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[ 1. CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:02]

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

WELCOME TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026.

WE HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE.

JIM GORDON HERE.

VICE CHAIR HANDMAN.

HERE.

JIM D HE'S EXCUSED.

CLARENCE DANIEL HERE.

JOHN GLOVER.

HE'S EXCUSED.

JENNY AK.

HERE.

PAUL MANNING.

HERE.

TIMOTHY NEWMAN.

HERE.

HERE.

OKAY.

IT'S CUSTOMARY FOR INTRODUCTIONS TO GO AROUND THE ROOM.

CHRIS, GO AHEAD AND START IT OFF OVER HERE AND WE'LL GO FINISH OVER THIS END.

I'M CHRIS DELIO COOK.

I'M FROM THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

IF I APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTIONS, IF WE ALL PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC WI STANDS NATION, ONE NATION UNDER JUSTICE.

WE'LL HAVE OUR T-SHIRTS ON BEFORE WE START THE AGENDA.

SO WE ALL HAVE CHAIRMAN ALICE IS ASKED TO HAVE A LITTLE CONVERSATION.

ALICE, I FOUND OUT THIS IS GONNA BE YOUR LAST CHAIRING OF THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE YOU GO ON TO OTHER THINGS.

UM, AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY YEARS.

YOU STARTED THIS COM, YOU WERE ON THIS COMMITTEE WHEN I WAS A FRESHMAN ON COUNTY COUNCIL.

SO WE KIND OF GREW UP TOGETHER.

, I REMEMBER GOING TO COLUMBIA TO A COUPLE STATE MEETINGS AND YOU WERE VERY PATIENT WITH ME EXPLAINING ALL THE DOT ACRONYMS AND I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT ROADS.

I WAS THE LIAISON TO THIS GROUP.

UH, AND I, Y'ALL HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AS A COMMITTEE SOME REALLY INNOVATIVE AND GREAT THINGS OVER THE LAST 11 YEARS.

UH, STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA RECOGNIZES THIS.

CTC IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW OTHER CCTC SHOULD BE RUN.

AND Y'ALL HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB.

AND, UH, MY FRIEND JENNY'S ON THIS COMMITTEE AND I'M GLAD SHE'S ON IT.

AND, UM, SHE BRINGS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE TO IT TOO.

AND JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING CHAIRMAN ALL, ALL THESE MANY YEARS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

OKAY, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS PUBLIC COMMENT TO ANY AGENDA ITEMS WE HAVE.

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY.

MAY

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

I HAVE APPROVAL OF FOR THE MINUTES FOR JULY 15TH, 2026.

SO MOVED.

SECOND DISCUSSION.

HARRY? NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY MR. CHAIR.

YES MA'AM.

OUR VISITOR WASN'T SURE ABOUT IF SHE COULD SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS? YES.

OH, SO GO AHEAD.

I'LL BACK UP FOR YOU.

CHAIRMAN, I THINK YOURS THOUGH, YOU WANT TO DO, UM, THIS ONE'S FOR AGENDA.

YES.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR.

OKAY.

[5.A. SCDOT DISTRICT PROJECT UPDATE ]

TRACY, YOU'RE UP FIRST, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN.

AND TO THE COMMITTEE AFTERNOON.

YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A GOOD WEEK.

ALRIGHT, FIRST SLIDE PLEASE.

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NEXT SLIDE.

ALRIGHT, THIS IS, UH, CONTRACT 40 40 WITH, UH, APAC.

UH, THEY'VE ACTUALLY COMPLETED, UH, FISH HALL IN, UH, DUKE STREET.

UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING ON THERE FOR THEM TO SCHEDULE WILL BE THE THERMO.

UH, THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON SE ONE 70.

IF YOU'VE EVER GONE DOWN THAT WAY EARLY IN THE MORNING, YOU WOULD'VE SEEN THEM WORKING ON THE FULL DEAF PATCHING.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE A MILL AND FIELD JOB.

UH, THE FIRST TWO UP HERE, COBERT FARM ROAD, AND, UH, NORTH AGNES MAJOR CMRB 10 CMRB JOBS.

SO THEY PROBABLY WON'T START THAT UNTIL NEXT YEAR AS WE START GETTING CLOSER INTO THE, UH, COLD WEATHER SEASON.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THIS IS THE ROUTE I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.

THIS IS, UH, THE ROBERT SMALLS PARKWAY.

UH, THERE ARE LANE RESTRICTIONS.

SO, UH, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE DC TODAY ABOUT IT, SO I'LL BE SENDING OUT SOME DIRECTION TO, UH, APAC.

SOME THINGS HAVE CHANGED FROM THE ENGINEERING DIRECTOR THAT CAME OUT TWO YEARS AGO.

UH, IF YOU GO DOWN THERE, THERE'S A HIGH INCREASE IN TERMS OF THE VEHICLE COUNT, DAILY COUNT.

SO OUR MAIN INTEREST AND CONCERN IS GONNA BE TO, NOT JUST TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC, BUT FOR THE GUYS OUT THERE WORKING ON THE ROAD IN TERMS OF THEIR SAFETY.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS THE 96 20 CONTRACT.

THIS ONE ACTUALLY SPLIT UP BETWEEN BUFORT AND JASPER, SO I'M ONLY OUTLINING THE ACTUAL BUFORT UH, ROUTES.

THE OTHER PART OF JASPER IS ABOUT FIVE ROUTES.

UH, SO US 2 7 8 40 HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

UH, THE MILL AND FILL ON THAT.

AND, UH, BRIAN, I THINK I GOT WHAT KIMBERLY HORN AND IT SHOULD NOT IMPEDE THEM FROM COMING BACK DOING THEIR OBSERVATION FOR A DETECTION OF THE LOOP.

SO WE SHOULD BE OKAY YESTERDAY.

SO YES, YOU'RE WELCOME.

AND, UH, S3 CASTLE HALL.

UH, THAT'S COMPLETED ALONG WITH DIET DETAIL ROAD AND FIRST BOULEVARD AND SPANISH POINT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UH, THIS IS A PICTURE WE TOOK OF IT FOR THE FINISHED PRODUCT THERE ON FORTON ISLAND.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THESE ARE THREE WINDSHIELD TO WINDSHIELD VIEWS.

THIS WAS ABOUT A 3.63 MILE.

THERE WAS NO WIDENING INVOLVED.

UH, THIS WAS A EIGHT INCH FULL PATCH.

UH, IT ACTUALLY REQUIRED LESS PATCHING THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.

UH, AND AS I JUST MENTIONED, THEY'RE DOING SOME SIGNAL COORDINATION IN TERMS OF CUTTING THE DETECTION LOOPS AT NIGHT.

UH, AND THEY SHOULD BE FINISHED WITH THAT BY SEPTEMBER 24TH.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, VERY FAMOUS S3 CASTLE HALL.

UH, THIS ONE HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

THIS IS THE FINISHED PRODUCT AS OF ABOUT TWO AND A HALF, THREE WEEKS AGO.

UH, THE FINAL THING THAT APEX IS GONNA BE DOING, UH, WILL BE SCHEDULING FOR THE THERMO AND RPMS. NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS IS THE ONE I WANNA KIND OF GO THROUGH A LITTLE DETAIL ON WITH EVERYBODY.

FOR THOSE WHO KNOW THE HISTORY, MAY NOT KNOW THE HISTORY OF CASTLE HALL.

UH, THIS WAS BUILT PROBABLY BACK IN THE 1920S WITH A CONCRETE BASE WITH A SURFACE OVERLAY ON IT.

AND WHENEVER THEY HAD THAT TRAIN DERAIL MADE, A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC WAS DETOURED, UH, DOWN THAT ROAD.

SO IT PRETTY MUCH TORE UP THE ROAD.

SO PART OF THE CONTRACT WAS TO REMOVE THAT SURFACE OVERLAY, UH, DO SOME CONCRETE PATCHING, BUT THAT'S MORE OF A BANDAID.

SO WE WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING MORE LONG TERM.

SO EITHER WE'RE GONNA BUILD A STRUCTURE OR LONGEVITY.

IN THIS CASE, WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO BOTH.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT FIRST PICTURE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM LEFT GOING TO RIGHT AND COME DOWN, ONE OF OUR WORKERS WAS PROBABLY UP TO HIS WAIST.

UH, 'CAUSE WE WERE DEALING WITH SOME VERY ADVERSE, UH, CONDITIONS WITH THE SOIL.

AND SO THE ONLY OPTION WE HAD WAS TO DO A SOIL CEMENT TREATMENT.

SO AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND IT SAY A PICTURE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS, THIS IS WORTH SEVERAL THOUSAND.

UH, SO AS YOU GO ACROSS, AS THEY WERE TRYING TO, UH, DO THEIR TURNING THE SOIL COMPACT AND ENG GRADING IT, UH, WE COULDN'T DO IT.

SO THAT ROAD ACTUALLY HELD WATER.

AND SO WE GAVE IT ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS, WE LET IT BAKE OUT.

UH, THEY CUT WEEP HOLES ALONG THE SIDE SO THAT WAY THE SUBGRADE COULD ACTUALLY DRAIN WITH THE, THE WATER TO THE SIDES.

AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE BUILT THAT CRUST UP ON TOP.

SO THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO TURN THAT SOIL, COMPACT IT, AND GRADE IT.

AND AS YOU GO ALONG IT TOWARDS THE FINAL PICTURE OF THE BOTTOM RIGHT, THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE DEALT WITH.

SO THERE WAS ABOUT A 200 FOOT SECTION THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD TO BRIDGE.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY BRIDGE, WE DUG DOWN ABOUT THREE FEET, PUT DOWN STRUCTURAL GEO TECH.

UH, WE BUILT UP ABOUT TWO FOOT COMPACTED, IT DID ANOTHER FOOT.

UH, AND THEN WE CAME BACK WITH OUR BASE INTERMEDIATE AND OUR SURFACE.

SO, AND WE DID A 10 INCH MRB.

SO ORIGINALLY THIS ROAD WAS ABOUT 18 FEET WIDE.

IT WAS GONNA BE A MILL SURFACE PATCH CONCRETE.

WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP DOING, THE ROAD IS NOW 22 FEET WIDE.

WE DID A SOIL CEMENT TREATMENT OF 12 INCHES.

I CHANGED FROM 10 INCH TO 12 INCHES.

UH, WE BRIDGED 200 FOOT, A 250 FOOT SECTION, UH, LAID DOWN GEOTECH.

WE RECONFIGURED THE CATCH BASIN, THE, THE BOTTOM RIGHT PITCHER, THE CATCH BASIN DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW.

I HAD TO MOVE IT FURTHER TO THE RIGHT, UH, TO AVOID ANYBODY FROM DRIVING OVER IT.

UM, AND WE ALSO ADDED SOME, UH, UPDATED SIGNS.

THERE WERE NO

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SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ON THE ROAD.

SO THERE ARE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS.

NOW, THERE ARE NOW STOP SIGNS THAT MEET THE CRITERIA IN TERMS OF REFLECTIVITY.

UH, AND THEY DID PUT NEW PAYMENT MARKETS OUT THERE TOO.

SO IT'S THE COST OVERRUN.

NO, WE ACTUALLY WAS, BECAUSE WE CAME UNDER WITH THE PATCHING ON 40, WE WERE ABLE TO SHIFT MONIES TO COVER THE WORK ON THIS ONE.

SO NO ADDITIONAL MONEY WAS REQUIRED.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA COME UNDER ON THIS JOB.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

YES, SIR.

SO NOW WE'VE BUILT FOR NOT JUST STRUCTURE, BUT LONGEVITY, YOU COULD DRIVE A TANK DOWN THIS ROAD AND NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. SO WITH CMRB? YES, SIR.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THIS IS DETOUR ROAD, UH, 1.01 MILES.

THIS WAS ATTENDANCE CMRB WITH SINGLE TREATMENT AND 200 POUND SURFACE.

UH, AS WERE THE OTHER JOBS, APAC IS WAITING UNTIL THEY GET TOWARDS THE END TO SCHEDULE PETE TO COME DOWN TO DO THE THERMO, UH, AND SOME RPMS. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS FIRST BOULEVARD IN SPANISH POINT, UH, 1.53 MILES, NO WIDENING.

THIS WAS AN EIGHT INCH FULL DEAF PATCH MILL AND FILL.

AND ON THIS ONE, THE SAME TRAFFIC, UH, SIGNAL COORDINATION, UH, WITH THE LOOPS.

AND THERE WAS SOME MINOR SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT AS WELL.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THIS IS OUR OVERALL PROJECT SUMMARY FOR WHAT WE HAVE IN BEAUFORT IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL CONTRACT, UH, WHAT THE FINAL COSTS ARE AND ANY VARIANCE.

AND RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR THE ONES WITH THE FINAL COSTS, WE'RE COMING UNDER BY ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, ON A LOT OF THESE JOBS.

AND I WANT TO DO TWO HONORABLE MENTIONS.

ONE, UH, 2100, WHICH IS THE SC ONE 16 LAUREL BAY ROAD, S 5 97 STANLEY ROAD INTERSECTION.

THAT IS A ROUNDABOUT.

UH, IT WAS JUST LET SEPTEMBER 9TH.

UH, IF EVERYTHING STAYS ON TRACK, APAC SHOULD BE THE ONES DOING THAT.

AND I'M GONNA HAVE ICE DOING THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT INSPECTION FOR ME, UH, TO HELP ME AUGMENT THAT.

THE OTHER FUTURE JOB.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LET THIS NOVEMBER, BUT IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY COME OUT JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR.

AND IT'S A RECONSTRUCTION REHABILITATION AND PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, UH, FOR CIVIL ROUTES IN THE BEAUFORT AREA.

ONE OF THEM BEING AS YOU GET DOWN THE SC 46 TO THE, TO THE ROUNDABOUT.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET THAT SECTION IS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA START.

AND THEY'RE GONNA GO BACK ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF, UH, WITH RECONSTRUCTION, WELL ACTUALLY MILL AND FIELD.

AND I JUST KIND OF WANT TO GIVE SOME SHOUT OUTS TO THE CONTRACTOR.

UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE WALK AS WE'RE DRIVING DOWN THERE, WE FORGET ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS THIS WORK CAN BE.

UH, AND THERE'VE BEEN SOME PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LOST THEIR LIVES JUST RECENTLY.

YEP.

UH, APPLE SPACE CONTROLS DOING A LOT OF WORKFORCE APAC, UH, WHO DID A LOT OF THE WORK ON, UH, CASTLE HALL THAT YOU SAW.

BLYTHE, UH, TRP, WHO'S NOW DOING THE NEW ONE FOR THE PAVE MARKINGS DISTRICT WIDE FORCE.

UH, AND THEN ALSO OUR CIS WHO HELP AUGMENT MY STYLE, MEET AND HUNT KCI AND ICE.

UH, SO A LOT OF TIMES WE TAKE FOR GRANTED, FORGET THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR HEAD ON SWIVEL TO KIND OF TAKING A LOOK AT THE PASSING MOTORISTS AND PLUS ALL THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, THE LAST THING I WANNA SAY, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR OWN DARLING BROON.

I THINK SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN, MAY HAVE HEARD THE NAME.

SHE WAS WORKING ON THE I 95 PROJECT, THE BIG ONE THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD BETWEEN SOUTH CAROLINA AND GEORGIA.

WE LOST HER ABOUT TWO, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO JUST PASSED AWAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO SHE WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL, INTEGRAL, HELPED ME ALONG MY, MY MY WIFE FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AT DOT.

SO SHE'LL BE, UH, SORELY MISSED.

AND THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? AND AS THEY SAY, EXCUSE OUR DUST, WE'RE BUILDING ROADS.

THEY SAY YOU BUILD IT, THEY'LL COME.

SO THEY ARE COMING TO SOUTH CAROLINA.

YOU'RE YES, SIR.

GOT THAT RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MUCH.

RUSTY.

YOU'RE

[5.B. CTC RESURFACING AND PRESERVATION PROJECTS (Year 9) ]

UP NEXT.

MR. CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE.

UH, THE YEAR UNITED RESURFACING.

THE, UH, SIR, I'LL MAKE A CORRECTION THERE.

THAT RESURFACING IS NOT COMPLETE.

THEY HAVE BURKE SPEECH TO DO TOMORROW, AND THAT WILL FINISH UP THE, UH, COUNTY YEAR NINE ROADS.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE JUST WORKING ON TOWARDS THE PUNCH LIST AND WAITING ON PEAK TO, UH, DO THERMAL.

SO WE SHOULD, SHOULD BE ON SCHEDULE TO FINISH BY THE END OF THE MONTH.

ON SCHEDULE, ON PLAN.

UH, MICROSURFACING IS COMPLETE.

AGAIN, WE'RE WAITING ON PEAK TO FINISH THERMOPLASTIC.

AND THEN, UM, REJUVENATOR HAS BEEN COMPLETE.

MR. KEN HOLTON'S HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON SOME OF THE TESTING THAT WE'RE, WE'VE DONE.

BEFORE WE GO ON, BRIAN, HAS THERE ANY MORE BEEN TALKED WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD CONCERNING BURKES BEACH AND ARROW ROAD? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT RECENTLY, SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, THE TOWN NOW THAT IT'S BEEN COMPLETELY RESURFACED.

BOTH OF THEM HAVE BEEN RESURFACED.

THEY OUGHT TO TAKE THEM OVER.

AND I'VE, I'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH SOME TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL.

THAT'S NOW'S THE IDEAL TIME FOR US TO GIVE THE ROADS TO THEM.

SLIDE, UH,

[5.C. SCDOT SECONDARY ROADS 0/500 ADT AND 500/2000 ADT UPDATE ]

SECONDARY ROADS 500 ZERO TO 500 AND 500 2080 DT.

UM, ALL THE STATE ROADS ARE PAVED.

THE, UH, CONTRACTOR'S WORKING ON THE PUNCH LIST TO FINISH UP THOSE.

AND, UM, ALSO GET THE, UH, THERMOPLASTIC

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COMPLETED.

THE, UH, 2027 STATE ROADS ARE BEING EVALUATED AND QUANTITIES ARE BEING WORKED BY, UH, F AND ME.

UH, WE SHOULD BE GETTING THOSE DOCUMENTS BACK.

I BELIEVE I JUST GOT THOSE DOCUMENTS BACK TONIGHT, SO, UH, BEFORE I LEFT THE OFFICE.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE, MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT SOON.

OKAY.

OH, NEXT SLIDE.

[5.D. DIRT ROAD PAVING UPDATE ]

UH, DIRT ROADS 55.

UM, DOLPHIN WATCH IS COMPLETE, ACTUALLY.

THEY'RE ALL PAVED.

UH, EVERYTHING IS COMPLETE.

UM, WE'RE WAITING ON, UH, JAMES D FOR SOME FINAL, UH, UM, SHOULDER WORK AND DITCH CLEANING AND, UH, AND THEN THERMO ON THAT.

BUT, UM, JOHN ISN'T HERE TO CELEBRATE .

WE DID GET AN EMAIL, I THINK FROM, YOU GOT A CALL FROM HIM, DID YOU? YEAH.

THANKING US FOR, UH, FOR THE ROAD.

SO, UM, AND THEN WE DID DO A FINAL WALK WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UH, ON THE LEO GREEN FREDERICA AND DOLPHIN, UH, TO TURN THOSE OVER.

ONCE WE FINISH JAMES D WE'LL GET THOSE TURNED OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS.

OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND, UH, FINALLY, UH, DIRT ROAD 55.

UH, THOSE ROADS ARE STILL, UH, BEING, UH, PLANS ARE WORKING ON PLANS AND PERMITTING THROUGH, UH, DAVIS AND FLOYD.

THOSE ARE GIBSON, AILEY, FARM, JOHNSON LANDING, AND MONTGOMERY LANE.

STILL WORKING THROUGH THE QUESTION.

OKAY, JARED, YOU'RE

[5.E. HILTON HEAD BRIDGES UPDATE ]

UP NEXT.

AND BEFORE YOU GET HERE, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU.

I HEARD THAT YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB LAST NIGHT IN PRESENTATIONS YOU MADE AT A COUNTY COUNCIL.

GET TOGETHER.

YES.

SO WE HAD A COUNTY COUNCIL GET TOGETHER AT THE HILTON HEAD LIBRARY, TALK ABOUT ALL THINGS SALES TAX AND INFORMATION.

JUST A QUICK PLUG ON THAT.

UM, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT MORE WHAT'S INCLUDED, WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED, THERE'S A HOST OF INFORMATION ON OUR COUNTY WEBSITE@BEAUFORTCOUNTYPENNY.COM.

SO GO ON THERE, YOU CAN GET ALL THE FACTS AND FIGURES, UM, AND YOU CAN TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

UM, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ECHO, UM, UH, CHAIRMAN HOWARD'S COMMENTS TO YOU, CHAIRMAN GORDON, THAT YOUR TIME SPENT ON THE CTC HAS BEEN, UM, EXTREMELY MEANINGFUL AND VALUABLE.

UM, YOU'VE HELPED US PROGRESS.

WE'VE DEVELOPED NOT JUST, UH, PROJECTS TO DO, BUT A DATA-DRIVEN PROCESS.

UM, WE'VE ON OUR, ON OUR SECOND FIVE YEAR PLAN AND MOVING TOWARDS A THIRD FIVE YEAR PLAN.

AND I WOULD ARGUE TO SAY THAT IT'S ONE OF OUR MOST FUNCTIONAL PLANS AS FAR AS A COUNTY-WIDE PLAN THAT WE HAVE THAT'S REOCCURRING AND PLANNING AND EFFECTIVE.

AND THAT'S THANKS TO YOUR LEADERSHIP.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

AS FAR AS HILTON HEAD BRIDGE, UM, SO I GAVE A SIMILAR UPDATE AT AT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING YESTERDAY AS WELL AHEAD OF THE, THE SALES TAX MEETING.

AND TO, TO PUT IT, LONG STORY SHORT, IS THE PROJECT, AS IT'S BEEN REDEFINED, WHICH IS THE EASTBOUND BRIDGE REPLACEMENT PROJECT ONLY, UM, IS MOVING AS SCHEDULED AND ADVANCING NICELY.

SO EARLIER IN THE YEAR, IN THE MAY, JUNE TIMEFRAME, WE RECEIVED OUR FINAL, UM, APPROVAL FROM FEDERAL HIGHWAY ON OUR NEPA DOCUMENT, OUR FONZI FINDING OF NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS, WHICH IS THE GREEN LIGHT TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD.

SO, UM, IT ALLOWS US TO GET STARTED ON RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND UTILITY COORDINATION AND FINAL DESIGN AND PERMITTING.

SO WE'RE DOING ALL THREE OF THOSE MEASURES NOW.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF UTILITY COORDINATION WITH BOTH THE HILTON HEAD, PSD AND WATER LINES AS WELL AS POWER LINES, AND THEN COMMUNICATION.

UM, ALSO RIGHT AWAY YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY ON THE JOB, BUT FOR A $300 MILLION JOB, THERE'S, IT'S EITHER FIVE OR FOUR PARCELS.

UM, ONE IS A GIANT PARCEL IN THE MIDDLE OWNED BY FISH AND WILDLIFE.

UM, WE ARE COORDINATING WITH THAT AND SO THAT, THAT'S GOING WELL.

AND THEN SOME TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AND THEN SOME OTHER PARCELS.

SO, UM, THE INTENT IS THAT THE DESIGN WOULD BE COMPLETE BY SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR.

THAT ALLOWS DOT TO PUT IT OUT TO BID IN THE FALL AND WINTERS OF NEXT YEAR AND HAVE A CONTRACT SCHEDULED AND A CONTRACT READY TO GET STARTED AT THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, 2028.

UM, IT'S A 30 MONTH TIMEFRAME AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT WOULD GIVE US A COMPLETION DATE IN THE LATTER PART OF 2030.

SO WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE, WE'RE STILL TRACKING.

UH, A LAST BIT OF NEWS THAT ALSO PROVIDED AS AN UPDATE TO TOWN OF HILTON HEAD IS A LARGE BRIDGE GRANT APPLICATION.

THAT WAS SOMETHING WE SUBMITTED.

WE HAD A DELTA, UM, OF $200 MILLION BETWEEN CURRENT FUNDING AND THE FULL PROJECT.

WE COULDN'T FIND THAT FUNDING, SO WE SHIFTED TO THE REDEFINED PROJECT, BUT WE DID END UP APPLYING FOR THAT BRIDGE GRANT IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.

UM, IT WASN'T UNTIL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT WE FINALLY HEARD SOMETHING BACK FROM FEDERAL HIGHWAY.

INITIALLY IT WAS A NO.

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UM, BUT THEY GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEBRIEF AND FIND OUT WHAT THAT WAS.

UM, THEY ALLOWED US A TWO WEEK TIMEFRAME TO UPDATE OUR APPLICATION AND RESUBMIT THAT.

SO WE HAVE, SO IT'S BACK IN THEIR COURT AGAIN TO REVIEW FEDERAL HIGHWAY REVIEWS IT.

THEN THEY MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THEIR BOSS AT U-S-D-O-T, WHO ULTIMATELY, UM, AWARDS ARE NOT AWARDS.

UM, IF IN THE FACT THAT WE DO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO AWARD, THAT'LL HAVE TO BE TAKEN UP WITH ALL OF OUR, OUR PARTNERS, OUR FUNDING AND STRATEGIC PARTNERS ON THE PROJECT, BECAUSE WE'RE PRETTY FAR ALONG ON THE REDEFINED PROJECT.

DO WE, DO WE SAY, UM, YES TO THE AWARD AND KIND OF RESTART THE OLD PROJECT OR DO WE SAY NO THANKS AND CONTINUE ON THE EXISTING PROJECT? SO THAT'LL BE A DECISION.

WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE WHEN WE WOULD EXPECT ANYTHING.

WE EXPECTED IT TO BE A MONTH OR TWO ON INITIALLY IN AUGUST.

AND IT TOOK UNTIL, UM, OC A WHOLE YEAR TO HEAR BACK.

SO, UM, I DON'T EXPECT A YEAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW TIMELINE ON WHEN WE'LL HEAR FINALITY WHETHER WE GOT IT OR, UM, DID NOT GET THAT AWARD.

SO THAT IS WHERE WE ARE.

AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

YES, SIR.

WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE FREQUENCY OF THE, UH, ENGINEERING REVIEW FOR THE MACKEY CREEK BRIDGETOWN? UM, I BELIEVE THEY'VE MOVED THAT TO YEARLY.

IT MAY BE, BRIAN, DO YOU KNOW IF IT'S MORE THAN YEARLY INSPECTIONS? DOT HAS IT AS A HIGH PRIORITY AND THEY'RE KEEPING A CLOSE TAB ON ITS CONDITIONS, UM, AND STAND READY IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO MAKE.

UM, ONE THING TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, AND THIS CAME UP LAST NIGHT AT TOWN OF HILTON HEAD, ONE THING THAT SECRETARY POWELL AT DOT DID MENTION, HIS INTENT AND GOAL IS NOT FOR THAT BRIDGE TO BE LOAD RATED.

UM, AND SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COMES UP WITH A FUTURE INSPECTION, THEIR GOAL IS TO ACT QUICKLY TO MAKE SURE IT CAN KEEP THAT TRAFFIC UNTIL A FUTURE BRIDGE IS CONSTRUCTED.

I I, THIS IS A PERSONAL OBSERVATION.

I THINK, UH, IF THE MAKE NO MISTAKE IF, UH, IF THE MACKEY CREEK BRIDGE FAILS OR IT IS, YEAH.

SO DOT WILL BE PROBABLY THE MAIN DECISION MAKER IN THE ACCEPTANCE OF THAT GRANT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MAIN, THE OWNER AND, UM, RESPONSIBLE ENTITY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE ALL PARTNERS AND WE'RE PART OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE SIB AND THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S MAINTAINING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE INTEGRITY.

YOU'RE BUSINESS RESTARTING A LOT OF CLOCKS, UH, BECAUSE THE NEW PROJECT, IF IT IS, I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE, THE, THE PRESENT NEPA CON, UH, COMPLIANCE IS NOT GONNA BE APPLICABLE BECAUSE THE CATEGORICAL EXCLUSION THAT IT'S FLYING UNDER RIGHT NOW IS NOT GONNA WORK.

YES.

SO NEA DATA IS TERRIBLY DATED RIGHT NOW.

YES.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T THROW THE OLD PROJECT AWAY IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT, AND WE DID THIS IN CONCERT WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY.

THEY KNEW THAT WE WERE MAKING THE SUBMISSION, SO WE TOOK THE OLD ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT THAT WAS NEARLY COMPLETE BESIDES REASONABLE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING, AND WE SET THAT ON THE SHELF, AND THEN WE REDEFINED THE PROJECT WITH A RE WITH A NEW PURPOSE AND A NEW ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT TO WHAT WE HAVE TO NOW, IT IS A CATEGORICAL EXCLUSION.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S ADVANCED.

NOW, IF THE DECISION, IF THE GRANT CAME, THERE'S A LOT OF IFS IN THIS CONVERSATION, BUT IF THE GRANT CAME AND IF THE DECISION WAS TO GO BACK TO THE OLD PROJECT, THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT WOULD THEN PUT ON A DIFFERENT SHELF.

WE'D PICK UP THE OLD DOCUMENT FROM WHERE IT WAS AT ITS CURRENT STATUS AND BRING IT FORWARD, AND IT'D BE REALLY CLOSE TO ADVANCE IT TO APPROVAL, UH, FROM WHERE IT WAS LEFT LAST.

OKAY.

I WON'T, I WON'T ARGUE THE POINT, BUT IT'S A VERY, IT'S A, IT IS A DECISION FRAUGHT WITH A LOT OF RISK, AND SO I WOULD URGE DOT OR COUNTY COUNCIL.

ABSOLUTELY.

I UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR BEST GUESS AS TO WHAT THE POSSIBLE DELTA IS? IS THAT TWO, THREE YEARS A DELTA? AS FAR AS TIME? IF, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU, INITIALLY WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE DELTA WAS, IT WAS IN LINE, BUT WE NEEDED A DECISION EARLY ON NOW.

I

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MEAN, WE'VE GOT A YEAR AND A HALF OF WORK THAT, OR A YEAR OF WORK THAT'S TAKEN PLACE SINCE.

UM, SO IF WE GOT A DECISION HERE SHORTLY, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN A YEAR AND A HALF OR TWO YEARS ADDITIONAL TIMELINE TO BASICALLY START THE BRIDGE DESIGN ON THE OLD PROJECT BACK OVER AND GET IT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS MUCH, JERRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

[6.A. PRESENTATION BY SCDOT C PROGRAM MANAGER ]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

MR. CHAD RAW.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.

I I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED COMING TO THIS PART OF THE STATE.

I DON'T GET TO COME DOWN HERE ENOUGH, BUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES I WASN'T GONNA PASS ON THE OPPORTUNITY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IN, IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THE MAKEUP OF THIS COMMITTEE COULD BE HAVING SOME MAJOR CHANGES.

AND I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THIS BODY AS IT SITS TODAY FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST 11 YEARS WITH CHAIRMAN GORDON AT THE HELM.

UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, BACK IN MAY, GOVERNOR HENRY HENRY MASTER SIGNED THE S-C-D-O-T TRANSPORTATION MODERNIZATION ACT.

UM, THE MAIN GOAL OF THAT WAS TO TRY TO HELP THE DOT DELIVER PROJECTS A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN WE DO, TRY TO MAKE SOME AVENUES A LITTLE EASIER FOR US TO DO THINGS.

WELL, AS PART OF THAT, PART OF THAT, THE RESEARCH THAT WENT IN BEHIND THAT, THERE WAS ALSO SOME CHANGES THAT CAME ABOUT WITH CTCS.

THERE ARE SOME CHANGES IN THE LAW THAT ARE CTCS ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO ABIDE BY NOW.

AND IN THE BACKGROUND FOR THAT RESEARCH, I DID A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY WITH THE LEGISLATURE.

THEY ASKED ME A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT CTC, UM, FUNDING QUESTIONS, UM, HOW FUNDS ARE DISTRIBUTED, HOW MUCH MONEY CTCS ARE HOLDING TO HOW MUCH IS COMMITTED, HOW MUCH IS UNCOMMITTED.

BUT YOU KNOW, INEVITABLY THE QUESTION ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO WHO'S GETTING IT RIGHT AND WHO'S STRUGGLING.

AND I'VE BEEN ASKED THAT QUESTION ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION.

AND EVERY TIME THAT SOMEBODY ASKS ME WHO'S GETTING IT RIGHT, I USE YOUR COMMITTEE AS THE EXAMPLE OF THAT.

AND YOU DO, YOU DO THINGS THAT A LOT OF OTHER CTCS DO, AND YOU DO THINGS THAT, THAT ARE INNOVATIVE THAT OTHER CTCS DON'T.

BUT THE MAGIC IS IN THE WAY YOU WRAP IT TOGETHER TO PUT YOUR, THE WAY YOU COLLECT YOUR DATA, YOUR, YOU KNOW, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT YOUR FIVE YEAR PLANS, YOU'VE GOT FIVE YEAR PLANS, UM, THE WAY YOU SERVICE YOUR CITIZENS.

UM, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO PUBLIC OFFICIALS BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO KNOW THAT, THAT YOU'VE GOT SHELF READY PROJECTS WITH, IF THEY COME UP TO YOU WITH ONE TIME FUNDING THAT ARE READY TO GO ON THE STREET AND THEY CAN SEE THE RESULTS.

AND THAT MEANS A LOT.

SO, SO EVEN OUTSIDE YOUR OWN LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION HERE IN BEAUFORT, THERE ARE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATIONS ALL AROUND THE STATE THAT UNDERSTAND WHAT A GOOD JOB THAT THIS COMMITTEE DOES.

UM, AND IT'S EVEN OUTSIDE THE LEGISLATURE.

I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME FROM OTHER CTCS, THERE'LL BE NEW CHAIRMAN, THERE'LL BE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN HOW THOSE CTCS FUNCTION.

THERE'LL BE, I WENT TO A-A-C-T-C MEETING FOR A COUNTY IN THE MIDLANDS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, WHERE THREE QUARTERS OF THE COMMITTEE HAD TURNED OVER IN A MONTH.

THO THEY WERE, THEY NEEDED A CRASH COURSE ON HOW TO RUN A CTC.

AND IN THOSE MEETINGS, I ALWAYS USE SOME OF THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AS EXAMPLE, OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT BUFORT HAS.

Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.

UM, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF FUNDING COMPARED TO SOME OF THE SMALLER COUNTIES.

BUT EVEN WITH THE DIFFERENCES, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME NUGGET ABOUT THE WAY YOU DO BUSINESS THAT I CAN SHARE WITH SOMEBODY THAT SEEMS TO HELP THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS.

SO YOU'RE NOT ONLY HELPING THE PEOPLE HERE IN BEAUFORT, YOU'RE HELPING THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STATE, AND YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU, AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO COME DOWN HERE WITH ME, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UM, I COULD STAND HERE AND RAMBLE ON FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP IT FAIRLY BRIEF.

WE HAVE TALKED A LONG TIME, WE'VE TALKED A LONG TIME AT THE DOT ABOUT RECOGNIZING CTCS THAT DO USE THE PHRASE THAT ARE DOING IT RIGHT.

AND WE, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY PULLED THE TRIGGER ON IT, BUT GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES HERE TODAY, I COULDN'T THINK OF A COMMITTEE THAT WAS MORE FITTING TO RECEIVE THE INAUGURAL AWARD.

SO ON BEHALF OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, I'M GOING TO PRESENT THIS COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE.

AND I'M GOING TO LET CHAIRMAN GORDON REPRESENT YOU THE TRANSPORTATION EXCELLENCE AWARD.

I'M GONNA READ THE AWARD TO YOU AND I'M

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GONNA HAND IT OVER TO CHAIRMAN GORDON TRANSPORTATION EXCELLENCE AWARD, BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE PAVING THE WAY FOR STRONGER COMMUNITIES, A RECOGNITION OF YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE AND COMMITMENT TO BUILDING SAFER, STRONGER, AND MORE ACCEPTABLE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY.

ON BEHALF OF THE S-E-D-T-O-S-E-D-O-T FOR SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2027.

WELL, THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

UM, YOU AND COULD WE GET EVERYBODY, UH, COMMITTEE TO COME DOWN WITH CHAD A WIDE ANGLE? HEY, I GOTTA ACT LIKE YOU LOVE EACH OTHER.

THANKS, CHAD.

I DIDN'T EXACTLY SEE THAT COMING.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS

[6.B. NON-RECURRING DISTRIBUTION $175M ]

THAT JUST, UM, HAPPENED IS YOU'LL SEE IT SAYS 175 MILLION.

UM, WHAT HAS BASICALLY HAPPENED IS THAT, UH, WE'RE GETTING SOME NON-RECURRING FUNDS PROVIDED TO US.

IT WAS 175 MILLION GIVEN OUT ACROSS THE STATE TO ALL THE CTCS.

OUR CTC FUNDING WAS AN ADDITIONAL 4,000,040 $8,000.

WITH OUR APPORTIONMENT THIS YEAR, IT GIVES US $6.7 MILLION TO SPEND.

AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR, WE TALKED ABOUT PAVING SOME MORE OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY THAT, UM, WE HAD ROUGHLY FOUR TO 5 MILLION LEFT OVER TO THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE NEEDING TO MEET THE CHALLENGES OF SPENDING SOME MONEY, AND IT'S A GOOD CHALLENGE TO HAVE.

SO WE'RE IN A VERY GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION TO ACCEPT THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

AND, UM, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THERE'LL BE ONE OF YOUR CHALLENGES COMING UP NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

SEEING YOU, NONE,

[6.C. RECLAMITE RESULTS PRESENTATION ]

KEN, YOU'RE UP, MY FRIEND.

THANK YOU, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, HAVING COMING OUTTA THE PUBLIC SECTOR, UM, IT, IT'S REALLY BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE SUPPORT THAT THE, THE CTC HAS HAD.

AND I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU.

UH, YOU'VE HAD ME TALK A COUPLE OF TIMES, UH, ABOUT OUR PROGRAMS WITH THE COUNTY AND, UM, THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, KIND OF POKE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN REALLY PROACTIVE ON AND, UH, SUPPORTIVE WITH THE COUNTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WANNA THANK THE COUNTY FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING US STARTED NINE YEARS AGO.

THIS IS YEAR NINE, AND WE'VE BEEN HERE ALL NINE.

IT WAS SNAKE LEVEL WHEN WE FIRST STARTED.

IT WAS, IT WAS, AND IT, IT MIGHT STILL BE TO SOME PEOPLE , BUT NOT TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VETTING IT.

SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR YOUR TIME SERVING THE COMMITTEE

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AND, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE, UH, HAVING US, UH, BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.

SO THANK YOU.

WHAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA TALK QUICKLY ABOUT IS THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, RECEIVING HERE IN THE COUNTY, UM, WITH OUR MALTING REJUVENATION MATERIAL.

AND, UH, RECENTLY THE ADDITION OF A TITANIUM DIOXIDE PHOTO CATALYTIC MATERIAL.

UH, WHAT BOTH OF THOSE DO, UH, WON THE FIRST ONE MALTING REPLACEMENT.

THAT'S A PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE MEASURE FOR THE, UH, FOR THE ROADWAY.

SO YOU GET A NEW ROAD, YOU WANNA KEEP IT IN GREAT SHAPE, UM, THIS SLOWS DOWN THAT DETERIORATION AND, UH, AND THEN THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE IS GONNA HELP GET SOME CO-BENEFITS IN THAT ROADWAY ENVIRONMENT, WHICH, UH, CLEAN UP THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR LOGO THERE, THE 50 PLUS, UM, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS OVER 50 YEARS AND, UH, SINCE 1972, SO 54 YEARS.

AND THE, UM, THE FROG THAT YOU SEE IN THERE, THAT IS OUR SMOG FROG.

AND SO WE'RE GONNA TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE CLEANUP THAT THE SMOG FROG DOES WITH US.

SO, AM AM I DOING THIS OR YOU ARE, YOU WANT TO THEN? OKAY.

IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.

IT, IT'S FINE EITHER WAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO, UM, THE, UH, THE, BASICALLY THESE ARE THE, THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE DO, WHAT THE, WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.

UM, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1972 AND WE WORK IN 13 STATES, EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI.

SO WE WORK FOR A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UH, AGENCIES.

AND, UH, THE SUPPORT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SHOWN US HAS BEEN VERY, VERY GOOD.

AND, UH, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

SO NINE CONSISTENT YEARS AND, UH, AND, AND LOOKING FORWARD.

UM, THE, THE TRUCK ON THE TOP THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS THE PROCESS IS THE, UH, TRUCK IN THE MIDDLE.

UM, I'M GLAD SOUTH CAROLINA DOT IS HERE.

THAT'S A MATERIAL CALLED JOINT JOINT BOND.

IT'S A JOINT STABILIZATION, UM, THAT, THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF AS WELL AS THE, THE LOWER PICTURE THAT'S OUR TITANIUM DIOXIDE, UH, GOING DOWN IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.

SO THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE KIND OF OUT ON THE ROADWAY.

UM, IF YOU SEE US WORKING, UM, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, HAVE A, A ROADWAY, UH, UNDER, UM, TRAFFIC CONTROL.

IT'LL BE TEMPORARY.

SO THIS WHOLE PROCESS TAKES ABOUT, UH, AN HOUR START TO FINISH ON ANY SINGLE ROADWAY, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF ROADWAY IT IS AND ALL HOW MUCH TRAFFIC CONTROL SET UP, BUT IT'S ABOUT AN HOUR.

UM, THE PINK MATERIAL REC MITE THAT YOU SEE, THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED.

AND FOR THE LAST, I BELIEVE THREE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN USING THE YELLOW MATERIAL ON SOME OF SOME ROADS STRATEGICALLY.

AND THAT'S OUR TITANIUM DIOXIDE.

THIS MATERIAL, THOSE ARE DYES IN THE MATERIAL.

JUST EVERYBODY KNOWS THE ROAD DOESN'T STAY THAT COLOR.

THAT'S JUST A, UM, A QUALITY CONTROL MEASURE THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT TRUCK IS ACTUALLY DOING A VERY GOOD APPLICATION RATE.

AND, AND WE'RE ALSO WATCHING THE PENETRATION OF THE MATERIAL, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE ALL THOSE NOZZLES ARE WORKING FOR A UNIFORM COVERAGE OVER THE ROADWAY.

SO THIS IS REAL, UM, SCIENCE, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS.

WE'LL TAKE A REAL QUICK THOUGHT PROCESS HERE.

IF YOU, IF YOU THINK ABOUT LOOKING DOWN AT ANY ASPHALT PARKING LOT, IF YOU JUST LOOK DOWN AT THAT ASPHALT, ABOUT 94 TO 95% OF THAT PAVEMENT IS SOME KIND OF AGGREGATE.

IT'S A ROCK, UH, OR A, OR A SAND EVEN.

AND IT'S HELD TOGETHER BY ASPHALT CEMENT.

ASPHALT CEMENT BEGINS TO DEGRADE BECAUSE THE OILS AND RESINS THAT ARE INSIDE OF THAT PROCESS BEGIN TO LEAVE THE PROCESS.

OR THEY CONVERT FROM ONE STATE TO ANOTHER.

SO MALTING TO ASPHALTING.

AND THOSE LIQUIDS THAT YOU SEE POURING THERE OUT OF THOSE BEAKERS, THOSE ARE THE MALTING FRACTIONS, THEY'RE THE LIGHT OILS AND RESINS THAT ARE IN THE, UH, IN THE PAVEMENT.

KEEP HOLDING IT TOGETHER.

OUR PROCESS IS PUTTING THOSE OILS BACK INTO THE ASPHALT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

IT'S PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.

NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO IT.

NOT EVERYBODY SEES, I'M GONNA SAY, SEES THE VALUE UPFRONT.

BUT AGAIN, YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THAT VALUE AND NOW YOU'VE STUDIED IT FOR MANY YEARS.

WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A, A PRETTY EXTENSIVE VETTING PROCESS THAT, UH, THE BRIAN WAS ACTUALLY PART OF AS A CONSULTANT, UM, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY PROVIDING VALUE TO THE COUNTY.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL HERE NINE YEARS LATER.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE MIDDLE, I'M SORRY, THIS IS A LITTLE SMALL FOR, FOR US.

UH, BUT WHAT, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANNA SHOW THAT THE OILS, UH, THESE LIGHT OILS ARE ACTUALLY COMBINING AND FLUXING BECOMING PART OF THE PAVEMENT.

THE, UH, A, A LIGHT VISCOSITY OIL AND A HEAVY VISCOSITY ASPHALT CEMENT HOLDING THE, THE, UH, ROADWAY TOGETHER.

WHEN THEY BLEND TOGETHER, WE WANT TO HAVE A, UH, VISCOSITY REDUCTION THAT SHOWS THAT THIS, UH, CO-MINGLING OF THESE PRODUCTS IS ACTUALLY GONNA PROVIDE A RESILIENCY TO THE ASPHALT.

AND SO WHEN WE DID, UM, HANNA AVENUE AND PERRY CLEAR, NOW THIS IS WITH THESE PARTICULAR ROADS, WERE DONE WITH OUR A

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RA ONE TI BUT IT'S THE SAME MALTINGS.

UH, WE'RE SEEING SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A 40% REDUCTION IN THE VISCOSITY.

THAT MEANS WE'RE PUTTING THE OIL THAT'S BACK IN THAT, THAT NEEDS TO GO IN A ROAD TO KEEP IT, UH, FLEXIBLE AND ADHESIVE THE GLUE.

WE'RE PUTTING THAT BACK IN AND IT'S BECOMING PART OF THAT, UM, UH, PART OF THE ROAD.

OKAY, EXTENDING THE LONGEVITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPH TO THE RIGHT, THE RED LINE WOULD BE THE HARDNESS OF THE ROAD.

UH, IF WE JUST LET IT AGE NATURALLY, THOSE ARE CONTROL POINTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE ROADWAY.

SO WE KNOW THAT IT IS HARD AND IT'S ACCELERATING AS YOU SEE AT THE END, THAT, THAT TAIL TO THE FAR RIGHT, THE, THE ROAD IS GETTING, UH, HARDER, FASTER.

THAT TYPICALLY ACCELERATION AND HARDNESS THAT CORRESPONDS WITH AN INCREASE IN DEGRADATION.

SO THAT'S WHERE OUR PAVEMENT CONDITION BEGINS TO FALL OFF.

AND WHAT WE DO IS WE FOLLOW THAT GREEN LINE AND WE QUELL THAT DETERIORATION.

THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THE, THE LOWER, UM, GRAPH THERE THAT IS ON PERRY CLEAR AND HANNA AVENUE, WE WERE GETTING IN THE, UH, RIGHT AROUND 4,500 PARTS PER MILLION AVERAGE OF OUR TITANIUM DIOXIDE.

THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE IS A PHOTO CATALYST.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, WE, WE PULLED THESE OFF OF THE, UM, OF THE ROADWAY, BUT THESE ARE THE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BIG SIGNS HERE, THIS IS WHAT THAT TITANIUM DIOXIDE HAS SHOWN BENEFITS FOR IS CAPTURING VEHICULAR EMISSIONS.

SO YOU THINK TAILPIPE EMISSIONS NOX.

SO, UM, YOU MITIGATE HEAT ISLAND SOMEWHAT WITH THIS, WE EXTEND THE ROAD LIFE.

THAT MEANS LESS, UM, USE OF NEW MATERIALS.

UM, DECOMPOSE ROADWAY MICROPLASTICS HAS BEEN A GOOD BENEFIT AND ACCELERATE WATER DISPERSION.

SO WE ACTUALLY CHANGED THE SHAPE OF THE WATER DROP.

UM, ONE OF THE, KIND OF A, KIND OF A LITTLE ANTIDOTE WATER DISPLACEMENT.

UM, THE, A COMPANY CALLED TOTO USES TITANIUM DIOXIDE IN THEIR TOILETS AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE UV LIGHT UNDER THE TOILET BOWL.

AND WHEN YOU FLUSH THE TOILET, THE, UH, THE UV LIGHT COMES ON, CHANGES THE SHAPE OF THE WATER DROP, AND IT CLEANS THE TOILET.

BASICALLY THE, UH, WATER DROP GETS BEHIND THE DEBRIS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A, A NEAT THING.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE DO WITH THE ROADWAYS.

CHANGE THE SHAPE OF THE, THE WATER DROP AND THE WATER GETS OFF THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT FASTER.

IT'S, IF YOU GO BACK TO CHEMISTRY JUST A LITTLE BIT, UV LIGHT SUNLIGHT IS GOING TO EXCITE TITANIUM DIOXIDE.

THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE IS GOING TO RELEASE AN ELECTRON.

THE ELECTRON IS GOING TO, UH, RUN INTO H2O MOISTURE IN THE AIR THAT'S GONNA BREAK IT INTO A HYDROXYL RADICAL.

AND THAT RADICAL IS GOING TO BEGIN A, AN OXIDATIVE REDUCTION REACTION OR RUSTING, BASICALLY BREAKING APART ANY POLLUTION THAT COMES IN, IN, UH, CONTACT WITH.

WE'VE DONE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS WITH PURDUE AND TEXAS A AND M.

UH, WE'VE DONE SOME OTHER, UH, LOCAL UNIVERSITY WORK, UH, WITH DUKE, THE CITADEL AS WELL.

BUT, UM, THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE, THE BACKGROUND RESEARCH.

SO THIS IS NOT, UH, A MAKE BELIEF THING THAT WE HAVE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT'S BEING VETTED OUT THROUGH THE, UH, ACADEMIA.

AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY SOME OF THE, NOT ALL, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE PUBLISHED PAPERS.

UH, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN EN ENVIRON ENVIRONMENT, THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE.

UH, OR YOU WON'T, YOU WON'T SEE IT, BUT THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE, UH, ENVIRONMENT.

YOU'LL SEE THESE, UH, KINDA LIKE SCRUBBING BUBBLES AROUND THE, UH, THE ROADWAY ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S KIND OF CONTAINED WITHIN ABOUT A 15, UH, FOOT RADIUS AROUND THE ROADWAY.

AND IT DOES BREAK DOWN, UH, THE DIFFERENT DEBRIS.

I, I BELIEVE BRIAN, ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE DOING THIS WAS, UH, AROUND THE MARSH AREA.

AND, UH, AND TO SEE IF WE COULD BEGIN BREAKING DOWN SOME OF THE DEBRIS BEFORE IT GETS OFF THE ROADWAY, UH, INTO THE ACTUAL NATURE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.

UH, THIS IS ALONG THOSE LINES.

UM, THIS IS WHAT MICROPLASTIC WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S BROKEN DOWN.

UM, SO WE HAVE TO SIMULATE A LOT OF THIS IN THE LAB 'CAUSE IT'S VERY HARD TO SPECIFICALLY GET SOMETHING IN THE FIELD.

UM, BUT THOSE LITTLE BUBBLES, THEY BEGIN TO POP AND BREAK.

SO IF YOU GO FROM THE UPPER LEFT TO THE LOWER RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S LESS AND LESS HOLE BUBBLES.

AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY MICROPLASTICS BEING DEGRADED BY THE, UH, THE OXIDATIVE REDUCTION REACTION OF THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE.

AND IN ONE OF THE, UM, CO2 DIRECTLY THAT, THAT WE'RE, UH, ALSO HAVING AN EFFECT TO BREAK DOWN.

UH, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE THINGS, UM, ALL THE WAY ON THE FAR RIGHT, THOSE ARE LITTLE PETRI DISHES WITH MICROPLASTICS IN IT.

AND THOSE MICROPLASTICS ARE EITHER DRY, AS YOU SEE IN THE VERY TOP, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF GROUPED TOGETHER.

AND THEN WET WOULD BE, UH, DOWN BELOW.

AND IT KIND OF SIMULATES A, A COMPARISON BETWEEN MAYBE AN ARIZONA ROADWAY AND MAYBE A, A BEAUFORT COUNTY ROADWAY.

WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS THAT WE MIGHT BE IN? UM, IN THE FIRST 24 HOURS, THE MICROPLASTICS WILL BREAK DOWN TO SOME DEGREE UNDER UV LIGHT ONLY THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE, UH, CONTINUES THAT.

AND THE LOWER GREEN LI LINE THERE, THE HARD GREEN LINE THAT IS SHOWING THE, UH, DEGRADATION ASSISTANCE

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THAT THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE IS GIVING.

SO IT CON CONTINUES OVER TIME.

YEAH, WE HAVE, UM, A NUMBER OF THINGS, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE REALLY INTERESTED OR NOT, BUT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR LIFECYCLE ASSESSMENT WITH WAP THAT IS THE LEADER IN THE ASPHALT INDUSTRY TO, UM, TO SHOW WHAT WE ACTUALLY CAN ACCOMPLISH WITH USING OUR MATERIALS ON YOUR ROADS.

UM, AND WHAT THEY GIVE US, WE CLAIM ABOUT FIVE YEARS, BUT WHAT THEY'VE GIVEN US AFTER LOOKING AT ALL THE RESEARCH IS YOU'RE GETTING ABOUT A SEVEN YEAR LIFE EXTENSION, UM, FOR THE TREATMENT, AT LEAST THE FIRST TREATMENT OF THE, THE ASPHALT REJUVENATION.

AND THEN I'M, I'M GONNA SAY IT'S A DIMINISHING RETURN AFTER THAT, BUT YOU MAY GIVE ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS LESS FOR YOUR SECOND, UH, APPLICATION.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL PRODUCT DECLARATION, THAT'S ANOTHER BIG THING IN OUR INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW WITH THE, UM, UH, BEING IN, IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE GONE THROUGH THE, THAT WHOLE PROCESS AND, UH, AND WE'RE NOW CONTINUING ON WITH OUR, UM, OUR RESEARCH IN THESE AREAS.

BUT, BUT WE ARE FULLY VETTED IN THESE AREAS BY THIRD PARTY.

AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THE KIND OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THIS IS A, A ROADWAY GOING INTO, UH, BOSTON.

UM, THEY LIKE US TO TREAT THOSE SHOULDERS, UH, TO TRY TO STOP THE DEBRIS FROM, FROM, UH, GETTING ALL THE DEBRIS FROM GETTING OFF THE ROADWAY.

AND WE'RE TALKING DEBRIS LIKE TIRE WEAR AND BRAKE DUST.

UH, NOT THE BIG STUFF LIKE BLOWN TIRES.

IT, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT EFFECTIVE ON THAT.

BUT, UM, DEFINITELY ON THE SMALLER DEBRIS.

AND WITH THAT, UM, JUST WANNA KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYONE WANTS TO SCAN THE QR CODE THAT TAKES YOU TO OUR WEBSITE? YES.

HAVE YOU DONE, UH, COMPARATIVE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF FIRST OF ALL, STARTING WITH THE DO NOTHING OPTION SURE.

AND WHAT THE COST OF THAT IS, AND THEN THE OTHER, THE VARIATIONS, UH, TO COMPARE TO SEE HOW, WHETHER THERE IS A FINANCIAL BENEFIT? YES.

SO, UM, WE HAVE DONE IT.

I SAY WE, WE HAVE DONE IT BECAUSE WE WORK WITH SO MANY AGENCIES.

WHAT WE LIKE IS THIRD PARTY PEOPLE TO DO IT.

UH, ONE OF OUR CUSTOMERS, UM, HAD DONE IT AS PART OF HIS MASTER'S RESEARCH AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IT.

UM, HE WAS SHOWING A 30% BENEFIT.

SO, UM, LET'S SAY IF HIS, HIS ROADS WERE COSTING HIM, I KNOW THIS IS A LITTLE LOW TODAY, BUT IF HIS ROADS WERE COSTING HIM $1 TO MAINTAIN A SQUARE YARD OF ASPHALT PER YEAR, IF HE DID NOTHING, THEN DOING THIS WOULD GET IT DOWN TO ABOUT 70 CENTS PER SQUARE YARD PER YEAR.

IT'S, IT'S ADDING A LITTLE BIT OF COST TO THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT'S EXTENDING THE LIFE OF THE ROAD, UH, BY THAT FIVE TO FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.

ARE THOSE STUDIES AVAILABLE? YEAH, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF 'EM AVAILABLE I CAN SEND SOME UP TO BECAUSE I'M MORE, I AM VERY INTERESTED ALWAYS IN THE FINANCIAL MM-HMM .

IMPLICATIONS.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT'S ONE THAT WAS DONE WITH, UM, ACADEMIA OR WHEN HE WAS GETTING HIS MASTER'S.

UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONALS WHO HAVE DONE STUDIES ON THEIR OWN TOO, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF CITIES.

SO I, I CAN SEND THOSE UP.

TRACY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO COME UP IN A SECOND.

I WANT TO CHAT WITH YOU.

I THINK WE'VE DONE TESTS PREVIOUSLY, UH, WITH JUST RECITE AND HAD DONE IT ON BUCK ISLAND AND A NUMBER OF ROADS AND HAD, UH, GOOD SUCCESS WITH THEM.

AND MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WE JUST HAVE A BEAUTIFUL RESEARCH LAB COMPLETED YOU, WHAT YOU JUST DID ON 2 78 AND HOW TITANIUM COULD BE PUT ON IT.

AND I WOULD SUBMIT TO THE, MAYBE THE COMMITTEE'S CONSIDERATION FOR OUR EXPENDITURE MAYBE NEXT YEAR TO BE ABLE TO PUT TITAN TANIUM DIOXIDE ON NEXT SUMMER.

THAT'S GIVES IT ABOUT THE FIRST YEAR DOWN.

AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU, IF YOU WOULD, TO RUN THAT UP YOUR FLAGPOLE AND SEE WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF RESULTS AND WHAT TYPE OF ABSOLUTELY.

I'LL GET WITH THE DC AND, UH, PUT IT FORTH TO HIM AND SEE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I WAS, IT'S, UH, FOUR LANES, FIVE MILES, SO WE CAN GET THE COST DOWN A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT.

SO WE'D LIKE TO, THAT COULD BE A PERFECT ONE TO DO IT ON.

SO YEAH, WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

SO WHAT I'M THINKING IS WITH THE NEW PROJECT WE HAVE COMING OUT THAT IT SHOULD BE LED IN JANUARY, UH, WHICH INVOLVES THAT PART OF, UH, OKEE HIGHWAY MIGHT BE THE IDEAL ONE TO USE IT ON.

SO ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S HIGHLY TRAFFICKED MM-HMM .

UH, RIGHT WHEN YOU GET TO THAT ROUNDABOUT, SO.

YEP.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I DEFINITELY GET WITH, UH, DANIEL LOAN AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

PLEASE DO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

YES SIR.

AND HOPE YOU'RE FEELING BETTER.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

[00:50:01]

WE'RE BACK AGAIN, RUSTY.

[6.D. BLUFFTON PARKWAY PAVING CONTINUATION ]

JUST GETTING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT THE PARKWAYS.

I JUST, WE'RE JUST GOING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT MEAD AND HUNT ARE EVALUATING THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND THE BUCKWALTER PARKWAYS AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE JUST RECEIVED THE GIS INFORMATION FROM BEFORD COUNTY THIS WEEK AND WE SHOULD BE RECEIVING SOMETHING SOON.

UH, GET AN IDEA WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, QUESTIONS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMING UP.

UM, BRIAN, YOU'RE NEXT.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

I ALWAYS HAVE QUESTIONS.

UM, WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THEY EVALUATING ABOUT IN THESE, ON THESE TWO ROADWAYS ABOUT EVERYTHING, CONDITION ROAD, EVERYTHING POTHOLES, UH, OKAY.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS A SORT OF LIMITED, OR IF IT WERE, THEY'RE NOT DOING ONE PART OF IT YET.

WELL, THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME IS TO GET US QUANTITIES AND ESTIMATED COST ON WHAT THE RESURFACING WOULD BE FOR THOSE TWO.

ARE THEY BUILDING THE CLIMATE CHANGE WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH INTO, NOT THE RESURFACING NO.

WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT OUR LAST MEETING.

WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THIS.

WE DID A, A ONE SECTION OF THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY.

AND IF JUST AS A BACKUP TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF, OF THE HISTORY AGAIN OF IT, THE ROAD WAS DESIGNED WITH A LIFESPAN OF SOMETHING LIKE 15 OR 18 YEARS AND WE REACHED BY YEAR EIGHT OR NINE, IT'S ALREADY RUNNING MORE TRAFFIC ON IT THAN WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR.

AND SO WE DID THE FIRST SECTION AND WE LOOKED AT, WITH OUR $5 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IN THE BANK, SO TO SPEAK, OF GOING AHEAD AND CONTINUING THE PAVING OF MILL AND FILL OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY.

EVEN THOUGH THAT'S ON THE, UM, ONCE IN SALES TAX, WE, IT'S WHEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF AND IF WE HAVE THE MONEY TO CONTINUE ON PAVING IT, WE NEED TO BE DOING IT BECAUSE IF YOU DRIVE THE NEXT SECTION OF IT, IT'S HAS AREAS THAT'S FAILING AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE MILLED AND FILLED.

AND THEN WITH THE RATHER WEIRD INCREASE OF WATER, OF RAIN THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING HERE, THAT ADDS TO THE BIG TIME UNDER OUR WEATHER.

BIG TIME UNDER.

[6.E. STATE SECONDARY RATE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS 0/500 AND 500/2000 ADT ]

OKAY.

BRIAN, YOU'RE UP NEXT, BUT THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE.

BEFORE I GET INTO THE STATE SECONDARIES, I WANTED TO JUST MENTION SOMETHING THAT TRACY MENTIONED EARLIER, AND THAT'S THE RE, UH, SIGNALS ON 2 78.

SO A COUPLE YEARS AGO, LATS RECEIVED A CARBON REDUCTION GRANT FROM THE DOT AND THEY ELECTED TO USES THAT FUNDING TO RETIME SIGNAL CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, UM, OR THE LAST AREA.

SO ONE OF THOSE CORRIDORS IS 2 78 AND THE DOT IS MANAGING THIS FOR LAPS, BUT THEY HAVE KICKED OFF THE RETIMING OF THAT CORRIDOR.

UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE SIGNALS FROM MOSS CREEK ALL THE WAY TO THE JASPER COUNTY LINE.

THEY HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, UH, THIS WEEK, UH, DOING THEIR TIMING RUNS AND COUNTS MM-HMM .

SO AFTER THAT, THEY'LL TAKE ALL THAT DATA BACK, START COMING UP WITH THEIR TIMING PLANS.

UM, THEY HOPE TO HAVE THAT IM IMPLEMENTED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, EARLY 2027.

SO, UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE HAVE SOME RELIEF ON 2 78 FOR THAT NEW SIGNAL TIMING.

AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS YET, BUT I DID JUST FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE ALSO, ONE OF THE NEXT CORRIDORS THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY CORRIDOR, AND THEY ARE HOPING TO GET STARTED ON THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.

SO, UM, SOME OF THOSE CORRIDORS ARE GONNA START SEEING NEW SIGNAL TIMINGS, UM, MOVING FORWARD.

SO WITH, UH, THE STATE SECONDARY, SO JUST LIKE, UH, KEN MENTIONED AND RUSTY MENTIONED, WE HAVE FIVE YEAR PLANS.

WE JUST, I THINK IT, ONE OF THE LAST MEETINGS, UH, ICE CAME IN AND PRESENTED ON THE NEW PAVEMENT EVALUATION THAT THEY ARE DOING.

UM, SO OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WITH THE GUIDANCE OF THE CTC AND MR. GORDON, WE HAVE ALSO DONE THOSE FIVE YEAR PLANS FOR S-C-D-O-T SECONDARY ROUTES.

THAT INCLUDES, UH, ONE PLAN FOR LESS THAN 500 A DT ROADS AND ONE PLAN FOR ROADS BETWEEN 500 AND 200 A DT.

SO WE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THOSE FIVE YEAR PLANS ARE ABOUT TO RUN OUT.

UM, FOR OUR ZERO TO 500 ROADS, WE JUST, UM, ARE LOOKING AT YEAR FOUR AND WE'RE HAVE YEAR FIVE IS GONNA GET READY TO COME OUT TO BID AND 500 TO 2000 A DT.

WE ARE BIDDING YEAR THREE NOW.

SO NOW IS THE TIME, UM, TO START LOOKING AT THIS AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD WITH THE NEXT SET OF FIVE YEAR PLANS FOR THOSE DOT SECONDARY ROADS.

UM, FOR THE LAST TWO PAVEMENT EVALUATIONS WE'VE

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DONE, UM, I THINK BOTH OF 'EM WE HAVE LOOKED AT COLLECTING DATA ON DOT ROADS, BUT BOTH TIMES WE HAVE ELECTED NOT TO JUST BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING, UM, PART OF IT AND WE HAVE ELECTED TO USE DATA THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE DOT, UM, WITH THE ONE TIME FUNDING THAT THE CHAIRMAN MENTIONED EARLIER, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY COLLECT THAT ROADWAY DATA FOR THE DOT ROADS AS WELL.

UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE OUR ASK IS THAT WE CAN START LOOKING AT THOSE FIVE YEAR PLANS AGAIN AND START BUILDING THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PLANS FOR THAT CDOT SECONDARY ROADS.

YEAH, I, THE THING THAT, UM, WE NEED TO GET BACK IN, INTO A BETTER SCHEDULE ON, AND THIS ISN'T CRITICISM, IT'S JUST MORE OF A STATEMENT OF, OF OUR COMMITTEE'S NEEDS.

AND WE'RE, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN IN MY, UH, COMMENTS, BUT WE NEED TO BE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE OUR BID WORK IS OUT TYPICALLY IN THE SEPTEMBER TIME SPAN, SO THAT BY JANUARY WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THE STEPS LEADING UP TO, UM, AWARDING THE CONTRACTS AND THEN GIVES THEM THEM FROM JANUARY ONE TO JULY ONE TO GET THE CONTRACT WORK.

WE NEED TO GET BETTER BACK INTO A BETTER SCHEDULE ON HOW THAT'S BEING DONE.

AGREED.

AND OUR GOAL, AND THIS IS PART OF WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE EVALUATIONS, WE'RE ASKING 'EM TO PULL TOGETHER BID QUANTITIES FOR MULTIPLE YEARS IS SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO GET IT OUT TO BID PROBABLY IN JULY.

THAT WAY AS SOON AS THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS, WE CAN AWARD AND THEN THEY CAN HAVE A WHOLE YEAR TO DO IT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW MONTHS AND THEN WE'RE UP AGAINST WEATHER.

SO THAT'S, UM, DEFINITELY THE GOAL.

I THINK WE DO NEED TO GET BACK THERE.

SO I 100% WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THAT QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

LET'S GO OFF, UH, SCRIPT ONE MORE TIME.

UM, I THINK CHAD AND JARED AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE SAID, BUT, UM, SINCE I STARTED WITH WORKING, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CTC, IT WAS 2017, SO NINE YEARS NOW WORKING WITH MR. GORDON, UM, ON THE PAVEMENT PRESERVATION AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.

IT'S CRAZY TO SAY, BUT JUST SOME NUMBERS ON THAT.

UM, BETWEEN THE DOT AND, UH, COUNTY ROADS IN THE LAST, GOING BACK TO 2016, WE'VE TREATED 269 MILES OF ROADWAYS.

THAT'S CRAZY.

UM, JUST COUNTY ROADS ALONE, WE, AND SINCE 2018 WE'VE TREATED ALMOST A HUNDRED, THAT'S ALMOST HALF OF OUR NETWORK IN EIGHT YEARS.

OUR PCI ON OUR ROADS IS NOW 83 OUT OF A HUNDRED.

SO JUST THROUGH THE GUIDANCE OF MR. GORDON, THE CTC OVER, LIKE AS MENTIONED, THIS IS NOW OUR THIRD EVALUATION.

TO SEE THAT MUCH GET DONE OVER THE, THAT TIMEFRAME IS GREAT.

AND IT'S REALLY, UH, I'VE ENJOYED BEING A PART OF IT.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.

I

[6.F. POTENTIAL ROUTES FOR CHIP SEAL ]

BROUGHT UP, UM, THE LAST ITEM I HAVE ON THE LIST HERE, HERE WE GO.

RUSTY AND I HAD A CONVERSATION RECENTLY ABOUT, UM, SOME ROADS AND MIKE WAS THE, UH, KIND ENOUGH TO, UM, WORK WITH, UH, BRIAN ON IT AND COME UP WITH, UM, A SERIES OF ROADS THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US, UM, BY THE END OF THE YEAR PUT TOGETHER A BID TO DO.

AND AS YOU THAT'S, THAT WORDING IS WRONG.

I'M S SORRY, IT'S NOT, UM, CHIP SEAL, IT'S SCRUB SEAL AND THEY INCLUDE, AND MOST OF THESE ARE IN DISTRICT ONE, SO THAT'LL MAKE YOU SMILE.

CHARLES CLAIRE CLARENCE, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, BULL CORNER ROAD, ENOCH NORRIS ROAD, JACOB WHITE ROAD, BIG ESTATE CIRCLE.

AND WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT SHANKLIN AND MLK OUT ON SAINT HELENA.

SO THAT NEEDS TO BE, I'M, THAT'S CURRENTLY NEW BUSINESS FOR US.

UM, BY THE NEXT MEETING, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT ALONG AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET SOME, UM, SCRUB SEAL NUMBERS PUT TOGETHER AND GET IT SO THAT WE CAN MAYBE GET IT, THE CONTRACT APPROVED THEN BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

OKAY.

[01:00:06]

I DON'T HAVE A TREASURE

[7. TREASURER’S REPORT ]

HERE WITH US TODAY, BUT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET THE NUMBERS THAT, UH, AND THERE WE GO.

IT SHOWS ROUGHLY, UH, WE'RE RECEIVING SOMEWHERE AROUND 13 MILLION, ALMOST 13 AND A HALF MILLION.

AND WE HAVE COMMITMENTS FOR NINE AND A HALF.

SO THAT FOUR TO $5 MILLION COMMITMENT WE STILL HAVE IN OUR BANK.

AND THAT'S THE NUMBERS THAT I'VE, WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT WE NEED TO RATHER HAVING IT IN THE BANK.

JUST AS A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY, THE REQUIREMENT STATES THAT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE THAN 300% OF OUR ANNUAL AMOUNT.

SO IF YOU TAKE $2.5 MILLION, 300% WOULD MEAN SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION.

IT WE ARE SEALING THAT WE COULD HOLD IN OUR CHECKING ACCOUNT, SO TO SPEAK.

SO WE'RE IN, IN GOOD FORM AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, MOVE ALONG WITH TAKING CARE OF SOME OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY AS WELL AS THE SCRUB SEAL ONES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, YOU ASKED, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US.

YOU'RE ON HELLO COMMITTEE, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME AT YOUR MEETING.

UM, I REALIZE I'M PROBABLY STANDING IN WRONG IN FRONT OF THE WRONG COMMITTEE, BUT HERE I AM.

UM, I'M ALLISON KINAL.

I'M A 30 YEAR RESIDENT HERE AT BEAUFORT COUNTY.

UM, AND I RECENTLY, UH, DECIDED TO RUN OVER THE RUSSELL BELL BRIDGE AND I DID NOT REALIZE HOW UNSAFE IT WAS FOR PEDESTRIANS.

UM, AND WHILE RUNNING OVER THE BRIDGE IS FINE AND DANDY, UM, I HAVE A BROTHER WITH AUTISM AND THIS IS HIS ROUTE TO WORK.

UM, AND IT'S A MAJOR THROUGH FAIR FOUR PEDESTRIANS TO GET FROM ONE PART OF FORT ROYAL TO THE NEXT.

UM, I RELY, UM, I REALIZED THAT THIS WASN'T A PART OF THE 2018 PENNY TAX, WHICH I THOUGHT IT WAS.

UM, WHEN I VOTED ON IT, I THINK THE WORDING ON IT WAS A LITTLE BIT IFFY IN MY OPINION.

UM, AND THAT BEING SAID, I REALIZED THAT IT IS A PART OF THE LONG-TERM PLAN, UH, FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC THROUGH BEFOR COUNTY.

UM, I'M HERE FOR WISDOM AND DIRECTION OF ANYBODY WHO MIGHT HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE TO START AND, UH, WHAT WE SHOULD DO.

BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE.

ANY CONNECTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE, I'M GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING BEFORE US.

AND YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IS VERY MUCH LIMITED WHERE THEIR DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT.

YES, SIR.

AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT FOR LOCAL PAVING OR IMPROVING COUNTY ROADS FOR STREET AND TRAFFIC SIGNS AND FOR OTHER ROAD AND BRIDGE PROJECTS.

SO WE ARE GOVERNED AND HELD BY VERY STRONGLY WITH THAT.

BUT KNOWING THAT YOU WERE COMING, CHAD AND I HAD A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY AND CHAD AND I TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE SOME FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH DOT THAT MIGHT BE OF BENEFIT TO YOUR THOUGHTS.

SO WHAT I WOULD SIMPLY ASK YOU TO DO IS VISIT WITH, UH, CHAD FOR A MINUTE AFTER THIS IS OVER, AND GET, HAVE BRIAN SIT IN WITH THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL SO THAT, UH, YOU CAN PUT THE TWO HEADS TOGETHER ALONG WITH THEM AND MAYBE THERE'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS.

THERE HAS TO BE AN IDENTITY ORGANIZATION THAT HAS TO SPONSOR.

SO IF IT'S A TOWN OF PORT ROYAL OR WHOEVER, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET THEIR THEIR COUNCIL ON BOARD WITH YOU.

YES, SIR.

I HAVE THAT SOUNDS GREAT TO, TO GET THEM YEP.

TO PARTNER WITH YOU.

OKAY.

RATHER THAN YOU CARRYING THE BANK, THE LOAD, LET THEM CARRY THE LOAD FOR YOU AND LET LET THE TOWN DO THE WORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR THE TOWN, THE ADMINISTRATOR.

SO YES SIR.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD POINT YOU.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN'S

[9. CHAIRMAN COMMENTS ]

COMMENTS.

Y'ALL HAVE BEEN AMAZING.

I CAN THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT IN, IN SERVING THIS, THIS COMMITTEE THROUGH THE 11, 12 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN CHAIRMAN IT.

UH, WHEN I TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT FACES, WE HAVE ALL NEW FACES THAT I'M THE LAST OF THE

[01:05:01]

2016 REORGANIZATION THAT TOOK PLACE IN THAT, THAT PERIOD OF TIME, MY WIFE ASKED ME, UH, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS? AND I SAID, WELL, I GOT A BIT OF A HEAVY, HEAVY HEART, BUT, UM, MY, UH, THOUGHTS, I DIDN'T, UH, EVER PLAN ON RUNNING FOR PUBLIC OFFICE.

NEVER DREAMED IT UP.

I WOULD EVER PURSUE THAT.

BUT THERE'S A PART OF ME INSIDE THAT, UM, THIS OLD HORSE STILL HAS SOME MOUTHS THAT HE HAS TO TROD.

AND I'M GONNA DO MY BEST AT BEING A GOOD HORSE AND LOOKING AFTER THE COUNTY THE BEST I CAN.

I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH, UH, FOR THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN.

THANKS SO MUCH.

I'M DONE.