* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. THIS IS THE OCTOBER 15TH, 2025 BOARD MEETING FOR THE BOARD OF VOTER REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS OF BUFORT COUNTY. UM, LET'S START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. STANDS, ONE NATION, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. ARE YOU INTERESTED IN MAKING ANY COMMENTS? I AM. OKAY, GREAT. YOU'RE ON. SO MY NAME IS STEVE WILKINSON. I WORK, UH, HI. MY, UH, POSITION THERE IS NOT ON YOUR, UH, DESCRIPTION OF POSITIONS IN VOTING BECAUSE I WAS THE PARKING LOT ATTENDANT AND THE STREET, UH, TRAFFIC DIRECTOR. SO I, I CAME BECAUSE I'VE MENTIONED THE PROBLEMS THERE, A CO TO A COUPLE PEOPLE, AND THE RESPONSE WAS, OH, WELL THE, THE COUNTY'S GOING TO PAVE THAT PARKING LOT. THE PROBLEM IS NOT BEING PAVED OR NOT PAVED. THE PROBLEM IS THE PARKING LOT, UH, WAS TOTALLY INSUFFICIENT FOR THE VOLUME OF VOTERS THAT WE HAD. AND, UM, I, UH, WAS OUT THERE FROM AN HOUR BEFORE VOTING TO THE END AND, UM, TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE SOMEWHAT IN LINE. NOW, IF YOU HAD A, UH, PARKING LOT WITH PAINTED, UM, SPACES, THAT MIGHT HELP, BUT IT ALSO MIGHT HINDER IT BECAUSE THEY WON'T PAINT FACES TO DEAL WITH THE NUMBER OF CARS. AND IT'S LIKE THE, IT IS JUST LIKE A, A, YOU KNOW, A SYSTEM THAT'S SPENT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER FLOW AND YOU HAVE DOUBLE THAT. YOU HAVE A MONSOON AND IT BECAME VERY CHAOTIC AT TIMES. AND, UM, MY, MY COMMENT IS ONLY THAT I, I THINK THAT THE, THAT VOTING PLACE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING TO IT, THAT IT HAS IN THE PAST. THAT THE, UM, NUMBER ONE, UM, THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF, UH, PUBLIC DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC THERE. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THE PARKING LOT, EVEN WITH TWO OF US IN THE PARKING LOT, TRYING TO DIRECT PEOPLE, IT WAS PEOPLE BACK TO THE STREET AND THEN PARKING ON THE STREET. THIS, THERE, THERE WERE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF IT. IT BECAME A, I THINK A HAZARD, UM, AND A COUPLE MIRRORS WERE CLIPPED. THAT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, ANY BIG DEAL. BUT I'M SAYING THAT THAT'S, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT'S A, UH, PUBLIC, UM, UH, POLICING JOB. IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD HAVE, IF YOU'RE, IF SOMEBODY'S ON THE STREET DIRECTING TRAFFIC, IT SHOULD NOT BE A VOLUNTEER. IT SHOULD BE COUNTY OFFICER OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WHO HAS AUTHORITY AND WHO WOULD NOT BECOME A LIABILITY IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN THERE. UM, YEAH, SO I, I DON'T KNOW. I, I I EXPECT THAT YOU CAN'T CHANGE THINGS TO ALLEVIATE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. AND, AND AGAIN, LIKE THIS COMING, UM, ELECTION, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE MANY, MANY VOTERS. I, I DON'T THINK THE, UM, OBVIOUSLY IS NOT A PROBLEM IF YOU'RE NOT FILLING UP THE PARKING LOT. BUT ONCE IT FILLS UP AND YOU'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE CURBSIDE VOTING AND THE VOLUME OF PEOPLE, UM, I THINK THE BOARD NEEDS TO COME UP WITH SOME BETTER SOLUTION THAN WHAT WE DID. I'M, I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT AGAIN. IT WAS SIMPLY KIND OF A EXERCISE, NOT FRUSTRATION, BUT, UM, KIND OF OVERLOAD AS FAR AS, UM, YOU ALSO HAVE THE, THE SITUATION THERE WHERE YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE PARKING THERE, YOU HAVE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AND YOU HAVE OTHER, SO IT'S NOT JUST MOTOR, IT'S, [00:05:01] YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE BETTER WAY TO DEAL WITH IT. OKAY. STEVE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU STEPPED UP AND TOOK OWNERSHIP TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY DURING EARLY VOTING LAST TIME. SO I DIDN'T DO WAS GONNA DO IT RIGHT. SORE, APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AS WELL. SO WE, WE HAVE ASKED, UM, ADMINISTRATOR MORE TO HELP US WITH A PARKING STUDY. SO YOUR INPUT WILL BE HELPFUL, UM, FOR OUR FOLLOW UP WITH HIM ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT. JUST ADD ONE THING. SURE. UM, STEVE IS, UM, ONE OF MY EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT, UH, WORKERS. HE IS THERE DOING EARLY VOTING, DOING EVERYTHING, AND THEN HE HANDLES THE MOSS CREEK PRECINCT DOING A GREAT JOB. I ALWAYS TELL HIM THAT I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD, UM, FOR HIM COMING BACK. SO YEAH, WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THINGS DONE SO OUR WORKERS ARE SAFE BECAUSE AS HE SAID, UM, IF A FIRETRUCK GOT TO COME THROUGH, THEN YOU GOT TRAFFIC ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD OR AN AMBULANCE, IT COULD BE A MAJOR DISASTER. AND YOU DID HAVE FIRE TRUCKS. MM-HMM . THE FIRE TRUCKS HAD TROUBLE GETTING. AND ALSO YOU MENTIONED MONSOON. UH, WE WERE QUITE LUCKY NOT TO HAVE ANY RAIN DURING THOSE TWO WEEKS OF EARLY VOTING, BUT IF WE HAD HAD RAIN WOULD'VE BEEN AN ISSUE HERE AS WELL AS AT ER ROAD. SO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. OKAY. SEEING NO OTHER PUBLIC PRESENT, WE'LL MOVE, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 24TH. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE MINUTES? EILEEN MITCHELL? SO MOVE SECOND MR. WY SECONDS. OKAY. UH, COMMENTS? I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. SO IN THE LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS SECTION, I'D JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY IN THE THIRD BULLET, UH, WE, WE DID NOT PRESENT A RESOLUTION. WE PRESENTED, UH, THREE ISSUE DOCUMENTS. UH, SO LET'S CALL THEM ISSUE DOCUMENTS AND JUST SPECIFY THAT THEY HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD ON JULY 17. UM, AND THEN JUST A KIND OF A GENERAL DRAFTING QUESTION FOR THE NOTES, UM, SOMEBODY TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO CUT AND PASTE THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT INTO THESE NOTES. WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE JUST TO ATTACH A PDF VERSION OF THE BLACK AND WHITE, UH, DIRECTOR'S PRESENTATION? I DUNNO. IT'S JUST ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY, . OKAY. IT'S YOUR CHOICE. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE NOTES? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR TO ACCEPT BASED ON THE MOTION. AYE. OKAY. UNANIMOUS. OKAY. UH, NEXT IS COMMITTEE REPORTS. SO WE WILL START WITH MR. BACKER FOR BUDGET AND FINANCE. UH, NO NEW REPORTS SINCE WE MET. UH, JUST RECENTLY ON SEPTEMBER 24TH. UH, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO MEET PROBABLY IN THE SECOND HALF OF, UH, NOVEMBER AFTER THE ELECTIONS AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE STAND WITH, UH, THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET, WHAT SPENDING WAS, UH, FOR THIS ELECTION AND AN UPDATE ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. OKAY. UM, AND MR. COOPER WAS ON THAT COMMITTEE? CORRECT. OKAY. MAY I TAKE HIS PLACE FOR THE MOMENT? OKAY. UH, MR. FORD, ANY REMARKS FOR THE FACILITIES COMMITTEE? YES, THANK YOU. UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A FORMAL MEETING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REPEAT AGAIN THAT THE ISSUE REFERENCING THE SHELL HALL ISSUE IS ONE THAT WE HAD STATED THAT WE WOULD, UH, DISCUSS AT A NOVEMBER, POSSIBLY DECEMBER MEETING, DEPENDING ON, ON THE STAFF WORKLOAD. AND THE SAME APPLIES TO JUST SEE ONE AND TWO THAT MR. BECKER BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING. WE WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN RECONCILE THAT ISSUE AS WELL. SO WE HOPE TO BRING THOSE TWO ISSUES TO SURFACE AT THE, IF WE CAN DO IT THE NOVEMBER MEETING, WE'LL, IF NOT, IT'LL BE AT THE DECEMBER MEETING, BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM ARE EARTH-SHATTERING AND HAS TO BE DONE URGENTLY. SO I THINK WE HAVE TIME TO FACILITATE BOTH OF THOSE. [00:10:01] ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FORD? OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. I HAVE NO REPORT. UH, RE PRECINCT COMMITTEE. MR. I HAVE NO REPORT. NO REPORT RULES COMMITTEE. UM, WE NOW HAVE A, UM, OPERATIONS MANUAL. I THINK ALL OF YOU HAVE ONE AT YOUR PLACE AND I AM GOING TO ASK THAT, UM, THERE'S A DOCUMENT THAT ACKNOWLEDGES YOUR RECEIPT OF THAT, IF YOU COULD FILL THOSE OUT AND GIVE THEM TO CHRIS SO THAT WE HAVE A RECORD OF EVERY BOARD MEMBER WHO HAS RECEIVED A COPY OF THIS. AND THAT'S ALL. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. JOHNSON? OKAY. NEXT ON THE LIST, UH, UNFINISHED BUSINESS. SO APPROVAL OF VOTING EQUIPMENT ALLOCATIONS ON ELECTION DAY. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT POLL WORKER ALLOCATIONS. SO, UM, I, I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EQUIPMENT ALLOCATIONS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ASK VERNON? YEAH. TO FILL US IN ON? I THOUGHT THEY'D BE BACK BY NOW. THEY'RE ACTUALLY HAULING SOME, THEY HAD HAULED SOME EQUIPMENT OVER TO THE, THE STORAGE PLACE AND I THOUGHT THEY'D BE BACK SOON AS HE GETS BACK. WE CAN IF YOU WANT TO LIKE SWITCH THAT WITH UM, OKAY. INSURANCE. HOPEFULLY WE CAN DEFER THAT. UM, AND HOW ABOUT THE POLL WORKER ALLOCATIONS? DO WE HAVE SUMMARIES OF THOSE YET? UM, YOU SENT THEM. YEAH, THEY EXIST. , UM, I SENT THE UPDATED ONES TO MR. BACKER AND MS. MITCHELL BECAUSE THEIRS WERE CHANGED MORE DRASTICALLY. LIKE I THINK ONE, I THINK MS. MITCHELL GOT A NEW CLERK AND MR. BECKER GOT A COUPLE WORKERS DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR THE BRIEFING. OTHER THAN THAT, THEY SHOULD ALL BE THE SAME. SO THEY, THEY EXIST, THE, THE, THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE ELECTION HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED THOSE LISTS. OKAY. COULD WE, UH, MAYBE WHEN WE TAKE THE BREAK FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, COULD YOU PRINT OUT THOSE LISTS FOR US AND WE'LL TAKE A VOTE TO ACCEPT THEM TOGETHER WITH THE EQUIPMENT ALLOCATIONS? OKAY. UM, ON THE INSURANCE MATTER. SO, UM, I HAD A CONFERENCE, UH, A ZOOM CALL THIS MORNING WITH, UM, THE, UH, ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR AUDRA, UM, RISK MANAGEMENT KYLE JACKSON AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY BRIAN HALBERT, TO DISCUSS THE LETTER THAT I SENT TO MR. MOORE ADMINISTRATOR MOORE DATED OCTOBER 9TH. UM, THEY MET TOGETHER WITH MR. MOORE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND HAVE COME UP WITH TWO OPTIONS FOR US REGARDING INSURANCE. UM, THE FIRST OPTION WOULD BE TO PROCURE SOUTH CAROLINA INSURANCE RESERVE FUND GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE FOR US ON A STANDALONE BASIS FOR THE BOARD AND PURCHASE, UH, COMMERCIAL D AND O INSURANCE. AND THE SECOND OPTION WOULD BE TO PURCHASE BOTH GENERAL LIABILITY AND D AND O INSURANCE FROM A COMMERCIAL CARRIER. SO IT'S, UH, IT'S EXPECTED THAT BUYING BOTH OF THOSE POLICIES THROUGH A COMMERCIAL CARRIER WILL BE, UH, MORE COST EFFICIENT. SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF GETTING REVISED QUOTES FROM THE CARRIERS WHO PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED QUOTES FOR D AND O INSURANCE TO ADD GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE. UM, MR. JACKSON HAD ASKED IRF TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT OUR NINE PERSON BODY COULD BE ADDED TO THE COUNTY'S IRF POLICY FOR LIABILITY INSURANCE. AND THE, THE FINAL RESPONSE AFTER REVIEW IS, NO, WE CAN'T BE, SO WE NEED, WOULD NEED TO HAVE A STANDALONE POLICY. SO, UM, THAT'S REALLY THE STATUS. WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE THE COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, PURELY COMMERCIAL POLICIES VERSUS THE IRF RELIABILITY AND COMMERCIAL FOR D AND O AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION ON THAT. UM, AS FAR AS, UH, THE COSTS ARE CONCERNED, UH, THE RISK MANAGEMENT BUDGET WOULD COVER THE COSTS FOR THIS FINANCIAL YEAR, BUT FOR THE NEXT FINANCIAL YEAR WE'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE THE, UM, THE COSTS IN OUR BUDGET. SO, OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT INSURANCE? IS THERE A TIME LIMIT OR TIMEFRAME TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN? YES. ASAP. OKAY. YES. . OKAY. UH, SO, UH, MATT, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, YES. YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT DO YOU KNOW [00:15:01] WHAT THE COST WOULD BE? WELL, THE, THE COST FOR GENERAL LIABILITY FROM IRF IS ABOUT $10,500 PER YEAR. AND THE D AND O COVERAGE, UM, THE QUOTES HAVE BEEN BETWEEN SEVENTY FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE HUNDRED PER YEAR. SO IF WE GET THOSE BUNDLED TOGETHER IN A COMMERCIAL POLICY, UM, IT COULD BE LESS THAN THAT COMBINED 18, $19,000 PROBABLY WILL BE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. NEXT IS NEW BUSINESS. I DON'T HAVE, I'M SORRY. JUST ONE QUESTION ONCE WE HAVE THE QUOTES. WE'LL, RISK MANAGEMENT YES. IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, I DIDN'T GET INTO SUBSEQUENT YEARS, BUT, BUT FOR THIS YEAR THEY WOULD ISSUE THE REQUISITION AND PROVIDE THE FUNDING. YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO. OKAY. NEW BUSINESS? UH, I HAVE NO NEW BUSINESS. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. NEXT IS THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT SHARE. I NEED TO SHARE IT, BUT I, I NEED TO GO TO RIGHT IN. OKAY. OKAY. UM, FOR OUR REPORT TO SAY, AND I, I THINK EVERYBODY GOT A COPY OF IT. UH, THINGS WE WANTED TO GO OVER TODAY IS SOME MORE ELECTION UPDATES. NOT TOO MANY PRETTY NOTHING TOO MUCH HAS CHANGED. UH, WE DO HAVE SEAT ONE CCIP UPDATE AND THEN MISCELLANEOUS UPDATES. OH WOW. OKAY. UH, ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TOWN OF PORT ROYAL TWO SEATS, TOWN OF BLUFFTON, TWO SEATS, NO RUNOFF, TOWN OF , TWO COUNCIL SEATS AND THE MAYOR AND THERE OF ALL THREE. THAT MIGHT BE THE ONE WE HAVE A RUNOFF IN. AND IT MIGHT NOT DIRECTLY AFFECT US HAVING TO DO ANYTHING, BUT IF WE ARE ACQUIRED, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A RUNOFF WITH THEM. HOPEFULLY IT WILL, YOU KNOW, WON'T COME DOWN TO THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR SEAT. THE PUBLIC NOTICES HAVE GONE OUT. UM, THE FIRST WENT OUT ON SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH AND THE SECOND WENT OUT ON THE 19TH. WE WILL HAVING THE HAND COUNT AUDIT ON THAT NEXT DAY HERE AT 10 O'CLOCK, IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ONCE AGAIN. UM, WE HAVE ONE FROM BLUFFTON AND ONE FROM THIS SIDE. AND WE WON'T ANNOUNCE THAT UNTIL, UH, THE DAY OF THE ELECTION, WHICH TWO WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY USE. OH, YOU GOOD? YOU'RE HERE. ALRIGHT. THE CANVAS HEARING ALSO WILL BE HERE, ONCE AGAIN, BLACKTON WILL HANDLE THEIR OWN CANVAS HEARING. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WILL GO FIRST AND THE THREE PEOPLE IN THEIR MUNICIPAL ELECTION COMMISSION WILL GO THROUGH THEIR, UH, GO THROUGH THEIR HEARING JUST LIKE WE DO. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE WILL HAVE THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL AT 10 30. ONCE AGAIN, UPDATING, UH, LETTING US SEE ABOUT THE EARLY VOTING. IT WILL BE FROM THE 20TH THROUGH THE 24TH AND THE 27TH THROUGH THE 31ST AT BOTH PLACES HERE AND IN THE BLUFFTON REC CENTER, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING A DEEP CLEANING AT THE BLUFFTON REC CENTER TODAY TO MAKE IT, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR THE ELECTION. UM, WE WILL HAVE FOUR BMDS HERE AND SIX BMDS AT THE BLUFFTON OFFICE. AND ONCE AGAIN, THE BERN PARK OFFICE HAS BEEN OPEN SINCE THE 22ND ON A DAILY BASIS. [00:20:01] ALL POLL WORKERS AND THE STAFF ATTENDED THE TRAINING ON THE 10 ON EITHER THE 10TH, I MEAN THE SEVENTH OR THE NINTH. UM, AND CLERKS HAVE THEIR LIST OF WORKERS AND ARE IN CONTACT WITH THEM. GENE DID RESEND OUT ALL THE LEAD CLERKS, THEY'VE BEEN SENT THE LOCATION POC INFORMATION TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE PERSONS TO SET UP AND DETERMINE. AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO CALL THEIR WORKERS TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT TIME THEY WANT TO SET UP, EITHER THE NIGHT BEFORE, EARLY THAT MORNING, AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS INVOLVED HAVE THEIR LIST AS WELL. COULD YOU SEND US THE POINT OF CONTACT? OKAY. UH, DISTRIBUTION WILL BE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AT THE BLUFFTON LIBRARY FROM 11 TO 12. PORT ROYAL WILL BE BE HERE IN THE OFFICE, 11 TO FOUR. UM, PART OF THAT, AND, AND PART OF THOSE WILL ALSO BE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE, UH, FOR THE LEAD CLERKS AS WELL. AND DELIVERY EQUIPMENT WILL BE FROM NINE TO FIVE ON THE THIRD AT BOTH PLACES. UM, WE HAVE A TRUCK GOING TO BLUFFTON AND A TRUCK GOING TO, UH, WELL, WELL THE TRUCK GOING TO BEAUFORT AND TRUCK GOING TO BLUFFTON. ALSO, THE EARLY VOTING SETUP WILL BE TOMORROW FOR BLUFFTON AND IT'LL BE HERE ON FRIDAY. TESTING FOR ALL ELECTION DAY BALLOT STYLES. BOTH PAPER AND BMD WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS WEEK. WE DID HAVE ONE PUBLIC TEST ALREADY AND THAT WAS ON THE SECOND. WE ONLY HAD STAFF PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP. NOBODY FROM THE PUBLIC SHOWED UP. AND THE SECOND TEST WILL BE ON THE 30TH AT 10 O'CLOCK HERE. SO, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES SHOW UP OR WHATEVER FOR IT. UM, THE TECH TRAINING WOULD HAVE, IT WAS GONNA ORIGINALLY BE SCHEDULED FOR THE 16TH, BUT THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THE EARLY VOTING STUFF OUT. SO IT'LL BE ON THE 21ST AND THE 23RD. OKAY. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT STATUS. WE DID HAVE ONE MAJOR CIP THAT IS COMPLETED AND NOW IN EFFECT, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS IN A PUBLIC VENUE. SO THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU SOME IDEA WHAT IT IS. UM, IT IS WORKING AND ALL THE STAFF HAVE BEEN TRAINED ON HOW TO USE IT AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT, THEY, THEY'VE GOT THAT FINISHING COMPLETED AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS ONE ON OUR LIST AND IT IS DOWN AND GONE AND TOTALLY COMPLETED. AND IT IS PAID FOR, BEEN PAID FOR. UH, IT'S NOT OUT OF OUR POCKET, IT WAS OUT OF THE COUNTY'S POCKET. SO THAT IS DONE. THE OTHER ONES WE HAVE NO OTHER INFORMATION ON AT THIS TIME. AND THIS WAS THE, THIS WAS THE UPDATED, I TOLD YOU LAST MONTH THAT THE, BECAUSE MR. BECKER BROUGHT UP A QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBERS WEREN'T MATCHING UP AND HE WAS RIGHT. AND I WENT BACK AND WE RECOUNTED AND RECOUNTED AND, AND REALIZED, BUT THIS NUMBER, THIS ONE WAS CORRECT, THIS SLIDE WAS CORRECT. THIS WAS THE ONE, THIS ONE NEEDED TO BE CHANGED. 'CAUSE I THINK WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS UP THERE THAT WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO GET HERE. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A PERCENTAGE OF THE STATUS OF, UH, PRECINCTS WITHIN THEIR POLLING LOCATION. AND I MEAN POLLING LOCATIONS WITHIN THEIR PRECINCTS. AND THOSE THAT ARE OUT, WE HAVE 57 THAT ARE OUT, WHICH IS 43% OF WHAT WE HAVE. AND UM, HERE'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE 57 42 IN THE NEXT PRECINCT. THERE ARE 10 THAT ARE TWO AWAY AND THERE ARE FIVE THAT ARE THREE AWAY, WHICH COMES OUT TO THE 57. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. YES MA'AM. THOSE ONES THAT ARE LOCATED THREE AWAY THOSE SUN CITY. SUN CITY, YEAH. OKAYS, I THOUGHT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA EVER GET, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS ALIKE. IT'S, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. OKAY. UM, WE HAD THE COUNTY KICKOFF BUDGET KICKOFF MEETING ON LAST WEDNESDAY. UM, AND EACH, I THINK THEY TOOK THE ACAS DEPARTMENTS SEPARATELY THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE DAY. WE WERE AT ONE O'CLOCK. UM, THEY GAVE US THE BASICS CALENDAR, WHICH I WILL SEND TO EVERYBODY AND MR. BECKER AND FINANCE COMMITTEE AS WELL. UM, THE ONLY MAJOR THING, AND WE ARE, WE'RE KIND OF AHEAD OF IT, NOVEMBER 27TH IS WHEN THEY WANT CAPITAL REQUESTS DUE OR THEY WANT YOUR LISTING OF WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE FOR 27TH CAPITAL REQUESTS. AND WE ALREADY HAVE A LIST AND I'LL LOOK AT MAYBE WHATEVER ELSE WE MIGHT WANT TO ADD TO THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT BY NOVEMBER 27TH. BUT WE ARE AHEAD OF, UH, I THINK WITH THAT ONE THING I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WAS ANNOUNCED IN THE MEETING, UH, THE CFO WAS, WAS TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT, AS YOU SET UP YOUR BUDGET, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE ADMINISTRATOR REALLY LIKES IS IF YOU ITEMIZE, YOU KNOW, YOUR LINE ITEMS, HE'S GOING TO GO, HE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO LITERALLY GO THROUGH EVERYBODY'S BUDGET LINE BY LINE. UH, SHE SAYS HE, THAT'S HIS THING, HE WILL DO IT. UM, HE SAID IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, HE COMMENDED OUR OFFICE BECAUSE HE REALLY LIKED THE WAY WE HAD ITEMIZED OUR BUDGET LINE ITEMS AND, UH, THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD TAKE EXAMPLE FROM US HERE AT VOTER REGISTRATION. SO WE DID A GOOD JOB, . OKAY. [00:25:03] UM, OTHER MISCELLANEOUS UPDATES. THE SEC SENT A BALLOT RECONCILIATION IN-DEPTH REVIEW OF THE 2022 BALLOT RECONCILIATION FORMS FOR EVERY COUNTY. AND THEY ASKED US, THEY, THEY'VE GONE TO A NEW PREP METHOD AND I, I COMMENDED THE OFFICE ON THAT BECAUSE IN THE PAST THEY WOULD SAY GOTCHA. AND PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE HAD A CHANCE TO ADDRESS IT. THIS TIME THEY GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WHATEVER ISSUES WE THOUGHT THERE WERE. THIS HAS BEEN THE BANE OF ALL OF THE DIRECTORS IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE 2022, THE DIS DISPOSITION ON THOSE IS THAT THEY CAN BE DESTROYED OR WHATEVER. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAME IN AND AND COPIED ALL OF THE BALL CITY. WELL, NOT ALL THEY TOOK, THEY CHOSE, I FORGOT, I THINK THEY TOOK ONE PRECINCT. I MEAN THEY TOOK, WELL FOR US, THEY TOOK 43 PRECINCTS AND UM, RAN COPIES OF THOSE SCANDALS. 43. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WENT BACK AND STUDIED FROM 2022, WHICH WAS THREE YEARS AGO. AND THE ELECTION IS OVER. UM, BUT WE HAD EIGHT OUT OF 43 THAT WERE NOT FULLY RECONCILED. THAT WAS EITHER, UM, THE LINES WERE, THE, THE AMOUNTS OF CARDS WERE WRONG ON THE LINES WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UH, CLERK PUT IT ON THERE. 'CAUSE BACK THEN THE CLERKS WERE PUTTING ON THEIR NUMBERS ON THE LINE. FOR INSTANCE, I HAVE 75, I HAVE 1500 BALLOTS. AND SO COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY WERE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ALWAYS TELL 'EM, DO NOT OPEN IT UNLESS YOU NEED TO OPEN IT. AND THEY WERE SAYING LIKE, WELL SOME OF THEM ARE COMING IN OFF LIKE NINE. IT COULD BE AS MUCH AS NINE OFF. 'CAUSE THEY WOULD DO IT BY WEIGHT VERSUS WHAT'S REALLY IN THERE. SO SOME OF THOSE THINGS WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ANYTHING ABOUT. THEY HAD DID AN EXHAUSTIVE STUDY OF THE 2022 ELECTION TO COME UP WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY CAME, SOME OF 'EM, THEY WEREN'T LEGIBLE. SOME OF THEM, UM, THE MATH WAS WRONG, WHICH SINCE THEN, UH, WE ADDRESSED THE NEEDED CORRECTIONS FOR REVIEW AND WE RETURNED OUR RESPONSES BACK TO THEM AND THEY SENT THE FINAL DRAFT AND WE SENT BACK OUR FINAL RESPONSE. AND, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, WE DID VERY WELL COMPARED TO A LOT OF THE OTHER COUNTIES. YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT WERE ISSUES FOR US WEREN'T THINGS THAT WERE MAJOR ISSUES IN THE SCHEME OF HOW THIS, UH, REVIEW WAS. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, BEVERLY HAS JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, THE NEXT TIME THAT A TRAINING IS DONE ON THE COMPLETION OF THE BALLOT RECONCILIATION WORKSHEETS, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SIT IN ON THAT MEETING. BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE MONITORING OUR PRECINCTS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, THAT'S ONE THING THAT I NEED TO LOOK AT AT THE CLOSE OF THE DAY, WHETHER THEY'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR WHETHER THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE, UH, RECONCILIATION WORKSHEETS COME OUT RIGHT IN NOVEMBER, WE DID IT IN NOVEMBER, WE DID IT DIRECTLY FOLLOWING THE MANDATORY BRIEFING. AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL, BUT MOST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS DID STAY FOR THAT CLERK TRAINING AND, AND GOT THAT. SO, UM, THAT'S HOW WE'LL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO DO IT JUST BECAUSE THEN THE POLL WORKERS DON'T HAVE TO GO TWO DIFFERENT PLACES, TWO DIFFERENT TIMES, TWO DIFFERENT DAYS. YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S HOW WE'LL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO DO THAT. YEAH, I WAS SAYING THAT IT, IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE AT THIS ELECTION. SO IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD OBSERVE AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT. THE OTHER, GO AHEAD, MR. SWEENEY. UM, AND THE SAMPLE SIZE OF 43, WAS THAT 43 PRECINCTS OR 43 POLLING LOCATIONS? 43. IT'S POLLING LOCATIONS. WHAT THEY, I I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE AUDITOR AND THEY UNDERSTAND, UM, THE ISSUES INVOLVED. FIRST OFF, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME DO A DISCLAIMER. THIS WAS 2022. THIS IS 2025. THEY HAVE CHANGED THE PROCESS AND THE FORMS THREE TIMES SINCE THEN. RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. BUT THEY WERE SITTING THERE ASKING US TO DEAL WITH 2022 AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL WHAT DIFFERENCE DID IT MAKE? NOW YOU'VE ALREADY CHANGED THE PROCESS OR WHATEVER. BUT WE DID, WE WE FILLED EVERYTHING OUT AND DID IT. BUT UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY DID LIST IN THERE WAS BASICALLY, UM, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE AT THE PRECINCT LEVEL. SO I EXPLAINED TO THEM, AND, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT VERNON, ME, MARIE AND MIKE WAS SITTING ON A PHONE CALL WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE EP BS BECAUSE THE WAY THE EP BS ARE SET UP, YOU SET TWO EP BS. YOU SAY YOU HAVE A PLACE WITH MORE THAN TWO PRECINCTS AND YOU SET UP THE E PBS, YOU CAN GO TO ANY EPB AND CHECK IN SO YOU CAN USE THEIR CARDS. SO YOU CAN'T KEEP A TRACK OF WHOSE CARDS YOU'RE USING WHEN YOU HAVE, AND YOU CAN GO TO ANY EPB AT A POLLING LOCATION. SO WE, IN THE MEETING AND THIS, THESE WERE THE TECH GUYS ON THE PHONE WITH EVERYBODY 'CAUSE THEY WERE TEACHING US HOW TO USE THE BBS. AND [00:30:01] WE ASKED THE QUESTION, BEAUFORT ASKED THE QUESTION, WE SAID, WELL, IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE SENSE TO DO IT BY PRECINCT WHEN YOU HAVE A PLACE WHERE HAS MORE THAN ONE PRECINCT IN IT. WE HAVE TO DO IT BY THE LOCATION BECAUSE ALL THE CARDS CAN BE USED AT ANYWHERE IN THE LOCATION. I SAID, AND, AND THEY SAID, OH YEAH, Y'ALL ARE RIGHT. I SAID, WELL, AND THIS IS WHAT I SPECIFICALLY ASKED. I SAID, COULD YOU PLEASE SAY THAT OUT LOUD SO THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY CAN HEAR THAT THIS IS WHAT THE STATE IS TELLING US? AND THEY, AND THEY DID. THEY SAID YES, IF YOU ARE IN A PLACE WHERE IT HAS MORE THAN ONE PRECINCT, YOU DON'T DO IT BY PRECINCT, YOU WILL DO IT BY THE LOCATION ONE ONE. RIGHT. JUST ONE. SO THAT'S WHEN THAT CHANGED. BUT ON THE AUDIT REPORT, THEY WERE SAYING THEY WERE ADDRESSING THE LAW, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS WHAT THE SITUATION IS WITH THE LAW ABOUT HAVING ONE POLLING LOCATION, I MEAN ONE PRECINCT PER POLLING LOCATION. AND I, I, I SAID I GAVE HER THAT SAME STORY. I SAID, WELL THE STATE IS THE ONE THAT TOLD US THIS IS HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WITH THE EPDS. SO SHE SAID, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO MORE RESEARCH. I SAID, WELL, AS AN AUDIT AGENCY MAYBE Y'ALL CAN PUSH TO HAVE SOME LEGISLATION TO MAKE IT MORE REASONABLE. SO ALL OF US WON'T BE IN THAT SITUATION IN THE FUTURE. SO, YOU KNOW, SHE SAID, WELL THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO. 'CAUSE IF WE HAVE SOME BACK FACTUAL BACKGROUND SHOWING THINGS THAT ARE CAUSING ISSUES, BECAUSE THE WAY THIS LAW IS WRITTEN, IT MAY BE WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET SOME THINGS MOVING A LITTLE BIT FASTER. IT'LL HELP. IN OTHER WORDS, SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE CURRENT BALLOT RECONCILIATION WORKSHEETS ARE STILL, UH, BASED ON A SINGLE PRECINCT LOCATION? NO, BASED ON A SINGLE LOCATION. IT'S STILL BY LOCATION. 'CAUSE WE GOT EPDS YOU CANNOT CHANGE THAT UNTIL, BUT, BUT THE RECONCILIATION WORKSHEET IS NOW SET UP SO THAT YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHETHER THAT RECONCILIATION IS FOR MULTIPLE PRECINCTS IN ONE LOCATION VERSUS ONE. OKAY. SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON WHEN, WHEN YOU BROUGHT TO LIGHT THAT THE CURRENT RECONCILIATION SHEET DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE A SINGLE LOCATION WITH MULTIPLE PRECINCTS AND THEY SAID, OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT DOESN'T, DID THEY AGREE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE RECONCILIATION WORKSHEET? NO. WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS, WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS THAT SINCE WE USE EPS, THERE'S NO WAY TO DO ONE THAT SET THAT ITEMIZES IT BY PRECINCT. MM-HMM . BECAUSE THE BBS HAVE A TOTAL NUMBER. MM-HMM. SO THERE'S NO WAY TO PULL OUT THIS IS FROM PRECINCT, WHATEVER, WHATEVER, WHATEVER. I UNDERSTAND. SO WHAT HE WAS TALKING, THAT CONVERSATION WAS YEARS AGO. SO CURRENTLY IT'S STILL THE BUY LOCATION WAY. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY HAVE NOT WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY HAD PICKED UP A, I MEAN ONE OF THE STATEMENTS THEY MADE IN THEIR REPORT, AND THIS WAS FOR EVERY, THEY DID IT FOR EVERY COUNTY, NOT, NOT DISPUTE FOR COUNTY WAS, WAS THAT WE, WE NOTICED HOW THE LOCAL, THE RECONCILIATION FORMS AND SOME OF THEM WERE FOR MORE THAN ONE PRECINCT, IT SHOULD BE DONE AT THE PRECINCT LEVEL. AND THAT'S WHY I HAD POINT OUT TO HER, IT CAN'T BE DONE AT THE PRECINCT LEVEL WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE EPDS. AND SHE SAID, YEAH, WE KNOW WE GOTTA GO BACK IN AND DO MORE RESEARCH BECAUSE IT WAS ALMOST A THING OF AUDIT. THE AUDIT, THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT WAS TOLD DO THIS FROM 2022, BUT THEY DIDN'T GIVE 'EM ALL OF THE THINGS THEY NEEDED TO DO TO MAKE THE AUDIT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHY CERTAIN THINGS HAPPENED A CERTAIN WAY. AND YOU KNOW, I POINTED IT OUT AND SEVERAL OTHER DIRECTORS AND, AND WERE POINTING IT OUT AS WELL. AND I MEAN WE HAD CONSTANTLY, UM, WELL THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AS SCARE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IN THE CON IN ONE OF WHEN, WHEN THEY WERE SITTING, WHEN THE AUDIT PERSON WAS UP ON STAGE, WE ACTUALLY POINTED IT OUT THEN LIKE, Y'ALL ARE ASKING US TO ADDRESS 2022 WHEN YOU'VE CHANGED THE PROCESS THREE TIMES SINCE THEN. SO I I WE, NOBODY COULD UNDERSTAND WHY WE WERE DOING THIS WHEN WE COULD HAVE BEEN DOING LIKE SAY 2024 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY WANTED TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2022. AND WE WERE ADDRESSED BY THREE DIFFERENT, THREE AUDIT AUDITORS WITH THE SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND WE HAD, MARIE WOULD ALWAYS SAY, WELL Y'ALL ALREADY ASKED US THIS. AND WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHO NECESSARILY WAS DOING THAT PARTICULAR SHEET OR WHY IT WAS NOT LEGIBLE. THEY WERE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT STUFF THAT WAS THREE YEARS OLD AND WE DID IT THE BEST WE COULD. SO GOING FORWARD, UM, WE HAVE TO USE THE STATE PROVIDED FORM FOR THESE RECONCILIATION. WE CAN'T DO, YEAH. WE CAN'T MAKE OUR OWN. CAN WE TRAIN OUR CLERKS THAT AT THE TOP OF THE FORM THEY PUT THE NAME OF THE PERSON WHO FILLED IT OUT AND WHICH PRECINCTS ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE TOTALS? THEY DO. OKAY. THEY ARE DOING THAT. YEAH. THEY DO THAT. YEAH. OKAY. AND IT'S NOT A NAME AT THE TOP ON WHO FILLED IT OUT. THE CLERK HAS TO SIGN THE BOTTOM. SO THE SIGNATURE, OKAY, SO YOU'RE, IT'S THE SIGNATURE THAT TELLS US THE HEAD CLERK. AND YOU MADE ONE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THAT I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THEY COME WRAPPED UP IN GROUPS [00:35:01] OF 50 AND OUR CLERKS JUST SAY, OKAY, THAT'S 50 'CAUSE WE NEVER OPENED IT. IT'S 50 WE'VE NEVER OPENED. DO YOU SAY THAT THE AUDITORS DETERMINE THE NUMBER BY THE WEIGHT? YEAH. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID, YOU COULD, YOU COULD, LIKE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PLASTIC WRAP ONES AND PACKS OF 250. THEY WERE SAYING IT'S AND IT'S SOMETHING WE NOW WE TEACH THEM OPPOSITE. LIKE IF YOU DON'T OPEN IT, YOU KNOW IT'S TWO 50 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL YOU CAN BASE IT ON. THE WRAPPED ONES COME FROM THE STATE. YEAH. OKAY. THEY COME FROM THE STATE. RIGHT. SO WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS, WELL, UM, IF YOU SAT THERE AND AND RELIED ON THAT, THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU GONNA PROBABLY HAVE A PROBLEM. 'CAUSE SOME OF 'EM COULD BE NINE OFF 'CAUSE IT'S MEASURED BY, THEY SAY THEY WRAP IT BY WEIGHT, WHICH IS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE. NO, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT. BUT, BUT, BUT I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SAYING. BUT WHAT ONE OF OUR WHAT AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU WHAT WE, UM, RESPONDED. WHAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST, NOT LAST MONTH, A MONTH, THREE MONTHS PRIOR, VERNON AND THE STAFF TOOK EVERY OVER, I THINK WE HAD PROBABLY OVER 200,000 BALLOT CARDS. 2000. HUH? 10. OH YOU SAID 200? YEAH, 200 I KNOW 10,000. YEAH. AND UM, THEY RAN 'EM THROUGH THE FOUR 50 AT 75 A PIECE. I MEAN 75 OR 50 50 A BATCH. I MEAN 50 A PACK. AND SO WE KNOW NOW THAT ALL OF OURS ARE WRAPPED OR STRAPPED AT 50, WE BANDED THEM, WE BANDED THEM OURSELVES WITH THE, THE THE BANDS THAT YOU PUT AROUND THEM THAT TELL YOU THE SEQUENCE NUMBERS. WELL WE DIDN'T DO THE SEQUENCE NUMBERS, WE JUST BANDED THEM AND THEN WE PUT 'EM BACK IN THEIR WHITE BOXES THAT HOLDS UP TO 750 BALLOTS PER THOSE WHITE BOXES. AND UH, SO WE DID EVERY LAST ONE OF 'EM. SO WE CAN TELL OUR CLERKS THAT IF THEY'RE BANDED AND MARKED 50, THAT THEY CAN RELY ON THAT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND RECOUNT BECAUSE I KNOW RIGHT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO RECOUNT GO BACK AND RECOUNT 'EM TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ACTUALLY 50 IN THE BAND. RIGHT. AND WHAT WE DO NOW, WHAT WE HAVE DONE SINCE 20, WHAT WE, WE STARTED IT AFTER 2022, IS WE, WHEN WE GIVE THEM THEIR, EXCUSE ME, WHEN WE GIVE THEM THEIR CARDS, WE PUT THE NUMBER IN ON THE, ON THE FORM. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE 1500, WE PUT THAT AT THE TOP RIGHT. AND WHATEVER. AND, AND YOU HAVE UH, 30, UM, PROVISIONAL BALLOTS OR 30 PAPER BALLOTS. RIGHT. WE PUT THAT NUMBER IN. THEY WERE SAYING THAT A LOT OF PLACES DID NOT HAVE THAT. WELL WE HAD ALREADY STARTED DOING IT AFTER 2022. SO THEY WERE ADDRESSING THINGS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. OH, OKAY. YEAH. THEY WERE ADDRESSING THINGS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. YOU COULD PASS IT DOWN IF YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT IT. SO, OH, GO AHEAD. OH, GO AHEAD. YEAH. AND, AND, AND THEN ALSO I MADE A STATEMENT AND I'M SURE OTHER DIRECTORS MADE A STATEMENT THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE MORE PROACTIVE IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE HAVE A, IF YOU, IF YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH ISSUES THAT OCCUR AND NOT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE DISPOSITION RULE IS TWO YEARS AND THEY WANTED US DOING STUFF ON 3-YEAR-OLD STUFF. SO, YOU KNOW, I SAID IF YOU WANT MORE PROACTIVE AND EFFICIENT PROCESSES, HAVE IT BE DONE ON CURRENT THINGS AND NOT THINGS THAT ARE BEYOND THE DISPOSITION AGE AS WELL AS I, AND I COMMENDED THEM. I SAID, THANK YOU FOR, UM, ASKING US TO ADDRESS WHAT WE FIND AN ISSUE IN YOUR REPORT OR YOUR, YOUR REVIEW BEFORE YOU PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC EYE. BECAUSE I'D RATHER ADDRESS IT. BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE SEEN CASE IN POINT AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL KNEW ABOUT THIS SITUATION. THEY CAME, THEY SENT AUDIT, THEY SENT SOME OF THEIR STAFF DOWN DURING, WAS IT NOVEMBER? THEY DID THAT TO US. WELL THEY SENT 'EM DOWN TO THE EARLY VOTING SITES AND THEY DIDN'T TELL US THAT, THAT THEY WERE THERE. SO THEY WERE COMING TO DO NOT AN INSPECTION BUT KIND OF LIKE A, I THINK IT WAS THE PPP. THE PP WAS BECAUSE I WAS STILL AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. YEAH. AND THEY SENT US DOWN. THEY SENT THEM DOWN AND THEY DIDN'T TELL THEY WOULD COME IN AND THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU WHO THEY WERE. SO ALL WE COULD THINK OF THAT THEY WERE OBSERVERS AND WE PUT OUR OBSERVERS IN A SPECIFIED SECTION. SO WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY WERE, THE STATE DOESN'T MATTER 'CAUSE WE DON'T CARE. BUT THEY WENT BACK AND THEY CAME OUT WITH A REPORT AND THE REPORT SAID THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR IN BLUFFTON CENTER. THEY SAID, UM, NO SEALS WERE OBSERVED ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCANNER. AND I SAID, I CALLED ROZ. I SAID, ROZ, AIN'T THERE SEALS ON? SHE SAID, YEAH, THE SEALS ON THE CENTER. I SAID, WELL HOW COME THEY, SHE SAID, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THAT WAS THAT CAME, I NEVER, WE NEVER KNEW WHO IT WAS. THEY CHECKED IN AND SAY THEY WERE OBSERVERS OR WHATEVER AND WE PUT 'EM IN THIS SPOT. BUT THEY DON'T GET A CHANCE TO GO OVER AND LOOK ON THE OTHER SIDE. THE, THEY CAN'T SEE IT FROM THEIR OBSERVER SPOT. THEY CAN'T SEE IT FROM WHERE THEY ARE. SO THEY MADE A [00:40:01] STATEMENT THAT NO SEALS WERE OBSERVED. TECHNICALLY THAT'S A CORRECT STATEMENT. YEP. BUT PERCEPTIONALLY, IT'S AN INCORRECT STATEMENT 'CAUSE IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SEALS ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE THING. BUT THEY DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS ASK US ABOUT IT OR TELL US ABOUT IT. THEY PUT IT ON A PUBLIC REPORT AND FOR ALL FOUR OF US, THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T OBSERVE ABSENTEE BALLOT BOXES WHILE WE HAVE THEM HIDDEN. THEY'RE NOT JUST SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR CENTER. SO I, I TOLD I, SO I WENT AT SCARE. I WENT ROUND AND ROUND WITH THE AUDIT DEPARTMENT LEAD. I SAID, I SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT. THAT'S WRONG. Y'ALL KEEP TELLING US Y'ALL DON'T WANNA DO THESE GOTCHA MOMENTS. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I SAID OUT OUTSIDE OF SCARE IS THERE OF A FORUM WHERE YOU CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE SEC DIRECTLY. WELL THIS IS ON THIS REVIEW. THIS IS WHAT THEY HAVE CHANGED THE PROCESS AND ALLOWED US TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT I TOLD THEM. FEEDBACK. YEAH. I TOLD 'EM, I SAID, I COMMEND YOU FOR MAKING THAT ADJUSTMENT. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT CAME FROM US ALL. I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS THE ONLY ONE CRYING ABOUT IT, BUT I CRIED ABOUT IT FOR 30, 40 MINUTES. WE WEREN'T THE ONLY ONE. YEAH. I, I WENT ROUND AND ROUND WITH HER AND SHE SAID, NO, WE'RE GONNA DO IT LIKE THIS. I SAID, THAT'S NOT RIGHT. I SAID, I DON'T CARE IF YOU AUDIT US BECAUSE WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. PLEASE COME AND LOOK. TELL ME YOU COMING AND I'LL TAKE YOU STRAIGHT TO IT. THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME. I WANT TO BE AUDITED BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD THING. AND SO SHE SAID NO. I SAID, WELL YOU COULD HAVE TOLD THEM WHILE THEY WERE THERE AND WE WOULD'VE TAKEN YOU AROUND AND LET YOU SEE IT. WELL NO. 'CAUSE THEN THEY WOULD'VE TOLD THE OTHER EARLY VOTING SITE THEY WERE THERE. I'M LIKE, THAT DON'T MATTER. THAT'S RIDICULOUS. IT IS. WATCH OUT HERE GO. THAT WAS THEIR MENTALITY RANDOM. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS PART OF IT. THE WHOLE STATE KIND OF WENT OFF ON THEM. 'CAUSE THEY DID IT TO BE BERKELEY. THEY REALLY DID IT. THEY MESSED BERKELEY. I MEAN THEY JUST REALLY SLAMMED THEM AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY WERE GETTING SLAMMED UNTIL THEY SAW IT IN THE REPORT. THEY WERE SITTING ON PUBLIC VIEW. SO THEY CHANGED THE PROCESS AND THEY SAID, HEY LOOK AT THIS. IF YOU GOT A COMMENT OR WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT WE SAID, SEND IT BACK TO US AND, AND THEN WE'LL SEND BACK WHAT WE GONNA PUT OUT IN THE FINAL REPORT. SO I DID THAT, SENT IT, THEY HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THEY DEAL WITH THE, THE RECOMMENDATION, I MEAN THE THINGS THAT WE ADDRESSED. AND THEN THEY SENT IT BACK AND WE HAD THREE DAYS OR WHATEVER. AND THEN WE SENT THAT BACK SAYING, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THEN I PUT THAT LETTER IN THERE AND I READDRESSED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OR THINGS THAT WE HAD ALREADY DONE. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE WERE ONLY EIGHT, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS WERE REALLY ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ADDRESS 'EM IF THEY'RE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. SO I LET 'EM KNOW THAT YEAH, THESE WERE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. THIS IS WHAT WE DO, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE. AND THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THAT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, I, THIS WAS, THEY'RE GETTING BETTER. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THEY'RE GETTING BETTER. AND, AND THIS WAS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT. AND I LET THEM KNOW I APPRECIATED THEM, YOU KNOW, TAKING TO HEART SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OTHER, THAT THE COUNTIES HAD SAID IN REFERENCE TO THAT. SO THAT WENT VERY WELL. IT REALLY DID. I GET, I GET ONE QUESTION. I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED IT. THAT'S OKAY. HOW, HOW ARE THE BALLOTS COUNTED NOW WHEN YOU COUNTED 'EM HERE? THEY COUNTED ON A MACHINE OR BY HAND? WHEN, WHEN YOU SAY COUNTED NOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHEN YOU HAD, WHEN YOU COUNTED THE, YOU SAID YOU COUNTED 200,000, YOU PUT 'EM IN PACKAGES. WE COUNT ON THE DS FOUR 50. IT'LL COUNT THEM. YEAH. WE LET, IT DOES A TALLY AND THEN IT'LL SHOW THE NUMBER UP THERE AND EVERYTHING WHEN IT JUST DOES LIKE, UM, THAT'S GOOD. LIKE A, A FIELD TO THE, I'M GONNA BE VERY QUICK WITH THIS. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU ALL WAS DOING THAT BECAUSE, UM, IN THE BLUFFTON OFFICE, I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO, TO WENT THROUGH THE BOX AND VERIFY THOSE STRAPS OF 50. THAT'S FINE. THEY WERE AND WE JUST DID IT. WE JUST DID IT THIS SUMMER. YEAH. YEAH. BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THEY WERE RIGHT, THE ONES THAT I WAS COUNTING BECAUSE SOME OF THE CLERKS WERE SAYING, WELL MAYBE THEY'RE OFF AND THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T BALANCE THAT NIGHT. AND THAT WAS AN ISSUE. THEY WEREN'T TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE ONES THAT WERE SPOIL YOU. YOU GOT TO PUT THAT ON THAT WHEN I CHECKED BEHIND MY CLERKS. BUT WHAT I DID, WHAT I DID A FEW TIMES WHEN WE HAD THE DISCREPANCY AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, I WOULD USE THE, THE NUMBER THAT YOU ISSUED TO US AND THEN I WOULD PUT A, SO WE COULD DO THE REC, THE RECONCILIATION SHEET AND BALANCE IT. THEN I WOULD PUT A FOOTNOTE THAT WE FOUND ONE MISSING FROM PILE NUMBER, WHATEVER. BECAUSE SEE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ON, ON DIS A DISTRIBUTION DAY AND ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN THAT. IT'S LIKE WE, WE TELL 'EM GO AHEAD AND COUNT IT AND THEN IF IT'S WRAPPED WE SAY DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE TO COUNT. TRY TO COUNT 250. RIGHT. YOU'LL TAKE ALL DAY AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T GET OUTTA THERE. I AGREE. AND SO, UM, VERNON TOOK, THEY TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S, LET'S COUNT THESE. WE GOT 'EM HERE, LET'S JUST GO AND COUNT 'EM. THE MACHINE CAN BREAK IT DOWN AND NOW WE KNOW WE WON'T HAVE A DISCREPANCY IN THAT, IN THAT DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE A GREAT IDEA. YEAH. FOUND SOME PACKS, YOU [00:45:01] KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE WRAP PACKS THAT THEY COME. GREAT. THAT'S A BIG HELP. ALL PRECINCTS. SO WE HAVE 'EM ALL PREPARED, NOT JUST ONLY FOR THIS ELECTION, BUT FOR, SO FOR THE EQUIPMENT SEAL AUDIT, THAT WAS UNANNOUNCED. RIGHT? IT WASN'T JUST, THAT WASN'T THE ONLY THING THEY WERE LOOKING AT. THEY WERE LOOKING AT SEVERAL OTHER THINGS. IT WAS UNANNOUNCED AND THEY DID NOT GET TO GO AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE LOOKED. AND THEN THE BALLOT RECONCILIATION AUDIT, WAS THAT ALSO UNANNOUNCED OR DID WE WE KNOW IN ADVANCE IN 2022 THAT THEY WOULD BE AUDITED? NO, NO, NO. A FEW MONTHS AGO THIS WAS JUST DID THIS NO, WELL, YEAH, NOT TWO MONTHS. IT WAS LIKE, THEY STARTED THIS IN LIKE MAY A FEW MONTHS AGO. OH YOU SAID, I THOUGHT YOU SAID TWO. BUT BACK IN, BACK IN 2022, DID THEY TELL US IN ADVANCE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN AUDIT? NO, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN AUDIT. SO DO WE EXPECT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE AN AUDIT DEPARTMENT? DO WE EXPECT ANY UNANNOUNCED AUDITS FOR THIS UPCOMING ELECTION? NO. FOR MUNICIPAL? NO, NO, NO. THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR, THEY'RE THEY'RE KIND OF BUSY RIGHT NOW. MOSTLY, UH, UH, THAT MM-HMM . THE FIRST STEP THAT THEY'LL BE PRIVATE MONITORING AND THEY DID NOT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES TO THE CLERKS. THEY JUST SAID THEY WERE OBSERVERS. YEP. UH, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THE CLERK TO CALL LIKE THE OFFICER OR OTHER ONE CALL JEAN AND SAY, HEY, THEY'RE COMING OVER HERE NEXT, NEXT. AND THEY STARTED WITH ME AND THEN THEY WENT TO BLUFFTON AND THEN ROSALYN REACHED OUT AND SAID, I HAD THESE TWO OBSERVERS. AND I WAS LIKE, OH, I HAD THEM TOO. SO THEN CHRIS AND JAMIE WERE ON NOTICE. IT JUST SEEMS THAT AS A CLERK, IF I'VE GOT AN OBSERVER WHO'S TRYING TO LIKE LOOK AROUND AND FIND THINGS THAT MAYBE AN OBSERVER DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO SEE, IT WOULD HELP IF THEY IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AS AUDITORS AND THAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR LIKE A LIST OF THESE THINGS AND COULD THE CLERK PLEASE SHOW ME? LIKE YOU SAID, THE ABSENTEE BALLOT, THEY HAD A PAPER AND THERE WERE TWO OF 'EM AND WE COULD SEE THEM WITH THIS PAPER GOING, BUT THAT'S ALL WE KNEW. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. YOU KNOW, OBSERVERS AND WATCHERS DO THAT ANYWAYS. BUT WE JUST WERE LIKE, OKAY. BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT AS A CLERK, I WOULD BE A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH SOMEONE COMING IN AND YOU KNOW, WALKING, TRYING TO WALK AROUND AND LOOK FOR THINGS. WELL THEY CAN'T, WE DON'T LET 'EM, THAT'S THE ISSUE. ISSUE. WELL IF, IF THEY'RE AN AUDITOR, THEN YOU SHOULD BE LETTING THEM DO THAT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I TOLD, THAT'S WHAT I TOLD PARTNER. WE WOULDN'T LET YOU SEE IT. I SAID, I SAID, I SAID, WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST TELL 'EM WE'RE, WE'RE WITH THE STATE AND WE'RE WE'RE COMING TO LOOK AT THE STUFF. I SAID, THAT'S ALL I SAID. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU DOING THAT. THAT'S FINE. SO JUST TELL 'EM. AND SHE SAYS, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT. BECAUSE THEY'LL TELL THE OTHER OTHER SITES THEY'RE COMING. WELL, AND WHAT WE TOLD THEM WAS, IF THAT'S YOUR CONCERN, HAVE SOMEBODY AT ALL FOUR OF OUR SITES AT THE SAME TIME TIME, ARE WE RESPONSIBLE THOUGH, TO SEND SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T LOOK BEHIND THE MACHINE FOR THE, FOR THE SEALS? WELL THEY CAN'T, THEY DIDN'T LOOK BEHIND THE MACHINES. THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T. THEY'RE JUST OBSERVE. THEY CAN ONLY SIT IN ONE SPOT. THEY CAN'T GO OVER AND LOOK AT EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING. THEY, BECAUSE YOU DON'T IDENTIFY YOURSELF, WHY BOTHER SENDING THEM? THAT'S WHY IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO HAVE SOME SORT OF OFFICIAL IDENTIFICATION. WE TOLD THEM THAT SAYS YOU'RE AN AUDITOR FROM THE SEC AND I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT KIND OF THING. KNOW WHAT AN OBSERVER, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW 'CAUSE THEY WERE FROM RANDOM COUNTY. THEY WERE IN TRAINING MAC, THEY WERE, THEY WERE TRYING, THEY WERE IN TRAINING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING. 'CAUSE IN BANKING, WHEN THEY COME IN TO AUDIT, THEY LET YOU KNOW AND THEY HAVE THAT BADGE. AND WHERE SHE TOLD NO, SHE SPECIFICALLY SAID, WE'RE NOT GONNA TELL YOU THEY'RE THERE. THAT'S WHAT SHE TOLD ME. AND I MEAN, I I THEN YOU CAN'T BE WRITTEN UP FOR ANYTHING. THAT'S, THAT'S MY MENTALITY ABOUT IT BECAUSE, AND THEN THEY, AND THEN, BUT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL REMEMBER Y'ALL, I THINK Y'ALL WERE THE SCARE AND AND THEY WERE UP ON THE STAGE AND SHE SAID, WELL WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO THESE GOTCHA THINGS WITH Y'ALL. I SAID, YES YOU ARE. WHEN YOU DO IT THAT WAY, IT'S A GOTCHA. AND THEY WOULD LIKE, I THEY WOULD PUT IT OUT WITHOUT YOU HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT BEFORE THEY PUT IT OUT. AND SO THAT ONE REALLY, I, WHEN THESE GUYS WORK SO HARD TO GET THE STUFF RIGHT AND THEN YOU SIT THERE AND SAY THAT THEY DIDN'T DO IT AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT. AND I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT IN TRYING TO MAKE YOU LOOK BAD. YEAH. TO MAKE YOU LOOK BAD. AND I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH WORK GOING ON THAT GETS DONE AND DONE CORRECTLY. AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA SIT THERE AND TRY TO EMBARRASS OUR COUNTY BY SAYING WE DIDN'T DO SOMETHING. AND SHE SAID, WELL THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING. I SAID, YES IT IS. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SEE. THEY SEE THAT YOU SAID THEY DIDN'T SEE US WELL I ALWAYS SAID IS WE DIDN'T SEE IT. WELL YEAH, YOU DIDN'T SEE IT 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GO OVER AND LOOK. 'CAUSE [00:50:01] I AIN'T GONNA SHOW YOU UNLESS YOU TELL ME YOU ARE AN AUDITOR AND I'LL TAKE YOU OVER THERE TO SHOW YOU. SO IT, IT WAS JUST REALLY FRUSTRATING AND AND SHE WOULD NOT BUDGE. ALL RIGHT. WHY, WHY, WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON? I THINK, I'M SORRY. WE ALL KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THE AUDITING DEPARTMENT IS NEW LESS THAN FIVE YEARS. THEY'VE GOT SOME GROWING PAINS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE RECEPTIVE TO FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNTIES SO THAT, THAT'S OKAY. NOW THEY'RE YEAH, . GREAT. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON. UM, THIS WAS JUST REPEAT FROM LAST MONTH. UH, WE WILL, AFTER THE ELECTION, WE WILL MAIL OUT THE NEW CARDS. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I TALKED WITH MR. SWEENEY ABOUT THIS, THE, THE CARD. THEY, THEY, THEY CALLED ME AND ASKED WHAT MY SIGNATURE IS. OH, COME ON. WHAT? UM, HELLO? SORRY. DO I JUST SIT OKAY OR OH NO BURNING WENT AHEAD. YEAH, SO TO STAND AND CLICK, CLICK FROM CLERK CURRENT SLIDE, THE LITTLE ICONS THAT ARE KEEP GOING UP, UP ABOVE, UP RIGHT THERE. . OH MY GOODNESS. ANYWAYS, WELL, UH, THE STATE CALLED AND THEY ASKED ME FOR MY SIGNATURE TO PUT UP THEIR, UH, ON THE CARDS. AND I SAID, WELL I CAN'T, I'M NOT THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE NEED TO DO WE, WE WANNA PUT SOMETHING ON THERE. I SAID, WELL, UM, TO HAVE, HAVE JENNY WHO'S AT THE STATE RUNNING THE STATE RIGHT NOW, SAID TO HAVE HER PUT HERS ON THERE. AND SO THEY CHECKED AND SHE WAS NOT GOING TO PUT HERS ON THERE. SO I SAID, WELL, CAN WE MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT? SO THEY PUT DEPUTY, I SAID, PUT DEPUTY DIRECTOR IN THERE MY NAME. SO THAT'S HOW, AND I TALKED WITH MR. SWEENEY. HE SAYS, YEAH, THAT'LL BE A GOOD, BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T PUT SOMETHING ON THERE, THE VOTERS WERE GOING TO SIGN IT IN. THAT'S FINE. SO, AND THEN WE DO HAVE VOTERS WHO ARE LIKE, WELL WHY DON'T I HAVE A SIGNATURE ON HERE? AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN A BIG STINK. SO WE JUST GOT THAT TAKEN CARE OF. SO THAT'S WHY MINE WILL BE SHOWING UP UNTIL THE NEW DIRECTOR IS CHOSEN. AND UM, WE'VE HAD TWO REQUESTS FOR A COMMUNITY FORUM. ONE OF 'EM WAS FROM A POLL WORKER. HE'S A NEW BRAND NEW POLL WORKER. AND UH, HE HAS A, HE WANTED US TO COME OUT TO THEIR CHURCH AND LET, HE SAID, 'CAUSE YET OUR PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF. I, THE STUFF I LEARNED WAS GREAT. AND, UH, THEN WE HAD A, FROM THE COMMUNITY SING ON ST. HELEN, THAT'S A THING THAT THEY DO MONTHLY WHERE ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON THEY'LL HAVE SOME GOT SINGING AND THEN THEY HAD PUBLIC TYPE FORUMS. AND I, I TALKED WITH JEAN AND WE BOTH KIND OF AGREED THERE'S NO NEED TO GO UNTIL THE NEW YEAR BECAUSE THE STUFF THAT WE'D BE TELLING THEM NOW IS GENERIC. SO WHAT WE GONNA START IN JANUARY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA EXPLAIN WHAT'S GONNA BE GOING ON WITH THE PRIMARIES. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE KNOW IS GONNA COME UP IS LIKE THE SHERIFF'S RACE. SO WE WANT TO GO INTO DEPTH IN A YEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT AND EXPLAIN THAT KIND OF STUFF TO 'EM IN THE PUBLIC FORUM. SO THERE WON'T BE ANY, UH, ISSUES AND MISCONCEPTIONS WHEN THE ELECTION DOES TAKE PLACE BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD PEOPLE COMPLAINING US, WHY CAN'T I VOTE ON THE SHERIFF THING? SO WE CAN EXPLAIN THAT STARTING WITH THE NEW YEAR. THE OTHER THING BEHIND THAT IS EVERY FORUM WE GO TO, WE TALK ABOUT ABSENTEE VOTING AND HOW YOU CAN START AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, CALL THE OFFICE AND GET ABSENTEE VOTES FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. WELL IF WE'RE STARTING IN JANUARY RIGHT THEN AND THERE, IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN TURN AROUND AND DO ON THE SPOT AND GET IT DONE VERSUS HEARING IT IN OCTOBER AND NOT THINKING ABOUT DOING IT ON JANUARY THE SECOND. SO ALL OF OUR FORUMS, WE, YOU KNOW, AND BOTH OF THE PEOPLE SAID, OH THAT'S GREAT. THEY SAID, ACTUALLY THAT'S BETTER FOR US. SO THAT'S TWO THAT WE DO KNOW THAT WE'RE STARTING OUT WITH IN JANUARY TO, UH, AS FAR AS FORUMS AND, AND WE'RE HOPEFULLY, UM, AS WE DO FORUMS THIS GO ROUND, WE CAN GET A BETTER WAY TO GET IT, HAVE MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP THAN US GOING OUT THERE AND THREE PEOPLE ARE SHOWING UP. WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OUT THERE. SO THERE'S SOME ADJUSTMENTS WE'RE GONNA MAKE AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. BUT THESE ARE TWO THAT WE KNOW ARE GONNA BE WELL ATTEND BECAUSE THEY ASKED US TO COME AND EVERYTHING. IS IT YOUR PLAN TO UH, JUST BE RESPONSIVE TO REQUESTS PEOPLE WHO ASK FOUR FORUM NO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR SCHEDULE. WE HAVE SCHEDULE. ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A SCHEDULE THAT SAYS WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT FORUMS NORTH OF THE BROAD EIGHT FORUMS CENTRAL, EIGHT FORUMS HILTON HEAD AND THEN YOU'LL DECIDE THE BEST LOCATIONS. YES. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AS WELL AS ANYBODY REQUESTING IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK OR WHATEVER, OR WE CAN FARM THEM INTO ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD SET UP. SO, UM, THE THING IS, I I THINK ESPECIALLY THIS NEXT YEAR IS GOING, I, AND I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM CAN AGREE THE CONTENTIOUSNESS THAT MAY HAPPEN WITH ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE THAT THEY NEED TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME [00:55:01] VERSUS THEM COMING BACK AFTER ELECTION COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T REALLY AN ISSUE. SO WE ARE REALLY GONNA MAKE A, A REALLY CONCERTED EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS OUT AHEAD OF TIME. SHOW UP AND LEARN EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW. AND THIS WAS WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY BOTH HEARD WHY WE SAID WE WANNA PUSH IT TO, THEN THEY AGREED THAT IT MADE MORE SENSE TO DO IT LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT WILL BE RELEVANT VERSUS RIGHT NOW IT WOULDN'T BE RELEVANT. SO, UM, WE HOPE WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BEING VERY POSITIVE NEXT YEAR AS FAR AS OUR FORUMS AND OUTREACH IS CONCERNED, REACHING A LOT OF PEOPLE AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION. OKAY. WHEN YOU MAKE THAT SCHEDULE, WOULD YOU SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD PLEASE? ALWAYS. YEAH, WE GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU? YEAH, ALWAYS. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THAT. WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THAT SCHEDULE AND UM, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE, THE CLASS SCHEDULE AS WELL. 'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE DATES PICKED OUT FOR THAT. SO WE'LL GIVE EVERY, GIVE ALL OF THAT TO THE BOARD. THAT'S IT FOR THAT. ANY ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU GOING OVER? YOU? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, WHY DON'T WE GO BACK TO THE EQUIPMENT ALLOCATION BECAUSE I SEE WE HAVE SOME REVISED ALLOCATIONS HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, MR. CHAIR, UH, TO THE, THE, THE SHEET I GAVE YOU, UH, ALL YOU LAST FOUR MEETING, THAT WAS, UH, AND I DID MAKE A FEW ADJUSTMENTS HERE, UM, WITH OUR BALLOT MARKING DEVICES, BUT THE E FOUR BOOKS ARE MATCHED UP WHERE THEY WOULD, UH, BE SURPRISED FOR A LOT OF LOCATION. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, DOWN OVER AT, UM, MAY RIVER HIGH SCHOOL. I THINK I HAD A SHORT NUMBER ON THERE BECAUSE I GOT TO ADJUST. BUT UM, THIS, WE HAVE PARK SIDE AMENITY. WE WILL HAVE THREE TESTING. OKAY. AND, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, ENOUGH, UH, SUFFICIENT, UM, ELECTRIC FOLKS THAT DO WANT OUR POLL WORKERS TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THEM. EVEN WITH THIS TOWN OF LUCK IN THE ELECTION WITH IT BEING TWO CANDIDATES, PUBLICATIONS OR ANYTHING. I DON I DID SEE SOMETHING WHERE THEY WERE SAYING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE TWO CANDIDATES MENTION THAT THE ELDER CANDIDATE HAVE WITH LAST MONTH, BUT I DON'T SEE TALK ABOUT IT. IT, UH, WITH THAT ONE, UH, COUNTER POOR OIL, WE'RE LOOKING AT A GOOD STEADY FLOW OF, UH, VOTERS COMING OUT FOR THAT ONE. SINCE COUNTY GATTY, SINCE WE SHARE WITH, UH, HAMPTON COUNTY, THIS ONE WILL PROBABLY BE THE, NOT NOT FOR US OR OUR SIDE ON ER COUNTY, SINCE WE ONLY HAVE 80 VOTERS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, THAT ELECTION. BUT IN, I GUESS IN HAMPTON COUNTY, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE A LOT BIGGER TURNOUT FOR THAT ONE BECAUSE THERE'S FIVE CANDIDATES GOING UP FOR UM, OR GOING FOR MAYOR AND FIVE GOING FOR THE TWO VERNON. CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT, UM, MAY, MAY RIVER BAPTIST CHURCH SURE. AND MILL CREEK C AMENITIES CENTER. SURE. THEY EACH HAVE HAVE ASSIGNED TWO BBS. UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PARKSIDE WITH THREE, THOSE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS HAVE SIMILAR NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS WAS. WELL, THE PROCESS IS, BUT BASED UPON THE TURNOUT WE'VE HAD NOW, I, WHEN I WENT BACK TWO YEARS AGO WITH, UH, THE LAST ELECTION, IT WAS A COUNTYWIDE ELECTION BECAUSE OF A SCHOOL BOND , THE TURNOUT WAS ACTUALLY LOW, WELL LOW WITH THE MUNICIPAL SIDE, BUT WITH THIS ONE BEING TWO CANDIDATES, UM, I DON'T FORESEE US HAVING 24, UH, 2,400 PLUS . OKAY. UM, SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SO BACK, UM, ON THIS ELECTION, LIKE, UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE LAST COUPLE ELECTIONS, UM, I SAW THAT THERE WERE, THAT BECAUSE WE HAD A COUNTYWIDE, WE HAVE MORE PARTICIPATION WITH THE SCHOOL BOND REFERENDUM. SO WITH THIS ONE, I WAS LOOKING AT IT LIKE WE DO HAVE, LIKE YOU GOT, UM, BETWEEN BOTH OF THOSE PRECINCTS, YOU HAVE 20, UH, 24, UH, 2,490 VOTERS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE ELECTION. UH, RIGHT NOW FOR ABSENTEE MAIL, WE ONLY HAD NINE BALLOTS THAT WAS REQUESTED. AND FOR THE TURNOUT, MOST OF THESE TURNOUTS LIKE THIS, LIKE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS ACROSS THE STATE, YOU BARELY WILL EVEN GET THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT WILL SHOW UP FOR THIS TYPE OF ELECTION. IT'S ONLY TWO CANDIDATES, AND IT'S TWO SEATS TO FILL. SO USUALLY WITH THIS ONE, UM, I LOOKED AT, UM, I DON'T FORESEE A WHOLE HEAVY TRAFFIC GOING INTO MAY RIVER BAPTIST. AND WITH THE FLOW OF VOTERS COMING IN, THE LONGEST PROCESS WILL BE CHECK IN YOUR, YOUR VOTERS WILL BE IN AND OUT WITHIN, UNDER FIVE MINUTES WITH, UH, JUST BY GETTING ON THE MACHINE TO VOTE. AND, UM, YES MA'AM. UM, PORT ROYAL TOWN HALL IS MY HEAVIEST, UM, NUMBER OF VOTERS. YES, [01:00:01] MA'AM. AND, UM, IN, UM, SEPTEMBER YOU HAD THREE, UH, EPDS AND THEN YOU TOOK AWAY ONE TODAY AND MADE IT TWO. I CAN, I CAN ADJUST THAT. YES, MA'AM. YEAH, I CAN DO THAT. BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE THERE WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UH, POLLING PLACE OPENS UP. IN FACT, THEY HAVE LINES AROUND THE BUILDING. THOSE ARE REAL FLUID, UM, VOTERS THERE. UH, I CAN, UM, FOR MAY RIVER, YOU SAID, UM, MR. BACKER, YOU SAID, WHICH MAY, RIVER CHURCH. BAPTIST CHURCH. MM-HMM . DID YOU LIKE TO REQUEST THREE ELECTRONIC POLE BOOKS FOR THAT ONE? I THINK WE CAN HANDLE IT THERE. UM, AT MILL CREEK. MILL CREEK. THE THE, THE ROOM REALLY IS RELATIVELY SMALL. YES, SIR. SO TWO RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE WILL PROBABLY WORK FOR US. OKAY. 'CAUSE THAT ROOM DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T FLOW THAT WELL. AND IT JUST, AND I, AND I'M WILLING TO ADJUST, LIKE, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I MEAN WE JUST, THESE ARE LIKE BASED UPON ESTIMATES ABOUT THE ELECTION, THE TURNOUT, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF HOW THEY WERE SHOWING UP AND, UM, MAKING SURE WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. YES, MA'AM. HISTORICALLY, ROBERT SMALLS LEADERSHIP ACADEMY. YES, MA'AM. UM, THIS GROUP TENDS TO COME HEAVILY, UM, DURING THE LUNCH HOURS AND AFTER WORK. AND I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, FOUR INSTEAD OF THREE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A THOUSAND VOTERS, THEY KINDA DO AN INFLUX AT A CERTAIN TIME. WELL, IT'S, IT'S FOUR, UH, BALLOT MARKETING DEVICES. IT'S TWO GROUPS. IT'S THREE PLUS ONE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UM, I'M TALKING ABOUT BALLOT MARKING DEVICES? YEAH. BALLOT MARKING. YOU LOOK AT YOUR TOTAL NUMBER IN RED, EXCUSE ME, I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT, ? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT, UM, IT'S THREE UNDER BALLOT MARKING DEVICE AND SLEEVE. AND THEN YOUR CURBSIDE CART, RIGHT TO THE RIGHT OF IT. IT'S ONE THAT'S FOUR. I SEE, I SEE THE CURBSIDE. THAT'S FOUR BMDS. YES, MA'AM. YOUR TOTAL ISN'T RED IS, UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER THAT WILL BE AT THAT LOCATION. SO YOU, YOU WANT, YOU WANT FOUR, YOU WANT FOUR BMDS AND THEN THE CURBSIDE CART. SO IT'LL BE FIVE. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THINK BASED ON MY OBSERVATION, BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE, YOU GOT TWO PRECINCTS. THERE'S MY VISUAL OBSERVATION AND THE TIMES THAT THEY COME TO VOTE IS AN, A HUGE INFLUX DURING THE LUNCH. YES, MA'AM. AND AFTER WORK. AND I WOULDN'T WANT JUST A LARGE NUMBER TO JUST SHOW UP, BUT IT'S JUST TWO TIMES DURING THE DAY THAT THEY SHOW UP. MA'AM, MA'AM, THIS POPULATION WORKS, AND THEY, UH, SHOW UP. OKAY. DURING THAT BREAK BETWEEN WORKING. I CAN ADJUST THAT RIGHT THERE. OKAY. UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY PULLING LOCATIONS YOU MIGHT WANNA RECOMMEND OR, I BELIEVE MINE AS IS OKAY, ? YEAH, I GUESS I, I HAVE A, A GENERAL QUESTION. I, I THINK GIVEN THE, THE EXPECTED TURNOUT FOR THE ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 4TH, IT'LL BE LESS THAN 10% TURNOUT EVERYWHERE, MOST LIKELY ON ELECTION DAY. UH, I BELIEVE THAT THE EQUIPMENT ALLOCATIONS ON THE SHEETS WILL BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE VOTERS, INCLUDING THE ADDITIONS REQUESTED BY MS. DOER. UH, JUST A QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE PROCESS TO COME UP WITH THE COUNTS THOUGH, BECAUSE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE LOCATIONS FOR EPPS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE ABOUT 600 VOTERS. SIX OR 700 VOTERS. YES, SIR. PER EPB. BUT IN SOME CASES IT'S DOUBLE THAT. UH, LIKE PORT ROYAL TOWN HALL ORIGINALLY ONLY, UH, TWO EP BS FOR 2,600 VOTERS. THAT'S ABOUT 1300. IT'S ALMOST TWICE AS MANY VOTERS PER EPB MM-HMM . SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE PROCESS FOR CALCULATING THE NUMBER, UH, OF EQUIPMENT. IT'S USUALLY, UM, WELL, I DO, WE DO HAVE A FORMULA THAT WE DO USE, UH, FOR THE AMOUNT OF, NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS PER, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS SHOWN, SHOWN HERE. YES, SIR. THE NUMBER OF REGISTER VOTERS. AND, UH, BUT USUALLY WHAT I DO IS I, WHEN I, LIKE I SAID, I USUALLY, WE LOOK AT THE PRACTICALITY OF THE ELECTION, LIKE HOW THESE ELECTION TURNOUTS ARE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HOW THE TURNOUT MIGHT BE AND THE, THE THE YEAH, MAYBE I WASN'T CLEAR. YEAH. WE ARE EXPECTING ABOUT THE SAME TURNOUT ACROSS THE COUNTY, SOMETHING LESS THAN 10%. SO THE DIFFERENCE IN TURNOUT IS NOT A FACTOR IN THESE. WELL, YOU, THESE ARE THREE SEPARATE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. THESE ARE, WE, WE CAN'T COMBINE 'EM, WE'RE COMBINING THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'RE PROGRAMMED TOGETHER. BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH MUNICIPAL ELECTION AS A SEPARATE, THERE'S THEIR OWN SEPARATE ENTITIES AS FAR AS NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE TURNOUT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT THE SAME FOR EACH MUNICIPAL ELECTION. YES, SIR. RIGHT. IF WE GET SIX OR 7% PER MUNICIPAL ELECTION, IT'S THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF REGISTERED VOTERS. YES. . SO THE RATIO OF EQUIPMENT TO REGISTERED VOTERS SHOULD BE CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL VOTING LOCATIONS. WELL, YEAH. WELL YOU WOULD THINK, BUT SEE, YOU GOTTA HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PRACTICALITY OF IT. LIKE WHY WOULD I SEND OUT LIKE 10 MACHINES OUT TO A LOCATION WHERE THERE'S ONLY GONNA BE ABOUT, MAYBE ABOUT OUT OF THE 2,586 THAT'S A PORT ROYAL TOWN HALL, I MIGHT ANTICIPATE ONLY PROBABLY GETTING 300 VOTERS THAT MIGHT VOTE IN THIS ELECTION. 'CAUSE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS STATISTICALLY ARE THE LOWEST TURNOUTS IN ELECTION. THE ONLY TIME WE SEE A HIGHER NUMBER [01:05:01] IS DURING, WHEN IT, WHEN THEY'RE GROUPED TOGETHER IN A, UH, A GENERAL ELECTION WITH LIKE PRESIDENTIAL OR LIKE NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE GOVERNOR RACE. WHEN WE HAVE A GOVERNOR RACE THAT WE HAVE. I'M NOT, I'M SORRY, I'M NOT CLEAR WITH MY QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING, I'M ASSUMING THE SAME TURNOUT YES, SIR. ACROSS THE COUNTY FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL ELECTORS. YES, SIR. SO LET'S SAY IT'S 10%. YES, SIR. THAT WOULD BE GREAT TURNOUT. OKAY. SO IF WE HAVE 10% TURNOUT AT, UH, PORT ROYAL TOWN HALL MM-HMM . THAT'S ABOUT 260 VOTERS, RIGHT? CORRECT. SO WE HAVE TWO BBS FOR 260 VOTERS, BUT HE AGREED TO CHANGE IT TO THREE. OKAY. I'M JUST USING JUST AN EXAMPLE. NOT SPECIFIC. UM, BUT THEN IF WE LOOK AT ROBERT SMALL'S LEADERSHIP, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME CHANGES THERE. BUT BASED ON THESE NUMBERS, YES. WE HAD, UH, A THOUSAND REGISTERED VOTERS. SO 10% WILL BE A HUNDRED VOTERS WILL SHOW UP. AND THEY HAVE TWO EPB. SO THAT'S 500 VOTERS PER EPV? THAT'S CORRECT. SO ONE LOCATION HAS, UM, ONE EPB PER 130 VOTERS. MM-HMM . AND ANOTHER LOCATION HAS ONE EPB FOR 50 VOTERS. OKAY. SO, SO THE, THE RATIO IS DOUBLE AT ONE LOCATION AT ANOTHER. SO IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE DIFFERENCE TURN. THE OTHER THING IS ALSO BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF OUR LO OUR POLLING LOCATIONS ALSO SO FACTOR. THAT'S A GOOD REASON. THAT'S A GOOD REASON. SO LIKE AT PORT ROYAL TOWN HALL, IT IS A LITTLE CRAMP IN THERE DEPENDING ON IT. AND SO I WAS, UM, AND I WAS SHOCKED THAT WE EVEN HAD THREE EPV. I FORGOT THAT WE DID USE THREE. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY ACTUALLY USED ALL THREE OF THEM IN THE ELECTION, BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN I WENT INTO THAT LOCATION A LOT AND, UM, UM, MANY YEARS AGO, WE USED TO ALWAYS TRY TO SET IT, HELP THEM SET IT UP. AND IT IS A LITTLE CRAMPED IN THEIR HOLLOW WAY. THEY HAVE, LIKE, WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE ROOM AND THERE'S A LITTLE, ANOTHER CORNER ROOM IN THE BACK, AND THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE WHERE THE, UH, WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY, I GUESS THE, UM, THEY SIT UP THERE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE FRONT, LIKE THE MUNICIPAL, THE CITY MUNICIPAL, UM, LEADERS WILL SIT UP AT. SO WE ALWAYS TRY TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE IT MORE PRACTICAL, UH, IN THERE. AND OF COURSE WE LOOK AT ALSO THE SPACING OF OUR ELECTRONIC, I MEAN, NOT, NOT OUR ELECTRONIC POLE BOOKS, BUT OUR BALLOT MARKING DEVICES BECAUSE, UH, BY LAW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THREE FEET APART FROM EACH OTHER. AND, UM, DURING THE PANDEMIC WE WENT TO SIX FEET, BUT NOW WE CAN MOVE BACK TO THREE FEET. SO WE ALSO LOOK AT PRIVACY AND THEN ALSO SPACE, AND ALSO HOW CUSTOMERS, HOW TO FLOW. BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A, A BACK DOOR OR ANY SIDE ENTRANCE THEY CAN GO OUT OF. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN GO OUT THE BACK DOOR. SO THEY HAVE TO GO BACK OUT THE SAME WAY THEY CAME BACK INTO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND STUFF. THE OTHER VARIABLE TOO, YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF VOTERS COMING IN EVERY HOUR. IT'S, YEAH. SO IT'S, AND, AND THE OTHER VARIABLE TOO IS BASED ON YOUR BALLOT MARKET, YOU CAN'T JUST CON YOU CAN HAVE 3, 4, 5, 6 CPPS. YOU CAN'T KEEP CHECKING THEM IN BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY MACHINES AS IT IS. THAT'S TRUE. SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE THREE, LIKE FOR THAT ONE LOCATION, IF YOU HAVE THREE FOR PORT ROYAL, EACH OF THEM CHECKS IN TWO PEOPLE AND THEN THEY HAVE TO WAIT AND, UM MM-HMM . THAT'S THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER AS WELL. AND MR. MR. SWEENEY, THAT'S, THAT'S A, UM, NOT I FULLY UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S WHAT I TRY TO, UM, USUALLY AFTER THE ELECTIONS ALSO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR CLERKS AND, UH, USUALLY TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT IS THE BEST, UH, METHOD FOR THEM IN THEIR POLL LOCATIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T PHYSICALLY BE AT ALL 80, 84 LOCATIONS NOW. AND, UM, WHICH IS A DIFFICULT PROCESS TO BE AT THERE. AND SO I USUALLY TRY TO FIND, OKAY, WHAT IS THE BEST METHOD FOR THEM WHEN THEY HAD THAT ELECTION? I KNOW SOMETIMES THE CLERKS AND, AND EVEN POLL WORKERS, SO OUR POLL, UH, MANAGERS, ANYBODY TO SEE HOW THAT FLOW WAS, IF THEY CAN HANDLE, UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE SPACE. THERE'S, WE GOT SOME POLL LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S REALLY TIGHT IN THERE WITH, UH, EVEN WITH THE CURBSIDE CART GOING IN THERE. SO WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT AFTER EACH ELECTION WHAT IS, HOW MANY CAN YOU HANDLE AND WHAT'S THE, UH, IF YOU CAN HANDLE MORE EPO BOOKS, IF THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY IN THE BIG ELECTION, OUR, OUR 2024 ELECTION, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GET AS MANY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN OUT BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN BE ABLE TO PROCESS THE VOTERS, UM, IN A REASONABLE MANNER AND AT THE SAME TIME HAVE SPACE AND THE FLOW FOR THEIR, THEIR VOTERS TO COME IN AND OUT OF THE PLUS PLUS THE NUMBER OF, OF, UH, UM, THE NUMBER OF THINGS YOU'RE VOTING ON TOO. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT CORRECT? YEAH. JUNE IS GONNA BE GIANT. JUNE IS GONNA BE A, UM, PROBABLY MATCH UP THE SAME NUMBERS AGAIN IN 2024 BECAUSE OF THE, THE TYPE OF RACES THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN THIS. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, VOTE TO ACCEPT THESE EQUIPMENT ALLOCATIONS WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE. SO, UH, MS. DO, WHAT WAS THE AMENDMENT FOR ROBERT SMALLS? ROBERT SMALLS. I WAS THINKING FOR, UH, [01:10:01] BMDS DS OR BMDS. BMDS, YES. OKAY. AND, AND ONE CURBSIDE WERE, THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY LARGE OPEN SPACE IN THAT CAFE. IT CAN'T ACCOMMODATE IT IN A LIBRARY. WERE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES? I'M SORRY, MR. BACKER, DID YOU WANNA CHANGE ANY? UH, I THINK IT WAS, I HADN'T FINISHED YET. OH, I'M SORRY. AND IT WAS, UM, THREE E PBS AT PORT BOY. WE MAY NOT NEED THAT MANY, BUT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE SETUP AND I'M FAMILIAR AT THE HOURS THAT IT'S CONGESTED. SO BASED ON MY OBSERVATION, ILL GET YOU, I WOULD SAY LET'S HAVE THREE AVAILABLE. OKAY. YOU MAY NOT NEED THEM, BUT YES MA'AM. MR. BACKER, YOU HAD, UM, IT, IT WAS, UM, MAY RIVER BAPTIST CHURCH TO GO FROM TWO TO THREE. EPB. OKAY. YES, SIR. I GOT YOU. YES, SIR. I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THAT CHURCH YET TO SEE HOW IT IS. THE LAYOUT MUCH BETTER OVER THERE. UM, YEAH. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG OPEN SPACE. WE REALLY OPEN THE WORKERS. THEY'RE IN THE FELLOWSHIP HALL, RIGHT? YEAH, IT, IT'S A VERY OPEN SPACE. IT'S REALLY, REALLY GOOD. PHOENIX. OKAY. OH, YOU HAVE CHANGES? NO. OKAY. SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THESE EQUIPMENT ALLOCATIONS WITH THREE AMENDMENTS? THE FIRST ONE BEING, UH, THREE EP BS INSTEAD OF TWO AT PORT ROYAL TOWN HALL. THE SECOND CHANGE BEING FOUR BMDS INSTEAD OF THREE AT ROBERT SMALLS LEADERSHIP. AND THE THIRD CHANGE BEING, UH, THREE BBS AT MAY RIVER BAPTIST INSTEAD OF TWO. EILEEN MITCHELL. SOLE MOVE. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT SURE. SUPPLY BAGS, SINCE IT IS GONNA BE A LOW TURNOUT ELECTION, UM, WHICH MULTI PRECINCT LOCATIONS ARE GONNA GET MULTIPLE SUPPLY BACKS? ONLY MAYE RIVER HIGH, ONLY MAY. YEP. ALL THE OTHER ONES, IT'S JUST THE LEAD CLERKS. THE STANDALONE PRECINCTS OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE ONE. MAYE RIVER HIGH IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS MORE THAN ONE PRECINCT THAT WILL GET TWO SUPPLY BAGS GONNA GONNA GET TO AND THE CLERK, THE LEAD CLERKS AWARE AND, YEAH. MM-HMM . OKAY. WE'LL ALSO MAKE SURE, UM, POWER CORDS, EXTENSION CORDS, ADDITIONAL EXTENSION CORDS ARE THERE, UM, FOR THOSE LOCATIONS THAT MIGHT, THAT NEED IT? 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE OUTSIZING A LITTLE BIT, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL THAT. YES. SCOOT IN. CAN I MENTION THAT WE'RE ROBERT SMALLS NEEDS EXTENSION CORDS? YES, MA'AM. ALWAYS. YES MA'AM. IS SCHOOL IN ON THAT DAY? NO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE OUTTA SCHOOL. YEAH. GOT TWO BOYS IN SCHOOLS. THEY OUT. I KNOW. COUNTY. YEAH, THEY'RE OUTTA SCHOOL THAT DAY. THEY, THEY VOTED TO BE OFF ON NOVEMBER. UH, GENERAL ELECTIONS OR JUST EVEN IF IT'S THE MUNICIPAL ELECTION ON THAT, YOU KNOW, OFF YEAR. SO, JANE, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YOU GAVE ME THE UPDATED, UM, POLL WORK ASSIGNMENTS AND I DIDN'T LOOK THROUGH IT ALL YET. UM, BUT ON THE LEAD CLERK LIST THAT YOU GAVE ME THE OTHER DAY, DID THAT CHANGE ANY WITH THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT ATTEND? THE, THE ONLY ONE THAT I KNOW IS DIFFERENT IS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THE LIBRARY. IS THAT'S ME. IS IT THE LIBRARY? THAT'S ME. YEAH, THAT'S WAS, YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH. NO, FOR HIS. SORRY, I NEED TO LOOK FOR LEE CLERKS. THAT ONE. MM-HMM . UM, BLUFF IN 40 D. IT'S NOT BILL STALKER, IT IS DAVIS. YEAH. THANK, SORRY, I HAD TO LOOK AT IT. . YOU SHOULD HAVE, UM, MR. COOK, MR. MOORE. PETER MOORE. PETER MOORE. YEAH. OKAY. UH, LET'S MOVE ON. SO I, I'D LIKE TO ALSO APPROVE THE POLL WORKER. SO IF WHILE WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, IF YOU COULD PULL THAT TOGETHER, WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT AFTERWARDS. UM, NEXT IS EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER SOUTH CAROLINA CODE SECTION 34 70 A ONE TO ENGAGE IN DISCUSSIONS, INCIDENT TO EMPLOYMENT APPOINTMENT OR COMPENSATION OF A PERSON REGULATED BY PUBLIC BODY IN THIS CASE. DISCUSSION OF CANDIDATES FOR THE POSITION OF BOARD OF VOTER REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY DIRECTOR. UM, MAY HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. AMOUNT OF POLL WORKERS THAT WE, WE HAVE AT ANY GIVEN POLLING LOCATION. FIVE. FIVE IS THE MINIMUM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE, UH, POLLING LOCATIONS AND PRECINCTS FOR THIS ELECTION, DO YOU WANNA TAKE SOME TIME TO LOOK AT THIS OR ARE YOU COMFORTABLE TAKING A VOTE? I'M PERSONALLY COMFORTABLE TAKING A VOTE. ME TOO. YEAH, I, AND THAT MINE FINAL TIME. OKAY. GIVE BEVERLY A MOMENT. [01:15:26] OFTEN 1D THAT'S NOT MR. COOPER, THAT'S ANOTHER DONNA COOPER. TRINA. WE'LL WORK THIS SUMMER. YEAH. PROBABLY WANT ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON AT FORT ROYAL IF WE CAN GET ANOTHER PERSON. THERE WAS ANOTHER PERSON, SHE DIDN'T COME TO THE BRIEFING UPTOWN AT WHISTLE. YOU'RE THINKING OF MR. AMP. IF WE COULD JUST GET ONE OTHER PERSON. SEE THAT'S THE TOWN SEAT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOW UP THERE IN PORT ROYAL, IF I MAY MAKE THAT SUGGESTION. JEAN IS, UM, MR. STALKER'S STILL WORKING, HE'S JUST NOT THE CLERK. HE'S AT THAT LOCATION. HE'S JUST NOT THE CLERK. YEAH, HE SAID HE'S, HE SAID HE WOULD BE THE CLERK IF I COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY ELSE TO DO IT. AND SO I GOT SOMEBODY FROM AVERT THAT WANTED TO COME OVER AND DO IT FOR US. SO WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO TRAIN A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE. AND I'M ACTUALLY TRAINING THE NEW CLERK DURING THIS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IT SLOW AND LEARN THE ROPES. RIGHT, BECAUSE WE GONNA PROBABLY, WE GONNA NEED CLERKS IN, IN, IN IN JUNE AND TALKING TO JEAN. WE GONNA DO, I THINK WE GONNA DO A FEW HANDS-ON SPECIALIZED CLERK CLASSES. GREAT. JUST THAT ONE, ONE SUGGESTION THAT I WOULD, THAT WOULD BE FOR PORT ROYAL TOWN HALL. OKAY. SO, UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS LIST OF ASSIGNED POLL WORKERS WITH AN AMENDMENT TO UH, MAKE BEST EFFORTS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL POLL WORKER TO PORT ROYAL ONE OR PORT ROYAL TWO. SO MOVED. SECOND. A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, UH, ITEM NINE MATTERS ARISING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH A SEARCH COMMITTEE THAT WILL MEET AND DETERMINE A TIMELINE TO POST FOR DIRECTOR AND ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE POSTING AND THEN POST THE POSITION ACCORDINGLY? MOVED? SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY, CHAIRMAN, IS THAT REPLACING THE AD HOC DIRECTOR SEARCH COMMITTEE YOU ALREADY HAD? UH, IT WILL BE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU SIR. SO THE NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, FOR THE AD HOC SEARCH COMMITTEE WILL BE MR. BACKER, MS. MITCHELL, MR. SOWICKI AND MYSELF. CHAIR, I'LL BE THE CHAIR. OKAY, THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. UH, NEXT IS CLOSING COMMENTS. UM, UH, THE ONLY CLOSING COMMENT I HAVE IS, UH, TO THANK THE STAFF FOR WORKING HARD TO GET READY FOR THE NOVEMBER 4TH ELECTION. UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S A SMALL ELECTION, WE KNOW THAT, UH, THE ELECTION AS ALL OTHERS HAVE TO GO OUT, UH, GO ON WITHOUT A HITCH. SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THAT AND TO THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO WILL BE VERY BUSY ON ELECTION DAY AND ELECTION DAY EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN ANNOUNCEMENTS. SO MR. CHAIR, CAN I GO BACK TO, JUST WANNA GO BACK TO THE [01:20:01] BUDGET CALENDAR. I FORGOT TO BRING IT UP WHEN YOU WERE GOING OVER THE BUDGET CALENDAR. UM, YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT CIP LIST BY THE 27TH, WHICH ACTUALLY HAPPENS TO BE THANKSGIVING DAY, BUT, UM, , I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THEN WE COME UP WITH IT BEFORE THEN, THAT'S FINE. BUT, BUT I WAS THINKING ABOUT HAVING SOME TIME TO AT LEAST DISCUSS IT IN A FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING. UM, SO MAYBE SOMETIME YOU, YOU SELECT THE TIME. OKAY. I'LL DO WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU HAVE THE ELECTION BEHIND YOU AND THINGS SETTLE DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING THE NOVEMBER BOARD MEETING ON THE SIXTH, THAT'S NOT GONNA ALIGN WITH THE BOARD MEETING, BUT WE CAN MAYBE WORK SOMETHING. OKAY. I HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL CALL, ZOOM. WE CAN DO THAT TOO. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO ANNOUNCEMENTS. UH, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 6TH EVENT, FOLLOWING THE NOVEMBER 4TH ELECTION, UH, WE WILL HAVE THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CANVAS HEARING AND CERTIFICATION OF ELECTION THAT'S CONDUCTED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON MUNICIPAL ELECTION COMMISSION. IS THAT A THREE PERSON COMMISSION? THREE PERSON, YES, SIR. OKAY. AND, AND OUR ROLE IN THAT WILL BE JUST TO OBSERVE. OKAY. AND THEN AT, AT 10 30 WE'LL HAVE THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL CANVAS HEARING AND CERTIFICATION OF ELECTION. AND THAT WILL BE DONE BY US, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. THIS LOCATION, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. AND THEN AT 1130 WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING. RIGHT. OKAY. EXCUSE ME. ONE THING THAT I FORGOT TO LIST IN THEIR ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT WAS MENTIONED IS JUST THAT THE HAND COUNT AUDIT WILL BE ON THE FIFTH AT WINDOW. WHAT TIME? 10. 10 10. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLICLY NOTICED AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YES SIR. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? OH, THAT'LL BE HERE, BUT THAT'S IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN LIEN? SO MOVE SECOND . ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR WATCHING BEAUFORT COUNTY TV. I AM DENNIS ADAMS, AND THIS IS A BUFORT COUNTY MOMENT. CALL IT FROGMORE STEW LOW COUNTRY BOIL, BUFORT BOIL, WHATEVER YOU PLEASE. THIS ZESTY POT OF SHRIMP, SAUSAGE AND CORN ON THE COB MAY BE OUR BEST KNOWN SPECIALTY, BUT THE RECIPE IS LESS THAN A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. IN FACT, HISTORIAN GERHARD SPEER SAID THAT THE KIND OF LINKED SAUSAGE USED IN THE STEW CAME TO THIS AREA WITH IMMIGRANTS NO EARLIER THAN THE 1940S. BEFORE THAT TIME, ONLY PATTI STYLE SAUSAGE COULD BE BOUGHT. AND SPEER THINKS THAT THE RECIPE WAS THE ACCIDENTAL INVENTION OF SHRIMPERS THROWING EVERYTHING THEY HAD ON HAND TOGETHER. ALTHOUGH BOILED SHRIMP HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF SEA ISLAND DAILY LIFE, THE 1847 CHARLESTON COOKBOOK, THE CAROLINA HOUSEWIFE HAD NO RECIPES LIKE PRESENT DAY FROGMORE STEW, BUT FOR A BATCH OF WHAT HAS BECOME THE TASTE OF THE LOW COUNTRY BOILED CORN AND SAUSAGE IN WATER WELL SPICED WITH SEAFOOD SEASONING POWDER, ADDING RAW SHRIMP AT THE LAST MINUTE, DRAIN FAST, AND SERVE HOT. TRY IT TONIGHT. I'M DENNIS ADAMS, AND THIS HAS BEEN YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT. TO SEE MORE BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENTS GO TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARY HOMEPAGE AND CLICK ON THE LOCAL HISTORY TAB. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.