[VII.1. 101 Windrush Lane (Certificate of Appropriateness-HCO): A request by Andrew Jacobs of Miller Electric Company, on behalf of the Owner, Bank of America, for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness - Highway Corridor Overlay. The project consists of improvements to the exterior lighting for the site. The property is zoned General Mixed Use and identified by tax map number R610 031 000 0722 0000, located to the southeast of the Baylor Drive and US Highway 278/Fording Island Road intersection. (COFA-06-21-015520) (Staff- Katie Peterson)]

OF THE MILLER ELECTRIC COMPANY ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER BANK OF AMERICA FOR APPROVAL OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HCR D THE PROJECT CONSISTENT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR

LIGHTING FOR THE SITE. >> THE PROPERTY IS OWNED GENERAL MIXED USE AND IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MAP NUMBER IN YOUR POCKET LOCATED TO THE SOUTHEAST OF BAYLOR

DRIVE AND U.S. HIGHWAY 278 FORTY ISLAND ROAD K I THINK. >> WE CAN.

MY SUGGESTION IS WE CAN WAIT AND WAIT. NOW THE AGENT SHOWS YEAH.

>> DO I NEED TO VOTE TO MOVE IT DOWN ON THAT? YES WE WOULD MOST MOTION TO

MOVE. >> AGENDA ITEM 1. LET'S SAY AFTER AGENDA ITEM 3 NEW BUSINESS. I MEAN NUMBER THREE. OK, SO MOVED ANY DISCUSSION?

OH. >> GET INTO TO NUMBER TWO SIX HOURLY WAY.

[VII.2. 6 Arley Way (Preliminary Development Plan): A request by Ceagull Investments, LLC for the approval of a Preliminary Development Plan. The project consists of the construction of a 13,736 square foot medical office building and associated infrastructure in Westbury Park. The property is zoned General Mixed Use and consists of 2 acres identified by tax map number R610 031 000 0217 0000. (DP-05-21-015352) (Staff – Will Howard)]

PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN A REQUEST BY SINGLE INVESTMENTS FOR THE APPROVAL OF OUR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF A THIRTEEN THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED THIRTY SIX SQUARE FOOT MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AN ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE IN WESTBURY PARK. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED GENOMICS

USE AND CONSISTS OF TWO ACRES. >> THANK YOU. I HAD TO RECUSE MYSELF IN THIS

RECUSING HERSELF. >> SO AS AMANDA SAID THIS IS FOR PULMONARY DEVELOPMENT PLANNED FOR PROPERTY AT SIX ALREADY AWAY WHEN I SHOW YOU THIS SITE.

BOTH OF YOU WILL BE FAMILIAR. ALL BUT TWO OF YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY APPROVED THIS PLAN OR YOU APPROVED A PLAN FOR THIS PARCEL IN JANUARY SINCE JANUARY THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD A CHANGE OF USE WHICH REQUIRED A DIFFERENT FOOTPRINT FOR THE BUILDING AND THE SITE LAYOUT FOR PARKING. AND IT CHANGED ENOUGH THAT WE FELT THEY NEEDED TO SUBMIT A NEW PLAN AND BRING IT BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. SO JUST TO RE FAMILIARIZE YOU. THIS IS THE PROJECT SITE HERE IN OFF OF ARLIE WAY. THIS IS THE WESTBURY PARK DEVELOPMENT AND IT BACKS UP TO AND IT'S PART OF AN EXISTING PARCEL ALTHOUGH UNDEVELOPED NOW AS PART OF THE EXISTING ASBURY PARK COMMERCIAL AREA THAT WAS PLANNED AND BEGAN CONSTRUCTION UNDER B FOR COUNTY PURVIEW AND

THEN WAS LATER ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN OF BOSTON. >> SO HERE IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE LOT. THIS IS FOR AN AMBULATORY SURGERY CENTER.

SO THEY'VE PROVIDED A LET'S ACCESS DROP OFF LANE IF YOU WILL, UP TOP HERE.

PARKING IN THE REAR AND THEY'RE STILL MAINTAINING THERE'S STILL A VERY HEAVILY VEGETATED BERM THAT SEPARATES THE PROPERTY FROM THE WESTBURY PARK RESIDENTIAL USE BUT ALSO THE

LANDSCAPE PLAN. >> THIS IS CONCEPTUAL BUT ALTHOUGH IT IS PRETTY DETAILED THEY DID PROVIDE A PLANT SCHEDULED ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NOT TECHNICALLY REVIEWING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AT THE PRELIMINARY STAGE OF THE PROCESS WE LIKE TO PROVIDE IT FOR YOU TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE HAVE EVERY INTENT AND ONGOING TO MEET THE LANDSCAPE REQUIRED OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. THIS DOES FALL UNDER THE

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UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT AUDIT SOME SORRY IS THIS IS JOAN GENERAL MIXED USE THEY HAVE BITING SOME ADJACENT USE BUFFERING IF YOU WILL UP TOP. I BELIEVE THESE IF MEMORY SERVES OR EVEN HOLLY'S AND SOME BURNHAM I NEVER NOTICED THEM BACK HERE.

SAME THING ON THE OTHER SIDE. LIVE OAKS IN THE PARKING LOT IN FOUNDATION PLANNING'S ALL

AROUND. >> ALREADY COVERED WHERE THIS LIES AGAIN WE ORIGINALLY THE

DAY HERE FROM DECEMBER 9TH. >> THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL I'M SORRY.

ORIGINAL DRC REVIEW BUT WE ACTUALLY JUST PROVIDED COMMENTS FOR THIS BACK IN THE FIRST FIRST OF JULY FIRST WEEK OF JULY AND THE DRC APPROVE THE PLAN WITHOUT COMMENT.

>> AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR, THERE ARE SIX SEPARATE CRITERIA FOR WHICH YOU WOULD REVIEW AND

APPROVE THE PLAN. >> I CAN GO THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUALLY IF NEEDED.

THEY WERE ALL INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET YOUR ACTION TONIGHT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION AS IT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT PROVE PROVE IT WITH CONDITIONS YOU COULD TABLE THE APPLICATION AND REQUEST FOR INFORMATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS IT WAS

SUBMITTED. >> HALF RECOMMENDS THE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION BE

APPROVED AS SUBMITTED. >> I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE ALSO HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER

AND ENGINEER RECORD OR HERE AS IF YOU HAD ANY ANYTHING. >> YOU GUYS LIKE TO SAY EARNING

THE PROJECT PRETTY. >> I JUST HAVE ONE AND I'M SURE IT'S FOREGONE BUT I WANT TO ASK

IT ANYWAYS. >> ACCESS FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY

DEVELOPED THAT IS THERE'S NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT. >> IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY DOES IT SLOW IT SHOW IT. BUT IF I GO BACK TO THE SATELLITE YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY THIS PARKING THAT ABUTS IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

>> THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PULL THEIR DRIVEWAY FROM HERE. THERE'S ALREADY A CURB CUT FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OVER HERE THAT I THINK OFFICE OVER HERE. PATIENT PROPERTY? YEAH. SO THE APPLICANT OWNER ACTUALLY OWNS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AS WELL. SO ALL THE ACCESS TO ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALL IN PLACE

AND NO NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. >> I MEAN OBVIOUSLY HE WOULDN'T GET TO HIMSELF BUT I'M TALKING LIKE WHEN WESTBROOK PARK. NO NO AND AGAIN LIKE YOU SAID, THIS WAS ACTUALLY A PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR A 12000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN PARKING WAS ACTUALLY ALREADY APPROVED IN JANUARY. IT'S JUST THAT SINCE THEY HAD TO KIND OF ROTATE THEIR BUILDING AND RECONFIGURE THEIR PARKING, IT WAS ENOUGH OF A

CHANGE THAT IT REQUIRED A NEW PLAN. >> WASN'T SERVICE HERE IN THE

BACK ORIGINALLY AND NOW IT'S NOT. >> YEAH, THERE WAS.

IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A LAY DOWN YARD. MAYBE SOME FLEET PARKING AT

FLEET VEHICLES IF I REMEMBER ENDING UP. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I KNOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD HONOR OR WE CAN USE AS PART OF OUR BUT BUT YOU SAID IT WAS A NOW AMBULATORY LIKE. WHAT KIND OF AMBULATORY SURGERY CENTER? SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE LIKE YOU SAID FOR AMBULANCES DROP OFF BUT IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE SIRENS OR ANYTHING. IT'S JUST TRANSPORT LIKE A TRANSPORT GO STRAIGHT TO THAT.

I'M JUST THINKING OF WESTBURY PARK IN THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. JOE FRASER SEAGULL INVESTMENTS. HE'S ACTUALLY A OF INTO ALLERGY CLINIC AND THE TOWARD SURGERY CENTER. BUT THIS IS BASICALLY OUTPATIENT SURGERY SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE AMULETS AND SIRENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT COMING. I JUST WANT THAT ON THE RECORD TO MAKE SURE.

ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION JUST ON ACCESS. THIS PARCEL WILL ALSO HAVE AN INGRESS, EGRESS AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT ACROSS THE DRIVE COMING IN FROM THE OTHER SIDE SO IT'LL BE ACCESS LEGAL ACCESS FROM BOTH SIDES. THANK YOU.

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>> EMOTIONAL. >> AS A FAVOR I OPPOSE. RIGHT.

THANK YOU. WAITING TO MOVE ON TO 6 EARLY WAY FOR A PRELIMINARY

DEVELOPMENT PLAN. >> THAT WAS ALL IN CAROLINA NEXT.

[VII.3. Old Carolina PUD Comprehensive Plan Amendment (PLANNING WORKSHOP): The Applicant is requesting approval of an Amendment to Town of Bluffton Comprehensive Plan to amend the Future Land Use Map for the subject parcel to change the future land use from “Medium Density Residential” to “High Density Residential”. The +/- 15.52 parcel is identified by Beaufort County Tax Map Number R610 031 000 0003 0000 and is located on the southwest corner of the intersection of Buck Island Road and Bluffton Parkway. (ZONE-12-20-014851) (Staff – Kevin Icard)]

>> OH. CAROLINA PD COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CONFERENCE PLAN TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE SUBJECT PERSONAL CHANGE OF FUTURE LAND USE FROM MEDIUM DENSITY TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THE FIFTEEN POINT FIVE TWO PARCEL IS IDENTIFIED BY THE TEXT MAP NUMBER IN YOUR PACKET AND KEVIN WILL WHAT'S ALL ABOUT IT?

>> KATHLEEN DO YOU NEED TO RECUSE? >> I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF.

THANK YOU. DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT FROM UP HERE.

>> YOU NEED TO COME OUT OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. AS YOU STATED, THIS IS A

WORKSHOP SO THERE IS NO VOTE ON THIS ITEM. >> IT'S FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES . WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS KIND OF RUN THROUGH MY PRESENTATION VERY, VERY BRIEFLY AND THEN BRING THE APPLICANT UP AND THEN ALLOW FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A DISCUSSION AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH ANY OF THIS SPECIFIC SLIDES AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING THEY'LL BE UP HERE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM.

AND THEN FROM THERE WHICH DISCUSS THE NEXT STEPS. SO AS I STATED, THIS IS THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT JAY CUTLER ASSOCIATES ON BEHALF OF THE BAR BLUFFTON.

THIS IS FOR REQUESTING AN APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING MAP. SO THIS EVENING WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING MAP. AND THEN I'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL ON THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE. AS YOU STATED AS THE FIVE FIFTEEN POINT FIVE TWO ACRES IT'S LOCATED THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF BUCK ISLAND ROAD AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY. SO SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMMUNITY CONSISTING OF ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS, THE ASSOCIATED PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE AND AMENITIES CONSIST OF ONE, TWO, THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS RANGING IN BETWEEN SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR AND 14 16 SQUARE FEET SIZE APPROXIMATELY. THERE'S FIVE THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS WITH ANTICIPATED FINAL SITE DESIGN A LAYOUT WHICH IS YET TO BE COMPLETED. AND THEN FROM A PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS THERE IS A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AND THE DID RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE AT THE JULY 7TH MEETING AND THOSE COMMENTS WERE PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE PACKET. JUST REAL QUICKLY, THIS IS A SCHEMATIC OF THE SITE PLAN AND I'VE GOT SOME AERIALS HERE TO ASSIST WITH YOU. BUCK ISLAND ROAD IS HERE.

BLUFFTON PARKWAY ARCHES AROUND THE SITE AND YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS BUILDINGS THERE.

TWO LARGER ONES HERE AND THEN THREE SMALLER THAN THE THIS IS AN IMAGE CONCEPTUAL IMAGE

OF THE MARSHALL PLAN. >> AGAIN, THIS IS GOING INTO THE OLD CAROLINA PD.

WHILE IT'S RATHER SMALL AND I'M TRYING TO ZOOM IN ON IT HERE AREA RIGHT HERE REPRESENTS WHERE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO BE INCLUDED INTO THE OLD CAROLINA PD.

>> SO AS I STATED, THERE'S CONCURRENT APPLICATIONS WITH THIS REQUEST.

>> SO WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THAT'S TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THAT THAT USE FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THERE'S ASSOCIATED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT SO THAT'S TO CHANGE THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FROM THE RESIDENTIAL GENERAL WHICH IS REGULATED BY THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE TO THE OLD CAROLINA PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS A PD TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE OLD CAROLINE D DOCUMENT AND THAT'S TO AMEND THE SECTION THAT'S LISTED ON THE SCREEN OF WHAT WAS THE BLUFFTON ZONING ORDINANCES BUT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PD DOCUMENTS SO BEAR WITH ME HERE. AND THAT'S TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS PER MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WHICH IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED AT 20 UNITS PER BUILDING TO EIGHTY SIX UNITS PER BUILDING THAT ALSO REQUEST TO AMEND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE TWO PARKING SPACES PER TWO SPACES PER ONE AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS

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AND THEN 2.5 SPACES FOR THREE BEDROOM UNITS TO ALLOW FOR A OVERALL ONE POINT NINE TWO SPACES PER UNIT REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. AND THEN THE MASTERPLAN AMENDMENT WHICH IS TO AMEND THE OLD CAROLINA BEAUTY MASTERPLAN TO INCLUDE THIS PARTIAL INTO THAT PD AS A NEW PLANNING TRACT. NOW A LITTLE ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION OLD CAROLINA DOES NOT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT SIMILAR TO PALMETTO BLUFF THE BACKWATER TRACT JONES ESTATE ALL HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE THE ASSOCIATED DWELLING UNITS ACREAGE THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT. SO THIS IS A PD THAT DOES NOT HAVE THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATING AND DEVELOPING AGREEMENT OR AMENDING IT. SO DURING THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING AND AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THIS JUST CONSIDER THAT THERE ARE CRITERIA WHEN WHEN MOVING FORWARD ULTIMATELY THIS WILL COME TO A PUBLIC HEARING MOST LIKELY IN SEPTEMBER. THAT'S TWO MONTHS AWAY. GIVES US TIME TO DO THE PROPER NOTIFICATION. BUT SOME OF THESE AND JUST QUICKLY IS CONSISTENCY WITH THE INTENT OF THE OVERALL POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN? CONSISTENCY, DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES, THE ECONOMIC TRENDS. IT'S IF APPLICABLE THE ABILITY FOR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES APPROPRIATE AND EFFICIENT USE OF THE PUBLIC FUNDS FUTURE GROWTH DEVELOPMENT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA ENHANCEMENT OF THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE TOWN.

>> CONSISTENCY WITH SOUTH CAROLINA PLANNING LAW IMPACTS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT ON THE PROVISIONS OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND THE APPLICATION COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPLICATION MANUAL. SO THAT'S WHAT THE COMP PLAN

AMENDMENT FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. >> THESE ARE ALSO CRITERIA YOU SHOULD BE CONSIDERING WHEN YOU'RE REVIEWING THIS DOCUMENT WHICH IS THE CONSISTENCY WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR IF CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ADOPTED. CONSISTENCY WITH THE OVERALL INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CAPABILITY OF THE SITES FISCAL GEOLOGICAL HYDROLOGICAL, OTHER ENVIRONMENT FOR TREES FEATURES TO SUPPORT THE BROTHER AND INTENSITY OF USES COMPATIBILITY WITH ALL POTENTIAL USES ALLOWED IN THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WITH SURROUNDING USES CAPACITY OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES TO SUFFICIENTLY ACCOMMODATE THE USES THE PUBLIC NEED FOR THE POTENTIAL USES PERMITTED REQUESTED ZONING DISTRICT AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS THE APPLICATION MANUAL NO FOR MY LOCATION STANDPOINT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE PROPERTY HERE AND RED THAT'S AT THE CORNER BUCK ISLAND ROAD BLUFFTON PARKWAY ACROSS FROM EAGLES FIELD IN WHICH IT IS ADJACENT TO THE OLD CAROLINA PD LIST.

>> FROM AN AERIAL STANDPOINT YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY LOCATED HERE ALONG THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY FROM THE EPD MAP AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PURPLE COLOR IS THE OLD CAROLINA PD

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. >> YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS DESIGNATED AS THAT MEDIUM

DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. >> THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR IT TO GO TO A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING MAP AGAIN PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW SO THAT YELLOW WOULD TURN TO GREEN AS REPRESENTED WITH OLD CAROLINA. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED SOME SECTIONS FROM THE BACK ISLAND SIMMONS FILLED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WHICH TALKS ABOUT IN BLUFFTON LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS DEFINED AS ONE UNIT PER THREE ACRES.

MEDIAN DENSITIES RANGE FROM ONE TO THREE UNITS PER ACRE WHICH CONSISTS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. MULTIFAMILY HOMES MAY BE PERMITTED AS LONG AS THE OVERALL ALLOW DENSITY IS NOT EXCEEDED ACCORDING TO THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE BUCKLE AND SIMMONS OF ALL NEIGHBORHOOD EXISTING MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITHIN THE SIMMONS MILL NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDE AREAS SUCH AS WELLSTON WHEN HE LIKES AND HIDDEN LAKES AND THEN ALSO WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION A SECTION THAT STATES AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN THE BUCKLE ON SIMMONS WILL PLAN WAS INITIALLY CREATED THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS DISCUSSED AND HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PLAN WHICH SAYS THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS BY COLIN SIMMONS HILL RESIDENTS CONTINUALLY VOICED CONCERNS OVER WHAT WAS REFRESHED REFERENCE AS THE BUCK ISLAND

SQUARE AND OLD CAROLINA PROJECTS. >> THEY HAD CONCERNS OF INCREASED TRAFFIC ON OUR ALREADY INADEQUATE ROADWAYS, INCREASES IN PROPERTY TAXES AND COULD BUILD INCOMPATIBILITY CITY WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT IF FURTHER GOES ON TO

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SAY IT'S VITAL THAT TOWN STAFF PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL CAREFULLY ASSESS THE IMPACT OF REZONING REQUESTS CAREFUL ASSESSMENT SHOULD HELP ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THUS HELPING TO FULFILL THE NEEDS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE BUCKHANNON SIMMONS WILL PLAN DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE PREDOMINATELY LOW TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES PREVAILING ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THESE PROPERTIES SHOULD REMAIN ZONING DESIGNATION OF GENERAL RESIDENTIAL AT THIS TIME.

>> SO THIS IS A COPY OF THE SCHEDULE WHICH IS HOPEFULLY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT IN YOUR POCKET. WE'VE BEEN PUTTING THESE TOGETHER TO HELP PEOPLE TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND A PROCESS AND YOU KNOW WHERE WE'VE WHERE WE'VE COME FROM AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW WHERE IT SAYS PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP FOR JULY 28. TWO OF THE ITEMS ARE DARK AND THEN TWO OF THE ITEMS ARE LIGHTER. SO THE PD TEXT AMENDMENT IN THE MASTER PLAN IS NOT WHILE IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY REVIEWING THOSE ITEMS AT THIS TIME.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONTEXT ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS. SO THIS EVENING IS GOING FOR DISCUSSION COMMENTS. IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT THIS WOULD COME BACK AS A PUBLIC HEARING IN FRONT OF YOU FOR ALL FOUR OF THE ITEMS AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING WHICH THREE OF THEM DO REQUIRE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND THEN THE MASTER PLAN IS JUST THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL FROM THERE. IT'S ANTICIPATED IT WOULD GO TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR A FIRST READING IN NOVEMBER OF THE THREE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED AND THEN A JANUARY 11TH FINAL READING FOR THE THREE ITEMS FOR AUDIENCES AND THEN THE APPROVAL OF THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE MASTER PLAN AGAIN JUST TO KEEP A COPY OF THE STAFF

EARLY PRESENTATION EXCUSE ME THE SITE PLAN RIGHT HERE. >> I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER

QUESTIONS AND OPINIONS HERE. >> MR. NESTER, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND I'M HAPPY TO JUST KIND OF OPEN THE DIALOG AND THAT BACK ON MY FIREFIGHTERS SO WE CAN HELP.

>> YEAH, SURE. >> OK. >> I WANT TO SAY ANYTHING

BEFORE WE START YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS WALTER HESTER AND I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH VERN FORMAN LAW FIRM AND WE REPRESENT THE APPLICANT WITH ME TONIGHT.

MR. JEREMY MORSE AND GREAT BATTEN AND THEY'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. I HAVE TO SAY THAT IT'S SO VERY NICE TO MEET YOU ALL IN PERSON.

I'VE BEEN THAT BIG FACE ON THE VIDEO SCREEN FOR A LOT OF THESE THIS YEAR AND A HALF INCLUDING DERBY. IT'S SO NICE TO ACTUALLY SEE DARBY BECAUSE DERBY HAS BEEN IN CONTROL OF MY LIFE. THE ZOOM FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF LETTING ME IN.

KICKING ME OUT AND BACK AND FORTH. SO IT'S VERY NICE TO BE HERE AND WE VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE BACK IN OPEN SESSION AND I APPRECIATE MR. A CARDS PRESENTATION. YOU SHOULD HAVE HEARD MR. HOWARD'S ERIC YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT OUR APPLICATION AND IN THE ANALYSIS OF IT WHEN WE WERE IN FRONT OF THE DRC THIS THIS PROCESS IS IS COMPLICATED. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU THINK ABOUT IS HOUSING. RIGHT. SO WHAT HAVE WE BEEN READING ABOUT? WHAT HAVE WE BEEN HEARING ABOUT YOU AS A PLANNING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS CITIZENS, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON? WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT IS HOUSING AND HOUSING HOUSING AND WHERE DOES THE HOUSING GO? EVERYBODY WANTS HOUSING AND EVERYBODY WANTS HER TO BE HOUSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT WE NEED A PLACE TO PUT AND I RECOGNIZED BUCK ISLAND SIMMONS OF A ROAD PLAN. WE HAVE CERTAINLY WE'VE REVIEWED THAT AND CERTAINLY WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SAYS. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, WHEN IT WAS PASSED. WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS AREA OF THE TOWN WE THINK OF WHAT IS IT GOING TO BE? THE RESIDENTS CERTAINLY DIDN'T WANT A SHOPPING CENTER AND THEY DIDN'T GET A SHOPPING CENTER. BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SO IT'S GOT TO BE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. HOW DO YOU MAKE A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL? ALL THE TOOLS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.

IT'S ALL CAROLINA PLAYING, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AND BRINGING THE OLD CAROLINA PLAY NEW TO DEVELOPMENT, EXPANDING IT GIVES PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR WE BELIEVE EQUALITY, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND WE BELIEVE THAT THAT KIND OF HOUSING IS REALLY NEEDED IN THE TOWN AND YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE TO GO TOO FAR AWAY FROM NOW AND PACK IT TO SEE ARTICLES ABOUT HOW THE HOUSING THAT WE'RE FACING AS AN EMPLOYER IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. I CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO WORK FOR ME BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE. THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ANYMORE.

THEY CERTAINLY CAN'T LIVE AFFORD TO LIVE IN IN IN HILTON HEAD.

IF YOU CAN FIND A PLACE THAT'S FOR SALE OR FOR RENT. SO HOUSING IS IT A DESPERATE SITUATION? AS AN EMPLOYER I SAY YES, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT YOU ALL TO THE EXTENT THAT YOUR BUSINESS OWNERS OR YOU'RE IN BUSINESS THAT THERE IS A THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR HOUSING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS AND WE WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

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WE RECOGNIZE SOME OF SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT KEVIN OXMAN, MR. ICAHN, MR HOWARD POINTED OUT TO US AND WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS. JEREMY MADAM CHAIR, MY NAME IS

JEREMY MOSS, THE VISE PRESIDENT DEVELOPMENT FOR BONAVENTURE. >> WE ARE EXCITED TO BE HERE AS WELL AS MR. NESTOR DESCRIBED. THIS IS OUR FIRST PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN BLUFFTON OR THE AREA WE ARE BASED IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA. AND I SAY THAT NOT NECESSARILY TO SCARE YOU THAT WE'RE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN BUT AS A PLACE WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO COME AND DO BUSINESS AND DO BUSINESS FOR A LONGTIME BONAVENTURE IS A FULL SERVICE REAL ESTATE FIRM. YOU DON'T KNOW YET. HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SOON.

WE DO ALL OF OUR OWN SITE NEGOTIATION, ALL OF OUR OWN DESIGN.

WE DO OUR OWN CONSTRUCTION. WE DO OUR OWN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

AND I SAY THAT TO DESCRIBE US AS A LONG TERM HOLD COMPANY, ONE THAT INTENDS TO BUILD AN APARTMENT LIKE THIS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE AND TO PARTNER WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND TO BE HERE FOR A LONGTIME SO IS AS YOU EMAIL AND TALK WITH ME NOW 10 OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW AS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR THINGS COME UP OR WE COME IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN, YOU SHOULD HEAR THE SAME NAMES OVER AND OVER AGAIN RELATIVE TO BONAVENTURE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SWEEP IN AND BUILD THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE FROM OUT OF TOWN AND YOU'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN AS WE MOVE ON THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO. WE ARE RELATIVELY NEW FIRM. WE STARTED 21 YEARS AGO AND WE HAVE BUILT 13 PROJECTS FROM THE GROUND UP MOSTLY IN VIRGINIA THROUGHOUT RICHMOND, NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND HAMPTON ROADS AREA. BUT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED BLUFFTON AS MR. NESTOR DESCRIBED A PLACE THAT NEEDS HOUSING AND A PLACE THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT FIT FOR THE BONAVENTURE PRODUCT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU A PLAN. WE HAVE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM STAFF WE INTEND TO TO WORK WITH STAFF AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT THE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR NEEDS AND YOUR VISION FOR THIS SITE AND THEN TO ALSO ENSURE THAT OUR OUR OUR IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORS WHO AGAIN WE INTEND TO BE THEIR NEIGHBORS FOR A LONG TIME HAS MINIMIZED BOTH FROM AN AESTHETIC STANDPOINT TRAFFIC SCHOOLS ETC..

SO WE'RE HERE TODAY WITH AN OPEN MIND AND WE'D LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT HERE WHICH YOU SAY AND TRY TO FIND A PLAN THAT COULD WORK FOR ALL OF US.

AND WITH THAT I'LL TURN THE FLOOR BACK OVER AT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WITH ANY

QUESTION THAT YOU TALK ABOUT HOUSING. >> CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF IS THERE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS PROPOSAL AND IF SO HOW MUCH THERE IS?

>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, THERE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. RIGHT NOW OUR INTENTION IS TO WITH THE 20 PERCENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT FROM THE TOWN SET WITH 188 UNITS THAT PUTS US AT I THINK THIRTY SEVEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AT 100 PERCENT NAME.

SO WHATEVER THE PLAN EVENTUALLY ENDS WITH WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS WE INTEND TO PROVIDE

THAT 20 PERCENT AFFORDABLE 20 PERCENT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> IF I COULD JUST A MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION AS MOST OF YOU REMEMBER WE ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH A UNIFIED DEVELOPER AUDIENCE TEXT AMENDMENT ABOUT A YEAR YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHERE ANY NEW PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR IF SOMEONE WAS COMING INTO PLAY IN UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TO IT INITIALLY WAS A 10 PERCENT REQUIREMENT AND WE CHANGED THAT TO 20 PERCENT. SO THAT'S WHY THIS PROJECT NOW SINCE THEY'RE COMING INTO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MEET THAT 20 PERCENT. YES. THANK YOU.

>> DO YOU DO A STUDY ON WHAT WHEN HOW MANY DO YOU USE WOULD BE IF YOU JUST FOLLOWED OR IS

CURRENTLY ALLOWED? >> I THINK BY RIGHT ZONING ALLOWS SOMETHING LIKE 60 TO GO

UP TO TOWNHOME STYLE BUILDING. >> SO I THINK THAT THE CURRENT ELEMENT IS ABOUT 62 UNITS SINGLE FAMILY. THAT'S RIGHT. CURRENT ZONING IS OUR RESIDENTIAL FOR FIFTEEN POINT FIVE TWO ACRES OF THAT ABOUT SIX AND A HALF IS THE WETLANDS

AREA THAT SHOWN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. >> NOT RIGHT NOW.

WALTER, YOU MADE THE ASSUMPTION WHY NO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS WHY DID YOU MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION? ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS WON'T WORK ON THIS PROPERTY.

WHY WHY ARE WE MAKING THAT ASSUMPTION? >> WELL, BASED ON MY CLIENT'S REVIEW OF THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE.

I WASN'T TRYING TO BE I WASN'T TRYING TO SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE.

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>> I JUST WANTED TO I JUST WANTED TO DIG INTO THAT AND SEE ON A STAFF QUESTION THERE IS NO DENSITY ASSIGNED TO THIS OTHER THAN THAT BY RATE FOUR UNITS PER ACRE SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT.

>> UNDER CURRENT CODE IT'S FOUR UNITS PER ACRE. NOW THERE IS A THERE ARE PROVISIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IF YOU WERE TO DEVELOP A SLIDING SCALE SO THAT 50 PERCENT YOU CAN GET A 50 PERCENT INCREASE IN YOUR DENSITY BUT AGAIN IT'S STILL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED OR ATTACHED HOUSING GET THAT ISN'T IT?

>> MR. DO YOU HAVE 100 PERCENT HAS TO BE TO GET THE BONUS DENSITY UNDER PRESENT IS USED FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE. YET AGAIN THERE'S A SLIDING SCALE IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDER. SO IF YOU IF YOU DID 25 PERCENT OF YOUR PROJECT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING THEN YOU GET THE 25 PERCENT MORE UNITS IF YOU DO 100 PERCENT OF YOUR PROJECT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING THEN YOU GET A FULL A FULL BONUS. SO IN THIS CASE CURRENTLY ALLOWED 62 UNITS IF THEY DID 100 PERCENT OF THAT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING THEN YOU GET AN ADDITIONAL 62 UNITS WHICH IS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY NOW. UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T

NECESSARILY MEAN THAT A HUNDRED TWENTY THAT CAN FIT RIGHT. >> I KNOW THAT HISTORICALLY COUNCIL ON PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE BEEN CONCERNED WITH WE HAVE SO MANY UNITS APPROVED IN THIS TOWN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO ADD UNITS NILLY AND SO WE'RE TAKING 62 AND I'M TALKING TO THE COMMISSION HERE FOR A SECOND. WE'RE TAKING 62 UNITS AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR THREE TIMES THAT ANOTHER STAFF. CLARIFICATION QUESTION THE PD CAROLINA PD THERE'S NO THEY DON'T NEED TO ACCEPT THIS AND THIS IS JUST A MATTER OF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO WRAP IT INTO AN IF WE SAY IT'S OK THEY GET WRAPPED INTO IT.

THAT'S CORRECT. YES, JUST TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT AND I'M CERTAIN MR. M. YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU AND BUT I CANNOT THINK OF A PROJECT THAT IS MORE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WAS INTENDED FOR AN AREA THAN THIS PROJECT IS HAVE A CULTURAL NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.

>> THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PLOPPING A HUGE PROJECT WITH MASSIVE BUILDINGS IN THE MIDDLE AND AN AREA WHERE THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY STRESSED AND STRAINED AND I JUST I DON'T SEE ANY WAY ANYTHING CLOSE TO THIS COULD COME TO FRUITION WANTS OF THE TOWN'S MASTER PLAN OF THE BUCK ALAN SIMMONS PHIL STUDY THAT WE DID AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS THAT WAS IN THAT ASKED FOR FEEDBACK AND I'M GIVING YOU FEEDBACK AND THAT'S IT.

>> YEAH, CAN YOU GIVE US INFORMATION ON TRAFFIC LIKE WHAT YOU'VE STUDIED AND HOW

THAT IMPACTS CITY, WHAT IMPACT THIS INTERSECTION? >> WE DON'T.

WE'RE CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE APPLICATION BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION

YET. >> HAVE ENGAGED TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO PROVIDE BOTH TRIP GENERATION AND A TRAFFIC STUDY. THEY'RE WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION TO ENSURE THAT THE SCOPE IS APPROPRIATE. THE INITIAL RESPONSE AT LEAST FROM OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AT NO SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF SERVICE CHANGE WILL OCCUR AT THE INTERSECTION OF BUCK ISLAND AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY. AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE THE ADDITIONAL ACCESS THAT WE ARE PUTTING THROUGH THE WETLANDS AREA ON THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND WE WERE INTENTIONAL ABOUT THAT IN SOMEWHAT REACTION TO WHAT MR. WETMORE IS SAYING WHICH IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TRAFFIC DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT PARTICULARLY ON BALL FIELD WHICH IS A SMALL RELATIVELY SMALL ROAD THAT ENDS IN THIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO OUR GOAL IS CERTAINLY TO DIRECT TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THAT THAT ROAD.

TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S NOT APPROVED AS PART OF OUR PLAN AND TO ENSURE THAT OUR TRAFFIC DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA PARTICULARLY TRAFFIC THAT EXITS THE ELEMENTS SO YOU CAN SEE RIGHT OUT GO OUT TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND MAKE IT RIGHT.

SO WE'VE CERTAINLY BEEN COGNIZANT OF THAT IN WE RECOGNIZE THE SCALE OF THE BUILDINGS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. AND WE ALSO TO MR. WHAT MORRIS POINT RELATIVE TO THE TO THE DENSITY IS YOU KNOW, IN OUR EXPERIENCE MULTIFAMILY IS A IS A LITTLE BIT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCOMMODATING TO TRAFFIC AND

TRAFFIC NOISE. >> SO THE CLOSER WE GET TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND THAT INTERSECTION WE WILL GET RESIDENTS ARE GENERALLY MORE ACCOMMODATING OF THAT KIND

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OF TRAFFIC NOISE AND WHAT WE WOULD GET IF WE'VE DEVELOPED SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TOWNHOMES OR EVEN SINGLE RENTALS FOR EXAMPLE, EXPECTATIONS FOR THE SOUND AND LIGHT AND OTHER THINGS THAT COMES RIBAUT RELATIVELY WELL TRAVELED ROAD LIKE BLUFFTON PARKWAY TO DEVELOPMENT MORE LIKE THIS THAN YOU WOULD FOR A DETACHED SINGLE BETTER RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOU . THE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOMES IN HAMPTON LAKE THAT ARE KEVIN CAN YOU PULL UP THAT MAP THAT HAS THE IT'S WHERE IT IS LIKE WHERE THE MEDIUM DENSITY AND THE HIGH DENSITY I JUST WANTED TO SEE NOW IT IS CURRENTLY MEDIUM BUT LIKE WHERE IS THE HIGH IN THIS LIKE WHERE'S THE CLIP THE NEAREST HIGH DENSITY LIKE WHAT'S THE SO I CAN COMPARE WHAT WE'RE THIS BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NOW THIS WOULD BE AT SOME IT'D BE THE ONLY THING RIGHT THERE AND A POCKET OF ALL MEDIUMS I'M JUST I JUST WANTED TO SEE THERE'S A FEW AREAS THAT'S WELL STONE THERE THE THIS THAT VISTA VIEW

OF A MAIN RIVER ROAD. >> YES IT BACKS THAT BACK THERE.

>> YEP. >> BROWN IT ALL CAROLINAS WELL THAT'S IN THE PARTS.

THAT'S RIGHT YEAH. SO I'M SORRY. LIKE THIS IS NOT THE NO.

>> I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO VISUALLY SEE WHAT THE NEXT SURROUNDING LOOKS WOULDN'T BE

WALL ST. I SUPPOSE. >> YEAH. SO YOU CAN SEE IT IN THIS MAP.

THE POSTER WAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED AS A AS A PD AS WELL .

JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION MAYBE THIS IS TO MR. ECKHART YOUR REVIEW POINT NUMBER TWO SAID THE THE MASS SCALE OF THE 86 BUILDINGS ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER NOT ONLY FOR BUCK

ISLAND BUT FOR A TOWN OF BLUFFTON. >> THEIR FOOTPRINT IS OVER 300 PERCENT LARGER THAN ANY OTHER MULTIFAMILY BUILDING. NOW IS THAT A REQUIREMENT OR IS THAT A SUGGESTION? AND IF IT'S A SUGGESTION OR A REQUIREMENT, HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT AND STILL MAKE THIS ECONOMICALLY VIABLE FOR YOURSELF THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS

A STAFF COMMENT. >> AND THAT WAS REFLECTIVE OF VARIOUS APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITHIN BLUFFTON WHERE WE JUST DID A AN OVERVIEW OF JUST KIND OF GET AN ESTIMATE OF BOTH FOOTPRINT AND THEN FOUR STORIES FOR OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE AREA TO GIVE THE PERSPECTIVE TO YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW LARGE THEIR BUILDINGS ARE BEING PROPOSED COMPARED TO OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX BUILDINGS IN THE AREA.

>> WHAT'S THE NUMBER OF STORIES ON THIS? THERE'S TWO THREE STOREY BUILDINGS. THE TWO LARGER BUILDINGS ARE THREE STORIES AND THEN THE THREE SMALLER BUILDINGS ARE TWO STORY CHARACTERS HOSTILE WHICH IS A GARAGE UNDERNEATH AND A FLAT STYLE APARTMENT ABOVE TWO. TO YOUR POINT ON RECEIPT OF COMMENTS FROM STAFF.

IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THE MASS AND SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXPECTATIONS TOWN. AND WE'RE HEARING THAT TONIGHT AS WELL.

AND WHAT I CAN ASSURE YOU IS THAT WE WILL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN COMPLY WITH THAT. NOW WE ARE SOMEWHAT SITE CONSTRAINED OF COURSE SIX AND A HALF ACRES OF WETLANDS HAVE GOT TO PROVIDE SOME ROAD ON OR NEAR THE SITE THAT GOES DOWN TO BALL FIELD. SO IT'S IT'S ALMOST CERTAIN THAT WE WILL LOSE UNITS WHICH IS PROBABLY FOR THIS BODY AN IMPORTANT PART PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

BUT OUR INTENTION IS TO TRY TO COMPLY WITH THE 20 20 HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SLIGHTLY UNDER.

WE DO HAVE A THREE STOREY BREEZEWAY STYLE WALK UP THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE IN TOWN THAT I THINK WILL WE'LL DO WELL HERE AND LIKE I SAID, IT WILL RESULT IN REDUCTION OF UNITS. BUT OUR INTENTION IS TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUEST.

MR. DELKO, IF I MAY. >> I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

BUT TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS OFTENTIMES THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT THERE'S NO PLACE TO MAKE.

SO YOU HAVE YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE THE ECONOMICS WORK PRICE OF THE LAND PRICE FOR CONSTRUCTION AND HOW IT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO PERFORM. THEN YOU HAVE TO FIND THAT THAT PIECE OF LAND THAT'S GOING TO PERFORM AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MIGHT BE WHAT MIGHT BE ALLOWED THERE AND HOW WE CAN ALLOW IT. AND SO AN APPLICANT BEFORE THE TOWN IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS REALLY IS NEGOTIATING AGAINST ITSELF, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO, WHAT WHAT. AND THAT'S WHY COMMENTS FROM STAFF ARE CRITICAL TO US IN THIS PROCESS. BUT WE DON'T CHANGE THE APPLICATION TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP. THE APPLICATION IS WITH THE APPLICATION IS AND AS IT WORKS THROUGH THE PROCESS, OUR HOPE IS THAT WE GET TO AN APPLICATION THAT CAN RECEIVE A

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FAVORABLE FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION NOT ONLY FROM STAFF BUT FROM THE PLANNING

COMMISSION. >> OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE VALUE WORKSHOPS LIKE THIS HORSE LIKE SHOPS LIKE THIS ARE EXCELLENT. TOWN COUNCIL HAS A NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE. WE WOULD EXPECT HOPE THAT WE COULD GO TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE AS PART OF THE REZONING THAT WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND FIND OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WANT FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE RECOGNIZE AND BELIEVE THAT TOWN COUNCIL IS VERY ANXIOUS TO GET HOUSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND MARKET RATE HOUSING FOR THE PARCELS TO THE SOUTH. >> WHAT ARE THOSE ZONED AS OR

WELL YOU CAN SEE THEIR THREE RECTANGULAR PROPERTIES. >> THOSE ARE ALL CURRENTLY ZONED THE RESIDENTIAL GENERAL CURRENTLY IT'S JUST AN INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL LOTS.

>> YEAH. THERE MAY MAY BE MULTIPLE MOBILE HOMES ON THE LOTS BUT

NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT THE GOOGLE MAPS PHOTO. >> THERE ARE YEAH THERE'S A SMALL COLLECTION OF MOBILE HOMES AN APP LIKE IF YOU KEEP GOING SOUTH IT'S JUST ALL RIGHT

HERE SO IT'S SMALLER. >> YEAH. BUT THOSE ARE ALL I THINK THE MAJORITY THAT'S OUT THERE WOULD BE MOBILE HOMES WITH MULTIPLE UNITS ON ON LOTS.

>> WAS THERE ANY INTENTION OF IMPROVING ALL FILLED ROAD? I'M JUST SAYING I MEAN IF WE'RE GONNA PUT THAT ACT I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT THAT KIRK CURRENTLY BELFIELD ROAD IT DEAD ENDS OR I MEAN DEAD ENDS IN ESSENCE INTO CENTER FIELD ROAD THAT IS A COUNTY MAINTAINED ROAD AND THEN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH THEY COME IN AND THEY'RE ADDING EXTRA IMPACT THAT'S TO DEAL

WITH THAT. >> I MEAN THEY ANY CHANGES REQUIRED TO FIELD ROAD OR PERMITTED THE BALL FIELD ROAD WOULD BE AT THE DIRECTION AND APPROVAL BE FOR THE COUNTY

RICHMOND PERMIT AND EVERYTHING IS A CONCERN. >> I MEAN I MEAN BETTER BUT NOT ON HIS APPROVAL. RIGHT. THE TOWN THAT WOULDN'T HAVE THAT TOWN WOULD RELY ON THE ENCROACHMENT APPROVED ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FROM

BEAUFORT COUNTY. >> THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE KIND OF AS I WAS SAYING THAT YOU KNOW, WE WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A HOLISTIC

APPROACH. >> HOWEVER, FOR THIS EVENING'S PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE WORKSHOP FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AS THIS MOVES FORWARD THEN YOU KNOW.

YES, AS MR. NESTOR HAD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO KIND OF GO BACK AND REASSESS THAT THE SITE PLAN BASED OFF OF THIS DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM DRC MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THOSE AND THEN RESUBMIT THAT MASTERPLAN AND AMENDMENT FOR STAFF TO REVIEW IT AND THEN POTENTIALLY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE AND THEN WE CAN THEN START, YOU KNOW, FIND TUNING THAT PLAN, BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU. THOSE ITEMS COUNTY IS AWARE YOU KNOW, SOUTH CAROLINA DUTY IS AWARE OF THIS PROJECT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME INITIAL FEEDBACK THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED BUT THERE HAVEN'T OBVIOUSLY NO APPROVALS OF SORTS. BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WILL AS THE PLAN MOVES FORWARD WOULD BECOME MORE FINE TUNED AS TO EXACT LOCATIONS OF THESE CONNECTIONS.

>> I AGREE WITH WITH CHARLIE AND TOWN STAFF AT ITS PROJECT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW JUST

SEEMS TO BE I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY. >> I WAS GOING TO AGREE CHARLIE

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AS WELL AND PASSING IN THE AMOUNT EACH BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK JUST TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION AND LET'S SEE THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS BUILDING THAT I'M GOING LOOKS LIKE A T THE BIG BUILDING AND THEN THE SMALLER BUILDING AT THE BOTTOM THAT ARE THREE STORIES TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN REDUCE THOSE FROM EIGHTY SIX OR EIGHTY FOUR UNITS TO LET'S CALL THEM 18 TO

20. >> CONSISTENT COMMENTS THERE WILL BE THREE STORIES WE COULD PROBABLY CLAD THEM WITH LIKE TOWNHOUSE STYLE IN CAPS SO THEY HAVE THE APPEARANCE OF BEING SINGLE FAMILY AT LEAST THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MORE PALATABLE WITH THE REDUCTION IN DENSITY

ECONOMICS TO MR. MR. DICTATES SOME SIGNIFICANT DENSITY. >> SO I'M NOT I CAN'T GET DOWN TO 62 UNITS I'M EX WORK BUT WE CAN REDUCE DENSITY AND PERCENT AND SMALLER BUILDINGS WE CAN GET TO A PLACE THAT I THINK IS CLOSER WITH WHAT YOU ENVISION FOR THE SITE IT WOULD BE TUCKED

BACK AWAY. >> WE DO HAVE SOME TREES AS SOME PLANTS DID TO SAVE SOME OF THE EXISTING TREES PARTICULARLY SOME OF THE LARGER ONES WE CAN CREATE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ET CETERA, PARTICULARLY TO THE SOUTH. WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE TO THE SOUTH OF US. THEY WILL NOT BE AESTHETICALLY IMPACTED BY BUFFER FENCING OR OTHERWISE TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE MASS AND SCALE WE. ARE WE STILL HAVING A CONVERSATION OR IS THE PURE NUMBER OF UNITS EVEN IF IT'S AT 165 160 LET'S SAY THAT'S STILL A PLACE THAT'S NOT PALATABLE AND STILL OUT OF CHARACTER ON THE COMMISSION HOUSING THAT RUSSIAN NOT A VOTE BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW, ECONOMICALLY THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE CAN GET A 10 PERCENT REDUCTION. DO YOU THINK TO YOUR POINT, MR. MARK, THAT THE SCALE IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS PRODUCING AND GETTING YOUR FEEDBACK ON THOSE KIND

OF NUMBERS IS HELPFUL AND IT'S NOT BINDING? >> IT'S NOT BINDING ON THE COMMISSIONERS. YOU COULD SAY 100 THAT WORKS FINE FOR ME TODAY AND I NOW WE'RE FINE FOR YOU WHEN YOU SEE THE PLAN. JUST JUST HAVING SOME IDEA BEING SO WE'RE NOT REALLY AGAIN NEGOTIATING AGAINST OURSELVES. AND BACK TO BONNEVILLE ROAD.

I MEAN THAT'S THE FRONT OF THE FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE SOME BELFIELD WILL BE ADDRESSED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. IT CAN'T STAY AS A CAT A DIRT COUNTY OWNED. EXCUSE ME COUNTY MAINTAINED ROAD.

SO THERE WOULD WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THAT BE BEING THE FRONT DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT

WOULD CHANGE. >> I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF BUT THE SO MUCH OVER THE PAST 10 TO 20 YEARS TO DEFINE WHAT WE WANT IN THIS PART OF TOWN IN THIS VERY HOW I FEEL I'M ONE OF SEVEN. WHEN THE PEOPLE OF PARK ISLAND AND SIMMONS VALE ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN, THEY ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN HOPING THAT THEY COULD KEEP THE COMMUNITY FEEL THAT THEY HAVE WHICH IS VERY ECLECTIC AND VERY MUCH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S I MEAN IT'S GETTING GENTRIFIED AND IT'S CHANGING BUT A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL THERE AND IT'S IT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN WALK OUT IN YOUR YARD AND YOU CAN SEE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND

I JUST. >> AND I'D LOVE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM FROM THAT COMMUNITY NOT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO DECIDE WHAT GOES. IT DOESN'T GO HERE BUT WE LOOK BACK AT THE BOOK ON SIMMONS CIVIL STUDY THAT WAS DONE AND THE INPUT FROM FROM ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT STUDY AND GET A GOOD FEEL FOR WHAT WAS WHAT WAS REQUESTED AND THERE THERE ARE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE BY RIGHT.

>> I MEAN YOU LOOK AT YOU LOOK AT PULTE IS DOING ALL THE AND I'M JUST GIVING THE EXAMPLE PULTE IS DOING ALL THESE LITTLE COMMUNITIES WITH 30 AND 40 AND 60 HOMES PUTTING THEM IN THE POCKETS AND THAT WOULD FIT IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THE NEIGHBORS MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT THAT'S BY RIGHT. WHAT WAS DECIDED THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS? THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A BAD PROJECT. I JUST IN MY OPINION THE LOCATION AND I THINK MR. WHITMORE I MEAN YOUR COMMENT IS A VERY APPROPRIATE ONE THAT THAT THERE IS SOME GENTRIFICATION GOING ON DOWN THERE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO WANT TO COMMISSION TO LOOK AT BECAUSE AS THE COMMUNITY CHANGES, GENTRIFICATION SOMETIMES CAN MEAN TAKING ONE ACRE AND TURNING IT INTO FORCE FOR LOTS WITH FOR FOUR MOBILE HOMES AND NOT NOT TO ARGUE THE POINT BUT IS THAT IS THAT GETTING THE HOUSING THAT THE TOWN REALLY NEEDS. AND ARE THOSE THE PEOPLE THAT

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ARE LIVING THERE TODAY THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE EARLY 2000S IN THE BUCKEYE ON SOME CIVIL ROAD? AND I DON'T KNOW. BUT I THINK THAT YOUR POINT IS IT IS AN EXCELLENT ONE THAT WE NEED TO SPEAK SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE IN TERM IT FOR THIS KIND OF A PROJECT AND APPRECIATE THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAGIC NUMBER IS AS FAR AS UNITS BUT SAY THAT YOU KNOW, YOU WERE ALLOWED TO DO MORE THAN THE 60

. >> I'M JUST FROM A MASSING STANDPOINT YOU COULD BREAK THOSE BUILDINGS UP AND TO SMALLER PIECES ARE LARGE FOOTPRINTS.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT. I MEAN WE'VE ARGUED ABOUT THIS OTHER PROJECTS AROUND TOWN LIKE THAT'S JUST REALLY JUMPS OUT AT THE PAGE AS YOU LOOK AT IT FROM FROM THE TO D OVERHEAD VIEW AT LEAST ON THE DEVELOPABLE HIRSCH PORTION JUMPS OUT ON THE PAGE AND I RECOGNIZE THAT BUT IF WE WERE LOOKING AT IT AND IT WAS SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE ENTIRETY THE FIFTEEN FORTY FIVE TWO ACRES MAYBE IT WOULD FEEL DIFFERENT BUT IT'S NOT.

>> AND IT'S THE SITE CONSTRAINT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. SO YOU KNOW AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WE WE HEAR WHAT STAFF IS SAYING CERTAINLY HERE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SAYING AND OUR INTENTION IS TO TO BE WHAT I AT THE VERY BEGINNING A PARTNER WITH THE TOWN OVER AND DO OUR BEST TO TO SAY THAT IS MR. NESTOR DESCRIBED ALLOWS THE PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT IMPORTANT HOUSING MOVE PROVIDED THE PEOPLE BUT OTHER THING THAT I WILL SAY AT LEAST RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE NATIONAL HOMEBUILDERS IS THAT EVEN THOUGH BONAVENTURE IS BASED IN ALEXANDRIA, VIRGINIA, WE SERVE AS OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR OR DEDICATED TO USING LOCAL AND REGIONAL SUBCONTRACTORS INCLUDING PROBABLY SOME

TRADESPEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. >> THE FOLKS THAT WE USE TO BUILD OUR BUILDINGS ARE GENERALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE POPULATION AROUND US SO WE DON'T BUILD THEM IN A WAREHOUSE AND SHIP THEM DOWN ON TRUCKS DOWN 95 AND PULL OFF AND AND JUST BRING THEM ON SITE AND THEY'LL ADD TOGETHER. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL SLEEP IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH WE WE BUILD OUR PRODUCTS. WE'LL PASS THEM EVERY DAY.

WE'LL BE PROUD THEN WE'LL POINT TO THEM AS THEY'RE WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND THE CARDS THAT WE HELP BUILD THOSE. SO YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A SLIGHT DISTINCTION BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. IF WE HAD THE ECONOMICS NECESSARY TO COME AND BUILD OUT OF A KIT, WE COULD PROBABLY BUILD SIGNIFICANTLY LESS UNITS .

BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S WHERE FORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT THE PRODUCT TYPE THAT WE DO AND THAT'S NOT THE QUALITY OF WORK THAT WE WANT TO BE KNOWN FOR. I THINK IT SERVES OUR COMMUNITIES BETTER BY USING LOCAL AND REGIONAL TRADESPEOPLE IN PARTICULAR.

SO LIKE TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. I WISH WE COULD ALWAYS DRIVE DOWN COSTS AND AND BUILD PURSUANT TO TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE WITHOUT ANY VARIANCES LIFE WOULD BE A LOT EASIER AREN'T ALWAYS ALLOWED TO DO THAT AND YOU KNOW THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT NEEDS OF THOSE AROUND IT OR DIFFERENT NECESSARILY THAN PROBABLY.

>> BUT YOU KNOW OTHERS MIGHT WANT FOR THE SITE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT

FINE. >> ONE OTHER POINT I JUST I THINK AS I AS I DRIVE DOWN THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY A LOT AND I REMEMBER THE TIME WHEN THERE WASN'T A BLUFFTON PARKWAY THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY HAS CHANGED THE AREAS IN WHICH IT RUNS THROUGH AND YOU KNOW, 45 45

MILES PER HOUR IS THE MIND IF THAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT. >> I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A POLL ABOUT WHO DRIVES 45 MILES PER HOUR ON BLUFFTON PARKWAY BUT IT'S CHALLENGING.

SO THAT'S MY POINT IS THAT YOU KNOW, AS THE TOWN GROWS PARTS OF THE TOWN CHANGE AND I RECOGNIZE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ROLE IS AND WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ROLE IS. BUT BUT PROPERTY DOES CHANGE IN THE CHARACTER OF PROPERTY DOES CHANGE. AND THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR THE TOWN THAT IT NEEDS.

>> I THINK IS TO MY OPINION THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPELLS OUT WHAT THE WHAT THE THE PEOPLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED AND ANY DEVIATION FROM NOW CONCERNS ABOUT A PROJECT

OF THIS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL THE SEVEN. >> BUT TO ME IT STANDS OUT AS THE EXTREME DEVIATION FROM WHAT THE DESIRE WAS FOR THAT COMMUNITY TO ME THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ENGAGING OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS PROBABLY SHOULD CALL A COMMUNITY MEETING TO HYPER LOCAL TO OUR SITE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO US JUST LIKE YOU ALL HAVE RATHER INPUT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN TAKE THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT MIGHT THEY MAY NOT HAVE CONCERNS THEN WE CAN OR BACK OR WE'RE ASKED THAT THEY REPORT THAT DIRECTLY TO YOU ALSO ADVOCATE FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT?

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>> ABSOLUTELY ALWAYS HAVE THEM NOT HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING THEY SAY BUT JUST SAY YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ENGAGE EARLY IN THE PROCESS AND SOMETIMES BEFORE YOU GET STAFF FEEDBACK THEN YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A POSITION TO GO TO THEM WITH THREE OR FOUR PLANS AND IT IMMEDIATELY ERODES YOUR

CREDIBILITY. >> SO NOW THAT WE HAVE FEEDBACK FROM STAFF FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT'S CERTAINLY A GOOD TIME FOR US TO GET AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO A FINALIZED PLAN. TAKE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY WE THINK THAT THIS IS THE BEST YEAR THAT WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE BACK AND MAKE CHANGES AS WE CAN.

>> I THINK WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT POINT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE PROBABLY THE TIME TO ENGAGE THE LOCAL COMMUNITY BUT I WOULD REVIEW THAT COMP PLAN BUG ISLAND SIMMONS WILL WHAT WAS IT CALLED BY COLIN SIMMONS OR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN?

>> THANK YOU. SORRY. BRAIN MALFUNCTION BUT I WOULD I WOULD REVIEW THOSE AS WLREADY. WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE AND IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I'VE MEMORIZED SPOTLIGHT THAT TO THE TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT THAT'S BEEN THE PLAN CURRENTLY SAYS AND ENSURE WE PUT THAT IN FRONT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'VE.

>> THIS IS WHAT THE TOWN HAS SAID AT LEAST WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING KIND OF IT THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS I JUST BROUGHT BACK

UP THE. >> THE KIND OF NEXT STEPS AGAIN THIS IS TENTATIVE OF SEPTEMBER 22ND BASED OFF OF A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED APPLICANT HAVING SOME TYPE OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT MEETING AND MAKING THE NECESSARY CHANGES TO THE PLAN.

SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MASTER PLAN TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO CHANGE. AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS TO YOU TO FINE TUNE FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT AS TO WHEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET ALL THIS DOCUMENTATION TO US AS WELL AS HOLDING THE MEETING FEEDBACK FROM THE MEETING AND THEN BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU. SO IT MAY BE SEPTEMBER OR IT MAY BE THE FOLLOWING MONTH AND THEN OF COURSE YOU KNOW EVERYTHING KIND SHIFTS DOWN FOR TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS IF THERE'S NO VOTE NO YOU DON'T HAVE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU SAY THEN SAY THANK YOU VERY

MUCH AND SAY THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

I MEAN COMMENTS LIKE. ALL RIGHT. OKATIE IS YOUR APPLICANT HERE?

DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT ITEM 1 OR ONE WHEN RUSH LANE? >> MY APPLICANT HAS MISREAD THE DATE ON IT. HE CONFIRMED THAT HE WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT BUT HAS UNFORTUNATELY IS IN CHARLESTON UNABLE TO BE AT TONIGHT'S MEETING.

SO HE'S REQUESTED WE MOVE IT TO NEXT MONTH. NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA AND WE'LL

HAVE THAT ON HIM. I NEED TO MAKE A. >> I DON'T KNOW.

WE'LL JUST MOVE IT TO DURBAN. YEAH. IT WAS NEVER OPENED.

[VII.4. Unified Development Ordinance Amendments (Public Hearing): Amendments to the Town of Bluffton Code of Ordinances Chapter 23 – Unified Development Ordinance, Article 3 – Application Process, to Establish Section 3.26, Pro-active Preservation and Maintenance of Contributing Structures (Staff- Charlotte Moore)]

NO, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR WHICH IS THE UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER TWENTY THREE UDA ARTICLE 3 APPLICATION PROCESS TO ESTABLISH SECTION THREE POINT TO SIX PROACTIVE

PRESERVATION AND MAINTENANCE OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES. >> CHARLOTTE.

>> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THIS ORDINANCE THAT IS PROPOSED THIS EVENING ACTUALLY ISN'T NEW . WE HAD A PREVIOUS MAINTENANCE OF CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES ORDINANCE PRIOR TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE BEING ADOPTED IN 2011. FOR SOME REASON IT DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE YUDHOYONO.

AND WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO REESTABLISH IT'S JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FORMAT THAN

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY. >> WE. >> UPS.

>> THANK YOU. AND SOMEHOW WE ENDED UP BROKE IT ALL.

>> I SURE DID. THAT'S MY CLICK FIRST. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE GOT.

>> EXCUSE ME. ALL RIGHTY. SO LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND WHAT THIS IS INTENDED TO DO.

THIS IS PROPOSED AD TO ALLOW THE TOWN TO STEP WHEN WE SEE ANY KIND OF DETERIORATION, ANY SORT OF STRUCTURAL DEFECTS, ANY KIND OF DECAY IN OUR CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS IN JUST A MOMENT. ARE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES

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