* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY. UM, THE FEBRUARY 11TH, 2026 [1. CALL TO ORDER] STORM WATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY BOARD. TO ORDER. FIRST ON THE [2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA] AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. DO I HAVE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? I MOTION WILL WE APPROVE? SECOND, MR. BUCHANAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT [3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] IS, NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 10TH, 2025. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OR ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE IN A SECOND? UH, I'LL OPEN IT UP. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? THERE BEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR BY RAISING YOUR HAND. ANOTHER UNANIMOUS VOTE. AT THIS TIME, WE [4. INTRODUCTIONS] WILL DO INTRODUCTIONS. UH, WE WILL START WITH COUNCILMAN RITZ. UH, TOM RE, GENTLEMAN SITTING IN THE CENTER AISLE. TOM MILLS PUBLIC WORKS. MICHELLE STRADER, BEAUFORT COUNTY, ED WARNER. HILTON HEAD. DENNIS ROSS AT LARGE. MARK FEINBERG. AND I REPRESENT DISTRICT NINE, UNINCORPORATED. DISTRICT NINE, AND DUSKY ISLAND. RON BUCHANAN, UH, ST. HELEN AND ALLENS EAST. JEFF INGER, TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. NATE FAROH, CITY OF BEAUFORT. ANDREA MARINO OF BLUFFTON. THANK YOU EVERYONE, UH, FOR ATTENDING. UH, I JUST WANNA, UH, MAKE A, A SLIGHT ANNOUNCEMENT. UH, WELCOME TO ANDREA MARINO, UH, IS REPLACING SOME BIG SHOES WITH BILL BAUER. UH, HE'S, HE'S BEEN A, A, A CONSISTENTLY, UH, GREAT ASSET TO THE STORMWATER BOARD AS AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY HIS REPORTS THROUGH YOU, UH, YOU'LL CONTINUE, UH, BECAUSE HE, HE GAVE US EXCELLENT REPORTS, UH, EVERY OTHER MONTH AND EVEN MONTHLY. SO, UH, WE WELCOME YOU AND AGAIN, BIG SHOES TO FILL. I WANT TO THANK THE, UH, OTHER MEMBERS OF MY BOARD FOR BEING HERE, UH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE WERE WORRIED A LITTLE EARLIER WHETHER WE'D HAVE A QUORUM, BUT WE DO, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE STILL, UH, TWO PEOPLE SHORT TODAY, WE STILL HAVE ONE OPEN PO. WE HAVE TWO OPEN POSITIONS. UH, ONE IS STILL BEING HELD, UH, BY ED WARNER. UH, AND WE THANK ED FOR CONTINUING, UH, TO PARTICIPATE, UH, EVEN THOUGH HE IS MOVED INTO JASPER COUNTY. UH, UH, AND PATRICK MITCHELL, OUR VICE CHAIR, IS UNDER THE WEATHER, AND WE WISH HIM A SPEEDY RECOVERY. SO, UH, AT THIS [5. PUBLIC COMMENT] POINT, WE WILL ASK, IS THERE ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC HERE. IF YOU WISH TO MAKE A COMMENT NOW OR LATER, WE WILL OPEN IT UP AT THE END. HEY, MY NAME'S KURT CHAPMAN. UM, I OWN PROPERTY WITH MY WIFE ON SIX TOTAL LANE. IT'S AN ADDRESS Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY AWARE OF AND USED TO. UM, I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ONGOING UNMITIGATED UNADDRESSED STORM WATER ISSUE. UM, [00:05:02] IT'S BEEN NOW CLOSE TO TWO YEARS SINCE THE OFFICIAL STORM WATER STUDY WAS PUBLISHED. UH, THE COUNTY HAD IT IN DRAFT FORM A GOOD 18 MONTHS BEFORE THAT, AND STILL NOTHING'S BEEN DONE. UH, LAST YEAR BETWEEN THE MIDDLE OF JULY AND LABOR DAY, 31 INCHES OF RAIN FELL IN OUR AREA OF LADIES ISLAND. NOW THAT'S THE EFFECT, BASICALLY OF TWO HURRICANES BACK TO BACK. UM, TO THIS DATE, VERY LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE. I DO WANT TO SINGLE OUT THE PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS AND TAYLOR BREWER. THEY HAVE DONE SOME VERY, VERY GOOD INITIAL STUFF. WE WERE TOLD AS FAR BACK AS TWO YEARS AGO BY A COUNTY COUNSELOR, UM, THAT THE COUNTY WAS IN TALKS WITH THE LIMITED LIABILITY CORPORATION THAT OWNS THE GOLF COURSE. NOW, SINCE THAT TIME, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE LIMITED LIABILITY CORPORATION MAY OR MAY, EXCUSE ME, IT'S NOT A LIMITED LIABILITY CORPORATION. IT, IT'S A LIMITED PARTNERSHIP. AND IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING, AND WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT REPRESENTATIVES OF LIMITED PARTNERSHIP HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME DEALING WITH THE COUNTY THAT'S DEALING OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE DECK THAT IS UNDERHANDED. AND I MET TODAY A PERSON WHO CLAIMS TO BE A DEVELOPER WHO HAS PURCHASED PART OF THE, THE MARSH GOLF COURSE THAT IS INTENDED ACCORDING TO PLANS I'VE SEEN AND HEARD NOT SEEN, BUT THAT I'VE HEARD OF, THAT WAS TO CREATE A STORMWATER DETENTION RETENTION AREA AND A PASSIVE PARK. UM, ONE IS TRUE AND THE OTHER ISN'T. SO NOT REAL HAPPY. AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, I'M GONNA KEEP COMING BACK UNTIL WE GET ANSWERS, AND I WILL HOLD THIS GROUP RESPONSIBLE. IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO STAND UP AND SHOW A BACKBONE. DON'T PUT THIS ALL ON TAYLOR. OKAY? THERE'S PLENTY OF ANSWERS OUT THERE. AS A MATTER OF FACT, AN ANSWER IMMEDIATELY TO AT LEAST A FIVE, FIVE YEAR STORM EVENT AT OUR PROPERTY. AND THE PROPERTIES ON NEEDLE RUSH AND THE PROPERTIES ON TURTLE LANE WASN'T UNDER, UNDER A HUNDRED, AN UNDER $100,000 FIX THAT THE, THAT THE CONSULTING ENGINEERS SAID COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. NADA. SO, I'M BE KEEPING EYES ON YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK WE WILL BE ADDRESSING, UH, SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IN OUR STORM WATER MANAGERS UPDATE. MY BOARD MEMBERS, I, ANYONE ELSE AT THIS TIME WISHES TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT THERE BEING NO OTHER. WE WILL MOVE, WE [6. REPORTS] WILL MOVE INTO REPORTS. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS OUR, UH, LABORATORY, OUR CONTRACT LABORATORY. WELCOME. HELLO. SORRY, DR. PETTY IS SICK OUT TODAY. UM, SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING'S GOING AROUND . UM, OUR QUARTERLY SAMPLING IS IN PROCESS FOR THIS FIRST QUARTER, UM, FOR THE COUNTY. WE'VE COMPLETED ALMOST ALL OF OUR SAMPLING, AND WE'RE HOPING TO FINISH IT UP AT THE, THE BEGINNING OF THIS NEXT WEEK WITH THE RAIN WE'RE GONNA GET ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY. UM, WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON INTEGRATING A NEW MEMBER OF OUR LAB AND OUR CURRENT USCB STUDENT INTO OUR DAILY OPERATIONS, JUST TO HELP US OUT WITH OUR DAY-TO-DAY, UM, SAMPLE PROCESSING. HER NAME IS CASSIDY. AND, UM, WITH OUR PROJECTS WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, WE ARE, I BELIEVE, GETTING BACK INTO OUR TARGETED, UM, SUB-BASIN MICROBIAL SOURCE TRACKING WORK. UM, LOOKING TO FINISH UP WHAT WE WERE DOING LAST YEAR AND MAYBE WORK IN, LOOK AT SOME OTHER, UM, SUB-BASS THAT WE CAN TEST IN AND WITH OUR, UH, CITIZEN MONITORING PROJECT THAT WE WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH THE PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION, WITH, THAT'S STILL ONGOING, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND INTO THE UPPER WATERSHED WITH SOME OF THOSE SAMPLING SITES AS WELL. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR THIS FIRST MEETING THIS YEAR. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. YEAH. MAYBE TWO QUESTIONS. ABSOLUTELY. UH, UH, DO YOU ANALYZE, UH, UH, THE CITY OF BLUFFTON WATER OR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON? YES, WE WORK WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. MY QUESTION IS, IT SEEMS THAT YOU'VE BEEN UNDERSTAFFED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. A LITTLE BIT, YEAH. , AND, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT SOME STUDENTS MM-HMM . UH, INTERNING, HELPING, UH, [00:10:01] CAN YOU REALISTICALLY TAKE ON MORE SAMPLING POINTS AND GET THE ANALYSIS DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER WITH YOUR SHORT STAFF? I BELIEVE SO. OUR STUDENT, UM, ASSISTANCE THAT WE HAVE, WHICH BENEFITS US AND IT BENEFITS THEM TO GET SOME REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE WITH LABORATORY WORK LIKE THIS. UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THE INTEREST IN THAT IS GROWING. THE, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON OUR STAFFING ISSUES RIGHT NOW. UM, THE TRANSITION PROCESS FROM THE FORMER LAND MANAGER WHO HAD BEEN HERE FOR MANY YEARS TO, I KNOW THERE WAS A GAP IN BETWEEN HER AND I WHEN I JOINED ON ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO NOW. UM, BUT AS WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND PROPORTIONALLY TO, TO WHAT WE CAN BRING IN AND WHAT WE CAN CARRY WITH THE WORKLOAD RIGHT. NOW, ARE YOUR INTERNS DOING FIELD WORK OR ARE THEY DOING LAB BENCH WORK, OR BOTH? A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. UM, SOME OF THE STUDENTS DO GO OUT AND COLLECT THE SAMPLES, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PORT ROYAL PROJECT, THAT'S MOSTLY CITIZEN LED CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS THAT GO OUT AND DO THE SAMPLE COLLECTION AND THE MONITORING. AND THEN WHEN THE SAMPLES COME INTO THE LAB IN, AT OUR, UH, MARINE SCIENCES BUILDING, THE STUDENTS WILL PROCESS THE SAMPLES THERE. IS THERE A TRAINING PROGRAM FOR THE CITIZENS TO DO THE SAMPLING? MM-HMM . YEAH. IS THAT THROUGH THE LABORATORY? IT'S THROUGH THE PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION THROUGH, THROUGH COURTNEY AND CHRIS. THEY DO, UM, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY THE SIGNUP PROCESS FOR THAT, BUT THEY, UM, THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT REACH OUT TO THEM AND THEY INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE PROGRAM THAT WAY. I JUST, UH, WORRY ABOUT YOUR STAFFING AND YEAH. SO, WELL, IT'S GOOD FOR THE INTERNSHIP PEOPLE. YEAH, DEFINITELY. I'VE GOT A, YEAH. QUESTION ALMOST ALONG THOSE LINES. MM-HMM . AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE, THE 25, UH, OR THE, THE, ACTUALLY THE REPORT WE GOT YES. ON THE QUALITY LAB. YOU TALKED IN THE SUMMARY. UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SITES THAT YOU RECOMMEND RELOCATING OR ELIMINATING SIX OF THEM, UH, DUE TO POOR FLOW OR LOW ACCESSIBILITY. AND AS I LOOKED THROUGH HERE, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, AND IT'S SHANE PATRICK'S NOT HERE. THERE'S, WE HAVE THE ONE MONITORING STATION OUT ON LADIES ISLAND, WHICH IS BCR DASH RS, AND IT'S GOT THE LAT LONG ON HERE. UM, GIVEN THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING FROM THE WOODS MEMORIAL BRIDGE MM-HMM . EVENTUALLY ALL THE WAY TO DOWN TO PAST ST. HELENA. YEAH. WHAT OTHER MONITORING STATIONS ARE WE LOOKING AT HAVING? AND SINCE THIS ONE IS MAINLY JUST A POND FLOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TIDAL FLOW TO IT, ARE WE LOOKING AT PUTTING ANY OTHER STATIONS OUT ON LADIES ISLAND TO SAID, KEEP UP WITH THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT'S OUT THERE? I, UM, I BELIEVE AFTER, UM, I, I BELIEVE TAYLOR AND, UH, JACOB WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT THE SITES WITH TY AND TYLER A FEW MONTHS AGO, UM, AND WE CAME TO THE DECISION THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE SITES AT THIS TIME. UM, JUST BECAUSE WHERE WE'VE GOT, EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE TROUBLE WITH SOME ACCESSIBILITY AND FLOW ISSUES, SOMETIMES THE LOCATIONS WHERE THE SAMPLING IS TAKING PLACE IS STILL PREFERABLE TO WHERE WE COULD MOVE IT TO IN THOSE AREAS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. SORT OF, KIND OF MM-HMM . MR. DENNIS TO FIGURE OUT, UM, THE PROCESS FOR IN, IN, IN LADIES ISLAND OR JUST THE ONES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THIS REPORT IN GENERAL. BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO A, AND I DO THINK IT'S WISE FOR US TO GET AHEAD OF IT. YES. BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA GET ANY BETTER ANYTIME SOON. , MY, MY QUESTION, THANK YOU. ON, ON, BACK TO WHAT DENNIS JUST SAID. ARE THEY PART OF THE MS FOUR REQUIREMENTS, TAYLOR, OR IS THAT JUST YES, SIR. NEED TO KNOW? SO WE DO HAVE, UM, REGULATED SITES, BUT THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SITES THAT WE SAMPLE AT, UM, FOR OUR OWN KNOWLEDGE, UM, KIND OF AS MR. GEN SAID, IN AREAS OF, UM, HIGH POPULATION GROWTH AND HIGH DEVELOPMENT. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL REGULATED SITES BY DES THROUGH OUR MS FOUR PERMIT. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY BOARD MEMBERS OR EX OFFICIO PEOPLE? ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS IT APPROPRIATE? YEAH, YOU MAY, MAYBE I'LL GO RIGHT HERE. IT'S GREAT, GREAT TO SEE YOU HERE AT USCB. UM, WHAT IS YOUR WORK WITH BEAUFORT JASPER WATER AUTHORITY? THEY HAVE A TREMENDOUS, UH, PROBLEM LIKE IN PINE CREST AND MANY PLACES IN AREA WITH WATER, WITH [00:15:01] MANGANESE AND SUCH. WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH BEAUFORT JASPER AND ARE YOU HELPING THEM SOLVE THAT ISSUE? WE DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WE DO ANY WORK WITH THEM DIRECTLY RIGHT NOW. UM, WE DO, UM, SOME OF OUR MST DATA THAT WE SHARE WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS SENT TO THEM. IF WE HAVE, UM, IF WE HAVE HUMAN TARGETED HITS AT CERTAIN SAMPLES, UM, IT COULD BE INDICATIVE OF A SEWER LEAK PRO PROBLEM. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE IN CONTACT WITH THEM ABOUT, BUT WE DON'T DO ANY WORK DIRECTLY WITH THEM AT THIS TIME. CAN I ASK YOU UP HERE, ARE YOU AWARE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT BEAUFORT JASPER'S DEALING WITH, WITH ALL THE, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THE WATER THAT'S RUINING A LOT OF THEIR DISHWASHERS, CLOTHES, ALL SORTS OF STUFF. ARE YOU AWARE OF ALL OF THAT OR? I'M NOT, BUT THAT WOULD BE DRINKING WATER AND OBVIOUSLY AS AN MS FOUR, WE'RE FOCUSED ON STORMWATER. THAT'S WHAT OUR PERMIT REQUIRES. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. JUST THANKS. ALRIGHT. BUT WITH ALL THE SAMPLING, I THINK THAT'D BE IDEAL TO MAYBE HELP THEM GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. THEY HAVE A, I THINK IT'S A TWO YEAR PLAN TO GET THAT CLEANED UP AND THESE PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF HORRIBLE WATER. WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO NEW, UM, NEW PARTNERSHIPS, NEW AVENUES. BUT LIKE, UM, ANDREA SAID THEY, THAT IS PRIMARILY MORE DRINKING WATER AND WE ARE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY OKAY. KIND OF CENTERED WITH OUR SAMPLING EFFORTS, BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE ANALYSIS CAPABILITIES TO DO SOME. FANTASTIC. YEAH. THANKS. MAYBE YOU WANNA HOOK UP THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I, THEY WOULD LOVE THAT. COUNCILMAN. I I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT BEAUFORT JASPER WATER NEEDS TO CONTACT, UH, USCB LABORATORY. IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE, I'M GONNA DO AS OPPOSED, AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ALRIGHT. I'LL GET THAT DONE. BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE. YOU GAVE ME A THOUGHT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH, NO PROBLEM AT ALL. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU GUYS. AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE OUR EX-OFFICIO, UH, REPORTS AND, UH, WE'LL START WITH ANDREA MARINO. UM, WELL, LAST TIME I WAS HERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE TOWN STORM DRAIN ART PROGRAM THAT WE WERE GETTING READY TO SEND OUT TO THE PUBLIC. UM, THAT CALL FOR ART IS AGAIN, FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL AGE STUDENTS. UM, AND THAT CALL FOR ART IS OUT UNTIL MARCH 6TH. AND THEN WE'RE HOPING FOR LIKE EARLY JUNE IS WHEN WE'D ACTUALLY BE PUTTING THIS ARTWORK ON THE GROUND. UM, THE TOWN IS ALSO, UM, UNDERGOING REVISIONS TO ITS WETLAND ORDINANCE AND CURRENTLY THE WETLAND ORDINANCE IS OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL MARCH 2ND. UM, AND THEN WE'RE HOPING ALSO FOR EARLY SUMMER JULY, UM, FOR SECOND READING OF TOWN COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION OF ANY CHANGES THAT WE MAKE TO THE ORDINANCE. UM, WE'VE ALSO SELECTED A FIRM FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE TALENT'S RESILIENCE PLAN AND, UH, THE CONTRACT IS TO BE AWARDED AT THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING IN APRIL. UM, CAN'T SAY THE FIRM UNTIL IT'S BEEN AWARDED. UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE STUDIES, SO THE HAYWARD COVE IS COMPLETED AND THE OWNER ASSET REPORTS HAVE BEEN SENT OUT. AND ACTUALLY IT WAS GOING TO, IF Y'ALL WERE INTERESTED, I'M GOING TO HAVE FOR THE APRIL MEETING HERE TO SEE IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE A PRESENTATION AND KIND OF AN UPDATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE JURY STUDIES USING THE HAYWARD COVE AS SORT OF THE EXAMPLE. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. DAN WILL BE THRILLED. UM, AND THEN, UM, ALSO JUST THE GARAGE AND CROOKED COVE UPDATE. SO THE ASSET INVENTORY HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND ASSET OWNER REPORTS ARE BEING PUT TOGETHER RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THE ROSES DO CREEK WATER SUB WATERSHED, WHICH IS CERTAINLY THE LARGEST SUB WATERSHED OF THE MAY RIVER, UM, THAT RFQU IS BEING GENERATED RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S SORT OF IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF PUTTING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, A HOPEFUL AWARD FOR A CONTRACT. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE ONLY OTHER THINGS I HAVE, UM, WAS MORE JUST QUESTIONS FOR TAYLOR LATER, BUT JUST SOME, UM, FEEDBACK ON THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CONNECT AND SOME ASSET MAINTENANCE THAT THE TOWN IS LOOKING FOR. AND THAT'S OWNED BY ONE QUESTION. THE, THE WETLAND ORDINANCE. YEP. CAN YOU SYNOPSIZE THAT? IS, IS THERE SOMETHING NEW OR, UM, SO THE TOWN ADOPTED A WETLAND ORDINANCE THAT IMPOSED A 50 FOOT BUFFER AROUND ALL WETLANDS LAST YEAR. UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY JUNE, UM, OF THIS PAST YEAR THAT IT WENT. UM, AND WE ARE JUST MAKING SOME CLARIFYING CHANGES TO IT. THE TOWN IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT FIRM TO DEVELOP WETLAND ORDINANCES AND A RESILIENCE ORDINANCE. AND SO THIS BASICALLY FEEDBACK FROM OUR CONSULTANT ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE MODIFIED TO OUR CURRENT WELL AND ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, NATE, FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. UM, FOR THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, [00:20:01] UH, WE ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS IN THE DOWNTOWN PROJECTS. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY SEEING SOME PAVING DONE AT THE CHARLES, UH, BAY STREET INTERSECTION. UH, HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THAT WOULD OPEN UP HERE VERY SOON. UH, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE PROJECT IS MOVING PAST THAT INTERSECTION, WORKING ITS WAY TOWARDS CRAVEN. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE UP, UH, ANOTHER BLOCK UP TOWARDS KING STREET AS WELL, UH, WHICH WOULD ALSO CAUSE OTHER CLOSURES, WHICH WE HAVE PUT OUT THE NEW DETOURS AND EVERYTHING THAT WILL BE THERE. UM, I BELIEVE NEXT TUESDAY WILL BE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT UPDATE TO COUNSEL. SO THAT IS FEBRUARY 17TH, UH, I BELIEVE AT 5:00 PM UH, MOST OF THE CITIES, UH, IS NOW BEING PROJECTED ON YOUTUBE, SO IT'S NO LONGER, UH, BEING BROADCASTED THROUGH FACEBOOK. IT IS ON THE YOUTUBE WEBSITE. SO, UH, FOR UPDATES YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND LOOK AT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PORTAL AND IT WILL GIVE, UH, IF NOT DAILY, WEEKLY UPDATES TO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO, THANK YOU MR. INGER. JEFF INGER, TOWNLAND ISLAND. UM, GOT A, A NUMBER OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO SHARE. UH, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF PLANNING THE FISCAL 27 BUDGET AT THE TOWN. UM, WE HAVE FOR YEARS NOT HAD A PROPER PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND WE ARE, WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE WE REALIZE THAT'S A NEED. SO WE'RE STARTING START UP NEXT YEAR IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR PENDING TOWN COUNCIL APPROVAL. IT HAD FOUR NEW POSITIONS, UM, A LOT OF EQUIPMENT, SOME OF OUR FACILITIES FOLKS, UH, WILL ALSO BE IN, IN, IN INCORPORATED INTO THE PUBLIC WORKS, UM, DEPARTMENT. WE'RE GONNA START UP WITH A STORM WATER CREW AS OUR HIGHEST IN, IN FIRST NEED. SO ADD FOUR NEW POSITIONS THERE. UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF UPDATES ON A COUPLE OF OUR MONITORING PROGRAMS THIS FISCAL YEAR. UH, WE'VE STARTED A WEATHER MONITORING PROGRAM THIS YEAR TO, TO GIVE OUR EOC EYES IN THE FIELD TO HELP US CALIBRATE, UH, STORM WATER MODELS ACROSS THE ISLAND, UM, TO PROVIDE US ACTUAL RAINFALL DATA WHEN WE GET SERVICE REQUESTS FOR DEFICIENCIES IN FLOODING TO UNDER RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT. JUST GIVING US MORE INFORMATION. SO WE INSTALLED TWO ALREADY THIS YEAR. WE'RE GONNA INSTALL TWO MORE BY THE END OF THE YEAR WITH A BUILD OUT BY FISCAL 28 OF 10 WEATHER MONITORING STATIONS THAT ALSO TRACK WIND SPEED AND, UH, BAROMETRIC PRESSURE AND TEMPERATURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO, UM, WE HAVE A WATER LEVEL MONITORING PROGRAM THAT WE IMPLEMENTED OUR FIRST TEST PHASE IN ONE OF OUR WATERSHEDS ON THE ISLAND, THE PALMETTO HALL WATERSHED. WE INSTALL WATER, WATER LEVEL MONITORING DEVICES IN NINE LAGOONS. WE'RE HAVING THOSE SURVEYED THIS WEEK SO WE CAN CALIBRATE 'EM AND UNDERSTAND HOW THE SYSTEM BEHAVES. ALL EVENTS AND HELP US TRACK DRAW DOWN TO CREATE ADDITIONAL STORAGE IN ADVANCE OF STORMS. SO WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW THAT GOES THIS YEAR. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. UM, THIS YEAR WE HAVE 15 ACTIVE CIP PROJECTS. TWO OF THOSE ARE COMPLETE. ONE IS PRODUCTION AND 12 THAT ARE IN SURVEY AND OR DESIGN. UH, ONE OF THOSE KEY PROJECTS IS A, IS AN OVERHAUL AND UPGRADE TO OUR CENTRAL ISLAND PUMP STATION. ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT PUMP STATIONS OF THE FOUR WE HAVE ON THAT WE MAINTAIN. UM, JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL IS HAVING A CIP WORKSHOP ON THE 24TH OF FEBRUARY, WHERE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT PRIORITIZATION OF OUR, OF OUR, UM, CIP PROGRAM IN, IN, IN EIGHT DIFFERENT AREAS, INCLUDING WARM WATER. SO TOWN COUNCIL WILL GET A LOOK AT WHAT OUR IDEA OF PRIORITIZATION FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS. AT THE END OF THIS, WE HAVE A RESILIENCE PLAN THAT'S STILL UNDERWAY, BUT IT SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP BY SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. WE COMPLETED THE SWOT ANALYSIS IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR. SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE HAPPY TO HAVE THAT COME TO A CLOSE. THAT'LL HELP INFORM OUR FISCAL, OUR, OUR PLANNING FOR CIP IMPROVEMENTS IN THE UPCOMING YEARS. UM, ALSO WE'RE STARTING A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN EFFORT THIS MONTH. WE ARE ACTUALLY ROUTING THE, THE, UH, JOB WATER FOR SIGNATURES RIGHT NOW. SO LATER THIS MONTH, WE'RE GONNA KICK THAT OFF. LONG OVERDUE TO DO OUR OWN, OUR OWN LOOK AT WHAT WE, UM, OF NOTE OUR BEACH REN NOURISHMENT, UM, EFFORT STARTING LAST AUGUST, A UH, 47 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PROJECT THAT'LL PUT 2.2 KI CUBIC YARDS, MILLION CUBIC YARDS OF SAND ON OUR BEACHES IS JUST OVER HALFWAY DONE AS OF TODAY. THEY'RE PUTTING SAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF KAGEY [00:25:01] BEACH PARK, SO OVER HALFWAY SHOULD BE FINISHED BY THE END OF MAY. WE'RE ALSO IN THE MIDDLE OF A LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE REWRITE, AND WE'VE MADE A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES TO OUR, OUR STORM WATER CHAPTER. UM, WORKING CLOSELY WITH, WITH, UH, JACOB TERRY, OUR WATERSHED MANAGER HERE, AND KELLY WSU OUR OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR STORMWATER. SO IT'S GONNA STRENGTHEN OUR ORDINANCE IN, IN A LOT OF WAYS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF YEARS WITH THIS, WITH THIS KIND OF RUSTY ORDINANCE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT QUALITY, UH, COMPONENTS TO OUR DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AND STRENGTHENING OUR, OUR, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THE, UH, FLOODED. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HILTON HEAD? WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE BUSY AND, UH, TACKLING SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY, UH, UH, NEEDS TACKLING. UH, WE, WE ALL WINE. WE, WE, WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS, ESPECIALLY, UH, FROM THIS BOARD, UH, FROM STORMWATER, UH, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE COUNTY HAS SEVERAL PROJECTS, UH, ONGOING, UH, BECAUSE OF STORMWATER, UH, UH, OR, OR DUE TO STORMWATER, UH, ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. SO, UH, I GUESS THAT, THAT TAYLOR AND HER MANAGEMENT TEAM IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH YOUR TEAM, UH, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES OF WHERE, WHERE, WHERE SOME OF THE LAND IS IN HILTON HEAD, BUT THE ROADS ARE COUNTY ROADS. SO WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, DUAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND A LOT OF THOSE AREAS. AND SOME OF THEM ARE ROADS THAT BORDER COUNTY ROADS OR BORDER UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AREAS. SO, UH, WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH A, A, A UNIFIED PLAN THAT THAT HELPS BASICALLY THE HOMEOWNERS, UH, THAT, THAT ARE SUFFERING. UH, SO GOOD JOB. THANK YOU MR. CARTER. ARE YOU IN ATTENDANCE? HE IS NOT. HE HAD A MEDICAL APPOINTMENT TODAY THAT WAS UNEXPECTED. I APOLOGIZE. BUT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MAINTENANCE REPORT, I'LL FIELD THEM ANYTHING HERE AND WE WILL, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING FROM OUR LIAISON PEOPLE? WE HAVE TO, I DON'T ANYTHING BUT MR. R DOES, PLEASE. UH, I DO, I DO WANT TO SAY, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL FOR MRS. BROWN AND COUNCILMAN RITZ, COUNCIL PERSON, UH, UH, BROWN, UH, FOR REPRESENTING US, UH, TO THE COUNCIL. ALRIGHT. IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET. IT'S WHAT THE, WHAT I LOOK AT LIAISONS, UH, THAT THEY, THEY BRING INFORMATION, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL TO US AND THINGS THAT WE WANT THE COUNCIL TO KNOW ABOUT. WE GIVE THEM, UH, UH, A HEADS UP THAT THEY SHOULD BE BRINGING IT, UH, TO THE COUNCIL. AND SO WE HAVE TWO, UH, UH, REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM COUNCIL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, ATTENDANCE, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, AND YOU FIND LADIES HERE THAT SETS US UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US. IT'S AN HONOR TO SERVE, UH, UH, WITH MS. BROWN ON NOT ONLY THIS STORM ORDER, BUT A LOT OF WHAT WE DO FOR OUR COUNTY. UM, I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO TRY TO GET, BUT TO HEAR MR. INGER TALK ABOUT THE WORK HE'S DOING. I MEAN, WE STARTED THESE PROJECTS TWO YEARS AGO, AUGUST 24, STORM DEBBIE, AND TO COME UP WITH A MASTER PLAN, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS PART OF OUR GOAL, UM, AND TAILOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. WE APPRECIATE THAT. UM, WHAT I WANNA TRY TO DO RIGHT NOW IS ONE, UM, SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT MR. MOORE IS DOING ON DOWN THE LIST TO TAYLOR AND WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE PEOPLE. WE HAVE MAJOR PROJECTS, AS THE CHAIRMAN TALKED ABOUT ON HILTON, HAD BAY PINE'S TIGHT POINT, AND, AND JUST BRADLEY CIRCLE. AND SO MANY PLACES THAT WE HAVE NEGLECTED FOR YEARS. WE'VE LEARNED THAT WE, FROM THESE FINE FOLKS, GENERATIONS HAVE BEEN NEGLECTED. AND QUITE FRANKLY, THEY'RE VERY PLEASED THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEY SUPPORT US. UM, AND ALL, AND I, I PROVIDE A BIWEEKLY OR SO REPORT TO THE FOLKS IN BAY PINES. AND WHAT I WANNA TRY TO GET TO DOVETAIL HERE TODAY IS MR. MOORE AND JARED AND TAYLOR AND BRADLEY ARE WORKING ON A STORMWATER PROJECTS LIST OF BY AREA. [00:30:01] AND I LIKE THE WHOLE ONE FOR HILTON HEAD 'CAUSE THEY DO EVERYTHING THERE. UM, BUT BY DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 11 COUNCILMEN, AS YOU CAN SEE, COUNCIL PEOPLE, UM, AND EACH HAVE STORMWATER ISSUES. UM, AND OF COURSE, I THINK MINE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT, JEFF. SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND I SAY THAT JOKINGLY, UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, SO MY, MY POINT IS, I GO OUT AND MEET AND FIND AND FEEL THESE ISSUES. BRING 'EM IN. WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. YOU, YOURSELVES, UH, MR. FEINBERG, CHAIRMAN FEINBERG, YOU'VE BEEN TO THESE COMMUNITIES. NOT ONLY HAVE I TAKEN YOU THERE, BUT YOU'VE BEEN THERE ON YOUR OWN. AND I KNOW TAYLOR SETS UP MEETINGS. SO THE POINT I JUST WANNA TRY TO DRIVE HOME TODAY IS CAN WE PUT TOGETHER A PROGRESS REPORT, SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE NO MATTER WHAT. IT'S NOT LIKE A LOT OF WORK, BUT HAVE PROJECT REPORTS BASED ON DISTRICTS, UM, AND DOVETAIL WHAT STORM ORDER DOES, WHAT TAYLOR'S DOING. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BERM, UH, THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON WITH MR. SCHROEDER AND TRACY, UM, DIDN'T MAKE THIS CURRENT, UM, UPDATE THAT I GAVE THE ENTIRE TEAM, WHICH INCLUDES THOSE TWO. SO THEY'RE SAYING TO ME, YOU KNOW, GET YOURSELVES TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE TALKING TO TAYLOR. SHE'S COMING IN, WHICH IS GREAT. I I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. I THINK YOU, YOU CAN MOVE THERE AND STILL NOT GET TO ALL THE PROJECTS WE HAVE TO DO. BUT, UM, IF WE CAN GET A, AND, AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, AS TO YOUR EFFORTS AS TO BRING PROJECTS TOGETHER AND HAVE A, A FLOW OF, IN CHRONOLOGICAL HISTORY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE, WHAT'S BEING UNDER VALUATION, WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT FOR BID. UM, SO WE CAN SORT OF HAVE A MORE, UM, UNIFIED APPROACH TO THIS. AND AGAIN, GREAT WORK IS BEING DONE. UM, I HAVE A REPORT HERE THAT I, UM, GAVE TO, UM, SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES WITHIN, UM, HILTON HEAD AS WE TALKED ABOUT. AND SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, WE GET ONE SENTENCES HERE, AND I WANNA SUBMIT THIS. I'LL SUBMIT THIS TO YOU TO KEEP AND GET IT TO THE, THE BOARD. UM, I, I THINK WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE. WE NEED TO ADD MORE DETAIL, UM, TO WHAT WE'RE DOING. IF WE GO AND CLEAN, IF THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED IN BRADLEY CIRCLE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE PROVIDE THEM A MONTHLY REPORT AND IT JUST SAYS WE CLEANED OUT ROADSIDE DITCHES, THAT'S EXCELLENT. BUT, UM, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? I MEAN, THERE'S A TON OF ISSUES THERE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED. WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, AND IT'S GONNA PHASE IN, IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME. BUT WHEN WE SEND A REPORT EVERY MONTH OR TWO, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, AND IT JUST HAS ONE SENTENCE WE CLOSED OUT, WE CLEANED OUT ROADSIDE DITCHES, THEY LOOK AT ME AND SAY, WAIT A SECOND, YOU'VE HAD PEOPLE HERE. YOU'VE GOT 40 THINGS WE'RE GONNA DO. WHY IS THAT? WHY AREN'T WE NOT ADDRESSING THEM IN AN ORDER THAT WE CAN ALL STAY CURRENT WITH? UM, AND, AND AGAIN, SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES SPENT 21 YEARS WAITING FOR US TO GET TO THEIR ISSUES. AND NOW THAT WE'RE THERE, I'M SAYING IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. AND WHY AREN'T WE USING THE TOOLS AND TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE IN HOUSE TO BRING IN WHAT THE BOARD DOES ON YOUR WALKS? AND YOU TAKE NOTES. TALK ABOUT THAT. WHAT TAYLOR DOES WHEN SHE GOES, AND OF COURSE, WHAT I DO WHEN I BRING IT IN, I BRING IT TO EVERYBODY. I LET EVERYBODY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON. SO A AGAIN, UM, THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS RESULTED IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD SAYING, WE NEED A MASTER ISLAND WIDE DRAINAGE PLAN. THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, LET'S EXPAND AND DO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF ORGANIZATION AND, UM, KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT WE DO. AND DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UM, AS FAR AS BEAUFORT, JASPER WATER AND USCB, I THINK THAT COULD BE A A A A MAR MADE IN HEAVEN. THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DESPERATE. THEY CAN'T EVEN FEED THEIR DOGS AND CATS THEIR ANIMALS WATER FROM WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR HOMES. SO MY THING IS, UH, IT MAY COME, I MAY COME THE WRONG WAY OF HOW WE GET PEOPLE TOGETHER, BUT LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SUFFERING, UH, AND NOT ABLE TO DRINK THE WATER, LET ALONE FEED THEIR ANIMALS. THAT WE KNOW MOST OF, MOST OF THE PEOPLE FEEL THEY LIKE THEIR ANIMALS BETTER THAN THEY DO EACH OTHER. SO, UM, HELP ME WITH THAT. UM, AND I BELIEVE WELCOME, UH, ANDREA TO THIS. WELCOME. YOU GOOD. I WISH YOU WELL, AND IF WE CAN HELP YOU IN ANY WAY, LET US KNOW. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING. APPRECIATE THAT. [00:35:01] I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. COUNCIL PERSON RITZ. UH, WE CAN AND SHOULD ASK FOR, UH, A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICITY AND POSSIBLY SOME TIMELINES RIGHT? ON OUR PROJECTS, UH, THAT MRS. BREWER, UH, UH, PROVIDES TO US EVERY OTHER MONTH. UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE DON'T SEE ALL THE WORK THAT'S GOING ON, UH, UH, ALMOST DAILY. ALRIGHT? THERE ARE MANY, MANY PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO TACKLE. UH, UH, WE WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY AND MORE WORK CREWS. UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PAST THAT, UH, CLEANING ROADSIDE DITCHES IS, IS PARAMOUNT TO STORM WATER CONTROL. AND WE DON'T HAVE NEAR ENOUGH PEOPLE DOING THAT WORK IN THE COUNTY, ALRIGHT? THROUGH OUR BUDGETARY PROCESS, UH, TO TAKE CARE OF IT. UH, IT IS JUST A SIMPLE FACT THAT, THAT IT'S A LABOR SHORTAGE. ALRIGHT? SO THAT BECOMES A BUDGET SHORTAGE SHORTFALL. SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE 10 MONTHS OF GROWING SEASON IN THE LOW COUNTRY. UH, WE CAN'T COMPARE OURSELVES TO CHICAGO OR ILLINOIS OR PENNSYLVANIA WHERE THEY HAVE SIX MONTHS OF GROWING SEASON. UH, OUR ROADSIDE DITCHES GROW UP AND GET FILLED IN ALMOST CONTINUALLY. SO WE'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT FROM THIS BOARD STANDPOINT, AT LEAST FROM THE CHAIR STANDPOINT. THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT WE CAN DO EXCEPT ASK YOU ALL AS OUR LIAISONS TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND SAY, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE WALPERT UH, CONSULTING, UH, LOOKING AT CHANGING THE STORMWATER FEE STRUCTURE, ALRIGHT? AND WHERE IT STANDS WITH OUR, OUR, OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES, RIGHT? BUT FROM MY STANDPOINT, UH, UNLESS COUNCIL ALRIGHT, DECIDES WE NEED TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY AND IMPROVE THINGS, WE'LL BE CHASING OUR TAIL FOR SOME TIME. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S FOREVER, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT LONGER THAN I'M SURE THE PUBLIC, UH, THE PEOPLE IN TURTLE LANE. UH, AND, AND SOME OTHERS WANT ANSWERS. NOW, THE PROBLEM I SEE FROM MY STANDPOINT, AND I'D LIKE MY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS TO, TO CHIME IN, UH, THESE, THESE ISSUES DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT THAT THEY'VE BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. AND I UNDERSTAND AS HOMEOWNERS, THEY WANT ACTION AS TAXPAYERS, THEY WANT ACTION. UH, AND THAT WE'RE THE OMBUDSMAN, UH, FOR PEOPLE WHO PAY A STORMWATER FEE. WE'RE HERE TO HEAR YOUR ISSUES. UH, BUT WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THEY'RE GOING TO BE FIXED IN THE TIMELINE THAT YOU WOULD WANT WITHOUT MORE MONEY. AND SO, UH, THEY WILL, THEY, THEY'RE GOING, UH, BEFORE WE, WE HAD VERY FEW PROJECTS, UH, THAT THE PREVIOUS STORMWATER MANAGERS TALKED ABOUT. AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WE HAVE MORE PROJECTS GOING ON NOW THAN THE LAST, I GUESS, UH, OVER 10 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD. SO I BELIEVE THAT OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT IS WORKING EXTREMELY HARD. CAN OUR REPORTS BE MORE FLUSHED OUT WITH TIMELINES AND MORE INFORMATION SO YOU CAN GIVE YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHEN YOU MEET WITH THEM MORE INFORMATION? NO DOUBT. ALRIGHT? BUT THINKING WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE ALL THESE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS OR 30 YEARS IN SOME OF THE CASES OF, UH, ON HILTON HEAD. ALRIGHT? AND SOME OTHER PLACES WITHIN THE COUNTY. WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SNAP OUR FINGERS AND FIX THEM TOMORROW. AND PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE THAT YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT IT ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. IT DIDN'T, YOUR, YOUR CONDITION DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. SO THE FIX ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. AND NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT RAISING TAXES AND RAISING STORMWATER FEES. THERE WILL BE A REALITY TO, UH, SAY, UH, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE AN INCREASE AND THEN ROLL IT BACK WHEN ALL THESE BIG PROJECTS ARE OVER. I MEAN, UH, LIKE THE PENNY TAX. MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A PENNY TAX FOR STORMWATER, UH, SINCE I'M ON THE RECORD. BUT, UH, UH, UH, I KNOW, I KNOW NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT. BUT, UH, PROBABLY THE BEST THING THAT I EVER SAW SINCE I'VE LIVED IN THIS COUNTY FOR 16 YEARS WAS, UH, WE, WE, WE DID AN OVERPASS AND A AND A TOLL ROAD. AND IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN ANYBODY TAKE THE TOLLS DOWN AND SAY, WE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT WE DID, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY MORE MONEY FOR IT. UH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S A HELL OF A WIN. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW TOO MANY OTHER PLACES THAT DO THAT. MAYBE WE NEED TO DO THAT WITH STORMWATER FEES, DOUBLE 'EM FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN, UH, ROLL 'EM BACK AFTER WE GET ALL THESE PROJECTS DONE. UH, UH, I [00:40:01] DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU COUNCIL PERSON, BUT YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR COUNCIL THAT WE NEED HELP. WE NEED MORE MONEY, WE NEED MORE STAFF. UH, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, GENTLEMEN, I'D LIKE YOU YOU TO WEIGH IN. I CAN ECHO A LOT OF WHAT, UH, THE CHAIRMAN HAS SAID. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM. YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME SAY, WE, YOU KNOW, WE LIVED DOWN HERE IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES AND WE NEVER SAW THE FLOODING PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT HAVE, OR NATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER. YOU NEVER SAW THE TYPE OF FLOODING PROBLEMS WE HAVE NOW. BUT, BUT IT'S A, IT'S NOT JUST ONE PROBLEM WITH STORMWATER. IT'S A, IT'S A PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PROBLEM. IT'S A ZONING PROBLEM. I MEAN, YOU CAN ONLY DISPLACE SO MANY PERVIOUS PLACES AND NOT EXPECT THAT WATER TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND IT'S HAPPENING, IT'S HAPPENING CONTINUALLY. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A TIGHTER REIGN ON, ON WHAT WE DO AS FAR AS GROWTH TO TIE IN WITH WHAT YOU WERE TALKING TO ABOUT, UM, REPORTING. AND I'LL, I'LL ASK TAYLOR. 'CAUSE BRADLEY'S NOT HERE RIGHT NOW. SHE MAY KNOW THIS. I'VE BEEN PESTERING BRADLEY FOR OVER A YEAR ABOUT THE STORMWATER PROJECTS. AND I THINK TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK HE SAID, YEAH, WE JUST HAVE A WHITEBOARD IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON A PROGRAM, A, A SPREADSHEET PROGRAM THAT BRADLEY WAS ACTUALLY QUITE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT WHEN I TALKED TO HIM. BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THAT WAS GONNA BE ACTIVE. AND THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME MY DITCH WAS CLEANED OUT? OR WHEN ARE THEY COMING TO CLEAN IT OUT? SO CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT, TAYLOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE? YES, SIR. SO IT'S A TWO-PRONG ISSUE. UM, WE HAVE MOVED OUR, UM, ASSET ASSESSMENT AND, UM, MAINTENANCE PLAN ONTO GIS. UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT SO THAT WE CAN BETTER TRACK IT INTERNALLY. AND THEN THE COUNTY IS ACTUALLY, UM, HAS AN RFQ OUT TO REDO ALL OF THE COUNTY WEBSITES. SO, UH, WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD OFF ON REDOING OUR SPECIFIC WEBSITE BECAUSE THEY WILL ALL BE REDONE, UM, WITHIN THE COMING YEAR OR SO. UM, AND WITH THAT, WE WILL IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALONG WITH, UM, RECORDS ON WHERE WE'VE BEEN FOR THE PUBLIC AND THEN KIND OF THE AREAS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING NEXT AND TIMELINES. SO THAT WILL ALL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, UM, ONCE THE COUNTY FINISHES ITS COUNTYWIDE WEBSITE, REFURBISH TAYLOR, WHO, WHO'S, WHO'S SPEARHEADING THAT ACTIVITY AND COULD OUR IT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED FOR IT. MAYBE WE CAN ASK THAT STORMWATER BE, UH, AHEAD OF THE CURVE WHEN THEY PUTTING THESE THINGS ONLINE. UNDERSTOOD. YES SIR. I CAN EXPRESS THAT DESIRE FROM THE BOARD. MARK. UH, I WORKED ON A PROJECT THIS SUMMER WITH A CONTRACTOR THAT I'VE BEEN DOING CONSULTING WORK AND WE USED TO USE THE WHITEBOARDS AND THE CEO CAME UP WITH, HE'S A TECH GUY. HE SAID, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT? TECH, WE DID FOR LESS THAN $5,000. WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED PROJECTS LISTED THAT ANY ONE OF THE FOREMAN, SUPERINTENDENT OR IN THE ENGINEERING STAFF CAN GO TO THE, UH, PROGRAM, PULL IT UP AND KNOW WHAT EQUIPMENT'S ON THE SITE, HOW MUCH PIPE WE GOTTA PUT IN, HOW MUCH ASPHALT WE'RE DOING, THE WHOLE MARIANNE. AND WE, IT DIDN'T COST THAT MUCH AND IT TOOK THE PEOPLE THAT WE HIRED THREE WEEKS TO DO IT. NOW, I KNOW I'VE SAT HERE WITH DENNIS AND TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE'RE TALKING THREE YEARS AND IT CAN'T BE DONE. I SAY BULL, IT'S SOMETIME IT'S TIME COUNSEL. SOMEONE NEEDS TO TAKE A BASEBALL BAT TO SOME BUTTS AND START MOVING IT DOWN THE ROAD. THAT'S AS FRANK AS I CAN BE. AND I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT IT HASN'T BEEN DONE. HEY, I I'M NOT CUTTING ANYBODY OFF. I'M SAYING THIS TO MIRROR WHAT THE CHAIRMAN SAID IN COLLEAGUES, WE VALUE WHAT WE'RE DOING. IT'S INCREDIBLE THE WORK WE'RE GETTING TO NOW, BUT THE PEOPLE WE, PAUL AND I LIVE WITH THESE PEOPLE. WE GO TO CHURCH WITH 'EM, WE, WE GO TO SCHOOL, WE, WE GO TO PUBLIX AS YOU DO SO. AND FOR WHATEVER THE REASON IS I'M INVOLVED. I JUST LOVE BEING INVOLVED. I LOVE SERVING THIS COMMUNITY. SO MY THING IS, I CAN'T GO AWAY UNTIL THE PEOPLE VOTE ME OUT. AND THAT COULD BE NOVEMBER, WHO KNOWS? BUT, UM, MY THING IS I LOVE WHAT I DO. SO IT, IT, IT'S NOT A POINT OF HAVING THEM HOLD THEIR HORSES. THEY'VE BEEN HOLDING FOR 20 SOME ODD YEARS, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. THEY'VE PAID STORMWATER FEES FOR 21 YEARS, NO SERVICE. UM, THEY, THEY DON'T MIND. IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME. BUT WHEN WE DO REPORTS THAT HAVE JUST ONE SENTENCES TO PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE MET, I MEAN, OUR TE UH, FROM MIKE MORON DOWN, THEY'RE DESPERATE FOR HELP. AND WE SEND THEM ONE SENTENCE OF A DATA, UH, POINT AND I'M LIKE, WAIT A SECOND. THERE'S THREE OR FOUR OF EIGHT OTHER THINGS. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND, HUMBLE COUNCILMAN APPRECIATES EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING. WELL, SOMEBODY HERE AT THIS END TALKED ABOUT A LIVE PORTAL TALKING ABOUT CIP PROJECTS. THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE NOT IT [00:45:01] PEOPLE THAT CAN PUT THOSE PORTALS TOGETHER AND HAVE IT TO WHERE IT'S PROTECTED AND EVERYBODY CAN, INCLUDING THE PEOPLE WE SERVE, CAN SEE WHERE THEIR PROJECTS STAND. AND NOT TO MENTION, I, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT I THINK THIS COUNTY HAS CLOSE TO 2000 EMPLOYEES. I'D SAY. WE START A LITTLE BIT OF A GROUP SAYING, LET'S GET SOME FIRES OUT. AND IF IT'S COMING TO STORMWATER FIRST WE'LL GET A COUPLE IT PEOPLE, A COUPLE OF MANAGERS, A COUPLE OF MANAGERS OF MANAGERS AND PUT THEM TOGETHER AND SAY, YOU KNOW, UNTIL THIS IS TAKEN CARE OF, LET'S HAVE THE, LET'S HAVE THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT GO TO STORMWATER AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMING BACK TO ME SAYING, TAKE A BASEBALL BAT, WHICH I LOVE, OR HIT 'EM OVER THE HEAD. I I LOVE THAT. BUT WHY DO WE HAVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE THAT COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH, ISN'T THAT ENOUGH OF A BAT? HOLY CHRISTMAS? YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT DEBATING WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN, I'M, I'M NOT GOING TO, I'M GONNA CUT YOU OFF. PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS. ALL RIGHT? I DON'T, DON'T LIE THAT ALL ONLY BECAUSE IIII KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE EXTREMELY CARING INDIVIDUAL. WHAT WE CAN'T DO FROM THIS PULPIT AS VOLUNTEERS, RIGHT? AND ADVISORS, ALRIGHT, IT TAKES THE PEOPLE IN THAT EXECUTIVE CONFERENCE ROOM ALONG WITH YOURSELVES, ALRIGHT, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE CAN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE CAN'T ALLOCATE FUNDS AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, AS, UH, UH, MR. WARNER SAID, UH, UH, I, I WISH I COULD JUST SAY FOR RIGHT NOW, TELL ME WHO, WHO TO WRITE THE CHECK FOR $5,000 AND, UH, SOMEBODY WILL REIMBURSE ME AND WE CAN HAVE IT DONE IN THREE WEEKS. UH, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT. ALRIGHT? UNFORTUNATELY. SO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH, UH, THE HOOPS, UH, THAT WE, THAT, THAT WE ARE GOVERNED BY. AND AGAIN, COUNSEL PROBABLY COULD, UH, AND UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A THREE READING TYPE THING, UH, , BUT, UH, WHETHER IT'S A ONE OR A THREE, THEY COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE WORST CASE, RIGHT? THE, THE, THE EASY FIX WOULD BE IN, IN ONE COUNCIL MEETING AND YOU HAVE TWO A MONTH, RIGHT? TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO JUST GO OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND CREATE, UH, WHATEVER, UH, PROGRAM MR. UH, WARNER WAS TALKING ABOUT. BUT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO IT, BUT YOU CAN. SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE BALL BACK ON YOUR COURT AND SAY YOU AND MS. BROWN NEED TO SPEAK UP AT YOUR MEETINGS. OKAY, LET ME JUST END WITH THIS THEN. WHY CAN'T WE INVITE THAT STAFF THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT FROM MR. MORON DOWN TO THIS MEETING? AND, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THREE READINGS. I'M ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME BASICS OF, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A GREAT IT, WE GOT SOME GREAT EMPLOYEE, WE GOT TREMENDOUS EMPLOYEES AND THEY WANNA DO THIS WORK. WE JUST GOTTA CUT 'EM LOOSE. AND MAYBE IT'S AS SIMPLE AS GETTING THEM HERE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN ACT OF CONGRESS THREE READINGS TO GET THINGS DONE. SO NEXT STORM WATER TELLER, WHY DON'T WE INVITE MR. MOORE JAR AND EVERYBODY SO THEY HEAR US AND HEAR THESE PEOPLE SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF. YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND TAKING A BASEBALL BAT TO ANYBODY, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE WRONG APPROACH. I LOVE WORKING WITH EVERYBODY HERE ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I WAS KIND OF STRONG WITH THE BASEBALL BAT, BUT IT WAS FOR EFFECT ON POINT. YOU WERE ON POINT. I'LL SAY ONE MORE THING TO MR. REEDS AND, AND, AND I THINK YOU'VE GAUGED IT AT COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE'VE GAUGED IT HERE. I'VE, I'VE GAUGED IT IN ANOTHER PLATFORMS THAT I, I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SERVE ON THE, THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNTY ARE MORE PALPABLE NOW THAN I THINK I'VE EVER SEEN. AND THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOMETHING DONE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE TYPE OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY IS SLOW AND IT TAKES TIME AND IT'S, IT, IT IS FRUSTRATING. AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW WHAT MR. CHAPMAN HAD SAID EARLIER, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS PROBLEM FOR A YEAR. HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT? UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A PROCESS. AND UNTIL WE CHANGE OUR PROCEDURE, AND I THINK YOU, YOU AND I MAY HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AT ONE POINT. IT'S, IT'S JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO BE THAT WAY AND IT'S, IT'S TERRIBLE WHAT WE DO. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. LET'S GO. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UM, MS. BREWER'S STATUS REPORTS. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS, EXPERT EX OFFICIOS AND CHAIRMAN FEINBERG. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UM, JUST TO DI UM, DIRECTLY ADDRESS THE MOST RECENT TOPIC. SO THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT WE ARE IN [00:50:01] THE PROCESS OF DOING. UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE MOVED OUR, UM, MAINTENANCE INVENTORY. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ONLINE, OUR INVENTORY, BUT WE ARE NOW MOVING OUR CONDITION ASSESSMENTS TO OUR GIS. THAT WAY WHEN OUR INSPECTION ASSESSMENT TEAM GOES OUT AND DECIDES THAT A PIPE OR AN ASSET THAT WE HAVE IS IN POOR OR FAIR CONDITION, IT'S LABELED DIFFERENTLY IN OUR ASSET. SO THAT THEN STEVEN CARTER AND I CAN IMMEDIATELY IN THE OFFICE SEE THEIR REPORTS. WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON TYING THE VIDEOS FROM OUR CCTV VAN AND ROVER INTO OUR, UM, INVENTORY, WHICH I THINK WILL BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL. UM, SO WE WILL HAVE AN BETTER ACCESSIBLE INVENTORY OF OUR CAMERA WORK THAT WE DO ON OUR ASSETS. UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO REQUESTED A SMARTSHEETS APPLICATION, UM, TO TRACK ALL OF OUR PROJECTS AND MAINTENANCE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WIDE. UH, STORM WATER IS ONE OF THE FIRST THAT WILL BE ISSUED A LICENSE FOR SMARTSHEETS. SO THAT'S BEING HELD THROUGH OUR ID DEPARTMENT, BUT SHOULD BE HANDLED WITHIN THE NEXT ONE TO TWO MONTHS. UM, AND WE ARE ACTIVELY TAKING TRAINING FROM OUR FACILITIES DIRECTOR BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY USING SMARTSHEETS AND THINKS THAT IT'S A FABULOUS PROGRAM. SO WE'VE MADE A COUPLE OF, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THERE AS FAR AS, UM, TECHNOLOGY AND MOVING AWAY FROM THE WHITEBOARDS AND HAND TRACKING OF OUR SYSTEMS. UM, IN THE MEANTIME, IN LIEU OF A, UM, WORKABLE APP THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED FOR THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE STARTED POSTING OR CONTINUE TO POST ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE REPORTS ONLINE. UM, SO THE MAPS AND MAINTENANCE REPORTS THAT MS. JOANNA AND STEVEN COME UP WITH ARE PUBLICLY VIEWABLE ON OUR STORMWATER PAGE. IT IS IN A PDF FORMAT AND WE WILL WORK TO MAKE THAT MORE INTERACTIVE, BUT FOR THE TIME, THAT'S A WAY THAT OUR PUBLIC CAN GO AND ACCESS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS AND YEARS. CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION TO THAT? ABSOLUTELY. UM, WE HAVE OUR, I CAN'T THINK OF A PROPER WAY TO PUT THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL THESE FUNCTIONS THAT STORMWATER GOES TO AND WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY THE, THE DOG POOP PERSON, RIGHT? AND THEY GO OUT THERE AND PROMOTE PICKING UP ANIMAL WASTE AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS. I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS, AND I, I CAN'T RECALL, IT WAS AT OUR SIT DOWN MEETING IN THERE WHERE EVEN MR. FLIK SAID, I DON'T EVEN THINK MY WIFE KNOWS HOW TO ACCESS HALF OF THE THINGS WE DO. WE NEED TO MEET, START MAKING OURSELVES MORE VISIBLE FOR THESE ITEMS THAT ARE VERY TOP OF MIND FOR PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY STORMWATER, TO START GOING TO SOME OF THESE FUNCTIONS AND GO, HERE'S THE APP, HERE'S HOW YOU CAN GET IT ONLINE. WE NEED TO HAVE INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO. YOU CAN'T MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND UNLESS THEY SEE IT AND THEY KNOW IT'S AVAILABLE. YES, SIR. AND I'VE HEARD THAT REQUEST FROM THE BOARD AND MY RESPONSE WAS TO, UM, REQUEST AN IMPLORE THAT OUR EDUCATION COORDINATOR BE MOVED EXPLICITLY TO STORM WATER AND EXCLUSIVELY TO STORMWATER. UM, SHE'S BEEN HANDLING SOLID WASTE AS WELL AND ALL OF PUBLIC WORKS. SO JUST AS OF LAST WEEK, SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING HAS INTERVIEWED AND SELECTED AN ENVIRONMENTAL COORDINATOR OF THEIR OWN. UM, SO MS. VALENTINO WILL BE MOVING SOLELY TOWARDS STORMWATER IN AN EFFORT TO BETTER INFORM OUR CITIZENS ON WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND TO BETTER DEVELOP FUTURE PROGRAMS. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE RIGHT INTO OUR UTILITY UPDATE. SO AS WE MENTIONED, UM, WILPERT IS CONDUCTING A STORMWATER UTILITY FEE STUDY. UM, AT THE DIRECTION OF MANAGEMENT WE HAVE KIND OF TWEAKED OUR APPROACH. SO WE ARE NOW NOT ONLY STUDYING OUR FEE STRUCTURE AND UM, HOW TERRIBLE IT IS, BUT WE ARE IN ADDITION LOOKING AT OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE AND OUR CURRENT BUDGETARY NEEDS AND SEEING IF THAT'S ALIGNED WITH WHERE WE NEED TO BE. UM, SO THEY WILL GIVE US AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE OPERATING AT AS FAR AS LEVEL OF SERVICE IF WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THAT WITH STAFF AND EQUIPMENT. AND THEN THEY WILL GIVE US, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EITHER, UM, RESTRUCTURING AND PUTTING THE BRUNT MAJORITY ON COMMERCIAL OR INCREASING FEES. BUT WE'LL HAVE OPTIONS AT THE END OF THE FEE STUDY. BUT COMING OUT OF THAT, WE WILL KNOW AS A WHOLE HOW WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE, BOTH FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AND THEN UM, MUNICIPALITIES IF NECESSARY. NOW WALBERGS BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR WELL OVER A YEAR NOW, RIGHT? NOT CONSISTENTLY. UM, WE DID FIRST TASK THEM WITH THAT, UM, BUT THEN THEIR FIVE YEAR CONTRACT CAME UP FOR RENEWAL AS FAR AS ON-CALL AND WE WERE INSTRUCTED BY PROCUREMENT NOT TO ISSUE ANY MORE TASK ORDERS AT THAT TIME. THAT WAS COMING OUTTA LAST FISCAL YEAR. SO THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY ON HOLD FOR FOUR MONTHS, UM, DUE TO PROCUREMENT, BUT WE HAVE AN ACTIVE CONTRACT BACK NOW WITH THEM FOR ON-CALL. SO WE ARE HITTING IT HARD AND GETTING BACK INTO, UM, THE FEE STUDY AS A PRIORITY. HAVE THEY GIVEN YOU A TIMELINE? [00:55:01] UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT SIX MONTHS TO HAVE THE FEE STUDY COMPLETED AND HAVE SOME GOOD, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BOARD AS FAR AS A NEW STRUCTURE. UH, THIS ON CALL HELP ME HERE. PLEASE UNDERSTAND. I THOUGHT IT WAS ON CALL IN IN MY PARLANCE WAS THERE'S AN EMERGENCY AND WE NEED TO CALL IN, UH, AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO HELP US. THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT INTO AN ON CALL OPERATION. IT'S LIKE IT'S A PROJECT THAT WE KNOW WE NEEDED TO HAVE DONE. HOW DOES THAT, IS IS THE WORDING DO, DO I MISUNDERSTAND THE WORDING ON CALL? UM, SO TO EXPLAIN OUR ON-CALL CONTRACT FOR ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES IS, WE CALL IT FOR SPECIFIC STORMWATER SPECIFIC. UM, HAS HANDLED IN TRADITIONALLY OUR MS FOUR PROGRAM ASSISTANCE. UM, AND WE'VE USUALLY HAD ONE FIRM ON CALL, WHICH HAS BEEN WILPERT FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. UM, OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS MULTIPLE ON CALL A AND E FIRMS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS. UM, WE DO ASSIGN THEM LARGE PROJECTS. WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY, UM, TASKED THEM WITH OUR DRAINAGE STUDIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, WE HAVE ADDED TWO ADDITIONAL FIRMS TO OUR ON-CALL LIST FOR STORMWATER SPECIFIC, UM, IN AN EFFORT TO HAVE MORE EXPERTISE ACCESSIBLE TO US WHEN NEEDED. BUT THEY DO HAVE A CONTINUOUS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, UM, TASK ORDER IN WHICH THEY HELP US WITH NOT ONLY OUR MS FOUR PROGRAM BUT OUR STORMWATER UTILITY FEE TAX RUN AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN NECESSARY. SO IT, IT IS FOR EMERGENCIES BUT THERE ARE ALSO REGULAR PROJECTS THAT WE'VE TASKED THEM WITH. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, UH, UH, AND IF, IF YOU CAN'T, THAT'S OKAY. IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT UNDER PUBLIC WORKS HANDLES THE ROUTINE DAILY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY, UH, STORM WATER ACTIVITIES, WHETHER IT BE SAMPLING, WHETHER IT BE CLEANING DITCHES AND PIPES AND ROADWAYS WHERE ALL THE SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS ARE FARMED OUT. IS THAT A TRUE STATEMENT? THAT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY, BUT WE HAVE TRIED TO BEEF UP AND TRAIN UP OUR IN-HOUSE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE SOME OF THESE LARGER PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY LIKE PIPE INSTALLS WHERE WE'RE SIMPLY UPSIZING. UM, WE WOULD'VE LOVED TO DO THE BAY PINES PROJECT IN-HOUSE, BUT UM, OUR CAPACITY WAS NOT WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE AT THE TIME. SO WE ARE LOOKING TOWARDS DOING SOME LARGER PROJECTS IN-HOUSE, UM, DESIGN AND INSTALLATION. BUT YES, HISTORICALLY IT'S BEEN CONTRACTED OUT. THANK YOU. YES SIR. UH, MOVING ON TO OUR SOLO CODE DESIGN MANUAL EDITS. UM, AS STATED TON OF BLUFFTON GENEROUSLY SHARED WITH US, UM, THE COPY THAT THEY HAD ADOPTED THROUGH THEIR COUNCIL, UM, AND THE EDITS THAT THEY HAVE, UM, ADOPTED INTO THE SOLO CO MANUAL, WE HAVE TAKEN THAT AND LOOKED AT IT. UM, OUR, ONE OF OUR MAIN GOALS FOR THIS WAS TO FORMAT THE MANUAL PROPERLY AND REDUCE ANY KIND OF, UM, CONTRADICTIONS THAT WERE FOUND IN THE MANUAL SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE WHAT WE CALL AN ADOPT WORTHY MANUAL TO OUR, UM, OTHER LOVELY COUNTIES THAT WE ARE ADJACENT WITH AND MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN BEAUFORT COUNTY AS WELL. UH, WE KIND OF WANNA DO A SOLO CO MANUAL ROAD TRIP, UM, AND TO ENCOURAGE OUR NEIGHBORS TO ADOPT FORMALLY THE SOLO CO MANUAL IN AN ATTEMPT TO KIND OF, UM, REGIONALIZE THE PLANNING AND ZONING THAT MR. DENNIS BROUGHT UP. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PLACES LIKE HARDY V WITHIN JASPER COUNTY? YES, SIR. AMONG OTHERS, THEY STILL GIVING YOU THE STIFF ARM? THEY'RE NOT. WE HAVE UM, HAD VERY FAVORABLE RESPONSES. UM, THEY WENT TO THEIR COUNT, THEIR COUNCIL WITH A SMALLER VERSION AS THEY CALLED IT, A KIND OF A MINI SOLO CO MANUAL. UM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF OR FUNDING TO IMPLEMENT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO THROUGH THES MANUAL, BUT THEY DO WANT TO, UM, ENCOURAGE BETTER DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THEIR DESIGN MANUALS. SO I THINK THAT THE AIR IS PALATABLE. GOOD. THEY BETTER GET ON BOARD NOW 'CAUSE THINGS ARE MOVING FAST OVER THERE. . YES SIR. AND WE DO, IN ADDITION TO THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH PORT ROYAL SOUND. UM, THEY'RE WORKING TO CREATE WHAT THEY'RE CALLING A TOOLKIT FOR SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES THAT DON'T HAVE STAFF. AND ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD GIVE THEM, UM, A FINISHED EDITED VERSION OF THE SOLO CODE MANUAL AND ANY KIND OF DOCUMENTS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PRESENT TO THEIR COUNCIL [01:00:01] FOR ADOPTION. UM, TRYING TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS THEM AS WE CAN ON THEM. YES SIR. MOVING INTO OUR, UH, PROJECTS REPORT, UM, FOR ALL JOY, WE HAD AN IN-PERSON WORKSHOP IN JANUARY WITH SEMEN WHITESIDE STAFF. THEY HAVE COMPLETED THE CURRENT CONDITIONS MODELING, BASICALLY SHOWING, UH, WHERE THE CURRENT INUNDATION IS. UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE AN ALL JOY COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, COMING UP TO DISCUSS THOSE RESULTS WITH THE RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN KIND OF FACT CHECK YES OR NO, UM, AND ENSURE THAT THE FLOODING THAT THEY'VE SEEN ON SITE IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN OUR MODELING. UM, SO THAT ONCE WE MOVE TOWARDS PROPOSED SOLUTIONS, WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING FROM THE FRONT END. HAS THE DATE BEEN SET? UH, YES SIR. MARCH 12TH. AND WHERE IS THAT GONNA BE? UM, I BELIEVE IT'S AT THE BLUFFTON LIBRARY, BUT I WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT. UM, IT CAN YOU, ONCE THAT'S FIRMED UP, CAN YOU SEND, SEND OUT AN UPDATE TO THE BOARD PLEASE? YES SIR. AND THEN THAT WILL ALSO BE, UH, POSTED ON THE ALL JOY COMMUNITY PAGE THAT WAS CREATED FOR ALL THINGS ALL JOY THAT CAN BE FOUND THROUGH OUR COUNTY WEBSITE. HEY MARK, IF THAT MEETING COMES ABOUT AND YOU NEED ME TO GO THERE, JUST GIMME A SHOUT. THANK YOU. DON'T CALL ME. OKAY. NO CALL OUT. DO YOU WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS WILL BE, UM, A JOINT MEETING WITH, UM, ENGINEERING? SO WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE AJOY BOAT LANDING AS WELL. MOVING ON TO BAY PINES. UM, I WAS ON SITE YESTERDAY, UM, WITH MS. BRADY AT 33 BAY HINES. SHE'S ONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WE NEED TO OBTAIN AN EASEMENT FROM. UM, I WALKED HER BACKYARD WITH HER. WE LOOKED AT A PLAYHOUSE THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED, BUT SHE IS, UH, AGREEABLE TO SIGNING A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. WE LEFT A GENERIC, UH, SAMPLE AGREEMENT WITH HER TO LOOK OVER TO SEE IF SHE HAD ANY QUESTIONS AND OUR RIGHT OF WAY NEW RIGHT OF AWAY MANAGER. MS. KELSEY FLOYD IS IN THE PROCESS OF DRAWING UP SITE SPECIFIC DOCUMENTS TO BE EXECUTED. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO CONTACT THE FAMILY ON THE SOUTHERN END. UM, I DID KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR YESTERDAY AND NO ONE ANSWERED, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRY TO PURSUE THAT EASEMENT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT NUMBER THAT IS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? YEAH, UM, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN LOOK AT UP. JUST WE WANNA MAKE SURE COUNCILMAN RITZ GETS THAT NUMBER. YES SIR. I BELIEVE HE'S AWARE. UM, WE WERE FORMALLY TALKING TO THE NEIGHBOR, BUT UH, SHE HAS A POOL THAT WOULD HAVE INTERFERED AND I I UNDERSTAND THAT. YES SIR, THAT, THAT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I PUT THAT OUT IN MY NEXT UPDATE. AND I DID HEAR THE REQUEST TO BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH REPORTS, SO I'LL DO MY BEST TO ADD IN TIMELINES AND DETAILS WHERE AND WHEN NECESSARY. UM, THE FENCE IN THE FENCE INSTALLATION HAS STARTED OUT AT BAY PINES. ABOUT 75% OF THE NEW POLES ARE UP. WHEN WE WERE ON SITE YESTERDAY, STAFF WAS PREPARING TO REMOVE THE OLD FENCE. UH, WE DID CONFIRM FENCE PLACEMENT AND GOT AN, UM, ESTIMATED TIMELINE THAT THE PRO THE FENCE SHOULD BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO MARCH 9TH. SO WE ARE GONNA HOLD OUR CONTRACTOR TO THAT. UM, SO THE PROJECT, THE CONSTRUCTION FOR UPSIZING, THE CROSSLINE PIPES OUT AT BAY PINES IS OVER OUR THRESHOLD FOR UM, HAVING TO GO OUT TO BID. SO THAT PROJECT WILL GO LIVE, UM, THROUGH AN INVITATION FOR BID, UM, LATER THIS WEEK. AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH BRINGING THAT CONTRACT AWARD TO COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL WHEN, WHEN NECESSARY FOR, UM, SHELL POINT. I AM WORKING WITH STAFF AND COUNCILWOMAN HOWARD TO SCHEDULE A COMMUNITY MEETING TO UPDATE STAFF ON THE MOVEMENT OF THAT. UM, JUST TO REMIND YOU, WE'VE DECIDED TO TAKE THE MAINTENANCE EASEMENT CLEARING PROJECT IN-HOUSE. UM, WE DID PURCHASE A SPECIFIC PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT FOR A WHILE THAT WE THINK WOULD, UH, FACILITATE THAT. UH, THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WAS DELIVERED ON JANUARY 18TH TO MULCHER HEAD AND PROMPTLY THE JOHN DEERE 85 P THAT ATTACHES TO THAT MULCHING HEAD, WENT DOWN WITH A HYDRAULIC LEAK AND HAD TO BE SENT BACK TO SAVANNAH. UM, THAT'S PUT US THREE WEEKS BEHIND ON THAT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT RENTING A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IF NECESSARY TO GET THAT PROJECT KICKED OFF A LITTLE QUICKER SO THAT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO BE BEHIND ON TIMELINE FOR RIVER'S END. UM, THAT PROJECT WAS POSTED AN INVITATION FOR BID AND UM, THE COMPANY THAT WAS AWARDED [01:05:01] TO IS CALLED GULFSTREAM CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. UH, PROCUREMENT IS WORKING TO ISSUE A CONTRACT WITH THEM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A NOTICE PROCEED AND A PRE-CON MEETING SHORTLY AFTER THAT. I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, UM, GIVING US AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE TO START BA UM, RIVERS INN WITHIN THREE MONTHS FOR OKT RIVER PARK. UM, I NEED TO REACH OUT TO MS. STEPHANIE WITH PASSIVE PARKS OR LAND PRESERVATION DEPARTMENT. UM, WE GOTTA PRELIMINARY OKAY, FOR A WEIR DESIGN TO HAVE A BRIDGE GO ACROSS IT AT THE OUTFALL OF THAT POND THAT WILL BETTER MATCH THE AESTHETICS OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE FOR THE NEW PASSIVE PARK. UM, SO WE ARE WORKING WITH NOT ONLY A GEOTECH FIRM, BUT WE WILL HAVE A STRUCTURAL DESIGN FIRM ON STAFF AS WELL TO HELP, UM, DESIGN THE WALK ACROSS BRIDGE THAT WAS REQUESTED, UM, IN LIEU OF A SIMPLE CONCRETE BOX. AND, UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT JUST AESTHETIC, I THINK IT WILL HELP WITH EXPLAINING STORMWATER FEATURES AND I THINK IT'LL MAKE STORMWATER A LITTLE BIT FUN. SO WE PLAN TO PUT SOME EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE OUT THERE WITH IT JUST TO KIND OF EXPLAIN, HEY, THIS ISN'T JUST A NORMAL BRIDGE, THIS WORKS AS WATER QUALITY AND QUANTITY CONTROL. SO I THINK THAT'S A NICE ADDED, UM, BENEFIT OUT THERE AT THAT PROJECT. ARE WE DOING THAT IN HOUSE OR SOMEBODY? DO WE BID THAT OUT? UH, WILPERT WORKED ON THE, WORKED WITH A SUB CONSULTANT THAT THEY HAVE THAT SPECIALIZES IN GEOTECH. UM, OUR FIRST STEP WAS MAKING SURE THAT THE DAM WASN'T REGULATED, WHICH IT'S NOT. SO WE PROCEEDED WITH DESIGN FOR ROYAL PINES. UM, AS STATED, I GOT A, I RECEIVED A VERBAL OKAY FROM OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO START DEVELOPING A BUYOUT PROGRAM. OF COURSE, THE PROGRAM WOULD HAVE TO BE FULLY DEVELOPED BEFORE WE PUSHED IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT SOME REQUIREMENTS, LOOKING AT INUNDATION LEVELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, FOR, TO BE ABLE TO OFFER BUYOUTS TO CITIZENS THAT HAVE HAD REPEAT ISSUES WITH STORMWATER INUNDATION. UM, I THINK THAT OUR, KIND OF OUR MODEL WOULD BE GREENVILLE COUNTY. UH, THEY'RE VERY SUCCESSFUL UP THERE. THEY CALL IT A STORMWATER MINI PARK PROGRAM. UM, THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE PIECE OF LAND AFTER, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD WANT TO REMOVE ANY STRUCTURES. UH, IT CAN BE EITHER LEFT TO RETURN TO A NATURAL STATE OR WE COULD CHOOSE TO MAKE IT A PROJECT AND INSTALL SOME SORT OF BMP, BUT THAT WOULD BE SITE SPECIFIC BASED ON EACH PROPERTY. BUT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THAT PROGRAM COMING TO FRUITION. I CAN'T RECALL, DID, DID WE HAVE GREEN SPACE INVOLVED WITH THAT OR ARE THEY, GREEN SPACE DID EXPRESS, UM, THE DESIRE TO PARTNER ON LARGER SCALE PROJECTS IN WHICH THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THE LAND, AND THEN STORMWATER WOULD COME IN AND FUND A BMP TYPE PROJECT, UM, WHERE THE ONLY CONDITION WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD NEVER BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S A, ALTHOUGH THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE PERFECT FIT FOR THE ROYAL PINES SPECIFIC SITUATION, I DO THINK THAT THAT HAS BROUGHT UP A LARGER PARTNERSHIP THAT COULD BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IN THE FUTURE. SHOULD THE, AND THEY'RE STILL NEED ARISE, STILL INTERESTED IN THIS, YOU'RE STILL INTERACTING WITH 'EM? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. LET ME UNDERSTAND. IF WE DID GET GREEN SPACE INVOLVED, ALRIGHT. WE COULD ON THEIR DIME INSTEAD OF OUR STORMWATER FUND PAYING FOR IT ALL, UH, WE COULD KEEP A LOT MONEY IN OUR FUND AND USE THE GREEN SPACE FUNDING. IF, IF IN FACT THE, THE, THE CITIZENS WANNA BE BOUGHT OUT, THAT WOULD BE SET. SO THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE BUYOUT PROGRAM. SO THE GREEN SPACE COLLABORATION, YOU GOTTA DO ONE BEFORE THE OTHER, CORRECT? NO, SIR. IT CAN BE KIND OF, UM, IT CAN COINCIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO SEPARATELY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. UM, THEY'RE JUST TWO IDEAS THAT HAPPEN TO WRAP TOGETHER FOR THE SPECIFIC ROYAL PINES AREA. BUT THE BUYOUT PROGRAM WOULD BE, UM, COUNTYWIDE AND THEN THE HOPEFULLY GREEN SPACE COLLABORATION WOULD BE OPEN TO FUTURE, UM, IDEAS AS WELL, NOT JUST FOR THE ROYAL PINES AREA, BUT YES, THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT GREEN SPACE WOULD PURCHASE THE LAND. WE WOULD COME IN AND DO A STORMWATER PROJECT AND IMPLEMENT BMPS TO REDUCE, UM, WATER QUANTITY FROM, FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW, IS, IS THAT NOT ONE OF THE BETTER IDEAS? YES, SIR. I THINK THAT IT COULD BENEFIT BOTH PROGRAMS AS WELL AS, UM, THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE. SO WE'RE LOOKING NOT, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE THAT COLLABORATION FOR THE FUTURE, NOT JUST FOR THE ROYAL PINES AREA, BUT POTENTIALLY FOR OTHER AREAS AS WELL. [01:10:01] HOW DO YOU INTERACT WITH GREEN SPACE? DO YOU DO IT IN A FORMAL COMMITTEE? HOW DOES, HOW, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? UM, THE COUNTY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WOULD BE THE APPLICANT FOR THE PARCEL. UM, AND THEN LIKE STORMWATER STAFF WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE FORWARD THE GREEN SPACE APPLICATION. MY INTERACTIONS UP TO THIS POINT HAVE JUST BEEN CONVERSATIONS AS WE GET CLOSER, IF THAT DOES COME TO FRUITION, UH, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET, UH, MARK DAVIS IN HERE OR SOMEONE ELSE TO FULLY EXPLAIN TO THE BOARD OF HOW THIS ACTUALLY MIGHT TRANSPIRE AND MAKE ABSOLUTELY THAT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE TOO, SO THAT FOLKS CAN BECOME EDUCATED, WHICH I THINK IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. YES, SIR. I AGREE. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY, UM, HAVE HIM COME IN AND DO A PRESENTATION ON HIS GREEN SPACE PROGRAM AND THE POSSIBILITIES OF INTERTWINING THAT WITH STORMWATER. THAT, THAT ONE KNOWING, UH, NOT TO OVERUSE THE WORD SUFFERING, UH, PUBLIC THAT LIVES IN THAT AREA. UH, IF WE DON'T MEET FOR ANOTHER 60 DAYS, MAYBE THAT COULD HAPPEN IN OUR NEXT MEETING. YES, SIR. NOTED. THANK YOU. UM, THAT BRINGS ME TO OUR LAST PROJECT ON THE LIST, UM, ARTHUR HORN WETLANDS RESTORATION. THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST EXCITING PROJECT FOR ME. UM, WE HAVE ISSUED THE CONTRACT TO BLACK AND VEATCH. WE WILL HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING VERY SOON WITH BLACK AND VEATCH, BUT JUST TO REITERATE, THE IDEA IS TO RESTORE WETLANDS, UM, FUNCTION AND STORMWATER FUNCTION TO THIS AREA IN PORT ROYAL. IT BORDERS ALSO ON CITY OF BEAUFORT, UM, TO GIVE FLOOD RELIEF, BUT ALSO CREATE HABITAT AND KIND OF POSSIBLY MIRROR, UM, A CYPRESS WETLANDS KIND OF SITUATION. SO THERE'S ALSO BEEN TALK OF FUTURE CONNECTIVITY TO THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL, AS WELL AS POSSIBLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CONNECTION TO CYPRESS WETLANDS AS WELL. SO I THINK, UH, NOT ONLY WOULD THIS BE A GREAT STORMWATER PROJECT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT FOR ALL THREE MUNICIPALITIES GOING FORWARD FOR A STAFF UPDATE. UM, I DID WANT TO MENTION WHEN WE WERE, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT. YES, SIR. SORRY. UH, I NOTICED OAK MARSH WASN'T ON THIS LIST. COULD YOU GIVE ME A, UM, NO, SIR. WE ARE HANDLING THAT MORE IN THE MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, BUT WE DID DO A HUGE MAINTENANCE EFFORT IN THAT AREA. UM, AND I CAN GET YOU ALL OF THIS. OH, ONLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT AGAIN, THERE WAS A STORM WATER ISSUE THERE. YES, SIR. AND SO I THINK IT BELONGS IN OUR STORMWATER PROJECT LIST. UH, AS, AS TO WHERE WE ARE ON THAT, UH, I VISITED THAT SITE AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A STATE ROAD INVOLVED, UH, THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO A STORMWATER RUNOFF PROBLEM. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A HUGE MAINTENANCE THING, AND THEN THERE'S ROADS THAT I, I'M NOT SURE WHO THE HELL OWNS THE ROADS, EXCUSE MY FRENCH. UH, WHETHER IT'S COUNTY OR WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE OR WHETHER IT'S HILTON HEAD, SOMEBODY OWNS THOSE ROADS. UH, AND WE KNOW THAT THE DRAINAGE WAS UNDERSIZED. SO, UH, UH, BOTH COUNCIL PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE WITH ME. SO WE, WE KNOW THAT'S A, AN ISSUE. AND AGAIN, IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING AS IS IT DONE? IS IT FINISHED? UH, DO WE EXPECT ANY, ANY MORE PROBLEMS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE? UNDERSTOOD, YES SIR. I WILL PUT THAT INTO MY PROJECTS UPDATE. UM, SO I CAN GIVE A MORE DETAILED UPDATE ON THAT AREA. UH, OUR PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTS UPDATE, AS I SAID LAST TIME, UM, WE HAD THREE FIRMS THAT WERE CHOSEN, WILPERT, DAVIS, AND FLOYD AND MCADAMS. UM, PROCUREMENT IS IN THE PROCESS OF ISSUING CONTRACTS. I KNOW WILPERT HAS A FULLY EXECUTED CONTRACT, AND I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THE OTHER TWO, UM, THIS WEEK. BUT WE ARE EXCITED, UM, THE WAY THAT WE KIND OF FRAMED IT IN OUR MINDS, WHERE WILPERT HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF HELPING US WITH PRO PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND OUR MS FOUR IMPLEMENTATION. UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT ADDING ON DAVIS AND FLOYD FOR THEIR LOCAL KNOWLEDGE AND, UM, DESIGN EXPERTISE. AND THEN I THINK THAT MCADAMS WILL ADD A GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE FLARE TO OUR TEAM, UM, AND BE READY TO HANDLE PROJECTS THAT HAVE AN INTERESTING, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT FOR OUR STAFF UPDATE. UM, I DID WANT TO SPEAK TO, UM, MR. ED WARNER SPECIFICALLY. UM, WE DID RECLASS A CURRENT POSITION THAT WE HAVE IN STORMWATER FOR A STORMWATER SPECIFIC GIS ANALYST. WE DO THINK THAT THIS WILL HELP US TAKE OUR INVENTORY AND ASSESSMENT, UM, TO GIS IN A SMOOTHER, FASTER PROCESS THAN GOING THROUGH IT. UM, WE WERE APPROVED FOR THAT. [01:15:01] THE PERSONNEL ACTION FORM HAS ALREADY BEEN, UM, SIGNED ALL THE WAY UP, SO IT SHOULD GO LIVE AND BE ADVERTISING WITHIN THE MONTH. UM, AND WE DO THINK THAT THAT WILL HELP US. IT'S NOT GIS SPECIFIC, IT'S KIND OF A CATCHALL FOR HELPING US WITH, UM, PROGRAM RECORD RETAINMENT, UM, GOING DIGITAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF TASKS THAT DOWN THE PIPELINE FOR THAT PERSON. BUT WE DO THINK THAT WILL EXPEDITE, UM, HAVING OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM ON A MORE REGIMENTED AND AUTOMATED SYSTEM. IN ADDITION, WE REQUESTED FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, ANOTHER VAC TRUCK OPERATOR IN ADDITIONAL FOREMAN TO ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE WORKERS AND AN ADDITIONAL EPS SKI EX INSPECTOR. UM, AND THIS WAS AT THE REQUEST OF MANAGEMENT, THE BOARD AND CITIZENS TO INCREASE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE'RE OFFERING CURRENTLY. SO, UM, WE WILL WAIT TO HEAR MORE FOR THAT. WE INCORPORATED THAT INTO OUR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR 27 QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. YES, MA'AM. AGAIN, BACK TO THE LEFT LIBRARY. THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY MEETING FOR ALL JOY DISCUSSION, DISCUSS THE DRAINAGE STUDY, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING. THE, THE, UM, CURRENT MODELING REPORT FROM SEMEN WHITESIDE, WHICH IS OUR CONTRACTOR ON THE ALL JOY DRAINAGE STUDY. WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, WHICH WILL GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE ALL JOY BOAT LANDING, UM, PROJECT ALL JOY BOAT LANDING AND DRAINAGE STUDY AND DRAINAGE STUDY. OKAY. YES MA'AM. THANKS SO MUCH. I JUST HOPE THE YOU'RE WELCOME. PLEIN LIBRARY WILL BE LARGE ENOUGH, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE MIXING SOME APPLES AND ORANGES THERE. UH, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE BOAT LANDING, BUT YOU HAVE ANOTHER CONSTITUENCY THAT'S VERY INTERESTED IN THEIR STORM WATER. SO, UH, YOU PUT 'EM BOTH TOGETHER. UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE SEPARATE, BUT IF IT'S ALREADY DECIDED, SO BE IT. BUT WE NEED A LARGE ENOUGH VENUE AND A TIME. WE CAN'T JUST HAVE ONE HOUR OF THE LIBRARY'S TIME UNTIL EVERYBODY THAT IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK WE'RE DONE BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, I WOULD EXPECT MR. CHAIRMAN. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. COULD WE MOVE IT OVER TO THE, UH, REC CENTER? I CAN ASK. YES MA'AM. I CAN ASK OUR, UM, ALL JOY POINT OF CONTACT MR. MATT KRAUSE'S COORDINATING THAT MEETING. BUT I CAN DEFINITELY INQUIRE ABOUT LOCATION AND EXPRESS THE CONCERNS. BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S GONNA BE IN THE LIBRARY. YES, MA'AM. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT'S WHERE IT WAS PROJECTED TO BE. THANKS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD FOR OLD BUSINESS? UH, WE HAVE SOME NEW [8. NEW BUSINESS] BUSINESS. UH, AND UH, UH, FIRST, UH, UH, I'M GONNA TAKE THEM OUTTA ORDER. I'D RATHER JUMP RIGHT INTO THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. UH, FOR THE 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET, I THINK IS THE MOST IMPORTANT. SO MS. BREWER, I'M SORRY TO MAKE YOU STAND UP. NO, THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S, I, I WOULD LOVE TO GET INTO IT AS WELL. . UM, SO THERE HAVE BEEN JUST A FEW CHANGES, UM, SINCE I DID SEND OUT THE BUDGET. UM, I FEEL LIKE IT'S AN EVER EVOLVING BEAR, BUT WE DID SIT DOWN WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT. UM, WE HAD QUITE A LARGE LIST OF CAPITAL PROJECTS, UM, COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE. UM, ALL THAT SEEMED TO BE PRIORITIZED. SO WE SAT DOWN WITH FINANCE AND WENT OVER OUR ACCOUNTS. UM, WE HAVE CHOSEN TO MOVE, UM, A COUPLE THINGS AROUND. WE MOVED, UM, THE MONEY THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BUDGETED FOR FY 27 FOR ROYAL PINE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO FISCAL YEAR 28. UM, WE ALSO MOVED, UM, THE $85,000 FOR THE GRAND OF FLORA DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AND THEN THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE RETAIL CIRCLE TANGLEWOOD EASEMENT INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET. THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF FINANCE. UM, THOUGH THOSE ARE LARGE PROJECTS FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED CAPITAL PROJECTS. UM, WE ALSO MOVED MONEY THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE [01:20:01] FOR A DRAINAGE STUDY INTO OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BUDGET WHERE IT'S NORMALLY HOUSED, THOUGH IT IS OVER, OVER THE THRESHOLD FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. UH, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS BETTER HANDLED IN OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BUDGET. WELL, YOU'RE NOT, THE SCREEN IS NOT MATCHING UP WITH WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING. OKAY, WELL, I'M SORRY. THAT WAS A, A SCREENSHOT FROM OUR 27 BUDGET, WHICH WE CAN GO OVER. BUT THE, I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE UPDATE ON OUR CIP THAT WE MOVED AROUND. UM, WE'LL BE SENDING OUT AFTER TODAY AN UPDATED CIP BUDGET AS WELL AS, UM, FULL FY 27 BUDGET TO THE BOARD FOR A REVIEW. BUT, UM, JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IF THOSE LARGER CHANGES, WHERE ARE YOU WITH DEVELOPING THE, THE FEES FOR THE NEXT YEAR FOR THE PART GONNA COME BY THE APRIL DATE? UM, AS AS STATED, WE'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO KIND OF TWEAK OUR FEE STUDY. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO THE TAX RUN THIS YEAR. WE'LL HOLD, WE'LL HOLD THE SAME ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT YOU'VE BEEN FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I GUESS THAT'S A GOOD THING. UNLESS IT'S REDUCED , I HAVEN'T SEEN A REDUCTION. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY HAS ON THE 27 BUDGET. THERE WERE A FEW. YES, SIR. AND I CAN PULL UP, I RECEIVED A COUPLE BY EMAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH THOSE. I CAN. YEAH. THEY, THEY, THEY WERE RELAYED TO ME AND I RELAYED THEM TO YOU. SO, UH, GO AHEAD, TAYLOR. YES, SIR. SO THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, IS THE RESERVE UTILIZ UTILIZATION AT THIS SCALE FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE BEYOND FISCAL YEAR 27? AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. UM, UPPER MANAGEMENT REALIZED THAT WE DID HAVE QUITE A LARGE BALANCE IN OUR FUND, AND THEY DID WANT TO USE THAT BALANCE AS COMPARED TO ROLLING IT OVER YEAR TO YEAR, UM, WHICH IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. SO WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO MOVE FORWARD ANY PROJECTS THAT WERE ON THE BOOKS SO THAT WE CAN, UM, ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THAT. SO IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABOUT $8 MILLION IN OUR, IN OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET. YES, SIR. OR EMERGENCIES. AND THAT'S OUR, OUR FISCAL, THAT'S OUR YEARLY, UM, EXPENDITURES FOR OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET. BUT WE HAVE, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, WE HAVE A LOT OF LARGER PROJECTS SLATED, UM, THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR IN PREVIOUS BUDGETS. SO WE ARE TRYING TO USED THAT BALANCE TO COMPLETE SOME PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOOKS. HAS HAS, HAS MANAGEMENT GIVEN YOU A TARGET OF, DO THEY WANNA SEE ZERO? WHAT DO THEY WANNA SEE? UM, FINANCE HAS ADVISED THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BETWEEN ONE TO TWO YEARS OF OPERATIONAL MONEY IN OUR FUND AND NO MORE. SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE BALANCE RIGHT NOW? THAT RESERVE FUND, WE ARE AT 21 MILLION RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE 22.7 MILLION OUT OF THAT. THE 21 MILLION WOULDN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE 8 MILLION THAT WE TOOK IN THIS YEAR. UM, AND IT ALSO, WE REQUESTED A 10 MILLION PULL FROM OUR RESERVES FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, AND WE'RE ONLY UTILIZING ABOUT TWO AND A HALF OF THAT. SO 8 MILLION OF THAT WILL GO BACK INTO OUR FUND AS WELL. SO THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE 21. AND HOPEFULLY THE, WITH THE FEE RESTRUCTURE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO OVER TIME, OBVIOUSLY BUILD THAT BUCKET AGAIN. WHAT, WHAT WAS THE IDEAL NUMBER? THEY SAID THEY WANT TO BE BETWEEN TWO YEARS OF OPERATIONAL BALANCE. OKAY. AROUND 16,000,016 AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SO WE TAKE THIS 22 7, WE TAKE ROUGHLY THE 12,000 THAT WE'RE GONNA REINJECT BACK INTO IT. SO WE'RE GONNA BE $4,000 OR $4 MILLION SHORT ON THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR TWO YEARS UNTIL WE GET THE FEE STRUCTURE. WE ARE GOING TO UTILIZE AROUND 4 MILLION OF OUR RESERVES PER YEAR FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. UM, AND WE DO REALIZE, LIKE I SAID, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE AT THE INCOME THAT WE HAVE, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT BALANCE BUILT UP. SO WE DID GO AHEAD AND PULL THE TRIGGER ON SOME LARGER PROJECTS, BUT WE DO NOT ASSUME THAT WE WILL HAVE $17 MILLION OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT EVERY YEAR. I NOTED, UH, UNDER YOUR TRAINING AND CONFERENCES, UH, A PWA AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS. YES, SIR. WHO WILL WE, YOU HAVE ANYONE [01:25:01] THERE THIS YEAR? IT'S IN HOUSTON. UH, YES SIR. OUR DIRECTOR IS GOING THIS YEAR. I AM UNABLE TO GO THIS YEAR, BUT, UM, WE ARE BUDGETING FOR, UM, AT LEAST ONE STORM WATER STAFF. I WOULD SUGGEST YOU SEND MORE BECAUSE THIS YEAR NEW TECHNOLOGY IS BEING RELEASED. YES, SIR. I'VE ALREADY SEEN SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY ANNOUNCEMENT. I'VE BEEN ASKED TO WORK THE SHOW WITH ONE OF THE EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURERS. I DON'T THINK I'LL MAKE IT, BUT, UH, NEW TECHNOLOGY, UH, BEST PRACTICES AND ALL THAT. UH, NEW EQUIPMENT IS ALSO GONNA BE SHOWN IN LAS VEGAS IN TWO WEEKS AT CONEXPO. UH, THAT IS, UH, BEING REALLY, IT'S THE MANUFACTURERS ARE DESIGNING FOR STORM WATER BECAUSE IN THE INDUSTRY THEY KNOW STORM WATER IS GROWING EACH AND EVERY YEAR. SO I WOULD SUGGEST, UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS, BUT SOMEHOW YOU NEED TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON. I MEAN, YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT UNDERSTANDS EQUIPMENT, UNDERSTANDS OPERATION, THAT CAN TAKE A LOOK AT SOMETHING, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. YES, SIR. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. I DID MAKE THE REQUEST. UM, I DO LIKE GOING TO CONFERENCES AND SEEING ALL OF THE NEW EQUIPMENT, BUT I'M NOT THE PERSON THAT RIDES ON THE EQUIPMENT DAILY, NOR HAVE I BEEN TRAINED PROPERLY IN THAT. UM, AND CONFERENCES HAVE KIND OF HISTORICALLY BEEN RESERVED STRICTLY FOR MANAGEMENT. BUT I DID REQUEST THAT MY SUPERINTENDENT COULD START ATTENDING LARGER CONFERENCES THAT DO EXHIBIT, UM, MACHINERY AS HE IS THE ONE THAT'S MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THAT AREA. AND THAT WAS FAVORABLY RECEIVED. SO I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S REFLECTED. THIS IS A POINT OF REFERENCE. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A, A TOWN IN MASSACHUSETTS, THE SIZE, SAME SIZE AS HILTON HEAD. THEY'RE SENDING THREE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND NOW THAT'S A HELL LOT SMALLER. THEIR BUDGET IS A HELL LOT SMALLER, BUT THEY'RE SENDING THREE PEOPLE. SO IF THEY CAN FIND A WAY TO SEND THREE PEOPLE FROM BRADLEY INTERNATIONAL, WHICH IS IN HARTFORD, A VERY EXPENSIVE AIRPORT TO FLY IN AND OUT OF TO HOUSTON, THEN I THINK THIS COUNTY CAN SEND MORE THAN ONE PERSON. UNDERSTOOD. AND SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS OPERATIONS. YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION. WHO, WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR? BRADLEY. HARRIET. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. HOW WAS THE EQUIPMENT SELECTED? THE TRUCKS YOU SHOW IN INTERNATIONAL, UH, WHICH IN THE INDUSTRY, CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IS CALLED A CORN BINDER. UH, AND THEN YOU SHOW SOME CAT EXCAVATORS, NOT THE LATEST IN TECHNOLOGY. WE HAVE A WORKFORCE ISSUE. YOU'RE NOT EVEN LOOKING AT THE INTELLIGENT MODELS THAT ARE IN THE INDUSTRY WHERE YOU CAN ELIMINATE AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT TWO LABORERS BECAUSE YOU CAN PROGRAM THE MACHINES TO DIG A CERTAIN DEPTH, A CERTAIN ANGLE, AND RETURN TO DIG. AND YOU, YOU, YOU HELP OUT ON THE MANPOWER. THOSE AREN'T EVEN BEING CONSIDERED. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU CAME UP WITH WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THIS EQUIPMENT, THEY DIDN'T DO AN O AND O UH, OPERATION IN OWNING ANALYSIS. 'CAUSE THEY'D FIND THAT THESE PARTICULAR CAT MODELS RANK AS THE HIGHEST OWNING COST AND THE HIGHEST TO, TO OPERATE. UH, AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN LISTED AS THE NUMBER ONE SELLER IN THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS. UM, I, AND I, I REACHED OUT TO, UH, A GENTLEMAN I KNOW I WORKED WITH HIS DAD FOR MANY YEARS. UH, THIS YOUNG MAN IS THE NUMBER TWO IN THE NEW YORK THROUGHWAY, UH, HIGHWAY GROUP. THEY HAVE A LOT OF THROUGHWAY IN NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK STATE RATHER. AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, RON, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER? AND HE, I KNOW HE TOOK THE PHONE AND BANGED IT ON THE DESK BECAUSE THAT'S THE SOUND I HEARD. AND HIS RESPONSE WAS A CORN BINDER. NO WAY. HE SAID, TELL YOUR FOLKS THAT IF YOU REALLY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT TRUCKS, YOU'LL LOOK AT WESTERN STAR AND MAC. THAT COST ONLY A FRACTION MORE, BUT THE LONGEVITY, THE STRENGTH AND THE COST OF OPERATION IS GONNA BE A LOT LESS LONG TERM. SO I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT LINE ITEM. I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM AND IT, IT JUST TELLS ME THAT THE, THE BRUSH HOG, UH, BUSH HOG, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ONE. BUT WHOEVER SELECTED THOSE MACHINES, UH, I HAVE TO KEEP A COMMENT TO MYSELF. BUT, UH, AFTER SPENDING MY WHOLE LIFETIME IN CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, NO, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. UNDERSTOOD. UM, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GIVE SUGGESTIONS IN LIEU? I DID WRITE DOWN THE TWO, UM, BRAND NAMES THAT YOU SAID, BUT SPECIFIC MACHINERY IN LIEU OF WHAT WE'RE I I WOULD, I WOULD RATHER. SO INSTEAD OF ME SHOWING MY PREFERENCE, I WOULD RATHER HAVE WHOEVER FROM YOUR ORGANIZATION, [01:30:01] PUBLIC WORKS, WHOEVER SIT DOWN AND DO AN HONEST OWNING AND OPERATING COST ANALYSIS AS WHACK WELL AS A SPEC ANALYSIS, THERE ARE MACHINES, WHETHER IT'S A JOHN DEERE, A VOLVO, OR A KOMATSU IN THAT SAME CLASS THAT HAVE BETTER SPEC, BETTER FUEL CONSUMPTION, BETTER OVERALL REACH DEPTH, JUST I CAN GO DOWN THE LIST, UH, BETTER PERFORMANCE. AND, AND IF SOMEONE SAT THERE AND DON'T TAKE THE INFORMATION FROM AN EQUIPMENT SALESMAN BY GOD, PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO THE CAT SALESMAN. HE'LL GIVE YOU A LINE WITH HOW GREAT THIS IS. BUT HAVE YOUR PEOPLE SIT DOWN AND DO A TRUE OWNING AND OPERATING. WHAT IS YOUR COST? WHAT'S GONNA BE THE FUEL CONSUMPTION AND GO THROUGH IT. AND I THINK THAT IS THE, AND AND I'VE TOLD THIS TOWN I WORK WITH, I SAID, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE YOU MY PREFERENCE. I'M GONNA TELL YOU HOW TO, ALRIGHT, I'LL JUST TELL YOU LIKE I DID. NOW THIS IS HOW TO GO AND DO IT YOURSELF. THAT WAY IF SOMETHING HAPPENS DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S NOT MY FAULT. YOU HAVE YOUR OWN OWNERSHIP. SO I, YES, I'M WILLING TO HELP, BUT I, MY PREFERENCES, NO. 'CAUSE I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO PUBLIC WORKS OR STORM WATER OR SOMEONE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND, AND NOT MYSELF OR ANYONE ON THE BOARD. YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT'S AN EXCELLENT RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. I'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT BACK AND GET WITH, UM, MY OPERATIONS STAFF AS WELL AS MY FLEET DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT ANALYSIS. QUICKLY, QUICKLY, QUICKLY. THE OTHER THING, THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT EQUIPMENT, I'M SURPRISED THAT THE TREND WITH A, A LOT OF, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND STORM WATER, WATER DEPARTMENTS IS TO ADD WHAT THE INDUSTRY IS CALLING NOW. THE THE SWISS ARMY KNIFE, IT'S THE GREAT ALL PRODUCT. IT'S, IT'S A, A EXCAVATOR THAT HAS A TELESCOPING BOOM THAT IS ACTUALLY LIKE A WRIST AND YOU'RE, YOU SET YOUR BUCKET AND IT ACTUALLY TWISTS AND ALL THAT. IT'S TRUCK MOUNTED 70 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THE HIGHWAY IF YOU WANT. OR, UH, YOU CAN GET A, UH, ALL, ALL-WHEEL DRIVE, UH, MODEL THAT YOU CAN TAKE OFF, UH, OFF HIGHWAY, WHICH HAVE TO BE TRAILER, UH, MOVED, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT STAFFING ISSUES, YOU'RE ELIMINATING A TRAILER. IT'S ONE OPERATOR BECOMES MORE AND MORE EFFICIENT. AND AS A POINT, UH, I JUST READ THE OTHER DAY THAT THE CITY AND COUNTY OF HOUSTON LAST YEAR BOUGHT 20 GREAT HALLS FOR THEIR STORM WATER AND PUBLIC WORKS, UH, DEPARTMENTS. NOW THEY HAVE A LOT OF DITCHES IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO HOUSTON THAT THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN. AND THAT'S SHOWING THE TREND. SO THERE, THERE'S A, A BIG TREND TO GO TOWARDS RUBBER TIRE, UH, EXCAVATORS AND, BUT THE RADAR HAS SOME FEATURES THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS ADDED. SO I, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU SHOULD, UM, BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU BET. AND, AND I THINK TO, TO, TO TAG ALONG WITH ED'S OBVIOUSLY KNOWLEDGEABLE POSITION ON THIS, AND WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS, NOW WE'VE GOT TO HAVE RELIABILITY WITH ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH. IT'S NONSTOP. AND IF WE HAVE, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAD A PIECE OF WHAT WAS THE SITE WE WERE USING OUT THERE IN SHELL POINT OR WHEREVER, ONE ARE ALL JOY. WE'RE WAITING HOW LONG NOW FOR THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO GO TO SAVANNAH PARK? AND THAT HAS A DOMINO EFFECT AND IT RIPPLES DOWN. AND I DON'T CARE IF CAT IS JUST DOWN THE ROAD OVER THE BORDER, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE THERE DOESN'T MAKE IT A GOOD CHOICE. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT VISION GOING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST STUFF THAT'S GONNA BE THE MOST RELIABLE OR ELSE THESE PROJECTS ARE JUST GONNA KEEP BACKING UP AND BACKING UP AND BACKING UP. AND, AND THE OTHER THING I THINK CONNIE SHOULD LOOK AT THE, THERE ARE MANUFACTURERS IN CATNET, ONE THAT ACTUALLY HAS, UH, SYSTEMS ON BOARD NOW THAT IF, IF YOU HAD A, A FILTER GET PLUGGED, IT'S TUNED INTO THE SATELLITES AND THE SATELLITE PING. SOME ARE ONE TIMES A DAY, SOME TWICE A DAY. SO IF YOU HAD A, A OPERATOR NOT PAYING ATTENTION AND IT PINGED, THEN THE DEALER WOULD BE CALLING YOU WITHIN 24 HOURS AND SAYING, YOU, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. OKAY. I SHOWED THIS TO A A, A COMPANY AND WHAT I DID IS I TOOK THE, UH, CABIN AIR FILTER OUT. THEY HAD A PHONE CALL TWO HOURS LATER, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR MACHINE, YOUR CABIN AIR FILTER IS PLUGGED. AND THE COMPANY SAID, NO, IT'S NOT MR. WARNER JUST UN UH, UNPLUGGED IT. SO THAT'S, [01:35:01] THAT'S THE SYSTEM THAT'S THERE. AND IT COSTS VERY LITTLE WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO HAVING A DOWNTIME OF WEEKS OR MONTHS, YOU'RE ON TOP OF IT. AND, AND I WOULD SUGGEST STRONGLY THAT, UH, THE COUNTY BE LOOKING AT MACHINES THAT ARE LABELED THE INTELLIGENT MACHINES. SO THEY'RE FEEDING TO THE SATELLITES. WHAT'S GOING ON? LET'S, LET'S TAKE THIS. SO IT'S 2026, NOT LIKE IT'S STILL 1995. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. CUT ME OFF. OKAY. I DIDN'T, UH, MS. BREWER, I HAVE ONE QUESTION OF MY OWN. UH, I DON'T SEE IT IN THE LINE ITEMS UNLESS IT'S ENCOMPASSED SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT IN PREVIOUS BUDGETS, THERE'S BEEN A LINE ITEM ON MAINTENANCE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PERFORM IN PERPETUITY AT PEPPER HALL. AND IT HAD TO DO WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADS AND IT HAD TO DO WITH MAINTENANCE OF THEIR STORM WATER RETENTION POND. AND THAT WE WERE, UH, UH, THE COUNTY WAS AT LEAST FI ON THE HOOK FOR 50% OF THAT COST. AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, ESTIMATED TO COST THE COUNTY $500,000 A YEAR. AND THAT WAS PLACED IN PREVIOUS BUDGETS. AND I DON'T SEE IT ANYMORE. AND IF WE'VE, THAT'S BEEN DEALT WITH LEGALLY THAT, THAT WE, WE ARE NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE. THAT'S A GREAT THING. UH, IF WE ARE RESPONSIBLE, YOU MAY WANNA LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE, UH, HOW MUCH AND, AND, AND, AND, AND HOW OFTEN. YES, SIR. I AM NOT AWARE OF A LINE ITEM LIKE THAT, BUT I WILL INVESTIGATE. IT IS, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S NOT IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. SO I WILL SEE WHERE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY AND WHY, BECAUSE EARLIER I BELIEVE IN, IN, IN LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE IT DROPPED OUT BECAUSE THEY SAID, WELL, WE'RE NOT READY YET. UH, THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING THERE, UH, NOW. AND SO, UH, I WOULD IMAGINE THE ROADS NEED, UH, UH, ASSISTANCE AND SO DOES THEIR STORM WATER. YES SIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I MADE A NOTE TO LOOK INTO THAT. AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ALSO IN THE BUDGET FROM A COUPLE MORE QUESTION. GO AHEAD. AND I WOULD JUST OFFER THIS 'CAUSE I FEEL FOR LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION, YOU'RE TANK PROPER INFORMATION TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. MM-HMM . ARE WE GOOD WITH, HOPEFULLY ED ED WILL AVAIL HIMSELF AND I KNOW DENNIS WOULD AND I WOULD RUN WOULD SO REACH OUT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO A FEW QUESTIONS. AND I, THERE ARE ABOUT THREE LINE ITEMS GOTTA ASK TAYLOR ABOUT EARLIER AND, AND ONE OF 'EM FOLLOWS YOUR QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT CLARIFICATION FOR THE ON CALL. SO I'LL THROW THOSE AT YOU. THESE WILL BE, UM, SOFTBALL QUESTIONS AFTER THE FIRST ONES THAT YOU HAVE . SO YOU'LL END, YOU CAN END, END IS STRONG. SO THE ONE WAS THE ON-CALL DESIGN ENGINEERING SERVICES, YOU KNOW, DISTINGUISHED BETWEEN, THAT'S LIKE RECURRING SERVICES OPPOSED TO PROJECT SPECIFIC. SO YOU EXPLAINED IT WELL TO ME, BUT FOR THE GROUP, COULD YOU WALK THROUGH THAT AGAIN? THE, THE DISTINCTION, WHATS, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT BUDGET? YES, SIR. UM, SO WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF REOCCURRING SERVICES THAT WILPERT PROVIDES FOR US, INCLUDING PLAN REVIEW. UM, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON THE SOLO CODE MANUAL EDITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, WE HAVE TASK ORDERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THEM, BOTH REOCCURRING AND LARGER PROJECTS. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL TWO ON-CALL FIRMS. SO WE DID BUMP THAT BUDGET UP BY 300,000, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ACCOUNT FOR BOTH EMERGENCIES AND REOCCURRING SERVICES FROM OUR ON-CALL. SO THAT DOES INCLUDE OUR PROGRAM MANAGEMENT, UM, FOR OUR MS FOUR PERMIT AS WELL. AND THEN A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. SO JUST USING THE LADIES ISLAND ISSUES THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, SO IF A PROJECT CAME UP LIKE THAT, WOULD THAT BE HANDLED THROUGH THIS ON-CALL OR WOULD THAT MAKE ITS WAY INTO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT? IT WOULD FIRST GO TO THE ON-CALL DEPENDING ON [01:40:01] HOW BIG IT BLOSSOMED INTO. UM, IT MAY NEED TO GO INTO A CAPITAL PROJECT, BUT WE ALWAYS DO TRY TO START WITH OUR ON-CALL SERVICES. THANK YOU. THE OTHER ONE, AGAIN, YOU, YOU DID A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING IT TO ME, BUT JUST FOR THE GROUP, THE LINE ITEMS FOR YOUR LEGAL FEE SERVICES. SO WE MOVED THE $200,000 OUT OF ANOTHER LINE ITEM INTO ITS OWN LEGAL FEES SECTION. UM, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE IN THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE TO RESURVEY OR DEFEND ANY EASEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN CLEARING OR IF THEY'RE IN QUESTION. UM, WE ALSO HAVE HAD TWO OTHER CASES COME UP THIS YEAR THAT ARE IN ACTIVE LITIGATION. SO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT SUGGESTED THAT WE DID, UH, BUDGET A LITTLE BIT IN CASE WE NEED TO CALL IN OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO ASSIST WITH THE LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE HAVE ONGOING OR NEW ONES THAT MIGHT POP UP. WE BELIEVE THAT THOUGH OUR COUNTY ATTORNEYS CAN'T HANDLE IT, SO WE HAVE TO GO TO OUTSIDE COUNSELS WITH SPECIFIC EXPERTISE. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? NOT THAT THEY CAN'T HANDLE IT. MAYBE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON A TIMELINE THAT'S NOT WITHIN THEIR BANDWIDTH. UM, NOT THAT IT'S AN EXPERTISE ISSUE END WITH I'M OLD . JUST HOW, UM, HOW STAFFING LEVELS, IF IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LEGAL STAFF ON STAFF, WE MAY NEED TO REACH OUT TRACKS TO CDS . GOTCHA. THANK YOU. I LOVE THAT. THAT'S GOOD. HOW ABOUT IBM AND THEN THE, THE FINAL ONE WAS THE, JUST THE EXPLANATION OF THAT LAND ACQUISITION, HOW YOU SEE THAT BEING USED, HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER. GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU MR. STEVE. SO THERE IS, UH, 1.5 MILLION THAT I SET ASIDE IN A LAND ACQUISITION LINE ITEM. THAT LAND HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE STORMWATER UTILITY FUND. IT IS JUST NEVER BEEN BUDGETED FOR OR USED. AND IN THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH POSSIBLY OFFERING A BUYOUT PROGRAM, UM, I WANTED TO BUDGET A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY JUST IN CASE WE DID GET THAT PROGRAM GOING THIS YEAR. SO WE DID LOOK AT THE AVERAGE, UH, PRICE FOR BEAUFORT HOUSE IS JUST OVER 400,000. UM, SO I GOT THE 1.5 FROM ESTIMATING AROUND THREE PROPERTY BUYOUTS AT FAIR MARKET VALUE. UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD JUST BE THERE IN CASE WE DO GET THE BUYOUT PROGRAM BUILT AND IT'S READY TO GO. I WANTED TO HAVE MONEY THERE IF WE WERE GONNA OFFER A PROGRAM TO THE CITIZENS. LET ME ASK A QUESTION TO THAT, THAT I DIDN'T THINK OF BEFORE AND I APOLOGIZE. IS IT ALL OR NONE? CAN WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT IF THE THREE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION, UH, BECAUSE THE COST OF TRYING TO REMEDIATE THE STORMWATER ISSUE IS MUCH GREATER THAN THE BUYOUT COST IN, IN, IN A NUTSHELL. BUT WHAT IF ONE SAYS, I DON'T WANT TO SELL? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OTHER TWO PROPERTIES? IS IT AN ALL OR NONE EFFECT? NO, SIR, NOT AT ALL. IT WOULD BE OFFERED ON AN INDIVIDUAL APPLICATION BASIS AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE, UM, STANDARDS WHERE GUESSING IN THE FORM OF IN INUNDATION RECORDS, UM, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A QUALIFICATION STANDARD FOR WHEN PEOPLE WOULD COME AND APPLY. SO, BUT NO, IT WOULD NOT BE ALL OR NOTHING. WE COULD DO MAYBE ONE BUYOUT A YEAR OR MAYBE TWO. RIGHT. LET'S SAY WE DID TWO AND ONE SAID NO, WE WOULD LET THAT PARTICULAR OWNER KNOW THAT, THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE EVERYTHING WE'RE GOING TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO STORM WATER FOR THAT AREA BECAUSE THIS IS OUR SOLUTION. YES, SIR. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO BE SIGNED CH CHAIR IF I MAY. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN FOR THE COUNTY IN, IN THE EVENT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER YES, WE HAVE A LAWYER PRESENT PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THAT. OKAY. UH, SORRY, WE, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT COMING UP. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THAT, THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU HAVE BUDGETED, SIR, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN FOR THAT? BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SAT HERE FOR ALMOST TWO HOURS NOW AND WE SEE HOW SLOW THE WHEELS OF PROGRESS MOVE IF WE DON'T COME [01:45:01] TO SOME TYPE OF RESOLUTION BY THE END OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WHAT'S YOUR PLAN FOR THAT $1.5 MILLION? WILL IT BE ROLLED INTO A GENERAL BUDGET AND EARMARKED FOR FUTURE BUYOUTS OR WOULD IT JUST BE SENT INTO THE GENERAL FUND OR WHAT'S THE PLAN? BEING THAT WE ARE AN ENTERPRISE FUND, IT WOULD GO BACK INTO OUR FUND BALANCE, UM, NOT EARMARKED UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON IF WE CHOSE TO EARMARK IT AGAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A HEALTHY GENERAL CONTINGENCY FOR THIS YEAR. SO I BELIEVE THAT'S MORE ON THE FINANCE SIDE, UM, FOR ANY KIND OF SALARIES OR, UM, OTHER FRINGE BENEFITS THAT MAY RAISE OUR BUDGET. YOU WANNA PROTECT NOT BEING ABLE TO DO A GRANT MATCH. YES, SIR. EXACTLY. AND WE DID GO THROUGH ANY OF OUR PERSPECTIVE GRANTS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE LINE ITEM THOSE OUT AS, UM, AMOUNTS FOR MATCHES, EVEN FUTURE POTENTIAL GRANTS. THANK YOU. IF IT'S APPROPRIATED AND YOU DON'T USE IT, IT CAN GO RIGHT BACK INTO YOUR FUND BALANCE AND THAT'S GOOD. IT'S THE GOOD NEWS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. BREWER. THANK YOU. AT THIS WE HAVE, UH, ONE MORE, UH, NEW BUSINESS, UH, FROM MY STANDPOINT THAT IS, UH, UH, THE ELECTION OF A CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIR FOR 2027, OR THE BALANCE OF 2026 INTO 2027. UH, SINCE THE YEAR CALENDAR, I, I MOVE THAT WE, WE NOMINATE, UH, MR. MARK AS, UH, THE CHAIRMAN, SECOND, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH . IF PATRICK WAS HERE, I'D HAVE HIM TAKE THE GAVEL HERE AND SAY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. A MOTION PASSES. UH, NOW WE NEED A, A MOTION FOR THE VICE CHAIR. DO I, I MOVE PATRICK. HE'S NOT HERE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA APPOINT APPOINT HIM THE VICE CHAIR. UH, JUST DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? PATRICK NOT BEING HERE? UH, UH, UH, DOESN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK. HE'S NOT TV. EXCUSE ME. ALL, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PATRICK MITCHELL BEING THE VICE CHAIR FOR THE NEXT YEAR. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALRIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS GENTLEMEN. . THANK YOU. UH, NOW [9. PUBLIC COMMENT] WE'RE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR. UH, CONGRATULATIONS. CHAIR . I THINK I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF, UH, CLARIFYING COMMENTS. UH, ONE TO, TO THE QUESTION, UH, WHAT HAPPENS IF, AND OH, BY THE WAY, I'M BASING ALL OF THIS ON 45 YEARS IN RISK MANAGEMENT, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, AND HUMAN RESOURCES IN BOTH THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THE LAST 14 YEARS BEING PUBLIC SECTOR AT THE STATE, COUNTY, AND CITY LEVEL. UM, IF AN OFFER IS MADE TO BUY OUT A PROPERTY OWNER SITUATION THAT THE, IN THIS CASE, THE COUNTY SAYS, DON'T THINK WE CAN, UH, MITIGATE THAT OR, OR DON'T THE COST TO MITIGATE EXCEEDS THE PAYBACK OR WHATEVER. IF AN OFFER IS MADE IN GOOD FAITH AND THAT OFFER IS TURNED DOWN, THEN THAT BECOMES A AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE. SHOULD THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO TURNED IT DOWN OR A SUBSEQUENT PROPERTY OWNER FILE A TORT LIABILITY LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY? SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. UH, BY THE WAY, UM, UH, MEMBER WARNER, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT NAVISTAR. WE CALLED THEM DUMP TRUCKS BECAUSE YOU DROVE THEM TO THEIR USEFUL LIFE, WHICH WASN'T LONG, AND THEN STRAIGHT TO THE DUMP. UH, MY ONLY DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WOULD BE GET A KENWORTH INSTEAD OF A MAC . BUT, UH, THAT BEING SAID, THE ONE THING I REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS YOUR IMPASSIONED PLEA THAT WE DIDN'T GET HERE OVERNIGHT. IT TOOK YEARS TO DEVELOP THIS. DON'T EXPECT IT TO GET BETTER ANYTIME SOON. I'M SORRY, I HEARD THAT REPEATEDLY OVER 45 YEARS. YOU KNOW, I AM, BY THE VERY DEFINITION OF WHAT I'VE DONE, A [01:50:01] TYPE A PERSONALITY WHO'S PRONE TO ACTION IN MY FOUR YEARS OF RETIREMENT. I'M A COMMAND AND GENERAL STAFF PERSON WITH A NATIONAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE, VOLUNTARY OPERATION. I DO COMMAND AND GENERAL STAFF WORK WITH THAT. IF YOU ACCEPT THE STATUS QUO, THEN THE STATUS QUO WILL BE WHAT REMAINS. AND THE PRIME DIRECTIVE OF ALL BUREAUCRACIES IS WHAT? PRESERVE AND GROW THE BUREAUCRACY. NOW, IN 1999, MARCUS BUCKINGHAM, A LEADING THOUGHT PERSON ON LEADERSHIP IN BUSINESS, WROTE A SEMINAL BOOK. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT, I RECOMMEND IT. IT'S CALLED FIRST BREAK ALL THE RULES. AND IF YOU THINK OF THAT BOOK THAT WAS WRITTEN IN 1999, I CAN BET YOU THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED FACEBOOK WHO INVENTED SOCIAL MEDIA, REDDIT, I CAN BET YOU THAT TESLA, REDDIT, I CAN BET YOU THAT UBER AND LYFT, REDDIT, I MEAN, THEY, THEY BOLDFACED WENT INTO METROPOLITAN AREAS AND SAID, YEAH, WE KNOW YOU GOT RULES. ANYWAY, IT IS TIME TO STOP PLAYING NICE. AND IT'S TIME TO RESPECTFULLY PUSH BACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. I I WILL ANSWER YOUR, UH, UH, A QUESTION THAT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD, AND SOME OF THEM ARE, UH, EX-MILITARY LEADERS AND THEY LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND THEY DO NOT ACCEPT THE STATUS QUO. AND MAYBE I MISSPOKE, BUT I BELIEVE IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THIS BOARD HAS DONE MORE TO GET THE PUBLIC AWARENESS THAT WE'RE HERE. RIGHT? MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS BOARD EVEN EXISTS. AND AS I EXPLAINED TO, UH, THE, THE NEW COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT WE ARE TECHNICALLY THE OMS OMBUDSMAN OF THESE STORMWATER FEES FOR THE PUBLIC. AND WE TAKE, DO, TAKE EVERY ONE OF THESE MEMBERS TAKES THEIR RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY. AND WE WANT AND DEMAND THAT WE FIX ANYWHERE WE CAN. THE STORMWATER ISSUES IN THIS COUNTY. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. AND I KNOW THAT, THAT, THAT SOMETIMES WE, WE ARE THOUGHT OF AS A THORN IN THE SIDE OF THE OPERATIONS PEOPLE BECAUSE WE DEMAND ACTION. ALRIGHT, SO, UH, IF I MISSPOKE SAYING THAT IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET HERE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UH, THE FIXES MAY NOT BE OVERNIGHT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO GET FIXED AND WE'RE NOT GONNA, IF IT TOOK 30 YEARS TO GET THERE, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE 30 YEARS TO FIX IT. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT. HOPE THAT ANSWERS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. UH, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS THAT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THIS BOARD? IF THERE BEING NONE, I DECLARE I HAVE ONE COMMENT. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENTS SO QUICKLY. AND THIS GOES TO, I WISH, UH, MR. RITZ WAS STILL HERE. THIS GOES TO THE COUNCIL. UH, IN MY, WHEN MARK ASKED ME TO COME BACK AND ESPECIALLY BE HERE AND, AND RESEARCH THE BUDGET, I REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL PEOPLE I'VE KNOWN IN THE INDUSTRY AND TO FIND OUT WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON WITH STORMWATER. YOU KNOW, STORMWATER, UH, AWARENESS HAS INCREASED OVER A THOUSAND PERCENT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SOME OF THAT'S DUE TO WE'RE PAVING MORE AREAS IN, IN, YOU KNOW, MORE DEVELOPMENTS. WHAT I DID FIND, WHAT IS OF INTEREST IS THERE ARE SOME LARGE STORM WATER AREAS THAT ARE NOW BEING SEPARATED FROM PUBLIC WORKS OR SEWER WATER. AND THEY ARE BECOMING, AND EVEN ENGINEERING AND THEY ARE BECOMING THEIR OWN ENTITY. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ENGINEERING. SOME PLACES LIKE THE CITY OF HOUSTON, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN HR. THEY, SO THEY'RE ABLE TO DESIGN AND MAINTAIN. THEY DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON COUNTY, CITY ENGINEERING PUBLIC WORKS OR ANYTHING ELSE. AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FORWARD AND, AND, AND TRYING TO MOVE STORM WATER, [01:55:01] THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT, UH, FROM A STANDALONE ENTITY. IT'S ANOTHER DEPARTMENT OR YOU CAN HAVE IT STILL UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, BUT IT'S, IT'S HIS OWN. AND, UH, I WOULD EVEN SAY TO HILTON HEAD, AS YOU'RE DEVELOPING YOUR OWN PUBLIC WORKS THAT STORMWATER HAVE HAS SINCE I LIVED THERE FOR 13 YEARS BEFORE MOVING OFF ISLAND, UH, HAS ITS OWN ENTITY AND, AND NOT BE DRIVEN BY SOME OTHER GROUP. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY FORWARD FOR STORMWATER. I THINK EVERYONE HAS TO UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT THAT WHERE WE WERE EVEN IN THE YEAR 2000, WE'RE, WE'RE FAR, FAR DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE DEVELOPMENTS, MORE HOUSING, MORE SHOPPING CENTERS, MORE YOU NAME IT. AND WHETHER IT'S ASPHALT OR CONCRETE, IT'S ALL PAVED AND IT ALL HAS TO RUN SOMEWHERE. AND SO WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO JUMP AHEAD A THOUSAND PERCENT TO CATCH UP WITH WHERE WE ARE. 100% THA THANK YOU MR. WARNER. UH, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. UH, I WOULD, UH, SAY THIS, UH, TO OUR LIAISON, COUNCILWOMAN BROWN, RIGHT? IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED THAT, UH, THE MANAGEMENT, THE OPERATIONS, MANAGEMENT OF THE COUNTY LOOK INTO, UH, REDIRECTING STORM WATER, NOT BEING AN ENTERPRISE AND HAVING OUR BUDGET GO DIRECTLY INTO THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS COUNTER TO WHAT MR. WARNER JUST, UH, UH, UH, UH, UH, UH, SPOKE ABOUT. WE, AND I BELIEVE I CAN SPEAK FOR MOST OF, UH, MY BOARD MEMBERS HERE, THAT, THAT, THAT WE ARE VEHEMENTLY AGAINST PUTTING OUR, UH, WHAT'S NOW AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND OUR STORMWATER FEE BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND WHERE, UH, PEOPLE NOT THAT DO NOT RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR STORMWATER, UH, UH, PROTECTION, UH, COULD DECIDE NEXT YEAR THAT STORMWATER GETS NO MONEY. WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. SO WE NEED YOU AS OUR LIAISON TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL SAYING THE STORMWATER UTILITY MANAGEMENT BOARD, UH, WANTS TO STAY AS AN ENTERPRISE. , THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE FOUNDATIONAL DOCUMENTS FOR THE FORMATION OF THE STORMWATER UTILITY ALLOWS THE FUNDS TO BE USED FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN STORMWATER. THEY CAN. THEY, OH, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA DO THAT. THEY, THEY MAY CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, SO WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. AND MARK, THE OTHER THING I FOUND IN MY SURVEY IS THAT THERE'S A NEW EMPHASIS, CLEAN WATER FOR DRINKING AND HOW TO HANDLE SEWER AND HOW TO HANDLE STORM WATER. THOSE ARE THE THREE EMPHASIS COMING OUT OF MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS. AND THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT. NOW I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, CLEAN WATER, THAT'S NOT A COUNTY FUNCTION HERE, BUT DEFINITELY, UH, STORM WATER IS, AND THAT SHOULD BE A BIG EMPHASIS. UNLESS MR. ROSS WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING, JUST ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY SAID. THERE NEEDS TO BE A PARADIGM SHIFT THE WAY WE DO THINGS. IT, IT CAN'T BE, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THIS WAY. AND I THINK IT, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO REALIZE THAT, THAT, AS I'VE SAID ALL ALONG, I'VE SAID IT HERE AND IN OTHER VENUES, WE'VE REALLY GOT TO HAVE THAT FORWARD VISION THINKING FAR ENOUGH AHEAD TO WHERE WE'RE NOT PLAYING CATCHUP ALL THE TIME. AND IT, AND I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT MRS. BREWER BEEFS UP HER BUDGET AND MAYBE HOPES THAT WE CAN GET SOME PROGRESS MADE TOWARDS MAKING STORMWATER BETTER. THANK YOU, MR. ANDREWS. ANYTHING SHANNON, WE NEED TO CLONE TYLER . WITH THAT SAID, MR. FEINBERG, BEFORE WE DO CLOSE, UM, I KNOW THAT I HEARD THE REQUESTS ON THE SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT PURCHASES. I DO HEAR THAT. UM, I WILL LOOK INTO THAT IN LIEU OF NOT VOTING. OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE PASSED. THE TIME THAT MY BUDGET IS DUE. CAN WE VOTE ON THE NUMBERS FOR THE BUDGET AND CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE PURCHASING PRIOR TO PURCHASE? WOULD THAT BE AMICABLE TO THE BOARD? I WOULD, THE AMOUNT IS, IS BUDGETED FOR THE EQUIPMENT. I'LL GO WITH THAT. IT'S THE SPECIFIC, IT'S THE TRUCK. IT'S, IT'S THE EXCAVATORS THAT I, I I BELIEVE TAYLOR JUST NEEDS AN OKAY ON THE FINAL NUMBER. YEAH, FINAL NUMBER. I'M AS OPPOSED TO THE LINE ITEMS. SO YES SIR. THANK YOU. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY ADJUST THE, CAN [02:00:01] I HAVE A, A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND THAT THIS BUDGET, UH, BE PASSED FOR 2027? WE RECOMMEND THE BUDGET FOR 2027. BE PASSED SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. SORRY. WITH THAT, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. YOU'RE WATCHING BEFOR COUNTY TV LIVE, WORK, PLAY. THE COUNTY IS ONE OF THE OLDEST FORMS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THE UNITED STATES. EARLY SETTLERS FROM ENGLAND BROUGHT THE TRADITION OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO AMERICA. TODAY, MORE THAN 3000 COUNTY GOVERNMENTS PROVIDE SERVICES THAT AFFECT ALMOST EVERY CITIZEN'S LIFE. SOUTH CAROLINA'S 46 COUNTIES ARE VERY REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS EVOLVED NATIONALLY. THE COUNTY UNIT IN SOUTH CAROLINA WAS REGARDED AS A LOCAL EXTENSION OF STATE GOVERNMENT, BUT A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM MOVEMENT IN THE EARLY 1970S LED TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, PASSING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LAW, ALSO KNOWN AS THE HOME RULE ACT. IN 1975, THE HOME RULE ACT GREATLY EXPANDED COUNTY AUTHORITY AND CHANGED THE NATURE OF COUNTY ORGANIZATION AND ADMINISTRATION TO WHAT WE KNOW TODAY. BEAUFORT COUNTY WENT FROM HAVING A BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO A COUNTY COUNCIL. MEMBERS OF THE 1975 COUNCIL INCLUDED CHAIRMAN ARTHUR HORN, VICE CHAIRMAN, GRADY THAMES, LEROY BROWN, GARY FORDHAM, WILLIAM GRANT, HARRIET KAISER LING, DAVID JONES, BILL MCBRIDE, AND BOOKER WASHINGTON. AS THE NEW COUNCIL SOUGHT TO DISTINGUISH ITSELF, COUNCIL MEMBERS DESIRED AN OFFICIAL SYMBOL THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE JURISDICTION'S IDENTITY AND UNIQUE CHARACTER COUNCIL APPOINTED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO UNDERTAKE THE TASK AND CARRY OUT A CONTEST FOR THE BEST COUNTY SEAL DESIGN. HARRIET KLIN WAS A MEMBER OF COUNTY COUNCIL, AND IT WAS HER IDEA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IDENTIFY OUR BEAUTIFUL BEAUFORD COUNTY. WE MET THEN UP AT, UH, I THINK IT WAS A CAROLINA BANK AND SOME YEARS AGO BACK THERE ON WEST STREET. AND THEN WE PUT 'EM IN PILES. YOU KNOW, LIKE, GOOD, BAD MAYBE UNTIL WE FINALLY GOT IT DOWN TO THE ONE THAT WE NOW USE. COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVED THE SEAL COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH REFLECTED THE COUNTY'S HISTORY, TRADITIONS, AND NATURAL BEAUTY. THE SEAL'S COLORS OF BLUE AND GREEN REPRESENT THE COLORS OF THE COUNTY'S OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT WITH ITS MANY WATERWAYS, MARSHLANDS, AND MARITIME FOREST. THE FIVE IMAGES WITHIN THE SEAL DEPICT SOME OF THE COUNTY'S DISTINGUISHING FEATURES. ANCIENT LIVE OAK TREES, THE SEAFOOD INDUSTRY, RICH NATURAL RESOURCES, AND RARE MARINE ECOLOGY, LOW COUNTRY ARCHITECTURE, AND MILES OF RIVERS, CREEKS, AND INLETS. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED. I THOUGHT IT ENCOMPASSED WHAT THE, WHAT WE AS A BODY WERE LOOKING FOR A SEAL THAT WOULD, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT IT AND JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, IT REALLY COVERS THE ASPECTS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY. SO HE DID A GOOD JOB OF BRINGING TOGETHER THE THINGS THAT WE, UH, WHOLE, SO DEAR AND WHAT WE REALLY LIKE ABOUT BEAUFORT COUNTY. COUNCILMAN BILL MCBRIDE WAS IN OFFICE WHEN THE CONTEST WAS HELD AND WAS PRESENT WHEN THE COMMITTEE REVEALED THE WINNING DESIGN. I THINK COUNCIL WAS ECSTATIC ABOUT IT. UH, WE THOUGHT THAT THE, THE STEMS ON THE SEAL REPRESENTED, UM, ASPECTS OF LIFE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE ORIGINAL ON DRAFT THAT WAS PRESENT TO US WHERE YOU HAVE THE SHRIMP BOAT TODAY. INITIALLY, THAT WAS A PLEASURE CRAFT, A SAILBOAT YACHT TYPE BOAT. [02:05:01] AND, UH, IT WAS CHANGED BY COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE FELT THAT THE SHRIMP BOAT WAS A BETTER REPRESENTATION, UM, OF A MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, ASPECTS OF BEAU COUNTY LIFE BECAUSE YOU HAD OTHER THINGS ON THE SEAL THAT REPRESENT THE PLEASURE AND RECREATION, THE FISHING AND THE BEACH. SO THEY THOUGHT THE SHRIMP BOAT, WHICH WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF BEFORD COUNTY CULTURE, SHRIMPING, ESPECIALLY AT THAT TIME, WOULD BE REFLECTED ON THE SEAL. THE WINNER OF THE CONTEST WAS AN ARTIST FROM HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THE LATE LEE PAYNE. HIS DESIGN WAS SELECTED FROM MORE THAN 126 CENTURIES SUBMITTED FROM AS FAR AWAY AS INDIANA AND TENNESSEE. HE WAS AWARDED $250 FOR HIS DESIGN. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE CAPTURED THE LEGACY OF OUTDOOR BEAUTY, CULTURE, AND HISTORY THAT HELPED TO DEFINE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF LIFE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. TO SEE MORE BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENTS GO TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARY HOMEPAGE AND CLICK ON THE LOCAL HISTORY TAB. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.