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IT IS 6:00 PM ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 26TH.
THIS IS THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING OF THE BUFORD COUNTY COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AS I, UH, CALL YOUR NAME.
WOULD YOU PLEASE ANNOUNCE THAT YOU ARE PRESENT? COUNCILMAN COVERT, COUNCILMAN DAWSON HERE.
COUNCILMAN
COUNCILMAN LAWSON, COUNCILMAN MCALDIN HERE.
COUNCILMAN RODMAN HERE, COUNCILMAN SOUTHERN VILLE, PRESIDENT AND CHAIR PASSMAN.
WE ALL ARE PRESENT ALL 11 MEMBERS.
THEREFORE WE ARE ABLE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS.
PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
AND I WILL NOW TURN TO COUNCILMAN, UH, LARRY MCKELLAN WHO WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND AN INVOCATION.
WOULD YOU ALL RISE PLEASE? AND ANYONE OTHER THAN MR. MCMULLEN, WOULD YOU ALL PUT YOURSELF ON MUTE? DID THAT COME THROUGH? IS I OFF MUTE, SORRY.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL GO THROUGH THAT TIME.
ARE YOU GOING TO DO, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR IT.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY AND ABUNDANT BLESSINGS.
WE THANK YOU FOR LIFE ITSELF AND FOR THE MEASURE OF HEALTH, GIVEN US TO FULFILL OUR DUTIES.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO BE INVOLVED IN USEFUL WORK.
AND FOR THE HONOR OF BEARING SERIOUS RESPONSIBILITY, I ASKED THAT WE AS A BODY PROMOTE PEACE ORDER AND JUSTICE, AND THAT YOU GRACIOUSLY GRANT THIS BODY OF THE WISDOM OF GOVERN MID THE CONFLICTING INTERESTS IN ISSUES OF OUR TIMES WHO HAVE A SENSE OF THE TRUE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS WHO HAVE A KEEN THIRST FOR JUSTICE TO UNDERSTAND, AND TO CLEARLY SEE WHAT IS GOOD FITTING AND APPROPRIATE.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY, EVEN WHEN THERE IS HONEST DISAGREEMENT AND TO HAVE PERSONAL PEACE IN OUR LIVES, ENJOY IN OUR TASK.
FINALLY, PLEASE HELP US TO ENSURE OUR DELIBERATIONS HERE TONIGHT.
BENEFIT THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN R AND D COMMUNITY AND YOUR NAME WE PRAY.
UM, ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
AND I WOULD ASK FOR A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO AMEND THE AGENDA AS FOLLOWS IN ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THE REMOVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2020 MINUTES.
UH, THOSE WERE NOT ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED WHEN THE AGENDA WAS SENT OUT.
UH, WE JUST RECEIVED THOSE EARLIER TODAY AND THEREFORE WE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES.
THEY WILL BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA, UH, IN DISCUSSION AT THE CAUCUS UNDER ACTION ITEM, NUMBER NINE, TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER NINE AND MOVE THAT TO, UM, A MATTER TO BE POSTPONED UNTIL NOVEMBER 9TH OF 2020.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT, UH, EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON, WE RECEIVED AN AMENDED, UM, NOISE ORDINANCE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THIS WILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY COUNTY COUNCIL.
IT WILL BE, UH, REVIEWED BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT ALL ITEMS WITHIN THAT AGENDA
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ITEM ARE CORRECT BEFORE IT IS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND ANY ACTION ITEM, NUMBER 10 WILL BE REMOVED AS DISCUSSED IN THE, THE CAUCUS MEETING.WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 16TH.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN EXTREMELY VOLATILE ISSUE.
WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SET UP THE FOLLOWING.
WE'RE GOING TO INSTITUTE A WORKSHOP MEETING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EXPERTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE.
UM, GIVE INFORMATION TO COUNTY COUNCIL AS IT MOVES FORWARD IN PREPARING A, UM, AN ORDINANCE, A MASK ORDINANCE.
UH, SECOND OF ALL, THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT THE LEGAL LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE, REFERRING TO CHURCHES AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE A PUBLIC BUILDING THAT CAN BE REGULATED BY A MASS ORDINANCE.
AND THIRD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE TIME WHEN YOU HAVE A BUSINESS MEETING, SUCH AS A MEETING OF THIS.
AND WE HAVE LIMITED TIME TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
THAT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE UNFAIR TO EVERYBODY.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS, WE WILL AMEND THAT ITEM.
WE'RE GOING TO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, HAVE A DIFFERENT WORDING FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
WHEN WE DISCUSS THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, THE VARIOUS CHAIRS OF THE COMMITTEES WILL ADDRESS WHY THOSE ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MR. HERVIS, SEAN WILL TALK ABOUT, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, INDICATING THAT IT HAS TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THERE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT HAS TO BE DONE WITH THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.
UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE WILL BE REWORDED AS THE SECOND READING.
IT SAYS FIRST READING, BUT IT SHOULD BE REWORDED AS THE SECOND RATING.
AND THEN FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WILL BE REMOVED BECAUSE THAT ITEM DID NOT COME OUT OF A COMMITTEE.
UM, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENT MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK APPROPRIATE TO THE LANGUAGE REGARDING THAT THE, AND LOU, I FORGOT WHAT THE NUMBER IS ALREADY, BUT YES, THE FIELD LIEU IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT IT WILL STATE THAT IT IS FIRST READING AND ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTIONS REGARDING THE FEE IN LIEU OF PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE PROJECT BURGER PROJECT GARDEN AND PROJECT GLASS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA SUBJECT TO THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE JEFF SUGGESTED.
I BELIEVE HE WANTS TO MAKE A FURTHER TO JUST MOVE ITEM NUMBER 11 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT TWO 78 INDEPENDENT REVIEW OR A DISCRETION AND ACTION.
THAT WILL BE MOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IT WILL NOW BECOME ITEM NUMBER 19 IN THE ACTION ITEMS. MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, YES.
MR. HARVEY,
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS WE SHOULD PROBABLY CLARIFY WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE STREAMING RIGHT NOW.
I'M GETTING TEXT MESSAGES THAT WE ARE NOT LIVE ON FACEBOOK.
UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME VERY HATEFUL OF NOXIOUS EMAILS, UH, CALLING NAMES OUT TO SPECIFIC COUNCIL PEOPLE, WHICH IS HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
IT IS NOT IN OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THAT FACEBOOK IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WHEREBY THE PUBLIC GETS TO PUT INPUT IN ON WHAT WE ARE DOING.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT STREAMING RIGHT NOW IN FACEBOOK TO CLARIFY, WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO STREAM MEETINGS ON FACEBOOK.
WE DID STREAM THE TWO EARLIER.
BUT THERE, THERE WEREN'T ANY VIRAL COMMENTS.
NOW THERE ARE VIRAL COMMENTS, SPECIFICALLY, UM, NOTING SPECIFIC COUNCIL PEOPLE.
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WE ARE GOING TO GO TO A DIFFERENT FORMAT, MR. MCKELLEN, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, IN MOVING SOME OF THESE ITEMS OFF THE AGENDA AND ADJUSTING THE AGENDA THAT WILL NOT AFFECT THE PUBLIC'S ABILITY TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF OUR MEETING ON THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE MOVED TO A QQ DATE.IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
I JUST WANT IT TO BE SURE THAT EVERYONE WHO WAS LISTENING AND SEEKING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, RIGHT? YUP.
MR. FLUE WELLING MADE THE MOTION DULY MADE, UH, MR. RODMAN MADE THE SECOND FOR THOSE CHANGES.
DO I NEED TO REPEAT ANY OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE? IF NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE AGENDA BEING AMENDED, SEEING NONE THEN WITHOUT OBJECTIONS, THE AGENDA IS AMENDED.
I WILL NOW SEEK THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS AMENDED AND I HAVE SUCH A MOTION.
MR. MCKELLAN MAKES THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
MR. DAWSON MAKES THE SECOND DULY MOTIONED AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.
ARE THERE ANY ITEMS OF DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NO OBJECTIONS? THE AGENDA IS NOW APPROVED AS AMENDED.
WHO WAS THAT? LET ME IN THE MEETING PLEASE.
MY WHOLE COMPUTER FINALLY CAME UP.
NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2020.
MY, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 14.
MR. GLOVER MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
MS. HOWARD MAKES THE SECOND, UM, ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION? THE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NO OBJECTIONS? THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS STATED.
AND BEFORE WE HAVE CITIZEN COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE SOMETHING FIRST.
I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT WE WELCOME CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR PORTIONS OF THIS MEETING OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES STATE THAT WE ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT DURING OUR MEETINGS, THEREFORE IN DOING SO COUNCIL AS ESTABLISH THE RULES AS TO HOW WE RECEIVE INPUT FROM CITIZENS, THEY STATE ANY PERSON DESIRING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT MAY DO SO BY SUBMITTING A REQUEST TO BE HEARD TO THE CLERK OF COUNCIL PRIOR TO, OR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE COUNCIL MEETING, THOSE ARE OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS, CIVIC, CITIZEN COMMENT PORTIONS OF OUR MEETING ARE ESTABLISHED TO ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AND SHALL LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND OBSERVE THE FOLLOWING PROTOCOLS.
THEY ARE TO ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN AND TO SPEAK AVOIDING DISRESPECT TO COUNCIL OR ANYBODY ON COUNCIL.
THEY ARE TO CONFINE THEMSELVES TO QUESTIONS UNDER JURISDICTION OF THE COUNCIL.
THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION THAT WE CANNOT HANDLE.
IF YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND TOWN COUNCIL, THEY'RE NOT UNDER OUR JURISDICTION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE SHOULD REMIND YOU THAT YOU SHOULD BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT AND OTHERS WHO MAY BE WATCHING ON TELEVISION.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL INTO THIS MEETING TO MAKE A COMMENT YOU MAY DO.
SO AS FOLLOWS, THERE IS A PHONE NUMBER AND SARAH WILL THAT BE PLACED UP ON THE SCREEN AS I READ IT, CUTTING IT UP NOW.
SO AS A SHARE SCREEN, BUT THE PUBLIC THIS, YES.
THE PHONE NUMBER IS +1 408-418-9388.
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AND THEN YOU WILL USE AN ACCESS CODE.IS THAT ALSO BEING SHOWN? OKAY.
THE ACCESS CODE IS (173) 814-0552.
NOW WE HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS COMMENTS IN WRITING.
WE WILL NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME THIS EVENING TO READ EVERY ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS.
WHEN WE HAVE THOSE COMMENTS, THEY WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE, THEY CONTAIN YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR COMMENT, AND CONTACT INFORMATION.
AND IF ANY COUNCIL PERSON, WHICH IS WISHES TO CONTACT YOU, THEY WILL BE FREE TO DO SO.
SO IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
HOW, HOW DO WE BRING THEM IN? I'LL ADMIT THEM.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE.
AND SINCE THIS IS NEW, I'M GOING TO TRY AND ALLOW SOME EXTRA TIME SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT.
THIS IS ALMOST LIKE WHAT WE USED TO DO WHEN WE WERE IN PERSON.
PEOPLE WOULD SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME OR AT THE COUNCIL MEETING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL.
WILL THE FIRST PERSON PLEASE ANNOUNCE THEIR NAME, ADDRESS? ARE THEY ON? I DON'T HEAR THEM.
BUT YOU HAVE THREE, THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
BRAD FROWN 14 ZERO THREE MAIN STREET VILLAGE HILTON, HEAD TWO NINE NINE TWO SIX.
THAT I'VE JUST ADVISED TO COME TO THE CALL.
YOUR, YOUR COMMENT TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
TOBIN TO ATTEND THIS CALL, I GUESS THERE WAS SOME, HOW ABOUT MY PATIENT LOAD? AND I GOT ON THE CALL, UM, DOCTOR.
AND WHO ELSE? WHO ELSE WAS ON THE CALL? UH, WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE TAKING THEM ONE AT A TIME.
CAN YOU GIVE YOU, CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR SPECIALTY, SIR? CHIROPRACTOR.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, SIR.
THE NEXT PERSON, CAN YOU MOVE HIM TO THE LOBBY? THE NEXT PRESENTER THERE ON CHAIRMAN? JUST IT'S A SIX ONE SEVEN.
AND THE LAST NUMBER IS FIVE, THREE.
PLEASE ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
UM, I HEARD NOTHING BUT ELEVATOR MUSIC PRIOR TO THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OF, BUT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE THAT.
UM, I'M A MOLECULAR BIOLOGIST FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA.
UM, I'VE WORKED WITH VIRUSES AND IMMUNOLOGY AND, UM, BASICALLY PROTECTION AGAINST A VIRAL DISEASE FOR MY ENTIRE CAREER.
AND I LIVE HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
SO I KNOW THE UTILITY OF MASKS AND THE TYPE OF PROTECTION FOR P THREE AND P FOUR.
UM, VIRAL PARTICLES ARE 0.1 MICRONS IN SIZE MASKS, PORES AND HOLES ARE ON THE ORDER OF OVER A HUNDRED MICRONS,
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WHICH IS ABOUT A THOUSAND FOLD DIFFERENCE.IT'S LIKE TRYING TO STOP MOSQUITOES WITH A PICKET FENCE.
AND THERE BASICALLY IS NO UTILITY FOR VIRAL PROTECTION WITH SURGICAL MASKS OR ANY TYPE OF CLOTH OR A FIBER-BASED MASK.
BASICALLY THESE MASKS ARE BASICALLY BYLAW TO BE LABELED BY THE FDA.
THE FDA REQUIRES THAT ANY BOX OF THESE MASKS BE LABELED ARE NOT INDICATED FOR USE AS PROTECTION AGAINST VIRUSES.
SO THERE'S NO VALUE AND NO UTILITY OF WEARING A MASK TO PROTECT ONESELF FROM VIRUSES.
YOU WEAR MASKS IN LABORATORIES AND IN THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PROTECT OTHER PATIENTS FROM BACTERIAL INFECTION AND OTHER TYPES OF DISEASES THAT CAN BE SPREAD BY PEOPLE, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH VIRUSES, EVEN, EVEN IN THE SURGICAL SUITE, DOCTORS ARE, WOULD GOWN DIFFERENTLY IF THEY HAD A VIRAL ISSUE THAN THEY WOULD WITH ANY OTHER TYPE OF SURGERY SURGERY, WHERE THEY WERE NORMAL MASKS.
SO BASICALLY, UH, IT IS COMPLETELY PREPOSTEROUS AND A FICTITIOUS TO THINK THAT THESE MASKS, THAT PEOPLE ARE WALKING AROUND AROUND ME ON THE STREET WITH HAVE ANY VALUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, EVEN FOR SNEEZING AND COUGHING AND SPITTING AND DROPLET FORMATION DROPLETS WITH COLLECT ON THESE FIBER MASKS ON THESE FLOSS MASKS, YOU BUILD UP SEVERAL TYPES OF DROPLETS THEY'D FINALLY DRY, AND YOU WOULD PASS OUT A CONCENTRATED, MORE CONCENTRATED CLOUD OF VIRAL PARTICLES THAN YOU ORIGINALLY HAD WITH YOUR INITIALS IS SO ALSO I NOTICED PEOPLE IN KROGER'S AS YOU WALK BY, THEY PULL DOWN THEIR MASK, COUGH OR SNEEZE AND PUT THEIR MASK BACK ON AGAIN.
SO EXPECTING PEOPLE TO BE FOLLOWING THE PROTOCOL THAT YOU IMAGINED THEY'RE FOLLOWING IS ONCE AGAIN, UM, FALLACIOUS.
SO I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO VALUE SCIENTIFICALLY IN WEARING MASKS TO PROTECT YOURSELF FROM VIRUSES.
THERE'S NO VALUE IN THIS PANDEMIC.
HISTORICALLY, I'VE ALSO RESEARCHED IN MY COLLEGE DAYS, UH, THE SPANISH FLU, THE SPANISH FLU, THEY IDENTIFIED, UH, TOWNS THAT WERE CAPABLE OF PROVIDING MASS AND CERTAIN, UH, UH, PROTECTIONS TO THEIR POPULATION AND TOWNS, WHICH WERE LESS WELL ENDOWED AND COULD NOT AFFORD MASKS FOR THEIR POPULATION.
EACH TOWN HAD THE SAME LEVEL OF INFECTION RATE, THE SAME LEVEL OF DEATHS, RIGHT? WHETHER THEY WERE HEAVILY MAX SMACKS UP OR NOT USING MASKS AT ALL.
SO THERE BASICALLY HAS BEEN STATISTICALLY NO VALUE AND USING MASS ALSO, UM, IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, ANTHONY FOWCHEE SAID, AND I COULD QUOTE, HE SAID, BASICALLY THERE WAS NO REASON FOR AMERICANS TO BE WALKING AROUND ON THE STREET, WEARING MASKS, MASKS UP NEW VALUE AND PROTECTING PEOPLE AGAINST VIRUSES, EXCEPT THAT IT MIGHT MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD, BUT FUNCTIONALLY, THEY DO NOT HELP.
IN FACT, THERE MAY BE MORE PROBLEMS, UH, TO THE MASK WEARER, UH, AND OTHER, OTHER, UH, ISSUES THEN THAN WE'RE AWARE OF AT THIS TIME TO THE USER OF MASKS.
SO THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO PRESENT.
I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE PRESENTED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN INTO YOUR PROGRAM.
ANY QUESTIONS? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? IF YOU WILL, SIR, IF YOU WILL SUPPLY, SUPPLY YOUR NAME AND YOUR NUMBER AS A CONTACT SO THAT WHEN WE DO A WORKSHOP ON THIS WHERE WE BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE, UH, SURE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT ON THE FORM THAT I SENT IN FOR THIS, UM, PRIOR TO BEING CONNECTED TO YOU.
UM, I HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
IF YOU WILL ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME CLEARLY? I CAN HEAR YOU.
I'M LOCATED IN PORT ROYAL, UH, EXACT ADDRESS, NOT NECESSARY.
I'M ESSENTIALLY HERE TO READ OFF, UH, I'M THE INVESTIGATOR.
WHO'S LOOKING INTO EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
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DIRECTLY.UM, AND I HAVE AN EMAIL THAT I WANTED TO READ OFF.
MAYBE, UH, MAYBE YOU THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE SENDING AN EMAIL TO ANOTHER SOCCER MOM, BUT I'LL JUST READ IT ALOUD.
THE PERMANENT MASK ORDINANCE IS ON TODAY'S AGENDA, BUT IT WILL BE REMOVED FOR THE COUNTY MATH COORDINATOR.
I HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO SOFTEN IT.
UNLIKE HILTON AND OTHER MUNICIPAL ORDINANCES.
THERE'S BEEN NO CRIMINAL PENALTIES AND NO REQUIREMENTS TO WEAR THE MASK OUTDOORS.
IT'S MORE OF A SUGGESTION THAN A REQUIREMENT AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, THIS IS NO LONGER ABOUT QUOTE UNQUOTE SCIENCE.
IT IS ABOUT HYSTERIA CREATED BY A 24 SEVEN DRUM BEAT BY THE NATIONAL MEDIA THAT WAS WRITTEN BY PAUL SOMERVILLE.
THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVERYONE DESERVES TO KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE LYING TO US.
NOW, THE PUBLIC FONDUE IT'S ALREADY GONE VIRAL.
WHAT YOU'VE DECIDED TO DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HIDE IT INTO A THANKSGIVING MANDATE TO WHERE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SNEAK IT IN WHILE EVERYBODY'S ON VACATION, NOT HAPPENING ON FOLLOWING YOU EACH INDIVIDUALLY, I'VE BEEN RECORDING YOU.
DO YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE KEPT YOUR MASK ON AND ALL OF THE SITUATIONS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DEEM THAT WE HAVE TO WEAR A MASK.
I PROMISE YOU, YOU HAPPENED SO UNDERSTAND WE'RE WALKING AND WE ARE GOING TO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE FORWARD AS IS THE REST OF AMERICA.
THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE BACKGROUND.
CAN YOU THE MEETING? I CAN, YES.
I'M TRYING TO CALL IN WITH A COMMENT.
MY NAME IS REBECCA BASS AND I RESIDE AT 36 RIGHTS POINT CIRCLE IN BUFORD THREE MINUTES.
I HAVE TWO COMMENTS ON TWO DIFFERENT SUBJECTS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO THE FIRST I DON'T BELIEVE HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
I NEEDED TO TURN OFF ANYTHING YOU'VE GOT IN THE BACKGROUND.
I GUESS I HAVE TO MUTE YOUR MEETING.
HOW'S THAT? CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? OKAY, SO I'LL START AGAIN.
I LIVE AT 36 WRIGHT POINT CIRCLE IN BUFORD, AND THERE ARE TWO ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN TRANSPIRING WITH REGARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
AND LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE FIRST TEST TO DO WITH OUR OUTGOING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, ASHLEY JACOBS.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, REMINDED THE CALLERS, INCLUDING THE, MYSELF AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO BE RESPECTFUL IN OUR COMMENTS, WHICH I ALWAYS ENDEAVOR TO BE, BUT I DON'T FEEL THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS PERFORMING THEIR JOB WITH RESPECT FOR US AS TAXPAYERS AND CITIZENS OF OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
I AM COMPLETELY DISGUSTED AND DISHEARTENED.
FRANKLY, THE COUNCIL SEEMS TO HAVE GANGED UP ON ASHLEY JACOBS AND FORCED HER TO RESIGN WITH NO EXPLANATION TO THE PUBLIC, ALL OF THIS, HAVING TO BE DONE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
AND IT'S THE OPINION OF MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS THAT I KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SHE HAS BEEN THE CONSUMMATE PROFESSIONAL, LEADING THE COUNTY WITH TRANSPARENCY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IT DOES SEEM TO BE TRUE THAT, UM, WHEN SHE COMPLAINED THAT THE FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNCIL WAS DOING AN END RUN AROUND HER AND INTERFERING WITH HER OPERATIONAL DUTIES, THAT FROM THAT MOMENT ON, SHE WAS ESSENTIALLY DEAD IN THE JOB AND THEY JUST FINISHED HER OFF IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER, AND THAT IS WHAT QUALITY ADMINISTRATOR IN THEIR RIGHT MIND CONSIDER COMING TO BUFORD COUNTY IN THE FUTURE AFTER THIS INCREDIBLE SHOW OF BULLYING, BY WHAT APPEARED TO BE A BUNCH OF GOOD OLD BOYS.
AND I AM JUST DISHEARTENED AND DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR, AND REALLY THINK THAT YOU NEED TO DO SOME SERIOUS SOUL SEARCHING ABOUT HOW YOU TREATED ASHLEY JACOBS.
THE SECOND COMMENT I HAVE IS ABOUT THIS, UH, UH, PENDING MASK ORDINANCE.
UH, MY BACKGROUND IS AS AN ATTORNEY AND I WANT TO BUILD ON THE COMMENTS THAT THE CALLER BEFORE ME, WHO'S OBVIOUSLY A VERY WELL-INFORMED AND SMART PHYSICIAN.
MY COMMENT HAS TO DO BEYOND THE FACT OF WHETHER THEY MISMATCH WORK OR NOT.
UH, IT SEEMS THAT THIS ORDINANCE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE TIED TO THE GOVERNOR'S DECLARATION OF A STATE OF EMERGENCY
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IN OUR STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.AND IT IS RATHER OUTRAGEOUS TO ME THAT WHEN, WHEN THE MAJORITY, UH, REQUIRED MAJORITY OF EIGHT VOTES WAS NOT ABLE TO BE ACHIEVED TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION OF A MASS COORDINATES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.
SOMEHOW YOU ALL FOUND A LOOPHOLE TO TRY AND PUSH THROUGH THIS MASS ORDINANCE EXTENSION, NOT TIED TO THE GOVERNOR STATE OF EMERGENCY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A LOWER, UH, VOTE BY A LOWER NUMBER OF MEMBERS.
AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO SUNSET PROVISION IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.
AND TO THE END, THE VIEW OF MANY OTHER CITIZENS THAT I AM TIED WITH THE COMMUNITY, THIS IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF GOVERNMENT OVERREACH, AND I IMPLORE YOU TO STOP THIS MADNESS AND NOT TO PASS THEM WITH MASS GORDON AS IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, NEXT PERSON, CHAIRMAN, WHATEVER YOU HAVE IN THE BACKGROUND, AND THEN ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME ADDRESS, PLEASE.
UM, MY NAME IS VALLEY BUBECK AND THEN I'M CALLING CHAIRMAN.
I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN HOW YOU'VE SHUT OUT YOUR CITIZENS FROM SPEEDING BY NOT POSTING IT ON FACEBOOK.
UM, PEOPLE, OTHER THAN ME SHARING A LINK, OTHER ALTERNATIVE WAY, WE HAVE HAD NO WAY OF GETTING ON TO LISTEN IN AND PARTICIPATE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT, UM, I IMAGINE SOME LAWYERS HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT THAT.
UM, UH, CALLING, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM BEING JUST INCREDIBLY DISAPPOINTED IN HOW YOU RUN YOUR MEETINGS AND THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AND HOW YOU'VE TREATED ASHLEY, JACOB, AND ALSO NOW THIS MASK ISSUE AS WELL.
SO OUR COUNTY'S ROUGHLY LOOKED AT THAT 192,000 TO 193,000.
AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE LOST 88 PEOPLE FROM COVID.
AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT, UM, THIS NUMBER INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO DIED WITH IT.
I KNOW OF TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT ON THEIR DESK AND IT'S NOT WHAT THEY DIED FROM.
IN THE MEANTIME, YOU ARE CONTINUING TO HARM OUR BUSINESSES FROM MARCH UNTIL JULY BUFORD COUNTY.
THE ECONOMIC IMPACT WAS $310 BILLION.
THAT WAS A HIT TO OUR HOSPITALITY, THE ECONOMIC LOSSES, THE JOB LOSS AND DAMAGE WAS 10 TIMES THAT OF THE RECESSION OF 2008, ACCORDING TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, THERE WAS A 50% JOB LOSS IN LODGING AND THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AND RESTAURANTS, 50% OF THE PEOPLE WERE NOT WORKING.
CURRENTLY 74% OF THOSE SURVEYED WE'VE HAD OVER A HUNDRED RESPONSES ARE SHOPPING LESS BECAUSE OF THE MASK MANDATE.
SO YOU'RE CONTINUING TO HURT OUR BUSINESSES AND OUR LOCAL ECONOMY BECAUSE OF A MASK MANDATE, WHICH IS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
THERE ARE MORE THAN 30 STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.
THAT SHOW THAT THAT MASKS CANNOT STOP RESPIRATORY VIRUSES.
THEY WERE NEVER INTENDED FOR THAT HAD AMPLE MEDICAL EVIDENCE PROVIDED TO YOU, CHOOSE TO USE YOUR OWN OPINIONS, HER OWN FEAR, AND IS NOT ONLY PUTTING EVERYBODY ELSE'S LIVES AT RISK.
YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR OWN LIFE AT RISK.
THESE MASKS ARE A FALSE SECURITY.
ANYBODY GETS SICK, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT THEM HAVING A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.
AND THE COUNTY IS NOW PUTTING THEMSELVES IN LEGAL JEOPARDY BY ENFORCING SOMETHING THAT CAN CAUSE MORE HARM THAN.
IF YOU COULD GET THESE MEETINGS BACK ON FACEBOOK, UH, ANYONE ELSE NEXT PERSON, PLEASE.
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MUTE ANYTHING.THAT'S IN THE BACKGROUND AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU BELLE IS 11 MARSH DRIVE BLEEDINGS ISLAND.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES PLEASE.
I HAD EMAILED EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS POSTED THROUGH THE WEBSITE.
MY COMMENT TO THE HIPAA ACT AND THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
I AM ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO CANNOT MEDICALLY WEAR A MASK.
AND YET I ENCOUNTERED EVERY SINGLE STORES THAT WILL BORROW MY PRESENCE AND PREVENT ME FROM USING THEIR FACILITIES.
THIS IS IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE AWARE OF THE HIPAA ACT AND AMERICAN WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE PEOPLE LIKE ME WITHOUT ACCESS TO SERVICES AND BUSINESSES.
I'M NOT A LITIGIOUS PERSON, BUT IF I CONTINUE TO FIND THROUGH THIS MANDATE, YOU HAVE THAT ON ITEM.
NUMBER 10 OF YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT HAS NO SEVERABILITY DATE OR TIME LIMIT.
I MAY BE MAKING A PHONE CALL TO MS. BASS AND SEEKING HER SERVICES AND OTHER INDIVIDUALS LIKE ME.
YOU LEAVE BUSINESSES AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OPEN TO LAWSUITS, JUST LIKE THIS.
YOU PLACE THEIR BUSINESSES IN JEOPARDY BY DENYING US ACCESS.
CAN YOU PLEASE OUR HEALTH IN JEOPARDY BY DENYING ME SERVICES DO NOT PASS THIS ORDINANCE.
YOU HAD THE FIRST READING ONLY ONE WEEK AGO, AND I'M FINDING THAT IT'S AMAZING HOW FAST YOU HAVE MOVED ON THIS ONE ISSUE.
GO AHEAD, PLEASE MUTE ANYTHING.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
GO AHEAD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
MY NAME IS LORI AND I LIVE IN BLUFFTON AND YOU KNOW, I CAN SIT AND I CAN MAKE A COMMENT, BUT I GUESS I WANT YOU TO INTERACT WITH ME A LITTLE BIT, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND TELL US WHY.
ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS MEETING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO START AT SIX O'CLOCK IS NOT ON FACEBOOK ANYMORE.
I INDICATED THAT FACEBOOK IS A SOCIAL MEDIA AND THAT IT IN FACT HAD VERY DEROGATORY COMMENTS FOR SPECIFIC MEMBERS, WHICH IS INAPPROPRIATE, OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS, SPECIFICALLY STATE HOW WE INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO BE.
WE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT VENUE NEXT WEEK, OR NEXT TIME WE MEET, UH, TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC, TO VIEW WHAT WE ARE DOING.
SO WHO, WHERE WAS THE DEROGATORY COMMENT AND WHO WAS, WHO WAS, UH, BROUGHT OUT THAT YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT? ISN'T FOR US TO HAVE THAT.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU.
I AM TO THE POINT THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN STOPPED BY A POLICE OFFICER IN MY LIFE.
AND IF YOU WANT TO LOCK ME UP, GO AHEAD, BECAUSE I WILL FIGHT FOR THIS.
I WILL FIGHT FOR MY KIDS, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING TO MY DAUGHTER, WHO IS SITTING IN A CLASS EIGHT HOURS A DAY, NOT JUST MY DAUGHTER, BUT MY SON AS WELL.
THEY SIT IN SCHOOL TWICE A WEEK, EIGHT HOURS A DAY WITH A MASK ON THEIR FACE.
MY DAUGHTER IS BREAKING OUT IN RASHES.
THEY HAVE PSYCHOLOGICAL THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEENAGERS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO LOCK ME UP, I'M DONE WITH YOUR MASK ORDINANCE.
YOU CAN SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DON'T SHINE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT I THINK IS JUST OUTRAGEOUS.
I THINK THAT YOU'RE HIDING BEHIND YOUR SCREEN, YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN.
AND I WAS AT A MEETING, A RALLY YESTERDAY AND JERRY, WHO IS THE CLERK OF COURT.
JUST ANNOUNCED THAT EVERYBODY WHO GETS JURY DUTY IS EXPECTED TO SHOW UP BECAUSE THE COURTS ARE OPEN.
IF I UNDERSTAND, IF THE COURTS ARE OPEN, THEN THEY'RE OPEN AND BUFORD COUNTY AS WELL.
SO THERE IS NO REASON THAT YOU'RE HIDING IN YOUR HOUSE AND YOU'RE NOT COMING OUT IN MEETING THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE OUTRAGED ABOUT THIS AND YOU WANT TO BE THE FIRST IN THE NATION TO PASS THIS KIND OF MANDATE.
AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE
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PEOPLE HAVE CALLED YOUR PHONE TODAY.AND THEY TOLD ME WHAT YOU HAD TOLD THEM, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND YOU SAY, OH, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T KNOW, UNDERSTAND THE ORDINANCE OR SHE AND ANOTHER FRIEND BROUGHT UP $130, MILLION DOLLAR LOSS TO HILTON HEAD.
AND YOU SAID WE ALREADY MADE UP THAT MONEY.
WELL, WHY DON'T YOU TELL THE LITTLE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN GOING OUT OF BUSINESS? HOW DID YOU GUYS MAKE UP THAT MONEY? CAN YOU TELL US NO COMMENT? OKAY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH OUR PETITIONS AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN COURT.
ANY OTHERS THERE'S ONE ON NOW.
YOU MAY HAVE TO PROMPT THEM TO SAY THEIR NAME AND THE PERSON ONLINE.
PLEASE SAY THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS PENN CENTER ST.
UM, I'M REPRESENTING, UM, UH, PENN CENTER.
UM, MR. MARION BURNS IS HAVING A MEDICAL PROCEDURE DONE AND COULDN'T BE WITH US TODAY.
SO, UM, UM, I'M REPRESENTING PENN CENTER BECAUSE THIS IS THE THIRD READING, UM, UM, UH, REGARDING, UM, OUR PRESERVATION PROJECT.
AND IN CASE ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PENN CENTER PROJECT, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WISH TO MAKE, WE'LL BE GLAD TO HEAR THEM.
UM, IS HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF ME.
YOU'LL BE ONLINE DURING THE MEETING.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO YOU, MR. GENERIC, THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH MR. BURNS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS.
WE'VE NOW APPROACHED 36 MINUTES AND THERE'S NOW TWO MORE.
WILL YOU, UH, ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? COUNCIL MEMBERS PRIOR TO OCTOBER, I HAVE TRUSTED THAT THE FOLKS POINTED TO REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS DID SO.
HOWEVER, THE MASK MANDATE STRIKES ME AS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD NOT BE A MANDATE, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE A CHOICE FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS.
SO NOW I TUNE IN AT THE LAST MEETING, THE FIRST PUBLIC SPEAKER, TOTED HIMSELF AS A DOCTOR WITH IN-DEPTH EXPERIENCE IN THE COVID FIELD AND INSIGHTFUL KNOWLEDGE OF MASS.
AND HE IS NOT LICENSED IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND HE'S NEVER PRACTICED MEDICINE AND SOUTH CAROLINA BASED ON HIS ONLINE CREDENTIALS.
IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT HE'S EVER BEEN A PRACTICING PHYSICIAN.
HIS CAREER HAS BEEN ON THE ADMIN SIDE, FOCUSED ON MEDICAL DEVICES AND PATENTS.
HE'S CURRENTLY A RADIO COMMENTATOR FOR W V GB AND BUFORD AS THE MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT REGARDING COVID-19.
SO WILL HIS JOB BE OVER WHEN THE COVID 19 HYSTERIA? AND I THINK THAT MAKES HIS MOTIVATION CLEAR STAGING A COVID-19 RADIO COMMENTATOR TO CALL IN UNDER THE GUISE OF A PRACTICING DOCTOR AND PRESENT A SCRIPTED NARRATIVE TO FURTHER CHAIRMAN PASSING MONTH'S AGENDA IS DECEITFUL AND FRAUDULENT AS MUCH.
SO AS PUTTING THIS PERMANENT MANDATE DIRECTLY ON THE AGENDA, INSTEAD OF IN COMMITTEE FIRST, THIS IS A VIOLATION OF PROCEDURES AND IT'S A FRAUD ON THE TAXPAYERS AND BUFORD COUNTY, HONESTLY, ALL OF THIS THINGS WORSE THAN OPERATION.
IT SEEMS THAT I'M BEING RECONNECTED.
THIS IS ERIC LAWSON, MOLECULAR BIOLOGISTS FROM UC BERKELEY.
UM, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE PAST
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PERIOD OF TIME I'VE BEEN ON ELEVATOR MUSIC.UM, IS THERE SOMETHING YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR ME OR IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I CAN ADD? I THINK THE LAST THING YOU SAID WAS I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BEING ON A WORKSHOP.
I THINK SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT BEFORE I HUNG UP BEFORE I WAS PUT ON HOLD AGAIN.
UM, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HELPING YOU GUYS OUT WITH A WORKSHOP AND EXPLAINING ANY BIOLOGICAL INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE MY FORM.
AND MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MY NUMBER THERE, (617) 386-9953.
AND MY EMAIL IS LAWSON'S TWO@YAHOO.COM, WHICH IS LAWSON L A W S O N S T W O@YAHOO.COM.
YES, I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE YOUR INFORMATION.
SO PLEASE INFORM ME IF YOU HAVE A WORKSHOP UPCOMING, I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN ATTENDING.
AND OUR FINAL COMMON, GO AHEAD.
HI, CHRIS RUFFNER, HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE WITH THE PREVIOUS LADY HAD SAID WITH THE HEALTH CONDITION, I ALSO HAVE A HEALTH CONDITION AND THE, UM, THE REASONING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR HAVING A FALL WEAR MASK ARE TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO HAVE ASTHMA AND OTHER CONDITIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S HARD FOR US TO BREATHE.
AND OBVIOUSLY IF WE DID CONTACT COVID, IT WOULD NOT GO WELL FOR US, BUT WE CANNOT WEAR THE MASK.
AND WE'RE THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING ATTACKED.
EVEN IF WE HAVE WE'RE TO THE POINT NOW WHERE THEY SAY THEY, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE HAVE AN EXEMPTION, WE STILL CAN'T ENTER.
SO WE ARE BEING DENIED SERVICES.
AND, UM, I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE FACING LAWSUITS OVER THIS, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT SUPPOSEDLY EVERYONE'S PROTECTING AND WE'RE THE ONES BEING DENIED SERVICES AND NOT ABLE TO GO OUT.
AND WE ARE FINE WITH EVERYBODY.
IF YOU WANT TO WEAR A MASK, YOU CAN, THERE'S MASKS OUT THERE THAT PROTECT, JUST DO, PLEASE WEAR THOSE.
THE REST OF US WOULD LIKE TO LIVE LIFE.
AND YOU, UM, COUNTY PEOPLE AND THE TOWNS, YOU ALL ARE IN YOUR HOMES AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO WORK AND WE CAN ENTER THE GOVERNMENT BUILDING, WHICH BY THE WAY, WE'RE PAYING TAXES ON.
AND SOMEHOW THE PEOPLE AT THE GROCERY STORES AND TARGET AND HOME DEPOT AND THE NURSES AND THE POLICE, THEY ARE ALL ABLE TO GO OUT AND DO THEIR JOBS.
AND YOU PEOPLE, IF WE'RE IN AN EMERGENCY, LIKE YOU SAY, WHERE WE ARE, THEN YOU NEED TO GET TO WORK AND GET TO YOUR PLACE OF BUSINESS SO THAT WE CAN COME AND SEE YOU AND, UM, TALK TO YOU.
AND, UM, OTHERWISE I WOULD SAY YOU'RE NOT ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED YOU BECAUSE JUST SITTING IN YOUR HOMES, YOU'RE NOT THE ONE THAT HAS TO BE OUT THERE FIGHTING LIKE THE REST OF US, UM, WEARING A MASK, YOU CAN STAY HOME AND STILL GET PAID AND HAVE GOOD OLD TIME.
BUT THE REST OF US HAVE TO GO OUT AND WORK WITH A MASK ALL DAY.
AND, UM, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE SCIENCE AND JUST DETERMINE THAT THE NUMBERS DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR CONTINUING MANDATES AND ESPECIALLY ONE THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, NO END IN SIGHT WITH NO END DATE.
UH, WE WILL END THE COMMENTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH THE BUSINESS AGENDA.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE DELAYS ON IN COMMITTEE REPORTS.
AND AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE CAUCUS SECTION, THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES.
SO WE WILL HAVE THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS ADDRESS THOSE ITEMS. SO WE WILL BEGIN WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I'M SORRY.
FIRST I AM FIRST READING COUNTY BUSINESS LICENSE TAX STANDARDIZATION ORDINANCE.
THIS IS BASICALLY PUTTING US ON PAR WITH
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THE STATE DID RECENTLY.I REMEMBER TWO FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF ANY SPECIAL SOURCE OF REVENUE CREDIT AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG THESE ITALIAN AND PROJECT STONE AND SPECIAL SOURCE REVENUE CREDITS AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED.
THERE ARE TWO ITEMS. NUMBER THREE AND FOUR ARE ALSO RELATED, ALTHOUGH NOT THE SAME ITEM.
NUMBER THREE IS AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE OR IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S SEVERAL ORDINANCES TO AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE THE MULTI COUNTY PARTNER AGREEMENT BY COUNTY IN JASPER COUNTY, THAT'S PROJECT STONE, GARDEN, GLASS, AND BURGER TO REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF A FEE IN LIEU OF TAXES BY BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIES LOCATED IN THE PARK SUPPLY ZONING AND OTHER LAWS IN THE PARKS PROVIDE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT JURISDICTION ON THE PARK AND PROVIDE FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF PARK REVENUES.
WHEN JASPER COUNTY THEN FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS SEVERAL ORDINANCES.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THIS, THIS WORDING RIGHT HERE.
UM, MULTIPLE ORDINANCE ORDINANCES AND INDUCEMENT RESOLUTIONS REGARDING, UM, PROPERTY TAXES FOR PROJECT BURGER, PROJECT GARDEN, AND ALSO PROJECT GLASS.
THERE IS SOMEONE ON THAT WE CAN HEAR IN THE BACKGROUND WHILE YOU PLEASE MUTE.
THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND B FOR AT COUNTY NUMBER 2020 SLASH 12 PROJECT, UH, TO REFLECT THE APPROPRIATE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR PURCHASING REAL PROPERTY KNOWN AS THE PORT ROYAL BATTLEFIELD.
THAT WAS IT NEEDED IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
THIS IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE MARINE CORPS AIR STATION BUFORD, AND THEY CAN ONLY PUT IN UP TO 50%, WHICH LEFT US WITH A DELTA OF 12,500.
AND THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND RATING.
UH, THE FINAL GROUP IS FROM THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE AND THAT WILL BE COUNCILMAN.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PREPARE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT APPLICATION FOR DETOUR DETOUR ROAD, SIDEWALK, EXTENSION PROJECT.
BASICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO HAVE THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HELP US BUILD THE SIDEWALK ON DETOUR ROAD OUT BY THE WHALE BRANCH HIGH SCHOOL.
THE SECOND THING, NUMBER SEVEN IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PURSUE CONDEMNATION FOR PORTIONS OF PARCELS DELINEATED IN THE AGENDA.
THEY ARE ALL OVER ON LADIES DIALING AT THE INTERSECTION OF SAM'S POINT ROAD AND, UH, HIGHWAY 21.
AND THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH OUR SALES TAX PROJECTS TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW ON LADY'S ISLAND.
AND WE HAVE TO CONDEMN THEM SOME FOR LEGAL REASONS AND SOME AS PART OF A, A GENERAL EFFORT TO SPEED THIS PROCESS ALONG.
THE NEXT THING IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
UM, THAT'S REGARDING MAXINE LANE, WON'T BE VOTING ON THAT.
IT DID NOT SURVIVE OUT OF COMMITTEE.
THE NEXT ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A PETITION FOR COUNTY, A PORTION OF ADDINGS POINT ROAD TO BE RECLASSIFIED AS A PRIVATE ROAD.
WE HAD ALL THE OWNERS ALONG THIS, UM, WHAT USED TO BE A, OR WHAT IS NOW A PUBLIC PORTION OF EDDINGS POINT ROAD.
ASK IF WE WOULD PLEASE TURN IT OVER TO THEM TO ACT AS A PRIVATE ROAD, NOBODY ELSE IS AFFECTED EXCEPT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED THIS PETITION.
AND SO WE THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TAKE IT OUT OF THE COUNTY SYSTEM.
THE NEXT THING IS A RESOLUTION TO COMMISSION TO SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHANGING OUR SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING COLLECTION POINTS, THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS, AND WE'VE DETERMINED THAT WE WILL NEED TO UPGRADE OR, UH, WE, WE HAVE TO, UM, GET TO MORE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, SPECIFICALLY JOHN MILLAGE, AND DIERDRA BROWN ARE GOING TO BE APPOINTED AS ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS.
THE NEXT THING IS, UM,
WE'RE TAKING THAT OUT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
I BELIEVE THIS WILL SURVIVE AS ITEM NUMBER 19 ON THE ACTION ITEMS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER LIAISON OR COMMITTEE REPORTS FROM ANY OTHER
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COUNCIL PERSON? OKAY.SEEING NONE, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE CONSENT TO GIANT AGENDA.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT WAS AMENDED? MR. CHAIRMAN MOVE.
MS. HOWARD MAKES THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MR. RODMAN MAKES THE SECOND FOR APPROVAL.
IT HAS BEEN DULY MOTIONED AND SECONDED.
THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.
WE NOW MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 11, ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A THIRD READING AND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE 2021 PUBLIC ORDINANCE.
SO WE WILL TURN TO THE PUBLIC.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING THE THIRD READING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE 2021 BUDGET ORDINANCE? I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REGARDING OUR ORDINANCE.
SINCE THERE IS NO PUBLIC, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND SECOND FOR THE THIRD READING.
MR. SOMERVILLE MADE THE MOTION.
MR. GLOVER BILL MADE THE SECOND DISCUSSION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU SEE THAT? YEAH.
WELL, I'M SORRY, BECAUSE OF WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE, SO YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO, OH, THANK YOU.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT TO EVERYBODY.
THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THE TAX NOTICES ARE PUBLIC AND ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE FOR COLLECTION.
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING NOW IS THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT'VE ALREADY PAID WILL HAVE TO BE ISSUED A REFUND AND THE WHOLE RUN OF THE TAX NOTICES WILL HAVE TO BE REDUNDANT.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT ENTAILS, BUT, UM, BASICALLY JUST A REMINDER AND A REFRESHER THAT THE TAX MILLAGE LAST YEAR WAS IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, LOWERS THAT RATE.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S, UH, POTENTIALLY A, UM, UH, A VALID REORGANIZATION.
I'M NOT REALLY GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION MYSELF.
UH, WE HAVE SO MUCH INTERFERENCE HERE, SIR.
WOULD YOU PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF OR SARAH? IF THEY CAN'T, WOULD YOU MOVE THEM TO THE LOBBY? I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER, SIR.
PUBLIC COMMENT WAS ALREADY SAVED AS CHAIRMAN WAS ALREADY RECEIVED.
LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL, PEOPLE THAT WOULD LEAD US TO GET INPUT FROM YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER IS INCORRECT, MR. RODMAN.
UM, I GUESS WE OUGHT TO CLARIFY, UM, THIS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, THE TAXES THAT PEOPLE IS ONLINE, BUT THE TAX BILLS HAVE NOT GONE OUT.
AND IF WE PASS THIS THERE, THEN THE TAX BILLS WOULD HAVE TO BE REPRINTED AND SET OUT.
SO IT'S, IF IT'S CONFUSING TO ME, IT'S PROBABLY CONFUSING TO OTHERS AND MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT CLARIFIED AS TO WHERE WE ARE POSTING AND WHERE WE ARE ON ACTUALLY THE PHYSICAL TAX BILL.
IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ANSWER THAT AT THIS TIME, AT THIS TIME, THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE THING FOR YOU TO ANSWER.
SO LIKE I FIRST BEGAN TO SAY, THIS IS, AS YOU SAID, THE THIRD RATING, AND THIS IS NOT THE FIRST
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TIME I'VE PROVIDED THIS INFORMATION.SO I'D ENCOURAGE ALL THE VIEWERS TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
THE TAX BILLS ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR PAYMENT ONLINE.
NO ONE HAS PAID THE TAX BILLS BECAUSE COUNCIL AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION HAS SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED TIME TO RESOLVE THIS MATTER.
AS COUNCILMAN ALLEN POINTED OUT, HAD THE BILLS ACTUALLY BEEN SENT, YES, THIS WOULD BE A VERY COSTLY DISCUSSION, BUT IN COUNTY COUNCIL, STUDENT DECISION MAKING AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION THAT IS NOT OCCURRED.
SO I THINK THERE IS, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO COST TO THE CITIZENS OF BEAVER COUNTY HEARING FROM THEIR ELECTED BODY TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOWER TAX RATE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL DECIDED, BUT PLEASE DO NOT MISINFORM THE PUBLIC.
I SENT YOU A REPORT SHOWING HOW MANY PUBLIC COMMENT IS ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED, HAS ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED.
THE QUESTION WAS HAVE THE, HAS ANYBODY PAID THEIR TAXES? NO ONE HAS PAID THEIR 2020 TAXES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE FOR PAYMENTS.
AND IT CAUSES OUR OFFICE A GREAT DEAL OF PHONE VOLUME, WHICH I SHARE EVERY WEEK WHEN THIS INFORMATION IS INCORRECTLY SHARED.
SO PLEASE I HAVE NOT GONE OUT.
NO COST HAS BEEN INFERRED WHATSOEVER.
THERE IS TIME TO CORRECT WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE.
UM, BRIAN MADE A COMMENT ABOUT, UM, THE MILLAGE IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR TAX YEAR.
UM, THE 6.5 65 POINT SOMETHING, UM, MEALS.
UM, AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT TO MEAN THAT ALSO THAT, UM, WE COLLECTED MORE THAN WE NEEDED TO LAST YEAR AND THEN GOTTA BE A SURPLUS IN OUR RESERVE BECAUSE WE COLLECTED MORE.
THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT THE 4.8 WILL BE SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO BY STATE LAW AND COUNTY ORDINANCE TO MEET THE DEMANDS FOR THE COMING YEAR.
AND THEN MY QUESTION IS THAT WE COLLECT 5.8 LAST YEAR, WE COLLECTED 5.5 LAST YEAR.
SO WE COLLECTED MORE THAN WE ACTUALLY NEEDED EVEN LAST YEAR.
WELL, UH, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND I COULD BE CORRECTED IF I AM WRONG BACK IN 2018 IS WHEN WE PASSED THE, UM, REFERENDUM TO ALLOW FOR A $25 MILLION BOND FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS.
WE CREATED A BUDGET FOR 2019 THAT SEEMINGLY INDICATED THAT WE WERE IN FACT GOING TO SELL THOSE BONDS IN 2019.
AND THEREFORE THE BUDGET WAS STRUCK TO HAVE 5.5 DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES.
NO MONEY WAS NEEDED TO, UM, NO SALE WAS TAKEN PLACE IN 2019.
THE SALE FOR THOSE BONDS DID NOT TAKE PLACE UNTIL 2020 AIR GO THE 5.5 MORE THAN COVERED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS NEEDED TO PAY OFF THE BONDS THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO BE PAID OFF.
AND THERE IS A COMPLETE LISTING OF THE BONDS AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S NEEDED TO PAY THOSE BONDS DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHY THE 4.8 IS WHAT WILL ALLOW US TO HANDLE.
UH, IN ESSENCE, WE DID COLLECT SOME EXTRA DOLLARS THAT WE DID NOT NEED THAT ROLLED OVER AND WE'RE OKAY FOR THE COMING YEAR.
MR. COVERT, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP, YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE MIKE, ACTUALLY.
MR. SUMMERVILLE, UH, TO, TO YOUR QUESTION, THE FUND BALANCE NOISES FUND BALANCE FOR THE RURAL AND CRITICAL AND AT THE END 0.4 MILLION, BECAUSE WE COLLECTED MONEY IN FYI FOR YES,
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WE DID COLLECT A LOT OF MONEY AND CHAIRMAN PASSES.I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME CLARIFICATION TO YOUR STATEMENT.
YOU'RE ON MUTE, JOE, GO AHEAD, BECKER.
YOU HAD INDICATED THAT THE BOND DID NOT SELL, BUT YOU HAD ALREADY INCLUDED THE KNOWLEDGE FOR IT.
SO YOU ACTUALLY COLLECTED THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY WITHOUT ACTUALLY SELLING THE BOND.
IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY? NO.
WHAT I DID SAY WAS IN 2018, THE REFERENDUM PASSED.
IT WAS THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE BONDS WERE GOING TO SELL IN 2019.
AND THE MILLAGE WAS STRUCK TO INDICATE WHAT THE PAYMENT MIGHT'VE BEEN.
IF THOSE BONDS WERE SOLD IN 2019, THEY WERE NOT THEREFORE ADDITIONAL MONEY WAS COLLECTED.
IT'S ALL IN THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS SENT TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
SO, SO THAT WAS AN OVERCHARGE TO THE CITIZENS BY THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
NOW, NOBODY HAS, SEEMS TO ADDRESS, UH, THE FREEMIUM THAT THE FINANCE DIRECTOR HAD AS WELL.
AND THE ALLOCATION IS ANY THAT SHOULD GO WITH THAT.
BUT SINCE COUNCIL AND EMAIL TODAY, GOING OVER SOME OF THOSE DETAILS WITH REGARDS TO THE MONEY AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AT THE OCTOBER 12TH MEETING MADE A PRESENTATION AND ACTUALLY STATED THAT THE 4.8 WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO PAY THE BOND INDEBTEDNESS FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS.
I SENT THAT EMAIL TODAY AT FOUR O'CLOCK AND BECAUSE IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO COVER THE BOND INDEBTEDNESS, THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT BE ON ITS FACE, CORRECT, BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE CHARGING TOO LITTLE.
IN FACT, THE ATTACHMENT THAT I PROVIDED, WHICH IS NUMBER TWO, THE SECOND ONE TITLED SCAN NUMBER TWO PDF SHOWS THAT THE ORIGINAL 4.8 MILLAGE OF THE ORDINANCE WOULD CREATE A SHORTFALL OF SOME $605,000 MIDDLE CALCULATIONS THAT SHOW THE BREAK.
SO IF YOU APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, MOVING THE TOTAL MILLAGE FROM 65.2 TO 65.2, YOU WILL BE AN ESSENCE PUTTING THE DEATH MILLAGE FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SUE THE AUDIT OFFICE.
AND YOU WOULD ALSO NOT BE LEVYING SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO MAKE PAYMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY BOND COUNSEL.
NOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT IN EACH OF THESE THREE EXAMPLES OF THE SECOND ATTACHMENT, WHEN YOU DIVIDE THE MILLAGE, BY THE EXPECTATION OF THE REVENUES, YOU COME UP WITH THREE DIFFERENT VALUES OF A MILL.
NOW THEY'RE SMALL, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT VALUE OF A MILL SHOULD NEVER CHANGE.
AND KEEP IN MIND WHEN THE BUDGET BOOK WAS PRESENTED BACK IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, THE 4.8 MILLS WERE IDENTIFIED AND THE VALUE OF A MILL BACK IN MARCH THAT WAS USED BY THE COUNTY CFO IN THOSE PRESENTATIONS WAS 2 MILLION, 116,000 AND SOME ODD DOLLARS.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE COMPUTATIONS FROM THE FINANCE AND CFO DEPARTMENTS OF THE COUNTY CAN USE FOR DIFFERENT VALUES OF THE NEW, KNOWING THAT IF THEY GO WITH 4.8 NILS, THEY WILL NOT GENERATE A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF REVENUES TO PAY THE BOND INDEBTEDNESS.
I'D ALSO ATTACHED AS ITEM NUMBER ONE, AN ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION THAT SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES WHAT THE ROLE OF COUNTY COUNCIL IS.
AND IT SAYS THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL, THE GOVERNING BODY IS NOT REQUIRED TO TAKE ANY ACTION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY A POINT THAT COUNSELING COVERT BROUGHT UP A COUPLE, THREE MONTHS
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AGO.AND HE WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT TO GO FURTHER INTO THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINION.
IT SAYS THAT THE AUDITOR HAS THE DUTY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DETERMINE, AND TO CALCULATE THE SUFFICIENT AMOUNT FOR THE TIMELY PAYMENT, BUT THEN HE SCHEDULED BOND DEBT, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE DONE.
AND IN THE CALCULATIONS, IF YOU GO TO ATTACHMENT THREE, WHICH IS AN EMAIL THAT WAS PROVIDED TO COUNTY COUNCIL BOND TINK, THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT THOSE TAX BILLS WERE COMPLETED ON SEPTEMBER 29TH.
SO COUNTY COUNCIL AND COUNTY FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION FELL DOWN ON THEIR JOB AND DID NOT ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS TO THE AUDITOR ABOUT THE INCREASE OF ONE MILL FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS.
NOW, HAD THERE BEEN THAT DISCUSSION OR HAD THERE BEEN INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED LIKE MR. COWAN AFTER JUST INDICATED CONCERNING THE OVER BILLING OF MILLEDGE LAST YEAR FOR RURAL ONE CRITICAL LANES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT UNFORTUNATELY ADMINISTRATION, AS I SAID NOW IN THEIR JOBS AND FAIL TO COMMUNICATE WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION, I WOULD, HOW, HOW COULD ANYBODY NOT KNOWING AT THE BOTTOM OF MY CURRENT EMAIL THAT I SENT TODAY ON OCTOBER 26, I GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THE MAGICAL PROCESS IN DETERMINING WHAT THE MILLAGE WAS GOING TO BE SET AT FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANES.
EVEN IT'S KIND OF OFF KILTER JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT INDICATES WHAT THE TOTAL DEBT PROVIDED BY FOND COUNCIL IS.
AND THEN I TOOK THE BUDGET BOOK, OTHER REP THAT WAS PROVIDED BACK IN FEBRUARY AND NEVER CHANGED.
AND I SUBTRACTED THOSE REVENUES.
THEN I WENT TO THE CAFFER THE MOST RECENT CAFFER THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED.
AND THE REVENUES IN THE SINKING FUND AT THAT TIME WERE A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WHEN YOU SUBTRACT THE OTHER REVENUES AND THE DEBT SINKING FUND, YOU COME UP WITH A TOTAL AMOUNT OF OBLIGATIONS FOR DEBT AT 11 LITTLE OVER $11 MILLION.
I DIVIDED THAT BY THE VALUE OF A MIL, AND THAT VALUE WAS DETERMINED BASED ON THE GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AT THE JUNE 27, BEING IN 2019, IN WHICH THE SPOKESPERSON FROM S C D O STATED CLEARLY THAT THE AUDITOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LEVYING OF DEBT.
AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS THE BOAT FOR THE OPERATIONS THAT 11 MILLION TIMES 1.1 MILLION $885,324.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT BASED ON THAT PRESENTATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AT ANY DIGIT, THE FIRST DIGIT IS DROPPED.
AND THAT'S WHY THE AUDITOR LEADED THE 5.8 MILS.
SO NOW 40 DAYS, MORE THAN 40 DAYS.
AND AFTER THE FACT THAT THE LEVY THAT MILLAGE IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW AND BASED ON THE AUTHORITIES ON THE AUDITOR COUNTY COUNCIL WANTS TO COME BACK AND CHANGE.
WELL, IF YOU CHANGE IT, WE CHANGE IT TO THE 4.8.
YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SUFFICIENT REVENUE TO PAY THOSE BONDS.
AND SINCE I'M THE ONE THAT'S STATUTORILY RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM, THAT'S A DECISION THAT I HAVE MADE.
AND THAT THOSE 5.8 MILS NEEDS TO STAY ON THOSE TAX BILLS.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH THOSE TAX BILLS.
SO THAT ON OCTOBER 1ST, WHEN THE AUDITOR ASSIGNED THE
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DUPLICATES IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, THE TREASURER WAS SO ORDERED TO COLLECT THOSE BILLINGS.AND IN FACT, THERE WERE SOME BILLS THAT WERE PAID, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE ACTUALLY SAVED RECEIPTS, BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ONCE WE SAW THAT THEY WERE PAID, WE CAPTURED THEM IN THE SYSTEM.
NOW WE MONITORED THE THEM, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY CHANGED AND AS OPPOSED TO BEING PAID AND MOVED INTO SOME TYPE OF SURPLUS.
SO THE AUDITOR HAS COMPLIANCE TAKING 5.8.
IT WAS CORRECT BASED ON THE COMPUTATIONS THAT I'VE PROVIDED YOU.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY AT THIS POINT, MR. COVERT, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, LET'S SWITCH GEARS AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY WILL ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND, UH, BECAUSE WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT OR WHAT WAS TOLD, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO WHAT I, WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT LAST YEAR THERE WAS AN OVERAGE IN WHAT THE CITIZENS PAID.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, BUT NOBODY HAD EVER INFORMED ME OF THAT.
KEEP IN MIND THAT AT OVER 40 DAYS, UM, THAT'S FUN, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, IF ISN'T IT, OUR, ISN'T IT, OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT IF WE'VE COLLECTED TOO MUCH TAX THAT WE NOTIFY OR DID WE NOTIFY THE CITIZENS THAT WE COLLECTED TOO MUCH TAX? UM, THAT'S NOT A QUESTION I CAN ANSWER.
UM, I JUST KNOW FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WAS SENT TO US, IT SHOWED WHEN THE DEBT PAYMENTS WERE DUE FOR FISCAL 1920 AND WHAT THE INTEREST PAYMENTS WERE.
AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WAS NEEDED WAS 2.3, 5 MILLION.
BUT THE ACTUAL FUND BALANCE WAS 2.6, 7 MILLION.
SO WE HAD $325,000 EXCESS SURPLUS.
SO GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR, WE WOULD APPLY THAT AND WE WOULD NOT NEED TO COLLECT 5.8 MILLION TO 5.8 MILS BECAUSE THAT WOULD'VE GIVEN US TO AN EXTRA 1.9 MILLION.
SO I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS, ANYTIME THAT WE COLLECT MORE THAN WE SHOULD HAVE, WE SHOULD ALWAYS, WHOEVER, WHOEVER IS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT, WE SHOULD LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TOO MUCH OF YOUR MONEY AND HERE'S WHAT THE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
THE SECOND THING, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS, RIGHT, WHEN WE VOTED, WE VOTED BASED ON, OR WE'VE WE AFFIRMED 4.8, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THEN MY OPINION IS IF WE HAVE VOTED THAT WAY, WE HAVE TO STAND BEHIND HOW WE VOTE.
NOW, THE AUDITOR SAYS WE HAVE A SHORTFALL.
I DON'T KNOW, AFTER A WHILE IT'S A GLAZE DONUT, BUT LET'S JUST SAY THERE IS, ARE WE NOT, UH, CAN SOMEWHERE ELSE PAY, PAY THE DIFFERENCE? I MEAN, DOES IT HAVE TO COME FROM ONE PLACE BECAUSE I MEAN, WE NEED TO STAND BEHIND WHAT WE DID.
IT'S OUR FAULT, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT AND WE SHOULDN'T PENALIZE THEM.
THAT'S MY BAD, BUT CAN IT BE PAID SOMEWHERE ELSE? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN, MAKE A CHANGE AND TAKE IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU DO IN BUSINESS WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE COUNCILMAN COLBERT, BECAUSE REMEMBER COUNTY COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION HAD OVER 45 DAYS TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION AND EXPLANATIONS, BUT FAILED TO DO SO.
AND IT ONLY BECAME AN ISSUE AFTER THE TAX DUPLICATES HAVE BEEN A SON.
AND ONCE THEY'VE BEEN ASSIGNED, THEY ARE CORRECT.
AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, IF THERE IS TOO MUCH MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE COLLECTED OR HAS BEEN COLLECTED STATE LAW 1243 TO 85.
IT SHALL BE CREDITED BACK TO THE CITIZENS BY THE TREASURER.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT HAPPENED WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANKS.
BUT MY ONLY POINT IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING, IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WRONG.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S WRONG.
WE NEED TO STAND BEHIND IT AND PAY OR OUT OF WHATEVER
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WE CAN BY MAKING A BUDGET CHANGE.THAT IS, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S OUR FAULT.
AS FAR AS WHAT DONE, NOBODY TOLD THE LEFT-HAND.
I REALLY DON'T REALLY WANT TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE TO FIX THIS MOVING FORWARD.
MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, W W WE RECEIVED FIVE, FAIRLY LARGE FILES FROM THE, OUR FINANCIAL STAFF AND I, AS I LOOKED THROUGH IT, IT SEEMED TO ME IT'S, IT'S QUITE SIMPLE.
IF YOU LOOK, AND YOU TOUCHED ON PART OF THIS FOR THE, THE TAX YEAR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND IF WE GO WITH THE 4.8 AND YOU LOOK AT THE MILLAGES OVER THE YEARS, AND YOU LOOK AT THE EQUITY IN THE ACCOUNT, THEY ALL KIND OF BALANCE OUT IN A NICE TREND LINES.
AND CLEARLY IF WE DO THE 5.8, THERE'S AN EXTRA 2 MILLION, OR IT SHOWS UP THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE OVER COLLECTING ON THE 5.8.
AND I THINK ON THE 4.8, THERE'S A SLIGHT, UH, DEFICIT IN 20, THE REQUIRED NUMBER AND THE ENDING BALANCE, THE ENDING BALANCE IS 2.4 AND THE REQUIRED 2.6, UH THAT'S IN, IN, IN ROUNDING AND IN MY MIND.
SO I THINK, I THINK THE 4.8 IS OKAY.
AND SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION, MR.
UM, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A UNANIMOUS, I WILL CALL THE ROLE.
IT HAS BEEN DULY MOTIONED AND SECONDED, AND WE WILL BEGIN WITH MR. SOMERVILLE WHO MADE THE MOTION? I VOTE YES.
ON THE, UH, OR ON THE ORDINANCE.
WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 12, A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE CDC CODE, ARTICLE FIVE, SECTION FIVE DOT SIX DOT 50 DOT E TWO TO ALLOW FOR MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO BILLBOARDS, TO IMPROVE SAFETY STANDARDS DURING HURRICANES AND HIGH WIND EVENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO IS GOING TO COMMENT ON THIS? SARAH? OKAY.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND FOR ITEM, NUMBER 12 AS DICTATED MR.
IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY, YES.
MS. HOWARD, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST US.
I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS WILL, UH, DO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.
I THINK IT WILL PROLONG THE LIFE OF BILLBOARDS RATHER THAN, UH, AS IT WAS DESCRIBED.
SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT.
OKAY, MR. SUMMERVILLE, THANK YOU, SEAN.
I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS AS WELL, BECAUSE AS I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THE BILLBOARD, THERE ARE ALL GRANDFATHERED, BUT ONCE THEY'RE GONE, THEY'RE GONE.
THE IDEA IS TO GET RID OF THEM.
AND ALL THIS DOES IS PROLONG THE LIFE.
ANY OTHER COMMENT? NO OTHER COMMENT.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO IN A REVERSE ORDER CAUSE MR. COVERT ALWAYS HAS TO VOTE FIRST.
MR. SUMMERVILLE, MR. RODMAN? YES.
UM, MR. COVERT, I, WE HAVE, UH, LET'S SEE, UH, MR. SOMERVILLE,
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YOU SAID NO, CORRECT? CORRECT.AND YOU HAVEN'T VOTED YET? I DON'T BELIEVE NO, I HAVEN'T.
AND WE WILL HAVE TWO NOS NINE.
THAT MOVES US TO ITEM NUMBER 13, A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE BUFORD COUNTY DISTANCE LEARNING FUND AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED THERE TOO.
IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO IS GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ITEM? ANY PUBLIC? SARAH, DID YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND LOOK FOR A MOTION.
SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER 13, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. MCKELLAN MAKES THE MOTION.
MR. SUMMERVILLE MAKES THE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION? THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NO OBJECTIONS? THIS ITEM IS SUCCESSFUL.
ITEM NUMBER 14, A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR THE BUFORD COUNTY AIRPORT, AWR HANGAR GROUND LEASE AGREEMENT.
IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAKING TO THIS? THANK YOU.
THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION AND SECOND, PLEASE, FOR THIS ITEM.
SO MR.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION? THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SAYING NO.
ITEM NUMBER OF 15, A PUBLIC HEARING IN THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING ACCOMMODATIONS TAX SLASH HOSPITALITY TAX RESERVE FUND.
IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE? OKAY.
WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION AND I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.
MR. MCKELLEN MAKES THE MOTION A SECOND, PLEASE.
THAT WOULD BE MR. DAWSON MAKING THIS SECOND.
IS THERE ANY COMMENTS AND NOTICING NO COMMENTS.
THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NO OBJECTIONS, ITEM, 15 PASSES, ITEM 16, A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING TO AMEND ORDINANCE 2019 SLASH 56 PENN CENTER RENOVATIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? I BELIEVE THE LADY THAT WAS ON EARLIER.
UM, DO YOU WISH TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T.
IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS TIMES.
THIS IS AN EDITABLE EVENT THAT'S TAKING PLACE.
THEN I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE, UM, ITEM.
I'LL SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MR. GLOVER MADE THE MOTION AND MR.
THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NO OBJECTIONS? THE, UM, ITEM IS PASSED AND WE THANK YOU FOR WAITING ALL THIS TIME TO HEAR THE GOOD NEWS, UH, ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE REGARDING A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE,
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APPENDIX B TO REMOVE THE MAXIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR A MINOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS IN THE D THREE GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THE DEED FEE FOR MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE VILLAGE CENTER AND THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR DISTRICTS ON DIPHUS SKI ISLAND.IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COMMENT? I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING FOR THIS ITEM.
THEN WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION AND SECOND FOR ITEM.
NUMBER 17 AS STATED PLEASE, MR. LAWSON MIXED THE MOTION.
MAY I HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION? THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? NO OBJECTIONS.
NUMBER 18 IS THE RATIFICATION OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS SEVERANCE PACKAGE.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? MR. MCKELLAN MAKES THE MOTION.
YOU ARE THE SECOND DULY MOTION.
AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS WITH THE CHAIRMAN, MR. PERFECT SEAN, BECAUSE IT'S THERE.
THE QUESTION IS, IS ANYBODY ACTUALLY SEEN THIS DOCUMENT? THE DOCUMENT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY OUR, UM, DEPARTMENT.
IT HAS GONE TO, UH, MS. JACOBS WHO HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT ONCE COUNTY COUNCIL, IN FACT, APPROVES THAT THAT WILL BE MADE PUBLIC.
I PERSONALLY, AND JUST GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THIS AND KIND OF THE CLOUD OF SECRECY AND THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF HOW THESE THINGS ARE GONE.
I, I CAN'T PROVE AS IF I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SEEN AND, OR I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE FIRST QUESTION HERE WOULD BE, OH, WELL YOU VOTED FOR IT.
WHAT'S IT SAYING? I WOULD SAY I KIND OF KNOW WHAT I DON'T, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE WITHOUT HAVING BEEN PROVIDED THE DOCUMENT.
WELL, I WOULD SAY TO YOU, IF YOU REVIEWED THE AGENDA ITEM, SUMMARY ITEM, NUMBER 18, SPELLS IT OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE SEVERANCE PACKAGE WILL BE PART OF.
AND I GET THAT, BUT IS THAT THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT? THAT'S THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT.
THERE ARE SOME TECHNICAL LANGUAGE THAT IS ALWAYS IN THESE ABOUT, UM, UM, THE PERSON WILL NOT SUE THE COUNTY.
WE WILL GIVE HER, UM, UH, A RECOMMENDATION, UH, MR. TAYLOR, IF I MISSED ANYTHING, NO, SHE'LL, SHE'LL GET A NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION, BUT OTHERWISE THE TERMS ARE EXACTLY AS STATED ON THE AIS AND THEY COME FROM HER EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT, WHICH WAS NEGOTIATED WHEN SHE WAS HIRED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO DO I NEED TO CALL MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
SO I WAS, I WAS OKAY, AND NOW I'M, NOW I'M NOT.
SO WE ONLY GOT PART OF THE PACKAGE.
I MEAN, YOU SAID IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, DON'T SUE ME.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD, A GOOD WORD.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S ALL IT IS, WHY ISN'T THAT PART OF THIS? UM, CHRIS'S RIGHT.
PUBLIC PERCEPTION IS ALL ON, ON GETTING THAT, UH, WELL IT'S SPELLED OUT EXACTLY.
WHAT'S THERE, THERE IS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS PUT IN BY THE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE ALWAYS DONE IN A SEVERANCE PACKAGE.
IT HAS BEEN SIGNED BY MS. JACOBS.
ONCE WE APPROVE THIS, THAT DOCUMENT WILL BE RELEASED PUBLICLY AND TO COUNTY COUNCIL.
SORRY, I MIGHT MAKE A COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE MAYBE MISSING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND A SEVERANCE PACKAGE.
AND I THINK THE SEVERANCE PACKAGE, THE DETAILS THAT YOU HAVE HERE, AREN'T SUFFICIENT FOR OUR PURPOSES TO VOTE FOR A SEVERANCE PACKAGE, THAT WE THEN HAVE A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
MICHAEL AND CHRIS, I THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REALLY NEED TO BE HERE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT A COPY OF IT, BUT WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR IS OUR PORTION OF THE SEVERANCE PACKAGE AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH LOADING.
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THANK YOU, MR.I THINK AS LONG AS THAT EXACT THING IS RELAYED, SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK THEY CAN ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE CONTRACTUAL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, MS. JACOBS WOULDN'T WANT OUT THERE AND WE DON'T WANT OUT THERE.
UH, SO I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, THAT WAS WELL STATED, MR.
SO, UM, UH, CAN THIS BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? I SEE NO OBJECTIONS.
THEREFORE ITEM NUMBER 18 HAS PASSED ITEM NUMBER 19 COMES FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS A DISCUSSION OF THE US TWO 78 INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION SHOWS YOU EXACTLY WHAT JARED FRAELICH HAS PUT TOGETHER.
WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE AS PART OF THE TASK.
AND I SHOULD EMPHASIZE ON THE WORD, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
UM, I HAVE SPOKEN TO JARED ABOUT THE VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT ARE, ARE BEING, UH, NAMED OR THEIR NAMES ARE BEING TOSSED ABOUT.
UM, SO, UH, I WOULD SEEK A MOTION AND SECOND, AND WE CAN HAVE ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION YOU NEED ON THIS ITEM.
SO MOVED MR. CHAIRMAN, MR.
MR. RODMAN MAKES THE SECOND ANY DISCUSSION.
UM, IF I, IF I COULD, MR. CHAIRMAN, I GUESS I'LL GO FIRST AND I SEE JARED IS ON THE LINE, AND SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM HERE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE TO JARED FRAELICH, WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ADMINISTRATION WHO SPEARHEADING THIS EVENT? YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH, JARED, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SPECIFICALLY THE, UM, THE CONCERNS ADDRESSED BY SENATOR DAVIS HAVE BEEN RESPONDED TO EITHER IN THIS DOCUMENT OR YOU HAVE THE, UM, WHAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THE ANSWER OR TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE QUESTIONS THAT HE HAD.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT? BECAUSE THAT IS ROCK SOLID FOR US.
WE NEED SENATOR DAVIS TO BE HAPPY SINCE HE'S PROVIDING, UH, THE LION'S SHARE OF THE MONEY HAS BEEN HELPFUL IN PROVIDING LION'S SHARE OF THE MONEY, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT.
IS HE, IS HE GOOD TO GO? YES, SIR.
UM, SO IT WAS PREPARED IN THE AGENDA, UM, IS, IS THE SAME DOCUMENT.
AND THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED AS PART OF PUBLIC FACILITIES, WHICH WAS ALSO REQUESTED THAT, UH, SENATOR DAVIS COMMENTS BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET THE, THE SCOPE, UM, UPDATED PRIOR TO THIS AGENDA PACKET.
UM, BUT SINCE THEN, SENATOR DAVIS HAS PROVIDED, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT WERE SENT AROUND.
AND WITH THOSE COMMENTS, HE ACTUALLY WAS ACTUALLY MORE SPECIFIC, UM, THAT I CAN TAKE THOSE COMMENTS AND PLUG THOSE DIRECTLY INTO THE SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT FITS INTO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT HERE TO NOW TODAY.
UM, SO I DO HAVE EVERYTHING I NEED FROM SENATOR DAVIS, UH, TO FULLY, UM, FINALIZE WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
JUST TO CLARIFY FOR EVERYBODY, UM, THE, THE, THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE IS, UH, LIKE AN RFQ OR AN RFP, AND THAT DOES NOT NEED TO BE APPROVED BY COUNTY COUNCIL.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GIVING THE ADMINISTRATION AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE AND CONTRACT FOR THESE AMOUNTS.
AND SO, SO THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ISN'T NECESSARILY WHAT WE NEED TO APPROVE TODAY, BUT I THINK THIS LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE GIVES US A GENERAL OUTLINE AND THEN THE SPECIFIC DIRECTION TO JARED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ADDITIONAL INQUIRY SUB-CENTER TO DAVIS IS SUFFICIENT FOR OUR PURPOSES.
UH, I DID READ WHAT SENATOR DAVIS HAD PUT TOGETHER.
UH, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY, UH, COMPLICATE THE SCOPE IN ANY FORM AND, AND, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, AS PART OF THE
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APPROVAL THAT, UH, HIS, UM, SENATOR DAVIS' COMMENTS BE INCORPORATED, UH, AS HE PROPOSED, WELL, THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO WHAT IS THERE, RIGHT.SO, UM, HOLD ON ONE SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AMEND THE AGENDA ITEM TO INCLUDE THE COMMENTS FROM SENATOR DAVIS.
SO NOW WE WILL SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT, MR. GLOVER.
I MEAN, I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT YOU, AND I'M SEEING MR. COVERT AND SORRY ABOUT THAT, MR. MR. COVERT.
UM, YEAH, I, I I'VE MISUNDERSTOOD THAT AS LONG AS MR. SENATOR DAVIS HAS COMMENTS ARE ADDED TO THE SCOPE.
UM, AND MR.
WELL, IT'S THE, WE ARE VOTING ON THIS DOMESTIC.
IS THERE THE TASKS, ARE THERE THE DELIVERABLES, ARE THERE ANY TWEAKING THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY JARED TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE COMMENTS FROM SENATOR DAVIS HAS BEEN PUT IN WILL BE DONE? UH, WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE THE COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY CAN BEGIN TO DO THEIR WORK.
I GUESS MY POINT MICHAEL WAS THAT, UM, THAT THE COMMENTS BY SENATOR DAVIS COULD BE FOLDED IN WITHOUT SERIOUSLY CHANGING THE SCOPE OF WORK OR REQUIRING MORE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.
I JUST, YOU UNDERSTAND, I DON'T LIKE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT, ON THE PREMISE THAT IT, YEAH.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, QUESTION FOR JARED.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M 6000000% GOOD ON THIS, UM, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE AMENDED AMENDMENT SOLVES THE PROBLEM, BUT WE GOT AN EMAIL THIS AFTERNOON FROM THE CONCERNED CITIZEN GROUP.
UM, THE SUBJECT LINE IN COMPLETE HDR CONTRACT DOES THIS AMENDMENT.
SO SENATOR DAVIS IS, UH, COMMENTS BEING ADDED TO THE SCOPE.
DOES THIS SATISFY ALL PARTIES INVOLVED HERE? OKAY.
SO THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS OR MARKUPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WERE EXCLUDED OR NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE, MR. RODMAN? WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY TO CHRIS, THIS QUESTION, UH, THERE WAS A, UH, A LONG EMAIL FROM, UH, UM, STEVEN BEAR.
AND I THINK HE ACTUALLY WAS TAKING EXCEPTION TO THE SCOPE OF WORK.
SO I STILL THINK THERE'S SOME, SOME OPEN ISSUES THERE FOR US THAT ARE NOT TOTALLY RESOLVED, BUT IT SHOULDN'T, IT SHOULDN'T STOP US FROM MOVING FORWARD AND WE CAN FIX WHAT WE NEED TO UNDER RUN.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GETTING AT, BUT IT SEEMS, YOU KNOW, IN MY INTERPRETATION OF THE EMAIL, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER AND I HAVEN'T BEEN AS FAR DOWN IN THE WEEDS AS SOME OTHERS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMENTS THAT WERE IN THAT BASICALLY PRIZED IN TOM'S COMMENTS AND THAT WE'RE NOT LEAVING ANYTHING OUT HERE.
CHRIS, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WOULD BE MISSING THEM? I HAVE ONE OTHER THING AFTER WE, THIS MOTION, IF I COULD, IS IF WE GET THIS ONE WELL WITH WE'RE DOING THE AMENDMENT FIRST, AND THEN THE MOTION, THE AMENDMENT IS TO INCLUDE THE COMMENTS FROM SENATOR DAVIS, MR. RODMAN MADE THE MOTION, MR. FULL WELLING MADE THE SECOND.
DO I NEED TO CALL A ROLL CALL OR CAN WE DO THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION? I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY SAYING WE CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT OBJECTION.
SO THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NONE WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH IS THE TWO 78 WITH NOW THE, UH, AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THE COMMENTS FOR, UH, SENATOR DAVIS.
AND SECOND, MR. RODMAN, ANY COMMENT? YEAH.
I HAD A SET IN A SECOND MOTION.
UH, W WE ACTUALLY AT COUNCIL SIX WEEKS AGO APPROVED A SCOPE OF WORK AND CERTAIN, UH, FOUR QUESTIONS, UM, OR THREE QUESTIONS, I GUESS.
AND, UH, UH, AND I THINK THEY'RE BASICALLY ALL PRETTY MUCH COVERED
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IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT RATHER THAN, UH, GO BACK AND CANCEL WHAT WE DID BEFORE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION THAT WE INCLUDE THOSE THREE QUESTIONS THAT WE APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY IN THE SCOPE OF WORK ALSO TO BE ANSWERED.IS THERE A SECOND TO HIS AMENDMENT? DO I'M UNCLEAR HELP ME? OKAY.
WELL BASICALLY BRIAN, WE, WE, WE, UH, SIX WEEKS AGO, UH, APPROVED A, A SCOPE OF WORK, UH, THAT HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO THEM, UH, HEAVILY FOCUSED ON, DO WE HAVE ALL THE ALTERNATIVES IN, AND IS THERE ROOM FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO BE CONSIDERED AND, UH, IS THE UNDERLYING TRAFFIC DEMAND, CORRECT.
AND THOSE ARE KIND OF COVERED TRANSIT, UH, SLIGHTLY IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASIC QUESTIONS THAT COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING.
I DON'T THINK IT CREATES ANY ADDITIONAL WORK.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT NORMALLY SHOULD BE DONE ANYWAY.
UH, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE US, UH, SINCE WE APPROVED THAT UNANIMOUSLY INCLUDE THAT IN THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT DOESN'T INCREASE IN, DOESN'T INCLUDE THE COSTS BEFORE I SECOND.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SECOND THIS, BUT I NEED JARED TO ASSURE ME THAT THAT WON'T SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS OR CAUSE AN INCREASE IN THE COST.
IS THAT CORRECT? JARED, AS COUNCILMAN RODMAN NOTED, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE INHERENT TO THE SCOPE THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED, SO THEY WILL ALL BE COVERED IN THIS REVIEW.
I'D LIKE TO SECOND THE PLEASE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE AMENDMENT? WE'VE AMENDED IT ONCE.
THIS IS THE SECOND AMENDMENT MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, I JUST WANT TO HEAR AGAIN FROM MR. FELIX, IF WE GO DOWN THAT ROAD, LOOKING AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES, WE COULD REALLY BE OPENING UP A CAN OF WORMS. UM, I MEAN, HOW FAR DO YOU GO AT LOOKING AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES? ARE YOU LOOKING AT JUST A CHANGE IN THE ROUTE A LITTLE BIT, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHOLE NEW ALTERNATIVES TO BE EVALUATED, RIGHT? NO, WE ARE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES THAT SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE ALREADY EVALUATED AND LET GO BY DLT TO MAKE SURE THEY WEREN'T A GO PRIOR TO, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT NEW ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE NOT DISCUSSED AT THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SOME NEW ALTERNATIVES, UM, BEING A REVERSE LANE REVERSIBLE LANE, UM, OR THE TIE IN LOCATION AS IT TIES INTO CROSS ON PARKWAY, WHICH EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS EXPLORED EARLY ON.
SO WE'LL NEED, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEN I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE, AND WHICH I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC SOME MORE PUBLIC INPUT AS A RESULT OF THESE OTHER ALTERNATIVES.
TURNITIN IS WHAT WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM THIS REVIEW WILL BE POSED TO DEITY AS PART OF THE PUBLIC MEETING.
SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL HAVE THESE, UM, FOR ACTION AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC, UM, PARTICIPATION AND FURTHER EVALUATE OR IF THIS SUFFICIENTLY, OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY READY TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT? BRIAN? YOU'RE ON MUTE.
YOUR GLOVER HAS A COMMENT, MR. GLOVER.
I'M UH, I'M GONNA VOTE, UH, I, I HEAR WHAT STU IS ASKING FOR.
THINK JERRY HAS ACTUALLY SAID, THEY'RE ALL INCLUDED.
THE ALTERNATIVES ARE INCLUDED.
I THINK HE'S OPEN TO, UH, ACTIONS AND I DON'T WANT US TO, TO, TO BOG DOWN, UH, THIS PROCESS TO DELAY IT ANY, ANY LONGER THAN WE HAVE TO.
I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE COULD ACTUALLY GET ALTERNATIVES AND ALTERNATIVES AND ALTERNATIVES ALL THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT HE HAS TO LOOK AT.
AND TIME IS, IS REALLY OF THE ESSENCE RIGHT NOW TO GET SOMETHING CONCRETE.
AND HE'S SAID FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THAT HE WILL INCORPORATE WHAT HAS BEEN S UH, THE ALTERNATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AT THIS TIME.
SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR THIS, UH, AMENDMENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE? IT APPEARS THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CALL THE ROLL ON THIS ONE.
WE WILL BEGIN WITH MR. RODMAN SINCE YOU MADE THE MOTION TO INCLUDE
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THOSE THREE SPECIFIC ITEMS. MR.MR. MCKELLEN, MR. SOMERVILLE, MR. COVERT I, MR. DAWSON.
NOW THE CHAIR WILL SAY, YES, IT IS EIGHT.
NO, THE AMENDMENT CARRIES WE'RE.
NOW BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION WITH TWO AMENDMENTS NOW TO INCLUDE THE COMMENTS FROM THE SENATOR.
AND NOW THE THREE ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY COUNCILMAN RODMAN.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CALL THE QUESTION.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO BE APPROVING IS THE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S IN THE, THAT'S IN THE THAT'S IN THE SCOPE OF WORK AND TASK.
UM, TALKING ABOUT THE 50, 50 SPLIT, THAT'S ALL SPELLED OUT IN THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.
IT'S A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT.
MR. MCKELLEN, YOU HAVE A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE APPROVING AGREED TO BY THE TOWN.
SO THEY HAVEN'T SIGNED ON YET.
UM, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S BEEN SIGNED OFF AS YET.
I THINK THEY WERE WAITING FOR US TO TAKE THE FIRST ACTION.
UM, SINCE I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE UNANIMOUS, UM, UNLESS I'M WRONG.
LOOK, WILL THIS BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION? OKAY.
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.
I WILL CALL THE QUESTION WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NO OBJECTIONS ITEM NUMBER 19 HAS NOW BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
UH, OUR FINAL ITEM BEFORE THE SECOND CITIZEN COMMENTS WILL BE ITEM NOW.
NUMBER 20 CONSIDERATION OF THE REEMPLOYMENT OF DAN
MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THEIR APPOINTMENTS PLEASE? SO I HEARD MR.
MR. HARVEY, SEAN MAKES THE SECOND DULY MOTIONED AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION, THEY WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING NO OBJECTIONS? THEY ARE APPROVED? WE ARE NOW AT THE SECOND SET OF CITIZEN COMMENTS.
I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, ANY CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO COMMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UM, WE STILL HAVE THE NUMBER AND THE ACCESS CODE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
DO WE NOT? SARAH? MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? NO OBJECTIONS.
WE WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES OR THE COMMENTS.
WHO IS, WHO WOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON? UM, THERE'S ALREADY SOME NUMBERS ADMITTED TO THE MEETING BEFORE I LOCKED IT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SEE IF ANY OF THOSE.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
WE'LL UM, WE'LL START WITH THEM.
WILL THE PERSON WHOSE, UH, PHONE NUMBER ENDS IN THREE, FOUR, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS?
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I LIVE IN BLOCK THEM.UM, I WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THIS MEETING BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO GET INTO COMMENT ABOUT THE MASK ORDINANCE.
UM, I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TABLED THIS, ESPECIALLY NOW, KNOWING THAT YOU'RE TABLING IT ON THE MATTER DOCTORS AND LAWYERS.
NOW, IF YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO EXPERTS ON THIS MATTER IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS MESS, WHAT WERE YOU BASING ALL OF YOUR DECISIONS OFF OF I'M COMPLETELY BLOWN AWAY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST THIS MAT ORDINANCE HOLD YOU THE MAJORITY, NOT ALL OF YOU, BUT A GOOD MAJORITY OF YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE MENTAL OR THE PHYSICAL HEALTH OF OUR CHILDREN, THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY, WE HOLD YOU 100% ACCOUNTABLE.
WE HOLD YOU 100% ACCOUNTABLE FOR DIVIDING THE COMMUNITY, THE AMOUNT OF HATE AND THE AMOUNT OF THREAT BETWEEN US IN THE COMMUNITY.
OUR, OUR, OUR, UH, UM, OUR FIGHT IS NOT WITH EACH OTHER.
AND TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE NOT EVEN SPOKEN TO THE EXPERT, UH, DOCTORS OR LAWYERS IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS IS EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING AND DISHEARTENING.
WHAT WERE YOU BASING? ALL OF, ALL OF THESE ACTIONS ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS ON THE MATTER.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME, BUT I WILL LET YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT BY FAR GONE WITH THIS AT ALL.
WE WILL HEAD DOWN BARREL THROUGH.
WE WILL HUMBLE OURSELVES AND LISTEN TO EVERYBODY'S OPINION ON THE MATTER.
AND I DO NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE DISCREDITED, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH.
WE MAY NOT BE DOCTORS OR LAWYERS, BUT WE ARE PARENTS.
AND ALL YOU HAVE DONE IS WASTED OURS.
THE PERSON'S WHOSE PHONE NUMBER? HELLO.
I'M LISA LAKING FROM HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
UM, GUYS, AS WE HAVE BEEN NAVIGATING THIS MASS MANDATE BUSINESS, A LOT OF, UH, CITIZENS WHO DON'T SUPPORT IT HAVE BEEN BEING KIND OF COMPLACENT BECAUSE, WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY BEING ENFORCED SO I CAN JUST GO ALONG TO GET ALONG AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, JUST BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE NOT TICKETING PEOPLE, IT IS BEING ENFORCED.
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO IS BEING ENFORCED ON MY DAUGHTER AT SCHOOL EVERY DAY, THE TEACHERS ENFORCE IT ON HER EMPLOYEES AT VARIOUS BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
THEIR EMPLOYERS ARE ENFORCING ON THEM FOR FEAR OF BEING SHUT DOWN AND FURTHER BEING HARMED BY WHAT'S ALREADY DEVASTATED THEM FROM THIS RIDICULOUS HYSTERIA.
IN OTHER WAYS, YOU GUYS HAVE LITERALLY WEAPONIZED CITIZENRY AGAINST EACH OTHER.
AND AS ADULTS, WE CAN MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS.
I AM DONE WITH THIS WITH MY CHILDREN, THE HARM THAT YOU PEOPLE ARE CAUSING, BECAUSE IT'S YOUR MANDATE AND YOUR RULES THAT ARE CAUSING PEOPLE TO THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO ENFORCE THIS.
IF YOUR MANDATES, THAT ARE CAUSING TEACHERS TO THINK THAT THEY NEED TO MASK CHILDREN AND BUSINESSES, TO THINK THAT THEY NEED TO MASK THEIR EMPLOYEES, THOSE ARE IRREPARABLE, AND WE ARE, WE ARE DONE WITH IT.
IT IS SO DISTURBING THAT WE HAVE FOUND OURSELVES AT A PLACE WHERE WE ARE TREATING OUR CHILDREN AS THOUGH THEY ARE A CONTAGION JUST BY LIVING THEIR LIVES.
WE'RE LITERALLY MAKING THEM BELIEVE THAT BY BEING KIDS, PLAYING, BREATHING, AND LIVING THEIR LIFE BARE FACE, THAT THEY ARE A THREAT TO OTHER PEOPLE AND THAT THEY ARE SOMEHOW RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEALTH OF ADULTS THAT IS EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE.
IT IS A BURDEN THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM OUR CHILDREN IMMEDIATELY.
THE SCIENCE IS 100% BEHIND THE FACT THAT CHILDREN ARE AT VIRTUALLY NO RISK OF BEING SERIOUSLY ILL WITH THIS.
AND THEY ARE VIRTUALLY NO RISK OF BEING ANY TYPE OF SPIDER.
THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEMS ARE SO AWESOME AND THEIR VIRAL LOAD IS SO LOW THAT THEY ARE NOT FREDERICK.
THEY ARE NOT CARRIERS, AND YOU ARE DAMAGING THEM.
YOU'RE DESTROYING THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEM BY ALLOWING THEM TO WEAR MASKS ALL DAY, THAT ACCUMULATE MOISTURE AND THAT AREA.
AND THEN THEY REBREATHE THAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO TITLE ON THEIR FACES.
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DIAPER, RASH.THEY ARE GETTING FUNGAL INFECTIONS IN THEIR MOUTH.
THEY ARE GETTING RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE NORMAL ORAL AND NASAL BACTERIA, THAT ACCUMULATE AN OVERGROW, AND THEN YOU REBREATHE IT.
AND YOU END UP WITH BACTERIAL PNEUMONIA, WHICH IS DEADLY.
YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO STOP THIS.
I, AGAIN, THE ADULTS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE ADVOCATES FOR OUR CHILDREN.
YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ACTIONS YOU YOU'RE TAKEN AND THE DIRTY WAY THAT YOU HAVE DONE IT BY SUBVERTING YOUR NORMAL SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES.
THESE ARE THE DAYS OF JUST EMAILING AND HOPING YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION ARE OVER, UH, WHO WOULD BE NEXT? YES, YOU DID.
YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES.
ANYBODY ELSE? NUMBER ENDING IN 83 AND THEN ANOTHER ONE ENDING IN NINE THREE.
WELL, THE PERSON WHOSE PHONE NUMBER ENGINE EIGHT, THREE, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF BY NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? MY NAME IS CHERRY NORRIS.
I CANNOT EMPHASIZE MORE THAN WHAT I'VE JUST HEARD FROM CITIZEN DANNY AND CITIZEN.
WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A 99% RECOVERY RATE FOR THIS VIRUS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SIX ELDERLY DEATHS ON HILTON HEAD.
WE KNOW THAT THE EFFECTIVENESS OF MASS HAS INCREASED THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT IT IS.
THIS IS TOTALLY ABOUT POLITICS, POWER, EVIL VERSUS GOOD.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
OR EITHER JUST BLIND, STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE.
YOU HAVE FACTS, BUT YOUR FACTS ARE A DIFFERENT NARRATIVE THAN OUR FACTS.
AND WE HAVE DONE OUR HOMEWORK AND WE ARE DONE WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
AND LISA WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THAT, THAT IS EVEN THOUGH, AND PROBABLY THE POLICE WILL BE NOTIFIED NOW THAT WE'RE POINTING IT OUT, THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN TICKETED AND TAKEN TO JAIL YET, BUT BUSINESSES ARE ENFORCING THIS.
IT IS TURNING CITIZENS AGAINST CITIZENS.
THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON THE PLANET TO LIVE.
WE ARE SO BLESSED WITH GORGEOUS BEACHES, BEAUTIFUL GOLF COURSES, SAFE, A TOURIST DESTINATION, A NICE FRIENDLY PLACE THAT HAS TURNED SO DIVISIVE THAT WE CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT EACH OTHER IN THE EYE.
WE'RE GETTING SO SICK WITH THESE DIAPERS ON OUR FACES AND 90 DEGREE.
WEATHER'S OLD PEOPLE WEARING A MASK, YOUNG CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN.
I JUST WANT TO CRY EVERY TIME.
WHEN I SEE SOMEONE IN THE BEACH WITH THEIR BIKINI ON AND A MASK POINT WE'RE DONE, WE'RE DONE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT, SARAH, WHO IS NEXT? WELL, THE PERSON WHO HAS THEIR PHONE NUMBER ENDING IN NINE THREE, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
UH, WELL THE PERSON WHO'S PHONE NUMBER ENDS IN FOUR NINE, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES, I GUESS THEY HUNG UP.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SARAH? YES, SIR.
THERE WAS A COMMENT FROM JESSE WHITE, A LETTER FOR YOU TO READ.
AND THAT'S THE LAST COMMENT THAT WE HAVE.
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UH, THIS SAYS YOU'VE HEARD COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS.THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON BEHALF OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE ON CONSENT AND CHINA CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM 11, THE TWO 78 INDEPENDENT REVIEW.
THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS PROJECT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING ON OCTOBER 19TH IN PARTICULAR, SENATOR TOM DAVIS BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE'S ATTENTION, SEVERAL KEY ELEMENTS OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WERE EITHER MISSING OR NOT SET FORTH IN SUFFICIENT DETAIL.
FOR INSTANCE, THE SCOPE OF WORK WOULD EXPLICITLY REFERENCE THE STONY COMMUNITY, THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW PROCESS, AND THAT THE CONSULTANT WOULD EVALUATE WAYS IN WHICH THE IMPACTS TO THEIR COMMUNITY CAN BE MITIGATED IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
IN ADDITION, THERE NEEDS TO BE CLEARLY DEFINED AND REPRESENTATIVE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED TO ENSURE FULL AND FAIR COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION IN THE PROCESS AND ESTABLISHED AVENUES BETWEEN CONCERNED CITIZENS, LOCAL LEADERS, AND S C D O T OFFICIALS.
WE AGREE WITH THE SENATOR DAVIS'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE AND CLARIFY THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE TWO 78 QUARTER PROJECT IS A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INVESTMENT, AND IT IS CRITICAL THAT A HIGH QUALITY REVIEW TO BE INITIATED, TO PRODUCE THE HIGHEST QUALITY RESULTS, INCLUDING RETENTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD VALUES, CONNECTIVITY, AND SENSE OF PLACE.
WE APPRECIATE THE COUNTY STAFF WILLINGNESS TO INCORPORATE THESE CLARIFYING CHANGES TO THE SCOPE OF WORK, AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL'S DUE DILIGENCE IN ENSURING THAT THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW FULFILLS ITS INTENDED OBJECTIVE IN REPRESENTING AND REFLECTING THE INPUT OF THE COMMUNITIES WHO WILL BE MOST IMPACTED BY THE TWO 78 CORRIDOR CORRIDOR PROJECT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, RESPECTFULLY JESSE WHITE, AND THAT WILL END OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, AND SINCE NO OTHER INFORMATION OR ANYTHING COME BEFORE COUNCIL, MR. RODMAN.
YEAH, JUST ONE CLOSING COMMENT ON TWO 78, IF I MIGHT, UM, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS AND FINALIZE THIS WITH THE TOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE AND THAT DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT TODAY, CAUSE IT WOULD DRAG IT OUT.
BUT, UM, UH, IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO RATHER THAN DO A 50 50 THAT IT ALL GETS CHARGED TO THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PROJECT.
SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AS WE'RE FINALIZING THINGS WITH THE TOWN.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING I WOULD SAY IS, YOU KNOW, IT MAY TAKE WHO KNOWS TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO GET ALL THE PAPERWORK SIGNED AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE CLEARLY HAVE A COUNCIL APPROVAL, UH, FOR UP TO 40,000.
WE HAVE A, A SELECTED VENDOR AND I THINK WE'RE DOING IT AS A RFQ.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY ON TIME AND MATERIAL ANYWAY, NOT A FIXED COST.
SO I THINK THE STAFF ACTUALLY HAS THE AUTHORIZATION TO PROCEED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE NOTICE TO PROCEED AND GET THIS THING THING STARTED BECAUSE TIME IS SOMEWHAT OF THE ESSENCE TO GET ALL OF THIS DONE SO THAT WE'RE NOT COMPLETING IT AFTER THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
SO SOMEBODY ELSE CAN DECIDE IF I'M CORRECT, BUT I ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THE STAFF COULD PROCEED WITH THE NOTICE TO PROCEED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN GLOVER? YES.
UM, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE THE MASKS, UM, WORKSHOP, UH, COULD YOU INCLUDE IN THERE, UM, PEDIATRICIANS, UM, TO SPEAK ON, ON THEIR CARE, UH, FOR FAULTS FOR CHILDREN, UM, AND WHAT THEY WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL TRY AND GET A CROSS SECTION THAT WILL ENCOMPASS ALL PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS SEEING NONE? IT IS NOW 8:09 PM.
WE'RE ONLY NINE MINUTES AFTER WE NORMALLY LEAVE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND EVERYONE GOODNIGHT, EVERYBODY.