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WELCOME EVERYONE.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, JULY 21ST, AND WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

STARTED BY THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN MISSISSIPPI REPUBLIC COURT STANDS NATION UNDER GOD, THE MIDST WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MR. HAMILTON HEAVEN.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU NOW FOR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY.

FATHER, NOW WE ASK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM SO WE MAY BE WISE ENOUGH TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE FRUITFUL TO OUR COMMUNITY.

FATHER, YOU BLESS ALL THAT IS HERE.

FATHER ACTS THAT YOU GIVE THEM THE SAME CIVILITY TO HIRE US, TO BE PEACEFUL, TO BE RESPECTFUL.

AND FATHER, THESE BLESSING ASK IN YOUR ONLY SON JESUS NAME.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I FIRST WE'LL HAVE THE,

[IV. ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES]

UH, ADOPTION OF THE MEETING WOULD BE THE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF JUNE 9TH.

IS THERE ANY CHANGES OF ANYTHING OR IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

WE'RE GONNA BE TRADING UP A LOT TONIGHT.

YES.

YEAH.

Y'ALL HAVE TO SAY.

ALRIGHT.

WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS OR CELEBRATIONS TONIGHT.

SO WE GONNA START OUT WITH OUR PUBLIC

[VI. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

COMMENTS AND UP FIRST WE WILL HAVE MR. BOB REMAN AND WE NEED TO DO THE SIMON REMAN.

MARY, IF YOU, DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES PER MEETING, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE PERSON IS SPEAKING ON THEIR OWN BEHALF OR AS AN AGENT FOR OTHERS, MEETING ATTENDEES MAY NOT DONATE, TRANSFER YIELD, OR GIVE ALL OR ANY PORTION OF THEIR SPEAKING TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON.

ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE TO BE CONDUCTED FROM THE PODIUM AND DIRECTED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY MEMBER THEREOF.

ALL SPEAKERS SHALL BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE PARTICIPATING IN OR PRESENT AT THE MEETING.

SPEAKERS SHALL BE EXPECTED TO BE CIVIL IN THEIR LANGUAGE AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM COMMENT OR BEHAVIOR THAT INVOLVES DISORDERLY SPEECH OR ACTION, NAME CALLING, PERSONAL ATTACKS, THREATS, OBSCENE OR INDECENT REMARKS AND OR DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS.

ALSO, ALL SPEAKERS SHALL CONFINE THEIR COMMENTS TO ISSUES UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL.

SPEAKERS SHALL NOT USE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO PROMOTE OR ADVERTISE AWARDS, BUSINESSES, SERVICES, GOODS, OR CANDIDATES FOR PUBLIC OFFICE.

ANY SPEAKER THAT VIOLATES THESE RULES AND PROTOCOLS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER.

ANY PERSON WHOSE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RULED OUT OF ORDER SHALL IMMEDIATELY CEASE AND DESIST FROM FURTHER IMPROPER COMMENTS.

THE, THE REFUSAL OF AN INDIVIDUAL TO DESIST FROM FURTHER IMPROPER COMMENTS MAY SUBJECT THE INDIVIDUAL TO REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING AND OR A CITATION UNDER SECTION TWO DASH FOUR NINE OF THE TOWN CODE.

YES, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

UM, MY NAME IS BOB CRIMMON.

I'M BASED HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AS A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE, WHICH IS A 5 0 1 C3 THAT ADVOCATES TO PROTECT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT OF SOUTH CAROLINA'S COAST FOR BENEFIT OF ALL.

WE ENVISION A SOUTH CAROLINA COAST WHERE WILDLIFE THRIVES AIR AND WATER ARE CLEAN AND THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE TO PROTECT IT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

I'M HERE TO ASK FOR THIS COUNCIL AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO TAKE UP AND HOPEFULLY ADOPT AN UPDATED PLASTICS ORDINANCE THAT BEAUFORD COUNTY HAS ALREADY ADOPTED.

EARLIER THIS SUMMER, BEAUFORD COUNTY COUNCIL VOTED TO PASS AN UPDATED PLASTIC ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHES A FRAMEWORK TO REGULATE PLASTIC BAGS, ELIMINATE POLY STYROFOAM, STYROFOAM, INGO PRODUCTS, AND MAKE KARA CUTLERY AND PLASTIC STRAWS AVAILABLE.

UPON REQUEST, THE 2018 PLASTIC ORDINANCE BANNED THIN PLASTIC BAGS COUNTYWIDE, WHICH IS STILL IN PLACE NOW, BUT ALLOWED RETAILERS TO DISTRIBUTE THICKER PLASTIC BAGS LABELED AS REUSABLE, WHICH HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO INDEED NOT BE REUSABLE AND ACTUALLY CAUSE MORE HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT.

THE ORIGINAL OR ORDINANCE ALSO LACKED RESTRICTIONS ON STYROFOAM CUPS AND PLASTIC UTENSILS.

SPECIFICALLY, THIS REVISED ORDINANCE WILL PROHIBIT THICK AND THIN PLASTIC BAGS, ELIMINATE POLISH TYING FOAM PRODUCTS, AND MAKE CARRY OUT COLORY AND PLASTIC STRAWS AVAILABLE BY A CUSTOMER REQUEST ONLY SHOPPERS CAN STILL BRING THEIR OWN PLASTIC BAGS THAT THEY CHOOSE, AND PLASTIC WRAP REMAINS LEGAL FOR RAW MEATS, SEAFOOD, AND LOOSE PRODUCE TO MEET FOOD SAFETY STANDARDS.

THESE CHANGES WILL HELP TO IMPROVE LONGEVITY OF OUR LANDFILLS AND KEEP OUR STORM DRAINS FLOWING, REDUCE WASTE ENTERING THE ENVIRONMENT, AND ROADSIDE LITTER MITIGATE MICROPLASTICS, WHICH IMPROVES THE HEALTH OF PEOPLE AND WILDLIFE, AND OUTLINES OUR REGION WITH POLICIES ALREADY ADOPTED IN THE CHARLESTON AREA FOR THIS ORDINANCE TO TAKE EFFECT.

HOWEVER, THOUGH EACH MUNICIPALITY WHOLLY WITHIN

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BUFORT COUNTY, WHICH INCLUDES BUFORT, PORT ROYAL BLUFFTON, AND HILLHEAD, NEEDS TO ADOPT THE SAME OR SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR LANGUAGE OUTLINED IN THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE.

ONCE EACH MUNICIPALITY ADOPTS THAT ORDINANCE, THE COUNTY AND THE MUNICIPALITY OF EIGHT MONTHS TO TRANSITION TO THIS NEW ORDINANCE SINCE, OR COME OUTTA NOWHERE.

THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN YEARS IN, IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THIS TWO SURVEYS THROUGH RESPONSES FROM MORE THAN 6,000 RESIDENTS.

AND 138 BUSINESSES ARE ACROSS THE COUNTY, AND INCLUDING IN BLUFFTON, SHOWING THE STRONGEST OVERALL SUPPORT FOR BANNING STYROFOAM CUPS AND CONTAINERS.

PRESIDENTS ALSO FAVOR PLASTIC BAND, UM, BAN BY FOUR TO ONE MARGIN WITH BUSINESSES BACKING IT TWO TO ONE PLASTIC STRAWS AND, UM, COLOR WERE A LITTLE MORE SPLIT.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST ONLY ENOUGH OUTRIGHT BANNED.

SO RECOGNIZING THIS CHANGE IS SOMETHING LOCAL SHOP OWNERS WOULD NEED TO ADJUST TO.

BEAVER COUNTY ACTUALLY DOWNGRADED A VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE FROM CRIMINAL MISDEMEANORS TO CIVIL INFRACTIONS.

SO TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT ALL MUNICIPALITIES WILL UPDATE THEIR PLASTIC POLICIES TO ALIGN WITH THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE FOR THE PROTECTING THE REGION WE ALL CALL HOME.

AND I ENCOURAGE BLUFF TO BE A LEADING MUNICIPALITY IN THIS EFFORT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE JACK SHEARER, JACK YOUR A CROSSINGS BOULEVARD PINE CREST COMMUNITY.

I'M HERE TODAY TO CONSIDER OUR OPPOSITION TO ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT TO THE GOLF COURSE.

I'M AWARE THAT THE OF THE PAA HAS BEEN ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY INTEREST IN INQUIRING THE GOLF COURSE WITH THE PARTICULAR CAVEAT.

ANY PURCHASE BY HAA WOULD'VE TO INCLUDE AN AGREEMENT BY HOA, NOT TO OBJECT TO ITS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

I ALSO HEARD THE COURSE IS CONSIDERING INCLUDING A SALE TO UNRELATED PARTIES, THE SALE OF DRIVING RANGE ONLY, AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVES.

LAST YEAR, THE GOLF COURSE SENT A SURVEY IS A SCARE TACTIC THAT MORE THAN THEN 35% OF OUR HOME VALUES WOULD DECREASE.

AS YOU HEARD, FOR MONTHS WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR MONTHS.

THREE SURVEYS RESULTED IN 93% OR MORE OF THE POA ARE OPPOSING ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE GOLF COURSE.

WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE GOLF COURSE HAS TURNED OUT MULTIPLE OFFERS SINCE 2023 TO PURCHASE THE COURSE IN ITS ENTIRETY.

AS A RESIDENT, WE HAD A PINE, A GOLF COURSE, A CLUBHOUSE, A DRIVING RANGE.

IT WAS A PLACE FOR US TO GATHER AND FOR OUR WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.

IF YOU LIVED IN PINECREST, WOULD YOU LIKE THE FOLLOWING? BOOM.

ALL A SUDDEN, YOU HAVE CONSTRUCTION FENCES, HEAVY EQUIPMENT, DUST, MUD, LOUD NOISES FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

WE LOSE THE DRIVING RANGE, POTENTIALLY THE CLUBHOUSE AND GOLF COURSE.

AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE AN EYESORE.

IF YOU, IF YOU LIVED HERE, WOULD YOU LIKE THE FOLLOWING 360 APARTMENTS, 628 PARKING SPACES, A LARGE SCHOOL PERFORMING ART CENTER, OR A CHURCH PARKING LOT? WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR ANNUAL FEES INCREASE FOR SECURITY COVERAGE? TRAFFIC GETS WORSE.

WE ALREADY HAVE OUR PRIVATE ROADS BEING UTILIZED AS A CUT THROUGH TO AND FROM SCHOOL AND WORK.

VARIOUS MOTORIZED VEHICLE CLASS TYPES INCREASE ON OUR ROADS FROM NON-RESIDENTS.

SO WE ARE HOPING THE TOWN CAPSULE TAKES IN THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND CONTINUE TO OPPOSE ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT TO THE GOLF COURSE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY, UP NEXT WE HAVE BRENT LEE .

INTRODUCE MYSELF.

PARDON ME.

INTRODUCE MYSELF.

DO I INTRODUCE MYSELF OR I JUST YES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, WHERE YOU LIVE.

I'M BRENTLEY BARNHILL.

I LIVE AT 10 71 SOUTH INNOVATION DRIVE.

AND TODAY I COME HERE BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THERE'S A PIECE OF SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY SPREADING ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.

AND IT'S ARRIVED HERE IN BLUFFTON.

YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THE CAMERAS AROUND THE CORNERS, BUT WHAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW IS THAT CITY AFTER CITY, THIS SIM COMPANY HAS BEEN CAUGHT SHARING DATA WITH THE FEDERAL AGENCIES OUTSIDE OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS WITHOUT THE REGARD FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AS THEY NEVER APPROVED IT.

OVER 600,000 UNAUTHORIZED SEARCHES IN CALIFORNIA AND ONE CITY ALONE.

THIS WASN'T A HYPOTHETICAL.

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING AND DOZENS OF CITIES HAVE TRUSTED IT BEFORE WE HAVE TODAY, I COME TO SAY FLOCK IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT IT SAYS.

WE HAVE THREE DOCUMENTED LIES TO COUNCILS AND OSHA, WISCONSIN.

THE COUNCIL APPROVED FLOCK IN A CONTRACTING MEETING THE VERY NEXT MORNING.

THE CITY STAFF LEARNED THAT FLOCK HAD MISREPRESENTED MATERIAL FACTS TO THEM DURING THAT SAME APPROVAL PROCESS, FORCING THE COUNCIL TO RECONVENE THE VERY NEXT DAY TO DEAL WITH WHAT THEY JUST LEARNED.

ANOTHER INCIDENT IN MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA, WHERE STATEWIDE LOOKUPS SETTING HAD ALREADY BEEN SILENTLY ACTIVE ON 29 OF THE CITY'S 30 CAMERAS.

SINCE INSTALLATION, WITHOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S KNOWLEDGE, OVER 12 MONTHS, MORE THAN 250 AGENCIES HAD NEVER SIGNED A DATA SHARING AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, AND THEY RAN AN ESTIMATED

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600,000 UNAUTHORIZED SEARCHES.

THIS ISN'T A QUESTION OF WHETHER FLOCK'S TECHNOLOGY WORKS, IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS COMPANY'S REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATIONS TO AN ELECTED OFFICIALS CAN BE TRUSTED ENOUGH BEHIND A CITY CONTRACT.

MULTIPLE CITIES HAVE FOUND OUT AFTER SIGNING THAT THE SHARING DEFAULTS WERE NOT WHAT THEY WERE TOLD INITIALLY.

THE CONTRACT LANGUAGE ITSELF IS THE PROBLEM AND ITS MISUSE SECONDARY.

THE A CLU OF MASSACHUSETTS FOUND THAT BURIED IN THE TEMPLATE'S LANGUAGE.

IT STATED THAT EVEN WHEN A POLICE DEPARTMENT RESTRICTS DATA ACCESS TO ITS OWN, OFFICER'S FLOCKS TEMPLATE AGREES TO GIVE THE COMPANY THE RIGHTS TO DISCLOSE THAT THE DEPARTMENT'S DATA CAN BE SPREAD TO LAW ENFORCEMENT NATIONWIDE AND TO THE FEDERAL AGENCIES FOR INVESTIGATIVE PURPOSES.

LOCAL RESTRICTIONS, SETTINGS DO NOT OVERRIDE THIS NO MATTER WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE COUNCIL.

ANOTHER CASE IN HILLSBOROUGH, NORTH CAROLINA, WHERE IT ENDED ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH FLOCK, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THE TOWN LEADERS WERE FLAGGED WITH CONTRACT LANGUAGE THAT COULD BE READ AS ALLOWING FLOCK TO DISCLOSE DATA TO ANY GOVERNMENT ENTITY OR THIRD PARTY IF THE COMPANY HAD A GOOD FAITH BELIEF DISCLOSURE.

BUT THIS DISCLOSURE, DISCLOSURE WAS NOT WARRANTED A STANDARD THAT THE COMPANY ITSELF GETS TO DEFINE FINE FURTHER WITH THE RECENT ONGOINGS OF ICE.

AND PEOPLE DID NOT LIKING WHAT THEY'RE GOING ON ABOUT CAPTURING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

THEY USE THIS WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION FROM THE LOCAL CITIES IN CALIFORNIA FLOCK'S.

A HUNDRED THOUSAND CAMERAS NETWORK HAS ROUTED LOCAL POLICE DATA TO ICE AND OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION OF THE CITY'S KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT, WHICH APPROXIMATES CAUSE.

I'LL LEAVE THE REST IN WRITING.

THANK YOU.

WHERE SHOULD I PUT THIS

[VII. COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL ]

NEXT? WE HAVE, UH, COMMUNICATIONS FROM ALL THREE OF US UP HERE.

MR. WOOD.

HEY, UM, I'M GOOD MAYOR.

MR. HARRIS.

I HAVE THE GIFT TO BRING ATIONS THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THIS MEETING, BUT SINCE WE WERE SHORT LAST WEEK, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TODAY AND WE'RE GONNA GET IT DONE.

SO GLAD TO BE BACK ON THE JOB.

EVERYTHING IS GOOD.

UM, SO UP FIRST HERE ON OUR FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE OR CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO BLUFFTON.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

DID I SKIP SOMETHING? YEAH, THE

[VIII.1. Wayfinding Master Planning Study to the July Workshop Agenda - CJ Wilson, Sky Design]

WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE WAY FINDING MASTER PLANNING STUDY TO THE JULY WORKSHOP AGENDA.

CJ WILSON SKY DESIGN.

I WANNA INTRODUCE.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

SEE YOU NEXT MONTH.

.

WE'LL BE HERE COUNSEL.

WILL WE GET THEM, UH, TEED UP TO PRESENT HERE? JUST, UM, UM, ALRIGHT.

UM, THESE WERE TWO WORK.

WHAT'S COMING UP ARE TWO WORKSHOP ITEMS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE.

IS THIS AS A WORKSHOP MEETING TONIGHT? SO WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE MORE WORKSHOP, A LITTLE LESS BUSINESS THIS EVENING, BUT, UM, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM IN FOR PROBABLY SIX MONTHS TO COME IN AND TALK TO Y'ALL.

SO I APPRECIATE THEM WORKING.

THIS IS, UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH KIND OF, UM, THE INITIAL, UH, SIT DOWN AND DISCUSSION WITH THEM.

SO WE WANTED TO BRING BACK AND GET COUNCIL'S INPUT ON LOOKING, UM, OUR CURRENT WAY, FINDING DESIGNS WERE DONE ABOUT 10, 12 YEARS AGO.

THOSE, WHEN WE'RE REFERRING TO THE YELLOW AND KIND OF ORANGEISH RED STREET SIGNS, THE WAY FINDING SIGNS AND EVEN THE, THE LITTLE MAPS IN OLD TOWN, UM, WANTING TO LOOK AT, WE'RE AT THE TIME WHERE WE NEED TO EITHER REPLACE, UPDATE, OR JUST, UM, UPDATE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

'CAUSE LIKE THE LETTERING ON THE STREET SIGNS DON'T MEET REFLECTIVE STANDARDS FOR DOT.

THEY'RE STARTING TO FADE IN A LOT OF THE HIGH SUN AREAS.

SO WE'RE DUE TO EITHER UPDATE THEM OR IT GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT 'EM AND SAY, WHEN WE GO TO UPDATE 'EM, DO WE WANNA LOOK AT WAYS TO EXPAND THEM AND MAYBE UPDATE THE LOOK AND MAYBE CHANGE, MAKE 'EM FIT A LITTLE BETTER FOR TODAY.

GET INPUT FROM COUNCIL AND GET DIRECTION ON WHERE WE WANTED TO GO FROM THERE.

SO WE'VE GOT, UM, SCOTT IS OUT ON HERE AND I THINK CJ'S GONNA TAKE THE LEAD ON IT.

AND THEY'RE OUT OF ATLANTA, SO WE TRIED TO SAVE THEM A TRIP DOWN HERE TONIGHT AND GET 'EM IN VIRTUALLY.

SO.

CJ, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.

THANK Y'ALL.

CAN Y Y'ALL HEAR ME OKAY ON YOUR END? YES.

PERFECT.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, MARK.

APPRECIATE THE, THE WONDERFUL INTRODUCTION.

UH, I JUST WANNA INTRODUCE MYSELF, CJ WILSON WITH SCOTT DESIGN.

I'M ASSOCIATE, BEEN WITH THE TEAM 11 YEARS, UH, AND ON THE CALL I HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL TEAM MEMBERS, UH, TIFFANY CHEN, OUR,

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UH, VICE PRESIDENT AND THE, THE HEAD OF, UH, SCOTT DESIGN AND HILLARY PICKARD WHO WILL BE HELPING US MOVING FORWARD.

AND WHAT WE HAVE ON SCREEN TODAY IS, UH, OUR SCHEMATIC DESIGN PACKAGE THAT WE DELIVERED TO THE, UH, TO YOUR TOWN COMMUNITY, UH, LAST YEAR.

AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, UH, DESIGN OPTIONS THAT WE ARE HOPING TO GET COUNCIL'S BLESSING AND APPROVAL ON ONE DIRECTION OR SOME FEEDBACK OF WHICH WE COULD THEN TAKE OUR DESIGN INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.

UH, SO THIS PACKAGE WILL WALK US THROUGH HOW WE ARRIVED AT WHERE WE ARE.

SO WE BEGAN, UH, THIS JOURNEY WAS TAKING A, UH, A SITE VISIT TO YOUR COMMUNITY TO ESTABLISH THE OVERALL, UH, CITY CHARACTER AND, AND THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY AND TRY TO TRAVERSE, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING FROM DESTINATION TO DESTINATION, UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE IN CONTEXT TO THE COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES.

UH, AND THAT LED US TO THEN HAVING A, A VISIONING SESSION WHERE WE, UH, SPOKE WITH A COUPLE OF YOUR, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHERE WE SHOWED THEM A LOT OF IMAGERY AND HAD A LONG DISCUSSION, UH, ABOUT A 90 MINUTE DISCUSSION OF HOW THE, UH, SIGNAGE AND BRANDING SHOULD EVOLVE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN IS THE SMATTERING OF THE RESPONSES WE RECEIVED IN THAT INITIAL VISIONING.

UH, AND THERE WERE THREE KEY THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO OUR TEAM THAT WE WANTED TO CARRY OVER INTO THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN.

UH, KEY ONE WAS, UH, WE WERE NOT, UH, UH, IN LOVE WITH THE CURRENT COLOR SCHEME OF THE EXISTING SIGNAGE THAT'S IN PLACE TODAY.

NUMBER TWO IS THAT THE SIGNAGE THAT IS THERE DID NOT EXPRESS THE CURRENT BRANDING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS, UH, GONE THROUGH AND WAS WANTING TO SEE THAT EXPRESSED IN THE NEW SIGNAGE.

AND THEN THREE, THAT WE WANTED TO INCORPORATE SOME LEVEL OF LOCAL MATERIALITY, SOME LOCAL, UH, PRIDE IN THE SIGNAGE PACKAGE ITSELF THROUGH THE INTRODUCTION OF THE USE OF THE TABBY CONCRETE, UH, MATERIALITY.

AND THAT LED US TO THEN TAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING A LOOK AT THE MAPS AND UNDERSTANDING THE COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES AND RECOMMENDING A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS WHERE WE, UH, STRATEGICALLY LIKE TO PLACE A PRIMARY, UH, WELCOMING MOMENT TO, YOU KNOW, ALLOW PEOPLE, VISITORS, TO KNOW YOU HAVE ENTERED INTO THIS COMMUNITY.

UH, AND THAT IS THE FIRST IMPRESSION OF WHICH A PERSON WILL GET.

AND ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE WOULD BE A REFLECTION OF THIS PRIMARY WELCOMING MOMENT.

AND SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE PRESENTED TO THE TEAM.

UM, WE HAD THE FIRST OPTION, WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL, UH, BLUFFTON ELEVATED.

THIS WAS THE CLOSEST ALIGNED TO WHAT IS EXISTING ON THE PROPERTY, UH, AROUND THE COMMUNITY TODAY.

UH, TAKING CUES FROM WHAT IS THERE, WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING TO SUPPLEMENT YOUR EXISTING, UH, SIGNAGE PACKAGE, BUT ADD IN THAT MAIN WELCOMING MOMENT THAT YOU JUST SAW IN THE THREE LOCATIONS.

THAT'S YOUR BOUNDARIES.

BUT TAKING SOME, UH, HISTORICAL CUES FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, KEY HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND BRINGING THAT INTO THE VISUAL LANGUAGE OF THE SIGNAGE MONUMENT ITSELF IN A VERY CLEAR COMMUNICATED WAY.

IT'S INTENDED TO FEEL VERY, UH, IN PLACE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S INTENDED TO HAVE AN IMPACT, UH, AND FEEL LIKE IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE THERE AND BELONG WITH THE REST OF THE SIGNAGE FAMILY ITSELF.

AND SEE HERE WE HAVE JUST, UH, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT OYSTER TABBY, UH, CONCRETE, UH, AND, AND THE SIGNAGE ITSELF AND BRINGING IN AND WEAVING IN THE, UH, UPDATED BRANDING MOMENTS.

BUT THE CRITICAL ASPECT, UH, THAT DIFFERENTIATES THIS OPTION FROM THE OTHER TWO THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE IS THAT THIS OPTION OPTED TO, UH, REPURPOSE THE EXISTING SIGNAGE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THROUGHOUT YOUR COMMUNITY.

ADDING JUST A NEW LAYER OF PAINT TO CREATE A, A, UH, A MORE, UH, COHESIVE ALIGNMENT WITH, UH, WITHIN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM ITSELF, BUT GIVE IT THAT NICE CLEAN POLISH TO MAKE IT, UH, MORE EXCITING AND, AND A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO READ.

UH, JUST IMPROVING THE CONTRAST, ADDING IN, AS MARK HAD MENTIONED, THE REFLECTIVE VINYL, UH, WHICH WILL BE ALL THE AREAS SHOWN IN WHITE HERE SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THE, UH, THE, THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE SIGNAGE SYSTEM ITSELF.

AND THEN OPTION TWO, UH, WAS WHAT WE'RE CALLING OYSTER ELEGANCE.

UH, THIS TAKES A, A BIT OF THE CUES FROM THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL LANGUAGE OF THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

WHEN WE WERE WALKING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, WE SAW A LOT OF THIS SHIPLAP, UH, STYLE OF BUILDING.

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UH, AND THERE WAS A, A LOT OF THE, THE OYSTER TABBY, UM, CONCRETE BRICKS THAT, AND, UH, WE SAW THAT IN A LOT OF THE, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION AROUND THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

SO WE REALLY WANTED TO CELEBRATE BOTH OF THOSE DESIGN MOTIFS AND THE SIGNAGE PACKAGE ITSELF, BUT IN A MUCH MORE MODERN AND CONTEMPORARY, UH, RECTILINEAR FORM FACTOR.

BUT STILL HAVING A LEVEL OF ORGANIC FEELING AND INTRIGUE INFUSED INTO THE SIGNAGE FAMILY ITSELF.

AND, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IMPROVING THE HEIGHT AND, AND THE, THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE OF THE WAY FINDING, GETTING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, REALLY MAKING THIS STAND OUT.

ONE THING THAT WE HAD NOTED WAS THE EXISTING SIGNAGE IS VERY EASY TO, UH, TO MISS, UH, WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY JUST DUE TO THE, UH, ABUNDANCE OF VEGETATION.

SO JUST WANTING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF, UH, SQUARE, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SIGN ITSELF SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THE SIZE AND THE DISTANCE OF, UH, LEGIBILITY OF THE MESSAGING.

YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, JUST HOW THESE COMPARE MUCH LARGER IN SCALE, BUT AS I HAD MENTIONED, IF OPTION ONE WAS UTILIZING THE EXISTING SIGNAGE THAT'S THERE, OPTIONS TWO AND THREE ARE LOOKING AT COMPLETELY DEMOING THE EXISTING SIGNAGE AND RE UH, REINSTALLING A BRAND NEW SIGNAGE SYSTEM ACROSS YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, OUR OPTION THREE IS WHAT WE ARE CALLING WETLANDS MINIMAL, A MUCH MORE SCULPTURAL, UH, ABSTRACTED APPROACH TOWARDS A SIGNAGE PACKAGE, TAKING A LOT OF CUES AND REFERENCE FROM THE WETLANDS AND THE, THE WINDING MOMENTS OF THE, UH, THE, THE NATURAL ELEMENTS THERE AND TRYING TO WEAVE THOSE INTO THE FORMS, BUT ALSO ALLUDING TO TOWARDS THE, UM, THE, THE COASTAL WAY OF LIFE THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS.

UH, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE A REFERENCE TO WHAT WE, UH, WERE TRYING TO ALIGN TO A, A SAIL, A SHIP SAIL, UH, AND HAVING SOME OF THESE MORE NAUTICAL MOMENTS, UH, INFUSED, BUT IN A, NOT IN A VERY ABSTRACT AND NOT OVER THE TOP IN YOUR FACE WAY INTO THE SIGNAGE.

SO YOU'LL SEE HERE HOW WE ARE STARTING TO INTRODUCE THESE ELEGANT WINDING SCULPTURAL MOMENTS TO INTRODUCE THE, THE WELCOMING MOMENT AND THEN HOW THE ABSTRACTED DOWN SAIL, UH, BOAT SAIL, UH, LANGUAGE STARTS TO WEAVE ITSELF INTO THE WAYFINDING MESSAGING ITSELF.

AGAIN, INTRODUCING LARGER PANELS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE LARGER COPY, UH, AND MAINTAIN THAT DARK BACKGROUND, UH, REFLECTIVE VINYL COPY OF STRATEGY.

SO THAT LEADS US TO OUR THREE OPTIONS.

SO AGAIN, WE ARE HOPING TO GET COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON THESE THREE DIRECTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, FURTHER PUSH THESE SIGN SYSTEMS INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT BASED OFF OF YOUR FEEDBACK OR WHICHEVER, UH, DIRECTION YOUR TEAM PREFERS AND JUST WANTING TO CLOSE OUT WITH, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE GET YOUR FEEDBACK, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE, UH, THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND TO GATHER ADDITIONAL LEVELS OF FEEDBACK FROM YOUR TEAM AND THEN DO ANOTHER ROUND OF DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AS NEEDED BEFORE WE GO INTO, UH, THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE FULL DESIGN INTENT.

SO A REMINDER, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE SCHEMATIC PHASE, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO MOLD THIS TO YOUR PREFERENCES AS, AS, UH, AS WE RECEIVE YOUR FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU.

AND HAPPY TO RECEIVE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO JUST TO REITERATE WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THEM IS THESE ARE KIND OF, YOU CAN SEE THEY KIND OF VARY FROM, I'M GONNA SAY KIND OF CONSERVATIVELY BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE NOW INTO A LITTLE MORE ARTISTIC ABSTRACT AS WE GO THROUGH.

SO THERE'S A VARYING SETS OF OPTIONS IN THERE.

WANTED TO HEAR WHAT COUNCIL'S INPUT IS SO THAT WE CAN THEN MAYBE AMEND TO NARROW DOWN TO ONE, TRY TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH, IF YOU LIKE, ASPECTS OF THE ONE, BUT YOU ALSO LIKE ASPECTS OF THE OTHER, WE CAN TRY TO WORK WITH SKY DESIGN TO KIND OF MERGE THOSE TOGETHER, GET TO THE, UH, LIKE HE SAID, THE 66, 60%, UM, NEXT SET OF SCHEMATICS, BRING THOSE BACK, MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH, AND THEN TRY TO FINALIZE SOMETHING.

THE GOAL WOULD BE, SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, IS TO TRY TO GET THIS DONE THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET LOOK TO START PUTTING MO MONEY ASIDE TO START PHASING INTO WHETHER IT'S UPDATING THE ONES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND KEEPING WHAT WE HAVE.

IF COUNCIL'S GOOD WITH THAT OR, OR THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANNA GO.

OR IF WE CHOOSE, WE WANT TO CHANGE AND GO TO A DIFFERENT DESIGN, START CHANGING

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THOSE OUT NEXT, NEXT BUDGET YEAR.

UM, COMMENTS FROM MR. WOOD? WELL, DID I HEAR CJ SAY THAT THEY HAD SPOKEN WITH PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, STAFF? STAFF, HE SPOKE TO THE STAFF WITHIN THE, THE TOWN? YES, SIR.

I'D BE CURIOUS TO WHAT SOME OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS WOULD VOICE AN OPINION ON SOME OF THIS.

AND, UM, I, UM, I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT HERE THIS EVENING, IT WOULD BE VERY SIMPLE FOR THE OTHER TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VOICE AN OPINION TO YOU ON THIS.

AND I DID SEND OUT THE SCHEMATICS EARLY SO THE COUNCIL HAD A CHANCE AND FOR THOSE TWO THAT WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND I'LL SEEK FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS WELL.

AND, UM, FOR ME PERSONALLY, WITH THE THREE OPTIONS AVAILABLE, I'M NOT A FAN OF NUMBER THREE.

UM, I KINDA LIKE NUMBER TWO, ALTHOUGH WHERE IT SAYS BLUFFTON, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK UNDERNEATH IT, IT COULD STILL SAY HEART OF THE LOW COUNTRY.

AND UH, AND THEN UNDER NUMBER TWO, I DON'T LIKE THE, UH, THE SIGN WITH THE DOUBLE POST COMING DOWN.

LIKE THAT SHOWS THAT ONE, MAYBE ONE OF THOSE PULL DOWN FROM OPTION ONE, BUT THAT'S JUST ME AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HEAR MORE INPUT FROM, FROM OTHERS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IF IT, IF SPEAKING WITH STAFF, WHAT DID STAFF LEAN TOWARDS? SO WHAT OUR INITIAL CONVERSATION WITH THEM, WITH STAFF WAS TO PROVIDE THESE OPTIONS, THESE THREE OPTIONS.

AND WE TRIED, LIKE I SAID, WE TRIED TO RANGE THEM FROM MORE ABSTRACT AND, AND I, UM, CJ I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL SLIDE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE DIFFERENT, UM, LIKE THE VISIONING.

SO, UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THEY KIND OF WENT THROUGH THESE FIVE CATEGORIES AND THEY WERE LIKE, WOULD THE TOWN BE MORE MINIMALIST OR MORE MAXIMALIST? AND SO THE EXAMPLES YOU CAN KIND OF SEE MAXIMALIST IS IT'S VERY BUSY, IT'S, IT'S AUDACIOUS, IT'S GONNA DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IT.

VERSUS MINIMALIST IS MORE, SAME THING WITH BOLD VERSUS SUBTLE.

LIKE DO YOU WANT THE WORD SUBTLE? FOR EXAMPLE, I'D GIVE AS LIKE CORD, ATKINS SIGN WHERE WHEN YOU DRIVE BY DURING THE DAY, THE WORDS ALMOST BLEED IN TO THE BACKGROUND VERSUS DO YOU WANT YOUR WORDING TO STAND OUT.

AND UM, SO WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH AND WHAT WE DID IS WITH THEM, AND IT'S WHEN THEY SAID THEY MET WITH, UM, TOWN, IT WAS US TO GO THROUGH AND KIND OF SAY, WHERE DOES OUR TOWN KIND OF LEAN MORE ON WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SEE? AND THAT'S WHERE THEY CAME BACK WITH THESE THREE DESIGNS AND KIND OF GAVE THE RANGE FROM, WE KNOW YOU ALREADY LIKE THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT IN ORANGE AND YELLOW OR BURNT OR FADED RED AND YELLOW NOW TO SOME OF THESE ALTERNATIVES.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE TOOK THIS TO COME TO THIS POINT TO SEE AGAIN, ARE WE ON THE RIGHT PATH OR, OR COMPLETELY ON THE WRONG PATH.

UM, FRED COMMENTS FOR ME BEFORE I BOB GOT UP.

YOU WANT HIM TO GO BACK TO THE THREE OPTIONS? OKAY.

UM, I REALLY WISH WE HAD SOME BUSINESS OWNERS AND SOME RESIDENTS, UH, TALKING WITH, WITH THE CONSULTANTS ON THIS.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE WHO WE TRYING TO, TO, TO PLEASE STAFF, UM, PROBABLY DID DO A GOOD JOB OF BRINGING THESE OPTIONS.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE THE, UM, AND, AND PROBABLY MORE MORE IMPORTANTLY THE BUSINESS OWNERS A CHANCE TO, TO HAVE A WAY IN WEIGH IN ON ON ON THESE OPTIONS.

THE, THE LARGE SIGN, WHICH IS ONE AND TWO RIGHT HERE, WHERE WOULD THEY GO? UH, SO THE EXAMPLE HE SHOWED WAS AT 2 78 AND ONE 70 WHERE THAT INTERCHANGE IS UP ON THE, ON THE GRASS THERE COMING INTO TOWN.

THAT WOULD BE, 'CAUSE TECHNICALLY THAT IS YOUR ENTRANCE AND WHENEVER YOU COME IN THAT ONE CORNER ON THE SIDE OVER THERE IS THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, THEN THE OTHER THREE ARE NOT.

SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR, YOUR ENTRANCE ON 2 78 WHERE THE SOUTH SIDE'S IN THE TOWN.

UM, THAT'S LIKE SAYING SUN CITY, HILTON HEAD .

WELL, UM, AND AGAIN, PART OF THE CONVERSATION IS DO YOU EVEN WANNA SEE THOSE OR DO YOU WANT US TO STAY WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST AN OLD TOWN AND THEN THERE'S SOME MINOR ONES ALONG THE WAY TO DIRECT YOU TO OLD TOWN OR TO, UM, THE, THE BIGGER ONES WOULD BE

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A NEW FEATURE.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE WAY FINDING SIGNS THAT YOU SEE DOWN THERE WHERE IT SAYS OLD TOWN BLUFFTON.

THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU SEE OUT THERE NEAR LIKE NEW RIVERSIDE TRAIL.

THAT'S THE SCALE AND SCOPE WE HAVE.

NOW.

WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS A LITTLE BIGGER.

SOME OF 'EM ARE A LITTLE BOLDER AND UH, BUT THE LOCATION COULD BE ALTERED AT ANY TIME.

YES.

YEAH, I THINK AND, AND AGAIN, THE PHASE IN COULD BE THAT WE REPLACE THE ONES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST NOW AND THEN WE EXPAND AND DO THE BIGGER STUFF OR LOOK AT THE BIGGER STUFF IN THE FUTURE.

UM, THE INPUT FROM THE RES FROM BUSINESSES COMMUNITY AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT.

WE WANTED TO GET THROUGH THIS FIRST STEP BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANNA DO IS SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND GIVE THEM 50 OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM AND HAVE 'EM DIVIDED OVER 50 OPTIONS.

WE WOULD RATHER SIT DOWN WITH Y'ALL AND NARROW DOWN TO TWO GOOD OPTIONS, SO TO SAY, AND THEN GO BACK TO THEM AND SAY, COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE KIND OF LOOKING AT THESE.

GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK COMMENTS.

BECAUSE AGAIN, IF YOU OPEN IT UP TO, YOU KNOW, TOO MANY OPTIONS, WE, WE WE'RE GONNA END UP SPLIT AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE HOPING TO GET THROUGH THIS 30% WAS TO NARROW DOWN.

SO IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS TO GO, WE CAN THEN SIT DOWN WITH SOME BUSINESS OWNERS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE CHAMBER, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH OLD TOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION, UM, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND SIT DOWN AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

THE, UM, I CAN'T TELL WHAT OPTION THIS IS, BUT ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, ON THE TOP RIGHT, THE MIDDLE SIGN IS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE.

THE GREEN.

YES.

AND THAT'S AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW, RIGHT? AND IT WOULD BE, UM, JUST UPDATING THE COLOR SCHEME AND THE WORDING TO MATCH OUR 'CAUSE AGAIN, THESE WERE ALL DONE PRE OUR HEART OF THE LOW COUNTRY REBRAND.

SO THIS WOULD BRING THEM UP TO OUR CURRENT BRANDING STANDARDS.

UM, WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO GO WITH, I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE THIS TO STAY WHO WE ARE.

YOU KNOW, THESE ARE BEAUTIFUL.

UM, AND THEY, Y'ALL HAVE A PLACE IN SOMEWHERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGNS, WHETHER IT'S THE MODERN ONE ON NUMBER THREE OR WHATEVER, UM, I APPRECIATE AND WOULD TOTALLY WANT TO THINK, YOU KNOW, THE TABBY LOOK, WE'VE INSISTED ON OUR HOME BUILDERS TO INCORPORATE IN THEIR SKIRTING AND THEIR STEPS AND THEIR SIDEWALKS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS.

UM, I, I THINK SHOULD BE CARRIED ON BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE, SHOWS A LITTLE PART OF OUR HISTORY ALONG WITH THE WATER.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS JUST 'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF MY LIFE, BUT , YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT FAMOUS FOR A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS.

SO I WOULD MUCH RATHER IT STAY KIND OF IN, IN CONTROL OR, OR IN VISION OF WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE ARE THEN LIKE SOME BIG BRAND NEW STAR WARS CITY THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO COME INTO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S JUST ME.

SIMPLE IS GOOD, OLD IS BETTER.

SO JUST BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL TONIGHT, IT SOUNDS LIKE OPTION THREE WOULD BE ONE THAT WE WOULD DROP AND THEN MAYBE CONTINUE TO HASH OUT OPTION ONE, WHICH INCLUDES THE, THE BIGGER NEW ENTRY SIGNS AND THEN KIND OF THE REPURPOSING.

AND THEN MAYBE LOOK AT OPTION TWO FOR WAYS I, I KNOW WE HEARD FROM COUNCILMAN WOOD ABOUT WHETHER THE TWO POSTS OR WHETHER THAT'S TOO MU TOO BIG OR TOO MUCH, UM, MAYBE HASH THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT TO PROVIDE A COUPLE OPTIONS AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM OUR BUSINESSES AND STUFF TO SEE WHAT THEIR INPUT IS.

YEAH, I, I THINK THAT GETTING MORE INPUT, THIS IS PART OF OUR IDENTITY OF WHO WE ARE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S A BIG MOVE, UM, TO IMPROVE WHAT WE DO HAVE.

AND SO YEAH, I, I THINK WHEN YOU GET MORE FEEDBACK THAT WILL LEND MORE CLARITY TO IT AND EVEN HELP US OUT.

AND THE OTHER TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE MAY COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT MAKES MORE SENSE THAN WE, OR EVEN SEEING.

SO, UM, ALSO JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GO AND US GO GET COMMENT AND EVERYBODY LOVES NUMBER THREE ACCOUNT CAN BE LIKE NUMBER THREE.

NO, I THINK I THINK YOU HAVE A LOT TO WORK WITH ONE AND TWO.

YEAH, I AGREE.

AND AGAIN, THE OTHER PEOPLE MAY GO, THEY, WELL, NUMBER TWO, THEY MAY LIKE THE DOUBLE POST SIGN.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT LOCKED IN ON ANYTHING.

I JUST LIKE TO HEAR MORE FEEDBACK AND, AND, AND SO THE COUNCIL'S GOOD WITH THAT.

AGAIN, WE WORKSHOPPING THIS, THIS IS NOT ASKING Y'ALL TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT, JUST REALLY AGAIN, WHAT YOU'VE PROVIDED, WHICH IS DIRECTION FORWARD.

SO WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND WE'LL GET WITH, UM, SCOTT ANTS AFTER THIS, OR EXCUSE ME, SCOTT DESIGN, SCOTT ANTS MOVIE, UH, SKY DESIGN AND, UM, WORK WITH THEM AFTER THIS TO HASH IN, HASH OUT NUMBER ONE AND TWO OPTIONS A LITTLE MORE.

UM, I'LL GET WITH STAFF AND WE'LL

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WORK ON, UM, WORKING WITH SOME BUSINESS COMMUNITY GROUPS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY YOU RECOMMEND THAT YOU WANT US TO GET INPUT FROM, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU LET ME KNOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TONIGHT, BUT WHAT I DO, THERE'S TWO BUSINESS OWNERS SITTING RIGHT OVER THERE I'D LOVE, OKAY.

YEAH.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, STEVEN, FOR US TO MAKE A, YOU KNOW, FRED, UM, COSTING THINGS ALSO MATTERS.

SO IF THEY COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL RIGHT HERE AND THIS IS WHAT WE THINK WE WANT, BUT IT'S 12 TIMES MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD SLOW THINGS DOWN TOO.

SO JUST SOME KIND OF AGREE.

WE'LL MAKE SURE WE WORK ON THAT AS WELL.

SO THE, THE NEXT TIME WE BRING IT BACK TO WORKSHOP WITH YOU, WE'LL BE FURTHER ALONG, HAVE INPUT AND HOPEFULLY, UH, COME BACK WITH SOME, UH, OPTIONS THAT, UH, SUPPORT FOR BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY AND, UH, BRING Y'ALL SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN IMPROVE.

SO THANK YOU.

YEP.

THANK YOU CJ AND TEAM, I APPRECIATE IT.

WILL AND, UH, MARK, AND I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU, UH, NEXT FEW DAYS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

[VIII.2. Update and Discussion Related to Proposed Uses at the Buck Island Road Park - Pat Rooney, Capital Improvement Program Manager ]

UPDATE, AND SOMETHING RELATED TO PROPOSED USES AT THE BUCK ISLAND ROAD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

YES.

I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC INPUT WE'VE RECEIVED FOR THE BUCK ISLAND ROAD PARK.

UM, I'M GONNA FLIP THROUGH THESE PRETTY FAST BECAUSE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, BUT YOU'VE SEEN THESE P PRIOR AND THIS IS A SITE, IT'S LOCATED AT BUCK ISLAND ROAD AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY.

IT'S 15.12 ACRES, UH, AND 8.53 OF THAT IS UPLAND ACREAGE.

THIS WAS A, AN IMAGE THAT I PRESENTED IN THE LAST MEETING THAT SHOWED WHAT WOULD FIT ON THAT 8.51 ACRES OF UPLAND ACREAGE.

AND ESSENTIALLY THIS IS AN OVERLAY SUPERIMPOSED OF, UH, OYSTER FACTOR OR OSCAR FRAZIER PARK ON TOP OF THE UPLAND ACREAGE AT BUCK ISLAND ROAD PARK.

SO EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THE ROAD REASON WOULD FIT, BUT OBVIOUSLY NONE OF THE, THE BALL FIELDS WOULD FIT ON THE SITE.

SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, WE KIND OF MET WITH, UM, A CONSULTANT, WOODEN PARTNERS WITH THE EXECUTIVE STAFF, AND WE KIND OF CAME UP WITH THINGS WE THOUGHT MIGHT FIT ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THOSE INCLUDED A PAVILION WITH RESTROOMS, A SMALL COMMUNITY BUILDING, PLAYGROUNDS, MULTIPURPOSE FIELD FOR PICKUP SPORTS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A REGULATION SIDE SIZE FIELD.

WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE OPTION OF DOING SYNTHETIC TURF AS OPPOSED TO NATURAL GRASS, UH, AS AN OPTION.

UM, PERIMETER TRAILS AND BOARDWALKS SPORTS COURT, LIKE BASKETBALL OR VOLLEYBALL, UH, FLEXIBLE PLAY AREAS FOR LONG GAMES LIKE BOCCE AND HORSESHOE AND CORNHOLE.

AND THEN PUMP TRACK WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

UH, AND I PRESENTED THAT AT THE LAST MEETING, I'LL SHOW YOU AN IMAGE OF IN A SECOND.

UM, AND THEN DUE TO SPACE AND LIMITATIONS AND MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS, WE, WE DISCUSSED THINGS THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T WORK HERE.

UH, LIKE THE REGULATION SIZE, SOCCER FIELDS OR BASEBALL COMPLEX DOG PARK, SPLASH PAD, HIGH MAINTENANCE ITEM, UH, SKATE PARK.

SO THE ITEMS THAT I KIND OF PUT AN ASTERISK BESIDE ARE ITEMS THAT, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE IN ANY OF OUR OTHER PARTS LIKE THE, THE SYNTHETIC TURF FIELDS OR BOARDWALK VOLLEYBALL, BOCCE HORSESHOES, CORN BALL, PUMP TRACK.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE NEW TO THIS OR UNIQUE TO THIS PARK.

AND WE TRY TO DO THAT ON OUR PARKS, COME UP AT LEAST ONE ITEM THAT IS UNIQUE TO THAT PARTICULAR PARK.

AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THESE TOO MUCH, BUT THIS, THESE ARE THE IMAGES THAT WE PRESENTED IN ALL OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENTS, UH, TO KIND OF GIVE PEOPLE A VISUAL IMAGE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

THESE WERE THE VERTICAL STRUCTURES, LIKE A SMALL COMMUNITY CENTER AND, UH, PICNIC SHELTER, DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIELDS, VOLLEYBALL COURT, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF MULTI-USE TRAILS, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, PLAY EQUIPMENT, FITNESS, BASKETBALL, SHELTERS, LAWN GAMES, ZIP LINE AND AMPHITHEATER.

SO THOSE, THOSE WERE THE KIND OF IMAGES THAT WE USED TO KINDA, UH, OBTAIN PUBLIC INPUT.

UM, BACK IN MARCH OF 2025, THIS IS WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU IN OCTOBER, WAS THE EXERCISE THAT STEVE AND HEATHER AND KEVIN DID WHEN THEY INVITED TO CAREER DAY, THEY TURNED THE TABLE ON 'EM AND ASKED THEM TO GIVE THIS THEIR OPINION OF WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE ON THE SITE.

UH, AND THEY WENT THROUGH THIS EXERCISE.

THEY WERE EACH GIVEN THREE DOTS AND THEY WERE ASKED TO, UM, PUT A DOT ON THE IMAGE THAT THEY PREFERRED AT THE PARK.

THE RESULTS OF THIS, UM, WAS, UM, THE

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TOP 10 ITEMS WERE SAND VOLLEYBALL, COURT, ARTIFICIAL TURF, OPEN SPACE, ZIP LINE, UH, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, WETLAND, WILDLIFE VIEWING, PUMP TRACK, ADVENTURE, FREE PLAY NIT, FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND PRACTICE, SOCCER FIELD, AND A COVERED BASKETBALL COURT.

SO THOSE ARE THE TOP 10 ITEMS FROM THE SIXTH, SEVENTH, AND EIGHTH GRADERS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO AT THAT TIME, YOU ASKED US TO GO OUT AND GET ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM, AND WE WENT OUT, WE, UM, ADVERTISED FOR AN OPEN HOUSE AT THE ROTARY CENTER BACK IN FEBRUARY.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF PARTICIPATION.

UM, BUT WE, WE GOT SOME INFORMATION.

WE PUT 'EM THROUGH THE SAME GENERAL EXERCISE OF DOING A DEMOCRACY, PUT DOTS ON WHAT YOU PREFER.

AND THE, THE TOP ITEMS REALLY FROM THAT GROUP, WHICH WAS MOSTLY ADULTS, WAS MULTIPURPOSE FIELDS.

EITHER NATURAL ARTIFICIAL BASKETBALL COURT, PICNIC SHELTERS, AND OPEN SPACE AMPHITHEATER.

THOSE KIND OF THE HIGHEST LEVEL.

THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN WAS COMMUNITY, UH, INDOOR COMMUNITY CENTER, PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, UH, OUTDOOR FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND ZIP LINE.

AND NEXT LEVEL DOWN WOULD BE WETLAND, BOARDWALK TRAILS FOR JOGGING, WALKING.

AND THEN THE, THE LAST THREE ITEMS REALLY HAD, WERE NOT, DIDN'T GET A WHOLE LOT OF INTEREST FROM THE WHOLE GROUP.

SO, UM, AFTER THAT EXERCISE WE, WE TRIED TO GET ANOTHER, UM, PUBLIC INPUT SESSION ORGANIZED AT THE, UM, AT THE SCHOOL CAMPUS, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OVER THE SUMMER, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO WE SPENT, WE WON A DIFFERENT ROUTE.

WE SENT OUT, UM, SURVEYS, 900 OF 'EM TO ALL THE RESIDENTS IN BUCK ISLAND, SIMMONS, AND PINE CROSS.

AND THIS IS, WE, WE SENT OUT WITH A SELF ADDRESS STAMP POSTCARD THAT WE ASKED THEM TO, YOU KNOW, WE GAVE 'EM A INFORMATION SHEET AND THIS CARD TOLD 'EM THAT IT'S, IT'S ALREADY GOT POST SHEETS ON IT, JUST SEND IT BACK AND LET ME GIVE YOU A COPY OF SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT I, WHAT WAS SENT.

SO, UH, WE GOT OVER 200 RESPONSES, WHICH IS A PRETTY GOOD RESPONSE LEVEL FOR THAT.

UM, AND IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE, UM, THE RANKING OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, TYPES OF RECREATIONAL USES, UH, THE TRAILS WERE KIND OF THE NUMBER ONE AND NATURE BOARDWALK AND WILDLIFE VIEWING WAS THE SECOND MOST POPULAR ITEM.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SURVEY, IT WAS MORE OF A HIGH INTEREST TO LOW INTEREST.

YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, THEY WERE ASKED TO KIND OF RANK 'EM.

UH, IF, IF IT'S SOMETHING THEY REALLY STRONGLY WANTED TO SEE, THEY PUT IT AT EXTREMELY NEEDED OR IF THEY DIDN'T WANNA SEE IT ALL THEY COULD PUT NOT AT ALL.

SO THE FIRST TWO COMMS ON THE LEFT REALLY ARE KIND OF THE HIGH INTEREST ITEMS AND THEN THE TWO COLUMNS ON THE RIGHT ARE THE LOW INTEREST ITEMS, AND THEN SOMEWHAT IS KIND OF A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT KIND OF OPINION.

SO THE TRAILS WERE IMPORTANT.

NATURE ACCESS TO NATURE WAS IMPORTANT KIND OF.

UM, THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN WAS PLAY FOR ZIP LINE, OPEN SPACE, PLAYGROUND.

THOSE KIND OF THINGS WERE IMPORTANT, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THOSE FIRST TWO ITEMS. AND THEN KIND OF THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN FROM THAT WOULD BE THE SPORTS COURTS.

UM, AND THEN COMMUNITY FACILITIES LIKE THE STAGE, THE MEETING FACILITY AND THE PICNIC SHELTERS.

SO, UH, AND THEN OF COURSE THE LEISURE ACTIVITIES WERE, UH, KIND OF NOT RANKED VERY HIGH AT ALL.

SO I TRIED TO SYNTHESIZE, YOU KNOW, OR SUMMARIZE, OH WAIT, ONE MORE ITEM.

THEY WERE ASKED AT THE BOTTOM, IF THEY HAD SOMETHING ELSE THEY WANTED TO SEE AT THE PARK, THEY COULD PUT IT RIGHT IT IN AT THE BOTTOM.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A SPLATTER WORD CHART OF THINGS THAT WERE, WERE MENTIONED, BUT UNFOR, I DON'T REALLY, UM, MOST OF 'EM WERE ONLY MENTIONED ONCE, YOU KNOW, UH, PICKLEBALL THE DOG PARK AND THE SPLASH PAD HAD THREE PEOPLE HAD ACTUALLY REQUESTED THOSE THINGS.

SO OUT OF THE 200 SURVEYS, IT'S PRETTY LOW LEVEL OF STATISTICAL, UH, STATIC, UH, SIGNIFICANCE OF WHAT THESE, UM, WORDS WERE IN TERMS OF.

SO WE DIDN'T REALLY GET ANYBODY THAT SAID THERE WAS, WEREN'T LIKE 30 PEOPLE THAT SAID, I WANT HAVE PICKLEBALL COURT.

SO IT WASN'T REALLY SIGNIFICANT WHAT THE, UH, WRITE-INS REALLY HAD TO SAY TO US.

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SO TO SUMMARIZE THIS, I THINK IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE OPEN FIELD AND FLEXIBLE PLAY, THE MULTIPURPOSE TRAILS, THE PLAYGROUNDS AND THE BOARDWALK AND OBSERVATION DECKS WERE, WERE KIND OF A CONSENSUS OF ALL THREE SURVEYS OF THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE AT THE PARK.

AGAIN, THE NEXT LEVEL DOWN, WHICH WE SAW SOME SUPPORT, BUT NOT, I WOULDN'T SAY A CLEAR CONSENSUS FOR THE SPORTS COURT, THE PUMP TRACK, THE PICNIC SHELTERS, AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

I'LL COME BACK TO THIS SLIDE IN A SECOND, BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PROVIDE INPUT BACK TO US SO THAT WE COULD KIND OF INCORPORATE IT INTO THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE FIRST ONE IS, AND I'M JUST GONNA READ THROUGH THESE AND I'LL GO BACK TO THAT SUMMARY, SO YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

DOES TOWN COUNCIL AGREE TO PROCEED WITH PLANNING FOR THE RECREATION USES SUGGESTED IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SUMMARY? THAT'S THE PREVIOUS SLIDE I JUST TALKED ABOUT.

ARE THERE ANY FEATURES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE PARK THAT HAVEN'T REALLY CURRENTLY BEEN SUGGESTED IN THAT SURVEY? AND DO YOU, DO YOU THINK A SMALL COMMUNITY CENTER IS NEEDED AT THIS LOCATION? AND IF YES, HOW WOULD YOU SEE IT BEING USED OR MANAGED? UH, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS RELATED TO PHASING IN THE PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A SIX OR $7 MILLION PROJECT.

SO DO WE WANNA DO IT ALL AT ONCE OR DO YOU WANNA DO IT IN PHASES LIKE WE'VE DONE AT SOME OF OUR PARKS? WE'VE DONE IT BOTH WAYS.

SO LET ME GO BACK TO THAT, UM, SUMMARY AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN KIND OF ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS INDIVIDUALLY.

SO, UM, JUST JUST FOR CLARITY, UH, YOU GO BACK TO THE, THE BALLOT, THE VOTING BALLOT OR WHATEVER YOU, THE SURVEY RESULTS.

THIS ONE? YEAH.

UM, WOULD IT, WOULD I BE RIGHT ON SAYING THAT IF YOU TOOK THE FIRST THREE BOATS AND ADDED THEM TOGETHER AND THEN ADDED THE LAST TWO TOGETHER TO PUT AGAINST THOSE YEAH.

COMPARE TO COMPARE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE EXTREMELY BARRY OR SOMEWHAT ARE ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED OR FOR RIGHT, THAT MM-HMM .

AND NOT MUCH AND NOT AT ALL ARE THE ONES THAT COULD CARE LESS IF IT WAS THERE OR NOT, RIGHT? THAT'S TRUE.

OKAY.

FROM FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, IT'S HIGH INTEREST TO LOW INTEREST AND YEAH.

BUT THE THREE, YEAH, YEAH, THE THREE NUMBERS, THE THREE FIRST NUMBERS REALLY PAINTS THE PICTURE ON WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, I THINK.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THE FURTHER YOU GET DOWN THE LIST HORIZONTALLY, YOU SEE A LITTLE LESS INTEREST IN THOSE SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC CATEGORIES, RIGHT.

A'S AND NAYS.

OKAY.

YOU CAN GO BACK TO YOUR OTHER .

SO DO YOU AGREE WITH THESE, THIS LIST OF PE OF ITEMS HERE FOR RECREATIONAL AMENITIES AT THE BUCK ISLAND ROAD PARK? PUT THE QUESTION BACK UP THERE.

I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION IS, IS EVERYTHING WELL, DAN YEAH.

UM, UM, YOU FIRST STARTED, YOU WERE LOOKING AT SIXTH, SEVENTH, AND EIGHTH GRADE, I BELIEVE IS WHAT YOU SAID IN YOUR SUMMARY MM-HMM .

AND THEN YOU WENT AND YOU GOT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE CHILDREN WANTED.

500 SOMETHING CHILDREN I THINK, UH, RESPONDED, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

SO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN WE TOOK IT AND WE EN ENGAGED THE ADULTS WITH IT.

SO SOME OF THAT INFORMATION DOESN'T EXACTLY MATCH, BUT THAT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO WE WENT FROM WHAT THE, DO THE KIDS WANT TO, WHAT DO THE ADULTS WANT? IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? KIDS WANTED A VOLLEYBALL COURT AND THE ADULTS WOULD RATHER SEE BASKETBALL COURT.

SO YEAH, I SEE A DISCONNECT.

AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHILE DOG AND THE REP OUT THERE IS THE, UH, THE RIVER, THE SIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE CHILDREN'S PARK.

UM, IN SOME OF THE PARKS, WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR, WHEN I LOOK AT AND MY, BECAUSE I USE THE PARKS, I'VE GOT GRANDCHILDREN, I'VE USED THEM FROM THE TIME THEY'VE COME UP AND SO FORTH DO IS TO ME LITTLE CHILDREN, NUMBER, NUMBER KIDS.

UM, OSCAR FRAZIER OFFERED A LITTLE BIT MORE IN MY OPINION.

UH, MY KIDS WOULD GET BORED AT DUB BOTH.

I'D TAKE 'EM OVER TO OSCAR FRAZIER, THIS A LITTLE MORERO ROOM AROUND THERE.

AND UH, IT'S DIFFERENT.

AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THE ONE AT BUCK WALTER, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK APPLIES ITSELF TO, TO YOUNGER CHILDREN.

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AND THEN WE HAVE THE ONE OUT AT NEW RIVERSIDE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE OF A CROSS BREEDED OR NOT BREED BRED WITH BECAUSE OF THE, UH, ZIP LINE AND A FEW THINGS.

BUT MOSTLY WHAT I'VE SEEN ARE THE YOUNGER CHILDREN USING THE PARKS MM-HMM .

IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO BE SURE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL'S WANTING, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE, THERE'S A WAY TO COMPLIMENT ADULTS WITH THE CHILDREN, BUT I WANNA STAY FOCUSED ON THE CHILDREN, NUMBER ONE.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL THAT MEANS BASED ON YOUR TOP CRITERIA.

THAT WOULD BE THIS, THIS GROUP RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, THE THE ORIGINAL LEFT AND MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO SURVEY, BASED ON THIS SURVEY, SAY YOUR TOP FOUR OR FIVE NUMBERS, AND THEN YOU DID THE ADULT SURVEY.

HOW MANY OF THOSE SURVIVE IN THE ADULT SURVEY? SEE, WHAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND TOO, DAN, IS THOSE SMALL KIDS THAT YOU SEE AT NEW RIVERSIDE PARK, THEIR PARENTS ARE BRINGING THEM THERE WHERE YOU HAVE BIGGER KIDS THAT WOULD BE VISITING AND PLAYING OR HANGING OUT WITH THEMSELVES OR THEIR PEERS.

SO, SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE AMENITIES THAT WE HAVE AT NEW RIVERSIDE PARK, THE ADULTS LIKE 'EM TOO.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THOSE MOMS AND DADS, WHILE THOSE KIDS ARE ROLLING UP AND DOWN THE HILL, THEY GOTTA FIND A PLACE TO GET OUT THE SUN OR, YEAH.

NO, I'M NOT SAYING, SAYING, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T HAVE A PARK COMBO.

RIGHT.

CAN'T HAVE A PARK WITHOUT A PLACE TO EVERYBODY TO SIT.

I GET THAT AND I'M JUST TRYING TO BE SURE.

AND THEN THE OTHER PART THAT, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, 'CAUSE AGAIN, WHEN YOU, YOU SAID SIXTH, SEVENTH, AND EIGHTH GRADE, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER GROUP, WHICH IS FINE ABOUT ME, A LITTLE MORE TWO FOR SOME OF THE KIDS, BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER GROUP THAN THESE OTHER PARTS THAT WE HAVE.

WELL, THEY'RE THE KIND, THEY'RE THE AGE GROUP THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR THEM.

CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S ON THE .

WE NEED TO GIVE THEM AN OPTION.

ANYWAY, I, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT STUCK OUT OF MY MIND, AND I'M JUMPING AHEAD OF YOU WAS THE COMMUNITY CENTER QUESTION.

I THINK WE, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

SO JUST IF I CAN MAYOR TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION YOU ASKED, I THINK THE ONLY THING FROM THE YOUTH SURVEY THAT DID NOT MAKE IT TO IN THE ADULT SURVEY WAS THE SAND VOLLEYBALL COURTS.

THAT WAS THE TOP THING ON THE YOUTH SURVEY, BUT IT WAS LIKE IN THE FOURTH TIER ON, UH, ADULTS WHERE THE, UH, VOLLEYBALL AND BASKETBALL COURT WAS.

SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY, UM, UH, CASUALTY FROM THE YOUTH TO ALL THE OTHER SURVEYS WE DID WAS JUST THE SAND VOLLEYBALL COURT IF WE WANTED TO.

UH, WHICH IF YOU REMEMBER IN THE ORIGINAL, UH, UM, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, THE RENDITION OR WORKSHOP WORKSHOP THAT WE DID, I THINK THAT WAS IN THERE.

SO I MEAN, THERE'S ROOM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO, COULD DO ALL THREE OF THAT, WE COULD DO ALL WE COULD DO THAT.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

MR. HAMILTON, MY, UM, INPUT IS A LOT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING.

THE REASON WHY WE EVEN PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY IS BECAUSE THE RESIDENCE OF BUCK ISLAND AND VILLE SAYING YOU BUILT IT EVERYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT HERE.

SO WHY ARE WE ENTERTAINING WHAT WE JUST SENDING SEND IT TO, UM, PINE CREST? WHY YOU SENDING IT TO PINECREST? THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE BY TO THIS, THIS PARK.

IT'S WITHIN WALKING BORDER OF THE ONE SIDE OF IT.

LEFT A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY.

.

IT'S A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY THOUGH.

PLUS, UM, WE ALSO SAID THAT WE, I I MEAN, MY POINT IS WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IF IT WASN'T FOR THE COMPLAINT THAT WE GOT FROM BUCK ISLAND AND VILLE RESIDENTS.

YEAH.

IT'S, IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE BUCK ISLAND CENTERVILLE PLAN AND WE'RE ACTING ON IT.

WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING FOR A PARKING IN THAT.

BUT WHEN WE DID THE BUCK ISLAND AND CENTERVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD CONVERSATION, WE DIDN'T INVITE PINECREST, I GUESS THE JUDGMENT CALL THEN TOO.

WE DIDN'T INVITE THEM TO THIS MEETING.

I, WE HAD AN INTERNAL, I I ATTEND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE MEETINGS.

THEY WEREN'T INVITED.

I GUESS I CAN TAKE, I'LL TAKE THE THAW ON THAT.

I FELT LIKE IT WAS A COMMUNITY THAT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES STAFF GETS AHEAD OF COUNCIL AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES I THINK SO WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN YOU CHANGE THE, BEFORE YOU CHANGE THE, THE CONCEPT, THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS.

STAFF COUNCIL IS COUNCIL IS A GO-TO BEFORE STAFF

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GETS, MAKES THE CHANGE NEXT.

I BELIEVE ALSO THAT BUILDING, UM, PUMP TRACKS MAY BE A PROBLEM FOR THE E-BIKES.

AND BECAUSE NOW WE KNOW BETTER, WE SHOULD, WE BETTER WE INVITING THE SAME PROBLEM THAT WE TRYING TO SOLVE.

WE, BECAUSE EVERYONE, EVERY, EVERY DAY WE GET CALLS ABOUT CONCERNED ABOUT E-BIKES.

AND RIGHT NOW DAN IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

I THINK IT'S ALSO NOW STATE A STATE PROBLEM.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH KIDS BEING KIDS, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SAFETY ASPECT THAT WE CAN'T SEEM TO MANAGE.

OKAY.

UM, ONE OF THE, UH, THE SURVEYS SHOWS WHEN DOUBTS ASK FOR STUFF LIKE PICKLE PICKLEBALL.

I DON'T WANT TO SATISFY ADULTS.

I MEAN, PARKS IS NOT FOR ADULTS UNLESS IT'S A, A NATURE TRAIL OR, OR WE HAVE AND AND WE DON'T NEED TO BUILD, UM, A PARKS FOR ADULTS OTHER THAN NATURE TRAILS OR, OR, OR PICNIC PICNIC TABLES AND, AND MAYBE A PAVILION IF YOU WILL.

BUT KIDS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE FOCUS.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING PARKS, I WANNA STICK TO THAT.

OKAY.

BUT NOW I'M GOING TO REST.

MAY I JUMP IN AGAIN? YOU HAVEN'T COMMENTED YET.

JUMP, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT JUMP DAN, LIKE THE COMMENT ON THE PUMP TRACK BECAUSE I FIRST LIKED THE IDEA AT FIRST, BUT YOUR POINTS WELL MADE.

UM, BUT I DID SEE SOMETHING THAT HILTON HEAD IS DOING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.

I SAW THEY'RE DOING A NEW PARK AND THEY HAD PUMP PEDAL OR PUMP.

I THINK ITS THE SAME.

I WON'T FIND OUT REALLY WHETHER I, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING.

I DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE AND I, I CONCUR MR. HAMILTON.

OKAY, MR. ROONEY.

SO WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? AH, WELL, , I, OKAY, WELL ON THE LIST THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT PUMP TRACK SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD RATHER PASS ON THE PUMP.

THE BRAKES ON THE PUMP TRACK.

.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, LET'S CUT THE WIRE.

SLOW THAT ONE DOWN.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, OPEN FIELD, THAT'S KIND OF WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS UM, FOR FLEXIBLE PLAY THAT WAS KIND OF IN ALL SURVEYS WAS SEEM TO BE RATED HIGH MULTIPURPOSE TRAILS THAT SOMETHING SEEMED TO BE RATED HIGH ON IN ALL SURVEYS.

PLAYGROUND TWO ALWAYS.

THE ONE THING THAT WAS NEW, KIND OF UNIQUE TO THIS ONE IS BECAUSE WE HAD SOME WETLANDS HERE, MAYBE AGELESS WETLANDS DID SOME BOARDWALK AND AN OBSERVATION DECK INTO THE WETLANDS.

SO THOSE FIRST FOUR ITEMS I SAW AS KIND OF A CONSENSUS FROM THE SURVEYS THAT WE TOOK.

UM, AND THE ONE THING ABOUT THE OPEN FIELD, IF WE LEAVE IT OPEN AND WE WANNA DO SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD, WHETHER IT'S MORE PLAYGROUND SWING SETS OR WHATEVER, YOU CAN STILL DO IT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? DOWN YEAH.

FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, 20 YEARS.

WELL, PARKS ALWAYS SEEM TO EVOLVE OVER TIME.

SURE.

BUT, AND THEN THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS, THE SPORTS COURTS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, KIDS WANTING VOLLEYBALL, UM, THEY, THEY MENTIONED COVERED BASKETBALL AS WELL IN THE TOP 10.

SO THAT WAS A KID THING.

THE PUMP TRACKS OUT PICNIC SHELTERS WITH GRILLS THAT CAME UP MORE WITH THE, WITH THE ADULTS.

UM, WHICH I THINK THAT'S AN ITEM THAT FRED MENTIONED.

SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY WOULD WANT TO USE.

UH, AND THEN OF COURSE THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS SOMETHING I GUESS WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT LATER, BUT WHERE I'M, WHERE I AM IS TRYING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE I CAN LET A WOODEN PARTNER START DO CIRCUM CONCEPT DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF COME BACK TO YOU WITH A PLAN THAT SHOWS THESE ITEMS ON A PIECE OF PAPER.

WELL, I, I WOULD PERSONALLY, I WOULD THINK, BECAUSE I SPEND A LITTLE TIME AT THE PARKS AS WELL, UM, THE, THE PICNIC SHELTERS AND GRILLS, THAT'S BIRTHDAY PARTY ALL OVER AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA COME FROM THE KID.

THE KIDS ARE THERE TO PLAY AND EAT AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO UNTIL THEY GET TO A CERTAIN AGE.

SO THAT'S COMING FROM THE PARENTS, BUT IT'S A VERY YEAH.

SENSIBLE REQUEST.

I MEAN IT'S, IT'S NEEDED.

UM, IT WILL BE USED AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS JUST EVEN LIKE AT OSCAR, OSCAR FRAZIER, WE'RE PUTTING IN A NEW ONE IN BECAUSE

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IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY YOU HAVE, IT NEVER SEEMS TO BE RIGHT.

I KNOW.

RIGHT.

AND EVEN FOR Y'ALL WHO DON'T GET UP REAL EARLY IN THE MORNING, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE SOMEBODY A BIRTHDAY PARTY LIKE NEW RIVERSIDE, YOU BETTER BE THERE AT DAYLIGHT .

IF YOU WANT ONE OF THOSE SHELTERS IN, IN AREAS TO, TO PUT YOUR PARTY STUFF ON THE TABLE, YOU BETTER GET THERE BEFORE DAYLIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE ALREADY THERE.

THE WORD YOU'RE USING PICNIC SHELTER IS THE SAME AS PAVILION.

YEAH.

OKAY.

JUST WANNA BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD.

UH, PAV WITH RESTROOMS SIMILAR TO THOSE AND .

UM, BUT THESE MIGHT BE SMALLER CIVILIANS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT.

RIGHT.

I I THINK THAT'S MORE SMALLER SCATTERED SO THAT MORE FAMILIES ARE MORE THE SAME TYPE, SAME PLAY.

OKAY.

NOW WHAT YOU WANNA KNOW .

SO, OKAY.

SINGLE PHASE IS MULTIPLE THINGS YOU, YOU WANT ME TO AT, AT AT THIS POINT.

AND UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BILL, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST.

WE CAN AFFORD IT.

WE'LL BUILD IT ALL AND GET IT OVER WITH.

OKAY.

I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION NEXT TIME.

NO NEED TO STRETCH IT OUT IF WE DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IF WE HAVE TO, AND THAT'S LIFE TOO.

GIVE ME AN IDEA OF, OF THE RENDITION YOU SHOWED ABOUT PAVILION VERSUS THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU PRICED THOSE OUT? WELL, UH, THE PAVILION WE'RE PUTTING IN RIGHT NOW, IT'S A SMALL 25 TO 25 PAVILION AT OSCAR FRAZIER IS 178,000 PLUS CONTINGENCY RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S A SMALL PAVILION.

THE ONE THAT YOU WANT TO DO A LARGER ONE THAT INCLUDES RESTROOMS, LIKE, UH, THIS ONE IN THE BOTTOM PICTURE HERE, UH, 250 PROBABLY AND UP PROBABLY 300 PLUMBING AND ALL ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

I, FOR ONE, I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

I, THESE PAVILIONS ARE PICNIC SHELTERS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL 'EM.

LIKE LARRY JUST SAID, THEY'RE VERY POPULAR.

LOTS OF COMPETITION FOR 'EM.

UH, 'EM, UM, I WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE A NEED FOR RESTROOMS OUT THERE MYSELF.

YOU GOTTA HAVE RESTROOMS IN EVERY YEAH.

SO ONE MAY BE ONE LARGE WITH MEDIUM RESTROOMS AND THEN SMALLER, SMALLER ONES SCATTERED.

I DON'T LIKE WE HAVE A NEW RIVERSIDE.

I THINK THOSE WORK PRETTY GOOD THE WAY IT LOOKS TO ME.

SOMETHING YOU CAN HAVE 10 OR 12, 15 KIDS EAT ICE CREAM OFF THE BENCH OR WHATEVER.

OR A CAKE.

I THINK YOU'RE GOOD, PAT.

OKAY, GOOD.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS FOR YOUR, OKAY,

[X.1. Consideration of an Ordinance for Certain Amendments to the Town of Bluffton’s Municipal Code of Ordinances, Chapter 23, Unified Development Ordinance (UDO), Article 3 – Application Process, Sec. 3.18, Certificate of Appropriateness-Historic District and Sec. 3.19, Site Feature-Historic District Permit, Related to Relocation and Demolition of Non-contributing Resources in Old Town Bluffton Historic District – First Reading – Dan Frazier, Planning and Community and Development Manager ]

NEXT WE HAVE, UH, FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAVE CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE FOR CERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF LUPTON.

MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCE CHAPTER 23, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE ARTICLE THREE, APPLICATION PROCESS SECTION 3 1 8, CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE AND SECTION 3.19.

SITE FEATURE, HISTORIC DISTRICT PERMIT RELATED TO RELOCATION AND DEMOLITION OF NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES IN THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND MR. DAN.

OH, THIS, THIS IS MR. MR. ER.

WE GOT THIS MR. BE HERE LAST WEEK.

UM, WE GOT ONE ARM BAND YET.

YES, YOU DO .

SO DON'T ASK ME TO WRITE ANYTHING DOWN.

UH, UH.

WE ARE HERE FOR THE FIRST READING, UH, FOR AN AMENDMENT TO, UM, TO UPDATE, UM, THE, UH, THE UDO AS IT REFLECTS, UM, THE DEMOLITION OF NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES.

IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, WE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU AS A WORKSHOP.

UH, WE WANTED TO SEE THAT WE WERE HAVING SOME CONCERNS PREVIOUSLY, UH, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT WAS TAKING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL FOR, UH, IF THEY NEEDED TO, TO DEMO A STRUCTURE THAT WAS NOT CONTRIBUTING.

UH, THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH A FULL CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, UH, PROCESS.

IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, I SHOWED YOU A CHART HOW SOME OF THOSE WERE TAKING 75, 80, 90 DAYS, UH, TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN ORDER FOR SOMETHING THAT WE KNEW THAT WAS NOT, IT'S NOT HISTORIC.

UM, SO WHILE IT'S A PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY, IT'S NOT NECESS, IT'S NOT AS IMPORTANT, UM, AS THE OTHER STRUCTURES THAT WE HAVE.

SO, UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE COME BACK, WE'VE LOOKED TO, UH, CHANGE, UH, SOME OF THE, THE CODE, UH, AS IT RELATES TO, UM, AND I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU HERE IN A SECOND, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

SO INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE PRO APPROPRIATE PROCESS, WHICH IS 60 PLUS DAYS, UM, WE'VE NOW CHANGED THIS TO WHAT WE REFER TO AS A SITE FEATURE.

IT'S STILL ADMINISTRA, IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

IT'S FIVE DAYS.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST UPDATED OUR HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY SO WE KNOW WHAT STRUCTURES

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ARE OUT THERE, WHAT STRUCTURES ARE, UM, IMPORTANT TO US.

UH, SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND IT'S A NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE, WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT WE'RE GOOD WITH IT, UM, BY GOING THROUGH THIS SITE FEATURE PROCESS, UM, OUR, UH, TOWN HISTORIAN, UH, GLEN, HE'LL BE ABLE TO, TO REVIEW IT TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH IT.

UH, SO IT'S A CHECKS AND BALANCES OF THAT ASPECT OF IT AS OPPOSED TO JUST GETTING A, UH, DEMOLITION PERMIT.

SO, UH, FROM A CODE STANDPOINT, UM, PREVIOUSLY, OR AS CURRENTLY, WE HAVE IT SET UP FOR THAT CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND IT SAYS, FOR NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE, WE'VE TAKEN, WE'RE TAKING THAT SECTION OUT OF JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR NON, UH, CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES, UH, LEAVING THE NUMBERS IN THERE.

'CAUSE IF WE START MESSING WITH THE NUMBERS AND THE SECTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING GETS MESSED UP.

SO, UH, IT SAYS C SECTION THREE 19 SITE FEATURE, HISTORIC DISTRICT PERMIT.

UH, FROM THERE, UM, WHAT WE DO IS THAT THE APPLICABILITY ASPECT FOR SITE FEATURE, UM, WE'VE ADDED, UM, NUMBER SIX WHERE IT SAYS DEMOLITION OF A NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.

SO YOU FILL OUT YOUR SITE FEATURE PERMIT, UH, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT.

UM, THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT.

UM, SO WE SAY FOR, UM, FOR THE REVIEW CRITERIA, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT FOR DEMOLITION OF NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, UM, YOU JUST NEED TO PROVIDE THE CONSTRUCTION DATE, HISTORY OF OWNERSHIP USES IF KNOWN, AND THEN THE PROPERTY SURVEY, IF IF AVAILABLE.

SO THAT'S THE INFORMATION.

WE'LL THEN USE AS PART OF THAT SITE FEATURE.

UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH THERE AND THEN WE CAN THEN APPROVE THAT SITE FEATURE, UH, PERMIT, WHICH THEN GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO PULL THE, THE BUILDING PERMIT, AKA DEMOLITION PERMIT.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU FILL OUT A BUILDING PERMIT, IT'S HAS A LITTLE AREA WHERE YOU CAN TO DO A DEMOLITION.

UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

SO IT'S A CHECKS AND BALANCES.

IT CUTS THAT TIMEFRAME FROM 60 PLUS DAYS DOWN TO A FIVE, UH, BUSINESS DAY REVIEW.

UM, AND WITH THAT, FROM OUR REVIEW CRITERIA, UH, AM MET ALL THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

UH, YOUR ACTIONS TONIGHT ARE TO APPROVE, UH, THIS IS FIRST READING.

UH, YOU CAN APPROVE, UM, AS WE HAVE SHOWN IF YOU WANT SOME ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS, UM, OR TO JUST, JUST DENY THIS AND, AND STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE.

UH, FROM THE STEP STANDPOINT, WE'RE HERE, UH, FOR FIRST READING.

UM, WE INTEND THAT IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD COME BACK TO YOU IN THE AUGUST, UM, MEETING WITH A FINAL READING AND PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

MR. WOOD, I'M JUST GOING TO SEE A SIMPLIFI SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS.

IT'S BEEN PAINFUL OVER THE YEARS AND, UH, JUST TRYING OUT A AFFAIR AND, AND INSPECT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THE DECISION.

YES, SIR.

I'M SORRY.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION WHILE YOU WOUNDED , BUT I LIKE IT.

YES, VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU SIR.

ALRIGHT.

AND I HAVE NO COMMENT.

I'M GLAD IT'S MOVING FORWARD.

AND I HAVE A, A PROPOSED MOTION FOR YOU.

SO IS THIS, IS THIS OUR MOTION? YEAH, YOU CAN TOO.

MOVE TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CHANGES OR DENY.

SO JUST PICK SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UM, WHAT'S SHOWING ON THE SCREEN ON THE APPROVED SIDE.

OKAY.

WONDER.

THAT'S GONNA BE I SECOND .

ALL GREAT, MR. MARSHALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, KEVIN.

OKAY, UH, NO,

[XI. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

WE HAVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA OUGHT TO ANYTHING OR DISCUSS ANY ITEMS? NO, NOTHING FROM ME.

MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND.

YOU ALL IN FAVOR A HONOR.

THANK YOU.

NEXT

[XII. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

WE GO AND TAKE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR DISCUSSION AND NEGOTI OF NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING THE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS AND PROPOSED SALE LEASE OR PURCHASE OF PROPERTY PURSUANT TO FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A TWO RELATED TO PROPERTY USAGE IN THE GHOST ROAD RIGHT OF WAY RELATED TO CONTRACTUAL MATTERS OF PROPOSED LAND ACQUISITION IN THE AREA WITHIN THE BUCK WALTER, BUD AND LEGAL ADVICE RELATED TO POTENTIAL RESOLUTION PURSUANT FREEDOM.

INFORM INFORMATION ACT 30 DASH 47 8 2.

IS THERE MOTION? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

WE ARE SESSION, BUT WE WILL HAVE ACTION NOW FROM

[XIII. ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION ]

MAYOR PRO TIM HAMILTON.

A MOTION TO COME

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OUTTA EXECUTIVE SESSION I A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION REQUESTING THAT THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AND DELIVER WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE REFLECTING THE TOWN DESIRE TO REQUIRE COMPLIANCE WITH THE UDO AS IT RELATES TO THE USE OF A GHOST ROAD.

SECOND.

SECOND, IT, UH, THANK, SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVE FULL SECOND EVERY TIME.

YEP.