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THIS IS A CALL TO ORDER FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 3RD, 2026 AT 6:00 PM CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CAMERON CHO.
COMMISSIONER DEBBIE WONDER HERE.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL SUTCLIFFE HERE.
[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]
THE, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER 9:30 PM UNLESS OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE.NINE 30 MAY BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR AN ADDITIONAL MEETING DATE AS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.
[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED.ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH.
THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ADOPTED.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO NOT.
[VII. 1. Certificate of Appropriateness (95 Green Street): A request by Glenda Mikulak Roberts, Applicant and Owner, for review of a Certificate of Appropriateness-HD to construct a new 1.5-story house of approximately 2,342 SF at 95 Green Street in OId Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood General-HD. (COFA-08-24-019275) (Staff-Charlotte Moore)]
ON TO NEW BUSINESS, A CERTIFICATE OR APPROPRIATENESS FOR 95 GREEN STREET.A REQUEST BY GLENDA MC ROBERTS, APPLICANT AND OWNER FOR REVIEW OF A COA HD TO CONSTRUCT A NEW ONE AND A HALF STORY HOUSE OF APPROXIMATELY 2,342 SQUARE FEET AT 95 GREEN STREET IN OLD TOWN, FLUFFING, HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HD RIGHT.
HERE IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS YOU NOTICE, IT IS A DOUBLE FRONTAGE LOT.
ON THE NORTH SIDE IS HICKORY TRACE, SOUTH SIDE IS GREEN STREET.
UH, THIS IS THE 3D VIEW OF THE HOUSE.
SO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WILL FACE GREEN STREET.
AND, UH, I DO WANT TO SHOW PHOTOS OF WHAT GREEN STREET LOOKS LIKE.
THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT REALLY LOOKS ALMOST LIKE A DRIVEWAY OR A PATH.
UM, THAT'S A VIEW LOOKING TOWARDS BOUNDARY STREET.
THIS WILL BE THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THIS WILL BE THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS ON THE RIGHT HERE IS THE SITE PLAN.
AGAIN, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WILL FACE ONTO GREEN STREET, THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, UH, WHERE THERE WILL BE A POOL, UH, WILL, UH, A BUT HICKORY TRAYS.
AND HERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
CURRENTLY THERE IS AN EXISTING CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILT APPROXIMATELY IN 2014.
UH, THE APPLICANT OWNER WAS GIVEN THE PERMISSION TO BUILD THAT, UM, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE HOUSE WOULD BE BUILT WITHIN TWO YEARS, UH, WITHIN TWO YEARS.
UM, BUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A VERY LARGE OAK TREE THERE IN THE CENTER THAT WILL BE PRESERVED.
THE HOUSE WILL BE LOCATED APPROXIMATELY WHERE YOU SEE THE CARS AND THE BOATS RIGHT IN THIS AREA.
I JUST WANNA SHOW THE, UM, THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND THE EXISTING CARRIAGE HOUSE.
THE, UH, MAIN STRUCTURE, OF COURSE, WILL BE TALLER HERE IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
UH, THE BUILDING IS, UH, HAS VERNACULAR CHARACTERISTICS BUT IS BEING REVIEWED AS AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE, UH, BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINT IS A BIT LARGER AND THERE IS SOME CONCERN REGARDING THE MASSING OF THE CENTER BLOCK OF THE HOUSE, UM, THAT YOU SEE THERE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
UM, THE HOUSE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED ON A, UH, CONCRETE FOUNDATION WITH TABBY UH, COATING.
THE FRONT PORCH WILL BE BUILT ON A PIERS BRICK PIERS, WE DON'T HAVE INFORMATION REGARDING THE BRICK JUST YET.
UH, BOARD AND BATTEN PARTY SIDING WITH STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF.
UH, THIS LEFT ELEVATION ALMOST SERVES REALLY KIND OF AS THE FRONT ENTRANCE.
THE FRONT AGAIN IS, UH, INTENDED TO LOOK LIKE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
ACTUALLY, THE STORE HERE WILL LEAD INTO A LAUNDRY ROOM, BUT IT DOES APPEAR TO BE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FROM GREEN STREET, THE LEFT ELEVATION.
LOOKING INTO THE, UH, INTERIOR OF THE YARD HERE IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION.
AND JUST TO POINT OUT A, A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE, AGAIN, THE BRICK HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED, UH, THAT WILL BE USED FOR THE PIERS.
UM, THE, UH, SCREENING OF THE METERS, UH, DOES HAVE A WOOD, UH, FENCE WITH THE GATE.
AND WE ARE, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT THAT GATE RE BE REMOVED.
THAT'S THE REQUEST OF THE UTILITY COMPANY, THE BOARD AND BAT AND SIDING THAT YOU SEE UNDER THE GABLES.
UM, THERE IS A SUGGESTION BY STAFF THAT THIS POTENTIALLY BE CHANGED TO, UH, A, UM, HORIZONTAL LAP SIDING TO MATCH THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
AND I DO HAVE THOSE ELEVATIONS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THEM.
HERE IS THE REAR ELEVATION FACING THE POOL.
UH, THE DOOR THAT'S PROPOSED IS FIBERGLASS, WHICH IS NOT A PERMITTED MATERIAL.
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WILL NEED TO BE CHANGED TO MATCH, UH, ONE OF THE MATERIALS PERMITTED BY THE UDO.THE CHIMNEY, UH, WILL BE TABBY SHELL AND IT DOES HAVE THAT VERY LARGE BISHOP'S CAP.
OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATIONISTS HAS BEEN REQUESTING THAT THESE, UH, CAPS BE CHANGED TO A DOUBLE BISHOP'S CAP.
THE SMALLER CAPS, UH, ARE SMALLER OR ARE AND ARE MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU SEE IN BLUFFTON IN OLD TOWN.
AND SO THERE'S, UH, THAT RECOMMENDATION AS WELL AND THAT THE SPARK ARRESTER BE HIDDEN.
THE FLOOR PLANS IF WE NEED TO SEE THEM.
IF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT SECTION.
THIS IS A ONE AND A HALF STORY HOUSE.
THE UPPER STORY WILL BE ALT REVIEW CRITERIA.
UM, IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UM, ITEMS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UH, IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
AND AGAIN, I'VE KIND OF REALLY BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHTED THOSE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE HERE.
UH, I DID REMOVE THAT BECAUSE THE WINDOWS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED.
THERE ARE NO FIXED WINDOWS ON THIS HOUSE.
UM, SO THERE ARE THE EIGHT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF.
AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD STAFF WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE MASSING, UH, APPEARS TO BE APPROPRIATE.
AND SO, UM, WITH THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE TO, UH, APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE APPLICATION.
AND AGAIN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
AND THE ONE DETERMINATION, WE'LL BE GLAD TO GO BACK THROUGH ANYTHING, UH, OR ANY SLIDES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO VIEW.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IS THIS THE TALLEST HOUSE WILL BE THE TALLEST HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I BELIEVE THAT THE CARD HOUSE, THE HOUSES THAT ARE FACING BOUNDARY ARE TWO STORIES.
BUT THE CARD HOUSE IS NOT ON GREEN STREET.
BUT IT'S, IT BACKS, LET ME GO BACK HERE.
LIKE THIS HOUSE IS LIKE PUSHED BACK.
LIKE YOU HAVE TO WANT TO GO TO THIS HOUSE TO SEE IT.
RIGHT? SO GREEN STREET, UM, YOU SEE GREEN STREET HERE, THE HOUSE, THESE LOTS.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A LARGER, UM, PHOTO OF THE AREA.
THE HOUSES THAT, BUT GREEN STREET ALSO HAVE FRONT FRONTAGE ON BOUNDARY.
SO BASICALLY THE HOUSES HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF GREEN ARE THE BACKYARDS.
THE HOUSE IS LOCATED ON BOUNDARY STREET BRIDGE, NOT BOUNDARY BRIDGE.
AND, AND FURTHER DOWN ON THE END IS A TWO STORY HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT A WHILE AGO.
AND THEN, UM, I RODE DOWN THERE ON UM, HICKORY TRACE.
THERE'S SOME VERY SIMILAR ONES LIKE THIS TOWARDS THE END.
AND THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL VEGETATION OUT THERE AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, GREEN STREET, THESE ARE THE BACKYARDS OF THE HOMES THAT FACE BRIDGE.
IS THERE, I NOTICED ON THE PLANS THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME DOTTED LINES AROUND IT OR WE TAKEN VERY SPECIAL CARE TO FENCE THAT OFF WITH, UM, MORE THAN JUST A SILT FENCE FOR THAT TREE DURING CONSTRUCTION.
AND CAN WE ASK, CAN WE MAKE THAT MOTION TO INCLUDE THAT'S NOT, YOU CAN, WE DON'T HAVE AN ARBORIST REPORT, UM, REGARDING TREE PROTECTION, BUT WE, WE CAN REQUIRE A TREE PROTECTION FENCE.
UM, AND I SAW IT ON THE PLANS THAT IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS SOMETHING AROUND IT.
THAT'S WHY I WONDERED ON THE, WHERE IT SHOWED THE, IT'S ONE OF YOUR FIRST ONES.
IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN BEFORE THAT.
HIS LANDSCAPE PLANS HAD AN ARROW TO PRE PROTECTION, BUT IT WASN'T ACTUALLY DRAWN IN THE ARROW.
I CAN FIND OUT WHERE YOU'RE TALKING THE SECOND.
DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING UP THE LANDSCAPE PLAN? NO, I, I'LL PULL IT UP IF I SEE IT ON MY PACKET.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS THE, UM, TYPE OF HOME
WHAT IS THE HOME STYLE? IS IT AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE OR IS IT A ACTUAL, WE'VE IDENTIFIED IT AS HAVING VERNACULAR CHARACTERISTICS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE FOOTPRINT AND THE POTENTIALLY THE MASSING, UM, BEING A LITTLE BIT TOO LARGE THAT WE CONSIDERED IT AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE BUT MORE FOCUSED ON THE VERNACULAR.
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JUST NICE TO HAVE THAT IN THE NARRATIVE SO WE CAN, AND THE, THE CHIMNEY CAP COMMENT THAT STAFF HAD, UH, IS IT THAT STAFF DOESN'T WANNA SEE THE SPARK RESTAURANT AT ALL? OR THAT THE CAP SHOULD BE ROTATED SO THAT FROM THE STREET YOU DON'T SEE IT THE WAY THE UDO READS IT'S THAT IT, IT NEEDS TO BE CONCEALED WITHIN THE MASONRY MM-HMMAND IF THAT'S NOT ACCURATE, UM, OKAY.
AS WE KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THE UDO THAT PROBABLY COULD BE REVISED.
UH, BUT UM, IT DOES INDICATE THAT, UH, ANY OF THE MECHANICAL PORTIONS, UH, NEED TO BE WITHIN THE MASONRY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OR A DRAWING OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WITH A HORIZONTAL SIDE AND SO WE CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE? JUST IN THE GABLE.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, I DIDN'T STATE THIS PREVIOUSLY, BUT YOU SEE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE DOES HAVE SHUTTERS.
AND SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ALSO IS TO, UH, CONSIDER PROVIDING SHUTTERS THERE.
LEMME GO TO THE FRONT ELEVATION.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, UH, A FAIRLY WIDE SPACE HERE BETWEEN THE DOOR AND THE WINDOWS.
AND THE SUGGESTION IS THAT, UM, CONSIDER SHUTTERS, UH, WHICH WOULD MATCH THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
IT WAS SLIDE 19 ON OUR PACKET AND IT SHOWS A VERY FUNNY RECTANGULAR, I JUST THINK THAT MADE ME THINK IT WAS GONNA BE FENCED.
UH, WHICH IT'S THE SLIDE BEFORE THE NARRATIVE.
UM, IN THE POWERPOINT IN YOUR PACKET YOU GAVE US.
IT'S IN THE, IT IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
IT'S THE, LET ME BRING UP THE LANDSCAPE, PLEASE.
I, I THINK IT'D JUST BE BETTER, IT'D BE SAFER FOR THE OWNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T GET DAMAGED.
I I LOVE THE TREES SAVED, BUT I JUST WOULD HATE TO SEE IT LANDSCAPE FOR THE SAME.
I THINK IT'S, THIS MAY HELP ME GO TO THE STATE PLAN.
YOU HAVE MORE TO THIS THAN OUR PACKET HAD.
AM I RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT WAS THE, IT WAS THE SLIDE RIGHT BEFORE THE NARRATIVE.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE TREE? SO WE DESIGNED THE HOUSE AROUND THAT TREE.
SEE, SO IS THAT CONSIDERED A FENCE THAT THEY'LL PUT AROUND THE TREE OR PROTECTIVE? DO YOU WANNA SPEAK INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YES.
I'M SAM LAVERDE, LOW TIDE DESIGNS.
UM, THAT IS A, LIKE A, UM, NOT A CROSS TIE FENCE, BUT A, UH, A YEAH, A WOODEN POST RAIL.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE PROPOSE TO PROTECT THAT BECAUSE A SILT FENCE, BASICALLY WE, WE DON'T FEEL THAT THEY REALLY DO THEIR JOB.
AND UM, SO TYPICALLY ON NICE TREES, WE'RE DOING A, UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO, THAT WAS MY, MY WORRY.
JUST MORE NOT THAT, THAT THE BUILDER, SOMEBODY WOULD DAMAGE IT.
AND I LOVE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE DISTANCE.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP A LOT, A LOT OF DISTANCE.
NO IMPACT ON THE, AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, I KNOW MICHAEL BROCK HAS TALKED TO AN ARBORIST ABOUT, ABOUT THE TREE.
I DON'T, I HAVE NOT SEEN A REPORT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GONNA GO ON WITH THAT.
BUT, UH, WE, EVERYBODY THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH HAS BEEN VERY COGNIZANT ABOUT THAT TREE.
THE MONSTER TREE SERVICE HAS TALKED TO MICHAEL BROCK.
THEY CAME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THAT.
SHE SAID THAT MICHAEL BROCK HAS TALKED TO MONSTER TREE COMPANY ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL I KNOW.
I HAVE, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE NOT SEEN A REPORT, BUT I COULD OKAY.
BUT THE PLAN INDICATES YES, SOME FENCING TO PROTECT IT DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, MRS. BERTI, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD ABOUT THE PROJECT, THIS GENERAL DISCUSSION OR PRESENTATION? UM, AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATION, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH, THIS IS OUR
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THIRD ROUND THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH WITH MODERATE CHANGES TO THE HOUSE TO BRING IT UP INTO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE UDO AND, UH, UH, OTHER COMMENTS.AND SO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, I MEAN, ONE, ONE COMMENT I HAVE IS IF WE LIKE ON THE SPARK ARRESTER, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOTTA GET POSITIVE AIRFLOW OUT OF THAT AND TO HIDE IT.
I, I HAVE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY CHIMNEY THAT, UM, UNLESS I PUT A, A CLAY THIMBLE ON IT.
BUT BASICALLY THE SPARK ARRESTERS ARE AL ALWAYS SHOWN BECAUSE THEY GET IN THE DRAFT.
I MEAN, EVEN, EVEN IF I GO TO PALMETTO BLUFF, THEY, THEY HAVE EXPOSED SPARK ARRESTERS.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT BEING BUILT ANYWHERE IN THIS LOCATION.
UM, THE OTHER ITEMS, UH, TYPICAL OF WHAT I WOULD CALL HOUSE CLEANING.
ANYBODY'D LIKE TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION.
I WAS OKAY, SAM, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU BACK UP.
SO IS IT A, UM, IS IT A METAL FLU OR IS IT A, A CLAY FLU? IT'S, IT IS A METAL FLU.
IT'S NOT AN ISOC CURRENT OR A MASONRY FIREPLACE.
SO BASICALLY WE HAVE THE TERMINAL CAP, YOU HAVE SPARK CORRECTER, UM, UM, CAN WE GO TO THE, CAN WE GO TO ELEVATIONS FOR AN ELEVATION LINE QUESTION? SO IT'D BE PRETTY HARD TO SPLIT THAT IN.
HA YOU COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF SYSTEM'S NOT REALLY SET UP TO SPLIT AND DO TWO SMALLER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GONNA DO THAT RIGHT OFF HAND SO I CAN TURN THE, SO I DON'T YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, SO THE, YOU GET TO THE TOP OF THE CHIMNEY AND THERE'S A METAL BOX WITH SCREENING ON IT THAT KEEPS CRITTERS OUT.
BUT ALSO IF ANY, IF YOU'RE BURNING WOOD, ANY SPARKS, IT CATCHES ANY SPARKS AND KEEPS THEM IN THE CHIMNEY.
AND I, I CAN, I CAN TURN THE CAP ROTATE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WAS SUGGESTING FOR IT ROTATED.
SO THE STREET, YOU CAN'T SEE IT.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER IDEA I HAVE IS THAT WE COULD, WE COULD TURN THE CAP SO IT'S FACING FROM THE, FROM GREEN STREET, YOU WOULD NOT SEE THE SPARK ARRESTOR.
AND WE COULD LOOK TO SEE ABOUT PUTTING SOME TYPE OF, I'M GONNA CALL IT A MESH SCREEN, PAINTED IT BLACK AND PUT IT ON THE SIDES IN THERE.
I THINK THAT'S BRINGING MORE ATTENTION TO IT.
THAT, SO, UM, YEAH, TYPICALLY IF YOU PAINT LIKE A SCREEN BLACK, IT LIKE DISAPPEARS LIKE, LIKE A, LIKE A SCREEN PORCH OR YOU, YOU PAINT IT BLACK, IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S CLEAR.
AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE A REALLY BIG PROBLEM WITH THIS JUST BECAUSE THIS IS ON THE STREET.
AGAIN, I THINK, I MEAN, I'M GONNA BE OKAY IF YOU ROTATE IT.
SO FROM THE STREET, YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT BECAUSE I, THIS IS A PREFERABLE CHIPPING CAP.
I MEAN I RATHER HAVE THAT THAN A METAL CHIPPY CAP IS MORE HISTORIC, HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE.
SO WE NEED TO USE ON USE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE VERSUS THE FRAME FROM THAT.
I SAID WE NEED, IT NEEDS TO BE WHATEVER IS APPROPRIATE NEEDS TO BE USED AND NOT UTILIZING SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT.
YEAH, I MEAN I THINK THIS IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, BUT IT'S RELATING TO THE TRADITIONAL FORMS AND IF IT WAS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, WE MIGHT LOOK AT IT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY, BUT NOT REALLY.
GETTING THE, GETTING THE MECHANICS OF THE CHI WORK I THINK IS IMPORTANT HERE.
COMMISSIONER, PROPS, DID YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I DID A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, CAN WE GO TO THE SIDE ALLEGATION? SORRY.
UM, WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT? THE FRONT DOOR AND THE SIDE LIGHTS, THEY SEEM TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PROPORTION, THE ACTUAL DOOR AS FAR AS THE LIGHTS BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY SKINNY.
MY QUESTION IS, COULD YOU TAKE OUT THAT VERTICAL SO IT MATCHES THE YEAH.
I COULD TAKE OUT THE VERTICAL.
I THINK THAT PROPORTION WOULD'VE MATCHED THE DOORS THEN IF YOU TOOK THAT OUT.
UM, AND CHARLOTTE, CAN WE GO TO THE WALL SECTIONS? I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUICK COMMENTS.
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UH, COOL.I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
UH, UP ONE, I THINK ONE MORE THERE.
UM, WHAT ARE YOUR, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE TWO HEADER CONDITIONS? WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT? ONE LOOKS LIKE IT'S THICK AND PAST THE COLUMN.
THE OTHER ONE LOOKS LIKE IT'S KIND OF SKINNY BETWEEN THE FRONT ONE AND THEN THE, SO THE ONE ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT AND THE MIDDLE ONE.
SO ON THE, UH, ON THE HEADER I'VE GOT THE, THE BEAM IS IN LINE WITH THE SHAFT OF THE COLUMN.
NOW IN THE MIDDLE ONE, OF COURSE THAT'S A HIGHER HEADER.
I THINK, UH, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY LOCATED TO SEE IF IT'S NOT A, UH, MORE, UH, MORE STRUCTURAL BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH AND THE WIDTH OF THE PORCH.
BUT THE COLUMNS, THE, THE BEAM SHOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE SHAFT OF THE COLUMN.
WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THE, I MEAN, IT COULD BE SKINNIER.
I, I'M AFRAID IT'S COMING OUT BEYOND IT.
IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEYOND IT.
I'M OKAY WITH THE ONE ON THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, COULD YOU MATCH THOSE? THE ONE ON THE LEFT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMING OUT OR AT LEAST MAYBE PAST THE TRIM.
AND, AND THEN MY SAME COMMENT WOULD BE FOR THE, UM, DOWN BELOW ON THE BAND, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A BAND ON THAT ONE TO THE LEFT.
YOU DON'T HAVE A BAND ON THE ONE TO THE RIGHT.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FLUSH WITH IT.
SAME WITH THE, THE ONE TO THE RIGHT.
SO THE BAND AT THE, WHERE IT MEETS THE BRICK.
I THINK YOU WANT A BAND THERE THAT COMES BEYOND THE COLUMN, LIKE YOU HAVE IT TO THE LEFT.
I WOULD TRY TO MATCH OTHER THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WHERE I CUT IT.
JUST CONSISTENT ON THOSE TWO THINGS.
SO, UM, OH, I, SORRY, I GOT ONE MORE I JUST SAW WE WANT, SO, UM, COULD WE GO TO THE, THAT SIDE ELEVATION AGAIN? SORRY.
UH, GO TO THIS SIDE ELEVATION.
SO THE DORMER RIGHT THERE, IS THAT LAP SIDING ON THE DORMER OR IS IT VERTICAL? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LAP SIDING WITHOUT CORNER CORNER TRIM ON IT.
AND THE CENTER DORMER, THERE'S UM, OR IS THAT GONNA BE BOARD AND BATTEN? NO, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BOARD AND BATTEN AND, UM, I TOOK, TOOK CORNERS OFF AND DIDN'T MATCH EXISTING MATCH THE, SO EVERYTHING, UH, WAS CHANGED TO A BOARD AND BATTEN.
SO THAT'S JUST A, I MISSED, I MISSED THAT ONE.
JUST, JUST QUESTION, I MEAN IT, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON MATCHING THE, IS THERE A REASON YOU DIDN'T MATCH THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WITH THAT? UM, THE CLIENT WANTED ALL BOARD BAT ON THIS, ON HIS HOUSE.
AND, 'CAUSE I HAD, I DID HAVE SIDING ON IT ONE TIME AND WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH AND CHANGE EVERYTHING TO A BOARD BAT.
YOU DON'T SEE IN THE SAME PLANE.
SO IF IT WAS TO BE HORIZONTAL, THEN ALL THAT, I THINK WITH ALL, EVERYTHING ON THE SECOND LEVEL, THE DORMERS AND THE GABLE ENDS SHOULD BE HORIZONTAL TOO.
BUT YES, IF, IF, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT UH, COMES UP BECAUSE TALK ABOUT THAT.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHTS ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THAT? I DIDN'T SEE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THAT, ON THAT.
SO THEY SAY THAT WOULD BE MORE BACK, OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
WELL IT STAFF IS THAT THIS BE HORIZONTAL SIDE AND MATCH THE OTHER ONE.
BUT IF THAT IS THEN THE DORMERS SHOULD PROBABLY BE HORIZONTAL, BUT THEY WANT TO HAVE IT AS FOR WE SEE THE, UH, CARRIAGE HOUSE AGAIN, I THINK MY THOUGHT IN REVIEWING IT, UH, AT HPRC WAS THAT WITHOUT HAVING KNOWN THAT THE GARAGE HAD THE LAP SIDING THERE, THAT UH, LIKE THE VERTICALITY OF IT IN THE ABLE ENDS? NO.
I MEAN YOU DON'T REALLY SEE THOSE TWO ELEVATIONS TOGETHER.
SO YOU GET A PICTURE OF IT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE NEXT TO THE HOUSE.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULDN'T MATCH IT, BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT HERE TO REDESIGN THE HOUSE EITHER WAY.
SO YOU DON'T SEE THIS SIDE TO THE POINT WHERE THE HORIZONTAL, SO YES, IT, I, I'M WITH JIM.
IF IT MAKES IT LOOK THE SAME, THAT'S GREAT.
IF IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE TO DO, BUT
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IF IT IS, I'M FINE WITH THE WAY IT LOOKS, THE WAY YOU PRESENTED IT, WE WOULD PREFER TO KEEP IT ALL BOARD AND BATTEN IF WE MAY.MOVING OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, GOING THROUGH, GOING DOWN THROUGH THE CONDITIONS, UH, THE UTILITY METER, UH, THAT SEEMED PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UH, UM, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ROTATING THE BISHOP'S CAPS.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT TO DISCUSS? UM, JUST TALKED ABOUT THE HORIZONTAL LAB SIDING.
UM, THE SOURCE OF THE BRICK, UH, I THINK THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS WITH STAFF AFTER WE MAKE THAT CONDITION, UM, IS THE SAME THING WITH THE DOOR SPEC AND, UM, THE CASEMENT WINDOWS.
UM, AND THE CONDITION SEVEN WAS THAT THE, I BELIEVE THE APPLICATION SAID ASPHALT SHINGLES AND THE DRAWINGS HAVE METAL ROOF.
SO DO WE HAVE CLARIFICATION ON THAT? IT'S, IT'S ALL METAL.
UM, SO THAT WILL BE AN ALL METAL ROOF AS WE'VE BEEN KIND OF REVIEWING.
UM, AZAC NUMBER EIGHT IS A PVC MATERIAL, UM, THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T APPROVE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE? WHAT IS AZA? IT'S A, IT'S A PVC.
SO USUALLY THE UDO DOESN'T ALLOW PVC.
IT'S TYPICALLY, UH, FOR TRIM PVC TRIM, IT HAS SOFTER EDGES TO IT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS LIKE WOOD.
CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? CAN WE GO BACK TO WHERE THAT IS ON HERE? THAT WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE DETAILS.
I THINK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS CALLED OUT AS IT'S ALLOWED, IT'S NOT ALLOWED HARDY OR EXACTLY PVC AND THEY'RE INTERCHANGEABLE.
WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT BEHIND USING AZTEC MAINTENANCE? MORE DURABLE.
YEAH, IT'S MORE DURABLE PRODUCT.
UM, FOR THE CONVERSATION AT THE, UM, HISTORICAL, THE PRIOR MEETING OF THIS, UM, IT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE AZA MATERIAL AND THAT IT REALLY WASN'T ALLOWED TO.
THE UDO AND I, I WENT THROUGH THE PLANS AND CHANGED ALL THE AZA TO HARDY PLANK.
AND I'M SURE THAT THAT'S THAT ONE NOTE THAT, THAT I DIDN'T SEE FOUND.
BUT, UH, ALL THE TRIM IS BEING CHANGED TO HARDY PLAN, SO THERE IS NO MORE AEC OKAY.
AND, UM, AND NUMBER SIX WAS CORRECTED.
AND, AND CHARLOTTE HAD MENTIONED THAT IT WAS SCRATCHED OUT I THINK ON THE COPY SHE HAD ON THIS.
SO WE, WE DID TAKE THE FIXED WINDOWS OUT.
AND YEAH, AND THE ROOF IS ALL METAL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THE SHUTTERS SINCE THAT'S THE NEXT COMMENT? WELL, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS A COMMENT THAT WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THE CLIENT AGAIN, UH, SHE WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEANER AND NOT SO CROWDED AND I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT OF SPACE ON THE HOUSE I UNDERSTAND.
BUT THIS HOUSE WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND NOT SO ATYPICAL OF EVERY HOUSE YOU SEE HAS GOT A SHUTTER AND YOU DO SEE SOME HOUSES WITHOUT SHUTTER.
SO WE TOOK THE, THE LIBERTY OF NOT HAVING SHUTTERS ON THE HOUSE TO SEE AND IT, IT LOOKS FINE, BUT WE, WE DO UNDERSTAND THE, UM, THE UDO REQUIREMENTS AND UM, THE BOARD'S, UH, THOUGHTS ABOUT MAYBE POSSIBLY HAVING SHUTTERS, BUT WE AGAIN, WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE SHUTTERS IF WE CAN.
ANY THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SHUTTERS? CAN, CAN WE SEE A PICTURE OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WITH THE SHUTTERS REAL QUICK? DO YOU MIND? THANK YOU.
SORRY, I'M TRYING TO SEARCH THE PACKAGE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE VIEW WE, EXCEPT HERE, BUT SOMETIMES THERE IS A THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A CARRIAGE HOUSE BEING A SEPARATE STRUCTURE THAT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF SEPARATE DETAILING FROM THE MAIN HOUSE.
UH, YOU KNOW, FOR STICKING WITH THE VERTICAL BOARD AND BATTEN IN THE GABLE END.
THAT'D BE ONE DIFFERENTIATION.
AND THE SHUTTERS COULD BE A SECOND ONE.
MY THOUGHT THE SHUTTERS ARE NOT EXPOSED, NOT IN THE ELEVATION WHERE THE, 'CAUSE THE HOUSE IS CONNECTING TO THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WHERE THE GARAGE DOORS ARE GOING IN.
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THE SHUTTERS ARE ON THE SIDE AND THE BACK.SO WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS IT'S GONNA BE ONE BIG STRUCTURE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
IT'S NOT LIKE A HOUSE AND A SEPARATE HOUSE.
IT'S THEY'RE CONNECTING THE TWO.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE ONE STRUCTURE.
I MEAN VISUALLY, WELL I WAS GOING BUT THE SHUTTERS AREN'T REALLY SEEN WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IN.
IT'S ON THE SIDES AND THE BACK.
SO AGAIN, AND THEN THIS IS NOT A HIGHLY TRAFFIC STREET, BUT YEAH, I MEAN IT'S UH, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT IS A FIT.
THE UDO, THEY EITHER HAVE TO HAVE SHUTTERS OR NO SHUTTERS, ISN THAT BASICALLY D CORRECT.
SO YOU PUT ON ALL THE WINDOWS AND YOU DO IT.
IF I THINK THAT APPLICATION IS A LOT OF SHUTTERS, ESPECIALLY ON THE LEFT ELEVATION OR THE RIGHT SIDE ELEVATION, UM, YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'D GET A CAR, UH, ON THE FAR, FAR END.
FAR LEFT SEA WINDOWS WHERE YOU DIDN'T FIT A SHUTTER IN THERE.
SO I'M GOOD MOVING ON WITHOUT THE SHUTTERS.
I'M GOOD WITH NO SHUTTERS ON THE HOUSE.
SEEMS LIKE WE'RE AT CONSENSUS THERE.
AND THEN, UM, OUR OTHER ITEM ON THE STAFF COMMENTS WOULD BE THE DETERMINATION THAT THE MASSING OF THE MIDDLE BLOCK OF THE STRUCTURE AS IT IS TALLER THAN GREEN STREET.
UM, THE GREEN STREET FRONT ELEVATION BLOCK IS APPROPRIATE.
WE DISCUSS THIS AT HPRC AND I LOST MY NOTES, BUT THAT CAME UP IN LOOKING AT IT, YOU STILL SEE THE ROOF FROM BEHIND.
I DON'T REMEMBER HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AFTER WE REALIZED REALLY THE SIDE ELEVATION IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.
AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE LOOKING AT, YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE GROUND LEVEL.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT STRAIGHT ON FROM THE ROOF ON.
SO, SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THIS DRAWING IS NOT, WE'RE GONNA SEE FROM THE STREET LEVEL.
UM, SO IT SEEMS PRETTY, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF THAT TO BE HONEST.
I MEAN IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT JUMPED OUT TO ANYBODY KIND AT THE START OF THE DISCUSSION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? OKAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION ABOUT SHUT SHUTTERS SHUTTING THIS MEETING.
IT'S, UH, COME DOWN, UH, WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS YOU CAN TAKE OUT THE AZTEC 'CAUSE HE TOOK OUT THE AZTEC ON HIS DRAWINGS.
AND THEN THAT'S MY MOTION TO UH, APPROVE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS MINUS THOSE TWO.
THINK WE ADD THE TWO THINGS THAT, THAT HEADERS BEING THE SAME FOR THE FRONT INSIDE ELEVATION AND THE BAND BOARDS BEING THE SAME ON THE PORCHES.
SO, I'M SORRY, REPEAT THAT AGAIN.
THE HEADERS ON THE PORCHES BEING CONSISTENT BE THE SAME.
AND THE BAND BOARDS ON THE PURCHASE AND THEN THE SIDELIGHTS FOR THE, THE DOORS REMOVE THE VERTICAL DIVIDE.
IS THIS A WONDERFUL WAY TO SET THE MOTION? BY WAY, CHARLOTTE? GOOD JOB.
THAT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
JIM, DO YOU WANNA JUST LET THAT FIRST MOTION DIE SINCE WE YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE WAS DOING THAT.
I THOUGHT WAS TWO AND THEN IT WAS YOU GUYS ADDED LIKE FOUR MORE THINGS.
YEAH, BUT, AND DO WE NEED TO DO THE DETERMINATION ON THIS MOTION AS WELL, CHARLOTTE? THE, UH, THE MASSING IS REAL FINE WITH THE MASSING OF THE MIDDLE BLOCK.
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JIM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND STAB AT YOUR MOTION? YEAH, WELL I GOT, AT LEAST I GOT THE CONVERSATION STARTED.I'LL TAKE A, MAKE A MOTION WITH THE, TO APPROVE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, LISTED ON WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
WHAT DETERMINATION AND THE DETERMINATION PLUS THE DETERMINATION OF THE MASSING OF THE MIDDLE BLOCK IS APPROPRIATE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? RIGHT.
THE MOTION HAS, UH, PASSED AND UH, THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, UM, WITH CONDITIONS.
[VIII.1. Historic District Monthly Update. (Staff)]
UH, MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION.UH, THE HISTORIC HISTORIC DISTRICT MONTHLY UPDATE.
WE HAD NINE SITE ISSUE PERMITS.
UH, LAST MONTH MAY INCLUDE A COUPLE OF GRANTS THAT INCLUDE THE PAINTING AND REPAIR OF DOORS FOR THE RATE AS WELL AS REPAIRS TO THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE BLUFFTON UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MONTHLY UPDATE?
[VIII.2. Discussion regarding proposed amendments to non-contributing structures in Old Town Bluffton Historic District. No attachments. (Staff)]
UH, MOVING ON TO DISCUSSION REGARDING PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES IN OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT.ALRIGHT, UM, REGARDING THE NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, THE DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION, WE ARE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT, I DON'T HAVE THAT UH, FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT BASICALLY IT'S TO TREAT, UH, DEMOLITIONS OF NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES, UM, THROUGH THE SITE RATHER THAN HAVING IT GO THROUGH THE COFA PROCESS, WHICH REALLY DRAWS IT OUT.
UM, WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT IT WAS NECESSARY IN THAT CASE.
AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT CHANGE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
I'VE NEVER HEARD ALL THE OTHER HOUSES CALLED NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES.
SO IT'S EVERY HOUSE BUT THE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE LIST, RIGHT.
EXCEPT FOR THE 80, IT'S THAT HOUSE APPROXIMATELY 80.
SO IF THAT HOUSE CAME BEFORE US FOR DEMO CORRECT, IT AFFECTS THAT HOUSE IN MY HOUSE.
AND SO IT'S IT'S STREAMLINING IT SOMEWHAT.
AND SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT COME TO HPC OR HBR? THAT WOULD JUST BE, IT WOULD NOT STRAIGHT STAFF HANDLED.
RIGHT? 'CAUSE IF YOU RECALL WE HAD FIVE LAWTON, UM, THE CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT WAS IN THE BACK, IT WAS KIND OF A 1940S, 1950S KIND OF JUST OVER THE YEARS HAD BEEN ADDED ON WHATEVER.
UM, AND THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, HPRC AND THEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT REALLY DREW UP THE PROCESS FOR SOMETHING THAT REALLY WASN'T NECESSARY.
DO YOU SEE, IS THERE A PROCESS THAT IF Y'ALL SAY NO THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GO, WOULD THAT BE BZA? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD SAY NO, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.
IF SOMEBODY DENIED A DEMO OF A, THEY WILL BE REVIEWED BY OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATIONIST.
UM, AND WE HAVE DONE THE RESOURCE SURVEY RECENTLY SO WE KNOW WHAT BUILDINGS WE HAVE THAT ARE HISTORIC.
AND SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE'RE GONNA IDENTIFY ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE NEW.
BUT UM, THAT IS A CONSIDERATION OF SOMETHING PERHAPS.
AND I DON'T THINK YOU MIGHT NOT, I MIGHT END UP BEEN CLEAR IF I CAME TO YOU, IF WE PASS THIS AND MY HOUSE IS NOT A CONTRIBUTING, I'LL JUST USE MY HOUSE AND I WANT TO DEMO IT AND YOU'D SAY NO, YOU CAN'T DEMO IT.
WHAT IS MY NEXT STEP AS OPPOSED TO COMING BEFORE AND I'M FINE STREAMLINING.
IT COULD BE AN APPEAL TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS THAT THE PROCEDURE WAS INCORRECT.
ANOTHER STEP WHERE WHEN CAN WE GIVE IDEAS ON EDITS TO THE UDO, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PROVIDE THEM TO ME.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, UH, PREPARING A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR AN UPDATE OF THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN.
SO I SUSPECT FROM THAT PROCESS WE'RE GONNA HEAR, PROBABLY HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS COME OUT OF THAT.
UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU FEEL NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, SOONER THAN THE ADOPTION OF THAT PLAN, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
'CAUSE I AM FINDING THINGS TOO.
HAVING DONE THIS NOW FOR A YEAR, THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME THINGS I FIND UNCLEAR OR UNNECESSARY OR LACKING.
UM, SO ANYTHING THAT YOU FEEL WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOONER, UM, PLEASE PROVIDE THEM.
COULD YOU MAKE SURE WE ALL GET, LIKE WE COULD SEND 'EM TO YOU, BUT CAN YOU CALL, PUT 'EM ALL TOGETHER AND LET ALL OF US US LOOK AT IT? IS THAT SURE.
WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A RUNNING LIST.
I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS PREPARED YET, BUT DEFINITELY A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CORRECT.
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I'M MAKING KEEP ONE CHAIR.ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, NEW AMENDMENTS CONCEPT? ALRIGHT, I HAVE A, A FEW MORE THINGS.
UM, AS WELL, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, TOMORROW THERE WILL BE A COMMEMORATION OF THE HUNDRED 63RD ANNIVERSARY OF THE BURNING OF BLUFFED, UH, GLENN UMBERGER.
OUR PRESERVATIONIST WILL BE GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND HISTORY BACKGROUND AT THE SQUIRE POPE CARRIAGE HOUSE AT NOON IN WRIGHT FAMILY PARK.
SO YOU'RE INVITED TO ATTEND THAT.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, LAST MONTH WAS NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH.
WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR TRADITIONAL SYMPOSIUM HERE AT TOWN HALL, BUT WE DID HAVE A, UM, MOBILE SYMPOSIUM.
WE HAD FOUR DIFFERENT, UH, SESSIONS WHERE PEOPLE MET OUT AT THE SQUIRE POPE CARRIAGE HOUSE.
GLEN TALKED ON VARIOUS TOPICS.
UM, SOME OF THEM MULTIPLE TIMES, BUT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT.
AND, UM, I ATTENDED THE LAST SESSION AND WE HAD A VERY GOOD TURNOUT AND SOME GIVEAWAYS AND FOOD AND IT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND VERY WELL RECEIVED.
UM, GLEN DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.
AND THEN FINALLY, I DO WANNA REMIND YOU THAT THERE ARE CONTINUING EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS.
SO A COUPLE OF YOU WILL NEED TO DO THAT, THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF STATE LAW AND TO KEEP OUR CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT STATUS, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED.
AND IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH THAT, UH, CARRIE GUZMAN, UM, AND THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE CAN HELP YOU.
ARE YOU GOING TO LET US KNOW WHO LIKE, IF WE NEED AND WHAT WE NEED? YEAH.
UH, YEAH, I CAN GET YOU MORE INFORMATION.
YEAH, I MEAN, I, I, I DUNNO WHERE I'M AT.
I KNOW I'VE DONE SOME THINGS, BUT IN THE LAST YEAR I HAVE NO IDEA IF I'VE OKAY.
LIKE, 'CAUSE RIGHT? I EXPECT I DID MOM BECAUSE I HADN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY.
IS HE FINE
SO THAT'S WHAT I IS THAT BY YEAR'S END OR IS THAT MIDYEAR? UH, I AM NOT CERTAIN.
I, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH CARRIE ON THAT.
WE'RE PAST MIDYEAR, SO ON THE NOT HAVING A SYMPOSIUM, I KNOW THAT SYMPOSIUM SHOULD BE DONE TO CHECK OUR BOX BECAUSE WE'RE A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
WERE THE SUB, THE SMALLER GET TOGETHERS, THEY SEEM LIKE THEY WERE MORE, UM, ATTENDED THAN OUR LAST SYMPOSIUM.
DOES THAT CHECK THE BOX THAT WE IT DOES, DID EDUCATION.
ALL I HAVE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
ALL IN FAVOR? MEETING IS ADJOURNED.