Sep 25, 2020 Northern Regional Plan Implementation Committee

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IN ON THIS THING. BUT I'M OPEN CALL THE CALL THIS MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 25TH BEAUFORT NORTH REGIONAL PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE AGENDA MEETING TO AND LET'S GO AHEAD

AND START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I BELIEVE IT'S THE FINAL FLY THE NINE SITES OF AND TO WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD MY GOD INDIVISIBLE INDIVISIBLE

WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> SO I THINK FOI HAS BEEN SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY. NOTIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. SO I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION ON THE

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – February 28, 2020]

RIBAUT. >> SO ALL IN FAVOR RAISE OUR VOTE.

GERRY ASHMORE I I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO RECUSE MYSELF SINCE I WAS NOT.

>> SHOOT ME ABSTAIN BECAUSE I WAS NOT AT THAT MEETING. OK THERE SIR.

MEETINGS ARE APPROVED MEETING MINUTES APPROVED. I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR APPROVAL OF

[5. APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA]

YES, GO AHEAD. >> YEAH, I WAS CONTACTED BY STEPHANIE BRODSKY WITH LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL CONFERENCE. SHE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE COMMITTEE AN UPDATE ON A NEW INITIATIVE THEY JUST RECEIVED A GRANT TO DO A RESILIENCY STUDY I BELIEVE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE 2 BASIS OR WITH YOUR STATION PAIR OF SALVADORANS. SO WONDERING IF WE COULD ADD

THAT TO THE AGENDA. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE AND APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE ADDITION OF AN UPDATE FROM A LITTLE COUNTRY COUNCIL AND GOVERNMENTS WHAT ROB JUST SAID

THE TOPIC. >> NEXT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR I I OPPOSED HEARING NONE THAT'S APPROVED BY FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT. DO WE WANT TO MOVE TO THE END OR SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE? ANYBODY FROM THE THAT'S A TIMELY ISSUE.

>> OBVIOUSLY IN THE PAPER THIS MORNING NOT THE BASIS TO BE INTERESTED IN AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. I I WOULD VERY MUCH THINK IT'S A TIMELY ISSUE DISCUSS EARLY IN

THE MEETING. OK. >> WE'LL AND WE'LL MOVE TO THE FRONT OF THE MEETING THEN I'D LIKE TO GO TO ATTEND THE INTRODUCTIONS THAT WE CAN GO

[6. ATTENDEE INTRODUCTIONS]

AROUND AND LET EVERYBODY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, OK? >> WHERE DO YOU TO START? GO AHEAD. HI. ED PAPPAS, YOU FOR COUNTY

PLANNING COMMISSION CARS. >> MAYOR BEAUFORT PALLET PRODUCTS AND SCREEN DONUTS ON SAYING LADIES ISLAND NATION CHAIRMAN'S JOE DE VITO TOWN HALL RAUL MAYOR JERRY FOUR TOWN COUNCIL AND MAYOR PRO TEMPORE ROYAL STEPHEN CURRY CITY ABUSE WERE PAYING THE PART OF MIKE

MCPHEE TODAY. >> AND HONEST TO GOD THE NEW BRIDGES COUNTERFEIT ROYAL

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DIFFERENT COUNTY ME DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. >> SWEET RIBAUT POPULARITY.

>> ERIC YOUR GIRLFRIEND. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

YES. >> I'M HAVING A HEART TIME HEARING SO I.

OK, TAKE I THINK WE'VE GOT MOST EVERYBODY. >> ROB YOU SAID MR. MR. CHAIRMAN COULD I COULD I. SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO TELL ME HOW TO DO IT BUT CAN I CAN SUGGEST THAT MONITOR THE MEETING. MUTE EVERYBODY EXCEPT TO SPEAKING BECAUSE THERE'S MORE BACKGROUND NOISE. NOISE AND MIRRORS.

VOICES. YEAH. EVERYBODY IF YOU GO AHEAD MUTE

THEIR MIKES. >> I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MUTE EVERYONE AND WHEN YOU'RE READY TO SPEAK. IF YOU ALL KNOW HOW TO SPELL OUT ABOUT WANTED FOR THE INTRODUCTION I TEND TO LET IT GO BUT I DEFINITELY IT'S GETTING NOISE AND SO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT RIGHT. AND MIKE TOLD ME CITY OF BEAUFORT METROPOLITAN PLANNING

COMMISSION. >> SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THIS NECESSARILY, ROB, ON THIS ON THIS SYSTEM BUT GO TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.

IF WE HAVE ANY ROB, DO WE HAVE ANY THERAPY? >> NO WAY FOR US TO DO ASSESSMENTS COME OUT ON ON THIS. I DON'T THINK WE'RE BROADCASTING AND WE'RE NOT MONITORING FACEBOOK LIVE SO SIMPLY NOT SOMETHING THAT WE

WORRY ABOUT FOR NO REGIONAL PLAN. >> OK.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO STEPHANIE AND LET YOU GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR DO YOUR REPORT THAT YOU'D LIKE YOUR YOUR ON MUTE MUTE STEPHANIE.

>> I THINK YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE HERE. >> YOU'RE YOUR SOUND IS NOT UP

HIGH ENOUGH YET. >> I'M NOT HEAR ANYTHING IS ANYBODY ELSE?

NOT QUITE YET. STEPHANIE. >> THERE'S AN OPTION TO CALL THE MEETING. MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

LET ME ALTHOUGH YOU SOUNDED LOUDER THAT TIME. NOW YOU CAN HEAR ME.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. I WAS MY MIKE WASN'T WORKING.

I HAVE THREE OPTIONS ON HERE AND I KEEP ALWAYS PICKING THE WRONG ONE.

AND NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THIS MORNING YOU'RE HERE DONNA. >> YEAH, I'M SORRY.

>> YEAH ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WERE WHEN YOU WERE LOUD OR WHETHER YOU WERE CLOSER TO THE MIKE AND NOT EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE STILL NOT GETTING YET.

>> SORRY WE HAVE. MR. CHAIRMAN, WHY SHOES? I'D GET ON MYSELF.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT I JUST TOLD YOU SOME INCORRECT INFORMATION.

WE ARE BROADCAST. THIS MEETING AND I WILL MONITOR.

I WILL MONITOR FACEBOOK LIVE IF WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

OK. >> OH, OK. THANK YOU'RE ROB.

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CAN WE DO ANYTHING? >> YEAH. STEPHANIE, DO YOU WANT TO TRY CALLING IN? OK. SO ON HER CELL, YOU KNOW THERE ARE NO COMMENTS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT ON FACEBOOK. CHAIRMAN OK.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. >> OK, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> NOW WE CAN AREA BY THE I'M

TRYING TO GET RID OF IT ECHO NEED TO MEET YOUR COMPUTER. >> NEED TO MUTE THE SPEAKER ON

YOUR COMPUTER AND AT THE MICROPHONE. >> YEAH.

>> TURNER SPEAKING TO OUR FINGER I HOPE. I DON'T KNOW.

RIGHT IN THE BOTTOM, RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT, STEPHANIE. THE GIRL LOOKS LIKE A SPEAKER.

LOOK, OBVIOUSLY EXCELLENT ON THE BOTTOM LINE. OK.

ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY ABOUT TO TAKE MY SEAT.

I REALLY APOLOGIZE. SO THIS MUST BE JUST REALLY QUICK AT THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE

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DEVELOPED COUNTRY CODE FOR A GOVERNMENT BY APPLIED FOR A GRANT AND WITH A GIFT GIMME GIMME CODE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND WE WERE AWARDED SUCCESSFULLY FOUR HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS TO DO A MILK LEASE RESILIENCY REVIEW FOR BOTH THE AIR STATION AS WELL AS THE DEPOT AND INCLUDING ALL THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES RELATE TO THE IMPACT OF NATURAL HAZARDS THAT WOULD AFFECT THE BASE AND THOSE AREAS. SO THE GOAL OF THE PROJECT IS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO PROTECT THE RESOURCES NECESSARY TO ENHANCE THE RESILIENCY INSTALLATION.

THIS INCLUDES SURROUNDING COMMUNITY MOST THE COMMUNITIES OUR WATER SUPPLY TRANSPORTATION OUR HOUSING, OUR ECONOMIC, EDUCATIONAL AND RETAIL SERVICES TO THE MILITARY POPULATION.

>> THE PROJECT IS WOULD DETERMINE WHAT CHANGES AND IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT AREA AND THE AREAS INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY. THE PROJECT IS GOING TO 18 MONTHS I WOULD BE CONCLUDING IN FEBRUARY 20. THIS GROUP I BELIEVE WOULD SERVE AS ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO PREVIOUS PROJECT WHO'S DONE WITH THE BASE IN THAT AREA AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT ROLE

FOR YOU FOLKS. >> AND SABRINA GRAHAM IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FROM AL-QAIDA WOULD BE REACHING OUT TO LOCAL FICTIONS THE LOCAL. OTHER ISSUES AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP. WE JUST SIGNED THAT PAPERWORK LAST WEEK ON THIS GRANT AND THE GRANT AGREEMENT. SO WE'RE JUST STARTING TO KICK OFF.

WE WOULD OF COURSE WOULD BE COMING BACK IN THE FUTURE WITH A MORE FORMAL PRESENTATION.

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THANK YOU, STEPHANIE. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEPHANIE SEEING OR HEARING?

>> NO THANKS. STEPHANIE WOULD APPRECIATE WHEN I HAD ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.

WILL YOU BE INCLUDING THE COUNTY, THIS CITY OR OR THE TOWN IN THIS COMMITTEE THAT'S

GOING TO BE DOING THE REVIEW? >> YEAH, WE WILL BE TALKING AGAIN LIKE THE COUNTY PARTICULARLY BEFORE AND PORT ROYAL WILL BE BIG PLAYERS AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S INTERESTED. I'M HAVING A ROLE IN THIS AS WELL.

OK, THANK YOU, STEPHANIE. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

[8. LADY’S ISLAND PLAN IMPLEMENTATION]

>> YES, OK. THANK YOU. WELL, GOOD MORNING.

BEEN A WHILE SINCE BUT AT A MEETING WE HAD ONE THE OTHER DAY AND AT OUR LAST MEETING WHEN REVIEWED THE TWO FELL ORDINATES AND THE COASTAL RESIDENTS OVERLAY DISTRICT COORDINATES AND WE RECEIVED SOME QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM SURVEYORS AND LAWYERS AND

THEN THE CHAMBER IS GOING TO CHIME IN. >> WE'VE GOT.

ROB HAS A MEETING WITH THEM. I'LL BE AT THAT. AND JUST TO SEE IF WE CAN ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS WITH THE FAILED ORDINANCE AND SOME OTHER ITEMS WHERE WE'LL BE WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR SOME MAPS OR OVER THAT ON THAT WE FORWARDED ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED ROB AND HE'S GOING TO PUT A MATRIX TOGETHER WITH THEM AND ADDRESS THEM AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN SMOOTH OUT SOME OF THE BUMPS WE MAY HAVE GOT OR OBJECTIONS.

I THINK AT THE NEXT MEETING WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW IT AND PROBABLY MOVE IT ONTO YOUR

COMMITTEE AND SO THINKING THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME PROGRESS. >> WE HAD A LOT OF WE FAILED SOME VACANCIES FROM FROM SEVERAL ON OUR COMMITTEE AND AND WE FORMED A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE VILLAGE PLAN AND WE DID THAT MOSTLY TO COORDINATE WITH ZONING AND TRAFFIC AND TO KEEP

IT ON TOP OF OUR LIST. >> WE KNOW THAT THE FUNDING MAY NOT BE HERE UNTIL NEXT YEAR SOMETIME BUT OR MAYBE TO THE END OF NEXT YEAR. WE WANT TO KEEP IT VIABLE AND KEEP IT SOMETHING THAT IS ONE OF OUR GOALS. AND AS TRAFFIC AND OTHER ITEMS SOME SO WE FAILED SOME SOME VACANCIES WE HAD ON OUR COMMITTEE OUR VISE CHAIRMAN AND AS MIKE TOLD ME BEFORE CANNING PLANNING COMMISSION IT IS GOING TO BE JASON HENSHAW THE LADIES ALLEN LEP REPRESENTATIVE OBEY DAVID STRIP IN AND JESSE WHITE WILL THE WILL BE THE NEW COASTAL CONSERVATION MEMBER ON BOARD OUR TOWN CENTER VILLAGE CENTER COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE MIKE TELL ME JESSE WHITE FROM COASTAL CONSERVATION AND CHUCK NEWTON FROM C. ALAN COALITION, JASON HENSHAW AND MYSELF AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO TRY TO KEEP KEEP PUTTING THINGS TOGETHER AND ADDRESS THE CHANGE IN TRAFFIC OR ZONING ITEMS THAT MAY COME UP.

>> PAUL BATISTA AND CAROLINE FURMAN LEFT WHO RESIGNED AND FOR A LOT OF REASONS BUT ALL I

WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND ROBBED. >> YOU MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO MAKE ON THE TWO ORDINANCES THAT NOW PASS THE TIME BACK TO YOU.

UNLESS THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS, I THINK YOU COVERED IT PRETTY WELL.

>> YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST YEAR. WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A A SEA LEVEL RISE TASK FORCE TO LOOK NOT ONLY AT THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY WHICH IS ANOTHER TERM FOR THE SEA LEVEL RISE OVERLAY THAT THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN FOR THE FILM AUDIENCE AND THEN ALSO SINCE WE GOT TOGETHER WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK NOT ONLY AT THOSE TWO AUDIENCES BETTE BUT REVISITS OUR COUNTY AND MUNICIPALITIES RESPONSE TO THE THREAT OF SEA LEVEL RISE AND CLIMATE CHANGE. AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON COMING UP WITH A REVISED SEA LEVEL RISE TO PORT. SO THE COUNTY THAT WILL COME UP

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AND SO WE MET WITH ALAN PATTERSON HAS DONE A GOOD JOB IN TRYING TO GET AS MANY COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE REPRESENTED DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

DAVID GASOLINE SURVEYOR HAS BEEN A GREAT RESOURCE BECAUSE HE SEES THESE THINGS DAY TO DAY AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ENCOUNTER. SO WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THEIR COMMENTS. I THINK THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE VERY VALID.

AND SO WE'RE MAKING SOME REVISIONS AND AS ALAN MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON OCTOBER 6TH. SO ONCE WE HAVE A DRAFT IT'LL GO BACK TO THE LATEST ISLAND IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE AND THEN ONCE THEY APPROVE IT, MOVE ON TO THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR ADOPTION.

SO IT'S BEEN A LONG PROCESS BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF THING WHERE THE YOU DON'T WANT TO CREATE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND YOU KNOW, FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS. YOU KNOW, WHEN OUR GOAL IS REALLY THESE LARGE SCALE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO BRING IN A LOT OF FILL AND ALTER THE FLOODPLAIN SO THAT'S THAT'S FOR IT NOW. CAN I CAN I ADD SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? I THINK THE AT LEAST ANOTHER REGIONAL PLAN SHOULD CERTAINLY

BE AWARE OF PLEASE. >> OH YEAH. YOU ALL MAY HAVE DISCUSSED THIS ROB. FOCUSED ON A FEW OTHER ITEMS HERE LATELY BUT THERE IS ENGINEERING IS WORKING ON THE TRANSPORTATION PART OF LADIES. ALAN, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN THE LOOP ON ALL OF THAT FROM JD ALLEN PLANNING STANDPOINT PARTICULARLY AS THE IMPLEMENTATION PART GOES. I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION BOB UP THERE WITH THEM BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY NEED TO KEEP ON OUR RADAR AND BASICALLY MAKE SURE WE'RE INVOLVED IN THAT AS THAT GOES FORWARD. SO JUST JUST FOR THE COMMITTEE WILL WE MAY NEED JUROR ASSISTANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY INVOLVED IN THAT

PLANNING EFFORT THERE. >> IT GETS A I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD.

I'M SORRY. MR. MAYOR, I KEEP YOUR HAND UP SO I DEFER TO YOU, SIR.

>> YOU'RE MUTED. YOU CAN HOLD SPACEBAR AND IF YOU HOLD THE SPACE IT'LL TAKE

YOU OFF ME TEMPORARILY. >> OKAY. I AM MUTED HERE.

OKAY. >> I HAVE NOT I HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THIS.

>> STEPHEN HAS. BUT WHEN WE TALK ORIGINALLY ABOUT THE SEA LEVEL RISE OVERLYING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A REAL ESTATE DISCLOSURE. WE WEREN'T REALLY TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS. WE JUST FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THAT SELLER BUYER AND FILTER DISCLOSE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE KNOW TO A BUYER.

AND I'M HOPING THAT STILL PART OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO AT THIS POINT INTRUDE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

I THINK WE JUST MADE AS WE DO WITH THE AQR WE HAVE ALL OUR LIVES.

OKAY. SO THERE ARE RISES. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE SAME AND THAT'S DISAGREE WITH THE FELLOW ORDINANCE. I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO MAKE THAT I SEE THEM AS DIFFERENT AND DON'T KNOW THAT TO BE A DISCLOSURE BUT JUST CURIOUS AID

IS THE DISCLOSURE ON SEA LEVEL OVERLAY STILL ON THE TABLE? >> AND SECONDLY HOW WE WOULD TREAT THE PUBLIC ON ON THE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND BY M. ON ON THE SALE OUR WELL NO.

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>> WELL I MEAN THE FILM AUDIENCES A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS THESE LEVEL RISE IT IS MORE LIKE A CASE MECHANISM AS YOU MENTIONED AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE PRONE TO FLOODING IN THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.

>> WE'RE FIGHTING ON SOME MAPS TO COME OUT. BUT THE FELLOW ORDINANCE WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D GET WHEN WE PERMITTED A HOUSE OR TRIED TO GET A PROCESS THROUGH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH.

JUST TO EMPHASIZE THERE'S TWO ORDINANCES IN THERE. I WOULD SAY THE LESSER CONTROVERSIAL ONE IS THE SEA LEVEL RISE OVER LAKE AND IT DOES JUST THAT.

IT DOES THE NOTIFICATION DISCLOSURE FOR WHEN PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED UP ALAN AND ROB THE STABLE WAS MENTIONED THAT TO BOTH THOSE ORDINANCES ARE GONNA COME ABOUT BEFORE THIS GROUP.

WHAT IS THE PLANNING? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT WHAT THOSE ORDINANCES AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS TO BEING IMPLEMENTED?

>> I MIGHT BE WRONG BUT I THINK THAT COME OUT OF MY COMMITTEE AND GO TO YOURS GO TO THE

NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN. >> BUT ROB ROB PROBABLY KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE MECHANISMS. WELL, I HAVEN'T MAPPED OUT IN MY HEAD LOOKS SAY THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT ONCE IT CLEARS LADIES IRELAND'S IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE IT COMES TO THE NORTHERN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE. AND YOU KNOW THE PLAN MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO MS THAT THIS WOULD THEN BE FORWARDED TO THE COUNTY THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL ALWAYS PARTICIPANTS IN THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN. SO THAT'S WHY WE THINK THIS COMMITTEE IS REALLY KEY. AND SEEING THE AUDIENCE GETTING ONE LAST LOOK AT IT BEFORE IT SENT TO EACH OF THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS FOR ADOPTION TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE DIRECTION I I THINK THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD SEE IT.

>> BIOMED QUESTION WOULD BE AS SOMEONE REMEMBER WHEN WE STARTED TALKING FROM THIS COMMITTEE ABOUT METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION, WE GOT OUT BECAUSE IT WAS PERCEIVED TO BE HAVE IMPLICATIONS COUNTY WIDE. WE HAD A DIVIDE ON COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT US TO DO ANYTHING THAT MIGHT AFFECT THEM. SO WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD JUST AFFECT A DEFINED AREA RATHER THAN A COUNTY WIDE

ORDINANCE? >> THE REASON IT WOULD APPLY TO YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNTY ADOPTED IT, IT WOULD APPLY TO ALL THOSE UNINCORPORATED FOR COUNTY. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ALSO BROUGHT IN REPRESENTATIVES FROM BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD.

AND SO IT'S TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE KIND OF COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AS WELL AND IF THEY ARCH IS A WAY THAT WE CAN DO DO IT MORE MORE SPECIFICALLY BY REGION OR ZONE THAT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE'VE BEEN SORT OF I'VE BEEN KIND OF DISCOURAGING DOING THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY WERE TO CHALLENGE, YOU KNOW, A NON LADY'S ISLAND LEAD, THEY WOULD SAY WELL WHY ARE YOU IMPOSING THIS PHIL ORDINANCE HERE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WHO'S

IN ANOTHER COUNTY? >> NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> I JUST REMEMBER THEY ARTIFICIAL REASONS FOR MEMBERS OF COUNTY COUNCIL OPPOSE OUR METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT MIGHT IT MIGHT HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THEM.

SAME KIND OF AN ISSUE. BUT BUT WE DID FINALLY PROCEED AND THEY AND THEY AGREED TO US, YOU KNOW, SO LOCO HAS TAKEN ON SORT OF AN IDENTITY OF ITS AND SEEMS TO BE MOVING RATHER INDEPENDENTLY AT LOOKING YET EXCEPT PROBABLY THE STAFF LEVEL AT LOOKING AT ISSUES REAL SPECIFIC TO THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND AND JASPER COUNTY AND YOU KNOW IN MANY WAYS ALL SIZES DON'T FIT ALL THERE. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIABLES NOT THE LEAST OF THE FIRST OF COURSE IS WHICH PUBLIC SAFETY AND AND DISCLOSURE.

BUT THE SECOND IS IS AS A TOOL AS THIS REALLY F SURFACED WITH US AS A TOOL FOR MANAGING

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SO I JUST IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE COULD DO A COUNTY WIDE PROBLEM.

BUT BUT BUT YOU KNOW WITHOUT A ACCUSES IS NOT COUNTY WIDE. IT'S IT'S FOR I THINK BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T AFFECT OTHERS. SO I WOULD ARGUE STRENUOUSLY THAT WE'RE NOT YET HELD UP IN A NORTH SOUTH POLE. I WOULD ARGUE ALSO STRENUOUSLY THAT WE DO ALL WE CAN TO HAVE

UNIFORMITY HERE. >> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WORKING IN OUR FAVOR IS THAT SOUTH OF THE BRONZE COMMERCIAL AREAS ARE GENERALLY PLAYGROUNDS.

>> AND SO WE'RE NOT FACING THE SAME CHAP THAT WE DID AT WAL-MART OR ANYWHERE.

IF SOMEBODY TEMPORARILY BRINGING IN FILM IN A LOW LYING AREA SO HOPEFULLY THAT MIGHT HAVE THE IMPACT DISORDERED IN SOUTH OF THE BORDER FAR LESS WITH THE UNTIL HAD ISLANDS AND

THAT'S THAT. >> SO THAT'S WE'VE INVITED THEM TO.

IT'S REALLY WE KIND OF SEE TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO TAKE THIS STEP BECAUSE BECAUSE THIS THIS IS NOT ONLY SHIP TRANSPARENCY WHERE THE BUYER IS PREDICTABILITY OF PLANNING AND THEIR AUDIENCE IF IF IF IT IMPACT IF IT'S WHETHER INTENDED OR UNDER INTENDED IMPACT IT CHANGES THE DYNAMICS GROWTH THAT OF COURSE CHANGES THE DYNAMICS BRIDGES OF CONGESTION OF TRANSPORTATION LANDS AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE PUT WE WE INTENTIONALLY TRIED TO PUT ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO THE MIX SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE BETTER PLANNING TOOLS AND TERMS AND

INVESTING THE RESOURCES ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. >> YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS SAID AND IT'S IT'S IT'S OUT OF MIND LANE BUT THIS IS THE AND THIS IS A PERSONAL POINT OF VIEW.

SPENDING ALL THAT MONEY ON BRIDGES TO HELP THEM HAD MORE EFFECTIVE THAN IN PAST THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH WOULD MITIGATE HALF THE TRAFFIC ON THOSE BRIDGES.

LOOKING AT WHAT ME HAD WELL LOOK LIKE BY THE TIME THOSE BRIDGES ARE BUILT WE WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT OF THIS SINGULAR APPROACH. THERE'S ONE ANSWER TO EVERY PROBLEM AND AS WE'VE DONE AND WE'VE TRIED TO DO FOR THE TWELVE YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR PURPOSES IS TO LOOK OVER THE JURISDICTIONS WHAT WE DO IN IMPACTS OTHER OTHER AREAS AND TAKE A LET'S SAY A 3D LOOK AT AT AT ALL OF THE ISSUES RATHER THAN ISOLATING TO THE TO THE DESIRE OF ENGINEERS. WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ROADS AND BRIDGES. I PROBABLY SAID ENOUGH WELL I CAN CARRY IT NOW AS FAR AS THE FAIL ORDINANCE THE CITY TAKE WILL FACE A CHALLENGE WITH A DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE PARKWAY BECAUSE THERE'S COMMERCIAL PLANNED WAY YOU'RE GOING TO BE ACTUALLY FILLING THOSE SITES

AND THEN I WENT OUT LOOKING FOR COMMENTS. >> THEY SAID WE DON'T CARE.

WE'RE IN THE CITY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE UNDEVELOPED LAND RIGHT THERE.

THE TRAFFIC LIGHT GO INTO THE AIRPORT VERTICAL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BRING AND FINLAND THAT THAT WOULD TEST THE CITY AND TOOK THAT UP ADDRESSING AND SEE IN WHICH THE PROBLEMS SUCH AS HAVING SERIOUS . FAIR ENOUGH.

AND I'M JUST LOOKING IT'S ALAN AS YOU MOVE FURTHER TO BLUFFTON AND THOSE VANESSA COUNTIES.

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SO I THINK AS LONG AS WE CAN CONTINUE TO CREATE A BROAD COALITION, I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO WORK SOUTH OF THE BROAD TO HELP GET OUR FOLKS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

>> WE JUST CAN'T CONTINUE TO ALLOW BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT ON INAPPROPRIATE LANDS WHERE WE KNOW THE EFFECTS OF RISING SEA LEVELS OVER THE COMING DECADES AND WE ALREADY HAVE MORE

LIABILITIES THAN WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO TAKE CARE OF TODAY. >> IT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT SIMPLY NOT. I'D LIKE TO SWITCH GEARS IF WE CAN TO THE LADY'S ISLAND VILLAGE MASTERPLAN. I APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE AT THE LAST IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE MEETING NOW AND I HAD TO GO TO MY KID'S SCHOOL AND MEET THE TEACHERS. I WAS THAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE. HOLD ON. LOOK, BEFORE YOU SWITCH PLANS

THERE I'M SORRY TO DO THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I ASKED A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL LIKE THE THE ROADMAP IS DISORDERED AND WE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT ROADMAP IS LOOKING LIKE IS FOR THIS TO WORK. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A UNIFIED ORDINANCE AMONGST THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITIES AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO GET TO THAT POINT.

SO I THINK ROB, YOU SAID YOU'VE GOT IT MAPPED OUT IN YOUR HEAD AND EVERYTHING THAT I'VE EVER WORKED WITH YOU ON THAT'S MAPPED OUT IN YOUR HEAD AS HAS WORKED VERY WELL.

BUT I THINK WE NEED TO START SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT THE LONG TERM ROADMAP FOR GETTING THESE UNIFIED ORDINANCES POSSIBLY PASSED THROUGHOUT BECAUSE IT WILL BECOME THE OLD DAYS OF ANNEXATION WARS AND OTHER ISSUES IF WE DON'T ALL WORK TOGETHER AND HAVE THAT THE LADY'S ISLAND GROUP IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF COMING UP WITH A BASE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS FILL

AUDITS. >> BUT I WANT REMIND EVERYBODY. ME AND THE TOWN HAVE NO VOTING RIGHTS ON THAT COMMITTEE. SO WE AS THE CITY AND THE TOWN HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A VOTE TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT AUDIENCE TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT THAT'S GOING TO COME AT THIS GROUP LEVEL AND THEN BEYOND TO OUR COUNCIL LEVELS.

SO THAT'S THE PIECE THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, STEPHEN, THAT WE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SUBJECT. NOW I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE FRAMER THAT'S WHAT THIS GROUP BILLY AND I ARE THE LONGEST MEMBERS ON THIS GROUP.

THAT'S WHAT THIS GROUP WAS FORMED TO DO ORIGINALLY AND THAT'S HOW THE NPC CAME OUT IN THIS TWO WEEK SO THAT THESE UNIFIED THINGS CAN BE REALLY BEDDED OUT AT THIS LEVEL AND MOVED ON. YEAH. NO JOE, I'M SORRY I JUMPED ON YOUR RIGHT. I WOULD JUST FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT I WOULD SAY IT COMES DOWN TO IMPLEMENTATION BY NEXT MONTH. AND SO IF THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING COMES HERE BUT THEN I WOULD MAYBE SUGGEST TO BILLY'S POINT THAT IT ALSO GETS BRIEFED SO LOCO SO THEY CAN THEY CAN TAKE A BITE AT THAT APPLE THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE.

AND I YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY THIS TO STAFF BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE TO A COUNTY COMMITTEE SOMEWHERE WITH LESS NATURAL RESOURCES OR GOVERNMENTAL ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS PICK BUT THEN TO EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE MUNICIPALITY ADMINS MUNICIPAL WORKSHOPS FOR I THINK THE FIRST BITE OF THE APPLE AND SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE IT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSIONS BECAUSE THEN IT PROBABLY HAS TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSIONS REVIEW AND THEN BACK TO THE COUNTING THE MINUTES COUNTIES FOR FIRST READING THAT.

>> YEAH. >> AND I THINK JASON CARROLL IS A PLASTIC BAG MAN.

YOU KNOW WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN IT OPTIMIZE ACROSS THE BOARD AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS RIGHT. KIND OF SIMILAR IT NEEDS NEEDS HAVE ADVOCATES IN THIS TIME AND AND THE DOG ORDINANCES TO THE DOG ORDINANCES THE CONSISTENT ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE WAS

DONE THE SAME WAY. >> ROB AND REMEMBER SO LOCO HAS NO AUTHORITY AS THIS COMMITTEE DOES. THERE'S NO UP OR DOWN VOTE ON ANY.

IT'S A VERY IT'S A DIFFERENT CHARTER THAN THIS GROUP. >> WELL, WE DON'T BUT WE DON'T REALLY THIS THIS COMMITTEE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE AUTHORITY EITHER.

RIGHT. BOKO WE DO HAVE SOME AUTHORITY BUT WITH YES, YOU HAVE A PARTY

AS WAS AN ADVISORY BODY THE COLLIDER AND COUNCIL'S YES. >> WELL I KNOW FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES 40 OR SO LOCAL DOES KNOW THAT AS SOON AS WE HAVE SOMETHING OUR FIVE MAYORS

IF PARTICIPATES WHICH I HOPE THEY DO. >> OUR FIVE MEMBERS WILL SIT DOWN WITH IT AND WORK OUT OUR DIFFERENCES SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO COUNSEL I HOPE WE'D

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BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS MUNICIPALITY WOULD INSIST THAT WE TALK WITH OUR SISTER MUNICIPALITIES AND TO IN TERMS OF HAVING OF AN APPROACH THAT MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION.

YEAH. IF I MAY ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

AS THE MAYOR JUST SAID, I THINK WHAT MIGHT BE THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION HERE IS ONCE EVERYTHING HAS WORKED OUT FROM OUR STANDPOINT IS THERE IS GOING TO BE CERTAIN STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE MAY NEED TO MEET WITH. I KNOW THE BEAUFORT CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS VERY INTERESTED IN YOU KNOW, ALL NUTS. HOW DO WE.

WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AT THE STAFF LEVEL WITH IAN THERE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME MEETINGS WITH SOME OF THOSE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT BEFORE WE DO ANY ACTION WE KIND OF FOLLOW THE MODEL THAT WE USED FOR THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND IS THAT WE MEET OR GO TO THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITY AND EXPLAIN TO THEM THE CONCEPTS AT LEAST FOR A BASIS OF EDUCATING SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE BACKGROUND AND THE DETAILS BECAUSE ONCE WE START GOING TO A COMMITTEE

COUNTLESS ONES ARE PLANNING COMMISSIONS. >> THEY'RE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS MAY GET CAUGHT ABOUT IT AND WE PROBABLY NEED TO GIVE THEM THE BACKGROUND AND THE BASIS FOR ALL OF THOSE. SO THAT PART CAN CALL CALLS BEFORE OFFICIAL REVIEWS START OCCURRING. THEY WILL HAVE SOME ACTIONS OR AT LEAST KNOW HOW TO GET THE ANSWERS SHOULD THEIR CONSTITUENTS START TO REACHING OUT TO THEM.

I THINK THE BEST APPROACH THAT WE THAT WE NOT DO ANY KIND OF OFFICIAL PRESENTATION OR ACTION THAT ANYBODY UNTIL WE'VE MET WITH ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES INDIVIDUALLY OVER THIS ORDINANCE AND GET THEIR BECAUSE THEY MAY THEY MAY SUGGEST THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH. WE MIGHT HAVE OVERLOOKED JUST LIKE I HOPE WE'RE DOING WITH

IMPACT FEES. >> YOU CAME OUT AND GAVE A PRESENTATION WILL GIVE TO ALL WE WILL AS MAYORS SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY AFFECT EACH IN EACH EACH OF US AND HOW WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT THAT WORKS COUNTYWIDE.

I AGREE WITH THAT, TERRY. GOOD. >> YOU HAVE STATED.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. ARE WE MOVING CLEAN? KOOL-AID IS NOT A PLANT.

>> I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE VILLAGE MASTERPLAN EXERCISE IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU. WELL SAID.

I MISSED THE LAST MEETING OF THE MASTER PLAN SO I APOLOGIZE. STEPPING ON EVERYTHING HERE.

BUT IF WE LOOKED AT THE MINUTES THAT WE JUST APPROVED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING IN THE FEBRUARY MEETING WE DID HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL TO MOVE THE LADIES OUT OF THE WITH MASTERPLAN AND EXERCISE AN RFP ONTO COUNTY COMMITTEE ONTO CITY COUNCIL AND ON TO THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING COMMISSION WAS WAS THE LANGUAGE TO FIND SOME SUPPORT.

I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT KOGUT HAS KICKED US IN THE TEETH IN TERMS OF MEETING SCHEDULES AND REVENUES FOR THE BOTH THE RESPECTIVE COUNTY AND THE AND THE CITY.

BUT I MAINTAIN THAT THE ISLAND DISTRICT MASTER MASTERPLAN EXERCISE IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT AND I'M AT THE ESSENCE TO MR. GREENWAY POINTING EARLIER.

WE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING IS MOVING GLAUDE ON THE STAND TIP TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS

THAT WERE PASSED IN THE SALES TAX REFERENDUM. >> IF WE LOOK AT SOME OBJECTS AROUND THE ROAD HAUL SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING LADY'S ISLAND OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO IT'S VERY DISJOINTED. THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HARMONY BETWEEN COUNTY ZONING AND CITY ZONING. I THINK THE CITY ZONING THAT WE HAVE THERE IS MAYBE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE VISION THAT'S BEEN LAID OUT IN THE

LADY'S ISLAND. >> THE LADIES OWN PLAN. SO WE'VE GOT A TRANSPORTATION STUDY, STAN. WE'VE GOT A VISIONING DOCUMENT IN THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND 30 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY.

I THINK OUR IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE HAS AGREED THAT THOSE THINGS ARE VERY DISJOINTED AND VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE BOUNDARY STREET MASTERPLAN WHICH WAS A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. WE NEED TO PULL ALL THOSE PIECES TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THERE'S ALIGNMENT BEFORE WE START PUTTING SHOVELS IN THE GROUND. SO I DON'T I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER BECAUSE AGAIN I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE A BIG CHECKBOOK. I THINK I'D ASK CITY STAFF TO

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AS POSSIBLE. >> AND THE LAST ONE OF THE ISSUES WE PUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE UP THERE SO WE CAN ANTICIPATE FUNDING AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

WELL, MR. PATTERSON, I JUST FROM THIS FROM THIS COMMITTEE IT'S ALREADY BEEN MOVED OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE ONTO ONTO THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS SINCE WE HAVE STAKEHOLDERS AROUND THIS TABLE THAT ARE IN THE RESPECTIVE ORGANIZATIONS. I PERSONALLY THINK SORT OF THE IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE HANDS AT THIS POINT AND IT'S A COUNTY CITY ISSUE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE ON DOWN THE ROAD. SO I WANT TO PUT IT ON THE TABLE FOR A LITTLE DISCUSSION.

>> YEAH, FROM THAT FROM THE COUNTY STAFFERS I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING FOR THAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD DO.

I'VE BEEN A BIG BELIEVER OVER THERE A LADIES AISLE AND A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN DO AND IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN I THINK WE NEED TO BE AS CREATIVE AND AS EFFICIENT AND AS EFFECTIVE WITH A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING OVER THERE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE WORK. IF WE MISSED THE BOAT ON THAT SIDE OF THE EQUATION, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES IMPLEMENTING THE REST OF THAT PARTICULAR PLAN FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT. ALSO I THINK IN OMAHA SAY THIS AND KNOW THERE'S NO REACT YOU CAN REACT THE WAY YOU WANT TO BUT I THINK ALSO WE HAVE A LOT OF VARIOUS OPENINGS OVER THERE IN THE COUNTY AND A LOT OF DISTRICT STEP WORK DIFFERENTLY.

AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR THE STAFFS AT THE COUNTY AND THE CITY TO LEVEL FOR US TO GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE, EVALUATE THE ZONING THERE AND SEE IF THAT MIGHT BE TIME TO COME UP WITH A ZONING PLAN THAT WORKS SITTING ON THE COUNTING THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE VARIOUS PRESERVATION DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE THERE BECAUSE I'VE HAD SEVERAL ISSUES IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WHERE THE PRESERVATION DISTRICT DON'T REGULATE SOMETHING OR ALLOW THINGS THAT WILL NOT BE BENEFICIAL OR APPROPRIATE FOR THE CONTINUED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LADIES I WOULD LINE. SO I JUST UM I JUST STARTED THAT OUT THAT IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR US TO EVALUATE A COMP THE ZONING OVER THERE AND A MORE COMPREHENSIVE FASHION TO SEE IF

WE CAN UNIFY THAT CITY AIR AMERICA. >> STEVEN, I AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU AND I KNOW THIS IS HARPING A LITTLE BIT BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AND THAT IS THAT MOST OF THE TRAFFIC THAT GETS THE LADY'S ISLAND COMES THROUGH THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AND DOWN REPORT ROAD YOU CAN NOT LOOK AT A TRANSPORTATION PLAN UNLESS YOU ARE LOOKING AT RIBAUT ROAD AND DISCUSSING IT WITH US. THAT IS OUR MAIN STREET.

IT NEEDS TO BECOME PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. SLOW IT DOWN AND GET THE CARS MOVE THROUGH EFFICIENTLY. PLEASE DO NOT EXCLUDE US FROM TRAFFIC PLANNING.

WELL JOE, I THINK I AM. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE THIS IS MORE THE LANES ON VILLAGE VILLAGE MASTERPLAN WHICH WE DEFINE AS AN AREA FROM WHITEHALL TO ABOUT PUBLIX. AND I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT THAT SORT OF BECOMES DOWNTOWN LADY'S ISLAND OVER TIME IT BECOMES MORE WALKABLE, BECOMES MIXED USE BECOMES A LITTLE MORE URBAN THAT HOPEFULLY CAPTURE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC THAT HAS TO COME OVER A BRIDGE, GO INTO OUR JURISDICTIONS EVERY DAY. AND SO I THINK THE IDEA IS THROUGH PLANNING AND LAND USE WE ACTUALLY CAN REDUCE THE IMPACTS ON THOSE BRIDGES LONG TERM PLUS MAKE THAT QUARTER WORK A WHOLE LOT BETTER I THINK TO MR. GREENWAY IS POINT ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW THE ZONING IS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THEN I MEAN THE GOOD NEWS IS WE GOT THE MONEY IN THE BANK. THERE'S 30 MILLION DOLLARS FOR TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS TO BE TO BE PUT IN OVER THERE. BUT I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'VE TAKEN A HOLISTIC APPROACH. WE'VE BEEN TAKING THIS PIECEMEAL APPROACH TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON LADY'S ISLAND AND I'M JUST WORRIED THAT WE'VE DONE ALL THIS WORK IS GONNA BE DISJOINTED AND WE GET WE GET ONE SHOT AT IT.

I MEAN IF YOU DRIVE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR, LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDINGS, LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT AND WITH GROWTH IT'S COME IN. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SITES THAT ARE GONNA BE REDEVELOPED IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. LET'S GET AHEAD OF IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC TABLE ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND ZONING AND VISION IS SET BEFORE THE GUESTS

ARRIVE YOUR CLUB WHAT CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK TO ME. >> YES SIR.

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OK. >> I AGREE WITH STEVE ON THIS MATTER AND I'M ASSUMING AND ERIC AND PROBABLY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT THE INTERNET ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY MAKING SOME PRINT ELIMINATE PLANS FOR THAT AREA. THEY'RE NOT SPEAKING TO THE FOLKS AT THE CITY LEVEL AND IF NOT I AGREE WITH STEVEN THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME

COORDINATING EFFORT GOING FORWARD. >> THEY ARE.

I'VE HEARD FROM JARED FRIED LIKE HE JUST SAID THERE ABOUT YORK.

YOU JUST SENT ME REQUEST TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT ALL THE DATA THEY'RE GOING FORWARD WITH THE RELOOK ON THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY AND LATE AND MR. GLOVER COUNTY ENGINEERING HAD AN UPDATE TO THE IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE AT THE MEETING BEFORE LAST AND BROUGHT US UP TO SPEED

ON ALL THE PROJECTS IN KIND WHERE THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS. >> SO I THINK COUNT HE'S BEEN DOING A NICE JOB ON KEEPING US UP TO SPEED. I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT THAT'S BUT WE'VE GOTTEN OTHER PIECES THAT AREN'T AND THEN AREN'T IN PLACE YOUR BEAUTY MR. WOULD AGREE WITH YOU WITH ALL THOSE COMMENTS SIMILARLY I THINK WE STARTED IN THE PROCESS WE HAVE

REALLY STARTED. >> WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ORGANIZE PROCESS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND BRING ALL THOSE ELEMENTS TOGETHER AND DAVID HAS ALLOWED ALLOWED US TO HAVE A SET ASIDE A ROOM OVER THE CITY THAT WE CAN BRING ALL THOSE PIECES OF INFORMATION TOGETHER AND START TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM COLLECTIVELY AND WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO HAVE ERIC AND ROB INVOLVED WITH SOMEBODY FROM THE TOWN AS WELL TO TAKE A LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE ITEMS. BUT WE'VE STARTED TO PUT A COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO TRY AND GET A HANDLE ON THAT SPECIFICALLY TO THE DIY LADY'S ISLAND QUARTER THERE.

AS STEVE WAS SUGGESTION SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH AT LEAST STARTING TO COLLECT ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT COUNTY AND CITY

ZONING ISSUES ON THE ISLAND. >> YEAH, I JUST. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW WOULD REENTER YOU KNOW, TOO OFTEN WE COME UP WITH AN EMERGENCY TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT ACTUALLY LEAVES DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN DEVELOPING A PLAN WHERE OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS SUPPORT IT AND MAKE IT WORK AND WE'RE AHEAD OF OURSELVES ON TRANSPORTATION WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION AND AN OPPORTUNITY WITH MONEY IN HAND. BUT I THINK I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT GROWING TOO MUCH FURTHER WITH THAT UNTIL WE WE REALLY KNOW AT LEAST HAVE A BROAD STROKE PICTURE OF OF WHAT WE THINK AT LEAST AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND THE COMMERCIAL OR VILLAGE CENTER HOW HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THEM BECAUSE AGAIN TRAFFIC ENGINEERS

PLAN ROADS AND BRIDGES. >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PLANNING A COMMUNITY FOR ITS LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN IN MY VIEW BY ROADS.

IT SHOULD BE DRIVEN BY A PROCESS LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A TIME FRAME THAT MONEY WAS VOTED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS. SO THAT IS FOR ME A REASON THAT WE WOULD ACCELERATE AS FAST AS WE CAN MAKE THE THE THE THE SKETCH OF THE PLAN SO THAT FAR THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING. THEY THEY CAN LET L OVERLAY THEIR PLAN WITH AT LEAST A SKETCH OF WHAT DESIGN IT WOULD LOOK LIKE SPECIFICALLY WITH A VILLAGE CENTER BECAUSE ROADS LEAD TO A CENTER AND TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ARE GENERATED BY CENTERS AND I MIGHT ADD THAT SIMILAR TRAFFIC STUDY ADDRESS TWENTY FIVE YEAR GROWTH ITS MAIN FOCUS WAS TO ALLEVIATE THE CONGESTION AT THE CROSSROADS BY PUBLIX AND HANDLE THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC BECAUSE AREA ENROLLMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHITEHALL AND SOME GREAT WORK

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AND MOVE IT DOWN TO MERIDIAN. >> AND I THINK THAT IF WE GET TO IT WE'RE GOING TO SEE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAY ON THAT AREA. SO THERE ARE JUST IN THIS TRAFFIC STUDY TO ACCOMMODATE CHANGES IN GROWTH AND DECREASE IN FULL USE PROJECT TRAFFIC HAVE TO DO WITH THE SEVEN SCHOOLS OUT HERE ON LADY'S ISLAND AND IT JUST CAN'T HANDLE IT COMING THROUGH THERE. THE MAIN THE MAIN FOCUS THERE TURNED LANES TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC MOVING ALL FOUR LADY'S ISLAND AND THEN YOU'RE RIGHT IT DOES GET INTO A BOTTLENECK IN PORT ROYAL. SO THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THEY NEED TO LOOK.

BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS SIX OR SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS OLD AND NOW THEY'RE REVIEWING IT TO TRY TO TRY TO ADJUST IT TO CHANGING GROWTH PATTERNS AND STUFF LIKE YOU SAID.

SO I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. WE HAD A CHANGE ENGINEERS DAIRIES IN CHARGE AND WE JUST HAVEN'T HEARD FROM BECAUSE I THINK YOU JUST TOOK OUT TOO LONG. OK. THANK YOU, ALAN.

THAT HELPS. >> I MEAN I AGREE THAT THE INSTABILITY FOCUSED ON THAT INTERCEPT THE INTERSECTIONS AND RELIEVE TRAFFIC. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTIONS ACCIDENT RATE VERSUS THE INTERSECTIONS ACCIDENT RATE AT THE FOOT OF THE MCTEER BRIDGE IN PORT ROYAL AND AROUND AT SAVANNA HOLLOWAY IN PARIS ON THE GATEWAY ALL THE CARS TRYING TO MOVE TO GET THE TRAFFIC IS IMPORTANT.

>> PUBLIC SAFETY IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AND THE ACCIDENT RATES AT THESE TWO LOCATIONS ARE GOING UP CONSTANTLY AND I WOULD SAY SECOND SECOND APART ROYAL WHICH I THINK IS IS THE PRIMARY IS WE HAVE THE ISSUE OF THE WORDS BRIDGE AND CARTER ET STRAIGHT ON OUR SIDE.

>> IT'S NOT AS BAD IT'S NOT AS DANGEROUS AT THE MOMENT BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A PRINCIPAL ISSUE IN THIS CITY. BUT AGAIN, OIL IS IN MY VIEW 12 YEARS BEEN SHORTENED IN TERMS OF ITS INPUT ON THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPOSED UPON THEM WITHOUT THEM BEING ADEQUATELY AT THE TABLE. JOE, OVER A YEAR AGO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PRIORITY OF THE STATIC RECORD TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, THE INTERSECTION AT THE FOOT OF THE MOTOR BRIDGE WITH THE RIGHT TURN LANE WAS ON THE PRIORITY TO LIST AND I AND I ADVOCATED AT THE TIME THAT IT

BE MOVED TO A PRIORITY ONE LIST. >> BUT I DON'T RECALL WHETHER IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE SALES TAX MONEY OR NOT. I'M GOING TO ASK ROB SOMEBODY JUMP IN. BUT MY RECOLLECTION IS IT WAS NO FUNDING FOR THAT SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. IT'S ON TO AND WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE MONEY LATER ON.

>> MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT. IT WAS NOT INCLUDED. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

>> ONCE AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM OVER THERE BUT WE CAN'T GET THE CARDS THERE SAFELY AT THIS POINT. WE CANNOT GET THEM SAFELY.

YOU CAN GET PEDESTRIANS TO THE BRIDGE SAFELY WHICH THAT BRIDGE HAS BECOME ONE OF THE LARGEST WALKING ATTRACTIONS IN THE AREA. PEOPLE LOVE TO WALK THAT BRIDGE AND WE JUST GOT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY. WE GOT IT.

I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ON LINE DOWN BUT WE CANNOT KEEP IGNORING THE THOROUGHFARE TO GET TO LADY'S ISLAND. HIGHWAY 21 WAS MADE THROUGH THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM THE TOWN OF PORT RAUL.

THE CITY BEAUFORT LOST U.S. HIGHWAY 21. IT GOT MOVED INTO PORT ROYAL WITH NO INPUT AND THAT IS NOW AN THOROUGHFARE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT. YEAH. AND IF I IF I MIGHT SUGGEST ONE OF THE ONE THE QUICKEST WAYS FOR US TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE IMPACT STUDY UPDATE. BUT MAYOR TO BE YOU KNOW IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU AND I AND THE CITY MANAGER FOR DOWN PORT ROYAL TO LOOK AT THAT

AND INCLUDE MONEY IN THE. >> AND THE IMPACT THE STUDY CURRENTLY.

FOR US TO AT LEAST STUDY THAT INTERSECTION. I DO NOT KNOW IF THE TOWN OF ROY PERSON WILL PRESENTED THAT AS A PART OF THE IMPACT STUDY BUT NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT SINCE WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THAT UPDATE AND WE COULD USE IMPACT THE MONEY TO TRANSLATION IMPACT THE MONEY IF ALL OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE IN AGREEMENT WHETHER TO FORCE TO TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THERE AND GO AHEAD AND GET THAT ON OUR RADAR FOR THE

NEXT FIVE, SEVEN YEARS TO CORRECT THAT SITUATION. >> I MEAN ABSOLUTELY WE AGREE WE HAVE PRESENTED AND ASKED FOR MONEY TO STUDY AND FIX THIS PROBLEM EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT'S COME UP 12 YEARS BACK FROM WHEN THE ORIGINAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SO THIS IS A NEW WAY TO DO IT. LET'S DO IT. WE JUST NEED TO GET IT MOVING.

I JUST I HOLD THIS CONVERSATION UP. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE

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DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT. >> AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDER ROADS AND THE LIKE ISLAND ARE AREN'T AS IMPORTANT IN MY MIND TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN AS YOU KNOW THE DESIGN OF THE LAND USES AND THE TRANSPORTATION ON THE ISLAND.

SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT POINT. WE DO HAVE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW SINCE WE'RE DOING THE STUDY. IT WOULD NOT BE THAT IN MY MIND THAT COMPLICATED AT THAT PROJECT. I'LL LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION LIST THAT WAS IN THOSE PROJECTS AND REACH OUT TO YOU AND TO VAN AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN NOT COORDINATE THAT A LITTLE BIT FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD WE GO TO THE CTC

COMMITTEE AND ASK FOR THE MONEY . >> I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING THAT'S NOT FUNNY. THEY ARE GOING TO THE THERE WAS AN ASSESSMENT DONE I THINK JERRY ASHMORE AND I PROBABLY RECALL THIS CONVERSATION THERE WAS AN ESTIMATE DONE FOR A STUDY AT THAT INTERSECTION AND I. IT EXISTS SOMEWHERE IN PUBLIC WORKS AT THE COUNTY. THAT'S ALL I KNOW. JERRY, DO YOU REMEMBER THOUGH?

>> I DON'T REMEMBER IT BUT WE WILL FIND IT AND SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO UPDATE IT.

YES, ALICE, I DO REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SOME TIME.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO BACK TO OUR VILLAGE MASTERPLAN.

YOU GOT ME BACK, JOE. YOU GOT ME BACK THE NEXT STEPS. >> WELL, IF I MAY SUGGEST THAT THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE DAVE AND OTHERS TO ME AND ROB TO ME TO SEE WHAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TRYING TO GET SOME CRISIS MAP AND BRING IT BACK BEFORE YOU ALL TO REVIEW A PROPOSAL AND THEN WE'LL GO OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND THE FUNDING FOR IT.

>> AND I WOULD RECORD YOU KNOW, HERE ARE MY TIMEFRAME WOULD BE FOR US TO THAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU ON THEIR NEXT MEETING. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. ERIC.

DAVID DAVID, GET WITH THAT, SIR. >> YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND REGENERATE THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAD TO INITIALLY GO ABOUT TRYING TO GET THE FUNDING SO

THAT YOU CAN USE THAT AS A BASE? >> YEAH.

ROB ROB PROBABLY STILL HAS THAT INFORMATION. SO REAL REGROUP AND IF WE NEED ANYTHING FROM YOU. CHAIRMAN TOLD WE WILL REACH OUT TO YOU AND GET THAT FROM YOU.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND RE SEND US I'LL BE GREAT NOW. ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.

AND BE GLAD TO INTERACT WITH HIM IF YOU'D LIKE. YEAH WELL WE'LL KEEP WE'LL KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP MOVING FORWARD ON BEFORE WE COME BACK BEFORE OKATIE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE GOING IN AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA

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ROB, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE HANDLING OF A REAL QUICK PRESENTATION?

>> I'LL JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES. I JUST GIVE YOU KNOW THAT THE STATUS OF THE PLAN DESPAIR WITH ME FOR ONE SECOND HERE AND YOU YOU'LL SEE THAT.

YEAH, I SEE IT. >> OK, SO I MEAN I THINK AS WE LEFT THE LAST AND IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS SPENT YOU KNOW, AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING OF THIS IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE YOU WERE JUST KICKING OFF THE PROCESS CONFERENCE PLANNED AND WE WERE GETTING READY TO HAVE TWO WORKSHOPS ONE NORTH AND ONE SENSE OF THE BROAD AND THEN COVERED 19 HIT SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES AND AND ALSO WORKING IN A PUBLIC VIRTUALLY IN THIS TIME FRAME.

>> AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE. ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE AWARE WE'VE ENGAGED THE SIGN WORKSHOPS AND ARE THE ONES WHO ARE PLAYING.

THEY'RE ALSO DEVELOPING THE PLAN FOR PORT ROYAL. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A QUARTER WITH THE TACTICAL TO TO KIND OF SHARE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THAT CAN BE BUILT AND JOINTLY AND A CONSISTENCY OF APPROACH.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH DESIGN WORK AND EVERYTHING THAT CAME IN THE SPIRIT IN THAT IS THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS STUFF IT'S GOING TO PLAN WHICH IS THE FRAMEWORK FOR WHICH ONE SECOND

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>> IT'S A TOOL THAT WE USE TO KIND OF HELP TRY DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE PUT TO THAT COMMITTEE. AND SO I THINK IF THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE LOOK AT THOSE TWO PROGRAMS, WE LOOK AT THE CONFERENCE OF PLANNED AND THE INPUT THE ROOM CRITICAL LANDS AS TWO SEPARATE THINGS REALLY VERY INTERPOLATED.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT PRESERVING NATURAL RESOURCES AND CULTURAL RESOURCES,

AGRICULTURAL LAND. >> THERE'S A NUMBER OF TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX THAT WE USE TO DO THAT ROOM CRITICAL LANDS. IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE TOOLS AND IT'S IT'S SORT OF LIKE A SILVER BULLET. IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE AND IT'S THE ONE YOU USE FOR FOUR FOR THOSE MOST PRECIOUS PROPERTIES THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESERVE FOR THE FUTURE. BUT WE ALSO HAVE ZONING WE HAVE LOW DENSITY ZONING, WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S YOU KNOW, OUR CONSULTANTS REALLY LOOKED AT INTEGRATING THOSE TWO WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD.

I'M GOING TO JUST GIVE YOU A REAL BRIEF WHIRLWIND OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

ALL RIGHT. AND ADVANCE THE SLIDE HERE. OKAY.

SO WE'RE YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW WHERE WE BEGIN PROCESS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE HAVE HAD THREE PUBLIC WORKSHOP ONE IN PERSON IN THE MARKET IN MARCH AND WE'VE HAD TWO OF ONLINE WORKSHOPS IN AUGUST. WE HAD TWO SESSIONS WHERE WE HAD AN ONLINE WORKSHOP, AN IN-STORE FOR THE GREEN PRINTER PRESERVING OPEN SPACE AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 17TH WE HAD ONE LOOKING GROWTH MANAGEMENT IN ECONOMICS WHICH IS WHERE WERE GO TO MEETING WITH WITH SURVEYS DURING THE PROCESS BUT DO SURVEYS ACTIVE YOU CAN ACCESS THEM ONLINE AND GIVE YOU THE LINK TO THAT AT THE END IF YOU'VE TAKEN THE SURVEY OR YOU

WANT TO YOU KNOW, PROMOTE IT. >> SO WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW THE FALL IN THE TIME WE'RE FORMULATING ALL THIS INFORMATION. THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE IS TO HAVE A DRAFT PLAN READY IN THE WINTER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE EVALUATING THIS POINT AND SO IT'S KIND OF A MOVING TARGET. IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE HAD GREAT LIMITATIONS ON HAVING IN-PERSON WORKSHOPS TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TIMELINE TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A LAST WE WANT TO DO IS UP TO PRINCE A PLAN AND THEN YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS PERCEPTION THAT IF YOU DID NOT EMBEDDED WITH THE PUBLIC QUICKLY AND THAT'S THAT THAT'S A SITUATION WE WANT TO AVOID. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE EVALUATING THE TIMELINE AND FIGURING OUT HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

JUST A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW. >> WE HAD A GREEN PRINT WORKSHOP AND SURVEY THIS IS LOOKING AT YOU KNOW AND I ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT WITH THIS THEN IN THE PAST TIMES WE'VE HAD THE GREEN PRINT PLAN IS THIS TIME WE STARTED WITH WHAT TYPES OF NATURAL RESOURCES THAT THE PUBLIC IS INTERESTED IN PRESERVING AND I THINK THAT THAT GETS US AWAY FROM LOOKING AT A MAP AND ONE AREA OF INTEREST WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT WHAT RESOURCES WE WANT TO

PRESERVE AND THEN THE MAPPING EXERCISE IS SECONDARY TO THAT. >> IT'S MORE LIKE ONCE YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO PRESERVE THEN WHERE IN THIS LAND OR THE KEY AREAS THAT WE

WANT TO PRESERVE. >> WE HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS WORKSHOP.

TYPES OF LANDS YOU KNOW, LAND THAT PRESERVES A WATER QUALITY CRISP CRITICAL HABITAT AREAS, FLOODPLAIN PROTECTION, PRESERVING OPEN SPACE TRAILS AND SCENIC VIEWS.

SORT OF THE PLAN THE TOP TIER OF THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO.

PRESERVE. AND WHEN WE LOOKED AT A MAPPING EXERCISE, THE PORTAL WOULD KIND OF DIVIDE UP THE COUNTY MORE INTO BROAD WATERSHED RATHER THAN LOOKING AT OUR PLANNING REGIONS AND THE PORT ROYAL SOUND WATERSHED AND THE SEA ISLANDS ROSE TO THE SURFACE.

IS THIS AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE MOST EFFORT TO CONSERVATION TO SOME OTHER THINGS? YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A REALLY WIDE TO LOOK AT LIMITING DEVELOPMENT IN 100 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN AND LOOKING AT THOSE AREAS IMPACTED BY SEA.

>> RIGHT. CLEARLY IN LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF MARSH MIGRATION

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WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADEQUATELY PLANNING FOR THAT AND PRESERVATION IS OBVIOUSLY A TOOL THAT WE COULD USE FOR THAT . SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW. THIS SURVEY IS STILL ACTIVE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS SHOULD BE OF NO

SURPRISE. >> WE HAVE A VERY OLDER AND MUCH MORE CAUCASIAN CROSS CROSS-SECTION OF THE PEOPLE RESPONDENTS WHO ARE REALLY ABOUT DIVERSITY THAT WE CAN PUT INTO THIS THIS WORK. AND I'M GOING TO JUST MOVE ON REAL QUICK.

WE ALSO HAVE A GROWTH CHOP AND I THINK THAT THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE IT'S REALLY TAKEN A LOOK WHERE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT CAN OCCUR. AND ONE OF THE BIG FINDINGS OF THIS IS THE PLANNED A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IN EXISTING PUTIN'S SUBDIVIDE.

IT'S BOTH IN AN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY IN CITIES AND THAT THERE'S REALLY ENOUGH CAPACITY

JUST IN APPROVED DEVELOPMENT TO SHOULDER FUTURE GROWTH. >> SO WHEN WE LOOK AT GROW IN THE FUTURE WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A LOT OF PRESSURE TO OPEN UP RURAL LANDS AT THIS POINT.

>> A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF CAPACITY CURRENTLY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS WE'D HAVE LANDED ZONES TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE GROWTH.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS IS I DON'T BELIEVE AT THIS POINT LOOKING AT ANY HUGE LARGE CHANGE TO OUR OVERALL GROWTH MANAGEMENT FRAMEWORK WHICH I THINK IS GOOD

NEWS . >> I THINK THAT WE'VE WE STILL HAVE ENOUGH LAND WITHIN THOSE AREAS TO SHOULDER FUTURE GROWTH . AS I MENTIONED THESE SURVEYS

ARE STILL ACTIVE. >> WE HAVE A PROJECT WEB SITE ENVISION FOR COUNTY DOT COM.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE SURVEYS OR YOU WANT TO KNOW THIS WILL BE ACTIVE TECHNICALLY UNTIL THE END OF THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER I THINK OCTOBER 9TH AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SET IN STONE DATE BUT RIGHT NOW THAT THAT'S THE DEADLINE WE GET THAT.

>> THAT'S LIKE THE PERCENT QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE BILL EXTENDING THE DEADLINE TOWARD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YES. THANK YOU.

PLEASE EXECUTE THIS LINE. >> TECHNICALLY WE ARE, YOU KNOW, FACING THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL READ ALL OF THE CREDIT. IS THIS CLASS AT WE ARE GIVEN TIME EACH STEP TO ENTER CONFIDENCE A PLAN B FOR COUNTY STUDENTS THEIR EXISTING PLAN IN JANUARY OF 2011 IS PASSED OR I THINK IT'S GOING TO THE GOVERNOR NOW IS PAST THE LEGISLATURE THEN IT EXTENDS HEADING HERE. SO I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

IT KEEPS US A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM ESPECIALLY GIVEN A QUICK CRITIQUE IN PERSON AND WILCOX

INTO THIS PROCESS. >> THANK YOU, ROB. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE

BOARD, ROB? >> THANKS FOR THE UPDATE AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE STUDIES HAVE REVEALED THAT WE'VE GOTTEN MORE THAN ENOUGH AREAS TO GROW ACROSS THE

COUNTY. >> BUT IN THIS IT GETS SORT OF AREA SPECIFIC WHERE IT MIGHT ACTUALLY SAY THAT WE HAVE TOO TOO MUCH DENSITY ALLOWED IN CERTAIN AREAS AND THAT FROM A GROWTH MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT INSTEAD OF LEAVING IT ALONE THERE TO ACTUALLY BE SORT OF AN

AGGRESSIVE PUSH TO REDUCE THOSE DENSITIES. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR CONSULTANTS BECAUSE THEY STARTED LOOKING AT CONSTRAINED GROWTH, LOOKING AT THE CRANE LITTLE LONG AS HEIDRICK SO IT AND HAVING DONE THAT EXERCISE THEY GREATLY REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT IS CRYING FOR FUTURE GROWTH ESPECIALLY IF

WE'RE TRYING TO DESCRIPTIVE DEVELOPMENT LIVE ON THERE. >> SO THAT WAS THE KIND OF

BALANCED EACH OTHER OUT. >> WE DIDN'T ONLY GET A OVERWHELMING MESSAGE THAT THERE WERE AREAS THAT ON THE BACK I STILL THINK THAT THAT QUESTION IS OKAY.

>> I MEAN YOU KNOW, WE PLAY CIVILLY SIDE AND WE LEARN THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE TRACK LOST WITH THOSE BOUNDARIES. YEAH. THANK YOU.

I MEAN I THINK IT SOUNDS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF YOU SIX THOUSAND PLUS RESIDENTIAL UNITS THERE TODAY. AND I THINK WE WERE ALL A LITTLE SURPRISED ONCE WE SAT

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RIGHT. IF YOU THINK ABOUT W NEWER THAN DOUBLING THE CAPACITY OF RESIDENTIAL ON THE ISLAND WHERE WE'RE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL AND

TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS THANK YOU. >> YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH

[10. BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN]

THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN INFORMATION? >> YES.

AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE NOAH KREBS AND OUR STAFF HAS A PRESENTATION BUT THIS IS ANOTHER REGIONAL EFFORT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON INVOLVING BOTH THE COUNTY AND MUNICIPALITIES ALONG WITH ADVOCATES AND ALSO COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS LAST WHICH I THOUGHT WAS EXCITING. I THINK THAT WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, DUE TO THE SUCCESS OF THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL, THE PATHWAY SOUTH OF THE YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD FRAMEWORK TO DEVELOP A GOOD BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN. BUT I'M GOING TO LET YOU KNOW A INTRODUCED NOTE. SO OUR LONG RANGE PLAN IN THE P4 COUNTY PART DEPARTMENT THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME SPEAK. I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A BRIEF LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR LONGER I GUESS AT THIS POINT. LET ME FIGURE OUT MY SCREEN SHARING RIGHT. I HAVE YOU ALL ON THE PROPERTY AND IT'S COMING.

>> I SEE IT. LOOK. GOT IT.

OK. AS ROB SAID, THIS IS INVOLVING MULTIPLE OF DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES ORGANIZATIONS AND WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.

>> WE ESTABLISHED OUR MISSION TO IDENTIFY ROUTES, RECOMMEND FACILITY TYPES AND SUGGEST POLICIES TO MAKE WALKING AND BIKING MORE ACCESSIBLE IN THE COUNTY.

AND WITH THAT THREE MAIN OBJECTIVES THE FIRST TO MAKE CONNECTIONS FOR PEOPLE AND ALSO TO ESTABLISH WALKING AND BIKING AS ROUTINE, SAFE AND EQUITABLE OPTIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION AND

RECREATION. >> A PLAN FOR BIKES AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.

>> I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY FOR YOU, BUT I THINK THE MAIN POINT HERE IS THAT THERE ARE A TON OF DIFFERENT BENEFITS. YOU KNOW EVERYTHING FROM PUBLIC HEALTH TO RECREATION, TRAFFIC REDUCTION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF REASONS TO PLACE PRIORITY ON DEVELOPING CONTENT FACILITIES.

AGAIN, THE TASK FORCE MEMBERSHIP IS A REALLY ROBUST GROUP.

WE WANTED A BREADTH OF EXPERTISE. SO WE TAPPED INTO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT INTERESTS. THE MUNICIPAL IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

L COG AND THEN ADVOCACY GROUPS SUCH AS THE EAST COAST GREENWAY FRIENDS SPANISH MOSS TRAIL AND COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALS AND IN COMMUNITY.

>> SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU JUST YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT THE EXISTING PATHWAY NETWORK LOOKS LIKE.

THIS IS JUST MULTI USE PATHWAYS. SO WE'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT SEEING SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES THAT DO MAKE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN SOME OF THESE PATHWAYS.

BUT BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE IS A GREAT START TO A NETWORK AS ROB ALLUDED TO.

LUDDEN HAD YOU KNOW, HAS A PRETTY ROBUST NETWORK BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND BUCK PARKWAY AND THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL MORE RECENTLY HAVE HAVE REALLY STARTED TO BUILD THAT OUT ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND SO OUR GROUP, YOU KNOW, USED THIS MAP AND MAPS OF OTHER FACILITIES TO START ANALYZING WHAT OUR MOST URGENT NEEDS WOULD BE IN THE PATHWAY NETWORK. AND SO JUST A QUICK LOOK AT THE COMPONENTS OF HOW THE PROCESS HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE TASK FORCE EXPERTISE AND COORDINATING WHAT WE ARE DOING CURRENTLY WITH EXISTING PLANS BOTH COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL, WE REALIZE THAT THE OBVIOUS NEXT STEP WAS TO GET PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT GOING AND SOLVE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT WE ROLLED OUT IN JULY OF THIS YEAR. IT WAS LIVE FOR THE FULL MONTH OF JULY. AND OVER THAT TIME WE RECEIVED A REALLY LARGE AMOUNT OF

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I WILL I WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS. THE MAIN FOCUS HERE IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED RESPONDENTS TO DO WAS IDENTIFY WHAT TYPE OF CYCLIST THEY ARE RANGE FROM NO WAY, NO HOW. I'LL NEVER BIKE TO I'M A FEARLESS AND BRAVE BIKER WHO WOULD TAKE ON FIFTY FIVE MILE PER HOUR TRAFFIC AND THE HOTSPOT THERE IS THE INTERESTED BUT CONCERNED GROUP THAT IS GENERALLY RECOGNIZED AS THE GROUP THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO CHANGE YOU KNOW, IF THEY FELT SAFE AND THEY FELT LIKE THERE WAS A NETWORK AND THERE WAS PROPER FACILITIES THAT THEY WOULD BIKE OR THEY WOULD WALK MORE FREQUENTLY.

SO THAT'S THE GROUP WE WANT TO FOCUS ON. AND OUT OF THE ABOUT EIGHTEEN HUNDRED RESPONSES TO THAT QUESTION, ALMOST HALF OF THE RESPONDENTS CHOSE THAT THAT TYPE. A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE SURVEY.

THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE PUT A LOT OF STORE IN WANTING THEIR PATHWAYS SEPARATED FROM THE ROAD THEY FEEL SAFER WHEN THERE'S A SEPARATION WHETHER IT BE PHYSICAL OR YOU KNOW, JUST A GRASS A GRASS STRIP, LOWER SPEED ROADS NEED TO BE THE FOCUS FOR THOSE THINGS AND PEOPLE ARE ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THEY'RE SAFE SIGNALS CROSSINGS AND WE'RE FINDING TO HELP THEM KNOW WHERE THEY CAN GET TO ON THE TRAILS

THAT WE'RE PROVIDING FOR THEM. >> SO ON THE MAPPING SIDE OF THAT SURVEY WE RECEIVED A TON OF DIFFERENT PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS. THESE ARE JUST THE FOUR THAT THE FOUR MOST FREQUENTLY MENTIONED RECOMMENDATIONS. I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TWO IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND TWO IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND THEY RANGE ANYWHERE FROM THAT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT TO THINGS THAT DO LOOK LIKE THEY CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED PRETTY EASILY IF WE IF WE PACK DOWN

THE RIGHT FUNDING. >> SO OUT OF THE INITIAL ANALYSIS DISCUSSIONS WITH TASK FORCE AND OUR SURVEY FINDINGS, WE KIND OF PINPOINTED A FEW GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WILL HELP US DETERMINE WHAT PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS AND POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS WE'D LIKE TO

PUT FORTH. >> THE TWO BIG ONES WOULD BE TO PLACE EMPHASIS ON PROJECTS THAT CONNECT PEOPLE TO THE THINGS THEY NEED TO GET TO AND DO THAT BY USING THE EXISTING NETWORK THAT ALREADY EXISTS. THE OTHER BIG ONE IS USING THE SPINE AND SPUR APPROACH.

SO USING THE MAJOR TRAILS SPANISH MOSS BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY THROUGH THE ISLAND AS A BACKBONE TO THE PATHWAY NETWORK AND BUILD OUT FROM THERE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO REACH OUT INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES AND HAVE ACCESS TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT

DESTINATIONS. >> AND SO WITH THOSE PRINCIPLES IN MIND WE STARTED TO COMPILE PROJECT RECOMMENDATIONS BOTH FROM TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS INTO A CONCEPT OF WHAT A PATHWAY NETWORK MIGHT LOOK LIKE ONCE IT'S BUILT OUT.

WE'RE STILL REFINING THIS LIST IN THIS MAP. SO THERE MIGHT BE PROJECTS ON OUR LIST THAT ARE ON THE MAP YET THEY'RE STILL BEING HASHED OUT.

THERE MIGHT BE LINES ON HERE THAT YOU WILL NOT SEE ON A FINAL CONCEPTUAL MAP.

AND THE PINKISH PURPLE LINES ARE PENNY TAX PROJECTS WHICH YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE THE DOLLARS THAT WERE VOTED ON THERE MAY NOT COVER ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THAT LIST ANYMORE. BUT ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZE ARE ON OR

ON THIS MAP CURRENTLY. >> SO THESE ARE KIND OF THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE THAT WILL COME OUT OF THIS PLAN AND A LIST OF PROJECT RECOMMENDATION IS A FUNDING STRATEGY WITH A HOST OF DIFFERENT SOURCES FEDERAL, LOCAL, PRIVATE PRIORITIZATION MATRIX WHICH WILL SEVERAL FACTORS AND FIND KIND OF FINE TUNING THE PRIORITY THAT WE PLACE ON EACH PROJECT AND AN IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY WHICH INCLUDES A DEDICATED STAFF PERSON WHOSE MAIN JOB WOULD BE TO BE WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT FACILITIES AND ESTABLISHING A

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. >> AND SO WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM HERE.

WE WILL SOON BE WORKING ON FORMULATING THE PLAN AND REFINING AND DRAFTING IT THAT WILL BE KIND OF IN A CYCLE ONGOING WITH STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT SO THAT YOU KNOW ALL ALL GROUPS ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED CAN HAVE A SAY IN HOW WE DO REFINE THE PLAN AND WE CAN ROLL IT OUT TO THEM. LET THEM GIVE US OUR FEEDBACK AND GO BACK AND WORK ON IT AGAIN. AND FROM THERE WE HOPE TO INCORPORATE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS INTO THE LATS LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN UPDATE WHICH IS SLATED FOR 2021.

CURRENTLY THAT IS GOT AN EXTENSION AND WE WILL BE PRESENTING THE PLAN TO THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTY FOR CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION AND INCORPORATION INTO THEIR OWN MUNICIPAL PLANS. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU IF YOU'LL HAVE THEM YOU KNOW AND LET ME ASK A QUICK QUESTION.

>> I LOOK AT YOUR TASK FORCE THERE AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY REFERENCE TO THE SUB KIND OF DEAL BEING A PART OF IT. NOT THAT WE IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE IT IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE ARE BUILDING A LOT OF ROADS AND BRIDGES AND ACCELERATE AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT ALBERT IRELAND WAS ONE THAT I WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE IS NO BIKE PATHWAY COMING THROUGH THERE. SO I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.

SO IF THEY ARE NOT A PART OF IT, I SURE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD INVITE THEM TO BE A PART OF YOUR TASK FORCE. THANK YOU. YEAH.

>> I THINK WE WE DID DISCUSS BRINGING IN A CDO TEAM PERSON IN TO THE TABLE WITH THE AND I CAN SAY ONE OF OUR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS IS GOING TO BE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING WITH DOTY IN PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT NEW STREETS OR IMPROVEMENTS OR DO INCLUDE THE FACILITIES THAT WE WANT ON THOSE ROADS.

>> YEAH, I KNOW AT THE LAST SO LOCAL MEETING THEY IDENTIFIED PATHWAYS AS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE

THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE UP THE NEXT MEETING NEXT MONTH. >> AND OF SIGNIFICANCE THERE IS BRINGING IN THE WATERLINE COUNTY JASPER HARDY BILL TO THE SOUTHERN REGIONAL AREA FOR

CONSIDERATION OF PATHWAYS. >> YEAH. >> WE ARE PRESENTING WE'RE A WE'RE GIVING THIS PRESENTATION TO THE LATS POLICY COMMITTEE NEXT FRIDAY.

AND SO LOKO KIND OF REALIZED, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THE OVERLAP OF MEMBERSHIP BETWEEN THOSE TWO GROUPS THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE WAS INTEREST IN PRESENTING TO BOTH THE LARGE POLICY COMMITTEE AND SO LOCO OR IF THEY WOULD RATHER DO, YOU KNOW, UPDATES ON PROJECTS PENDING TAX PROJECTS AND YOU KNOW, THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND BRIDGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT I THINK TOM LENNOX IDENTIFIED IT AS AN ISSUE WITH THE AGREEMENT.

>> SO LOCAL BOARD THE NEXT MEETING IN NOVEMBER COULD BE WRONG UNLESS YOU RECALL.

OH, I DON'T I'M SORRY I DON'T RECALL. BUT I THINK THEY DID PLAN ON PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA. WE WOULD ROB AND I JUST WEREN'T SURE IF THIS SPECIFIC PROCESS

WAS SOMETHING THEY WANTED AN UPDATE ORDER OR NOT. >> I HAD A COMMENT OF THE CROSSING FROM WEST FUND CROSS TO DOWNTOWN PORT ROYAL ALTHOUGH THE STUDIES BEING DONE NOW WITH HOSPITALITY TAX MONEY H H TAX RATE TAX I DON'T REMEMBER. I REMEMBER PROBABLY.

SO I WAS SURPRISED THAT WASN'T ON ONE OF THE PRIORITIES WAS IT MENTIONED AT ALL? WAS THAT ONE KIND OF CONSIDERED LIKE IT'S COMING ANYWAY OR THE OTHER? THERE IS SOME ENGINEERING IN THE WORKS WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL AND COORDINATING WITH COUNTY ENGINEERING I BELIEVE. RIGHT.

PROCEDURES YOU GET A TAX MONEY TO DO THAT. >> SO I JUST WAS SURPRISED IT WASN'T ON THE TOP FOR I GUESS I THOUGHT IT WAS NOW THAT IT WAS I THINK YOU HAD TO COME DOWNTOWN TO INFER FROM FROM SPANISH HISTORY OF THE DOWNTOWN PORT NOT THAT WENT ON THE ON

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HAS TALKED ABOUT IT. >> I'LL HAVE TO TALK TO DEAN MOSS AND SEE IF THAT'S

SOMETHING THAT HE FEELS NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED ON THIS LIST. >> WELL, I MEAN IT IS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT BUT IT MAY BE THAT WE'RE ALREADY STARTED DOWN THAT ROAD PASS SO TO SPEAK.

SO IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THINGS INITIATED AND NOW SAY I AGREE AND MAYBE THE MAP NEEDS TO HAVE SOME DATE OF IN WORKS.

RIGHT. AND WORK AND PEOPLE TO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND AND THAT MAY BE THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT. THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION. YEAH.

I MEAN IT'S IT'S SO FAR IN THE WORKS AT THIS POINT THAT WE JUST NEED TO PLAN SECTIONS.

OKAY. YEAH I WOULD BE KIND OF CLOSE THE LOOP ON.

THANK YOU. >> THANKS. >> THANK YOU KNOW ANY OTHER

COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? >> OK. >> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM NECESSARY FIGHT AND PRIORITIZATION ITEMS THAT WHEN WE HAD LEFT LAST TIME WE HAD COME UP WITH ABOUT I THINK 12 OR 13 DIFFERENT ITEMS. AND IF YOU CHECK HERE ACTION ITEMS FROM THE MINUTES THERE ENUMERATED AND THERE WERE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL CHAMPIONS TO SOME OF THOSE I THINK WE'VE COVERED A NUMBER OF THOSE ALREADY IN THE MEETING AND AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN MOVING FORWARD.

SO HOW WOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO TAKE THESE? DO YOU WANT TO JUST ONE RUN DOWN THROUGH ITEM BY ITEM AND GET ANY UPDATE OR IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER THAT HASN'T VOLUNTEERED TO CHAMPION ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD DO THAT ?

>> MR. CHAIRMAN MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ASK ONE THING BEFORE YOU MOVE ON? AND I MAY HAVE JUST MISSED IT. BUT AS ALEX ASKS RIGHTLY SO ABOUT THE CROSSING RIBAUT ROAD AND PORT ROYAL. WHERE WE STAND WITH WITH CONNECTED THE LONG TERM AGREEMENT TO SELECT THE WHAT YOU MAKE YOUR BRIDGES ON LADY'S ISLAND THIS ALARMS GOING OFF IN

LONDON. >> I KEEP HEARING SOMEBODY ALARM GOING OFF.

>> I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE. WAS THAT A QUESTION DIRECTED TO ME OR SOMEBODY FROM THE BOARD? I THINK IT WOULD BE PROPERLY DIRECTED TO ROB.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS? RIGHT.

OKAY. ROB, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT?

>> YEAH, I MISHEARD THE QUESTION BECAUSE THE THE ALARM WHAT WAS A PROJECT THAT YOU

ASKED ABOUT? >> I'M SORRY. >> WHAT WAS.

I'M SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? I MISSED PART OF THAT.

OUT OF THE QUESTION WAS AS ALLIES RIGHTFULLY NOTED, YOU KNOW WHAT WHAT IS THE STATUS OF WHAT WE THINK IS ONGOING AND IMPORTANT CROSSING OF RIBAUT ROAD AND BY ROYAL.

>> I DID THAT YEAR BUT I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS. THE STATUS OF THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE WOODS AND MAKE TWO BRIDGES. YOU KNOW THE.

THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE PART CONNECT THE BRIDGE THROUGH WHITEHALL.

I CAN'T. WE'VE GOTTEN APPROVAL TO GET TO MERIDIAN ROAD WHICH WE DON'T RECOGNIZE. THIS IS A BARE I THINK IT IS IN THE SALES TAX FOUNDATION.

I WAS WONDERING WHERE THAT IS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I MEAN MERIDIAN ROAD IS WHAT WE SEE PRIORITIZED FORCING SALES TAX PROJECTS. SO WE'RE TREATING IT AS A COMMITTED PROJECT. YOU KNOW, ALREADY IN THE WORKS EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASE IN ADDITION TO THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE FISCAL OR FRINGE AND WHAT IS LEFT THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND WE TREAT THE EVIDENCE TO A COMMITTED PROJECT. IT'S KIND OF A COMPLICATED AND

I GUESS ANYTHING THAT'S IT. >> WE ASKED THE CITY OF STUFF DAVID STOCKMAN FOR PRIORITIES

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WELL. >> SO CERTAINLY THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WILL WE'LL REFINE THAT THAT MAP AND MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL IN THERE. I JUST I THINK LIKE ALICE MAY BE GOOD AT A CATEGORY OF PROJECTS THAT THAT ARE APPROVED AND MOVING FORWARD.

>> YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S ALL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IF THE BOARD WISHES TO

[11. PRIORITIZED LIST OF ITEMS FOR THE NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY REGIONAL PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS IN 2020 ‐ 2021]

>> THE FIRST ITEM HAD AN ATLAS. YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE THAT ON THAT REVIEW OF THE NURKIC

MANDATE PLAN AND RESOLUTION ON THAT AD. >> AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I THINK HE'S DONE MORE THINKING THAN I HAVE. BUT WE WE REALLY NEED TO SOME FEEDBACK FROM THIS GROUP DO. WE TALKED ABOUT DO WE WANT TO JOIN WITH SO LOCAL OR DO WE WANT TO KEEP OURSELVES SEPARATE? WE'RE BECOMING MORE AND MORE REGIONAL. YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN DISCUSS IT OR WE EDIT AGAIN OR WE CAN YOU KNOW, JUST WE JUST LIKE SOME FEEDBACK. WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING YEAH, ULTIMATELY IT JUST TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT AS THE A RECENT ADDITION TO THE COMMITTEE I WAS INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THE MANDATE THAT CREATED THIS COMMITTEE. SO I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE 86 PAGE NORTHERN REGIONAL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN DOCUMENT. SOME OF YOU WERE PART OF THAT EFFORT AND HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT EFFORT GOING FORWARD. THE DOCUMENTS CREATED SOMEWHERE BACK AROUND 2005 AND IT WAS INTENDED TO BE A 20 YEAR PLAN OR REVIEWED ONE UPDATE ON A FIVE YEAR BASIS. I HAVEN'T BEEN A PART COMMITTEE LONG ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU PROCEED AGAINST THOSE PARTICULAR OBJECTIVES AND GOALS .

BUT MY OBSERVATION PARTICULARLY IN TODAY'S MEETING IS THAT WE WILL EMBRACE THE IDEA OF REGIONALISM AND COOPERATION AS WE GROW IN POPULATION AND WE REACH SATURATION IN OUR TRANSPORTATION. YOU SHOULD DISCUSS THIS MORNING AND ISSUES WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING. SO I'M VERY MUCH AWARE THAT THIS THE COMMITTEE CREATED TO BE THE OVERSIGHT FOR THE PLAN IS IN IS OPERATING EFFECTIVELY. I'VE BEEN TOLD BY SOME OF YOU THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH FUNDS INFLOWS. I WOULD SAY IF ANYTHING YOU WANT TO REINFORCE YOUR RESOLVE TO STRENGTHEN THE REGIONAL COOPERATION THAT YOU'VE EVIDENCE AND THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY AS WE'VE SEEN AND CONTINUE TO GROW.

>> THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO OFFERING DELEGATE ABILITY FROM YOU.

YOU'RE ON MUTE. OKAY. I THINK SHARING INFORMATION AND PERHAPS HAVING REPRESENTED DON'T MEET EACH OTHER'S MEETINGS OR THINGS IMPORTANT FROM OUR REGIONAL POINT OF VIEW . BUT I THINK THAT WE WE ARE WELL ESTABLISHED WITH A PLAN. WE ARE CREATED AS A FORMAL INSTITUTION WITH A HISTORY AND THEN ISSUES. RESOURCES UNFORTUNATELY DIVIDED BY THE RIVER BUT EVEN IF THERE WAS IN THE RIVER RESOURCES THE ISSUES ARE DIFFERENT. AND TO WE WE HAVE LEARNED IN IN THE METROPOLITAN QUINTIN COMMISSION THAT WELL YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT DECISIONS ARE MADE ON A PER OKATIE BASIS AND ANOTHER LAYER TO THIS. IT JUST PUTS ANOTHER GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE IN INDIRECT STAKEHOLDERS BUT NOT DIRECTLY THEIR STAKEHOLDERS AND COULD HAGERSTOWN. SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE AS A FIRST STEP THIS IT REALLY WOULD BE THAT PERHAPS THE CHAIRMAN ASSIGN ONE TO PEOPLE OR IT MAY JUST BE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIT IN ON THE LOCAL AND INVITE THEM TO HAVE SOMEONE SIT ON US.

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>> OUR CHAIRMAN APPOINTED ME TO DO THAT. YEAH BUT YOU'RE RIGHT WE NEED SOMEONE FROM A LOT OF CO TO COME TO OURS TOO. IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> EVEN THOUGH WE'VE STRUGGLED TO GET THIS THING GOING AND THERE WAS OPPOSITION FROM SOUTH OF THE GROWING RIVER TO DOING THIS BECAUSE OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT THEY COULD NAME. RIGHT. AS TO WHAT WE WOULD HAVE ON THEM IT TURNS OUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE WAS A GOOD ONE BECAUSE I THINK WE SERVED AS A MODEL FOR THE WAY WE COULD WORK TOGETHER BUT I THINK WE'RE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF MATURITY AND I THINK THAT THE GEOGRAPHY, THE FINANCES AND ARE STILL NOT AT A LEVEL PAR.

SO I THINK I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY COMMUNICATION BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN LEARN FROM THEM AND BUY THEM FROM US. BUT IN TERMS OF ANY KIND OF AFFILIATION, FORMAL AFFILIATION

,I THINK IT'S PREMATURE FOR US AND I I I DO AGREE. >> I JUST WANT TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS HAD. NOW GMAC GOES TO THEIRS TO SO YEAH.

AND THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE SO LOKO DOESN'T HAVE. WE HAVE MORE AND MORE POWER.

I GUESS THIS ALL RIGHT. WORK AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BUT THEY THEY DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE AND WE DO. SO YEAH WE'RE DIFFERENT. YEAH, I AGREE.

>> I REALLY I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD IS MAYBE DO A ONE OR TWO MEETINGS A YEAR JOINTLY MEETING WE COULD DO EXCHANGE.

HERE'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON DOING THE SAME WITH MONEY. IT'S KIND OF YOU TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF YOU KNOW, START A CONNECTION BUT YET KEEP IT SEPARATE.

GOOD. WELL WHY DON'T I BRING THOSE TWO ISSUES TO SO LOCAL MAYBE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE MAJOR WILLIAMS AND SEE IF THERE WAS BE INTERESTED IN SENDING A REPRESENTATIVE OR COURAGE IN TO DO THAT AND A PERIODIC MEETING SOME AN ANNUAL BASIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND REPORT OUT TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? GOT YA. I THINK THOSE ARE VERY GOOD IDEAS. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT LADIES IRELAND PLAN.

WITH STEPHEN MURRAY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED?

>> I DON'T I THINK I THINK ALAN AND MIKE AND THE COMMITTEE IS DOING A NICE JOB.

OBVIOUSLY KOBE HAS DELAYED ALL OF US AND OUR OUR PROCESSES BUT I THINK WE'RE STARTING TO GET OUR MOMENTUM AGAIN. I THINK THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE LADIES ISLAND COMMUNITY PRESERVATION COMMITTEE KIND OF HOW TO HELP GET THEM BACK MOVING.

BUT OVERALL I THINK AGAIN WE DIDN'T GO IN. WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT FOLKS AROUND THE TABLE AND I HOPE WE'LL KEEP GAINING SOME STEAM OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

>> STEVE AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST FROM BOTH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS SOME OF

THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX AND JOE, YOU WERE SAID YOU WANTED TO CHAMPION THAT ONE.

YEAH. >> WE'VE SAID TOO MANY TIMES THAT WILL BE RELEASED BROUGHT A LOT OF THINGS TO A HALT AND THIS WAS THE WRONG TIME TO TRY TO MOVE A LOCAL UP AND SALES TAX ONTO OUR REFERENDUM. IT GOT FAIRLY CLOSE BUT THEN WE ALL THE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES REALIZED IT WAS JUST THE WRONG TIME TO DO IT. SO THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY AND

IT'LL COME BACK AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. >> NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS A UNIFORM YARD WASTE POLICY AND I THINK THE COUNTY WAS ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF DEALING WITH

THAT ISSUE IS ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ERIC OR ROB? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY IS THERE

ANY UPDATE ON WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING TO DO? >> I'M NOT EVEN I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT STAR ROBERT WE WORK IN THAT. THAT'S NOT EVEN OUR ISSUE.

>> IT'S REALLY A PUBLIC WORKS SOLID WASTE ISSUE. MAYBE WE CAN ASK THEM FOR AN UPDATE. IT'S NOT A NOT A PLANNING ISSUE .

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>> YEAH, WELL WE'LL MAKE SURE WITH OUR COORDINATION FOR THE AGENDA ON AN WE DON'T PLAN THAT WE HAVE THEM AVAILABLE AT THE NEXT MEETING GIVEN THEY DON'T MUCH THERE'S A LOT GOING ON

THAT. >> YEAH YEAH. YEAH.

JUST AS AN UPDATE FROM CINDY AND STEVE AND THEY RUN TO EMBELLISH THIS BUT WE DID.

WE DID. SINCE WE'RE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON RESUSCITATING BUILDING ADD AND EXPANDING OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM WE DID PASS ON FIRST READING A A REGULATORY MEASURE WITH WITH WITH LEGAL OR ILLEGAL LAW ENFORCEMENT RAMIFICATIONS BECAUSE AS WE DUG AND OPENED OUR EYES TO MARCI X WE FOUND FOUR REFRIGERATORS, AUTOMOBILE TIRES, WASHING

MACHINES. >> WE FOUND COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPERS USING OUR SPRING

WATER NICHES AS DUMPING GROUNDS. >> WE FOUND BLOKE BLOWING GRASS LEAVES INTO THE STORMWATER DRAINS AND WE JUST DON'T THINK IT'S RESPONSIBLE TO BE SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY WE'RE SPENDING TO REPAIR OUR SYSTEM WITHOUT THE THE THE CITIZENS VIOLENT VOLUNTARILY HELPFULLY BUY INTO IT BECAUSE BUILDING IS AN EXPENSIVE AND JOE.

JOE FROM HIS IS HIS MUCH VAST PUBLIC WORKS BACKGROUND KNOWS THAT IF YOU BUILD IT YOU'VE GOT TO MAINTAIN IT. AND WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL TOTAL CONTROL OF MAINTAINING MAINTENANCE. WHEN PEOPLE START DUMPING THINGS INTO CONDITIONS SO WE WE HAVE ON FIRST TRADING AND I THINK WE'RE LIKELY TO PASS ON SECOND READING SOMETHING THAT'S

GOING TO DO WITH YARD WASTE. >> YEAH, EVERYTHING I HAD IS I THINK WE'RE PLANNING ON

ENFORCEMENT. >> I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REPORTING NOT PUTTING OUR IN OUR STORM OR SYSTEMS AND ILLEGALLY DUMPING.

I IMAGINE THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE ALL HAVING IS JURISDICTIONS.

AND I ALSO ANTICIPATE AS THE COUNTY CLAMPS DOWN IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO THROW STUFF AWAY THAT WILL HAVE AN INCREASE, CHOOSE OF LEGAL AND START PUTTING DEBRIS IN

PLACES WHERE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO GO. >> SO JUST PLANT A SEED OF SOME WAY FOR US TO HAVE A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN IN ADDITION TO THE TO A STRONG US STRONG

ENFORCEMENT ARM. >> AND HOW DO WE GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO CITIES TOWNS THAT IF THIS TOUGH AND SOME OF THE PLACES THEY'RE PUTTING IN AND WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE SET ASIDE MONEY STORMWATER WATER UTILITY FOR THAT EDUCATION BUT HOPE WE SHOULD COOPERATE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT MESSAGING FROM THE STORM WATER UTILITY SINCE WE'RE

WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR IT ANYWAY AS PART OF THE FEE. >> THANK YOU.

THIS IS YEAH. GO AHEAD. SORRY.

YEAH. LET ME IS IT BRIAN FLAILING NAMED HERE AS A CONTACT PERSON FOR THAT BE ASSIGNED TO THAT AREA SINCE HE'S THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PUBLIC FACILITY COMMITTEE FOR COUNCIL. SO JUST PUT HIS NAME TO AS A CONTACT PERSONAL EMAIL AND LET

HIM KNOW. THANK YOU. >> JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, THE COUNTY ANTICIPATES THERE'LL BE WITH A NEW SYSTEM AT THE CONVENIENT CENTERS DECALS AND ONLY RESIDENTS CAN USE A CONVENIENT CENTERS. THERE'S GONNA BE.

WE ANTICIPATE UNFORTUNATELY MORE DUMPING AND ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND WE ARE BEEFING UP THE COUNTY'S SOLID WASTE ENFORCEMENT ABILITIES. SO HARRIS WOULD GOOD WHAT WOULD

CITY RATHER RESIDENTS BE ENTITLED TO DO TOWN? >> OH YES THEY WILL.

>> YEAH. THAT WE GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT THAT WHEN WE HAD MEETINGS

ABOUT IT. ABSOLUTELY. >> YEAH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND ALICE, I ASSUME THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES, THE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE GONNA GET AN UPDATE ON THIS TAKE OUT PROGRAM RATHER THAN JUST WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO MINE OURSELVES THROUGH PRESS OR WHATEVER TO FIND. I MEAN THE QUESTION I KEEP GETTING THAT'S ONE DECALS PER

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JUMP SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE NEED WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE AT EACH OF YOUR MEETINGS. HAVE HAD THE STAFF FROM PUBLIC WORKS COME TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT. GOOD IDEA.

THANK YOU, ALICE. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT TRASH ITEM I GUESS FUTURE CURBSIDE PICKUP AREAS DETERMINE HOW MUNICIPALITIES MAY WORK WITH THE COUNTY IF IF IF THERE IS NOT A PRESENTATION YOU KNOW YOU GUYS GET A REAL AS I'M TALKING

A LOT TODAY. >> I USUALLY DO BUT MY CLOCK IS TICKING SO YOU WON'T YOU WON'T YOU WON'T GET THE PLEASURE OF LISTENING TO MY RANTS OR MY NICE SPEECHES.

SO BEAR WITH ME. YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING I GUESS I'M PROBABLY OUTSIDE STAFF THE LONGEST SITTING MEMBER OF YORKIE, NOT YOUR PET AND GERALD MAY BE OUT OF THIS GROUP AND WAY BACK ONCE WE'VE DEALT WITH THE PLAN ITSELF AND THEN WE WENT TO THE NPC, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE COUNTY IS TALKING ABOUT NOW AND THAT IS REGIONALISM ON PARKS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT I HAVEN'T SUGGESTED WE LOOKED AT IS NOT THROUGH ANNEXATION BY ANY MEANS BUT THROUGH COLLABORATIVE AGREEMENTS WE COULD GET MORE BARGAINING POWER SHOULD THE COUNTY DETERMINE THAT THEY GO TO CURBSIDE PICKUP IN PLACES LIKE SHELL POINT. SO I KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE ON LADY'S ISLAND A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES THEMSELVES HAVE CONTRACTS WITH CONTRACTORS AND SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE BUT THERE IS CERTAINLY AN EFFICIENCY IN NUMBERS. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THERE BE A CONVERSATION COMING ABOUT. MAIN POINT IS ANOTHER SHELL POINT POINTED OR TWO THAT ARE ACTUALLY CLOSER TO PORT AND WITHIN PORT ROYAL'S GROWTH BOUNDARIES THAN THE CITY'S.

BUT THOSE ARE BASICALLY URBAN SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES WHERE UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES THEY

HAVE CURBSIDE. YEAH. >> AND YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS BUT THERE WAS AND THEY DID ATTEMPT TO DO AN RFP I SAY DAY PUBLIC WORKS DID WITH THAT IN MIND. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO UPDATE THIS GROUP ON THE RESULTS OF THAT. THEY DID IT IN NEW NEWARK AND I KNOW I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE DETAILS BUT THEY DID TRY THAT LOOKING AT AREAS ON WHITEY'S ISLAND MAKE POINT SHOW POINT AND TRIED TO. AND THE PRICES CAME BACK. DAVID WILHELM WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT AND PERHAPS HE CAN AT THE NEXT MEETING GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA HOW THAT TURNED OUT.

BUT NOT TO SAY WE SHOULDN'T TRY IT AGAIN. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING IF ONE OF US GOES TO THEM IT'S ANOTHER THREE OF US GOES TO THEM AND BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME LEVERAGE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A NEW CUSTOMER, WE'VE GOT SOME HISTORY, WE'VE GOT SOME WHO ARE MORE ANXIOUS TO GET IN OR SOME WHO WANT TO KEEP THEIR CONTRACTS. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO THAT IT MAY BE MORE SUCCESSFUL RODEO AND BEAUFORT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A I KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S A RESOLUTION OR AN ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE A POLICY THAT IF PORT ROYAL IS GOING CITY MAN BETWEEN OUR TOWN MANAGE OUR CITY MANAGER, THEIR TOWN MANAGER THAT IF EITHER OF THEM IS GOING TO DO A MAJOR CHAIRMAN THAT THEY CONSULT WITH EACH OTHER. OUR COUNCILS HAVE INSTRUCTED THEM TO AN AGREEMENT THAT IF EITHER OF THEM ARE LOOKING AT DOING A PER AMOUNT THEY AT LEAST HAVE A CONVERSATION AS TO WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING BECAUSE AGAIN BECAUSE OF NUMBERS AND BARGAINING POWER SOMETIMES THEY WORK, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T. BUT AT LEAST THAT'S THE STARTING POINT WHERE WE START TO GATHER BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR STRENGTH IS NOT AS INDIVIDUALS NOW.

I AGREE. AND I GUESS THE OTHER PIECE IS IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AGAIN AND TRY IT AGAIN, IT PROBABLY BE A LOT EASIER IF WE JUST WENT OUT FOR AN RFI RATHER THAN OUR OKATIE OR REQUESTS WITH YOU KNOW THEN LISTING THE WHOLE MONTH OF THE BROAD OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WHATEVER AREAS BECAUSE THAT'S A MUCH SHORTER DOCUMENT.

IT'S MUCH EASIER TO PUT TOGETHER. THERE'S A LOT LESS RESTRAINED STAFF TIME IS EASIER AND THEN WE CAN DO SOME ANALYSIS, DECIDE IF WE WANT TO TAKE IT FURTHER

AS A JOINT EFFORT. >> I AGREE. OK.

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>> I THINK WE'VE ALREADY. WELL NO WE HAVEN'T. THE REGIONAL STORMWATER COMPLIANCE AND SEPTIC TANK RESTRICTIONS THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN BEING ACCOMPLISHED ON THAT. AND I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT IN THIS MEETING.

BUT ERIC OR ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO UPDATE US ON THAT. I APOLOGIZE.

>> I DID NOT HEAR THE QUESTION. >> I WAS RESPONDING TO AN EMAIL.

WHAT WAS THE UPDATE YOU NEEDED? YEAH, IT WAS A REGIONAL STORM WATER COMPLIANT SEPTIC TANK RISK STANTON TANK RESTRICTIONS. I THINK ALAN SPOKE TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT IF YOU COULD GO GIVE US ANY MORE INPUT ON THAT. APPRECIATE.

IS THIS THE ONE SIZE RULE THAT WE WERE SPEAKING OF OR IS SOMETHING AGAIN THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING THROUGH THE STORM WATER DIVISION AS WELL AS THE REGIONAL STORMWATER

COMPLIANCE? >> OH YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT INVOLVED THAT THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC WORKS IN A STORM WATER DIVERSION ISSUE AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANYWHERE PROBABLY NEED TO SEPARATE OUT BUT THAT'S

DEFINITELY PUBLIC WORKS. >> COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS AND THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BOARD THAT THE TOWNS AND CITIES SIT ON. SO THEY MEET MONTHLY THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD LAWYERS ON THAT I CAN TAKE INITIATIVE TO ASK THEM TO BRIEF THIS GROUP ON THAT.

IT MIGHT JUST BE SOMETHING WE COULD SEND OUT VIA EMAIL BUT IT ABBOTT AT THE NEXT MEETING WE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ARE CONSIDERING A SEPTIC SYSTEM RELATED ITEM AND THAT IS TO REGULATE COUNTY WIDE THE MINIMUM WHAT SIZE FOR SEPTIC SYSTEMS BECAUSE THE FORM BASED CODE ALLOWS A LOT OF SMALLER LOT SIZES THAT ARE SOMETIMES APPROPRIATE FOR FOLKS TO DO MULTIPLE SEPTIC SYSTEMS IN AN AREA OF CLIFFS THAT'S CLOSE TO WATERWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT . SO THAT COUNTY DID ADOPT COUNTY COUNCIL DID ADOPT AN AMENDMENT THAT APPLIED TO LABELS ALLEN THAT INCREASED A LOT SIZE FOR SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY WHEN A SEPTIC TANK IS INVOLVED AND AS A PART OF THE COMP PLAN UPDATE WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT AS ONE OF THE IMMEDIATE GOALS THAT WE WILL ACT ON AS A COUNTY WIDE ORDINANCE.

SO AGAIN IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO YOUR SUBDIVISION OF PROPERTY AND THERE'S ONLY SEPTIC SYSTEMS AVAILABLE THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER LOT SIZED WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT KIND OF KIND OF A SEPTIC SYSTEM. BUT THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T

NECESSARILY RELATE TO WHAT'S WHEN ALMOST. >> ALL RIGHT.

S I THINK CHAIRMAN WE NEED TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO AND YEAH JUST SEPARATE THEM AND HAVE REGIONAL STORMWATER AS A PUBLIC WORKS COUNTY AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BOARD WHICH INCLUDES ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES ON IT AS AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO HAVE THEM TAUGHT TO TALK TO OUR GROUP AT ANOTHER MEETING AND THEN I AGREE I THINK SEPTIC TANKS IT NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE

CATEGORY EVEN THOUGH THEY DO RELAY BUT SEPARATE OK. >> YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON A REGIONAL STORMWATER ISSUE ON LADIES AND THEN HAVE BEEN THAT'LL BE THE POND OVER THERE NEAR NEW POINT AND RIGHT DOWN FROM MY OFFICE. SO THERE ARE SOME PLAN IN PLACE TO HANDLE THE STORMWATER ISSUE. BOB AND SALIDA AND ALL THIS AREA ON LADY'S ISLAND AND THEN YOU'RE RIGHT THERE IS A SEPARATE ISSUE WITH THE SEPTIC TANK ORDINANCE THAT PASSED TO SIX, SEVEN MONTHS AGO. OK. MOVING ON THEN BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS I THINK ROB, YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THE PUBLIC MEETINGS ON CONVENIENCE CENTERS. I BELIEVE THE SAME BUT HE HAS PENDING FURTHER COMMENTS ON THAT. WELL, WE'VE BEEN GETTING CONTACT FROM CONSTITUENTS NOW THAT THEY REALIZE IT'S REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN AT GATE AND ALTHOUGH WE DID HAVE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A SUBJECT OF INTEREST BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ELSE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. GREAT PURCHASE BILL ARE GOING TO CLOSE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR SHOULD WE TAKE THAT OFF OF OUR LIST?

>> I THINK YOU CAN TAKE IT OFF BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT DECALS AND ALL THAT.

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OK. NEXT ITEM WE HAD WAS IMPROVING THE PLASTIC BAG BAN IN

RECYCLING ISSUES. >> I THINK THIS ONE ON THE TABLE NOW THAT MAY POINTS FOR A

PUT TO BED FOR A LITTLE WHILE. >> MEAN WE TALK TO OUR FOLKS AT CCL AND SEE IF THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD HELP ORGANIZE LIKE THEY DID LAST TIME WITH THE WITH THE BAG BAN AND WORK TO BRING THE BRING FOLKS TOGETHER AND UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THE BUSINESSES AND I WON'T NAME THEM ARE USING IT AS A REASON EVEN IF YOU BRING YOUR OWN BAGS IN THERE. THEY ALMOST REFUSE TO UNLESS YOU PUT THEM IN YOURSELF WHICH IS FINE TO LET YOU USE YOUR REUSABLE BAGS AND THEY WANT TO GIVE YOU A PLASTIC BAG.

SO YEAH I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE THEM HELP US WITH THAT AND THEY'VE ALSO REVERTED TO THE OLD PLASTIC BAGS VERSUS THE NEW PLASTIC BAGS WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT BLOW AROUND VS. THE

HEAVIER ALMOST REUSABLE PLASTIC BAGS THEY WERE USING. >> INTERESTING.

OK. THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS IDENTIFY AND CONSOLIDATE REGIONAL VERSUS COMMUNITY PARTS. I BELIEVE MAYOR BILLY YOU WERE REFERRING TO THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER ALSO. YEAH BUT I JUST F THAT'S JUST BEEN USED ROB VOTE PROPERLY GRAND OR OR SITE. THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT I RAISED YEARS AGO. WE STARTED TO LOOK AT IT AND THE COMPANY STARTED WORKING ON THAT AND THEN IT WAS DROPPED FOR FOUR FOR A GOOD REASON I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT THAT I THINK CAN BRING US BACK TOGETHER AS A AS BECAUSE A GROUP THAT ARE GOING TO MERGE WITH THE CONVERSATION ON IMPACT FEES BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE IMPACT SEE ON RECREATION NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM FOR PARKS REGIONAL PARKS IMPACT FEE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT FEES ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE RIVER.

YOU HAVE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT NEEDS. SO LIKE A SCHOOL TO ALICE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS BETTER THAN I. ERIC GAVE A GREAT OVERVIEW CITY COUNCIL LAST WEEK WHICH IS WHY IT'S IT'S ON MY MIND. THERE WILL BE DIFFERENCES.

IT'S TIME TO DO IT. THE REPORT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY PRETTY GOOD AND COMPREHENSIVE BUT I THINK IT BRINGS SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE REGIONAL MATH THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POCKETBOOK. IT MIGHT RAISE THEM UP ON OUR LIST IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE OR SHOULD PARTICIPATE AS A GROUP IN THAT IN THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE I KNOW THAT AS MUNICIPALITIES INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY THIS IS ONE THAT THE MAYORS COFFEE WELL WILL BRING UP AS SOON AS WE EVOLVE AND BRIEFED FOLKS.

I SPOKE TO ERIC THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THIS. WE WILL THEN TALK ABOUT IT COLLECTIVELY IN TERMS OF HOW HOW HOW IT FITS WHERE WHERE WE'RE GOING.

>> I COULD GET INTO I DON'T I DON'T I RAISED IT. I WHEN I TALK TO YOU ONLY IN THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO BE PREPARED FOR. ALICE CAN PROBABLY HELP US BETTER. WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH IMPACT FEES AND OTHER STUDIES DONE. BUT WELL, YOU KNOW, ERIC BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THESE THINGS IDENTIFIED IN EVERY BASE CAMP PLAN THEN YOU CAN'T USE IMPACT

FEES SIMPLE SAMPLES. >> DIANE, I MAY BE OVERSIMPLIFYING IT AND I THINK STEVEN, YOU BOTH BROUGHT THAT UP AT YOUR WORKSHOP THAT ERIC DID FOR.

SO YEAH, THIS ONE'S A REAL IMPORTANT AGAIN. IT REALLY CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT MEETING. YEAH WELL BUT BUT THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE TO BE TALKED ABOUT ABOUT EVERYBODY PRETTY GOOD. I MEAN I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A UNIFIED CFP. BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT'S A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND AS YOU REQUESTED THIS ONE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT WOULDN'T WORK WOULD BE WHEN THERE WAS THE PANDEMONIUM.

SHALL I SAY, ROB, BOTH WAL-MART AND HOW WAS GOING TO RUIN LADY'S ISLAND AND CREATE

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SO HAD WE NOT HAD THAT IN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WAL-MART WAS COMING, WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE'D BE THE FEAR QUITE FRANKLY. THE REALITY IN MY ANECDOTAL VIEW IS THAT WAL-MART HAS MITIGATED TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON LADY'S ISLAND RATHER THAN COMPOUNDED THEM.

IT'S CERTAINLY ON THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AND I'M SURE ON THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL BECAUSE AT THAT MANY PEOPLE YOU DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL THROUGH US TO GET TO WHAT THEY NEED.

BUT YOU COME UP WITH AN EMERGENCY ESSENTIALLY LIKE THAT AND YOU CAN'T WAIT FIVE YEARS.

SO YOU KNOW, IT WORKED OUT THIS TIME. BUT I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I THINK THE MUNICIPALITY CITY IS TALK ABOUT AND WE'LL TALK WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES ABOUT IT.

>> AND I REALLY THINK THAT IS A IT NEEDS TO BE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE CITY MANAGERS BECAUSE IF IF SOMETHING'S NOT HAPPENING THAT WAY, THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING I HAVE TO YOU KNOW, PLUS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

BUT I MEAN RIGHT ABOUT MAYBE THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO GET OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR INVOLVED IN BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST PARKS AND REC, IT'S MONEY. HOW IS IT DISTRIBUTED ALL THOSE

THINGS SO. >> WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I AGREE I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY.

BUT WHAT I THINK IS I THINK IT'S GOING TO DRIVE OTHER ISSUES.

THE REASON I BROUGHT IT UP IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO DRIVE THE ISSUE OF PARKS AND DRIVE THE ISSUE OF RECREATION. IT'S GOING TO DROP WHERE WE ALL HAVE OUR DIFFERENT NEEDS.

AND SO I KNOW THAT FOLLOWING ERIC'S PRESENTATION, BILL WROTE A RATHER LENGTHY LETTER TO ASHLEY WHICH I'M SURE I'M SURE THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED TALKING IN GENERAL.

BILL COPIES OR INCLUDES VAN IN HIS CONVERSATIONS. I THINK IT IS BEGINNING AT THAT LEVEL BUT IT HAS SUCH A POTENTIAL IMPACT NOW. ALL RIGHT.

ON THIS GROUP BECAUSE THERE ARE ISSUES THAT WE MAY VERY WELL SHOULD BE SHOULD BE ENGAGED IN.

AND I AGREE IT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THIS GROUP TO NOT TO LOSE

TRACK OF IT. >> YOU KNOW, IF I GET OUT OF ONE THING ABOUT IT IS JUST SO

EVERYONE IS CLEAR. >> SO THERE'S THERE'S TIMEFRAMES AS THE MAYOR STATED WITH REGARDS TO THE SEE WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE IMPACT STUDY AND ORDINANCE BY STATE STATUTE EVERY FIVE YEARS PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE IMPACT THESE GOOD WILL SEE IP CERTAINLY CAN BE LONGER FIVE YEARS. SO WE JUST NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROJECTS AND THEN I SHOULD COLLECT THE MONEY. THE CFP WILL IDENTIFY THE DATE THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BEGIN OR BEING COMPLETED AND THE STATE LAW SAYS THAT BASED ON THOSE START AND COMPLETION DATE ESTABLISHED CFP YOU HAVE TO DO THOSE PROJECTS WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE DATE LISTED THERE. RIGHT. OR YOU START REFUND AND THE MONEY SO WE CAN DO WE CAN DO A RECREATION TRANSPORTATION ALL THESE PLANS THAT ARE GO OUT FOR 10, 15 YEARS FROM A FROM A CAP ON PRETTY MUCH PROGRAMING STANDPOINT BUT WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE STUDY EVERY FIVE YEARS. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY HELP PROJECTS LAYOFFS THAT WOULD TAKE MUCH LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS TO COMPLETE.

SO YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY TALKING ON THE FRONT END WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP.

THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T ANTICIPATE RIGHT WHERE SOMEONE'S PUTTING US OFF SEVERAL HUNDREDS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND TO IMPACT FEES AND THERE'S THERE'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS IS A RELATED ISSUE HOW YOU DO THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT A GAME.

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SO I THINK ALEX'S POINT IS THAT AT THAT LEVEL THERE'LL BE EACH. EACH OF OUR OUR OUR MANAGERS ADMINISTRATORS WILL BE WORKING ON US. BUT THOSE IN REDMOND INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS HAVE TO BE RENEWED JUST LIKE THE IMPACT FEES.

AND SO WHAT THINK WE CAN WE CAN WORK IT OUT BUT I JUST I JUST WANTED TO USE THAT AS ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW WE NEED WE MAY NEED FLEXIBILITY BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO JUST SAID THAT ARE ELECTED LEADERSHIP FOR THEM THIS BALLOT IS 0 ON HERE. KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE SCHEDULE WITH BOTH THE SCHOOL AND THE OTHER IMPACT THE TRANSPORTATION PARKS AND REC LIBRARIES EN MASSE. WE ARE IN THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT IMPLEMENTATION STAGE . THIS IS THE CUT THE CO CONSULT POTENTIAL BIAS IS HIRING AND ASSOCIATES. THEY HAVE GRAPHED THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT TEMPLATES AND HAVE GIVEN UP GIVEN THOSE TO ME AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND WE HAVE MADE AWARE WE'VE MADE THE IMPACT HERE. I'VE MADE THE IMPACT TEAM AWARE THAT INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT DISCUSSIONS AND IMPLEMENTATION IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS. SO WE WE SHOULD BE VERY SOON WORKING TOWARD THAT AND GOOD

WORK WITH WITH SO MANY THINGS GETTING EXTENSIONS THIS YEAR. >> THIS IS NOT ONE THAT GOT AN EXTENSION. WELL, IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO NEEDS AN EXTENSION HONESTLY. WE WE'VE GOT TO DO IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THE LAST TIME WE. WE UPDATED SOME OF THESE FIGURES THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING WAS BACK IN TO DALLAS AND THEN FOUR.

SO I'LL LET YOU DO THE MATH ON THE FIVE YEAR UPDATE SCHEDULE THERE.

>> I THINK THAT OUR LAST MEETING I HAD ASKED IS FOR EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEY BELIEVED TO BE THEIR REGIONAL PARKS VERSUS COMMUNITY PARKS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DISCUSSION ERIC. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE AND PUT IT ON THE TABLE TO THIS GROUP? AS FAR AS REGIONAL PARKS AND WE WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED REGIONAL PARK SO NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS PART OF THE IMPACT STUDY.

>> IN FACT WE DID WE. I THINK WE DID THAT YEARS AGO. ROB.

WE GOT THAT FAR AS I RECALL WE GOT THAT FAR SENTENCE. SO THAT'S THERE.

I THINK STEPHEN'S BEEN RAISING HIS HAND AND THAT DID GET ON MUTE IT.

I'M NOT I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU MUTE BUT BECAUSE WITH EVERY ACTION THERE'S A CONSEQUENCE.

BUT HE'S HE'S HE'S VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL AND YOU'RE ON MUTE TO SEE.

NO, NO, THAT'D BE AWESOME. O'BRIEN CHAMPAIGN AND I COULD DO THE WHOLE THING.

SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN PERFECT. >> SO I GUESS ERIC IS IS ANY GETTING SOME MORE PUBLICITY THAN WHITE FOLKS? SO YOU'RE SOMEWHERE PUBLISHED THE REGIONAL PARKS SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN KNOW WHERE HE GOES? I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT LAST TIME AND MAYBE THERE'S NOT THAT DISAGREEMENT NOW THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY ON A WEB SITE SOMEWHERE.

BUT WE WILL WE WILL MAKE SURE WE FIND WHATEVER WHAT WE'VE DONE ON REGIONAL PARKS AND SEND THAT OUT TO EVERYONE ON THIS COMMITTEE OR DIRECTLY SO YOU WILL HAVE IT.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. STEVEN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO SAY? OK. THE NEXT ITEM WAS OUT WITH A

FIRE SERVICE. >> AS IMPORTANT AS THIS IS, I DON'T THINK NOW'S THE TIME TO BE DISCUSSING IT. THERE'S OTHER REASONS WHY THIS IS NOT A GOOD TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK AT A LATER DATE. I THINK THE CITY WOULD AGREE WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTED SUPPORT ROYAL'S PARTNER AND FIRE SOS OK.

WE'LL PUT THAT OFF THE AGENDA FOR NOW UTILITY POLLUTION WAS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME.

ANY COMMENTS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? I THINK THAT WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET TO THE UTILITY COMPANIES ABOUT LEAVING DEAD POLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

KNOW YEAH ACTUALLY IT WAS. >> AND I CAN'T GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE I HAVE FINALLY

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MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL POLES ARE REMOVED. >> JOAN JETT, IF I CAN WEIGH IN, JOAN, BEFORE YOU GO INTO YOUR MEETING, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IS THAT IF IT IF THEY'VE GOT THE CAPABLE OFF OF THE POLE, THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT MOVING IT BUT THEY WILL NOT ASK THE CABLE OR THEY MAY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CABLE TO BE ON THAT POLE. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS AS WE PUT IN THAT THAT BIG MONSTER SPACESHIP LIKE SYSTEM WHERE WE COULD GET RID OF A LOT OF THE POLES AND THEY PULLED EVERYTHING DOWN THAT WAS CARRYING CABLE. YEAH.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM FULLY. WE'LL BE FIGURING OUT HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. SO THAT THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS MEETING IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND IF THAT INCLUDES AN AND PERMIT STYLE PROCESS FOR EVERY TIME THEY HAVE TO REPLACE THE POLES SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY'VE NOTIFIED THE OTHER UTILITIES AND A TIME LIMIT, THEN THAT'S WHAT'LL HAPPEN. SO I'LL JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW IT'S JUST. THERE ARE LITERALLY WE'VE GOT A COUPLE HOURS AT OUR THREE POLES SITTING SIDE BY SIDE. SO WE'RE TALKING OLDEST, OLD AND NEW.

WE'VE GOT TO GET IT THIS DEALT WITH IN THAT WAY. YEAH, WE STILL.

WE STILL HAVE SOME TO WATCH WHILE WE'RE ON THAT SUBJECT. I THIS IS PROBABLY MORE A QUESTION TO THE TO THE COUNTY BUT IT OBVIOUSLY AFFECTS IT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE RURAL AREAS LIKELY BOARD THAN THAN THE MORE SADNESS DEVELOPED AREAS BUT THERE'S THE CAMP AND IT'S THE COUNTY EITHER IN COLUMBIA OR THROUGH BEAUFORT HAVE A CHAMPION.

NOW THAT BROADBAND IS SO SO ON SO MUCH ON THE TABLE AT BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.

I READ THIS MORNING AS MOST OF YOU DID THAT THEY ARE GIVING AUTHORITY TO THE THE COOPERATIVES TO RENT SPACE TO THE UTILITIES ON EXISTING BOWLS WHICH YOU KNOW SAVES A LOT OF COSTS AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS A MUNICIPAL ISSUE BUT THERE'S GONNA BE A THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF MONEY SPENT ON IT. AND I JUST HOPE YOU'VE HEARD IS IS WORKING ON IT. I DON'T KNOW. I YORK DO YOU KNOW I THINK I

THINK THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN ON TOP OF IT. >> AS MISS HOWARD UP YOUR HAD

TO LEAVE THE MEETING, OK? >> AND I HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS LIKE YOU GO THIS MORNING.

SO I WAS TOO. >> BUT YES, I KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE.

AND LARRY MCKELLEN AND YOUR HAVE BOTH AND GERALD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PRETTY CLOSE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND WORKING WORKING ON IT. SO I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES,

TRYING TO GET EVERY PENNY WE CAN. >> AND THE SCHOOL BOARD WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNER WITH YOU SINCE THEY'VE BEEN TO PUT OUT MOBILE TRANSMITTERS.

IT'S GOOD RIGHT AWAY. THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL TO GET GOOD TRACTION OF GROWTH DEVELOPMENT AND COORDINATE THE MASTER PLANS BETWEEN THE MUNICIPALITIES AND THE COUNTY AND THAT PROBABLY HAS TO DO WITH GROWTH BOUNDARIES THAT SAME TIME TO ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT COORDINATION FROM I KNOW BOTH OF MATH.

>> THE PLANS ARE MOVING FORWARD. I JUST HOPE THAT WE'RE DOING SOME COORDINATION WITH THOSE MASTER PLANS AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH.

AND MIKE I AM WAS IT TUESDAY NIGHT? WAS IT.

ANYWAY WHENEVER THEY BRIEF THE PUBLIC ON THEIR ACCOUNT PLAN THE COUNTY GAVE ROB AND THE DESIGN WASN'T DESIGNED DESIGN WORK SO I THOUGHT WAS GOOD. AND SO I'M KEEPING ABREAST OF THAT AND I'LL WORK WITH ROBERT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE KIND OF IN IN SYNC SO TO SPEAK JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WERE YOU GIVEN THAT SAME PRESENTATION AND UPDATE TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE DURING THEIR OCTOBER FIELD MEETING?

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>> AS A PART OF THAT AND ALSO SCHEDULING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF THERE IS EVER OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE FOR US TO DO IT WITH THE ABC THEN WE WOULD BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

>> WELL, BUT JOHN, A PORTRAIT OF BEAUFORT COUNTY ON OUR PART WHERE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AS ROBERT STATED EARLIER, THINGS ARE A LITTLE SLOWER WITH THIS. BUT NOW FORTUNATELY A DIRECTOR

HAS GIVEN US A BRIEFING ON LINE WITH THAT DECEMBER DEADLINE. >> ERIC AT THE MVC BE GLAD TO

HAVE TIME FOR YOU TO DO A PRESENTATION. >> THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR US TO DO NOW. ALL RIGHT. WELL, ROB, THE COORDINATE THAT WITH YOU ON AS WOULD BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S THANK YOU.

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA HERE WHETHER OR NOT THE AGENDA. >> THE NEXT ITEM UNDER THE OLD

AGENDA IS THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. >> MIKE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS KIND OF IN THIS BASE RIGHT NOW. MAYBE I SUGGESTED THE NEXT MEETING WE FIND A LITTLE AGENDA TIME ASK JOHN O'TOOLE MAYBE FOLKS FROM THE DAN RYAN CENTER AND DIGITAL OR TO COME IN AND KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE. WE'VE GOT SOME REAL TRACTION SOUTH COAST CYBER CENTER A GRANT TO SOME WHAT THE COGS PRESENTED TO EARLIER.

THERE IS A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE SPACE WE MAYBE BRING SOME STAKEHOLDER THEN GIVE A GIVEN UPDATE. YEAH. I HAVE ONE ITEM ON ME THAT WOULD RELATE TO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IN MY OPINION THAT WOULD BE ATTAINABLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND. WE'VE SELECTED THE CONSULTANT GROUP OUT AS ROBINSON AND YOU

MIGHT AS A PART OF THAT. >> IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AS PART OF THE BROADER REGIONAL HABITATION MALCOLM COMMITTEE WE CAN ALSO HAVE THEM ON TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A GOLF PRESENTATION AS TO WHAT THEIR PLANS OR MEETING WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND THEN BOBBING IN THE VARIOUS GROUPS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF REWILDING TRUST FUND WOULD BE IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO THAT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING AS WELL WE CAN ARRANGE THAT OR SOME MEETING IN THE NEAR

FUTURE. >> OKAY THAT COMPLETES THAT LIST SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT

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>> I'LL JUST ADD ONE THING WHICH WE WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO GO BUT THAT ARTICLE THIS MORNING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CLOSING OF PARRIS ISLAND IS IS VERY CONCERNING.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO OFFER TO COUNTY AND PORT ROYAL IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THE ROOM TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT AN EFFORT TO TO LOBBY, TO SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE PROTECT THAT WE PROTECT THAT BASE.

I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. THAT'S LIKE. I AGREE, STEVE AND I'D LIKE MILITARY ENHANCEMENT COMMITTEE AT THE CHAMBER NEEDS TO GET REACTIVATED TO YEAH.

>> I THINK THAT THERE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE A VERY STRONGLY WORDED LETTER COMING FROM EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY AT LEAST A PRELIMINARY LETTER SINCE WE GOT

THE ANNOUNCEMENT SO SHORTLY. >> YOUR MUTED MR. OK. >> I ECHO WHAT EVERYONE SAYS, ALICE. ACTUALLY THE MILITARY ENHANCEMENT COMMITTEE IS NOW INDEPENDENT FROM THE CHAMBER. THEY THEY THEY YEAH THEY ARE. I MISSPOKE.

I'M SORRY. YEAH. NO.

AND THEY'VE STRENGTHEN THEMSELVES AND SEEM TO BE DOING A GOOD JOB AND I BASICALLY HAVE REFERRED TO TO REPORTERS AS I'M SURE JOE GOT PHONE CALLS THIS MORNING TO THEM.

HI. AND THAT'S BY CHANCE JOE AND I ARE MEETING WITH CONGRESSMAN CUNNINGHAM ON ANOTHER MATTER TODAY WHICH I THINK WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLANT THAT SEED WITH HIM. COUNTY HAS CONTINUED TO FUND THE MILITARY ENHANCEMENT

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SO THEY DO AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE YOU KNOW, THE PEOP PEOPLE THEY HAVE THEIR LIAISONS SHALL WE CALL THEM RATHER THAN LOBBYISTS IN ANNUAL FISHING WHO SHOULD BE ON TOP OF THIS

ANYWAY? >> YEAH, I WOULD SAY THING IN THE OTHER.

THE OTHER THING IS ONCE AGAIN THE PAPER JUST CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT PARRIS ISLAND IS TO SAY CALLED BEAUFORT, ARIZONA. BUT SOMEDAY THEY'LL UNDERSTAND WHERE IT IS.

JOE THEY JUST PRINT. THEY JUST THEY JUST APPRECIATE OUR LOVE AFFAIR.

I'D GO WITH THAT FOR TODAY. HOW ARE SYMBIOTIC RELATIONSHIP ? YOU CAN BE SURE IT ISOLATES. I SAID YOU CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO MAYOR DE VITO SAYS PORT

ROYAL IN PARRIS ISLAND IS IN THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL. >> ARE THERE ANY INTERIM

[13. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR FRIDAY, OCTOBER 23, 2020, 9:30 A.M. MEETING DETAILS WILL BE ROUTED PRIOR TO OCTOBER 23.]

THE LEADERSHIP TOGETHER IN ANOTHER MEETING? >> OH, HEARING A HEARING THEN I

WOULD LIKE THEM TO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ELABORATE ON ONE THING AS A RESULT OF LAST NIGHT'S MEETING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE WORKED ON I'VE GIVEN UP OVER A YEAR OF MY LIFE ON ECO TOURISM HERE IN THE COUNTY. I WILL.

I WAS RELATIVELY YOUNG PLEASED WITH THE OUTCOME LAST NIGHT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF THAT I AS WELL AS COUNT FOR AN ADMINISTRATION HOW CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CURRENT ECO TOURISM PROVISIONS IN OUR CODE AND WE WILL BE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TAKING STEPS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THAT SOME WAY SO THAT WE ARE NOT FACED WITH THE PROSPECT THAT WE WERE FACED WITH THAT ISSUE THIS GO AROUND ANYWAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MIKE, IF I CAN ADD ONE THING ADD MY TWO CENTS HERE FOR A SECOND. NOT ON WHAT WAS LAST NIGHT BUT EARLIER ON IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE COORDINATING THE MASTER PLAN. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NPC AND THE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU GUYS TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING WE'VE DONE THEM IN THE PAST. THAT'S BEEN A VERY LONG TIME AND DO A SINGLE PRESENTATION IN BOTH. SO THERE CAN BE AND EVERYBODY CAN HEAR THOSE CONVERSATIONS BACK AND FORTH ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO TOM ERIC AND HIS TEAM MISS HILARY AND ALL HIS STAFF AND AND ALSO IF I KNOW WHAT YOU WANT ON THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, TELL THEM THANK YOU BECAUSE I WORKED REALLY HARD LAST NIGHT.

AND THEY WORKED REALLY HARD BEFORE LAST NIGHT. MORE IMPORTANT.

>> THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I THIS IS THE COUNTY BUT IT'S REALLY ALL OF US.

WHILE THAT PROJECT WAS TURNED DOWN AND I HAD NO DOG IN THAT FIGHT, I DON'T THINK IT WAS APPROPRIATE. I THINK THAT IT MIGHT WAKE US UP TO THE AUDIENCE FOR ECO TOURISM AND SOME OF THE YET TO BE IMPROVED WITH QUOTES IMPROVED RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS AND USES FOR WE MAY WE MAY HAVE LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THAT IN TERMS OF PLANS TO TO MAKE SOME OF OUR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROPERTIES MORE USER FRIENDLY, PRODUCTIVE AND

EDUCATIONAL. >> GOOD POINT. >> WELL WITH THAT IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION COMMENTS I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND SOME OF IT'S MOVED SECONDED BY JOE. ALL IN FAVOR GAY GAY. HEY

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