Jan 23, 2026 Northern Regional Plan Implementation Committee

[1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

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IMAGINE THIS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND MAKE SENSE ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL AND WE HAVE ANYBODY BESIDES AND DO YOU FIND STEPHANIE STEPHANIE ROSSI WOW. LOOK, I'M SORRY I THAT BIG LETTERS RIGHT THE PUBLIC HAS

[2. FOIA – PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.]

[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – November 21, 2025]

[5. PORT ROYAL NEW MULTI-FAMILY STANDARDS—NOAH KREPPS, AICP, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL PLANNING DIRECTOR]

IN ADDITION, WE DETERMINED IT WAS PROBABLY BEST TO JUST DO A FULL REVIEW OF OUR CODE AND SO WE SPLIT IT UP INTO CHAPTERS AND SO ARTICLES TWO AND THREE, FOUR AND FIVE IN OUR CODE ARE MOST OF THE MAJOR STANDARDS, THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT STANDARDS AND SO FORTH. AND THEN WE DID KIND OF A SECOND ROUND OF REVIEW WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHICH WAS KIND OF ALL OF THE OTHER SUPPLEMENTAL THINGS MAKING DEFINITIONS LINED UP WITH OUR NEW STANDARDS AND SO FORTH, MAKING SURE THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE CODE STILL LINED UP WITH WHAT WE HAD CHANGED THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND SO WE STARTED A LONG PROCESS. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT A LITTLE A YEAR AUGUST OF 2024 WHERE WE HIRED LOREN KELLEY WITH MOSER KELLEY TO BE OUR CONSULTANT FOR THIS WORK AND WE BEGAN BUILD WORK SESSIONS WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AND I THINK WE HELD SOMEWHERE IN THE BALLPARK OF 6 TO 8 WORK SESSIONS OVER THE NEXT AS MANY MONTHS THAT WERE OPEN TO AND WE BEGAN TO KIND OF LOOK HOW DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE HAD WAS WE WERE TURNING INTO THAT BEDROOM COMMUNITY. WE WERE SEEING LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES BEING DEVELOPED. WE WEREN'T SEEING ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO SUPPORT THOSE RESIDENTS AND THEY WEREN'T STOPPING YOU KNOW, WE WERE GETTING ONE COMPLEX EVERY YEAR THAT WAS 250 UNITS ANOTHER OVER THERE THAT WAS 300.

I MEAN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THEM SCATTERED OUT ON SAVANNAH HIGHWAY ALONG ROBERTS FALLS PARKWAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND SOME OF THE LAST VESTIGES OF THE PREVIOUS STANDARDS ARE STILL IN AGREEMENTS ARE ARE STILL UNDERWAY OR STILL HAVE NOT YET STARTED.

SO WE'RE STILL SEEING THE EFFECTS OF THE PREVIOUS STANDARDS.

SO IN MAY 2025 WE THEN ASKED FOR A SIX MONTH EXTENSION TO TIE SOME OF THE LOOSE ENDS AND

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I'LL TOUCH ON THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO FOCUS ON ON THE STUFF THAT COMES FIRST HERE WE WE STARTED TALKING TO OUR CONSULTANT AND WE WANTED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CONTINUE THE PRACTICE OF PORT ROYAL HAVING UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT YOU SEE THAT IN THE VILLAGE YOU SEE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES NEXT TO A ROW OF TOWNHOMES YOU SEE DUPLEX THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IS A DUPLEX IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LARGER SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE AND THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE LIKE WE LIKE THE QUIRKS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THROUGH THE VILLAGE WE WANTED TO FIND SOME TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. AND SO LAUREN AND I STARTED WORKING ON BUILDING TYPE DIVERSITY STANDARDS AND WHAT THAT IS IS OUR ARCHITECTURAL HAVE A LIST OF BUILDING TYPES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN FORM BASED CODES. THERE WAS A PUSH MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE FORM BASED CODES AND SO WE HAVE WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED WORK AND SMALL HOMES DUPLEX TRIPLEX AND UP AND UP UP TO 24 UNITS IN A BUILDING. THERE WAS KIND OF A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THEM CALLING CERTAIN BUILDINGS MULTIFAMILY CALLING CERTAIN BUILDINGS, SINGLE FAMILY AND SO THE FIRST THING WE WANTED TO DO WAS CLEAN UP TOWNHOMES AS A SINGLE FAMILY STYLE DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUILDING CODE AND SO WERE SOME THINGS WE WANTED TO CLEAN UP TO MAKE IT CLEANER FOR POTENTIAL SMALL DEVELOPERS.

AND THEN THE NEXT THING WE WANTED TO DO IS HOW DO WE MANDATE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES A MIX OF BUILDING TYPES. THERE ARE THERE ARE TOOLS THAT ARE IN PLACE IN CODE ARE TOOLS THAT ARE IN PLACE IN THE CITY'S THERE'S THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD I'M SORRY WHAT'S THE THE PLACE TYPE OVERLAY IN THE CODE WHICH IS WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE WHERE THEY CHANGE THE ZONING WITHIN A LARGER PARCEL TO CREATE THAT SENSE OF DENSITY AT THE CENTER AND LESS DENSITY AS IT MOVES OUT AND THE CITY HAD THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FLOATING OVERLAY WHICH WE'VE ALSO ADOPTED BUT THOSE ARE OPTIONS, RIGHT? THOSE ARE ARE THINGS THAT A DEVELOPER COULD CHOOSE TO DO IF YOU SELL IT ON THEM BUT WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE IT SO THAT THERE'S NO WAY OUT OF DOING THE DIVERSITY OF OF HOUSING CHOICES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS PUT STANDARDS IN PLACE DEPENDING ON THE ZONING DISTRICT AND DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF LOTS OR UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE TYPES OF BUILT THE MIX OF HOUSING TYPES THAT NEED TO GO INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT. AND I LEFT THE BUILDING TYPE DIVERSITY STANDARDS THAT WE ADOPTED OVER THERE ON THE DESK WITH LIBBY IF YOU WANT TO PICK IT UP, LOOK INTO IT IN FURTHER DETAIL WHEN YOU LEAVE SO THIS I'LL SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES. BUT THIS IS BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE MORE DENSE DISTRICTS THAT FOR THAN FIVE. SO IN DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THERE'S MORE THAN 20 BUILDINGS OR MORE THAN 72 UNITS, THERE IS A LARGE MIX OF HOUSING TYPES THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT. SO YOU CAN NO LONGER DO 13 TO 24 UNITS FOR EVERY SINGLE THEY CAN NO LONGER HAVE THAT UNIFORM LOOK THAT THE HOMOGENEOUS, YOU KNOW, ENDLESS STREETS SCAPE OF THE EXACT SAME APARTMENT BUILDING HEADING THE WHOLE WAY DOWN THROUGH THE PROPERTIES. SO IT VIRTUALLY ELIMINATES THE ABILITY TO BUILD THE TYPES OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WE'VE SEEN. WE KIND OF ALSO SEE AS A BACKDOOR MORATORIUM CONTINUING BECAUSE NOT ONLY HELP PEOPLE FROM BUILDING THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS DURING WORLD WAR II BUT, NOW WE HAVE A TOOL IN PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO DOWN THAT WALL AND IT ALSO CREATED SOME MORE NUANCED BUILDING TYPES WITHIN, THOSE MISSING MIDDLE TYPES. SO WE BROKE THEM OUT INTO TWO AND THREE UNITS FOUR AND SIX

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NEW SO WE WE SHOWED THE ORIGINAL PLAN OF ORIGINAL ON OLD JOE POINT.

YES THE OLD JOB WINDOWS HAVE CALLED FOR YOU TO WRITE THAT TO THE INTERNAL PART OF THE BLOCK SO YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON A CORNER ALTHOUGH THERE IS AN EXAMPLE IN FORT ROY A LITTLE BIT ON A CORNER FROM BEFORE I WAS HERE BUT I LIVE IN IT SO IT'S VERY MINIMAL.

LOTS OF FOLKS TRYING TO CAUSE A MINIMUM I THINK I BELIEVE IT'S 100 FOOT IT MIGHT BE 75 OR 100 FOOT WIDE MINIMUM SO THEY WOULD REALLY GO INTO THE MINIMUM SIZE IT NEEDS TO BE SMALL.

THERE'S A THE COURT CAN'T BE LIKE A DETENTION POND OR SOMETHING.

NO YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE GOT INTO WITH OUR WITH REVIEW WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON IS HOW WE HOW WE REVISE CIVIC SPACE TYPES AS WELL. THAT WAS ANOTHER BIG THAT WE THAT WE WANTED TO HIT WITH THIS LIMIT IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT OR JUST WALK US THROUGH SOME OF THE CASE STUDY EXAMPLES THAT WE PUT TOGETHER WHERE THE BUILDING TYPE DIVERSITY THIS IS JUST TO ORIENT YOU THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE PIGGLY WIGGLY SHOPPING CENTER AND ALSO INCORPORATES SOME OLD MOBILE HOME PARKS AS YOU HEAD WEST TOWARDS RIBAUT ROAD THAT ARE NO LONGER IN USE AND SO ALL OF THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY ONE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY. THE PLAN ON THE RIGHT IS A FIRST PASS CONCEPT PLAN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS THE OWNER AT THE TIME.

I'M NOT SURE IF SOMEONE ELSE IS UNDER CONTRACT NOW AND IT WAS 233 TOWNHOMES AND BESIDES THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE STREET LAYOUT WAS WAS NOT WELL IT WAS HEY WE WE'RE GOING TO DO 230 TOWNHOMES AND WE'VE GOT THREE PRODUCTS AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE TINY VARIATIONS IN THE ARCHITECTURE TO MAKE THEM LOOK DIFFERENT. WE ALL KNOW THAT DOESN'T LOOK DIFFERENT AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS LAY OUT IT COULD LOOK UNDER THESE BUILDING TYPE DIVERSITY STANDARDS. THIS IS A T FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER ZONING SO THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO FIVE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES AND YOU CAN SEE FIVE EXAMPLES LISTED THERE IN THE LEGEND AND WITHIN THOSE FIVE BUILDING TYPES WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT YOU CAN DO YOU HAVE TO DO AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE BUILDING TYPES OF FOUR BLOCK SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS EXACTLY THAT THERE'S SOME THOUGHT GIVEN TO YOU KNOW, IF CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT WHERE A CLUBHOUSE WOULD BE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S SOME THOUGHT GIVEN TO WHERE THE DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD GO AND THEN AS YOU MOVE OUT TOWARDS THE NORTH OUT TOWARDS THE SOUTH AND WEST IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS DENSITY. UM COULD ALSO YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE YOU COULD YOU COULD FIGURE THAT HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE TO ONCE YOU GET A CONCEPT PLAN FROM A DEVELOPER SO IT IS JUST TO GIVE YOU YOU KNOW THE COLORS ARE THERE TO SHOW YOU THE DARKER I BELIEVE THE DARKER COLORS ARE THE MORE DENSE SO YOU CAN REALLY MIX DENSITY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND YOU'RE CREATING THAT HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT THIS DOES NOT YOU KNOW THEY KNOW THEIR PRICE POINT FOR THIS PRODUCT.

THEY KNOW THAT THE MARKET THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO WITH THIS NOT ONLY ARE YOU CREATING OF BUILDING TYPE BUT YOU'RE CREATING DIVERSITY OF POTENTIAL BUYER UM THE TOWNHOME A SMALL COTTAGE IN THE COTTAGE COURT MIGHT BE FOR A DIFFERENT BUYER THAN ONE UNIT IN A SIX UNIT WALKUP BUILDING. I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S THE GOAL OF OF THESE STANDARDS.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A SECOND EXAMPLE OF THAT WITH A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LAYOUT. AND SO BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO SHARE THIS PRESENTATION AFTER

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YEAH IN IN NEW SUBDIVISIONS IN THE TOWN HAVE TO CREATE A PUBLIC ACCESS ALONG THE WATER'S EDGE AND SO I THINK BELIEVE THIS DEVELOPER ACTUALLY PLANS TO DO A PATH HERE AND SO WE JUST KIND OF INCLUDED THAT OVER THERE JUST TO SHOW THAT THAT WOULD REMAIN IN PLACE AS.

WELL BUT AS YOU CAN SEE ALSO THERE'S NO GREEN SPACE HERE. THE OTHER THING THAT YOU COULD NOTE HERE ON THE LEFT SIDE IS A GREEN SPACE BETWEEN THE ORANGE SQUARES WHICH IS THE COTTAGE COURT'S. THOSE WOULD ALL BE ACCESSIBLE TO ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN THE DEVELOPMENT OR OTHERWISE. AND SO THAT'S ON TOP OF THE DIVERSITY STANDARDS WE WE REALLY ARE TRYING CREATE A MIX OF SMALLER CIVIC SPACES WITHIN DEVELOPMENT SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE WITHIN A WITHIN A SHORT WALK SOMEWHERE TO TO RECREATE WITHIN WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE IS ARE JUST SNAPSHOTS OF THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT WE THAT WE INCLUDED I'M NOT GOING TO GO TOO DEEP INTO THEM.

I DON'T THINK IT REALLY ADDRESSES THE MULTIFAMILY NEEDS .

THESE ARE LEFT OVER FROM MY BRIEFING TO COUNCIL AND ON THE LARGER SCOPE OF WHAT WE DID AND SO A SMALL SCALE PLANNED INFILL DEVELOPMENT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO HAVE LAX OR WHAT STANDARDS CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY IN A CERTAIN AREA AND THEN CLUSTER AROUND THOSE NATURAL RESOURCES. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING CONSTRUCTED IN THE TOWN RIGHT NOW WOULD BE A LONDON SQUARE CORNER LONDON IN 14TH STREET DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE OYSTER SHED. WE'LL HAVE A PARK THAT THERE IS A WETLAND ON THAT PROPERTY RATHER THAN SAY NO, YOU MUST DO AN ALLEY BEHIND WITH HOMES ONLY FRONTING THE STREET WE FIGURED WAYS TO ALLOW OWNERS TO FRONT THAT WELL IN PONDS SIMILAR TO THE DUCK LINE DIRECTLY NEXT TO IT AS WELL AS A FEW HOMES THAT WILL FRONT A PEDESTRIAN PATH THAT SPANS THE BLOCK BETWEEN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT AND LONDON SQUARE AND SO NOW WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THAT DEVELOPER TO HOPEFULLY TAKE CONTROL OF THE WETLAND AND IMPROVE IT SO THAT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL FOR WADING BIRDS TO FORAGE SPECIFICALLY I BELIEVE NESTING SEASON IT'S SAFER AS WETLANDS ARE PRETTY AT CAPACITY THESE DAYS SO NOAH YES.

OKAY, INTERJECTED PAPPAS. SORRY IF THE SLIDES AREN'T ADVANCING WITH YOUR PRESENTATION AND WE'RE STILL ON ADDRESSING MULTIFAMILY SLIDE NUMBER TWO WE CAN FIX THAT.

WE CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING. YOU MIGHT HAVE THE THAT YOU SHARE STOP PLUS YOU HAVE AT THAT AND DID THAT YOUR SCREEN YEAH ALL I'M SAYING IS IT'S WELL OKAY THAT ONE JUST IT JUST JUST CAME ON SMALL SCALE PLANNED INFILL DEVELOPMENT JUST CAME ON THEY WEREN'T THEY WEREN'T ADVANCING ALONG WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT THE POINT OKAY AND THERE YOU GO PERFECT WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE BEFORE WE LOSE THANK YOU MAYBE LET'S JUST SEE THAT DIDN'T WORK OVER THERE NOW. OKAY I'LL JUST TOUCH ON THESE NEXT TWO SLIDES VERY BRIEFLY. THIS IS THE AN EXAMPLE FROM I BELIEVE THE COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT CODE ON THE RIGHT OF SOMETHING SIMILAR TO IT ACTUALLY IS THE CITY RIGHT? YES. THOSE ARE THE TMD FLOATING OVERLAY DISTRICT.

ONE THING WE THOUGHT WE WOULD STEAL FROM THE CITY BECAUSE IT IT CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WANT TO WITH THE BUILDING TYPE DIVERSITY STANDARDS WITH BUY IN FROM THE DEVELOPER AND CREATE

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SO THIS IS THE COTTAGE COURTS WHICH WE ALREADY ALLOWED BUT AGAIN WE ALLOWED THEM OF THE BUILDING TYPE WHERE THEY HAD TO BE ONE LOT WITH ANYWHERE FROM 3 TO 8 UNITS WITH THE SHARED SPACE IN THE CENTER. AND SO WE WE ALL AGAIN BORROWED FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT ON THIS ONE TO EXPAND ON THOSE STANDARDS MAKE IT A DEVELOPMENT TYPE RATHER THAN JUST A BUILDING TYPE WHICH I COULDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE THERE. AND THE GREAT THING ABOUT COTTAGE COURTS IS THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A BROAD RANGE OF PEOPLE THAT IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR SOMEONE WHO'S AGING WHO NEEDS TO HAVE PEOPLE CLOSE BY BUT WANTS TO HAVE THAT SENSE OF PRIVACY AND KNOWING THAT THERE'S NEIGHBORS NEAR IF THEY DO NEED HELP IT COULD EVEN BE THAT SOMEONE LIVES HERE WHO'S AGING AND JUST HAPPENS THAT YOU KNOW, THEIR NURSE LIVES IN THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE IT'S AFFORDABLE TO THEM.

IT'S ALSO A GREAT PLACE FOR FOR FAMILIES YOUNG FAMILIES BECAUSE THE COURTYARD ACTUALLY CREATES THAT SENSE OF ENCLOSURE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY I'M GETTING OUTSIDE YOUR KIDS GETTING OUTSIDE AND PLAYING BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO JUST WANTED TO EXPAND ON THOSE AS WE UPDATED THE CODE AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE I, I WILL READ THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THIS NEXT SLIDE. YOU KNOW WE, DID A LOT OF CLEANUP.

WE DID A LOT OF THINGS TO MAKE IT USER FRIENDLY. WHEN YOU GO INTO OUR CODE AND LOOK FOR THE SETBACKS INSTEAD OF SCANNING THROUGH EVERY DISTRICT TO FIND WHERE THE SETBACKS ON THE PAGE FOR THAT DISTRICT YOU JUST GO TO ONE TABLE AT THE BEGINNING CHAPTER AND IT HAS EVERYTHING LAID OUT OR ARCHITECTURAL WHILE STILL POTENTIALLY COULD USE SOME WORK WE HAVE CREATED ONE TABLE THAT I THINK I BELIEVE IS THREE PAGES NOW PREVIOUSLY IT WAS 31 PAGES OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY NEED A FULL PAGE DIAGRAM OF WHAT MATERIAL THEY NEED TO USE FOR THE TRIM OF THEIR AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO SOME IN SOME AREAS THAT DOES STILL APPLY BUT BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS IS JUST PARE THAT ALL DOWN AND MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BIT LESS BURDENSOME FOR AN ARCHITECT OR HOMEOWNER WHO'S GOING IN TO LOOK AT PRICING OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING. THE BIG THING THAT I WANT ON BESIDES THE MULTIFAMILY STUFF WHICH TIE IN TO THE MULTIFAMILY STUFF IS THE CIVIC SPACE TYPES BECAUSE THE OVERARCHING GOAL WITH THIS WAS LET'S LET'S DO THE THINGS WE SET OUT TO DO AND LET'S ALSO MAKE SURE WE ALLOW THE WORK OF PORT ROYAL TO CONTINUE. AND SO WE WENT INTO ALL OF OUR CIVIC SPACE TYPES AND PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE NAMED THINGS LIKE REGIONAL POCKET PARK, CIVIC PLAZA BUT THOSE DON'T MEAN ANYTHING IN THE CONTEXT OF FORT WILL REALLY YOU KNOW YOU CAN SORT OF APPLY THOSE TITLES TO PARKS IN THE AREA OR POTENTIAL FUTURE PARKS BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT END UP BEING HERE'S YOUR CIVIC SPACE SET ASIDE YOU MUST DO AND SQUEEZE IT IN AT THE LAST MINUTE BEHIND THE PARKING LOT OF AN APARTMENT BUILDING USE THE 20 FEET BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS AND SAY THAT THAT'S A POCKET BUT IT'S ACTUALLY WHERE THE STORMWATER INLET IS AND IT'S NOT SAFE FOR ANYBODY TO ACTUALLY HANG OUT THERE OR PLAY . AND SO WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE PUBLIC AND PARKS AND PORT ROYAL FROM SANDS BEACH TO THE TRAVELING BUT PARK TO MARINER PARK WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS NOT ACTUALLY THAT WHOLE CORNER ON PARIS AVENUE WHERE THE ANCHOR IS. IT'S JUST THE EXACT FOOTPRINT OF THE ANCHOR AND THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF LEADING UP TO THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF IT.

SO IT TRULY IS A TINY POCKET PARK AND WE INCORPORATED ALL OF WHAT THOSE PLACES SPECIAL IS PUBLIC ART OH IS IT THE SEATING IS IT THE PATHWAYS WE INCORPORATED THOSE INTO NEW CIVIC SPACE TYPES SO THAT WHEN YOU GO INTO THE CODE TO PLAN A NEW DEVELOPMENT YOU CAN PULL OUT OKAY WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THE TRAVELING BOOTH WHERE IT'S A 10TH OF AN ACRE AND IT HAS SOME FORM OF PUBLIC ART AS THE FEATURE IN THAT PARK AND MAYBE THERE'S BENCHES AROUND IT SO THAT CAN HANG OUT THERE. LOOK OUT AT THE WATER BEHIND THE TRAVELING BEAUTY, MAYBE LEARN A LITTLE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THAT OR LEARN ABOUT A NEW IN THE AREA THAT DID THE INSTALLATION. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER BIG THING

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SO OUR CIVIC SPACE HAS TO BE FROM EVERY UNIT IN A NEW DEVELOPMENT.

SO IF YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING IN THE NORTHEAST AND SOMEBODY LIVES IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, HALF MILE AWAY NOW THEY NEED TO BE WITHIN 1500 FEET A QUARTER MILE OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE ENDING ON HOW MANY UNITS THERE ARE. AND SO THAT COUPLED WITH WITH THE DIVERSITY STANDARDS WE'RE REALLY HOPING THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES OCCUR IS GOING TO FEEL MORE MORE ORGANIC CUTTING ON THE THE SIZE POTENTIALLY REQUIRE REQUIRE SOME ASIDE FOR USE OF IT'S NEEDED POLICE SUBSTATIONS IN THE TOWN OF WATERLOO ARE A BIG THING THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT AND SO POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE A NEW DEVELOPMENT MIGHT OCCUR WHERE WE CAN WORK WITH THEM DUE TO THE NEW STANDARDS TO SET THE SPACE FOR THAT TYPE OF CIVIC USE. I THINK I'VE HIT ALL OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT I WANTED TO.

LET ME JUST GO TO THE LAST SLIDE THIS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PRINCIPLES THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 2020 2021 THAT WE KIND OF USE AS A GUIDING LIGHT AS WE WENT THROUGH PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY DECISIONS WE WERE MAKING WERE ON THE PRINCIPLES OF THE CONFERENCE PLAN RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT ONE OF US THOUGHT WAS THE HOT NEW THING.

BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE KIND OF WHAT ROYLE'S CITIZENS HAVE SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE TOWN. WITH THAT I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY HAS A RELATED AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE BROAD RIVER ON THE I THINK IT'S IN THE OF PORT WORLD BUT IN THAT WHAT IS THAT BEING DEVELOPED ON THE ISLAND RIGHT IT WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR NEAR A LOTS THEY WERE ORIGINALLY TOWNHOMES AND THEN THEY REVISED THE PLAN TO CONVERT IT TO SINGLE FAMILY SO THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL THERE SO ACTUALLY AT THE LIKE IT'S A SEPARATE PROPERTY. SO RIGHT AS YOU GO THROUGH HEADING TOWARDS THE GROUP OUTLINING THAT FIRST WOODED PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT THERE THAT HAS BEEN FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COURTHOUSE. OKAY. BECAUSE KNOW THE FIRST HEAVILY USED ROAD YEAH THE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED THEY ORIGINALLY HAD KNOW AN ICE MACHINE AND SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO THE BOAT LANDING PEOPLE HEADING DOWN TO THE BOAT AND I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THE THE ANCHOR SUITE WITHIN THE NEW BUILDING IS IS APPROPRIATELY SIZED FOR SOME KIND OF CASUAL DINING SO THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS WELL.

NOAH, WHAT KIND OF REACTION ARE YOU GETTING THE DEVELOPERS TO THE REVISION OF THE MULTIFAMILY STANDARDS IF ANY AT THIS POINT? YEAH, I'VE HAD I CAN SAY CONVERSATIONS SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPERS. ONE IS THE TYPE THAT HAS THEIR ARCHITECTS SENDING ME QUESTION AFTER QUESTION AND TRYING TO FIND LOOPHOLE, YOU KNOW AND WE HAD QUESTIONS LIKE SO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ARCHITECTURE TYPES OF THESE BUILDINGS, OUR APARTMENT BUILDINGS SO THAT THEY'RE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES AND ABOUT TO CLARIFY NO THESE ARE THESE ARE NUMBER OF UNIT BUILDING TYPES THEY HAVE CERTAIN LOOKS TO THEM BUT IN THE END IT'S ABOUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS. SO YOU KNOW THOSE BROAD ARCHITECTURAL ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE JOB DONE. AND THEN I'VE HAD OTHER DEVELOPERS WHO KNEW THAT THE CHANGES WERE TAKING PLACE AND ARE CONTRACT SPECIFICALLY THE SITE THAT I USE AS THE EXAMPLE IS WORKING WITH AN ENGINEERING AND ARCHITECTURE FIRM IN SAVANNAH TO DEVISE A PLAN THAT MEETS THESE STANDARDS PERFECTLY HAVEN'T HAD TO DO ANY KIND OF PUSHING TO GET THEM IN THAT DIRECTION. WE PROVIDED THEM THE STANDARDS.

WE PROVIDED THEM THE NEW BUILDING TYPE STANDARDS AS WELL AND WE JUST RECENTLY RECEIVED THE THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE THINK IS WORKABLE TO GET THEM TOWARDS THE TYPES OF BUILDING TYPE DIVERSITY THAT THEY NEED TO INCLUDE SO A RANGE AND IT'S THERE IS THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE PEOPLE THAT PUSH BACK AND WE'LL PUSH BACK UNTIL THEY GET THE ABSOLUTE NO AND THEN

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AND SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY BUYING SOME ENGINEERED PLANS JUST JUST TO BE ABLE PROVIDE TO THOSE PEOPLE AND THEIR CONTRACTORS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY.

ENGINEER WE'VE LOOKED AT THE OPTIONS OF BUILDING PLANS FOR SOME FOR SOME DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES THAT KIND OF THING BUT ALL THOSE COST MONEY AND THE MONEY CONTINUES TO COME UP.

IT'S NOT YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE LICENSING PLANS FROM SOMEBODY IT'S NOT LIKE I BOUGHT THIS PLAN FROM YOU ONCE AND I CAN NOW GIVE IT TO 100 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE GOT ENOUGH NO.

THERE'S A MORATORIUM STILL IN EFFECT INTO Y'ALL STILL HAVE LARGE TRACTS OF LAND AROUND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WE IS IT LIFTED IN NOVEMBER SO WE'VE ENDED UP BEING AN 18 MONTH MORATORIUM. WE HAVE A LARGE TRACT OF LAND. WE HAVE A COUPLE LARGE TRACTS OF LAND NOT JUST APARTMENT COMPLEX BUT A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY TOWNHOME ON GROVER HILL ROAD CROSS PARRIS ISLAND GATEWAY FROM THE INTERSECTION OF GROVER HILL ROAD ALL OF THAT WHOLE AREA IS STILL YOU KNOW THERE'S A ONSLAUGHT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS BESTED PRIOR TO THESE STANDARDS BEING PUT IN PLACE. AND THEN ON ROBERTS FALLS PARKWAY CORNER OF ROBERT SMALLS PARKWAY AND BROAD RIVER THERE'S A LARGE SITE THERE WAS ALSO INVESTED FOR APARTMENTS PRIOR TO THESE STANDARDS BEING ADOPTED.

SO IT'LL BE A WHILE BEFORE THE GENERAL PUBLIC REALIZES THAT WE'RE NOT STILL JUST APPROVING THOSE THINGS BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES. SO I ASK MY QUESTION THAT I ALWAYS ASK WHICH IS HOW DO WE GET LOCAL HOUSING MIXED IN THERE? YEP SCHOOLTEACHERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THIS BILL MUCH LESS HOSPITALITY WORKERS. YEAH, I MEAN MY OPINION IS THE FIRST THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS AT A STATE LEVEL WHICH BE ALLOWING INCLUSIONARY ZONING BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO MANDATE DEVELOPERS AS TO BE A PARTNERSHIP THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE ENDING ON YOUR AGENCIES BUDGET. DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE BECAUSE WE NEED THE TAXPAYERS TO COME IN YOU KNOW WE HAVE ALL THESE HOMES, ALL THESE APARTMENTS BUILT. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THESE PEOPLE. SO AT THE SAME TIME ARE WE SAYING WELL YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES FOR TEN YEARS BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR AFFORDABLE UNITS AND GAINING GROWING A TAX BASE FOR THE TYPES WE NEED TO PROVIDE IT COULD BE A DENSITY BONUS DIFFERENT DESIGN STANDARDS. WENDY I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVER WORD I DON'T KNOW THE DENSITY BONUSES EVER WORKED OR THEY DON'T WORK HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO INCLUSIONARY ZONING. CORRECT. SO THAT'S A STATE BY STATE ISSUE. YEAH. YEAH BECAUSE THE COUNTY EVER USED THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ORDINANCE HAS A DENSITY BONUS CORRECT.

YES WE'VE USED IT SEVERAL TIMES MOST RECENT AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE BEST EXAMPLE THAT IT'S

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THERE WAS NO WAS NO LOCAL BONUS FOR THAT CONVERSIONS RIGHT THAT WAS A I DON'T KNOW IF THE ONE IN BLUFFTON WAS VRBO BUT VRBO HAS A MODEL THAT THEY DO I BELIEVE INTERNATIONALLY NOT JUST NATIONALLY IT'S NOT REALLY AFFORDABLE. NO AND THAT'S I MEAN I THINK IT'S GROSS I MEAN IT'S THE SIZE ALMOST $600,000 FOR ONE OF THOSE LITTLE EFFICIENCIES AND THEN IF YOU WANT THIS YOU PAY EXTRA IF YOU WANT THAT YOU PAY EXTRA KNOW AND THEY WANT THIS SORT OF LIKE A NET TO YOU AND FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD A KITCHENETTE IS SO SMALL THAT YOU CAN'T FIT A DISH IN THE SINK WASH IT. SO YEAH THERE'S FLAWS WITH THAT BUT. ABSOLUTELY SO BUT APPARENTLY DICK'S IS DOING THEY'RE GETTING THEY'RE GETTING PEOPLE THEY'RE GETTING SCHOOL BUS STUDENTS. YEAH YEAH.

IT ALSO HAS A BIGGER KITCHEN TO GET A POT TO COME IN. YEAH, I THINK I TALKED TO COURTNEY. YEAH AND A REAL VARIETY OF PEOPLE AGES AND BACKGROUNDS.

YEAH. JUST TO KIND OF COMMENT ON SOME OF THE THINGS WE PUSHED PAUSE ON DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SO IF WAS IN THE PIPELINE IT OUGHT I MEAN PERMITTED IT COULD HAPPEN YOU KNOW WE JUST WANTED OUR CODE TO CATCH UP BECAUSE THINGS JUST HAPPENING AT THE END OF THE BREATH BECAUSE OF AIR.

I MEAN IT WAS GOING BACK AND THE COUNCIL WANTED WE WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT.

WE WANTED THE PUBLIC TO SEE SO WE HAD SIX OR EIGHT, YOU KNOW, WORKSHOPS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WE EVEN TOOK IT OUT TO TRACKER MEETINGS OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, OUT TO BRIDGE PREP SO WE COULD TRY TO REACH THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND WE COULD PRESENT A MORATORIUM WAS A YEAR AND THEN WE DIDN'T GET EVERYTHING DONE IN A YEAR SO WE KIND OF BUMPED IT OUT SIX MORE MONTHS TO COME TO 18 MONTHS AND WE CLOSED UP AND I FEEL LIKE WE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT OF THINGS WE SET OUT TO DO THE DIVERSITY OF BUILDING TYPES, PUBLIC ACCESS WATER WE ARE CODE TREES WE KIND OF TIGHTENED UP A LITTLE BIT EVEN MORE AND LOOKED AT THAT THERE'S ONLY DISTRICT STANDARDS IN OUR COMMUNITIES ON STANDARDS. I THINK WE HAD WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS I FELT LIKE IT WAS A REAL SUCCESS WHEN NO ONE HIS TEAM DID A GREAT JOB SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING AND YOUR WORK ON MY ANSWER AND I'LL I'LL SECOND THAT NOAH AND I CAN TELL YOU LEARN OR NOT AND YOU GUYS REALLY REALLY DID YEAH YEAH WE'VE THROWN A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL GO ON IS THAT RIGHT? THE LIGHT IS THE THING THAT GRABBED MY ATTENTION IS THAT THE OF OF HOUSES AND PRICE RANGE IS ALSO GOING TO CREATE A DIVERSITY OF EXPERIENCES AND PEOPLE I THINK ARE GOING TO GET TO KNOW FOLKS I MEAN THE FOLKS WHO ARE ONE INCOME BRACKET ARE GOING TO BE NEIGHBORLY WITH THE FOLKS WITH A LOWER INCOME BRACKET MAYBE NOT REALLY LOW INCOME BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE THE HOME ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NOT REALLY ACCESSIBLE YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LIKE HOMES LIKE PRICED LIKE PEOPLE. YEAH. AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY THAT WE LOOK AT IT IN THE PLANNING WORLD IS THAT YES, THESE ARE REGULATIONS AND THERE'S NUMBERS INVOLVED AND STUFF AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT CREATES A COMMUNITY FABRIC THAT IS MORE SO THAN JUST SEGREGATING PEOPLE BY THEIR INCOME AND OTHER OTHER ISSUES. SO ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME, YOU KNOW SO VERY GOOD.

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FIRST BECAUSE WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. I'LL START.

OKAY. RUTH, WE'RE QUICKLY TALKING ABOUT CYPRUS WETLANDS.

THE COUNTY HAS APPROVED THE RENOVATIONS TO THE OUTER HORN PARK WHICH WAS PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED TERM AS YOU KNOW. AND SO THAT AND THEN EVENTUALLY HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A CONNECTION BETWEEN WHERE YOU COULD WALK FROM CYPRESS WETLANDS TO ARTS OSBORNE PARK IT WILL A BOARDWALK SIMILAR TO CYPRESS WETLANDS THEY HAD APPLIED FOR SEVERAL GRANTS THAT DIDN'T COME THROUGH BUT THE COUNTY IS GOING FORWARD WITH IT WITH STORMWATER ENTERPRISE SO IT SHOULD BE A NICE ADDITION TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TOO AND GREEN AND I GUESS WE'LL GET MORE BIRDS COMING IN BOTH PLACES AND I'LL SEE ABOUT WE NEED IN HERE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FLAG AND WE HAD A CHAT WITH COUNCIL LAST NIGHT ELLIOT IF DAVID WANTS TO SAY ABOUT THAT IT WAS

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WE DIDN'T GET YELLED AT AND IT WAS YEAH ALWAYS ALWAYS A SUCCESSFUL WE DIDN'T GET YELLED AT SO BUT YEAH VERY VERY POLITE INFORMAL A GOOD DIALOG BACK AND FORTH AND I REALLY LIKE THOSE TOWN COUNCILS AND BOTH IN THEIR AREA CHATHAM OFFICES YOU NOW THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH PEOPLE FIRING GUNS AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A DRAFT ORDINANCE I THINK YOU'RE YEAH I THINK SO TOO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE WE'VE GOT DEVELOPMENT BUTTING UP AGAINST RURAL AREAS NOW AND THERE WAS A PROBLEM IN BLUFFTON AND THE BIG PROBLEM IN CHATHAM WAS TO SOMEONE FIRING A KNOW I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE NEXT WEEK YEP I THINK THEY HAD TO TAKE OVER AND THOSE HUNTERS IN THE RURAL AREA HUNTERS WOULD JUST PEOPLE SHOOT TO ARMS THAT ARE ON THEIR PROPERTY SHOOTING AROUND SITE AND RIFLES OR WHATEVER AND BOTTOMS STRAIGHT OVER INTO YOU KNOW WE GOT SOMEBODY FROM OH WAIT TALK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS YEAH ABOUT YOU FEEL WELL I GUESS NEW WORK IS UNDERWAY THE WATERFRONT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS FINALLY THEY'VE GOT THE SURVEY IN HAND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE TABULATED EVERYTHING YET BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A BI CHARRETTE AT THE END OF THIS END OF MARCH TO BE THAT WITH THREE OPTIONS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR SOME PUBLIC INPUT AND THEY'LL HAVE I GUESS COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. WE'RE WORKING ON THE DAY DOC WE'LL GET THAT BACK OPEN AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AND ALSO THAT YOU THE BIG HOLE AT THE CORNER BAY AND CHARLES HOPEFULLY WILL BE DONE I THINK BY THE END OF THE MONTH AND THEN MOVING UP CHARLES STREET ALL THE WAY UP TOWARDS THE POST OFFICE SO AND I HAVE ANOTHER ONE GOING ON ON KING STREET AS WELL. SO WE'VE TO GET THOSE DONE BECAUSE OUR MONEY'S INVOLVED.

IT'S GOT TO BE DONE THIS YEAR AND. THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ON DELAY BECAUSE OF MONEY ISSUES AND I THINK THEY ARE STARTING COVERED BUT IT'S JUST GOT SOME LEGAL THE POOR PUBLIC THAT THAT ONE IS ON HOLD UNTIL WE TO GO BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO IT WITH OUR MONEY WE DON'T HAVE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AFTER THAT WITH THE SQUARE PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO DO HER SO YEAH WELL THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WE DON'T CONTROL ANY OF THIS STUFF I'M TALKING ABOUT WITH A HIGH SCHOOL PROJECT AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE CAUSING DELAYS AND THE MERCHANTS WERE GETTING FINANCING BUT I WILL SAY WE SPENT SOME MONEY FOR THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS AND I THINK IT TURNED OUT WELL WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS MUCH FOOT TRAFFIC BUT I THINK THE MERCHANTS WERE VERY HAPPY WITH AND ALSO WITH THE LIGHTS WE PUT IN THERE MADE IT MORE FESTIVE. YEAH.

CAN CAN YOU TOUCH ON THE SOCIAL DISTRICT CONVERSATION THAT THAT'S HAVING THAT'S BEEN WELL RECEIVED ON LADY'S ISLAND? I CAN TELL YOU THAT. AND BY ME WELL WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS ON TUESDAY WORK SESSION DURING OUR WORK SESSION AND BY THE WAY WE'VE CHANGED OUR SCHEDULES. WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETINGS ON 6:00 ON THE SECOND TUESDAY OF THE MONTH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WORK SESSIONS AT 5:00 ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY AND THURSDAY WE WILL SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS WE TO GET STUFF BECAUSE BEFORE WE HAD IT TO OUR PRIORITIZED MEETINGS YOU COULDN'T GIVE US THIS TO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS WHEN WE GOT OUT AT 1230, RIGHT? SO I SAID TO YEAH THE SOCIAL DISTRICT IS GOING TO IT WE'VE DONE A SURVEY AND POLLED GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND AND IT'S ON BOTH SIDES AS FAR AS SOME SOME WE'RE VERY CONCERNED THAT IT'S IT'S DOING WE WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE SOCIAL DISTRICT ONLY FOR BEER AND WINE AND IT'S NOT FOR INDUSTRY IT'S NOT IT'S NOT REALLY STRAIGHT UNDER WORKMAN'S COMP AND IT IS IT IS WITH THE INTENT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE A HEIGHTENED COVERAGE IN THE AREAS WHERE IT WOULD BE AND SO FORTH SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE A FREE FOR ALL PARTIES SO IT'S THINGS LIKE THE SOCIAL DISTRICT IN EITHER FLOYD AGAINST IT AT LEAST RIGHT NOW SO I'VE BEEN ENCOURAGING I WAS SURPRISED A MEETING I WAS AT AS PARTNER YEAH THIS WAS AT VOGUE.COM SO COMMENTS. YEAH AND I WAS SURPRISED YOU KNOW WHEN I MENTIONED IT I'D EXPECT A MORE FRIENDLY RECEPTION. THEY JUMPED RIGHT ON ME SO I JUST ASKED THEM TO BE SURE TO COME TO THE WORKSHOP AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SOCIAL DISTRICT WE'RE GOING TO DO A PILOT PROJECT THE THE THE MERCHANTS I GUESS ARE ABOUT TO SELL WATER SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. WE TEND TO SPEND TOWN SEVEN

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DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN THIS WEEK THE WE HAD THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION MEETING IN COLUMBIA AND WE WERE IN COLUMBIA BEFORE IT WAS A OH MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE WERE THERE WHEN MONDAY NIGHT AND WE'RE IN OUR SPEAKERS OR IN CLASSES TUESDAY WEDNESDAY CAME OUT WEDNESDAY NIGHT. I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY GOOD TIME TO SEE EVERYBODY NETWORK A LITTLE BIT AND JUST HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER AREAS AND WAS WELL WELL ORGANIZED AND A GOOD A GOOD TRIP THIS TIME OF YEAR OR LEGISLATIVE ACTION.

SO WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE OUR SENATORS AND HOUSE REPRESENTATIVES AND WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEM FOR ANY MONEY THEY COULD FIND FOR RIGHT ALONG WITH THE ONES TALKING TO I SPOKE WITH SENATOR GRAHAM'S OFFICE AND ALSO WITH OUR THE WHAT'S YOUR NAME? COME ON. OH, SAVANNAH BUT NOW THAT THE APRIL DEVELOPMENT NO NOT NANCY AND I HAD SUSAN TALKED TO REAL WORLD DEVELOPMENT FUNDING PROCESS OR IS THAT ONE OTHER THING FOR YOU FAILED TO MENTION AND THANKS TO MITCH BUT HAVING OUR FEEDBACK PLANNING SESSION IF YOU WILL A RETREAT COUNCIL RETREAT THE END OF THIS MONTH, THE 28TH AND 2929 YEAH IT'S GOING TO BE THREE STATIONS I OH AND WE'RE GOING INSTEAD OF JUST DOING THE STRATEGIC GOALS LIKE WE USUALLY DO BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY BEEN THE SAME WE'RE JUST TWEAKING A LITTLE BIT EVERY TIME THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE A FOCUS ON BACK TO CORE COMPETENCIES WHAT TIMES IT'S LIKE THE 30TH IT IS 538 OH WHAT TIMES THAT ARE PRETTY DEFINED YES I'M LIKE THAT 3530 AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE IT MIGHT NOT WORK FOR LUNCH MAKE FOR A LITTLE WORKING LUNCH AND AS BIRTHDAYS WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT SO CAN COME AND TO SIDE THE NEXT MEETING WITH FEBRUARY WHICH MEETING THIS MEETING IT'S THE THIRD FOR FRIDAY FOURTH FRIDAY SURVEY THE 24 OILS RETREAT IS GOING TO BE THE 20TH FRIDAY THE 20TH OF 9 TO 4 AS WELL.

SO ANY PLACE IT'LL BE IN PLACE OR IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET SOME IDEAS FOR FUTURE

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BUT I KNOW THAT MIGHT BE ISSUES WITH YOU KNOW SCHOOL BUSSES AND DELIVERY TRUCKS WITH THE FOOD DELIVERY TRUCKS SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES BUT I WANT TO MENTION THAT IT'LL PROBABLY FEBRUARY UNTIL LATE SPRING SO IT WILL MY PERCENTAGES IS TEN OKAY I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER WE WILL BE RIGHT NOW SO WE LOST IT ON DUKE STREET.

OKAY. QUESTION FOR THE NEXT THING WE'RE RUNNING FOR NEXT MEETING ,IS THERE ANYBODY THAT CAN THAT CAN TALK ABOUT THE COAST GUARD STATION? DO YOU THINK THERE'LL BE ANY UPDATE ON THAT? I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE TRUE TOO SOON. THE YOU I DON'T THINK THERE'LL BE ANY NEWS .

NO WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE VA AND WE DON'T KIND OF ACTIVE WE KIND OF DO I DON'T KNOW THEY'VE SENT OUT WHICH ALTERNATIVE HAD NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

OH YEAH THERE WAS ALWAYS THEN THE OTHER TWO HAD ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT LED TO THAT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. YEAH SO THE COMMON OURS ARE DOWN.

YEAH. CAN YOU SAY WHICH ONE OR YEAH IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION.

YEAH THAT'S SO ON ON RIBAUT ROAD HAD NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. YEAH THAT'S A GREAT LOCATION.

YEAH I MEAN IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS THAT'S THE CHOICE RIGHT? WHEN TRAFFIC LIGHT WILL MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN RIGHT THERE WAS TOO THERE WAS TOO MANY OTHER ISSUES FOR THE WETLANDS THAT'S WHY WE SQUARED IT UP RIGHT THERE TO FIND THAT WE WERE GOING TO WANT AND NOT WANT A YEARS AGO.

I MEAN YOU KNOW WE KNOW WETLANDS CAN BE MITIGATED BUT SO THAT'S WHY HESITANT TO SAY THAT THAT'S THE SITE BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S IMPORTANT FROM THE MITIGATION PRICE MONEY TO RA AS A GOOD NAME YEAH WHAT ABOUT FOR NEXT MONTH'S GETTING JEERED AND HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE UPDATE FOR YOU ON THIS GREAT 2018 AND 20 2018 PROJECTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ALMOST FULLY COMPLETED BY 2026 AND JUST TRANSPORTATION THAT WOULD BE GOOD TRANSPORTATION UPDATE YEAH AND HE I MEAN WE HAD ONE FROM THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNER A FEW AGO TWO MONTHS AGO BUT I DID THIS FOR THE COMMITTEE FOR MAYOR THAT WAS SORT OF A SOURCE OF YEAH WAS THAT FOR THE TRANSIT SYSTEM TWO MONTHS AGO IT WAS IT WAS FOR PROJECTS AS WELL.

WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE THE WHOLE GAS AND JUST IT WAS OUR IT WAS OUR COUNTY TRANSPORTATION BUT BUT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ON MONDAY WILL BE APPOINTED AND THEY WILL HAVE MET BY THE NEXT MEETING. SO THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY NOTHING. SO I MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO I, I GOT TO RUN AND WE GOT ALL 15 NAMES. YEAH. STEINKE IF YOU DO THE TWO NAMES YEAH. OF I MEAN THAT WOULD BE IDEA I HAD A MEETING BY THE TIME WE MEET. I THINK SO YEAH. YEAH.

YOU WANT TO UPDATE ON CURRENT THE 2018 PROJECTS AND FUTURE PROJECT IN THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE? OKAY. OKAY.

THAT MAY FALL IN LINE WITH YOU KNOW WHEN WAS THERE END DATE FOR THE TSC APRIL APRIL YEAH SO I MEAN THE MAIN YEAH. GOING TO GET ON THE BALLOT AND DO SOME KIND OF EDUCATION ARE BEING TIED AGAINST SAME THING WITH THE PREVIOUS ONES WITH THE MEETING I DON'T KNOW THE ATTITUDE CHANGE THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH IT OF IT'S STARTING TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER YEAH THANK YOU. I THINK I WAS ASSISTANT FROM LEFT AND OH AND THAT'S A NO JERRY KNOWS BIG NEWS AND IT'LL BE ON OUR AGENDA THE OLD AT THE BASE OF THE BRIDGE PLACE ON BRIDGE IT WAS PASSED THROUGH COMMITTEE AND MONDAY WILL VOTE TO PARTY SO LOOKS LIKE A GIANT ROUNDABOUT MOVE I KNOW IT'S NOT A ROUNDABOUT DON'T YOU DON'T SPEAK THAT INTO EXISTENCE I DON'T SAY THAT OR THERE ARE NOT REASON ROUNDABOUT I MEAN THAT INTERSECTION HAS A HUGE OF X O AND THREE HIGHEST IN THE IN ONE OF THE WORST WELL WE GOT AN ISSUE WITH CANE ISLAND BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT PUTTING A LIGHT OUT ON THE BRIDGE AND PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT 6070 MILES. YEAH SAME THING WITH LIGHTSAIL COMING ACROSS BATTERY CREEK AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING. BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM WE'RE GOING TO AND I GUESS OUR DEVELOPMENT OVER THE YEARS ONE SAID YOU CAN EXPAND RIGHT EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO RIGHT I KNOW AND SO SO EVERYBODY HAS TO GET A BIKE. YES.

SO BIKES BUT MOSTLY THE LIKE BUT ANYBODY AT ANYBODY GOT ANY OTHER YOU KNOW COULD I HAVE WENDY HOW ABOUT OH HEY ED ARE THERE ANY ANY UPDATES FROM SO LOCO YOU LIKE THE REGIONAL

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