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FOLLOWS MEETING TO ORDER IF YOU WOULD PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE. I ASSUME THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLICLY NOTICED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE YEAR. YES, IT HAS.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

OK. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE AGENDA, SEE IF WE CAN APPROVE THE AGENDA. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS FROM

THE AGENDA? >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN ADDITION OF ONE ITEM. THERE IS AN ITEM THAT I SHOULD SENT IN.

IT WAS MY FAULT. IT WAS AT THE BOTTOM OF MY PILE AND GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING THIS MORNING. I FORGOT TO DO. YOU WILL SEE IT IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S CALLED COUNTY COUNCIL VALUE.

>> THERE ARE 12 POINTS TO THAT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA SO I WILL MAKE THE

OCEAN WITHOUT OBJECTION IT HAS BEEN ADDED. >> AND DOES ANYBODY ELSE WELCOME ALICE IF YOU NEED A SECOND. MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL DO THAT.

THANK YOU. >> I'M HERE AND IT IS NUMBER 17 I GUESS FROM 16 GERMAN BECOME

17 BY I'M BACK WITH YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

[6. CITIZEN COMMENT (Every member of the public who is recognized to speak shall limit comments to three minutes ‐ Citizens may email sbrock@bcgov.net, or comment on our Facebook Live stream to participate in Citizen Comment)]

NOW CAN YOU HEAR ME? I GOT SOME COMMENT ANYWAY. ARE YOU READY? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM CITIZENS REGARDING ANYTHING ON OUR AGENDA?

>> WAS THAT A NO? >> NO, SIR. >> I'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY.

[7. AGENDA ITEM SUMMART SHEET MODIFICATIONS]

ALL RIGHT. NONE. MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN WHICH IS AGENDA SUMMARY SHEET MODIFICATIONS. I BELIEVE EVERYONE HAS RECEIVED GARRICK, CAN YOU READ IT? WHAT AMOUNTS TO EIGHT? YES, I CAN.

ITEMS SOME OF WHICH HAVE TWO PAGES. BUT THOSE THOSE ITEMS THOSE EIGHT ITEMS WILL TRACK THE AGENDA. HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT HIM. IF NOT, YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT THEM AS WE GO THROUGH MR. CHERISHED ITEM. LET ME MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FIRST.

MR. CHAIRMAN, EVERYBODY'S HEARD SOMEBODY TRYING TO SPEAK. YES, SIR.

>> I JUST GOT A TEXT MESSAGE THAT THE AUDIO IS DOWN. AUDIO IS DOWN.

ANYBODY LISTEN UP BEFORE YOU GOT HERE? >> I THINK IT'S HARD ON THE BROADCASTING IS GOING TO CHECK IF YOU DON'T MIND. HOLD ON FOR A SECOND.

NO, NO, NO, NO. HOLD. THANK YOU ALL.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. WE WERE YOUR COMMENTS BE ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

ARE THEY SOMETHING ELSE? >> NO. MY COMMENTS WILL BE ABOUT THE THE THE TOTALITY OF WHAT THE EXECUTIVE COMMISSION IS COMMISSION IS TAKING ON THAT THEY WON'T BE ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC. NO.

WELL, I REMEMBER THANKS. >> I HAVE A I HAVE ONE RECOMMENDATION WHEN WE'RE BACK ON LINE. LET ME KNOW WHEN ONE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND START.

OK. WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITEM NUMBER SEVEN?

>> BRIAN SIX WAS THE IS IN COMMON. >> YOU'RE CORRECT.

YOUR LINE OF NUMBER SEVEN THE AGENDA SUMMARY SHEET. YEAH, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS

ABOUT THAT MYSELF. >> OK. GO AHEAD BRIAN.

>> THANK YOU, PAUL. YOU KNOW I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON HERE THE RESULTS OF PREVIOUS VOTES OF VARIOUS BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES AND YOU KNOW THE DATES OF THOSE

VOTES AND THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE SIX FOR WHATEVER. >> THANK YOU.

>> NOT IGNORING YOU AND MAKING A NOTE I FIGURED AS MUCH. PAUL, I SEE YOU LEANING OVER

RIGHT? >> I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO SEE THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO

VOTED EITHER WAY AS WELL. >> WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH. >> WELL, YOU KNOW MY THOUGHT WAS THAT IF I SAW A VOTE THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE CONTROVERSIAL OR SHALL I LOOK AT THE MINUTES OR THE VIDEO OF THAT PARTICULAR MEETING AND GET THAT KIND OF DATA HERE TO ARGUMENTS ONE SIDE

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AND THE OTHER FOR MYSELF? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THE NAMES ARE PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT CERTAINLY NOT TO ME. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE ASKING CHRIS.

>> I DON'T KNOW LOGISTICALLY WHAT KIND OF A TASK THIS WOULD BE.

>> WE'LL SORT OF TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THERE IS GOING TO NEED SOME MORE

HELP. >> OH NO, SIR. THERE'S ACTUALLY IT'S DONE BY STAFF. THEY THOUGHT THE AGENDA ITEM SUMMARY SHEETS, WHATEVER THEY TURN INTO TONIGHT ALSO WILL WHAT I WROTE DOWN FROM BRIAN'S COMMENTS WAS THAT WE MIGHT LIKE TO SEE THE VOTE IN DATES AND OUTCOMES OF WHETHER IT'S ALL OR SOME OR MEDICAL MEANS DIFFERENT

THINGS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. >> SO ANYWAY, OUTCOMES OF I GUESS FOR NOW SAY ALL VOTES FORMAL BOATS OF AGENCY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND CHRIS'S ADDITION I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AND HOW PRACTICAL WEB RIBAUT TO LOOK AT IT. THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS I MEAN THE VAST MAJORITY I THINK OF THE OUTCOMES OF THE BOARDS AGENCIES AND COMMISSIONS ARE GOING TO BE NON-CONTROVERSIAL OR I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IF IT'S WORTH OUR WHILE TO PUT DOWN THE VOTE. THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS VOTES ON EVERY SINGLE ONE.

IT MAY BE WORTH HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT. ALL RIGHT.

AND UH, JOE, YOU HAD A COMMENT ABOUT ITEM NUMBER. >> YES.

YES. AND BRIAN KIND STOLE MY THUNDER.

YEAH. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW AS WE'RE MOVING FROM FIRST READING OR SECOND READING OR CONTRACT OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON WHEN IT WAS DONE, WHAT MEETING IT MAY HAVE BEEN DONE AT.

SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.

THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT WAS IN ORDER TO HELP IS FOR THE TIMING OF OUR COUNTY MEETINGS OR COMMITTEE MEETINGS IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW BECAUSE AS WE'RE PUTTING THE AGENDA TOGETHER WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING TO THE INDIVIDUALS SAYING WELL HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? AND IF WE HAD THAT AS SOME SORT OF GUIDANCE FOR OURSELVES, IT WILL HELP US TO MOVE THE MEETING ALONG.

YEAH, I ASSUME THE REASON YOU PUT THIS UP, SARAH, IS THAT SOME OF THIS INFORMATION MAY

ALREADY BE BEING CAPTURED. >> THAT'S OUR SHOW AND WHAT IT IS WE DID NOT HAVE A SPOT ON THERE FOR THE TIME THAT IT WILL TAKE. I KNOW MR. HIRSCHHORN HAS

SUGGESTED IT AND WE CAN ADD IT. >> OK, THAT TIME IT WILL TAKE PROPOSED.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE VOTES OF THE AGENCY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO LOOK TO STAFF TO PROVIDE TO YOU AND THEN YOU CAN

ADD IT TO THE TO TO THE BACKUP OR THE AGENDAS? >> YES, SIR.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO GOES THAT ALREADY. IT'S NOT THE AGENCY'S COMMISSIONS WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT. IT'S WHAT ACTION THE BOARD THE COUNCIL TOOK. NOT NOT THE SAME BORDER AGENCY OR THE FACT THAT WE'RE PUTTING SOMEBODY ON A BORDER AGENCY. IT'S WHAT WE AS COUNSEL DID AT A FIRST READING FROM A COMMITTEE OR A SECOND READING FROM A COMMITTEE OR WHAT COUNSEL IS GOING TO BE DOING AND ACTING ON BECAUSE IT WAS DONE AT A PARTICULAR COMMITTEE THIS DAY.

THIS DAY. AND HERE WAS THE VOTE FOR THAT .

I THINK THAT'S WHAT BRIAN WAS SAYING. >> I'M NOT SURE BRIAN I HEARD YOU MENTIONED ALL BOARDS AGENCIES, COMMISSIONS. DID I MISUNDERSTAND YOU?

>> YEAH, YOU HEARD ME CORRECT. PAUL. I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING, FOR INSTANCE, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE BOARD OR COMMISSION MAY HAVE MADE.

I'LL BE I'LL BE HONEST. I THINK THAT A LOT OF A LOT OF TIMES THE DISCUSSION AT THE AIRPORT'S BOARD OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT ARE RECOMMENDING ACTIONS TO US A LOT OF TIMES THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE VERY HELPFUL IN ME RULING OUT QUESTIONS THAT I MAY HAVE AND I MAY DECIDE TO ASK. IN OTHER WORDS, I CAN LOOK AT THE ANSWER TO A QUESTION BY AIRPORTS BOARD MEMBER AND IT'S MORE OR LESS THE SAME ANSWER I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN TO MY QUESTION. AND SO IT REALLY HELPS ME DEVELOP MY SET OF QUESTIONS SO THEY'RE NOT REPETITIVE TO THE RECORD AND SO I THINK I THINK THAT THE RESULTS OF BOARD AND COMMISSION ACTIVITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

>> I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS EXPANDING THE THE VERY SHAPE THAT SARAH PUT UP THERE.

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I DON'T KNOW HOW I'VE NO IDEA HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE TO DO ALL THE AGENCIES BOTH MISSIONS . BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR SETTING. BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THE LOGISTICS OF IT LOOK LIKE. AND THEN IF IT'S IF IT'S PROHIBITIVE FOR SOME REASON WE'LL COME BACK AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE HOW MANY HOOPS WE WANT TO JUMP THROUGH OR HOW MUCH WE WANT TO PUT INTO, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF WORK. I THINK IT TO BE REPORTED KNOW WHAT THE LOGISTICS LOOK LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO I MEAN WE COULD WE HAVE THE SCREENING.

>> WE HAVE THE DOCUMENT LISTS NO WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT SO THAT USE IN THIS SHEET AND

SEEING HOW IT WORKS THAT'S UP TO ALL. >> YEAH IF YOU WOULD PASS SOMETHING TO ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHICH WOULD BE AN AMENDED VERSION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. LOOK TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT JOE SUGGESTED WHICH IS I HAD THE RESULTS OF ALL PRIOR VOTES BY COUNCIL AND I GUESS TO THAT YOU CAN ADD AN OMISSION COMMISSION VOTES. COURSE I WOULD PARTICULARLY APPLY THE PLANNING RULE AND CRITICAL THAT I MEAN IF I UNDERSTAND IT EVERYBODY WOULD LIKELY COMPLETE COMPLETE HISTORY OF THAT WHATEVER THAT ITEM IS, WHERE DID IT BEGIN AND HOW BEGIN I WAS IT HATCHED? HOW WAS IT BIRTH AND THEN MOVED ALONG THE CHAIN AND WHAT THE VOTES WERE ALONG THE WAY?

IS THAT WHAT THE WILL OF THE BODY IS? >> YES, SIR.

OK. SARAH, YOU GOT LISTED FOR A STARTER.

OK. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ON ITEM 7 WILL WANT TO KNOW THAT. HAS TO DO TWO THINGS. HISTORICALLY WE ACTUALLY HAD MOST OF THAT RIGHT ON THE AGENDA WHERE WE COULD LOOK BACK AND SEE WHAT THE PRIOR ACTIONS WERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EASY OR NOT BUT IT WAS USEFUL IN THE PAST. AND SECONDLY, THE IDEA OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT'S COMING OUT OF OUR 20 30 COMMISSIONS, BOARDS AND AGENCIES WOULD BE HARD TO KEEP UP WITH.

BUT PERHAPS THERE'S SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES THAT CHAIR OF THAT BOARD GIVES US A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT HAPPENED ALONG THE WAY. SO I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW WE

CAN TWEAK IT. >> I THINK WHAT SARAH IS GOING TO SEND OUT IS OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO EDITORIAL COMMENT BY ALL OF US INCLUDING ADMINISTRATION AND WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES. YES, MA'AM. ALEX, YOU KNOW IF SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A LINK TO THE MINUTES MIGHT BE EASIER FOR EVERYBODY. THAN HAVING TO REITERATE EVERYTHING IN WRITING AGAIN JUST A LINK TO THE STORMWATER BOARD MINUTES OR A LINK TO

WHATEVER. SO THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. >> ALICE.

THANK YOU. YEAH. SARAH BUT YOU COULD WEIGH ON WHETHER THAT WOULD BE EASIER OR NOT. SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD.

I DON'T KNOW THEN WE CAN. WE CAN TRY A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS IN THIS OUT.

ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE EDIT EDITS ON WE CAN DO THAT. I THINK HAVING THE VOTES ON THE YES JUST LEAVES THE AGENDA A LITTLE CLEANER. WE HAVE THAT LISTED ON HERE THAN YOU CAN EVEN QUICKLY GO TO THE ASPCA AND THEN WE CAN LINK TO BOARD MINUTES.

IT'S TOUGH TO ALL. I'LL E-MAIL THIS OUT AND THEN DO WHATEVER IT WILL THAT YOU.

[8. FINANCE COMMITTEE ISSUES]

SOUNDS GOOD. THE ITEM NUMBER HE TALKS ABOUT FINANCE COMMITTEE ISSUES AND JUST SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO USURP THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS THINK ABOUT IF ALL OF THESE OR SOME OF THESE ARE IN FACT A SIZABLE TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND GET CHRIS'S THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN ON THAT. SO I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE.

SOME OF THEM ARE NOT. SO I GUESS WHAT I'LL ASK IS, CHRIS, IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. I CAN SEE YOU AS WE GO FORWARD AND THEN IF THERE'S ONE THAT I DON'T THINK GOES TO FINANCE AT, I'LL I'LL SAY THAT THE FIRST ONE IS DELINQUENT TAXES.

I THINK THAT THAT DEFINITELY YOURS. VERY GREAT.

GREAT. >> AND THEN THE TWO. TWO 1920 BUDGET AND THE SUBCATEGORIES THERE TO MATCH. AND IN FINANCIAL POLICY REVIEWS I ASSUME THAT YOU DIRECT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. >> AND THEN EMPLOYEE PAY ISSUES RECENT INCREASES VACANCIES BUDGET DIRECTOR POSITION. I MEAN ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE DISCUSSION.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR TODAY. THE CONS ARE THAT THE ISSUE ITSELF GENERALLY BELONGS TO FINANCE UNLESS YOU SAY OTHERWISE. NUMBER FIVE.

YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> YEAH. SKIP NUMBER FOR THE OK

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PERSONNEL POLICIES REVIEW I EQUIPPED AND I COULD GO EITHER WAY ON THAT.

>> I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME ASPECTS OF THAT WHICH MAY BELONG AND FINANCE AND A LOT OF ASPECTS THAT DO NOT. YEAH I GUESS IF IT DOES NO BELONG IN FINANCE IT PROBABLY WOULD GO TO THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND WHAT'S CLEARLY FINANCE WOULD SAY IN FINANCE

THAT SOUND RIGHT? >> YEAH. >> LIKE YOU KNOW THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF LIKE SICK LEAVE. I THINK THAT SHOULD THAT SHOULD GO TO THE FINANCE WHETHER OR NOT TO DO SICK LEAVE. I MEAN THAT SHOULD PROBABLY GET THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AS WELL AS AN EXAMPLE. YEAH. AND THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK FUNERAL LEAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU MENTIONED IT'S SICK OR SICK. DAVID ALL RIGHT.

FINANCIAL IMPACT. ANYTHING THAT HAS IMPACTS IN THAT REGARD AND I'M COMFORTABLE HAVING A FINANCE. NO. NUMBER SIX AFTER A REVIEW I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR WITH YOU AGREE? I AGREE.

OK. >> THANK YOU. THE NEXT ONE IS THE COUNTY

CONTRACTS. OH WAIT. >> I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY THAT THAT COMMENT JUST ONE ON NUMBER THREE D.C. ON NUMBER FOUR SAY AGAIN THE

COMMENT WAS PUT ON THE WRONG NUMBER. >> SARAH'S GOT IT.

OH I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN IT GOES ON FOR. YEAH.

YEAH. SHE HAD GREAT TRIGGER FINGER THERE ANNIE OAKLEY BUT SHE BY ROY THEN WE GO ON TO NUMBER SEVEN COUNTY CONTRACT FROM SEVERAL OF US MAYBE ALL OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED. TO HAVE A WAY TO REVIEW EXISTING CONTRACTS WE ALREADY REVIEW UPCOMING CONTRACTS BEYOND A CERTAIN THRESHOLD. ASSUME WE WANT ONLY THE THRESHOLD WHERE IT IS. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE CONTRACT PENCILS.

BUT BUT BUT THE THRESHOLD BEYOND THE THRESHOLD UM THE CONTRACTS NEED TO BE AVAILABLE AND I. THAT'S OBVIOUSLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATION ITEM. THE QUESTION IS UH THERE IS ANY PARTICULAR COMMITTEE NEEDS TO GET NEED TO GET INVOLVED. SEEMS TO ME THE LOGICAL THING WOULD BE TO HAVE ADMINISTRATION JUST PRESENTED TO IT WHENEVER PERIODICALLY AND AND WE COULD SEE IT THAT WHY DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT? BASICALLY YOU ACTUALLY SINCE I AND I KNEW THIS.

>> YES, SIR. SO I WAS GOING TO ASK WOULD IT BE HELPFUL FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE A LIST OF CONTRACTS MAYBE ACCESS TO A DATABASE AND THEN YOU COULD SEE WHEN THINGS ARE WILL BE COMING UP FOR EXPIRATION OR RENEWAL. AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LESSON FROM CHRIS, START SHOWING YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT LIKE

THE. >> YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND QUITE FRANKLY I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD PUBLIC ACCESSIBILITY SO THAT I THINK THE GOAL HERE IN THIS WAS THAT COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE PUBLIC CAN ALL SEE OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT IN OUR CONTRACT BASE.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF IF THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS FOR X NUMBER OF DOLLARS PER PENCIL, WE MIGHT FIND A PENCIL PURVEYOR WHO COULD DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

WHO WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO BID ON THAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITY AND IT ALLOWS COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERJECT INTERJECT WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT PERHAPS AN OPPORTUNITY IS AVAILABLE. AND SO I THINK THAT YES, I WANT TO SEE A WHOLE LIST AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE IT TO BE AVAILABLE TO THE WEB WEBSITE PROBABLY A BETTER ONE BECAUSE I SIT AND PENCILS ARE INCLUDED IN A MUCH LARGER CONTRACT. OKAY.

SO YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE A BIG SHOT OF IT? >> YEAH.

YEAH. MY MY COME IN ON THIS THE REASON THIS WAS ON THIS PARTICULAR LIST IS WHEN I BECAME CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THIS WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE. WHAT WE HAVE WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS PARTICULAR COMMITTEES TO AUTHORIZE CONTRACTS AT CERTAIN LEVELS AND BEFORE THEY GO TO COUNCIL THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT BUT THEN THEIR COMMITTEE IF IT'S BILL BE BELOW THE THRESHOLD OR IT HAS TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL IF IT'S ABOVE A THRESHOLD.

AND SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS WHICH BELONGS IN FINANCE WHICH DOES NATURAL RESOURCE OR PUBLIC FACILITIES. THAT'S WHERE THIS WAS BORN OUT

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OF SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTRACT PROCESS.

>> ALL RIGHT. ACTUALLY ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT ONE? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM NUMBER A I'D LIKE TO THINK THIS IS DONE THE BOSTIC CIRCLE PROPERTY PURCHASE WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? I TALKED ABOUT WHERE HE SCRATCHED IT OUT BUT I WASN'T SURE THAT'S BEING BUILT YET. I THINK THAT'S DONE.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO. SO SCRATCH AGAIN. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> ITEM NUMBER 9 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS LADIES GENTLEMEN THAT I THINK DOES GO UNDER.

NATURAL RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. >> WELL, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THEY DO. YEAH, I AGREE THAT NOBODY DISAGREES. OK. SO NUMBER 10 FINANCE COMMITTEE WEB PAGE. I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION I WOULD ASK YOU, CHRIS, ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THE CURRENT PRODUCT OR NOT? AND SECONDLY, I WOULD THINK EVERY COMMITTEE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE ITS OWN ITS OWN WEBSITE TO REVIEW BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL THAT WAS FIRST OF ALL TO CRITICIZE HAPPY.

AND THEN WE GO IN THE OTHER ONES WE ASKED WHY I HAVEN'T BEEN ON IT IN QUITE SOME TIME.

SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> WELL, MAYBE WE CAN'T ANSWER NOW BUT HOW ABOUT THIS ONE DOES EVERY COMMITTEE NEED A WEB PAGE TO REVIEW AND REPORT PEOPLE THAT.

>> YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD OKATIE. >> YES, A QUESTION.

>> SO IF EACH COMMITTEE HAS A WEB SITE WHO WROTE THE COMMITTEE CHAIR TELL STAFF WHAT TYPES OF CONTENT YOU WANT TO SEE ON THOSE SITES? I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT. THERE MAY BE BUT I CAN'T THINK OF ONE.

SO THAT DOES PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A BURDEN ON ADDITIONAL BURDEN ON THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS COMMENTS ON THAT ONE. THIS FEELS LIKE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE WEEDS WHATEVER WHATEVER WAS SAID THERE WAS GARBLED I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I SAID THIS FEELS TO ME LIKE IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DOWN IN THE WEEDS

FOR COUNCIL, OK? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED IT.

WE JUST DON'T WANT TO MAINTAIN IT. OKAY.

>> I YEAH I WOULD SUGGEST ALL BRAIN YOU KNOW I WOULD SUGGEST THAT A STATEMENT OF THE COMMITTEE AS IT'S HERE ON YOU KNOW, VISION STATEMENT, MISSION STATEMENT AND THEN RESOURCES BEING POTENTIAL CALENDAR ENTRIES YOU KNOW WHEN THE NEXT MEETING IS AND THEN FROM THERE WE LINK TO THINGS LIKE MINUTES AND VIDEO AND AGENDAS. AND SO I THINK THAT PERHAPS VISION STATEMENT MISSION STATEMENT MEMBERS LIST OF MEMBERS AND THEN LINKED TO THE CALENDAR THAT WOULD BE ABOUT ALL YOU NEED. AND CURRENTLY TIFFANY KEEPS UP WITH OUR COMMITTEE WEB SITES IF KNOW THE CHAIR CHANGES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT SHE UPDATES

IT. RIGHT. >> SO IT'S GOOD AS FAR AS I'M

CONCERNED. >> SO WE CAN SAY THAT WHAT'S WORK?

WHAT WE HAVE IS WORKING. YEAH. >> OKAY.

I WOULD THINK IN THAT CASE I'M GOING TO ELIMINATED EVERYBODY ALRIGHT WITH THAT.

>> AND THEN OF COURSE ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN IS FUNDING FOR THE CONCOURSE DEWITT GARDENS.

YOU SEE THE SEVEN QUESTIONS THERE WHO FUNDED IT LAST YEAR WILL IT BE FUNDED THIS YEAR? WHAT WILL BE THE FUNDING SOURCE I BELIEVE AND THAT HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN FUNDED OUT OF THE ADMINISTRATORS DISCRETIONARY FUND I THINK BUT I WOULDN'T BET MY LIFE ON IT.

SO THERE MAY BEEN AND MAYBE IT ALSO FROM YEAR, YEAR, MAYBE ONE YEAR IT WAS PAID FROM HOLIDAY X NEXT YEAR IN PART. WHY? I JUST DON'T KNOW.

BUT IT IS GOING TO BE A RECURRING EXPENSE RICK I'M SORRY A RECURRING REQUEST.

SO ANYBODY GOT ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? >> YES, SIR.

THERE WERE FREE A FEW YEARS WHERE IT WAS FUNDED OUT OF ADMINISTRATOR CONTINGENCY BUT THIS IS WHY I PLACED IT GAVE COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION EXCUSE ME COUNSEL A CONTINGENCY THIS YEAR. SO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN CONTINGENCY BUDGET SO IT COULD BE FUNDED ABOUT AND MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. WELL OR TAXI A OR EACH TAX FUNDING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO OR SO IT GOES LAST THINKING RECEIVED SOME.

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>> SO IT'S NOT A TAX FUNDING. BUT THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 10000 THAT I TYPICALLY REQUEST.

RIGHT. YEAH. THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION THAT THEY GOT SOME FORM APPLICATION AND THEN THEY GOT A LITTLE CHECK FROM THE ADMINISTRATORS ON GENERAL I MIGHT INCLUDE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CONCOURSE NEOCONS IS THAT A

PRIVATE COMPANY OR WHAT ARE THEY? >> IT IS IT'S A PRIVATE

ORGANIZATION. >> ACTUALLY I THINK I DON'T I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE NONPROFIT IF THEY'RE FOR PROFIT. I'M NOT SURE. BUT THEY USE AN EVENT, YOU KNOW, ON HILTON HEAD EACH YEAR ON A LARGE NUMBER OF VISITORS THAT THEY ALSO HAVE AN EVENT AT OUR AIRPORT THAT GENERATES A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND INTEREST. AND SO I THINK HISTORICALLY WE'VE SUPPORTED THEM BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF OURS OUR TOURISM ECONOMY.

AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT EVENT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. ALL RIGHT.

[9. TOPICS FOR CONSIDERATION]

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WITH NO OBJECTIONS, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO TWO. ITEM NUMBER 9 WHICH SHIP IT HAS WRITTEN ACROSS THE TOP TOPIC TOO. I WAS GOING TO SAY BEFORE DEEP INTO THAT I WAS GONNA SAY THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THE OLD SAYING ABOUT HOW DO YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT ONE BITE AT A TIME.

>> WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BEAT AN ELEPHANT HERE. SO IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST KIND OF SORTING THINGS OUT. BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE GONNA BE DONE. SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE GONNA GO TO COMMITTEE.

BUT THE IDEA IS WE WANT TO KEEP UP WITH THEM AND TRACK THEM WHEREVER THEY ARE.

WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THIS? THIS IS A LIST OF TOPICS THAT WE'VE GENERATED A YEAR AGO AND

BUT BUT SOME OF THEM RELATIVE. >> SO I MUST START DOWN THAT LIST LOCAL OPTION SALES TAX HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC SINCE OH GOSH AT LEAST THE LAST 10 OR 12 YEARS SOMETHING THAT MOST OF THE MUNICIPAL WHO HAVE ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTED I THINK MOST BECAUSE HILTON HEAD WAS LUKEWARM AT VARIOUS TIMES I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY STAND TODAY BUT THEY'VE THEY'VE NOT BITTERNESS ENTHUSIASTIC HISTORICALLY AS BLUFFTON OR ROYAL AND YET SAY SO.

BUT THE QUESTION IS THE ONGOING QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? IF ANYTHING YOU MAY REMEMBER MOST OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT IT WAS IN 2007 OR EARLY IN 2019 AS WHEN I CALLED MY LAST MAYORS MEETING WHICH HAD THE MAYORS AND IT ALSO HAD THE CAR I HAD THE TOWN MANAGERS AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND OTHERS AND WE AT THAT MEETING COLLECTIVELY I'M GOING TO SAY THERE WERE 20 OR 25 PEOPLE THERE.

WE COLLECTIVELY OH RAISE YOUR HAND. YEAH LET'S PUT IT ON THE TWO THOUSAND TWENTY BALLOT FOR AS A REFERENDUM. MEANWHILE AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THAT AND SEVERAL THINGS HAPPEN WE PUT ON A REFERENDUM FOR THE OR THE RULE IN CRITICAL LANDS.

THERE WAS A PENNY TRANSPORTATION TAX I THINK WAS IN THAT ONE.

NOW I'M SORRY THAT WAS 2019 ANYWAY THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN EXPRESSED ABOUT I GUESS WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL REFERENDUM FATIGUE THAT YOU PUT TOO MANY ON THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY NO, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH AND DOUBT AGAINST ALL OF THEM SAID THEY WERE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS THAT LED US TO NOT PUT IT ON TO THE 2020 BALLOT AS A REFERENDUM ITEM.

THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT ABOUT 2020? IF THE ANSWER IS NO.

WHAT ABOUT 2020? I MEAN IT'S GOING TO GO AWAY. SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. AND I THINK I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO KEEP IT RIGHT HERE WITH EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND THEN JUST BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS IT FROM TIME TO TIME AND SEE IF WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD, MAKE A DECISION ON 2021.

AND I'M SURE THE MAYORS AT A MINIMUM WILL WANT TO WEIGH IN ON IT.

BUT WHAT OTHER COMMENTS DO YOU ALL HAVE? >> I MEAN SOME OF YOU I THINK HAD MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT IT OVER TIME. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SUPPORTED IT AT THE MAYOR'S MEETING AND THEN CHANGE YOUR MIND AND NOT SUPPORTED IT WHEN IT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL OR COMMITTEE. SO WHAT COMMENT DO ANY OF YOU HAVE? I DON'T GET TO COMMENT ON AND SAY FINE, IT STAYS ON EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. IT WAS RICHARD, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR.

IT'S OCCURRED. I JUST WANTED TO POINT I BELIEVE IT'S REQUIRED THAT THAT BE HELD ON A GENERAL ELECTION DATE WHICH WOULD BE 2022 NEXT. IF THAT'S TRUE.

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THAT'S RIGHT. DID YOU DOUBLE CHECK THAT CURTAIN OR SOMETHING IN THE BACK OF MY MIND THAT SAID THAT MAY NOT BE CORRECT BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

>> AND IF YOU IF YOU ARE CORRECT ME YOU PROBABLY ARE THEN I JUST WOULD JUST CONFIRM THAT THE NEXT TIME IT COMES UP IN THE MEETING THAT WE'RE YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERENDUM UPDATE YOU KNOW WE USED TO PERIODICALLY GET UPDATES FROM ROB MCPHEE.

I THINK I THINK THAT'S WHERE I DON'T REMEMBER ANYBODY ELSE EVER GIVING US AN UPDATE.

BUT HE WOULD PERIODICALLY GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE ON THE PENNY TAX ITEMS GOING BACK A COUPLE OF REFERENDUMS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S TO BE HANDLED IN THE FUTURE.

I MEAN THAT THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATION QUESTION. SO BUT FROM OUR END WE JUST WANT TO SEE A PERIODIC UNDEFINED PERIODIC UPDATE ON ALL OF THE ON THE ALL OF THE OPEN AND CLOSED ITEMS FROM THE MOST RECENT PENNY SALES TAX TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM.

SO I SAID I WOULD PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT

THIS. >> BUT IF I HAD TO IT OFF. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS I HAVEN'T DONE AT PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE AND TIME PERMITTING THAT IS THAT IS OUR GOAL. YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF RUN SHORT BECAUSE WE ALMOST ALWAYS GET A LATE START AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IT.

PUBLIC FACILITIES OKAY. >> I'M MAKING A NOTE PUBLIC FACILITIES.

WHY IT'S SO HARD TO SAY ALTHOUGH FROM EXECUTIVE AND SAY IT GOES TO PUBLIC FACILITIES WORK WITHOUT OBJECTION AND ULTIMATELY MR. FLOWING DO YOU WANT THAT TO BE A MONTHLY

UPDATE? >> YES, PLEASE. YOU'VE GOT IT.

THAT WILL COME FROM JARED FÉLIX . >> NEXT ITEM IS IT IMPACTS THESE THEY'LL BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO WANT TO KNOW IS, UH YOU KNOW, I THINK JOE MADE A GOOD METAPHOR FOR THIS AND THAT'S A SPREADSHEET ON LEFT HAND IF I'M MISQUOTING YOU, JOE, YOU CAN JUMP IN AND TELL ME ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU'D HAVE

WHAT THE COUNTY IMPACT FEES ARE ONE BY ONE BY ONE. >> AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN THE NEXT ON WOULD BE BEAUFORT DO THEY HAVE IT IS THE SAME AS A DIFFERENT THAN AIRPORT ROLE? IS IT THE SAME A DIFFERENT BLUFFTON IS IT THE SAME AND DIFFERENT ET CETERA? THE MSE SAME DIFFERENT ART AVAILABLE ETC. SENTENCE WE CAN JUST MAYBE HIT A LINK ON AND LOOK AT IT AT ANY GIVEN TIME GETS UPDATED PERIODICALLY.

WELL NOW I GUESS IT WOULDN'T GET UPDATED THAT OFTEN BUT WHAT SO WE COULD KNOW AS A BASELINE WHAT WHAT EVERYBODY IS DOING AND I SUSPECT IF WE HAD WE DID A QUESTIONNAIRE TO ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WHICH WAS WHAT IS THIS B FOR HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS.

PORT ROLE I THINK I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD GET IT RIGHT. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE. AND THE ACTUALLY DO YOU HAVE

ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE? >> I DID. I THINK THAT THAT'S A REPORT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER PROVIDE ON A REGULAR BASIS TO YOU.

>> OKAY. THE EVERY MORNING I HAVE ACTUALLY CREATED A SPREADSHEET

THAT BEGINS THAT PROCESS. >> SO ASHLEY, I WILL SEND THAT TO YOU AS A MOCKUP OF WHAT I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE AND JUST HAS SOMETHING. SO I WILL SEND THAT TO YOU,

GARY. THANK YOU. >> NEXT ITEM IS CULTURAL INHERITANCE TERRORISM WHICH FOR ITEM CLASS QUESTION BEFORE YOU MOVE ON.

>> YES, I WANT TO GO BACK TO NUMBER TWO AND HAS ASHLEY WHO DOES SHE HAVE AN IDEA HOW MUCH

MONEY HAS BEEN COLLECTED SO FAR THAT PENNY SALES TAX? >> I'M JUST CURIOUS I CAN TELL

YOU IN JUST A MOMENT I'LL HAVE A LOOK AT A THANK YOU. >> YOU CAN CHAT ME.

OKAY. >> I'M NUMBER FOUR. IS THAT CULTURAL AND HERITAGE TOURISM WHICH WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN DIFFERENT VENUES OVER TIME MANY ESTABLISHED AD HOC COMMITTEES WERE WERE ESTABLISHED TO DISCUSS THIS. THE QUESTION BECOMES WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT TO KEEP UP WITH IT AND WHAT SHOULD THEY DO? SO IN EACH VERSE WILL BE ASSIGNED SOMEWHERE IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS AND EVERYBODY LOOK AT EVERYBODY AND SAY WHY? I THOUGHT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS WORKING OR THAT IT CAN'T SAY AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OBVIOUSLY BUT ALSO GO ELSEWHERE IF IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS TO DO THAT. THERE HAVE BEEN AS I SAY THERE

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HAVE BEEN AD HOC COMMITTEES ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT MET AT THE L PERIODICALLY AND SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THE LAP OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

>> ANYONE THINKS IT SHOULD BE ELSEWHERE. JUST NOW TIME TO SPEAK UP AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SAME THING. THIS IS A TOPIC THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AT MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. MANY ENTITIES AN ONGOING TOPIC PROBABLY WILL BE FOREVER TOPICS BUT FROM COUNCIL'S POINT OF VIEW IS THERE SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN AT ANY GIVEN TIME WE CAN SAY OKAY, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR IS IT JUST A BUNCH OF DISPARATE PIECES AND PARTS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SEPARATELY AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A MASTER PLAN THAT IS THAT FEEDS INTO THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND PARTS? THAT'S THE QUESTION HAS TO BE ANSWERED RIGHT NOW IT'S ON ECONOMIC YES.

ON THAT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AGENDA THERE UNTIL WE MOVE IT IN COMMENTS LIKE THE THAT SHOULD REMAIN UNDER THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. THAT'S ONE OF THE EXTERNAL RESPONSIBILITIES OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE. AND WE HAVE TWO AREAS ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT. >> WE HAVE THE SOUTHERN ALLIANCE AND WE HAVE WHAT CHANNEL TO GO, JOHN, TO DOES FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MATCH. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD CONTINUE UNDER THE

EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. >> SHARED SERVICES, CAPITAL PROJECTS, THE IMAGE THAT IS A TOPIC THAT COMES UP PERIODICALLY WHEN WHEN WE GET REPORTS ON WHEN WE VOTE ON VARIOUS CONTRACTS FOR SOME SORT OF WELL FOR A SERVICE THAT IS SHARED.

I MEAN MANY OF US HAVE ASKED THAT QUESTION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONTRACT AS BLUFFTON PARTICIPATING AS OR PARTICIPATING IS OBVIOUSLY PARTICIPATING.

SO I GET HEAR HERE VOICE THERE WAS AT A CLEARING OF THE THROAT .

OKAY, SO IT STAYS WITH US. UNTIL YOU CAN ARGUE FOR US THAT IT'S A FINAL FINANCE ISSUE.

BUT AS CLEARLY EXCITED ABOUT TAKING IT, WE'LL LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS.

>> I'M FINALLY WHERE IT IS. OKAY. UM, HOUSING TRUST FUND AS YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE PRODUCT I GUESS PRIMARILY OF THE OF THE LOCO AND MANY OTHERS BUT PARTICULARLY PARTICULARLY WITH WITH RESPECT TO A FUND YOU USE TO REPLACE THE IMPACT FEES ON A SORT OF QUARTER ON QUARTER PORTION CANE WILL HOUSING WILL STAY WHERE IT IS UNLESS I HEAR

FROM TO THE CONTRARY. >> I THE CHAIRMAN IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE SEVEN GREAT GARBAGE RECYCLING TIPPING MEETINGS THAT SUPPLEMENT BUT NUMBER IS STILL EMERGE CREATING BACKGROUND

NOISE AND THAT EAT IT. >> YEAH. >> PAUL GARBAGE RECYCLING TIPPING FEES I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO IT HAS BEEN VOTED ON BY COUNCIL. WE'RE WAITING I THINK ON THAT THE RESULTS OF ANY VOTES REGARDING IMPACT FEES FOR SOUTH WASTE AND YOU KNOW YOU DON'T PUT PERHAPS THIS IS SOME REQUEST TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR CURRENT CHARGES AT HICKORY HILL AND I THINK I'M NOT REALLY SURE BUT MOST OF THIS MATTER IS UNDER THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE . AND SO IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND THAT WILL EITHER FIND OUT THE ANSWERS OR HOOK YOU UP WITH THE RIGHT PERSON TO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. I'LL JUST MAKE A NOTE THAT IT IS AND SHALL REMAIN IN PUBLIC FACILITIES. FAIR ENOUGH. FAIR ENOUGH.

>> ROAD MAINTENANCE AND DITCH MAINTENANCE THAT TAKES A LOT OF COVERS A LOT OF TERRITORY BECAUSE OF COURSE WE HAVE WHAT WHAT DOJ DOES OR DOESN'T DO. WE AND WHAT THE COUNTY DOES OR DOESN'T DO HAVE WHAT WE CTC WE HAVE TAGGED FUNDS. WE HAVE STORMWATER.

WHAT DO YOU SEE WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT STORMWATER THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS EFFORT

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IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROAD MAINTENANCE ALL THOSE THINGS YOU NAMED UP THUS FAR.

AND AFTER THAT FOR DITCH MAINTENANCE IT'S THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND OUR STORM WATER UTILITY I THINK SPLIT STORMWATER OUT EVEN. YEAH.

MEAN IT'S IN STORMWATER. YEAH. >> SO I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY WHEN WE SAY DITCH MAINTENANCE WE JUST PUT PARENTHETICALLY CDO T AND

STORMWATER THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD DO IT. >> ALLISON'S SUGGESTING I BELIEVE IF I'M CORRECT THAT WE WE SEPARATE ROAD MAINTENANCE FROM DITCH MAINTENANCE MAKE.

YES. AN ITEM AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

YEAH. YEAH. IT'S DIFFERENT.

DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AND YOU KNOW THE STORMWATER WE HAVE OUR STORMWATER FEES THAT IT DOESN'T WANT TO WORK ON DITCH MAINTENANCE.

>> SO WE WANT TO BUY THE RIGHT STORMWATER UNDER NATURAL RESOURCES.

RIGHT ALEX? >> YEAH. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO RIGHT. MAINTENANCE IS REALLY THE THE 1 PERCENT WE NEED TO SERVE YOU PUBLIC FACILITIES DITCH MAINTENANCE REALLY IS IN THE PURVIEW OF NATURAL RESOURCES.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH. SPLIT SPLIT IT UP AND THIS IS NATURAL RESOURCES. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN OF COURSE SHARED PURCHASING. I ASSUME THAT HAS THAT'S A FIRST COUSIN AT LEAST TWO SHARED SERVICES. DAVE, I DISAGREE. I MEAN THAT TO ME THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S PART OF NUMBER SIX. WE'RE NOT READING THAT CORRECTLY.

ANYBODY WANT TO DISAGREE WITH THAT? >> WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THAT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN WITHIN THE THE AREA OF THE ADMINISTRATOR TO DECIDE WHAT ITEMS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE SHARE TO SHARE PURCHASING AGREEMENTS WHICH ONES MIGHT BE IT MIGHT BE ADVISABLE OR INADVISABLE TO YOU SHARED PURCHASING.

AND IF I AM NOT, I COMPLETELY TRUST THE ADMINISTRATION TO ASK FOR SUPPORT WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS NEED TO BE CONTACTED. I THINK THAT THIS REALLY IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE LEAVE COMPLETELY WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR QUITE FRANKLY UNTIL IT COMES TO A VOTE IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVEN LEGAL FOR US TO PUT OUR OUR VIEWS IN SO THE NUT CASE. I'LL JUST LEAVE ADMINISTRATION FOR NUMBER 10.

ALEX, ARE YOU. >> DO YOU DO AT 5:00 A.M. OR 4:00 OR YOU'RE DUE TO START AT 4:00, 5:00, 5:00. OKAY. MORE TIME THAN THOUGHT.

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OKAY. >> I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET HIM YOUR TIME.

THE NEXT ITEM IS IS COUNTY COUNCIL ISSUES WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 10 ON THE AGENDA.

>> AND THE UH THE BACKUP ITEM THE BACKUP LIST AS I SAID IS TOPIC NUMBER THREE COUNTY COUNCIL ISSUES AND THEN NONE OF THESE ARE ARE DUE DUPLICATIVE THINGS WE'VE ALREADY TALKED

ABOUT. >> SO I'LL TRY TO I'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE I CATCH THOSE IF I DON'T SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED THE IMPACT THESE WE'VE ALREADY ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.

BUT THERE'S A QUESTION NEXT TO IT. ARE THEY REQUIRED TO BE USED ONLY BY ORDINANCE? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION.

BUT DOES THAT MEAN JOE DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT QUESTION WAS? YEAH. IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IMPACT FEES IN, DO THEY REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE READINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS? OK, KURT. ARE YOU STILL ON OK, I GUESS THE FIRST THING TO DO IS IS YOU WANT US TO CONTACT THE LEGAL ACTION IF YOU WANT TO SEND IT TO YOU AND YOU AND YOU CONTACT

LABEL. >> I'M STILL HERE. MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES. IT DOES REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE TO BE PASSED TO IMPOSE IMPACT FEES

. >> ALL RIGHT. SO WE WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING FURTHER THAT THAT WAS JUST A ONE OFF QUESTION, RIGHT, JOE?

>> CORRECT. THAT'S BUT WHAT'S THE QUESTION IS DO YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING IMPACT FEES? HOW DO WE ACTUALLY PUT THEM IN? IT IS THREE READINGS IN THE HEARING. RIGHT.

>> ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ORDINANCES WHEN WHO MAKES IT AND WHY AND THAT'S A PRETTY

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BROAD QUESTION. I THINK THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED AT ANY TIME BY BY LEGAL AND FAIRLY SHORT ORDER. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TRY TO DISCUSS.

NOW WE HAVE SOME DEPENDS ON WHAT THE SPECIFIC QUESTION IS. >> YEAH, GO RIGHT AGAINST ITEM

NUMBER TWO. >> ITEM NUMBER THREE ITEM NUMBER FOUR OUR EDUCATIONAL TYPE THINGS. WE KNOW THAT AN ORDINANCE REQUIRES THREE READINGS AND A PUBLIC HEARING. WE KNOW THAT A RESOLUTION CAN BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AT ITS COUNCIL MEETING. WE KNOW THAT THE APPOINTMENTS CAN EITHER ARE USUALLY RECOMMEND TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL. SO IT'S JUST YOU KNOW, EDUCATION FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AS YOU CAN SEE THIS WAS BACK IN 2019 WHEN I WAS A ROOKIE

COUNCIL FIRST, OK? >> SO THIS DOESN'T NEED A WHOLE LOT OF WORK FROM THE NO NO.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> FAIR ENOUGH. STATUS OF THE OLD COURTHOUSE THAT OF COURSE IS A PUBLIC FACILITIES ITEM I WOULD GUESS. RYAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'VE TAKEN UP AT YOUR COMMITTEE EVER PRESENT WITH? TOTALLY WITH WITH ADMINISTRATION. I KNOW I KNOW ACTUALLY YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO OR YOU HAVE OR WILL DO A COMPLETE. ARE YOU SURE CURRENTLY THE SUBJECT OF AN RFP AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE ANY RESULTS OF THE RFP HAVE BEEN EVALUATED BY STAFF AND SO CURRENTLY IT'S WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW IT IS.

>> BUT IT IS A MATTER THAT I EXPECT THE PUBLIC FACILITIES TO TAKE UP.

AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE PART OF IT ANYWAY WOULD BE THE SUBJECT THE OVERALL FACILITY USE STUDY THAT WE'RE HAVING DONE AND WE'LL WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE RESULTS OF ALL

THAT ARE WITHIN A MATTER OF TIME. >> I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND LEAVE IT AT THAT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING

ON IT ANYWAY WITH YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

SIR. STATUS OF THE PARKING LOT LEASE AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE WE VOTED ON THAT ON WHAT WE OR TWO TO THREE MONTHS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH. QUICK WITH YOU I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT ON THERE SO WE KEEP IT KEEP IT IN MIND AS WE MOVE THROUGH THAT THE REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE OLD COURTHOUSE. SO ARE YOU SAYING LEAVE IT ON PUBLIC FACILITY?

>> YES, SIR. >> OKAY. MY STATUS OF FACILITY STUDY I

GUESS THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING. >> RFP WENT OUT.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO ASK ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THAT STUDY IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED? YES, IT SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN JANUARY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. >> STATUS OF THE LAWYERS HIRED BY THE SOLICITOR OR DO YOU TRY CASES ON THIS IS THIS WAS A CONTROVERSIAL ITEM WHEN WE TOOK IT UP AND I MEAN THE QUESTION CAME UP. DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. ONE IS WELL WITH THIS WITH THIS LAWYER USED IN IN THROUGHOUT THE 14TH CIRCUIT OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO BE A COUNTY? AND WILL THIS ATTORNEY ONLY HANDLE THE UI CASES OR WILL ATTORNEY HANDLE CASES THAT SHOULD BE PAID FOR SOLICITORS NORMAL BUDGET? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS. I JUST REMEMBER THAT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED WHEN WHEN WE TOOK ACTION ON THIS THOUGH.

SO WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR OR DO WE WANT THE SOLICITOR TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME SORT OF UPDATE PERIODICALLY? WELL, CAN I WEIGH IN ON THAT? I MEAN THE REALITY IS WHEN YOU GIVE SOMEBODY SOME MONEY FOR SOMETHING AND TIME PASSES NOT UNCOMMON FOR THAT WHATEVER THAT FUNCTION THAT THANK YOU OR MORPHS INTO SOMETHING ELSE. I MEAN THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN BUT IT OFTEN DOES. SO WHAT ARE WE. WHAT WHAT IS THE WASTE OF THIS BODY THERE? CAN ANYONE HEAR ME? YOU HEAR ME, SIR? I CAN HEAR YOU. WELL, I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT IT PROBABLY SHOULD RESIDE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THE INQUIRY CAN BE MADE UP. THE TIME HERE IS WRONG SIMPLY BECAUSE ORDERS FROM THE CHIEF JUSTICE AND COLUMBIA HAVE ESSENTIALLY SUSPENDED OPERATIONS IN THE COURTHOUSES. SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD GET A PRACTICAL REPORT OF ANY

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APPLICATION OF ANY OF THE TALENT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE HIRED.

I SUPPOSE THAT WE COULD DO IS GET A REPORT ON WHETHER OR NOT THE POSITIONS WOULD FILL AND ASK WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THOSE POSITIONS AT THE MOMENT. BUT UNTIL THEY'LL BE HAVING ANY PROSECUTIONS TO SPEAK OF AS EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH HELD IN ABEYANCE.

>> SO I SUPPOSE WE'LL HAVE TO FIND OUT NUMBER ONE THAT IS ON THE USE OF THE COURTROOMS AND NUMBER TWO, IF THE LAWYERS HAVE HANDLED THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED AND IF THEY'RE READY TO START WORK ONCE THE COURTROOMS OPEN AGAIN. SO IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, LARRY, YOU SAY NUMBERS NUMBERS EIGHT AND NINE ARE GOING COMMUNITY AND SENSE SHOULD STAY THERE. I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THE YEAH.

OK. >> YEAH, I DON'T DISAGREE. ANYBODY ELSE IT'S NUMBER 10 STATUS DNA LAB IMPROVEMENTS OBVIOUSLY WE'VE FUNDED IT INITIALLY AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR UPGRADES . I GUESS THAT WOULD FALL UNDER UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL. I AGREE. IT'S A SIMPLE REQUEST TO THE IS WITH REGARD TO THE PROGRESS OF THE BUILDING. I KNOW THAT THE LAST REPORT WE HAD INDICATED THAT PLANS HAD BEEN SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL. I DON'T KNOW CONSTRUCTION WAS UNDERTAKEN OR WHAT STAGE IT'S AT BUT THAT'S SIMPLY CAN BE RESOLVED WITH A PHONE CALL.

THINGS NUMBER 11 IS THE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ON THE PAYMENT OR NOT PAYMENT BY HILL AT THE SHARE OF SERVICES AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE THIS IS GOING TO BE DEALT WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT LEVELS PROBABLY BY COUNTY COUNCIL. SO I GUESS THIS LEAVE IT.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE SO IT DOESN'T. NO, IT'S NOT LIKELY TO FOLLOW OFF THE RADAR, THAT'S FOR SURE. SO LET'S LEAVE IT AT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND THEN PROCEED. AND WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF ACTIONS ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE OTHER ACTIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE OR NOT TAKE. SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT HERE.

AND JUST AS A PLACE HOLDER TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T IN THE HIGHLY UNLIKELY EVENT IT FALLS THROUGH THE CRACKS. I DON'T THINK WE'RE FACE VISE CHAIR RULE.

>> I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE.

MR. MIKE ALLEN HAS REFERRED TO IT AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

AND JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF MINUTES AND BEING CONSISTENT. ARE YOU ALL INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE TITLE OF THAT COMMITTEE? ARE WE STILL CALLING IT

SERVICES OR ARE WE CALLING IT PUBLIC SAFETY OR A COMBINATION? >> WELL, USE MORE CHANGED HIS NAME OVER THE LAST DECADE OR SO. SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THE NAME WAS NOT MY COMMITTEE. SO I GUESS I'LL JUST DEFER TO LARRY WELL.

WHEN IT WAS THERE WERE TWO SEPARATE COMMITTEES THAT WILL COMBINE AND THEN IT BECAME COMMUNITY SERVICES SLASH PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT IF WE COULD THINK OF A BETTER NAME AND COMBINE BOTH THAN IT'S FINE OPEN TO SUGGESTION ON IT.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES SLASH PUBLIC SAFETY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE COULD CALL IT. BOTH THOSE WERE COMBINED IN THERE TO REALLY SEPARATE AND DISTINCT OPERATIONS. ONE WOULD BE SOCIAL SERVICES. THE OTHER IS ENTIRELY RELATED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT THAT PHIL PUT HAS AND THE SHERIFF HAS SO RIBAUT COME UP WITH A BETTER SUGGESTION THAT HE MAY NEVER BE FINE ABOUT LARRY'S DEN.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO IT STAYS WITH WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT TWO SUBJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE NAME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NUMBER 11. SO NUMBER 11 STAYS WITH EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND NUMBERS IN NINE AND EIGHT GO TO LARRY'S PERHAPS TO BE RENAMED COMMITTEE .

TWELVE STAFF IS COMFORTABLE. I'M COMFORTABLE I'M COMFORTABLE UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW NAME TO LEAVE IT AS IT COMMUNITY SERVICES SLASH PUBLIC SAFE. OKAY NOW IT'S YOUR COMMITTEE.

FAIR ENOUGH. 12 THE STIPENDS FOR DEPUTIES LIVE ON HILTON HEAD.

WHO'S PAYING NO STIPEND? I THOUGHT THAT WAS CLEAR. >> WAS HILTON HEAD AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE THE ANSWER THAT DEFINITIVELY WHO'S PAYING IT? WE KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT IS. SO I CAN SCRATCH THAT ONE BUT WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES. SURE. WHAT WOULD YOU.

WOULD YOU SHARE THAT INFORMATION, LARRY? YEAH, I'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES. I BELIEVE IT. HILTON HAS PAYING IT TO THE

TUNE BETWEEN 60 AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. >> NOW IT'S ACTUALLY ONE

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HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. >> WELL, YOUR INFORMATION IS MORE CURRENT THAN MOM JOE. YEAH, AND HILTON HEAD DOES PAY IT OFF, OK? SO I'M GOING TO KILL IT. I'M GOING TO DELETE IT FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE'S LONG LIST OF ITEMS. NUMBER 13. COUNTY COUNCIL PROTOCOL RULES AND REGULATION. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED NUMEROUS TIMES.

IT CAN ALWAYS AND ALWAYS USE A FACE LIFT. >> WELL, I SAY LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS AND WE'LL WE'LL TAKE IT ON ANYBODY ELSE. VALERIE YES, SIR.

>> YEAH, WE'RE OF COMMUNICATIONS AND TRANSPARENCY.

WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT. WE HAVE BEEN FOR A WHILE. >> I'M SORRY, MIKE.

YOU'RE RIGHT. I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH IT. TRANSPARENCY COMMUNICATION WILL CHANGE QUICKLY. THE MORE PEOPLE WILL EMULATION NOT YOU.

NUMBER 14 IS PUBLIC COMMENTS AT COUNCIL MEETINGS AND COMMITTEE MEETINGS IMPORTANCE AND INCONSISTENCIES THAT'S ANYBODY WHO'S EVER CHAIRED A MEETING AND THAT'S EVERYBODY HERE.

EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMITTEE KNOWS THAT PROBABLY COMMENT CAN BE STRESSFUL AND I THINK EVERYBODY HANDLES IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. WHAT I MEANT WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS DEPENDING ON THE ON THE DECIBEL LEVEL AND THE DEGREE OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION INVOLVED BUT I DON'T KNOW. ARE WE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A PROTOCOL AND EVERYBODY HAS TO DO IT THIS WAY EVERY TIME SOMEBODY GETS UP THERE TO SPEAK.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS WAY WHETHER THEY'RE PRICKLY OR NOT. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE HEADED FOR BY GETTING COMMENTS ON THAT KNOW ONE WAS THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE WERE GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WHERE THEY WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA AND WE'VE RESOLVE THAT ISSUE NOW.

>> OK. WELL, I CAN TAKE IT OFF. THAT BRINGS US TO PARLIAMENTARIAN WHICH WE HAVE. WHAT DO WE USE AS A SOURCE? ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER OR SOMETHING ELSE? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BRIAN'S GOING TO HAVE TO UPDATE US SOMEWHERE. I'M GOING TO PUT BRIAN NEXT TO IT AND MEASURE.

SURE. OK, STATUS OF DSA AND CLEANING CONTRACTS.

I ASSUME THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THE LITIGATION WHICH IS THAT'S STILL ONGOING.

I GUESS IT IS THAT GOES AND WE STILL BEING IN LITIGATION ON THAT ONE ACTUALLY.

>> YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, IT'S IN THE COURT OF APPEALS.

>> OK. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE IT OFF. I DON'T REALLY SEE IT AS AN ONGOING ACTION ITEM FOR US. SO THERE'S GOING WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM AND IS GOING TO BE RESOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. AND IT HAS CERTAINLY PROVEN THAT QANTAS OF DSA EMPLOYEES NEED TO RESOLVE STATUS OR THEY EMPLOYEES OR CONTRACTORS.

OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BY LEGAL OR NOT. IT IS CERTAINLY ADDRESSED BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

OK. SO YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN ANY ACTION BECAUSE NOBODY'S POINTING OUT TO YOU THAT THERE IS A NEED TO TAKE ACTION, I GUESS. YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW IN WHAT CONTEXT THIS MIGHT COME UP AND WHY THAT WHAT POINT THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING LEVEL TO RISE TO THE LEVEL CRITICALITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MIGHT BE. THEY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ON THIS.

I DON'T I DON'T. >> NO, NO. WE'VE ALREADY BRIEFED COUNSEL ABOUT THIS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER BUT I CAN

RESCIND THE INFORMATION TO YOU. NO, NO, ACTUALLY NO. >> YOU SAID YOU REMEMBERED.

IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER THAT WE NEED TO SAY ABOUT IT? LET'S START OFF IT GOES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER, ASHLEY. YES, STATUS OF DSM IS A COUNTY DEPARTMENT OR STATE AGENCY PROBABLY BOTH. I WOULD SAY I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION OR NOT. MAYBE IT IS BUT IT'S I THINK WE'RE THE ONLY COUNTY IN THE STATE AS I RECALL THAT HAS ITS OWN DSM DEPARTMENT. BUT I ASSUME IT'S PART OF THAT COUNTY DSM DEPARTMENT. THEY STILL ARE HAPPY TO RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THE STATE.

NO, I'M NOT MISSING ANYTHING. I MEAN IT'S BASICALLY CONSIDERED WE'RE VERY PROPRIETARY ABOUT IT AND WHEN WE SHOULD BE BECAUSE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE IS SO MUCH HIGHER THAN THE REST OF THE STATE. WE JUST DON'T RING WE DON'T RING OUR BELL AND OFTEN ENOUGH ON THAT I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. CERTAINLY BILL LOVE WOULD AND HIS STAFF BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING FURTHER NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THAT.

>> ANYBODY ELSE STATUS INVESTIGATION OF STERLING, A STOLEN EQUIPMENT.

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ALL I KNOW IS THERE WAS A PIECE OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT. WELL, ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. DOES ANYBODY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT?

>> YES, SIR. THAT'S THAT'S AGAIN SOMETHING I BROUGHT COUNCIL ON A COUPLE OF TIMES. IT IS AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION AND AS A MATTER OF SECURITY I WOULD PREFER TO PROVIDE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

BURNETT OFTEN GOES STATUS OGET. >> JOE, IS THERE SOMETHING YOU STILL WANT TO TALK ABOUT OR IS HAD BEEN. HAS THAT BEEN BROUGHT? OKAY.

>> WELL YEAH. WELL WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE HAD A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT SCHEDULE AS PART OF THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE JUST COMPLETED.

WE NEED TO KNOW TO BE COMPLETE EVERYTHING AND THEN ASHLEY IS GOING TO BRING TO US THE NEXT SET OF PROJECTS THAT SHE CONSIDERS IMPORTANT TO DO IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, CORRECT

ASHLEY? WELL, WE. >> SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY WE DON'T COLLECT CAPITAL MILLAGE LIKE SOME COUNTIES DO AND WE DO NOT OUR OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY NOT PART OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO WHAT WE DO WE'RE HANDLING ALL OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS THROUGH GEO BONDS AND SO WE JUST SOLD AN 11 MILLION DOLLAR GEO BOND. AND I DO NEED TO HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH COUNCIL SOMETIME SOON TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE THOSE FUNDS. WE KNOW THAT SOME THINGS WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO DO AS PART OF THAT BOND ISSUE INCLUDING FESTIVE FERRY LANDING AND AND ALSO SOME SECURITY UPGRADES TO THE DETENTION CENTER. BUT ONE OF THE THE MOST PRESSING PROJECTS WE HAVE IS OUR IMMENSE HEADQUARTERS AND SO SINCE WE HAVE THE GEO BOND ISSUED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A TOP PRIORITY FOR US TO PURSUE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK COUNCIL ABOUT THE STATUS OF THIS ITEM IS IT WILL BE US IN THE FORM OF A PRESENTATION BY STAFF, BY COUNTY, BY ADMINISTRATION THAT AT SOME POINT. YES. YES.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. STATUS OF SOFTWARE UPDATES FOR ADMINISTRATION. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT MUNI CODE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN MUNI CODE AND SOMETHING ELSE.

>> ALL I KNOW IS MUNI CODE. I DON'T KNOW. SARA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OR I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER UPGRADES. WE SAY THAT THE MUNI CODE IS

FOR ALL 10 PURPOSES A DONE DEAL. >> IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING

IMPLEMENTED. YES, SIR. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO

THINK IF THERE WAS ANYTHING COUNCILMAN NEEDS TO DO. >> I DON'T THINK SO EITHER.

I THINK YOU COULD TAKE THAT ONE OFF. THANK YOU.

EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION WHAT HAS BEEN DONE? WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED THAT. HAVE YOU NOT? YES, SIR.

SO WE HAVE WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE PROCESS OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS OF CONDUCTING A COMPENSATION CLASSIFICATION STUDY. THE COMPANY EVERGREEN DID THAT FOR US AND WE ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE A REPORT FROM THEM IN ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO AND I WILL BRING THAT FORWARD TO COUNCIL. AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW TO FUND THAT AT NEXT

YEAR'S BUDGET. >> SO THAT COMES FORWARD IN THE FORM OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATION. SO OFF IT GOES. TWENTY THREE THAT IS API 0 FOR ADMINISTRATION AND COUNTY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS ONE CORRECT.

>> WELL THIS IS STILL WITH US UNTIL SEPTEMBER 4TH AND WE SHOULD FILL THE POSITIONS VERY

QUICKLY. >> OK. ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE NOW COUNSEL AT VARIOUS TIMES AS DISCUSSED HAVING ITS OWN P.O. I THINK THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT API 04 ADMINISTRATION IS NOT HAVE NOT NADINE BAILIWICK ANYWAY BUT THEY'RE QUITE WELL. THE QUESTION OUTSTANDING IS DOES COUNSEL AT SOME POINT WISH TO HAVE ITS OWN CIO AND I AM I OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T ANSWER THAT'S ALL.

BELIEVE IT ON THERE I'LL CLEAN IT UPLOAD IN SEC STATUS API 0 FOR COUNTY COUNCIL AND DELETE FOR ADMINISTRATION AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND MAKE A DECISION AT SOME POINT IF WE

WANT TO DO THAT. >> MAY I? I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR MONTHS AND IT JUST DOESN'T MOVE ANYWHERE.

I THINK WE NEED TO RENEW OUR EFFORTS IN THIS REGARD AND GET API O AS DEDICATED HIRE COUNSEL AND WORKING IN THE COUNTY COUNCIL OFFICE. I'M GOING TO INSIST THAT WE MOVE THIS ALONG AT OUR FIRST OPPORTUNITY AND HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND RESOLVE IT.

I HOPE WE CAN RESOLVE IT POSITIVELY. WE CAN MAKE THAT HIRE.

>> THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE AND I GUESS THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'LL HAVE WHICH WILL OBVIOUSLY INVOLVE OUR CLERGY COUNSEL BECAUSE IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT THAT THAT FUNCTION COULD BE A ABSORBED BY THE I SAID IT'S CONCEIVABLE THAT IT COULD BE ABSORBED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND IF IT GOES IN THAT DIRECTION THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES DO WE WANT TO

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HAVE A SEPARATE PERSON TO DO IT OR CAN IT BE ABSORB ALL THAT HAS TO BE RESOLVED? BUT I THINK THAT'S A MATTER FOR COUNCIL. NOW I AGREE WITH YOU, LARRY.

HUNDRED PERCENT SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AS WHAT WE AS COUNSEL WANT TO DO FOR OUR PIO NOW.

YEAH. OK. >> STEP NUMBER 24 STATUS OF BUDGET IF WE DO NOT GET MONTHLY REPORTS WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW AND WHAT SHOULD WE HAVE?

WELL, I MEAN THE TREASURY GIVES US A CASH FLOW REPORT. >> WE'VE APPROVED OUR BUDGET THOUGH. WHAT IT'S NOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MATCHING UP TO OR WHETHER WHICH OR WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE NOW THIS IS THIS IS A FINDING IS THIS IS A FINANCE COMMITTEE

ITEM THAT SHOULD BE HANDLED BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. >> THEY SHOULD BE GETTING MONTHLY REPORTS. WE SHOULD YOU KNOW, CONGRATULATIONS TO ASHLEY AND GIVING US OUR FIRST EVER BUDGET BOOK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT FINALIZED.

WE NEED MONTHLY REPORT FROM ADMINISTRATION TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO MONTHLY BASIS TO REVIEW THEM. SO THAT COULD BE A FINANCE COMMITTEE ITEM.

YES. OUR NEXT ITEM SHOULD BE COMING FOR BOTH OUR NEW REVENUE CFO FIRED FIVE ITEM NUMBER TWENTY FIVE IS STATUS ITEMS RISING OUT OF OUR ANNUAL RETREAT WILL

REGIONALLY THAN LAST RETREAT IN ? >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. I MEAN HISTORICALLY I BELIEVE THE THE ADMINISTRATOR HAS GIVEN US UPDATES ON THOSE GOALS AND ALSO BUT ALSO SOME COMMITTEE CHAIRS AND GIVING US UPDATES ON THOSE GOALS. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A HYBRID MATTER BUT MAYBE IT NEEDS TO BE FUNNELED TO ONE INDIVIDUAL TO BE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR COMMENTS ON THAT ONE. WELL, IN ORDER TO MOVE TO ESTABLISH GOALS FOR OUR UPCOMING RETREAT BECAUSE WE USUALLY DO A RETREAT IN JANUARY WHEN THE NEW COUNCIL IS SEATED WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH FROM OUR LAST RETREAT OR DENTON. WHAT DO WE NEED TO MODIFY IT GOING FORWARD? THAT'S WHY THIS IS HERE THAT COULD BE DONE WAS WE'RE PRETTY GOOD IN JANUARY.

>> THAT COULD BE DONE AS PART OF THE RETREAT. HERE'S WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD NOT DO LAST YEAR. AND HERE'S THE STATUS OF THOSE THINGS AND THEN MOVE ON TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR 2020. OR IF WE WANT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF INTERIM REPORT, IT COULD STAY WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GO DOWN I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE WHEN YOU GO DOWN THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE ADOPTED HIS GOALS AT OUR LAST RETREAT. SOME OF THOSE ITEMS CLEARLY GO TO THIS COMMITTEE OR THAT COMMITTEE OR THIS COMMITTEE. SO WE HAVE TO BE A COMBINATION OR COMBINING OF OF REPORTS FROM THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEE CHAIRS ON WHAT IF ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED SOME MAYBE ADMINISTRATION. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THAT KIND OF A VOICE THAT'S RICH CENTRAL REPOSITORY AND AND PRESENTING ENTITY OR WAY FOR EVERYTHING INCLUDING ADMINISTRATION'S PART OF FINANCE AS PART OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES PART OF IT.

THAT'S NATURAL RESOURCES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. PUBLIC FACILITIES, PUBLIC

SAFETY. >> DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A CHECK IN ON ALL THE GOALS THAT WE ESTABLISHED? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION CAN BRING FORWARD FOR COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK AND DISCUSSION.

>> YEAH, I AGREE. >> AND THEN IT SHOULD REMAIN WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE THE CHAIR WITH EVERY OTHER COMMITTEE THERE.

BUT JUST TO PICK UP ON ASHLEY'S COMMENT. SO YOU ARE YOU THERE I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY SAY THAT MINISTER AND ADMINISTRATION CAN BRING FORWARD A TEMPLATE OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE SAW, HERE'S WHAT WAS APPROVED

AND HERE'S THE WHAT WE THINK IS THE STATUS. >> YEAH, JUST GIVE YOU A STATUS UPDATE AND WE CAN ALL CHECK IN AND JUST MAKE CERTAIN. SO WE WANT TO BE AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. IS THERE.

YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD REVIEW THESE QUARTERLY THE THAT WE PUT

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OBJECTIVES FOR COUNCIL AND WE SHOULD WORK PERIODICALLY JUST THE MAKE NOTES TO RUNNING OF

MEETINGS. >> I'M SORRY. ANYBODY ELSE PHONE NUMBER TWENTY FIVE I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT PREMATURELY. 26 IS WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT MOVE

. >> THERE ARE NO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHO HAS.

>> WHO ALL HAS WEB SITES. I I JUST FRANKLY DON'T KNOW. >> NO.

ON OUR WEB SITE THERE IS INFORMATION ABOUT COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT PERIODICALLY WE NEED TO CHANGE. SO THE IDEA IS HOW DO WE GO ABOUT CHANGE AGAIN? WHO CHANGES IT? THAT PROCESS? THAT'S THE PART WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. CORRECT. CURRENTLY WE MANAGE THOSE WE WEB SITE. AND I MEAN IF THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE KNOW HOW TO DO, IT'S TO BE DONE. WE REACH OUT TO DOSH RELATED TO GET HIS ASSISTANCE WITH JUST SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT'S ON IT. WE DO THAT.

>> AND THEN WE'VE GOT RUNNING OF MEETINGS, VOTES STAYING ETC. I MEAN WE'VE TRIED A COUPLE THINGS WE'VE TRIED TO PUSH BUT DRIVE AND NOW WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHICH I LIKE WHERE WE'RE SARAH WAS THIS ALL UP THERE IN GREEN OR RED OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE HERE IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE IS IS NOT BROKEN, DOESN'T NEED TO BE FIXED.

>> OKAY. WHERE WE ARE NOW. THANK YOU SARAH FOR GETTING US THERE. WHOEVER ELSE HELPED WITH THAT ANNUAL TRAINING COUNCIL? WELL THERE IS OVER THAT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE TALKING JUST ABOUT ORIENTATION FOR NEW MEMBERS OR ONGOING TRAINING FOR EXISTING MEMBERS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE ICAC DOES.

THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS AN ORIENTATION PROGRAM FOR ALL NEW HIRES INCLUDING ELECTED OFFICIALS. I BELIEVE ACTUALLY. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. WAS THERE ANYTHING BEYOND THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE?

ACTUALLY, EXACTLY. >> AND I'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION FOR SOME TIME AND I DO THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE ROUTINE TRAINING AND POSSIBLY EVEN WHAT WHAT I'M CALLING A COACH, MAYBE SOMEONE WHO COULD BE LIKE AN ICY MAY ADVISOR OR SOMEONE WHO YOU ALL COULD CALL ON FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATIONS OF COUNSEL.

I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, ROUTINE TRAINING AND SOMEONE YOU COULD CALL UPON.

I'M CALLING THEM A COACH WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL WAS THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THIS ON THERE IS BECAUSE I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT LAWS CHANGE, THINGS CHANGE.

>> FCIC IS A GOOD WAY OF GETTING SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

SO YEAH I THINK THIS BELONGS WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND ADMINISTRATION TO PUT TOGETHER VARIOUS TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT WE MAY NEED AND WANT AND SAIC ALSO STATE THAT THEY MIGHT BE DOING A VIRTUAL TRAINING IN FEBRUARY POSSIBLY SOONER.

AND I'LL EMAIL YOU ALL WHENEVER SHE SENDS THAT OUT. SO I SAY STAYS WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE TO TO WORK IN WITH ADMINISTRATION TO PUT TOGETHER SPECIFIC TRAINING MODULES THAT I'VE MADE A NOTE OF ASHLEY'S COMMENT THAT COUNSEL PERIODIC TRAINING AND POSSIBLY HAVE A COACH. ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT? AND ALL RIGHT.

[11. TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION]

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ELEVEN TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION.

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WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS WHEREVER POSSIBLE WE'VE CERTAINLY TAKEN THIS GENERAL HEADING AND SAID WHAT COMMITTEE WE THINK IT GOES UNDER AND SOME DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

SO I KIND OF TRY TO BREACH THROUGH IT IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT THAT'S PART OF THIS ATTACHMENT THEN STOP ME AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT SOME OF THEM.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP AND DISCUSS ANYWAY BECAUSE THERE'S NO THERE'S NO COMMITTEE IDENTIFIED A BUDGET FINANCE PERSONNEL ADMINISTRATION RESERVE STUDY OF COUNTY OWNED BUILDINGS AND LAND. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT AND YEAH, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE LAND. I THINK THAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO IDENTIFY VACANT LAND THAT'S OWNED BY THE COUNTY THAT MIGHT BE SOLD TO SUPPLEMENT BUDGETS IN SOME PARTICULAR YEAR. AND I REMEMBER GETTING A LIST THAT I DON'T REMEMBER WHO I GAVE IT TO BUT IT WAS IT WAS REALLY THICK, HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROPERTIES LISTED AND YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA.

I KNOW TWO OR THREE PROPERTIES RIGHT OFF THE TOP MY HEAD THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SELL FOR FOR SOME MONEY. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, BRIAN.

WE DID DISCUSS THAT. THERE IS A LIST. IT IS AN OLD THIRTY 40 PAGES LONG. I THINK IT'S FOUR HUNDRED AND SIX EIGHT PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE NOT ALL OF THEM ARE VACANT LAND. SOME HAVE BECAUSE THEY'VE GIVEN

THAT TO YOU. >> I MUST HAVE GIVEN THAT TO YOU, JOE.

YEAH, I DO HAVE IT AND I HAVEN'T FORGIVEN YOU FOR IT YET.

SO YES, WE DO HAVE THAT AND THAT THAT SHOULD BE A PUBLIC FACILITIES ITEM TO TAKE A LOOK.

BECAUSE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. WE WE MAY BE ABLE TO PUT

SOMETHING ON THE TAX ROLLS THAT WE DON'T NEED. >> EXACTLY.

EXACTLY. OBVIOUSLY PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN THAT ARE THAT THAT CURRENTLY HOUSE COUNTY FUNCTIONS. THEY THERE'S A BUILDING AND IT HAS A FUNCTION OR PROPERTIES THAT ARE PARKS OR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROPERTIES THOSE WOULD ALL BE ON THE LIST AND WOULD NOT BE IT WOULD NOT BE A POTENTIAL SALE BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT LIST AND SEE IF WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME AND IF I CAN GET THAT LIST BACK I'D BE HAPPY TO START DOWN THAT ROAD. I'M SORRY I FORGOT ALL ABOUT THIS ONE. AT SOME POINT IT DROPPED COMPLETELY OFF MY RADAR.

SO ALL RIGHT. WELL, EVENTUALLY YOU'LL GET A I GUESS WE'LL GET IT FOR ME WHICH WILL BE A SUMMARY OF THE MATTERS THAT DISCUSSED TODAY AND AGREED ALONG IN YOUR COMMITTEE OR IN THIS CASE. BRIAN, YOUR COMMITTEE OR LAWYERS COMMITTEE OR ELLIS'S COMMITTEE OR VERSUS COMMITTEE NUMBER C IT WAS NUMBER THREE. NUMBER FOUR.

>> I MAKE A COMMENT PLEASE ON THAT. ALSO I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME PROPERTY IN THE TOWN FOR OIL THAT'S BEEN UNDER DISCUSSION. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE GOES TO PUBLIC FACILITY NO MATTER WHERE THOSE PROPERTIES ARE THAT IS EVER DISTRICT IN BE INCLUDED. AND OF COURSE WE WOULD BE UNDER PUBLIC FACILITIES BUT AT LEAST

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, ALICE. >> YEAH. I THINK THAT HAPPENS.

YEAH. THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC RIBAUT ALIENS OR A PLACE OR OR NO THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY.

>> I'D RATHER NOT MENTION IT, RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

MY THOUGHT IS, ALICE, THAT IF IF I IDENTIFY 10 PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT ARE LIKELY REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE COUNTY IN AND IT WOULDN'T HURT OUR OPERATIONS TO IT WOULD ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY AND WOULDN'T HURT OUR OPERATIONS TO DIVEST STARKS OUT.

I WOULD DEFINITELY CONTACT EACH COUNCILMAN BEFORE I MENTIONED THEM IN PUBLIC AND IN THAT WAY WE COULD GET INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS OR RESPONSES TO THE QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU, BRIAN. ANYBODY ELSE ON THE NEXT ITEM IS PARKED BOTH PASSIVE AND ACTIVE. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NATURAL RESOURCES AND WOULD BE PASSIVE WOULD BE NATURAL RESOURCES AND ACTIVE WOULD BE COMMUNITY SERVICES.

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ANY DISAGREEMENT THERE? >> WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION. IS SOME REORGANIZATION ON POWERS? WHERE IS IT NOW? WHAT? WHAT DEPARTMENT IS LOCATED IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH ACTUALLY CONCERNING THE COMMUNITY

SERVICES DIVISION. >> SIR, AND THAT'S ACTIVE AND PASSIVE PARKS.

>> YES. YES, SIR. THE PASSIVE PART THOUGH WOULD BE ON THEIR NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY SERVICES.

I WASN'T AWARE, SAID PARKS DESIGNED FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES.

NOW I THOUGHT IT WAS 200 NATURAL RESOURCES CONFUSED AS TO WHY THEY SHOULD AT THE PARK

WITH THE CAR. >> YOU KNOW WE COME TO THE PTA TODAY.

>> WELL THE PASSIVE PARKS ARE MANAGED. THE PERSON WHO MANAGES THAT IS PART OF PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEN THE ACTIVE PARKS ARE PARKS AND REC AND BOTH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS ARE UNDER THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION NOW.

>> RIGHT. OKAY. OK, SIR.

>> SO HOWARD BUT MISS HOWARD, SO DO YOUR QUESTION. I MEAN SO THESE THESE TWO BOTH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS ARE FUNCTIONS NOW UNDER COMMUNITY SERVICE IS THE ACA FOR COMMUNITY SERVICES? BUT I DON'T THINK WE'VE MADE A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHERE PARTS OF PARKS VERSUS ACTIVE PARKS GOES IN TERMS OF COUNTY COUNCIL COMMITTEES.

DO YOU? I'M SAYING SO. I MEAN MASSIVE PARKS FOR IT'S BEEN UNDER NATURAL RESOURCES CAN RALLY THAT'S NOT HAPPENING .

RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ON THAT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SO THEN PASS THE PARKS WILL STAY WITH NATURAL RESOURCES AND

ACTIVE PARKS WILL BE WITH CITY SERVICES RIGHT? >> YEAH.

>> MIKE, I HEAR A MAN ON THAT. >> I THINK SO. THE NATURAL OF THE PASSIVE PARK COMING THROUGH THE RULE CRITICAL LAND WHICH IS ON THE NATURAL RESOURCE AND THEN THE ACTIVE PARK IS UNDER RECREATION OR POWER. SO YEAH.

>> YEAH. OKAY. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS RE HOLLY ACTIVE WHAT'S ON THE RISE IN NATURAL RESOURCES AND HISTORICALLY THEY HAVE BEEN HANDLED OUT OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE. ANYBODY SUGGESTING CHANGE IN

THAT JENKINS ISLAND PROJECT? >> PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT ENTIRE COUNCIL THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF ON I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE TO DO WITH JENKINS ISLAND IF THERE

WAS ANY FURTHER ACTION THERE. >> SO SO IT STAYS PFC RIBAUT WELL WAIT A MINUTE.

I DELETED. I GUESS THAT'S A PART OF THE 278 ORDER AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY, SO IT'S ENCOURAGING WHATEVER SOME OF IT'S INCORPORATING THE REST SO I CAN DELETE IT AS A STANDALONE ITEM . I THINK SO.

270 A BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT PUBLIC FACILITIES. I MEAN THIS IS GONNA BE DONE BY T AND HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON AND US AND OUR ENGINEERING. SURE.

>> THERE ARE STILL SOME SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR COUNCIL INPUT ALONG THE WAY.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO KEEP THIS AS A PUBLIC FACILITIES ISSUE THAT WE'VE GOT 170 STUDY AND PLAN.

>> SAME THING. YEAH. YES SIR.

YES, THERE MAY BE SOME MONEY INVOLVED IN WHICH CASE I'LL GO CHRIS BUT RIGHT NOW IT STAYS

WITH YOU. >> OK, I KNOW MULTI JURISDICTION HOUSING TRUST ORGANIZATION WE HAVE A BEAUFORT COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY COMMITTEE WITH REPS FROM EACH ENTITY HAS BEEN APPOINTED TO EVALUATE PROPOSED FORMAT FROM CONTRACTOR WHO IS DOING THE RESEARCH. SIMILAR PROBLEM PROBABLY TO WHAT GREENVILLE S.C. HAS DONE.

NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

AND IT SAYS NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE. SO I ASSUME IT'S COMING TO NATURAL RESOURCE AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM A LOCAL. SO THAT'S ONGOING.

>> OKAY. D CAL SYSTEM AGAIN PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THAT'S THAT'S WORK IN PROGRESS ENTERPRISE FUND FOR RECYCLING AND WASTE PUBLIC FACILITIES.

I WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT ONE A LOT LOST I'M GONNA DELETE THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT FUTURE REFERENCE AND PORT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS REF FUTURE REFERENDUM FOR CHANGING

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FROM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FORM GOVERNMENTS. I FELT WE WERE TWO SEPARATE WAS JUST TWO MORE ATTEMPTS EACH A REFERENDUM FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

I MEAN THAT'LL THAT WILL FLOW FROM OUR FROM MARTIN R C I AMENDED C IP LIST I WOULD THINK IN AND OF COURSE PART OF THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE INVOLVED 170 I WOULD THINK I'D SAY I'D SAY LEAVE IT AT WE'LL LEAVE IT WITH PROBABLY FACILITIES I WORKS VERY YEAH.

>> WHEN I HEAR A VOICE. YEAH. >> THE NEXT ONE IS A FUTURE REFERENDUM CHANGING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT TO COUNTY MANAGER AND BRINGING YOUR NOT UNDER COUNTY MEASURE. WE WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND AS I RECALL THE ONLY REASON THAT WE DID NOT MOVE IT FORWARD WAS IT WAS A CLUTTERED REFERENDUM AND WE WEREN'T SURE THAT THAT IT WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE LOST IN THE MIX. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF IT.

IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH TIME WE WE WE WANTED FOR THE TREASURER ,WE WANTED FOR THE AUDITOR BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT. SO THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN AN INTEREST IN IT.

PERSONALLY I'D LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN BUT I'M ONLY ONE OF ELEVEN AND MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE.

WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING THIS IS IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO BE AN ACTION ITEM OR AT LEAST AN ITEM THAT WE LOOK AT PERIODICALLY TO TRY TO TWEAK AND FINE TUNE AND COME TO US INCLUSION ON THE CHAPTER AFTER YES. TO THAT LITERALLY WILDER WE

TALKED ABOUT IN A TIME AS FAST AS WE DID LAST FALL. >> YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TO GET TALKING YOU KNOW THE MIKE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

>> I APOLOGIZE THAT I SAID NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK I WAS IN FAVOR OF IT.

THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT AS YOU SAID ON THIS PAST, I THINK IT'S QUITE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TO BE DISCUSSED AGAIN. WE SHOULD PUT WHEREVER WHEREVER YOU DECIDE BUT I THINK IT'S

WORTHWHILE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. >> I'D SAY IT'S AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ITEM. NOBODY AGREES WITH THAT. I'M GOING TO PUT THE MARKET SUCH AND I AGREE WITH YOU, MIKE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT, SEE IF WE HAVE ANY KIND OF CONSENSUS. WE'RE NOT UPDATES ON FOUR PROJECTS UNDER THE LAST REFERENDUM. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN AN EARLIER MATTER. SOMEONE DELETE THAT MUNICIPALITY AND COUNTY RELATIONSHIP. THIS WILL DEPEND ON THE SUBJECT AS TO WHAT COMMITTEE CORRECT? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW TO READ THIS. WE DO HAVE REGULAR SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES BACK WITHIN ONE TO DAY WITH BLUFFTON.

WE DON'T HAVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED WITH PARTY BILL OR YOU EVER SEE THAT THAT INVOLVES WHETHER OR NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF OR LESS GENERAL ISSUE DOING SOMETHING I'M NOT AWARE OF.

>> I KNOW PROBABLY ASHLEY IS DOING THESE THINGS ADMINISTRATIVE SCIENTIST OR

CONCERN? >> I'M SORRY SIR. QUESTION I DON'T I DON'T REALLY

THINK THERE IS. >> I THINK I'M SATISFIED WITH WHERE THINGS ARE PERSONALLY.

LET'S ACTUALLY UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT REQUIRE SOME OTHER ACTION, SOME COUNCIL

MEMBERS AS A SUGGESTION SOMETHING WE'RE NOT DOING. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT. SCRATCH THAT ONE. AUDIT COMMITTEE OBVIOUSLY

THAT'S FINANCE. >> UH, COMMUNICATIONS TRANSPARENCY COMMITTEE UPDATES.

THAT'S UH THAT'S MIKE UM. ACTUALLY WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER TODAY.

SO IT'S PROBABLY A DUPLICATION WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TWO MINUTES AGO AGENDA PREPARATION AND CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK THAT I THINK SARAH IS DOING A JAM UP JOB AND I GUESS WE WOULDN'T UNICODE IS BREACHING REACHES ITS PEAK OF EFFICIENCY OR MAKE IT EVEN BETTER. I THINK WE'RE ON SOLID GROUND THERE.

ANYBODY DISAGREE? THANK YOU SIR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR STAFF AND EVERYBODY ELSE AND HELP COMMUNICATE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO ALL DID RIGHT.

I DON'T MEAN TO LEAVE ANYBODY OUT. I JUST DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT GOING TO DELETE THAT ONE. THE PREPARATION AND SAY THANK

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YOU TO EVERYONE WHO MADE THIS IMPROVEMENT ESPECIALLY SARAH, THE OLD COURTHOUSE BUILDING AND THE LEASING OF IT AND DISCONTINUE THIS MARCH. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT . THE COURTHOUSE IS IS PART OF OUR INVENTORY AND IT'S BEING CONSIDERED UNDER THIS STUDY. THEY ARE I'M SORRY THEY ARE A PEACE STUDY THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND AS FAR AS A PARKING LOT IS CONCERNED, WE DID WE HAVE A REPRIEVE ON THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT DECISION IS MADE ON THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE THEN THEY'RE NOT THAT MUCH AND WE MAY WANT TO EXTEND IT OR OR TAKE ANOTHER GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. SO HAPPIER I'D SAY PUBLIC FACILITIES HAS STILL GOT IT AND IT'S A IT'S AN ONGOING ITEM THIS SOUNDS GOOD.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN THE TOWN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NOW. >> CURRENT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND POSSIBLE ADDITIONS AND RENOVATIONS AT PUBLIC FACILITY.

AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO COME FORWARD AS A MATTER OF COURSE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO ANY DISAGREEMENT. THE 2020 CENSUS.

I KNOW A LOT HAS BEEN DONE AND WHO ACTUALLY HAS TAKEN THE INITIATIVE ON THIS.

THANK YOU ACTUALLY. OTHERS MAY ALSO TAKE AN INITIATIVE THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF. THERE ARE A LOT OF ENTITIES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT HAVE TAKEN INITIATIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY A I'M GOING TO SAY IT'S NATURAL RESOURCES AND THERE STAYS BUT ELSE THANK YOU ACTUALLY. INFRASTRUCTURE SHOVEL READY PROJECTS IF THE FEDERAL STIMULUS BILL IS ENACTED THIS INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE EVERY TIME THERE HAVEN'T BEEN THAT MANY FEDERAL STIMULUS BILLS PASSED. BUT IT'S CONCEIVABLE ONE MAY BE PASSED BY THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION OR EVEN THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT MATTER. BUT I REMEMBER LAST TIME WE HAD AN ITEM OR TWO THAT WERE LITERALLY READY. SO AS IT TERMS IT'S THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD THE TERM SHOVEL READY. AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS PROBABLY ALREADY THINKING ABOUT THIS STAFF IS PROBABLY ALREADY THINKING ABOUT IT.

ACTUALLY I'M SURE YOUR PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS THINKING ABOUT ANTICIPATORY THINKING ABOUT THIS. SO IF IT DOES IF X NUMBER DOLLARS COME THROUGH THE PIPELINE WE'LL SAY YEAH WE'VE GOT A PROJECT OVER HERE TO PROJECT OVER HERE.

>> CORRECT. AND THAT'S A REGULAR CONVERSATION THAT I HAVE WITH OUR LOBBYIST LYNN STATE MURRAY AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE THIS ONGOING TERMINAL PROJECT AT THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT. THAT'S ONE OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH HER IN TERMS INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AND THEN

BROADBAND OF COURSE IS A HUGE PART OF THIS AS WELL. >> BUT THE PERSON CURRENTLY IS PFC PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE . I MEAN A LOT THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW DOESN'T DIRECTLY INVOLVE PUBLIC FACILITIES AT SOME POINT IT WILL.

SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT ON THERE IS PFC. ANY DISAGREEMENT THAT THAT

SOUNDS GOOD, PAUL. >> AND OF COURSE INPUT FROM OTHER CHAIRMEN PERIODICALLY SIR, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ERIC RELATED HAS DIRECTLY TO APPROPRIATE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN.

I'D BE HAPPY THAT TO TAKE THAT ON. THANK YOU.

THE FUTURE OF TOURISM IN OUR COUNTY OVER THE NEXT MONTHS AND YEARS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOURISM IS AN INTERESTING CREATURE BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF TOURISM.

THERE'S HEADS AND BEDS AND THEN THERE'S ENVIRONMENTAL TOURISM OR HISTORICAL TOURISM, HERITAGE TOURISM I GUESS IS A GENERIC TERM AND WE'VE WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HARRY'S TOURISM EARLIER AND NOW HEADS IN BEDS TOURISM I THINK FALLS TO THE CHAMBERS PRETTY MUCH I DON'T REALLY SEE THE COUNCIL PLAYING A ROLE OTHER THAN ASKING FOR THE RECEIPTS WHEN WE GIVE THEM MONEY THEY SPEND IT ON ANYBODY SEE THAT DIFFERENTLY ? SO IT REALLY DOESN'T REALLY DOESN'T HAVE. IT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A HOME COMMITTEE COMMITTEE HOME. I'D SAY IT'S ONGOING. THEN WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OUTLOOK CURIOUS, CURIOUS AND OPPORTUNITY UNDER THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

JUST THAT TERMINOLOGY TO MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WITH JOHN TOOL TO SEE WHAT'S IN THE PIPELINE. WHAT'S HE DONE? WHAT DO YOU SEE INTENDING TO DO TO MEET WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA ALLIANCE, WHAT THEY'VE DONE,

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WHAT THEY ARE DOING? I WAS AT ANY BENEFIT GUILFORD COUNTY.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT'S THERE. >> THAT'S GOOD.

>> I THINK I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EDC VERSUS THE CAA.

I MEAN THEY'RE WORKING THEY'RE WORKING IN TANDEM AND I'D LIKE TO THINK HARMONIOUSLY AND AND SO THERE'S THERE'S PRECEDENT FOR US BRINGING FORWARD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CDC WHICH AS YOU SAY IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE JOHN AND THEN FROM THE FCA THE ACA IS ALWAYS HAPPY TO SEND SOMEBODY DOWN FOR THAT. SO PICK UP WITH A POINT IS I AS I UNDERSTAND IS WHY PERIODIC REPORT WHERE I'M GOING TO SAY REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH COMES FORWARD AND GIVES US A LITTLE UPDATE IF THEY WANT TO CONSOLIDATE THEIR PRESENTATION THAT'S FINE WITH US.

AS I RECALL THE LAST TIME THEY DID NOT THEY WANTED TO DO IT SEPARATELY.

I DON'T CARE ANYBODY HERE CARE. I AGREE WITH THEM. WE WANT THE INFORMATION WHETHER THEY CONSOLIDATED AND HOLD HANDS OR WHETHER IT WAS TWO SEPARATE REPORTS.

I DON'T CARE. OK. PAUL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THEY ALREADY GIVING US A QUARTERLY UPDATE ON MY RECOLLECTION. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK THE LAST TIME OR AT SOME POINT THEY POINTED TO THE PRESENTATION SEPARATE OF EACH OTHER AND THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY NEED TO WORK OUT.

BUT THAT'S. BUT AS FAR AS THEM MEETING AND UPDATING CONSOLE THAT'S ALREADY THAT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED. JOHN. AND JOHN KNOWS IT AS WELL AS REPS ON THE ACA SINCE THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO US. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

GERALD, YOU'RE EXACTLY CORRECT. YOUR MEMORY IS JUST BETTER THAN MINE IS NEEDS TO BE ASSIGNED TO A COMMITTEE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOES HAPPEN ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THIS IS A PROBABLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF TYPE OF THINGS THAT FALLS THROUGH THE CRACKS OR IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T MONITOR IT. SO IT COULD BE MONITORED BY THIS COMMITTEE OR IT COULD BE

MONITORED BY OH THIS IS TOO I CAN WEIGH ONE. >> I THINK IT BELONGS TO THE EXECUTIVE BECAUSE IT SPANS MULTIPLE COMMITTEES. AND AND SECONDLY, IF THE TWO OF THEM DON'T COME AT THE SAME TIME AND PRESENT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT MEANS THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM AT THE SAME TIME AND THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AND WE JUDGE WHETHER THE REVISED IF IS WORKING.

>> SO WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST INSTEAD THAT WE LEAVE IT AS A AS AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ITEM TO TO MONITOR IT, MAKE SURE IT DOES COME ON A BASIS? YEAH, BUT THEY SHOULD ALSO COME

AND PRESENT AT THE SAME TIME. >> IF I FIND I THINK THAT THE THE REASON THE SCA WANTED ITS OWN BLOCK OF TIME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL IS BECAUSE THEY FELT OBLIGATED TO GIVE A YEARLY REPORT TO COUNCIL AND THE FDA IS IS A LOT MORE SET UP TO MEET OUR OUR QUARTERLY REPORT KIND OF GUIDELINE. AND I THINK THEY SHOULD BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ATTENTION TO OUR INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS. AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE KEEP IT THE SAME QUARTERLY REPORTS FROM THE FDA, YEARLY REPORTS FROM THE FDA.

>> THEY ARE AFTER ALL THE FDA IS OUR GO BETWEEN. >> SO YOU'RE SAYING THE ONLY THING IN YOUR AS YOU SEE THIS, BRIAN, IS A QUARTERLY NEEDS TO COME FROM FROM THE FDA CDC AS I CALL IT AND THEN THE FCA WILL JOIN THEM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. IS THAT YOUR THOUGHT?

>> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD TAKE. YES, SIR. WELL, I MEAN THAT MAY BE THE WAY IT WORKS OUT. WE'LL FOLLOW IT UP AND THEN OF COURSE THAT OBVIOUSLY WANT TO GIVE THEM SOME INPUT AND IF THEY SAY NO, NO, NO, IT'S GOT TO BE BOTH OF US AT THE SAME TIME. I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO DISAGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY. YEAH. YOUR QUARTERLY FOLLOW UP.

GOT IT. OKAY. KIND OF REQUIREMENTS FOR ATTAINABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS PART OF BUT SCALE HUMAN IMPACT STUDIES.

>> IF YOU THINK WE COMPLETED THE ESCAPE IMPACT STUDY LET'S JUST DELETE THEM.

YEAH. THANK YOU. I WROTE IT COUNTY REQUIREMENTS FOR ATTAINABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS PART OF A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

>> WE CAN TELL HOUSING WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. I THINK WE'VE VERY TALKED ABOUT

IT ON OTHER LISTS. SO I THINK YOU GET DELETED. >> WE'RE ALREADY TAKING IT UP

IN VARIOUS WAYS MAKING A LIST. >> YOU'RE GOING TO TRY. GOT A WATER AND SEWER HOOKUPS

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TO REPLACE FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS WELLS. THIS I THINK MANY OF YOU WILL RECALL THAT AT WE'VE HAD I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD WITH THE

TOWN OF BLUFFTON. >> WE'VE HAD HIM WITH LOCO REGARDING US STONY TONY CREEK PARTICULARLY AND IN THAT KIND OF LEADS INTO ANOTHER TOPIC THAT CAME UP IN OUR BLUFFTON MEETING TODAY. I DID NOT KNOW THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF JOE KNEW IT OR ACTUALLY KNEW IT. I DID NOT KNOW IT AND THAT IS THAT THAT BLUFFTON IS USING STORMWATER FEES TO INSTALL A SANITARY SEWER. AND WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION STAR WAS THAT WE COULDN'T USE STORMWATER FEE FOR SANITARY SEWER.

SO I THINK IT WAS MARK ORLANDO MAYBE IT WAS JOE. SOMEBODY SUGGESTED MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE OUR ORDINANCE TO PERMIT THAT. NOW I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR IN FRONT OF THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WILL HAPPEN AT SOME POINT. I MEAN ACTUALLY YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT OR YOU KNOW I'VE SAID I DO AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST THAT OUR

LANGUAGE AND OUR ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT. >> BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR THE UK'S FUTURE USE OF STORMWATER FEES. SO BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES ALL OVER THE COUNTY THAT NEEDS NEEDS SANITARY SEWER. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO USE STORMWATER FEES FOR BECAUSE IF YOU DO IT IN BLUFFTON, DON'T YOU? YOU'LL HAVE TO DO IT ELSEWHERE .

SO NOW CTP GRANTS ARE AN EXCELLENT SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PURSUE. THE MONEY WAS USED ON AN AIR LOOK UP TO WASTEWATER AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT AT THE SHELL POINT AREA IN INCOME LEVELS DIDN'T QUITE MEET THE CRITERIA. SO YEAH, THIS ONE NEEDS TO STAY IN THE LIST OF THIS FOR SURE. I MEAN IT'S A SLIPPERY IF YOU START USING STORMWATER FEES.

I THINK LEGALLY THAT DOESN'T DOESN'T SIT WELL. THANK YOU, ALEX.

I MEAN ACTUALLY AND ALL OF THAT THOUGH THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT POINT TAKEN ACTUALLY AND PICKED UP BY I. SO ANYWAY THAT'S JUST NOW THAT YOU KNOW, A CONVERSATION THAT TOOK PLACE AND THAT'S THAT'S TO SAY. SO WHERE WERE WE? WE WANTED TO CAPTURE TO PLACE SYSTEMS AND WELLS. THIS IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY BE FUNDED BY C C D G GRANTS IN THE LOW MODERATE INCOME AREAS FOR THE MOST PART WHICH IS NOW UNDER COMMUNITY SERVICES. MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENTS DO THEIR COORDINATION FOR C D G BUT FOR SOME REASON COUNTY HAS DONE UNDER COMMUNITY SERVICES.

THIS MAY BE AN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE CHANGE QUESTION TO WE NEED TO LOOK AT FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS NOT ONLY IN LOW MODERATE INCOME AREAS AS A SOLUTION AS A POLLUTION ISSUE THE STORM WATER IN MY OPINION AND HOW TO REDUCE COSTS WOULD BE FOR JASPER WATER AND SEWER AUTHORITY FOR EXTENDING THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE IT'S FEASIBLE SO IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER COMMUNITY SERVICES AND I DON'T SEE A REASON TO CHANGE THAT AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT THESE SERVICES IT IS IF I MIGHT CALL THE LOW COUNTRY OUTSIDE OF GOVERNMENT AS OUR PIPELINE OR

CVG GRANTS IS YOU KNOW AND A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. >> DB G C D B G.

GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE TO MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES IN THE REGION.

A LOT OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING IMPROVEMENT GRANTS.

QUITE FRANKLY IF IF IF SEPTIC SERVE SEWER TO SEPTIC OR SEPTIC SEWER AND HOUSING ARE ISSUES WITH CVG I THINK THIS IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR A COMMITTEE CHANGE TO SAY AT LEAST WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT AT SOME POINT IN TIME AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THIS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE COMPLETELY UNDER THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE BOTH HER ORGANIZATION SOME OF MY SO FALL WOULD FALL UNDER POTENTIALLY PUBLIC FACILITIES BUT QUITE FRANKLY USING NATURAL RESOURCES TO LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS AS OUR PIPELINE I THINK THAT'S A RATIONAL CHANGE. I AGREE WITH YOU TOO. YOU KNOW NOT TO STEP ON LARRY'S TOES BUT I EXACTLY GET IT MAKE SENSE TO PUT A GOVERNMENTAL RESOURCE LARRY, DO YOU FEEL YOU

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FEEL YOUR FOOT HURT FROM BEING STOMPED ON? NO, NOT IN THE LEAST.

IT MAKES SENSE. WOULD THESE THINGS TO BE PLACED WHERE THEY SHOULD LOGICALLY END UP? I MEAN YOU REALLY CAN'T OBJECT TO THAT KIND OF FORWARD THINKING ON IT. NO, I'M NOT A NO. I'M FINE WITH THAT.

MY COATTAILS DON'T HURT AT ALL. HA HA. OK, WE WILL.

TURN THAT TO NATURAL RESOURCES AND IT'LL BE ON YOUR FORTHCOMING LIST.

ALICE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING SPECIFIC THERE.

OBVIOUSLY WHEN WHEN THOSE MATTERS COME BEFORE COUNCIL THEY GO THROUGH PUBLIC FACILITIES. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO CHANGE THAT BUT RIGHT NOW THEY

DO. >> I THINK THAT AT SOME POINT WE WANT TO LOOK AT OVERALL PLAN FOR TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENT TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE COUNTY, THE ADMINISTRATION OF OUR COUNTY SERVICES ETC. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.

SO FOR NOW IT STAYS WHERE IT IS. KEEP FAIRY CURRENT AND FUTURE LOCATION THAT I UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY IS THEIR CURRENT CONTRACT HAS EXPIRED.

YES SIR. >> IT HAS A VERY BROAD NETWORK COMMUNITY SERVICES TO DISCOVER THE CAUSE FOR ALARM. NO, I'M NOT AWARE THAT THERE'S A CAUSE FOR ALARM OTHER THAN WE

HAVE NATIONAL NO. >> THERE'S NO THERE'S NO CONCERN FOR ALARM.

EVERYTHING IS GOING TO CONTINUE BUSINESS AS USUAL AND INSURANCE IS INTACT AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING. BUT SOME WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS THE RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT.

>> I WOULD SAY THAT THAT MATTER NEEDS TO BE UNDER PUBLIC FACILITIES.

ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT? >> BFC AND WHAT DO FRISKY FAIRY?

>> YEAH. YEAH WELL I THINK THE LOCATION IS BY DEFAULT A PFC SUBJECT MATTER. BUT I THINK THE SERVICE'S THAT ARE THAT COME AND GO FROM THAT LOCATION. THAT'S A COMMUNITY SERVICES FUNCTION AND IT SHOULD ALWAYS REMAIN THAT WAY. IT'S. YEAH.

I I WANT LARRY TO HANDLE THAT. AND I HAVE MISSED IT. CAN WE.

CAN WE ADJOURN PRETTY SOON SO WE CAN SET UP THE NEXT MEETING? YEAH THAT WILL CLEAN THIS UP IN

THE PFC FOR THE CONTRACT. >> IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BRIAN?

>> NO. OR THE TERMINAL TERMINAL. >> IT SAYS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WHAT RIBAUT? HOW IS IT A TERMINAL BUILDING?

OK. >> AND SO MANY BUT THE SERVICE ITSELF GOES TO WHERE IT IS.

>> YEAH. COMMUNITY SERVICES. >> RIGHT.

OK. SO THE SERVICE YOU HAVE THAT SET UP FOR THE MONDAY MEETING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS YOUR CONTRACT AND MOVE THAT FORWARD.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD STAY. BUT WITH REGARD TO THE LOCATION OR BUILDING OR IRAQ, YOU KNOW, WRECKING A TERMINAL OR LOCATING IT, I THINK THAT RIGHTLY GOES

TO PUBLIC HILTON HEAD AIRPORT. >> I'M SORRY. WE'RE DONE WITH THAT ONE.

LET ME TRY TO. HILTON HEAD AIRPORT EXPANSION I GUESS THAT'S PUBLIC FACILITIES.

ANY DISAGREEMENT? >> COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> NATURAL RESOURCES.

WHY WE JUST CUT IT RIGHT THERE AND THEN WE'LL PICK IT UP NEXT TIME IN THE MEANTIME.

I WILL TRY TO CLEAN THIS UP AND CONSOLIDATE THE ASSIGNMENTS IN AND DISTRIBUTE THOSE TO THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES INVOLVED. OBVIOUSLY THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS BURNOUT.

>> THANK ALL MATTERS THAT WE THAT WE COULD SQUEEZE INTO THE

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