[Items 6 & 7: 6. PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION HONORING THE YOUNG MARINES FOR THEIR WORK DURING RED RIBBON WEEK – COUNCIL MEMBER MCELYNN 7. PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE PREVENTION DEPARTMENT – COUNCIL MEMBER MCELYNN]

THE NEXT ITEM ARE TWO PROCLAMATIONS THAT WILL BE READ THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST PROCLAMATION IS A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION HONORING THE YOUNG MARINES FOR THEIR WORK DURING RED RIBBON WEEK. AND THAT PROCLAMATION WILL BE

DONE BY COUNCILMAN KELLEN MCKELLEN, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS HERE HONORING THE YOUNG MARINES AND THE BEAUFORT COUNTY DRUG AND YEAR OF DRUG AND ALCOHOL ABUSE FOR THE WORK THEY DO ANNUALLY IS RECOGNIZED DURING RED RIBBON WEEK. RED RIBBON WEEK WAS BEGUN IN 1988 BY PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN AND HAS BEEN A NATIONAL EVENT SINCE THAT TIME IN THE COMMUNITIES ACROSS AMERICA.

SO THE PROCLAMATION FOR THE YOUNG MARINES DURING A RED RIBBON WEEK IS AS FOLLOWS.

WHEREAS COMMUNITIES ACROSS AMERICA HAVE BEEN PLAGUED BY THE NUMEROUS PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ILLEGAL DRUG USE AND THOSE THAT TRAFFIC IN THEM AND MORE AS THERE IS HOPE IN WINNING THE WAR ON DRUGS AND THAT HOPE LIES IN EDUCATION AND DEMAND DRUG DEMAND REDUCTION COUPLED WITH THE HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION OF ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE YOUNG MARINES OF THE MARINE CORPS LEAGUE WHEREAS THE PILLARS OF THE YOUNG MARINE PROGRAM IS TO LEAD POSITIVE DRUG FREE LIFESTYLES AND TO EDUCATE AND ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME. WHEREAS YOUNG MARINE UNITS ARE MANDATED TO TEACH A STANDARDIZED CURRICULUM THAT FOCUSES ON GATEWAY DRUGS BUT ALSO STAYS CURRENT WITH DRUGS THAT AFFECT OUR YOUTH. AND WHEREAS YOUNG MARINES PARTICIPATE YEAR ROUND

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COMMUNITY PROJECTS AND EVENTS THAT FOCUS ON REDUCING AND ELIMINATING DRUG ABUSE BY OUR YOUTH. AND WHEREAS GOVERNMENTS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS KNOW THAT CITIZEN SUPPORT IS ONE THE MOST EFFECTIVE TOOLS IN THE EFFORT TO REDUCE THE USE OF ILLICIT DRUGS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS THE RED RIBBON HAS BEEN CHOSEN AS A SYMBOL COMMEMORATING THE WORK. ENRIQUE T.K. COME ARENA. A DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION SPECIAL AGENT WAS MURDERED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN 1985 IN GUADALAJARA, MEXICO AND REPRESENTS THE BELIEF THAT ONE PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND WHEREAS THE RED RIBBON CAMPAIGN WAS ESTABLISHED BY CONGRESS TO ENCOURAGE THE DRUG FREE LIFESTYLE AND INVOLVEMENT IN DRUG PREVENTION AND REDUCTION EFFORTS.

AND WHEREAS OCTOBER TWENTY THREE THROUGH 31 HAS BEEN DESIGNATED NATIONAL RED RIBBON WEEK WHICH ENCOURAGES AMERICANS TO WEAR A RED RIBBON TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR A DRUG FREE ENVIRONMENT NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE YOUNG MARINES DURING RED RIBBON WEEK FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN EDUCATING THE YOUTH.

ALL YEAR LONG THROUGH VARIOUS EVENTS AND COMMUNITY PROJECTS WE PROUDLY PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION TO THE YOUNG MARINES OF BEAUFORT COUNTY DATED THE 12TH DAY OF OCTOBER 20 20 AND SIGNED BY JOSEPH F. PARSIMONY CHAIRMAN BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL.

I REGRET THAT THE YOUNG MARINES ARE NOT HERE TO DAY WITH US OF THEIR OWN.

>> SHE'S WEARING YEAH BUT I CAN'T HAND IT TO HER. I CAN'T PUT IT TO HER.

OH, THAT'S WHAT SHE MEANS SOMEBODY THEY CAN SPEAK. >> YEAH I I REMEMBER MEETING THEM LAST YEAR AT OUR EVENT WHERE WE ISSUED A SIMILAR PROCLAMATION AND SHORTLY AFTER THAT I WAS INVITED TO QUOTE TO PARRIS ISLAND TO MAKE A PRESENTATION TO THE YOUNG MARINE UNIT ON A SATURDAY AND I ENJOYED VISITING WITH THEM AND LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING ANOTHER INVITATION SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU DO ALL YEAR ROUND AND CONGRATULATIONS ON RECEIVING THIS PROCLAMATION IN YOUR HONOR.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> WE APPRECIATE IT. YOU'RE WELCOME.

I HAVE ONE MORE PROCLAMATION WHEREAS ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE AFFECTS INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION AND WHERE IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT VISIBLE UNIFIED EFFORTS BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS BE LAUNCHED TO PREVENT DRUG ABUSE AND WHEREAS WHEREAS THERE IS HOPE IN WINNING THE WAR ON DRUGS AND THAT HOPE LIES IN EDUCATION AND DRUG DEMAND REDUCTION COUPLED WITH THE HARD WORK AND DETERMINATION OF ORGANIZATION SUCH AS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSES PREVENTION DEPARTMENT TO FOSTER A HEALTHY DRUG FREE LIFESTYLE MORES GOVERNMENTS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS KNOW THAT CITIZENS SUPPORT IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE TOOLS IN THE EFFORT TO REDUCE THE USE OF ILLICIT DRUGS AND OTHER DRUG MISUSE IN MISUSE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. WHEREAS THE RED RIBBON HAS BEEN CHOSEN AS A SYMBOL COMMEMORATING THE WORK OF ENRIQUE KIKI CAMARENA, A DRUG ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL AGENT, DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION SPECIAL AGENT WHO WAS KIDNAPED AND MURDERED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN 1985 IN GUADALAJARA, MEXICO AND REPRESENTS THE BELIEF THAT ONE PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WHEREAS TODAY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE CELEBRATE RED RIBBON WEEK BY WEARING RED RIBBONS PARTICIPATING IN COMMUNITY ANTI-DRUG EVENTS AND PLEDGING TO LIVE DRUG FREE LIVES AND WHEREAS OCTOBER 23 THROUGH 31 HAS BEEN DESIGNATED NATIONAL RED RIBBON WEEK ENCOURAGING AMERICANS TO WEAR A RED RIBBON TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR A DRUG FREE ENVIRONMENT. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL HEREBY PROCLAIMS OCTOBER 23 TO 31 20 20 AND ENCOURAGES CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IN DRUG EDUCATION ACTIVITIES NOT ONLY DURING RED RIBBON WEEK BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR MAKING A VISIBLE STATEMENT THAT WE ARE STRONGLY COMMITTED TO A DRUG FREE LIFESTYLE DATED 12TH OCTOBER 2020.

JOSEPH PARSIMONY CHAIRMAN OF BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL AND PROUDLY PRESENTED TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE DEPARTMENT REPRESENTED TONIGHT BY STEVE DONALDSON AND WE EXTEND TO HIM OUR CONGRATULATIONS FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT THIS DEPARTMENT DOES DURING THE YEAR AND IN PARTICULAR DURING THE VERY DIFFICULT TIMES THAT DESCENDED UPON US IN MARCH AND WILL SOMETIME WHEN WE HAVE A VACCINE AND SOME THERAPEUTICS BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE. SO STEVE, I KNOW YOU'RE RIGHT HERE SOMEWHERE. CONGRATULATIONS. AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE

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MEMBERS OF YOUR DEPARTMENT WHO DO THIS EXTRAORDINARY WORK ON A YEAR ROUND BASIS.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS YEAR IS VERY GOOD. THE DIRECTOR OF OUR PREVENTION DEPARTMENT I WANTED HIM REALLY TO RECEIVE IT BECAUSE IT'S HIS DEPARTMENT THAT DOES ALL THE FINE WORK.

I I'VE KNOWN WADE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS NOW AND I USED TO WORK WITH HIM IN ANOTHER LIFETIME THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOLS AND I CAN ATTEST TO THE REMARKABLE JOB THAT HE DOES AND THE VERY POSITIVE PRESENCE HE CREATES WHEN HE ENGAGES IN THESE DRUG PREVENTION AND EDUCATION

PROGRAMS. >> AND BEFORE WE MOVE OFF THIS TOPIC, I DO WANT TO MENTION TO THE YOUNG MARINES THAT SPECIAL SPECIAL AGENT COME ARENA WHO IS THE DEA AGENT WHO WAS KIDNAPED AND MURDERED IN THE LINE OF DUTY WAS AT UNITED STATES MARINE PRIOR TO HIS SELECTION AS A SPECIAL AGENT WITH DEA. I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT SOMEONE.

OK, THANK YOU BOTH. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

MR. MCKELLEN. YES. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU KNEW BUT THERE'S A YOUNG MAN ON THE CALL WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOUR PROCLAMATION THAT YOU ELOQUENTLY READ ABOUT THE YOUNG MARINES. OK.

DO YOU HAVE IN THERE MR. COVERT? SARAH, DO YOU HAVE MISS LAWTON AND THE YOUNG MAN THAT THE OH HE'S THERE. YEAH, WE HAD.

OK, GO RIGHT AHEAD, SIR. SORRY, I THOUGHT WE HAD OFFERED YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY BEFORE AND

THAT. >> GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNTY BE PART FOR ME GIVING UP THIS SPACE. IT'S A REALLY HUGE DEAL TO BE AT THE MARGINS ON THAT ORGANIZATION. IT PROVES THAT THERE ARE YOUNG PEOPLE AND FOR US WORKING HARD TO STOP DRUG TRAFFICKING AND OTHER THINGS.

>> WELL, NOW THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US THAT MARINE STORY, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU ONE BEFORE WE HANG UP HERE. IN 1985 I WENT OUT TO CALIFORNIA AND TO MEXICO TO PARTICIPATE THE RETRIEVAL OF THE REMAINS OF THIS AGENT AND I WAS SENT OUT THERE BY THE HEAD OF DEA AND BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND I WENT TO THE MARINE BASE IN SAN DIEGO AND I SAW THE COMMANDING OFFICER AND I SAID, COLONEL, I'M OUT HERE BY MYSELF AND I NEED SOME ASSISTANCE IN TRYING TO ACHIEVE THIS OBJECTIVE.

AND YOU SAID SO WHY HAVE YOU COME HERE TO ASK ME? I SAID, OH, I FORGOT TO MENTION AGENT CAMARENA USED TO BE A MARINE. AND HE SAID TO ME, WELL, SON, DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANOTHER WORD. WE'LL HANDLE IT. AND THEY DID.

THEY DID A REMARKABLE JOB ASSISTING US AND HE WAS RIGHT. I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO ANOTHER

THING TO GOD BLESS THE MARINE CORPS. >> AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

LET ME GET TO THAT. IF IT IS THAT HE IS HONORED WITH THE TRIBUTE THAT STUDY WITH ITS TIES TO THE MARINE CORPS. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE A PART OF THIS ORGANIZATION. I NEVER LIKE CAN I GET A NEW ERA?

>> YOU CANNOT WRITE SEMPER FI. THAT WAS WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OK. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE CITIZEN IF.

>> WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING ONE STARRY NIGHT.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- AUGUST 17, 2020 AND AUGUST 24, 2020]

I MISSED THAT ENTIRELY OK. YES. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE

THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 17TH AND AUGUST 24TH 20 20 MINUTES? >> GO MOVE.

MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. COOLING MAKE THE MOTION OUTSIDE THE MOTION MISS HOWARD

MAKES THE SECOND. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION, THE MINUTES WILL BE APPROVED WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS SAYING NO EXCEPTIONS? MINUTES ARE APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[8. CITIZEN COMMENT (Every member of the public who is recognized to speak shall limit comments to three minutes ‐ Citizens may email sbrock@bcgov.net)]

OKATIE. NOW WE ARE AT THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.

CITIZEN COMMENTS ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS ACROSS THE COUNTY. THESE HAVE BEEN TOUGH TIMES OF THE PANDEMIC CONTINUES ON.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE POSSIBLY CAN. WE'VE HAD OUR UPS AND DOWNS WITH COMMUNICATION. WE'RE TRYING SOMETHING NEW I HAVE BEFORE ME WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE ON TV. IF YOU'RE WATCHING US JUST IN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE UNDER OUR NEW SYSTEM, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET TO THE POSITION THAT SOMEDAY

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RELATIVELY SOON BECAUSE WE DID THIS WITHIN THE LAST 48 HOURS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE HAVE CITIZENS BE ABLE TO CALL IN OR VIDEO IN AND THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN COMMENTS UNTIL THAT TIME I AM GOING TO READ AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. SEVERAL OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN I HAVE ROUGHLY 10 PAGES WORTH OF COMMENTS SO WE'LL SEE HOW FAR I CAN GO.

THE FIRST COMMENT COMES FROM MR. JOHN KELLY. IT'S BEEN MONTHS SINCE THE PAL GYMS HAVE BEEN OPEN ALONG OUR LIBRARY ALONG WITH OUR LIBRARIES.

THESE CENTERS ARE ESSENTIAL FOR HEALTH FOR BOTH OUR BODIES AND OUR MINDS.

AN OPTIMIZED PLAN MUST BALANCE SAFETY ALONG WITH PROVIDING AVAILABILITY OF FACILITY SERVICES. ABOVE I AM A SENIOR CITIZEN AND MY DOCTOR EMPHASIZE MY NEED TO EXERCISE. I ALSO MISS MY LIBRARY. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS FROM SHANNON RYAN. THE MESSAGE IS SO LONG I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO READ IT IN THREE MINUTES. AT IT'S ACTUALLY CUT OFF PART OF IT IS BEEN CUT OFF.

I'M SORRY IT MELDED TOGETHER WITH THE MESSAGE BELOW. AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS CUT OFF.

HER MESSAGE IS IT'S TIME FOR THE AUDITOR TO GO. IF HE CHANGED THE MILLAGE RATE AS PER THE PAPER THIS MORNING WITHOUT INFORMING COUNSEL AND PUT THE COUNCIL IN THIS PREDICAMENT PLUS AT LEAST TWO HARASSMENT CHARGES AGAINST HIM HE NEEDS TO GO.

WE CAN DO BETTER. THE NEXT ONE WHICH IS THE ONE THAT'S SO LENGTHY I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ IT IN ITS ENTIRETY IS THE MESSAGE FROM DOCTOR RABBI ARTHUR SIEGEL WHO TALKS AND SAYS WE ARE WILLING TODAY TO KINDLY ASK THAT WHEN YOU PRESENT MASKING LAWS COME DO TO EXPIRE SOON THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE TO RENEW THEM. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT ONE. THERE IT IS. OK.

THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THE CAROLINA THAT WAS UP THERE.

WE'RE ALSO ASKING YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER WAYS FOR GENTLE ENFORCEMENT THAT DOES NOT ADD TO THE DUTIES THAT OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS.

LASTLY, WE'RE ASKING FOR MASKING TO BE REQUIRED WHERE MANY PEOPLE CONGREGATE OUTSIDE.

EXAMPLES OF THESE LOCATIONS MIGHT INCLUDE THE SHELTER COVE OUTSIDE MALL, THE CALLIGNEE PLAZA TANGER OUTLETS AND THE STATE OF MIND STREET AREA SPORTING EVENTS FROM FOOTBALL TO POLO CONCERTS AND FESTIVALS WITH NO VACCINE AND OR PROVEN TREATMENT FOR THE CORONA VIRUS. WE'RE LEFT WITH NON PHARMACEUTICAL INTERVENTIONS TO PREVENT THE TRANSMISSION OF THE VIOLENT VIRUS THAT HAS RESULTED IN MORE THAN 730 1000 DEATHS ROUND THE WORLD. SOME 160 3000 THAT'S LOW IN THE UNITED STATES.

ESTIMATES OF 200000 DEAD IN THE U.S. BACK IN MARCH HAVE RISEN TO 300000.

IT HAS NOT GONE TO 300000 YET. THESE INCLUDE SOCIAL DISTANCING ,HAND HYGIENE, DISINFECTING AND THE WEARING A MASK. WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME WHO DO NOT WISH TO MASK THE NUMBER HAS FALLEN SINCE THE PRESIDENT STATED THIS IS PATRIOTIC MASK BUT SOME OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WILL ASK YOU NOT TO HAVE MASKS . BELOW ARE 10 COMMON REASONS THEY GIVE AND THE FACTS THAT YOU MAY USE TO RESPOND TO THEM AND ONLY NO ONE IS VISIBLE THERE. AND I CANNOT SCROLL TO SEE WHAT THE REST IS.

THE NEXT COMES FROM KAREN ANDERSON. BEHIND THIS 4000 PERCENT THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL IMPACT FEE. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO REPRESENTS ANYONE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. SEEMS TO ME THE ONLY ONES WHO MIGHT OPPOSE TO VOTE IN FAVOR ARE THE OF THE DEVELOPER AND NOT THE REASON WE HAVE PERMITTED DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. NILLY WITH NO REGARD FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

FOR DECADES WE HAVE INCREASED OUR TAX BASE AND DOING SO BUT ON THE BACKS OF THE TAXPAYER HEIRS WHO ARE SADDLED WITH BUILDING NEW BUILDINGS, NEW ROADS, NEW SCHOOLS, NEW INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DEVELOPERS WHO CAN ONLY BENEFIT FROM NEWCOMERS WHO DID NOT HAVE TO PAY. AND FROM THE COUNCIL HAS INCREASED ITS TAX BASE.

HOW MANY SCHOOLS HAVE I PAID FOR IN THE LAST 40 YEARS? HOW MANY MILES OF ROAD DEB CHAVEZ SAYS STOPPED AT STOPPED A RIDE BOLT IN BAY STREET LIGHT.

I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE ONE OF THE CORNERS HAD EVERY POLITICAL LONE SIGN REPUBLICAN DEMOCRAT AND NONPARTIZAN. IT MAY BE VERY PROUD THAT OUR THAT OUR TOWN MADE ROOM FOR

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EVERY VOICE IT SEEMED TO STATE. THE DIVISION DOES NOT HAVE TO SEPARATE US.

AFTER ALL WHERE BEAUFORT TONY JONES WHAT AN UPLIFTING MESSAGE .

I WENT BACK TO TAKE A PICTURE AND HALF THE SIGNS WERE GONE. THE MESSAGE WAS VERY DIFFERENT BUT SADLY FAMILIAR. MICHELLE LUDWIG SAYS HOW DOES THIS PROPOSED CHANGE AFFECT PROPERTY LINES AND BUILDINGS? SEC BUILDINGS SET BACKS BETWEEN HOMES.

THE NEXT ONE COMES FROM NANCY LORING PLEASE CONSIDER CHANGING THE MILITARY RUNWAY TO AVOID GOING OVER THE NEW AND ESTABLISHED COMMUNITIES NOISE AND JET STREAM POLLUTION ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS FOR THE HEALTH OF ALL COMMUNITIES AFFECTED.

THE POSITION OF THE RUNWAY IS ANTIQUATED AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT GROPED IN THE BURDEN AND BEAUFORT COUNTIES. IF THE IF THESE COUNTIES EXPECT TO CONTINUE TO GROW IN A ROBUST MANNER AND RECAP THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS THE COMMUNITIES DESERVE A QUIET PLACE TO ESTABLISH ROOTS. TIME TO INVEST, INVEST IN FRESH LONG TERM CHANGE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE MILITARY AND THE COUNTY.

EVERYONE WILL BE HAPPIER AND THEY WILL BE AND THERE WILL BE REAL ESTATE PROSPERITY FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS. SANDY THOMPSON SAYS THANK YOU FOR THIS NEW COMMUNICATION TOOL. PLEASE CONTINUE WITH THE MASK ORDINANCE AS WE APPROACH A MOST CRITICAL TIME RISK SEASON. CITIES AND STATES ON THIS DATE HAVE EXPLODING CASE NUMBERS PART AND DUE TO THE LACK OF PREVENTION MEASURES MEASURES.

BEAUFORT IS DOING RELATIVELY WELL IN THE WAR. PLEASE KEEP THE MASK IN PLACE EVEN THOUGH WE DISLIKE WEARING THEM. IT'S A TRUE INDICATION OF YOUR CONCERN AS THE COUNTY BUILDINGS REMAIN CLOSED. WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS DECISION. STACY AUBREY SAYS THE MASS MANDATE NEEDS TO BE ENDED.

THERE IS NO STATE OF EMERGENCY KNOWN IN PANDEMIC. THE CDC HAS DISCLOSED THIS DECLASSIFIED THAT AS AN OUTBREAK. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CDC HAS SAID. I MIGHT ADD THE SCIENCE DOES NOT SHOW A NECESSITY FOR THE MANDATE COVE . IT HAS A NINETY NINE PLUS PERCENT RECOVERY RATE RECOVERY RATE. BEYOND THIS IS A GROSS GOVERNMENT OVERREACH.

ALLOW BUSINESSES TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES THE REQUIREMENTS TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM.

ALLOW INDIVIDUALS TO MANAGE MANAGE THEIR OWN HEALTH. IF THE COUNCIL SEES IT'S THEIR DUTY TO MANAGE THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE HOW ABOUT MANDATE EXERCISE AND FRESH FRUIT VEGETABLES AND GET RID OF FAST FOOD CIGARETS AND ALCOHOL? IF YOU DON'T SEE IT YOUR DUTY TO MANAGE THESE DECISIONS LIKEWISE FOR THE MASK UNMASK BEAUFORT COUNTY.

BROOKE ERICKSON SAYS PLEASE VOTE NO TO THE MASK ORDINANCE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MY CHILDREN'S SCHOOL AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING LOCAL ORDINANCE. WHILE THE COUNCIL SAYS THEY DO NOT MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE SCHOOLS, THE SCHOOLS ARE LOOKING FOR DECISIONS THIS COUNCIL MAKES WHEN MAKING DECISIONS REGARDING MASS FOR THE STUDENTS.

THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS ARE CLOSED SO THE EMPLOYEES DO NOT HAVE TO WEAR MASKS EIGHT HOURS A DAY.

PLEASE CONSIDER HOW THE CHILDREN FEEL AT SCHOOL. ALSO CONSIDER HOW EMPLOYEES FEEL AT STORES IN THE CITY AND IN THE COUNTY. WHILE WORK WORKING WEARING MASK ALL DAY IT'S TERRIBLE. THE SURVIVAL RATE OF COVERED IS OVER NINETY NINE POINT NINE PERCENT. IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT THE SCIENCE AND STOP THE FEAR MONGERING. OPEN THE BUILDING SO WE CAN PAY OUR CAR TAXES.

STOP THE MASS MANDATE. IF PEOPLE WANT TO WEAR A MASS THAT'S FINE.

BUT THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO. WE SHOULD HAVE THAT CHOICE. JOANNE GETTY PIETRO SAYS AN ADVANCED PRACTICE REGISTERED NURSE WITH A DOCTORATE DEGREE. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO FOLLOW THE DATA AND CONTINUE THE MASK MANDATE. THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE MANDATE ARE ACTING EMOTIONALLY AND IRRATIONALLY. I WORE MASK AS PART OF MY PRACTICE TO SAFEGUARD MYSELF AND MY PATIENTS. THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE TO WEARING A MASK. THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT IT SAVES LIFE.

SEAT BELTS ARE NOT A MATTER OF PERSONAL CHOICE. DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE IS NEVER A MATTER OF PERSONAL CHOICE. WEARING A MASK IS A PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURE. IGNORE THE NOISY RADICALS AND VOTE FOR COMMON.

CATHY QUAYLE SAYS MASK IS A PLACEBO. PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING MORE FROM THE ACTIONS OF GOVERNMENT OVERREACH THEN AND THE CURE THAN THE COVE .

DROP THE MASK. DONNA MORRIS SAYS PLEASE MAINTAIN THE MASK FOR AS LONG AS REQUIRED. MOST PEOPLE HAVE WILLINGLY COMPLY COMP DIED AND THAT HAS MADE POSSIBLE TO BRING DOWN THE NUMBERS AND MAINTAIN SOME SENSE OF NORMALCY TO LIFT THE

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MANDATED. THIS TIME WILL CONFINE MANY OF US TO HOME, MARTIN LESH SAYS. IT IS YOUR MORAL AND ETHICAL OBLIGATION TO FOLLOW THE PUBLIC HEALTH GUIDELINES. SOUTH CAROLINA DEAC AND THE CDC HAVE ASKED OR I URGE YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND NEXT AND THE MASK ORDINANCE I REALIZE THAT A SMALL NUMBER OF LOUD GROUP OF PEOPLE WANT THE MANDATE AND BUT IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO PUT THE COMMUNITY AT GREATER RISK. IT ALSO TAKES THE BURDEN OFF SMALL BUSINESSES SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE CONFRONTATIONS WITH NON MASSACRES WHICH IS AN UNFAIR SITUATION TO PUT THEM IN. JANET SAYS PLEASE CONTINUE REQUIRING FACE MASK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ALTHOUGH THE MASK RULES CAN ONLY MITIGATE THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE.

I BELIEVE WE SHOULD ALL ALL DO AT LEAST AS MUCH UNTIL WE HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE MEDICATION AND DISEASE PREVENTION EFFORTS. LINDA LYONS SAYS PLEASE KEEP THE MASS MANDATE IN PLACE FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY. PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THEIR FREEDOM. HOWEVER, I WANT TO KEEP MY FREEDOM TO LIVE.

PEOPLE SAY THAT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A MASK MANDATE YOU SHOULD STAY AT HOME.

I DO. HOWEVER, IF WE DROP THE MASK MANDATE THE COMMUNITY SPREAD MAY BECOME SO GREAT THAT WE WILL BECOME LIKE NORTH DAKOTA. THE HOSPITALS ARE SO FULL THAT THEY'RE SENDING PATIENTS TO SOUTH DAKOTA AND MONTANA. DO WE WANT TO BE SENDING PATIENTS TO ATLANTA AND RALEIGH? LET'S CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS UNDER CONTROLS OR HOSPITALS CAN TREAT EMERGENCY STROKES AND HEART ATTACKS.

PLEASE KEEP US SAFE REGARDING THE MASK ORDINANCE LIFE THIS IS A LIFE AND DEATH ISSUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. MIKE GLEASON SAID IF THE MASK ORDINANCE IS NOT CONSTANT EXTENDED WE WILL BE FORCED TO BOYCOTT ALL BUT BUSINESSES IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY.

AND WILL GORE ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO THE SAME? JEANINE MURDERER SAYS COUNCIL PLEASE EXTEND THE MAST ORDINANCE ALL SCIENCE HEAVEN SUPPORTS TO WEARING MASK AS ABSOLUTE BEST TOOL. WE HAVE TO CONTROL THE SPREAD OF CALVERT 19 PRIOR TO THE ORDINANCE. BEAUFORT COUNTY HAD A POSITIVE THREE RATE OF OVER 20 PERCENT LAST WEEK DEAC SAID SEVEN POINT TWO. THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP OUR BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS OPEN IS TO CONTINUE TO MASK UP. IT'S A SMALL INCONVENIENCE FOR SOME AND WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. DO NOT BECOME BEHOLDEN TO THE VOICES OF THE FEW. YOU HAVE A GREATER OBLIGATION TO ALL THE CITIZENS.

NEXT IS KATHY QUAILS WHO SAID PLEASE VOTE NO ON EXTENDING THE MASK.

THE MANDATE IS GOVERNMENT OVERREACH AND IS NOT BASED ON SCIENCE THOUGH LET THOSE AT LOW RISK GET BACK TO NORMAL LIFE AND LIVELY HOODS UNMASK THE CHILDREN.

THERE IS ENOUGH SUFFERING FROM THE CURE. YOU NEED TO UNMASK YOUR MIND AND THE STATE OF EMERGENCY AND ALSO FOLLOW THE MONEY. THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT CAME THROUGH THE NEW SYSTEM. WE ALSO HAD THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT ONLINE AND THE FOLLOWING WERE SUBMITTED TO US ONLINE. MARIANNE WATSON SAID PLEASE THE AND ORDINANCE AND BEAUFORT CDC NO LONGER CLASSIFIED EYES COVERED AS PANDEMIC.

IF YOU DO VOTE TO EXTEND ON WHAT GROUNDS ARE YOU DOING SO WHAT'S THE BENCHMARK TO REACH IN WHICH IN WHICH THE CULVERTS OR THE ORDINANCE WOULD END? OUR CASES ARE VERY LOW.

OUR DEATH RATE IS EXTREMELY LOW AND COVE IT IS A VIRUS THAT IS NOT GOING AWAY WITH OR WITHOUT A VACCINE. WE SEE THIS WITH THE FLU. SO AT WHAT POINT DO YOU THINK IT'S SAFE TO LET OUR COUNTY MAKE THEIR OWN HEALTH DECISIONS? NOW THAT WE KNOW SO MUCH MORE ABOUT THE VIRUS? JACK MATTHEWS SAYS STOP THE INSANITY. THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ARE JUST IN FACTIONS RASH INFECTIONS, ACNE, THROAT INFECTIONS, DOMESTIC ABUSE, CHILD ABUSE, JOB LOSS CLOSED BUSINESSES, FOOD DEPRIVED AND STARVING LACK OF EXERCISE, DEPRESSION, SUICIDE AND WILDLIFE EXTINCTION. LYDIA SAYS PLEASE. AND THE MASCOT ORDINANCE.

PLEASE READ THE DATA ON PAGE 4 WHICH WAS RECENTLY PUBLISHED BY THE CDC.

THEIR STUDY CONTROL GROUP HAD MORE VIRUS INFECTIONS AMONG MASK WEARERS 70 PERCENT RURAL OR MASS CONTRACTED THE VIRUS. AS LONG AS GOVERNMENT MANDATE MASK USAGE I WILL NOT BE SPENDING ANY MONEY IN YOUR JURISDICTIONS. JOSEPHINE WHILE LIANA SAYS THE COVERED ISSUE NOT AN EMERGENCY AS WE EXPECT YOU WILL VOTE APPROPRIATE LEE.

THE MONEY THE GOVERNMENT RECEIVES IS NOT WORTH WHAT IS HAPPENING TO WE THE PEOPLE.

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THESE MASS WHICH HAVE ZERO SCIENTIFIC PROOF THEY RESIST VIRUSES ARE HURTING PEOPLE AND OUR WILDLIFE, MARGARET BROOK SAYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING THE MASK ORDINANCE IN PLACE. I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING OUT FOR HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF ALL OUR CITIZENS. JOHN HALL SAYS PLEASE LIFT ALL THE RESTRICTIONS FORCED UPON THE CITIZENRY REGARDING MASS CLOSURES. PEOPLE DESERVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES IF THEY NEED TO WEAR A MASK OR NOT. SHOW THE PEOPLE THAT YOU RESPECT THEM AND RESTORE THEIR FREEDOM. KRISTEN GRECO SAYS DO NOT EXTEND THE MASS MANDATE. IT NEEDS TO BE OVER. MAGGIE ARMANI SAYS LIFT THE MASS MANDATE ORDINANCE FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY. PLEASE ALLOW THOSE WHO STILL WANT TO WEAR ONE WEAR IT. BUT THE ORDINANCE AND MANDATES A MANDATE HAS ALLOWED THE COMMUNITY TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THOSE WITH DISABILITIES AND THROW HIP LAWS OUT THE WINDOW WITHOUT ANY CONCERN FOR THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT. IT BECOMES A MEANS OF DIVISION RATHER THAN UNITY AND SAFETY. ALEXANDER ZEHRA SAYS IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO END THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT OVERREACH OF THE MASS MANDATE. AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS VIRUS, IT'S BECOMING A PARENT. IT'S CASE FATALITY RATE IS IN LINE WITH THE H1N1 SWINE FLU.

WE DID NOT TAKE ANY OF THESE DRACONIAN AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL MEASURES DURING THAT.

AND IT'S TIME WE STOPPED THEM. I PERSONALLY KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEVELOPED RESPIRATORY ISSUES DUE TO THE MASS CONTINUING THE MASS MANDATE WILL SET THE COUNTY UP FOR FUTURE LEGAL EXPENSES DUE TO HARMFUL NATURE MASS. IT'S NOT ONLY THE CORRECT THING TO DO BUT A FINANCIALLY SOUND DECISION TO PROTECT THE COUNTY FROM FUTURE LAWSUITS.

THAT'S NOT EVEN GETTING INTO HOW THE MASKS ARE A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST MANY OF OUR RELIGIONS AND HOW HARMFUL THEY ARE TO VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS WITH ANXIETY AND SENSORY ISSUES. WE'RE LUCKY THERE'S NO MASK RELATED VIOLENCE IN OUR COUNTY SHOULD THANK OUR BLESSINGS. BUT FOR QUIT WHILE WE'RE AHEAD TO END THE MANDATE PLEASE HAVE THE COURAGE TO STAND WITH MYSELF AND MANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS. TONY MARCEL NE SAID HONOR MEDICAL FREEMAN AND THE MASKING OF AMERICANS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.

LAST NIGHT I WATCHED THE MAST SERVER GO FROM TABLE TO TABLE WIPING THE SERVICES NO SPRAY JUST SPREADING ON WHAT WAS RAG WELL WHAT WAS ON THE RAG AND TABLETOP FROM TABLE TO TABLE.

THEN I WATCHED MASS FAMILIES BE SEATED AT THESE TABLES. DO YOU SEE THE FOOLISHNESS? THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. I CAN OVERRIDE AN ENDLESS LIST .

MORE THAN 18000 DOCTORS AGREE WOULD MAKE ARMANDO HERNANDEZ SAYS I'M TIRED OF THE MASS MANDATORY. BESIDES, I CAN'T BREATHE IN IT. I GET LIGHTHEADED AND FEEL I'M GOING TO FAINT. I REALLY BELIEVE THIS SHOULD BE PEOPLE'S CHOICE IF THEY WANT TO WEAR THEM OR NOT. RICK WRESTLER SAYS COULD YOU ALL TAKE A MOMENT TO DISCUSS AND DEFINE YOUR TERM INTERPRETATION OF THE WORD LIBERTY? TIMOTHY DUTTON SAYS PLEASE AND THE MASK MANDATE RICHARD HALL SAYS IF YOU CONTINUE THIS UNPROVEN MASS MANDATE YOU WILL BE STROKING YOUR OUR OWN LOCAL ECONOMY AND SHATTERING FUTURE REVENUE SOURCES BY PUTTING BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESSES. ANY BUSINESS THAT DEMANDS MASS WILL NOT GET MY BUSINESS NOR THAT OF ONE HUNDREDS OF OTHER FOLKS I KNOW.

UNTIL THIS IS LIFTED PEOPLE WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMY.

PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE TO WEAR OR NOT WEAR A MASK.

MORE PEOPLE ARE GETTING SICK FROM WEARING ONE THAN THOSE ARE NOT.

WAKE UP AND IGNORE THE FAKE INFORMATION, KIM JOHNSON SAID. PLEASE EXTEND THE MASK MANDATORY. THEY SERVE NO PURPOSE. DO NOT EXTEND.

THEY SOLD NO SERVE NO PURPOSE. GET ON WITH LIFE. DONNA FARRELL SAYS PLEASE VOTE NO. BASED ON THE CDC THERE'S NO SUPPORT WEARING MASKS TO STOP THE SPREAD. MORE PEOPLE ARE WEARING MASK CONSTANT CONSISTENTLY GETS COVID 19 THAN PEOPLE WHO RARELY DO THAT. THOSE WHO NEVER WEAR ONE OR ONLY THREE PERCENT THREE POINT NINE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION THAT GETS COVID 19.

LET'S SEE. JODY LESTER SAYS DITCHED THE MASK.

BRIAN TO PRAY SAYS I THINK WE SHOULD SPEND OUR RESOURCES INFORMING THE PUBLIC IN FACTUAL AND CURRENT DATA AND LET THEM MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ON THEIR HEALTH.

TIMOTHY REIDY SAYS YOU MENTIONED FREQUENTLY THAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE LOCAL HOSPITAL EXECUTIVE AND SOUTH CAROLINA DEAC WHO HAS BEEN FOUND TO MAKE FAULTY STATEMENTS

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WITH REGARD TO CASE COUNTS AFTER THE MASS MANDATES WERE IMPLEMENTED AND PUBLISHING COMPLETELY FRAUDULENT CASE POSITIVITY RATES TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS REGARDING THE EO AND THE MASS MANDATE. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY EXPERT OPINIONS IN YOUR PRONOUNCEMENTS NAMELY EXPERTS THAT DIFFERENT FROM YOUR CURRENT APPROACH.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE GREAT BARRINGTON DECLARATION. JENNIFER LONG SAYS PLEASE LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE OF BEAUFORT. WE'RE ONLY DOING MORE HARM THAN GOOD BY REQUIRING EVERYONE TO WEAR A MASK. INSTEAD YOU'RE REQUIRING US TO WEAKEN OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS SO THAT WHEN WE ARE EXPOSED TO VIRUSES OUR BODY CAN'T FIGHT THEM APPROPRIATELY. I'VE HAD COVERED AND IT'S REALLY NOT THAT BAD AS EVERYONE IS MAKING IT OUT TO BE AND THAT'S THE FACT FOR MOST PEOPLE EITHER THEY HAVE NO SYMPTOMS OR MILD ONES. YES. AND FORTUNATELY WE COMPROMISED SYSTEMS AND THEY CAN DECIDE WHAT'S BEST FOR THEMSELVES. I CONTRACTED IT AFTER YOU PUT THE MASK MANDATES IN EFFECT AND I QUIT LEAVING MY HOUSE BECAUSE OF THIS MANDATE.

MY HUSBAND WOULD RUN THE END, RUN ERRANDS AND GO TO WORK WEARING A MASK BUT YET HE STILL GOT IT. WE'RE ALSO WE ALSO THE COUNTRY WITH THE WORST HEALTH ISSUES HAVING THE HIGHEST OBESITY CASES. WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE OUR PEOPLE TO EAT HEALTHY AND EXERCISE AND TO MAKE WISE CHOICES TO BUILD OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS, GET OUT AND HAVE IN-PERSON MEETINGS SO YOU CAN REALLY HEAR OUR VOICES. THE KIDS AND TEACHERS ARE IN SCHOOL. THEY GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND DO IT.

DO YOUR JOBS AND THIS NONSENSE. THE PANDEMIC IS OVER. PLEASE LIFT THE MASS MANDATE.

ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE IT WORKS.

I'M SO TIRED OF BEING YELLED AT BECAUSE I DON'T WEAR ONE. THE MASK HAS NOW MADE MY CONSTANT BREATHING PROBLEMS AND MY ASTHMA HAS FLARED UP SO TREMENDOUSLY AND IT'S COSTING ME A FORTUNE IN MEDICATION. STOP OVERSTEPPING MY POWER. I'M A MOM FROM BEAUFORT AND I'M DELIGHTED TO PUT YOU ON NOTICE THAT WE ARE DONE WITH A MASS MANDATE.

IT'S TIME TO END THIS POLITICAL NONSENSE AND FOCUS ON THE PRESENT SCIENCE THAT IS BEING REVEALED. THE VIRUS HAS NOTHING TO FEAR AND THE MASK.

EVERYONE AND MASKING EVERYONE IN DAILY LIFE DOESN'T WORK AND IS DEEMED DANGEROUS AND RECKLESS. IT ALSO VIOLATES THE GOD GIVEN RIGHTS THAT ARE PROTECTED BY OUR CONSTITUTION. YOU KNOW THAT VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO UPHOLD AND DEFEND. ALSO YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MEDICALLY UNABLE TO TOLERATE COVERING THEIR NOSE AND MOUTH EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS UNIQUE MEDICAL NEEDS AND SOME CANNOT TOLERATE A MASK WHETHER PHYSICALLY OR MENTALLY THEIR LIVES MATTER TO. YOU MUST BE TOLERANT OF EVERYONE.

LIFE WAS GOOD BEFORE THIS. NOW EVERY DAY IS A STRUGGLE. ASK ANY PARENT RAISING SMALL CHILDREN IN THIS BIZARRE WORLD IS AWFUL AND UNFAIR. OUR KIDS ARE BEING ROBBED OF THEIR PRECIOUS CHILDHOOD FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. WE ARE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE AND WE ARE DESIGNED TO THRIVE ON THIS PLANET. DO YOU REALIZE THE DAMAGE YOU'RE DOING ON EVERY LEVEL BY CONTINUING TO TRAUMATIZE OUR CHILDREN THIS WAY? HELLO. PLEASE PROVIDE THIS STUDY AND DATA TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE THEY MOW THE VOTE. 70 PERCENT OF THOSE WHO TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVERT WAR MASK ALL THE TIME. JUST THREE POINT NINE PERCENT OF THOSE WHO TESTED POSITIVE NEVER OR RARELY WORE MASKS. PLEASE. AND THE MASK MANDATE.

THAT'S FROM VALERIE BOBAK LARA ,GHANA'S GANI. SORRY TO PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME INCORRECTLY. PLEASE KEEP THE MASK MANDATES IN PLACE.

THE SCIENCES STATISTICS HAVE PROVEN THEY ARE MORE EFFECTIVE AND REQUIRE EVERYONE TO WEAR ONE. WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO MOVE MORE FREEDOMS BY CREATING SAFER SETTINGS IN WHICH TO OPERATE BUSINESSES ENJOY RECREATION AND ALLOW OUR CHILDREN TO INTERACT WITH PEERS. AS A RESIDENT WE'RE UNDERLYING WITH UNDERLYING HEALTH CONCERNS . I WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE TRAPPED IN MY HOUSE IF NOT FOR THE MASS MANDATES. THANK YOU. AND LET'S SEE I JUST HAVE A FEW

MORE. >> ONE RESOLVE TO MASK ORDINANCES PERMITTING A NORMALIZED HARASSMENT AND TO DIAL UP SERVICE TO VULNERABLE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE HISTORICALLY PROTECTED THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS SENSORY DISORDERS, PTSD, HEALTH ISSUES, MEDICAL DISABILITIES AND EVEN OUR YOUNG CHILDREN. THE MASS MANDATE SPECIFICALLY EXEMPTS IDENTIFIES EXEMPTIONS. HOWEVER, THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE BUSINESSES ARE NOT HONORING AND OBEYING THIS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE HAS WEAPONIZED CITIZENS AGAINST EACH OTHER. THEY CANNOT REPRESENT YOUR INTENTIONS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY.

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WHAT RHETORIC CONCUSSIONS DO DO THAT MOTHER AND OTHERS LIKE HER HAVE.

WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION AND START ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SPEAK WITH AN ATTORNEY.

THESE VULNERABLE POPPER POPULATIONS HAVE RIGHTS AND PROTECTIONS NOT JUST PER YOUR ORDINANCE BUT UNDER HIPPO. AND A D.A. THAT CAME FROM JEFF LINKING LISA MAKING I ASSUME THAT'S A HUSBAND AND WIFE. HOWEVER, I CAN'T LET THE SIGHT OF ME THAT COUNTS MY BLESSINGS SILENCE THE REALITY OF THE PAIN OF OUR FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS OUR XP EXPERIENCING FROM THE MASS MANDATE MANY MOMS ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL HARM THIS IS DOING TO OUR CHILDREN. VE MAILED YOU ARTICLES ABOUT IT A LOT BUT I CAN'T CAPTURE THE DAILY REALITY. OUR CHILDREN ARE NOT SEEING THE SMILES OF THEIR TEACHERS AND FRIENDS. THEY CAN'T HUG OR EVEN STAND RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR VERY BEST FRIENDS. OUR CHILDREN WITH SPECIAL NEEDS OR SENSORY DISORDERS ARE BEING SHAMED AND BULLIED. OUR KIDS ARE SUFFERING THROUGH ISOLATION.

IN LATE SEPTEMBER THE PEDIATRIC EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AT DOCTORS HOSPITAL IN AUGUSTA, GEORGIA SAW A HIGH INCREASE WITH TREATING CASES THEN PETCO IN A MASK SHAPED ON CHILDREN'S FACE IN PETCO IS AN INFECTION THAT CAUSES RASHES, SORES, BLISTERS USUALLY IN A CHILD'S DIAPER.

DID YOU CATCH THIS MASK ARE CAUSING DIAPER RASH ON OUR CHILDREN'S FACES AND BROOKE ERICKSON SAYS PLEASE VOTE NO FOR THE MASK ORDINANCE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MY CHILDREN'S SCHOOL AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING LOCAL ORDINANCE. THIS IS A REPEAT OF ONE THAT I'VE RAN. THAT'S A REPEAT THAT'S REPEAT. AND DONNA MORRIS AS PLEASE MAINTAIN THE MASK MANDATE FOR AS LONG AS IT IS REQUIRED. MOST PEOPLE HAVE WILLINGLY.

OH, AND THAT'S REPEAT AS WELL. OK. AND THAT IS ALL OF THE ITEMS

THAT CAME IN OK ON THE SCREEN ARE THE ONES THAT WERE EMAILED. >> THE ONES THAT YOU JUST READ

ARE THE ONES THAT CAME THROUGH THE NEW SYSTEM. >> ROB, BOTH I READ THE ONES THAT CAME TO THE NEW SYSTEM AND THE ONES THAT CAME THROUGH THE E MAIL.

>> THESE ARE THE ONES THAT CAME THROUGH THE E MAIL. THERE ARE MORE.

OK, WE'RE LET'S SEE. I'D LIKE SOME OTHER COUNCIL PERSON READ SO THAT I DON'T BECOME HORSE GERMAN THESE GERMAN. GO AHEAD MR. RODMAN.

WE HAVE A 15 MINUTE LIMITED ACCORDING TO OUR COUNCIL. >> YES.

I'M NOW AT TWENTY SEVEN MINUTES. I HAVEN'T HELPED.

WE HAVE ANOTHER SEGMENT AT THE END. THAT THAT IS CORRECT.

I CAN STOP THESE AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND READ THOSE AFTER WE HAVE FINISHED OUR DELIBERATIONS. OK, SO WE WILL READ THE REST OF THOSE AFTER WE CONTINUE ON.

[9. LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS]

SO WE'LL CLOSE THESE CITIZEN COMMENTS AND GO TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.

ARE THERE ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS OR LAYERS ON REPORTS? AND I DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT I

WOULD LIKE TO SAY DURING THIS SEGMENT. >> ANY ANY REPORTS AT ALL? OK, SEEING NONE OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TELL THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE.

IS THIS WHEN YOU ARE VOTING? IF YOU ARE VOTING ABSENTEE BY MAIL IN BALLOT ORIGINALLY YOU RECEIVED NOTIFICATION THAT YOUR WITNESS SIGNATURE WAS NOT REQUIRED AND BALLOTS WERE BEING MAILED OUT. WITHOUT A WITNESS SIGNATURE THEN IT WAS TAKEN TO COURT AND THE COURTS DECIDED THAT IN FACT YOU MUST HAVE A WITNESS SIGNATURE.

SO IF YOU HAVE MAILED YOUR BALLOT IN AFTER THIS DECISION WAS MADE AND DO NOT HAVE YOUR WITNESS SIGNATURE YOUR BALLOT WILL NOT BE COUNTED. SO IT IS MY SUGGESTION THAT YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU IF YOU ARE NOW VOTING ABSENTEE AND MAILING IN YOUR BALLOT THAT YOU HAVE A WITNESS SIGNATURE. AND IF YOU HAVE MAILED IT IN WITHOUT A WITNESS SIGNATURE THAT YOU ATTEMPT TO CONTACT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS TO SEE HOW YOU COULD RECTIFY THAT.

ANY OTHER REPORTS BEFORE WE GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? MR. RODMAN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO BALLOT MAY NOT BE COUNTED IF THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A PROVISIONAL SO THAT THEY CAN STILL VOTE A PROVISIONAL BALLOT.

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>> AND THE SYSTEM WILL CATCH UP WITH IT. KIM, OK.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

THANK YOU. OK. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW TO PAGE NUMBER THREE WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. MAY I HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND

FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SO MOVEMENT. >> I'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. HERBERT SHAWN. >> THE SECOND ONE WAS MADE BY MISS HOPWOOD. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NO DISCUSSION.

I WILL CALL THE QUESTION AND WE WILL MOVE THIS WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA SEEING NONE THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED AS

[11. AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR FACE COVERINGS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AND LOCATIONS IN THE LIMITS OF THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE]

SHOWN, OK. WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN IS AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR FACE COVERINGS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AND LOCATIONS IN THE LIMITS OF THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT SOUTH CAROLINA AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE SEVERABILITY AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I WOULD ASK A MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE.

SO MOVE. MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. MCKELLEN MAKES THE MOTION A SECOND.

MR GLOVER MAKES THE SECOND SO THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A ONE SIDED CONVERSATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF COUNCIL WEIGH IN ON THIS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

OKAY. MR. MCKELLEN, GO AHEAD. I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN. I KNOW THAT THIS IS A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.

TODAY IT WAS REPORTED WORLDWIDE THAT MORE THAN 1 MILLION NEW CASES HAVE SHOWN UP IN THE PAST THREE DAYS. THE WORLD HAS RECORDED THE HIGHEST TOTAL EVER IN SUCH A SHORT TIME SPAN WHICH IS A REFLECTION OF RESURGENCE IS IN EUROPE AND THE UNITED STATES AND ON INTERRUPTED OUTBREAKS IN INDIA, BRAZIL AND OTHER COUNTRIES.

THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES IS GROWING FASTER THAN EVER WORLDWIDE.

THE SECOND WAVE IN EUROPE HAS DIMMED HOPES OF A REBOUND FROM THE ECONOMIC CATASTROPHE DELIVERED BY THE PANDEMIC. EUROPEAN CENTRAL BANK'S CHIEF ECONOMIST CAUTIONED THAT THE 19 COUNTRIES OF THE EUROZONE MIGHT NOT RECOVER UNTIL 2022 AND THERE ARE SOME IN THE UNITED STATES SUGGESTING THAT IT WILL BE THE SAME HERE FOR US. THE SECOND WAVE OF CORONA VIRUS INFECTIONS STRUCK WELL BEFORE FLU SEASON HAS EVEN STARTED WITH INTENSIVE CARE WARDS FILLING UP AGAIN. BARS AND RESTAURANTS SHUTTING DOWN AGAIN.

SPAIN THIS WEEK DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR MADRID AMID INCREASING TENSIONS BETWEEN LOCAL AND NATIONAL AUTHORITIES OF THE VIRUS. CONTAINMENT MEASURES GERMANY HAS OFFERED UP SOLDIERS TO HELP WITH CONTACT TRACING. ITALY HAS MANDATED MASKS OUTDOORS AND WARNED THAT THE HEALTH SYSTEM WAS FACING SIGNIFICANT CRITICAL ISSUES AFTER CASE NUMBERS FELL STEADILY IN APRIL AND MAY. CASES IN THE UNITED STATES ARE GROWING AGAIN AT ABOUT THE SAME RAPID PACE AS ONE INFECTIONS WERE EXPLODING IN NEW YORK CITY IN MARCH. BUT THE HOTSPOTS ARE NOW MAINLY SPREAD ACROSS THE SOUTHERN AND WESTERN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND NEW INFECTIONS WERE REPORTED FRIDAY, WHICH IS A TWO MONTH HIGH IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. HOWEVER, THERE IS GOOD NEWS WAS REPORTED TODAY THAT THE CORONA VIRUS SPREADS SLOWED IN MOST BEAUFORT COUNTY ZIP CODES WITHIN FIVE WEEKS AFTER LOCAL MASK MANDATES WENT INTO EFFECT THIS PAST SUMMER.

THE DATA APPEARS TO SHOW HOW EFFECTIVE THE AREA'S RULES WERE.

BY EARLY AUGUST WHEN DALEY CASE COUNTS BEGAN TO DROP IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AFTER A SURGE OF INFECTIONS IN JULY IN JULY WE HAD SOMETIMES OVER A HUNDRED CASES A DAY.

AFTER ABOUT FIVE OR SIX WEEKS INTO LATE AUGUST AND INTO SEPTEMBER IT FELL TO ABOUT 30 A DAY AND RECENTLY IT HAS FALLEN INTO THE TEENS. THE HAS TOUTED MASK ORDINANCES AS BEING KEY TO ROLLING THE DEADLY PATHOGEN, NOTING POSITIVE EFFECTS IN THREE STATEWIDE ANALYSIS OF NEW CASES. THE AGENCY SAID IN COMPARISON TO SPOTS WITHOUT MASK MANDATES, AREAS WITH THE ORDINANCE HAD SEEN A GREATER PERCENTAGE

DECREASE IN CASES A MONTH AFTER THEIR RULES WENT INTO EFFECT. >> SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE MASK ORDINANCES, ALMOST ALL OF THE COUNTY'S ZIP CODES HAVE SEEN A NOTICEABLE DECREASE IN

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DISEASE SPREAD. POST ORDINANCE IN BLUFFTON ZIP CODE OF 2 9 9 10 WHICH HAD REPORTED THE COUNTY'S HIGHEST NUMBER OF CASES THIS YEAR THE WEEK BEFORE ITS MANDATE WENT INTO EFFECT JULY 1. TOTAL CASES HAD INCREASED BY 42 PERCENT BY AUGUST 5.

THAT INCREASE HAD DROPPED TO JUST ELEVEN PERCENT. BOTH HILTON HAD ZIP CODES IMPROVEMENTS TO 9 9 2 6 AND HILTON HEAD HAD A WEEKLY PERCENTAGE INCREASE OF 39 PERCENT JUST BEFORE THE TOWN'S MASS MANDATE WENT INTO EFFECT ON AUGUST 4TH.

THAT INCREASE HAD FALLEN TO 9 PERCENT. MOST OF THE ZIP CODES COVERING PARTS OF UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY ALSO SAW POSITIVE TRENDS AND THE CITY OF BEAUFORT ZIP CODE 2 9 9 0 2 WAS SOMEWHAT HARD TO ANALYZE. HOWEVER, WHEN THEY IMPOSED THEIR MASK MANDATE JUNE 30TH SIX WEEKS LATER THE INCREASE HAD GONE DOWN TO JUST 11

PERCENT. >> BEYOND THE FIVE WEEKS OF CASE DATA THAT THE NEWSPAPERS HAVE ANALYZED, BEAUFORT COUNTY'S CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK TOOK A POSITIVE TURN IN SEPTEMBER. LIKE MUCH OF THE STATE BUT HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE NOW DOWN DAILY. CASE COUNTS HAVE FALLEN THE AVERAGE PERCENTAGE OF POSITIVE COVID 19 TESTS WEEK TO WEEK HAS DROPPED TO THE SINGLE DIGITS. AND SO I GO FORWARD FROM HERE WITH THE CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND BELIEF THAT MASKS PHYSICAL DISTANCE AND GOOD HYGIENE AVOIDING LARGE GATHERINGS AND SPREADING THE VIRUS BY TOUCHING YOUR FACE.

THE ONLY VIABLE PROTECTIVE OPTIONS WE HAVE UNTIL EFFECTIVE THERAPEUTICS AND THE VACCINE ARE DEVELOPED AND WE COULD BE IN FOR A VERY LONG WAIT. IN THAT REGARD THANK YOU MR.

CHAIRMAN. OK, MR. FLOWING THANKS. >> I DON'T CONTEST MR. MCGOWAN'S DATA AND COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT THE ONLY EFFECTIVE MEASURE WE HAVE IS TO WEAR MASS REGARD OUR PERSONAL HYGIENE ATTENTIVELY AVOID CROWDS.

THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT KEY POINTS. HOWEVER I DISAGREE THAT IT IS INCUMBENT UPON THE GOVERNMENT TO MANDATE ANY KIND OF BEHAVIOR LIKE THIS.

AND I'M REALLY CONFUSED THAT THAT WE SEEM TO BE REQUIRING MASKS OF EVERYBODY WHEN REALLY IT WOULD IT WOULD BE ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT RISK. THAT SHOULD BE WEARING THE MASKS EVERYBODY ELSE. IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE ALL THAT EFFECTIVE.

IT IS EFFECTIVE FOR PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE AT RISK FOR GETTING VERY, VERY SICK AND I THINK IT'S JUST TIME TO BE DONE WITH THIS, FOLKS. WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

MR. RODMAN MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY. OUR CURRENT AUDIENCE WHICH IS GETTING READY TO ASPIRE DOES NOT INCLUDE BEING OUTSIDE BUT IT DOES INCLUDE GOING INTO ENCLOSURES, BUILDINGS THAT HAVE THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. IT SEEMS TO ME AN OPTION THAT'S IN BETWEEN WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MAKING IT OPTIONAL FOR THE BUSINESS TO MANDATE THE MASK AND TO SUPPORT THEM. SO BE KIND OF LIKE AN NO MASK, NO SHIRT, NO SERVICE AND LEAVE IT LEAVE IT UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS AND UP.

AND BUSINESS DOES NOT MANDATE IT THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN MAKE THAT DECISION THEMSELVES AND IF THEY THINK IT'S UNSAFE THEN THE LEVEL OF BUSINESS IN THAT

ESTABLISHMENT WILL DECLINE. >> I'M KIND OF LEANING TOWARD THAT AS AS PERHAPS A WAY TO

BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN THE TWO POSITIONS. >> MR. HARVEY SHAWN.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO START HERE WHICH IS NOT CLEARLY WHERE I START WITH TOM THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. BUT YOU KNOW, THE PANDEMIC IS A REALLY HARD TIME FOR EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY IS GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME.

I THINK RIGHT NOW REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE YOU'RE ON ON THIS ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AND IT'S VERY DIVISIVE WE NEED TO BE EMPATHETIC WITH EACH OTHER. WE NEED TO NOT BE PUBLICLY SHAMING EACH WHETHER WE'RE WEARING A MASK OR NOT WEARING A MASK.

I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE. I DON'T THINK IT'S HELPFUL. FRANKLY, I'M BOTHERED BY SOME

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OF THE COMMENTS IN THE POST I'M SEEING ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT ARE DOING THAT.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S HELPFUL. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO STOP. SO THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SCIENCE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK VERY HARD TO FIND SCIENCE EVERYWHERE.

AND WE CAN ARGUE THAT UP AND DOWN. BUT I THINK THAT AND I'VE SAID

THIS BEFORE I SAID IT WITH THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE. >> SO A NUMBER OF TIMES WE NEED

SOME SORT OF DEFINITIVE METRIC THAT WE WERE GOING TO GO BY. >> THAT'S GOING TO LET ME START GOING BACK TO NORMAL. AND WE HAVEN'T DEBATED THAT. WE NEED TO DEBATE.

THAT'S IT. THIS CAN'T GO ON INDEFINITELY FOREVER IN THE EVENT THAT WE SEE SOME SORT OF A FALSE SPIKE IN CASES. WHAT IS OUR NEXT RECOURSE OR WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ON THE MASS WEALTH WE'RE GOING TO DO SO WE DO NEED THE DEBATE THAT WE NEED AND WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO NORMAL OR THINK ABOUT GOING BACK TO NORMAL. NOW IN THE EVENT THAT THIS DOESN'T PASS, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT BUSINESSES CAN'T REQUIRE MASKS. MR. ROBBINS POINT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULDN'T WEAR A MASK. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T WEAR A MASK. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO WEAR A MASK.

YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN WEAR MASKS. AND THAT'S THE THING THAT'S GOOD FOR YOU TO DO.

THAT'S YOUR PERSONAL CHOICE. I'M ALWAYS GOING TO LEAN TO THE SIDE OF PERSONAL FREEDOM AND PERSONAL LIBERTY ON THIS. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE REQUIRING THAT.

I DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD EXTEND THIS. AND TO THAT POINT, IF MR. ROBIN WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MAKE THISBUSINESSES, I WOULD BEO SECOND THAT.

BUT I DO IT BECAUSE THAT IS A STEP TOWARD GETTING GONE FOREVER HOPEFULLY.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE TELLING PEOPLE HOW TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AND HOW TO MAKE THEIR HANDS MAKE THEIR DECISIONS. THEY SHOULD BE MAKING THEM FOR

THEMSELVES. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. >> MR. COVID .

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AGREE WITH MR. HERBERT SHAWN THAT IF MR. ROBIN WANTS TO MAKE THAT AS EMOTION, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. BUT I WANT TO MAKE I WANT TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR WITH ALL MY COLLEAGUES ON COUNCIL AND TO THE AT ONE POINT EIGHTY FIVE PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK AND AS OF NOW FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY COMMENTS OR WHO ARE WATCHING US TONIGHT DO THE DUTY OF THE PEOPLE WE ARE IN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TIMES.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THE MASK MANDATE ALL ACROSS THE NATION HAS WIDELY BEEN DISCUSSED AND IT CONTINUES TO BE RIGHT NOW. ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY THERE ARE PEOPLE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW 19 STATES, SOME IF ANYBODY KNEW THAT 19 STATES RIGHT NOW DO NOT HAVE MASK MANDATES, 19 STATES ARE CLOSEST TO GEORGIA JUST REMOVE THEIRS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, IT IS NOT PROPER FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO BE MANDATING THE DAILY LIVES

OF ITS CITIZENS. >> PEOPLE ARE FREE. WE ARE FREE IN THIS COUNTRY TO MAKE A CHOICE TO EITHER WEAR MASK IF YOU ARE OF THAT AGE GROUP OR THAT COAT MORBIDITY, YOU SHOULD DO THAT. I AGREE. BUT IF YOU ARE PART OF THOSE UNAFFECTED BY THE VAST NUMBERS WE'VE SEEN NINETY NINE POINT EIGHT PERCENT DON'T GET IT OR GET OR CURED THEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WEAR IT THEN DON'T WEAR IT.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A DOCUMENT. THERE ARE DEFINED ARGUMENTS.

I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME FROM SOME OF SOME OF MY FRIENDS WHETHER YOU SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T WEAR THEM IN CHARACTERISTICALLY THEY'LL LOOK AT ME AS THEY CALL ME ANTON MASSACRE IN CARE MYSTICALLY THEY SAY WELL I'M LISTENING TO THE EXPERTS. I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO SCIENCE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO BACK UP, DO YOU? WELL, I KNOW ALL OF YOU GOT THE BARRINGTON DECLARATION. IT WAS SENT TO E MAIL TO ALL OF US.

I SENT IT TO ALL OF US AND I HOPE I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR A RAISE.

I HATE IT BUT I HOPE WE ALL READ THAT BECAUSE WE ALL TEND TO SAY THAT WE LISTEN TO D HECK, LISTEN TO THE CDC, LISTEN TO THE W.H. JOE. LISTEN HERE AND LISTEN THERE.

BUT WHO ACTUALLY IS LISTENING TO THIS DOCUMENTS AND ITS SIGNERS BECAUSE IT'S SIGNERS ARE SCIENTISTS. THIS JUST ANSWERS THE QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ASKED OF US AT TOM MASTERS. WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN SCIENCE? THESE ARE SCIENTISTS IF WE CONTINUE THIS MASK ORDINANCE AS IT'S WRITTEN, ALL OF US WILL BE SAYING THAT WE ARE SMARTER. AND PLEASE INDULGE ME HERE THAN DR. COLE DORFF OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY. DR. GUPTA OF OXFORD UNIVERSITY .

DR. BHATTACHARYA OF STANFORD. DR. BAHIA OF THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION.

DR. BREMMER OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SUSSEX. DR. BROOKS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF LIGHTSABER. DR. CALHOUN OF THE UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH.

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DR GALLOP DALGLISH OF THE UNIVERSITY OF LONDON. DR FOGEL OF HARVARD.

DR. FRIEDMAN OF TEL EVE UNIVERSITY. DR GAB ASH OF ISRAEL.

DR. JACKSON OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CANTERBURY. DR. YANG V.A. OF THE UNIVERSITY OF MONTREAL. DR. KATZ OF YALE UNIVERSITY. DR. KEVIN LEE ONUS OF THE COURT. CAROL LIGHT INSTITUTE IN SWEDEN .

DR. LASZLO RONEY OF STANFORD. DR. LEVITT, A NOBEL PRIZE WINNER OF STANFORD.

DR. LIVERMORE OF THE EAST UNIVERSITY OF EAST ANGLIA. DR LUDOVIC SUN OF ORA BLUE UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL IN SWEDEN. DR. MCKEE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH.

DR. MESSENGER OF TUFTS UNIVERSITY. DR. IMMUNITIES OF TEL AVIV UNIVERSITY. DR. MIRA. DOG LULU OF QUEEN MARY UNIVERSITY. DR. MUCH MEMBER OF NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF BIOMETRICS BIOMETRICS IN CAL YANI INDIA. DR. KIM RON OF TEL AVIV UNIVERSITY.

DR. RADCLIFFE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF YORK. DR. RICKER OF THE UNIVERSITY OF EXETER. DR. SHAHAR, THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.

DR. SIKORA OF THE UNIVERSITY OF BUCKINGHAM. DR. STRAUSS OF QUEEN'S UNIVERSITY. DR. STURTEVANT OF BAYLOR UNIVERSITY.

DR. THORNLEY OF THE UNIVERSITY OF AUCKLAND. DR.

TOWNSEND OF THE UNIVERSITY OF NOTTINGHAM. DR WHITE OF OXFORD UNIVERSITY.

DR WOOD OF THE UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH. AND THERE ARE STILL 5000 NINE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIVE MORE SCIENTISTS THAT ARE SAYING THE SAME THING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND PARAGRAPH MR CHAIRMAN OF THE BARRINGTON DOCUMENT IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. DID YOU KNOW IT SAYS THIS RIGHT HERE? AND I QUOTE KEEPING THESE MEASURES IN PLACE UNTIL A VACCINE IS AVAILABLE WILL CAUSE IRREPARABLE DAMAGE WITH THE UNDERPRIVILEGED DISPROPORTIONATELY HARMED.

THAT'S PRETTY SERIOUS. I THINK WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

WE KEEP THE SCIENTISTS, THE EXPERTS ARE SAYING THAT IF THIS CONTINUES THOSE THAT ARE UNDERPRIVILEGED WILL BE DISPROPORTIONATELY HARMED. SO THE QUESTION IS FIRST DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE MANDATING SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE HONESTLY PERSONALLY BELIEVE HAVE THE MENTALITY AND THE RIGHT TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES ? IF YOU DO IF YOU DO IF WE DO THEN TO THOSE PEOPLE WE ARE SAYING I AM SMARTER THAN YOU AND YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME. SECOND, IF WE FALL BACK ON THE EASY WAY OUT OF I'LL LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS THEN ARE THESE EXPERTS THAT JUST TALKED ABOUT AND THIS IS DOCUMENTED.

YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT. LOOK IT UP. IT'S RIGHT THERE.

THESE EXPERTS I JUST NAMED ARE THEY TO BE IGNORED? IT IS TIME TO END THIS.

AND WHILE STRONGLY, STRONGLY RECOMMENDING PEOPLE MASK UP, LET THEM DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND ALLOW BUSINESS OWNERS THE ABILITY TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS THE WAY BEST FOR THEM AND THEIR CLIENTS, I URGE YOU FOR THE SAKE OF CHILDREN, FOR THE SAKE OF THIS COUNTRY AND THIS ORDERED ITS VOTE NO. MR. COVID . YOU READ THE BARRINGTON REPORT, CORRECT? YOU ABSOLUTELY. YOU BELIEVE EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING AS DOES OVER SIX THOUSAND SCIENTISTS. OK.

YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAID THEY STARTED OFF TALKING ABOUT LOCK DOWNS.

THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN THE LOCK DOWNS. THEY BELIEVE IN A FOCUSED PROTECTION. FOCUSED PROTECTION MEANS TAKING MEASURES TO REDUCE YOUR EXPOSURE. AND WHEN YOU CITE PARAGON RAFTS, ADOPTING MEASURES TO PROTECT THE VULNERABLE, IT SHOULD BE THE CENTRAL AIM OF PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE AS THEY FURTHER SAY ONE OF THE GROUPS THEY'RE TARGETING IS RETIRED PEOPLE.

THEY BELIEVE THAT RETIRED PEOPLE SHOULD BE LIVING AT HOME .

THEY SHOULDN'T GO OUT. THEY SHOULD ONLY HAVE THEIR GROCERIES AND OTHER ESSENTIALS DELIVERED TO HOME. SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD MANDATE ANYBODY WHO IS RETIRED IN BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS TO STAY AT HOME. NO, I NEVER SAID THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE TAKING OFFENSE WITH WHAT I SAID BECAUSE I COULD HAVE READ THE ENTIRE REPORT. BUT YOU MADE MY POINT EXACTLY.

IT IS THE CODE MORBIDITY FOLKS. IT IS THE FOLKS WHO ARE EXPERIENCED IN H I BELIEVE

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THEY'RE SAYING 65 OR OLDER OR WHO HAVE HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT WOULD LEAD TO THIS.

THEY SHOULD. BUT YOU IF THAT'S YOU IF THAT'S MY PARENTS IF THAT'S TOM'S PARENTS SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES. THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

IF I HAD INFANCY OR ASTHMA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I PROBABLY WOULD DO THE SAME THING.

BUT I DON'T NEED AND WE SAW TONIGHT IN WHAT YOU READ AND I'M LOOKING AT IT ON SCREEN ON SCREEN HERE. PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF US ACTING LIKE WE ARE HOLIER THAN THOU AND DEMAND WHO WEAR MASKS UP AND WIN. KERRY WILLIAMS, THE MAYOR OF HARDY VILLE SAID IT BEST. I MEAN HE SHOULD DESERVE A MEDAL FOR THIS.

MY PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN THAN THIS. I DON'T NEED TO TELL THEM WHAT

TO DO BUT PLEASE MASK UP ANY OTHER COMMENTS, OK? >> IF THERE ARE NO MR. LAWSON,

YOU'RE STILL ON MR. ALL RIGHT. >> I AM UNWILLING NOW. YES.

AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS PASSION ON ON BOTH SIDES AS YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE SCIENCE AND THE FACTS. YOU ONE SIDE SEEMS CORRECT AND THE ONE SIDE SEEMS LIKE THAT'S HERE AND DEALT WITH AND THEN YOU LISTEN TO THE FOLKS WHO WANT TO KEEP MASKS AND KEEP US MASK AND THEY HAVE THE SAME SCIENCE AND FACTS THAT GO WITH IT MIGHT BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT WE ARE NOT A SELF-CONTAINED COMMUNITY. WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING HERE WHILE THEY'RE ON QUARANTINE GET AWAY FROM PLACES THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

AND I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THAT. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE FROM ALL OVER TO AVOID OTHER PLACES AND THAT'S A FACT AS MUCH AS WE DON'T WANT TO ADMIT DO MASS WORK 100 PERCENT OF TIME. NO, THEY DO NOT DO MASS WORK.

SOME OF THE TIME I CAN SAY PROBABLY THEY DO. AND THE REASON WE PUT THE MASK ORDER EMPLOYEES WAS BECAUSE OF PUBLIC SAFETY NOT TO TAKE AWAY SOMEONE'S RIGHT.

AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU GET VACCINES BEFORE YOU START SCHOOL. YOUR KIDS CAN GO TO SCHOOL. SO.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S A RIGHT THAT WE'VE TAKEN WHAT YOU HAVE TO GET A VACCINE.

WHENEVER YOU'RE ASKED TO CROSS IN A CROSSWALK TO GET SOMETHING AS PUBLIC SAFETY THAT'S PUT IN PLACE A SIMPLE THINGS AS STOPPING AT A STOP SIGN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.

BUT AGAIN IT'S IT'S A IT'S SOMETHING IS PUT IN PLACE TO DO IT.

I THINK I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT DRINKING AND DRIVING. YOU CAN DRINK AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO AT HOME BUT AS SOON AS YOU GET BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A CAR THERE ARE RULES IN PLACE THAT NOT ONLY PROTECT YOU BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW I AM NOT FOR A MASK. IF YOU ASKED ME BACK JANUARY BEFORE THIS ALL STARTED I WOULD'VE TOLD YOU THERE WAS NO WAY THAT I WAS EVER GOING TO VOTE FOR A MASK.

AUDIENCE I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A LIBERTARIAN AT HEART. BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY YET TO UNMASK. I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY YET FOR THAT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT WE CAN'T CAUSE I AS STUART MENTIONED OR 60 NOW WOULD BE SOMETHING WHEN GET RID OF . BUT AGAIN IT'S KIND LIKE THE TEXTING AND DRIVING THAT WILL SOMEDAY JUST HAPPEN. THE GOVERNMENT TOOK YOUR RIGHT AWAY TO TEXT WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING. IT WAS DONE TO PROTECT YOU. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE AND THOSE ARE PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE WE CAN'T RELY ON MOST PEOPLE WON'T TEXT AND DRIVE. HOWEVER, THERE'S STILL THAT SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE THERE. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RELYING ON THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN PLACE TO PROTECT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO YOU KNOW, I WILL VOTE FOR IT. AND I'VE HEARD PEOPLE FROM BOTH SIDES AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I AGREE WITH BOTH SIDES. AND SO RIGHT NOW YOU GOING TO DO WHAT I THINK IS BEST AT THIS POINT TO HELP AND PROTECT AS MANY PEOPLE AS I CAN.

>> ARE WE READY TO CALL THE QUESTIONS GLOVER? DO YOU WANT TO I CAN DO REAL QUICK. MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW I WOULD TELL ANYBODY YOU WHEN THE FIRST THOUGHT ABOUT THOUGHT ABOUT MASK WEARING I WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LAST ONE OF MY FAMILY TO DO SO. BUT I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AND I FOLLOW SCIENCE. I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT WHO US DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS THAT WOULD SAY ANYTHING. I USED TO WORK FOR AN

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ORGANIZATION CLEMSON UNIVERSITY AND A LOT OF TIMES THESE SPECIALISTS EVEN THOSE THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH MAY NOT SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING SOURCE.

SO PEOPLE KIND OF DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. I GATHER FROM OTHER SCIENCE IN ALL AND WANTS TO ME ALWAYS VOTE DOING THE RIGHT THING. SO I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS TO CONTINUE TO WEAR A MASK UNTIL THIS EPIDEMIC OR THIS PANDEMIC IS IS BEHIND US. THE 1918 PANDEMIC TOOK TWO YEARS BEFORE IT GOT RESOLVED

WITH A VACCINE. >> I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THING UNTIL SOMETHING BETTER HAPPENS. THANK YOU, MR. RODMAN, WHERE WE GET CLARIFICATION FROM LEGAL IF THEY COULD WEIGH IN ON THAT IF WE WERE NOT PASS THIS DOES A SOMEBODY WHO OWNS IT

ESTABLISHMENTS IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. >> THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DENY SERVICE OR ENTRY TO SOMEBODY WHO DOES NOT HAVE A MASK. I THINK BROADLY SPEAKING THERE IS SUCH RIGHT OVER A BEAUTIFUL SONG TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IF IT WERE APPLIED EVENLY AND UPRIGHT AND APPLIED IN A DISCRIMINATORY MANNER. I THINK A BUSINESS CAN MAKE A

DETERMINATION LIKE THAT. OK. >> SO IT SEEMS TO ME THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE I TOLD HIM I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE A MOTION YET BUT WOULD BE IF WE VOTE FOR THIS WE'RE VOTING FOR A MANDATORY INSIDE OF AN ENCLOSURE WITH THE EXCEPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT BEFORE AND IF WE WERE TO VOTE AGAINST IT WE'RE MAKING IT OPTIONAL FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OWNER TO REQUIRE OR NOT REQUIRE A MASK AND TAKE THE RISK OF WHETHER OR

NOT HE WILL LOSE BUSINESS. >> IT'S SET IN MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ON THE FLOOR FOR THE MASK ORDINANCE AS IT STANDS. I HAVE A QUESTION.

WE LEAVE VOTING WITHOUT AN AMENDMENT TO VOTING YES. WE ARE SO SORRY.

OK. ARE WE READY TO CALL THE QUESTION? ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHAT IS THE MOTION MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE MASSIVE ORDINANCE AS STATED ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA, CORRECT? GOTCHA.

OK, WE'RE MOVING COUNCIL THIS IS AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE THAT DOES REQUIRE TO THOUGHTS AND IT

EXPIRED AS OF THE SIXTY FIRST DAY. >> CORRECT.

OK. >> I'LL FIX IT. BASICALLY SAID WHAT WE HAD BEFORE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

>> OK. OK. OK.

MR. MCKELLEN, YOU MADE THE MOTION YOU GET TO VOTE FIRST. YES, MR. GLOVER.

YES. MR. CULVERT . NO.

MR. DAWSON. YES. MR. FLOOR WELLING.

NO. MR. HARVEY. SHAWN.

NOW MISS HOWARD. >> YES. MR. LAWSON.

MARK LAWSON. YES, MR. SOMERVILLE. YES.

MR. RUDMAN. MR. RUDMAN. NO.

CHAIR VOTES YES. >> THE MOTION IS DEFEATED 7 YES.

4 NO. >> OK. >> WE ARE NOW AT ITEM NUMBER

TWELVE. >> I APOLOGIZE. CAN YOU DO MR. DAWSON MR. BLUE ALLEN'S THAT IS AGAIN A SOFTWARE THAT MR. DAWSON WAS A YES.

>> MR. FLUE WILLING WAS A NO. 7 YES. 4 NO.

MOTION IS DEFEATED. >> YES, SIR. WOULD YOU SAY THE MOTION THE MOTION ACCORDING TO WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. GOT SEVEN VOTES AND YOU SAID IT WAS DEFEATED. IT REQUIRES EIGHT VOTES TO PASS.

OK. OK. >> WE'RE ITEM NUMBER 12.

[12. County Council Agenda – Beaufort County, SC 12. FIRST READING OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE 2020-2021 BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET ORDINANCE (Part 1 of 2)]

FIRST READING OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE 20 21 BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET ORDINANCE.

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AS WE DISCUSSED THERE, IT'S A CONCERN ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO ENSURE THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT I MEAN I'M SORRY THE AMOUNT OF MILLS IS IN THE ORDINANCE MATCHES TO THE ORDINANCE ITSELF. THE BILLS AND THE ORDINANCE DON'T MATCH.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT. >> NOW AS I INDICATE DID ON AUGUST THE 18TH, MR. BURKHARDT SENT AN E-MAIL TO COUNTY COUNCIL STATING THAT THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS WAS GOING TO INCREASE TO FIVE POINT EIGHT MILLS FROM FOUR POINT EIGHT

MILLS. >> AND HE BASED HIS REASONING ON SAYING THAT THE DEBT THE DEBT SINKING FUND WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS AND IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO MAKE A NEW PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST FOR THE TOTAL DEBT PAYMENT FOR 2021. SO THE QUESTION IS DID HE MAKE THE CORRECT CALCULATION TO REQUIRE THE ADDITIONAL MILL SINCE THIS WAS DONE ON AUGUST 18TH ALMOST A MONTH AFTER WE MORE THAN A MONTH AFTER WE PASSED THE ORDINANCE? AND IT'S AS IT HAS BEEN STATED IN HIS DUTY TO DO THIS USING THE MATH WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL WE HAVE JUST DISCUSSION OF MR. CHAIRMAN MADE BY THE ISSUE IN FRONT OF US NOW IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO AMEND OUR ORDINANCE SO THAT THE PARODY LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE AND THE NUMBERS STATED IN THE ORDINANCE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THAT

THE INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL MILLAGE ITEMS THAT WE PUT IN. >> IN OTHER WORDS THE VERSE IF WE WANT TO SAY IT THIS WAY THE HONORABLE PART OF OUR AUDIENCE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH A MATHEMATICAL PART OF LOWER. I THINK THE SIMPLE MATTER IN ON ADVICE OF COUNSEL EARLIER TODAY THIS CANNOT BE SIMPLY CHANGED AS WE ARE GREATER THERE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE GREATER

READINGS AND A PUBLIC HEARING. >> MY THEORY WOULD MAKE AN OBSERVER WILLING TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT THE LEARNING OF THE FLOODWALL THAT WE PREVIOUSLY PASSED BE AMENDED SO THAT THE NUMBERS AGREE WITH THE ACTUAL MATH OF THE INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL MILLAGE ITEMS THAT

ARE CONTAINED IN THE ORDINANCE. >> SO THAT WOULD SIMPLY MEAN THAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD SAY COUNTY CANNOT FORECLOSE 60 OR 60 FIVE POINT TWO IN ORDER TO 1 IN ORDER TO MATCH WHAT IS ON THE BILLS. WE WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO MILLS BY MUST BE MISTAKEN THERE BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD TO APPROVE IT.

>> PEOPLE. YEAH CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR POINTING.

SO. SO WHAT WE WOULD WANT THE PERSON I WOULD MAKE IS THAT THE THAT WE AMEND OUR INITIAL ORDINANCE TO READ THAT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MILLS TO BE TO BE BUILD BY BEAUFORT COUNTY TO OUR TAX PAYERS EQUAL SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO MIL AND AS AS SPECIFIED MATHEMATICALLY IN THE ORDER IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT THAT'S NO LONGER A SECOND

AT MOST. >> OK, SO THIS IS A FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE.

>> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SECOND READING AND A PUBLIC HEARING. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO BE TELLING ADMINISTRATION TO PREPARE THE DOCKET ONCE AS SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO NOT THE CONVOLUTED DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE. MR. WELLING YEAH.

REAL QUICKLY. HAYES I ASKED YOU A POINTED QUESTION ABOUT THE DATA THAT WE HAD RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE VOTE ON THAT THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT WE ORIGINALLY DID IN I THINK MAY AND EARLY JUNE. AND I ASKED YOU SPECIFIC DID THE DATA REGARDING THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM COUNTY PURCHASE PROPERTY THAT MILLAGE CALCULATION AND THE

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COUNTY DEBT PART THAT THEN THERE? DID THEY INCLUDE THE PAYMENTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE REQUIRED OF THE COUNTY IN I BELIEVE MARCH AND AUGUST 20 21 DID THOSE AMOUNTS THAT WE HAD LISTED CHAIRS INCLUDE THE AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PAY ON THOSE TWO ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES THAT COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN KNOWN AT THE TIME BUT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ESTIMATED. DID THEY INCLUDE ESTIMATES FOR THOSE PAYMENTS OR WERE THEY COMPLETELY LACKING AT THAT? WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

>> THEY WEREN'T FROM THE MILL. WE HAD A WATCH AND WE PUT IT IN THERE.

WE TALKED TO OUR BUDGET COUNSEL. WE WERE CONCERNED THAT WE COULD GO A LITTLE BIT INTO INTO OUR THAT'S SOME THAT'S THE WRONG ONE.

WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE, SARA? WELL, WE WERE RIGHT ABOUT. >> ACTUALLY THAT'S THE ONE I WANTED TO SEE. THAT'S A MILITARY ONE. OK.

IT WAS THE OTHER ONE THAT HAD THE THREE DIFFERENT MO THERE. >> JOE, STOP BREATHING SO

HEAVY. >> NOT ME. SOMEBODY SOMEBODY WITH ONE

OF THOSE MONKEY HEAD SET EVEN IN PREDICTOR PRESSMAN 0. >> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MEET

YOU. >> WHICH ONE? HAYES.

FOUR FIVE POINT ONE POINT EIGHT. >> WHICH ONE DID YOU BEFORE THE NO DRINKING THREE SCENARIOS. YEAH. AT FAR TWENTY TWENTY FIVE

TWENTY ONE BUDGET GO. >> SO BASICALLY I READ THESE NUMBERS RAN INTO THE NERVE THOUSANDS IN IT HAD THE REGIONAL BUDGET OF FOUR POINT EIGHT IT HAD AUDITORS AND FIVE COPY AND A DIFFERENT SCENARIO WE RAN IT JUST BREAK EVEN AND WE TOOK IN TO ACCOUNT THE TERM OF BUDGETED AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE DATA SERVICE BECAUSE ON THE RURAL AND CRITICAL YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT INTEREST ONLY PAYMENTS WE DO THEN OF THE DAY THAT WE WON'T GO ABOUT SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND INTO INTO THE FUND BALANCE WE HAVE A PROJECTED FUND BALANCES ABOUT THREE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS LEAVE US WITH APPROXIMATELY TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR FUND BALANCE RAN THE AUDITORS NUMBERS. HE'S ON THAT OUT AT ABOUT ONE POINT FOUR MILLION AND SO HE'S GONNA ADD THAT TO THE FUND BALANCE AND TWO POINT SIX AND END UP ABOUT FOUR MILLION BETWEEN HIS NUMBER AND IN OUR NUMBER IS ROUGHLY ABOUT TWO MILLION DIFFERENT AND WHAT WE WERE MANDATED TO DO BY COUNCIL WAS TO KEEP THE BILLS FLAT AND OUR LOWER AND THAT IS WHAT WE DID. WE KEPT THEM REVENUE NEUTRAL. RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. RIGHT. I WAS JUST I JUST MY SPECIFIC QUESTION WHAT DID THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE? BUT WHEN WE DISCUSSED KEEPING A REVENUE NOTE REVENUE NEUTRAL IN FACT EXACTLY THE SAME MILL CALCULATION AS PRIOR YEAR.

>> DID IT INCLUDE PAYMENTS FOR THE RURAL CRITICAL LANDS COUNTY PURCHASE PROPERTY BOND THAT WE FLOATED IN THAT WE ISSUED IN AUGUST THAT THOSE CALCULATIONS GET INCLUDED COUNSELING AS WELL THAT THERE WAS THERE WAS ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER WHAT WE THOUGHT OF WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IN THE REVENUE IN THE REVENUE ESTIMATE FOR IT. OK.

IT WAS IN THERE PLUS WHAT MIKE? OH PLEASE PLEASE ALLOW ME TO FINISH WITH MR. BECKER.

MIGHT NOT KNOW IS LEFT THREE MILLION DOLLAR PREMIUM THAT IS GOING TO PAY DOWN THAT PRINCIPAL ON THAT PARTICULAR BOND ISSUE, IS IT AND THAT THAT SO BASICALLY THE NUMBERS WERE THERE. OK. AND THEY WERE THERE.

I APPRECIATE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WAS GOOD QUESTION, BRIAN THAT THAT GIVES US SOME SOME INFORMATION DAMAGE HAPPENED IS PERTINENT.

YES. THIS IS JIM BAKKER, THE COUNTY AUDITOR.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION, PAUL RIGHT AHEAD. >> MR. BECKER, THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> WHILE I'M GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO LAST NOVEMBER WHEN IT

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BECAME KNOWN THAT WE'RE ALL IN CRITICAL LAND WAS GOING TO BORROW AN ADDITIONAL TWENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND THE START OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE FELL INTO THE COVE AND ALONG THOSE LINES THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING A 20 PERCENT REDUCTION IN REVENUES. SO WHEN THE BUDGET BOOK CAME OUT IT CLEARLY INDICATED THAT THE DEBT PAYMENT FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND WAS 10 MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THEN THERE WAS A HUGE REVISION TO THE BUDGET BOOK AND THAT NUMBER DIDN'T CHANGE IN THE SECOND PROVISION OF THE BUDGET BOOK. SO WE KEEP GOING DOWN THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND ON MAY 29 I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE COUNTY FINANCE DEPARTMENT THAT INDICATED THAT RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS DEBT SERVICE WAS GOING TO BE THE 10 MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN DEBT NOW COUNTY COUNCIL THAT NEXT MONTH WENT THROUGH THEIR THREE WORK OR WENT THROUGH THEIR THREE READINGS AND APPROVED THE BUDGET AND THEN THERE WAS THAT BOND THAT WAS AGREED TO BE SOLD FROM NOVEMBER FINALLY DID SELL IN AUGUST.

AND WHEN I RECEIVED THAT DEBT SCHEDULE FROM THE BOND ATTORNEY THAT INDICATED WHAT THOSE BOND AMOUNTS ARE AND THE ALLOCATIONS FOR SUCH THEY WERE ADDED TO THE TOTAL BOND SCHEDULE NOW AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, THE ORIGINAL COUNTY ORDINANCE SAYS SIXTY FIVE POINT TO TWO MILLS AND IT SHOULD SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO. THAT IS WHAT THAT SENTENCE THERE SAYS WITH THE AUDITOR IS TO LEVY. SO WHEN WE PUT THE NUMBERS INTO THE COMPUTER SYSTEM AND WE STARTED GENERATING THE TAX LEVY CARD AND PUTTING IN THE DEBT SERVICE FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS WITH THAT BOND THAT SOLD IT INCREASED THE DEBT OBLIGATION BY ONE MILL. AND I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE ONE COMMENT THAT ADMINISTRATION HAD MADE EARLIER. IT WAS BECAUSE OF COVERED AND WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS. AND IT WAS A VERY GREAT CONCERN BECAUSE IT WAS A CONCERN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS WELL THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE REDUCED RECEIVABLES IN A TIMELY WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEBT PAYMENTS CAN BE MADE. AND WITH THAT 20 PERCENT IF YOU TAKE 20 PERCENT OF 10 MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS. SO IF THE PAYMENTS COME IN SLOW BECAUSE OF CLOSING, YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE THAT BOND PAYMENT AND IT IS THE AUDITORS RESPONSE ABILITY TO CALCULATE AND LEVY THOSE BASED ON THE SCHEDULES AND THE DEBT THINKING FUND AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT COUNTY COUNCIL HEAD STATED WITH REGARDS TO COLLECTIONS. SO THE MILLAGE WAS ASSIGNED AT FIVE POINT EIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN CASE THERE IS A 20 PERCENT REDUCTION IN PAYMENTS SO THAT THERE WOULD AT LEAST BE SOME CUSHION THERE.

SO THAT WHEN YOU HAVE TO USE THE DEBT THINKING FUND THAT RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS CURRENTLY HAS YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO USE ALL OF IT BUT THEN YOU COULD THEN THEN AS REVENUES CONTINUE TO COME IN YOU COULD ASSIGN THOSE DOLLARS TO THE DEBT THINKING FUND TO REPLACE THOSE NUMBERS. NOW I STAND BY THAT NUMBER. THE FIVE POINT EIGHT YOU ORDERED ME TO LEVY SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO MILS AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I LEVIED.

I DIDN'T GO INTO YOUR ORDINANCE AND ADD UP ALL THOSE MILLAGE. AND THAT IN THE SECTION RIGHT UNDERNEATH THAT TO DETERMINE THAT THERE WAS A NEW MIRACLE ERROR THAT WAS MADE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ORDINANCE BY WHOEVER DID THAT. I WAS ORDERED TO TO LEVY THE

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SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO WHEN WE PUT IN THE LEVY CARD. IT DEMONSTRATED THAT IT MATCHED THAT SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO. I GAVE AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY BASED ON BOND COUNSEL AND THE OTHER FACTORS THAT WERE PUT INTO PLAY WITH REGARDS TO THE DEBT MILEAGE THIS YEAR BACK IN JULY THE CHAIRMAN OF COUNTY COUNCIL ALSO CERTIFIED THAT BUDGET AND THOSE NUMBERS SO THAT SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO WAS CERTIFIED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

SO NOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND THOSE FUNDS HAVE NOW BEEN LEVIED BECAUSE THE TAXES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY, MANY YEARS HAVE ALL BEEN LEVIED AND ASSIGNED TO THE DUPLICATE BODY AUDITOR PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 30TH. NOW THERE IS NO WAY TO BACK OUT THAT ROLE AT THIS POINT. IF IT DOES TURN OUT THAT THAT 20 PERCENT THAT ADMINISTRATION SAID WAS GOING TO BE DELAYED IN COLLECTIONS IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN OR IF A IF THEY COME IN ON TIME THEN THERE WILL BE SUFFICIENT REVENUES STILL TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT.

AND THEN NEXT YEAR WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE DEBT KNOWLEDGE FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND AND IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THEIR DEBT THINKING FUN HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY OVER WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW NEXT YEAR DEBT MILLAGE FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL WOULD BE CONSIDERED AND REDUCED IN SOME FORM AND FASHION I HAVE AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU, JIM.

MR. CHAIRMAN. SO ORIGINALLY WHEN WE STARTED THE BUDGET PROCESS THERE WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT IMPACT IT WAS GOING TO HAVE ON THE BUDGET. AND SO INITIALLY WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT AND TALKING ABOUT A 20 PERCENT DECREASE IN REVENUES.

HOWEVER, THAT CHANGED AND WE NEVER USE 20 PERCENT DECREASE TO CREATE THE BUDGET.

SO THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. THE POINT IS THAT IF YOU CHANGE THE ORDINANCE IF YOU CHANGE THE EQUATION RIGHT NOW, WHAT'S IN THE TAX BILLS IS AN INCREASE OVER WHICH YOU'VE APPROVED.

>> SO AND COLLECTIONS ARE DOING VERY WELL RIGHT NOW AS YOU'VE SEEN FROM THE TREASURER.

SO IT'S NOT CORRECT. WE HAVE TAKEN TO ACCOUNT WHAT THE COSTS WILL BE FOR THE BOND AND AGAIN WE ARE PLANNING TO USE WE'RE PLANNING TO USE FRONT BALANCE TO PAY ALL THAT OFF.

BUT THERE IS ADEQUATE THERE ARE ADEQUATE REVENUES TO PAY FOR THAT BOND AND ANYTHING OVER THAT AS YOU CAN SEE FROM WHAT HEY SHOWED YOU IS A TAX INCREASE.

IF I MIGHT ADD IN THAT CASE THEN IF YOU IF YOU KNEW THAT THERE WAS A BOND PREMIUM AND I WROTE AN EMAIL TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATOR ON AUGUST 18TH IT SAID THAT I WAS GOING TO INCREASE THE DEBT MILLAGE FOR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS BY 1 MIL FROM AUGUST 18TH TO SEPTEMBER TWENTY NINTH. I RECEIVED NO QUESTIONS, NO INQUIRIES FROM IT ADMINISTRATION WORTH CLARIFYING POINTS OF CLARIFICATION FROM ADMINISTRATION OR ANYONE ON COUNTY COUNCIL. IT SAID THAT A THERE WAS A THREE MILLION DOLLAR PREMIUM OR THAT THEY FELT THAT THEY WERE IN THE POSITION THAT IT DIDN'T NEED TO HAPPEN.

SO THE AUDITORS RESPONSIBILITY IF THERE IS A HIGHER RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE AUDITOR WHEN IT COMES TO DEBT MILLAGE WHEN IT BECAUSE THE AUDITOR IS THE PERSON THAT DOES THOSE CALCULATIONS AND ACTUALLY LEVIES THOSE NILS IF I DIDN'T DO IT YOU COULD SIMPLY SAY ON THE BACKSIDE THAT THE AUDITOR DIDN'T LEVY ENOUGH TO PAY FOR RURAL CRITICAL LANE'S DEBT AND NOW WE HAVE TO GO INTO THE RESERVE OR THE DEBT SINKING FUND AND IF IT IN IF IT WAS REALLY SLOW COLLECTIONS AND IT WAS GREATER THAN 20 PERCENT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO PULL THAT MONEY FROM ANOTHER PLACE AND THAT WOULD POSSIBLY COME FROM THE GENERAL OPERATIONS.

BUT THE METHODOLOGY THAT I USED BECAUSE I'M THE PERSON THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT MILLAGE IS

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REASONABLE AND APPROPRIATE. AND IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL SURPLUSES THAT COME THROUGH THE COLLECTION THIS YEAR, THEN IT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDER CREATION FOR NEXT YEAR AND A MILLAGE REDUCTION. SO LONG AS THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL BONDS THAT ARE SOLD

OR ANY OTHER INCREASES THANK MR RUDD MS. >> THIS IS GETTING ABOVE WHAT MAY BE AT LEAST MY FAVORITE. I WONDER IF WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION THAT GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS. WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. WE SAID THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE A TAX INCREASE AND WHAT IS ON THE TAX BILL NOW WOULD BE A TAX INCREASE BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHAT JIM IS DOING I THINK IS SAYING WE HAVE VOTER APPROVED VIA REFERENDUM DEBT AND SO THEREFORE THAT TYPE OF A INCREASE IS A FUNCTION OF SOMETHING THE VOTERS HAVE ALREADY APPROVED. AND SO IT'S MAY NOT BE ACTUALLY A INCREASE SAID ANOTHER WAY THE SEPARATE THE TWO AND ESSENTIALLY SAY THE DEBT PARTICULARLY WHERE IT'S VOTER APPROVED IN A REFERENDUM IS WHAT IT IS AND THEREFORE THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND IN FACT WE DO NOT HAVE A TAX INCREASE ON THE ON THE GENERAL FUND.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE CASE BUT IT'S STARTING TO SOUND TO ME LIKE THAT'S THE CASE.

ACTUALLY SOMEBODY WITH A COUNCILMAN RODMAN HARDLY TEXTED THAT THAT IS THAT VERY WELL

STATED AND AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. >> YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK I MEAN I HAVE A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS BUT I THINK THAT THAT YOU'VE SAID IT EXACTLY RIGHT THAT THAT IS EXACTLY THE SITUATION WE'RE IN. AND I THINK THE ONLY POSSIBLE OUT WE HAVE SINCE IT SEEMS THAT WE ARE SO FAR ALONG IN THE TAX PROCESS THAT THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO BACK OUT OF THIS WITHOUT A SUBSTANTIAL DELAY IN ISSUING TAX THOSE IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE UNTIL LATE NOVEMBER THAT TAX BILLS WENT OUT. IF THEN.

AND SO I THINK IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PROCESS MOVING ALONG AND JUSTIFY IT EXACTLY AS YOU STATED, DO WE REALLY NEED TO AMEND THAT ORDINANCE SO THAT WE EITHER REMOVE THE DEBT CALCULATIONS FROM THE ENTIRE THING WHICH WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO IN OUR ORDINANCE OR AMEND THE RULE AND CRITICAL LANDS SO THAT INSTEAD OF FOUR POINT EIGHT IT'S FIVE POINT EIGHT.

AND THAT'S MY SUGGESTION IF YOU'D LIKE IN THE FORM OF MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, WHEN YOU'RE READY, I'LL MAKE THAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION?

>> YES, MR. LAWSON, WHO'S GOING TO GET US BACK TO WHAT WE DO HAVE A MOTION BUT HIS WOULD BE TO AMEND IT AT I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR MR. BECKER AND I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION IS THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TO MILLS THAT WAS IN OUR ORDINANCE.

>> WHEN DID YOU KNOW THAT WE COULDN'T LEVY TAXES FOR THAT ONE HUNDREDTH OF A MILLION AND THEY ALWAYS HAD THAT YOU CAN GO BACK TO 2000 IN NINETEEN WHEN THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE CAME DOWN TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND GAVE A PRESENTATION AT A COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING DURING THE DAY

. >> IT WAS JUNE 27, 2019 AND IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE

LAW. >> AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHEN A NUMBER OF TIMES TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT I WILL GLADLY SEND IT OUT AGAIN TOMORROW.

>> SO I MEAN I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS WHEN DID YOU REALIZE THAT OUR ORDINANCE OR OUR FINAL NUMBER WAS NOT CORRECT? WAS IT WHEN WE PASSED BEFORE THAT OR AFTER THAT THAT WE HAD IN THERE THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TWO MILLS BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THE EARLIER STATE WITH THAT YOU HAD LEVIED IT EXACTLY TO THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHENEVER THE ERROR CAME UP THAT WE COULD HAVE CORRECTED THIS BEFORE. NOW HERE WE ARE IN OCTOBER AND JUST LOOKING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE COULD CORRECT THIS EARLIER.

>> MY RECOLLECTION, MARK, IS THAT THE TURBIDITY. THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE YOU TO

ANSWER THAT. PLEASE. >> OK.

I DON'T RECALL BUT WHEN I RECEIVED THE ORDINANCE AND IT INDICATED THAT IT WAS SIXTY

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FIVE POINT TWO TO THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED IN 2019 WHEN TAXING AUTHORITIES WENT TO THAT SECOND TWO DIGITS AFTER THE DECIMAL HIT IT WAS DROPPED IN TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN WELL I

COULDN'T GIVE YOU A DATE FOR ACCURACY. >> THAT IS NOT TRUE OF THE WHOLE NIXON VETO MIGHT BE 2020 AT IT AND THE HUNDREDS. THAT'S INCORRECT.

MR. CHAIRMAN AGAINST MR. COVID . MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH ALL THIS DATA FLYING AROUND LIKE A FOGARTY COULD YOU OR DIRECT SOMEONE TO PUT THIS IN LAYMAN'S TERMS FOR US AND THE VIEWERS THE MOTION ON THE TABLE WILL THAT INCREASE TAXES BASE OR INCREASE TAXES COMPARED TO WHAT WE VOTED ON MONTHS AGO IN THE BUDGET ORDINANCE?

>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT, MIKE. HERE'S MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS NOT CORRECT. OK, THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TO TWO IN THE PARAGRAPH DOES NOT EQUAL THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT ARE BELOW.

THAT'S THAT'S THE PRIOR PRIOR YEARS. OK, NOW WHAT WE HAVE A CHOICE IS DO WE KEEP THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE AND MAKE THE TWO NUMBERS EQUAL IF WE DO.

ARE THEY SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO AND WE HAVE TO CHANGE RURAL AND CRITICAL CRITICAL LANDS TO FIVE POINT EIGHT TO MAKE THAT SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO BECAUSE THAT BOLD MATCH EXACTLY WHAT IS ON THE TAX BILL RIGHT NOW. AND WHEN PEOPLE CALL IN TO THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WITH THEIR BILL, THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY WAIT A SECOND, WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU DOESN'T MATCH HIMES I'M BEING BILLED FIVE POINT EIGHT. YOUR ORDINANCE IS FOUR POINT EIGHT. WHY AM I GETTING BILLED ONE MILLION MORE SO WE HAVE TO DECIDE DO WE CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE TO MATCH EXACTLY WHAT THE TAX BILL SAYS OR DO WE THEN TRY AND GO IN FOR LACK OF BETTER TERM REWRITE HISTORY AND NOW TRY AND MAKE SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO AND HAVE TO REDO ALL THE BILLS? OK, WELL THEN I GUESS THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT HELPS. I GUESS THEN LOOKING AT IT AS A TAXPAYER, YOU KNOW, IF IF IF WE AS A COUNCIL VOTED ON X NUMBER AND IT PASSED FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING AND PUT THE WRONG NUMBER. THAT'S NOT THE CITIZENS FAULT IF WE TOLD THEM IT'S SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO OR SIXTY FOUR POINT EIGHT OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. WHATEVER IF WE VOTED ON IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

AND THEN WHOMEVER IS AT FAULT WHILE THAT. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CORRECTED. THAT'S SECONDARY. WE SHOULD FIX ALL THAT.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE THAT'S THE CITIZENS PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIND THAT MONEY BECAUSE SOMEBODY OBVIOUSLY GOOFED UP.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY AN ERROR. I JUST DON'T SEE THE CITIZENS TAKE THAT THE BRUNT FOR IT.

IF I HAVE A BOX THAT YOU WANT TO BUY, I TELL YOU IT'S 10 BUCKS YOU COME BY THE HOUSE AND I SAY OH NO, JOE, IT'S 12 BUCKS . YEAH, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

>> IT'S MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT GO AHEAD ANSWER MR. KROGER'S QUESTION IS IF WE GO WITH SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO IT IS A TAX INCREASE. IT IS A TAX INCREASE.

WE VOTED ON 64 POINT TWO AND A SCRIBNER'S ERROR CREATED A NUMBER OUT OF THIN AIR.

SIXTY FIVE POINT TO TWO THAT WAS THAT WAS CREATED HERE. THAT'S A MYSTERIOUS NUMBER THAT WE'LL NEVER KNOW. SCRIBNER'S HEIRS ARE SCRIBNER'S HEIRS.

AND SO THE MOTION THAT I MADE WHICH IS TO CORRECT THAT PARTICULAR LANGUAGE FROM SIXTY FIVE POINT TO TWO TO SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO TAKES US BACK TO A NEW TO TO A REVENUE NEUTRAL POSITION WHICH IS WHAT WE VOTED ON IN THE FIRST PLACE. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS

LOOKING FOR. >> PAUL, I APPRECIATE THAT MR. SOMERVILLE.

>> SO THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO THAT IS OK. THERE'S NO MYSTERY HERE.

OK. LET ME TRY TO EXPLAIN IT ONE MORE TIME.

WE GOT TO THAT NUMBER. WE HAVE THAT NUMBER ORIGINALLY BECAUSE THAT WAS THE TOTAL WHEN WE HAD THE HUNDREDTH DECIMAL EVAN TO THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE MILITIA.

OK. WHEN WE REMOVE THE HUNDRED DOES NOT BECAUSE MR. BECKER IS NO

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LONGER ADDING THAT INCLUDING THE HUNDREDTH DECIMAL THEN WE GOT SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO.

AND WE JUST FORGOT TO GO BACK AND CHANGE IT IN THE BODY. BUT AGAIN, THAT IS THE NUMBER THAT GOES ON THE TAX BILL. WHAT GOES ON THE TAX BILL ARE THOSE NUMBERS YOU SEE BELOW THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED.

AND YES, YOU ARE CORRECT IT IS A TAX INCREASE AND IT IS AN INCREASE THAT A GOVERNING BODY

DID NOT APPROVE. >> SORRY. WELL, WELL, WELL I I NEED TO ADD SOMETHING REAL QUICK BECAUSE I CAN RAISE MY HAND AND YOU CAN SEE IT THAT YOU KEEP

COMING BACK TO THE DEBT MILLAGE. >> AND AGAIN, IF YOU CAN SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN STATE LAW WHERE IT SAYS COUNTY COUNCIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEBT MILLAGE IT'S NOT BECAUSE AUDITORS THROUGHOUT THIS STATE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CALCULATING AND LEVYING THAT MILLAGE. YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR ORDINANCE.

DOES IT NEED TO BE IN YOUR ORDINANCE? NO, IT DOESN'T.

BECAUSE THE AUDITOR IS STILL GOING TO LEVY THAT DEBT MILLAGE NOW.

IF YOU WERE TO TAKE OUT THAT DEBT MILLAGE, I BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBER THAT YOU WOULD BE LEVYING FOR OPERATIONS WITH THE FIFTY THREE POINT NINE. SO SO BECAUSE COUNTY COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE THE STANDING TO ACTUALLY CALCULATE AND LEVY THAT DEBT MILLAGE IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DONE BY THE AUDITOR. IT REALLY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE

INCLUDED IN THAT SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE AS A TOTAL THANKS. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT SO I'M LOOKING AT WHAT SARAH HAS ON THE SCREEN WHICH IS THE TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN TWO THOUSAND TWENTY BUDGET THIS YEAR NINETEEN TWENTY AND IF YOU READ DOWN THERE IN THE SECOND SECTION IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY SIXTY FIVE POINT TO TWO MALES SO THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED IN 2010 NINETEEN AND THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED IN 2020. WHERE'S THE QUESTION WHY IS THAT AN INCREASE. THE SECOND THING IS NO JUST FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE IT DOES HAVE THE 100 DIGIT IN BOTH ORDINANCES AGAIN LAST YEAR DID HAVE A POINT TWO TO IT WAS SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TWO. I'M READING IT RIGHT HERE. DID WE NOT? DID WE CHANGE THAT AT THAT MEETING THAT I'M I DON'T REMEMBER.

SO WHEN WE VOTED THIS YEAR WE VOTED FOR THE SAME WORDS WE VOTED ON LAST YEAR.

WHEN DID THAT CHANGE? >> AM I WRONG? SOMEBODY CORRECT ME.

COUNTING OCCASIONALLY DROP THE 10 FALLS IN THE 2020. IT IS NOT IN THE HUNDREDS IN THE 19 AND 20 IS TO THE HUNDREDS. NOT TIPS.

SO IF YOU UP ALL THOSE. NO, NO, NO THE SWITCH MY SWEET PEA WHICH WAS THE FIRST THE FIRST WHAT THE FIRST ITERATION OF THIS BUDGET THAT I SET OUT IF IT HAD HUNDREDS IN THERE THEN I SENT IT TO JIM AND HE HE SAID I COULDN'T HAVE HIM IN THERE.

>> WE DIDN'T UPDATE THE SAFETY FILE. IT TOTALS SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO.

OK. AND YOU TAKE THIS OUT AND JIM NOT ONLY SAID THAT I HAD TO TAX NOTHING I CAN KEEP. JUST DROP IT AROUND ROUNDED UP OR DOWN.

RIGHT. NO I BRI THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. I'M NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT POINTING AT YOU. I'M SAYING SOMEBODY SAID THAT THE ORDINANCE LAST YEAR DIDN'T HAVE IT TO THE TO THE HUNDREDS AND IT DID. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

BUT ALSO IT HAS SIXTY FIVE POINT TO TWO WHICH IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WE POINTED OUT.

DID WE COLLECT SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO LAST YEAR? WAS THAT OUR TOTAL TOTAL MELLINGER WAS A SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO SIXTY FIVE POINT THREE MILES.

>> OK, WELL THEN HOW COME WE'RE NOT GOING TO. HOW COME WE'RE NOW HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER IT WAS SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO OR SIXTY FIVE THAT WE VOTED ON? CLEARLY WE VOTED ON SIXTY FIVE AND THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THAT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT EVERYTHING IS IS CALCULATED, EVERYTHING COMES OUT TO THE SAME NUMBER AS TO CHANGE THE COUNTY PURCHASE PROPERTY LITTLE RURAL. RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS TO FIVE POINT EIGHT. AND THEN THOSE NUMBERS WORK. AM I WRONG IN THAT MR. CHAIRMAN AND CEO MOTION TO EXTEND THE TIME WE NEED THAT WE'RE AT SEVEN FIFTY FOUR.

>> WE'LL NEED A SECOND FOR THAT. SECOND, MR. CHAIRMAN.

OK, MR. RODMAN, YOU WERE THE FIRST MR. HERBERT SHAWN YOU WERE THE SECOND.

>> DO I NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE OR CAN I DO THIS WITHOUT EXCEPTION?

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>> RIGHT. NEED ROLL CALL, SIR. >> OK, MR. RODMAN.

YES, MR. HER VERSION? YES. MR. COVERT.

HI, MR. DAWSON. YES, MR. FU WELLING. NOW MR. GLOVER PRINCIPLE NO.

>> MISS HOWARD. YES, MR. LAWSON. MARK WATSON.

YES. >> MR. MCKELLEN. >> YES.

MR. SOMERVILLE. YES. AND I WILL SAY YES.

THE MOTION IS TO EXTEND NINE. YES. NO.

OK. OK. SO BACK YOU KNOW YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN, BRIAN. BUT HERE'S THE THING. WHAT YOU WERE TALKING LAST YEAR ABOUT SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TWO. IT'S NOT IT'S SIXTY FIVE POINT THREE EIGHT.

AND ALL OF THE NUMBERS BELOW EQUAL WHEN WE COME OVER TO THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TO THIS YEAR THE NUMBERS DON'T EQUAL. SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO CORRECT THE NUMBERS BELOW BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE TAX BILL SAYS. MR. BECKFORD HAS RULED THAT YOU CAN NOT BUY DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE GUIDELINES USED HUNDREDS.

YOU HAVE TO USE TENTS. HE HAS DONE THAT. SO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TO WORK WITH THE TAX BILLS THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE, WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS TO FIVE POINT EIGHT. BUT SPECIFICALLY THAT DOESN'T EVEN A PASSING BASICALLY COMMENT. IT'S NOT A TAX INCREASE.

IT'S MY POINT. YEAH. AND NOW I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM TREASURER PLACE. YEAH. GO AHEAD.

YOU KNOW I I'M RECEIVING A LOT OF TEXT MESSAGES I'M SURE MANY OF YOU ARE.

>> AS TO WHAT IS REALLY THE ISSUE, THE AUDITOR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SET A DEBT MILLAGE BUT AS YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR MR. SHAKE UP VERY SIMPLY EXPLAINED HOW THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TWO WAS CAME TO BE. SO WHAT I'M HEARING AND WHAT I BELIEVE OTHERS ARE HEARING AS WELL IS THAT COUNCIL INTENTION TO FURTHER THE MILLAGE RATE WAS THE BREAKOUT BELOW THE SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO TO WAS A SCRIBNER'S ERROR BUT TO USE THAT TERM TO LOOK AND BASED COLLECTION RATE TODAY BASED ON A SUPPOSED ESTIMATE OF MONTHS TO GO IS IN FRANKLY RIDICULOUS ANTICIPATED 20 PERCENT RATE OF COLLECTION IS THE ANTITHESIS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING. I THINK COUNCIL AS WELL AS ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OF OUR AGENCIES NOT JUST WEEKLY REPORT BUT MONTHLY REPORT SOMEWHERE OUR COLLECTIONS ARE RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT WELL OVER NINETY EIGHT POINT NINETY EIGHT PERCENT.

WE'VE HAD THE LOWEST NUMBER OF PROPERTIES GO TO TAX SALE. NOW DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE NEXT TWELVE MONTHS ARE GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT? NO, THEY PROBABLY WON'T BE PERFECT. BUT ARE WE SEEING INDICATIONS OF A 20 PERCENT DECLINE IN OUR COLLECTION? ABSOLUTELY NOT. SO SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE YOU PROBABLY HAVE THE RIGHT PROJECTION BEFORE USING 20 PERCENT A NUMBER THAT WAS BASED ON AN ESTIMATE MONTHS AGO WHEN WE KNOW FAR MORE ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL PICTURE NOW THAN WE DO THEN MAKE DOESN'T MAKE VERY MUCH SENSE. IN ADDITION THE COUNTY FINANCE DIRECTOR AND YOUR WELL PREVIOUSLY INTERIM CFO JUST SHOWED YOU A VERY CLEAR AND WELL LAID OUT TABLE OF WHAT THE FINANCIAL RAMIFICATIONS ARE OF EACH OF THE MILITARY THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING. SO WE CAN GET IN TO OR COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO CONTINUE DEBATING WHAT SHOULD BE IN THIS ORDINANCE MATHEMATICALLY WHICH SHOULD MATCH IN MY OPINION.

I THINK OUR TAX PAYERS AND MY ONE AND ONLY MOTIVATOR IN THIS ENTIRE SITUATION IS OUR TAXPAYERS ARE ENTITLED TO LOOK AT THEIR BILL AND KNOW EXACTLY WHERE EVERYTHING CAME FROM AND WHEN I REVIEWED THESE BILLS. THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. IT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME.

AND I BROUGHT IT TO ALL OF YOUR ATTENTION BUT YOUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE JUST LAID OUT FOR YOU THE RESULTS OF THOSE NEGLIGENT FOUR POINT EIGHT BEING LOWER THAN BREAKING EVEN AND FIVE POINT EIGHT BEING HIGHER THAN BREAKING EVEN. SO FIVE POINT ONE SEEMED TO ME

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LIKE WHAT BREAKING EVEN WOULD BE. NOW WE WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE AGAIN INTO WHETHER THIS IS A TAX INCREASE OR NOT. RIGHT.

I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSION LEFT UP TO ALL OF YOU. HOWEVER, OUR COLLECTIONS ARE

NOT AT 80 PERCENT. >> THEY'RE AT NINETY EIGHT PERCENT.

>> SO I DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT OUR COLLECTIONS 1 ARE INDICATING A NEED FOR FIVE EIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT. AND YOUR FINANCE DIRECTOR HAS PROVIDED THIS BREAKDOWN.

AND I IN MY MIND AS A VOTER FORGET TREASURER AS A VOTER ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW IS WHAT YOU ARE VOTING ON AND REVISITING INTENTION SEEMS TO BE GETTING ANYWHERE.

BUT I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OUR YOUR VIEWERS IN ALL OF OUR SHARED CONSTITUTE NOTE THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY VOTED FOR A DEBT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PAY IN EXCESS MILLAGE OR A MILITIA. IT'S NOT NECESSARY. AND THE ONLY LAST ITEM I WILL SAY IS THAT IF THEY FIND HAS MORE ONE DEBT FUND, THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT FUNDS IN THE GENERAL LEDGER WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW. JUST BECAUSE DEBT IS DEBT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THE SAME AS THE PERSON WHO PAYS THE DEBT. I CANNOT TAKE DEBT REVENUE FROM ONE FUND AND USE IT TO PAY THE DEBT THAT BELONGS TO DIFFERENT FUND.

>> THAT'S I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ASKING THAT MARIE. NOBODY'S ASKING THEM.

>> I AM MAKING IT CLEAR NOT JUST TO YOU CONSONANT FULLY BUT TO EVERYONE BECAUSE THROWING AROUND THE TERM DEBT AND THE TYPE OF DEBT IS ACTUALLY VERY RELEVANT.

SURE. >> SURE. NOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU, MARIA AND I APPRECIATE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN FOR THE RHETORIC TOO. IT'S VERY CLEAR FURTHER RESONANCES TACT OF THE COUNTY BE FOR I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN QUESTION AT ALL AND I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL THIS GOT BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

I APPRECIATE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. BECKER.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THOUGH THE ROLES HAVE BEEN ISSUED ALREADY, CORRECT? RIGHT. AND SO WAS THAT CALCULATION THE TAX BILLS THAT I'M ABLE TO LOOK AT ANY CITIZEN CAN LOOK AT ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE. ARE THOSE BASED ON SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO AND A ROLLING LAND MILLAGE OF FIVE POINT EIGHT? YES.

OK, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AMEND THIS ORDINANCE TO SHOW RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS AT FIVE POINT EIGHT WHICH LEAVES A TOTAL CALCULATION AS THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR. AND IT GIVES US IT MAY END UP BEING A LITTLE MORE COLLECTION FOR RURAL LANDS WHERE WE CAN MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT NEXT YEAR .

ISIS IS YOU NEED TO CORRECT ONE THING THAT TAXES ARE NOT AVAILABLE.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THEM ALL WEEK. I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THEM ALL WEEK. I MEAN NOT THE BILL BUT THE CALCULATED AMOUNTS AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TAX BILL AND LATELY.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT.

I DO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE. BUT THAT'S BEEN PUBLICLY AVAILABLE NOW FOR ABOUT A WEEK.

HOW MUCH WHAT THE AMOUNT OF THE TAXES ARE FOR NEXT YEAR FOR PEOPLE AND PEOPLE ARE USING THAT TO MAKE GUESSTIMATES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I WILL. I WILL CALL THE ROLL. ALL RIGHT.

MADAM MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE RECALL ANY ROLLS FIRST OF ALL, IT IS MY OPINION THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE BUDGET BASED ON THE NUMBERS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

>> NOT NOT A SCRIBNER'S ERROR AT THE TOP. THEREFORE WE APPROVED FOUR POINT EIGHT AND TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT WAS TOLD TODAY TO GENERATE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY WHICH IS WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS LAST YEAR AND THESE NUT AND THESE MILLAGE NUMBERS GENERATE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

SO I TO TRY TO TO TRY TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION BY BY TRYING TO JUSTIFY A SCRIBNER'S ERROR TO ME IS ABSURD. SO OF COURSE I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT.

MY ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO CHANGE THE SCRIBNER'S ERROR TO SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO AND LEAVE THE NUMBERS IN THE ACTUAL BODY OF THE ORDINANCE EXACTLY AS WE APPROVE THEM.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY OTHER THAN NO, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT I'M NOT GOING

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TO REPORT TRYING TO JUSTIFY A SCRIBNER'S ERROR BY CHANGING NUMBERS THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I CALL FOR THE ROLLS? MR. RUDMAN YEAH. I HATE TO BE THERE. JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS FROM BRIAN'S MOTION SECONDED THIS MAN. THIS WILL MATCH THE ORDINANCE

TO THE TAX BILL, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

OK, OK. OK. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. JIM RIGHT QUICK TIME TO SAY WE HAVE TIME UNDER STATE LAW TO CHANGE THE TAX BILLS WHETHER THEY'RE PRINTED OR ELECTRONIC FORM WHICH MEANS WE CAN DO THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO

CHANGE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT TRUE. >> THIS IS FIRST READING HERE

IS NOT THE FINAL ONE. >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, GERMANS HAVE MEANT THE AUDITOR HAS ASSIGNED THOSE DUTIES AND THOSE BILLS ARE DUE AND COLLECT COLLECTIBLE.

>> THE CHAIRMAN CERTIFIED THAT MILLAGE. THERE IS NO WAY TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE THAT AT THIS POINT BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE

. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

MR. DAWSON, YOU HAD A COMMENT. YES. BRIAN'S MOTION IS TO CHANGE RULE IN CRITICAL LANDS MILLAGE TO FIVE POINT EIGHT TO TRY AND BALANCE THE.

SIXTY FIVE POINT TWO. OH, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S THAT'S STILL GOING TO BE A TAX INCREASE FOR THE CITIZENS.

AM I NOT CORRECT? YOU YOU YOU CAN ARGUE THAT POINT.

SIMPLE STAY BECAUSE IT IS DEBT. DEBT IS NOT INCLUDED. YOU KNOW AS FAR AS THE GENERAL FUND IS CONCERNED, DEBT IS SEPARATE AND APART AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO APPROVE DEBT BECAUSE THE AUDITOR IS REQUIRED TO CALCULATE THE DEBT. MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. LAWSON, JUST THIS IS A DIFFERENT SUBJECT. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DO AS WELL WITH THE SCHOOL MILLAGE RATE? WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AFTER WE TAKE CARE OF THIS ONE.

>> THIS THAT'S JUST ONE PART OF IT. >> OK.

GOOD. THANK YOU. OK.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. I WILL. SHARON CALL THE ROLL.

YES, MR. HERVE SEAN. >> I DIDN'T HAVE THAT ONE. IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR TO ME BASED ON WHAT MR. BECKER JUST SAID IF WE VOTE THIS DOWN AND THEN IF WE VOTE FOR MR. CARVILLE'S MOTION WHAT THE MECHANICS ARE DOWNSTREAM OF THAT AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE AUDITORS OFFICE, HOW THAT'S IF THAT'S EVEN LEGAL BASED ON WHAT THE OWNER HAS SAID, HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT TAXPAYERS. SO CAN WE GET A FULL PICTURE AND MAYBE CART AWAY AND MAYBE GET THE ORDER TO WIN AGAIN AS WELL? EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN MECHANICALLY FOR THE TAXPAYER WITH EITHER OF THESE MOTIONS

LIKE OCCURRED? >> WELL, YOU WEIGH IN PLACE THAT QUESTION.

WELL, I NEEDED TO. I'M NOT A TAX LAWYER. I NEEDED TO FIND ONE WANTS SOMEONE THAT IS AN EXPERT IN TAX LAW AND I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT I KNOW TO TO ASK THAT PRECISE QUESTION. ONCE THE ORDER IS CERTIFIED ROLES, CAN THEY BE CHANGED? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER TO THAT BUT I WILL FIND NO MATTER WHAT WE DO TONIGHT.

THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST READING. KEN CHANGE AT THE SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.

OK, SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS I WILL CALL THE ROLL YOUR BIG WHERE'S YOUR CAMERA?

>> THERE IS NOT A CITIZEN OUT THERE LISTENING OR READING ABOUT THIS IN THE PAPER TOMORROW. THERE'S NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THE TAX INCREASE OK.

MR. CARLSON, THE THE TREASURER LET HIM SPEAK. >> GO AHEAD.

>> MARIA. YES, MARIA. >> GO AHEAD.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT COUNCIL IS GETTING THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE DONE. AND I'M NOT TALKING FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT BUT OPERATIONAL IN 2018. THE MILLAGE RATE FOR FREIGHT ISLAND WAS NOT ENTERED AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. IT WAS NOT IDENTIFIED UNTIL AFTER IT DID KILL THE BILL HAD GONE OUT AND PAYMENTS HAD ALREADY BEGUN AND IT WAS THEN CORRECTED.

SO PERHAPS SOME SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT ALLOWED THAT. BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF WE HAVE NOT YET NAILED BILL AND WE ARE NOT YET COLLECTING AND IN 2018 WE WERE ABLE TO THINK YOU KNOW A AFTER THAT ALL OCCURRED. WOULDN'T YOU THE CITIZENS TO HAVE THE BEST RATE POSSIBLE

[02:05:03]

WHEN THERE IS STILL TIME TO CHANGE THAT? >> IT WAS DONE BEFORE I CAN IMAGINE WE NEED TO BEGIN COLLECTING IN ORDER TO CHANGE A MILLAGE SO IF THERE IS TIME FOR IT TO BE AS ACCURATE AND AS APPROPRIATE AS POSSIBLE I I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT TIME IS

NOT. >> NOW WHATEVER THE AUDITOR OR COUNTY COUNCIL OR BOTH DECIDE BUT IT HAS BEEN CHANGED BEFORE QUITE FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

I FELT THAT WAS RELEVANT TO YOUR DISCUSSION AND WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I'M READY TO CALL THE RULES SAYING NO. THEIR COMMENTS MR. FLEW ALONG. YOU MADE THE MOTION.

YOU VOTE FIRST. YES. MR. RUDMAN.

YOU WERE. YES. MR. COVID .

NO, MR. DAWSON. NO, MR. GLOVER. NO MR. HER VERSION?

>> NO MISS HOWARD. NO. MR. LAWSON.

MARK LAWSON? NO. MR. MCKELLEN?

>> NO. MR. SOMERVILLE. NO.

>> THE CHAIR SAYS NO. THE MOTION IS DEFEATED 2 YES. 9 NO.

SOMEBODY WILL WANT TO MAKE A NEW MOTION. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE

EMOTIONAL LIST. >> WE HAVE MOTION A FLOOR MIND WAS TO AMEND.

GOTCHA. OK. THE MOTION IS TO CHANGE THINGS BACK TO SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO WHOM I'M SORRY I MIS PLACED THE CELL ON THAT.

>> I DID. YES, YOU DID, MR. GLOVER. THANK YOU, MR. SUM.

MR. RODMAN. YES. SO COULD SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THEN? IF WE PASS THIS MOTION, WHAT IS THE IMPACT OR ACTION ON THE TAX BILLS? ALL THE TAX BILLS IN MY MIND WOULD HAVE TO BE REDONE TO REFLECT RURAL AND CRITICAL

LANDS AT FOUR POINT EIGHT NOT FIVE POINT EIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, AT MY RECOLLECTION, MR. SUMMERVILLE, YOU MADE THE MOTION YOU COULD REMIND US.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST TO TAKE THE ONE HUNDRED STAFF AND LEAVE EVERYTHING ELSE THE SAME

MORAL STANDARDS. >> RIGHT. THANK YOU.

NO, THAT IS CORRECT. MY MOTION WAS TO CHANGE THE VERBIAGE IN THE ORDINANCE TO AGREE WITH THE MATH ON THE INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS SO THAT THE VERBIAGE WOULD SAY SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO. AS THE MATH IF YOU ADD UP THE INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS COMES TO SIXTY FOUR POINT TWO I'M SAYING TO MAKE BECAUSE MY POINT WAS IT WAS A SCRIBNER'S ERROR AND ALL

WE'RE DOING IS CORRECT IS ERROR. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. CAN WE MAKE SURE THE SECOND AGREED THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY SECONDED? YES, I DID. THANKS.

OK. AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE I CALL THE QUESTION.

>> ALL RIGHT. BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT ARE WE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO

CHANGE THE CALCULATION THAT THE AUDITOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR? >> YES.

AND SO WHAT IF WHAT IF HE GOES TO COURT? HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THAT WE HAVE

THE RIGHT TO DO THAT? >> WE CAN WE CAN'T. AND MAY I WEIGH IN? EARLIER TODAY WE HEARD THAT THE AUDITORS ROLE IN THIS MATTER OF SETTING DEBT VILLAGE IS MINISTERIAL DISCRETION CANARY AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER. IT'S MINISTERIAL.

>> THAT'S NOT CORRECT. IF YOU DIVIDE IT BY Y AND YOU GET AN ANSWER SO AND WE'RE SETTING WE ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ORDINANCE, NOT THE AUDITOR CHAIRMAN

PARTNER. >> YES. MR. BECKER.

>> THAT STATEMENT IS JUST REALLY FOR THE AUDITOR TO LEVY THE DEBT MILLAGE IS NOT

CORRECT. >> THERE IS A STATE LAW THAT SAYS THAT THE AUDITORS TO CALCULATE AND LEVY THE ACTUAL AMOUNT. THERE IS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINIONS THAT SAY THE EXACT SAME THING. SO THAT LAST STATEMENT IS

MISTAKES COMPLETELY. OK. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT.

OK. I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION OK.

MR. STONE REVEALED YOU MADE THE MOTION YOU GET TO VOTE FIRST. >> YES.

MR. GLOVER. YES. MR. COVID ?

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YES. MR. DAWSON. YES.

MR. FULLER WELLING NO. MR. HER VERSION. YEAH.

MR. HOWARD. YES. MR. LAWSON.

WONDERFUL. AND YES. MR. MCKELLEN.

NO MR. SOMERVILLE TIME. SORRY I MEAN MR. RODMAN. >> NO.

AND THE CHAIR SAYS YES. >> THE MOTION IS SUCCESSFUL WITH THOSE NINE YES TO NO.

I THINK YOU HAVE THREE NOTES. I'M SORRY. THREE NOTES.

YES. YES, IT'S EIGHT. THREE.

OK, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 14 BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN AT THIS SO LONG I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS SO SOMEBODY CAN GET SOMETHING TO DRINK, TIE THEIR SHOES, UNTIE THEIR SHOES

,WHATEVER WE NEED. >> SO OF RECESS THE RECESS OF OUR CAUCUS MEETING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE ON ALL NIGHT.

OK. IT IS NOW A 20. WE SHOULD BE BACK FROM OUR SHORT STINT OF MAKES FOR BROADCAST THERE ON. OKAY.

[14. PUBLIC HEARING AND SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE - TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE (CDC): APPENDIX B TO REMOVE THE MAXIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT FOR MINOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS IN THE D3 GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD (D3GN), THE D4 MIXED USE (D4MU); THE VILLAGE CENTER (D5VC), AND THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR (D5GC) DISTRICTS ON DAUFUSKIE ISLAND]

WE'RE GETTING. >> OK. ALL RIGHT.

AT ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENT.

TEXT AMENDMENT. THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COLD APPENDIX B TO REMOVE THE MAXIMUM BLOCK SIZE REQUIRED FOR A MINOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT PLEASE? >> SO MOVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. FLOWING, MAY I HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND THAT.

MISS HOWARD WITHOUT OBJECTION, SIR. >> YOU HAVE TO ON MUTE.

I'M THE MOTION WITHOUT OBJECTION SECTION. >> YES, I SAW THAT.

IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT? >> I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY SHOWCASING NONE.

>> THE PUBLIC INPUT HAS CLOSED AND THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION. ITEM 40 IS APPROVED.

[15. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ABANDONMENT OF AN EXISTING DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF A RELOCATED DRAINAGE EASEMENT ON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE GRANTOR]

ITEM 15 IS PUBLIC HEARING. AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ABANDONMENT OF AN EXISTING DRAINAGE EXIST MEANT MAY HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND PLACE STILL MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. THORNTON THERE. MR. DAWSON MADE THE MOTION.

MR. FULL WALLING MADE THE SECOND. WILL THIS BE DONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION? PLEASE. WITHOUT EXCEPTION?

YES, SIR. YES, WITHOUT EXCEPTION. >> ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO

[16. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA.]

THIS MOTION? SEEING NONE IN THIS MOTION IS APPROVED.

ITEM 16 IS A SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MOBILE COMMUNICATION AMERICA.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION SECOND WITHOUT EXCEPTION. >> CHAIRMAN THIS SHOULD BE THIRD OF THIS IS THE THIRD NOT LIKE THIS IS THE THIRD AND FINAL READING THIS.

>> OK BRING THE CASE. >> WILL IT INCLUDE THE CARRYING SIR?

>> YEAH. YEAH. >> YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. OK. >> MAY I HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND WITHOUT EXCEPTION FOR THIS ITEM? SO MOVE MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. FLOWING MADE THE MOTION. MAY I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? NELSON ACKERMAN.

>> MR. DAWSON MADE THE SECOND. THIS IS DONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS LEFT? LET'S ASK IF THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE FIRST. OH YES.

>> WAS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, SIR.

I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY. I PASSED ELEVEN AND ZERO EVERY TIME.

>> OKAY. THEN THIS IS APPROVED WITHOUT EXCEPTION 17 IS A PUBLIC

[17. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUEST FOR 3 PARCELS (R600 021 000 0003 0000; R600 021 000 002A 0000; R600 021 000 003A 0000) ON GRAVES ROAD FROM T2 RURAL TO C3 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED-USE; APPLICANT: JUDY GRAVES, KEVIN GRAVES, JAN MCKIM]

HEARING AND THIRD READING OF THE ORDINANCE REZONING THAT AMENDMENT FOR THE THREE PARCELS. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND PLEASE MAKE COMMOTION TO PASS THIS. NOW WHAT MAKES THE MOTION, MR HOWARD? WHAT MADE THE SECOND THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION? AH IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT

THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION? >> NO, SIR.

I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY SAYING NO. NOW THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION IS CLOSED.

[02:15:01]

>> THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS?

EXCEPTIONS ARE TO HAND. YEAH. >> OKAY.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS. FOR ITEM NUMBER 17, MISS HOWARD, YOU MADE THE MOTION YOU'D GET TO VOTE FIRST. YES.

THANK YOU. FULL WILLING YOU WERE THE SECOND.

>> YEAH, I DID GET AN ERROR BUT THAT'S OK. THE SECOND STILL COUNTS AND

I'LL I'LL SAY NO. >> OK, MR. COVID . NO.

MR. DAWSON. YES, MR. GLOVER. NO.

MR. HER VERSION? >> NO. MR. LAWSON.

MARK LAWSON. YES. MR. MCKELLEN.

>> NO. MR. SOMERVILLE LEFT THE CHAIR SAYS YES.

>> IT'S FREE. THERE ARE TWO YET TO SAY I'M SORRY STU.

>> I'M YES FIGURE I THOUGHT I ALREADY CALLED YOU. YOU SAY YES I BELIEVE IT IS STILL DEFEATED. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. I KNOW IT IS SIX.

YES FIVE NO. THE MOTION IS SUCCESSFUL. ITEM NUMBER 18 PUBLIC HEARING

[18. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE $575,000.00 FROM THE H-TAX FUND TO THE HISTORIC MITCHELVILLE FREEDOM PARK FOR PHASE I BUILD OUT OF THE MITCHELVILLE FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN]

IN THIRD READING OF AN AUTHOR OR ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND FROM H TAX TO THE HISTORIC MISS MITCHELL VILLE FREEDOM PARK MAY HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND WITHOUT EXCEPTION FOR THIS SO MOVED MR. MCALLISTER IN SECOND MR. GLOVER THIS IS DONE

WITHOUT EXCEPTION. >> ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC

HEALTH WHO HAS WEIGHED IN? >> NO, SIR. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING.

[19. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE A MULTI-COUNTY PARK AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY RELATING TO THE TRASK EAST SOLAR, LLC, PROJECT]

OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AND THE MOTION IS APPROVED WITHOUT

EXCEPTION. >> ITEM NUMBER NINETEEN PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING TO AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE A MULTI COUNTY PARK AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY REGARDING THE TRASK E SOLAR PROJECT. IS THERE A MOTION AND SECOND TO DO THIS WITHOUT EXCEPTION OF MR. CHAIRMAN MR. FLOWING MAKES THE MOTION SECOND.

>> MR. GLOVER MAKES THE SECOND . >> IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT AND THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION NASR SAYING NONE THAT IS CLOSED AND THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT

EXCEPTION. >> ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS SEEING NONE?

[20. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE - ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUEST FOR 18.3 ACRES (R100 024 000 032A 0000, R100 024 000 0276 0000, R100 024 000 030C 0000, AND R100 024 000 033A 0000) AT THE INTERSECTION OF BAY PINES ROAD AND LAUREL BAY ROAD FROM T2 RURAL AND S1 INDUSTRIAL TO C4-COMMUNITY CENTER MIXED-USE DISTRICT]

ITEM NUMBER NINETEEN IS APPROVED. ITEM TWENTY IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE ZONING MAP REZONING REQUEST FOR EIGHTEEN POINT THREE ACRES OF LAND AT THE INTERSECTION BAY PINES ROAD AND LAUREL BAY ROAD HISTORY CAMERON I MAKE A MOTION WITHOUT EXCEPTION MISS HOWARD MAKES THE MOTION.

MAY I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND MR. GLOVER MAKES THE SECOND.

>> I'M SORRY MR. DAWSON THAT WAS YOU, RIGHT? >> CORRECT.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY ONE FROM THE PUBLIC WEIGHING IN ON THIS? NO, SIR. OK, THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION IS CLOSED AND THIS WILL BE DONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS SAYING NO EXCEPTIONS?

[21. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE DECLARING LOUD AND UNNECESSARY VEHICULAR NOISE A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND PROVIDING THAT VIOLATIONS ARE A MISDEMEANOR]

THIS IS DONE. WHY DID WE DO THIS AN HOUR AGO? ITEM NUMBER 21 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE DECLARING LOUD AND UNNECESSARY VEHICULAR NOISE, A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND PROVIDING THAT VIOLATIONS ARE A MISDEMEANOR.

EMOTION IN SECOND PLACE. SO MOVED MR. MCKELLEN SECOND MR. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT

ON THIS ITEM? >> YES, SIR. >> THAT THOMPSON'S I BELIEVE THEY E-MAILED IN JUST JUST STATING THAT THEY SUPPORTED IT AND SUPPORT ON IT.

OK, SO THEY'RE THERE ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS. WELL THE IS THE PLEASURE

OF COUNSEL TO MR. COVERT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> ARE YOU TAKING DISCUSSION? OH, YES. WE'RE AT THE POINT THAT WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU, SIR. THE NOISE ORDINANCE IN MY OPINION THIS HAS BECOME ARBITRARY, CAPRICIOUS AS INVESTIGATE THIS MORE AND MORE ACROSS THE COUNTRY LOOKING AT OTHER NOISE ORDINANCES. I BELIEVE IT OBVIOUSLY SINGLES OUT MEMBERS OF SOCIETY AND EVEN CAST SOME DISPERSIONS IN THE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF THE STATE WHERE IT IS STILL RURAL.

>> BUT I BELIEVE IT'S RIDICULOUS TO THINK WE MUST HAVE THIS NOISE POLICE IN EFFECT. I BELIEVE THERE IS VALIDITY TO THE COMMENTS MADE OF POSSIBLE

[02:20:06]

SEGREGATION GETS MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD PARTS OF THE COUNTY WITH THIS ORDINANCE.

THIS IS PART OF WHAT THEY CONSIDER IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY AS A NUISANCE ORDINANCE. THESE ARE LOCAL LAWS TO CURB UNDESIRABLE ACTIVITIES THAT POSE A RISK TO PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY SUCH AS EXCESSIVE NOISE, HAZARDOUS WASTE OR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. NUISANCE LAWS ARE INTENDED TO KEEP COMMUNITIES SAFE AND LIVABLE BUT AT TIMES THEY HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT. USUALLY INDIVIDUALS OR PROPERTY OWNERS WHO RECEIVE THESE NUISANCE CITATIONS MUST STOP IT MUST STOP THE NUISANCE ACTIVITY OR ELSE FACE A PENALTY. OFTEN IN THE FORM OF A FINE WE DO.

WE DO KNOW WE ALL KNOW THAT PENALTIES CAN RANGE IN SEVERITY AND SOMETIMES CALLS UNDESIRABLE AND UNJUST OUTCOMES. THESE IVY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES NUISANCE LAWS CAN ALSO DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE FEWER RESOURCES SUCH AS PEOPLE OF COLOR, PERSONS WITH MENTAL DISABILITIES OR THOSE EXPERIENCING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

ONE DRIVER OF THIS DISPARITY IS INEQUITABLE ENFORCEMENTS ENFORCEMENT MAN OF NUISANCE LAWS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO USE PASS ON TO YOU THAT THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION IN 2010 ANNOUNCED A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR SETTLEMENT IN A COURT CASE IN FLORIDA.

WAS CANNON AN ALLEN VERSUS THE CITY OF SARASOTA? THIS WAS FILED IN 2009 IN THE LAWSUIT THE ACLU ASKED THE COURT TO RULE THAT THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE POLICY WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THE SETTLEMENT INCLUDES AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY WILL NO LONGER ENFORCE THE AUDIENCE. NOW I ONLY SAY THAT AS TO PROVIDE BACKUP TO THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU HEAR THIS. I DO AGREE HOWEVER THAT MUNICIPALITIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR NOISE FOR NOTHING ELSE BECAUSE OF DENSITY AND I BELIEVE IN SOUTH CAROLINA IT IS CONSTITUTIONAL TO DO THAT. BUT THE COUNTY.

WE'RE STILL RURAL AND MAKE WHERE WE'RE MEMBERS OF THE RURAL ACTION CAUCUS NOT THE SUBURBAN OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT'S THE RURAL WE'RE RURAL COUNTY.

I DON'T I DON'T I BELIEVE IT HAS ANY PLACE FOR THIS TYPE OF WAR IN THIS RIGHT NOW THE TOWNS AND THE MUNICIPALITIES. ABSOLUTELY. I'M THERE.

I'LL BE VOTING NO FOR THIS. THANK YOU, SIR. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT BEFORE I CALL THE ROLL SEEING NONE. MR. MCKELLEN, YOU WERE THE MOTION OR SO YOU GET TO VOTE FIRST. YES, SECOND WAS MISS DAWSON.

YES, MR. COVERT? NO. MR. FLO WELLING.

YES. MR. GLOVER? YES.

MR. HER VERSION? NO. MISS HOWARD.

YES, MR. LAWSON. MARK LAWSON. YES.

>> MR. SOMERVILLE WHERE MR. RUDMAN? >> YES.

AND THE CHAIR SAYS YES. AND THE MOTION IS SUCCESSFUL NINE YES TO NO.

THAT ENDS ALL OF THE ITEMS FOR US TO TAKE ACTION ON. WE'RE NOW THE SECOND STRIKE

[12. County Council Agenda – Beaufort County, SC 12. FIRST READING OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE 2020-2021 BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET ORDINANCE (Part 2 of 2)]

GENERAL. YES SIR. WE WE WERE GOING TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE. THIS IS BACK ON. WELL, ABOUT THE SCHOOL VILLAGE

I DON'T THINK WE CAME BACK TO THAT YET. >> NO, THIS WAS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA OR NOT THE IMPACT. BUT THE FAMILIAR TO CALCULATE WHERE.

OH YES. YES, YES, YES. AND I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS TOO ABOUT THAT IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT TONIGHT. YES, THIS SCHOOL MILLAGE IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS WE APPROVED THE SCHOOL BUDGET. AND WITH THAT IS A COMPONENT PART OF THE DEBT. AND ONCE AGAIN I MY MY ASSUMPTION IS IS THE AUDITOR TAKES WHAT IS NEEDED AND DEVELOPS THE AMOUNT OF MILLAGE TO COVER THAT DEBT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, AT TIME WE WERE TOLD WE'RE GONNA BE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SHORT FOR THAT

[02:25:06]

BELL. >> HE HAS. HE HAS TAKEN THE MILLION FROM THIRTY SIX POINT SIX TO THIRTY SIX POINT THREE I GUESS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN THEY THINK THEY HAVE. THAT'S THE ONLY EXPLANATION I COULD HAVE OF MR. BECKER WHO IS STILL ON MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE CORRECT.

>> THIS IS BETWEEN THE AUDITOR AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT IF WE ARE CAUGHT IN A FALSE

MINISTERIAL OVERREACH. >> YEAH. DID AGAIN THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THE COUNTY BUDGET. IT AFFECTS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUDGET AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE RIGHT THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE AUDITOR WOULD HAVE TO WORK OUT. MR. RUDMAN? YEAH, I BELIEVE IT FALLS TWO

PARTS. >> THE THE SCHOOL HAS DEBT UNDER THE 8 PERCENT AND THEY HAVE GET UNDER THE REFERENDUM AND THAT'S LIKE THE ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE WHERE

THAT'S SOLELY THE RESPONSIBILITY THE AUDITOR. >> HOWEVER WE HAVE THE OVERSIGHT AND THE APPROVAL RESPONSIBILITY AND AUTHORITY WHERE THEY'RE OPERATING BUDGET.

SO I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE MILLAGE GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THAT.

AND SO I DO BELIEVE IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO WEIGH IN AND I THINK WE HISTORICALLY HAD THAT ON THE ORDINANCE FROM. I HAVE A QUESTION IS THERE ANY PORTION OF THIS MILLAGE THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED A RESPONSIBILITY ESTABLISHED FOR THE ORDER TO BY STATUTE AS IT WAS IN THE OTHER ISSUE? KURT YES. THERE'S VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL STATUTE THAT SAYS THE SAME THING ABOUT SCHOOL OPERATING. I MEAN EXCUSE ME SCHOOL DEBT SERVICE MILLAGE THE AUDITOR SHALL ASK YOU TO LET VNS S AND TRANSFER COLLECT.

SO IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE. SO IF WE VOTE TO CHANGE IT IN ANY WAY WE ARE ACTUALLY

COMMITTING AN ILLEGAL ACT. >> WOULDN'T LOOK AT THAT. >> I HEARD CURT TO THE SCHOOL

DEAD . >> I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT OPERATION GOD.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION DEALT WITH ANY AREA OF THE MILLAGE WHERE THE AUDITOR HAS THE AUTHORITY

TO DO THIS BY STATUTE. >> IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE IN THE STATUTE AS THE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY DEBT. OK. THANK YOU.

SAME LANGUAGE. OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. AND JUST JUST TO CLARIFY SO THE DEBT IS WHERE THERE'S A SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR DELTA BETWEEN WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS FOR THE REFERENDUM THAT VISE WHAT THEY WHAT THE AUDITOR SAID SO THAT IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SETTLED BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY. IS THAT RIGHT?

MR. TAYLOR? >> THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE OBVIOUSLY THE PRIMARY PARTY AND INTEREST THERE. BUT THE SINCE YOU DO APPROVE THEIR BUDGET, YOU DO HAVE A ROLE. SO IT WOULD BE A QUESTION OF HOW FAR THIS COUNTY COUNCIL WANT TO GO IN PUSHING THE ISSUE . BUT PRIMARILY IT WOULD BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THINKING THINKING OK. SO HERE'S THE I WOULD LOVE FOR

THAT TO BE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE CORRECT. >> THAT IS TO SAY THAT WE HAVE SOME MORE AUTHORITY OVER THE OVER THE DEBT MILLAGE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE DO.

I HOPE I'M WRONG. I WAS I PRAY THAT I'M WRONG BUT I DON'T BELIEVE OUR AUTHORITY IS STRICTLY OPERATING M.. AND WE HAVE NO SAY SO WHATSOEVER THE DEBT RIGHT NOW.

SO I COULD PROVE ME WRONG. BELIEVE ME, I'LL BUY YOU A DRINK BUT I THINK I'VE GOT IT

RIGHT. >> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S THE SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND

ON DEBT OR OPERATIONS. >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S ON THE DEBT.

YES, IT'S ON THE AUTHORITY. >> YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T AT THIS POINT.

>> ALL RIGHT. OK. CHAIRMAN'S.

>> YES. WE APPROVED THE CARCINOGEN THE ONE TO SET THE AGENDA.

>> I MEAN WE YOU KNOW WE DID THAT. YES, WE DID THAT.

>> OK. I MISSED IT WAS FAST. THAT'S WHY IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. YEAH, WE DID THAT EARLY ON SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY.

SO MY ASSUMPTION IS THEN THAT IT IS NOT THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO TAKE UP THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DEBT SERVICE AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT THEN THAT ENDS ALL OF THE ACTION ITEMS AND WE ARE

[22. CITIZEN COMMENT (Every member of the public who is recognized to speak shall limit comments to three minutes ‐ Citizens may email sbrock@bcgov.net)]

NOW AT CITIZEN COMMENTS FOR THE SECOND TIME AROUND. I DON'T HAVE ANY IN FRONT OF ME . AND I'M SURE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COMMENTS WERE RELATED TO THE MASK ORDINANCE WHICH NOW HAS BEEN SETTLED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S

[02:30:08]

NECESSARY TO READ THOSE. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS THAT PERTAIN TO

THE AGENDA OR WHAT? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM AND YOU BALANCE THAT OUT YOUR EMAIL WHICH SHE SAID SHE SENT IN AFTER THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION.

BUT I TEXTED HER BACK AND ASKED HER WHAT PLATFORM SHE USED AND I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM HER SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT PLATFORM IS THAT. I'M JUST GOING TO ASK GROWNUP SARAH IF SHE SEES ANYTHING ON THE PLATFORMS THAT SHE HAS OVERSIGHT OF .

>> I'VE READ THE 10 PAGES OF E-MAIL. >> YOU KNOW SHE SAID IT SIX 621

MBNA BUT IT'S ON THE SCREEN. >> IF SOMEBODY WERE TO READ THAT YOU DID YOUR FIRST SET

OKATIE. >> SHE SAID I WISH TO ADDRESS THE MASS RESOLUTION RESOLUTION AND FEDERAL VIOLATIONS OF HEPA AND A D.A. THE RESOLUTION RECOGNIZES THESE ACTS.

IT DOES NOT NOTIFY ALL ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES. I DID READ THIS.

THIS WAS READ. >> BUT I'LL READ IT AGAIN. >> IT DOES NOT NOTIFY ALL ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES THAT IF THEY VIOLATE EITHER THEY CANS THEY CAN STEEP FINES FACE FINES UP TO TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND RESPECTIVELY. AND UNDER HIP ACT UP TO NOW THEREFORE ANYONE WHO POST A MASS MANDATE AND BARS AND TREATS SERVICE HARASSMENT OR INTIMIDATES THAT INDIVIDUAL THEY ARE BREAKING FEDERAL LAW AND FACE CIVIL AND CRIMINAL PENALTIES.

OK. I'M NOT AWARE THAT THAT IS TAKING PLACE.

OK. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OK THEN CLOSE THE SECOND

COMMENT SECTION BEFORE WE ADJOURN. >> IS IT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND GO BACK INTO THE CAUCUS MEETING CHAIR?

>> I THOUGHT THAT. I THOUGHT ACTUALLY YOU HAD A PERSONAL ITEM THAT SOUNDS LIKE

A LITTLE YES, I DO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT SEEMS LIKE HOURS LATE AND EVERYONE SEEMS TIRED. I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION.

SO SINCE WE'RE MEETING IN PERSON TOMORROW I SUBJECTS THAT WE TAKE UP TOMORROW WE'LL NEED

TO AMEND THE AGENDA. >> OK. >> WE CAN DO THAT TOMORROW.

OK. >> REGARDING REGARDING THE MEETING TOMORROW WE HAD SET TO 30 39. YES. ALL THE PUBLICATIONS SAY 3:00 O'CLOCK IN THE LINKED WEB SITE. THE AGENDA I'LL DO. I'M SORRY I WAS NOT NOTIFIED THAT WE WERE DOING 30. I KNOW MR. GLOVER REQUESTED IT AND THEN YOU STATED YOU WERE GONNA DISCUSS IT BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TO. THIRTY THREE AND IT'S MY COUNT

SAYS THREE AS WELL, WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH. >> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. AND GUESS WHAT? IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE THREE

O'CLOCK THEN. SORRY, MR. IT'S ALL RIGHT. >> LET ME ASK QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET A CHANCE TO DO THAT TOMORROW.

SPAIN DOES WAS ASKED A QUESTION IF IT SAYS WE DON'T HAVE A MASS AUDIENCE AT THIS TIME.

BUSINESSES CAN ACTUALLY DECIDE TO KEEP IT OR NOT MAKE THE MANDATE FOR THEM TO COME IN OR CUSTOMERS TO COME IN. MY QUESTION IS CAN THE ADMINISTRATION DO THE SAME THING DEALING WITH MASK AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS OR PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS STUFF JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THAT'S IN FACT HER AUTHORITY TO SAY YES, WE'LL HAVE. NO, WE WILL NOT HAVE MASS. THAT'S ALL.

YES, SIR. I WILL CONTINUE TO ASKING THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE. THAT'S WHAT THE CDC GUIDELINES ARE AT THIS TIME.

>> YEAH, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION REGARDING THAT. I'VE HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS FROM CONSTITUENTS REGARDING THE POLLS BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER POLLS SUCH AS THE YMCA HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR A WHILE. WILL THIS POSSIBLY ALLOW THE POOLS TO BE OPEN IF FOR DISSIDENTS WEAR A MASK? I KNOW YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

DON'T NEED AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW BUT JUST IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT.

>> YEAH. MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK ALSO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE IS STILL IN PLACE UNTIL OCTOBER 20 THIRD ON A ON THE 24TH I THINK SO THAT'S BECAUSE WE DIDN'T RESCIND THE OLD ORDINANCE. WE JUST EXTENDED IT.

SO I THINK WE'RE STILL UNDER A MASK ORDINANCE UNDER OUR ORDINANCES RIGHT OUT TO THE

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TWENTY THIRD OF OCTOBER. >> GOOD POINTS. THAT IS CORRECT.

OK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS BEFORE WE ADJOURN? NO, IT WAS A LONG DAY. OK. SO WITH NO FURTHER ACTION TO BE DONE WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT EIGHT FORTY THREE P.

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1. CALL TO ORDER

4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA

5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- AUGUST 17, 2020 AND AUGUST 24, 2020

8. CITIZEN COMMENT (Every member of the public who is recognized to speak shall limit comments to three minutes ‐ Citizens may email sbrock@bcgov.net)

9. LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS

CONSENT AGENDA

11. AN EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO WEAR FACE COVERINGS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AND LOCATIONS IN THE LIMITS OF THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE

12. County Council Agenda – Beaufort County, SC 12. FIRST READING OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE 2020-2021 BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET ORDINANCE (Part 1 of 2)

15. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ABANDONMENT OF AN EXISTING DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF A RELOCATED DRAINAGE EASEMENT ON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE GRANTOR

16. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA.

17. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE FOR A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT/REZONING REQUEST FOR 3 PARCELS (R600 021 000 0003 0000; R600 021 000 002A 0000; R600 021 000 003A 0000) ON GRAVES ROAD FROM T2 RURAL TO C3 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED-USE; APPLICANT: JUDY GRAVES, KEVIN GRAVES, JAN MCKIM

18. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE $575,000.00 FROM THE H-TAX FUND TO THE HISTORIC MITCHELVILLE FREEDOM PARK FOR PHASE I BUILD OUT OF THE MITCHELVILLE FREEDOM PARK MASTER PLAN

19. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE A MULTI-COUNTY PARK AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND JASPER COUNTY RELATING TO THE TRASK EAST SOLAR, LLC, PROJECT

21. PUBLIC HEARING AND THIRD READING OF AN ORDINANCE DECLARING LOUD AND UNNECESSARY VEHICULAR NOISE A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND PROVIDING THAT VIOLATIONS ARE A MISDEMEANOR

12. County Council Agenda – Beaufort County, SC 12. FIRST READING OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE 2020-2021 BEAUFORT COUNTY BUDGET ORDINANCE (Part 2 of 2)

22. CITIZEN COMMENT (Every member of the public who is recognized to speak shall limit comments to three minutes ‐ Citizens may email sbrock@bcgov.net)

Oct 12, 2020 County Council Regular Session