Oct 23, 2020 Northern Regional Plan Implementation Committee

YOU CAN GET THERE THROUGH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH IT TO PUT IT IN A MORE, UM, EASIER ASSESSABLE LOCATION ON THE WEBSITE.

IT'D BE NICE IF A MUNICIPALITIES COULD GET THAT TOO, SO THEY COULD PUT IT ON THEIR, THANK YOU, MIKE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING I HAD, I HAD ONE QUESTION AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT, UH, THE LOSS OF STYLE AND REALIGNMENT, UM, IS THAT PART OF WHAT YOU DESCRIBED? YES, IT, WE HAD TWO SOLICITATIONS.

ONE WAS THE MAJOR, UM, HIGHWAY 21 AND EIGHT OH TWO IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN THE SECOND WAS THE SMALLER SIDE ROADS, SO THAT ONE'S FITTING INTO THE SIDE ROADS, UM, WORK.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MIKE CORRECT ME THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THAT.

AND BACK IN THE DAY.

UH, WELL, NOT QUITE.

SO WE ARE ACTUALLY, UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAD SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING

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ALREADY UNDERWAY.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THIS UNDER CONTRACT, UM, WITH THE CONSULTANTS OF, LET ME BACK UP ON WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU.

UM, THIS WOULD NORMALLY BE UNDER THAT SMALL CONTRACT, BUT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WORK LIKE YOU MENTIONED, UH, MAYOR.

UM, SO THIS ONE IS NOT INCLUDED.

WE HAVE OUTSIDE CONSULTANT ALREADY STARTED.

AND SO THERE HAS BEEN AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT THE CITY HAS WITH THE DEVELOPER.

UH, WE FRED TRASH FOR THE FIRST PORTION, UM, OF THE, OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

WE'VE STILL GOT TO IDENTIFY, UM, THE SECOND PORTION AS FAR AS THE LAYOUT BEHIND TACO BELL.

UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH THE ENGINEER, AS WELL AS BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE PLATTE AND TRANSFER PROPERTY FROM THE DEVELOPER ON THAT PROPERTY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE PROPER AMOUNT OF RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE, UM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT LOCKED IN TO 50 FEET.

AND THEN BASED OFF PHIL AND OTHER, UM, ENGINEERING ITEMS THAT, THAT WE NEED 60 FEET.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOME PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND COORDINATING WITH, UH, WITH, UH, MR. TRASK.

SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED, THEN WE'LL FINALIZE THAT THE D TRANSFER THAT FOR THAT.

BECAUSE THAT ONE'S BEEN IN THE QUEUE A LONG TIME AND IT SEEMS TO BE A VERY, A RELATIVELY SIMPLE ONE.

YES.

IT'S CURIOUS.

IT'S SIMPLE ON THE, ON THE DEVELOPER SIDE AND THEN BEHIND THE TACO BELL, IT GETS INTO SOME MAJOR WETLANDS.

SO, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT ONE.

I EXPECTED MORE QUESTIONS.

NO, I ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION AND IT MAY BE SOMEWHERE I'VE WHERE I CAN FIND IT WITHOUT YOUR REPEATING THEM.

BUT YOU LISTED A NUMBER OF THE PATHWAY PROJECTS, LIKE YOU SAID, WAS IT, WAS IT EIGHT ON THE PATHWAY? SO THERE WAS 24 PATHWAY PROJECTS THAT WERE, UM, APPROVED IN THE REFERENDUM OUT OF THOSE 24.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED 14.

OUR COUNCIL HAS IDENTIFIED 14 AS PRIORITIES.

SO THOSE ARE THE FIRST 14 THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.

UM, IT IS ON THE, ON THE ENGINEER, ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, UNDER ENGINEERING AND TRANSPORTATION, UM, LINK, HOWEVER IT'S ALSO LISTED AND MORE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED ON THAT BEAVER COUNTY DOCTOR.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, NEXT ITEM.

THANKS, JEFF.

UM, I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME OTHER, UH, UH, QUESTIONS, BUT IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS DONE WITH THAT, WE COULD MOVE TO NUMBER NINE, THE LADIES ISLAND VILLAGE CENTER MASTER PLAN.

[9. LADY’S ISLAND VILLAGE CENTER MASTER PLAN]

UM, ALLEN IS NOT HERE, I GUESS.

UM, SO I GUESS I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

IT'S, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, W WE HAVE A TASK FORCE, THE LADY'S ISLAND VILLAGE CENTER TASK FORCE, AND, UH, WE HAD OUR SECOND MEETING YESTERDAY, SO WE'RE GETTING OUR FEET ON THE GROUND.

WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE STARTING TO, UH, MAKE SOME PROGRESS, UH, IN A DIRECTION, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, AND WE HAD PAUL SUMMERVILLE, UH, WITH US YESTERDAY, ALONG WITH, UH, ROB MERCHANT AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE.

UH, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT MOST OF THE, UH, HOUR AND A HALF HOUR AND A QUARTER OF THAT MEETING WAS CENTERED AROUND, UM, THE, UH, UH, ISSUES THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.

JARED.

AND I THINK THAT, UH, IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE THAT, UH, WE GET YOU, UH, TIED IN WITH THE TASK FORCE.

SO, UH, WE, OUR NATIONAL MEETING IS IN TWO WEEKS AND I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO, UH, SET UP A MEETING WITH YOU SEPARATE FROM THAT, UH, TO TRY AND, UH, GET UP TO SPEED AND LET YOU KNOW SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT, UH, UH, THE TWO WON'T WORK, UH, AT WORK, IF THEY'RE SEPARATE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER, UH, IN ORDER TO COME UP WITH, UH, A PLAN THAT ACTUALLY WORKS.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH ELSE TO SAY ABOUT THAT, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A QUESTION, MIKE, UM, WITH WHITE HALL UP IN THE AIR, NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE TWO, TWO LAWSUITS PENDING, UM, IN TERMS OF THE CITY'S CIVIC MASTER, UM, WHITE HALL AS AN EXTENSION OF DOWNTOWN BUFORD HAS ALWAYS BEEN, UH, I THINK AN INCREMENTAL PART OF,

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OF, OF, OF, OF, UH, OF A MASTER PLAN FOR VILLAGE CENTER.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, AND I CAN'T FIND FROM I DON'T AN AUTHORITATIVE SOURCE, BUT I'M TOLD THAT THERE'S SOMEONE IN BUFORD COUNTY, MAYBE ERIC CAN ANSWER, THIS IS NOW NEGOTIATING NEGOTIATING TO PURCHASE FOR THE COUNTY TO PURCHASE MORE OF THE WHITE HOUSE PROPERTY.

AND THE RUMOR HAS, IS THAT THE CORNER WILL BE TURNED INTO PARKING LOT FOR BOATS, BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S THEIR POCKET PARKING IS LIMITED.

AND IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE PART OF THE BANK THERE, UH, YOU'D HAVE PARKING ALL UP AND DOWN 21 AND I'M PARTICULARLY MERIDIAN ROAD, BUT A PARKING LOT, THERE WOULD CERTAINLY NOT FIT THE CONCEPT OF, OF, OF CREATING A VILLAGE CENTER, UM, AND AN EXTENSION OF, OF DOWNTOWN.

AND ERIC, CAN YOU, CAN YOU ADDRESS WHETHER THE COUNTY IS, OR IS NOT, UH, LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CITY AGREED TO, UH, TO MANAGE, UH, THE COUNTY'S 10 ACRE PARK, BUT IF IT BECOMES A 28 ACRE PARK, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR AGREEMENT IS.

I, AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT MARIN, FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS NO NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON AT THIS TIME AND NO NEGOTIATIONS WILL OCCUR WITHOUT THE CITY OF BUFORD, UH, INVOLVEMENT IN THAT.

UM, WHAT HAS BEEN, UH, PRESENTED TO ME AT THIS POINT AND SOME JUST, UH, CITIZENS MEANINGS AND COMMENTS IS THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU DESCRIBE.

UH, I AM NOT FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT IN FAVOR OF A PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE I DO THINK IT WOULD CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR, UH, YOUR MASTER PLAN CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW, THINGS ARE JUST IN THE PLUM PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION STAGES.

PEOPLE ARE JUST FLOATING IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO MOVE THAT ALONG TO TRY TO SOLVE THE ISSUES.

THERE, THERE HAS BEEN SOME MENTION OF ADDING ADDITIONAL LAND TO THE PARK, UH, THAT THERE WOULD BE A POSSIBILITY OF SOME SORT OF MULTI-USE PARKING AREA, UH, INCLUDED WITH REGARDS TO THAT THAT WOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR OVERFLOW, UH, TRAFFIC FROM THE BOAT LANDING, UH, BUT TO THE IDEAS AND CONCEPTS AND DISCUSSIONS AT THIS POINT, WE, WOULDN'T NOT, I, I WOULD NOT AS LONG AS ARE REMAINED IN THE ROLE OF THAT, I MEAN NOW, OR AS PIONEER RECORD, UH, EVER START ANOTHER OFFICIAL NEGOTIATION ON, ON THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT, UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WOULD PROBABLY GO TO JARED AND THAT IS AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T SEE EACH OTHER AND WE DON'T REALLY TALK THE WAY WE NORMALLY DO, WE PICK UP, WE PICK UP THINGS AND SOMEONE SAID YESTERDAY, I WAS, UH, A MERCHANT ACTUALLY ON, ON, ON LADY'S ISLAND THAT THE SCAN TECH PLAN HAD BEEN MODIFIED AND THAT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE HIGH SCHOOL WOULD BE OFF OF MERIDIAN ROAD, WHICH TO ME WOULD REQUIRE A LIGHT THERE AS I BELIEVE WHITEHALL WOULD AS WELL AS IT MAY ALREADY NEED TO BE DONE.

BUT HIS HAS THE IN CONCEPT WITH THE ENGINEERS ABANDONED THE EXISTING LIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, WITH AN ALTERNATIVE BEING THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OFF OF MERIDIAN ROAD.

YEAH, I CAN JUMP IN THERE.

SO YES, UM, THE HOSPITAL REALIGNMENT AS IT'S PRESENTED IN THE STUDY RIGHT NOW, UM, AND WE HAD SOME PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ALREADY.

THERE WAS THREE OPTIONS.

UM, ONE WAS LATER WHERE IT IS THE IN ITS CURRENT FORMAT.

UM, ONE, THE SECOND WAS MOVED TO SUNSET BOULEVARD AND COME THROUGH THE SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, AND THEN THE THIRD WAS COME TO MERIDIAN ROAD, UM, AND HAVE A SIGNAL BAYER AND GET RID OF THE EXISTING ONE WHERE IT IS, UM, DURING THAT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION MEETING, WHICH WAS A YEAR AGO, TWO OTHER OPTIONS WERE IDENTIFIED AS FAR AS COMING OFF OF 800 TO ONE AT RITA BOY AND ONE ACROSS FROM WHAT IS HAZEL FARM.

UM, SO THOSE OPTIONS HAVEN'T BEEN FULLY EXPLORED.

UM, WE JUST HAD THAT COMMENT AND IT KIND OF, UM, HASN'T GONE MUCH FURTHER FROM THERE.

STANTEC IS EVALUATING THAT WE ALSO PROVIDED STANTEC WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT WAS PERFORMED FOR WHITE HALL BOARD WALL OR WHITE, UM, DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND IN THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT, IT SAYS THAT WHEN THAT IS DEVELOPED, THAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE A SIGNAL ON

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THEIR OWN REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO ON THE, ON THE CORRIDOR.

UM, SO WE'RE GETTING STANTEC TO PROCESS ALL THAT INFORMATION TO HELP US IDENTIFY THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION.

WELL, WHILE I CAN IMAGINE THE, UH, REACTION FROM THE PEOPLE ON MERIDIAN ROAD THAT DOES CREATE A CONSIDERABLE PARALLEL POTENTIAL FOR CONSIDERABLE PARALLEL PARALLEL ROAD BEHIND ALL OF THAT, WHICH COULD CONCEIVABLY BRING ACCESS TO THE BUSINESSES ON, ON, ON MOST SOUTH SIDE OF 21, WHICH WOULD TAKE THEM OFF OF THE TRAFFIC.

UM, AND, AND ALSO YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR EARLIER COMMENT, THE COUNTY IS ALSO LOOKING TO, UM, DEPLOY A WORK ON A MASTER PLAN FOR THE BOAT RAMPS, UM, LAB, AND TO LOOK AT IMPROVEMENTS AND PARKING, BE A MAJOR ONE, UM, AT WHAT RAMPS COULD ADDITIONAL PARKING IMPROVEMENTS BE AVAILABLE.

SO ANYWAYS, UM, ALL THIS IS TYING TOGETHER AND I APPRECIATE THAT I'M INVOLVED ON THIS MEETING BECAUSE, AND IN FUTURE MEETINGS MIGHT, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT IS PLAYING OFF OF ONE ANOTHER.

CALMING AND, AND, AND MANAGEMENT.

THE, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS, UH, WHEN YOU'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PURCHASING ADDITIONAL PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY, UH, OR THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT PURCHASING ADDITIONAL PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS A IMPACT ON THE BUYER, RIGHT.

UH, LAWSUIT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY, UH, INVOLVED WITH.

SO, UM, I THINK, UH, I WOULD CERTAINLY, AS, AS SOMEONE THAT'S INVOLVED BOTH WITH THE MPC AND PART OF THE LAWSUIT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THOSE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, SO, UH, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

IF I'M ASKING, I ASK HIM AD I HAVE NOT, STEVEN MURRAY HAS BEEN OUR, OUR, OUR LADY'S ISLAND, UH, BURDEN DOG.

AND, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE READY TO PUT PARAMETERS OR GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES ON WHAT WE REALLY CONSIDER THAT THE VILLAGE CENTER IS THAT BEEN DISCUSSED.

NO, WELL, NO, IT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION.

WE'RE, WE'RE EARLY IN OUR, UH, REVIEW OF THIS THING.

I THINK THAT, UM, UH, MY, MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AND, UH, UH, THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN, UH, IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A 20,000 FOOT VIEW OF EVERYTHING WITH ALL THE ZONING AND THE ROADWAYS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND STANTEC ALSO IS MORE OF A 20,000 FOOT VIEW.

UM, AND MY INTERPRETATION WOULD BE THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IS TAKE A LOOK AT ABOUT A 500 FOOT VIEW, GET MORE GRANULAR, FIGURE OUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON ON THE GROUND.

UH, AND PART OF THE REASON THAT I WAS, UH, TELLING JARED THAT IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE GET TOGETHER, NOT, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE JUST BEEN, UH, WHICH, UH, WE REALLY NEED TO COME UP TO SPEED ON AND, AND, AND WORK IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER, BUT ALSO FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT, UM, UH, THAT THE PARAMETERS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT IN LARGE PART ARE KIND OF DEFINED BY THE ROADWAY SYSTEMS THAT ARE GOING TO BE CREATED, AND THAT HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED STANTEC.

AND THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT SAME TIME.

UH, THEY STARTED TO PUT SOME, SOME BOUNDARIES IF YOU WILL, AROUND THE AREA THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT'S THE, UH, LADIES ISLAND, UH, UM, VILLAGE, UH, CORRIDOR AS SUCH, BUT, UH, THE OTHER ZONINGS WILL EMANATE FROM THAT.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID, WE FOUND A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT OTHER POSSIBILITIES AND THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THAT ON THE INTERACTIVE, NOT JUST WITH THE ROADWAY SYSTEM, BUT ALSO WITH THE PATHWAYS.

YEAH, THE RECENT REVISION I ASKED THAT, AND MIKE CAN CHIME IN, IS THAT IT'S VERY, LONG-TERM BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS, BUT, UH, I THINK IN COUNCIL, WE'VE THROWN AROUND THE IDEA OF, AND HAVING ANNEX THE DONUT HOLES, AND WE WILL CONTINUE ON 21 PRETTY MUCH EXCLUSIVELY ON 21.

W WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A VISION, UH, LET ME SAY I HAVE A VISION.

AND I THINK COUNCIL IS PRETTY MUCH IN LINE THAT IT'S, IT'S A SETUP FOR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO BOUNDARY STREET WITH THE INTERCONNECTIVITY AND, UM, TRAFFIC

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AND AS SOON AS WE GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS SHOULD BE LIKE, I THINK IT WOULD BE OUR HARM MEDICATION, THOUGH.

I'M NOT SURE WE WOULD SPEND THE MONEY UP FRONT TO DO ALL THE PLANNING, BUT TO LOOK AT HOW THAT, HOW THAT WOULD COME TOGETHER SO THAT WE, WE SORT OF SEE BOUNDARIES STRAIGHT, UH, AS, AS A DOWNTOWN BURDEN, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD AND THE VILLAGE AS THE DOWNTOWN, UH, UH, DOWNTOWN LADY'S ISLAND, PROVIDING MANY OF THE SERVICES THAT PEOPLE WOULD NEED.

SO THEY'RE NOT BRIDGE DEPENDENT, UM, SO THAT THEY COULD MAKE, COULD SERVE THE PEOPLE WITHOUT, WITHOUT GETTING ON 21 OR WITHOUT, WITHOUT CROSSING A BRIDGE TO DEAL WITH MITIGATING SOME OF THE CROSSING THROUGH THE CITY OR THROUGH PORT ROYAL TO GET SOMEPLACE ELSE WHERE YOU COULD JUST AS WELL GET IT ON LADY'S ISLAND.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION AND, AND MAYOR AND, UH, AND MY, UM, AS FAR AS OUR PLAN, SO STINK TAKES REVISING.

UM, THEY'RE TAKING THE KNOWN IMPROVEMENTS FOR TRAFFIC COUNT AND TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, BUT THEY'RE REALLY HONING IN ON, ON THE ROAD COMPONENT.

UM, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE 500 FOOT GRANULARITY TO OUR APPROACH THAT THEN WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THE REST OF THE FOREST THAT FIT TOGETHER AND MAINLY, UH, AND MAY I REALLY APPLAUD YOU ON THE VISION FOR YOU AND COUNCIL, BUT MAINLY, UM, THE CURRENT PRO PROJECT WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE CORRIDOR, UM, VERSUS THE ACCESS ROADS.

BUT ONCE WE HAD THE CORRIDOR ESTABLISHED AND CREATED, THEN I THINK A PHASE TWO FOR ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE IS TO START LOOKING AT THOSE ACCESS ELEMENTS, UM, TO GET EVERYBODY TO A SIGNAL OFF THE ROADWAY, WHICH IS WHAT, WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AS OUR SECOND PHASE OF BOUNDARY STREET PROPERTIES FOR OUR, OUR PARALLEL ROAD THERE TO THE NORTH.

I'M SORRY, GUYS.

I MAY BE DUMPING A LOT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS MY NEXT TO THE LAST MEETING AND THAT'LL BE LEAVING IT OUT FOR LATER.

THAT MIGHT MAKE FEE WHOEVER'S MY SUCCESSOR, BUT A LOT OF STUFF IN HERE, AND THIS IS A FORMAT TO DOWNLOAD IT SO THAT I GIVE THE BENEFIT OF MY THOUGHTS TO WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON NOW WITH THE, FOR 12 YEARS, YOUR FUNNELS STILL WORK, STILL WORK, OR LIKE LAST NIGHT, WE CAN ALWAYS PUT IT ON MUTE.

TO THE, UH, BUFORD COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

MAYOR YOUR COMMENTS ARE, I THINK, RIGHT, RIGHT ON DRAG WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND WE'VE HAD IN OUR LAST MEETING, UH, WE CERTAINLY HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION RELATED TO EXACTLY WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TOO.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE, A LOT OF THAT HINGES ON, UM, THAT DISCUSSION WITH, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND, AND BETTER DEFINING EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH A LARGER PICTURE SENSE, BUT, UH, I WOULD TOTALLY AGREE WITH, UH, WITH YOUR PLAN.

THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE, WE HAVE JARED WHO I THINK UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THANK YOU.

UM, SO IF WE'RE DONE WITH A DISCUSSION ON THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE

[10. BEAUFORT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN – UPCOMING WORKSHOPS]

UH, RIGHT.

YES.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE BARRY A QUICK UPDATE AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A SCREEN HERE.

UM, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, UM, WE MADE A, UM, DESIGN WORKSHOP WHO IS OUR CONSULTANTS FOR THE PLAN, MADE A PRESENTATION TO COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, EARLIER THIS MONTH.

AND BASICALLY COUNCIL IS GIVING US A DIRECTION THAT THEY STILL WANT TO FOLLOW.

OUR ORIGINAL TIMELINE IS TO CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN EARNEST IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL ROUND OF PUBLIC WORKSHOPS IN MARCH AND THEN IMMEDIATELY THE COVID CRISIS HIT US.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY CHALLENGED SINCE THEN, UM, TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC.

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UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT IS HOW CAN WE HAVE IN-PERSON ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE MEANINGFUL ENGAGEMENT IN, IN, IN BRINGING THE PUBLIC INTO THE PROCESS AND WHAT WE'VE DECIDED ON OUR THREE OPEN HOUSE STYLE WORKSHOPS.

UM, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, GATHERING LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN, UH, IN THE SPACE.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS A FORMAT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DROP BY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF FOUR AND 8:00 PM, UM, WE'LL HAVE MASKS, WE'LL HAVE SOCIAL DISTANCING, BUT THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN TO DATE, SOME OF OUR GENERAL, UM, UH, GOALS AND POLICIES THAT WE'RE WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR, FOR DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE PLAN.

AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A MAPPING EXERCISE.

UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE, THAT WAS MADE BACK IN MO UH, I THINK THIS WAS FEBRUARY WHEN THEY, UM, OUR CONSULTANTS PRESENTED TO THE NORTHERN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE WAS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE REACHED OUT TO OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES.

SO, UM, I HAVE ON THE SCREEN ARE THREE WORKSHOPS, UM, TUESDAY, AND WE ARE ALSO LIMITED WHERE WE COULD HAVE THE WORKSHOPS.

I THINK THAT EVEN NORMALLY WE WOULD HAVE IT IN ONE OF THE SCHOOLS, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SET OF ISSUES AND IN HAVING THEIR HYBRIDS, UH, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL IN SESSION.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TUESDAY, OCTOBER 27TH, UH, BURTON WELLS RECREATION CENTER IN THE SENIOR CENTER.

UM, PEOPLE CAN DROP BY FROM FOUR TO 8:00 PM, WEDNESDAY, WE'LL BE SOUTH OF ABROAD AT THE BUCK WATER RECREATION CENTER, FOUR TO 8:00 PM.

AND THEN THURSDAY, WE HAVE, WE'LL BE AT, FOR HALL AT PENN CENTER ON ST.

HELENA ISLAND FROM FOUR TO EIGHT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS ANY OF YOU CAN HELP SPREAD THE WORDS, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE WHO COULD MAKE IT TO THESE MEETINGS AS POSSIBLE.

AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE A VIRTUAL COMPONENT.

SO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T MAKE THE MEETINGS OR DON'T WANT TO DON'T FEEL THAT THEY WANT TO, TO EXPOSE THEMSELVES AND, AND BE OUT THERE.

UM, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE SURVEYS AND, AND PROVIDE INFORMATION ONLINE AND, AND HOPEFULLY GET THE SAME EXPERIENCE AS THEY WOULD HAVE IN PERSON.

BUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

AND I, YOU KNOW, ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, AND ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU CAN HELP SPREAD THE WORD THAT WE HAVE THESE WORKSHOPS YEAH.

NEXT WEEK.

WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ROB, TO EXPLAIN AND UNDERSTAND THAT THIS LAST SERIES OF PUBLIC MEETINGS IS THE, OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PRIOR SURVEYS, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, WHAT WE HAVE ACCUMULATED AND HOW TO GET SOME FURTHER DELINEATION AND PRIORITIZATION AS SOME VERY CRITICAL ISSUES.

SO WE'RE THINKING, WELL, I'VE ALREADY BEEN TO A SURVEY OR TWO IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO PARTICIPATE.

I THINK ARE MISTAKEN IN THAT THEY CAN HELP IT MOVE IT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND THE MORE PUBLIC INPUT AND DELINEATION THAT WE GET, THE BETTER OUTPUT AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AND EVENTUALLY GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE MUNICIPALITIES.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS A PROGRESSIVE SERIES OF MEETINGS THAT WILL FURTHER ALLOW US TO LINEATE THE PRIORITIES AND TENSIONS, WHAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE

[11. PRIORITIZED LIST OF ACTION ITEMS FOR THE NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY REGIONAL PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS IN 2020 – 2021]

ON TO, UH, OUR, UH, PRIORITIZED LISTS THAT WE, UH, HAD PUT TOGETHER.

UM, PROBABLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S A PART OF THE APP, BUT NOT REALLY A PART OF THAT, UH, LAST MONTH.

UM, UH, STEVEN HAD A, UH, ASSET QUESTION, UM, TO REAFFIRM, UH, THE APPROACH TO GETTING FUNDING FOR CONSULTANTS FOR THE LADIES, UH, LADIES VILLAGE CENTER.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD AN UPDATE WITH, UH, ANY INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, BRINGING A CONSULTANT ON BOARD WITH THE TASK FORCE OR NOT.

I'LL TAKE THAT AS A NO.

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UH, SO GO AHEAD.

I JUST READ THE ONE THAT, SO CAN YOU ADD, CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME WAS ROBIN I HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT, YEAH.

I, UH, AS, AS USUAL EACH MEETING, UH, STEVEN, WHEN HE'S, UH, UH, WHEN HE'S AVAILABLE ON BOARD, HE BRINGS UP THE QUESTION ABOUT, UH, FUNDING FOR A CONSULTANT, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LADY'S ISLAND, UH, VILLAGE CENTER, UM, PLAN.

AND, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMEONE THAT WOULD BE WORKING WITH, AND IN PARALLEL TO THE TASK FORCE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT, UH, FUNDING FOR THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE.

AND THE QUESTION WAS, UH, IS ANYBODY STILL WORKING WITH THAT, UH, POTENTIAL FUNDING OR, AND, UH, DO WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH IT? YEAH.

THE QUICK ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, WE ARE WORKING WITH, UH, WITH, UH, THE CITY THIS WEEK.

UM, AND, UH, WE ARE GOING TO WHAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE TO, UH, OUR COUNCIL LIAISON AND CHAIRMAN OF NATURAL RESOURCES IS THAT WE WORK WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP A SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT POTENTIALLY PUT OUT AN RFQ.

SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SOLICIT, UH, B UH, TO SEE WHAT THE COST AMOUNT WILL BE, AND THEN SEE ABOUT FUNDING THAT WITH THE NEXT ROUND OF BUDGET, UH, COMING UP IN JUNE.

SO YOU WOULDN'T SEE ANY WORK ACTUALLY BEGAN UNTIL AFTER JUNE OF 2021.

UH, BUT WE COULD POTENTIALLY WORK WITH THE CITY TO BUDGET THE FUNDS FOR THAT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

I JUST DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO EITHER OF OUR CURRENT BUDGET TO DO THAT, BUT WE DO NEED TO PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

AND MAYBE OUR FRIENDS AT PORT ROYAL, SINCE THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BRIDGE GOING INTO THEIR JURISDICTION, MIGHT BE WILLING TO, UH, PARTICIPATE, UH, ON THAT AS WELL.

SO A LITTLE BIT IF IT'S NOT TOO COSTLY, SO WE'LL COORDINATE ALL OF THAT AND CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THAT PATH IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYONE.

THAT SOUNDS, THAT SOUNDS, UH, GOOD WITH ME.

UH, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, A DRAFT RFP THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.

I HAD PUT TOGETHER SOMETIME AGO.

I RE UH, SENT THAT OUT, I THINK, TO BOTH YOU AND TO, UH, UH, ROB, UH, WITH JUST A SLIGHT MODIFICATION TO ADD THE INFORMATION FOR, UM, UH, PORT ROYAL.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT MORE INFORMATION HAT WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH THAT, BUT AT LEAST THAT'S A, THAT'S A DRAFT BASED THAT, UM, MAY BE ABLE TO BE USED.

UH, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

I MAY HAVE SPOKEN A LITTLE BIT.

I HAD FORGOTTEN THERE MOMENTARILY THAT WE'VE HAD THAT, UH, FRAMEWORK LAID OUT.

WE WILL BUILD ON THAT AND WE WILL START THAT PROCESS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING OUT TO GET SOME IDEAS FOR FUNDING AND PUT IN THE SCOPE THAT WE WOULD NOT WANT THE WORK TO BE DONE UNTIL THE SUMMER OF 2021.

AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M AVAILABLE IF, UH, I WROTE A LOT OF THAT.

SO IF, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE ANY, UH, INPUT INTO THAT, UH, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU.

THROUGH ALISON, MYSELF AND ERIC AND ROB WHO ALL ATTENDED SOLO CO MEETING.

SO, UH, THE, UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE PRIORITIZATION AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROBIN AND ERIC, I APPRECIATE THAT UPDATE.

UM, LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

SO THE FIRST THING IS THE REVIEW OF THE NRP IIC MANDATE, AND I BELIEVE, UH, UH, ALICE, YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT POTENTIALLY IN THIS MEETING, ED PAPPAS, AND I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND I'M, UM, I'M SORRY.

WE'RE NOT REALLY, WE CAN DISCUSS IT SOME MORE, BUT I'M NOT PREPARED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BECOMING PART OF SO LOCO, BUT THEN WE ARGUED OUR WAY OUT OF THAT, I THINK.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, NOT AT THIS TIME? I THINK A SOLO CO'S MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, AND THERE'LL BE A FURTHER TO SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION AND OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH SOME OF THEIR MEMBERS ABOUT POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, WE HAVE REPRESENTATION, UH, THE NRA IPC HAS REPRESENTATION OF SOLO K

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SO WE CAN CERTAINLY TELL YOU WHAT'S HOT ON THEIR PLATE AND THEIR ISSUES.

AND I BELIEVE ON SOME OF THE ISSUES LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TASKFORCE, ET CETERA, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS AND UPDATES WITH ERIC.

SO I THINK AS LONG AS WE KEEP A DIALOGUE OPEN, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANY NEED TO ASK ONE OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE OR NOT.

I, YOU KNOW, I'LL LEAVE THAT IN THE HANDS OF THEIR THEY'RE BOARDED THIS WAY, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO REPORT BACK AND FORTH IN A MORE FORMAL MANNER.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SOMETHING IN TERMS OF, OF A DRAFT.

SO WE CAN DO THAT.

I MEAN, WE CAN SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THEIR LATEST DIALOGUE IS.

I THINK THE THING BIG ISSUE ON TUESDAY IS PATHWAYS.

UH, EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WHO ARE GOING TO GIVE THEIR, UH, UPDATE ON THEIR PLANNING FOR PATHWAYS PROJECTS, ET CETERA.

UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, JEREMY, UH, PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, FOR SURE.

SO, MIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHECKS THE BOX FOR THAT ONE, OR IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT ON THE LIST.

UM, IT REALLY DOESN'T CHECK THE BOX, BUT IT'S WHAT ED AND I DISCUSSED AND WHAT WE THINK THE BEST WE, WE STILL THINK WE NEED TO, WE DON'T NEED TO CONSOLIDATE THE TWO GROUPS.

I THINK IT'D BE TOO, UM, TOO CUMBERSOME MAYBE.

YEAH, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I, UM, I THINK THAT THE EARLIER CONVERSATION, NOT SO MUCH TO CONSOLIDATE THE GROUPS AS MUCH AS, UH, PARTICIPATION, UH, IN, UH, EACH OF THE GROUPS.

UH, AND, AND CERTAINLY, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROVIDING THAT.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS, UH, ANY MORE THAT WE WANT TO DO THEN THAT, UH, THIS UPCOMING MEETING, UH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, ATTEND THAT.

SO MAYBE I'LL COORDINATE WITH Y'ALL AND, UH, FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UH, WHAT, WHEN YOU'RE GOING IN THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT THAT'D BE GREAT.

UH, NOW IS THAT, IS THAT A VIRTUAL STILL? OKAY.

YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND, FOR SURE.

UH, THE, UH, LADIES ISLAND PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE, UM, I GUESS NOBODY'S HERE OTHER THAN MYSELF TO, TO COMMENT.

I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT MOST OF THE FOCUS HAS BEEN, UH, REALLY ON, UH, GETTING THE TASK FORCE UP AND RUNNING AND MOVING FORWARD.

AND, UH, UH, AND SO, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF AN UPDATE, UH, I'VE REALLY GOT FOR THAT.

SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX DISCUSSION.

AND JOE WAS GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT, BUT HE'S NOT HERE.

SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT MONTH, UNLESS EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS ANY INFORMATION TO HAVE ON THAT.

UH, THE CITY MANAGER AND I MET WHILE ALL THE MAYORS FROM ALL FOUR, WE DIDN'T HAVE A UMC THERE, BUT, UH, OVER COFFEE LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AND WE ALL WANT TO, TO PRESS FORWARD.

UM, WE'VE HAD BEEN WANTING TO PRESS FORWARD FOR A NOVEMBER, UH, 21 BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A POTENTIAL PENNY SALES TAX BY THE COUNTY.

AND IN NOVEMBER OF 22, UM, WE MET WITH THE, AS I SAY, WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF COUNCIL AND, UM, SOMEONE WHO SIT IN, SAT IN FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR.

AND I THINK IT'S THE WILL OF, UH, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY IT.

SO WE'LL HAVE ALL FOUR MUNICIPALITIES TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, THE PROCESS W WE, WE PASSED RESOLUTIONS, BUT I THINK THE PROCESS WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTY TO START THE BALL.

SINCE IT'S THE COUNTY A REQUIRES THREE READINGS AND B IT HAS TO BE A COUNTY-WIDE REFERENDUM, BUT, UH, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY, HOW MANY YEARS, UM, HILTON HAD HIS ALWAYS BEEN SORT OF AN OBSTACLE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REALLY BELIEVE THEY NEED IT, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'VE NOW COME TO REALIZE THAT IT COULD, COULD PRIME THEIR PUMP AND ALLOW THEM TO GET SOME OF THE THINGS THEY WANT, THAT THEY CAN'T PASS, OR WE'RE NOT PREPARED YET TO PASS IN A REFERENDUM.

SO I THINK, UH, THE CHAIRMAN OF COUNTY COUNCIL SAID THAT THEY, THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING ON

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BUT IF THERE'S ANYONE ON COUNTY COUNCIL WHO WANTS TO CORRECT ME OR JERRY, JERRY, UH, I KNOW THAT, THAT, UH, THAT SAME MORNING THAT WE MET WITH THE CHAIRMAN, THE CHAIRMAN, UM, PORT ROYAL MET WITH THE CHAIRMAN.

I'M NOT SURE YOU WERE PART OF THAT MEETING.

I WAS NOT PART OF THAT, MAN.

I GUESS I'D ASK A MEMBER OF COUNTY COUNCIL.

IS THERE AT LEAST AT LEAST TALK OF NEXT STEPS? YES.

I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.

AND EVERYTHING YOU SAID, I THINK THERE'S A, A WILL TO GO FORWARD.

SO I GUESS WE'LL JUST EQUIP THIS ON THE, UH, KEEP THIS OUT THERE FOR NEXT MONTH FOR AN UPDATE ON THAT, UH, FROM THE COUNTY ON HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, NEXT ITEM ON THE, UH, UH, ISSUES IS THE UNIFORM YARD WASTE POLICY.

UM, AND, UH, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A, UH, A PUBLIC SQUIRTH REPRESENTATIVE WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THE CITY OF BUFORD.

UM, I DID NOT HEAR THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAPPENED OR NOT.

IS ANYBODY AWARE OF THAT? UH, THE CITY, THE CITY HAS PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT IS RATHER RESTRICTIVE ON AS IT RELATES TO OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM.

UM, PRETTY, PRETTY AGGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF PROHIBITING THE DUMPING OF ANYTHING FROM YARD VASE, TO REFRIGERATORS, WASHING MACHINES, MATTRESSES INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM, WHICH WE FOUND TO BE A UNIQUE PROBLEM AS WE'VE BEEN DIGGING AND LOOK LOOKING ON THE MOSCOW YOLKS PROJECT, ALICE MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT CAUSE HE'S BEEN FOLLOWING IT CLOSELY, BUT WE GET, WE GET PASSED AN ORDINANCE, I THINK ON SECONDARY.

THAT'S WITH REFERENCE TO THE, DO THE DRAINAGE CANALS AND SO FORTH.

WE ALREADY PASSED THAT BRIAN IS PUBLIC COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN.

I DON'T KNOW ANY MORE THAN ANY MORE ABOUT THAT, MIKE.

SO, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE IT ON THE, ON THE, OUR LIST.

SO AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE ISSUES, NO, WE MIGHT END UP TAKING, UM, THE CITY OF BUFORD SAYS AN EXAMPLE OF ORDINANCE TO BE USED IN PARTS OF THE COUNTY TOO.

UM, BUT I WOULD LEAVE IT ON THERE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CHAIRMAN LEAVE THAT ON THE LIST.

MAYOR, IF THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT SOMEONE AT THE CITY CAN SEND OVER TO ME, I CAN SEND THAT OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS SLASH WATER IN THE COUNTY FOR THEM TO DAVID YOU'D FILL ON HERE.

WOULD YOU SEND IT OVER TO THEM? YES, SIR.

WILL THE THANK YOU FROM SOMEONE REGARDING THE, UH, THE, UH, STATUS OF THE TURN LANES AT WALGREENS? CAN YOU TELL US WHERE WE STAND ON THAT? YES, I'M SORRY.

I SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED THAT IN THE OVERALL UPDATE, BUT YES, UM, AT WALGREENS HAS BEEN, UH, BLED FOR BID AND CONTRACT AWARDED.

UM, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME FINALIZING SOME RIGHT AWAY, UM, COMPONENTS AND THE HOPE AND EXPECTATION THAT WE CAN GET STARTED, UH, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

UM, AND IT'S SCHEDULED TO BE A FOUR MONTH PROCESS PROJECT.

UM, SO THAT WILL BE A DELIVERY IN THE SPRING, UH, MARCH, APRIL TIMEFRAME.

THANK YOU, WALGREENS ON LADY'S ISLAND, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

PLANS THAT YOU CAN GET OVER TO STANTEC AS THEY'RE UPDATING THE STUDY RIGHT NOW.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, LEGAL, OUTSTANDING LEGAL ISSUES WITH THAT CAROLINE OR HAS THAT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF? THE LEGAL ISSUES ARE, UM, ATTACHED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, BUT THOSE ARE OUTSTANDING LEGAL ISSUES.

AND JARED, JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE YET, BUT, UH, HARRIS TEETER IS KIND OF MOVING FORWARD AGAIN.

AND SO, UH, I KNOW THERE'S TURN LANES AND, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT OUT ONLY, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, THAT MAY BE COMING TOWARDS YOU SOONER AND SOONER.

THE BETTER WORKS WITH US TOO, BECAUSE THAT CAN BE SOMETHING, UH, WHATEVER

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UM, SO THEY CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THE BEST PARTY.

UM, I THINK THERE WAS SOME AGREEMENT THAT WHEN THEY FIRST GOT THEIR APPROVAL, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DUST THAT OFF AND GET IT OVER TO YOU.

AND IN A THING THAT AGREEMENT THAT THEY HAD, UM, IT DEFINITELY IMPROVES IT RIGHT AROUND THEIR AREA THAT MAY NOT BE THE MOST HOLISTIC UPROOT, UH, IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE INTERSECTION.

SO SOMETHING THAT WE, I THINK SHOULD CONSIDER AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OVERALL CORRIDOR.

NOBODY'S CLAIMING THAT I DIDN'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE ABOUT WHO ACTUALLY SAID THAT I HAVE TO CHECK BACK IN MY NOTES, BUT, UH, I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THE LAST MEETING AND, UM, I THINK THERE WAS, UH, SOME CLARIFICATION AND UPDATE THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO WE'LL KEEP THAT ON THE LIST.

I GUESS NEXT ITEM IS THIS REGIONAL STORMWATER COMPLIANCE SUBJECT TECH RESTRICTIONS, AND ERIC, YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK TO THAT.

THANKS FOR UNNECESSARY FOR SUBDIVIDING PROPERTY.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT FORWARD AS A WIDE INITIATIVE, AS A PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OUT OF THE COMP PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WILL BE FINISHED SHORTLY AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

SO YOU ALL CAN SEE ON THAT SHORTLY AFTER THE FIRST .

UH, NEXT ITEM IS BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS.

UH, ROB, YOU KIND OF UPDATED US LAST TIME.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER UPDATES ON THAT? NO, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE MAKING A PRESENTATION TO SO LOCO, UH, NEXT TUESDAY, THE 27TH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND, UM, IN ADDITION, LAPSE IS IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING A CONSULTANT TO DO THE UPDATE OF THEIR LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

AND SO WE WILL BE, UM, COORDINATING CLOSELY WITH THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE BIKE AND PEN PROJECTS GET IN INTO THAT PLAN AS WELL.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS SEEING NONE? UH, THE NEXT ITEM I HAD WAS SOMETHING THAT STEVEN AGAIN HAD BROUGHT UP AND THAT SETS RECYCLING ISSUES AND, UM, UH, WE WERE SEEKING ASSISTANCE FROM THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY ON HERE FOR THAT.

SO, UM, WAS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO THAT? UM, I TALKED TO JULIANA YESTERDAY REGARDING PLASTIC BAGS, NOT RECYCLING, BUT PLASTIC BAGS.

SO I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATE ON THAT, UM, WHERE YOU, SHE AND I TALKED ABOUT NOT TRYING TO, UH, POSSIBLY CHANGE OUR ORDINANCES UNTIL AFTER THE NEW YEAR BECAUSE OF COVID AND OTHER THINGS, BUT SHE'S GATHERING, THEY'RE GATHERING OTHER EXAMPLES OF HOW TO, UH, SOLVE, NOT NECESSARILY SOLVE, BUT HOW TO, HOW TO MAYBE CLEAN UP A FEW THINGS IN OUR ORDINANCES REGARDING THE PLASTIC BAGS, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING PLACES LIKE, UM, THE LARGE, THE LARGE BOX STORES, UH, NOT WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, THEIR EMPLOYEES WILL NOT PUT ITEMS IN BAGS.

YOU BRING FROM HOME, YOU HAVE TO BAG IT YOURSELF, WHICH IS FINE, BUT, UM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE ENCOURAGING THE USE OF THE PLASTIC BAGS VERSUS A REUSABLE BAG.

SO SHE'S GOT SOME IDEAS ON THAT AND SHE'S GETTING SOME DIFFERENT, UM, CHANGES TO ORDINANCES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO INCLUDE UP IN THE CHARLESTON AREA.

THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR ORDINANCES SINCE I'VE IMPLEMENTED THEM TO START OFF WITH.

SO, BUT WE'RE THINKING, UM, JANUARY TIMEFRAME BEFORE WE EVEN TALK ABOUT IT.

UM, IF THAT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT THAT'S NOT RECYCLING.

THAT'S JUST THE PLASTIC BAG SITUATION.

DON'T KNOW, CITY OF VIEW FOR MOST OF THE PLACES I GO, UM, STILL ALLOW YOU TO RECYCLE THEY'LL THEY'LL BAG STUFF INTO WHATEVER YOU BRING IN.

THAT WAS A BIG PART OF THE DISCUSSION LAST MONTH, TOO.

I, I

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SO I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, I THINK HAS BEEN MORE OF AN ISSUE AT THE, UM, LARGE, LARGER RETAIL STORES AND SOME OF THE GROCERY STORES ARE USING PLASTIC BAGS INSTEAD OF PAPER BAGS.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE AS TIME GOES ON.

UH, NEXT ITEM WAS A CONSOLIDATION OF THE REGIONAL VERSUS COMMUNITY CARTS.

UM, AND THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MEETING SET UP BETWEEN THE, UH, UH, COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND CITY MANAGERS.

UH, DID THAT EVER HAPPEN YET? I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE IT HAS NOT.

UM, CAN YOU ALL, UH, JUST BRING ME UP TO SPEED ON THAT SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS AS TO WHAT THE ISSUE WAS THERE.

UM, AS YOU, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE, I'M DRINKING FROM MY, UH, A BIG FIRE HOSE RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF FLOWS.

SO I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO GET, GET ON TOP OF EVERYTHING.

SO ANYWAY, WHAT WAS THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT THIS, THAT THE ADMINISTRATION NEEDED TO MEET WITH THE CITY ON? WELL, GO AHEAD.

YOU'RE ON MUTE MAYOR.

I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS AND THAT IS, IS THERE MERIT SINCE THE COUNTY HAS A PARK'S FEE? UM, WHETHER WE SHOULD LOOK IN ALL OF THE JURISDICTIONS AS TO WHETHER THERE ARE PARKS THAT SERVE A REGIONAL, RATHER THAN A NEIGHBORHOOD, OR SIMPLY UNIQUE TO THE CITY OR MUNICIPALITY OR COUNTY PURPOSE.

IN OTHER WORDS, NOT PARK AT PARKS, BUT SOME OF THE LARGER PARKS AND, AND AS, AS RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS, UM, IS, IS IMPROVING SOME OF THEIR PARKS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE A REGIONAL ASSET AND SHOULD THAT NOT COME UNDER A FUNDING MECHANISM LIKE A PARK, LIKE A PARKS FEE.

UH, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS.

ROB WOULD BE MOST FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND I THINK IT SORT OF FELL APART BECAUSE WE HAD TROUBLE DEFINING WHAT, WHAT WAS REGIONAL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

I THINK YOU DID AT ONE POINT, GOSH, THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN TONY CRYSTAL TELE WAS HERE TO START BUILDING A LIST.

BUT I THINK THE, THE, THE ISSUE WAS THAT, I MEAN, FOR BUFORD'S POINT OF VIEW, EVERY, EVERYBODY HAS A PARK THAT HAS A REGIONAL DRAW.

UM, FROM BUFORD'S POINT OF VIEW, THE WATERFRONT PARK IS, UH, CERTAINLY A REGIONAL ASSET THAT WE SPEND, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MIKE, BUT CLOSE TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR ON MAINTAINING.

AND MIGHT THAT BE BETTER FIT UNDER A SYSTEM OF LARGER, UH, UH, CRYSTAL LAKE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE WHERE THEIR DESTINATION PARKS THAT REALLY ARE, ARE MORE COUNTY WIDE, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAPPEN TO BE WITHIN A MUNICIPALITY.

IS THAT, IS THAT A FAIR, A FAIR STATEMENT? ROBERT BOB ROB.

I THINK THAT'S DAN BRAMPTON.

PERHAPS WE HAVE A DEFINITION THAT WAS DEFINED IN OUR IMPACT FEE STUDY THAT WE'RE JUST DOING AN UPDATE BECAUSE IT IDENTIFIED AND IDENTIFY NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND REGIONAL PARKS AND THE SERVICE EXCITABLE SERVICE LEVELS FOR THAT.

SO WE CAN, UH, COORDINATE A MEETING WITH EVERYONE.

I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WOULD BE A MEETING THAT WOULD BE ALL MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY AND NOT JUST IN THE NORTHERN AREA, OR WOULD YOU PREFER MAYOR, WOULD YOU THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO DO A NORTHERN MEETING AND A SOUTHERN MEETING ON THIS TOPIC? RIGHT.

SINCE, SINCE IT'LL TAKE THE WHOLE COUNTY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COUNTY WIDE ISSUE, JUST MY THOUGHT.

AND WE'LL GET THOSE DEFINITIONS DOWN, BUT WE'LL COORDINATE A MEETING, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, THE NORTHERN MUNICIPALITIES AND THEN ALSO THE SOUTHERN US PROUDLY.

SO WE CAN START DISCUSSING THAT ISSUE.

NOW IT'S GOOD TIMING FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, CURRENT IMPACT, THE UPDATE THAT WE'RE DOING EXACTLY.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE, ERIC, SINCE WE'RE TALKING REGIONAL, NOT, NOT TO HAVE TWO MEETINGS, BUT TO HAVE ONE MEETING

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YEAH, NO, I AGREE WITH THAT.

WE'LL GET THAT COORDINATED.

THE BIG ISSUES IS NOT JUST DEFINING WHAT OUR REGIONAL PARKS, BUT ALSO HAVING EVERYBODY AGREE TO EXACTLY WHAT THE PARTS ARE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CLASSIFY AS REGIONAL PARKS.

SO THAT, SO THAT THERE'S A GOOD UNDERSTANDING, NOT ONLY OF THE DEAF NATION, BUT EXACTLY WHAT PARKS ARE INCLUDED IN THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE DEFINITION, UM, OUTSIDE SIDE HAS BECOME A REGIONAL PARK FOR ANY DOG LOVERS.

SO PEOPLE FROM LADY'S ISLAND ARE THERE EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, IT, AND I WOULD SAY PORT ROYAL HILLS PARK THERE, THE NAVAL HOSPITAL BECAUSE OF THE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE FARMER'S MARKET HAS BECOME A REGIONAL ASSET TOO.

THERE'S A REGIONAL ASPECT.

THAT'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN GRADUALLY PART THAT'S IMPORTANT.

ROYAL WE'LL GET THAT COORDINATED, BILLY YOU'RE ON MUTE.

I UNMUTE, THERE YOU GO.

KEEPS GOING BACK.

UM, IS, IS THE PORT ROYAL STORMWATER SYSTEM, WHICH IS A FABULOUS EDUCATIONAL, UH, RESOURCE, WHICH I WOULD SEE AS HAVING A REGIONAL, A REGIONAL IMPACT TOO.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S WON ALL SORTS OF AWARDS OF HOW YOU CYPRESS WETLANDS IS.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL.

I THINK THAT IS DEFINITELY AN ASSET.

THAT'S A REGIONAL PARK.

I MEAN, IT'S, UM, IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT.

UH, MOVING FORWARD THEN, UH, WE HAD KICKED OFF, UH, THE CONSOLIDATION OF FIRE SERVICES, THE ROAD, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S STILL GOING TO BE, WANT TO BE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD, BUT KEEPING THAT ON THE LIST.

IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK I HAVE THE GREEN, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

UM, AND THEN JOE WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, UTILITY POLLUTION, UH, AND BRING US UP TO SPEED AT THIS MEETING.

HE'S NOT HERE.

UM, IS, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN UPDATE FROM JOE? NO.

SO WE'LL PUT THAT, WE'LL CARRY THAT ON INTO THE NEXT MEETING.

UM, AND THEN, UH, DETERMINATION OF DIRECTION OF GROWTH DEVELOPMENT AND COORDINATION OF THE MASTER PLANS.

AND THAT'S REALLY A COORDINATION ISSUE BETWEEN, UH, UH, ROBIN AND DAVE.

AND I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU GUYS WERE COORDINATING YOUR MASTER PLANS, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS AND, UH, AND, UH, SO FAR I'M NOT SURE WHERE AT A POINT WE INTEND TO, TO COORDINATE, BUT, UM, I, HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A POINT ON OURS AS FAR AS PROGRESSING A VIABLE.

WE HAVE A BIT OF A TIMING ISSUE.

THE COUNTY IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING A DRAFT PLAN BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND I THINK THE CITY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUST KIND OF GETTING KICKED OFF.

RIGHT? YEAH.

UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING OUR, FINISHING OUR CURRENT ASSESSMENTS AND WE'VE CONSOLIDATED GOALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT YEAH, NOTHING YET THAT WE DID AT THE 80 VALUE TO LIKE SHARE YET.

AND I THINK, UH, THERE PROBABLY AN OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO COMPARE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE SAME PROCESS OF DEVELOPING SOME GENERAL GOALS.

SO THEN THEY'LL LEAD TO VERY SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION STEPS AND MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TOUCH BASE.

BUT TO YOUR POINT THOUGH, MIKE, I WAS, UH, I, UH, ATTENDED ONE, I GUESS, ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS AND THAT WAS HELPFUL TO ME TO SEE WHERE THE COUNTY WAS GOING AND HOW THEY'RE APPROACHING IT.

AND SO, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE DOING THAT UNTIL WE'RE READY TO KIND OF LIKE SHARE THE ACTUAL PLANS.

TIME, IF I COULD, IS WE'RE HAVING SOME COMP PLAN WORKSHOPS NEXT WEEK, WE'RE HAVING TWO IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

THAT'D BE GOOD.

AND I THINK IN PARTICULAR THAT, UH, REALLY ADDRESSES A BIG ISSUE OF GROWTH BOUNDARIES.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT AT THIS

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IF YOU ALL COULD ASSIST US IN GETTING THE WORD OUT FOR THOSE, THE ONE ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 27TH WILL BE HELD AT THE BURTON WALES, UH, CENTER AT ONE MIDDLETON RECREATION DRIVE.

IT STARTS AT FOUR O'CLOCK, IT'S AN OPEN HOUSE FORMAT.

IT'LL BE JUST FOR A DROP IN OF FOLKS BETWEEN FOUR AND 8:00 PM.

THEN ON WEDNESDAY EVENING, WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING AT THE BUCK WATER RECREATION CENTER, UH, IN BLUFFTON, UH, SAME TIME, FOUR TO EIGHT, STILL OPEN HOUSE FORMAT.

SO FOLKS CAN DROP IN AND AS CONVENIENT.

AND THEN ON THURSDAY EVENING, THE 29TH, WE'RE DOING THE SAME, SAME TIMES FOUR TO EIGHT.

THAT'LL BE HELD AT THE, UH, FOR ZELLE COMMUNITY HOUSE AT THE PENN CENTER OUT ON ST.

HELENA.

SO IF YOU ALL COULD, UM, HELP US GET THE WORD OUT TO THAT TO FOLKS, UM, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

THAT'S THE 29TH AT.

OH, I SEE IT.

THANK YOU, ERIC.

I APPRECIATE IT.

Y'ALL MAY HAVE ALREADY GONE OVER THAT.

I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

UM, THEN THE LAST THING AIR, WHILE YOU'RE ON THE LINE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO TRY AND INVITE, UH, DONALD TOOL AND, UM, UH, DAN RYAN TO ADDRESS, UM, OUR, OUR GROUP.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE STILL DOING IN THE FUTURE HERE? YEAH, WE'RE DOING, I HAVE A MEETING SET UP WITH MR. O'TOOLE AND WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND WE'LL HAVE HIM ON TRY TO HAVE HIM HOME FOR THE MEETING IN NOVEMBER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, SO WE'RE OFF OUR PRIORITIES PRIORITIZE LIST, UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS AN ADDITIONAL ITEM THEY'D LIKE TO, UH, BRING, BRING UP OR PUT ON THAT LIST.

UM, MIKE, YEAH.

UM, I WOULD, UM, AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT FOR NOW, BUT I THINK THE CITY OF BUFORD AND THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL HAD BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE, THE WORKINGS OF THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, THE APPOINTMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, W WHEN WE, WE WERE SO EXCITED AND AGAIN, ROB IS THE INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY HERE WHEN WE WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT PASSING AFTER FIVE YEARS, THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN, AND IT APPEARED TO BE WORKING, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT FORTH, AND I THINK I PUSHED IT.

AND SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF BUFORD COUNTY COUNCIL, SOUTH OF THE BROAD OPPOSED IT, BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE IMPLEMENTATIONS, IT MIGHT HAVE INADVERTENT IMPLEMENTATIONS ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING, BUT ANYWAY, WE DID PASS AND CREATE THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION WITH TWO MEMBERS FROM PORT ROYAL, TWO MEMBERS FROM THE CITY BUFORD, AND TWO MEMBERS APPOINTED BY COUNTY COUNCIL.

I THINK THERE'S A FEELING AND OUR CITY MANAGER'S SOME RESEARCH, UM, IS THAT THE CONCEPT WAS TO HAVE A SORT OF SEAMLESS TRANSITIONS BETWEEN URBAN AND RURAL OR AREAS WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES VERSUS, UM, AREAS THAT, UH, WOULD BE IN, IN, IN THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES WITH CERTAIN, UH, DIRECTION ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES, AND THEN ANOTHER DIRECTION ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT, BUT COULD SOON BE B, UH, COULD SOON BE, UH, COULD BECOME PART OF THE CITY.

UM, AND, UM, I THINK IT'S A COMMON FEELING, UH, MIKE'S HERE, JERRY'S HERE, UH, TO SPEAK UP TO IT, BUT THERE'S SORT OF A FEELING THAT THE NPC IS FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON THE PORT ROYAL PROJECTS AND THE BUFORD PROJECTS, BUT NONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT SURROUND OR WITHIN OUR GROWTH BOUNDARIES AND, UH, THAT REALLY DOESN'T GET TO THE INTENT.

AND, AND IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, AND IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE THAT THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO REVISIT THE, UH, THE, THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION IN TERMS OF IT'S ITS DOING WHAT WAS INTENDED.

UM, THE SECOND MPC ISSUE IS THE QUESTION IS THAT WE THREW IT TOGETHER SO QUICKLY.

UH, NO ONE CAN REALLY FIND ANY DOCUMENTATION OF IT'S.

I THINK WE HAVE IT SUBMISSION,

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BUT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND NOW WE FACE, UM, AS MIKE KNOWS, IS CHAIRMAN OF THE MPC, A LAWSUIT, AND IT'S A LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST THE CITY, BUT THE COMPLAINT IS AGAINST THE MPC.

SO WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, IF IT GOES TO COURT, THE FIRST STEP IS MEDIATION, BUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE.

UM, MY VIEW IS THAT SINCE EACH OF US APPOINT MEMBERS, WE'RE PARTNERS IN THIS, UM, AND THAT, THAT SHOULD NOT JUST FALL ON THE CITY, UM, BECAUSE THE CITY WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO NEGOTIATE, UH, JUST, BUT WOULD BE ONLY ABLE TO NEGOTIATE FOR THE CITY RATHER THAN ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE PARTNERS IN IT.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND, UH, IF WE PROCEED WITH IT, WHICH I THINK WE'D ALL LIKE TO DO, BUT IF WE PROCEED WITH IT GETTING SOME CLARITY IN TERMS OF RIGHTS, RESPONSIBILITIES, OBLIGATIONS, UM, AND, AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

UM, I KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGERS SPOKEN TO THE FORMER, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S FORMER YET, BUT FORMER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT THIS, WHO, WHO, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE COUNTY REALLY IS PART OF THIS.

DAVID, YOU MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, OR JERRY MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT, OR MIKE WANTED, WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO DISCUSS TODAY, PARTICULARLY, BUT I THINK IN THE FUTURE, IF WE PROCEED, WHICH I THINK WE ALL WANT TO, WITH THE MPC, WE'VE GOT A LOT TO, TO CLARIFY IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT IT DOES, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, UH, WHAT OUR ACCOUNTABILITY IS AS PARTNERS IN THIS PROCESS.

UH, IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT, MIKE AND DAVID AND JERRY? NO, I, I AGREE, MAYOR, LIKEWISE, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UP ABOUT ONE ISSUE CONCERNING METRO, IF THAT'S OKAY.

UM, WE, UH, DOCUMENTED EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION FOR REASON WITHIN THE GROWTH, SINCE INCEPTION OF THE METRO PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND WE HAVE BROUGHT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE REASONINGS TO THAT.

TRUE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY IS, IS SHARING OUR RELEVANT PROJECTS WITH METRO.

I MEAN YEAH.

THE LIST OF THOSE AND DOCUMENTATION OF ACTIONS, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO SHARE THEM WITH YOU.

I THINK ROB, I THINK THERE, SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE, I THINK THEIR EXPECTATIONS WERE PROBABLY, THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOUR SUBDIVISION APPROVAL DON'T GO TO PLANNING COMMISSIONS.

AND SO I THINK PEOPLE SAW SOME THINGS COMING FROM PORT ROY OR, OR THE FLOOR OF THE CITY AND SIMILAR THINGS WERE COMING FROM THE COUNTY.

THAT'S BECAUSE YOUR ORDINANCE IS DIFFERENT, YOUR ORDERS DOESN'T, UH, SEND THOSE THINGS TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WHY THEY THOUGHT THERE.

THEY MIGHT NOT BE COMING.

THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO COME.

MAYBE, MAYBE ROB YOU, YOU AND DAVID HAD CLARIFY THIS BY COMPARING AND RECONCILING YOUR LIST.

WE MAY BE MISTAKEN.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE AND I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE, SO MAYBE WE COULD, WE COULD CLARIFY THAT.

I KNOW, I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN SOME SUBDIVISION PLANS, BUT I THINK IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER THINGS, SO IT'S JUST RECONCILED OUR LISTS AND MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE WE'RE WRONG.

UM, I, THE ONLY INPUT THAT I HAVE RELATIVE TO THE, SOME OF THAT ISSUE IS THAT THE, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT THE COUNTY HAS APPOINTED TO THE MPC HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY VALUABLE AND, UH, HAVE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB FOR ALL THREE OF OUR, UH, GROUPS, UH, BOTH THE COUNTY, THE CITY AND THE TOWN, UH, AND HAVE, UH, UH, UH, BUCKETED EVERY ONE OF THE ISSUES BEFORE THEM, UH, WITH, UH, WITH, WITH AS THOUGH IT'S THE METROPOLITAN AREA AND THE IMPACT ON THE METROPOLITAN AREA AND NOT INDIVIDUALLY.

I MEAN, I I'M THE LEAD STAFF PERSON TO MAKE SURE THINGS GO NATURAL AND I WENT AND DOUBLE CHECK JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.

SO I THINK THAT THE MISUNDERSTANDING MAY BE THE MAJOR LAND DEVELOPMENT OKAY.

UH, YEAH.

THANK YOU GUYS.

UH, I'LL, I'LL PUT IT ON OUR AGENDAS FOR DISGUISE, UH, IN OUR NEXT MONTHLY MEETING.

AND ROB, IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, GIVE US A SUMMARY UPDATE AT THAT TIME AND, AND, UH, WE CAN AT LEAST OPEN THE DISCUSSION NEXT TIME, WHETHER THAT NEEDS TO THEN GO INTO MORE OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, THAT CAN BE DECIDED.

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SO I APPRECIATE THEIR ASSISTANCE AND HELP WHILE I, MY COMMENT MIKE WAS NOT ABOUT THE MEMBERS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

NO, I TOTALLY UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS, WOULD BE IMPORTANT JUST TO SAY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE APPRECIATED THEIR ASSISTANCE AND INVOLVEMENT.

ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, AND NOW WE'LL BE ROBBED THE FILL ORDINANCE.

UM, OKAY.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONS THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BRING? SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE

[12. FILL ORDINANCE]

WE'VE KIND OF COVERED THAT, UH, PREVIOUSLY.

UH, SO GO AHEAD AND UPDATE US.

I HAVE IT HERE ON THE SCREEN, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT ANY PARTICULAR PART OF THE ORDINANCE.

UM, BUT BASICALLY AS YOU'RE AWARE, THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM THE LADIES ISLANDS PLAN.

UM, WE SET UP A TASK FORCE TO LOOK AT NOT ONLY THE PHIL ORDINANCE AND THE, UM, SEA LEVEL RISE OVERLAY, WHICH WE'RE CALLING THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY, BUT WE'VE BEEN REALLY ADDRESSING ISSUES RELATED TO SEA LEVEL RISE AND FLOODING.

UM, WE NOW HAVE A DRAFT.

UM, WE FEEL THAT IT'S BEEN FAIRLY VETTED.

UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INPUT FROM BUILDERS, FROM, UH, SURVEYORS, FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH ISSUES OF FILL ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

UM, AND WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS EVERY, I GUESS, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE, UM, LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL INTENT, WHICH WAS TO AVOID A SITUATION IN THE FUTURE, SIMILAR TO THE WALMART ON LADY'S ISLAND.

UM, THE LANDSCAPE IS BRINGING HIM IN A FIELD TO BRING AN AREA THAT'S REALLY LOW LYING, UM, TO BRING IT UP TO BASE FLOOD ELEVATION, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN GO INTO DETAILS IN THE ORDINANCE IF YOU WOULD LIKE, OR, OR I CAN ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS CARRYING ON.

UM, ROB, I HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS THAT CAME UP AT THE LAST, UH, LADIES ISLAND PLAN INPUT IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE THAT, UH, WERE VOTED ON, UH, TO ADD TO YOUR ORDINANCE.

AND, UH, WHENEVER YOU'D LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THOSE, UH, I I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THE FOUNDATION.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING THOSE INTO THERE.

I, UM, IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL AND I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IF YOU LOOK FOR THEM NOW, THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU GO DOWN TO A 5.1, 3.20 FILL RESTRICTIONS, AND YOU GO TO ITEM B ON THAT, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF MODIFICATIONS, UH, THAT WE WANTED TO PUT IN THERE.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, AS YOU READ THE ONLY PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT MAY BE FILLED IN THE AREA UNDERNEATH THE ELEVATED STRUCTURE TOGETHER WITH DRIVEWAY AND WALKWAY ACCESS.

SO ADDING THE WORD AND WALKWAY ACCESS.

SO WE HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE A WALKWAY WITH THE DRIVEWAY ON THAT.

THE NEXT MODIFICATION IS RIGHT UNDER, THAT IS A FIELD SHELL TAPER AT A MAXIMUM SLOPE OF ONE TO THREE FROM THE OUTER.

AND THEN, AND, UH, WE HAD SUGGESTED THEN INSERT, UM, FIVE FOOT PERIMETER OF THE CONSTRUCTION TO THE EXISTING ELEVATION.

UH, BASICALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOWS, UH, FOR THAT TAPER TO HAPPEN, UM, A

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UH, IT'S A LITTLE EASIER FOR CONSTRUCTION AND IT ALLOWS YOU TO GET OTHER PATHWAYS AND LANDSCAPING UP.

OH, OKAY.

AND I REMEMBER THOSE COMMENTS AND THAT MAKES SENSE.

THAT IS KATE AND ELEVATION AND THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL, THEY MAKE ONE TO EXCEPT THE PORT PROPERTY.

WERE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON THAT? YEAH.

UM, THANK YOU, ROB, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

AND THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS EMANATED, I THINK WITH EVERYBODY AGREEING THAT IT WAS WORTH PURSUING AND FOLLOWING UP WITH, WITH THIS GROUP AND REALLY ONE OF THE PRODUCTS, POSITIVE PRODUCTS OF THE LADY'S ISLAND PLANNING PROCESS.

UM, AND I HAVE NOT STUDIED THIS OR TALK TO MY COLLEAGUES OR TALK TO DAVID OR TALK TO OUR ENGINEERS, NOT WANT A LOT OF OBSERVATION.

HOWEVER, IS THIS MAY BE A CASE WHERE ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL.

AND I CAN THINK OF SOME SITUATIONS WHERE IF THERE IS AN IN PLACE STORM WATER SYSTEM, AND SOMEONE BUYS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IT'S NEIGHBORS AND IS BECOMING A I DON'T, I PULL UPON A, IN MANY WAYS, UM, IT MAKES SENSE TO, TO RAISE IT TO WHATEVER LEVEL THOSE OTHER PROJECTS ARE.

UM, IF SOMEONE BUYS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS CERTAINLY BELOW THE ELEVATION, BUT TO BRING IT UP TO THE, TO THE, TO THE GRADE AND INTEGRATED INTO A, INTO A STORM WATER SYSTEM THAT EXISTS, OR IS IN PROCESS SOME, SOME OF THIS WHICH WOULD LOOK AT, AND WHAT NOT, I THINK WOULD BE OVERLY RESTRICTIVE AND NOT THEM ALLOW THEM TO USE THAT PROPERTY.

UM, AND THE FINAL IS, IS A PLACE LIKE THE COMMERCE PARK, WHERE WE KNOW THERE ARE LOW AREAS WHERE THERE CAN BE MITIGATION TO ON OUR SITE TO BE A COMPLETE SITE.

UM, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT, THAT THE WALMART, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE OF, OF TOO MUCH, UM, AND WE START, WE STARTED WITH THEM, BUT I THINK THAT THE JURISDICTION BY JURISDICTION, DEPENDING ON PROXIMITY TO WATER, DEPENDING ON UNDER THE NATURAL WATERS WHERE THE WATER COULD FLOW, UM, THERE MAY BE SOME CONTRADICTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVEN'T STUDIED IT THAT WELL.

AND, BUT W WE, WE WILL DO THAT.

UM, UM, W WE LIKE ONE, THE ONE HAND, ONE, ONE, ONE, ONE ORDINANCE THAT FITS ALL CERTAINLY MAKES IT EASIER, MORE SIMPLE, MORE UNDERSTANDABLE, UM, AS IN WEARING MASKS.

UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT THERE, THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THE GEOGRAPHY TOPOGRAPHY OF PORT ROYAL BUFORD HILTON HAD BLOCKED AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS MAY REQUIRE DIFFERENT KINDS OF TREATMENTS.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT, BUT I, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ONLY TO SAY THAT I THINK FROM THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW, THEY WILL NOT PERSONAL QUERY WILL BE AS TO ONE AS TO WHETHER ONE SIZE DOES FIT ALL.

IF I COULD SPEAK TO THE ISSUE OF THE COMMERCE PART IN ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL MENTION THAT IT SAYS THIS ONLY APPLIES TO AREAS AT 10 FEET OR BELOW SEA LEVEL.

SO I BELIEVE THAT COMMERCE PARK IS AS WELL ABOUT THAT.

BUT THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE IS A PLACEHOLDER, UM, FURTHER DOWN IN THE DOCUMENT.

I HAVEN'T HIGHLIGHTED WHERE MAY ADOPT AREAS OF ACCEPTION, WHERE THEY'RE PROMOTING UNTIL AND REDEVELOPMENT.

SO IN THE CASE OF THE CITY, THEY MAY WANT TO, UM, NOT, NOT APPLY TO DOWNTOWN AND, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THAT'S THE AREA

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YOU KNOW, IF THEY SEE THIS WORKING COUNTER TO THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT.

SO THERE IS A, THERE IS SOME WIGGLE ROOM AND, AND THE ABILITY FOR LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO PROVIDE SOME EXCEPTIONS.

I DID PUT A CIRCLE IN A QUESTION ROUND AROUND THAT.

AND, AND WHAT I, WHAT I THOUGHT WE MIGHT DO IS IF YOU AGREE, IS A COMPANY CAN LOOK AT HOW OUR INFILL ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, WE DISCOURAGE IT, BUT THEN WE DO ALLOW IT IF, IF THE OBLIGATE DEMONSTRATE NO ADVERSE EFFECT AND NO CHANGES TO A FLOOD WATERS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO I THINK WE'VE MAYBE JUST LOOK AT OURS AND THEN READ THE ONE THAT ROB HAS DONE.

AND, AND THEN, UH, SO WE CAN KIND OF, UM, YOU ABLE TO GO FORWARD.

UM, I HAVE ONE OTHER, UH, ONE OTHER MODIFICATION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, AND IT'S UNDER A FIVE DASH ONE, THREE DASH TWO ZERO AND IT'S ITEM, UH, L THREE AND IT STATES SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES UTILIZING RAISED SLABS.

A CURTAIN WALL MAY CONTAIN MORE THAN THREE FEET OF FILL IF IT IS LOADED TO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDINGS, INSERT, WHICH WOULD BE AFTER SLAPPED WITH MAY SPERRY OR CONCRETE CURTAIN WALL, UH, THERE'LL BE A RETAINING WALL.

AND ONCE YOU GET THREE FEET OR MORE, UM, TO, UH, MAKE THAT EITHER MASONRY OR CON, UH, CONCRETE.

SO THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER AD THAT, UH, THAT, UH, INCLUDE WITH THAT DISCUSSION.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MY, MY ONLY LAST COMMENT AND IS IN ADMINISTRATION WHEN IT SAYS PERMITTED UPON APPROVAL BY THE DIRECTOR, THE DIRECTOR, WELL, WE WROTE THIS TO FIT IN OUR ORDINANCE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE I HOPE TO MEET WITH, UM, DAVE PER SHARD AND LINDA BRIDGES TO IN OUR CASE THAT USUALLY THAT, THAT ALWAYS APPLIES TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF THE CITY, YOU MAY WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

[13. COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY DISTRICT]

A WORK SESSION ON THIS JUST TO REVIEW THE ELEMENTS AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY COUNT TAIL OURS AND THAT COASTAL RESILIENCE, THEY LOOK VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD.

THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER 13, COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY DISTRICT ROB.

YES, THIS IS A LOT SIMPLER.

UM, THIS IS AN OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT APPLIES THAT THIS IS BASICALLY COMING FROM THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN.

THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ADOPT A SEA LEVEL RISE OVERLAY DISTRICT.

UM, WE, WE CHANGED THE NAME TO COASTAL RESILIENCE.

THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE A KIND OF AN INDUSTRY ACCEPTANCE, UH, TERMINOLOGY.

UM, AND THIS APPLIES TO AREAS AT 10 FEET OR LOWER IN ELEVATION.

AND IT IS SIMPLY AT THIS POINT, UM, A DISCLOSURE OR NOTIFICATION REQUIRED WHEN REAL ESTATE IS TRANSFERRED.

AND SO MOST OF THE LANGUAGE IN HERE HAS TO DO WITH A STATEMENTS THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A COMPANY THAT FEEDS OR WHEN LAND IS SUBDIVIDED A COMPANY, THE PLATS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE REQUIRE WITHIN THE CORDOVA RELATE DISTRICTS AROUND THE AIR STATION.

IN THE LAST MEETING THAT YOU HAD POINT TO TALKING WITH THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, HAS THAT HAPPENED OR HAS THIS BEEN SHARED WITH THEM? NO, NOT YET.

AND THAT'S KIND OF ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH THE COMMITTEE THIS MORNING IS WHAT YOU FELT WERE GOOD NEXT STEPS, BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT CORRUGATED ADOPTION AND, UM, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL WITH THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS BEFORE THOSE STANDARDS, THE STATE, OBVIOUSLY I THINK DAVE, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE

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I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE NEED TO GET BY REALTOR, GIVE ME ENTITY WITH REFERENCE TO THE, TO THE, UM, THE AREA WHERE YOU OPEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO FAIL, TO DO IT.

SO, UM, FOR THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, THEY NEED TO BE VESTED AND, AND ENGAGED IN AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WITH ALL THEIR TRANSACTIONS.

UM, ERIC, I THINK, I MEAN, ROB, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

THIS IS, THIS IS CERTAINLY WHAT I ANTICIPATED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

UM, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU.

I WOULD ASK MIKE OR DAVE ONE QUESTION, AND THAT IS, AS WE'VE LOOKED AT AND DISCUSSED THE FLOOD MAPS THE OTHER DAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT 13 FEET.

AND, AND HOW, IF AT ALL, WOULD THAT AFFECT THIS WITH THE NEW FLOOD MAPS? YOU MEAN? UM, I THINK LIKE THE STANDARDS THAT WE LOOK LIKE WE'VE PLANNED TO ADOPT IN THE CITY WITH REFERENCE TO MAINTAINING OUR FLOOD LEVELS, THAT THE 10 FOOT AND LESS IS PROBABLY THE, YOU KNOW, THE POINT BY WHICH LAWYER WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE.

UM, THEY MAY HAVE DIFFERENT FEELINGS ABOUT THAT.

AND MAYBE BRUCE WOULD BE A BETTER PERSON TO ASK THAT QUESTION FROM OUR STANDPOINT, RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK THAT OUT.

I JUST THOUGHT IT, PUT IT OUT THERE THAT LOOKING AT OUR FLAT MAPS, WHERE WE ARE LOOKING FOR, UH, AT, AT A FIGURE THAT MAY BE HIGHER THAN 10 FEET.

PART OF THE RATIONALE BETWEEN ABOUT CHOOSING 10 FEET IS THAT WE'RE MAKING THE ASSUMPTION AND IT'S STILL NOT CLEAR WHICH STEPS EACH LOCAL JURISDICTION MAY TAKE IN RESPONSE TO THE NEW FEMA MAPS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF WE REQUIRE TWO FEET OR THREE FEET OF FREE BOARDS, THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF FILL THAT PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO BRING IN ON THEIR PROPERTY IF YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 10 FEET OR BELOW OR AT 10 FEET OF, OF, UM, ABOVE SEA LEVEL.

SO IT'S, IT REALLY BEGINS TO IMPACT PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOWER THAN THAT BECAUSE THEN ADDITIONAL FILL NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN TO BRING THEM UP TO THE REQUIRED BASE FLOOD ELEVATION PLUS FREEBOARD.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT, IT REALLY, UM, IMPACTS PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOWER THAN THAT 10 FEET, AND REALLY ADDRESSES THAT THERE'S VERY LOW LYING PROBLEM.

I THINK THE BASIS OF, OF BOTH THE ORDINANCES GIVE US THE, THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE NEED.

I THINK THAT WE CAN MOVE THEM FROM HERE AND THEN LET OUR COUNCILS LOOK AT HOW WE DOVETAIL OURS INTO THAT.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES WITH REFERENCE TO THE COUNTY SIDE, FROM OUR PART, WE CAN ALWAYS DISCUSS THAT AS AN, AS AN AMENDMENT, FOLLOWING IT OR BEFORE YOUR ORDINANCES ARE SOLIDIFIED.

SO I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.

I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND, UM, WE'LL SIT DOWN WITH, UH, THE STAFF OF THE CITY AND THE, AND THE TOWN, AND WE CAN KIND OF COMPARE NOTES AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO FROM THE ACTUAL END POINT, WE CAN MOVE, WE CAN MOVE THE PAST WITH WORKING WITH THE TOWNS AND THE CITIES THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THESE FORWARD, I THINK, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT WITH, WITH THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE OR DISCUSSION MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING, NONE, ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD.

UH, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO WE HAVE A CORE ON HERE, ERIC? ISN'T FOR ME, SIX OUT OF 12 IS A QUORUM.

WE HAVE SIX OF OUR 12 MEMBERS.

UNANIMOUS DECISION TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

AND I THINK WE HAD A SIX MEMBER

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SO THANK YOU, ROB.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM,

[14. APPROVAL OF 2021 NRPIC MEETING SCHEDULE]

NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE 2021, UH, IN R I C.

AND I GUESS IT'S THE SCHEDULE THAT YOU HAD IN YOUR PACKET? DOES ANYBODY SEE ANY, UH, UH, PROBLEMS WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT WAS PRESENTED? IT LOOKS FINE IF THIS WORKS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE THAT SAID WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

I'LL LOOK FOR A MOTION ON APPROVAL OF THE SCHEDULE.

WELL, UM, I APOLOGIZE, UH, ALICE HOWARD LEFT, AND SO WE, WE ONLY HAVE FIVE OF OUR MEMBERS.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT MOTION THAT, UH, TO THE NEXT MEETING FOR A QUARREL.

AND I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE CAN'T, UH, APPROVE THE SCHEDULE SCHOOL, UNOFFICIALLY APPROVE THE SCHEDULE, BUT WE'LL MOVE THAT OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL.

UH, ANY ROUND TABLE COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS HEARING NONE.

I HAVE MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.

SORRY.

THE NEWER OTHER BUSINESS.

I DON'T KNOW.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY NEW OR OTHER BUSINESS? NO, BUT I WROTE THE REMINDING, THE CHAIRMAN THAT WE HAD MOVED AT ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TO LATER IN THE MEETING IN CASE ANYTHING CAME UP.

IS THERE ANYTHING FROM ONLINE THAT ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MIKE.

UM, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS REALLY RELEVANT TO THE AGENDA.

THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE MASK, WONDERING WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO ADDRESS THE MASK ORDINANCE, BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS BODY, UH, WHERE ARE YOU HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM.

[16. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2020, 9:30 A.M. MEETING DETAILS WILL BE ROUTED PRIOR TO NOVEMBER 20.]