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[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

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RESOURCE COMMITTEE SPECIAL MEETING IN ACCORDANCE THIS MEETING'S BEEN HELD IN ACCORDANCE WITH A FOUR COUNTY RESOLUTION TWENTY TWENTY DASH ZERO FIVE.

WE WILL RISE NOW FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBER JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU.

I WILL ASK MISS BROCK WAS PUBLIC NOTIFICATION THIS MEETING PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SOUTH KOREA ON FREEDOM OF INFORMATION?

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

IT WAS. THANK YOU. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. SO I WAS LIKE ALL RIGHT, IT WAS WITHOUT OBJECTION.

THAT WAS COUNCILMAN COVER AND THEN COUNCILMAN WELLING. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT. WITHOUT OBJECTION. WELL, ASK THAT THE AGENDA IS APPROVED AT THIS TIME. HOW YOU YOUR SHOULD TAKE ATTENDANCE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A QUORUM. OH YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. MUST TAKE ATTENDANCE. VISE CHAIRMAN GERALD DAWSON IS HERE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO THROUGH THE LIST.

CHAIRMAN JOE PASSIM IN COUNCILMAN GATLIN, COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE, COUNCILMAN COVER COUNCILMAN FOR WELLING I'M HERE. COUNCILMAN RODMAN AND COUNCILMAN GLOVER HERE. DID I MISS ANY. COUNCIL MEMBERS? I DON'T THINK SO. SO HOW MANY DO WE HAVE MISS BROUGHT?

WE HAVE WARM YES, MA'AM. >> YOU DO. YOU'RE REALLY MISSING MR.

[5. PURSUANT TO SC CODE SECTION 30-4-70(A)(2) (2) “DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND …, THE RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE WHERE THE LEGAL ADVICE RELATES TO A PENDING, THREATENED, OR POTENTIAL CLAIM OR OTHER MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.” ]

HIRSCHHORN FROM YOUR COMMITTEE, OK. ALL RIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

PRESS ONE IT TOOK THE SOUTH CAROLINA CODE SECTION 30 DASH FOR DASH 70 A TWO TO DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSE CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND THE RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE OR LEGAL ADVICE RELATES TO A PENDING THREATENED OR POTENTIAL CLAIM OR OTHER

MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE. >> SO MOVE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, I THIS MOTION BY COUNSEL SWELLING HERE A SECOND I WILL BE GLAD TO SECOND THAT WITHOUT ACTION. WE WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

YEAH. NO, IT SHOULD BE KINETIC SHOULD BE KEPT AS CONFIDENTIAL RIGHT

[6. MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION ]

NOW. >> WE'RE WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE BACK IN OPEN SESSION AND WE DO MATTERS ARISING OUT OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO I HEAR A MOTION FROM

COUNSEL? >> YES, MA'AM. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF PROCEED TO BRING THE PROPOSAL FOR AN ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR THE GRAVES PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT AT PEPPER HALL. ACCORDING TO THE OUTLINE PROPOSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'LL SEE YOU GUYS LATER.

OKAY. >> COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE SECOND .

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. THE PERSON WHO MADE THE MOTION.

PROSECUTOR HAS DISCRETION DISCUSSION. YES, ABSOLUTELY DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION.

DID YOU RAISE OUR HAND? ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN RODMAN, I BELIEVE THAT EVEN ALL OF IT MAY

BE SPLIT DIFFERENTLY. >> I BELIEVE THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT HAS TO BE PART OF THE

MOTION TO I WOULD I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. >> I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE LEAVING THAT SCHOOL OPEN AND THEN I'D LIKE SOME NUMBERS IN THERE.

OUR COUNSEL HAS ADVISED NOT TO DO THAT BUT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR AND I THINK IT WOULD WOULD COMPROMISE THE POSITION OUR NEGOTIATING POSITION.

>> YES. YES IT WOULD. OKAY.

WELL, YES. COUNCILMAN COVER IF WE'RE NOT THAT KIND OF BOTHERS ME.

>> WELL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT. THAT IS A PART OF IT.

WHEN ARE WE BOUND TO SEE ANY FIGURES? WELL, EVEN KNOW THERE MAY BE

SOME OTHER WAYS IN THIS BACK. OR HOW DOES IT WORK? >> THIS IS I CONSIDER IT EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHEN WE DISCUSSED SETTLING A LAWSUIT AND EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THE TYPICAL MOTION IS DIRECT STAFF TO SETTLE THE MATTER AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION

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SO I CONSIDER IT TO BE THE SAME THING. WE UNDERSTAND IT WAS DISCUSSED.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS. >> WE WORK WITH THAT.

WHAT I WHAT I CAN DO IS THAT STAFF WILL BRING BRING FORWARD THE PROPOSAL THAT WE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN WILL BRING BACK ANY COUNTER TO THAT.

IF IT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO THEM, CORRECT. WE'LL MAKE A DECISION THAT SAME THING AS THE SAME THING AS THERE'S A SETTLEMENT DISCUSSION THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT

PRECISELY AS DISCUSSED. >> BUT WE UNDERSTAND. OK.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? WELL, YEAH, I GUESS MAYBE I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. IF IF THE NUMBERS AREN'T GOING TO BE PART OF THE MOTION, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO THAT LOOK UNTIL AFTER THE FACT WHICH I THINK IS

RATHER IMPORTANT. >> WEEK THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS PRESENTED.

>> WE HAVE WILL WE GET A COPY OF IT? I HAVE NOTES.

THAT'S WHAT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH. AND SO IT'S MY NOTES, MY MEMORY AND THE MEMORY FOR ALL THE PERSONS IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS . SO THIS ISN'T THE FINAL VOTE ON THE MATTER.

OF COURSE NOTE I'M PUTTING UP A PROPOSAL THAT FOR CONSIDER RIGHT BEFORE COUNSEL NOW IS ACTUALLY SECOND READING OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PLUS STARTING THE TRIGGER ON THE PUBLIC NOTICES THAT THEY HAVE TO BE MADE FOR CREATION OF AN ASSESSMENT

DISTRICT. >> THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE ON THE SEPTEMBER 14TH MEETING FOR SECOND READING AND THAT WE WILL WORK WITHIN THAT CONTEXT TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND CORRECT ME IF I'M NOT WRONG BETWEEN THAT TIME AND THE 14TH IS WHEN DISCUSSIONS WILL BE

HELD. >> ABSOLUTELY. YES.

OK. OTHER COMMENTS AND DISCUSSION, MADAM CHAIR.

>> YES. THIS IS COUNCILMAN RODMAN. YEAH, I STRONGLY DISAGREE.

>> WE BASICALLY AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TALKED ABOUT TWO NUMBERS AND TO TAKE ONE OF THE NUMBERS AND GO FORWARD ON A NEGOTIATION MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.

I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH ACTUALLY VOTING ON A TOTAL NUMBER AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE HIGH NUMBER OR THE LOW NUMBER TO TAKE ONE NUMBER AND GO OFF AND NEGOTIATE MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT I'M CERTAINLY GOING TO VOTE STRONGLY AGAINST THAT PARTICULAR MOTION.

>> OK, THANKS VERY COME. YES, GO AHEAD. >> AGAIN, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL AND IT IS NOW SIMPLY A MATTER OF WHETHER THAT PROPOSAL WILL GATHER ENOUGH VOTES TO CARRY

THE MAJORITY. >> WELL, I HOPE IT DOESN'T WORK.

I MEAN THAT'S THE HOPE THAT I THINK WE'RE MAKING MANDATORY THAT SEVERAL DIDN'T AGREE WITH

THAT PROPOSAL. >> HI. AND I THINK THAT'S HOW YOU NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU SO SO I BUT I DON'T I AGREE WITH COUNSEL THAT THESE NUMBERS SHOULD NOT BE DISCUSSED AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ASPECT OF WHAT WE SAW TO IT HAS TO BE DISCUSSED BY OUR COUNCIL AND MR. JOHNSON. OK.

THE PERSON THAT MADE THE MOVE. ARE WE READY TO VOTE ANY OTHER CAMP COUNCILMAN FOILING THE MOTION? HOW DO YOU VOTE? YES.

WAS THE SECOND ONE BY COUNCIL SOMERVILLE HOW DO YOU VOTE YES ? ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN VISE CHAIR DAWSON, HOW DO YOU VOTE YES? YES. COUNCILMAN COVER NO. COUNCILMAN PASSING IT.

NO. COUNCILMAN RODMAN? NO.

>> OKAY. DID YOU COUNCILMAN COVER IT? NO.

YOU GET THAT THIS BROUGHT COUNCILMAN RODMAN HOW DO YOU VOTE NO COUNTS WHEN GLOVER

CARES. >> HE'S A ROLE NO IF HE'S BEING SLOW UPDATING GOT IT.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST BEING VERY SLOW UPDATING SO I CAN TAKE IT OFF THE SCREEN.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

VOTED YES. AND COUNCILMAN MCLELLAN, ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T HEAR FROM

GLOVER'S VOTE, HE SAID YES, I VOTE NO. >> THANK YOU.

OK, COUNCILMAN MCKELLEN VOTES NO. AS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE, I VOTE YES. SO BROCK, WHAT IS THE COUNT? COUNCILMAN RODMAN'S VOTE IS NOT SHOWN UP YET. YEAH, SHE SAYS IT'S BEING SLOW. I KNOW IT WAS A NO AND IT WAS MARK WASN'T HERE OR NOT ON THE CALL. HE'S NOT ON THE CALL.

IT'S FIVE FIVE IS SPLIT 5 4 5 4 5 5 4. CHRIS IS VERY LAZY SO HE'S NOT.

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>> WHAT WAS MR. DAWSON SORRY. IT JUST STUCK. HE WAS A YES.

OK. THAT'S THERE. NOW IT SHOULD BE UPDATED.

>> SO IT IS FIVE GUEST NOW THAT PASSES THEM BY OPENING IT PASSES BY FOUR.

>> OK. I THINK STAFF IS OUR DIRECTION AND WE WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT WHAT IS WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IS. AND THANK YOU AGAIN, MADAM CHAIR. MADAM CHAIR. YES.

YES. COUNCILMAN WILDMAN, GO AHEAD. I WOULD ASK THAT WE GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SO THAT WE CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE IN CASE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

DOESN'T WORK. >> ARE YOU MAKING THAT IN THE FORM OF A MASS MAKING A MOTION

TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION HERE? >> MADAM CHAIRMAN, I HAVE OTHER OBLIGATIONS I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MEETING. GOOD LUCK.

I'M FINE. >> OK. DID I HAVE A SECOND FIVE SECONDS. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN CLEAVER. SECOND, DON'T WE HAVE ANOTHER

MEETING SCHEDULED ON THIS SUBJECT? >> WE WILL.

YEAH, I'M SORRY. ON THE NIGHT OF THE NIGHT COULD WE IF WE DO THIS ON THE 9TH STOOP? NO NOT THIS WON'T. THIS WON'T TAKE LONG.

OK. WELL I'M GONE. OK.

ALL IT. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON WHETHER TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION?

>> NO. >> I VOTE I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE A ROLL CALL VOTE TO START WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTION. HOW DO YOU VOTE? YEAH.

GET BACK. OKAY. HOW DOES THIS MAKE A SECOND

COUNCILMAN COVER? HOW DO YOU VOTE? >> OKAY.

VISE CHAIRMAN DAWSON. HOW DO YOU VOTE NO. COUNCILMAN.

THE CITY AND WE GO THROUGH THE LIST HERE. COUNCILMAN PASSIM.

HOW DO YOU VOTE? YES, COUNCILMAN MCGOWAN YES. >> COUNCILMAN GLOVER, HOW DO YOU VOTE NO? COUNCILMAN SOMERVILLE HOW DO YOU VOTE NO?

>> AND I THINK MR RUDD FLEW. THERE IS OKAY. >> I'M COUNCILMAN FOILING.

>> HOW DO YOU VOTE NO. AND AS CHAIRMAN I VOTE NO NOT TO GO BACK AND EXECUTIVE

SESSION. SO WE HAVE MORE. >> AND THAT WAS ENOUGH.

SO THIS BY IT'S LIKE FINAL FOUR NOT TO GIVE BACK AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. EVERYONE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS OF DISCUSSION BEFORE WE ADJOURN SO SCHEDULED TO MEET ON THE 9TH? YEAH, THAT OPENED STILL SCHEDULED FOR THE 9TH. YEAH.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER BUSINESS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.