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NO, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE PUBLIC
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
FACILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING OF JUNE 15TH TO ORDER.PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND A JUSTICE.
UM, MS. BROCK, WAS THIS ADVERTISED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT? YES, MA'AM.
[ 4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
RIGHT.I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER.
ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS.
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]
UH, THE MINUTES WERE PUBLISHED.DO WE HAVE, UH, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR, UH, TAVERNA AND A SECOND BY, UM, COUNCILMAN LAWSON, RIGHT? MM-HMM
ALL IN ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
AND TODAY WE HAVE, UH, ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MA'AM.
[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT ]
MOVING ALONG.UH, WE HAVE ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS REPORT.
HEY, HOW Y'ALL DOING TODAY? GOOD.
DID YOU KNOW YOU WERE PROMOTED?
SO YOU WANT ME TO JUST COME UPDATE ON ONE THING? SO WE HAVE RECENTLY, UM, READVERTISED OUR ON-CALL IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND ARE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CONTRACTING FOR A NEW ROADWAY DESIGN ON CALL AND, UM, CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING INSPECTION ON CALL.
SO THIS IS GONNA REPLACE OUR PREVIOUS ONES, GET US SET UP FOR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL SALES TAX IN NOVEMBER.
WE PUT IT OUT, RECEIVED, UH, SOLICITATIONS BACK ON MARCH 26TH, RECEIVED, UH, 22, UH, PROPOSALS, AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH 10 OF THEM.
SO WE'LL BRING 10 DESIGN CONSULTANTS ON BOARD.
AND THEN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION, UH, WE RECEIVED THOSE ON MARCH 25TH, NINE SUBMITTALS, AND WE'RE SUBMITTING, UH, SELECTING FIVE.
SO THAT WILL BE BROUGHT ON BOARD.
UM, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE CONTRACTING PERIOD NOW, SO WE CAN START GETTING THEM STARTED ON SOME, UH, PROJECTS, EITHER, UM, IN THE DEPARTMENT AND THEN POTENTIAL SALES TAX PROJECTS.
SO, SEEMS LIKE A, A GOOD QUANTITY OF BIDDERS.
YEAH, IT WAS A, A GOOD, UH, TURNOUT FOR THESE WAS REALLY SURPRISED.
IT WAS A LOT OF READING, BUT I THINK WE GOT SOME GOOD FIRMS. SO, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.
IS THAT ALL ALL YOU HAVE? OKAY.
UM, WE HAVE DISCUSSION AND PRESENTATION ITEMS FIRST.
UM, MR. CUNNINGHAM HAS HIS HAND UP.
CUNNINGHAM OR, OR MR. RES CAN'T, WE CAN'T SEE HIM.
UH, I HAVEN'T HAD MY HAND UP, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE, GLAD THAT'S ALL MR. CUNNINGHAM.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS MR. CUNNINGHAM.
DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION, MR. CUNNINGHAM? COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM? HE'S THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE.
JUST, I APPRECIATE YOU RUNNING THE MEETING TODAY.
SORRY, I HAD TO BE OUT TOWN LAST MINUTE.
YOU'RE IN OHIO, RIGHT? OR YES, MA'AM.
MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE YOU BUT
DIDN'T MEAN TO DISCLOSE YOUR LOCATION.
[8.a. Presentation on Stormwater Utility Fee Study and Restructure (FISCAL IMPACT: No fiscal impact is associated with this presentation.) - Hal Clarkson, Woolpert & Taylor Brewer, Stormwater Manager (30 min) ]
RIGHT.GOING ON TO EIGHT A IS A PRESENTATION ON STORMWATER UTILITY FEE STUDY AND RESTRUCTURE.
UH, NO PHYSICAL IMPACT WITH THIS PRESENTATION.
THIS IS GONNA BE DONE BY, UH, HAL CLARKSON, WOOLER AND TAYLOR, UM, STORMWATER MANAGER WHO'S LEADING IT.
ARE YOU LEADING IT? TAYLOR, I'M GONNA KICK US OFF.
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
UM, JUST SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
UM, OUR STORMWATER UTILITY WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2001.
OUR LAST FEE STUDY FOR OUR STORMWATER UTILITY WAS IN 2015, WHICH LED TO THE CREATION OF OUR CURRENT FEE STRUCTURE AND OUR CURRENT DATABASE THAT WE USE TO CALCULATE OUR FEES.
WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH THIS DATABASE, UM, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO EQUATIONS THAT ARE CONTAINING INCORRECT OR OUTDATED LINKS TO OTHER CELLS.
UH, THE NEED FOR MANUAL ADJUSTMENTS AND MANUAL MANIPULATION FOR CERTAIN REDUCTIONS IN CREDITS.
SO WE HAVE STARTED A RESTRUCTURE FOR OUR STORMWATER UTILITY FEE.
WE HAVE, UM, BROUGHT OUR CONSULTANT WILER ON TO HELP US WITH THAT.
UH, MR. HOWELL IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT.
HE'S HELPED A NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES IN OUR STATE AND OTHER STATES SET UP THEIR DATABASES.
SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM ON OUR TEAM.
SO TODAY HE'S GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION OF THE
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ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING AND KIND OF OUR PATH FORWARD FROM THERE.SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MR. HOWELL CLARKSON.
AND IS THE PRESENTATION THAT'S IN OUR PACKET, IS THAT WHAT HE'S WORKING FOR? THAT ONE? RIGHT.
UM, WE HAD AN UPDATED, AN UPDATED VERSION SINCE THEN, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT COUNSEL GETS THAT AFTER TODAY.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING US HERE.
I'LL, UM, TRY AND KEEP THIS QUICK RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME, BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
SO IF I USE A ENGINEERING TERM THAT YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, TO STOP AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WE GOER WORKS TOO.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA KEEP THIS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL AS WELL, SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF INFORMATION PRETTY QUICKLY.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
UM, THE, THE PRINCIPLE THING I'D LIKE TO DO TODAY IS KIND OF EXPLAIN THE FRAMEWORK, THE BILLING FRAMEWORK THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOUR UTILITY, HOW THAT WORKS, SOME OF THE ISSUES AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR, UH, STUDY THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO.
HOW YOU, OKAY, SO YOUR, YOUR CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE IS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.
YOU CHARGE, UM, BASED ON THE GROSS AREA OF SOMEONE'S PROPERTY, SO JUST THE NUMBER OF ACRES THAT THEY OWN.
YOU ALSO ADD IN A FEE FOR HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS THE AREA THEY HAVE.
SO ROOFTOPS, DRIVEWAYS, CONCRETE GETS ADDED IN.
UM, YOU ALSO HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT GOES TO OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU'RE COLLECTING FEES FOR THEM.
THERE'S ALSO A COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE FEE THAT GETS ADDED IN.
AND THEN ALL OF THESE RATES VARY ACROSS DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
SO PORT ROYAL, HILTON, HEAD ISLAND, UH, COUNTY CITIZENS, ALL PAY DIFFERENT RATES.
AND SO YOU CAN IMAGINE AS YOU START ADDING THESE TOGETHER INTO THAT FINAL BILLING DATABASE, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, POTENTIAL COMPLICATIONS WITH IT.
AND SO, IN FACT, UH, WHAT YOU SEE KIND OF DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT SCREEN IS A PART OF THE GUIDANCE MANUAL FOR HOW WE GO ABOUT LOOKING AT THIS, UM, DATABASE EVERY YEAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WRITING NOTES IN THERE OVER THE YEARS GOING, HERE'S HOW WE DO THIS, AND HERE'S WHERE WE'VE MADE THIS CHANGE.
SO OVERALL, IT'S, IT IS RATHER COMPLEX.
UM, KIND OF DIFFICULT TO CALCULATE, DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO CITIZENS HOW WE CALCULATE THEIR BILL.
YOU'RE PAYING SOMEONE TO COME IN AND, UM, MANIPULATE THAT DATABASE EVERY YEAR SO THAT YOU CAN SEND OUT A BILL AND YOU DON'T NEED TO BE SPENDING YOUR MONEY THAT WAY.
UM, THERE'S A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITH IT.
SO A A CITIZEN WOULD FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO CALCULATE THEIR OWN BILL, EVEN IF THEY HAD ALL OF THE DATA THAT THAT GOES INTO THAT CALCULATION.
AND SO WANNA GET SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN AT LEAST LOOK AND GO, WELL, THIS MAKES SENSE WITH WHAT I KNOW ABOUT MY PROPERTY.
UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DISPARITY, AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN JUST A MOMENT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL REVENUES, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE PAYING BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA OR ADDITIONAL STORMWATER RUNOFF THAT THEY'RE ADDING TO YOUR SYSTEM.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THE BILLING RATES AGAIN VARY, UM, SIGNIFICANTLY ACROSS THE DIFFERENT, UH, PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND LAND USES.
SO IT'S A LITTLE, UH, DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE.
COULD YOU GO, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
NO, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE SHOWING THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES? WHY, WHY IS THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON SO HIGH COMPARED? DOES ANYBODY KNOW EXACTLY.
I JUST WONDERED, IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT MAYBE.
AND ON WHICH ONE OF THE RATES UNDER THE FEES UNDER THE CWI FEE MM-HMM
I, I DON'T KNOW WHY THOSE RATES WERE SET IN THAT MANNER.
BUT IT DOES STAND OUT, OBVIOUSLY.
AND THAT'S SOME OF THE, THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HOPING TO CLARIFY, RESOLVE AND RECTIFY.
SO I MENTIONED THAT THERE'S SOME DISPARITY BETWEEN RATES.
SO IF YOU LOOK, UM, AT THE CURRENT RATE STRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE, YOUR, THAT SF STANDS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MF IS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN NON-RES IS EVERYONE ELSE.
THAT'S BUSINESSES, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND SO ON YOUR, FOR INSTANCE, ON THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THEY COMPRISE ABOUT 52% OF THE TOTAL IMPERVIOUS AREA ROOFTOPS AND, UM, DRIVEWAYS AND SUCH AS THAT ACROSS THE COUNTY.
AND THEY'RE PAYING ABOUT 52% OF THE REVENUE.
YOU LOOK AT MULTIFAMILY, THEY COMPRISE ABOUT 1.4% OF THE IMPERVIOUS AREA, BUT THEY'RE PAYING ALMOST 8% OF THE REVENUE.
AND THEN YOUR NON-RESIDENTIAL, YOUR BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIAL SETTINGS, THEY HAVE ABOUT 47% OF THAT IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT'S ADDING STORMWATER TO YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
BUT THEY'RE ONLY, UH, FOOTING ABOUT 40% OF THE BILL CURRENTLY.
SO THAT JUST SHOWS THAT THERE'S
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A LITTLE BIT OF DISPARITY THERE.THOSE NUMBERS OUGHT TO BE, UM, ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT TO WHAT THEY ARE, ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE SYSTEM.
SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO, SIMPLIFY YOUR RATE STRUCTURE, ADD A LITTLE BIT OF EFFICIENCY TO IT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY US EVERY YEAR TO COME IN AND, AND RECONCILE YOUR DATABASE.
ADD A LITTLE BIT OF TRANSPARENCY TO IT SO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTY AND THEIR BILL AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PAYING APPROPRIATE AMOUNT.
AND THEN DISTRIBUTE THOSE COSTS A LITTLE MORE EQUITABLY ACROSS, ACROSS THE COUNTY AND ACROSS DIFFERENT LAND USES.
AND THEN FINALLY, AND, AND PERHAPS EVEN, UM, MORE IMPORTANTLY, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A SUSTAINABLE REVENUE FOR YOUR STORMWATER PROGRAM AND THAT YOU'VE GOT A, A, A SOLID FUNDING SOURCE TO DO THAT SO THAT YOU CAN GROW INTO THE FUTURE.
THERE ARE CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE WILL MAKE, I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME HERE, BUT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ONE IS THAT, UH, AGRICULTURAL LANDS BY STATE LAW ARE EXEMPT FROM NEW FEES.
AND SO WE, WE CAN'T ADJUST THEIR FEE IF THEY'RE BEING CHARGED NOW, IT'LL STAY THE SAME IF THEY AREN'T BEING CHARGED A FEE, UH, WE CAN'T CHARGE A NEW ONE.
UH, THE LAST PIECE I WOULD SAY IS THAT, UM, CRYSTAL, UM, MY PROJECT MANAGER BACK HERE AND OUR ENGINEERS, WERE NOT ACCOUNTANTS AND FINANCIAL FOLKS.
SO WHILE WE CAN HELP YOU DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT, DETERMINE WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE AND HELP YOU SET A RATE, I'M NOT GONNA PROVIDE ADVICE ON FINANCIAL ISSUES SUCH AS HOW YOU FINANCE YOUR CIP OR WHAT, UH, DEBT SERVICE LEVEL YOU OUGHT TO CARRY, THAT SORT OF THING.
WE'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE, TO THE ACCOUNTANTS AND FINANCIAL PLANNERS.
UM, THE OTHER PIECE IS SOME OF THE DECISION POINTS WE'RE WE'LL BE TALKING WITH YOUR STAFF ABOUT IS HOW TO HANDLE SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL FEES, LIKE THE COUNTYWIDE INFRASTRUCTURE FEE, HOW TO HANDLE UNIQUE PROPERTY SITUATIONS, PEOPLE THAT FRONT THE MARSH OR, UM, OR ON, ON WATER.
HOW TO DEAL WITH THE PARTICIPATING COMMUNITY RATES, MAKE SURE THEY'RE BEING CHARGED APPROPRIATELY.
UM, EXEMPTIONS CURRENTLY, UM, YOU HAVE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO PROPERTY.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, THEY MIGHT BE GETTING A DEDUCTION FROM THE GROSS AREA IF THEY HAVE MARSHLAND THAT THEY OWN.
AND THAT'S, THOSE TYPES OF EXCEPTIONS ARE OKAY.
WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS ALLOW EXEMPTIONS.
A COMMON ONE WOULD BE CHURCHES.
UM, HOWEVER, IF YOU EXEMPT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND IT BEGINS TO ACT LIKE A TAX AND NOT LIKE A, UM, ENTERPRISE FUND.
AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF EXEMPTIONS.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE'LL LOOK AT CREDITS AND APPEALS, UH, HOW THAT PROCESS IS HANDLED BY THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE, ARE IN ORDER.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOUR STORMWATER UTILITY PAYS FOR, AND WHEN I SAY STORMWATER UTILITY, IT'S REALLY YOUR STORMWATER FUND.
YOUR UTILITY IS THE PIPES AND THE DITCHES THAT YOU HAVE IN THE GROUND, BUT YOUR FUND PAYS FOR YOUR FEDERAL PERMIT COVERAGE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION, CIP MAINTENANCE, YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATORY PROGRAM, AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT SERVICES.
AND THEN YOUR STORMWATER UTILITY MAINTENANCE SUCH AS RECONCILING THE DATABASE, GETTING NEW DATA FOR BILLING, THAT SORT OF THING.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS, DIFFERENT FRAMEWORKS YOU CAN HAVE FOR BILLING, UM, PEOPLE UNDER A STORMWATER UTILITY.
AND I'VE LISTED FIVE OF THEM HERE.
I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM IN DETAIL, BUT ONE IS JUST A FLAT RATE.
YOU JUST CHARGE EVERYBODY THE SAME THING.
UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES.
SOME OF SOME OF THESE YOU CAN HAVE A FLAT RATE, BUT IT'S BASED ON AN EQUIVALENT RESIDENTIAL UNIT WHERE WE LOOK AT WHAT'S THE AVERAGE SIZE OF THE HOUSE AND AND IMPERVIOUS AREA ON A RESIDENTIAL PARCEL.
AND THEN YOUR RATES ARE BASED OFF OF THAT.
AND, AND BURGER KING MIGHT HAVE TWO ER USE, SO IT WOULD PAY TWICE AS MUCH AS A HOUSE IN A LARGE INDUSTRIAL SETTING MIGHT HAVE A HUNDRED TIMES AS MUCH AREA AND WOULD PAY A HUNDRED TIMES AS MUCH.
YOU CAN HAVE THAT WITH A TIERED BASIS WHERE YOU CAN CHARGE SOMEONE THAT HAS A MOBILE HOME A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN YOU WOULD CHARGE SOMEONE WITH THE, THE LARGE, UH, MANSION TYPE HOUSE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE, UM, APPROPRIATE AS WELL THESE DAYS BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY HAS IMPROVED.
WE CAN ALSO DO JUST A FLAT RATE IMPERVIOUS AREA WHERE WE JUST BASICALLY SET UP A RATE THAT'S PER 1000 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS AREA.
WE CALCULATE HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS AREA YOU HAVE ON YOUR HOME OR AT YOUR BUSINESS, AND THEN YOU GET CHARGED THAT RATE.
THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST FAIR AND EQUITABLE WAY.
IT DOES REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA.
UM, BUT YOU, YOU DO HAVE THAT KIND OF DATA.
THE FIFTH ONE IS THE FLAT RATE, GROSS AND IMPERVIOUS AREA BASIS.
THAT'S THE WAY YOU GUYS OPERATE TODAY.
THOSE ARE ALL COMMON AND ACCEPTABLE WAYS.
WHAT I'VE PREPARED FOR YOU HERE IS JUST, IT'S A VERY SUBJECTIVE CHART, UH, BUT IT'S BASED OFF OF, UM, SOME POLLS THAT ARE TAKEN AMONG UTILITIES ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST, PLUS OUR OWN EXPERIENCE AND DISCUSSIONS WITH CLIENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
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BUT AGAIN, BASICALLY A FOUR IS GOOD AND A ONE IS BAD.AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT HOW EASILY A ONE OF THESE RATE STRUCTURES IS UNDERSTOOD HOW FAIR AND EQUITABLE IT IS DEFENSIBLE, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, UM, UH, EASILY MAINTAINED, HOW MUCH EFFORT WOULD GO INTO MAINTAINING, YOU CAN KIND OF GET A GENERAL SENSE OF THE SCORE.
UH, I THINK IT TURNED OUT PINK INSTEAD OF RED, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
THE FLAT RATE NOT VERY FAIR AND IT'S NOT DEFENSIBLE.
UH, SO WE WOULD NORMALLY NOT RECOMMEND THAT.
I HAVE USED IT IN THE PAST FOR VERY SHORT TERM TO GET PEOPLE MONEY COMING IN SO THEY COULD GATHER THE DATA THEY NEEDED TO MOVE TO ONE OF THESE OTHER RATES.
UM, THE FRAMEWORK THAT YOU GUYS USE, THE PROBLEM WITH IT IS, IT'S JUST NOT EASILY UNDERSTOOD.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WORKS PRETTY WELL.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YEAH, I'M SORRY.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD COMPARISON.
EVENTUALLY RECOMMENDING A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE DO NOW.
UM, WE'RE EARLY IN THE PROCESS, BUT YES, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, WHAT, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR, I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU CHANGE AND PROBABLY TO, UM, THIS ONE THAT'S A FLAT RATE IMPERVIOUS AREA BASIS.
IT'S THE MOST FAIR, EQUITABLE, IT'S EASILY UNDERSTOOD.
YOU, YOU GUYS HAVE THE DATA TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST INDICATION.
BUT WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER FRAMEWORKS JUST TO MAKE SURE.
I DON'T WANNA PREMATURELY, UM, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADED AT THE MOMENT.
SOMEWHERE IN THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF MY HOUSE IS AND USE THAT.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT THE HEATED SPACE.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT A TWO STORY HOME AND THE ROOFTOP AREA IS, UH, SAY 2000 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING.
WE'RE NOT USING 4,000 BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TWO STORIES.
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T, THAT SECOND STORY DOESN'T GENERATE MORE RUNOFF, RIGHT? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY.
SO IN SOUTH CAROLINA YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHO'S USING SIMILAR TYPES OF, UM, PROGRAMS AS YOU GUYS.
AND THEN THE CHART ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THAT'S FROM THE SOUTHEAST IS FROM THE SOUTHEAST STORMWATER ASSOCIATION.
UM, THEY DO A QUESTIONNAIRE EVERY YEAR AND, AND THAT'S THE RESULTS.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF IN THE MINORITY WITH THE IMPERVIOUS AND GROSS AREA METHOD.
UM, THERE'S A SUBSET OF THAT THAT ANOTHER 4% OF COMMUNITIES RECOMMEND, BUT I WOULDN'T, I I DIDN'T EVEN DESCRIBE THAT ONE.
IT'S, IT'S GOT SOME ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT JUST AREN'T, UM, VALID.
THE IMPERVIOUS AREA ONLY METHOD USING IMPERVIOUS AREA, UM, AND NOT GROSS AREA.
ABOUT 83% OF COMMUNITIES ARE USING THAT, UH, IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER.
UM, WHAT I BROUGHT TO YOU TODAY IS AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT US TO PROVIDE.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH ANOTHER COMMUNITY.
I DIDN'T PUT THEIR NAME ON HERE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T PRESENTED THIS INFORMATION TO THEIR COUNCIL YET.
SO, UM, THEY INITIALLY SET UP SOME GOALS VERY SIMILAR TO YOURS.
AND I THINK THE ONE OR TWO THAT ARE REALLY MOST CRITICAL, UM, FOR YOU GUYS IS THAT THEY WANTED TO, UH, NUMBER ONE MOVE TO KIND OF A MORE PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
AND SO PART OF WHAT THEY WERE AFTER WAS FUNDING THAT, THAT CHANGE.
UH, THEY ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD SUFFICIENT REVENUE TO MAINTAIN THEIR STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM AT ITS CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE, THAT IT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IT WAS, UH, WITH MODEST IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN THE LAST BULLET IS KIND OF GOES WITHOUT SAYING, REGARDLESS OF THE ACTUAL NEED, THEY WANTED THE ABILITY OF THE CITIZENS TO PAY THE BILL TO BE A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION.
AND IT'S LIKEWISE HERE, WE'RE NOT GONNA RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO SOME, UH, OR HAVE A REVENUE GOAL THAT YOUR CITIZENS JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY.
WE INCLUDE A NUMBER OF MODIFIERS IN OUR, UH, ESTIMATES.
SO WE WILL LOOK AT INFLATION WAGE INCREASES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT YOUR SYSTEM GROWTH.
WE BASE THAT OFF OF POPULATION GROWTH AND SYSTEM DECAY.
SO WE HAVE SOME INDUSTRY STANDARDS THAT WILL APPLY THAT SAYS, OVER TIME YOUR SYSTEM'S GONNA DETERIORATE JUST LIKE AN AUTOMOBILE DOES, YOUR HOME DOES EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND SO WE'LL INCLUDE, UM, MONEY IN OUR ANALYSIS TO, UM, TO COVER THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES AND COLLECTION RATES.
UM, AND ALL OF THIS IS PART OF GENERATING THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU NEED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE, UH, YOUR FEDERAL COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR NPDS PERMIT? HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN YOUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM AT A CERTAIN LEVEL TO MAIN EITHER MAINTAIN OR IMPROVE LEVEL OF SERVICE? HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED TO PAY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS? AND THEN TO FUND ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT GO WITH IT.
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IN THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, UH, YOU CAN SEE THEY HAD, UM, ABOUT NINE OR 10 DIFFERENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ALREADY IDENTIFIED.UH, THEY WANTED US TO ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD, UM, PAY CASH FOR ALL THAT CIP.
UM, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE EXPECTING TO GET GRANTS FOR SOME, THIS KIND OF GAVE THEM A BOUNDARY TO LOOK AT.
UH, THEY ALSO WANTED TO ASSUME THAT ALL OF 'EM WERE DONE WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR PLANNING PERIOD.
AND SO, UH, WE CAN DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR FOR YOU.
AND, AND TYPICALLY WHAT I WOULD DO IS LOOK AT YOUR CIP LIST AND GO, HERE'S IF YOU PAID CASH FOR EVERYTHING AND WANTED TO GET EVERYTHING DONE IN THE PLANNING PERIOD.
AND HERE'S THE BOTTOM END IF ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA GET GRANTS FOR MOST OF THIS WORK AND YOU'RE GONNA SPREAD IT OUT OVER A LITTLE BIT LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU TWO BOOKENDS WHERE YOU CAN GO.
THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF THE LOW END AND THIS IS THE HIGH END THAT YOU OUGHT TO BE AT.
WE THEN LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER, UM, SUPPORT ACTIVITIES AND AND MAINTENANCE.
THE ONE ITEM THAT I'D POINT OUT FOR YOU HERE IS THAT COMING UP WITH HOW MUCH YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING ON MAINTENANCE, UM, IS DIFFICULT TO DO.
WE USE SOME INDUSTRY AGAINST SOME INDUSTRY RULES OF THUMB.
AND IT'S BASICALLY ONE TO 2% OF YOUR SYSTEM.
REPLACEMENT VALUE IS WHAT YOU OUGHT TO BE SPENDING ON INSPECTION, CLEANING, REPAIR, AND IN-HOUSE REPLACEMENT.
ANNUALLY AND FAR THIS COMMUNITY, THEY HAD ABOUT $226 MILLION WORTH OF INVENTORY IN THE GROUND THAT THEY OWN, OPERATE, MAINTAIN.
THAT'S NOT DOT STUFF, JUST THEIRS FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
DONE A PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT AND IT'S AROUND 300 MILLION IS WHAT YOU OWN, WHAT YOU'VE GOT BURIED OUT THERE IN, IN THE GROUND, NOT COUNTING THE DOT DID, NOT COUNTING DOT OR PRIVATE ROADS.
THAT'S SIMPLY WHAT'S WITHIN YOUR ROAD RIGHT AWAY.
SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAKE THAT ONE TO 2% OF, OF THAT 300 MILLION AND THAT'LL GIVE YOU A GENERAL SENSE OF, OF WHERE YOU PROBABLY SHOULD BE IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE SPENDING.
AND IF YOU TAKE THOSE KINDS OF NUMBERS AND GO BACK AND LOOK AT, SAY YOUR AUTOMOBILE, UH, IT'S PROBABLY VERY CLOSE, ALTHOUGH THOSE NUMBERS ARE SET SPECIFICALLY FOR PIPE SYSTEMS. SO I DON'T WANNA CONFUSE SOMEBODY THERE.
UM, WE ALSO DID A COMMUNITY COMPARISON, WHICH YOU GUYS WILL BENEFIT FROM.
UM, AND THE TOOLBAR OVER THERE IS BLOCKING THE NAMES, BUT THAT THAT'S OKAY.
IT'S BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER COMMUNITIES IN, IN THE LOW COUNTRY, UH, HOW THEY'RE GROWING, WHAT AREA THEY SERVE, UM, WHAT THEIR REVENUES ARE IN, IN THEIR, UH, UTILITY.
UM, THE ONE THAT'S PROBABLY OF MOST NOTICED THAT REVENUE PER CAPITA KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS RIGHT NOW ON AVERAGE, UM, YOU GUYS ARE ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR, YOUR, UM, NEIGHBORS.
THAT MEANS WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO GO UP, GO DOWN AND IT, AND YOU WON'T BE OUT OF RANGE WITH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE, IN, AS PART OF THE STATE'S PAY OREGON.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I WILL, UM, IN, IN GENERAL WHAT WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU AT THE END OF THIS, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS NOW.
WE'VE HAD ONE MEETING WITH YOUR STAFF TO BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THEY NEED IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, HOW THEY DO MAINTENANCE, HOW THEY DO CIP REPLACEMENT, WHAT GOES INTO, UM, MAINTAINING THEIR STORMWATER UTILITY DATABASE.
AND THEN ALSO UNDERSTANDING BUDGETS.
WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH YOUR LAST FIVE YEARS WORTH OF BUDGETS FOR STORMWATER TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE TRENDS HAVE BEEN.
WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH A, A PROGRAM OVERVIEW AT THE END.
WE WILL MAKE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ON YOUR RATE STRUCTURE.
WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE A BIT OF A, UM, UH, CASHFLOW ANALYSIS THAT WE'LL SHOW AT THIS RATE.
THIS IS HOW MUCH YOU WOULD GENERATE.
THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED IN TERMS OF YOUR O AND MCIP AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.
WE'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON YOUR CREDIT SYSTEM.
YOU DO OFFER CREDITS CURRENTLY, SO WE'LL WANNA MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN SOME OF THAT.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY WE WILL MAKE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ON, UM, ON YOUR BILLING DATABASE AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND IT SHOULD PUT YOU IN A GOOD PLACE AGAIN, WHERE YOU'VE GOT A SYSTEM THAT'S EASILY UNDERSTOOD, GENERATING THE MONEY THAT YOU NEED TO GENERATE.
UH, TRY NOT TO CHANGE ANYONE'S BILL TOO MUCH, KEEP IT ABOUT WHERE IT IS TODAY.
UM, THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME UP AND SOME DOWN OVER THIS PROCESS.
WE CAN'T KEEP EVERYBODY EXACTLY THE SAME.
UM, BUT WE, WE ARE AWARE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP FIRST TO THOSE ONLINE AND THEN WE'LL, UH, COUNCILMAN RES OR COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST ONE QUESTION.
UM, GREAT PRESENTATION, LOT OF INFORMATION.
UM, DID THE STORM STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD
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GET THIS? DID THEY AGREE WITH IT ON THE EXPLANATION AND HOW, HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK ON THE ASSESSMENT AND ALL? HOW'D THAT GO? WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED TO THE STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD.THEY'LL GET A MORE IN DEPTH, UM, VIEW OF THE RESTRUCTURE WHEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.
THIS WAS A PRELIMINARY PRESENTATION SO THAT, UH, COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN THE BACKGROUND.
COUNCILMAN PASSMAN, YOU HAD A QUESTION? YES.
UM, UH, WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF GATHERING DATA.
I'VE STARTED SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY FINANCIAL STUFF, I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, THESE NEW RATES WILL, OKAY, THAT WAS MY ASSUMPTION THAT OKAY.
YOU WILL BE DOING THE STUDY NOW AND THE IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH WOULD BE WE'RE ALREADY SET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
YOU'RE GONNA INTRODUCE IT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR AFTER THAT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES, SIR.
OUR GOAL IS FOR THIS TO BE THE LAST YEAR THAT WE USE OUR CURRENT DATABASE FOR TAX RUN.
AND THEN OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT, UM, TO START MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS BY SEPTEMBER.
UM, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO START VOTING ON SOMETHING, STARTING WITH OUR STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD AROUND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR TO GET IT IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO OUR TAX RUN STARTING IN SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UM, LOOKING AT THIS, UH, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT STORM WATER FEES AND, UM, AND, AND BEING THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS COMPLICATED, SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SIMPLIFY.
NOW, I'M ALSO GLAD TO KNOW THAT, UM, AGRICULTURE HAS A BASE, UM, ASSESSMENT.
UM, I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT AREAS THAT, UM, HAVE STORM WATER FEES, BUT AS A COUNCIL, WE CANNOT PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THEM.
AND I USE AN EXAMPLE, FRIPP ISLAND, UM, THEY WILL PAY THE STORMWATER FEES, BUT AS FAR AS SERVICES, BECAUSE THERE'S A PRIVATE ISLAND, THEY GET NOTHING IN RETURN.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS TO PAY EVEN BY CHURCH, GOTTA PAY THE STORM WATER FEES, UM, IS THERE A BASE RATE THAT COULD BE APPLIED TO SOMETHING LIKE FRI ISLAND RESIDENTS WHO ARE PRIVATE AND DO NOT GET ANY STORM WATER SERVICES? THAT'S, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO PAY A FEE AND I GET NO SERVICE.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND I'LL LET MR. HOWELL, UM, WEIGH IN AS WELL.
BUT I DID WANNA STATE THAT, UH, WE DO THINGS LIKE OUR REGULATORY PROGRAM IS COUNTYWIDE FOR THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY.
SO WE ARE PERFORMING PLAN REVIEWS FOR DEVELOPMENTS COMING ONTO FIP.
WE'RE INSPECTING THOSE AS THEY'RE BEING CONSTRUCTED ALSO.
UM, THOSE KIND OF COMMUNITIES ARE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR RUNOFF AND THE POLLUTION THAT'S HAPPENING, UM, IN OUR LOCAL WATERWAYS.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE THOUGHT BEHIND CHARGING THE STORMWATER UTILITY FEE, UM, COUNTYWIDE.
AS FAR AS THE UNINCORPORATED, WE ALSO DO MANAGE THE LARGER SYSTEMS THAT THOSE SMALLER SYSTEMS FEED INTO.
SO ALTHOUGH WE CAN'T GO OUT AND REPAIR THEIR SYSTEM NECESSARILY, WE DO PROVIDE SERVICES IN A WAY FOR EVEN THE PRIVATE COMMUNITIES FOR STORM WATER.
BUT I'LL LET MR. HOW WEIGH IN TO THAT AS WELL.
WELL, THAT WAS A GOOD RESPONSE.
I HAD A QUESTION IN PARTICULAR IF I, IF I MAY.
UH, WHY WASN'T THIS, YOU GONNA FINISH MY QUESTION, ROSS DIRECT? I'M SORRY.
IS IS HE GOING TO ANSWER? I THINK SHE, I THINK SHE'S GOT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD SOME COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU CAN OFFER CERTAIN CREDITS, UM, IF YOU'D PREFER YOU LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL, LIKE PROPERTIES THAT DRAIN OR DISCHARGE DIRECTLY TO A WATERWAY OR THOSE THAT MAINTAIN THEIR OWN SYSTEM.
IF THEY'RE PROVIDING A BENEFIT TO THE, TO THE COUNTY AND YOUR STORMWATER PROGRAM, THEN WE CAN OFFER CERTAIN CREDITS IF YOU, IF YOU PREFER AND YOU WOULD LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.
WHY WASN'T THIS R GIVEN TO THE STORMWATER MEETING? WE HAD A STORMWATER MEETING LAST WEEK AND, UH, TOM REEDS AND I SIT ON THAT.
WHY WASN'T WE GIVE, WHY WEREN'T WE GIVEN A ROUGH DRAFT OF THIS? UM, WE'VE PRESENTED THE ISSUES TO THE STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT, UM, WAYS, AND THIS WAS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ORIENTED TOWARDS COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL SO THAT THEY WOULD BE AWARE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RESTRUCTURE SO THAT WHEN WE DO COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS THAT EVERYONE WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF BASE KNOWLEDGE.
I'LL REITERATE, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER MORE IN DEPTH, UM, PRESENTATION THAT WILL HAP WHEN WE HAVE SOME PROPOSED NEW STRUCTURES THAT WE WILL PRESENT TO THE STORMWATER UTILITY BOARD PRIOR TO ANY KIND OF VOTING OR ANYTHING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO, I, I, IF, IF I MIGHT.
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COUNCILMAN DAWSON, IF I'D JUST LIKE TO INQUIRE AS TO, UH, THE RATE AND THE FEES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AND THE ANALYSIS OF THE WHOLE PROGRAM.HOW, HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE YOUR FEES BETWEEN, UH, STORM WATER RUNOFF, UM, AND THE RURAL AREAS VERSUS THE SUBURB SUBURBAN AREAS? QUESTION.
HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU DO THAT? YEP.
SO THE, THE PRIMARY ISSUE IS, UM, HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL WATER IS COMING OFF OF ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY DUE TO CHANGES YOU'VE MADE TO THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? SO IF, IF YOU'RE IN A MORE RURAL AREA WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, LESS IMPERVIOUS AREA, YOU, YOU'LL GET A LESSER BILL.
IF YOU'RE IN A HIGHLY URBANIZED AREA WHERE YOU'RE GENERATING MORE ADDITIONAL RUNOFF, YOUR FROM YOUR PROPERTY DUE TO ROOFTOPS AND DRIVEWAYS AND TENNIS COURTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THEN YOU'LL, YOU'LL PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN, UM, LAND USE TYPES.
IT'S, IT'S BASED OFF OF THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA YOU'VE ADDED TO THAT PROPERTY THAT GENERATES MORE RUNOFF THAN WHAT WOULD'VE NATURALLY COME OFF IF THAT PROPERTY WERE UNDEVELOPED.
IS THAT, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, SORRY, I HAVE A REGULATORY QUESTION.
I NOTICED ON THE MAP, THERE'S A LOT OF COUNTIES DON'T HAVE IT.
UM, IS THE RAPID GROWTH OF JASPER COUNTY, WHAT'S THE POPULATION THRESHOLD WHEN THEY'LL HAVE TO START COMPLYING? SO IT'S NOT BASED OFF OF PURELY POPULATION, IT'S NOT, IT'S URBANIZED AREA.
SO IT'S MORE OF A POPULATION DENSITY ME, UM, METRIC THAT THEY USE MM-HMM
BUT, UH, THE DESIGNATIONS COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.
SO, UM, ASPER COUNTY WILL COME CLOSE SOON, OR I BELIEVE YES, MA'AM.
UM, AND SOMETIMES IT DOES TAKE A MINUTE FOR THEM TO ISSUE THE MS FOUR DESIGNATION, UM, AFTER THE CENSUS DATA COMES OUT.
UM, BUT I DO, WE DO LOOK FOR JASPER TO HAVE A PHASE TWO PERMIT SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH THEIR RATE OF GROWTH.
AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE BACK WHEN THE, UM, SO LOCO DID THE REGIONAL STORM WATER, UH, PLAN THAT WAS, I THINK, ANTICIPATED, WHICH IS GOOD.
SO AT LEAST THEY'RE, THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR Y'ALL? IT WAS GREAT PRESENTATION.
[8.b. Discussion of Former GlassWRX Facility Due Diligence Assessment for Potential Acquisition (FISCAL IMPACT: ) - Frank Stroncheck -- Director Facilites Bradley Harriott -- Director Public Works 10 minutes]
THANKS.I THINK NEXT IS, UH, C NO, I'M SORRY, B DISCUSSION OF THE FORMER GLASSWORK FACILITY DUE DILIGENCE ASSESSMENT FOR POTENTIAL, UM, ACQUISITION.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE FRANK, UM, STONE CHECK, STRS CHECK.
AM I SAYING IT RIGHT, FRANK? PERFECT.
AND, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BRADLEY.
HARRIET, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, BRADLEY HARRIET AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE, UH, SPOKE ABOUT LAST MONTH AT PFC ABOUT BRINGING, UM, UH, DUE DILIGENCE INFORMATION BACK TO THE COUNCIL, UH, IN GETTING A PLACEHOLDER DOLLAR AMOUNT, UH, AND THEN BEING ABLE TO POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD.
UM, SO, UH, THIS IS THE FORMER GLASSWORKS FACILITY, UH, COUNCIL DISCUSSION REQUESTING DIRECTION TO MOVE FROM A PLACEHOLDER DUE DILIGENCE, UH, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN A DUE DILIGENCE FROM, UH, LS THREE P IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,000 FOR THE GLASSWORKS DUE DILIGENCE.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING COUNSEL TO CONSIDER THE $120,000 PLACEHOLDER DOLLAR AMOUNT, UH, TO ACTUALLY MOVE INTO A FORMAL QUOTE, UH, AND THEN ACTUALLY RETURN TO COUNSEL AFTER THE REPORT WITH A FULL FLEDGED, UH, DUE DILIGENCE REPORT OF THAT FACILITY.
UH, AND AGAIN, THIS KEEPS THE COUNTY FROM MAKING A MAJOR CAPITAL DECISION WITHOUT FIRST UNDERSTANDING THE ZONING CODE, ENVIRONMENTAL BUILDING CONDITIONS, AND, UH, ANY OTHER RISKS.
SO THE PROPERTY AT A SNAPSHOT HERE, WE SEE THE PROPERTY AS $7.15 MILLION.
UH, IT'S NEARLY 84,000 SQUARE FEET AND SITS ON 35.7 ACRES BUILT IN 1976.
THE LISTING INFORMATION IS USEFUL FOR THE SCREENING AND DUE DILIGENCE REPORT.
UH, IT ALREADY HAS CLASS A OFFICE SPACE ABOUT 18,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S GOT A LAB, IT HAS PRODUCTION LOADING STORAGE AND LAY DOWN AREAS, ET CETERA, WHILE MATTERS, UH, SEVERAL OPERATIONAL GROUPS ARE WORKING WITHIN OLDER CONSTRAINED FACILITIES, UH, WHEREAS SPACE PARKING, STORAGE SITE CIRCULATION LIMIT, THEIR DAILY OPERATIONS AND LONG-TERM
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PLANNING.UH, PUBLIC WORKS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS AGING BUILDINGS, LIMITED SITE FLEXIBILITY AND VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT CIRCULATION, UH, DIFFICULTIES.
A LARGER STRATEGICALLY LOCATED PROPERTY COULD REDUCE LONG-TERM FRAGMENTED, UH, FRAGMENTATION IF DUE DILIGENT REPORT COMES BACK POSITIVE.
SO WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS IF CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE CAN CONSOLIDATE OPERATIONS.
SECONDLY, WE CAN INVEST ONCE AND USE LONG TERM THIRD BUILD OR EXPAND, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING, UH, AND IMPROVE ON SERVICE DELIVERY.
THE VALUE IS NOT JUST THE BUILDING, IT'S THE COMBINATION OF BUILDING LAND, UTILITIES, ACCESS AND EXPANSION, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO CURRENTLY, IF WE WERE TO TRY TO PURCHASE 36 ACRES SOMEWHERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND BUILD A FACILITY THAT'S 90,000 SQUARE FEET, WE WOULD SPEND $90 MILLION AT A MEDIUM PRICE RANGE, 70 MILLION AT THE LOW END, AND 109 MILLION AT THE HIGH END.
THE CENTRAL DUE DILIGENCE QUESTION, CAN A FORMER MANUFACTURING FACILITY BE LEGALLY, SAFELY AND COST EFFECTIVELY CONVERTED INTO COUNTY OPERATIONS? UH, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS UP THERE WOULD BE EXAMINED AND DUE DILIGENCE WOULD BE, UH, REPORTED.
ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS BEFORE PURCHASING DECISIONS PROTECTS THE COUNTY FROM OBVIOUSLY UNKNOWN CAPITAL PERMITTING AND OCCUPANCY RISKS.
WHAT LS THREE P WOULD BE ASKED TO PRICE.
WE WOULD ASK THEM TO PRICE THE ZONING AND APPROVAL PATH CODE AND LIFE SAFETY, A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL AND PROGRAMMING AND CONCEPT PLAN.
AND THE PROGRAMMING WOULD BE WHERE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, DISSECT A BUILDING AND DETERMINE HOW IT WOULD BE DISSECTED AND HOW MANY FACILITIES COULD GO IN THERE OR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND HOW THAT WOULD LOOK.
UH, DELIVERABLE COUNCIL, COUNCIL READY, UH, EXECUTIVE SUMMARY, RISK REGISTER, CONCEPTUAL PLANS, AND, UH, THE OPINION OF COST BY PHASE AND COST BUCKET.
SO PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AS FAR AS DELIVERABLES FOR $120,000, HOW THE SITE COULD SUPPORT MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.
WE HAVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS UP THERE.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THOSE ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE DEEMED NECESSARY TO BE THERE.
PUBLIC WORKS WITHOUT A DOUBT IS, BUT THAT'S A BREAKDOWN OF EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW WE COULD BEGIN SKETCHING OUT THAT, UM, A CONCEPT PLAN IS REQUIRED BEFORE FINAL OCCUPANCY PLANNING.
SO BEFORE WE DID ANYTHING IN THAT ARENA, WE WOULD HAVE CONCEPT PLAN AND WE WOULD HAVE, UM, SOME ROBUST DEBATES.
UM, AS FAR AS OPERATIONALLY, WHAT MAKES SENSE, COST CLARITY BEFORE COMMITMENT, UH, BEFORE CLOSING, OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY DEAL BREAKERS BEFORE OCCUPANCY.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE IF THERE'S ANY LIFE SAFETY CONCERNS, ADDRESS THOSE FIRST 12 MONTHS, TAKE CARE OF ANY REPAIRS AND FUTURE CAPITAL YEARS WOULD BE EXPANSION, RISK GUARD, RAIL RAILS IN RECOMMENDATION DIRECTIONS.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THE AUTHORIZATION TO GO FROM PLACEHOLDER TO AN ACTUAL QUOTE TO AN ACTUAL DUE DILIGENCE SO THAT WE CAN COME BACK, RETURN TO YOU WITH THE REPORT AND WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
COUNCILMAN PASSMAN? UM, SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMITTEE TO GO TO COUNSEL TO DO THIS? WE ARE.
AND I WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE REQUEST STAFF TO, UH, FORMALIZE THE LS THREE P ASSOCIATES DUE DILIGENCE PROPOSAL WITH SCOPE, DISCIPLINE, SCHEDULE, DELIVERABLES, TROPHY FEE AMOUNT, AND THEN RETURN TO COUNCIL.
CAN'T WE DISCUSS THIS BACK AT BEAUFORT COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COURT? YES.
THEY WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO GO IN THERE.
SO WHAT DO WE WANNA DO? WE WANNA BUY THIS, THE COUNTY WANTS TO BUY THIS.
UH, WE WANT TO, AS A FACILITY, WE WANT TO EXECUTE THE DUE DILIGENCE TO, NUMBER ONE, OBVIOUSLY IDENTIFY WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A BUILDING THAT WE COULD PURCHASE.
AND THEN TWO, IF THAT COMES BACK AS YES, IT'S A GREAT BUILDING AND YOU CAN PUT IN FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THERE, THEN OPERATIONALLY,
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UH, IT MAKES SENSE TO PUT IN PUBLIC WORKS TO PUT IN STORM WATER, TO PUT IN, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE ENTITIES WHO, NUMBER ONE, ARE WORKING IN C OR D RATED BUILDINGS.NOW, ACCORDING TO THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT WE JUST CONDUCTED ABOUT FOUR MONTHS AGO, UM, NOT ONLY THAT, THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY ABILITY FOR ANY EXPANSION.
UM, NOT ONLY THAT, CURRENTLY THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY LAY DOWN YARD SPACE, UH, 2, 3, 4 ACRES, BRADLEY, I'M NOT SURE.
UM, AND BRADLEY CAN PROBABLY, YEAH, I THINK WE JUST WANTED TO, LIKE I SAID, DO DUE DILIGENCE ON IT BEFORE WE, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A PLAN GOING FORWARD TO BUILD A PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING, BUT THAT POLAR WORKS BUILDING, WE'RE STILL GONNA BE CONSTRAINED FOR THE NEXT FOREVER BECAUSE OLD POLAR WORKS SITE IS A LANDFILL.
SO WE HAVE HARDLY ZERO ROOM TO EXPAND.
I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME EVEN PLACING A NEW BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE NOW.
SO THIS, WE'VE SEEN THIS WAS FOR SALE AND JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, WE AT LEAST HATE TO PASS IT UP IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE.
SO WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO PASS IT UP.
IT MAY COME BACK THAT WE DON'T, WE GET A POOR RATING AND MAYBE NOT MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE JUST DO.
WE HATE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PASS UP.
'CAUSE THIS WOULD BE A TURNKEY DEAL.
UM, I CAN PUT ALL OF PUBLIC WORKS UNDER ONE ROOF.
ALL MY EMPLOYEES WOULD, ALONG WITH OTHER FACILITIES, UM, WITH THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING SIZE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD, BASICALLY WE'D BE AT MAX CAPACITY WHEN THEY BUILD IT AT, WHAT DO WE DO? THE OLD BUILDING? WELL, THERE'S A PROJECT FOR THE OLD BUILDING.
AND HOW, HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD YOU WORK THIS? WHAT, IN YOUR MIND, HOW WOULD, WOULD YOU WORK WITH THAT PARALLEL PROJECT IN THIS ONE IF, IF, IF THIS BUILDING PROVED TO BE FEASIBLE? SO, YEAH, BUT I THINK WE WOULD PUT, WE'RE STILL GONNA PUT A NEW ROOF ON THE P WORKS BUILDING NOW THE EXISTING P WORKS BUILDING, SO THAT WAS APPROVED TO PUT A NEW ROOF ON IT.
WE JUST DID SOME, UM, REMODEL WORK AND SOME REMEDIATION WORK THERE A YEAR AGO.
UM, I THINK THIS, THE P WORKS BUILDING NOW COULD BE REUSED, UM, FOR, I DON'T KNOW, FLEET OR WHOEVER DECIDES TO, YOU KNOW, STAY THERE.
I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD BUILDING FOR SOMEBODY, BUT WE WOULD STAY WHERE WE'RE AT NOW ONCE THE OTHER BUILDING WAS.
AND HOW MUCH IS THE, WAS THE ROOF PROJECT FOR PUBLIC WORKS APPROXIMATELY 2 38? I BELIEVE IT WAS.
OR, AND THAT WAS MY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE FLEET.
YOU'D KEEP THE FLEET THERE AT THAT LOCATION, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE KIND OF HOLDUPS WE'VE, SO IF WE TRIED TO BUILD A NEW POLAR WORKS BUILDING IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT, WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO WITH FLEET? FLEET CAN'T STOP OPERATING.
WE CAN KIND OF RE WORK REMOTELY.
WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE WHILE THE BUILDING WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SO WE CAN KIND OF, THE PUBLIC WORKS CAN KIND OF MOVE OUT.
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF CAN KIND OF MOVE OUT FLEET, BUT FLEET CAN'T, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE GARAGE GOING.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE KIND OF HANGUPS ON FLEET COULD STAY OPERATIONAL.
AND THEN MAYBE OVER TIME FLEET COULD EITHER, YOU KNOW, REMODEL THEIR BUILDING, MAYBE EXPAND TO IT, WE'RE OUT OF THE WAY AND THEY COULD EXPAND FLEET AND THE SAME KIND OF FOOTPRINT AREA.
UM, WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THIS, I WAS KINDA LIKE, WHY WOULD WE, WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GO INTO A VERY GOOD SITE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? BUT HAVE YOU COORDINATED, HAS STAFF COORDINATED WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, WHAT ARE, IS IT AT ALL OR DO WE WE HAVE NOT AT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WE FIGURED, FIRST OF ALL, WE OBVIOUSLY NEEDED THE HEAD NOD FROM COUNSEL, UH, AND THEN SORT OF, UM, PROBABLY HAVE COUNSEL DIRECT US IN THAT DIRECTION IF WE DECIDE TO GO FORWARD.
UM, MR. MOORE, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT? I WAS GONNA SAY THE, UH, GLASSWORKS IS, THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH GONE OUT OF BUSINESS.
SO IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THERE OTHER THAN THE BUILDING IS NOW FOR SALE AND, UH, THEY'VE LOOKED AT OTHER, I THINK THERE'VE BEEN OTHER, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE LOOKED AT IT, BUT SO FAR NOBODY HAS REALLY MADE AN OFFER ON IT YET, SO.
SO IT'S OUT THERE FOR SALE AND UH, TO CLEAR DEBTS AND SO FORTH? AS FAR AS I KNOW.
COUNCILMAN GLOVER, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH, I MEAN, I HAVE THE SAME, UM, CONCERN THAT MRS. HOWARD JUST RAISED.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS LOOKING AT PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, THIS IS A PRODUCT, UM, THAT THEY COULD, UM, MARKET ON THE BOARD AND STUFF.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I SEE THE, THE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, UM, BUILDING, BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT A 40,000 SQUARE FEET BUILDING.
NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT A 90 SQUARE FEET BUILDING, 90,000 SQUARE FEET BUILDING.
AND YOU WAS SAYING THAT THE 40,000 WAS ALMOST FULL TO CAPACITY.
AND I, I, I DON'T WANT YOU TO COMMENT ON THAT BECAUSE I ASKED JERRY THE ORIGINAL, THE, THE FOOTPRINT WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING NOW IS ONLY ABOUT 17,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND WE REDUCED THAT TO THAT CHANGED AND THAT BOND, THE BOND WE HAVE FOR, THAT'S ABOUT 25 MILLION.
SO WE WOULD USE UP ALL 25 MILLION TO BUILD A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
UM, BECAUSE THE LAST WORD I HEARD SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, IT WAS A 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND STUFF.
BUT, UM, I'LL LEAVE THAT ALONE.
SO I, I DO SUPPORT MOVING IT FORWARD, UM, TO ENGAGE.
NOW THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, UH, IS THIS PROPERTY IN THE CITY OR THE COUNTY? YES, SIR.
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IN THE CITY LIMITS OF YOUR S ANNEX AREA.IT'S, IT'S NOT IN THE NEW BUSINESS PARK.
UM, WHAT THEY HAVE THE COMMERCIAL PARK, BUT IT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT NEW BUSINESS PARK AREA.
IT'S KIND OF IN THE OLDER BUSINESS DISTRICT THERE OR, AND SO HOW IS THAT, UH, I HOPE WITH, WHEN LS THREE P LOOK AT IT, THEY'LL LOOK AT THE ADVANTAGE DISADVANTAGE AND RELATE THAT TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE PROBABLY, IF WE GO IN THERE, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET THE KINDA REVENUE THEY WILL EXPECTING.
SO I, I, YOU KNOW, JUST PRETTY SURE JARED, JARED HAS HAD CONVERSATION, UM, WITH THE CITY.
HE, AND, AND THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH KIND OF LET US, THEY SAID Y'ALL CAN MOVE FORWARD, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UM, ANY HEARTBURN ABOUT IT.
AND JUST TO ADD, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THE PERMITTING WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WELL FOR ANY, ANY CHANGES WE'D WANNA MAKE.
HAS, HAS THE CITY EXPRESSED ANY INTEREST OF MOVING THEIR PUBLIC WORKS TO CON LIKE A JOINT FACILITY? NO, I THINK WE, I THINK JARED HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF OVER THERE, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THAT WENT, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, PUT IT OUT THERE, BUT NOT SURE WHAT, HOW FAR IT WENT.
ASSUMING THIS GOES FORWARD, I WILL TALK TO MR. MARSHALL JUST TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT OUR, WHERE WE'RE HEADING ON THIS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNED WITH HIM.
YEAH, I MEAN, THEY HAVE THE BIG EQUIPMENT TO FIX THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND STUFF.
ANOTHER QUESTION, I ALSO FOR YOU TO, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD BECAUSE YOU'VE TAKEN OFF ONE OF THEIR PRODUCTS MM-HMM
I THINK IT'S JUST GOOD COMMUNICATION.
UH, I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I THINK GOOD COMMUNICATION, WE, WE CAN MAKE SURE MR. O'TOOLES AWARE OF THIS AS WELL.
HOW, HOW MANY ACRES? YOU SAID 35 ACRES, DOES THAT COUNT THE, THE 90,000 SQUARE FACILITY? OR IS THAT IT DOES, IT DOES.
AND THERE'S ABOUT, UH, UH, 22 ACRES THAT'S, UH, THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUILD ON.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL 30, 30 SOMETHING ACRES THAT, BUT ARE RIGHT BEHIND THIS PROPERTY THAT'S KIND OF LANDLOCKED.
UM, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY COULD OWN AS WELL FOR, FOR THAT AREA.
SO IT COULD REALLY BE A, I MEAN, TO EXPAND ON, ARE THERE STILL PLANS TO EXPAND OUR COMPOST PROGRAM TOO? YES, MA'AM.
AND THAT'S ONE REASON WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS AREA AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE COULD RUN A BIGGER COMPOST PROGRAM, UM, IN THIS AREA AND THEN STILL BE ABLE TO GET VARIANCE FROM MCAS.
WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED INTO THAT ALREADY, SO TO GET A VARIANCE FROM THEM AND WE, WE, WE CAN DO A LOT MORE WITH THIS AREA AND WE COULD ALL, WE COULD RUN A, WE COULD DO A, SO WE HAD A MOTION IN A SECOND.
UH, ALL, ALL YOU WANNA REPEAT THE MOTION PLEASE? THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THEM, UH, HIRE LS AND MOVE IT FORWARD TO FULL COUNSEL.
MOVE IT FORWARD TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE.
IT NEEDS TO GO TO FULL COUNSEL.
SO WE HAVE, HOW MUCH IS IT AND ONE AGAINST, DO YOU GET IT? OKAY.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT HOW MUCH IS THE COST OF THIS 20,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO COMMITTEE DO THIS COMMITTEE CAN DO THAT.
I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT BASED ON THE COST.
SO DID YOU GET THE COUNT? MS. BROCK HAD ONE? YES, MA'AM.
OH, NOW YOU GOT ONLINE TO SET TO WITH THE DUE DILIGENCE.
AND I'LL, YOU KNOW, I'M ONE OF THOSE ONES LIKE COUNSELING GLOVER.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A, A GOOD IDEA, BUT I'M GETTING CONVINCED THAT IT MIGHT BE.
[8.c. 2018 Sales Tax Quarterly Update (For Information Only) (FISCAL IMPACT: For Information Only) - Bryan Bauer, PE , Director of Engineering, & Jennifer Bragg, PE, J. Bragg Consulting, 2018 One Cent Sales Tax Program Manager (15 mins) ]
EIGHT C UH, THE 2018 SALES TAX QUARTERLY UPDATE FOR INFORMATION ONLY.THIS IS, UM, MR. BRIAN BAUER, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING AND JENNIFER BRAGG WITH BRAGG CONSULTING.
THIS IS AN UPDATE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
THIS IS JUST A QUARTERLY UPDATE, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER IN JUST A SECOND.
WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH, UM, THE SALES TAX.
SHOULD HAVE A FEW MORE PROJECTS GOING TO CONSTRUCTION, UM, WITHIN THE, BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND SINCE THE LAST TIME WE PRESENTED, WE HAVE UPDATED A COUPLE THINGS ON THE WEBSITE.
SO THERE'S UPDATED INFORMATION ON THERE.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL LET JENNIFER GET INTO MORE OF THE DETAILS.
JUST A REPEAT OF THE FUNDING FOR THE THREE MAJOR PROGRAMS WITHIN THE PROJECT.
AGAIN, WE'LL KEEP THIS FOR THE REPRIORITIZATION AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
SO THE LADIES ISLAND CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, AGAIN, WE'RE STILL IN DESIGN AND PERMITTING FOR SUNSET BOULEVARD AND MILLER DRIVE WEST.
WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT WITH DOT.
THAT SHOULD HOPEFULLY HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR APPROVAL.
THEN WE'LL BE ADVERTISING THAT ONE FOR CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THAT IS THE TRAFFIC CALMING AND RESURFACING THAT WAS REPRIORITIZED.
UH, THE 21 CORRIDOR IS STILL IN DESIGN.
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UH, WE SHOULD BE SUBMITTING PRELIMINARY RIGHT OF WAY PLANS TO DOT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, HOPEFULLY TO GET THEIR RIGHT OF WAY AUTHORIZATION TO START THE ACQUISITION FOR IT.THIS IS THE PORTION OUT BY THE WALMART FOR THE WIDENING.
SO IN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO FINALIZING AIRPORT FRONTAGE ROAD PHASE TWO THAT WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO FINISH THE PERMITTING BECAUSE THE PERMITTING IS TIED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
HAZEL FARM ROAD AND GABE DRIVE.
WE'VE STARTED, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE COMPLETED WHAT WE REFER TO AS A FEW PERMISSION TRACKS.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET PERMISSIONS FOR SLOPES TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION OR NPDS LIMITS, DRIVEWAYS.
UH, WE DO HAVE ACQUISITION TRACKS, SO THERE WILL BE SOME THINGS MOVING FORWARD.
LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL ACCESS ROAD.
WE'RE STILL IN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
WE'VE GOT FOUR TRACKS REMAINING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE'RE CLOSE ON SETTLEMENT FOR ANOTHER TRACK THAT, UM, WOULD BE COMING FORWARD FOR APPROVAL.
AND THEN, UH, THERE'S ONE OUTSTANDING TRACK THAT WE'RE STILL ON NEGOTIATION FROM HERE WITH LADIES ISLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
WE DO HAVE PERMITS IN PLACE AND WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FROM DOT FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO THIS IS ONE LATER THIS YEAR THAT WOULD GO TO CONSTRUCTION.
SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE ACTIVE ONES FOR THE CORRIDOR.
ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS JUST QUICKLY? SURE.
UM, WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, THE ON HOLD, UM, IS THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE EVEN LOOKED AT? IS THAT WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT? NO, SIR.
SO MAYFAIR COURT, EARLY ON AT THE VERY FIRST PUBLIC MEETING, THE VIRTUAL IT GOT PLACED ON HOLD.
THIS WAS ONE THAT THE EXTENSION ACTUALLY TIED TO A PRIVATE ROAD.
THE RESIDENTS OF THE PRIVATE ROAD DID NOT WANT THE PROJECT.
THE ONLY WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT WAS YOU WOULD'VE HAD TO CONDEMN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
SO IT WAS PLACED ON HOLD AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
UH, BEAUFORT HIGH SCHOOL WAS PLACED ON HOLD AFTER A LOT OF COORDINATION INTERNALLY WITH THE PARK FOR CRYSTAL PARK, CRYSTAL LAKE PARK.
UH, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT MOVING FORWARD.
UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, THAT WAS ONE.
WE LOOKED AT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS TO SEE IF ANYTHING WAS FEASIBLE.
AND THEN MEADOWBROOK DRIVE, IT WAS PLACED ON HOLD.
IT'S BASICALLY A, IT TURNED OUT TO BE A ROAD JUST FOR A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES.
THEY STILL HAVE ACCESS ELSEWHERE.
UM, I, UM, THE, THE ONE THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE HAZEL FARM ROAD AND, UH, GOING TO, GOING CLOSE TO THE CURVE RIGHT THERE, UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE, THE PROPERTY AND IS THERE ENOUGH PROPERTY FOR THE PATHWAY AS WELL AS THE ROAD IS GONNA BE TIGHT.
AND IT LOOKS TO ME THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT THAT PATHWAY AND THE PROPERTY IS GONNA BE IN SOMEBODY'S FRONT YARD.
UM, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PROCESS.
SO THERE ARE PLACES WHERE WE ARE GETTING RIGHT OF WAY, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS WITH THE WAY THE IT WAS DESIGNED.
IS THAT HOUSE GONNA BE SAFE TO LIVE IN? YES, SIR.
THE ROAD WILL ALSO HAVE CURBING TER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS QUESTION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.
THANK YOU MS. BRAGG, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I NOTICED ON ONE OF THE FIRST COUPLE SLIDES THAT YOU HAVE THE 80 MILLION THERE FOR THE, UH, CORRIDOR 2 78.
THAT IS STILL THE SAME AS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW? YES SIR.
THAT 80, THAT 80 MILLION IS STILL DEDICATED TO THE CORRIDOR PROJECT? YES.
IT'S THE FUNDING FOR THE 2 78 CORRIDOR HAS NEVER BEEN SHIFTED.
THAT WOULD TAKE COUNTY COUNCIL ACTION AND THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BRIDGE.
THAT 80 MILLION FROM THE 18 REFERENDUM IS STILL THERE FOR THE 2 78 CORRIDOR.
LISTEN, THAT YOU, THAT'S PERFECT.
I, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING OR MAKING THAT CLEAR.
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE ACTIVE SIDEWALKS AND PATHWAYS.
SO ALL JOY ROAD IS STILL IN CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE CONTRACTOR IS A LITTLE BEHIND.
IT WILL CONTINUE ON THROUGH THE SUMMER, UH, POTENTIALLY WRAP UP THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
WE'RE STILL ACTIVELY IN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
THAT SHOULD BE COMING TO A CLOSE HERE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD INTO
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ADVERTISING FOR CONSTRUCTION LATER THIS YEAR.UH, BROAD RIVER BOULEVARD, RILEY ROAD.
WE'RE AT PRELIMINARY RIGHT OF WAY PLANS.
WE ARE REVIEWING, UH, THEY STILL NEED TO GO TO S-C-D-O-T FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
UH, WE STILL NEED TO HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC MEETING FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.
UH, WE'LL GET THAT ADVERTISED TO PRESENT THE DESIGN FOR IT.
WE'RE AT PRELIMINARY RIGHT OF WAY PLANS.
THEY WILL GO TO S-C-D-O-T FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL TO START THAT ACQUISITION.
ABOUT THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
UH, THE COUNTY HAS BEEN MANAGING THE BURTON CHURCH ROAD.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S SHOWING 50% DESIGN, UH, NO RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
AND I'M ASSUMING NEXT WILL BE YOU'LL GET ABOUT 70% SUBMIT FOR PERMITS.
ON THAT ONE DEPOT ROAD, THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE.
WE ARE WORKING ON FINAL PROJECT CLOSEOUT, UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE PROJECT.
WE'RE IN RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
UH, THAT SEEMS TO BE GOING PRETTY WELL ON THAT CORRIDOR.
WE'RE STILL WRAPPING UP FINAL PERMITTING FOR IT.
AND WHILE I'M SHOWING DESIGN AT 70%, THEY ARE WORKING ON FINAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS, SAY AT PRELIMINARY RIGHT OF WAY PLANS.
WE'VE HAD COMMENTS FROM DOT, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE TO GET THOSE RESOLVED TO START THE RIGHT OF WAY, WAY ACQUISITION IN THIRD QUARTER.
AND THEN STEWART POINT, UM, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE TRACKS REMAINING FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AS FAR AS THE COMBINATION PROCESS GOES.
STILL WORKING WITH ELCO AND COMMERCE TO GET THE FINAL APPROVAL TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION ON IT.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE APPROVED HERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
SO WE CAN ADVERTISE IF, IF NO ONE ELSE HAS A QUESTION.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON SALEM ROAD.
IS THERE ANY, UH, WETLANDS PERMITS TO GET THAT ONE? WE WILL.
BUT IT SHOULD BE MINIMAL BECAUSE WE ARE GOING OVER THE CREEK WITH A BOARDWALK.
THE BOARDWALK'S STILL IN THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE? UH, THE BURNT CHURCH ROADS, THE NA MEANS THAT WE DON'T NEED ANY, ALL THE RIGHT OF WAYS ARE DONE BECAUSE THAT'S A STATE ROADS A IS IT'S WITHIN PRESENT RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ACQUISITION OF ANY OTHER RIGHT OF WAYS.
SO YES, I, I WANNA ASK CLARIFICATION IF, UH, IF YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 38 IN THE PACKET, IT SAYS THIS RELATES TO MR. REEDS US 2 78 CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.
IT SAID CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW THREE LANE, EASTBOUND BRIDGE, UM, STRIPED FOR TWO LANES, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
MATTHEW COULD DEMOLITION OF EXISTING.
SO THAT MEANS THE 8 MILLION IS GOING TO THE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS NOT WHAT MR. RES ASKED MR. REEDS.
YOUR SLIDE THAT YOU PRESENTED HERE TODAY, I THINK GO TO THE FIRST ONE, SECOND ONE.
SO WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
THAT 80 MILLION IS NOT TOWARD THE, FOR THE BRIDGE, IT'S FOR THE CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.
YOU ANSWER IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
YES, IT'S BY THE SALES TAX AND HOW COUNTY COUNCIL HAS VOTED ON THE, THE I.
LISTEN, IT'S VERY HARD TO HEAR YOU ONLINE.
THE 80 MILLION IS FOR THE BRIDGE TO GO ALONG WITH THE MONEY FROM THE SIB.
LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION ON THE NEXT PAGE.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED CLARIFICATION.
I JUST WANT THE 80 MILLION IS FOR THE BRIDGE.
IT IS NOT FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD TO MAKE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS.
WELL, IT WAS INITIALLY FOR THE COURT OR IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND I BELIEVE I WAS THE ONLY COUNSEL PERSON TO VOTE NO TO GO TOWARD THE BRIDGE.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CONFIRM THIS.
NO, THE, THE NAME OF THE PROJECT HERE IS FROM THE BALLOT QUESTION.
THAT IS HOW IT WAS STATED ON THE BALLOT QUESTION IN 2018.
IF YOU READ THE DESCRIPTION, IT WAS FOR THE BRIDGE REPLACEMENT FROM THE BLUFFTON SIDE, WHERE YOU GO FROM, WHERE YOU GO FROM THREE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
THE SIX LANE SECTION BASICALLY TO THE THREE LANE SECTION ON THE HILTON HEAD SIDE SIX LANE SECTION NEAR SQUIRE POPE ROAD.
THAT WAS THE PROJECT FOR THE SALES TAX.
IT COVERS THE BRIDGE, MS. BRAGG FOR THE 2018.
JUST LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.
SO JUST FOR CLARITY, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, TUG OF WAR ON THIS.
IF IT WAS STRICTLY FOR THE BRIDGE, WHY WAS IT PROPOSED IN THE REFERENDUM? 80 MILLION FOR THE 2 78 CORRIDOR? WHAT
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WAS THE IDEA OF JUST SAYING HILTON HEAD CAN HAVE 80 MILLION FOR THE CORRIDOR, WHEN IN FACT YOU'RE SAYING NOW THAT WAS STRICTLY FOR THE BRIDGE.YOU NEED TO READ THE REFERENDUM IN ITS ENTIRETY WITH THE DESCRIPTION FOR THAT.
AND IT IS PUBLISHED ON THE PENNY WEBSITE.
SO THE DESCRIPTION ON THE WEBSITE WITH THAT BALLOT QUESTION WAS AS DATED.
IT WAS FROM THE SIX LANE SECTION ON THE BLUFFTON SIDE TO THE SIX LANE SECTION ON THE HILTON HEAD SIDE, BASICALLY DOING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE FOUR LANE SECTION WITH THE BRIDGE AS THE SALES TAX PROJECT.
IT DID NOT INCLUDE CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS PHYSICALLY ON THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD FOR WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY.
JUST GO ONE STEP FURTHER THEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, WHY DOES IT SAY THE CORRIDOR THEN ON, ON A, ON WHY? WHAT'S THE CARVE OUT FOR 80 MILLION THEN? WHAT, WHAT'S THE IDEA OF THE 80 MILLION? UM, IT'S JUST ODD THAT, THAT IT'S, IT'S STATED THAT WAY.
AGAIN, THIS IS, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION.
I THINK THERE WAS ONE VOTE BY THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE THE 80 MILLION AND MOVE IT TO THE BRIDGE WHEN THIS WHOLE THING GOT NO, NO, NO.
DID YOU GO TO THE PAINTING WEBSITE? YEAH.
CALL UP THE ACTUAL REFERENDUM.
IT SAYS HILTON HEAD ISLAND 2 78 CORRIDOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, REPAIR AND OR REPLACE EXISTING SPANS OF THE BRIDGES TO HILTON HEAD AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN MOSS CREEK AND SQUIRE POPE.
IT DOES NOT SAY 80 MILLION GOES TO THE TOWN FOR IMPROVEMENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, BUT I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A MISCONCEPTION WITH PEOPLE THAT WE BASICALLY TOOK THE 80 MILLION TO PUT IT FOR THE BRIDGE.
THE 80 MILLION IS STILL THERE AND IT'S FOR THE BRIDGE, WHICH IT ALREADY HAS BEEN, BUT IT IS STILL THERE.
GO THE REFERENDUM, THE 2018 REFERENDUM AND THE RESOURCES.
AND THEN SCROLL DOWN THE BALLOT QUESTION IS THAT ONE RIGHT THERE? MM-HMM
SO THE NAME OF THE PROJECT IS TRULY FROM THE BALLOT.
WELL, LISTEN, I I APPRECIATE THIS GOING THROUGH THIS BECAUSE THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF CONFUSION FROM THE COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, HILTON HAD COUNSEL AS TO HOW CAN THIS COUNTY COUNCIL TAKE AWAY 80 MILLION FROM THEIR IMPROVEMENTS.
SO I, I THINK THIS RIGHT HERE CLEARED IT UP TAB.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE CONTINUED TO SAY WHEN PEOPLE ASK ABOUT IT.
WE DID NOT STEAL $80 MILLION FROM HILTON HEAD.
IT WAS ALWAYS INTENDED TO GO TO THE BRIDGE.
THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS SIGNED IN JULY OF 2025 SPELLS IT OUT AGAIN.
AND AGAIN, UH, LET'S MS. BROCK PLEASE NOTE THIS TIME ON THIS, UM, TAPE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR GOOD COLLEAGUES ON TOWN COUNCIL HAVE THIS ABILITY TO COME BACK TO THIS DISCUSSION THAT CLEARS IT ALL UP.
AND I, I THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.
I APPRECIATE AND ALICE, IF I CAN JUST YES, SIR.
JUST ADD THAT $80 MILLION AT THAT TIME WAS TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
SO UNTIL WE HAD COVID AND WE HAD ALL THE DELAYS THAT RAISED THE PRICE FROM THE 240 TO THE 520 MILLION, AGAIN, THAT 80 MILLION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TO COVER REPLACEMENT OF, OF ALL THE BRIDGES AND DO THE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS AND EV EVERYTHING ELSE GOOD WITH THE ONE 20 FROM THE SIB WITH THE ONES YES, EXACTLY.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE TO PRESENT ABOUT THIS? OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALRIGHT.
WE JUST THINK PEOPLE NEED TO GO TO THE WEBSITE 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT TIME UPDATING IT REGULARLY AND ALL THIS INFORMATION IS THERE TO CLEAR UP ANY RUMORS OR INNUENDOS.
[9.a. Approval of a contract to Campbell Oil Company for aviation fuel & service provider at Beaufort Executive Airport (ARW). (FISCAL IMPACT: The contract operates on a market-priced fuel model with no upfront capital costs to the County. Revenue is generated through fuel flowage fees and other airport charges assessed on fuel sales. This arrangement ensures professional fuel service operations while generating recurring revenue for airport operations.) - Jon Rembold; Airports Director - 3 minutes ]
NOW WE'RE ON NINE A APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT TO CAMPBELL OIL COMPANY FOR AVIATION FUEL AND SERVICE PROVIDER AT THE BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT FISCAL.SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UM, COUNCILMAN LAWSON AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN.
ALL OF YOURS ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THEY ARE ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SIGN OF HANDS.
[9.b. A Resolution to Approve Avis Budget Group, Inc. Rental Car Concession Agreement for Hilton Head Island Airport (HXD) (FISCAL IMPACT: The agreement generates revenue for Hilton Head Island Airport with no County capital costs. Revenue sources include: Concession Fees: The greater of 10% of Gross Receipts or a Minimum Annual Guarantee (MAG) equal to 80% of the prior year’s concession fee or MAG. Terminal Space Rent: 126 sq. ft. at $64.65/sq. ft., producing $8,145.90 annually. Ready/Return Parking Rent: 38 spaces at $16/month, generating $7,296 annually, with CPI adjustments beginning in Year 2. Customer Facility Charges: $6.00 per transaction day to support airport capital improvements. The agreement provides stable, recurring revenue with growth potential tied to rental car activity and CPI adjustments.) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director, 3 minutes ]
B IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE AVIS BUDGET GROUP RENTAL CAR CONCESSION AGREEMENT FOR HILTON HEAD AIRPORT.THIS AGREEMENT GENERATES REVENUE FOR HILTON HEAD AIRPORT WITH NO COUNTY CAPITAL COSTS.
REVENUE SOURCES INCLUDE CONCESSION FEES.
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UH, THE GREATER OF 10% OF GROSS RECEIPTS OR MINIMUM ANNUAL ANNUAL GUARANTEE EQUAL TO 80% OF THE PRIOR YEAR'S CONCESSION FEE OR, UM, MINIMUM ANNUAL GUARANTEES, UH, INCLUDES THE RENT, WHICH IS ANNUALLY PRO UH, PRODUCING $8,145 AND 90 CENTS, 38 SPACES.AND I HOPE EVERYONE HAS READ THIS SO MUCH PER TRANSACTION.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, COUNT BY VICE CHAIR TABER AND A SECOND BY JOE.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? I WILL, I WILL ADD TO THIS THAT THE FOLLOWING TWO ARE RENTAL CAR AGREEMENTS.
THEY'RE THE SAME, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT ENTITY.
SO I HAD TO PUT ALL THREE SEPARATELY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION.
[9.c. A Resolution to Approve Enterprise Holdings Rental Car Concession Agreement for Hilton Head Island Airport (HXD) (FISCAL IMPACT: The agreement generates revenue for Hilton Head Island Airport with no County capital costs. Revenue sources include: Concession Fees: The greater of 10% of Gross Receipts or a Minimum Annual Guarantee (MAG) equal to 80% of the prior year’s concession fee or MAG. Terminal Space Rent: 126 sq. ft. at $64.65/sq. ft., producing $8,145.90 annually. Ready/Return Parking Rent: 40 spaces at $16/month, generating $7,680.00 annually, with CPI adjustments beginning in Year 2. Customer Facility Charges: $6.00 per transaction day to support airport capital improvements. The agreement provides stable, recurring revenue with growth potential tied to rental car activity and CPI adjustments.) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director, 3 minutes]
IS THE SAME THING EXCEPT IT IS ENTERPRISE HOLDING RENTAL COMPANY CONCESSION AGREEMENT.WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN I SECOND PASSMAN AND ONE BY COUNCILMAN LAWSON.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.
ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGNIFY BY HOLDING HANDS.
[9.d. A Resolution to Approve GSP Transportation, Inc. Rental Car Concession Agreement for Hilton Head Island Airport (HXD) (FISCAL IMPACT: The agreement generates revenue for Hilton Head Island Airport with no County capital costs. Revenue sources include: Concession Fees: The greater of 10% of Gross Receipts or a Minimum Annual Guarantee (MAG) equal to 80% of the prior year’s concession fee or MAG. Terminal Space Rent: 126 sq. ft. at $64.65/sq. ft., producing $8,145.90 annually. Ready/Return Parking Rent: 34 spaces at $16/month, generating $6,528.00 annually, with CPI adjustments beginning in Year 2. Customer Facility Charges: $6.00 per transaction day to support airport capital improvements. The agreement provides stable, recurring revenue with growth potential tied to rental car activity and CPI adjustments.) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director, 3 minutes ]
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE JSP TRANSPORTATION RENTAL CONCESSION.I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TABER, A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN.
UH, ANY DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SIGN OF HANDS.
[9.e. Approval of a contract with On Point Commercial Services for Janitorial Services at Beaufort Executive Airport (ARW) ($222,300) (FISCAL IMPACT: Funding for the janitorial services contract is included in the Airports Department operating budget. The contract amount is $44,460 annually, with a not-to-exceed total of $222,300 over the full potential five-year term of the agreement, including all renewal options. Contract renewals and future funding remain subject to annual budget appropriations by County Council. Estimated Annual Cost: $44,460.00 Funding Source: GL Code 5100-90-0000-51170 (Non-Professional Services) Fiscal Year 2027 Proposed Budget: $40,000 (The county's budget submittal deadline preceded the bid opening, so there is a minor shortfall. That will be remedied with a budget transfer in FY 2027) The initial term of the contract is one (1) year, commencing July 1, 2026, and expiring June 30, 2027, with the option to renew for four (4) additional one year terms upon mutual agreement of the parties.) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director - 3 minutes ]
NEXT ONE IS APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT.THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON POINT COMMERCIAL SERVICES FOR JANITORIAL SERVICES AT BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT FOR $222,000 300.
UM, THIS IS INCLUDED IN THEIR OPERATING BUDGET AND THE AMOUNT IS 44,460 ANNUAL NOT TO EXCEED THAT AMOUNT OF 222,300.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION MOVED? I'LL SECOND IT.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? THIS HAS AN OPTION YEAR TO RENEW FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL YEARS.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THIS.
DOES THIS HAVE TO GO TO FULL COUNSEL? 'CAUSE IT'S OVER.
ALL IN FAVOR TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
[9.f. Approval of a contract with Talbert, Bright & Ellington (TBE) for Architectural and Engineering Consulting Services for Beaufort County Airports (HXD & ARW). (FISCAL IMPACT: The RFQ establishes a framework for procuring professional airport consulting services for up to five years, but no immediate expenditure is authorized. Actual fiscal impact will be determined through subsequent project-specific negotiations, funding availability from FAA/SCAC grants, and County budget approvals. The RFQ contains no dollar amounts, cost estimates, or project budgets, and therefore does not commit the County to any financial obligation until after consultant selection and contract negotiation.) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director - 3 minutes ]
APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT WITH TALBERT BRIGHT AND ELLINGTON FOR ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING CONSULTING SERVICES FOR THE BEAUFORT COUNTY AIRPORTS.THE RFQ ESTABLISHES A FRAMEWORK FOR PROCURING PROFESSIONAL AIRPORT CONSULTING SERVICES FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS, BUT NO IMMEDIATE EXPENDITURES AUTHORIZED.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN INVESTMENT AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LARSON.
ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? ALL BY SIGN OF HANDS TO APPROVE THIS RFQ AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS.
[9.g. A Resolution to accept South Carolina Aeronautics Commission (SCAC) Grant 26-020 in the amount of $88,538.00 for Hilton Head Island Airport (HXD) Development Projects (FISCAL IMPACT: The SCAC Airport Development Projects grant in the amount of $88,538.00 will be allocated to perform various Airport Development Projects (Construction) aligned with the Airport Layout Plan and SCAC-approved specifications. These projects include: Terminal Fire Alarm System repair, Radar Site Survey, Parking Lot Gate infrastructure improvements, Terminal Apron tree removal, Off-airport tree obstruction removal and mitigation, and Terminal entrance landscaping. No local (Sponsor) or federal funds are required.) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director, 3 minutes ]
RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE SOUTH CAROLINA AERONAUTICS COMMISSION SCAT GRANT 26 0 2 0 IN THE AMOUNT OF $88,538 FOR THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.MOVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN LAWSON? ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? THERE ARE NO LOCAL OR FEDERAL FUNDS REQUIRED.
[9.h. Approval of a contract with Edison Foard for Transient Hangar Design Build at Beaufort Executive Airport (ARW) ($1,250,000) (FISCAL IMPACT: Funding for Preconstruction Services for the Transient Aircraft Hangar project at Beaufort Executive Airport is included in the Airport Capital Improvement Program and will be funded through Airport capital funds and/or eligible grant funding. The proposed agreement provides for a not-to-exceed fee of $150,000 for programming, design development, cost estimating, scheduling, constructibility reviews, permitting coordination, and value engineering services. Future construction costs will be determined during the pre-construction phase and presented to Council for approval before construction commences. Funding Source: GL 5102-90-0000-57130 — Grant Expenditures for 70% of the entire project. Balance: $800,003.78. GL 5100-90-0000-54100 — Site Improvement for 30% of the entire project. Balance: $996,665.05 (ARPA)) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director, 3 minutes]
AN H APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT WITH EDISON.THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE EDISON FORD OR EDISON EDISON FORD.
FOR TRANSIT HANGAR DESIGN BILL AT BUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT FOR THE AMOUNT OF $1 MILLION, $250,000 OF FUNDING FOR PRE-CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE TRANSIENT AIRCRAFT HANGAR PROJECT AT THE BEAUFORT EXECUTIVE AIRPORT IS INCLUDED IN THE AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH AIRPORT CAPITAL FUNDS AND OR ELIGIBLE GRANT FUNDING.
I SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER.
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASSIT.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD TO FULL COUNSEL.
[9.i. A Second Modification of the Signal Maintenance Agreement Update Between Beaufort County and SCDOT (FISCAL IMPACT: The new modification to the 2024 SMA allows for reimbursement from SCDOT to Beaufort County in an amount not to exceed $206,550 annually.) - Bryan Bauer, PE - Director of Engineering (5 min) ]
WE ARE ON I A SECOND MODIFICATION OF A SIGNAL MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT UPDATE BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND SOUTH CAROLINA DOT.THE NEW MODIFICATION TO THE 2 24 SMA ALLOWS FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM SOUTH CAROLINA DOT TO BEAUFORT COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF 200 NOT TO EXCEED $206,550.
OKAY, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION SECOND.
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OR QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN REER? ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS, COUNCILMAN RE OKAY.UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, I MEAN ITEM J IS
[9.j. An Ordinance Authorizing the Abandonment of County Maintenance of a Portion of Gibson Drive Following Petition by Adjacent Property Owners and Reclassifying Said Portion as a Private Road (FISCAL IMPACT: N/A) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering (5 Minutes) ]
AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ABANDONMENT OF THE COUNTY MAINTENANCE ON PORTION OF GIBSON DRIVE.FOLLOWING PETITION BY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND RECLASSIFYING THE SAID PROPERTY AS A PRIVATE ROAD.
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
WHOSE DISTRICT IS THIS IN? THIS IS ON HILTON HEAD.
ALL I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT IT.
SO THIS, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS YOU GO MR. GLOVER? YEAH.
NO DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR OF ABANDONMENT OF THIS ROAD.
COUNCILMAN REE? THIS IS ON HILTON HEAD.
YOU OKAY? YOU GOOD WITH THAT? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT IS A PORTION OF THE ROAD.
AND IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY I'S GOT A QUESTION.
COUNCILMAN RE YOU GOT A QUESTION? JUST, UM, COMMENT, BRIAN, WHAT'S THE PORTION OF IT AND, AND WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? SO IT'S ABOUT 300 FOOT OF IT.
SO IT TEES OFF OF ANOTHER, UH, UP OF ANOTHER ROAD.
AND WHEN WE ARE, IT'S ON OUR CURRENT DIRT ROAD PAVING CONTRACT.
WHEN OUR SURVEYORS WERE OUT THERE TO SURVEY THE ROAD TO START DESIGN, ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS APPROACHED 'EM AND, UM, IT GOT BACK TO STAFF.
STAFF TALKED TO THE, UH, HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE.
THEY DID NOT WANT THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD PAVE, SO THEY AGREED TO ABANDON, UM, TAKE THE RIGHT OF WAY, TAKE IT BACK, MAKE IT PRIVATE BECAUSE THEY WANTED IT TO REMAIN A DIRT ROAD AND NOT BE PAVED.
AND SO THEY FILLED OUT THE PORT, UH, THEY FILLED OUT THE PETITION AND IT'S SIX DIFFERENT PARCELS.
AGAIN, UM, WHO DID WE COMMUNICATE WITH ON TOWN COUNCIL OR STAFF? THAT'S ALL BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
UH, THIS WAS JUST WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, THEY HAVE ALL SIX OF THEM SIGNED THE PETITION TO GIVE THE RIGHT OF OR TO TAKE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
[9.k. A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Smyrna Concrete LLC and Beaufort County to donate concrete for improvements on Westbury Court in Bluffton. (FISCAL IMPACT: There is no fiscal impact for the donated concrete. The contractor labor cost to construct and place the concrete is $24,237.00 to be requested at a later date.) - Bryan Bauer, PE, Director of Engineering (5 minutes) ]
IS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WAS SMYRNA CONCRETE LLC IN BEAUFORT COUNTY TO DONATE CONCRETE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS ON WESTBURY COURT IN BLUFFTON, THERE'S NO, UH, PHYSICAL IMPACT FOR THE DONATED CONCRETE, THE CONTRACTOR LABOR COSTS TO CONSTRUCT AND PLACE.THE CONCRETE IS $24,237 TO BE REQUESTED AT A LATER DATE.
WHAT, 24,000, 2030 $7 TO BE REQUESTED AT A LATER DATE? WHAT'S THAT ABOUT? SO, UM, THIS IS A LITTLE, LITTLE LESS THAN 200 FOOT SECTION ROAD OFF SHERIDAN PARK CIRCLE SERVES A CONCRETE PLANT AND ANOTHER COUPLE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
UM, IT'S THE MAIN ACCESS FOR THE COMMERCIAL PLANT OR THE CONCRETE PLANT.
SO THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, CREATED A LOT OF DISTRESS ON THE ROAD.
THEY ARE GONNA PROVIDE THE CONCRETE TO, UH, TAKE IT FROM ASPHALT ROAD TO A CONCRETE ROAD, WHICH WILL STAND UP FURTHER OR BETTER REQUIRE LESS MAINTENANCE.
AND THE COUNTY WILL PAVE TO HAVE IT ACTUALLY INSTALLED, UH, WHICH IS THE 24,000 WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CTC.
I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THEY'RE NOT PAYING TO HAVE IT INSTALLED.
I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROVIDING 20 TO $30,000 CONCRETE.
I MEAN, I GOT, AND I KNOW THIS PROPERTY, I'VE SEEN IT, BUT IT IS A COUNTY ROAD.
BUT, UM, OTHERWISE WE'D BE ON THE HOOK FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE, UM, 20, $30,000 OF CONCRETE.
SO IT'S COMING FROM CTC FUNDS? YES, MA'AM.
COULD LAST LONGER BEING A CONCRETE AS OPPOSED TO THE MAINTENANCE FOR A, AND, AND WE HAD A SIMILAR ARRANGEMENT A COUPLE YEARS AGO ON BENTON FIELD ROAD, UM, WHICH IS IN BLUFFTON ALSO WHERE THEY REPLACED THE SECTION IN FRONT OF THE, UM, CONCRETE PLANT WITH CONCRETE.
WELL WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT, THAT IS UNANIMOUS.
[9.l. Approval of an Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Palmetto Bluff Preservation Trust, Inc for Funding of a Traffic Signal at SC 46 and Old Palmetto Bluff Road (FISCAL IMPACT: Palmetto Bluff Preservation Trust, Inc will contribute $400,000 towards the construction of the traffic signal at SC 46 and Old Palmetto Bluff Road. No County fiscal impact at this time, but County will be responsible for design of the signal ($72,252) and any construction over runs.) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering - 5 min ]
IS APPROVAL OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH PALMETTO BLUFF PRESERVATION TRUST FOR THE FUNDING OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT SOUTH AT SC 46 AND OLD PALMETTO BLUFF ROAD.UM, THEY WILL CONTRIBUTE $400,000 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT SC 46 AND OLD PALMETTO BLUFF ROAD.
NO COUNTY PHYSICAL IMPACT AT THIS TIME, BUT COUNTY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DESIGN OF THE SIGNAL, WHICH WILL COST $72,252.
AND ANY CONSTRUCTION OVERRUNS.
A MOTION I SECOND BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LAWSON.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? WHY WOULD THERE BE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR CONSTRUCTION OVERRUNS IF WE'RE CONTROLLING IT? UM, I MEAN THE BIGGEST THING IS UTILITIES.
IF THERE'S A UTILITY OUT THERE THAT IS, UH, WE'RE NOT AWARE OF OR THAT WE HAVE TO SHIFT A POLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST THING.
BUT I WOULD NOT EXPECT CONSTRUCTION OVERRUNS
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400,000, UM, SHOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO CONSTRUCT THIS SIGNAL.I WOULD, YOU KNOW, EXPECT IN THE 200, TWO $50,000 RANGE FOR A, UM, STRAIN POLE SIGNAL.
SO 400,000 SHOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WORDING THAT'S IN THE UH, OH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A SIGNAL ARM, IT'S JUST ON THE STREET.
EVENTUALLY IT MAY BE A MASS STORM LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, BUT FOR NOW, UM, IT'S A STRAIN POLE.
THIS IS VERY BADLY NEEDED, I THINK.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE STUDY WE DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO AS ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT NEEDED AN IMPROVEMENT.
UH, WE WERE COORDINATING WITH THE DOT TO GET IT APPROVED AND THEN WE FOUND OUT, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS COORDINATING ALSO.
AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS CAME ABOUT.
UM, DOES THIS, THIS HAS TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL 'CAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OR NOT? I MEAN I'M, YES.
IT, YEAH, IT SAYS 400 TIMES THEY'RE PAYING IT.
I WOULD BELIEVE IT'S MOU SO I WOULD BELIEVE THAT WOULD'VE TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL.
I THINK IT HAS TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL.
AND SIGN, UM, ONCE THE NEW FISCAL STARTS, THIS WILL COME OUT.
SO WE ARE READY TO GO WITH DESIGN, SO MM-HMM
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET IT DESIGNED PRETTY QUICKLY AND OUT TO CONSTRUCTION.
UM, POTENTIALLY END OF THE YEAR, BUT HOPEFULLY, UH, FIRST QUARTER NEXT YEAR.
UM, AT THE LATEST, THESE ARE COMING OUTTA BLUFF AND IMPACT FEES SOUTH ABROAD IMPACT FEES? YES MA'AM.
I MEAN, WE GOT A LOT OF STUFF COMING OUTTA SOUTH OF THE BROAD IMPACT FEES, INCLUDING A LIBRARIAN WAITING.
WELL THIS IS COME OUTTA THE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE STUFF, I MEAN THEY'RE FENCED.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS ONTO FULL COUNSEL.
OLD POMO BLUFF ROAD IS A PRIVATE ROAD, HOWEVER CORRECT.
CAN BE HAVE, GO BACK AND LOOK.
I BELIEVE ONE OF THEM IS COUNTY AND ONE OF 'EM IS PRIVATE PALM BL ROAD, WHICH IS THE SMALLER ONE.
IS THE COUNT IS STATE ROAD ACTUALLY, YES.
SO, UM, THIS WOULD EVENTUALLY, ONCE IT GETS CONSTRUCTED, GO BACK TO THE DOT FOR OWNERSHIP AND THEN IT WOULD BE PUT ON RSMA FOR MAINTENANCE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD TO FULL COUNSEL, UH, BY SIGNAL OF HANDS.
AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS A CHANGE.
UH, ARE YOU GONNA DO THE NEXT ONE OR? OH, BRADLEY'S GONNA DO IT.
[9.m. A change order to Republic Waste Hauling Services contract for hauling services from County convenience centers ($400,000) (FISCAL IMPACT: The original PO amount was $1,830,000.00. The change order is valued at $400,000 and will be paid from the Disposal/Recycling account #1000-30-1340-5166, which has a current fund balance of $1,361,056.00.) - Jared Fralix, Assistant County Administrator (5 min) ]
MA CHANGE ORDER TO REPUBLIC WASTE HAULING SERVICES CONTRACT FOR HAULING SERVICES FROM THE COUNTY CONVENIENCE CENTERS.THE ORIGINAL PO ORDER WAS $1,830,000.
THE CHANGE ORDER IS VALUED AT 400,000 AND WILL BE PAID FROM THE DISPOSAL SLASH RECYCLING ACCOUNT, WHICH HAS A CURRENT FUND BALANCE OF $1,000,361 AND $361,056.
I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, COUNCILMAN GLOVER SECOND.
DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR MR. HARRIET? UH, NO, THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF GET US THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR.
THIS IS TYPICAL FOR OUR WASTE HAULING AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR.
UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO, YOU KNOW, FORECAST THOSE BUDGETS IN AND WE DON'T WANNA COME BACK, YOU KNOW, 20 DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO ASK FOR 20 DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, CHANGE ORDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE TRY TO JUST HOLD IT TILL THE END OF THE YEAR TO KIND OF MAKE ONE, TO KIND OF GET US OVER THE FINISH LINE.
UM, AT, AT THE END OF THE YEAR FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, WASTE HAULING.
UM, WE DO HAVE A FEW THINGS IN THE WORKS THAT WE'RE, UM, HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO FORECAST A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UM, WE'VE GOT A TRACKING SYSTEM THAT REPUBLIC WASTE WILL BE USING, UM, TO ACTUALLY TRACK OUR LOADS A LITTLE BETTER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HAULING FULL LOADS.
UM, THEY'LL, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVING US FULL ACCESS TO THIS SOFTWARE AND PROGRAM, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SEE EVERY CONTAINER THAT LEAVES THE CONVENIENCE CENTER EVERY TIME TO KNOW THAT IT MAKES SURE THAT IT IS FULL AND WE'RE NOT HAULING A HALF LOAD AND GETTING CHARGED FOR THAT HALF LOAD.
UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE GONNA PUT OUT HOPEFULLY THIS YEAR, UM, NEW FISCAL YEAR AS A, UM, RFP.
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMPACTING COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT ACTUALLY COMPACT THE OPEN TOP CONTAINERS AT ALL OF OUR, UM, OPEN ALL OF OUR OPEN TOP CONTAINERS AT OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
THIS WILL HELP ALSO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF HALLS AS WELL TOO.
AND THAT COM THOSE COMPANIES ACTUALLY ARE OUT THERE.
THEY HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF TRACKING SOFTWARE, SO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE VIDEO AND THEY, YOU CAN SEE THAT ACTUALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO THAT'LL REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF HALLS THAT WE ARE AND ALSO WASTE RECYCLING OBVIOUSLY, UM, RECYCLING AND FOOD WASTE THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S GONNA HELP REDUCE SOME OF THESE COSTS OVER THE YEARS TO COME AS WELL TOO.
AND I WILL SAY MS. ABS IS GONNA NEED TO GO TO NEXT COUNTY COUNCIL SO WE CAN PAY OUR BILLS.
ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGNIFY BY SIGN OF HANDS, COUNCILMAN AND THAT COUNCILMAN.
[9.n. A change order to Waste Management Hickory Hill for disposal of waste from County Convenience Centers ($150,000) (FISCAL IMPACT: The original PO amount was $3,828,808.00. The change order is valued at $150,000 and will be paid from the Disposal/Recycling account #1000-30 1340-5166, which has a current fund balance of $1,361,056.00.) - Jared Fralix, Assistant County Administrator (5 min) ]
A CHANGE ORDER TO WASTE MANAGEMENT HICKORY HILL FOR DISPOSAL OF WASTE FROM THE COUNTY CONVENIENCE CENTERS.THE ORIGINAL PURCHASE ORDER WAS 3,828,000.
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ORDER IS VALUED AT 150,000 AND WILL BE PAID FROM THE DISPOSAL RECYCLING ACCOUNT, WHICH HAS A CURRENT FUND BALANCE OF $1,361,056.ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR MR. HARRIET? ALL? ANY COMMENT? SAME THING.
THIS IS KIND OF DITTO TO THE LAST ONE.
SO, ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND IN FAVOR OF THAT ONE.
[9.o. A Resolution To Establish Beaufort County's Community Development Priority List (FISCAL IMPACT: N/A) - Audra Antonacci - Ogden, Assistant County Administrator ]
WE'RE DOWN TO, OH, A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH BEAUFORT COUNTY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PRIORITY LIST.HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASS.
THIS IS OUR RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH BEAVERT COUNTY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PRIORITY LISTS, WHICH WE DO EVERY YEAR.
AND THIS IS A PREREQUISITE FOR ANY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LIST? IS THE LIST THE SAME AS LAST YEAR? PRETTY MUCH.
SO JARED HELPS COMPILE THIS LIST OUR PRIORITIES.
AND HE DID REMOVE THE LAST YEAR THERE WAS HVAC IMPROVEMENTS AND HE DID REMOVE THAT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YES IT IS THE SAME.
THAT THE SAME? WHAT DO YOU THINK OUR CHANCES ARE? OH, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE.
ALL IN FAVOR? AND THOSE ONLINE.
[9.p. A Resolution Authorizing a new Stormwater Management Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) with the Town of Bluffton (FISCAL IMPACT: No fiscal impact is associated with this MOU.) - Taylor Brewer, Stormwater Manager (5 min) ]
ONE IS, UM, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A NEW STORMWATER MANAGEMENT INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.THERE'S NO PHYSICAL IMPACT AND MS. BREWER IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE MOVE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BREWER? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION PASSING ON ONLINE.
[9.q. A Resolution Authorizing a new Stormwater Management Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) with the Town of Hilton Head Island (FISCAL IMPACT: There is no fiscal impact associated with this IGA.) - Taylor Brewer, Stormwater Manager (5 min)]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A NEW STORMWATER INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND.UM, SO ON MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LAWSON.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
SO WHAT WE HEARD BEFORE WITH THE CONSULTANT, THERE MAY BE CHANGES TO THIS NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THIS SAYS THE INITIAL TERM OF THIS AGREEMENT IS 20 YEARS.
I DO BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE TO REVISIT THIS WITH THE RESTRUCTURE NEXT YEAR.
ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGNIFY, BY RAISING YOUR HAND IN FAVOR OF THIS.
SEEING NO OTHER BUSINESS FOR THIS MEETING, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
AND THE NEXT ONE WILL START AT FOUR 30.