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MEETING TO ORDER.[Call to Order]
THIS IS THE AGENDA SETTING MEETING FOR THE BUFORD COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION ON AUGUST 6TH, 2020 AT 4:00 PM.[• Approval of Agenda]
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I MOVE.IS MR. SMITH ON THE CALL? UM, I DON'T SEE HIM.
OKAY, WELL, I'LL SECOND IT, SINCE HE'S NOT HERE, BUT WE HAVE A QUORUM, ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY MR. WILLIAM SMITH, ABSENT.
[• Pledge of Allegiance, Statement of Media Notification]
NOW STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ONE UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE.
[• Setting August 14-15, 2020 Board Work Session Meeting Agenda]
SO NOW WE CAN, UM, MOVE ON TO THE SETTING OF THE AGENDA FOR OUR BOARD WORK SESSION, WHICH IS NEXT FRIDAY AND SATURDAY, AUGUST 14TH AND 15TH.UM, IT APPEARS AND MR. SMITH IS ON NOW.
SO WHICH ONE OF THOSE IS WHO? UM, MR. SMITH, ARE YOU WITH US? THIS IS DR.
SO WE'RE ONTO THE AGENDA TOPICS, UH, FOR THE AUGUST 14, 15 WORK SESSION.
AND I SEE YOU'RE, UH, PARTICIPATING BY PHONE.
UM, SO I'LL READ THE LIST OF TOPICS THAT WE HAVE, UH, IDENTIFIED PARLIAMENTARIAN REQUIRED.
TITLE NINE CHANGES TO ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS FROM OPERATIONS AND ACADEMIC COMMITTEES, LENGTH OF BOARD MEETING.
RODRIGUEZ EVALUATION, PORT ROYAL TIFF UPDATE ON ACE TECHNOLOGY PLAN DURING COVID K-12 DEVICES, REFRESH POLICY COMMITTEE WORK, FISCAL AUTONOMY, TAN, NOT AS A CHAIR.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER EMAILS.
UM, ONE I THINK FROM TRICIA AND ONE FROM MR. DOWN.
AND THERE WAS ONE FROM MR. DELL AND THOSE ARE ALL ALSO.
AND TRISHA WAS, UM, YOUR TRISHA WAS THE, UH, BOARD SELF-EVALUATION RIGHT.
AND, UH, KATHY, YOU HAVE A TOPIC.
I DO HAVE A TOPIC I'D LIKE TO PUT A BOARD MEMBER BEHAVIOR ON THE AGENDA.
DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY BEHAVIOR OR KIND OF CONDUCT IS FINE.
AND THEN I THINK MR. DARLINGS WAS, UM, MADAM CHAIR OR SOMETHING.
I ACTUALLY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT, WHAT IT MEANT.
SO, BUT HE DID SEND AN EMAIL TODAY.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT EITHER.
UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND IT DISCUSSION REGARDING BOARD MEMBERS, ACCESS TO PERSONNEL ISSUES AND MATTERS.
ONCE THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED BY THE APPROPRIATE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS EITHER.
AND THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH COHERENT GOVERNANCE.
UM, I DON'T, WELL, I THINK THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE OF BOARD MEMBER ACCESS TO PERSONNEL.
AND I THINK, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
WELL, LET'S WORK ON THE OTHER THINGS, CAUSE THAT CAME IN LAST AND THEN, UM, IT DOESN'T, YEAH.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S EVEN APPROPRIATE, BUT ANYWAYS, SO THE PARLIAMENTARIAN, UH, THAT'S TIFFANY RICHARDSON AS THE BOARD APPROVED, UM, AT THE MEETING ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND, UH, IT'S A TWO HOUR PRESENTATION.
THAT INCLUDES, IT INCLUDES A Q AND A, AND SHE WOULD LIKE FRIDAY FROM 10 TO 12
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SKIPPING DOWN TO DAVID'S POLICY COMMITTEE WORK.CAN WE HAVE MULTIPLE OTHER POLICY MEMBERS HERE TODAY? I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE GOOD ON SATURDAY, RIGHT, DAVID? UM, YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT BE QUITE LENGTHY.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE OKAY.
SO WOULD YOU, WHAT KIND OF TIME ESTIMATE WOULD YOU THINK I WOULD GIVE IT A THREE OR FOUR HOURS AT LEAST.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW ARGUMENTS WITH PEOPLE ARE.
I DON'T WANT TO BE SAY YOU WANT TO TRY NINE TO 12.
CAUSE I'M REALLY LIKE, I'D LIKE TO GET THROUGH THE FIRST READING.
NOW, UM, THE TITLE NINE CHANGES ARE A MUST BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT APPROVING IT, WE NEED TO BE INFORMED ABOUT IT AND IT'S HAS TO BE, IT BECOMES A LAW ON AUGUST 14TH.
SO IT WOULD LIGHT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FRIDAY.
SO WE REVIEWED THAT IN OPERATIONS AND IT TOOK ABOUT AN HOUR.
SO MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THAT NINE TO 10 OR NINE FRIDAY.
IF YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, UM, WENDY'S ON THE PHONE.
IF I COULD DO THAT FROM NINE TO 10, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND THEN I'LL GET IT RIGHT UP ON THE WEBSITE.
SO IN THE PAST ROBIN, CAN YOU REMIND US THAT YOU HEAR ON THE CALL TODAY? THE, ON FRIDAY, IT USUALLY THE IT'S GONE FROM WHAT? NINE TO LIKE THREE 30 OR FOUR OR WHAT'S OUR TYPICAL, UM, ENDING TIME.
UM, WE HAVE GONE AS FAR AS UP TILL SIX O'CLOCK IT DEPENDS ON HOW, UM, BUT, UM, BUT USUALLY IF YOU CAN STOP AROUND FOUR O'CLOCK SINCE YOU'RE STARTING AGAIN ON SATURDAY, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
BUT, UM, THESE ARE USUALLY THE DAYS THAT YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS OR, UM, SO THAT THEY WOULD NOT COME ON SATURDAYS.
I'M NOT TALKING SENIOR STAFF, I'M TALKING LIKE IF OTHER STAFF MEMBERS ARE PULLED IN TO PRESENT, SO WE TRY TO KEEP THEM ON FRIDAY IF POSSIBLE.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE OTHER TOPICS.
UH, DO WE HAVE CONFIRMATION THAT THE PORT ROYAL CIF PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO COME? NO, MA'AM UH, WHEN WILL WE FIND OUT? UM, I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH TANYA TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING FROM MS. UM, THE TOWN MANAGER CAN, UH, DR.
RODRIGUEZ, MAYBE YOU COULD REACH OUT TO TANYA WHILE WE'RE ON THIS CALL.
CAUSE, CAUSE IT'D BE NICE IF WE HAD THE ANSWER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, 15 MINUTES OR SOMETHING.
SO, UM, KATHY, AND WE'LL, WHAT DO YOU THINK? UH, WELL, HARMON TYRIAN IS TILL NOON AND I THINK WE SHOULD MAYBE HAVE A HALF HOUR BREAK OR A 45 MINUTE BREAK.
YEAH, WE DEFINITELY NEED WHOLE HOUR.
UM, WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, REMOTE RIGHT.
UM, IS THAT GOOD WITH YOU? WE'LL UH, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN HOUR BREAK, BUT I WANT A HALF HOUR.
I MEAN, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY GO TO.
UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I'M LOOKING AT, WHAT REQUIRES STAFF, THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M DOING, THE TECHNOLOGY PLAN DURING COVID THAT WILL REQUIRE STAFF.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS.
IF THEY, THE SCHOOL AUTONOMY THAT'S A BOARD THING.
THAT WOULD BE TANYA AND THE BOARD.
AND, UM, TAN, TAN, BUT SO MAYBE WE COULD PUT THOSE, I'M NOT SURE, LIKE IN ORDER AND THE LET'S PUT MAYBE LIKE THE TECHNOLOGY PLAN FIRST, THEN THE FISCAL AUTONOMY, THEN THE TAN, THEN THE UPDATE ON ACE AND THEN THE TIF.
AND THAT WOULD BE PLENTY FOR THE AFTERNOON.
AND WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO YEAH.
IF WE CAN GET ALL THAT IN, IN THE AFTERNOON.
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YEAH.SO SAY THAT AGAIN, THE TECHNOLOGY PLAN THAT WOULD BE LIKE AT 1230 TO ONE 30 OR I S I DON'T, W LET'S SAY ONE, I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING? DOES ANYBODY REALLY HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON HOW LONG THAT WOULD BE? IS IT JUST ABOUT THE DEVICES? I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT ABOUT OUR TECHNOLOGY RECENTLY IN TERMS OF INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, DAVID TRISHA, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE
BUT AGAIN, I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE BOARD MEETING THAT YOU JUST HAD ON TUESDAY.
MAYBE YOU HAD A GOOD PRESENTATION ON THAT WE DID FROM, UM, LYNN STOKES, MARIE.
WELL, MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, WHAT ALL, WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL WHEN IT SAYS TECHNOLOGY? I MEAN, BECAUSE TECHNOLOGY CAN BE A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS.
I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE MORE, MORE IN DEPTH AND MORE PRECISE ON WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.
WELL, WE KNOW WE, I GUESS THE IMPORTANT THING WOULD BE ONE, WE KNOW THAT THE STUDENTS ARE COMING BACK TO SCHOOL ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, VIRTUAL ONLY.
SO, AND WE KNOW WE'VE APPROVED THE SOFTWARE, WHAT THEY'LL BE USING THE LEARNING PROGRAM.
SO IT WOULD REALLY BE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE DEVICES PRIMARILY, AND THE OTHER THINGS OF HOW THE CONNECTIVITY, ET CETERA.
SO HOW ABOUT 45 MINUTES? MAYBE THAT'D BE GOOD.
THAT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND WHAT DID WE SAID NEXT? CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN? NO, ROBIN'S WORKING.
SHE CAN'T DO THE TAN OR, YEAH, THE TAN, I THINK.
AND THEN THE FISCAL AUTONOMY, THOSE WOULD BOTH BE, UM, WE TANYA.
AND SO THE TAN WOULD BE, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SUPER LONG.
I THINK IT WOULD BE MAYBE A ONE 15 TO ONE 45 AND THE FISCAL AUTONOMY.
PROBABLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME SINCE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
AND THEN MAYBE A 15 MINUTE BREAK WOULD BE REASONABLE, I THINK.
JUST PUT A BREAK AND THEN ALL RIGHT.
THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT DAY WAS THE UPDATE ON ACE, RIGHT.
AND WHAT IS THE UPDATE ON ACE ENTAIL? I THINK IT ENTAILED MS. AURA SHAQ REALLY WANTED TO KNOW, UH, WELL, LET ME LET, I WON'T SPEAK.
I'LL LET, UH, EARL, SINCE HE IS ON THAT.
UM, AND, AND SO IS TRISHA, BUT WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD EARLY? UH, NO, WHEN I WOULD DEAL WITH CONTRACT, WE HAVE WITH THEM.
UM, AND I DON'T, WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT AND I KNOW JASPER MORE THAN THEM.
HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT EITHER, YOU KNOW? UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS A REASONABLE TIME ESTIMATE EARL? WELL, WE'LL SAY 45 MINUTES.
UM, THAT WOULD BE TWO 30 TO THREE 15 ROBYN.
AND THEN THE LAST THING WOULD BE THE TIFF.
IF THEY'RE ABLE TO COME THERE.
SO, AND WOULD THAT BE 30 MINUTES OR 45? WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK IT COULD BE MORE AT LEAST 45.
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YES.WE'LL PUT, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM ON FRIDAY AT THE, AT THE END OF THE AGENDA, THREE 50, STARTING AT THREE 15, MAYBE FOR 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR OR WHATEVER THEY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE.
SO NOW WE'RE ONTO, UM, SO SATURDAY, SATURDAY, WE START OFF WITH THE POLICY AND AFTER LUNCH, I THINK WE, IT SHOULD BE, UM, YEAH.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, KATHY AND WE'LL, WE'VE GOT, LET'S SEE, BOARD MEMBER CONDUCT, WHICH IS THE LENGTH OF THE BOARD MEETING IS GOING TO GO INTO THAT AND DR.
UM, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD START OFF WITH THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE VALUATION.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ALREADY GOT A, UH, INSTRUMENT.
WE JUST HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
UM, I HAD ASKED, UH, WHETHER WE GET IT, LOOK AT, AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE SELF EVALUATION.
RODRIGUEZ EVALUATION OR JUST AS, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY LONG DISCUSSION.
1230 TO, UH, MAYBE W WELL AS A, AS A POLICY, UH, WE DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO TO LUNCH OR WHAT TIME ARE WE TAKING? YEAH.
TONIGHT AT 12, THE SAME WAY WE DID IT ON FRIDAY.
SO WE SPARED AT 1230, 1230 TO ONE O'CLOCK.
YEAH, THAT SOUNDS PRETTY SIMPLE.
45 OTHER, WE DON'T HAVE 40 MINUTES FOR LUNCH VERSUS 30.
I WOULD BE MORE AND MORE, MORE TIME.
AT LEAST YOU CAN EAT YOUR FOOD AND USE THE RESTROOM AT THE SAME TIME.
WELL, ACTUALLY AT THE BEGINNING, MR. SMITH, YOU SAID ONE HOUR, AND THEN YOU SAID YOU WERE FINE WITH A HALF AN HOUR.
SO THAT'S HOW WE SETTLED ON A HALF AN HOUR.
I THOUGHT I SAID, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ALL WE PUT ON ONE DAY.
I SAID, I SAID, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT ALL WE PUT ON ONE DAY, WHAT TIME WE FINISHED WOULD BE THE TEA WILL BE WHAT I THOUGHT, WHERE I WOULD BE THINKING UPON WHAT, WHAT, HOW MUCH TIME WE WOULD GO WITH FOR LUNCH.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHAT MY STATEMENT WAS.
LET'S FINISH DOING THE AGENDA AND THEN WE CAN ADD TIME THERE IF WE NEED TO.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE NEXT, UH, BOARD MEMBER CONDUCT.
NO, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE, WHAT DO YOU THINK KATHY? UM, HALF AN HOUR.
I THINK THAT ALSO SEGUES INTO, UH, LENGTH OF BOARD MEETINGS AND THE BOARD SELF EVALUATION, ALL THOSE THINGS KIND OF LUMPED TOGETHER.
LIKE WE LIKE WILLIAM HAS JUST NOW SUGGESTED 1245.
THE, YEAH, THE LUNCH FROM 12 TO 1245.
RODRIGUEZ IS EVALUATION 1245 TO ONE 15
I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DISCUSS ALL THREE OF THESE TOGETHER.
WELL, WE CAN PUT THEM SEPARATE THERE.
THEY'RE LISTED SEPARATE, BUT THEY, THEY KIND OF MELD INTO EACH OTHER.
WELL, I THINK THAT A PART OF THE EVALUATION COULD BE CONDUCT AND IT COULD BE THE LENGTH OF THE BOARD.
I MEAN, THE LENGTH OF THE BOARD, MISS A BOARD MEETING IS DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK SELF EVALUATION AND BOARD CONDUCT, THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THINGS.
SO, SO I THINK THAT WE'RE JUST BEING MORE PACIFIC AND THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE TALKED ABOUT
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MORE SPECIFICALLY OR WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EVALUATION.BUT I THINK THAT TO HAVE A BOARD TO HAVE BOARD MEMBERS MEAN MEAN MISCONDUCT AND SELF EVALUATION TO BE DOWN THERE, BASICALLY THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
THOSE ARE NOT ALLOWING THEM ALONG THE LINES OF THE SAME OR THE SAME DEFINITIONS.
SO I, I THINK THAT W W WE'RE HAVING TWO CONVERSATIONS, UH, THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ONE.
I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY, WE NEED BOARD MEMBER, BOARD MEMBER CONDUCT, UH, UM, UM, ON THERE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT TOPIC COULD BE BROUGHT UP WHEN, WHEN WE STARTED DISCUSSING THE, UH, SELF EVALUATION.
WELL, I THINK THE SELFIE VALUATION, WE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO USE.
WE AREN'T ACTUALLY GOING TO DO THE SELF EVALUATION.
HAVEN'T WHAT KIND OF INSTRUMENT OR WHAT KIND OF PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO USE? THAT'S A PROCESS.
HOW LONG WAS THAT THERE, ALONG THAT PROCESS, THAT THERE ARE DEEP CONVERSATIONS THAT GO INTO THAT PROCESS.
I MEAN, THAT, WE'RE JUST NOT TALKING, WE'RE NOT JUST TOUCHING THINGS AND SCRATCHING THE SURFACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IN DEPTH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT WE MUST START DOING AS A BOARD.
WE MUST START GETTING IN DEPTH AND START TALKING TO THEM.
THERE'S CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT WHAT'S, THE LEVEL OF EXPECTATION IS AS A BOARD.
AND I'LL BE, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'VE ALWAYS POSSIBLY BEEN DOING THAT.
I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH GOING ON IN COVERT THAT WE'VE BEEN SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF A LOT OF THINGS.
SO, UM, ROBIN, MY SUGGESTION BOARD, SELF EVALUATION, WHAT YOU PUT PROCESS THERE, JUST SO IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING THE EVALUATION AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A, OR WHAT DO YOU THINK THE LENGTH OF THE BOARD MEETING WOULD BE? I WOULD LEAVE THAT THERE, THERE, I, I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT SELF EVALUATION.
WE DID USE TO DO THAT IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, ON THE POLICY GOVERNANCE.
UM, SO IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO HARD TO COME UP WITH.
UH, WE SHOULD JUST HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE FROM THE PAST AND GO BACK OVER IT AND DO THE EXPIRATION DATE.
SO MAYBE DAVID'S RAISING FOR EACH OF THOSE THREE THINGS.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE UNDER COHERENT GOVERNANCE, SO IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE OLD ONE.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RETHINK IT, SO, YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE WON'T, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO JUST CUT AND PASTE.
SO I THINK BOARD MEMBER CONDUCT SHOULD BE 30 TO 45 MINUTES, KATHY.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? 30 MINUTES.
I THINK THE LENGTH OF THE BOARD MEETING IS GOING TO BE ABOUT A HALF AN HOUR OR TWO.
IT WAS THAT GOOD EARL CAUSE THAT'S YOUR TOPIC EARL.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'D BE GOOD ENOUGH TIME.
AND THEN THE LAST ITEM, MAYBE ANOTHER 30 MINUTES.
SO WE'VE KIND OF, UM, WHERE DO WE DO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON EACH DAY? WHAT, REMIND ME, REMIND ME WHAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY ON THE WORK SESSIONS.
SO, I MEAN, WE'VE STARTED THEM OFF AT USUALLY WE TRY TO START THEM OFF AT THE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING, BECAUSE THEN THAT GIVES IT, THE DETERMINES IS A TIME WHEN WE'VE GONE AFTER WE NEVER KNOW WHEN WE GET FINISHED.
SO IT'S VERY HARD TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS IF WE WANT TO DO IT ON BOTH DAYS TO DO IT, THE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING, MORNING ON BOTH DAYS.
W WELL, I WAS GOING TO, I WAS GOING TO SAY HOW ABOUT MAYBE THE SECOND DAY AFTER LUNCH? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GETTING UP REGULARLY AT THAT TIME, UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE, MAY HAVE TO HAVE DESIRE TO, UH, GET UP AT THAT TIME THAT NOT CLOCK ON A SATURDAY TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DAVID, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT?
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NO, MA'AM NO.MA'AM, I'M GOING TO CHEAT UP TO MYSELF.
SO, WELL LET'S, SO WE SEEM LIKE WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
LET'S DO THEM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST DAY.
WELL, THE FIRST DAY WE WOULD DO IT AT EIGHT 30 OR EIGHT 45.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FULL 30 MINUTES OF PEOPLE.
WELL THEN LET, THEN LET'S GO TO EIGHT 30.
UM, AT LUNCHTIME THEN, OR, I MEAN, BUT THEY WON'T HAVE THE BEGINNING.
THEY CAN HAVE IT THE BEGINNING TO ME.
IT CAN BE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
LET'S I THINK THAT'S, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE.
I'M GOING TO GET UP AND DO IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE YOU THINK EIGHT 30 OR EIGHT 45? WELL, DON'T IN A REGULAR BOARD MEETING.
THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE 30 MINUTES AND THE SECOND ARE 15.
SO LET'S JUST KEEP IT THAT WAY.
SO THAT WILL BE AT EIGHT 45 ROBIN SATURDAY.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WROTE EMAILS TO RACHEL ARE GOING TO GET ON.
THAT'S WHAT I, YEAH, IT'S A ONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, WE JUST RECESS.
SO HONESTLY, IF WE HAD A FULL HALF, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENTS THE FIRST DAY, THE FULL HALF HOUR, WE COULD SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA MOVE AHEAD TO, OR MOVE IT TO EIGHT 30 TO ALLOW FOR MORE PEOPLE TO SPEAK.
THAT'D BE ANOTHER OPTION ON THE SECOND DAY.
AND IT'S ONLY RECESS, SO THAT WOULDN'T MATTER.
I THINK WE'LL GET A FEEL FOR THAT AFTER WE HAVE OUR FIRST DAY.
UM, THE ONLY THING I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS ROBIN, JUST WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS, UH, UP, YOU SEE THE PROBLEM MATERIAL AND THE TITLE IX JUST NEED TO BE, FLIP-FLOPPED THE ORDER.
GODSON, OUR ACADEMIC COMMITTEE MEETING TODAY, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE FOREIGN EXCHANGE AR UM, ON THE AGENDA TOO.
AND I WAS GOING TO, I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP.
THAT'S INCREDIBLY APPROPRIATE FOR HAVING THAT, UM, IN FRONT OF THE BOARD PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR.
AND SO WHAT'S THE TIME REQUIREMENT? 10 MINUTES.
AT THE MOST, AT THE MOST, YEAH.
BOTH OF THOSE THINGS UNDER, UM, YOU'RE NOT YOUR NINE TO 10 BLOCK.
CAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE ALREADY.
UM, SO ROBIN, I THINK YOU'VE GOT DR.
AND THEN WE'LL, UM, PUT JOHN'S DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
I, I WOULD SAY WHY, WHY WE CAN PUT IT ON, ON, ON, ON, ON SATURDAY AT THE END OF THE DAY.
IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT I DON'T THAT I'M.
WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE CLARITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS.
SO I WAS, I WAS THINKING MAYBE, MAYBE WE SHOULD GET THE CLEARLY ON THE, ON THE FIRST DAY AND WHEN THE CONVERSATION COME UP WITH, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S, WHEN WE CAN DECIDE WHATEVER IT IS, ASK THEM WHAT IT IS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE A RULING ON IT, UM, THAT DAY AND SAY, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A DISCUSSION FOR THIS BOARD AT THIS TIME.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MIGHT WORK.
UM, UH, WHAT MR. SMITH JUST SAID, BECAUSE THEN IF WE'RE TRYING, IF ALICE NEEDS TO BE THERE, BECAUSE DAVID, I THINK THE WORDING OF IT A PERSONNEL MATTER IS THAT RIGHT? I HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
YOU WANT ME TO READ IT, PLEASE? IT SAYS DISCUSSION REGARDING BOARD MEMBERS, ACCESS TO PERSONNEL ISSUES SLASH MATTERS.
ONCE THOSE ISSUES SLASH MATTERS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED BY THE
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APPROPRIATE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY.I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET CLARITY ON THAT, OR IT COULD BE A VERY BRIEF DISCUSSION BECAUSE ALICE WALTON COULD JUST TELL US WHAT THE RULES ARE.
SO IF WE HAD IT ON FRIDAY AND IF WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT, SO THAT STAFF MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY STAFF RELATED THINGS ARE FRIDAY, RIGHT? WELL, MOST, MOST SENIOR STAFFS THAT ARE THERE ON SATURDAYS AND FRIDAYS.
I WAS JUST SUPPORTING YOUR IDEA MR. SMITH, THAT YOU WANTED IT ON FRIDAY.
SO KATHY, WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION LOOKING AT THIS? OH, LET'S SEE.
I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PORT ROYAL TIF.
WE COULD PUT IT IN THERE IF YEAH.
UM, SO MAYBE HAVE THE UPDATE ON ACL THREE 15, THE IT'S REALLY PERSONNEL DISCLOSURE TO BOARD MEMBERS.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S A VERY BRIEF DESCRIPTION.
COULD BE A VERY BRIEF DISCUSSION.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ONE OF THE OFFICERS GET CLARITY FOR MR. DALLIN ON SPECIFICALLY WHAT HE'S REQUESTING.
WELL, WELL, TO BE QUITE HONEST, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH, IF HE WANT TO MAKE IT, EVERYONE HAS A CONVERSATION.
I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS HAVE HAVING IT PUBLICLY, EVEN IF IT'S EVEN, EVEN IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD SHOW SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN.
IF WE HAVE THE POWER CONVERSATION PUBLICLY AND THEN THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HAD ALREADY.
SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING THE CONVERSATION, POP, POP PUBLICLY AND LET THEM KNOW THAT JOHN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE THOUGH.
IT'S JUST HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
I THINK, I THINK THAT SOMEONE, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE MISSING W W SOME OF US ARE DOING ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA.
THERE'S A SCRIPTURE IN MY INTERPRETATION THAT SOME OF US ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE SHOULDN'T BE ON THE AGENDA OR AS A MEMBER OF SOME BOARD DISCUSSION.
AND SOME OF US ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE.
I THINK YOU'RE INSINUATING THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY, WE COULD GIVE US, THEN IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
I'M NOT INSINUATING ANYTHING I'M BEING QUITE CLEAR.
I ASSUME THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE.
IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT ME ON THAT.
SO, UM, THE UPDATE ON A, WHO'S GOING TO BE, WHO WOULD THAT BE? THAT WOULD BE DR.
WOULD THAT BE DOC? THAT WOULD BE DR.
I'M SURE WE NEVER DID FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WERE GOING TO WHERE WE, WHERE WE WERE GOING TO PUT THAT LAST SITUATION ON IT.
I KNOW I'M TRYING, I'M FIGURING IT OUT RIGHT NOW.
MR. SMITH, PLEASE GIVE ME A FEW MOMENTS.
THIS IS, AS FAR AS, HEY, SHE ASKED DR.
RODRIGUEZ CAN LEAD THAT OFF BECAUSE THEN THEY HAVE NO BEEN NO DISCUSSION BETWEEN HIM AND THE SUPERINTENDENT OF JASPER.
AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IN A DISCUSSION BETWEEN YOU AND THE CHAIR OF JASPER, YOU KNOW, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO ALSO, UH, GET PAYS ATTORNEY INVOLVED IN THIS ALSO.
SO LET'S PUT IT AFTER THAT, BEFORE THE TIFF, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TIF.
SO ANY SUGGESTIONS, UH, DAVID, SINCE YOU'VE READ THE EMAIL A FEW TIMES, WHAT DO YOU THINK DISCUSSION SHOULD BE LABELED BOARD MEMBER ACCESS TO RESOLVE PERSONNEL ISSUES? I THINK, YEAH, I THINK SO TOO, TWO RESOLVED ISSUES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED, RESOLVED AS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE EMAIL.
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK, UH, SOMEBODY SHOULD, SHOULD CONTACT MR. ALLEN AND GET A BETTER RIGHT NOW? LET'S PUT IN, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SUPER LONG.
SO WE'RE ALSO GONNA, I ASSUME THIS IS A, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE MS. WALTON.
THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING IT THERE.
SO LET'S DO THREE 15 TO THREE 30 AND THEN THE PORT ROYAL TIFF CAN BE
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THREE 30 TO FOUR 30.WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT, LISTEN, SHE SAID THAT SHE JUST READ OFF ALL THOSE THINGS ON THERE.
WE DIDN'T TAKE OUT ANY, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO PUT A BREAK IN ON SATURDAY? GOOD IDEA.
WELL, WE MADE LUNCH LONGER ON SATURDAY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO FINISH AT TWO 45.
SO THAT'S JUST WHAT TWO HOURS I THINK, I DON'T THINK WE NEED AN AFTERNOON BREAK AS SOMETHING ELSE I WILL.
UM, UM, I'LL MAKE, TO HAVE ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, THE BOARD STAFF ABOUT THE BOARD, UH, THE BOARD, THE BOARD, THE BOARD, THE BOARD, THE BOARD STAFF, STAFF, OR STAFF.
WELL, THAT'S, UH THAT'S SO YOU'RE SAYING OUR, THE STAFF MEMBERS, THE STAFF THAT WORKS FOR THE COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION, THAT WOULD BE A PRI THAT WOULD BE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION MATTER BECAUSE THAT'S A PERSONNEL EVALUATION THAT WOULD NOT BE AN OPEN MATTER.
AND, AND ALSO, ALSO, ALSO, WELL, BASICALLY ALSO THE, THE, THE, UH, I, I REMEMBER THAT WE ALSO NEED YOU TO REDO THE, THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANCE, UH, EVALUATION.
SO SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DR.
RODRIGUEZ EVALUATION, THAT'S WHAT, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON.
AND WE DID ACTUALLY, I WOULD, I THINK THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT ON THE AGENDA SETTING.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY, THAT THERE WERE THINGS IN THAT, AND THERE WERE THINGS IN THAT, IN THE EXECUTIVE, UH, UM, IN EXECUTIVE ASSISTANTS EVALUATION, THAT WAS NOT THAT, THAT WAS NOT, THERE WAS NO WAY TO BE ABLE TO BE MEASURED.
AND ALSO THERE WERE THINGS THAT WAS, I WAS QUESTIONABLE.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT PUBLICLY ABOUT THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANTS, UH, EVALUATION.
DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT, KATHY, BECAUSE YOU WORKED HARD ON THAT.
AND WELL, WHEN WE HAD THE EVALUATION, IT WAS DONE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE IT'S A PERSONALITY ISSUE.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN, UH, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK WE IT'S A, IT'S A PUBLIC SESSION ISSUE.
UM, AT THE TIME WE REDID HER JOB DESCRIPTION, UH, BASED ON THE CURRENT, UH, DUTIES THAT WERE BEING PERFORMED, WE REDID THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND MADE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION WAS BEING EVALUATED ON THE EVALUATION.
AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS, SHOULD BE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE HAVING A MEETING AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.
AND THEN THE AGENDA SAID, THAT'S NOT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT.
WELL, MY EVALUATION IN PUBLIC, SO THAT IT'S NOT A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
SHE WASN'T DONE IN OCTOBER, SO IT'S NOT DUE UP AGAIN UNTIL, AGAIN UNTIL OCTOBER.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE THERE WHEN THERE WAS NOT JUST ME, THERE WERE SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS WHO WAS, WHO STATED THAT THERE WERE THINGS ON THE EVALUATION THAT W THAT WERE POSSIBLY QUESTIONABLE.
AND SO THEREFORE THERE, THEREFORE I BELIEVE THAT THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED BEFORE OCTOBER.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP WAY BEFORE OCTOBER SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THOSE THINGS.
OR WE CAN ADD IT TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT A FUTURE DATE.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
ALSO, KATHY, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
DAVID JUST COULD CLARIFY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOOL THAT PROBABLY COULD BE DONE IN PUBLIC SESSION.
ALL MEMBERS HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE.
WELL, I'M JUST SAYING IF IT'S THE TOOL, IT IS PUBLIC SESSION STUFF.
IF IT'S THE ACTUAL EVALUATION HAS TO BE DONE PRIVATELY.
SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WILL IS, IS, IS LOOKING FOR HERE.
BUT I JUST THROW MY 2 CENTS AND I AM TALKING ABOUT THE TOOL AND I THINK THE TOOL SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE WERE, THERE WAS MORE THAN JUST ME WHO SAID THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT WERE QUESTIONABLE THINGS ON THE, ON THE TWO OF THE, OF THE, OF THAT POSITION.
AND SO I'M ASKING THAT IS WORST SESSION THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THE TOOL
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AND IF EVERYONE'S FINE WITH IT, THEN IT WON'T, IT WON'T BE LONG.IF THERE'S QUESTIONABLE, THEN THERE WILL BE A, IT COULD BE A 15, 20 MINUTE DISCUSSION.
WHAT IS THIS? NO HARM AS A BOARD MEMBER OF LOOKING AT LOVE, LOOKING AT THAT, THAT, THAT TOOL.
BECAUSE I PURSUED TO REMEMBER THAT THERE WERE THINGS ON THAT TOOL THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS QUESTIONABLE.
AND ALONG WITH ME, THERE WERE, THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE WHO STATED THE SAME THING ASSIGNED MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHY WE'RE GETTING PUSHBACK.
WHY, WHY, WHY I'M GETTING PUSHED BACK OR ASK YOU FOR THE, TO, TO, TO BE LOOKED AT.
I MEAN, IT WAS, THERE WAS NOT A PROBLEM.
THAT'D BE A 15 MINUTE CONVERSATION, BUT OTHER THAT THE DISCUSSION SHOULD BE TAKING PLACE HERE.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I SAY WE PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
I MEAN, I DON'T SEE WHY WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE, WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME ON SATURDAY IS TWO 15.
I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOO MANY THINGS ON FUTURE AGENDAS.
WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
NOW THIS SATURDAY ENDS AT TWO 45.
THIS IS ALL VIDEO CONFERENCING.
THIS IS A LONG CAR WORK SESSION.
MR. CAMPBELL, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING IF YOU, IF SOMETHING WAS WRONG OR THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE TONE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED LONG TIME AGO? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WAS CONCERNED ABOUT IF SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS HAD A CONCERN THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT IT UP.
WHAT THEY, MR. CAMPBELL, THAT'S NOT TRUE THAT WE WERE TOLD TOO, THAT WE, WITHOUT THAT, THAT IT WOULD NEED TO GO TO ONTO THE NEXT, ONTO THE NEXT ONE ON THE NEXT.
BUT WE, WE WILL, WE WOULD NEED TO BRING IT UP BEFORE, BEFORE THE NEXT ACTUAL, UM, OCTOBER.
YEAH, BUT YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T CHANGE THE TOOL EVERY TIME YOU DO AN EVALUATION.
THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE EMPLOYEE.
SHE'S, SHE'S GOT TO KNOW IN ADVANCE ONCE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE HAVING.
WHEN WE TALK WITH HAPPY, PLEASE MAKE A MOTION OR, OR WE'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HADN'T MADE.
WELL, ACTUALLY MY I'M SURE I'M ASKING YOU, I'M ASKING YOU, WHY DO YOU WANT A MOTION TO BE MADE? AND WE HAVEN'T MADE A MOTION FOR ANYTHING, UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE, BECAUSE WE DON'T SEEM TO BE IN AGREEMENT.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT WE REEVALUATE THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANTS TOOL ON, ON, ON SATURDAY AFTER TWO FIVE AT TWO 45.
AND THAT WAS THE LAST THING ON THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'M SORRY, WHAT DID YOU SAY? THERE'S NO SECOND.
SO THE MOTION I SAID, I SAID THAT WAS A GOOD WAY.
HOW TO BRING, THAT WAS A GOOD WAY.
THAT'S WHAT I SAID, MR. SMITH.
IT WAS SOMETHING WE DIDN'T ALL AGREE ON.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN DO THE EVALUATION IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHY I DID NOT DO THE EVALUATION BECAUSE I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE TOOL.
THAT'S WHY SHE SAID SHE WENT TO, SINCE YOU WENT ON.
SO SHE WENT INTO DETAIL AND THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO SEND THAT.
I DIDN'T DO IT WAS OUT OF ORDER TOO.
I THINK WE'VE GOT THE AGENDA SET.
WELL, I GUESS WE NEED TO FIRST SET OUR NEXT AGENDA SETTING.
YOUR NEXT AGENDA SETTING IS NOT, UNLESS YOU CHANGE IT.
YOUR NEXT AGENDA SETTING WOULD BE ON THE 20.
THE 10TH FOR THE 18TH FOR THE 18TH BOARD MEETING.
WHICH SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S MONDAY THE 10TH AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU, WILLIAM AND KATHY.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS FOR THE AGENDA OF THE WORK SESSION.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? THE MOTION IS TO ADJOURN.
WOULD YOU SECOND THE MOTION? OH YEAH.
EVERYBODY MEETING IS COMPLETED.