* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] OKAY, I'D LIKE TO CALL [1. CALL TO ORDER] TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, AND THIS IS OCTOBER THE 12TH, 4:00 PM IF EVERYONE PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, RUTHIE, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU EVERYONE. MRS. BROCK, ARE WE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FOIA? YES MA'AM, WE ARE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WE DO HAVE THE FULL COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF MYSELF AS CHAIR. MR. BAROLO. YOU, I THOUGHT I SAW HIM. HE'S COMING RIGHT BACK. OKAY. MR. CUNNINGHAM? MR. GLOVER, MR. LAWSON AND FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO KNOW WHO'S ON THIS COMMITTEE. THESE ARE THE CHAIRS OF OUR REGULAR COMMITTEES. OKAY. AND MS. HOWARD'S EX-OFFICIAL. OKAY. APPROVAL OF AGENDA. CAN [4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ] I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. THANK YOU MR. CUNNINGHAM. AND MR. LAWSON. AND ALL MEMBERS IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. APPROVE THE AGENDA. OH, SORRY. THANK YOU. I MOVED IT. ALL RIGHT. AGENDA'S APPROVED. AND WE DO HAVE MINUTES FROM [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ] JULY 13TH. IT SEEMS LIKE FOREVER AGO. SO MOVED. THANK YOU MR. CUNNINGHAM. SECOND. I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU MR. GLOVER. AND ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THANK YOU. IT'S APPROVED. UM, PUBLIC COMMENT. 15 MINUTES. DO I HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT, PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS. [7. PRESENTATIONS AND DISCUSSION ITEMS ] SO THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING COMMITTEE STRUCTURE UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC HEARING POLICY AND NEXT YEAR'S COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULE. AND JUST TO REMIND ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE MEETING SCHEDULE BECAUSE IT GOES TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, MR. LAWSON IN NOVEMBER, AND THEN IT COMES TO COUNTY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER AND HAS TO BE APPROVED. SO LET'S START WITH THE MEETING SCHEDULE YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. TWO OPTIONS. OPTION ONE. THE SECOND MEETING EVERY MONTH ROTATES BETWEEN THE LIBRARY SOUTH OF THE BROAD. AND OPTION TWO, THE QUARTERLY LIBRARY GOES SOUTH OF THE BOARD. BROAD. SO WE CURRENTLY ARE OPERATING UNDER OPTION TWO. LAST YEAR WE OPERATED UNDER OPTION ONE. SO LET'S HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT AND SEE WHAT EVERYBODY'S PREFERENCE. ANYBODY CARE TO COMMENT? I MEAN, THE BASIC QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT EVERY OTHER MEETING SOUTH OF THE BROAD OR DO YOU WANT ONCE A MONTH? SOUTH OF THE BROAD. OKAY. AND THEN I'LL LEAD UP DISCUSSION. UM, I PREFER IF WE HAVE, UH, IF I HAD A CHOICE TO HAVE EVERY, UH, ONCE A MONTH SOUTH OF THE, I MEAN ONCE A QUARTER SOUTH OF THE BROAD. OKAY. THAT'S OPTION TWO. OKAY. THAT'S OPTION TWO. YES. YEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. LAWSON, WHAT TO YOU? UH, I'M OBVIOUSLY FOR OPTION ONE, MAKING THAT, UH, 45 MINUTE DRIVE, UH, EVERY WEEK. AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO MARCUS THAT WAY. THEY'VE DONE IT FAIRLY WELL. BUT AGAIN, I'M, I'M FOR THE OPTION, OPTION ONE AND, AND, UH, TO GIVE BOTH SIDES OF THE FAIR TREATMENT. ALL RIGHT, MR. CUNNINGHAM? YEAH, I MEAN THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SIDES OF IT. ONE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE REPRESENT, MOVING IN ACROSS THE COUNTY IS OBVIOUSLY MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO IT, BUT LOGISTICS, STAFFING WISE IS ALSO SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE PLANNING THIS OUT. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE MEETINGS OVER IN BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS ALSO GOOD WITH. 'CAUSE IT'S ALWAYS NOT EASY SETTING THAT UP AND GETTING THAT LOGISTIC WISE. UM, WOULD THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE HAVE MAJOR ISSUES TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT IT BEING DONE SOMEWHERE? FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING FOR THE HILTON HEAD BRIDGE AND IT'S ON OUR AGENDA. EITHER MAKE SURE IT'S LINED UP THERE OR HOLD A SEPARATE MEETING OR WHAT ABOUT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT? SO THE, THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD, AND I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND MR. CUNNINGHAM SAYING IT TAKES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT FOR BCTV TO GO DOWN THERE AND ALL EVERYBODY ELSE. I GET IT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. LAWSON'S SAYING BECAUSE I AM SOUTH OF, BROUGHT IN OUR CONSTITUENTS. UM, THIS IS A LONG RIDE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE ON HILTON HEAD, MR. MCALLEN, MR. REEDS FROM HILTON HEAD. AND I THINK WE SHUT SOME OF OUR CONSTITUENTS OUT. BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE TO THE ADMINISTRATOR, CAN WE DO MORE OF WHAT WE DID WITH PALMETTO BLUFF WHERE WE, WE HAD BCTV SET UP THERE WHERE THEY COULD INTERACT WITH US OR THEY COULD WATCH US. THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT. AND ARE YOU, UM, THINKING LIKE WE'D HAVE A REMOTE SITE FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND WATCH THE MEETING AND THEN BROADCAST OR THEN BE ABLE TO COMMENT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT? IS THAT THAT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID FOR THAT PARTICULAR [00:05:01] MEETING WE DID. AND MAYBE AT ONE SITE OR TWO. 'CAUSE YOU GOT BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD, WHICH ARE POPULAR. SO WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT FOR, UM, ISSUES THAT INVOLVE CONSTITUENTS IN THOSE AREAS. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE. UH, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR DRIVE. WE SIGNED UP FOR THIS JOB. WE RAN FOR IT. SO HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES US, THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. UM, WHETHER IT'S AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS WHEREVER WE HAVE TO GO. BUT THERE ARE MAJOR ISSUES THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO US WHEN WE HAVE A MEETING AT FIVE OR SIX WHEN WE START. 'CAUSE THEY DON'T GET OFF WORK TILL FIVE OR SIX. BUT IF THEY CAN GO TO A LOCATION THAT'S CLOSER TO THEM TO REMOTE IN, I THINK THAT'S BENEFICIALLY. OR MAYBE IT IS THE ZOOM ASPECT AND WE FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON OPENING THE ZOOM UP TO THE PUBLIC AND GETTING THAT OUT THERE. I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE BEST WAY IS. I KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN THAT ON AND OFF THOUGH. CORRECT. FROM PEOPLE SPEAK AND DON'T SPEAK WOULD BE THE ONLY THING WITH ZOOM. ANYBODY CAN UNMUTE THEMSELF AND START SPEAKING WHENEVER THEY WANT ON ZOOM. SO WE KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE. UM, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS TO AT LEAST FIGURE THAT OUT. BECAUSE SOMEBODY GETS OFF WORK AT FIVE O'CLOCK, THEY'RE NOT MAKING THIS MEETING. YOU CAN'T COME HERE. THEY'RE NOT, THEY, THEY, I MEAN, HECK, IT'S FOUR NOW. AND GO AHEAD. UH, MADAM VICE HERE. AND IN THAT DISCUSSION, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE VIA ZOOM WOULD BE PREFERABLE. 'CAUSE THEN THEY COULD JUST ZOOM IN AND I THINK WE COULD LOOK AT A WAY TO CONTROL MUTING AND UNMUTING, UH, INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK. BUT YOU'D STILL HAVE THE 30 MINUTE LIMIT FOR COMMENT OR FOR PUBLIC HEARING. I PRESUME YOU'D YOU'D WANNA ALLOW IT FOR YEAH. FOR PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. ALRIGHT, MR. BETHAL, WE WERE ON OPTION ONE OR OPTION TWO FOR THE MEETING SCHEDULE. DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? UH, OPTION ONE, WE ROTATE. EVERY OTHER ONE IS SOUTH OF THE BROAD. OPTION TWO IS WHAT WE DO THIS YEAR. ONCE A QUARTER SOUTH OF THE BROAD. UH, JUST GIVE YOU A MINUTE. OKAY. AND I'LL GET BACK TO ME. BACK TO YOU, MS. HOWARD. WELL, YOU'RE EX OFFICIO, BUT YOU CAN WEIGH IN. I LIKE, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS LAST YEAR, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A BURDEN ON THE STAFF TO MOVE. UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THE ABILITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT VIA ZOOM IS ANOTHER OPTION. I KNOW SOME OTHERS DO THAT OTHER, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. BUT, UM, IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED TOTAL WHEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT AT ANOTHER LOCATION. DO YOU KNOW MR. MOORE? HOW ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE? OH, EVERYBODY HERE. I MEAN, IT'S ALL THE TV. YEAH. YOU CAN SEE WHO'S HERE. WE DID THIS. I THINK WE DID THIS LAST YEAR. WE DID SOME DATA. WE PULLED SOME DATA FOR YOU ALL. YEAH. BUT, UM, I'LL DEFER TO, I DON'T THINK OUR BROADCASTING MS UH, NICHOLS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ON ON HOW MANY STAFF YOU NEED? FIVE. FIVE PER BROADCAST. FROM BROADCASTING STAFF AND AUTHORITY. FROM COUNTY CLERK AND THEN EVERYONE. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT. SO WHEN WE DID THE REMOTE AT PALMETTO BLUFF, WE HAD ONE BROADCAST GO DOWN THERE. RIGHT? YOU HAD THREE SET UP AND YOU HAD TWO STAFF. OKAY. SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE PLAUSIBLE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN, SET IT UP, AND THEN TAKE IT DOWN ONCE THE MEETING'S COMPLETE. WHAT ABOUT THE OPTION OF, WE HAVE ONE THAT'S SET UP AT ALL TIMES THAT ONE PERSON COULD GO IN AND JUST HOOK UP FOR THE DAY? YEAH. IF WE WANTED TO INVEST IN, UM, EACH SITE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT DATA IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. NO. AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE PERMANENT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE ROOMS THAT YOU GUYS TRAVEL TO. SO IT'S A FULL LOAD IN AND LOAD OUT. THIS IS AN APPROXIMATELY $600,000. HOW MUCH? MAYBE 600 K. HUH? OKAY. THAT'S ZOOM. SOUNDS PRETTY NICE. THAT SOUND UNDER THE MAY RIVER? YEAH. . OKAY. YOURSELF? THE LINER. I I WOULD SUGGEST WE JUST DO ONE. YEAH, WE DON'T NEED TO BOTH. I FOCUS MORE ON JUST ONE TO SEE IF IT WORKS BEFORE, IN THE, BEFORE WE INVEST 2 MILLION INTO IT. OKAY. MR. AL, YOU WE'RE BACK TO YOU. YEAH, I, I'D SAY THE QUARTERLY ROTATION, THE OPTION TWO. AND I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S MORE FEASIBLE TO GET ZOOM FIGURED OUT. I MEAN, CITY OF BEAUFORT AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO IT. I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT MAYBE UPGRADE OUR SOFTWARE OR YEAH, I, I THINK, OH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY OUR OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ZOOM AND MANAGING THE BREAKOUT ROOMS AND, AND THAT OF THAT NATURE. UM, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A GOVERNMENT ACCOUNT, WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO MUTE PEOPLE, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE ZOOM FOR GOVERNMENT, IT LIMITS THAT ON OUR END. WE HAVE A CONTACT AT ZOOM THAT I CAN EMAIL NOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING Y'ALL ARE CONSIDERING AND ASK FOR OPTIONS. THAT, THAT TO ME SEEMS THE MOST FEASIBLE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. OKAY. MR. PASSMAN, GO AHEAD AND WEIGH IN. YOU'RE HERE. UM, WHILE I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE, OPTION TWO SEEMS TO BE MORE, UM, [00:10:03] FEASIBLE. THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS. THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETINGS IS WHERE WE INTERVIEW PEOPLE FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. BECAUSE YOU ONLY MEET QUARTERLY, THAT BECOMES VERY PROBLEMATIC. I WILL TELL YOU THE KEEP BUFORD COUNTY BOARD HAD THREE PEOPLE WHO APPLIED, BUT BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF TIME BETWEEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE INTERVIEW PROCESS, TWO OF THEM MOVED ON. SO I THINK I WOULD PREFER THAT YOU HAVE MORE THAN QUARTERLY, MAYBE EVERY TWO MONTHS. OKAY. UM, MR. MCKELLAN? YEAH, I MIGHT RELUCTANT TO, UH, TAKE A POSITION SINCE I WON'T BE HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO, UH, BIND OTHER PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION. BUT I SUPPOSE WHEN THEY ALL ARE, UH, COMING IN IN JANUARY, THEY CAN CHANGE THIS AND DO ANYTHING THEY WANT. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT BOUND BY ANY OF THESE THINGS. WELL, WE'RE GONNA ADOPT A CALENDAR AND IT'S LIKE PROBLEMATIC TO CHANGE IT. SO WE'RE JUST ALL LAYING IN HERE. OKAY. I LIKE THE WAY IT'S OPERATING NOW. OKAY. WHATEVER SYSTEM THAT IS, UH, WITH THE ROTATIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE, IT SEEMS TO BE, UH, EFFECTIVE REGARD TO THE START TIME. I WAS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF FIVE O'CLOCK, BUT I REALIZED THERE PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE ATTENDING. BUT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A ZOOM APPARATUS MADE AVAILABLE, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT TO START THE MEETINGS AT FIVE O'CLOCK, BECAUSE THEN YOU MIGHT GET OUT OF HERE IF YOU HAVE LENGTHY MEETINGS AT A, UH, REASONABLE HOUR, YOU KNOW? OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. WE WILL TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. IF YOU WOULD LOOK AT CHAT WITH COUNSEL'S SCHEDULE. SO I, THERE WAS A CHANGE MADE REQUEST OF MR. DAWSON, AND THAT WAS TO INCLUDE BURTON WELLS. HOWEVER, I NOTICED THERE'S NINE SOUTH OF THE BROAD, 11 NORTH OF THE BROAD. IT SHOULD BE EVEN UP. WHY DID WE DO THAT? WE, WE DON'T HAVE CHAT WITH COUNSEL A OH, I SEE WHAT YOU, OH, OKAY. YEAH. SCHEDULE B YOU, IT IS COMPLETELY EVEN BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT NORTH AND BROADEST. SO IT'S OPTION EIGHT, OPTION ONE. AND THAT INCLUDES BURTON WELLS AND BEAUFORT LIBRARY AND BEAUFORT LIBRARY, WHICH WE GET, COULD TURN OUT THERE ACTUALLY. OR OPTION TWO. PREFERENCE. ANYBODY CARE TO SPEAK ON THAT? I MEAN, HONESTLY, CHAT WITH COUNSEL'S MORE OF, NOT EVERYBODY GOES TO OR USUALLY GO TO THE ONE THAT'S IN YOUR AREA TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU REPRESENT, OR IF THERE'S A TOPIC MM-HMM . A SPECIFIC TOPIC THAT'S IMPORTANT IN THAT AREA AT THAT TIME. SO I'M NOT REALLY TOO HUNG UP ON IT EITHER WAY. I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS SCHEDULE MORE IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GO ON, ANY OF US CAN CALL A MEETING. SO I WOULDN'T OVERTHINK IT. UM, I THINK WE JUST HAVE OUR STATIONARY ONES MAKE IT EVEN, WHICH LOOKS LIKE OPTION TWO. AND THEN IF ONE OF US WANTS TO ADD A MEETING FOR A TOWN HALL OR SOMETHING, WE CAN ALWAYS DO THAT. THAT SEEMS LIKE IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO ME. OKAY. UM, MR. LAWSON, HOW ABOUT YOU? UH, I AM GOOD WITH EITHER OPTION. UM, SO OBVIOUSLY IF, UH, LOGAN IS, UH, LEANING TOWARDS OPTION TWO, I'M FINE WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. MR. BRETT TELL I'M YOU. YEAH, I'M LEANING TOWARDS OPTION TWO AS WELL. THANK YOU. UH, WELL, MR. GLOVER, UM, I DON'T LIKE OPTION TWO BECAUSE YOU GOT ME THERE THREE TIMES. I DON'T WANNA BE THERE THREE TIMES IN THE CHAT. SO YOU DON'T WANNA BE WHERE? AT A, AT, UH, IN MY, IN MY DISTRICT FOR THE CHAT. YOU GOT ME THREE TIMES IN THE CHAT FOR OPTION TWO. WE HAVE THAT NOW. HUH? WE DO THAT NOW? YES, SIR. OH, YOU DON'T WANT THREE OF OPTION TWO AT ST. HELENA? WHAT I JUST SAID. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES, MA'AM. SO YOU'D RATHER PUT ONE OF THOSE MAYBE AT BEAUFORT LIBRARY? THAT'D BE FINE WITH ME. ANYWHERE ELSE? UH, I JUST WANNA SAY, I, I DO TRAVEL FOR THESE. I, I THINK THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT AND I TRAVEL DOWN TO HILTON HEAD BL. YEAH, YOU DO. AND I TRAVEL UP. YEAH. I THINK I'VE MISSED A HANDFUL FOR OTHER OBLIGATIONS THAT I HAVE, BUT I, I TRY TO, SO I REALLY DON'T CARE WHERE THEY ARE. SHOW UP. I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT. I THINK THE, THE LEAST ATTENDED ONES THAT I'VE BEEN TO HAVE BEEN BEAUFORT LIBRARY. YEAH. AND NUMBER WISE, THAT'S DIFFICULT TO PARK. YEAH. WE'VE HAD BETTER ATTENDANCE THAN ALL THE OTHERS. SO, SO IF WE LOOK AT OPTION TWO, WE CAN TAKE THE JUNE ST. HELENA MAKE IT BEAUFORD LIBRARY. HOW'S THAT TO ACCOMMODATE MR. GLOVER? ANYBODY ELSE NEED TO WEIGH IN? SO WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT OPTION TWO. THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST GLAD WE'RE DOING THEM. I THINK THE PUBLIC APPRECIATES WHEN WE SHOW UP AND AS UH, OTHERS HAVE SAID, ALL COUNCIL [00:15:01] MEMBERS GENERALLY DON'T SHOW UP, BUT ANYBODY CAN GO TO ALL OF THESE, SO, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ON THAT ONE. OKAY, THE NEXT THING IS, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THIS PAGE, COUNCIL MEETING AND COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. SO DO WE DECIDE WE WANNA STAY WITH 6:00 PM COUNCIL MEETING? I THINK LIKE MR. MCKELLEN SAID, IT COMES DOWN. IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT, ZOOM US. GETTING OUTTA HERE AT NINE AND 10 O'CLOCK IS RIDICULOUS. AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, I WORK NIGHTS, I DON'T CARE. I'LL STAY HERE UNTIL 2:00 AM , THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. BUT WHEN THE PUBLIC, THAT'S LITERALLY LEAVING WORK COMING HERE, AND THEN THEY'RE HERE TILL NINE OR 10 O'CLOCK WAITING FOR ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS AS THE VERY END. I MEAN, HECK, LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE DIDN'T EVEN START WITH OUR AGENDA ITEMS TILL AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES INTO THE AGENDA. YEAH, AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES RIGHT BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED GETTING TO ANY ACTION ITEMS. SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE FIVE O'CLOCK IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE ZOOM AND THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC. IF NOT, THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET TO THE MEETINGS. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT MR. LAWSON? UM, YOU KNOW, I I ALWAYS LIKED THE FIVE O'CLOCK MEETINGS AND THEN PEOPLE CAME. BUT AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE SIX O'CLOCK, BUT I WAS, I WAS SHOCKED. I WASN'T SHOCKED WHENEVER I SAW THAT. UM, THE CITY OF SAVANNAH, THEY HOLD THEIR MEETINGS AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON. OH, SO DOES HILTON HAVE BLUFF IN? YEAH. I MEAN, SO WE ACT LIKE IT'S, IT'S UNCOMMON OR WE SHOULD HAVE OUR MEETINGS AT SIX AND HERE EVERYBODY ELSE IS, IS HOLDING THEIR MEETINGS EARLIER. AND A LOT OF 'EM EVEN HAVE NOW WHERE YOU CAN DO YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT ONLINE AND THEN IT'S POSTED. SO YOU CAN GO BACK AND GO THROUGH NOT ONLY 15 MINUTES OF COMMENT OF, OF, OF, OF, UM, COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT WHOEVER ELSE WANTS TO BE THERE, THEY POST IT AND IT'S EDITED, NOT EDIT. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REVIEWED BEFORE IT'S THEN POSTED ONLINE. SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS USING TO, TO BE SUCCESSFUL. FAIR POINT, MR. EARTH ON YOU? I, I'D KEEP IT AT SIX. UM, AND I THINK WE STILL NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE ZOOM, BUT I'D KEEP IT AT SIX TO ALLOW PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET HERE. BUT I, I WOULD A SIMPLE CHANGE TO GET OUTTA HERE INSTEAD OF AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, JUST DO AN OLD AND NEW BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA. BE ABLE TO ADJOURN AT A DECENT TIME AND THEN ANYTHING REMAINING CAN BE PICKED UP AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND THEN EVEN SHIFT IT TO WHERE THE ACTUAL ORDINANCES IN BUSINESS IS FIRST. AND THEN ANY PRESENTATION CAN BE AFTERWARDS TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT MEETING IF WE CAN'T GET TO IT. UM, BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T IN OUR DISCUSSION. EXPLAIN OLD BUSINESS, NEW BUSINESS AND HOW IT'S OKAY IF IT SHIFTS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST ESSENTIALLY YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. IF THERE'S A CUTOFF THERE, THEN YOU JUST PICK UP, UM, THE OLD BUSINESS AT THE, AT THE NEXT AGENDA. IT JUST GETS CARRIED OVER. IT GETS PUT TO THE TOP, TOP OF THE AGENDA. YEAH. IT GETS PUT AT THE TOP, THE TOP OF BUSINESS. TOP OF THE AGENDA. MM-HMM . BEFORE YOU GET INTO THE NEW BUSINESS. AND IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT, YOU SAID PRESENTATIONS GO TO THE END OF THE AGENDA. YEAH, I MEAN, IF, IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET OUTTA HERE, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN ACCOMMODATE, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE YOU SAID THE OTHER DAY WAS AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES BEFORE WE ACTUALLY 15 GOT INTO THE, THE BUSINESS, WHICH IS GREAT. BUT YOU KNOW, FOR FOLKS THAT NEED TO GET OUTTA HERE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE PUBLIC, IF THEY HAVE A COMMENT ON AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE, I, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH FIRST. YEP. UM, MR. GLOVER? UH, YES MA'AM. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO GO BACK TO THE FIVE O'CLOCK MEETINGS. UM, THE QUESTION BECOMES WOULD THAT MOVE THE CAUCUS TO FOUR O'CLOCK? YES. OKAY. YEAH, YOU DON'T WANT IT AT THE END, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. I THINK THE, UM, FIVE O'CLOCK IS, IS FINE. I THINK WITH, WITH THE ZOOMING AND TECHNOLOGY, I THINK WE CAN DO OUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE IF WE ARE SERIOUSLY ABOUT HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC. UM, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC WITH A PRESENTATION HERE, UM, WAITING UNTIL WE FINISH BUSINESS. I WANT THEM TO BE UPFRONT FIRST AND THEN, UM, WE ARE SUBJECT TO STAYING HERE AS LONG AS WE HAVE TO TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF, UM, IF WE CAN'T, UM, WE CUT OFF AT A CERTAIN TIME. UM, THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. WE DO HAVE, UH, A MOTION, THE ABILITY TO PUT A MOTION TO EXTEND THE TIME. AND, UM, WE HAVE ALWAYS EXTENDED THE TIME, UM, NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. AND I'M LIKE, MR. CUNNINGHAM, STAY HERE AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO DO THIS. THAT I DO WILL CAUTION YOU THAT, UM, AFTER A CERTAIN HOUR OF THE NIGHT, MY BRAIN KIND OF JUST FREES. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU. I MAY YES. MR. OW. [00:20:01] LITTLE TO THAT. WHEN I, WHEN, WHEN I CAME ON ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO, IT WAS A HARD CUTOFF AT EIGHT AND YEAH. AND MS. GLOVER'S CORRECT. THERE WAS ALWAYS A MOTION TO EXTEND CORRECT. WAS PASSED AND YEAH. AND IT WAS ALWAYS PASSED JUST TO GET DONE WITH IT. BUT THEN AGAIN, WE WEREN'T DOING OLD AND NEW BUSINESS EITHER, SO IT WAS JUST GO AHEAD AND FINISH IT OUT. SO I, I JUST THINK THAT SHOULD BE AN OPTION IN THE BACKGROUND. SO, AND ONE THING I'M GONNA SAY IS WE SET A STRATEGIC PLAN AND WE HAVE OUR GOALS IN JANUARY AND WE NEED TO STICK TO THAT. AND RANDOM OTHER THINGS SHOULD NOT BE DETRACTING US OR ADMINISTRATION. UH, AND THAT'S HAPPENED TO US AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE TIMES THIS YEAR AND TAKEN AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME. AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT SOME OF THAT. BUT I DO HAVE MAYBE GO BACK TO A HARD CUTOFF AT EIGHT, SEVERAL MONTHS. START AT FIVE. I LIKE THE OLD BUSINESS, NEW BUSINESS. OKAY. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION NOW. WE GO TO ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT. COMMITTEE STRUCTURE RETAIN THE CURRENT FIVE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE, RETURN TO THREE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE. I THINK YOU MEAN RETAIN THE FOUR COMMITTEE EXECUTIVE. OH, YOU COUNT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AS ONE. OKAY. I DON'T COUNT THAT ONE, BUT, OKAY. SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT, LET ME LEAVE OUT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND JUST SAY, DO WE WANT THE FOUR COMMITTEES WE HAVE NOW COMMUNITY SERVICE, NATURAL RESOURCE, FINANCE AND PUBLIC FACILITIES, OR DO WE WANT TO COLLAPSE? UM, PUBLIC FACILITY SAFETY, COMMUNITY SERVICE AND LAND USE TOGETHER? LAND USE IS WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES. THAT'S THE QUESTION. AND THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE BEFORE A COUNCIL MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT ANY THOUGHTS, UH, AND PARTICULARLY THOSE RETURNING. I'M, I'M LOOKING AT YOU GUYS. SO LOGISTICS WISE THEN, ARE YOU SAYING TWO WOULD BE ONE DAY AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE FOUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING? SO WE'RE GOING FROM FOUR MONDAYS A MONTH TO THREE. YES. THERE'S BEEN A CONCERN EXPRESSED THAT WE'RE EVERY MONDAY IN THE MONTH, AND THAT WAS EXPRESSED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. SO WE'D GO FROM EVERY MONDAY TO THREE MONDAYS A MONTH. I MEAN, I THINK YOU COULD MAKE THAT CHANGE HAPPEN REGARDLESS IF WE CHANGE IT FROM FIVE COMMITTEES OR FOUR, HOWEVER YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT TO THREE. I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY CHANGES ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU COULD STILL PUT ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS ON THE OTHER DAY. SO WE COULD DO THREE COMMITTEES IN ONE DAY, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. MR. GLOVER WILL SAY HIS BRAIN WON'T LAST THAT LONG. IT'D BE SHORTER THAN CAU. I SAID NIGHT IN A COUNCIL MEETING, THE COMMITTEE MEETING STARTED AT TWO O'CLOCK, RIGHT? YEAH. SO YEAH. BUT, UH, EIGHT O'CLOCK, NINE O'CLOCK OF MY BRAIN IS YEAH. IS GOING TO SLEEP. BUT UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM JOINING COMMUNITY SERVICES WITH LAND USE? MAKING IT ONE COMMITTEE? NO. IT WAS THAT WAY BEFORE. THAT'S WHAT, YEAH. RIGHT. AND UM, MS. HOWARD, I, IF I REMEMBER THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SEPARATE THOSE MM-HMM . NOW. I MEAN, IT WAS THAT WAY BEFORE. YEAH. AND BEFORE THAT IT WAS THE OTHER WAY. . YEAH. SO, SO I GUESS THERE'S A CHOICE. UM, WHATEVER WORKS, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, THE LAND USE DOES HAVE A LOT OF, UM, ISSUES, ESPECIALLY WITH IF WE DEALING WITH, UM, UM, ZONING CHANGING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UM, SO I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ENOUGH PROBABLY GOING ON FOR THE LAND USE TO REMAIN AS IT IS. BUT IF YOU INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY, UM, SERVICE WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW DAVE, UM, IS THAT, I THINK BASED ON THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, IT'D BE FEASIBLE TO COMBINE YEAH. PUTTING THOSE TWO TOGETHER. YEAH. LIKE I SAID, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, IT'S BEEN SOMEWHAT UNDERUTILIZED, I BELIEVE. SO MAYBE CONSOLIDATING THOSE. MM-HMM . I WOULD NEVER PUT FACILITIES WITH FINANCE. YOU CAN'T PUT THOSE IN. NO. WE'D BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT. THE OTHER THING TOO, IF WE CHANGE THE SCHEDULE AROUND, REGARDLESS IF WE CONDENSE OR NOT, IT HELPS WITH THE AGENDA ISSUE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE THE AGENDA ISSUE WE'RE GONNA RUN INTO IS ANYTHING FROM FINANCE AND PUBLIC FACILITIES. WE'LL TAKE A MINIMUM OF THREE WEEKS TO GET TO COUNCIL. IT COULD TAKE UP TO FIVE DEPENDING ON HOW IT FALLS IN THE MONTH AS WELL. OR IF WE HAVE ONE MEETING THAT MONTH, IT COULD BE FIVE WEEKS BEFORE SOMETHING FROM FINANCE MAKES IT TO COUNTY COUNCIL. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S THE WEEK BEFORE. SO I'M HEARING THE CONSENSUS IS GO AHEAD AND COMBINE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND LAND USE. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? NATURAL RESOURCES. I MEAN, WE CAN PLAY WITH THE NAME LATER. THAT'S WHAT IT USED TO BE, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. NOW THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. AND, UH, MRS. BROCK HAS DONE TONS OF INFORMATION ON THIS. I WATCH HILTON HEAD BLUFF IN JASPER COUNTY. MS. HOWARD DOES BEAUFORT CITY AND PORT ROYAL. THE QUESTION IS, WHO VOTES AT COMMITTEE MEETINGS? DOES EVERYONE THAT SHOW UP GET TO VOTE OR ONLY MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE VOTE? IF YOU'RE ONLY GONNA ALLOW THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO VOTE, THEN IT MUST STILL GO [00:25:01] TO FULL COUNCIL. WHETHER IT GETS SUPPORTED OR NOT SUPPORTED, I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT. UM, I THINK THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE, BUT IF IT GETS TURNED DOWN, IT STILL HAS TO GO TO COUNCIL. 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T LET A COMMITTEE DICTATE WHAT COUNTY COUNCIL SEES. THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THING. NOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA LET EVERYBODY VOTE AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING, THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE DISCUSSION IS DOES A GO-TO COUNSELOR OR NOT? BUT I, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. AND THAT'S GONNA COME UP IN D IS ARE THE ADVISORY. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. MR. LAWSON, WHAT DO YOU THINK? UM, I REMEMBER WHENEVER WE ONLY LET COMMITTEE PEOPLE VOTE, WHICH MEANT THAT ONLY THE COMMITTEE PEOPLE SHOWED UP FOR THE COMMITTEES. THAT'S TRUE TOO. UM, AND THEN, SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION YOU HAVE IN THE COMMITTEE AND, AND REFINE THINGS DURING THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU HAD TO WAIT THEN FOR COUNTY COUNCIL AND THEN YOU HAD THOSE SAME DISCUSSIONS ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THOSE ORIGINAL COMMITTEE PEOPLE MM-HMM . WERE PART OF THE, OR THE ORIGINAL COUNCIL WERE PART OF THAT ORIGINAL COMMITTEE THING. SO I, I AM STILL FOR ALLOWING EVERYONE TO SHOW UP THAT WANTS TO SHOW UP FOR A COMMITTEE MEETING AND LETTING THEM VOTE AT THAT COMMITTEE MEETING. AND AGAIN, WHEN IT SHOWS UP, THEN AT COUNCIL, A LOT OF THE THINGS HAVE BEEN VETTED ALREADY. AND WE'RE NOT HERE TILL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. FAIR. MR. MARTH, YOU, UH, I'M ACTUALLY TORN ON THIS ONE, BUT MM-HMM . I, I SEEM TO LEAN TOWARDS WHAT LOGAN WAS SAYING, THAT, UM, IF, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ONLY HAVE THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS VOTING, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE ADVISORY RATHER THAN AUTHORITATIVE. MM-HMM . UM, I, I FEEL LIKE THERE WOULD BE SOME PROCEDURAL ISSUES, UM, TRYING TO BRING A, SOMETHING THAT WAS KILLED IN COMMITTEE FORWARD. THE COUNCIL, THERE'S MECHANISMS IN PLACE, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'D BE, UH, MORE DIFFICULT UP HERE TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE. THAT'S THE CATCH RIGHT THERE. YEAH. 'CAUSE THAT'S HAPPENED. UH, MR. GLOVER, I'M WITH THE, THE, I PREFER THE SRU THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR ANYBODY AT THE COMMITTEE WHO SHOWS UP, UM, TO PARTICIPATE IN IT. UM, WHETHER IT'S VOTED UP OR DOWN, IT COMES TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION. UM, UM, I WOULD HATE FOR SOMETHING TO DIE IN COMMITTEE AND STAY THERE FOR LIFE. UM, SO I'M, I'M FOR THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, UM, YEAH, I, I WANNA GO BACK TO THE, UM, THE, THE DATES OF THE MEETINGS. I, I LIKE DEDICATING ALL MONDAYS TO COUNCIL MEETINGS. SO WHETHER YOU HAVE A COMMITTEE OR WHETHER YOU HAVE A REGULAR MEETING, I LIKE DEDICATING ALL COUNCIL MEETINGS ON MONDAY. AND WHEN I GOT ON BOARD HERE, UH, THAT'S, HE WOULD EXPLAIN TO ME THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING AND PLANNING AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THEY KNOW THAT MONDAY IS FOR COUNCIL. AND I LIKE THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. HOW ABOUT, UM, MR. PASSMAN? MR. MCCALL? MS. HOWARD, DO YOU WANNA WEIGH IN? I KNOW YOU WON'T BE HERE, BUT YOU CAN WEIGH IN, UM, ON PEOPLE VOTING. YEAH, I, I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST CAME ON COUNTY COUNCIL, WE DID HAVE IT THAT ONLY COMMITTEE MEMBERS VOTED AND THEREFORE PEOPLE DIDN'T COME TO THE COMMITTEE. MEMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE. AND THEN YOU DID EVERYTHING THAT YOU COMMITTEE AT COUNCIL. AND THAT JUST SEEMED TO BE TERRIBLE TO DO IT THAT WAY. SO I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, WE INVITE ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE SYSTEM IS WHERE THE ACTION REALLY TAKES PLACE. THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THE EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS. THAT'S WHERE THE PUBLIC SEES THE WORK DONE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING IS JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE DID IN THE COMMITTEE. SO I WOULD PREFER THAT I WOULD MAKE IT AUTHORITATIVE WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS. THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD SAY, NO, BUT IT STILL HAS TO GO TO FULL COUNSEL. ANYWAY. MR. MCKELLAN, I THINK MR. BASSMANS SUMMED IT UP PERFECTLY. I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT. ALRIGHT, MS. HOWARD? UM, I AGREE. I REMEMBER GOING TO, UH, WHEN I WAS FIRST ON COUNCIL GOING TO, UM, THE COMMUNITY SERVICE MEETING, OF COURSE I COULDN'T VOTE. I WASN'T ON THE COMMITTEE. UM, I WASN'T ALLOWED TO SPEAK UNTIL EVERYONE ELSE ON THE COMMITTEE SPOKE. UM, AND, BUT I WENT 'CAUSE I WAS INTERESTED IN IT. UM, I, AND I WAS RETIRED AND I COULD DO THAT. BUT, UM, I LIKED THE IDEA OF LETTING EVERYBODY VOTE. AND AS LONG AS THIS COUNTY COUNCIL HAS 11 MEMBERS, THE COMMITTEES NEED TO BE WHERE ALL THE WORK'S DONE. UM, MUNICIPALITIES DON'T HAVE THE COMMITTEES. OTHER COUNTIES THAT HAVE SMALLER, UH, MEMBERSHIP, UH, THE COMMITTEES MAYBE DON'T SERVE THAT PURPOSE. BUT AS LONG AS WE HAVE 11 COUNTY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, I THINK WE NEED COMMITTEES TO DO THE HARD WORK. SO I'M TORN WITH THIS ONE. LIKE MR. BERTH, I, YOU, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, I'VE BEEN AT ALMOST EVERY COMMITTEE MEETING. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT IF YOU DON'T COME TO A COMMITTEE [00:30:01] MEETING, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO WATCH IT ON BCTV. SO NO ONE SHOULD SHOW UP AT A COUNCIL MEETING AND REITERATE EVERYTHING AGAIN BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WATCH IT OR THEY DIDN'T REVIEW THEIR PACKET. SOMETIMES WE COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SOMEBODY THAT WASN'T AT COMMITTEE MEETING THEN DRAGS IT OUT BECAUSE THEY AREN'T PREPARED. SO I'M TORN ON THAT SIDE. UM, I KNOW, I SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE DOES. IF THEY'RE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, THEY DON'T SIT ON THE DAIS. THEY SIT IN THE AUDIENCE AND THEY DON'T VOTE. THAT'S BLUFFTON. THAT'S HILTON HEAD. THAT'S JASPER. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THESE TWO HERE. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST WITH THIS ONE IS THIS WAITS UNTIL WHOEVER'S VOTED ON COUNCIL COMES ON IN DECEMBER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA LIVE WITH THIS ONE. THE CALENDAR HAS TO GET DONE. BUT THIS COULD BE REVISED IN DECEMBER WITH WHOEVER WINS THEIR ELECTION. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? THINKING THAT, UH, NO ELECTED OFFICIAL CAN PARTAKE IN COUNCIL ACTION UNTIL THEY'VE BEEN SWORN IN AND THAT NO, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THEIR OPINION. THEY'RE GONNA BE SITTING UP HERE, WHOEVER THEY ARE, JUST SO THEY DON'T VOTE. NO, THEY KNOW THAT. YEAH. TILL THEY'RE SWORN IN. THEY'RE NOT A COUNCIL MEMBER. AND AUTHORITATIVE OR ADVISORY. I THINK I HEARD MOST OF YOU SAY AUTHORITATIVE. IS THAT CORRECT? DID I HEAR EVERYBODY RIGHT? IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE ROLE OF THE COUNCIL OR THE COMMITTEE. YEAH. I, I GO BACK TO WHAT THAT SAYING. I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING AUTHORITATIVE IN THIS SENSE THAT IF EVERYBODY GETS TO VOTE, BUT IF NOT EVERYBODY GETS TO VOTE, THEN IT SHOULD BE ADVISORY. UM, AND I STILL BELIEVE IT SHOULD GO TO FULL COUNSEL. UM, YEAH, GO AHEAD. I WAS OFF OF SOMETHING MR. UH, GLOVER SAID MADE A GOOD POINT. WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS CALENDAR, IF WE DO GO WITH THE CONDENSING OF DAYS, I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CALENDAR BEFORE WE PUT IT OUT AND REMOVE THE WEEKS THAT ARE HOLIDAYS THAT WE'RE MOVING MEETINGS TO TUESDAYS. YES. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE PUSHING 'EM TO TUESDAYS AND THROWING EVERYTHING OFF FOR THE PUBLIC US YOUR YOUR GUYS' JOBS IN THE BACK OFFICE. NOW YOUR DAY OFF IS NOT A DAY OFF BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY HAVING TO GET READY FOR YOUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING THE NEXT DAY. SO IF WE ARE GONNA GO TO THAT THREE MEETINGS A MONTH, I WOULD RECOMMEND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT WEEK OFF COMPLETELY. THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT MOVING A MEETING TO A TUESDAY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE WHEN THE OFFICES ARE CLOSED ON A MONDAY. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THOSE. YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE THREE THIS YEAR. ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT YOU CAN SET THE CALENDAR BASED UPON THE MONDAY HOLIDAYS. RIGHT? YOU COULD SCORE ONE POINT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. PROBABLY THE ONLY POINT I GET. IT'S FINE. OH, GO AHEAD. SORRY JUDGE. GO AHEAD. AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY NICE ABOUT HAVING THREE MEETINGS A MONTH, IF IN FACT THERE IS A TOPIC THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN EXTRA MEETING, YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY SURE. TO PUT THAT ON. ALL RIGHT, MR. ? YEAH, I, I WAS JUST GONNA FOLLOW UP WHAT YOU SAID. I I THINK IT'S GOOD TO DISCUSS IT NOW, BUT I THINK UNTIL AFTER JANUARY TO, TO REVISE THE RULES AND PROCEDURE ON THAT FRONT, I THINK WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST THING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND YOU'VE ALL LIVED THIS. SO PUBLIC HEARING GUIDELINES. UM, CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE A LIMIT. I, WHEN WE DO A PUBLIC HEARING, I LET, YEAH, I LET, UH, MR. CUNNINGHAM STAND HERE AND IF HE WANTS TO GO ON FOR AN HOUR, I ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. WE ALL REMEMBER BURTON WELLS. THAT'S WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO WE ARE PRESENTING TWO OPTIONS. OPTION ONE, AND AGAIN, MRS. BROCK, I'M GONNA COMMEND HER. SHE'S DONE ALL OF THIS RESEARCH WITH OTHER CLERKS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO THIS IS NOT COMING OUT OF THE AIR. 60 MINUTES TOTAL PER PUBLIC HEARING WITH 30 MINUTES FOR SPEAKERS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF THE OBJECT DISCUSSED AND 30 MINUTES FOR SPEAKERS OPPOSED, LIMITING EVERY SPEAKER TO FIVE MINUTES. THAT'S OPTION ONE. OPTION TWO 60 MINUTES FOR THE TOTAL PUBLIC HEARING WITH FIVE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, REGARDLESS OF PRO CON AND NO DIVISION OF WHO DOES WHAT. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA LIMIT PUBLIC HEARING 'CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO SIX HOURS AGAIN, SEVEN HOURS. ALRIGHT, SO LET'S START. ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE WEIGH IN? LET'S HAVE THAT OPTION ONE, OPTION TWO. I, I'LL START IT OFF. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, UH, OPTION ONE WOULD BE BETTER. UH, THAT WAY AT LEAST IT'S BALANCED ON BOTH SIDES. 'CAUSE I, I'VE SEEN IT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS WHERE FOLKS WILL RUSH IN, TRY TO GET THERE EARLY TO SIGN UP AND STACK THE LIST, UH, WHETHER FOUR, FOUR OR AGAINST, THEY'LL JUST TRY TO STACK THAT LIST. AND I THINK THE CHAIR BEING ABLE TO DIVIDE THAT OUT INTO EQUAL PRESENTATION IS GREAT. I WILL SAY THERE'S OTHER CONSIDERATIONS DOWN HERE IN THE NOTES. I, I WOULD SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D GIVE THE CHAIR THE DISCRETION TO EXTEND, BUT I, I THINK JUST KEEP IT BY MOTION TO EXTEND [00:35:01] AND EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND THE RULES. AND YOU CAN GAUGE THAT BY THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT ARE SIGNED UP. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, I MEAN, UH, I DO THINK THAT TWO THINGS. ONE, A PERSON SIGNING THEIR NAME SHOULD BE THE PERSON THAT IS THE ONE SPEAKING. SO WE'VE HAD THAT ISSUE BEFORE WHERE SOMEBODY WILL GO IN AND WRITE MULTIPLE NAMES DOWN THAT AREN'T HERE. I THINK LEY DOESN'T ALLOW THAT. WE GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF NOW. THAT'S WHAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR SOMEONE ELSE, FOR OTHER PEOPLE. OKAY, PERFECT. WELL THAT ONE'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. SO YEAH, THE OTHER THING WOULD BE EXACTLY LIKE YOU SAID, IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE FOR OR AGAINST SOMETHING, WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW IT TO BE STACKED UP JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN GET HERE EARLIER THAN SOMEBODY ELSE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHOEVER THE CHAIR IS AT THAT TIME TO BE ABLE TO EVENLY DISTRIBUTE THAT AND THEN GO FROM THERE. SO YOU'RE OPTION ONE, I'M FINE WITH ONE OR I MEAN BOTH OF THOSE. OH YES. I GUESS TECHNICALLY, YEAH. 'CAUSE THE BOTTOM PART. YES. SO WHEN THEY SIGN IN WITH A C, THEY WILL SAY THEIR NAME, THE WHAT THEY'RE COMING TO TALK ABOUT IN PRO OR OR CON. OKAY. MR. LAWSON. UM, IF WE'RE GONNA EXTEND THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING TO 60 MINUTES, THERE IS, THEN I ALMOST NEED THAT. WE NEED TO THEN GO BACK TO THE FIVE O'CLOCK OR FIVE 30 TIMEFRAME FOR NO, THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING, NOT PUBLIC COMMENT. I, OH, PUBLIC HEARING. I'M SORRY. I DID READ THAT WRONG. THINK BURTON WELLS. UM, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAN, UM, I WOULD RATHER SEE US DO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED. UH, WE STILL CAN LIMIT IT TO THE 60 MINUTES. BUT AGAIN, THAT THEN GETS YOU 10 PEOPLE FROM EITHER SIDE AS OPPOSED TO SIX. BUT YOU WANT IT SPLIT PRO AND CON, UM, TO BALANCE IT OUT. MM-HMM . YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERABLE THAT ONCE ALL THE, THE, THE PROS AND CONS, WHOEVER GOES FIRST, IF THEY, WHOEVER HAS A FEW SPEAKERS, THEN WE CAN FILL THE REMAINING TIME WITH THE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE STILL WANTING TO SPEAK. I THINK IT WOULD BE THE CORRECT WAY TO DO IT IF THEY'RE THERE TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT, MR. GLOVER. ALRIGHT. I THINK I LIKE WHAT, UM, THAT'S THE LAWSON JUST SAID, UM, THE THREE MINUTES GIVING MORE PEOPLE MORE TIME. UM, THE, THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS ALSO A PART OF OUR AGENDA SETTING WHEN WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE AGENDA AS WELL. SO IF YOU GOT THREE OR FOUR ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THIS SCENE, YEAH. SO I'M GONNA GO OVER THE THREE MINUTES. YOU GOT THREE HOURS, FOUR HOURS. I HEAR YOU . YEAH, I WOULD, I WAS GONNA SAY MAYBE WE SHOULD JUMP THAT DOWN TO 30 MINUTES AND THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND, IF WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR ONE PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE CAN HAVE FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON ONE AGENDA ITEM, WE DO. SO, SO, AND THEN YOU CAN, IF WE PUT THE 15 AND 15 AT THREE MINUTES YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE STILL CAN GET MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN ON IT. AND IF WE WANT TO EXTEND THAT TIME BECAUSE DURING OUR AGENDA, BEFORE WE APPROVE OUR AGENDA, WE COULD DO IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE. THE CHAIR CAN SAY, HEY, I HAVE NOBODY SIGNED UP FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I HAVE 12 SIGNED UP FOR THIS ONE. DO WE WANNA EXTEND THE TIME FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING? WE COULD DO THAT RIGHT THERE ON THE AGENDA. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY, ANYTHING LONGER AT THAT POINT. I'M, I'M WITH, I'M WITH, I'M WITH, UH, MR. CUNNINGHAM. MR. DAWSON, SINCE YOU'RE, WOULD YOU WEIGH IN ON THAT? ON SETTING A LIMIT FOR PUBLIC HEARING? I WOULD GO WITH THE THREE MINUTES BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. LIKE IF YOU LOOK A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE HAD FIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. NOW NOBODY SPOKE, BUT THERE WAS A POTENTIAL TO DO IT. MM-HMM . OKAY. I THINK I GOT ALL RIGHT. JOE, LARRY, ALICE, ANYTHING ELSE? I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, 30 MINUTES PER PUBLIC HEARING. THREE MINUTES EACH WITH THE OPTION OF EXTENDING IT BASED UPON THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC IN A SPECIFIC TOPIC. ALRIGHT, MS. HOWARD? I, I DON'T HAVE ANY, ANYTHING TO ADD. OKAY. THANKS ADAM. CHAIR. YEAH, I'M SORRY. UH, DOES THAT THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT INCLUDE THE APPLICANT OR DEVELOPER WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT OR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT? SO THAT WOULD BE A SPECIAL CASE. THAT'S NOT A ROUTINE PUBLIC HEARING. WE'D HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THREE MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH FOR AN APPLICANT OR THEIR ATTORNEY. BUT IT CAN'T BE UNLIMITED IN MY OPINION. RIGHT. WELL, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO DISCUSS WHETHER WE MAKE IT LIKE 10 MINUTES, 15, 20 MINUTES. YEAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. SO IF IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, LET'S SAY YOU USUALLY HAVE THE DEVELOPER OR THE REPRESENTATIVE AND YOU HAVE A POSSIBLE ATTORNEY. SO WHAT ABOUT, LET'S WEIGH IN ON THAT ONE. WHY COULDN'T THAT JUST BE PART OF THE ITEM ITSELF AND THE, BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING, USUALLY WE HAVE THE ITEM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE ITEM, THEN WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN COUNSEL SPEAKS. SO WHAT WOULD THAT PRESENTATION BE FROM THE DEVELOPER AND FROM OUR STAFF? WELL, THE [00:40:01] QUESTION IS DO WE LIMIT THEM? BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE HAD 'EM WHERE THE DEVELOPER GOES ON FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF, THE ATTORNEY GOES ON FOR ANOTHER HOUR AND THE PUBLIC HAS TO SIT AND WAIT FOR 30 MINUTES. SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANNA LIMIT THE DEVELOPER AND HIS HER ATTORNEY TO 15 MINUTES EACH, 10 MINUTES EACH, WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO. I GET THE QUESTION, BUT I'M SAYING THAT'D BE NO DIFFERENT THAN US JUST SAYING WE'RE GONNA LIMIT STAFF IN A PRESENTATION. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. YEAH, BUT WE SHOULDN'T, WE NEED THE INFORMATION. WE NEED TO KNOW THE INFORMATION AND SO WE CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION. SO I I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, UH, WHEN WE HAVE AN ITEM, IT'S A THREE STEP PROCESS. THE PRESENTATION, THE PUBLIC HEARING, THEN COUNSEL FOR THAT, FOR ONE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, IT'S THREE STEPS. SO THE DEVELOPER OR LAWYER WOULDN'T BE SPEAKING DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. THEY'D BE SPEAKING DURING THE PRESENTATION PORTION. CORRECT. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. WELL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHOULD THE DEVELOPER AND THE ATTORNEY HAVE UNLIMITED TIME BEFORE THE ACTUAL PUBLIC SPEAKS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I MEAN, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD WANNA SEE THE PRESENTATION BEFORE THEY SPEAK. YES. BUT, AND THEY WOULD. SO IT IS, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU GIVE THEM? AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT BE, UH, UP TO 20 MINUTES, UP TO, I MEAN WE'VE HAD AN HOUR AND A HALF FOR ONE, THE THREE TOP COUNTIES THAT WE MIMICKED DO 10 MINUTES FOR PRESENTATIONS AND THEN YOU GET INTO YOUR 60 MINUTE PUBLIC HEARING TIMER. 30 MINUTES PUBLIC HEARING. HUH? I THOUGHT WE WERE SAYING 30 MINUTES. YEAH, WE ARE GONNA SAY 30 MINUTES. OH YEAH. OKAY. SHE SAID 60 . SO, AND SHE SAID 15. THAT WAS WHAT WE'RE MIMIC. NO, SHE SAID 10. 10. AND I SAID 2020. UH, I WOULD GO TO 15. ALRIGHT, MR. GLOVER, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS FOR THE, OH, I THINK, UM, THE, THE PRESENTATION BY, BY A, UM, STAFF MEMBER. I THINK WE WANNA GET THAT'S NOT THE STAFF MEMBER. IT'S THE APPLICANT. RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S PART OF THE PRESENTATION. THE PRESENTATION. BUT, BUT, BUT THE STAFF WILL ALSO BE A PART OF THE PRESENTATION, RIGHT? NOT NECESSARILY. NO. THEY'D BE PART OF OUR DISCUSSION. STAFF USUALLY GOES FIRST. YEAH. STAFF. ALL RIGHT. MR. LAWSON, WHAT'S, SAY YOU? UM, I THINK THAT, UH, WE LIMIT THE, UM, PRESENTATION TO 10 MINUTES. I THINK WE THEN GO TO HALF HOUR OF, UM, UH, THREE MINUTE, UM, UM, COMMENTS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE OPTION TO MAKE IT LONGER IF WE CHOOSE, DEPENDING ON WHO ALL SIGNED UP. AND THEN STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, OFFERING BOTH PROS AND CONS, UM, UM, DURING THAT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS. ALRIGHT, MR. BAR MUTE. I STILL, I HEAR EVERYBODY WITH THE 30 MINUTES AND, AND THE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF PUBLIC HEARINGS. BUT THE REALITY IS WE HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS TO OFTENTIMES AN EMPTY ROOM. CORRECT. SO IF PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP AND WANT TO TALK, I WOULD GO BACK TO THE FIVE MINUTES AND 60 MINUTES OUT THE GATE AND THEN WE CAN EXTEND BEYOND THAT. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY. I ACTUALLY WANNA HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHEN THEY, IF THEY'RE TAKING THE TIME TO SHOW UP. OKAY. BUT, BUT I HAVE THAT THIS IS THE DEVELOPER AND THE ATTORNEY. OH, THAT ONE. SORRY. UM, YEAH, I'D SAY UP TO 20 MINUTES, MINUTES SEPARATE, APART FROM THE ACTUAL 60 MINUTE OR 30 MINUTES, WHATEVER THE CONSENSUS IS. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. I GOT MR. BARMAN, MR. CUNNINGHAM, MR. PASSMAN, MR. LAWSON. MR. GLOVER, YOU WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE. I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN. UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 20 MINUTES. OKAY. UM, MS. HOWARD, WELL, SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF THE PUBLIC IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT. I HATE TO SEE HIM LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, BUT THERE'S NO, THIS IS THE DEVELOPER. THE ATTORNEY. OKAY. THE DEVELOPER HIMSELF. 10 MINUTES, I THINK. 10 MINUTES. MR. MCALLEN? I, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE 10 MINUTE, UH, LIMITATION WITH EXCEPTIONS AS NECESSARY BASED ON THE COMPLICATED NATURE OF THE, ALRIGHT, MR. DAWSON, I CONCUR. 10 MINUTES. 10 MINUTES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT. UM, WE DID THE CALENDAR. ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. UM, YEAH. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND MRS. BROCK. AND WE WILL GET THIS ALL TOGETHER. SO AT THIS POINT, LOOKING AT OUR AGENDA, UM, LET'S SEE. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT'S NOT RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AGENDA [8. AGENDA ITEMS ] EIGHT. A APPOINTMENT OF SAM AKER. SO THE LOW COUNTRY WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HIGHER EDUCATION SECTOR FOR A PARTIAL TERM APPOINTMENT WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE OF JUNE, 2029. OCTAVIA EVANS SE, SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE [00:45:01] SPECIALIST JUST THREW THAT IN THERE. CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? SO MOVE. THANK YOU MR. GLOVER. A SECOND. MR. JOHNSON? MM-HMM . AND ALL. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THIS IS A KENNEDY THAT'S BEING RECOMMENDED BY, UM, HANK, ISN'T IT? YES. OKAY. AND IT SAYS PARTIAL TERMS. I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE TAKING OVER SOME A TERM THAT SOMEBODY EXITED. HE HAS, YEAH. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENT? ALL IN FAVOR, MS. OCTAVIA JUST WALKED IN TO MAKE SURE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YOU, OCTAVIA. IT'S OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THANK YOU. THAT'S FINE. UM, [9. EXECUTIVE SESSION ] NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER SOUTH CAROLINA CODE SECTION 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A TWO AND 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A ONE TO RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE ON MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE, AND TO DISCUSS ISSUES RELATED TO THE EMPLOYMENT APPOINTMENT. THAT'S THE ONE. APPOINTMENT COMPENSATION, PROMOTION, DEMOTION, DISCIPLINE, OR RELEASE OF A PERSON REGULATED BY A PUBLIC BODY. AND TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, REAPPOINTMENT OR APPOINTMENTS OF MEMBERS TO A BOARD COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION. MOTION PLEASE. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT. THANK YOU. GERALD. ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? WE'RE GOING IN TO DO INTERVIEWS FOR AD HOC, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF GOING INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THERE MOST CERTAINLY WILL BE SOMETHING COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. THANK YOU EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE TO MAKE SOME MOTIONS. BUT FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR US RUNNING LATE. WE HAD SOME INTERVIEWS. WE HAD A BUNCH OF INTERVIEWS. OH, WE HAD A BUNCH OF INTERVIEWS. WE WANTED TO COMPLETE THEM TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO SEAT AND TIME'S RUNNING SHORT. [10. MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION ] SO WE HAVE SOME MOTIONS COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. LET'S START WITH MR. CUNNINGHAM. UH, THANK YOU. YES. UH, ONE FOR BOARD OF ASSESSMENT AND APPEALS. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO NOMINATE DANIEL CAFFERY TO REPRESENT DISTRICT SEVEN. I'LL SECOND DO IT. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL ALL IN FAVOR OF DANIEL CAFFREY. THANK YOU MR. CUNNINGHAM. MR. PASSMAN? YES. FOR THE KEEP BUFORD COUNTY BEAUTIFUL BOARD, I WOULD NOMINATE CHRISTINE GRAHAM, WHO WILL REPRESENT DISTRICT 10. I'LL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MR. BARTHOLOMEW. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU MUCH. MR. BARTHOLOMEW? YES. I'D MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE, UH, RUSTY HOLLINGSWORTH, UH, TO THE LADIES ISLAND ST. AND HELENA FIRE DISTRICT COMMISSION. THANK YOU MR. GLOVER. ANY QUESTION OR COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. WE'LL GET THAT LATER. OKAY. UM, MS. HOWARD'S NOT HERE YET. OKAY, LET'S GO TO MR. MCALLEN. I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO FILL THE ANIMAL SERVICES AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS. MARIA MILITELLO, MICHELLE DANIEL, MICHELLE KNAPP, AND DEBORAH SMITH. I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND ONE BY MR. MAT BAR. ANY QUESTION? COMMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, NOMINATE FEL LAMARCA INSTEAD OF MARIA ELLO. SO YOU WANNA AMEND HIS MOTION? YES, I WANNA AMEND HIS MOTION. ALRIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYONE WANNA SECOND THAT? ANYBODY WANTS TO SECOND IT? I'LL SECOND THAT. . I'M JUST SECONDING IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT, MR. REED. SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT PROPOSED. RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. SO I GUESS IT'S JUST THE TWO OF US. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION WITH THE READ THE NAMES. I HAVE 'EM AGAIN. DEBORAH SMITH, MARIA ELLO. MICHELLE DANIEL. MICHELLE KNAPP. ALL RIGHT. AND WE HAD A SECOND ALREADY. ANY COMMENT OR QUESTION ON THOSE FOUR? THIS IS FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. ALL ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT SLATE. RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND NOW MS. HOWARD, DO YOU HAVE THE LAST MOTION? YES. I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS. UM, FOR THE BUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL BOARD, UH, THAT BOARD WAS, UM, EXPANDED, UM, TO A TOTAL OF 11 MEMBERS, UM, IN SEPTEMBER BY THEIR BOARD. UH, ALL OF THESE THREE HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED AND VETTED BY BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS LAURA LEVINE. NEXT ONE IS STEVE MEYER. AND THE NEXT ONE IS PAUL TATE. PAUL WHO? TATE. TAIT. MM-HMM. AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY SERVING, AS YOU [00:50:01] KNOW, THEY'RE BUILDING A HOSPITAL IN BLUFFTON. UM, THEY WERE PART OF THAT BOARD. THAT BOARD HAS BEEN CONSOLIDATED WITH THE, UM, BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL BOARD. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL THREE OF THEM? MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A FIRST WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANYBODY QUESTION OR COMMENT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT SLATE. THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR MOTIONS. AND I'M GONNA END EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.