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[2:00 pm Call to Order]

[00:00:03]

THIS MEETING OF THE STANDING POLICY COMMITTEE TO ORDER ON JULY 30TH.

IF WE COULD STAND FOR THE PLEDGE, PLEASE GO AHEAD TO THE FLAG STATES AND TO THE REPUBLIC ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[Approval of Agenda]

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA IS THE NEXT ITEM.

OKAY.

NO DISCUSSION IN THAT THREE ZERO ALREADY.

PUBLIC COMMENTS, ROBIN.

THAT IS, THAT IS GOOD.

OKAY.

THEN WE GET RIGHT

[Continued Review and Update of Target Policies]

TO OUR WORK.

UM, TWO THINGS WE DEFINITELY WANT TO FINISH HERE.

IT IS THE GRIEVANCE POLICY FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE GRIEVANCE POLICY FOR, UM, WARD MEMBER.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE OWYHEE FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT.

WE NEED TO AGREE ON THAT ALSO.

AND I BELIEVE IF WE CAN FINISH THOSE THREE THINGS, WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THE POLICY ISSUES.

WE STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON THE HANDBOOK, BUT THE HANDBOOK IS NOT GOING TO REQUIRE THREE READINGS.

SO I THINK WE'LL FOCUS ON THE POLICY TODAY.

LET'S LOOK AT GC QUESTION MARK, UM, REGARDING THE SUPERINTENDENT, THIS IS AN ACCURATE REFLECTION OF RESULTS OR WORK AT THE LAST MEETING.

AND WHEN DO WE HAD A QUESTION, UM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE HIGHLIGHTED SECTION AT THE BOTTOM SECTION EIGHT, WHICH REALLY SHOULD BE SEVEN.

IT SHOULD BE A SECTION SEVEN, BUT THAT HIGHLIGHTED SECTION, UM, WE WANTED TO TOUCH BASE WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT WAS APPROPRIATE AND COMPREHENSIVE.

AND HERE, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY.

UM, SO NEW AMENDMENTS TO THE TITLE, YOU KNOW, SO HOW I SHOULD WRAP THIS, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME HEAR A TITLE OR SUPPORT BASED ON WHAT I SEE HERE, I'M JUST GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW, WENDY, CAN YOU HARD TO HEAR? I THINK PROBABLY CAUSE YOUR FACE OR YOUR MOUTH IS WELL I'M RIGHT NOW.

I'M RIGHT AGAINST THE, UM, OH, NOW YOU'RE GOOD.

YOU'RE REAL GOOD.

YEAH.

AND, AND WHAT I THINK I NEED TO DO IS I THINK THAT I NEED TO, AT THE END OF TITLE, NINE OF THE EDUCATIONAL AMENDMENTS OF 1972, THAT, AND THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT POLICY NET POLICY ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION, THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE ONE WITH THE OVER 2000 PAGES OF REGS, THOSE REFERENCES THAT I USING IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION ARE FROM 34 CFR ONE OH SIX.

SO I JUST NEED TO, I WILL ADD THAT IN THERE AND GET THAT TO ROBIN THAT'S LIKE, IN ADDITION, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT BECAUSE THESE ARE SO DETAILED THAT I SHOULD MAKE REFERENCE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN THAT 20, 20 USC, I THINK I SHOULD REFERENCE THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, THAT CHAPTER 34, EXACTLY WHERE IT STARTS, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT STARTS IN THE, YOU KNOW, PART OF IT TO ONE OH SIX PART OF IT.

SO MOST OF IT'S IN ONE OH SIX, BUT I JUST, I JUST WANNA DOUBLE CHECK MYSELF CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S 34 CFR SECTION ONE OH SIX.

ALRIGHT.

WE HAVE TOO MANY CONVERSATIONS GOING ON.

YOU MIGHT NEED TO MUTE.

EARL'S

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SEE.

WHAT'S WHAT HAPPENS OR ARE YOU COMING LATE AND WE MUTE YOU.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YOU HAVE SOMEONE WORKING IN.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHEN DO YOU'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT HIGHLIGHT ITSELF? YEAH.

SO I'M GOING TO JUST WRITE THAT DOWN RIGHT NOW.

CHECK 34 CFR SECTION ONE.

OH YEAH.

OKAY.

I GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THE ONLY OTHER OPEN ITEM IS THE QUESTION MORE JUICY QUESTION MARK.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHICH NUMBER IT WOULD BE, SO, UM, BUT YOU COULD EVEN PROBABLY DO THAT ROBIN.

RIGHT? YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT ONE, JUST PUT, JUST PUT IT IN FOLLOWING WHATEVER THE LAST NUMBER IS.

OKAY.

SO TINA HAS A QUESTION, ROBIN, CAN YOU GO PUT THAT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN OR I CAN GO BACK INTO MY, UM, LET ME GO BACK AND GET, CAN GET IT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AND I'M SORRY, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT BEEN TO, UH, YOUR MORE RECENT POLICY COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO KEEP SCROLLING.

OKAY.

WELL UNDER THE GRIEVANCE PROCEDURE, UM, SO JUST IN GENERAL, UH, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT, UM, AN EMPLOYEE, A DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEE COULD SO EASILY FIND THEM.

AND SO HOW ARE YOU AVOIDING THAT KIND OF THING? YOU KNOW, LIKE, OH, THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS, YOU KNOW, THE SUPERINTENDENT CAN TRANSFER ANYBODY FROM ONE POSITION TO ANOTHER.

AND WHAT IF SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, THAT'S NOT FAIR.

I WANNA FILE A GRIEVANCE OP A BUMP, EVEN SUPPLY TO THERE'S A SECTION UP ABOUT BOB THAT SAYS ALMOST THINGS AREN'T CONSIDERED GRIEVANCES TRANSFER OF AN EMPLOYEE.

RIGHT.

YOU SEE THOSE TINA? OH YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WHAT DOES THIS COVER THEN? I MEAN, THIS IS MORE LIKE A HARASSMENT OR, OH, RESOLVE THOSE THINGS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THEY WANT TO, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT TITLE SIX, TITLE SEVEN IS HARASSMENT IN A, UM, IN A HOSPITAL WORKPLACE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ALRIGHT.

NOW, IF YOU SCROLL BACK UP TO, I THINK IT WAS CALLED LEVEL HERE, BE WHAT THE BOARD CHAIR, I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THE BOARD CHAIR HAS TO DO.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS NECESSARILY POSSIBLE TO DO.

I MEAN, LIKE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY, UM, LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEYS WE HAVE ON OUR ATTORNEY LIST AND TO HAVE THEM AVAILABLE, TO, TO MEET WITH THE BOARD WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS IS, IS, UH, THAT'S PRETTY, UH, PRETTY, UH, QUICK THAT THEY HAVE TO COME.

ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE NOT MEETING LIKE THIS BY ZOOM, IF THEY'RE GONNA COME PERSON, I KNOW JUST, I DON'T KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE IT HERE.

WELL, WE WERE MIRRORING, WE WERE TRYING TO MIRROR AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE, THE EXISTENCE GRIEVANCE POLICY FOR EVERYONE, BUT THE SUPERINTENDENT, I THINK THE FIVE DAYS WAS IN THERE, BUT WE THREW IN THAT MEETING.

MAYBE WE SHOULD ADD IN AS SOON AS PRACTICABLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

CAUSE ALSO I SEE IT.

OKAY.

WHAT IF THE BOARD CHAIR IS ON, ON VACATION THAT WEEK? WELL, YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH.

AND THEN I JUST DON'T, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

AND MAYBE WENDY KNOWS RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF HER HEAD, A BOARD APPROVED LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY.

IS THAT A SPECIAL TYPE OF A, IS THAT A SUBSPECIALTY OF CERTIFICATION THAT'S OBTAINED THROUGH THE SOUTH CAROLINA BAR? HOW COMMON IS IT? EXCUSE ME.

HOW COMMON IS THAT CERTIFICATION? I COULD LOOK IT UP IN THE BAR TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE STATE HABIT.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IT TAKES A WHILE TO, I MEAN, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THAT ON OUR LIST, YOU KNOW, LIKE DO THE, WE'VE GOT, I DON'T KNOW, SEVEN MAYBE FIRMS OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN TWO OF THEM.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

OKAY.

AND ON, ON THE TIMING, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SAYS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ARRANGE A MEETING WITHIN FIVE DAYS, SO YEAH.

OH, YOU DON'T THINK THE MEETING HAS TO TAKE PLACE IN THAT FIVE DAYS? WELL, I THINK WE COULD ALWAYS ARGUE THAT IT WAS ARRANGED

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WITHIN FIVE DAYS.

SO YEAH, SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANT TO MENTION TO YOU ALL, AND MAYBE AFTER WE HAVE OUR OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING NEXT WEEK, UM, IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE SUPERINTENDENT UNDER THIS SEXUAL HARASSMENT, A TITLE IX COMPLAINT, IT'S A SPECIFIC, UM, DEFINITION OF WHAT IS INCLUDED AS SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS HAVE BECOME, UM, VERY DETAILED WITH RESPECT TO THE, UH, WAY THAT THE BATTER'S HANDLED.

AND JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A REPORT OF ALLEGATIONS, UM, REGARDING SEXUAL HARASSMENT, UM, THAT AFTER IT GOES TO THE TITLE IX COORDINATOR, AND IF A FORMAL COMPLAINT IS FILED, I MEAN, THERE THERE'S A WRITTEN NOTICE REQUIREMENT UPON RECEIPT OF A FORMAL COMPLAINT.

THE DISTRICT MUST PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO ALL THE PARTIES THERE'S, UM, SUPPORTIVE MEASURES THAT MUST BE NOTICED.

I MEAN, THIS IS VERY DETAILED AS FAR AS THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

SO I GUESS WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO IS AFTER I GET TO REVIEW THIS WITH THE VIDEO NEXT WEEK, WE WILL HAVE TO, IF THERE WAS EVER A SEXUAL HARASSMENT COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST THE SUPERINTENDENT, THEN THE BOARD, I MEAN, THERE'S THERE, IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PARTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS NOW WAS REALLY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS BEFORE.

UM, RIGHT.

BUT WHERE WE'RE AT, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT NUMBER TWO UNDER THAT B WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT.

BUT WHEN WE GOT LEGAL ADVICE, ALL OF THAT WOULD BE EXTREME.

NO, I THINK SOME OF THAT DOES, BUT HERE'S THE, HERE'S WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO BE.

I GUESS WE NEED TO REFERENCE THE POLICY, UM, BECAUSE, OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATION, BECAUSE NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF DEADLINES AND ALSO THERE'S A INFORMAL COMPLAINT PROCESS OF MEDIATION THERE'S APPEALS.

AND THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DESIGNATED TO SERVE IN THOSE ROLES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

OH.

AND THEY HAVE TO BE TRAINED.

THEY HAVE TO BE SPECIFICALLY TRAINED IN THE ROLES.

AND SO, UM, IT'S A VERY INVOLVED PROCESS.

AND SO I DON'T, I MEAN, YOU COULD GO TO YOUR ATTORNEY FOR, YOU WOULD GO TO YOUR LABOR EMPLOYMENT ATTORNEY TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE PROCESS, IF THERE IS A, THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS TYPE OF COMPLAINT UNDER TITLE NINE AND THE, UM, IT'S VERY STRENUOUS REQUIREMENTS JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THIS, LIKE THE TITLE NINE COORDINATORS, THE INVESTIGATORS, THE DECISION MAKERS, UM, THE PERSON THAT HEARS APPEALS, THEY HAVE TO, UH, BE INVOLVED IN TRAINING AND THEY HAVE TO, THEY HAVE TO HAVE TRAINING ABOUT HOW TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION APPEALS AND FORMAL RESOLUTION, HOW TO SERVE IMPARTIALLY, INCLUDING AVOIDING PRE-JUDGMENT AND THE FACTS THAT ISSUE ABOUT CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND BIAS DECISION MAKERS MUST RECEIVE TRAINING ON ISSUES OF RELEVANCE, OF QUESTIONS AND EVIDENCE.

THE INVESTIGATORS MUST ALSO REACH CRANING ON ISSUES OF RELEVANCE TO CREATE THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT THAT FAIRLY SUMMARIZES RELEVANT EVIDENCE.

UM, AND THE BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATION IS REQUIRED TO MAKE THESE TRAINING MATERIALS USED TO TRAIN COORDINATORS, INVESTIGATORS, DECISION MAKERS, AND ANY PERSON WHO FACILITATES INFORMAL RESOLUTION, WHICH IS LIKE A MEDIATION.

ALL THAT TRAINING MATERIAL HAS TO BE PUBLISHED ON THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE.

SO IF THERE IS A SERIOUS COMPLAINT OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT FALLING UNDER THIS NARROW DEFINITION, IT IS A VERY FORMAL PROCESS.

SO IT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED REGARDLESS OF WHO IT, I MEAN, REGARDLESS OF WHO I'M SAYING, EVEN IF IT'S LIKE, IF IT'S A SUPERINTENDENT, IT WOULD BE THE SAME PROCESS.

SO I JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO POINT, THIS IS, THESE ARE ALL NEW REGULATIONS AND THEY ARE VERY, UM, THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC AND DETAILED.

SO THIS IS A WHOLE NEW, THIS IS A WHOLE NEW, UM, PROCEDURE.

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YEAH.

OBVIOUSLY SUGGEST TO OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

UM, THE ASSOCIATION, UM, TIFFANY SENT OUT A FLOW CHART OF THE NEW CHURCH.

IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT THAT, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S, UH, IT'S PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE.

AND THAT, AND THAT FLOW CHART IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL, UM, OF THE VARIOUS PATHS YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

SO I PRINTED IT OFF, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST EVERYBODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, TO GET A FEEL FOR HOW COMPLICATED IT IS.

MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR ALL SCHEDULE IS LIKE, BUT THANK YOU, MR. ABOUT THE MEETING NEXT WEEK AT THREE, WHICH I HOPE WILL WORK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THEN MAYBE IF MS. ROBOT AND MR. CAMPBELL, DR.

BLOGS, IF Y'ALL COULD BE THERE, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, FOR ALL THE YOUTH, RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO THE MEETING.

UM, WHEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT HIS OPERATIONS COMMITTEE AS A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY AT 3:00 PM TO ONE, YOU TO REVIEW ALL THE AR CHANGES NECESSITATED BY THE NEW TITLE NINE.

YEAH.

AND, BUT IT'S WHAT IT'S INVOLVING IS IT'S LIKE A SUPPLEMENTAL IT'S SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE CURRENT POLICY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SPECIFIC TO A VERY NARROW PORTION OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT.

SO DO YOU THINK, LET ME ASK A QUESTION BASED ON WHAT, UM, UH, WHEN DID YOU SEND, DO WE NEED TO THEN EVERY YEAR HAVE A BOARD MEMBER THAT GETS TRAINED, UM, IN ONE OF, YOU KNOW, NO DAVID YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

NO.

UM, I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY THAT, TO SAY THAT INTELLIGENTLY, I'M ALWAYS RELUCTANT TO HAVE A PAY BOARD MEMBER TRAINED, YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON.

UM, AND I, I'M JUST ASSUMING THAT ALL OF THIS COMES UNDER RECEIVING LEGAL ADVICE ON THE PROPER PROCEDURE AND DUE PROCESS.

YEP.

BUT, AND SO WE WILL JUST HAVE TO MAKE REFERENCE.

YEAH.

AND ALSO ABOUT, LIKE WENDY'S SAYING THAT PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT ARE APPOINTED IN THESE POSITIONS, IT'D BE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO NOT THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME CONFLICT FOR PEOPLE WHO REPORT TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TO BE, UM, INVESTIGATE INVESTIGATING SOMETHING ABOUT THE SUPERINTENDENT.

SO YEAH.

THAT'S MY, I ASKED ABOUT, DO WE NEED BOARD MEMBERS TRAINED? YEAH.

THE TITLE NINE COORDINATOR, WHICH OKAY.

WITH RESPECT TO ISSUES INVOLVING STAFF, THAT TITLE NINE COORDINATOR IS MS. WALTON.

THE TITLE IX COORDINATOR FOR STUDENTS IS MISS, BUT KINSHASA SWINTON.

SO NO, THE TITLE NINE COORDINATOR AND OUR DISTRICT IS NOT GOING TO SERVE AS AN INVESTIGATOR.

UM, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT, BUT I NEED TO TRY TO FIND OUT, UM, WHAT I NEED TO TRY TO FIND OUT IS HOW DO WE DO THIS? YOU KNOW, WITH THE BOARD BECAUSE YOU ALL CERTAINLY COULDN'T BE, HERE'S THE THING.

YOU'RE LIKE THE DECISION MAKER, RIGHT? YOU'RE THE DECISION MAKER.

AND HOW COULD YOU BE LIKE, YOU CAN'T BE AN INVESTIGATOR AND A DECISION MAKER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? RIGHT.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HOPING THIS LEGAL ADVICE ON PROPER PROCEDURE WOULD TELL US WHAT WE HAD TO DO, BECAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE WE'D HAVE TO BRING IN ANY IMPARTIAL THIRD PARTIES TO DO THAT KIND OF STUFF.

ALRIGHT.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS TINA ON? NO.

AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE OH NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

WE HAVE ON THIS THE BETTER.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS IS REMARKABLY LIKE THE PROCESS WE USED.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

BUT LOGICALLY THINKING IT THROUGH, THAT'S REALLY THE WAY YOU NEED TO GO.

YOU HAVE TO GET LEGAL ADVICE AND ALMOST KNOW WHAT THE TWO, AND AS WENDY POINTS OUT, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED NOW.

SO, UM, WE HAVE TO RECEIVE THE ADVICE AND THEN WE HAVE TO DECIDE BASED ON THAT ADVICE, WHAT TO DO AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS IT NOW, IF IT'S A FRIVOLOUS CLAIM, I MEAN, THAT YOU'D SPEAK TO YOUR ATTORNEY BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE ARE FRIVOLOUS CLAIMS THAT ARE FILED EXCEPT TO HAVE TO SHOW THAT IT'S FRIVOLOUS.

THAT'S WHY WE ADD THAT NUMBER THREE IN THERE, WHETHER YOU PURSUE OR NOT PURSUE.

SO HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY LEGAL ADVICE WOULD SAY THIS MEETS THE STANDARD OF BEING FRIVOLOUS, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PURSUE IT.

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ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO WE JUST PUT THE NUMBER ON THERE AND, AND THEN WE HAVE A WRAP ON THAT ONE.

YEAH.

AND THEN MR. I MEAN, BOARD BOARD MEMBERS, I CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE A REFERENCE AND I'LL MAKE, I'LL REFERENCE THIS, ALL THESE NEW REGS AND THEN WE'LL FIX IT.

OKAY.

SEND THEM ROBIN RAMEN, INSERT THEM IN AND WE'VE DONE.

WE'RE DONE.

THE NEXT THING IS AN EMPLOYEE GRIEVANCES REGARDING BOARD MEMBERS.

YEAH.

THAT'S OUR NEXT THING.

AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU WHY, WHEN I LOOKED THROUGH THIS, I COULDN'T SEE WHERE IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THEN THE SAME PRO DOES IT, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME PROCESS AS THE SUPERINTENDENT.

UM, I AGREE.

CAUSE OTHERWISE WE GET INTO, AND WHEN WE HAD THOSE GRIEVINGS COME UP, NONE OF US WANTED TO SERVE AS THE INVESTIGATOR, REMEMBER SOME OF THE OTHER POLICIES AND OTHER SCHOOLS DISTRICTS HAVE LIKE THE, UH, THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CHAIR MEETING WITH THE, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSON AND SAYING, OKAY, HOW CAN WE RESOLVE THIS TYPE THING? RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

AND THAT, AND THAT WAS THE ADVICE WE WERE GIVEN.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE WERE GIVEN.

AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO PICK UP ON THAT ONE.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS A SMART DECISION ON ALL OUR PARTS.

BUT AS FAR AS, UH, GETTING THIS POLICY FINISHED, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT.

SO ORIGINALLY WE SEPARATED THEM BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE DIFFERENCES.

AND THEN AFTER WE COMPLETED THEM, WE WOULD LOOK AND SEE IF, IF THEY WERE THE SAME.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED A SEPARATE B WOULD NOT APPLY THERE, BUT THAT CAUSE ACTION, THERE ARE BOARD MEMBERS WHERE WE DON'T MAKE THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS.

WELL, I, WE DO, IF THE, IF THE, UM, IF THE TEACHER APPEALS, THEN WE SERVE AS THE, AS THE, AS KIND OF THE JUDGE AND JURY, BUT WE ALSO DO IT WITH LEGAL ASSISTANCE.

WELL, OKAY.

SO WHAT ABOUT, UM, REGARDING COMPENSATION? I MEAN, WOULD THEY DO TEACHERS, UH, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD APPEAL, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET PLACED RIGHT CORRECTLY ON THE SALARY SCHEDULE OR THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE REVIEW IT, REVIEW THE BUDGET, SAY, OH, YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME ENOUGH OF A RAISE.

THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.

YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT MIGHT BE A GRIEVANCE.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, KATHY, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY HARM IN LEAVING THIS IN TO REMIND, TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THESE ARE NOT GRIEVANCES.

RIGHT.

UM, SO DO WE KEEP THE BOARD AS A SEPARATE ONE OR JUST ADD SUPERINTENDENT AND BOARD ON THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT? THAT IS THE QUESTION BEFORE US.

I DON'T SEE ANY REASON BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT'S SPECIFIC IN HERE.

UM, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO HAVE TWO OF THEM.

I THINK WE CAN JUST CHANGE THE TITLE TO REGARDING SUPERINTENDENT OR BOARD MEMBERS CAUSE OH, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE PURPOSE.

YEAH.

RICA, YOU JUST ADD IT IN THERE REGARDING THE SUPERINTENDENT OR BOARD MEMBERS.

UM, DID WE, I KNOW, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, UM, UH, ABOUT A FIFTH FORM THAT HAS TO BE FILLED OUT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THAT'S NOT A POLICY.

RIGHT.

BUT IT IS, THE FORM WILL HAVE TO BE CHANGED.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE IT HAS TO, IT HAS TO REFERENCE, UM, THE PROCESS, IF IT'S THE SUPERINTENDENT OR A BOARD MEMBER, IT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE DIFFERENT PROCESS ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT FORM.

BUT SO ONCE THE POLICY IS APPROVED, I THINK THEN WE GO BACK AND REQUEST THE FORM TO BE CHANGED.

IS THAT, IS THAT OKAY? YEAH.

YEAH.

NO, I DON'T TELL HIM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY GRIEVOUS FOR FUND EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT COMES UP WITH ITS STAFF OR THE SUPERINTENDENT.

I THINK THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THE AGREEMENTS ON EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO BE

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A BOARD MEMBER, UH, TRIED TO BULLY SOMEONE EVEN IN THEIR SCHOOLS OR TEACHER OR SOMEONE IN THE DISTRICT OFFICE ABOUT A SITUATION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO BASED ON HISTORY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO DO WE, DO WE AGREE? WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THIS ONE GC AND WE'LL JUST CHANGE THE TITLE.

YEAH.

I'M PRETTY SURE THE SUPERINTENDENT.

UM, AND, OR, OR, I MEAN, IT WOULDN'T BE AN ADD ON THE SUPERINTENDENT OR BOARD.

YEAH.

YOU WERE MEMBERS.

I THOUGHT BOARD MEMBERS.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN FILE A GRIEVANCE GRIEVANCE AGAINST THE FULL BOARD.

NO, I'M NOT.

I DON'T THINK SO.

THAT WOULD BE A LEGAL QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD COVER IT.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE CHANGE AND PER UPON THE PURPOSE PART WHERE YOU'VE ALREADY CHANGED THAT THERE LET'S JUST LOOK THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

SO OTHER REFERENCE WHERE IT JUST REFERENCED JUST THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL SAY OR BOARD, RIGHT? YEAH.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER SUPERINTENDENT IN HERE RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE OR PROPER PROCEDURE.

OH YEAH.

PROCESS TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OR BOARD MEMBER.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

AND NOT PURA.

CORRECT.

WE COULD JUST SAY DUE PROCESS AND THEN YEAH.

DUE PROCESS PERIOD.

YEAH.

NO, I WOULD COVER EVERYBODY AT IT.

THE BOARD CHAIR STILL DOES THE SAME THINGS.

YEAH.

AGAINST THE BOARD CHAIR WOULD BE THE VICE CHAIR.

CORRECT.

SO HERE ARE FOR KIND OF, BOTH OF THEM ARE NOT AVAILABLE.

IT WOULD BE THE SECRETARY.

YEAH.

UH, NUMBER FOUR, THE DECISION OF THE BOARD SHOULD BE FINAL AND BINDING ON ALL GRIEVANCES PERIOD, PERIOD.

YEAH.

AND SHIT, I LEAVE IT HIGHLIGHTED UNTIL WENDY GETS BACK WITH THE REFERENCE.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

ONCE SHE GIVES YOU THE REFERENCES, THEN WE CAN ALSO HIGHLIGHT THAT I CAN GET THAT FINISHED RIGHT AWAY.

OKAY.

EXCUSE ME.

OKAY.

WE'LL SEE.

ANYTHING ELSE? DO WE ALL, DO WE ALL AGREE? WE'RE DONE WITH THIS GIRL.

YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

GINA.

YOU'RE GOOD.

YEAH, IT LOOKS GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

THE NEXT STEP IS THE PROPOSED O E FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FOR DEPLOYMENT.

WE'VE SAVED THIS AND SUPERINTENDENT GRIEVANCE, AND THEN I MOVE THE OTHER OVER.

HERE WE GO WITH L E ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

YEAH, THERE IT IS.

I'M OBVIOUSLY PLEASED WITH IT SHORT, REALLY SHORT, SHORT AND SWEET.

UM, AND THESE ARE THE CLASSIC PROJECT MANAGEMENT MEASUREMENTS.

SO THIS IS CALLED CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.

WHAT'S THE TITLE OF THIS CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND MANAGEMENT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SCOPE, INTEGRITY TO THE BASELINE.

HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM PROJECT TIMELINE? THE PROJECT TIMELINE IS, IS A LISTING OF THE TASKS.

AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETE UNTIL THE FINISH SCOPE, INTEGRITY MEANS THAT THE PROJECT IS GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID UP FRONT.

YOU SAID, THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT IS IT'S GOING TO BE A NEW ROOF AND A NEW THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS THAT'S THE SCOPE.

OKAY.

SO IN A CLASSIC PROJECT MANAGEMENT MEASUREMENTS, WHAT YOU LOOK AT IS THE BUDGET ON TIME ON BUDGET AND THE ORIGINAL AND THE SCOPE IS COMPLETE BECAUSE SOME, YOU CAN BE ON TIME AND ON BUDGET, BUT YOU DIDN'T DO ALL THE WORKS.

SO THAT'S WHY IS KIND OF IMPORTANT.

YEAH.

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AND THIS IS THE REPORTS WE GET NOW DO THIS.

CAUSE YOU NOTICE THEY GIVE YOU THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

IT SHOWS YOU ARE PART OF YOUR ON TIME, ON YOU'RE ON BUDGET.

AND IF THERE'S ANY SCOPE CHANGES, THEY KNOW THEM.

RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE ALREADY, OUR CURRENT PROJECT MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION IS GIVING US THE EXACT KIND OF REPORTS THAT THIS IS ANTICIPATING.

OKAY.

NOW THE QUESTION MAY BE WHAT CONSTITUTES A PROJECT? UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND OUR, I CAN ANTICIPATE THE ROBERT MIGHT SAY, HEY, ARE THE SUMMER PROJECTS, ALL PROJECTS.

WE HAVE TO DO A REPORT LIKE THIS FOR EVERY SUMMER PROJECT, LIKE PAINTING, REPAINTING THE WALLS AND STUFF.

UM, AND THE RESPONSE WOULD BE, NO, YOU COULD LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER AS ONE PROJECT AND CALL IT SUMMER PROJECTS IF YOU WANT.

OR YOU COULD GIVE US ONE ON EVERY SINGLE ONE IF YOU WANT TO, BUT YOU CAN LUMP THEM ALL TOGETHER INTO ONE PROJECT.

ALSO.

THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I COULD ANTICIPATE.

SOME THINGS ARE JUST MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

AND THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE WORK THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS WHAT THEY SAY, HEY, THIS IS JUST MAINTENANCE.

IT'S NOT PROJECT.

WE DO THIS ALL THE TIME.

YEAH.

LIKE PAINTING, YOU WOULD SAY IS MORE MAINTENANCE THAN A CONSTRUCTION.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S CERT THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE WORK, WE'LL TELL YOU THAT.

YEAH.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE AND WILL TELL YOU.

YEAH.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON'T DO IT ON TIME.

SO WE DIDN'T REALLY NEED TO KNOW THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A PROJECT TIMELINE.

THAT'S THE CLASSIC TWO POSITIONS.

THEY'RE THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE WORK DON'T NEED PROJECT TIMELINES BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT THERE.

THEY KNEW ALL THE TASKS.

YEAH.

WE'LL GET IT DONE ON TIME.

AND THOSE PROJECTS ARE ALWAYS PERFECTLY ON BUDGET AND ON TIME UNTIL THE LAST TWO WEEKS, JUST LIKE WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A HOUSE THAT'S RIGHT.

THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

SO TERRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT ON BUDGET AND YOU'RE NOT ON TIME.

WELL, YES.

MA'AM, I'M GOING TO PUT THIS SLIDE, THIS O E OVER.

SO DO WE NEED TO SAY THE SUPERINTENDENT SHELL OR SHALL NOT ON THIS? YEAH.

SO YEAH.

THE BOARD WITH MONTHLY YUP.

STATUS OF THE CASE.

YEP.

THAT'S A GOOD OR ENSURE THE BOARD RECEIVES OR BEST TO SAY PROVIDE, I LIKE PROVIDE THAT'S SURE.

THE SUPERINTENDENT SHELL, UM, PROVIDE AND THEN YEAH.

MONTHLY STATUS UPDATES.

YOU'RE GOOD WITH DARA.

OH, HE'S ON THE PHONE.

HE'S ON THE PHONE FOR ME TO, UM, MAYBE HE'S DOING HIS VIRTUAL.

NO, WE NEED HIM TO SAY IT'S OKAY.

OR ELSE WE DON'T HAVE HER.

YEAH.

SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU, LET ME GO SO THAT OTHER, OH, HE LET ME GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE OTHER WAY.

OKAY.

SO THE, OH, HE THAT FOLLOWS THIS BEHIND.

DO WE WANT TO PUT THIS OR FIGHT OR WHAT'S A FINANCES AND IT WOULD CHANGE THE NUMBERING BECAUSE IT GOES, UM, ASSET PROTECTION, THE SEVEN FINANCE IS, THIS IS SIX AND FINANCE IS FIVE.

DOES IT NEED TO FIT IN THERE? BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT GOES AT THE END.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY CORRELATION THAT YOU WANT IT.

UM, IT'S NOT REALLY FINANCIAL AND IT'S NOT REALLY ASSET PROTECTION.

OKAY.

SO THEN AFTER THAT COMES COMMUNICATING WITH THE BOARD, THAT WOULD BE GOOD, I GUESS.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW.

I WONDER WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE UNDER THAT? SO PUT IT IN BETWEEN THE ASSET AND COMMUNICATING WITH THE BOARD.

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YEAH.

CAUSE AFTER THAT IS COMMUNICATING WITH THE PUBLIC AND THEN WE HAVE INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM, IT LOOKING AT WHERE IT WOULD FALL TO ME.

I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE DO IT LIKE BETWEEN COMMUNICATING AND ASSET PROTECTION AND THEN JUST CHANGE THE NUMBERS OF THE OTHER.

YEP.

I'M WITH YOU ON THAT.

YEP.

I AGREE.

OKAY.

WE GOT TO ROLL BACK.

OKAY.

UM, AND WHERE IN THE US, MY OTHER SUGGESTION.

SO EACH ONE OF THE OLD, HE STARTS OFF THE SUPERINTENDENT SHELL OR THE SUPERINTENDENT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

SURE.

SHALL ENSURE.

SO WITH THAT, THE SUPERINTENDENT SHELL PROVIDE, AND THEN WE STARTED WITH MONTHLY STATUS REPORT OR ARE WE JUST HAVE ONE STATEMENT OR JUST HAVE THAT AS THE STATEMENT AND NOT HAVE A WELL, TO BE CONSISTENT, IT WOULD SAY THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL AND THEN PROVIDE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH WOULD BE, WOULD BE THE NEXT PART.

RIGHT.

WE SHOULD PUT JUST EVERYONE, EVERY PLACE ELSE.

IT SAYS, ENSURE THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE SUPERINTENDENT SHELL.

SURE.

OKAY.

BOARD THAT THE BOARD IS FULLY INFORMED ABOUT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND THEN PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR NO, NO.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY MONTHLY STATUS UPDATES.

THOSE ARE KEY WORDS.

I WAS RIGHT.

AND I WAS GOING TO DO WE NEED, IF WE LOOKED AT WHAT, THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE AND THE OTHER ONES, THERE'S A LITTLE STATEMENT.

AND THEN IT SAYS THE SUPERINTENDENT CHOW.

SO WE COULD SAY THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL ENSURE THAT THE BOARD IS FULLY INFORMED REGARDING CONSTRUCT SHIN PROJECTS, PERIOD.

THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? ALRIGHT, SOUNDS GREAT.

GO AHEAD.

YOU'RE OKAY.

I'M WITH YOU.

THAT'S GOOD.

LET ME GO BACK.

UM, THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL ASSURE THAT THE BOARD BOARD IS FULLY INFORMED REGARDING STRUCTURE PROJECTS, THE STRUCTURE PROJECTS, AND THEN THE SUPERINTENDENT SHALL ENSURE, SHALL PROVIDE FAIR.

WE COULD PUT, PROVIDE, PROVIDE, PROVIDES YOU TO GO DOWN IN THE NEXT SECTION THERE, PROVIDE, OKAY.

PROVIDE YOU GO IN FRONT OF ME.

THERE YOU GO.

COME ON.

OKAY.

THIS IS SO COOL.

HOW WE CAN SEE EVERY MISTAKE YOU MAKE.

OKAY.

WE'RE NOT ACCOUNTING CAUSE YOU'RE SO FAST.

WE CAN'T COUNT OR MAKE MISTAKES.

HEY, YES.

MA'AM THAT'S THE REASSURING PART.

SO IS THAT FINE? I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

ARE ALL YOU'RE GOOD WITH? THAT'S FINE.

ALL RIGHT.

I CAN CROSS THAT OFF THE LIST.

YEAH.

AND I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE NUMBERS AND FIT IT IN, UM, AFTER ASSETS.

YUP.

SURE.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE ARE THEN DONE WITH THE POLICY PART AND UH, WE WERE PRETTY EFFICIENT ABOUT THAT.

DO YOU WANT TO, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THE REGGIE MURPHY STUFF? SURE.

YOU OKAY.

PROCUREMENT CODE REFERENCES.

OOH.

YOU KNOW, I READ THROUGH THIS AND I THOUGHT WE SHOULD JUST INCORPORATE THIS WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE THING AND THE, AN BULK ORDER, OR JUST PUT A GENERAL STATEMENT SAYING WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL RESPONSIBILITIES OUTLINED IN THE PROCUREMENT CODE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I WOULD MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THAT AND THEN, UH, JUST SAY, SEE ATTACHED OR I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

THIS IS A LOT TO PUT IN THE HANDBOOK, BUT ONCE IT CAN BOOK YEAH.

IT'S ELECTRONIC AND IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT CHANGE.

RIGHT.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE WAY WE CAN PUT THIS, BUT THIS WHOLE

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THING IN THERE, TINA HAS A QUESTION.

YES.

MA'AM SO RIGHT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS WHOLE, UM, HOW HOWEVER MANY PAGES IT GETS 27 PAGES.

AND THEN ALSO WOULD THERE ALSO BE AN ELECTRONIC VERSION OF THE PROCUREMENT CODE ITSELF? WE CAN LINK, WE CAN LINK BECAUSE THE PROCUREMENT CODE IS ON.

YOU MEAN THE BOOKLET OR THE CODE THAT THE PAGE IS REFERENCING.

YEAH.

LIKE THE, THE, EXACTLY THE, THE PROCUREMENT CODE, THAT PAGE IT'S REFERENCING.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LIKE A LINK TO THE WHOLE PROCUREMENT CODE.

WE CAN LINK THE WHOLE PROCUREMENT CODE OR YOU CAN LINK BECAUSE WHAT I'VE DONE, THIS, I'VE TAKEN THE PROCUREMENT CODE THAT EACH PAGE REFERENCE AND ALL OF THIS IS IN THAT ONE DOCUMENT.

SO IT'S HOWEVER YOU ALL WANT TO, YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE LINKING TO THE FULL PERFORMANCE CODE WOULD SERVE ANY PURPOSE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO OUTLINE THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITIES.

SO I CAN FORMAT THE, THE ACTUAL PROCUREMENT CODE BECAUSE ALL I DID WAS COPY AND PASTE.

SO I CAN, UM, THE WAY IT IS IN THE PROCUREMENT CODE FOR FORMATTING PURPOSES, I CAN DO THAT UNDER EACH OF THE PAGE THAT THIS IS REFERENCING.

SO I CAN FIX THE FORMATTING OF EACH OF THESE, THE BEST, WHAT YOU WANT.

AND YOU CAN LINK THE WHOLE, WE CAN LINK THE WHOLE DOCUMENT THAT I DID.

CAN YOU, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, ROBIN, BUT I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING, WHAT YOU MEAN? UM, SO ON PAGE, UH, THE FIRST ONE, THIS ONE ON PAGE SEVEN, THIS IS WHAT WAS ON PAGE.

THIS IS THE DOCUMENT ON PAGE SEVEN IN THE PROCUREMENT CODE.

SO IT GOES LIKE ONE, TWO, THREE, BUT I CAN REFORMAT IT.

SO ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE LINED UP AND ADJUST THE FORMATTING TO MAKE IT EASIER TO READ BECAUSE IT HAS FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, THESE NEED TO BE LINED UP.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I, I, UH, THINK THAT IT WOULD EASIER, THE EASIEST THING TO DO WOULD BE TO TAKE THIS, UH, THING THAT WE GOT FROM REGGIE MURPHY.

AND INSTEAD OF TYPING IT ALL OUT, ADDING WHAT THAT WORK THAT YOU DID, ROBIN, COULD YOU JUST PUT A LINK AFTER WHAT REGGIE TO SOME PEOPLE COULD CLICK ON THAT AND THEN LIKE PAGE 10 BOARD MEANS THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF BUFORD COUNTY SCHOOLS.

I MEAN, THAT CAN'T BE, IS THEIR CAMPAIGN ANYTHING ELSE IN THEIR CANDIDATE? YEAH.

SEE, IT'S ALL OF THAT.

CORRECT.

I MEAN, I WOULD JUST PUT WHEN ANYBODY READS, I MEAN, OH YEAH.

AND IT'S ENTHUSIASTIC, NEW BOARD MEMBER WOULD READ IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, I, TO ME BOARD NEEDS BOARD OF EDUCATION OF DUPER COUNTY SCHOOLS.

UM, AND JUST LINK THE PAGE TO EACH DOCUMENT INSTEAD OF HAVING ALL OF THIS ARTICLE FOR ONE, CAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT DOCUMENT.

THAT'S, I'M JUST ONE PERSON.

THAT'S MY IDEA, BECAUSE I THINK THIS WAY, THIS IS IT'S VERY OVERWHELMING AND THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ONE OF THOSE AREAS, YOU'RE GOING TO GO FIND IT.

RIGHT.

BUT THIS IS GOING TO THE HANDBOOK, CORRECT HANDBOOK.

SO I'M NOT SURE I HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT IN THE HIGHLIGHTED THINGS BASICALLY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I GOT YOU.

HI.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE TAKE THIS PART THAT HIGHLIGHT IT AND THEN I WOULD JUST PUT, I WOULD JUST BLINK ALL THIS INFORMATION WOULD BE ONE LINK.

SO I WOULDN'T LINK IT TO THE PAGE THAT I GOT ALL THIS INFORMATION FROM.

GOTCHA.

I WOULD SAY I WOULD MUCH CLEANER, MUCH PAGE 11 AND LINK ALL OF THIS TO PAY AND THIS WOULD GO TO PAGE 11.

RIGHT? SO WHAT'S IN THAT HANDBOOK IS EVERYTHING THAT'S BOLDED, BOTH DID STATEMENTS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT BOLDED STATEMENT, THERE'S A LINK THAT YOU CAN GO TO FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.

AND THAT LINK IS THE ORIGINAL SOURCE.

YEAH.

THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE

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JUNK MEANS, UM, DISTRICT OWN SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, REMAINING USEFUL LIFE.

YOU COULD GET THAT OUT OF THAT ORIGINAL DOCUMENT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

NEVER HEARD, REFERRED TO AS JUNK BEFORE.

PERFECT.

CALLED DEPLETED ASSETS OF ALL THESE REALLY NICE SOUNDING THINGS.

YEAH.

SO THAT WILL MAKE THIS MUCH, UH, YEAH.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO WE'LL JUST ATTACH THAT INTO THE HANDBOOK, TO THE HANDBOOK AND I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, GET MORE FACE TIME.

PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE MORE TIME TO, I AGREE.

I AGREE.

NOW IN THE HANDBOOK, DO WE HAVE A SECTION ON BOARD RESPONSIBILITIES? I THINK WE DO.

UM, CAUSE THIS WOULD GO RIGHT ON WITH THAT.

YEAH.

DIDN'T WE HAVE THAT AS PART OF, UM, CAUSE THE SOUTH CAROLINA SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATED TRAFFIC, THEY HAD A, WE WERE LOOKING WELL AT THE LAST MEETING.

WE DECIDED NOT TO USE THOSE SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION AND TO JUST USE STATE STATUTE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD ASSOCIATION YEAH.

FORMATION OR THE HANDBOOK, UM, RIGHT UNDER RESPONSIBILITIES, I GUESS WE COULD PUT THIS POLICIES BOARD.

LET'S SEE.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHERE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS TO BE ADDED.

SO ROLE A RESPONSIVE BOARD MEMBERS, THE GUIDING PRINCIPLE OF COHERENCE.

THIS WOULD BE UNDER GIRLS AND RESPONSIBILITIES, RIGHT? SUBSECTION.

YUP.

SO WHAT DO WE WANT TO CALL IT? UM, RELATIVE TO PROCUREMENT.

UM, YEAH, BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO PUTTING IN THE STATE STATUTES, RIGHT? STATE, STATE, YEAH.

SECTION 59 69.

YOU NEED A T AND AFTER YOU, YOU ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

IS THAT GOOD FOR THAT SECTION FOR THEIR ORDER? YOU'D WANT IT IN, I DON'T KNOW.

I'D WANT IT REVERSED, BUT REVERSE FIRST AND THEN YEAH.

YEAH.

COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH TITLE 59 AND TRY TO FIND EVERY STATUTE THAT REPRESENTS FOUR DUTIES? LIKE THEY'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT THERE'S OTHER STATUTES THROUGHOUT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT OR NOT, BUT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING EARLIER, UM, ABOUT BREACH OF CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE, WHEN THE BOARD APPROVES THE RESIGNATION, WHICH RELEASES A TEACHER FROM THE CONTRACT, THAT KIND OF THING.

THAT'S A STATUTE I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

THAT'S NOT UNDER POWERS AND DUTIES OF BOARDS OF TRUSTEES.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT ME TO DO OR NOT.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, IT SOUNDS KIND OF ARDUOUS TO ME.

I KNOW LIKE RIGHT NOW IS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN THE THROWS OF MANY ISSUES INVOLVING, YOU KNOW, COLBERT AND RIGHT.

AND HEALTH AND OUR CHILDREN AND OUR STAFF.

I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR NOW PUT IN SECTION 59 CHAPTER, 19 CHAPTER 19, THAT EVERYTHING IT'S ALL ABOUT SCHOOL TRUSTEES.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S GOOD.

MS. ROBOT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I DID FIND IN ONE OF THESE OTHERS WHERE IT DEFINED, UM, I D I FOUND THE DEFINITION OF A TEACHER AND A TEACHER IS DEFINED AS ANYONE WHO TEACHES STUDENTS OR ANYONE WHO SUPERVISES THOSE THAT TEACH THE STUDENTS I'LL BE DARNED, WHICH STATUTE IS THAT? MISS ROBOT? IT'S UNDER THE DEFINITIONS.

I'LL GO BACK AND I'LL SAY, WELL, RIGHT NOW, ANYONE WHO WAS SUPERVISED AS A TEACHER.

SO THAT'S COVERS OUR PRINCIPALS THERE.

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YES.

I'LL HAVE TO FIND IT AGAIN.

BUT YEAH, I CAN'T BELIEVE OUR ATTORNEYS DID KNOW THAT THERE'S SO MUCH I DON'T MR. STORAGE EVERY DAY, I REALIZE HOW LITTLE I KNOW AND HOW MUCH I NEED TO, I NEED TO LIKE BE STUDYING TITLE 59.

NO, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ATTORNEYS THAT ARE ON THE BOARD.

UM, AND THEN I'M GOING TO INSIDE JOKE TO CINA.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DUNNING KRUGER.

WENDY, WENDY HAS ENOUGH EXPERTISE TO KNOW.

YUP, EXACTLY.

WHEREAS THE BOARD MEMBERS OVERESTIMATE, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT, UH, 59 19 THIS MORNING TO SEE IF I CAN DETERMINE WHO WAS THE, UH, CUSTODIAN OF THE EMPLOYMENT RECORDS OF THE TEACHERS.

I COULDN'T FIND IT.

BUT, UM, I DID ALSO, I THOUGHT I FOUND A DEFINITION OF TEACHER IS JUST, IT REALLY WAS, UH, SOMEBODY WHO WAS CERTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND SECTION 59, ONE, ONE 30 TEACHER DEFINED FOR MEANS ANY PERSON WHO IS EMPLOYED EITHER FULL TIME OR PART TIME MY, ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT, EITHER TO TEACH OR TO SUPERVISE TEACHING AND YEAH.

TO ANSWER YOUR THING, TINA I'VE FOUND SEVERAL CONTRADICTIONS IN THE STATE STATUTE WHERE IT SAYS ONE THING IN ONE PLACE AND SOMETHING ELSE IN IT IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, NOT 59, 19 HAS A COUPLE OF CONTRADICTIONS IN IT.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHY THE, THEY HAD TO DO A REVISION OF THE STATUTE BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE GRADUATES ARE, ARE SO OLD AND THEY'RE OUTDATED NOW.

SO YEAH.

YEAH.

THE ONES REFERRING TO THE FIREPLACES IN THE CLASSROOMS. RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND I ALSO SAW THIS MORNING, IT WAS 50 CENTS FOR YOU TO GET A REPLACEMENT TEACHING CERTIFICATE.

OKAY.

SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THE MURPHY STUFF.

AND WE HAVE BASICALLY FINISHED ALL OUR TASKS.

THAT'S EXCELLENT.

GREAT.

IT IS EXCELLENT.

NOW I'M ASSUMING THAT WE WANT BASED ON PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY WANT TO, UH, PLAIN COPY FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

I HAVE A CLEAN COPY AND WE'LL ALL LOOK THROUGH IT.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE IF WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER AGAIN, TO GO THROUGH IT, OR IF WE CAN JUST DO CORRECTIONS VIA EMAIL.

HOW'S THAT SOUND SOUNDS GOOD.

CAN YOU AND I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU LIKE MISS, UH, DR.

RODRIGUEZ, LIKE HE'LL NEED TO REVIEW ALL THOSE L EASE WITH THE STAFF AND EVERYTHING TO THEM.

WELL, YEAH.

WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM TO HIM BECAUSE HE HAS TO DEFINE WHAT THE MEASUREMENTS ARE AND AS TO AGREE TO THEM.

SO THE QUESTION WAS, CAN WE GIVE THOSE TO HIM BEFORE THE BOARD APPROVES? UM, OR DO WE NEED THE BOARD TO APPROVE IT FIRST? WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE.

I KNOW.

UM, MY, MY GUT FEELING SAYS WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO THEM AHEAD OF TIME.

IT'S PROFESSIONAL COURTESY.

SO THEN HE NEEDS TO GIVE YOU THE MEASUREMENTS, THE OBJECTIVE MEASURABLE AND LIKE THE TIME, LIKE WHEN IT HAS TO BE COMPLETED, LIKE, IS IT A SIX MONTH THAT'S THREE MONTHS OR IS THAT AN ANNUAL? ALL RIGHT.

YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK PLAN OR THE ANNUAL WORK PLAN, BUT OKAY.

THAT IS THE ANNUAL WORK PLAN IN AUGUST, MR. .

I BELIEVE SO, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIVE THAT THIS YEAR DUE TO COVID AND, AND THIS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIVE THAT.

UM, THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, WENDY IS IF WE GIVE IT TO THEM AHEAD OF TIME, YOU CAN ANTICIPATE, UM, SOME BLOWBACK FROM THE FULL BOARD, UM, ON GIVING HIM STUFF BEFORE THE BOARD APPROVED IT, YOU KNOW, YADA, YADA, YADA, OR MAYBE, MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD AND DR.

REGUS AND YOU ALL TALK TOGETHER ABOUT MEASUREMENT.

I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS EITHER.

UH, I WAS THINKING, I WOULD SAY, WELL, COMPROMISED MIGHT BE AT THE FIRST READING.

WE COULD GET THE BOARD TO AGREE TO GIVE THEM TO HIM.

THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.

YEAH.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

YES.

WE WANT TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.

WELL, YEAH.

AND HE'S GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, RIGHT.

VERIFYING YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER.

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WILLIAM, IS THIS YOUR NUMBER FOUR FOR ONE 49? YEAH.

ASKED HIM.

OKAY.

JUST VERIFYING.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'LL PROCEED.

I THINK WE'RE DONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PROUD OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE ON THIS.

GOOD JOB.

THANKS.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.