Jan 20, 2026 Public Facilities Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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THEN KEEP IT GOING. ALL RIGHT. IF I CAN GET THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TAKE THEIR SEAT THEN I APPRECIATED IT IS 315 JANUARY 20TH, 2026 AND THE PUBLIC FACILITIES MEETING IS CALLED CALLED TO ORDER IF I CAN HAVE EVERYBODY STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH IS SAYS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR MISS BROWN, CAN

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE APPROVAL OF AGENDA SEEING NO OBJECTION IT IS APPROVED MOVING FORWARD TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 17 TO 2025. CAN I GET A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR THAT? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION THAT'S. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD – 15 MINUTES TOTAL]

THEY ARE HOWEVER GATE GATED WITH RESTRICTED ACCESS RESULTING IN THEIR BEING PRIMARILY FOR OCCUPANTS THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE COST OF THE PURCHASE WHICH WAS INCLUDED THE PRICE OF THE ROADS WHEN THEY BOUGHT A HOUSE IN THAT AREA.

I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AT SOMERSET POINT WHEN I PURCHASED A HOME AT SOMERSET POINT I WAS NEVER TOLD THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE ROADS AND THAT THE COUNTY WOULDN'T TAKE CARE OF THEM AND THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE CHARGED EXTRA AND THAT SORT OF THING AND SO I WENT OUT AND AFTER CANVASING THE COMMUNITY I FOUND OUT THAT NOBODY ELSE KNEW ABOUT IT EITHER WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS IT WAS QUITE A SURPRISE.

SO I BROUGHT THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD AND HERE WE ARE TODAY OTHER THINGS THAT OCCUR ARE THAT THE YOUNG CHILDREN IN THE AREA AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM THEY HAVE THESE MOTORCYCLES ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOUR WHEELERS GOLF CARTS, GOLF CARTS AND A LOT OF THEM ARE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY AND THEY COME IN AND THEY RIDE ALL OVER THE

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I PERSONALLY DON'T CARE IF THEY DO THAT. BUT MY POINT BEING IS THAT WE AREN'T THE ONLY ONES THAT USING THOSE ROADS AND MR. FOX, YOU'VE EXCEEDED YOU A LOT OF TIME I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF SECONDS TO WRAP UP. OKAY.

HAVE ONE MORE THING LEGALLY ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT OF PHASE ONE WHICH WE PRESENTLY HAS THE COUNTY ROADS WOULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING PHASE TWO AS WELL AND ALSO THE LAST THING IS I INVITE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY VISITED THE AREA IT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO DO. SO AS YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THE SET UP IS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. FOX.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE IS MR. NEIL TURNER .

IT WAS A AFTERNOON EVERYONE. HOW ARE YOU ALL TODAY? OH GREAT.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS NEIL TURNER. I'M THE OWNER OF LOWCOUNTRY FERRY AS OUR CONTINUAL WORKING WITH THE COUNTY THE STAFF THAT YOU GUYS HAVE I JUST WANTED FIRST OF ALL START BY SAYING YOU GUYS HAVE AN AMAZING STAFF THEY WORKED DILIGENTLY TO HAVE YOUR DAY TO TRY TO JUST CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS A BETTER COUNTY AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT. I THANK THEM FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE WITH THEM. THEY'VE BEEN WORKING IN TANDEM WITH US I KNOW THAT HANK HAS GONE ON BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE NEW PEOPLE SO I JUST WANT TO START OFF WITH THAT AND JUST SAY THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I PLAN TO COME TO A COUPLE OF THESE MEETINGS THIS YEAR JUST KIND OF GET TO KNOW YOU GUYS BETTER IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING. FERRY IS RUNNING GREAT. EVERYTHING IS RUNNING ON TIME AND ON SCHEDULE SO ALL DOING VERY WELL. A LITTLE PINEY IS WHERE EVERYTHING IS SMOOTH SAILING RIGHT NOW SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO REACH OUT TO YOU ABOUT THAT. THE SECOND REASON I WANT TO TALK TO YOU WAS THE WATERWAY ORDINANCE. THIS IS SEPARATE PART JUST KIND OF A FALL IN THE SAME DAY SO WORKED OUT WELL BUT. THE BIG THING FOR ME IN THE WATERWAY ORDINANCE IS YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO AN ISSUE THAT IS A BIG ISSUE THAT I THINK FOR EVERYBODY. I THINK IF WE ALL CAME TOGETHER WE COULD WORK VERY MUCH IN TANDEM, SOLVE AN INDUSTRY WIDE ISSUE RATHER THAN AN INDIVIDUAL ISSUE AND WHAT BY THAT IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE USING THE BOAT RAMPS FOR USE WHEN THERE ARE MARINAS THAT CAN STILL FACILITATE THOSE THINGS. SO IF WE JUST ALL COME TOGETHER AND WORK I THINK WE COULD COME WITH A REALLY GOOD SOLUTION SO I'M GOING TO KEEP IT REALLY SHORT TODAY I REALLY WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, TALK TO YOU GUYS AND SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AREA THIS TODAY THE 16TH OF JANUARY WAS OUR TWO YEAR MARK SO JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU MR.. THANK YOU ALL RIGHT NEXT ON THE LIST ERIC BECKMAN I BELIEVE AND I APOLOGIZE TO READING SOME OF THE HANDWRITING HERE AND CAN YOU PLEASE PRONOUNCE THE NAME OR TO MAKE SURE I GOT IT RIGHT TO CALL ME AS LONG AS YOU CALL ME.

MY NAME IS ERIC BECKMAN THE I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOMERSET ITS ROADS THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION ASKING THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER THE ROADS WAS SIGNED BY ME SO THAT'S WHY I AM HERE TODAY MOVED TO THE COMMUNITY BACK IN 2015 AND KNEW HILTONSMITH PRETTY INTIMATELY THROUGHOUT THAT PERIOD OF AND KNEW YOU KNOW ALL ALONG WE DISCUSSED EVEN AFTER HURRICANES THAT THE ROADS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY ALL GOING TO BE COUNTY ROADS AND WERE COUNTY ROADS THE DAVID BARTHOLOMEW AND MYSELF WE TALKED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024 ONCE IT BECAME APPARENT THAT THERE WAS AN INDICATION THAT THE COUNTY WAS NOT GOING TO BE ACCEPTING THE ROADS BUT FOR 15 FOR TEN YEARS I THINK 192 HOMES ALL WERE ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO BE TAKING THE ROADS. HILTON THE ROADS TO THE COUNTY STANDARDS.

HE PUT UP ROAD SIGNS TO THE COUNTY STANDARDS NOT TO THE PRIVATE COMMUNITY SIDE.

SO I THINK IN MANY RESPECTS HILTON BELIEVED THAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO TAKE ALL THESE ROADS FOR YEARS OF REAL ESTATE. I HAVE NEVER KNOWN A DEVELOPER WHO BUILD TO A COUNTY ROAD STANDARD WHEN HE KNOWS THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THEM.

THEY WILL TAKE THE MONEY, THEY WILL TAKE THE MARGINS AND THEY WILL GO HOME WITH THAT THEY WON'T SPEND THE MONEY. SO MY BELIEF IS HILTON TRULY BELIEVED THAT THIS COMMUNITY WAS GOING TO HAVE ALL OF ITS ROADS, COUNTY ROADS WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED NOW OR IS ABOUT TO TRANSPIRE SHOULD THE COUNTY NOT ACCEPT THE ROADS IS THAT THERE WILL BE A SERIOUS WITHIN A VERY GOOD COMMUNITY. WE JUST SAID THE PLEDGE OF AND THAT WE WILL ALL WORK TOGETHER AND THIS COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT TO BECOME A SEPARATE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT TO PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO BUT THERE ARE A OF SENIORS IN PHASE ONE WHO ARE VERY BUDGET AND THEY BOUGHT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE COMMON CHARGES THE CHARGES WERE VERY AFFORDABLE THE HOUSING WAS

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I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME OR IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO SIGN UP THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, DON'T I? I'LL JUMP IN ONCE.

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

JUST HAVE A FEW SMALL UPDATES TO PROVIDE TO YOU GUYS AND MOST CERTAINLY TO DO THE FIRST GAL IN THEORY AND SPECIFICALLY THE MELROSE DUCK. SO AS YOU ALL KNOW BY NOW THE COUNTY TOOK OWNERSHIP THROUGH SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT IN DECEMBER OF THAT PROPERTY AND THEN HANK ABRUPTLY LEFT THEREAFTER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS CONNECTED OR NOT BUT I'VE HAD THE FORTUNATE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED FROM THAT AND SO WANTED TO TELL YOU WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

SO A LOT OF GOOD STUFF WE'VE VISITED BOTH MYSELF AND STAFF ENGINEERING WORKS AND FACILITY STAFF HAD VISITED TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS TO THE ISLANDS TO CHECK OUT THE DOCK.

WE'VE IMMEDIATELY ADDRESSED SOME SAFETY CONCERNS, PUT UP SOME PLYWOOD AND AREAS WHERE IT WASN'T FOR FIRST CITIZENS TO BE AT THIS POINT. SO WE'VE WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND DONE THAT WORK. WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS BOTH INTERNAL AND WITH FOLKS THERE ON OUR VISITS ABOUT SOME OF THE OPERATIONS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS PLAN IMPROVEMENTS. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WE'VE HAD A KICK MEETING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR AS YOU GUYS ARE AWARE WE ISSUED A CONTRACT WITH O'QUINN MARINE TO DO SOME IMMEDIATE REPAIRS. WE HAD A REPORT DONE PRIOR TO THAT SAID THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT INITIALLY. SO WE HAVE THE KICK OFF MEETING ON THE 13TH OF JANUARY AT THAT DISCUSSION POINT WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT INITIAL CONTRACT AMOUNT WAS JUST REPLACING SOME SOME WOOD WOOD DECKING AS WELL, SOME SUPPORT, SOME PILES THAT NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT AND SOME CROSS BRACING UNDERNEATH IT WAS MOSTLY A BAND-AID TO SOME OF THE MOST SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUES.

BUT IN TALKING THROUGH THAT I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO TO ADD ON TO THAT AND TO ACTUALLY DO SOME REHAB JUST IMMEDIATE REPAIRS AND THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM HERE LATER IN THE IN THE MEETING FOR A CHANGE OR TO DISCUSS THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. SO ALL IN ALL THE GOOD MEETING OUR CONTRACTOR THEY ORDERED MATERIALS BEFORE CHRISTMAS THOSE MATERIALS ARE STILL YET TO COME BUT THEY SHOULD BE HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO SO HE PLANS TO BE OUT THERE PRIOR TO THE END OF JANUARY SO THE WORK THE SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT 4 TO 6 WEEKS AND AS YOU'LL HEAR FROM BRIAN AND OTHERS ABOUT THE CHANGE OR OPPORTUNITY IF WE ADD THAT AND GOOD THING IS WE CAN GET THAT WHILE HE'S OUT THERE AND GET THE MATERIALS PROCURED WHICH MAY BE ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO. ALL IN ALL WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MAKING THE NECESSARY REPAIRS RIGHT NOW WHILE IT'S THE SHOULDER SEASON AHEAD OF THE FUTURE SUMMER SEASON.

SO A GOOD THING THERE ANOTHER GOOD THING IS WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE FUNDING. WE HAVE FUNDING IN AN H TAX. THERE'S A ONE AND A HALF

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WE'RE GOING TO ALSO BE MOVING INTO THOSE MIDTERM WHICH IS HOW DO WE WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS IN THE NEXT 60 TO 90 DAYS WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? BUT BEYOND THAT, WHAT'S KIND OF NEXT FROM 90 DAYS TO SIX MONTHS? WHAT DOES THAT KIND OF LOOK LIKE? SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP LOOKING AT HOW OUR OUR WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT THE TERMINAL NOT SAY A FERRY DOCK BUT A PORT TERMINAL. HOW THAT SHOULD BE OPERATED CREATING SOME OPERATING RULES REGULATIONS SO THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING ON THE SAME SAME SHEET OF MUSIC AS WELL AS LONG TERM MANAGEMENT. WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE? WE'LL EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AS WELL. AND THEN LASTLY, WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE LONG TERM IMPROVEMENTS WE NEED TO LOOK INTO FROM A CAPITAL PERSPECTIVE SO A LOT OF GOOD POSITIVE ACTION, LOT OF GOOD STAFF PARTICIPATION.

SO HANK WAS DOING A LOT OF THIS AND NOW WE SPREAD THAT LOAD OUT AND WE'VE GOT A MORE STAFF THAT'S WORKING ON THIS COLLECTIVELY SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE KEY AND AND OTHER THAN THAT ONE SMALL UPDATE BEFORE IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS BUT SHIFTING GEARS A LITTLE BIT IS OUR LONG TERM RIGHT AWAY MANAGER MISS PATTY WILSON HER LAST DAY WITH US IS THIS COMING FRIDAY. SO THANKFUL FOR ALL OF HER SERVICE THAT SHE'S DONE. SHE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT THINGS ON THE FIRST KEY AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. BUT WE'RE ESPECIALLY GLAD THAT WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAIN SOMEBODY THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS TO WORK ALONGSIDE HER KELSEY FLOYD SHE'LL BE REPLACING PATTY AS MONDAY BUT SHE'S BEEN TRAINING WITH HER AND GETTING THE EDUCATION AND HISTORIC INFORMATION SO ALTHOUGH WE'LL MISS PATTY WE HOPE WE DON'T MISS ANY STEPS AFTER SHE LEAVES SO WITH THAT ALL THAT I HAVE AND I DON'T THINK CHUCK HAS ANYTHING EITHER IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS WILL TAKE THOSE. YES.

GO WITH YOU. SORRY. I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO PATTY. SHE IS NOT ONLY A FRIEND, SHE'S A NEIGHBOR AND WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE WHEN I GOT ON COUNTY COUNCIL THAT EDUCATED ABOUT EASEMENTS AND WHAT IT TAKES AND IN HOW SHE GETS IT DONE AND SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB AND IT'S GOING TO BE BIG SHOES TO FILL SO IN ORDER TO SEE YOUR HAND GO UP OH YES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

YOU SAID IT'S NO LONGER ROOM HOLDING OR FISH OR WHATEVER. IT'S SOMETHING ELSE REDFISH HOLDINGS WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNERS NAME SINCE THEN AS PART OF THE SETTLEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THE TERMINOLOGY BUT NOW THE CURRENT NAME THAT'S BEING OWNED IS THE AT LAUNCH VII LAUNCH THE FIRST GAME LAUNCH AND TOOK HANK'S RESPONSIBILITIES OVER TIME I TOOK THE FERRY RESPONSIBILITY. OH YOU DID? I LIKE YOU.

YEAH. YES. AND I WANT TO SAY PATTY I DON'T KNOW BUT I HEARD A LOT OF OTHER GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU AND HAVE FUN BEING GRANDMA AND PLAYING IN THAT WEDDING IS I USED TO BE A FLORIST SO I DEALT WITH A LOT OF BRIDES ANYWAY GOOD LUCK TO YOU KNOW SOME TOOK PATTY I SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAD TO WORK WITH YOU AS YOU ASSIST US IN GETTING SOME OF THE RIGHT AWAY IS FOR SOME DRAINAGE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT MY

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LET'S GO. PATTY THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH KELSEY FLOYD ON A A FEW THINGS IN THE PAST. I THINK SHE'S GOING TO ADD PASSION AND GOOD WORKS TO THAT AND CARRY ON THAT GOOD WORK YOU'VE DONE AS WELL.

WILSON THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ON THIS LANDING PAD OR PAGE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS THAT WHAT'S THE PRIMARY FOCUS IS THE AREA ITSELF AND THE OPERATIONS OF BOTH MELROSE CC HAIG AND FERRY ANYTHING THAT THE COUNTY PUSHES OUT INFORMATION THAT'LL BE THE ONE SOURCE ONE STOP SHOP SO UM WE'LL BE ABLE TO THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED BE ABLE TO GET THE CURATED MATERIAL THE PUBLIC YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT THINK OF BRADLEY CIRCLES AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE. MR. AND BAY PINES COULD WE DOES IT MAKE SENSE? WE DO PAGE FOR THAT I MEAN TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT. YES.

THANK YOU FOR MR. GLOVER. YES. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID ABOUT PATTY AND SHE'S ONE OF THE FIRST EMPLOYEE THAT I REALLY DEVELOP A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH IN THE COUNTY TO GET A SENSE OF THE COUNTY SHE'S HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY AND WITH THAT PATTY FOR I HAVE TO GIVE YOU A STANDING OVATION SHE AND CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO ASK QUESTIONS. SORRY BRIAN. YES.

I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO PUT HER ON LEGAL.

IS THERE ANY OTHER ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL? YES, I DO ONE FOR YOU, SIR.

THIS IS A QUESTION AND I WILL SAY THIS IN IN RELATIONSHIP WITH PATTY I WITH THE COUNTY IN 17 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE NEED FOR SO WHERE IS THE PUBLIC FACILITY RIGHT NOW OR A POLICE OFFICE? NO NO, THE BUILDING ITSELF A PUBLIC FACILITY BUILDING WE PUBLIC WORKS. PUBLIC WORKS, YEAH.

SO PROJECT WAS WORKING WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS BUT IS IN THE PLANNING STAGE AND DESIGN EARLY DESIGN STAGE FOR THAT PROJECT AND IT SHOULD BE LONG BEFORE PATTY LEAVES.

NO I MEAN WE GET ABOUT THURSDAY THAT'D BE GREAT BUT I THINK IT BE THERE BUT AS I'M SURE WE CAN GET AN UPDATE AND GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION BUT. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER MEMBER OF COUNCIL WILL HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION FOR JORDAN.

[8.a. Presentation by Keep Beaufort County Beautiful for the replacement of the Welcome to Beaufort County sign along US 278 (FISCAL IMPACT: $7,208.00. This is budgeted in FY2026 in acct# 1000-10-1198-55201. Current balance is $46,003) - Gene Zapfel, Keep Beaufort County Beautiful Co-Chair]

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

YES, WE HAVE THE MONEY WHICH IS I'M NOT ASKING FOR MONEY SO WE DID THAT YEAR SO WE'RE ALL SET.

YEAH, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. SO MY NAME IS JEAN THAT FROM THE CO-CHAIR OF THE KEEP YOU FIT KIND OF BEAUTIFUL BOARD. OUR MISSION IS RIGHT THERE ON THE FRONT PAGE BASICALLY HELPING TO MAKE THE ENVIRONMENT OF OUR COUNTY MORE BEAUTIFUL AND SAFE AND HEALTH FOR HEALTHY FOR EVERYBODY. THERE'S A CLEARER FACE A PERFECT SO WHAT ARE WE.

WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? WE LIKE THE AGENDA SAID WE WANT TO PUT A NEW SIGN A ROUTE TO 78. I'M GOING TALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND WHERE WE STAND THE PRESENTATION JUST A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE TIMES BECAUSE THAT WAS SUBMITTED A WHILE BACK SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION AS WELL BUT BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW SIGN AND THEN THERE'S JUSTIFICATION FOR IT THERE AS WELL. SO THE NEW SIGN DESIGNED TO REPLACE THE ONE THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN NOW IT'S JUST IN FRONT OF USCCB BEFORE IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS YOU'RE HEADING TOWARD THE ISLAND AND IT'S A SIGN ABOUT EIGHT INCHES TALL BY ABOUT 16 INCHES WIDE AND UNDER IT YOU CAN SEE THE SOLAR WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST WELL-TRAVELED ROUTES IN THE COUNTY AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING THAT SAYS WELCOME THE VIEW FOR SO THAT WAS REALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO TAKE ON I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS HERE BUT WE STARTED THIS ABOUT A YEAR AGO SO WE'VE

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AC DOTTIE TIMES WE'VE ALLOCATED $13,500 FOR THE PROJECT WE WILL DELIVER WITHIN THAT BUDGET FOR SURE AS WE GET DOWN LATER I'LL TALK BIT ABOUT THE THE NEW UPDATE IN TERMS OF PROCUREMENT.

WHERE DO WE STAND ON THAT? WE HAVE ASKED THE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO LAY IT OUT FOR US SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT ALL AND WITH ACIDITY BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO GO FOR A PERMIT AFTER ALL HOPEFULLY APPROVE THE DESIGN AND THE LOCATION AS DOTTIE NEEDS FINAL DESIGN AND AND LOCATIONS BEFORE THEY WILL EVEN EVALUATE A PERMIT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WILL ACTUALLY BE SUBMITTING THE PERMIT ON OUR BEHALF BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE CITIZENS AND WE CAN'T SUBMIT THAT PERMIT SO THE PUBLIC SIDE BY SIDE ON US HERE WE WORKED WITH USCCB TO DESIGN THE GRAPHICS THAT WILL GO ON THE SIGN AND YOU WILL SEE THOSE GRAPHICS IN JUST A MINUTE. I THINK WE GOT 13 DIFFERENT SUBMISSIONS. IT WAS STAFF AS WELL AS STUDENTS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT WE HAD ABOUT THREE WEEKS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND THEY SUBMITTED AND THEY KEEP KIND OF BEAUTIFUL BOARD KNOCKED IT DOWN TO THREE AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT THOSE THREE ARE NOW WE DID SUBMIT AN TO EIGHT DIFFERENT VENDORS FOR OF THE BROAD FOR NORTH OF THE BROAD WE GOT THREE RESPONSES BACK SEVERAL SAID NO THANK YOU THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF WORK WE DO BUT WE DO HAVE THREE RESPONSIVE BACK RESPONSES BACK AND WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD TO SELECT THE VENDOR TO DO THE WORK. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE DETAILS HERE BUT IT'S A PRETTY BIG SIGN FOOT BY FOUR FEET IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR A SIX LANE HIGHWAY PARTICULARLY WITH TURNING LANES. SO IT'S A BIG YOU'LL SEE THE DESIGNS AND HOPEFULLY PICK A GOOD ONE THERE. WE HAVE ALREADY CLEARED S.A.T.

THE SIZE THE THE THE LOCATION WE HAVE WE COULD MAKE IT BIGGER IF WE WANTED TO BUT THE TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY BEST IN ABOUT THAT SCALE COULD MAKE IT IT SMALLER BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SO BIG THAT IT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT SET OF THE COSTS GO UP SUBSTANTIALLY AT THAT POINT WE TO SIGN THE LAST SO WE PUT A GUARANTEE FROM THE IN THE PROCUREMENT THAT THE STRUCTURE HAS TO LAST TEN YEARS AND THE GRAPHIC HAS TO LAST FIVE YEARS THE TECHNOLOGY IS GOOD NOW THIS WILL BE APPLIED ON A METAL ON ALUMINUM SIGN SO IT'LL BE VERY DURABLE IF HITS IT OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO BE REPLACED BUT THE GRAPHICS ARE APPLIED TO IT ARE ELECTRONICALLY AND THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY GLUED INTO THE ALUMINUM.

THEY SHOULD LAST A LONG, LONG TIME. EVERYBODY SAYS IT'S WAY MORE THAN FIVE YEARS FOR THE GRAPHICS BUT THEY SAID THAT YOU KNOW, THAT'S EXPECTATION.

OKAY. SO THESE ARE THE THREE DESIGNS WE HAD 13 AND WE KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN. SOME WERE A LITTLE BIT TOO SIMPLISTIC WE THOUGHT SOME WERE REALLY MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A A ETCHED SIGN. WE'VE SEEN THE ETCHED SIGNS BEFORE THESE THREE KIND OF FELT LIKE THEY WERE THE BEST IN THE SEVEN MEMBERS OF THE CBCP BOARD CHOSE THESE THREE. WE KIND OF FELT LIKE IT WAS YOUR JOB TO ACTUALLY PICK ONE THAT YOU WANT TO USE THE WE TOOK HERITAGE BY THE SEA FROM THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE WE FRIDAY ACTUALLY GOT APPROVED BY THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SORRY BY THE YEAH THE PLANNING TEAM THAT OUR DESIGN IS APPROVED THE STYLE IS APPROVED THE GRAPHICS ARE APPROVED SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO. WE JUST NEED A DECISION ON WHICH OF THE PARTICULAR DESIGNS THAT YOU WANT. SO I DON'T KNOW THE MECHANICS FOR DOING THAT IN TERMS OF HOW ARE YOU ALL GOING TO DECIDE BUT WE'D LIKE YOU TO DO THAT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE SHARED THESE SIGNS WITH ANYONE SO WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY PROUD OF THAT.

SO GET FIGURE OUT HOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PICK WHICH ONE. THIS IS THE LAYOUT THAT WE PROVIDED FROM THE ARCHITECTS SO YOU CAN SEE THE THE THE PRINT ON THE LEFT IS SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT GOES THE SIGN IS IT'S VERY THIN ALUMINUM IT'S ON A VERY STRONG STRUCTURE.

WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS A BREAKAWAY IF A CAR RUNS INTO IT, THE SIGN BREAKS OVER, IT DOESN'T STOP THE CAR FROM GOING FORWARD. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY COMPLIANT. WE'RE CONFIDENT WITH THAT. OKAY.

SO TODAY HOPEFULLY YOU ALL CAN APPROVE THIS THING. PICK A DESIGN THE PROCUREMENT WE WE STARTED THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LOW BIDDER.

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THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED WE DO IT IN TWO PHASES LIKE INSTALL THE SIGN AND THEN LANDSCAPE IT LATER SO WE CAN GO BACK A LANDSCAPE PERMIT. THEY SAID THE COMBINATION TAKES LONGER AND IT'S YOU NEED A FIVE YEAR MAINTENANCE CONTRACT ON THE LANDSCAPE AND IT JUST GETS COMPLICATED. WE CAN EASILY GO BACK AND LANDSCAPE IT IF WE CHOOSE TO BUT IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A LIT SIGN. IT'S A WAY SIGN.

SO YOU ONLY SEE IT AS DRIVING TOWARD THE ISLAND TOWARD THE WATER.

YOU DON'T SEE IT WHEN YOU'RE GOING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION YOU JUST SEE THE BACK OF IT.

SO IT'S JUST A ONE SIDE SO WE'RE READY TO GO. WE REALLY REALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET THE PROJECT DONE THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE THINK HAVE EVERYTHING LINED UP AND ALL WE NEED NOW IS A DECISION FROM THE BOARD. YEAH IF I CAN ADD THIS IS PRESENTATION ONLY BUT I DON'T KNOW DOES THE BOARD DISCUSSED IMPACT THREE? DOES THE BOARD HAVE A PREFERENCE ANY OF THOSE THREE WE INTENTIONALLY NOT ASK FOR A PREFERENCE. I HAVE ONE AND I WON'T TELL YOU RIGHT HERE BUT I DO HAVE ONE.

WE WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE BOARD THAT YOU ALL ARE NOT PICKING YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO GET IT DOWN TO A REASONABLE NUMBER THAT PEOPLE HERE CAN CHOOSE BUT OFFLINE LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHICH ONE I LIKE BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE THAT TO BE YOUR YOUR FOLKS MAKE IT THE DECISION. YES TWO SO THIS IS VERY TO WHERE I LIVE AND I KNOW WE USED TO HAVE THAT REALLY RAGGEDY TIME THAT WE TOOK DOWN SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

BUT THE CURRENT SIGN IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DID TO GET ALL THE PRICING. I MEAN ALL OF THAT IS REALLY STUNNING AND LET ME JUST FIRST SAY I LOVE YOUR KEEP YOU FOUR BEAUTIFUL LOGO THE BEST IN THE CORNER BUT OF THREE SIGNS I REALLY LIKE THE MIDDLE ONE OKAY BECAUSE I THINK IT GRABS YOUR ATTENTION RIGHT AWAY.

WELCOME TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND I JUST THAT ONE'S REALLY GOOD. I WONDER IS THERE A WAY TO IT WITH A SOLAR LIGHT SO WE WE COULD WE'D HAVE TO RETHINK THAT A BIT RIGHT.

WE'RE WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS LIGHT LOTS OF HEADLIGHTS COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

IT'S A VERY LIT AREA SO WE DON'T WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS NECESSARY.

WE ALSO DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THE FINAL COST. RIGHT.

WE HAD A VAGUE IDEA WHAT IT WAS GOING TO COST. WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT SO WE WILL CONSIDER THAT THE THE UCB FOLKS ALSO SAID CAN DO MINOR TWEAKS TO THESE DESIGNS.

SO IF SOMEBODY ALL SAID WELL YEAH WE LIKE IT BUT WE WANT IT TO BE PINK OR WHATEVER YOU DECIDE WE COULD MAKE LITTLE CHANGES BUT YOU KNOW THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME.

WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS WE HAVE OTHER SIGNS SAY WELCOME TO COUNTY SINCE YOU HAVE THE FUNDS AND NOW YOU HAVE THE GRAPHIC WHATEVER WE PICK, WOULD IT BE LESS COSTLY TO MAKE ANOTHER SIGN TO PUT IT ANOTHER ENTRANCE TO THE COUNTY? SO I'M GLAD YOU ASKED TO USE THOSE FUNDS. YEAH.

OKAY. OKAY. SO THESE ARE SIGNS THAT MY WIFE TOOK A PICTURE OF THE ONE ON THE UPPER LEFT AS I'M DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD.

SO WE WERE SAFE. WE TOOK THE PICTURES BUT IF YOU BLEW UP THE ONE ON THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER IT'S JUST ROTTED AND FALLING APART. SO THAT'S WHAT USED TO BE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS WE WANTED TO GET ONE DONE THIS FISCAL YEAR SO THAT I AM JUST DRIVING AT THIS FISCAL YEAR IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT STILL THIS FISCAL YEAR MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO KEEP GOING THIS ONE AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ON THAT CHALLENGE OF DOING MORE AND I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO MORE THIS FISCAL YEAR BUT EACH ONE'S A SEPARATE PERMIT AND EACH ONE IS PROBABLY A SEPARATE PROCUREMENT UNLESS WE STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN.

I'M JUST THINKING ONCE THIS HAS THE GRAPHIC DESIGN THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU PAID FOR TO RUN TWO SIGNS VERSUS ONE MIGHT BE MORE ECONOMICAL AND YOU HAVE THE FUNDING AND WE COULD MAYBE DO IT. YES, I WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS WE WERE ON OPEN BID AND WE WERE ON A A FIXED BID SO WE HAVE A FIXED PRICE AND SINCE IT WAS BELOW TEN K WE COULD FOR THAT AND NOW WE HAVE THOSE IF I GO BACK AND OPEN UP NEGOTIATIONS WITH ONE OF THEM I DO WANT TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS PROCUREMENT FOLKS TO MAKE WE DO EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SAVINGS BECAUSE ONCE EVERYTHING IS DIGITAL AND YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO MAKE SIX LINES YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE

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WE WOULD LOVE TO CHANGE THEM ALL OUT. NO QUESTION ABOUT IT WE JUST WANTED TO GET ONE DONE DEFINITIVELY THIS YEAR ANY OTHER QUESTION? YES. AND AS FAR AS MAINLAND MAINTENANCE, YOU SAID FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. CAN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE THE AREA? YES, THEY COULD. THIS IS I BELIEVE IT'S THE THE GROUND IS OWNED BY THE STATE. SO THIS IS WITHIN THE STATE. OH HOWEVER IT'S SO CLOSE TO US CB THAT AS WE TALKED TO US. CB AND WE TOOK THEM OUT TO THE SITE WE WALKED THE SITE SO WE SPENT TIME WITH YOU A CB WOW OKAY THERE PEOPLE AND THEIR LEADERSHIP SAID WE ALREADY MAINTAINED THE LAWN WELL BEYOND THAT SIGN EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THEIR LAWN THEY STILL MAINTAIN IT. SO THEY SAID THEY DEFINITELY WILL MAINTAIN THE GRASS AND THE LAWN AROUND IT SO IT'LL LOOK BETTER THAN WHAT THE STATE WOULD PROVIDE BUT THE STATE IS ONLY GOING TO DO IT TO THE SIDE. YEAH THEY'RE GOING THE U.S. B DOES A GOOD JOB SO THEY'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO DOING NOT ON PAPER BUT IT'S ALREADY PART OF THEIR THAT THEY MAINTAIN TODAY SO IT'S NOT REALLY KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE YOU DID A GREAT YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB YOUR COMPANY DID A GREAT JOB AND I AGREE WITH MR. RENNICK I LIKE THE MORALE MARYLAND I'VE BEEN AT SEVERAL YOUR MEETINGS WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH THIS AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB AS A COMMITTEE ,REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AS VOLUNTEERS AND I LIKE ALL THREE OF THEM AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE ALL BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU.

YOU ON THIS IN THIS LAST GENE TO YOUR PASSION IN WHAT YOU BRING TO THIS I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT SUPPORT YOU ON AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS WE'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET ON THIS AND I'M TELLING YOU YOU OUGHT TO DO MORE THINGS WITH US AND SO APPRECIATE THAT.

HOPE WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. SURE YOU WILL IF I IS IS THERE A PROCESS FOR YOU ALL TO MAKE A DECISION OR YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ASK IF ANYBODY TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUT THIS ON A FULL AND I DON'T THINK A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE SIGN THE SECOND SIGN AND THAT WE APPROVE FUNDING IT ARE YOU DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS AN ACTION ITEM TO THE NEXT I WOULD FULL COUNCIL YES I WOULD YES I THINK SO YES IT'S BEING HELD THAT BY THE WAY REALLY CLOSE TO WHERE YOU LIVE .

WHAT DO YOU DO YOU MIND RESTATING THE MOTION? ANOTHER MOTION WOULD BE TO MOVE FROM DISCUSSION ITEM TO COUNCIL TO FUND THIS AND I'M LOOKING AT ITEM TWO I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY FUNDED. YEAH. OKAY TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE AND FINAL DESIGN. RIGHT BUT WE'LL DO THEM AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WHICH IS IN HEALTHNET. CORRECT. OKAY AND WHAT'S THE DATE ON THAT ONE JANUARY 26 JANUARY 26 SO AS FIRST AND SECOND ON THAT MOTION THE SECOND ARE YOU GOT THAT NOW DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT YEAH. YEAH SO NOW DO I WANT TO DISCUSS IF YOU INDIVIDUAL DESIGNS OR DO WE DO THAT AT THE COUNCIL TECHNICALLY SHOULD DO THAT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WE'RE STILL ALL RIGHT BUT WE DO NEED A VOTE ON THAT MOTION IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT MOTION TO SENDING IT FORWARD TO FOR COUNCIL ALL RIGHT SEE A NON THAT MOTION IS SUCCESSFUL LET MOVE TO THE JANUARY 26 MEETING FOR AN ACTION ITEM FOR US TO ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN AND PICK FINAL DESIGN FOR YOU OKAY GREAT THANK YOU.

[8.b. Discussion of proposed ordinance amendments of Beaufort County Ordinance Chapter 102 Waterways. Article 1, sections 102–1 definitions, Article II, division 1, section 102-27, purpose, section 102-28, penalties, section 102-29, general prohibitions, section 102-30, dock rules, section 102-31, landing rules, division II, section 102-61, description, division 3, section 102-95, description, section 102-98, penalties, section 102-99 general prohibitions, section 102-100, dock rules, section 102-101, landing rules, Article III, section 102-133, definitions, section 102-134, penalties, section 102-136, student riders, section 102-137, public ridership. (FISCAL IMPACT: N/A) - Dylan Kidd, Deputy County Attorney]

GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP EIGHT BE A DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO ORDINANCE CHAPTER ONE OR TWO WATERWAYS ARTICLE ONE SECTION ONE OR 2-1D WHERE CAN I SUM THIS UP AND SAY WATERWAY ORDINANCE? YES SIR. OKAY ONE, TWO, THREE.

FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD AFTERNOON DYLAN KIDD BACK HERE WITH YOU TODAY ON THE WATERWAYS ORDINANCE FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF DISCUSSION BEFORE THE COMMITTEE APOLOGIZED MY VOICE TODAY PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU DON'T QUITE PICK UP THE JOYS HAVING CHILDREN IN DAYCARE KEEP GIVING THIS TIME OF YEAR I WENT BACK AND WATCHED THE PRIOR PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE MEETING IN NOVEMBER JUST TO MAKE SURE MY NOTES HAD ACTUALLY ACCURATELY CAPTURED EVERYTHING THAT WE DISCUSSED THAT DAY YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS THAT WE HAVE THE VERSION BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE JANUARY 15TH VERSION. IT COMES WITH A HANDY AT THE TOP THAT SEQUENCES THE THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WE'VE INCLUDED WITH THIS SO YOU'LL SEE THAT A YELLOW HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING THAT WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED A BLUE HIGHLIGHT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO PFC ON NOVEMBER THE 17TH THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTS ARE FOUR ADDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WE HAVE PLACED WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE. I MEAN FOR CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION TODAY I'LL FIRST GO THROUGH THOSE AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANY OF THE PRIOR SUGGESTED CHANGES OR ANYTHING ANY ISSUES THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS TODAY.

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YOU'LL ALSO SEE UNDER 102 29 THAT WE'VE ADDED ANOTHER EXEMPTION UNDER SUBSECTION THREE AND THIS WAS AIMED AT THE THE BOAT DEALERS ISSUE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING AND IT STATES THAT THE SECTION SHALL NOT APPLY TO THE TEST DRIVING OF A VESSEL FOR POTENTIAL LEASE OR SALE BY A LICENSED PURVEYOR OF WATERCRAFT OR TO TESTING FOR REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE PURPOSES BY A LICENSED BUSINESS ENGAGED IN THE REPAIR OR SERVICING OF WATERCRAFT THAT'S TRYING TO GET AT THE ISSUE OF BOAT DEALERS HAVING TEST DRIVES AND AS WELL AS THOSE WHO SERVICE BOATS BEING ABLE TO TEST THE MAINTENANCE THAT THEY PERFORMED ON THE WATER AND NOT SUBJECTING THEM TO ANY PENALTIES UNDER THESE REGULATIONS.

THE NEXT EDIT THAT YOU SEE IS ALSO UNDER ONE OR 229 IT IS TOWARDS THE BOTTOM M SO AS YOU'LL RECALL AND TWO WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING THE LIMITATION OF A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL PASSENGERS FOR LIKE CHARTER FISHING EXPEDITIONS, SIGHTSEEING ETC.

WE HAD LIMITED IT TO SIX ORIGINALLY WE HAD PULLED SOME DATA ON THE THE NUMBER OF LICENSES THAT PEOPLE TYPICALLY HAVE AND WE'D GOTTEN THAT BACK TO YOU ALL AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS OVERWHELMING MAJORITY DID HAVE SIX PACK LICENSES.

THERE WAS STILL SOME FEEDBACK THE PRIOR MEETING THAT PERHAPS WE'D LIKE TO INCREASE THAT TO A GREATER NUMBER AND SO WE HAVE STATED IN HERE THAT YOU ARE PERMITTED NO MORE PASSENGERS THAN PERMITTED BY YOUR LICENSE. OBVIOUSLY SO IF YOU HAD A SIX PACK LICENSE YOU CAN'T EXCEED THAT BUT IF YOU ARE LICENSED TO CARRY MORE THAN SIX WE HAVE CAPPED IT AT 12 COMMERCIAL PASSENGERS FOR THIS VERSION OF THE ORDINANCE SO CERTAINLY HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT IF ANYONE HAS ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS AND ISSUE THAT WE LOOKED AT IS UNDER ONE OH TO 31 AND THAT'S SUBSECTION E PERTAINING TO BARGES AND THIS CAME UP IN OUR DISCUSSION OF THE SPECIAL ISSUES PERTAINING TO DIVERSITY AT THE LAST AND WE'VE MET WITH SOME CITIZENS AND CERTAINLY HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON THIS SO RATHER THAN EXEMPT ALL OPERATIONS TO AND FROM DIVERSITY FROM ALL REGULATION WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO GET OUT HERE IS THE MOST TARGETED WAY WE CAN DO WHICH IS TO SPECIFICALLY EXEMPT BARGES SERVICING DUSKY COMING TO AND FROM THE MAINLAND STATING THAT THEY CAN THEY'RE ABLE TO USE OUR LANDINGS BUT WE REMAIN RESTRICTED USING OUR PEERS AND THAT'S PRIMARILY A LIABILITY CONCERN OF BUMPING INTO A PEER IN US HAVING TO INCUR THE COST ON IT AND AS FIGURE WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN ALLOW SERVICES TO DEFER TRANSPORTING GOODS PASSENGERS OR ETC. BY BARGE AND WE CAN WE CAN ALLOW THEM TO MAINTAIN THE SERVICE TO THE ISLAND WHILE ALSO ADHERING TO THE GOALS THAT WE'VE SET OUT FOR FOR ARTICLES ONE, TWO, THREE, THREE IN TERMS OF THE REGULATION.

SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES WE'VE PUT IN AGAIN IN GOING THROUGH THE FEEDBACK FROM THE LAST MEETING YOU KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT CHARTER FISHERMEN OR OTHER CHARTER OPERATORS OF VESSELS BOAT DEALERS, COMMERCIAL PASSENGERS AND BARGES AND THEN RITZ BROUGHT UP A QUESTION PERTAINING TO LICENSING AND INSURANCE OF FOLKS THAT OPERATE WATER BASED BUSINESSES. I DID SPEAK WITH BUSINESS LICENSING AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ISSUING A BUSINESS LICENSE TO THESE FOLKS WE ASKED FOR A COPY OF THEIR LICENSE SO WE'LL SEE HOW MANY PASSENGERS THEIR LICENSE TO CARRY BUT WE DO NOT REQUIRE INSURANCE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE VESSEL AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE DO BUSINESS LICENSES FOR LAND BASED BUSINESSES AS WELL. SO WE TREAT EVERYBODY PRECISELY THE SAME ON THAT FRONT AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THE ANSWER. ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS STARTING OVER HERE I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE M TO THE 12 YOU PUT IN THERE BECAUSE I KNOW ALL MY CONSTITUENTS I THINK HE'S ONE OF MY CONCERN OR MARKS WAS A GREAT CONCERN FOR HIM BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE TAKEN HIS BOATS OUT BEFORE AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION ABOUT THE INSURANCE BECAUSE. ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS CALLED ME ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING AND SAID MAKE SURE THAT YOU SO THANK YOU FOR THAT ONE SO WHEN

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OH YOU DON'T BECAUSE? I KNOW MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I HAD A BUSINESS I WAS TOLD WHAT I? GUESS THAT'S DIFFERENT BUT YET I HAD TO SHOW MY INSURANCE PAPER INSURANCE I INSURANCE YES. I'M NOT SURE IF THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS OR PERHAPS STATE LICENSING.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY HERE? YES. YEAH.

LET ME JUST SAY THAT PEOPLE ASK WHY ARE WE DOING THIS AND YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE DID HAVE QUITE A FEW INSTANCES HERE RECENTLY WHERE PEOPLE TIED BOATS UP TO TO OUR OUR DOCKS AND WE'RE USING THE LANDINGS FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES BUT ESPECIALLY FOR THE BOATS AT AT THE DOCKS WHERE THEY'D LEAVE THEM AND THEN WE HAD AN HOUR POLICY THAT YOU COULD LEAVE IT THERE THEN WE HAD NO TEETH TO GO AFTER THEM AND REMOVE IT AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THIS IS KIND OF WHERE PEOPLE THAT WERE WERE SELLING JETSKIS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AT THE LANDINGS AS WELL OR DOING MORE THINGS THAT WERE WERE TYING UP THE LANDINGS AND THIS IS THIS IS WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A WAY THAT THAT WE HAVE CONTROL AND WE HAVE WE HAVE AND AS I MENTIONED, NO TEETH THAT WE CAN GO IN THERE AND DO THINGS BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RESTRICT WHAT'S HAPPENING WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT SO IT'S IT'S IT'S FAIR FOR EVERYBODY WHETHER YOU ARE THAT CHARTER FISHERMAN OR WHETHER YOU'RE SOMEONE THAT JUST WANTS TO GO FISHING ON A SATURDAY MORNING AND TRY TO GET TO THE LANDING THAT THAT ARE MEANT FOR EVERYONE TO ACCESS. SO EVERYBODY ELSE ON THIS END HAS A QUESTION OR COMMENT FORM . YES. WHEN IT COMES TO THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. WHEN IT COMES TO INSURANCE HAVING ONE OF OUR PIERS OPEN FOR WHAT THIS ORDINANCE ALLOWS, ARE WE SETTING OURSELVES UP ANY LIABILITY ISSUES IT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER IF COUNCIL WAS INCLINED TO REQUIRE AN INSURANCE FOR THOSE OPERATING VESSELS THAT COME TO OUR FACILITIES IT WOULD BE AN EXPANSION OF OUR REGULATORY CAPACITY RIGHT NOW. WE WOULD BE YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT SOMEONE IS OPERATING A VESSEL AND DOES NOT HAVE INSURANCE AND IMPACTS ONE OF OUR FACILITIES, YES, WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO THAT PERSON TO RECOVER FOR ANY DAMAGES SUSTAINED AND TO THE EXTENT THEY DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO IT'S A REAL CONCERN AND IT SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL TO LOOK AT IF THEY WISH TO ADDRESS THAT HERE POTENTIALLY WITHIN I KNOW WE HAVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE AMENDMENTS TO THAT ORDINANCE COMING UP SOME POINT AS WELL SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING TO EXPLORE THERE WHEN WE TALK TO SEA PINES MARINA AND BROAD CREEK MARINA AND ALL DIFFERENT SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ONE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD TO LIABILITY HOW DOES THIS NEW REWORDED ORDINANCE THAT YOU PUT TOGETHER ADDRESS A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD FEES YOU KNOW DOCK INSURANCE LICENSES, ALL OF THAT IS THERE SO I WILL SAY TO SORT OF ECHO WHAT MR. LAWSON WAS GETTING AT PREVIOUSLY THE GOAL HERE AND WHAT THE PROBLEM THAT WE WERE ADDRESSING IS REALLY ONE OF CONGESTION AND OF EQUAL ACCESS AND OF AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD AS YOU MENTIONED, WE HAVE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE FOLKS ARE SETTING UP YOU KNOW, WITH A FULL OF JETSKIS OR KAYAKS IN THE PARKING LOT OF ONE OF OUR LANDINGS AND SITTING THERE AND RENTING THEM OUT TO PEOPLE AS THEY AS THEY ARRIVE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE TO GET AT THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE WE HAVE WE HAVE LIMITED THE SITE OF THE TRANSACTION WHICH IS TO SAY YOU CAN'T TAKE OR ONSITE RESERVATIONS FOR SOMEONE WHO IS COMING DOWN TO LANDING TO MEET YOU THERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING A KAYAK, A JETSKI ETC. WE HAVE MADE IT SO THAT JUST SO THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE PARKING LOTS AND THE PEOPLE HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO THE LANDING STOCKS PIERS ETC. BUT WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND WE ARE STILL ALLOWING THAT BUSINESS TO OPERATE STATING THAT WE CAN HAVE A TRANSACTION THAT IS THAT TAKES PLACE ELSEWHERE AND STILL ALLOW THAT BUSINESS TO PUT IN A KAYAK OR JET SKI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S BEEN RESERVED BY SOMEONE PAYING FOR IT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO THREAD A NEEDLE OF ENSURING THAT WE HAVE ACCESS AND MAKING THE PLAYING FIELD EQUAL WHILE ALSO NOT PUTTING ANYONE OUT OF BUSINESS WHICH WE SAID AGAIN AND THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DO SO I MEAN IT DOES AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK FROM MARINA OPERATORS AS WELL WHO ARE CONCERNED AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO MAKE IT SO THAT WE DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONDUCT NECESSARILY THEIR OWN BUSINESSES OUT OF OUR COUNTY FACILITIES IF IT HAS A DETRIMENT ON THE ABILITY OF OUR CITIZENS TO ACCESS THE FACILITIES AS IN THE WATERWAYS ETC. BUT ALSO ALLOWING FREE ENTERPRISE EXTENT THAT WE'RE ABLE AND IT'S A IT'S A DIFFICULT BALANCE BUT THIS WHAT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN ABOUT AND WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH SUGGESTED EDITS AND HOPEFULLY WE'RE ARRIVING TO THE RIGHT BALANCE AS WE SIT HERE TODAY.

HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT ON MAKING SURE IT'S CLEARED OUT IN TIME FOR PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT AND SOMEBODY JUST LIKE MR. LAWSON SAYS IT IS SITTING THERE FOR DAYS.

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I MEAN WE DO HAVE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT ARE ABLE TO AND IT'S A LARGE WITH A WHOLE LOT OF ACCESS POINTS AND THAT IS CERTAINLY A CONCERN. I MEAN I TO THE EXTENT COUNCIL WISHES TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR, ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE DO IT NOW I THINK WE'D BE TRAINING OUR OUR FOLKS AS TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SPECIFICALLY LIMIT AND WHAT THE OBJECTIVES NEW ORDINANCE ARE AND WE'D BE TRYING TO TARGET AS MANY CONGESTION POINTS AS WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE'RE ENFORCING IT FAIRLY AND EVENLY AMONG THE POPULATION. THE LAST THING I'LL THROW AT YOU IS THIS I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET SO MANY OF THESE MARINA OPERATORS AND CAPTAINS AND THEY SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN, YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ENFORCING YOU DON'T REQUIRE INSURANCE HERE.

WE ARE WE HAVE MARINAS THAT HAVE INVESTED A TON OF MONEY INTO BUYING PROPERTY AND DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY SAYING HOW DOES THIS ORDINANCE GET THAT TO A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD AT THIS POINT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN SO AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT 100 YEARS. IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG? WE'RE TOLD IT'S WRONG PLEASE ADDRESS THAT. YES, SIR. I MEAN IT'S IT'S ALWAYS STRIKING A BALANCE RIGHT BETWEEN SOME FOLKS WHO HAVE CERTAINLY GONE ABOUT PURSUING THEIR BUSINESS INTERESTS THE WAY THAT THEY FEEL IS IS CORRECT AND BEST FOR THEM VERSUS FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A LIVING USING UTILIZING RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COUNTY. AND SO WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO THAT BALANCE.

I MEAN IT IS YOU DON'T WANT NECESSARILY A MONOPOLY THE FEW TO BE ABLE TO DICTATE ACCESS TO OTHER FOLKS BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT A FREE ALL TO WHERE EVERYONE IS HAVING THEIR OWN YOU KNOW, PLAYING BY THEIR OWN RULES. SO WE WANT TO HAVE A BALANCE.

WE WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE AGAINST ISSUES THAT ACTUALLY ARISE AND IMPACT OUR CITIZENS AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHIN THAT EVERYONE CAN OPERATE WITH THEM.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE I JUST WANT TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON THE QUESTIONS BEING ASKED ABOUT INSURANCE AND LIABILITY.

MOST OF MY CONSTITUENTS SAY USING OUR PUBLIC DOCS AND THEY'RE USING IT EITHER FOR COMMERCIAL THE OR SIMMONS THE CRABBERS AND THEN THEY USE IT FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES STUFF I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU CAN SUE FOR ANYTHING NOWADAYS ARE THERE OTHER WHEN I GO TO A BEACH AND THERE'S A SIGN THAT SAYS SWIMMING AT YOUR OWN RISK I KNOW NOT TO GO OUT ON THEIR LISTS. I'M A RISK. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO AND ON PUBLIC FACILITIES AND NOT TO SEE YOU AT YOUR OWN RISK HERE? I'M JUST WONDERING. THAT'S ALL. I THINK TO SOME EXTENT WE DO HAVE OF THAT SIGNAGE IN SOME PLACES. I MEAN WE CAN CERTAINLY VERIFY THAT I SAY THE INSURANCE ISSUE TO ME REALLY COMES IN IF WE'RE AT PROTECTING THE COUNTY FROM SOMEONE WHO IMPACTS ONE OF OUR FACILITIES BUT THEN DOESN'T HAVE THE COURAGE THE COVERAGE FOR US TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT COST IF WE WERE FORCED TO. SO IF SOMEONE WAS OPERATING WITHOUT INSURANCE AND RUNS INTO ONE OF OUR PEERS AND CAUSES DAMAGE I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUR OWN INSURANCE BUT WE'D BE PURSUING ANY COVERAGE THAT THEY HAVE AS WELL.

SO I THINK THE INSURANCE AND THE INSURANCE INSURANCE ISSUE IS IS CERTAINLY ONE TO LOOK AT IF COUNCIL IS INCLINED TO GET GREATER INTO THE REGULATORY SCHEME.

I THINK AS WE BUSINESS LICENSE FOLKS WILL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW OUR BUSINESS LICENSES ARE NOT REGULATORY IN NATURE SO IT'S REALLY JUST A DISCUSSION FOR FOR COUNCIL ON HOW THEY WISH TO PURSUE THIS MOVING FORWARD. CHAIRMAN ONE MORE. THERE'S A SIGN AT OUR BOAT LANDINGS THAT SOMEBODY SENT ME AND IT ACTUALLY TO COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESS USE NO TO THAT.

HOW DO YOU ADDRESS EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT TRANSACT CASH CREDIT CARD WHATEVER? HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY FOR US THIS THERE'S NO COMMERCIAL OR BUSINESS ACTIVITY IN OUR PEERS RIGHT HERE. TAKE A LOOK. I CAN SUBMIT THIS YOU THAT SORT IT APPEARS RIGHT NOW PEOPLE THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE YES THAT'S EVERY ONE OF OUR BOAT LANDINGS OR PEERS OR SOMETHING OF THIS IS THERE THAT ONE SPECIFIC TO THE CROSS ISLAND? I CAN'T SAY I'VE SEEN ALL OF THOSE BUT I MEAN IF IT SO THAT'S A COUNTY SIGN THAT IS REFERRING TO THE OLD PART OF THE ORDINANCE. SO I MEAN I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED THAT TO GO UP OR WHAT PROMPTED IT. THIS HAS BEEN THERE FOR FOREVER

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WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE TO STOP IT. WE PUT THAT SIGN UP AT THE ACTUALLY WE CHANGE IT ORDINANCE TO COME TO THIS NEW DIDN'T WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE ALREADY? WE DIDN'T. LET ME REMIND THE COMMITTEE THAT WHEN THE ORDINANCE FIRST CAME FORWARD IT WAS BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AT THE DOCKS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE ENFORCING THAT AND WE HAD THE EXCEPTION WERE ACTIVITY WAS PROHIBITED IN OUR WARD AND TELL US YOU'RE A FISHERMAN CRABBER A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT THAT WERE IN THE ORDINANCE AND EVERYTHING AS BROUGHT THAT FORWARD SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS DIDN'T WANT TO PROHIBIT ACTIVITY THEY WANTED TO PROTECT THE SMALL BUSINESS PEOPLE USING OUR PUBLIC LANDINGS AND DOCKS. SO WE TOOK THE AUDITS BACK SEPARATE FROM THE OTHER ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED REVISED IT TO THE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. SO YOU ASK ABOUT LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WAS NOT TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD BUT ALLOW THE LIMITED COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO HIGHLIGHT TWO THAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY GOING FORTH SIX MEMBERS ON CHARTERS STUFF LIKE THAT OR WE EXPANDED THAT TO 12 TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD. YOU HAD TO BE HAPPY WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE PUT IN THERE BECAUSE YOU GET A LICENSE FOR UP TO SIX OR THAT'S FROM 7 TO 24, 37, 49, 7 TO 49 LARGE NUMBERS LIKE THAT. 49 WAS TOO LARGE.

WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A LOT MORE PARKING FOR THOSE PEOPLE COMING IN THERE.

WE WE'RE RECOMMENDING 12 IS WHAT DYLAN AND JOHN HAVE PUT FORTH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY WITH THAT NUMBER BUT THAT'S HOW IT CAME BACK.

WE WEREN'T LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. WE WERE ALLOWING SOME COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AT OUR DOCKS AND PIERS THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL DIRECTED AS OPPOSED TO PROHIBITING THAT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALLOWING FOR THE CHARTERS TO GO THERE AND YOU HAVE TO BE HAPPY WITH THE NUMBER 12 OR IS THERE A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAT WOULD MAKE COUNCIL HAPPY? WE DON'T KNOW BUT WE TOOK OUR GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL AND AGAIN IT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO APPROVE TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE BETWEEN SOME COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY OR NO COMMERCIAL. WELL AND MR. RICHARD, YOU FINISH. YEAH, THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY ONE THING.

I WAS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS I WANTED TO SUPPORT AND PROTECT THE SMALL BUSINESS OPERATORS OUT OF OUR BOAT LAUNCHES BECAUSE AS I'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THIS AND TALK TO FOLKS ON BOTH SIDES NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BRON THERE THIS IS A HARD PROCESS.

IT IS A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY NORTH OF THE ROAD VERSUS OTHER BROUGHTON I MEAN POPULATION DENSITY THE TO MARINAS THE COMMERCIAL VIABILITY OF THE MARINAS DOWN SOUTH AS COMPARED TO THERE ARE I DON'T MY UNDERSTANDING IS ARE NOT COMMERCIAL SLIPS AVAILABLE IN NORTHERN COUNTY SO IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANALYSIS SO TRYING TO FIND THAT THAT LEVEL PLAYING OR AT LEAST AN ORDINANCE THAT IS EQUALLY ENFORCEABLE HAS DIFFICULT AND I WANT TO COMMEND STAN FOR TAKING THE TIME AND LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO COME FORWARD AND AND I THINK WE'RE WORKING ON SOMETHING THAT IS THAT IS GOOD AT THE END OF THE DAY.

THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME IS BRINGING THE $500 FINE BACK INTO THE MAGIC JURISDICTION ACTUALLY HAVE DUE PROCESS AND ENFORCE THESE TICKETS IF THEY ARE ISSUED BECAUSE BEFORE IS $1,000 AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ACTUALLY ANY DUE PROCESS OR EVEN ENFORCEMENT OR ISSUING OF THOSE TICKETS BEFOREHAND. BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE I'LL TELL YOU THE INSURANCE AND THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION I WAS GOING TO BRING UP IS REGARDING THE INSURANCE.

I THINK THAT'S BEEN KIND OF ASKED AND ANSWERED ON THAT FRONT.

THE ONLY AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD PROPOSE WOULD BE THE EXPANSION OF EITHER SUB SEX OR A SEPARATE SECTION FOR CHARTER TO EXPANDED TO VOYAGE CHARTER TIME CHARTER AND BEAR BOAT CHARTERS AND INCLUDE THOSE DEFINITIONS IN THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A PORTION OF THE POPULATION THAT WOULD TECHNICALLY FALL OUTSIDE OF THE LANGUAGE HERE WITH THE PROFESSIONAL LANGUAGE IN THERE.

SO AT THIS POINT WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND SECTION ONE OR 2-1 SUPPORT B BY BY ADDING THE INCLUSION OF TIME CHARTER VOYAGE AND BEAR BOAT CHARTERS. I DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION TO HAVE THOSE INCLUDED THERE IN THE DEFINITION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT OR NOT AND IT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM. YEAH BUT I'M TRYING TO GET AN OFFICIAL MOTION FOR HIM TO GO BACK IN AMENDED. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. COHEN AGAIN.

CAN WE CAN WE VOTE ON THAT? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY ALL THE TERMINOLOGY YOU TALKING ABOUT SO I'LL I'LL WAIT I'LL LAY IT OUT THERE A LITTLE AND LIKE I SAID I DON'T HAVE THE

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IT DOESN'T COME WITH ANY PROVISIONS TO PUT THE FUEL IN IT.

I DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THE CAPTAIN IT IS MY BOAT FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME SO IT'S A BEAR BOAT CHARTER. SO THOSE THREE DEFINITIONS WOULD COVER I THINK ARE KAYAK OPERATORS THAT DON'T HAVE A PROFESSIONAL CAPTAIN AND IT WOULD ALSO COVER INDIVIDUALS AT THE LEASE OR RENT THE ITSELF WITHOUT A CAPTAIN. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CLOSE ORDER TO CAPTURE THE CHARTER. THAT'S MY AMENDMENT.

I SAID I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW AND WILL THAT VESSEL BE IT JUST GOING TO TAKE PLACE LIKE LIKE FOR INSTANCE THERE'S AN OPERATOR IN PORT ROYAL I CAN GO RENT PONTOON BOAT THEY'LL GO PUT IN I DON'T OBVIOUSLY PAY THEM THE BOAT RAMP BUT THEY GO PUT IT IN I TAKE THE VESSEL AND I CAN HAVE IT EITHER FOR THE AFTERNOON OR IF I HAVE A PLACE TO TIE IT UP. THAT MAY BE A MARINA TOO. SO I MEAN I MIGHT GET THE MARINE I MIGHT GET SOME SLIP MONEY ON THAT FRONT BUT I HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

BUT THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING A PROFESSIONAL CAPTAIN THAT'S IN THE CURRENT LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SHOW ME A CHARTER ME PRIVATE SERVICE FOR HIRE IN WHICH A PROFESSIONAL CAPTAIN TRANSPORTS INDIVIDUALS CARGO BY WATER SO THOSE OTHER OPERATORS WOULD FALL OUTSIDE OF THIS DEFINITION SO INCLUDING OTHER THOSE OTHER TYPES OF CHARTERS WOULD PROTECT THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS AND OPERATORS HERE IN THE COUNTY ESPECIALLY NORTHERN COUNTY AT LEAST SO I SAID I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE BUT THAT WOULD BE MY MY AMENDMENT AMENDMENT FOR YOU TO GO BACK AND PUT THAT IN THERE I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THE SUGGESTION OR MAKE AN OFFICIAL MOTION ON THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF DO WE WANT TO CALL OR JUST DIRECT THEM TO MAYBE WORK ON IT BRING IT BACK AND DIRECT THEM? I THINK JUST GENERAL GUIDANCE FROM THE COMMITTEE IS ALL THIS BEFORE YOU PUT BE IN THERE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT COUNCIL NEXT COUNCIL MEANING ACT AS COMMITTEE YEAH THEN I'LL WITHDRAW THAT MOTION AND LOGAN I THINK WILL WITHDRAW THAT SECOND AND MORE JUST KIND OF THE GUIDANCE ON THAT.

THANK YOU. IT'S GOING TO GO FOR GUIDANCE PURPOSES MOVING FORWARD ON A TIMELINE. I THINK WE HAD ENVISIONED IT COMING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE AS AN ACTION ITEM AT THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY AND THEN GOING TO COUNCIL AS AN ACTION ITEM AFTER THAT IF APPROVED COMMITTEE I DID WANT TO NOTE WE WERE ENVISIONING PERHAPS THIS A SCENARIO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FIRST READING JUST SO WE GET THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

WE DID POST THIS AGAIN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

WE'LL DO THAT WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL WHEN WE HOPEFULLY HAVE A FINAL DRAFT TO BE PRESENTED AS AN ACTION ITEM. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A THOUSAND RULES IF THEY'RE NOT ENFORCE THEY'RE MOOT. SO WHAT'S OUR LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT? IT'S NOT NOT FOR ME TO PUT IT LIKE THAT. SIGNED A NUMBER.

YES. SO I MEAN WE HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE AS ROBUST AS WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE IT AT THE PROBLEM AREAS THAT WE KNOW EXIST IF WE'RE GETTING REPORTS OR PLACES WE'VE HAD PRIMARY REPORTS I THINK WE'D START THERE. BUT I MEAN IT'S AS AS WE'VE SAID BEFORE I MEAN WE DO PLACE A ON OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT FOLKS AND IT'S IT'S A LARGE WITH A WHOLE LOT OF ACCESS POINTS SO IT'S IT'S A DIFFICULT TASK AND WE BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHERE WE BEGINNING AND WHERE WE CONCENTRATE OUR EFFORTS AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT GOES AND THAT HONESTLY DEPENDS ON SOME PUBLIC FEEDBACK AS WELL.

SO WE ALWAYS WANT TO HEAR FROM CITIZENS ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING PROBLEMS AND WHERE THEY'RE NOT THAT THIS ISSUE IS REALLY MORE SOUTH OF THE BROAD. IT'S IT DOES, YES, WITH A COMPLEX VERSION OF THIS. YEAH. WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE IT'S A BIG DEAL WHERE I'M AT. I KNOW THAT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS I HAVE DILLON THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU TEAM FOR PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER. I APPRECIATE IT.

[9.a. A Resolution to accept a South Carolina Aeronautics (SCAC) Commercial Airport Entitlement Grant in the amount of $42,625.00 for Approach Tree Mitigation at Hilton Head Island Airport (HXD) - Contingent upon final grant offer. (FISCAL IMPACT: The total cost of the approach tree mitigation project at Hilton Head Island Airport (HXD) is $42,625.00. The South Carolina Aeronautics Commission (SCAC) will provide $42,625.00, representing 100 percent of the eligible project costs through Commercial Service Airport Entitlement Funds. No other funds are needed. GL Account: 5402-90-0000-57130 – Grant Expenditures, GL Account Balance: $18,252,000.00. CONTINGENT UPON FINAL SCAC GRANT APPROVAL (anticipated 1/27/2026)) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director]

ONCE AGAIN THE AMOUNT IS $42,625. MR. REINBOLD YOU COULD DO YOU WANT ME MOVE THAT YES SO MOVED YOU KNOW I'LL SECOND SCREEN WE GOT MR. DAWSON ON THE SECOND

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ALL RIGHT. THIS IS AN EASY ONE IS JUST A TREE PROJECT THAT THE AIRPORT HAS EXECUTED. WE'RE JUST FINISHING UP THE SOUTH END OF THE AIRPORT NOW BUT THERE WERE TREES THAT HAD GROWN UP INTO THE APPROACH SURFACES AT THE OTHER END OF THE AIRPORT AND THE FAA US AWARE OF THAT. SO WE'VE TAKEN ACTION AND WE'RE USING MONIES THAT ARE MADE AVAILABLE TO US BY SOUTH CAROLINA AERONAUTICS.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

ALL RIGHT. CAN THIS MOVE FORWARD? WITHOUT OBJECTION THE COUNTY COUNCIL? I SEE NO OBJECTION THIS WILL MOVE FORWARD AND AND MR.

[9.b. A Resolution to accept a South Carolina Aeronautics Commission (SCAC) state-local airport development grant in the amount of $46,775.00 for design and permitting services related to the relocation of the Beaufort Executive Airport’s (ARW) existing Automated Weather Observing System (AWOS) - contingent upon grant offer (FISCAL IMPACT: The total cost of the AWOS relocation design and bidding services is $77,959.00. The South Carolina Aeronautics Commission (SCAC) will provide $46,775.00, representing 60 percent of the eligible project costs. The remaining 40 percent local share, totaling $31,184.00, will be funded through Beaufort County’s American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) allocation. No additional County General Fund dollars are required for this action. GL Account 5102-90-0000-57130 - Grant Expenditures, GL Account 5102-90-0000-57130 balance: $2,724,754.00. CONTINGENT UPON FINAL SCAC GRANT APPROVAL (anticipated 1/27/2026)) - Jon Rembold, Airports Director]

NO ADDITIONAL COUNTY GENERAL FUND DOLLARS ARE REQUIRED FOR FOR THIS ACTION AND IS COMING FROM THE GRANT EXPENDITURE FUND 57 130 OH AND IS CAN I GET A MOTION IN A SECOND TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR? I'LL MAKE A MOTION ALL SECOND THAT ALL RIGHT THIS TIME AND THIS ROUTE CLOSURE THANK YOU THIS ONE ALSO IS NOT ALL THAT EXCITING BUT IT'S PART OF THE HANGAR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND FOR EXECUTIVE AIRPORT AND AS AT SITE WORK IS IS BEING IS ONGOING NOW THE AIR STATION IS IS IN THE WAY OF THE PROJECT SO IT'S JUST RELOCATED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION AND THIS IS THE AND PERMITTING AND ENGINEERING SERVICE BIDDING SERVICES IT WILL GET THAT COMPLETED FOR US. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. RUMBOLD THIS ONE NO RIGHT. CAN THIS MOVE BE MOVED FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION WILL THIS IS PASSED AND WILL MOVE FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL

[9.c. An Ordinance authorizing the acceptance of a drainage easement located on Leo Green Rd (FISCAL IMPACT: Acquiring the drainage easement will have no fiscal impact. Maintenance and any work related to the easement is to be included in Stormwater Maintenance account # 5025-90-9020-51170 (Current Balance: $282,178.51)) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering]

[9.d. An Ordinance Authorizing the Private Road Acceptance of Somerset Point Phase 2 HOA Roads— Cowbird Ct, White Ibis Dr, White Heron Dr, Tern Road S, Sandpiper Dr, Fox Sparrow Rd, and American Avocet Ct—Into the County Road Inventory (FISCAL IMPACT: Current road conditions meet county standards; future impacts could cost below: • Estimated potential costs for Public Works of roadside cleaning ≈ $35,075 (Stormwater Infrastructure account # 5025-90-9020-51170) • Estimated potential cost for 20-year resurfacing ≈ $2.44 million (C-Funds account # 2343- 30-0000-54500)) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering]

THIS IS A9D AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE PRIVATE ROAD ACCEPTANCE SOMERSET POINT PHASE TWO OKAY ROADS COWBOY COW BIRD COURT WHITE IBIS DRIVE WHITE HAIR AND DRIVE TURN ROAD SOUTH AT SANDPIPER DRIVE FOXBORO ROAD AND AMERICAN AVOCET COURT INTO THE ROAD INVENTORY THE FISCAL IMPACT HERE'S THE CURRENT ROAD CONDITIONS MEET COUNTY STANDARDS FUTURE IMPACTS COULD COST BELOW ESTIMATED POTENTIAL CALLS FOR PUBLIC WORKS OF ROADS AND CLEANINGS APPROXIMATELY $35,075 AND THE ESTIMATED POTENTIAL COST FOR 20 YEAR RESURFACING APPROXIMATELY 2,000,002.44 MILLION. MAY I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR? A MOTION? WELL, I'LL SECOND. IT'S MY DISTRICT SO I'M MAKING THE SECOND SO THIS IS GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT IN NOVEMBER FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR THE PHASE TWO A SOMERSET POINT SO THIS IS AND YOU HEARD SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE SPEAK EARLIER SO PHASE ONE IS TEN ROADS ABOUT 3.25 MILES AND THOSE ARE COUNTY THEY WERE DEEDED DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY WHEN THE COUNTY USED TO ACCEPT THAT WAY.

PHASE TWO IS SEVEN ROADS .95 MILES. AND SO SINCE THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU IN NOVEMBER THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE ACTION ITEMS HAVE TAKEN PLACE.

FIRST IS STAFF HAS GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT THE AS MUCH AS WE CAN THE ORIGINAL PLAN MASTER PLAN DOCUMENTS IF THERE WAS ANY MENTION OF PHASE TWO ROADS IN THERE FALLING UNDER THE SAME

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WHEN WAS PHASE ONE AND WHEN WAS PHASE TWO? PHASE ONE IT GOES BACK 3040 YEARS I BELIEVE PHASE TWO IS WAS COMPLETED HE MENTIONS HOW CORNEA ROAD THEY WERE WE PAVED HOW A CORNEA AT THE TIME THEY WERE PAVING THE ROADS THERE SO THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK THREE FOUR YEARS MAYBE I BELIEVE THREE OR FOUR. SO I SPOKE ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST ONE THE GENTLEMAN WAS CORRECT AND THE CTSI OVERWHELMINGLY SAID WE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT THESE ROADS. KCTCS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF ADDING THESE ROADS TO OUR INVENTORY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SAID PEOPLE MAY HAVE BOUGHT THERE AND DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S PART OF DUE DILIGENCE. I MEAN NOT THAT MOVES INTO A NATURE WAY IS TOLD WE HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR OWN ROADS I CAN YOU CAN JUST LOOK AROUND NOT EVERYBODY'S TOLD THAT BUT IN THE END THEY YOU KNOW THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE.

YES MR. DOESN'T BUY MY RECALL WE HAVE A PRIVATE ROAD POLICY AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THOSE POLICY 1516 OR 17 BUT IT ADDRESSES OUR METHOD OF ACCEPTING PRIVATE INTO THE COUNTY MAINTAIN SYSTEM AND IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT I THINK I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE FOLKS ON CATO LANE WHICH WAS A PRIVATE ROAD RIGHT INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM AND THAT POLICY STATES IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT THAT 70 OR 70 PLUS PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THAT ROAD HAVE TO ACTUALLY AGREE TO REIMBURSE THE COUNTY THE COST THAT IT CAUSES TO BRING THAT ROAD INTO INTO THE COUNTY IN COMPLIANCE. SO SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

YEAH, THERE'S POLICY STATEMENT 15 A POLICY STATEMENT 17 THAT YOU MENTIONED ONE HAS TO DO WITH BRINGING PRIVATE ROADS IN AND ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF PRIVATE ROADS.

SO AS FAR AS THE POLICY STATEMENT GOES TO BRING THE ROAD IN, THEY HAVE MET ALL THE CRITERIA THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY HAVE FILLED OUT THE PETITION AND THAT'S WHAT THE SECOND GENTLEMAN ALLUDED TO EARLIER.

THE OTHER STATEMENT YOU MENTIONED IS WHERE IF THE COUNTY WAS TO GO AND DO ONE TIME MAINTENANCE ON A PRIVATE ROAD, A DIRT ROAD FOR INSTANCE ,THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD COME IN TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS REIMBURSING THE COUNTY. SO ARE TWO SEPARATE POLICIES HAVING TO DO WITH SAME ISSUE? BUT YEAH THEY HAVE PUT OUT THE PETITION, SUBMITTED IT AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PATTY FOR A WHILE ON AND SO SHE'S FOLLOWED UP, MADE SURE THEY HAD ALL THE PETITION SIGNED AND EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS BROUGHT TO YOU IN NOVEMBER A DISCUSSION BECAUSE THEY HAVE MET THOSE CRITERIA.

SO YEAH, I MEAN I AM AND I THINK THE THE PRIVATE ROAD ISSUE WAS WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP OR PASSED BEFORE OR THAT WAS BEFORE ANY OF US EVEN GOT HERE BACK IN MID MID TO FIFTEENS I THINK BUT YOU KNOW IN BLUFFTON AND I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, PAULA, YOUR NEIGHBOR MIGHT BE THE SAME WAY THAT THAT I PROBABLY GET SEVEN OR EIGHT DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WOULD LOVE FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER AND COUNTY COME IN AND HANDLE THE THE DRAINAGE AND HANDLE IT AND AGAIN THE ONES I'M TALKING ABOUT AREN'T AREN'T GATED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE GATED BUT WE'RE BUILT TO COUNTY COUNTY STANDARDS THAT YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST AGAIN SEVEN OR EIGHT OR NINE I CAN PROBABLY NAME YOU KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT WOULD LOVE TO BECOME A COUNTY ROAD AND WHY IS BECAUSE OF THAT RESURFACING COST THAT WE SEE ON THERE AND SAY WAIT A MINUTE IF WE HAVE HOW MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DO THIS THAT WAS WHY PREVIOUS COUNCILS DECIDED THAT THAT WAS NOT A PRACTICE THEY WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH WAS BECAUSE OF THE LONG TERM COSTS BECAUSE AGAIN THERE ARE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVE IN HERITAGE LIKES IT BUILT ACCOUNTING STANDARDS I MEAN AND I'VE TALKED THAT BUT BUT AGAIN THEY

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I YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING FOR CASH AND ALL BUT FIRST SOME NEIGHBORHOODS.

HOW DOES THAT MR. MOORE HOW DOES THAT APPLY MR. BARROW HOW DOES THIS APPLY TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? HOW CAN THEY IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE ROADS BACK IN, HOW DO THEY ARE THEY OR ARE THEY ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THAT CREDIT? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING WELL I JUST LEARNED ABOUT IT MYSELF AFTER IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT OR I CAN ANSWER THAT WAS PART OF ANOTHER STORMWATER DISCUSSION WE HAD AND SO AS PART OF THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE A STORMWATER MANUAL THAT DESCRIBES THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO FOR CREDITS IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CERTAIN MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT ARE AT THE COUNTY STANDARDS ARE ABOVE SO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD JUST AS ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IF MEET THOSE COUNTY STANDARDS AND THEY THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS ONLINE ON OUR STORMWATER STORMWATER ON ONLINE THE MANUAL DESCRIBES YOU GOT A SEVERAL DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE IF YOU MEET THOSE YOU SUBMIT A REPORT TO STORMWATER DEPARTMENT THEY'LL EVALUATE THAT AND THEN THEY'LL COORDINATE WITH THE TO OFFER THE STORMWATER CREDIT BACK AND THEN THERE'S A YEARLY INSPECTION REPORT THAT'S REQUIRED TO KEEP THAT CREDIT IN PLACE EITHER IT CAME TO MY MIND BECAUSE I HEARD THAT GENTLEMAN SPEAK ABOUT HOW THE HILTON SOME BUILDER MADE THOSE ROADS OR BUILT THOSE TO COUNTY STANDARDS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY AT COUNTY STANDARD. SO AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT I LEARNED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE OFFER AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AND HOW IT CAN HELP REDUCE HOW DO WE HOW CAN WE WORK THESE PEOPLE IT'S LET THEM KNOW WE AVAILABLE I JUST HAPPENED TO HAPPEN TO STUMBLE UPON IT WITH WHAT I'M DOING HILTON THAT YEAH WELL WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SEVERAL OF THE CITIZENS AND CAME TO US AND WE MET SEPARATELY AFTER THE NOVEMBER MEETING WE'VE GOT THE CONTACT AND WE CAN AGAIN MAKE THAT INFORMATION KNOWN AND THEN THEY CAN LOOK THROUGH THAT MANUAL AND IT'S KIND OF GO THROUGH THERE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THERE COMMUNITY BE INTERESTED IN PLASTIC THANK YOU.

AND SO IS THERE THERE ANYBODY ELSE SO NOW THAT LIKE I SAID THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT I KNOW THIS IS A HARD SELL FOR EVERYBODY BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE I KNOW THE CITY SEEMS TO BE WORRIED THE DOMINO EFFECT IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS COMING IN AND MAKING PETITION. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IN MY MIND IS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A PHASE ONE PHASE TWO WITH PHASE ONE ALREADY BEING ACQUIRED INTO THE COUNTY . AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS OPERATING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION PHASE TWO WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM AND INVENTORY AND I KNOW WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING ON THIS I THINK IT WAS A YEAR YEAR AND A HALF AGO IF NOT YEAH BUT PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO IT WAS STILL DEVELOPER CONTROLLED SO TRY TO GO THROUGH THE THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE FOUND OUT WE HAD TO WAIT FOR IT TO GET TURNED OVER TO THE WAY WHICH CALLS FURTHER DELAY AND I THINK WE'VE TIGHTENED UP SOME OF OUR POLICIES EVEN SINCE THEN OR AT LEAST ARE HAD FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT AND EVERYBODY'S KIND OF SET IN THEIR WAYS NOW BUT YOU KNOW I THINK IT JUST IN THE INTEREST YOU KNOW HOW DO YOU HAVE A PHASE ONE AND A PHASE TWO WHERE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING THOSE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO PAY FOR A PORTION OF A NATURE WAY OR THE ROAD SYSTEM THERE AND EVEN IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN IMBALANCE OUT THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS WOULD ADDRESS IT. LIKE I SAID, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A HARD A HARD SELL AND WE'VE THE CONVERSATION THERE MAY BE A NO ON THIS BUT LIKE I SAID I JUST IT'S HARD WITH

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I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT A DOMINO EFFECT IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD STILL HAVE TO DO A PETITION AND I THINK THEY'RE UNIQUELY WITH A PHASE ONE PHASE TWO THAT DOES SET THEM APART, THAT CREATES STANDARD FOR ANALYSIS HERE.

CHAIRMAN, I'LL SUPPORT YOU ON THAT EFFORT IF THAT'S THANK YOU .

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S ALL MY JUST ARE THERE ANY COMMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE I'D LIKE FOR YOU AND LET ME UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE THE COUNTY COMMUNITY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE WHO IS ASKING US NOT TO FOR A REASON AND WE ALSO HAVE A POLICY THAT ALLOWS FOR AND SO I WOULD REALLY WANT TO KNOW SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? WHAT'S THE BEST APPROACH TO THIS BECAUSE IT DOES OPEN UP OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS COME IN THE CDC SAYS WE SHOULDN'T ALLOW FOR I THINK WE JUST NEED TO VISIT THAT WHOLE SITUATION A SCENARIO SO THAT WE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO WE CAN SUPPORT IT I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND SUPPORT ONE AND NOT SOMEBODY. EVERYBODY GOT THEIR OWN STORY TO TELL AND I DON'T TO DO THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE POLICY AND UNDERSTAND FOR THOSE POLICIES.

AT THE TIME IT WAS IMPLEMENTED AND THEN IF THERE NEED TO BE SOME CHANGES THAT LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. BUT YOU KNOW JUST TO HAVE FOR THIS PERSON AND NOT FOR THAT PERSON I JUST CAN'T SEE MOVING FORWARD. THAT'S ALL.

SO I CAN, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THE CTSI PORTION IT AND CDC DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A SAY IN WHETHER WE TAKE ROADS. THAT'S Y'ALL'S DECISION. CTSI IS JUST SAYING THEY WILL NOT FUNDED OUT OF THE SEA FUNDS THAT THEY GET FROM THE STATE. OKAY THE CTSI CURRENTLY IS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR ALL OF OUR ASPHALT RESURFACING PRESERVATION ASPHALT REJUVENATE. THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE FUNDING FOR THAT PROGRAM COMES FROM WHICH WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CONTRACTS LATER ON ON THE AGENDA THAT WILL BE COMING OUT OF THAT ACCOUNT. SO THE CTSI IS JUST SAYING THAT EVEN IF YOU DECIDE TO TAKE THE ROADS IN THEY WILL NOT FUND IT SO THAT JUST MEAN WE'LL HAVE TO GO FIND ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT WHETHER THAT'S OUR TAG FUND THAT WHERE WE FUND OUR DIRT ROADS OUT OF OR SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT IT WOULD JUST YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO FIND ADDITIONAL SOURCE TO PAY FOR THESE ROADS WHENEVER THEY ARE DUE FOR WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE THAT WAS IN PLACE NO MR. DAWSON TALKED ABOUT BEFORE I BECAME A ON COUNCIL WAS THE RATIONALE FOR THAT POLICY IT WAS BASICALLY IN THE PAST LIKE I'VE MENTIONED A DEVELOPER COULD COME IN AND AS DID THE ROADS OVER TO THE COUNTY AND THE POLICY WAS BASICALLY PUT IN PLACE TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING. THAT WAS OF STANDARD. ALL RIGHT.

I'M SORRY BECAUSE OF THE STANDARD IT WAS I MEAN THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME JUST BEFORE YOU OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WHAT TO ME IT WAS JUST BECAUSE OF THE BEARING TO THE COUNTY TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE ROADS OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT IN PLACE AND THAT'S WHY POLICY STATEMENT 15 WAS PUT IN PLACE TO CREATE A PROCESS TO BRING THOSE ROADS IN AND AGAIN THEY'VE MET THE CRITERIA THEY HAVE GONE IN AND THEY HAVE FILLED OUT THE PETITION AND WORK WITH PATTY AND SUBMITTED THAT.

SO THEY'VE DONE THEIR PART. IT'S BACK TO Y'ALL SO RIGHT. AND IF I REMEMBER BRIAN AND TALKING ABOUT THIS THE POLICY WHAT IT STATED IT REQUIRES THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD THE MEET THE COUNTY STANDARD ORDER FOR IT TO COME IN AND I'M THINKING THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE GENTLEMAN EARLIER THAT THEY HAVE MET THAT STANDARD SO IF THAT IS THE CASE WHY AREN'T WE PERMITTING THIS TO COME IN THEN THAT'S THOSE ARE KIND OF THINGS THAT I AM WRESTLING WITH RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S THAT WAS JUST A CONDITION TO BE BROUGHT IN. THAT'S NOT A IF YOU MEET IT WILL BE BROUGHT IN. THAT WAS JUST ONE OF MANY CONDITIONS I THINK IT SAYS YOU KNOW, IT HAD SIX RESIDENCES OR IT'S KIND OF SIERRA DRIVEWAY SO THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN MET AND THAT IS BEING ONE OF THE CRITERIA. BUT THAT CRITERIA ALONE DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL BE BROUGHT AND JUST MEANS THEY HAVE TO IF YOU WANT IT TO BE CONSIDERED HAS TO

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WHAT MR. DODSON WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE MORE ONE TIME MAINTENANCE THING WHERE SPECIAL YOU CREATE A SPECIAL PURPOSE TAX DISTRICT TO REPAY THE COUNTY FOR THE COUNTY DOING THE ONE TIME MAINTENANCE THING BUT THIS IS JUST THE PRIVATE READ POLICY STATEMENT 17 IS TO BRING THE ROADS INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM WHERE THE COUNTY IS BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADS AND DRAINAGE.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT CTSI DID BEFORE AND WHAT THEY DO NOW CAN I JUST LIKE TO MAKE I REMEMBER WHEN CTC WAS GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND TURNING THE ROADS OVER TO THE COUNTY SOUNDS GREAT BUT THE LONG TERM COSTS AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THE CTSI IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE LONG TERM MAINTENANCE LONG TERM COSTS ONCE THEY TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY IS AND THAT'S IT AND THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER SO I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS GRANT ONE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU ACTUALLY PATTY MADE ME THINK ABOUT SOMETHING HOW IS I BELIEVE THERE'S AN OUTFALL THERE FOR STORMWATER MAYBE ACTUALLY TWO OUTFALLS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. I COULD I COULD BE WRONG BUT HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT US HAVING A PORTION OF IT BEING COUNTY ROAD SYSTEM AND DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND A PRIVATE ROAD SYSTEM AND PRIVATE DRAINAGE ALL TIED IN TO THE OUTFALLS HERE ARE WE THEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO BACK IN FIVE YEARS AND GO PAY EASEMENTS FOR THESE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO ABSORB THE THE STORMWATER SYSTEM OR HOW DOES THAT YEAH SO BRADLEY'S HERE AND HE CAN TALK THE SPECIFICS WITH STORMWATER BUT GENERALLY YOU DON'T SEPARATE THEM WE DON'T SEPARATE THE STORM WATER FROM THE ROADWAY AND ESPECIALLY A SYSTEM LIKE THIS WHERE SOME OF IT IS CURVING GUTTER SOME OF IT DOES HAVE PIPING STORM DRAIN FOR IT THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE A ROADSIDE DITCH.

YOU KNOW, IT HAS A PERMANENT ROADWAY THAT'S FLOWING DIRECTLY IN.

BUT AS FAR AS THE OUTFALLS BRADLEY CAN TALK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I THINK I'M ALRIGHT WITH IT. I JUST WAS KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THE CO-MINGLING BETWEEN THE GENERALLY IS NOT SEPARATED OKAY AND ANYTHING ELSE I RUN I THINK THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD I THINK IF IT WAS OPPOSITE SO MOTION PHASE ONE OR YOU KNOW WAS ALREADY IN PLACE THERE SO THAT'S THE OUTFALLS SO THAT THEY'RE ADDING PHASE TO SOME OF THAT WATER DOES MAKE IT INTO THE PHASE ONE SYSTEM BUT NOT ALL OF IT IF IT WAS SO IF IT WAS PHASE TWO GOING THROUGH PHASE ONE THEN WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT RESTORING STORMWATER I THINK BECAUSE IT WOULD BE IMPACTING THE I THINK TO BELIEVE IS DOING IT. IS THERE ANY QUESTION OR COMMENT ON THIS ONE? I BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROLL CALL IF YOU COULD CALL THE ROLL, CAN WE THE MOTION SO WE KNOW JUST TO BE CLEAR ALL YOU'RE DOING IS LOOKING FOR OR THE COUNTY COUNCIL THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN ON THAT. SO SO YES YES WOULD FOR THIS TO COUNTY COUNCIL WITH A POSITIVE REPUTATION YEAH BUT YES WOULD BE THE APPROVAL OF IT IN A POSITIVE LIGHT NO WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION OF NO TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

PIERCE WHEN IT GOES ANYWHERE IT GOES ANYWAY BUT IT'S DO WE SUPPORT IT OR NOT.

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THE VICE CHAIR BARTHOLOMEW YES. COUNCILMEMBER PASS HIM COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN IN HERE YOU HE'S JUST ON MUTE LARRY. I JUST JOINED YES SIR. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER AND NO BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO REVIEW. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON NO CHAIR HOWARD NO VICE CHAIR CABINET NO COUNCILMEMBER MARK LAWSON NO CAMP.

YES. THE CHAIR CUNNINGHAM NO, THE MOTION FAILS.

[9.e. Approval of a contract to JH Hiers for annual dirt road paving contract #56 ($2,709,377) (FISCAL IMPACT: Contract fee for design and construction will be $2,463,070. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $246,307 bringing the total approval to $2,709,377. The funding for this project will be from account # 2342-30-0000-54500 with a balance of $6,808,590.21.) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering]

MOVING FORWARD TO 90 AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY UP NEXT ON THIS ONE TWO I'M GOING TO BE UP HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT. ALL RIGHT.

GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. FAIR ENOUGH.

90 IS APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT TO J TIRES FOR ANNUAL DIRT ROAD PAVING CONTRACT NUMBER 56 IN THE AMOUNT OF IT LOOKS LIKE I'M SORRY FISCAL IMPACT CONTRACT FEE FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WILL BE $2,463,070. STAFFORD RECOMMENDS A 10% CONTINGENCY OF $246,307, BRINGING THE TOTAL TO $2,709,377. THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL FROM ACCOUNT ENDING IN 54500 WITH A BALANCE OF $6.8 MILLION.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION SECOND TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION ALL RIGHT.

I'LL SECOND RIGHT AND RUN ALL YOURS AGAIN. SO THIS IS JUST OUR ANNUAL DIRT ROAD PAVING CONTRACT. THERE'S FOUR ROADS ON THIS ONE GIBSON DRIVE, MONTGOMERY LANE, ELY FARM ROAD AND THEN THE LAST OF JOHNSON LANDING ROAD. IT WAS ROCKED A FEW YEARS AGO AND THIS IS GOING TO PAVE IT THE LAST END OF IT. SO LIKE I SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 2.46 MILLION FOR THE CONTRACT, 246,000 FOR THE CONTINGENCY.

AND I WILL ADD IN THERE WHEN WE GOT THE BID BACK WE MET WITH THE CONTRACTOR.

THIS IS A DESIGN BUILD. MOST OF THE ROADS WERE IN LINE WITH WITH ESTIMATE WITHIN ONE OR 2%. THE FOURTH ONE WAS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. WE MET WITH THEM AND BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE SITUATION OUT THERE THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR CURVING GUTTER UNDERGROUND PIPING POTENTIALLY EVEN UNDERGROUND ATTENTION WHICH SO THEY DID THEIR COST ESTIMATE THEY INCLUDED ALL THAT FEE IN THERE . SO TO BE ABLE TO NARROW IT DOWN AND GET A MORE STREAMLINED AND POSSIBLY SOME COST SAVINGS THEY NEED TO GET INTO DESIGN AND DO SOME GEOTECH AND SOILS TESTING SO THAT MADE SENSE WE WERE FELT THAT THE WITHOUT EXPLANATION IT WAS FAIR AND REASONABLE BUT THERE IS A POTENTIAL HERE ONCE GET INTO DESIGN FOR SOME OF THESE COST TO ACTUALLY COME DOWN BECAUSE WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOME PERVIOUS ASPHALT OR SOMETHING INSTEAD OF DOING A FOUR UNDERGROUND DETENTION. SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SOME SAVINGS WITH THIS CONTRACT BUT SO RIGHT ANY QUESTIONS? YES, I SEE WE ONLY HAD ONE BID IT WAS DEEMED EXAMPLE OF WHY WHY ONLY ONE BID WHERE'S THE REST OF THE WORLD.

SO THE PAVING 7895 PROBABLY YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS GOES BACK TO A OF OUR ASPHALT CONTRACTS AND JUST WITH DOWN IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD IT'S HARD TO GET CONTRACTORS DOWN HERE THIS BEING A DESIGN BUILD GENERALLY THE TO CONTRACTOR IS THAT GO AFTER IT ARE PULLING FROM ONE OF TWO ASPHALT SOURCES SO AND I BELIEVE THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO BE DOING 95 278 THAT COULD HAVE PLAYED A PART OF IT BUT YEAH SO THAT'S WHY WE GOT BID RAISES A QUESTION AS TO THE COMMUNITY WOULD SAY ONLY HAD ONE BID WHY AREN'T YOU GOING OUT TO BID AGAIN BUT WE KNOW FACT BUT I WANTED TO HEAR IT SAY AND I WILL SAY GOING BACK TO OUR FIVE YEAR DIRT ROAD EVALUATION THAT YOU KNOW SET OUT OUR FIVE YEAR PLAN THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE UPDATED FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WAS COMPLETED TWO YEARS AGO I BELIEVE AND THE COST ESTIMATES PROVIDED YEARS AGO LIKE I JUST STATED, YOU KNOW WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE ROAD WHERE WITHIN A COUPLE OF PERCENT OF EACH OTHER SO OVERALL FELT THAT THOSE ESTIMATES AND WHAT THE FEES WE GOT WERE SO ANTICIPATE I ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE AND MORE ISSUES WITH GETTING PEOPLE TO PAVE DUE TO THE 95 TO 78 ALL THIS FUN STUFF POTENTIALLY ALL THESE VENDORS ARE HAVING A FIELD. YEAH POTENTIALLY.

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SO WE'LL SEE HOW DO WE SO WITH THIS LET ME JUST SAY THIS ONE DO WE PUT A TIMELINE ON THEM OR DO WE SAY HEY, YOU CAN DO IT WHENEVER YOU HAVE A SLOW TIME OR WHENEVER YOU KNOW DO WE ALLOW THEM TO INSERT IT IN THEIR CALENDAR? I KNOW WE WHERE I LIVE SO WE LET THEM FIT IT IN WHERE THEY CAN IT. IT DEPENDS FOR THESE CONTRACT SINCE IT'S A DESIGN BILL WE GENERALLY GIVE THEM YOU KNOW A YEAR CONTRACT TIME WHICH REALLY TIGHT FOR THESE DIRT ROADS TO GO THROUGH DESIGN PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION BUT SO YOU KNOW JUST, 800 HIRES HAS DONE THE LAST FEW OF THESE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ONE OF THE BIDDERS AND THEY PRETTY MUCH HAVE A CREW. THIS IS WHAT THEY DO IS BETTER ROADS SO WE'RE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT WORKING WITH US AND THEIR SCHEDULE AND WE'RE PRETTY FOR SOME OF THE ASPHALT RESURFACING . WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT AND SAID HEY YOU KNOW WE JUST NEED IT DONE BY THIS DATE IF YOU CAN GET TO IT ANY TIME BY YOU KNOW COME WHEN YOU WANT AND YOU'LL DO APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE FIND TIME TO FIT IT IN.

SO WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME I MEAN WITHOUT GIVING TOO MUCH LEEWAY AND CONTROL THE WAY BUT WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT SO . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. CNN DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE OR CAN THIS BE DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION THIS WILL BE FORWARDED TO COUNTY COUNCIL FOR

[9.f. Approval of a sole-source contract to Slurry Pavers Inc. for Year 9 pavement preservation. ($753,343.13) (FISCAL IMPACT: Contract fee for Slurry Pavers to furnish all materials and equipment to perform the Micro surfacing Type II is $684,857.39. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $68,485.74. Bringing the total approval to $753,343.13. The funding for this project will be from CTC State Infrastructure account # 2343-30-0000-54500 with a balance of $3,215,563.33) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering]

THE FISCAL IMPACT HERE IS CONTRACT FEE FOR SLURRY PAVERS TO FURNISH ALL MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT TO PERFORM THE MICRO SURFACING TYPE $684,857.39 STAFF RECOMMENDS A 10% CONTINGENCY OF $68,485.74, BRINGING THE TOTAL APPROVAL TO HUNDRED 53,340 $343.13.

THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL BE FROM CITY STATE INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNT ENDING 54500 AND WITH A BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY POINT $2 MILLION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL IT ALL RIGHT GOT A FIRST AND SECOND BRIAN LAWYERS SO THIS IS AGAIN ONE OF OUR ANNUAL PROGRAMS THIS IS OUR PAVEMENT PRESERVATION THIS IS A MICRO SERVICING CONTRACT WHICH SLURRY PAVERS IT IS SOLE SOURCE THEY'VE DONE THIS I THINK EVERY YEAR THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE A MICRO SERVICING PROGRAM THEY HAVE BEEN THE ONE THAT HAS DONE IT EITHER AS A SUB OR AS A PRIME CONTRACTOR.

WE HAVE PUT THIS OUT FOR COMPETITIVE BID BEFORE AND JUST LIKE THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD THEY WERE THE ONLY BIDDER IN, THE ONLY PERSON THAT WE ARE AWARE OF GEOGRAPHICALLY THAT DOES SO THIS IS AND AGAIN THEIR FEE YOU KNOW FOLLOWS TRENDS WITH WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WITH ADJUSTED INFLATION. SO WE FELT IT WAS FAIR AND REASONABLE IT IS CONTRACT 684 ALMOST 85,000 WITH A 68,000 CONTINGENCY FEE. THIS ONE IS LET'S SEE I IT HERE IS 21 ROADS FOUR AND A HALF MILES RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

[9.g. Approval of a sole source contract to Pavement Technology for Year 9 Asphalt Rejuvenator ($375,372.31) (FISCAL IMPACT: Contract fee for Pavement Technology to apply Reclamite® Asphalt Rejuvenator and A.R.A.1-Ti® Asphalt Rejuvenator will be $341,247.55. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $34,124.76, bringing the total approval to $375,372.31. The funding for this project we be from CTC State Infrastructure account # 2343-30-0000- 54500 with a balance of $3,215,563.33.) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering ]

YES. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW OBJECTION WILL BE MOVE FORWARD MOVING ON TO NON G THE APPROVAL OF A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT TO PAYMENT TECHNOLOGY FOR A NINE YEAR ASPHALT REJUVENATE OR THE FISCAL IMPACT HERE IS A CONTRACT FEE FOR PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGY TO APPLY RECLAIM IT ASPHALT REJUVENATE R AND A OR A ONE TIME ASPHALT REJUVENATE OR WILL $341,247.55 STAFF RECOMMENDS A 10% CONTINGENCY OF $34,124.76, BRINGING THE TOTAL APPROVAL TO $375,372.31. ONCE AGAIN, THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL COME FROM ACCOUNT ENDING 5450 AGAIN WITH APPROXIMATELY $3.2 MILLION IN IT. I MAY HAVE A MOTION SECOND TO PUT THIS ON FOR I'LL MAKE THE MOTION ALL RIGHT. SO FOR THE SECOND ALL RIGHT. SO HERE'S THIS IS OUR ANNUAL ASPHALT REJUVENATION PROGRAM. SO IF THE LAST ONE WAS PRESERVATION WHICH I WOULD EQUATE TO PROBABLY GOING OUT AND SIDING YOUR HOUSE PUT A NEW SIDING ON IT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE EQUIVALENT OF GOING AND PUTTING A NEW COAT OF PAINT OR STAYING ON IS BASICALLY YOU KNOW, TAKING A NEWER ROAD PUTTING THE MINERALS WITH THAT LOST DURING CONSTRUCTION TO EXTEND THAT LIFE. SO FOR THIS ONE IT IS 69 ROADS ABOUT 17 MILES AND THIS IS AGAIN ANNUAL PROGRAM. THIS IS A PROPRIETARY SOLUTION

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SO THAT'S WHY THIS ONE SOLE SOURCE AND AGAIN THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE 341,000 WITH A CONTINGENCY 34,000. AND I WILL ADD THIS IS TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT MIGHT IS THE REGULAR REJUVENATE OR THE RTI THAT IS A REJUVENATED BUT IT HAS TITANIUM DIOXIDE IN IT AND SO THIS IS A REALLY COOL PRODUCT THEY'VE COME OUT WITH THE LAST FEW YEARS TRIAL SINCE USING IT THAT IT WILL TAKE MICROPLASTICS THAT ARE COMING OFF THE ROAD AND ESSENTIALLY I THINK DISSOLVE 80 TO 90% OF MICROPLASTICS SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING INTO THE RUNOFF GOING INTO THE MARSH SO WE'RE USING THIS IN ROADS THAT ARE OUT FALLING INTO THE MARSH OR SOME KIND OF TO KEEP SOME OF THAT OUT. IT SAYS THAT IF YOU TREAT A ROAD ON THIS WILL EVENTUALLY BE NET NEUTRAL CAUSE BECAUSE IT EATS THE CARBON OUT OF THE AIR SO IT'S A REALLY COOL PRODUCT IS MORE EXPENSIVE BUT WE ARE TRYING TO UTILIZE THAT IN AREAS WHERE IT IS LIKE OUTFALL AND DIRECTLY INTO THE MARSH SO THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. SEE YOU NOW.

[9.h. Approval of a contract to AECOM for the SC 170-US 278 Interchange Design ($591,140) (FISCAL IMPACT: The contract fee for design, engineering, and permitting is $537,400. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $53,740. The total expected budget requested is $591,140. The funding for this project is South of Broad Impact Fees Account No. 2300-30- 0000-54500-South, with a balance of $3,849,860.30.) - Bryan Bauer, Director of Engineering ]

LET ME MOVE FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD TO H THE APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT IS A CALM OR HAZY DAY FOR THE SC ONE SEVEN OF US 278 INTERCHANGE DESIGN THE FISCAL IMPACT HERE'S A CONTRACT FEE FOR DESIGN AND ENGINEERING AND PERMITTING IS HUNDRED AND $37,400.

STAFF RECOMMENDS A 10% CONTINGENCY OF $53,740. THE EXPECTED BUDGET REQUESTED IS $591,140. THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT IS SOUTH OF THE BROAD IMPACT FEES WITH THE ACCOUNT ENDING IN 54500 WITH A BALANCE OF THREE APPROXIMATELY $3.8 MILLION.

I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. I'M STUCK IN IT.

I GOT AN URGENT ON THE SECOND SO IT'S IS GOING TO BE ENTERTAINING TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING. U.S. 278 WHERE WE RECENTLY COMPLETED THE NEAR TERM IMPROVEMENTS SO A CALM HAS DONE A COUPLE OF STUDIES OF THAT SECTION 170 AND 278 AND IN THAT STUDY GAVE SHORT TERM NEAR TO OUR SHORT TERM MID-TERM AND LONG TERM RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE 117 YEAR TERM PROJECT WAS THE NEAR-TERM IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS THE NEXT STEP FOR THE MIDTERM IMPROVEMENTS. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIVERGING DIAMOND INTERCHANGE.

THEY HAVE DONE AGAIN THE DESIGN FOR THE NEAR TERM. THEY HAD A LOT OF THE SURVEY ALREADY SO THEY WERE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THEM. THEY WERE ABLE TO THEIR FEE BY ABOUT 10% BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE IN PHASE ONE WITH THE NEAR TERM.

SO THIS IS STAFF THAT WAS FAIR AND REASONABLE AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT STEP AND IMPROVE AREA. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, YEAH. BOMBINGS KIND OF EXPLAIN TO ME EXACTLY I KNOW YOU'VE DONE SOME WORK THERE AND YOU KNOW YOU DID A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT. SO WHAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY HOW IS IT GOING TO LOOK WHEN THIS IS COMPLETED? SO BASICALLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS IS COMPLETED IS THE 278 TRAFFIC'S GOING TO CONTINUE OVER THE INTERCHANGE AND SO UNDERNEATH WHERE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CONFLICTS OF CARS TURNING ACROSS TRAFFIC NOW YOU'RE GOING TO INSTALL TWO SIGNALS AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY PASSING OVER AND DRIVING THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT WAY WHEN YOU GO TO MAKE YOUR LEFT OR RIGHT OFF OF 170 ON TO TWO OUTLET OR AND SAY FOR ACCESS THROUGH THERE ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO DO THE SAME THING AT HIGHWAY 21 AND 95. THEY DID THAT SAME CROSSOVER BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH CONGESTION THERE. THAT'S WHERE THIS ORIGINALLY I'VE SEEN ONE OR TWO OTHER ONES IN THE STATE AND NORTH CAROLINA HAS DONE A FEW SO THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE EARLIER ONES IN SOUTH CAROLINA. SO IT WAS WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IN NORTH CAROLINA THOSE ARE TERRIBLE TO LEARN HOW TO NAVIGATE. YEAH WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? RIGHT.

[9.i. Approval of a change order to O'Quinn Marine Construction Inc for the Melrose Dock Repairs for additional work ($161,315) (FISCAL IMPACT: The change order fee for materials and construction is $146,650. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $14,665. The total expected change order budget requested is $161,315. The funding for this project is from the Melrose Dock A/H award Account No. 2002-10-0000-54500-CIP, with a balance of $1,500,000.00.) - Bryan Bauer, Director or Engineering]

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ALL RIGHT, GET A SECOND ON THAT SECOND? THANK YOU, BRIAN.

SO HERE'S AGAIN THIS IS THE ONE THAT JARED ALLUDED TO EARLIER. I'M SORRY.

OH I'M SORRY THIS ONE THAT JARED ALLUDED TO EARLIER AND SO CAME TO APPROVAL IN NOVEMBER FOR THE ORIGINAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE BASED ON A AN ENGINEERING INSPECTION THAT WAS DONE AND A FEW ITEMS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR USE A PUBLIC FERRY ACCESS AND IT WAS BASICALLY SPOT REPAIRS. IT WAS 30% OF DECKING, 30% OF HANDRAILS, THINGS LIKE THAT. WHEN WE DID THE KICKOFF WITH THE CONTRACTOR WE FELT THAT WE WOULD GET A BETTER LONG TERM GRAVITY AND ON INVESTMENT IF WE REPLACE THE DECKING OR SKINNING ALL THE DECKING AND THE HANDRAILS SO ALL TRIPPING HAZARD SPLINTER HAZARDS THAT WERE THERE WILL BE REPLACED AND SO WE SHOULD GET A LONGER LIFESPAN OUT OF THESE REPAIRS AND GIVE US MORE TIME TO DO ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE WANTING TO DO SO.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD TO KIND OF COUNCIL WITH NO OBJECTION SAYING OBJECTION WILL WE MOVE FORWARD? FINE. OH YEAH. I'M SORRY.

THANKS FOR THIS AS WELL. YOU NOT HAVING OKAY DO WE NEED MOTION THAT YOU GET ON OKAY.

[9.j. An Ordinance authorizing the abandonment of a drainage easement recorded in Deed Book 3695 at Pages 3345-3347 & Deed Book 3695 at Pages 3348-3350 located off Gumwood Drive in northern Lady's Island. (FISCAL IMPACT: N/A) - Bradley Harriott, Public Works Director]

ALL RIGHT, FAIR ENOUGH. MOVING IN TO NON J. THANKS BRIAN NON J AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ABANDONMENT OF A DRAINAGE RECORDED INDEED BUG 36954 PAGES 334523347 INDEED BUG 36954 PAGES 334823350 LOCATED OFF GUM WOOD DRIVE IN NORTHERN LADY'S ISLAND THERE IS NO FISCAL IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. MAY I HAVE A MOTION ON SECOND? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OH, SECOND, THANK YOU.

AND RATHER IT WAS ALL YOURS YES . SO THAT'S JUST AN ABANDONMENT OF EASEMENT AFTER BELIEVE THIS ONE WAS GIVEN TO BOB THERE WAS A BORROW PIT THERE YEARS AGO AND IT WAS JUST SO THEY WERE DRAINING THE BALL PIT. IT HAS NO IMPACT ON COUNTY DRAINAGE. MISS PATTY'S WENT OUT, SPOKE TO THE CITIZENS OUT THERE SO THEY KNOW THEY CARE. IT'S JUST WE'RE JUST ABANDONING THAT EASEMENT.

YEAH. NO, NO, NO, NO IMPACT TO THE DRAINAGE AS WELL EITHER VERNON'S ANY COMMENTS QUESTIONS AREN'T SEEING NONE OF THIS BE MOVE FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL NO WELL YEAH MAYBE FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL WITH NO OBJECTION SAYING NON IT WILL BE FORWARD

[9.k. Approval of a contract to Platinum Paving and Concrete for Asphalt Resurfacing at County convenience centers ($301,628) (FISCAL IMPACT: The total projected cost of the contract is: $301,628. GL Code 4013-80-1340-54500. This was approved in the FY2026 budget. Balance in the account is $1,419,031.) - Bradley Harriott, Public Works Director ]

THIS WAS IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET AND THE BALANCE IS APPROXIMATELY POINT $4 MILLION MAY HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND MOTION MISS. ALL RIGHT.

GOT TO CATCH IT, SIR. OKAY. BRADLEY SAWYERS SO THIS IS JUST OUR MAINTENANCE WORK AT OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS AND YOU CAN SEE THERE THE THERE'S FIVE CENTERS IT'S BLUFFTON CENTER COFFIN POINTE COFFEE , SHELDON AND SAINT HELENA.

THESE ARE JUST MILLING AND ASPHALT RESURFACING STRIPING JUST TO GET THE YOU KNOW, KIND OF GET THESE FACILITIES BACK UP TO PAR AND A LITTLE BIT SAFER AS WELL TOO.

ALL RIGHT. WE ONLY HAD TWO BIDS ON THIS ONE AS WELL, MR. AND MRS. SO I DO A QUESTION. YEAH. SO WILL THIS IMPACT THE OPERATIONS WILL YOU HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN OR DO PEOPLE GO AROUND IT? WHAT'S HAPPENING? NO MA'AM IN THE REQUIREMENTS THEY ASKED THE CENTERS HAVE TO STAY OPEN DURING CONSTRUCTION SO IT WILL NOT IMPACT OPERATIONS BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO GET. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE DONE HERE IN THOSE DAYS. THE CENTERS ARE CLOSED. THEY MAY COME IN AND DO SOME MILLING AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE MAYBE OPEN THEM BACK UP AND THEN IF THEY CLOSE AGAIN THEY MAY HAVE TO DO SOME NIGHT WORK AS WELL TOO. BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO BE OPEN.

OH OKAY GREAT. JUST MOVE AROUND OUT OF YOUR ONE.

JUST SIMPLE QUESTION IS THIS DONE BECAUSE OF WEAR AND TEAR YES, MA'AM.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THIS INCLUDES EXCUSE ME HILTON HEAD. WELL, NO SIR.

THIS DOES NOT KNOW SIR. I DIDN'T SEE THAT NO IT'S IT'S IT'S ON THE LIST I'M SURE IT WAS SIR. SIR. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS SAYING NOTHING THAT'S BEEN MOVED FORWARD TO COUNTY

[9.l. Approval of a contract to Black & Veatch for Arthur Horne Wetland Restoration Project Design ($491,370) (FISCAL IMPACT: The fee for this project is $446,700. Staff recommends a 10% contingency of $44,670, bringing the project total to $491,370. This project will be funded through the Stormwater Utility Fund Account #5025-90-9010-51160 with an available balance of $657,727.13.) - Jacob Bratz, Stormwater Project Manager, and Taylor Brewer, Stormwater Manager]

SAYING NO OBJECTION BE MOVED FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL MOVING INTO NON ELM APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT TO BLACK AND VEATCH I GUESS AS I SEE IT FOR ARTHUR HORNE WETLAND RESTORATION PROJECT DESIGN THE FEE FOR THIS PROJECT $446,700 AND STAFF RECOMMENDS A 10% CONTINGENCY $44,670 BRINGING THE PROJECT TOTAL TO $491,370. THIS PROJECT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE STORMWATER UTILITY FUND ACCOUNT ENDING IN 51160 WITH AN AVAILABLE BALANCE OF HUNDRED $57,000 720 657 $720,000. I CAN SPEAK I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, MOVE THIS FORWARD FIRST, SECOND AND SECOND.

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A BATHROOM PARK IS A 13 ACRE WETLAND IN PORT ROYAL THAT DISCHARGES INTO BATTERY CREEK IDENTIFIED AS 303D IMPAIRED WATER FOR SHELLFISH CAUSED BY FECAL COLIFORM BY BACTERIA CONTAMINATION THE SCOPE OF THIS COVERS DESIGN AND PERMITTING TO RESTORE STORMWATER FUNCTION REDUCE CONTAMINATION AND CREATE A COMMUNITY AMENITY BY ADDING A BOARDWALK THAT CIRCLES PART OF THE SITE TO PROMOTE NATURE WALKS BIRDING AND WILDLIFE VIEWING INCLUDING THOUGHTFULLY PLACED EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE TO EXPLAIN STORMWATER FEATURES. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT? I'M JUST GLAD TO SEE THIS PROJECT GOING FORWARD THAT WAS DESTROYED DURING HURRICANE MATTHEW HOWEVER MANY YEARS THAT WAS AGO 1310 YEARS AGO. I THINK OF THE ART WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

COMMENT CAN THIS BE MOVED FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL WITH NO OBJECTION SEEING NO OBJECTION WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD TO CAN'T MOVE FORWARD TO COUNTY COUNCIL IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE SEEING NON THIS MEETING IS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.