Aug 17, 2020 Public Facilities Committee

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AND IF YOU WOULD. >> ALL RIDES WITH ME IN NEW YORK FALL AND I'LL DO THE

[1. CALL TO ORDER 2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU, SARAH. >> I WOULD ASK THAT ALL THE

[3. [PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT]]

PUBLIC NOTIFICATION HAS BEEN DONE OR SENT OUT ETC. ETC.. >> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. AND THE I WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

FORMER SOMERVILLE SOMERVILLE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION AT THIS TIME WE'LL PROVE THE THE AGENDA.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? AND SIR, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TELL ME THERE IS ANYBODY OBJECTING BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE WHAT JOE AND ALICE. OKAY.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - June 15, 2020]

JUNE 15TH 2020 2020. >> IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES?

I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> THIS IS SHARED PAST SUMMER. OKAY.

MY CHAIR. AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY CHRIS .

OKAY. CHRIS GOTCHA. OKAY.

WE APPROVED THE MINUTES WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTION AT THIS

TIME? >> SEE NONE. THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED

[6. CONSIDERATION OF A CONTRACT AWARD TO CUMMINS SALES AND SERVICE, A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT VENDOR FROM SOURCEWELL FOR A REPLACEMENT 250 KW CUMMINS GENERATOR FROM TOTALING $157,511.37]

IS THAT DAVE? ARE YOU TAKING IT? >> YES, SIR.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I HOPE EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME CLEARLY AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAST COMMUNICATION ISSUE. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION OF PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN WORKED ON WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES MANAGEMENT MARK ROSEWALL AND MYSELF.

WE LOOKED EVERYWHERE IN NEED REPLACING OUR MERCY GENERATOR, THE DETENTION CENTER IS A 20 50

KW GENERATOR. >> WE'RE RECOMMENDING YOU USE THE NATIONAL CAPTIVE CONTRACT WITH SOURCE. WELL THEY GIVE US A CONSIDERABLE MANUFACTURER'S PRICE IN BUYING AND INSTALLING THE ACTUAL GENERATOR. TOTAL COST IS ONE HUNDRED FIFTY SEVEN POINT ELEVEN DOLLARS AND THIRTY SEVEN CENTS SUBS TO YOUR QUESTIONS MARK IS ON BOARD IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM BUT WE LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT.

SHE'S ME IN HIS CONTRACT AWARD AND BRING IT FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL SINCE IT'S OVER A

HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. >> OKAY. >> IS THERE ANY QUESTION RIGHT

NOW FOR YOU THE DAY YOU WILL MARK? >> I ASSUME THAT THIS HAS BEEN BUDGETED FOR IT SAYS COMING OUT OF THIS SPECIALIZED CAPITAL EQUIPMENT ACCOUNT.

>> THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. WE ARE BASICALLY GETTING THE MONEY FROM THE ROLLOVER BE

AWARDED UNTIL AFTER YOUR FINAL APPROVAL THREE READINGS. >> SO WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT ON THAT. SO A VERY GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU.

>> OH, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE?

>> I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. THIS IS CHAIR CASTLEMAN OKATIE CHAIR.

>> APPRECIATE THAT. SECOND I WILL SECOND I WAS A SECOND AT ANY THERE IN THE CONCERNS AT THIS TIME AS WE MOVE FORWARD IF NOT I'LL ASK THAT WE APPROVE THIS

CONSIDERATION. >> FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE WERE ELEVEN THOUSAND THIRTY SEVEN CENTS TO THE CUMMINGS SALES AND SERVICE. IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION SAYING NONE. IT IS APPROVED. THANK YOU.

[7. REQUEST FOR PRIVATE ROAD ACCEPTANCE OF A PORTION OF JOHNSON LANDING ROAD INTO COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM]

WANTS TO COME INTO THE COUNTY. >> YES SIR. COUNCILMAN GLORIOUS DAY.

WELL HOW MUCH I CAN TAKE THIS ITEM. OK.

THANK YOU SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A PRIVATE

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JOHNSON LANDING ROAD IS BRICKYARD POINT ROAD LADY'S ISLAND.

IT WAS A PORTION OF THE JOHNSON LANDING ROAD WAS PAVED IN 2018. THE LAST SECTION APPROXIMATELY A THOUSAND FEET WAS NOT PAVED COULD NOT OBTAIN THE RIGHT AWAY AT THAT TIME.

SO IT WAS TURNED OVER BACK TO A PRIVATE ROAD AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE AS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COUNTY POLICY ACCEPTANCE PRIVATE ROADS A ROAD ACCEPTANCE APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND HAS BEEN SIGNED BY 100 PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE'RE BRINGING IT TO PUBLIC FACILITIES FOR CONSIDERATION INTO ACCEPTANCE INTO THE COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM.

>> OKATIE. ANY QUESTION OF MR. WILLIAM? YES, I DO.

THIS IS THE CHAIRMAN THE DAY WHEN THIS GOES ON THE COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM WILL IT THEN BE PUT

IN THE QUEUE TO BE PAVED SINCE THE OTHER SECTION WAS PAVED? >> YES.

VERY GOOD POINT. CURRENTLY IT'S A DIRT ROAD. SO INITIALLY IT WILL JUST BE A DIRT ROAD THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED. BUT SINCE THING IS ABOUT A MILE MILE AND A HALF OF JOHNSON LANDING ROAD WAS PAVED. IT WILL BE PUT BACK INTO THE QUEUE SO THE REMAINING THOUSAND FEET WILL BE PAVED. INITIALLY IT WILL JUST BE A

DIRT ROAD THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED. >> THANK YOU.

OKATIE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.

TRUE. GO AHEAD. A QUICK QUESTION, DAVE.

WHEN WE EXIT ROADS LIKE THIS AND MAYBE THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS ROAD OR MAYBE NOT.

BUT DO WE INSPECT THE ROADS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, TAKING IN A A PROBLEM OR PROBLEMS BEFORE THEY'RE CORRECTED? HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH. THE ROAD IS AN I'LL SAY FAIR TO POOR CONDITION CURRENTLY.

BUT YOU KNOW, AS PART POLICY THEY ARE MAKING THE APPLICATION TO ACCEPT THE ROAD.

THERE IS NO PROVISION THAT IT HAS TO BE BROUGHT UP TO A CERTAIN STANDARD BUT IT IS A DIRT ROAD. I'LL JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT TO GREAT IT AND I THINK WE CAN BRING IT UP TO STANDARDS PRETTY QUICKLY IF IF IT WAS A PAVED ROAD FOR EXAMPLE THAT WAS IN VERY, VERY POOR CONDITION THAT WOULD REQUIRE CONSIDERABLE EXPENSE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A FACTOR. BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS IS DIRT ROAD, I THINK WE CAN BRING IT BACK INTO SHAPE PRETTY QUICKLY WITHOUT ANY MAJOR

EXPENSE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> MAKE A COMMENT HERE.

>> A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THEM. I'M SURE. BUT I TEACH JOHNSON LANDING ROAD GETTING JOHNSON LANDING ROAD PAVED WAS A HERCULEAN TASK .

IT TOOK YEARS TO GET ALL THE FOLKS THAT WERE ON THAT ROAD TO AGREE AND EVEN SOME OF THEM DID. THERE WAS SOME CONDEMNATION INVOLVED.

FINALLY GET IT DONE ANYWAY. THERE WERE SOME FOLKS AT THE END OF THE ROAD AND JOHNSON ROAD. I THINK IT WAS ONE HOLDOUT OR MAYBE TWO WHO DIDN'T WHO JUST REFUSED TO SIGN REFUSE TO ALLOW US TO PAVE THE ROAD AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.

I SAY WE ENGINEERING BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR SO LONG THAT WE JUST DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND PAVE IT UP TO THAT POINT BECAUSE THE FOLKS ON THE FIRST MILE AND A HALF HAD BEEN BEEN CRYING TO GET THAT THING PAVED FOREVER. AND WE'D WORK.

WE'VE WORKED ON IT. WE HAD THE MONEY. IT WAS JUST A QUESTION OF GETTING PERMISSION. SO IT WAS PAVED UP TO THE POINT THAT WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS DIRT WHICH IS ASKING TO BECOME PART OF THE SYSTEM FOR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES.

WHAT WE DID AND WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT THERE IS A SPUR ROAD OFF OF JOHNSON LANDING WHICH HAS RESIDENTS ON IT WHICH DEPENDS ON THAT LITTLE PIECE JOHNSON LANDING TO GET INTO THEIR SPUR ROAD WHICH IS WHERE THEY LIVE AND THOSE FOLKS WERE NOT NOTIFIED WHEN THE WHEN THE REQUEST WENT FOR PERMISSION TO RIDE AWAY AND THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AFTER THE FACT.

TECHNICALLY THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED SO THAT THE COUNTY DID NOTHING WRONG.

IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE COMING FORWARD PRIMARILY NOW AND SAY HEY, WAIT A SECOND, YOU DIDN'T NOTIFY US AND WE'VE GOT A SPUR ROAD OFF OF THERE AND SO IT AFFECTS US VERY MUCH SINCE THE ROAD IS NOT IN THAT LITTLE SECTION IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED AT ALL.

ANYWAY, IT WOULDN'T IT WOULD HAVE EASILY BEEN INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT WHEN WE PAID JOHNSON DOWN THE LANDING ROAD BUT WE JUST COULDN'T GET PERMISSION FROM THAT LAST PERSON DOWN THERE. SO NOW THAT PERSON I GUESS IS IT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT PROPERTIES CHANGED HANDS OR WHETHER THAT PERSON HAD SECOND THOUGHTS BUT THAT PERSON IS NOW ON BOARD TO GO AHEAD AND PAVE IT AND THE FOLKS WHO WERE LIVING ON THAT LITTLE SPUR ROAD OR COURSE AS ANXIOUS OR MORE ANXIOUS THAN EVERYBODY GET TO THING A SOMERVILLE HAS. YES. WHO'S WHO'S SPEAKING?

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>> CHRIS. CHRIS, GO AHEAD. I'M MR. GO HOME IS THIS ROAD

MEET THE CDC CTC STANDARDS. >> CITY STATE STANDARDS FOR TRANSPORTATION.

RIGHT. AS FAR AS CONSIDERATION TO PAVED ROAD OR CONSIDERATION THAT COME INTO THE SYSTEM. LET I CHECK ON THAT. I HAVE NOT CHECKED THE COMPLIANCE OF CTC STANDARDS. WE INSPECTED THE ROAD FOR OUR STANDARDS FOR MAINTENANCE.

I AM NOT AWARE OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR CTC SO I'LL CHECK INTO THAT FOR YOU.

BE WITH ANY CONSULTED AS FAR AS BRINGING THIS ROUTE INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM.

WE JUST IF IT WAS INSPECTED BY A COUNTY COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS AGAIN KELLY BRIAN SINCE YOU OWN

IT YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO CHRIS'S QUESTION IF YOU CAN. >> CAN'T HEAR YOU ANYWAY.

>> K. BRIAN. >> BRIAN I THINK YOU MUTE.

>> OKAY. I CAN'T HEAR BRIAN SO WHY DON'T WE ALL MOVE ON? ANY OTHER QUESTION OF DAVE AND BRIAN? HURRY UP BECAUSE YOU CHEER THIS

COMMITTEE. >> UH P I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO BRING FORWARD THE REQUEST TO ACCEPT THIS PORTION OF JOHNSON LANDING INTO THE COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM IS THERE THE SECOND SECOND THAT'S BEEN PROPERLY IN MOTION AND SECONDED THAT WE ACCEPT THE JOHNSON?

>> THIS THE LATTER PART OF THE JOHNSON ROAD INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM.

IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION I WILL MOVE THIS. WE APPROVE THIS MOTION.

ARE THERE ANY OBJECTION? OUR. MR. CHAIRMAN.

SUBJECT TO SUBJECTIVE INPUT FROM THE CTC. OK, SO AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL TO SEE IF I REMEMBER WHO MADE THE MOTION.

JOE, YOU'VE MADE THE MOTION. DO YOU APPROVE? I SAY YES.

K. MR. SOMERVILLE. YES.

OKAY. >> MR. FLEMING, I CAN'T SEE YOU.

ARE YOU YES OR NO? OKAY. MR. CORBETT, I CAME TO SEE ME HERE. I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. YES, MR. DAWSON.

YES. MR. RODMAN? YES, SIR.

>> MISS HOWARD? YES. MR. LAWSON OR BOSTON? YES. AND WHO DO I LET MY MRS. YES GO?

AND YOURSELF. >> WHY AM I MISSING? MR. MCKELLEN AND YOURSELF.

>> OKAY. MR. MCKELLEN. YES.

YES. OKATIE IN THE CHAIR. VOTE YES.

MAKING IT WAS THAT 10 WON. >> IF WE COULD MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WOULD REMOVE MY VOTE I DID

NOT VOTE ON THIS MATTER. >> OKAY. WITH ONE ABSTENTION AT THIS TIME. SO IT PASSES. NINE ONE ONE.

BRIAN, ARE YOU READY? BUY IN NEW YORK I BELIEVE I AM YOUR GUY.

[8. CONSIDERATION OF A CONTRACT AWARD TO J. BRAGG CONSULTING FOR THE AMOUNT OF $1,647,877.16 WITH A 20% CONTINGENCY OF $329,575.43 TOTALING $1,977,452]

>> ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. YES. YEAH.

OH THANKS. THIS MATTERS. ARE YOU SURE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YORK, I APPRECIATE STEP IN INFORMING MATTERED.

NUMBER EIGHT IS CONSIDERATION OF A CONTRACT AWARDED JAY BRAGG CONSULTING WITH A PERCENT CONTINGENCY TOTALING THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE THOUSAND.

OR EXCUSE ME ONE MILLION NINE HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY TO DATE.

WELL I IMAGINE IT'S I THINK DANGER IF DANGER IS ON A YOUNGER SON.

>> I'LL BE SPEAKING ON THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION. >> GO AHEAD.

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>> ALL RIGHT. SO IN EARLY MARCH BEFORE COUNTY PUBLISHES SOLICITATION TO SEE CAPABLE FIRMS TO PROVIDE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FOR TWENTY EIGHTY ONE CENT SALES RECOGNITION OF THE AWARD WITHIN AN INTERNAL ESTIMATE USING SC DLC STANDARD FOR THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT PORTION UNDER THE SOLICITATION WHICH GRANT US UP TO ABOUT TWO POINT THIRTY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS TO OUR FUNDERS PROVIDE PROPOSALS AND IN LATE MAY BE INTERVIEWED AND SCORED EACH OF THOSE BOUNDARIES ALSO GAVE A BRAND NAME, RANK AND FILE AND DEEMED THE MOST QUALIFIED FOR THE CONTRACT, SAID JAY BRAGG. CONSULTING PROVIDING A FEE OF ONE MILLION SIX HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN DOLLARS AND SIXTEEN CENTS WITH THE BUILT IN CONTINGENCY THAT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS TO ONE MILLION NINE HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR MAGIC SEVENTY SEVEN POINT FIFTY TWO DOLLARS AND WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS PROJECT THROUGH OUR TWENTY EIGHTEEN ONE CENT

SALES TAX PROGRAM. >> WITH THIS BEING SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT THE WAR TO JAY BRAGG IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION SIX HUNDRED FORTY SEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN DOLLARS AND SIXTEEN CENTS.

THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN OVERALL PROJECT BUDGET OF 1 MILLION NINE HUNDRED SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY TWO DOLLARS OK. COMMITTEE HOW DO WE HOW DO WE VOTE ON THIS? IS THERE ANYBODY YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. BRYAN, THIS IS CHAIR PASHMAN.

GO AHEAD. THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE CONSULTING ENGINEERS.

ARE THERE SPECIFIC PROJECTS OUT THERE ALREADY? >> YES, SIR.

SO WITH THIS THEY WOULD IDEALLY BE COMING ON AND DOING PROGRAM MANAGEMENT FOR OUR LEGS OUT IN QUARTER PROJECTS IS NINE PROJECTS AS WELL AS THE TWENTY FOUR PATHWAYS THAT WE HAVE.

THE US TO 78 PROJECT IS BEING MANAGED BY BLT. >> THANK YOU.

THEN I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.

>> THANKS. IS THERE A SECOND TO SECOND THAT MOTION PLEASE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HOWARD. I ASSUME THAT WITHOUT OBJECTION TO BE ACCEPTED WITHOUT EITHER. I HAVE A QUESTION. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. GO. I'M MR. KING.

IT WAS VERY EMOTIONAL FOR MR. GLOVER. I MY END UP RIGHT NOW.

THAT WAS MIKE. >> OH. HOW DID MIKE CARRY YOU? GO AHEAD. MY BUDDY MISS MR. TERENCE REED BIG BUT IN A LEASE IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT I HAVE I DON'T SEE THE INFORMATION OF IT OF ANY OF THE OTHER BIDDERS.

>> DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION DANGER? >> YES, SIR, WE DO.

I THINK IT'S ON SCREEN. COULD WE HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR THE ESTIMATE? SO THIS DOES SHOW THE RANK ORDER BEFORE FIRMS THAT DID PROVIDE.

I GOT THAT PART BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW WHAT THEIR BID WAS AND WHO THEY ARE.

>> IN THIS CASE THIS WAS ACTUALLY A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

>> SO THERE WAS THEN A DATE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT QUALIFICATION.

ONCE WE FOUND THE HIGHEST RANKED FIRM WHEN HE WORKED WITH THEM TO NEGOTIATE A FEE.

>> OK, SO YOU DID IT OR IF YOU AND WAS THIS WAS WAS ARISTIDE PUBLICLY SOLICITED OR ONLY TO THE COMPANY THAT STAFF BILL WAS ? I USED OK.

YES. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ON MARCH 6 KEY WAS PUBLISHED SOLICITATION WELL SOLICITING CAPABLE FIRMS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I WAS GOING TO READ SOMETHING FROM SEPARATE PROVIDERS. WHAT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS OR CREDENTIALS TO POTENTIALLY GO AFTER THE CONTRACTING MANAGEMENT AND PROGRAM MANAGEMENT IN CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING INSPECTION SERVICES FOR THIS GROUP INTERESTED FIRMS WHO WANTED TO GO AFTER THIS ASPECT OF OUR WANTS AND SELL SETS PROGRAM SUBMITTED THEIR PROPOSALS AND YOU SEE THERE WAS FOUR CHANNELS RIGHT? YES SIR.

HAVE WE AS COUNSEL SEEING WHO THOSE COMPANIES ARE? >> I BELIEVE THAT'S REALLY UP ON THREE. I THINK THAT IN A BACKGROUND INFORMATION JUST TO INCLUDE

RIGHT THERE IN THE MEMO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS TODAY, THOMAS. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE MEMO THAT

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BEFORE ASKING THAT QUESTION, IF I COULD ASK EVERYBODY TO LOOK PLEASE LOOK AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE MUTED. I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK, A LOT OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF FEEDBACK AND SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU MUTED. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO CHRIS . YOU HAD A QUESTION. THANK YOU, SIR.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE THE FIRST ONE ON COUNCILMAN COVER. I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE SCORES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN FRONT OF US. WHAT WERE THE CRITERIA THAT COMPRISE THOSE SCORES? THE SCORES WERE BASED UPON RELEVANT PROJECTS THE PROJECT TEAMS PUT TOGETHER PUT BEFORE US THE RESUMES OF THOSE WHO WOULD BE ON THE TEAM.

I EXPERIENCED HIM IN SIMILAR WORK AS WELL AS JUST THE INTERVIEW ITSELF TO THAT POINT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS MEETING WAS HELD ON JUNE 30TH AND ON MAY 26 AND IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY WE HAD ALREADY SELECTED A CONTRACT OR SO WITHOUT HAVING THE SCOPE TO FIND KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO HOW WE COULD ADEQUATELY ASCERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT A PARTICULAR

FIRM BEST PATH OK. >> YES YOU CAN ON THIS QUESTION I IMAGINE DAVE YES SIR.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, THE THE THE SCOPE AND THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RFP WAS PUBLISHED IN THE ACTUAL ADVERTISER MEANT THE WAY THEY ARE THIS IS RFP.

THE WAY IT BASICALLY WORKS IS THEY'RE SELECTED BASED ON THEIR CRITERIA THAT WAS PUBLISHED.

THERE'S A THANK OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER EXPLAIN THOSE TO CERTAIN CERTAIN AREAS AND ONCE THE COMMITTEE DOES THEIR FUND AND FINAL RANKING AFTER THE INTERVIEW THAT'S THEY SELECT THE THE HIGHEST RANK FIRM AND NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. SO THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE PROPER PROCEDURES FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF. Q COUNT ONE MORE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS SOLELY FOR THE LABOR OF TWO PEOPLE SO IT'S TWO MILLION BUCKS FOR PEOPLE'S LABOR. FOR I THINK FOUR YEARS BETWEEN CORRECTLY.

WHAT IS THERE A REASON WHY WE HIRE INTERNALLY AT A LOWER COST TO THE TAXPAYER? I BELIEVE IT'S FOUR AND I THINK THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER PROBABLY CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

BUT AS FOR INSPECTIONS AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT MANY FACILITIES AND MANY ROAD PROJECTS AND DO THE INSPECTIONS AND THEN REPLY WITH REPORTS THAT'S COVERED IN THE SCOPE. BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE ENGINEERING KIND OF COVER THAT AREA. THIS THIS IS GERARD FOR THIS I'M THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR ENGINEERING. I WAS NOT PART OF THIS PROCESS. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ONGOING BEFORE I WAS INVOLVED. HOWEVER, WE DID HAVE AN ADVERTISED POSITION OR A SALES TAX MANAGER THAT HAS NOT BEEN FILLED. HOWEVER, THIS IS A A CONSULTANT PROJECT THAT CAN BE DONE IN-HOUSE IF WE HAD THE STAFF. BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON THAT THAT COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES REACH OUT AND HAVE EXTRA SAUCE SUCH AS THIS BASICALLY.

JAY BRAGG WOULD BE ACTING AS AN EXTENSION STAFF WITH COORDINATION WITH BOTH MYSELF AND MISS JACKSON AS WE MANAGE THE SALES TAX PROCESS. QUESTION I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY MY MY QUESTION BUT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS E-MAIL FROM THERE IN TO DAVE GO AHEAD AND IT READS.

NOT ONE. I'M GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK. >> IF YOU COULD PLEASE MAKE

SURE YOU MUTE IT OTHER THAN CHRIS BE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THE EMAIL ON JULY 10TH OUTLINES THAT THERE'S GONNA BE TWO CONSULTANTS WORKING ON BASICALLY PART TIME EITHER 20 HOURS OR 10 HOURS FOR THE PRINCIPAL OR WE IN 30 HOURS OR I GUESS PROBABLY OUR JOB IS 20 25 HOURS FOR THE SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER PER WEEK AND IT'S FOUR YEARS AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND TWO MILLION BUCKS. WHY NOT JUST HIRE TWO PEOPLE TO

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YES, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. I THINK IN A LARGE SCALE PROJECT LIKE THIS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE NEGOTIATING WITH INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS OR RIGHT AWAY IS GOING TO TAKE PROMPTLY. I SAW IN THE BUDGET FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS THIS IS SOMETHING THE O IS GOING TO TYPE COULD TAKE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS UNREASONABLE. IT WILL SUPPLEMENT WHAT OUR OWN PEOPLE WOULD DO IN SUCH AS PUBLIC INFORMATION WHICH DON'T WE HAVE A LARGE STAFF AND IT WOULD ALSO SUPPLEMENT OUR OWN STAFF THAT GETS EASEMENTS. SO YOU KNOW, AS A YES FOR YEARS. BUT IT'S REALLY IN THE LONG RUN IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT ALL.

IT MAY NOT TAKE FOUR YEARS BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED OUTSIDE STAFF TO HELP WITH THIS.

THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT. WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING SIDEWALKS ,INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND LIGHTING, I PERSONALLY THINK THIS IS REASONABLE AND IT WON'T BE JUST TOO.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AND OTHER PEOPLE TO HELP THEM. THE FIRM DOWN.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT THEY THEY'LL BE BAILING.

THEY'LL SIMPLY BE SUBMITTING BILLS FOR THIS AMOUNT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WITH SOMEBODY JUSTIFYING EACH EXPENSE AND COORDINATING MAKING SURE THAT THOSE HOURS

WERE LOGGED. >> THAT'S THAT'S ALL MY POINT IS.

MR. ROBESON, WE DID POST THIS POSITION AS JERRY MENTIONED FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE DID NOT. WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL AT ALL IN RECRUITING SOMEONE TO DO THIS. BUT I DO THINK WE WOULD NEED OUTSIDE HELP TO DO IT.

I WE COULD DO IT IN-HOUSE. MR. CHAIRMAN. STU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SEE MY HAND. GO AHEAD, STU. YEAH, I THINK SCOTT WHERE

TOUCHED ON IT. >> THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD FOR THE HOURS IT'S WILL BE LESS HOURS. THERE'LL BE LESS OF THIS. WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS WHETHER THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF OUTSIDE SERVICES INSPECTIONS AND YOU KNOW THAT TYPE THING WHICH WOULD PROBABLY HAPPEN HERE. SO IT'S PROBABLY JUSTIFIED.

BUT TO CHRIS'S POINT IT DOES ON THE SURFACE SEEM LIKE AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY PARTICULARLY SINCE IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK IS REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED IN TWO YEARS.

SO MY SENSE IS THAT THIS IS GOOD TO GO BUT IT MIGHT BE USEFUL AS WELL AS THIS COMES FORWARD TO COUNSEL GET A LITTLE BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OTHER COSTS ARE IN THIS OVER AND ABOVE THE TWO PEOPLE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TOO MUCH MONEY JUST THE TWO PEOPLE IF WE WERE PAYING A FLAT FEE BUT WE'RE ONLY PAYING FOR THE AVERAGE BILL.

>> THANKS. LOT. WELL, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION

TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

GO AHEAD. YEAH. QUICK QUESTION AND AGAIN, I CAN'T SEE ANY DOCUMENTS OR IF THE TOTAL PROJECT IS ONE POINT SIX MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT BLOOD. NOW I HEAR WE'RE BILLING OR THEY'RE BILLING BY THE HOUR.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE THE MILLION DOLLARS IS NOT TO EXCEED THAT OR HOW HOW.

HOW IS THAT DECIPHERED? >> THANK YOU. IT'S NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER MYSELF. THANKS. I'D LIKE TO ADD DAVE.

DAVE WILHELM ANSWER THAT OR GERARD FEEL LIKE FÉLIX? >> I CAN I CAN CHIME IN.

ONE THING I THINK THAT WE'RE FORGETTING AND COUNCILMAN HIRSCH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING UP INCLUDED IN THEIR ESTIMATED PRICE. ALSO AS THEIR CONSULTANT FNMA CONSULTANTS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT INSPECTION SERVICES.

SO INCLUDED IN THAT BASE NUMBER OR A LOT MORE RESOURCES THAN JUST THE TWO PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTED FOR BRAGG. AND YES, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT'S THAT'S SHOWN IS A ESTIMATED AMOUNT. IT WILL NOT BE EXCEEDED AS LONG AS THE SCOPE OF WORK IS NOT EXCEEDED. HER SCOPE OF WORK DOESN'T CHANGE AND IT CAN COME IN UNDER THAT. YOU KNOW, AS GERARD SAID, WE'RE GOING TRIED TO DO AS MUCH OF THIS WORK AS WE CAN INTERNALLY. SO THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BILL US FOR THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED AND WE'LL WE WILL BE CHECKING THOSE INVOICES.

SO YOU KNOW, I I BELIEVE THIS IS A HIGH END NOT TO EXCEED. AND I FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE AS LONG AS THE SCOPE DOESN'T CHANGE THAT IT WILL COME IN UNDER THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

>> RIGHT. MIKE BUT CHRIS, THAT'S OKAY. THANKS FOR COMING OUT GREEN.

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>> I APOLOGIZE. >> GO AHEAD. >> WE LOST CHRIS RIGHT NOW.

>> I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IF I COULD. I KNOW IT WAS QUICKLY SAID WHAT THE PROJECTS WERE. COULD WE HAVE A MORE DEFINITIVE EXPLANATION OF THE PROJECTS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME IDEA OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECTS, THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS AND THE DURATION THAT WE THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE? THANK YOU.

I THOUGHT IT WAS FAIRLY WELL SPELLED OUT IN THE IN THE PACKAGE BUT MR. FREY MAKES YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A RUNDOWN QUICK OR ASIA. PROBABLY DAVID JACKSON WOULD

KNOW. >> SURE THING. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE THREE MAIN PROJECT AS A PART OF THE 1 CENT SALES TAX PROGRAM UP TO 70 A LATE FILING CORRIDOR IN THE PATHWAYS PROJECT. THE LIST 278 PRIVATE IS BEING MANAGED BY CBO.

SO THAT'S NOT FACTORED INTO THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT RIGHT HERE.

BUT THE THING IS NOT JUST FOR THE TWO PROJECTS WHICH ARE THE PATHWAYS PROJECT AND THE LIKE JOBS PHOTO PROJECTS, FEELINGS ON ON BOARD. IT'S ACTUALLY PROGRESSIVE NOT ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS WE'LL BE UNDERTAKING AND THE PATHWAYS PROJECT IS COMPRISED OF 24 DIFFERENT PATHWAYS. SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT 33 PROJECTS THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW THAT THAT'LL WORK FOR ME BECAUSE THE PATHWAY

CONSISTED OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROJECTS. >> I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY OR

BUT THAT SPELLS OUT. THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE IT.

GREAT SERVE. SEAN, YOUR LAST QUESTION DID NOT.

OUR COMMENT DID NOT COME THROUGH. ARE YOU READY TO GIVE IT A TRY? YEAH, I AM. I APOLOGIZE. MY INTERNET CUT OUT THERE FOR A SECOND BUT IF I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 38 OF THE PDX DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAVE WHERE IT'S GOT THE PROJECT FEE SUMMARY WE'VE ONLY GOT COLUMNS FOR LABOR DIRECTS SUBS AND THEN THE TOTAL AND THEN THE SUBS IS 0. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT SAYS THAT I THINK IT'S F AN F AND ME THERE'S GONNA BE ABOUT 90 GRAND.

THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE REFLECTED HERE IN THIS LAYOUT OF HOW THESE COSTS ARE ALLOCATED AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING LABOR FOR THE MOST PART.

SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT PERHAPS WE NEED TO GET SOME BETTER DETAIL AS FAR AS WHAT SUBCONTRACTORS COSTS ARE GONNA BE AND IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE INCLUDED HERE WHEN THIS GOES

FOR COUNCIL. >> THANK YOU. I ASSUME THAT WE'LL GET YOU THEN YOU GOT A DAVE? YES. WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE EXPRESS S.A.T. IN THE MEANTIME, DID I HAVE A MOTION SOME OF THIS TEACHER THAT IS MR. RODMAN THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? THIS IS YOUR SECOND.

THANK YOU, YORK. I ASSUME WE WANT TO HAVE A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

>> IS THAT CORRECT? >> THANK YOU. >> YEP.

MR. RODMAN, HOW DO YOU VOTE? >> I VOTE YES. JUST ONE OTHER COMMENT.

THIS IS IN THE RANGE OF 6 TO 7 PERCENT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE GENERALLY PAY FOR THIS KIND OF WORK ON MANAGING A 30 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. SO YES.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER. YES.

THANK YOU, MR. PASSIM AT YES. THANK YOU, MR. SOMERVILLE. YES.

MR. COVERED BY. >> THANK YOU, MR. DAWSON. >> YES.

THANK YOU, MR. HARVEY FAN. NO, THANK YOU. MISS HOWARD.

>> MISS HOWARD, WE DIDN'T HEAR . >> YES.

THANK YOU, MR. LAWSON, ARE YOU HERE? YES.

BLOSSOM? YES. THANK YOU.

DID YOU MOVE THAT LIST UP JUST A LITTLE BIT? I ASSUME IT'S MR. MACALLAN NEXT. YES, YES. THANK YOU, DEREK.

YOU MOVE THE LIST UP JUST A LITTLE BIT. SEE WHO WE'VE LEFT THAT OTHER THAN YOU. THAT'S IT AND IT WON'T GO ANY HIGHER.

SORRY. WELL, THAT'S OK. >> THAT'S OK.

THANK YOU. I'LL VOTE YES. SO WE'LL MOVE IT FORWARD.

IT LOOKS LIKE TWO, FOUR, SIX, SEVEN NINE TEN TO ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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>> DOES ANYBODY KNOW ON STAFF ACTUALLY, YES, SIR. THIS SHOULD BE THE NEXT COUNCIL

MEETING. OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THE FIRST ONE IN SEPTEMBER.

[9. CONSIDERATION OF A CONTRACT AWARD TO APAC FOR THE AMOUNT OF $412,259.20 WITH A 20% CONTINGENCY OF $82,451.80 TOTALING $494,711]

WITH THE CONTINGENCY FOR NINETY FOUR SEVEN ELEVEN. >> WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THAT UP

? >> THIS IS DAVID JACKSON. I'LL BE COVERING THIS ONE AS WELL. THANK YOU DAVID. GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT. >> SO ON JUNE 10TH 2020 WE PUBLISHED A SOLICITATION FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES OR TURN LANE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION POINT ROAD AND THE ALLEN PARKWAY. PRIOR TO THIS WE RECEIVED AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FROM OUR DESIGN ENGINEER. INDEED THEY ESTIMATE THEY ESTIMATE THAT THIS PROJECT WITH THE CONTINGENCY WOULD COST ABOUT SIX HUNDRED THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS ON JULY SIMPLY RECEIVED SIX BIDS WITH THE LOWEST BIDDER COME IN AND BUY A PACK.

WE DETERMINED THAT THEY WOULD BE THE MOST RESPONSIVE AND LOWEST COST BIDDER.

THEY PROVIDED A BIT OF FOUR THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED TWELVE THOUSAND TWO FIFTY NINE DOLLARS AND TWENTY CENTS WITH A 20 PERCENT CONTINGENCY BUILT IN THE TOTAL PROJECT POSSIBLY WORTH FOUR HUNDRED NINETY FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED ELEVEN DOLLARS.

ONCE AGAIN THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE PAID THROUGH THE 2018 1 CENT SALES TAX PROGRAM. WE DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS THE FIRST OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE READY FOR CONSTRUCTION AND WITH THIS WE RECOMMEND THAT APPROVAL OF THIS CONTRACT AWARD TO A PACK OF LANSING IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE HUNDRED TWELVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED FIFTY NINE DOLLARS AND TWENTY CENTS. AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OVERALL PROJECT BUDGET OF FOUR HUNDRED NINETY FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN ELEVEN DOLLARS.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHY DOES THE BACKGROUND DATA LOOK DIFFERENT THAN THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE APPROVING THE BACKGROUND REFLECTS THE

ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE. >> SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO NARROW DOWN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE BEGINNING. THANK YOU. SO IN REALITY WE'RE COMING IN A LOT LOWER THAN WHAT THEY ESTIMATED. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> YES.

THIS IS CHAIR OF PARAMOUNT. WE JUST APPROVED THE CONSULTING SERVICES AS PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECTS. IS THIS IS IS THIS ONE THE PROJECTS THAT GREG WOULD ALSO BE REVIEWING? YES, SIR. IT IS.

THANK THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >> CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE?

>> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AWARDING OF THE CONTRACT TO A PAC AND THE TOTAL

AMOUNT OF FOUR NINETY FOUR 711 . >> THANK YOU.

IS THERE A SECOND DOCTOR DR. YOUR GLOVER IS THE SECOND I ASSUME THIS IS WITHOUT

OBJECTION. >> ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO FORWARDING THIS TO COUNTY

COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU. >> THIS MATTER IS FORWARDED TO

[10. REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MOTOROLA COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA]

COMMUNICATIONS AMERICA SHARE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THAT RIGHT? MR. CHAIRMAN, IS DAVE THOMAS.

WE JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS THE FACILITY THAT WE USED TO HAVE SAVANNAH COMMUNICATION IN THEY WERE THE COMPANY THAT PUT IN

ALL OUR MSR SHERIFF OFFICE RADIOS AND LIGHTING SYSTEMS. >> THEY GOT BOUGHT OUT A MOTOROLA. MOTOROLA OFFERS ALSO A LOT OF STATE CONTRACT PRICING AT THE TIME I THINK BACK WHEN I GOT HERE IN 2000 SEVEN WE WERE CHARGING A DOLLAR FOR THE LEASE FOR THAT BUILDING. IT'S LIKE A SUPPLY ROOM SLASH GARAGE WHERE THEY CAN USE IT TO UPDATE OUR AMBULANCES AND OUR SHARED VEHICLES. JUST THEN WE DECIDED WE HAVE A NEW SAVANNAH COMPANY MOTOROLA NOW AS A NEW OCCUPANT DAUGHTER. WAS IT REALLY A GOOD IDEA FOR THAT PROJECT TO BE AT HOME? SO I THINK REALLY IT'S A DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR AND MYSELF AND MY

ROSEN ALL RIGHT. >> GUESS I'M STILL GETTING A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND EVERYBODY MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPUTERS ON MUTE. THANK YOU.

THAT SOUNDS A LOT BETTER AND WE BASICALLY NEGOTIATED A LEASE WITH MOTOROLA FOR 17 22 PER

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MONTH. >> THAT'S AROUND 21 K. I THINK THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT WHAT THEY WERE BASICALLY GETTING FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OF THAT SIZE.

MARK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ANY ADDITIONS FOR THAT? MARK ROSENBAUM?

>> NO, I DON'T THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP. WE WERE TRYING TO SET THAT UP TO WHERE WE THIS WAS GONNA COST RATHER INCORPORATING IT INTO THE SERVICE CONTRACT.

>> THANK YOU, MARK. >> IS THERE ARE THERE ANY THING I NEED THAT WE NEED TO THANK

YOU, BRIAN. >> THIS IS TO GO. >> THIS IS STEP.

GO AHEAD. OH, OKAY. MOUNTAIN WE HAVE WE DO HAVE TO TAKE ANYTHING FROM RELEASING COUNTY PROPERTY AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND RUN IT THROUGH THE ORDINANCE PROCESS AND WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO RUN THIS THROUGH AN GRIEF. WE READ THAT IS CORRECT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IN FULL OK, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO STICK AROUND?

>> WILL JUST DRAW IT ASK OR DO YOU. >> IS THERE A SEC? YES, I WILL MAKE THE SECOND HALF THE MEN ARE WITHOUT OBJECTION THIS WE MOVE FORWARD THE COUNTY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION DURING THE ORDINANCE PROCESS.

>> IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? THANK YOU. THERE BEING NO OBJECTION TO THIS MOVE FORWARD THE COUNTY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OR APPROVAL MOVING ON TO ITEM

[11. SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING ENTERPRISE FUND FEE STUDY/ DECAL SYSTEM AND UPDATE]

CONSULTANTS TO COMPLETE A STUDY FOR US. >> THEY ARE CALCULATING COST TO COMPLETELY FUND SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING DEPARTMENT. WE'VE SEEN A DRAFT OF THEIR REPORT. WE'VE MADE COMMENTS WE'RE EXPECTING YET THEIR FINAL REPORT NEXT WEEK. ONE OF THE POINT OUT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY MADE AND WE'RE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH IS TO REMOVE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING FROM THE IMPACT FEE. AS YOU KNOW, TISCHLER BASE IS ALSO DOING THE IMPACT STUDY FOR THE COUNTY. AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO DUPLICATE EFFORTS OR DOUBLE DIPPING, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THE ENTERPRISE FUND FEE STRUCTURE.

WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S COMPLETED WE'LL COMPLETELY FUND THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT AND WE WILL NOT HAVE THE NEED TO HAVE AN IMPACT FEE FOR SOLID WASTE. SO THE STUDY IS GOING TO PRESENT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS. ONE IS A SINGLE FEEDER AS OUR SINGLE FEE FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND A SECOND OPTION FOR A TWO TIERED PRICING STRUCTURE WHICH WILL HAVE A LOWER PRICE FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITHIN MUNICIPALITIES AND THERE. AND THE THEORY IS SINCE THE COUNTIES HAVE CURBSIDE COLLECTION THEIR RESIDENTS DON'T USE CAN BE IN CENTER SO WE CAN PULL THE CONVENIENCE AND OUR COST COMPONENT OUT OF THAT .

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COMPLICATING THIS OBVIOUSLY IS TOWN OF HILTON THAT IRELAND DOES NOT HAVE THE MANDATORY CURBSIDE. SO WHERE THAT'S WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS THERE. BUT IN EITHER CASE WITH EITHER OPTION WE'LL BE ABLE TO FULLY FUND ALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING DEPARTMENT. AND OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE FINAL REPORT TO THIS COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER. AND THEN REACH OUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH REACH OUT TO MR. PALADIN WITH A FINAL DETERMINATION FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO PUBLIC

FACILITIES AND COUNTY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER. >> THANK YOU.

AREN'T THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM? THE QUESTION. THIS IS CHAIR PASHMAN DAVE, YOU SAID ALL RIGHT.

NO TALKING TALKING TO THE MUNICIPALITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE CURBSIDE PICKUP PICKUP IN THE ON INCORPORATED SECTIONS. THERE ARE A VARIETY OF COMMUNITIES SUCH AS SUN CITY THAT ALSO HAVE CURBSIDE PICKUP. WILL THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE FEE STRUCTURE?

>> NO. AND THE REASON IS WE LOOKED AT IT SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS.

THE EVERYBODY IN UNINCORPORATED VIEW COUNTY EXCUSE ME HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE CONVENING CENTERS. WELL, ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW EVERYBODY IN DUVAL COUNTY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY CONVENING CENTERS. IF WE GO WITH A TWO TIERED

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EVERYBODY IN UNINCORPORATED DIFFER COUNTY EVEN IF THEY HAVE CURBSIDE COLLECTION.

THE ASSUMPTION IS THEY STILL MAY USE CONVENIENT CENTERS FOR SOME ITEMS WHETHER IT YARD WASTE OVERSIZED WASTE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT INCLUDING THE COST OF THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS IN THE TOTAL SOLID WASTE COST AND THAT WILL BE GIVEN TO EVERYBODY IN

UNINCORPORATED BUTTE FOR COUNTY . >> THANK YOU.

ALICE HOWARD. AS MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS DO YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OR THE TOWN OF ORAL? DO YOU USE THE CONVENIENCE OR IF YOU'RE DOING A MAJOR YARD CLEANUP? MOVING ETC. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AN OMINOUS PENALTY WE WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THE CONVENIENT CENTER ANYMORE AT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR A LOT OF THAT. THAT IS ONE OPTION AND THE REASON WE'RE EXPLORING THAT BECAUSE THE MUNICIPALITIES APPROACHED US AND REQUESTED THAT THEY SAID YOU KNOW WE PROVIDE CURBSIDE SERVICE SO THEREFORE WE SHOULD BE PAYING THE FULL AMOUNT. I THINK ONCE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND MAKE THE MUNICIPALITIES AWARE THAT THE I DON'T LIKE CONSEQUENCE BUT THE REACTION OF OR THE YOU KNOW, BY NOT HAVING BY PAYING A REDUCED FEE THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE CONVENING CENTERS.

MY GUESS IS AT THAT POINT THE MUNICIPALITIES WILL OPT TO JUST GO WITH A SINGLE FEE STRUCTURE AND BE ALL INCLUSIVE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE THAT'S WHY THE CONSULTANTS LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT BOTH OPTIONS TO THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN REACH OUT TO MR. POLITIES . AND IF MR. PALLIATIVES THE PEOPLE WITH ANY MUNICIPALITIES, IF THEY FEEL THEY STILL WANT TO HAVE ACCESS INDIAN CENTERS, THEN WE'LL JUST GO WITH OPTION ONE WHICH IS THE SINGLE FEE STRUCTURE.

>> WELL, I'M I'M I'M GLAD YOU'RE BRINGING IT UP AND I HOPE ALL THE PUBLIC THAT LIVED IN THAT INCORPORATED AREAS WILL VOICE THEIR CONCERNS IF NOT BEING ABLE TO USE A CONVENIENT CENTER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REACTION WILL BE BUT I HOPE THEY REACH OUT TO THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. THANK YOU.

YEAH. AND AGAIN I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE DID LOOK AT THAT OPTION AT THE REQUEST OF SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES. THANK YOU DAVE AND FOR THE RECORD, ALEX, I JOIN YOU IN IN THE REQUESTS OF THE PUBLIC TO REACH OUT TO THEIR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS OR MUNICIPAL ELECTED OFFICIALS TO ASK THEM TO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS VERY CAREFULLY AND REALIZE THAT MANY PEOPLE WITHIN THE MUNICIPALITIES DO USE ALTHOUGH

INFREQUENTLY THEY DO USE THE CONVENING CENTERS. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM? YES, GO AHEAD, DAVE.

THE AGENDA SAID THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THE DECALS SYSTEM.

DID YOU DO THAT? >> THAT'S NEXT LARRY. CINDY CINDY.

WELL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

CINDY CARTER ERA. >> YOU KNOW IF AND EVERYBODY ON DISABILITY UPDATE ON THE DECALS SINCE THE LAST PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING WE I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME ANGEL MARCIN KOSKI. SHE STARTED WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENT ALL THE TEAM AND THEN SHE'S GOING TO BE THE PROMPT CONTACT FOR THE DATA DECALS SYSTEM. WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH AN EDUCATION PLAN WITH THAT. WE HAVE CONTINUED SINCE JUNE. OUR BOLICK WE BIWEEKLY MEETINGS WITH I.T. ALL THE PHONES HAVE BEEN SECURED THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE FOR SCANNING.

WE'VE PURCHASED EXTRA BATTERIES AND CHARGERS. WE'VE SPENT SO FAR ABOUT 900 DOLLARS. IF YOU REMEMBER WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR REFURBISHED PHONES THAT ARE OUR ALREADY PROPERTY OF BEEF WITH COUNTY. WE'VE HAD VIRTUAL MEETINGS WITH ATI AND OUR PROPOSED VENDOR FOR DEKALB SPECIFIC. I THINK WE'VE HONED IN NOW ON A THREE BY THREE DETAIL. WE HAD ORIGINALLY GOTTEN A PRICE FOR AN INTERNAL APPLICATION BUT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH EASY SCANNING THROUGH POTENTIALLY TINTED WINDOWS. SO WE'RE NOW GOING TO OPT FOR AN EXTERNAL WINDSHIELD DETAIL.

I WOULD CHECK WITH THE VENDOR THAT SHOULD HAVE ABOUT A THREE YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY BEFORE

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SO WE HAVE ALSO ADDED YOU ARE ILL CODE ON THOSE POSTCARDS ONCE THEY'RE PRINTED SO THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THEY CAN GO THROUGH BASIC CONNECT FOR THAT.

OBVIOUSLY OUR PRINTING ORDER IS PENDING. WE'VE GOTTEN THE RESIDENTIAL INVENTORY DOWNLOAD FROM SHAREPOINT SO WE'RE READY FOR WHEN THESE REQUESTS START COMING IN. AND NOT JUST A FOCUS JUST ON DETAILS BUT SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES WE HAVE RECEIVED THE SIGNAGE FOR ALL OF THE CENTERS. THE TWO CENTERS THAT ARE CLOSING AND THE ONES ARE CHANGING OPERATING HOURS AND DAYS AND THOSE HAVE BEEN INSTALLED LAST WEEK. I WAS IN TOUCH WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TODAY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN CASE THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ONCE THEY SEE THOSE SIGNS. OUR ATTENDANCE SHELTERS SO THAT PEOPLE WILL BE SCANNING AND BE SHELTERED FROM THE ELEMENTS. WE'VE ASSESSED THOSE.

WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE READY FOR ORDERING IN SEPTEMBER. AND WE'VE DEVELOPED A TIMELINE MOVING FORWARD OUR EDUCATION JUST FOR THE DECALS SHOULD START OCTOBER 1ST.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EDUCATION EARLIER THAN THAT FOR THE OTHER ITEMS AND WE HOPE TO HAVE INITIAL TESTING FOR ANYBODY THAT DOES HAVE A DISCOUNT BEGINNING IN NOVEMBER AFTER WE CAN GET OUR ATTENDANCE TRAINED AND WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT TO THE LAST MINUTE.

WE'D LIKE TO DO IT A SLOW, GRADUAL PROCESS. BRING THIS ON LINE.

ONE OF OUR FOREMAN ALSO HAD A GREAT IDEA FOR THOSE DETAILS THAT ACTUALLY MAIL OUT.

WE'D LIKE TO SUPPLEMENT OUR CONVENIENCE IN OUR BRADSHAW BY GIVING PEOPLE A HAND OUT IN THERE ON THE LIGHT WITH TIPS ON REALLY THE MOST COMMON PROBLEMS WE SEE AT THE DROP OFF CENTERS AT THE SIZE OF A TRAILER OR THAT SORT OF THING. I HAVE GOTTEN A FEW INQUIRIES BY PHONE AND BY EMAIL AND WE ARE ADDRESSING THOSE ONE BY ONE ON MOST OF OR JUST ASKING QUESTIONS. I HAVE NOT HAD ANYBODY THAT HUNG UP ANGRY.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE US TO TO TAKE SOME TIME AND TALK WITH THEM ONE ONE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT WE HAD ALREADY BEGUN JULY 1ST AND KIND OF AN UPDATE OF THE SOLID WASTE RECYCLING WEB SITE. IT WAS A LOT OF MATERIAL THERE THAT WAS WAS OLDER AND OBSOLETE. SO WE'VE KIND OF REFRESHED OUR SITE.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NOW IS IS HAVE A MECHANISM THAT WE CAN HAVE THE CURRENT OPERATING HOURS LISTED BUT ALSO FROM AN EDUCATION STANDPOINT. LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE CHANGING.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.

AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS IS GOING TO GO SMOOTHLY. MR. CHAIRMAN, A QUESTION.

THIS IS MIKE. ALL. GO AHEAD, MICHAEL.

CINDY, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THAT. JUST SAY NO TO PASS ALONG.

THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING THE SIGNS UP. I'M SPEAKING FOR PRITCHARD VILLE GIVE IT ROAD FACILITY. BUT AS YOU COULD IMAGINE I HAD SOMEONE CALL AND COMPLAIN THAT ON THE SIGN AND I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THIS BUT WHERE IT SAYS TO ALERT PEOPLE TO GO TO THE SIMMONS MILL ROAD CENTER IT SAYS BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA. AND THEY ASKED THAT THAT BE CHANGED TO BLUFFTON TO NOT CONFUSE FOLKS. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR ADVISING. WE HAD GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION EARLIER TODAY.

THEY HAD TAKEN SOME TAPE AND TAKEN THAT BEAUFORT OFF AND OUR SON MANUFACTURE IS GETTING SOMETHING TO PUT OVER THAT WITH THE CORRECT NAME. THANK YOU AND WELCOME, MS. MA. MARTIN KOSKI, WELCOME TO BEAUFORT COUNTY.

THANK YOU. WHO IS NEXT? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HEAR WHO

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IS THERE GOING TO BE A CHARGE TO PURCHASE A VEHICLE? >> NO, SIR.

HAVE YOU DECIDED ON A LIMIT OF DECALS PER HOUSEHOLD? >> NO, SIR.

EACH DETAIL WILL STILL GO TO THE ONE ADDRESS. SO DOWN.

YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE FEEL LIKE WE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LIMIT HOW MANY TIMES SAY A CONTRACTOR CAN TELL ME AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE DUPLICATE NUMBERS AND I'LL BE TIED TO YOUR SAME ADDRESS IF THERE IS A TWO CAR HOUSEHOLD, A RESIDENT WILL EACH CAR BE ABLE TO HAVE A DETAIL

THAT'S POSSIBLE. >> OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD PREFER THAT YOU GET THOSE ELECTRONICALLY RATHER THAN HARD COPY BUT IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE. IT WOULD ALL BE TIED AND EVERY TIME IT SCANNED IT'S GOING TO SCAN TO THAT ADDRESS. SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEBODY IN MULTIPLE CARS COMING FROM THE SAME ADDRESS IS GOING TO PROBABLY GIVE US THE

DATA THAT THEY'RE LIKELY A CONTRITE. >> WELL, OK.

I WAS SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDING CONTRACTORS FROM MY QUESTION AND DEALING ONLY WITH HOUSEHOLDS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND DON'T CONTRA WILL THEY BE ABLE TO USE MULTIPLE CARS,

ENTER THE CONVENIENT CENTER OR ARE THEY LIMITED TO ONE CAR? >> YES OR THEY CAN HAVE MULTIPLE CARS. OK. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED

SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE TRAILER. >> IS IT OUR INTENTION STILL TO ALLOW DEMOLITION AND CONSTRUCTION AND YARD WASTE TO BE DEPOSITED IN THESE CONVENIENT CENTERS BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY? THE WISH OF COUNCIL WAS NOT TO ELIMINATE CND FROM OUR CENTERS. BUT IF AN OUT OF COUNTY RESIDENT IS A CONTRACTOR THEY WOULD NOT LIKELY BE ABLE TO GET A DETAIL.

IT'S NOT THE SIZE SOME FRIEND OF THEIRS WOULDN'T SHARE. THERE'S GONNA BE SOME FALLACIES

UP FRONT. DID YOU? >> I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY IT WAS THE WILL OF COUNCIL NOT TO ELIMINATE CONSTRUCTION DEMOLITION AND YARD WASTE.

>> THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROPOSALS FROM OUR CONSULTANT WAS TO NOT HAVE CONSTRUCTION DEMOLITION COLLECTED OUR CENTERS. BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT

IT IS CONTINUING YES OR I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ANSWER. >> WELL LET ME LET ME GIVE IT A SHOT HERE. WE VOTE ON IT. AND OUR EXCUSE ME WE HEARD THIS THIS PROPOSAL AND I THINK IT WAS A VOTE. IF IT WASN'T A VOTE THEN IT WAS CLEARLY THE WILL OF COUNCIL THAT WE MOVE ALONG WITH OTHER IDEAS FIRST AND THAT WE SEE WHAT THE EFFECT OF THE D SCALE SYSTEM IS. BEFORE WE TRY TO ELIMINATE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS AND YARD WASTE AND SO WE MAY END UP TAKING UP THAT MATTER AT ANOTHER TIME. WE SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION AND ON ELTON. ED AND ELIMINATING THAT. AND THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I BELIEVE HAD UP AND ENOUGH SUPPORT TO MOVE FORWARD. IS THAT YOUR RECOLLECTION, SANDY? I KNOW THERE WAS DISCUSSION. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO REMOVE SANDY FROM ANY OF THE SENATORS AT THIS TIME.

>> LET ME FOLLOW UP WITH THAT QUESTION. WHEN YOU SAY IT WAS THE WILL OF COUNCIL, IT WAS THE WILL OF A COMMITTEE OR THE FULL COUNCIL IF MY RECOLLECTION IS FAMILIAR ,EVERYBODY FROM COUNCIL WAS IN ATTENDANCE PUBLIC FACILITIES AND THEN I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WENT OUT PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER AT SANDY.

THANK, MR. CHAIRMAN. OH, I'M SORRY. >> I'M SORRY.

THE END OF THAT AND YES, THAT ANSWER WAS CUT OFF. SO I STILL DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A FULL COUNCIL OR IF IT WAS A COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. MR. MCKELL DASCHLE SAID IT WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL THAT BUT WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH AND PRESENTED THAT AS IT IS A COST SAVING OPTION. AND COUNCIL HAS NOT VOTED TO DO THAT AS A BODY.

>> I HAVE NOT VOTED TO ELIMINATE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS AND YARD WEIGHT.

>> CORRECT. IS THAT I MEAN IS THAT ENOUGH? YOU NEED MORE?

THANK YOU. >> I'M SURPRISED THAT YES. QUITE FRANKLY I THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY DECIDED TO ELIMINATE THAT AS PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO REDUCE THE COST OF USING THESE

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SO I'M VERY SURPRISED TO HEAR ALL THAT WE'VE HAD OVER 100 DAYS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH MY FRIEND MR. MCKELLEN THAT AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS WHOLE THING WAS THE CONVERSATION OF AN OBTUSE AMOUNT OF CND REFUGE AT THESE FACILITIES.

>> I FOR ONE EVEN REMEMBER SAYING INSTEAD OF CLOSING PRITCHARD VILLE LET'S NOT ALLOW C AND D BUT LET THE PEOPLE STILL DUMP THEIR TRASH. I HAVE TO AGREE I I I DIDN'T REMEMBER IT THIS WAY. WELL IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF WHETHER IT WAS AT THE COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL I DON'T REMEMBER COUNCIL TAKING ANY KIND OF AN ACTION INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION DEMOLITION AND YARD WASTE. I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO

EXCLUDE THAT TO REDUCE COST POVERTY. >> MAY I INTERJECT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS AT THIS COMMITTEE WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS IN VARIOUS STAGES.

THE REASON WE WERE GOING TO CLOSE PRITCHARD BILL WAS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT AND THE FACT WE COULD NOT HAVE A DETAILED SYSTEM THAT WOULD WORK .

IT WAS SAFETY AND SECURITY THERE. WE WERE GOING TO PUT THE DECALS SYSTEM BECAUSE WE FELT THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS WOULD BE ELIMINATED BECAUSE OF A DETAILED SYSTEM AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO ELSEWHERE TO DUMP CND WHICH WOULD DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CND. AND THAT IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD IN FACT TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEXT STEPS WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE COSTS WERE REDUCED BECAUSE THE DECALS

SYSTEM REDUCED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE USING THE FACILITIES. >> THAT'S EXACTLY MY RECOLLECTION, JOE. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE ADOPTED BY THE BUDGET PROCESS AND SO WE'RE AT LEAST STUCK WITH OUR CURRENT PROCESS FOR A YEAR. AND I IMAGINE AT LEAST THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THAT WITHIN A YEAR WE WOULD KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD REACHED A MANAGEABLE LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS ENTERING THE CONVENIENT CENTERS. WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR MATTER? >> STU?

>> GO AHEAD, STEVE. NOW MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M STILL CONFUSED ON ONE OTHER ITEM ARE THE DECALS GOING TO THE VEHICLE MOUNTED THE HARD COPIES THAT PEOPLE REQUEST ARE GOING TO BE HARD MOUNTED ON THE WINDSHIELD FOR SCANNING PURPOSES. HOWEVER, IF YOU DON'T WANT A HARD COPY DETAIL, YOU DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ELECT CHRONIC DETAIL THROUGH BASIC CONNECT ON YOUR PHONE THAT SHOULD ALSO HELP ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM WITH MULTIPLE CARS BECAUSE YOU'D ACTUALLY HAVE THIS ON YOUR PHONE JUST MY OPINION.

>> IT SEEMS TO BE ANYTHING LESS THAN A VEHICLE MOUNTED DECALS ARE GOING TO GET USED AND PEOPLE WILL PASS THEIR PHONES AROUND AND EVERYTHING ELSE BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

>> YOU MAY VERY WELL BE RIGHT STEVE, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.

I MEAN AGAIN THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO GET TO A MANAGEABLE LEVEL WHERE WE CAN AFFORD THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AND PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN AFFORD.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DEKALB SYSTEM? NOW I JUST WANT YOU TO DIAL 1 0

1 QUITE A 1. >> GO AHEAD, MR. MACALLAN. DOES THAT MEAN EVERYBODY WHO

APPLIES FOR DEKALB WILL GET ONE ? >> THAT DOES NOT MEAN IF YOU APPLY FOR ONE THAT YOU GETTING ONE. I THINK I MENTIONED THAT WE DO HAVE A DATABASE OF OUR ASSESSORS OFFICE OF ABOUT 92000 HOUSEHOLDS.

SO WHEN PEOPLE REQUEST A DETAIL IT WILL BE MATCHED TO OUR OUR ASSESSOR'S LIST WOULD HAVE TO

BE A HOUSEHOLD. >> WE CAN'T BE A COMMERCIAL CONTRACTING FACILITY HAS TO BE A HOUSEHOLD. WE WERE GIVEN RESIDENTIAL HOUSEHOLDS AT ABOUT NINETY TWO THOUSAND OR SO THAT WOULD ELIMINATE EVERYBODY WHO'S IN THE CONTRACTING.

>> WELL, THEY ALSO ARE PROBABLY HOMEOWNERS SO. >> OK.

I HAVE A QUESTION IF I MIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD, CHRIS.

A LOT OF CONTRACTORS DON'T HAVE COMMERCIAL ADDRESSES LIKE THEY JUST BASICALLY WORK FROM AND THEY WORK OUT OF A STORAGE FACILITY WHERE THEY KEEP THEIR TRUCK OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE HOW

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TO LOADS TO CONVENIENT CENTER AND THAT WOULD BE IT. >> SO ANY HOUSEHOLD TRASH THEY GENERATE WOULD HAVE TO STAY AT THEIR HOUSE. I THINK THAT THIS WILL BE ABUSED A LOT LESS THAN WE ANTICIPATE BUT IT WILL STILL GET ABUSED AND IT JUST LIKE ANY SYSTEM IT'S GOING TO BE IS GOING TO BE BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT SOME LEVELING AND WE WILL ARRIVE AT DATA. OUR TRIAL HORN AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH HIM WILL DEVELOP THE DATA INDICATE WILL INDICATE TO US WHO WE THINK THE CONTRACTORS ARE. THEY WILL BE APPROACHED AND INFORMED OF POTENTIAL PROBLEMS AND WILL MOVE ON FROM THERE. AND WHAT THE WHAT LIES AND WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THEIR

QUESTIONS. >> WELL, ONE FINAL COMMENT. THIS IS JOE PASS JUDGMENT.

I WROTE DOWN SOME OF THE TIMELINES THAT YOU HAVE. WE KNOW PRITCHARD BILL IS CLOSING JANUARY 1ST. WE KNOW THAT THE DECALS SYSTEM PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL NOVEMBER FOR TESTING DECEMBER POSSIBLY JANUARY.

MY CONCERN IS THIS MY CONSTITUENTS HERE IN DISTRICT 6 WITH THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THEM ARE SUN CITY RESIDENTS WHO USE PRITCHARD BILL. I NEED TO GET INFORMATION TO THEM IN A TIMELY FASHION TO EDUCATE THEM ON EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

BECAUSE THEY COVERED TWO SIDES OF TWO 78 ON ONE SIDE. THEY ARE BEAUFORT COUNTY RESIDENTS. ON THE OTHER SIDE THEY ARE JASPER COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SO ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO HELP ME GET THE WORD OUT PRIOR TO PORTERVILLE CLOSING BECAUSE I HAVE A MEETING IN EARLY SEPTEMBER TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF EDUCATING THEM.

>> ANYONE CLEARLY AND CLEARLY, JOE, THAT JASPER COUNTY RESIDENTS SHOULD BE TOLD THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE OUR CONVENIENT CENTERS BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M SURE STAFF WILL. WE'LL COMMUNICATE WITH YOU THE LATEST PLAN AND THE TIMELINE AS AS IT DEVELOPS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RON, I DO HAVE ONE MORE

QUESTION JUST TO JUST TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. >> SO THIS MEANS THAT ANYONE THAT IS A RENTER AND DOES NOT OWN PROPERTY WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR ANY TYPE OF LOVE

BUT PASS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

OK. CINDY, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE.

THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN ATTAIN THE DETAIL AND THEN PASS THAT ON TO WHOEVER THEY HAVE IS THEIR RENTER. OK. IS THAT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY? YEAH. IF YOU'RE A RENTER YOU WILL HAVE KALE FOR YOUR HOUSEHOLD.

YOU'LL NEED TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF THE LAND OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.

HE WILL ASSIST YOU IF NOT CONTACT THE COUNTY DIRECTLY AND WE'LL WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET YOU AT AS A HOUSEHOLD GET YOU A DISCOUNT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH STAFF FOR YOUR INPUT ON THIS MATTER AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. AND CINDY CARTER, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYBODY BEING MEAN TO YOU JUST JUST SO YOU KNOW WE DO THIS THING.

[12. CONSIDERATION OF THE APPOINTMENT OF VIRGINIA (GINNIE) KOZOK- BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE]

JENNY KOZAK IS IS ON DECK. ALICE, I BELIEVE THAT'S YOUR DISTRICT.

GO AHEAD. YES. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE JANET GOES

TO REPRESENT DISTRICT 4 ON THE SEAT TO SAY A SECOND. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. GLOVER. FIRST SECOND. AND I ASSUME THIS WILL BE WITHOUT OBJECTION. BUT I NEED TO INTERJECT A COMMENT.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYBODY WHO WILL BE MORE HELPFUL TO THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE THAN JENNY KOZAK AND I CERTAINLY THANK HER FOR VOLUNTEERING TO HELP US OUT.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. YOU BRINGS A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE TO THE TABLE AND A VERY FINELY HONED INTELLECT AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY. SHE'S UP.

SHE'S ON DECK. SO ABSENT ANY OBJECTIONS, THE APPOINTMENT OF JENNY KOVAK TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WILL MOVE FORWARD.

[13. CITIZEN COMMENTS]

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>> YES, SIR. AND PUT IT UP FOR YOU IF THAT'S OKAY.

>> JUST ONE JUST ONE. DON'T SEE IT YET.

HERE WE GO. I THINK. ALL RIGHT.

WOW. IT'S A LENGTHY NOTE. THIS IS REGARDING THE JOHNSON

LANDING EASEMENT ISSUE. >> WE WERE TALKING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BEGINNING MEETING AND I'M ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN IT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES FOR ME TO READ THIS. PLEASE HAVE THIS ENTERED INTO THE RECORD, ATTACH IT TO THE AGENDA AND THE MINUTES IF YOU WOULD PLEASE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL GETS A COPY. AND COULD YOU MOVE IT DOWN SO I CAN SEE WHO THE LETTER IS FROM

? >> OK, SEVERAL OWNERS I ASSUME ALONG THE JOHNSON LANDING ROAD I BELIEVE THEIR NAMES WERE AT THE TOP OF THE OF THE LETTER I READ THE NAMES SO PLEASE LOOK THROUGH YOUR E MAIL FOR A LETTER FROM SARA FORWARDED FROM SARA FROM MARK AND THAT BRIAN JAMES, NANCY RATHBUN, WALTER RATHBUN, SAMUEL WHITE BERRY GUTIN, SHEILA GREEN ADD BELIEVE THAT WAS IT WAS A LETTER THAT WENT TO PAUL SOMERVILLE MISSPELLED AM I I MIGHT MENTION AND THANK THEM FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT SARA IF YOU WOULD RETURN BY EMAIL TELL THEM EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WILL RECEIVE A COPY OF THE LETTER AND IT WILL BE ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA AND THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS FOLKS WILL READ THAT LETTER AND CONSIDER IT BEFORE THIS MOVES TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CITIZEN COMMENTS? >> IS ANYBODY MONITORING ON

FACEBOOK? >> YEAH, ON FACEBOOK IT LOOKED LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING FROM SOMEONE POSTING A MESSAGE FROM FEMA WHISTLE BLOWER HAS AN URGENT MESSAGE FOR AMERICA.

>> YEAH, I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE APPROPRIATE. NO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FOLKS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER MANNERS TO COME BEFORE THE

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