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THIS IS A MEETING OF THE SELF EVALUATION COMMITTEE.
I SAID THAT I'LL COMMITTEE AND I WILL CHARGE OF COURSES TO DEVELOP AN EVALUATION TO AGENDA.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I BELIEVE.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THE MEDIA HAS BEEN PROPERLY NOTIFIED.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS, ROBIN.WE NEED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, SIR.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.
MY CONNECTION WAS, WAS A MOTION MADE BY LAMB IS SECOND BY JOANNE.
READY FOR THE QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR.
AND THEY ALL POSITION NINE HEARD MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
RIGHT MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, CAN WE GET A MOTION? EVERYBODY MAKE SURE I MAKE A MOTION THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING ON OCTOBER 22ND OF 2000 TO 2020.
I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT IF I MADE IT JUST BRIEFLY LOOK THEM OVER ONCE AGAIN.
IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? THAT'S OKAY.
DO YOU NEED ME TO SCROLL THEM UP? NO, I ACTUALLY, I HAVE HER DOCS OPEN ON MY DEVICE TODAY.
SO IF I'M A LITTLE SLOW, I'M ACTUALLY TOGGLING BETWEEN, UM, MY ZOOM CONTROLS AND BOARD DOCS.
I DON'T HAVE A SECOND COMPUTER.
SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
I SENT THAT NOTE OUT THE OTHER DAY ABOUT VIEWING SOME OF THE REVISIONS WE HAVE, AND I'M SURE YOU HAD ALREADY DONE THAT.
SO I, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE MYSELF A NOTE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS ASKING US TO DO? ALL RIGHT, GOOD.
WE HAD TO START THE THIRD OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE WERE REVIEWING OR REFERENCING.
AND, UH, WE SHOULD BE STARTING ON PAGE FIVE RIGHT HERE, RELEVANT OF THE, OF THE, OF THE STRUCTURE OR THE SO, UH, MY THOUGHTS GOING FORWARD IS AS WE DEVELOP, I GUESS WE GOT 23 QUESTIONS NOW.
HOW MANY MORE ARE WE GOING TO PULL OUT OF HERE? AND THEN WE TO FIND TWO, ONE THAT I BELIEVE WE AGREED ON.
WE AGREE ON THAT COMMITTEE THREE, WE'RE GOING TO PULL WHAT WE CAN OUT OF HERE.
AND THEN WE REVIEWED THEM ALL AND FINE TUNE THEM OR SELECT A FINAL NUMBER.
NOW THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF, OF UH, WHAT THE COMMITTEE, UM, INFORMALLY AGREED TO AT OUR LEVEL.
ANYWAY, UH, SO WE'LL START BY REVIEWING, I GUESS THE, THE,
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THE QUESTIONS AND CROSS REFERENCING IT WITH WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE.AND THEN LIKE I DID, I JUST LOOKED AT THEM AND I SAW SOME THAT WERE AGREEABLE AND I SAW SOME THAT I'M NOT SURE OF AND SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED.
SO, AND THEN ANY COMMENT FROM ANYONE ELSE, JOANNE NOW, UM, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE REINS HERE AND BRING FORWARD, UH, ITEMS THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE BEST REMOVED ALTOGETHER AS A GOOD PLACE TO START? WELL, I'VE GOT A ITCH CATEGORY.
I GOT THE NUMBER FIVE AND IN THIS GROUP THAT I THOUGHT WOULD WOULDN'T DAMAGE ANYTHING.
IF IT WAS REMOVED EACH ITEM AS WE GO ONLY CAUSE I'M HAVING TROUBLE.
UM, YEAH, IF WE COULD, AS WE GO READ IT ALOUD, IF IT, BOY, IT TAKES TIME TO LEARN ABOUT IMPORTANT ISSUES FACING SCHOOLS THROUGH ACTION, SUCH AS ALLOWING TEACHERS, STUDENTS, AND ADMINISTRATORS TO REPORT AT MEETINGS.
I THINK I'VE GOT A CHECK ON THAT SAYING IT WAS OKAY TO KEEP OKAY.
I THINK MOST OF THEM WE KEEP, BUT I'M DEFINITELY FINE.
I DON'T REMOVE A WHOLE LOT OF THEM EXCEPT THEY CROSS THEY'RE CROSSING SOME OF THEM PATH OF THE OTHERS, BUT I THINK THAT WAS OKAY TO KEEP AND THEY COMMENT AND THEY TELL ME WHAT YOU'RE THINK AND I'M THINKING, BUT FOR ME IN THIS CASE NOW, WELL, JOANNE, YES.
CAUSE, UM, I THINK AS WE ALL RECALL, SOME TIME AGO, THE BOARD, UM, ELECTED TO HAVE OUR TEACHER GROUP COME FORWARD, UM, AND ADDRESS THE BOARD PERIODICALLY.
AND UM, THIS IS A MEASURE IN PLACE THAT WOULD HOLD US TO THAT, THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.
NOW WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM OUR TEACHER, UH, GROUP IN SOME TIME, BUT, UM, THIS WOULD KIND OF SERVE AS A REMINDER TO US THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT.
PLUS THE OTHER, THE PRACTICAL PART OF IT, I'VE BEEN WELL, NOT MORE PRACTICAL, BUT THE PART OF MR. CAMPBELL, MS. CAMPBELL, WE KEEP UP BREASTS LIKE THAT.
AND I WAS GOING TO SAY, YEAH, I DO AGREE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING GOOD.
AND EVEN IF WE JUST START, UH, BRINGING STUDENTS, MAYBE EVEN THINK ABOUT ASKING THE SUPERINTENDENT TO POSSIBLY EVEN MAKE A LITTLE STUDENT GROUP, YOU MADE A SEPARATE STUDENT GROUP THAT, UH, THAT REPORTS TO THE BOARD FROM A DATA POINT OF A COMBINED STUDENT LEADERSHIP TYPE THING.
AND, AND I WANT YOU TO BE DIFFERENT I'M YEAH.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING INTERESTING AS IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, BUT YEAH, I DEFINITELY DO LIKE THIS.
BUT YEAH, I THINK WE DO MOST OF THIS ALREADY, SO WE CHECK IT ALL.
WE CAN FINE TUNE IT WITH YOUR IDEA ABOUT, OKAY.
THAT'S LIKE THE TEACHER GROUP.
UH, KEISHA, YOU DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
I WAS, I WAS JUST LISTENING TO EVERYBODY.
UM, I THINK I'M GOOD WITH NUMBER ONE, UH, NUMBER TWO THEN, IS THERE A WORDED PROPERLY? I MEAN, OKAY.
BECAUSE I LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THE REVISIONS AND I HAVE A QUESTION ON TWO OF THEM ON A COUPLE OF THOSE, BUT I'LL DEAL WITH THAT LATER ON DISCUSSES AND RESEARCHES EVENTS AND TRENDS IN THE LARGER COMMUNITY THAT MAY AFFECT YOU ONE MORE TIME ON THAT ONE DISCUSSES AND RESEARCHES EVENTS AND TRENDS IN THE LARGER COMMUNITY
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THAT MAY AFFECT SCHOOLS.I ASSUME THE LARGER COMMUNITY IN THIS CASE, MEN, THE WORLD.
I GUESS I APPRECIATE THE WORDS YOU ADDED BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING, DO WE HAVE, UH, ARE WE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT BEYOND BUFORD COUNTY, BEYOND THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA? WHAT ARE THE NATIONAL TRENDS? THANKS FOR ADDING THAT VERBIAGE.
I WOULD KEEP IT AND ADD YOUR VERBIAGE.
AND BEYOND SOUTH CAROLINA, PERHAPS THE COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW.
I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT MORE FOR
WELL, I BELIEVE THAT THE WORDING UP TO YOU EXPERTS IN THE TOO.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT MY REFRIGERATOR, BUT YEAH, I AGREE.
I THINK IT ENCAPSULATES AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT.
I AGREE WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT WORDING.
WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? I, I, TO ME, THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE FACT, THE FACT THAT, UH, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DISTRICT MISSION IS AND THAT WE'RE SETTING BOLD GOALS, THEN MAYBE AS A BOARD THEN MA MA YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
SO, YEAH, I THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A VALUABLE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, UH, THE QUESTION IS IT SAYS, UH, DOES A BOARD REVIEW THE DISTRICT MISSION? YOU KNOW, I HAD TO GET, I EVEN HAD BORMAN THAT THEY ASKED FROM TIME TO TIME, WE SHOULD RECITE THE DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS THING.
FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA THAT MS. CENTER AND THE FIRST THING IS THAT MISSION WILL, AND IT DID RESONATE TO ME WHEN I, WHEN I RAN THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE MISSION? AND, YOU KNOW, BUT I LOOKED AT THE, THERE WAS WRITTEN RIGHT ON TOP OF EVERY AGENDA, THE MISSION STATEMENT, BUT WE NEVER READ IT.
AND I THOUGHT ABOUT REDOING THAT THE DAY BEFORE I SAID ANYTHING ELSE, REALLY THAT MISSION STATEMENT, BECAUSE IT BECOMES A PART OF US.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE WILLING TO ADMIT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MISSION IS THAT REALLY SAYING WORD FOR WORD.
I KNOW THE GENERAL CONCEPT OF WHAT IT'S SAYING, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MISSION IS.
ANYBODY ELSE? KEEP IT, DROP IT.
AT NUMBER THREE, I KNOW WE DID NUMBER THREE, RIGHT? NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FOUR, OR RECOGNIZES THE SUPERINTENDENT AS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND EDUCATIONAL LEADER OF THE DISTRICT.
WELL, UM, SO IS IT SAYING WE RECOGNIZE THE SUPERINTENDENT AS THE EDUCATIONAL LEADER OF THE DISTRICT? WELL, I DON'T THINK RECOGNIZE IS MINIMIZED LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT MEANS THAT WE KNOW THE SUPERINTENDENTS ROLE AS WELL AS WE KNOW OURS.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK THEY MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO PUT IT IN WORDS AND ANYBODY ELSE.
CAN YOU READ IT AGAIN NOW? I'M SORRY.
BOARD RECOGNIZES THE SUPERINTENDENT AS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND EDUCATIONAL LEADER OF THE DISTRICT.
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I THINK IT'S VAGUE.AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A WIDE NET.
ONE OF THE TWO, THE BOY, I BET THIS FOR WORDING, THE BOARD RECOGNIZES THE SEPARATION OF DUTIES BETWEEN THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS.
NOT RECOGNIZES, BUT IS COGNIZANT OF IT IS AWARE OF THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW, AND, AND, AND WE MIGHT EVEN WANT TO ADD AND KEEPS SEPARATE THE DUTIES, UH, BETWEEN THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.
WELL, YEAH, BUT IT ALSO IMPLIES EXACTLY WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENTS RULE IS.
NOT JUST SO MUCH SEPARATE, BUT IT TELLS YOU THAT HIS WHOLE THING IS HE'S THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF THE EDUCATION.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE BOARD CAN BE EVALUATED ON.
WHAT WE CAN, COULD BE EVALUATED ON IS THAT WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
WE DON'T DELVE INTO WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING THE WEEDS.
UM, I THINK JOANNE SUGGESTION HAS VALIDITY.
CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, JOE, UM, BOARD RECOGNIZES WHAT BOARD IS AWARE OF THE IS AWARE OF AND RESPECTS SEPARATION OF DUTIES BETWEEN THE BOARD AND SUPERINTENDENT.
THE BOARD IS AWARE OF AND RESPECTS THE SEPARATION OF DUTIES BETWEEN THE BOARD AND THE SUPERINTENDENT.
WELL THAT'S WHAT ROBIN, THANKS.
I HAVE BEEN PRESENT AT BOARD MEETINGS WHERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT VALUES OF THE DISTRICT WERE A KEY FACTORS THAT ARE REACHING A CONCLUSION TO A PROBLEM.
I'LL USE THE DISTRICT VALUES OF THE DISTRICT.
WELL THE VALUES OF THE DISTRICT, I THINK THEY MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THE MISSION, I GUESS.
I GOT A BIG ARROW KICKING THAT ONE OUT.
I WOULD TAKE THAT ONE OUT THERE.
WELL, YEAH, MY QUESTION WAS REMOVE NUMBER FOUR AND PLACE AND REPLACE IT WITH WHAT JOANNE SAID.
WE ARE PLEASING PRESENTING BEFORE WHAT JOANNE SAID.
NUMBER SIX FOR B-ROLL COMMUNICATES ITS DECISION TO ALL AFFECTED BY THEM AS HIS DAD, UNTIL THE SUPERINTENDENT COMMUNICATIONS, BUT ALSO ADJUST OUR INITIATIVE.
SO IT WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT'S INITIATIVE HOURS WHEN IT SAYS BOARD, I THINK.
BUT I MEAN, WHEN THE TWO NOW WILL TELL A NEW COMMUNICATION SPECIALISTS NOW GROUP CRUISER, CANDACE, CANDACE, CANDACE RAISED SOMETHING, IS THAT A COLLECTOR OF THE BOARD WHEN WE DECIDE SOMETHING AND SHE PUTS IT OUT THERE, LIKE THE SHOWS.
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IS DECIDED, YES, GO AHEAD.WELL, IT CAN ALSO, I MEAN, IT'S, THERE'S SO MANY WAYS TO INTERPRET IT.
IT COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, TIMELY UPLOADING OF OUR MINUTES, OUR BOARD MEETING MINUTES ON OUR WEBSITE.
I MEAN, THERE'S, UM, PAPER, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT NEWSPAPER INTERVIEWS THAT BOARD MEMBERS OR THE OFFICERS MAY HAVE WITH, TO COMMUNICATE WHAT TOOK PLACE AT A MEETING.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY BOUND BY LAW TO COMMUNICATE WHAT WE, WHAT ACTIONS WE TAKE AS A BOARD.
I CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTIONS OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLIC GUY.
THAT GOES A LITTLE FINER THAN THAT.
I MEAN, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE MOLD THING AT, AT WHALE BRANCH, I MEAN, THAT DECISION AFFECTED THE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
UH, BUT BY LAW WE DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL THEM ANYTHING.
THEY'D BE, BE A GOOD BOY, A GOOD DISTRICT AND A GOOD BOARD.
WE HAD TWO, BUT BY LAW, IF WE DIDN'T WOULD BE JEOPARDIZING, BUT JOANNE, SO I MEAN, IT'S AN OPERATIONS ISSUE AND THE BOARD HAD THE WHEREWITHAL TO PUT IT ON AN AGENDA, UM, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.
UM, HAD THE BOARD NOT DEMANDED, IT IT'D BE PLACED ON AN AGENDA THEN PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT'VE FALLEN DOWN THERE.
I THINK I, I'M NOT EVEN CLEAR.
WE'VE COVERED ELSEWHERE IN A WAY, SOME OF THE EARLIER ONES IN THE REVISIONS KIND OF COVER WHAT WE DO IN TERMS OF FALL YEAR AND THE LAW.
NUMBER SEVEN, OR KEEPS ABREAST OF POLICIES MANDATED BY STATE AND FEDERAL LAW POPPING UP PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS AND THE COURTS.
UM, BUT UM, LET'S SPELL IT OUT EVERY YEAR.
THE BOARD CRAFTS UP A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UM, HOW BAD WE REWORDED TO SAY THE BOARD CREATE AN ANNUAL LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND SEEKS REPORTS ON FOLLOW-UP.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE LOBBYISTS.
UM, BUT THE BOARD HAS HISTORICALLY ALWAYS PRODUCED A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD.
I MEAN, THE QUESTION I LAX IN LISTENING TO YOU IS IT'S THAT LEGISLATIVE AGENDER, WHAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING HERE OR ARE THEY ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS SOME OF THE RULINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THE RULING OF TRINET GENERAL RULING WE HAVE ASKED FOR, THAT'S NOT THAT WOULDN'T, THAT WOULDN'T BE A PART OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LAW ABSOLUTELY YOU'RE SAYING.
THE STAFF BRINGS YOU UPDATES TO THE ARS LIKE WENDY DID WITH THE TITLE ONES AND BRING YOU AS, AS, AS LAWS CHANGE, THE ARS ARE UPDATED AND THEY BRING THAT TO THE BOARD, UM, WHEN YOU ALL HAD TO HAVE THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT HEARINGS AND STUFF.
SO I THINK IT ALSO ADDRESSES THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND THE STAFF BRINGS INFORMATION TO YOU AS THEY UPDATE THE ARS POINT ROBIN
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AND WE HAVE A POLICY THAT DEMANDS THAT THE ARS ARE BROUGHT TO US FOR INFORMATION.NO, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT THEY'RE LIKE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
I THINK THAT GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT MORE SO THAN, THAN US, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD POINT THAT MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A, A QUESTION THAT SAYS THE BOARD IS ACTIVE OR ACTIVELY PROMOTE ITS LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND MAKE THEM TWO SEPARATE TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
WE KEEPING SEVEN AS IS, AND THEN HAVE THE BOARD CREATES AN ANNUAL LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND SIX REPORTS ON FOLLOW UP AS A NUMBER EIGHT.
NUMBER EIGHT, WHATEVER THE NUMBERS ARE NOW, BUT YES.
DO WE HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS THE BOARD SHOULD SEEK AT THE CREATION OF AN ANNUAL, UM, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA OR ADD? WE JUST BEEN DOING THAT BECAUSE IT'S PAST PRACTICE AND HAS BEEN DONE FOR SOME TIME.
DOES ANYBODY RECALL, THERE'S NOT A POLICY FOR THAT, THAT, UM, THAT YOU ALL DO.
MAYBE WE NEED TO BRING THAT UP AS OUR NEXT MEETING.
THE DISCUSSION CELL, KEEP NUMBER SEVEN AS IS, KEEP NUMBER SEVEN, AS HE IS ADD NUMBER.
I ADD A NUMBER EIGHT THAT TALKS ABOUT US KEEPING SOUTH NATIVE AGENDA.
SO OWEN'S WORDS WHERE THE BOARD CREATES AN ANNUAL LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND SEEKS REPORTS ON FOLLOW-UP.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO? YEAH.
UH, ALSO, UH, WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT MENTIONING TO THE BOARD WITH MR. SHACK.
YOU SAID TOO AS WELL, BECAUSE, UH, THAT, THAT THAT'S, UH, UH, WHAT'D YOU CALL IT, UH, A THROW OFF FROM WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD FALL IN STEP.
I MEAN, WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T MAKE IT PRACTICE, THEN WE CAN MAKE IT A POLICY AND THAT IS HAVE MORE TEETH.
THAT JUST PRACTICE, RIGHT? YEAH.
UM, MR. CAMPBELL, A NUMBER SEVEN, WHAT IS THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC? AND I THINK THAT'S THE BOOK, UH, THE POP THAT I THINK THAT'S THE BOARD OF EDUCATION IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT, UH, DIVISION, STATE, BOARD OF EDUCATION, THE BOARD OF EDUCATION I IS THAT I'M LOOKING AT.
WELL, I JUST THINK SINCE IT'S CAPITALIZED, IT IS A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, WHICH MIGHT CAUSE SOME CONFUSION WHEN SOMEONE'S ANSWERING THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.
SO I JUST THOUGHT WE COULD TAKE IT OUT AND REPLACE IT WITH STATE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION OR JUST, YOU KNOW, A C D O E OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A PROPER NOW THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT.
IT MIGHT CAUSE SOME CONFUSION.
I MEAN, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF A DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION, I JUST ASSUME.
BUT I THINK THAT OUR QUESTIONNAIRE NEEDS TO BE VERY, UH, SUCCINCT AND, AND, UM, LI NOT LEAD TO ANY CONFUSION.
SO, SO REMOVE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION AND REPLACE WITH DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT.
NUMBER EIGHT, ALL ESTABLISHES AND MAINTAINS THIS SYSTEMATIC PLAN FOR FEEDBACK ON POLICIES TO DETERMINE EFFECTIVENESS THEIR WORTH AND WHETHER THEY NEED TO BE AMENDED, MODIFIED, OR SEALED OR CANCELED.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO GET A LITTLE NUMBER SCORE WISE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT THROUGH,
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RIGHT.NUMBER NINE, OR KEEPS THEM INFORMED ABOUT WHAT CHILDREN ARE LEARNING THROUGH REPORTS ON THE LASTING ACHIEVEMENT, VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND THE IMPACT OF EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES.
AND AGAIN, IT SPEAKS TO OUR AGENDAS, OUR BOARD AGENDAS, UM, WHAT WE PLACE ON THOSE AGENDAS THAT PROVIDE UPDATES ON WHAT OUR STUDENTS ARE LEARNING, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO, UM, THE LAW REQUIRES, THE LAW SAYS ONE OF THE DUTIES OF A BOARD MEMBERS TO VISIT SCHOOLS AND THEY EVEN TELL EVEN GETS IT AS SPECIFIC AS THE FREQUENCY.
AND SO, UM, WE COULD DO THIS THROUGH BOARD REPORTS AT BOARD MEETINGS.
I'D LIKE TO ADD VERBIAGE THERE THROUGH, UH, REQUESTED REPORTS, I BOARD MEETINGS, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, UM, LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OF BOARD MEMBERS TO VISIT SCHOOLS, UH, AS WELL.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE COULD MAKE A SEPARATE ONE BOARD MEMBERS.
AND JUST CITE AGENDA IN SOME WAY, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW WE KEEP ABREAST.
THAT IS HOW WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN SCHOOLS.
OUR ADMINISTRATION BRINGS US REPORTS, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH SAYING A SEPARATE ONE AND WE CAN GET TO THAT ONE NEXT, IF YOU LIKE, I HAVE THE VERBIAGE FOR IT.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S, YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU.
I AGREE WITH YOU ROBIN, YOU GOT THIS ONE, SO WE'RE KEEPING NUMBER NINE.
SO NUMBER, SO A NEW NUMBER, UM, IS WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? I GOT THROUGH REQUESTED TO REPORTS AT BOARD MEETINGS.
WHAT IS YOUR VERBIAGE? UM, YEAH, THROUGH THREE REQUEST OF REPORTS AT BOARD MEETINGS.
SO WHAT IS THE BEGINNING OF THAT? SO SINCE THIS IS A NEW ONE, SO I KNOW THE, THE, THE REQUESTED REPORTS AT BOARD MEETINGS GOES WITH THE EXISTING.
THAT'S THE METHOD BY WHICH THE BOARD ACTUALLY KEEPS ABREAST OF THESE NEW PROGRAMS AND SUCH, WE'RE ASKING ADMINISTRATION TO BRING IT'S, UH, REPORTS ON WHAT'S BEING WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE OF OUR SCHOOLS.
WE WANT TO KNOW THE NEW ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.
I WASN'T SURE IF WE ROUNDED THAT TEAR.
LET ME, I DON'T NEED TO ADD THAT PART ROBIN, BECAUSE I ALREADY IN THERE.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO ADD WHAT JOANNE IS SAYING TO NUMBER NINE.
UM, THE NEW ONE IS, UM, BEFORE YOU GO ONTO THAT, JOANNE, COULD WE JUST, CAN WE FINISH WITH NUMBER NINE? ABSOLUTELY.
SO EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THE LANGUAGE AND NUMBER NINE, WHEN WE MEET I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, NOT AN ENGLISH PERSON, BUT I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THE CHANGE CHILDREN TO STUDENTS, OR KEEPS INFORMED ABOUT WHAT STUDENTS ARE LEARNING THROUGH REASONABLE REPORTS ON SCHOLASTIC ACHIEVEMENT, VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS. I THINK WE REFER TO THEM NOW AS CTE, INSTEAD OF VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT ALSO CHANGE TOO, BUT, OKAY.
SO CHANGE CHILDREN TO STUDENTS CHANGE VOCATIONAL PROGRAMS TO SEE CAREER THE TECH.
T C T E R S CTE STILL, OR IS IT C A T E? YEAH.
SO CTE IS CAREER EDUCATIONAL AND TECH.
YOU'RE AT A TECH AND EDUCATIONAL YEAH.
I JUST THINK THAT IT JUST SEEMS, UM, IT'S IT JUST UPDATED LANGUAGE, UH, FOR OUR PURPOSES.
AND WAS THERE THE GOOD CATCH THAT CHILDREN TO STUDENTS? THAT'S ABSOLUTELY.
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OKAY.I AM SORRY THAT THE NOISE HERE.
THIS IS MY COMPUTER ON THE IN AND OUT I INTERNET PROBLEM, I THINK.
OUT OF MY CONTROL AS REQUIRED BY MOM MEMBERS REGULARLY FAILED THEIR DUTY AND VISIT DISTRICT SCHOOLS AS REQUIRED BY LAW SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS REGULARLY FULFILL THEIR DUTY AND VISIT DISTRICT SCHOOLS.
SO NOW THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S REDUNDANT BECAUSE I THINK SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE DOCUMENT WE SAY, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW ALL LAWS.
I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY SPELLED OUT AS A DUTY IN, I MEAN, YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
THAT'S GOT A DIFFERENT TAKE TO IT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VISITING SCHOOLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, I DON'T SAY ANY IS FOLLOWING THE LAWS IS A LOT MORE GENERAL THAN THIS SPECIFIC ACT THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, NOT GET YOU FIRED AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER, BUT IT HAS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I THINK THERE'S A GOOD PUT THAT ONE IN THERE WOULD BE GOOD AS WELL.
MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THIS ONE IS HOW DO WE, HOW DO INDIVIDUALS KNOW THIS ABOUT OTHER SCHOOL BOARDS? WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY SHE PAIRED THE TIME REPORTS IN THERE.
RIGHT? I DIDN'T HEAR THE WORD IT'S NOT IN THERE.
I DIDN'T HEAR THAT IN THE WORDING.
AND YOU STARTED WITH BOARD MEMBERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO LIKE FAIRLY CONSISTENTLY KICKS THE ARCTIC.
CAN YOU SAY IT, CAN YOU SAY IT OVER OR CAN YOU READ WHAT SHE, WHAT YOU HAVE, UM, MR. CHRISTIAN BEAR REQUIRED BY LAW SCHOOL, BOARD MEMBERS REGULARLY FULFILL THEIR DUTY AND VISIT.
I MEAN THAT THE COMMUNITY IN THE, IN THE, IN THE PEOPLE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHO, WHO VISIT WHAT SCHOOLS, UH, BECAUSE THEY SAY GENERALLY OUR SCHOOL BOARD.
SO, AND SO IN MY HAIR, I SAW A BOARD MEMBER SHOWING SOMEBODY.
SO THEY WERE, THEY HAVE THEIR WAY OF LETTING YOU KNOW, WITH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS COME BY AND WHO DOESN'T, WHO DOESN'T.
BUT THE SCHOOLS, I BELIEVE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, MAN, THE QUESTION I THINK TRISHA HAS IT.
AND ME TOO IS HOW WOULD YOU GRADE THAT WHEN IT BECOMES A TIME FOR US EVALUATING OURSELVES, CREATING YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL VISITS, BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GRADING ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, ALL OF THE SCHOOLS, HOW MANY VISITS TO THEY GET FROM ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, LIKE I, LIKE I SAID, THAT PEOPLE TELL YOU WHEN YOU VISIT SCHOOLS, I'VE BEEN TO SCHOOLS.
PEOPLE WILL TELL ME HOW PRINCIPALS TELL ME.
I'VE HAD TEACHERS TELL ME THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY BOARD MEMBERS WE EVER SEE, OR YOU'RE, OR YOU, ARE YOU A, ONE OF THE TWO BOARD MEMBERS THAT COME BY HERE? SO THEREFORE THE PEOPLE WILL LET IT IN THE PEOPLE THAT NO ONE IN THE BUILDINGS WHO'S VISITING.
AND IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE NOT VISITING, BELIEVE ME, YOU, YOU WILL KNOW THAT THAT'S I PROMISE YOU THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT YOU WILL KNOW IF YOU, IF YOU READY TO GO REGULARLY, VISIT BUILDINGS, IT'S NOT WITHOUT A QUESTION OF A DOC AND TELL YOU ABOUT A POSSIBLY WHO VISIT WHAT BUILDINGS I HAVE A COMMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP FOR THE FUTURE BOARD, THE NEW BOARD, A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
UM, MAYBE THE NEW BOARD WILL, UH, ONE TO GROUP VISITS, MAYBE THE NEW BOARD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, MIGHT WANT TO, IT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION FOR THE NEWLY CONSTITUTED BOARD COME JANUARY.
UM, AND, AND TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, ARE WE AS, AS A BOARD, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING THAT, UM, DUTY AND REALLY GETTING INSIDE OF OUR SCHOOLS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND, YOU KNOW, BEYOND JUST OUR OWN CLUSTER, DISTRICT-WIDE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE, AND ARE WE
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DOING IT REGULARLY? IS IT A ONCE A YEAR THING? IS IT BY, YOU KNOW, BY ANNUAL? IS IT, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.I KNOW OUR EDUCATORS THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GO INSIDE THOSE SCHOOLS, THEY'RE SO APPRECIATIVE AND THEY THANK US, YOU KNOW, I WISH WE SAW MORE BOARD MEMBERS AND THAT, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.
IT'S AGAIN, SPELLED OUT IN LAWS, ONE OF OUR DUTIES AND, UM, LET'S PUT IT IN THERE AND HOPE THAT IT OPENS THE NATION WITH A FUTURE BOARD.
I THINK WE NEED TO START THE WORDING WITH BOARD MEMBERS OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT THOUGH, MAN, EVERYONE WE'VE HAD SO FAR STOPPED, RIGHT.
ROBIN, OR AM I WRONG? OH, WELL GO AHEAD AND WORD SMITH.
IT MEL, UH, WELL, WHEREVER YOU SAID, BOARD MEMBERS ADHERE TO A STATE STATUTE THAT REQUIRES CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VISITS, YOU KNOW, BY BULLET MEMBERS ON A REGULAR BASIS OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU SAID ABOUT IT.
THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE TO STATE STATUTE, UM, AND REGULARLY FULFILL THEIR DUTIES AND VISIT DISTRICT SCHOOLS.
OR MEMBERS ARE HERE TO STATE STATUES REGULARLY FULFILL THEIR DUTY AND VISIT DISTRICT.
YOU DON'T ASK THE QUESTION, RIGHT? NO, NOT DUDE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO REVERT BACK MY BACK.
THAT'S THE QUESTION IN YOUR MIND, BUT IT'S NOT AT THE WRITTEN, YOU KNOW, STATEMENT.
THAT'S THAT, THAT'S THAT SECTION.
YOU GOT ONE MORE BOARD STAYS AWARE OF ITS LIMITATIONS AND ACTS AND SETS PRIORITIES BASED ON TOTAL FINANCIAL NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM AND MAINTAINING AND, AND MAINTAINING ADEQUATE FINANCIAL RESERVE MALES, INTERNET FROZE.
UM, IT SAYS BOARD STAYS AWARE OF ITS DEBT LIMITATIONS OR SETS PRIORITIES BASED ON TOTAL FINANCIAL NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM AND MAINTAINING AN ADEQUATE FINANCIAL RESERVE.
I WOULD KEEP IT EXACTLY AS IT IS.
I MEAN, WHAT'S ANOTHER WORD THAT WE CAN PUT IN THAT INSTEAD OF STAYS AWAY CONSISTENTLY MONITORS.
SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FASHIONABLE.
I LIKED YOUR SUGGESTION ON THAT WAY.
HOW ABOUT BORDERS? NOT IN BOISE IS KNOWLEDGEABLE.
THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THE JIBO AND CONSISTENTLY MONITORS.
THAT'S PUT THEM BOTH IN THERE.
CONSISTENTLY MONITORS AND IS KNOWLEDGEABLE.
CAUSE IF YOU'RE CONSISTENTLY MONITORING IT YOU'D BE, YOU DO BECOME KNOWLEDGEABLE.
SO ARE YOU KNOWLEDGEABLE OR ARE YOU AWARE OR, UH, KNOWLEDGEABLE.
THAT'S A WAY OF PLANNING AS LONG LEG STAYS AWARE THOUGH TO ME.
THAT'S THOSE, THAT CATEGORY THAT COVERS THAT CATEGORY.
NOW WHY THEY'RE IN THAT CATEGORY? ANYBODY AGREE WITH THAT CATEGORY? BEING THE MAJOR TOPIC? LET ME GO TO THE NEXT SECTION, WHICH IS EDUCATIONAL.
I BELIEVE RIGHT? THE NEXT SECTION, BREAK THEM OUT LIKE THAT MIL.
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I DON'T KNOW.THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT FURTHER, BUT I JUST, THEY GOT, THEY GOT THAT WITNESS IN THERE.
SO I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THIS STANDPOINT IS IF THESE QUESTIONS ARE CATEGORIZED DIFFERENTLY, THEN WE PROBABLY NEED A ACROSS SECTIONS OF EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
YOU KNOW, WHEN FIRST STARTED, I TALKED ABOUT UTILIZING MANAGEMENT AND STRUCTURE AND PROCESS AND RESULTS IS PART OF OUR VISION BREAKING THIS OUT.
BUT, UH, I I'M OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTION AND TERM OF HAVING THE QUESTIONS.
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY SENSE TO ANYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? OH YEAH.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS I, UM, I ENVISION US HAVING CATEGORIES.
SO WHEN WE REVIEW HOW WE DID ON CERTAIN AREAS LIKE PROCESSES OR LIKE THE RESULT AREAS, ALL LIKE BOARD MEETINGS, WE CAN LOOK BACK AND, AND COME UP WITH A, A SCORE FOR THAT AREA AND DECIDE WHAT NEEDS TO IMPROVE.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE A, JUST AN OPEN TEST AND LOOK AT ISOLATED WISE, WE SHOULD HAVE AREAS THAT WE CAN DETERMINE WHAT PART OF IMPROVEMENT WE NEEDED TO WORK ON MOST.
DID YOU HEAR ME THIS TIME? YEAH.
NOW WHAT DUDE'S CATEGORY IS GOING TO BE? I, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I HAVEN'T DECIDED MYSELF ON ANYTHING PARTICULAR, BUT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, I SAW STRUCTURE AND PROCESS AND RESULTS AS A BOTTOM OF THE, WHAT WE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT THESE NOW AND SAY, MAYBE THESE CATEGORIES MIGHT MAKE MOST MAKE JUST AS MUCH SENSE.
SO AFTER WE GO THROUGH ALL THE QUESTIONS, MAYBE WE CAN, UH, DECIDE ON THAT.
WELL, AFTER YOU GO THROUGH THE PRESENT, MAYBE WE DECIDE, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK WE CHANGED THE ORDER OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST THINK WE DECIDE WHICH ONES GO AND DO WHICH AREA.
YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SAY THIS WAS A MATH EXAM AND YOU WERE BREAKING IT OUT INTO THE STRANDS.
YOU WOULD KNOW THAT YOUR AREA OF MEASUREMENT OR YOUR AREA OF GEOMETRY OR YOUR AREA OF ALGEBRA IS WHAT NEEDS, OKAY.
WELL, SIR, WE DIDN'T FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT BECAUSE G ALL KIDS DID BAD ON THAT.
SO WE ALL LOOK AT SOME OF THE SCHOOLS AND SAID, GEE, THAT SCORE IS DOWN.
WE ALL THOUGHT THAT OUR MEETINGS WERE HORRIBLE.
SO WE GOT TO WORK TO IMPROVE IN THE BEATINGS.
WE ALL FELT LIKE WE WEREN'T FOLLOWING THE LAW.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO NUMBER ONE.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION MARK ON IT SO THAT MAN, I DIDN'T QUITE GET IT.
NOW, WOULD YOU READ IT ALOUD? I APOLOGIZE.
LIKE HAVING TROUBLE SEEING IT ON MY SCREEN OR MEMBERS ASSIGNS NEW MEMBERS, A MENTOR TO HELP THEM LEARN THE ROPES AND PROVIDES NEW MEMBERS WITH DETAILS OF THE BOARD'S MISSION.
I'M TRUTHFUL THEN, RIGHT? OH, NO, THAT'S THE RIGHT ONE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS, I THOUGHT I WAS IN THE WRONG SECTION, BUT YEAH.
SO YOU SAID YOU GOING TO THROW THAT ONE OUT? YEAH.
THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I DID WAS GO OUT.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, REALLY THROW IT OUT.
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I THINK THAT ONE'S OKAY.BUT WHAT BOARD REQUESTS DAILY SESSION BE POSTPONED UNTIL FURTHER INFORMATION CAN BE OBTAINED.
SO THAT'D BE ONE WEEK SCHOOL, HIGH MARK ON, RIGHT.
I JUST THINK I COULD GET RID OF IT.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST OUR INNATE RIGHT.
TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW? UM, YEAH.
BUT HOW OFTEN WE DO IT, JOANNE AND SEE THAT'S I THOUGHT YOU WOULD WANT TO KEEP THAT ONE, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR FELLOW MEN ON THE BOARD MIGHT AT TIMES, I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, SEND IT BACK.
SO YOU'RE ON WATER ON IT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GO BACK.
SO I NEEDED, WE NEEDED A GRANDDAD TO SEE IF THAT'S REALLY A PROBLEM OR NOT.
WELL, I I'M RECALLING THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AT OUR LAST MEETING.
AND WE DISCUSSED ABOUT COMING OUT OF COMMITTEE OR MY MAKING A MOTION AT, UM, OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING UNDER THIS REPORT THAT SAYS THE OFFICERS WOULD SEEK THE REMOVAL OF AN AGENDA ITEM PRIOR TO POSTING AN AGENDA.
IF ALL ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTATION WAS NOT AVAILABLE.
AND, UM, THAT'S COMING, THAT'S COMING, BUT IT PUTS THE ONUS ON THE OFFICERS.
UM, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD ADEQUATE TIME.
THE OFFICERS SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY TAKE THAT ITEM OFF AND POSTPONE THAT ITEM TILL A FUTURE AGENDA TILL WE HAVE ADEQUATE INFORMATION.
YEAH, NO, IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
THIS PUTS THE ONUS ON THE INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER LAST PUMPING BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T, I CAN'T DO THAT AS AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER.
I CAN BRING A MOTION FORWARD AND ASK THE BOARD TO POSTPONEMENT.
WELL, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
I MEAN, BUT THAT'S ONE OF OUR NATIVE ABILITIES.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO SPELL THAT OUT.
YOU COULD SAY THAT NOW AT ANY GIVEN BOARD MEETING.
TO KIND OF AGREED WITH, UH
IT'S SAYING, HOW DOES THE BOARD VOTE ON THAT FROM A STANDPOINT OF MAJORITY OF NOT DO WE SEND IT BACK? DO WE LOOK AT THAT CONTRACT ONE MORE TIME? OR, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND NOW YOU'RE SAYING, DOES THE BOARD DO THIS REGULARLY? OKAY.
SO, UM, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD SCORE WELL ON THIS IF WELL, YOU'RE RIGHT.
BUT I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY.
THAT'S WHY I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO KEEP IT, KEEP IT BECAUSE IT'S ONE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
SO COULD YOU READ IT ALOUD AGAIN? I'M HAVING TROUBLE SEEING THE ACTUAL WORDS I'M STRUGGLING.
IF WE COULD READ ALOUD EACH ONE BOARD AND REQUEST A DECISION, BE POSTPONED UNTIL FURTHER INFORMATION CAN BE OBTAINED.
UM, BECAUSE IT LOOKS AT THE BOARD AS A WHOLE, UH, WE DO THIS REGULAR OR NOT.
THAT WOULD MAKE US ALL SEARCH AGAIN BECAUSE LEARNED MANY TIMES THAT A FOOD LOPSIDED, BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET IT DONE INSTEAD OF REALLY LOOKING AT THE MESS A FEW TIMES.
IT WAS ALL ABOUT BECOMING A BETTER BOARD.
BOARD CONDUCTS AN EXPLICIT EXAMINATION OF ITS RESPONSIBILITIES DISCUSSING ITS RULE IN DISTRICT MANAGEMENT.
HOW WOULD YOU SAY ITS ROLE IN DISTRICT MANAGEMENT OR YEAH.
AND DISTRICT MANAGEMENT, NOT PARTICULARLY MEANING INVOLVED IN THIS FLEET MANAGEMENT.
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I THINK IT, YOUR RULE OVERALL AS A PART OF THAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, I THINK HE THREW THIS ONE OUT BECAUSE WE ALREADY DISCUSSED, WE ALREADY COVERED IT EARLIER, BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.I THINK THIS, I THINK THIS ONE, MAYBE ZERO ZEROING IN ON WHETHER THE BOARD, UM, DISCUSSES IT.
THE FIRST ONE IS, ARE WE AWARE OF THE SEPARATION AND DO WE RESPECT IT? BUT THIS ONE SEEMS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOCUSED ON JUST THE BOARD PERIODICALLY SIT DOWN AS A BODY AND EVALUATE, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THIS EVALUATION IS, ISN'T IT? UM, NEVERMIND SCRATCH THAT THIS EVALUATION WOULD SERVE, AS I WOULD ASSUME IN THE FUTURE, A DISCUSSION, A FULL BOARD DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER WE'RE, WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING THOUGHTFUL OF THAT AND MINDFUL OF THAT SEPARATION.
NOW LET ME ASK YOU, THIS IS THIS COMMITTEE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS PART OF OUR SCOPE AND I ASKED, WELL, AND TRICIA THE SAME.
ARE WE ALSO GOING TO SPELL OUT WHAT THE FORMAT OF THE SELF EVALUATION WILL BE? UM, WILL IT BE SIMILAR TO, UH, WHAT WE DO WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT? IN OTHER WORDS, FILL OUT OUR FORMS PRIVATELY AND THEN CONVENE AS A BODY YOU WOULDN'T RIGHT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHERS THING, BUT YEAH, I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO INDEPENDENTLY AGREED.
CREATED FROM WHAT YOU THINK AND THEN BE A COMPILER, UH, A COMPOSITE AND LOOK AT IT FROM THE CATEGORY STANDPOINT.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT INDIVIDUALLY AND THEN CREATE A SPREADSHEET AND POPULATE THE SPREADSHEET WITH EVERYONE'S SCORES AND, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH THE AREAS OF WHERE WEAKNESS, AREAS OF STRENGTH AND THAT'S THAT PROMPTS THE DISCUSSION THAT YOU HAVE.
NOW HIT BACK ON THAT QUESTION.
SO WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON THAT QUESTION.
I DON'T THINK, UH, WHAT IT REALLY MEANS.
WELL, I THINK WHEN, IF YOU FOLLOW THAT FORMAT THAT TRISHA JUST PRESENT IT AND YOU'RE DOING IT IN A PUBLIC BOARD MEETING, OBVIOUSLY NOT EXECUTIVE STASHING.
UM, THEN YOU ARE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AND THIS IS BEING, UM, ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? HM NAH, MAN, THAT MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS MY NUMBER THREE IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR.
I THINK NUMBER THREE IS IT'S MORE ON THE ANNALS OF THE NEW MEMBERS.
SO YOU SAID TOSS IT, WELL, I THINK NUMBER 10 IS PERHAPS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, FORD HAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF ITS PERFORMANCE.
THAT'S WHAT THE EVALUATION WITH ENTAIL.
I THINK THAT WHEN THERE IS TALKING ABOUT A PARTICULAR AD, THAT'S ALMOST, UH, SIMILAR TO, TO THE ONE YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT THE VISITING SCHOOLS, EXCEPT IT'S ON A LOCAL LEVEL NUMBER.
BOARD MEMBERS HAVE VISITED SCHOOLS.
I THINK THIS IS A DISTRICT LEVEL, OUR BOARD VERSUS OUR DISTRICT.
HOW FAR CAN YOU DELVE INTO THE DISTRICTS ROLE? AND WE HAVE THAT EXPLICIT CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, WHAT THE SUPERINTENDENT IS POSSIBLE, WHAT WE CAN DO AND CANNOT DO.
I, YEAH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW.
AND I THINK THAT THAT SPEAKS VERY SPECIFICALLY TO OUR GOVERNANCE MODEL AROUND THOSE GUIDELINES.
VERY CLEARLY, VERY SUCCINCTLY.
AND UM, SO MAYBE THIS ONE, NO, THEY SAY THE BOARD REGULARLY ADDRESSES,
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UM, IT'S ALIGNMENT OR ITS ADHERENCE TO, UH, IT'S, IT'S CHOSEN GOVERNANCE MODEL.I MEAN, THAT'S THE GOVERNANCE MODEL DEFINES HOW WE ARE TO BEHAVE AS A BOARD WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DO SO IN DISCUSSING THE GOVERNANCE MODEL WE'VE CHOSEN, WE CAN ALSO SELF EVALUATE OURSELVES AS TO ARE WE, ARE WE ADHERING TO IT? ARE WE ALIGNING TO IT? I KNOW.
AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
UH, NO, I MEAN, WE HAVE THIS WHOLE YEAR, WE'VE HAD THAT BATTLE AMONGST BOARD MEMBERS ITSELF, THE GOVERNANCE ALLOWS US TO DO IT OR ARE WE OVERSTEPPING, SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE KEEP THIS OR NOT? I THINK THAT, UH, WHAT JOEY, ON THAT, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THE INTERPRETATION OF THIS, UH, HOW WELL WE ADHERE TO, UM, OUR GOVERNANCE MODEL.
AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT SELF-ASSESSMENT RIGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIGGIE.
THE LAND'S WORDING WAS I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, PRETTY GOOD.
I DIDN'T HEAR THE WORDING BECAUSE I GOT TUNED OUT AGAIN, BUT RIGHT.
GO AHEAD AND PUT, PUT IT IN THERE.
AND ROBIN, I, I HEAR WHAT JOANNE WAS SAYING AGAIN.
UM, THE BOARD PERIODICALLY REVIEWS, IT'S AN ADHERENCE TO ITS CHOSEN GOVERNANCE MODEL.
THE BOARD PERIODICALLY REVIEWS IS ADHERENCE TO ITS CHOSEN GOVERNANCE MODEL.
AT LEAST ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS, THE BOARD HAS A RETREAT OR SPECIAL SESSION TO EXAMINE ITS PERFORMANCE.
SO I WOULD JUST, JUST SAY ANNUALLY, THE BOARD, UM, REVIEWS ITS PERFORMANCE.
THAT'S IN POLICY, CORRECT? WE DO A SELF EVALUATION AS A BOARD ANNUALLY.
BUT JOANNE COULDN'T WE JUST ADD THAT TO NUMBER 10? YEAH.
TAKE IT, TAKE THIS ONE OUT ALL TOGETHER AND ADD AT IT.
ANNUALLY BOARD ANNUALLY PERFORMS A SELF EVALUATION.
SO THIS ONE TALKS ABOUT HAVING A RETREAT, LIKE A DEDICATED MEETING THAT WOULD DO THIS.
SO DOES THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO KEEP? I DON'T THINK OUR POLICY SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A RETREAT.
JUST SAYS WE HAVE TO DO THE EVENT ANNUAL SELFIE BELL.
I THINK THIS IS WHY THIS IS ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT HAS A TWO PARTS.
THE BOARD HAS A RETREAT TO EXAMINE ITS PERFORMANCE.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE GET RID OF IT RETREAT, GET RID OF RETREAT NUMBER FOUR AND JUST ADD ANNUALLY TO NUMBER 10.
CAN'T PUT A QUESTION ON A TEST WHERE, YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS ALREADY.
EVERYBODY GOING TO GET IT WRONG.
SO WE'RE DELETING NUMBER FOUR.
BOARD IS GIVEN AND READS THE AGENDA AND BACKGROUND MATERIAL.
WELL, AGAIN, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I CAN'T DETERMINE WHETHER SOMEONE ELSE READS IT.
I MEAN, I CAN'T MAKE THE WORD READS.
SO BOARD HAS PROVIDED THE AGENDA AND BACKGROUND MATERIALS.
WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING, RIGHT? YOU THINK BOARD IS PROVIDED THE AGENDA, JUST TAKE OUT THE AGENDA AND BACKGROUND AND GOT IT.
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MATERIALS.WELL IN ADVANCE RIGHT OF THE TENANT.
LET ME SAY SOMETHING HERE BY LAW.
WE ONLY HAVE TO POST OUR FINAL AGENDA 24 HOURS BEFORE.
AND TYPICALLY AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE AS A BOARD MEMBER, THAT'S WHEN I SEE THE FINAL AGENDA, THE DRAFT HAS BEEN FLOATING AROUND, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT AT THAT 24 HOUR MARK, WE MAY SEE A REVISED VERSION OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOING TO POST.
SO, UM, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A BOARD POLICY THAT SAYS I COULD BE WRONG.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GET THAT AGENDA, UM, IN ADVANCE OF THE LAW'S REQUIREMENT OF 24 HOURS.
SO YOU HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT I HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU THE STUFF ON THAT THURSDAY.
THERE IS A POLICY FOR THAT ROBIN, ISN'T IT JUST THE MATERIALS OR IS IT THE DRAFT AGENDA AS WELL? WELL, IT IS IT'S IMPLIED BECAUSE YOU GET THE MATERIALS BASED OFF OF WHAT'S ON THE, SOMETIMES THERE ARE AGENDA ITEMS AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE THE DON'T HAVE MATERIALS ATTACHED TO THEM.
AND SO AS FAR AS US, SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT WHAT THIS ALL BOILS DOWN TO IS HAVING A HEADS UP ONLY 24 HOURS PRIOR TO YOUR BOARD MEETING AND WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FACED WITH SOME MAY OR MAY SOME OF THOSE TOPICS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE MATERIALS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
SO THE AGENDA PART OF THIS VERBIAGE OF THIS ITEM WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE REALLY, WE DON'T DEMAND THE SUPPORT THAT WE GET THE AGENDA, THE FINISHED AGENDA, WELL IN ADVANCE SOME SCHOOL BOARDS, DO WE DON'T WE FOLLOWED THE STATE THAT WE FOLLOW THE LAWS THAT SAY 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S A POLICY CHANGE.
THE BOARD WANTS TO MAKE GOING FORWARD.
MAYBE THAT'LL COME UP AT THE WORK SESSION WHEN WE REVISIT POLICIES.
OR RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT 24 HOURS.
UM, IT IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE WHERE WE GET THE FINAL AGENDA, UH, UH, WITH MORE ADVANCED NOTICE THAN 24 HOURS.
SO, SO I GUESS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WORDING OF THIS PARTICULAR ONE HERE.
WELL, I THINK TO MEL'S POINT THAT HE HAS, BUT I'VE HEARD HIM AS YOU KNOW, SUGGESTING TO US OVER THE PAST MANY MEETINGS WE'VE HAD IS SO IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIS, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA RANK IT A ZERO.
IF YOU THINK YOU NEVER GET IT.
AND THEREFORE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE VALUE IN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE LATER.
UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A ZERO OR I'M NOT YOU, BUT I MEAN, SOMEONE'S GOING TO SCORE IT LOW OR SOMEONE.
UM, BUT THEN WE WANT TO AUTOMATICALLY SET US UP FOR FAILURE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S A REAL QUESTION THERE.
IF THE REAL ANSWER IS LOW, THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT REAL QUESTION.
UM, IT'LL PROMPT THE DISCUSSION, WHICH MAY LEAD TO POSITIVE CHANGE.
RIGHT? THERE YOU GO A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S WHY I KNEW WE WERE GONNA, THAT I KEEP IT.
THAT'S ONE THAT YOU DRAW ALONG, REAL DISCUSSION ALREADY ON THIS AND WHAT WE HAVE VERSUS WHAT WE THINK WE NEED.
BOARD PARTICIPATES IN IN-SERVICE PROGRAMS AT A REGIONAL STATE AND NATIONAL LEVELS.
WELL, WHAT'S HE GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT ONE? OH, WE DO.
WE DO STATE TO STATE, BUT UH, WE'VE NEVER DID A NATIONAL SINCE TWO YEARS AND WE HADN'T, WE HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO GO TO NOTHING NATIONAL, THE BOARD, DESPERATE DISSIPATE NATIONAL, THE BOARD DOES PARTICIPATE IN NATIONAL THAT'S I THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
I SAID, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR TWO YEARS AND I HAVEN'T HAD
AND, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I STATED FOR THE RECORD.
I SAID THAT I HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO ANYTHING NATIONAL, BUT I'VE DONE SOMETHING FOR THE STATE.
AND IN THE CONCLUSION OF WHAT I JUST SAID, I THINK THAT
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THIS QUESTION IS RELEVANT.MAY I NOW, AND, AND TRISHA AND, AND WELL, AND ROBIN, YOU CAN ADD FURTHER CLARIFICATION THE WAY WE HAVE HAVE IT STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW IS THAT CERTAIN BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND, SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, THE NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARDS CONVENTION.
CORRECT? SO THE FULL BOARD AT ANY GIVEN YEAR DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY FOR ALL OF US TO ATTEND, BUT SELECT MEMBERS WOULD BASED ON WHAT DO WE DO, ROTATE ROBIN, YOU ROTATE YOU THAT'S FOR NAT, FOR NATIONAL BOARD.
THE FULL BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE FOR THE STATE AND LOCAL, BUT NATIONALLY, BECAUSE OF YOUR BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, YOU DON'T PARTICIPATE AS A FULL BOARD.
SO LET'S JUST CHANGE THE WORDING OF THIS ITEM TO SHOW THAT, UM, STATE AND LOCAL, WE CERTAINLY HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT.
BUT, UM, WE COULD SAY, AND NATIONAL WITHIN, UM, EXISTING PARAMETERS AND THE PARAMETERS COULD BE, DO WE HAVE A POLICY SOMEWHERE OR A RAG ROBIN, WHICH DEFINES HOW WE HASH THAT OUT EVERY YEAR? WHO GETS TO GO TO NEXT? NO, NO.
YOU JUST HAVE A PRACTICE AND YOU AS A BOARD DECIDING BASED ON YOUR BUDGET, BUT IT SAYS BOARD PARTICIPATES.
SO THE BOARD DOES PARTICIPATE.
IT'S A REGIONAL STATE AND NATIONAL, JUST LIKE THE FULL BOARD THAT WE PARTICIPATE ALL THE TIME, THE REGIONAL STUFF OR IT'S STATE STUFF.
LET'S UM, HE HAS PRACTICE HAS DICTATED WHAT WE'VE DONE IN REGARD TO ATTENDING NATIONAL.
WHAT ABOUT, HAVE WE HAD ANY BOOK LIKE, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME OUT OF STATE TRAVEL BY BOARD MEMBERS.
I KNOW OUR ALL ATTENDED A CONFERENCE IN FLORIDA OR SOMETHING NOT, I REMEMBER HIM SAYING IT WASN'T A NATIONAL SCHOOL BOARDS CONVENTION, BUT IT WAS OUT OF STATE.
IT'S A NATIONAL, IT WAS A NATIONAL CONFERENCE.
THERE WAS THE NATIONAL SCHOOL SAFETY.
I DO AGREE WITH JIM IS OR SHACK.
I THINK THAT THE WAY YOU WORD THAT QUESTION, IT GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT IN THE TEETH OF IT.
AND THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE IS DIRECT.
UM, SO LET'S LOOK AT THE WORDING OF THIS, JUST SO IT'S CLEAR TO PARTICULARLY NEW BOARD MEMBERS, THEY MAY NOT KNOW WHAT OUR PAST PRACTICE HAS BEEN OR THAT THERE MAY BE SOME RESTRICTIONS OR NATIONAL TRAVEL VERSUS LOCAL.
LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE WORDING ONCE.
SO BRIDGING THE TWO QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE IT TWO QUESTIONS.
WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I LIKED THAT IDEA.
SO DO YOU ONE QUESTION PERTAINING TO LOCAL AND STATE, RIGHT? AND THEN AS A SEPARATE QUESTION, LET'S, LET'S PUNCH THAT OUT AND MAKE IT, UH, ANOTHER, UM, BECAUSE YOU ARE LOOKING AT MORE SIGNIFICANT COSTS ASSOCIATED SOMETIMES WITH OUR TRAVEL.
UM, SO YEAH, LET'S, I WOULD SAY MAKE IT A SEPARATE QUESTION.
CAUSE IT SEEMS TO HAVE DIFFERENT PLANE, YOU KNOW? OH YEAH.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, BECAUSE I THINK IF WE DO IT NATIONALLY, THEN THAT IMPACTS YOUR, YOUR GRADE ON IT.
AND IT DOESN'T MANDATE THAT WE ALL DO IT NATIONALLY.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.
HOW ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY JUST DO DIFFERENT GRETCHEN'S BECAUSE IT'S ASKING YOU ABOUT, IS ASKING YOU ABOUT, UH, ABOUT PARTICIPATING IN, IN SERVICE PROGRAMS, REGIONAL STATE AND NATIONALLY.
AND ACTUALLY SOME OF US MAY PARTICIPATE NATIONALLY AND SOME OF US MAY NOT PARTICIPATE STATE.
SO I'M 70 M YOU ANSWER FOR VSA FOR ONE, IT SAYS SOME OF US DO FOR STATE THAT YOU NEED AND YOU GIVE THEM TO YOU GIVING A FORCE, A FORCE ANSWER BECAUSE SOME OF US MAY JUST DO STATE AND SOME, ALL, SOME OF US MAY DO NATIONAL AND NOBODY TO STAY.
I DON'T DO PARTICIPATE WITH ANYTHING WITHIN STATE.
SO I HAVE TO GO OUT OF STATE EVERY TIME, BUT NEVER DO ANYTHING.
SO, UH, MAN, I, I AM READING IT DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU GUYS, BUT
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YOU PROBABLY RIGHT.IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTICIPATING, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE MORE THAN PARTICIPATING.
YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT THE PARTICIPATION, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE AGREEING ON.
IF WE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY, THEN WE WOULD BE GREEDY ON THE PARTICIPATION, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THREE RATED TO GRADE ON THAT TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WE'LL THINK ABOUT IT AND SAY, HEY, AIN'T HAPPENING.
SO I'M GOING TO GIVE IT A FOUR.
HOW WAS THIS GOING TO SAY THAT HAD 11 BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVERYBODY NOT TO GO OUT OF STATE.
YOU KNOW, SO THOSE THAT WANT TO GO, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD HANDLE THEM, BUT ABSOLUTELY.
WE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMEONE GO TO WASHINGTON DC EVERY YEAR TO TALK WITH THEIR LEGISLATORS.
SO EARLY, MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION ON THAT? CAN YOU ME, IS THAT A PART OF OUR POLICY OR PROGRAM OR IS THAT A LIVABLE THAT'S MADE AVAILABLE TO BOARD MEMBERS TO GO TO WATSON EXAMPLE, HEY, IT'S AVAILABLE IF YOU WANT TO GO.
THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN ONLY THREE PEOPLE HAVE WENT, MY STAFF, MR. RIVERS.
AND I THINK MR. SPEAKS AT WENT ONE IN TIME ALSO, BUT IT'S NOT, AS LONG AS AT LEAST WE SHOULD HAVE ONE PERSON TO GO AND SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA LEGISLATORS FROM SOUTH CAROLINA ABOUT ISSUES THAT PERTAIN TO EDUCATION.
AT LEAST I'M TRYING TO GET REAL.
WE WANT TO LEAVE THIS ON THERE FOR A GREETING OR WHETHER WE WANT TO CHANGE IT.
SO IT IS EASIER TO, TO UNDERSTAND.
WELL I THINK MAYBE WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT AS A BOARD, THE QUESTION OR WHAT WE DO.
WELL, WHY DON'T WE DO, WE MAY NEED TO DISCUSS IT AS A BOARD, BUT THIS QUESTION, HOW DO WE WORD IT SO THAT IT LEADS TO A DISCUSSION BY THE BOARD.
SO YOU WANT TWO DIFFERENT ONES, THE REGIONAL AND STATE.
AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION STATING ABOUT THE NATIONAL.
I CAN AGREE WITH THAT AND JUST BE DONE WITH IT.
IT WAS THE WORDING TAKE OUT NATIONAL ONE ON NUMBER SIX AND THEN NUMBER SEVEN, EVERYBODY AGREE WITH IT.
SO NUMBER SEVEN WOULD BE THE SAME AS SIX, BUT IT WOULD SAY BOARD PARTICIPATES IN IN-SERVICE PROGRAMS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
NEW BOY PARTICIPATES IN IN-SERVICE PROGRAMS AT NATIONAL LEVELS, NOT NEW BULLET.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT WILL PROMPT SOME DISCUSSION, JUST ISOLATED IN THAT WAY.
NUMBER SIX IS GOING TO GET GLOWING REVIEWS.
ANY OF THE ACCESS BOARD MEMBERS PARTICIPATE REGULARLY AT THOSE TWO, BUT THIS ONE BY SEPARATING IT, YOU'RE GOING TO, I THINK A NEW, UM, NEW INPUT WILL COME FORWARD FROM THE BOARD, WHETHER THIS IS A PRIORITY.
DO WE NEED A POLICY? YOU KNOW, IS IT LIMITED WITH, SO IT'S BEEN, I LIKED THIS AS A SEPARATE ITEM.
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BEFORE.WE HAVE ONE BOARD MEMBER RECENTLY SUGGESTED A LESSONS LEARNED DISCUSSION TO BE PLACED ON OUR WORK SESSION AGENDA.
I BELIEVE WHERE THE BOARD EVALUATES, UM, HOW IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BETTER OR WHAT LED US ASTRAY, UM, ON THE K-12, UH, CONTRACT AND NEGOTIATIONS.
YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS A BOARD MEMBER THAT'S GOING TO BE WITH US, UM, FOR SOME TIME GOING FORWARD.
SO NOW WE DON'T USUALLY REVISIT THOSE THINGS, BUT, UM, YOU MAY BE DOING THAT GOING FORWARD.
UH, WHO KNOWS? IS IT A GOOD THING? I THINK SO IT WE'LL SEE WHEN WE WANT TO SEE IT, THE WORKSTATION, IF IT'S PRODUCTIVE OR NOT.
SO YOU DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN NUMBER 10? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO IS JUST CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THESE, SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT.
THAT'S PROBABLY COVERED A COUPLE OF OTHER PLACES TOO.
BUT WHEN YOU, UM, READ NUMBER 10, AGAIN, IT SAYS BOARD HAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF ITS PERFORMANCE.
WELL, IT'S SUCH A MIXED, A LITTLE DIFFERENT VERSION BECAUSE ONE IS TALKING ABOUT MISTAKES VERSUS, UM, EFFECTIVENESS.
AFFECTIVENESS IS A PART OF MISTAKES, BUT I THINK AFFECTIVE AFFECTIVENESS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT VERSUS MAKING THE OTHER DAY WAS A MISTAKE THAT THE BOARD MADE AND IT WASN'T AFFECTED BECAUSE OF HOW THEY DID IT.
BUT IT WAS A MISTAKE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN BEING AN EFFECTIVE TO ME.
DID THEY KIND OF HAVE IT IN THE SAME FAMILY, BUT THEY DID.
THEY DID TWO THAT THERE ARE TWO PERSONALIZED DIFFERENT THINGS TO ME, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
WELL, I REFLECTING ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THAT MAY SENSE AND THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIALIZED, BUT TRICIA POINT IS THAT EVERYTHING FITS UNDER NUMBER 10, BUT I THINK THEY INTEND TO SPECIALIZE IT NUMBER SEVEN, I THINK.
I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT BECAUSE THAT'S, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING SO FAR THAT ISN'T A SINGULAR PLACE WITHOUT YEAH.
THAT I, I, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, IT WAS A BOARD, BUT THIS ONE SAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
THE BOARD HAD PARTICIPATED, WELL, THE BOARD PARTICIPATES IN REVIEWING HIS PROCESSES.
UH, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT PARTICIPATES IN REVIEWING THE PROCESS WHEN ERRORS WERE MADE WITH THE BOARD, THE BOARD, THE BOARD HAS THE BOARD HAVE PARTICIPATED IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE BOARD SHOULD DO DIFFERENTLY AS A RESULT OF A MISTAKE MADE.
I WOULD KEEP IT JUST LIKE THAT, BUT I WOULD JUST PUT THE BOARD HALF THE BOARD HAVE A DISCUSSION.
NOW, MR. CHRISTIAN READ THE UNION.
DID YOU GET THAT? SOUNDS GOOD.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO STOP IMMEDIATELY LOOK AT SOMETHING.
IF IT'S WRONG, YOU LOOK AT IT WITHOUT WAITING UNTIL WE GET TO THIS ANNUAL ASSESSMENT OR STUFF LIKE THAT.
NORMALLY FULL LEADERSHIP GOES OUT OF HIS WAY
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TO MAKE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION ON IMPORTANT ISSUES.LET ME THROW THE CATCH-UP AT THIS ONE.
UH, MS. PHAGES, MAYBE YOU, UH, MS.
I THINK WE COULD JUST MAKE IT ALL MEMBER, ALL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION ON IMPORTANT ISSUES.
OR DON'T PUT NO RESPONSIBILITY ON ANYONE SPECIFICALLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ANY, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S OUR BOARD ENTIRELY TO SET THE TONE FOR EVEN THE OFFICES.
SO THE IDEA GENERALLY IS THE, DO WE, DO WE HAVE THINGS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE INFORMATION, BUT I WAS THINKING BACK, I REMEMBER WHAT MR. SHACK WAS TALKING ABOUT.
UH, WHAT WERE WE TALKING ABOUT HAVING, GIVEN THE OFFICERS, HAVING THEM TAKE OWNERSHIP? A, WE WERE SAYING THAT WE DID THAT.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A CERTAIN AREA WHERE WE ACTUALLY JUST ABOUT THE OFFICERS OF THE AUDIT CHAIR.
SO THIS COULD BE ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
DAVID, I THINK THAT THIS ONE FOCUSES ON LEADERSHIP.
YOU COULD USE THE WORD LEADERSHIP OR YOU COULD USE THE WORD OFFICERS.
IT'S AN ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE FOR SUBSET OF THE BOARD.
AND I THINK SO HOW DO YOU WORD IT? I WOULD WANT TO BE YES, BUT I'M OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS.
WELL, WHAT IT DOES GO OUT OF ITS WAY, MEAN HOW FAR DOES THAT GO? UH
THAT'S A GOOD WORDING VOLUME THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
I MEAN, YOU MAY HAVE, UH, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE, UH, AVENUES AVAILABLE TO YOU AS OFFICERS TO REACH OUT TO YOUR BOARD.
YOU HAVE ELECTRONIC MEDIUM, YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PHONE CALLS YOU HAVE, UM, WHICH ISN'T MY PREFERRED METHOD, BUT, UM, SO YOU HAVE VARIOUS WAYS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, UH, FOR THE FULL BOARD.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S UH, TO ME THAT'S EXPENDABLE LANGUAGE GOES OUT OF IT JUST RIGHT.
WE NEED TO KNOW THAT THE OFFICERS WILL MAKE GOOD ON THAT COMMITMENT TO INFORM THE FULL BOARD AS OPPOSED TO GOOD, NICE LEAD THE SENTENCE.
I WOULD SAY GO OUT OF THIS WAY BECAUSE IN MY MIND GO OUT OF HIS WAY, IT'S LIKE YOU WALKED IN MILES, YOU'RE A FORMER PRISONER OF SOMETHING.
THAT IS SO, UH, WHICH, UH, WHICH, WHICH, UM, W WHERE DID YOU, WHAT DID YOU WANT TO USE? THE WORDS THAT I SAID, OR I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR WORDS.
NO, I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT WHEN I WERE ON YOU.
UH, WHAT WOULD THAT SAY? IT'S NOT SAID THAT, UH, POOR LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, MY SHAMANS ARE SHOT.
I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING, UM, MAKE CERTAIN WITHIN THEIR MEANS OR WITHIN THEIR ABILITIES.
W E B BOARD LEADERSHIP, UH, BORE READ THE BOARD, LEADERSHIPS, BULLIES SHIP, UH, REACHES OUT WITHIN THEIR, WITHIN THEIR MEANS AND THEIR ABILITY TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT MEMBERS HAVE THIS SAY THAT SAME INFORMATION.
BOBBY, YOU GOT THAT TYPING, QUITE LEADERSHIP REACHES OUT WITH THEIR MEANS AND ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE THE SAME ON IMPORTANT ISSUES.
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LEADERSHIP REACHES OUT BOARD, BOARD LEADERSHIP, REACHES OUT.UM, DO YOU WANT TO, AGAIN,
UH, THEY MAKE A, UH, ATTEMPT NOT TO TELL WHAT DID THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY CAN ENSURE THAT THAT IS DONE.
THEY WENT THAT EVERY AVENUE TO, TO GET IT DONE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
THAT'S FINE WHERE WE HAVE, UM, HERE'S THE VERBIAGE I DON'T CARE ABOUT.
CAUSE OUT OF HIS WAY, ALL OF, ANY OF THAT VERBIAGE, WHAT I CARE ABOUT IS IMPORTANT ISSUES, RIGHT.
UM, THAT SHOULD NOT BE LEFT UP TO INTERPRETATION.
WE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS IMPORTANT.
WE DIDN'T SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE WORD IMPORTANT.
UM, SO LET'S JUST SAY ON ALL ISSUES REMOVED IMPORTANT THIS WAY, IT TAKES OUT THE SUBJECTIVE NATURE,
SO I HAVE BOARD LEADERSHIP REACHES OUT WITH THEIR MEANS AND ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL MEMBERS HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION ON ISSUES.
I READ THROUGH THE BOARD'S POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND EMPLOYEE CONTRACTS.
SO, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO COVER IN THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THEIR POSSIBILITIES OF BEING A MEMBER OF A BREAST UP POLICIES ALREADY? SOMETHING THAT BOARD MEMBERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RE I THINK THIS IS TOO QUICK.
THIS COULD BE TWO QUESTIONS TO READ EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTS, MR. EARL.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTRAST, YOU TURNED THIS TALKING ABOUT THE ONE YOU HIDE.
YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TEACHERS CONTRACT THAT I THINK THAT, I THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL IDEA OF THE TEACHER CONTRACT MORE SO THAN THE SPECIFIC TEACHER CONTRACT.
I JUST THINK THEY TALKING ABOUT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORDING OF E TEACHER'S CONTRACT, DO YOU KNOW THE WORDING OF A PRINCIPAL'S CONTRACTOR? I'D BE THE FIRST TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW THOSE WORDINGS.
YOU KNOW, AND WE SHOULDN'T BECAUSE, UH, LAST TIME, UH, I KNOW IN THE PAST, SO I THINK WE'VE STOPPED NOW, BUT WE USED TO APPROVE THOSE CONTRACTS NOW, BUT YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.
SO, SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT WE ARE APPROVING.
I THINK THAT I DON'T BLAME ANYBODY FOR THAT, BUT FOR ME KNOWING WHAT THAT CONTRACT IS SAY, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES TEACHERS ARE TERMINATING IT SEPARATELY AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE LETTER OF THEIR CONTRACT OR NOT SOMETIMES.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT I THINK.
BUT SO THIS QUESTION, IS IT LEAD? DO IT MAN OR NOT? THAT'S THE QUESTION? UH, ASK THE QUESTION.
DO NEEDS TO, UH, THE QUESTION DUTIES OR MAY I WISH WE COULD POSSIBLY EVEN, OKAY.
I'VE GOT A, I GOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR THIS ENTIRE ITEM.
I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE AN EVALUATION MEASURE SOMEWHERE EARLIER IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT SAYS WE ADHERE TO OUR POLICIES.
SO LET'S TAKE THAT GUN OUT OF THERE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HERE MAKE HER SMELLY IS THE BOARD, UM, SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT.
AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THE WORDING HERE, UM, THAT ANY CONTRACT THAT THE BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING THAT WE HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY PRIOR TO ANYTHING ABOUT TO REVIEW THAT PROPOSED DOCUMENT PERIOD.
I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S A TEACHER
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CONTRACT, WHICH WE DO, ROBIN IS CORRECT.WE DO THAT IN A BIG OLD BATCH, RIGHT? UH, NO BIG BATCH.
AND WHEN WE DO THAT BATCH, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT GENERAL CONTRACT RIGHT BESIDE US AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT SAID, OR I REVIEWED IT THE DAY BEFORE.
THAT'S ALL THE SUMMER HIRING IS DONE.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE CONTRACTS AND SAY, WE KNOW WHAT IT'S SAYING.
THEY MIGHT WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO IT OR SOMETHING.
MY WORDING REALLY ISN'T FOCUSED ON ANY SPECIFIC TYPE OF CONTRACT, ALL CONTRACTS TO VOTE, TO, TO APPROVE A CONTRACT, WHETHER IT BE A TEACHER OR A BUILDING CONTRACT, OR TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY OR AN AUDITING FIRM, WE NEED TO SEE IT FIRST.
IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT, WE NEED TO SEE IT.
SO YOU HELPED ME WITH THE WORDING HERE.
WE, AS THE BOARD, WE, THE BOARD HAD READ CONTRACTS PRIOR TO MAKING DECISIONS.
PRIOR TO APPROVAL, UM, AND APPROVAL I GO INTO, WE GO FROM NOW THE BOARD, THE REST OF IT.
AS ACCESS TO ALL CONTRACTS PRIOR TO APPROVAL.
THE WOUNDINGS THE BOY, THE BOY HAS THE BOY HAVE READ THROUGH ALL CONTRACTS PRIOR TO APPROVAL.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KNOW WHETHER THEY READ IT OR NOT?
HOW'S THAT? OH, IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH ALL CONTRACTS COME ALL CONTRACTS PRIOR TO APPROVAL.
OH, WE ALREADY DECIDED TO DO 10.
RIGHT? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TIMING.
THEY'VE HAD, THE CURRENTLY WOULD HAVE HAD, WOULD HAVE HAD THE, DID HAVE ENOUGH TIME OR THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE TOO BOARD.
I'VE HAD, YOU SAID THE OPPORTUNITY OR SOMETHING THAT YOU, I THINK I KNOW WHAT, WHERE WILL IS GOING HERE.
WE CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, READ THROUGH A PROPOSAL, A PROPOSED CONTRACT, AND THEN BE EXPECTED TO GO OUT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING HIM, VOTE ON THAT CONTACT.
AS I THINK WHAT WHEEL IS PROPOSING IS PUT SOME VERBIAGE IN THERE THAT ALLOWS US MORE TIME THAN THAT, UM, TO MAKE A VOTE OR A DECISION ON A CONTRACT, BEEN TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS.
WE TRYING TO DECIDE, DO WE HAVE THIS THING OR NOT? AND THEN WE MADE THE POLICY THAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING THAT MAKE ANY SENSE.
WE'RE READING A QUESTION THAT EVALUATES WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WELL, WE ALREADY GOT ONE EARLIER THAT TALKED ABOUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION OR THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT THE INFORMATION AND WE SHOULD VOTE NOT TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS.
THAT'S THAT'S, IF THOSE CONTRACTS ARE PRESENTED.
AND WE SAID, WELL, I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DO IT.
I MOVED THAT WE DIDN'T DO NOT MOVE ON THESE.
THE BULLETS SHOULD HAVE MORE NOT TO DO IT.
IF THEY'RE OPERATING EFFECTIVELY.
YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TIME.
SO IT'S LIKE THE OTHER THING YOU CAN'T DETERMINE WHO READS OR WHO DOESN'T, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO HAS ENOUGH TIME? WHAT MIGHT BE ENOUGH TIME FOR ONE BOARD MEMBER IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR THE OTHER BOARD MEMBER.
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SO HOW DO YOU QUALIFY TIME? THEY WON'T COMPLAIN.OR IF WE HAD BOARD MEMBERS SAYING, I MEAN, LIKE, I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME AT THE MEETING THAT OBVIOUSLY BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD THAT THEY'RE NOT THERE NOT HAVING ENOUGH TIME.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY YOU DO THE, TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S WHAT I PUT ON YOUR MOTION THAT WE DON'T VOTE ON THIS BECAUSE, AND THE BOARD WOULD MAKE THAT DECISION RATHER THAN IT WAS ENOUGH TIME OR NOT ENOUGH TIME.
WELL, OVER AND OVER, I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS GOOD WITHOUT A TIME THING.
I THINK, WELL, THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT VOTING WITHOUT ANY PRIOR INFORMATION AT ALL, PARTICULARLY IN TERMS OF CONTRACTS AND YOU ADDED ENOUGH WHERE WE NEED TO SEE THE CONTRACTS.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MAN.
UM, WE ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER ESTABLISHED, UM, LINE ITEM THAT REQUIRES US ADEQUATE TIME WITH ANY ITEMS. THE BOARD'S GOT TO SEE IT IN ADVANCE.
OTHERWISE I I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
WELL THE LAST ONE WE AGREED TO KEEP ALREADY, RIGHT.
IS THE NEED ANY ENHANCEMENTS? WE NEED TO ADD ANYTHING TO IT.
MR. CAMPBELL, CAN WE, SO WHAT WAS DECIDED ABOUT NUMBER NINE? YEAH.
NUMBER NINE READS THE BOARD HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH ALL CONTRACTS PRIOR TO APPROVAL.
THAT WAS LETTING ME BE AGREED UPON EARLIER.
Y'ALL ON THE STROLL DOWN TO THAT'S TO REDO A FEW MORE OF THESE AND THEN I'LL BRING US TO A SHORTER SESSION NEXT TIME THAT MAKE ANY SENSE.
I GOT A BUNCH OF THEM OUTSTANDING STUFF ON THESE ONES.
THAT'S MY 2 CENTS ON THAT ONE.
WE ALREADY ADD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT ALREADY.
NUMBER TWO, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, ABLE TO HOLD CONFIDENTIAL ITEMS IN CONFIDENCE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN GAUGE THAT.
THAT THAT'S SUBJECTIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT DO YOU THINK? DID IT, WAS IT A BOARD MEMBER OR NOT? SO, ALL RIGHT.
GIVE ME DO ANY, ANYBODY HAVE A COUNTER FOR THAT? OKAY.
THREE BOARD PRESIDENT AND SUPERINTENDENT CONFER.
SO THAT DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ARE IDENTIFIED.
WELL, YEAH, I CAN AGREE WITH THAT.
I ALREADY HAD A SCRATCH FIRST THREE SCRATCH NOW, NUMBER FOUR.
I WILL SAY BOARD MEMBERS ARE ABLE TO SPEAK THEIR MINDS WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING OSTRACIZED.
I THINK THAT'S A VALID DON'T NEED TO KEEP THAT ONE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
I HAVE DISCUSSED WITH FELLOW MEMBERS, COMMON INTERESTS.
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WE SHARE OUTSIDE THE BOARD ROOM.HUH? THE WAY I READ THAT ONE WAS THE BOR YOU KNOW, THE COMRADERY AMONGST BOARD MEMBERS.
I READ IT TOO AS IMPORTANT, BUT WHAT'S CAMARADERIE AND HALO.
AND THAT, DOES THAT TAKE AWAY YOUR AFFECTIVENESS IF YOU DON'T GO OUT TO DINNER WITH SOMEONE? NO, JUST KIND OF PARAPHRASING HOW YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
MR. CAMPBELL, IF WE COULD, I, I'M NOT SURE I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH NUMBER TWO BEING THROWN OUT.
UM, ONLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A BOARD POLICY THAT TALKS ABOUT NOT DISCLOSING MATTERS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UM, NOT DISCLOSING MATTERS THAT WERE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO I DO THINK THAT IT MIGHT NEED TO BE REWORDED, BUT I THINK THAT THE, UM, THE INTENT BEHIND THAT QUESTION MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO EVALUATE OURSELVES.
SO PATRICIA MAKES A GOOD POINT.
WE DO HAVE A BOARD POLICY THAT DEMANDS.
WE, UM, COMPORT WITH LAW LAW AT YEAH.
ONLY THAT, WHICH FOUR YEAR REQUIRES WE KEEP CONFIDENTIAL.
UM, SO I, MAYBE WE DO NEED TO ADD SOME VERBIAGE THERE.
IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF KEEPING CONFIDENTIAL.
WHAT IS CONFIDENTIAL? WE ARE ONLY FOUND TO KEEP CONFIDENTIAL WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES US TO EAT OR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT WE'RE NOT BOUND TO.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY OUR POLICY IS WRITTEN AND THAT WILL COME UP WHEN WE HAVE OUR READINGS, UH, SWEET TRISHA.
HOW DO YOU, HOW WOULD YOU WANT TO WORD THIS ONE? WELL, I WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN WE DID.
SO, UM, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW, JOANNE, PERHAPS IF WE GO BACK TO PAGE TWO, UM, ROBIN DON'T, WE HAVE ONE THAT SAYS BOARD FOLLOWS SOUTH CAROLINA CONSISTENTLY ON PAGE TWO, LET'S SAY, YEAH, THE BOARD IS SHARES.
UM, THE BOARD FOLLOWS ALL LAWS FOR THEM AND WE PULL IT OVER.
I HAVE WRITTEN ON MY PAPER THAT I THOUGHT WE SAID SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC TO FOYA.
UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SAYING THE SAME THING THOUGH.
UM, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, JOANNE.
AND SO THAT'S WHY, WHEN YOU SAID THAT IT PROMPTED ME TO THINK BACK TO WHAT WE'D ALREADY HAD IN HERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING.
AND SO I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULDN'T BE IMPORTANT BOARD MEMBERS.
I LIKED HOW YOU SAID IT HOLD CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE I'M SORRY.
WE CAN ONLY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR FOUR YEAR OLD FOR LAWS THAT PERTAINING FOR YOU BEFORE YOU, SO WE IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSING ANYTHING ELSE THEN GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN THEY'RE ILLEGALLY, LET ME GET BACK THERE.
WELL, TRISHA LATRICIA FINISHED AT FIRST, SHE WAS SAYING SOMETHING SO RIGHT.
I WAS JUST SUGGESTING THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO ASSESS OURSELVES ON HOW WE KEEP THAT, WHICH IS ALLOWED TO BE CONFIDENTIAL AND EXECUTIVE SESSION CONFIDENTIAL.
SO TRISHA, MY WORDING WAS EXACTLY, AS YOU'RE SAYING, THE BOARD HOLDS CONFIDENTIAL THAT, WHICH THE LAW REQUIRES BE CONFIDENTIAL.
AND I JUST THINK THAT HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT NUANCE THAN WHAT NUMBER TWO IS WHAT WE'RE EVALUATING OURSELVES ON A NUMBER TWO ON PAGE TWO OR NUMBER THREE ON PAGE TWO.
SO I JUST THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT NUANCE.
UM, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE USE YOUR WORDING JOANNE IN PLACE OF NUMBER TWO ON PAGE EIGHT, I HAVE THE BOARD IT'S CONFIDENTIAL BATH, WHICH THE LAW HOLDS AS CONFIDENTIAL.
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YES, THAT IS CORRECT.NOW, NOW, UM, I THINK THAT THIS ONE'S DIFFERENT THAN NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE NUMBER TWO JUST SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE FOYA IN GENERAL, RIGHT.
INFORMATION ACT IN GENERAL AND THAT'S A LARGER UMBRELLA.
AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO STAY BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, UM, HOW WE STRUCTURE OUR AGENDAS, YOU KNOW, THE REASONS THAT WE CITE FOR GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THAT'S RELEGATED THAT IS REGULATED BY THE FOYER.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M PULLING IS A BIGGER, BIGGER MIKE NUMBER TWO NEEDS TO STAY.
NUMBER TWO IS ALSO KIND OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS TYPE RESPONSIBILITY TYPE THING.
AND FOYER IS THE BOARD AND IT REQUIRES, IT REQUIRES RELEASING AS OPPOSED TO HOLDING CONFIDENTIAL.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL CAME UP WITH THE WORDING OR IT ALREADY GOT REWORDED.
THE BOARD HOLDS CONFIDENTIAL, WHICH THE LAW FOLDS AS CONFIDENTIAL.
SO, WELL WE NOW IN THE SIX NUMBER SIX ALREADY DELETED NUMBER FIVE.
I SUGGEST ME Y'ALL WANT TO GO ON THROUGH THE TOP THAT ALL 10 OF THEM.
ONCE THE DECISION IS MADE, THE BOARD WORKS TOGETHER TO SEE THAT IT IS ACCEPTED AND CARRY IT OUT FOR A RANDOM RACHEL SCHOOLS.
BUT I THINK LEAVE IT, LET ME SEE WHAT I GOT.
WELL, MAY I SPEAK NOW? UM, LET'S USE THE OPENING OF SCHOOLS AS AN EXAMPLE.
THE BOARD DIDN'T MAKE DECISIONS ON THAT BECAUSE THOSE WERE CONSIDERED OPERATIONAL DECISIONS.
SO ARE WE, ARE WE ONLY SPEAKING ABOUT MATTERS THAT THE BOARD VOTES ON, OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ANY DECISION MADE, WHETHER IT BE BY ADMINISTRATION OR THE BOARD THAT WE HAVE TO THEN WORK TO SUPPORT THOSE DECISIONS? WE JUST TALKED ABOUT FOUR DECISIONS HERE OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT BOARD AND ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS? WELL, THERE YOU GO.
IT DOESN'T SAY BOARD AND I MEAN, IT JUST SAID ANY DECISION.
UM, ONCE A DECISION IS MADE, I, I, YOU KNOW, MY PHILOSOPHY NIGHT, JOANNE IS THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
UM, I THINK ALTERNATE DIFFERENT COURSES IN TERMS OF THAT DECISION MAKING.
I THINK ONCE A DECISION IS MADE, IT BELONGS TO THE BOARD THAT IS RATHER FRANK TO MAKE IT OR ALICE MAKES OR WHO MAKES IT IT'S THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY.
WELL THE DECISION DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY BELONG TO THE BOARD.
ONLY THE THINGS WE VOTE ON BELONGS TO US THAT THE DECISIONS OUR SUPERINTENDENT AND HIS STAFF MAKE BELONGS TO THEM.
I'M DIFFER WITH YOU ON THAT PARTICULAR POINT.
BUT I I'M WONDERING IF WE NEED SOME DEFINING LANGUAGE ON HERE THAT SAYS BOARD DECISIONS.
UM, ONCE, UH, ONCE THE BOARD MAKES A DECISION ON SOMETHING, UM, MEMBERS, I CAN'T READ THE REST OF IT.
I'M SORRY, BUT WE GOT SOMETHING FOR THAT ALREADY.
I THINK GRAHAM EARLIER WE GOT SOMETHING ABOUT OF THE BOARD IS, IS, IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT WAS, BUT YEAH.
WELL, LET ME JUST, LET ME USE THE EXAMPLE, UM, THE REOPENING OF SCHOOL TO CAKE BEER.
OUR, OUR BOARD VOTED ON WHEN, WHEN WE WENT OVER RITUAL.
UM, WELL, I DON'T THINK WE VOTED ON ANY
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OF THE OPENINGS.UM, OFFICIALLY NOW I'M NOT, I'M NOT CERTAIN, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
UH, BUT, BUT IF YOU HAVE A BOARD MEMBER WHO REPRESENTS A CONSTITUENCY AND THEY'RE HEARING SIGNIFICANT FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, ONE COULD ARGUE EFFECTIVELY THAT THAT IS THAT CONSTITUENT.
THAT IS THAT BOARD MEMBERS ARE THAT REPRESENTATIVE JOB TO, TO REPRESENT THEM.
I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IN STANDING IN THE WAY OF THAT.
I KNOW IT'S A MUCH MORE PEACEABLE CONCLUSION FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT SOMETIMES DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
UH, SO I, I STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS ONE.
I THINK IT TRIES TO ENFORCE SOMETHING THAT REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T SUPPORT NECESSARILY.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU'RE ON THE BOARD.
I MEAN, IN FRONT OF THE BOARD PERSPECTIVE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FROM A DISTANCE USA REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT RELATIONSHIP.
BUT THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU SUPPORT THE LAW OR NOT, ARE YOU GOING TO FOLLOW THE LAW? NOT MR. CAMPBELL? CAUSE I DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, YOU SAID POLICY BOARD MAKING THAT DECISION.
I'M TALKING BOARD LAWS, NOT THE LAW OF THE LAND, BUT I'M SAYING ONCE THE BOARD MAKES A POLICY THAT WERE AGREED UPON THROUGH VOTE, I MAY NOT AGREE WITH THAT.
AND I'VE ARGUED IT FOR 20 MINUTES AND YOU STILL VOTED ME.
AM I GOING TO SUPPORT THAT THE SCHOOLS SHOULD BE CLOSED A CERTAIN TIME BECAUSE WE VOTED THAT WAY? UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, UH, I STILL NOT SUPPORTING IT.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE GIST OF THE BOARD AND BY MINE, THAT'S WHERE THE BULLETS SHOULD DO.
BUT THEN IT GOES BACK TO WOMEN'S OR SHAQ SAY, ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS DON'T WANT THEIR SCHOOL CLOTHES.
THEN YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD GO WITH THE WILL OF THE BOARD.
BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO THE BOARD, THEN YOU'RE NOT SERVING YOUR COMMUNITY.
NO YOU SERVE, YOU MADE YOUR ARGUMENT DOING THE MEETING.
YOU'RE ALL GOOD FOR YOUR BEHALF.
BUT NOW THE BOARDROOMS, THAT'S THE ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT.
THE OVERALL LAW THAT THE BOARD MAKE HAS GOT TO BE THE RULING FACTOR YOU'RE JUST PLAYING FOR.
DID YOU KNOW EVERYBODY GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 10, 11 DIFFERENT OPINIONS OR 11 DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS AND 11 DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY IT WAS A BOARD.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO THAT.
ME PERSONALLY, I THINK WE SHOULD SCRATCH IT.
I THINK WE SHOULD GET RID OF IT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST, AS I SAID, MINGUS AND
SOME OF US MAY NOT DO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE SHOULD NEVER TOOK THAT VOTE.
IF YOU THINK BACK, I DIDN'T WANT TO CALL IT OUT TO WHAT IT WAS.
SO WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF US TAKING A VOTE? IF WE WERE ALL
THEN THERE WAS NO NEED FOR US TO TAKE A VOTE, TO SEE WHO WOULD ALL SUPPORT THE SUPERINTENDENT PRIOR TO COMING HERE.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THE VOTE IS TO MAKE THE DECISION THAT WE WILL ALL SUPPORT WILL.
IF YOU WANTED ON IT, YOU GOT OVERWATERED AND, BUT YOU GOT TO GO ALONG WITH THAT HAPPENING.
I WOULD SAY LET'S, LET'S LEAVE IT IN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A VERY EVOCATIVE, UH, ITEM.
AND I THINK THAT IT WILL POSE SOME VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION FOR THE FUTURE BOARD.
AND I WOULD JUST, FOR THAT REASON ALONE, SAY, LET'S LEAVE IT AS HE IS.
AND UM, LET'S, LET'S LEAVE IT IN THERE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE BOARD AS A BODY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYBODY STANDS ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE.
NOT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE THINKING, BUT BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL PROMOTE A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
WELL, IF YOU DON'T LEAVE IT IN, THEN IN A WAY YOU AGREE WITH THE THINKING WE WANT TO EVALUATE IT OTHERWISE.
WELL, LISTEN, I, IT IS, IT'S GOING TO PROMPT
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A DISCUSSION OR JUST GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER IT'S MEMBERS ARE, UM, ADHERING TO THIS OR NOT.IT'S GOING TO VALUE OR NOT VALUE THIS, THIS ITEM.
NUMBER SEVEN, I LOST CONTACT AT OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
THERE IS AT LEAST AS MUCH DIALOGUE AMONG MEMBERS AS THERE IS AMONG MEMBERS AND STAFF.
CERTAINLY WE LEAVE THAT ONE IN, RIGHT? WELL, UM, IT'S THE BOARD'S MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE EQUAL PARTS DIALOGUE BY BOARD MEMBERS VERSUS EQUAL PARTS, DIALOGUE BY STAFF.
I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A BERRY IT'LL VARY ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, I SHOULD SCRATCH IT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT DR.
RODRIGUEZ HAS, HAS INSTRUCTED THE BOARD TO DEAL WITH HIM DIRECTLY.
SO IF WE'RE THERE, IF WE'RE FOLLOWING THE DIRECTION OF THE SUPERINTENDENT AND DEALING WITH IT AND DEALING WITH HIM, WITH HIM DIRECTLY, THEN WE, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT, THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF, OF STAFF CONVERSATION WITH STAFF.
WELL, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? I SAID, HI.
RODRIGUEZ HAVE INSTRUCTED THE BOARD TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM DIRECTLY.
SO WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM DIRECTLY THEN THAT WOULD NOT.
THAT WOULD NOT, THAT WOULD NOT, UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD NOT, IT WOULD NOT INVOLVE IT.
IT WOULD HAVE FORCED US TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH STAFF THAT MUCH BECAUSE WE WILL BE HAVING CONVERSATION WITH DR.
RODRIGUEZ WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT, BUT HE HAS STAFF, WILL HE HAVE STAFF TO REPORTS AND STUFF? I MAKE QUESTIONS.
WE'VE ASKED TANYA OVER THE YEARS.
THAT'S NOT HOW I READ IT, HOW I READ IT.
THE READING OF IT IS, I MEAN, ARE WE DISCUSSING THESE TOPICS WITH OURSELVES AS BOARD MEMBERS OR ARE WE DISCUSSING IT WITH DR.
RODRIGUEZ AND HIS STAFF AND OUR MEETING IS, IS WITH MORE OF THAT THAN IT IS OF US DISCUSSING THINGS OR MOUNTS.
I WOULD SALES BEFORE WE REACHED THE CONCLUSION.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD THROW THAT OUT OR YOU CAN LEAVE IT IN, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE GIST OF THE QUESTION.
ARE WE DISCUSSING IT AMONGST OURSELVES AFTER GETTING THE INFORMATION OR ARE WE DISCUSSING THE INFORMATION MORE THAN WE DISCUSSING IT AMONGST? I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE WAY I INTERPRET THAT IT'S NOT INTERPRETED, BUT OKAY.
I DIDN'T HAVE MY HAND UP ON PROCESSING.
UM, IF WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN THE QUESTION TO THIS EXTENT, THEN IT'S OBVIOUSLY A POORLY WRITTEN, SO I, MALE, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S AN INTERESTING THING TO EVALUATE OURSELVES ON.
UH, HOWEVER, I THINK IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE REWORDED.
WELL, I LIKED WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY.
CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? THAT WHERE YOU BASICALLY SAYING THAT WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PERTINENT INFORMATION PRIOR TO DISCUSSING IT AS A BOARD, WE TAKE PERTINENT INFORMATION FROM, FROM THE SUPERHERO.
IT'S LIKE, JOANNE, JUST SAY IT IT'S OUR MEETING.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DISCUSSION SHOULD BE AMONGST OUR SALES ON, IN TERMS OF WHAT'S DONE.
IT'S NOT JUST A MEETING OF A BUNCH OF REPORTS AND, UH, WE, WE LEAVE DISCUSSION AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU READ IT, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A PERTINENT QUESTION BECAUSE IT DOES EXPLAIN WHO IS GOVERNING AND WHO IS NOT.
AND, AND, UH, THE GOVERNING MECHANISM THAT WE'RE USING, THAT'S THE WAY I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE WRITTEN AT OUR BOARD MEETINGS, BOARD MEMBERS TAKEN ACCOUNT PER PERTINENT INFORMATION FROM STAFF PRIOR, OR WHAT WAS THE REST OF IT DISCUSSION
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AT OUR BOARD MEETINGS, BOARD MEMBERS TAKE IN ACCOUNT, HER PERTINENT INFORMATION FROM STAFF PRIOR TO DISCUSSION.YEAH, I THOUGHT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY MORE OR LESS THAT DOES THE BOARD, UH, AT BOARD MEETINGS, THE BOARD MEMBERS DISCUSS THE INFORMATION AMONGST THEMSELVES AND INVOLVE STAFF WOULD NEED TO BE, OR STAFF TO ENGAGE AS, AS NEEDED OF HUH? MR. ROGERS, YOU MIGHT SAY SOMETHING.
I THINK WILLIAM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, SEE, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW REALLY WHAT THE QUESTION'S ASKING.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF IT.
SO WHAT IS IT THAT, WHAT DO WE WANT TO ASSESS OURSELVES ON INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE THIS FIT INTO? YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ASSESS OURSELVES ON RIGHT HERE? RIGHT.
WELL, I WAS JUST SAYING, I THOUGHT MR. CAMPBELL SAID, I THOUGHT MR. CAMPBELL SAID THAT AT BOARD MEETINGS AND BOARD MEETING BOARD MEETINGS, BOARD MEMBERS ENGAGED IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS, ABOUT DECISION AND INVOLVE STAFF AND INVOLVE STAFF AS NEEDED.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? MR. CAMPBELL? A LOT.
I SAID THE SAME THING WE JUST SAID, THAT'S THE SAME THING YOU'RE SAYING TOO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THOSE WORDS WERE JUST SAYING, WE GOING TO DRAW WHAT WE NEED FROM STAFF WITH THE DISCUSSION AND DECISION MAKING IS ALWAYS IN THAT CONTROLS THE MEETING TYPE, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A BOARD MEETING AND WE OPERATE AS IF IT'S A BOARD MEETING, RIGHT? YEAH.
AS OPPOSED TO IT'S A STAFF REPORTING MEETING.
SO WHAT I WAS JUST TRYING TO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO BRING IT DOWN TO THE SIMPLEST, TO THE SIMPLEST DEGREE AND SAID BASICALLY WHAT THE QUESTION SHOULD IT MEAN WHAT THE STATEMENT SHOULD SAY? DOES THE BOARD AS A WHOLE DISCUSS PACIFIC'S TOPICS? DOES THE BOARD, THE BOARD IS THE BOARD, THE BOARD ITSELF DISCUSSES PACIFIC TOPICS.
AND WHEN NEEDED INVOLVE STAFF, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION INVOLVES IN MOST STAFF AND SUPERINTENDENT, SOMETHING, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
MAYBE I CAN QUARTERBACK IT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST IT THIS TIME.
I WOULD REMAIN THIS AND REVISIT IT AT A LATER WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
CAUSE WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A COUPLE HOURS.
IT'S NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT OF AN ISSUE.
SO ARE WE KEEPING IT OR DELETING IT? I WOULD TAKE IT OUT FOR NOW.
YOU'RE NOT GOING BACK TO THESE.
ORDER'S ADOPTED SOME EXPLICIT GOALS FOR ITSELF DISTINCT FROM DISTRICT GOALS.
W WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THAT ONE? I'M ASKING THE THREE OF YOU ABOUT IT.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT NEEDS TO REMAIN THERE.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN ANIMUS NUMBER NINE.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE USED TO DO, BUT WE HAVE NOT DONE FOR YEARS.
PROBABLY WE STILL, WE NEED TO DO IT.
WE NEED TO HAVE OUR, OUR GOALS TO HIM THAT THAT'LL MAKE THE EVALUATION EASIER.
NUMBER NINE IS BOARD PROVIDES BIOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION THAT HELPS MEMBERS GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER BETTER? NO, ACTUALLY IT JUST TALKED TO MY BAD TOO EARLIER.
WELL, I WOULD SAY THERE'S SOME VALUE IN IT FOR THE PUBLIC KNOWING OUR BACKGROUNDS, UM, NOT NECESSARILY EACH OTHER.
UH, IS THAT SOMETHING ROBIN? DID WE PUT IT ON OUR DISTRICT WEBSITE? LIKE NEXT TO EACH
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BOARD MEMBER? YES, WE USE, I USED TO HAVE THAT ON THE DISTRICT WEBSITE, UH, BY A BIO OF EACH BOARD MEMBER.I'M AN, I KNOW COUNTY COUNCIL DOES IT.
UM, I'M CURIOUS WHY YOU THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW IT.
THE BOARD MEMBERS DON'T NEED TO KNOW IT.
NOW WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE LARGER PRIORITY IS FOR THE PEOPLE WE ANSWERED TO, TO KNOW IT.
BOARD MEMBERS KNOW IT'S LOVELY, BUT THEY WILL, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED YOU IN NEED TO KNOW.
IT'S JUST THE LARGER PRIORITY.
PRIOR TO IT FROM A, FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE OPTIC, BUT I'M SAYING FOR THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION AND EVALUATING, I WAS SAYING, AH, WELL, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.
UH, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY IF WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SAYING COMRADERIES NECESSARY.
SO I MEAN, THIS KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH THAT OTHER QUESTION, WHICH WE GOT RID OF.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THOUGH, TRICIA.
BUT THIS IS BASICALLY A SKILL SET EXPERTISE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU CAN DRAW FROM, OR, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE AND HELPING YOU TO MAKE DECISIONS.
YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU AND I JUST SHARED WITH JOANNE AND KATHY, OUR EDUCATORS, THAT MEANS SOMETHING WHEN PEOPLE LOAD US, ESPECIALLY THE BOARD AND FACT THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, CORPORATE BOARD MEMBERS OR IN PARTICULAR FORMAL FASHION PARTS OF OUR SYSTEM.
WHEN WE COME TO MAKING A DECISION CONTRACT, REALIST BUILDERS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THOSE ELEMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS, OH, YOU WERE A CONTRACTOR.
THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO BE ON THAT CLOUD COMMITTEE.
OR YOU'D LIKE TO BE ON THAT CLOUD COMMITTEE BECAUSE OF THAT.
I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, MR. CAMPBELL, THEN I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE THAT SECOND PART THAT SAYS, GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER BETTER, BUT MIGHT SAY SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES, GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SKILLSET BETTER.
BECAUSE I THINK GETTING TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER BETTER, I MEAN THAT, THAT, THAT TO ME HAS A CONNOTATION OF, YOU KNOW, YOU GET ALONG, YOU GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER BETTER, YOU KNOW, BUT YOUR POINT IS VERY GOOD.
I JUST NEED THE, THE INFORMATION, THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
I THINK YOUR POINT'S VERY WELL TAKEN.
UM, AS A BOARD, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT EACH PERSON'S SKILL SET IS.
PARTICULARLY THE CHAIR WHO IS THROUGH POLICY, GIVEN A GREAT DEAL OF WE AND PUTTING OUR COMMITTEES TOGETHER.
I MEAN, IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW WHO'S GOT A FINANCE BACKGROUND, SHE'S GOT AN ELEMENTARY ED BACKGROUND AND YOU PLACE PEOPLE ACCORDINGLY.
SO TO THAT EXTENT, I THINK IT IS HELPFUL.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU AND TRICIA THERE FOR THE BOARD.
SO WE HAVE TAKE UP THE, TAKE OFF THE TOUCHY FEELY PART.
NO, CAUSE WHAT DID YOU REWORD IT TO? I MEAN, I'M NOT, I HAVE NOT GIVEN THAT, UM, THE BOARD PROVIDES GRAPHICAL INFORMATION ABOUT ITS MEMBERS.
AND LAST ONE, THERE IS BOARD HANDLES CONFLICT OPENLY AND CONSTRUCTIVELY.
I SAY WE KEEP IT AS THAT'S TRASH.
NOW, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ANTICIPATING, UH, A GOOD NUMBER ON IT, BUT, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AS A SPRINGBOARD TO CONVERSATION.
WHAT CONFLICT IS IT CONFLICT AMONG MEMBERS? IS IT CONFLICT THAT'S HAPPENING ELSEWHERE IN THE DISTRICT? WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE
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FOUNDATION FOR THE WORD CONFLICT QUESTION? I ASSUME WE HAD TALKED TO ABOUT CONFLICT AMONG BOARD MEMBERS THEN ADD BOARD MEMBERS AND ADMIN AND DISTRICT LEADERSHIP.BUT I DON'T KNOW, THEY DO HAVE TO DO THAT OPENLY WITH THE PUBLIC.
I, I THINK IT CAN BE, UH, OPEN TO INTERPRETATION AND UH, WHEN PEOPLE SCORE IT, THEY'LL SCORE IT WITHIN THEIR OWN CONSTRUCT AND IT WILL LEAD TO, I MEAN, THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS TO LEAD TO GREATER, UH, EFFICIENCY AND UNDERSTANDING AND, AND ALSO TRANSPARENCY.
THAT'S, THAT'S A CATCH ALL WORD AS A, BEING A BOARD MEMBER AS WELL.
THE QUESTION IS TOO IS WHAT IS CONFLICT? WHAT CONFLICT MAY BE TO YOU MAY NOT BE CONFLICT TO ME.
SO CAN YOU DEFINE THAT A LITTLE BIT TOO? WELL, I RAN CONFLICT OF THE BIG CONFLICT TO SOMEBODY BECOMES A BULLETS PURVIEW.
THEN THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION WILL, WILL HAPPEN.
WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE CONFLICT, YOU KNOW? AND ALL CONFLICTS ARE CONFLICT.
THAT'S WHY IS SOMETIME RESOLVED CONSTRUCTIVELY, BUT ANYTHING THAT HAS THAT PERCEPTION, THE BOARD HAS TO HANDLE IT.
THAT'S I, I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE TO EVALUATE OURSELVES ON.
I'VE EXHAUSTED MYSELF FOR ONE DAY.
WE'VE GOT ONE OTHER SECTION TO COVER AND WE'LL COVER THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THEN WE'LL DIVE INTO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
WHEN DO YOU WANT TO MEET AGAIN? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CALENDAR SAYS.
I SAID ONE OF THE THINGS YOU GOT MORE THAN ONE OUT OF THE SECTION.
NOW WE HAVE 30 MORE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? THREE MORE.
WE GOT THREE OTHER SECTIONS, THREE MORE THAN WE DID.
AND THE NEXT MEETING, THE THIRD MEETING I HAD THE RIGHT TIME.
WE'LL WE'LL DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT AT HOUSE.
SO YOU CAN MOVE TO THE WEEK OF THE 16TH.
IS THAT THE LAST WEEK BEFORE THANKSGIVING? YES, SIR.
WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO MEET THE THANKSGIVING WEEK.
THERE, THERE AREN'T ANY MEETINGS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY THE 16TH.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYONE? BECAUSE I LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE THIS DONE BEFORE THE SUNBLOCK COMES AROUND AND THEY'LL MEET THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER.
WE WANT TO FINISH IT UP PERHAPS BY LATE, WE HAVE TO MEET IN THE SUMMER OR JUST ONE.
YOU HAVE ONE BOARD MEETING SCHEDULED IN DECEMBER, BUT THE DATE, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER IT IS DECEMBER 8TH.
WELL, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING AFTER MONDAY BEFORE THAT IS CORRECT.
YOU WOULD HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE ONE ON THE 16TH AND YOU CAN HAVE ONE THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER.
THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD BE THE WEEK BEFORE THE EIGHTH.
THE 16TH, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE AT 16TH.
HOW ABOUT THE 17TH? 17TH COULD WORK FOR ME IF NOBODY ELSE OPERATIONS IS TENTATIVELY, TENTATIVELY SCHEDULING A MEETING ON THE 17TH AT THREE.
SO IF YOU DO IT EARLY, WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT? C OH, I'LL I'LL EMAIL JOANNA AND HER 17TH AT 11 O'CLOCK.
AND WE WILL START WITH PAGE, START WITH DOWNLOAD.
WHATEVER THAT ONE IS, RIGHT? THAT IS PAGE NINE.
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MR.DID YOU GET MY EMAIL ABOUT MY EMAIL ADDRESS? YEAH, I RESPONDED TO, I NEVER SAW ANYTHING BACK.
I KNEW THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT, I JUST SAW YOUR NAME ON A, ON A, ON A, ON A DROPDOWN AND PLUS YOUR NAME, BUT THE NEXT TIME, A LITTLE BIT MORE DEFINITIVE FOR THE VOE.
I'M SORRY ABOUT NO, NO BIG DEAL.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.
THAT, WELL, IT SHOULD HAVE MADE YOU GOT THE ORDER.