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          SIR. 
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I MEAN, FATHER, AS WE ASSEMBLE OURSELVES HERE THIS EVENING, WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR DIRECTION. 
          WE ASK YOUR FATHERS TO GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND KNOWLEDGE AND THE WISDOM TO DIRECT THIS COUNTY IN THE DIRECTION THAT IT NEED TO BE GOING IN. 
          FATHER, REALIZE THAT THIS IS YOUR WORLD AND WE ARE JUST HERE TO TRY TO DO OUR BEST. 
          FATHER. 
          WE ASK THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THE PEOPLE AND THE CONSIDERATION OF THE PEOPLE. 
          HELP US, FATHER, TO BE WHAT WE ARE, TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THESE ARE BLESSED JACKSON. 
          NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, WE PRAY. 
          AMEN. 
          AMEN. 
          THANK YOU MR. GLAZE. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING IS THE REVIEW OF MINUTES OF OUR MAY 10 MEETING. 
          IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVE, MR. GENERALS MOVES. 
          SECOND, MR. LADSON. 
          SECOND. 
          ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION, CLARIFICATION, OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING OF PANTS. 
          THAT IS UNANIMOUS. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION TONIGHT, MR. BOB PETERSON, IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME AT THE PODIUM, SIR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          VERY WELL. 
          UH, WHEREAS BUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THAT HUNGER IS A DEBILITATING CONDITION AFFECTING ALL PARTS OF PEOPLE'S LIVES. 
          AND WHEREAS BUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL WITH KNOWLEDGES, THE HUNGER OF THE PROBLEM, WHICH DOES EXIST IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, IMPACTING THE PEACE AND SECURITY OF COUNTY RESIDENTS. 
          AND WHEREAS JUNE 3RD, 2004 IS NATIONAL HUNGER AWARENESS DAY. 
          AND WHEREAS JUNE 5TH, 2004 IS HUNGER WORLD HUNGER RELIEF DAY. 
          AND WHEREAS THERE ARE CURRENTLY CITIZENS OF DIFFERENT COUNTY WHO ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TOWARD THE ERADICATION OF THE HUNGER, WHICH SO PROFOUNDLY AFFECTS FELLOW CITIZENS' LIVES AND THAT ORGANIZATION'S FUNCTION. 
          AND WHEREAS THREE ORGANIZATIONS IN BUFORT COUNTY ARE ONLY ABLE TO SUCCEED THROUGH THE HARD WORK OF THEIR VOLUNTEERS AND EMPLOYEES. 
          WHEREAS BUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL ACKNOWLEDGES THEIR CONTRIBUTION AND RECOGNIZES VOLUNTEERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS. 
          SECOND, HELPINGS COLLECT PERISHABLE FOOD AND DELIVERS IT TO 65 OTHER CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS IN BEFORD AND JACKSON COUNTY. 
          DEEP WELL PROVIDES FOOD AND OTHER BASIC NEED, WHICH INCLUDES ASSISTANCE WITH UTILITIES, RENTS, MEDICINES, FURNITURE, AND HOME REPAIRS AND MEALS ON WHEEL OPERATES. 
          ITS INDIVIDUAL DELIVERY OF FOOD TO SHUT INS OR OTHERS IN NEED BY ITS MANY VOLUNTEER DRIVERS. 
          NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT JURAT COUNTY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 3RD, 2004 AS NATIONAL HUNGER AWARENESS TODAY AND JUNE 5TH, 2004 AS HUNGER PETERSON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU DO, MR. SECOND HELP. 
          THANK YOU, SIR, AND WE LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE ATTENTION AND THE HELP THAT WE GET FROM ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          OUR 200 VOLUNTEERS IN OUR GROUP ALONE ARE WORKING AT LEAST TWO DAYS A MONTH FOR EIGHT HOURS A DAY. 
          AND LAST YEAR WE ACCUMULATED 11,000 ITEMS OF, UH, 11,000 HOURS OF VOLUNTEER TIME IN SUPPORTING THE HUNGRY IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AND THIS FURTHER RECOGNITION IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO BOTH OURSELVES, TO DEEP WELL AND TO MEALS ON WHEELS. 
          AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE FIRST OF TWO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT SESSIONS THAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, LET, UH, REMIND YOU BRIEFLY OF OUR COUNCIL RULES, UH, LIMIT THE SPEAKER'S OPPORTUNITY TO THREE MINUTES. 
          UH, MR. ICK WILL SOUND THE TONE AS WE APPROACH THE END OF THREE MINUTES, AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU WRAP IT UP, UH, VERY QUICKLY. 
          WE DON'T LIKE TO STOP ANYBODY OR CUT 'EM OFF. 
          SO WE WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE, UH, BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME LIMITATIONS. 
          ADDITIONALLY, PLEASE, UH, BE RESPECTFUL NOT ONLY OF THIS BODY, THE AUDIENCE THAT'S HERE, UH, IN PERSON, BUT ALSO THE TELEVISION AUDIENCE. 
          AND REMEMBER THAT OUR COUNCIL RULES DO PROHIBIT, UH, INDIVIDUALIZING YOUR COMMENTS AND DIRECTING COMMENTS AT INDIVIDUALS OR PARTICULAR PERSONALITIES. 
          WITH THAT, I WILL CALL THE REQUEST IN THE ORDER IN WHICH I HAVE RECEIVED THEM. 
          MR. CLIFTON. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, I'M THE SCRIPT FROM BE BEFORE SEARCH AND RESCUE. 
          WE RESCUE SQUADRON HERE. 
          UH, I STOOD BEFORE YOU GUYS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, MR. BOND, HAR ASKED YOU EVER, 
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UH, HOW MANY LIVES WE SAVED LAST YEAR. 
          AND I DIDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE KIND OF A LOADED QUESTION. 
          I TOLD YOU WE DIDN'T LOSE ANY. 
          UH, SATURDAY A WEEK AGO, WE LOST A MAN'S BOAT AND I SAY WE LOST IT BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD'VE SAVED A MAN'S BOAT. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT A SHRIMP BOAT. 
          MAN'S, UH, ONLY WAY HE MADE A LIVING. 
          WE WERE CALLED OUT ON A FRIDAY NIGHT ABOUT SIX 30. 
          WE STAYED WITH THE MAN UNTIL ABOUT ONE 30 IN THE MORNING. 
          WE GOT HIS, UH, HIS LEAK SECURED. 
          WE, UH, PUMPED HIM OUT AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD IT TAKEN CARE OF. 
          WE LEFT ABOUT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. 
          WE'LL CALL BACK AT SIX 30 ON SATURDAY MORNING BY COAST GUARD, THE MAN THAT SPRUNG LEAK AND WAS TAKING ON WATER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CENTRAL AREA TO KEEP OUR EQUIPMENT WHERE WE HAVE TO KEEP THINGS SCATTERED IN SEVERAL PLACES. 
          A LOT OF TIMES MY GUYS DON'T KNOW WHERE WOOD IS AND CAN'T GET TO IT IN TIME. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN THERE 30 MINUTES SOONER. 
          WE COULD HAVE KEPT THE WATER OUT OF HIS ENGINES, BUT 'CAUSE WE WEREN'T TO WATER HIS ENGINES AND HE LOST HIS ENGINES, UH, I'VE ASKED YOU BEFORE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF US GETTING A DR BUILDING IS PERFECT. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN VACANT SINCE NOVEMBER. 
          YOU CAN ALREADY SEE SIGNS OF DETERIORATION, VANDALISM, UH, MISUSE, UH, THE BUILDING'S JUST NOT BEING USED SO IT'S NOT BEING TAKEN CARE OF. 
          I HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITH MY SQUADRON WHO ARE CRAFTSMEN AS FAR AS, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, UH, CARPENTERS, ELECTRICIANS. 
          I THINK WE KNOW THAT BUILDING NEEDS SOME WORK AND I THINK WE CAN BRING IT UP TO SPEED FOR YOU IF YOU JUST GIVE US A CHANCE TO DO IT. 
          UM, WE'D LIKE TO, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF THAT BUILDING. 
          WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT SOMETHING WE CAN USE IF YOU DON'T MIND SHARING IT WITH SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS AS FAR AS LETTING US UTILIZE THAT BILL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MR. CLIFF. 
          PASTOR JENKINS, NORMAN JENKINS. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          AND TO ALL OF THE COUNCILS THAT ARE HERE TODAY. 
          UH, MY CONCERN TODAY IS, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL OUT IN THE DELL COMMUNITY, UH, IT IS APPEARS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD COUNCIL HAS GIVEN THE DATA AFFIRMING THAT THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS OF STUDENTS TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL. 
          I QUESTIONED ONE OF THE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, PRIOR TO HEARING THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT THEY, THIS BOARD WAS ASKING WHY NOT GIVE THEM THE DATA THAT THEY NEEDED. 
          I GOT A A REPLY THAT, WELL, ONCE WE GIVE THEM THE DATA, YOU'LL FIND OUT THAT THEY'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE. 
          TO MY SURPRISE, THEY WERE RIGHT. 
          I QUOTE FROM THE, UH, BE GAZETTE SUNDAY, MAY 23RD, UH, PAPER. 
          RICHARD TISCHLER COMMENT SAID, WE CAN JUSTIFY BILLING THE SCHOOL, BUT JUST BECAUSE WE CAN JUSTIFY BILLING IT AND WE JUSTIFY THE EXPENSE OF RUNNING THAT NEW SCOOT, THAT NEW BILLING, BOY, THEY WERE RIGHT IN TODAY'S BUDGET. 
          WELL, THE BUDGET FOR THIS FACIAL YEAR HAS REALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT SCHOOL. 
          IT WAS A BOND REFERENDUM THAT PASSED TO, UH, TO, TO HAVE THE FUNDS THERE TO BUILD THAT SCHOOL. 
          SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING ELSE THERE TRYING TO PUT IN PLACE TO STOP BUILDING THE SCHOOL. 
          UH, I HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD REALLY, UH, REMEMBER THE MEETING THAT YOU HAD IN THAT AREA. 
          UH, MANY OF YOU FROM THE BOARD CAME OUT AND HEARD THE COMMENTS OF THE CITIZENS OF THAT MEETING, AND WE GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SAYING WHY THEY WANT TO DO THAT TO THOSE POOR PEOPLE DOWN THERE. 
          WHAT IT APPEARS TO ME, THAT SEEMS LIKE YOU WANT TO KEEP THEM POOR. 
          AND THAT'S MY COMMENT TODAY. 
          THANK YOU PASTOR JENKINS. 
          UH, ROWAN HILL. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          COUNTY MEMBERS. 
          APPROXIMATELY FOUR YEARS AGO, BEAUFORT COUNTY PASSED A $120 MILLION BOND REFERENDUM FROM WHICH CAME TO NAME A FEW BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL, $28 MILLION, OKT ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS A 70,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY FOR 550 STUDENTS, OVER 10 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. 
          HILTON HAD HIGH SCHOOL, VARIOUS ADDITIONS, RENOVATIONS, INCLUDING A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER OVER $15 MILLION. 
          WHERE WAS THE PUBLIC OUTCRY? NOW IT'S NORTHERN BUFORD'S. 
          TURN TO FINALLY GET A PIECE OF THE PIE. 
          NOT A DIFFERENT PIE, NOT A NEW PIE, BUT THE SAME $120 MILLION PIE. 
          CONSEQUENTLY, THE GOVERNOR, THE MAYOR, CERTAIN COUNTY COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND OPPOSITION TO THE NEW AREA, NORTH AREA HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SOME COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE PRESENT AT VARIOUS COMMUNITY 
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MEETINGS HELD IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT, WHERE YOU WITNESSED OVERWHELMING COMMUNITY SUPPORT, BLACK AND WHITE FOR THE NEW NORTH AREA HIGH SCHOOL. 
          MAYBE IF THE GOVERNOR WEREN'T SO BUSY CAMPAIGNING FOR CERTAIN SUPPOSEDLY NONPARTISAN SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATES, HE COULD HAVE ATTENDED ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS AND SEEN FOR HIMSELF. 
          INSTEAD OF YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS OPPOSING THE VERY CITIZENRY WHO ELECTED YOU TO REPRESENT US, YOU SHOULD DIRECT THAT ENERGY AND THOSE ATTACKS TO THE STATE AND PUT PRESSURE ON THEM TO SUPPLY THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF FUNDING PER PUPIL AS MANDATED BY LAW BEFORE IT GETS DIVERTED TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND INSTITUTIONS. 
          NOT TOO TERRIBLY LONG AGO, THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND SCHOOL BOARD WERE AT, WERE AT EACH OTHER'S THROATS. 
          NOW. 
          SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS ARE HAVING CLANDESTINE MEETINGS WITH COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE NICODEMUS AND JESUS. 
          AND IF I MAY DIGRESS NOW, COUNTY COUNCIL, ALONG WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY'S REIGNING MONARCHY, THE SOUTH CAROLINA COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE, A MAJOR LOBBYIST AND OTHERS WANT TO SELL US THAT 1% SALES TAX THING. 
          AGAIN, WHAT'S THIS FOR NOW? SO HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS CAN HAVE VALET PARKING. 
          FURTHERMORE, IT'S COMFORTING TO SEE THE RIVER BEND COMMUNITY WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. 
          SO MOTORISTS ON HIGHWAY 2 78 WILL HALT FOR THEM AS THEY COME AND GO IN THEIR LITTLE GOLF CARTS, AS I WITNESSED A FEW WEEKS AGO. 
          IRONICALLY, HOWEVER, IN NORTHERN BEAUFORT, THE WASTELANDS IN PARTICULAR, THE INTERSECTION AT HIGHWAY 17 AND 21 IN GARDENS CORNER, IT'S APPARENTLY GONNA TAKE AN ACT OF CONGRESS JUST TO GET A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE. 
          HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED? ULTIMATELY, WHY IN GOD'S NAME WOULD ANYONE OPPOSE SOMETHING AS NOBLE AND EMPOWERING AS A SCHOOL? AND WHY DOES A SCHOOL HAVE TO BE OVERCROWDED TO JUSTIFY ITS EXISTENCE? LET'S BE CLEAR. 
          WE DON'T WORK FOR YOU. 
          YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WORK FOR US, ALL OF US, NOT JUST THOSE FROM THE LARGEST TAX BASE OR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THE GOVERNOR'S EAR OR FOR THOSE LOBBYISTS OR SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS, BUT ALL OF US, ESPECIALLY THE VOICELESS, OUR CHILDREN. 
          FINALLY, IF YOU DID NOT INTEND TO BUILD A NEW NORTH AREA HIGH SCHOOL, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN OUR NORTH AREA TAX MONEY TO FUND ALL THOSE OTHER REFERENDUM PROJECTS. 
          IF YOU PASS A LAW, YOU MUST FOLLOW IT TOO. 
          AS CITIZENS, WE'RE NOT GONNA LIKE EVERY LAW YOU PASS, BUT IF IT'S THE LAW, WE MUST ABIDE BY IT. 
          BY THE SAME TOKEN, THE REFERENDUM PASSED, YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT YOU MUST SUPPORT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HILL. 
          GERALD DAWSON, MR. CHAIRMAN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          IN REFERENCE TO THE NORTH AREA HIGH SCHOOL, LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TRANSPIRED AS THE PROPOSITION WAS MADE TO, UH, CONSTRUCT, CONSTRUCT THE SCHOOL IN THE DELL COMMUNITY. 
          THE FIRST IS ISSUE THAT CAME TO HAND WAS THE BIG FIGHT OVER THE, THE SITE, THE PROPOSED SITE. 
          MANY PEOPLE CAME FORWARD SAYING THEY SUPPORT THE SEABROOK SITE, YET THE SCHOOL BOARD PROPOSED, UH, UH, HIGHWAY 21 AND KING'S NECK SITE. 
          AND SO WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT, UH, THE KING'S NECK AND HIGHWAY 21 SITE WAS GOING TO BE THE, THE SITE FOR THE BUILDING OF THE SCHOOL, THEN CAME A LETTER FROM TONY CRYSTAL TAYLOR SAYING THAT THE SITE OF HIGHWAY 21 AND KINGS NECK WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THEN AFTER ALL THAT, THE PROPOSAL THEN BY THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS, OKAY, WE'LL MOVE THE SCHOOL INTO THE DALE CP DISTRICT. 
          THEN CAME THE LITERATURE THAT HIGH SCHOOLS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED IN THE DAY. 
          L CP SINGLING OUT THE DAY L CCP, YET IT WAS PERMITTED IN OTHER CPS. 
          SO AS WE GO FORTH, WE SEE ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE TRANSPIRING ALL IN AN ATTEMPT TO STOP THE BUILDING OF, OF THIS SCHOOL THAT WAS RETRACTED AND IT WAS CITED AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ERROR. 
          OKAY? AND SO AS PASTOR JENKIN HAS ALLUDED, EVERY TIME ONE THING IS ONE QUESTION IS ANSWERED OR SOMETHING IS SETTLED, THEN SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP. 
          SO NOW WHERE WE'RE FACED WITH THE DEMOGRAPHY, THE QUESTION WAS THAT THERE AREN'T GONNA BE ENOUGH STUDENTS TO FILL THIS BIG OLD HIGH SCHOOL, THIS $28 MILLION HIGH SCHOOL BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT IN THIS POOR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO YOU, YOU GOT THE INFORMATION JUST THIS WEEK THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 669 TO 836 STUDENTS POSSIBLY WHEN THAT SCHOOL OPENS. 
          SO THAT SHOULD SATISFY YOUR DEMOGRAPHY QUESTION THEN CAME THE THREAT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FILE A LAWSUIT. 
          WELL, 
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ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE DONE, AND I DIDN'T MENTION EVERYTHING, BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE DONE ALL IN ATTEMPT TO STOP THE SCHOOL BOARD FROM BUILDING THAT SCHOOL IN THE DALE COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO I SAY TO YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE TO WHERE A LAWSUIT IS GOING, GOING TO HAVE TO BE FILED IN ORDER TO STOP THE BILLING OF THAT SCHOOL, I SAY TO YOU, GO AHEAD, BUT LET IT BE KNOWN THIS DAY THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE CAPABLE OF FILING A LAWSUIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. DAWSON. 
          UH, PASTOR MOORE, JAMES MOORE. 
          MR. GENERAL, I UNDERSTAND YOU WISH TO SAY SOMETHING. 
          WE'RE GONNA LET THESE FOLKS GET THROUGH 'CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA TURN IT INTO THE BASE BASEMENT. 
          I'LL CALL MM-HMM . 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL I TO COME TO YOU ON THE ISSUE OF THE SCHOOL, THE NORTH AREA SCHOOL. 
          I WANT TO NECESSARILY, UH, REPEAT THE THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID. 
          YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LE LETTER BY THE SECRETARY AND THAT LETTER DETAILS TO YOU, UH, THE THOUGHTS OF THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMUNITY. 
          WHAT I DO WANT TO DO IS I SIMPLY WANT TO REITERATE, UH, TO YOU THAT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED, UH, TO THE SUPPORT AND THE BUILDING OF THAT SCHOOL. 
          YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN SEVERAL, AND MANY OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN CONVERSATIONS PERTAINING TO THE SCHOOL AND ALL OF THE STUMBLING BLOCKS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED IN BUILDING THAT SCHOOL. 
          THE FIRST THING THEY STARTED OUT WITH WAS THAT IT WOULD, IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND IT WOULD CAUSE A POPULATION EXPLOSION THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE. 
          THE NEXT THING WAS THAT IT IS A VIOLATION OF THE COMP PLAN. 
          YOU HAVE SEEN OVER AND OVER INFORMATION THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE COMP PLAN THAT PREVENT THE BUILDING OF A SCHOOL OUT IN THE AREA WHERE THE SCHOOL PROPOSED TO BUILD. 
          IT THEN COMES THE CONSERVATION COAST TO CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND OTHER, UH, POLITICAL ENTITIES STARTING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN THIS STATE WHERE THIS ALL REALLY DOES COME FROM. 
          WHO REALLY REPEATEDLY, EVERY TIME SOMETHING IS TAKEN CARE OF, SOMETHING ELSE COME UP. 
          THERE IS AN ACTIVE, UH, EFFORT AND HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED THAT IF THEY DON'T GET THE ANSWERS THEY WANT, THEN THEY'LL JUST APPEAL AND THEY'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE. 
          I SAY TO YOU IN THE CALMEST WAY THAT I CAN, I BEG YOU FOR THE SAKE OF THIS COUNTY, DON'T ALLOW SPECIAL RIES PEOPLE TO CAUSE YOU NOT TO DO WHAT IS TRULY AND JUSTLY RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON WHATSOEVER. 
          WE KNOW IT. 
          AND MOST OF YOU NOW KNOW IT, THAT THAT SCHOOL SHOULD NOT BE BUILT IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO. 
          AND IM NOT THREATENING YOU, BUT THE DECISION HAS ALREADY MADE, BEEN MADE THAT WE TOO WILL BRING A LAWSUIT BECAUSE THIS MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. 
          I SPOKE TO ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNTY, UH, OF THIS COUNCIL OF WHOM I VERY MUCH RESPECT ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS AGO, AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE MAKING THIS LOOK LIKE A RACIAL ISSUE. 
          AND I SAID TO HIM, NO, IT SO HAPPENED THAT THAT IS THE AREA THAT HAS THE GREATEST NUMBER OF MINORITIES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          SO WHY IS IT THAT WE ARE PICKING ON AND WITHHOLDING THAT SCHOOL FROM THAT AREA WHEN WE DON'T DO IT FROM ANYONE ELSE? I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME THAT EXTRA 15 SECONDS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU REVEREND. 
          UH, PASTOR MOORE, UH, MR. GENERALS, YOU SENT ME A NOTE THAT YOU WANTED TO, UH, UH, MAKE A COMMENT, UH, IN RESPONSE. 
          THANKS WESTON. 
          UH, TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS. 
          UH, THERE HAS BEEN SOME ATTEMPT TO, UH, CHARACTERIZE OUR DISCUSSION OF THE SCHOOL AS BEING LINKED TO DISCUSSIONS ON THE BOARD OF EDUCATION'S BUDGET. 
          AND, UH, AS WILL BE PRESENTED SHORTLY HERE, UH, I WANNA MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO LINKAGE DIRECTLY AT ALL TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND ANY LOOK AT THE SCHOOL, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO REMEMBER THAT 
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MEETING, MR. UH, MOORE, I THINK YOU, REVEREND MOORE, I THINK YOU REMEMBER THE MEETING THAT MOST OF US WERE AT AT THE SCHOOL, AND IT HAS BEEN CHARACTERIZED THAT, UH, I STOOD THERE AND SAID THAT I WAS IN FACT IN FAVOR OF THE SCHOOL. 
          WHAT I SAID WAS, AND I THINK MOST OF THIS COUNCIL AGREED BECAUSE THE VOTE WENT THROUGH, THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING WAS AN ISSUE THAT WE NOT NEEDED TO DEALT WITH IN AN APPROPRIATE AND CONSISTENT MANNER. 
          THAT WE ALLOWED SCHOOLS IN COMMUNITY PRESERVATION DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          WE NEEDED TO DO THE SAME THING IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, BUT THAT THE SCHOOL NEEDED TO MEET THE TEST AS IT RELATED TO POPULATION. 
          AND YES, AS THE FOLKS HAVE COME FORWARD AND TALKED TO US ABOUT NEW SCHOOLS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS, WE HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN POPULATION. 
          DO WE ANTICIPATE THE EXPLOSION, AS YOU SAID, IN POPULATION NORTH OF THE WHALE BRANCH? ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM. 
          AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THE PUBLIC LOOKS AT US, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU LOOK AT US IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET INCLUDES COSTS THAT THIS COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO BEAR FOR THE OPENING OF A BRAND NEW SCHOOL IN BLUFFTON. 
          WE WILL HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING FOR THE NORTH AREA HIGH SCHOOL IF AND WHEN IT'S BUILT AND IF IT'S BUILT AND IT WILL NOT ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST, THEN WE'LL HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY WHICH THE TAXPAYERS WILL END UP PAYING FOR, FOR A RESULT THAT DOESN'T EXIST. 
          IT'S RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT DISCUSSION WILL END UP COSTING TAXPAYERS, AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE SCHOOL IS BEING REVIEWED TO ANY DEGREE FROM THIS COUNCIL, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          IT'S STRICTLY A COST ISSUE. 
          AND I WANT TO MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR, UH, AGAIN, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE ARE NOT RELATED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, MANNER, OR FORM OTHER THAN, AS WE LOOK AT IT GOING FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU WEST. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GENERAL. 
          OKAY, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WITHOUT OBJECTION. 
          UM, AND AFTER DISCUSSION WITH MR S, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 17, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED OH 4 0 5 SCHOOL DISTRICT BUDGET. 
          UH, TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UH, MR. GAITHER AND CHAIRMAN CAMPBELL AND OTHERS FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ARE HERE AND THERE'S NO POINT IN THEM WAITING UNTIL SOME POINT LATER IN THE EVENING WHEN WE GET TO ITEM 17. 
          SO UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION, UH, MR. CAMPBELL OR MR. STERN, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MOVING THE AGENDA ITEM UP. 
          MY NAME IS AL STERN, I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION, AND TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO PRESENT TO YOU AND THE VIEWING PUBLIC AND THOSE PRESENT THE FISCAL YEAR 2005 SCHOOL DISTRICT BUDGET. 
          FIRST, I'D LIKE TO GIVE A VERY QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR STUDENTS. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE 26 SCHOOLS, FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS. 
          THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE. 
          ON AUGUST 9TH, BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL WILL OFFICIALLY OPEN AND THEN WE'LL HAVE FOUR HIGH SCHOOLS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SIX MIDDLE SCHOOLS, 16 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE GOING FROM JUST UNDER 18,000 STUDENTS THIS YEAR TO OVER 18,000 STUDENTS NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THE MIX OF OUR STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS IS 46% WHITE, 41% AFRICAN AMERICAN, 12% HISPANIC, AND 1% OTHER ARE OUR ENROLLMENT INFORMATION FROM FISCAL 2001 THROUGH FISCAL 2005 IS AS SHOWN AS YOU CAN SEE. 
          WE'VE HAD GROWTH EVERY SINGLE YEAR, FAIRLY STEADY, UH, RATE OF GROWTH AND OUR NUMBER OF SCHOOLS HAVE INCREASED FROM 23 TO 26 TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH. 
          THE OVERVIEW OF OUR DISTRICT EMPLOYEES, THERE ARE 2,750 OF THESE 49% ARE TEACHERS AND 6% ARE TEACHER SUBSTITUTES. 
          SO APPROXIMATELY 55% ARE TEACHERS, PLUS 41% ARE CLASSIFIED, AND A LARGE PART OF THOSE CLASSIFIED ARE TEACHER ASSISTANTS. 
          IN ADDITION, FOOD SERVICE WORKERS AND BUS DRIVERS ARE IN THAT NUMBER. 
          SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS PRINCIPALS AND ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS, COMPRISES 3% OF OUR PERSONNEL. 
          AND THE DISTRICT ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE IS 1%. 
          OUR GENERAL FUND OPERATIONS, 15% IS DIRECTLY INSTRUCTION. 
          AND ADDITIONAL 9% IS PUPIL SERVICES. 
          THAT INCLUDES STUDENT SERVICES, OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS, INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF SERVICES, WHICH IS OUR CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION STAFF IS 5%. 
          SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, AGAIN, PRINCIPALS, ASSISTANT PRINCIPALS, ET CETERA. 
          8%, 14% FOR MAINTENANCE, 3% FOR TRANSPORTATION. 
          AND THE CENTRAL OFFICE 
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MAKES UP 4% OF OUR BUDGET. 
          OUR LOCAL REVENUE, UH, FOR FISCAL 2004 AS SHOWN WAS $94.6 MILLION. 
          OUR FISCAL 2005 BUDGET FOR LOCAL TAXES IS A HUNDRED 0.579 MILLION PLUS 300,000 IN OTHER LOCAL REVENUE, WHICH IS, UH, INTEREST FOR A TOTAL OF 108 HUNDRED 79, 731. 
          THAT INCLUDES THE LOCAL MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT, BUDGET PLUS THE REQUIRED, OR EXCUSE ME, THE REQUESTED FUNDS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TO MAKE UP FOR THE STATE REDUCTION IN EFA FUNDING. 
          AS YOU'LL SEE, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 1.9 MILLION. 
          STATE REVENUE, UH, HAS DECREASED OVERALL, AS I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH IT. 
          UH, WE USED TO HAVE FUNDING FOR AN ATTENDANCE CLERK, WHICH THE STATE HAS TAKEN AWAY AND MOVED INTO THE, UH, PER STUDENT ALLOCATION. 
          THAT'S A LOSS OF 11,500 FRINGE BENEFITS. 
          DUE TO THE EFA FORMULA, WE'VE LOST 801,000. 
          THE EFA FORMULA HAS REDUCED OUR FUNDS BY 1.119 MILLION FOR A TOTAL REDUCTION OF 1.9 MILLION FROM THE STATE PROPERTY. 
          TAX RELIEF HAS REMAINED UNCHANGED. 
          OTHER STATE REVENUE HAS INCREASED BY 1.8 MILLION. 
          HOWEVER, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT EVERY ONE OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE EARMARKED FOR A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE. 
          THAT IS TEACHER RAISES, RAISES, AND THE FRINGE BENEFITS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. 
          SO IT IS A MANDATED, UH, EXPENDITURE. 
          SO FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, WE ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A PASS THROUGH. 
          SO OUR TOTAL STATE REVENUE, EVEN IF YOU INCLUDE THE 1.8 MILLION INCREASE, IS ACTUALLY A DECREASE OF ALMOST $104,000. 
          THE REVENUE TOTALS, UH, 100, UH, MILLION 879, 731 IN LOCAL REVENUE, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 6.275 STATE REVENUE, THE DECREASE OF 103,000 FEDERAL REVENUE, WE HAVE LOST 150,000 IN FEDERAL DOLLARS FUND BALANCE USAGE, WE'RE PROJECTING THE SAME FOR NEXT YEAR AS THIS YEAR. 
          SO IT'S UNCHANGED. 
          SO THE TOTAL BUDGET INCREASE WOULD BE A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 4.8%. 
          THE BUDGET INCREASES ARE SHOWN HERE. 
          UH, AS MR. GENERALS MENTIONED, WE'RE OPENING BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL. 
          THE INCREASED COST TO OPEN BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL TO INCLUDE ALL SALARIES AND UTILITIES AND MAINTENANCE, EVERYTHING IS $3.1 MILLION. 
          THE REQUIRED TEACHER RAISES 2.07% IS 2.7 MILLION, INCREASED IN FIXED COSTS, WHICH IS MAINTENANCE, INSURANCE, UTILITIES, AND AN INCREASED, UH, ALLOCATION FOR THE ACADEMY FOR CAREER EXCELLENCE. 
          917,000. 
          THE NEW POSITIONS FOR GROWTH, 12 TEACHERS, TWO ASSISTANT TEACHERS, ONE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, 875,000. 
          THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP INITIATIVE, THIS IS, UH, USING GENERAL FUND IN LIEU OF SPECIAL REVENUE, WHICH, UH, WE HAVE LOST 605,000 HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASED. 
          THIS IS, UH, MANDATED BY THE STATE. 
          311,000, A 2% RAISE FOR OUR CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES, 299,000, ALMOST 300,000. 
          A 2% RAISE FOR ADMINISTRATION, 171,000. 
          AND THE OPENING OF THE ST. 
          HELENA EARLY LEARNING CHILDHOOD CENTER, WHICH IS UTILITIES ONLY SINCE THERE IS NO INCREASE IN LABOR HERE, 69,000. 
          THE NEW POSITIONS FOR GROWTH. 
          UH, 875,000 FOR THE PROJECTED 484 STUDENT INCREASE. 
          14 TEACHERS, TWO ASSISTANT TEACHERS AND ONE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR. 
          COST OF NEW FACILITIES, 3.1 MILLION. 
          ALMOST ALL OF THIS IS BLUFFTON HIGH SCHOOL PERSONNEL. 
          63% PUPIL SERVICES, 10% UTILITIES, 14% MAINTENANCE, 12%, AND ONE ADDITIONAL SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER FOR BLUFFTON, HIGH 1%. 
          NOW, BECAUSE OF THESE INCREASES, WE HAVE HAD TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT DECREASES IN THE BUDGET THAT WE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. 
          SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE TRANSFERS TO SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE USING SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS IN LIEU OF GENERAL FUNDS TO PAY FOR SERVICES, WHICH MEANS A DECREASE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, NOT A DECREASE IN TOTAL SERVICE. 
          WE'VE REDUCED SPECIAL EDUCATION BY $700,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WE'VE REDUCED GIFTED AND TALENTED BY 147,000, READING RECOVERY BY 75,000. 
          TITLE TWO BY 54,600 AND TITLE V BY 64,000 
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FOR A TOTAL TRANSFER OF A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          WE HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT DECREASES IN MAINTENANCE. 
          WE'VE REDUCED CUSTODIAL SERVICES BY 22 POSITIONS FOR $465,000, AND WE'VE REDUCED THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE BY $350,000 FOR A TOTAL REDUCTION OF 815,000. 
          WE HAVE ALSO REDUCED PERSONNEL AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL, A TOTAL OF FIVE, ALL AT THE DISTRICT LEVEL, THREE ADMINISTRATORS, TWO CLASSIFIED FOR A TOTAL OF ALMOST 304,000 TOTAL BUDGET DECREASES ARE SHOWN HERE. 
          UH, I'VE ALREADY COVERED MOST OF THEM. 
          THE REDUCED DISTRICT NON-SALARY BUDGETS, THE FOURTH LINE DOWN $465,000. 
          WE ACHIEVE THAT BY REDUCING PUBLIC INFORMATION, TECHNOLOGY AND STAFF DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE ALSO REDUCED THE SCHOOL'S PERSONNEL BUDGET BY $25 PER STUDENT FOR A SAVINGS OF 437,000. 
          SO THE TOTAL BUDGET REDUCTION IS A LITTLE BIT OVER $3 MILLION. 
          OUR EXPENDITURES ARE SHOWN HERE, SALARIES AND BENEFITS, UH, 101 MILLION FOR AN INCREASE OF ALMOST TWO AND A HALF MILLION. 
          NONS SALARY, 27.3 MILLION, AN INCREASE OF 715,000. 
          AND THE NEW PERSONNEL FOR GROWTH, AN INCREASE OF $2.8 MILLION. 
          TOTAL INCREASE OF $6 MILLION. 
          SO THE CERTIFIED FISCAL YEAR 2005 BUDGET FOR THE BUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT IS A TOTAL OF $131,196,672. 
          AN INCREASE OF A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION OR 4.8%. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. STERN. 
          MR. NIRO. 
          OH, I WANNA THANK, UH, AL AND THE, UH, AND THE BOARD FOR SPENDING TIME ON THIS THIS AFTERNOON. 
          WE HAD A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO VET THIS ON OUR GOOD GO FIRST. 
          GO AROUND. 
          I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AS WE, AS WE DIG INTO THIS, AL, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL, DONNA AND THE REST OF THE DISTRICT FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS IN MAKING THIS, UH, A MUCH EASIER YEAR THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST. 
          IT'S BEEN EXCELLENT. 
          UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DID NOT, UH, AND I MAY BE A LITTLE BIT, UH, EARLY ON THIS, BUT WE DID NOT, UH, UH, HAVE A VOTE IN, IN, UH, FINANCE TODAY. 
          'CAUSE WE FRANKLY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, AND I PASS THIS ON TO COUNCIL TO, TO PROBABLY MOVE FORWARD WITH AT LEAST A, UH, A, A MOVEMENT ON THE BUDGET BY TITLE ONLY, UH, JUST TO GET US MOVING FROM A ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE BUDGET ON, ON BY TITLE ONLY. 
          SECOND, MR. LAMB. 
          SECOND. 
          UH, ANY QUESTIONS COMMENT MR. STEWART? UM, I'M HAPPY TO DO THIS. 
          I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT FOR THE FOLKS WHO MIGHT NOT THAT IN THE DISCUSSION THAT I PARTICIPATED IN AND, UH, CAMERON FINANCE COMMITTEE HAS DIFFERENT NUMBERS. 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROJECTED GROWTH IN THE TAX BASE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY WOULD ALLOW THIS BUDGET TO BE FUNDED WITHOUT REQUIRING AN INCREASE IN THE MILLAGE RATE. 
          THAT'S PRELIMINARY. 
          I KNOW, BUT FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION, THAT'S AT LEAST THE UNDERSTANDING I'M PROCEEDING FROM AT THIS TIME. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I SUPPORT THAT POSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. BOND HARD, MR. STERN, IF, UH, IF MEMORY SERVES THE DEFICIENCY IN THE STATE MONIES WAS AT 1.9, YOUR HONOR. 
          RECALL, I'M SORRY, SIR. 
          THE DEFICIENCIES IN STATE FUNDS THAT YOU EXPECT TO RECEIVE IN REVENUE WAS 1.9 MILLION, CORRECT. 
          1.9 MILLION. 
          AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE 6,021,000 THAT YOU ARE, UH, REQUESTING FROM LOCAL REVENUE? YES, SIR. 
          IT IS. 
          IF THAT WERE IMPOSSIBLE TO DO, IF THE LOCAL FUNDS WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO MAKE UP FOR THE STATE'S SHORTFALL, HAS THE, UH, SCHOOL BOARD AND SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, UH, EXAMINED THAT QUESTION FOR OF WHERE YOU WOULD GO IN THAT EVENT? WE HAVE LOOKED AT, UH, WAYS WE COULD MAKE UP FOR THE SHORTFALL THROUGH EITHER REDUCING THE BUDGET FUND BALANCE, OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF. 
          UH, IN ALL HONESTY, WE HAVE MADE NO DECISIONS, NOR DO WE PLAN TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT OUR BUDGET IS. 
          BECAUSE ANY DECISIONS WE MAKE PRIOR TO YOU APPROVING THE BUDGET ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WOULD BE PREMATURE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          I I'M JUST CURIOUS IF, UH, IF YOU HAD ANTICIPATED THAT POSSIBILITY, AND IF SO, A GENERAL COURSE OF ACTION, UH, AS I SAID, REDUCE THE BUDGET, USE SOME FUND BALANCE. 
          THERE'S, THOSE ARE ABOUT THE ONLY TWO OPTIONS SHORT OF ROBBING A BANK. 
          WELL MAKE IT OUT STATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S BUDGET? FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY. 
          UH, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING 
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OF HANDS, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. 
          WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING, BUT WE GOT YOU DONE EARLY SO THAT YOU DIDN'T FEEL OBLIGATED TO DO SO. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          YOU ALL HAVE A NICE, NICE AFTERNOON, MR. KUBERT. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF COUNSEL. 
          UM, FORTUNATELY YOU HAVE A, A LENGTHY AGENDA, SO MY COMMENTS WILL BE VERY BRIEF, AT LEAST IN THIS PORTION OF MY REPORT BEFORE YOU, UM, AS A MATTER OF ROUTINE. 
          NOW YOU HAVE THE, UH, MY TWO WEEK PROGRESS REPORT, UM, AT YOUR DISPOSAL. 
          YOU CAN REVIEW IT. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM FOR YOU. 
          IF NOT, I'D LIKE TO, TO JUMP AHEAD. 
          UM, AS, UH, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED OVER THE LAST FEW MEETINGS, UM, MY PURPOSE OF BRINGING FORWARD, UH, VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO EXPLAIN TO YOU AND TO THE CITIZENS OF BUFORD COUNTY, UH, THE VARIOUS FUNCTIONS OF GOVERNMENT. 
          UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, REGISTERED OF DEEDS BY MR. JACK SULLIVAN, UH, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF THAT DIVISION. 
          UH, JACK HAS A, A REPORT BASICALLY, I THINK AROUND 12, 15 MINUTES, AND I'D LIKE TO TURN THE PODIUM OVER TO JACK. 
          BEFORE YOU DO THAT, MR. BERT, LET, LET ME ASK A QUESTION. 
          MS. RAINEY, HAD YOU BEEN GIVEN ANY MORE REQUESTS TO SPEAK THAT WE OVERLOOK? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          REVEREND YOUNG, I'M SORRY THERE WAS NOTHING TURNED INTO MS. RAINEY DURING THE, UH, ALLOTTED TIME SO THAT WE COULD RECOGNIZE YOU, BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GET TO YOU JUST AS QUICK AS WE CAN AT THE NE NEXT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          THEY GAVE ME ALL THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAD TO SPEAK, BUT, BUT MR. CHAIR, WHEN BEFORE YOU TO HAVE, YOU DIDN'T DO THAT TONIGHT? UH, IF IT DIDN'T, SIR, I APOLOGIZE. 
          IT'S NOT A POLICY, IT'S JUST HABIT. 
          AND PRIMARILY I DO THAT WITH PUBLIC HEARINGS TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE. 
          UH, BUT WE, WE GOT A LONG AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET TO YOU AT THE NEXT PUBLIC. 
          I'M, I, UH, WE CALL ON EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD UP HERE, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SULLIVAN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MS. CUBIC, I REALLY APPRECIATE WE CAN GET THIS THING TO WORK. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          THIS IS MY FIRST, LEMME START OVER HERE REAL QUICK. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          I THOUGHT WE HAD THIS ALL SET UP AND READY TO GO. 
          SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLICK ON PRESENTATION AND GET STARTED ON IT. 
          POWERPOINT. 
          IT WAS RIGHT THERE WHEN I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE WE, WE DID A DRY RUN THE OTHER DAY AND IT WAS NOTHING LIKE THAT. 
          THAT'S ALWAYS THE WAY IT WORKS. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UH, BEFORE I BEGIN, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THANK YOU, UH, TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR DOING THIS. 
          I THINK IT'S A OUTSTANDING IDEA AND, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA PAY OFF IN THE LONG RUN. 
          I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE A COUPLE OF MY KEY PLAYERS, IF, IF I MAY. 
          OUR CHIEF CLARK IS CHARLIE SMITH. 
          BEST ONE WE'VE EVER HAD IS DOING A FABULOUS JOB. 
          PATTY GREEN, SHE'S OUR THINKER. 
          SHE KEEPS US, UH, EVERYTHING RUNNING EXACTLY RIGHT IN THE OFFICE, AND THEY'RE DOING A FABULOUS JOB FOR US AND, UH, REALLY GLAD TO HAVE 'EM. 
          I GIVE THEM AND, AND MY STAFF ALL THE CREDIT FOR, FOR WHATEVER WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH UP THERE. 
          UH, FOR CENTURIES IN OUR CU CULTURE, THE ORDERLY TRANSFER OF PROPERTY HAS BEEN 
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HANDLED PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WAY. 
          CONTRACTUAL DOCUMENTS WHICH IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY, WHICH SET FORTH ANY CONDITIONS OF THE TRANSFER ARE EXECUTED BY THE SELLERS WHOSE EXECUTION IS WITNESSED AND NOTARIZED, AND THEN THEY'RE RACED TO THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT OFFICE. 
          I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST RACE NOTICE DATE. 
          PROBABLY. 
          UH, THE COUNTY'S ENTIRE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY REVOLVES AROUND WHAT GOES ON THE REGISTERED DEEDS OFFICE. 
          WITHOUT A CENTRAL EFFICIENT, RELIABLE AND ACCESSIBLE SYSTEM, THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY WOULD BE IN CHAOS. 
          . 
          THIS IS BECAUSE MOST PROPERTY SALES WHERE MONEY CHANGES HANDS INVOLVES A LOAN. 
          MOST LENDERS REQUIRE TITLE INSURANCE ON THE TRANSFER OF PROPERTY, WHICH REQUIRES AN ATTORNEY'S, UH, CERTIFICATION OF A CHAIN OF TITLE EXAMINATION IS PERFORMED BY PROFESSIONAL ABSTRACTERS. 
          WELL, AM I OVERSTATING THE IMPORTANCE OF MY OFFICE? WELL, A LITTLE BIT PERHAPS, BUT CONSIDER THIS MILITARY SPENDING $450 MILLION NEW CONSTRUCTION, $430 MILLION PER YEAR. 
          TOURISM HILTON HAD A LOAN, ONE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS REAL ESTATE OVER $3 BILLION A YEAR. 
          A GOOD PERCENTAGE OF THAT IS COMING IN FROM OUTTA STATE. 
          UH, ONLY 50% OR PERHAPS LESS OF ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THIS STATE IS OWNER OCCUPIED. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY COMING IN FROM OUTTA STATE. 
          UH, BASED ON THAT, I THINK CLEARLY, UM, A CONSERVABLE MEASURE OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMY REVOLVES AROUND THE REGISTERED DEEDS OFFICE. 
          THE REGISTER'S OFFICE IS ESTABLISHED BY LAW AND IS RESPONSIBLE IN FOR ENSURING THAT DOCUMENTS ENTRUSTED TO ITS CARE PRESERVED IN A FORM WILL KEEP THEM SAFE AND READILY ACCESSIBLE AS LONG AS REQUIRED. 
          MOST DOCUMENTS ARE PRESERVED PERMANENTLY IN BOTH A COMPUTERIZED FORM AND ON MICROFILM IN THE STATE'S. 
          WONDERFUL NEW ARCHIVES, OH, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          I THINK THAT'S INSIDE. 
          AFTER THE MOVE. 
          THERE'S THEIR WONDERFUL NEW ARCHIVE BUILDING. 
          IN ADDITION TO DEEDS AND MORTGAGES, WE ALSO RECORD OTHER DOCUMENTS, UH, UCC FINANCING STATEMENTS, LIENS, BOTH TAX AND MECHANICS LIENS, AGRICULTURAL CONTRACTS FOR TIMBER MILITARY DISCHARGES, PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS, CORPORATE CHARTERS, MINUTES OF COUNCIL AND ORDINANCES, ROAD NAME CHANGES, PUBLIC OFFICIAL BONDS. 
          THE DEPARTMENT'S ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLECTING CERTAIN MANDATED FEES FOR RECORDING THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL COLLECT AND DISTRIBUTE OVER $14 MILLION, OF WHICH ABOUT 4 MILLION WILL GO UP TO SUPPORT COUNTY OPERATIONS. 
          A SIMILAR AMOUNT WILL BE COLLECTED FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AS TRANSFER FEES TO SUPPORT THEIR LAND PRESERVATION EFFORTS. 
          THE REMAINDER WILL GO TO THE STATE COFFERS, AND SOME OF THAT WILL FIND ITS WAY BACK TO US THROUGH BUDGETARY ENTITLEMENTS SUCH AS THE STATE AID TO SUBDIVISION AND THROUGH VARIOUS STATE SERVICES. 
          WHEN THE REGISTER RECEIVES A DOCUMENT FOR RECORDING, IT'S CHECKED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH STATE RECORDING REQUIREMENTS AND A COMPUTER RECORD IS MADE OF THE TRANSACTION DOCUMENT IS THEN SCANNED INTO A COMPUTER DATABASE AS A DIGITAL IMAGE. 
          THE LATER THE DOCUMENT IS INDEXED, THESE FOLKS ARE GETTING READY TO INDEX. 
          ALL THIS TYPICALLY OCCURS THE SAME DAY WE RECEIVE THE DOCUMENT, WHICH IS REMARKABLE COMPARED TO ANY OTHER REGISTER IN THE STATE. 
          MOST REGISTERS ARE NOWHERE NEAR LIKE THAT. 
          WE COMPLETE EVERY SINGLE RECORDING THE DAY WE GET IT BY 10 O'CLOCK MIDDAY, UH, UH, IN THE MORNING, THE NEXT DAY IT'S FULLY VERIFIED. 
          IT'S AVAILABLE OVER THE INTERNET TO ANYONE LATER. 
          A COPY OF THE DIGITAL IMAGE IS MADE ON MICROFILM FOR ARCHIVAL PURPOSES AND FOR BACKUP TO THE COMPUTER. 
          AND WE KEEP THEM HERE. 
          WE KEEP THEM AT THE ARCHIVES AND THE STATE ARCHIVES KEEPS, UH, A PERMIT COPY. 
          FINALLY, THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT IS RETURNED TO THE FILE. 
          ALL RECORDED DOCUMENTS ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS AND MAY BE VIEWED ON THE DEED ROOM OR BY ACCESS TO OUR WEBSITE@WWW.BCGOV.NET. 
          GET THE WRONG THING. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          , UH, TAKE ME BACK A SECOND. 
          NOW I'M TAKING YOU LIVE ON THE SYSTEM, ON 
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OUR SYSTEM. 
          THIS IS REAL TIME. 
          WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE DO. 
          OUR RECORDING REQUIREMENTS, UM, FORMS THE FEES, AND YOU CAN ALSO DO AN AUTOMATED LOOKUP BY GOING TO REGISTERED LOGIN. 
          THIS IS WORKING. 
          GREAT. 
          GOOD JOB. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          MIS DEPARTMENT , UH, YOU CAN LOOK UP DOCUMENTS BY PARTY NAME, BY THE DOCUMENT TYPE DISTRICT, THE DISTRICT MAG PARCEL NUMBER, WHICH IS THE TAX NUMBER BY THE BOOKING PAGE NUMBER. 
          UH, WE'LL JUST DO SOMETHING AT RANDOM HERE. 
          LET'S SEE, HOW ABOUT, LET'S SEE WHAT WE GET HERE. 
          LOTS OF STUFF. 
          , . 
          DO I HAVE THE GUTS? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IT'S ALL PUBLIC ANYWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY WHERE I WAS A LAWYER AND HELPED THEM DO THE TRANSACTION. 
          UM, YOU'LL GET A HIT LIST. 
          UH, THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO. 
          UM, LET ME JUST GO BACK FOR A SECOND. 
          UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEARCH ON A SPECIFIC DOCUMENT TYPE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S LOOK AT, UH, PALS OF ATTORNEY. 
          UM, I CAN SHOW THE NUMBER OF RECORDS THAT I EXPECT TO FIND. 
          I'LL SAY THE FIRST 500 DISPLAY, HOW MANY THAT YOU WANT TO DISPLAY. 
          YOU COULD ALSO GIVE, UH, A, A DATE RANGE, UH, AND THEN WE'LL DO A SEARCH. 
          COME ON COMPUTER. 
          YEAH, I MAY. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          SO, SO YOU SEE WE HAVE A LISTING ONLY OF THE POWERS OF ATTORNEY UNDER MR. NEWTON'S NAME. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD HAVE DONE IS WE COULD HAVE NOT SELECTED A SPECIFIC DOCUMENT TYPE. 
          WE'D HAVE GOTTEN ALL OF THEM, AND THEN YOU COULD CLICK ON THE DOCUMENT TYPE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, AND IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY, UH, FILTER OUT EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          UH, YOU CAN ALSO SORT, IF WE WANNA LOOK BY DATE RANGE, WE JUST CLICK ON THE, UM, TOP OF THE COLUMN AND IT SORTS NOW IN THE DATE RANGE. 
          SO WE'LL SEE THE MOST OF THE EARLIEST DOCUMENTS RECORDED FIRST. 
          IF WE WANT TO VIEW THE DOCUMENT, WE CLICK ON VIEW OUT TO THE LEFT. 
          IT'LL SHOW YOU THE NUMBER OF PAGES TO THE DOCUMENT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M NOT GETTING A VIEW ON THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          MAYBE TWO, MAYBE TOO EARLY. 
          1993. 
          LET'S TRY THIS ONE. 
          FOR SOME REASON, WE'RE NOT GETTING A, JUST THINKING. 
          YEAH. 
          UNLOCK THE SIFT THROUGH. 
          YEAH, I DON'T WANNA TAKE OFF MY TIME WAITING ON IT ANYWAY. 
          IT WILL, THE, THE, UH, THE VIEW WILL COME UP. 
          OTHER THINGS YOU CAN DO. 
          UH, I WANT TO GO BACK AND JUST REAL QUICKLY AND SHOW YOU, UM, IF YOU CAN USE WILD CARDS TOO. 
          LET'S TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, MCNAMARA. 
          AND IF, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MC OR MAC, I CAN PUT IN A WILD CARD AND, UM, ACTUALLY WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE WAS LEFT THAT C OFF THERE, BUT IT WILL GIVE ME THE LISTS OF THE MCS, THE MACS, WHATEVER I WANT. 
          AGAIN, IF I WANNA SEE THE DEEDS ON HILTON HEAD, I JUST CLICK ON AN REDH THERE AND IT'LL FILTER THOSE OUT. 
          UH, I CAN ALSO SORT ON THE DATE, UH, AND LET'S JUST DO THAT REAL QUICK. 
          SEE IF WE CAN GET AN IMAGE TO COME UP HERE, CLICK ON VIEW. 
          FOR SOME REASON I'M NOT GETTING THE IMAGES. 
          AUGUST. 
          YEAH, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING GOING ON TONIGHT JUST BACKING UP AND DOING SOMETHING, BUT SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT, UH, USUALLY DOES COME UP PRETTY WELL. 
          OUR DATABASE CURRENTLY CONTAINS OUR INDEX FOR RECORDED DOCUMENTS BACK THROUGH 1990, AN IMAGE OF THE DOCUMENTS BACK TO 1994. 
          AND WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING VERY HARD TO GET THE INDEX BACK TO 18 THREE AND RELATED IMAGES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE CONVERTED THANKS TO YOUR GENEROSITY AND THE WORK OF A LOT OF HARD WORK, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE'VE ACTUALLY CONVERTED IMAGES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1863, AND WE HOPE AT SOME POINT, POSSIBLY EVEN DEPENDING ON WORKLOADS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET ALL THAT DONE THIS CALENDAR YEAR. 
          I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO VERY BRIEFLY JUST READ A LITTLE SECTION FROM A LETTER FROM BECKMAN, BECKMAN WHEEL AND SHEPHERDSON, A LAW FIRM IN BECK IN, UM, CINCINNATI, OHIO. 
          AND I'LL I'LL SAY TO YOU THAT HARDLY 
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A WEEK GOES BY, BY THAT I DON'T GET USUALLY A VERBAL, UH, UH, COMPLIMENT FROM SOMEONE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND OTHER PLACES THAT GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH THIS. 
          I'M VERY GRATEFUL AND ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WEBSITE INFORMATION YOU'VE PROVIDED. 
          IT'S THE BEST COUNTY WEBSITE I'VE USED. 
          YOU'D BE CONGRATULATED FOR THIS FINE INFORMATION. 
          IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE THIS PROVIDED OUTTA STATE INQUIRIES. 
          SO WHAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED THROUGH THE YEARS IS, IS PAYING OFF NOW. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'LL SAY THAT WE ARE THE COUNTY THAT'S, THAT'S BLESSED WITH AN ENVIRONMENT THAT MANY PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE IN THAT'S GOT A LITTLE AHEAD OF MYSELF THERE BEFORE, BUT I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          IT REALLY IS A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE IN. 
          WE'RE BLESSED WITH ACTIVE CITIZENRY AND OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP THAT WORKS TOWARD REASONABLE COMPROMISES BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, ECONOMIC PRESSURES, AND A DESIRE TO PROTECT AND MAINTAIN THE FAVORABLE CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR COUNTY IN ANTICIPATION THAT WE'LL KEEP GROWING WELL INTO THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT THAT YOUR REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE IS KEEPING PACE AND IT HAS ONE OF THE MOST RESPONSIVE AND ACCESSIBLE RECORDING SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY. 
          MUCH TO THE CREDIT OF OUR MS. S DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I'LL THANK MR. GO AND ALL OF YOUR STAFF, ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US, WE'RE WELL PREPARED TO CONTINUE A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE TO OUR PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY WELL INTO THE FUTURE. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          MAY I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JACK? MR. LAMB? I HAVE A STATEMENT. 
          I I THINK WE ARE TRULY BLESSED TO HAVE SUCH A FINE DEPARTMENT. 
          I, IT'S, I'VE TOUCHED IT AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APOLOGIZE FOR THE FLAG, FLAG WAVING, BUT THANK YOU, SIR. 
          APPRECIATE IT, MR. STEWART. 
          MR. SULLIVAN, I WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU AS WELL. 
          I HAD A CONVERSATION THIS MORNING WITH A FELLOW IN ATLANTA WHO IS TRYING TO BUY SOME PROPERTY THERE AND HAS JUST LEARNED THAT IT TAKES TOO MUCH FROM THE TIME A PIECE OF PAPER ARRIVES IN THEIR OFFICE BEFORE IT'S LISTED IN THE SYSTEM. 
          AND NET EFFECT OF THAT IS HUGE TRAFFIC JAMS, BIG PARKING PROBLEMS AND INCREASED COSTS FOR, UH, TITLE INSURANCE AND TRANSACTION FEES. 
          SO I THINK THE SERVICE YOU'RE DELIVERING DELIVERS A REAL VALUE TO THE FOLKS YOU'LL HAVE TO DRIVE UP HERE AND WIND THROUGH BIG STACKS OF PAPER TO TRY TO DO WHAT YOU DO. 
          SO THANKS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. DO APPRECIATE IT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, JACK, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING. 
          I, MY CAPACITY IS IN MY OTHER JOB. 
          UH, I'VE DEALT WITH THE REGISTER'S OFFICE IN MANY OTHER AREAS IN THE STATE, UH, BOTH WHEN I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL AND PRACTICING LAW BEFORE I, I LOCATED TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND YOU ALL TRULY DO PERFORM AN EXEMPLARY PUBLIC SERVICE AND, AND I HEAR NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS FROM OTHER COLLEAGUES IN THE BAR AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE FIELD. 
          SO IT'S, UH, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          LADIES, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          MR. CO, I JUST HAVE, UH, TWO FOLLOW UP COMMENTS. 
          UH, AGAIN, AS, UH, WE HAVE IN THE PAST WEEKS AND, AND AGAIN HERE TODAY, UM, THE INTENT IS TO BRING FORWARD SERVICES, UH, THAT ARE PERFORMED. 
          AND, AND THIS ONE TYPICALLY DOESN'T GET THE ATTENTION AS MAYBE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND, UM, THE OTHERS THAT, UH, MAKE THE NEWS, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE AND SEE AGAIN, THE CORRELATION BETWEEN INVESTING IN SOME TECHNOLOGY, IMPROVING EFFICIENCIES, BUT THE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION SO PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO TRAVEL DOWN TO THE COURTHOUSE AND GET THIS DATA, BUT THEY CAN GET IT ACCESSING IT THROUGH THEIR HOME OR LIBRARY. 
          MY SECOND COMMENT IS THAT, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE JACK'S, UH, REHEARSAL, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU I'LL WATCH EVERY OTHER ONE THAT IN THE FUTURE. 
          THAT'S I THANK YOU, MR. KUBICK. 
          MR. BOND, HART, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, TONY, YOU AND I HAVEN'T, UH, MR. ELLA, YOU AND I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE RIGHT NOW, BUT DO YOU HAVE ALL THESE DOCUMENTS WITH YOU THAT WHEN WE PUT UP THE, UH, UH, IF YOU COULD, IF THAT THING IS WORKING, WE MIGHT PUT THE MAP UP THERE SO THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE COULD SEE IT. 
          IF YOU DON'T MIND ASSISTING IN THAT, WE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF COUNSEL, UH, DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON THE AGENDA AND A TAB IN YOUR WORKBOOK. 
          UH, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND WHAT THIS IS, IS AN AMENDMENT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          IT EVOLVED TO SECTION EIGHT, THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY. 
          AND WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ADDING, UH, A REVISED CLASSIFICATION MAP TO OUR ROAD SYSTEM WITHIN THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN SEE, UM, 
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THE RECLASSIFICATIONS OF THE SEVERAL ROADS THAT WE HAVE. 
          WHAT THIS BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO IS A LONG RANGE PLANNING PROCESS SO THAT OUR ROADWAYS ARE CLASSIFIED AS TO THEIR LEVEL, EXCUSE ME, OF USE, AND ALLOWS US FOR PLANNING SURFACES IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          THAT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THE, UH, SCREEN THAN I ANTICIPATED, BUT THE RED, UH, LINES ARE PRINCIPLE ARTERIALS. 
          THE YELLOW OR GOLDEN LINES ARE MINOR ARTERIALS. 
          THE RED DOTTED ARE MAJOR COLLECTOR ROADS, AND THE YELLOW DOTTED ARE MINOR COLLECTOR ROADS. 
          AND THIS HELPS IN THE PLANNING, UH, FOR ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND, UH, LONG RANGE PLANNING FOR, UH, ROAD SYSTEMS WITHIN THE COUNTY. 
          WE DISCUSSED THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING AND I RECOMMENDED IT TO YOU FOR APPROVAL ON SECOND READING CHANGE, UH, A NEW MATH OF FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATIONS FOR ROADWAYS AND THE CONFIDENCE PLAN. 
          QUESTIONS. 
          MR. GENERALS, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION. 
          I KNOW, I WAS JUST TRYING TO REMEMBER BACK COMMENTS ABOUT HIGHWAYS, THE, THE FREEWAYS, THE, WE ADDED THE DEFINITION THE LAST TIME. 
          IT'S, UH, MR. STEWART'S RECOMMENDATION TO ADD A DEFINITION FOR FREEWAYS. 
          WHAT'S IN THE DEFINITION? IF YOU'LL CHECK IN YOUR, IN YOUR NEXT ITEM NINE IN THE NEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE ZDSO, THAT DEFINITION FREEWAYS INCLUDED IN THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS SIMPLY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MATTER. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING OF HANDS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. BUN HARTMAN. 
          LET ME ANNOUNCE A PUBLIC HEARING ON MONDAY, JUNE 14TH AT 6:00 PM UH, OUR COUNCIL MEETING IS ONE OF THE SOUTHERN BUFORD COUNTY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          UH, BUT NONETHELESS, AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THERE IS THIS MATTER WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR THIRD AND FINAL READING FOLLOWED, UH, UH, PROCEEDED BY, EXCUSE ME, FOR PUBLIC CARE MR. BOND HART. 
          ITEM NINE IS THE FOLLOW ON TO THE VERY SAME SUBJECT MATTER EXCEPT THIS DEAL FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ORDINANCE, WHICH, UH, ADDS THE DEFINITIONS THAT WE, UH, ALLUDED TO A MOMENT AGO TO THOSE SAME ROADWAY SYSTEMS AND ADDS THE MAP, UH, SHOWING EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW JUST A MOMENT AGO, UH, TO THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          ORDINANCE. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, OUR ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ORDINANCE PUTS INTO TEXT AND DETAIL THE, UH, BROAD STATEMENTS INCLUDED WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND ITEM NINE ON THE AGENDA IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE, UH, TEXT AMENDMENTS OF THE ZDSO ARTICLE I, SECTION 1 0 6 DASH 18. 
          ADDING THE DEFINITIONS OF THOSE SILVER ROADWAYS AND APPENDIX ENDS THE SAME MAP SHOWING THE FUNCTIONAL ROAD CLASSIFICATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY. 
          IT'S A LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS ON, UH, SECOND READING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE INDICATE BY SHOWING HANDS. 
          AMEN. 
          MR. HOR. 
          ITEM 10 ON YOUR AGENDA IS, UH, IS ANOTHER ITEM FOR, UH, SECOND READING. 
          IT IS FOUND AT TAB 10 IN YOUR WORKBOOK. 
          IT DEALS WITH, UH, TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ORDINANCE AND PROVIDES DEFINITIONS AND STANDARDS FOR INLAND WATER FREIGHT TRANSPORTATION, SPECIFICALLY APPENDIX DEED. 
          TABLE FOUR SHOWS YOU THE COMMUNITY PRESERVATION USE TABLE AND APPENDIX DEED, SECTION SEVEN SUB E INLAND WATER FREIGHT TRANSPORTATION. 
          AND AS YOU NOTICE, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MAKING INLAND WATER FREIGHT TRANSPORTATION, A SPECIAL USE ON DSGE ISLAND IN THE COMMUNITY PRESERVATION DISTRICT THERE TO ALLOW FOR FREIGHT TRANSPORT BY FERRIES IN THAT SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED TO YOU BY THE LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL ON SECOND READING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MR. LAMB? SEVERAL, SEVERAL COMMENTS. 
          UM, I HAVE HEARD FROM A NUMBER OF MY CONSTITUENTS, UH, THERE'S CONCERN ON DUSKY 
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ABOUT THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE LOCATION OF A COMMERCIAL BARGING FACILITY THERE, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A PROCESS THROUGH WHICH, UH, APPLICATIONS WILL BE DEALT WITH SUBSEQUENT TO THE ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE. 
          AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, CITIZENS OF DUSKY OR OTHER CONCERNED CITIZENS TO COMMENT BOTH TO THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND, UH, TO OCRM WITH RESPECT TO THE LOCATION OF THESE KINDS OF FACILITIES. 
          IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS ONLY ADDRESSES FUSS ISLAND, THAT IT DOES NOT PERMIT THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY ELSEWHERE, WHICH SORT OF IMPLIES TO ME THAT YOU CAN HAVE A BARGE AT ONE END, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A BARGE COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHICH MEANS IN POINT OF FACT THAT THIS BARGE IS, UH, DESIGNED TO COME FROM SAVANNAH. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT A SIMILAR SPECIAL USE ZONING CANNOT BE LOCATED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY. 
          UH, BUT THAT DID NOT SUCCESSFULLY PASS, UH, THROUGH THE COMMITTEE. 
          SO THOSE PERSONS HAVING A DIRECT INTEREST IN A PARTICULAR APPLICATION, UH, FOR WHICH HAS BEEN FILED IN THE ANTICIPATION OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS ORDINANCE, NEED TO CONTACT THE COURT OF ENGINEERS BEFORE JUNE, THE FIRST, OR, UH, OCRM PRIOR TO, I BELIEVE IT'S JUNE THE 16TH. 
          THANK YOU MR. GENERALS. 
          S***T. 
          HELP ME WITH THIS, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS OPPOSITE OF WHAT MR. LAMB HAS JUST STATED, SO PERHAPS YOU CAN HELP CLARIFY FOR ME. 
          I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THIS WAS RESTRICTING TO SOME DEGREE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN DFOS, BUT NOT TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY. 
          SO IF I'M MISTAKEN, PLEASE HELP ME. 
          THIS IS A CHANGE TO THE, UH, COMMUNITY PRESERVATION DISTRICT ON THE PRESQUE ISLAND. 
          IT ALLOWS FOR INLAND WATERFRONT TRANSPORTATION IN THAT SPECIFIC COMMUNITY PRESERVATION DISTRICT. 
          AT YOUR RECOMMENDATION DURING THE COMMITTEE, THE, UH, BARGE USE AND, AND FERRY LANDINGS AND OTHER PORTIONS OF THE COUNTY REMAINS UNDER FURTHER STUDY BY THE PLANNING STAFF AND WILL BE REPORTED TO US IN DUE COURSE CORRECTLY STATED. 
          MR. ELLI, IT IS THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? YES, PLEASE. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, MR. GENERALS, OBVIOUSLY, A BARD CAN LEAVE THE CITY OF BUFORT OR THE TOWN OF FORT ROYAL OR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD FOR THAT MATTER, OR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND GO OVER TO, TO DUSKY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OUR, OUR ZONING REGULATIONS DO NOT PROHIBIT ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE UNIN WITH THE, UH, WITHIN THE INCORPORATED AREAS, CORRECT? ISN'T THAT CORRECT, MR. CHRISTAL? OKAY. 
          SO WHAT'S UNDER FURTHER CONSIDERATION IS WHETHER OTHER AREAS IN UNINCORPORATED BUFORD, UH, ARE CAPABLE, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY NOTHING THAT THERE'S NOTHING RESTRICTED. 
          OKAY? NOW, AND THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I RAISED IT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE ANY REASON FOR US TO BE RESTRICTING ELSEWHERE AS WE WERE DEALING WITH DUSKY ONLY. 
          SO, PETER, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BEING, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, IS THAT YOUR FEAR IS, IS NOT WELL FOUNDED AS IT RELATES TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY. 
          I WOULDN'T BE, I WOULDN'T BE SO QUICK TO GO THERE. 
          YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, SIR. 
          ALRIGHT, AT THIS POINT WE'RE SILENT ON THE QUESTION AND THE REST OF THE YES, SIR. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, UH, I DIDN'T THINK I HAVE ANY, BUT NOW JOHN MORALE HAS MADE THIS POINT. 
          I DO NEED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I READ THE CHART THAT WE'RE PASSING HERE UNDER INLAND WATER FREIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY PRESERVATION USE TABLES, IT IS A NOT ALLOWED USE EXCEPT ON THE BUS GALLON WHERE IT'S A SPECIAL USE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, MR. DEROS? BECAUSE LET'S, LET'S TURN TO TONY. 
          I KNOW WHAT MY INTENT WAS. 
          PERHAPS IT, IT'S NOT ALLOWED ANYWHERE. 
          I UNDERSTAND, BUT I THOUGHT MR. GENERALS WAS UNDER THE PERCEPTION THAT IF WE PASS THIS, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED EVERYWHERE. 
          NO, NO. 
          DID I MISHEAR YOU ON THAT? OKAY, THEN I WITHDRAW MY COMMENT. 
          IT'S ONLY HERE AND CLASSIFIED M IN ALL OTHER DISTRICT OR, OR IDENTIFIED AREAS AND IN AS THEY PROHIBITED, AND IT'S PROHIBITED AS WELL. 
          I, I KNOW MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT, THAT IT'S NOT PERMITTED IN BLUFFTON AND BLUFFTON IS LISTED THERE AND I THINK BLUFFTON IS INCORPORATED. 
          THE BLUFFTON CP DISTRICT IS WHAT THIS REFERENCE IS, PETER. 
          I UNDERSTAND, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT IS IN THE, BUT THERE ISN'T A BLUFFTON CP DISTRICT, SIR. 
          THERE IS. 
          WELL, IT'S DESIGNATED AS ONE. 
          THEY MAY NOT HAVE EVER DONE ANYTHING WITH STANDARDS. 
          IT IS UNDERGOING, IT IS UNDER INTERIM STANDARDS THAT HAS TIME WITHOUT HAVING A SPECIFIC, UH, CP DISTRICT TASK FOR THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA. 
          WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT MAP AMENDMENTS MAY TAKE PLACE IN THE FUTURE. 
          I THINK MY, MY WHOLE POINT, I GUESS MAYBE I SHOULD STATE IT THIS WAY, WAS TO ASK, PLANNING TO COME BACK WITH PERHAPS A BROADER VIEW THAN JUST THAT WHICH WAS NECESSARY ON DUSKY. 
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I, I AM INTERESTED IN A, A POTENTIALLY MORE RELAXED VIEW OF THIS, PERHAPS WHAT WE'VE DONE ON DUSKY, WHERE I KNOW THERE WAS GREAT INTEREST. 
          SO IF I'VE, IF, IF IN THE PROCESS HERE WE END UP WITH SOMETHING AS TIGHTER AS A RESULT, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SURE THAT THAT'S WHERE I WAS TRYING TO HEAD. 
          THANK YOU MR. . 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING THE PANEL UNANIM, MR. BARNHART GOING TO ITEM 10, UH, 11, EXCUSE ME, ON YOUR AGENDA. 
          AND AT TAB 11 IS TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE ZDSO AND IT DEALS WITH, UH, TABLE 1 0 6 DASH 10 98 AND THAT, UH, AND SECTION 1 0 6 DASH 1397 DEALING SPECIFICALLY WITH TEMPORARY OUTDOOR SALES. 
          IT ADDS LIMITED STANDARDS FOR ROADSIDE STANDS AND ADDRESSES LOCATION SIGNAGE, ACCESS, AND THE SALE OF ITEMS OTHER THAN PRODUCE. 
          IT PERMITS ROADSIDE STANDS AS A LIMITED USE IN URBAN, COMMERCIAL, SUBURBAN AND COMMERCIAL REGIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          BEEN DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. 
          BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS TAKE CARE OF THOSE ITEMS MENTIONED SUCH AS SIGNAGE AND SAFETY MATTERS, AND, UH, ADS TO, IN ADDITION TO PRODUCE ROADSIDE STANDS MAY ALSO SELL PRODUCTS SUCH AS FLOWERS, FIREWOOD, AND SEAFOOD. 
          PROVIDES FOR, UH, VEHICLE PARKING RESTRICTIONS PROVIDES FOR THE TERM TERM OF THE, UH, PERMITS AND THE ABILITY FOR ISSUANCE AND REISSUANCE. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED TO YOU BY THE LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL ON SECOND READING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THIS IS ONE THAT THE LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE TOOK UP SOME TIME AGO, AND, UH, DUE TO MY OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT I HAD DIRECTED, UH, TONY TO DO, IT DIDN'T GET BACK ON OUR AGENDA, UH, FOR SECOND READING, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR SECOND READING UNTIL NOW. 
          AND THAT'S AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART. 
          WE CONSIDERED IT IN COMMITTEE SOME WEEKS BACK. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING OF HANDS. 
          THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          MR. BAHAR. 
          NUMBER 12. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NUMBER 12, WE GO BACK TO THE, UH, SHELDON CHURCH ROAD SCENE, HIGHWAY CARD OF DESIGNATION. 
          IF YOU RECALL, IN YOUR PACKET AT, UH, TAB 12, WE HAVE THE LETTER FROM IAN HILL, OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATIONIST, AND ALSO THE LETTER FROM MR. DOUG MCFARLAND, WHO IS, UH, THE CHAIR OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA CENIC HIGHWAYS COMMITTEE, AND THEY HAVE APPROVED AND SENT NOTIFICATION OF THEIR APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE OF THE ENDING POINT THAT YOU RECALL. 
          THE SHELDON CHURCH ROAD SCENIC HIGHWAY CORRIDOR, UH, EXTENDS FROM HIGHWAY 17 ON THE SOUTH TO, UH, LA CRUE ROAD ON THE NORTH AND WEST. 
          AND, UH, THAT SHORTLY HAS BEEN APPROVED BY, UH, THAT APPROPRIATE BODY. 
          ITEM 12 AS FOR A, UH, 11, EXCUSE ME, 12. 
          I'M RIGHT, I GET IT RIGHT IN A MINUTE. 
          TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, APPENDIX H, ADDING THE OLD SHELDON CHURCH ROAD, SCENIC HIGHWAY CARTER TO THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          AND WE WILL FOLLOW THAT WITH TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE ZDSO, ADDING THAT SAME CAR AND, UH, DEVELOPMENT OR, UH, THE PARTICULARS OF THE CAR IN, UH, ITEM 13. 
          BUT IN ITEM 12, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON SECOND READ WELL FOR TAXI MEMBERS TO THE COMP PLAN, ADDING THE SHELDON CHURCH ROAD SCENIC HIGHWAY CAR. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? JIM, ARE YOU TREATING BOTH? EXCUSE YOU TREATING BOTH THESE THE SAME? NO, I'M SEPARATING THEM ONE'S. 
          COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ONE ZDSO, JUDGE, ITEM NUMBER 12, MR. LESLIE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          HEARING NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY. 
          WE, WE ARE DOING THE ZDSO COURT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          NO SIR. 
          COMP PLAN ITEM NUMBER 12 FAR. 
          YOU'RE GONNA GO BACKWARDS. 
          UH, NO ITEM. 
          DON'T KNOW. 
          ITEM 12 IS COMP PLAN. 
          ITEM 13 IS ZDSO. 
          SAME SUBJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          MY, MY BOOK. 
          I'M SORRY, MY BOOK MAY BE NOT ORDER. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I'M THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM NUMBER 12 ON THE AGENDA, UH, IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, APPENDIX H AMENDMENT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING THE OPINIONS UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK 
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YOU, MR. VON HART. 
          AND ITEM 13. 
          ITEM 13 IS THE VERY SAME CARD AT, HOWEVER, INSTEAD OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE, UH, ZDSO, THE ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ORDER, AND THESE, THE, OUR TEXT AMENDMENTS, AND IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO OUR ARTICLE I, I SECTION 1 0 6 DASH 2 31 SUB TWO. 
          AND THAT ADDS THE, UH, OLD SHELVING CHURCH ROAD TO THE CAR OVERLAY DISTRICT RECOMMENDS SECOND READING APPROVAL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MR. MC, ANY, THE LETTER WE GOT FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA SENIOR HIGHWAY COMMITTEE, UM, COMMITTEE, IT SAID THAT LAKE CRUE ROADS INTERSTATE WITH HIGHWAY 21. 
          DOES IT? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          NOT ON MY MAPS ENDING AT THE INTERSECTION. 
          WELL, DO THEY INTERSECT? I DON'T THINK THEY DO. 
          NO. 
          IT, IT, IT DOES NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S AN ERROR ON THEIR PART. 
          WE KNOW WHERE THE MAP IS. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST NOTICED THAT, AND I TRAVELED THROUGH THERE AND I DIDN'T RECALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S HIGHWAY US, UH, US HIGHWAY 21 AND 17 ON THE SOUTH AND EAST OF THE END END. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MAKE FOR SAY NO PROBLEM, THE NORTH WEST. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE SHOW YOU HAVE, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          ITEM 14. 
          ITEM 14, WE TOOK OFF AT, UH, THE LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND A DEAL WITH THE, UH,  MAP AIR INSTALLATION, COMPATIBLE ABUSE ZONE, DEALING WITH THE NOISE CONTOURS AND THE ACCIDENT POTENTIAL ZONE. 
          WHAT WE'RE, UH, RECOMMENDING TO YOU FOR APPROVAL ON FIRST READING IS AMENDMENT TO THE, UH, BEAUFORD COUNTY ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, ORDINANCE A, THE AIRPORT OVERLAY DISTRICT SECTION FOUR POINT 17 POINT 11, THE OFFICIAL MAP, AND THIS IS TO ADOPT THE UPDATED MAP SHOWING AIRPORT NOISE AND ACCIDENT POTENTIAL ZONES, APPLIC APPLICABLE TO THE MARINE CORPS STATION . 
          AND, UH, WHAT WE ARE SIMPLY DOING IS PUTTING INTO THAT AIRPORT OVERLAY THE MAP, WHICH IS CURRENT TRUE AND CORRECT AS OPPOSED TO THE OLDER ONE, WHICH HAS BEEN SUPERSEDED BY THIS ONE DATED 2003. 
          RECOMMENDED TO YOU FOR APPROVAL ON FIRST READING BY THE LAND MANAGER COMMITTEE. 
          RECOMMENDATION, UH, NO SECOND REQUIRED. 
          ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING OF FACTS. 
          MR. UH, HART, UH, ITEM NUMBER 15, UH, IS, YES, SIR. 
          I'M NOT GONNA ASK FOR A, A VOTE TODAY, EVEN THOUGH AS I READ THE MINUTES FROM THE COMMITTEE MEETING AND, UH, MR. LAMB ARGUED IN FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR VOTE TODAY, AND OTHERS, UH, DIDN'T, UH, I MADE THE CHOICE AND WITHOUT OBJECTION FOR MR. LAMB, I'M GONNA GIVE THIS TO YOU FOR INFORMATION AND ASK FOR, UH, A PERIOD OF TIME FOR AFFECTED PEOPLE TO, UH, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO QUESTION AND INQUIRE INTO, UH, TO THIS SUBJECT WITH THE, WITH THE PLANNING STAFF. 
          AND WHAT IT DEALS WITH IS TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE ZDSO AS IT PERTAINS TO ARTICLE I, SECTION 1 0 6 DASH SEVEN, EXEMPTIONS OF DEVELOPMENT TYPES IN THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AT THE LAST, UH, LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH. 
          IT HAS BEEN, UH, TAKEN UP BY THE LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS AS WE DEBATED THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. 
          THE, UH, THE EXEMPTIONS WAS DEBATED, DISCUSSED, AND REFINED OVER THE COURSE OF A NUMBER OF WEEKS. 
          UH, AS A RESULT OF THE SUBSTANCE CHANGES THAT WE MADE TO THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I CHOSE TO REFER THE DOCUMENTS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UH, AS I MENTIONED TO MR. HICKS THAT DAY IN THE LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING, THEY DID A BETTER JOB THAN WE DID AND MADE IT SIMPLER, CLEARER, AND MORE CONCISE AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND AND FOLLOW. 
          AND, UH, THEY RECOMMENDED IT BACK TO US. 
          IT WAS REVIEWED AT LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING AT OUR LAST TIME, AND, UH, WE ACCEPTED IT WITHOUT RESERVATION AND WITHOUT CHANGE, UH, WE COULD TAKE IT UP TO DATE. 
          UH, IF MR. LAMB, UH, REQUIRES THAT, OR WE COULD LET IT LAY ON THE TABLE FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS, GIVING THOSE WHO ARE AFFECTED BY 1 0 6 DASH SEVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO STUDY IT FURTHER AND ASK QUESTIONS. 
          I WILL DEFER TO MR. LAMB ON THAT POINT. 
          NO OBJECTION. 
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NO OBJECTION. 
          AND WE PRESENT IT TO YOU FOR INFORMATION AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. 
          UH, MR. BARNHART, UM, THE MATTER THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 14 AND WHAT WILL BE PRESENTED AT, UH, FOR THIRD READING YOU, YOU JUST INDICATED, HAS BEEN SENT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          I'M SORRY IF, IF I SAID THAT I MISSPOKE. 
          WE, WE SENT IT BACK BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD BECAUSE OF THE EXTENSIVE DRAMATICAL AND STRUCTURAL CHANGES WITHIN IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY THEN CLEANED UP WHAT WE HAD CLEANED UP AND SENT IT BACK TO US, SINCE IT IS NOW EXTREMELY CONDENSED RATHER THAN BRINGING IT TO YOU FOR THIRD AND FINAL READING TODAY. 
          AND IF I SAID ANOTHER NUMBER, I MADE A MISTAKE, BUT, UH, RATHER THAN BRING IT TO YOU FOR THIRD AND FINAL READING ON 1 0 6 DASH SEVEN TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE BY 1 0 6 DASH SEVEN TO BE ABLE TO INQUIRE AND COMMENT IF THEY, SO, CJ NO, AND I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I JUST WAS MERELY GETTING READY TO ASK SOME PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS IN ANTICIPATION OF JUNE 14TH. 
          UM, IF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I HEARD YOU SAY BETWEEN SECOND AND THIRD READING, MR. MCBRIDE, AM I CORRECT IN, UH, MY BELIEF THAT WHAT COMES FORWARD ON THIRD READING WILL BE THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS COUNSEL ON SECOND READING THE PURPO? WHAT, WHAT AMOUNTS TO A, AN AMENDMENT RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND RECOMMENDED BY OUR COUNCIL LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE THAT COMES FORWARD AT THIRD READING IN A PACKAGE TO HAVE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PASSED AT SECOND READING, THEN WITH COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AMENDMENTS? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND THEN THIRD READING. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE, A MINUTE ON TONY MADE SURE TO GET ALL THAT AMENDMENT MATERIAL, UM, AND THAT WE, WE KNOW THAT WE GOTTA GO THROUGH THAT STEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT, IT WILL STILL BE SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 14TH, PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 14TH, AND, UH, FOR THIRD AND SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THIRD AND FINAL READING. 
          UM, AND, UH, MR. BARNHART, BEFORE WE GET TO ITEM NUMBER 16, I MADE THE COMMENT REGARDING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UH, BUT WOULD DRAW THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION TO ITEM NUMBER NINE. 
          UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED. 
          ITEM NUMBER 10, UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED. 
          ITEM 11, PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED. 
          12, 13 AND 15. 
          UH, ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, JUNE 14TH, UH, AT THE LAR LARGE MEETING ROOM OF THE BLUFFTON LIBRARY. 
          ALRIGHT, SIR. 
          ITEM NUMBER 16. 
          HAVE WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, ON 16TH C? WE HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE. 
          THIRD REASON I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          MR. ELLO. 
          HELP ME OUT. 
          ITEM NUMBER 16 ON THE, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE ZDSO RELATIVE TO ADMINISTRATIVE BODIES AND AGENTS. 
          YES. 
          ARTICLE TWO AND ARTICLE THREE, ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES, THE STREAMLINING OF THE DESIGN AND REVIEW PROCESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          HAS THAT BEEN THROUGH PUBLIC READING? I SIMPLY DO NOT RECALL PUBLIC HEARING. 
          PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS STOPPED. 
          WE, WE WENT TO SECOND READING AND THEN THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE FROM, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT, UM, RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR SOME OF THE BOARDS THAT, THAT ARE PERTAINED TO ARTICLES TWO AND THREE. 
          AND, UH, I WAS DIRECTED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, WHICH I HAVE, AND I BROUGHT IT BACK TO YOU, ER, FOR THIRD AND FINAL READING WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, YES. 
          BUT IT WASN'T SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE TO HAVE PRIOR NOTICE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MARCH 22ND, 24TH, UH, PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD MARCH 22ND. 
          SECOND READING WAS MARCH 8TH. 
          PUBLIC HEARING WAS NOTICED AND HELD ON MARCH 22ND. 
          BUT DID MR. CRITO, DID I HEAR YOU SAY YOU INTENDED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS TONIGHT? NO, I'M JUST GOING ON THE AGENDA HERE. 
          IF THERE IS, IF IT'S LISTED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, THEN, THEN, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT I HEARD, I, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY YOU, YOU INTENDED THAT THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT. 
          THIRD AND FINAL READING, IT SAYS, I'M SORRY, USUALLY THIRD AND FINAL READING IS ACCOMPANIED BY A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          BUT IN THIS INSTANCE TONIGHT THAT, THAT LIES MY CONFUSION TELLING. 
          I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE HAD SATISFIED ALL OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE THIRD AND FINAL READING. 
          AND YOU ASSURE ME THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND IN THE INTERIM DAYS AND WEEKS, UH, HAVE YOU HAD ANY COMMENTARY FROM ANY CITIZEN IN YOUR OFFICE QUESTIONING THE CONTENTS OF 
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THIS? NO. 
          WOULD THE CHAIRMAN LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIRD READING OR SCHEDULE AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 14TH TO COVER THAT, UH, EVENTUALITY? UM, IS THERE A, IS THERE A, LEMME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. 
          IS THERE, HE SAID HE HAS NO COMMENT. 
          NO, NO. 
          IS THERE, UH, UH, ANY HARM IN WAITING? NO, SIR. 
          WE GOT SO MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE 14TH. 
          WE MIGHT AS WELL OUT. 
          I'VE GOT, UH, TWO CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN NOTED AND HANDED UP TO ME THAT I THINK ARE PURELY SYNTAX. 
          BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT I WAS GONNA HAND TO YOU, UH, IN TERMS OF WORDING, SOME INCONSISTENCIES IN THE ORDINANCE, WHERE IN SOME PLACES IT REFERS TO IT AS STAFF, ATTORNEY AND OTHER PLACES, COUNTY ATTORNEY, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, UH, ARE TO BE CONSISTENT. 
          SO, I MEAN, WHY DON'T WE JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, CARRY IT OVER AND SCHEDULE IT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          A SECOND ONE, MS. RAINEY AND THIRD AND FINAL READING AT OUR JUNE 14TH MEETING. 
          IS THAT ALL RIGHT, MR. BARNHART? PERFECT WITH ME. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND THIS NOTE HERE, I'LL PASS TO MR. ELLO FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU, TONY. 
          IT'S JUST IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. 
          I SAW IT THIS AFTERNOON WHEN I WAS READING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST A COUPLE PLACES WHERE THEY'RE REFERRED TO AS COUNTY ATTORNEY AND SOME PLACES STAFF ATTORNEY. 
          I MISSED IT BEFORE I SAW IT THIS AFTERNOON WHEN I READ IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ITEM NUMBER 16, UH, WE WILL CARRY OVER TO JUNE 14TH, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF HAVING A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND ITEM NUMBER 17, WE HAVE TAKEN UP, WHICH WAS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BUDGET OUT OF SEQUENCE EARLY SO THAT THE FOLKS FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID NOT HAVE TO WAIT AROUND. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          WEDNESDAY, JUNE NINE, BEGINNING AT 6:00 PM WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE LARGE MEETING ROOM OF THE HILTON HEAD LIBRARY. 
          AND THEN THURSDAY, JUNE 10, BEGINNING AT 6:00 PM HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, WE HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING RELATIVE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S BUDGET. 
          MS. GRIFFIN, I APOLOGIZE. 
          UH, I WANNA KNOW IF I COULD, UH, HAVE AN OFF AGENDA ITEM. 
          UH, THIS CAME TO ME JUST MINUTES BEFORE THIS, THIS MEETING. 
          AND WE REAL, WE HAVE TO, UH, FOR PROCEDURAL PURPOSES, HAVE THE FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY OF THIS THAT CAME BEFORE ME. 
          AND I'M GONNA PASS THIS DOWN TO YOU. 
          FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO AGREE WHETHER WE'RE GONNA DO THIS. 
          ALRIGHT, YOU, MS. GRIFFINS MADE A MOTION FOR AN OFF AGENDA ITEM. 
          IS THERE SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. 
          SECOND ABOUT, UH, MR. GENERAL AND OFF AGENDA ITEM IS NON DEBATABLE. 
          UM, I DUNNO WHAT IT'S, WHAT IS IT, BILL? OKAY. 
          IT IS BASICALLY ALRIGHT TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL, UM, AC ACCEPT HOUSE BILL, UM, 34 48, UH, 34 48 OF, UH, SOUTH CAR, SOUTH CAROLINA HOUSE BILL. 
          AND, UH, WE NEED TO DO, WE NEED TO DO THIS FOR US TO ACCEPT THE, THE, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING DOWN UPON US, BASICALLY. 
          AND IT, IT'LL BE, IT, IT WILL BE A, UM, IT WILL PROBABLY MEAN A CHANGE IN OUR HANDBOOK AND PERSONNEL MANUAL. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE MR. UBIC IS GONNA COME TO THE RESCUE. 
          ALRIGHT, LET, LET ME FIRST GET, DOES ANYBODY WANT ANY OTHER FURTHER EXPLANATION ON WHETHER TO VOTE ON THE, PURELY THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP AN OFF AGENDA ITEM, MR. UBIC EXPLANATION FIRST. 
          OKAY, MR. KUBIC, UH, COUNCILMAN GRIFFIN IS CORRECT. 
          UH, BASICALLY THE STATE LAW HAS CHANGED. 
          UH, THERE IS A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY BETWEEN NOW AND I BELIEVE JULY THE FIRST WHERE IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, WE PASS THIS, UH, UH, ORDINANCE ACCEPTING THE LAW CHANGE, WHICH BASICALLY RESCINDS, UH, OUR PREVIOUS COUNTY HANDBOOKS, AND ALLOWS US THEN TO RECREATE A NEW PATHWAY, A NEW A REINTRODUCTION, IF YOU WILL, WITH ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, UH, SO THAT THEY CAN ASSIGN ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS. 
          UM, AND WE CAN THEN RECREATE OUR HANDBOOK POLICY SO THAT IT WILL NOT BE INTERPRETED, UM, AS THE BILL INDICATES AS A CONTRACT, UM, IF WE HAND OUT THE, UH, COUNTY HANDBOOK. 
          BUT IT'LL BE MORE IN TERMS OF ADVISORY AND PROCEDURAL AND IDENTIFICATION OF POLICY, UH, WITH THE EMPLOYEE. 
          BUT CLEARLY IT WILL NOT THEN BE INTERPRETED AS AN EMPLOYEE CONTRACT. 
          AND SO THIS ALLOWS US TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE, PREVENT THAT POSSIBILITY, AND ALLOW US THEN TO RESURRECT A NEW PROCEDURE. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          WE'RE VOTING ON THE MOTION WHETHER TO TAKE UP AN OFF AGENDA ITEM, ALL IN FAVOR OF 
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APPROVAL, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING OF HANDS. 
          OKAY, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          NOW, MS. GRIFFIN, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION THAT COUNTY COUNSEL PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT DOES THE LAST PRACTICE, THE LAST LINE, EXCEPT AS PRACTICE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE OF BEAUFORT, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY TO IMPLEMENT SOUTH CAROLINA'S HOUSE BILL, UH, 34 48, I SUSPECT. 
          AND BY FOR TITLE ONLY. 
          THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL WE NEED AT THE PRESENT TIME. 
          AND THEN WE ALL HAVE ALL THE, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, MS. GRIFFIN'S MOTION IS FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY, UH, OF AN ORDINANCE THAT ADOPTS, UH, THE EFFECT OF HOUSE BILL 34 48 AS A PRACTICE WITHIN BU COUNTY. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? MR. GENERAL, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SIGNED INTO LAW BY THE GOVERNOR ON MARCH 15TH. 
          SO IT IS NO LONGER HOUSE BILL. 
          IT'S AN ORDINANCE, IT'S A STATUTE. 
          I JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER WAY TO REFER TO ANY OTHER DESCRIPTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MR. LAMB. 
          YEAH. 
          ANSWER MY QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ASK WHETHER THE D IS THE LAW. 
          NO, IT'S, IT, IT, IT'S, UH, IT'S GOTTA BE A STATUTE STATUTE HONOR. 
          THE LAST, THE LAST PARAGRAPH IN THIS ORDINANCE, PROPOSED ORDINANCE PRETTY MUCH CLARIFIES WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          YES. 
          UH, THAT'S GOOD. 
          SECOND TO THE LAST QUESTION. 
          EXCUSE I SECOND TO THE LAST, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, IT, IT SURE DOES. 
          UH, MR. UBIC, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. 
          WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE? JUNE 30TH, 2004 IS THE EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          UH, BUT I, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT, WELL, MR. GRIFFIN, YOUR UNDERSTANDING OR MR. KUBERT, YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR SHORT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY, WHAT, EXPLAIN THAT TO ME A LITTLE MORE. 
          I THINK PROCEDURALLY, UH, WITH THE PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE, UH, AND 'CAUSE IT REQUIRES FREE READINGS, UM, THERE'S A DEADLINE THAT WE ACCEPT AND ADOPT THE, UH, RULE OFF. 
          AND THEN THAT WILL ALLOW US THEN TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF HAVING ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ACKNOWLEDGE DECISION OF ANY PRIOR, UH, COUNTY HANDBOOK AND ALLOW, THEN WE CAN BEGIN, UH, THE NEW PROCESS OF, UH, THE NEW COUNTY HANDBOOK AND START THE PROCEDURE ALL OVER AGAIN. 
          I THINK THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW IS BASICALLY TO, UM, PREVENT ANY QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT PRIOR POLICY OR PRACTICE WOULD, UH, BE CONSTRUED OR INTERPRETED AS A CONTRACTOR. 
          AND, UH, THOSE TWO ARE CAPABILITY OF, UM, TERMINATION AND WILL AND EMPLOYMENT PROVISIONS. 
          AND SO, AS IT BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME, IS CRITICAL THAT WE GET THIS THROUGH TIMELY, UH, SO THAT WE PRESERVE THAT CAPABILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I, UH, BEAR WITH ME GUYS. 
          LEMME JUST EXPLORE ONE THING. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT, I JUST WAS CURIOUS THAT THIS LANGUAGE SAYS, UNDER THE NEW LAW AFTER JUNE 30TH, AN EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK, PERSONNEL MANUAL OR POLICY WILL NOT CREATE A CONTRACT OF EMPLOYMENT EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M, THIS SEEMS TO SUGGEST THAT JUNE 30TH, 2004, BEYOND THAT POINT, UH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR HANDBOOK SAYS, IT'S NOT AN IMPLIED CONTRACT IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          THAT'S WHY I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT IT IS WE HAVE TO DO BY THAT TIME. 
          I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. 
          UH, MARGARET, I JUST WAS CURIOUS FOR MR. KUBRICK'S UNDERSTANDING, BUT, AND IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED THAT AS A PROCEDURAL STEP SUBSEQUENT TO THIS PROCESS, MAYBE IF I THINK WE HAVE TO BEGIN THIS AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S EITHER, UM, ALL THE EMPLOYEES HAVE TO SIGN AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF RESCISSION OF ANY PRIOR ACTION BY US, WE'LL BE DISTRIBUTING THAT TO ALL 1100 EMPLOYEES, AND THEREFORE WE, WE CORRECT OR WE PREVENT OR PROHIBIT ANY POSSIBILITY THAT PRIOR ACTION AS A CONTRACT, IT'S, IT'S BEEN REPRIMANDED AS A PROCEDURAL STUFF FROM THE STATE, AND THE ATTORNEYS WE'RE JUST PASSING ALONG, AND I'M SORRY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GET IT THROUGH COMMUNITY EARLIER. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. BROWN, I MUST ADMIT , I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. 
          THIS LAW APPARENTLY IS PROSPECTIVE AND NOT RETROACTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT IT APPLIES TO EMPLOYEES ALREADY ON THE PAYROLL. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? UNLESS THEY WAIVE IT, SIR, THE, UM, CURRENTLY SOUTH CAROLINA IS AN AT WILL STATE. 
          APPARENTLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME LEGISLATION THAT PEOPLE ARE USING AS PRECEDENT TO, UM, GO AGAINST THE AT WILL, UM, STATUS OF THE STATE. 
          WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAS DONE IS IN A FORMAL LAW NOW CHANGE, SAY VERY SPECIFICALLY, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE OTHER CASES IN THE STATE WHICH HAVE GONE AGAINST AT WILL. 
          THE FACT IS THIS IS AN AT WILL STATE. 
          AND FROM JUNE 30TH ON, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BEEN AT WILL, BUT FROM JUNE 30TH ON, 
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THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NO WAY ANYONE'S GOING TO QUESTION THIS. 
          AND OUR LABOR ATTORNEYS AT THE FIRM WE HAVE IN COLUMBIA HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE, THE COUNTY COUNCIL EMBRACE THIS LAW, AND THAT AT THE SAME TIME, ONE JULY, WE INTRODUCE A NEW HANDBOOK AND HAVE ALL 1100 EMPLOYEES IN THE COUNTY SIGN. 
          UM, AND A STATEMENT OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS AN AT WILL STATE AND NOTHING IN THE HANDBOOK, UM, FORMS A CONTRACT OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          WELL, I, I MUST ADMIT THAT THIS IS, THE WHOLE PROCEDURE IS RATHER STRANGE. 
          IT'S EITHER PROSPECTIVE OR IT ISN'T. 
          IF IT'S PROSPECTIVE AND IT DOESN'T APPLY TO PEOPLE ALREADY ON THE PAYROLL BEFORE THIS DATE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SIGN ANYTHING, WHAT EFFECT WILL IT HAVE? UH, I KNOW , IF I WERE ON THE PAYROLL AND, UH, I WERE, UH, UH, THERE WAS AN IMPLIED CONTRACT, OF COURSE, I GOT A HANDBOOK. 
          WHY SHOULD I SIGN ANYTHING? I MEAN, UH, IF THIS IS A RIGHT I ALREADY HAD, THEN I STILL HAVE IT. 
          UH, IF IN EFFECT THIS STATUTE HAS A RETROACTIVE EFFECT, THEN WE DON'T NEED ANYBODY TO SIGN IT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THIS CONVOLUTED PROCEDURE. 
          IT'S EITHER ONE THING OR, OR OR THE OTHER. 
          AND, UH, AND FRANKLY, I, UH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UH, WHICH IT IS. 
          UH, WE GOT AN, OR WE GOT A STATUTE THAT SAYS IT'S, UH, THEY'RE NOT CONTRACT EMPLOYEES. 
          THEY'RE AT WILL. 
          AND, UH, AND, UH, IT E EITHER APPLIES TO EVERYBODY OR IT APPLIES TO PEOPLE HIRED AFTER THAT DATE. 
          BUT FOR THOSE PEOPLE ALREADY ON THE PAYROLL, UH, AND DON'T WANNA SIGN ANY RELEASE THAT THEY'RE NOT CONTRACT EMPLOYEES, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES? CHAIRMAN, MR. MCBRIDE? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          I, FROM THE PRELIMINARY OF, OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY. 
          AND I FOLLOW LITTLE BEFORE BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE LEGISLATURE SOMETIME ABOUT, I THINK CERTAIN CODES WERE INTERPRETING HANDBOOKS AS CONTRACTS, RIGHT? AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE THIS WHOLE ISSUE CAME, CAME ABOUT FROM. 
          BUT MY CONCERN IS IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN THE HANDBOOK AND THE EMPLOYEES CAN'T RELY ON WHAT'S WRITTEN IN THE HANDBOOK, THAT, TO ME, SEEMED TO BE VERY UNFAIR. 
          YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL POINT OF VIEW. 
          IF, IF, IF SOMEONE WRITES IN THE HANDBOOK DISTRIBUTED TO THE EMPLOYEES, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO RELY ON THAT, WHATEVER THAT HANDBOOK SAYS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MCBRIDE. 
          MR. STEWART. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, I FOLLOWED THIS BILL A LITTLE BIT TOO, AND I THINK THE WAY I VIEW THIS IS THAT IF THE LAW IS AN AT WILL STATE AS IT IS NOW, AND THIS CLARIFIES THIS, THE PURPOSE OF THE CLARIFICATION IS TO, UH, MINIMIZE OR ELIMINATE FRIVOLOUS LITIGATION AND CONFLICT TO THE EXTENT WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN DOING THAT, I THINK THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZEN. 
          I HAVEN'T REVIEWED THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS SITTING UP HERE ON THIS DAY HAVE, I'M NOT SURE WE ACT UPON IT AND SEND IT OUT. 
          I'M HOPEFUL THAT THE FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN CHARGED WITH DRAFTING THOSE THINGS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EVERY POSSIBLE, UH, CONCERN THAT MIGHT REFLECT ON THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS WE REPRESENT, AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEES. 
          BUT AS A MATTER OF CAUTION, JUST IN CASE THAT HASN'T BEEN THE CASE IN THE LAST 10 TO 15 TO 20 YEARS, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CLARIFYING THAT AND MAKING SURE EVERYBODY IS ON A, UH, SIMILAR STANDING. 
          AND I SUSPECT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. 
          IF THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE'LL HAVE TWO MORE CHANCES TO LOOK AT IT. 
          BUT, UH, I'M NEW HERE, AND IF OTHER FOLKS FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE POSSIBLE EXISTENCE OF HANDBOOKS THAT GO BACK SO MANY YEARS THAN I DO, I'D BE HAPPY TO BE PERSUADED TO MY CONCERN AS ILL FOUND. 
          THANK YOU, MR. STEWART. 
          MR. GLADSON, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, PROPOSED ORDINANCE HERE, AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE THIRD, UH, PARAGRAPH, WHICH I'M NOT GONNA READ, BUT, UM, I'M KIND OF ABSTAIN FROM THIS BOOK TODAY ON, UH, PRESENTING THIS BECAUSE I, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE AN UNFAIR PROCEDURE AS I'M CONCERNED RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO UNTIL I GET SOME MORE INFORMATION, I WON'T VOTE ON IT, BUT, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, BILL. 
          MR. GLAS? YES. 
          UM, PRIOR TO, I, I KNOW THAT, UM, IT SEEMED LIKE IT MAY BE A GOOD THING IF IT HAD THE RIGHT AGENDA, UH, IN BEAUTIFUL COUNTY. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM, FIRED WITHOUT A HANDBOOK. 
          SO I THINK IF YOU WERE TO LET THEM SIGN OFF ON SUCH HANDBOOK AND, UH, INDIVIDUALS WOULD BECOME TO, TO BE OF NITPICKING AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE COUNTY, UH, MY QUESTION IS, IN THIS SITUATION THERE, WHO WOULD ACTUALLY DO THE FINE? IS IT ADMINISTRATOR, THE SUPERVISOR? DOES IT FOLLOW A PARTICULAR CHAIN? AND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS? SAY, HOW DOES THIS WORK? MR. CLAY? LEMME TAKE A SHOT AT THAT. 
          AND, AND NOW, AS, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE, WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING, UH, IN TERMS OF 
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THIS ORDINANCE IS PURELY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND I'M, I'M WATCHING MS. SHIELDS AND LISTENING TO YOU, IS THAT OUR LABOR COUNCIL IN COLUMBIA HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE IMPACT AND THE TRIGGER OF THE LAW SIGNED INTO EFFECT BY GOVERNOR SANFORD, UH, WHICH AFFIRMS THE, WHAT HAS BEEN THE LAW IN THIS STATE, UH, AS SOUTH CAROLINA BEING AN AT WILL, UH, EMPLOYMENT STATE. 
          OUR SUPREME COURT HAS, UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS OF COMMON LAW, THROUGH CASE LAW BE BEGUN TO CHANGE THAT SLIGHTLY AND SAY, WELL, IF YOU HAVE A HANDBOOK, YOU HAVE AN IMPLIED CONTRACT. 
          AND THEN THE COURT, IN OUR SPRINGS INDUSTRY CASE IN SOUTH CAROLINA WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE COURT RULED THAT A HANDBOOK ACTUALLY, UM, ROSE TO THE LEVEL OF IMPLYING A EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT. 
          OKAY? UM, BUT THE, THE, THE COURTS THEN LAID DOWN A REQUIREMENT THAT WE PUT DISCLAIMERS ON THE HANDBOOKS. 
          AND WE, I KNOW WE HAVE, BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS A DISCLAIMER ON OUR HANDBOOK THAT SAYS WE ARE AN AT WILL EMPLOYMENT. 
          HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL OF THE PROCEDURES IN THE HANDBOOK. 
          WE HAVE DUE PROCESS REQUIREMENTS BY THE CONSTITUTION THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THAT HANDBOOK. 
          CORRECT? BUT IT, THAT HANDBOOK DOES NOT CHANGE A COUNTY EMPLOYEE'S STATUS. 
          ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES EXCEPT FOR TWO AS, UH, AT WILL EMPLOYEES. 
          AND THOSE TWO EMPLOYEES, THE ONLY TWO THAT HAVE CONTRACTS WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY, ARE YOU AND MS. GOLDEN. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, MR. COOPER? YES. 
          EVERYBODY ELSE'S AN AT WHEEL. 
          THIS ISN'T ANYTHING OTHER THAN A REAFFIRMATION OF THE LAW. 
          SO I'M TOLD, AND TONIGHT WE'RE DOING THIS, UH, BY TITLE ONLY, BUT IF LINDA EDWARDS AND HER LAW FIRM HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO THIS PROCEDURALLY, AND WE'RE DOING THIS TONIGHT, FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY, WE OUGHT TO GET A HANDOUT FOR EVERY MEMBER OF COUNCIL AS TO WHY THEY'VE RECOMMENDED WHAT IT IS THEY'RE RECOMMENDING, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT DISTRIBUTED SO THAT ALL THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS, UM, ARE ANSWERED. 
          BUT ALL, ALL THIS WILL BE DONE. 
          BUT IT WAS JUST A TIME FACTOR THAT WE NEED, NEEDED TO HAVE THE, THIS DATE AS THE, UH, THE READING OF TI BY TITLE. 
          BUT MR. GLAS, THIS ACTION TONIGHT DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF WHO DOES THE HIRING AND WHO DOES THE FIRING WITHIN THE COUNTY SYSTEM. 
          THAT IS NOT CHANGED WHATSOEVER BY WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. 
          AND IN FACT, WHAT WE ARE DOING TONIGHT IS NOT CONTRARY TO EXISTING STATE LAW. 
          IT IS ACTUALLY, UH, IN ACCORD WITH EXISTING STATE LAW. 
          IS THAT CORRECT, MS. HARRISON? AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT? WELL, WHEN WE DO THIS HANDBOOK, WILL ALL EMPLOYEES BE REQUIRED TO SIGN THIS NEW HANDBOOK? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          PROBABLY REQUIRED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF NOT, MR. GENERAL, I THINK MAYBE A BETTER WAY OF SAYING THIS IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING BY PASSING THIS IS PRESERVING CURRENT LAW, CURRENT STATUS, MS. HAIRSTON, ALL CURRENT EMPLOYEES THAT ALL EMPLOYEES NOW HAVE SIGNED ON THE HANDBOOK, ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT OUR PROCEDURES ARE, RIGHT? ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE, WITHIN A GIVEN DEPARTMENT, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE A DRESS CODE, A DISCIPLINARY CODE, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT THEIR EMPLOYMENT STATUS IS. 
          I MEAN, THEY, THEY, IT'S NOT AS IF THEY'RE SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT WILL EMPLOYEES AND AFTER SIGNING THIS, THAT THEY WILL BE AT BE CONTINUE TO BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN I WILL, MR. PRESERVING THE CURRENT STEPS. 
          BUT IN ANY EVENT, TONIGHT'S FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY, UM, IT'S RECOMMENDED BY OUR LABOR ATTORNEYS, AND WE GET MORE INFORMATION ON SECOND READING. 
          THIS IS A PROCEDURAL MATTER RELATIVE TO MEET A SCHEDULING TIME. 
          MR. GLAZE, I, I'VE NOTICED YOU OUTTA THE CORNER OF MY EYE. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION OR NO? I WAS JUST, UH, THINKING THE SIGNING MEAN, UH, WHICH I, MAX  QUESTION THAT THEY RECEIVE IT OR THEY UNDERSTAND IT? NO, THEY RECEIVED IT. 
          COPY. 
          THEY RECEIVED, IT'S AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OVER RECEIPT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I RECEIVED IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I, MR. BROWN, UH, , FRANKLY, I, I, I SEE THIS AS A VERY IMPRACTICAL APPROACH. 
          UH, UH, THE STATUTE IS PASSED. 
          IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT, OR REAFFIRM THAT THEY'RE AT WILL AND NOT CONTRACT EMPLOYEES. 
          NOW WE WANT PEOPLE TO SIGN AND SAY, YES, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT MAY BE GREAT FOR US AS A COUNTY, AND, BUT IT'S GRATUITOUS AND, UH, AND THAT IT MAY CREATE MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN IT SOLVES REQUIRING THAT AN EMPLOYEE SIGN SOMETHING. 
          UH, SOME, SOME ARE NOT GONNA SIGN IT. 
          AND, UH, UH, FRANKLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LABOR LAWYER'S ADVICE THAT WE GET EVERYBODY TO SIGN IT. 
          WELL, MR. B BRADMAN, ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU IS THERE'S NOTHING GONNA HAPPEN WITH ANY COUNTY EMPLOYEE BETWEEN TONIGHT AND THE NEXT TIME WE VISIT THIS ON SECOND READING. 
          SO ALL WE'RE GONNA DO TONIGHT IS MOVE IT FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEYS HAVE SUGGESTED THAT THERE'S A TIMING ISSUE, MR. KUBICK. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND WE'LL GET A FULL EXPLANATION OF THIS PRIOR TO THE TIME THAT WE HAVE, THAT ANY COUNTY EMPLOYEE HAS TO SIGN ANYTHING OR IS REQUESTED TO SIGN ANYTHING, 
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AND WE'LL GET THAT DONE. 
          MR. LAMB? YES. 
          MAY I SUGGEST THAT WE GATHER TOGETHER THE MATERIAL AND THE MATTER BE REFERRED TO MARGARET'S, UH, COMMITTEE TO BE AIRED OUT? ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL WANTS TO ATTEND THAT COMMITTEE MEETING CAN COME TO IT AND WE CAN CHEW ON IT. 
          UH, BUT IN ANY EVENT, I WOULD ASK CALL QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LAMB. 
          QUESTION, HAVING BEEN CALLED, IT'S FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE OFF AGENDA ITEM, UH, WHICH IS, UH, AN ORDINANCE, UH, AS RECOMMENDED BY OUR COUNTY AS LABOR COUNCIL, UH, THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY FULLY SUPPORTS, UH, THE LAW THAT BECAME EFFECTIVE MARCH 15TH, 2004, UH, AS THE PRACTICE WITHIN BEAUFORT COUNTY, PLEASE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING THE PANTS OPPOSED. 
          AND ANY ABSTENTIONS? OKAY. 
          DID YOU GET THOSE, MS. RAINEY, MR. KUBERT, UH, LET FIND OUT WHAT THE, THE WILL OF COUNSEL IS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOUR PRESENTATION IS GONNA TAKE. 
          WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BEFORE, SIR? WE GET YES, SIR. 
          WHAT? MR. LAMB? DID I HEAR? YES, SIR. 
          WE'LL STAND IN RECESS FOR ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES. 
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 I, IN YEARS PAST WHEN I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER BUDGETS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, WE LITERALLY STRESSED, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, PROJECT FOR THE NEW YEAR. 
          AND THEN THAT DROVE OBVIOUSLY THE EXPENDITURE LEVEL. 
          UH, LAST WEEK OR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, I ASKED COUNSEL TO ALLOW ME TO POSTPONE THE PRESENTATION OF THE, OF MAY 17TH, UH, IN ORDER TO CLEARLY DEFINE OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR THE YEAR 2005. 
          AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT, UH, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT WHAT WE FEEL IS A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE REVENUE CAPABILITIES IN TERMS OF GROWTH FOR THIS COUNTY, UH, WHICH IS A LARGE NUMBER AND HAS A VERY, UM, UH, IMPACTS CLEARLY, UH, COUNCIL'S PARAMETERS THAT WERE PLACED ON US BY THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND COUNCILMAN GENERAL. 
          AND I BELIEVE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE, THAT NO NEW TAX INCREASE WOULD BE A PART OF THIS BUDGET PRESENTATION. 
          THE IMPORTANCE OF, UH, THE REVENUE GROWTH FACTOR AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF NO NEW TAX INCREASE THEN AS COMPARED TO THE ABILITY AND BALANCE OF REVENUE TO EXPENDITURES IN ORDER TO ENSURE PROPER PUBLIC SERVICE, THE PROPER DELIVERY OF PUBLIC SERVICE. 
          AND SO THAT WAS THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD, UH, WITH OUR STAFF. 
          I'M PLEASED TO, UH, INDICATE THAT, UH, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM US TONIGHT, UH, IS A BUDGET THAT HAS NO NEW TAX INCREASES IN IT. 
          WE DO WANNA REMIND THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT BECAUSE OF THE REASSESSMENT CHANGE, UH, AND THOSE WHO HAVE THEIR VALUATION GO UP, UH, MAY PAY MORE TAX, BUT WE WANT TO REMIND THEM THAT IT'S CLEARLY NOT AS A RESULT OF WHAT COUNSEL WILL CONSIDER. 
          UM, NOR IS IT A RESULT OF WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF THE 2005 BUDGET. 
          IF YOU RECALL AT THE RETREAT, UM, WE DISCUSSED SEVERAL GOALS WITH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS. 
          ONE THAT IS NOT VERY MUCH, UH, DISCUSSED IN THE PROCESS WITH THE GENERAL COMMUNITY, BUT HAS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE, AND THAT IS THE CASH RESERVE. 
          AND WHAT IS THE PROPER LEVEL OF CASH RESERVES THAT WE NEED TO, UM, MAINTAIN, UH, IN ORDER TO DO SEVERAL THINGS 
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AT THE RETREAT, WE WANTED TO, UH, GROW THOSE CASH RESERVES. 
          AND AT THE RETREAT, IF YOU RECALL, THAT NUMBER WAS 2.5 MILLION. 
          AND THE ISSUE WAS WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPER AMOUNT OF CASH RESERVE THAT WE SHOULD MAINTAIN FOR A COUNTY OF OUR TYPE SO THAT WE WOULD BE VIEWED BY THE BOND RATING SERVICES IN NEW YORK AS A COUNTY THAT WOULD HAD A STRONG, UH, NET WORTHINESS THAT WOULD, UH, BE ABLE TO STRENGTHEN OUR BOND RATING, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A DOUBLE A, WHICH OBVIOUSLY TRANSLATES INTO OUR CAPABILITIES OF THE CIP AND OTHER BOND ISSUES THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. 
          WITH THAT AS A GOAL, UH, TOM AND I BEGAN TO DISCUSS WHAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT, OR HOW WOULD WE DETERMINE WHAT MATHEMATICAL FORMULA WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT WE COULD TARGET A CASH RESERVE. 
          TYPICALLY, UM, OUR GOAL, WE FELT SHOULD BE SEVEN TO 10%. 
          THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO HAVE BEFORE YOU REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 5% OF A CASH RESERVE, OR AN INCREASE FROM THE BASE OF 2.5 MILLION TO A NEW TOTAL OF 3.5, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE CASH RESERVE, UNFORTUNATELY. 
          BUT IN REAL DOLLARS, UH, THIS BUDGET ALSO REPRESENTS, UH, 500,000. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE WERE SHOOTING FOR 4 MILLION, TWO AND A HALF TO FOUR, UM, BUT WITH THE RESTRAINT OF NO NEW TAXES AND THE DEMANDS ON EXPENDITURES, WE'RE PUMPING IN ABOUT 500,000. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA NET OUT A 3.5, WHICH IS A GROWTH FACTOR OF 1 MILLION THAT GETS US TO 5%, AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE AT THAT 7% AND BEYOND. 
          ONE OTHER REMINDER THAT A CASH RESERVE NOT ONLY, UH, IS IMPORTANT FOR, UH, OUR BONDING CAPABILITY, BUT IS CLEARLY THERE FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES AS WELL. 
          AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT THOSE KINDS OF, UH, NATURAL DISASTERS OR OTHER THINGS THAT MAY OCCUR IN THE DAILY CYCLE OF THE BUDGETARY PROCESS EACH DAY HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AIRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND BEING COMMITTED TO BUILD THAT CASH RESERVE IS A VERY IMPORTANT PRACTICE THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW. 
          SO WITH THAT, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO ADHERE TONIGHT, OKAY, ONTO THE GROWTH FACTOR. 
          WITHIN THAT EXTRA 10 DAYS THAT YOU SO GRACIOUSLY ALLOWED ME TO HAVE, UH, TOM AND BERNICE, UH, SAT DOWN AND BEGAN TO REVIEW THE FIGURES, MY CHALLENGE TO THEM WAS BASICALLY I WANTED TO HAVE A NUMBER THAT I COULD PRESENT TO YOU THAT HAD A LEVEL OF COMFORTABILITY AND CONFIDENCE THAT WE COULD CLEARLY ASCERTAIN. 
          NOW, WE HAD MOVED OR BEGAN WITH ABOUT 800 TO 900,000, THE NUMBER WE'RE NOW USING AND INCREASED BY ABOUT 2.1 MILLION, I BELIEVE, FOR A TOTAL GROWTH FACTOR OF 3 MILLION. 
          THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND WITHOUT THAT NUMBER, AND WITHOUT THAT, UH, CAPABILITY, UH, THIS BUDGET TONIGHT WOULD'VE HAD AN ENTIRELY, UH, DIFFERENT PICTURE, UH, THAN IT HAS TONIGHT. 
          I'D LIKE TO, UM, IN OUR SLIDE PRESENTATION, UM, HAVE TOM CLEARLY GO OVER CAREFULLY EXACTLY WHAT THOSE REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE. 
          WE'RE GONNA START NOW WITH THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS, UM, AND I'VE ASKED TOM TO BE AS DETAILED AS AS HE COULD BE, UH, SO THAT BOTH YOU AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTAND AND KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE REVENUE, UH, PROJECTIONS. 
          TOM, GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR TOTAL REVENUE PROJECTED FOR THE CURRENT, UH, OR THE REQUESTED FISCAL YEAR IS $64,900,000. 
          THIS IS APPROXIMATELY A, UM, $3 MILLION INCREASE OVER THE REVISED BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, TAXES GO UP. 
          THIS IS DUE TO THE GROWTH FACTOR AND, UH, THE FORMULA RELATIVE TO A REASSESSMENT. 
          AND AS, UH, GARY INDICATED WE DO NOT, UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, THERE IS NO TAX INCREASE PROPOSED. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR TAXES ARE LICENSES AND PERMITS DECREASE BY APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION, UH, $200,000. 
          THIS IS DUE TO, UM, THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROGRAM. 
          WE HAD PROJECTED, UH, MAKING SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE FEES, UH, DURING THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WOULD CARRY OVER INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          UH, HOWEVER, UH, BASED ON SOME OF THE ISSUES IN THE ECONOMY, WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GONNA LEAVE THAT ALONE FOR THE CURRENT PERIOD, AND THAT CARRIES 
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OVER INTO NEXT YEAR AS WELL, UH, IN A GOVERNMENTAL REVENUES. 
          THESE ARE STATE SHARED REVENUES FROM THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, AND THEY ARE RELATIVELY FLAT. 
          I THINK THERE'S A TOTAL INCREASE THERE OF JUST UNDER $10,000. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR CHARGES FOR SERVICES REVENUE INCREASES BY APPROXIMATELY 400,000. 
          UH, THIS IS LARGELY DUE TO, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THE PRESENTATION EARLIER THIS EVENING, THE REGISTER OF DEEDS, UH, WITH THE REAL ESTATE ACTIVITY, UH, GOING ON WITHIN THE COUNTY, THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN FEES, UH, GENERATED, UH, BY THAT ACTIVITY AND, UH, WE'RE THE BENEFICIARY OF THOSE FEES AND OF THAT ACTIVITY. 
          THERE ALSO IS A PROJECTED INCREASE IN THINGS LIKE SUCH AS EMS CHARGES FOR THE CURRENT YEAR. 
          THE SHERIFF'S CONTRACT WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, AND OTHER VARIOUS, UH, ITEMS THAT FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY, UH, MINOR INCREASES. 
          THOSE ARE THE THREE MAJORS, REGISTER OF DEEDS, EMS AND SHERIFF, UH, THE FINES AND FORFEITURES. 
          UH, WE ARE PROJECTING ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2005 THAN IN FISCAL YEAR 2004. 
          THIS IS DUE TO A BETTER PROJECTION, UH, BASED ON, IF YOU WOULD, THE ACTUAL ACTIVITY DURING 2004, CARRYING THAT FORWARD WITH A, WITH A CLEANER ESTIMATE FOR 2005. 
          OUR INTEREST, UH, IS PROJECTED AT APPROXIMATELY $200,000 LESS, UH, WITH LESS MONEY IN THE FUND BALANCE AND INTEREST RATES AT THE LEVEL THAT THEY ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE REALLY DO NOT PROJECT AN AWFUL LOT OF INTEREST, AND CERTAINLY NOT GROWTH IN THAT LINE ITEM, UH, MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES THAT BASICALLY CONSISTS OF OUR SALE OF SURPLUS PROPERTIES. 
          UH, LIKEWISE, WE DO COLLECT SOME RENT FROM, UH, DIS DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES FOR THEIR UTILIZATION OF THE BUILDING. 
          AND WE ALSO COLLECT RENTS FOR THE VARIOUS TOWERS THAT WE OWN AND OPERATE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          THE OTHER FINANCING SOURCES, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT'S JUST A, A MINOR INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY, UH, $3,000. 
          THAT IS A TRANSFER FROM THE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX. 
          UH, STATE 2% FUND THAT IS STATUTORY IN NATURE IN THAT, UH, THE FIRST $25,000 OF ACCOMMODATIONS TAX GOES TO THE COUNTY GENERAL FUND, PLUS 5% OF ANY MONIES OVER THAT, UH, ALSO REVERT BACK TO THE COUNTY GENERAL FUND. 
          LIKEWISE, THE FORMULA ALSO CALLS FOR 30% OF THOSE DOLLARS TO GO TO THE DESIGNATED TOURISM PROMOTION AGENCY WITHIN THE COUNTY. 
          AND LASTLY, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE PROJECTED THE USE OF $500,000 WORTH OF FUND BALANCE. 
          AND, UH, THIS, AGAIN, AS GARY HAS INDICATED, UH, WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THE GOAL OF GETTING TOWARDS A 7%, UH, INCREASE, OR 7% FUND BALANCE. 
          UH, THIS IS A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION AND, UH, IT'S AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS TOWARDS THAT STATED GOAL. 
          WE SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE VARIOUS, UH, FUNCTIONS OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT. 
          UH, THE, THE EXPENDITURE AND TRANSFERS BROKEN OUT. 
          UH, THOSE ARE GENERAL GOVERNMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC WELFARE, CULTURAL. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE IDENTIFIED VARIOUS TRANSFERS FOR THE SHERIFF'S PROGRAM. 
          UM, THOSE ARE PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE VICTIM'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THE, UH, SCHOOL, UM, RESOURCE OFFICERS, AND OTHER PROGRAMS OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          THE OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY IS, UH, SOME MATCH DOLLARS FOR SOME, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT BLOCK GRANTS, AS WELL AS AN EMS, UH, DEC GRANT. 
          THEN THEY TRANSFER TO DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS, THE TRANSFER TO ALCOHOL AND DRUG, UH, THOSE ARE TO SUPPORT THOSE PROGRAMS. LIKEWISE, THE TRANSFER FOR PUBLIC WELFARE. 
          THIS IS LARGELY FOR THE, UH, OPERATION OF THE DUSKY FERRY, AS WELL AS OUR FAMILY, UH, GROUP CONFERENCING PROGRAM THAT'S RUN THROUGH THE COZY OFFICE. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, THE TRANSFER TO PALS OF, UH, $3 MILLION. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S OUR PARKS AND LEISURE SERVICES PROGRAM. 
          TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER DEFINITION OF THAT, THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS THE COURTS, THE GENERAL ADMINISTRATION OF THE COUNTY. 
          UH, PUBLIC SAFETY CONSISTS OF SHERIFF AND OUR OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY FUNCTIONS, SUCH AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COMMUNICATIONS, EMS DETENTION 
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CENTER, PUBLIC WORKS. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S SOMEWHAT SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          THAT'S OUR BUILDING AND GROUNDS MAINTENANCE, AS WELL AS THE VARIOUS ROADS AND DRAINAGE PROGRAMS. AND INCLUDED IN THAT IS THE CONTINUED SUBSIDY FOR THE STORMWATER UTILITY PROGRAM. 
          UH, THE PUBLIC. 
          WE, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, ISSUES ARE RELATIVE TO OUR MOSQUITO CONTROL, AS WELL AS THE ANIMAL CONTROL. 
          AND, UH, SUBSIDIES TO, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AS WELL AS COASTAL EMPIRE MENTAL HEALTH. 
          PUBLIC WELFARE, UH, CONSISTS OF OUR, UH, DISABILITY, UH, EXCUSE ME, OUR, UH, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, AS WELL AS THE, UH, DEPARTMENT FOR THE VETERANS AFFAIRS. 
          AND THE CULTURAL CONSISTS OF THE LIBRARY THAT BASICALLY COVERS THE, THE DOLLAR SIDE. 
          AND IF WE MOVE TO THE NEXT, UH, GRAPHIC SLIDE, I DON'T HAVE ANY AMUSING NOISES AS JACK, SO OTHER THAN PERHAPS MY STOMACH RUMBLE, UH, RIGHT HERE WE HAVE THE, UH, IF YOU WOULD, THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND THE SOURCES OF REVENUES FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2005. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE LARGEST COMPONENT OF OUR REVENUE SOURCES ARE TAXES, WHICH ARE A LITTLE OVER 70%. 
          UH, OUR LICENSES AND PERMITS IS APPROXIMATELY 4%. 
          UH, CHARGE INTERGOVERNMENTAL IS 9% CHARGE FOR SERVICES, 13.8%, UH, FINES APPROXIMATELY 1.3. 
          AND FINALLY, THE INTEREST IN OTHER CATEGORIES, AND THAT INCLUDES THE FUND BALANCE CONTRIBUTION OF 1.4%. 
          THE, UH, NEXT SLIDE HERE IS THE 2004 REVENUES. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SAME, UH, GRAPHIC DEPICTION. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THE TAXES REPRESENTED, REPRESENTED 67.3% OF OUR REVENUES IN 2004. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS 2003 REVENUES, AND YOU'LL SEE THE TAXES REPRESENTED 66, UM, 0.2% OF OUR REVENUES IN, IN, UH, 2003. 
          NOW, WE GO ON TO THE FUNCTIONS OF GENERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          AS WE, UH, DISCUSSED JUST BRIEFLY A WHILE AGO, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT COMPONENT IS APPROXIMATELY 24.5% OF OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES. 
          UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS 24% OF OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES AS WELL. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS 22.8%, AND THAT, OBVIOUSLY IS EXCLUDING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. 
          SO THOSE THREE AREAS COMPRISED THE LARGEST BULK OF OUR, UH, IF YOU WOULD, SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS. 
          AGAIN, WE HAVE 11.7% IN THE PUBLIC WORKS, 5.3% INTO, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          UH, PUBLIC WELFARE IS, UH, 1.2, AND THE, UH, IF YOU WOULD, CULTURAL AND RECREATION IS 9.8. 
          NOW, ON THIS SLIDE, I'VE INCLUDED THE PALS PROGRAM AS PART OF CULTURAL AND RECREATION. 
          I'VE ALSO INCLUDED DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS AND ALCOHOL AND DRUG AS PART AND PARCEL OF PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, SINCE THOSE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH. 
          NEXT ONE SHOWS THE SAME, UH, FUNCTIONAL CATEGORIES BROKEN OUT FOR 2004. 
          AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, THE BIG THREE ARE OBVIOUSLY GENERAL GOVERNMENT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AGAIN, THESE REPRESENT ALMOST 70% OF OUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES. 
          AND AGAIN, THE SAME DEPICTION FOR 2003. 
          UH, SHOWING AGAIN, THOSE THREE CATEGORIES. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE WE TOOK AND BROKE OUT THE, UH, EXPENDITURES BY CATEGORY. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, WE BROKE THEM OUT INTO THE VARIOUS, UH, EXPENDITURE CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE USE. 
          THOSE ARE PERSONNEL COSTS, PURCHASE SERVICES, SUPPLIES, CAPITAL. 
          AND OTHER, OTHER WOULD INCLUDE, IF YOU WOULD, THE COUNTY COUNCIL CONTINGENCIES, THE COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, SUBSIDIES TO OUTSIDE PROGRAMS. THE STORMWATER UTILITY, UH, SUBSIDY AND PERSONNEL INCLUDES, IF YOU WOULD, ALL PERSONNEL COSTS, NOT ONLY WAGES AND SALARIES, BUT ALSO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, FOR 2005, OUR PERSONNEL COSTS REPRESENT OVER 70% OF THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF THE COUNTY. 
          AND, AND PURCHASE 
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SERVICES REPRESENT ABOUT 18, UH, 0.7%. 
          THAT, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THINGS SUCH AS POSTAGE, TELEPHONE, UH, GARAGE REPAIRS, AND OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, ET CETERA. 
          UH, MOVING ON TO 2004, YOU'LL AGAIN SEE THAT, UH, PERSONNEL, UH, REPRESENTS 69.4% AND THE OTHER CATEGORIES, UH, AS SHOWN. 
          AND AGAIN, 2003, UH, WE HAVE THE SAME DEPICTION WITH SALARIES REPRESENTED 67.4%. 
          UH, AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A HEADS UP, WE'LL POST ALL OF THIS TO THE WEBSITE TOMORROW AFTER DISCUSSION, UH, WITH Y'ALL THIS EVENING, AND MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS IF Y'ALL DECIDE TO Y'ALL WANT TO MAKE ANY, UH, THIS EVENING. 
          ALSO, UH, NOT IN THE, UH, THE SLIDE, UH, SHOW, BUT ALSO, UM, IN YOUR BOOKLET, THERE'S DETAILS WITH REGARDS TO THE SOLID WASTE RECYCLING PROGRAM. 
          AGAIN, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT PROGRAM WILL BE FUNDED, UH, BY THE TAX LEVY THAT WE LEVY FOR THAT PROGRAM WITH NO TAX INCREASE. 
          UH, AS, AS WE STATED EARLIER, WE ALSO HAVE A TAX LEVY RELATIVE TO THE REAL PROPERTY PROGRAM. 
          AGAIN, UH, THIS IS, THIS WAS SCHEDULED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AS TWO MILLS NOW. 
          THE NUMBER OF MILLS WILL BE REDUCED THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THE ROLLBACK RELATIVE TO THE REASSESSMENT. 
          HOWEVER, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WILL BE CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THE ROLLBACK COMPUTATIONS, AND WILL SHOW INCREASED REVENUE FOR THAT PROGRAM OF APPROXIMATELY 150, UH, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, YEAH, ABOUT $150,000. 
          AGAIN, THE SAME IS TRUE WITH OUR INDIGENT CARE PROGRAM AND, UH, FUNDING THE, UH, MANDATED STATE, UM, MEDICALLY INDIGENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE JA, UH, BEAUFORT, JASPER HAMPTON COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH, AND THE, UH, BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL REQUEST, AS WELL AS THE VOLUNTEERS IN MEDICINE, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT, UH, ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN CHANGED TO, UH, COMMUNITY CARING FOR CHILDREN, UH, AND THE CONTINUING EDUCATION, AGAIN, WE HAVE PROJECTED, UH, GROWTH IN THAT AREA AS WELL, AND HAVE, UH, ANTICIPATED THAT THE FOUR MILLS WOULD BE ROLLED BACK IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPUTATIONS UNDERNEATH THE, UH, REASSESSMENT. 
          THAT WAS, THAT WAS PRETTY QUICK. 
          UM, AND, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IN THIS BUDGET, UH, WAS THAT WE HAVE BUILT IN A, UH, 2% COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES. 
          WE LIKEWISE HAVE FUNDED A RATHER SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR GROUP INSURANCE. 
          UH, WE HAVE ADDED APPROXIMATELY 10 NEW FULL-TIME, UH, EMPLOYEES AND FIVE PART-TIME EMPLOYEES. 
          LIKEWISE, WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR A, UH, SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET, AS WELL AS WE'VE CONTINUED THE FUNDING FOR THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM ALONG HIGHWAY ONE 70. 
          WE HAVE BUILT IN A, UH, 150, EXCUSE ME, $150,000 FOR THE, UH, NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, PLANNING STUDIES. 
          AND WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR, UM, INCREASE IN, UH, DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS SUBSIDIES AND PAL SUBSIDIES, UH, BASED ON INCREASED, UH, ACTIVITY IN THOSE PROGRAMS. ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE, IF I BE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT DONE YET. 
          OH, IF THAT'S OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, BUT I'LL BE, I'LL BE BRIEF BEFORE WE GET THE QUESTION. 
          , IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD MENTIONED TO THE, UM, UH, FINANCE, UH, COMMITTEE A COUPLE DAYS AGO, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TOM TO GO BACK THREE YEARS, UM, ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE TO SHOW YOU OH 3 0 4 AND OH FIVE IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, THERE IS, BUT FOR MINOR CHANGES IN YOUR CATEGORIES, SOME INCREASES. 
          IF YOU NOTICE, YOU WENT FROM, I THINK 66% IN, IN PERSONAL SERVICES TO ABOUT 70%. 
          WE'RE A SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY. 
          THAT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD BE, ABOUT 70%. 
          THE JOB IS DONE BY PEOPLE. 
          SERVICES ARE PROVIDED BY OUR STAFF FOR THE TAXPAYER. 
          I WANTED TO ELABORATE 
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JUST ON A COUPLE THINGS THAT TOM HAD MENTIONED. 
          UM, STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED A COLA IN A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          THERE'S A 2% COLA BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET. 
          THAT VALUE IS APPROXIMATELY $750,000. 
          THE HOSPITALIZATION INCREASES, AGAIN, IS ABOUT $600,000. 
          SO IF YOU NOTE THAT WE ARE UP AT 70% FROM, I BELIEVE, 68 A YEAR AGO TO 70%, THOSE ARE THE TWO PRIMARY REASONS WHY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, THE SHERIFF'S INCREASE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR OF ABOUT, UH, 585,000, I BELIEVE. 
          WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNICATIONS PROJECT, BEAR IN MIND THAT IS A NEW PORTION OF THIS COST, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, AN INCREASE OF 700,000, I BELIEVE WE SAID ABOUT 400, AND IS IT 400,000 ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL? ABOUT THAT? ABOUT 600,000 OF THAT INCREASE IS A RESULT OF IT COMING ONLINE FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS YEAR. 
          SO I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT THE COLA, THE HOSPITALIZATION, THE SHERIFF, THE COMMUNICATION, AND THE TRANSFER TO PALS, WHICH IS A 200, ABOUT $250,000 INCREASE. 
          YOU ASK, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE, UM, GIVEN ONLY A $3 MILLION GROWTH FACTOR? WELL, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE IN THIS BUDGET. 
          UH, BASICALLY ALMOST UNIT TO UNIT. 
          THE BOTTOM LINE TOTALS REMAIN THE SAME AS THEY WERE IN OH FOUR. 
          ALL, ALL OVERTIME WAS REDUCED TO OH FOUR LEVELS WE'RE ONLY APPROPRIATING INSTEAD OF A HUNDRED PERCENT IN PERSONAL SERVICES WE'RE APPROPRIATE APPROPRIATING 98.5%. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT OUR HISTORICAL, UH, EXPENDITURE RATE, AND WE FEEL THAT WE ALWAYS GAIN ON SLIPPAGE, AS WE CALL IT HERE IN BUFORT COUNTY, ABOUT 3%. 
          I'M BEING CONSERVATIVE AND SAYING IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO FULLY APPROPRIATE IN PERSONAL SERVICES. 
          A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          WE ONLY NEED TO DO 98.5. 
          BUT REMEMBER THAT THAT ACCRUAL OR SLIPPAGE THAT CARRIES ON DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, UM, HAS BEEN AUTOMATICALLY REDUCED BY ONE POINT A HALF PERCENT. 
          BY THE SAME TOKEN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE APPROPRIATION LEVELS FOR PERSONNEL THERE, WHERE TYPICALLY WE'VE HAD A SLIPPAGE FACTOR THAT ACCRUES ANYWHERE FROM 400 TO 600,000. 
          THE SHERIFF AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING, UH, WE'VE MET FOUR TIMES. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNSEL WITH, UH, AN ACCRUAL REPORT. 
          90 DAYS OUT IN OH FIVE AND 180 DAYS IN OH FIVE. 
          AND AT THAT SIX MONTH MARK, UM, WE'VE AGREED TO DISCUSS TOGETHER WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IF THAT NUMBER APPEARS TO BE GROWING WITH THAT MONEY, AND THAT WAY WE CAN PROVIDE MORE PUBLIC SERVICE FASTER THAN WAITING TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          TOM HAD INDICATED THAT THIS BUDGET PRESENTLY, UH, HAS, UH, 10 FULL-TIME POSITIONS AND FIVE PART-TIME POSITIONS. 
          I WANT TO GO OVER THOSE WITH YOU NOW, AND I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY, UH, AGAIN, THAT THIS BUDGET IS A FLUID DOCUMENT. 
          IT CHANGES OR COULD CHANGE EVERY TWO WEEKS ONCE IT'S PASSED ON, UH, JULY 1ST, 2005. 
          SO THAT, WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY, AND THE, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLING ME, I'M WILLING TO LISTEN. 
          BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, THIS IS THE, THESE ARE THE NEW POSITIONS. 
          MAGISTRATE POSITION OR KNOWN AS MAGISTRATE AT LARGE, ONE PARALEGAL, WHICH WOULD BE WORKING WITH OUR STAFF ATTORNEY, THREE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL, ALL SERVING BURTON WELLS. 
          ONE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN SERVING BARKER FIELD, A BUDGET ANALYST, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE RETREAT. 
          SO IT IS IN THERE A CONTRACT SPECIALIST WORKING WITH PURCHASING LAND MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, UH, SPECIAL NEEDS TRAINING SPECIALIST. 
          AND I THINK THAT COMPLETES THE 10. 
          AS FAR AS THE PART-TIME INDIVIDUALS, THERE ARE THREE, UM, ELECTION TECHNICIANS WORKING UNDER OUR VOTER REGISTRATION DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THERE ARE TWO, UH, PART-TIME OR SPECIALIST PART-TIME FOR THE MENTAL RETARDATION PROGRAM THROUGH SPECIAL NEEDS. 
          GARY, WHAT WAS THAT LAST FULL-TIME POSITION YOU MENTIONED? THAT WAS THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF, UH, WELL, IT WAS ADULT SERVICES. 
          IS THAT IT? UH, SPECIAL NEEDS TRAINING SPECIALIST. 
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TRAINING. 
          TRAINING SPECIALIST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO INDICATE TOO THAT ARE CHANGES THAT YOU'LL SEE AS YOU BEGIN THE REVIEW PROCESS AND REMIND EVERYBODY. 
          WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS TO GO, AND I'LL MOVE THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS I CAN. 
          THERE'S CHANGES IN VOTER REGISTRATION WHERE WE'VE ADDED ABOUT 150,000, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S FOR ELECTIONS AND ALSO EQUIPMENT. 
          THERE'S ADJUSTMENTS UPWARDS IN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, AGAIN, IN REALIGNING, UH, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE A SURGE OF, UM, APPEALS BASED ON REASSESSMENT. 
          UH, THE DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS FUNDED WITH NO CHANGE. 
          IT'S AT A $270,000 LEVEL. 
          TOM HAD MENTIONED, AND I WANNA REEMPHASIZE THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS FUNDED FOR A NORTHERN REGIONAL STUDY, AND THE REMAINING COMPONENTS OF THE SOUTHERN REGIONAL STUDY MIS IS FUNDED, HAS AN EQUIPMENT REQUEST OF, I BELIEVE, 200,000 IN WHAT WE'RE, OR MIS. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE FORMING A SMALL TECHNOLOGICAL OR TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE WHERE ALL REQUESTS WILL FLOW AS THEY DO NOW WITH FRANK, BUT THEY'LL HAVE A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE ASSISTING IN THE VALUE JUDGMENTS THAT FRANK'S PRESENTLY MADE. 
          THAT MONEY WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE USER DEPARTMENTS, BUT IT'LL GIVE US CONTROL AS TO HOW WE'RE APPLYING TECHNOLOGY ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          AND LASTLY, I JUST WANNA REMIND COUNSEL THAT ANY FUTURE CHANGES WILL HAVE TO COME FROM ONE OF THREE AREAS. 
          UM, ONE ADDITIONAL MONEY, UH, TAKING DOWN, TAKEN DOWN THE CASH RESERVE TO PROVIDE REVENUE. 
          TWO, LOOKING AT THE OTHER UNITS OF GOVERNMENT WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND AND REDUCING EXPENDITURES. 
          UM, AND THREE, UH, IF WE CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS TO CHANGE THE, THE PRESENT PROJECTION, UH, OF TOTAL REVENUE FOR THE YEAR 2005. 
          NOW THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT, MR. CHAIRMAN . 
          AND, UH, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY MEMBER OF COUNSEL MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. KI. 
          MR. BRAD, UH, FIRST I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. 
          ONE, TOM MENTIONED, UH, CHANGE FROM THEMM TO, UH, UH, COMMUNITY CARE FOR, UH, CHILDREN. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          IS THAT A, JUST A CHANGE IN, THAT'S JUST A CHANGE IN THE NAME OF THE ORGANIZATION. 
          VIM HAS CHANGED ITS NAME. 
          NO, VIM HAS NOT CHANGED. 
          THE DON E HAS CHANGED, RIGHT? DIFFERENT DON E CONVERSATION IS JUST SPLIT OFF FROM SPLIT OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          THE OTHER ONE IS, WE ALL GOT A, UM, I'M SURE WE ALL DID, GOT A, UH, REQUEST FROM THERESA DUNN, CHAIRMAN OF THE LIBRARY, BOARD OF TRUSTEES REQUESTING A POSITION. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU GOT ONE GARY OR NOT. 
          YES. 
          AND WHAT I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU GIVE A CONSIDERATION, I HAVE, AND I, I'LL TELL YOU, UM, IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. 
          I THINK THE POSITION HAS MERIT. 
          UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, THE LIBRARY IS RECIPIENT OF OVER $3 MILLION OF GENERAL FUND MONEY. 
          UM, THE REQUEST FOR THAT POSITION, I BELIEVE BENEFITS REPRESENTS LESS THAN A TWO PER, 2% CHANGE ON THAT THREE MILLIONS. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM TO TAKE ANOTHER GOOD LOOK AT THAT BUDGET TO SEE IF WE CAN FREE UP A PORTION OF THAT 3 MILLION TO BE APPLIED TOWARD THAT POSITION. 
          UM, AND THEN MAYBE WITH ONE OF THE COMBINATIONS OR FREEING UP MONEY IN ANOTHER UNIT OF GOVERNMENT, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT COULD BE FUNDED, BUT I WANNA MAKE A POINT THAT THE, UM, IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE LIBRARY FOLKS AND WITH FRANK, THE POSITION IS CLEARLY NEEDED AND I THINK IT'S DUE TO THE DEMAND AND EXPANSION OF LIBRARY SERVICES. 
          SO WE'RE NOT AT ODDS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE POSITION IS NEEDED. 
          UH, IT'S MORE STRICTLY A FUNDING ISSUE. 
          HOW DO WE GET THERE? I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT. 
          I DON'T SEE HOW ANYBODY CAN BE AT ODDS WITH THERESA DUNN, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER, OH, YOU'D BE SURPRISED. 
           STUART. 
          THANKS. 
          UH, MR. UBIC, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON TIME ON A GOOD PRESENTATION. 
          ALTHOUGH WE THOUGHT IT WAS COMPLETED, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS USEFUL. 
          I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          I FOUND THOSE CHARTS VERY USEFUL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DOWNLOADING. 
          AND WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO LOOK INSIDE SOUTH CAROLINA AND A COUPLE OF OTHER COUNTIES THAT MIGHT BE SIMILARLY SITUATED AND TAKE A LOOK AT HALF THEIR RATIOS OF PROPERTY TAXES TO OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUES TO COMPARE? I NOTICED WE'RE CLIMBING AROUND 67% THREE YEARS AGO TO A LITTLE NORTH OF 70% NOW. 
          AND IF WE LOOK AT REVENUE ENHANCEMENT OR OTHER SORTS OF TRADE OFFS, IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO SEE WHAT THOSE FOLKS ARE DOING AND GET SOME BENCHMARKS WITH THE SUCCESS THEY'VE HAD. 
          UM, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UH, UH, I'LL HAVE SOME, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          AND WE'VE COVERED SOME OF THESE IN COMMITTEE, BUT YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE SUBSIDY, THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT IS INCLUDED IN ONE OF THE CATEGORIES. 
          DID WE HAVE A QUANTITY BREAK ON THAT SOMEWHERE? CAN WE YEAH. 
          WE'LL, UH, IT'S BEEN REDUCED. 
          UH, UM, YES, IT'S, IT'S COVERED UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS SECTION 
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AND, UH, IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, 2004, IT WAS, UH, BUDGETED AT, UH, 600,000 MM-HMM . 
          IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, BUDGETED AT, UH, $425,800. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU MAY RECALL THAT ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE STORMWATER UTILITY, UM, SUBSIDY PROGRAM IS A, UM, REDUCTION BASED ON YOUR ASSESSED VALUE WITH REASSESSMENT. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT THAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED IN THAT CATEGORY WILL DROP SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, TWO MORE QUICK QUESTIONS. 
          ONE IS ON THE, IF I'M CORRECT, THE PUBLIC WORKS MAINTENANCE OF PALS FACILITIES IS INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC'S WORK BUDGET, NOT THE PALS BUDGET. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE LAST ONE IS REALLY A SEPARATE BUDGETING ITEM, AND THAT'S THAT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AT SOME POINT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT A CIP BUDGET SPREAD, PERHAPS OVER A FIVE YEAR PROJECTION AS OPPOSED TO THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, THAT'S MY GOAL. 
          UM, BUT FOR THE IMMEDIACY, WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS TO, UH, RESURRECT A PROFILE GOING BACK A COUPLE YEARS SO THAT WE GET COMPLETE INFORMATION ON A, IN A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE MM-HMM . 
          ON EACH PROJECT. 
          UM, I WANTED TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED PROJECTS, BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT A CIP SHOULD GO OUT ABOUT FIVE YEARS. 
          NOW WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE ASKED A COUPLE OF THE LARGER AGENCIES, BEAUFORD, JASPER, I'VE GOT THEIR INFORMATION ON THEIR CIPI TOOK A LOOK AT, UH, WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          I WANNA MAKE IT AVAILABLE THROUGH FINANCE AND PUBLIC WORKS, UM, JUST TO GET MODELS OF WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES, WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING ON CIP AND, AND SORT OF INCORPORATE THE BETTER IDEAS OF THOSE MODELS INTO A NEW PROGRAM FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I, I DO WANNA MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT. 
          I, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY ON, UH, WHAT YOU HAD INDICATED AT THE, AT YOUR INITIAL REMARKS IN THAT I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT EVERY RECEIPT CATEGORY AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE POSSIBILITIES FOR REVENUE ENHANCEMENT. 
          I BELIEVE THEY ARE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I BELIEVE WHETHER OR NOT OUR TAX GROWTH CONTINUES, UM, YOU NEED TO COMPLIMENT THAT TAX GROWTH WITH SOME REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE HUMOROUS EXAMPLES IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A DOG LICENSE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED AT A RATE OF $3 IN 1973. 
          NOW, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT STILL HAS MERIT. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT COSTS US TO DO THAT PROGRAM, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO DROP IT THAN TO ENHANCE IT. 
          BUT THOSE ARE EXAMPLES AND QUESTIONS AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BEGIN TO EVALUATE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANKS. 
          I I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT I'M DELIGHTED TO SEE WE HAVE BOTH THE BUDGET ANALYST AND THE LAND MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR'S POSITION IN THIS BECAUSE WHEN 70% OF OUR BUDGET'S BASED ON PROPERTY TAXES, IT'S FAIRLY CLEAR THAT LAND MANAGEMENT IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE AS IT RELATES TO THE WELFARE, THE OTHER FOLKS HERE. 
          AND ON THE BUDGET ANALYST SIDE, I THINK THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION, BUT AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THESE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES AND SOME OF THESE INTERGOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IT BE A REAL ASSET FOR YOU AND TOM TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT COULD DIG INTO THOSE THINGS FOR YOU RATHER THAN TRYING TO DO ALL THE OTHER STUFF YOU'RE DOING AS WELL AS THAT WE AGREE. 
          YOU GONNA GO FOR FIRST, MR. STEWART, WHAT IS CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED IS LIKE THE, WE HAVEN'T REDUCED ANY OF THE CAPITAL. 
          I MEAN, IT WAS, IT'S NOT THERE. 
          AND I'M SAYING LIKE, OOH, , THAT'S CAPITAL EQUIPMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALL GONE. 
          IT'S SORT OF LIKE, ALRIGHT, SO IT'S GONNA BE SOMEPLACE ELSE . 
          WELL, UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS, UM, THERE'S SOME EQUIPMENT REQUESTS IN HERE, BUT BY AND LARGE, UM, ALL THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE CONTEMPLATING, UH, OR HAD CONTEMPLATING IN OH FIVE, WE'LL BE SHIFTED INTO THE CIP PROGRAM. 
          THE PROBLEM WITH THAT, AND THE INDICATOR OF THAT IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY UNDER THE PRESENT FACTORS OF THIS BUDGET TO ABSORB THOSE TYPES OF COSTS. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND BORROW AND SPREAD THOSE COSTS OUT. 
          NOW, THE GOAL WILL BE THAT IF WE'RE ABLE TO WITH REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS AND CONTINUED GROWTH, AND THEN DEVELOP EFFICIENCIES WITHIN THE EXISTING SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHAT WE REALLY ARE GONNA BE STRIVING FOR, THEN EVENTUALLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO MORE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW, GIVEN OUR LIMITATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. 
          IT'S GONNA BE ONE BIG BOND ORDINANCE. 
          NO, ON THE ON, UH, SO FAR THE FIRST BLUSH THAT I'VE LOOKED AT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          I'VE BEEN TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE CIP, SO I'VE BEEN ACTUALLY GOING IN REVERSE MR. BROWN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          UM, LAST YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU RECOMMENDING, UM, 10 NEW FULL-TIME POSITION, YOU DIDN'T FIND ANY POSITION IN THE BUDGET WE COULD ELIMINATE? WELL, THAT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TALK TO. 
          . 
          UM, OTHER THAN COUNTY COUNCIL, 
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THERE WERE, UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR NEW POSITIONS THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T CONSIDER. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA EVALUATE EVERY PRESENT POSITION. 
          UH, WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, MADE A DECISION, OR AT LEAST I DID, UH, RECENTLY WITH HR, WHERE, UM, I BELIEVE OUR, ONE OF OUR RECRUITERS IS RETIRING. 
          I'VE ADVISED LORETTA THAT I DON'T INTEND TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS. 
          I'M GONNA TAKE A VERY CAREFUL LOOK AT, UH, EACH VACANCY AS IT COMES ONLINE AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TO REPLACE. 
          BUT I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, PART OF THE PROCESS, AND IT'S ONLY BEEN FIVE MONTHS FOR ME, RIGHT. 
          I FULLY EXPECT THAT, UH, WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION, WE DO HAVE POSITIONS THAT WE PROBABLY CAN DO WITHOUT. 
          BUT I DO WANNA REMIND COUNSEL THIS, UH, EVEN THOUGH THAT MAY BE TRUE, WE ARE CREATING NEW ENTERPRISES AND THERE ARE GREAT DEMANDS FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, UH, BURTON WELLS PARK. 
          THIS IS ONLY A GESTURE. 
          IT IS NOT WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO FULLY OPERATE THAT NEW FACILITY THE WAY WE INTENDED AND THE WAY WE WANT. 
          BUT IT'S A, YOU KNOW, BUILDING BLOCK PROCESS. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY, UH, MAY MAYBE BECAUSE OF OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE MIGHT BE OVERSTAFFED IN ONE AREA, WE WOULD SIMPLY SHIFT, UM, SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES TO, TO FUND THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. 
          THAT CARRIES FORWARD INTO MY PHILOSOPHY ON THE CIP, THAT EVERY PROJECT WE CONSIDER, IF IT HAS AN ASSOCIATED OPERATIONAL COST, WE HAVE TO BEGIN TO DISCUSS HOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE THOSE MONIES AVAILABLE, WHEN THOSE BUDGETS ARE, WHEN THE BRICKS AND MORTAR ARE COMPLETE, AND THEN STICK TO IT. 
          AND, UM, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF CHANGES WE'RE TRYING TO, TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          OKAY. 
          ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. 
          I, I NOTICED THAT, UM, YOU DID NOT MENTION ANY NEW POSITION, UM, IN THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET. 
          UM, DID HE NOT REQUEST ANY OF THIS TIME? UH, 'CAUSE IF IT IS THE FIRST TIME I CAN REMEMBER SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, WHAT'S ON 18 YEARS, I WISH I KNEW AN ANSWER TO THAT. 
          I, I, I DON'T, I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FACETIOUS. 
          UM, BASICALLY WHAT I DID, UH, WHEN I THINK THE SHERIFF'S BUDGET ORIGINALLY CAME OVER, THE INCREASED DEMAND WAS ABOUT 1.2 MILLION. 
          YES. 
          ABOVE WHAT HE PRESENTLY HAS IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS AND DISCUSSION. 
          UM, THE INCREASE IS BETWEEN 500 AND I THINK 50,000 AND 600,000. 
          TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE INTENDS TO TAKE A PORTION OF THIS APPROPRIATION AND HIRE NEW INDIVIDUALS WITH IT. 
          UM, I WOULD ASSUME THERE WOULD BE SOME NEW HIRES, NEW DEPUTIES BROUGHT ON BOARD. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD BE AN ASSUMPTION AND I WOULD BE ILL ADVISED TO, TO, TO TELL YOU YES OR NO. 
          I JUST DON'T, IN OTHER WORDS, NEW DEPUTY POSITION WAS NOT DISCUSSED WITH YOU. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. BAHAR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, GARY, DOING THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, UH, THE REQUEST AT THAT TIME WAS SOMETHING LIKE, UH, $13 MILLION OVER ANTICIPATED, UH, INCOME OR REVENUE. 
          AND YOU HAVE BROUGHT IT IN TO WHERE, UH, THE BUDGET IS APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION, UH, OVER THE LAST YEARS. 
          AND, UH, ANYWAY, HOW YOU GOT RID OF $10 MILLION IN REQUEST. 
          I, I APPLAUD YOU FOR THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE AND YOU, YOU AND THE STAFF AND, AND BRINGING US A BUDGET WITHOUT A TAX INCREASE AND LIVING WITHIN THE, UH, PROJECTED REVENUES FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND, AND I, I THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATE YOU ON THAT. 
          UH, NO NEW TAX, UH, NO NEW TAX INCREASE IS ALWAYS GOOD NEWS. 
          I NOTICED IN THE PIE CHARTS THAT, UH, GENERAL GOVERNMENT WAS, UH, AS A PERCENTAGE IS JUST ABOUT FLAT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS OF YOUR COMPARISON. 
          BUT I NOTICED THAT THE SHERIFF WAS, UH, INCHING UP BY ONE, TWO OR 3% OVER THOSE SAME THREE YEARS. 
          AND UH, WELL, I HAVE NO COMMENT EXCEPT I NOTICED THAT  THE OTHER THING I MIGHT MIGHT ASK IS, UH, IN THE 10 NEW PERSONNEL POSITION, THE PARALEGAL, IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL ONE? THAT WOULD BE A NEW POSITION? TWO, TWO PARALEGALS IN THE, IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? NO, WE PRESENTLY DO NOT HAVE A PARALEGAL IN THE, UH, UH, SECRETARY. 
          WELL, WE HAVE A SECRETARY, BUT I DON'T CONSIDER IT A FUNCTION AS A PARALEGAL. 
          DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION, DIFFERENT QUALIFICATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE, UH, YOU ALSO SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A, DID I REMEMBER SPECIALIST TRAINING SPECIALIST? WHAT WAS THAT OTHER POSITION? THE TRAINING SPECIALIST FOR, UH, SPECIAL NEEDS. 
          I DIDN'T GET WHAT IT WAS FOR. 
          YES, 
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FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, SPECIAL NEEDS ADULT SERVICES, DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE THREE NEW POSITIONS IN THE ELECTION COMMISSION. 
          THOSE ARE, UH, PART-TIME TIMES NOT TEMPORARY. 
          I, I REALIZE THIS IS A GENERAL ELECTION. 
          YOU, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TEMPORARY. 
          THEY'RE SIX MONTH POSITIONS. 
          GOOD. 
          THAT, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS COMING TO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THEN YOU HAD TWO MORE IN THE, UH, THAT I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          I, I CAN'T EVEN READ MY NOTE. 
          I WROTE IT SO BADLY. 
          YES. 
          DSN WHAT IS IT? MENTAL RETARDATION SPECIALIST PART-TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU, YOU'VE ANSWERED MONEY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          LET ME, LET ME, UH, POINT OUT IN, IN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INCREASE IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, UM, THE ISSUE IS, UH, ONE, IT WILL SHOW A RISE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS THE LARGEST DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, HE HAS A SEPARATE COMPENSATION PLAN. 
          I DON'T QUESTION THE DOLLAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL, I DO QUESTION THE DOLLAR, BUT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE HOLE WAS RISING IS WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? NO. 
          GOT NO QUESTION ANSWERED. 
          MS. MS. HATCH? YES, I JUST HAVE ONE. 
          I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          IT THERE, IT WAS EASILY UNDERSTOOD. 
          UH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH. 
          UM, IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DID WE TOUCH THE FUND THAT WAS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING? ARE YOU ASKING IF THE MONEY THAT WAS PRO THAT WAS APPROPRIATE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THAT BALANCE IS STILL AVAILABLE? UHHUH  IT IS. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, MR. HARRIS. 
          MR. GENERAL, UM, IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNSEL, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AT LEAST THE INITIAL FIRST READING ON TITLE ONLY. 
          SO I MAKE THAT AS A MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          AND I, I, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UH, GARY AND TOM FOR THE MANY, MANY HOURS I KNOW THAT'S BEEN SPENT ON GETTING US TO WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT. 
          SINCERE, THANKS. 
          THIS IS A QUICK STUDY HERE, MR. COOPER. 
          OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, YOU'VE GOTTEN ACCLIMATED HERE, , THAT'S INTERESTING. 
          BUT, UH, I DID WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU FOR, UH, YOUR HARD WORK AND, UH, BRINGING THIS BUDGET IN AND WHAT APPEARS AT THIS POINT AT A NO TAX INCREASE BUDGET, THAT IS, UH, WE ASKED YOU TO DO IT THROUGH RETREAT AND WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL'S HARD WORK IN DOING SO. 
          UH, AND IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THAT HAS BEEN DONE, UH, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE DELIVERY OF ANY PUBLIC SERVICE. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY, UH, OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY'S FYO FIVE BUDGET BY TITLE ONLY. 
          FIRST READING THESE INDICATE SO BY SHOWING OH, ALL COUNTY BUDGETS, RIGHT? MR. FRANK? YES. 
          SO WE USE ALL COUNTY BUDGET, ALL COUNTY OPERATIONS, AND OPPOSED AND EXTENSIONS. 
          IT'S 10 OF US IN FAVOR. 
          AND MR. UNANIM? OKAY. 
          MR. VAUGHN HART COMMITTEE REPORTS. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, WE'LL DO IT LIKE WE DO EVERY MEETING. 
          UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          MR. GLASSON. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          I SEE THAT, UM, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD DISCUSSED, JUNE 17TH AT 3:30 PM I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE. 
          QUESTION FROM THE LAST MEETING, MY LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THREE O' ON THAT DAY? NO, WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT FROM THE LAST MEETING WE HAD AT THE TIME OF JUNE 3:30 PM SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE, FROM THE LAST MEETING WE HAD HERE, COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          WE DISCUSSED JUNE THREE, 3:30 PM JUNE, WHAT? THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT CONFLICTED YOUR STANDING MEETING DONE? UH, YEAH, BUT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FLEXIBLE. 
          I MEAN, WELL, WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT. 
          I MEAN, UH, BUT THEN WE STILL HAVE TO LET THE, UH, PARTICIPANTS KNOW BECAUSE OF COURSE COME BACK FROM THE GOVERNING COUNCIL WITH THE COURT FROM THE INCENTIVE COMMITTEE. 
          WELL, YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY SERVICE AT, AT FOUR O'CLOCK, SO YOU HAVE TO FINISH IT NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU CAN HAVE IT ON THAT DAY. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, IT, WE MADE AGREEMENTS. 
          SO I, I THINK WE GOTTA SPEAK FOR THE DATE TODAY. 
          ARE SCHEDULE, WHAT ARE WE HEARING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING? JUNE 17TH. 
          15, 3 30 3:00 PM THREE 30. 
          THREE 30. 
          WE HAVE TO FINISH IN 30 
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MINUTES. 
          AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A SERVICE CALL AT FOUR O'CLOCK? YEAH. 
          WELL, I'M, SEE THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE THIS WAS SET FROM THE LAST MEETING. 
          SO, BUT THIS, I WAS STANDING MEETING DATA. 
          NO, SIR. 
          PERMANENT MEETINGS TODAY SCHEDULED FOR THE MONTH. 
          WELL, IT WAS SET FOR THREE 30. 
          SO, UM, BUT THE PRESENTATION FROM THE, UM, INCENTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE GOVERNING COUNCIL, I THINK WE CAN KIND OF, UM, WRAP IT UP IN THE HALF HOUR. 
          YOU SURE? OR I'M LOOKING AT LOOKING DOWN THERE. 
          NOTICES OF THE MEETING HASN'T GONE OUT. 
          IT'S NOT MUCH TO UH, I MEAN, IT'S NOT MUCH TO PRESENT IN A HALF HOUR. 
          THREE O'CLOCK. 
          THREE O'CLOCK. 
          THREE O'CLOCK. 
          HOW ABOUT YOU, ROBERT? THAT'S FINE WITH YOU. 
          I'M FINE. 
          MAKE IT THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          JUNE 17, 3:00 PM 3:00 PM EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM. 
          AND ANTICIPATING, UH, I WOULDN'T WANNA SQUASH YOUR BILL. 
          COMMUNITY SERVICES AT FOUR, SAME DAY. 
          SUCH IMPORTANT ISSUES. 
          YOU, MARGARET? EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          MARGARET GONNA MOVE HER MEETING BACK TO TWO, UH, MS. GRIFFIN AND INDICATED SHE WAS GONNA RESCHEDULE HER MEETING. 
          I'LL RESCHEDULE. 
          I'LL, I'LL FI I'LL, I'LL WORK SOMETHING OUT. 
          SHE'S NOT WILL I? WAIT, WAIT. 
          I, I'M . 
          UH, MS. WELL, WHY DON'T WE ASK WHY WE'RE HERE? WAS TWO O'CLOCK ON THAT DAY, MS. GRIFFIN? I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT NOR DO I WANT TO LEAVE HERE AND YOU TO HAVE TO GET ON THE PHONE CALLING EVERYBODY WHO'S ON YOUR COMMITTEE TO GET, UH, TO RESCHEDULE A MEETING WITH. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN A CONFLICT SCHEDULE WITH YOUR STANDING MEETING, GUYS. 
          WELL, BECAUSE OF THE, THE ORDINANCE THAT IS COMING, RIGHT? OKAY. 
          IT MIGHT BE BE WHO IS TO HAVE IT LIKE BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          SO I MAY LAND UP MOVING IT A WHOLE WEEK FORWARD. 
          SO COME ON OVER. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IT? YEAH. 
          O'CLOCK? NO, NO, NO. 
          LIKE TO DO IT AT TWO O'CLOCK BECAUSE I, WE NEED, WE NEED TO ADDRESS AFTER THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          THAT'S WHAT HER POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT MAY BE EITHER BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING OR THE WEEK BEFORE OR SOMETHING. 
          I'LL WORK SOMETHING OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WE'LL GET, YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THEN WE'RE BACK TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR 3:00 PM ON JUNE THE 17TH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. 
          MR. MCBRIDE COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          THANK YOU MR. VICE CHAIRMAN COMMITTEE MEETING ON MAY 13TH. 
          UH, COMMITTEE AGREED TO RECOMMEND TWO NAMES TO COUNCIL. 
          PUT TWO NAMES IN. 
          NOMINATION THAT IS FOR FOSTER CARE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS, UM, ANN DS AND THE H CARTER MILLER FOR THE FOSTER CARE BOARD. 
          YOU'VE HEARD THE NAMES OF ANN DS, ANDY SIMONES, AND THELMA CARMILLA TO BE, UH, NOMINATED OR AS NOMINATED AS MEMBERS OF THE FOSTER CARE BOARD. 
          UH, THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME. 
          DOES ANY MEMBER OF COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATION FOR THAT BOARD? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. 
          GO AHEAD, MR. I'M SORRY. 
          I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ON AND SIGNS, IS THAT BOXY SIGNS, IS THAT THE ONE SHE LIVE IN MOSS CREEK, OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT ONE? YES. 
          MOSS CREEK. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE COUNCIL PLACE A FILE NAME NOMINATION FOR DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD, AND THAT IS, UH, MARTHA B UM, GRESHAM, UM, FOR SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD. 
          THANK YOU MR. MCBRIDE. 
          YOU'VE HEARD, UH, MS. GRESHAM NOMINATED AS A MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MCBRIDE. 
          YOU MAY CONTINUE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, COMMITTEE ALSO, UM, HAD A PRESENTATION. 
          MS. SUMMERALL DIRECT AN ANIMAL SHELTER ON THE OPERATION OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER. 
          AND, AND, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE, THE COMMITTEE, UM, MADE, UH, 10, I MEAN, UH, FULL RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND AFTER DISCUSSING WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THIS, THIS CAN BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY, SO, AND HE'S IN CONCUR WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, THEREFORE, I WILL NOT BE ASKED IN COUNSEL TO ENDORSE THIS. 
          OUR S HANDLE IT ADMINISTRATIVELY. 
          UM, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS, UH, AS FOLLOWS, UM, THAT THE SHELTER SHOULD, SHOULD BE ACCEPTING CHECKS ON THIS PAYMENT INSTEAD OF DEMANDING CASH ONLY WHEN AN ANIMAL IS BEING ADOPTED. 
          SECOND ONE IS ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT THAT A PERSON ADOPTING AN ANIMAL FROM THE SHELTER MUST AGREE TO KEEP THE ANIMAL IN THE HOUSE AT LEAST PART OF THE TIME. 
          AND THE THIRD ONE, THAT THE TAX, UH, AMENDMENT TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL ORDERS, UM, SHOULD BE REVISED TO ALLOW THE COUNTY ANIMALS' LICENSES LIKE RABIES VACCINATION AND BE GOOD FOR THREE YEARS INSTEAD OF ONE YEAR WITH AN APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENT IN THE FEE TO COVER THE THREE YEAR PERIOD AND INVESTIGATE THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF ASSESSING A FEE A PERSON BRINGING ANIMALS IN FOR TO BE EUTHANIZED. 
          AND THE DISCUSSION ON THAT WAS BECAUSE, UM, RIGHT NOW IT IS DONE FREE IF A PERSON BRINGS AN ANIMAL IN AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION AS TO WHETHER THERE SHOULD BE A CHARGE FOR THAT SERVICE 
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OR NOT. 
          BUT THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, MANY PEOPLE JUST TURN THESE ANIMALS LOOSE IN THE WISDOM PLACE IF THERE WAS A FEE. 
          AND SO THE ADMINISTRATOR IS GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT POSSIBILITY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND CARRY THOSE OUT. 
          SO THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY ACTION ON THE PART OF THE COUNCIL. 
          UH, THE, THE COMMITTEE ALSO APPROVED, APPROVED TWO RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, CONTRACT AWARD FOR SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS, YOU KNOW, FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. 
          AND THAT WAS LESS THAN $50,000. 
          AND THE OTHER CONTRACT WAS APPROVED, WHICH WAS LESS THAN $50,000 WAS THE PURCHASE OF A BEVERAGE TRAILER FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION, LIKE A COKE TRUCK WHERE YOU CAN USE THE VARIOUS COMPARTMENT TO STORE VARIOUS APPARATUS. 
          AND COMMITTEE ALSO APPROVED THAT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, UH, IN AND THE, THE BUDGET ITEMS AND ALL THAT WERE PROPERLY SATISFIED DURING THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSION? YES. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, IT DID NOT REQUIRE COUNCIL LAMAN. 
          IT WAS LESS THAN 50,000 AND IT WAS PUT UNANIMOUS IN THE COMMITTEE AND, AND THE MONEY FOR BUDGET? YES, IT BUDGET FUNDS. 
          UH, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BILL ON THE RABIES OBJECTION. 
          EVERY THREE YEARS RATHER THAN EVERY YEAR. 
          I MEAN, UP UNTIL NOW THERE WAS NO ORDINANCE REQUIRING THAT. 
          THERE WAS CONFUSION AS TO WHAT ORDER REQUIRED. 
          AND, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IS THAT, IS THAT OUR ORDER IS PRETTY MUCH PARALLEL WHAT THE STATE REQUIRED, WHICH WAS ALLOWED FOR THE THREE YEAR VACCINATION, BUT APPARENTLY IT HAD NOT BEEN INTERPRETED THAT WAY. 
          MANY PEOPLE BEING TOLD THEY HAVE TO GET THE VACCINATION EVERY, EVERY YEAR IN THE PAST. 
          I MEAN, IN YOUR JUDGMENT, IS THAT THE WAY IT'S GONNA GO EVERY THREE YEARS? THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE STATE ALLOWS FOR THREE YEAR VACCINATION. 
          D ALLOWS THAT, AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNTY AUDIENCE WILL BE REVISED TO REFLECT THAT WITH THE THREE YEAR FEE AS OPPOSED, THE REASON I ASK IS I'VE GOTTEN PHONE CALLS ON THAT LITTLE BIT. 
          ALRIGHT, SIR. 
          I SEE, UH, YES, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IT. 
          SURE. 
          DURING THE COURSE OF THE MEETING, I DID THE TERRIBLE THING FOR A LAWYER TO DO, AND THAT IS READ THE STATE STATUTE. 
          AND THE STATE STATUTE IS VERY PRECISE ABOUT WHAT IT SAYS, AND IT'S A VALID VACCINATION FOR RABIES. 
          IT DOES NOT MENTION YEARS. 
          AND THERE, ACCORDING TO THE PHARMACEUTICAL HOUSES, THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF VACCINATIONS. 
          ONE FOR ONE YEAR AND ONE FOR THREE YEARS. 
          AND THE, THIS DISCUSSION WAS TO TRY TO INDICATE TO MS. SUMAL AND OTHERS THAT IF A DOCTOR IS A VETERINARIAN IS PREPARED TO GIVE A VACCINATION WITH A THREE YEAR CERTIFICATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PHARMACEUTICAL HOUSES THAT PRODUCE THE VACCINATION, THAT THE PRESENTATION OF A VALID THREE YEAR VACCINATION FOR RABIES IS SUFFICIENT TO GET A THREE YEAR, ALSO GET A THREE YEAR, UH, ANIMAL LICENSE. 
          SO THE STATE STATUTE IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT SAYS, THE PHARMACEUTICAL HOUSES, WE HAD DOCUMENTATION AS TO THE AVAILABILITY OF THREE YEAR VACCINATIONS. 
          AND IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE IN THE NEWSPAPER, SOME VETS DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          OTHER VETS SAY IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND THE PHARMACEUTICAL HOUSES SAY IT'S GOOD FOR THREE YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE CAME FROM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. CLA. 
          ANYTHING FURTHER ON THAT, MR. MCRIGHT? THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE EXCEPT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS, WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT, DIDN'T WE? MM-HMM . 
          JUNE 17TH AT 4:00 PM YES, SIR. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. ANYTHING ON RELEVANT AGREEMENT? NO, SIR. 
          AND MR. GENERALS HAS DEPARTED, BUT WHO IS GONNA COVER THE FINANCE, UH, REPORT? CHAIRMAN. 
          MR. BRACKMAN, DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT OR DO YOU WANT AS VICE CHAIRMAN OF FINANCE? YOU WANT ME TO DO IT? GO AHEAD. 
          UH, THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT CAME OUTTA RECOMMENDATION FINANCE COMMITTEE, UH, FROM THE MAY 17 MEETING. 
          THE FIRST WAS, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO COME HERE, MR. UBIC, OTHER THAN THAT THEY ARE IN AMENDMENT TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          SO TOM MAY TELL US CONTINGENCY DO HAVE TO, BUT YES, SIR, IT WAS THE ALLOCATION 23,000 COUNTY DRUG COURT FROM S CONTINGENCY FUND FROM LAST YEAR, UH, WAS THE FIRST. 
          AND THAT WAS A COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. 
          THE SECOND WAS SECOND ONE. 
          SIR, LET'S TAKE ONE AT A TIME. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          WE'LL BE HAPPY TO. 
          LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. 
          IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM LAST YEAR OR JUST AN ALLOCATION WITHIN TRANSFER? OKAY, TRANSFER. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SO $23,000 TO THE DRUG COURT FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF ALLOCATION OF $23,000 OF THE BUT COUNTY DRUG FROM THE DRUG COURT, RATHER FROM THE COUNCIL'S CONTINGENCY FIRM FINANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING THE HEARING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MR. VANT. 
          THE SECOND 
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RECOMMENDATION WAS A TRANSFER OF $40,000 FROM COUNCIL'S, UH, CONTINGENCY FUND, UH, TO THE MOSQUITO CONTROL DEPARTMENT, UM, AS A RESULT OF EXCEEDING THE BUDGET PER PURCHASE OF ESSENTIAL IN INSECTICIDE BY 78,000 BUCKS. 
          AND THAT WAS A COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOTION. 
          SECOND DISCUSSION. 
          SEEING NONE FAVOR THE MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          UH, WE HAVE NO NEXT, UH, FUTURE DATE FOR A MEETING BEHIND THAT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GLAD GRANTON MINORITY AFFAIRS. 
          OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE'S NO, UH, ACTION ITEMS HERE. 
          THIS INFORMATION FROM THE LAST MEETING AND HOPE THAT THE NEXT MEETING WE WILL, UH, BE ABLE TO ENTERTAIN THOSE AS STAFF ASSIGNMENTS AS SOME AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          BUT THERE IS NO ACTION ITEM ON THIS ONE. 
          AND ARE YOU MEETING ON THE 17TH? YES, SIR. 
          AT 5:00 PM CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT. 
          MR. ANYTHING ON HUMAN RESOURCES? NO, BUT I LOOKED AT MY CALENDAR AND I THINK I HAVE A DATE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, JUNE THE 10TH IS GOOD. 
          THERE'S A MEETING ON THE, AT FOUR O'CLOCK, THERE'S A MEETING AT AT SIX O'CLOCK, AND IF I SHOVE THIS AT THREE O'CLOCK, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          AND WILL THAT WORK? THAT THIS IS RAINY? YES. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT WILL BE AT THREE O'CLOCK ON JUNE THE 10TH HUMAN RESOURCES MEETING AT 3:00 PM JUNE 10TH. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, WHERE ARE WE MEETING THAT DAY? HERE? OVER HERE. 
          THE BUDGET HEARINGS ARE HERE THAT NIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT ELSE YOU GOT, MORGAN? THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          AND MR. GENERALES, UH, IS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, WAS THERE ANYTHING ON THAT? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          MR. STEWART, ANY GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? THANK YOU MR. VON HART. 
          THERE'S, UH, MINUTES IN YOUR PACKAGE, BUT A COUPLE OF CHANGES. 
          THERE'S ONE ACTION ITEM THAT, UM, WAS RECOMMENDED AND THAT IS TO, UM, OPPOSE HOUSE BILL 30 82, WHICH WE'RE DESCRIBING HERE AS ASSAULT ON HOME RULE. 
          THIS IS IN FACT THE LATEST VERSION OF THE INFAMOUS HOG BILL. 
          UH, THIS PARTICULAR VERSION WOULD PUT IN PLACE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT IN NO CASE COULD ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY HAVE A RULE MORE STRICT THAN THAT, OR ORDINANCE MORE STRICT THAN THAT CREATED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WOULD DO FOR THE ONE YEAR AND THREE YEAR VACCINATIONS, BUT IT COULD WREAK HAVOC WITH HOG FARMS AND ORDINANCES OF ALL TYPES WITH OUR ZONING AND STUFF. 
          SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING OPPOSING THAT. 
          AND THIS WOULD, THE LANGUAGE IS, IT WOULD SPECIFICALLY RESTRICT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY TO ISSUE A PERMIT THAT IMPOSES A MORE BURDENSOME REQUIREMENT THAN A STATE REGULATION ON ANY BUSINESS ACTIVITIES. 
          UH, THE SECOND ITEM ON HERE, THE SOUTH CAROLINA PUT PARENT PUT PARENTS IN CHARGE ACT WAS NOT ONE IN WHICH A POSITION TO OPPOSE WAS TAKEN, NEITHER WAS THERE A POSITION TO SUPPORT. 
          IT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE AND WIDE RANGING DISCUSSION. 
          SO THE ONLY ACTION REQUIRED HERE TODAY OUT OF COMMITTEE IS TO OPPOSE THE HOUSE BILL 30 82, WHICH IS THE, UH, HOME RULE, HOME RULE HOG BILL, IF YOU WOULD. 
          SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION COMMITTEE TO OPPOSE THAT YOU'VE HAD THE MOTION TO, UH, SEND A LETTER IN OPPOSITION TO THE VILLE H 3 0 8 2. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NONE. 
          THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. VAN HAREN. 
          ON THE, DURING THE MEETING, WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON HUNTING ISLAND STATE PARK BY, UH, MR. RAY STEVENSON, THE PARK MANAGER, AND ROBERTA EVERSON, THE PRESIDENT OF FRIENDS OF HUNTING ISLAND. 
          AND I WAS PLEASED TO, UH, TELL YOU THAT THIS WAS A, UH, INFORMATION GATHERING SESSION IN HOPES OF FINDING A WAY TO HELP, UH, PUT THAT PARK ON THE STABLE FOOTING AND FIND A MECHANISM THAT THEY MIGHT USE TO RENOURISH THE, UH, PARK AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING IN WHICH, UH, YOU, MR. BARNHART PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN LETTING FOLKS UNDERSTAND THE LONG STANDING HISTORY OF THAT BEACH OUT THERE BEFORE THE LATEST CHANGE WOULD BE MADE TO ALLOW IT TO ACCELERATE ITS EROSION. 
          UH, THE STATE BUDGET NOW HAS HAD $5 MILLION PUT INTO THIS. 
          SO WHILE THERE'S NO ACTION REQUIRED, UH, RECOMMENDED FROM THE COMMITTEE, IT WOULD BE A REQUEST. 
          I THINK THAT, UH, THIS BOARD MIGHT, UH, THIS GROUP MIGHT TAKE A, AN ENDORSING POSITION TO ASK THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN THAT BUDGET ITEM WHEN IT COMES BEFORE HIM IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. 
          AND SO THERE'S NOT A RECOMMENDATION OUT OF COMMITTEE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AS AN INDIVIDUAL A MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, UH, SEND A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR REQUESTING HIS, 
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UH, CONCURRENCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE $5 MILLION IN THE SENATE OR IN, IN, IN THE STATE BUDGET. 
          STATE BUDGET FOR, UH, HUNTING ISLAND RENOURISHMENT. 
          UH, I NOTICED YESTERDAY AT A MEETING THAT I ATTENDED, A SPOKESMAN FOR THE GOVERNOR WAS THERE. 
          AND, UH, AND HIS COMMENT WAS THAT IN ORDER FOR HIM TO GET OUT OF THAT MEETING ALIVE, HE HAD TO GO BACK AND RECOMMEND TO THE GOVERNOR THAT HE LEAVE THAT $5 MILLION IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO I, I HOPE THAT WORKED. 
          UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION ON THIS QUESTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I THINK AS FAR AS THE, UH, IN THE, UM, THE DOLLAR UP FEE THAT THEY MENTIONED AT THE MEETING, BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, DO YOU THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, UH, PLACED OR, UH, POSITIVE NOTION OF THE BEACH? UH, THANK YOU MR. LATS. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S ANYBODY THAT'S PURSUING THAT AT THIS TIME, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD HOPE TO BRING OUT OF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON WAYS THAT A LONGSTANDING RENOURISHMENT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM FROM THAT BEACH COULD BE PUT IN PLACE. 
          THIS ONE TIME INFUSION OF CAPITAL, IF THE GOVERNOR APPROVED, WILL SLOW THE EROSION ISSUE. 
          BUT, UH, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR A LONGER RANGING PLAN OUT THERE THAT WE WOULD HOPE TO BRING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE, THIS BOARD FOR SOME, UH, UH, ACTION. 
          I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE THEY HAD MENTIONED $1 FEE INCREASE FOR THE PARK. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND SOMEBODY REFRESHED MY MEMORY. 
          I HEARD WHAT THIS $5 MILLION RENOURISHMENT PROGRAM WOULD DO AS FAR AS HOLDING THE BEACH FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND I'VE FORGOTTEN WHAT THAT PERIOD WAS. 
          ACCORDING TO MR. STEVENS, THE BEACH IS CURRENTLY ERODING AT ABOUT 15 FEET PER YEAR. 
          AND AFTER THIS RENOURISHMENT, THE EROSION WILL BE REDUCED TO SIX FEET PER YEAR, BUT IT WILL STILL BE ERODING. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          AND MR. LAMB HAS A COMMENT DOWN THERE BEFORE I CONTINUE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DID WE VOTE ON THAT EVIDENCE? NOT YET. 
          MR. LAMB. 
          UH, TWO POINTS. 
          UH, I THINK BUFORT COUNTY CON CONTRARY TO THE REPORTS, THE PARK DIRECTOR SHOULD CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION TO ATTEMPT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS PARK. 
          UH, CLEARLY, UH, IT, IT'S A, IT IS A COUNTY ASSET AND A COUNTY LIABILITY OF LARGE PROPORTIONS, BUT, UH, IT DOESN'T TAKE A BRAIN SURGEON TO KNOW THAT IF YOU RAISE THE PARK FEE BY A BUCK A YEAR, THAT A MILLION OR A MILLION $300,000 A YEAR SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR TO BEACH NOURISHMENT. 
          AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IN TERMS OF THIS, UH, PARK, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THE GROIN SPILL WAS PASSED. 
          THE, UH, IT, IT, IT, IT SOONER OR LATER WILL BECOME CLEAR TO PEOPLE AT SOUTH CAROLINA THAT OUR EASTERN FRONT ERODES AT A RATHER ENORMOUS RATE. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH THE, UH, ECOLOGIST WILL TELL US TO PUTTING GROINS IN, IT'S NOT A GOOD THING TO DO. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S NOT THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO AT, AT HUNTING ISLAND, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO TRY TO GET JURISDICTION OVER IT RATHER THAN HAVING MONEY BE SPENT THERE AND DISTRIBUTED ELSEWHERE IN THE STATES RATHER THAN BEING UTILIZED FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT PARK. 
          UM, THANK YOU, MR. LAMB, WITH YOUR FORBEARANCE. 
          WE'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE GOVERNOR TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE US THE $5 MILLION TO RENOURISH IT NOW AND CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION AT A LATER TIME, IF YOU'D BE ALL RIGHT. 
          COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. 
          THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ITEMS AND WE MAY PURSUE ON THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR RECOMMENDING THAT HE KEEP THE 5 MILLION IN FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          SEE? NONE THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT? UH, NO. 
          JUST MY PER YES. 
          I THINK, UH, UH, PETER MAY HAVE SAID IT, BEACH RENOURISHMENT IS AN ONGOING THING AND WESTON AND I KNOW WHAT IT IS ON HILTON, THAT'S EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS AT LEAST. 
          AND AT HUNTING ISLAND WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE FREQUENT BECAUSE CHRIS A ROAD AT A, AT QUITE A BIT A YEAR. 
          SO IT'S, THERE HAS TO BE A FUND THAT TO COVER THIS. 
          UH, A ONE SHOT APPROPRIATION WILL TAKE CARE OF IT NOW, BUT WE'LL NEED SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE. 
          YES, FRANK, YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT ON. 
          AND IF THERE'S NOT A PERMANENT STRUCTURE PUT IN PLACE, WHETHER IT'S A BOOK FOR THE BEACH, UH, WHICH DICK SUGGESTED AND HIS COMMITTEE DISCUSSED ABOUT IT, INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS IN ANOTHER THREE TO FIVE YEARS, WE'RE GONNA BE IN A CRISIS MODE AGAIN. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA BE CALLING FOLKS IN COLUMBIA AND SAYING, YOU ALL ARE NOT GOING, GOING TO TAKE THESE REVENUES AND USE 'EM ELSEWHERE. 
          LET US TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS AND HELP SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, BE IN THE POSITION OF PROMOTING AWARENESS AGAIN, UH, IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS, TO, TO MAKE FOLKS THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH HUNTING ISLAND AWARE THAT IT'S A REAL PROBLEM, AND SO THAT THEY STEP UP TO THE TABLE. 
          SO, DICK, I'M, I, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOUR COMMITTEE IS GONNA CONTINUE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, UH, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT VOLUNTEER GROUP, UH, FRIENDS OF HUNTING ISLAND, CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THOSE FOLKS OUT THERE. 
          AND, UM, I'VE EVEN HAD A NUMBER OF CITIZENS CALL ME AND INDICATE THAT THEY'D BE HAPPY TO WORK 
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WITH THE CHAMBERS ON SOME, UH, CITIZEN INITIATIVES THAT, AND ONE OF THE IDEAS THROWN OUT WAS SIMPLY A CAMPAIGN CALLED BUT FOR THE BEACH, UH, SO THAT THESE FEES AND THESE REVENUES AT HUNTING ISLAND ARE DEDICATED FOR A CONTINUING RENOURISHMENT PROGRAM SIMILAR TO WHAT HILTON HAD USES SOME OF ITS ANNUAL, UH, RECURRING FUNDS FOR THE, SO THAT IT'S NOT A CRISIS EVERY FIVE YEARS OF HOW TO GET THIS DONE AND THAT THERE IS A, A SYSTEM IN PLACE AND A SYSTEMATIC PLAN TO ADDRESS, UH, RENOURISHING. 
          SO, UH, IF I MIGHT, UM, WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ON ALTERNATIVES TO CREATE A RECURRING FUND TO OPERATE THIS. 
          BUT I WOULD NOT WANT ANYBODY ANYWHERE TO GET THE PERCEPTION THAT ANY RELAXATION ON THE STATE NEED TO PUT THAT $5 MILLION IN PLACE TO RENOURISH THAT BEACHES ACCEPTABLE. 
          THE STATE HAS BEEN TAKING, AS MR. LAMB SAID, 500 TO 600 $800,000 PER YEAR IN CASH OUT OF THE PROCEEDS OF REVENUES AT HUNTING ISLAND STATE PARK TO MAINTAIN BY THEIR NUMBERS SIX STATE PARKS ELSEWHERE IN THE STATE THAT ARE LOSING MONEY WHILE THIS STATE PARK IS WASHING INTO THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. 
          THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO PERHAPS REPLACE SOME OF THE SAND THAT HAS WASHED AWAY FROM THOSE BEACHES. 
          SO THERE WILL BE AN ONGOING ISSUE IN HERE, BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS LETTER IS NOT ENOUGH. 
          I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY THAT WOULD TO CALL YOUR SENATOR, CALL YOUR, UH, REPRESENTATIVE, AND CALL THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND TELL HIM THAT MR. FOLKS MAY NOT BE KILLED IF HE COMES BACK WITHOUT PASSING THIS STUFF. 
          BUT HE IS NOT GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER STUFF UNTIL WE GET THROUGH SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DEBRIEFING ON THIS ONE. 
          AND I WANNA EXPRESS MY PERSONAL THANKS TO YOU, MR. NEWTON AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PRESS FOR GETTING THIS ISSUE UP ON THE TABLE AT EXACTLY THE RIGHT TIME IN COLUMBIA FOR THIS TO BE PUT IN THE BUDGET. 
          I'M CONFIDENT THAT IF YOU HAD WAITED TWO WEEKS TO DO THAT, THIS WOULD'VE SLIPPED THROUGH UNDER THE RADAR SCREEN AND WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE POSITION WE'RE IN TODAY. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          WE STILL HAVE THE QUESTION ON THE TABLE, OR, WELL, MR. LAMB, I'M SORRY. 
          WELL, I JUST HAD A BRIEF ONE. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT MAYBE CITY FOLKS FORGET IT, BUT IT'S, IF YOU EXPECT THE COW TO GIVE MILK, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO PROVIDE THE COW WITH LITTLE WATER, A LITTLE SALT AND LITTLE FEED. 
          AND THE CAN'T KEEP MILKING THIS COW THROUGH THE FENCE WITHOUT THOSE THREE THINGS. 
          AND COWS LOVE TO WALK ON THE BEACH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE READY FOR THE QUESTION? THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE METHOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND MR. STEWART, UH, JUNE 21ST AT 2:00 PM YES. 
          LAND MANAGEMENT, NO FURTHER REPORTS EXCEPT TO REQUEST YOUR PRESENCE OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE COMMITTEE MEETING ON JUNE THE 21ST AT 4:00 PM MILITARY AFFAIRS. 
          NO FORMAL REPORT. 
          I HOPE EACH OF YOU TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY IN YOUR PACKAGE TO READ THE, UH, LAST REPORT FROM THE JOINT LAND USE STUDY COMMITTEE ON THE ACTIONS TO DATE THAT IN, UM, MAY 25TH AT FIVE TO 7:00 PM AT THE GRAYS HILL COMMUNITY CENTER. 
          THERE WILL BE, UH, ANOTHER SECOND ROUND INFORMATION ON THE JOINT LAND USE STUDY FOR THE ME CORPS STATION. 
          IS THAT MAY 21ST? MAY 25TH. 
          25TH. 
          MAY 25TH. 
          UH, FIVE TO 7:00 PM MR. AND THAT'S FOR THE LISTENING ORDINANCE TOO. 
          TOMORROW, TOMORROW AT 5:00 PM GRAYS HILL IMMUNITY CENTER COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THERE'LL BE A DISCUSSION FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS ON THE JOINT AND LAND USE STUDY. 
          MR. JENNY BECK FROM THE ELK CO. 
          WILL BE THERE. 
          FACILITATOR. 
          THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT. 
          I HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT ONE. 
          BILL, UH, MR. LAMB PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE? YES, SIR. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, WE HAD A VERY LIVELY, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING WITH, UH, A GREAT NUMBER OF FOLK IN ATTENDANCE. 
          UH, THE FIRST MATTER TO TAKE UP THIS EVENING IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF COMMITTEE TO AWARD A ONE YEAR CONTRACT TO W FRASER CONSTRUCTION INC. 
          OF RAVENEL, SOUTH CAROLINA, TO PROVIDE FINE AGGREGATE AND SAND AND PLAY FOR THE PUBLIC WORK FOR BASEBALL MAINTENANCE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. 
          YOU HEARD THE MOTION DISCUSSION. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE SECOND MATTER IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE TO AWARD, UH, AN ADDITIONAL CONTRACT TO WILBUR SMITH ASSOCIATES SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER 20, UH, TO, FOR THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT IN THE AMOUNT OF $521,930. 
          UM, WILBER SMITH IS UNDER AN ONGOING, UH, CONTRACT TO PERFORM SERVICES WITH RESPECT TO HILTON HEAD AIRPORT, AND THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THAT AGREEMENT. 
          COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION, NO SECOND REQUIRED. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LAMB. 
          YOU'VE HEARD THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          IS THERE DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALTHOUGH PLEASE 
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INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE FUNDS, SOMETHING IN THE RANGE OF A HUNDRED PERCENT, UH, IS PROVIDED FOR BY THE FAA 95%, THE STATE, UH, 2.5%. 
          AND THE, UH, AIRPORT ENTERPRISE FUND, 2.5%. 
          THE SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE SECOND IS A, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR AN EXTENSION, UH, OF CONTRACT TO WILBER SMITH. 
          AGAIN FOR LADIES ISLAND AIRPORT, UH, IN THE AMOUNT OF 164,009 OH HUNDRED AND $5 IS AN AMENDMENT TO, UH, AGREEMENT NUMBER 21. 
          COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION, NO SECOND REQUIRED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND AS NOTED IN YOUR COMMITTEE REPORT, UH, THE DISTRIBUTION OF FUND SOURCE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS HE JUST DESCRIBED. 
          YOU HEARD THE MOTION DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MOTION PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          THE THIRD IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE USCB CONTRACT, NEW RIVER PHASE ONE SITE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT NUMBER THREE. 
          IT'S AN AMENDMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $77,281 AND 84 CENTS. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT MR. VAN HARTON PUT THE VARIOUS, UH, PARTIES AT INTEREST UNDER GREAT SCRUTINY AT THE, UH, MEETING, UH, EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT CHANGE ORDERS WITH RESPECT TO THIS CONTRACT, MUCH LESS ANY OTHER CONTRACT. 
          NONETHELESS, THE COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND, UH, AND INCREASED THE MALUS CONSTRUCTION OF $77,281 AND 84 CENTS FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT NUMBER THREE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LAMB. 
          AND, UH, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED WERE SUCCESSFULLY AND POSITIVELY ANSWERED. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU'VE HEARD THE MOTION DISCUSSION SEEN NONE. 
          THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          THOSE OPPOSED MR. BRACKMAN? ARE YOU VOTING I'LL ABSTAIN. 
          ABSTAIN? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE, UH, NEXT, UH, MATTER IS ALSO A-U-S-C-B NEW RIVER TRANSFER OF STORM WATER DRAINAGE. 
          UM, AND IT, IT WAS AN IMPACT ON LANDSCAPING SCOPE AND IT'S A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE IN THE AMOUNT OF $27,165 AS COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION, NO SECOND REQUIRED. 
          SAME COMMENT ON THAT ONE FROM MYSELF AS A MEMBER OF THAT. 
          OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          YOU PUT THEM THROUGH DEEP SCRUTINY, MR. BARNHART. 
          WELL, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT, SO I KNOW THE QUESTIONS THERE. 
          DISCUSSION ONLY YOUR COMMENT? YES, SIR. 
          MR. BUZZ BONE CONTEND THAT HE WOULD NEVER HAVE GIVE ANOTHER CHANGE ORDER. 
          SO I WAS JUST HOPING THAT HE WOULD I SEE HE STEPPED OUTTA IT WRONG. 
          BUT ANYWAY, HE CAN HEAR ON THE MICROPHONE ON THE SPEAKER IN THERE. 
          SO I, HE SAID, NO MORE CHANGE ON THIS. 
          SO I'M GONNA HOLD HIM TO THAT. 
          UH, I'VE LOST TRACK. 
          HAVE WE VOTE ON? NO, SIR. 
          YOU READY FOR THE QUESTION? YES, SIR. 
          YES, THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE MR. B SUSTAIN, I BELIEVE THIS, THIS IS THE LAST ONE FOR ME THIS EVENING. 
          UH, THIS IS A, A REDUCTION IN THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT REQUIREMENT ON LOT NUMBER 3 0 2 OF THE TELFA SUBDIVISION OF LADIES ISLAND. 
          UH, THIS MATTER WAS REVIEWED BY OUR APPROPRIATE STAFF AND, UH, THERE IS NO LONGER A NEED, UH, FOR THE EASEMENT AS CURRENTLY, UH, DESCRIBED. 
          AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO REDUCE FROM 35 TO 25 THE EASEMENT ON LOTS. 
          3 0 2 AND 3 0 3 OF THE TELFA SUBDIVISION LADIES ISLAND A COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION? OH, SECOND REQUIRED. 
          YOU HEARD THE MOTION DISCUSSION? YES. 
          SEE? NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LAMB. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, UH, YES, BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK MS. RAINEY, BECAUSE I GOT SO MANY EMAILS TELLING ME WHEN THIS NEXT MEETING'S GONNA BE, THAT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S ON JUNE THE FIRST OR JUNE THE SECOND, BECAUSE ONE MESSAGE SAID IT'S ON JUNE THE FIRST. 
          THE NEXT ONE SAID IT'S ON JUNE THE SECOND, AND THE NEXT ONE SAID I WAS WRONG THE FIRST TIME. 
          SO I THINK IT'S ON JUNE THE FIRST. 
          AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHICH EMAIL SUPERSEDED WHICH EMAIL. 
          SO I'M GONNA ASK MS. RAINEY TO TELL ME WHEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL TWO TOPIC ONLY PUBLIC SERVICE COMMITTEE MEETING ON, UH, TAKING COUNTY, TAKING ROADS INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM, AND A DISCUSSION OF STORM WATER UTILITIES WEDNESDAY, JUNE 2ND AT 4:00 PM YES, SIR. 
          IN THE USUAL PLACE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE OUR REGULAR, REGULAR MEETING ON JUNE THE 10TH AT 4:00 PM WITH THE USUAL CONGESTED AGENDA, WHICH IF SOME OF US DON'T TALK SO LONG, WE GET IT DONE IN TWO HOURS. 
          BARELY. 
          BARELY, BARELY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          JUNE 2ND AND JUNE 10, 4:00 PM IN THE EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE MEETING. 
          AM I CORRECT ABOUT THE 
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LOCATION? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          NOTHING FURTHER. 
          NO, SIR. 
          TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY GROUP, MR. CHAIRMAN MEETING JUNE OR REQUIRED, ARE THERE ANY COMMITTEES THAT HAVE REPORTS THAT I HAVE OVERLOOKED? NO, SIR. 
          BUT MS. GRIFFIN ASKED ME TO REMIND, SHE REMINDED ME TO MENTION THAT AT HER REQUEST, THE RAILS TO TRAILS FOLKS FROM BLUFFTON WILL BE MAKING A PRESENTATION AT THE UPCOMING INTERGOVERNMENT RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          SHE WANTED THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I ALSO HAVE, UH, LETTERS FROM KAREN HEMAN WITH INFORMATION, AND I, I'VE BEEN GIVING THEM OUT AND I ALSO NOTICED THAT SHE HAD ADDRESSED EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE THE WRONG ONES, GIVE THEM TO WHOEVER AND I WILL GIVE THE OTHER ONES OUT. 
          I HAVE THE ONE THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          FURTHER REPORTS THAT I'M UNAWARE OF THAT NEED TO BE MADE. 
          NONE. 
          BACK TO YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE NOW INTO OUR SECOND OF TWO PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, SESSIONS, UH, FOR THE EVENING. 
          MS. RAINEY, I KNOW THAT I HAVE ONE REQUEST TO SPEAK. 
          UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHERS? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          IF ANYBODY ELSE IS THERE TO SPEAK DURING THIS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION, PLEASE SEE MS. RAINEY AND FILL OUT A FORM. 
          THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION EARLY IN THE MEETING, AND REVEREND YOUNG, I APOLOGIZE THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T CALL ON YOU BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE YOUR SLIP EARLY ON, BUT POLICE ARE COME FORWARD AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOU STAYING AROUND WITH US. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          YOU ALREADY THREW ME LATE FROM THE, UH, THE MEETING. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I ALMOST LOST MY STR OF THOUGHT BY SITTING HERE SO LONG, BUT I WANNA SAY IT TO ALL OF YOU. 
          I WAS VERY MUCH DISTURBED TO FIND OUT THAT ONE COUNCIL, UH, THREE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER AND ONE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER MET AFTER WE HAD THE MEETING IN DALE, CONCERNING SCHOOL, THE HIGH SCHOOL TO BE BUILT IN DALE. 
          AND THAT BOND REFERENDUM WAS PASSED FOUR YEARS AGO. 
          NOBODY FROM SHELDON TOWNSHIP INTERFERED WITH THE BUILDING OF THOSE OTHER SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. 
          WE STAYED OUT OF IT AND NOW TO GET THAT SCHOOL BUILT AND IT BOND  WAS PASSED FOUR YEARS AGO, AND SEVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS MET IN SHELDON TOWNSHIP AT JIM J DAVIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          AND TO MY SURPRISE, AFTER SOME OF COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD A CHANGE OF HEART, DID SOMETHING LIKE A FLOUNDER FISH AND FLOUNDER FISH FLIPPED BOTH SIDES. 
          AND THAT'S THE WAY SOME OF THE YOU ALL DID. 
          AND THAT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE RESIDENTS OF SHELLDON TOWNSHIP. 
          WHY PUT A REFERENDUM ON, ON THE, UH, AGENDA, ON THE BALLOT FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE TO PASS THE REFERENDUM? THE REFERENDUM PASSED. 
          STAB US IN THE BACK. 
          THAT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE, HEARING A READ, READING THE PAPER CONCERNING WHAT Y'ALL SAID ABOUT A LAWSUIT THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED HERE THIS AFTERNOON. 
          BUT I, I, I PASSED SOME FLYERS AROUND AND EXACTLY WHAT THE FLYER SAID TO YOU, THAT, EXACTLY WHAT INTENDED TO BE DONE. 
          SO YOU NEED TO GO TO WORK AND STOP PLAYING GAMES AND BUILD THAT SCHOOL IN DALE WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT. 
          WHEN WE CAME HERE WITH THE SEABROOK STEWART POINT, UH, COMMUNITY PRESERVATION, ONE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER PUT A VOTE ON THE TABLE TO MOVE THAT SCHOOL OUT OF DALE CP AND PUT IT IN SEABROOK POINT, CP. 
          AND THAT CP WAS NOT PASSED. 
          Y'ALL DIDN'T PASS THAT YET. 
          AND IN SEABROOK POINT, CP, WE DID NOT PUT A HIGH SCHOOL IN THAT AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO SCHOOLS THERE. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE, WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. 
          BUT SOMEBODY NEED TO GET UP AND START PLAYING GAMES AND TALKING ABOUT THAT AREA IS NOT A AGRO, UH, IS NOT A GROWING AREA. 
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THERE'S NO GROWTH COMING THERE. 
          I WISH SOME OF Y'ALL HAD READ THE PAPER ON LAST WEEK AFTER THAT SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. 
          IT WAS PROVEN AFTER THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. 
          SO LET'S STOP, START PLAYING GAMES AND BUILD THAT SCHOOL IN DALE WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT. 
          NOW, I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK HERE WITH THIS, A COPY OF THAT. 
          WHAT I JUST PASSED TO YOU IS GOING TO THE STATE NAACP AND IF I HAVE TO GO FURTHER, IT'S GOING TO THE NATIONAL. 
          WE ARE NOT PLAYING GAMES. 
          WE WANT THAT SCHOOL IN DALE. 
          THANK YOU REVEREND YOUNG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE YOU COMING BEFORE US. 
          I AM, UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. 
          AND THIS IS NOT MEANT FOR DEBATE, BUT CLARIFICATION. 
          I'M ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT MET WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WHEN THEY CONTACTED ME AND SAID THAT THEIR OWN DEMOGRAPHER, UH, IE MEANING THE SCHOOL BOARD'S DEMOGRAPHER HAD INFORMATION THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAD BEEN CONSISTENTLY ASKING FOR SINCE 2002, I MET WITH THAT SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND THEN THEREAFTER, COUNTY COUNCIL OR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE BROUGHT THE INFORMATION OUT AMONG ALL OF THE COUNCIL. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS AS WE'VE ASKED SINCE 2002 TO SHARE WITH US THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION, UH, RELATIVE TO THAT SCHOOL. 
          AND THERE ARE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF COUNTY COUNCIL THAT WANT TO SEE THAT INFORMATION, THAT WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT MONEY'S NOT BEING WASTED, UH, BY PLACING THE SCHOOL IN A LOCATION THAT DOESN'T SUPPORT, UH, THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC STUDIES DON'T SUPPORT. 
          SO THE LAWSUITS THAT YOU'VE HEARD MENTIONED, UH, HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          WE'VE NOT TAKEN ANY POSITION ON THAT RELATIVE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          WHAT WE HAVE SAID IS WE'RE ENTITLED UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, THE INFORMATION, AND WE AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE TAXPAYERS WANT THE INFORMATION, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT INFORMATION THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS WHEN IT MADE ITS DECISION TO BUILD THAT THE SCHOOL IN THAT OR ANY OTHER LOCATION WHERE IT IS INTENDING TO BUILD A SCHOOL. 
          WHAT DISTINGUISHES THIS SCHOOL FROM ANY OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY? AND LET ME MAKE THIS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT SOMEHOW THIS IS MOTIVATED BECAUSE IT'S NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY VERSUS SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          THE SCHOOL'S OWN CONSULTANT AND MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD CAME TO US WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SCHOOL. 
          AND THAT WAS NOT THE CASE WITH ANY OTHER SCHOOL. 
          THEY CAME TO US AND SAID THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS SCHOOL BEING BUILT IN THIS LOCATION. 
          SO AS STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY, WE ARE ASKING THE QUESTION AND WE HOPE THAT WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, WE'LL LOOK AT THE SAME INFORMATION THEY'RE LOOKING AT AND COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT THE SCHOOL SHOULD BE BUILT IN WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION IS. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S BUSINESS, BUT WE JUST WANT TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF THE TAXPAYERS THAT WE REPRESENT AND THAT MAKE INQUIRY OF US THAT SAYS THIS $28.7 MILLION IS NOT BEING INAPPROPRIATELY SPENT. 
          IT IS BEING SPENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT DEMOGRAPHIC STUDIES SHOW SO THAT IN FUTURE YEARS WE ARE NOT HAVING TO SPEND MORE IN OPERATIONS DOLLARS ON A SCHOOL THAT WAS IMPROPERLY PLACED AND TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE CLASSROOM. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          AND I'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD. 
          WE JUST WANT TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THEM AND THEY'VE COME IN AND, UH, SHARED CERTAIN INFORMATION AND, AND HAVE FULFILLED THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS THAT WE MADE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS. 
          AND GIVEN US THAT INFORMATION, ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION, GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND, UH, THEN I'M SURE WE MAY HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION WITH THEM, BUT I FEEL CERTAIN THAT, THAT, UH, WE ARE CONTINUING THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT APPARENTLY, UH, THE SCHOOL BOARD ALREADY UNDERSTANDS AND THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE, UH, PLACE FOR THE SCHOOL. 
          BUT I, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, UH, PARTICIPATION HERE AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME TALK TO US. 
          AND, UM, AND WE ARE NOT RAISING ANY QUESTIONS NOW THAT HADN'T BEEN CONSISTENTLY RAISED SINCE 2002, THAT WE WANTED THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION. 
          IN FACT, WHEN WE HAD THE ZONING QUESTION BEFORE THIS COUNTY COUNCIL AND THIS COUNCIL APPROPRIATELY DECIDED, IN MY OPINION, NOT TO TRY TO INJECT THE PLACEMENT OF THAT SCHOOL, UH, WITH ZONING REGULATIONS BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE. 
          AND, UH, A MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL BELIEVED THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDES FOR ONE THING AND THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAD IN PLACE PROVIDE FOR ANOTHER AND THAT THOSE WEREN'T INCONSISTENT WITH THE PLACEMENT OF A SCHOOL. 
          BUT THE QUESTION OF THE EXPENDITURE OF THE MONTH FUNDS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE APPROPRIATELY BEING SPENT AND APPROPRIATELY BEING COMMITTED IS A CONSISTENT QUESTION THAT'S BEEN RAISED BY THIS COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          AND WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO RAISE IT. 
          SO THIS ISN'T ANY NEW REQUESTS THAT WE'VE MADE OR, UH, NEW ACTIVITY ON, ON, ON THE PART OF COUNTY COUNCIL OTHER THAN WE CONTINUE TO ASK 
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FOR THE INFORMATION. 
          WE WANT TO SEE IT. 
          WE'VE RECENTLY BEEN GIVEN SOMETHING AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SOME DETERMINATIONS ON, ON WHAT WE BELIEVE. 
          SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP FOR YOU SO THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD, RATHER THAN READING IN THE NEWSPAPERS, WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE READ ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING, SO THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, ABOUT MY MEETING WITH, WITH COUNCIL, UH, WITH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER PAM EDWARDS AND THEIR CONSULTANT AS WELL AS THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL, FOLLOWED UP BY A PRESENTATION MADE TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. 
          SO IT WASN'T A CLANDESTINE MEETING AS HAS BEEN SUGGESTED. 
          UH, IT WAS A MEETING THAT WAS CALLED AND THEY ASKED, AND MY CAPACITY AS CHAIRMAN, WOULD I BE, UH, HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM, MR. GENERAL AS CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, UH, MR. STEWART, CHAIRMAN OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I'M DELIGHTED TO MEET WITH ANY MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD OR ANY OF THE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE PROMOTE COOPERATION. 
          AND THEN WE TOOK THAT INFORMATION AND THEREAFTER THE FIRST AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITY WAS SHARED WITH ALL OF COUNCIL. 
          SO I THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN PAINTED IN A LIGHT AND SOMETHING OTHER THAN IT IS, BUT IT'S A CONTINUED FACT FINDING, UH, EFFORT BY OUR PART. 
          I DISAGREE AND I THINK I DISAGREE. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND, AND ON TOP OF THAT, UH, THE THREE COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING MEMBERS MEETING WITH ONE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE SIR, IT IS NOT, IT'S ILLEGAL BECAUSE IT DON'T SUPPORT TO BE ONE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER MEET WITH THREE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          YOU REVEREND YOUNG. 
          YEAH, I APOLOGIZE. 
          LEMME CORRECT YOU. 
          IT IS NOT ILLEGAL. 
          AND IT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND I'LL TONIGHT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANY SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER THAT ASK ME TO MEET WITH THEM. 
          THERE IS NOTHING, IN FACT, IN THE SPIRIT OF COOPERATION WORKING TOGETHER, I WOULD HOPE THAT ANY MEMBER OF ANY MUNICIPAL BOARD OR ANY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY IN BUFORD COUNTY FEELS FREE TO CALL ME AT ANY TIME TO MEET WITH ME ABOUT ANY TOPIC THAT WE CAN BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CONTINUE TO PROMOTE COOPERATION AMONG GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. 
          AND, AND SO IT IS, THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I, AND I, AND I DON'T APPRECIATE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IT'S, I I CAN'T HELP WITH YOU, YOU WHAT YOU DON'T APPRECIATE BECAUSE, UH, MORE THAN ONE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS BOARD BEEN AT THAT MEETING AND THE REST OF THE MEMBERS, THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD NIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MR. STEWART. 
          I JUST HAVE A COMMENT TO THE LISTING PUBLIC AND THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE. 
          I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL SINCE LAST JULY AND SINCE THAT PERIOD OF TIME, I MET AT MY REQUEST WITH THREE MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL BOARD TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OFFICE BUILDING THEY WERE PROPOSING IN OKEE, THE GENERAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS COUNTY COUNCIL AND ANY OTHER MATTERS. 
          I ATTENDED THE MEETING IN DALE. 
          I'VE ALSO MET WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM BLUFFTON, FROM HILTON HEAD AND FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT IN THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL, BOTH OF WHICH HAPPEN TO BE, UH, MY PORTION OF MY DISTRICTS. 
          IN BOTH OF THOSE, I'VE MET WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS FROM JASPER COUNTY AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. 
          I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANYBODY AT ANY TIME THAT I CAN WORK IT OUT IN MY SCHEDULE TO HELP ME DO WHAT I'VE BEEN ELECTED TO DO. 
          AND IF ANYONE GETS UPSET ABOUT THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST TO WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR PERSONAL ISSUES AND TRY TO MANAGE THE WAY THEY REACT TO THESE THINGS AND VIEW IT AS SOMEBODY TRYING TO FULFILL THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, NOT SOMEBODY WHO MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, CHANGING THEIR MIND ON SOMETHING WITHOUT GETTING THE FACTS. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU WHO PUT IN SO MUCH TIME IN THESE COMMITTEES TO CONTINUE TO MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE TO THOSE FOLKS LIKE I KNOW YOU DO. 
          AND I THANK YOU FOR IT, MR. BRETT. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD ADD THAT WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE COUNCIL THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, THAT I MET ALONG WITH, UH, RICK CAPAL AND MR. GAITHER AND, UH, WITH THE MARK GENERALS IN A RESTAURANT IN BLUFFTON ACROSS FROM MOSS CREEK AT THEIR REQUEST. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PRESTON. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENT? HEARING NONE ALL MATTERS PROPERLY BEFORE THIS COUNCIL HAVING BEEN HEARD OR DISCLOSED OF THIS MEETING AS.
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