Jan 12, 2026 County Council

REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. THERE'S STILL SOME ITEMS TO DISCUSS.

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AND THEN I WANT TO INTRODUCE WHO'S GOING TO DO OUR THANK YOU I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC FOR RELIGIOUS STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PLEASE REMAIN STANDING.

AND WE HAVE AN INVOCATION BY MY MINISTER FROM CARTER STREET UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

HIS NAME IS REVEREND BRYSON WILLIAMS. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THIS VERY QUICKLY. I WAS IN ISRAEL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND THEY HAVE A MUSEUM THAT SITS RIGHT RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE THE KNESSET MEETS AND IN THAT IN THAT MUSEUM THEY HAVE THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS AND THESE 2000 YEAR OLD DOCUMENTS FROM BEFORE THE TIME OF CHRIST THAT WERE PROBABLY WRITTEN WITH THE FINGER OF GOD THAT INFORMS THOSE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT MAKE THE LAWS AND ENFORCE THE LAWS AND THAT'S IMPORTANT ALL OF US TO REMEMBER THAT THOSE LAWS ARE GIVEN TO US SO THAT WE WOULD LIVE IN PEACE AND WE WOULD LIVE IN COMMUNITY AND INTER WOULD BE JUSTICE EQUALITY FOR EVERYBODY.

LET US PRAY THE LORD WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR EVERYONE GATHERED HERE TONIGHT GOD MAY WE USE OUR VOICES SO WE ALL LIVE TOGETHER IN HARMONY THAT MIGHT ALL LIVE TOGETHER IN PEACE THAT WE WOULD BE A COMMUNITY WHICH WELCOMES EVERYONE AND HAS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYBODY GOD. MAY WE BE A COMMUNITY THAT VALUES LIFE, THAT OFFERS OPPORTUNITY AND EDUCATION FOR EACH PERSON. GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO COME SERVE ON COUNTY COUNCIL GOD MAY THEY FEEL YOUR PRESENCE AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS LORD AS WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR SERVICE TONIGHT WE ALSO APPRECIATE JON ABNEY IN HIS SERVICE WITH VETERANS AND APPRECIATE THE WORK HE HAS DONE .

GOD MAY YOU BLESS HIM AND KEEP IN MIND ALL HE DOES LORD IN THIS NEW YEAR MAY WE APPROACH WITH NEW OPPORTUNITY LORD THE CHANCE TO LIVE TOGETHER AS YOU WOULD HAVE US WE PRAY WE THIS AND THANK YOU GOD AMEN. AMEN. I MEAN THANK YOU VERY OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM WITH OUR COUNTY CLERK THAT THIS MEETING WAS ADVERTISED IN COMPLIANCE

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

IT WAS ALL RIGHT. MOVING ALONG, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF AGENDA SO MOVED A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN A SECOND. I HEARD A SECOND SECOND FROM JERROLD FROM COUNCILMAN ALL IN FAVOR OF A SHOW OF HANDS. THE AGENDA IS APPROVED.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[6. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]

HE WAS HIRED AS AN EMT BASIC AND ACHIEVED GOAL BECOMING A PARAMEDIC SHORTLY AFTER HE ADVANCED HIS CAREER BECOMING FIELD TRAINING OFFICER AND CURRENTLY SERVES AS BEAUFORT COUNTY SERVES COUNTY AS A PARAMEDIC CREW CHIEF HE'S ALSO THE RECIPIENT OF EMS PROFESSIONAL OF THE YEAR IN 2012 WHEN HE'S NOT WORKING HE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH HIS AND FISHING. SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE VERY MUCH YEAH LICENSE AND WE'LL GET A QUICK CONNECT THEN SPEAK VERY GOOD THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE RECOGNITION.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK OKAY.

NEXT WE HAVE MICHAEL TANSEY A CORPORAL WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH 20 YEARS OF SERVICE . OKAY SO HAS WORKED IN VARIOUS POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE AGENCY HE BEGAN HIS CAREER AS A PATROL OFFICER ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND WORKED AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE HIS RESOURCE OFFICER AND THEN TRANSITIONED TO HIS CURRENT POSITION AS A CIVIL PROCESSOR AND JUDGMENT OFFICER. ADDITIONALLY HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CRISIS NEGOTIATION TEAM FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND HIS OFF TIME MICHAEL ENJOYS WATCHING AND PLAYING HOCKEY IN A LOCAL LEAGUE IN SAVANNAH SO IT'S AWESOME. IT'S A GREAT EDUCATION.

THANK YOU. HE DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK YOU TO MAKE A COMMENT LIKE NO.

OKAY SO NEXT WE HAVE KURT. KURT CORRECTION CORNICK CORPORAL A SHERIFF'S OFFICE WITH 30 YEARS OF SERVICE HE SERVED SO KURT BEGAN HIS TIME AS A PATROL OFFICER IN HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THEN TRANSITIONED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISION WHERE HE WORKED AT THE THAT AIRPORT PRIOR TO BEING ASSIGNED TO THE CIVIL PROCESS SECTION.

HIS OFF TIME ENJOYS WATCHING COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND PULLING FOR HIS FAVORITE TEAM THE NEBRASKA CORNHUSKERS. HE ALSO CLASSIC CARS AND CAN BE SEEN AROUND HILTON HEAD AND HIS GRANDFATHER'S FORD MODEL A SO I'LL BE LOOKING ALSO SO CONGRATULATIONS YOU ALSO THINK SO THANKS FOR THE SHERIFF WHEN I FIRST STARTED I HAD A BEAUTIFUL HEAD OF HAIR.

NOW YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED . THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN TIME OKAY . OKAY.

NEXT WE HAVE RETIREMENT RECOGNITION. WE HAVE ERIC VALENTINE LIEUTENANT WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR 25 YEARS OF SERVICE YOU CAN NOT RETIRE.

SO ERIC RETIRED IN DECEMBER 2025 FOR A DISTINGUISHED 25 YEAR CAREER BUT TO BE FOR COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE MOST RECENTLY SERVING AS LIEUTENANT OVER SOUTHERN INVESTIGATIONS, HIS WORK FOCUSED ON FRAUD PREVENTION, ELDER SAFETY AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION LEADING INITIATIVES THAT PROTECTED VULNERABLE CITIZENS RESIDENTS FROM SCAMS AND, FINANCIAL

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ORIGINALLY FROM PITTSBURGH, PITTSFORD NEW YORK, HIS DEVOTED FAMILY MAN WITH TWO CHILDREN TO YOUR LABS AND FOLLOWING RETIREMENT HE TRANSITIONED TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND NOW FOR GULFSTREAM. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND I WILL TELL YOU MR. MORRISON SAID IS IN MOURNING THAT HE IS I THINK YOU'VE DONE HALF OF THE HALF FOR YOUR 70 SOMETHING WE'RE INCENTED ABSOLUTELY SO THIS MAN IS FABULOUS FOR SCAMS SO CONGRATULATIONS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH WAS IT WAS UP HERE A FEW MONTHS AGO RIGHT GETTING RECOGNITION BUT THANK YOU ALL AGAIN WHAT A WONDERFUL CAREER WORKING FOR THE COUNTY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE VERY THANKFUL THAT P.J. TAYLOR, THE SHERIFF THROUGHOUT MY CAREER OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DONE A VERY MANY THINGS HAVE MEANT A LOT TO A LOT OF YOU AND THE COUNCIL THROUGHOUT MY TIME HERE ESPECIALLY WITH SCAMS AND FRAUDS IT'S STILL A PASSION OF MINE. I'M LOOKING TO GET BACK INTO IT ONCE.

I GET ADJUSTED TO MY NEW JOB BUT I STILL THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO WHEN IT COMES THESE TYPE OF ISSUES WE'RE HAVING WITH THIS GAMES AND FRAUD SO I'M VERY HALF OF MY CAREER. I TALK ABOUT COUNTY ALL THE TIME OF GULFSTREAM HOW HAPPY I WAS WHEN I WORKED HERE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WHAT THE COUNTY HAS FOR YOU KNOW, FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS FOR US HERE. SO THANK AGAIN FOR EVERYBODY I'M GOING TO MISS DEFINITELY SOME PEOPLE THAT I'VE SEEN ALL THE TIME BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO AND THE EFFORTS AND YOUR SERVING AS WELL. SO THANK YOU ALL AND APPRECIATE THIS. THANK THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE SHEILA HUDSON CIVIL COURT SUPERVISOR WITH THE MAGISTRATE COURT WITH 26 YEARS OF SERVICE FISHER TAUGHT MY DAUGHTER DAUGHTER ALL RIGHT GREAT. WHAT'S HER NAME? OKAY, WELCOME.

SO PLEASE JOIN US AND CELEBRATE SHEILA AS SHE RETIRES AFTER 26 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE SHE BEGAN HER COUNTY CAREER WITH A DISABILITY AND SPECIAL NEEDS DEPARTMENT NOVEMBER 1999 AND THEN TRANSFERRED TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT JULY 2007 AND THE TRAFFIC AND CIVIL DEPARTMENT WITHIN JUST ONE YEAR SHE ACHIEVED AN UNPRECEDENTED PROMOTION TO TEAM LEADER OF THE CIVIL DEPARTMENT THROUGHOUT HER CAREER SHEILA BECAME THE COURT'S EXPERT IN ALL MATTERS RELATED TO CIVIL OPERATIONS AND WAS A TRUSTED RESOURCE FOR BOTH STAFF AND JUDGES.

SHE TRAINED AND MENTORED TEAM MEMBERS EARNING UNIVERSAL RESPECT FOR PROFESSIONALISM KNOWLEDGE AND EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE. SHEILA'S CONTRIBUTION AND POSITIVE PRESENCE WILL BE DEEPLY MISSED AND WE WISH HER ALL THE BEST.

HER WELL-EARNED RETIREMENT CONGRATULATIONS TO VERY BRIEFLY I WOULD JUST LIKE TO IT HAS BEEN INDEED AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY AND TO WORK ALONGSIDE ALONGSIDE SOME AMAZING PEOPLE ONE BEING LAWRENCE THANK YOU.

YES, IT'S JUST BEEN AMAZING. I WILL MISS MIS SERVING THE PEOPLE OF BEAUFORT COUNTY BUT STAY TUNED. OKAY. NEXT WE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR VETERANS AFFAIRS EMPLOYEES SO IF WE HAVE DR. FURMAN AND JOHN ABNEY IF THEY'RE HERE THEY VARIOUS DR. FURMAN SHOULD HAVE A PERMANENT SEAT. YEAH WE RECOGNIZE HER ALL THE

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DR. FURMAN WAS RECOGNIZED FOR EFFORTS AND CONTRIBUTION CONTRIBUTIONS INCLUDING HER UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO REVITALIZING THE COUNTY'S VETERANS AFFAIRS AND SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCE SUPPORTS FOR VETERANS. HER IMPLEMENTATION OF PROGRAMS SUCH AS OF LIFE PLANNING SEMINARS AND VET WILL CLINICS HAVE BROUGHT ABOUT SIGNIFICANT TRANSFORMATION VETERANS SERVICE OFFICER VERY SERVICE OFFICER JOHN ABNEY WAS FOR HIS OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS, STRONG LEADERSHIP AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO OUR VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY 20 YEAR RETIRED MASTER SERGEANT FROM THE MARINE CORPS JOHN WORKED TIRELESSLY TO BREAK INTO THE MARINE CORPS TRANSITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND HE HAS TRANSFORMED THE DEPARTMENT'S ROLE AS SPEAKERS IN BOTH THE TRANSITION IN A SEMINAR AND THE SPOUSE TRANSITION ASSISTANCE READINESS SEMINAR.

SEAN'S DEDICATION SUPPORTING AND DELIVERING QUARTERLY BENEFITS DELIVERY AND DISCHARGE CLAIMS CLINICS ABOARD OUR THREE INSTALLATIONS HAS SET A NEW STANDARD IN VETERAN ASSISTANCE BY PROVIDING DIRECT ASSISTANCE WITH VETERAN BENEFITS TO THOSE PREPARING TO LEAVE THE SERVICE.

THESE CLINICS ARE SIGNIFICANT ENHANCE THE SPEED AND EFFICIENCY OF CLAIMS PROCESSING ESTABLISH PROACTIVE STANDARD OF VETERAN SUPPORT IN OUR STATE AND HAVING TRANSITIONED RECENTLY I CAN ATTEST TO THE WORK THEY'RE DOING IS SO IMPORTANT TO WHEN FOLKS LEAVE THE SERVICE THEY'RE THEY'RE ALREADY GETTING THEIR BENEFITS FROM THE VA SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AND YOU. SO ANY COMMENTS YOU LIKE TO ME ? YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT JOHN ABNEY OF THE HUNDREDS OF VSOS THAT WE HAVE IN THE STATE OVER THE 46 COUNTIES JOHN HAS BECOME NUMBER ONE VSO. IF YOU ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE HAD AN FROM COUNTY THIS IS SIGNIFICANT. THE REASON I RECOMMENDED JOHN THIS YEAR WAS FOR THAT WORK THAT HE DID TRYING TO GET US ON THE BASIS WITH 11 SERVICE MEMBERS SEPARATING EACH YEAR WE ABLE TO NOT ONLY TAKE CARE OF THEM AS THEY TRANSITION BUT HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME OF THEM RETAINED TO WORK IN OUR COUNTY WORKFORCE. SO JOHN HAS DONE JUST INCREASED WORK TO WHERE THEY WERE WANTING TO CHARGE US $250 TO BE AT ONE OF THESE TRANSITIONS.

NOW WE GET 15 TO 30 MINUTES TO TALK TO ALL OF THE SERVICE MEMBERS THAT ARE RETIRING, SEPARATING AND JUST ONE LAST DATA POINT IN THE LAST YEAR FROM THIS PAST STEP WHY WE HAVE INCREASED OUR CLAIMS PRODUCTION BY 1100 PERCENT WHICH HAS BROUGHT IN OVER $8 MILLION TO THE COUNTY AND NOW I WANT TO SAY BASICALLY I WISH I COULD TAKE CREDIT BUT I CAN TELL YOU CAROLINE HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER A GREAT TEAM HERE WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY VETERANS AFFAIRS.

SHE HAS ACTUALLY OPENED DOORS THAT WAS CLOSED TO US SHE HAS BROUGHT ON STAFF TO BRING ABOUT THAT CHANGE BECAUSE WE CONSIDER OURSELVES NOT ONLY FAMILY BUT A TEAM THAT HAVE CAME TOGETHER AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF ALL VETERANS NOT ONLY THE RETIRED VETERANS BUT ALSO THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THOSE VETERANS.

THE PROGRAMS THAT SHE HAS IMPLEMENTED THROUGHOUT BEAUFORT COUNTY.

I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SUPPORTING BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT THE VETERANS AND THEIR SO WHAT WE DO IS NOT WORK FOR US. THIS IS A CALLING, THIS IS A SERVICE SO WE HAVE PLEASURE OF SERVING BEAUFORT COUNTY AND ALL THAT WE DO THAT. SO NOT ONLY DO WE THANK COUNTY COUNCIL MR. MOORE FOR HIS SUPPORT BUT ALSO OUR FAMILIES AND EVERYONE THAT PLAYS A PART IN WHAT WE DO FOR. BEAUFORT COUNTY AND FINALLY I WANT TO ALSO THANK MY FAMILY AND THAT CAME OUT TO SUPPORT ME ON TONIGHT BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO DO WHAT WE DO AND WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SUPPORT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN WE GET TO YOU AND I CAN K

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HE'S NEW TO THE AREA IF YOU COME ON UP HERE HE IS CHIEF DAVID HEINEMAN HAS MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF FIRE EXPERIENCE BEGINNING HIS CAREER AS A JUNIOR FIREFIGHTER FIREFIGHTER AT AGE 16 HE HAS SERVED MULTIPLE OPERATIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE LEADERSHIP ROLES MOST RECENTLY OVERSEEING OPERATIONS FOR GREENVILLE CITY FIRE CHIEF I'M AND HOLDS BOTH A MASTER'S OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN FIRE SERVICES ADMINISTRATION FROM WALDORF UNIVERSITY. HE'S A GRADUATE OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE FIREFIGHTERS ASSOCIATION INSTITUTE AND THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY'S EXECUTIVE FIRE OFFICER PROGRAM AND HOLDS THE CHIEF FIRE OFFICER CREDENTIAL THROUGH THE COMMISSION ON FIRE ACCREDITATION INTERNATIONAL. HE'S CURRENTLY PURSUING A PH.D.

IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION AND HOLDS EXTENSIVE STATE AND NATIONAL FIRE SERVICE CERTIFICATIONS. SO HE COMES HIGHLY QUALIFIED TO THIS POSITION.

WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE, CHIEF, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVING WITH YOU SO THANK YOU.

ANY COMMENTS YOU LIKE TO ME? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE AND I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH CHIEF CHURCH STANDING IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM HE'S DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH THE ORGANIZATION OVER THE PAST YEAR SERVING AS THE INTERIM AND THE ENTIRE STAFF JUST MADE THIS TRANSITION SO MUCH BETTER SO I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE STAFF AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH, YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVE LAW AND COUNSEL SO THAT YOU CAN FOCUS APPRECIATE AND COME THIS MORNING I'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE CHIEF SINCE I'M IN SUN CITY BLUFFTON AREA AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU RECOGNIZE DEREK CHURCH SERVING AS THE INTERIM HE DID DO A REALLY GOOD JOB BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE FILLING SOME BIG SHOES AND YOU'VE GOT A GREAT FIRE DISTRICT. I WISH YOU LUCK AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ANY OF US CAN DO, YOU CALL US. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO I INVITE MR. JOHN O'TOOLE UP PENDING ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY OR MAY HAVE FOR ME? NO QUESTIONS. OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND MR. TAYLOR WOULD, YOU LIKE FOR US TO WAIT TILL THE END TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS? WOULD THAT BE WHENEVER WHENEVER IT MOVES YOU I'M READY FOR I THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE I WAS TOLD I HAVE 10 MINUTES TO PRESENT. I WILL HONOR THAT.

IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU AND IT'S REALLY NICE FOLLOWING ALL THAT RECOGNITION I HOPE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CAN MEASURE UP TO ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THE LAST TWO WEEKS WERE LIKE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UP UNTIL ABOUT 640 ON NEW YEAR'S EVE WE WERE WORKING WITH A COMPANY INVESTING $35 MILLION IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THEY WERE THEY NEEDED IN ORDER AVOID SOME $8 MILLION IN LIQUIDATED COSTS . WE NEEDED TO GET THAT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY EVERYONE ON THE PROJECT WORK REALLY WELL.

I'LL JUST TELL YOU ABOUT KELLY BRUNSON, OUR SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER.

SHE HAPPENED TO KNOW THE FIRE CHIEF'S FATHER FROM MANNING, SOUTH CAROLINA AND SHE WE NEEDED SIGNOFF BY THE STATE FIRE FIRE FIRE MARSHAL I'M SORRY.

AND SO SHE WAS ABLE TO FIND OUT HE WAS OUT OF STATE AND THEN GOT THIS CELL PHONE NUMBER THE DEPUTY AND EVERYTHING TOOK PLACE ANOTHER LITTLE PROJECT WE WORKED ON SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS SUGGESTED YOU KNOW WITH THE ELECTION IN NEW THERE MIGHT BE COMPANIES OR INVESTORS THAT MAY WANT TO LOOK SOUTH CAROLINA AT THE SAME TIME. ONE OF OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SAID, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO THERE WAS THIS GREAT MOVE BY FINANCIAL FIRMS TO TAMPA AND THEY'RE REALLY NOT THAT DOWN IN FLORIDA. SO ON FRIDAY, KELLY AGAIN APPLIED FOR A GRANT WITH ONE OF OUR PARTNERS FOR $10,000 TO DO SOME WHAT THEY CALLED GEOFENCE BUT DIGITAL MARKETING VERY PINPOINT MARKETING TO THOSE TARGETS OUR BROAD OUR BOARD MEMBERS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND MONDAY MORNING THE GRANT WAS APPROVED AND NETWORK IS ONGOING THIS PAST FRIDAY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE CONTACTED US INDIRECTLY WARREN PARKER AND THE BEAUFORT REGIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE ON THE COAST GUARD PROJECT YOU

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SO BRIAN TOOK ALL OF THIS INPUT AND MADE A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION OUT OF IT AND TOMORROW BRIAN WILL BE PRESENTING A SITE IN THE COMMERCE PARK LIFE SCIENCES COMPANY. SO THAT'S A LITTLE SNAPSHOT OF ONE OF THE DOLLAR TWO WEEK PERIODS IN THE YEAR THAT WE JUST LIVED THROUGH YOU KNOW COMING OUT OF NEW YEARS AS WE GO FORWARD MOST OF YOU ARE ACQUAINTED WITH OUR BOARD BUT. I, I WOULD WEIGH IN BACK YOU YOU GO BACK DURING THE MOST CHALLENGING OKAY THANK YOU THANK YOU.

AND SO OUR BOARD IS VERY ENGAGED WHAT WE'RE DOING WE'LL SEE IF I GO THE RIGHT DIRECTION HERE GETTING BACK I'M GOING TO STOP WHAT I ATTEMPT TO DO I CAN GET PAST THE CLICKER TODAY IS TO DESCRIBE TO YOU OUR JOURNEY I MAY HAVE GIVE THIS UP BUT TO DESCRIBE OUR JOURNEY TALK ABOUT OUR STRATEGY ACTIVITY SNAPSHOT AND THEN RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND OVERCOME YOUR FEAR OF ME BECAUSE I CAN'T OPERATE A CLICKER AND SO WITH THAT I TEND TO HIT IT TOO MANY TIMES IT'S YOU I THINK IT'S BECAUSE IT'S FURTHER BACK THIS WAY. OKAY.

YOU JUST NEXT WE'LL DO IT. OKAY? SUPER, SUPER HANDS FREE.

SO IT JUST IN TERMS OF OUR MISSION IT'S KIND OF OUTLINED IN OUR BYLAWS AND BUSINESS ATTRACTION, BUSINESS RECRUITING AND MARKETING DATA AGGREGATION TRYING TO COORDINATE MEETINGS TO NEGOTIATE INVESTMENTS, INCENTIVES DEVELOP WORKFORCE AND FUNDRAISING AND WITH THAT GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH OUR OUR BUT AS YOU ALL HEAR WHETHER IT WAS GETTING THAT COMPANY A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OR THE SUBMITTAL TO HOMELAND SECURITY WE HAVE TO GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS TO COLLABORATE AND ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ATTRACT INVESTMENT, BUILD TAX BASE SO YOU CAN PROVIDE MANY OF THE SERVICES THAT RESIDENTS EXPECT OF YOU. NEXT SLIDE AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPETING FORCES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. YOU GOT HOUSING DEVELOPERS, COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL CONSERVATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PRESENT ON THIS CANVAS. BEAUFORT SPOTS THAT TUCK IN NICELY WHERE. PEOPLE CAN MAKE A LIVING AND PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILY IN A DIGNIFIED WAY. NEXT SLIDE. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT BUT I DON'T THINK IT IT'S REPEATED TOO MUCH. THESE ARE SPOKES OUR BALANCE WHEEL ENVIRONMENT. ENVIRONMENT IS PARAMOUNT. EDUCATION AND THEN THE REST OF THESE PIECES FIT TOGETHER AND I KNOW THIS COUNCIL DOES A LOT IN THIS SPACE.

NEXT SLIDE IN TERMS OF OUR TARGETS OUR TARGETS ARE OUR ALL CLEAN INDUSTRY.

WE'VE STUCK WITH THESE. WE GET GREAT INPUT. YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, CYBERSECURITY IS ONE THAT'S KIND OF EMERGING VERY QUICKLY IN BEAUFORT COUNTY BUT WE'VE DONE OVER 100 PROJECTS AND HAVEN'T BEEN OUT OF SYNC WITH NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP YET.

NEXT NEXT SLIDE WHEN YOU LOOK AT FOR SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU MAY NOT REMEMBER BUT PRIOR TO US FORMED IN 2017 BEAUFORT HAD TRIED THROUGH A REALLY THE LATE 1900S SOUNDS LIKE A LONG TIME TO DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS FOLLOWED OR ORGANIZATIONS KIND OF FAILED SOME OF THEM LEFT BANKS HOLDING THE BAG ON ON DEBT AND WE TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT. BUT IN 2017 BOBBY HITT SPOKE TO THE COUNTY AND SAID BEAUFORT, YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE IN 46 THAT DOESN'T HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. YOU SHOULD FORM AN ORGANIZATION WE'LL TRY TO SHOW YOU WE WILL SHOW YOUR RESULTS TONIGHT BASED ON THAT 2017 BOTH I WAS HIRED AND THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS

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THOSE INVESTMENTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND DEPARTMENT OF AG AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE ADDED UP TO 2020 I'M SORRY 3.9 MILLION AND THEN SPONSORSHIPS WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING ABOUT 35,000 A YEAR. NEXT SLIDE I GOT A MINUTE AND A HALF SO I BETTER TALK QUICK.

I'LL JUST YOU THROUGH THE BEAUFORT COMMERCE PARK. BUT NEXT SLIDE.

WE ARE ENTERTAINING AN INVESTMENT A GROUP THAT WANTS TO BUY 32 ACRES IN THE PARK.

WE HAVE A COMPANY OUT OF NEW YORK THAT'S LOOKING AT A 15,000 SQUARE FOOT PAD.

THE COMPANY THE LAND IS ALSO GOING TO CONTRIBUTE MILLION DOLLARS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORP TO BRING THIS BUILDING OUT OF THE GROUND. AND WE HAVE A GROUP OUT OF BLUFFTON THAT'S LOOKING TO DO THAT. NEXT SLIDE JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE FLYOVER OVER THE COUNTY. LATER THIS WEEK WE'LL BE VISITING WITH SCIENTISTS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA TO LOOK AT WHAT'S CALLED RECIRCULATED AQUATIC AQUATIC SYSTEMS. AND THIS IS INDOOR AS A POTENTIAL AND WE ALSO HAVE A GROUP INTERESTED IN MEAT PROCESSING AT THE BE CO SITE. NEXT SLIDE.

I'VE GOT 40 SECONDS. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS BUT THE THE PROJECT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THAT AT THE NAVAL HOSPITAL, IF IT WENT FORWARD WOULD BE $300 MILLION A YEAR IN ECONOMIC IMPACT. THIS AREA OVER 2000 JOBS AND PAYROLL JUST SOUTH OF 35 MILLION. NEXT SLIDE AND YOU'VE SEEN SOME THESE BEFORE. WE HAVE A HEALTH CARE COMPANY THAT ANNOUNCED ON THE CLASSIC MOTOR SITE ON HILTON HEAD. NEXT SLIDE I'VE GOT 6 SECONDS. WE ARE WE JUST WE'RE SPEAKING TO THE FOLKS AT LOAN PALMETTO ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE A WHILE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A LETTER OF INTENT THAT WE'LL BRING TO THIS COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE THESE ARE OUR SCORECARDS FOR LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR WAS A BIG YEAR BASED ON HEALTH CARE INVESTMENTS IN COUNTY. GREAT FOR JOBS.

NEXT SLIDE WE KEEP TRACK OF OUR CUMULATIVE RESULTS SO WE HOPE WHEN YOU THINK OF THE $8 MILLION YOU INVESTED YOU'RE JUST UNDER $900 MILLION IN INVESTMENTS BACK INTO THE COUNTY. ONE THING I WANT EVEN IF I RUN A LITTLE OVER AND I HOPE YOU'LL FORGIVE A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT $28 MILLION AND THEY WANT US INVESTIGATED BY THE GENTLEMAN YOU JUST THAT $28 MILLION IS NOT BEAUFORT COUNTY MONEY.

THAT'S THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE PROVIDING INCENTIVES ONLY 1.4 THAT WAS LOCAL INCENTIVES. SO A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DO QUICK MATH AND SAY $28 MILLION TO ATTRACT 3000 JOBS THAT THAT DOESN'T MAKE DOLLARS AND CENTS. IT'S A BAD INVESTMENT.

WHAT THESE COMPANIES ARE GETTING OFTEN TIME TO JOB DEVELOPMENT CREDITS.

THEY'RE WITHHOLDING TAX RETURN TO THEM BECAUSE THE STATE WANTS TO INCENTIVIZE THE INVESTMENT OR JOB TAX CREDITS IS THE BIGGEST PART OF THAT NEXT SLIDE AND I WILL STOP IT WAS MENTIONED THAT YOU KNOW THE WAGES AND SO IN THE YEAR WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW OR THE LAST FIVE YEARS WE'VE COME FROM 45,000 PER AVERAGE JOB THE YEAR WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT 71,000.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREND THERE IT'S GOOD. NEXT SLIDE IF YOU COMPARE US TO OTHER MARKETS SINCE 2020 AND I DO WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS BECAUSE IF YOU WIND BACK TO WHERE I STARTED THE PRESENTATION OF WORKING OVER THE WEEKEND TO GET A NET ECONOMIC IMPACT. SO YOU'RE STILL IN THE RACE AND YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GOVERNOR OR IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BY NEW YEAR'S EVE

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OKAY, NEXT SLIDE I'M GOING TO STOP HERE BUT WHAT I WANT YOU TO KNOW IS IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS STRATEGIC FOCUS AND AS WE LOOK INTO THE NEXT YEAR AND DELIVER IN ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WITH COUNTY LAST TIME I SPOKE HERE WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING A STRATEGIC SESSION ON MARCH 5TH WHERE WE'LL HAVE THIS COUNCIL AND ALL OF THE TOWN COUNCILS AND ADMINISTRATORS IN A ROOM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IS WORKING, WHAT YOU THINK NOT WORKING, WHAT WE NEED TO REFOCUS ON AS DID WITH THE USE OF THE SITE FUNDS WE CAN SIT DOWN AND WE CAN HEY WE WANT TO WE WANT TO HAVE THESE GUARDRAILS ON WHAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON BUT WE DO CONSIDER OURSELVES IN A CLIENT A CLIENT ROLE YOU AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RESPONSIVE TO WHAT COUNCIL EXPECTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS.

NO QUESTIONS. NO COMMENT. YES, SIR.

AND COMPLIMENT JOHN AND THE STAFF. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

THEY DO I THINK THE TALENT TO COME TO THE AREA AND THEY HAVE THEY WORK HARD THEY DON'T HAVE A BIG STAFF OPERATING AND THEY HAVE INCREDIBLE ADULATION. SEAN AND KELLY AND EVERYBODY OVER THERE DOING THIS GREAT WORK. THANK YOU.

YES SIR. COUNSEL THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN JOHN THANK YOU.

THANK YOU AS WELL YOU MENTIONED, A COMPANY FROM NEW YORK WANTING TO COME INTO THE WHAT KIND OF WORK ARE THEY LOOKING TO BRING THEY DO CERAMIC PIECES FOR INDUSTRY CERAMICS. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU. I KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORKED IN YOUR WORK TO SEND YOUR STAFF ON THE CALL THE NAVAL HOSPITAL POSSIBILITY OVER THE HOLIDAYS AND THEN AGAIN THIS PAST DAY OR SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT'S GREAT AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE STILL IN THE RUNNING SO YES. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

OKAY, IT'S BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO US SO I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT. WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF THAT. ALL RIGHT.

YES, COUNCILMAN, GETTING TOGETHER TO ASK IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP ON THAT FRONT? YOU'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL. YOUR CHAIR HAS BEEN SUBMITTING LETTERS YOUR MILITARY ENHANCEMENT COMMITTEE BEEN PROVIDING GREAT LEADERSHIP IF IF IF YOU WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS, IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW ALL THESE PEOPLE FROM YOU KNOW AND COLONEL PARKER PUT IT REALLY WELL HE SAID HE SAID OR ACTUALLY IT MAY HAVE BEEN MEGHAN MORRIS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SAID EVERYONE PUT THEIR EGOS TO THE SIDE AND AND AND MADE THINGS HAPPEN SO I WOULD JUST INVITE YOU TO JOIN US MAYBE VISIT WITH A COMPANY IN YOUR DISTRICT WOULD BE REALLY SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT IN THERE INTERACTING ON AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT AND I WOULD JUST SAY ANOTHER YOU COULD DO AS LONG AS YES IS TRY TO CLEAR YOUR SCHEDULE ON THE FIFTH WE'LL GET A SAVE THE DATE OUT COME COME WITH WHATEVER GRIEVANCES CONCERNS WHATEVER EXCITES YOU ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MAYBE AS MARCH 5TH IS COMING UP YOU'LL LOOK AT NOTICE THE PAPER WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING OR OTHER STATES DOING AND BRING THOSE IDEAS AND WE'LL HAVE A REAL RICH CONVERSATION MARCH 5TH. THE CHAIRMAN JUST ONE MORE COMMENT THE HEALTH INSTITUTE OR MEDICAL BUILDING THAT MIDDLE ISLAND THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE ARE VERY PLEASED TO HEAR ABOUT THAT. SO THANK YOU.

AND THEN NOT TWO IN THE LAST DISTANCE WE HAD ANOTHER MEDICAL CENTER SOUTH AND SO PEOPLE ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. YES.

YEAH. IN MEETING MARCH 5TH WILL BE DO YOU KNOW THE LOCATION DETERMINE WE'LL HAVE A LARGE MEETING ON I WANT TO THANK YOU I WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY YOU CAME TO US IN 2017. I SERVED AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE GOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE AND WE SET UP THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THEN WE LATER BROUGHT YOU ON BOARD AS AN

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WELL THAT'S THAT A $7.3 MILLION INVESTMENT AND ABOUT 50 EMPLOYEES MAKING TOP DOLLAR AND SO YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ENCOURAGE WE SUPPORT YOU IN WHATEVER YOU NEED FOR MUCH. JUST LET US KNOW. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU THANK YOU AGAIN I'M SORRY I RAN A LITTLE LONG FOR US.

NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS A DISCUSSION OF FUNDING TO RE IMPLEMENT THE DISCOUNTED FEE SCHEDULE FOR QUALIFIED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MR. CHUCK ATKINSON'S GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THIS AND THERE WAS INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET TOO. I WILL.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. SO COUNTY ORDINANCE 2015 DASH 28 PROVIDES COUNTY COUNCIL WITH THE OPPORTUNITY PROVIDE AN IMPACT FEE SUBSIDY FOR INDIVIDUALS IN OF ASSISTANCE THESE PROVISIONS ARE ALSO DUPLICATED IN OUR CURRENT IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE IN SECTION 82 DASH 3383 C IN THESE ORDINANCES COUNCIL MAY PROVIDE FOR A STUDY OR EXCUSE ME A SUBSIDY BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S PLEASE NOTE THAT ALTHOUGH THIS ORDINANCE ENDORSES A DISCOUNT IMPACT FEES MAY NOT BE WAIVED THEY HAVE TO BE PAID ON BEHALF OF WHATEVER THE THE END USER IS WHEN FUNDS ARE APPROPRIATED APPLICANTS WHO HAVE AND HOUSEHOLD INCOME BETWEEN 60 AND 80% WHO AM I QUALIFY FOR 60% SUBSIDY.

TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF REAL DOLLARS I WENT TO THE COUNTY AREA MY TABLE FOR 2025 AND IT'S SPLIT UP BY THE NUMBER OF WAGE EARNERS IN THE HOME WHO ARE 15 YEARS OR OLDER.

THAT'S HOW THEY SPLIT IT UP. ONE WAGE EARNER 60% AMI IS $46,320 PER YEAR 80% AMI IS 61,700 FOR ONE WAGE EARNER. WHEN YOU GO UP TO TWO WAGE EARNERS WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHAT WE WERE SEEING WITH THESE APPLICATIONS PREVIOUSLY TO WAGE EARNERS AT 60% IS $52,920 ANNUALLY AND 80% IS 70,500. SO IF THAT GIVES YOU SOME IDEA WHERE THE THRESHOLDS ARE APPLICANTS WITH WITH A INCOME 60% AMI INCOME OF 60% OR BETWEEN THAT BOB EXCUSE ME BELOW THAT GETS A 100% SUBSIDY SO APPLICANTS WITH A HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF PERCENT AMI OR HIGHER DO NOT QUALIFY UNDER THE EXISTING ORDINANCE FOR ANY KIND OF A SUBSIDY.

SO UNDER OUR CURRENT IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE IT STATES THAT COUNCIL MAY PROVIDE THE SUBSIDY . THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT FEE MAY BE SUBSIDIZED AS LONG FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND BECAUSE THIS CURRENT FUND IS NOT FUNDED STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT COUNCIL REAPPROPRIATE $30,000 OF COUNCIL'S CURRENT CONTINGENCY CURRENT YEAR CONTINGENCY AND PUT IT INTO THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND TO MAKE THE SUBSIDY VIABLE AGAIN AND AVAILABLE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

AS FAR AS IMPACT GOES, OUR FEES ARE BROKEN DOWN BY SIZE OF HOME AND WHETHER IT'S IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY OR THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE ROAD FIRE PARK AND LIBRARY FEES TO GET VERY SPECIFIC A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE NORTH THE BROAD HAS A ROAD IMPACT FEE OF 2748 FIRE IMPACT FEE AT 1084 AND A PARK FEE OF 868 AND A LIBRARY FEE OF 401. THAT'S A TOTAL OF $5,101 SOUTH OF THE BROAD SAME BUCKETS THE ROAD IS 2844 FIRE IS 877 PARKS IS 517 LIBRARIES TO 78. THAT'S A TOTAL OF $4,516.

SO WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION EARLIER THIS WEEK THERE A COUNCILMAN GLOVER BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTENTION AND ALSO OUR CFO THAT THERE WERE NO

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OKAY. DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT FIRST, COUNCILMAN GLOVER NO.

I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE MOTION THAT WE FUNDED. OKAY.

YEAH, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MOTION A SECOND FLOOR WE CAN DISCUSS IT TO $30,000 COMING OUT OF THE CONTINGENCY FUND OF COUNTY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO HIS SECOND THAT WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE CAN DISCUSS QUESTIONS AND CHAIRMAN, I APPRECIATE THIS AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF BRINGING THIS TO US WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION. IMPACT FEES HAVE IMPACTED LOT OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY CAN'T AFFORD AND IN THE CASE OF THIS HERE, JUST HAVING A TRAILER GIVEN TO A PERSON BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE IMPACT FEE THEY CAN'T BRING THEIR TRAILER ON PROPERTY.

THIS IS A CASE THAT IS HAPPENING NOW AND IF WE ALLOW THIS TO MOVE FORWARD, IS THAT ONLY AVAILABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR PERSON OR ANYONE BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHO'S HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH IMPACT FEE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SEVERAL YEARS AGO SOMEHOW IT WAS NOT BUDGETED I THINK WE NEED TO SET THE EXAMPLE THAT WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE ESPECIALLY WORKING AND GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BETTER BUT SOMETIMES THEY JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP. SO I THINK VICE CHAIRMAN CHAIR STEPANEK WAS NEXT.

SO YEAH MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHO DETERMINES WHO WILL THESE. WE HAVE A 30,000 POT WHICH ISN'T MUCH WHO'S GOING TO DETERMINE WHO'S WHO'S GOING TO GET SOME OF THIS MONEY AND SO YOU SAID NO TO THE BROAD IT'S 51 TO 1 FOR ALL THOSE FEES SOUTH OF THE BROAD 4516 IS THE THOUGHT THAT WE COVER ALL THE IMPACT FEES FOR A PERSON. HELP ME ANYTHING? YES, MA'AM SO WE HAVE $30,000. IT'S NOT GOING TO GO VERY FAR SO I DID THIS BASED THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON A 2000 SQUARE FOOT SQUARE FOOT THAT WAS JUST KIND THE CENTER OF THE TABLE. TYPICALLY WHAT SEE IS APPLICANTS WILL COME IN IT'S ASSOCIATE WITH MANUFACTURED HOMES TYPICALLY A USED MANUFACTURED HOME BEING PUT ON AYRES PROPERTY OR WHERE YOU KNOW ON A PIECE OF DONATED LAND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IF YOU GO TO A 1200 SQUARE FOOT HOME THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT COMES DOWN IT'S GRADUATED FOR EACH FEE SO YOU KNOW IF IF A PERSON'S BUYING A NEW HOME THERE'S 2000 SQUARE FEET AND THEY'RE QUALIFYING FOR A MORTGAGE, TYPICALLY THEY WOULD MAKE MORE THAN WHAT THE THRESHOLDS ARE. SO DETERMINES IT. IT'S ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WE REQUIRE THEM GIVE US THEIR TAX RETURNS TO PROVE WHAT THEIR PREVIOUS YEAR INCOME WAS . WE KEEP ALL OF THAT CONFIDENTIAL AND THEN THE CRITERIA IS WHAT APPROVES THE PERSON FOR THE DISCOUNT AND THEN WE WOULD COMMUNICATE THAT TO FINANCE TO HAVE THE FUNDS MOVED FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND TO THE INDIVIDUAL IMPACT FEE ACCOUNTS JUST FOR THE PUBLIC JUST TO REITERATE WE CAN'T JUST WAVE AWAY IMPACT FEES SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY THEM WHICH IS WHY THIS ACCOUNT BE SET UP AND THIS IS ONLY FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO BUDGET FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

CORRECT. IF COUNCIL SO OH COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW PARDON MY IGNORANCE WITH QUESTION BUT WHAT'S THE ROLE OF THE BE FOR JAZZ FOR HOUSING TRUST FUND WITH THIS I THOUGHT THEY WERE THAT WAS PART OF THEIR ROLE WAS TO COVER PART OF THIS SO TWO SEPARATE THINGS THEIR MISSION'S A LITTLE THIS IS A DIRECT SUBSIDY FROM COUNTY COUNCIL TO THE APPLICANTS I KNOW YOU'VE PUT MONEY IN THAT TO FACILITATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S FOR DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS THAT APPLY FOR THESE FUNDS AND THEY'RE SUPPLIED A SUBSIDY OUT THIS ACCOUNT WHICH IS A COUNTY COUNCIL OWNED ACCOUNT SO OF IS TAKING TAX MONEY PUTTING IT IN THE FUND SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS USE THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WHAT YEAR WAS THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE 2015.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM AND THEN COUNCILMAN DAWSON, I THANK YOU . SO THE ONLY REQUIREMENT ON OUR END IS THE W-2. NO, OUR TAX RETURN. SORRY.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S NO VERIFICATION EMPLOYMENT BACKGROUND HISTORY, BACKGROUND CHECKS, NOTHING. IT'S BASED ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S INCOME THAT'S LISTED ON THERE TAX RETURN TO WORK, GOVERNMENT FUNDING SOMETHING BUT THE ONLY INFORMATION WE HAVE AN INCOME RETURN A TAX RETURN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER YOU

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MR. DAWSON AS CHUCK INDICATED THIS THIS IS NOT A NEW PROGRAM THIS NEW PROGRAM IT IN 2015 AND I SOMEWHERE AROUND 2018 2019 IT MIGHT HAVE DROPPED OFF THE RADAR BUT THE FUNDS WERE ESTABLISHED TO ACTUALLY HELP THE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE OF COUNTY TO HELP THEM BUY MOBILE HOMES AND SET IT UP AND WE FOUND THAT THE OVERRIDING PROCESS ALL THE OVERRIDING PROBLEM THAT THEY HAD WAS NOT GETTING A MOBILE HOME BUT GETTING SET UP AND THEY HAD TO PAY THE IMPACT FEE AND THE IMPACT FEE IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF WHAT THE IMPACT FEE IS LISTED AS IS ASTRONOMICAL FOR A MOBILE HOME AND SO THIS PROGRAM IS JUST BASICALLY DESIGNED TO ASSIST IN THAT PROCESS. SO IT'S NOT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IT'S JUST THAT IT FELL OFF THE RADAR AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REACH INTO AND REINSTITUTE IT. IT'S PART OF THE HISTORY I THINK WHEN HAD OUR MEETING YOU SAID AVERAGE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS WAS 4 TO 6 A YEAR WHEN IT WAS WHEN IT WAS I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER AS BEING THE AVERAGE ABOUT FOUR OR SIX A YEAR WE HAD MORE APPLICATIONS THAN THAT BUT A LOT OF THEM DID NOT QUALIFY DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR YEAH THEY MADE TOO MUCH MONEY. CORRECT. OKAY.

OTHER QUESTIONS ONE OTHER QUESTION WHAT HAPPENS IF MR. GETS THIS IMPACT FEE WAIVER OR WHATEVER AND THEN HE PICKS UP THE MOBILE HOME AND MOVES WITHIN A YEAR SO.

IMPACT FEES ARE PAID PER SITE SO HE GOT IT. MR. CUNNINGHAM GOES THE IMPACT FEE IS PERMANENTLY PAID ON THAT SITE SO WHEN THE NEXT MOBILE HOME COMES IN ON THAT SITE THAT INCOME THEY PAY IT ONCE PROVIDED IT'S THE SAME SIZE. SO IF GO FROM A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT TO 3000 SQUARE FOOT YOU WOULD OWE THE DIFFERENCE. BUT WE KEEP THOSE RECORDS AND CHECK THAT DURING OUR PERMITTING PROCESS AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO COMMENT. I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS INSTITUTED WAS COUNCILMAN DAWSON WAS HERE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PROGRAM TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING WRONG WITH MOBILE HOMES. I'VE LIVED IN ONE BUT A LOT OF US HAVE I THINK IN OUR LIFETIMES AND IN OTHERS WILL IN THE FUTURE TOO. BUT IT HELPS THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE TYPE HOME IS PROBABLY LEAST EXPENSIVE HOME BUT YET THEY WANT A HOME TO LIVE IN AND THIS OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THOSE PEOPLE SO ALL RIGHT SO WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION WE'LL CALL THE VOTE I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A ROLL CALL VOTE. BUT LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION ITEM ONLY ON THE AGENDA. WE HAD A MOTION NOW THAT WAS IN MOTION IT'S ONLY JUST GOT BACK UNDER DISCUSSION SO I THOUGHT THE DISCUSSION NO TO THE MOTION WAS TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION BUT YOU'RE STILL ON THE ADMINISTRATORS REPORT TIME OF THE AGENDA I'D RECOMMEND OKAY OKAY THANK YOU DEVIN ALL RIGHT SO WE WILL DO THAT UNDER NATURAL RESOURCES. COUNCILMAN GLOVER WHEN WE GET DELAYS ON IF YOU'LL MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN OKAY IT'S PRETTY CLEAR OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION AND

[7. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD]

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SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES YOU BUT ALSO AS I LOOKED AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS SHOWN I TO SEE, SAID HELEN OF GARLAND CULTURAL VILLAGE.

I'M LAUNCH OF A NEW MARKET AS PART OF THAT SLIDE NEXT TIME BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP OUR YOUTH TO OFFER OF OUR YOUTH SOME THINGS WE WANT OUR YOUTH TO NOT ONLY LEARN GULLAH GEECHEE HISTORY BUT TO BE A PART OF THE MARKET THAT THEY CAN LEARN SOME ENTREPRENEURIAL SKILLS AND SOME BUSINESS SKILLS. SO WE HOPE TO SEE THAT IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

MS. MEASURES ALL RIGHT. NEXT IS MR. ARNOLD L BROWN TOO. IT'S A CLOCK WORKING.

I THINK WE HAVE IT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU.

OH, NO POSTER TODAY. NO POSTER TODAY. WELL, I BROUGHT ONE BUT I DECIDED TO USE HAPPY NEW YEAR AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD IN NOVEMBER OF DECEMBER WERE KIND OF DISTURBING AND AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT AND AND PROBABLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN COMMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE I HAVE IS WHY DID PINE ISLAND DROP THEIR LAWSUIT DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY PINE ISLAND LV OR WHY THEY DROPPED THEIR LAWSUIT. I HAVE MY OPINION.

I WISH THEY WOULD TELL US FIRST OF ALL THEY HAD VERY LITTLE COMMUNITY SUPPORT THEIR CASE THEIR LEGAL CASE WAS VERY WEAK WHEN THEY THIS IS A SECOND APPLICATION THE SECOND YEAR WHEN THEY ADDED FUNDS AND THEY ADDED A $2.5 MILLION THEY BLINKED.

THEY WERE SEEING THAT WE HAVE A WEAK CASE. THEREFORE WE WANT TO BY YOUR DECISION AND THEN THEY ADDED MORE FUNDS AND THEN WE NOTICED THAT SOME FUNDS WERE ADDED IN CERTAIN OTHER DISTRICTS AND THEN THEY LOST THEM IN PULTE HOMES LOSS THEIR APPLICATION WHEN THEY WOULD NOT APPROVE THAT WAS ANOTHER STRIKE AGAINST THEM.

SO WHEN DID THEY MAKE A DECISION WHEN DID THE COUNCIL WHEN DID ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DEFINE THAT THEY MADE A DECISION AND SO SO IN FOREST COURT CASES I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO LEGAL LIBRARY BUT IF THEY HAD A GOOD CASE WHY DIDN'T BRING UP A CASE A HISTORICAL CASE SIMILAR TO THEIRS DON'T THINK IT EXISTED FAR AS WITNESSES I THINK THE CASE WAS WAS TO WERE IT FRIVOLOUS FRIVOLOUS. SO THEY DROPPED THEIR CASE.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING TO ATTENTION IS WHEN THEY FILE THE CASE THEY ARE TO THEY ARE THE PLAINTIFFS AND BEAUFORT COUNTY IS THE DEFENDANT. SO THE RELATIONSHIP CHANGES.

SO WHEN YOU THERE'S A FOOTBALL GAME TONIGHT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TELL PEOPLE EACH OTHER THE PLAY IS GOING TO BE SO THERE ARE THERE ARE YOUR COMPONENTS OPPONENTS.

THEY'RE YOUR ENEMY. THERE'S YOUR RIVAL. THERE'S CONFLICT GOING ON SO INFORMATION SHOULD NOT BE SHARED WITH THEM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. NEXT ON THE LIST IS RICK PERRY PEPPER RICKS DID I SAY THAT RIGHT NOW? COOK OUR TEAM POROWSKI. OH, I SEE THE EYE AT THE END.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. A RECENT OWNER IN OFF OF IT'S A HARBOR YOU KNOW HILTON HEAD HARBOR RV PARK ON JENKINS ROAD AND THERE'S BEEN SOME PARKING THAT HAVE CHANGED THERE IN THE LAST MONTH AND OVER THE LAST MONTH I'VE SEEN FIVE ITERATIONS OF THE SIGNS WHERE THEY'VE COME THEY'VE GONE THEY THEY GOT REPLACED AGAIN THE SIGN ARROWS WENT DIFFERENT WAYS ALL THE UP TO LAST MONDAY WHERE A NEW SIGN CAME AND I KNOW THIS THE COUNCIL HAS HAS USED THE PLANNING COMMISSION YOU I DON'TO GET INTO THE SAFETY CONCERNS BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCIL WITH SOME THINGS THAT I'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. I'D LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC COUNT, THE TYPE VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING IN AND OUT. THERE'S TRACTOR TRAILERS WITH, YOU KNOW, BRINGING BRINGING FUEL TO THE MARINA. THERE'S PROPANE TRUCKS.

THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S MOTOR HOMES AND CURRENTLY THEY'RE GOING RIGHT UP AGAINST PARKING IS ALLOWED RIGHT UP AGAINST TO THE ENTRANCE PEDESTRIAN COUNTS PEOPLE WALK UP AND DOWN ALL THE TIME. SPEED LIMITS I THINK SPEED LIMITS ARE ARE VERY IMPORTANT I LIVE RIGHT UP AGAINST I HAVE A PLACE RIGHT UP AGAINST THE ROAD AND I SEE PEOPLE DOING 50, 60 MILES AN HOUR YOU WILL THERE BE SOME TYPE OF THERE'S NO POST THE SPEED LIMIT ON CURRENTLY WILL THERE BE WILL THERE BE ANY TYPE OF BARRIERS SPEED BUMPS PUT ON THERE, EROSION CONTROL

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I APPLY FOR A TAX FUNDING THIS YEAR AND I WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS BEFORE THE MEETING ENDED IT WAS APPROVED AND IT WAS PULLED WE RAN OUT OF FUNDING. THINK YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS INCORRECT? I THINK THE STATE STATUTE WHICH I SPOKE TO MY PRESENTATION IT STANDS FOR US BEFORE FOR CITY HAS BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO GIVE US TO A TAX FUNDING GRANTS TOTALING $37,500 OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. KENNY. OUR LAST PERSON WHO SIGNED UP FOR COMMENT IS MR. WILLIAM SMITH BUT TO THE COUNCIL. WELL, LET ME START BY SAYING THAT.

MY FIRST THINGS I GUESS WAS MAYBE JUST A THANK BUT I QUESTION THE THE GROUNDBREAKING THAT WE HAD IN THE BUILDING IN THE BUILDING THAT I GAVE HIM SOMETHING THAT WHEN I LOOK OVER AT THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE ,YOU KNOW, I LOOK SO I LOOK OVER TO WEST BURTON.

I LOOK AND WHAT WE HAVE IN THE END BURTON AND HOW THAT FACILITY AND I ASKED MYSELF HOW ARE YOU REALLY REALLY REALLY UTILIZING TAX TAXPAYERS MONEY TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES WE'VE SAID THAT WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS OVER THERE IN DC IN THE THAT WE'VE USED IN THE SCOTT HALL, THE GLORIA POTS AND A COUPLE OTHER PLACES WHERE THAT KIND OF KNOWN AND I REMEMBER MEETING WITH THE COUPLE THE THE THE RECREATION DIRECTORS AND MEETING WITH THE ONE OF THE FORMER KIND OF ADMINISTRATORS WITH OUR GROUP AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE CAN BEST SPEND THE RESOURCES AND THE POOL OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN MAKING IT AND THEN ENRICHING IT AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO ENRICH IN SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD THE BUILDING THE SIZE THAT WE'RE BUILDING AND THEN WHEN I FELT THAT THE KIDS OVER IN BURTON I KNOW DIFFERENT IN THE KIDS ON SAY HELENA AND I'M NOT LOOKING TO A AN INVESTOR FROM COUNTY I LOOK FOR NO I'M LOOKING FOR THIS COUNCIL THIS BODY BECAUSE I REMEMBER ONE TIME WHEN THIS BODY AND THIS AND BEFORE THIS OUT OF THE BROAD CARRIED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BROAD SO I DON'T HAVE NOTHING ABOUT WE DON'T HAVE NO TAXES WE DON'T WE DON'T PAY AS

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BURTON WHY CAN'T THE KICK US TOWN HAVE A COMPLEX THE SIZE OF THAT BUILDING BEING AT THAT OPENING CEREMONY MY STOMACH WAS IT WAS BALLED UP TO LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND AND WHAT WE WERE OFFERING OUR KIDS I FEEL LIKE LIKE THAT WASN'T A SLICE OF APPLE PIE.

IT WAS A DISGRACE. THAT'S MY TRUE FEELINGS BECAUSE I'M NOT I'M NOT ONCE AGAIN I'M NOT LOOKING NO ONE TO FOR NO ONE TO BRING OPPORTUNITIES WHERE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY ARE PAYING TAXES WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER.

I'LL MOVE ON FROM THERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND THING IS ANOTHER THING IS THIS WE TALK ABOUT THE KIDS IN THE COUNTY AND WE HAD THE CONVERSATION A MINUTE AGO WHEN GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT PAYING $30,000. THAT'S A DROP THE BUCKET. MY QUESTION IS WHERE WAS THE TAX GOING TO COME FROM THE IMPACT FEES WHEREAS THE IMPACT FEE IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE REMEMBER A SITUATION WHERE YOU KNOW YOU JUST TOLD ME THAT LONG AGO THAT THAT HER MOTHER PAID IMPACT FEES AND HER MOTHER MOVED THE HOUSE AND SHE HAD TO REPAY FEES SO SO AND TO HEAR WHAT HE JUST THAT BASICALLY THAT THE IMPACT FEES STAY THE SAME I BEG THE DIFFERENCE AND I DON'T WATCH SOME OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL FACE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AND SOMEONE EVEN SAID WELL WHAT KIND OF BACKGROUND CHECK WHAT KIND OF CHECKS DO WE DO? WHAT YOU WANT BACKGROUND CHECKS AS A KIND OF COUNCILMAN BOEHNER BE BRAVE TO SAY I WANT A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK. GOT TO BE CAREFUL WHEN WE SAY WE ONE COUNTY AND WE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE WE SAY ALL OF THAT. SO LOOK AT THE LOOKS ON SOMEBODY'S OUR FACE AND HOW YOU HOW YOU ACT THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WAS A SHAMEFUL. GOD, I WORRY ABOUT NO TIME.

THANK YOU. SO IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S A DISGRACE. WE STOP IT. THANK YOU.

AND RIGHT HERE IN RIGHT HAND IS ALL WE HAVE THE I REMEMBER GOING TO SEVERAL CALLS WE TALK ABOUT KIDS IN COUNTY AND WE DON'T STAND FOR THE KIDS AND EVERYONE IS COUNTY WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.

YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU I'M DONE. MY POINT.

THANK YOU. IS ANYONE THAT CAME IN LIGHT THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. ALL RIGHT.

[8. LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS]

I'M GOING CALL OUT THE GROUPS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER THAT MIGHT HAVE MET OR DID MEET.

I'LL START WITH THE AIRPORTS BOARD. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT? MR.. VERY BRIEFLY LAST THE FROGMORE EXECUTIVE RUNWAY IS COMPLETE HILTON HEAD TO PHASE IS 87 COMPLETE WITH THAT BUILDOUT WITH THE NEW AND ON CHRISTMAS EVE A WORLD TOUR TWO VETERAN WAS HONORED COMING IN HE'S 101 YEARS OLD SO.

I MEAN THESE GUYS DO A GREAT JOB. PALMETTO BREEZE BRIAN SULLIVAN IS DONE. I'M SORRY. JUST STICK WITH THE AIRPORT LOOKS. YEAH. BREEZE BREEZES NOT MUCH TO THE JETS IN MY RETIREMENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT I THINK WE ALREADY HEARD FROM THEM TIME SO WE'LL SKIP THAT ONE YORK GLOVER BEFORE JASPER SEWER WATER AUTHORITY ANY REPORTS THEY JUST RECENTLY HAD BREAKFAST TO STAKEHOLDERS AND THEY WERE OUTLINING THEIR CAPITAL INVESTMENT AROUND THE COUNTY AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE GOING FORWARD IS THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING IN. HYATTSVILLE A LOT OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT EXPENDITURES FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA BUT. THE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN THAT STAFF AND THAT BOARD IS MOVING FORWARD HAVING ALMOST SEVEN YEARS OR MORE OF DOING ANY INVESTMENT NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP SO I THINK THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB IN DOING THAT.

IF AT THIS TIME. MADAM CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU. BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DISTRICT MR. CUNNINGHAM BRIEFLY. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE NEW FIRE CHIEF WHERE HE WENT OVER THAT.

BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE NOTICE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. TAKE THIS AS WE MAKE A TO FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NEXT MEETING THAT I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO VACATE THE SUSPENSION OF RICK KRAB AT THE BLUFFTON FIRE AT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON FIRE.

THAT MEETING WILL BE JANUARY 26TH. THANK YOU.

MEMORIAL HOSPITAL DID HAVE A BOARD MEETING BUT NOTHING OF NOTHING REPORT ON THAT GREENSPACE. MR. MCGOWAN. YEAH THERE WAS A MEETING IN DECEMBER. THE NEXT MEETING IS THIS COMING FRIDAY.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MATTERS THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH THE DUE DILIGENCE AREA.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE LOOKING AT IS WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE HAVE

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OKAY. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE ABOUT WITH ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BEFORE. SO AT THE MEETING IN PALMETTO I CALLED HIM CHALLENGING TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS NOW? ALL RIGHT. BY SHOW OF HANDS ALL IN FAVOR AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. THAT'S GREAT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. KEEP YOUR PEOPLE COUNTY BOARD, JOE. I DON'T THINK THEY DID. THEY MAY OKAY.

LOCOG WE HAVE SEVERAL OF US THAT GO TO THAT WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO REPORT ANYTHING FROM THAT MEETING? MADAM CHAIR OUR REPORT AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING I REPORTED THAT THE DIRECTOR THE LOWCOUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS MISS SABRINA GRAHAM WAS RETIRING AT THE END OF LAST YEAR DECEMBER 31ST AND SO THE SEARCH COMMITTEE HAD ALREADY INTERVIEWED SEVERAL CANDIDATES AND FORTUNATELY OUR VERY OWN AMAZON OF ONE OF OUR ASSISTANT ACS HERE HE WAS HIRED ON JANUARY 1ST AS THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE LOCAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. THANK YOU. WE HAVE PARKS AND REC FLAGGING.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT? NO MA'AM. WE HAD THE TWO RIBBON CUTTINGS THIS WEEK IN THE LAST WEEK AT THE NEW CENTERS AND WE WE HAD THE RIBBON CUTTING AT A GROUNDBREAKING GROUNDBREAKING RIBBON CUTTING CROWN GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY AT THE SHELDON JUST MAJOR CENTER. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED BY THE ALL THE STAFF WERE THERE AND I'M JUST GRATEFUL THAT WE GOT THE PROJECT TO THE POINT WHERE WE ACTUALLY PUT THE SHELVES THE GROUND TO START THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. COUNCILMAN GLOVER THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN IF YOU WANT YOUR OTHER SUBJECT WILL COVER ANYTHING.

OH GO AHEAD AGAIN. SAY IT AGAIN. WELL IS THERE ANYTHING FROM PLANNING COMMISSION YOU WISH TO REPORT? AND IF NOT, DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN DISCUSSION AND DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION FORMAL? LET ME PIGGYBACK ALSO ON THE STAKEHOLDERS SITE GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE THE RECREATION SERVICE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY WAS ATTENDED AS WELL ON THE CALENDAR AND WE WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S JUST PHASE ONE AT THIS TIME WITH MORE PHASES TO COME. THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL WILL MEET THE FIRST MONDAY IN I MEAN IN FEBRUARY AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE ACTION COMING OUT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF IT'S ON THERE IT WOULD FOR A SCHOOL ON SINGLE OWNER.

SO THAT'S COMING UP AND THEN TO HAVE THE FLOOR. I'D LIKE TO OFFER A MOTION TO A FUND OF TO APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO RE-IMPLEMENT THE DISCOUNTED FEE SCHEDULE FOR QUALIFIED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT FOR A SECOND BUT COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS OR OTHER QUESTIONS SHOULD SET THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. OH YEAH. WHERE IT'S COMING FROM IS 30,000 FROM THE CONTINGENCY UP $30,000 AND IS COMING OUT OF THE CONVENTION AS CONTINGENCY FUNDS FOR SIX MONTHS FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR.

THE YEAR. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER WAY TO REACH THE

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COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM. YES, I UNDERSTAND THIS POLICY WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2015.

I ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT. THE MAJORITY OF US WERE NOT EVEN ON COUNCIL.

THAT HAPPENS. I'M WILLING TO SAY MOST OF THEM KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT EITHER.

I DO NOT COMFORTABLE FUNDING SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NOT READ ON BEFORE WHEN I WAS IN AND THE UNDERSTANDING WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR TODAY NOT TO TAKE ACTION.

CLEARLY I DO ALREADY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH USING GOVERNMENT FUNDS WITH NOT MUCH OVERSIGHT SO I WILL BE VOTING NO AND I WOULD SUPPORT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT BEFORE WE TAKE ANY ACTION. MAYBE WE SHOULD BE MORE EDUCATED ON THE ACTUAL PROGRAM . OKAY COUNCILMAN BURNETT, IT SO I AGREE I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS EITHER AND WE WERE NOT PROVIDED ADEQUATE INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, MY QUESTION WOULD GO MAYBE ADMINISTRATOR CONSENT I DON'T CARE WHO ANSWERS IT IS THIS IS USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS AND IS IT DIFFERENT THAN PAVING PRIVATE ROADS OR GIVING AWAY COMMUNITY SERVICES GRANT WHEN WE ARE USING TAX FROM OUR TAXPAYERS.

MM HMM. MM HMM. SO IS A DIRECT COMPARISON TO THE OTHER PROGRAMS I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK TO THE LEGALITIES OF THAT OR THE NUANCES THAT KIND OF COUNCIL INSTITUTED THIS IN 2015 AND IN 2023, ADOPTED AND ADDED THIS PROVISION TO THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE AND WHAT I'VE DESCRIBED AND PROVIDED TO YOU IS THE PROGRAM IN ITS ENTIRETY. THOSE ARE THE PROVISIONS IT'S A ONE PAGE ORDINANCE.

HAPPY TO EMAIL THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY IF YOU NEED ME TO. AND THEN IN THE CURRENT IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE IT'S ON ONE PAGE AND IT'S IN TWO SECTIONS. THERE'S A TABLE OUTLINES THE 60 TO 80% AMI LESS THAN 60 AND OVER WITH THE THREE BUCKETS THAT I'VE DESCRIBED SO THAT THAT IS THE ORDINANCE IT'S NOT REALLY A POLICY AN ORDINANCE OF COUNCIL SO IT'S IT'S YOUR ORDINANCE IS YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND YOUR DOLLARS SO JUST TRYING TO FACILITATE THE PROGRAM FOR SOME REASON IT DID NOT GET FUNDED FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS NOBODY THAT'S CURRENTLY ON STAFF KNOWS WHY IT DIDN'T GET FUNDED IT JUST WASN'T PART OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE.

SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE SCREEN THERE THAT IS THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE IN ITS ENTIRETY THAT'S THE WHOLE THING . MY QUESTION IS WHY WOULD WE USE SOME OF THE FUNDS WE ARE PERMITTED TO DEDICATE FROM ATTACKS WE'RE ALLOWED TO PUT THERE FOR WORK FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE CAN PUT IT WITH THE HOUSING TRUST FOR ACCOUNTABILITY. WHY WOULD WE NOT DO THAT INSTEAD USING AD VALOREM TAX MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC? SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO BRIAN AS SOON AS I SAY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCE PROVIDES. I UNDERSTAND PART BUT I'M ASKING WOULD IT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO USE WORKFORCE FUNDING THROUGH A TAX? THOSE ARE NOT DIRECT TAXES FROM THE RESIDENTS. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS ORDINANCE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPACT IS THE SAME AS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING MENTIONED DESCRIBED IN THE ATTACKS FUNDS THAT'S AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

SO THINK WE'D HAVE A PROBLEM THERE WE'D HAVE TO GET A TERK OPINION AND THEY DON'T GIVE OPINIONS ANYMORE IN THAT REGARD. SO IF WE TESTED IT AND YOU STATE TAX FUNDS IN THAT CATEGORY AND THEN REPORTED THE TURK AND REVIEWED IT AND SAID NO THEN YOU HAVE TO USE YOUR GENERAL FUNDS TO REPLACE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REPLACE THEIR TAX FUNDS. IT'S NOT WORTH THE RISK. NO, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN INVESTIGATE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF ATX BEFORE WE GET THERE AGAIN THE NORMAL TO TEST THAT AND INVESTIGATE THAT USED TO BE YOU REQUESTED A TURK OPINION THE TOURISM EXPENDITURE REVIEW COMMITTEE THEY NO LONGER GET THOSE COMMITTEES OPINIONS. WE CAN CALL UP AND ASK THE STAFF IF THERE'S BEEN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR IF THEY HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WHERE IT'S BEEN REVIEWED AND CHALLENGED IN THE PAST THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET THE OPINION WITHOUT SOMEONE HAVING TESTED IT AND YET AND A DETERMINATION FROM TURK WHEN THEY REVIEWED THE EXPENDITURE IF IT'S EVER BEEN DONE BEFORE SOMEBODY CALLING ME IT'S FINE.

THIS IS A STOPGAP MEASURE UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE RATE WHICH WAS ONLY 30,000 FOR RIGHT NOW I THINK IN THE MEANTIME THAT THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION WE CAN WORK TO EITHER GET RID OF THIS ORDINANCE OR INCORPORATE IT INTO THE B JASPER HOUSING TRUST FUND WHERE THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE. BUT RIGHT NOW THIS IS A STOPGAP MEASURE SO THAT THESE PROJECTS CAN MOVE ON FOR A FEW FAMILIES FOR A FEW FAMILIES IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF ELLSWORTH PASSING IT BECAUSE IF I READ THIS THIS TALKS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS BUT IN THE DISCUSSION WE HAVE IT WAS TARGETED TO SPECIFIC TYPE OF HOUSING WHICH WAS TRAILERS PREVIOUSLY FRACTURED

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WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS PENDING RIGHT NOW SO IF YOU WANT THIS TO BE BROUGHT BACK LIFE YOU PUT MONEY IN THIS FUND AND STAFF CAN USE THE EXISTING ORDINANCES TO CONTINUE PROGRAM THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR AND I THINK TRAILERS USED AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE MOST AFFORDABLE TYPE HOUSING IN THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

I MEAN YOU COULD HAVE POSSIBLY A SMALL SMALL HOUSE STICK BUILT THIS PEOPLE SAY THAT COULD FIT THE CRITERIA YES MA'AM AND I WILL SAY THAT THE LAST COUPLE OF TIMES THAT COUNCIL APPROPRIATED FUNDS HAS BEEN BY RESOLUTION TO HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND IT WAS PAID OUT OF THIS FINE COUNCIL VOTED WE FUNDED THIS ACCOUNT AND THEN PAID THAT OUT BUT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T THE HOMEOWNER THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY UNDER THIS PROGRAM BUT THEY DID UNDER THE PROVISION THAT COUNCIL INSTITUTED THAT SAYS YOU CAN SUBSIDIZE IT AS LONG AS IT COMES OUT OF THIS FUND AND THAT WAS A DIRECTION BY COUNCIL BE A RESOLUTION FOR HABITAT TO GET REIMBURSED FOR PAYING THE IMPACT FEES AFTER THEY'D ALREADY PAID THEM, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM.

YEAH. MEAN I THINK THE PROGRAM CAN WORK.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE PROPER FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT.

I EVERYBODY ON UP HERE AGREES WITH THAT BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND THAT THAT'S MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH VOTING YES OR NO TODAY IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE A DISCUSSION? WE'RE STILL ASKING QUESTIONS AS WE'RE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. SOUNDS LIKE WE STILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS WHETHER BRIAN THINK SOMETHING CAN BE USED OR NOT AS WELL WHETHER THE RIGHT WAY TO TEST THE THEORY OR NOT. LIKE YOU SAID THE TERK OPINION .

SO I GUESS THAT SORT OF REITERATES MY CONCERN. I HAVE NO PROBLEM FIGURING OUT MAYBE WE NEED TO DOVE INTO THIS ORDINANCE, ADD SOME MORE MEAT TO IT AND THEN GO THROUGH IT.

I KNOW YOU'RE JUST BRINGING FORWARD WHAT WE'VE ALREADY ADOPTED AND I KNOW THAT'S YOUR JOB SO THIS IS YOUR SENSE OF DISCUSSION BUT THAT THAT PUTS ME IN THE SAME SITUATION WHERE LIKE DO WE EVEN KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON? AND THAT'S THAT'S MY QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES COUNCILMAN? I AGREE WHEN.

YOU LOOK AT THIS AND I WANT TO SAY I AGREE I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. CUNNINGHAM WAS BRINGING UP THIS ORDINANCE AS IT'S WRITTEN WAS WRITTEN BEFORE WE HAD OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE.

SO THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT SPECIFY WHO EXACTLY GETS IT BECAUSE IT WAS EVEN TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY THAT A DEVELOPER COULD COME IN AND ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY THAT DOES QUALIFY WITH THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD THE HOUSE AND APPLY FOR THE TAX CREDITS.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT HE CAN'T DO THAT IN THE ORDERS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING US SO I REALLY THINK THIS ALL NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT CLOSER AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING, HOW WE'RE DOING IT WHO IT'S GOING TO BE FOR BECAUSE I CAN TELL RIGHT NOW THE FIRST $30,000 IS GOING TO GO TO THE AND THE SMARTEST AND THE FASTEST PEOPLE THAT CAN GET AN APPLICATION IN AND THAT SOMETIMES ISN'T THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO FOCUS ON BUT IT IS BASED ON INCOME BASED AFFORDABILITY. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW DISTINGUISH BETWEEN INCOME AFFORDABILITY THE WHO CAN WHO CANNOT IS BASED ON THAT YOU MEET THE CRITERIA THEN YOU QUALIFY TO JUST TO RESPOND. MR. CARSON COUNCILMAN LAWSON SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DEVELOPERS THAT'S A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS DIFFERENT CRITERIA AND THAT'S THAT'S A VERY COMPLICATED TOPIC IS THE MOST SIMPLISTIC PART OF SUPPLYING SUBSTANCE. IT'S DIRECT TO AN INDIVIDUAL. IT GIVES YOU THE THRESHOLDS, MAKE THE APPLICATION THEY MEET IT OR THEY DON'T AND IT'S FOR THE INDIVIDUAL ON THAT AND IT'S A SIMPLE PURCHASE, RIGHT? THEY OWN IT WHEN THEY'RE DONE. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COUNCILMAN MIKE ALLEN, JACQUE, HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLIED IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR? WELL, NONE IN THIS YEAR IT WASN'T AVAILABLE SO AND IT HASN'T BEEN FOR YEARS NOBODY BUT THAT STOP THEM FROM APPLYING THERE WAS NO MONEY TO PROVIDE BUT NOBODY FOR IT.

WHAT ABOUT AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY? WHAT ABOUT LAST DAYS?

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OKAY SO THE OUR PLAN IS TO NOTIFY PUT OUT THE INFORMATION THAT IT'S OUT THERE, NOTIFY MOBILE HOME DEALERS, NOTIFY DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT WOULD KNOW AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE THEY TYPICALLY HAVE HELPED WITH GETTING APPLICATIONS IN THE PAST BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY PENDING HERE TOO TOUGH SPOT RIGHT NOW. WELL NO YOU KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUT THIS FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR IT FOR JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE NOW YOU'RE FOR MANY OF US NOT GETTING WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION SO MAYBE WE CAN MAYBE WE CAN IT ACTUALLY THAN ASK FOR A MORE DEEP APPROVAL. WE COULD UNDO WHAT WE MIGHT DO TONIGHT BUT IF THERE ARE DECISIONS WHICH WE APPARENTLY HAVE DECIDED TEN HERE IS THAT EVEN IN THE PAST TWO YEARS THERE HAVEN'T BEEN REALLY A LOT OF THERE WAS NO MONEY SET ASIDE IF I'M IF I'M CORRECT THAT THE MONEY ASIDE AND THEN GET THIS REVISITED AGAIN SO THAT WE ALL HERE SINCE 2015 OR MOST OF US GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH MAYBE THIS YEAR MAYBE WE COULD PROCEED SO. STAFF BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TONIGHT BECAUSE IT CAME UP WITH THE COUNCIL BUDGET RETREAT. YEAH AS PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISCUSSION AND THAT'S WHEN IT CAME UP AND AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT WE HAVE THE THE 2015 ORDINANCE THAT YOU'VE JUST SHOWED US ACTUALLY ONLY PROVIDES FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES AND ALSO THE FACILITY THAT'S YOU THAT'S THAT WAS THAT PROVIDES FOR THE ORDINANCE. SO THAT WAS THE STARTING POINT RIGHT AND THEN I PAIRED IT WITH THE CURRENT ORDINANCE AND I GAVE YOU THE VERBIAGE AND CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE ISSUES SUCH AS LIBRARY NORTH LEBRON OKAY WE'LL JUST PUT A BUTTON ON IT.

I LIKED MR. MCCLELLAND'S IDEAS SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THAT THE MOTION IS DEFEATED AND INSTEAD YOU COME BACK WITH MORE INFORMATION AND WE LOOK AT DOING DIFFERENTLY HERE. I MEAN I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AT THIS POINT I WANT MORE INFORMATION AND I'M WITH MR. MCMILLAN. WE NEED THE INFORMATION.

I BUT LET ME SAY I DIDN'T SUGGEST THAT WE DEFEAT THE AND GET THE INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION LIKE WHAT WE HEAR RECENTLY. IT'S JUST AN ALTERNATIVE AND IT'S PROBABLY WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY TO A MANAGER WHY DON'T WE DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE AND CHANGE AFFORDABLE TO WORKFORCE HOUSING THEN IT HAS BETTER ARGUMENT TO QUALIFY FOR LOCAL TAX 2% OR 3% BECAUSE IT'S FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME YOU CAN MOVE TO FUND IT WITH THE AMOUNT THAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE FOR SIX MONTHS AS WE GO FORWARD THEN I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY THAT THE STATE STATUTE AND OUR ORDINANCE AUTHORIZES FOR THE USE OF A TAX TOWARDS WORKFORCE HOUSING AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE HAD A VERY HARD TIME GETTING THIS PASSED IN 2015 BECAUSE THERE WERE COUNCIL MEMBERS DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT AT ALL.

WE WE WERE TARGETING THE THE PEOPLE AT THE LOWEST INCOMES. I'M NOT AGAINST YOUR SUGGESTION BUT I I'M NOT SURE THAT MEETS THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THIS. I'M LOOKING AT COUNCILMAN DAWSON WORK WORK WORKFORCE HOUSING IS TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THE LOWER INCOME SO I CAN'T BELIEVE CITIZENS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY AND THIS THIS THIS OUR IT WAS DRAFTED TO ASSIST THE LOW INCOME CITIZENS IN THE COUNTY I WAS JUST TRYING WAS HOUSING IS TOTALLY RIGHT I GET TO USE THE SOURCE OF FUNDING I AGREE WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN DAWSON TO ALL RIGHT AND MANAGER I KNOW I SPOKE TWICE BUT I THINK I CAN WRAP THIS UP FOR YOU.

ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE ON TARP TWICE. THAT'S WHY I SAID I KNOW I SPOKE TWICE. I APOLOGIZE BUT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING RIGHT TO I MEAN EVEN STILL WE STILL HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ON THE USE IS FOR SO I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO MADE THE MOTION TO SEND THIS BACK TO STAFF AND ACTUALLY BRING THIS FORWARD TO A WORKSHOP SO CAN ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND WORKSHOP WITH THIS AND BUTTON THIS UP THE WAY THE SEES FIT FOR YOU FOR MR. DAWSON MR. GLOVER FOR MR. MCKELLEN AND LET'S ACTUALLY WORKSHOP THIS THROUGH AND FUND THIS THING FOR A SECOND THAT WAY CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT YOU SEND IT TO NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF A WORKSHOP? THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD COME

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I'LL THAT MOTION WE HAVE CAN MICROPHONE WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR HAVE TO AMEND HIS MOTION TO SAY RATHER THAN ADOPT HIS MOTION THAT WE SEND IT TO THE NATURAL WORLD I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION AND SEND THIS BACK TO NATURAL COMMITTEE THE TO NATURAL NETBACK TO SELL IT TO SEND TO HIS FELLOW WHEN IT CAME OUT OF HERE ORIGINALLY THIS IS A MOTION TO REMANDED TO NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE IS WHAT I'M HEARING NOW TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER JOBS NOW BECAUSE IT'S THAT'S THE ACTION I ROBERT RULES MINE WOULD OVER DO IT RIGHT SEND IT BACK AND KILL THE OTHER LAST SECOND THAT YEAH I'VE GOT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR OH WE HAVE THAT ALL IN TRY ANY MORE DISCUSSION ALL RIGHT ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION JUST TO SEND OR SEND IT BACK ALL RIGHT ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGN OF HANDS GET THE VOTE AND DO YOU 83 THREE NOW VOTING NO ON THAT BECAUSE I WANT THAT TO BE FUNDED THE EVENT THAT THERE IS AN EMERGENCY FOR A FAMILY THAT IS REALLY STUCK THOSE SEVEN FOR ONE SO THERE'S WHAT WE NEED THERE WERE FOUR NOS SEVEN FOUR YES. COUNCILMAN GLOVER COUNCILMAN DAWSON, MYSELF AND COUNCILOR MCGILL. IT PASSES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON THERE ANY OTHER REPORTS FROM THE LAWYERS ON YES ,SIR.

YES, I ATTENDED THE LEGISLATIVE POLICY CONFERENCE IN GREENVILLE IN DECEMBER WHERE.

SJC ADOPTED SEVERAL POLICIES ONE OF WHICH WE HAVE DISCUSSED HERE TONIGHT IT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ONE OF THE KEY POINTS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS TO SUPPORT LEGISLATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE ABILITY TO WAIVE OR REDUCE IMPACT OR TAP FEES SPECIFICALLY FOR AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE. THIS IS A STATE WIDE PROPOSAL THAT IS A STATE WIDE PROBLEM FOR NOT ONLY EVERY ONE OF THE COASTAL COUNTIES THAT ARE DEVELOPING SO QUICKLY BUT EVEN THE RURAL COUNTIES THAT ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH AFFORDABLE AND HOUSING.

ALL OF YOU WERE THE ENTIRE PACKET. ALSO TONIGHT EVERYBODY HAS WHAT ARE GOING TO BE THE SIX PILLARS OF PROGRESS THAT OUR STATE ARE GOING TO WORK ON THIS YEAR.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMITMENT? YES.

BUT IS MR. PASSMAN AT THE STATE LEVEL THEY LOOKING TO ASSIST DEVELOPERS IN MAKING WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING? THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

WHAT ARE THEY GEARING TOWARD LIKE KNOW THERE ARE COUNTIES BEAUFORT BEING ONE THAT HAVE ADOPTED IMPACT FEES. NOT EVERY COUNTY HAS THAT BUT WHEN HAVE IMPACT FEES THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE THE STATE SAYS ONCE YOU PASS THAT ORDINANCE YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TO FUND THAT AND IF YOU YOUR OWN BEHALF REDUCE THAT YOU HAVE TO COME WITH SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCE. THIS LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW US TO WAIVE OR REDUCE THOSE SPECIFICALLY FOR DEVELOPERS WHO WANT TO COME IN AND THAT'S MY QUESTION AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING. SO THEY'RE TARGETING DEVELOPERS NOT PEOPLE THAT THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW RIGHT? THAT'S NOT GERMANE TO THIS ONE. YEAH. OKAY.

I WANT ONE MR. HOWARD. I WANT TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AND ALL OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS RECEIVE THIS. THESE ARE OUR CHAT WITH COUNCIL DATES.

OUR FIRST ONE IS JANUARY 22ND AT 6 P.M. BLUFFTON LIBRARY AND THEN WE GO TO BEAUFORT LIBRARY SO WE MOVE ALL AROUND THE COUNTY AND HANNAH WILL PUBLISHES MISS NICHOLS AND WE INVITE EVERYONE TO ATTEND. THANK YOU. OKAY.

YES I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR CANCER ON SEPTEMBER THE 24TH BUT THAT IS A FOR THURSDAY IN THE MONTH DANCING HALLELUJAH. I WOULD LOVE FOR IT IF WE COULD MOVE IT TO THE THIRD THURSDAY INSTEAD OF THE FOURTH THURSDAY SO I CAN BEAT IT IS SO WHAT ABOUT THE LOCOG MEETING I'M

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SO I'M ASKING YOU TO RECONSIDER THE 20 ANOTHER DATE OTHER THAN THE 24 HOUR SWITCH IT MAY BE WITH ANOTHER YOU CAN DO THAT. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME WE COULD SWITCH TO SEPTEMBER 24, SEPTEMBER 24TH, MAYBE SEPTEMBER 24TH AND IF WE COULD GO TO SEPTEMBER THE 17TH THAT WOULD WORK FOR ME. WHY DON'T WE JUST SWITCH SEPTEMBER 2014 HELENA WITH AUGUST 20TH BEFORE LIBRARY THERE NORTH OF THE BRIDE HAVE YOU FOUND WITH ME THAT ANYBODY ELSE CARE? NO. LET ME EXCEPT FOR YOU'LL HAVE TO SEE IF THE ROOM'S AVAILABLE . SORRY, SHE JUST BOOKED ALL THESE. YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU AND ALL RIGHT. MADAM CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD HAVE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AT THIS TIME I WANT TO ANNOUNCE TO COUNCIL THAT I WILL OFFER A MOTION RESCIND THE VOTE TAKEN ON DECEMBER EIGHT, 2025 FOR THE PURCHASE OF REAL ESTATE A SINGLE ISLAND AND OUR NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE ANNOUNCEMENT. ANY OTHER PLAYS ON IN COMMITTEE

[9.a. 2025/51: An ordinance to amend Beaufort County’s Ordinance Chapter 102 Waterways article IV, abandoned and derelict boats, section 102-171 through 102-183.(PUBLIC HEARING) ]

MR.. YES, MA'AM. I WAS JUST SWITCHING MY DATES AND MY CALENDAR SO I SHOW UP AT THE RIGHT PLACE. OKAY.

SO WE ARE FOR THIRD READING 2025 SIZE 51 IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND COUNTY'S ORDINANCE CHAPTER 102 WATERWAYS. ARTICLE FOUR ABANDONED IN DERELICT BOATS SECTION 102-1 71 THROUGH 171 THROUGH 102-1 83 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THE VOTING PUBLIC FACILITIES 20 WAS NINE ZERO THE VOTED FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE NOVEMBER 10TH WAS 11 ZERO AND AT THE SECOND READING WAS NINE ZERO. AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE BUY FOR CATED THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE AND THIS IS ONLY FOR THE ABANDONED AND DERELICT BOATS SO I HAVE A MOTION THIS IS A POLITICAL MOVE MR. CUNNINGHAM MOVES IN A SECOND OF A SECOND THAT MISS BROWN SECONDS IT SO LET'S HAVE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH HAVING AN ACA DO IT BUT DISCUSSION OH YEAH PUBLIC HEARING. YEP.

ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC. OKAY, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO TO DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNCIL. ANYBODY CAN DO IT JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES SO THAT'S YEAH IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE DON'T CARE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. ALL RIGHT. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION AND THAT IS WE'RE VOTING ON THAT BAN AND DARRELL VOTES ONLY CORRECT.

THE OTHER ISSUE WE HAD WITH THE FEES FOR THE MARINA FOR THE COUNTY DOCKS WILL COME UP AND PUBLIC SAFETY STILL IN COMMITTEE. IT'S STILL ON COMMITTEE WORKING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK BRIAN. OKAY.

OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENT OR QUESTION? ALL RIGHT.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS ALL RIGHT.

UNANIMOUS ORDINANCE 2025 PERCENTAGE 51 PASSES 2025 SIZE 52 IS AN ORDINANCE RECOMMENDING

[9.b. 2025/52: An Ordinance recommending approval of the 2% State Accomodations Tax Awards as presented by the State Atax Committee. (PUBLIC HEARING)]

THANK YOU, MR. LAWSON. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO ADDRESS THIS ORDINANCE ON THE ATX AND BY THE WAY, ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS STARTED PAGE SIX IN THE PACKET THAT EXPLAINED WHERE THE TAX MONEY IS GRANTED ANYONE CARE TO SPEAK AT A PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING IT GOES TO DISCUSSION OF COUNCIL A DISCUSSION AGAIN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS GO AHEAD MS. AREA IT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANYBODY QUESTION COMMENT WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OKAY I'LL LET YOU NAME

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I'LL CLOSE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING THIS ORDINANCE AND WE HAVE ONE NO DOWN ON THE

[10.a. 2025/53: An Ordinance Authorizing the Acceptance and Possible Eminent Domain Associated with a Drainage Easement located in Rivers End Subdivision Identified as Open Area in Plat Book 59 at page 118. (PUBLIC HEARING)]

OKAY. ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING TRYING TO GET THIS YEAR.

OKAY FOR SECOND READING 2025 SLASH 53 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE AND POSSIBLE EMINENT DOMAIN ASSOCIATED WITH A DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED IN RIVERS AND SUBDIVISION IDENTIFIED IS OPEN AREA PLAT BOOK 59 AT PAGE 118 AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING DEVOTED PUBLIC COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 17TH EIGHT ZERO AND THE VOTED OUR FIRST READING DECEMBER 8TH WAS NINE ZERO. CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS SERVED MR. CUNNINGHAM MAKES THE MOTION A SECOND IT THANK YOU MISS BROWN MAKES THE SECOND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO DISCUSS THIS COMMENT ON THIS. OKAY.

HEARING NO AND I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION FROM ANYBODY.

HAVE A QUESTION AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS NUMEROUS TIMES.

I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC WATCHING US TO THINK WE JUST DO IT.

YEAH. ANYBODY QUESTION COMMENT. ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE 2025 SIZE 53. ALL RIGHT.

[11.a. 2026/01: An Ordinance amending the Zoning Map for 231.58 Acres (R100 025 000 0084 0000, R100 025 000 0110 0000, R100 020 000 047A 0000, R100 026 00A 0260 0000, R100 026 00A 0261 0000, R300 028 000 0016 0000, R300 028 000 016A 0000, R300 015 000 076B 0000, R100 033 00A 0022 0000, R600 009 000 0030 0000, R600 013 000 0048 0000, R600 009 000 0003 0000, R600 005 000 004D 0000, R600 021 000 0078 0000, R600 029 000 0054 0000, R600 021 000 0819 0000) from S1, T2R, T3HN, T4HC, C4CCMU, and C5RCMU to T1NP. (PUBLIC HEARING)]

SO THERE ARE 16 PROPERTIES LISTED ALL OF THESE WERE PURCHASED OUR RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS WE HAVE GROUPED PROPERTIES PURCHASED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AND WE HAVE DOWNS ON THEM FROM WHATEVER THE ZONING DESIGNATION WAS WHEN WE PURCHASED IT TO T ONE IN PST1 NATURE PRESERVE AND THE REASON WE DO THAT IS T ONE NATURE PRESERVE IS THE ZONING DESIGNATION THAT MOST ACCURATELY REFLECTS THE STATED GOALS FOR PRESERVE LAND THROUGH THE RURAL AND CRITICAL PROGRAM IN THE COURT PLAN AND IN ORDINANCE RURAL AND CRITICAL ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S WHY WE DO IT.

IT'S IT'S SORT OF AN IN-HOUSE HOUSEKEEPING EXERCISE THAT MAKES ALL OF THEM MATCH WITH THE NATURE PRESERVE ZONING DESIGNATION AND SO THAT IT IT MATCHES WHAT THE COURT PLAN AND THE RURAL AND CRITICAL ORDINANCE OF THE STATE THAT THE GOAL IS FOR THE PROPERTIES WE PURCHASE THEM. OKAY I'M GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC HEARING SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND THIS ORDINANCE 2020 601 IT'S FINE YES AND ANYONE HERE WAS TO SPEAK ABOUT ALL OF THESE NUMBERS OR HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY SO YOU KNOW AND I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING GO TO COUNCIL QUESTION OR COMMENT? GO AHEAD, MR. GLOVER.

YES. YOU KNOW WHEN THE RULE AND CRITICAL MAN PROGRAM GOT STARTED. THERE WERE A LOT OF CITIZENS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY COMING IN AND STEPPING IN SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE OFFERING THIS LAND FOR SALE, BLAH BLAH, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF AND EVEN THOUGH WE TOLD HIM THAT NO THIS LAND WILL BE TO ME THIS PUTS ANOTHER LAYER OF PRESERVATION ON THESE PROPERTIES SO SO I APPRECIATE THE STAFF COMING FORWARD WITH PUTTING ALL THESE PROPERTY IN THE T ONE NATURE PRESERVE OH NATURAL PRESERVE YEAH YES OKAY ANY OTHER COMMENT QUESTION I HAVE THIS FROM IS BARREL LANDING AND THIS ONE OF THESE NUMBERS THE BARREL ANY MOVE ONE OF THE FIRST THERE ARE MULTIPLE PARCELS WITHIN BARREL LANDING ONE OF THEM IS ON THIS LIST TO MAKE IT MATCH ALL OF THE OTHER

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IT'S A DEFINITE NO. THAT'S A DEFINITE NO. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO. I HAVE YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE UP MR. CUNNINGHAM? YEAH. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION SO I KNOW I ON THAT LAST VOTE BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANY ISSUES OF ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES BEING CONSIDERED SPOT ZONING.

I MEAN I KNOW WE'RE THE ONES THAT OWN THE PROPERTY BUT WE STILL HAVE TO UPHOLD THOSE SAME RULES HOLD OTHER PEOPLE TOO. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT DOES THIS FIT THE SURROUNDING AREAS OR COULD IT INFLICT ANY HARM ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES THAT ALREADY HAVE IT? SO I DON'T WANT TO DO IS IF IT'S SURROUNDED BY SOMETHING THAT'S MIDDLE TIER ZONING AND WE PUT THIS AS NATURE THAT NOW IF THEY TRY TO GO FOR AN UP ZONE OR CHANGE THEIR ZONING THAT, WE INFLICT A SPOT ZONING ON THEM SAYING WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING AREAS RIGHT SO SPOT ZONING AT ITS CORE IT HAS TO DO WITH INCOMPATIBLE USES AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A PRETTY FAR STRETCH FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THAT LEAVING VACANT PROPERTY AND DOWN ZONING IT AND ELIMINATING AT LEAST SOME POSSIBILITY OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT ZONING AGAIN I'D BE REALLY TOUGH TO TO BRIDGE THE GAP TO SAY THAT THAT IS SPOT ZONING BECAUSE IT'S NOT CREATING ANY KIND OF USES THAT WOULD BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES WHAT ABOUT THE FLIPSIDE WILL IT HURT ANYBODY ELSE'S SURROUNDING PROPERTY AND THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY? IN MY OPINION NO BECAUSE WOULD ALL HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND TO SAY WE DON'T WANT YOU TO UP ON IT BECAUSE THERE'S A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS A VERY LOW PROBABILITY OF EITHER BEING DEVELOPED. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD EVEN PLAY INTO THE CONVERSATION.

IT'S BY TELLING ME I WAS ONE OF THOSE NO VOTES AT THE COMMITTEE IN I ACTUALLY ASKED THAT SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE SPOT ZONING. MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS IF THERE'S REALLY NO THREAT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM ALLOWED FOR POTENTIAL AND FUTURE SELLING OF THE PROPERTY. I JUST DON'T REALLY TO BOND FUTURE COUNCILS TO THAT T1N DESIGNATION AND THEN HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY THE COUNCIL PROCESS OF CHANGING THE ZONING AGAIN IN ORDER TO MAKE IT MARKETABLE SO I THINK TOTALLY TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YEAH AND THE ONLY WORD THAT KIND OF STUCK OUT IS BIND FUTURE COUNCILS COUNCIL CAN ABSOLUTELY I KNOW THEY CAN BUT DO JUST THAT EVEN LOOKING AT THAT 2015 ORDINANCE THE ONE PAGER WE HAD WHAT A 20 MINUTE CONVERSATION SO AND AGAIN IT'S GOING TO STAFF'S DESIRE TO MAKE IT MATCH THE ZONING DESIGNATION WITH THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE THAT THE VOTERS VOTED PUT MONEY IN TO BUY IT AND TO US IT'S DUE IS WHAT IT IS.

IT'S JUST DOING OUR OUR PART TO MAKE EVERYTHING MATCH. I UNDERSTAND THAT.

YES, SIR. AND THE OTHER COMMON QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST A ROLL CALL VOTE. OKAY. AND WELL FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE TO READ THE I NEED TO READ THE THE MOTION WITH ALL THE IS AND IS NOT I MOVE THAT WE GRANT THE REQUEST FOR REZONING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE AND THE PURPOSES OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE .

IT IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OR AND OR OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. IT DOES ADDRESS A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED.

IT IS REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS. IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND PROPOSED USE OF LAND SURROUNDING LAND. IT WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT NEARBY LAND. IT WOULD RESULT IN LOGICAL AND ORDERLY PATTERNS AND IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WATER, AIR NOISE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE VEGETATION, WETLANDS THE NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT IT WOULD RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ADEQUATELY SERVED BY PUBLIC FACILITIES STREETS PART OF A WATER SEWER STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WASTE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SCHOOLS, PARKS POLICE, FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL FACILITIES. OKAY DOES THE MOTION EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THE MOTION FOR SECOND SECOND WE HAD A SECOND FOR THE GLOVER THE SECOND I'M SURE YOUR SECOND SECOND ROLL CALL PLEASE THIS STARTS HERE HOWARD.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES. COUNCILMEMBER REED'S YES.

COUNCILMEMBER PASSING IT YES. COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN YES. COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON MARK

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THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN FOUR OKAY. AT THIS TIME WE NEED TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT. JUST CONCLUDE THIS MEETING AND GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING. ALL RIGHT? OKAY. DO I NEED A MOTION TO ONCE WE ADJOURN THIS ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND RECONVENE RECONVENE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION? WE'LL GO BACK IN NEXT SESSION FOR THE SAME REASONS VOTED ON IN THE EARLIER SET OC ADJOURN THIS

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.