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[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

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COUNCILMAN SOUTHERN VOTE? >> COUNCILMAN DAWSON, ARE YOU ON NOW?

>> SHOULD ANYBODY SEE COUNCILMAN DAWSON IS ON AS YET ?

I DO NOT SEE HIM IN THE PARTICIPANT LIST. >> I'M CHAIRMAN.

OKAY. >> THANK YOU. AND CHAIR PASHMAN IS HERE.

ALL 11 MEMBERS ARE PRESENT TO CONDUCT BUSINESS. WOULD YOU ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE VAL YOUR HEADS. DEAR LORD, GIVE US GUIDANCE DURING THIS MEETING AS WE EXERCISE OUR DUTIES MAKE IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT OUR ACTIONS IN THIS MEETING BE VALUABLE. LET OUR DELIBERATIONS BE PRODUCTIVE.

LET US BE EFFECTIVE AND DECISIVE AND LET OUR DISCUSSIONS PRODUCE EFFECTIVE RESULTS. A MAN MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU GET STARTED.

WE'VE GOT PEOPLE PINNING US SAYING THEY CAN'T HEAR ON ONE OF THEM.

THERE'S NO AUDIO THERE'S NO AUDIO FOR WHO ON FACEBOOK. OK.

YOU BOY. I KNOW IT'S ON THE COUNTY CHANNEL THROUGH FACEBOOK.

I'M SURE THAT DAY WILL BE WORKING ON THAT. I'LL CONTINUE ON PUBLIC NOTICE OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. BEFORE I ASK FOR APPROVAL

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OF THE AGENDA I WAS ASKED FOR A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA AS FOLLOWS WE NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PRIOR TO CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

REASON NUMBER ONE IS FOR SECTION THIRTY DASH FOR 70 A FOR INVESTIGATIVE PROCEEDINGS REGARDING ALLEGATIONS OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT. SECOND IS FOR 30 DASH FOR 70 A ONE TO DISCUSS MATTERS RELATED TO AN EMPLOYEE RELATED REGULATED BY COUNCIL.

AND FINALLY FOR RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE WHERE LEGAL ADVICE RELATES TO A PENDING THREATENED OR POTENTIAL CLAIM FOR OTHER MATTERS COVERED BY AN ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE.

SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA FOR THOSE CLOSED SESSION ITEMS IMMEDIATELY, MR.

RODMAN? >> ALSO THERE WAS DISCRETION I THINK IT RIDES ON ABOUT HAVING FIRST READING FOR AN ORDINANCE FOR TWELVE FIVE THROUGH RURAL AND CRITICAL THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE FORWARD THE FIRST READING ALL WE CAN DO THAT AS THE SECOND MOTION.

>> YEAH OUR FRUITS IN MOTION AND THEN ASK MAYBE BRIAN WOULD MAKE A SECOND.

>> NOW I'LL SECOND THE MOTION CASE. >> OKAY EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS. OTHERWISE THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION. SEEING NO OBJECTIONS. THE EXECUTIVE SESSION IS APPROVED AND ADDED TO THE AGENDA IS THEIR RIGHT AND ADDITIONAL CHANGE IN THE AGENDA

. >> MR. CHAIRMAN IF I MIGHT I'D LIKE BAD NIGHT AND REGARD MEETING COUNTY PURCHASE OUR PARTY GARDEN PROJECT 2020 A SMALL AMENDMENT TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PURCHASE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AND WE NEED TO ADD A

SMALL AMOUNT TO THAT BUDGET. >> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT MOTION. THANK YOU, MISS HOWARD.

WE DO HAVE A DULY MOTIONED IN SECOND TO ADD AN AGENDA ITEM 20 20 TWENTY.

>> FOR A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THE AMOUNT OF TWELVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS TO BE APPROVED AS PART OF THE ACTION ITEMS WILL BE ITEM NUMBER NINE.

THIS MOTION WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING

NO OBJECTIONS? >> THAT ITEM IS ADDED TO THE AGENDA.

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I NOW SEEK A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED SO CLOSE OUR PROJECT.

I'D LIKE TO OFFER AN AMENDMENT . ANOTHER AMENDMENT?

YES SIR. >> IN I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE. NOW WE MOVE THE ORIGINAL ITEMS NINE AND 10 TO A SOCIALLY DISTANCED IN-PERSON SPECIAL MEETING OF COUNSEL WITH BOTH

IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT AND DIALOG. >> THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND THE SECOND IT HAS BEEN MOVED BY MR. PURVIS SEAN SECONDED BY MR. COVERT MOVE.

NINE IN 10 TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION AND TIME. CORRECT.

>> IN PERSON SOCIALLY DISTANCE LOCATION AND TIME. OKAY.

IT HAS BEEN DULY MOTIONED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT

THIS? >> DO WE WANT TO HAVE THIS AS A MOTION WITHOUT OBJECTION?

CHAIRMAN, I NEED A MINUTE ROLL CALL. >> OKAY.

MR. HERMAN SHOT. >> YOU WILL GO FIRST. YEAH.

OKAY. >> WE DID IT ON THE RECORD THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT EXACTLY IT

IS MOVING. >> THE MOTION IS TO TAKE ITEMS NUMBER 9 AND 10 REMOVE THEM FROM THIS AGENDA AND MOVE THEM TO A NEW TIME AND PLACE FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM TO BE DONE IN PUBLIC. I SAID FOR THE PURPOSES OF THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE ACCESS

TO THE AGENDA. >> COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THOSE ITEMS DESCRIBE? NINE AND TEN. NINE IS UNDER S CAROLINA CODE THIRTY DASH FOR SEVENTY A ONE DISCUSSION OF MATTERS RELATED TO AN EMPLOYEE REGULATED BY COUNTY COUNCIL.

ITEM NUMBER TEN WOULD BE MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS IN PUBLIC. IS THAT THE.

IS THAT THE MOTION? >> THAT IS CORRECT. AT A TIME AND PLACE TO BE DESIGNATE CHAIRMAN. YEAH. WAIT.

WE'RE ON DISCUSSION. WE STARTED THE VOTING. DID YOU HAVE AN ITEM

OF DISCUSSION BEFORE WE'RE VOTING? >> YES.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA TO TAKE THESE TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE HAVE

MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WOULD BE

THE TIME TO TAKE THE MOTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> WHAT IS BUT WE HAVE A DULY

MOTIONED. >> AND SECOND THAT WE NOW HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON UNLESS THE MOTION AND THE SECOND WILL WITHDRAW THEIR MOTION SINCE THEY WILL NOT WITHDRAW THEIR

MOTION. >> WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH THE VOTING MR. HER SHINE WOULD YOU

VOTE AGAIN PLEASE? >> YES, COUNCILMAN COVERT YOU WERE SECOND.

I COUNCILMAN DAWSON, COUNCILMAN DAWSON, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> NOW I CAN NOW COUNCILMAN SLOW WELLING. YES. COUNCILMAN GLOVER? YES. COUNCILMAN HOWARD? NO.

COUNCILMAN LAWSON. MARK LATHAM. NO.

COUNCILMAN MCCLELLAN? NO. COUNCILMAN RODMAN? NO. COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE. NO.

THE CHAIR SAYS NO. >> THE VOTES ARE 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 .

NO. AND 4. YES.

THE ITEM IS DEFEATED. WE ARE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AGENDA AS AMENDED.

MAY I HAVE A MOMENT PUSHING FOR THE AGENDA AS AMENDED FROM I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE WHO MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE MCKELLEN. YOU MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE POINT OF PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. EXCUSE ME.

ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA MY PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY IS THAT I BELIEVE THIS ITEM IS BEING TAKEN UP IS OUT OF ORDER. THIS ITEM WAS VOTED ON LAST WEEK AS WE ALL KNOW A DECISION OF FAIL FAIL TO PASS WAS READ AND RECORDED. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS TO BE BROUGHT BACK UP IS BY A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND THAT MUST BE DONE BY

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SOMEONE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE . MY REQUEST IS THAT NUMBERS.

ITEM NUMBER SIX BE STRICKEN FROM THE AGENDA. YOU ASK THAT QUESTION.

VAR TURNING WHO GAVE YOU AN ANSWER THAT SAID ANY ITEM CAN BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN? AND IF YOU READ ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER YOU CAN CONSIDER ITEMS TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.

ITEMS TO RECONSIDER AS YOU SAID OR YOU CAN RENEW AN ITEM. THIS ITEM IS GOING TO BE RENEWED. RESPECTFULLY I ASK TO REPEAL THERE, SAYS ANOTHER CHAIR BY

OUR PARLIAMENTARY OFFICER. >> OKAY, IF I MIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION TO APPEAL THE DECISION AND CHAIR AND MUST BE SECONDED MR CHAIRMAN. AND THEN WE GO THROUGH AND GET MAJORITIES TO EITHER SUSTAIN THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR OR TO OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE

CHAIR. THIS MOTION NEEDS A SECOND. >> YOU SHOULD ASK FOR A SECOND AT THIS POINT, MR CHAIRMAN, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL MAKE THE SECOND.

OKAY. >> MOTION IS MADE BY MR COVID A SECOND MIND MR HERBERT SHOWN TO REJECT THE CHAIRS ANALYSIS OF WHY THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AND A DISCUSSION YOU'RE ON MUTE

BRYANT THANK YOU. >> EVERYBODY SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHAIR DECIDED THAT THIS IS A RENEWAL OF A PREVIOUS ITEM AS OPPOSED TO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER OR A RECONSIDERATION OF AN ITEM. AND JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS MR TAYLOR'S ASSESSMENT OF RENEWAL VERSUS RECONSIDERATION. WHAT'S APPROPRIATE? IT'S THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR WHETHER TO CHARACTERIZE THIS AS RECONSIDERATION OR RENEWAL. YOU DECIDE RENEWAL.

THE MOTION IS TO OVERTURN YOUR DECISION. I MEAN THAT MR CHAIRMAN, ONCE IT'S SUFFICIENT FROM THE PARLIAMENT KOREANS EXPLANATION I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

MR HER VERSION WOULD YOU WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND? >> THAT'S FINE.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

OK THEN WE ARE BACK TO APPROVING THE AGENDA AS AMENDED TWICE THE MOTION.

SO MR CHAIRMAN. OKAY. >> I HEARD MR. RODMAN FIRST AS LOUD AND CLEAR AND WHO WAS THE SECOND MCGOWAN SECOND MR MCKELLEN WHO MADE THE SECOND?

>> THE AGENDA WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT EXCEPTION. >> ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS SAYING NO EXCEPTIONS? THE MOTION IS APPROVED AS AMENDED.

[EXECUTIVE SESSION (Part 1 of 2)]

OK, BEFORE WE GO INTO CITIES AND COMMENTS WE HAVE THE ABILITY NOW TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO REVIEW THE ITEMS THAT WERE PLACED ON THE AGENDA AS AMENDED.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? >> I'M SORRY.

>> WHO WAS THE FIRST MR SOME REVEALED WERE YOU THE FIRST NUMBERS ELLSBERG?

>> THAT'S OKAY. MAY I HAVE A SECOND SECOND STEP?

>> MR RUDMAN YOU ARE THE SECOND . THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SAYING NO OBJECTIONS? MR. GLOVER. YES. IS THIS.

THIS DEAL WITH NINE AND 10? IT IS NOT. OK, NINE IN 10 OR SEPARATE THE.

WE'RE DEALING WITH THREE SPECIFIC ITEMS CRIMINAL CONTACT DISCUSSION OF MATTERS RELATED TO BUY OF EMPLOYEE REGULATED TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE.

IT'S A MOTION TO GO AND EXECUTIVE. >> IT IS.

>> IT IS. THANK YOU. OK.

AGAIN THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SEEING AND NO OBJECTIONS? WE WILL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

I INTEND TO BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT IS NOW 440 7 P.M. I DO NOT

INTEND TO BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION NO LATER THAN 5 15. >> SO IF THE PUBLIC IS AWARE

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OF THAT WE WILL BE BACK BY 5 WE ARE NOW READY TO RESUME THE

MEETING. >> MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION FROM SOMEONE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION OF OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR MISS JACOBS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? MR. SOMERVILLE, DID I HEAR YOU

MAKE THE SECOND, SIR? >> YOU DID. >> OK.

IT HAS BEEN DULY MOTIONED AND SECOND TO ACCEPT THE IMMEDIATE RESIGNATION OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ASHLEY JACOBS. THIS WILL BE TAKEN UP WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO COMFORT MR. HERBERT JOHN? WE WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE

MISS HOWARD. >> YES. MR. SOMERVILLE, IF MR.

CULVERT ABSTAIN. >> MR. DAWSON. YES.

MR. FLOWING WITH REGRET? YES. MR. GLOVER.

NO. MR. HER VERSION. I'M STAYING.

MR. LAWSON. MARK LAWSON? YES.

>> MR. MCKELLEN? YES. MR. RUDMAN? YES. AND THE CHAIR SAYS YES. WE HAVE EIGHT.

YES. ONE? NO.

AND TWO ABSTAINED AS THE MOTION IS SUCCESSFUL WE ARE NOW READY FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.

[5. CITIZEN COMMENTS (EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK SHALL LIMIT COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES) CITIZEN COMMENTS AND PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED IN WRITING AT PO DRAWER 1228, BEAUFORT SC 29901 OR BY WAY OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT FORM AVAILABLE ONLINE AT BEAUFORTCOUNTYSC.GOV. (Part 1 of 2)]

>> THERE WERE A SERIES OF COMMENTS THAT WERE DULY DONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> THERE IS A PHONE NUMBER WITH THE ABILITY FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT TO CALL IN TO. CAN YOU PUT UP THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE THROUGH ME?

I ACTUALLY THINK YOU HAVE SOME MONEY ON THE FOR A COMMENT. >> OK.

>> WELL LET ME SEE THE NUMBER. THAT'S THE 8 0 4 8. >> IS THAT THE ONE THAT I'M MORE? 8 9 7 7 9 8 0. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> I CAN HEAR YOU. WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME?

>> YES, SIR. MY NAME IS DR. FRANK BROWN JUNIOR DOCTOR BROWN.

PLEASE, PLEASE. >> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES. GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL.

I'M A BOARD CERTIFIED DOCTOR IN THE SPECIALTY OF INTERNAL MEDICINE.

IN ADDITION, I SERVE SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT THE STATION THE G BFM IN BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA. RECOVERED NINETEEN DISEASE IS AN ISSUE OF MEDICAL SCIENCE SPECIFICALLY INFECTIOUS DISEASE AND NOT POLITICS. SOUTH CAROLINA IS AMONG THE TWENTY SEVEN STATES THAT ARE EXPERIENCING AN INCREASE IN COVERED CASES AS WE SIT HERE TODAY NATIONALLY. CASES PER DAY ARE ON THE RISE AND APPROACHING SIXTY THOUSAND PER DAY. THAT WAS THE HIGH BACK IN MID-JULY.

IN THE FACE OF THE CLOVIS BATTLE WE CANNOT WIN IF WE RETREAT.

THE TREES THAT WE USE ARE NECESSARY. >> BOOTH WEARING A FACE MASK.

WATCHING DISTANCE AND WATCHING YOUR HANDS. WE NEED ONE STANDARD OF CARE WITH RESPECT TO THE MASKS OR THE UNINCORPORATED AND MUNICIPAL CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY SEPARATE HAS NEVER BEEN EQUAL. THEREFORE ALL PERSONS SHOULD WEAR MASKS AS A PRECAUTION UNTIL WE SEE A 14 DAY DECLINE IN CASES.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. DR. BROWN'S IS THERE ANOTHER PERSON CALLING IN? YES, SIR, THERE WAS. I DON'T SEE HER ON HERE SO YOU

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CAN READ WHAT YOU HAVE AND SHE MAY, DALIN. SHE WAS TRYING TO DARLIN WHEN

THE SESSION OK. >> I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE COMMENTS ON THE OTHER COMPUTER.

>> I CAN PUT MY FOOT ON ONCE AGAIN. >> YEAH, GO AHEAD.

CASE THE FIRST ONE IS FROM LYNN ALLEN ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR COUNTY CAN REOPEN FULLY AND SAFELY ONLY IF EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND OTHERS THEY MUST WEAR FACE COVERING WHEN IN PUBLIC THE ENTIRE COUNTRY OF VIETNAM. NINETY FIVE MILLION PEOPLE HAD ONLY THIRTY FIVE DEATHS SINCE JANUARY BECAUSE THEY HAD A GOVERNMENT MANDATE TO WEAR MASS FROM DAY ONE AT OUR PRESENT AT PRESENT OUR COUNTRY COUNTRY HAS HAD 35 DEATHS PER HOUR. PLEASE PROTECT YOU FOR COUNTY CITIZENS WITH A SIMPLE DIRECTIVE NO SHOES, NO SHIRT, NO MASK, NO SERVICE SIMPLY EVERYONE HAS ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THE FIRST TWO WITH LEADERSHIP THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE THIRD CAROL WEATHERFORD FROM BEAUFORT SAYS I AM AGAINST ANOTHER FACE MASK ORDINANCE PLEASE DO NOT IMPOSE ANOTHER ORDINANCE ON BEAUTY. BEAUFORT COUNTY RESIDENTS EDWIN GENOME SAYS I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY DISPLEASURE WITH THE WAY THE COUNCIL IS FORCING COMPLIANCE TO SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT CONSIDERED SCIENCE.

>> THIS VIRUS HAS ALMOST A 100 PERCENT SURVIVAL RATE FOR ANYONE WHO IS AFFECTED.

THIS MANDATE IS AN ABUSE OF POWER THAT RELIES ON QUESTIONABLE DATA FROM THE CDC THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE EFFECTIVENESS OF OUTSIDE OR OF CLINICAL SETTINGS.

THE CDC MAKES MASK RECOMMENDATIONS BASED OFF THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE WEARING MASK ARE WEARING THEM CORRECTLY IN PREP PRACTICING PROPER HAND HYGIENE.

ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE CONDITIONS DO NOT EXIST OUTSIDE OF CLINICAL SETTINGS. THIS IS WHY WE CAN SEE THAT MASK ACTUALLY CAUSING AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF POSITIVE CASES. THIS CAN BE SEEN FROM THE CDC DATA ITSELF ALONG WITH REVIEWING TREND LINES IN STATES WHERE MASS MANDATES VERSUS THOSE WITHOUT SUCH AS GEORGIA AND FLORIDA. AGAIN TO VOTE NO DOES NOT REMOVE YOUR RECOMMENDATION BUT IT ALLOWS BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION THEMSELVES. NEXT IS FROM AARON HALL. WE NEED TO GO UP THE MAJORITY

OF NEW COVID CASE. >> I'M WRITING TO COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THE MASS ORDINANCE THAT

HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE COUNCIL'S AGENDA. >> AS IS AS A CITIZEN OF THE COUNTY AND A PERSON THAT HAS BEEN ALMOST 20 YEARS SERVING BOTH THE COUNTY AND OUR COMMUNITY IN SOME CAPACITY OR ANOTHER. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR GOVERNMENT REGULATION SINCE IT ALSO HAS MADE ME REALIZE THAT WE NEED EQUALITY AS GREAT GREAT TO MAINTAIN OUR INDIVIDUAL FREEDOMS IF WE'RE NOT THEM. WHAT ARE WE AS A COUNTRY? WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE SUBJECT OF THE MASK ORDINANCE. WHERE DO WE AS A PEOPLE DRAW THE BALANCE OF INDIVIDUAL FREEMAN'S FREEDOMS AND BEING FORCED INTO MASS COMPLIANCE? I BELIEVE THE ANSWER CAN BE FOUND BY ANYONE WHO WOULD TRULY LOOKED AT THE SUBJECT THROUGH AN OBJECTIVE LOGICAL SCIENTIFIC AND CONSTITUTIONAL LENS. SO IS THERE A SCIENTIFIC MYSTICAL DATA TO SUPPORT A NEED FOR ANOTHER MASS ORDINANCE ONE WITH NO EXPIRATION DATE? THERE IS NOT. IS IS THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE LOOKING AT THIS ISSUE IN AN OBJECTIVE LOGICAL SCIENTIFIC AND COUNCIL CONSTITUTIONAL MANNER? IT IS NOT. SO IT LEADS ME TO THE QUESTION THEN HOW IS BEAUFORT COUNTY APPROACHING THIS MANNER? I BELIEVE THE PERCEPTION IS THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL SAID SIMPLY DOING THEIR DOING AS THEY PLEASE INDEPENDENT OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY WHICH THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT. AFTER ALL YOUR OWN MISSION STATEMENT BEGINS WITH THE WORDS BEAUFORT COUNTY GOVERNMENT EXISTS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AS WE AS.

YES, I KNOW THAT MEANS THAT THE COUNCIL DOES NOT DO EVERYTHING THE PEOPLE WANT.

HOWEVER IT DOES NOT MEAN COUNCIL DICTATES POLICY AT THEIR PLEASURE WITH NO GROUNDING. IN FACT THE COUNCIL EXISTS TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY CANNOT RULE OVER THEM. IT'S MY BELIEF THAT IS EXACTLY HOW MANY ATTEMPT TO FORCE

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ANOTHER MASK ORDINANCE TO FURTHER PERPETUATE THE COUNCIL CHAIRMAN SPEAKS OF THIS IT IS ALMOST WITH DISDAIN NEXT HOUR GOVERNOR ABOUT THIS MASK ORDINANCE HAS FALLEN UPON DEAF EARS. THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE FOR YOU THE MESSAGE.

I'M SORRY FOR THOSE WHO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY WE LIVE IN A GENERATION WHERE WE CAN SIT BEHIND A KEYBOARD AND EXPRESS OUR DIFFERENT OPINIONS WITH A FEW STROKES OF OUR FINGERS.

THE AMOUNT OF HATE THREATS I'VE SEEN CAUSED BY THE TIPS OF OUR FINGERS BECAUSE THE MASK ORDINANCE IS DISTURBING TO SAY THE LEAST. WE'VE LOST TOUCH WITH FACE TO FACE CONVERSATIONS. INSTEAD WE READ WORDS THAT HAVE BEEN TYPED BY OTHERS.

TAKE THEM TO HEART AND THEN COME WITH OUR OWN EMOTIONAL INTERPRETATION.

WE DO THIS TO OUR FAMILY. THESE ARE LIFELONG FRIENDS EVEN PEOPLE WE DON'T KNOW.

WE DO THIS WITHOUT SEEING PERSON'S FACIAL EXPRESSIONS TONE OF THEIR VOICE OR BODY GESTURES. ALL THINGS NEEDED TO HAVE A CIVILIZED CONVERSATION.

WHATEVER HAPPENED TO CALLING ONE ANOTHER OR MEETING WITH ONE ANOTHER FOR A CUP OF COFFEE DISCUSS OUR DIFFERENCES. WHAT HAPPENED TO TREATING YOUR FELLOW MAN AS YOU WANT TO BE TREATED? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOW TO FRIENDS FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE LOST ALONG THIS FRUSTRATING JOURNEY OF MASS NO MASK EVEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BIDEN OR TRUMP EVEN THOUGH THE PROCESS OF PEOPLE SAYING HATEFUL THINGS AND THEN BACKING UP WITH COMMENT IT'S MY RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER I WANT TO SAY ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT WE NEED TO REPLACE THOSE HATEFUL WORDS. WHY CAN'T WE JUST SAY LOVING THINGS BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. DAN GUY SAYS IT'S TIME TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOM NOT JUST OUR FREEDOM BUT TO CHOOSE OUR FREEDOM.

THE NEXT ONE SAYS THE MAJORITY OF NEW COIF COVERED CASES ARE PEOPLE WHO WORE MASKS.

THEREFORE MASK DO NOT STOP COVERED . ONLY 6 PERCENT OF THE DEATHS WERE WITHOUT COMORBIDITIES. THE SURVIVAL RATE OF THE 99 IS 99 PERCENT.

ONLY A FRACTION OF THE POPULATION EVEN GETS IT. THEREFORE IT'S MY ASSERTION THAT CONTINUING MASS MANDATES OR ORDINANCE IS AT BEST ILL ADVISED AND NOT HELPFUL.

NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND HAVE WE QUARANTINE THE HEALTHY .

NEVER HAVE WE HAD CRIPPLED OUR ECONOMY ECONOMY OVER A PANDEMIC WITH A SAFE SURVIVAL RATE OF NEARLY NINETY NINE PERCENT. TYRANNY HAS A NEW FACE IT'S CALLED SAFETY BECAUSE NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN JUSTIFY ANY ACTION IN THE NAME OF KEEPING US SAFE. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS PRESENT.

I URGE YOU NOT TO GIVE THOSE WHO WOULD FURTHER RESTRICT OUR FREE FREEDOMS AND PLACE UNDUE BURDENS UPON THE PEOPLE. LET US LIVE AND MAKE HEALTHY DECISIONS FOR OURSELVES.

WE DO NOT ELECT YOU TO TAKE THESE KINDS OF ACTIONS. DID I SEE JUST HEAR SOMEBODY

WHO WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT ONLINE? >> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> I CAN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> MY NAME IS HEATHER BRAGG AND I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN ABOUT SOMETHING NON MASK RELATED RIBAUT ASHLEY SHAKEUP.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT SHE HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AS THE FIRST WOMAN COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THE B FOR COUNTY AND TODAY HAPPENS TO BE NATIONAL BUSINESS WOMEN'S WEEK BY THE WAY. I JUST REALLY QUICKLY WANT TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS AND JUST OVER A YEAR ASHLEY JACOBS CREATED A CENTRAL CASHIER SYSTEM FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY TO ENSURE EFFICIENCY AND TRANSPARENCY IN SPENDING. I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S GREAT AS THE FIRST THE COUNTY'S FIRST BUDGET WAS GETTING COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT HOW OUR COUNTY PLANS TO SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY AND THAT'S COMING FISCAL YEAR.

ASHLEY JACOBS FOUND ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET SAW THAT WORK.

>> SO THIS MONEY WAS BEING ALLOCATED WITHOUT PURPOSE AND WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> ASHLEY JACOBS INSTITUTED PAID SICK LEAVE FOR THE FIRST TIME FOR TONY EMPLOYEES AND WAS WORKING ON A METRIC PATERNITY LEAVE POLICY. SO JACOB SECURED FAIR PAY FOR THE SPECIAL NEEDS ADULTS WHO FOR YEARS HAD BEEN CLEANING TINY BUILDINGS FOR THE MINIMUM

WAGE. >> ASHLEY JACOBS COMPLETED A COMPENSATION TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING PAID WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REGARDLESS OF SEX, RACE, POLITICAL AFFILIATION. PETER ASHLEY JACOBS ENACTED A FACILITY STUDY TO SEE WHAT COULD BE DONE TO OPERATE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT AND TO SAVE MONEY.

ASHLEY JACOBS WAS REVIVING THE DELAYED PENNY SALES TAX REFERENDUM PROJECTS WHICH WERE LEFT IGNORED BY THE FORMER FIRST ON THE BASIS THE BUDGET PUBLISHERS PICK UP SOME ITEMS THAT WERE FINAL AND POSSIBLY MORE ACQUISITIVE HAS ALREADY BROKEN UP AND YES.

>> HELLO. HI. YES, YOU'RE HERE.

GESTURING CAN IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE A THEY'RE THEIR PHONE ON MUTE.

>> AFTER JACOBS IMPLEMENTED SECURITY MEASURES TO PROTECT THE COUNTY'S EXPENSIVE ASSETS

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INCLUDING G.P.S. DEVICES, NEW EQUIPMENT AND KITS DEMANDED THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT END

ACCOUNTABLE. >> WITH OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS VITAL FOR EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTY. WHILE NATIONAL POLITICS ARE CONTENTIOUS AND DIVISIVE, THE LOW COUNTRY DESERVES THE RIGHT TO TRUST OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO OPERATE FOR WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY. UNFORTUNATELY THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS LACKING THE INTEGRITY THAT WE DESERVE. INSTEAD THE RECKLESS AND UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR HAS GONE UNCHECKED FOR TOO LONG. WE DEMAND THAT THE COUNCIL FOCUS ON THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY OPENLY AND

WITH INTEGRITY. >> 30 SECONDS NO MORE GAMES. WE DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY.

WE DEMAND THAT YOU LET WOMEN WORK KILLS. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER CALLS I

WOULD LIKE TO SEE? >> GO AHEAD. >> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> MY NAME IS STANLEY TO BLOCK A HOGAN REGARDING THE MASK MANDATE YOU HAD VOTED JUST TWO WEEKS AGO TO END THIS. I HAVE SENT TO YOUR TO ALL OF YOU RANDOMIZED CONTROLLED TRIAL STUDIES SHOWING THAT NOT WORK TO STOP RESPIRATORY

VIRUSES. >> YOU HAVE COMPLETELY IGNORED THAT SCIENCE GOING BACK ALMOST 20 YEARS KNOWING THAT THE FACTS ARE NOT INTENDED TO STOP A RESPIRATORY VIRUS.

THE ULTIMATE HOPE BACTERIAL INFECTIONS FROM ENTERING A PATIENT'S ROOM WAS LIKE THE ONE WE NEVER INTENDED FOR RESPIRATORY VIRUSES. THAT'S WHY THE STUDIES ALL SHOWED THAT THEY DON'T WORK. THAT IS ALSO WHY DR. FOTI HOPE WHERE ONE WORKS THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER BECAUSE TEAMS OF SCIENCE DID NOT BACK UP WEARING A MASK.

NOT UNTIL THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY CONTROLLED W.A. CHO GOT A HOLD OF SOCHI AND SOME OTHER GOVERNMENT PEOPLE. DID THEY START ADVOCATING FOR THE MAP BECAUSE THEY KNEW IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO CONTROL PEOPLE AND KEEP THEM IN FEAR THAT MEMBERS HAVE SHOWN.

THE IRONY IS WHILE IT IS TRUE IT IS DEADLY FOR THE MASSES WE HAVE.

I AM OVER 50 YEARS OLD IN MY AGE GROUP NINETY NINE POINT FIVE PERCENT SURVIVAL RATE FOR MY TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT. MY PARENTS WHO ARE OVER 70 IS A 95 PERCENT SURVIVAL RATE WHAT WE ARE DOING TO OUR KIDS. IT'S HORRENDOUS. THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR YOUR ANXIETY WHEN THEY GO OUT THEY DON'T SEE PEOPLE SMILE. THEY DON'T EXPRESSION.

THEY SEE FACELESS PEOPLE. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE WILLING NOVEL.

NOTHING WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE IN 20, 30 SECONDS. >> ACTUALLY I HAVE FIFTY THREE SECONDS AS I'M LOOKING ONLINE. I AM ASKING YOU TO USE COMMON SENSE.

LOOK AT THE DATA AND THAT IS THAT I HAVE SENT YOU AND STOP FOLLOWING THE PLAYBOOK AT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. YOU ARE AMERICAN. I HOPE YOU WILL START ACTING

LIKE IT. I AM FINISHED NOW, CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU.

HELLO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. >> YES.

MY NAME IS CHEN NOBLES. I'M A LOCAL PASTOR HERE. BEFORE I JUST WANT TO SAY PLEASE PLEASE USE COMMON SENSE. MY FAMILY HAD THE VIRUS AND WE PLAY WITH THIS VIRUS AND THIS VIRUS IS NOTHING TO PLAY WITH. OVER 8 MILLION PEOPLE RIGHT NOW IN THE UNITED STATES ALONE BE CALLED OUR LEADERSHIP FROM THE TOP ON DOWN. WE'RE NOT T THIS VIRUS SERIOUS.

I HAD MY WIFE HAD MY GRAND MARKET HEAD. MY GRAY KID HAD I HAD 80 PEOPLE TO MY HALF FATHER BE AN EIGHT OUT OF 18 14 PEOPLE. A MAN CAUGHT THE VIRUS AND WE WILL SEE. I KNOW NEVER A SECOND DAY IN MY LIFE, SIR.

AND I'M TELLING YOU PLEASE IF WE DO THAT HE WHAT'S GOING ON IN AMERICA?

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AMERICA WILL BE LOST BECAUSE WE BRING SOME PEOPLE IS SO ARROGANT THEY WANT TO PUT MY LIFE IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO WEAR MASK UNTIL WE GET A VACCINE TO BE ABOUT TO TO HELP US FIGHT THE VIRUS VIRUS JUST LIKE THE FLU VACCINE. WE HAVE TO BE PATIENT AND WE CAN'T RIGHT SOME SCIENTISTS. WE GOT TO DECIDE. WE GOT TO BE PATIENT AND WAIT UNTIL WE GET A VACCINE. UNTIL I'VE HAD THE FLU AND PNEUMONIA AND ALMOST KILLED ME BECAUSE I WAS NOT TAKING THIS FAR IS SERIOUS IS REAL. OVER TWO HUNDRED AND PLUS LIVES HAVE BEEN LAWS BECAUSE AMERICA. A MAN WE LISTEN TO SOMEBODY THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

SO LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS THEY ARE TELLING US PLEASE. FAITH.

WAIT, WAIT. I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAY. I KNOW IT WORKS.

AND WHEREVER THEY SEE THAT YOU OWE ME. I WOULD KEEP MY FAITH.

CAROL, MY WIFE, MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN BE CALLED GREECE BEING WILL KILL YOU.

AND PLEASE PLEASE. COUNCIL PLEASE VOTE. USE COMMON SENSE.

LET'S KEEP THE MATH ON UNTIL WE GET A VACCINE FROM TARGET TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS.

BUT SOMETIMES THE FIGURE IS THE RIGHT DECISION FOR BEFORE. CAN IT BE CALLED? WE WANT TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT ALL PEOPLE LIFE NOT YOUR SON BUT ALL FOUR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN AND COUNCILWOMAN. DON'T YOU EVER LISTEN TO ME.

PLEASE, PLEASE. VOTE TO KEEP THE MAYORS IN, PLEASE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE?

>> HELLO? YES. STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE.

MY NAME IS MELISSA COONEY. >> MELISSA, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF ALL THE CHILDREN IN OUR COUNTY WHO ARE HAVING TO BE FORCED TO WEAR MASKS. I'M CALLING BECAUSE WE NEED TO STOP THIS MASK ORDINANCE AND IT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE A CHOICE. IT SHOULDN'T BE FORCED.

OUR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO SCHOOL BARELY. PRIVATE SCHOOLS ARE STILL GOING TO SCHOOL. THEY ARE WEARING MASKS BUT THEY'RE NOT HAVING OUTBREAKS.

THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS CHILDREN CAN'T GO TO SCHOOL EXCEPT FOR TWO DAYS A WEEK AND NOW THEY'RE ON HYBRID. MY CONCERN IS THE SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL THESE CHILDREN.

AND WHEN DOES THIS END? WHEN DO THEY GET TO GO BACK OUT THE WORLD AND HAVE A NORMAL LIFE AGAIN WORTH PROTECTING PEOPLE WITH IMMUNE COMPROMISED. WE'RE PROTECTING THE ELDERLY BUT NOBODY'S VOICING A CONCERN FOR THE USE DARK COMMUNITY IN OUR COUNTY.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE NEED TO STOP AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.

WHAT IS THE END RESULT? WHEN IS THE END GAME? WHEN DO YOU AS A WHOLE COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU KEEP TRYING TO COME BACK AT THIS LEVEL AND GO IN VOTING.

>> BUT NOBODY IS SAYING WELL WHAT IS THAT ENTITY? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN YOUR MIND? DO YOU THINK THAT TWO WEEKS, TWO MONTHS, TWO YEARS? WHEN IS YOUR END DATE? SO THAT IS REALLY ALL THAT I HAVE TO SAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT A POINT THAT I WANTED TO KNOW WHEN TO SEND.

I WANT TO KNOW WHEN OUR CHILDREN CAN GO BACK TO LIVING. AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT AS A COMMUNITY YOU GUYS ARE THINKING ABOUT OUR YOUTH AND NOT JUST ONE GENERATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. ANY OTHERS?

>> HELLO? YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

HI. MY NAME IS CHRIS BRUCKNER. I HAVE ASTHMA.

AND RECENTLY I HAVE HAD A VERY NEGATIVE ENCOUNTER IN MY COMMUNITY IN WHICH EVERYBODY HAS TURNED AGAINST ME OVER NOT WEARING A MASK BECAUSE I CANNOT DO SO.

>> I HAVE NOT WORN ONE SINCE THIS WHOLE THING STARTED. I HAVE BEEN HOSPITALIZED THREE TIMES AND GONE BY AMBULANCE DUE TO MY ASTHMA CONDITION AND I FEEL LIKE I'M SUFFOCATING WITH A MASK ON. THERE ARE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND SAYING THEY ARE PROTECT USING MASK TO PROTECT ME FROM THIS COVERED DISEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT AT FIRST WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON OR WHAT THE MORTALITY RATE IS.

BUT NOW THAT WE DO KNOW THAT NINETY NINE POINT NINE PLUS PERCENT SURVIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PEOPLE WEIGH THEIR OWN RISK AND DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD LIKE TO USE A MASK. I RECENTLY WAS IN A LOCAL GAS STATION.

I COULD NOT PAY OUTSIDE AT THE PUMP BECAUSE IT FROZE UP. I WALKED IN TO PAY FOR MY GAS

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AND I WAS IMMEDIATELY CONFRONTED BY THE CLERK AND A PATRON WHO WAS LEAVING THE CURSE THAT. AND THEY I WAS CALLED NAMES AND SPAT AT AND THE COMMUNITIES SAID THAT I WAS THE ONE THAT WAS INSTIGATING THE EVENT PRIMARILY WALKING IN WITHOUT A

MASK. >> I JUST THINK WE NEED TO END THIS.

IT'S IT'S TAKING A TOLL ON THE COMMUNITY AND ON PEOPLE THEIR JOBS, BUSINESSES.

AND THERE'S REALLY NO REASON OR SCIENCE THAT BACKS UP FURTHER, YOU KNOW, WARRANTING ANY FUTURE

MANDATES ON THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

MANY OTHERS. SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

[6. MOTION TO RENEW EMERGENCY ORDINANCE 2020/03 ]

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE COMMENTS SECTION. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE ACTION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER SIX A MOTION TO RENEW THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.

I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION AND I HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.

SO WILL SOMEONE MAKE THE MOTION FROM ALL OF US? CHAIRMAN MR. DAWSON MAKES THE

MOTION. >> MAY I HAVE A SECOND, MR. SMITH? MR. SOMERVILLE THAT WAS YOU MAKING THE SECOND? YES.

OK. >> I WOULD ASK THAT A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE. SARAH, COULD YOU PUT UP THE AMENDED ORDINANCE PLEASE? ONE OF THINGS THAT WAS SAID WAS THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE GOVERNMENT OVERREACH IN REVIEWING THIS ORDINANCE. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THERE MAY BE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN HERE THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED. SO I'M SORRY THE WAY WE'VE MOVED ON.

WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE COMMENTS.

>> OK. SO CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE PLEASE? ITEM NUMBER THREE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WE SHOULD REMOVE THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE THAT'S THERE. THAT SAID, ALL SUCH BUSINESSES MUST PROVIDE FACE COVERINGS OR MATERIALS FOR THE MAKING USE OF SPACE MATS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.

SUCH COVERINGS OR MATERIALS MAY BE MADE AVAILABLE TO STAFF WHITE OR INDIVIDUALS UPON EMPLOYEE REQUESTS SO LONG AS THE RESULT IS THE ORGANIZATION WIDE USE OF FACEMASK THAT IS DOES INFRINGING ON THE RIGHTS OF THE BUSINESS TO WE'RE TELLING THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO

PROVIDE MASS THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE. >> THEN WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 9 THE EXCEPTIONS YOU'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT PAGE. ITEM NUMBER NINE ARE THE EXCEPTIONS THE DEFINITION IN ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ALL PERSONS ENTERING ANY COMMERCIAL OR PUBLIC BUILDING OPEN IN THE COUNTY WITH THE EXCEPTIONS NOTED BELOW.

SECTION 9 MUST WEAR A FACE COVERING AND MAINTAIN SOCIAL DISTANCING WHERE POSSIBLE IN ITEM NUMBER 9 WE'RE EXEMPTING YOU ENTERING A CHILD CARE FACILITY.

ANYONE ENTERING A CHILD CARE FACILITY FROM WEARING A MASK AS WELL AS ENTERING THE SCHOOL A CHURCH OR GYMNASIUM. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS WAS INTENDED TO DO.

LIKEWISE PATRONS THAT ARE ACTIVELY CONFUSED CONSUMING FOOD AND BEVERAGES INSIDE A RESTAURANT ARE BAR THAT IS AN EXCEPTION PERSONS ADDING NEW LANGUAGE IN CONSULTATION WITH THEIR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. THE COUNTY DOESN'T MAKE THE DECISION THAT THE PERSON ENTERING A MEDICAL TREATMENT FACILITY HAS THE RIGHT NOT TO WEAR THE MASK.

THE MEDICAL PROVIDER MAKES THAT DECISION. THEY WHAT? ONCE THEY CONSULT WITH THEIR MEDICAL PROVIDER THEY MAY REMOVE THEIR MASK WHILE RECEIVING MEDICAL TREATMENT AND PERSONS ACTIVELY SWIMMING. WE DON'T NEED TO PUT IN IN AN INDOOR SWIMMING POOL BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE SAYING WELL IF YOU'RE SWIMMING IN AN OUTDOOR POOL OR THE OCEAN YOU HAVE TO WEAR A MASK. IT'S IMPLIED THAT IF YOU'RE ACTIVELY SWIMMING YOU DON'T NEED A POOL. SO I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR

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SOMEONE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE AS STATED. QUESTION.

YES, MR. MCGOWAN, WHERE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESSES PROVIDE MATH WITH THOSE.

DID WE ELIMINATE LANGUAGE SAYING WHERE THE EMPLOYER HAD TO PROVIDE A MASK FOR ITS EMPLOYEES OR FOR CUSTOMERS? NO. FOR THE EMPLOYEES NOT THE CUSTOMERS. THE EMPLOYEES THEY WILL DICTATE WHAT THEY WANT FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS. IT'S THEIR EMPLOYEE ESE THAT WE'RE TELLING THEM.

MANDATING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE MASKS THAT THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE MASKS.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING BECAUSE I CAME HERE TO ASK ME HERE.

COULD YOU GO BACK ON THAT? AND WE TELL YOU EMPLOYERS THEY HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY TO

PROVIDE A MASK TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

WE CANNOT FORCE THEM TO MAKE THEIR EMPLOYEES UP THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE MASK.

THEY CAN SAY YOU MUST WEAR A MASK BUT I DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE IT FOR YOU.

THERE ARE GROUPS THAT WILL PROVIDE MASS OR THEY CAN PROVIDE THEIR OWN MASK.

>> IF YOU'RE SO, WILL SOMEONE MAKE THAT AMENDED MOTION OVER CHAIRMAN?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, CHAIRMAN. HOLD ON A SECOND. WE NEED A MOTION IN SECOND AND THEN YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTION. MR. DAWSON HAS MADE THAT MOTION.

I'LL SECOND STEP MR RODMAN HAS MADE THE SECOND. COVER YOUR QUESTION, SIR.

IN THE DOCUMENT THE STRIKING DELETE. YES.

AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOW YOU MUST OWN UNDER THE ILLNESS YOU MUST WEAR AND MASK IN CHURCH.

WHEN YOU ARE GOING INTO CHURCH? YES, BECAUSE YOU ENTERING A PUBLIC BUILDING THE TIME THEN HAS ITS OWN RULES ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT CHURCH AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WILL WEAR A MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCE. HOW DOES IT GO ALONG WITH WHAT THE GOVERNOR REPEALED? A COUPLE MONTHS AGO? I BELIEVE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HE'S DONE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SEEING NONE. I'M SURE THAT WE WILL NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT BEGINNING WITH MR. DAWSON.

>> IT'S FAIR AND JUST ONE QUESTION AND I MAY BE OUT OF ORDER HERE.

YEP. WE'RE ON WHICH ONE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN ABOUT THE FIRST READING

NO, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX. >> THIS IS THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE THAT WE ARE AMENDING . OK, SO WE'RE NOT RENEWING. YES WE ARE.

>> WE'RE RENEWING IT BUT WE'VE MADE CHANGES TO IT. OK.

OK. AND HOW LONG IS IS THIS FOR BY OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS OUR

EMERGENCY ORDINANCE LASTS FOR 60. >> THEY EXPIRE ON THE SIXTY FIRST DAY. WE CANNOT CHANGE THAT. OK, I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT THEY AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE ON SIXTY FIRST DAY. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T MAKE THAT SHORTER. IT JUST CAN'T BE ANY LONGER THAN THAT.

AND AND WITHOUT ANY NOTIFICATION THAT AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRES ON A CERTAIN DAY WE CAN SET ANY DAY WE WANT AS LONG AS IT'S SIXTY ONE DAYS OR LESS PUT ON BOARD.

>> I'M SORRY I DID NOT HEAR YOU. MR. TAYLOR ON BOARD FOR

DECISION TO PUT THEM UP HERE. >> YES, MR. TAYLOR. YES, SIR, I'M HERE.

I AGREE WITH MR. FLAILING, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT PROHIBITS YOU FROM HAVING A SHORTER EXPIRATION DATE. CORRECT. IT JUST CAN'T BE LONGER THAN SIXTY ONE DAYS. AND THAT'S STATE LAW TOO. RIGHT.

KEN, IN ANY DEFINITION FROM A SHORTER THAN 60 DAYS IT AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRES AT THE 60 BIRTHDAY. I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME. YEAH, WE DID.

SO HOPELESS CHAIRMAN IF I COULD CONTINUE JUST THIS. YEAH.

YEAH. YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT AFTER THE LAST VOTE I REFLECTED ON WHERE WE WERE AND THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO DO TWO THINGS. ONE IS AND MY UNDERSTANDING

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OF THE INTENT OF EMERGENCY ORDINANCES IS THAT THEY'RE PUT IN PLACE IN A HURRY BECAUSE IT'S AN EMERGENCY. AND THE SIXTY ONE DAYS ALLOWS TIME FOR A BODY TO TAKE UP A MORE PERMANENT ORDINANCE OR A MORE THOUGHT OUT ORDINANCE. SO WITH THAT IN MIND I HAD SUGGESTED THAT WE PROCEED WITH A NEW ORDINANCE AND I GUESS FIRST READING IS NUMBER SEVEN.

AND THEN SECONDLY SUGGEST THAT WE DO A NUMBER SIX JUST SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GAP.

I'M KIND OF INDIFFERENT AS TO HOW LONG IT GOES ALTHOUGH I TEND TO THINK THAT WE'RE REALLY THE WAY TO DO THIS IS WITH THE FIRST READING AND GET THROUGH THAT IN AN ORDERLY FASHION.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED SIXTY ONE DAYS. I WOULD DIE.

I ACTUALLY THINK A MONTH OR SO WOULD COVER . >> WE ARE WE HAVE MOTION IN SECOND ON THE FLOOR TO AMEND IT AS TAKING OUT CERTAIN LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT

WE'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I CALL THE QUESTION SAYING NONE.

>> MR. DAWSON, YOU MADE THE MOTION THEREFORE YOUR VOTE FIRST.

YES, MY MR. RODMAN VOTE YES, MR. COVERT FOR EVERYTHING GOOD IN HOLY NO.

>> MR. SLOAN. NO. MR. GLOVER NO.

MR. HERVEY SEAN. NOW MISS HOWARD. YES.

MR. LAWSON. >> MARK LAWSON. YES.

MR. MCKELLEN. YES, MR. SOMERVILLE. >> YES.

THE CHAIR VOTES YES 7 YES FOR NO. >> THE MOTION IS AMENDED.

WE'RE BACK AT THE ORIGINAL MOTION NOW FOR THE RENEWAL OF THE MASK FOR THIS PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. YES, SIR. THIS IS AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE . IT REQUIRES A TWO THIRDS SUPERMAJORITY.

DOES THAT NOT ALSO APPLY TO AMENDMENTS? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M NOT SURE

THAT IT APPLIES TO AMENDMENTS. >> IT APPLIES TO THE ORDINANCE. >> IN FACT, IT'S IT IS REQUIRED THAT THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE PASS THE NO MATTER. MOTION THE SAME NUMBER OF VOTES ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT ON MR. TAYLOR. DO YOU AGREE? I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THAT PARTICULAR RULE. I HAD NOT HEARD THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOGLE ROBERT'S RULES OF WATER AMENDING AN ORDER MOTION THAT REQUIRES TWO THIRDS VOTE JUST GOOGLE ADDING C I DON'T HAVE ANY BASIS TO DO DISPUTE MR. FLO WELL.

>> SO IT'S TRUE. >> BACK. >> LET ME SEE IF IT'S IN OUR

OKATIE OK? IN OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES. >> CHAPTER TWO.

NUMBER FIVE VOTING. A VOTE BY A SHOW OF HANDS WILL BE TAKEN IF THERE IS A SINGLE OR MULTIPLE CANDIDATE FOR MEMBERSHIP. A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL DECIDE TO SELECT ITS NOMINEE UNLESS A GREATER NUMBER AFFIRMATIVE VOTES IS NECESSARY UNDER THE TEMPLE AND ORDINANCE THAT'S REGARDING NOMINATIONS FOR FOR FILLING COMMITTEE

ASSIGNED AREA COMMISSION ASSIGNMENTS. >> AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S

ANY OTHER BUT IT'S IN ROBERT'S ROLLS OF WATER OVER AT LAST. >> LET'S SEE.

>> I BELIEVE STATE CODES FOR NINE THIRTY MAY BE THE INSTRUCTION ON EMERGENCY ORDINANCES.

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>> SO THEN THE CHAIRMAN IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE AMENDMENT AND TAKE THE ORDINANCE, THE AMENDMENT DID NOT CAUSE A TWO THIRDS MAJORITY THAT THE ORIGINAL MOTION TOOK.

SO THE AMENDMENT FAILS AND I'M LOOKING AT ROBERTS AS WATER. THIS IS THE HANDOUT REGARDING BOTH ENDS TO AMEND THE MOTION. THIS IS THE PROCESS USED TO CHANGE A MOTION UNDER

CONSIDERATION. >> PERHAPS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND AND THIS REQUIRES A SECOND AFTER THE MOTION TO AMEND IT SECONDED A VOTE A MAJORITY VOTE IS NEEDED TO DECIDE WHETHER THE AMENDMENT IS ACCEPTED. THEN IT'S TAKEN ON THE AMENDED MOTION. THAT'S THE. LET'S SEE THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T HELP ME DOESN'T READ WHAT I HAD HOPED ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

RIGHT. IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT THAT BUT I'VE SEEN IT ELSEWHERE.

YEAH, I DO NOT WEAR IT. I KNOW THAT THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE REQUIRES TWO THIRDS.

I AM NOT SURE THAT ANY AMENDMENTS TO IT REQUIRE TWO THIRDS.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN. APPROPRIATE TO TAKE UP FIVE OR TEN MINUTE RECESS AND SORT THIS OUT AND THEN CONTINUE. WE HAVE IT FIGURED OUT. MR. IF SOMEONE WISHES TO ASK FOR A RECESS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO RECESS TO INSPECT THIS TO GET A CONCERN ABOUT THE DAY.

>> I BELIEVE THE CASE THAT THE PARLIAMENTARIAN MAKES A RECOMMENDATION OR THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OR WHOEVER WE'RE USING FOR PARLIAMENTARIAN MAKES A RECOMMENDATION I BELIEVE.

IT'S THE CHAIRMAN'S CALL IN IN THE YEAR AT THE END OF IT AND THEN COUNSEL IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE CHAIRMAN'S CALL WE CAN CHECK THE CHAIRMAN'S CALL. OH, I THINK I DISAGREE WITH THAT. IS BRIAN IF YOU CONCLUDE THAT FOR EXAMPLE THAT THAT DOES REQUIRE A TWO THIRDS MAJORITY I THINK IT'S ULTIMATELY THE CHAIRMAN'S ALL TO AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH YOU AND MAKE A RULING SADNESS SAY THAT CHAIRMAN RULES AGAINST THE OPPOSITE FROM YOU. THEN I THINK THAT CORRECT PAUL YOU'RE EXACTLY.

YEAH. AND THEN AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY ANYBODY IN COUNCIL WANTS TO CHALLENGE THE CHAIR WHICH YOU KNOW IS ANYBODY'S RIGHT AT ANY TIME TO CHALLENGE THE CHAIR AND

THAT WOULD ONLY REQUIRE A SIMPLE MAJORITY. >> I THINK BRIAN OK.

SO I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS PROPER TO AMEND THE MOTION BY MAJORITY VOTE.

SOMEONE WHO WISHES TO NOW CHALLENGE THAT CAN DO SO. >> I WILL, SIR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION CHALLENGED OVERALL IN THE SECOND, OK. >> EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND? ANYBODY HAVE A COMMENT THAT THEY WISH TO MAKE BEFORE WE VOTE? OK. IT IS A MAJORITY VOTE TO OVER RULE.

THE CHAIR FOLLOWING YOU WERE FIRST OUR VOTE TO OVERRULE THE CHAIR.

AND IT WOULD BE YES. YES. MR. CULVERT .

HI, MR. DALTON. NO. MR. GLOVER.

>> YES. MR. HERVEY SHAWN. YES.

>> MISS HOWARD. NO. MR. LAWSON.

>> MARK WAS A NO. >> MR. MCCLELLAN. NO.

MR. RUDMAN? NO. MR. SOMERVILLE? NO. THE CHAIR SAYS NO. THE MOTION TO OVERRULE THE

CHAIR IS DEFEATED 6 7 NO. 4 YES. >> SOUNDS FAIR.

SO WE ARE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS AMENDED. IT TAKES TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS EMERGENCY ORDINANCE AS AMENDED OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

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>> OK. THE MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. FLOWING.

>> YOU GET TO VOTE FIRST. WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. YEAH.

YOU MADE THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE. >> NO, I DID.

>> YES. >> NO, I DIDN'T. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, NOBODY MADE A MOTION TO THANK YOU FOR THE AMENDMENT CHARGING MR.. MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS COUNCILMAN DAWSON I MADE A MOTION IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE THE THE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE.

OH, I WROTE IT DOWN WRONG. I VOTED IN MR. WELLINGS BOX RATHER THAN YOURS.

AND MR. SOMERVILLE WAS THE SECOND. SO MR. DAWSON, WE WILL BEGIN WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT. I VOTE YES.

MR. SOMERVILLE, IF MR. CULVERT NO MR. FLOWING. >> NO.

>> MR. GLOVER? YES. >> MR. PURVIS.

SHAWN. NO. MISS HOWARD? YES. MR. LAWSON. MORE BLOSSOM?

YES. >> MR. MCKELLEN. YES.

MR. ROBERTSON? YES. CHIP VOTES YES.

YEAH. CHAIR VOTES YES. MR. SOMERVILLE, DID I GET CHEERS? YEAH, I DID. MR. RODMAN CHAIR VOTE YES.

SO IT IS 9:00. YES. TO NO.

THE MOTION IS SUCCESSFUL. >> THAT'S NOT CORRECT. DAY THREE A THREE TO THREE.

OH, I'M SORRY. CAN'T READ MY OWN WRITING. IT IS EIGHT.

[7. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR FACE COVERINGS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AND LOCATIONS IN THE LIMITS OF THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE ]

YES. THREE NO. OK, WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WHICH IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND I CAN'T EVEN FIND MY PAPERS NOW THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THEY DO IT.

YES, OK. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS WEAR A FACE COVERING COVERINGS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AND LOCATIONS IN THE LIMIT OF THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT COUNTY AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MAY I HAVE EMOTION IN SECONDS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.

>> FOOD MR. MR. READ THE MOTION A SECOND. MR. GLOVER MAKES THIS SECOND OK. DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. COVID .

SO LET ME ASKED IS THERE ENDING DATE TO THIS ORDINANCE OR IS IT OPEN ENDED? THE THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES TO BOTH OF THEM. THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC END DATE IN THIS ONE. WHAT THIS ALLOWS IS THE COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE TO MODIFY THIS OR WHETHER IT'S AN END DATE OR ANY OTHER ITEM WITHIN THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE. WE ALL KNOW THAT CODED NINETEEN WILL EVENTUALLY END.

IT WILL ONLY END WHEN WE HAVE THERAPEUTICS AND A VACCINE. WE ARE NOT SURE WHEN BOTH OF THOSE ARE GOING TO TAKE PLACE. THEY MAY TAKE PLACE IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. THEY MAY TAKE PLACE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

SO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO DO IS TO WEIGH IN AS TO HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH FOUR SPECIFIC EVENTS THAT COULD CAUSE PEOPLE TO GET SICK.

THEY WILL BE HALLOWEEN WITH TRICK OR TREATING. THEY WILL BE THANKSGIVING.

THEY WILL BE CHRISTMAS AND THEY WILL BE NEW YEAR'S ON TOP OF THAT.

WE NOW HAVE THE FLU SEASON, THE FLU SEASON HAS PEOPLE IDENTIFYING WITH THE SAME SYMPTOMS. IT'S COLD AT 19. OUR HOSPITALS FIRST RESPONDERS ARE GEARING UP WITH TWO TYPES OF TESTS THAT THEY MUST NOW HANDLE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT A PERSON IS CHECKING IN TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, THEIR DOCTOR'S OFFICE, THE HOSPITAL WITH FEVER

CURES. >> IN THAT INSTANCE, IF THERE WAS AN NDA IS ALL I WANTED TO

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KNOW. >> YEAH. SO THAT'S IT.

>> LET ME ASK THIS. CAN THIS BE INVOKED AT ANY TIME FOR ANYTHING? I'M SORRY. WHAT DO YOU MEAN INVOKED? WELL, COULD THIS YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS SAY A YEAR FROM NOW WE'RE NOT WEARING MASKS BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU KNOW, THE THE HEEBIE JEEBIES DISEASE COMES. CAN THIS BE BROUGHT IN? EVERYBODY WEARS A MASK. IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT IS THAT ALLOWABLE.

I THINK IF ANOTHER PANDEMIC COMES AND THERE ARE EMERGENCY RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT NEED TO BE DONE, THIS COULD BE DONE BUT IT COULD BE AN OPEN. I MEAN JUST BLANKET BOOM.

THE ORDINANCE ON THE BOOK THERE IS NO TIME LIMIT IF I MIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> YEAH, IT IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THIS ORDINANCE SUGGESTS, MICHAEL, THAT THERE WILL BE NO END TO WHERE THE REQUIREMENT TO WEARING FACE MASKS. THANK YOU.

IT COULD BE IT COULD BE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE FAITH THAT MR RUDD LET YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THREE READINGS IN A PUBLIC HEARING TO STOP.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. EXACTLY. I I FIND THIS IT'S AMAZING THAT WE HAVE THE AUDACITY TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO DO THIS. ASIDE FROM WHAT IT IS, ISN'T THE THE THE THE PROCEDURE THE COUNCIL THAT TO GET ON THE TABLE AS A PROPOSED ORDINANCE DOESN'T IT GO THROUGH COMMITTEE ? HE'S POSSIBLY STAFF REVIEW BUT THIS ONE JUST GOES RIGHT TO TWO FULL COUNCIL. I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHY WE'RE CHANGING THE RULES. YOU KNOW, SOMEONE CALLED ME TODAY AND THIS IS THE EXACT THIS IS RULE BY FIAT WE'RE GIVING BY VOTING YES FOR THIS WE ARE GIVING FUTURE OUR COUNCIL FUTURE COUNCILS UNADULTERATED POWER TO MAKE MASK WEARING PERIOD.

I APPRECIATE YOUR MEDICAL ADVICE BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG YOU'RE NOT A DOCTOR.

I'M NOT A DOCTOR. MATTER OF FACT, NOBODY ON THIS PANEL IS A DOCTOR.

WE'VE ALL HEARD THE PROS. YOU'VE ALL HEARD THE COMMENTS. I WEAR A MASK.

THAT'S MY DECISION. IT'S NOT MY DECISION AS A AS A LEGISLATOR, AS A COUNCILMAN TO TELL EVERYBODY WHEN YOU HAVE TO. IF I WAS STILL IN BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE MY BUSINESS DECISION, NOT A COUNCIL, A CRONY COUNCIL WITH TYRANNY.

POWER GRABS IT. IT'S ALL IN THE NAME OF THE GOOD OF THE PUBLIC.

I'M JUST I I REMAIN SHOCKED AND WE HAVE SUFFICIENTLY. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE ENTERED BETTER SLIPPERY THAT WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT. DON'T GO.

DON'T GO DOWN THAT SLIPPERY. WELL, WE ARE ON THAT AND WE'RE FALLING INTO AN ABYSS.

AND I'LL TELL YOU ALL THIS RIGHT NOW. THE PEOPLE ARE ANGRY.

THE PEOPLE ARE MAD. THE PEOPLE ARE PEEVED. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT HERE CALLING FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US TO BE THROWN OUT PHYSICALLY OF OFFICE.

NOW I'VE ONLY GOT 60 DAYS LEFT AND I'M I'M LEAVING ANYWAY BUT I'M TRYING TO JUST TO SPARE YOU. ME AND COUNCILS PRIOR AND COUNCIL THEY HAD THE EMBARRASSMENT THAT WE ARE GOING. WE ARE ON THE ROAD TO TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT. IT'S AMAZING. IT'S AMAZING.

AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. RUDMAN? YEAH.

UNLESS SOMEBODY CORRECTS ME, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN PUT A SUNSET OR WHATEVER PROVISIONS THAT WE WANT FOR SUNSET INTO AN ORDINANCE. SO I I AND MY THOUGHTS ON THIS

IS REALLY PUTTING FORWARD IS TO MIKE'S POINT. >> WE'RE NOT DOCTORS.

WE WEREN'T. WE DON'T KNOW THE EXPERTS YOU YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE VERY EMOTIONAL AND I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE A PERIOD OF TIME AND HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERTS HERE FROM BOTH SIDES AND THEN PUT IN PLACE AN ORDINANCE THAT MAKES SOME SENSE AND PROVISION THAT IT HOW WE PHASE OUT OF IT WHEN THE TIME

COMES. >> I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE EXTENSION TO CONTINUALLY EXTENDING AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE WAS PROBABLY THE WRONG THING TO DO.

BUT IN ANY EVENT THIS IS THE WAY I'M THINKING IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO THIS AND THIS THEN REPLACE THE EMERGENCY ONE WHENEVER WE AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD AT A REASONABLE REASONABLE SCHEDULE OVER OUR NEXT COUPLE MEETINGS AND I

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THINK WE'LL WIND SOMETHING THAT'S BETTER THAN JUST A KNEE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.

>> MR. BILL OWENS, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, STU. I APPRECIATE THAT EXPLANATION.

BUT THE PROBLEM FOR ME AND THE REASON I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS IS UNAMENDED WITHOUT THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THE THE ORDINANCE CONTRADICTORY ON ITS FACE TO THE CESSATION OF OUR CURRENT PROBLEM. IN OTHER WORDS, ONCE THIS CURRENT ISSUE IS NO LONGER FOREFRONT THAT WHEREAS CLAUSES THAT THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE

THIS HOUR ARE MOOT. >> THERE ARE NO LONGER VALID AND IT'S STILL GOING TO TAKE A MINIMUM OF FORTY FIVE DAYS I WOULD SUGGEST IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO TWO MONTHS FOR US TO REMOVE THIS. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S SO VAGUE.

I JUST CAN'T DO IT. I JUST CAN'T VOTE FOR IT. I UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR. I URGE ALL THE CITIZENS OF COUNTY TO WEAR A FACE MASK WHEN YOU GO INTO A PUBLIC PLACE. I WILL BE DOING IT AND I HOPE YOU WILL TOO. JUST PLEASE MY ARGUMENTS HERE ARE NOT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD WEAR A FACE THAT ARGUMENTS ABOUT WHETHER YOU ARE REQUIRED TO WEAR ONE.

DIFFERENT STORY ALTOGETHER. THANK YOU. >> AND THE OTHER COMMENTS

SAYING NONE WILL CALL THE QUESTION JUST MISS FORM. >> YES, MISS.

I'M SORRY. >> YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THIS IS UP THERE.

I CAN'T SEE YOU BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY A FEW PEOPLE ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN.

I APOLOGIZE. NO, I'M FINE, SEAN. GO AHEAD.

>> I UNDERSTAND I'VE BEEN THERE. LOOK, MISS BROCK, IF YOU CALL I SENT YOU EARLIER. I'D APPRECIATE IT. I WAS FEELING RATHER AMBITIOUS THIS AFTERNOON SO I PUT TOGETHER A STATEMENT WHICH I HAVE NEVER EVER DONE BACK THE LAST TIME PUT TOGETHER A STATEMENT WAS IN FIFTH GRADE. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

BUT I FEEL THAT THIS IS A GROSS OVERREACH OF POWER, FRANKLY. >> BUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS I'VE HEARD FIVE REASONS WHY WE SHOULD HAVE A MASK ORDINANCE IN PLACE.

NUMBER ONE, THE SCIENCE IS CLEAR THE MASS WORK. NUMBER TWO, WE NEED A UNIFORM MASKING LAW ACROSS THE COUNTY AND MUNICIPALITIES. NUMBER THREE, VOTING NO IS JUST POLITICS. NUMBER FOUR, IT'S EASY TO WEAR A MASK AND IT MAKES ME FEEL

SAFE. >> THESE ARE ALL VALID CONCERNS, NOT JUST NOT DISPUTING. HOWEVER, FIRST I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE STATEMENT SCIENCE AS THE LAST WORD. AS I SAID THE LAST TIME WE VOTED ON AN ORDINANCE I'M ASKING CHRIS. CHRIS? YES.

THIS IS COUNCILMAN DAWSON. I DO APOLOGIZE. WE INTERRUPTING MY COMPUTER BATTERY IS GOING DEAD AND I'M ABOUT TO LOSE CONNECTION HERE. SO LET SLIP THE CHAIR.

NO, I'M STILL I'M VOTING IN FAVOR JUST IN CASE I CAN'T GET BACK IN WITH YOU GUYS.

>> THAT'S THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT . >> MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE ON THE

TV. >> HELLO. DULY NOTED.

OK. TAVIS, CAN CONTINUE. I DO APOLOGIZE.

IT'S LIKE I DON'T. NO. ALL RIGHT.

WHERE WAS I? OK, SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE STATEMENT THAT SCIENCE SAYS THE MASS WORK. AS I SAID THE LAST TIME WE VOTED ON AN ORDINANCE THERE IS

SO-CALLED SCIENCE ON BOTH SIDES . >> WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN NOW IS AN OP ED TO THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE BY FOUR DOCTORS ONE FROM HARVARD IN RESPONSE TO A PAPER THAT THEY THEMSELVES PUBLISHED EARLIER IN THE SUMMER.

>> THEIR ORIGINAL PAPER SAID AND I QUOTE WEARING A MASK OUTSIDE HEALTH CARE FACILITY OFFERS LITTLE IF ANY PROTECTION FROM INFECTION. END QUOTE.

HOWEVER, THE OP ED WAS TO CLARIFY THEY STATE AT THE END THERE WE THEREFORE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE CAUSE OF PUBLIC HEALTH AGENCIES FOR ALL PEOPLE TO WEAR MASKS WHEN CIRCUMSTANCES COMPEL THEM TO BE WITHIN SIX FEET OF OTHERS FOR SUSTAINED PERIODS.

THE KEY HERE IS WHERE IS WHERE NO SOCIAL DISTANCING IS POSSIBLE FOR A SUSTAINED PERIOD OF TIME. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SECOND, WE HAVE THE MARS STUDY BY THE LANCET WHICH WAS COMMISSIONED BY THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION AND

PUBLISHED BACK IN JUNE. >> I BELIEVE THE CONCLUSION DRAWN FROM THIS STUDY BY MANY MEDIA OUTLETS. HOWEVER, AS NOTED IN THE ISOLATED AREAS, THE STATISTICS WOULD SEEM TO SUGGEST OTHERWISE THAT MASKING WORKS THE HIGHLIGHTED AREAS ARE ONE PHYSICAL DISTANCING OF LESS THAN ONE METER MODERATE CERTAINTY PHYSICAL DISTANCING OF MORE THAN ONE METER MODERATE CERTAINTY USE OF FACE MASK GENERALLY CLOSE CERTAINTY USE OF DISPOSABLE OR SURGICAL MASKS LOW CERTAINTY USE OF EYE PROTECTION LOW CERTAINTY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIRD, WE HAVE A STUDY CONDUCTED BY THE CDC ON 19 INFECTIONS AS THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA SHOWS SEVENTY POINT SIX PERCENT OF THOSE INFECTED WORE

A MASK ALWAYS. >> NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE ARE THE CASE COUNT TRENDS FOR BOTH JASPER COUNTY AND BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR SC. JASPER COUNTY IS AN IMMEDIATE

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NEIGHBOR TO COUNTY. JASPER COUNTY HAS NO MASK ORDINANCE AND HASN'T HAD ONE.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE CASE COUNT TRENDS ARE ROUGHLY THE SAME. JASPER COUNTY ON TOP.

WEAVER COUNTY ON THE BOTTOM. SECOND. >> I HEAR THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A UNIFORM FACE MASK ORDINANCE ACROSS THE COUNTY. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IS A CHART OF THE VARIOUS ORDINANCES ACROSS THE COUNTY AS WELL AS NEIGHBORING COUNTIES.

I WOULD ARGUE ARGUE WE DO NOT HAVE NOR HAVE WE EVER HAD A UNIFORM ORDINANCE.

FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS NO PENALTY WHATSOEVER FOR COUNTY FOR FAILING TO WEAR A MASK ON HILTON HEAD. THE PENALTY IS A CIVIL INFRACTION FINE UP TO 500 HOURS AND POSSIBLE JAIL TIME. THAT IS A STARK CONTRAST. TO DATE THE SHERIFF HAS RESPONDED 60 CALLS FOR SERVICE. THIRTY TWO OF WHICH WERE ON PHILLIP ISLAND.

FURTHERMORE, THERE IS NO UNIFORM APPLICATION WHEN IT COMES TO CHILDREN.

THE AGES RANGE FROM TWO YEARS OLD TO WHAT QUOTE UNQUOTE WHATEVER THE PARENT FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH. THIRD A YEAR VOTING NO IS JUST POLITICS.

IT IS NOT MY OPINION IS BASED ON MY OWN INDEPENDENT THOUGHT AND ANALYSIS WHICH IS HOPEFULLY BECOMING EVIDENT BY NOW. FOURTH HERE WEARING A MASK IS EASY.

WEARING A MASK IS NOT EASY FOR EVERYBODY. AS A CONSTITUENT RECENTLY WROTE TO US ALL AND I QUOTE PLEASE STOP THE MASK MANDATES. MY CHILDREN HAVE DEVELOPED ANXIETY AND MOUTH THRUSH. I SEE KIDS WALKING AROUND WITH SKIN PROBLEMS FROM THE MASKS.

HOW ABOUT DEPRESSION? DID I MENTION THAT? PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE.

THIS CITIZEN RAISES SEVERAL GREAT POINTS. WHAT ABOUT OUR CHILDREN WHO CAN NO LONGER SEE THE EXPRESSION ON ADULTS FACE? FIFTH, I HEAR IT MAKES ME FEEL SAFE AS I JUST OUTLINED. THERE IS NO PENALTY FOR NOT WEARING A MASK IN UNINCORPORATED BUTTE COUNTY. NONE. THERE IS VERY LITTLE IF ANYTHING THAT CAN BE CONSTRUED AS A COMPELLING CITIZENS TO COMPLY WITH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE. TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR, IF YOU ARE HIGH RISK OR IF YOU ARE WEARING A MASK MAKES YOU FEEL SAFE WEAR A MASK. IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS OWNER AND YOU WANT TO REQUIRE PATIENTS TO WEAR A MASK PLEASE DO SO. IF YOU ONLY WANT TO PATRONIZE BUSINESSES THAT REQUIRE MASS OF ALL CUSTOMERS AND EMPLOYEES PLEASE DO THAT TO I HAVE ASKED ON EVERY OCCASION AND DO SO HERE TODAY. WHAT METRICS ARE WE GOING TO AGREE TO IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE MASK MANDATE? IT'S BEEN SAID THAT WE WILL REMOVE THE MANDATE WHEN WE HAVE A VACCINE. THREE QUESTIONS.

DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE? NO. HAS THERE EVER BEEN A VACCINE FOR A CORONAVIRUS? NO. WE FORCE PEOPLE TO GET THE VACCINE. NO. TO ME LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT TWO THINGS. ONE, MAKING TOUGH DECISIONS BASED ON FACTS AND DATA AND TO PROVIDING A VISION FOR THE FUTURE. IN MY VIEW THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN PROVIDED WITH INCOMPLETE DATA AT BEST AND AT WORST HAS IGNORED THE DATA BY BRINGING THIS TO A VOTE YET AGAIN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T LIKE THE ANSWER LAST TIME.

THE VISION WE ARE PROVIDING IS ONE OF DISORGANIZATION AND CONTROL OF A MASS SOCIETY.

IN MY VIEW WHAT YOU DON'T NEED IS BIG GOVERNMENT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO DO IT.

I THINK YOU CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR YOURSELF. AS A FINAL THOUGHT REGARDLESS OF WHICH WAY THIS VOTE GOES. BE EMPATHETIC TO EACH OTHER. EVERYBODY IS GOING THROUGH A TOUGH TIME AND I MEAN EVERYBODY NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR PUBLIC SHAMING.

PUBLIC SHAMING IS NOT HELPFUL AND IT IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE. LIKE MR. SHARON GIVES US ANY OTHER COMMENTS. OK, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING WE WILL HAVE A SECOND READING AND WE WILL HAVE A THIRD READING AND A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

>> ALONG THE WAY THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. THERE IS A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT ARE APROPOS. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE SAFE. WE WANT TO DO IT IN THE MOST EQUITABLE, EFFICIENT MANNER. AND DO I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR US WHEN THIS IS GOING TO BE OVER? NO. BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE PROBABLY BEFORE YOUR TIME BECAUSE I'M SHOWING MY AGE NOW. WE WENT THROUGH POLIO, WE WENT THROUGH MEASLES. THOSE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT WE WENT THROUGH WHEN I WAS A KID THAT HAD A DRAMATIC IMPACT ON SOCIETY AND THE WAY WE FUNCTIONED.

SO YEAH. THESE ARE TOUGH TIMES. OK.

WITH THAT THE MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. MCKELLEN. SO YOU WILL VOTE FIRST.

THIS IS FOR FIRST READING. YES. >> MR. GLOVER, YOU WERE SECOND

. YES. >> MR. COVID .

NO, NO, NO. MR. DAWSON IS ABLE TO COME BACK ON.

I KNOW WE WANTED TO JUST SAY YES, BUT HE IS NOT PRESENT TO VOTE.

MR. FLOWING? NO. HEARD THE SHOT?

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NO. OH, MISS HOWARD. >> YES?

MR. LAWSON. MARK WAS IN FIRST READING. >> YES.

MR. MCKELLEN HAS ALREADY VOTED MY VOTE YES. >> YES, MR. GOODMAN? YES, MR. SOMERVILLE. YES. AND THE CHAIR VOTES YES OF THE TEN PEOPLE VOTING. IT IS EIGHT. YES.

TWO NO. FIRST READING IS ADOPTED. WE WILL HAVE THE SECOND READING

WHEN COUNCIL MEETS IN-BETWEEN TIME WE WILL GET RECAP. >> WE CALCULATE DANCER.

>> YEAH. THOUGHT IT WAS SEVEN I I'M SORRY SEVEN TO THREE.

THANK YOU. SHOULD WE COUNT MR. DAWSON'S VOTE? NO. HE WAS NOT HERE TO OFFICIALLY VOTE SO HIS VOTE CAN BE COUNTED

JUST AS AN UNDER AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. >> SO THIS WAS NOT A CHARITY.

MAJORITY OF COUNCIL VOTED YES. OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

[8. AMENDMENT TO THE 2020-2021 BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET ORDINANCE ]

OK. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 8 AN AMENDMENT TO THE TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY ONE BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET ORDINANCE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE ORDINANCE PLEASE? NO MOTION FOR SUMMARY WITH CHAIRMAN MR. HERVE ISHAN MADE

THE MOTION. >> OH I CAN PLEASE MR. GLOVER WITH YOU FOR A SECOND.

YES. OKAY. THIS IS A MOTION TO AMEND TWENTY ONE BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET ORDINANCE ON DOOLEY MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION IF

I MIGHT MR. CHAIRMAN. >> YES, MR. FURLONG, YOUR ACTIONS HERE ARE ARE IN ORDER

TO. >> I'M HAVING A HARD TIME THERE .

SOMEBODY ELSE SOMEBODY ELSE'S SPEAKER IS ON HIM AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME DOING THIS.

>> BUT IF IT SEEMS. >> YEAH. CAN YOU CUT OFF 5 1 3 THAT

PERSON IS CALLED IN. >> THERE. THANK YOU.

THANK HAD MR. FLOWING YOUR YOUR ACTION IN APPROVING THIS MOTION AND THIS CHANGE TO OUR BUDGET IS IT SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A PENDING LAWSUIT FOR A WRIT OF MANDAMUS AGAINST THE ORDERED AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE APPROVING THIS IN ORDER TO PROCEED WITH THE LAWSUIT WHEN IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE MAKE THE VERY SMALL CHANGE THAT'S NECESSARY BY ADDING 1 MILL WE'D COLLECT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S ALREADY IN THE TAX BILLS THAT ARE BEING PRINTED OUT IN THE PROCESS TO HAVE YOUR TAX BILL WON'T BE WAITING UNTIL NOVEMBER.

>> IN THE MEANTIME, I BELIEVE YOU CAN PAY YOUR TAX BILL THAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE ON IN PUBLIC AND WHICH WILL REQUIRE THEN FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING A REFUND OR RETURN OF SOME KIND OF MONEY AND CALCULATION OF ALL THAT. IT'S JUST IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER FOLKS TO JUST CHANGE THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS COUNTY PURCHASE PROPERTY TO FIVE POINT TWO AND CALL IT A DAY AND MAKE THE APPROPRIATE CHANGES NEXT YEAR.

>> BRIAN I BELIEVE YOU MEAN FIVE POINT EIGHT NOT FIVE POINT TWO.

>> YOU'RE CORRECT FIVE POINT EIGHT BECAUSE THAT DOES MATCH THE BILL.

AND THE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL IS THE BILLS ARE SET. SO IT IS SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TOTAL FOR THE BILL'S WHEN COUNCIL PROPOSED THE BUDGET. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A NEUTRAL QUOTE UNQUOTE BUDGET. AS FAR AS REVENUES WERE IN, THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE CASE BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE THAT WAS MADE ALONG THE WAY. IF YOU RECALL, MR. CHAIRMAN, I ASKED WHAT THE MOE VALUE THERE WAS CHARGED IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

IT WAS SIXTY FIVE POINT THREE. SO NEUTRAL WOULD BE SIXTY FIVE POINT THREE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WAS THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO.

>> AND SO WHAT YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS A REDUCTION. I I YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT.

YEP. YEP. >> YEP.

THAT IS FAIR POINT BRIAN. IT WAS ACTUALLY SIXTY FIVE POINT THREE EIGHT WEEKS THAT

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WAS APPROVED SO SO NEUTRAL WOULD BE WHAT WE HAD APPROVED IN.

THE ONLY CHANGE IS THAT WE THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IS THAT WE IF WE INCREASE THE RURAL CRITICAL LANDS COUNTY PURCHASE PROPERTY TO FIVE POINT EIGHT. YOU SAY YES.

YES. YES. YES.

AND WE THEN YOU KNOW THAT A SIDE NOTE IS WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE NOT LEGAL AUTHORITY OR WHEN WE'RE SETTING UP THE BUDGET SINCE THE AUDITOR DETERMINES THE MILLAGE RATE FOR DEBT SERVICE THAT SHOULD THAT BE ACTUALLY PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET THAT WE'RE APPROVING OR SHOULD WE BE APPROVING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR OPERATIONS

? RIGHT. >> SO THE.

SO ULTIMATELY APPROVING THIS CHANGE THAT YOU ARE ADVOCATING NOW IS JUST IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SUE THE AUDITOR. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS POWER PLAY BETWEEN ELECTED OFFICIALS . I JUST DON'T GET IT WHY WE'RE USING WHY WE'RE HIRING ATTORNEYS TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE SAID WE WANTED A NEUTRAL BUDGET THAT POINT OUT THAT OTHER OTHER I DON'T KNOW

FIRST SWAYING IN THIS POLL. >> I DON'T I'M TRYING TO THINK THE WRIT OF MANDAMUS HAS MULTIPLE AT LEAST TWO ITEMS ON IT. SO I'M NOT SURE I SEE A CONNECTION BETWEEN THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE AND THE LAWSUIT.

SO I MEAN MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING THAT'S ALWAYS POSSIBLE.

WAS A MANDAMUS THIS WOULD BE JUST ADDED TO THE CURRENT WRIT OF MANDAMUS THAT IS BEING DONE

IN THE COURTS. >> YEAH. >> RIGHT.

IT'S IT'S AN ADD ON IT BUT IT YOU GET WRIT OF MANDAMUS DOESN'T CHANGE.

ALL RIGHT. AGAIN MAYBE I MISSED YOU. >> YEAH.

AND I WILL TELL YOU MR. PHILLIP WALLING HAS A VALID POINT IN WHEN WE ACTUALLY APPROVED THE ORDINANCE BACK IN JUNE FOR THE FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE. THE TOP PORTION SAID 60 FIVE POINT TO TWO AND AND THEN IT WAS SAID NO, THAT'S A MISTAKE BECAUSE THE AUDITOR HAD DECREED THAT NO LONGER CAN YOU HAVE HUNDREDS. YOU CAN ONLY HAVE TENSED AND THAT THE THE COMPILATION OF THE NUMBERS DID NOT EQUAL THAT BY ONE MILL.

AND THAT WAS THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY. OK.

LET ME EXPLAIN IT THIS WAY. WE ASKED THIS YEAR FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR TO BRING BACK A NEUTRAL BUDGET JUST THE SAME EXACT ONE THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND SHE DID THAT.

IT WAS SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TWO AND TWENTY NINETEEN. IT WAS SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TO HERE. YES, THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE THE HUNDREDTHS COLUMN.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD HUNDREDS BUT IN 2019 WE AUTHORIZED COLLECTION OF SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO. IT ACTUALLY ENDED UP BEING BECAUSE OF A DIFFERENCE IN THE AUDITORS CALCULATION OF THE DEBT MILLAGE SIXTY FIVE POINT THREE AND THIS YEAR THE OVERALL BUDGET WAS SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TO SHOULD BE SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO.

THE ONLY CHANGE THAT'S NECESSARY IS FOR US TO AMEND AMEND A COLUMN THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY WHETHER IT'S RURAL CRITICAL LANDS FOUR OR FIVE POINT EIGHT OR IF THE AUDITOR DETERMINED THAT IT WAS FIVE POINT SIX. THAT'S NOT REALLY FOR US TO DECIDE. WE'RE ONLY RECORDING WHAT HAS BEEN CALCULATED BY THE AUDITOR.

WE NEED TO JUST OUT OF THIS. LET LET THE CHIPS GO. WE'RE ONLY MAKING THIS CHANGE SO THAT WE CAN CARRY ON WITH THE LAWSUIT AND DON'T PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG THAT THE WRIT OF MANDAMUS HAS NOTHING TO DO. PLEASE TELL ME. KURT, TELL ME I'M WRONG THAT WE'RE NOT SUING HIM TO GET HIM TO CHANGE THAT. THAT THAT REALLY HAS NOT BEEN

CALCULATED. ALL RIGHT. >> OK.

ON THE TABLE FOR ACTION IS DID SOMEONE HAVE QUESTION ANOTHER PHONY AND I BELIEVE SIR.

OK, AND TAKING CIVILIANS RIGHT NOW AS A GANG MEMBER I'M SORRY ,MR. RODMAN.

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>> YEAH, I GOT AGAIN BECAUSE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS I CAN'T SEE WHO IS ASKING TO SPEAK.

MR. RODMAN. YEAH. >> I THINK I GOT A LITTLE CONFUSED LAST AND PROBABLY CONFUSED AGAIN. I THINK I'M NOT I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO PAPERWORK WISE TO SET THE AMOUNT EQUAL WHAT'S IN THE TAX BILLS AND IF I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION FROM BEFORE WE WERE HUNG UP ON WHETHER IT WAS A TAX INCREASE AND I THINK I CONCLUDED THAT IT WAS NOT A TAX INCREASE BECAUSE THE ITEM IN QUESTION THE RULE CRITICAL IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROVED BY THAT BY THE VOTERS.

AND SO IF YOU TREAT THAT AS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, EVERYTHING ELSE SEEM TO STAY WITHIN OUR WANTING TO HAVE NO TAX INCREASE. I'M IN FAVOR OF JUST DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO PAPERWORK WISE THAT MATCH THE BILLS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PRODUCED. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I GUESS I DO HAVE ONE

CONTINUING POINT OF CONFUSION. >> THE THE BEGINNING OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND DEBT WATCH AND THAT HAD I ASSUME THAT STARTED IN OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT A NUMBER OF FOUR POINT EIGHT WAS GENERATED.

I'M ASSUMING I CAN'T IMAGINE WHERE IT CAME OUT OF THIN AIR. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT SOMEBODY IN OUR FINANCE SEVERAL SOMEBODIES IN OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE PRICE DEPARTMENT EXCUSE ME LOOKED AT THE RECORD THE BOND THE BOND REQUIREMENTS FOR FOR THE F F WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT AND SAID HERE'S THE HERE'S THE AMOUNT WE NEED TO COVER THE FULL PAYMENTS FOR QUARTERLY PAYMENTS. AND HERE'S THE VALUE OF THE MILL.

AND HERE'S THE NUMBER OF MILLS WE NEED TO MEET THAT IS FOUR POINT EIGHT.

IF THAT'S WRONG MY WHOLE THINKING IS WRONG. AND THEN IT WENT TO THE AUDITOR AND THE AUDITOR AS I UNDERSTAND IT DIDN'T MAKE THAT CALCULATION NECESSARILY.

HE DID HE DID HE MAKE THAT CALCULATION AGAIN? OR DID HE JUST SIMPLY LOOK AT THE NUMBERS SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TWO AND SAY HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT NUMBER. AND WITH THAT WITH TOTAL DISREGARD TO THE NUMBER THAT CAME OUT OF FINANCING IT THAT THAT BROKE PRETTY FOR SURE BEFORE.

THAT'S WHERE I'M REALLY LOST MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SITUATION WAS THAT HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. I FORGET WHAT THEY CALL IT A REFUND NOT A REFUND A PREMIUM A

PREMIUM THAT WAS DUE TO THE COUNTY. >> HE WAS NOT TOLD ABOUT THAT.

AND SO CALCULATED IT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THE IN THE FUND AND THE NEW PAYMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED IN MARCH AND BELIEVE AUGUST OF NEXT YEAR.

AND SO IN ORDER TO KEEP THE BALANCE ABOVE ZERO. HE CHANGED THAT TO FIVE POINT EIGHT WHICH CONVENIENTLY ADDED UP TO THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO THAT WE HAD AUTHORIZED AND SO DIDN'T HAVE TO MESS WITH ANY OTHER NUMBERS JUST CHANGE THAT ONE NUMBER AND WITHIN HIS AUTHORITY TO COLLECT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HE THOUGHT WAS NECESSARY FOR FOR FOR A PAYMENT OF BONDS AND CALLED IT A DAY. SO IT'S TRUE.

>> BUT I THOUGHT I THOUGHT THAT IT WASN'T THE WAY IT WAS THE AUDITOR HIMSELF WAS BIG INTO IT. I THOUGHT HE WAS SAYING THAT HE HE LOOKED AT THE RESERVE THE RESERVE BALANCE IN THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND FUND AND HE MADE A DETERMINED ACTION THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH MONEY IN THERE SO THAT THAT THE MONEY THAT THAT THE THE DEBT MILLAGE FOR FOR PURCHASED PROPERTY RURAL CRITICAL COULD BE COULD BE THIS.

BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT HE EXCEEDED HIS AUTHORITY TO MAKE A DISCRETIONARY CALL BASED ON THE FUND BALANCE THAT HE LOOKED AT IN THE RURAL CRITICAL.

YEAH MAYBE. ISN'T HIS AUTHORITY. I I MY IMPRESSION WAS IT WAS NOT MY MY RECOLLECTION OF IT WAS THAT HE LOOKED AT IT AND WITHOUT THE PREMIUM THERE WAS A

THERE WOULD BE A NEGATIVE BALANCE IN IN THE RESERVE. >> THERE WOULD BE A NEGATIVE AMOUNT NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THE PAYMENTS BUT WITH THE PREMIUM WE LEARNED FROM HAYES WILLIAMS THAT THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY AND HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT AT THE TIME.

BUT AGAIN I'M JUST I'M GONNA VOTE NO YELLOW WHATEVER WAY YOU WANT.

COUNCILMAN WALLING, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND WHAT IS ON THE TABLE TO

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CHANGE THAT TO SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO SO THAT THE TOP AND BOTTOM NUMBERS ARE EQUAL? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THIS IS THIRD AND FINAL READING.

NO, SIR. THIS SETS IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BEGINNING BECAUSE THE WHOLE POINT OF IT WAS TO TWO TO CHANGE WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY PASSED.

AND SO THIS REALLY STARTS THE WHOLE PROCESS AT THE BEGINNING AND I'M WILLING TO DO THAT.

BUT I YOU I DOUBT THE SUCCESS OF IT. I'LL TRY.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AMEND THIS SO THAT THE AMOUNT TO BE COLLECTED STAYS SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO AND WE CHANGE THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND MONEY MILLAGE TO

FIVE POINT EIGHT. OK. >> SECOND I'LL SECOND BUSINESS.

MR. RUDMAN, YOU'LL MAKE THE SECOND ON THAT, OK? >> IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? YEAH. I MEAN I WOULD POINT IF IF THIS CHANGES IF IT'S MATERIAL ENOUGH I THINK THIS WOULD THEN BECOME SECOND READING.

>> WE SOUGHT TO DO ONE MORE. I DON'T START OVER AGAIN AND RAPE THAT OK.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION OF MR. TAYLOR. >> YES, MR. COLLINS.

GO AHEAD. CAROL IS STILL WITH YES, SIR. WE HAVE STATUTORY AUTHORITY OVERRULE THE ORDER WITH REGARD TO SETTING DEBT MILLAGE THE AUDITOR BY STATUTE SETS THE

DEBT MILLAGE. >> HOWEVER, IT IS NOT A DISCRETIONARY ACT PURSUANT TO SUPREME COURT CASE AND ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINIONS. IT IS MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION BASED UPON THE DEBT SERVICE THAT'S ESTABLISHED WHEN THE BONDS ARE SOLD.

RIGHT. >> SO ARE WE ASSUMING HE SAID IT CORRECTLY OR WE ASSUME HE

SAID IT INCORRECTLY AND WE'RE TAKING ACTION TO CORRECT THAT? >> WELL, THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS HAD ON FIRST READING AND IN EARLIER WAS THAT THE THERE WAS NOT A NEED IS NOT A NEED FOR FIVE POINT EIGHT MILLS THAT THAT WILL ACTUALLY BRING IN MORE MONEY THAN IS NECESSARY AND THAT STAFF IN LOOKING AT THE DEBT SERVICE TABLES FOR THE EXISTING DEBT AND THE NEW DEBT THAT WAS ISSUED THIS SUMMER CAME UP WITH THE FOUR POINT EIGHT MILLS AS BEING A THE

APPROPRIATE NUMBER. >> NOW I RECALL THE ORDER SAYING WHEN HE SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THE REASON HE MADE THE CHANGE WAS THAT HE HEARD FROM MS. JACOBS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE A 20 PERCENT REVENUE SHORTFALL AND THAT THAT'S WHY HE MADE THE CHANGE TO FIVE POINT EIGHT MIL. NOW OF COURSE YOU HEARD MS. JACOBS SAY THAT THERE WAS NEVER A WORKING ESTIMATE BASED UPON FIVE POINT EIGHT MILLS OR SCUSE ME AS A 20 PERCENT REVENUE LOSS

AND THAT THAT HAD NEVER BEEN A WORKING ASSUMPTION. >> SO FOR MR. BECKER TO MAKE A CHANGE BASED UPON A HYPOTHETICAL THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE FOLLOWS THE LAW.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THIS ACTION TO GET

EVERYTHING IN BALANCE. >> I BELIEVE YOU DO. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. TAYLOR, I APPRECIATE THAT OBSERVATION.

CHAIRMAN IS PAUL AGAIN? >> YES. HERE'S WHERE I AM.

I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS TO KINGDOM COME ANY MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE DOES.

BUT HERE'S HERE'S WHERE I AM ON THIS. I BELIEVE THAT THE AUDITOR MADE THE DECISION CHANGE IT FROM FOUR POINT EIGHTY FIVE POINT. THERE'S NO NOBODY DISAGREES WITH THAT. THE IS WHETHER HE DID THE RIGHT THING OR THE WRONG THING.

I MY POSITION IS THAT HE DID THE WRONG THING BECAUSE IF HE DID IT FOR THE PURPOSE THAT THAT KURT JUST MENTIONED BECAUSE YES, HE DID I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER HIM SAYING IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT HE HE OVERHEARD OR HEARD OR WHATEVER FROM FROM THE ADMINISTRATOR THAT THAT THAT THERE MIGHT BE A SHORTFALL OF UP TO 20 PERCENT AND HE AND HE AND HE FACTOR THAT INTO HIS DECISION WHICH WHICH WHICH IN MY MIND WAS BEYOND HIS AUTHORITY TO START

WITH. >> AND SECONDLY THAT IT WAS INCORRECT.

IT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL THAT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE CORRECT. SECONDLY SECONDLY, I UNDERSTAND

THAT THE LEGAL LANGUAGE AUTHORIZING THE VERB. >> THE OTHER WAS THAT NOISE IS WHOEVER IT WOULD PLEASE STOP DOING IT. THERE I UNDERSTAND THE AUDITORS AUTHORITY IS TO LEVY A MILLAGE A SUFFICIENT MILLAGE, NOT AN EXCESSIVE MILLAGE.

AND THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT THIS IS AN EXCESSIVE MILLAGE.

I MEAN HE SAW IT MAYBE BEING TIGHT. IF I AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY WHAT HE DID IT BECAUSE OF THE 20 PERCENT ASSUMPTION OR WHETHER HE'S BACK TRYING TO SET A SUFFICIENT MILLAGE EITHER WAY I SAY NO, HE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WHAT HE'S SETTING AT FIVE POINT EIGHT IS IS NOT SUFFICIENT. IT'S EXCESSIVE AND MOM IN MY VIEW. SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO FOR THOSE REASONS.

THANK YOU. SOME OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT SEEING

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NONE. MR. FULLER WILLING YOU MADE THE MOTION SO YOU GET TO VOTE

FIRST. >> YES. MR. RUDMAN.

YES, MR. CULVERT . NO. MR. DAWSON, I DON'T THINK MR. DAWSON IS BACK ON. IS HE? CAN ANYBODY SEE IF MR. DAWSON IS BACK ON SO HE IS NOT MR. GLOVER? I'M SORRY.

WHO VOTE NO. MR. HERR VACHON, I'M SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

THERE IS BACKGROUND NOISE. NO, SARAH'S GOT IT. >> THANK YOU.

MISS HOWARD. NO, MR. LAWSON. >> MARK LAWSON.

NO. MR. MCKELLEN? NO.

>> MR. SOMERVILLE. >> NO. AND THE CHAIR WILL VOTE NO.

SO WE HAVE I THINK MISS JOHNSON'S ON THE LINE BY PHONE .

IT'S OKAY. >> MR. DAWSON, ARE YOU ON THE LINE BY PHONE?

>> HE CALLED HIM BUT I GOT DROPPED AGAIN. OKAY.

OKAY. THE MOTION IS DEFEAT. THERE ARE TWO.

YES, IN EIGHT. NO, WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION WHICH IS TO I'M MA I INTEND TO VOTE FOR THIS MOTION JUST SO THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR NUMBERS ALL BALANCING CORRECTLY AND CYCLE THERE. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE BUT I WON'T OBJECT TO.

WITHOUT OBJECTION. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO A WHAT MR. FLEMING IS SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH THIS SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO MILLS AS STATED? OK, SO IT'S DOOLEY MOTION BY MR. PERFECT SHAWN SECONDED BY

MR. GLOVER AND WE WILL APPROVE THIS WITHOUT EXCEPTION. >> ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS OR OBJECTIONS? SEE NOT THIS MOTION IS APPROVED .

>> OKAY. WE ARE BACK AT ITEM NUMBER NINE.

AND I NEED FOR US TO GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES TO GIVE YOU A PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WILL NEED TO DO NOW. MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE ITEM 9 WAS PART OF THE WASN'T AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL AGENDA.

AND WE WERE ADDING ON ITEM FROM OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE WHICH YES.

>> YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I WROTE THAT DOWN BUT ON THE BACK PAGE OF THIS AND COULDN'T TURN IT OVER YET. LET'S TAKE THAT BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SURE. THIS WAS THE FORWARD.

YES. THE PURPOSE OF ADDING THE TWELVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED

DOLLARS TO TWENTY TWENTY, EH? >> THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT SIR. AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO DO THAT. OK. THE MOTION IS BY MR. FLOW WELLING. I'D LIKE TO GET THE MOTION PLEASE.

MISS HOWARD MAKES THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION TURNOVER?

>> SORRY. THIS IS FIRST READING CORRECT OF ORDINANCE? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. YES.

YES. YES, YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. NOW I CAN HEAR YOU, MR. DAWSON. ALL RIGHT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW I'M ON MY PHONE RIGHT AT THE TIME AND I'LL TRY TO TAKE THE NEXT.

NO PROBLEM. >> SO THE. THAT'S GOOD THAT YOU'RE ON BECAUSE WE'LL NEED YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. IT'S DULY MOTIONED IN SECOND THIS WILL BE APPROVED FOR FIRST READING WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS?

>> SEEING NO EXCEPTIONS. THIS IS APPROVED. I WILL NEED FOR US TO GO INTO

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EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS MATTERS RELATED TO AN EMPLOYEE REGULATED BY COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE OF ME. I HAVE THE MOTION PLEASE. ROGUE THOUGH STILL MAKES THE

MOTION. >> MAY I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? >> SECOND MR MCKELLEN MAKES THE

SECOND. >> THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT OBJECTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? SEEING NONE WILL BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR

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AS A RESULT OF THE DISCUSSION AND EXECUTIVE SESSION THERE WILL BE A MATTER ARISING OUT

OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM. >> MR FOLLOWING MR. CHAIRMAN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT ERIC GREENWAY THE ACTING ADMINISTRATOR AT THE LIMITS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN

EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> THANK YOU. >> MAY I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? SO MR MCKELLEN WILL MAKE THE SECOND IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ?

>> SEE NO DISCUSSION. >> THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTIONS.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS SAYING NONE? WILL BE APPOINTED AS THE ACTING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BEGINNING TOMORROW. THANK YOU.

OK. WE HAVE CONCLUDED THE BUSINESS OF COUNCIL IS THERE ANY ONE WHO

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HAS CALLED IN TO MAKE A COMMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? YEAH WE'RE HERE.

OK. CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE PLEASE?

>> HI, I'M LISA LEAKING SECURITIES HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS.

COUNCIL CEO KAREN WRESTLING WITH A PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS WITH ME

DOING FOR OUR CHILDREN. >> I HAVE EMAILED BOTH ARTICLES ABOUT THIS TOPIC.

ONE WOULD EVEN MENTION IN MY WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT LAST WEEK ABOUT KIDS IN GEORGIA HAVING BREAKOUTS FOR THEM TO TACKLE ON THEIR FACES WHICH ESSENTIALLY DIAPER RASH ON

THEIR FACES. >> I CAN E-MAIL YOU GUYS FIRES AND STORIES ALL DAY LONG.

I JUST CANNOT CAPTURE DAILY REALITY FOR YOU. OUR CHILDREN AREN'T SEEING THE SMILES OF THEIR TEACHER AND FRIENDS. THEY CAN'T, HOWEVER OR EVEN STAND RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR VERY BEST FRIENDS OUR CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS SENSORY DISORDERS ARE BEING SHAMED AND BULLIES OUR KIDS ARE SUFFERING THROUGH ISOLATION AND HE HUMANIZING MASKS. MY OWN DAUGHTER WHO IS ONLY 7 HAS HAD ASKED ME ON HER NO DO THE MATH AT HER SCHOOL AND SHE ALSO HAD HER HAND CRACKED AND BLEEDING FROM THE EXCESSIVE HAND WASHING SANITIZER BEING USED ON HER DELICATE SKIN. THESE ARE COMMON MEASURES ARE MORE HARMFUL TO OUR CHILDREN THAN COVID 19 COULD EVER BE AS ROBUST SYSTEM DO THE JOB THEY'RE DESIGNED TO DO EXCEPT WE ARE DESTROYING OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS WITH THESE HARMFUL MITIGATION EFFORTS IN A WAY I CAN'T BLAME YOU ALL IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY OF THE GOOD NEWS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FIT THE FAIR FEAR NARRATIVE ABOUT SCIENTISTS REALLY KNOW MUCH MORE ABOUT THIS VIRUS THAN WE ARE GETTING TOLD THE SO-CALLED NEW CORONAVIRUS OVER 75 PERCENT GENETICALLY MATCHED TO THE 2003 CORONAVIRUS. RECENT NEWS THAT PAST EXPOSURE TO THE COMMON COLD GIVES US SOME T CELL IMMUNITIES OUR BODIES REMEMBER AND KNOW HOW TO RESPOND. WHICH EXPLAINS WHY IT'S ON SEVERE ONES AFFECTED.

THE CDC HAS CONFIRMED MORE THAN 99 PERCENT SURVIVABLE FOR EVERYONE UP TO AGE 69 AND MORE THAN 94 PERCENT OF SURVIVABLE FROM BOTH 70 AND OLDER. EVEN DR. DEBORAH BIRX SAID ON AUGUST 18TH THAT AS SOON AND I'M QUOTING HER AS SOON AS PEOPLE REALIZE NINETY NINE PERCENT OF US ARE GOING TO BE JUST FINE, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE TO COMPLY. THIS IS NOT ABOUT SAFETY. IT IS ABOUT COMPLIANCE.

WHY ARE WE LIVING IN FEAR AND ISOLATION? WHY ARE WE FARMING AND MARKETING OUR YOUNG CHILDREN? WHY ARE WE ISOLATING BELOVED ELDERLY PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS WHO WOULD READILY TRADE MONTHS OF ISOLATION FOR A WEEK OF HUGS, LAUGHTER, SMILING FACES AND THE COMFORT OF THEIR LOVING FAMILY TIME IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN? PLEASE STOP IMPLEMENTING THESE MASS MANDATES.

DO NOT BE COMPLICIT IN THE HARM TO OUR CHILDREN AND OUR OTHER VULNERABLE POPULATION.

THE DATA DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS. IF YOU HAVE A HEART AND A CONSCIENCE, NEITHER WILL YOU.

FROM NOW ON THANK YOU SARAH. 1. YES.

>> WHEN YOU HEAR. YES WE CAN HEAR IT AS MEN. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS JEFF LAGGING MENTIONED AT AND I'VE SAID MOST OF THIS BEFORE BUT LIVING ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND HAS BEEN A LONG DREAM OF OUR FAMILY RELOCATED BEFORE THEY KRONA VIRUS HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE. THE ISLAND IS ONCE FILLED WITH SMILING FACES AND SOUTHERN

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HOSPITALITY IS NOW KIND OF LIKE A ZOMBIE MOVIE. WE WERE VERY CONCERNED FOR OUR HILTON HEAD COMMUNITY WHEN NEWS OF THE VIRUS FIRST BROKE EVEN BEFORE THE STAY AT HOME WATERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA. WE FOLLOWED THE ORDERS FROM OUR FORMER STATE OF OHIO.

I WAS A DESIGNATED FAMILY MEMBER WHO WENT EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR A QUICK TRIP ONLY FOR ESSENTIAL SANITY ITEMS QUARANTINE NONPERISHABLE IN THE GARAGE, NO EATING OUT, NO LEISURE SHOPPING. WE STAYED HOME. I'M FORTUNATE TO BE IN A PLACE WHERE BIKING, WALKING, SWIMMING IN TIME ON THE BEACH MADE THE STAY AT HOME WATERS FEEL A LITTLE LIKE AN OVERDUE BREAK. THAT FREE TIME ALSO ALLOWED US TO RESEARCH FACTS ABOUT THE NOVEL VIRUS. I FOUND THE WORK OF DR. SUSAN WEISS WHO EXPLAINED THEY HAVE BEEN STUDYING CORONA VIRUSES SINCE 1960. COMMON COLD IS FREQUENTLY CAUSED BY THE CORONA VIRUS WHICH EXPLAINS WHY ISN'T AS DEADLY AS PROJECTED AS CORONA VIRUS. ALSO 75 PERCENT GENETIC SIMILARITY TO TWO THOUSAND THREE STARS CORONA VIRUS. THE SCIENTISTS KNOW MUCH MORE BUT THIS VIRUS IN THE MEDIA IS TELLING US WE TRUST YOU FOLKS TO SEE BEYOND THE MEDIA AND KNOW THE SCIENCE.

PEOPLE ARE SCARED BECAUSE FRANKLY THEY'RE UNDER EDUCATED .

AS I WAS SAYING I MOVED TO PARADISE HAS BEEN ANYTHING BUT A WELCOMING COMMUNITY WE COULDN'T WAIT TO LIVE IN FEELS FOREIGN COLD, DISTANT. EVERYONE IS MASKED, MAKE NO EYE CONTACT, DODGE AWAY AS THOUGH WE HAVE A HORRIBLE PLAGUE WITH THE MASK MANDATE I'VE WITNESSED DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR FROM PEOPLE CLAIMING THEY WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT OTHERS YET READILY ATTACK AND HARASS ANYONE NOT WEARING A MASK. EXEMPTIONS ARE EXPLICITLY LISTED IN THE MANDATE YET THE PUBLIC AND BUSINESSES ARE NOT HONORING THEM.

WE'VE SHIFTED AWAY FROM KINDNESS, COMPASSION AND PROTECTING THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS HEALTH ISSUES AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS TO A WEAPON, WRITES CITIZEN WHO MAKE EVERYDAY LIFE MORE DIFFICULT FOR VULNERABLE PEOPLE ALREADY OVERCOMING PERSONAL OBSTACLE.

IT'S A SHAME AND I BELIEVE IT IS NOT THE INTENTION OF OUR TOWN COUNCIL AS YOU ARE ALL OUR NEIGHBORS. PLEASE RECOGNIZE WE'VE SLOWED THE SPREAD.

TOURIST SEASON IS OVER AND IT'S TIME TO RESTORE FREEDOM, KINDNESS AND HUMANITY TO THIS PARADISE ISLAND. PERHAPS WE THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX LIKE MASK SHOPPING HOURS AND UNMASK SHOP HOURS. AND WE'LL QUICKLY FIND THOSE WHO WANT IT TO BE MASS AND WHO DOESN'T MAKE CONTACT. BUT THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

CHAIRMAN I BELIEVE THAT'S ARE YOU. ARE YOU STILL ON?

I'M STILL ON. IS THAT THE FINAL ONE? >> I DON'T SEE ANYBODY.

OK. ALL RIGHT. THEN IT IS NOW 7 0 8 P.M. AND WE WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING. THANK YOU

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