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GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE JUNE 15TH PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING.
CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER KRISTA.
ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE? WHERE'S KRISTA THERE YOU ARE.
ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FOYA? THANK YOU.
UH, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL HERE, MR. STANFORD HERE, MR. LENNOX IS HERE FOR FENDER, UH, AND MR. AMES, I'LL PRESENT, SIR.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR ADDITIONS, DELETIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THANK YOU, TOM APPEARANCE BY CITIZENS.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS US THIS MORNING, KRISTA? NO, SIR.
I DID NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP FOR TODAY.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTIONS OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING E-BIKES REGULATIONS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE MEETING? BRING US UP TO DATE? YES, I WOULD.
UM, MISSY LUECK, SENIOR PLANNER FOR I'M SORRY, PRINCIPAL PLANNER FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT E-BIKES AND, UM, THIS WAS BEFORE YOU, UH, RECENTLY AND I'LL JUST GO OVER WHAT HAS CHANGED TO WHAT I, OH, THERE WE GO.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU TODAY, IS THAT THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE REVIEW THE REVISED YOU BY COORDINATES IN FLORIDA RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL? I WILL.
UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO GO OVER SOME OF THE BACKGROUND AND, UM, PROGRESS I CAN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I'M ABLE TO SKIP TO THAT, WHAT HAS CHANGED.
SO, UM, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED SLIGHTLY SINCE IT WAS LAST BEFORE YOU, UM, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS SUMMARIZED HERE IN FOUR KEY POINTS.
UM, IT IS TO AMEND THE TOWN CODE TO DEFINE E-BIKES AND THAT THEY'RE PERMITTED ON TOWN PATHWAYS ALSO TO REQUIRE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE SAFETY AND ETIQUETTE DOCUMENT, UM, WHICH IS UP ON THE SCREEN AND HAS BEEN AMENDED TO, UM, OMIT, UH, THE 12 MILE PER HOUR REFERENCED, UH, SPEED LIMIT, UM, AS WELL AS REQUIRED LABEL, INDICATING THE HORSEPOWER AND MAXIMUM ASSISTED SPEED.
UM, AND THEN ALSO TO ESTABLISH AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM ALSO, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL ONGOING CONSIDERATIONS AND SOME CHANGES TO THOSE THAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.
UM, ONE IS TO CONSIDER ADDING PATHWAY CENTER LINES, STRIPES, AS WELL AS SOME ON PATHWAY CAUTIONARY GUIDANCE IN SOME OF OUR CONGESTED AREAS, UM, TO ADVANCE THE POPE AVENUE STREETSCAPE PROJECT AND THE UPCOMING CIP PLAN, UM, WHICH WOULD EXAMINE TRANSPORTATION AND PATHWAY RELATED ISSUES WITHIN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS PARTNERING WITH BIKE WALK AMBASSADOR PROGRAM TO EDUCATE AND PROMOTE SAFE BEHAVIOR AND ETIQUETTE, UM, STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR, UM, EQUIPMENT LIKE THE SCOOTERS WITHIN THE TOWN, BUT CURRENTLY MOTORIZED VEHICLES ARE PROHIBITED ON THE PATHWAYS AS WELL AS STAFF IS WORKING TO ACCELERATE A COMPLETE STREET CONCEPT FOR POPE AVENUE, WITH THE FOCUS ON THE SEGMENT FROM CORDELO TO COLIGNY CIRCLE.
UM, AND THOSE WOULD INCLUDE SOME SHORT-TERM AND LONG-TERM, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT WOULD MEET OR EXCEED ASH DOSE STANDARDS.
AND THERE WAS A CONCEPT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, UM, THAT SHOWED SOME SCHEMES AS EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD MEET OR EXCEED ASH DOE.
UM, AND ON THE PICTURE ON THIS SLIDE ARE JUST SOME SECTIONS OF OUR EXISTING PATHWAY THAT DO HAVE A CENTER LINE STRIPE AS THEY APPROACH INTERSECTIONS.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT WAS REALLY BRIEF AND QUICK, BUT IT'S FINE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES.
QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE? NO WORRIES.
WHEN MISSY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE, ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES IS ELIMINATING THE REQUIREMENT FOR SPEED GOVERNORS.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INVESTIGATION INTO THAT, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT THEY ARE FAR FROM FOOLPROOF, THAT THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO OVERCOME THEM.
UM, AND IT'S NOT PRACTICAL FOR US TO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT IN THERE, LET ALONE ENFORCEABLE, UH, WOULD YOU SAY WHAT I SAID IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT.
AND DO WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO FILL IN THE BLANKS A LITTLE BIT, UH, WHAT YOU STATED IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT? YES.
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TO MANIPULATE THE GOVERNORS, UM, ON THESE, THESE BIKES.UM, AND ALSO SPEED IS A DIFFICULT THING TO ENFORCE.
UM, IT'S HARD TO KNOW, EVEN SOMEONE ON A PEDAL BIKE, HOW FAST THEY'RE GOING IF THEY DON'T HAVE A SPIT ON HER.
SO, UM, ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.
UM, THE SAFETY NETIQUETTE DOCUMENT WAS EDITED THAT WE RECOMMEND THE SAFE SPEED.
UM, BUT A SPEED LIMIT IS NOT BEEN DESIGNATED.
ALSO, AS I UNDERSTAND, TO CREATE A SPEED LIMIT, IT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE.
UM, I THINK MR. GRUBER COULD SPEAK TO THAT MORE.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL SPEED LIMIT DRAFTED.
UM, I, FOR ONE REGRET THAT WE HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT THE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATIONS OUTWEIGH WHAT WE MIGHT DESIRE.
I THINK IN TERMS OF, UH, SPEED GOVERNOR.
UM, I AM ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT THE TOWN IS AS WE SPEAK IN THE PROCESS OF RETAINING SOME MORE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.
AND, UM, I AM HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME SPOTS, SPEED CHECKS, AND DANGEROUS DRIVING CHECKS, UM, ON OUR PATHWAYS AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS FOR A LONG TIME.
MY GOOD FRIEND, FRANK BACK THERE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE MANY TIMES.
CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT COMPLETE STREETS WOULD MEAN IN THAT COLIGNY AREA? WELL, CAN COMPLETE STREETS GENERALLY IS THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF ALL USERS ON A, ON A ROADWAY, INCLUDING PATHWAYS FOR PEOPLE, BIKES AND ALL EQUIPMENT THAT COULD BE USED.
UM, AND THE SCHEMATIC THAT WAS SHOWN FOR IT TO MEET OR EXCEED ASTO STANDARDS, WHICH IS A, A STANDARD FOR, UM, DESIGNING, UM, PUBLIC, UH, ROADWAYS, UM, IS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR BEST PRACTICES, UM, AND THAT WE WOULD EITHER MEET OR EXCEED THOSE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE FACILITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DESIGNED TO BE SAFE AND COMPLETE FOR ALL USERS OF THE SYSTEM.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN WIDER PATHWAYS FOR BICYCLES, INCLUDING EBIKES.
IT WOULD ALSO MEAN A SEPARATE PEDESTRIAN LANE.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS THAT CORRECT COULD MEAN, YES.
I MEAN, THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE EVALUATED.
IT MAY MEAN WIDER FACILITIES AND SEPARATED PATHWAYS.
UM, AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, THOSE WOULD BE, UH, FACILITIES THAT WOULD EXCEED ASHDOD STANDARDS.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
THANK YOU, MR. I MIGHT ADD TO YOUR ANSWER, YOUR COMMENT AND MISSY'S ANSWER.
UM, WHEN WE WERE DELIBERATING THIS, WE REALIZED THAT A SINGLE SPEED LIMIT FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND BIKE PATHS DIDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE BECAUSE IN SOME AREAS PROBABLY FASTER THAN 12 MILES AN HOUR, IT WOULD BE PURELY, PURELY ACCEPTABLE.
WHEREAS SOMETIMES ON POPE AVENUE WHERE THERE ARE HIGHER NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE BIKE PADS AT THE SAME TIME IN CURVED, UH, BIKE PATHS, THAT IT WOULD BE LOWER THAN THAT.
SO I THINK WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IF THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THIS REGARD, ARE THERE PUBLIC COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MISSY.
FRANK, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING I'M SURPRISED? FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THERE'S A SPECIAL PLACE IN HEAVEN FOR PEOPLE WHO RAISED TEENAGERS.
I'VE GOT THREE OF THEM AT HOME FOR A MONTH.
DO YOU REMEMBER, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY A THANK YOU FOR THE TOWN AND THE STAFF FOR THE FLEXIBILITY THEY'VE SHOWN WITH REGARD TO THIS MATTER.
IT'S COMPLICATED A LOT OF EMOTIONS ON EITHER SIDE AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S RIGHT OR WRONG.
IT'S E-BIKES ARE COMING, ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE COMING RIGHT OR WRONG, AND WE MIGHT AS WELL GET SOME EXPERIENCE WITH IT BEFORE IT BECOMES REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOMEDAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A KIND OF A BRIDGE DONE, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING OVER ON EBIKES TO COMMUTE HERE.
AND, UH, LET'S, LET'S FIGURE IT OUT NOW WHILE WE HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL.
SO TO SPEAK, UH, WITH REGARD TO WIDENING PATHWAYS, ENFORCEMENT, ALL THAT STUFF.
THE FUNDAMENTAL THING WE HAVE TO DO IS KIND OF FIX WHAT WE GOT.
WE DON'T HAVE MUCH IN THE WAY OF BEHAVIOR CONTROL OR PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW TO RIDE BIKES ON OUR PATHWAYS.
THESE ARE A HUNDRED DOLLAR BIKES.
IT'S THE EPITOME OF EQUITY TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND HUNDRED DOLLAR BIKES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND FAMILIES.
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WRITTEN THEM FOR 30 YEARS.THEY DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE ON THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT, AND IF THEY'RE WALKING AND THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHOULD BE WALKING AGAINST TRAFFIC OR WITH TRAFFIC.
AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS DECIDE OUR PATHWAYS ARE FOR RECREATIONAL RIDERS, PRIMARILY AND FOR COMMUTERS.
AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO START ORGANIZING THE WAY PEOPLE OPERATE ON OUR PATHWAYS.
AND IT SHOULD BE ON ONE SIDE, PEOPLE WALKING RIGHT ON ONE SIDE AND PEOPLE WALK ON ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER AND WE SHOULD BEGIN TO START MARKING UP OUR PATHWAYS WITH REGARD TO ENFORCEMENT.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY RELY ON SELF ENFORCEMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT THINGS LIKE SLOW SIGNS TO SAY HOW FAST PEOPLE SHOULD GO.
BECAUSE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW FAST THEY'RE GOING.
WE HAVE TO PUT SIGNS THAT SAY GO SLOW AND WE HAVE TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE CONDITIONS WE HAVE IN OUR PATHWAYS, WHERE WE HAVE LINE OF SIGHT ISSUES AND PEOPLE CRASH INTO EACH OTHER AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
AND I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK WITH THIS.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE AMBASSADORS.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH IT.
MISSY, THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW IS ABSOLUTELY FIRST RATE IN THE TOWN.
I GOT TO SAY THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND IT'S A JOY TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND IT'S A JOY TO WORK WITH YOU FOLKS TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE LISTENING.
BUT I THINK, UH, AS FAR AS THE AMBASSADORS GOING TO CONCERN, YOU KNOW, WE DID THIS ORIGINALLY EIGHT YEARS AGO, AS A WAY TO HELP PEOPLE FIND THEIR WAY AROUND BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET ON THESE BIKES AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.
THEY GOT ON A BIKE AND THEY START RIDING AROUND AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO AND WHAT TO DO.
AND SOMETIMES THEY FALL DOWN AND THEY NEED SOME HELP.
AND THE KID NEEDS A LITTLE BANDAID ON THE KNEE AND ALL THAT STUFF.
THEY DON'T COME UP AND TO GO TO PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST ACT COLLECTORS AND SAY, YOU'RE ACTING LIKE A JERK.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE THERE FOR.
THEY HAVEN'T DONE THAT BEFORE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE TRAINED TO DO.
THEY UNDERSTAND THE RULES, BUT THEY ARE NOT ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
THEY HAVE FAKE BASICALLY CONCIERGE SHOES.
THEIR JOB IS TO MAKE PEOPLE HAVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE OUT THERE TO GET TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO.
EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHERE THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO GO.
SO I WOULD TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE TO RETRAIN OUR AMBASSADORS.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT A HUNDRED OF THEM OUT THERE, VOLUNTEERING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT IT, BUT OTHERWISE I THINK WE'RE ON TRACK.
I COULD GO ON FOR A LONG TIME UP HERE, BUT YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, SOMEWHAT DRAWN SOME LINES FOR THE AMBASSADORS VERSUS, UM, ENFORCEMENT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO ABSORB AND DIGEST THAT, UM, THESE ARE MERELY VOLUNTEERS, UM, AND WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE ISSUES ON OUR PATHWAYS THAT MAY NEED A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT MORE TEETH INTO THE SITUATION.
BUT AS FAR AS THE AMBASSADORS ARE CONCERNED, CAN YOU HELP ME A BIT, FRANK, I'M CURIOUS AS TO, UM, HOW THEIR COMMUNICATIONS OF ISSUES GET BACK TO THE TOWN.
OH, UH, W WE HAVE, UH, THE BASADUR IS ORGANIZED INTO A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE BIKE WALK THAT ISLAND, UM, YOU KNOW, GROUP.
AND SO, UH, THEY, WHAT WE DO IS WE ASK THEM, UH, TO, UH, BE THE EYES FOR THE TOWN WHEN THEY SEE THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE BAD, LIKE, UH, MAINTENANCE ISSUES OR PROBLEMS OR THINGS THAT THEY THINK ARE DANGEROUS, THEY REPORT IT UP TO THEIR GOVERNING COMMITTEE, WHICH REPORTS IT THROUGH A MEMBER OF OUR BIKE WALK COMMITTEE.
AND WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND WE GIVE IT TO THE TOWN.
UH, WE ALSO, UH, UH, I MEAN, AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY COMING UP WITH IDEAS AND IN FACT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE RIGHT NOW, SOME OF THE MEN, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE UNDERWAY TO REMEDY SOME, UH, SOME SAFETY ISSUES WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE AMBASSADORS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON BEACH CITY ROAD COMING OUT OF, UH, OF THE, OF THE FORT HOWL.
THAT'S A VERY D WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CRASHES THERE, AND THAT WAS, UH, AMBASSADORS BROUGHT THAT UP AND SAID, THAT'S A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE.
AND NOW IT'S BEING, IT'S BEING REMEDIED.
SO THEY, THEY, THEY COME UP THROUGH IT, BUT THERE ISN'T ANY OFFICIAL THING.
W W WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH THE FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PEOPLE IN THE, IN, IN WHAT WE DO WITH OUR PATHWAYS RIGHT NOW, WE SEE THINGS.
AND THEN WE REPORT A PROBLEM THROUGH, FIX IT, FIX CLICK.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE OUGHT TO HAVE THE, UH, WE OUGHT TO HAVE THE, UH, FACILITIES MANAGEMENT PEOPLE SITTING WITH US.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS THAT WE SEE IN THE PATHWAYS THAT COMMUNICATE THAT WITH THE TOWN, THAT'S A CHANGE WE OUGHT TO MAKE WE THINK.
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DON'T KNOW IF I'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION ALREADY.UM, AS FAR AS THE, THE NUMBER OF AMBASSADORS, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS TO COVER THE ENTIRE ISLAND? WELL, IT'S A VOLUNTEER CORPS AND YOU KNOW, WHO PAYS FOR, WHO PAYS FOR THE AMBASSADORS? I THOUGHT THEY WERE VOLUNTEERS PAID ME.
I GAVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO A BIKE WALK TO PAY FOR THE AMBASSADORS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE MEMBERSHIP.
WE ASK PEOPLE FOR DONATIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT A, WE'RE NOT A MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION.
WE DON'T GO AND SOLICIT FUNDS.
I JUST THROW A GRAND OUT FOR MY KIDS INHERITANCE, UH, AND, UH, THAT'S IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE PAY FOR IT.
AND THAT ABOUT COVERS OUR EXPENSE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE DO, AND, UH, WE SOMEHOW KIND OF MAKE IT, BUT WE DON'T GO TO THE TOWN AND WE DON'T ASK YOU FOR MONEY.
IS THAT OKAY, ALEX? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING FOR HIM.
YOU DO TEE THIS THING UP AND YOU WANT US TO DO MORE.
WE'LL DO MORE, BUT I HAVE TO PAY US FOR IT.
UM, AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
YOU KNOW, THE POINT THAT I'M, UM, ASKING, UH, FRANK TO HELP US MAKE IT IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THESE PATHWAYS, AND NOW WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE WE KNOW WE NEED TO DO BETTER, AND I APPRECIATE THE VOLUNTEERISM.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING ON THE RESPONSIBILITY AND NOW TRYING TO ENHANCE THAT.
BUT LONG STORY SHORT, IT IS THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY.
UM, AND THE REASON I ASKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS, BECAUSE, UM, UH, QUITE OFTEN YOU NEED FRESH EYES ON SITUATIONS.
AND IF SOMEBODY IS WALKING OR RIDING IN A PARTICULAR AREA ALL THE TIME, THEY MAY START TO GET USED TO THE SURROUNDINGS AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND NOT NECESSARILY SEE THINGS THAT MAY NEED TO BE FIXED.
SO, UM, I JUST ASKED FRANK, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH FACILITIES, UH, WHATEVER REPORT BACK THAT YOU CAN SEND TO US THROUGH STAFF FROM YOUR COMMITTEE WILL HELP US AS WE MAKE BUDGETARY DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND KEEP THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN.
I THINK WE'LL GET TO A BETTER PLACE ALONG THE WAY.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM HERE IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE CARS.
WE HAVE TOO MANY CARS THAT GO TOO FAST AND THEY KILL PEOPLE.
WE GOT TO FIX THAT FIRST AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL FALL IN PLACE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MATTER BEFORE THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE SEEING NONE, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DIOCESE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL, THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED MR. CHAIR? I WOULD MOVE THAT THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL, THE ADOPTION OF THE E-BIKE ORDINANCE AS AMENDED.
IS THERE A SECOND? THANK YOU, KRISTA.
WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? YES, SIR.
MR. BROWN SUPPORT, MR. STANFORD, MR. LENNOX, MR. AMES MOTION CARRIES MOTION PASSES, UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, UM, I'D LIKE TO PIGGY BACK ON SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION AND THAT FRANK BROUGHT UP MISSY.
UM, I'M ENCOURAGED THAT THERE IS A LENGTHY PARAGRAPH IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT SPEAKS TO, UM, UH, A STUDY, UH, OR A, UH, INQUIRY ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE IN THE POPE AVENUE CORRIDOR.
I'D LIKE TO EXPAND THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH CORRIDOR OR PALMETTO BAY ROAD, C PINE CIRCLE, POPE AVENUE TO CORDELO AND CORDELO TO THE BEACH ARE THREE SEGMENTS OF AN EXPERIENCE.
AND EACH ONE HAS AN INCREASING DEMAND BY PEDESTRIANS, BIKES AND OTHER THINGS HAPPENING.
PALMETTO BAY AT THIS POINT IS LARGELY AUTOMOBILE.
YOU GET INTO SEA PINE CIRCLE TO CORDELO AND YOU'RE BEGINNING TO HAVE CONFLICTS AT A HIGHER RATE.
AND THEN CERTAINLY WHEN YOU GO BEYOND CORDELO TO SEA PINES, YOU HAVE PEDESTRIANS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
UM, I THINK THE TOWN NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THE EXPERIENCES
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OF PEOPLE IN THOSE THREE SEGMENTS AND PA AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY.AND I'M REALLY ASKING THE QUESTION, DO WE GET TO A POINT FROM CORDELO TO SEE PINE TO, UH, THE BEACH WHERE PEDESTRIAN BIKES AND ALL SORTS OF NON CARS HAVE THE PRIORITY THAT WE ACTUALLY BEGIN TO DESIGN A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR CARS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RESPOND IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO THAT, UM, SYSTEM.
UM, SO I, I THINK THAT, UH, IF, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I WOULD REQUEST THAT IN THE JULY MEETING THAT YOU PUMP THAT YOU, UH, PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, SORT OF THE WAY STAFF IS GOING TO APPROACH THAT STUDY, THAT YOU REFERENCED IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT EXPANDED TO THE EXTENT THAT IT RECOGNIZES THE EXPERIENCE FROM THE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH, WITH EMPHASIS ON THE POPE AVENUE CORRIDOR, AND PERHAPS AS A REALLY STARTING POINT CORDELA TO THE BEACH.
ONE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD, UH, AND THIS PIGGYBACKS ON WHAT MR. BROWN WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, WHO IS LOOKING AFTER THE BYPASS, UM, WITHIN THE TOWN.
AND, AND I THINK THE BIKE PATHS ARE JUST ANOTHER FACILITY THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN AND TO OVERSEE.
SO I'M WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT UNDER AARON BLACK'S PURVIEW, WE SHOULD BEGIN TO CONSIDER BYPASS AS A FACILITY, AND MAYBE IT ALREADY HAS.
I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT, UH, THAT'S A SUGGESTION.
UM, I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP, UH, TWO MEETINGS AGO, WE WERE, UM, ASKING PALMETTO BREEZE TO PRESENT INNOVATIVE VEHICLES SOLUTIONS.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER THAT THE COMMITTEE CAME OUT WITH ANY SUGGESTION AT THAT POINT, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE EXPERIENCE OF MOVING IN THE CORRIDOR THAT WE WERE JUST REFERENCING CAN BE ENHANCED IF WE HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF VEHICLE MOVING PEOPLE.
I THINK THE SHUTTLE SERVES ONE KIND OF PURPOSE, MOVING PEOPLE FROM COLIGNY, PERHAPS TO SHELTER COVE, BUT IT ISN'T THE SAME KIND OF EXPERIENCE THAT MOVES PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MOVE FROM COLIGNY TO, UM, SEE PAWNS.
AND, AND SO I THINK THAT, UH, S STAFF SHOULD EITHER BE COMMUNICATING WITH PALMETTO BREEZE TO ADVANCE THAT CONVERSATION OR STAFF OUT TO BECOMING, TO PUBLIC PLANNING, SUGGESTING WAYS OF LOOKING AT SOLVING THAT KIND OF A OPPORTUNITY, UH, ADDRESSING THAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITY.
I HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS FROM SOME CONSTITUENTS THAT THERE IS A PROLIFERATION OF TIMESHARE GOLF CARTS MO ROAMING AROUND THAT CORNER DOOR.
THAT IS AN ANTITHESIS ANTITHESIS TO OUR BRAND IF IT GETS OUT OF CONTROL.
AND SO I REALLY AM WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE TOWN TO BEGIN LOOKING AT EITHER THROUGH PALMETTO BREEZE OR ITS OWN AUSPICES OF ADVANCING A MORE BRAND SYMPATHETIC SOLUTION TO MOVING PEOPLE IN THE CORRIDOR.
ALEX, CAN I, UM, JUST ADD TO YOUR COMMENTS THEY HAVE AS THE CHAIRMAN, UM, AS FAR AS THE POMONA BREEZE IS CONCERNED, UM, THIS IS NO MEANS A METRIC, BUT JUST FROM MY VISUAL, AS I SEE THE TROLLEYS GOING AROUND, IT'S, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE RIDING THEM.
UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE, UH, WE'VE GOTTEN A REPORT BACK FROM MARY LOU ABOUT, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH SEA PONS BEING SOMEWHAT STAGNANT.
AND, UM, I ALSO CAN SEE FROM A VISUAL, THIS IS A TRUE METRIC THAT, UH, BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 11 AND TWO COUNCILMAN LENNOX, UH, COMING OUT OF SEA PALMS INTO C5 CIRCLE IS ALWAYS A MESS, RIGHT.
UM, SO THE, THE INTENT OF US GOING IN DIRECTION OF TRYING TO GET, UH, MORE CARS OFF OF THE ROAD, AND I KNOW THAT C PINES, AS WELL AS, UH, SOUTH BEACH HAVE, UH, IMPLEMENTED A MORE ROBUST TROLLEY SYSTEM, NOT JUST FOR VISITORS, BUT ALSO FOR EMPLOYEES.
UM, SO IT, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT
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NATURALLY WE SHOULD BE PLANNING TO CONNECT THOSE SERVICES OUTSIDE OF THE GATE SOMEHOW.UM, SO ANY WAY THAT THE TOWN CAN HELP FACILITATE OR MEDIATE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I THINK WE SHOULD GET MORE HEAVILY INVOLVED, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH,
AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE THINKING DOWN THE ROAD WITH SOME ALTERNATIVES TO, TO MAKE IT BETTER.
UM, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE? NOT ABOUT THAT? I HAVE A SEPARATE COMMENT.
UM, WE ARE ALL HEARING MORE AND MORE ABOUT UNCONTROLLED EXPLOSIVE GROWTH ON THIS ISLAND AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE HEARING WERE VIRTUALLY BUILT OUT.
UM, THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THE TOWN HAS US INVESTIGATING THIS SUBJECT IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
BUT I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO JUST BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT WHAT SORT OF TOOLS WE MIGHT USE TO CONTROL GROWTH.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE KIND OF A HODGEPODGE, FRANKLY, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO OVERCOME THAT.
UH, I HAVE ASKED JOSH TO PROVIDE ME WHEN HE HAS SOME TIME WITH SOME OF THE LEGAL PRECEDENTS THAT APPLY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, DEALING WITH THIS.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING HERE TODAY, ALTHOUGH IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD, UH, I AM SUGGESTING THAT WE ALL NEED TO START TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT US AND HOW WE MIGHT IMPLEMENT THIS SUBJECT.
UM, SO THIS IS A CHALLENGE THAT'S BEFORE ALL OF US, IT IS A PROBLEM THAT WE NEED TO FACE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO CHOKE ON OUR OWN GROWTH HERE.
UM, AND SO MANAGING GROWTH IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING IN A FREE SOCIETY, BUT IT HAS BEEN DONE AND IT HAS BEEN DONE SUCCESSFULLY.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS TOWN WITH THE SUPPORT OF OUR VERY PROFESSIONAL STAFF CAN COME UP WITH SOME CREATIVE IDEAS ON HOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. STANFORD, MISSY.
UM, LET'S ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH, JUST A PR UH, IF YOU WOULD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. COLEMAN.
CHAIRMAN NAMES, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, SEAN COLON, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
UM, I WAS PLANNING TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS, BUT WHEN I THINK IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, UH, WE HAVE, UM, A LIST OF LMO OR CONSIDERATIONS FOR POTENTIAL LMO CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS.
UM, SOME OF THOSE HAVE COME, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH APPLICANTS OR, UH, REACTING TO SOME, UH, SOME CHANGES AND DEVELOPMENT PROCEDURES, REALLY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
SOME HAVE COME FROM THE GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE AND, UH, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE DESIGN STUDIO.
UM, THE FAMILY COMPOUND WITH SUBDIVISION WHILE I THINK MO UH, THE INTENT IS BEING MAD THERE, SOME, SOME, UH, UH, MODIFICATIONS THAT WOULD HELP US BE MORE EFFECTIVE AND IMPLEMENTING THOSE PROVISIONS.
UM, AND SO THE PLAN IS TO BRING FORWARD TO COMMITTEE THIS INITIAL LIST FOR AGAIN, PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO MOVE FORWARD.
THOSE, UM, MOST CRITICAL AMENDMENTS, IT'S A PRETTY LONG LIST, UM, AND WE'RE OVERDUE.
AND SO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE PRIORITIZES WITH THE STAFF TEAM, UM, TO DEVELOP THE LIST.
WE NEED TO FINALIZE IT, BUT WE'LL BRING FORWARD TO THE, UH, THIS COMMITTEE NEXT MONTH.
UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO ACCELERATE THE WORK AROUND THE MID ISLAND REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A L IT'S REALLY GOOD AT THE CONCEPT LEVEL, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GET INTO FUTURE LAND USE SO THAT WE CAN THEN GET INTO THE CODING TO IMPLEMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE THINKING ALL ALONG WAS THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST DISTRICT.
AND THEN WE WOULD REPEAT THAT IN A FEW OTHER DISTRICTS.
UM, WE'RE HAVING THIS EXISTING TRENDS AND CONDITIONS TO HELP OUTLINE THE GROWTH FRAMEWORK AND MASTER PLAN.
UM, AND SO I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, UH, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE, UH, WE WILL BEGIN TO ADVANCE, UH, THAT NEXT MONTH AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ON BOTH OF THOSE FRONTS, UH, WITH YOU.
AND I THINK IT'LL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS, UM, AND AT LEAST TIMEFRAME.
UM, LET'S START THE DISCUSSION, RIGHT? THE FIRST STEP IS USUALLY THE HARDEST.
LET'S GET THAT FIRST STEP WITH YOU.
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE AHEAD OF US AGAIN, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I'M ALSO NOT SURPRISED.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS LI THIS LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS AND, UH, THIS COMMUNITY WILL START TO WORK ON THEM PROPERLY.
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YEAH.I WANT TO MAKE A REQUEST THAT COULD YOU SEND TO THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, THAT LIST AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT WE'LL BE DEALING.
AND I TALKED WITH THE TOWN MANAGER, UM, THIS MORNING, WHILE HE'S ON VACATION.
UM, SO I WANT TO VET IT WITH HIM AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A LIST THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE SHARING WITH COMMITTEE THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION.
I HAVE THAT MEETING NEXT WEEK, SO WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT OUT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
AND THEN ON ANOTHER, UH, UH, ANOTHER COMMENT BASED ON SOME SUGGESTION, UM, PATHWAYS, WE DO TREAT AS A SYSTEM, UM, BUT WE'VE HAD MEETINGS IN THE LAST WEEK AND I THINK THERE'S TAYLOR.
SO, UM, I'VE, I'VE TALKED WITH ERIN AND JENNIFER, AND THEY'VE COORDINATED A WAY TO, UM, SYSTEMICALLY EVALUATE PATHWAYS WHERE REPAIRS ARE NEEDED, WHERE MAINTENANCE IS NEEDED, WHERE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED.
AND I BELIEVE I HEARD YESTERDAY WITHOUT GETTING TOO MUCH IN THE DETAIL THAT TAYLOR IS WORKING WITH GIS TO SET UP A DASHBOARD, UM, THAT WILL ALLOW US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE WHOLE SYSTEM, UM, INCLUDING THE PINS WHERE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE ALL THESE IDEAS.
SO, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE.
UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THOSE ISSUES AND BE ABLE TO REPORT AND ILLUSTRATE TO THE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND SO, YES, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THAT.
UM, WE'RE ALSO GONNA DO THE SAME THING WITH ROADS, TOWN, COUNTY, AND STATE ROADS WHERE REPAIRS ARE NEEDED, ENHANCEMENTS ARE NEEDED, UM, AND MAP THAT OUT AS A SYSTEM AND HAVE A REGULAR, UH, UM, UH, INVENTORY AND ASSESSMENT DONE BY STAFF, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT REACTING TO WHEN WE GET A COMPLAINT WHERE, UM, PROACTIVELY MANAGING THOSE SYSTEMS AND IDENTIFYING OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE IT, UM, BEFORE THEY BECOME BIGGER ISSUES.
OKAY, SEAN, I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AND SAYING, THANK YOU FOR GETTING AHEAD OF US ON THIS.
UH, IT'S AN EXCELLENT EFFORT ON YOUR PART AND WILL BEAR FRUIT.
WELL, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT AT AN UPCOMING COMMITTEE MEETING THE PROGRESS PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING.
SO MAYBE IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU TO SHARE.
THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE.