Aug 27, 2020 Natural Resources Committee Work Session

[1. CALL TO ORDER 2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 3. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT ]

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TO DALLAS. >> HOWARD, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING ORDER.

I'M SORRY COMMUNITY IMPACT. THEY WERE SO UPSET. SO LET'S RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF

ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. JUSTICE BERYL OK, THIS THIS MR BROCK WAS THIS PUBLIC NERVOUS DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION? YES, MA'AM. IT BEFORE WE APPROVED THE AGENDA I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MINUTE TO HAVE THE CITIZENS COMMENTS THAT THEN AND THE PURPOSE FOR THAT IS SO THAT THEY CAN HEAR THEIR PRESENTATION WHICH MAY ANSWER A LOT OF THEIR QUESTIONS TO MOVE

BETTER TO COMMENT. >> THIS IS BRIAN LLEWELLYN. OK.

I HAVE A SECOND SHARK OFF SUBJECT. A SECOND ABOUT COUNCILMAN GLOVER. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS IF NOT WILL STAND UP.

THIS IS STILL JUST CHECKING INTO. ALL RIGHT.

I'D LIKE TO BEFORE WE START THE PRESENTATION TO GO FOR WHAT I GONNA CALL THE GROUND RULES.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS WORKSHOP IS TO THE PRESENTATION COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THEY CAN DO IT DURING THE PRESENTATION DISCUSS WHAT IMPACT THESE COUNTY COUNCIL'S GOING TO CONSIDER, WHAT VALUES FOR THOSE FEES OR RECOMMEND IT OR NOT.

AND THEN ALSO DISCUSSION OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT. WE HAVE RECEIVED COMMENTS BY OTHER TOWN OF HILTON HEAD TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN CITY BUTTE FOR WHAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN GENERAL TERMS TONIGHT. MORE DETAILS TO FOLLOW. WE HAVE RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENTS IN WRITING AND THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO COMMENT ON FACEBOOK, FACEBOOK.

THE COUNTY CLERK SIR BOB WILL READ THEM. IT WILL ONLY BE ONE PERSON PER COMMENT. IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU MAKE COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK YOU CAN ONLY MAKE THEM ONCE AND YOU'LL BE LIMITED TO WHATEVER CAN BE READ IN THREE MINUTES.

[6. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE STUDY UPDATE FOR EXISTING AND PROPOSED IMPACT FEES COVERING TRANSPORTATION, PARKS AND RECREATION, LIBRARIES, FIRE, SOLID WASTE, AND EMS – COLIN MCAWEENEY, TISCHLERBISE ]

THANK DIGITAL RIGHTS AND HE WILL DO IS PRESENTATION. OK.

WELL THANKS AGAIN. IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE WITH ALL OF YOU.

AND YOU KNOW ONE VARIATION MAYBE LAST MONTH'S COMMITTEE PRESENTATION IS I WILL STOP.

I AM GOING TO STOP AFTER EVERY SORT OF SECTION OF THE PRESENTATION TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS UNTIL MY HEADPHONES ARE ON BUT I WILL STOP AFTER AFTER EVERY SECTION .

WHAT I WANT TO DO FIRST IS GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THE GENERALITIES OF IMPACT FEES.

AGAIN, JUST SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. IMPACT FEES ARE ONE TIME PAYMENTS FOR GROWTH RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE COMMENTS ONLY PAID BY NEW DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEES HELP MITIGATE THE CAPITAL COST FOR NEW INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP FACILITATE THE NEW DEMAND CREATED BY THE BY THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT. THE IMPACT FEE IS NOT A TAX IT'S MORE OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE FEE PAYER IN THAT THE FEE WILL BE USED IN THE FUTURE IN NEAR TERMS TO BUILD AND CONSTRUCT NEW IMPROVEMENT THAT WILL BE BENEFITING THE NEW RESIDENTS AND NEW JOBS. IMPACT FEES HELP OLIVIER OLIVIER PRESSURE ON GENERAL FUND TAX REVENUE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THERE IS A THREE PRONG RATIONAL NEXUS THAT HAS TO BE MET IN AN IMPACT STUDY. THERE HAS TO BE NEED.

THAT'S FIRST DONE BY SHOWING SO RECENT TERMS GROWTH AND ALSO IN NEAR TERMS IN THE FUTURE THERE IS GROWTH THAT IS GOING TO PUT ADDITIONAL DEMAND ON EXISTING FACILITIES THAT REQUIRE CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS BENEFIT. WE CREATE SERVICE AREAS WITH AN IMPACT FEE STUDIES ENSURING

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LASTLY PROPORTIONALITY IMPACT FEES HAVE TO SHOW PROPORTIONALITY BETWEEN DIFFERENT DEMAND FACTORS SO WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL LAND USE TYPES AND WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES THERE IS SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY FOR EXAMPLE AND RESIDENTIAL AND YOU CAN HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT NON RESIDENTIAL LAND USE TYPES WITHIN THE FEE SCHEDULE SHOWING PROPORTIONALITY BETWEEN THE FEE .

THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES TO AN IMPACT FEE STUDY.

THE COST RECOVERY WHICH LOOKS AT PAST IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE OVERSIZED FACILITIES IN DEVELOPMENT CAN PAY INTO THAT INCREMENTAL EXPANSION WHICH SETS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO WHERE YOU'RE CURRENTLY PROVIDING AND THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE WILL BE PROVIDED INTO THE FUTURE IN A PLAN BASED APPROACH THAT USES A PLANNED LEVEL OF SERVICE INTO THE FUTURE THAT'S COMMONLY DONE WITH TRANSPORTATION WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE OR IF THERE'S LARGE, LARGE PROJECTS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING TO FIND SPECIFICALLY FOR SOUTH CAROLINA IMPACT FEES HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED AND INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNTS WHICH FEE FOR COUNTY IS DOING RIGHT NOW MONEYS HAVE TO BE SPENT WITHIN THREE YEARS WHICH I MENTIONED THERE HAS TO BE AN ANNUAL MONITORING REPORT TRADITIONALLY EVERY FIVE YEARS AN IMPACT FEE STUDIES COMPLETED WHICH WE'VE DONE TODAY TO READDRESS TO ADDRESS ALL THE FACTORS LEVELS OF SERVICE IN COST FACTORS IN THE REPORT. LASTLY FOR SOUTH CAROLINA UNIQUE TO SOUTH CAROLINA IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ANALYSIS THAT HAS TO BE CONDUCTED AT THE END TO SHOW THE IMPACT OF THESE FEES ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY FOR THOSE WITH INCOMES 80 PERCENT OF THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR THE AREA TO ADDRESS THE FIRST PRONG OF THE RATIONAL NEXUS HERE IS JUST SHOWING OUR PROJECTED RESIDENTIAL NONRESIDENTIAL GROWTH IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

>> YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 50000 NEW RESIDENTS AND THAT INCLUDES PERMANENT RESIDENTS BUT ALSO YOUR SEASONAL AND PEAK TIME VISITORS THAT 50000 RESIDENTS EQUATES TO ABOUT NINETEEN THOUSAND NEW HOMES. WE'RE ALSO ESTIMATING AND PROJECTING ABOUT 16000 NEW JOBS IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS OR 7 MILLION NEW SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SINCE WE SPOKE LAST WE TISCHLER BUYS WITH COUNTY STAFF HAVE DECIDED TO REMOVE THE SOLID WASTE COMPONENT OF THE IMPACT FEE STUDY TISCHLER BIES IS COMPLETING A SOLID WASTE SERVICE FEE FOR THE FUTURE SOLID WASTE ENTERPRISE FUND.

IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THAT SERVICE FEE WILL BETTER CAPTURE FUTURE CAPITAL NEEDS BY REMOVING SOLID WASTE FROM THE IMPACT FEE STUDY WE'RE ENSURING THAT THERE'S NO DOUBLE PAYMENT ISSUES ESSENTIALLY THAT NEW RESIDENTS AREN'T PAYING THE IMPACT FEE BUT THEN ALSO PAYING THE ENTERPRISE SERVICE FEE WHICH WILL GO TO PAY FOR THE SAME PROJECTS.

>> ANOTHER SLIDE HERE WHICH IF I INCLUDED DISCUSSES INTERNAL AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE ANALYSIS IS SHOW WHAT YOU CERTAIN ARE PROVIDING TODAY TO MUNICIPALITIES AND WE HAVE BEEN AGREED ON BY MUNICIPALITIES IGAD HELP ENSURE FEE REVENUE MATCHES THE CAPITAL COSTS FROM FUTURE GROWTH. TODAY THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF IDEAS IN PLACE BUT MOVING FORWARD BEFORE COUNTY NEEDS TO REVISIT THESE AGES 4 4 WHAT'S CURRENTLY AGREED UPON BUT ALSO THE NEW COMPONENTS AMASSING IN SCHOOLS.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FROM MY COVER I GOING ON OH OKAY. I THOUGHT THE FIGURES.

THE PROBLEM WITH THANK YOU TODAY SEEKING THE SAFETY WATCHING OR LISTENING THAT ARE COMPLETELY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT KIM PAPA THE PURPOSE SAID WHILE HE'S THESE ARE TIME TO PAY FOR THE CAPITAL STRUCTURE FALSE THAT THEY TAKE DOWN TO SAYING HE'S OUT HAVING TO REFILL IT

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OK. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THE 9 FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING OR LISTENING IT MIGHT NOT TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT.

PLEASE PLEASE TELL US THAT THESE ARE DESIGNED TO PAY FOR CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.

WHAT DOES A COUNTY DO FOR THOSE SAME NEEDS WITHOUT AN IMPACT FEE? CORRECT. SO IMPACT FEES ARE ONE TIME PAYMENTS BY NEW DEVELOPMENT TO HELP OFFSET THEIR CAPITAL DEMANDS WITHOUT IMPACT FEES. THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO USE OTHER FUNDING IN GENERAL CASES THAT GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX THAT WOULD BE USED TO FOR EXAMPLE PAY FOR NEW PARK IMPROVEMENTS OR PUT TOWARDS NEW ROADS.

SO IMPACT FEES HELP MITIGATE THAT AND ALLEVIATE PRESSURE ON. ON GENERAL FUND REVENUES IF YOU WANT TO GO. GO AHEAD. OH YEAH I'LL CONTINUE HERE.

ANOTHER THING ABOUT IGAD IS WE WILL ADDRESS WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE TODAY IN EACH SECTION AND WE CAN WE CAN DISCUSS ONE BY ONE AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP CONCERNING THAT THE BULK OF THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE BEAUFORT COUNTY IMPACT FEES.

BUT WE WANTED TO SORT OF BRING FORWARD THE SCHOOL IMPACT FEE AGAIN TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS THIS.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN SENT FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED THE FIRST READING BUT WE WANTED TO SORT OF RUN THROUGH THIS AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END HERE.

THE SCHOOL IMPACT THE ANALYSIS INCLUDES THREE COMPONENTS. NEW SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION, SCHOOL LAND AND SCHOOL BUSES ALL THREE OF THOSE COMPONENTS ARE USING THE INCREMENTAL EXPANSION METHODOLOGY THAT SETS THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE TO WHAT YOU'RE PROVIDING TODAY.

AND ASSUMING THAT IS MOVING FORWARD FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET PER STUDENT ACRES PER STUDENT IN SCHOOL BUSES PER STUDENT BASED ON OUR EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS AND RESEARCH WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE'VE DETERMINED THAT ONLY IN THE SOUTH OF THE BROAD SERVICE AREA IMPACT FEE STUDY MEETS THE RATIONAL NEXUS THERE'S EXISTING CAPACITY OR SEATS IN THIS FOR THIS EXAMPLE IN THE NORTH THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL PROJECTED NEEDS WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS. CURRENTLY THERE'S NO INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS FOR SCHOOL FEES. SO THIS IS A THIS IS A AN ITEM HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BY MY COUNTY STAFF AND THE COUNTY COUNTY COUNCIL.

MOVING FORWARD, HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE PROJECTED STUDENT ENROLLMENT IN THE NORTH . LIKE I WAS JUST SAYING THERE'S ACTUALLY A DECREASING ENROLLMENT IN THE NORTH. THAT'S THE BLUE GRAY LINE IN THIS EXAMPLE AND THIS FIGURE HERE AND THE RED LINE IS THE VAIL CAPACITY AND YOU CAN SEE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE'RE SEEING A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN PROJECTED ENROLLMENT BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

HERE'S THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT FOR THE SOUTH. I MEAN YOU CAN SEE BY 2023 THE AVAILABLE CAPACITY IS MATCH CAIN IS EXCEEDED BY THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT REQUIRING THAT NEW CAPACITY AND THE IMPACT BE RATIONAL AND ACCESS. AND CAN I INTERRUPT JUST FOR A MOMENT? I KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE PROJECTIONS AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED THEM DURING THAT MEETING BECAUSE I KNOW YOU COORDINATED WITH THEIR WHAT THEIR PLAN CAROL CRUTCHFIELD JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THESE PROJECTIONS WERE BASED ON DATA FROM THE SCHOOL. YES.

YEAH. THIS IS DATA FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHICH IS GEO FIELD CODED DATA AND ALSO WHERE YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT HERE IS THIS NEW GENERATION RATES ARE ALSO LOCAL DATA. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT LOCAL DATA AND THESE ANALYSIS THIS BREAKS DOWN THIS THE SOUTH OF THE BROAD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROJECTIONS A LITTLE BIT YOU CAN SEE BY IN TWO YEARS IN 2021 THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT IS GOING TO EXCEED THE CAPACITY NECESSARY FOR THE CHOICE PROGRAM AND WITHIN 10 YEARS YOU'RE GONNA HIT 100 PERCENT FOR FOUR TOTAL AVAILABLE CAPACITY FOR MIDDLE SCHOOLS YOU'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE THRESHOLD FOR THE CHOICE PROGRAM AND BY 2023 YOU'RE EXCEEDING ALL AVAILABLE

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SAME SCENARIO ALREADY EXCEEDED CAPACITY FOR CHOICE PROGRAM AND IN TWO YEARS IS PROJECTED OVER 100 PERCENT UTILIZATION OF THE CAPACITY FOR HIGH SCHOOLERS. THIS BREAKS DOWN THE ANALYSIS

INTO THE SORT OF COMPLEX HERE. >> BUT THE FIRST SECTION OF THE FIGURE ILLUSTRATES THE CALCULATIONS FOR A CAR CONSTRUCTION COST PER STUDENT. SECOND SECTION THERE'S FOUR LAND COSTS IN SCHOOL COST. THE BOTTOM FIRST LINE GREEN IS THE GROSS CAPITAL COST PER STUDENT. THEN WE'VE INCLUDED TWO CREDITS TO ENSURE THERE'S NO DOUBLE PAYMENT SITUATION. SO YOU HAVE EXISTING DEBT BUT ALSO THE RECENT REFERENDUM BOND. WE DON'T WANT A NEW RESIDENT TO PAY THE IMPACT FEE BUT ALSO PAY FOR THEIR FOR THEIR FOR THEIR MILLAGE TO GO TOWARDS DEBT. THAT'S RETIRING RETIRING A BOND THAT WAS USED TO USED TO CONSTRUCT THE FACILITY THAT THEY'VE ALREADY PAID FOR WITH THE IMPACT FEE. SO THE OTHER NET LOCAL CAPITAL COSTS THEY'RE NOW THOSE ARE LARGE NUMBERS. WHAT WE DO IS APPLY NEW GENERATION RATE HOUSING TYPE 2 THOSE NUMBERS TO GET THE MAXIMUM AFFORDABLE FEE AND THE TOP HERE FOR THE SOUTH OF THE BROAD THE DUNE GENERATION RATE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS TWO POINT THREE POINT TWO THREE SIX STUDENTS FOR MULTI-FAMILY IT'S LESS IT'S POINT 1 1 7 MULTIPLIED EACH ONE OF THOSE TWO GENERATION RATES TO THE THE CAPITAL COST PER STUDENT AND YOU GET A MAXIMUM SUBURBAN SCHOOL FEE OF NINE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND FOUR THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED EIGHT DOLLARS FOR MULTIFAMILY HOME LEAVE THE LAST SLIDE HERE IS THE FEE REVENUE PROJECTIONS. SO APPLYING THOSE MAXIMUM PORTABLE AMOUNTS TO THE PROJECTED HOUSING GROWTH IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS IS A PROJECTED REVENUE EIGHTY EIGHT POINT NINE MILLION DOLLARS TO WANT TO PUT TO ANYONE HAS SOME QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME COUNCIL MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE SLIDES THAT HE JUST PRESENTED? HOW YOU ASKING FOR QUESTIONS? MIND YOU ASKING FOR QUESTIONS? YES, I'M ASKING FOR QUESTIONS. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I THINK NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED AND I THINK I THINK THE GENERAL SPOKE TO I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY ONE OF THE CRITICISMS OF IMPACT IS THAT PEOPLE WILL KEEP PAYING TWICE SIMPLY PAYING ONCE THE INITIAL PACKAGE THE SELF AND THEN PAY AGAIN WHEN THEY HAVE TO PAY TAXES MONEY THAT'S ALREADY PART BUT ALSO WHERE I

DID SHIFT. >> THERE'S THE COFFEE BEFORE IT CAN OFFSET CREDIT FOR FOLKS TO MOVE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A DOUBLE CHARGE. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

LIKE WAS I GOING TO SAY TO PLEASE? >> YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH. EXACTLY. THAT'S THE.

SO LET'S TAKE THE 2019 REFERENDUM AND THAT WAS THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR.

THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND PROJECTS IN THAT REFERENDUM BUT ONLY A PORTION OF THAT WAS CAPACITY INCREASING PROJECTS. SO WE LIKE YOU SAYING THAT THE THE THE APPROACH IS THAT IF YOU PAY AN IMPACT FEE YOU DON'T WANT YOUR SAME DOLLARS TO PAY FOR A FACILITY THAT YOU'RE ALSO PAYING FOR YOUR PROPERTY TAX. SO AN EASIER WAY IS TO ADDRESS THAT DOUBLE PAYMENT ISSUE AND THEN THE IMPACT FEE CALCULATION . SO THE SECOND RED LINE HERE OF THE THREE HUNDRED AND ONE DOLLARS PER STUDENT WE'VE LOOKED ONLY AT CAPACITY INCREASING PROJECTS WITHIN THAT REFERENDUM AN ESTIMATED WHAT AN AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD AVERAGE.

WE SORT OF GUIDE THE PAYMENT PER STUDENT. SORRY IT'S MORE OF A PAYMENT PER STUDENT THROUGH THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THEN APPLY THAT THAT CREDIT TO THE THE IMPACT FEE BY HOUSEHOLD TYPE. SO THERE ARE IN THE 2019 BOND A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT ADDRESS TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION SECURITY RECREATION AND THOSE AREN'T INCLUDED IN THIS CREDIT BECAUSE THOSE AREN'T CASSIDY INCREASING PROJECTS AND THOSE AREN'T PROJECTS THAT CAN'T BE THAT CAN BE FUNDED BY IMPACT FEES FUNDS IMPACT REFUNDS.

SCHOOLS CAN ONLY BE THAT CAN ONLY BE USED TO FUND PROJECTS THAT ARE EXPANDING SEATS USED

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SO WE'VE ONLY SAID THAT YOU'LL SEE A SMALLER NUMBER IN THIS CASE BECAUSE WE'RE DEBATING OUT THE CAPACITY INCREASING PROJECTS AND WE'VE INCLUDED THAT HERE AND NOW IN THE 4000 DOLLAR CREDIT IS FOR EXISTING DEBT. I DON'T HAVE THE PROJECT LIST IN FRONT OF ME BUT WE FOR EXISTING THAT THAT WAS BONDED TO CONSTRUCT PASSING INCREASING PROJECTS. WE'VE DONE THAT AS WELL HERE. AND IT'S SORT OF A COMPLICATED CALCULATION BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ANNUAL PAYMENT PER YEAR AND THEN THE PROJECTED ENROLLMENT OF THAT YEAR TO GET A TO GET A DEBT PAYMENT PER STUDENT AND WRAP THAT UP WITHIN IF IT'S A 20 YEAR BOND WITHIN 20 YEARS INCLUDED A NET PRESENT VALUE TO PAUL.

DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? YES, IT DOES. REMAINING.

ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE IT GOES ON TO THE NEXT PART OF THE PRESENTATION PALACES? OH YES.

I SAY, JOE, PASS ON IT. GO AHEAD. AND THEN AFTER HAMSTER RODMAN LET'S GO FIRST ON FORMULATING MY QUESTION SO IT CAN EASILY BE RATIONALLY.

>> COUNCILMAN RODMAN GO. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THE CREDIT.

I'M STILL NOT CONVINCED THAT IT'S NOT DOUBLE CHARGING BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION NOW IS THAT WE SHOULD POSE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD IS THAT THEY PUT FORWARD THREE HUNDRED AND SOMETHING MILLION DOLLAR REFERENDUM THAT DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THE CAPACITY FOR MANY YEARS IN THE FUTURE AND I CERTAINLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS IF THEY IF THEY DID THEY MISLED THE PUBLIC AND I'M NOT SURE PRESENTER CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO SHED LIGHT ON DATA FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I WOULD SAY WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THEM. I THINK THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS TO COME FORWARD AND TELL US AND SQUARE THAT AWAY. WE DID THEY INCLUDE THE CAPACITY FOR A NUMBER YEARS INTO THE FUTURE OR DIDN'T MAKE . ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN BASMA. CHAIRMAN, QUESTION. YOU READY?

YES, I AM. >> DID YOU SEE IT? YOU CAN READ IT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE. THE IMPACT FEES HAVE TO BE USED WITHIN THREE YEARS.

IS THAT CORRECT? IF IT IS. ARE THEY INTENDING TO BUILD NEW SCHOOLS? YES. YES.

YEP. YEP. YEP.

I DON'T HAVE THE C IP ON ME RIGHT NOW BUT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AT DIFFERENT GRADE LEVELS IN EXPANSIONS BUT ALSO NEW SCHOOLS LISTED IN THEIR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN THE SOUTH FOR THE BROAD WITHIN WITHIN THE SERVICES THAT WERE NOT ON THE REFERENDUM, CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD LIST FOR US TO SEE AS A FOLLOW UP IN WE CAN GET THAT. YEAH.

YEAH. OKAY. GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE QUESTION IF I COULD I GUESS THIS IS A FOLLOW UP. SO ESSENTIALLY I MEAN CLASSICALLY ALICE OKAY.

GO AHEAD. YES. IT'S THAT IS MORE CONFUSING.

IF WE'RE COLLECTING A FEE NOW THAT HAS TO BE SPENT FOUR IN THREE YEARS TO BUILD 40, 50, 60 MILLION DOLLAR SCHOOLS. ONE IS WHAT WE COLLECT ENOUGH TO DO IT.

AND SECONDLY, WHY WOULD THE REFERENDUM THAT WE JUST PASS NOT INCLUDE? SO I GRAB AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR YEAH I'LL SPEAK TO THE THREE YEARS THAT'S NOT SHOVELS IN THE GROUND THAT'S THE DESIGN PROCESS HAS TO START. SO THAT PROCESS EVEN CONSTRUCTION COULD TAKE SEVERAL YEARS. AND SO IF YOU COLLECT A A IF YOU DO COLLECT A FEE.

JANUARY 1 OF 2021 THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO BE USED BY JANUARY 1, 2024.

BUT WHETHER IT'S FOR DESIGN COULD BE DESIGN OR LAND YET THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

AND I COULD SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REFERENDUM NOW REFERENDUMS CAN BE USED FOR PASSING INCREASING BUT THERE'S A LOT OF CERTAIN TECHNOLOGY AND SAFETY DEFICIENCIES OR IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WANT TO DO THAT ARE SERVING ALL OF THE RESIDENTS CURRENTLY.

SO IT JUSTIFIES A COUNTY DISTRICT WIDE REFERENDUM MILLAGE INCREASE BECAUSE IT'S HELPING TO SUPPORT ALL STUDENTS CURRENT AND FUTURE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET AS THAT LIST FOR OUR COUNT FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AND SCHOOL

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AGAIN, WE'VE WE'VE EXCLUDED SOLID WASTE FROM THIS ANALYSIS. M.S. IS THE ONLY NEW FEE HERE AND WE'LL FIRST ADDRESS PARKS AND REC, A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS WITHIN THIS PARKS AND REC FEE.

THERE'S REGIONAL PARKS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THOSE PARKS, COMMUNITY PARKS, NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND RECREATION CENTERS. THE SERVICE AREA FOR REGIONAL PARKS IS COUNTY WIDE.

ALL THE OTHER FACILITIES WE'VE SPLIT IN THE NORTH AND SOUTH THE BROAD SERVICE AREA CURRENTLY THERE'S ONLY AN IJA BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND TOWN OF BLUFFTON.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION THAT CAME UP FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT REGARDING THE SERVICE AREAS.

I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING MORE FOR SPECIFIC WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES BUT THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT WE NORTH OF THE BROAD WOODS ONE SERVICE AREA AND SOUTH OF THE BORDER WAS ONE SERVICE. CORRECT. SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S STILL SOMETHING BUILT OR WOULD BE IN UNINCORPORATED OR INCORPORATED AREAS OF EITHER SERVICE AREA. IT COULD BE EITHER WAY. IT COULD BE EITHER WAY.

YES, EXACTLY. YEAH. YEAH.

IN TO SORT OF ADDRESS ANOTHER QUESTION I WAS BROUGHT UP HERE IS WE HAVE INCLUDED ALL POPULATIONS INCORPORATED IN UNINCORPORATED RESIDENTS INTO THE ANALYSIS HERE.

THE LEVEL SERVICE IS SET TO THAT LEVEL AND BECAUSE YOU ARE SERVING THE FULL COUNTY WIDE POPULATION WITH THESE FACILITIES IN LIEU OF IGAD FOR EACH MUNICIPALITY THERE WILL BE A FUNDING GAP BECAUSE YOU'RE PROVIDING SERVICE TO EVERYONE BUT IF NOT EVERYONE'S PARTICIPATING THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHUNK OF THE PIE MISSING SOME INCENTIVE.

THE IDEA IS SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE BUT ALSO BEHIND IT WHAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE ADDRESSING IS WHAT YOUR CURRENT LEVELS OF SERVICE ARE TODAY AND THE PROJECTED EXPENDITURES THE MAXIMUM SUPPORTABLE FEE AND THEN THE REVENUES IN CASH ANALYSIS OF THAT HERE FOR REGIONAL PARKS. THIS BASED ON COUNTY WIDE LEVEL OF SERVICE. SO YOU'RE PROVIDING TWO POINT TO NINE ACRES PER THOUSAND EACH ACRE COST EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT'S LAND AND IMPROVEMENTS.

SO BASED ON COUNTY WIDE POPULATION GROWTH WE'RE PROJECTING EIGHT POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS IN GROWTH RELATED NEEDS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS FOR THE NORTH FOR THE BROAD SERVICE AREA HERE WE'RE ADDRESSING THE COMMUNITY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND RECREATION CENTERS AND YOU CAN SEE THE LEVELS OF SERVICE AT THE TOP THERE WITH THE UNIT COST OF GETTING THAT LAND PLUS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LAND. THEN AT THE VERY BOTTOM APPLYING THOSE LEVELS OF SERVICE UNIT COSTS WE'RE PROJECTING NEARLY THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN NORTH OF THE BRIDE PARKS AND REC CAPITAL FACILITIES OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS FURTHER SOUTH. LEVELS OF SERVICE AGAIN ARE JUST ARE CALCULATED BASED ON WHAT'S IN THE GROUND TODAY IN THE SOUTH AND YOUR COUNTY. SO COUNTY Y BUT JUST IN THE SOUTH INCLUDING INCLUDING THE DISPARITIES HERE. UNIT COSTS THERE INCLUDING LAND AND IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE ESTIMATING ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS SOUTH OF THE BROAD. I HAVE A QUESTION FROM BRIAN SWELLING. ARE THE PARKS WITHIN AND OR SLASH 0? OH. I MEAN IS PARITIES INCLUDED IN ACRES SLASH RESIDENT CALCULATION? THEY'RE NOW THAT WE'VE ONLY INCLUDED COUNTY OWNED FACILITIES IN THIS ANALYSIS. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT FUNDS RAISED COULDN'T BE USED IN AN INCORPORATED AREA. IF SON AND IGAD YES THE IJA IS MORE FOR THE THE DISPARITY WOULD BE COLLECTING ON YOUR BEHALF ON THE COUNTY'S BEHALF. EVERY SIX MONTHS OR EVERY YEAR HOWEVER THE AGREEMENT SET UP THEY WOULD THEN TRANSFER THOSE FUNDS TO YOU AT I'M NOT SURE WHERE WHERE THE STANCES BETWEEN A COUNTY PARK BEING CONSTRUCTED AND THE MUNICIPALITY BORDERS BUT THAT CAN I MEAN IF IT'S COUNTY KNOWN THAT CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

RYAN, WOULD YOU COMMENT ON PUT YOUR SET UP IN CASE YOU HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR

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HOW IS WE NEED TO COME TO SOME AGREEMENT WITH THE MUNICIPAL COUNTIES REGARDING HOW WE HOW WE MAINTAIN THE PARK, HOW WE HOW WE LOCATE THEM AND WHO THEY'RE INTENDED TO TO HELP OUT. AND IT'S REALLY A VERY LARGE QUESTION THAT QUITE FRANKLY IT'S TROUBLED US FOR THE 12 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN OUT OF TOWN.

SO IT IS LIKELY TO TROUBLE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.

I I I THINK THAT HAVING AN HOUR AGO GOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES REGARDING PARKS MAY BE AN INSURMOUNTABLE CHALLENGE AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.

SO I'LL MOVE ON. >> THIS IS THE FEE SCHEDULE SET UP FOR NORTH.

ARE WE GOING? OH, I HAVE ANOTHER. YEAH YEAH I HAD.

IF WE JUST TAKE THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AS AN EXAMPLE SAY FOR EXAMPLE HYPOTHETICALLY THAT THERE SOME OF THE DUE SOUTH OF THE BROAD PARKS AND REC LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE A LOCAL HEAD INTENDS TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND COMPLETE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE PARK.

IF THEY DO DO THAT THEY SIMPLY DON'T DO AND I'D SEE A WAR THAT WOULD TAKE SOME LEADERSHIP IS SET IN STONE. AND SIMILARLY WITH THE OTHER ANOTHER PRACTICALITY THAT YOU DON'T WE DON'T SEE DON'T T.J. IN PARKS AND RECREATION THAT OUR PARK BUDGET JUST CAN'T BE TRUSTED TO ALLOCATE MAKE THAT THAT'S WHAT SORT OF SIR I THINK I THINK I GOT JUST A BIT I MEAN

THAT'S THE IPA BE SET UP IN ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE TO. >> SO IF YOU CHOSE TO AGREE THAT REGIONAL PARK FOR EXAMPLE AND MAYBE COMMUNITY PARKS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE IJA THAT THAT CAN BE THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN YOU COULD SAY YOU REMOVE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS IF THE COUNTY CHOOSES NOT TO PROVIDE ANYMORE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS IN HILTON HEAD AND THAT'S SORT OF BASED MORE ON THE IJA THEN THAT FUNDING GAP WILL BE LESS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING THAT ANYMORE. IT WOULD REQUIRE MORE DILIGENCE C IN COLLECTING THE FUNDS AND ONLY PROVIDING CERTAIN THOSE CERTAIN PARKS TO CERTAIN AREAS YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE RESTRICTING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS TO OTHER AREAS BUT STILL PROVIDING REGIONAL COMMUNITY PARKS TO THAT POPULATION AS WELL. SO IT CAN BECOME THERE COULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN TO THAT BUT YOU DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THOSE IGAD TO IF YOU WANT TO SORT OF WORK THAT OUT AND IN THE END THE FEE SCHEDULE HERE YOU COULD REMOVE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK FROM THIS CALCULATION AND FIND WHAT THAT FEE WOULD BE THROUGH THIS THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS HERE THAT THE CALCULATION HERE NOW THAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME BURDEN UPON ADMINISTERING THAT THAT SORT OF SLICING AND DICING.

BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY WITH AN ICE SHEET. YES.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR RICK ON THAT? MAYBE I DIDN'T ASK MY QUESTION CORRECTLY. THIS IS A REAL SPECIFIC EXAMPLE . WE SAY THAT PARKS AND REC PROPRIETORS KNOCK IT DOWN JUST HAVEN'T TOLD HIM TO TAKE OVER COMPLETE CONTROL AND WE DON'T GAIN ANY RESPECT FOR EACH AND ALL THE PARKS. WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR OURSELVES.

THAT'S CERTAINLY CHIFLEY SIGNED AN RGA WHICH MAKES SENSE. WHY WOULD THEY IF THEY WERE GOING TO MAINTAIN ALL THE PARKS AND RECREATION SALES? LET'S JUST HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE REST OF THE BRAWL? I MEAN WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO SPEND ANY MORE MONEY ON THAT BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE DIFFERENT PARTNERS. WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN IT.

BUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT MAINTENANCE SAVING THE FUTURE GROWTH OF NEW PARK.

WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THOSE OUT. IT'LL BE DIFFERENT.

BOTTOM LINE WITH THE REST OF THE FACTS, THE BROAD IS THAT THE COUNTY OR THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES PARTY WILL BLUFFTON WILL SIGN ON TO THE GM IMPACT.

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THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO PARK IT IN CORPORATE THE COUNTY. I MEAN NOTHING CHANGES BUT IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. LONG AS I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY.

>> YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. YEAH.

THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. HE'S GONNA GO ON. YEAH.

YEAH. SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE AGAIN IS THE MAXIMUM SUPPORTABLE FEE SCHEDULE FROM PARKS AND REC. WE'VE BROKEN EACH ONE OF THOSE SORT OF FACILITY TYPES INTO LAND AND IMPROVEMENTS. THIS DOES ALLOW YOU TO CREATE ANOTHER CREDIT TO A DEVELOPER WHOSE STATE DEDICATES LAND TO THE COUNTY PARK FACILITIES.

YOU COULD JUST SORT OF CREDIT OUT THE LAND COMPONENT OR VISE VERSA IF YOU HAVE LAND AND THEY CHOOSE TO PUT IMPROVEMENTS ON IT. YOU COULD CREDIT OUT THE IMPROVEMENT PORTION OF IT. YOU CAN SEE THE FEE SCHEDULE IS BASED ON HOUSING UNIT SIZE.

WE'VE DONE ANALYSIS WITH LOCAL DATA TO CALCULATE PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD BASED ON EACH SORT OF HOUSING UNIT THRESHOLD THERE. FOR EXAMPLE IN THE NORTH HOUSING LESS THAN A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET HAS ONE GOING FOR PERSONS WHILE UNITS OVER FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET HAVE THREE POINT EIGHT PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD. THAT'S THE DEMAND FACTOR THAT WE USE ON PARKS AND REC FACILITIES. SO WE MULTIPLY THAT BY THE CAPITAL COST PER PERSON TO GET THE MAXIMUM POSSIBLE FEE PER UNIT AND THAT RANGES FROM 400 EIGHTY SIX DOLLARS UP TO ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED NINETEEN DOLLARS FOR THE LARGER UNITS THERE. THE CURRENT FEE IN THE NORTH IS THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY ONE DOLLARS SO YOU'RE SEEING AN INCREASE ANYWHERE FROM A HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE DOLLARS TO ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE IN THE SOUTH OF THE BROAD SERVICE AREA.

SAME SAME METHODOLOGY, SAME ANALYSIS AND YOU'RE SEEING DECREASES IN THE FEE FOR UNITS BELOW THREE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND THEN AN INCREASE UP TO ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE UNITS THAT ARE OVER FOUR THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. FOR THE PROJECTED REVENUE WE'RE USING THE MAXIMUM PORTABLE FEES FOR SORT OF AN AVERAGE SINGLE UNIT SIZE AND AVERAGE MULTIFAMILY SIZE THEN AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE WE HAVE A ONE THOUSAND SEVENTY SIX DOLLARS FOR SINGLE FAMILY UNIT AND 590 FOR MULTIFAMILY UNIT OVER 10 YEARS.

THE REVENUE IS PROJECTED AT FOUR POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS. YOUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS IN THE NORTH IS SIX POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS.

SO THERE'S A FUNDING GAP A TWO POINT FOR THIS IS RESULT OF ONLY COLLECT.

THERE'S NO IGAD PRESENTLY WITH MUNICIPALITIES IN THE NORTH YET THOSE FACILITIES YOUR PARKS REC FACILITIES ARE OPEN SERVING INCORPORATED RESIDENTS ONE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION HERE AND YOU'LL SEE THAT SHOW UP IN OTHER FEES SCHEDULED IS A CREDIT IN THE MIDDLE THERE OF EACH OF THE FEE SCHEDULES YOU'RE SEEING AFFORD OUR CREDIT IN THE NORTH AND 31 DOLLARS OF CREDIT IN THE SOUTH AND THAT'S FOR AGAIN EXISTING DEBT THAT WAS USED TO FUND FACILITY CONSTRUCTION THAT THESE IMPACT FEES ARE ALSO PAYING FOR. SO CREDIT OUT PORTION TO ENSURE THERE'S NO DOUBLE PAYMENT SCENARIO. IN THE SOUTH THE PROJECTED REVENUE IS THREE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS. THERE'S A PROJECTED COST OF SIX POINT EIGHT. SO YOU'RE HAVING FUNDING GAP OF THREE POINT TWO.

NOW THAT'S RESULTS OF ONLY COLLECTING IN UNCLE UNINCORPORATED BLUFFTON AREAS.

NOW THIS ANALYSIS THIS INCLUDES DEMAND IN HILTON HEAD. SO IF THE COUNTY IN HILTON HEAD GOES DOWN THE PATH WHERE THEY DON'T AGREE ON AN IJA THEN THIS FUNDING GAP WOULD SHRINK BECAUSE YOU WOULD JUST YOU WOULD NOT BE COMMITTING YOURSELF TO PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES NOT MANY TO HELP RESIDENTS. BUT I GUESS I I'LL STOP HERE IF

THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT. IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS BEFORE

WE DO ON THE LIBRARY, I HAVE A QUESTION. >> THE IS HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE.

I HAVE A QUESTION, ALICE. OK. COUNCILMAN TESTAMENT HAS A QUESTION. YES. ONE OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS WAS THAT QUESTION WAS IT LEGAL TO USE SQUARE FOOTAGE

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FOOTAGE TO ESTABLISH THE FAKE? >> IS THIS A LEGAL WAY OF DOING THIS?

>> I WOULD CERTAINLY LEGAL WE'VE DONE IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND EVEN MORE SO ESTABLISHES PROPORTIONALITY IF WE GO BACK TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS I'VE TALKED MY HEAD BUT IF WE JUST DID MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY UNIT WE'D HAVE TO AVERAGE THOSE HOUSEHOLD SIZES THOSE PEOPLE PER PER HOUSING UNIT TO GET AN AVERAGE DEMAND FACTOR. NOW HERE WHERE WE'RE EVEN BEING MORE SOPHISTICATED IN SPECIFIC AND IT DOES USING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE YET AND IT SORT OF IN LINES ITSELF WITH THE COUNTY TRYING TO ESTABLISH MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING WHERE YOU HAVE SMALLER HOUSING UNITS THERE'S LESS LESS OF A FEE IN SOME CASES.

YOU KNOW IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE SOUTH ABROAD YOU'RE SEEING DECREASES ACTUALLY IN SO LOWERING THE COST OF A NEW HOME WHICH ARE SMALL SMALLER HOMES. THAT ANSWER FOR YOU.

YES. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. BILL HAS A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD. ONE THING I NOTICED I DIDN'T JUST NOTE JUST NOW I'VE NOTICED IN EARLIER PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT IS THIS CHART. THIS THIS FEE OR TAX FEE IS EXTREMELY PROGRESSIVE. IT'S NOT REGRESSIVE AT ALL. THERE'S ALWAYS SOME CONCERN ABOUT REGRESSIVE TAXES BECAUSE THEY PUT A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE BURDEN ON POVERTY ON THE POOR OR POOR AND ALSO AND ALSO IMPACT ANCHOR AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT THIS DOES JUST THE OPPOSITE. IT PUTS THE BURDEN ON A LARGER POOL HOUSES MUCH IT'S LIKE RATIO OF THREE TO ONE WHEN YOU GO TO WORK WE'RE HAPPY 4000 SQUARE FEET. SO WE'RE REALLY, REALLY WORKING ON PROTECTING SOMETHING A LOT MORE. THINK OF THE SCALE WHERE PEOPLE LOOKING AT STUDENT AID SHOULD KNOW. DR. BENNETT AND GRETCHEN, I'D BE WILLING TO BET THAT THE FAMILIES THE SMALLER HOUSES HAVE YOUR FRIENDS. I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEBODY JUST BY 4000 BUT I WAS TOLD MAYBE SOME EMOTIONAL BOND BY PEOPLE WHO ARE RETIRED RETIREMENT MONEY AND DISCRETIONARY FIRE. I THINK I THINK THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS IS REGRESSIVE IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. INCORRECT ABOUT THAT. IT'S CERTAINLY PROGRESSIVE.

YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. IT ADDRESSES THOSE ISSUES THAT FOR COUNTY AND SEEING FOR HOUSING AFFORDABLE LATTE. YOU KNOW I CAN'T I CAN'T TALK WITH DATA BEHIND IT TO SAY IF IT'S HOUSING UNITS ARE SMALLER OR LARGER.

THAT'S OUR LEVEL. SAME WITH PRICING. BUT GENERALLY A BIGGER IS GOING TO BE MORE IT'S MORE IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE NOW THAT THE PERSON'S PER HOUSING UNIT NUMBERS YOU'RE SEEING ARE FROM LOCAL DATA. IT'S NOT JUST THE SORT OF FACTOR THAT WE'VE SORT OF COME UP. SO CERTAINLY THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF FOLKS THAT HAVE LARGER HOMES WITH MORE CHILDREN. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GONE TO THE NEXT ONE? ALL RIGHT. SO FOR LIBRARIES, THE FEE THAT THE COUNTY CURRENTLY HAS, WE TWO COMPONENTS TO THAT LIBRARY BRANCHES BOOKMOBILE IS THIS IS SEPARATED TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD SERVICE AREAS AND THEN BOOKMOBILE THOSE ARE CONSIDERED A COUNTY WIDE FACILITY BECAUSE WE CAN SORT TRAVEL AROUND THE COUNTY. CURRENTLY THERE IS AN A IN PLACE BETWEEN THE COUNTY IN BLUFFTON AND COUNTY AND HE'LL BEAUFORT AND FORT WARRAGUL ARE CONSIDERING THE PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THAT THE CONSIDERING THE PROGRAM WE'VE INCLUDED IN THAT THE CASH FLOW ANALYSIS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES THIS FIGURE SHOWS THE THE LEVELS OF SERVICE THE UNIT COST IN GROWTH PROJECTED GROWTH RELATED NEEDS OVER 10 YEARS IN THE NORTH OF THE BROAD LEVEL OF SERVICE CURRENTLY AS A POINT SIX SEVEN SQUARE FEET PER PERSON AND POINT 1 ONE ACRE PER THOUSAND PERSONS YOU CAN SEE THE UNIT COST.

CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR LIBRARIANS TWO TO EIGHTY FIVE DOLLARS FOR AN ACRE OF LAND IN THE NORTH IS FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS AND MULTIPLYING THOSE FACTORS BY THE POPULATION GROWTH IN THE NORTH WE GET AN ESTIMATED REVENUE WHICH I ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE OF THREE

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COULD THIS BE SPACE TO EXPAND A EXISTING LIBRARY? YES.

YEP. YEP YEP. SO YOU KNOW IT'S THE SAME WITH PARKS YOU CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS FOR EXISTING PARKS OR IF THEY'RE ON CONTRACTS LAND AROUND THE PARK YOU CAN YOU CAN ACTUALLY PURCHASE THAT LAND TO THE SORT OF EXPAND EXPANSIVE LIBRARY. YEAH. OK.

ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THE LIBRARY? YEAH. JUST DO IT TWO MORE.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. TWO MORE SLIDES.

SO WHAT YOU SEEN HERE IS THAT THE CASH FLOW ANALYSIS FOR NORTH OF THE BROAD WE HAD THE MAXIMUM SUPPORTABLE FEE HERE FOR SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY UNIT AGAIN.

THAT'S THAT'S JUST SORT OF AN AVERAGE SIZE FOR EACH. THOSE HOUSING TYPES.

WE'RE NOT PROJECTING HOUSING. IT'S BASED ON THOSE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS JUST TOO COMPLEX.

SO YOU WILL SEE HERE THAT THE PROJECTED REVENUE OVER 10 YEARS IN THE NORTH IS THREE POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING FOR EXPENDITURES. THE SLIGHT GAP HERE OF ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND IT'S FROM THE CREDIT THAT YOU SAID THAT THAT WILL OCCUR IN CASH FLOW ANALYSIS WHEN CREDIT IS INCLUDED. NOW THIS INCLUDES LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE NORTH THE COUNTY CITY OF BEAUFORT IN PORT ROYAL IF THEY DON'T COMMIT TO AN IPA YOU WILL SEE A FUNDING GAP HERE SOUTH FOR THE BROAD AS EXPECTED. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS SORT OF THE THE THEORETIC THEORETICAL ANALYSIS OF AN IMPACT FEE THAT GROWTH SHOULD PAY FOR ITS FAIR SHARE IN THIS CASE ITS FAIR SHARE IS THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE APPLYING THAT CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE TO FUTURE DEMAND AND IMPACT FEE MAXIMUM SUPPORT AMOUNT TO THAT FUTURE DEMAND THEY SHOULD EQUALLY DO EACH OTHER.

IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A THERE'S A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE BUT THAT'S JUST BASED ON ROUNDING UP THESE NUMBERS. SO THE GROWTH IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS WILL GENERATE THREE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN EXPENDITURES BUT ALSO THREE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE. THE INCREMENTAL EXPANSION METHODOLOGY THAT WE'VE APPLIED TO MOST COMPONENTS HERE ALLOWS YOUR PROJECTED REVENUE TO MEET YOUR DEMAND.

SO IF DEMAND SLOWS SO REVENUE BUT SO DOES YOUR COMMITMENT TO CONSTRUCTING NEW LIBRARIES.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF IF GROWTH PICKS UP IF GROWTH MOVES TO THE NORTH, SO WILL YOUR JUST YOUR REVENUE GENERATION. THAT POT OF MONEY IN THE NORTH ONLY GREATER AND SO WHERE YOU'RE YOUR COMMITMENTS TO BUILDING MORE MORE LIBRARIES. BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE FUNDS TO MATCH THAT. YEAH. SO WITH THAT I'LL OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. NICK ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. I MEAN THE QUESTION, PAOLO. ALL RIGHT.

I WILL READ IT. OH, LET'S SEE FOR FROM MARK LARSON.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IT IS ONE HUNDRED TWENTY DOLLARS SOMETHING PER PERSON IN THE SOUTH AND IT WAS ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DOLLARS SOMETHING IN THE NORTH WHEN THE LAND COSTS ARE TEN TIMES MORE IN THE SOUTH. THAT WAS FROM MARK GLASS AGAIN.

YEAH. IS THAT REALLY JUST GOES BACK TO THE LEVELS OF SERVICE YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT SO INTO LEVELS OF SERVICE UP IN THE TOP YOU CAN SEE YOUR BRANCHES FOR THE NORTH

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SO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE A LOWER LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE NORTH SORRY IN THE SOUTH BUT ALSO LESS PEOPLE PER HOUSEHOLD IN THE SOUTH AS WELL. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MARK? YES, CERTAINLY. OK.

ONE FROM YOUR GLOVER IS WITHOUT AN IDEA. IS THE VIEW FOR IMPORT OIL

GETTING A FREE RIDE? >> I'M NOT TOO SURE. I WOULDN'T SAY A FREE RIDE.

IF THE COUNTY IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING LIBRARY SERVICES TO ALL ITS CITIZENS THAT IS A BURDEN THAT IS PUT ON THE COUNTY IT WITHIN AN IMPACT FEEDS.

IT'S REALLY IT SORT OF GOES BACK TO HOW IT IMPACT FEES COLLECTED AND THAT'S BUILT WHEN A BUILDING PERMIT IS PULLED. SO THAT'S A COURT IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA MUNICIPALITY YOU'RE GOING TO THE DEVELOPER GOES IN THIS POLICY TO GET THAT BUILDING PERMIT AND THAT IS WHEN IMPACT FEES COLLECTED AND TO ENSURE THAT YOUR REVENUES ARE MEETING YOUR DEMAND. THERE SHOULD BE AN IDEA IN PLACE AND WE WITH WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL WE WILL HAVE 98. YEAH. YEAH.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.

SO MIKE KOVAC HAD A QUESTION. I'M A IF I'M A CURRENT LANDOWNER AND PAY PROPERTY TAXES ON THAT LAND AND THOSE TAXES ARE PUT INTO A GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR IT SCHOOLS PARK SIDE TRANSPORTATION ET CETERA. THEN I DECIDE TO BUILD ON THAT LAND AFTER THE IMPACT FEES GO INTO EFFECT. THEN AM I PAYING FOR THE SAME ITEMS AGAIN? IS THIS NOT DOUBLE TAXING ME? WELL, IT THAT'S SORT OF A VERY COMPLICATED SCENARIO.

IMPACT FEES GO INTO SEPARATE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS AND YOUR CAPITAL FACILITY SHOULD BE FUNDED BY THE GROSS FAIR SHARE SHOULD BE FUNDED THROUGH IMPACT FEES IF YOUR IMPACT FEES ARE SET TO THE RIGHT AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. GENERAL OPERATING FUNDS GO TO ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT SOURCES SO IT'S HARD TO SAY IN THIS SCENARIO WHICH IS YES.

WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM FACEBOOK. HAS ANYONE ASKED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IF YOU CAN BASE IMPACT FEES ON HOUSING UNIT SIZE ACCORDING TO STATUTE? I HAVE NOT WE HAVE NOT ASKED THAT QUESTION. TO MY KNOWLEDGE SO WE'LL KEEP YOU HAVE. I WOULD SAY THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND ALSO WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH CLEARY AND ASSOCIATES UP IN CHAPEL HILL, NORTH CAROLINA AND THE LOOK THROUGH THIS AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ISSUES. HOW HOW'S IT FEEDS BY HOUSING UNITS SIZE FROM COFFS HARBOR ON IN LOCALITIES WHERE THESE TYPES OF THINGS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED? WHAT EFFECT HAS IT HAD ON THE NEED TO RAISE GENERAL FUND REVENUES RELATIVE TO OTHER LOCALITIES THAT HAVEN'T IMPLEMENTED THESE TYPES OF IMPACT FEES? SO WITH YOUR BACKGROUND KNOWLEDGE.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? WELL, I COULDN'T SAY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE IMPACT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MANY RELATIONSHIPS. BUT WE DO DO FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS AS WELL. SO WE LOOK AT REVENUES EXPENDITURES AND WE DO MODELING AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AND WITHOUT IMPACT FEES GENERALLY YOU WILL BE USING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS IF THAT'S GENERAL PROPERTY TAX OR SALES TAX TO GO TOWARDS ONE TIME CASH CAPITAL ARGUMENTS. YEAH AND IT'S A DISCUSSION ON HOW YOU WANT TO BALANCE YOUR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE COMPARED TO YOUR OPERATING LEVEL OF SERVICE WHICH IS ALSO GENERAL FUND SUPPORTED BY THERE. ALL RIGHT.

HERE'S A QUESTION FROM YOUR GLOVER COUNCIL SET UP A SLIDING SCALE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING

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WORKFORCE OR NOT. SO WE HAVEN'T YET. I WOULD SAY OUR FEE SCHEDULE IS BASED ON EMPIRICAL ANALYSIS OF DEMAND BASED ON THESE HOUSING UNIT SIZES AND YOU SEE SAY FOR TRANSPORTATION BASED ON VEHICLE TRIPS FOR NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL THAT COUNTY HAS IN PLACE THERE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM WHICH ALLOWS THERE TO BE A CREDIT IN CASES WHERE DEVELOPMENT REACHES CERTAIN CERTAIN CRITERIA. IN ANY CASE, WHEN A COMMUNITY ADOPTS AN IMPACT FEE PROGRAM IT INCLUDES CREDITS OF THAT NATURE.

THAT IMPACT FEE PROGRAM STILL HAS TO BE MADE WHOLE. SO IF YOU CREDIT 20 PERCENT OF ALL APPLICATIONS OF BUILDING PERMITS THAT COME IN THAT 20 PERCENT FUNDING GAP, THAT PIECE OF THE PIE HAS TO BE MADE WHOLE. IT STILL HAS TO BE PAID.

YES, STILL HAS TO BE PAID. AND THIS GOES BACK TO THAT IDEA THAT THIS IS NOT A TAX.

THIS IS THIS IS A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THAT PROGRAM HAS TO BE MADE HOLD.

COUNCILMAN GLOVER, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, I THINK HE SAID YES.

>> AND WE CAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT TOO. HOW WE HOW WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE PLAN TO DO. OKAY. HERE'S A QUESTION FROM COUNSEL COVER FROM THE BORDER REALTORS. THE CONSULTANT SAID THEY HAVE DONE THIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

I'M INTERESTED IF THEY HAVE READ OUR STATE STATUTE IT SAYS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY IMPOSING AN IMPACT FEE MUST PROVIDE IN THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE THE AMOUNT OF THE IMPACT FEE DO FOR EACH UNIT OF DEVELOPER IN A PROJECT FOR WHICH AN INDIVIDUAL BUILDING PERMIT OR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED. THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY IS BOUND BY THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT FEE SPECIFIED IN THE ORDINANCE AND MAY NOT CHANGE HIGHER OR ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES FOR THE SAME PURPOSE UNLESS A NUMBER OF SERVICE UNITS INCREASES OR THE SCOPE OF THE DEVELOPMENT CHANGES AND THE AMOUNT OF THE ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES IS LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE ADDITIONAL SERVICE UNITS OR CHANGE IN THE SCOPE OF WORK.

IT SEEMS FEES SHOULD BE BASED ON UNITS THEY MIGHT DO. WHEN I SAW THEM EVERY NIGHT I CERTAINLY HAVE READ ESTATE STATURE CURRENTLY. I MEAN JUST EARLIER TODAY I WAS IN LANCASTER COUNTY COMPLETING THERE OR CONTINUING THEIR IMPACT FEE STUDY.

I'M ALSO UP IN EASLEY, SOUTH CAROLINA, LEXINGTON, SOUTH CAROLINA.

WE JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED OR A COUNTY IMPACT FEE STUDY WE ALSO COMPLETED THAT YOUR COUNTY IN FORT MILL CLOVER SCHOOL DISTRICT IMPACT FEES FOR YOUR ORDINANCE.

HE IS CORRECT THAT WHEN YOU INCREASE SORT OF THIS SERVICE UNITS THAT'S WHERE THAT DISH THAT SORT OF NET INCREASE THAT'S WHERE THE FEE COMES INTO PLAY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE HERE IF THERE'S A YOU'RE AT 15 100 SQUARE FEET UNIT GENERATES TO TWO PERSONS AND THAT'S CURRENTLY SORT OF ON THE GROUND TODAY AND YOU'RE EXPANDING TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS THAT BRING THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE SERVICE UNITS HIGHER.

YOU'RE JUST PAYING FOR THE NET INCREASE BECAUSE THAT THAT INCREASES THE ON ON YOUR FACILITIES. IT'S GREAT GROSS FAIR SHARE OF COUNCILMEN COVER.

DO YOU WANT TO CALL UP, MA'AM? >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. THAT'S GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAD ONE NOW. >> ALL RIGHT.

GO GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN, PARSIMONY WE THINK HE'S MUTED.

CANNOT HEAR YOU. SORRY. WENT ON MUTE.

KIDS ARE BEING PROPOSED. >> WE CHANGED TO A LOWER AMOUNT THAT COUNCIL.

YES. YEAH. YEAH.

I MEAN IT'S WE ARE PROVIDING THE MAXIMUM PORTABLE FEE HERE. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ADOPT THE MAXIMUM THAT WE SUPPORT AND YOU'RE CERTAINLY ALLOWED TO ADOPT THE LEVEL BELOW THAT.

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OK. >> MY QUESTION IS SECOND QUESTION IS ONCE THE FEES ARE ADOPTED CAN THEY BE CHANGED UP OR DOWN IN THE FUTURE EVERY FIVE YEARS CURRENT?

>> YEAH. YEAH. NOW WHAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN NOW I DON'T THINK IT'S INCLUDING THE AUDIENCE YET BUT WHAT WE WOULD INCLUDE IN THIS NEW UPDATE IS A INFLATIONARY FACTOR THAT WOULD INCREASE THESE FEES EACH YEAR IN TERMS OF THEN AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK YOU SHOULD BE UPDATING THIS WHOLE STUDY WHICH WILL ADDRESS ALL THE LEVELS OF SERVICE ALL YOUR CAPITAL NEEDS. WHAT'S PROJECTED INTO THE FUTURE IN THAT INFLATIONARY FACTOR? WE GENERALLY WOULD RECOMMEND QUOTE BE A CONSTRUCTION INDEX. CONSTRUCTION COST INDEX THE CPI IS USED IN OTHER CASES LIKE THE CONSTRUCTION INDEX. IT'S TRULY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BENG TO COST YOU BUILD FACILITIES. IT ALSO INCLUDES MEMORIES AS A KIND OF ACCEPTED.

IT'S ACCEPTED. YEP. AND WE DO THAT WE DO THAT.

ALL THE COMMUNITIES. OK. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

NO. >> NO. YOU ACTUALLY ASKED ANSWERED MY THIRD QUESTION WHICH WAS WHAT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE ADOPTED FOR BEFORE YOU'D HAVE TO CHANGE IT AGAIN? RIGHT.

YEAH. AND IT'S FIVE YEARS NOW THAT YOU KNOW IF THE UPDATE IN FIVE YEARS JUST SORT OF ADDRESSES WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. THERE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ANY SORT OF LARGE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE JUST THAT JUST THE FIGURE AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. AND GO AHEAD AND SAY SO WE'LL TACKLE EARMARKS NOW. THIS IS A NEW FEE. SO IN THAT CASE IT'S NO RGA IS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. BUT WHAT WE'VE ALSO DONE IS EXCLUDED THE HEAD ANALYSIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN MESS SERVICE DEPARTMENT ALSO IN THE FEE GENERATION.

WE'VE ASSUMED THAT ALL OTHER MUNICIPALITIES OTHER THAN HILTON HEAD HAVE ENTERED INTO IGAD. SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT WE'LL ADDRESS A FUNDING GAP THAT MIGHT BE IN PLACE SO THAT SO FAR OUR ANALYSIS HERE IN THE FEE WE'VE INCLUDED STATIONS AND YOU MISS VEHICLES LIKE WE'VE DONE IN THE OTHER TWO CASES WE'RE SETTING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO WHAT'S BEING PROVIDED TODAY AND ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING THAT INTO THE FUTURE. SO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TODAY IS POINT 1 7 SQUARE FEET PER PERSON GOMEZ STATIONS AND POINTS YOUR SIX SQUARE FEET PER NONRESIDENTIAL VEHICLE TRIP.

WE USED VEHICLE TRIPS AS A DEMAND FACTOR FOR THE NON RESIDENTIAL LAND USES IT DOES A BETTER JOB OF DETERMINE PROPORTIONALITY ON THESE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES THEN WOULD SAY JOBS PER THOUSAND. WHEN YOU LOOK AT VEHICLE TRIPS IT'S SCALED MORE PROPORTIONAL TO SAY WE RETAILS THE HIGHEST DEMANDING LAND LAND USE TYPE THAN OFFICE INDUSTRIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL. IF YOU WERE TO DO JOBS PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET YOU'D SEE THAT FLIP YOU'D ACTUALLY SEE A HIGHER DEMAND HIGHER DEMAND FACTOR FOR OFFICE BUT THAT IN REALITY WHERE WE'RE SEEING RETAIL BIG HIGHS GENERATOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES SO COUNTYWIDE EXCLUDING HILTON HEAD OVER 10 YEARS FOR EMI STATIONS YOU CAN SEE IN THE GRAY A TOTAL LEAD OF NEARLY TEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF NEW STATIONS AND THAT BRINGS US TO FOUR MILLION DOLLARS OVER TEN YEARS FOR M S VEHICLES. THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICES LISTED UP THERE AND THE UNIT COST THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PER AMBULANCE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE'RE PROJECTING A NEED OF NEARLY FIVE NEW UNITS.

I MEAN THAT BRINGS US TO ONE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS OVER 10 YEARS.

HERE IS THAT THE FEE SCHEDULE? YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CERTAIN COMPONENTS ON THE LEFT WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A CREDIT HERE FOR EXISTING DEBT AND SURE THERE'S NO DOUBLE PAYMENT ISSUES.

THE RESIDENTIAL FEE SCHEDULE IS THERE FROM NINETY FIVE DOLLARS PER UNIT UP TO TWO HUNDRED FIFTY EIGHT DOLLARS PER UNIT. I MEAN YOU CAN SEE THE RESIDENTS OF THE NONRESIDENTIAL FEE SCHEDULE BASED ON VEHICLE TRIPS RETAIL HAVING THE HIGHEST FEE OF THREE HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE DOLLARS PER THOUSAND WHILE INDUSTRIAL HAS FIFTY ONE DOLLARS PER THOUSAND SQUARE.

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SO WE HAVE A FUNDING GAP. ONE POINT FOR THAT IS A RESULT OF THE CREDIT THAT WE'VE INCLUDED TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO DOUBLE PAYMENT ISSUES. NOW THIS THIS CALCULATION HERE ASSUMES FULL PARTICIPATION BY THE GOVERNMENT DISPARITIES INCLUDING HEALTH HAD SO IT WAS A CASE THAT EITHER MUNICIPALITY WHERE WE'RE ENTERING AND A.J. FOR E M S FACILITIES YOU WOULD SEE THAT FUNDING GAP DECREASE. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COUNSEL? STARTING TO POSE A QUESTION. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN, EMBEZZLEMENT HAS A QUESTION.

>> YEAH. SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WHEN WHEN WE ARE GOING TO BE ADOPTING THESE FEES FOR INSTANCE, A MESS WE WOULD BE ADOPTING EVERY SINGLE LINE THE

NINETY FIVE UP TO THE OTHER ONE. >> DIDN'T TOTAL ABOUT GREAT.

YEP. OK. OK.

THANK YOU. IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR NORTH AND SOUTH CORRECT.

YEP YEP. YEP. AND THIS.

YEAH. THIS IS THE SORT OF COUNTY WIDE REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T SPLIT INTO TWO SERVICE AREAS IS BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH MY STAFF IS IT'S REALLY SORT OF ONE NETWORK OF UNION SO IF THERE'S CALLS UP IN THE NORTH UNITS IN THE SOUTH STILL HAVE TO FILL UP GAPS SUPPORT AND SO IT'S HARD TO SORT OF DIFFERENTIAL WHAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICES BETWEEN THE TWO AREAS BECAUSE OF THIS SORT OF FLUID NOTION OF OF THE VEHICLE.

IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE LIBRARIES WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO THE LIBRARIES SOUTH IF YOU HAVE ONE NOR EXACTLY. BUT IT CAN BE AN AMBULANCE AND AN AMBULANCE. YEAH. YEP.

YEAH AND THEY WILL RESPOND WHOEVER IS CLOSEST. YEAH.

AND THEN FILL THE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALICE THIS IS MARK SO I MEAN

IN. >> WAIT A SECOND. >> OKAY.

GO AHEAD. SO E MAPS JUST BASED UPON UNITS NEEDED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY TYPE OF FACILITY OR FOR ANY TYPE OF STRUCTURES LEGAL WE'VE INCLUDED EMR STATIONS AND EMS

VEHICLES. >> IT'S SORT OF SPLIT. YOU CAN SEE AN ON THE LEFT YOU KNOW MAYBE THREE QUARTERS IS INFESTATIONS ONE QUARTER OF STREET UNITS.

I WANTED TO LET OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW THAT GUESS WHERE WE'LL GET A COPY OF THIS SLIDE PRESENTATION? YEP YEP YEP YEP YEP. FULL REPORT AVAILABLE.

YEAH WE'VE GOT THE REPORT AND YEAH IT'S PRETTY LENGTHY IF YOU HAVE TIME THIS LABOR WEEKEND BRING IT WITH YOU TO THE BEACHES. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT M.S.? I DON'T SEE ANY ON THE CHART. SO NEXT WE'LL TACKLE HERE IS FIRE. CURRENTLY THERE IS A FIRE IMPACT IN PLACE NOW THERE THERE'S THREE FIRE DISTRICTS THAT WE'RE INCLUDING HERE THE BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DISTRICT WHICH IS IN THE SOUTH AND SURROUNDS BLUFFTON AND IN THE NORTH YOU HAVE SHELDON BURDEN LADY'S ISLAND AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

WE HAVE DETERMINED TO COMBINE THOSE THREE INTO ONE SERVICE AREA AND HAVE BLUFFTON SOUTH DISTRICT SEPARATE THERE IN THE NORTH THAT SERVICE AREA DOES EXCLUDE THE MUNICIPALITIES COUNTIES IT COULD BE THIRD IN PORT ROYAL BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD I SHOULD MENTION THAT THEY HAVE ALSO ADOPTED A FIRE FEE FIRE IMPACT FEE FOR THEIR FACILITIES. CURRENTLY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS ENTERED INTO AN RGA FIRM FOR FIRE FACILITIES BUT WE DON'T NEED ANY OTHER IGAD IN PLACE BECAUSE HEAD AND OTHER OTHERS HAVE EITHER ONE OF THEIR OWN DEPARTMENTS AND THEY'VE ALSO NOT BID.

THOSE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED AND YOUR LEVEL OF SERVICE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FIRE DEPARTMENTS PROVIDE SERVICE TO THEIR RESIDENTS IN THE NORTH.

WE HAVE THREE POINT THREE FIRE STATION SQUARE FEET FOR EDI YOU NOW.

IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THIS IN THIS PRESENTATION AND THAT'S EQUIVALENT DWELLING UNIT. SO WHAT WE'VE SAID THAT'S A FACTOR THAT WE SET THE DEMAND

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SO THAT'S COMMERCIAL RETAIL. EXACTLY. YEAH.

YEAH. IS AN EU BASED ON THEIR DEMAND YOU GET TO THE OTHER LEVELS OF SERVICE HERE IN THE NORTH. I'M OVER 10 YEARS WE'RE PROJECTING SEVEN POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN CAPITAL COSTS IN THE BLUFFTON FIRE DISTRICT LEVELS OF SERVICE HERE AND OVER 10 YEARS ELEVEN POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN EXPENDITURES FOR THE NORTH.

WE HAVE THREE COMPONENTS THE PRIOR STATION ADMIN FACILITIES AND FIRE APPARATUSES THAT GETS A TOTAL OF ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED ONE DOLLARS PER EU. WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A CREDIT HERE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO DOUBLE PAYMENT SCENARIOS. WE HAVE A NET TOTAL FOR EU OF 1100 DOLLARS. NOW BASED ON THE PERSONS PER HOUSEHOLD IN THE NORTH WE GET THE EQUIVALENT YOU. SO JUST FROM POINT FIVE ONE UNITS POINT FIVE ONE USE UP TO ONE POINT FOR USE IN THE FEE SCHEDULE SET TO THAT YOU CAN SEE FOUR UNITS BELOW TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. THERE'S ACTUALLY A DECREASE IN THE FEE WHILE THAT'S AN INCREASE UP TO FOUR HUNDRED SEVENTY ONE DOLLARS FOR THE FURTHER UNITS OVER 4000 SQUARE FEET ABOVE FOR THE BLUFFTON FIRE DISTRICT CALCULATIONS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME THING EDI USED BY HOUSEHOLD UNIT SIZE. THERE'S A DECREASE FOR THE SMALLEST HOUSING UNITS AND THEY INCREASE UP TO EIGHT HUNDRED THIRTY FOUR DOLLARS. THE FOUR LARGEST HOUSEHOLDS THE NONRESIDENTIAL FEE SCHEDULE FOLLOWS WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE TODAY IN THIS.

THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING TYPICALLY WITH LAND USE TYPE.

THIS IS BASED ON THE FIRE HAZARD WHICH IS DETERMINED BY THE FIRE DISTRICT, BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO EVEN MORE GETS EVEN MORE SOPHISTICATED TO THE PROPORTIONALITY. MAYBE SOME RETAIL IS A LOW HAZARD LOW IN SOME INDUSTRIAL HIGH HIGH END. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR FIRE IS MATCHING WHAT THEIR DEMAND IS AND YOU CAN SEE IT AS A BASE TO YOU AND THEN AN INCREMENTAL ADDITION BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE HAZARD LEVEL. SO IN NORTH OVER 10 YEARS USING THE MAXIMUM PORTABLE FEE AMOUNTS WE'RE PROJECTING SIX POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE TO THE TOTAL COST AT SEVEN POINT TO SEE A FUNDING GAP NINE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I MEAN THAT'S JUST A RESULT OF THE CREDIT THAT WE'VE INCLUDED BLUFFTON SEEING SIMILAR RESULTS TEN POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE THE NEXT 10 YEARS ELEVEN POINT TWO IN EXPENDITURES SO ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS AND A FUNDING GAP BUT THAT'S A RESULT AGAIN THE CREDIT PUT IN PLACE. OKAY. WE DID HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN ASSESSMENT. DOES THIS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEW STATION 38 BEING BUILT IN BLUFFTON? I BELIEVE SO, YEAH. WHAT WE'VE USED ALL THE CURRENT CURRENT FACILITIES IS BEING BUILT. YEAH GIVEN THAT.

YEAH. YEAH WE. BECAUSE IT'S IN AN IMPACT STUDY GENERALLY IF IT'S SORT OF UNDER UNDERWAY FACILITY LIKE THAT THAT'S SORT OF UNDER WAY.

KNOWING THAT THIS PROCESS DOES TAKE A WHILE THAT THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS SORT OF CALCULATED.

SO IT'S THEN YOU'RE FUTURE RIGHT AT THE END OF THIS YEAR WHICH IS WHERE THAT FACILITY WILL PROBABLY. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ANNEXATION NORTH IS A BROAD BECAUSE TOWNSHIP OIL CITY WE HAVE A CONSOLIDATED OUR HOWARD HOW WOULD WE ADJUST FOR THAT IF A ANNEXED A LARGE PORTION OF LAND? WELL, I GUESS I'D COLLECT THE IMPACT PIECE FOR IT, RIGHT? YES. THERE.

YEAH. YEAH. AND I I'M FORGETTING WHAT THE LEGISLATION HAS IN PLACE CONCERNING ANNEXATION YOUR ANNEXATION THAT IS EMPLOYEE IF THEY HAD ACTUALLY OKATIE IN PLACE THEY EITHER HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICE IN COVER OF THAT SERVICE THAT FURTHER IMPACTED BY THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO COLLECT THE IMPACT OR THEY CAN. YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. YEAH. SO SO IN THIS CASE IF YOU KNOW

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IT'S OUT FIRE SERVICES AND THEY HAVE THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT. SO THAT WOULDN'T BE A NEED FOR OFFSETS. THEY NEED TO PAY THAT THAT ADDITIONAL THING IF I DON'T PROVIDE. EXACTLY. YEAH YEAH YEAH.

SERVE IT IF FOR SOME REASON SERVICE WOULD BE PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY.

YEAH. YEAH. AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO OFFSET THEIR SINGING IN PARTICULAR ABOUT LADIES ON BECAUSE THAT ANNEXATION THERE.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I DON'T SEE ANY. >> ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN GLOVER HAS ONE.

YES. OH YEAH. YEAH.

ANNEXATION. WHAT? WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH IT IF IF THE COUNTY BROUGHT IN YEMEN C WHICH IS IN ANOTHER COUNTY INTO BEAUFORT THERE'S SUBJECT TO ALL THEIR PROPERTY OR THE U.S. WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SOME FORM OF IMPACT FREE.

>> YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. IN THAT CASE, WHATEVER SERVICE IS THAT WEREN'T BEING PROVIDED BY THE MUNICIPALITY THAT WOULD THEN BE PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY . THIS FAMILY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE UP AN IMPACT FEE.

DOES THAT ANSWER COUNCILOR GLOVER? YES.

THANKS. OH OH. LASTLY, THERE'S A COUPLE CONSIDERATIONS BY THE FIRE CHIEFS THAT IF A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HAS APPROVED SPRINKLER SYSTEMS PUT INTO THEIR UNITS THAT THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THE COMPACT FEE.

ALSO IF IT'S SINGLE FAMILY UNITS ABOVE 5000 SQUARE FEET IT WOULD BE THEIR DEMAND WOULD BE SET TO TWO TO USE BECAUSE YOU HOUSING UNITS THAT LARGE REQUIRE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT AND SPECIAL FACILITIES INCLUDING CERTAIN APPARATUSES LADDERS, LADDERS AND THOSE THOSE THINGS THAT SO FOR LAST YEAR AS THE TRANSPORTATION WE'RE USING A PLAN BASED APPROACH WHICH IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR US ALL. GET INTO THAT.

WE HAVE A NORTH AND SOUTH THE BROAD SERVICE AREAS AND CURRENTLY ALL MUNICIPALITIES ARE PARTICIPATING IN IGAD. SO IN THE NORTH WE HAVE A PROJECT LIST UP TO 20, 20, 30, 20 30 PROJECT FOR THE COUNTY. YOU CAN SEE IT'S LISTED HERE ON THE LEFT IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN IS THE TOTAL COST. SO THAT BRINGS US TO FIVE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS.

DURING THE PENNY REFERENDUM THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING USED TO OFFSET THESE COSTS. I MEAN IN THIS CASE IT'S 35 MILLION DOLLARS.

SO WE'VE INCLUDED THAT SORT OF IN THE COST ANALYSIS. SO WE DID IT IN ANOTHER CASE WE COULD INCLUDE THIS IN THE CREDIT BUT WE'VE SORT OF DONE IT WITHIN WITHIN THE CALCULATIONS AND SO HERE SOME OF THAT REMAINING DOLLAR AMOUNT THE COUNTY IS ANTICIPATING FUNDING 85 PERCENT OF THAT. SO 15 PERCENT COMING FROM OTHER AGENCIES.

SO WE HAVE THE NORTH 14 MILLION DOLLARS IN PROJECTS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS TO 2030.

NOW WHAT WE'VE DONE IS NOT SET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO TODAY BUT 2030 BECAUSE THAT THOSE FACILITIES ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING SERVER, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES TO TODAY'S RESIDENTS BUT ALSO FUTURE RESIDENTS. AND THESE PROJECTS CAME FROM THE LIST PROVIDED FROM A COUNTY GRANT CASING RIGHTS QUESTIONING WHERE THESE PROJECTS COMING FROM. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER WAYS OF DOING IT WHERE SOMETIMES WE WOULD GENERATE SORT OF A LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS TO GET GET A LIST LIKE THIS. BUT WHEN THIS LIST IS AVAILABLE WE CERTAINLY USE IT GET. AND SO WE WE'RE USING A 20 30 LEVEL OF SERVICE AND THAT'S BASED ON VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED . WE HAVE ABOUT A MILLION PROJECTED MILLION VMT VEHICLES MILES TRAVELED IN THE NORTH TO GET A CAPITAL COST PER VMT OF TWELVE DOLLARS. NINETY NINE CENTS IN THE SOUTH THE SAME ANALYSIS BUT DIFFERENT PROJECT LIST. THERE'S A TOTAL COST NEARLY 350 MILLION DOLLARS NEEDED OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. PENNIES IS OFFSETTING OKATIE MILLION OF THAT IN THE COUNTIES ANTICIPATING CONTRIBUTION FOR 85 PERCENT OF THAT. SO IT'S TWO HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 20 30 BMT SOUTH FOR THE BROAD WHICH IS ONE MILLION FIVE HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND. THAT GETS US TO A CAPITAL COST

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THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE DOLLARS PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET DOWN TO SEVENTY FOUR DOLLARS PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. AND THIS IS A DECREASE ACROSS THE BOARD NOT ALL DEVELOPMENT TYPES IN THE NORTH. WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT DECREASE AT THIS? KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 10 YEAR CAPITAL NEEDS.

SO IN THE PAST THERE IS A HIGHER LEVEL OF NEED FOR NEW ROAD NEW TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IS IN PLACE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO SET THE IMPACT FEE TO THE FUTURE NEED IN THE SOUTH YOU CAN SEE IN THE TOP WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED ANOTHER CREDIT FOR A FUTURE DEBT PAYMENTS TO ENSURE NO DOUBLE PAYMENT SITUATIONS AGAIN FOR THE FIRST FOUR COLUMNS ARE ILLUSTRATING THE CALCULATION TO GET TO THE VMT PER UNIT. WE HAVE A CAPITAL CORPUS MAXIMUM SUPPORTABLE FEE ON RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF ONE HUNDRED AND ONE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED TWENTY THREE DOLLARS UP TO THREE HUNDRED AND SAY THREE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT DOLLARS AND THE NONRESIDENTIAL SIDE RETAILS AT THREE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED SIXTY TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET . I MEAN EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS PER THOUSAND SQUARE FEET FOR INDUSTRIAL. I MEAN YOU CAN SEE FOR SOME RESIDENTIAL UNITS THERE'S A DECREASE IN FOR MOST NONRESIDENTIAL UNITS THERE'S ALSO A DECREASE WOULD YOU SEE INCREASES AROUND FIFTY EIGHT DOLLARS 200 PER 1000 300 FOR RESIDENTIAL AT FOUR HUNDRED THIRTY EIGHT DOLLARS INCREASE IN THE INDUSTRIAL NORTH OF THE BROAD THAT THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE TO SEE IS OUR PROJECTED REVENUE'S MEETING PROJECTED EXPENDITURES THIS OCCURS WHEN YOUR IMPACT FEE LEVELS ARE SET WHERE THEY SHOULD BE AT AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL BUT ALSO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CREDITS INCLUDED THAT ARE NECESSARY TO ENSURE THAT PAYMENT SCENARIOS IN THE NORTH AND ALSO WE'RE ASSUMING THAT ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE IGAD. SO PARTICIPATING IN G8 PROGRAM HERE IN THE SOUTH WE HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE THIRTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF PROJECTED REVENUE.

THIRTY SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS AND PROJECTED GROWTH OUTSIDE PROJECTED EXPENDITURES NOW THAT THIRTY SEVEN MILLION IS GROWTH FAIR SHARE. SO WE WERE SORT OF TALKING ABOUT A MUCH LARGER NUMBER YOU CAN SEE IT HERE TWO TO TWO HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS. NOW THAT'S THE COUNTY'S TOTAL COST BECAUSE WE ONLY CONTRIBUTING THIRTY SEVEN MILLION OF THAT TO GROWTH BECAUSE THESE FACILITIES ARE ALSO SERVING THE CURRENT CURRENT SYSTEM, THE CURRENT RESIDENTS, THE CURRENT JOBS.

SO WE'RE GENERATING REVENUE OF THIRTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS WITH A FUNDING GAP OF EIGHT HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND THAT SMALL AMOUNT IS JUST THE RESULT OF THE CREDIT THAT'S INCLUDED ENSURING DOUBLE PAYMENT THAT INCLUDES HELPING HAND TO DIED IN PROJECTS THERE.

YES. YES. THE OTHER PROJECTS AND ALSO CURRENTLY THERE'S IDEAS IN PLACE WITH PROBABLY SO WE'VE SORT OF ASSUMED THAT INTO THE FUTURE HERE IN THE ANALYSIS. ARE YOU READY FOR QUESTIONS? YEAH.

TRANSPORTATION QUESTIONS WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO SEE IF ANY ACCOUNTS MEMBERS HAD ANY.

WE HAD ONE ABOUT THE FIRE GOING BACK TO DOES THE FIRE IMPACT FEES FACTOR IN THE TWO FIRE STATIONS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION SOUTH? THE BROAD I BELIEVE SO YEAH.

YEAH YEAH WE'RE WORKING ON MAKING SURE THAT. CHIEF WILL VERIFY THAT.

YEAH WE FEEL PRETTY SURE AT OK COUNCIL MEMBERS QUESTIONS DALLAS THIS IS MARK OK MARK HAS LEFT IN HIS QUESTION AND THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF NOT JUST ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT PIECE IS THE MODEL WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FACT THAT WE INCREASE THE FEES IN THE MID SOUTH AND THERE THERE ARE KIND OF FEES THAT MAKES EVERYONE WANT THEM TO BUILD IN THE NORTH WHICH HAS LESS IMPACT THE HAVE THAT ADDED A LARGE INCREASE OF

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>> WELL, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE USING A PLANE BASED APPROACH HERE THIS IS WHERE THAT FIVE YEAR UPDATE COMES INTO PLAY NOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME MARKET SWEET WITHIN FIVE YEARS BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT NOT TO BE SUCH A LARGE SWING THAT WOULD PUSH THESE FEES TO BE OUT OF BALANCE. NOW THEY WILL AGAIN BE UPDATED IN FIVE YEARS.

SO IF YOU SEE THIS HUGE SWING IN THE NORTH WE WOULD DETERMINE WHICH PROJECTS ARE NECESSARY TO ADDRESS ADDRESS THAT MEANS AND THE MUNICIPALITIES WHEN YOU WORK WITH THEM THEY GET AN IDEA OF HOW MANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, HOW MANY APPROVED PD CORRECT. I MEAN YEAH I MEAN WE WERE THAT WE WERE USING THE TRANSPORTATION MODEL FOR THE PROJECTIONS THAT THE THC TRAFFIC ANALYSIS ZONES THAT IS USED FOR OUR WITHIN THE PROJECT LIST PROCESS THEY CAN PROJECT BASED ON THESE SMALL SUB AREAS OF THE COUNTY OK IN 10 YEARS THIS IS WHAT THIS SUB AREA LOOKS LIKE WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WIDEN THIS ROAD OR ADDRESS THIS INTERSECTION SO IT IS SORT OF IN TO WITH IT WITH WHAT THE PROJECT IS AND WITH WHAT THE TRAFFIC MODEL

PROJECTING THAT. >> OKAY COUNCILMAN LICENSE INTO QUESTION.

IT DOES. THANK YOU. GOOD.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HOW ABOUT GENERAL QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTATION? SOMETHING YOU MIGHT HAVE FORGOTTEN EARLIER AND NOT DONE YET? IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE UP HERE WITH ME.

OKAY. SO SO WE'VE COVERED ALL THE THE IMPACT FEE COMPONENTS NOW PART OF SOUTH CAROLINA REQUIRES US TO ADDRESS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY NOW IN THIS CASE BECAUSE WE WANTED AND WE WANTED TO SORT OF FOCUS THIS DISCUSSION ON THE COUNTY FEES AND WE'VE DONE A SEPARATE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ANALYSIS JUST FOR THE IMPACTS OF THE CHANGE IN THE COUNTY FEES WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SO THAT'S THE FIVE THAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE AND I CAN GO INTO IN DEPTH OF THIS ANALYSIS IF THAT'S NECESSARY BASED ON CURRENT DOLLARS THERE IS A ONE POINT FIVE POINT ONE PERCENT INCREASE IN HOUSING COST BURDEN IN THE NORTH. BASED ON THESE IMPACT FEES IN THE SOUTH IS THE SAME WE'RE SEEING HERE. SO THE FIRST THE FIRST TABLE SHOWS THAT THE MONTHLY INCOME AND MONTHLY COST TODAY AND IN THE SECOND TABLE SHOWS THE SAME INCOME BUT THEN ON TOP OF THAT WHAT WITH THE COST BURDEN WOULD BE WITH THE INCREASE IN COMPACT FEES.

SO THE CHANGE IMPACT FEE AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE SOUTH THAT'S A FIVE DOLLAR INCREASE INTO THE MONTHLY COST BURDEN. IT ALSO SHOULD BE NOTED THAT MONTHLY INCOME IS SET 80 PERCENT OF THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR EACH SERVICE AREA AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CURRENT HOUSING COSTS AND CURRENT INTEREST RATES AND UTILITY RATES AND CABLE CABLE AND ALSO TO OTHER MUNICIPAL FEES AND THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT 80 PERCENT OF THE AVERAGE MEDIAN.

YES. YEAH. YEAH.

SO YEAH IT SORT OF GOES BACK TO HUD'S DEFINITION OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN THEIR DEFINITION IS HOUSING COSTS THAT ARE ABOVE 30 PERCENT ARE CONSIDERED MODERATELY BURDENSOME ONCE YOU REACH 50 PERCENT. IT'S ANOTHER SPECIAL I'M FORGETTING IT FORGIVE ME THE TERMINOLOGY BUT SO REALLY THAT THAT 30 PERCENT IS WHERE HUD DETERMINES THAT HOUSING COSTS ARE OUR BURDENSOME. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING.

THE STATE LEGISLATION HASN'T HAD IT INDICATE ANY OTHER SORT OF METHODOLOGY.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH WHERE EVEN THE BASE CONDITION RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 34 PERCENT SO JUST SLIGHTLY BURDENSOME FOR A

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SO WE'RE SEEING HOUSE HOUSING COSTS ARE AT APPROPRIATE LEVEL AND IN THE NORTH AT TWENTY SEVEN POINT ONE PERCENT AND THEY INCREASED TWENTY SEVEN POINT TWO PERCENT OR A FIVE DOLLAR INCREASE PER MONTH WITH THAT OPEN QUESTION. ALL RIGHT.

OH YOU CAN PUT YOUR HEADPHONES OUT. THERE YOU GO.

HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBERS QUESTIONS. YES.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THIS PRESENTATION. >> WHAT I NEED IS SOMETHING THAT I SENT TO SARAH THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

IT WILL SHOW ALL OF THE IMPACT FEES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED THAT WE HAVE.

I'VE THEN SEPARATED IT INTO NORTH OF THE BROAD SINGLE FAMILY NORTH OF THE BROAD MULTI-FAMILY SOUTH IS THE BROAD SINGLE SOUTH TO THE BROAD MULTI-FAMILY WHETHER WE HAVE A G.A. AND WHAT THE FEES ARE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME IDEA OF WHAT THE FEES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AND THE TOLLS VACATION INSPIRATION THAT'S WHAT I THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER LIKE A SPREADSHEET THAT JUST KIND OF SHRUGS EVERYTHING ON ONE PAGE.

YEAH, YEAH. PRESUMABLY THAT WILL HELP IN THE DISCUSSION AS TO WHERE WE

GO TO HELP IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. >> YEAH.

YEAH. WE HAVE WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO THAT AND WE BRING

THAT UP. >> DO WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ALEX I ASK ONE IF YOU WANT

TO GET A CHANCE. >> GO AHEAD. HE'S GOT HIS HEAD FUNDS ON.

MR. CARLIN YOU BUILT YOUR STUDIES BASED ON A LOT OF DECISIONS FROM THE DATA FROM THE 2010 CENSUS. IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK BY 2018 SORRY WHEN WE GET THE U.S. CENSUS EVERY 10 YEARS AND THE U.S. CENSUS ALSO PROVIDES A SURVEY ANNUALLY CALLED AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY. THERE'S USUALLY A YEAR OR TWO LAG AND WE'RE USING THE 2018 DATA WHICH IS AS GOOD AS WE CAN GET RIGHT.

BUT A QUICK QUESTION WOULD BE IF FOR ANY REASON A CENSUS UNDERCOUNTED COMMUNITY WHAT

KIND OF IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE ON THAT COMMUNITY? >> IF IT IS UNDERCOUNTED WE KNOW THE POPULATION FOR EXAMPLE, IS A GOOD ONE THAT WE'RE USING THAT IN A LOT OF

CASES TO DETERMINE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE. >> SO ESPECIALLY IN CERTAIN CASES THERE MIGHT BE SCENARIOS WHERE YOUR POPULATION IS BEING UNDERCOUNTED NOW.

2020 WILL EVENTUALLY GET CENSUS DATA AND WITHIN UP THE NEXT YEAR OR FIVE YOUR UPDATE THEN CENSUS DATA WILL STILL BE PRETTY FRESH SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SORT OF GO BACK TO THAT.

COUNCILMAN GLOVER DID THAT ANSWER A QUESTION? >> I'M NOT TOO SURE BUT I'LL GO

WITH IT. >> IF THEY WOULD THEY WOULD JUST UNDERCOUNTING POPULATION WOULD RESULT IN THE LEVELS OF SERVICE MIS MATCHING WHAT'S BEEN SUCH AS HOW MANY AMBULANCES YOU MEAN? YEAH PARKING COULD BE AN HOUR APART OR A THOUSAND AMBULANCES THOSE THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POPULATION IS RIGHT OFF MY HEAD BUT IT'S PRETTY LARGE AND BLUFFTON. SO A MISCOUNT OF A THOUSAND FOLKS REALLY MIGHT NOT EVEN SHOW WAS BASED ON ROUNDING IN THESE FEES.

AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY DOES DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF STAYING ON TOP OF.

THEY ACTUALLY SURVEY HOMES THREE TIMES THE VERY LEAST FIFTEEN HUNDRED HOMES EACH YEAR WITHIN WITHIN THEIR THEIR AREAS AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO KEEP TRACK FROM THE 10 YEARS THE

ANNUAL CENSUS I IT. >> GLOVER IT'S COMING FROM IS THE MORE RURAL AREAS WHERE YOU

HAVE LESS PEOPLE. >> RIGHT. OF DEALING WITH RECREATION IN PROVIDING SERVICES FOR RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES HE'S GETTING FROM THE COUNTY

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THAT'S ALL OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE OUR QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. I MADE SOME COMMENTS. YEAH.

BEFORE THERE WAS THERE WAS A QUESTION BUT FOR A WHILE AGO ABOUT THE SORT OF STATE IMPACT THESE STIFLING GROWTH IN WE REACHED OUT TO YOUR COUNTY, THE FORT SCHOOL DISTRICT IS NOT ADOPTED. EIGHTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS SCHOOL IMPACT AID TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN TREND WISE IN THE SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY PERMITS.

NOW WE'VE COVERED HAPPENING THERE IS THERE WAS A DECREASE BUT THE PRE COVERED MONTHS OF THIS YEAR ONCE THE IMPACT FEES CAME INTO PLACE AND THEY SAW TOO.

SO THAT WOULD BE JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH. IT WAS ADOPTED IN THIS AREA.

YEAH. YEAH. SO IT STARTED IN JANUARY.

SO REMOVING JUST LOOKING AT JEREMY FEBRUARY IN MARCH AND 2019 THERE ARE TWO HUNDRED AND SIX SINGLE FAMILY HOME PERMITS PULLED WITHIN THE FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THIS YEAR THERE ARE TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHT SO THERE IS THERE IS AN INCREASE.

AND LOOKING AT THE MONTHS OF COVE AND THE HOUSING MARKET ACTUALLY FARED BETTER THAN THE ECONOMY IN GENERAL THERE WERE STILL HOMES BEING THAT I THINK IS STILL MOVING FORWARD.

>> WE DID GET A LETTER FROM THE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION HOUSING MANUFACTURERS THAT WERE SENT OUT TO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL GET THAT TO YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON FACEBOOK? OH, I SEE. ONE AS A BEAUFORT COUNTY ROADWAY SYSTEM INCREASES THE IMPACT FEE INCREASE. SO SORRY.

IT COULD BE FOR COUNTY ROADWAY SYSTEM INCREASES. WILL THE IMPACT FEE INCREASE THE IMPACT FEE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION IS BASED ON A 10 YEAR PROJECT LIST THAT'S NEEDED TO HELP CURRENT DEMAND FOR 10 YEARS FOR 10 YEARS IN THE FIVE YEAR UPDATE TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT IT'S AT THAT POINT. THAT'S SAY ONLY WHEN I SAY FROM FACEBOOK.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER THIS WORK WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT TOO. I WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS IF THEY WANT TO ASKING QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND WE WILL ADDRESS THE CITIES THE TOWN OF WHARTON CITY BEFORE IN MORE DETAIL, MA'AM.

YES, YES. WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO THEM IN OUR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.

OF COURSE. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE NO COMMENT.

OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> ALL RIGHT. >> AT THIS TIME WE WILL INVITE

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HAVE WE READ ALL THE COMMENTS? YES. OUR RECEIVED IS THIS ANYONE

ELSE RECEIVED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER? >> I DON'T HEAR ANY.

THIS WORKSHOP HAS BEEN VERY USEFUL. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME GOING THROUGH IT. IT'S A HARD SUBJECT. SUBJECTS AND WE WILL.

WE DID DO HAVE YOU GRAPH STUDY BUT THE SLIDES WILL BE VERY HELPFUL IN CALCIUM.

PESSIMIST HAS SENT YOU A SPREADSHEET THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT FITS IN WITH YOUR DATA. MAYBE EASY TO POPULATE. YEP.

SO THAT I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ALL OF US WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS DECISION PROCESS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS MR. GREEN? WHY DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER

COMMENTS? >> ADDRESS YOU YOU'RE WORKING. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR THE BROADCAST. I THINK THAT HELPED A LOT. I GET IT NOW.

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YES, MISS BROCK. >> HERE IS ANOTHER COMMENT FROM THIS COSPLAY ON FACEBOOK.

IT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT. THEY ARE WAY HEALTHY. LOOK HERE.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? YEAH. FROM WHAT? IS THERE A POINT IN PLAY MAYBE EVEN WHEN THEY ARE WAITING FOR HOW THINGS DEVELOP? NOW WHAT WE FOUND IN I COULD SPEAK THAT I KNOW THE GENERAL IS THAT THERE IS AN IMPACT FEE OR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY FUND SET UP TO HELP HELP MITIGATE THE IMPACT FEES FOR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY PROJECTS. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE INCREASED.

ONE TIME OR ANOTHER IT MAY HAVE TO BE INCREASED IN THE ORDINANCE.

WE HAVE. I'M LOOKING TO MR. GREENWAY BUT WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ON A RECURRING THOUGHT RECURRING AT THIS TIME IS ONCE PORTIONS OF IT IS USED.

IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY REDUCE TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO FROM TIME TO TIME CONSIDER REPLENISHING THAT FUND THAT IT SET UP BUT WE WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW WE FUND IT.

YEAH, IT. IT'S TAKEN A YEAR TO YEAR FUND. YEP.

ALL RIGHT, MISS PARK, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT'S THE MONEY? RIGHT. IN THAT THEY SUBMITTED A COMMENT IN OUR LITTLE THING THAT WE GO IN FOR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT GOOGLE DOCS WAS SOLID AND HE'S ADDRESSED EVERYTHING BROUGHT UP ON IT. CORRECT.

YEAH. YEAH. IF YOU'D LIKE I COULD GO TO THE GOOGLE DOC. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. IN GENERAL SAYING SAME QUESTIONS. YEAH I FEEL LIKE EVERY I HAVE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING.

OH THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. I DON'T. I DON'T BELIEVE I SEE MAKE CHANGES. COMMENT HERE. RIGHT.

POSSIBLE. OKAY. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

WE

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