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YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
WE CAN SAY A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WE'LL MOVE ON.
WE'D LIKE TO CALL FOR APPROVAL OF THE MEETING AND I NEED A MOTION SECOND.
ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS? WE'LL SEE ANYBODY.
UM, DID WE JUST APPROVE THE AGENDA? I SKIPPED OVER THAT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA, OR WE MADE A MODIFY I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO OFFER, UM, LIKE TO MOVE THAT WAY, MODIFY THE AGENDA AND INCLUDE, UH, ON, ON THE, YOU MAY HAVE THIS ALREADY.
UM, BUT INCLUDE THE LADIES ISLAND LADIES ON WHAT TODAY'S MEETING, WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING ABOUT EVERY THIRD WORD AND NOT, NOT THOSE FOUR.
I MEAN, I'M USED TO UNDERSTANDING YOU'RE YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE CAN, ALRIGHT, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? IT LOOKS LIKE NOT EVERYBODY.
SO I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF IT.
SO IF EVERYBODY WHO'S NOT SPEAKING CAN MEET THERE.
ARE WE READY NOW? YEAH, TRY IT AGAIN.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT AGENDA TO INCLUDE A DISCUSSION FOR PEOPLE.
ROB, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO TO PARTICIPANT AND THEN HIT MUTE ALL EXCEPT FOR CHUCK.
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME YOU ALL TO ZOOM.
SHALL I START? I TRY TRY IT ONE MORE TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE AMEND THE AGENDA TO INCLUDE A DISCUSSION, UM, OF THE LADY'S ISLAND, UM, ZONING REVIEW TO, UH, INSURANCE, UM, HARMONIZATION COMPLIANCE CONSISTENCY WITH THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN.
WE'LL WE'LL PUT THAT DOWN THERE.
AND UH, AFTER WE DO THESE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS, IF YOU'D LIKE, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT.
WE'VE, UH, I'VE SENT IN SOME COMMENTS ON THE FILL IN DRAFT ORDINANCE THERE.
HE CAN SEND THEM OUT TO THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE MEETING HERE AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
AND I EXPECT WE'LL GET SOME MORE AS, AS THE ORDINANCE GETS AROUND.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS HERE AT THIS ZOOM MEETING, BUT WE WILL HAVE SOME TO REVIEW AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE PARTICIPANTS GET A COPY OF THOSE COMMENTS ON THE FIELD AND COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY ORDINANCE.
SO, ALAN, IF I COULD SAY ONE THING REAL QUICK, THIS IS ERIC.
I WILL TELL YOU ALL THAT THE CHAMBER HAS STARTED TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
UM, SO YOU'RE JUST BEING MINDFUL OF THAT.
YOU ALL MAY WANT TO ADD A MEETING BEFORE WE RECOMMEND THAT THIS MOVE FORWARD TO HAVE IAN SCOTT JOIN THE MEETING AND SHARE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY HAVE AT A LATER DATE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
UM, I DO, UM, I DO KNOW HE'S GETTING SOME PHONE CALLS FROM POTENTIAL BUSINESS LEADERS IN THE AREA ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE BEFORE WE TAKE THIS ON THE COUNCIL THAT WE AT LEAST, UM, ENTERTAIN OR LISTEN TO THEIR VIEWPOINT ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.
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TO HIM AND, UH, AND, AND TALK TO HIM.AND, UH, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A LOT OF PARTICIPANTS LIKE THAT.
THAT WAY YOU CAN GET SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED.
UM, WE'VE GOT SOME COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS HERE.
UM, ONE OF THEM IS JULIANA WANTS TO GET OFF THE COMMITTEE AND PUT JESSICA WHITE ON, UM, AND WE JUST NEED TO GIVE HER THOSE APPROVAL UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION TO THAT.
WE, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE ON THAT AND THEY'LL HAVE A MOTION FROM THE FLOOR.
HEY, ALAN, I GUESS MAKE THE MOTION TO REPLACE MY SEATS WITH MY COLLEAGUE FROM THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND OUR OFFICE DIRECTOR, JESSE WHITE, UH, TO TAKE OVER MY SEAT ALL IN FAVOR.
JUST RAISE YOUR HAND OR SOMETHING.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD YOUR OWN BOARD.
WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU JULIANA.
WE HAVE A, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF RESIGNATIONS, PAUL BUTARO AND CAROLINE FENTON.
AND, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THEM.
I'VE GOT SOME NOMINATIONS I'D LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE AND, AND, AND GET YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON IT OR FEED IT BACK TO ME.
UM, PAUL REPRESENTED LIPPA AND I TALKED TO DAVID
SO I'M GOING TO NOMINATE HIM AND HOPEFULLY HE'LL GET BACK TO US.
THE CANDIDATE REPRESENTATIVE, SINCE HE'S THE HEAD OF LEPA, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO LET HIM MAKE THAT DECISION WHO CAN REPRESENT THEM BEST ALL.
IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO REPLACE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SAYING ANY, ANY EMOTIONS TO PUT HIM UP THERE.
BESIDES ME, I HAD SO MANY OBJECTIONS TO HIM BEING ON THE BOARD.
SO WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE HERE.
WHEN WE LOST CAROLINE, SHE REPRESENTED THE BEAVER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND I'VE CONTACTED JASON HENSHER WHO'S ON THE CALL TODAY.
SO, AND SINCE HE'S ON THAT COMMITTEE, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT.
AND I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE HIM TO BE ON OUR COMMITTEE.
SO ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? I NEED A MOTION FROM THE FLOOR NOMINATING.
I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT, UM, AM I ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION? I THINK SO.
WE'RE LISTENING TO SO MOVED BY ANY OF THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR.
FOR COMING ON BOARD, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LOT OF HARD WORK AT IT.
SO OUR NEXT COMMITTEE MEMBER APPOINTMENT IS THE VICE CHAIRMAN AND, UM, PUT A MOTION TO PUT MIKE, TELL ME THERE I'VE NEEDED A SECOND FROM THE, UH, FROM THE GROUP.
NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE WORK TO DO MY GREAT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT A FULL BOARD HERE NOW AND A WELCOME ON BOARD JESSICA.
WE MET YOU ONCE OR TWICE, BUT THEN NOW YOU GET TO GET IN THE THROWS OF IT.
I THOUGHT I ALREADY WAS ON BOARD, BUT THANK YOU.
I THINK WE MET WHEN WE PLANNED THE PHIL ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THE FIRST DAY.
IS THAT THE LAST ONE? I JUST WASN'T.
I WAS CALLED IN, BUT THAT'S JUST JESSE, JESSE.
UM, MY REPORT, SO I'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
ONE WILL BE THAT LADY'S ISLAND ZONE AND HARMONIZATION FOR VIEW.
AND I WANT, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE VILLAGE CENTER PLAN.
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ONE OF MY COMMENTS ABOUT EVERYTHING IS THAT WE'VE SEEN THERE'S 600 APARTMENTS SCHEDULED TO GO IN NORTH OF THE BROAD AND WE'LL ROLL IN OTHER PARTS OF BEAVER COUNTY.SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY REVIEW WHAT WE WANTED TO GET ACCOMPLISHED IN THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN AND STAY FOCUSED ON THOSE GOALS.
UM, I KNOW THAT STAFF ROBIN AND ERIC AND DAVID ARE ALL, UM, OVERWORK WITH THE REVIEW OF THE COMP PLAN AND GETTING THIS ORDINANCES AND OVERLAY DISTRICTS THROUGH, BUT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A PLAN IN PLACE FOR THE VILLAGE CENTER AND ALSO GET A FOCUS ON THIS TRAFFIC.
AND, UH, AND IN THIS LAST LOST ONE OF OUR TRAFFIC STUDY GIRL AND BAY, SHE WAS VERY GOOD AND SHE, I THINK SHE PASSED AWAY THIS BASS JACKSON.
SHE PASSED AWAY THAT SRT MEETINGS.
SO, UM, WE'VE GOT A NEW GUY THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GARRETT FRAELICH.
AND I THINK HE'S JUST FINDING HIS WAY INTO ALL THE SEXUAL RESPONSIBILITY.
SO WE'LL BE WANTING TO COORDINATE THE VILLAGE PLAN AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO ON LADY'S ISLAND WITH TRAFFIC, WHICH, WHICH I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS IMPORTANT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT VILLAGE PLAN AND PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE AND UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY AND THE CITY MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY RIGHT NOW, BUT WE NEED TO GET RFP INVESTIGATION IN AND MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THAT DOWN.
SO WE, SO WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT AND THE MONEY'S ARE AVAILABLE AND THE STAFF HAS TIME THAT WE CAN WORK FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOME THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY WITH WHITE HALL TO BE SETTLED.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE TO START.
ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE CITY PLANS.
SO Y'ALL GOT SOME REVEALED WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR THE FIELD.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU READ OF HOPE.
I DON'T KNOW IF ROBIN INCLUDED THE TWO COMMENTS I GOT FROM SOME PEOPLE ALREADY.
DID YOU SEND THAT PACKET OR WE'LL GET IT OUT TO CLEAR UP? NO, I DID NOT SEND IT OUT, BUT I HAD PLANNED ON, UM, GOING OVER SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS TODAY IN HOPE WHEN WE CAN AT LEAST GET SOME DIRECTION FROM THIS COMMITTEE, HOW WE WANT TO HANDLE THEM, I WOULD RECOMMEND A CLOSE RATE OF THE ORDINATION AND THINK ABOUT IT.
IF YOU OWN THE LAND, WHAT YOU'D WANT MORE REASON I SAY THAT IS WE'VE GOT TO GO TO COUNTY.
NOW WE'VE GOT CHAMBER INVOLVED.
THEN YOU WANT TO REVIEW THE FILL ORDINANCE OR DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF IT? YEAH, I THINK IT WAS CHUCK.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THE DIRECTION OF TOWNS, THEIR ISSUE, AS OPPOSED TO WE'RE JUMPING INTO THE PHIL ORDINANCE.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN PUT SOME MEAT ON THE CENTER.
WE KNOW WE'VE GOT THE DRAFT RFP READY.
I KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE MIKE WANTS TO GO WITH THIS.
I THINK THAT WAS SORT OF MIKE'S BABY MIKE AND RICKY PUT TOGETHER THE P I BELIEVE, WHERE ARE WE GOING? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO ON THE POST TO JUST TALKING ABOUT IT SORT OF AS A REPORT ITEM? WELL, ALRIGHT.
SO IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION ON THAT, I'LL, I'LL GO DOWN TO THE NEXT STEP.
AND WHAT GETS THE VILLAGE CENTER PLAN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THAT'S THE ONE THEY PUT THE RFP OUT.
ARE WE SKIPPING IT? ARE WE NOT DISCUSSING THE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO JUST GO OUT OF ORDER ON THE ITEM.
I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE AGENDA.
I DIDN'T REALIZE IT SKIPPING YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT COMMENTS WERE I, I I'VE READ THROUGH THE, UH, PHIL ORDINANCE, UH, HAVE SOME PRETTY GOOD FAMILIARITY WITH IT, BUT, UH,
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I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO REVIEW THAT IN DETAIL TO YOU.BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE COMMENTS THAT, UH, UH, ROB HAS GOTTEN RELATING TO THAT.
SO WE COULD GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE, UH, UM, UH, PUSHBACK OR WHATEVER INFORMATION THERE MAY BE RELATED TO THAT ARE COMING BACK FROM, UH, FROM THE CITIZENRY.
BE ABLE TO PUT IT ON THE SCREEN, ROB, OR WE DIDN'T GET IT TO YOU.
UM, YEAH, SO I CAN PUT IT ON THE SCREEN AND I'LL DO A QUICK RUN THROUGH THE TWO ORDINANCES.
CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST PROVIDE A QUICK OVERVIEW BEFORE WE GET INTO THE COMMENTS, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYONE ELSE.
WELL, I'M GOING TO DO A QUICK WALK THROUGH OF THIS.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS I REALLY WANTED TO EMPHASIZE WAS WE HAD A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS IS THE FILL ORDER ABOUT WHERE IT WOULD APPLY IN BEAVER COUNTY.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE COMMENTS IN THIS BIG NAME.
UM, WE STARTED WITH WANTING THIS TO CORRESPOND WITH OUR CURRENT TEAM OF FLOOD MAPS, A ZONE A, BUT WE REALIZED THAT THAT IS A VERY TENUOUS POSITION BECAUSE HEY, THE MAPS ARE NOT VERY ACCURATE.
UH, WELL BRAUN, IT WAS DONE IN, IN, IN THE EIGHTIES.
THERE WERE A LOT OF INCONSISTENCY WITH WHEN YOU LOOK AT ELEVATION CONTOURS.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE MAPS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING UPDATED.
AND SO WE ANTICIPATE, ALTHOUGH IT'S SORT OF LIKE WAITING, I ANTICIPATE HAVING SEEM ON MY HOUSE.
SO WE'RE KIND OF IN INFLUX HERE, THE SEA LEVEL RISE TASK FORCE, WE KIND OF SETTLED ON TAKING THE APPLICATION, WHICH WOULD BE PREVAILING BASE, FLOOD ELEVATION AND BUFORD COUNTY FOR MOST OF THE AREAS, WHICH IS 13, UM, AND MAKING THAT FILM WOULD APPLY.
UM, SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE YOU KNOW, REALLY PRESERVED THE NATURAL, UM, DRAINAGE PATTERNS, UM, IN, IN LANDSCAPE, THE CORPORATE POINT OF VIEW, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THEM.
UM, JUST SOME, UH, SUMMARY IS THAT THIS WOULD APPLY TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS, UM, AND IT WOULD LIMIT THE VERTICAL FILL.
SO THREE FEET, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.
BASICALLY SAY THAT IF YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE, FILL ON A SITE FOR GRADING AND IT'S GOING OVER THREE FEET, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THEIR WAY OF ELEVATING STRUCTURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL PUT HIM IN THE PILATES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING FOR LARGE LOTS, UH, 20 ACRES OF LAWN AREA OF PHIL WOULD BE LIMITED TO ONE THIRD AT THAT SITE OR THREE 30, 3%.
UM,
YOU ALREADY HAVE STRUCTURED THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE GRADING IS THE FIELD IS GREATER THAN THREE FEET.
ADD AN ADDITION THAT WOULD BE NO LESS THAN 15% OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA THAT WOULD BE COMMITTED.
UM, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY WE TREAT
UM, THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC, UM, OKAY.
THERE'S SOME PROVISIONS ON INDIVIDUAL LIVES TO ALLOW FOR THINGS LIKE ACTIVITIES, EROSION CONTROL, FILLING IN WASHED OUT SECTIONS OF PROPERTY, UM, LANDSCAPING.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS DOING SOME SIMPLE LANDSCAPING IN A PROPERTY WITH A CAR IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTED, UM, THERE'S SOME PROVISIONS FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES, UH, ROADS PUMP STATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURES HAVE TO BE ELEVATED, THE BUMPS BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WHERE IT'S PROVIDING FOR HEALTH SAFETY, WELFARE, WE HAVE EXEMPTION STARE IN THAT SORT
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OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT POSITION, MAKING THAT CALL.UM, THAT'S PRIMARILY THE GIST OF IT.
ALSO, THESE ARE BASICALLY ADDRESSING SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US BY DAVE GASOLINE, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A SLOPING PROPERTY AND IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A LEVEL SITE, UM, WE ALLOW THEM TO AVERAGE STEP THROUGH MAYBE FIVE FEET OF ONE END AND TWO FEET ON THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE FOR SLOW BIG PROPERTY.
YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE A PANT THAT IS SOME LEVEL, AND ALSO WHERE YOU HAVE DEPRESSION AND THE ST.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO FEEL IS THIS PART OF THE NATURAL DRAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, JURISDICTIONAL LEVEL ONES.
SO, UM, THAT IS MORE OR LESS JUST TO THE ORDINANCE.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WILL MENTION, I WOULD ALSO AFTER PRESENTING THE TWO ORDINANCES, I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU SOME NOW WHAT AREAS ARE EFFECTIVE.
UM, SO THAT'S THAT, UM, AND THEN I CAN GO INTO THE CULTURAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY.
IT'S A LOT SIMPLER UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, ROB, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
THE WAY I READ THAT THE PHIL ORDINANCE APPLIES, UH, STARTING AT THE, UH, BUILDING FOUNDATION, UH, LINE.
SO THE FILL DOES NOT EXTEND BEYOND THE BUILDING FOUNDATION LINE, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS THAT WE ALLOW, UM, WHERE IS IT? I THINK IT'S AT THE BEGINNING IT'S, UM, FOR THE STRUCTURE, UM, DRIVEWAY ACCESS, AND THEN THERE'S TAPERING, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FOUNDATION OF, OF, OF MINIMUM SLOPE.
AND I REALIZED, I NEED TO ADD THAT, CAUSE IT SAYS SLOPE OF ONE TO THREE TO SAY NO SLOPE OF ONE TO THREE.
I'M UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE DECIDING ANYTHING HERE TODAY, BUT THE ONE SUGGESTION I MIGHT HAVE FROM A CONSTRUCTABILITY STANDPOINT IS, UH, USUALLY, UH, WE HAVE ABOUT A FIVE FOOT, UH, AROUND THE FOUNDATION OF EACH BUILDING, BUT, UM, UH, COULD STILL BE, UH, WITHIN THAT, UH, HAVE THAT FILL ADDED TO IT AND THEN SLOPE AWAY FROM THAT.
OTHER THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS AND, AND, UH, JUST THE BUILDABILITY OF THE BUILDING TO, UH, HAVE THE FOUNDATION, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT BE AS DRASTICALLY SET OUT, UH, AS IT WOULD BE IN THAT.
UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A COMMENT I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, THE FIVE FEET IS, IS ANY SCRIPT, UM, STRAIGHT RE UH, STRINGS ON IT EITHER.
UH, YOU MIGHT GET SOME OTHER COMMENTS FROM CONTRACTORS ABOUT THE BUILDERS.
USUAL SLOPES ARE LIKE ONE TO FIVE, ONE TO THREE IS A LITTLE STATE FOR SOMEBODY IN A WHEELCHAIR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY COMMENTS THAT I GOT BACK FROM SUNDAY.
WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH ON THAT ONE.
ACTUALLY, I THINK ORIGINAL SAID ONE TO SIX AND THEN CONCERNED THAT SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A SIDE YARD SETBACK TO THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, OR WE MIGHT BE IN A SITUATION LIKE, UM, WE'LL LOOK.
ANOTHER COMMENT I GOT WAS THEY WANTED TO SEE A MAP SHOWING ALL PROPERTIES AFFECTING THAT STUFF.
I'M SURE DICK WOULD WANT TO SEE, OH, WE HAVE THAT SOMEWHERE.
A COUPLE OF OTHER COMMENTS THAT I GOT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN ITEM B YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE SOME STANDARDS STANDARD DRAWN TO SOMETHING THAT CONTRACTORS COULD FOLLOW.
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I THINK THAT TO ME, THEY'RE NONCONFORMING.THOSE ARE STRUCTURES THAT EXISTED BEFORE IT HAD THE FULL ORDINANCE.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A SCALE TO EXPAND UP 50% OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA.
WELL, YOU GOT A 2,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.
YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET 375 FEET.
YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM FOR BEDROOMS AND PATIOS AND STUFF.
JUST, WE NEED TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY ON THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THAT COMMENT WAS ABOUT.
AND THEN HAD A MATH ONE COURSE.
I'D HAVE TO READ IT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT WE GOT.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS PROVIDE EXEMPTIONS FOR WHAT WE'RE SAYING ARE NORMAL ACTIVITIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE ON A PROPERTY LANDSCAPING OR BEING ACTIVITIES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S MEANT TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND GIVE THEM SOME EXCEPTION SO THEY CAN DO THINGS.
AND NOW THEY HAVE TO GO GET A CAR.
UM, LET'S SEE HERE, WE GOT A GAS YOU SEND IN ABOUT 10 ITEMS, ITEM NUMBER D THERE'S ONE IN HERE, RIGHT? WE'RE TESTING ALL THE FIELD THAT GOES WITH FLOOD.
IS THAT RIGHT? DOES I READ THAT CORRECTLY? UM, PHIL BROUGHT IN ITEM K.
AND I WILL SAY THIS, THIS LANGUAGE CAME FROM OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT AND I JUST, THAT'S WHY I WAS LATE STARTING THE MEETING.
I WAS TALKING TO MY KATIE CLARA.
WHO'S BEEN HEAVILY INVOLVED IN OUR TASK FORCE.
THIS MAY APPLY TO 0.5% IF THAT, I MEAN, BECAUSE SOMEONE STILL IS NOT BEING BROUGHT IN.
UM, IT'S NOT FILLING AREAS BELOW THE SEASONAL HIGH WATER TABLE THAT THEY FELT THAT HAVING THIS KILL SOMEBODY DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A, A BAR OF THE PIT THAT THEY'RE NOT PUTTING TOXIC SOIL OR SOIL WITH.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THE RIGHT VERBAGE AND GET A GOOD ONE OF THE LAST THINGS THAT FAILED.
LET'S SAY THEIR LAST COMMENT, THE COST OF THIS WOULD PREVENT THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER FROM BUILDING A TOMATO BED.
IF I WANT TO LOAD A TOP FOUR DELIVERED TO MY HOUSE FOR TOP DRESSING, MAKING A GARDEN OR WHATEVER, TO BE A COLD DAY IN HELL BEFORE I HAD TO PAY A P TO FILL IN AN APPLICATION.
SO THAT'S THEIR PARTING WORDS.
I THINK I'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM.
THE INTENT IS THAT SOMEBODY BUILDING ITS NATIVE BED HAS THAT EXEMPTION, YOU KNOW, FARMING, LANDSCAPING.
UM, SO WE, IF THERE'S SOMEWHERE IN THE LANGUAGE HERE THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH OF THAT FLEXIBILITY.
WE DEFINITELY NEED TO CLEAN IT UP.
JUST START OUT THAT CARE GRAPH WHERE YOU GIVE THOSE EXCEPTIONS.
IF YOU HAD ABOUT EIGHT ITEMS I CAN READ ON AFTER THE FIRST ONE IS THE ORDINANCES.
I'LL PUT HIM RIGHT HERE SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.
UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT THE SECOND ONE IS A GOOD
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COMMENT.WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA UNDER NEW CONSTRUCTION.
I THINK THE WAY IT'S WORKING AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU BRING IT IN ANYWHERE ON THE LOT.
I THINK CLEANING UP THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PHIL BROUGHT IN LIKE A RACE SLAB OR SOMETHING.
AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH THE FLOOD MAPS.
I, I DO HAVE SOME NOW'S TO SHOW THE GROUP, JUST TO SHOW WHAT THIS AREA LOOKS LIKE AND EXPLAIN KIND OF WHERE WE CAME UP WITH.
UM, THE THREE TO THE COMMENTS, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYONE ELSE.
I'M GOOD WEATHER, THE MOUNTAIN, NUMBER FOUR.
WE, UM, WE AGREE THAT IS UNDER ONE OF OUR EXEMPTIONS, POTHOLES, SOME FOOLS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, FILLING IN, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW THE CURIOUS TO BE SOLD WITHOUT TRIGGERING THIS ORDINANCE.
NUMBER FIVE, YOUR COMMENTS ON OUR, THE COASTAL RESILIENCE.
SO FOR THAT, I WILL SAY THAT WELL, OKAY.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE HE'S, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THE SENTENCE TALKS ABOUT HISTORIC SEA LEVEL RISE, THE REST TALKS ABOUT PROJECTIVES.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING IN THERE.
THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE BUILT OUT TO THIS OVERLAY IS THE CONCERN ABOUT FUTURE.
WELL, THAT MIGHT BE WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
IT MIGHT BE ENOUGH TO PUT IN THERE INSTEAD OF THE OTHER INFORMATION YOU MEAN? YEAH.
UM, UH, THAT THE, UH, THE, THE PURPOSE IS TO, UH, MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL OF SEE SEA LEVEL RISE IN THE FUTURE.
DO WE WANT TO WALK? SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AS A SEPARATE ORDINANCE HERE.
DO WE WANT TO WALK TO THAT REAL QUICK TO THE MEMBERS FEEL THAT THEY WANT SOME EXPLANATION, THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY? I THINK SO.
I CAN JUST SHARE THIS WITH YOU.
I THOUGHT I HAD IT ON THE I'M WORKING OFF MY LAPTOP HERE AND THAT JUST GIVE ME A STANCE.
I'VE NEVER QUITE SURE WHETHER I'M SHARING SOMETHING OR I'M UP A SEPARATE WINDOW.
SO STILL GETTING USED TO THIS, THIS WORD IS ACTUALLY VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UM, WE'RE T WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A, AN ORDINANCE THAT LIBS DEFINED THOSE AREAS THAT WE'RE SAYING ARE MUCH LOWER LINE.
THIS IS A SUBSET OF THAT 13 FEET CAUSE FOR THE FLOOD OR FOR THE FILL, OR, AND THAT'S KIND OF A, TALKING ABOUT A BROADER AREA WITH FLOODING.
THIS IS TRYING TO NARROW IN ON WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE GREATEST POTENTIAL FOR POSSIBLE TO FLOODING, BRING IT ON HIGH TIDES, A RISING SEA LEVEL.
AND THE SOLE PURPOSE OF THIS DISTRICT IS TO REQUIRE DISCLOSURE WHEN REAL ESTATE IS TRANSFERRED.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO ONE ASPECT OF OUR AIRPORT OVERLAY.
WE REQUIRE REAL ESTATE DISCLOSURE, JUST SO THAT IF A BUYER OR PROPERTY IS AWARE THAT THEY'RE DEALING FROM THE HANDLE LOW IN ELEVATION, IT'S AVON BILLABLE TODAY, BUT THEY MIGHT, YOU KNOW, CREATE CONDITIONS IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO THAT'S PRIMARILY THE PURPOSE HERE.
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OF 10 FEET, UM, AND LET'S SEE, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF IT IS JUST DEFINING HOW THE DISTRICT IS.YOU KNOW, IT'S 10 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL OR LESS, AND THE REST ARE BASICALLY, UM, DISCLOSURE STATEMENTS THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, DURING REAL ESTATE TRANSFER, UM, ON A PLAT, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S APPROVED BY ACCOUNTING, WE WOULD REQUIRE THAT TO BE ON THE PLANT ITSELF.
UM, SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THIS DISTRICT, UM, WHAT I HAD, IF THERE AREN'T ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, I'D LIKE TO SHARE NOW, UH, JUST SPLIT THESE AREAS TO LOOK LIKE IF THAT'S OKAY, IF THERE WASN'T ELSE.
ALL SEEING HIM HAVE TO BUFORD.
AND I REALIZED I JUST MADE A, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A MISTAKE HERE.
I HAVE PAPS AT NINE FEET, AND I THINK WHERE TUFTS TASKFORCE SETTLED ON WAS 10.
SO THE AREA MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY GREATER THAN, UM, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR DOWNTOWN BUFORD, THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVERLAY.
AND THIS LOOKS A LOT, LIKE I WOULD SAY THE KIND OF FLOODING THAT HAPPENS DURING IRMA, WHERE IT'S, IT'S AFFECTING A LOT OF POINTS, A WATERFRONT CLARK AND COMING IN TO SOME AREAS LIKE CARTERET'S STREET, UM, YOU KNOW, ALMOST DOWNTOWN BUFORD AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WELL ABOVE THE AREA.
THERE ARE SOME, SOME AREAS LIKE THE POINT ANOTHER AREA, WHEN YOU GO OUT THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND WHERE STREETS TO THE
UM, OUR FILL ORDINANCE WOULD HAVE A GREATER EXTENT, UM, THAT WOULD APPLY TO THE AREA PRIMARILY COVERED UNDER OUR CURRENT FLOOD MAPS.
SO A MUCH LARGER CHUNK OF DOWN, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN FOR DEPLOYMENT.
UM, IT IMPACTS AREAS OF BOUNDARY STREET.
YOU KNOW, THAT I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF ONE MAJOR POINT IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WAS THAT PALATE, ESPECIALLY OIL MAY WANT TO CHOOSE AREAS IF THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BOUNDARY STREET CORRIDOR IS A SCENARIO WHERE THE CITY IS TARGETING REDEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEY NEED TO WANT TO EXEMPT SOME OF THESE AREAS FROM THE FIELD THERE.
IF THEY SEE CROSS PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE THE GOAL OF REDEVELOPMENT, KIND OF SUPERSEDING THE GOAL OF CONTROLLING THE AMOUNT OF FILL, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WANT TO DEFINE THESE AREAS IS BEING EXEMPT FOR THE FIDDLE ORDINANCE.
THAT'S A MAJOR DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD DURING THE, UM, THE OTHER THING I DID, THIS IS THE CURRENT FLOOD MAP.
SO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA THAT THE, THE MAPPING IT AT THAT THIRD TEAM CONTOUR, MORE OR LESS CORRESPONDS WITH THE FODMAP, IF ANYTHING, IT'S BETTER TO FIND.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLOOD LINES ARE KIND OF A LITTLE CLAIM.
THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE FLOOD SOUND THAT WHEN YOU MAP CONTOUR, THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE OUT THERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABOVE, YOU KNOW, 13 FEET, WIDE MAPS ARE SHOWING THEM.
SO IT'S JUST ME GOING WITH THE CONTOUR IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST SEE AS ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE STATE OF FOX WITH THE FEMA MAPS,
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FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCORDANCE, YOU WOULD PREFER RATHER THAN RELYING ON SKIP GO AWAY.SO THAT'S KIND OF GIVEN, YOU KNOW, OUR THINKING TASKFORCE CAME UP WITH 13 FEET, WELL, GOING WITH THE CONTOURS IS LOGICAL IN MY MIND.
I THINK THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A LITTLE MORE STABLE.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO FALL BACK ON VERSUS PICKING A MAP WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY DID THE BEST JOB IN THE EIGHTIES, BUT WE HAVE MUCH BETTER WAYS OF MAPPING CONTOURS TODAY, YOU KNOW, WITH LIDAR.
WELL, IT'S MORE DEFINABLE FOR DEVELOPERS TO LOOK AT OR ANYBODY TO LOOK AT.
AND OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS IS A, THESE MAPS ARE AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW AREAS AFFECTED.
UM, BUT EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER WOULD THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE PROVIDING IN THEIR SURVEY WHAT, WHAT THE ELEVATION IS AND THAT THE SURVEYING TECHNIQUES ARE MUCH MORE EXACT THE INFORMATION WE'LL HAVE FOR LIDAR.
SO THIS IS A WAY OF US UNDERSTANDING THE AREAS IMPACTED, BUT IT'LL COME DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENTS, HAVING THEIR SURVEY, REALIZING I NEED THIS AMOUNT OF SUNIL WHEN I'M AT THIS ELEVATION, WHICH SHOULD TRIGGER THIS ORDINANCE.
AND I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF AN ASSURANCE THAT WE'RE NOT RELYING ON LIDAR TO TELL DEVELOPERS WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE RESTRICTED WITH THEIR FILL.
IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO THE SURVEY PROPERTY.
BUT THIS IS TODAY TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE LARGE AREA AND SEE MORE OR LESS WHICH AREAS.
UM, I HAVE SIMILAR MAPS LIKE THIS FOR LADIES STYLE AND PORT ROYAL.
AND I CAN RUN THROUGH REAL QUICK.
AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS ME TO STOP AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE OVER THE FENCE WITH MR. CHAIRMAN, WE ASK THE QUESTION HERE.
IS THAT A YES? AND THAT'S A YES.
ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVEN'T HEARD MENTIONED ORDINANCE FOR MAY OR MAY NOT APPLY TO IS A COMMON PROBLEM FOR ALL OF US ON COUNCIL.
AND THAT IS WHEN INFIELD TAKES PLACE.
I SAY INFIELD NORMALLY HOUSES IT FAIRLY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER THERE'S PLACE.
AND THE NEW BUILDING IS ELEVATED AT ALL.
ALL THAT DOES IS CREATE A RUNOFF TO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT OR NOT, BUT I CAN TAKE YOU SAMPLE SAMPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND LADIES, THIS IS WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
AND ANYTHING I CAN DO TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
AND THEY SAY, WELL, I THINK THE CLIENTS, THE BUILDING PERMIT ANY INFLUENCE ON THEIR PROBLEM, GET A LITTLE LESS THAN THE PROBLEM, BECAUSE IT WILL LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF FILL THAT SOMEBODY BEARING ON A PROPERTY, WHAT THIS DOES NOT ADDRESS.
AND I THINK I KNOW WHICH SITUATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, A LADY SILENCE THAT IS ACTUALLY 20 FEET OR SO ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
WHAT WE'RE I SPOKE WITH, UM, UH, ESCAPES ME, UH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND ALSO KATIE ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
AND WE ACTUALLY FELT THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS KINDA GET BUILDING CODES, PLANNING, STORMWATER TOGETHER TO REALLY DO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS BAD COMMUNICATION.
WHAT IS CHANGES IN ORDINANCES KIND OF ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION.
I'M HOPING THAT THIS WILL LESSEN IMPACT BECAUSE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FILL THAT SOMEBODY COULD BRING INTO THE CHAT BOT.
EITHER SPEAKING FROM THE CONTRACTOR SAYING, WE WASTED, MADE A DRAINAGE PLAN WHERE WE HAVE TO HOLD THE WATER ON, BUT THERE ARE AREAS OUT HERE ON LADY'S ISLAND WHERE THEY NEEDED IT.
THERE WASN'T A REGIONAL DRAINAGE PLAN.
SO WHAT'S THE ORDER GOT OUT IN THE
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COMMUNITY.IT DIDN'T GO OUT
THIS IS A SHOW IN THE COASTAL RESILIENCE OVER, LET ME I'M ON LANEY SIDE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LOW LYING AREAS ARE KIND OF WHAT WE SUSPECT.
ONCE YOU GET PIECE OF LADY'S ISLAND DRIVE, YOU KNOW, THE SUBDIVISIONS ALONG GAY DRIVE, WE KNOW THEY'RE LOW IN ELEVATION.
A LOT OF THEM, I THINK, FUNDED TORI NEUROMA, CRYSTAL LAKE, UM, THE AIRPORTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WALMART, EVERYTHING GOING SEVERITY IS VERY LOW IN ELEVATION.
SO ALL OF THAT WOULD BE TRIGGERED BY THE CLOSE RESILIENCE OVERLAY.
UM, AND THEN ESPECIALLY THE FILL ORDINANCE, BE MORE AREAS ARE IMPACTED.
UM, UM, AND THIS IS JUST SHOWING IN COMPARISON OF THIS IS THE EXISTING FEMA FLOOD MAP.
UM, AND SO IT'S MORE OR LESS CORRESPONDS, BUT THERE'S A MUCH MORE LEVEL OF ACCURACY.
AS FAR AS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT 13, LOOKS LIKE MAPS VERSUS WHAT'S FUN, FORT ROYAL, UH, COASTAL RESILIENCE, OVERLAY AREAS OF THE TOWN IN TEXAS, A FEW RESIDENTIAL AREAS, BUT PRIMARILY PARTS OF THE PORT PROPERTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE 10, BECAUSE ACTUALLY ONCE YOU GET ABOVE A 10TH OR 11TH STREET IS, IS FAIRLY HIGH
UM, THE BILL ORDINANCE WOULD IMPACT SOME ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT, UM, NOT MUCH IN THE WAY OF AREAS WHERE THERE WOULD BE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PORT.
AND SO ONCE AGAIN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AREAS TO EXEMPT FOR OF REDEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT THE TOWN MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THE COURT PROPERTY.
CAUSE THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN AREA WHERE THEY'RE CHARGING FREE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON 13 FOOT CONTRACT OR IN THE EXISTING FLOOD NOW.
SO THERE'S A FEW AREAS TO DERAILING THE DROUGHTS.
AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHANGING FLOOD PLAIN BOUNDARIES.
I'M JUST SHOWING YOU HOW THE TWO CORRESPOND, UM, AND AT ONE FINE, NO AREAS, JUST LOOKING AT PRIMARILY THE MAZZUCA COMMUNITY,
UM, IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND PARACETAMOL AND GATEWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE ARE LOW LINE AND THEY HAVE TO THE SWELL.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FILL ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, GREATER AMOUNT OF LAMPS IS AFFECTED BY THIS.
THIS IS WHERE IT WOULD BEGIN TO IMPACT IF THERE WERE NO REDEVELOPMENT, LET'S SAY IN THAT TOP CORNER, ALONG WHAT ROBERT SOULS PARKWAY AND SOMEBODY WANTED TO BRING A LOT OF FILL TO BRING DOWN.
I THINK THAT'S THE, THE, THAT'S THE GRAY FAMILY PROPERTY.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CHANCES ARE THAT WE CAN'T REACH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO DEPORT STILL IN ORDER TO READ THEM, ORDER THEM, YOU KNOW, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DEFINITELY IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE IMPACTED CROSS CREEK SHOPPING SELLER.
UM, SO JUST KIND OF SHOWS YOU ALSO AREAS.
SO I'M PARASITE AND GATEWAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE CROSSING MARS THROUGH A SERIES OF VERY LOW LYING AND PHIL ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS HARRISON OF WHERE THAT 13 FOOT CONTOUR IS AND WHERE THE FLOOD MAP.
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OF INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HUGE AREA YOLKS.IT SEEMS TO BE OUT FOR US, BUT WITH THE FLOOD MAP, WE WERE ALL IN SIMILAR SCIENCE AND, YOU KNOW, CAN CAN HELP REPEAT, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO HOP OFF HERE TO GO TO THE MEETINGS.
THIS DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE AND LIKE NOT LETTING YOU ALL KNOW WHERE I'M HEADED.
SO ANYWAY, I THINK, I THINK LAST YEAR SOMERVILLE IS GOING TO HAVE TO EXIT OUT IN A FEW MINUTES.
Y'ALL TAKE CARE, BUT THAT'S ALL I'M WILLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, PRETTY INFORMATIVE THERE, ROB.
WELL, HOW DID THIS YEAH, WHAT'S THE PROCESS FORWARD? WELL, I WOULD LIKE, OKAY, SO ASSUMING, AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY COMES UP TO WHAT THIS BOARD WANTS TO DO.
IF WE DECIDE TO THAT, WE WEREN'T HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING AND WANTING TO DO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE NORTHERN PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE.
UM, WE THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE A GOOD SPRINGBOARD TO THE LOCAL, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL TO INDIVIDUAL TRACKS.
THAT'S HAVE A PORT ROYAL, THE CITY COUNTY.
UM, SO WE SEE THAT REGIONAL IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE IS A GOOD NEXT STEP.
IF EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE, A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS ON THAT BOARD, THERE MAY LEAVE THE GREEN LIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT IT TO EACH LOCAL.
IF THE SAME TIME WE WANT TO PRESENT THIS TO SO LOCAL IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, WE'VE HAD THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THE TOWN AS WELL.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO CONSIDER THIS PARTICULAR, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE UP TO DOWN CLOSE TO WHERE, ESPECIALLY AREAS WHERE THEY'RE SEEING IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE AREA IMPACTED BY THESE TWO ORDINANCES.
WELL, SO, BUT I THINK THIS BOARD CHAIRMAN, I THINK THIS BOARD AUDIT TAKE UP, TAKE SOME TIME TO REVIEW THE COMMENTS.
LET'S GET SOME MORE COMMENTS AND SEE WHAT THE COMMITTEE CAN DO TO MODIFY THIS OR CLARIFY SOME ISSUES AND THEN TRY TO GET THIS OUT OF OUR COMMITTEE BY THE NEXT MEETING.
SO WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD CHAMBER AND OTHER HOME BUILDERS WHO WILL HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THIS.
SO I THINK WE NEED GROUPS NOW WE'VE DONE A FINE WHAT ORDINANCE TO WORK ON.
SO EVERYBODY ENJOY A DECISION OR RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE, TAKE THIS TIME BETWEEN THIS MEETING AND THE NEXT ONE TO REVIEW THE COORDINATES, TO GET THE COMMENTS IN FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN LET ROB GIVE ROBIN THE COMMITTEE SOME TIME TO MODIFY IT A LITTLE BIT OR CLARIFY AND GO GET IT OUT OF OUR COMMITTEE SO THEY CAN TAKE IT ON BACK THE ROAD.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WHERE WAS THE COMMENTS, UH, GO, UH, AS A POINT OF CONTACT, I THINK THEY SHOULD GO TO ROB, BUT SIMPLY MAY, IF YOU WANT, I'LL GET THEM OUT.
I'M KIND OF, I'M GETTING A LOT OF HEAT FROM HOME BUILDERS ON IT AND, AND OTHER GROUPS DEVELOPERS.
SO I CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THEM, BUT, UH, ROB CAN, I DON'T WANT TO LOAD UP ROB WITH STUFF SO YOU CAN SEND TO ME IF YOU WANT.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL CLARIFY HAVING COME BACK OUT.
HOW, HOW ARE THE COMMENTS GOING TO BE ARBITRATED ARE THEY ALL GOING TO BE PUT BEFORE THIS BOARD AND DECIDED WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE, UH, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ROB MIGHT TAKE A BANNER AT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT HE THINKS IS AN ARBITER OF, OF
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THE COMMENTS? WHAT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED? OR HOW CAN I BE DONE? CAN I ASK A QUESTION ALSO ABOUT THIS? THE COMMENTING IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME TO BE DISTRIBUTING AND COLLECTING COMMENTS? IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE A LITTLE, UM, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE AHEAD OF OURSELVES.I THOUGHT THAT LIKE IF I THOUGHT THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO AGREE ON THE LANGUAGE AND THEN MOVE THAT FORWARD, AND THEN ONCE IT'S BEFORE A BODY THAT ACTUALLY RECEIVES PUBLIC COMMENTS, THAT WOULD BE A MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS AND COMMENTS ABOUT THE, THE LANGUAGE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ROB? SOME OF IT CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY, RIGHT? I TEND TO ANSWER JESSE'S QUESTION.
I ACTUALLY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE VETTING THESE, GETTING THESE COMMENTS NOW AND BEING ABLE TO GO TO COUNCIL OR, YOU KNOW, IS THIS GOES FORWARD TO THE ADOPTION PROCESS OR EVEN THE NORTHERN IMPLEMENTATION.
YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED INPUT FROM ALL THESE GROUPS, WE ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND THEN WE'LL FORWARD.
UM, I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THEM AT SOME POINT ANYWAY, AND IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET MOST OF THEM BEHIND US TO MAKE THE MODIFICATIONS NECESSARY, WE HAVE MORE OF A CHANCE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL JURISDICTION ADOPTING THE SAME ORDINANCE RATHER THAN HAVING DIFFERENT RESPONSES, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COMMENTS, DIFFERENT RESPONSES HAPPENING IN EACH LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH ROB, I THINK THIS, UH, UH, THIS BOARD NEEDS TO, UH, UH, REALLY BE, UH, THE BOARD OF THAT GROUP.
DOES THOSE REVIEWS NOW, UH, SENDING IT ON TO THE, UH, NORTHERN REGIONAL, UH, WE MIGHT PUT IN ALL OF OUR SUGGESTIONS AND THEN IF ROB WANTS TO, WE COULD HAVE A, UM, A SECOND DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMENTS WERE THAT WERE EITHER NOT RESPONDED TO, OR WERE MODIFIED IN SOME WAY TO GET TO, UH, THE RESULT THAT THIS COMMITTEE WOULD PUT FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD ACTUALLY, IT WOULD BE AN IDEAL SITUATION.
I'D BE COMING BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING WITH THE REVISED DOCUMENT AND THEN GOING THROUGH HOW I'VE ADDRESSED EACH OF THE COMMENTS AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE MADE IT STAFF LEVEL, THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
WE THINK THAT THAT'S ADDRESSED HERE OR THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO TAKE THIS STEP, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY WELFARE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY COMMENT MAY BE ADDRESSED.
WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY, HERE'S THE CHANGES WE MADE.
HERE'S WHAT WE FEEL THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO STICK WITH OUR ORIGINAL VERSION.
YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HAVING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A FEW MEMBERS OF THE SPORTS, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT MIDWAY BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MAYBE KIND OF HAVE A MEETING WITH STAFF AND KIND OF ALL DISCUSS HERE'S HOW HERE'S THE COMMENTS HERE WAS, HERE'S THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING.
SO THAT WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
NOW MY, MY DARE ON IT WAS TO GO AHEAD AND, AND GET THE COMMENTS.
THE BIG ONES ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? LAND RIGHTS GUY, THE HOME BUILDERS, THE DEVELOPERS, AND A LOT OF BUSINESSMEN THAT'S WHO, WHO ARE MAKING THESE COMMENTS BY THE WAY, LET THEM GET TO YOU MODIFY, ADDRESS IT ADMINISTRATIVELY, BRING IT BACK TO US.
SO WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT CLEANER THAT WE CAN TAKE UP THERE.
AND A LOT OF EXCHANGES, THE DISCOUNT BE TAX CHANGES AND STUFF, AND THAT KIND OF CHANGE THE RAIL.
SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SEND IT OUT TO RELEVANT.
THEY'RE GOING TO FIGHT YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, MAKE THE BLOW FROM THE LAZIER AND GET READY FOR IT OR WHATEVER WE NEED
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TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.I THINK A LOT OF THE COMPETENCIES WERE REALLY HELPFUL.
THE LAST THING WE WANT TO BE GETTING IS LOCAL LEVEL WITH THE GOVERNMENT, GET INVOLVED IN THE CASES WHERE SOMEBODY HAS SEEN FLOW IN OUR PROPERTY.
THEY CAN'T FILL, OR BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THE ORDINANCES YOU CAN'T TELL THEM, THESE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO GET BEHIND US BECAUSE THOSE MAKE OUR, MAKE OUR JOB MISERABLE.
HE DOESN'T WORK KINDS OF SITUATIONS CANNOT.
SO I THINK THAT MOST OF THE COMMENTS I THINK ARE, YOU KNOW, CULTURE WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED, OR I THINK THAT THEY SHINE THE LIGHT TO AN AREA WHERE THERE'S UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING AS STAFF WE WANT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH.
UM, AND THEN SOME OF THEM, WE MAY AGREE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE CONCLUSION WE'LL THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WOULD YOU WANT TO HAVE A SUBSET OF THIS COMMITTEE? YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN CALL IT TWO WEEKS ON TWO RECEIVED IN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IRONED OUT WITH STAFF.
WE WANNA, WE WANT TO ADDRESS TO THEM.
THAT'S KINDA HOW WE DID THIS, THE SEPTIC TANK ORDINANCE.
AND I THINK, UM, MAYBE ONCE THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE THINK JESSE, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.
I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE.
YOU WANT US TO DO THAT, ROB AND JUST COORDINATE IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS SO WE CAN GET EVERYTHING UP BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING? YEAH.
I GUESS I'LL BE RELYING ON YOU TO GET THE WORD OUT AND GET PEOPLE.
THE DEVELOPERS GET THE SENTENCES.
I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF SIMILARITIES.
I THINK THAT THEIR MAIN CONCERNS ARE, WHY ARE YOU CHOOSING THIS FOUNDATION? WHY IS IT DIFFERENT FROM THE FEMA, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH SAFEGUARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, I GUESS, GIVING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SITUATIONS LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT KEEPING SOMEBODY FROM PLANTING THEIR TOMATO GARDEN, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, SO ONCE WE GET THIS COMMON SAMPLE AND WE COME UP WITH A RESPONSE, I THINK WE CAN, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE TALKING ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE, I PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE ALAN PATTERSON, LIKE THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE REPRESENTED, SO THAT WE'RE KIND OF HEARING, I WOULD SAY A BALANCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE INTERESTS OF THE HOME BUILDERS AND THE ORIGINAL OFFENSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT WITH.
I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I THINK JUST, AND I'M STILL, UM, CATCHING UP, PICK ME UP FROM JULIANA.
SO I PERSONALLY WOULD FIND THAT VERY HELPFUL AS WELL, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT, ALAN.
AND UH, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT SMOOTH SAILING TO GET IT ON THESE OTHER COMMITTEES.
I KNOW, I KNOW THESE PEOPLE, SOME OF THEM ARE REASONABLE.
SOME OF THEM, YES, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK THROUGH IT AND THEN PROBABLY COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S OKAY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO ASK ROB, WHEN DO YOU THINK WE CAN START UP THE MEETINGS AGAIN? I ACTUALLY, I THINK I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING LATER THIS MONTH.
I NEED TO TALK WITH, WITH ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED THAT WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF A BACKLOG OF THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT I THINK DEMANDS, AT LEAST I'M KIND OF GIVING A STATUS REPORT BECAUSE THEY AFFECT REGIONAL LEADER.
WE HAVE A BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN TASK FORCE.
WE HAVE THE WORK OF THE, UM, C PRIZE, UM, UH, TASK FORCE.
WE HAVE THE GREEN PRINT PROCESS GOING ON.
WE'VE GOT THE COUNTIES CONFERENCE,
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A PLAN.SO WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON, BUT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE REGIONAL PATHS.
I WOULD SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE GET STARTED.
ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEES ARE UP AND RUNNING.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET STARTED BEFORE WE'RE HAVING A PLAY TOO MUCH CATCH UP.
SO JESSE AND I WILL BE MEETING WITH, YOU CAN SEND THE COMMENTS OVER TO US AND WE'LL TRY TO GET IT TOGETHER SO YOU CAN DO SOME AMENDMENTS AND EIGHT, NINE, ANY PROBLEMS WE SEE IN THE, OKAY.
I MEAN, IN ALL TRANSPARENCY, I MEAN, IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, TO OUR COMMENTS, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE BOARD, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT OUR THINKING WAS.
IT'LL BE THIS, THIS BOARD'S DECISION.
ANY, ANY AMENDMENTS TO THESE TWO ORDINANCES.
WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE LADY, LADIES ALLEN VILLAGE CENTER PLAN, CHUCK, THE CHAIRMAN I'D LIKE TO NOW DEVELOP THAT OR BETTER PLAN IS PARAMOUNT TO DEVELOP HIS ISLAND ALONG WITH SOME OF THE ZONING HARMONIZATION.
IT'S GOING TO READ THE PAGE AROUND WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT, SEE WHAT OCCASIONS MIGHT BE NECESSARY TO MAKE IT.
WE ARE GOING TO BLEND IN WITH OUR LADY'S ISLAND PLAN.
SO I WANT TO GET PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE ON IT.
I'M THE VICE CHAIRMAN, THE HEAD WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT THAT COULD BE ON IT, BUT I WANT Y'ALL TO PUT IN ANYBODY YOU WANT, WE ONLY WANT THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE THAT DO THE PLAN, BUT SOMEONE FROM COASTAL CONSERVATION LADY AND ANY OTHER MEMBERS THAT WE MAY HAVE.
SO IF YOU CAN DO THAT, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE.
I KNOW THAT CHUCK'S PUT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE UP THERE.
Y'ALL WILL SEND THAT IN TO ME.
MIKE TOLD ME IT'S HEADED UP TOGETHER.
WAS THAT USING NIKKI? IT WAS A, IT WAS A COMBINATION OF A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, I, I DID A LOT OF THE WRITING, BUT IT WAS, UH, USING A LOT OF INFORMATION, UH, PIECES, UH, THROUGH OUR, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS, UH, TO GET TO THE POINT THAT WE HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND I BELIEVE ROBBED AS THE CURRENT VERSION OF THAT AS WELL AS AIR.
AND IT WAS ACTUALLY PUT FORWARD.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS COMMITTEE IS TO MOVE FORWARD A LITTLE BIT FARTHER THAN THAT, AND ACTUALLY PUT SOME PLANNING, UH, INTO, UH, INTO PLACE, UH, THAT PRIZED TO CARRY.
IT WAS THE NEXT STEP PAST WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, LIKE AN OVERLAKE YESTERDAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT MAY BE THAT IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THE DECISION AS TO WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO, UH, MOVE IT FORWARD IS, UH, RATHER THAN LETTING IT STAY DORMANT, I WOULD LIKE TO BE A MEMBER OF THAT GROUP.
AND I'D LIKE TO JOIN IF I'M PERMITTED TO JOIN AS WELL, BUT LET'S SAY WE'VE GOT SHOTGUN AND JESSE, AND THEN I'D LIKE, AND JASON, I LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE VOLUNTEERING AND YOU'RE A BUILDER AND A DEVELOPER.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET TASKED ON DOING SOME OF THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO OVER WORK, ROB, CAUSE HE'S GOT, GET THIS COMP PLAN THROUGH
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THIS CRAZY ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE NET TRAFFIC STUDY WE HAVE HERE.I TAKE, I'LL BE AVAILABLE IF I HAVE TIME AND I NEED TO BE HERE.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMEDIAN.
I THINK THAT, UH, OUGHT TO GET US GOING.
UH, DAVID IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED WITH IT AND, UH, HE IS, UH, OFFERED UP A, UH, AREA THAT WE CAN MEET IN THE, AT THE SPEED AND LEAVE OUR DOCUMENTS OUT ON TABLES WHILE WE'RE DOING OUR WORK EFFORT THERE IN THE CITY.
IS THAT, IS THAT DAVID? IS THAT THE CITY OF VERNON? YES, THAT'S US.
WELL, I THINK I KNOW THE CITY HAS BEEN HONEST TO GET THE FLOOD ORDER.
SO WE'RE DOING THAT AND WAIT THROUGH THE, THE GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WASN'T BEING APPROPRIATELY.
WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION EARLIER THIS MORNING.
YOU AND I DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THIS LADY'S ISLAND ZONING ISSUE AS A SEPARATE ITEM OR THE CONTEXT OF COUNTY TOWN CENTER PLAN, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY LET'S LOOK AT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THE VILLAGE.
RIGHT? AND WE'LL TALK TO DAVID AND ROBIN, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, I MEAN, PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THIS WAS ISLAND IMPLEMENTATION.
EXERCISE THING COMES UP TO A POINT AND THAT POINT IS THAT ROB WORKMAN'S FRONT DOOR, HE HAS ALL THE WORKS OF ALL THE CRAZY IDEAS THAT ARE BIG COMES UP, BUT ON THE ZONING ISSUE, THE ZONING REVIEW, I TAKE THE INITIATIVE ON A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO SERVE AS A WORKING GROUP ON IT.
THOSE PEOPLE, UM, SUSAN POSNER IS ONE, SHE'S A RESIDENT, BUT SHE'S THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE IOWA MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION.
KATE SCHAFFER HEAD OF THE SOUTH COAST OFFICE FOR COASTAL CONSERVATION HAS BEEN PART OF THE LADY'S ISLAND INITIATIVE SINCE DAY ONE, LAUREN KELLY CHIME IN, UM, AS WELL, IF WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER, UM, HER TIME SO THAT WE CAN CALL UP PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON SOME OF THE WORK.
SO IT DOESN'T ALL END UP AT ROB'S OFFICE.
IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO PEOPLE, 35 LADIES ISLAND, PLENTY OF COUNSELING.
AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT JUST DOING THE COUNSELING ALONE, THEY'RE SORT OF IGNORED OR SUBURBAN AND SO FORTH FOR THAT MATTER.
UM, AND I THINK THOSE ARE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED.
THEY WILL PAY LONG PROCESS, I THINK, DEPENDING ON THE ZONING, BUT ALL THE PATIENTS WE START, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT A YEAR AGO.
WELL, THAT'S REALLY GOOD ABOUT PUTTING A COMMITTEE TOGETHER JUST TO HELP WITH THE ZONING AND THEN COME UP WITH A SUGGESTION AND DAVID CAN LOOK AT IT.
THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SAY IT AGAIN.
WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE THAT COULD HELP
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INTEGRATE IT WITH WORK THAT MIGHT WANT TO DO ON THE TOWNSHIP PARALLEL? WELL, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM GOING PARALLEL.I DO THINK IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WAS FRONT AND CENTER, BUT I THINK STAFF, I DO THINK COUNTY STAFF AND CITY STAFF GOT THEIR HANDS FULL RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.
I HEARD FROM DAVE, I HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH BOTH, BOTH OF THEM AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE GENERALLY GENERAL ACCEPTANCE, PLUS YOU YOU'VE CHANGED YOUR MIND, DAVID SMILE.
WHEN YOU SAY, I AGREE WHETHER THIS BOARD DOES IT OR HELPS WITH IT, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE UPDATING OUR COMP PLAN AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ZONING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT ANYWAY, BUT BE GREAT IF YOU KNOW THOSE, THE LITHIC HELPS US WITH IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? MAYBE WE MIGHT PUT A LITTLE MORE BALANCE IN THERE, BUT ONE MORE PERSON JOIN IN ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER.
I DON'T THINK ALEX IS REALLY THE ISSUE.
I THINK WE'VE GOT THE, WE'VE GOT THE BASIS FOR IT IN THE LADY'S ISLAND PLAN.
I THINK IT'S JUST A QUESTION ACCOMMODATING THE LADY LADY'S ISLAND PLAYING WITH HIM IN THE COUNTY.
AND AS DAVID SAID, THEY'RE MOVING.
UM, THEY WOULD GO FIX THAT GROUP.
I SAID I WAS ONLY HEARING A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE BOWLS ON HERE FROM THE LADY'S ISLAND.
TALK TO THESE INDIVIDUALS TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO BE IN.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, I WOULD PUT THEIR NAMES FORWARD AND I HAVEN'T TALKED TO THEM.
THEY'RE ALL WILLING TO SERVE GOD.
HOWEVER, WANT TO COME TO EVERY MEETING OF THE IMPLICATION, WHAT TO EXPECT THAT EAT UP TOO MUCH TIME.
SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD? WE JUST NEED TO GET IT IN THE MAIL.
THE IDEA, ROB, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SETTING UP A, LIKE A SEPARATE COMMITTEE.
MAYBE I COULD SUGGEST THAT WE ALREADY HAVE A COMMITTEE SET UP TO MOVE FORWARD.
W I THINK WITH THE, UH, UH, LADIES ISLAND OR WITH THE VILLAGE CENTER PLANT, UH, WHY DON'T WE LET THIS ZONING KINDA GROW OUT OF THAT? CAUSE, CAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AS WELL.
SO WHY DON'T YOU LET THIS COMMITTEE, UH, KIND OF SORT THROUGH THAT AT OUR FIRST MEETING AND THEN TALK ABOUT ADDING, UH, IF WE NEED TO ADD SOME PEOPLE TO IT AND WHO THAT MIGHT BE TO, TO BE HELPFUL TO IT, OR IF IT NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE STANDING.
I HATE TO SEE ALL THESE COMMITTEES THAT HAVE TO INTERRELATE WHEN YOU GOT, UH, ONE COMMITTEE THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THAT STUFF ALREADY.
I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE, MIKE.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I SAW IT OPERATING BASICALLY INSTEAD OF A WORKING GROUP, IF YOU WILL, THE TOWN CENTER BYE.
AND SO MUCH OF THIS HAS TO BE COORDINATED WITH THE COUNTY MASTER PLAN, THE CITY MASTER PLAN, AS WELL AS, UH, TRAFFIC AND, UH, PATHWAYS AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
SO THIS COMMITTEE HAS GOT TO BE IN COORDINATION WITH MULTIPLE KINDS OF TEAS FROM THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
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I THINK I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT WAY FORWARD.
ALRIGHT, SO, SO THAT'S HOW WE'LL SET IT.
WELL, IF I TAKE SOME MOTION, I WILL MOVE THAT WE ESTABLISH ZONING REVIEW TOWN CENTER, WORKING GROUP FOR A RESOLUTION.
ALL OF THOSE SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR.
IT LOOKS GOOD FOR YOU, NOT IN FEBRUARY.
AND CAN I ASK A PROCESS QUESTION? IS THE TOWN CENTER WORKING GROUP? UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT IT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
IS THERE A SEPARATE, UM, EMAIL, LIKE EMAIL CHAIN DISTRIBUTION FOR THAT? OR IS IT NO, NOT THAT I KNOW OF, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT ONE TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE KATE, SUSAN AND WARREN, AND THEN JESSE AND MIKE, TELL ME, AND I'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE IF HE'S ON THE TOWN CENTER.
AND WHO ELSE WAS ON? THERE WE GO.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'LL BE OUR DISTRIBUTION ON THAT, JASON FOR THAT AS WELL.
THE SECOND GROUP WILL BE FOR SUSAN KARSNER AND MAYBE OTHERS.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS? COULD I MAKE ONE REQUEST? UM, ROB, WOULD YOU MIND, I KNOW YOU SENT IT OUT A HUNDRED TIMES, BUT WOULD YOU MIND JUST EMAILING THE COMMITTEE THE MOST, THE MOST RECENT VERSION OF BOTH THE, THE ORDINANCE AND THE OVERLAY? YES.
AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE, THE, UM, YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL, I THINK LAST WEEK FROM DIANE MCMASTER, FROM OUR OFFICE, THAT'S WHERE THAT WAS INCLUDED THAT THE AGENDA PLUS THERE'S TWO ITEMS AND I CAN SEND THEM, THEY WERE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.
SO THE AGENDA PAGE ONE WAS THE AGENDA AND THEN TWO AND THREE WERE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ORDINANCES.
JUST SAYING, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK FOR IT IN THE MEANTIME, THAT'S WHERE IT IS.
YEAH, I GET NOW ROB, I'M SORRY TO MAKE THAT.
I WAS JUST, SO IT'S A WAY WE DO THINGS TO COUNTY WHERE WE PUT SUPPORTING MATERIALS IN THE SAME PDF AS THE AGENDA.
AND SOMETIMES IT GETS CONFUSING.
OH, IS THAT THE PROBLEM IS OUR PROBLEM.
WE WISH ANY OTHER BUSINESS SHARED GENTLEMEN, LADIES, ALL RIGHT.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK AHEAD AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO SEE RESULTS.
I GET ASKED THAT EVERY DAY, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET DONE? SO THAT'S THE MORE CARE WE NEED TO TRY TO GET BACK TO WORK AFTER THIS VIRUS THING.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT SOFTLY HARD.
THANKS FOR COMING ON BOARD AND VOLUNTEERING, JESSE, YOU'RE GOING TO JUMP IN WITH BOTH FEET.
I HOPE WE DON'T WORK DUE TO OUR THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALL OF YOU.