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          CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY CALLED A MEETING TO ORDER. 
          UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA? SO MOVED. 
          SECOND PER SECOND. 
          UM, ANY OBJECTION? NONE ADOPTED, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF LAST WEEK. 
          REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. 
          FEBRUARY 25TH, 2026. 
          DO I HAVE A MR. CHAIRMAN? YOUR MICROPHONE'S NOT ON. 
          IT'S NOT. 
          OH, IT IS. 
          I'M JUST NOT ON. 
          IS IT ON NOW? THERE YOU GO. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          GREAT. 
          YOU GOT A SECOND BY CLIFF OVER HERE. 
          ANY OBJECTION? ANY ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? NONE. 
          SEEING NONE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WORKSHOP DISCUSSION. 
          UH, TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA RECAP A LITTLE BIT OF LAST WEEK. 
          WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND WE'RE, UM, NOTED WHILE YOU WERE IN HERE. 
          THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AND THEY'RE IN YOUR PACKET, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO OVER A FEW OF THOSE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, DENISE AND, UH, TREY AND SHAY AND BRITTANY MAYBE, UH, WILL BE INVOLVED IN ANSWERING THOSE. 
          SO, UH, WHO'S UP, DENISE? YES, SIR. 
          SO, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          UM, GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 
          BEFORE WE KIND OF, WELL, BEFORE WE DIVE IN, UM, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO, WELL ACTUALLY WE'LL DO THAT IN A MINUTE. 
          WE'RE GONNA COVER THE RES, THE QUESTIONS YOU RECEIVED, AND THEN WE, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE MEET OF TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU RECEIVE IN YOUR PACKET SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS MEAN AND HOW THEY RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER. 
          BUT FIRST WE'RE GONNA, UM, GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THE EXAMPLES AND THE QUESTIONS FROM THE LAST MEETING. 
          UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF 'EM THAT WE REFERENCED. 
          WE'D HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR YOU TONIGHT ON THOSE. 
          AND SO TREY IS GONNA WALK THROUGH THOSE. 
          ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY HEAR ME? ALRIGHT. 
          GOOD. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. 
          TREY LAU, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE RECORD. 
          INTERIM PLANNING DIRECTOR AND INTERIM LMO OFFICIAL. 
          SO COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME EXAMPLES FOR ONE OF WHICH WAS DEVELOPMENT AND PHASES. 
          HOW DOES THAT LOOK? UM, IF YOU'LL FOCUS ON THE SCREEN UP HERE, THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT, UH, OFF OF MARSHLAND ROAD THAT USED THAT TACT. 
          YOU CAN SEE IN 2018, THERE WERE SEVERAL UNDEVELOPED LOTS, UH, THAT ARE MARSH SIDE O ON, ON, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND, AND IN 2015 YOU CAN SEE THAT MOST OF THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN BUILT OUT. 
          THE RESULT IS THAT WHILE IT WAS BUILT OUT, YOU SEE SOME OF THAT EXISTING CANOPY REMAINS AND THAT YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF MATURE TREES ON THOSE, THOSE HOME SITES THAT ARE REMAINING. 
          UH, AND IT WASN'T THAT GREAT OF AN IMPACT ON THE, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, JUST HAVING THOSE BARE LOTS. 
          UM, WE'LL MOVE TO AN EXA AN EXAMPLE. 
          UH, THIS IS IN THE JONESVILLE AREA OF THE ISLAND. 
          YOU'LL SEE IN 2018, UH, THIS WAS PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND THEN THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, UH, IN 2025, WHERE, UH, TO THE SOUTH AND NORTH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT ON THE, WELL GO BACK ONE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF BARE SPACE IN THERE BECAUSE THAT TACTIC WAS NOT IMPLEMENTED. 
          UH, USING THIS PLAN. 
          UH, IF WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THIS IS THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS, UH, UNDEVELOPED. 
          IT'S VERY CLEAR, NO MATURE TREES REMAINING. 
          UH, WHEN IT GETS DEVELOPED OUT AND THE HOUSES ARE BUILT ON IT, IT'S STILL VERY CLEAR, NOT A LOT OF MATURE TREES. 
          UH, AND THEN THERE'S VERY LITTLE, UH, VEGETATION AT ALL AROUND THE, THE HOMES. 
          SORRY. 
          SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF, SORRY, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR SLIDES? THE TITLE SAYS AN EXAMPLE OF PHASE SUBDIVISION TREE REMOVAL. 
          AND ARE YOU SAYING THAT THESE ARE NOT PHASE SUBDIVISION, PHASE SUBDIVISION TREE REMOVAL? THIS SLIDE IS THE, THE PREVIOUS SLIDES. 
          SO RIGHT, THE INTENTION IS TO SHOW HOW PHASE SUBDIVISION TREE REMOVAL LOOKS AS OPPOSED TO HOW IT DOESN'T LOOK. 
          SO YES, WHILE THE, UH, TITLE IS, UH, CONFUSING ON THESE SLIDES, THE, THE EXAMPLES THAT WE STARTED WITH ARE HOW IT LOOKS WHEN IT'S PHASED. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE WAS PHASED SUBDIVISION TREE REMOVAL, AND THEN THE LATTER ONES ARE NOT, 
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CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          TO CLARIFY. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN PRESTON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN NEXT THERE WAS, UH, I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH THE A CI CALCULATIONS VERSUS HOW IT'S DONE TODAY. 
          AND IT PROBABLY SOUNDED LIKE I WAS SPEAKING GREEK AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THAT TO, TO MOST PEOPLE IN THE CROWD. 
          SO WE DECIDED WE'D BRING IN A, A, A REAL EXAMPLE OF A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS DONE OR PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, USING TODAY'S SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE REMOVALS OF ANY, UH, SIGNIFICANT SPECIMEN TREES. 
          AND THEN IF YOUR CURRENT BUFFER AROUND THE PROPERTY IS NOT CURRENTLY PLANTED TO TODAY'S LMO STANDARDS, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          UH, WHEN WE COME UP WITH YOUR TREE MITIGATION PLAN, UH, THE EXAMPLE THAT WE USED WOULD'VE CREATED 160 INCHES TOTAL MITIGATION INCHES NEEDED, UH, USING THE A CI CALCULATION, WHICH IS A TRUE SITE SPECIFIC, REGARDLESS OF THE SIZE OF TREE STARTING AT SIX INCHES UP REMOVAL, AND IT'S BASED ON CALIPER INCHES. 
          UH, AND THEN THE EXAMPLE WE SHARED WHERE IT'S THE, THE 900, UH, DIVISIBLE BY 900, UH, YOU COME UP WITH 774 INCHES OF TOTAL MITIGATION NEEDED. 
          SO YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A STARK CONTRAST IN THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS WHEN WE TAKE AWAY THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION FROM THE A CI CALCULATION. 
          UM, THE GOAL MOVING TOWARDS A CI CALCULATION IS, IS NOT TO CREATE THAT MUCH MITIGATION ON THE DEVELOPER. 
          IT IS TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO RETAIN THE EXISTING TREES ON THE SITE. 
          SO BY CREATING A HIGHER MITIGATION REQUIREMENT, WE'RE GONNA SEE MORE TREES RETAINED BECAUSE IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO GET THOSE TREES IN YOUR BUFFERS AND ON SITE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING OR WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING TOWARDS A CI CALCULATIONS AND REMOVING THAT EXEMPTION FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. 
          NOW, THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS WE SENT ANSWERS TO IN YOUR PACKET, AND WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF PAUSE TO DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE, UH, THAT WEREN'T VERY CLEAR. 
          UH, OTHERWISE WE'LL GET INTO TODAY'S SESSION. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS REFERENCE THE SPECIFIC CODE SECTIONS WERE ALSO SENT IN RESPONSE. 
          SO IT'S ATTACHMENT TO, UM, IN YOUR NOTEBOOK, AND IT'S LISTED AS PAGE 24. 
          UM, IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER, IT'S BACK BEHIND THE LARGE TABLE. 
          AND IF YOU NEED SOME MORE TIME TO REVIEW THOSE, UM, AND YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UM, FOR STAFF, THEN CERTAINLY PLEASE REACH OUT TO STAFF AND WE'LL TRY AND GET THOSE ANSWERED FOR YOU. 
          UH, COUNCILWOMAN BECKER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NOT SO MUCH OF A QUESTION, AS I DO APPRECIATE GETTING THE ANSWERS TO THE, UM, POINTS THAT, UM, WERE BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          UH, I DO WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS AND TO DEVELOP IMPROVEMENTS ON, UM, A NUMBER OF THESE ITEMS INCLUDING, UM, SPECIFICALLY ACTUALLY THE WETLANDS AND THE BUFFERS. 
          UM, I KNOW WE'VE STARTED TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M GETTING A, A, A BETTER SENSE. 
          UM, BUT IT ALSO IS REFINING THE QUESTIONS THAT, OR THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT I WANNA SEE MADE. 
          SO I REALIZE THIS MAY NOT BE THE BEST TIME FOR THAT, BUT, UM, I WANT TO KEEP THAT ON YOUR LIST AS OPEN, UM, TOPICS. 
          UM, SO IN PARTICULAR, THE ANSWER TO TWO, UM, AND FOUR AND FIVE, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO DISCUSS SEVEN, EIGHT, AND 10  . 
          IT'S, THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT I DON'T, THAT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME REFINEMENT TOO TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IMPLEMENTED IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, UM, TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND OUR HOB WILDLIFE HABITAT MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO IT MIGHT BE ANOTHER SECTION. 
          OKAY, BUT KEEP IT ON THE TABLE, PLEASE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN MARISSA? YES, THANK YOU. 
          I'M ACTUALLY SPEAKING DUNLAP . 
          SHE UNFORTUNATELY WAS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          SHE HAD A FAMILY MATTER THAT SHE HAD TO ATTEND TO OUT OF TOWN, SO SHE ASKED ME TO READ THIS INTO 
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THE RECORD. 
          UM, AND IT PERTAINS TO TWO OF THE QUESTIONS, WHICH APPEAR TO BE SOMEWHAT OF A QUESTION ABOUT THE QUESTIONS AND ALSO SOME STATEMENTS. 
          BUT IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND READ THAT INTO THE RECORD. 
          UH, NUMBER ONE, THE TOWN SHOULD REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO HAVE A NATURAL RESOURCE BOND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT COST IF THEY GO AGAINST THE LMO RESTRICTIONS FOR UP TO THREE YEARS AFTER THE COMPLETE OF THE PROJECT. 
          THIS WOULD ALLOW THE TOWN TO VERIFY NEWLY MANY MUNICIPALITIES HAVE HAD SUCCESS WITH REQUIRING SUCH A BOND. 
          TWO, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONCERN ABOUT HOW TREE BANK WOULD WORK. 
          THE LAST THING WE WANT IS TO CREATE A LOOPHOLE FOR SOME DEVELOPERS OR BUILDERS TO USE IN CLEAR CUTTING TREES FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          MY SUGGESTION IS FOR THE TOWN TO DO RESEARCH WITH OTHER TOWNS SLASH CITIES WHO HAVE IMPLEMENTED A TREE BANK IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THEIR SUCCESS OR FAILURES AND LESSONS LEARNED. 
          IN ADDITION, IF HILTON HEAD MOVES FORWARD WITH A TREE BANK, THERE SHOULD BE STRINGENT WRITTEN GUIDELINES ON HOW IT IS USED BY DEVELOPERS SLASH BUILDERS AND THE PROCESS FOR HOW THE TOWN WILL MANAGE IT. 
          SO THAT APPEARED TO RELATE TO TWO OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BEING ADDRESSED. 
          THAT'S YOUR STATEMENT TO IT WAS A QUESTION, UH, ASKED LAST WEEK THAT I DON'T SEE ANSWERED HERE. 
          AND THAT WAS WITH RESPECT TO THE TREES IN PORT ROYAL PLAZA THAT THEY WERE REMOVED. 
          AND I THINK IT WAS, UM, COUNCILWOMAN BECKER ASKED THAT IT BE ADDRESSED FOR THIS MEETING. 
          I DON'T SEE THE RESPONSE HERE. 
          WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? IT WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I JUST BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ANSWERING THE PUBLIC'S COMMENTS AS WELL, UM, AND NOT JUST OUR OWN, UM, AS THEY'RE IMPORTANT. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FROM. 
          IT, THERE WAS INFORMATION SENT OUT, I'M NOT SURE IF IT MADE IT TO THE PACKET. 
          OKAY, WHAT'S THE ANSWER? THE STAFF HAVE A RESPONSE FOR THEM. 
          THOSE REMOVALS WERE PART OF AN APPROVED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          I JUST, UH, I'M NOT, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT. 
          CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? IT WAS A COMMENT FROM ONE OF THE, UM, PEOPLE ATTENDING, I DON'T RE REMEMBER THE LADY'S NAME. 
          AND SHE ASKED ABOUT WHY THOSE TREES WERE REMOVED FROM THE PARKING LOT. 
          AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN BECKER ASKED WHERE THEY WAS THAT PERMITTED AND WHO ACTUALLY REMOVED THEM. 
          SO THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE QUESTION. 
          SO YES, SIR, I, AND I DID, UM, VOLUNTEER TO SPEAK WITH STAFF. 
          WE HAVE SPOKEN, UH, STAFF DID RECEIVE THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION. 
          IT WENT THROUGH A REVIEW PROCESS AND IS STILL PART, UH, ACTIVE PROJECT. 
          UM, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD PREFER THAT THE LMO TASK FORCE REMAIN REVIEWING THE LMO TASK FORCE. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SITUATIONS THAT WE'RE ALL AWARE OF, BUT STAFF IS NOT IN A PLACE TO COMMENT ON INDIVIDUAL AND SPECIFIC MATTERS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE CONTINUING. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR, FROM THE TASK FORCE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. 
          SO BEFORE WE KIND OF DIVE INTO THE MEAT OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST QUICKLY WALK THROUGH WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR NOTEBOOK, UM, BEHIND THE MARCH 5TH TAB. 
          SO YOU HAVE THE MEMO THAT WAS SENT OUT FROM THE STAFF. 
          UM, YOU HAVE AN UPDATED TABLE. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TABLE THAT'S REALLY GUIDING US FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MEETINGS. 
          THERE WERE SOME CHANGES MADE TO THE TABLE, PRIMARILY IN MOVING UP SOME OF THE SECTIONS, UM, THAT SHOWED UP UNDER, ORIGINALLY UNDER C FOUR. 
          THOSE HAVE BEEN MOVED UP TO SECTION B THREE, AND THAT WAS REALLY, IT MAKES MORE SENSE IN THE KIND OF CADENCE OF HOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE TOPICS. 
          UM, BUT EVERYTHING IS SHOWN WITH TRACK CHANGES SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN REFLECTED IN THE TABLE. 
          AND THEN BEHIND THAT TABLE, UM, YOU WILL SEE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT I BELIEVE WERE SHARED PREVIOUSLY. 
          UH, THE FOLLOWING PAGES ARE ATTACHMENT TWO, WHICH IS THE, UH, RESPONSE Q AND A RESPONSE SUMMARY FROM THE MEETING, OUR LAST MEETING. 
          AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, ENCOURAGE YOU TO EMAIL THOSE TO THE CHAIR AND COPY STAFF AND WE CAN FOLLOW UP INDIVIDUALLY ON ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THERE. 
          UH, BEHIND THAT ARE THE SECTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WERE REQUESTED LAST WEEK, IN PARTICULAR, THE WETLAND ORDINANCE 
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AND THE TREE ORDINANCE. 
          SO THOSE WILL BE HELPFUL AS YOU REVIEW THE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS FROM LAST WEEK. 
          MOVING ON TO REALLY THE TOPIC FOR THIS EVENING, UM, IF YOU'LL FLIP TO PAGE 50, AND THIS IS ATTACHMENT THREE. 
          THESE ARE THE CODE SECTIONS FOR ZONING AND LAND USE. 
          THE FIRST PAGE YOU'LL SEE IS THE ZONING MAP. 
          UH, THIS ZONING MAP IS ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR EASIER REFERENCE. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING, UM, A GOOD DEAL ABOUT THE ZONING MAP THIS EVENING. 
          BEHIND THAT, YOU WILL SEE THE CODE SECTIONS FOR THE ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          AND SHAY'S GOING TO REVIEW AGAIN, HOW THESE VARIOUS ELEMENTS ARE RELATED TO ONE ANOTHER. 
          THEN IF YOU KIND OF KEEP FLIPPING THROUGH, UM, YOU WILL SEE IN THE BACK YOU HAVE SEVERAL, UM, PAGES THAT AGAIN ARE THE 11 BY 17, WHICH PULL OUT THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT QUICKLY. 
          ONE IS THE PRINCIPLE USE TABLE. 
          UM, AGAIN, TREY IS GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT YOU HAVE THESE DOCUMENTS IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. 
          MS. BECKER, I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN 'CAUSE AS I WAS OBSERVING THE ROOM, IT SEEMED AS THOUGH PEOPLE WERE FALLING BEHIND. 
          YOU WERE MOVING VERY QUICKLY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING A VERY EFFICIENT JOB AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE A MOMENT, MAKE THAT EVERYONE ON THE GROUND, THE TABLE WITH THESE DOCUMENTS IS CAUGHT UP IN FINDING THE, UM, THE RELEVANT DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. 
          UM, AND THEN, AND THEN I THINK WE CAN RESET. 
          JUST THANK YOU. 
          GIVE EVERYBODY A MOMENT TO CATCH UP AND TO FIND SPOT. 
          I AM FROM THE SOUTH, BUT PEOPLE SAY I TALK FAST, SO IF I'M EVER TALKING TOO FAST, I DO APOLOGIZE. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MR. JOHNSON, IF YOU COULD REFERENCE THEM BY PAGE NUMBERS, I MEAN, YOU, I I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU WE'RE INUNDATED WITH A LOT OF MATERIAL YES, SIR. 
          ON TONIGHT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAIR IT IS FOR US TO JUST GET IT TONIGHT AND BE ABREAST OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. 
          SO THIS INFORMATION WAS SENT OUT WITH A PACKET. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE THAT THE, THE HARD COPIES THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE, WERE SENT OUT IN YOUR PACKET. 
          UM, BUT HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN. 
          SO IF WE'LL GO, SO WE'LL GO BACK TO THE, TO THE LARGE TABLE. 
          THAT'S AN EASY ONE TO FIND IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. 
          SO IT WOULD BE PAGE NINE. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE AMENDMENT TABLE THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE 2014 AMENDMENTS, THE AMENDMENTS SINCE 2014, AND THE REMAINING IDENTIFIED COMMITMENTS AND THAT ARE THE FOCUS OF OUR CONVERSATION. 
          AND THEN IF WE GO TO PAGE 19, THOSE ARE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WERE SHARED, UM, AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING. 
          GO TO PAGE 24 AND 25. 
          THAT'S THE QUESTION AND RESPONSE SUMMARY FROM THE LAST MEETING BEHIND PAGES 24 AND 25, STARTING ON PAGE 27, IT'S THE WETLAND PROTECTION ORDINANCE FOLLOWED BY THE TREE ORDINANCE. 
          EVERYBODY WITH ME? OKAY THEN. 
          SO THAT'S A BIG SECTION. 
          SO THEN IF YOU JUMP AHEAD TO PAGE 50, THAT'S THE MEAT OF THE MATERIALS THAT WE'LL BE USING FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT. 
          FIRST PAGE IS THE ZONING MAP, AGAIN, AVAILABLE ONLINE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE, UM, TWO COPIES OF IT THAT ARE POSTED ON THE ROOM. 
          WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN MORE DETAIL IN A MOMENT. 
          STARTING ON PAGE 52 ARE THE DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS OF EACH OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          EACH OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS RELATE TO THE ZONING MAP. 
          UM, AND SHAY WILL BE GOING OVER THAT IN MORE DETAIL THIS EVENING. 
          BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE THE INFORMATION IS HERE IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. 
          'CAUSE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED THE PARTICULAR PORTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE THAT ARE REALLY THE FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSION. 
          BUT IF YOU WANT TO REFERENCE THE WHOLE THING, IT IS HERE IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. 
          AND THAT'S THE MAIN THING. 
          WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE THAT INFORMATION IS HERE. 
          SO THAT SECTION REALLY CONTINUES THROUGH THE END, UH, TO PAGE 80. 
          AND THEN BEHIND PAGE 80, YOU HAVE THE USE TABLE. 
          THAT PAGE IS NOT NUMBERED. 
          IT'S ON, UH, 11 BY 17 FOLDOUT. 
          SO THAT USE TABLE IS THE NEXT TWO PAGES THAT'S IN THE BACK OF YOUR NOTEBOOK. 
          AND THEN IN THE VERY BACK, THE LAST PAGE AGAIN IS ANOTHER FOLDOUT, WHICH PROVIDES A, UM, SUMMARY CHART OF THE VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          AND THE INFORMATION YOU CAN SEE SUMMARIZED THERE OF DENSITY, UM, 
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HEIGHT, AND SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS INTENDED TO REALLY BE KIND OF A QUICK REFERENCE FOR YOUR USE. 
          IF YOU WANT MORE DETAIL, UM, THE FULL DISTRICT DOCUMENT IS THERE FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          HOPEFULLY THAT WAS HELPFUL. 
          I KNOW IT WAS A LOT. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA WALK THROUGH THIS AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AT ANY TIME, PLEASE STOP US AND WE WILL GO BACK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO SHAY. 
          CAN I JUST JUMP IN AND MAKE SURE EVERYONE CAUGHT UP? RIGHT? YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT, YOU KNOW, THE PAGES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I, SORRY, I HAD MY, YEAH, SURE. 
          IS THERE ANYONE WHO DID NOT RECEIVE A COPY? I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT ANSWERING THAT OR ASKING THAT IN THE BEGINNING. 
          ALL GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, I'M SORRY MS. P WASN'T LEFT UP THERE. 
          I DID PUT IT BACK UP INTENTIONALLY, UH, LAST TIME I HAD A HARD COPY OF THE, UH, UP, UH, NOT UPDATED. 
          LMO HERE IS A MASTER COPY OF STAFF, IF ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT A HARD COPY AS OPPOSED TO FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE BEFORE YOU, IF YOU'LL LET, UM, A FACILITATOR OR STAFF, NO, I'M HAPPY TO RUN AROUND AND BRING IT TO YOU, , BUT THAT'S HERE. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER THING TO CLARIFY IS, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CHART OF, I CALL IT THE THREE COLUMNS, THERE'S ACTUALLY FOUR. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS THE A, B, C, AND D. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT, UH, ARE WE GONNA GO BACK TO A, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME LINGERING QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT I KNOW THAT I HAVE AND, AND PERHAPS OTHER FOLKS HAVE AS WELL. 
          SO ARE WE GONNA DO THAT FIRST WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE CHART, IS MY QUESTION. 
          SO OUR INTENT THIS EVENING IS TO MOVE FORWARD INTO SECTION B. 
          UM, IF THERE ARE, WE HEARD THE COMMENTS FROM COUNCILWOMAN BECKER TO HIGHLIGHT. 
          UM, SO IF, IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ABOUT SECTION A, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHARE THOSE. 
          BUT WE WE'RE, OUR PLAN IS TO GO NOW, REMEMBER, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE ARE HEARING YOU ABOUT FUTURE CONSIDERATION. 
          AND AT THE END OF GOING THROUGH THIS FULL ENTIRE CHART, UM, THE STAFF WILL REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AS A FUTURE CONSIDERATION TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS RECOMMENDED TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS OR KEEP AS A FUTURE CONSIDERATION. 
          AND ALL THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE TASK FORCE COMMENTS I HAVE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          SO THIS IS, UM, FIRST PAGE OF THE CHART, WHICH IS ATTACHMENT A, UM, WETLAND PROTECTION. 
          UM, TWO NOTES THAT I HAVE. 
          THESE ARE BASED ON COMMENTS AND FOLLOW UP WITH ME. 
          UH, FOLKS HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME. 
          FIRST OF ALL, UM, INSTEAD OF REMAINING AMENDMENTS BEING NONE TO ADD CONSIDERATION OF INCREASED BUFFER WITHOUT AVERAGING, THIS POINTED OUT TO ME AND I THINK A COMMENT THAT MR. SOAN MADE AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, THAT WE HAVE A VERY SMALL, UH, BUFFER COMPARED TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS. 
          AND THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS RECENTLY INCREASED THEIR BUFFER. 
          SO I, I WOULD ASK THAT WE INCLUDE THAT, UM, RATHER THAN NOT HAVE, UM, AN AMENDMENT TO CONSIDER. 
          AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, IT WAS, UH, ASKED ABOUT PROTECTION OF IES, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE BUFFER. 
          AND I WOULD REQUEST ON BEHALF OF OTHERS WHO'VE ASKED ME ABOUT IT TO INCLUDE, UM, A PROVISION FOR PROTECTION OF IES, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM WETLAND BUFFER. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          SO THAT'S A ONE. 
          UM, THEN IN A TWO, UM, A QUESTION WAS RAISED LAST TIME ABOUT AN APPEAL OF REASONABLE EFFORTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UNDERSTAND THAT A STATUTE, THOSE APPEALS COULD GO EITHER TO THE BZA, THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          AND SO MY QUESTION OF STAFF IS, IS THERE ANY APPEAL CURRENTLY GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? AND WOULD THAT NOT BE A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEDURE, WHICH SHOULD INSTEAD GO TO THE BZA? CURRENTLY, THERE IS NOT AN APPEAL PROCEDURE IN THE TREE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW ANYTHING TO BE IT. 
          IT'S A VARIANCE PROCESS. 
          SO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE CODE WOULD GO TO THE, THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS. 
          SO IT WOULD SEEM AS THOUGH AN APPEAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD, WOULD BE WAY OUTSIDE THE NORMAL COURSE OF THINGS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALLOWED BY STATUTE. 
          SO THE SUGGESTION IS TO HAVE ALL THOSE KIND OF APPEALS GO TO BZA, WHICH IS SET UP ON A QUASI-JUDICIAL BASIS. 
          AND, UM, ANOTHER, UH, ITEM THAT WAS MENTIONED, I SUGGESTED A BONUS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING WITH REGARD TO, UM, EITHER FUNDS, UH, FUNDS FROM THE TREE BANK. 
          THE LAST THING THAT WAS RAISED IN AN EMAIL TO ME, UM, BY A CITIZEN IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, CERTAIN KINDS OF ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS THAT IF YOU REMOVE CERTAIN KINDS OF TREES FROM THAT AREA, IT WILL GREATLY AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT OF THAT AREA. 
          SO PERHAPS TO HAVE NO MITIGATION, UH, NO REMOVAL OF TREES IN CERTAIN ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS, AND TO INCLUDE 
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THAT IN THE CONSIDERATION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH THE FOCUS UNDER B IN YOUR, EXCUSE ME, IN YOUR TABLE SECTION, UH, B WHICH ZONING AND LAND USE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING, SHAY FERARA, PRINCIPAL PLANNER. 
          UM, SO BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE ZONING CHANGES THAT WE'LL DISCUSS TONIGHT, UM, WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A FRAMEWORK AND AN INTRODUCTION TO, UM, TO THE TOWN ZONING. 
          SO WHEN YOU HAVE A ZONING CHANGE, IT DETERMINES WHAT CAN GO WHERE, HOW INTENSE IT CAN BE, AND WHAT FORM IT TAKES. 
          UH, THE ISLAND ZONING FRAMEWORK IS OUTLINED HERE, WHICH YOU'LL SEE CONSISTS OF A MAP, A USE TABLE, AND DENSITY INFORMED STANDARDS. 
          YOUR ZONING MAP TELLS YOU WHERE YOUR USE TABLE TELLS YOU WHAT, AND YOUR DENSITY INFORMED STANDARDS TELLS YOU HOW INTENSE AND WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, LOOKING AT WHAT WE SENT OUT IN THE PACKET, AND I KNOW THIS IS BLURRY, BUT I WANTED YOU TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PACKET ITSELF. 
          EACH DISTRICT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, UM, IS INCLUDED. 
          AND SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A PURPOSE STATEMENT FOR EACH DISTRICT. 
          THERE'S A USE TABLE FOR EACH DISTRICT, AND AT THE END THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARDS, WHICH ARE SPECIFIC TO EACH DISTRICT. 
          SO THERE IS A MAXIMUM DENSITY, A LOT COVERAGE STANDARD, AS WELL AS OPEN SPACE AND, UM, AND IMPERVIOUS, YES. 
          AND MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT. 
          SO THOSE ARE IN YOUR PACKET, AND THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK THAT THE TOWN'S, UM, ZONING IS BUILT AROUND. 
          SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT MAP CHANGES, UM, WHERE ON THE MAP WE MIGHT MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DIVE IN, UH, WITH THAT INTRODUCTION FROM SHAY. 
          UM, B ONE IS FOR THE LAND USE TABLE. 
          UH, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO PERIODICALLY REVIEW THE USE TABLE TO ALIGN WITH CHANGING CONDITIONS. 
          AND THE NEXT ONE IS THE ACTUAL USE TABLE. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE THIS IN YOUR NOTEBOOK TOWARDS THE END. 
          AND AS A REMINDER, THE USE TABLE GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT SHAY JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH THE ZONING MAPS THAT ARE ON THE, UM, BOARDS, EACH SIDE OF THE ROOM AND ALSO IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. 
          SO EACH OF THESE ZONING DISTRICTS ARE REPRESENTED BY A COLOR ON THE ZONING MAP. 
          SO, UM, WHAT'S ONE OF THE BRIGHT COLORS? THE, UM, RESORT DISTRICT. 
          SO FOR REFERENCE, THE THE LARGEST LAND AREA, WHICH IS, UH, KIND OF A A A A TAN COLOR IS YOUR PD ONE DISTRICT. 
          UH, THE NEXT LARGEST, WHICH IS ALSO A, A HUE OF TAN IS RM FOUR. 
          AND THEN FOR REFERENCE, UH, YOUR RESORT DISTRICT IS THE, UH, PINK OR FUCHSIA COLOR ON THE, UH, ZONING MAP. 
          SO FOR THE, FOR THE USE TABLE THAT'S HERE, UM, DO YOU WANT SOME OF THE CHANGE? THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES THAT WILL BE PART OF FURTHER DIS FUTURE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE USE TABLE. 
          AND THOSE ARE OUTLINED IN, UM, YOUR AMENDMENT TABLE. 
          BUT THE RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT IS TO PERIODICALLY REVIEW THE USE TABLE TO ALIGN WITH CHANGING CONDITIONS. 
          UM, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW THE USE TABLE. 
          WE ARE NOT GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME TONIGHT. 
          WE UNDERSTAND IT IS VERY DETAILED AND IT TAKES SOME TIME TO REVIEW THAT, BUT WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW IT. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE FEEDBACK ON USES THAT YOU BELIEVE ARE NOT APPROPRIATE AND THAT PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT THAT YOU WOULD SHARE THAT BACK WITH US, UM, IN AN EMAIL FORM. 
          AND A COUPLE THINGS THAT, UH, WE WANT TO REMIND YOU OF IN LOOKING AT USES PER DISTRICT, WHENEVER THE USES CHANGE WITHIN A PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A ONE ZONING DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS A PARTICULAR USE, SAY A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT ALLOWS FOR RESTAURANTS, IF IN THAT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT YOU DECIDE THAT RESTAURANTS ARE NO LONGER PERMITTED, BUT YET YOU HAVE MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST WITHIN THAT ZONING DISTRICT, THOSE USES THEN BECOME NON-CONFORMING, WHICH CAN BE CHALLENGING FOR THOSE PARTICULAR BUSINESSES FOR THEM TO CONTINUE IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF DISASTER, IF THEY WANNA UNDERGO SOMETHING THAT IS A MAJOR RENOVATION. 
          SO JUST THINK ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHEN WE DO HAVE USE CHANGES WITHIN A DISTRICT, IT'S NOT ONLY GOING TO AFFECT DEVELOPMENT MOVING FORWARD, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THOSE USES THAT EXIST WITHIN THAT DISTRICT TODAY. 
          SO 
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THAT'S A TREY, I MISS ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO SAY ELSE ABOUT THE USE TABLE. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY NON-CONFORMING, UH, USES AT THIS TIME? I'M SORRY? DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS THAT HAVE NON-CONFORMING USES? YES, MA'AM. 
          IT, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR THERE TO BE USES IN A, IN A HIGHLY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WHERE YOU DO HAVE SOME NONCONFORMING USES AND YOUR ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THOSE, UM, AS WELL. 
          UM, SO JUST SOME CLARIFICATION ON, I, I KNOW LAST WEEK WHEN WE COVERED, UH, CERTAIN AREAS, WE HAD A, A WHITEBOARD OVER HERE THAT WE WROTE EVERYTHING DOWN ON FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION. 
          IN THIS, UH, IN SECTION B PARTICULARLY, WE HAVE FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS AND WHAT ALIGNS WITH WHAT WE WENT OVER LAST WEEK, WHICH SAYS REMAINING AMENDMENTS. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT TO EVERYONE. 
          SO FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, LAST WEEK. 
          SAME IN THIS TABLE. 
          WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE THOUGH IS THESE ARE THE ONES WE'VE EARMARKED ALREADY. 
          INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WHITEBOARD IT, THESE ARE WHAT WE'VE EARMARKED. 
          UM, ALSO WE WILL BE COVERING, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT USES, UH, IN THE NEXT SESSION, UH, IF WE MAKE IT THROUGH TODAY, UH, WHICH ARE TIMESHARE SHORT TERM RENTALS, FOOD, TRUCK, AND SINGLE FAMILY USES. 
          SO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THOSE USES THAT YOU SEE IN THE TABLE OR DON'T SEE IN THE TABLE, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          FEEDBACK ON THINGS YOU WANT TO CHANGE, THINGS THAT AREN'T IN THERE THAT YOU SEE THAT SHOULD BE IN THERE, UH, ET CETERA. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO UH, MENTION AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE USE. 
          AND AGAIN, TWO, UM, THE, THE LMO IS A LIVING DOCUMENT. 
          SO UNDER THE REMAINING AMENDMENTS, THE REMAINING AMENDMENTS ARE WHAT WE ARE HEARING THE MOST AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. 
          UM, THE FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS WHILE WE ARE HEARING THEM, WE'RE NOT HEARING THEM AS OFTEN. 
          WE'VE EARMARKED A COUPLE, WE'RE HEARING SOME HERE, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE AND FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          AND WE'RE WRITING ALL OF THOSE DOWN AND THOSE WILL BE CONSIDERED A, UH, AS WELL. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THOSE TWO MEANINGS, UH, AND WHAT THEY MEANT MOVING FORWARD. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU TREY. 
          I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT, REALLY GOOD, UM, EXPLANATION OF HOW THE CHART WORKS AND WHAT THE INTENTION IS, UM, MOVING THROUGH IT. 
          I ALSO WANNA JUST MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE, I KNOW THAT A NUMBER OF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT DON'T, THIS IS YOUR MEETING TOO. 
          WHILE YOU'RE NOT PART OF THE FORMAL TASK FORCE HERE, WE DEFINITELY WANNA HEAR FROM YOU. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU STAND UP AND YOU ASK QUESTIONS OR MAKE SUGGESTIONS, THEY ALSO ARE BEING NOTED. 
          SO, UM, PLEASE SPEAK YOUR MIND AND BE HEARD. 
          THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU, UM, ARE THINKING IS, IS CONSIDERED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION, UM, I DO HAVE ON THE HEELS OF THAT , I DO HAVE A REQUEST OF OUR, UM, PUBLIC THAT'S HERE. 
          WE ARE VERY GLAD YOU'RE HERE. 
          WE ARE GONNA BE DOING SOME INTERACTIVE POLLING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE TASK FORCE BECAUSE WE WANNA USE THAT AS A TOOL. 
          IT IS NOT A VOTE, IT IS A CONSENSUS BUILDING TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE ROOM ON HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THESE VARIOUS PROPOSALS. 
          UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE AN INTERACTIVE POLLING USING YOUR PHONE, BUT WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE PARTICIPATION REALLY BE THE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE. 
          SO WE VALUE THE OPINIONS ABSOLUTELY. 
          OF THE PUBLIC AND INVITE YOU TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          BUT AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE POLLING EXERCISE, WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT IT ONLY BE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT POLLING. 
          SO WITH THAT, UH, YES MA'AM. 
          I WILL NOTE THAT THE POLLING, UM, DURING THE, UH, DISCUSSION TODAY IS NOT GOING TO BE A FORMAL VOTE. 
          LIKE SHE SAID, YOUR NAME WILL ALSO NOT BE DISPLAYED. 
          SO THERE IS NO, UM, I GUESS RESERVE AND SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND EXPRESSING YOUR OPINIONS, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE RELEASED. 
          AND IT IS A PRIVATE POLLING SYSTEM, RIGHT? IT IT IS. 
          THERE'S NO, YOUR VOTE IS NOT TIED TO YOUR NAME IN ANY WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT. 
          SO, SO WHAT SHE'S ASKING IS, IS WHEN SHE PUTS THIS, UM, QR CODE, QR CODE ON THE SCREEN FOR THE AUDIENCE NOT TO TAKE A PICTURE OF IT,  AND USE IT OR, OR YOU'LL BE IN THE POLL. 
          THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SAYING, YES. 
          YES. 
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SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO FOR THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, SO WE WE'RE ASKING YOU TO ALL BE ON YOUR HONOR, THANK YOU , UM, FOR THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, UM, YES. 
          MS. BRYON? YES. 
          UH, ALTHOUGH NAMES WON'T BE USED, BUT IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC RECORD. 
          SO COULD OUR ATTORNEY EXPLAIN TO US HOW THAT WILL BE USED IN POLLING DATA? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S NO IDENTIFIERS, BUT THE RESULTS WOULD BE PUBLIC RECORD. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND HOW WOULD FOLKS FIND THAT? THEY WILL BE ON THE SCREEN? OKAY. 
          UM, IF YOU, DO WE HAVE AN EXTRA DEVICE? I'LL GIVE YOU MY PHONE. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          HOPEFULLY IT'S CHARGED. 
          DOES EVERYONE PHONE ? BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO, THE ONLY ONE WITHOUT A PHONE. 
          UM, OH, KATIE'S GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL GET YOU A PHONE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE BRING THEIR PHONE, UM, FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. 
          'CAUSE UH, WE'LL BE, UM, PROBABLY USING THIS A GOOD BIT AND APOLOGIES FOR NOT, UH, CLARIFYING THAT IN ADVANCE. 
          THANKS KATIE. 
          OKAY. 
          HAS EVERYONE BEEN ABLE TO JOIN, UM, INTO THE POLLING? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. 
          ANYBODY? OKAY. 
          WE GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE STILL JOINING. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE I AM NOT PARTICIPATING. 
          I'M JUST MAKING SURE. 
          NO, I'M, I'M SORRY. 
          THE FIRST QUESTION THAT'S COMES UP WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT YET. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT COMING UP TO THE VERY FIRST. 
          SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A TEST QUESTION IN THERE, YEAH'S, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY'S NOT WHY IT DIDN'T MAKE ITS HAPPEN. 
          SO THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TEST QUESTION IN THERE THAT WAS ABOUT WHAT YOUR FAVORITE FAILURE OF ICE CREAM IS. 
          OH GOD. 
          IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE VERY NEBULOUS AND NON, YOU KNOW, UM, MINE'S ALREADY ON QUESTION FOUR. 
          NO, I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU FIVE PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED TO THE QUESTION ABOUT MIXED USE ZONING ON ARROW ROAD. 
          QUESTION ONE NOTE CARDS. 
          WE CAN DO NOTE CARDS IF WE NEED TO. 
          THERE'S NO RESPONDING CORRECTLY. 
          SO ALL IF YOU GO THE NEXT, SO THIS ISN'T SHOWING ON YOUR PHONE NOW? IT IS. 
          IT IS NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THIS SHOWING ON YOUR PHONE NOW? WELL, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE SURE DIDN'T ANSWER. 
          SORRY ABOUT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. 
          IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT WE DID HAVE A BACKUP PLAN IF THIS DOESN'T WORK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IS EVERYBODY SEEING THE QUESTION ABOUT YOUR FAVORITE FLAVOR OF ICE CREAM? YES. 
          YES. 
          I, WHAT'S A COMPLAINT? ALRIGHT, IS EVERYBODY ABLE TO VOTE? ARE WE GOOD? I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT NOBODY SAID I DON'T LIKE ICE CREAM BECAUSE I WAS REALLY GONNA QUESTION, UM, IF YOU BELONGED IN THIS ROOM, , EVERYONE CHANGES THEIR MIND, MAN. 
          LOOK AT THAT. 
          OH, I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, WE GOT A TIE BETWEEN CHOCOLATE AND CHOCOLATE CHIP. 
          WE GOT EVERYBODY. 
          WE GET A LAST BETTER. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AWESOME. 
          I'M GLAD. 
          WE'RE GOOD. 
          SO I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT 'CAUSE I JUST HEARD IT, I CHANGED MY MIND. 
          I WANT, MAY I? ABSOLUTELY. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS WHEN YOU MAKE A VOTE ON THIS OR YOU SEND IN YOUR INITIAL GUT REACTION TO THE QUESTION, THIS IS NOT HELD, THIS DOES NOT COMMIT YOU TO ANYTHING. 
          YOU MAY CHANGE YOUR MIND. 
          YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN OPINION AT THIS TIME, ALL AT ALL. 
          SO, SO JUST KNOW THIS IS AN OPEN-ENDED QUESTION THAT CAN BE REVISED AS TIME MOVES FORWARD. 
          YES. 
          AND YOU GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THOUGHT. 
          YES. 
          AND THESE ARE NOT VOTES, THESE ARE NOT VOTES. 
          CORRECT. 
          NOT VOTES. 
          THESE ARE NOT VOTES. 
          THIS IS A WAY TO SEE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WORD TO USE IS, BUT THIS, THIS IS A WAY TO BUILD CONSENSUS. 
          SO WHEN WE GO FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS, THE RESPONSES THAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE FOR EACH ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE POSE TO YOU THROUGH THIS WILL BE, YES, I CAN LIVE WITH IT. 
          WHICH MIGHT MEAN YOU'RE NOT A HUNDRED 
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PERCENT ON BOARD, BUT YOU CAN LIVE WITH IT. 
          YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, UH, NO OR UNDECIDED. 
          SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AGAIN, IT'S A WAY TO QUICKLY GET SENSE OF THE ROOM. 
          BECAUSE IF EVERYONE SAYS YES, I CAN LIVE WITH IT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON. 
          IF EVERYBODY'S SAYING NO, WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT WHAT THE CHALLENGE IS. 
          AND MAYBE THAT'S, AND THAT THIS IS A DATA POINT, WHAT I THINK, SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, IT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE AS A TASK FORCE IN YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS. 
          SO IT IS SIMPLY THAT A WAY TO HELP US GET TOWARDS CONSENSUS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON. 
          SO THE FIRST OF THE TOPICS THAT WE WILL DISCUSS IS THE, UM, JONESVILLE ROAD AREA. 
          CONSIDER AMENDING THE JONESVILLE ROAD AREA ZONING FROM RM FOUR LOAD OF MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT TO RSF THREE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, ESTABLISHING A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND RESTRICT SINGLE FAMILY USE. 
          TREY, YOU WANNA PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS ONE? UH, FIRST OF ALL, CAN WE MOVE THE, TO THE NEXT SLIDE SO WE CAN JUST IDENTIFY, ALRIGHT, THIS IDENTIFIES, UH, THE AREA THAT WE'RE, UH, REFERRING TO AND, AND THE PARCELS THAT THIS WOULD, UH, APPLY TO. 
          UM, AGAIN, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE ARE HEARING THE MOST ABOUT. 
          THAT'S WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING, UM, MAKING THESE CHANGES, UM, BY MOVING FROM THE RM FOURS ZONING. 
          SO IF, WE'LL, LET'S, LET'S, UH, YOU WANT GO TO THE NEXT PAGES? YEAH, GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. 
          SO WE HAVE, SO IN EACH SECTION WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PULLED OUT SECTIONS OF THE CODE TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN THE CHANGES. 
          SO IN THE CHART YOU WILL SEE THE DEVELOPMENT FORM STANDARDS, YOU WILL SEE THE CURRENT STANDARDS THAT ARE THE RM FOUR, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WHAT'S PROPOSED WITH THE ZONING CHANGE IN THE R SF THREE. 
          UM, AND THE NEXT SLIDE WE'LL TALK ABOUT USES. 
          WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU JUST A MOMENT TO, TO REVIEW THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE RM FOUR ALLOWS, IT HAS THE SLIDING SCALE DENSITY, WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          UM, BUT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CHANGE THAT SLIDING SCALE DENSITY IS NOT PART OF THE RSF THREE DISTRICT. 
          SO WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA FOCUS ON THE SLIDING SCALE DIS DENSITY TONIGHT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT TOPIC IN OUR TABLE. 
          UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE OTHER STANDARDS AND HOW THOSE RELATE MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS THE SAME IN BOTH DISTRICTS. 
          THE MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, UH, IS THE SAME IN BOTH DISTRICTS AND THE COMMON OPEN SPACE. 
          UM, AND RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS IS THE SAME IN BOTH DISTRICTS? YES, SIR. 
          WHAT, WHAT NON RESIDENTIAL, UH, USE WOULD BE ALLOWED IN A, SO THOSE ARE USES LIKE CHURCHES, GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, WHAT ELSE IS UTILITIES? UTILITIES. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE, THEY'RE SUPPORT SERVICES LIKE THAT. 
          AND, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THOSE USES ARE, THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR, UH, PAGE NUMBER 52 AND 53 IN YOUR NOTEBOOK. 
          WE'LL SHOW YOU ALL OF THE USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE RSF THREE, UM, DISTRICT. 
          AND ON THE NEXT PAGE WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED A COMPARISON OF USES. 
          NOW THIS TABLE, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE SHOWING A SIMILAR TABLE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE PROPOSALS, I WANNA CLARIFY WHAT THIS TABLE'S ILLUSTRATING. 
          THIS TABLE IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE DIFFERENCES AND THE TWO DISTRICTS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF BOTH DISTRICTS ALLOW UTILITIES, IF IT'S PERMITTED IN BOTH DISTRICTS, IT'S NOT GOING TO APPEAR HERE TO SIMPLIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CURRENT DISTRICT AND THE PROPOSED DISTRICT. 
          IS THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA USE THIS PATTERN FOR EACH CHANGE? IS THAT CLEAR THAT THIS DOES NOT SHOW ALL THE, ALL THE USES? IT, IT MAY BE HELPFUL ALSO TO, TO REFER TO THE PULLOUT, THE BIGGER SHEET AND IN INSTEAD OF THOSE NUMBERED PAGES, THIS SHEET, YES. 
          IN YOUR BINDER. 
          UM, THIS IS THE SECOND PAGE OF THE PULLOUT. 
          IT, IT MORE CLEARLY STAYS BY ZONING AREAS, THE VARIOUS USES THAT ARE ALLOWED. 
          AND SO IT'S AN EASY, IT'S A QUICKER REFERENCE MM-HMM . 
          AT LEAST IT WAS FOR ME. 
          SURE. 
          AND IT SAYS I ADJUST ALL THESE MS. CAMPBELL, SO AT, AT R SF 
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THREE ARE FAMILY, AM I CORRECT TO, TO THINK THAT FAMILY COMPOUNDS ARE NO LONGER ACCEPTABLE? SO, EXCELLENT QUESTION AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 
          AND, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO POSE BACK TO THE TASK FORCE IS RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF, UM, HERITAGE RESIDENTS. 
          IF WE SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION IN THIS PROPOSED CHANGE. 
          OKAY. 
          IN ADDITION TO SINGLE FAMILY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS MS. BECKER, DID YOU STILL HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY. 
          JUST, JUST CHECKING. 
          SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CLARIFICATION AROUND THE PROPOSED CHANGE? MS. PRICE? I, I WAS LOOKING AROUND, I WANTED TO SEE IF OTHER TASK FORCE MEMBERS HAD SOMETHING. 
          FIRST I ALWAYS WANNA HEAR FROM OTHER FOLKS AND, UM, I, I'M GLAD MS. CAMPBELL ASKED THAT QUESTION. 
          I HAD THAT SAME QUESTION. 
          UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT DENSITY RIGHT NOW, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S A, A COMPANION REQUEST IN THE JONESVILLE ROAD AREA AND THAT IS TO DO AWAY WITH THE SLIDING SCALE TO KEEP THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT. 
          UM, BUT TO DO AWAY WITH THE SLIDING SCALE IN RM FOUR. 
          UM, SO, UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MAKE THAT COMPARISON, WHICH IS A BETTER CHOICE FOR JONESVILLE ROAD IS ACTUALLY WHAT I'M, I'M THINKING. 
          UM, AND IT GOES TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION ABOUT NON-CONFORMING USES AND MAKING THIS CHANGE, IN PARTICULAR FROM RM FOUR TO R RS F THREE. 
          UM, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR NON-CONFORMING USES? HAS THE STAFF TAKEN A LOOK AT THE IMPACT, UM, WITH ANY OF THESE CHANGES IN ALL NON-CONFORMING USES? UM, AND I SEE ALSO IN THE CHART BED AND BREAKFAST IN RM FOUR IT SAYS 10 ROOMS, BUT THEN THERE'S NOTHING UNDER RSF THREE, WHICH I GUESS MEANS THERE'S NO BED AND BREAKFAST IN RSF THREE, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T SAY NONE. 
          UM, BUT I GUESS WITH THE BLANK THERE WE'RE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, AT ANY RATE, I WOULD ASK THE STAFF, UM, WITH REGARD TO, AND I'M GONNA MAKE YOU COMPARE RIGHT NOW, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE COMPARISON OF TAKING AWAY THE DENSITY AND SLIDING SCALE COMPARED TO CHANGING THE ZONING DISTRICT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE AND THE IMPACT BETWEEN THOSE TWO, WHICH IS THE BETTER CHOICE FOR JONESVILLE ROAD, I THINK IS THE BASIC QUESTION. 
          SO TO KINDA ANSWER THAT OF, OF COURSE WE WANNA LOOK AT ALL SCENARIOS. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. 
          BUT I THINK THE CRUX OF THIS WHOLE THING, UH, IS TO ELIMINATE THE MIXED USE IN MULTIFAMILY FROM THIS DISTRICT. 
          SO THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT RM FOUR IN, IN TOTAL, IF WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE AT RM FOUR AND REMOVING THAT FROM OR, OR JUST IN THE JONESVILLE AREA. 
          I THINK, UH, THE INTENTIONALITY OF, UH, AND RESTRICT A SINGLE FAMILY, THAT'S WHERE YOU GET TO THE RS DIS RSF DISTRICTS. 
          'CAUSE THOSE ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS. 
          AND WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF DENSITY? WE HAVE DONE AN ANALYSIS ON JONESVILLE ROAD AND COME UP WITH THREE. 
          SO IT WAS, IT WAS ACTUALLY 2.91 I BELIEVE WAS, WAS WHAT WAS DONE IN THE ANALYSIS. 
          SO THREE WAS THE APPROPRIATE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT FOR THAT TO FALL IN. 
          AND OF COURSE THAT'S ALL UP FOR DISCUSSION AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. 
          NON-CONFORMING USES. 
          HAVE YOU TAKEN A LOOK AT NON-CONFORMING USES IF ZONING DISTRICT HAS CHANGED? MOST OF WHAT IS ON JONESVILLE ROAD IS SINGLE FAMILY. 
          THERE ARE POCKETS OF WHAT IS NOW CONSIDERED MULTI-FAMILY BECAUSE WE CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF SINGLE FAMILY TO BE ONE DWELLING UNIT ON ONE LOT. 
          UH, AND NOW MULTIFAMILY IS TWO, UH, OR MORE DWELLING UNITS ON ONE LOT. 
          UM, THAT'S WHY INCORPORATING FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS OF IMPORTANCE IS BECAUSE IT WOULD ALLOW MOST OF WHAT IS WOULD BECOME A NONCONFORMITY, UH, TO REMAIN AS A CONFORMING USE. 
          NOW IT WILL STILL CREATE SOME SMALL POCKETS OF NONCONFORMITIES, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE, UH, A FEW MULTIFAMILY, UH, SPOTS THAT, THAT ARE NOT NATIVE ISLAND. 
          AND THE LAST QUESTION WITH REGARD TO WHAT'S BEST FOR JONESVILLE ROAD, UM, AND THAT IS WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON DISTRICT PLANS. 
          THERE WERE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS. 
          SO WHAT DID THE DRAFT DISTRICT PLAN FOR THE JONESVILLE ROAD AREA? AND I APOLOGIZE IF I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE APPROPRIATE TITLE FOR THE DISTRICT PLAN, BUT WHAT IS THE DISTRICT PLAN, THE DRAFT DISTRICT PLAN SAY ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE ZONING AND DENSITY IN JONESVILLE ROAD? I WAS NOT PART OF THOSE. 
          YOU YEAH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          UM, REALLY THE, THE SCOPE OF THE DISTRICT PLANS REMAINS AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL. 
          UM, PART OF THAT WAS NOT A, A, YOU KNOW, GRANULAR ANALYSIS OF THE DENSITIES 
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THERE. 
          IT'S MORE NOTING THE CONCERNS AND MOVING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE LMO CHANGES. 
          WHAT DID THE COMMUNITY SAY ABOUT THE DENSITY IN THE AREA AND THE USES IN THE AREA? DID THEY NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT? WHEN WE, WHEN WE CONDUCTED THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, WE HEARD LOUD VOICES OF CONCERN OVER THE MASS AND SCALE OF DEVELOPMENTS, THE CHARACTER OF DEVELOPMENTS, SPECIFICALLY, UM, THE ALLOWANCE OF TOWN HOMES IN THE, IN THE JONESVILLE AREA. 
          UM, THE, THE INTENSITY OF THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE OCCURRING WITH SUCH LOT SMALL LOT SIZES AND SMALLER HOMES. 
          SO PART OF WHAT WE WILL DO IN MOVING THIS FORWARD IS DO MORE ANALYSIS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE ULTIMATELY RECOMMEND IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THAT AREA. 
          SO A SLIDING SCALE MENTIONED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THE SLIDING SCALE CAME UP VERY SPECIFICALLY. 
          UH, BECAUSE IT, BECAUSE IT CREATED, BECAUSE IT CREATED SORRY, WE, SORRY, WHAT'S LEAKING? CONDENSATION? NO. 
          CONDENSATION. 
          CONDENSATION. 
          HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT, UM, FIRE SUPPRESSION HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE YEAH, MAYBE WE OUGHT PARTICULAR LOG, MAYBE OUGHT TO TAKE A MOMENT. 
          LET FOLKS RE YEAH, ELL AND THE CEILING'S LEAKING. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          EVERYONE CLEAR? YOU FIND A BUCKET TRASH CAN BUT TO, TO BETTER, UM, ANSWER THAT MS. BRYSON. 
          THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE DISTRICT PLAN ARE TO FURTHER ANALYZE THE ZONING CHANGES THAT ARE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THOSE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED CONCERNS FROM THAT AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, MR. CARSONS, THANK YOU. 
          I I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A GENERAL STATEMENT FOR US. 
          WE START LOOKING AT THESE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS IS THAT THERE'S SOME VERY CLEAR THINGS SUCH AS MULTIFAMILY VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY. 
          UH, BUT I DO KNOW GOING FROM RM FOUR TO R THIS OTHER DISTRICT ELIMINATES SOME PERMITTED CONDITIONAL USES, ESPECIALLY SOME COMMERCIAL USES. 
          CAN YOU EXPLAIN, OBVIOUSLY A PERMITTED USES OF BUYRIGHT AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MET WITHIN THE LMO FOR THE CONDITIONAL ONES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WITH SOME OF THE LAND USE AMENDMENTS OF, OF THESE PERMITTED CONDITIONAL USES, SUCH AS THE COMMERCIAL, THE OPEN AIR SALES OR SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS PERPETUATING? OR IS IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRULY, UH, A, A CHANGE IN THE ZONING AND OBVIOUSLY ELIMINATING SOME OF THESE CONDITIONAL USE, THESE CONDITIONAL USE. 
          YOU WANNA TALK GENERALLY ABOUT, I IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND OBVIOUSLY GIVING US A BRIEF OVERVIEW. 
          OBVIOUSLY THE P VERSUS PC, IT SHOWS UP ON THE NEXT SLIDE A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY. 
          IF, IF FOLKS HAVE QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, THE P VERSUS PC, UH, AND OBVIOUSLY SE S SPECIAL EXEMPTIONS, I'LL REVIEW WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          SO PERMITTED WOULD BE A, A BUY RIGHT USE. 
          YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MEET ANY CONDITIONS. 
          YOU HAVE A PROPERTY IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT. 
          YOU CAN BUILD WHATEVER USE IS PERMITTED OR, OR P UH, PERMITTED WITH CONDITIONS. 
          THERE ARE CERTAIN USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO MEET, UM, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO, FOR THAT TO BECOME A BUYRIGHT USE ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          FOR EXAMPLE. 
          UM, OUTDOOR COMMERCIAL RECREATION OTHER THAN WATER PARKS REQUIRES, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS FOR THAT IS THAT YOU MUST BE ON, HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO A MINOR ARTERIAL IF YOU DO NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO A MINOR ARTERIAL. 
          UM, AND, AND FOR REFERENCE, THOSE ARE LIKE ARROW ROAD, UH, UM, NEW ORLEANS, UM, BEACH CITY ROAD. 
          UM, THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF, OF ROADS ARE, ARE MINOR ARTERIALS. 
          YOU COULD, THAT IS NOT A BUYRIGHT USE ON YOUR PROPERTY AT THAT POINT. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR TABLE IN THE BACK, YOUR PRINCIPAL USE TABLE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT THAT THE USE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ARE OUTLINED IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          AND YOU WOULD CROSS REFERENCE TO THE ORDINANCE TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THOSE, UM, PERMITTED WITH CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND PROVIDING THAT CLARITY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          NEXT I HAD MR. WCO. 
          YES, I HAD A QUESTION. 
          UM, THIS GOES TO TREY. 
          TREY, YOU INDICATED THAT 
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YOU'VE BEEN HEARING THE MOST FROM THE AREAS THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING. 
          AND WHAT I'M WONDERING IS WHO, WHO IS, UM, MAKING THE COMMENTS? IS IT DEVELOPERS OR IS IT LANDOWNERS? WHICH IS IT RESIDENTS? IT'S NOT JUST ONE GROUP. 
          IT'S IT, OH, SORRY, MY MICROPHONE WAS OFF. 
          SORRY. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST ONE GROUP TYPICALLY IN, IN, IN THIS AREA. 
          IT IS THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA, UH, THAT HAVE THE MOST CONCERN WITH THE WAY THAT IT IS, UH, BEING DEVELOPED. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MS. CAMPBELL, UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THE FIVE, IF YOU KNOW THIS, HOW MANY OF THE FIVE ACRE TRACKS ARE LEFT IN THE JONESVILLE AREA WHERE YOU'D BE ABLE TO BILL EIGHT DWELLINGS PER UNIT? UM, THAT WOULD, THAT IS BUILDABLE. 
          AND DOES THAT HAVE TO BE ALL TOGETHER? UH, I ASSUME THE FIVE ACRES HAS TO BE ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT? THAT IS A DEFINITIVE ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS, YES. 
          AND DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MORE OF THOSE TRACKS WE HAVE LEFT THERE? OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DO NOT HAVE THAT ANSWER. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE A, A MAP IN THE SLIDE SHOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. 
          IT'S TOWARDS THE END. 
          UM, AND YOU CAN KINDA GET FOR REFERENCE ON SOME OF THE LARGER TRACKS IN THERE. 
          THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR, UM, THAT I KNOW OF. 
          UH, THE OTHERS MAY BE AT THREE. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST FOR, JUST, JUST ALSO FOR REFERENCE, SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SLIDING SCALE, UH, RIGHT NOW THERE IS A PORTION OF THAT MISSING OUT OF, IF WE GO BACK A SLIDE. 
          SO IT'S UH, FOUR DIS DENSITY UNITS PER NET ACRE. 
          IF THE LOT AREA IS LESS THAN THREE ACRES, IF IT'S THREE ACRES OR UP TO FIVE ACRES, YOU CAN HAVE SIX DENSITY UNITS OR DWELLING UNITS, UH, PER NET ACRE. 
          AND IF, IF IT'S FIVE PLUS, THEN IT TRIGGERS THE EIGHT DWELLING UNITS PER NET ACRE. 
          SO THERE IS A, A LITTLE BIT MISSING OUT OF THERE, BUT IT'S OKAY BETWEEN FOUR AND EIGHT, THAT WAS. 
          SO I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S LEFT BETWEEN 3 0 3 AND ABOVE REALLY. 
          OKAY. 
          IF WE COULD PLEASE ANSWER THAT. 
          YES, WE DEFINITELY WILL WES PROVIDE THAT. 
          UM, WE DID DO AN ANALYSIS OF THE AVERAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND BASED ON THE PARCEL SIZE AND THE SLIDING SCALE, THE RESULTING AVERAGE WAS 6.5, WHICH WOULD SIGNIFY FEWER LARGER LOTS THAN NOT. 
          BUT WE WILL GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER. 
          AND THEN FOR THE STABLES, WHAT WOULD THAT, WHAT WOULD A HORSE STABLE BE? UM, UH, SEEN AS, LIKE, IS THAT A RECREATIONAL USE? IS THAT A EDUCATIONAL USE? TYPICALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE OF AN AGRICULTURAL USE THAT'S AGRICULTURAL. 
          IS THAT, WOULD THAT STILL BE ALLOWED? UH, YES. 
          I, YES. 
          AGRICULTURE. 
          SO AN R SF FIVE OTHER USES ARE AGRICULTURE AND MARINAS, BOAT DOCKS AND CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER, UH, PART OF THAT ONE. 
          OH, BOAT RAMPS, DOCKING FACILITIES AND MARINAS. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AGRICULTURAL USES ARE, WOULD STILL BE T IN THE RSF THREE? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LET'S SEE. 
          I HAD, UH, WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE LIGHTS GOING ON AND OFF. 
          , YOU'RE TRYING TO ISOLATE THE AREA, SO JUST BEAR WITH US. 
          UH, MRNA, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I HAVE A QUESTION RELATIVE TO THE PERMITTED. 
          OKAY, LET ME, LET ME GET, I'M GONNA GET TO THE FOLKS THAT HAVE THEIR, UM, ARE YOU GOOD? OKAY. 
          UM, MR. STEVENS. 
          AND THEN, UM, AND THEN WE'LL COME TO YOU, MR. STEVENS. 
          YES. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, IF YOU'RE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IN WHICH RM FOUR, THAT'S WHAT'S CURRENT AND YOU'RE REDUCING IT DOWN TO THREE UNITS PER ACRE, UM, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE RESIDENTS THERE AS FAR AS THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY AND, UM, ARE THEY BEING COMPENSATED FOR THOSE LOSSES OR WHAT? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE OF, OF THE IMPACT OF GOING FROM FOUR UNITS TO THREE UNITS PER ACRE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DISTRICT IN RSF. 
          SO TYPICALLY, AND I'M, I'M NOT AN APPRAISER, , UM, BUT TYPICALLY APPRAISALS ARE, ARE BASED OFF OF, UM, THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO IF IT'S AN EXISTING HOME, UM, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GIVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO 
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THAT QUESTION. 
          IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE MORE OF A CHANGE FOR, UM, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FROM A DENSITY STANDPOINT. 
          SO IF YOU HAD, LIKE MS. CAMPBELL'S QUESTION EARLIER, IF YOU HAVE A VACANT LOT, IT WOULD CHANGE THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL IN THE FUTURE. 
          THE VALUE WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED. 
          I'M NOT, IT'S A, THE VALUATION IS A COMPLEX, UH, YEAH, I I UNDERSTAND IT'S COMPLEX QUESTION. 
          IT'S A COMPLEX PROCESS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE IS SOME LOSS OF VALUE TO RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. 
          AND, AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS OF CONCERN. 
          UH, BUT OVERALL WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST OUTCOME, YOU KNOW, FOR THE GREATER GOOD. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          OF COURSE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          YOU BRING THAT UP. 
          UM, WE CAN'T SPECULATE ON PROPERTY VALUE IMPACTS, UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE, THAT'S NOT OUR FORTE. 
          BUT, UM, WOULD IT HAVE IT, IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE IMPACTS ON PROPERTY VALUES TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY AND, AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OUT OF CHARACTER WITHIN AN AREA CAN ALSO HAVE IMPACTS ON A, ON VALUE OF PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY, IT IS A VERY COMPLEX QUESTION. 
          UM, MS. BENNETT, I'M GONNA, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A POLISH PENSKI YESKI, UH, I, I CAN READ THE, THE MAP, THE USE MAP, BUT ONE PAGE IS PRINTED ONE WAY, THE NEXT PAGE IS PRINTED UPSIDE DOWN , IF YOU CAN CORRECT THAT. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS WHEN YOU TALK THAT I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PERMITTED USES, UH, IF THAT THE, THE SPECIFIC USE CONDITIONS, UH, YOU'RE REFERRING ME TO ZONING TABLES THAT I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO RIGHT. 
          CURRENTLY. 
          SO I, IT'S SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT. 
          I KNOW THEY'RE PROBABLY IN THAT BOOK. 
          UH, BUT IT, IT OCCURS TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN I LOOK AT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING ONE. 
          UH, WHY WOULD, WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS RELATIVE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IN IF YOU CHANGE TO, UH, WORK HOUSING HAS CONDITIONS AND IN THE CORRECT. 
          CAN WORKFORCE HOUSING BE SINGLE FAMILY? CAN IT CORRECT? I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S, WE'RE NOT WAYS IN WHICH THAT CAN HAPPEN. 
          WE ADDED WORKFORCE HOUSING AS A USE SO THAT IT WOULD, SO THAT WE COULD ADD INCENTIVES FOR DOING WORKFORCE HOUSING THERE. 
          NOT EVERY ZONING DISTRICT HAS WORKFORCE HOUSING LISTED AS A USE. 
          THAT IS NOT SAYING THAT A DEVELOPER CANNOT DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT. 
          THAT'S JUST SAYING THAT THE WORKFORCE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS, WHETHER IT BE FOR, UH, RM FOUR, RM 12 OR THE CONVERSION DENSITY BONUS WHEN YOU CONVERT A NON-RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE TO A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WOULD APPLY. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY ANYBODY'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT AREA. 
          NOW, UH, WOULD IT BE MULTIFAMILY THAT WOULD THAT'S THE QUESTION. 
          IT, 'CAUSE WE WOULD BE ELIMINATING MULTIFAMILY USE, UH, IF WE MOVE TO A SIMPLE R SF THREE DISTRICT. 
          WELL, IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING WHAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S, BUT WORKFORCE HOUSING IN SOME INSTANCES WOULD BE  AS YOU MAKE THE CHANGE. 
          SO SINGLE FAMILY, YOU WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE INCENTIVES OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM IN THIS DISTRICT ANY LONGER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I SORRY, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          MR. PRESS, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE, UH, TASK FORCE. 
          ARE ANY, ARE YOU ALL FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA? AND IS ANYBODY DRIVEN DOWN JONESVILLE ROAD RECENTLY? I LIVE THERE. 
          I DO TOO. 
          IT, IT'S DEVASTATING. 
           AND I CAME TO, UH, A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS REALLY BEGGING FOR RELIEF FOR, UH, JONESVILLE. 
          UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, REAL ESTATE VALUES, IT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED, UH, TO OUR BEAUTIFUL LITTLE COMMUNITY IS 
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SHOCKING. 
          , UH, AS A RESIDENT OF, UH, JONESVILLE ROAD, UM, THERE WAS A, AN EVENT AT THE HORSE BARN AND, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE WHAT ALL WAS, UH, ALL THE CONTENT, WHAT WAS ASKED. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF POLLING OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND, UH, NO ONE'S, NO ONE THAT I KNOW IS, IS PLEASED WITH WHAT'S OCCURRED ON JONESVILLE. 
          I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO TAKE A DRIVE. 
          IT WILL TAKE YOUR BREATH AWAY. 
          THANK YOU MS. PRICE, SAYING THAT I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          UM, THAT'S WHY I GUESS I KEPT ASKING THE QUESTION, WHAT'S BEST FOR JONESVILLE ROAD? ASKING THE STAFF AND ASKING ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAD SAID ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I KNOW, SORRY, MY LIGHT WENT OFF. 
          I DIDN'T SEE IT. 
          UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THAT'S WHY I KEPT ASKING THE QUESTION, WHAT'S BEST FOR JONESVILLE ROAD BECAUSE I, I KNOW STAFF IS CONCERNED, HAS BEEN OUT THERE AND, AND LOOKED AT IT. 
          BUT IT HELPS TO HAVE THAT PLANNING OPINION. 
          UM, BUT I, I ALSO WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THE USE QUESTION THAT MS. BAZINSKY ASKED. 
          UM, AND THAT IS, IF IT'S NOT A, A USE LISTED IN THE TABLE, WOULDN'T THAT BE A CHALLENGE FOR, LET'S SAY I ESTABLISHED A PATSY NONPROFIT CORPORATION AND I WANTED TO BUILD SOME SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          AND THEN SOMEONE SAYS, WAIT, WAIT A MINUTE. 
          IT'S NOT IN THE, THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES. 
          WOULDN'T THAT BE A PROBLEM FOR ME? SO SHOULDN'T IT, IF IT'S GOING TO BE A PERMITTED USE OR A, A USE, UH, PERMITTED WITH CONDITIONS, SHOULDN'T IT BE INCLUDED IN THE USE TABLE AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, I'M BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND BY THE WAY, THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKFORCE AGAIN. 
          I GO AHEAD. 
          OH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE I SAY ALL DISCUSSION AND, AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. 
          WHEN WE GET, WHEN WE FINALIZE THESE MEETINGS, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A DRAFT. 
          AND IF WHAT WE HAVE ARE LOOKING AT DOES NOT MEET EVERYBODY'S, UH, IF WE CAN'T GAIN CONSENSUS OFF OF THAT, THAT'S WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. 
          SO WE ARE TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE, AS WE TALK. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE'RE HEARING, THIS IS HOW WE CAN FIX IT. 
          SIMPLE. 
          BUT IS IT THAT SIMPLE? SO THAT'S WHAT THE DISCUSSION'S ABOUT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT, THIS IS ALL YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. 
          THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE BELABOR EVERY ITEM AND BEAT IT LIKE A DEAD HORSE. 
          WE JUST NEED TO GIVE OUR SUGGESTIONS. 
          WE NEED TO SEE IF WE HAVE A CONSENSUS. 
          AND WHEN THIS, WHEN YOU FORMULATE YOUR, YOUR FINAL PRODUCT, ALL THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          I MEAN, THAT WE, WE DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS TO, WHAT DOES A HOUSE APPRAISE FOR AT THIS MEETING? I MEAN, FOR A PROPERTY. 
          SO, I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND IT, AND IT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED. 
          BUT THOSE KIND OF THINGS WE JUST, WE JUST, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO US. 
          UM, MR. ALSCO, SINCE WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANY, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S FINE WITH ME. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THE AIR CONDITION KEEPS BLOWING MY, UH, NAME PLATE ALL AROUND. 
          UM, THREE, JUST CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. 
          UM, ONE I'M ASSUMING, 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CARVE OUT JUST UNIQUE IDEAS FOR JONESVILLE WITH THIS, I'M ASSUMING, YOU KNOW, THE RS F THREE IS A GENERALIZED, UM, UH, ZONE FOR EVERYTHING OUT THERE. 
          SO LIKE IF WE PULLED SOMETHING OVER, IT WOULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT EVERY OTHER RSF THREE IF WE JUST DID IT ZONE TO ZONE, RIGHT. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S ACCURATE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, SECOND QUESTION IS, HOW DOES THE TOWN DEFINE MULTIFAMILY? IS THAT AS LIKE A LARGE SINGLE LOT WITH MULTIPLE UNITS IN IT? IS IT LIKE WALL TO WALL TOWN HOMES ON SEPARATE LOTS? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, UH, MULTIFAMILY LOOKS LIKE. 
          'CAUSE I COULD LOOK AT IT AS LIKE A LARGE 140 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          I CAN ALSO LOOK AT IT AS, UM, EIGHT UNITS IN A ROW WITH COMMON WALLS. 
          BUT HOW DOES THE TOWN LOOK AT MULTIFAMILY? GOT THE DEFINITION RIGHT HERE FROM, FROM THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE PERSPECTIVE, A MULTIFAMILY IS TWO OR MORE DWELLING UNITS ON A SINGLE LOT. 
          OKAY. 
          DWELLING. 
          I CAN, I'LL GIVE YOU THE, I MEAN, I'VE GOT THE DEFINITION OF MULTIFAMILY RIGHT HERE. 
          SURE. 
          THE MULTIFAMILY DEFINITION IN THE CODE IS A BUILDING PARCEL OR DEVELOPMENT CONTAINING TWO OR MORE DWELLING UNITS. 
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THIS USE INCLUDES TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENTS IF ALL UNITS ARE ON ONE LOT AND MANUFACTURED HOUSING PARKS. 
          SO THAT'S THE DEFINITION IN THE CODE CURRENTLY FOR MULTIFAMILY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT A TON OF DENSITY ON, ON THESE LOTS, BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SOMETIMES DOING THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, TACTFUL, THOUGHTFUL, YOU KNOW, 2, 3, 4 UNIT STRUCTURES ON A LOT, VERSUS HAVING TO MAKE 'EM ALL SINGLE FAMILY, IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR A DEVELOPER TO, UH, DO THAT WITH COST OR IT MIGHT SUIT A CERTAIN AREA. 
          SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN IDEA IN MY MIND ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THE MASKING OF THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, AND I DON'T MEAN TO JUMP AHEAD, I'M NOT DOING IT AND IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO JONESVILLE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE ITEMS HERE ABOUT DOWNSHIFTING FROM RM TO RF RSF. 
          AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THAT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT SHORT TERM RENTALS IN TERMS OF A USE WITHIN THAT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL USES ARE DICTATED AND DETERMINED, REGULATED THROUGH THE SEPARATE ORDINANCE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? CURRENTLY, UM, HOWEVER, AS I ALLUDED TO EARLIER, UM, THAT IS AN ITEM THAT WE WILL DISCUSS FOR THE USE TABLE, UH, AT, AT OR FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          MOST LIKELY, HOPEFULLY NEXT MEETING. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          WE'LL SEE. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOWNSHIFTING HOW IT IMPACTS THE, THE INDUSTRY I REPRESENT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND, AND ALSO JUST BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM HIS QUESTION, JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT HE MEANT BY HIS FIRST QUESTION WAS IF WE, IF WE SIMPLY CHANGE IT TO R SF FIVE OR R SF THREE, I APOLOGIZE. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT CHANGING A ZONING DISTRICT. 
          IF WE ADD USES TO AN EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT, RSFR SF THREE, IT WILL POTENTIALLY HAVE CHANGES IN OTHER AREAS. 
          UH, R SF THREE IS, UH, NORTH, OR I'M SORRY, SOUTH FOREST BEACH AREA. 
          UH, FOR REFERENCE IS, IS R SF THREE? SO THAT'S JUST, THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. 
          IT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE CHANGES TO OTHER AREAS OF THE ISLAND, NOT JUST THERE IF WE MADE CHANGES TO THE ACTUAL ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO JUST ONE MORE POINT, AND THEN I'LL GET TO YOU, MS. BECKER, AND WE'LL COME AROUND HERE. 
          BUT THIS RELATES BACK TO MS. CAMPBELL'S QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT THE FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND THE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. 
          AGAIN, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE DISCUSSED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. 
          UM, THAT IF THE DESIRE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION, THAT HOWEVER YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT FAMILY COMPOUND AND FAMILY SUBDIVISION PIECE IN THERE SPECIFIC TO JONESVILLE ROAD, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONLY THROUGH THE ZONING. 
          SO REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR US TO RECEIVE FROM THE TASK FORCE IS WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE? SO IF THE, IF THE DESIRE OF THE TASK FORCE IS, YES, WE DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO CHANGE THE AREA IN JONESVILLE ROAD FROM, UH, MULTIFAMILY TO SINGLE FAMILY, BUT TO ALSO KEEP THE FAMILY COMPOUND AND SUBDIVISION. 
          THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US. 
          SO WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GET TOO BOGGED DOWN IN THE MECHANICS, BUT WE ALSO DO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE RIPPLE EFFECTS THAT HAPPEN IF SOMETHING IS CHANGED FROM A USE STANDPOINT IN A DISTRICT, BECAUSE IT, THAT USE THEN, UM, APPLIES TO ANY PARCEL THAT HAS THAT ZONING DISTRICT. 
          MS. BECKER, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN SUCH GREAT CONVERSATION, SUCH GREAT DISCUSSION. 
          I WANNA THANK EVERYONE, UM, FOR ALL OF THAT. 
          AND HOPEFULLY SOME OF THIS WILL, UM, I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF NOTES HERE, SO I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST. 
          UM, COUNCILWOMAN BRYSON MENTIONED WHAT'S BEST FOR JONESVILLE. 
          AND, UM, WE HEARD FROM FROM TREY THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS AND THERE WAS, UM, CORRECTLY POINTED OUT, UM, THAT THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AT THE STABLES WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK GIVEN ALL TO ALL OF THAT POINTED TO THE DIRECTION OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN UP HERE THAT STAFF TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION AS THEY WERE PUTTING THIS CHART TOGETHER. 
          BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS I HEARD IS THAT EVERY ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE, EVERY ONE OF MEMBERS OF THE, UM, COMMUNITY OUGHT TO DRIVE DOWN JONESVILLE ROAD. 
          SEE IT FOR YOURSELF, ESPECIALLY THOSE FOLKS ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          I'LL REFERENCE BACK TO 2014 WHEN A SIMILAR COMMITTEE MADE A DECISION TO REZONE AN AREA CALLED BRADLEY CIRCLE, WHICH ISN'T A CIRCLE AT ALL. 
          IN FACT, IT'S A HORSESHOE WITH ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT, VERY SIMILAR TO JONESVILLE ROAD. 
          AND ADMITTED THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THEN 
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ADMITTED LATER WHEN THEY REALIZED IT WAS A MISTAKE THAT THEY HAD NEVER DRIVEN INTO BRADLEY CIRCLE AND HAD NO IDEA THE IMPACT THEIR DECISION WOULD MAKE. 
          PLEASE DRIVE DOWN JONESVILLE ROAD AND SEE IT FOR YOURSELF. 
          WHAT'S BEST FOR JONESVILLE IS WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THUS FAR. 
          THERE'LL BE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 
          CERTAINLY THE QUESTION CAME UP WITH REGARD TO WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          TREY, YOU GAVE AN EXCELLENT ANSWER. 
          I JUST WANNA GO BACK AND HIGHLIGHT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE SOME CONFUSION MAY BE SITTING TO PATSY'S TO COUNCILWOMAN BRYSON'S. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          THAT IF SHE WANTED TO CREATE A NONPROFIT AND, AND BUILD HOMES BACK THERE AND DEDICATE THEM TO WORKFORCE HOUSING, SHE'S CERTAINLY FREE TO DO THAT. 
          THE DIFFERENCE BECOMES WHEN YOU COME TO THE GOVERNMENT AND ASK THEM TO INTERVENE IN SOME WAY, WHETHER IT'S WITH INCREASED DENSITY OR SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE OR, OR ANY NUMBER OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          BUT IT'S THE QUESTION OF ASKING GOVERNMENT TO INTERVENE THAT TRIGGERS WHAT THIS IS REFERRING TO UP HERE. 
          WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          BUT IF SOMEONE WANTED TO TAKE THEIR LAND AND BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S AFFORDABLE AND THEY WANTED TO SAY, I'M GOING TO RENT IT TO WITH, TO WHOMEVER, AND THEN CONSIDER IT IN THEIR, THEIR WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, CONTRIBUTION, AS LONG AS THEY'D ASK, DON'T ASK FOR GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION, THEY'RE FREE TO DO THAT. 
          SO I HOPE THAT'S THE DISTINCTION AND THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR FOR ANYONE. 
          NO ONE'S TAKING A WAY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE TO DELL DEVELOP WORKFORCE HOUSING AS THEY SEE FIT. 
          IT JUST GETS TRIGGERED DIFFERENTLY IF YOU ASK THE GOVERNMENT FOR HELP. 
          SO THERE'S THAT. 
          THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT FOR EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM OR LISTENING OR WHO LIVES ON HILTON HEAD, WHO WORKS. 
          ISN'T YOUR HOUSE WORKFORCE HOUSING ? JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 
          UM, SO, SO THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, I, I WON'T, I WON'T GO ON AND ON, BUT I DO WANNA MENTION THAT JONESVILLE ROAD, AGAIN, I WANNA HIGHLIGHT IT'S ONE WAY IN, IT'S ONE WAY OUT. 
          IT'S A HISTORIC AREA. 
          THE IDEA HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW THAT WE ARE GONNA PRESERVE THOSE HISTORIC AREAS. 
          IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HIGHEST AND BEST USES OR INCREASED DENSITIES TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW A MULTITUDE OF THINGS THAT CURRENTLY ARE ALLOWED, HOW ARE WE PRESERVING THAT AREA OR NOT? AND I'LL ANSWER IT 'CAUSE I FEEL FIRM ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT PRESERVATION, THAT'S NOT PROTECTION OF CULTURAL AND HISTORY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU, UH, MR. CARSTENS. 
          UM, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, IN REGARDS TO THIS, UH, POINT OF DISCUSSION, UM, YES, JONESVILLE ROAD IS A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY AREA. 
          UM, I WILL SAY I, I HAVE ACCESS TO LOOKING AT GIS WITH BEAVER COUNTY. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PARCELS OWNED BY THE TOWN, AND ONE OF 'EM WAS ONE OF THE LARGER ONES. 
          UH, SO IT'S A, IT COULD BE A COMFORT THERE. 
          UM, AND I WILL SAY TO THAT, UH, CHANGING TO R SF THREE IS IF YOU WANT AN EXAMPLE OF DENSITY THAT THE TOWN CURRENT HAS UNDER ZONING IS POINT COMFORT. 
          SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT POINT COMFORT AS FAR AS THE DENSITY IN A MASS OF HOMES, THAT RIGHT NOW IS ZONED RSF THREE FOR THE TOWN. 
          SO, UH, MR. MCMACKIN, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS, UH, MIKE'S SECOND QUESTION EARLIER WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT TOWNHOUSES AND JUST GET A CONFIRMATION, BUT I THINK IT'S A PRETTY STANDARD OR PREVIOUS PRACTICE ON HILTON HEAD TO ALLOW TOWNHOUSES TO, UM, BE, UH, SUBDIVIDED LOTS AS FEE SIMPLE THAT WOULD EXIST UNDERNEATH EACH TOWNHOUSE. 
          SO YOU COULD HAVE A MUL, YOU KNOW, A STRING OF TOWNHOUSES THAT WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DWELLING ON A SINGLE LOT, UM, THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE RF. 
          UM, THE THREE RSF THREE, IS THAT CORRECT? UNDER THE MULTIFAMILY DESIGNATION? SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FEE SIMPLE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ITS OWN DESIGNATED LOT, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS A SHARED WALL, WE DID MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS TO OUR ZERO LOT LINE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS. 
          IT DID NOT ELIMINATE THAT, UM, THAT SCENARIO. 
          SO YES, IT COULD. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BUT TECHNICALLY A, A TOWN HOME IS A TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE A HIGHER DENSITY THAN THREE UNITS PER ACRE. 
          SO THAT'S, YEAH, IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY CANCEL IT OUT. 
          SO, AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE TASK FORCE, BUT I HAVE TO LEAVE, I HAVE TO COACH 
          [01:20:01]
A RECREATION BASKETBALL PLAYOFF GAME. 
          . 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          , AND I'M GONNA GO WITH HIM. 
          I GOTTA GO TO THE JAZZ CORNER. 
          , DENISE STAND. 
          LET'S SEE WHERE WE STAND. 
          YES, WE WILL. 
          I'M GONNA GET MS. CAMPBELL AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SEE WHERE WE STAND. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JUST QUICKLY, I WANTED TO KNOW, UH, IF YOU COULD GIVE ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAMILY COMPOUND, FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND MULTIFAMILY. 
          LIKE, 'CAUSE SO, SO A FA SO FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS, IS A SUB, IS A SUBDIVISION, BUT IT'S DONE BY SOMEONE WHO HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY, UH, SINCE 1956, OR OWNED PROPERTY ON THE ISLAND SINCE 1956. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE IN A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, A NATIVE, IT'S, IT'S, UH, MEANT FOR NATIVE ISLANDERS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE COMPOUND WOULD BE A MULTIFAMILY, UM, SCENARIO. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I SAY WHAT THE SAME, RIGHT. 
          SO IT WOULD BE MULTIPLE DWELLINGS ON ONE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          SIMILAR TO MULTIFAMILY. 
          AND MULTIFAMILY, AGAIN, IS TWO DWELLING UNITS, UH, OR MORE ON, ON ONE PARCEL. 
          OKAY. 
          I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAD THAT CORRECT. 
          THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THAT IT WAS I IMPORTED TO ADD THAT IN THERE OR, OR DISCUSS ADDING THAT IN THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          AND YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MULTIFAMILY CLEAR? YEAH. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW YOU, YOU DESCRIBED WHAT MULTIFAMILY WAS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, OF THE DIFFERENCE OR THE SIM SIMILARITY OF THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE, AND OR FAMILY COMPOUND SUBDIVISION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MR. JOHNSON, BECAUSE YOU DID HAVE YOUR CARD UP EARLIER, AND THEN I PROMISE WE'LL MOVE TO VOTE . 
          YES, SIR. 
          WELL, IT WAS, UH, YES, SIR. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON A COMMENT. 
          MS UM, BECKER MADE ABOUT THE EXERCISE OF DRIVING THROUGH JONESVILLE. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE FOR US TO DRIVE THROUGH ALL OF THE, THE COMMUNITIES THAT'S IMPACTED BY THIS BECAUSE WE'RE ASKED TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS LMO ABOUT WE MAY BE ASKED TO MAKE DECISIONS ON, ON THIS LMO ABOUT COMMUNITIES WE'RE NOT EVEN FAMILIAR WITH. 
          SO I THINK BE A GOOD EXERCISE NOW, LEMME JUST DRIVE THROUGH, BUT HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND SEE, GET THEIR OPINION, UM, SO THAT WE CAN BE BETTER INFORMED AS WE SIT AROUND THIS TABLE. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ARE GOING TO SEE WHERE WE ARE. 
          SO I THINK WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, AGAIN, THIS IS TO GET A TEMPERATURE OF THE ROOM. 
          YES. 
          I CAN LIVE WITH IT, NO. 
          OR UNDECIDED. 
           OH, NO, NO, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, QUICKLY, IF ANYONE IS WILLING TO SHARE, AND IT'S UP TO YOU IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO IS WILLING TO SHARE WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, WE COULD PROVIDE TO, UM, EITHER OR IF YOU HAVE A SUGGESTED ALTERNATIVE, IF YOU ARE AN UNDECIDED OR A NO, IF YOU HAVE A SUGGESTED ALTERNATIVE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU DON'T LIKE OR IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP YOU TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SHARE THAT HERE, THAT'S GREAT. 
          IF NOT, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO EMAIL THAT LATER, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I, I VOTED UNDECIDED JUST BECAUSE I WANNA DRIVE THROUGH THE AREA AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT, JUST SO I KNOW WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SEEING. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANKS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, HOW DO, IT SEEMS TO ME POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 
          YOU'RE SAYING THAT THERE COULD BE, UH, SOUND LIKE FAMILY COMPOUNDS WERE SP SPOKEN ABOUT MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          THERE'S A WAY TO ENTER THAT INTO AN ALLOWABLE USE IN THAT AREA WITHOUT AFFECTING, SAY, ANOTHER RSF THREE AREA. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT IS WHAT WE, 
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OF COURSE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY. 
          WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE, BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION, THIS WILL HELP US WITH THAT FRAMEWORK. 
          SO IT, THE INTENTION WOULD BE TO TRY NOT TO AFFECT OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO WORK ON THE FRAMEWORK FOR THAT IS, IS BASED ON THE DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD TODAY. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS TASK FORCE, IF WE MOVE FORWARD THAT RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE THAT. 
          BECAUSE IF IT IS, THAT'S SOME, THAT'S ANOTHER LAYER THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER. 
          I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT IN THIS DISTRICT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MR. BROWN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M UNDECIDED AS WELL AND FOR SIMILAR REASON. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ARE THEY CLEAR CUT. 
          ONE SIDE, UH, THERE'S, SO AGAIN, THERE'S MULTIPLE STRATEGIES. 
          THERE ARE OVERLAY DISTRICTS THAT CAN BE USED. 
          THERE'S NEW ZONING DISTRICTS THAT CAN BE USED. 
          SO THERE'S DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THAT COULD BE USED TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A NUMBER OF GOALS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SURE. 
          YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MS. CAMPBELL, I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I WISH THAT THIS TASK FORCE HAD HAPPENED BEFORE EVERYTHING HAPPENED ON JONESVILLE. 
          UM, AND I ASKED SPECIFICALLY, HOW MUCH IS LEFT? 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO EVEN REALLY BUILD ON. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, PART OF ME IS LIKE, WELL, WHAT ARE WE REALLY, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE RESTRICTING? BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO BUILD ON. 
          UM, BUT OTHERWISE, ALSO, AS, AS MR. STEVENS SAID, I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE WAY BEFORE ANY OF US MOVED TO JONESVILLE 'CAUSE I MOVED THERE, BUT I'M STILL A HISTORIC, YOU KNOW, UH, RESIDENT. 
          BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO, TO AWAY RIGHTS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          SO THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX ANSWER AND I, YOU KNOW, AND I, I WAS HERE SAYING BEFORE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT ON THOSE LOTS, OR THAT LAND THAT WAS CLEAR CUTTED SAYING, HEY, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING? BUT IT'S DONE. 
          AND WE HAVE TO ALSO TAKE THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, IN INTO OUR THOUGHTS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOR WAY LONGER WHEN IT WAS A DIRT ROAD, YOU KNOW, NOT TO TAKE AWAY THEIR RIGHTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MR. DIX, MAYBE IT MAY BE DONE, BUT COULD ALSO BE REDEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND TOO. 
          EXCELLENT POINT. 
          EXCELLENT POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          ROBUST DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON, UM, TO OUR NEXT TOPIC. 
          SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GET. 
          IT'S SIX 30. 
          OH, IT'S SIX 30. 
          I THOUGHT IT A SIX. 
          . 
          UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE IT? IT'S SIX 30, WOULD YOU? YEAH, I WAS, I'M, I WAS ACTUALLY QUITE SURPRISED. 
          I WAS JUST TELLING MS, UM, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? . 
          MS. BECKER . 
          I WAS JUST TELLING MS. BECKER HOW SURPRISED I WAS THAT 60% OF THE PEOPLE KIND OF EITHER SAID YES OR, OR I CAN LIVE WITH IT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT ONE HOUR DISCUSSION, I, I WASN'T SURE WHAT WE WERE GONNA GET , BUT THAT WAS A LITTLE ENCOURAGING. 
          WELL, THAT'S, IT'S A HELPFUL TOOL, . 
          YEAH. 
          I LIKE THE TOOL. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE US TO PLEASE MOVE ON? YEAH, MOVE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GONNA SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS ONE. 
          UH, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT TO DO AS WELL. 
          UM, SO THIS ONE IS ABOUT THE BRADLEY CIRCLE AREA FROM MOVING FROM RM EIGHT TO REFLECT, UH, EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY USE ONLY. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT TRUTH? UH, AGAIN, AS WE DISCUSSED, UH, WITH, WITH THE LAST ITEM, THIS CAN BE DONE IN SEVERAL DIS DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SIMPLY A ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE. 
          IT COULD BE AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, UH, OR, OR SOME OTHER TACTIC TO, TO, TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION. 
          ALTHOUGH AS WE GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION, ONE THING WE'RE GONNA BE KEEPING IN MIND IS HOW ALL THESE PIECES WORK TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE ALSO WANT TO KEEP THE CODE USABLE, SO WE DON'T WANT TO END UP WITH TOO MANY  SPECIAL AREAS. 
          BUT, BUT DRE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          AND, AND I SAID IT TOO, SO I JUST WANNA ADD THAT CAVEAT. 
          SO THIS IS THE BRADLEY CIRCLE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS PROPOSAL. 
          UM, IT'S CURRENTLY RM EIGHT. 
          SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT SHOWS. 
          SO WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN HERE ARE THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS. 
          UH, YOU HAVE 
          [01:30:01]
THREE, FIVE, OR SIX. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE CURRENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS THAT RANGE FROM 3, 5, 6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE EIGHT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. 
          THAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE RM EIGHT. 
          THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS DIFFERENT IN THE RM 8 45 FEET VERSUS 35 FEET. 
          AND THE, UH, EXISTING RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS. 
          AND THEN IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES IN THE USE. 
          UH, ONCE AGAIN, YOU GO FROM, UH, MULTIPLE RESIDENTIAL USES AS WELL AS, UH, BED AND BREAKFAST AND COMMUNITY SERVICE USES THAT WOULD GO FROM, UH, PERMITTED OR PERMITTED WITH CONDITIONS TO ONLY THE SINGLE FAMILY BEING PERMITTED IN THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. 
          I GET IT DOES NOT HAVE EVERY RIGHT. 
          IT DOES NOT HAVE EVERY USE. 
          IT HAS THE USES THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE RM EIGHT AND THE RSF DISTRICTS. 
          QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? YES, SIR. 
          MR. RUSSELL? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UH, IN, UH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HEIGHT, BUILDING HEIGHT, DOES THAT, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, THAT'S ORIGINAL EXISTING GROUND LEVEL AS OPPOSED TO COMING IN WITH FIELD DIRT AND MEASURING FROM THERE UP? IS THAT CORRECT? SO HEIGHT IS MEASURED FROM 13 FEET ABOVE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY. 
          13 FEET ABOVE MEAN C LEVEL OR PRE-DEVELOPMENT GRADE, WHICHEVER IS HIGHER. 
          AND WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF, IF YOU ARE AT NINE FEET, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE MEASURED FROM 13 FEET FOR YOUR ACTUAL HEIGHT. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA, YOU JUST ADD THAT ADDITIONAL FOOTAGE TO, TO WHAT THE, SO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE HIGHER THAN 45 FEET, UH, IF YOU WERE AT NINE FEET. 
          UH, CURRENTLY IF YOU DO ADD FILL, WHICH YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO ADD UP TO THREE FEET, THEN YOU WOULD ADD, THEN IT WOULD BE FROM 12 FEET AS OPPOSED TO, BUT IT'S ALWAYS 13 FEET ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL OR PRE-DEVELOPMENT GRADE AND WHICHEVER IS HIGHER. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ALSO THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, IN A SUBSEQUENT SECTION YES. 
          FOR, UM, POTENTIAL MODIFICATION TO AT GRADE AS THE BASELINE MEASUREMENT. 
          SO BRADLEY'S BRADLEY CIRCLE IS JUST ABOUT BUILT OUT, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF CHANGES HERE THAT I'M NOT, UM, COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH. 
          IF YOU WERE TO REDUCE THE HEIGHT TO 35 FEET RATHER THAN 45 FEET, EVEN THOUGH IF I COULD REWRITE HISTORY, WHICH I CAN'T, UM, THE 35 WOULD BE FAR MORE APPROPRIATE. 
          WE ARE AT 45 AND THERE'S SUCH LITTLE DEVELOPMENT LEFT. 
          I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LEAVE THE HEIGHT WHERE THE HEIGHT IS. 
          AND UM, AGAIN, IT, IT'S THE SAME CONVERSATION AS WE HAD BEFORE, UM, BECAUSE IT IS NEARLY BUILT OUT. 
          CHANGING RS FIVE IS, IS AN ABSOLUTE YES. 
          UM, PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN TO ARE, UM, HAPPY WITH THAT. 
          BUT UM, IT WOULD, THE REQUEST WOULD BE WOULD BE RSF EIGHT. 
          RSS F EIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO LEAVE THE, THE DENSITY THE SAME, BUT LIMITED TO SINGLE FAMILY. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES OF THIS MEETING, BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS RESTRICTED TO THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY USE ONLY. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE'VE USED OUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DISTRICTS, WHICH ONLY ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USES OF SINGLE FAMILY, UH, NOT MULTIFAMILY MIXED USE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY THOSE ARE UP THERE. 
          AGAIN, WE COULD USE AN RSF DISTRICT, CREATE AN RSF DISTRICT, UH, MODIFY THE RM EIGHT DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD MODIFY THAT DISTRICT ISLAND WIDE OR CREATE AN OVERLAY, DIFFERENT TACTICS. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT THIS DISCUSSION'S ABOUT. 
          AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO DRIVE THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THANK YOU MR. JOHNSON, FOR INCLUDING ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          BUT THIS ONE IS JUST ABOUT BUILT OUT. 
          SO YOU, YOU WOULD BE CREATING A LOT OF NONCONFORMITIES IF YOU WERE TO, UM, CHANGE THE HEIGHT AND, UH, AND, AND THE ZONING IN. 
          BUT THE, IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY, BUT THE RSF, THE SINGLE FAMILY IS WHAT EVERYBODY WANTS. 
          THEY WANT THAT DESIGNATION. 
          I THINK, UH, CHANGE, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE HEIGHT AND OTHER AREAS, PROBABLY ADVISED TO, TO, UM, CHANGE THE STREET VIEW, BUT TO CHANGE THE HEIGHT HERE WITH ONLY A HALF A DOZEN, LOTS LEFT WOULD MAKE FOR SOME ODD LOOKING HOMES. 
          [01:35:01]
RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S, UH, IT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          YES, SIR. 
          COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP? I AM ONLY AWARE TWO VACANT LOTS IN THERE, MS. BECKER BY OFF. 
          UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT WE COUNTED, AND THERE'S ROUGHLY SIX. 
          THERE MIGHT BE SEVEN, BUT I THINK THERE'S SIX IS THAT VIDEO? MM-HMM . 
          AND I SAY THAT, UM, IT'S A GOOD POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING. 
          I SAY THAT SOME OF THE LOTS, THE EXISTING LOTS THAT HAVE HOMES ON THEM DO HAVE, UM, CAPACITY TO BE SUBDIVIDED AND THEREFORE THAT'S HOW IT CAME UP TO A HIGHER NUMBER. 
          BUT OTHER THAN, YES, AND I THINK AS, UM, I THINK IT WAS MR. DIX THAT POINTED OUT EARLIER, AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, REDEVELOPMENT IS SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITIES ARE MM-HMM . 
          CONSTANTLY EXPERIENCING WHEN YOU'RE ON AN ISLAND THAT'S ALMOST BUILT OUT . 
          AND SO I HOPE THAT MAKES A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, A, A NUMBER OF THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP WITH REGARD TO PROPERTY RIGHTS BEING CON HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN ALL THE CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS. 
          UM, BUT IT'S ALSO A MATTER OF CONSISTENCY WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT IT, UM, INTENDS TO BE. 
          AND, AND FOR THIS AREA, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A LOT OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          CAMPBELL, ARE WE ALSO LOOKING TO KEEP FAMILY COMPOUNDS AND FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS IN THIS AREA? THERE AREN'T ANY. 
          OH, I THOUGHT I SAW THAT THERE. 
          IT WASN'T UP THERE. 
          UH, WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE JUST AREN'T ANY? BECAUSE NO ONE'S DEVELOPED THEM OR THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED THE ROOM. 
          THERE'S NO ROOM, THERE'S NO LAMP. 
          THEY'RE AVAILABLE FOR IT BUILT OUT. 
          I WELCOME YOU TO ALL COME DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS, AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER WHEN WE CHANGE THESE BEING IN AN HISTORIC AREA. 
          RIGHT? I MEAN, BECAUSE I, I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE I'M LOOKING WRONG AND I'M, I THOUGHT THAT THERE, IN THAT AREA THERE WOULD BE A PERSON, A FAMILY THAT WOULD FIT UNDER THE FAMILY COMPOUND. 
          NO. 
          SO AND SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IN THAT SIDE OF THE STREET, THERE ARE THREE LOTS THAT WHEN WE REZONED IT, WHEN, WHEN WE WORKED WITH COUNCIL, THAT COUNCIL THEN AND REZONED THIS AREA, THREE LOTS WERE LEFT RESORT DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND SO THAT DOES NOT FALL INTO THE CATEGORY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I THINK I'LL NEED TO GO DRIVE AND SEE IT. 
          YEAH, KNOCK ON, KNOCK ON MY DOOR. 
          I'M HAPPY TO WALK YOU AROUND AND, OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, LET'S, UH, MOVE TO BOTH AND SEE WHERE WE ARE. 
          SO AGAIN, WHAT'S LISTED HERE ARE THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS AND TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD. 
          SO IF YOU'LL SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK, AND ONCE AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO'S WILLING TO SHARE YOUR FEEDBACK ABOUT NO OR UNDECIDED OF, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE SUGGESTION OR, UM, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          I, WE HAVE HEARD THAT MANY OF YOU WANNA DRIVE THAT, SO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ADD? YES, SIR. 
          I'M UNDECIDED ONCE AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, BUT FOR ME, I'M JUST WITHHOLDING, YOU KNOW, I HONESTLY, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT. 
          MY ONLY CONCERN IS JUST IF WITH DOWNSHIFTING IT TO AN RSF ULTIMATELY GETS TO A POINT WHERE SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE AN EXCLUDED USE WITHIN AN RSF ZONE. 
          UM, AND IF, IF, UM, IF, IF THEY'RE PROTECTED AS AN ACCEPTABLE USE, I'M FINE WITH IT. 
          BUT IF NOT, THEN I WOULD, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF BASED ON A FUTURE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVEN'T CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA FALL AT THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          SO. 
          MAKES SENSE. 
          MS. CAMPBELL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, MS. BECKER, I JUST WANNA ASSURE, UM, MIKE, THAT I AM NOT ADVOCATING FOR REMOVING SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I DIDN'T THINK YOU WOULD BE. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, 
          [01:40:01]
OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED THE GO THE SAY THAT. 
          SO YOU HEAR ME? I AM NOT ADVOCATING. 
          NO, I, I, I DIDN'T ASSUME THAT AT ALL. 
          I WAS, I WAS MORE JUST THINKING ABOUT KIND OF KNOWING WHERE THIS IS GOING FROM A, FROM A DRAFTING STANDPOINT. 
          SO THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL THIS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL FEEDBACK. 
          UM, THE NEXT ONE IS REALLY SHORT, IF WE CAN JUST COVER IT QUICKLY, UH, BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, UNLESS MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'D LIKE TO. 
          SO THIS ONE IS REALLY ABOUT ASSESSING THE, UM, RD DISTRICT USE AND DESIGN STANDARDS. 
          SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE AREAS ON THE ZONING DISTRICT OR THE ZONING MAP THERE THAT WE'RE REFERENCING. 
          WE'RE NOT BRINGING FORTH ANY PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATIONS OR CHANGES AT THIS POINT. 
          IT'S REALLY JUST AN ASSESSMENT OF THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE PARTICULAR ITEMS IN THIS DISTRICT THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF, THAT YOU THINK ARE OF CONCERN, WE CERTAINLY WELCOME THAT FEEDBACK. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF A MOVING FORWARD ON ASSESSING THAT DISTRICT. 
          YOU MAY WANNA REFER THEM TO THE, TO THE USE TABLE IN THE BACK. 
          AND THEN ALSO, ISN'T THAT, DIDN'T WE YES. 
          INCLUDE THAT ZONING DISTRICT? THE ZONING DISTRICT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR, UM, IN YOUR PACKET. 
          AND THEN AGAIN THE, UH, WE DIDN'T OH, THAT ONE'S NOT IN THERE. 
          OH, WE APOLOGIZE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT ONE'S MISSING. 
          SO WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU. 
          WE'LL SEND THAT BACK OUT. 
          THANKS SHAY. 
          BUT, BUT YOU DO HAVE THE USE TABLE THAT'S IN THERE. 
          THE LAST ONE WILL PROBABLY TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IF YOU WANNA SAY FOR THE NEXT, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          IT'S, IT'S UP TO YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          I THINK MS. BRYSON HAS SOME COMMENTS. 
          OH, I'M SORRY MS. BRYSON. 
          HEY, I WAS LOOKING AROUND TO SEE IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. 
          UM, I'M STRONG ADVOCATE OF REASSESSING THIS. 
          IF I HAD MY WAY, I'D DO AWAY TOTALLY WITH RESORT DISTRICT. 
          I USED TO LIVE IN THAT AREA. 
          I DID NOT LIVE IN A RESORT . 
          I SAW TALL BUILDINGS, MASSIVE BUILDINGS BEING BUILT AROUND THERE AND DESTROYING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, IT IT A LOT MORE WHEN YOU SAID THIS WAS GONNA BE A SHORT DISCUSSION,  YOU HADN'T ASKED ME FIRST , BUT IT, IT TRULY NEEDS TO BE ASSESSED. 
          IT IS NOT A RESORT. 
          I'VE BEEN TO RESORTS, IT'S NOT A RESORT. 
          UM, AND YES, PLEASE, I HOPE THAT OTHER FOLKS WILL SUPPORT THIS AS WELL. 
          UM, I COULD GO ON. 
          UM, BUT I WANT, AT THIS POINT, IF ANYONE WANTS TO ASK ME MORE ABOUT WHY I'M SO STRONGLY, UM, ADVOCATING THAT WE REASSESS THIS, I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND. 
          MR. CARSONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'VE, I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE LOW COUNTRY IN THE REGION FOR 20 PLUS YEARS. 
          AND WHETHER IT'S A ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY OR A NEW COMMUNITY, UH, EFFECTIVE ZONING AND EFFECTIVE DENSITY WORKS BEST WHEN IT, THE USES ALIGN AND ACCESS TO AMENITIES AND, AND USES THAT ALIGN WITH HIGHER DENSITIES. 
          YOU KNOW, HILL NET IS A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY PUD, UH, COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE FOR DENSITY WHEN IT IS ALIGNED AGAIN WITH USES THAT SUPPORT THAT, SUCH AS FOOD AND BEVERAGE, GROCERY STORES, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICES, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND THAT'S WHY AREAS LIKE MAIN STREET AND SO FORTH ARE, WERE DEVELOPED IN SUCH A, A FASHION BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO CONCENTRATE CERTAIN USES IN, IN, IN ACCESSIBLE AREAS. 
          SO IN LOOKING AT THE RD DISTRICT, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A WIDE VARIETY OF USES THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY WHAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A HIGHER DENSITY USE. 
          SO IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S CAREFUL IN UNDERSTANDING THE LIMITS OF THAT AND, AND, AND HOW WE'RE TRYING TO MANIPULATE THAT. 
          I THINK A LOT OF THE ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE RD DISTRICTS IS IN SOME OF THE BELT FORM, UH, LET ALONE SOME OF THE USES. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S A CHALLENGE. 
          YOU KNOW, K CLINGY WAS ONE OF THE OLDEST DISTRICTS FOR A COMMERCIAL AREA ON THE ISLAND THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, IN, IN THE MODERN DEVELOPMENT TIME, IT, YOU KNOW, THIS NORTHERN AREA WAS AN AREA THAT WAS A CHALLENGE AND, AND A KIND OF A SPUR OFF OF, YOU KNOW, THAT OPPORTUNITIES. 
          BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RD DISTRICT, AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, BE VERY CAREFUL IN, IN HOW WE LOOK AT OUR CORRIDORS AND HOW WE LOOK AT OUR AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, DRAW THE MOST FOLKS AND, AND SERVICE THE MOST PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUR, OUTSIDE OF OUR PUDS. 
          SO, THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK ABOUT THIS ONE? OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, IT'S, UH, IT'S A QUARTER TILL, I THINK WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE SIGNED UP. 
          LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HARD STOP. 
          SO, UM, KIM, WHO WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          GIMME ONE SECOND. 
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LEMME GET THE TIMER. 
          I CAN WE NOT GET THE LIGHTS BACK ON? NO, THERE'S AIR CONDITIONER UP THERE AND IT'S GOT WATER AND WE DON'T WANT THE WATER AND THE ELECTRICITY TO BE TOGETHER. 
          . 
          OH, OKAY. 
          DU AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? GREETING EVERYONE? UH, I'M RADO RES. 
          I, UH, OWN PROPERTY IN BRADLEY CIRCLE. 
          I'M A BUSINESS OWNER. 
          I LIVE IN HILTON HUDSON SINCE, UH, UH, 98, UH, HAD BUSINESSES IN, UH, THE AREA SINCE, UH, 98. 
          UH, I ALSO LIVE IN FLORIDA. 
          UH, IN ANY EVENT, LONG STORY SHORT, I OPPOSE, UH, ANY CHANGES, UH, UH, TO, UH, OR AMENDMENTS IN LMO. 
          THEY'LL FURTHER RESTRICT, UH, THE PROPERTY, UH, RIGHTS, UM, FOR, UH, FOR, UH, REDEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, I THINK IT'LL DEPRECIATE THE VALUES OF THE PROPERTIES. 
          UH, MOST OF US HAS PAID PROPERTY TAXES AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY THROUGH OUR, UH, UH, BUSINESSES AND, AND, UH, EVERYTHING ELSE WE DID FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, IT WILL BE UNFAIR FOR A FEW REMAINING LOTS, UH, AND, UH, TO, TO BE, UH, RESTRICTED. 
          UH, I WILL ADVISE THAT, UH, UH, OR I RECOMMEND THAT UH, UH, NOBODY SHOULD SUPPORT, UH, AN LMO CHANGE THAT, UH, IT'S, UH, GONNA MAKE THEIR OWN HOUSE, UH, NOT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          CARL BRADEN . 
          SO, HELLO, MY NAME'S CARL BRADEN. 
          I'M A 30 YEAR RESIDENT, UH, OF THE NON GATED AREAS OF BRADLEY BEACH AND BRADLEY CIRCLE AND, UH, FAMILIES COMING TOGETHER TO VACATION IN A BIG HOME IS A TRADITION ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          AND IN THE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE GATES. 
          MANUFACTURED HOMES ARE, UH, ALSO A TRADITION HERE. 
          AND, UH, THESE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE PUDS ENJOY A GREAT DEAL OF DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE, OF INCOME LEVELS, OF TYPES OF HOMES AND TOLERANCE. 
          UH, THE ATTITUDE HERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIVE AND LET LIVE. 
          AS WE, UH, WAIT FOR THE DISTRICT PLANNING PHASE, A NUMBER OF PRIORITY AMENDMENTS HAVE BEEN IMPOSED IN PART TO CONTROL THESE AREAS THAT DO NOT HAVE AN HOA LIKE BRADLEY'S CIRCLE. 
          UH, THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF PLANNING SAID THAT THE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS WOULD BE REVIEWED AT THE DISTRICT PLANNING PHASE AND COULD BE REVERSED BASED ON PUBLIC INPUT. 
          BUT TO DATE, WE'VE HAD ONLY ONE MEETING. 
          AND, UH, THE BIGGEST BARRIER TO DEVELOPMENT IS COST. 
          AND EACH TIME THE LMO IS ALTERED, IT TENDS TO INCREASE THE COST TO BUILD, REDUCE VALUE WITHOUT COMPENSATION, OR CREATE NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES, NOT JUST FOR WEALTHY DEVELOPERS AND RETIREES, BUT FOR EVERYONE. 
          AND IN 1996, THE RU DEBT REPORT RECOMMENDED THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND SHOULD RELAX OR WAVE GROWTH MEASURES, CONTROL MEASURES, AND SHOULD WAVE OR DECREASE THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT IN NATIVE ISLANDER COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, RECENTLY FOLKS HAVE LOST THE RIGHT TO HAVE A DUPLEX ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT, AND EVEN THE ABILITY TO HAVE A SIMPLE LOCKOUT UNIT AT A TIME WHEN FLEXIBLE ZONING AND INCREASED DENSITY ARE GREATLY NEEDED FOR OPTIONS LIKE AUXILIARY HOUSING UNITS. 
          UH, ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, FOLKS ARE DESPERATE FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, WHETHER FOR FAMILY MEMBERS OR FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          INSTEAD, OFFICIALS SEEK TO IMPOSE GREATER RESTRICTIONS SUCH AS ON BUILDING HEIGHTS, SETBACK, BUFFERS, AND SO ON. 
          BY CHANGING THE LMO THAT HAS BEEN RELIED UPON FOR DECADES TO MAKE PLANS AND DECISIONS. 
          SO CHANGING BRADLEY CIRCLE FROM RMA TO SINGLE FAMILY SEEMS TO BE A WAY TO PREVENT THE, UH, SUBDIVISION OF THE ONLY THREE REMAINING LARGER PARCELS. 
          UH, OR A WAY TO ELIMINATE CERTAIN USE OF THAT LAND, WHICH IS A FORM OF SPOT ZONING IN MY OPINION. 
          AS FOR THE ONLY REMAINING RD LAND ON BRADLEY CIRCLE, UH, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO MARRIOTT SURF WATCH, TIMESHARE BUILDING, UH, THE FAMILY THAT OWNS THAT LAND IS PART OF THE SAME FAMILY THAT ONCE OWNED THE ENTIRE 11 ACRE TRACK THAT BECAME BRADLEY CIRCLE AND THE 11 ACRES THAT BECAME THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S OPEN SPACE THEREON BEACH PARK. 
          SO ANY CHANGE TO WHAT IS PERMITTED UNDER RDS ZONING WOULD TAKE ADDITIONAL RIGHTS AND VALUE AWAY FROM THIS FAMILY. 
          AND IN FACT, THE MAJORITY OF OWNERS OF THE FEW REMAINING, UH, RD PARCELS IN ALL OF CHAPLAIN ARE NATIVE ISLANDER FAMILIES. 
          SO, RD RIGHTS, UH, DID NOT INCREASE IN 2014. 
          THEY WERE ALWAYS DOUBLED THE 
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DENSITY OF RM EIGHT AND UH, WHICH IS WHAT SERVED WATCH RESORT WAS BUILT TO IN 2001. 
          WE HAD TO ATTEND SEVERAL MEETINGS IN 2017 IN ORDER TO RETAIN THE, UH, HISTORIC RD LAND USE AND DENSITY RIGHTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MELINDA NER. 
          HI SCOTT. 
          YES. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          MY BIGGEST CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE GULLAH COMMUNITY LOSING THEIR PROPERTY VALUES AND THEIR OPPORTUNITY. 
          EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE EQUITABLE. 
          IF SOMEONE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR LAND, WE SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT WITH OURS. 
          THE MAJORITY OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED IN THOSE PUDS WITH MASTER PLANS. 
          WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONTROLLING WHAT'S LEFT. 
          THAT'S OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THE FIRST THING THAT WAS STATED, RM FOUR, THE MAJORITY OF RM FOUR IS THE GULLAH NATIVE COMMUNITY. 
          THAT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY. 
          WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES THOSE USES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING AWAY, HOW DID THEY GET THERE? THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST QUESTION BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT TAKING SOMETHING AWAY. 
          WHY ARE THEY THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? BECAUSE THE, THE PEOPLE, THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE SPOKE THEIR WAY OF LIFE WAS IMPACTED WHEN THIS TOWN WAS INCORPORATED. 
          YOU ALL HAVE NOW IN YOUR HANDS SOME OF THE STUDIES, NOT ALL OF THEM, SOME OF THEM GO BACK AND SEE WHAT DID THE PEOPLE SAY. 
          SO WE TALKING ABOUT, WE GO INTO THESE COMMUNITIES AND THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAID. 
          ASK YOURSELF HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THOSE MEETINGS ARE NATIVE ISLANDERS? THEY HAVE GIVEN UP ON TRUSTING THIS GOVERNMENT. 
          THEY FOUGHT NOT TO BE INCORPORATED. 
          GO BACK. 
          HOW DID THE TOWN GET INCORPORATED? THE NATIVE ALLENS WERE AGAINST IT A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          WHY OPPORTUNITY RESTRICTIONS. 
          AND YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASKING YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE MAKING A DETERMINATION OF HOW SOMEBODY'S GONNA USE THEIR PROPERTY. 
          YOU ARE IMPACTING HOW THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN AND STAY ON THEIR LAND WITH THE SWIFT OF A PEN AND CHANGE THEIR LIFE, UPROOT THEIR LIFE, TAKE AWAY THEIR OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COMPENSATION. 
          AND YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WELL WHAT'S THE VALUE? THE VALUE DEPENDS ON WHO OWNS IT IF YOU ASK ME. 
          'CAUSE APPARENTLY WHEN WE OWN IT, THERE'S NO VALUE UNTIL IT EXCHANGES HANDS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGES MAKE, WE ARE MADE. 
          RDR FOUR RESORT DEVELOPMENT, WHATEVER, IT'S RM EIGHT, ALL OF THAT. 
          GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL. 
          WHAT WAS THOSE PROPERTIES ZONED? HOW WOULD THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN PRIOR TO THIS TIME BEING INCORPORATED? WHAT DID THEY ASK FOR? WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN PLEADING FOR? EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND IF YOU'RE NOT GIVEN EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITY, YOU'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          ROBERT SR. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SINGLETON. 
          SINGLETON. 
          HELLO. 
          HELLO. 
          I AM ROBERT SINGLETON AND MARY DREESSEN WHO PASSED AWAY NO LESS THAN TWO YEARS AGO. 
          SHE A TREE THAT WAS BY THE, THE BULL WALK. 
          AND IT'S GONE NOW. 
          YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TALK ABOUT, ABOUT A WHOLE HOUR AND A HALF AND NOBODY WHERE THE KNOW, WHERE THE TREE AT. 
          BUT UM, RESULT DEVELOPMENT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. 
          THAT'S MY PEOPLE FAMILY. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M THE SON OF GEORGE CLINTON. 
          YOU KNOW, MAKE MYSELF A PFU. 
          DON'T CUT MY, YOU FEEL ME? UM, I'M A AIR FORCE'S DAD AND I'M A-W-N-B-A FATHER. 
          I DON'T BRAG ABOUT IT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          THEY CALL ME SNOOP DOGG, YOU KNOW? AND UM, WHEN YOU CALL PEOPLE FOR SAFETY, YOU DON'T CALL PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEN THEY PULL A PISTOL ON YOU. 
          WHEN YOUR MAMA BULL WALK, YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT. 
          I GO TO SLEEP THINKING ABOUT IT, WAKE UP THINKING ABOUT IT. 
          AND THAT'S ON THE RECORD FOR THE POLICE. 
          THE 9 9 1 DISPATCH. 
          THAT'S NO SAFETY. 
          NOT AT ALL. 
          PEOPLE JUST WANNA TAKE SOMETHING FROM ME. 
          EVERYBODY BUILD IT UP. 
          NOW THIS IS ONLY THE, THEY TAKE, THEY SAY USE THE N WORD, BUT PUT THE N WORD BACK ON THE I. 
          THEY WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING FROM THIS N***A. 
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IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          AND THAT WATER THAT WAS LEAKING RIGHT THERE, THAT'S MY MAMA SHARING TEARS AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE DON'T SHOOT ME ON HER BULL BALL. 
          MUCH LOVE THAT. 
          HOLD ON FOR A, THAT'S IT. 
          THAT'S NO MORE COMMENTS. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          YES SIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. 
          OUR NEXT MEETING IS UH, I THINK THE 26TH. 
          IS IT 26TH? 5:00 PM UM, THANK YOU. 
          IT IS FIVE TILL SEVEN. 
          SO WE GET OUT A LITTLE EARLY. 
          DO I HAVE A UH YES IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM? YEAH, THERE PEOPLE SIGNED UP. 
          SIGNED UP. 
          KIM, WHAT? HE HE SAID THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE SIGNED UP. 
          WHERE DID THEY SIGN UP? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
           LEE LUCIER. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          SITTING HERE. 
          HERE'S A LITTLE THROWN OFF. 
          UH, LEE LU HERE. 
          THANK YOU FOR OPPORTUNITY. 
          UH, THANK THE TOWN STAFF AND THIS COMMITTEE FOR THE NUMEROUS MAP HOURS I'VE PUT INTO THIS. 
          I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS TONIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, DOING SOME RESEARCH, AS YOU GUYS ARE SAYING WITH THE TREE BANK, LOOK INTO OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DOING A TREE BANK WITH SPECIFIC USE. 
          EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT THE OAK TREES ON THIS ISLAND, BUT THE OAK TREES AREN'T GONNA LAST FOREVER. 
          THEY'RE DYING. 
          THEY'RE BEING CUT DOWN. 
          MAYBE YOU START A OAK TREE BANK AND THAT'S THE BANK THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR OAK TREES LIKE THEY'RE DOING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          UH, THE SECOND THING WOULD BE, UM, THE JONESVILLE CHANGES AS YOU'RE USE CHANGING THE USE OF THE ZONING IN JONESVILLE. 
          WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE, UH, THE BRYANT ROAD PROJECT THAT THE TOWN IS TRYING TO GET FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING NOW? WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE DENSITY FOR THAT PROJECT? I WAS JUST ASKING IN NONCONFORMING, I URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          AS YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS. 
          THANKFULLY HILTON HAS NOT BEEN HIT BY A HURRICANE THAT'S BEEN TRAUMATIC. 
          BUT LIVING IN A COMMUNITY THAT LOST 35% OF THEIR HOMES THAT COULDN'T REBUILD 'CAUSE OF PRIOR REDISTRICTING THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE GRANDFATHER THERE WAS NONCONFORMING AND THERE WAS A LOT OF NATIVE PEOPLE TO THAT AREA. 
          THEY COULDN'T REBUILD THEIR HOMES THAT EXISTED 'CAUSE THEY WERE 50% OR TOTALLY LOST. 
          I URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND THE LAST THING I ASK, AND THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE WHOLE COMMITTEE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, USE IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT AND HOW WOULD THAT BE, UH, ADDRESSED WITH A FRACTIONAL OWNERSHIP THAT THE STATE COURT HAS NOW SAID IS NOT SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          SO THAT'S MY QUESTIONS. 
          ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP? YES, BETH. 
          BETH HERE. 
          I SIGNED UP. 
          I'LL PASS OVER. 
          BETH PETROS NOT HERE. 
          SHE LEFT THAT IT. 
          KIM? YES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DERMAN SECOND. 
          OF COURSE. 
          SECOND ADJOURNED. 
          THANKS FOR WATCHING BBC TV.
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