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EVERYBODY.WELCOME TO PUBLIC FACILITIES MEETING.
I APOLOGIZE, BEING 23 MINUTES LATE, MARK LAWSON WENT BEFORE ME.
IT'S HIS FAULT,
UM, WITH THAT SAID, IF YOU COULD STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER UNDER GOD, JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, SARAH, ARE WE COMPLIANT WITH FOIA? YES, WE ARE.
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA PLEASE.ANY OBJECTION TO APPROVE OF THE AGENDA? THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OVER TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 17TH AND AUGUST 20 OR SEPTEMBER 21ST.ANY DISCUSSION? CAN THIS BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION.
MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT DID NOT SIGN UP THAT WANTED TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHTY.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
[7.a. Event Communication: Creep on Composting]
MOVE ON TO NUMBER SEVEN.UH, JAR WILL KICK THIS OFF FOR US, THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT.
WE HAVE A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS TO GO OVER.
SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.
I'M GONNA SHARE THE FLOOR A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT FIRST IS AN EVENT UPCOMING AND THEN, UM, AN AWARD AND THEN SOME RESULTS ON ALL JOY STUDY, UH, AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
SO BRADLEY HART, HE'LL COME UP HERE AND SHARE ABOUT SOLID WASTE EVENT.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR COMMITTEE.
UM, SORRY, MS. HOFFMAN WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT.
SHE'D BE MORE EXCITING TO TALK ABOUT THIS THAN I WOULD.
UM, SO I'LL GIVE YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
SO THERE IS AN EVENT COMING UP THAT SHE WE'RE TRYING TO SPREAD THE WORD FOR.
UM, THIS IS OUR KIND OF FIRST ANNUAL THEY'RE CALLING A CREEP ON COMPOSTING.
THIS IS FOR A PUMPKIN, UM, RECYCLING.
SO WE GO FOR OUR COM TAKE TO OUR COMPOSTER.
UM, SHE HAD A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK ON.
UM, CREEP ON S OUR FIRST ANNUAL PUMPKIN COMPOSTING EVENT.
UM, SHE SAID, HONESTLY, IT'S A DREAM COME TRUE.
SO I'M TRYING TO TALK IN, IN VICTORIA'S MINDSET.
UM, MISS LIBBY BERGMAN IS OUR EDUCATOR.
UM, SHE'S DOING A FANTASTIC JOB ORGANIZING THE EVENT.
SHE'S PUTTING A LOT OF WORK INTO IT.
UM, IT'LL BE, IT'S POSTED ONLINE, SOCIAL MEDIA, EVERYWHERE.
UM, THERE'LL BE FACE PAINTING, TOUCH A TRUCK.
UM, SO ALL, ALL KINDS OF GOOD STUFF.
UM, KIDDOS CAN BRING THEIR COSTUMES, UH, LIKE USED COSTUME THEY DON'T WANNA USE ANYMORE.
THEY CAN BRING THEM IN, UH, YOU KNOW, RECYCLE 'EM.
UM, WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING FOR THAT.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, OH, VICTORIA, WANT ME TO SAY ONE MORE THING? SO SHE WANTS TO KNOW IF ANYBODY COULD APPROVE OR Y'ALL COULD APPROVE A PUMPKIN CHUNKING CATAPULT.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE COULD APPROVE THAT OR NOT.
IS THAT SHE'D LIKE, WANTS CATAPULT.
SHE WANTS TO CATAPULT PUMPKINS.
I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE THE AREA TO DO IT OR NOT, BUT ANYHOW, CAN ASK.
SHE JUST ASKED TO THROW IT OUT THERE.
TALKING ABOUT FINANCE EARLY AND ALL THAT BORING STUFF.
SO WE WANNA TALK ABOUT SOMETHING FUN CHUNK AND PUMPKIN SOUNDS FUNNY.
SO ANYHOW, CAN YOU BUILD ONE? AND THEN ONE OF REQUEST SHE HAD FOR COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL IS IF WE COULD TURN THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, ADMINISTRATION BUILDING INTO A HAUNTED HOUSE FOR THE PUBLIC.
NOT SURE IF IT WAS SHE WANTED ME TO ASK ANYHOW.
UH, JUST WANTED TO THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE.
NOVEMBER 7TH, 10 TO ONE AT BURTON WELLS.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE THAT I'LL SAY THIS, BRADLEY, THANK YOU.
TOLD YOU BEFORE WE CAN CLEAR A LAND OUT AND A COUPLE CASES OF BEER AND SOME GUYS WITH SOME TRUCKS.
I BET YOU I WE PROBABLY COULD.
SUN CITY WOOD WORKERS DEFINITELY COULD HAPPEN.
WE NEXT I FORGOT THE AWARD FOR KELLY ON THE NEXT ONE.
AND VICTORIA SAID SHE'S, SHE'S WATCHING TO MAKE SURE I SAID THAT SO I DIDN'T SAY THAT SHE WAS QUESTION.
[7.b. SC Litter Association: Litter Award]
UM, NEXT ITEM IS, UH, CAROLINA LITTER ASSOCIATION LITTER AWARD.UM, MS. KELLY HOL JACK, UM, RECEIVED THIS.
SHE IS OUR LITTER CONTROL SUPERVISOR.
UM, SHE'S BEEN ON THE JOB 10 MONTHS IN HER POSITION AND SHE HAS ABSOLUTELY TRANSFORMED THAT PROGRAM.
UM, DONE A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB, UM, BEING ON THE JOB 10 MONTHS AND TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD.
THEY DON'T JUST GET PALMETTO PRIDE DOESN'T JUST GET HAND THESE AWARDS OUT.
UM, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PRETTY SPECIAL.
UM, SHE'S ALREADY RECEIVED THE AWARD, BUT WE JUST KINDA FORMALLY DO IT IN FRONT OF COMMITTEE.
BUT WANNA CALL MS. KELLY UP AND PRESENT THIS AWARD TO HER.
SHE'S ALREADY UP
THIS IS ONE OF OUR LITTER CONTROL, UH, UH, WORKERS.
AND ALSO MS. KELLY HAS HER SON AND DAR IN-LAW AND A BRAND NEW BABY HERE
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TO, UM, WELCOME HIM AS WELL.SO, MS. KELLY, ON BEHALF OF, UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY AND LIT CONTROL, THIS IS YOUR AWARD.
I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED, BUT WE JUST WANNA MAKE IT FORMAL.
TAKE A PICTURE, UH, BRING THE GRANDCHILDREN UP TOO.
YEAH, BRING YOUR WHOLE FAMILY UP.
OH, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY
[7.c. Alljoy Drainage Study Results (for information only)]
AFTERNOON CHAIR AND COMMITTEE.THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY.
UM, TODAY I HAVE WITH US OUR CONSULTANT FROM SEMEN WHITESIDE, UM, RYAN PHILLIPS.
HE'S BEEN COMPLETING THE ALL JOY DRAINAGE STUDY.
UM, WE ARE NOW MOSTLY COMPLETE.
WE HAVE TO SAY THAT THE REPORT IS STILL IN DRAFT FORM BECAUSE IT'S UNDER REVIEW BY THE RIA.
UH, ONCE WE GET THAT REPORT BACK, WE'LL INCORPORATE THEIR, UH, CHANGES AND EDITS INTO THAT AND THEN WE'LL BE COMPLETE.
SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RYAN AND LET HIM, UH, GO OVER WHAT WE FOUND IN THE DRAINAGE STUDY.
UH, I WILL TRY TO BE SHORT AND NOT OVERCOMPLICATE THIS.
SO, UM, AGAIN, RYAN PHILLIPS HERE WITH SEA WHITESIDE, GLAD TO BE WITH YOU HERE.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ALL JOY DRAINAGE STUDY.
SO I'M GONNA COVER THE FULL PICTURE, BUT WE WON'T GO TOO FAR INTO THE WEEDS TO BORE ANYONE.
SO TODAY I'LL JUST QUICKLY HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE GOALS, WHAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT.
UM, THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, WHAT WE ACTUALLY DID AND WHAT THE BEAUFORT COUNTY PAID FOR.
UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, THERE'S A BIG WATER QUALITY PIECE OF THIS AREA.
BEAUFORT, JASPER'S DOING A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER.
SO I WANTED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN REALLY WE BROKE IT UP INTO A LONG-TERM SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS, MORE OF A 50 YEAR PLANNING HORIZON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY WITH, WITH ALL THE THINGS HAPPENING ON THE COAST? AND THEN ALSO WHAT CAN WE DO IMMEDIATELY IN ORDER TO FIX THE PROBLEMS. NEXT SLIDE.
SO AGAIN, A LITTLE BACKGROUND, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE.
UH, LOW LYING AREA AND ALL JOY ALONG THE, ALONG THE MAY RIVER, BUT ACTUALLY A LOT OF THE AREAS ON A BLUFF.
AND THIS AREA'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE ABOUT HALF OF THE ROADS ARE DOT.
A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES WE COME TO AND WE DO DRAINAGE STUDIES.
UH, MOST OF THE ROADS ARE DOT, UM, AND THERE'S REALLY A LOT OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
UH, THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
IT'S ABOUT 50 50 COUNTY VERSUS DOT.
BUT AGAIN, OUR GOAL WAS TO COME IN, DO A FULL DRAINAGE SYSTEM ASSESSMENT, LOOKING BOTH AT FLOODING AS WELL AS WATER QUALITY, COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN HELP GUIDE YOU INTO THE FUTURE.
ALRIGHT, SO THE DRAINAGE ANALYSIS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CAME INTO THIS AREA, THERE WASN'T REALLY A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION ON WHAT WAS THERE.
SO THE FIRST THING WE DID, WE SENT ALL OF OUR ENGINEERS OUT, BOOTS ON THE GROUND, PHYSICALLY TOUCHED ANY AND ALL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE COULD FIND.
PHOTO DOCUMENTED IT SURVEYED IT, TAGGED THE CONDITIONS OF IT.
WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GIVE THAT DATA BACK TO TAYLOR AND HER CREWS SO THAT THE COUNTY HAD A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT KIND OF INFRASTRUCTURE WAS OUT THERE.
UM, THIS IS JUST A QUICK GRAPHIC JUST SHOWING SOME OF THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE STATE OF IT.
AND THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE WHEN WE COME IN AND ACTUALLY AN ANALYZE THE DRAINAGE, WE WANNA LOOK AT MAINTENANCE FIRST.
YOU KNOW, CAN YOU ACTUALLY DO MAINTENANCE AND FIX A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS VERSUS PUMPING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO NEW INFRASTRUCTURE? NEXT SLIDE.
UH, SO ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO GET BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND ACTUALLY SEE WHAT WAS THERE, WHAT WAS THE CONDITIONS OF IT, THAT'S WHEN WE REALLY STARTED LOOKING AT ANALYZING THE CAPACITY OF THE SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, HOW HOW MUCH FLOW CAN THE PIPES HANDLE WHEN THOSE PIPES ARE OVERWHELMED DURING HEAVY HURRICANE EVENTS? WHERE DOES THAT WATER SPILL OUT AND FLOOD POTENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND THE BIG THING THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT WAS NOT JUST FLOODING TODAY, BUT ALSO FLOODING IN 50 YEARS.
SO ACCOUNTING FOR SEA LEVEL RISE, FUTURE CHANGES IN RAINFALL, ALL OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET A GOOD PICTURE OF WHAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT AND IF THAT SOLUTION WILL WORK 50 YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE AREAS ON SEPTIC,
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UH, BUT WE DID GO OUT WITH A TEAM, UM, FROM OUR STAFF AS WELL AS THE COUNTY.WE DID A WALK THE WATERSHED EVENT.
AND REALLY THAT'S FANCY WORD FOR WE JUST LITERALLY WALKED AROUND THE ENTIRE STUDY AREA, MET WITH RESIDENTS, TALKED WITH THEM, TRIED TO GET A HANDLE ON WHAT WAS WHAT THEY THOUGHT THE PROBLEM IS, WHAT WE THINK THE PROBLEM IS.
AND REALLY WHAT WE CAME DOWN TO IS, THERE'S TWO MAIN ISSUES.
ONE IS THERE'S A LOT OF SEPTIC AND THE, AND A LOT OF THE SEPTIC IS IN THE LOW LYING AREAS.
LUCKILY BEAUFORT, JASPER IS WORKING ON THAT PIECE OF THE PUZZLE AT THE TIME.
AND THEN THE OTHER ISSUE IS JUST DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OF THE DRAINAGE AND THAT AREA DOESN'T, YOU HAVE WATER STANDS THERE AND ROADSIDE DITCHES DURING THE HOT WEATHER.
YOU GET ALGAE, YOU GET BACTERIA GROWING.
AND SO REALLY IF YOU CAN CONVERT FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT DRAINAGE MOVING SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN JUST SITTING THERE, THAT SHOULD FIX A LOT OF WATER QUALITY PROBLEMS. NEXT SLIDE.
FOR RECOMMENDATIONS, LIKE I SAID, WE LOOKED AT LONG TERM RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS SHORT TERM.
AND THE BIG PICTURE THAT WE STARTED WITH WAS MAINTENANCE FIRST, THEN ACTUAL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
IT'S EASIER FOR THE COUNTY TO COME IN AND CLEAN DITCHES THAN IT IS TO SPEND $50 MILLION FIXING DRAINAGE.
UH, WE LOOKED AT OUTFALL IMPROVEMENTS, A LOT OF THE DRAINS TO THE MARSH, SO ALL THAT SEDIMENT AND DEBRIS FROM HURRICANES COMES IN AND IT CAN CLOG THOSE OUTFALLS, CLEANING THOSE OUT.
AND THEN WE LOOKED AT TRADITIONAL DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONAL PIPING INLETS, CULVERT UPGRADES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND WE ALSO DID CONSIDER GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF THE GRANT THAT THE COUNTY WON.
AND THEN THE BIG THING WE DID, WE TRIED TO BREAK THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS UP INTO MORE MANAGEABLE CHUNKS, BOTH FINANCIALLY AND GEOGRAPHICALLY.
AND ALSO INCLUDE THE COST OF ENGINEERING PERMITTING.
THAT WAY YOU GET A FULL IMPLEMENTATION COST.
THAT WAY WHEN YOU START PULLING THINGS OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE REPORT, YOU ACTUALLY KNOW A FULL BUDGET DESIGNED THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.
ALRIGHT, SO THREE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THE LONG-TERM IMPROVEMENTS.
THE FIRST WAS JUST TRADITIONAL DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON MOST OF YOUR DOT ROADS.
PIPING COLLECTION SYSTEMS. UH, CHECK VALVES IN LOW LYING AREAS JUST SO THE TIDE DOESN'T COME IN, COME INLAND AND FLOOD FOLKS.
AND SO REALLY THAT WAS PRETTY BASIC DRAINAGE, EASY TO MAINTAIN.
UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY TRIED INTRUDE, UM, BUT A LOT LESS GREEN IF YOU WILL.
THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS PUSHING FOR GAINING INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE DID INCLUDE SOME WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS WHERE IT MADE SENSE THAT WOULD NOT CAUSE A LOT OF MAINTENANCE BURDEN FOR THE COUNTY.
THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE WE LOOKED AT WAS, UH, THE TRADITIONAL DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS WITH SOME GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE ADDED ON IT THAT WOULD HELP MAYBE WITH WATER QUALITY.
BUT THIS AREA IS SO LOW THERE'S, WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO A LOT OF IT WAS JUST BIOSWELLS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UH, AND THAT JUST BUILT ON ALTERNATIVE ONE.
ALTERNATIVE THREE WAS MAINTENANCE ONLY.
IF THE COUNTY CAME IN AND LITERALLY ONLY CLEANED OUT DITCHES, CLEANED OUT THE PIPES, DID THE BARE MINIMUM, WHAT WOULD WE GET? AND THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF OUR FOLKS TO GET OUT THERE IN THE FIELD AND SEE WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITION IS.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU MAY BE ABLE TO JUST MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF IT IS DOT, SIMPLY CLEANING THOSE PIPES OUT MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIX A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT EXISTING ON THE LEFT, PROPOSED ON THE RIGHT.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A HANDLE ON IF YOU WERE TO IMPLEMENT IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE, UM, A LOT OF OUR GRAPHICS, IF YOU WANNA READ THE REPORT, SUPER EASY TO SEE.
WHERE IS FLOODING TODAY? IF YOU IMPLEMENT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WHERE IS FLOODING IN THE FUTURE? NEXT SLIDE.
ALRIGHT, SO ONCE WE HAD THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TESTED THE ALTERNATIVES, WE PLUGGED THEM IN A COMPUTER MODEL.
WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH FLOODING WE CAN MITIGATE AS WELL AS HOW MUCH COST THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE.
THEN WE CAME UP WITH A STRATEGY TO PRIORITIZE.
AND OUR STRATEGY WAS LOOKING AT HOW MUCH FLOODING CAN WE PHYSICALLY GET RID OF? YOU KNOW, HOW MANY BUILDINGS OR PROPERTIES CAN WE MITIGATE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FLOODED HAD YOU NOT IMPLEMENTED IMPROVEMENTS.
SO YOU KNOW, FIRE SAFETY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE LESS ROADS WE HAVE FLOODED, THE BETTER PUBLIC ACCESS WE CAN GET FOR EMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN OVERALL, WHAT'S THE COST PER UNIT FLOOD REDUCTION? YOU KNOW, WHAT GIVES YOU THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK? AND THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY BUILD A LITTLE, UH, WEIGHTED SCORE TO TAKE ALL THOSE FACTORS IN AN ACCOUNT AND THEN PRIORITIZE YOUR PROJECTS.
UH, THE NEXT THING WE DID WAS SOME
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OF THOSE PRIORITIES DIDN'T MAKE PHYSICAL SENSE.FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE SHOWING TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE UPSTREAM BEFORE DRAINAGE DOWNSTREAM, JUST FROM A PURE SCIENCE STANDPOINT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THE DOWNSTREAM IMPROVEMENTS GO IN FIRST JUST SO WE DON'T PULL THE PLUG AND START FLOODING PEOPLE DOWNSTREAM.
SO WE DID ADJUST SOME OF THOSE PRIORITIES JUST BASED ON LOGIC.
SO OVERALL WE CAME UP WITH 14 DIFFERENT PROJECT AREAS.
I PROMISE I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THESE NUMBERS.
WE DID ESTIMATE COSTS FOR THAT IF YOU WERE TO OUTSOURCE IT.
WE KNOW THAT COUNTY HAS STAFF AND THE ABILITY, BUT THERE IS A VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT EFFORT.
MAINTENANCE ONLY WOULD BE ABOUT 6.8 MILLION.
THE BIG NUMBERS THAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT, IF YOU WANNA FIX EVERYTHING AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, WE'RE TALKING 50 TO 55 MILLION, WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY.
AND WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY CANNOT ACTUALLY INVEST $55 MILLION TOMORROW IN THE AJOY COMMUNITY.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS REALLY TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO WHAT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES ARE AVAILABLE.
UH, LUCKILY THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO GET SOME FUNDING FROM THE RIA AS TAYLOR MENTIONED, ACTUALLY FUND THE STUDY.
SO WE'VE HELPED HER GROUP AND THE COUNTY LOOK AT SEVERAL BUCKETS OF MONEY, BOTH LONG TERM LOW INTEREST LOAN FINANCING, CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, GRANTS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
AND SO WE CAN BORE YOU ABOUT THAT LATER.
BUT THE GOOD THING IS THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY OUT THERE TO START APPLYING FOR.
AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACTUALLY HELP THE COUNTY AND EVEN THROUGH THE STUDY UPGRADE, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR MORE MONEY THROUGH CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING FROM THE ARMY CORPS FOR EXAMPLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
I KNOW THE FEDERAL FUNDING'S A LITTLE SHAKY AT THE MOMENT, BUT WE CAN HELP YOU THROUGH THAT NEXT SLIDE.
ALRIGHT, SO 55 MILLION FEDERAL MONEY IS A LITTLE, A LITTLE SHAKY RIGHT NOW.
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS BOIL IT DOWN TO WHAT ARE THINGS THE COUNTY REALLY NEEDS TO FOCUS ON IMMEDIATELY.
WE KNOW THAT EVERYONE IN THAT COMMUNITY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IMMEDIATELY, BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC AND WE HAVE TO BE, UM, FINANCIALLY REALISTIC.
SO WE WANT TO COVER A FEW OF THE SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS.
SO REALLY THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE CAME UP WITH, EXCUSE ME, THAT REALLY NEED IMPROVEMENTS AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE TODAY.
I'M GONNA GET A QUICK SIP OF WATER IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SO THE FIRST PROJECT AREA IS CONFEDERATE AVENUE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, THERE'S A LOT OF FLOODINGS, A LOT OF WETLANDS AROUND THERE.
AND IF WE IMPLEMENT THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE RECOMMENDED ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE A PRETTY STARK DECREASE IN FLOODING.
THE SECOND PROJECT AREA, WHICH ACTUALLY RANKED NUMBER ONE OVERALL FOR THE ENTIRE STUDY, BOTH SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM.
AND THAT'S PALMETTO BEACH LANE.
AND YOU CAN SEE ACTUALLY THE CORNER THERE AT CONFEDERATE AVENUE AND AJOY ROAD.
THERE'S SOME HOUSES THAT FLOOD THERE.
AND THIS PROJECT REALLY, EXCUSE ME, THIS PROJECT REALLY IS JUST IMPROVING THAT OUTFALL, UPGRADING THE PIPING AND JUST GIVING THAT WATER A PLACE TO GO.
ALRIGHT, THE THIRD AND FINAL AREA IS DOWN NEAR THE BOAT LANDING.
AND THIS IS AN AREA WE KNOW THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY UPGRADING THE BOAT RAMP.
SO WE'VE BEEN IN WORKS WITH THOSE CONSULTANTS, BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS OUTSIDE OF THEIR SCOPE OF WORK THAT NEED TO BE IMPROVED, ESPECIALLY AT THE INTERSECTION OF SHAD AVENUE AND ROY ROAD.
AND SO REALLY IT'S JUST EXPANDING SOME OF THAT DRAINAGE UPSTREAM, TRYING TO SOLVE SOME OF THE FLOODING THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION.
ALRIGHT, SO THE SHORT TERM RECOMMENDATIONS, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE COUGHING.
WE'VE BROKEN THOSE UP INTO WHAT WE THINK ARE REALLY, REALLY MANAGEABLE FINANCIAL PRO PROJECTS FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT $10 MILLION.
AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS GOING AHEAD AND MOVING FORWARD WITH DESIGN OF THOSE.
WHETHER YOU ACTUALLY BUILD ALL OF THOSE AT THE SAME TIME IS DEBATABLE.
AND THEN WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO
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DO IS JUST LEVERAGE EFFICIENCIES IN THE DESIGN PROCESS.GO AHEAD AND SURVEY EVERYTHING, PERMIT EVERYTHING, AND THEN YOU CAN START APPLYING FOR MONEY.
AS THAT MONEY COMES IN, YOU CAN BID OUT THE INDIVIDUAL PARTS AND PIECES AND THERE'S THREE OR FOUR BUCKETS OF MONEY WE'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH TAYLOR ABOUT TRYING TO LEVERAGE TO COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS.
ALRIGHT, LAST SLIDE AND WE'LL BE DONE.
SO BIG PICTURE FOCUS ON THE SHORT TERM.
LET'S IMMEDIATELY START APPLYING FOR FUNDING.
I WOULDN'T TRY TO JUST FUND THIS ALL IN-HOUSE.
THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY OUT THERE AND IT DOES TAKE TIME.
SO THE FASTER YOU START APPLYING, THE FASTER YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE SOLUTIONS.
AND THEN REALLY WE THINK YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON THE SHORT TERM RECOMMENDATIONS WITH MAINTENANCE AND THEN JUST KEEP EVALUATING.
SO DON'T, DON'T PUT THE PLAN ON THE SHELF AND JUST DO EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN IS.
IF THE PROBLEM'S FIXED, MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED TO INVEST THE MONEY.
AND SO IT REALLY IS JUST TO REEVALUATE, IMPLEMENT, REEVALUATE SOLUTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, GO AHEAD, MARK.
UM, SOMETHING SIMILAR WAS DONE FOR SHELL POINT AREA A FEW YEARS BACK.
IT, IT REALLY HELPS TO HAVE A PLAN.
I LOVE IT THAT YOU HAVE THE PRIORITIES.
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, MARK, YOUR AREA.
UH, I REPRESENT ALL JOY AND UH, TAYLOR, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
UH, MS. BREWER, THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
I MEAN, I, WHEN I FIRST CAME ON TABOR, VOX WAS TRYING TO GET THE STUDY DONE AND THAT WAS BACK WHENEVER I THINK ERIC LARSON WAS OUR STORMWATER.
HE LEFT US AND THAT LEFT A GAP.
WE HAD COVID, EVERYTHING STOPPED.
I KNOW NEIL DESAI PICKED UP THE BALL AND I THINK HE WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT APPLIED, UH, FOR THE GRANT.
AND AGAIN, TAYLOR STEPPED RIGHT IN, TOOK IT OVER AND IS THE ONE THAT REALLY HAS MADE THIS ALL HAPPEN.
SO TAYLOR, THANK YOU FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD AND MAKING SURE THAT IT, IT DID GET COMPLETED.
UM, AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS IS A BIG PROJECT.
THERE'S PROBABLY EVEN MORE PROJECTS EVEN BEYOND THE ONES YOU MENTIONED THAT HAVE PRIORITY.
BUT THE ONES YOU'VE MENTIONED ARE, ARE THERE, UM, AND AGAIN, I I IT, WHAT THE OLD SAYING IS, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T EAT AN ELEPHANT ALL AT ONCE.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT ONE BITE AT A TIME.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I LOVE TO SEE US, UM, TAKE ONE BITE AT A TIME.
AND I THINK I'VE, I KEEP HEARING FROM, FROM JARED AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SHOVEL READY PROJECTS AND SO HAVE THE DESIGN DONE.
SO WHENEVER THAT GRANT COMES IN, WE'VE GOT THINGS THAT, THAT WE CAN THEN APPLY AND, AND APPLY FOR, UM, BY, BY HAVING ENGINEERING COMPLETED THAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD THEN TO TRYING TO FIND MONEY, UH, THROUGH STATE OR THROUGH FEDERAL OR WHATEVER GRANTS ARE OUT THERE.
UM, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
SO AGAIN, UM, THANK YOU AND AGAIN, TAYLOR, ONE MORE TIME.
YOU'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB, SO THANK YOU.
UM, I GUESS THE ONLY TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE, ONE WOULD BE GRANT PROCESS.
HOW LONG DOES THAT USUALLY TAKE? I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING YEARS, BUT YEAH, SO FEDERAL I WOULD SAY COUNT COUNT FOR TWO TO THREE YEARS.
SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, CONGRESSIONAL DIRECTED SPENDING WOULD BE COMING UP IN THE SPRING, USUALLY AROUND FEBRUARY YOU APPLY, IT'S USUALLY ABOUT A YEAR UNTIL THE BILL HAS PASSED AND THEN THERE'S STILL A APPLICATION PROCESS AFTER THAT.
SO IT'S USUALLY TWO TO THREE YEARS.
NOW, STATE MONIES, LIKE THE RURAL INFRASTRUCTURE AUTHORITY, YOU CAN APPLY TWICE A YEAR AND THEY ARE VERY QUICK.
USUALLY IT'S ABOUT A THREE MONTH TURNAROUND FROM YOUR APPLICATION UNTIL YOUR AWARD.
AND SO USUALLY WE PUSH FOLKS, YOU KNOW, EXTREME PROBLEM AREAS, GO TO THE STATE, YOU'RE GONNA GET A QUICK TURNAROUND.
AND THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT LESS MONEY THAN THE FED.
SO THE FEDERAL GAME IS A LOT LONGER PLAY AND YOU JUST, IT'S AN EXPECTATION GAME SO YOU'VE GOTTA BE PATIENT.
AND MY OTHER QUESTION, YOU SHOWED THE LAST NUMBER IS LIKE 9 MILLION IN CHANGE, WAS THAT INCLUDING MAINTENANCE OR IS THAT 9 MILLION NOT INCLUDING THAT MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT YOU PUT FORWARD? CAPITAL ONLY.
SO ROUTE WISE, DO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE MAPS WITH THE FLOODING CHANGES BEFORE AND AFTER IF WE MADE IMPROVEMENTS, IS THERE A MAP THAT SHOWS YOU IMPROVEMENTS? IF WE DID JUST THE DRAINAGE TO SEE HOW MANY OF THOSE PROJECTS WE COULD DROP OFF THAT $9 MILLION PRICE TAG, YES.
UM, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO GET THAT AT SOME POINT JUST TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW SOME OF THAT? SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN ANY SENSE OF BUSINESS, IF I CAN TRY TO FIX SOMETHING BEFORE I GO BUY BRAND NEW, IT'S WORTH TAKING A A WHACK AT IT AT THAT DIFF DIFFERENCE OF A PRICE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM AREA AND THAT DOWN THERE.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, JUST TO COMMENT, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS ESSENTIAL.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PASSING ON TO ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION NOW CAN FOCUS ON THAT AS WELL AS CONTINUING THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
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THE GRANTS.YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT'S A DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD HERE.
WE HAVE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE FIRST, BUT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THERE ARE JUST GONNA BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE TO MAKE.
JARED, HOW MANY PROJECTS DO WE HAVE ON THE SHELF FOR STORM WATER RIGHT NOW? BETTER ALREADY LIKE DESIGNED.
NONE THAT ARE JUST DESIGNED PERFECT.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A LIST, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
WE CAN SAY, LISTEN, THIS IS WHERE OUR FOCUS IS GONNA BE.
NONE THAT ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE.
AND WE GOT THIS STUDY THAT IS, WE'RE NOT BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON THIS ONE.
NOT IN THE SAME, NOT IN THAT SAME SENSE, YES.
I LIKE IT BECAUSE THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY LET'S FOCUS ON THESE PROJECTS COMING UP.
WE KNOW WHERE WE NEED TO START PUTTING ONE THING MONEY ON A BUCKET.
ONE THING WE DID HAVE RIA FUNDING, RURAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING TO HELP WITH THE STUDY.
UM, THEY LIKE TO FUND THE NEXT PHASE OF THE PROJECT.
THEY REALLY LIKE TO FUND CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET STARTED WITH THE DESIGN PART ON THIS.
WE'LL PROBABLY MISS THE FIRST YEAR, UM, OR THE FIRST, UH, THE NEXT ROUND IN THE SPRING.
MAYBE WE'LL BE READY IN, IN THE, UM, FALL TO APPLY.
I THINK IT'S EITHER 18 OR 24 MONTH.
ONCE YOU GET THE GRANT AWARD, THEY EXPECT IT TO BE COMPLETE.
SO ANYHOW, THEY LIKE FUNDING WHAT THEY'VE PREVIOUSLY FUNDED FOR THE STUDY FOR CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS.
AND JUST TO GET AHEAD OF GAME TWO, WE'VE ALREADY, SO S WHITESIDE, THEY'VE ALREADY, UH, WE'VE ALREADY GOT SCOPE AND FEED FROM THEM FOR THESE FIRST THREE INITIAL PROJECTS THAT WE'D BE BRINGING BACK IN NOVEMBER, PFC, IS YOUR STAFF ABLE TO HANDLE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE THINGS THAT HE SAYS THAT HE QUOTED FOR OUTSOURCING? DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT, SOME WE CAN, SOME WE KNOW THE PROBLEM IS IF WE TIE UP TOO MUCH OF OUR STAFF IN ONE AREA, WE KIND OF FALL SHORT ON OTHER AREAS.
ANOTHER, SO IT JUST, SOMETIMES IT TAKES BIGGER, UM, BIGGER STAFF, YOU KNOW, BIGGER GROUPS OF STAFF TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE BIGGER PROJECTS.
UM, I, WHEN I WAS AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS, THERE WAS A COMPANY THERE THAT HAD A SPECIFIC MACHINE THAT THEY HAD THAT COULD GO IN TO CLEAN UP THE DRAINS.
UM, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP IN OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
'CAUSE A LOT OF THOSE DRAINS ARE JUST PLUGGED WITH DEBRIS OVER THE YEARS.
YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE LOW COUNTRY METHOD, JOE.
YOU DID HAVE A VAC TRUCK TOO, BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THERE'S SOME OTHER EQUIPMENT AND DEPENDING ON BRADLEY AND ENFORCE THAT ONE, UM, IT'LL PROBABLY BE A COMBINATION ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE BETWEEN INTERNAL MAINTENANCE AND THEN EXTERNAL MAINTENANCE THAT WE BID OUT FOR THOSE SPECIFIC MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
LAST THING, AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT DOWN THERE IS THE RIGHT OF WAYS BECAUSE WE ARE MISSING A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAYS, WHICH HAS STOPPED US FROM DOING THE CLEANING OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THEY CAN GO AND GO SO FAR WITHOUT THE RIGHT OF WAYS.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT US, TAYLOR? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT US IN THE LONG RUN FROM THE MAINTENANCE SIDE? 'CAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A HUGE DEAL FOR SOME OF THESE, UM, DRAINAGE DITCHES THAT RUN BEHIND HOUSES AND BACK THROUGH TO TO AREAS.
SO WHAT A VERY GOOD RUNNING RELATIONSHIP WITH DOT.
WE HAVE MONTHLY PATIENT MEETINGS.
SO AS ISSUES COME UP THAT MAKE, OKAY.
YEAH, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER THING YOU JUST BROUGHT UP.
IF WE DECIDE TO GO WITH ONE OF THOSE ROUTES WHERE YOU PUT A NEW DRAINAGE AND STUFF, I COULDN'T IMAGINE HOW MANY EASEMENTS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET IN THAT COMMUNITY TO GET THAT DONE.
JUST YEARS GETTING THROUGH THAT.
JUST THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY DID STICK TO OUR RIGHT OF WAYS.
YEAH, THERE WOULD ONLY BE ONE TEMPORARY ACCESS THAT WE OH WOW.
IT'LL JUST BE A ONE TIME CLEAN OUT.
JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.
UM, WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, DOT AND, UM, I THINK WE DO TRY TO MAINTAIN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH DOT, UM, THE, THERE, THERE ARE TIMES I'VE HEARD FROM MY CONSTITUENTS THAT, UM, WE DO A GOOD JOB ON DRAINAGE ALONG OUR ROADWAYS AND STUFF, BUT THEN WHEN IT GETS TO THE STATE, THERE'S A PROBLEM.
CAN WE DO SOMETHING TO FOSTER A BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE, EVEN TO THE POINT OF DOING SOME OF THEIR WORK AND GETTING PAID FOR IT
THEY USUALLY DON'T PAY YOU FOR THE WORK
BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN A, UM, DIFFICULT SITUATION BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE UNDERSTAFFED GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF ASSETS THAT THEY OWN IN THE COUNTY ARE ARE STATEWIDE.
AND SO, UM, THEY DON'T DO A LOT OF MAINTENANCE CONTRACT.
BUT IF WE GO AND CONTRACT AND USE OUR STORM WATER FEES, THEY'LL GLADLY ACCEPT IT.
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ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THAT REPORT THEN.[7.d. Clerk of Court Renovations Discussion]
SORRY, A FEW OTHER QUICK ITEMS THAT WASN'T SO QUICK, BUT THESE WILL BE QUICKER, I PROMISE.UM, INSIDE THE A CA REPORT, ONE, JUST TO BRING TENSION IS SOME RENOVATIONS THAT WE HAD PLANNED IN THE COURTHOUSE.
UM, WE HAD GOOD COORDINATION LAST WEEK WITH THE CLERK OF COURT, MS. ROSENAU, AND BASICALLY THE PROJECT, WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR CIP FOR SOME REPAIRS AND RENOVATIONS INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE TO THE, TO THE COUPLE COURTROOMS AND THEN PLANNED ALSO FOR SOME BATHROOM IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, ONCE WE PUT THE BATHROOM IMPROVEMENTS, WE ACTUALLY PUT THIS OUT TO BID ALREADY AND WE PUT THE BATHROOM IMPROVEMENTS AND SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ADD ALTERNATES AND THEY CAME IN, UM, WELL OVER OUR MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.
UM, SO WE HAD ENOUGH FUNDING TO, TO FUND THE PROJECT, BUT THE FIRST BIDDER WAS, UM, SUSPICIOUS.
THEIR BID WAS REALLY, REALLY LOW.
SO WE ASKED THEM QUESTIONS AND THEY WERE DISQUALIFIED.
AND THEN THE SECOND BIDDER ENDED UP PULLING OUT THEIR BID.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO REBID THE WORK, BUT PER COORDINATION WITH, UM, MS. ROSENAU, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN A, ANOTHER BUDGET FY 28 BUDGET, CIP REQUESTS TO ADD THE BATHROOMS. THE COORDINATION POINT IS JUST THE DISRUPTION OF THE COURT AND THE COURTHOUSES OR COURTHOUSE IN THE COURTROOMS. UM, WHATEVER WE DO, WE WANNA DO IT ONCE.
WE DON'T WANT TO GO IN AND OUT, IN AND OUT.
SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO DELAY THE PROJECT A LITTLE BIT.
WE'RE GONNA DO SOME ADDITIONAL DESIGN TO, TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ADD SOME A DA HANDICAP BATHROOMS TO THE FACILITY THAT ARE MUCH NEEDED OVER THERE.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BID IT OUT LATER.
UM, WE'LL PROBABLY END UP BIDDING IT OUT IN THE SPRING WITH OUR CURRENT MONEY.
AND THEN, UM, WHETHER WE DO ADD ALTERNATES OR WE DO IT ALL TOGETHER, WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE FY 28 FUNDING COMING IN THE BUDGET AT THAT TIME.
AND THEN, SO BY THE TIME WE GET TO JULY 1ST, WE'LL HAVE A GOOD IDEA WHETHER WE, UM, HAD THE SECOND SECTION OF FUNDING AVAILABLE AND HOW WE DO THAT TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S OUR INITIAL COORDINATION.
JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AGAIN, WE HAD GOOD COORDINATION WITH, WITH THE CLERK OF COURT ON THAT, WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU ALL.
AND THEN LASTLY, AS FAR AS COORDINATION, THIS IS WITH OUTSIDE AGENCY.
UM, BRIAN AND I HAD SOME RECENT COORDINATION AND CONTINUE WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE IN REGARDS TO PINKNEY ISLAND AND THE US 2 78 BRIDGE PROJECT.
SO AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE BRIDGE IS COMING SOUTH OF ITS EXISTING ALIGNMENT, SO THERE'S RIGHT OF WAY NEED THAT THE DOT NEEDS.
BUT THE NEW BRIDGE IS RIGHT ON TOP OF OUR EASEMENT AREA, SIX ACRES, UM, THERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE, UM, SOUTH OF THE NEW BRIDGE ALIGNMENT FOR US TO, UM, RECREATE OUR FACILITIES THERE ON PINCKNEY ISLAND.
THAT WAS OUR INITIAL DISCUSSION, BUT AS WE TALKED FURTHER, WE HAD FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND SOME OF THE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT INSIDE THE REGION.
AND I ASKED NATHAN HAW, LUCK WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE, IF HE'LL COME FORWARD, UM, JUST TO SHARE WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOME BOUNDARY EXPANSION AND HE CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WHAT'S GOING ON WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE IN THE REGION.
HOW YOU DOING, SIR? HEY, YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON.
UM, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBER OF OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME'S NATHAN HUCK.
I'M THE, UH, PROJECT LEADER FOR THE SAVANNAH COASTAL REFUGE COMPLEX.
I SEE THE, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE MAP.
SO, UM, AS JARED MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF BOUNDARY EXPANSION AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT IS AND THEN MAYBE SOME SPECIFICS AND TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO KEEP IT SHORT.
SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE? UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A NETWORK OF LANDS ACROSS THE NATION, KINDA LIKE NATIONAL PARK SYSTEM UNITS ONLY FEDERAL UNITS DEDICATED TO WILDLIFE, UH, MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE PRESERVATION AND CONSERVATION.
UM, UH, THE COMPLEX THAT I WORK FOR, THE SAVANNAH COASTAL HAS SEVEN TOTAL REFUGES IN IT, ROUGHLY 60,000 ACRES ON THE COAST OF GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA.
AND AS JARED MENTIONED, ALSO PINKNEY ISLAND NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE IN, UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY HERE.
IT'S TOUGH TO SEE IT ON THE MAP UP THERE, BUT, UM, IT, UH, THE, OUR EXISTING LAND, OUR REFUGES ARE SHOWN IN THE CROSS HATCH THERE.
AND IT'S UP NORTH A LITTLE BIT, UM, YEAH, RIGHT THERE ON THE NORTH END.
SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, 60,000 ACRES, UM, AND A LOT OF THINGS ARE KIND OF COMING TOGETHER, UH, WORKING WITH PARTNERS AND BOTH STATE GOVERNMENTS TO LOOK AT, UH, ADDING CONSERVATION LANDS IN, IN THIS AREA.
I'LL MENTION, UH, GOVERNOR RICK MASTERS, UH, INITIATIVE, LAND CONSERVATION INITIATIVE, AND A RECENTLY PASSED, UM, UH, STATE ACT AND I THINK IT'S ONE 90 AND, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA CAN CONSERVE ANOTHER, I THINK 3.6 MILLION ACRES.
SO WE'VE BEEN INVITED, UH, BY THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS A FEDERAL
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PARTNER.SO, UM, WE CAN'T ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES WITHOUT HAVING THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO.
WE HAVE TO DO THAT THROUGH BOUNDARY EXPANSION.
UM, AND THAT ESSENTIALLY IS WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS YOU SEE HERE.
UM, WE COULD DO IT AT A, AT A VERY GRANULAR, UH, SURGICAL LEVEL OR WE COULD KIND OF AIM BIG, GO WITH A BIG BOUNDARY EXPANSION AND LIMIT OURSELVES TO THE ACQUISITION WITHIN THAT.
SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE BLUE OUTLINE IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 1.25 MILLION ACRES.
THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, OUR PROPOSED BOUNDARY EXPANSION AND WE WOULD LIMIT OURSELVES TO ACQUIRING 150,000 ACRES WITHIN THAT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
UM, WE'RE MID-PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE DONE SCOPING, UH, WHERE WE WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC, UH, FOR A MONTH FROM SEPTEMBER 17TH, OCTOBER 17TH TO GET SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME INITIAL FEELINGS.
THAT'S WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS FROM IT OR THIS MAP IS IN A, A DOCUMENT WE HAD ONLINE, UH, ANSWERING SOME VERY BASIC QUESTIONS AND GETTING INTO SOME DEEP DETAILS.
BUT ALSO, UM, IT HAD THIS MAP, UH, THAT WE, WE GOT FEEDBACK ON FROM THE PUBLIC.
WE'RE HOPING ON NOVEMBER 9TH TO GO, UH, OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WITH THE ACTUAL, UH, DRAFT DOCUMENTS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE, UM, A BOUNDARY EXPANSION FOR THE COMPLEX I WORK AT TO THE ONE SOUTH OR NORTH OF US IN SOUTH CAROLINA, LOW COUNTRY, WHICH INCLUDES FOUR REFUGES.
UM, AND WE'LL HAVE A 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT.
SOUTH CAROLINA, LOW COUNTRY AND CAPE ROMAINE, UM, ACE BASE AND, UH, WAKA MA AND, UH, SANTI ARE THE REFUGES IN SOUTH CAROLINA LOW COUNTRY.
SO WE'RE, UM, JUST A FEW WEEKS AWAY, UH, BARRING ANY DELAYS, UNFORESEEN DELAYS TO GOING PUBLIC AND GETTING, SOLICITING ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK.
AND ONCE WE DO HAVE THAT, UM, LET'S FAST FORWARD AND SAY WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE WITH OUR, OUR LAND CONSERVATION PLAN AND ASSOCIATED ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.
WE'LL THEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO, UM, ESSENTIALLY NEGOTIATE FOR LAND PURCHASES FROM WILLING POINT.
WE, WE ONLY PURCHASE FROM WILLING SELLERS AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND, AND EVEN IF THERE'S A WILLING SELLER, WE, WE HAVE SOME OTHER LIMITATIONS, WHETHER IT'S FUNDING, AVAILABILITY, UM, AGREED UPON PRICE AND A LOT OF OTHER, UH, FACTORS.
AND OF COURSE IT'S GOTTA FIT OUR, OUR MANAGEMENT, UH, AND OUR MISSION AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I I GUESS I CAN PAUSE RIGHT THERE AND AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, ANY COMMENTS? GO AHEAD.
UM, I GOT A DIFFERENT SUBJECT THOUGH, BUT, SO, UH, WELL, I JUST WANT TO, SO THE PURPOSE IN BRINGING NATHAN IS JUST TO TELL YOU THAT THEY'VE GOT A PUBLIC PROCESS GOING ON.
THEY'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THEIR BOUNDARIES.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, PUBLIC FACILITIES IS KIND OF, UM, IT STEMMED FROM THE 2 78 PROJECT.
THIS GETS INTO OTHER STUFF AND EVEN TIES CLOSELY WITH GREEN SPACE.
BUT THE IMPORTANT THING HERE IS THAT, UM, FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACQUIRING PROPERTIES IN THE FUTURE, THEY, THIS BOUNDARY EXPANSION IS REQUIRED AND NECESSARY.
UM, AND THERE'S A MONTH THAT PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE OPEN AND AVAILABLE.
UM, ONE THING TO NOTE THAT I MENTIONED TO NATHAN ALREADY, UM, IS THAT THIS MAP AND THE NEXT MAP, THE TWO BOUNDARIES BETWEEN CHARLESTON BRANCH AND SAVANNAH BRANCH, THEY ACTUALLY, UM, DON'T COME TOGETHER COMPLETELY.
SO THEY MISS OUT IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
UM, SO THE, THE OTHER SLIDE COMES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE EDISTO RIVER AND THIS COMES TO THE BROAD RIVER.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED MAPS.
THEY CAN BE ADJUSTED THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND SO IF PEOPLE MAKE THAT COMMENT, THEN THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADJUSTMENT TO SEE THOSE TWO DISTRICTS COME TOGETHER.
BUT ANYHOW, THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE DAY.
JUST TO PURPOSE OF THE DAY, JUST TO INTRODUCE THIS TO YOU AND TO BRING IT FORWARD SO YOU'RE AWARE OF THE SITUATION.
IT, IT, IT'S A SEPARATE SUBJECT AND I DON'T PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY I DON'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO A FISH AND WILDLIFE GUY VERY OFTEN, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT PINKY ISLAND, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE CURRENT FERRY SITE.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, UM, THAT, THAT WE COULD NOT BUILD A, A FERRY FACILITY THERE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT IN THE, UM, DEED FOR THE, UH, PINKY ISLAND FOR US TO DO THAT.
SO WITH THIS SWAP OF PROPERTY THAT WAS GONNA HAVE TO HAPPEN, UM, WHO DO WE TALK TO OR HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BUILD THEN A FERRY FACILITY? AND AGAIN, I'VE BEEN TOLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT, THAT THERE HAS TO BE APPROVAL FROM FISH AND WILDLIFE.
THAT'S THE ONLY, AND WE'VE HAD SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES, I'LL SAY, I'LL GO GET THAT, AND EVERYONE COMES BACK AND GOES, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS.
SO AGAIN, NOT TO PUT YOU ON SPOT, BUT UM, I CAN HELP ANSWER THIS IS THE MAN THAT WE NEED TO SPEAK TO, TO HELP FACILITATE THAT.
UM, THERE'S SOME, CERTAINLY SOME OPTIONS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER, UM, SOME EASIER THAN OTHERS, SOME MORE DIFFICULT.
UH, IT, IT DOES COME DOWN TO DEED RESTRICTIONS AND, AND, AND HOW THOSE ARE EVALUATED AND ASSESSED.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE OF THE IDEAS I'VE FLOATED OUT IS A, A STRAIGHT UP LAND EXCHANGE, UH, FOR THAT ENTIRE RIDE OF WAY CORRIDOR, WHICH, WHICH DOESN'T,
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UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIGHWAY, IT'S UTILITY, IT'S BOAT.IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CHECK THE BOX FOR REALLY GOOD WILDLIFE HABITAT.
UM, JUST LIKE ANYTHING FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT IT'S, AND, AND IT TAKES A WHILE SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIT A TIMELINE RIGHT NOW, BUT MAYBE THERE'S, UM, SOME IDEAS IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN AGREE ON PRINCIPLE AND, UM, WORK THROUGH THE CURRENT PROCESS SO THE DOT CAN STAY ON THEIR, UH, SCHEDULE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR BRIDGE.
BUT, UM, IT, IT'S AN IDEA THAT WE COULD CONSIDER FOR SURE.
UM, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE, BUT
THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION THAT I'M SURE WE'LL DIVE INTO.
BUT YEAH, PINCKNEY ISLAND'S OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT TO US FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
I WANT A FERRY EMBARKATION SYSTEM THERE AND A WELCOME CENTER THERE.
I'VE BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS IT CAN'T BE DONE.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO A LAND SWAP, DOES THAT ALLOW US TO USE THAT LAND TO BE ABLE TO PUT FACILITIES ON THERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY? THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR A LAWYER.
BUT, UM, I, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THIS PROPOSAL FOR BOUNDARY EXPANSION, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT TIES IN, IN THAT LIKE IF WE DID COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON A, ON A LAND TRANSFER, WE, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TRANSFER, YOU KNOW, TO ACCEPT LAND FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO IT DOES KIND OF, UH, INTERPLAY TOGETHER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
YOU JUST ASKED ABOUT, UM, HOW THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, UM, APPLY OR, OR DON'T, ONE THING TO NOTE IS ULTIMATELY PINNEY ISLAND WAS DONATED TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UM, IN, IN THE EIGHTIES.
AND THAT THE COVENANTS THAT CAME WITH THAT WOULD STAY REGARDLESS WHETHER WHOEVER OWNS THE LAND.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE REALLY THE, WHAT THE LAWYERS WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT AND SEE IF IN THE ORIGINAL COVENANTS, IF IT ALLOWS FOR THAT, BUT, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHTY, UH, MY GUESS, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, JARED, ON YOUR SIDE, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FOR US? I'M ASSUME THIS WILL COME BACK TO US AT SOME POINT FOR ON THAT.
SO, UM, BRIAN AND I ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH NATHAN, UM, AND DOT.
WE HAVE A CALL, UM, TOMORROW ACTUALLY TO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
UH, WE FEEL CONFIDENT WHERE WE ARE BETWEEN DOT AND THE BRIDGE PROJECT AS FAR AS GETTING WHAT WE NEED TO START THE PROJECT SO IT DOESN'T DELAY THE PROJECT.
AND IN THE MEANTIME WE'LL WORK ON THE EXPANDED AREA, WHETHER THAT'S OUR REESTABLISHMENT OF OUR SIX ACRES OR SOMETHING LARGER THAN THAT.
UM, AND SO THE NEXT STEP IS JUST CONTINUED STAFF COORDINATION WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE.
AND THAT CONCLUDES A REALLY LONG A CA REPORT.
PLUS WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE CATAPULT FOR THE PUMPKINS AND THERE FOR YOU.
[8.a. Update on Stormwater Utility Fee Study and Restructure - Jared Fralix, Assistant County Administrator (30 min)]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA ITEMS. ACTUALLY HAVE FIRST THREE ARE MORE OF DISCUSSIONS IT LOOKS LIKE AS WELL.SO MOVE ON TO A, IT'S AN UPDATE ON STORMWATER UTILITY FEE STUDY AND RESTRUCTURE.
I'VE HAD TWO OF YOU ALREADY ASK ME.
IT'S A TYPO
UM, SO MR. HOWELL WAS HERE IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR FROM WILPERT AND GAVE A FULL IN DEPTH, UH, PRESENTATION ON WHY WE WANT TO REWORK OUR FEE STRUCTURE AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE UPDATE ON SOME ACTION ITEMS. UM, SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR PROGRAM AND STORM STORMWATER UTILITY GOALS WITH WILPERT.
UM, WE'VE ADJUSTED OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE TO SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS MORE REASONABLE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT OUR CIAP PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, OUR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN, UM, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE AND PROGRAMMATIC NEEDS.
AND FROM THAT HE DID A FEE STUDY WHERE HE ASSESSED OUR NEEDS AND KIND OF WHERE WE'LL BE IN 5, 10, 15 YEARS BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE STRUCTURE IS SUSTAINABLE FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, OUR MAIN, UM, PROJECT GOALS ARE TO REDUCE THE COMPLEXITY OF OUR CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HIRE OUT, UH, TWO DIFFERENT FIRMS TO RUN TAX RUN EVERY YEAR.
UM, WE HAVE A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN OUR CURRENT STRUCTURE AND THAT OUR DATABASE COM COMPUTES IT SEPARATELY FROM HOW WE SAY WE COMPUTE OUR FEES THESE DAYS.
UM, AND THERE'S A HUGE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL COST SHARING.
UM, WHERE USUALLY YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES BEARING THE BRUNT OF THE FEE.
UM, IT'S VICE VERSA IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S MORE EQUITABLE.
UM, AND THEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, BEING FAIR TO THE CITIZENS WE WANNA TAKE IN THEIR ABILITY TO PAY INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL.
SO WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A FULL REPORT FROM WILBERT BY THE END OF OCTOBER.
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SO WE'LL HAVE A PROPOSED NEW FEE STRUCTURE FOR COMMITTEE.UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT PRESENTING IN JANUARY BACK TO PFC FOR OUR NEW PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
SO JUST KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN FOR THAT.
UM, WE DO HAVE ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN AND MORE INFORMATION ON THE STORMWATER WEBSITE, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN DEFINITELY DIRECT YOU TO WHERE TO GET THAT INFORMATION.
BUT JUST WANTED TO KEEP THAT ON YOUR RADAR AND KNOW THAT THAT WILL BE COMING BACK AROUND.
UM, IT'S A VERY BIG IMPORTANT DECISION THAT WILL AFFECT ALL OF OUR TAXPAYERS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
I HAVE A COUPLE, WE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS? UM, THE LAST TIME WE DID A COMPLETE FEE STUDY WAS IN 2015.
THAT'S WHY I FIGURED THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, YOU SAID THE TRANSPARENCY ON HOW WE WHAT, ARE THERE GONNA BE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGRICULTURE CATEGORY? NO MA'AM.
AGRICULTURE WILL STILL BE EXEMPT VIA STATE LAW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST QUICKLY? UM, THERE WAS, UM, SOME, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT STORMWATER, UM, AND I'M GLAD THAT THIS STUDY'S BEING DONE.
UM, ARE YOU GETTING ANY INPUT FROM, UM, JUST USERS OF, OF THE RECIPIENTS OF STORMWATER FEES? ARE YOU GETTING, GETTING SOME INPUT FROM THEM, UH, AS YOU GO MOVE FORWARD TO HOW DO WE MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT? I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF, UH, CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT FEE IS CALCULATED AND WHETHER IT'S JUST AND FAIR.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THE STUDY HAPPENING.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER YOU'RE GETTING SOME INPUT FROM USERS OF THE STORMWATER FEES, THE PAYERS, I'M NOT GONNA SAY USERS, THE PAYERS.
AND WE HAVE, UM, MY BUSINESS MANAGER, MICHELLE AND I HAVE TAKEN MANY, MANY CALLS OVER, UM, INCORRECT BILLS AND HOW OUR DATABASE IS MALFUNCTIONING.
UM, AND IT'S A GIVEN US, WE'VE USED IT AS A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN TO THEM, UM, TO HEAR THEIR ISSUES AND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
MOST OF THEM ARE FINE WITH HOW MUCH THEY PAY, THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW FOR THE NEXT YEAR HOW TO CALCULATE IT.
UM, SO DEFINITELY HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM HOAS, POAS AS WELL AS THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY PAYER ON HOW TO MAKE IT MORE SIMPLE.
[8.b. Marine Project Prioritization Discussion (FISCAL IMPACT: There is no fiscal impact at this time. This is for discussion only.) - Bryan Bauer, PE, Director or Engineering (5 Minutes)]
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO B UH, MARINE PROJECT.PRIOR, PRIOR TO, WELL I DID IT AGAIN.
I DID THE SAME THING IN A AGENDA REVIEW.
A MOTION TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION SECOND PLEASE.
BRIAN, HOW ARE YOU SIR? GOOD AND YOU? FANTASTIC.
READY BUILT FOR IT, BUT I DON'T SWIM.
SO GOOD ABOUT JUST PRIORITIZATION, MARINE ASSETS.
SO I WAS EXPECTING THIS TO BE LIKE FIVE OR SIX
UH, NO THE LAST COUPLE MEETINGS WHEN WE BROUGHT MARINE PROJECTS AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COME IN LATER ON, ON THE AGENDA, THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE ARE PRIORITIZING THESE PROJECTS AND IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF PRIORITIZATION FOR YOU.
SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN UH, ALL THE PROJECTS, MARINE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, UM, AND COME UP WITH A PRIORITIZATION METHOD.
WE HAVE BROKEN THESE PROJECTS INTO THREE CATEGORIES, UM, REPAIRS, IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSIONS.
UM, AND MOST OF THESE RIGHT NOW ARE COMING FROM DIFFERENT PLANNING DOCUMENTS, EITHER OUR BOAT LANDING MASTER PLAN OR THE MARINE ASSET EVALUATION THAT WE DID, UM, FINISH UP THIS YEAR.
UM, SO WHEN CATEGORIES WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE'RE RANKING THESE IS IS THERE A SAFETY ISSUE THAT'S A YES OR NO? UM, IF IT'S, YES, IT GETS TWO POINTS.
IF IT'S NO, IT'S ZERO AT THE END OF THE DAY THE HIGHEST SCORE IS THE BIGGEST PRIORITY.
IS THAT LOW, MEDIUM OR HIGH AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THAT FACILITY AND THAT DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY OF MEASURING THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S BASED OFF OF STAFF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
WHETHER IT'S UM, YOU KNOW, A CAMERA SYSTEM OR UH, LOOP DETECTORS OR SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY TRACK THAT.
UM, BUT THEN WHETHER IT'S ON A COUNTY PLAN, YES OR NO.
AND THAT'S AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE BOAT LANDING MASTER PLAN OR OUR FACILITIES ASSESSMENT THAT WE JUST DID.
UM, IS IT IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY FOR EXPANSION IN THE BOAT LANDING MASTER PLAN? UM, WHETHER IT HAS FUNDING FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OR PARTIAL FUNDING AND THEN ALSO IS IT ON COUNTY PROPERTY? SO BASICALLY WHAT I JUST HANDED OUT IS
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THAT PRIORITIZED LIST.IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAD IN YOUR BACKUP EXCEPT FOR I'VE SORTED IT BASED UH, ON HIGH SCORE FIRST AND I'VE ADDED SOME HIGHLIGHT.
AND THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTS ARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN AWARDED AND SELECTED FOR AH, OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UM, AND THE BLUE ONES ARE ONES THAT WERE SUBMITTED BUT NOT SELECTED.
SO I THINK WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THAT THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED FOR AH, THE LAST TWO YEARS FOR THE MOST PART HAVE BEEN UP AT THE TOP OF THE RANKINGS AND PRIORITIZATION.
UM, I DO WANNA ADDRESS THAT SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE REPAIRS AND UM, THOSE WE ARE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS NOW.
WE'VE TAKEN OUR CONDITION ASSESSMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED OF ALL OF OUR FACILITIES CONDITIONS.
UM, AND WE'VE MET WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY LURK LOOKING TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE IN-HOUSE AND ONCE THEY HAVE THAT ESTABLISHED, THEY WILL LET US KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO GO GET A CONTRACTOR FOR.
AND SO A LOT OF THESE REPAIR PROJECTS WE'RE HOPEFUL WE'LL BE TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR BASED ON OUR CURRENT BUDGET FUNDING, OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
UM, THOSE CURRENTLY DON'T SAY THEY SAY NO FOR FUNDING, BUT THAT'S JUST BECAUSE WE'RE STILL ESTABLISHING WHAT PROJECTS WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE AND WHAT WE CAN'T.
BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL WE CAN DO A LOT OF THAT IN-HOUSE AND GET TO SOME OF THE ONES THAT UM, CAN'T BE DONE BY STAFF WITH A CON CON CONTRACTOR.
BUT THE OTHER THING I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT ALL THE ONES THAT SAY YES THEY'RE A SAFETY ISSUE HAVE RISEN TO THE TOP, UM, AND ARE BEING ADDRESSED.
SO THAT'S A REALLY QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PRIORITIZATION.
ALRIGHT, WE ASKED FOR THIS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
LET'S DO IT ALICE FIRST WE'LL WORK OUR WAY DOWN.
IS PORT ROYAL BOAT LANDING THE SAME AS THE SANDS? YES MA'AM.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY, WELL, UM, BUCKINGHAM PLANTATION? MM-HMM
AND THAT WAS BACK, WHAT, TWO YEARS AGO AGO? NO, THAT WOULD BE TWO AGO.
THE FUTURE WHEN THEY GO TO CONSTRUCTION ON THE HILL AND HEAD BRIDGE IN 2028.
SO THIS WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO LET PEOPLE USE THAT BETWEEN 2028 AND 2031 WHILE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BRIDGE IS ONGOING.
IT WAS APPROVED AT ONE YEAR AGO I BELIEVE? YES.
IT WAS APPROVED IN THIS YEAR'S, UH, REQUEST THIS YEAR.
LIKE WHEN THIS YEAR IT WAS RIGHT AFTER WE APPROVED THE BRIDGE.
WE WANTED TO HAVE A SECOND OUTLET FOR THE FERRY OR PUBLIC USE JUST IN CASE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS ON THE REQUEST THAT WAS VOTED ON BACK IN JULY OR THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
I'M GONNA ASK ABOUT WIMPY CREEK BOAT LAND.
SO YOU SEE IT'S UP THERE, BOAT LANDING DESIGN AND DEMO.
AND THEN YOU SEE IT ON THE NEXT PAGE, BOAT LANDING EXPANSION.
WHY WOULDN'T WE DO THAT ALL AT ONE TIME? WHY ARE WE GONNA MESS WITH WIMPY CREEK TWICE? SAFETY HAZARD.
I KNOW, BUT FOR YOU CAN GET THIS ALL AT ONCE.
SO I THINK WHAT THAT WAS WAS WE ARE LOOKING AT EXPANDING IT WHILE WE'RE DOING, WE ARE EXPANDING THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THERE.
SO THAT WAS JUST AN OVERSIGHT WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PLAN.
BUT WE, IN THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT WE ARE DOING, WE ARE EXPANDING THE PARKING THERE.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENCES THERE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXPANSION, IT IS GENERALLY TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT ONTO NEW PROPERTY.
WHEREAS AT WINDY WE'RE KEEPING IT WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
WE'RE JUST KIND OF REARRANGING IT TO FIT MORE PARKING.
WHEREAS LIKE YOU LOOKING AT EDDINGS POINT, BOAT RAMP EXPANSION THAT'S UP THERE IN THE YELLOW, THAT IS ACTUALLY EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT OF THAT BOAT LANDING ONTO NEW PROPERTY.
UM, WHEREAS WENDY'S ALL STAYING WITHIN THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT AND THEN THOSE TWO WIM B DOESN'T HAVE THE BUILT THE FUNDING FOR BUILDING THE NEW YES, IT'S JUST FOR DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS JUST FOR DESIGN AND EXPANSION AND DEMO.
SO WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT PART YET, WHICH I WOULD ASSUME WOULD BE HIGHER ON THE LIST AFTER THAT GETS ADDED TO IT WHEN WE GET THROUGH THIS PHASE.
YEAH, IF IT HAD CONSTRUCTION FUNDING THEN IT WOULD GET ADDITIONAL POINTS AND WOULD RAISE UP HIGHER.
SO CAMERON, JUST QUICKLY, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION FOR DEFINITION? UM, I UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OF EXPANSION MM-HMM
YEAH, THAT'S, I SHOULD CLARIFY THAT.
SO REPAIRS ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN OUR CURRENT EVALUATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE BIG THING THAT KEEPS POPPING UP IS LIKE BROKEN CLEATS.
SO THAT WOULD FALL UNDER REPAIR AND IMPROVEMENT IS IN THAT BOAT LANDING MASTER PLAN.
IT IDENTIFIES A KIND OF A SET STANDARD OF WHAT WE WANT OUR BOAT LANDING SO LOOK LIKE, WHETHER THAT'S A L-SHAPED FLOAT OR YOU KNOW, A AREA TO, UM,
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PREP AND YOU KNOW, TIE, TIE THE TRAILER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.SO THAT WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT IF IT'S KIND OF ADDING SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THERE.
BRIAN, IF I MIGHT ASK YES SIR.
THE WINDY CREEK, UH, BOAT LANDING IS, UH, PARKING IS VERY, UH, MINIMAL.
SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO EXPAND THAT, I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW YOU'RE GONNA DO THAT.
YEAH, SO RIGHT NOW REALLY IT'S KIND OF TWO TIERED.
YOU HAVE THE PARKING FOR THE FISHING PIER IS UP HERE WHERE THE OLD RAIL BED USED TO BE, AND THE PARKING LOT'S DOWN HERE.
SO THE INTENT OF THAT PROJECT IS TO LEVEL THE SITE, AND THAT WAY YOU'LL HAVE A FISHING PIER THAT COMES OFF AT GRADE VERSUS BEING UP ABOVE THE WATER AND NEEDING STEPS TO GET UP TO IT.
SO BY DOING THAT, WE'RE ADDING MORE SPACE WHERE NOW THERE'S THAT TRANSITION FOR THE SLOPE.
SO WE'RE OPENING IT UP WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THAT SLOPE TAKE SPACE.
SO BY LEVELING THE WHOLE SITE, WE'RE ABLE TO FIT MORE PARKING ON THERE, SIR.
ANYBODY ELSE OVER HERE? ALL RIGHT.
UH, MY OTHER THING WOULD BE IS NOW IT'S OUR JOB.
THEY PUT IT TO THE SYSTEM OF PRIORITIES THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO GET DONE.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO START SAYING, HOW DO WE FUND THESE PROJECTS AND HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THEM FORWARD THAT WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE, THEY HAVE TO GET READY FOR SHOVEL READY, OR IF IT IS REPAIRED.
SO LIKE A LOT OF THESE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING PART, UH, WHERE'S IT AT? DESIGN FUNDING, WE HAVE FUNDING FOR DESIGN CONSTRUCTION FUNDING, ONLY TWO OF THE TOP ONES ON PRIORITY.
THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS OUR LIST OF TOP 10.
SO HOW DO WE START FIGURING OUT WHERE TO START PULLING THAT MONEY FROM WHERE TO START SETTING THAT MONEY ASIDE TO, UM, HOW MANY OF THOSE CAN QUALIFY FOR A AND H? SO I, I WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AS A COUNCIL OF IDEAS OF WHERE WE CAN START BUILDING THAT BANK FOR THESE PROJECTS, BECAUSE THAT, THAT HAS TO BE THE NEXT STEP.
IF NOT ALL, THIS IS FOR NOTHING.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT, AND THIS YEAR WE DID A LOT WITH A NH TAX FOR THESE MM-HMM
SO IF WE KEEP OUR FOCUS ON THAT NEXT YEAR, WE CAN DO A LOT AGAIN.
I I WOULD CHALLENGE TO TOP 15 INSTEAD OF 10.
IT, IT MIGHT BE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE USAGE TOO.
SOME, I KNOW YOU, I KNOW WE HAVE THE CA CAPACITY TO DO, UM, COUNTS OF WITH HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING THESE TOO.
SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IS, LIKE I SAID, PUBLIC WORKS IS CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THOSE REPAIR REPORTS.
SO WE, WE'VE ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT THAT IN THE NEXT MONTH AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK TO IT.
SO THERE'S NO PFC IN DECEMBER, BUT I WOULD THINK BY THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE COULD HAVE A UPDATED LIST THAT IS, HAS A BETTER, UH, FEEL ON THOSE REPAIR PROJECTS.
AND IT'LL PROBABLY ADJUST SOME, UH, ONCE WE GET THAT.
SO, UM, IS MS. NOVAK STILL HERE? NO.
UH, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, JARED, DO YOU KNOW WHAT OUR, UM, OUR BUDGET IS? IT'S 200 AND SOME MILLION.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT BUDGET FOR YEAH, OVERALL IT'S A PROPERTY $200 MILLION, BUT THAT'S OPERATING IN CIP AND THAT'S EVERYTHING, RIGHT? SO 200 MILLION, SORRY, I'M DOING QUICK MATH.
SO IF WE SAID IF OUR BUDGET'S 200 MILLION AND WE COMMITTED TO ADD ANOTHER HALF PERCENT OR 1%, OR WHENEVER THAT NUMBER IS IN OUR BUDGET TO START GOING TOWARDS PROJECTS LIKE THESE, WHAT KIND OF, THAT'S WHAT I HOPE MS. NOVAK IS HERE.
WHAT KIND OF STRAIN DOES THAT PUT IN OUR OVERALL BUDGET IF WE SAY WE'RE GONNA CREATE A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS POCKET OR FOR THIS BUCKET FOR THE FUTURE? SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR THIS IS GOING IN OUR BUDGET TO GO TOWARDS THIS.
SO IF YOU, IF A MILL IS WORTH $3 MILLION, THEN YOU'RE DEDICATING $3 MILLION A YEAR TOWARDS THESE PROJECTS.
UNLESS, WELL, BESIDES THAT, I DON'T THINK A AND H TAX IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO COVER, DO THE WHOLE CRAP, COVER EVERYTHING.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE A DEDICATION OF PARTIAL MILL, FULL MILL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT IS AN OVERALL DISCUSSION AS THE BUDGET IS PUT TOGETHER.
I THINK THIS IS A REOCCURRING THE, UM, THEME ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS.
'CAUSE, AND I KNOW MR. MOORE'S ON THE SCREEN AND HE CAN PROBABLY TALK FURTHER, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DEDICATED MILLAGE TO MAINTENANCE, TO FACILITIES, UM, TO PARKS AND REC TO NOW BOAT LANDINGS.
SO, UM, THOSE TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS, WHETHER, WHETHER WE DO IT AS MILLAGE OR SOME OTHER, OR WHETHER WE DO IT AS CIP, UH, TO MR. MANN'S POINT, MILLAGE,
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IF YOU SPECIFY IT AS MILLAGE, IT'S REOCCURRING UNTIL YOU TAKE THE MILLAGE OFF.IF YOU PUT IT IN THE CIP, IT'S GOOD FOR THAT ONE YEAR, BUT NOT NECESSARILY REOCCURRING IF OTHER PRIORITIES COME UP IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO I THINK IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS AS, AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MOORE HAS MORE TO SHARE ON THAT.
I JUST ECHO WHAT, WHAT YOU JUST SAID, JARED, IS THAT IF, UM, WE WANNA SET ASIDE MILLAGE CERTAIN AMOUNT PER YEAR, OBVIOUSLY DOES THAT ADDITIVE TO THE CURRENT MILLAGE AND UM, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE THE MILL OUT OF WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING, IT DOES PUT SOME PRESSURE, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE GROWTH OF A MILL IS.
BUT, UH, IN TERMS OF THESE REPAIR PROJECTS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, A CIP PROJECT, LIKE A NEW FACILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, I THINK DEDICATING FUNDING WOULD BE A WISE MOVE.
SO THAT WE HAVE SUSTAINED FUNDING.
WE ALREADY DID, UM, THE FACILITIES STUDY, SO WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN TO DO FACILITIES PROJECTS.
AND JARED, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADD, I DON'T THINK THAT INCLUDED THE, UM, UH, RAMPS AND UH, AND DOCKS.
SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SEPARATE, UM, TO THAT.
BUT CERTAINLY I THINK A, A MILLAGE DEDICATED TO THIS WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GO.
'CAUSE THEN YOU HAVE, UH, GUARANTEED FUNDING EACH YEAR AND YOU CAN PLAN THE PROJECTS.
SO POINT OUT IN TWO WEEKS, IN ONE DAY WE'LL HAVE AN ELECTION BASED UPON THE 1 CENT TRANSPORTATION TAX
JUST IT'S ON HERE FOR DISCUSSION.
WE GOT THIS, WE ASKED FOR THIS FOR A, A LITTLE BIT AND THEY PUT TOGETHER A SYSTEM.
SO I DON'T WANT THIS THEIR HARD WORK TO DIE ON A SHELF.
ONE, ONE THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE MEANINGFUL IS NOT NECESSARILY THE LIST AND THE FUNDING, BUT THE EVALUATION AND THE CRITERIA SIMILAR TO DIRT ROAD PAVING POLICY.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED BEFORE, UM, MR. DAWSON AND MR. GLOVER HAVE HELPED, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CRITERIA USED IS SUFFICIENT.
SO IF THERE'S DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAT Y'ALL WANT TO SEE THAT ISN'T REFLECTED OR WE NEED TO CHANGE POINT SYSTEM.
ONCE WE GET THAT, I THINK HAVING THAT STAMPED AND APPROVED BY COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL WOULD BE MEANINGFUL BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE A METRIC THAT WE CAN THROW ALL OF OUR PROJECTS INTO AND IT FILTERS OUT A DATA DRIVEN SIMILAR TO CTC, THE WAY THEY DO PROJECTS.
UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR CONTINUED CONVERSATION.
OR WE CAN BRING THAT UP AS A RESOLUTION OR SOMETHING LATER TO SAY, THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE BOAT LANDING PROJECTS AND THEN WE'LL DEAL WITH THE FUNDING LATER.
SO YOUR UM, CRITERIA, WHICH IS ON PAGE 53, I GET IT, BUT WE CAN'T MEASURE USAGE, YOU SAID.
SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU RATE SOMETHING WITH THREE HIGH USAGE, THAT'S ANECDOTAL.
'CAUSE PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, I ALWAYS GO TO BROAD CREEK, OR YEAH, I GO TO WINDY CREEK.
SO HOW ARE WE GONNA EVER MEASURE USAGE? 'CAUSE YOU GAVE IT A THREE AS A HIGH.
YEAH, I MEAN, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE INVESTIGATING NOW IS HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GEOFENCING AND YOU KNOW, MEASURE CELL PHONES THAT COME THROUGH IT OR IF IT'S TUBE COUNTERS OR HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY UTILIZE THAT.
UM, I WOULD SAY WE HAVE USED MORE, IT'S STILL ANECDOTAL, BUT WE'RE RELYING ON STAFF'S EXPERIENCE AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PUBLIC WORK STAFF THAT GO GET THE TRASH AT THESE LANDINGS EVERY WEEK.
I MEAN, BRAD BRADLEY'S GROWN UP HERE, I'VE GROWN UP HERE.
WE'VE ALL USED THESE LANDINGS IN, YOU KNOW, ADDITION TO TALKING TO THE REST OF THE STAFF THAT'S THERE WEEKLY, GETTING THE TRASH, CLEANING IT UP SO IT'S MORE OF, YOU KNOW, A STAFF INPUT VERSUS JUST GOING RANDOM PERSON ON THE STREET.
WHAT'S THE BUSY BOAT LANDING? SO THERE IS SOME BACKGROUND TO IT, BUT YEAH, IT IS PRETTY MUCH ANECDOTAL.
SO IT IS SOMETHING WE COULD BUILD DATA TO, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE GREAT DATA TODAY, UM, WITH A GOAL THAT, LIKE I SAID, THE GEOFENCING OR THE TUBE COUNTERS OR DIFFERENT METRICS THAT WE CAN BUILD AND WE CAN COME BACK AND REFINE THE METRICS LATER.
WE START MEASURING TODAY AND THEN IN THE FUTURE WE CAN COME BACK AND REFINE MR. GLOVER.
UM, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT BOAT LANDINGS ARE A MAJOR ASSET TO THIS COUNTY.
WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO DO IT.
UM, THE REPAIRS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO WHICH ONE IS UTILIZED MORE THAN THE OTHER.
IT'S IF MY FISHERMENS ARE USING WALLACE CREEK LANDING, UH, AND WE HAVE LESS PEOPLE GOING THERE, IT STILL NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED.
AND SO I'M GONNA STAND ON THAT.
I WOULD REALLY LOVE FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN FUND THIS, THESE BOARD LANDINGS AND HAVE A A, A LISTING OF WHERE FUNDS COULD COME FROM.
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A DEDICATED, UH, MILLAGE BECAUSE UM, THE NEXT COUNCIL MAY DECIDE WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT AND WE'LL TAKE THAT MILLAGE AWAY.I THINK WE CAN ONLY DO IT ONE, UM, BUDGET CYCLE AT A TIME IF WE'RE DEALING WITH MILLAGE.
UM, BUT I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO FIND A SOURCE AND IF WE HAVE SEVERAL WAYS OF GETTING FUNDING, THEN LET'S LOOK AT THAT AND AND DEDICATE THOSE FUNDING.
AND WHEN WE HAVE A BUDGET YEAR WHERE WE HAVE A NEED TO NOT USE THE MILLAGE OR WE GOTTA USE THIS, UM, AT TAX FUNDS OR WHATEVER AND STUFF WE CAN DO SO, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME MONEY COMING IN FROM ALL THE WAGE AND STUFF.
I THINK IF WE CAN GET SEVERAL SOURCES OF FUNDING, IT'D BE GREAT FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE OTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL IS GONNA DETERMINE THE MILLAGE ANYWAY.
ALRIGHT, GOT OUR WORK SET OUT FOR US.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT, PUTTING THE TIME AND EFFORT ON IT TOO.
[8.c. BC Connect App | One Year Service Progress Report (FISCAL IMPACT: No Fiscal Impact) - Jared Fralix and Bradley Harriott, 10 minutes]
UH, MOVING ON TO C UH, BC CONNECT APP, ONE YEAR PROGRESS REPORT.MOTION PUT ON THE FLOOR PLEASE.
WE, UH, WE WERE TASKED TO, UH, KIND OF COME UP WITH A KIND OF UPDATE OUR BC CONNECT, HOW WE RESPONDED, KIND OF GET IT CLEANED UP AND KIND OF GET IT BACK UP TO PAR, IF YOU WILL.
WE WERE, UM, KIND OF EIGHT BALL.
THERE WAS A LOT OF OUTSTANDING, UM, ITEMS ON THERE THAT HAD JUST BEEN GOING ON AND BEEN ON THERE FOR YEARS.
WE KIND OF WANTED TO GO IN AND GET IT CLEANED UP AND KIND OF GET IT BACK TO SQUARE RUN.
SO JUST TO, UM, I'LL GIVE A THANKS TO MATT.
UM, HE'S HERE TODAY AND HE ACTUALLY KIND OF PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR US.
UM, COMPARED THE NUMBERS FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AGO TO TILL TODAY OR TILL THIS PAST SEPTEMBER.
UM, SO ANYHOW, JUST GETTING INTO BC CONNECT HERE, YOU CAN KIND OF MOVE THROUGH THE NEXT ONE THERE.
UM, THIS IS HOW YOU GET ON BC CONNECT.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT.
JUST GET INTO SOME OF THE NUMBERS HERE.
SO JUST A YEAR AT A GLANCE, UH, 799 REQUESTS WERE SUBMITTED.
UM, WE CLOSED, 91% OF THOSE HAVE BEEN CLOSED.
UM, THE MEDIAN TIME TO CLOSE WAS 2.8 DAYS, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD NUMBER.
UM, 67, 60 7% WERE CLOSED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS.
UM, AND THEN OF OLDER REQUESTS, 97, THOSE WERE THE UNRESOLVED WE THAT WE KIND OF GOT RID OF BACK IN, UH, 25 IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH AND GOT A BUNCH OF REQUESTS THAT WERE JUST VERY OUTDATED AND NOTHING HAD BEEN DONE WITH 'EM FOR, FOR YEARS.
SO WE KIND OF CLEANED THAT UP A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF STARTED FROM SQUARE ONE.
UM, THE KEY FINDINGS ON THIS, UM, REQUESTS WERE RESOLVED QUICKLY.
UM, I THINK WE USED TO GET KIND OF BEAT UP A LITTLE BIT, ESPECIALLY WITH POLL WORKS THAT WE DIDN'T RESPOND VERY QUICKLY, BUT WE DID FIND THAT WE DID RESPOND, UM, FAIRLY QUICKLY.
UM, WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THE DEMAND.
91% OF NEW REQUESTS WERE CLOSED.
UM, OF THOSE WERE 303 WERE THE OLDER ONES THAT WE WERE CLOSED IN SEPTEMBER.
SO KIND OF SOME REPEATED DATA THERE.
WE JUST WANTED TO KEEP THAT UP THERE.
UM, THE THREE DEPARTMENTS THAT CARRY THE LOAD WERE PUBLIC WORKS.
I SAY POLAR WORKS IS DEPARTMENT AND DIVISIONS SOLID WASTE RECYCLING.
STORM WATER HANDLES 77% OF THOSE REQUESTS.
UM, TOP CITIZEN NEEDS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, LITTER AND ILLEGAL DUMPING.
UH, MS. KELLY RESPONDS TO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, EVERY DAY THAT WE GET, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS.
THEY COME IN A LOT ON THE WEEKENDS, PEOPLE ARE OUT AND ABOUT AND I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE SEE 'EM.
UM, UNINCORPORATED BEAUTIFUL COUNTY GENERATED 69% OF THOSE REQUESTS.
SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GRAPH DATA OF RECEIVED, UM, ENCLOSURES.
UM, 30, 36% WERE AFTER HOURS, SO NOT A LOT OF AFTER HOURS, BUT, BUT WE DID GET SOME NEXT SARAH, UH, THIS KIND OF BREAKS IT DOWN.
UM, PER MUNICIPALITY, UH, UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY, WE GOT 69% OF 'EM.
TOWN OF BLUFFTON, 17%, UH, TOWN OF HILTON HEAD, WE ONLY HAD 58 REQUESTS AND CITY OF BEAUFORT HAD 37 REQUESTS.
PORT ROYAL, PORT ROYAL HAD, UH, HAD 10.
SO, UM, AND, AND, AND THOSE MUNICIPALITIES TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THOSE REQUESTS AND HOW SUE 'CAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN APPS AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WAY OF REPORTING.
NEXT, PLEASE, UM, REQUEST BY DEPARTMENT.
SO JUST BREAKING THIS DOWN PER DEPARTMENT, UM, PULL WORKS 2 69, UH, 1 98 FOR SOLID WASTE.
STORMWATER HAD 147 IF YOU GO DOWN TO SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
TRAFFIC ENGINEERING 87, OTHERS WERE 54.
BUT THEY ALSO USE A DIFFERENT SYSTEM ON HOW THEY'RE REPORTING.
UM, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T REUSE BC CONNECT AS MUCH AS THEY HAVE THEIR OWN KIND OF SYSTEM.
UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT 19 AND FACILITIES THREE.
SO THESE WERE JUST KIND OF BY DEPARTMENT AND, AND, UM, AND HOW WE PERFORMED.
SO THEY'RE VERY REACTIVE, SOLID WASTE RECYCLING IS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT RECYCLING STORM WATER.
THEIRS ARE KIND OF SLOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT, UM, THAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET A CALL IN FOR A CLOGGED DITCH OR C CLOGG PIPE THAT IN TURNS WE HAVE
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TO CALL LOCATES IN.WE HAVE TO GET LOCATES CLEARED BEFORE WE CAN DIG.
SO A LOT MORE DIGGING INVOLVED THERE.
SO IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE MORE TIME TO REACT AND GET THOSE CLOSED OUT.
UM, LIKE I SAID, MOSQUITO CONTROL, UM, NOT A REAL GOOD NUMBER THERE 'CAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T REALLY USE THE SYSTEM AS MUCH.
RESPONSE 30%, UH, CLOSED WITHIN ONE DAY, 66% AND SEVEN DAYS AND THEN 5% TOOK LONGER THAN 90 DAYS.
UM, A LOT OF THOSE, LIKE I SAID, GO BACK TO SOME OF THOSE STORM WATER CALLS THAT WE JUST, IT TAKES A WHILE IT TURNS INTO A PROJECT.
AND THE MEDIAN DAYS, AGAIN, 2.8 DAYS, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD NUMBER.
AND THIS KINDA EXPLAINS WHY IT TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER ON SOME OF 'EM WOULD STORM WATER.
IT JUST KIND OF, KIND OF BREAKS THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT ON THE MEDIAN DAYS.
UM, SO TOP REQUEST AGAIN, ILLEGAL DUMPING, LITTER CONTROL, UM, TAKES CARE OF A LOT OF THOSE, UM, CALLS, UM, POTHOLES, GOOD BIT OF POTHOLES OUT THERE.
THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE WORKING ON AND IT'LL COME INTO A NEXT SLIDE IS TRYING TO GIVE MORE.
UH, WE, WE'VE ACTUALLY MET WITH MR. DAN MORGAN, HIS CREW TO MAYBE GET SOME MORE, UM, REQUEST TYPES ON THERE FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY SET UP PUTTING OTHER IN THERE AND THEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS.
SO JUST SOME OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UM, AND THIS WAS JARED KIND OF TASKED US WITH THIS IN THE BEGINNING ALONG WITH MR. MOORE, UM, TO ESTABLISH A TEAM AND A TEAM LEADER.
SO PAM COBB KIND OF, UH, MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, SHE KIND OF TOOK THIS, YOU KNOW, BULL BY THE HORNS, UM, AND REALLY DUG INTO IT WITH THE HELP OF JOANNA ZORN AND MS. WANDA RIVERS.
UM, THEY REALLY GOT INTO IT AND STARTED, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT EVERY REQUEST IN THERE AND FIGURE OUT WHERE IT WAS AT, WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO WITH IT.
DO WE NEED TO GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH THE CITIZEN AND ALL JUST KIND, KIND OF PRIORITIZE ALL THOSE LIKE THAT.
THERE WAS 303 REQUESTS THAT WERE JUST SITTING OUT THERE.
UM, ROUTING UPDATE WORK WITH IT TO UPDATE THE REQUEST ROUTING AND KIND OF HAVE JUST, IT WAS SOME OF THE STUFF WASN'T GOING INTO THE PROPER PLACES, SO WORK WITH THEM TO GET THAT DONE.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAD SEVERAL IN-HOUSE TRAINING, UM, WITH STAFF MEMBERS THAT RESPOND TO THESE CALLS AND HOW TO RESPOND TO 'EM.
AND UM, SO HAD IN-HOUSE TRAINING THERE.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY STILL WORKING WITH IT, UM, ON SOME IMPROVEMENTS, ENHANCEMENTS TO THE SYSTEM.
AND ALSO WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT, UM, GOING TO SOME DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT SYSTEM.
UM, BC CONNECT'S NOT A BAD SYSTEM, BUT IT'S OLD AND ANTIQUATED.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO SOME, SOME NEW SYSTEMS THERE.
AND THEN WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
CLOSED OUT 799 OR RECEIVED 799 AND CLOSED OUT, YOU KNOW, 942.
AND OF THAT 9 42 OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A BUNCH THAT WERE OLD.
UM, AND THE COMING YEAR WE'LL JUST KEEP MAINTAINING CONSISTENT PERFORMANCE AND CONTINUE TO UPGRADE ON THE SYSTEM.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRADLEY? NICE.
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TRENDING THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
HOW YOU, HOW YOU RECEIVED 7 99 AND CLOSED OUT 900.
THOSE WERE A LOT OF OLD CALLS THAT WERE ON THERE THAT WE HAD TO, WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND CLOSED THEM OUT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE RECEIVED SO MANY OLD, A LOT OF THOSE OLDER REQUESTS, WE WENT AHEAD AND CLOSED THOSE OUT AND THAT'S WHY IT ENDED UP WITH MORE CLOSED THAN RECEIVED.
AND JUST, JUST ONE QUESTION REGARDING LIKE, ALL JOY IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
IT FLOODS DOWN THERE EVERY TIME IT RAINS THERE'S A KING TIDE.
SO HOW DO YOU RESOLVE THOSE WHEN THERE IS NO RESOLUTION TO IT? SO WHEN THEY SEND YOU A PICTURE AND IT'S FLOODED, SO HOW, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR, AND SO WE WOULD GO ON THAT ONE, WE WOULD GO BACK AND, AND WE REFERRED THAT BACK TO UM, THERE WAS A BIG TIDE WE HAD, YOU KNOW, HAD A KING TIDE AND IT RAINED AT THE SAME TIME.
SO WE WOULD JUST GO BACK IN AND UPDATE THAT AS THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
IT WAS A, IT WAS A LOCALIZED FLOODING, IT LASTED FOR 24 HOURS.
UH, WE WENT BACK OUT AND CHECKED IT AFTER 24 48 HOURS AND THE FLOODING WAS, HAS DISSIPATED.
SO THAT'S HOW WE WOULD RESPOND TO THAT.
WE HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS HERE TO RUN THROUGH AS WELL.
MOST OF 'EM ARE PRETTY SIMPLE.
[8.d. Approval of a Resolution for a Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) with the Town of Bluffton for the Construction of Holly Hill Road (FISCAL IMPACT: The estimated construction cost is not expected to exceed $2,000,000. The County’s obligation will cover 50 percent of the overall project cost, capped at $1,000,000. This amount will be funded by account 2005-60-0000-54420, which currently has a balance of $1,284,520.00. ) - Jared Fralix, Assistant County Administrator (5 min)]
UM, APPROVAL OF OUR RESOLUTION FOR AN MOA WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOLLY HILL ROAD.MR. LAWSON, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS ONE BEFORE.
THIS IS MORE OF JUST A CHANGE.
UM, THE DEVELOPER ALREADY IS GONNA BEGIN PART OF THE ROAD.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST AN MOA BETWEEN THE TWO OF US INSTEAD OF THE THREE OF US.
SO WE DID THE ENGINEERING, THIS IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, THE OVERALL INTENT IS THAT THE PROJECT WAS AROUND $3 MILLION AND WE GO IN UM, THREE WAY SPLIT.
AND SO WE'VE DONE THE ENGINEERING, THE DEVELOPER HAS CHANGED, HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THE SECOND PART OF IT.
SO IT'S NOW JUST THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY FOR THE LAST TWO THIRDS.
SO ULTIMATELY WE EACH WOULD SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS JUST IN A DIFFERENT FASHION IN DISCUSSION.
THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS REACHED OUT TO MIKE, PROBABLY TOLD YOU THE ADMINISTRATOR, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING AT THE BARN BECAUSE ALSTON PARK AND HERITAGE ARE VERY EXCITED
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ABOUT THIS.IT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC THAT BACKS UP AT MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL AND IT'LL ALSO HELP OUT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT BACK 3 46 BECAUSE THOSE RESIDENTS CAN CUT THROUGH THE BACK ROAD HERE TO GET TO THE SCHOOLS.
CAN THIS BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION.
[8.e. Approval of a Contract to O'Quinn Marine Construction for Broad River Boat Landing floating dock replacement ($217,500) (FISCAL IMPACT: The contract fee for materials and construction is $197,500.00. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $19,750.00 for a total requested budget of $217,250.00. The funding for this project is from Broad River Boat Ramp Improvement Project A/H award, account # 2001-10-0000-57130-RIVER, with a balance of $400,000.00.) - Bryan Bauer, PE, (5 minutes)]
MOVE ON TO E APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT TO OAK QUINN MARINE CONSTRUCTION FOR BROAD RIVER BOAT LANDING FLOATING DOCK REPLACEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $217,500.I SECOND SECONDED BY MR. DAWSON.
SO THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FLOAT AT BROAD RIVER BOAT LANDING.
THIS WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT AS BEING A NEEDING BE REPLACED AND A SAFETY ISSUE.
UM, I ALSO WOULD POINT OUT THAT THIS ROSE TO NUMBER ONE ON THE PRIORITIZATION THAT WE WERE JUST GIVEN.
UM, AND THE TOTAL IS 1 9 7 500 FOR THE CONTRACT PLUS A 10% CONTINGENCY.
SO THE TOTAL REQUEST IS 2 17, 2 50.
THIS IS BEING FUNDED BY AH, WITH A BUDGET OF 400,000.
UM, AND I WILL JUST ADD THAT THIS WAS SIMILAR TO THE PROJECT WE JUST DID ON STATION CREEK TO REPLACE THE FLOATS OUT THERE.
THAT ONE WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH 'CAUSE IT WAS TAKING IT FROM A STRAIGHT FLOAT TO AN L AND THAT ONE JUST OPENED BACK UP TO THE PUBLIC LAST WEEK, A COUPLE WEEKS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
ANY QUESTIONS? PRICING STILL AROUND THE SAME AS THAT OTHER PROJECT YOU DID.
ANY QUESTIONS? LEMME PRESS, YOU GOT SIX BIDS.
YEAH, I, I WAS TOO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MARINE STUFF, AS MUCH AS WE DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT, WE'RE SEEING MORE RESPONSE ON THOSE THAN WE ARE OTHER, UM, OTHER PROJECTS AND I'LL SAY ON THE, THIS IS A DIFFERENT CON CONTRACTOR THAN ONE, THE STATION CREEK ONE.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING SOME COMPETITION THERE.
SO CAN THIS BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION? YES.
[8.f. Approval of a Contract to Nix Construction for the construction of the Bailey Memorial Park Project ($1,982,400.00). (FISCAL IMPACT: A Contract to Nix Construction for the construction of the Bailey Memorial Park Project ($1,982,400.00) (FISCAL IMPACT: The contract fee is for the construction of the Bailey Memorial Park in the amount of $1,652,000.00 plus a 20% contingency ($330,400.00), bringing the total request to $1,982,400.00. The funding for this project will be from the 2025 GO Bond in the GL account 4013-80-1610-54420 in the amount of ($1,982,400.00) and the account balance is ($5,940,912.00). ) - Ron Lewis, Facilities Management Project Manager II, (5 mins)]
MOVE ON TO F APPROVAL OF CONTRACT.THE NICKS CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF BAILEY MEMORIAL PARK PROJECT.
UH, TO HAVE A MOTION TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR.
AND I'M SURE THE QUESTION'S GONNA COME UP OF WHY THIS IS A 20% CONTINGENCY INSTEAD OF OUR NORMAL 10
UM, THIS PROJECT'S, UH, TYPICALLY BEEN HANDLED BY ELIZABETH, WHO'S, WHO'S UH, OUT RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M, I'M RON LEWIS AND I'M, I'M GONNA BE WORKING THIS PROJECT AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW THE BACKGROUND OF WHY THERE'S, WHY THAT WAS CHOSEN TO DO A 20% CONTINGENCY.
I THINK THAT THERE IS A VERY GOOD DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT, SO I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S, UM, THE POTENTIAL MAYBE FOR THAT.
BUT, UH, IT IS OVER THERE OFF CONFEDERATE ROAD IN, IN BLUFFTON IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF WHERE THIS AREA IS.
AND SO, UM, THE, UH, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TOTAL IS THE 1.9824, AND THERE THERE IS A 20% CONTINGENCY.
IF WE DON'T USE THAT, WE WON'T SPEND THAT.
UH, MARK, DID YOU WANNA, I KNOW USUALLY YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
YEAH, THIS IS ONE THAT HAS, UM, WHEN I FIRST GOT ON IS WHEN WE FIRST PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS EIGHT YEARS IN THE COMING AND I KEEP BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S, IT'S IN THE TOP, TOP 10 AND THE TOP FIVE.
AND SO HERE WE ARE FINALLY UP FOR THIS.
UM, IT IS 40 ACRES AND UM, AGAIN, IN, IN THE HEART OF THAT BLUFFTON AREA, WHICH AGAIN, UM, SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE'VE PUSHED FOR, BEEN PATIENT FOR, AND WE'LL SEE IT'S NOW COMING FORWARD.
SO AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT'S COMING AGAIN, THAT WE HAVE WAITED THE TIME FOR THIS PROJECT TO, TO ACTUALLY START AND, AND MOVE FORWARD FOR, FOR THE ENTIRE PARK.
I'M SORRY, I SHOULD ASK OR IT'S A PASSIVE PARK.
SO IT, THIS IS FOR, YOU GOT THAT PART, BUT IS THERE MORE TO COME? I DON'T THINK SO.
THERE WAS ANYTHING PLANNED THAT THIS, THIS IS PARKING AREA AND THEN, UM, BATHROOMS. I DON'T THINK IT HAS BATHROOMS ACTUALLY DOES HAVE, NO, THERE'S A WILDLIFE BLIND, THERE'S A TRAIL, THERE'S SOME, UH, MINOR AMOUNT OF FENCING TO BE DONE.
PARKING FOR CARS AND GOLF CARTS.
UH, THERE IS A GATE SIMILAR TO THE GATE AT WIDGE AND POINT, UM, AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF ELEVATED BOARDWALK OVER YES.
AREA THAT NEEDS THE BOARDWALK.
IT IS MOSTLY TRAILS, BUT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH SOME WETLAND AREAS, WHICH THEN YOU'D HAVE TO BUILD THE, THE, THE BOARDWALK TO MAKE IT CONTIGUOUS THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH AND, AND, AND MAKE THAT TRIP THROUGH.
SINCE WE'RE PUTTING A NEW GATE UP, CAN YOU PUT A, A COUNTER ON THE GATE? I MEAN, WE HAVE TO START SEEING HOW MANY PEOPLE USE ALL THESE PARKS.
WE'RE SPENDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY ON PASSIVE PARKS AND WHEN STEPHANIE
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WAS HERE, SHE COULDN'T ANSWER HOW MANY PEOPLE USE EVERY ONE OF THESE PARKS? I'M NOT, I'M NOT, NOT THAT'S A RHETORICAL QUESTION FOR YOU.WE DO HAVE DATA COUNTERS AND WE COLLECT IT CURRENTLY AT THREE PROPERTIES.
SO YES, WE DO HAVE THE CAPABILITY.
SO THIS ONE WE'LL BE ABLE TO GAUGE THIS.
YEAH, I MEAN TO POINT PROPERTY, TO BUILD ABLE TO PASSIVE PARK, WE HAVE LIKE 20 MORE THAT ARE WAITING.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PASSIVE PARKS ALREADY IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BOAT RAMPS THAT NEED FIXING.
UM, $2 MILLION FOR PARKING AND BOARDWALK AND A GATE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
RIGHT? UM, YEAH, I I WOULD IMAGINE THIS IS GONNA GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL OBVIOUSLY.
UM, I'D IMAGINE THERE'S GONNA BE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT 10% AND WE WON'T BELABOR THAT POINT TODAY.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT DOES KIND OF GET ME A LITTLE BIT, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS PROJECT BEING SO SIMPLE, THEORETICALLY SIMPLE.
I SAY THAT, I KNOW WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH WETLANDS AND STUFF, BUT, UM, ALRIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION, BUT UM, YOU SAID WE'RE MONITORING ATTENDANCE AT THREE PARKS.
WE HAVE THEM AT WI, WE HAVE THEM AT FORT FREMONT AND I THINK WE HAVE 'EM ONE OTHER PLACE THAT I CAN WHITE HALL MAYBE, MAYBE WHITEHALL OR THE CITY.
COULD YOU BRING US THAT DATA WHEN YOU HAVE IT? YES.
BECAUSE I'M VERY CURIOUS WHO'S USING ALL THESE PARKS.
CRYSTAL LAKE IS THE OTHER ONE.
WHAT'S CRYSTAL LAKE? OH YEAH, CRYSTAL LAKE.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL, UM, UH, BY SHOW OF HANDS, ALL IN FAVOR AND THOSE OPPOSED ALRIGHTY.
I'M TIRED OF FUNDING PASSIVE PARTS.
THAT IS APPROVED WITH ONE OBJECTION.
[8.g. Approval of a contract award to Nix Construction Inc. for the design and build of a Pedestrian Walkway and Bridge Project at the Hilton Head Island Airport ($243,000.00) (FISCAL IMPACT: The South Carolina Aeronautics Commission (SCAC) will fund 100% of the total cost ($243,000.00) of the Pedestrian Walkway and Bridge Project through an Entitlement Grant. Funding Source: GL 5402-90-0000-57130 Balance: $10,325,948.44 CONTINGENT UPON FINAL SCAC GRANT APPROVAL (anticipated 11/2026)) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director, 3 minutes]
ALRIGHT, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE FOR APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT AWARD.NICKS CONSTRUCTION FOR THE DESIGN AND BUILD OF A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY AND BRIDGE PROJECT TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT.
JARED IS GONNA TAKE THIS FOR US TODAY.
THIS, UH, JOHN AND STEVEN WITH AIRPORTS, THEY'RE AT A CONFERENCE THIS WEEK, SO I'M FILLING IN FOR THEM.
UM, THIS TOO IS NICK'S CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT'S MUCH LESS THAN $2 MILLION.
THIS IS TO TIE THE PARKING LOT.
UM, THERE'S A SMALL SWALE AND GRADE CHANGE THAT'S GOT TO GO FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THE NEW TERMINAL, UM, THAT WE'VE JUST UPGRADED.
AND SO THIS IS ACTUALLY RFP THAT WAS DONE.
THEY WERE EVALUATED AND THEN THEY, UM, PROVIDE THEIR COST PROPOSAL.
SO OVERALL THEY'RE THE HIGHEST RANK QUALIFIED FIRM.
AND UM, WE HAD SIX BIDDERS, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 BIDDERS, EXCUSE ME.
AND, UM, THE TOTAL VALUE THERE IS 243.
THE GOOD THING IS THIS WOULD BE PAID FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT FROM SCAC.
SO, UM, PENDING OTHERS, SO FAA AND, AND SOUTH CAROLINA AERONAUTICS COMMISSION, THEY LIKE TO HAVE THE FINAL PRICE BEFORE THEY OFFER THE, THE GRANT.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THE FINAL PRICE, THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THEM ON THE GRANT AGREEMENT AND THEN THEY'LL ACCEPT THE GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THIS.
SO IT'LL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT PAID FOR WITH OUR ENTITLEMENT FUNDS FROM STATE FUNDS.
UH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS IT LOOKS LIKE IT SHOULD BE APPROVED IN NOVEMBER BY THEM FOR THE GRANT.
I KNOW JOHN HAS THOSE TIMELINES.
IS IT POSSIBLE MS. HOWARD, IF NEED BE FOR US TO ADD IT TO YOUR COUNTY COUNCIL AGENDA? IF IT COMES FROM THAT TIME? I, YOU'D HAVE TO LET US KNOW.
YEAH, WE, WE'LL 'CAUSE I, I MEAN WE DID DO THE AGENDA LAST WEEK, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHY I KNOW WELL IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THEN IT WOULDN'T BE ON THE AGENDA TILL DECEMBER.
SO I JUST DON'T WANT JOHN GETTING STUCK WITHOUT APPROVAL ON THIS BECAUSE OF OUR TIMELINE.
WELL, SO WE WOULDN'T, THIS WOULD GET APPROVED AT COUNCIL, UM, BUT IT WOULD NOT GET SIGNED AND, AND CONTRACT ISSUED UNTIL WE GET THE GRANT AGREEMENT FROM SCAC.
DOESN'T JOHN SOMETIMES GET TIMES WHERE THEY TELL ME HE HAS LIKE SEVEN AND 14 DAYS ON THE GRANT TO SIGN AND APPROVE GRANT, BUT IF WE DON'T MEET AT COUNCIL AND THIS DOESN'T GET APPROVED BY COUNCIL BEFORE HIS DUE DATE ON THE GRANT, HE CAN LOSE THE GRANT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T PUT 'EM IN THAT SITUATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IT'S GONNA MEET THAT OR NOT, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT THAT COULD FALL THAT WAY.
ANY OBJECTION TO APPROVING THIS? THIS WILL ALSO BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION, UH,
[8.h. Approval of Change Orders 1 and 2 for Beaufort Executive Airport Hangar Construction Project - Site Development ($288,393.61) (FISCAL IMPACT: The total value of Change Orders No. 1 and No. 2 is $288,393.61, increasing the contract amount from $1,982,494.99 to $2,270,888.60. The change orders will be charged to airport funds under the following account: GL Code: 5102-90-0000-57130 | SCAC Grant - Current Balance: $1,157,357.73 GL Code: 5100-90-0000-54100 | ARPA Grant - Current Balance: $1,019,233.48 ) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director, 3 minutes]
APPROVAL OF CHANGE ORDERS ONE AND TWO FOR BUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HANGER CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND SITE DEVELOPMENT.A MOTION TO PUT THAT ON THE FLOOR AS WELL.
AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IS ALSO BY ARPA AND SCAC FOR FUNDING.
YEAH, SO THIS IS THE SITE WORK ELEMENT.
REMEMBER THERE'S FOUR HANGERS, UM, TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH FIRST THE SITE WORK.
AND THEN SECONDLY, WE'RE, WE'RE COMING THROUGH WITH THE HANGERS.
SO THIS IS THE SITE WHERE THIS IS, UM, REMAINING WORK
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TO BE COMPLETED.UM, THE FIRST ONE ADDRESSES SOME CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH SOME UTILITIES.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS SOME SUB-GRADE ISSUES.
SO, UM, BOTH OF THESE ARE, UM, FUNDED THROUGH SCAC AND THEN, UM, WHICH AERON, NOT ITS COMMISSION GRANT AND THEN ARPA FUNDS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE ITEMS MR. LAWSON WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT THE OTHER MILLION DOLLARS BEING FUNDED THAT SHOWS THAT STELLY ACCOUNT.
BUT IT WAS COMING UP INTO THIS RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN ALSO THESE, THIS, THESE ARE COMING TO, UM, COUNSEL BECAUSE COLLECTIVELY THEY'RE GREATER THAN THE 10% CONTINGENCY THAT WE HAD ON THE CONTRACT MUST BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION.
THIS IS ALSO APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION.
UM, NOW THE THIS DO HAVE TO GO TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL.
BASED OFF THE VALUE AND THE, IT'S GREATER THAN A 10% CONTINGENCY.
BUT IT DOESN'T STOP THE CONTRACTOR FROM CONTINUING TO WORK.
YEAH, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THE CHANGE ORDER FULLY SIGNED.
SO THE OPERA FUNDS HERE IS A SUBJECT.
BUT EVEN WITH, YEAH, THE ARPA FUNDS, UM, WILL HAVE TO BE EXPENDED BEFORE THE END.
THIS STUFF WON'T TAKE LONG ONCE ONCE FULLY APPROVED.
UM, THIS IS TO FINISH UP THE SITE WORK AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO FINISHING UP THE SITE WORK.
[8.i. Approval of Task Order to McSweeney Design for the Melrose Ferry Dock Replacement Design ($946,962.50) (FISCAL IMPACT: The contract amount will be $860,875.00 to McSweeney Engineers. Staff recommends a 10% contingency for a total budget request of $946,962.50 to come from account # 2002-10-0000-54500-CIP which has a current amount of $1,432,085.00, and account 4000-80-1243-54500-27007 which has an amount of $150,000.) - Bryan Bauer, P.E., ENV SP, Director (5 minutes)]
ALRIGHT.GONNA, I APPROVAL A TASK ORDER FOR MCSWEENEY DESIGN FOR MELROSE FERRY DOCK REPLACEMENT DESIGN MOTION PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS GONNA BE FOR THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THE MELROSE FERRY DOCK ON DUSKY.
SO WE HAVE COMPLETED THE SHORT TERM IMPROVEMENTS TO GET IT UP TO A SAFE AND, UM, USABLE CONDITION, UM, FOR A PUBLIC FERRY.
SO THAT WILL GET US THROUGH THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
AND SO THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR THE FINAL DESIGN.
UM, AND PERMITTING FOR THAT, WE HAVE HELD A STAKEHOLDER MEETING ON THE ISLAND, UM, TO GET FEEDBACK ON WHAT NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED.
SO WE HAVE WORKED WITH MCSWEENEY, UH, THEY HAVE GONE BACK AND RE UM, UPDATED THEIR SCOPE ONCE BASED ON, UM, OUR COMMENTS, UM, AND WAS ABLE TO DECREASE THAT PRICE A LITTLE BIT.
THIS INCLUDES BOTH THE WATERSIDE AND THE UPLAND.
SO THE PORTION FOR THE MARINE, FOR THE ACTUAL DOCK AND PIER HEAD IS 865,000 8 75.
AND THE UPLAND, WHICH INCLUDES, IT, INCLUDES BASICALLY, UH, SMALL WELCOME CENTER AND RESTROOM AND THEN PARKING IMPROVEMENTS IS 360 9.
UM, SO THAT BRINGS THE TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT TO 8 68 75 AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING 10% CONTINGENCY.
SO THE TOTAL ASK IS, UH, 946, ALMOST NINE $47,000 BEING FUNDED OUT OF THE PREVIOUS, UM, AH, AWARD.
SO ANY QUESTIONS? AND THIS IS FULLY FUNDED IN THE ACCOUNTS, THE TWO COUNTS LISTED ALREADY.
THIS WILL BE APPROVED WITH NO OBJECTION.
AND THIS IS ALSO APPROVED RYAN,
[8.j. Approval of change order to Parrish & Partners for the Burnt Church Pathway ($63,936) (FISCAL IMPACT: The change order for additional engineering services for redesign of a portion of the project sidewalk is $58,126. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $5,810 for a total budget increase of $63,936. The funding for this project is from Account No. 4705-80-0000- 54500 PTHWY with a current balance of $17,226,840.32) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering (5 min)]
UH, APPROVED OF A CHANGE ORDER TO PARISH AND PARTNERS FOR THE BURNT CHURCH PATHWAY.SO THIS IS JUST A CHANGE ORDER TO PARISH PARTNERS DESIGN CONTRACT TO ADD IN, UM, RIGHT OF WAY SERVICES AND GEOTECHNICAL FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE CONTRACT IS 58,126 WITH A 10% CONTINGENCY.
SO THE TOTAL ASK IS JUST SOUTH OF 64,000.
UM, SO THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY FOR A FULL WIDENING AND A PATHWAY DOWN, UH, THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
BUT WHEN, UH, THE SALES TAX WERE RE WAS REPRIORITIZED LAST YEAR, IT WAS REDUCED IN SCOPE TO JUST A SIDEWALK.
SO THAT TOOK THE ORIGINAL COST FROM 1.5 MILLION TO LESS THAN ONE 50.
SO WE'RE STILL SUBSTANTIALLY UNDER WHAT THE ORIGINAL COST WAS, EVEN WITH THIS CHANGE ORDER.
UM, SO THIS IS BEING NECESSITATED BY, I BELIEVE IT'S ONE POLE THAT IS IN RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO WORK AROUND.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? AND THIS IS FUNDED BY THE SALES TAX OF 2018.
MARK, THIS IS WHERE WE WERE AT THE, UH, RILEY SCHOOL WITH THE DESIGN.
THAT WAS THAT ONE AT RILEY SCHOOL WAS, UM, UM, YES IT IS BECAUSE, OH, IT'S THIS, RIGHT? YES.
BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THE STATE, UM, HAD PLANNED ON SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND ACTUALLY WIDENING IT AND PUT BIKE PATHS IN AND, AND, UM, AS WELL AS SIDEWALKS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.
THEY HAD, THEY PUT A CIRCLE IN AND THE STATE BACKED OUT OF THEIR FUNDING FOR THIS.
OH, AND THAT WAS AGAIN, PREVIOUS TO THE ONE YOU WENT TO, WHICH NOW THIS IS JUST A, A BIKE PATH.
'CAUSE THIS WAS LIKE ONE OF THE, THE, THE, THE FIRST, UM, OF THE BIKE PATHS,
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UM, ORIGINALLY ON THE 2018 1 CENT SALES TAX, UM, THAT, THAT OCCURRED.THIS BE APPROVED, NO OBJECTION.
[8.k. Approval of a Resolution authorizing the County Administrator to pursue condemnation for a portion of a parcel as specified on EXHIBIT “A” associated with right of way acquisition for Lady’s Island Middle School Access Road as part of the 2018 One Cent Referendum. (FISCAL IMPACT: Condemnation expenses range from $5,000 - $15,000 plus owner compensation for R/W. The compensation for the parcel is specified on attached EXHIBIT “A” as $465,700. The condemnation will be funded by 2018 One Cent Referendum Account # 4705-80-0000-54500- LIMP with a current balance of $26,099,305.22.) - Bryan Bauer, PE, Director of Engineering (5 min)]
I ENTER OUR LAST ITEM APPROVAL RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PURSUE CONDEMNATION FOR A PORTION OF A PARCEL SPECIFIED AS EXHIBIT A ASSOCIATED WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION FOR LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL ACCESS ROAD AS PART OF THE 2018 1 CENT REFERENDUM.PUT THAT ON THE FLOOR OF THE MOTION.
ALICE, THIS IS THE ONE YOU WERE BRINGING UP, UM, LAST TIME.
SO THIS IS PERMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONDEMNATION ON THE LAST PARCEL REQUIRED FOR THE LAY ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL PROPERTY.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH RIGHT AWAY NEGOTIATIONS WITH THIS PARCEL FOR A WHILE.
UM, AND THEY HAVE BECOME NON-RESPONSIVE.
I CHECKED AGAIN ON FRIDAY TO SEE IF WE HAD GOT RESPONSE BACK AND WE HAVE NOT.
THE TOTAL FEE FOR COMPENSATION FOR THE PARCEL IS FOUR 65,700 WITH AN ESTIMATED FIVE TO 15,000 IN CONDEMNATION EXPENSES.
UM, THIS PARCEL BASICALLY STOPS THE PROJECT.
WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UTILITY RELOCATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED WITHOUT THIS PARCEL.
UM, IT WAS ASKED PREVIOUSLY WHAT THE COST OF THE RELOCATIONS WAS.
UM, THE UTILITY AGREEMENT WITH DOMINION IS $264,617.
UM, THAT WAS APPROVED AT PFC IN NOVEMBER 18TH, 2024.
UM, AND THAT'S BASICALLY 'CAUSE THREE OF THOSE TRANSMISSION LINE POLES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR HAVE TO BE MOVED TO FACILITATE THE NEW INTERSECTION.
UM, SO THIS IS AGAIN, JUST REQUESTING PERMISSION MOVE FORWARD WITH CONDEMNATION ON THIS TRACK.
NO, BUT I WOULD REITERATE THIS IS FROM 2018 REFERENDUM AND WHEN PEOPLE SAY WHY AREN'T THE PROJECTS DONE RIGHT OF WAY BECOMES ONE OF OUR MAJOR ISSUES.
AND HERE'S THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS ONE, UH, I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHEN RIGHT AWAY BEGAN RIGHT OFF HAND, BUT IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE AND WE'VE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THIS PARCEL OWNER GONE THROUGH, I BELIEVE TWO TIMES AT LEAST, AND JUST BECOME NON-RESPONSIVE.
SO JUST QUESTION ARE, ARE THERE, WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE HOLD UP? WAS THERE JUST A, A DISAGREEMENT OF VALUE OR? I I HEARD YOU SAY NON-RESPONSIVE, BUT I BELIEVE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE IS BACK HERE.
OH, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
I KNOW WE SENT THE LAST, UH, NEGOTIATION AND THEN THEY FOLLOWED UP WITH A 10 DAY SETTLEMENT LETTER AND NO RESPONSE.
AND I FOLLOWED UP AGAIN WITH OUR PROGRAM MANAGER ON FRIDAY AND WAS TOLD THAT THEY HAD NOT RESPONDED.
SO I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO WHY THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING.
IS IS IT AN APPRAISAL VALUE DIFFERENCE? I MEAN, I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT IN THE FEE, BUT I CAN'T SAY IF THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING OR NOT.
UM, I DON'T LIKE CONDEMNATIONS.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD JUST FOR, UM, US TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE LANDOWNER.
UH, HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS? I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND OKAY.
I'M NOT SURE RIGHT OFF HAND, BUT I GET THAT INFORMATION RIGHT.
BUT I, I, I REALLY WANT TO, HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK WITH THE LANDOWNERS, UH, BEFORE WE GO THROUGH A WHOLE PROCESS OF CONDEMNATION.
UM, SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION JUST FOR DISCUSSION AND ENGAGEMENT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN START ENGAGING WITH THE UH, YEAH, I MEAN IF, IF WE COULD, BUT I DON'T LIKE CONDEMNATION, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
WE WORK IT OUT WITHOUT CONDEMNATION.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED BY EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU THAT, THAT WAS MY THING TOO.
'CAUSE I THINK ATTORNEYS GOT INVOLVED OF, I REMEMBER WE MET, IT'S BEEN A WHILE, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO ACTUALLY.
UH, I KNOW THIS PROJECT IS IMPORTANT.
I KNOW IT'S GOING TO, I KNOW IT'S NEEDED FOR THE SCHOOL.
UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT ANY FURTHER DELAYS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M, I'M HESITANT TO USE COMBINATION AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE MONTHS AND I MEAN IF WE CAN WORK IT OUT, GREAT.
I THINK THAT'S PREFERRED BY EVERYBODY.
SO IT DOESN'T, THAT'S DEFINITELY THE MORE EXPEDIENT ROUTE.
SO NOW WE'RE TALKING EVEN FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD IF IT HAS TO GO TO THE COURT, COURT SYSTEM.
YOU JUST SAID THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ESTIMATED BETWEEN FIVE TO 15,000.
EVEN IF WE'RE TALKING IT'S AN EXTRA 10 OR 15,000 MORE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A A HUGE PROJECT BEING HELD UP FOR A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE HAD.
UM, BUT I DO STILL THINK WE NEED TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND NOT DELAY THIS PROJECT ANY LONGER.
WE'RE GOING ON YEAR NINE OF THIS SALES TAX.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? ALRIGHT, I THINK WE HAVE OUR ORDERS ON THAT ONE.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONDEMNATION ON THAT PROPERTY.
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FAVOR OR OPPOSED? I'M IN FAVOR.I SAID I, I SAID I WOULD SUPPORT IT.
SO ONE OPPOSED DISCUSSION FOR THE RECORD, THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD FOR MORE DISCUSSION.
MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE MORE UPDATE.
ME SUPPORTING OR OPPOSING SUPPORTING.
UM, WITH THAT SAID THOUGH, IF HE IS IN THE AUDIENCE, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME, UH, INFORMATION BEFORE THE END OF THE NIGHT.
UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET HIM SPEAK, SHIFT AROUND ASK, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
NO, I THINK THAT'LL BE BETWEEN YOU GUYS AND STAFF THINGS.
UM, AND WE, THIS MEETING WILL BE ADJOURNED.