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          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TOWN WORKSHOP, UH, MEETING OF TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH TO ORDER. 
          UM, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION, AND THEN AFTER THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA, ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN NON AGENDA ITEMS. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO 
          [2. Adoption of the Agenda]
ACCEPT THE ADOPT THE AGENDA? SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND TODAY. 
          WE WILL COME AWAY FROM THIS HAVING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AS TO THE 
          [3.a. Review and Discussion of the Five-Year Capital Improvement Plan and FY27  Capital Improvement Project Priorities]
PROJECTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO PRIORITIZE OVER THE COMING YEARS. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A BIG PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF US, AND, UH, IT'LL BE A GOOD TIME FOR OUR DISCUSSION. 
          SO, MR. ORLANDO, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, . 
          I TALK SLOWLY AND LOOK FOR MY NOTES. 
          HERE THEY ARE, UH, A COUPLE THINGS. 
          ONE, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR. 
          THE, THE PLACEMENT OF THIS WORKSHOP, AS WE START TALKING ABOUT THE FY 27 CONSOLIDATED BUDGET, I'D SAY IT'S AN ADDED STEP. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A STEP MOVED, IT'S AN EXTRA STEP AS WE PREPARE THE BUDGET. 
          UM, WE'RE STILL PRETTY FAR OUT ON OUR BUDGET PREPARATION, RIGHT? WE REMEMBER THAT WE DELIVER FIRST READING IN EARLY MAY 2ND, READING IN EARLY JUNE, COUPLE WORKSHOPS, BOTH PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          SO WHEN I ADD IT ALL UP, I LOOKED THIS MORNING, IT'S APPROXIMATELY, WE'RE STILL 70 DAYS AWAY FROM BALANCING A BUDGET AND PUTTING IT IN THE PACKET FOR THAT MAY MEETING. 
          AND SO TODAY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US, US AND, AND SEAN AND I KNOW THIS TODAY'S AS MUCH ABOUT US HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND GETTING YOUR EARLY FEEDBACK, UM, YOUR EARLY FEEDBACK ON THE CIP BUDGET, UM, PROJECT LIST. 
          AND WHAT I, WHAT I LIKE AND WHAT WE LIKE AS A TEAM IS THAT THIS IS PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRIORITIZATION. 
          AND SO WE'RE HEARING FROM YOU, THEY'RE HEARING FROM US, HEARING FROM YOU AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS PRIORITIZING. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG ADDED STEP AND A GOOD OUT GOOD VALUE ADD THIS YEAR JUST FOR Y'ALL AND I AND THE PUBLIC AS WELL. 
          THIS IS NOT A, AN APPROVAL MEETING. 
          THIS IS A CONVERSATION. 
          UM, IT'S A HIGH LEVEL POLICY DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNED BEFORE WE PRIORITIZE THAT PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THE WAY SEAN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH HIS GREAT TEAM, AND, AND AS THEY JUMP IN, I'D, I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE YOU, YOU ALL KNOW DON, UM, HE'S AT THE TABLE WITH THIS, BUT I'LL ASK HIM IN A SECOND TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF. 
          BUT DELIVERABILITY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND WORKING AS WE'RE BALANCING OUR BUDGET, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PRIORITIZE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO PRIORITIZE. 
          CAN WE DELIVER IT? CAN WE DELIVER IT WITHIN A FISCAL YEAR OR TWO? AND BY THAT I MEAN FUNDING AS WELL AS OUR CAPACITY, CONTRACTOR CAPACITY, SO ON SO FORTH, COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY IMPACT. 
          ARE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WILL SEE IN A LITTLE BIT ON THE LIST IMPACTFUL? ARE THEY THE RIGHT PROJECTS AT THE RIGHT TIME? AND ARE THEY PRIORITIZED BY YOU? WE KNOW THINGS CHANGE EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY SO OFTEN ARE THEY THE RIGHT PRIORITIES? AND THEN JUST AS IMPORTANT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT WE ARE FAR ENOUGH ALONG THIS YEAR TO HAVE WHAT I WOULD CALL A, A, A VALUABLE CONVERSATION WITH YOU BECAUSE WE'RE FURTHER ALONG IN OUR BUDGET PREPARATION THIS YEAR THAN I WOULD SAY WE'VE EVER BEEN. 
          AND I'M NOT ALLOWED TO LOOK OVER AT MR. BYRD 'CAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE COMPLIMENTS, BUT I WILL LET YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WHAT I FEEL. 
          HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB HELPING US WITH A BUDGET. 
          AND I'M MUCH MORE PREPARED EARLY IN THE CYCLE OF BUDGET PREPARATION TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU. 
          SO THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, AND SO FROM A FINANCIAL STRATEGY, ARE WE USING THE RIGHT TOOLS? WE KNOW, AND WE'VE IN THE PAST HAVE USED SOME DEBT WHILE BEFORE MY TIME. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE BEEN IN A PAY AS YOU GO. 
          WE'VE ALSO STARTED TO TALK ABOUT TIFF. 
          WE'VE USED GRANTS, WE'VE USED EARMARKS, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY CONFIDENTLY, BUT ALSO TO GET YOUR INPUT ON SOME FUTURE WORK, INCLUDING A TIF DISTRICT ASSESSMENT. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT IT'LL ALL MAKE SENSE WHEN WE GET TO THE, TO THE BOTTOM OF, OF THE DECK THAT'S UP HERE. 
          UM, A COUPLE NOTES. 
          I ALWAYS REMIND MYSELF, WE MUST BALANCE AMBITION WITH DISCIPLINE. 
          I'LL ADMIT MY TEAM, AND I ALWAYS SAY IT'S LIKE THEY WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE HUNGRY AND CAME HOME WITH A WHOLE BUNCH, AND I'M RIGHT THERE WITH THEM. 
          BUT SOMETIMES WE'RE TOO AMBITIOUS WHEN WE REALLY MEASURE HOW MANY STAFF MEMBERS, WHAT THE REAL LIFE CYCLE OF A PROJECT IS CONSIDERING STATE PERMITTING, CONTRACTOR AVAILABILITY. 
          UM, BUT, BUT WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE ALWAYS KNOW THAT INFRASTRUCTURE DEMANDS GROW, WE'LL, EXPECT SAFE ROADS, GREAT QUALITY PLACES, 
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UM, IMPROVED SERVICES AND, AND DEFINITELY WELL MAINTAINED, UH, FACILITY. 
          SO AS WE GET INTO THAT TODAY, UH, DEFINITELY SEAN, AND I'LL BE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH, WITH YOU, WITH DON AND, AND WITH, WITH DAVE BYRD, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. 
          SO DON, SINCE YOU'RE NEW AT THE TABLE AT THE WORKSHOP, YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF A LITTLE BIT AND LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR ROLE IS AND SURE. 
          HOW YOU FOUND US. 
          SURE. 
          GET YOUR MIC TOO. 
          UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, MY NAME'S DON D ADAM. 
          I AM A PROUD RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          UH, I'VE BEEN IN THE, UH, CIVIL ENGINEERING PRIVATE SIDE BUSINESS CONSULTANCY BUSINESS FOR, UH, OVER 30 YEARS. 
          UM, TO TELL A QUICK STORY ABOUT A YEAR PLUS AGO, UM, I WAS ABLE TO RUN INTO A GUY NAMED SEAN COLLIN AT THAT TIME AND GET TO KNOW MARK AND SOME OTHER FOLKS WITH, UM, THE TOWN. 
          UH, I CONTINUED TO WORK FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND THEN, UH, REVISITED THAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, HERE, UH, LATE LAST YEAR AND STARTED IN NOVEMBER. 
          SO WHAT IS THAT? ABOUT THREE MONTHS NOW ON BOARD? UM, MY HONEYMOON IS OVER. 
          UH, I'M DEEP INTO THE DETAILS NOW. 
          AND VERY, UH, HAPPY TO BE WORKING WITH, UM, A REALLY, UH, GREAT TEAM AND CATCHING UP ON ALL THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE ESTABLISHED COMING INTO IT. 
          SO, UM, TRYING TO DO OUR LEVEL BEST AS A TEAM TO, UH, TO ALIGN TODAY'S DISCUSSION TO WHAT YOU ALSO APPROVED A YEAR AGO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND DON OVERSEES OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND, AND, AND REPORTS AND WORKS DIRECTLY WITH SEAN GILMAN. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, JUST TO REALLY TO REITERATE TODAY'S GOAL, ESTABLISH A BASELINE FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, REALLY MOSTLY FOR THE, PARTICULARLY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 27. 
          AND SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT YEAR END FISCAL YEAR 26 PROJECTIONS. 
          THAT ALWAYS HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT PROJECTS AND WHAT FUNDS WILL ROLL FORWARD FOR FISCAL YEAR AND THROUGH INTO FISCAL YEAR 27. 
          SAY THAT NUMBER 27. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A PRELIMINARY FY 27 PROJECT LIST. 
          YOU'VE SEEN IT, YOU'VE SEEN IT LAST YEAR IN THE FIVE YEAR CIP. 
          IT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          THERE'S BEEN SOME EXTRA ADS FROM, FROM Y'ALL. 
          YOU'VE ASKED ME TO PUT SOME, SOME PROJECTS ON THAT LIST. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL FUNDING TOOLS TO CONSIDER, AS I SAY, FOR TODAY AND TOMORROW. 
          AND, AND TIP'S A BIG PART OF THAT. 
          UH, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY AS WE LOOK AT THOSE CIP PROJECTS WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT LIST AS WE KNOW WE NEED TO AT LEAST ADDRESS FOR THE BUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION SALE. 
          DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERENDUM. 
          I'LL TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AS WE, AS WE GET INTO THIS. 
          UM, AND SO YEAH, LOOK AT 26. 
          WE'LL LOOK AT ROLL FORWARD FOR 26. 
          THAT STARTS HELPING US BUILD ROLL FORWARD PLUS NEW FOR 27. 
          AND THEN TALK ABOUT CAN WE AFFORD IT? AND IF WE CAN, HOW ARE WE GONNA, HOW ARE WE GONNA FUND IT? I WON'T READ ALL OF THIS, BUT I ALWAYS THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE TALK ABOUT CAPITAL PROJECTS, THAT WE REMIND OURSELF WHAT A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS, AND IT'S ONE OF SIX FUNDS IN THE BUDGET AS WE ADOPT A CONSOLIDATED BUDGET. 
          WE LOOK AT IT BY BUDGET, UM, BY FUND, I SHOULD SAY, AS A CONSOLIDATED BUDGET. 
          AND I WILL DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MIDDLE PARAGRAPH WHERE IT SAYS THAT THIS CAPITAL EXPENDITURE IS DISBURSEMENT OF A APPROPRIATED FUNDS TO PAY FOR LAND BUILDINGS, MACHINERY, AND EQUIPMENT WITH AN ORIGINAL COST OF $5,000 OR MORE, AND SOFTWARE LICENSES AND OTHER TANGIBLES OF A CONSUMABLE NATURE, EXCUSE ME, VALUE AT 50,000 OR MORE, AND ON AND ON, BUT HAS A USEFUL LIFE AT LEAST TWO YEARS FOLLOWING THE DATE OF ACQUISITION AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH A VALUE OF A HUNDRED K OR MORE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THESE PROGRAM, THESE PROJECTS ARE IN THIS PROGRAM AND NOT IN AN OPERATING IN A MAINTENANCE BUDGET. 
          UM, THEY INCLUDE MAJOR LIFTS FOR MAINTENANCE AS MUCH AS IT WOULD BE A NEW PROJECT. 
          SO, UM, I, I WON'T GET INTO ALL THIS WITH YOU, BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE SAY A CIP AS A GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR MAJOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES ASSET MANAGEMENT, WHICH A LOT OF IT IS OUR LAND AND OUR BUILDINGS AND FUNDING STRATEGIES OVER A MULTI-YEAR, RIGHT? AND IT'S ALSO THAT WE WORK ANNUALLY TO UPDATE AND RESPOND TO SHIFTING PRIORITIES, WHICH, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME, SOME SHIFTING EMERGING PRIORITIES AND FUNDING CHANGES FOR THOSE NEW NEEDS. 
          THIS IS MORE FOR, I JUST THINK, KNOWLEDGE IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION. 
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BUT WE LOOK AT BUDGETING, ACCOUNTING, STRATEGIC PLANNING, AND TRANSPARENCY IN THE, IN THE CAPITAL PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE A GOOD FIVE YEAR LOOK FROM LAST YEAR, UH, THE FISCAL YEAR 26 APPROVED IS 77.6 MILLION, AS, AS WE REMEMBER, MOST OF THAT WAS IN THE BEACH PROGRAM AT 48.8. 
          THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT WAS, I BELIEVE, 47.5 MILLION OF THAT 48. 
          SO A MAJOR LIFT, BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE 10, 10 IN PARKS, FIVE IN ROADS, 1.6 IN PATHWAYS. 
          AND, AND THIS YEAR, MORE THAN EVER, A, A, A MORE ROBUST STORM WATER PROGRAM AT $6.3 MILLION. 
          WE JUST LOOKED AT THIS AND I EXPLAINED THE DIFFERENT COLORS OF STARS AT OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP. 
          SO I'M NOT GOING, SO TO AVOID YOU ALL THROWING SOMETHING AT ME, UM, I'M NOW GOING THROUGH THIS TODAY. 
          WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO DO. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMIND OURSELVES AND THE PUBLIC, AND EVEN FOR THE NEW FOLKS THAT ARE WITH US TODAY, THAT LAST YEAR WAS THE VERY FIRST YEAR THAT WE'VE COME FORWARD WITH A REAL FIVE YEAR PRIORITY. 
          AND WE'VE REALIZED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ESTIMATES. 
          SEAN GILL SAYS, AT BEST WE CAN GIVE YOU ESTIMATES, THEY'RE GONNA BE WRONG. 
          'CAUSE THEY CHANGED SO MUCH MARKET CHANGES. 
          AND WE CAN SCOPE A PROJECT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW FULLY ALL THE ENGINEERING, ALL THE CIVIL, ALL THE IMPACTS, WHETHER IT'S 12 FEET OR 10 FEET WIDE AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          SO, BUT WHAT'S REALLY HELPFUL AS WE START MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION IS THAT WE'VE STARTED TO PRIORITIZE AND THEN WE REALIZE SHOULD WE, CAN WE, WE BUILD IT? AND IF WE CAN, GREAT. 
          AND IF WE CAN'T, WE WILL PUSH IT OUT. 
          THAT IS JUST THE NATURAL TRANSITION AND, AND, AND TRANSACTION OF A CIP PROGRAM. 
          AND SO I THINK THIS IS JUST A GOOD REMINDER FOR US THAT OUR PROGRAM IS IN SEVERAL BUCKETS. 
          BEACH PATHWAY, ROADWAY. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF ROAD PROJECTS, A LOT OF PRIORITIZED ROAD PROJECTS, BUT NOT VERY MANY FUNDED ROAD PROJECTS, PARKS, FACILITY AND EQUIPMENT. 
          STORMWATER, VERY PROUD OF OUR STORMWATER PROGRAM AND OUR STORMWATER TEAM AND THE WORK THEY'RE DOING THIS YEAR, FLEET AND THE LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAM. 
          AND A REMINDER, WE HAVEN'T IN THE PAST FUNDED LAND ACQUISITION AHEAD OF TIME, WE'VE SIMPLY LEFT SOFT COSTS IN THERE AND DETERMINED THE FUNDING AS OPPORTUNITY OR NEED PRESENTED ITSELF. 
          WE'RE PROUD THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND AND THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT, UH, PHASES, PLANNING, UM, THE DESIGN, WHICH IS REALLY CIVIL IN CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION, UH, WE CAN HOW MANY GREENS PUT YOUR LIGHT ON? 15 IN UNDER CONSTRUCTION, 19 IN DESIGN AND EIGHT IN PLANNING 15. 
          SO WE REHEARSED 15 PROJECTS, 15 PROJECTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, AT THIS TIME. 
          SO AS WE STARTED TO LOOK AT, UM, AS WE STARTED TO LOOK AT, UH, PROJECTS IN FISCAL YEAR 26, WE, WE'VE PROJECTED JUST BASED UPON CONTRACT AND BASED UPON, UH, SCHEDULE, WE'VE PROJECTED TO ROLL FORWARD OF THE 77, UM, 0.8 MILLION TO ROLL FORWARD 12.7. 
          AND THAT'S BASED UPON THE SCHEDULE WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT. 
          JUST TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND ANYTHING OVER TWO 50 K, OKAY, WE'VE, WE'VE PUT IN THIS COLUMN RIGHT HERE. 
          SO WHAT WILL ROLL FORWARD IS HARBORTOWN DREDGE, JONESVILLE ROAD PATHWAY SIGNAL MAINTENANCE. 
          WE'RE MAINTAINING THOSE SIGNALS, BUT WE WILL STILL HAVE SOME DOLLARS LEFT OVER THAT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. 
          DOES THAT SAY SIX? WHATEVER THAT SAYS. 
          SIX OR EIGHT, YEAH. 
          SIX NORTH POINT, UM, 2.8. 
          AND THAT IS UP HERE. 
          AND THAT'S COMING FORWARD AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT, BUT WE KNOW IT'S IN HERE. 
          UM, SEGMENT EIGHT, SEA PINES TO WEXFORD AS A, AS A PATHWAY. 
          THAT'S THE S-E-D-O-T CIRCLE, DEEP PINE CIRCLE, EXCUSE ME. 
          PRIMARILY DEEP PINE CIRCLE, THE CIRCLE PRIMARILY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YES SIR. 
          YEAH. 
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PATTERSON PARK, TAYLOR FAMILY PARK FIRE RESCUE HEADQUARTERS, UM, IN SOME STORM WATER WORK FOR, FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE NOTABLE, FOR THOSE NOTABLE ROLLOVERS. 
          WHILE I'M NOT PROPOSING, OH, HI. 
          HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, . 
          HELLO, . 
          I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE ROLLOVER AND THE HARBORTOWN DREDGE, AND THE REASON IS IT'S BEEN ROLLING OVER FOR A LONG TIME AND, UM, I REALIZE THAT THERE'S A LAWSUIT ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE LAWSUIT IS GOING TO SETTLE. 
          UM, LET'S SAY THE LAWSUIT DOES SETTLE, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT AWAY? UM, SO I'M, I BRING THIS UP AS A QUESTION TO SAY, IS THAT A POTENTIAL ITEM THAT WE COULD NOT ROLL, ROLL OVER, UM, FOR THIS BUDGET? I, I BELIEVE SO. 
          I'D HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CONTRACT OR ANY, ANY AGREEMENT WE SIGN. 
          BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT AS A TOWN COUNCIL, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT AND AND RESPONSIBILITY TO, TO MAKE THAT DECISION AS YOU GO WITH A THOUGHT THAT WHEN IT DOES SETTLE AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO DO THIS, THAT WE WOULD THEN PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT YEAR OR AT AS AN ADDENDUM. 
          BUT I JUST DUNNO WHY WE'RE CONTINUING TO ROLL OVER $600,000 YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          DO WE, DO WE NEED TO, UM, HAVE CURTIS CHIME IN ON THAT AT ALL? CURTIS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. 
          UM, THERE IS AN AGREEMENT REGARDING THE PAYMENT OF THE $600,000. 
          THE, THE, THE TOWN ACTUALLY DOESN'T DO THIS WORK. 
          TOWN'S CONTRIBUTING THE FUNDING TO THE SOUTH ISLAND RANCH ASSOCIATION, THAT, THAT ACTUALLY IS PLANNING, SUPERVISING, DOING THE WORK. 
          THE CASE WAS, UM, TRIED IN CIRCUIT COURT, UH, TOWN'S POSITION PREVAILED. 
          IT WAS APPEALED. 
          THE APPEAL WAS ARGUED IN EARLY OCTOBER. 
          STILL DON'T HAVE A DECISION OUTTA THE COURT OF APPEALS. 
          I, YOU KNOW, COULD BE TOMORROW. 
          I MEAN, IT'S WEDNESDAY, THAT'S WHEN THEY RELEASE THEIR OPINIONS, BUT WE'LL SEE. 
          UM, SO THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE FUNDING THROUGH THE AGREEMENT, I, I, I THINK IS PLEDGED. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S REMAINED THERE JUST PENDING THE, THE RESOLUTION OF THE LITIGATION THAT'S TIED IT UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CAN YOU HELP ME REMEMBER, IS THE ENTIRE COST FOR THAT PROJECT, UM, ON THE TOWN FOR 600,000 OR ARE THERE ADDITIONAL ENTITIES WHO ARE NO, THAT'S A, THAT'S A SMALL PART OF THE ENTIRE SMALL PART. 
          COST OF, IT'S A SMALL, AND SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ENTITIES WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS AS WELL. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I, I BELIEVE MR. COLTRANE, IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST ONE AT LEAST ONCE, IF NOT A NUMBER OF TIMES, ONCE TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE. 
          DIFFERENT TOPIC, , DIFFERENT TOPIC. 
          THE NORTH POINT USPS ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS. 
          I, I RECALL THAT. 
          UH, CAN YOU REMIND ME OF THE SOURCE OF FUNDS SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT SOURCES OF FUNDS AS WE LOOK AT, UH, 27? YEAH, THAT IS, UM, FROM THE, DAVID, IF YOU'LL TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE NORTH POINT IS COMING THROUGH FROM THE, UH, HOSPITALITY FUND. 
          I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT FOR YOU, BUT I BELIEVE SO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WHILE WE'RE HERE? ALRIGHT, MARK, DID THE CITIZENS GET THE COMMENT? NOT AT THIS TIME, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO A COUPLE FUNDING SOURCES AND I'LL JUST KIND OF GO FORWARD AND THEN, AND THEN ROLL BACK. 
          AND I'M GONNA LEAN ON DAVE BIRD RIGHT NOW TO WALK THROUGH THESE NEXT FEW FUNDING SOURCE SLIDES THAT, THAT SIMPLY REMIND US OF A FEW THINGS, RIGHT? WHEN WE STARTED SAYING THIS, WE, WE'VE STARTED OFF BY SAYING WE HAVE AN R IN A PAY AS YOU GO. 
          AND THAT MEANS NEW SORT, NEW NEW REVENUE FOR THE YEAR AS WELL AS FUND BALANCE. 
          AND SO WHAT I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO DO IS WE START TALKING NOT JUST ABOUT PROJECT, BUT IS ABOUT AVAILABLE FUNDS IN, IN YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND YOUR, AND YOUR DIRECTION, YOUR COLLECTIVE DIRECTION ON, ON THESE FUNDS. 
          SO DAVE, I TURN IT OVER TO YOU AT THIS POINT, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MARK. 
          OKAY, SO THE FIRST SLIDE HERE IS JUST, UH, 
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A REVIEW OF WHAT WE REVIEWED IN DECEMBER FOR THE, UH, 2026 GO BOND. 
          AND AS, AS WE DISCUSSED, IT'S, IT'S UP TO 35 MILLION. 
          UM, AND THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS IS THE FIRE RESCUE HEADQUARTERS THAT'S BEEN COMMITTED TO, UH, $9 MILLION, UH, 1.75 MILLION FOR NINE PARK LANE, 5.95 MILLION FOR 10 PARK LANE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE 1.3 MILLION FOR MOVE SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND BUILDING MODIFICATIONS. 
          AND SO AS WE DISCUSSED, SOME OF THAT IS GONNA BE HAPPENING IN 26. 
          UM, ROUGHLY HALF OF THAT, THE OTHER HALF WILL BE A PART OF THE 27 BUDGET. 
          UM, THAT LEAVES 26 MILLION. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROVISIONS OF THE BOND ITSELF, THERE'S ANOTHER 10.25 MILLION THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING WITHIN FISCAL YEAR 2027 FOR THE TOWN. 
          WE COULD SPEND ALL 26 IF WE WANTED TO, BUT WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER 10.75 MILLION OR 10.25 MILLION. 
          AND THEN THE RESIDUAL 15.75 WOULD BE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2028. 
          IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT HOW THAT REMAINING 26 MILLION WOULD BE SPLIT OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS FROM THE BOND PROVISIONS PERSPECTIVE BETTER. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO THIS GEO BOND, UH, IS FOR, UH, PURCHASING OF LAND AS WELL AS CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AS A TOWN COUNCIL WAS TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD MONEY FOR GROUP PURCHASING OF GREEN SPACE. 
          WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED BY BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          THEY CAME UP IN FRONT OF THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE, UH, THE LAST MEETING WHERE THEY ARE LOOKING AT THOSE TWO SUBMISSIONS. 
          UM, AND WE ASKED FOR 50% FUNDING IF, AND THEY ARE ENTERTAINING MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN APPROVAL, BUT THEY'RE ENTERTAINING MOVING IT THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          IF WE ADDED THOSE TWO COMPONENTS TOGETHER, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSE TO THE $10 MILLION. 
          SO I SAY THAT JUST TO SAY I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE THAT $10 MILLION SPENT THROUGH THOSE TWO, UH, PIECES OF, UH, LAND THAT WE, UH, HAVE IN PROCESS. 
          LET, LEMME JUST ADD ON TO THAT. 
          I THINK THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY WITH OUR REAL ESTATE TRANSFER FEE FUND BALANCE, UM, TO SORT OF COBLE FUNDS IF WE WERE LOOKING TO MAKE THAT MATCH. 
          UM, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF LEVERS THAT WE CAN PULL WHEN IT COMES TO US PURCHASING LAND AND ABSOLUTELY WE MADE A COMMITMENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE A PORTION OF THE BORROW TO DO SO. 
          UM, SO I, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING IS I'M, I'M SORT OF TEEING UP THE FIR THE, THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE LATER DOWN THE ROAD  AS FAR AS HOW WE FIND A WAY TO PAY FOR THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN DEALT TO US AS PRIORITIES. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I ALSO WANNA REMIND US ALL THAT OUR NUMBER ONE STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO MANAGE GROWTH AND THERE'S NO BETTER WAY THAN MANAGING GROWTH VIA BUYING LAND AND DENSITY. 
          AND WHEN THE DISCUSSION WAS BEING HAD WITH REGARD TO THE UP TO $35 MILLION, THAT, THAT WAS THE, UM, PRIMARY ARGUMENT AND IT WAS EXPLICITLY WRITTEN INTO THE, UM, DOCUMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE USING IT TO FOR LAND ACQUISITION. 
          AND SO, UM, WHILE I HEAR OPPORTUNITIES FOR COBBLING, UM, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THESE DOLLARS WERE TO BUY LAND TO MANAGE GROWTH SO THAT WE COULD SATISFY OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          AND I INTEND ON STAYING IN THAT POSITION, I HAVE TO WEIGH IN AS WELL. 
          THE DOCUMENTS ACTUALLY SAY, UM, UH, IN INCLUDE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. 
          SO IT COULD BE USED BOTH WAYS. 
          UH, I, I RESPECT MY COLLEAGUES' POSITIONS ON THIS. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE TO DECIDE EXACTLY WHAT TO DO WITH THE 26 MILLION AT THIS POINT. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PROPOSALS IN FRONT OF US AND TO WEIGH IT ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE WE DO HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING, UH, AS MR. BROWN MENTIONED, THE TRANSFER FEES, WHICH WE'VE USED QUITE EXTENSIVELY AND THANK GOODNESS WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF THAT AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE PROPERTY. 
          SO WE DO HAVE THAT OTHER BIG BUCKET FOR THAT PURPOSE AS WELL. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK AT THIS POINT WE OUGHT TO WAIT AND TAKE A LOOK AT OUR LIST BEFORE WE MAKE ANY FIRM DECISIONS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          YEAH, WELL KEEP IN MIND WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY FIRM DECISIONS TODAY ON THAT, BUT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THOSE DIFFERENT RESOURCING TOOLS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE TOOLBOX 
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AND HOW EACH ONE CAN BE UTILIZED DIFFERENTLY WITHOUT DISTURBING THE PURPOSE OF SOME OF THE FUNDS AS AS TO THE, AS TO HOW THEY WERE REQUIRED. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT, UM, HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS AND I THINK THAT WE CAN GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH ON THAT AS WE GO INTO IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, UM, WITH DAVE'S HELP. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY, SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF HIGH LEVEL FUNDING SOURCES. 
          AND I USE THE WORD RESTRICTIONS, BUT THEY'RE REALLY, I'LL CALL 'EM POLICY RESERVES, RIGHT? I, I LIKE THE WORD RESTRICTIONS, BUT, UM, SORRY, BUT SO YOU, YOU'VE, IF YOU WOULD SEE A HIGHER NUMBER IN THE PAST, MAYBE IN OUR FINANCE REPORTING PACKET OF AROUND $250 MILLION, UM, UH, SO IN 2025 WE ENDED UP AROUND 161 MILLION OF A FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF JUNE OF 25, UM, AFTER RESTRICTIONS. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE'RE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW BASED UPON THAT WE'RE EARLY IN OUR BUDGETING PHASE PRO PROCESS, BUT WE'RE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW ABOUT 155 MILLION OF A ENDING FUND BALANCE FOR THE TOWN. 
          THERE'S ABOUT 96 MILLION, I WOULD SAY OF OF, OF FUND BALANCE RESERVES THAT ARE ON TOP OF THAT NUMBER. 
          SO WE'RE AROUND 2 51, GIVE OR TAKE AS A TOTAL FUND BALANCE POSITION FOR THE TOWN. 
          BUT REALLY I'M KIND OF LOOKING ABOVE THAT RESTRICTION LINE, IF YOU WILL, FOR AVAILABLE FUNDS. 
          UM, AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT 2027 AS AN INITIAL ROLL UP, WE ARE IN LEVEL ONE BUDGET REVIEWS RIGHT NOW, VERY EARLY IN THAT STAGE. 
          UH, BUT AS THE INITIAL ROLLUP PRIOR TO ANY CAPITAL EXPENDITURE, WE ARE PROJECTING, UH, AT THE END OF 27 TO BE ROUGHLY $184 MILLION OF FUND BALANCE. 
          THAT'S KIND OF HOW I LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND WE KIND OF PUT INTO THE BUCKETS OF WHERE DOES THAT MONEY SIT PRIOR TO ANY CIP BEING SPENT, BE IT, BE IT STORM WATER OR BEACH PRESERVATION. 
          A LOT IN BEACH PRESERVATION, 29 MILLION. 
          THAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 20 MILLION THAT WE HAVE AS A RESERVE FOR BEACH. 
          UH, OUR REAL ESTATE TRANSFER THAT WAS MENTIONED, WE'RE AROUND 24 MILLION THERE. 
          OUR GO BOND 26 MILLION. 
          UM, I'LL GO TO OTHER AND NEXT, WHICH IS REALLY GULLAH GEECHEE HOUSING DEBT SERVICE AND DISASTER. 
          WE REALLY AREN'T TOUCHING THOSE. 
          SO I JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZED ALL OF THOSE FUND BALANCES FOR NOW OF ABOUT 11.4 MILLION, WHICH LEAVES 89 MILLION FOR THE REST. 
          AND I CALL THAT DISCRETIONARY FROM WHERE I CAME FROM IN MY PAST. 
          BUT THAT'S REALLY MONEY THAT, UM, IT'S SITTING IN THE GENERAL FUND OR THE CAPITAL FUND, HOSPITALITY, THOSE TYPES OF FUND BALANCES THAT REALLY MAKE UP THAT 89 MILLION. 
          SO CHINA GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF HOW WE'RE LOOKING TODAY BEFORE WE, UM, HAVE ANY DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE ON ANY CAPITAL SPEND GOING FORWARD FROM A FUND BALANCE MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND I WILL SAY THAT THE, WE DID INCREASE FOR THE LAND SALE AND THAT RESTRICTION, WE DID PUT FOUR MORE MILLION IN. 
          IT'S GONNA BE PROPOSED AT BUDGET, BUT I PUT THAT 4 MILLION AS A RESTRICTION FOR RIGHT NOW FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT IN ANY AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE NUMBER FIVE CASE. 
          UM, DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH THIS? DO YOU WANT ME TO? I'LL JUMP IN. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          SO WHAT THIS SLIDE SHOWS US, THE, UH, WHAT YOU ALL APPROVED AT THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, AND THEN WHAT THE PROJECTIVE ROLLOVER IS GONNA BE. 
          WE'RE STILL AT THAT 12 SEVEN NUMBER AND THEN THE UM, THANK YOU. 
          THIS NUMBER RIGHT HERE, THE 49 MILLION, WHAT WE CALL NEW PROJECTS ARE, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON TODAY. 
          THE, THE ROLLOVER NUMBER IS STUFF THAT'S ALREADY BAKED AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S COMING INTO, UH, IT'S IN SOME OF IT'S IN CONSTRUCTION AND WE'RE JUST FINISHING THINGS UP. 
          SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM FOR MOVEMENT THERE. 
          IT'S THIS NEW SPEND THAT, THAT HAPPENS WITH THIS $49 MILLION NUMBERS. 
          AND UH, DOWN BELOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT IS IF WE SEPARATE OUT THE DEDICATED ENTERPRISE FUNDS LIKE YOUR BEACH PRESERVATION FUND AND YOUR STORMWATER FUND, YOU CAN'T ENTER TRANSFER THOSE, YOU CAN'T USE THAT FOR FOR UH, UM, ANYTHING IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO, AND THEN WHAT THE GENERAL CAPITAL FUND WOULD BE AT 39 MILLION. 
          AND AS WE, WE TOOK THE ORIGINAL NUMBER OF THIS BASED ON THE PRIORITIES AND IT WAS MUCH HIGHER. 
          BUT WITH DON HELP 
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AND DAVE'S HELP AND THE WHOLE CIP TEAM AND THEN WORKING WITH MARK TO SAY WHAT, HOW DO WE BRING THIS INTO FISCAL REALITY INTO LOOKING AT THAT FUND BALANCE NUMBER THAT DAVE JUST SHOWED YOU? HOW DO WE UTILIZE THE CASH ON HAND BUT NOT DRAIN THE CASH ON HAND? AND THEN HOW DO WE ALSO HIT THE TARGETS YOU WANT TO HIT PER THE STRATEGIC PLAN? SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE THINK ABOUT AS WE'RE BUILDING THIS PRELIMINARY DRAFT CAPITAL PLAN FOR 2027. 
          AND HERE'S THIS, THIS IS THE, YEAH, MISS DON'S GOT A QUESTION. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS. 
          IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. 
          SO IF WE TAKE THE $62 MILLION AND APPLY IT AGAINST THE 183 MILLION, WE'D BE AT A HUNDRED AND UH, $21 MILLION IN OUR PROJECTED FUND BALANCE. 
          WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? THAT ESTIMATING, WHICH WOULD PUT US WELL BELOW WHAT WE ENDED 26 AND 25. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT POINT. 
          AND UH, SORRY, UH, THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, CAN WE GO BACK, I THINK IT'S ONE SLIDE, THE SAME SLIDE MELINDA WAS ASKING ABOUT. 
          YEP, THERE WE GO. 
          UM, SO, UM, AND I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THIS SLIDE AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE TOGETHER. 
          SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE DEDICATED ENTERPRISE FUNDS JUST ABOUT 10.5 MILLION. 
          THAT LEAVES 39.4 MILLION FROM GENERAL AND CAPITAL FUND. 
          UM, AND SO OF THE LIST OF PROGRAM TOTALS AND NEW PROJECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT THEM COLOR CODED AND MAYBE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE BLUE ARE THE ONES THAT COME FROM DEDICATED OR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE THE ONES BEING TAKEN OUT AT THE 10 POINT, ALMOST 10.5 MILLION DOWN BELOW. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE SURE HOW THIS ALL WORKS TOGETHER. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THIS, THIS SLIDE IS, IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE, OF THE TABLE YOU SAW BEFORE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CURB CIP YOU CAN SEE THE HOW MUCH OF THE BEACH, UM, AND THE DEDICATED FUNDS, THE BEACH AND THE STORMWATER MADE UP OF THAT, UH, LAST YEAR'S BUDGET CARRY FORWARD. 
          AND THEN THE NEW PROJECTS EQUALS THAT, THAT GRAND TOTAL OF 62 MILLION AGAIN. 
          AND THEN THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE, WE PUT INTO PLACE WITH ALL THESE FACTORS THAT WE WENT INTO OUR DECISION MAKING AND, AND, UH, TO COME UP WITH A PRELIMINARY PLAN. 
          UH, AND IF WE JUST PAY ATTENTION TO THE COLUMNS, THE PROOF BUDGET ON THE THANK YOU, YOU HAVE THE APPROVAL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THE APPROVED BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE PROJECTOR ROLLOVER COLUMN, NEW PROJECTS, AND THEN THE TOTAL. 
          SO IT'S THAT SAME PROCESS THAT WE SAW IN THE LAST TWO SLIDES. 
          IT'S, UM, WE WANTED TO KEEP THAT CONSISTENT AND I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH THIS LINE BY LINE FOR YOU BECAUSE THAT WOULD, WE WOULD BE HERE ALL NIGHT. 
          UM, BUT WHAT'S, WE CAN TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTED PROJECTS. 
          SO THE ISLANDERS BEACH PARK, THIS IS THE BEACH PROGRAM UP HERE AND WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE, THAT'S, UM, PROJECT WOULD BE FUNDED FROM THAT, THAT BEACH FUND. 
          UH, AND IT'S, IT'S A PRIORITY PROJECT THAT WAS IN THE, UM, IN THE, IN THE ORIGINAL PRIORITY LIST THAT YOU HAD APPROVED BACK IN MAY OF 25, I BELIEVE WAS WHEN THAT OCCURRED. 
          SO IF WE COULD GO BACK, AND I'M GONNA HELP, I'M GONNA HELP STEER THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT, WHAT, WHAT WE NEED FROM Y'ALL TODAY. 
          AND THIS IS GONNA GET A LITTLE, THIS ONE'S EASY. 
          I, I LOVE IT 'CAUSE IT'S EASY. 
          UM, WE'RE DONE WITH BEACH RENOURISHMENT. 
          MAY I, MAY I BORE WITH OUR, OUR FRIEND RIGHT HERE. 
          WHAT YOU'LL SEE UP HERE IS JUST SOME BEACH, AND I APOLOGIZE, IT, IT LOOKED A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON A DIFFERENT SCREEN, BUT IT LOOKS A LITTLE, YOU, YOU HAVE A HARD COPY AS WELL. 
          BUT $150,000 TOWARDS BEACH PARK MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THAT'S JUST MAINTENANCE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BROKEN UNTIL THE FISCAL YEAR STARTS. 
          UM, AND WE'RE MAKING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          BEACH MANAGEMENT IN, IN, IN MONITORING. 
          SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LOT OF, FOR A WHILE. 
          UM, SAND FENCE AND INSTALLATION POST EACH FREE NOURISHMENT. 
          THERE'S SOME DOLLARS PARKED IN HERE AS WELL. 
          VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE INSTALL PROFESSIONALLY AND, AND ON PURPOSE, THE SAND FENCE AND, AND, AND DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS UP AND ALONG THAT BEACH. 
          THE LARGE PROJECT HERE IS GETTING BACK TO WHAT 
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WE FIRST SAID WE WOULD DO A COUPLE YEARS AGO BEFORE BEACH RENOURISHMENT STARTED, IS TO IMPROVE THE BEACH PARK AT ISLANDERS. 
          IT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL PARKING STABILIZATION, IT HAS AS A MASTER PLAN, THE SCOPE FOR THREE PATHWAYS. 
          ONE, IT'S IN TWO ON EITHER SIDE'S, CALL IT BOOKENDS, SOME PARKING UP FRONT, WHICH WOULD BE THE PAID PAY, PAID A PAID A PARK, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. 
          PLUS THE SPACES THAT ARE CURRENT METERED THAT WILL BE MOVED WILL BE FOR ISLAND RESIDENTS WITH BEACH PARKING PASSES. 
          A TREMENDOUS ADDED VALUE, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT THAT, THAT THE TIMESHARE AND THAT THAT ROAD AND FOLLY FIELD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS AN IMPORTANT AREA FOR INVESTMENT. 
          AND SO WE'VE BASED THAT NUMBER OFF OF PAST OPINION OF COST PRICING AND PAST SCOPE. 
          WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT I HAVE TO DO WITH THESE FOLKS. 
          AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 
          WE STILL HAVE, I'LL CALL IT 69 DAYS, UM, FIGURE OUT THAT REAL PRICING AND WHAT WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN BUILD IT FOR. 
          WE'VE, AS TWO YEARS AGO WE WERE USING BEACH PRESERVATION REVENUE FOR THIS PROJECT AND I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE STILL USE THAT. 
          SO I I I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME NOW TO ASK, YOU KNOW, FROM COUNCIL, ARE WE STILL IN ALIGNMENT? ARE YOU STILL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS BEING AS A PRIORITY ITEM, UM, THE WAY IT WAS PROPOSED IN 25? RIGHT? UM, I STILL SEE IT AS A PRIORITY ITEM. 
          I JUST WONDER ABOUT THE SCOPE. 
          UM, AND I AM GOING INTO THIS WITH A FEELING THAT WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED IN TOTAL IS TOO MUCH. 
          AS I MENTIONED, YOU'D GO FROM 180 3 TO 1 21 IN YOUR MILLION DOLLARS OF FUN BALANCE. 
          AND LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE HUNGRY AND YOU GOT A LOT OF PROJECTS, IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE TOO MUCH TO CONSUME. 
          UM, NOT ONLY FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT I ALSO WORRY AGAIN ABOUT, UM, THE, UM, THE STAFF'S ABILITY TO KEEP UP WITH A NUMBER OF PROJECTS AS WELL AS VENDORS AS WELL. 
          AND WE SEE THAT EACH AND EVERY YEAR WHERE WE HAVE CARRYOVER THAT OCCURS. 
          AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE 40% OF CARRYOVER DOLLARS, UH, EXCLUDING THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT FEE. 
          SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES. 
          THIS IS WHERE I'M COMING FROM TO, UM, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF THE TOTAL. 
          AND SO I'M GONNA BE LOOKING AND CHIMING IN WITH SUGGESTIONS AND POSSIBILITIES OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UH, IN ORDER TO BRING THAT TOTAL DOLLAR DOWN SO WE DON'T END UP WITH A, A FUND BALANCE OF 121 MILLION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LEMME START WITH, YES, I SUPPORT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. 
          UM, I'M GONNA GO BACK A LITTLE FURTHER. 
          UM, I COMMEND MR. ORLANDO AND HIS TEAM FOR CONTINUING TO GET BETTER. 
          UM, I CAN REMEMBER THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE APPROVED A BUDGET TOGETHER AND THERE WAS SORT OF STICKER SHOT THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY 'CAUSE THE BUDGET HAD INCREASED BY SO MUCH. 
          UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T TALK ENOUGH ABOUT THE FINE PRINT, WHICH WAS THE CIP PROGRAM WAS THE REASON WHY THE BUDGET HAD WENT UP SO MUCH. 
          AND AT THAT POINT WE DIDN'T HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN. 
          WE'RE JUST SAYING, HEY, WE NEED TO CATCH UP. 
          WE'D STOPPED BECAUSE OF COVID, WE STOPPED BECAUSE OF SOME OTHER REASONS AND WE NEEDED TO CATCH UP. 
          THAT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          AND HERE WE ARE TODAY AND WE MOVED FORWARD WITH A FIVE YEAR PLAN TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          WE ALSO, AND I WISH WE HAD A SLIDE TO SHOW THIS, BUT WE'VE IMPROVED OUR BURN RATE FAR AS HOW WE GET THROUGH PROJECTS. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN BETTER, WE'VE GOTTEN MORE EFFICIENT. 
          I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ROLLOVER NUMBERS AND WE LOOK AT THE NEW NUMBERS, IT'S MORE REALISTIC THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. 
          SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THE APPROACH AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS TO SUPPORT WHAT STAFF'S PRESENTING. 
          UM, AND, AND I'M QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH PICKING UP NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A PROJECT THAT WE AGREED UPON YEARS AGO. 
          AND THE ONLY REASON THAT WE DIDN'T DO IT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH BEACH RE NOURISHMENT. 
          IT'S A NEED, IT'S A DEMAND THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
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UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          SO THE, IT SAYS A CONSTRUCTION OF NEW PATHWAYS. 
          SO IT'S THE EXPECTATION TO, I KNOW ORIGINALLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE REDESIGNING OF ISLAND BEACH, THERE WAS A REQUEST, A DISCUSSION AROUND NOT ONLY THE MAIN PATHWAY THROUGH THE PARK LEADING DIRECTLY OUT THROUGH, UH, TO THE BEACH, BUT TWO PATHWAYS ALONG THE SIDES. 
          AND, UM, THAT WAS VERY, VERY, UM, STRONGLY , UM, ENDORSED BY THE RESIDENTS WHO USED THAT PARK. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THE REASON FOR THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE TIMESHARES ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH WILL IMPACT THAT, UM, PARK FACILITY, UM, TO A GREAT EXTENT. 
          AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM, STARTING TO PUT PEOPLE IN THERE THIS APRIL. 
          SO IT'S THIS YEAR COMING UP. 
          SO WHEN WE SAY CONSTRUCTION OF NEW PATHWAYS, IS THAT FOR JUST THE MAIN PATHWAY OR IS THAT FOR TWO ADDITIONAL PATHWAYS OR ONE OF THE PATHWAYS? 'CAUSE AS I RECALL, WE KIND OF STAGGERED IT AND SAID NEW CENTER PATHWAY, YES, THAT'S BEEN DONE. 
          AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT DOING ONE OF THE TWO SIDE PATHWAYS AND THEN SEEING HOW THAT WORKED OUT AND DOING THE SECOND ONE IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN WHEN IT SAYS CONSTRUCTIONS OF NEW PATHWAYS? DOES THAT INCLUDE ALL THREE OF THEM? DOES THAT INCLUDE JUST ONE MORE OF THE SIDE PACK? WHAT DOES THIS INCLUDE? IT'S THE FULL SCOPE. 
          FULL SCOPE. 
          SO ALL THREE OF THEM YES. 
          WOULD BE MOVING ON. 
          WE COULD SCALE BACK. 
          I WOULD ASK YOU WHAT DO YOU PREFER? BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PRICE TO FULL SCOPE AND I, AND I INTENDED TO COME AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT, ABOUT THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE I, I'M CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT OF THE, YOU APPROVED A MASTER PLAN WITH THREE PATHWAYS, THE MIDDLE, THE LEFT, AND THE RIGHT FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS. 
          BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, IF I'M GONNA BID THIS OUT, I WANNA BID IT OUT ONCE AND I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND DO ANOTHER PATHWAY AND MOBILIZE AND COST THAT OUT A YEAR LATER. 
          SO DO YOU INTEND IT TO BE TWO PATHWAYS, THREE PATHWAYS, OR LEAVE THE ONE PATHWAY? WE MAKE A QUICK DECISION TODAY. 
          IT WOULD BE HELP. 
          THAT WOULD HELP ME A LOT. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED TO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED BEFORE US. 
          SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY CHALLENGING CONVERSATION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I, MAYBE WE ARE HERE TO, TO REVISIT THE SCOPE OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL BRING IT UP THAT SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ABOUT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF THE PLAYGROUND AND THE, AND THE SIZE OF IT. 
          WHEN YOU GOING TO A BEACH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO A PLAYGROUND PARK, YOU'RE GOING TO A BEACH. 
          RIGHT? DOES IT NEED TO BE THAT HIGHER SCALE, DOES IT OR DOES IT NEED TO BE SOMETHING LOWER? SO, AND, AND TO MRS. DUNN'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN WE, YOU KNOW, COST ENGINEER SOME OF THIS TO A REAL, YOU KNOW, REAL ASPECT THEN WE'RE NOT DIGGING INTO UNNECESSARY FUNDS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE PULLING INTO. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I I ASK, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA REDESIGN RESCOPE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS TODAY? MAYOR, I I DON'T THINK WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT. 
          I DON'T EITHER. 
          THAT'S, THAT WAS THE QUESTION WE WERE ASKED THOUGH. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED US TO RESPOND TO? CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, DO WE KEEP THESE AS PRIORITIES FOR PLANNING PURPOSES FOR THE BUDGET? YES. 
          YES. 
          AND THAT WE, WE KICK BACK TALKING ABOUT THE SCOPE BEFORE IT IS BID SO THAT THAT GIVES, UM, MR. ORLANDO AND HIS TEAM INFORMATION BEFORE IT'S BID RATHER THAN HAVING TO GO BACK OUT AND BID IT AGAIN. 
          UM, OR ADD SOMETHING TO, OR TAKE SOMETHING AWAY. 
          SO LET'S DO IT THAT WAY. 
          LET'S DECIDE, YES, THIS IS STILL A PRIORITY. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION BEFORE. 
          I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS, UM, IN, IN MY WARD GO TO ISLANDERS BEACH AND THEY'RE VERY PROTECTIVE OF IT. 
          AND, AND, AND THEY ENTERED INTO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. 
          AND I DON'T WANT TO STEP BACK FROM THAT DISCUSSION, BUT I WANNA BE MINDFUL OF BEING FRUGAL AS WELL. 
          UM, SO LET'S, LET'S SAY THIS IS A PRIORITY AND COME BACK TO US AND IF THERE'S SOME THAT WE WANNA LOOK AT THE SCOPE AGAIN, LET'S PUT THAT ON A LIST FOR LATER. 
          THAT'D BE MY SUGGESTION. 
          I I WOULD DARE SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, A, A PROPOSED BUDGET OF $5.4 MILLION WILL COME IN AT PROBABLY $6 MILLION. 
          AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE NEED TO TAKE AN EVALUATION OF, OKAY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD? AND, AND AS I RECALL, THIS WAS BID OUT AND IT CAME OUT ABOVE THE BUDGET AMOUNT AND THEN BEAT RENOURISHMENT CAME SHORTLY THEREAFTER. 
          SO IT WAS POSTPONED REALLY FOR TWO REASONS. 
          ONE IS IT CAME OUT ABOVE BUDGET AND BETWEEN NOURISHMENT. 
          SO WELL THAT, WITH, WITH THAT SAID, IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THESE PRIORITY PROJECTS 
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AS THE BIDS COME THROUGH AND HOW WE ADDRESS MR. ALFRED. 
          YEAH, I I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. 
          UH, PRIME, MR. MAYOR AND MS. BRYSON, UH, I'D BE VERY HESITANT TO REHASH A DECISION ON THIS THAT WE MADE ALREADY. 
          UH, AND THIS ISN'T THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO IT IN ANY EVENT AND DOING IT AT WHEN AFTER THE BIDS COME IN, THEY'RE NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          I THINK IT'S FINE. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND THE MANAGER FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A FIVE YEAR PLAN. 
          I THINK THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          YEAH, MR. MAYOR, I, I GUESS I, I I WANNA PUSH BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE I THINK WE, WE HAVE TO COME TO GRIPS WITH SOMETHING WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT AT OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION THAT IS GIVING THE TOWN MANAGER ROOM TO MOVE. 
          UM, I THINK HE SAID THAT SEAN GILLEN HAS BEEN QUOTED IN SAYING, I CAN GIVE YOU A NUMBER, BUT IT'S GONNA BE WRONG, BUT LET'S FACE SOME FACTS HERE. 
          UH OH. 
          WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH A NUMBER, IT IS GOING TO BE WRONG. 
          AND THEN WE START TALKING ABOUT TIMING, YOU KNOW, AVAILABILITY OF CONTRACTORS. 
          THAT ALL PLAYS INTO WHAT THE NUMBER'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE. 
          BUT WE KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS TABLE TRYING TO SCRUB BASED ON A WRONG NUMBER. 
          JUST THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THAT'S COSTING OUR STAFF, THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT'S COSTING AGAINST US BEING EFFICIENT. 
          SO I GUESS I'M PUSHING BACK A LITTLE BIT. 
          I SORT OF FEEL LIKE ONCE WE MASTER PLAN, START TO SET SOME PRIORITIES AND TIMELINES, POLICY MAKERS, LET'S START GETTING OUT OF THE WAY. 
          THAT'S SORT OF WHERE MY HEAD IS. 
          GOT IT. 
          MS. BECKER? WELL, SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AS I WAS LISTENING THAT THE QUESTION HAD BEEN ASKED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANTED TO STAY WITHIN THE SAME SCOPE AS WE HAD, UM, EARLIER, UM, I GUESS APPROVED. 
          AND AS I RECALL THAT CONVERSATION, THERE WAS A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE DOING BOTH OF THE SIDES, UH, PATHWAYS OR JUST ONE OF THEM, AND THEN REEVA WAITING, WHETHER OR NOT WE DO THE SECOND, UM, WITHOUT HAVING THOSE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF US, I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF A SAVINGS IT WOULD BE IF WE WENT MOVE, MOVE FORWARD WITH SAYING JUST DO BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME OR, UM, OR WHAT THE REALITY OF THAT IS. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE FOR US TO ACTUALLY KNOW. 
          BUT, UM, THERE ARE GOING TO BE TIMES AS WE'RE SITTING HERE AND THE DOLLARS ARE SHORT AND THE LIST IS LONG. 
          UM, AND I'LL USE Y'ALL'S, UM, Y'ALL'S ANALOGY. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO THE GROCERY STORE AND YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE GROCERIES IN THE CART AND SOMETIMES YOU ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY IN YOUR POCKET AND SO YOU HAVE TO PUT SOME STUFF BACK. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALL KNOW THAT ONE COUNCIL DOESN'T BIND ANOTHER AND REEVALUATING SITUATION, UM, IN THE REALITY OF TODAY, UM, IS A WORTHY EXERCISE. 
          AND I, I THOUGHT THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WERE BEING ASKED TO DO. 
          UM, IN THAT REGARD. 
          IF I HAD TO PRIORITIZE WITHIN THIS PROJECT, I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND HAVE FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT MOVING THAT PARKING THAT IS HELD OUT FOR, UM, NON-RESIDENTS. 
          THE PAID PARKING THAT WAS GOING TO BE MOVED OUTSIDE OF THE, THE GATE AREA, THAT THAT SHOULD BE, UM, DONE. 
          UM, THE PLAYGROUND, I THINK, UM, AS YOU MENTIONED MAYOR, WE COULD PROBABLY, UM, SCALE BACK AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THAT PARK PRIMARILY TO GET TO THE BEACH. 
          UM, SO THAT'S A PLACE WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME SAVINGS. 
          AND AS A FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL, I'M GONNA BE LOOKING FOR SAVINGS AROUND EVERY CORNER. 
          OKAY. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          YES, MARK. 
          WELL, I, I'LL JUST PARAPHRASE MESSAGE HERD LOUD AND CLEAR. 
          THIS IS, I THINK THE ONLY OUTLIER THAT I HAVE AS A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED, THAT THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ON DO WE BUILD ALL THE PATHWAYS AT ONCE? UM, WE'LL BID IT OUT, WHATEVER IT COMES IN AT, WE'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON HOW TO DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING LONG WORKSHOPS TO, TO PICK OUT PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT THERE CAN BE SOME COST SAVINGS IN THAT PLAYGROUND AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. 
          UM, AND, AND MS. BECKER IS RIGHT, I I, I DID ASK BE BECAUSE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, DOES THIS INCLUDE THE FULL SCOPE? AND IT DOES, IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING THAT YOU APPROVED. 
          AND IF IT COMES IN TOO HIGH, WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION. 
          AND REGARDLESS, I WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE PATHWAYS. 
          'CAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FULL SCOPE OF THE EXPECTATION OF COUNSEL IS. 
          I WOULD JUST BUILD THEM ALL IF THAT'S WHAT YOU APPROVED. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S FOR A LATER DAY. 
          UM, 
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WE TALKED ABOUT HARBORTOWN DREDGE. 
          WE HAVE SOME BEACH CONTINGENCY. 
          I THINK I MISSPOKE WHEN I SAID THIS IS GONNA BE THE EASY ONE, , BUT IT'S A GOOD ONE. 
          IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION IN HOUSE. 
          WE DO. 
          WE, I I BELIEVE WE CAN FIND SOME DOLLARS IN THE PLAYGROUND. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE, THE MOST ELABORATE PLAYGROUND THERE. 
          YOU CAN, YOU COULD PUT SOME LUMBER OUT THERE FOR THE KIDS TO CLIMB ON, AND THEY'D PROBABLY JUST BE HAPPY ON THE WAY TO THE BEACH. 
          SO STAY TUNED. 
          UM, PATHWAYS. 
          SO PATHWAY MAINTENANCE, UH, $500,000 DOESN'T SHOW THAT THERE'S MUCH OR ANY ROLLOVER AND WE'RE NOT PROJECTING AT LEASE AND ANOTHER 500 PLACEHOLDER. 
          YOU WILL SEE THAT WE'VE MADE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT IN PATHWAYS AND NOT JUST REPAIRING POTHOLES, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE CONNECTED SMALL PIECES THAT WERE UNCONNECTED. 
          WE'VE PUT IN A DA, UH, CURB, UM, AND ACCESS AT INTERSECTIONS. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK DEREK IS STRETCHING THAT $500,000 AS, AS FAR AND, AND AS FAST AS HE CAN, UH, APPRECIATE HIM AND HIS TEAM, JONESVILLE ROAD. 
          WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          JONESVILLE ROAD SEEMS LIKE AN EASY PROJECT. 
          PUT A PATHWAY UP AND DOWN. 
          JONESVILLE, THERE'S SO MUCH ENCROACHMENT INTO FRONT YARDS. 
          AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT THAT'S NOT THE HARD PART. 
          THE HARD PART IS THE STORM WATER RUNOFF. 
          BY THE TIME YOU SHEET FLOW OR FLOW WATER OFF THAT PATHWAY, YOU'RE WELL INTO PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS. 
          AND SO WE HAVE SOME THOUGHTS. 
          JEFF INGER CAME UP WITH A COUPLE OF GOOD SOLUTIONS RECENTLY AND WE OWE YOU A CONVERSATION. 
          UM, AND, AND AN UPDATE ON THAT. 
          UM, WE'RE ON OUR SECOND DESIGN ENGINEER TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THE JONESVILLE STRETCH. 
          UM, WE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE SAFETY, UH, FOR WALKING VIKING, WHATNOT, AND, AND NOT ENCROACH INTO FOLKS' YARDS AT, AT THAT, AT THAT SCOPE. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A BEAUFORT COUNTY ROAD AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN EXPECTATIONS. 
          DUNNIGAN ALLEY, UM, SEAN, HELP ME WITH THAT ONE. 
          GREEN, GREEN, GREEN LIGHT. 
          AND I'M GONNA LEAN ON DON A LITTLE BIT TOO. 
          THAT WAS A PROJECT AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TOO BECAUSE OF SOME RESTRICTIONS AROUND SETBACKS FROM THE, THE ELECTRICAL POLES. 
          BUT DON, DON'T YOU, THAT'S BASICALLY IT. 
          THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, UM, PAUSE ON THAT. 
          WE'RE REVISITING THAT WITH, UH, SANTI COOPER TO SEE WHAT WE CAN FIT IN WITHIN THERE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT DID, IT DID SET US BACK A LITTLE BIT IN THE TIME AND WE'RE, WE'RE OPTIMISTIC THAT, UH, NEXT YEAR WE CAN CONTINUE ON WITH THAT SOFT COST IN THE DESIGN AND THEN NOT, NOT TO GET IN TOO FAR. 
          AND SEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO READ THESE. 
          I CAN'T SEE THAT . 
          IT'S, IT'S LIGHT PRINT, BUT ALSO FAR AWAY. 
          I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S ME. 
          SO THIS PARKWAY DRIVE. 
          AND THEN, UH, UH, SO JUST A SERIES OF CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS TO PUT SYSTEMS AND ONGOING. 
          I THINK YOU SKIPPED OVER ONE. 
          I THINK YOU SKIPPED OVER NUMBER 12, WHICH IS ON 2 78. 
          A NEW PATHWAY THERE. 
          KEEP TALKING TO YOUR MIC, MY APOLOGIES. 
          UM, THE, UH, THIS ONE IS, IS SCHEDULED TO BE FINISHED UP IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          YOU SEE THERE, IT IS NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING FUNDING FOR THE NEXT ONE. 
          CONSTRUCTION WILL BE IN 28. 
          AND SO WE HAVE THE DOLLARS WE NEED. 
          IT'S A GRANT THROUGH DOT. 
          UM, THE REST OF THE, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL BE A LOT ON THE DOT GRANT. 
          IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE SPLITTING A, A SIGNIFICANT COST WITH THEM. 
          AND THEN YOU'LL SEE OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE OVER HERE, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT MS. BRYSON NUMBER 12, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE NOTES SELF-EXPLANATORY IN THE NOTES. 
          SO WE'RE BASICALLY WAITING ON S-E-D-O-T, 
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CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          YEAH, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO NEED TO TIE UP FUNDS THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO SOME NEW WORK AT LAGOON OR AT SOUTH FOREST BEACH NUMBER 13, NUMBER 14. 
          NUMBER 15 ARE SOMEWHAT NEW PROJECTS AND PRIORITIZED SOME SURVEY AND DESIGN WORK IN 27. 
          AND SO THE SOUTH FOREST BEACH HAWK, I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT BOTH FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM SOME OF YOU. 
          THERE'S A HAWK SIGNAL ON FOREST BEACH. 
          WE HAVE SOME REAL SIGNIFICANT ISSUES UP AND DOWN NORTH AND SOUTH FOREST BEACH WITH WHERE PEOPLE CROSS. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE STARTING SOME WORK THERE. 
          IT'S ALWAYS BEST TO PUT SOME SOFT COSTS IN YEAR ONE WHEN, AND REALIZE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A YEAR WHEN WE DON'T OWN THE ROAD, ESPECIALLY WITH DOT. 
          SO, UM, DITTO WITH THE LAGOON ROAD PATHWAY. 
          UM, WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY, MATTHEWS DRIVE TO SHELTER COVE, SOME SOFT COSTS TO TRULY, UH, GET INTO THOSE PATHWAY SYSTEMS IN THAT AREA. 
          SO, UM, USE THIS, SORRY. 
          YEP, YOU'RE COMING TO THE NEW ONE. 
          SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE REST THAT AREN'T SHOWING UP HERE, WE, WE DIDN'T TAKE THEM OFF. 
          IF THOSE ARE FIVE YEAR PRIORITIES, WE DIDN'T JUST ELIMINATE THEM FOR 27 AND, AND AND HIDE THE, HIDE THE ROW. 
          WE, WE LEFT THEM UP THERE. 
          BUT THEY'RE UP THERE FOR YOU TO REALIZE THAT THEY'RE NOT FUNDED, THEY'RE NOT PRIORITIZED. 
          WE'RE NOT SPENDING DOLLARS YET. 
          AND I THINK THAT AS YOU'VE REVIEWED YOUR PACKETS BEFORE THIS MEETING AND TODAY AND EVEN AFTER, IF SOMETHING'S JUMPING OUT AT YOU SAYING, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO BE PRIORITIZED IN FY 27, IT, IT, IT'S TIME TO DISCUSS THAT. 
          BUT WITHOUT THAT OCCURRING, YOU'LL SEE NUMBER UNDERNEATH 20, WE'LL SHOW NEW SOUTH FOREST BEACH DRIVE PATHWAY AT SEASCAPE VILLAS AND PORT ROYAL ENTRY PATHWAY. 
          OUR STAFF, OUR TEAM HAS IDENTIFIED SOME SAFETY RELATED CONCERNS ON SOME PATHWAY, PATHWAY STUBS, PATHWAY CONNECTIONS, AND WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING SOME SOFT COSTS TO, TO START, START BUILDING THO THOSE OUT IN AREAS THAT ARE HIGHLY TRAVELED AND, AND UNSAFE. 
          AND THEN SOME CONTINGENCY, UM, SORRY, BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE PATHWAY LIST, UH, TWO THINGS. 
          I'M, I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE SOUTH FOREST BEACH AT SEASCAPE VILLAS ADDED. 
          UM, I'VE RAISED THAT QUESTION. 
          I USED TO LIVE DOWN THERE AND, UM, I'VE SEEN FOLKS RIDE THEIR BIKES ACROSS THE ROAD THERE TO TRY TO RECONNECT WITH A WAY TO GET TO THE BEACH. 
          SO I I'M GLAD WE'RE ADDING THAT ONE. 
          THE OTHER THING I WOULD NOTE IS I KNOW THERE'S SOME FOLKS HERE FROM THE BIKE WALK BOARD, UM, AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING THEIR COMMENTS BEFORE REALLY COMMENTING MORE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO KEEP SOMETHING YES OR NO ON THE LIST. 
          SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST RESERVE THAT AFTER WE HEAR FROM THEM. 
          CR UM, AS MS. BRYSON INDICATED, THE UH, BIKE WALK ADVOCACY GROUP HAS RECOMMENDATIONS TO PRESENT, UH, LATER ON. 
          UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, UH, PATHWAYS AND BICYCLING HAS, HAS BEEN A, UH, HOBBY OF MINE FOR MANY YEARS. 
          HAVING SERVED FOUR YEARS AS HEAD OF THE KICKING ASPHALT GROUP AND 10 OR 12 YEARS ON THE BIKE ADVOCACY GROUP AND CREATED THE, UH, AMBASSADOR PROGRAM A DOZEN YEARS AGO. 
          UM, I HAVE SEEN THE MATERIAL THAT THE BIKE ADVOCACY GROUP WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT. 
          I, I THINK, UH, I WOULD HOPE THAT IT, IT COULD BE GIVEN SOME CONSIDERATION. 
          MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT SOMETIME AFTER THIS MEETING AND BEFORE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THE PATHWAY PROGRAM, THAT REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BIKE ADVOCACY GROUP HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH MR. GILLAND AND MR. ADAM, UH, AND DISCUSS IT. 
          UH, OBVIOUSLY THE STAFF, UH, ON CONSIDERATION OF THAT CAN MAKE ITS OWN RECOMMENDATION CHANGES IF, IF IT DESIRES TO DO SO. 
          UM, BUT I I I THINK THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE FURTHER DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN PLACE ON THE PATHWAY PROGRAM. 
          UH, FOR ONE THING, I'VE FOUND AN ITEM THAT I HAD SEEN ON A PRIOR VERSION THAT DOESN'T SHOW UP. 
          IT MAY HAVE BEEN LOST. 
          UH, I THINK WE NEED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THAT AS WELL. 
          MR. YES, I APPRECIATE AND SUPPORT SAFETY RELATED, UH, PROGRAMS. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THE PORT ROYAL ADDITION, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THOSE TIMESHARES ARE GONNA BE OPENING AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE INCREASED VOLUME OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THAT AREA. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, SOMETIMES YOU DO NOT SEE WHO IS ON THE PATHWAY AS YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THERE. 
          MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE, GIVEN THAT THERE ARE FIVE NEW PROJECTS HERE, IF YOU HAVE, UH, CONFIDENCE 
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ABOUT THE TIME AND CAPACITY OF BEING ABLE TO ADD THOSE ADDITIONAL ITEMS, UM, FOR THIS YEAR. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          I THINK THESE, THESE ARE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY, UM, EXAMINED BY STAFF FOR A WHILE AND DON'S TEAM IS READY, READY TO MOVE ON. 
          AND SO I THINK WE REALLY FEEL REALLY GOOD. 
          THEY'RE NOT HUGE PROJECTS, IT'S FROM SCALE, SO IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN HANDLE PRETTY RELATIVELY EASILY. 
          MORE QUICK THING, UH, MR. ALFORD SUGGESTED, UM, THAT THE STAFF MEET WITH BIKE WALK FOLKS. 
          UM, FOR SOMEHOW IN THIS PROCESS, I, LOOKING FORWARD, I COULDN'T REMEMBER, BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SCHEDULED, UH, TO MEET ON THESE PROJECTS ON MARCH 18. 
          SO IF STAFF COULD MEET WITH BIKE WALK FOLKS BEFORE IT GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION MIGHT BE HELPFUL IN THE PROCESS. 
          MARK, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU IN THE, THE TIMEFRAME THE STAFF HAS AVAILABLE. 
          YEAH, I'LL ASK THIS. 
          IF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS AND OR IF BIKE WALK IS HERE WITH A PROPOSAL, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO RECEIVE A PROPOSAL AND CONSIDER IN THE BUDGET. 
          UM, I'M SURE MR. GILL AND AND HIS TEAM CAN MEET WITH BIKE WALK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE PACKET GOING OUT. 
          SO IF THERE'S A PROPOSAL, WE'LL HAVE THE MATERIALS GREAT. 
          THEY'RE HERE TODAY, EVEN BETTER. 
          UM, YEAH, SO AS FAR AS THE PATHWAY PROGRAM IS CONCERNED, UM,  ANXIOUS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, THE BIKE WALK FOLKS HAVE TO, TO ADD AS WELL. 
          UM, AND I TRUST MR. ORLANDO TO HAVE A QUALIFIED CONVERSATION WITH THEM. 
          UM, I I WANTED TO USE THIS PROGRAM TO SORT OF HELP THE DISCUSSION LATER ON. 
          SO MY ROUGH MATH IS RIGHT, A THIRD OF THE 3 MILLION, APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION THAT BEING PROPOSED HERE ARE NEW PROJECTS. 
          AM I CORRECT IN THAT? I MEAN, ROUGHLY? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          LIKE, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING IS IF STAFF HAS CAPACITY AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A COMMUNITY NEED, COMMUNITY NEED FOR THESE REINVESTMENTS AND PUSH FORWARD. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          MR. MAYOR , THANK YOU. 
          COMMENTS. 
          ALRIGHT, ALL, UH, SO GREAT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, AT THAT PROPOSAL, BUT GOING UP FROM 1.6 AND 26 TO 2.95 AND, AND 27 ALL IN WITH SOME, WITH SOME PROJECT ROLLOVER. 
          SO, UH, SOME SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN PATHWAYS, ROADWAYS. 
          UM, I THINK FOR, FOR TIME'S SAKE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU WANT ME TO SPEED UP OR SLOW DOWN OR, OR THE PACE, BUT ROADWAY, ROADWAY MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND I'M NOT GONNA READ EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S JUST MAINTENANCE OF OUR ROADS, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, REPAIR POTHOLES, CURBING SHOULDERS, PAVEMENT MARKINGS. 
          AND I, I HOPE THAT LITTLE BY LITTLE WE'RE ALL STARTING TO REALIZE THAT MOST INTERSECTIONS ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND ARE RETRIED WITH A CONSISTENT STANDARD STRIPING PATTERN THAT YOU ALL HAD SOME VOICE ON ONE THAT IS ENDORSED AND SUPPORTED BY DOT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER NOT THAT THAT LONG AGO, UH, APPARENTLY MY THREE MINUTES ARE UP, UH, NOT THAT LONG AGO. 
          UM, WE HAD NO TWO INTERSECTIONS, NO TWO INTERSECTIONS, THE SAME SO THAT'S WHERE THAT FUND IS STARTING TO PAY DIVIDENDS. 
          IT'S A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME. 
          IT'S TAKING THOSE AREAS. 
          PALMETTO BAY ROAD WAS OUR VERY FIRST CASE STUDY OF LOW LEVEL LIGHTING, CROSSWALK, TRASH, CANNED KIOSK, AND A SAFER INTERSECTION. 
          UM, IT'S NOT PERFECT. 
          UM, FOLKS STILL SPEEDS, FOLKS STILL CROSS. 
          BUT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST WITH CONS. 
          CONSIST CONSISTENCY. 
          UM, WE PUT $200,000 AS A PROPOSAL IN THE TOWN ROAD RESURFACING PROGRAM. 
          THAT DOESN'T GO VERY FAR, BUT THAT WILL FILL SOME POTHOLES. 
          UM, SIGNAL MAINTENANCE, UH, TOTAL PROJECT, NEW, NEW MONEY. 
          I CALL IT FY TWENTY SEVEN EIGHT HUNDRED. 
          ROLL FORWARD SIX. 
          AND THAT'S THE MAINTENANCE OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEM. 
          THE TRAFFIC, REALLY THE TRAFFIC MASSED ARMS. UM, WE ARE IN A PLACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START REPLACING AND SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVING THOSE MASSED ARMS. THEY HAVE REACHED THEIR, THEIR, I WOULDN'T SAY END OF LIFE, BUT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING PRETTY FAR ALONG WHERE WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL TO NOT MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS. 
          SO, 
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ANYTHING TO ADD? DON? AM I, SEAN, AM I MISSING ANYTHING THERE? NO, YOU'RE RIGHT ON TRACK. 
          WHAT YOU WILL SEE AS WE BRING THIS BACK FORWARD, AND I WILL DO SOME ADVICE, MS. TANNER GAVE ME SHOW DISCRETIONARY AND SHOW SOME MAINTENANCE WORK. 
          RIGHT? DISCRETIONARY IS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT IN THE MAINTENANCES. 
          YOU ALMOST, YOU HAVE TO, TO KEEP, TO KEEP UP. 
          YOU WILL SEE A COLUMN BACK ON THIS AS WE GET THROUGH ALL OF THIS TO REALLY SPARSE OUT OUR, OUR MAINTENANCE FIRST DISCRETIONARY, UM, THE ONE I JUST MENTIONED DEFINITELY IS NOT DISCRETIONARY. 
          UM, AND THEN SOME, SOME MORE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING BEACH CITY ROAD, POPE AVENUE, WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY, MATTHEWS DRIVE, DUNNIGAN SQUIRE, POPE ROUNDABOUT, PALMETTO BAY ROAD AND CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. 
          UM, LAST YEAR WE PLACED 750. 
          I FORGOT TO DO THAT. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          NUMBER, NUMBER 25 750. 
          PUTTING $500,000 TOWARDS THAT THIS YEAR. 
          UM, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S MAINTENANCE WORK ON A LOT OF THAT. 
          UM, OUR THOUGHT IS LOW LEVEL LIGHTING. 
          AND LANDSCAPING IS A TRAFFIC CALMING ELEMENT IN A PUBLIC SAFETY PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO IT, OUR, OUR GOAL ISN'T BEAUTIFICATION. 
          I, I, I THINK THE OUTCOME THAT MOST FOLKS SEE IS THE BEAUTIFICATION, UM, AND THE ENHANCEMENT OF OUR CORRIDORS. 
          BUT THE REAL INTENT AND PURPOSE IS SAFETY. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE THAT DIRT ROADS, UM, SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          YOU SEE WHERE THOSE DOLLARS ARE. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL FINISH MITCHELLVILLE ROAD THIS YEAR. 
          I THINK THAT IS A LONG TIME COMING. 
          A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED IN A, IN, IN A LOT OF BENEFIT, UM, ON A SMALL PIECE OF ROAD, BUT A LONG TIME COMING. 
          I I WAS JUST GONNA ASK YOU IF THERE IS ANY UPDATE ON THAT. 
          HAS THE PLANT OPENED BACK UP AGAIN AND , ARE THEY DELIVERING ASPHALT? YES. 
          YES, IT HAS. 
          IT HAS TO BE 55 DEGREES IN RISING AND THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS HAVE BEEN, UH, NOT CONDUCIVE TO THAT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING TO KNOW IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS THAT SHOULD GET CRANKED UP. 
          I'M GLAD TO SEE NUMBER 29 IN THE DIRT ROAD PROGRAM. 
          THAT'S JUST SO YOU CAN GET HOME. 
          SO YOU GET HOME, MR. BROWN. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST ON THE DIRT ROAD PAVING PROGRAM. 
          UH, MR. ORLANDO, UH, MENTIONED TO US IN, IN, IN PASSING DURING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP THAT NEEDS TO DO SOME WORK WITH THE LAND ACQUISITION MANUAL, UM, TO SORT OF MOVE THINGS ALONG WITH THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE ACTION ITEMS IS TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE LAND ACQUISITION MANUAL. 
          I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT, UH, REDUCING OR BUY A BIGGER BELT. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW THAT MR. ORLANDO'S GOT A LOT GOING ON. 
          I JUST DON'T WANNA LOSE SIGHT OF THAT PIECE. 
          THERE'S ANY WAY TO ASSIGN A STAFF MEMBER TO JUST THAT PORTION OF THE LAND ACQUISITION MANUAL, BECAUSE IF NOT, WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO ROLL THOSE DOLLARS OVER YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE GOT SUCH MOMENTUM WITH THIS, THIS PROGRAM, UM, AS FAR AS FOLKS ASKING US TO PAVE ROADS THAT ARE IN VERY, VERY BAD CONDITION. 
          UM, MOST UNPASSABLE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND FOR US NOT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A POLICY CONCERN, I THINK IS, UM, INJUSTICE TO US. 
          SO IF WE COULD MOVE THAT PIECE ALONG, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          IT POLICE HAVE THE CONFIDENCE. 
          IT'S MOVING ALONG. 
          I HAVE A DRAFT OF THE LAND ACQUISITION MANUAL IN, IN MY EMAIL. 
          UM, WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THAT THAT'S ALIGNED WITH BEN, UM, WORKING TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT AND ADDING TO THAT BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION CRITERIA, BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT, TWO, TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WITH A LOT OF HELP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, STAYING WITHIN THE LEGAL LINES AS AS WELL. 
          SO THOSE ARE COMING FORWARD. 
          A LOT OF PROGRESS. 
          HAPPY TO SEE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, I WON'T GO OVER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE. 
          UM, THERE ARE, WE ISLAND WIDE INTERSECTION PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. 
          YOU CAN READ THAT TWO 50 LAST YEAR AND ASK FOR TWO 50 THIS YEAR WITH A FULL SPEND, 
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UM, JONESVILLE ROAD AND SPANISH WELLS  ROAD, RIGHT TURN LANE IMPROVEMENTS CIVIL DESIGN. 
          THAT'S ROLLING FORWARD. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE IN THE CIVIL DESIGN OF THE PATHWAY AND THOSE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, THOMAS AND HUNT IS OUR ENGINEER, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS WITH THE INTERSECTION, UM, AND TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THE PATHWAY THAT I, THAT I MENTIONED A SECTION AGO. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT NORTH POINT USPS ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, WE KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          THEY PUNCHED THROUGH THE POST OFFICE FROM NORTH POINT TO GUMTREE WITH SOME IMPROVEMENTS FOR PATHWAY AND INTERSECTION AND CROSSWALK ALIGNMENT, UM, ON GUMTREE ABBY WALK ENTRANCE. 
          UM, JUST REMAINS, WE'RE JUST SIMPLY ROLLING FORWARD, NOT, NOT NEW DOLLARS IN IN THAT REGARD. 
          UM, LET'S ROLL FORWARD. 
          WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY, GATEWAY CORRIDOR AND STONY CORRIDOR. 
          WE'VE PUT IN THERE, UH, $150,000, UM, TO FINALIZE THE CORRIDOR MASTER PLAN AND TO JUST LEAVE SOME INCIDENTAL DOLLARS WE NEED IN THERE. 
          STAY TUNED. 
          IF I COULD, UM, BRIEFLY ON THAT, JUST EXPAND A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE, UM, THAT IS A AREA OF CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          NOT TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF IT, BUT, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THAT MASTER PLAN AS WE ARE DISCUSSING WITH CONSULTANTS, THE, THE, THE PURPOSE OF IT. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT'S GONNA BE COMING FORWARD IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. 
          SURE. 
          UM, SO IF YOU COULD JUST EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, WELL, WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUR THOUGHTS TO PAPER BASED UPON A LOT OF INPUT TO DATE. 
          UM, WE HAVE AS A STAFF REFINED WHAT I WOULD CALL A CORRIDOR PLAN. 
          IT TAKES A LOOK AT SQUIRE POPE, UM, SPANISH WELLS WILDHORSE, UM, AND STARTS TRYING TO IMPROVE, UH, THE CORRIDOR FROM A, FROM A FLOW AND SAFETY STANDPOINT. 
          UH, I ANTICIPATE MAYOR PERRY, WITH YOUR APPROVAL AND TOWN COUNCIL'S KNOWLEDGE IN APRIL WORKSHOP, UM, OF TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY GATEWAY CORRIDOR, CORRIDOR PLAN IN APRIL. 
          I, I, I WANT TO, I WANNA GO AHEAD AND, AND JUST IN CASE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, LET THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE SPRING AND EARLY SUMMER. 
          AND FOR THIS MASTER PLAN, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTIES THAT HAVE TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          AND THE GOAL HAS BEEN TO BRING IT FORWARD SOONER, BUT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT HAVE PUSHED THIS DOWN THE ROAD JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          AND, UM, IF AN APRIL 28TH MEETING DOES NOT HAPPEN, THEN IT WOULD NOT COME BACK UNTIL JUNE BECAUSE WE HAVE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS IN MAY. 
          UM, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE IT READY TO GO ACCORDING TO, TO, TO YOU, MARK AND STAFF FOR THAT APRIL 28TH. 
          UM, AS LONG AS THE LEGWORK IS DONE WITH OUR, WITH, WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING AND, AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          YEAH. 
          OUR GOAL IS BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, RIGHT. 
          THAT WE'RE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          MOST IMPORTANTLY, WITH THE PUBLIC INVOLVED TO TAKE, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT CORRIDOR. 
          UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND'S FUTURE AND THE INVESTMENT, UM, IN HILTON HEAD ISLAND, REALIZING THAT THE DOT AND THE COUNTY FUNDS THROUGH THE REFERENDUM ARE PLACED DIRECTLY AND ONLY ON THE BRIDGE, RIGHT. 
          WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO, AS, AS I SAY, UH, ALL FOOTBALL DAYS, KEEP YOUR FEET MOVING. 
          UM, IN A TIME LIKE THIS, I, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE BRING FORWARD, UM, THAT CORRIDOR MASTER PLAN. 
          THE GOAL IS APRIL, I, I DO NEED TO TALK WITH A BUNCH, UH, DOT INCLUDED AND ESPECIALLY, UM, BUT NO SURPRISES FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, IT WILL BE PUBLIC, IT WILL BE WITH SOME INPUT. 
          IT WILL BE WELL ADVERTISED. 
          AND I JUST THINK THAT THE SOONER WE HAVE A HILTON HEAD ISLAND POSITION ON THE CORRIDOR TO IMPROVE FLOW AND SAFETY AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR THE FUTURE, RIGHT, FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS, UM, THE BETTER. 
          BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE A POINT THAT, THAT THIS LINE ITEM IS A BIG PART OF HOW WE ALLOCATE FUNDS GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME HEAVY EXPENDITURES HERE. 
          AND WITH THE TOOLBOX THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF A FINANCING TOOLBOX, WE'VE GOTTA LOOK AT EVERY ASPECT AND, AND, AND DETERMINE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR US. 
          SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE AS WELL. 
          SO THE $150,000, IS THAT TO DO THE PLANNING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON FOR THE QUARTER? YES. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          IN ANY OTHER INCIDENTALS, WE WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY WELL FUNDED FOR, FOR THE WORK I'M DOING RIGHT NOW, GETTING US TO THE WORKSHOP MORE OR LESS. 
          UM, 
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I NEVER KNOW WHAT COMES UP. 
          I NEED TO KEEP SOME, SOME SMALL DOLLARS IN THERE. 
          YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE SOME REAL PROJECTS THOUGH, RIGHT? AND A COUPLE PAGES FROM NOW, YOU'LL SEE SOME REAL PROJECTS THAT ARE STARTING TO BECOME OUTCOMES OF A CORRIDOR ENHANCEMENT. 
          YEAH, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE, UM, THESE, THESE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, TYPICALLY THE, UH, NUMBER 38 AND NUMBER 41. 
          KNOW THOSE, THOSE, THOSE WERE ITEMS THAT, UM, YOU KNEW WE SORT OF WERE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG ON WITH THE CORRIDOR PROJECT AND THE OLD REFERENDUM. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE'VE PROBABLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW, AND THEY ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO US HERE ON HILTON HEAD. 
          SO I GUESS MY, MY, MY REAL STATEMENT HERE IS, LET'S FACE SOME FACTS. 
          THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN JUST TURN AROUND AND BUILD IT TOMORROW. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE SOME TIME BEFORE WE CAN GET READY FOR CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO PREPARE THE COMMUNITY AND PREPARE OURSELVES TO THE MAYOR'S POINT. 
          THERE'S A GOING TO BE A PRETTY HEFTY NUMBER THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT, BUT I THINK WE ALSO WILL TAKE THAT NUMBER AND USE THAT AS MOTIVATION, PULL TOGETHER A FUNDING PLAN TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND NONE OF THAT HAPPENS UNLESS WE START THE ENGINE OURSELVES HERE LOCALLY. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS IN THERE. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND FAR PAST TIME FOR US TO GET TO THIS POINT. 
          I THINK THAT THE, UM, COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HAVE BEEN VERY INTERESTING. 
          UM, AND WHAT I WANTED TO PICK UP ON IS THE, ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT WAS MADE WITH REGARD TO THE MONIES THAT WERE, UM, ORIGINALLY SET ASIDE, ALLOCATED, EXPECTED FROM THE 2018 REFERENDUM THAT WERE, ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO US BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN REDIRECTED TO THE BRIDGE ONLY. 
          AND SO IT CERTAINLY IS MY EXPECTATION THAT WHEN WE'RE GOING BACK TO LOOK AT THE DOLLARS FOR THIS MASTER PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, WORKING ON, AND I, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO APRIL, UM, GETTING THAT IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. 
          SO, UM, BUT ALONG WITH THAT, THERE'S GOTTA BE A BIG ASK AND NOT NECESSARILY A FROM THE TOWN RESIDENTS, BUT A BIG ASK FROM THE STATE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY EXPECT US TO PAY FOR IT, UM, FROM THE COUNTY FOR HOW THEY EXPECT US TO PAY FOR IT SINCE THEY LITERALLY HAVE LEFT US OUT TO DRY. 
          AND, AND YOU CAN PROBABLY HEAR THE IRRITATION, MY VOICE, AND IT WON'T STOP. 
          UM, BUT THOSE, THAT WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, MAYOR, THAT YOU REFERRED TO THE CONVERSATIONS, THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN AND RESULTS THAT NEED TO COME BACK WITH DOLLARS AND FOR THESE PROJECTS. 
          AND THERE IS NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE, YOUR HONOR. 
          YOU HAVE A GREEN LIGHT. 
           OKAY. 
           MOVING FORWARD. 
          NOT THIS PAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I ASKED THIS QUESTION. 
          OKAY, WE'RE GOOD, SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING RIGHT ALONG MAIN STREET, WE OWE YOU, UH, ANOTHER ROUND OF DISCUSSION ON, ON MAIN STREET. 
          LAST TIME WE LEFT, UH, WE HAD A PLAN THAT INCLUDED PATHWAY SIDEWALKS, STREET LIGHTS, CROSSWALKS, MIDBLOCK CROSSWALKS, CONNECTIVE PATHWAY TO AND FROM WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY TO AND FROM MAIN STREET, AS WELL AS, UH, TRYING OUR BEST TO FIT IN SOME ON STREET BIKE LANES, UM, ONLY WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND SO NOW THAT WE'RE A LITTLE FURTHER, UM, WITH, WITH, WITH A TEAM THAT'S ALIGNED ON HOW TO, HOW TO BUILD AND, AND DESIGN AND BUILD, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TOGETHER AND SHOW YOU RIGHT THE OPTIONS AND THE HURDLES BASED UPON YOUR COLLECTIVE INDIVIDUAL AND MOSTLY COLLECTIVE, UM, GOALS ON THAT ROAD. 
          WE OWE THAT TO YOU. 
          WE HAVE PLACED SOME DOLLARS IN HERE. 
          UH, WE, SINCE THERE'S SOME READING AHEAD, WHICH I ALWAYS DO, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING MAIN STREET BE ONE OF THE PROJECTS, AT LEAST WE PROPOSE TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY REFERENDUM, UH, TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERENDUM. 
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SO WE'VE LEFT SOME DOLLARS IN HERE RIGHT NOW, JUST SO THAT WE COULD CONFER REALLY TO REFINE EXPECTATIONS, IF THAT MAKES IT THAT FAR. 
          THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A, A NOTE HERE, SEAN, TAKE A NOTE TOO, UM, THAT, THAT MAIN STREET, WE NEED TO COME BACK AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S WHY THOSE DOLLARS ARE BACK IN THERE. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE PROJECT FUNDS FOR THAT ROAD. 
          THAT'S A, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE TO FUND. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD SAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROAD TO FUND PARALLEL ROAD TO WILLIAM HILL PARKWAY, UH, CONNECTS SCHOOL AND OTHERS. 
          AND IT'S A, IN, IN MY OPINION, ONE OF, UM, THE MOST UNDERUSED ROAD AS A SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL. 
          UM, WHEN WE, WHEN I SEE KIDS COMING OUT OF MY HOME, I SEE KIDS WALKING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD UNSAFE TO AND FROM SCHOOL, LET ALONE EMPLOYEES WALKING. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WE FINALLY HAVE. 
          BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO GET BACK TO THE TABLE AS SOON AS WE CAN ON THAT ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT, ERIC, I'LL SAY DITTO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          I KNOW A NUMBER OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACCESS ALONG MAIN STREET, ESPECIALLY GOING TO AND FROM THE SCHOOL AREA. 
          AND, UH, WE CERTAINLY NEED IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS BACK ON THE TABLE WITH HIGH PRIOR OR WITH PRIORITY. 
          ALRIGHT, MY PAPER, SEAN, SEGMENT FIVE, NUMBER 52. 
          I'M DOWN IN NUMBER 52. 
          UM, SEGMENT FIVE, MATTHEWS DRIVE TO FOLLY FIELD ROAD TO SHELTER COVE. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE THOROUGHFARES AND CORRIDOR WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR SOME SAFETY, LANDSCAPING, INTERSECTION LIGHTING AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. 
          PHASE ONE IS SURVEY AND DESIGN, AND ONCE WE UNDERSTAND SURVEY AND SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN, UH, WE HAVE TO COME BACK OR WE, WE WILL COME BACK AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. 
          THERE'S SOME DECISIONS TO MAKE. 
          IT'S A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, HOW SAFE, UM, AND DRIVEWAY IMPACTS AND, AND INTERSECTION TREATMENTS AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO TH THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE FULL FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT THEIR ROAD. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T CONFIRMED YOUR, UH, COLLECTIVE DECISION ON SCOPE. 
          UM, FIRST STEPS WE'RE PHASE ONE ON THE SURVEY. 
          UH, WE HAVE TO DO SOME PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND THEN COME BACK TO Y'ALL. 
          UM, SO I SENSE A CIP REAL CIP ROLL OUR SLEEVES UP WORKSHOP IN OUR NEAR FUTURE TO START SCOPING SOME OF THIS WORK. 
          IT'D BE GREAT. 
          IS THIS, SO FAR SO GOOD? IS THIS WHAT YOU WERE THINKING WE WERE GONNA DO? I WAS ABOUT TO ASK YOU THE SAME THING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          EXCEPT NO, NO ONE HAS SAID TAKE THAT PROJECT OFF THAT LIST YET. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE, THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, I THOUGHT, AND I TRIED AND I WAS SHOT DOWN. 
          SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          BE HONEST WITH YOU, DI DITTO. 
          IT DOESN'T LIKE PEOPLE ARE IN MOVING PRIORITIES, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING, AND I JUST THINK THAT THIS, THIS CONVERSATION IS, IS GOOD TO HAVE SO THAT WE ALL KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. 
          I USUALLY DO THIS BY MYSELF. 
          I USUALLY DO THIS WITH MY TEAM. 
          I USUALLY DO THIS TALKING WITH YOU ALL. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE, THE EXTRA LAYER THIS, THIS YEAR AT A WORKSHOP IS SO HELPFUL TO ME. 
          UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN WE GET OUTTA HERE, IF I STILL HAVE THAT TOTAL AMOUNT OF, OF, OF FUNDS, UM, I HAVE TO MEET WITH DAVE, THEN I HAVE TO TALK WITH YOU, UH, DIRECTLY AND ONE AND ONE OR SO AT A TIME AS WE PREPARE THE BUDGET AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS. 
          AGAIN, THIS ISN'T MY FINAL BUDGET PROPOSAL, THIS IS HEARING YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          WE JUST KEEP REMINDING OURSELVES OF THAT. 
          I'M JUST IN CONCERNED ABOUT THAT PROCESS AND HOW WE DO THAT. 
          'CAUSE THERE, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF TIME, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TIME. 
          WELL, TODAY'S, THERE'S NO BETTER TIME THAN THE PRESENT. 
          YES. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE ROLL UP THE SLEEVES TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS MEETING. 
          SO I I'M, I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED. 
          I I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT THE PRIORITY OF THE PROJECTS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, THOSE WHICH WE ALL AGREE UPON, NOT THE, NOT THE ACTUAL MASTER PLAN OF EACH ONE OF THEM, BUT FOR ALL THE MASTER PLANS AND THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE, WHAT IS IT THAT CAN BE DONE AND NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO THE PHYSICAL YEAR 25 BUDGET? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          WELL, I DON'T THINK WE'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION ABOUT 
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CAN IT BE IN THE BUDGET YET? I MEAN, ANYTHING COULD BE IN THE BUDGET, BUT WHAT ARE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF IT BEING IN THE BUDGET? UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION YET. 
          WE'RE HAVING IT NOW. 
          . 
          I, I I GUESS I'M, I'M HEARING THAT THERE MAY BE SOME PROJECTS OF DISCUSSION TO TAKE OFF OF PRIORITY, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD THOSE. 
          WHAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR IS WHAT IS IT GONNA COST AND CAN WE SAVE SOME MONEY? SO I GUESS I'M, I'M TRYING TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR OUR COLLEAGUES HERE. 
          IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE OFF, THEN LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION OPENLY TODAY. 
          WELL, IT'S NOT ABOUT TAKING OFF IT'S PRI PRIORITIZATION. 
          WE HAVE, WHEN YOU ADD UP ALL OF THE PROJECTS FOR 2027, IT'S A HUNDRED PROJECTS. 
          AND SO THEY'RE ALL THE SAME PRIORITY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE DIFFERENT COLOR DOTS OR DIFFERENT COLOR STARS. 
          AND SO THERE'S NO CONVERSATION ABOUT, I'M NOT SAYING TO CUT ALL OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT WORTHWHILE PROJECTS. 
          IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE PACING OF THEM. 
          AND EVERYTHING THAT I'M HEARING FROM, YOU KNOW, IS THAT WE SHOULD DO THEM ALL FOR 27. 
          AND I THINK THERE'S JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE PA YOU KNOW, THE PACING OF THEM. 
          AND MY CONCERN IS NOT ONLY WITH THE PACING OF THE 27, BUT THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON DESIGN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 150 TO $300,000, THAT'S JUST FOR THE DESIGN PART. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA SPEND ALL THIS MONEY DESIGNING AND THEN WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR THEM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          AND SO EVEN THOUGH WE'VE LAID OUT FIVE YEARS OF A CIP PLAN WITH STARS, WE DON'T, I DON'T SEE A FIVE YEAR CIP PLAN WITH DOLLARS. 
          AND SO I WORRY ABOUT WE CONSUME ALL THIS MONEY THIS YEAR, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACTUALLY BUILD THESE THINGS IN THE OUT YEARS? BECAUSE ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET COMPLETED YET, YOU'VE, YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN US SOME PRELIMINARY RESULTS THAT OUR REVENUE IS ONLY GONNA INCREASE BETWEEN ONE TO 2%. 
          EXPENSES GROW FASTER THAN ONE TO 2%. 
          AND SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE PRESSURE, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT PIECE. 
          AND IF OUR REVENUE IS FLATTENING, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK AHEAD, NOT JUST FOR 27 AND WHAT WE CAN CONSUME, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FIVE YEARS LOOK, LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE CAN PACE OURSELF PROPERLY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T END UP IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO THEN FOLLOW THROUGH ON THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'VE COMMITTED ON BUILDING. 
          SO I I, I'M GLAD THAT MS. TURNER MADE THAT POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THINK THERE'S SOME BEAUTY IN THIS PROCESS THAT DOESN'T SEEM NECESSARILY A HUNDRED PERCENT THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR NOT. 
          I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT ROLLOVER EARLIER, OVER EARLIER, AND THERE'S ROLLOVER THERE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS. 
          I'M SURE THE TOWN MANAGER CAN GO THROUGH AND HAVE HIS STAFF EXPLAIN TO US EACH ONE OF THE ROLLOVER ITEMS AND WHY THEY'RE BEING ROLLED OVER. 
          RIGHT? SO, AND ISLANDERS BEACH, I'LL GO BACK TO THAT ONE AS A PRIME EXAMPLE. 
          I MEAN, IF WE HAD OUR WAY THAT MONEY WOULD'VE BEEN SPENT, THE OTHER PROJECTS WHERE THE OTHER HICCUPS THAT COME INTO PLAY THAT FORCE US TO ROLL OVER. 
          SO I THINK, AGAIN, I'M, I'M SORT OF A LITTLE HESITANT ABOUT SAYING WHAT'S THE PRIORITY FOR 27, NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN TO MAKE THAT PROJECT HAPPEN. 
          BECAUSE YOU CAN SAY IT'S A PRIORITY AND THEN YOU RUN INTO SOMETHING LIKE A-S-E-D-L-T SITUATION AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN'T DO IT. 
          BUT THAT MAY FREE UP SOME STAFF TIME TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          SO THOSE THINGS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN AND I, I'VE GOT A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THE TOWN MANAGER BEING NIMBLE ENOUGH TO KEEP US MOVING. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S SORT OF WHERE MY HEAD IS ON, ON THIS, UH, EXERCISE TODAY. 
          SO SECOND, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE COUNCIL HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AND REVIEW A CI PROGRAM IN THE FASHION THAT WE'RE DOING IT TODAY. 
          PREVIOUSLY. 
          IT ALWAYS JUST GOES RIGHT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE LIST OF CIP PROJECTS, AND IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION IT SITS AND THEY TRY TO PRIORITIZE, UM, THE LIST. 
          AND I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER A TIME WHEN I DIDN'T SIT IN THAT ROOM AND LISTEN TO THEM PUT ONCE 
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BY EVERYTHING. 
          BUT WHEN EVERYTHING'S A PRIORITY, REALLY NOTHING IS A PRIORITY. 
          I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD THAT BEFORE. 
          AND IT FEELS LIKE TYPICAL GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE LIST AND THEN NO ONE WANTS TO SAY NO LATER, NO ONE WANTS TO REVISE IT LATER. 
          AND NO ONE WANTS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE COST OF IT LATER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS AN ELECTION YEAR. 
          SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US BECAUSE WE ARE CARRYING AND DEDICATED CIVIL SERVANTS TO THIS TOWN THAT WE REMEMBER THAT OUR JOB IS TO GET THINGS DONE IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY. 
          SAVING THE TAXPAYER THEIR DOLLARS AND PRIORITIZING THEIR DOLLARS ON WHAT IS CONSIDERED SAFETY FIRST. 
          AND THEN LOOK IN OUR GROCERY BASKET AND SEE WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE. 
          DO WE REALLY NEED THE EXTRA BOX OF CAKE FLOUR WHEN WE'RE NOT GONNA BAKE A CAKE FOR ANOTHER YEAR? MY POINT BEING IS, LET'S PUT ALL ASIDE, IF WE CAN, HOW TYPICAL, TYPICALLY GOVERNMENT WORKS AND REALLY TRY TO FOCUS IN ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS TODAY. 
          IT'S JUST A REQUEST. 
          I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I I'M REALLY CONFUSED HERE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          'CAUSE IF, IF THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT WE WANT TO TAKE, AND I'M OPENING THIS UP BECAUSE I WANT US TO SPEAK FREELY AMONGST EACH OTHER. 
          IF WE, IF WE'RE SAYING THAT, THEN TO ME THE NEW ITEMS SHOULDN'T BE ON HERE. 
          WHY ARE WE PUTTING NEW ITEMS ON HERE IF WE'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN'T DO THE OLD STUFF? I, I'M REALLY CONFUSED. 
          I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMUNITY PUSH FOR THIS REINVESTMENT IF THERE'S NEW ITEMS SHOWING UP. 
          SO THERE'S ARGUMENT THAT WE DON'T PUT 'EM ON HERE AND WAIT UNTIL 28 TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEW ITEMS. ITEMS. OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE IMPORTANT, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ON THERE. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M GETTING A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AS FAR AS WHAT THE COUNCIL IS TRYING TO DIRECT THE TOWN MANAGER TO DO HERE. 
          I, I, I, I'M, I'M HEARING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH, BUT NOBODY'S SAYING PUT THE ORANGES BACK BECAUSE WE ALREADY GOT APPLES. 
          I, I GUESS I, I, I NEED US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN. 
          WE'RE TALKING IN GENERALITIES HERE. 
          IF WE EXPECT THE TOWN MANAGER TO DELIVER TO US, YOU GOTTA BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IT IS. 
          THAT'S NOT A PRIORITY IN 27. 
          AND I'M NOT HEARING THAT. 
          WELL, I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S THE FUNDING ASPECT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT ALL THE PROJECTS CAN BE DONE WELL IF WE TRY TO DO ALL THE PROJECTS. 
          LEMME REPHRASE THAT. 
          IF WE TRY TO DO ALL THE PROJECTS, WE'LL GO BROKE. 
          WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          BUT I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND, AND I, AND GOING THROUGH WHAT HAS BEEN A PRIORITY, REALIZING WHAT, OKAY, AT THE END OF IT, THERE'S GONNA BE A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THAT'S TIED TO IT. 
          AND YES, WE NEED THE DIRECTIVE OF, OF MARK AND STAFF AS TO WHAT THE CAPACITY IS. 
          THEN IT'S, OKAY, WHAT IS THE PRIORITIES TO GET DONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT ARE THERE? AND THEN WE START PULLING THINGS BACK AND SAY, OKAY, THAT NEEDS TO BE IN 28. 
          WE CAN HOLD OFF ON THAT. 
          THAT DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT AS THE OTHER ITEMS DO. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS FROM OUR LENSES AS TO HOW WE HELP MARK DRIVE THAT VOTE. 
          MARK, I I WANT YOU TO CHIME IN AS WELL. 
          YEAH, I'LL JUMP, I'LL JUMP IN. 
          THIS IS GREAT BECAUSE IN IN PAST YEARS, I'VE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU AND THEN WE'LL SIT ONE AND TWO AT A TIME AND PRESENT THE BUDGET. 
          AND WHAT WAS ASKED OF ME IS HOW CAN TOWN COUNCIL GET INVOLVED EARLIER AND BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRIORITIZATION, THIS IS THAT OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT? UM, AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK SOMETIMES JUST TALKING THROUGH IT HELPS. 
          I'M GONNA SCALE BACK SOME OF THESE PROJECTS BASED UPON THE FUND BALANCE, UM, THAT WE HAVE AND THE FUND BALANCE RESERVE THAT, THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY INCREASED EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? OUR BOND RATING IS AAA. 
          WE'VE PAID OFF SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEBT, WE'VE BORROWED SOME MONEY, UM, SOME DOLLARS AT A DEBT MILLAGE. 
          WE KNOW WHAT WE CAN USE IT FOR. 
          WE'VE SHARED WITH YOU TODAY, AND I THINK IT'S REAL CLEAR, WE'RE GOING TO USE 10 MILLION OF IT IN FISCAL YEAR 27. 
          UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE THAT PROPOSAL TO YOU HOW THAT CAN BE USED. 
          I THINK YOUR CONVERSATION TODAY NEEDS TO GET BACK IN, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION TO, OF THESE PRIORITIES. 
          ARE THERE SOME THINGS THAT YOU DON'T WANNA SEE UP THERE? IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO GO. 
          YEAH, NOT YET. 
          I KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO ALL OF THIS. 
          THIS IS GONNA TAKE US THREE YEARS THOUGH, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, BY THE TIME YOU DESIGN PERMIT, FIND STATE MONEY, FIND EARMARK MONEY. 
          BUT IF IT'S NEVER A PRIORITY WITH A FUND ATTACHED TO IT, THEN A DOT, RIGHT? S-C-D-O-T WON'T TAKE IT SERIOUS. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
          NOW THAT SEA PINE CIRCLE IS A PRIORITY AND IT'S IN HERE, IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR PRIORITY GUMTREE ROAD INTERSECTION. 
          IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO HOW THAT INTERSECTION 
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FLOWS. 
          IF IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST, WE WON'T SPEND OUR DOLLARS ON IT. 
          AND I HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING YEAR WHEN WE ADD UP THE BUFORT COUNTY SALES TAX REFERENDUM AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT A TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT. 
          'CAUSE IF I COULD, I, I WOULD ASK US ALL TO JUST, AND REALIZE THESE ARE PRIORITIES. 
          WE HAVE TO TRULY BAKE THAT TIFF OVER THE NEXT 12, 18 MONTHS, AND WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU HOW TO DO THAT. 
          UM, IF, IF YOU FEEL STRONGLY THAT YOU SEE A PROJECT UP HERE THAT YOU SAY, ABSOLUTELY NOT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A NEXT TIER PROJECT, PLEASE TELL ME TODAY AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND SHOW YOU WHAT A BALANCED BUDGET LOOKS LIKE ACROSS ALL SIX FUNDS, INCLUDING THIS. 
          GREAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I PERCEIVE THAT THIS WOULD GO DOWN AS WELL. 
          BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT, TO YOUR POINT, THAT IF IT'S IN ENGINEERING YEAR ONE, IT'S IN PERMITTING IN YEAR TWO, THEN IT'S CONSTRUCTION IN YEAR THREE. 
          WE KNOW THAT THINGS TAKE THREE YEARS. 
          UM, PICKLEBALL COURTS PERFECT EXAMPLE. 
          I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOTTA GO THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES TO GET THE APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE DESIGN, THE DESIGN TOOK EIGHT MONTHS, RIGHT? PERMITTING'S GONNA TAKE ANOTHER 12 MONTHS. 
          SO THEY'VE GOTTA BE IN THERE SO THAT THEY DO GET DONE DOWN THE ROAD. 
          AND WE'VE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AS TO WHICH THEY GET DONE. 
          UM, AND ALSO THE LIFT WITHIN THAT YEAR THAT IS REQUIRED OF STAFF. 
          SO, AND THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK BACK TO Y'ALL TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S NOT A HEAVY LIFT. 
          HAVING IT IN THERE AS A PRIORITY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE WORK'S BEEN DONE AND WE'RE LETTING THE STATE FIGURE OUT THE PERMITTING, BUT WELL, THERE'S FOLLOW UP. 
          SO IT MAKES IT, IT MAKES IT HARD TO TALK ABOUT WHICH SPECIFIC PROJECTS TO MOVE THE PRIORITY TIMEFRAME, BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF THEM THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT YEAR ONE. 
          SO THEN AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENS IN YEAR TWO AND YEAR THREE WHEN THEY ALL ARE COMING UP TO BE BUILT? AND SO DOES THAT, SO THINKING ABOUT THAT WAY, IS THERE A WAY THAT SOME OF THE, THE PERMITTING OR DESIGN WORK SHOULD BE PUSHED ANOTHER YEAR BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GONNA BE HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO PACING MOVING FORWARD? AND THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT I TOOK WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY IS. 
          AND SO I ASK, YOU KNOW, I ASKED THE QUESTION, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO DO THAT? WELL, IT REALLY PUTS YOU IN AN AWKWARD POSITION AND I'LL, I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 
          UM, IT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE HIGH PERFORMING, YOU DELIVER. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT EASY TO SAY, EH, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE I CAN DO ALL THAT. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, IT IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE OF MINE IN REGARDS TO, AGAIN, A HUNDRED ITEMS WITH MONEY. 
          IT'S A LOT. 
          AND LIKE SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE COMING UP, I HEARD YOU SAY, WE HAVE TO PUT MONEY OUT THERE SO THAT WE SHOW THAT IT'S A PRIORITY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT. 
          SO IF WE HAVE TO PUT MONEY, DO WE HAVE TO PUT THAT MUCH MONEY? I MEAN, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES AND, UM, HELPFUL. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL THE LOVE AND SUPPORT  OF MY, OF MY PEERS IN REGARDS TO THAT CONVERSATION. 
          AND, AND MAYBE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED. 
          BUT, UH, I'M CONCERNED, UH, REGARDING THE PACING, THE AMOUNT, UM, THE IMPACT FINANCIALLY FOR 27. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THESE PROJECTS AREN'T IMPORTANT, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW WE LINE THEM UP AND HOW WE PACE THEM. 
          IF I COULD, I'D APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION. 
          I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SORT OUT HOW TO WORK ON HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD, WHAT'S A COMPROMISE HERE? HOW CAN WE INCLUDE ALL THE ELEMENTS THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE MENTIONING? UM, AND, AND SO I'M, I KIND OF WROTE DOWN A PROCESS THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT THIS EARLY LOOK BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE BY STATUTE IT'S A PLANNING COMMISSION THAT LOOKS AT THIS LIST AND SETS UP PRIORITIES. 
          AND I, I AGREE  THAT WITH MS. BECKER. 
          I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN 'EM SAY OTHER THAN EVERYTHING'S A ONE. 
          UM, I THINK WE NEED TO SAY, YOU NO LONGER HAVE ONES, YOU GET TWO THREES AND FOURS, SO NOTHING'S A ONE ANYMORE. 
          UM, BUT ANY RATE, UM, I, I THINK NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LIST TO SAY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE HEARTBURN ABOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT DOING? IT'S LIKE MAKING OUR GROCERY LIST, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, AND, AND THEN, UM, STAFF WILL GO BACK WITH ED AND, AND COMPLETE A LIST FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT, AND WE'LL BEG OF OUR FRIENDS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO PLEASE LOOK AT IT WITH REGARD TO PRIORITIES AND HELP US OUT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE STAFF HAS 
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TO GO AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WHERE CAN WE GET MONEY FROM? UM, AND, AND TO MS. TURNER'S POINT, NOT JUST WHERE CAN WE GET MONEY FROM THIS YEAR, BUT IN THE NEXT YEARS TO ACTUALLY GET THE PROJECT DONE. 
          UM, AND THAT THEN COME BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL, UH, WHEN WE DISCUSS OUR BUDGET AND SAY, HERE'S SOME AREAS THAT, UH, WE RUN INTO BUZZ ALL WITH, WITH REGARD TO FUNDING OR OUR THINKING ABOUT AND WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS DECIDED. 
          AND THEN WE CAN MAKE OUR FINAL CUTS, IF YOU WILL, ON THE LIST. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO THINK THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          UM, AND, AND MAYBE TO ASK STAFF TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT DO YOU THINK WE CAN REALLY DO? CAN WE EVER FIND FUNDING FOR PROJECT X? IF WE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN NEVER DO, THEN Y HAVE IT ON THE LIST. 
          UM, BECAUSE I, I AGREE. 
          I DON'T WANNA PUT GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD IF WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON PLANNING AND WE CAN NEVER DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A PIE IN THE SKY TO GO AND GET MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE TO DO IT, THEN WHY DO THE PLANNING FOR IT? I, I AGREE WITH THAT, BUT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          I THINK STAFF CAN HELP US OUT WITH THAT AND HELP US CALL IT THAT WAY, JUST TO KEEP THE CONVERSATION POSITIVE. 
          I, I THINK THAT BEACH RE NOURISHMENT IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. 
          I MEAN, THAT WAS A BIG NUMBER. 
          HE DIDN'T SAY IT WASN'T A PRIORITY. 
          SAID, YES, IT'S A PRIORITY, IT'S GONNA COST US A LOT OF MONEY. 
          WE COLLECTIVELY CAME TO THE TABLE AND SAID, OKAY, IT'S TIME TO START PAYING A BIGGER CHUNK OF THAT. 
          HOW DO WE DO IT? WE HAD A VERY QUALIFIED CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE GOT THERE. 
          SO I GUESS I WANNA TAKE THE EDGE OFF AS FAR AS WHAT THE MONEY'S GONNA LOOK LIKE TWO OR THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE WE'VE PROVEN THAT WE HAVE FOUND WAYS TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND I JUST WANNA KEEP THAT SORT OF ALIVE. 
          I I, I, I'M CURIOUS IF, IF DAVE HAS ANY COMMENTS THAT HE WANTS TO THROW IN ON THIS SINCE, SINCE HE IS THE MONEY MAN OVER THERE. 
          UM, AS AN ASIDE, HE TOLD ME NO ABOUT, I, I SAW THAT, BUT I THOUGHT I'D PUT HIM ON THE SPOT. 
           WHO STORY. 
          THANKS, MARK. 
          UM, I, I, I THINK THE INTERACTION'S GOOD. 
          I, I REALLY DO. 
          AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT BANDWIDTH TO MOVE AND FLOW. 
          WE'VE GOT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES IF NEED BE AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. 
          WE'RE KIND OF IN YEAR ONE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND SO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT I GAVE YOU AND WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'LL KIND OF REACH A, A HAPPY MEDIUM THROUGH THIS. 
          AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR GOAL PERSPECTIVE, AS WE GO THROUGH OUR OPERATION REVIEWS, WE CAN LAYER ON WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND SEE COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT IT IS, HERE'S WHAT IT IS. 
          UM, BUT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, FROM A LEARNING EXPERIENCE PERSPECTIVE, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THREE MONTHS IN MYSELF, UM, AND LOOKING AT THE PRIORITY OF THESE PROJECTS, UH, I, YOU KNOW, I WENT THROUGH THIS IN OCTOBER AT ANOTHER LOCATION, AND EVERY PROJECT WAS A PRIORITY OVER FIVE YEARS. 
          I MEAN, THEY ARE, AND I CAN TELL YOU THE FUNDING DIDN'T LOOK THAT GREAT OVER FIVE YEARS, BUT THEN IT WOULD, IT IS JUST, BUT THEN THERE'S WAYS TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. 
          TO YOUR POINT, AS WE GO DOWN THE ROAD AND THERE ARE CONCESSIONS THAT WOULD BE MADE, UH, WE DO HAVE FLAT REVENUES, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT THROUGH THIS. 
          BUT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT, UH, THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE SO FAR FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN AS TO WHERE FOLKS ARE AS WE GO DOWN THROUGH THESE PROJECTS. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, BACK TO MARK'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, I THINK GET DIRECTION AS BEST WE CAN, UM, AS WE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO FORMULATE WHAT DOES A PRELIMINARY BUDGET LOOK LIKE FOR 27? OKAY. 
          I KNOW WHY I ASKED HIM TO SAY SOMETHING. 
          NO, HE'S GREAT. 
          I, AND I'LL ADD THIS. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS HELPFUL IS, IS YOUR CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I'M STARTING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, IT, IT, IT IS NOT TO BORROW, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I SAY THAT. 
          AS A TOWN MANAGER, I HAVE NEVER BORROWED GENERAL FUND DEBT TO BUILD A PROJECT IN MY LIFE, AND THAT WOULD BE NOT MY PRIORITY. 
          I'M PROUD OF THE FACT THAT I'VE BEEN WITH THE TOWN AND EVERY YEAR WE'VE ADDED A FUND BALANCE, PAID OFF DEBT, INCREASED BOND RATING. 
          WE JUST HAD RATING AGENCY CALLS LAST WEEK WITH DAVE ON THE 35 UP TO $35 MILLION. 
          UM, WE'RE IN GREAT SHAPE. 
          I THINK WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS, IS THAT WE HAVEN'T ALL BEEN IN ONE ROOM COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER 
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TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE. 
          AND THE FUTURE IS THE CIP, RIGHT? IT'S MY JOB TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE NEXT 25 YEARS. 
          AND THAT IS THROUGH INVESTMENTS. 
          BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE PRICE A PROJECT AND WAIT TWO YEARS, THE COSTS GO UP CONSIDERABLY. 
          WE, I'M, I'M AT THE POINT I THINK IN, IN, IN MY LIFE AND IN PROFESSION, I DON'T THINK THE COSTS ARE GOING DOWN. 
          I USED TO THINK THAT. 
          I'M LIKE, NO, IT'S JUST A REALLY GOOD TIME AND EVERYBODY'S JUST BLOWING AND GOING AND BUYING BIG BOATS AND BIG TRUCKS AND THAT THE PRICES WILL COME DOWN WHEN THE ECONOMY CHANGES A BIT. 
          IT, IT'S NOT, WHAT I THINK'S REALLY IMPORTANT THOUGH, IS THAT AS WE GET THROUGH THESE PROJECTS, WE TALK ABOUT OUR OPPORTUNITIES WITH FUNDING TOOLS, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT TIFF, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE YET TO GO SPEND TIME, MONEY, ENERGY, TALK TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND, AND OTHER PARTNERS ON TIFF WITHOUT YOUR CLEAR DIRECTION AND REALLY TRANSPARENT DIRECTION THAT A TIFF DISTRICT SHOULD BE OR COULD BE IN OUR FUTURE TO FUND SOME OF THE THINGS UP HERE WE THINK WE CAN'T AFFORD. 
          AND THE SAME GOES FOR STORM WATER UTILITY FUNDS. 
          IF WE WANT TO BUILD MORE THAN $6 MILLION, AND THESE TWO PLUS, JEFF JUST PROVED THEY CAN BUILD STORM WATER A LOT FASTER THAN WE COULD 24 MONTHS AGO. 
          WE'RE BUILDING IT SO FAST THAT WE'RE ALMOST DIPPING BELOW THE FUND BALANCE. 
          I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THAT. 
          SO COULD WE BORROW STORMWATER IN THE FUTURE? AND, AND WHAT IS UP HERE, RIGHT? IN THE PAST WE'VE ALWAYS SAID, WELL, WE DON'T WANNA BORROW STORMWATER. 
          AND, AND I THINK I QUOTE MYSELF, I DON'T WANT TO BRING TO YOU A RATE INCREASE IF WE'RE NOT EFFICIENT OR I CAN, CAN'T PROVE WE'RE EFFICIENT AND I DON'T WANT TO BRING YOU, UM, A 20 OR $30 MILLION STORM WATER DEBT STRATEGY IF I CAN'T SHOW YOU WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE, RIGHT? I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE BEEN REALLY, WE HAVEN'T BEEN AS GOOD TO TELL YOU WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO BE OR SHOULD BE, AND IT'S UP HERE. 
          AND SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? WHY DON'T WE KINDA GET BACK ON THAT TRACK OF LET'S GET THROUGH THESE PROJECTS. 
          WE STILL HAVE WHAT I CALL 69 68 DAYS, UM, TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT BALANCING A BUDGET. 
          I HAVE TO BALANCE THE OPERATING BUDGET BEFORE I TRULY CAN BALANCE THIS. 
          UM, IT WILL BE HERE ANOTHER 30 OR 60 DAYS BY THEN. 
          UM, BE EVEN BETTER  AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. 
          WHAT YOU DO SEE UP HERE ARE THE NEW PROJECTS. 
          I, I WILL SAY, AND FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, WE DID NOT COME UP WITH THESE PROJECTS, Y'ALL AT DIFFERENT TIMES, YOU KNOW, FULL DISCLOSURE, RIGHT? SEAN'S LAUGHING OVER HERE, , AND I'M HIDING BEHIND 'EM A LITTLE BIT. 
          YOU HAVE ASKED ME TO PUT SOME OF YOU OR INDIVIDUALLY, YOU'VE ASKED ME TO PUT THESE PROJECTS ON HERE AND I'M, I'M EXCITED TO PUT THEM ON HERE. 
          I JUST WANT US ALL TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE ON HERE AND NOT ONE OR TWO AT A TIME. 
          NO, THAT FAIR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S JUST KEEP, KEEP MOVING. 
          YOU WILL SEE WEXFORD SEA, PINE CIRCLE, WELL THAT REALLY MEANS SEA PINE CIRCLE SEGMENT EIGHT, NUMBER 55, I THINK THAT SAYS 55. 
          WE ARE ANY DAY NOW, WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE A FINANCIAL, UH, AGREEMENT LETTER, UM, FROM THE S-C-D-O-T THAT WOULD ALLOW ME TO BRING WITH SEAN GILLEN AND TEAM THAT AGREEMENT BACK OR TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO TRANSFER FUNDS TO THE DOT TO ALLOW THEM OR ASK THEM TO BE A PROJECT MANAGER ON THE SEA PINE CIRCLE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO STAY TUNED, THOSE DOLLARS ARE, ARE GOING TO ROLL FORWARD, BUT I SLOW DOWN AND MAKE YOU SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE THAT THAT IS A PRIORITY. 
          AND DOT, UH, AS RECENT AS I THINK THIS WEEK OR LATE LAST WEEK WITH YOU, THEY TALKED TO YOU AND SAID THAT THAT AGREEMENT'S IN, IN, IN THEIR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND IT'S, AND IT'S, OR WITH DON AND IT'S, AND IT'S COMING TO US AS FAST AS THEY CAN GET THEIR, THEIR LEGAL TEAM AROUND IT. 
          SO STAY TUNED. 
          LAWYERS THAT ARE SLOWING THINGS UP AGAIN. 
          YEP. 
          I I DIDN'T WANNA MAKE ANY EYE CONTACT, BUT YES, THAT IS WHAT THEY SAID, SO I AGREE. 
          SO I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, MAYBE LISTEN A LOT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHILE THAT PROJECT IS ON THE PAPERS AND I SEE IT AS A PRIORITY AND I SEE A LOT OF DOLLARS ATTACHED TO IT, I DON'T RECALL ANY REAL CONVERSATIONS AMONG THE COUNCIL, UM, AND HOW THAT GOT THERE. 
          UM, AND, AND SO I'M INTERESTED IN SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THIS. 
          UM, WE HAVE ROADS LIKE GUMTREE AND SPANISH WELLS, UM, THAT ARE HIGH ACCIDENT AREAS, SAFETY BEING THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COUNCIL. 
          AND, UM, AND I DON'T SEE THEM MOVING AND YET I DO SEE THIS COMING FORWARD 
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AND DOLLARS ATTACHED TO IT AND THE REST. 
          AND SO I, I'D JUST LIKE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION, PLEASE. 
          UH, I DON'T REALLY CARE WHO I, I'LL, I'LL DO MY BEST. 
          THE BACKGROUND, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY IN THE CIP FOR AT LEAST 1224 MONTHS. 
          UM, SOME OF THE ISSUE HAS BEEN, UM, CAPACITY OF CIRCLE COMPARED, RIGHT? AND WE HAD THAT WORKSHOP COMPARED WITH, YOU KNOW, FLOW THROUGH THE CIRCLE WITH CHANGING TRAFFIC PATTERNS FROM POPE HEADING AWAY FROM THE BEACH AND FROM SEA PINES HEADING OUT OF SEA PINES. 
          THAT, THAT HAS BECOME A CHOKE POINT, SO TO SPEAK, AT THAT CIRCLE. 
          WE'VE TAKEN A STAB AT TRYING TO SOLVE IT. 
          WE'VE HAD A WORKSHOP. 
          I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING WASN'T QUITE THE RIGHT PERFECT SOLUTION. 
          UM, AND ALSO NOT WHAT DOT WAS WILLING TO TOLERATE. 
          SO I'VE SAID, WELL, IF THEY HAVE SUCH A, IT'S, IT'S THEIR CIRCLE, IT'S THEIR ROAD. 
          UM, ARE THEY INTERESTED IN HELPING US? THEY SAID YES, BUT WE WOULD LIKE SOME FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS PROJECT FUNDED AS PART OF THE S-C-D-O-T FUNDING, UM, BUDGET AND ASKED FOR SOME DOLLARS TO HELP, UM, WITH THOSE SOFT COSTS AND THAT DESIGN AND ENGINEERING, WHO ULTIMATELY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ENTIRE PROJECT. 
          WAS, IS THAT GONNA FALL ON THE TOWN OR IS THAT COMING FROM ELSEWHERE? YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS I KNOW HAVE BEEN HAD, I WASN'T A PARTY TO THEM, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN THE DETAILS IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS OVERALL PROJECT AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, UH, HOW IT GOT TO BE SUCH A STRONG PRIORITY WITH SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS ATTACHED TO IT. 
          UM, WHEN WE HAVE THESE OTHER AREAS OF CONCERN ACROSS THE ISLAND, UM, THAT ARE DEATH, THAT ARE LITERALLY RELATED TO DEATHS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IS, IS STILL TO ME, AND IF I'M HAVING THIS CONVERSATION NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PRIORITY OVER THIS ONE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC BACKUP. 
          WE HAVE ROADS THAT ARE TRAFFIC BACKUPS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND, AND I'M ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE THAT, THAT YOU SEE ON THE LIST BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPORTANT AND THERE ARE SAFETY FACTORS IN, IN THE WARD THAT I REPRESENT. 
          UM, BUT THIS TO ME DOESN'T FEEL AS THOUGH IT'S COME THROUGH THE CHANNELS IN THE MOST TRANSPARENT WAY. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME, THE TOWN WAS GONNA TAKE THE LEADERSHIP IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SEA PINE CIRCLE REMEDIES AND HAD RETAINED AND USED THE, UH, OUTSIDE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS KIMLEY HORN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THEY CAME UP WITH A NUMBER OF DESIGNS. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE, UH, UH, SEA PINES COMMUNITY SERVICE ASSOCIATES WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS IN, IN TERMS OF GREENWOOD. 
          UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS WOULD'VE BEEN MONEY THAT WE WOULD'VE SPENT WITH KIMLEY HORN GONNA GET INTO, IF THE STATE TAKES OVER, THE STATE WILL TAKE THE SAME MONEY AND GIVE IT TO THE, PRESUMABLY THE SAME ENGINEERS TO DO THE SAME WORK RECALL. 
          DO YOU RECALL THOSE PLANS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT VARIOUS SEGMENTS AND, AND PARTS OF, UM, THE ROADWAYS WHEN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLANS ACROSS THE ISLAND WERE PRESENTED TO US? UM, SO YES, THAT WORK WAS DONE, DID DO RECALL THOSE PLANS BEING PRESENTED TO US, BUT JUST REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO ME. 
          SO THIS $350,000, UM, STEVE, THAT'S MONEY THAT WE ARE GOING TO TURN OVER TO S-C-D-O-T FOR THEM TO DO THE SAME WORK THAT WE WOULD'VE DONE OURSELVES. 
          I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THIS PROCESS IS. 
          IF, IF ON ON THE PROCESS OF THE MONEY AND THE SO WHAT YEAH, THE C-D-O-T-I UNDERSTAND BE THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS. 
          I JUST WANNA KNOW THE CONTINUED, UM, UH, COMMITMENT FROM THE TOWN WITH REGARD TO DESIGN COSTS, ET CETERA. 
          UM, WHERE DOES THIS $350 GET US? AND THEN WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE, THE SCOPE AND THE DESIGN AND ALL THE REST? I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY, UM, A, UM, CONSENT LIKE WE HAD TO DO WITH THE, WITH THE BRIDGE. 
          UM, GIVEN THE PEOPLE WHO OWN VARIOUS PARTS OF IT, UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE DETAILS ON WHAT THIS IS REALLY ALL ABOUT, RIGHT? AND I THINK THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE TO GIVE YOU AT THIS MOMENT TILL WE GET THAT LETTER FROM DOT 'CAUSE I GOT THE SAME QUESTIONS. 
          WHAT ARE THEY GONNA REQUIRE OF US? THEY'RE GONNA BE THE PROJECT LEADER ON THE DESIGN PIECE, AT LEAST FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          WHAT ARE THEY GONNA SAY IN THAT, IN THAT LETTER? WHAT'S THE ONGOING FINANCIAL COMMITMENT OF, OF THE TOWN? AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE BRING IT TO YOU, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN HAVE THAT DEEPER CONVERSATION ABOUT, IS THIS STILL A PRIORITY FOR YOU, KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE DOT IT'S THEIR ROUTE IS GONNA TAKE OVER? THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO I I I DON'T, IS IT ANTICIPATED THAT 
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THE DOLLARS FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE COMING FROM THE TOWN OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS COMING FROM OTHER AREAS TO PAY FOR? I'M JUST GONNA ANSWER THAT. 
          YEAH, I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS, THIS IS MUCH LIKE IN, IN, IN ABOUT 20 SLIDES YOU'LL SEE THAT IT, THIS COULD BE ONE OF THE PROJECTS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT FITS THE CRITERIA AS A SYSTEM ENHANCEMENT, UM, WITH THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OTHER DOLLARS COULD ALSO BE EARMARKED FROM DOT. 
          UM, THERE'S, THERE'S IMPACT FEES IN THE FUTURE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S ALL KIND OF DIFFERENT SOURCES OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDS THAT COULD HELP FUND THAT. 
          BUT AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A $10 MILLION SOLUTION OR A $5 MILLION SOLUTION AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, I JUST KNOW THAT IT WAS ASKED, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT STRATEGIC PLAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT WORKSHOP. 
          WE'VE MADE THIS A PRIORITY. 
          IT'S NOT THE HIGHEST. 
          I WILL SAY THAT I, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME FOLKS IN SEA PINES THAT CALL ONCE IN A WHILE, UM, ASKING IF THIS IS AS MUCH A PRIORITY AS, AS OTHER THINGS I'VE, I'VE KEPT MY EYE ON THE BALL OF THE CORRIDOR AND YOU'LL SEE THOSE NEW PROJECTS IN THE CORRIDOR ACCORDINGLY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          MARK. 
          I KNOW YOU HAVE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND STAFF AND THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON, UM, ON MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY FOCUSED ON THAT CORRIDOR AND THOSE INTERSECTIONS WHERE WE HAVE SAFETY CONCERNS AND THEN WE KNOW THAT GUMTREE ROAD IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS ROAD AND ONLY INCREASINGLY BECOMING MORE CONGESTED AND THEREFORE, UM, MORE SAFETY CONCERNS ARISING FROM THAT. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU'LL KEEP ME AND ALL OF US UPDATED AS THIS IS COMING ALONG, I WOULD APPRECIATE MORE INFORMATION. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO FOR TIME'S SAKE, WE'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE HOURS. 
          MAYOR, HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THIS WITH Y'ALL? 'CAUSE I THINK I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TIFF SOONER THAN LATER. 
          WELL, UM, AN HOUR. 
          YEAH, TWO HOURS. 
          UH, I WAS GONNA THREE HOURS , BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE RELEASE WAS THREE TO SIX, SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ADJUST AT SIX . 
          ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S, LET'S TAKE A A LOOK REAL QUICK AT THIS FROM A, FROM A PRIORITIZATION STANDPOINT. 
          YOU'LL SEE NEW PROJECTS NUMBER 57. 
          I APOLOGIZE, THAT'S, THAT'S SO THOUGH FADED THERE. 
          WE WON'T DO THAT AGAIN. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S 57 THAT SAYS THE FOLLY FIELD ROAD, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS THERE FOR A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS OF OF OUR MONEY OF OUR OF OUR TOWN DOLLARS SOURCE OF SOURCE OF DOLLARS. 
          I KNOW DAVE KNOWS, DOT HAS SIGNED OFF ON A PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENT ON THEIR STREET, A REDUCTION OF SPEED. 
          AND, AND I APPRECIATE MS. BECKER'S HELP WITH THIS AND, AND FRANKLY CONSISTENT, UH, STANDARD SET OF LET'S FIX THIS PEDESTRIAN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE THOSE TIMESHARES ARE ALMOST BUILT AND THAT ROAD IS ABOUT TO GET BUSIER AND ESPECIALLY AS WE START TRYING TO BRING ISLANDERS BEACH PARK ONLINE, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOME WORK WITH DOT AND WE ALWAYS HAVEN'T HAD THAT WORK WITH THEM. 
          UM, I THINK OUR, OUR LAST LARGER PROJECT WAS DI TO BEACH CITY ROAD. 
          HOPE. 
          WE'RE ALL PROUD OF THAT. 
          THAT WAS OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY AND SOME OF OUR MONEY AND IT WAS PRIORITIZED WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE MONEY SOURCE WAS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I WILL REMIND US OF THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS ANOTHER GOOD ONE THAT DOT HAS APPROVED. 
          SO STAY TUNED FOR CROSSWALKS, SOME SPEED HUMPS, SPEED REDUCTION, AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND SO THIS NEEDS TO REMAIN A HIGH PRIORITY HERE. 
          UM, WE DO A RESTROOM BREAK FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM. 
          IS THAT POSSIBLE? GUMTREE ROAD? YOU CAN GET UP AND GO TO THE RESTROOM IF YOU NEED TO. 
          MR. BROWN, JUST TAKE A BREAK FOR EVERYBODY. 
          OH, UH, MR. ORLANDO, JUST SO THAT I'M CLEAR ON THE FOLLY FIELD ENDEAVOR. 
          SO WE APPROVE 70 5K AS FISCAL'S BUDGET. 
          NOW YOU'RE SAYING TO US TO COMPLETE PROJECT IT IS GONNA COST US A QUARTER OF A MILLION. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          SORRY, I SHOULD BE CLEAR ON THAT. 
          OH NO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M GOING BACK TO TRUST IN THE PROCESS, RIGHT? OKAY. 
          THIS WAS A, THIS WAS A PRIORITY WE AGREED AND NOW YOU'RE COMING BACK TO US SAYING RIGHT, WHAT IT'S GONNA COST RIGHT. 
          TO GET IT DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          AND THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE SPREADSHEET THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE FOR DESIGN PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION ON, ON THIS WORK. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA SHOW CONSTRUCTION WHEN WE COME TO YOU AT, AT A BUDGET. 
          SO I'M EXCITED, RIGHT, DON, SEAN. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, HERE'S SOME NEW, SOME NEW ONES. 
          GUMTREE ROAD CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, I THINK I, I'LL KEEP IT SHORT, BEN SAID IT. 
          BEST , UM, UH, AT THE NORTH POINT, GROUNDBREAKING, WE NEED TO PUT SOME INVESTMENT IN GUMTREE CORRIDOR, SQUIRE 
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POPE CORRIDOR, UM, SQUIRE POPE AND WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT, SPANISH WELLS AND WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT. 
          AND I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE FOR A SECOND. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE FOUR HAVE SOME CONSIDERABLE DOLLARS IN THERE. 
          THOSE WOULD START THE REAL DESIGN WITH I WOULD SAY DOT BUT WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY SOMEWHAT INVOLVED IN SOME DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS AND ENHANCEMENTS ON THOSE ROADS. 
          THE, THE SQUIRE POPE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS OF DESIGN MONEY. 
          I'D SAY THAT'S AN OUTLIER. 
          THOSE ARE RFPS, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, STRIPING LIGHTING, SIGNAGE, ALL OF THAT, THE, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS TO MAKE SOME PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS ON SQUIRE POPE. 
          VERY SIMILAR, UM, AT, AT A SMALLER SCALE THAT YOU SEE DILL TO BEACH CITY AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE ON FOLLY FIELD. 
          SO THO THOSE WE FEEL THAT WE HEARD FROM Y'ALL, WE ALSO HEARD FROM, FROM EACH OTHER. 
          UM, KNOWING THAT THOSE ROADWAYS ARE IMPORTANT, WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE FUNDS. 
          OF COURSE, FOR THE INTERSECTION AND IMPROVEMENTS, I'D SAY GUMTREE, WE HAVE SOME, BUT WE DON'T HAVE FOR SQUIRE, POPE OR, AND SPANISH WELLS IN, IN THAT LARGE, IT IS MY JOB POST BUDGET TO GO MEET WITH, UM, AND FIND SOME DOLLARS AT THE STATE FOR THESE ROADS, RIGHT? AND, AND BY ALLOCATING FUNDS TO THESE PROJECTS, IT SHOWS THE STATE THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING TO FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDING. 
          YES, IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO BE IN CHARGE OF WHAT WE CHARGE, OF WHAT WE ARE DESIGNING AS AN IMPROVEMENT, WHERE WE TAKE THE, UM, OUR DESTINY REALLY IN OUR, IN OUR OWN HANDS. 
          CAN I JUST SAY THANK YOU? I KNOW I'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT TOUGH TODAY, BUT I WOULD DO WANNA SAY THAT THESE AREAS IN, IN THAT DESCRIPTION OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS, IS, IS IN MY MIND A PERFECT PROCESS AND THESE ARE THE ROADS THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON, UM, IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC THROUGHPUT, ALL OF THE REST. 
          UM, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THESE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU ALL AS WELL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          QUICKLY. 
          I, I AGREE. 
          I APPROVE OF THOSE ADDITIONS. 
          UM, MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IS, IS THIS SEPARATE, ARE THESE SEPARATE PROJECTS, SEPARATE FUNDINGS OTHER THAN THE, UM, WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY MASTER CORRIDOR MASTER PLAN REQUEST? YES. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          JUST SEPARATE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CONNECTED, BUT SEPARATE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          UH, I'M HEARING, I GUESS I'M NOT HEARING TO TAKE THESE OFF. 
          THESE, THESE WERE NEW. 
          THESE, THESE CAME UP. 
          THIS WAS BASED UPON A LOT OF OUR WORK AND A, A LOT OF YOUR INPUT AND, AND REALLY OUR, OUR INPUT AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, THESE ALONG WITH THE CORRIDOR ARE SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          THEY COVER A LOT OF DIFFERENT BUCKETS IN, AS MR. BROWN SAID, AT LEAST, WELL, I THINK IT'S NINE YEARS THAT CONVERSATION'S BEEN HAD, BUT IT'S US PUTTING IT FORWARD AND TAKING THE BULL BY THE HORNS TO, TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN THERE, UM, BY WORKING WITH THE STATE AND THE COUNTY TO FIND THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDS. 
          SO IT, IT COVERS A LOT OF IMPORTANT ROLES. 
          AND MAYOR, I, I'LL JUST ADD THIS. 
          I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DETERMINE WHAT PRIORITIES TO SET, AND I WROTE DOWN FIVE ELEMENTS TO CONSIDER. 
          ONE IS PUBLIC SAFETY MAKE PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          TWO, DOES IT ENRICH THE COMMUNITY SUCH AS OUR PARKS OR BEACH ACCESS? THREE, DO WE PROTECT INVESTMENTS, UH, BOTH PUBLIC INVESTMENTS AND PRIVATE INVESTMENTS? FOUR, UH, DO WE PROVIDE NECESSARY APPROPRIATE EQUIPMENT SUCH AS FOR FIRE AND RESCUE? FIVE, DO WE HONOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE CULTURE? AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT THESE PRIORITIES, THOSE ARE THE THINGS I'M THINKING ABOUT. 
          AND YOU'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL OF THOSE WITH, WITH THESE ADDITIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, SO HERE'S, HERE'S A FEW OTHER ONES. 
          AND, AND, AND A COUPLE OF 'EM. 
          WHILE NOT THE BIGGEST PRIORITY, A LITTLE LITTLE BANG FOR ITS BUCK, SO TO SPEAK. 
          INDIGO RUN ROUNDABOUT IS ONE OF OUR LAST ROUNDABOUTS THAT WE HAVEN'T ENHANCED. 
          AND AGAIN, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT AND A VISUAL STANDPOINT OF NOT RUNNING THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT WITH SOME, SOME ELEVATION AND SOME ENHANCEMENT, UM, WE'VE PLACED FOR NEXT YEAR SOME FACILITY WORK IN A SMALL CAPITAL PROJECT. 
          IN, IN THAT BUCKET. 
          WE ALSO, UH, INTEND TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. 
          I'LL CALL IT AT THE, AT THE OLD ENCHILADAS PARKING LOT AT THAT SITE. 
          THERE'S SOME CAPACITY ON SITE. 
          WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO 
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IT THIS YEAR, BUT FRANKLY, WE DO NOT HAVE THE FUNDS. 
          UM, IT, IT'S AN, IT'S AN EXPANSION AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S NEEDED. 
          I FORGET WHAT WE CAN NET FROM A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. 
          NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CONSIDERABLE ENOUGH TO TO BE A PRIORITY. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME, IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT. 
          UH, THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS NEW. 
          IT'S A $500,000 SIGNAL MA ARM REPLACEMENT. 
          DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE. 
          SOME NEED SOME WORK AND SOME NEED MAINTENANCE. 
          I FORGET WHAT THE WHOLE AMOUNT IS. 
          IF WE HAD IT ALL, WE WOULD DO IT RIGHT AWAY. 
          DO Y'ALL REMEMBER WHAT THAT TOTAL NUMBER IS? DON? IF JEFF WAS HERE, HE'D, HE'D HAVE IT MEMORIZED. 
          I DON'T HAVE THAT TOTAL NUMBER. 
          WHAT  YEAH. 
          IF I CALL ON YOU ONE TIME, . 
          ALRIGHT, NEVERMIND. 
          SHOULD, I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS HERE. 
          I I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT IN REGARDS TO, UH, UNDER ROADWAY RUN ROADWAY, EASY FOR ME TO SAY ROAD RAGE, UH, PROGRAMS NUMBER 24. 
          SIGNAL SYSTEM MAINTENANCE DOES MENTION TRAFFIC MASTER ARMS AND YOU'VE GOT $1.4 MILLION THERE. 
          SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS DIFFERENT THAN THAT. 
          'CAUSE IT BOTH SAYS MA ARMS AND I'LL SECOND THAT QUESTION. 
          IT IS, IT IS DIFFERENT. 
          IT'S, IT'S A ADDITIONAL MASS ARM REPLACEMENT TO, TO KEEP UP THE PACE ONE'S MAINTENANCE AND ONE'S COMPLETE RE REPLACEMENT. 
          THAT IS MAINTENANCE MYSELF. 
          BUT WE CAN COMBINE THEM. 
          I THINK WHAT THIS TEAM'S TELLING ME THOUGH IS, IS THIS HAS TO BE A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND, AND I THINK WE'RE PAST THE, THE, THE BANDAID AND THE SMALL REPAIRS HERE AND THERE. 
          IT'S, YEAH, IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT TO WHERE THEY'RE PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE AND THEY'RE GONNA START NO, I I GET THAT. 
          I, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT MIGHT BE THE SAME THING BECAUSE I SAW THE SAME WORDS. 
          YOU WANT TO GET 'EM REPLACED BEFORE THEIR FUTURE POTENTIAL TO FALL , IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY? CORRECT. 
          WE'LL CLEAN THAT UP AND, AND AS YOU SEE THIS, AGAIN, THEY'LL BE ALIGNED, UM, WITH A, WITH A NUMBER. 
          THAT'S DOABLE IN MY OPINION. 
          I THINK THERE'S SOME FUNDS WE CAN FIGURE OUT THERE. 
          WE SAY IT'S IMPORTANT YET WE'RE ROLLING MORE FORWARD. 
          SO GIVE GIMME A MOMENT ON THAT MARK. 
          I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ON THE, ON THE PARK PROGRAM, ISLAND REC ASSOCIATION, UM, UNLESS ANYBODY WANTS TO REALLY DIVE IN DEEP ON THOSE ITEMS, THEN MAYBE WE JUST KIND OF MOVE THROUGH THEM. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE CAN DO THAT. 
          WE, WE CAN SCROLL THROUGH A FEW PAGES. 
          WE'RE GETTING TO HERE THE END OF THESE PROJECT LISTS. 
          UM, WITH ME TRYING TO DO TWO SCREENS. 
          YEAH, THERE'S ISLAND REC GIVE A SUBTOTAL AT ISLAND REC. 
          WE'LL JUST FAST FORWARD TO THAT. 
          I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE ISLAND REC IS, THEY DO A GREAT JOB AND THEY'RE IN INVESTING IN THE ASSETS AND I, I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS WONDERING WHAT THAT DOLLAR'S GONNA BE. 
          BUT I'M, I WILL, I WILL SAY THAT I'M ALWAYS APPRECIATIVE THAT THEY ARE INVESTING IN THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE INVESTED IN. 
          SO I, I LIKE THAT THEY SEEM TO BE THE, THE, THE, THE KEEPER OF THAT. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE IT, LAST YEAR WAS FIVE 11, THIS YEAR IS SEVEN 70. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE NOT TO OUR BEST KNOWLEDGE, NOT ROLLING ANYTHING FORWARD. 
          YOU WILL SEE IN YOUR BUDGET AMENDMENT SOME A SURPRISE, I WOULD SAY AN EMERGENCY FIX TO THE BUILDING THAT WE'VE HELPED BUILD. 
          UM, AND SO STAY TUNED ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND TO THE KUDOS OF ISLAND AND REC ASSOCIATION, THEY, THEY HAVE ALWAYS OPERATED WITH A 10 YEAR, UH, CIP BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AS TO WHEN EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. 
          AND THEN IF, IF THE FUNDING DOESN'T COME THROUGH OR THERE'S A CHALLENGE AND THEY, THEY, THEY SHIFT AMONGST, WE'VE GOTTA JUST WATCH THE, THE BASKETBALL COURT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME SPOTS ON THE FLOOR. 
          UH, I WON'T SAY WHO I PLAYED BASKETBALL AGAINST AND BEAT THE OTHER DAY, BUT, UH, HE'S, HE'S, HOPEFULLY HE'S LISTENING. 
          UM, BUT THE FLOOR IS A LITTLE, A LITTLE DEAD IN A COUPLE SPOTS AND THEY NEED TO MAKE THOSE, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THEY BLAME THE FLOOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WITH THESE NEW PROJECTS, WE'LL JUST FAST FORWARD TO NEW PROJECTS. 
          I, I WILL SAY, AND TO HAVE SOME, SOME GREAT CONFIDENCE. 
          WE ARE AND WE WILL BE READY TO GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH PICKLEBALL COMPLEX ADVANCE THERE. 
          YOU GUYS CAN DO THAT. 
          YES. 
          LEFT HAND, RIGHT HAND. 
          THANK YOU DON. 
          SORRY, I DIDN'T, EVEN THOUGH HE SIT BESIDE ME, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT MR. SORRY. 
          HE WAS TELLING ME I DIDN'T ADVANCE THE SCREEN. 
          MY BOSS TO ADVANCE DISCREETLY HE WAS DISCREETLY TELLING ME I NEED TO ADVANCE THE SCREEN. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING WE'RE GONNA ADVANCE THE PROJECT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WAS HOPING YOU WERE GONNA SAY. 
          IT IS, IT IS A, I HEARD ADVANCE. 
          IT IS A PRIORITY PROJECT. 
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WE WILL, BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, HAVE PERMITTING IN PLACE, UM, ALL OUR WORK IN PLACE. 
          UM, AND FOR A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT VERY EARLY IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL ALSO, UM, MOVE FORWARD IN THAT SAME LINE. 
          ALTHOUGH A LITTLE BIT OF LAG WITH THE, WITH WITH THE SKATE PARK AND PUMP TRACK, WE WILL NOT RIGHT NOW, UM, MAKE THAT ENHANCEMENT TO BRISTOL SPORTS ARENA SIMPLY FROM A A, A FUNDING, UH, FUNDING ALLOCATION. 
          UM, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT THE SKATE PARK, AND WE HEARD IT AND I HEARD FROM YOU, UM, AND, AND WE'RE AT LEAST FOR TODAY'S PURPOSE, ASKING THAT THAT BE A PRIORITY FEEDBACK. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PHASING. 
          WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BIG PARK PROJECTS GOING ON WITH, UH, PATTERSON AND PICKLEBALL AND, AND, UM, I KNOW THESE ARE ALL LOVELY AND WE'D ALL LOVE TO DO THEM. 
          AND SO FOR ME IT'S JUST ABOUT PRIORITIZATION. 
          SO IF WE NEEDED TO MOVE SOME MONEY FROM ONE YEAR TO ANOTHER, IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          SO AS AN EXAMPLE, PUMP TRACK FIRST, SKATE PARK SECOND, AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          UM, THEY'RE ALL PERMITTED TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND, BUT THEY'RE SEPARATE PROJECTS IN OUR EYES, BUT THERE'S ALSO ECONOMIES OF SCALE IF THEY'RE PERMITTED. 
          IS THERE ANY EXPIRATION DATE ON THE PERMITS FOR GETTING SOMETHING DONE? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SKATE PARK WAS PUT AHEAD OF, UM, ANYTHING. 
          AND I HEARD IT A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS AND, AND I SAY THAT UM, BECAUSE WE HAD A GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE HERE WHO, UM, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO THEM. 
          AND, UM, SO IN HONORING THEIR REQUESTS THAT WE GET TO IT, I THINK THAT'S SKATE PARK IS, IS SUPER IMPORTANT. 
          I WILL PROBABLY BRING BOTH TO YOU 'CAUSE THERE'S JUST AS MANY THAT DON'T COME TO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE'VE TALKED TO THAT ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PUMP TRACK. 
          I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO, BUT I DON'T WANNA FORGET THOSE KIDS. 
          NO, THEY'RE VERY SPECIAL. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANT, I I SUPPORT THE TOWN MANAGER BRINGING US BOTH, UM, TO THE POINT THAT HE MADE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT EXCITED ABOUT SKATE PARK BECAUSE THE YOUNG GENTLEMAN SHOWED UP. 
          THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE FOCUSED ON OTHER THINGS BESIDES COMING TO TOWN HALL TO TALK TO US. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE AMENABLE TO YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE PRESSING THEM FORWARD. 
          AND THE PUMP TRACK, I THINK IS ONE OF THOSE. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SEE BOTH OF THEM. 
          AND AS I RECALL, SUMMER OLYMPICS DOES INCLUDE SKATEBOARDING. 
          AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE YOUNG FOLKS BEING, UM, OUR REPRESENTATIVES AT THE APPROPRIATE SUMMER OLYMPICS. 
          SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM, I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT SAY, UH, TO YOUR POINT, MR. BROWN, THAT, YOU KNOW, TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE TAKE THE TIME OUT OF THEIR SCHEDULES TO COME HERE PREPARED AND TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF, IN FRONT OF ANYONE, BUT TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF US AND ASK AND TO PRESENT THEIR CASES FOR THE WHY. 
          UM, I JUST COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE AND ANY EVERYONE HERE IS THAT, UM, THIS TOWN IS INCREDIBLY IMPRESSED. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE LISTEN TO THE YOUTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WHERE THE YOUTH HAVE STOOD UP AND THEY WERE NOT LISTENED TO. 
          AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE ABOVE ON, ABOVE AND BEYOND MARK. 
          YES, SIR. 
          GETTING THERE. 
          UM, AT ISLAND PHASE ONE, WE ARE JUST GETTING WHAT WE'VE STARTED. 
          THIS, THIS, THIS IS A GOOD POINT ON, ON THE OPPOSITE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE DESIGN AND THEN NOT HAVING PROJECT PROJECT FUNDS. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PHASE ONE AS WE KNOW IT IS APPROXIMATELY $20 MILLION TO MAKE THAT STORM WATER PATHWAY, BATHROOM PARKING LOT ENHANCEMENT OUT THERE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THOSE DOLLARS RIGHT NOW. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT, THAT, THAT, WHILE THAT THAT IS A PRIORITY AND, AND I THINK IN THE PAST WAS A HIGHER PRIORITY, UM, WE HAVE, UH, OTHER PRIORITIES THAT HAVE SHIFTED THAT HAVE TAKEN US AND PULLED US AWAY FROM THIS PROJECT. 
          WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO DO UP THERE, I WOULD CALL IT, TO GET ITS SHOVEL READY. 
          UM, BUT NO REAL CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO, LEMME ASK A QUESTION, UH, MR. MANGER, 'CAUSE AND I'M JUMPING AHEAD A LITTLE BIT, UH, 'CAUSE I THINK WE'LL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TALK ABOUT 
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THE FUNDING TOOLKIT. 
          AND YOU HAVE SAID TIFF QUITE A FEW TIMES TODAY. 
          YES. 
          IF, IF, AND I'VE NEVER BEEN THROUGH A TIFF OR AS FOREMAN ONE BEFORE, I'VE BEEN THROUGH A TIFF AFTER IT HAD BEEN CREATED AND UNDERSTANDING HOW TO ALLOCATE FUNDING. 
          SO IF YOU COULD JUST HELP US UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS TO GETTING OUR PARTNERS TO AGREED TO A TIFF, WE HAVE TO HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOWN THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITHIN OUR CIP AS SORT OF A YES. 
          YEAH. 
          HERE, HERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          THIS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A, A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT I WOULD SAY. 
          QUALIFYING TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT PROJECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE POTENTIAL PARTNERS NOT SAYING THAT THEY WILL BE, COULD BE DEFINITELY US AND DEFINITELY BEAUFORT COUNTY AND DEFINITELY BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          THIS COULD BE AN OUTDOOR CLASSROOM, A SPACE FOR CROSS COUNTRY. 
          IT, IT COULD, AND IT WILL IMPROVE STORM WATER FLOW UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM, RIGHT? THE, THE, THE BIGGEST EXPENSE IN TIME WAS FIGURING OUT WHY THOSE DITCHES WERE SO DRY. 
          UM, DITCHES AREN'T DRY AND HEAVY RAINS THERE. 
          SOMETHING WAS FLOWING, UM, IN THE WRONG SPOT THAT WE WERE UN UNDERSTANDING IT, IT, THAT IT SHOULD BE FLOWING TO. 
          SO THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT LAYERS TO THAT TIFF. 
          THIS IS A GREAT TIFF PROJECT, BUT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, AND I APPRECIATE THE THE QUESTION. 
          MAIN STREET HAS TO BE A SAFE ROUTE TO SCHOOL. 
          MID ISLAND HAS TO BE AN OUTDOOR CLASSROOM AND A SPACE FOR CROSS COUNTRY, RIGHT? I HAVE CHILDREN, OUR CROSS COUNTRY MEETS, WE'RE ALL OFF ISLAND FAR AWAY. 
          WHY CAN'T WE RUN AROUND THAT TRACK FIVE TIMES AND CALL IT A CROSS COUNTRY RACE? SO THERE'S SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE THAT I THINK, UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO AT LEAST CAN CONSIDER. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO, THEY, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT AGREE, BUT POINT. 
          YEAH, AND I CONCUR ON THE, UM, USING TIF DOLLARS FOR A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS. 
          I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL AND I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE BENEFITS FOR THE SCHOOL ISLAND TRACK PHASE ONE. 
          OKAY, THERE WE GO. 
          PATTERSON PARK, SOME ROLL FORWARD. 
          UM, WE'RE FIGURING OUT OUR ENCROACHMENT PERMIT OUT THERE THAT IS GOING TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT AND THE INTERSECTION ALIGNMENT THERE. 
          UM, NOT NOTHING NEW EXCEPT IF YOU GO DOWN TO PARK CONTINGENCY, WE INCREASE SOME PARK CONTINGENCY, UH, A A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE ARE FINDING OURSELVES IN SOME TROUBLE, UM, WITH SOME PROJECT OVERAGES OR JUST SOLVING PROBLEMS AS WE'RE CONSTRUCTING FACILITY. 
          UM, FOR TIME SAKE, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT YOU CAN SEE FACILITY, THOSE ARE OUR PRIORITIES, UM, REALLY FROM A BUILDING IMPROVEMENT. 
          IT, IT IS DOWN FROM, FROM LAST YEAR, FIRE HYDRANT EXPANSION, UM, FIRE AND MEDICAL SYSTEMS EQUIPMENT, UM, YOU CAN READ THE, THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA, RIGHT? PRIORITY, PRIORITY PROJECT. 
          UM, REPLACEMENT IS MAJORITY OF REQUESTS OF PPE MET EQUIPMENT AND, AND, AND SO ON SO FORTH. 
          THAT'S A BIG NUMBER WE'VE BEEN KNOWING THAT'S COMING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          UM, IT IT IS TIME. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS SECURITY AND CAMERAS CONNECTIVITY THAT INCLUDES THE WORK, RIGHT? I'M ON ON ITEM 90 NOW. 
          GOOD, THANK YOU. 
          ITEM 90, UH, WE TALKED, UH, THAT'S SOME, THAT'S SOME CAMERAS. 
          I WILL SAY WE HAD A HORRIFIC INCIDENT ON THIS IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY A FEW DAYS AGO. 
          THE INVESTMENT YOU MADE INTO FLOCK CAMERAS, UM, SOLVED THAT WITHIN THE DAY. 
          UM, THE LICENSE PLATE READER CAMERAS SOLVED THAT. 
          AND SO I THINK THIS OUR IMPROVEMENTS AND OUR INVESTMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY, UM, AND, AND AT COLIGNY AND AND OTHER PLACES IS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, AS I'M LOOKING AT THAT SCOPE, I'VE GOTTA TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS PLUG NUMBER IS, THE 1.2 UP FROM ONE 50. 
          AND SO STAY TUNED ON THAT. 
          BUT I DO BELIEVE IT BELONGS A PRIORITY. 
          WE MIGHT HAVE TO FIND SOME DOLLARS IN IN THERE IF WE DON'T HAVE THEM ALL. 
          AND, AND I LIKE TO KEEP THE TREE PLANTING, UH, PROGRAM ALIVE, JUST CONTINUATION OF THAT COASTAL DISCOVERY. 
          UH, THEY DO A GREAT JOB. 
          REX AND TEAM, I WOULD SAY ARE DOING A BETTER JOB YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          AND OUR PROJECT MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE HELPING THEM, UM, MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS. 
          THEY ARE THE TOWN AND THE COMMUNITY'S ASSETS AND IT 
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IS OUR, OUR REAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ASSETS, UH, ARE MAINTAINED WELL AND, AND THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB MANAGING AND MAINTAINING. 
          I THINK WE'RE DOING A BETTER JOB INVESTING. 
          SO BRYSON, YEAH, SORRY, I WAS GOING TO, WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO WAIT TILL MR. ORLANDO FINISHED. 
          UM, UNDER FACILITY EQUIPMENT. 
          USUALLY I DEFER TO STAFF ON THIS TOTALLY, BUT I DO REMEMBER NUMBER 84 TOWN HALL FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          I DO REMEMBER A LOT OF DISCUSSION WE HAD, UH, IT SEEMED LIKE SOMETIME LAST YEAR WHERE THE TOWN COUNCIL WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, THE CONDITION OF THESE FACILITIES HERE. 
          UM, BUT I SEE THAT THAT'S BEING PUT OFF. 
          UM, AND, AND SO I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THAT SOME MORE. 
          IS THERE ANY NEW INFORMATION AS TO WHY IT'S BEING PUT OFF? BECAUSE I THINK WE THOUGHT IT WAS A HIGHER PRIORITY AT THE TIME. 
          THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          WHICH, WHAT, WHICH NUMBER? YEAH, UH, NUMBER 84 TOWN HALL FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS, OUR RECENT INVESTMENT IN FIRE RESCUE, A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT WE NEED TO GET IN THERE. 
          UM, THE INVESTMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE AT, UM, OFFICE PARK. 
          OFFICE PARK, WHAT'S IT CALLED? OFFICE PARK ROAD, WHAT'S IN FOUR OFFICE, FOUR OFFICE WAY, FOUR OFFICE WAY, EXCUSE ME, IT IS GETTING LATE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, I WILL CALL IT THE BEACH OPERATIONS CENTER OR WHATEVER WE CALL IT AT WILD WING CAFE. 
          THOSE ARE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS. 
          UM, WE HAD ALSO TALKED THAT THIS, TO DO THIS BUILDING IS A MAJOR LIFT. 
          AND I WOULD JUST SAY THIS TO YOU ALL, WHILE I WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS TODAY, I'M NOT READY. 
          WE'RE NOT READY. 
          WE HAVE OTHER INVESTMENTS AND OTHER PRIORITIES. 
          UM, WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THIS BUILDING. 
          AND I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY THINK THROUGH THIS IN ABOUT 24 MONTHS WHEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE GEO DEBT MILLAGE ONCE AGAIN, AS WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT LAST TIME. 
          AND SO THAT'S BEEN SHIFTED AS A PRIORITY, IS SOMETHING THAT WE AREN'T PROPOSING AT THIS TIME. 
          I JUST WANNA CHECK WITH MY COLLEAGUES. 
          I KNOW THAT IT WAS A LOT OF ANGST EXPRESSED THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND IT, AND I APPRECIATE, UM, THE CONSIDERATION BY THE TOWN MANAGER AND HIS STAFF ABOUT WHERE TO PUT THIS. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE, THE DOLLARS WON'T BE ATTACHED, BUT MOVING FORWARD IT WILL STAY AS WHATEVER NUMBER IT COMES UP TO BE SO THAT WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT, CORRECT? YEP. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          GETTING THERE. 
          YOU GOT 1 0 2, SEAN? YEAH. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THIS? WE HAVE JONESVILLE, MITCHELLVILLE, FREEDOM PARK, BEACH OPERATIONS, TOWN REFUSE AND RECYCLING. 
          UM, NEW IS THE, I WILL CALL IT THE SOON TO BE OLD MEMORY MATTERS, SOON TO BE GULLAH GEECHEE, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, CDC, UH, OFFICE SPACE AND, AND, AND HEADQUARTERS. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO DO SOME WORK AT FACILITIES BUILDING IN, IN, IN YARD BUILDING AND GROUNDS. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WILL BRING FORWARD A, A, A BUDGET TO YOU, UM, FULLY IN THAT SENSE. 
          AND SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH THAT AT AN OLD SPREADSHEET. 
          SO EXCUSE ME. 
          NO, YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT ONE. 
          I'VE GOT AN OLD ONE WHERE WE FIX THE, THE CELLS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU DON. 
          WELL, REGARDLESS, YOU CAN SEE UP THERE, UM, FACILITIES AND YARD. 
          WHAT'S THAT TOTAL NUMBER? ONE FIVE. 
          ONE FIVE. 
          THAT, THAT NUMBER WILL BE LOWER AS WE PROPOSE A BUDGET TO YOU THIS YEAR. 
          IT WAS ASKED THAT WE CONSIDER AND, AND THEIR SUPPORT, UM, A SMALL TEAM FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES FOLKS THAT CAN IMPROVE STORM WATER CHANNELS AND, AND ASSETS FASTER, QUICKER THAN OUTSOURCING EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME, SOME SPACE AND WE DON'T HAVE IT. 
          AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF OUR FACILITY SPACE IN OUR YARD. 
          THAT'S TRULY WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN ARE WE GONNA HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT PUBLIC FACILITIES TEAM, YOU KNOW, UH, BUILDING, BUILDING OF THE TEAM AND, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THE TIMEFRAME TO GET THAT RETURN FOR THOSE DOLLARS, WHO WE WOULD SPEND UP FRONT TO GET A PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING. 
          I THINK IT'S A, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HIT THE SUMMER AND FALL MONTHS AS WE BUILD THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, RIGHT? SO I'M GONNA GET TOGETHER WITH ALL OF YOU LATE MARCH, EARLY APRIL, AND HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND I WILL PROPOSE THAT, UH, I HAVE, AND AND TO DAVE'S POINT EARLIER, THE BUDGET JUST GOT PROPOSED. 
          I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SEAN AND SEAN'S BEEN WORKING WITH DEREK FOR SOME TIME. 
          THEY, THEY'VE PROPOSED AND FULL DISCLOSURE MORE FOLKS THAN I CAN SUPPORT AT THIS TIME, BOTH STRUCTURALLY AS WELL AS 
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FINANCIALLY. 
          AND, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION YET. 
          MS. DONNER? YES. 
          THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK. 
          UH, BECAUSE WE NOT ONLY HAVE THE FACILITIES, WE HAVE EQUIPMENT IN HERE AS WELL. 
          WE'VE GOT INCREASE IN EMPLOYEES AND, UH, DAVE DID SUCH A NICE JOB WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PIECE, LAYING OUT ALL THE EXPENSES AND MAKING A BUSINESS CASE FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT IS TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT WHILE WE'RE FLYING THE AIRPLANE OVER THE OCEAN. 
          UM, SO I HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON HOW I BRING THAT FORWARD TO YOU. 
          AND, AND WHERE, WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO YOU IN JANUARY AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT, AS AN, AS AN ASIDE, AND NOT AS PART OF THIS MASSIVE BUDGET WITH ALL THESE MOVING PARTS. 
          I, I JUST NEED TO GET THROUGH IT. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'VE REALLY GOTTA TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS A CORE SERVICE THAT IS BECOMING MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE RELYING UPON OUTSIDE SERVICES TO DO THAT. 
          UM, SO WE WANNA MAKE CERTAIN THAT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT CREATING, YOU KNOW, THE CREEP SO TO SPEAK, MAKING IT BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT A, A SMALL ORGANIZATION THAT'S TAKING CARE OF, OF THE, THE, THE STORM DRAINAGE AND DRAINAGE SYSTEMS THAT MAINTAIN A, A BETTER, UH, COST FLOW. 
          THE STARTUP COST IS MORE THAN WE CAN WITH, WITH EASE FIGURE OUT RIGHT THIS SECOND. 
          AND SO WE, WE HAVE TO, AND I HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH TIME, UH, OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT MAKING EXCUSES, I JUST HAVE NOT HAD ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE THOSE FINAL DECISIONS IN THE BUDGET YET. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S MY NEXT 30 DAYS. 
          PERFECT. 
          MS. BECKER. 
          UM, AND ALONG WITH ALL OF THE OTHER GREAT CONVERSATIONS SURROUNDING THIS, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE, UM, AND HOW EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES ON THE ISLAND, UM, GET TO BE, GET TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A PUBLIC WORKS IS, AS WE KNOW, THE COUNTY, THE STATE, OTHERS OWN OUR ROADS AND, AND DITCHES, ET CETERA. 
          AND SO WE HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT NEVER GET TO, UM, BE INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE STORMWATER DISCUSSIONS. 
          AND I THINK, AS I'VE SAID, PROBABLY A HUNDRED TIMES, IT IS, IT SHOULD BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION NOW WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING A PUBLIC WORK DEPARTMENT, UM, WHO, WHO'S GONNA BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM THAT? IS IT EVERY RESIDENT ON THIS ISLAND OR IS IT JUST SOME, AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ALL BROKEN DOWN BY HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DOLLARS AND THAT EFFORT, UM, IS FAIRLY DISTRIBUTED. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD TRY TO OWN OUR ROADS. 
          UM, WE SHOULD ASK IF WE CAN HAVE THEM ASK WHAT CONDITION THEY'RE IN AND ASK WHAT DOLLARS CAN FOLLOW THEM AND, UH, MAKE THE ASSESSMENT OF, OF WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SMART. 
          ALL OF THEM OR SOME OF THEM. 
          BUT CERTAINLY, UM, EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF GOOD STORMWATER. 
          AND WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS, CERTAINLY THOSE IN WARD FOUR, THAT FLOOD ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          THAT STORMWATER PROGRAM IS A, A BIG, BIG CONVERSATION WITH OUR COUNTY PARTNER TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THE FUNDING WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD GET THAT FUNDING TO HELP SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM. 
          100%. 
          I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. 
          IT'S A, IT'S AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH AND I KNOW OUR TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION. 
          I'LL ANSWER IT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UM, IF IF WE HIRED FOUR PEOPLE AND BOBCAT AND FIXED OUR STORM WATER DRAINAGE, IT WOULD APPLY, RIGHT? WE WOULD FIX THE SAME, THE THE SAME LEVEL OF ASSET MANAGEMENT WE WOULD BE FOCUSED ON ON DAY ONE IN THAT PROGRAM. 
          LET'S CALL IT JULY ONE, IF YOU APPROVE THAT IN THE BUDGET AS WE ARE TODAY, RIGHT? SO IT, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A, A DIFFERENT SCALE. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO SCALE INTO THAT. 
          I THINK THAT IF WE HIRED THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE AS PART OF FACILITIES THAT RAN THE BOBCAT, RATHER THAN CALLED THE BOBCAT AND FIXED THE PIPE, RATHER THAN CALLED SOMEONE TO FIX THE PIPE COST OVER TIME, SPEED TO SOLUTION OVER TIME AND SCALED OVER TIME. 
          BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT WHAT I AM BATTLING WITH IS THE EXPENDITURES ARE SCALING. 
          WE JUST, WE JUST CAN'T CONTROL THEM AS WELL. 
          SO ON DAY ONE, WE WOULD HAVE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE ON DAY 712, I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER AT IT AND UNDERSTAND OUR, OUR COST A LOT BETTER. 
          AND SO THE SIMPLE WAY TO DO THIS IS HIRE THREE PEOPLE IN THE BUDGET, FOUR PEOPLE IN THE BUDGET, SOMEONE THAT KNOWS THAT WORK, NOT SOMEONE THAT JUST OVERSEES 
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THAT WORK AND, AND GET ON WITH BUSINESS. 
          I'VE BEEN IN IT BEFORE AND YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU'VE GOTTA GROW IT. 
          YOU CAN'T JUST GO FROM ZERO TO A HUNDRED. 
          IF, IF, FIRST OF ALL, I WAS GONNA SAY, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR LOOKING AT MOVING THIS, UH, FORWARD ON THE CALENDAR. 
          I I THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD PLAN. 
          I, I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE WOULD INCLUDE THIS IN THE, IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROCESS AS ON JUNE 30. 
          UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, THE KIND OF COST ANALYSIS YOU WERE JUST DESCRIBING IS WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR. 
          AND THAT IS, UH, TO COMPARE IT TO, UH, DO WE DO IT IN ALL, PARDON ME? OR DO WE CONTINUE TO CONTRACT IT? BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA TO MAKE THAT COMPARISON. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, THIRDLY, THE SOURCE OF FUNDING. 
          WOULD, WOULD THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM ALL COME FROM STORMWATER FEES OR WOULD SOME OF IT COME FROM DIFFERENT BUCKETS AS PART OF THE COST ANALYSIS? YEAH, WITH, WITH ALL RESPECT THAT I THINK THAT'S A, MY JOB. 
          I, I'VE DONE A COST ANALYSIS. 
          IT'S THE SAME SOURCES AND USES THAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE AS JUST A MATTER OF, AND FROM YOUR POLICY STANDPOINT, IT'S BUDGET AND FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT WOULD BE TO ADD THAT TYPE OF PROGRAM IN HOUSE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S EQUIPMENT PURCHASE OVER TIME, RIGHT? SO WE'VE WE'VE DONE THAT. 
          WE HAVE THAT, WHICH IS WHY I'VE STARTED TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW THE CLIENT QUESTIONS YOU'LL ASK, AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE AT THE FIRST READING OF BUDGET OR THE TWO BY TWOS THREE WEEKS BEFORE BUDGET. 
          UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ALMOST THINK IF YOU HAVE THIS MANY QUESTIONS AND, AND WANNA KNOW THESE TYPES OF ANSWERS AT THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL, THIS CANNOT BE DONE DURING THE BUDGET, EVEN THOUGH I'D LIKE TO  NO, THAT'S OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. 
          I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA, YEAH, I'M, I'M GONNA TRY TO HELP MR. DECIMAL OUT IN HIS ABSENCE . 
          UM, AND HE, WHAT HE, HE HAS, UH, HE HAS BEEN BEATING HIS DRUM, UM, A LOT. 
          AND IF MR. ORLANDO'S SAYING THAT HE WANTS TO BRING IN AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT IN JANUARY, UM, I TRUST THAT THAT'S GOOD TIMING. 
          UM, AND I'M NOT AS INTERESTED IN, ALTHOUGH IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE IT, THE BUSINESS CASE, OKAY? I'M NOT AS IN, UM, INTERESTED IN THAT AS I AM, WHAT THE TOWN CURRENTLY IS IN POSSESSION OF NOW HAVE TO CONTRACT OUT. 
          I THINK UNDERSTANDING THAT WILL HELP US AS WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION AS TO WHERE WE SCALE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND AGAIN TO, TO SOMETHING THAT, UM, MR. DECIMAL WOULD PROBABLY SAY IF HE WAS HERE, IT'S GONNA COST US MORE THE MORE WE WAIT BECAUSE WE FALL FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND AS FAR AS THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND WHATNOT. 
          SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING THAT OUT AND, AND, AND HE AND HE SAID, AND, AND, AND WAY, THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT, THE, THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, IT'S A, IT'S A SERVICE LEVEL AS MUCH AS IT'S A COST ANALYSIS, WE CAN'T CONTROL THOSE COSTS THE WAY WE WANT TO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, WHAT NUMBER ARE WE ON UP THERE, SEAN OWEN? SO, FOR TIME'S SAKE, YOU'VE HAD THIS PACKET. 
          THESE ARE THE STORM WATER PROJECTS. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO FAST FORWARD THROUGH THEM. 
          WE HAVE ENOUGH IN OUR FUND BALANCE AND NOT GOING BELOW THE THRESHOLD OF OUR FUND BALANCE RESERVE TO TAKE CARE OF FISCAL YEAR 27. 
          THIS IS OUR LAST YEAR. 
          I'LL BE ABLE TO SAY THAT AT, AT THIS PACE AND AT THIS APPETITE I'M GONNA THINK ABOUT FOR MID-YEAR AS WE START THINKING ABOUT, AND I INTEND TO TALK WITH YOU ALL AND, AND TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT AT FINANCE COMMITTEE ABOUT WHAT A BORROW FOR STORM WATER WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT IT COULD PAY FOR IN THAT FIVE YEAR LOOK. 
          I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STATE WHY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE LAST YEAR WE'D BE ABLE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ACCRUING ACCRUING FUNDS AND HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT NEED TO BE PROVIDED TO FIX THE, THE, THE SYSTEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          AND THERE'S SUCH NEED. 
          I'M GLAD WE'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING OUR SPEND IN REGARDS TO SUPPORTING ALL OF THE IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST. 
          GREAT. 
          AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THE TEAM. 
          THEY, THEY HAVE FIGURED OUT, AND I GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT TO SEAN GIEN AS, AS THE LEADER HERE WHO I LEAN ON, UM, TO HELP HIS TEAM START THRIVING AS WE INVEST IN THE STORM WATER. 
          SO, BIG DIFFERENCE WITH YOU HERE, SEAN. 
          THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. 
          ALRIGHT, WHERE ARE WE? GO THROUGH STORM WATER AND GET THROUGH IT. 
          WE ARE FLEET, UM, YOU'LL SEE UP HERE, UH, A LADDER, ANOTHER LADDER TRUCK REPLACEMENT. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THROUGH SOME YEARS AND THAT WOULD BE A LEASE, 
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BUT WE HAVE TO SHOW THE, THE COST ON YEAR ONE. 
          ELISE. 
          CORRECT? DAVEY, DID WE JUST GET SOME DELIVERIES? GOT ONE, ONE LAST WEEK AND ONE, YES. 
          THIS WAS SOONER. 
          THIS, THIS GOT HERE SOONER THAN WE THOUGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          53 LAND. 
          NO SOFT COSTS IN LAND. 
          MORE OF THE SAME. 
          WHAT A TREMENDOUS YEAR WE'VE HAD INVESTING IN LAND THE LAST YEAR. 
          SO, UM, NEXT FUNDINGS TOOLKIT. 
          TAG THEM IN, RIGHT? 20 MINUTES. 
          , YOU PROMISED 45 AND, UM, NO, NO. 
          SO MAYOR, CAN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? MAYBE SET THE TABLE. 
          SO OF THIS, I'M LOOKING AT THE TOTAL NEW PROJECTS, 49 ALMO ALMOST $50 MILLION. 
          BUT OF THAT 50 MILLION AS I UNDERSTAND ABOUT TEN FIVE COMES FROM DEDICATED ENTERPRISE FUNDS. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR 40 MILLION. 
          DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND OF THAT 40 MILLION, UM, I, I'M LOOKING AT, GOSH, PAGE NUMBER, I THINK IT WAS 32. 
          IN, IN THIS HANDOUT, WHAT DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE? UM, SO I'M GOING BACK MR. BIRD TIER SHEET NUMBER 32, UM, FUNDING SOURCES. 
          SO WE TAKE OUT STORMWATER AND BEACH PRESERVATION, UM, AS THOSE DEDICATED FUNDS. 
          SO OF THOSE REAL ESTATE TRANSFER, GEO BOND DISCRETIONARY, OTHER, I THINK WE'RE TAKING OUT OTHER AS WELL. 
          I'M, I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHERE CAN WE LOOK FOR, UM, WHAT DID I SAY, $40 MILLION OF WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE MS. BRYSON TRYING TO SIMPLIFY IT, BUT I, I GUESS I'M LOOKING AT THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THERE'S SOME PRETTY HEFTY PROJECTS IN HERE THAT WE DON'T HAVE DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH IE THE CORRIDOR PROJECT THERE WITH MASTER PLANNING. 
          SO I, I, I SORT OF FEEL LIKE THE CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN JUST THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WE CAN GIVE SOME DIRECTION AS FAR AS, IS MR ORLANDO GONNA START SPENDING TIME ON TIFF? I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO GET TO SOME OF THIS STUFF IN SOME OF THE AREAS, THEN THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAN US LOOKING AT OUR DEBT MILLAGE RATE IN A YEAR FROM NOW, RIGHT? SO I I I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN, THAN JUST THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO MAYBE THERE, MAYBE THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE CATEGORIES THEN. 
          ONE IS WHERE DO WE GET MONEY FOR THE PROJECTS? WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ABOUT 40 MILLION. 
          AND THEN WHERE DO WE GET MONEY FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NOW? AND THEN THE THIRD BUCKET IS WHAT DO WE PUT ON THE LIST IN CASE THE COUNTY'S, UM, SALES TAX REFERENDUM PASSES IN THE FALL? SO THREE BUCKETS TO THINK ABOUT IN FUNDING. 
          YES. 
          I I JUST WANTED TO SET THE TABLE FOR, WE JUST LEFT A PAGE WHERE I NEED TO FIND 40 MILLION AND WHERE DO I FIND THAT? OKAY, GOTCHA. 
          MAY I, AND PART OF THAT CONVERSATION SHOULD NOT BE LOST THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE DOCUMENT, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE DISCUSSED IT HERE TODAY, DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH THE MALL. 
          AND WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR, YOU KNOW, GROCERY SHOPPING CART ANALOGY AGAIN, WHERE WE STARTED AND WHERE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION EARLIER ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF TODAY. 
          I NOT WANT IT TO BE SUGGESTED AND ACCEPTED HERE TODAY THAT JUST BECAUSE THOSE ARE ON THE LIST AND THAT'S THE TOTAL, THAT THOSE ARE THE DOLLARS WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PUTTING BACK ON THE SHELF. 
          IT JUST DOES, OR SCALING BACK, UM, IN THE PROCESS OF THIS CONVERSATION. 
          UH, I CONCUR. 
          AND THEN ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVED, UH, TO $121 MILLION IN OUR, UH, FUND, YOU KNOW, HOW WILL THE RATING AGENCIES FEEL ABOUT THIS SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN OUR FUND BALANCE? YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ON, WELL NOT THE AGENCIES, BUT OUR ADVISORS OF USE OF FUND BALANCES APPROPRIATE. 
          I WOULD SAY SO, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I I DIDN'T GO TO A DOLLAR AMOUNT FLOOR, IF YOU WILL, BUT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THAT FOR INVESTMENTS, UM, WOULD NOT, WOULD NOT CAUSE US ANY RATING. 
          NOT THERE. 
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YEAH. 
          TO MS. TURNER'S POINT, I THINK THE, THE NUMBER THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE SLIDE, UM, WAS SET ASIDE. 
          THAT IS POLICY DRIVEN FOR OUR FUND BALANCES THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT 120 THAT YOU ARE PROJECTING. 
          AM I CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I THINK DISPLAYING THAT NUMBER IS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? AS WE ARE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT REALLY HELPS WITH THE BOND RATINGS, IF I'M CORRECT. 
          RIGHT? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. 
          BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WE GOT BIGGER, UH, BETTER BOND RATINGS IS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAD. 
          SO LET'S, RICK WELL THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE INTO THIS CONVERSATION 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE IN ESSENCE TALKING ABOUT IS CASH MANAGEMENT OR THE USE OF FUND BALANCE OF, OR PAYGO OR PAY AS YOU GO METHODOLOGIES, UH, OBLIGATION, GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT. 
          AND, UH, GRANTS ARE, ARE THE THREE THINGS THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY HAVING AVAILABLE TO YOU, UH, THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE. 
          SO THAT'S IN, THAT'S IN PLAY RIGHT NOW. 
          AND YOU ALL HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. 
          AND, AND TO REITERATE SOME OF THE THINGS MARK SAID EARLIER, YOUR CONVERSATION IS VERY HELPFUL TO DAWN AND I KNOW 'CAUSE WE'RE TAKING IN A LOT OF INPUT AS WE HONE THIS CIP PLAN. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          NOW, WHAT IN THE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE? THE BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERENDUM IS REALLY GONNA BE A, A BIG DECIDER ON SOME OF THESE UNFUNDED PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE, LIKE THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY MASTER PLAN, UH, PROJECTS AND HOW THAT ROLLS INTO OUR PLAN TAX INCREMENT FINANCING. 
          WE'RE GONNA DIG INTO THAT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. 
          UH, GRANTS, UH, THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA EARMARKS, THAT'S GOING TO THE, THE STATE AND SAYING, HEY, WE NEED, YOU GUYS NEED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE STATE ARE USING THIS FACILITY, UH, FEDERAL EARMARK EARMARKS, UM, THEY DON'T LIKE TO USE THAT WORD EARMARK, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY WENT AWAY BACK WAY BACK WHEN. 
          THEY'RE NOW BACK IN A DIFFERENT FORM. 
          MANY INVESTORS, THEY'RE HERE, RIGHT? BUT IT'S, IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          UH, STORM WATER USE UTILITY FEE BOND, UH, AS MARK HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, FUTURE GEO DEBT, UH, OR THE D THE THE DO DEBT MILLAGE THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU. 
          PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS JUST LIKE YOU HAVE WITH, WITH THE HOUSING, UH, DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT THAT WE JUST HAD THE GROUNDBREAKING ON AND, AND, UH, NEW GEO DEBT, UH, CAPABILITIES THAT YOU HAVE. 
          WE'RE NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANY OF THESE THINGS. 
          WE'RE JUST SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND IT HELPS YOU GET OVER WHAT YOU KNOW, THE LUMPINESS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS. 
          'CAUSE THEY'LL COME ALONG IN TIME AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO AFFIRM, ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'S DROPPED IN YOUR LAP, BUT YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DEAL WITH, UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY SALES TAX. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, GONE THROUGH OUR, OUR PROJECT LIST ABOUT WHAT COULD FIT THE CRITERIA FOR THE, UH, THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SALES TAX, UH, TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX. 
          THEY JUST SENT OUT A SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          AND I DON'T, DO YOU HAVE THE, UH, THREE CRITERIA IN FRONT OF YOU? I, I, I DO NOT. 
          YES, MAYOR COUNSEL. 
          UM, TODAY'S THE 24TH OF FEBRUARY, AND I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM JARED DATED A FEW, FEW DAYS AGO FRIDAY, WHERE HE HAS WRITTEN TO US, AND AS YOU KNOW, IT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR. 
          THEY ARE BRANCHING OUT ACROSS THE, THE REGION AND HAVING PLANNED MEETING DATES AT SPECIFIC LOCATIONS. 
          OUR MEETING DATE HERE IS MARCH 11TH, HERE IN THE TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 
          UM, AND AT THAT TIME, THEY HAVE ASKED TO PRESENT THE PROJECTS, RIGHT? AND THEY SAY TO SHARE PROJECT REQUESTS WITH AS MUCH DETAIL AS WE HAVE AVAILABLE, LOCATION LIMITS, PURPOSE, NEED AND SUPPORTING INFO AND ANY PRIOR ESTIMATES OR CONCEPTS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET INTO SOME OF THAT WORK WE'RE DOING. 
          THE COUNTY ALSO HAS TWO ON-CALL ENGINEERING CONSULTING FIRMS THAT CAN ASSIST US WITH SCOPING AND GIVING US SOME COST ESTIMATES. 
          SO THE GOAL TODAY WOULD BE TO JUST HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK ON, ON THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED UP THERE. 
          UM, AND THOSE PROJECT CRITERIA, THEY, WE WERE ASKED TO DEVELOP A LIST WITH THREE PROJECT CATEGORIES. 
          DOESN'T HAVE TO MEET ALL THREE. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN ALL THREE OR COULD BE IN ONE, BUT THEY SAY WIDENING PROJECTS. 
          I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S A SYSTEM ENHANCEMENT IS WHAT THAT THAT MEANS TO US. 
          SAFETY AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND RESURFACING AND DIRT ROAD PAVING PROJECTS. 
          SO THEY WOULD LIKE A PROJECT LIST PRESENTED TO THEM. 
          WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO YOU TODAY IS THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS LIST, UM, GIVE IT YOUR 
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BLESSING AND SOME DIRECTION, AND THAT ON MARCH 10TH AT THE COUNCIL DAY, THAT I BRING TO YOU A RESOLUTION TO CLARIFY YOUR COLLECTIVE PROJECT, UM, SELECTIONS, RIGHT? NOT THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT THE REFERENDUM, BUT THAT IF THE REFEREND PASSES, THESE WOULD BE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD WANT AT LEAST CONSIDERED. 
          UM, AND THEN MARCH, THAT'S MARCH 10TH, AND THE VERY NEXT DAY WE COULD CONFIDENTLY PRESENT THAT RESOLUTION TO BEAUFORT COUNTY IN THIS VERY ROOM. 
          SO FROM A LOGISTICS STANDPOINT, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THOSE PREPARED UP THERE THAT WAY. 
          SO, COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD ASK FOR IS, UM, THAT IF THE SALES TAX REP REFERENDUM PASSES AND THERE ARE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED FOR HILTON HEAD THAT THAT MONEY BE ESCROWED AND SEPARATED AND GIVEN TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD FOR PRIORITIZATION AND INITIATION OF THE WORK. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST BEEFS OF THE LAST WAS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WORK WAS NOT COMPLETED AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE DOLLARS. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, ISSUE BE OVERCOME THROUGH STRUCTURING IT A A DIFFERENT WAY AND, AND BEING, UH, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM, THE DOLLARS MOVED OVER TO TOWN OF HILTON HEAD AND THERE'D PROBABLY BE SOME PROCEDURES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE, ET CETERA. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD, UH, ADDRESS PEOPLE'S CONCERNS. 
          UH, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHEN WE HAVE MONEY, WE SPEND MONEY, RIGHT? , SO ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          WE, AND I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE ADD THAT AS AWARE AS A RECITAL AND A RESOLUTION THAT YOU, YOU WOULD CONSIDER WITH YOUR PROJECT LIST. 
          SO BEAUFORT COUNTY'S CLEAR TO TO THAT POINT, UM, THROUGH, SO LOCO AND THE OTHER MAYORS, THEY'VE ALL HAD THE SAME COMMENTS FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. 
          SO THAT HAS BEEN A, A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION ON, UM, PROTECTING THE TRUST, SO TO SPEAK. 
          SO, I, I QUESTION YES, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I AGREE WITH MS. TANNER AND IT OUGHT TO BE A PART OF OUR RESOLUTION IN OUR LIST AND, AND UNDER THE CONDITIONS, UM, NOT JUST IN THE WHEREASES, BUT IN THE CONDITIONS, LIKE ER WELL, I THINK THAT IS A, UM, A GOOD, UH, GUARDRAIL TO TRY TO PUT IN PLACE. 
          UM, I WANT THIS RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER WOULD MOVE FORWARD TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR IN THE WAY IT'S WORDED SO THAT IT LEAVES ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THAT, UM, WE ARE ONLY PRESENTING POTENTIAL PROJECTS AND ARE NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM ENDORSING OR EDUCATING OR INFORMING OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, AND, AND THE WORDING SHOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC AND VERY CLEAR WITH REGARD TO THAT. 
          BUT THE GUARDRAILS, WELL, I I LIKE THE LOCKBOX IDEA THAT MELINDA, YOU, YOU'VE COME UP WITH, UM, I LIKE IT IN THE CONDITIONS, UH, PATSY THAT YOU'VE STATED, BUT I I I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO FURTHER. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO, THEY HAVEN'T TOLD US HOW LONG IT WOULD BE FOR HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WOULD INTEND TO RAISE, HOW MUCH MONEY TYPICALLY COMES OUT OF HILTON HEAD. 
          I THINK MAYOR, YOU SAID THE OTHER DAY AT 68% OF THE DOLLARS RAISED, UM, LAST TIME CAME FROM HILTON. 
          HU UM, I WANNA KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO HILTON HU AND UM, AND IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT'S THE, SO THAT PERCENTAGE BACK TO HILTON HU WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW. 
          UM, I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE PUSHBACK, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A ONE FOR ONE, BUT WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE EXPECT TO GET BACK FROM HILTON? HU? UM, AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE, AND, AND I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US CATEGORIES, UM, SYSTEM ENHANCEMENT AS I GUESS WE'VE RE RETITLED IT. 
          I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY MISTAKE IN TERMS OF WHATEVER THEIR DEFINITION WAS WITH THEIR WORDING VERSUS WHAT OUR DEFINITION IS FOR SYSTEM ENHANCEMENT AND THAT IT'S JUST NOT ONE IN THE SAME BUT BETTER WORDS. 
          UM, ROAD UR SING. 
          AND I THINK, MARK, YOU SAID INTERSECTION WORK? YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GUARDRAILS HERE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, UM, FOR HILTON HOOD AND I BELIEVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, UM, AS THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT WHAT THEIR OWN DECISIONS WILL BE, UM, THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UTTERLY CLEAR THAT THESE ARE THE PROJECTS WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN AT A PARTICULAR RATIO BACK TO 
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US NEEDS TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR. 
          AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT ENDORSING ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO THEIR REFERENDUM NEEDS TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR. 
          ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T HAVE TO DO. 
          I KNOW YOU DON'T, I'M JUST MAKING A REALLY BROAD STATEMENT BECAUSE BEFORE I WOULD EVER AGREE TO THIS OR, OR HELP ANYONE ELSE THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, UM, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE IN THAT DOCUMENT. 
          THIS IS OUR PROPOSED PROJECT LIST. 
          DO YOU AGREE? THAT WAS YEAH. 
          YES. 
          UH, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE. 
          UM, AND I AGREE WITH, AS YOU PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSED RESOLUTION FOR US THAT YOU INCLUDE MS. TANNER'S LOCKBOX GUARDRAILS OR WHATEVER, JUST WEIGHING IN ON THAT. 
          OKAY? UM, I, I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS HERE IN THIS PART OF IT, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD SETS IN A DIFFERENT POSITION AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS REFERENDUM THAN LAST BECAUSE WE'VE IDENTIFIED THESE AS PRIORITIES. 
          WE'VE EVEN DONE SOME COST ESTIMATES OURSELF. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE WORKING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE RISK IN THIS, OKAY? BECAUSE IF IT FAILS, THEN THE COUNTY'S LEFT WITH OPTION TO BOND TO GET STUFF DONE, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME ADJUSTMENT IN MILLAGE RATES TO DO SO. 
          OKAY? AND IN THAT CASE, I'M FEARFUL THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET LEFT HOLDING THE BAG AGAIN BECAUSE IF THEY MAKE A BOND, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE GONNA SPEND THAT MONEY ON HILTON HEAD, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT US TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WE ARE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS, OKAY? AND THE OTHER THING IS, I, I WOULD ASK IF COUNSEL IS OKAY WITH MR. ORLANDO HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH OUR APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVE TO THE COMMITTEE ABOUT THIS PROJECT LIST AHEAD OF TIME, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY TALKING AMONGST EACH OTHER AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT HE IS WELL PREPARED WITH WHAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS EXPECTATIONS ARE CONCERNED, RIGHT? ALL GREAT POINTS. 
          AND IT, AND IT REALLY ALIGNS WITH WHAT MS. BECKER IS SAYING BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT IS BEING POINTED OUT? THAT'S WHY I SAY I, I WISH I HAD THAT, THAT CONFIRMATION FROM THEM THAT THEY, THAT AGREED TO THAT. 
          BUT THAT, THAT HAS TO BE MR. STANFORD'S FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS AS A REMINDER. 
          BECAUSE AS WE PUT THOSE PROJECTS ON THIS TABLE AS A PRIORITY OR A PROPOSED PRIORITY, UM, I THINK, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF THAT, ALL OF THOSE GOOD QUESTIONS AREN'T JUST AT THE WAYSIDE. 
          AND THAT OUR LIST IS JUST A LIST, RIGHT? SO KEEP IT SIMPLE, BUT THAT'S IN A BIG PICTURE. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT WE ALL MAKE SURE GLEN AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS AWARE OF HILTON HEAD SUPPORT ISLANDS. 
          AND I GUESS I WOULD TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER TO THERE ARE, UM, FIVE CATEGORIES, TWO SUBCATEGORIES THERE THAT, UM, THAT WE THINK OF SOME WAY, RIGHT? SO WE PUT ALL OF THOSE OUT, THEY'RE ALL AGREED BEST OF INTENTIONS, UM, THE REFERENDUM PASSES AND THEN OF THE POINTS, THE BULLET POINTS UP THERE, THEY PICK THE ONES THAT AREN'T THE ONES, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, RIGHT? BUT AREN'T THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO GET DONE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN DONE NINE YEARS AGO, RIGHT? AND, AND SO WE'RE STILL OUT THERE SCRAMBLING, TRYING TO FIND 50, $122 MILLION TO, TO FUND. 
          UM, DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S A REAL CONCERN FOR ME. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT UP THERE. 
          MAYBE IT'S TOO MUCH BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          IT GIVES THEM TOO MANY OPTIONS. 
          BUT, UM, JUST ANOTHER THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION. 
          . 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE WITH MS. BECKER THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT ENDORSING NOR SUPPORTING THE REFERENDUM. 
          UM, THAT THIS IS PROVIDING A LIST ONLY. 
          UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, UH, I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT OUR LIST MIGHT OUGHT TO COME FROM OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT WE HAD WORKED ON. 
          AND IT LOOKS AS THOUGH SEVERAL OF THESE ITEMS DO, UH, MAIN STREET CERTAINLY WAS ONE OF 'EM, SEA PINE CIRCLE, UM, AND THEN CHAPLAIN CORRIDOR WAS PART OF THOSE SEGMENTS. 
          AND SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SEGMENTS FROM THAT MAJOR THOROUGHFARE 
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PLAN WE WERE WORKING ON? I SAY WE WERE WORKING ON, 'CAUSE WE NEVER ADOPTED IT, THAT MIGHT OUGHT TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS LIST. 
          AND, AND I GUESS THE STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THAT. 
          SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS TO THEM. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, THE LAST THING, AND I MEANT TO ADD THIS BEFORE THAT, UH, REQUEST IS THAT IN THE RESOLUTION WE OUGHT TO, UH, REQUEST THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECTS GET DONE AFTERWARDS. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S THE THING THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DID AND HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND THEY HAVE NOT YET DONE THAT. 
          AND THAT OUGHT TO BE A CONDITION OF OUR LIST. 
          DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY. 
          UM, I, I, I WOULD ALSO STATE THAT TO MRS. BECKER'S POINT, UM, WE PROVIDE A LIST, BUT IT'S ALSO, IT NEEDS TO BE WORDED AND OR TO BE USED FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR PROJECTS BECAUSE THAT HELPS KEEPS THE PROJECTS ON THE LIST. 
          UM, SO I WOULD JUST THROW THAT IN THERE, HOWEVER THAT WOULD BE WORDED. 
          GREAT FEEDBACK. 
          GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S KEEP GOING, SEAN. 
          SO WE WILL BRING THIS BACK TO YOU IN A RESOLUTION THAT, THAT HOPEFULLY CAPTURES EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID FOR CLARITY ON THE 10TH FOR DISCUSSION AND, AND AND PROPOSAL TO BUFORT COUNTY ON THE 11TH. 
          AND BEFORE THEN I WILL TALK WITH MR. STANFORD OR SEAN WILL, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALIGNED. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING IN REGARDS TO THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING THE DATE THAT IS NOT THAT FAR AWAY, BUT YOU'RE VERY WELL PREPARED FOR IT. 
          AND SO WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN MOVING THIS WORK FORWARD SO THAT WE COULD BE IN A POSITION TO BE READY FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S THE TEAM. 
          I'VE NEVER HAD A BETTER ONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AWESOME. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NOW,  FINANCE, WELL YOU TOLD ME TO LEAVE IT, KEEP IT AT 45 MINUTES, SO I'LL HANG ON. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M JUST, I'M POSING THIS TO COUNCIL, UM, THE TIFF, UH, DISCUSSION. 
          WE SORT OF TIP TIPPED OUR TOING THE WATER ON THIS. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO JUST BE VERY DIRECT WITH MR. ORLANDO. 
          DO WE WANT HIM TO SPEND TIME ON DEVELOPING IT OR NOT? WITHOUT, WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE OVERVIEW, I'M JUST, I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF A TIFF. 
          I KNOW THAT IT TAKES QUITE SOME TIME TO PUT IT TOGETHER, 18 MONTHS OR SO. 
          AND THE SOONER WE GET STARTED, THE SOONER WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE. 
          I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED A FEW, UH, MAJOR PROJECTS, UH, OFF TOP OF MIND, UH, THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE TIFF. 
          AND WE CAN, UH, DURING THIS TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY ANY OTHERS THAT MIGHT BE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I AGREE MS. PRICE. 
          YES, I AGREE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED THE BACK. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE BACKGROUND DATA. 
          UM, AND I WAS GONNA ASK TIMING WISE, I'M GLAD YOU PUT UP THIS BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE WHETHER IT'S 24 TO 30 MONTHS. 
          I, I HEAR MS. HUNTER SAYING 18 MONTHS , UM, . 
          RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          . 
          UM, SO JUST SOME SORT OF TIMEFRAME FOR HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION, UH, IN MOVING FORWARD IS LOOKING AT WHAT PROJECTS WILL BE FUN. 
          HOWEVER, MANY MONTHS AHEAD, UM, WOULD BE COVERED BY TIFF. 
          'CAUSE SOME OF 'EM MIGHT BE DELAYED IF WE RELY UPON TIFF AND IT TAKES X AMOUNT OF MONTHS. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW AND, AND THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND LOOKING AT THE LAST OF THE TIFF MONEY BEFORE, UH, UH, THAT WE, I THINK WE'VE COME TO THE END OF IT NOW. 
          UM, THEN, UM, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT TIFF? BECAUSE SOME MONEY WAS PLANNED FOR THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND THAT WAS NEVER FUNDED. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A, A, A REAR VIEW LOOK TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY, SO THAT WE DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE GOING FORWARD. 
          AND I DON'T MEAN WE NEED TO DO A YEAR'S ANALYSIS OF IT. 
          I MEAN, WE NEED SOME SORT OF AT LEAST, UH, UH, DOWN IN DIRTY ASSESSMENT OF THAT SO THAT WE WON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN. 
          OR SAME PROMISES FOR SURE. 
          PR ANY COMMENTS I SUPPORT TOO. 
          HAVE YOU STARTED YET? , ? I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT AS SOON AS WE CAN. 
          YEAH. 
          I, WHAT I NEED FROM YOU IS, IS, IS WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW, SUPPORTIVE TIFF ALIGNED WITH THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY PROGRAMMED. 
          AND THIS IS THE CRITICAL PATH. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ME, I'VE BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS NOW, UM, JUST CELEBRATED THAT SUNDAY I DID. 
          AND I AM NOT GONNA SIT IN A PUBLIC ROOM AND TELL YOU HOW LONG, BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE CRITICAL PATH IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST YOU ALL CAN MAKE DECISIONS, LET ALONE HOW THE BEAUFORT COUNTY AND BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL 
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DISTRICT. 
          I THINK THAT THE CRITICAL PATH'S VERY IMPORTANT AND THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY OF OURS. 
          MR. GILLEN HAS PUT TOGETHER A BUNCH OF TIFF DISTRICTS, UM, A BLESSING AND, AND APPRECIATIVE THAT HE'S HERE WITH DAVE, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME WORK WITH Y'ALL, WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES TOO. 
          SO LET'S, LET'S KNOW THIS, THIS WILL BE A BIG PART OF OUR NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO YOU. 
          AND SO ALL ALL I WANNA SAY TODAY IS FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU, UM, VERY MUCH. 
          THIS IS GREAT FEEDBACK. 
          UM, YEP. 
          FULL DISCLOSURE, MS. TONER ASKED ME ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR AND I PROBABLY THREW MY HANDS IN THE AIR. 
          I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET ALL THIS DONE? AND IF DAVE WASN'T HERE, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SIT IN HERE TODAY WITH YOU CONFIDENTLY. 
          UM, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO WORK OVER THE NEXT, WELL, FEW DAYS OF FEBRUARY AND A OF FEBRUARY AND ALL OF MARCH TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET, ALL SIX FUNDS, UM, EARLY APRIL, WE'LL COORDINATE. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT I'M TRYING TO GET ALL OF THIS DONE TO, TO FIGURE OUT SCHEDULES BY THE END OF MARCH, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT I'LL HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET BY THEN. 
          BUT WE CAN AT LEAST HAVE SOME, SOME PRELIMINARY FOR FOR SOME OF YOU. 
          AND THEN MOST LIKELY FIRST WEEK OF APRIL WE WILL TALK LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE, RIGHT? FULL DISCLOSURE, ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET THAT I'VE PREPARED TO PROPOSE FOR YOU ALL. 
          IT'S YOUR BUDGET AND I'M HONORED TO PRESENT IT TO YOU. 
          UM, MAY 12TH IS THE FIRST READING OF COUNCIL. 
          I WILL PUT THE BUDGET IN THE PACKET. 
          IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT LIKE I DID LAST YEAR, BUT DIFFERENT THAN YEARS PRIOR. 
          WE WILL PUT THE BUDGET IN THE PACKET, UM, A WEEK AHEAD OF TIME, AND THEN TWO PUBLIC WORKSHOPS IN, IN MAY 14TH AND 19TH. 
          AND THEN A FINAL READING ON JUNE 9TH. 
          BOTH READINGS WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ADVERTISED AS WELL. 
          UM, AND I'VE, WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE ALL THIS OUT IN THE NEXT 70 DAYS. 
          NOW MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ABOUT THE CIP PROJECTS? IS THERE ANY WORK GONNA BE DONE ON THAT? SO YES, WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW. 
          UM, AGAIN, WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, IT WITH THE, UM, LIKE REVENUES MINUS EXPENSES AND OUR FUND BALANCES, ALL OF THAT JUST, AND AGAIN, WE USE UP THE MAJORITY OF OUR, UM, OPPORTUNITY. 
          WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND THE OUT YEARS? SO I JUST, WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? DOES THAT HAPPEN IN ONE-ON-ONES OR TWO BY TWOS? WELL, I'M GONNA LEAN ON MAYOR PERRY TO GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION COLLECTIVE TO COUNCIL TODAY BECAUSE THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          AND I'M HEARING AND AND I DO NOT PROPOSE THAT WE DO THIS ONE-ON-ONE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN, UH, OTHER FOLKS AND, AND ONE'S ONE, ONE PERSON ISN'T EVEN HERE. 
          WE, WE'VE SHOWED YOU, RIGHT? WE'VE SAID TODAY THIS IS A PRIORITY LIST. 
          I I ALREADY KNOW THAT BASED UPON WHAT I'M HEARING AND ALSO WHAT I KNOW TO BE TRUE, I CAN COMPRESS THE EXPENDITURE AND CIP FOR NEXT YEAR 'CAUSE WE WON'T GET TO IT. 
          LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PRIORITY AND A PRELIMINARY BUDGET. 
          I TOOK SOME NOTES. 
          I'M ALSO, UH, GOOD AT UNDERSTANDING WHERE YOU ARE INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY. 
          I KNOW THAT I NEED TO PRESENT A BUDGET TO YOU COMPRESSED TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. 
          YOU ASKED SOME GREAT QUESTIONS. 
          DAVE HAS SHARED THAT WITH YOU THAT THE PRELIMINARY ENDING FUND BALANCE IN 27 IS UP ON THAT SCREEN. 
          DO WE HAVE THE DOLLARS? MS. BRYSON ASKED THAT EARLIER. 
          WHERE WOULD WE FIND IT? IT'S RIGHT THERE, RIGHT? SO I BELIEVE WE'VE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. 
          I BELIEVE I KEEP HEARING THAT. 
          I BELIEVE WE PROVIDED THE ANSWER. 
          I KEEP HEARING THE QUESTION THOUGH. 
          IT'S IT'S RIGHT THERE. 
          AND, AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS VERY TRANSPARENT AND IS VERY DIRECT AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S TOO DIRECT, BUT I, I WANT YOU TO SEE THAT BECAUSE IT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE FUND BALANCE POLICIES YOU HAVE WHAT I WILL PRESENT TO YOU THIS YEAR THOUGH, AND, AND DAVE KNOWS THIS AND I APPRECIATE THAT HE FEELS THE SAME WAY. 
          I WILL PRESENT TO YOU AN INCREASE IN ALMOST ALL OF OUR FUND BALANCES, ALL OF THE RESERVES. 
          WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE INCREASES AND AFFORD SOME PROJECTS. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THE, THE VERY INNOVATIVE ENTREPRENEURIAL TEAM IS GONNA BUILD ALL THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT I HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO PUSH SOME THINGS OUT TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, PUSH THEM OUT, NOT, UH, CANCEL 'EM. 
          I'VE JUST GOTTA FIGURE THIS OUT AFTER DAY. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME COLLECTIVE MAYOR PERRY, IF YOU HAVE SOME COLLECTIVE, WELL, WHAT, WHAT THOUGHT 
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FOR ME? I HELP ME HELP YOU BE APPRECIATIVE. 
          ARE THERE ANY PROJECTS THAT YOU DON'T WANNA SEE MOVE FORWARD AS A PRIORITY IN 27 THAT CAN BE PUSHED OFF IN THE 28 OR FURTHER? I THINK I PROVIDED FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, A A LOT OF IT, UH, FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY AS WELL AS IF WE HAVE MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, DESIGN WHERE WE DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE FUNDING FOR THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT. 
          DOES THAT PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY ? UM, AGREE. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, AT THE TIME IT IS NOW TO OPEN THAT CAN OF WORMS, UM, WILL BE HERE FOR ANOTHER THREE HOURS. 
          I THINK WE HAVE PROVIDED OR TRIED TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY AND HAPPY TO, TO, TO DO IT AGAIN. 
          BUT I, I JUST DON'T THINK NOW'S THE, THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT. 
          AND I AM HAPPY THOUGH TO HEAR UH, MARK, YOU SAY THAT YOU'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD AN INCREASE IN RESERVES. 
          THE REASON WE ARE IN THE POSITION THAT WE ARE IN THIS TOWN IS BECAUSE OF THE LONGSTANDING, UH, POLICY OF, UM, PUTTING THOSE FUNDS IN A RESERVE, UM, AND TO INCREASE IT, UM, CONTINUOUSLY. 
          AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE IN ALMOST EIGHT YEARS TO MAKING SURE THAT WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO MISINTERPRET SEEING THESE NUMBERS, AND THOSE ARE THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE TO USE. 
          THOSE MONIES OUGHT TO BE, UM, CAREFULLY, UM, LOOKED OVER, INCREASE IN RESERVES, MADE TO CONTINUE THE TRADITION THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          THAT PUTS US IN THE GOOD FINANCIAL POSITION THAT WE ENJOY WITH TRIPLE A, UM, RATINGS AND THE REST EMERGENCIES HAPPEN AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THEM. 
          UM, SO I I, I HOPE MAYBE, MAYBE MAY OR MAY OR PEOPLE SHOULD PUT DOWN A LITTLE LIST AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ACHIEVE WHAT IT WAS THAT YOU JUST ASKED US TO DO IT AT THIS TIME, BUT I DON'T WANNA SEE ALL THESE DOLLARS JUST SPENT BECAUSE THE MONEY IS THERE. 
          UM, AND THANK YOU, MARK, FOR SAYING YOU'D BRING BACK THE INCREASE IN RESERVES. 
          WELL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS OUR AND TEAM WILL SIT DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN PLANNED OUT AND GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE GOT A, I'M JUST GONNA USE GENERIC DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATED FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY ONLY GONNA USE 50,000 FOR DESIGN BECAUSE IT'S GONNA COME LATER IN THE YEAR. 
          SO WHAT IS THE, THE TIMEFRAME THAT THINGS COME AROUND? SO I THINK THAT, WE'LL, AS HE SAID, WE'LL SEE IT COMPRESSED, UM, AND MORE IN STEP WITH DAVE'S HELP AND THE FINANCIAL SIDE AND BEING REALISTIC AS TO WHAT CAN ACTUALLY BE ACCOMPLISHED. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE, HAVING HAD A CIP PROGRAM IN PLAY, UM, BUILD, WANTED TO GET IT OPERATIONAL, LIKE THIS TAKES TIME. 
          BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE NOT FAULTING PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, THAT WE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WE NEED TO EARMARK SOME DOLLARS FOR BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE SUPPORT THAT WE ARE GIVING TO STAFF TO GO TO, TO STATE OFFICIALS TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING. 
          SO, MAKES SENSE. 
          AND JUST LOOK AT, I JUST LOOK AT THE ONE EXAMPLE, WHAT THE COUNTY WROTE TO US AND SAID, HEY, WE WANNA KNOW YOUR PROJECT LIST AND WE KNOW YOU WANNA KNOW YOUR OPINION OF PROBABLE COSTS AND YOUR, YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR SCOPE AND YOUR PRICE ESTIMATES BY THE TIME YOU TALK WITH US. 
          SO HERE'S SOME OF THAT WORK. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I TOOK AWAY TODAY. 
          I I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA GO CHASE THOSE DOLLARS AND REALLY LOOK HARD FOR THEM, WE'LL CONTINUE ON SOME OF THAT DESIGN. 
          I HEARD SOME COMMONALITY ON THAT ON THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR DIFFERENT THAN SOME OTHER PROJECTS. 
          AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'VE BEEN READING TODAY. 
          STAY TUNED. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, MA'AM. 
          NO, YOU DIDN'T. 
          I WAS GONNA INTERRUPT YOU. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, WHAT I DIDN'T POINT OUT, UM, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I POINT OUT, IS THAT UP TO $26 MILLION, AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE WORDS UP TO, UM, AND THAT BOND, IT, IT WAS REALLY, I WAS VERY DEFINITIVE IN HOW I WANTED THAT MONEY TO BE USED, WHICH WAS TO, UM, CERTAINLY FIRE AND RESCUE, ET CETERA. 
          BUT, UM, FOR LAND ACQUISITION, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO OUR NUMBER ONE STRATEGY OF MANAGING GROWTH AND UM, IT MAKES ME ANXIOUS TO SEE IT HERE ON THIS LIST. 
          AND SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS IN ANY DETAIL TODAY IS, UM, LAND ACQUISITION AND BUYING DENSITY OTHER THAN THE $250,000, THAT'S KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER IN THERE. 
          AND SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD, IT REMAINS MY VERY STRONG, UM, PRIORITY THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE USED TO BUY AS MUCH LAND, AS MUCH DENSITY AS WE CAN ON THIS ISLAND SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE THE GROWTH OF THIS ISLAND. 
          UM, WE ALL AGREED THAT THAT WAS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IN THE STRATEGIC PLANS. 
          SO, MAY I JUST POINT OF CLARIFICATION? YEAH, AND I, I HEAR 
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YOU, MS. BECKER, LAND ACQUISITION IS PART OF THE CIP, WHICH IS WHY IT'S SHOWN UP HERE. 
          JUST FOR, FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M NOT ADVOCATING TO USE IT FOR PROJECTS DIFFERENT THAN LAND. 
          I JUST, I THINK IT'S, IT'S HEALTHY FOR YOU ALL TO SEE IT AND KNOW THAT IT IS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR CAPITAL PROGRAM. 
          LAND IS A BIG PART OF THAT. 
          THAT IS OUR, THAT IS OUR LARGEST INVESTMENT IN OUR CIP PROGRAM BY FAR. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, I, I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SPENT SOME TIME FOR PERHAPS ON, ON IDENTIFYING, YOU KNOW, LAND AND NOT WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO JUST COME TO US AND ASK US IF WE WANT TO BUY THAT LAND. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, ET CETERA, AND THAT IS SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS WE SIT HERE. 
          UM, IT IS SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. 
          I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE SUBJECT, BUT I'LL PROBABLY SAY IT AGAIN. 
          I I LOOK ALL THE TIME. 
          UH, UH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU SEE SOMETHING YOU LIKE. 
          I'VE, I'VE GOT A FEW THAT I WANNA BRING IN SOONER THAN LATER BEEN TALKING, BRAD. 
          OH YEAH. 
          UM, OH, I GUESS I WANNA REACT TO THAT, THE COMMENT ABOUT THE LAND. 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE AGGRESSIVE IN THAT, BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BUY PEOPLE'S LAND THAT'S NOT FOR SALE. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY OUT LOUD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SECONDLY, I APPRECIATE THIS EXERCISE. 
          I APPRECIATE THE WAY WE'VE LAID OUT THE, UH, THE SITUATION AS TO WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          I GUESS MY CLOSING COMMENT TO MY COLLEAGUES AND TO MR. ORLANDO IS LET'S CONTINUE TO BE NIMBLE. 
          I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO RECOGNIZE THIS BECAUSE, LIKE, TO HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, WE LIKE TO HAVE A PLAN SET OUT, BUT HERE WE ARE SPENDING THE LAST BIT OF TIFF MONEY THAT FOLKS WAY BEFORE US DECIDED TO GET, OKAY, SO LET'S STAY NIMBLE. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A CHARACTERISTIC OF HILTON HEAD THAT HAS HELPED US TO CONTINUE TO BE SUSTAINABLE, HELPED US TO CONTINUE TO BE LEADERS. 
          UH, I THINK THE, THE NIMBLE PIECE IS JUST SO IMPORTANT. 
          RYSON, UM, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, SO TAKING ANYTHING OFF THE LIST, I THINK I HEARD THE TOWN MANAGERS SUGGEST THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, THE SMALL TEAM, UM, THAT MAY BE LOOKING AT AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT. 
          SO WE COULD TAKE OUT THE, UM, UM, THE FIXING UP THE LAND COST AND THE, THE FLEET, UH, PORTIONS OFF OF THE CURRENT LIST AND SET THAT ASIDE FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION OR WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD TAKE OFF AT THIS POINT, IS WHAT I'M GONNA SAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'RE GONNA GO NOW THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND ALSO LISTEN TO BIKE WALK  BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SEE THAT THAT ONE PAGE WE KEEP TURNING BACK TO, BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM ARE DEDICATED LIKE STORMWATER BEACH RESERVATION, HAVE TO GO FOR CERTAIN THINGS. 
          UM, BUT FROM WHICH OF THOSE OTHER FUNDS WOULD WE BE TAKING MONEY TO PAY FOR THE CIP CRAWFORD? A COUPLE OF GENERAL, UH, POINTS. 
          FIRST, I THINK WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE IN THE HILTON HEAD COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE KIND OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECTS OF THE SCOPE THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING. 
          THERE ARE PROBABLY VERY FEW COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST IN SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT CAN DO WHAT WE DO. 
          SO WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT REGARD. 
          THE SECOND POINT IS MANY OF THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS CAN BE LOOKED AT AS INVESTMENTS IN THE FUTURE. 
          WE, UH, RECEIVED A, AN, UH, AN AWARD BY ONE OF THE LEADING TRAVEL MAGAZINES ABOUT BEING THE BEST ISLAND, UH, BEACH COMMUNITY TO RESIDE IN. 
          UM, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SAY THAT INDEFINITELY INTO THE FUTURE. 
          AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED CONSTANTLY TO IMPROVE WHAT WE HAVE HERE ON THIS ISLAND. 
          IF WE DON'T, SOME OTHER COMMUNITY IS GOING TO TO DO IT AND, AND GET AHEAD OF US. 
          SO TO MAINTAIN THAT, THAT TYPE OF REPUTATION INTO THE FUTURE, UM, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO LOOK AT ALL THESE AS INVESTMENTS IN THE FUTURE. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT, I THINK IT'S GREAT. 
          UM, YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA BRING OUT? ADD UP? I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT PUBLIC COMMENT OR, OR WHATEVER, KIM, BUT I, I JUST WANNA SAY TO TOWN COUNCIL, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ADDED STEP. 
          UM, PLEASE CALL ME AND TALK WITH ME. 
          I'M NOT SAYING I DON'T WANT TO TALK DIRECT AND, AND ONE AT ONE AT A TIME. 
          I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY HEALTHY START FOR ME AS I PREPARE CIP AND, AND APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE YOU AND APPRECIATE THE, THE PUBLIC THAT HAS BEEN HERE THIS LONG AS WELL 
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AND, AND TO MY TEAM. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, WELL NOW I'LL 
          [4. Public Comment - Non Agenda Items]
MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          FIRST WE'LL TAKE, UM, THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING TODAY'S WORKSHOP ITEM, UM, UM, AND WE INVITE THOSE SPEAKERS TO, TO ADDRESS NON AGENDA ITEMS. BUT AS A REMINDER, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WILL, WHO IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK AS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND MUNICIPAL CODE TITLE TWO, CHAPTER ONE, SECTION TWO DASH FIVE DASH 70. 
          PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD BEFORE BEGINNING YOUR REMARKS. 
          COMMENTS MUST BE DIRECTED TO COUNSEL AS A WHOLE. 
          THERE WILL BE NO ALLOCATION OR TRANSFER OF SPEAKING TIME TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. 
          WE ASK THAT ALL SPEAKERS REMAIN MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE PRESENT. 
          KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ITEMS? WE DO GIVE, GIVE US JUST A MOMENT. 
          FOR SOME REASON THE TIMER'S NOT SHOWING UP ON THE SCREEN. 
          WE'VE GOT IT ON OUR SCREEN, BUT NOT THAT ONE. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT WORKS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, JIM HALL, JIM LEFT. 
          OKAY. 
          FRANK BABEL DID THAT LAST TIME. 
          WELL, LET'S SEE, CAN YOU EXCUSE ME? I LEFT MY GLASSES. 
          OOH, . 
          OH MY GOD. 
          FIR. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT, UH, STEVE SAID. 
          CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU FOLKS. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS A LOT. 
          YEAH, WHAT STEVE SAID. 
          I ALSO, MY, UH, HEARING AID BROKE TODAY TOO, SO THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. 
          UM, AND, UH, THANKS AGAIN FOR COMING HERE. 
          YOU GUYS DID A GALS DID A GREAT JOB. 
          UM, WHEN I WAS WORKING, UM, IN THE FINANCIAL AREA, WE DID A LOT OF PROJECT WORK. 
          UM, AND WE ALWAYS LOOKED AT THE PROJECT AND SEE WHAT AN IMPACT IT WAS ON THE COMMUNITY OR THE BUSINESS OR WHATEVER. 
          AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE DECISIONS YOUR FOLKS HAVE MADE. 
          AND WE THINK ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING AHEAD. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH A FEW OF THOSE THINGS TO GET KIND OF GET YOU LIKE WHAT THE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THIS BIKING THING? IS IT DOING ANYTHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY? THE FIRST THING IS JOBS. 
          25 YEARS AGO WE HAD LISTENED TO A DOZEN BIKE SHOPS AND A PROMISING PATHWAY SYSTEM. 
          HOTELS DIDN'T RENT BIKES. 
          TODAY THERE ARE ABOUT 35 BIKES, RENTAL COMPANIES AND A DOZEN OR SO HOTELS ARE ALSO IN THE BIKE BUSINESS. 
          THAT'S A LOT OF JOBS AND THAT'S A LOT OF BIKES. 
          THIS PROLIFERATION OF BIKES IS REMARKABLE. 
          ACCORDING TO ESTIMATES FROM THE CHAMBER. 
          PROXIMATE MILLION PEOPLE RIDE BIKES ON OUR ISLAND DURING THEIR VISIT HERE A YEAR. 
          WHILE TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS A COMMON COMPLAINT. 
          THE PATHWAY SYSTEMS HELP ALL ALLEVIATE THIS ISSUE AND HELPS MEET THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS OF COMMUTERS NEEDED KIDS AND, AND, UH, PEOPLE IMAGINE WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE WITHOUT THE BIKES? BIKING HAS SINCE BECOME ONE OF THE TOP AMENITIES ON THE ISLAND. 
          FAMILIES OFTEN RIDE TOGETHER AND RECONNECT 'CAUSE OF PAST EXPERIENCES FOR THOSE WHO CHOSE TO LIVE HERE. 
          CASUAL RECREATION AND EXERCISE BIKING ARE CENTRAL ACTIVITIES. 
          A RECENT SEA VI, SEA PINE SURVEY RATED RATED THE OCEAN AND BIKING TOGETHER IS THE SAME AS THE TOP ATTRACTION IN SEA PINES. 
          THE RBC HERITAGE, 10 YEARS AGO YOU COULDN'T GET INTO THE GATES. 
          I MEAN NO WAY. 
          NO. 
          HOW. 
          WE'RE RECRUITING NOW ENOUGH PEOPLE TO BIKE FOUR OR 5,000 PEOPLE. 
          OUR SPONSOR IS DUKE POWER SAFETY REMAINS OUR TOP PRIORITY. 
          INVESTMENTS IN PATHWAYS AND RELATED FACILITIES HAVE GREATLY ENHANCED SAFETY FOR CYCLISTS DESPITE LAX ENFORCEMENT, LOW COMPLIANCE WITH TRAFFIC LAWS AND A LARGE INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP BIKE. 
          CAR CRASHES REMAIN LOW IN RECENT YEARS. 
          PATHWAY AND ROADWAY BIKE RELATED FATALITIES HAVE ESSENTIALLY DISAPPEARED. 
          DISAPPEARED. 
          THEY USED TO BE ABOUT TWO YEAR, THEY'VE DISAPPEARED. 
          HOWEVER, THE RISE OF BIKE USAGE DROUGHT PATHWAYS, YOUR TIME IS UP. 
          SORRY. 
          AND GAPS IN THE SYSTEM. 
          WEVE MR. BA REPRESEN, PRESENT INVESTMENT NEEDS AND FRANK TIME'S UP. 
          SIR, THIS IS MY GLASSES BREAK. 
          I RESET, I RESET THE CLOCK FOR YOU AT THAT TIME. 
          PARDON ME? I RESET THE CLOCK FOR YOU AT THAT TIME WHEN YOU GOT YOUR GLASSES. 
          OH. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, WELL THANK YOU. 
          WE 
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APPRECIATE YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE WISH YOU THE VERY, VERY BEST OF LUCK. 
          OKAY? DON'T FORGET THE BIKES. 
          THEY DID A LOT FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND THEY WILL CONTINUE. 
          AND THE MR. ABEL AND THE THANK YOU AND THE POAS ALSO. 
          MR. BABEL, SAME THING WE DO. 
          OKAY. 
          SKIP POLAND AS A REMINDER, THIS IS ON THE AGENDA ITEMS. SKIP POLAND, WINDMILL HARBOR, THE TOWN AND CHAMBER ARE PARTNERS IN CRIME. 
          YOU ARE ALL ILLEGAL CHAMBER MEMBERS AND SOME ATTENDED THE CHAMBER KOOL-AID BALL. 
          YOU WERE FUNDED BY OUR TAX MONEY. 
          IF YOU INVESTED $4 MILLION WITH SKIP HOAGLAND AND I REFUSE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ACCOUNTING ON HOW YOUR MONEY WAS SPENT, ALL PROFITS GENERATED AND ALSO VIOLATED OUR CONTRACT ILLEGALLY, CRIMINALLY USED YOUR MONEY, WOULD YOU WRITE ME ANOTHER $4 MILLION CHECK OR WOULD YOU SUE MY BUTT OFF AND HAVE ME ARRESTED? ONLY THREE POSSIBLE REASONS YOU VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO ALLOW THIS CHAMBER FRAUD AND ABUSE TO CONTINUE. 
          EITHER YOU'RE INCOMPETENT, YOU'RE CORRUPT, OR YOU ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE SILENCED AND PUT IN A BOX. 
          I DO NOT BELIEVE ANY OF YOU ARE INCOMPETENT EXCEPTION. 
          ALEX BROWN FINANCE CHAIR FOR GOOD REASON. 
          HE KNOWS AS MUCH ABOUT DO DOGE AUDITS AS I KNOW ABOUT PD SO LONG. 
          PLEASE ADDRESS COUNSEL AS A WHOLE. 
          WE NEED TO PUT CCP, WE NEED TO PUT CPAS ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          ASAP. 
          YOU NEED TO FIX WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. 
          YOU HAVE PUN COME. 
          A DISGRACE AND A PUBLIC EMBARRASSMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY, YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO TRUSTED YOU. 
          IT'S NOT ABOUT RIGGED VOTES, IT'S ABOUT THE LAW. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY HONESTY LEFT, I EXPECT YOU TO STAND UP RIGHT NOW AND APOLOGIZE TO THIS AND, AND TO THIS COMMUNITY AND THAT THE, AND TO FIX THE CHAMBER AND THE A TAX FUNDED DMO SO IT OPERATES PROPERLY AND LEGALLY UNDER RECOGNIZED NATIONAL GOLD STANDARDS. 
          I BELIEVE WE CAN ALL AGREE IN THIS RUN THAT THIS LEVEL OF ILLEGAL OPERATIONS, STATE AND FEDERAL VIOLATIONS, TAX EVASION AND MILLIONS OF CHAMBERS TAKING OUR A TAX MONEY TO CANADA FOR LOCAL BUSINESS, UH, VERSUS SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESS TO DEVELOP OUR COMMUNITY. 
          DMO WEBSITES. 
          HILTON@ISLAND.ORG AND HILTON HEAD GOLF ISLAND IS LUDICROUS AND UNSUSTAINABLE. 
          OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTS HIS COUNCIL TO HONOR THEIR CAMPAIGN PROMISES AND THEIR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          IF YOU'RE UNWILLING TO DO THAT, YOU SHOULD RESIGN. 
          YOU SHOULD BE BOOTED AND ALLOW OTHERS TO LEAD. 
          TAMARA MELINDA, THE TOWN IS IN VIOLATION OF MY FOIA. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO FORCE COLTRANE AND ORLANDO TO COMPLY? YES OR NO? THE CHAMBERS ALREADY VIOLATED THE NEW CONTRACT AND MUST BE CANCELED. 
          THE CHAMBER MUST BE REPLACED WITH A NEW DMO. 
          IMMEDIATELY. 
          I SUGGEST A LOCAL AD AGENCY OR THE ISLAND PACKET NEWSPAPER. 
          PERRY, TAMARA MELINDA, PLEASE. 
          YOU ARE CHAMBER MEMBER COUNCIL AS A WHOLE MEMBER ATTENDED THE EXTRAVAGANT KOOL-AID CHAMBER BALL. 
          CAN I COUNT ON YOU TO FORCE BILL MILES TO PROVIDE YOU AND ALL 1500 MEMBERS ACCESS TO HIS RECORDS UNDER THE NONPROFIT CORPORATION ACT LAWS AND HOW ALL OUR MONEY AND MEMBERS DUES WERE USED FOR HIS $800,000 PLUS SALARY? YES OR NO? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNCIL? I CALL, I CALLED FOR A CITY DOGE IMMEDIATELY AND STOPPED THE FOXES WATCHING THE HEN HOUSE. 
          LASTLY, PERRY SAID HE SAW CHAMBER RECORDS. 
          MR. HOAGLAND TAKING YOU, YOUR TIME WAS UP, SIR. 
          INVOICE AND RECEIPTS WITH BILL MILES. 
          MR. HO, YOUR TIME WAS UP. 
          THEY BOTH COMMITTED CRIMINAL FRAUD. 
          MR. HOAGLAND, INCLUDING THE TOWN LAWYER. 
          YOUR TIME WAS UP. 
          COLTRANE NO, YOU LEMME FINISH. 
          MR. YOU SIR TO INTERRUPT ME. 
          I'M NOT OUTTA I'M SPEAKING MY FIRST AMENDMENT. 
          SIR, DON'T INTERRUPT ME. 
          YOU ARE DONE. 
          ORLANDO. 
          NO SIR. 
          MR. HOAGLAND, YOUR TIME IS UP. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YOUR CANADIAN MR. HOAGLAND. 
          ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          MR ARE YOU ALL GONNA COMPLY TO MY LAWYER OR NOT? YOU TOOK MY THREE MINUTES. 
          I DID NOT TAKE YOUR THREE MINUTES. 
          YOU CAN GO SIT DOWN SIR. 
          DAVE FERGUSON. 
          I'LL PASS. 
          THAT'S TOO TOUGH. 
          MAYOR DECKARD. 
          GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. 
          I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK INTO THAT. 
          IT'S A LITTLE HIGH FROM MY HEIGHT. 
          UH, BUT FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE MICROPHONE SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR. 
          I HAVE SPEAK INTO IT. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU FIX IT? IT'S ALWAYS TOO HIGH. 
          YOU'LL RESET. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MARK. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT. 
          AND UH, 
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I ALSO WANTED TO THANK MARK TONIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE AN EMAIL FROM YOU, NOT TO ME, BUT AN EMAIL THAT YOU WROTE TO MR. TROYER BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND YOU HAD ASKED HIM IF THE CHAMBER HAD OR NEEDED A TOWN BUSINESS LICENSE AND IF THE DMO HAD OR NEEDED A TOWN BUSINESS LICENSE. 
          AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU REPEATEDLY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CHAMBER, UH, CHAMBER DMO MAKES ABOUT SIX OR $700,000 A YEAR AND FOR PROFIT BUSINESS INCOME AND THEY DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE. 
          AND THE ONLY WAY AN ENTITY THAT MAKES NONPROFIT BUSINESS INCOME IN ANY TOWN OR COUNTY OR CITY IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA IS IF ALL OF THAT MONEY IS GOING TOWARD THE NONPROFIT PURPOSE AND IT ISN'T GOING TO BENEFIT ANYONE DIRECTLY. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S NOT BENEFITING AND GOING TOWARDS SALARIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE GOING TO? YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          AND IF I CAME IN AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? ALL OF MY INCOME FROM MY BUSINESS, I'M WRITING OFF TO A CHARITY SO I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE, I'M SURE THAT YOU WOULD ALL SAY, WELL NO, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PROVE THAT MRS. DECKER AND ANY ENTITY THAT MAKES THIS KIND OF MONEY AND FOR-PROFIT INCOME AND DOESN'T HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE NEED TO BE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          SO THEY HAVE AS OF 20 24, 740 $2,942 THAT THEY REPORTED IN FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS INCOME FOR 2024. 
          THEY ALSO GOT, I'M GONNA SAY IT WAS THREE, THREE AND A HALF MILLION, $4 MILLION IN ACCOMMODATIONS TAX FUNDS. 
          AND THEN THEY REPORTED IN THEIR ANNUAL APPLICATION TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA PRT, WHEN THEY GET MATCHING GRANT FUNDS, THEY SAID THEY HAD $8,125,000 IN PRIVATE BUSINESS INVESTMENT THAT THEY MADE IN THE YEAR. 
          SO THEY WANTED TO GET THEIR MATCHING FUNDS, WHICH IS ABOUT $4 MILLION. 
          SO FOR AN ENTITY THAT HAS ALL THIS MONEY AND ALL THIS REVENUE THAT THEY'RE RAISING AND ALL THIS MONEY THAT THEY'RE MAKING IN FOR-PROFIT INCOME, WHY DON'T THEY HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE? IS THAT NOT A NATURAL QUESTION TO ASK? ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE ALL WONDERING WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET MONEY TO FUND ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, ISN'T IT? BY MAKING EVERY FOR-PROFIT MAKING ENTITY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE? I THINK THAT'S ONLY FAIR AND I HOPE YOU ALL DO TOO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT. 
          SO, UH, THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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