[VIII.1. Consideration of an Ordinance to Amend the Town of Bluffton’s Comprehensive Plan (“Blueprint Bluffton”) to Incorporate a Housing Impact Analysis to Obtain Certain Accommodations Tax (ATAX) Funds for the Development of Workforce Housing - Public Hearing and Final Reading - Kevin Icard, Director of Growth Management]

TO AMEND TOWN OF BLUFFTON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CLUB BLUEPRINT BLUFFTON TO INCORPORATE A HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS TO OBTAIN CERTAIN ACCOMMODATIONS TAX FUNDS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF WORK NOW NEEDS A PUBLIC HEARING AND I DON'T READ AND MR. IF YOU COULD

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CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING CERTAINLY OF FIRST RATE FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS ON PUBLIC HEARING MAKE IT CALL FOR COMMENTS ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING THIRD CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. THANK MAYOR TAMER THERE'S NO CHANGES FROM FIRST READING I'M HAPPY TO TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IF NOT DO HAVE A MOTION FOR YOU TO COMMENT FROM QUESTIONS FOR CALVIN ANYONE CURRENTLY OKAY THERE I'LL MAKE A MOTION I NEED TO APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE THE HOUSING IMPACT ANALYSIS INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON PLAN TO SET SOME OF ALL OF THOSE

[IX.1. Consideration of an Ordinance to Amend the Town of Bluffton Code of Ordinances, Chapter 13 – Public Property, Article 2 – Public Park, Dock and Boat Landing Rules as it Relates to New Town Parks and Facilities; and Chapter 12 – Environmental, Article 3 – Noise Control - First Reading – Heather Colin – Assistant Town Manager]

ECONOMISTS THANK YOU THANK YOU FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER 13 DASH 13 PUBLIC PROPERTY ARTICLE TWO PUBLIC PART DOCK AND BOAT LANDING AS IT RELATES TO THE NEW NEW TOWN PARKS AND FACILITIES AND CHAPTER 12 ENVIRONMENTAL ARTICLE NOISE CONTROL THIS WILL BE FIRST READING HEATHER WE WERE CONSIDERING PENDING DOCTRINE ON THIS ISSUE CORRECT? YOU COULD IF WE COULD I BELIEVE YOU COULD THE MOTION TO APPROVE WOULD TO JUST MENTION THAT AND THEN YOU LOOK VIRTUAL AND YOU REMIND ME OKAY OKAY SO I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS ALL IN ONE ALL RELATED BUT THE FIRST ONE IS WELL IT IS TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE MUNICIPAL OF ORDINANCE AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF OUR NEW FACILITIES AT OUR PARKS NEW PARKS AND AS RELATED TO SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO THE NOISE ASSOCIATED WITH SOME OF PARKS AND FACILITIES AND TO I'M HERE BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN WE HAD VARIOUS DIFFERENT PROJECTS IDENTIFIED AND I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE NOW THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE EITHER UNDERWAY OR HAVE BEEN COMPLETED WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND CODIFY THOSE RULES THAT ADDRESS THOSE PARKS. THE FIRST ONE IS THE SPLASH PAD AT OSCAR FRAZIER PARK AND I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE OUR POOL PERMIT IN HAND TODAY SO WE ARE READY TO MOBILIZE ON MONDAY. IT IS LATER THAN THOUGHT BUT THERE ARE AS WE KNOW A LOT OF OUTSIDE AGENCY APPROVALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT TEND TO AFFECT YOUR TIME FRAME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO HAVE TO IS THE THE RULES FOR THAT IN THE OSCAR PARK THERE ARE THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE IDENTIFIED SUCH AS HOW THAT'S ORGANIZED. SO THE BASEBALL FIELDS, THE DOG PARK, THE ROTARIES ALL HAVE SEPARATE RULES. ONE OF THE SETS OF THE RULES THAT WE NEED TO ADOPT FOR THIS IS THE DIRECT THE RULES AS THEY ARE ASSOCIATED A POOL THEY DO CLASSIFY THIS AS A POOL.

SO THERE ARE STANDARD REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY DO THE STATE DOES REQUIRE US TO HAVE SO THOSE WILL ALL BE INCORPORATED IN SIGNAGE AND ACTUALLY DO HAVE CAST ACTUALLY APPROVE THE SIGN SO THERE IS A REFERENCE TO THAT THE OTHER ITEMS WE NEED TO ADDRESS ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION WHAT HAS PROPOSED INITIALLY FOR DISCUSSION IS 11 A.M. TO SUNSET. SUNSET IS WHAT WE USE FOR ALL OF OUR OTHER PARKS FOR A TYPICAL CLOSING TIME. HOWEVER WE COULD DESIGNATE AN ACTUAL TIME AND THEN ALSO THE OPERATING RIGHT NOW WE'VE STARTED WITH APRIL 1ST THROUGH NOVEMBER 1ST WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THE TOWN MANAGER ADJUST THAT DEPENDING ON WEATHER CONDITIONS.

SO IF IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSED FOR EXTREME WEATHER OR IF IT NEEDS TO BE OPEN FOR EXTREME WEATHER THAT COULD BE DONE AND THIS IS JUST THE ACTUAL TEXT OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO STOP AT EACH PARK, IF YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE THROUGH MY WHOLE PRESENTATION AND THEN GO BACK BUT I CAN DO EITHER. LET'S ADDRESS IT AS WE GO IF ANYONE HAS AN ISSUE I JUST HAVE A QUESTION I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS DO WITH THE SPLASH PARK WE HAVE IN TERMS OF HOURS OF OPERATION BECAUSE I THINK OF DURING THE SUMMER WHEN WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR CHILD CARE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS AND OTHERS WHO MIGHT WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE IT MIGHT BE ADVANTAGEOUS IF WE COULD SET THAT AT TEN AND MAYBE KIND OF YOU KNOW, GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY PEOPLE MAY MIGHT BE

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ABLE TO STAGGER THE TIME THAT THEY WOULD BRING THEIR FACILITY THERE.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYONE AT ONCE YOU KNOW, JUST A SUGGESTION OF WHAT TO LOOK INTO . AND I THINK THAT MORNING TIME TO SUNSET IS A TIME FOR GOOD REASON AND YOU SAY MOBILIZE ON MONDAY WHAT DID I MEAN SO I'M SORRY THE CONTRACTOR IS READY TO START WORK ON MONDAY SO BRING THEIR CREWS OUT THERE AND START ON MY AD WE'VE HAD ALL OF THE WELL NOT ALL BUT A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT AND PIECES THE SPLASH PAD HAVE BEEN DELIVERED AND WE WERE JUST WAITING OUR CONTRACTOR HAD TO WAIT. THEY GOT THAT PERMIT IN HAND FROM DEAC REGARDLESS THEY WERE READY TO THEY WERE TOLD THEY'D BE READY TO GO.

WE ACTUALLY GOT THE OFFICIAL WORD IN THE SIGNATURES TODAY SO YES THEY WILL ACTUALLY GET OUT THERE AND START YOU'LL START SEEING ACTUAL WORK BE DONE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL ONE WOMAN FRAZIER THAT I WOULD LOVE SEE IT OPEN EARLIER THAN 11 I THINK TEN I AGREE WITH ANDREW I THINK TEN IS A TIME TO GIVE FAMILIES WITH YOUNG KIDS TO GO GET SOME ENERGY OUT AS IS NINE OR TEN WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK WHENEVER THAT HAPPENS I WANT THEM TO BE THE FIRST TWO OF THEIR I MEAN I MEAN YOU START WITH THE TEN AND YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT IF YOU NEED. I'M FINE EITHER WAY AND I THE SUN SET PORTION OF IT ON ALL OF OUR PARKS THINK IS CRITICAL WE DON'T NEED TO MESS WITH THAT THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS SPLASH PAD PART RULES A SHOWER BEFORE USING ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A SHOWER AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO RINSE OFF IN BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE SPLASH PAD? GREAT QUESTION. THAT'S A STANDARD RULE. SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND SHOWER BEFORE YOU GO IN IN THE RULES BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A SHOWER THERE YOU KNOW A LOT OF PLACES HAVE SOMETHING YOU STEP IN TO RINSE OFF BEFORE YOU GET IN.

I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH SOME ASSUMPTIONS AND I WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE PLANS BUT SINCE D HECK HAS APPROVED OUR PLANS AND READY TO OPERATE. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE COVERED BUT I WILL DEFINITELY. IT'S A COVERED POOL A PUBLIC PROPOSAL RULES YES AND YET WOULD NOT HAVE US A PERMIT IF WE ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS.

BUT DOES THE REGULATION REQUIRE A WAY TO SHOWER? YOU KNOW LET ME LEAVE IT WITH THIS POOL BACK INTO IT. THEY HAVE LIKE 37 RULES. LET ME LEAVE IT WITH THIS.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A SHOWER THERE IT'S EASY TO PUT ONE THERE, RIGHT YVONNE? RIGHT. THIS JUST TO THAT I WOULD SAY LIKE I KNOW FIRSTHAND WHEN THEY PUT THAT SUGGESTION IN THERE IT'S MORE SO GIVEN LIKE A HYGIENE RECOMMENDATION JUST AS LIKE IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DIARRHEA OR WHATEVER LIKE THEY WOULD SAY STAY AWAY FROM THE POOL BECAUSE OF THAT BUT THEY DON'T REQUIRE TO HAVE A SHOWER THERE SO LIKE IF YOU GO TO SPLASH PAD THAT ARE STANDALONE AWAY FROM A AREA YOU'LL NOTE THAT YOU WON'T SEE ANY YOU KNOW, SHOWERS OR PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO RINSE ON IT'S A GRAPHIC EXAMPLE OKAY SO YOU WANT TO JUST MAKE NOTES ON THESE CHANGES AS WE GO AND THAT WAY WE CAN CHANGE THOSE SUGGESTIONS. NO SHOW IS CHANGING ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE DIRECT APPROVAL. THE ONLY THING BE WHETHER COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE 10:00 CHANGE WE HAD TWO THAT SUGGESTED IF THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL IS GOOD WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO MAKE A MOTION WE WOULD NEED TO REFLECT THAT IN THE MOTION TO ADJUST TO TEN FROM 11 TO 10 A.M. I WASN'T TOTALLY SORRY. NO I THOUGHT WE WERE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WELL SORRY BUT WE GOT PLENTY OF WATER THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE A SHOWER THEN WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE ONE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ENCLOSED SHOWER TO SHOWER AT ALL CLOTHES. IT JUST NEEDS TO GO INTO THE PLACE TO RINSE THE SHOWER COMPONENT WOULD NOT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION BUT I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON EXACTLY WHAT'S INCLUDED AND WHAT WE ADD . JUST THE ONLY THING FOR THE MOTION LIKE THE TOWN MANAGER REFERENCE WOULD THE CHANGE OF TIME SHOULD COUNCIL WANT TO ADJUST THAT FROM 11 TO RIGHT AND IT'S ALREADY IN HERE SO THAT YOU COULD MAKE OTHER CHANGES ON YOUR OWN RIGHT? SO THAT'S DUE TO LIKE WEATHER AND UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES.

I WOULD SAY THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO JUST CHANGE THE HOUR UNIFORMLY OR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR UNLESS THERE IS A CIRCUMSTANCE IF YOU WE WOULD NEED TO SET THAT OKAY WITH THE ORDINANCE QUESTION THE SPLASH PAD WHAT IS THE DEPTH OF THE STAIRS BUT HOW MANY INCHES

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OF WATER OR FEET OF WATER WOULD HOLD IS ZERO ZERO. IT CLASSIFIES IT AS A POOL BECAUSE OF HOW THE WATER RECIRCULATED I BELIEVE. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT THEN LET IT GO GO. I WOULD SAY ARLINGTON WHICH CHANGE RIGHT NOW IS 10:00 INSTEAD OF 11. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

SO ANOTHER PARK THAT UNDERGONE SOME CHANGES AND WAS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT HAS RECENTLY BEEN COMPLETED IS THE CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF OYSTER FACTORY PART MASTER PLAN. SO THIS IS JUST A RENDERING DON'T HAVE A PICTURE BUT IT DOES INCLUDE DECKING A LITTLE MUSIC AREA, SOME MORE FORMALIZED SPACES FOR FOOD TRUCKS AND THINGS OF THAT AS WE HEARD THROUGH SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS WILL BE USED MORE JUST WE MAKE MORE IMPROVEMENTS AND JUST PROVIDE THOSE AREAS THOSE DESIGNATED. ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS RELATED TO THAT PART WOULD BE TO CHANGE THE HOURS FROM 12 P.M. TO 6 P.M. ON SUNDAYS.

SO IS ONE ONE OPTION THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED BEFORE YOU MOVE ON THEY HAVE THEIR I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ON THAT IN ADDITION TO YOU KNOW THE COMMENTS THAT WERE TONIGHT I THINK JUST DOING A TEMPORARY FIX THAT WE'RE MORE SO REACTIONARY HERE IN SWITCHING THE HOURS FROM FROM WHAT THEY CURRENTLY ARE TO ENDING AT SIX ON SUNDAYS I THINK IT THIS IS A DISCUSSION IT SHOULD BE WORKSHOPPED WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT WHAT IT IS AND IS IT WORKING THAT IS THOSE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA ARE HAVING COMPLAINTS BUT ALSO ENSURING THAT WE ARE ALSO BEING CONSIDERATE OF CITIZENS WHO WANT TO UTILIZE THAT PUBLIC SPACE AS WELL. SO I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD WORK OUT IN A WORKSHOP LIKE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE DECIBEL LEVEL IS NOT BEING ADHERED TO YOU KNOW WHO IS THE PERSON THAT SHOULD BE OUT ENFORCING THAT AND LET ANY EVENT HOST KNOW THAT IF THEY'RE NOT COMPLIANT THEN MAYBE THE EVENT NEEDS TO END.

SO I KNOW I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT ON WITH THE HOURS SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP TO REALLY FLESH IT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS CONVERSATION, MARSHA, IF YOU'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT WHY JUST LIKE SO MANY AND I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY AN ATTORNEY THAT I SHOULD SO I AM WELL, I'LL SPEAK UP. I KNOW THAT AGAIN IT WAS MADE CLEAR TONIGHT THAT WE WILL THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND I THINK THIS IS JUST TO GIVE SOME ON SUNDAY EVENINGS WHICH WE DID HEAR PEOPLE SPEAK TO ALL OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE WILL BE REVISITED IT AND I HOPE IN GREAT DETAIL I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T A LOT OF LITTLE DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS IN THAT IT WAS VERY CONTROVERSIAL TEN YEARS AGO A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO IT AND I THINK A LOT OF WORK IS NEEDED TO GO INTO IT AGAIN ADDRESSING KINDS OF ISSUES LIKE STARTING WITH THE BAN LOCATION YOU KNOW WHAT CAN THEY DO TO CONTROL THE SOUND THAT THEY PROJECT OUT LOTS OF THINGS THEY PLAY INTO THAT AND SO YOU KNOW I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LOWERING THE SUN THE EVENING HOURS AS A SHORT TERM SIGN OF RELIEF TILL WE GET TO THE BIGGER THING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE WHEN WE DO THAT WORKSHOP YOU THINK SATURDAY OR SUNDAY HOURS THEN THIS IS A SPECIFICALLY SAYING SUNDAY HERE BUT EVEN AT SPEAKING THE IN THE INSTANCE TO BE REACTION HERE WE WOULD CONTRADICT OURSELVES AS HISTORICALLY THE INDEPENDENCE CELEBRATION MAY HAVE TAKEN PLACE ON A SUNDAY AS IT DID ITS PATHS AND THE EVENT WAS NOT WELL UNDERWAY BY 6:00 WE DIDN'T START THE SHOW PROBABLY TILL LIKE 930 BUT YOU HAD MUSIC IN CERTAIN PARKS SO I'M SAYING MY I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT US AND EVEN TIE US INTO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT ADHERING TO WORKED OUT WORKSHOPPING IN FALLS UNDER SPECIAL PERMIT WHICH EXEMPTS IT RIGHT IF I COULD WHEN WE DID NOT WORKSHOP THIS CERTAINLY WE CAN EXCUSE ME I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO READINGS. WE CERTAINLY CAN MAKE CHANGES OR.

HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MOTIONS BUT I WILL ADD TO THEIRS AS I GET INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH SOME OF OTHER CHANGES. THE NOISE ORDINANCE DOES GET

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VERY COMPLICATED AS AS HOW IT RELATES TO SPECIAL EVENTS AND WHAT IS CONSIDERED A SPECIAL EXEMPT SPECIAL EXCUSE ME SPECIAL EVENT THAT IS EXEMPT FROM THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

WHAT EXEMPT AND THEN WHAT IS CONSIDERED DISTURBANCE. SO THERE THERE IS A LOT TO IT I DO KNOW FIREWORKS SPECIFICALLY AS YOU ASKED IS A IS EXEMPT FROM THE NOISE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS . THERE'S ALSO OTHER CELEBRATIONS THAT ARE MENTIONED SO THERE'S WHOLE LIST I THINK IT GOES UP TO LETTER G THINGS THAT ARE EXEMPT BUT IT DOES GET COMPLICATED AS FAR AS WHAT'S FOUND BY THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND WHAT IS NOT AND WHERE IT IS AND WHAT IT IS. WELL, LARRY HAD THE BIG RECUSED HIMSELF BUT BEING THAT HE IS IN THE FACILITY IN THE VICINITY MORE FREQUENT THAN THAN I AM I WANTED TO GET SOME OF HIS OPINION ABOUT HOW OFTEN WE HAVE THIS ISSUE THIS TEN YEARS AGO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINT NOISE UNTIL ONE EVENT I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN MAYBE OTHERS MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN CAUSE THERE WAS ONE EVENT THAT GOT EXTREMELY LOUD AND I WITNESSED THAT EVENT MYSELF. IT WAS VERY LOUD BUT MY QUESTION IS HOW DID WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAFF AND THE MONITOR THAT TO TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS WHILE IT WAS TAKING PLACE? DO WE DO ANYTHING IF WE SEND ANYBODY DID DO WE HAVE A NOISE.

MM THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF DID WE HAVE SOMEONE TO COME AND TOUCH DECIBEL LEVEL.

YES SIR JUST A KIND OF UNIQUE CONTEXT SINCE JANUARY WE'VE 157 NOISE COMPLAINTS.

OF THOSE 72 WERE BETWEEN 10 TO 12 M TO 10 P.M. TO 12 A.M. TYPICALLY WE HAVE NOT GONE BACK TO THE SAME PERSON AFTER OUR OFFICERS GO OUT THERE, GIVE THEM A WARNING TO TURN IT DOWN THEY TURNED IT DOWN. WE HAVE ISSUED FOUR NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS ARE THOSE 257 BECAUSE THOSE ARE REPEAT OFFENSES AND OF THOSE WERE THOSE EVENT RELATED OR WERE THOSE LIKE RESIDENTIAL? THOSE THOSE WERE RESIDENTIAL. THE FOUR THAT WE ISSUED YOU NOTED THE VIOLATIONS NONE OF THEM WERE REPEAT BOTH OF THOSE ISSUES AFTER WE WENT OUT TO WARN THEM ARE WE ABLE TO GET A BREAKDOWN MAYBE IN THE FEED KNOW HAVING THEM TO SEPARATE WHEN THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE FROM ACTUAL EVENTS AND NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING LIKE HEY MY NEIGHBORS MARTY STROUD IS SOMEBODY HERE HEAR THAT AND THINK LIKE 107 ALL FROM EVENTS IN PARKS THAT'S EXCESSIVE IT'S COUNCILMAN IT'S HARD TO DO THAT BUT I CAN TELL SAY WHAT WE CREATED WHICH IS BASICALLY ALL OF THE NOISE COMPLAINTS FROM JANUARY TO NOW THE LOCATIONS OF THEM AND NUMBER OF TIMES WE'VE GOT TO THOSE LOCATIONS SPECIFICALLY TO NARROW IT DOWN FROM A SPECIAL EVENT TO AN EVENT AT A RESIDENCE WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE DATE TIME IT OCCURRED AND SEE IF THERE WAS A SPECIAL EVENT.

SO THAT WOULD BE VERY TO DO BUT I CAN AT LEAST GIVE YOU THE LOCATIONS OF EVERYTHING.

WE ALSO BROKE DOWN BY FREQUENCY OF EVERY DAY AND EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY TO SEE IF THERE'S A PATTERN. AND THE PATTERN SHOWS THAT TYPICALLY ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS THE MOST FREQUENT ARE SATURDAY IS THE SUNDAY BETWEEN TEN AND 12 A.M.

ON SUNDAY WE'VE HAD 72 JUST BETWEEN THOSE THREE THOSE TWO DAYS AND THOSE HOURS.

OKAY THAT WITHIN ITSELF IS IS WAY PAST WHAT WE CALL TIME DOES ALLOW MUSIC OR AMPLIFIED MUSIC TO BE ALLOWED. SO HOW MANY OF THOSE GOT A CITATION? SO VERY FOUR OF THEM WERE AT 10:00 OR LESS. 20 WERE AT 11 AND 18 WERE AT MIDNIGHT AS FAR AS CITATIONS NO. THEN WE WENT OUT THERE PROBABLY TO TURN IT OFF. IT WAS AFTER THE HOURS THEY EITHER COMPLIED AND I DON'T KNOW REPEAT OFFENSES HOW THEY TURNED IT OFF. WE LEFT THEN WE CAME BACK AND HE RECORD BACK ON THAT WE WOULD GET A VIOLATION OR A CITATION I'M SORRY.

SO AS WELL ALSO HAD ADD THAT THE POLICE CHIEF ALSO DOES HAVE THAT BY NEIGHBORHOOD OR AREA VICINITY SO WE DO HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY AND WE KNOW WHERE WE ISSUE OUR SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS FOR SO WE CAN AT MY MY AND THEN YOU KNOW FINISH IT BUT I REALLY THINK BEFORE WE

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MAKE ANY MAJOR DECISION ANY DECISION AT ALL WE SHOULD WORKSHOP IT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH THERE'S SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T KNOW AND AND FOR AN EXAMPLE IF I DIDN'T NEXT CHIEF THAT BREAKDOWN WE WOULD THINK THAT 157 THOSE EVENT WAS SPECIAL EVENTS, YOU KNOW, SO WE WE KNOW COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES YOU GOT TO MAKE MAKE SURE IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION WE MAKE A DECISION THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

I A FEW COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS IT'S OBVIOUS AND I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND NEED TO WORKSHOP THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OUTDATED. I'D LOVE TO TALK WITH A SOUND EXPERT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE NOISE CONTROL HAS COME A LONG WAY IN THE PAST TEN YEARS BUT TO ADDRESS TONIGHT AND THE CHANGES STRICTLY THE PARK RULES AT THE OYSTER FACTORY NOT THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND TO JUST TO CONFIRMED IF YOU HAVE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT AT THE OYSTER FACTORY YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT TABLE THAT TALKS ABOUT DECIBEL 50 DECIBELS AT 250 FEET. YES.

CONCERNING THE DECIBELS. YES. IT WOULD NOT MATTER IF SOMEONE HAD A SPECIAL EVENT IF THEY WERE THE DECIBEL READING BECAUSE IT IS COMPLETELY EXEMPT FROM IT. CORRECT. THE DECIBELS THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT IS THERE IS A SECTION AND I DON'T HAVE THE FULL ORDINANCE PULLED UP HERE THAT DOES TALK ABOUT IT'S GENERAL NOISE DISTURBANCE AND THEN IF IF WE CHANGED OR THE PARK RULES THAT WAS YOUR FACTORY COULD WE EXEMPT TOWN PUT ON EVENTS LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF IT'S A TOWN EVENT THAT'S PUT ON YES THERE ARE CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS FOR WHETHER IT'S I THINK IT'S EVEN THE FUNERAL PROCESSIONS ARE AN EXCEPTION OR YES FIREWORKS ARE AN EXCEPTION. SO IT'S JUST MATTER OF HOW WE WOULD DRAFT THOSE EXCEPTIONS AND MAKE SURE WE'RE LEGALLY SOUND AFTER CONFERRING WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY.

BUT YES, WE COULD DO THAT AND I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT OPENING UP THIS NOISE ORDINANCE IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME IT CLEARLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BUT WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE NOW TO HELP ALL THESE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE A LOT OF THEM HAVE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS. THIS OYSTER BATTERY PARK IS ISN'T A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND IT TRULY DOES AFFECT EVERYONE AROUND THERE. I AM FINE WITH ENDING AT 6:00 ON SUNDAYS. I WOULD LOVE TO PROPOSE THAT LIVE ENTERTAINMENT END AT 9:00 ON MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY INSTEAD OF TEN AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE US LIMIT THE TIME THAT AMPLIFIED MUSIC BE PLAYED TO 4 HOURS WHICH AFTER RESEARCHING THIS BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF OUR EVENTS DO NOT HAVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC MORE THAN 4 HOURS.

THIS SPECIFIC EVENT DID AND I JUST LIKE TO GET IN FRONT OF IT SO THAT WE PREVENT FUTURE FROM HAVING THAT. SO THOSE WOULD BE THE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS APPROVED AND THEN TO OPEN UP THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND REALLY DOVE INTO AND WORKSHOP THAT AND SO LET ME ASK SO YOU MADE MENTION OF ONE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AND AT 9PMI SUGGESTED US MOVE IT UP ONE HOUR TO NINE INSTEAD OF TEN . AND THEN WHAT WAS YOUR SECOND REQUEST THAT WE LIMIT AMPLIFY MUSIC TO 4 HOURS RIGHT NOW SOMEONE COULD GO OUT THERE FROM 12 TO 10 IF THEY WANTED PAY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS IF THEY WERE ONLY OUT THERE FOR 3 HOURS AND PLAY MUSIC ALL DAY GOING TO THE TIME ON SUNDAYS ENDING AT SIX I THINK THERE IS SOMEONE TO MAKE A DECISION BEFORE WE GET TO A WORKSHOP. I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME VARIANCES OR CONSIDERATIONS GIVEN THE TIME OF THE YEAR IN TERMS OF WHEN THAT'S GOING TO WORK AND WHEN IT'S NOT. FOR INSTANCE WE ARE EXPERIENCING HEAT RIGHT NOW AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE DELAYING THEIR EVENTS TO MAYBE NOT START UNTIL AFTERNOON TIME LET'S SAY OF FOUR OR FIVE IF THEY'RE HAVING AN EVENT WHETHER IT'S A WEDDING OR A FAMILY REUNION ON A SUNDAY AND WANT TO UTILIZE THAT PART STARTING AT OR ENDING AT 6:00 WOULD WOULD SHOW A LOT

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OF PEOPLE OUT WHO WOULD WANT TO ACCESS THAT AND WE DON'T WANT WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT IN THOSE CONDITIONS. SO I THINK BEING CONSIDERATE OF SOME EXCLUDING OTHERS LIKE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A BALANCE HERE TO WHERE WE'RE GIVING EVERYONE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE PARKS ARE FOR PUBLIC USE WHILE ALSO TRYING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF COMPROMISE FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THAT. AND SO LIKE I SAID I KNOW ME PERSONALLY I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO COME TO THAT WITHOUT HAVING SOME TYPE WORKSHOP TO REALLY BE ABLE TO FLUSH THAT THROUGH BECAUSE. IT SEEMS AS THIS ONE EVENT HAS REALLY IGNITED MANY BECAUSE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED THERE AND DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO BE LOOKED INTO BUT. I THINK SIX IS JUST TOO EARLY ON A SUNDAY AT THAT PARTICULAR PARK KNOWING THAT IT IS UTILIZED HEAVILY FOR THAT REASON.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS THAT THE 6:00 IS JUST FOR LIVE MUSIC OR AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND SO EVENT AM I CORRECT CAN GO LATER THAN THAT IS JUST THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC HAS TO END AT SIX NOT RIGHT AWAY THIS IS NOT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW IT'S OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AND OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT SO THAT SO THE EVENT CAN GO AFTER SIX IT'S JUST THE MUSIC HAS TO STOP AT SIX CORRECT WHICH AS IT'S WRITTEN NOW WE CHANGE THAT WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ACOUSTIC MUSIC TOO RIGHT SAYING THERE'S NO ENTERTAINMENT AFTER SAFE BASED ON HOW THIS IS WRITTEN BASED ON HOW IT'S READY BECAUSE I'M SAYING LIKE THAT WOULD THEY SEE THAT POINT COUNCILMEMBER ADDED IF IF YOU KNOW FOLKS ARE ABLE TO KNOW LIKE YES YOUR EVENT CAN STILL GO ON BUT MAYBE WE DO SEE ANY EVENT HAPPENING ON A SUNDAY AFTER SIX YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC. IT HAS TO BE ACOUSTIC MUSIC ONLY OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT NOW THAT WOULD I COULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT YOU KNOW IF THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME SOME TYPE OF RELIEF THERE IF WE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS IT SAYS OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AND OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT SO ANY KIND OF GATHERING WILL BE IT COULD BE CONSIDERED WHICH MY SUGGESTION WOULD PUT SOME SPECIFICS IN THERE TO NOT LET IT BE AS AMBIGUOUS AS IT IS NOW BECAUSE THAT MIGHT CREATE MORE PROBLEMS WITH SOMEONE WHO COULD GET CREATIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY DEFINE ENTERTAINMENT MAYBE PUT THOSE PARAMETERS IN SIMILAR TO WHAT COMMERCIAL SPACES HAVE AND NO ONE LIKE YOU CANNOT AMPLIFIED MUSIC IN CERTAIN PLACES AND I WILL CUE THIS IS G ON THE LIST OF EXCEPTIONS FOR THE NOISE SO THAT KIND OF GIVES IT SOME CONTEXT.

SO THIS IS DURING THIS WOULD BE THE HOURS THAT THEY COULD EXCEED THAT TABLE THAT COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN BURTON MENTIONED SO AGAIN THIS IS JUST A SNIPPET OF THAT.

SO THAT IS SO AFTER THAT POINT IF IT WERE TO CHANGE TO NINE OR SIX WHATEVER THAT IS, THEN IF THE POLICE WERE CALLED FOR A NOISE ORDINANCE VIOLATION, IF IT EXCEEDED AND AFTER THAT TIME THEY WOULD COULD POTENTIALLY GET A TICKET OR A PENALTY BUT BEFORE THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT BECAUSE THEY WERE UNDER SPECIAL . WELL, LET ME ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE ALSO IS MAKING MULTIPLE ALMOST LIKE MULTIPLE MOTIONS UM IT SEEMS YOU AS THE TOWN MANAGER HAVE PURVIEW OVER THE SPECIAL EVENTS RIGHT YOU GET TO DECIDE YES OR NO THAT PRETTY MUCH THE WAY IT BOILS DOWN OR YOU HAVE TO GO BY THE BOOK I HAVE TO GET CERTAIN EXEMPTIONS THAT I REALLY LIKE IT'S AN WHERE WE HAD ISSUES WITH THEM IN THE PAST OR IF THEY DON'T TURN IN WHAT THEY NEED TO DO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT NOT APPROVING ALL IN THE FUTURE YEARS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE'LL GET TO LATER IS TO STRENGTHEN THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO IF WE DO ISSUES WITH ONE IN A PREVIOUS YEAR THAT I CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE FUTURE TO SAY SAY YOU KNOW YOU MAY OUTGROWN THIS VENUE WE HAVE OTHER VENUES AVAILABLE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 500 PEOPLE OR BACK AND PART MAY BE TOO SMALL ABOUT OH WE GOT YOU OVER THERE THAT'S GOOD FOR THAT AND I THINK IT WILL GIVE A LITTLE MORE A LITTLE MORE STRENGTH IN BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. LET ME ASK THE QUESTION, COUNCILOR, BECAUSE THE DEFINITION OF WELL, WE'RE GOING HAVE TO LET IT GET THROUGH ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT ELSE IS COMING .

MY GOAL WAS ORIGINALLY JUST TO LIMIT HOURS ON SUNDAY ART ROOM JUST TO LIMIT THE HOURS NOW

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WE'VE GONE FROM SUNDAY WITH A REQUEST MONDAY SATURDAY AND THE HOURS AND THEN WE'VE GONE TO ANOTHER REQUEST TO LIMIT AMPLIFIED MUSIC FOR 4 HOURS. I'M WONDERING AFTER SHE FINISHES THIS IF WE CAN MAYBE PUT EACH OF THOSE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION THIS EVENING PASS OR FAIL. UM LET ME READ WHAT I HAVE SO FAR IF I COULD I MOVE TO APPROVE THE NEW PARK RULES AS PROPOSED BY STAFF WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES A AT THE OSCAR FRAZIER SPLASH PAD THE OPENING TIME IS 10 A.M. B AT THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK THE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AND OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT MUST END BY 9 P.M. ON MONDAYS THROUGH SATURDAYS. AMPLIFIED MUSIC IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 4 HOURS NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC ON AFTER 6 P.M.. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD DISCUSSED SO FAR AND I'M TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THEM SO WE DO GET TO A POINT WHERE THERE'S A MOTION I'LL BE ABLE TO HAND IT TO SOMEBODY AND MAYOR, IF I COULD TO FOLLOW UP TERRY THE KEY TO REMEMBER IS THIS IS FIRST READING. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL SAY WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS BUT WE WON'T TAKE THAT TO GO BACK BETWEEN FIRST READING AND SECOND READING AND RESEARCH AND BRING US BACK X OR Y OPTIONS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND THERE'LL BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING NEXT MONTH. YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY IF YOU WANT TO JUST APPROVE A PORTION OF WHAT SHE MAY BE WILLING TO PASS AND I TABLE IT TILL NEXT MONTH AND SAY HEY WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS. CAN YOU US BACK SOME OPTIONS? SO THERE YOU HAVE A PLETHORA OF OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE DIRECTION MOVING FORWARD BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OR BEFORE WE DO ACTUAL FIRST READING. YES SIR.

SORRY ENDING. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS SCHEDULED FOR THE PARK BEFORE NEXT MONTH ? WE'VE GOT THE SUNSET PARTY COMING UP NEXT WEEK.

WE HAVE WE HAVE MULTIPLE EVENTS COMING UP. YES WHICH IF WE MADE ANY CHANGES THEY WOULD NOT APPLY TO THE CURRENT CONTRACTS YOU HAVE THEY IF WE DO IT PENDING DOCTRINE IT WOULD TAKE EFFECT AS A FIRST READING. WELL THAT'S THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING IS THE CLARITY NO MUSIC AFTER 6 P.M. ON SUNDAY SCHOOL WOULD STILL NOT APPLY TO SPECIAL EVENTS. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? YES, THAT AGAIN THE REQUEST IS MADE NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC AFTER PM ON SUNDAY IF THAT'S A REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN BURDEN I THOUGHT IT DOES APPLY TO SPECIAL EVENTS BECAUSE THAT'S A RULE FOR THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK. GO BACK HERE.

SORRY. SO WHAT IT IS FOR THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK IS UNDER NOISE FOR AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE SPECIAL EVENT THIS THIS IS THE LANGUAGE FROM THE SPECIAL EVENT SO IF THE FOR EXAMPLE LIKE IF IT'S 3:00 THEY GO OUT THERE THAT'S EXEMPT BECAUSE THE SPECIAL EVENT THEY'RE EXEMPT THEY GO OUT THERE AT 605 THEN THERE WOULD BE A TICKET AND IF IT'S NOT WRITTEN EXACTLY LIKE THAT THAT WAS THE INTENT SO WE WOULD MAKE CERTAIN THAT WAY AND GO BACK THAT THAT'S YOU'RE EVEN IF IT IS A SPECIAL EVEN IF IT IS A SPECIAL EVENT SO THAT THE INTENT WHEN WE WROTE IT SO LIKE I SAID WE CAN CERTAINLY GO AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S COVERED BECAUSE LIKE I SAID IT GETS COMPLICATED.

YOU HAVE PARK RULES, YOU HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS AND THEN YOU HAVE THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND.

SO WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING YOU KNOW NOTHING CONTRADICTED EACH OTHER BUT THAT WAS THE INTENT FOR THE TIME AND THAT'S WHY I WAS GETTING AT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING OF THAT'S THE INTENT OF COUNCIL. WE CAN GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS CORRECTED BETWEEN TONIGHT AND NEXT MONTH TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE WHAT THE INTENT IS. AND I'VE ADDED THAT TO THE DRAFT MOTION THAT I HAVE YOUR COUNCILMAN AND THERE ARE SOME LIKE SAID THAT IT DOES GET THE END BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF LAYERS OF OF COMPLICATIONS HERE. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE EXEMPT REGARDLESS OF THE TIME AND THAT WOULD BE FIREWORKS THERE'S A LIST THAT GOES BEFORE HERE YOU HAVE ALL SORTS OF ALL SORTS OF THINGS WHETHER IT'S LET'S SEE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA STREET FAIRS BY THE TOWN VIDEO PRODUCTIONS LAWFUL FIREWORKS MACHINERY, MILITARY CEREMONIES. SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT REGARDLESS OF TIME ARE ALWAYS EXEMPT. BUT FOR A SPECIAL A STANDARD SPECIAL EVENT FOR EXAMPLE A WEDDING, A GRADUATION, A BIRTHDAY PARTY THAT'S SORT OF BY THE TIMES I WONDER IF

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IT'S AT INTEREST OF COUNCIL TO TABLE THIS BECAUSE. WE'RE ASKING MORE AND MORE QUESTIONS WE'RE PUTTING WE'VE GONE FROM JUST LOWERING THE HOURS ON SUNDAY TO TRYING TO QUALIFY A WEEK LONG OF MUSIC AND AMPLIFICATION AND HOURS IT CAN BE PLAYED IT SEEMS TO ME WE'RE GETTING IN THE WEEDS WHICH IS WHAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS.

I TOTALLY ABSOLUTELY THAT WAS MUCH WAS MY SUGGESTION EARLY ON ONLY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND DEFINITELY THE FRUSTRATIONS OF THOSE WHO LIVE IT AND BEING THERE AND HAVING THAT IT DOES BECOME A NUISANCE. I STILL ADVISE THAT IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO REALLY GET A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN AND WORKSHOP IT. NO ONE THAT WE SAID IT IS OUTDATED AND RUSHING TO DO THINGS NOW WE'RE MISSING SOMETHING OR WOULD OVERLOOK THAT MAY STILL BE A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVE. I THINK TO REALLY BE ABLE TO GIVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO WORK OUT THE WAY THAT WE WANT IT AND CREATE THE BEST THING FORWARD. WE DON'T HAVE TO ADJUST AGAIN. WE NEED TO TABLE IT.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THIS NOISE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT AND OUTDOOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT IS DEFINED IN CHAPTER 12 ENVIRONMENT ARTICLE THREE ARE PROHIBITED TO WASTE YOUR FACTORY PARK EXCEPT THE HOURS OF 12 AND 10 P.M. ON MONDAYS THROUGH SATURDAYS AND BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 12 P.M. AND SIX EXCLUDING THE SPLASH PAD AND I EXCLUDE THE SPLASH PAD. I HAVE ANOTHER SET OF RULES TOO FOR ANOTHER WE'RE JUST ADDRESS THIS ONE RIGHT THIS MINUTE AND WE DO THAT AS YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU CAN YOUR MOTION IS TO TABLE THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK CHANGES THANK YOU THE MOTIONS MADE CAN ALL IN FAVOR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION YOU MAY ASK THAT QUESTION IT I GET IT FIRST IN A SECOND YES OKAY IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION HEARING THEN MOTION CARRIES OR HOLD ON SORRY I'M SORRY YOU DIDN'T GET A MOTION YOU THOUGHT YOU WAS MAKING THE MOST I'VE TRIED TO READ IT BASICALLY.

WHAT? I READ THE WHOLE THING. DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION? YES, THE EMOTION TO OYSTER FACTORY OR YOU GOT COVERED ? I TABLE THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK RULE CHANGES THE MOTION WAS TO TABLE THE OYSTER FACTORY PARK RULE CHANGES YES CORRECT RIGHT . WE ALSO HAD RIVERSIDE VILLAGE PARK RULES SAY THAT WE WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE SPLASH PAD THE WHATEVER YOU COMING UP IN JUST A MOMENT THEY'RE GOING TO TABLE JUST THIS PORTION EXCUSE ME. YEAH, I WAS LOOKING FOR THE PERSON. YOU'RE RIGHT THANK YOU. SO WE GOT A FIRST OF A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY I THANK YOU FOR THE RESTAURANT IS BACK WE HAVE A NEW IT WAS TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING TOGETHER IN ONE BUT I THINK IT MADE IT MORE CONFUSING SO MY APOLOGIES I'M SORRY I'M WITH YOU ONLY I'M SORRY I DIDN'T ACTUALLY SAY I SAID NAY ON THAT LARRY SAID QUOTE LARRY THE GAVEL BACK YES I'M BACK. SO DID YOUR VOTE.

I DIDN'T HEAR Y'ALL VOTE. IT IS YES. 3 TO 1.

YOU BET YOU YOU SURE YOU KNOW HOW DO YOU BACK? ALL RIGHT.

HERE'S ANOTHER PARK. OKAY. SO WE HAD THE SPLASH PAD OYSTER CATCHER PARK. WE'RE GOING TO HOLD AND THEN NOW NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE PARK.

SO THIS ONE IS YOU KNOW IS ANOTHER PARK THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED THERE AT MAE RIVER ROAD, A NEW RIVERSIDE AND NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD THAT'S PART PART OF THAT THAT WAS APPROVED THAT WE REFERRED TO AS NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE. THERE WAS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHEN THERE WAS A SWAP OF A LITTLE BIT OF THAT THE DEVELOPER CONSTRUCTED A TOWN PARK FOR THE PUBLIC WITH THAT IT WAS ALSO REQUIRED THAT THE POND BE STOCKED WITH FISH SO PEOPLE COULD USE THAT THERE'S A FISHING AND THERE'S ALSO A FISHING PLATFORM.

SO THE NEXT STEP IS WE ARE GETTING READY TO SIGN IT SO WE NEED SOME RULES THAT WE CAN REFERENCE AND THE GENERAL RULES WILL REFLECT THE STATE RULES AS FAR AS DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES CONCERNING ALLIGATORS AND THE LANGUAGE THEY REQUIRE TO SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW TO STAY AWAY FROM ALLIGATORS AND THEN THE FISHING IN THE CATCH AND RELEASE.

WE ALSO MADE REFERENCE THAT THERE IS NO RECREATIONAL SWIMMING IN THESE PONDS.

THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR THAT JUST WITH THE ALLIGATORS AND THE FISH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION AND THEN NO WATERCRAFT KAYAKS OR BOATS WITH

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THE EXCEPTION OF MAINTENANCE AND THIS IS WHAT THAT LANGUAGE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

I HAVE A QUESTION YES SIR SO ENTERTAIN THAT IF YOU FISH A MANMADE POND THAT YOU NEED A FISHING PERMIT. IT'S NOT YES. AND YOU STILL NEED THAT.

YES. BUT IT COULD BE WRONG. I LOOKED ONLINE TO SEE IF IT'S A MANMADE BODY OF WATER LIKE A POND IN SOUTH CAROLINA IF YOU NEED A FISHING PERMIT I'M NOT CLEAR THAT'S A FISHING LICENSE I SHOULD SAY FROM FROM WHAT WE'VE HAD PERMITTED AND PROVED THAT THEY'VE SAID WE DO BUT I DON'T WE NEED TO FIND OUT TOO BECAUSE THIS IS A CATCH AND RELEASE. YOU'RE NOT IN A FISH BUT SO YOU NEED A LICENSE IF YOU KNOW I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S NOT AN EXEMPTION FOR CATCH AND RELEASE ON PRIVATE OR I KNOW WE CAN TRIPLE CHECK I DID TALK TO DID WORK WITH RICHARDSON BRUCE THE OTHER TOWN ATTORNEY ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CORRECT LANGUAGE BUT I WILL I WILL CERTAINLY DOUBLE CHECK IF I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT I MEAN I DON'T KNOW BUT WHY WOULD WHY WOULD YOU BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LICENSE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP THE FISH THAT MAKE SENSE TO ME EITHER BECAUSE THE REASON YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING ON A RESOURCE THAT'S OWNED BY THE STATE OR YOU'RE NOT TAKING ANYTHING I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S NEEDS TO BE CHECKED WITH DNR. WELL LIKE I SAID IS FRUSTRATING SO SHOULD WE FIND OUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? I CAN CERTAINLY REVISE THAT AT SECOND READING OR YOU COULD CHOOSE TO TABLE THIS PART AS WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO FISH ALREADY IT'S IT'S OPEN READY TO GO WE'RE JUST WAITING TO DRAFT THE SIGNAGE AND BEFORE WE DO THE SIGNAGE WE HAVE TO REFERENCE THE THE APPROPRIATE CODE NUMBERS SO YES IT IS OPERATIONAL RIGHT NOW. YEAH.

THE FIRST IS WHEN YOU DO THE FIRST READING CHANGE IT IF NEED OKAY SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION WHETHER I'M ON THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT CLARITY IS BEING REQUESTED OF .

DO WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE POND IN QUESTION NOW IS A LICENSED POND BY THE DNR I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE DNR RELATIONSHIP IS WITH THOSE PONDS BUT THE REASON I ASK I THINK SOMETIMES THAT'S WHEN THE I KNOW THE PERMITTING OR THE LICENSE DEFINITELY BECOMES A REQUIREMENT IF IT ONE THAT IS MY MIKE SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THAT MY MY QUICK RESEARCH SIMILARLY INDICATES THAT A FRESHWATER FISHING LICENSE REQUIRED UNLESS YOU ARE FISHING IN A PRIVATELY OWNED POND OTHER THAN THAT THAT MAKES IT AS CLEAR AS MUD.

BUT AT LEAST ONE OF THE WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE IT OUT IF. WE DON'T HAVE TO WE CAN ALWAYS GET A SECONDARY SECONDARY SO SO I WILL GET THE ANSWERS THAT I WILL GET THE ANSWERS TO THAT SO THREE WAY WAY IF YOU LIKE TO APPROVE IS SOUNDS LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE SPLASH PAD RULES AND HAD A MOTION FOR THAT SO IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH FIRST READING ON THIS THIS PROPOSED LANGUAGE THEN WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE NEW RIVERSIDE PARK ROAD MORE QUESTIONS THERE HAS NO FORMAL MOTION ON THE SPLASH PAD YET. THAT WAS JUST I JUST READ IT. OKAY MY APOLOGIES.

THERE'S LOTS MORE HERE. SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS? WOULD THE RIVERSIDE IN RIVERSIDE PARK RULES MAKE THAT MOTION THEIR SECOND SEEKING DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR SAY I AND AND IF WANTED TO CHANGE THE SPLASH PAD RULE OPEN IT AN HOUR EARLY 10 A.M. INSTEAD OF 11 YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE PROPOSAL THAT PROPOSED RULE WITH THAT AMENDMENT IS THE QUESTION TWO YES WE DON'T HAVE ANY RULES FOR RIGHT NOW DO DO NOT SO WHY WE HAVE THE MOTION TO CHANGE YOU DON'T HAVE I MEAN ALL WE NEED TO DO IS SAY GIVE THEM THE HOURS. THE WAY I HAD DRAFTED IT I WENT

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ACCORDING TO STAFF RECOMMENDATION WE AMEND IT BUT YOU ARE ENTIRELY CORRECT THERE ARE NO RULES PLACE CURRENTLY SO IT WOULD BE NEW RULES. OKAY SO NOW WE NEED SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPLASH PAD RULES WITH A 10 A.M. OPENING I MAKE THAT MOTION BACK SECOND TABLE ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR SAY I I SO THAT'S WE'RE DONE WITH THE WELL DOUBLE YES. OKAY OKAY OKAY OKAY. UP NEXT CONSIDERATION TO

[IX.2. Consideration to Approve the Memorandum of Understanding between the Town of Bluffton and CommunityWorks to Initiate the Town of Bluffton Employee Homebuying Program – Stephen Steese, Town Manager]

APPROVE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND COMMUNITY WORKS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE HOME BUYING PROGRAM SEE MY VERY COUNSELOR WANT TO TALK ABOUT EMPLOYEES BENEFITS FORM HERE AND SOME RULES AROUND THEM HERE FOR THE COUPLE OF ITEMS THE FIRST ONE HERE IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED AND BUDGETED FOR IN THE BUDGET COUNCIL APPROVED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2425. IT IS TO LOOK AT A HOMEBUYER PROGRAM FOR OUR EMPLOYEES WE WOULD BE PARTNERING WITH COMMUNITY WORKS WHICH IS A STATE OR ORGANIZATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE. AS YOU KNOW THE TOWN IS COMMITTED TO ATTRACTING RETAINING HIGH QUALITY OF STAFF.

YOU GOT TO MEET SOME OF OUR NEW ONES, THOSE THAT WERE PROMOTED EARLIER TONIGHT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS A WAY TO NOT ONLY ENCOURAGE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION BUT ALSO PROVIDE OUR EMPLOYEES A CHANCE TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK .

AS WE KNOW AS PEOPLE HAVE MOVED INTO OUR COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE TO LIVE FURTHER OUT.

YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THE TRAFFIC AS, YOU COMMUTE INTO WORK. YOU DON'T NECESSARILY BECOME PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU WORK FOR. YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN AFFORD TO GO AS NOTED HERE YOU WILL SEE THAT THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE FOR 2024 DEPENDING ON THE TWO ZIP CODES 29909 AND 29910 WERE WELL OVER $500,000 PUSHING 515 AND 517 BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT ZIP CODES. AS WE KNOW THE SUPPLY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS VERY LOW WHICH IS WHY IT'S A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT HEARD FROM KEVIN I HEARD EARLIER TONIGHT AND APPROVING THE AMENDMENT TO THE CURRENT PLAN SO WE CAN START USING TAX FUNDS TO ENCOURAGE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ONE THING I WILL SAY IS YOU HEAR ME TALK ABOUT AMA AND USE THAT AS A GUIDE FOR THIS. THE KEY TO REMEMBER FOR THIS IS THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THIS IS NOT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM FOR.

OUR EMPLOYEES IT'S A HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TOO LIKE I SAID TO ENCOURAGE OUR EMPLOYEES AND TRY TO HELP THEM LIVE THEY WORK AND THE COMMUNITY THEY REPRESENT WE USE AMA BECAUSE IT HELPS GIVE US A GUIDE FOR WHAT THE AREA AND MEDIAN INCOME IS HELP THAT'S WHAT HUD USES TO HELP DETERMINE HOW YOU KNOW INCOME RATES FOR FAMILIES AND THEIR FLUCTUATES YEAR TO YEAR BASED ON PREVIOUS YEAR DATA. SO IT GIVES US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE AS A BASE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK EVERY YEAR AND TRY ADJUST OR SAY OKAY WELL WE STARTED AT $50,000 FIVE YEARS AGO. WHAT DO WE WANT TO MOVE IT TO NOW? THE AMA IS A LIVING BREATHING NUMBER THAT FLUCTUATES THAT WE USE FOR OTHER THINGS SO IT GIVES US A GOOD BASE NUMBER THAT WE CAN GO FROM SO WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU HEAR AMA WE USE THAT A LOT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRYING TO KEEP YOU ALL FROM THINKING THIS AS A AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM MORE SO THAN JUST AN EMPLOYEE PROGRAM. WITH THAT BEING SAID YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH AMA AND JUST KIND OF THE DIFFERENT LEVELS WITH PERCENTAGES WE ARE TARGET WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY KIND OF LINE UP. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A PROPOSED AND THIS IS BASED ON CURRENT WE DID TAKE THIS TO HEAR FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THEY FELT WE WERE DOING ENOUGH BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE HEARD FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS, BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE SEEN IN PROJECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DOING ENOUGH FOR TO MAKE IT BENEFICIAL FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. SO WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED WAS ONE CHANGE BUT WHAT THAT'S REFLECTED IN HERE SO WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED STARTING AT THE 80 TO 120% RANGE WITH $20,000 OR ANYBODY BELOW 120% WITH A $20,000 BENEFIT.

THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED WE NEED TO DO MORE FOR THE 80% AND

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BELOW SO THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE CREATE A NEW TIER FOR THOSE THAT ARE 80% OR BELOW AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND AND SO THEY WE DO $25,000 FOR THEM SO I'M GOING TO GET INTO THE PROGRAM DETAILS IN A MINUTE ON HOW IT'S SET UP, HOW IT WORKS BUT THESE ARE THE TIERS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AND IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN ON WHO WOULD QUALIFY WITHIN OUR EMPLOYEE FOR THE DIFFERENT TIERS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE IF YOU LOOK AT 120% AND BELOW THAT MAKES UP 75% OF OUR EMPLOYEES WITHIN THE TOWN THAT'S THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM.

AND THEN ONCE YOU GET UP AND YOU REDUCE THAT AMOUNT WE GET INTO A LOT LOWER PERCENTAGES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. SO AGAIN THE BIGGER BENEFIT TO HELP WITH HOMEOWNERSHIP WOULD BE FOR THOSE THAT ARE MAKING LOWER AMOUNTS WITHIN THE TOWN. SO WHY DID WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? WE'RE USING THE 30% GUIDE GUIDELINE THAT'S USED FOR WHEN YOU TRY TO BUY A HOME. SO WHAT THE RULE IS IS YOU SHOULD ONLY USE 30% OF YOUR INCOME TO GO TOWARDS EITHER MORTGAGE OR RENT PAYMENT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT A $335,000 HOUSE PURCHASE NOWADAYS WITH ABOUT A 7% INTEREST RATE, YOU WOULD HAVE A MONTHLY MORTGAGE PAYMENT OF ABOUT 20 $500 AND THAT ALSO SHOWS THE FAIR MARKET RENT FOR ONE BEDROOM CURRENTLY IN COUNTY IS JUST SHORT OF 1500 DOLLARS. SO WE USE THAT AS A GUIDE TO KIND OF SHOW HOW AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP IS REALLY AND SAY HOW UP OR HOW TOUGH IT IS TO AFFORD HOMEOWNERSHIP WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW. SO FOR 60%, AMY, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S EARNING $42,000 A YEAR WOULD QUALIFY FOR A $25,000 LOAN BUT ULTIMATELY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE HELP THAN JUST US BECAUSE.

IT WOULD USE OUR MEDIAN HOME, THE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS ABOUT $24,500 USING THE 30% METHOD THEY WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO GET ABOUT $1,000 A MONTH IN PAYMENT.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO NEED MORE HELP. SO THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE THE ONLY TOOL THAT'S GOING TO HELP PEOPLE OWN A HOME. IT IS A TOOL THAT WE CAN OFFER TO OUR EMPLOYEES TO HELP THEM BRIDGE THAT GAP TO GET TO HOMEOWNERSHIP.

AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE OF THESE ARE IN YOUR PACKAGE JUST SO YOU COULD KIND OF SEE THEM. WE DID 60, 80 AND 100 AND 120 140 JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU EVEN WHEN YOU GET UP TO 100% AMMA, YOU'RE STILL YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN JUST WHAT WE'RE DOING TO GET THERE. THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A PROGRAM THAT'S JUST GOING TO HELP EVERY EMPLOYEE ON A HOME. IT'S GOING TO HELP CLOSE THAT GAP FOR SOME PEOPLE. SO HOW THE PROGRAM WOULD WORK IS IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO TWO ZIP CODES. IT WOULD BE TWO NINE, NINE OR NINE AND 29910.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENT PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION AND READY FOR OCCUPANCY. 90 DAYS OF CLOSING THE TOTAL OF MORTGAGES CANNOT EXCEED 100% OF THE APPRAISED VALUE AND THEN IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR PRETTY MUCH ANY LOAN TYPE THAT YOU CAN GET FOR A HOME AND THEN THE FUNDS CAN BE USED WHETHER IT'S TO BUY DOWN INTEREST, WHETHER IT'S FOR DOWN PAYMENT CLOSING COST THE GOAL THE MAIN THING IS THEY CANNOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDING BACK AND CLOSING THE WHOLE ENTIRETY HAS TO GO TOWARDS EITHER REDUCING AS A DOWN PAYMENT OR TOWARDS THE CLOSING COST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT CAN'T GO YOU CAN'T GET CASH BACK AT AT CLOSING SO FOR THE EMPLOYEE TO BE ELIGIBLE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PAST THEIR INITIAL PROBATIONARY PERIOD AND IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE TOWN THEY WOULD HAVE TO SECURE THE 30 YEAR MORTGAGE ON THE HOME. THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO INVEST A MINIMUM OF $1,000 INTO THE HOME PURCHASE AND. WE WOULD WORK WITH COMMUNITY WORKS TO PUT THEM THROUGH AN ORIENTATION OR EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOP LIKE IT DOES FINANCIAL LITERACY AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW THEY BALANCE HOW TO DO A BUDGET AND HOW HOME THE THE OTHER COSTS WITH HOME OWNERSHIP AND ETC.. STEVE ON ONE QUESTION ON THAT THEY MUST SECURE 30 YEAR MORTGAGE HERE GO BACK WHAT IF THEY DON'T WANT BUT A 20 YEAR MORTGAGE IS THAT I MEAN IS THAT JUST TYPE THAT WAY OR I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE IF THAT IS MEAN DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY COMMUNITY WORKS DID WE ADJUST THAT SO WE COULD WE COULD WITH THAT AND ADJUST THAT AND SAY THEY COULD THEY'D HAVE TO SECURE A FIXED RATE MORTGAGE .

WE'D SAY IF SOMEBODY CAN AFFORD A TEN YEAR MORTGAGE ON A HOME THEIR BOND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NECESSARILY NEED OUR PROGRAM. I WAS THINKING MAYBE A 20 BUT YOU KNOW THIS THIS IS JUST DOESN'T MEAN WHAT THEIR SPOUSE SAYS INCOME CORRECT FOR OUR

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TOWN AND FOR OUR TOWN EMPLOYEES BASED ON THEIR SALARIES SO IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE WE CAN GO AND JUST SAY MUST SECURE BETWEEN A 15 AND 30 YEAR MORTGAGE ON THEIR HOME YEAH AND I JUST WOULDN'T OR WE COULD JUST SAY SECURE MORTGAGE NOT TO 30 YEARS WE'LL GET THE MONEY.

YEAH OKAY THAT ANY ISSUES WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT THE REST OF COUNCIL.

NO I THINK THAT'S JUST ONE MAKE SURE SO THE WAY THAT YOU CONTINUE WITH THE PROGRAM TERMS SO IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A SECURED THROUGH A PROMISSORY NOTE AND BECOMES A LEAN ON THE PROPERTY BECOMES A SUBORDINATE OF LEAN ON THE PROPERTY SO. THE PRIMARY MORTGAGE WOULD BE ONE THIS WOULD BE TO THREE WHEREVER IT FALLS IN LINE AND IT'S FORGIVEN IT'S ZERO INTEREST IN IS FORGIVEN AFTER YEARS SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY MONTH THAT YOU WORK FOR THE TOWN WE FORGIVE THAT WE FORGIVE 1/60 OF THE THE LOAN LOAN IF THEY LEAVE BEFORE FIVE YEARS THEY HAVE THE OPTION REPAY IT OR IT STILL SITS AS A LOAN AND SHOULD THEY SELL THE HOME WE'LL GET OUR MONEY BACK AND MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE BUT THEY LEAVE IT'LL STOP BEING FORGIVEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND SIT A LEAN SO WE'LL GET OUR MONEY BACK EVENTUALLY IT WILL JUST BE WHEN THEY SELL THE HOME IT WILL NO LONGER BE FORGIVEN ONCE THEY LEAVE IT'LL JUST BECOME SAD AT THAT POINT IN TIME. QUESTION COURSE FOR TERRY AND STEPHEN WHAT I DON'T I DON'T THINK THEY TAKE THIS ENOUGH BUT CAN CAN WE FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST SOMEONE WHO LEAVES FOR FOR REPAYMENT IMMEDIATELY BUT IT WOULD BE A NOTE AND A MORTGAGE THAT WOULD THAT WOULD DOCUMENT THIS RELATIONSHIP. BUT THE BUT BUT AS THIS AS IT STANDS NOW AND THEY SAID TO KEEP THEIR HOME FOR 30 YEARS WE WANT TO BET THAT IF IF OUR NOTE AND MORTGAGE FOR FIVE YEARS WORKING FOR THE TOWN FOR FIVE YEARS THEY AREN'T FORGIVEN IS FORGIVEN YEAH BUT IF THEY LEFT AFTER IF THEY LEFT AFTER TWO YEARS WE WOULD HAVE A PROVISION WE WOULD BUILD IN A PROVISION THAT SAYS IT WOULD BE DO FULL WHATEVER IS LEFT WOULD BE DOING FOR WITHIN SIX EIGHT MONTHS WHATEVER THE COUNCIL WANTED AFTER YOU LEAVING AND IF THEY FAIL TO PAY THAT THEN WE WOULD THE RIGHT OF OF ANY MORTGAGE HOLDER TO TO MOVE FORWARD. YEAH THAT'S FAIR AND SO WE WOULD NEED TO ADJUST THAT WITHIN THE THE PROGRAM I'M NOT AGAINST OF COUNSEL WOULD LIKE WE CAN LOOK AT A 12 MONTH TIME PERIOD AFTER THEY LEAVE TO TO FOR REPAYMENT OR WE CAN YOU KNOW WE COULD ALSO DO A COMBINATION OF SHOULD THEY LEAVE WHATEVER YOU KNOW PTO ANY OF THAT KIND OF STUFF THAT'S LEFT WE COULD TAKE OR REMOVE IT AND HAVE THEM PAY THE DIFFERENCE AT THAT POINT IN TIME AND WE COULD LOOK AT SOME SORT OF COMBINATION.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO TO PROTECT IT. BUT I WOULD THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I WOULD RATHER HAVE A TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF TAKING PTO OR STUFF LIKE THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH PTO. OH NO, NO.

RIGHT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE AN ABUSE OF THE PTO TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.

WHAT NEW HOME SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW. BUT YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS IT'S LIKE WE COUNSELOR SAID, AS LONG AS IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE IN A NOTE WE CAN DO TO YOUR POINT WITHIN 12 MONTHS OR WHATEVER I THINK THAT'S ADEQUATE IF. THEY YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY SOLD THE HOME IT'S 12 MONTHS ADEQUATE OR THEY LEAVE IF THEY SELL THE HOME THEN WE GET IT YOU KNOW. YEAH RIGHT YEAH THEY END UP LEAVING HERE BECAUSE LET'S JUST LIKE WE'VE HAD SOME HAPPEN THEIR THEIR SPOUSE GETS A JOB IN MISSOURI AND THEY WERE MOVING WITH THEIR SPOUSE THEY'RE GOING TO SELL THEIR HOME HERE WE'RE GOING TO GET RECOUPED ON THAT SO BUT IF THEY ARE STAYING HERE, JUST TAKE ANOTHER JOB THAT SAY ANOTHER WE WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE 12 MONTHS TO WORK GETTING IT REPAID AND HOWEVER THEY WANT DO THAT WHETHER IT'S USING PTO OR WHATEVER THEY COULD DO SO. OKAY SO YOU MAKING A GOOD RIGHT NOW THIS WOULD BE PROVIDED ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS. WE WHEN DID THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR WE USED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY ASIDE BASED ON FUNDING ONE AT EACH LEVEL SO IF IT ENDS UP BEING HIGH INTEREST IN THIS WE WOULD HAVE TO EITHER CUT IT OFF OR WE COULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH AN AMENDMENT AND ASK TO MOVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND TO BE ABLE TO COVER ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS OR ADDITIONAL LOANS FOR EMPLOYEES .

BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ENOUGH IN THERE TO DO ONE AT EACH LEVEL BUT IS OUR SO AGAIN THIS IS A

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PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY WORK SO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WOULD BE TO AN M.O. YOU WITH THEM SO WHAT YOU WOULD BE TONIGHT IS PRETTY MUCH APPROVING FOR ME TO TAKE THESE TERMS ASK THEM TO SET THE PROGRAM UP TO IMPLEMENT IT ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN RIGHT NOW THEY DO THIS FOR ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. THEY DO FOR THE CITY OF BEAUFORT THEY DO BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITALS THEY DO THE CITY OF FLORENCE IT IS SPARTANBURG. SO YOU'RE GREENVILLE. THEY DO ABOUT A THINGS ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE AND THEY CAN MAKE SURE IT HIT THEM.

YEAH THEY DO. CITY OF GOOSE CREEK AS WELL SO THEY DO A BUNCH OF THESE THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS ENTERING A MRU AND WE WOULD SET THE DETAILS UP BASED ON WHAT OUR PROGRAM WOULD BE AND THEN IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED THEY WOULD WORK THEIR COMMUNITY WORKS AND THEY WOULD ACTUALLY SET THE MEAN AND DO ALL THAT KIND OF WORK FOR US ON OUR BEHALF. HOW DO WE PAY THEM? WE PAY AS MY QUESTION QUESTION TO FINANCE YES FORGET WITH 13% 15% SO THEY GET 15% OF OF WHAT WE GIVEN WHAT THE COST TO THE HOUSE 50% AMOUNT. SO IF WE DO A $10,000 LOAN THEY WOULD GET 1500 DOLLARS FOR DOING FOR HANDLING EVERYTHING WE DO 20,000 THEY WOULD GET $3,000 SO THEY WOULD BE OUR PROCEEDED FOR THERE TO LET ME NEGOTIATE THAT AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT EVERY OTHER DOLLAR AND I WOULD SAY WE COULD DO IT OURSELVES BUT THEN WE WOULD END UP PAYING KAREN RICHARDSON TO HANDLE ALL THE LEGAL SIDE OF IT AND SALARY WE GOT IT DIDN'T WORK SO I COULDN'T HELP MYSELF. OKAY SO COUNSEL WAS GOOD.

YOU WOULD BE MAKING A MOTION APPROVE THE MSU BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND COMMUNITY WORKS AND AUTHORIZE ME TO EXECUTE THAT THAT M.O. YOU WILL OUTLINE THE TERMS WE'VE TALKED TONIGHT INCLUDING THE CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT THAT WE FINALIZE AND MAKE SURE WE CAPTURED EVERYTHING THAT, COUNSEL SAID.

AND THE GOAL WOULD BE WE WOULD THEN TAKE ONCE THE MUSE IN PLACE WE WOULD SET UP OUR PROGRAM, WE WOULD SHARE THAT OUT TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND START ENCOURAGING THAT ANY OF THAT ARE INTERESTED TO SEEK INFORMATION IN A BLOCK. SO OUTSIDE OF THAT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNSEL MAY HAVE. I HAVE A GO AHEAD SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME CONCERNS. I'M GRATEFUL TO SEE THAT WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM THAT INCENTIVIZES A PATH FOR EMPLOYEES. IF YOU WERE TO ACCESS HOUSING.

BUT MY CONCERN COMES IN AS WE KNOW OUR AMA INCREASES SODAS AFFORDABILITY SO WHAT A PERSON GOING A MENTAL BLOCK CAN AFFORD IS DIFFERENT FROM PERSON WHO'S KNOW IN NEED OF IT MIGHT BE ON LIKE AN HOURLY RANGE SO I'M INTERESTED TO SEE LIKE WELL THOSE WHO REALLY NEED TO UTILIZE THE PROGRAM SINCE IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVE RECEIVE SOME TYPE OF PREFERENCE IN TERMS OF IF WE HAVE SIX FIGURE SALARY EMPLOYEES OPPOSED TO AN HOURLY SALARIED EMPLOYEE LIKE HOW DO WE ARE WE GOING TO DETERMINE LIKE THE PERSON WHO'S REALLY IN NEED OF IT THE MOST IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM IT AS WE ARE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ABLE TO ACCESS YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT THIS PROGRAM IS OFFERING AS WELL. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY PARAMETERS AND LIKE I SAID IT'S FIRST COME FIRST SERVE AS IT'S SET UP.

I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN SEE WHAT THE INTEREST IN IT RIGHT NOW I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE INTEREST MAY BE IN IT. I KNOW THAT IF WE HAD THE PROGRAM IN PLACE LAST YEAR THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD WE HAVE A LADY WHO COMES TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETINGS WHO'S BEEN TRYING TO PURCHASE HOME. SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO SIGN UP TO DO IT BUT WE WEREN'T YOU KNOW, WE WERE HAD TO GET IT IN FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE. WE CAN ALWAYS SAY THAT THE OF STARTING IT OUT FIRST COME FIRST SERVE AS WE CAN SAY THAT WE'LL HOLD ONE AT EACH LEVEL AND THEN WE CAN SEE HOW THEY TAKEN AS FIRST COME FIRST SERVE AT EACH LEVEL AND WE SEE THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND AT A CERTAIN LEVEL WE CAN THEN COME BACK AND SEE IF WE WANT TO MOVE MONEY INTO DIFFERENT PROGRAM OR YOU KNOW REPLENISH THE OTHER LEVELS AND BUY QUESTION OR SUGGESTIONS IS THAT I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INCENTIVE HERE THE PATH FOR THOSE WHO WANT HOMEOWNERSHIP BUT KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF A PROGRAM EXISTS BUT I DO KNOW THAT EVERYONE IN ENDEAVORING TO BE A HOMEOWNER AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES AND RESIDENTS WHO DO PREFER TO RATE IN AN AREA WHERE RENT IS JUST IT'S YOU KNOW INCREASINGLY IMPOSSIBLE

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FOR MANY TO AFFORD. I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE SEE HOW WE CAN LOOK TO SEE IF A PROGRAM OUT THERE SEE HOW WE COULD CONSIDER EMPLOYEES ALSO WHILE WE'RE OFFERING A FOR HOMEOWNERS ,HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LEAVE WHO ARE RENTERS OUT OF BEING ABLE TO GET SOME TYPE OF A REPRIEVE IN THIS HOUSING CRISIS AS WELL? NO, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

WE'VE THE CONVERSATION INTERNALLY EVEN WITH NOT JUST AT THE CHILDS WELL.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ON LOOKING AT SOME SORT OF STIPEND AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE HAVE NOT PUT ANY KIND OF PROGRAM IN PLACE IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL MAY BE INTERESTED IN THAT'S SOMETHING AGAIN STRATEGIC PLAN THAT CAN BRING UP AND GET GUIDANCE AND THEN WE CAN START LOOKING INTO THE BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND SEE IF WE CAN PUT SOME POINT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE.

AGAIN, WE KNOW IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO LIVE THIS AREA BECAUSE IT IS A GREAT COMMUNITY. EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE HERE AND IT'S MADE IT VERY TOUGH TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE AND MOVE HERE. THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ISSUES WITH TRYING TO RECRUIT PEOPLE IS BEING ABLE TO AFFORD WHETHER IT'S RENT, HOMEOWNERSHIP, CHILD CARE, ALL OF THAT. SO NO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT. THANK YOU. YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT BUT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T FIX THE WORLD AND A BIT WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES IN THIS BUDGET MAYBE TIME WE CAN DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT I DON'T I DON'T US TO THINK THAT WE CAN FIX THE WORLD AND OF LET'S JUST MEASURE ONE AND MAKE BLUFFTON LIVABLE AND AT EVERY ASPECT.

IT'S ALMOST THE SAME THING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOU KNOW IF YOU TRY TO DO EVERYTHING THEN YOU DO JUST YOU REALLY YOU REALLY CAN'T MAKE AN IMPACT BECAUSE IN MACOMB YOU CAN MAKE FEEL LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO DO MUCH AND YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING DONE.

I'VE SEEN I MEAN THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE FOR AN EXAMPLE SOMEBODY WILL HAVE THREE JOBS BUT WHICH ONE OF WHICH ONE REALLY PAYS THE BILL? SO YOU TRY TO DO TOO MANY THINGS AND BOTH OF THEM WOULD PROBABLY MAKE YOU HAPPY SO I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I KNOW TRYING TO SCRATCH SURFACE IS HARD BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FOCUS AND ON AND ON THAT FOCUS IS SOMETHING TO ACCOMPLISH AND CELEBRATE THAT TO COME FRAMPTON'S POINT AGREE AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SET IN OUR BUDGET TO DO BUT GOING BACK TO THE POINT OF THIS PROGRAM THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OFFERING ON OUR OWN. WE ARE GOING THROUGH WORKS AND I'M SAYING IF WE ARE LOOKING AT PROGRAMS ON THE PATH OF HOME OWNERSHIP THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE THAT EXIST AS AN EDUCATOR IN FLORIDA THERE WAS A GROUP SIMILAR TO COMMUNITY WORKS THAT PILOTED SOMETHING TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZED NATIONS AND IT FOCUSED ON RENTAL OPTIONS IN TRYING TO RECRUIT PUBLIC SERVANTS WHETHER THEY WERE EDUCATORS, FIRST RESPONDERS, WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THEY WERE A PARAMETER THAT CAME WITH IT BUT IT WAS A BENEFIT TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT DIDN'T REQUIRE A LOT OF OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES.

SO I'M JUST SAYING IF WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE INCENTIVES LIKE THIS THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS OFFERING FOR HOMEOWNERS, WE BE ABLE TO CONSIDER EXPLORING OPTIONS THAT EXIST THERE TOO FOR THE REGULAR COMMUNITY BECAUSE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AN ISSUE THAT ANY COMMUNITY IS GOING TO SOLVE ON THEIR OWN. YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARTNERS IN WHATEVER ROUTE WE'RE TAKING AND I'M JUST SAYING DON'T EXCLUDE ANYONE IF THE OPTION PRESENTS ITSELF I, I HEAR YOU BOTH AND I'VE WORKED WITH RICK ON THIS TOPIC AND IT'S PROBABLY BEEN THE MOST CHALLENGING TOPIC I'VE BEEN A COUNCILMAN BY FAR. IT'S VERY COMPLICATED. AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING I WOULD THROW OUT IS WHEN WE DO OUR APARTMENT COMPLEX THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS US FROM HAVING A FEW SET ASIDE FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE FROM A RENTAL PERSPECTIVE, THE RENTAL WORLD IS NOW MORE THAN HAVING A MORTGAGE IN BLUFFTON. THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS AS WE PROGRESS THE ROAD ON THIS PROGRAM, I WOULD LOVE YOU TO COME BACK IN A YEAR WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS IN YOUR REPORT, YOU KNOW THE MONEY THAT WAS BEING SAVED ALMOST IN EVERY ONE OF THE EXAMPLES IS LIKE $100 A MONTH OR SOMETHING.

IT WASN'T A WHOLE LOT ON THE MORTGAGE PAYMENT AND THEN THE ISSUE STILL REMAINS THAT WE ALL KNOW BETTER THAN ANYBODY BECAUSE YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF THIS BUT THE ISSUE REMAINS

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THE HOUSING COST IS SO IMPORTANTLY HIGH. I DON'T KNOW YOU CAN'T BUY $180,000 HOUSE IN BLUFFTON AND YOU PROBABLY CAN'T FIND ONE ANYMORE FOR 200.

SO THE PROBLEM IS THE MARKET UP, THE MORTGAGES GO UP, EVERYTHING GOES UP AND.

THEY'RE THEY'RE STILL IN THE WEEDS AND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SAVING ON WITH THIS IS A GOOD START. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT'S COME AND REVISIT THIS A YEAR FROM NOW TO SEE TO TWEAK IT OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAYBE MAKE IT WORK BETTER I AGREE I HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE IT'S RIGHT HERE. A SINGLE DISHEARTENING COMMENT I. JUST HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THIS ALSO WOULD APPLY TO A POLICE DEPARTMENT ALL TOWN EMPLOYEES JUST MAKING SURE THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU MAY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MAYOR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COMMUNITY WORKS AND TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN SO ANYBODY SO ANY DISCUSSION OF I WOULD SAY I I THAT UNANIMOUS APPROVAL NOW OR YOU'RE STILL OUT ME AGAIN

[IX.3. Consideration of Approval of a Resolution to Update the Town of Bluffton Employee Handbook - Stephen Steese, Town Manager]

CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL AND EMPLOYEES UPDATE WE'RE SO IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN IS TO TALK ABOUT EMPLOYEES IT IS TIME WE'VE HAD SOME UPDATES OUR TOWN OF BLUFFTON EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK WE DO THIS EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS THREE YEARS WHAT REALLY STARTED IT THIS TIME IS THERE WAS A NEW FEDERAL PRESIDENT EEOC GUIDANCE ON HARASSMENT SO WE NEEDED TO UPDATE THAT TO MATCH IT. SO WE WENT THROUGH AND WE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO UPDATE AND THEN SOME POTENTIAL NEW PROGRAMS THAT WERE NOT IN THERE THAT A COUPLE OF WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WE DID.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NOT IS KIND OF GO THROUGH WHAT THOSE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE JUST KIND OF SOME OF THEM MOST OF THEM ARE EDITS HIGH LEVEL AND THEN I'LL GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. SO THESE ARE ONES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO AMEND EXISTING ONES AS YOU CAN SEE ONES TOWN VEHICLE USAGE POLICY POLICY ONE IS TO ADD IN ANNUAL DMV CHECKS JUST FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS A TOWN ISSUED VEHICLE AND THEN CLARIFY LANGUAGE TO TAKE ON VEHICLE CAN BE USED FOR AND THEN THE PROCEDURE FOR STAFF REQUESTING ONE. IT'S JUST CLARIFYING SOME OF THE LANGUAGE IN THERE AND ALL THE CHANGES WERE IN THE PACKET THAT WENT THROUGH OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

SO I'M NOT GOING THROUGH LINE BY LINE JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE THE HIGH POINTS OF WHAT WE WERE CHANGING HOLIDAY POLICY ONE OF THEM IS IN LIEU HOLIDAYS WHAT THAT HAS TO DO WITH IS LET'S SAY YOU ARE ONE OF OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE. YOU SAY YOU'RE SUNNY.

YOU WORK ON A SATURDAY OR ON A MONDAY DOWN THERE AND IT TURNS OUT MONDAY IS A HOLIDAY YOU CAN THEN WITHIN THAT WEEK TAKE ANOTHER DAY ALL FOR YOUR HOLIDAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THE SAME DAY IF YOU'RE REQUIRED TO WORK OR IF SOMETHING COMES UP LIKE THAT.

SO IF YOU'RE IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T THEY DON'T GET A THEY DON'T LOSE THAT HOLIDAY SO IF THEY'RE SCHEDULED OFF THEY CAN TAKE IT OFF ANOTHER TIME WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT'S IN HERE THE PRESIDENT'S DAY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT DURING THE BUDGET WAS TO LOOK TO ADD PRESIDENT'S DAY AS A PAID HOLIDAY WE DON'T DO SO WE HAVE TO ADD THAT INTO OUR PERSONNEL MANUAL WITHIN LIST OF APPROVED HOLIDAYS BY THE TOWN COUNCIL SO THAT WOULD ADD THAT IN THERE THE HARASSMENT NON DISCRIMINATION POLICY THOSE WE ADDED IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE EEOC GUIDANCE TO PREVENT HARASSMENT AND WE ADDED IN REPORTING PROCEDURES WAS PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY NOT INCLUDED IN THAT. WE ALSO UPDATED CHAIN OF COMMAND TO UPDATE REPORTING ISSUES AS WELL AS JUST RECOGNIZING THE FORM GOVERNMENT THE CONFLICTS WITH CONFLICTS WITHIN CHAIN OF COMMAND ARISE LIKE IF IT'S YOUR DIRECT IT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT HEAD WHO THE COMPLAINT AGAINST OR IF IT'S AGAINST AN ASSISTANT OR H.R HOW THAT HOW THAT WORKS AND IT ALSO REFLECTED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT CAME IN FROM EEOC AS WELL A COUPLE OF NEW POLICIES ARE BEING PROPOSED OR RECOMMENDED AND THESE WOULD BE NEW ONES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN PLACE ONE OF THE PTO DONATION POLICY THAT WOULD CREATE A CENTRAL BANK FOR PTO YOU WOULD HAVE TO TO USE IT AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE USED FOR MEDICAL EMERGENCY LET'S SAY WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO STARTED WITH US THREE WEEKS AGO AND THEY END UP HAVING A STROKE OR HEART AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PTO. THE PTO BANK WOULD THEY COULD THEY COULD ASK TO DRAW PTO OUT OF THAT BANK AND USE TO COVER UNTIL SHORT TERM DISABILITY LONG TERM DISABILITY KICKS TO HELP THEM THEY COULD REQUEST UP TO 12 WEEKS WHICH IS

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FMLA LIMITS AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY A THREE PERSON COMMITTEE THAT I WOULD APPOINT AND THEN YOU KNOW ALL OF IT IT WOULD AGAIN NOT INTERFERE WITH FMLA.

IT'S ACTUALLY SET UP TO MATCH SO YOU COULD CAP OUT FOR YOUR FMLA.

WE ALSO WOULD SET IT UP SO THAT NO YOU COULD DONATE TO A SPECIFIC EMPLOYEE.

WHAT WE DID WANT TO HAVE IS SOMEBODY SAYING WELL I ONLY WANT TO GIVE MY TIME IF I CAN GIVE IT TO THIS PERSON THEY WOULD HAVE TO DONATE IT TO THE GENERIC BANK SO THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE COMMITTEE COULD COULD GET COULD GET THE PTO NOT SO THEY COULD ONLY GIVE IT IF IT'S GOING TO GO TO A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL. WE DIDN'T TO END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE COUNCILMAN HAMILTON SAID WELL I ONLY TO GIVE MY PTO IF IT'S GOING TO GO TO COUNCILMAN WOOD BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO TO HIM THEN I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

AND THE REASON THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR PTO WOULD BE IF THEY DON'T USE IT WHEN GET TO THE END OF THE YEAR IF YOU CARRY ACCRUE TOO MUCH PTO RIGHT NOW LOSE IT.

THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DONATE IT INTO A BANK THAT COULD BE USED THESE EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THIS YEAR WOULD HAVE A FURTHER EMPLOYEE HAD A SITUATION FAMILY MEMBER WAS SICK AND THAT PERSON NEEDED EXTRA TIME AND SOMEONE IN THEIR DEPARTMENT REALIZED THAT AND SAID I'D LIKE TO GIVE MY PTO TO TO HIM OR HER SO THAT SHE COULD SPEND SOME MORE TIME THE FAMILY SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. THERE'S NOT A THERE'S NOT A WAY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW WITH THIS THAT PERSON COULD DONATE TO THE BANK AND THE PERSON COULD APPLY FOR THAT BANK COULD APPLY FOR THE THE PTO TIME THE THE GOAL WAS TO NOT JUST ONLY HAVE IT FROM PERSON TO PERSON SO YOU KNOW I'M ONLY DOING IT FOR MY FRIEND BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT FOR ANYBODY ELSE. IT'S IN NEED. SO THAT'S THE WAY IT IT WOULD BE SET UP ANY. OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT WE HAVE A QUESTION I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS BUT JUST ADDRESSED THE CHAIN OF COMMAND. RIGHT.

I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THAT. SO IN LOOKING AT ALL SCENARIOS WHEN IT COMES TO CHAIN OF COMMAND, I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE HERE THAT PARTNERSHIP ALL THAT THEN IT GETS FOLLOWED UP THROUGH H.R. WHAT HAPPENS IF A PERSON HAS COMPLAINT TO FILE AGAINST H.R WHO THEN DO THEY COMMUNICATE WITH? THEY CAN REPORT TO THEIR SUPERVISOR WHO IS THE ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER AND IF IT'S WITH THEM THEN THEY CAN REPORT TO ME AND THIS DOESN'T IMPEDE OR TAKE AWAY FROM THE GRIEVANCE COMMITTEE THIS WORKS IN TANDEM WITH THEM, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST IF YOU NEED TO REPORT HARASSMENT YOU PUT IT UP YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND EFFICIENTLY AND IN A TIMELY YOU KNOW, IN A TIMELY MANNER SO IT CAN BE ADDRESSED AND AGAIN PART OF THAT IS WE UPDATED IT WITH THE EEOC STUFF BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO REPORT YOUR HARASSMENT THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING THE PROPER PROCESS BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T TELL REPORT STUFF PROPERLY THEN IT MAY NOT GET ADDRESSED IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FOLLOWING MORE QUESTIONS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE IS PAID PARENTAL LEAVE AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. THE STATE SIGNED LEGISLATION MAY 13TH, 2024 ALLOWING PAID PARENTAL LEAVE FOR STATE EMPLOYEES.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO MODEL WHAT THE STATE APPROVED CITY OF BEAUFORT IS PROPOSING TO IMPLEMENT THIS YEAR. COUNTY ALREADY DOES IT SO THE WAY IT'S SET UP IS THE PERSON WHO IS GIVING BIRTH OR THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER IF YOU'RE ADOPTING WOULD BE ALLOWED SIX WEEKS OF PTO TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING WITH THAT EMPLOYEE. YOU HAVE A SPOUSE OR PARTNER THAT'S GIVEN BIRTH OR IS NOT THE PRIMARY CAREGIVER DURING AN ADOPTION IF YOU'RE TAKING CUSTODY OF A FOSTER CHILD WOULD BE PROVIDED TWO WEEKS OF PTO TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WE HAVE IT SO THAT NO TWO EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN WOULD QUALIFY TO TAKE SIX WEEKS OF PAID LEAVE AT THE SAME TIME. SO IN OTHER WORDS ONE TO PRIMARY ONE'S A SECONDARY YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO PRIMARIES AT THE SAME TIME BUT AGAIN THIS MODELS A STATE POLICY AND IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE CURRENTLY IN PLACE WHICH IS PAID PARENTAL LEAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT LAST ONE BEREAVEMENT LEAVE THIS IS SOMETHING AGAIN WE DO NOT HAVE AND I WILL SAY THIS IS THE

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PLACE I'VE BEEN AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT DOES NOT HAVE BEREAVEMENT LEAVE BEREAVEMENT LEAVE IS FOR WHENEVER YOU HAVE AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBER PASSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.

WE'VE HAD QUITE A LOT OF LOSSES IN THIS PAST YEAR REALLY YEAR A HALF OF IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND WELL WE ARE USING WHAT IS THE THE NATIONAL HUMAN RESOURCE MODEL IS WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE WHICH IS FOUR DAYS FOR AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER AND THAT'S DEFINED IN HERE WHICH A SPOUSE CHILD STEP PARENT STEP MOTHER FATHER IN-LAWS DAUGHTER SON IN LAW ALL SIBLINGS WARNER DOLE DOLE WHO STOOD IN LOCO PARENTIS WHICH IS IN OTHER WORDS LIKE IF YOU WERE RAISED BY YOUR AUNT OR YOU'RE RAISED BY YOUR THEY'RE YOUR THEIR PARENT ESSENTIALLY IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO RAISED YOU, YOU WOULD GET THAT SAME TIME ONE DAY FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBER WHICH IS OUTLINED IN HERE AS WELL, IT PRETTY MUCH GOES UP TO YOUR GREAT HOUR TO YOUR AS WELL AS YOUR IN-LAWS, AUNTS, UNCLES ETC. ETC. IT ALSO WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE WHEN YOU HAVE A FELLOW EMPLOYEE RETIREE THAT PASSED THIS GOES A LOT WITH LIKE OUR POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THERE'S A FELLOW OFFICER THAT MAY PASS RETIREE THE PASS THEY LIKE TO ATTEND A FUNERAL THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM THE TIME OFF TO BE ABLE TO SO WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT TAKING TIME OFF TO DO SOME ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SO UPON ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION WE WILL UPDATE OUR POLICIES. WE WILL ALSO CONDUCT TRAINING SESSIONS, WE SEND OUT VIDEOS TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THEY HAVE TO WATCH THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL THE UPDATED POLICIES AND WE WILL NEW ONES. WE WILL SEND OUT THE NEW GUIDES ON THOSE AS WELL AS THE ONE THAT YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY WITH HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM. WE'LL SEND OUT THAT AS WELL SO WE WILL UPDATE AND SEND THIS OUT AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO COME FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF THREE YEARS TO DO THIS AGAIN ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE A MOTION HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TO TAKE AN ACTION WOULD INCLUDE QUESTIONS SOMEONE WILLING TO MAKE THIS MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE ADOPTION OF THE REVISED EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK. SORT OF SECOND.

OKAY IN DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR SAY I AM UNANIMOUS. OKAY.

[IX.4. Consideration of an Ordinance Authorizing the Conveyance of Certain Real Property Owned by the Town of Bluffton to Beaufort County, Located Adjacent to 140 Buck Island Road and Consisting of 0.072 Acres, More or Less, and Identified as a Portion of Beaufort County Tax Map No. R610 031 000 0003 0000; and Authorizing the Execution and Recording of Associated Documents – First Reading - Stephen Steese, Town Manager]

NEXT CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CONVENIENCE CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO BE A COUNTY LOCATED ADJACENT TO 140 BUCK ISLAND ROAD AND CONSISTING OF 0.072 ACRES MORE LESS AND IDENTIFIED AS A PORTION OF BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX MAP NUMBER ARE 61003100000030000 IN AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND RECORDING OF ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS MAYOR AND COUNCIL SO YOU KNOW WE PURCHASED 140 BUCK ISLAND ROAD BACK IN JANUARY DURING THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD WE NOTICED THAT A PORTION OF THE COUNTY STORMWATER POND WHEN THEY BUILT BLUFFTON PARKWAY WHEN THEY PUT THE STORMWATER POND IN THE TOP OF THE BANK ACTUALLY CROSSED OUR PROPERTY BY ABOUT FIVE FEET ON A COUPLE ON THE WEST AND THE SOUTH AND THEN A PORTION OF THE MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL THAT THEY BUILT ACTUALLY WENT ABOUT A FOOT OR TWO OVER ON OUR PROPERTY.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CLEAN THAT UP SO THIS SHOWS WHERE THAT IS SO YOU CAN SEE RED AREAS THERE AT THE TOP YOU CAN SEE WHERE OUR PROPERTY GOES AND YOU SEE THE LITTLE DASHED LINES FOR THEIR SIDE MULTIPURPOSE PATH ACTUALLY COMES ACROSS ON OUR PROPERTY AND THEN WHERE THE POND IS THOSE TWO RED AREAS YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE TOP OF BANK ACTUALLY COMES ON OUR PROPERTY . THIS WAS FOUND WHEN WE DID THE ATLAS REPORT THAT THE SURVEY AS PART OF THE CLOSING SO WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY EVER SINCE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT HEY YOU HAVE IMPROVEMENTS AT OUR OWN PROPERTY. WE NEED TO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

THE EASIEST SOLUTION IS FOR US TO QUITCLAIM A SMALL PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY TO THEM.

THE REASON WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT IS MOSTLY FOR LIABILITY PURPOSES OUT OF A PORTION OF THE MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL IS ON OUR PROPERTY AND SOMEBODY SLIPPED ON THAT PORTION THEY'RE GOING TO FILED AGAINST OUR INSURANCE IF A PORTION OF THE STORMWATER POND IS ON OUR PROPERTY AND SOMEBODY FALLS INTO THAT STORMWATER POND THEY COULD POTENTIALLY TURN AROUND AND FILE SUIT AGAINST US. PART OF THAT STORMWATER POND IS ON OUR PROPERTY SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LIMITING OUR LIABILITY AND THAT THE COUNTY HAS ALL OF THEIR

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FACILITIES ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS TO ADDRESS TO OUR PROPERTY LINE AS YOU CAN SEE THAT IN RED IT MOVES IT SOUTH ABOUT THREE FEET SO WE DON'T THEIR MULTI-PURPOSE TRAIL ON OUR PROPERTY AND THEN IT MOVES OUR PROPERTY LINE ABOUT FIVE FEET OVER TO HAVE THE TOP OF BANK OUTSIDE OF OUR PROPERTY LINE YOU'LL SEE IT ALSO A RELOCATED TEN FOOT EASEMENT SO THE COUNTY CAN ACCESS THEIR POND TO DO MAINTENANCE ON THERE WE WANT THAT BE IN GOOD WORKING ORDER THAT'S A STORMWATER POND FOR THE PARKWAY SO WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN ACCESS AND KEEP IT IN GOOD WORKING ORDER SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY APPROVING TONIGHT THAT'S WHY IT'S SUCH A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY IS .072 ACRES.

IT'S JUST THOSE SLITHERS SO THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE THERE SO AGAIN I'VE TALKED TO LEGAL COUNSEL WELL AS THE INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR I HAVE NOT TALKED TO THE NEW ADMINISTRATOR. I'M MEETING WITH HIM THURSDAY BUT THEY ARE GOOD WITH ACCEPTING THIS. WE WOULD DO A QUICK CLAIM AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR COUNCIL AND ASK THEM TO RECEIVE THIS PROPERTY ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES FOR EVERYTHING WE'VE HEARD FROM THEM BETWEEN LEGAL AND ADMINISTRATOR IS THAT THEY SEE NO ISSUES WITH THEIR COUNCIL ACCEPTING THIS SO ONCE IT GOES TO THEM THEY WOULD JUST GO AND ACCEPT AND THEN RECORD THIS AS THEIR PROPERTY. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM NOT THERE IS A MOUTHFUL OF EMOTION HERE I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND THIS WOULD BE TO FIX THE DEED AND AS I JUST OUTLINED SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE THIS MOTION MAYOR DOES THIS PROCESS I MOVE APPROVE THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING CONVEYANCE OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO BE HER COUNTY LOCATED ADJACENT TO 140 BUCK ISLAND ROAD AND CONSISTING OF 0.072 ACRES MORE OR LESS AND IDENTIFIED AS A PORTION OF BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX MAP NUMBER ARE 61003100000030000 AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND RECORDING OF ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS I APPROVE ALL THOSE ZEROS. THE SECOND IN THE DISCUSSION ALL I WOULD SAY ARE BY UNANIMOUS AND AGAIN THIS WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL NEXT MONTH FOR SECOND READING VERY MUCH.

[X. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

ALL RIGHT IT'S A CONCERN ON AGENDAS. ANYBODY NEED TO PULL ANYTHING ON THE CONCERN AGAIN THERE DISCUSS ANYTHING GOOD THE CONSENT AGENDA MAYORS IS THERE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA SO I THINK IT AGAIN THE FIRST TO SAY SHE SAID OH OKAY NO QUESTIONS NO BENEFIT AT ALL IF I SAY I THAT'S UNANIMOUS. IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOVE ON

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

Jul 09, 2024 Bluffton Town Council

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