* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:02] COUNCIL, DECEMBER 8TH, 2025. PLEASE RISE FOR THE, UM, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY COUNCILMAN DAWSON, WHO WILL THEN DO THE INVOCATION TO ALLEGIANCE TO THE THIRD OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. REMAIN STANDING. PLEASE LET US PRAY. OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TO GIVE YOU THANKS. WE THANK YOUR GOD FOR BLESSING US TO SEE THIS DAY. WE KNOW THAT IT WASN'T PROMISED, BUT BECAUSE OF YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY, YOU ALLOWED US TO CONTINUE LIVING AMONGST THE LAND OF THE LIVING. AND WE THANK YOU. WE THANK YOUR GOD FOR THIS GREAT ASSEMBLY THAT IS GRA GATHERED HERE THIS AFTERNOON. WE ASK YOUR BLESSINGS UPON EACH AND EVERYONE THAT HAVE ASSEMBLED. WE KNOW, OH FATHER GOD, THAT YOU ARE THE GOD OF LOVE AND THE GOD OF PEACE. AND SO NOW, FATHER GOD, IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST, I PRAY FOR THE SALVATION OF THE LEADERS OF THIS GREAT NATION. I PRAY, OH, FATHER GOD, THAT YOU WILL SAY ABOUT DEMOCRACY. I PRAY, OH, FATHER GOD, THAT WHERE THERE'S HATE, YOU BRING LOVE. WHERE THERE'S CONTENTION AND CONFUSION, YOU BRING PEACE BECAUSE YOU ARE THE GOD OF LOVE AND THE GOD OF PEACE. NOW, AS THIS COUNCIL DELIBERATE THE ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE US, WE ASK YOUR GOD TO GUIDE US IN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND HELP US TO MAKE WISE AND PRUDENT DECISIONS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY. LET US BE MINDFUL AND REMEMBER THAT EVERY DECISION WE MAKE, HOW IT AFFECTS EVEN THE LEAST AMONGST US IN THIS COUNTY. IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN DAWSON. UM, MS. BROCK, THIS MEETING WAS ADVERTISED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT ON SOUTH. YES, MA'AM. IT WAS. OKAY, THANK [4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA] YOU. I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, OUR MOTION. OKAY. AND SECOND, I SECOND MADAM CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGN OF HANDS, APPROVE THE AGENDA. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. UM, WE HAVE [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] MINUTES FROM CAUCUS AND COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. A SECOND. BY COUNCILMAN WILSON. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGN OF HANDS. ALRIGHT. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. UH, WE [6. PROCLAMATION] HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS TONIGHT. UH, THE FIRST ONE I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO DR. CAROLINE FURMAN IS RECIPIENT OF THE 2025 WOMEN'S VETERAN TRAILS BLAZERS INITIATIVE AWARD. IF SHE COULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED A SPECIAL ROOM FOR ALL YOUR AWARDS. YEP. I LOVE BE VERY CHRISTMASY LOOKING. . THANK YOU. WHEREAS WOMEN'S VETERANS TRAILBLAZER INITIATIVE AWARD HONORS WOMEN VETERANS WHO EXEMPLIFY EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE, LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION TO UPLIFTING FELLOW VETERANS AND STRENGTHENING THEIR COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS DR. CAROLINE FURMAN HAS BEEN SELECTED AS A 2025 RECIPIENT OF THIS DISTINGUISHED AWARD AND RECOGNITION OF HER EXEMPLARY MILITARY SERVICE, HER PROFESSIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS, AND HER CONTINUED ADVOCACY ON THE BEHALF OF VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. WHEREAS DR. FURMAN HAS DEMONSTRATED UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO EMPOWERING WOMEN VETERANS, ADVANCING ACCESS TO SERVICES, AND FOSTERING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ENSURE EVERY VETERAN IS SUPPORTED, RESPECTED, AND VALUED. AND WHEREAS THROUGH HER LEADERSHIP, COMPASSION, AND TIRELESS SERVICE, DR. FURMAN HAS MADE A LASTING IMPACT ON BOTH THE VETERAN COMMUNITY AND THE BROADER PUBLIC, INSPIRING OTHERS TO SERVE, LEAD, AND CREATE MEANINGFUL CHANGE. AND WHEREAS HER ACCOMPLISHMENTS EMBODY THE HIGHEST IDEALS OF SERVICE AND REFLECT GREAT CREDIT UPON HERSELF, THE VETERAN COMMUNITY, AND ALL WHO DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO THE BETTERMENT OF OTHERS. NOW THEREFORE, IT BE RESOLVED THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR DR. CAROLYN FURMAN FOR HER EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTIONS AND CONGRATULATES HER ON BEING A 2025 WOMEN TRAILBLAZERS INITIATIVE AWARD, WHICH IS A NATIONAL AWARD. YES, MA'AM. , CONGRATULATIONS, [00:05:10] MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DISTINCTION. UM, I WAS DEEPLY HONORED TO BE RECOGNIZED BY VETERANS ADMINISTRATION, BUT HONESTLY, I'M MORE HONORED AND TOUCHED TO BE, UM, RECOGNIZED BY YOU ALL BECAUSE ALONG, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT I SERVE ALONGSIDE EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY, BUT THE STRONG LEADERSHIP, UM, HERE ON COUNTY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION, UM, I JUST COULDN'T BE MORE HONORED. BUT I WOULD BE RE REMISS IF I DID NOT RECOGNIZE MY STAFF. 'CAUSE WITHOUT THEM, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE. THEY'RE IN THE TRENCHES EVERY DAY AND IT'S TRULY AN HONOR TO SERVE OUR VETERANS HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK I CAN SAY THIS CAROLINE'S ONE TOUGH MARINE . I HOPE SHE DOESN'T MIND ME SAYING THAT. , UM, EVEN IN RETIREMENT, UH, NEXT IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF PICKNEY ISLAND NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE. AND COUNCILMAN YORK CLOVER IS GONNA DO THAT. IS SOMEONE HERE TO RECEIVE IT? UM, YES. OH, OKAY. GONNA FACE COUNCIL AND THEN YOU CAN FACE THE YEAH. UM, BOUNCE ME OFF HERE. SURE. OKAY. YOU THANK YOU. UH, THIS PROCLAMATION, UM, WHEREAS ON DECEMBER THE FOURTH, 1975, PINKNEY ISLAND NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE WAS ESTABLISHED AS IN NATURE AND FOREST PRESERVE FOR AESTHETIC AND CONSERVATION PURPOSES. AND TO FULFILL THE MISSION OF THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE SYSTEM TO CONSERVE, MANAGE, AND WHERE APPROPRIATE RESTORE FISH, WILDLIFE PLANTS, AND THEIR HABITATS FOR THE BENEFIT OF PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS OF AMERICANS. AND WHEREAS THE 50TH YEAR SAVANNAH COASTAL REFERENCES REFUGE, UH, COMPLEX AND PINCKNEY ISLAND NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE HAVE BEEN A CORNERSTONE OF BEAUFORT COUNTY TIMELESS SERVING ITS RESIDENTS BY PROVIDING WILDLIFE DEPENDENT RECREATIONS, SUCH AS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING, RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, AND UNPARALLELED ACCESS TO WILDLIFE VIEWING. AND WHEREAS THIS ANNIVERSARY IS A TESTAMENT TO THE VISION AND DEDICATION OF THE PROPERTY DONORS, AGENCY STAFF, AND VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE REFUGE SUCCESS OVER THE DECADES. AND WHEREAS SAVANNAH COASTAL REFUGE COMPLEX CONTINUES TO UPHOLD ITS VALUE OF INTEGRITY, SERVICE CONSERVATION, AND HAS HAD A LASTING AND POSITIVE IMPACT ON NATURAL PRESERVATION EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY WELLBEING. AND WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER THAT BEFORD COUNTY OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED THIS OBS, UH, AUSPICIOUS, UH, OCCASION AND CELEBRATES, UH, THE ENDURING CONSERVATION LEGACY OF PINCKNEY ISLAND NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE AND THE SAVANNAH COASTAL REFUGE COMPLEX. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE FOURTH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2025 AS THE PINCKNEY ISLAND NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE 50TH ANNIVERSARY IN BEFORD COUNTY, AND CALLED UPON THE CITIZENS TO JOIN IN CELEBRATING THIS SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE IN HONORING THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE OF PINCKNEY ISLAND NATIONAL WILDLIFE PRESENT OF REFUGE, DATED THIS EIGHTH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2025 AND SIGNED BY OUR CHAIRMAN ALICE HOWARD. SO, WHO I GIVE THIS TO. OKAY. THIS MAN RIGHT HERE. SPEAK TO EITHER OR HARRIS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COUNSEL. UH, GOOD EVENING. I'M ACTUALLY JOINED HERE WITH, UH, TWO MEMBERS OF THE, UH, US FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE, MR. NATHAN HUCK, WHICH IS THE PROJECT LEADER, AND MS. MONICA HARRIS, WHICH IS THE VISITOR SERVICES MANAGER. UH, MY NAME'S MATTHEW IMMER AND I'M, I'M PRESIDENT OF FRIENDS OF THE SAVANNAH COASTAL WILDLIFE REFUGES. WE'RE THE NONPROFIT PARTNER OF THIS, UH, COASTAL REFUGES COMPLEX OF WHICH, UH, PINKNEY ISLAND IS, UM, [00:10:01] ONE OF THOSE REFUGES. SO 50 YEARS AGO, A GIFT WAS MADE AND WITH THAT GIFT CAME A PROMISE. A PROMISE OF OPEN SPACES, OF CLEAN AIR, OF ABUNDANT WILDLIFE IN NATURE. AND FOR 50 YEARS, WE HAVE ALL SHARED IN THAT GIFT. TODAY, WE CELEBRATE NOT ONLY AN ANNIVERSARY, BUT ALSO A DEDICATED GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHOSE MISSION IT IS TO PROTECT THAT GIFT. THE US FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE STAFF THAT SERVE PINKNEY ISLAND HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY BEHIND THE SCENES, ENSURING THAT GUESTS AND WILDLIFE HAVE ACCESS AND PROTECTION TO THIS LAND. IT CAN BE A THANKLESS JOB WITH EARLY MORNINGS AND LATE NIGHTS THROUGH GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWNS, CHANGING ADMINISTRATIONS, AND EVOLVING BUDGET PRIORITIES. BUT EVER THEY, EVERY DAY THEY COME TO WORK FOR US AND FOR 50 YEARS THEY'VE COME TO WORK FOR PINKNEY ISLAND. 50 YEARS IS AN IMPORTANT MILESTONE IN CONSERVATION, BUT WE ALSO WISH TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT 50 YEARS. A BUILDING TRUST IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY, A PROTECTING VALUABLE HABITAT AND OF SERVICE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SO TO MARK THE OCCASION, WE ARE ACTUALLY HOSTING A ONE DAY EVENT ON THE ISLAND NEXT SPRING, APRIL 11TH, 2026. FROM 10:00 AM TO 4:00 PM WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL SCHEDULE OF FAMILY FRIENDLY ACTIVITIES FROM NATURE WALKS TO BIRDING TOURS, FOOD TRUCKS, AND ALSO A BIRD CALL CONTEST. IT IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND IT SHOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO GET OUT OUTDOORS AND ENJOY THIS WONDERFUL GIFT GIVEN TO US ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE EVENT, YOU CAN VISIT THE SERVICES WEBSITE, FWS.GOV/REFUGE/PINKNEY-ISLAND. AND WE DO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YOU'LL BE REMISS. I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I WENT TO THE REFUGE ON PINKNEY ISLAND ONCE AND, UM, AT THE PARK AND REALIZE THAT I HAD TO WALK SO FAR. . I NEED A BICYCLE. AND NEVER BEEN BACK 'CAUSE I DIDN'T BRING A BICYCLE. . OKAY, . ALRIGHT. [7. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT] AT THIS TIME WE WILL BRING OUR ADMINISTRATOR FORWARD, MICHAEL MOORE, FOR HIS REPORT. UH, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, COUNTY COUNSEL. FIRST TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, NICOLE WOOD, WHO, UH, STARTED ON EFFECTIVE, UH, DECEMBER 1ST. SO, NICOLE'S HERE. UM, A FEW WORDS ABOUT NICOLE. UM, PRIOR TO COMING TO BEAUFORT COUNTY, SHE SERVED AS AN ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHERE SHE MANAGED A DIVERSE PORTFOLIO OF DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING HUMAN RESOURCES, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, AND MORE. AND A ROLE WITH, UH, GREENVILLE COUNTY. SHE ASSISTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND PRESENTATION OF THE $950 MILLION, UH, BIENNIUM BUDGET OVERSAW THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSITY RIDGE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND CRAFTED STRATEGIC COUNTY COUNCIL INITIATIVES, INCLUDING GREENVILLE COUNTY'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING POLICY, AND HISTORIC AND NATURAL RESOURCES TRUST. IN ADDITION TO THE CITIZENS ACADEMY FOR RESIDENTS AND AN INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THAT PARTNERS WITH THE LOCAL, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SHE HAS A MASTER OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION DEGREE FROM CLEMSON UNIVERSITY, AND, UH, ALSO A DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA. IN ADDITION TO HER PROFESSIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS, NICOLE ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH HER FAMILY, WHICH INCLUDES HER HUSBAND, MARK TRIPLET DAUGHTERS WHO JUST GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE, TWO AND ONE FROM UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY, AS WELL AS HER THREE DOGS. UH, BESIDES HER FAMILY, SHE ENJOYS, UH, TRAVELING, RUNNING, SPENDING TIME WITH HER FRIENDS AND BEING AT THE BEACH OR ON THE WATER. SHE'S ORIGINALLY FROM AKRON, OHIO, BUT SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA WHEN SHE ATTENDED FURMAN UNIVERSITY AND SAW THE BEAUTY OF BOTH THE UPSTATE AND LOW COUNTRY. UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS BEEN A VACATION SPOT FOR, FOR DECADES, AND NOW SHE'S EXCITED TO CALL IT HOME. WE KNOW SHE'LL BE A GREAT ASSET HERE, UH, TO BEAUFORT COUNTY AND TO OUR TEAM. SO WE WANNA WELCOME HER HERE. GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT LONG INTRODUCTION, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE. I'M EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU, MIKE, AND THE STAFF AND, AND ALL OF YOU AND THE CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORM. WELCOME DAY SIX. I'M EXCITED. . DAY SIX. COMING BACK. IT'S JUST DAY SIX. GET A PICTURE. STEP UP ME GUYS. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE SOME, UH, SERVICE AWARDS FOR SOME, UH, COUNTY EMPLOYEES. UM, SO FIRST OFF, WE HAVE THE LIST HERE FROM CATHERINE. SO, UH, WE HAVE MELISSA BEER FROM, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES. SHE'S AN ASSISTANT THERE AND [00:15:01] SHE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR 15 YEARS. THERE SHE IS. COME ON UP. HOW YOU DOING? I'M GOOD, THANKS. GOOD, GOOD. SO FOR 15 YEARS, UH, MELISSA'S CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE SUCCESS OF THE HR DEPARTMENT. THROUGH HER EXPERTISE, THOUGHTFUL GUIDANCE, AND UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF OUR WORKFORCE. HER LONGSTANDING SERVICE REFLECTS HER DEDICATION TO FOSTERING A POSITIVE AND EFFECTIVE WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT. SO WE WANNA SAY THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS AND WE'LL GET A PICTURE OF ANNA MORE IN ME. . OH, YOU BETTER MELISSA. THANKS. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, ANDREW, UH, CALOR. I SAID THAT CORRECTLY. SERGEANT, HE'S WITH THE BUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HE'S HERE. OKAY. HOW YOU DOING? YES, SIR. GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, THANK YOU. RIGHT THERE. HE'S RIGHT HERE. SHE'S LOOKING FOR YOU. . SO, UM, UH, CALOR, RIGHT? CALOR. CALOR. THANK YOU. UM, HE'S BEEN A VALUED MEMBER OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR 15 YEARS. IN THAT TIME, UH, HE WORKED IN NEARLY EVERY FACET OF ENFORCEMENT, HAS BEEN NAMED OFFICER OF THE YEAR AND CURRENTLY SERVES COLLATERAL DUTIES AS A SWAT TEAM MEMBER AND DRONE PILOT, ALL THE WHILE MAINTAINING A FUEL FULL INVESTIGATIVE CASE LOAD. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. THANKS SIR. YEAH. ANY COMMENTS? UH, NO, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION. SURE. WE'LL GET A PICTURE WITH, UH, MS. HANNAH. OKAY. NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, JEREMY DICKMAN, HIS SERGEANT WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND HE'S ALSO 15 YEARS OF SERVICE. HOW YOU DOING? SO, UH, SERGEANT DICKMAN'S BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL MEMBER OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR 15 YEARS. IN THAT TIME, HE SERVED ON SEVERAL SPECIAL TEAMS AND CURRENTLY IS A MEMBER OF THE DRONE TEAM AS WELL AS A PILOT FOR THE AVIATION UNIT. CURRENTLY, SERGEANT DICKMAN IS A PATROL SHIFT SUPERVISOR RESPONSIBLE FOR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? IT'S A PLEASURE WORKING FOR REVIEW. AWESOME. THANK YOU. WE'LL GET A PICTURE. MR. MOORE, IS HE A HELICOPTER PILOT FOR US? , IF HE'S FINE WITH THE SHERIFF, HE HAS TO BE HELICOPTERS, RIGHT? JUST CHECKING. YEAH. AIRPLANES. I CAN DO BOTH. HE CAN DO BOTH. OH, REALLY? WAIT, WE DON'T HAVE SHERIFF AIRPLANES, DO WE? NOT YET. NOT YET. NOT YET. . WELL SAID. WELL SAID. YOU'RE FREAKING ME OUT. . OKAY, NEXT UP FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WE HAVE, UM, ERIC HARDY, HIS SERGEANT, UM, AND HE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR 20 YEARS. YAY. ALRIGHT, SURE. UM, SERGEANT HARDY BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE BUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN SEPTEMBER, 1995. UH, HE SERVED UNTIL OCTOBER, 1998 AND THEN RETURNED TO THE AGENCY IN OCTOBER, UH, 2005. BRING HIS COMBINED SERVICE WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY TO 23 YEARS. THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, HE IS WORKED IN, UH, PATROL HELD COLLATERAL DUTIES WITH THE CRISIS NEGOTIATION TEAM, ASSISTED THE TRAINING SECTION AND SPENT A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF HIS SERVICE WITHIN THE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION. HE'S CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISION WITHIN THE COURTHOUSE SECURITY SECTION WHERE HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING COURTHOUSE SECURITY AND ORDER SCREENING AND MONITORING INDIVIDUALS ENTERING THE FACILITY AND ENSURING THE SAFE MOVEMENT OF INMATES. HE ALSO PROVIDES SECURITY FOR JUDGES AND COURT STAFF, AND RESPONSE TO INCIDENTS ARE EMERGENCIES AND THE COURTHOUSE COMPLEX. ALL VERY IMPORTANT DUTIES AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT. SO THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? I JUST APPRECIATE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE COMP FOR THE CITIZEN. SO WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE FOR OKAY. NEXT UP WE HAVE, UM, JAMES PERZANOWSKI. HOPEFULLY I GOT THAT RIGHT. SERGEANT WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR 20 YEARS. [00:20:04] UM, SERGEANT PERZANOWSKI HAS SERVED WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE SINCE 2005, WORKING AS A ROAD PATROL OFFICER IN BOTH THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN DIVISIONS AS A FIELD TRAINING OFFICER AND IS THE SHIFT SUPERVISOR. HE CURRENTLY SERVES AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AT BEAUFORT, JASPER, A CE, WHERE HE HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF WATCHING TEENAGERS LEARN, GROW, AND BEGIN THEIR PATH INTO ADULTHOOD. HE'S ALSO SERVED ON SEVERAL SPECIALIZED UNITS, INCLUDING THE DIVE TEAM AND THE DRONE TEAM, AND HE ASSISTS WITH THE MARINE PATROL, UH, SUPPORTING SEARCH RECOVERY AND CRITICAL INCIDENT OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER. HE IS, UH, REMAINED COMMITTED TO PROFESSIONALISM, TEAMWORK, AND THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO GOOD TO GO. OKAY. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE, UH, JANICE BEACH, ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER FOR DISABILITY AND SPECIAL NEEDS 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. HEY, JANICE? MM-HMM . SO, UH, JANICE IS A VALUABLE ASSET TO, UH, THE DS SN AS RESPECTED BY THE ENTIRE STAFF. HER HONESTY AND SUPPORT RECOGNIZED AND APPRECIATED. WHILE I UNDERSTAND SHE HAS A QUIET DEMEANOR THAT DOES NOT, UH, UNDERSTATE THE, UH, OR HER DEMONSTRATION OF EFFECTIVENESS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF HER, UH, INFLUENCE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. UH, SHE STARTED AT DSN AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE TECHNICIAN IN 2005, WAS PROMOTED TO FISCAL TECHNICIAN IN 2008, AND THEN TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER POSITION IN 2014. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY. ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? NO. YOU GOOD? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, MARK GILES SENIOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, WITH BILLING SERVICES. UH, HE'S BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR 20 YEARS. IT WAS KINDA HARD. SO HIS NOTABLE CONTRIBUTIONS, UM, HE WAS HEAD OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, CAREER BEFORE AND FOLLOWING HIS 13 YEARS. HE, UH, JOINED THE BEFORD COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT IN OCTOBER, 2005 AS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN JULY, 2021. HE ASSUMED THE DUTIES AS SENIOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND MANAGES THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE ADAM CHAO, EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIAN ADVANCED WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY EMS, 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. SO WE'RE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE, UM, ADAM FOR 20 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE. UH, HIS EMERGENCY SERVICES BEGAN IN HIGH SCHOOL WITH THE SHELDON FIRE DEPARTMENT. UH, AFTER JOINING BEAUFORT COUNTY EMS, HE ADVANCED HIS TRAINING, EARNED HIS INTERMEDIATE, UH, EMT CERTIFICATION IN 2006, AND BECAME AN ADVANCED EMT IN 2012 AND CONTINUES TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL COMPASSIONATE CARE. SO WE'VE GOT A TEAM OF FOLKS HERE. WHO, WHO ALL DO WE HAVE? SHANNON? HEY SHANNON. GREAT. APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE. THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT NOPE. THE SUPPORT OF THESE FOLKS. SO YOU WANNA COME AROUND, IT'S JUST EASIER TO DO. GET THIS MAYBE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT . THAT'S MORE COUNTY COUNSEL. UM, YOU GUYS RECENTLY APPROVED OUR 24 72 SHIFTS. ALL LOOKING FORWARD TO IT AND I KNOW IT'LL MAKE MY REMAINING TIME , SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. NEXT UP FOR COUNSEL. I KNOW YOU ALL WILL APPRECIATE THIS ONE. OCTAVIA EVANS SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST CLERK TO COUNSEL. 20 YEARS OF SERVICE. [00:25:01] ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO OCTAVIA IS A HIGHLY ACCOMPLISHED SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST IN THE CLERK TO COUNCIL'S OFFICE, WHERE SHE EXPERTLY MANAGES ALL BEAUFORT COUNTY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WITH PRECISION AND PROFESSIONALISM. PRIOR TO THIS ROLE, SHE BUILT A STRONG FOUNDATION DURING HER YEARS IN THE REGISTER OF DEEDS OFFICE, DEVELOPING A DEEP KNOWLEDGE OF COUNTY OPERATIONS AND PUBLIC SERVICE. SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE. ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? UM, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. WHEN I FIRST, I STARTED IN 2005, I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, BUT WHEN PARKS AND REC REGISTER, DS AND COUNTY COUNCIL WHEN I FIRST CAME DOWN HERE, Y'ALL KIND OF TERRIFIED ME, BUT Y'ALL ARE SO GREAT. I LOVE Y'ALL . SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. AND I HOPE I CAN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH Y'ALL. THANK YOU. OH, YOU ARE. AND I LOVE YOU SARAH AND ASHLEY . YES. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, JEROME SPENCER, WHO'S A MAJOR WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HIS EARS OF SERVICE, 40 YEARS. WOW. THANK YOU. SO MAJOR SPENCER'S A BEAUFORT NATIVE GRADUATE OF BATTERY CREEK HIGH SCHOOL, AND AN EIGHT YEAR UNITED STATES NAVY VETERAN. APPRECIATE THAT. BEGAN HIS SERVICE WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN 1985, HAVING RISEN TO HIS CURRENT RANK OF MAJOR, OF THE NORTHERN ENFORCEMENT BRANCH DURING HIS 40 YEARS. HE'S ALSO SERVED AS SWAT COMMANDER, DIVE TEAM COMMANDER ARMOR FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TRAFFIC MANAGER. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOU LIKE TO MAKE THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION. IT WENT BY TOO FAST. . I HEAR THAT. THANK YOU, MR. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES OUR SERVICE AWARDS. FINALLY, HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK STAFF OF WHICH WE HAVE MANY FOLKS HERE FROM CIP TO CLERK, TO BROADCASTING TO IT AND TOO MANY OTHERS TO MENTION, BUT FOR ALL THEIR EFFORTS, ENSURING THAT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THE ADMIN BUILDING WAS COMPLETE AND READY TO GO FOR TONIGHT, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE. A LOT OF COORDINATION. SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I HOPE YOU ALL ENJOY THE MEETING TONIGHT AND THE NEW WE DO NEW CHAMBERS. THANK YOU. AND THANK ALL OF THEM FOR MAKING IT HAPPEN. ABSOLUTELY. SO, PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT CONCLUDES MY RECORD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR ADMINISTRATOR? YES, SIR. CAN I JUST THROW, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T HELP BUT THINK OF ALL THE SERVICE THAT'S GOING ON AND IT REMINDS ME OF THE LAST 16 MONTHS THAT I'VE MONOPOLIZED YOUR TIME AND, UM, OUR ENGINEERS ON STORM WATER, AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN BAY PINES, BRADLEY CIRCLE, OLD WOODLANDS, AND I, I KNOW OTHER PLACES AS WELL. COUNCIL COLLEAGUES ARE DOING MY HAT'S OFF TO YOU, MR. MOORE, WITH REGARD TO GETTING THE PEOPLE OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES AND REALLY DOING THINGS. AFTER MANY YEARS OF NOT DOING ANYTHING, RETROFITTING OUR STORMWATER. UM, AND THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING GOING INTO CHRISTMAS IN A NEW YEAR. AND I, I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH THAT IT, IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON THE PEOPLE AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THOSE PLACES. I'VE IDENTIFIED MANY OTHERS. UM, WE HAVE MUCH MORE TO GO. SO AGAIN, UH, I I ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP THE FOCUS, UM, THE ATTENTION WITH OUR PEOPLE. AND I ALSO WANNA SAY, DO WE HAVE THE, THE CIP AND THE IT PEOPLE IN OUR ROOM RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, JUST TO MR. MOORE, C P'S IN THE BACK. LISTEN, THESE PEOPLE HERE, HOW LONG WERE WE OUT OF THIS CHAMBER? HOW MANY MONTHS? SINCE APRIL. SINCE SINCE APRIL, RIGHT. LISTEN, I GOTTA, I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD GIVE THEM A VERY LOUD ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR GETTING US BACK IN HERE AND I'LL, I'LL JUST, I'LL END IT ON THIS. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THIS SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE I THINK IS PRIORITY AND WE SURE HAVE A LOT MORE TO DO WITH STORM WATER, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND ALL THE EFFORTS OF EVERYBODY HERE. THANK YOU. IT TAKES A TEAM EFFORT. I APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. MOORE. WE APPRECIATE IT. [8. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD] UM, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE 30 MINUTES, WHICH MEANS THREE MINUTES EACH. UH, WE HAVE MORE THAN THE 10, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO IN ORDER AS THEY SIGNED UP. AND WE WILL ONLY, UM, DO THE, THE 10 THAT WE HAVE. I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO IS RECOGNIZED SHALL LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AND OBSERVE THE FOLLOWING, [00:30:01] AVOID DISRESPECT TO COUNSEL AND ANY PERSONALITIES ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN IN SPEAKING CONFINE THEMSELVES TO JUST WHAT IS UNDER JURISDICTION OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL. UM, COUNSEL WILL NOT REPLY TO ANY COMMENTS AND BE RESPECTFUL, UH, OF ALL AND MINDFUL OF ALL WHO ARE PRESENT AND OTHERS WHO MAY BE WATCHING ON TELEVISION. SO, UM, WE WILL START WITH THE FIRST NAME ON THE LIST IS ROBERT. NEW AND I, THERE IS A TIMER AND I WILL, UH, CUT YOU OFF AFTER THREE MINUTES. DON'T DO THAT. OKAY. I THINK YOU KNOW THE RULES. , MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. 10 WEEKS AGO, THIS COUNCIL IN AN HISTORIC DECISION VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO REJECT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THE LARGEST CROWD IN RECENT MEMORY TURNED OUT TO EXPRESS THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE AGREEMENT AND THE ZONING AMENDMENT. IT WAS A LEGACY VOTE THAT DEMONSTRATED TO A COMMUNITY WHO OFTEN FEEL POWERLESS THAT YOU CARED. YOU LISTENED. THANK YOU. THE EFFORT TONIGHT TO RESCIND THAT DECISION IS BEYOND BEWILDERING. IT IS AN OPEN SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE LONG ESTABLISHED PROCESS OF REVIEWING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. THIS WHAT CAUSE CHAOS FOR THIS COUNCIL AND FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND YES, IT TURNS ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER ON ITS HEAD, BUT MORE IMPORTANT, IT RISKS THE ORDERLY AND SANE LEGISLATIVE PROCESSES OF THIS BODY. DEVELOPERS HAVE SPENT CRAZY MONEY, MILLIONS ON LAWYERS WITH THE BELIEF THAT LAW FAIR WILL WEAR THIS COUNCIL DOWN. WHAT THEY CAN'T GRASP IS THAT ANY POSITIVE RESULT FOR THEM WILL PROVOKE A SUBSTANTIAL LEGAL RESPONSE FROM THE OTHER SIDE. BUT NOW IT WOULD BE THE COUNTY REQUIRED TO FIGHT YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN COURT AND DEFENDANT DEVELOPER TO TOTAL CHAOS. FINALLY, THEY ARGUE IF YOU JUST CAVE, THEY WILL DROP THE LAWSUITS. THEY KNOW. AND WE KNOW THE LAWSUITS ARE WEAK, REALLY WEAK. MORE IMPORTANT, EVERY DEVELOPER WOULD USE THE EXACT SAME TACTIC TO GET HIS WAY. YOU WOULD BE FLOODED WITH LAWSUITS FROM DEVELOPERS WHO WILL NOW HAVE DISCOVERED THE MAGIC PILL TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. THIS IS INSANITY. DON'T GET HOODWINKED IN THIS PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO MIRE THIS COUNCIL IN QUICKSAND TONIGHT. SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO THIS DEVELOPER. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THANK YOU. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT ON OUR LIST IS QUEEN, QUICK, HAPPY HOLY DAYS. GOOD EVENING COUNTY COUNCIL AND ALL US HERE. GLAD FOR DAY ONE MORE. AGAIN, I PRAY THAT YOU ALL HAVE FINALLY GOTTEN REST FROM THE MARATHON MEETING WHERE I LAST SAW Y'ALL. 'CAUSE I KNOW IT TOOK SOME TIME TO GET SOME REST. BUT I WANT TO SAY TONIGHT THAT I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INVESTMENTS YOU HAVE DONE IN ST. HELENA ISLAND. ONE BY SITTING HERE FOR JUST ABOUT THREE YEARS, HEARING ALL OF OUR COMMENTS TIME AND TIME AGAIN FOR HOURS AD NAUSEUM AND READING ALL THE DOCUMENTS. SO I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE SERIOUSLY AND HEARING SERIOUSLY HOW MUCH WE WANT THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT OF ST. HELENA ISLAND TO REMAIN INTACT. AND SO YOU ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER RECENTLY ON BEHALF OF SOME OF THE ATTORNEYS, AND ONE OF WHICH REPRESENTS THE GULLAH GEECHEE SEA ISLAND COALITION. AND I'LL JUST READ THE OPENING PARAGRAPH THAT THIS LETTER OBJECTS TO. COUNCIL MEMBER LOGAN CUNNINGHAM'S PROPOSED MOTION TO RESCIND THE COUNTY COUNCIL'S PRIOR DECISION ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025, DENYING THE PROPOSED PINE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR A GATED GOLF RESORT DEVELOPMENT. SUCH A MOTION VIOLATES THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IS PROCEDURALLY IMPROPER UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. MOREOVER, IT UNDERMINES THE INTEGRITY, STABILITY, AND RELIABILITY OF COUNTY COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN THAT PROCESS. AND WE APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO BE CONFIDENT THAT YOU HAVE THE WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT PEOPLE TOOK THE TIME FOR HOURS TO PRESENT TO YOU BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AND THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO UPHOLD WHAT YOU VOTED ON AT THAT TIME. BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HEARING THE YEARS OF PEOPLE SAYING ON ST. HELENA WE WANTED MORE IMPROVEMENTS AND MORE INVESTMENTS IN THE ISLAND. AND SO [00:35:01] WE THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT'S GONNA GO ON IN THE WESLEY E FELIX, THAT WHAT WE CALL THE PARK, THE WESTLEY FELIX PARK, WHICH IS IN SAXON ON THE ISLAND. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK GETTING READY TO BE DONE. WE THANK YOU FOR VOTING IN WAYS THAT ALLOWED FOR US TO GET OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS UPGRADED OVER THE SUMMER AND THE VARIOUS OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE COME BEFORE THIS BODY OVER THE YEARS TO SAY WE WANT INVESTMENTS IN ST. HELENA. SO THIS WORK TO GO FORWARD ABOUT ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT FOR ST. HELENA, MORE SO THAN THE WORD DEVELOPMENT, IS WHAT I'D APPRECIATE YOU ALL CONTINUING TO WORK TOWARD AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE THE DIFFERENCE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO HOLD ONTO OUR LAND AND FOR OUR CULTURE TO CONTINUE TO THRIVE. SO WE THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF ST. HELENA ISLAND, AND ONCE AGAIN, I SAY TO YOU, HAPPY HOLY DAYS AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HONEY WORK THAT I KNOW MANY TIMES YOU DON'T GET. THANKS FOR CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. NEXT IS PARKER MOORE. MY NAME IS PARKER MOORE. I LIVE AT THREE 10 NEW STREET IN BEAUFORT, AND I OWN SE 70 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY ON ST. HELENA ISLAND. MY LAND ON ST. HELENA IS PROTECTED BY A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. AND YET EVERY SINGLE WEEK I RECEIVE A AT LEAST ONE CALL FROM A DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO BUY IT. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME. THEY'RE WATCHING, THEY'RE WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. LET'S BE CLEAR. THE PINE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT ISN'T JUST ANOTHER PROJECT. IT'S A PRIVATE GATED GOLF RESORT AND LUXURY RESIDENTIAL ENCLAVE DESIGNED FOR THE FEW AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MANY. IT WREAKS A, IT WREAKS A PRI PRIVILEGE AND EXCLUSIVITY. IT WOULD TEAR THE VERY FABRIC OF WHAT ST. HELEN ISLAND IS AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR. WORSE YET, IT'S A BLATANT VIOLATION OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND THE CPOA TOOL CREATED PRECISELY TO SAFEGUARD THE GAG GEECHY PEOPLE, THEIR CULTURE AND THEIR ANCESTRAL LANDS FROM EXACTLY THIS KIND OF EXPLOITATION. AND HERE'S THE TRUTH, THE DEVELOPER KNEW THIS PROJECT WAS ILLEGAL. WHEN HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, HE WAS NOT CONFUSED. HE WAS WAS NOT MISLED. HE CAME TO ARMED WITH A PLAN TO CHALLENGE THE LAW TO TWIST ARMS, FILE LAWSUITS, AND FORCE THE COUNTY TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PRINCIPAL AND PRESSURE. THIS ISN'T PLANNING, IT'S A POWER PLAY. AND NOW UNBELIEVABLY, WE HAVE TO WATCH. AS ONE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER ATTEMPTS TO SINGLE HANDEDLY DRAG THIS COUNTY BACKWARD BY TRYING TO OVERTURN, ATTEND TO ONE VOTE, A VOTE THAT HE LOST BADLY. HE WANTS A DO OVER. LET'S CALL THIS WHAT IT IS, AN END RUN AROUND THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. IT'S AN EFFORT TO OVERRIDE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND THE WILL OF THIS COUNCIL. WHEN A SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN ERASE A LANDSLIDE VOTE WITH A PROCEDURAL STUNT BECAUSE A DEVELOPER DOESN'T LIKE THE OUTCOME, THEN THIS CHAMBER NO LONGER IS A PLACE OF PUBLIC SERVICE, IS A PLACE WHERE POWER IS BOUGHT AND TRADED, NOT EARNED. A PLACE WHERE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GR GREASE THE POLITICAL GEARS UNTIL ANYONE, UNTIL SOMEONE CRACKS. IT'S TELLS EVERY DEVELOPER IN AMERICA THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY'S PROTECTIONS ARE MEANINGLESS. JUST SPEED BUMPS ON THE WAY TO A PROFIT. DON'T LET ST HELENA BE DESTROYED. IT'S NOT JUST REAL ESTATE, IT'S A LIVING, BREATHING HISTORY. IT'S CULTURE THAT SPEAKS, IT'S COMMUNITY THAT ENDURES. AND THE LAWS THAT PROTECT IT ARE NOT SYMBOLIC. THEY'RE BINDING. THEY'RE ALSO A SOLEMN PRO PROMISE, A PROMISE THIS COUNTY MADE TO THE PEOPLE OF ST. ALNA THAT THEIR LAND AND THEIR WAY OF LIFE WOULD NOT BE SACRIFICED ON THE ALTAR OF SPECULATION AND SPRAWL. THIS LAND CARRIES MEANING BEYOND ITS MARKET VALUE, BUT IF YOU OVERTURN YOUR VOTE, NO ONE WILL SEE IT AS A ONE-OFF. THEY'LL SEE IT AS A GREEN LIGHT. IT WILL SOUND A CLARION CALL TO EVERY DEVELOPER WITH MORE DOLLARS IN THEIR POCKETS THAN CENTS IN THEIR HEADS THAT SAYING, HELENA IS THEIRS FOR THE TAKING. IF THE RULES STAND IN YOUR WAY, JUST THROW ENOUGH MONEY, LAWYERS AND THREATS TO THE PROBLEM AND YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU WANT. DO YOUR JOBS. STAND WITH THE PEOPLE. STAND WITH THE GULLAH GEECHEE COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE A DUTY TO UPHOLD THE LAW, PROTECT YOUR VOTE, AND DEFEND THE CPO. PROVE THAT YOUR VOTES CANNOT BE BO BULLIED OR OVERTURNED. AND SHOW THIS COMMUNITY FOR ONCE. THANK YOU THAT BEAUFORD COUNTY'S WORD MEANS, MEANS SOMETHING. THANK YOU MR. WARREN. ALRIGHT, NEXT, NEXT ON OUR LIST IS, UM, STEVEN MURRAY, FORMER MAYOR OF BUFORT. COME ON UP, , IT'S DELAYED. ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COUNTY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS STEVEN MURRAY. I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO. UH, THANKS TO COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM. IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY ONLY. NOT AS FUNNY AS THE MOVIE VERSION. UH, AT ITS CORE, UH, THIS ISSUE IS NOT ABOUT WHETHER MORE GOLF COURSES OR GATES SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE PINE ISLAND PARCEL. [00:40:01] I THINK IT'S BEEN MADE CLEAR BY MOST OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DON'T WANT THAT. UH, I THINK THE REAL ISSUE IS HOW DEVELOPMENT IS MANAGED ACROSS BEAUFORT COUNTY AND WHETHER THE COUNTY CHOOSES A PREDICTABLE, TRANSPARENT POLICY-BASED APPROACH OR CONTINUES DOWN THIS PATH OF A ONE-OFF NEGOTIATIONS THAT INTRODUCE MORE UNCERTAINTY THAN CLARITY. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE SUBJECTIVE BY DESIGN, AND THAT'S REALLY THE PROBLEM. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS SOUND APPEALING BECAUSE THEY PROMISE CERTAINTY. IN PRACTICE, THEY OFTEN DELIVER THE OPPOSITE. A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PLACES THE COUNTY IN THE RULE OF NEGOTIATOR, NOT REGULATOR. INSTEAD OF APPLYING DEVELOPMENT CODE EQUALLY TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER, THE COUNTY IS DRAWN INTO A SUBJECTIVE BACK AND FORTH WHERE OUTCOMES DEPEND LESS ON POLICY AND MORE ON POLITICS, PERSONALITIES AND PRESSURE. INSTEAD OF, UH, IMPLYING THE DEVELOPMENT CODE EQUALLY TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER. UH, THIS SUBJECTIVITY ERODES TRUST NOT JUST IN THE PROCESS, BUT IN THE COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO FAIRNESS AND LONG-TERM PLANNING. FOR DEVELOPERS, THEY MUST NAVIGATE A SPECIAL PROCESS WITH OUTCOMES THAT CAN VARY WILDLY DEPENDING ON POLITICAL CLIMATE, PUBLIC SENTIMENT, OR THEIR LEGAL ADVICE. THIS ONLY THIS ONLY ALLOWS DEVELOPERS WITH DEEP POCKETS THAT CAN AFFORD LENGTHY AND UNPREDICTABLE PROCESSES TO BE SUCCESSFUL. DISINCENTIVIZING, LESS AFFLUENT PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTORS, WHICH I BELIEVE STIFLES INNOVATION AND CREATIVITY IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OUTCOMES FOR THE PUBLIC CITIZENS ARE ASKED TO TRUST PRIVATE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT CODE SAYS SHOULD BE ALLOWED. THIS UNDERMINES CONFIDENCE IN BOTH GOVERNMENT AND DEVELOPMENT. IF THE COUNTY WANTS PREDICTABLE OUTCOMES, ENFORCE THE DEVELOPMENT CODE CONSISTENTLY. IF THE APPLICANT WANTS A DIFFERENT RESULT, THEY CAN REQUEST A TEXT AMENDMENT, A MAP AMENDMENT, A ZONING CHANGE, OR APPLY TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS CHANGES THAT ARE VETTED THROUGH A TRANSPARENT AND STATUTORY PROCESS. QUITE SIMPLY, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ARE NOT HOW BEAUFORT COUNTY OR YOU SHOULD BE DOING BUSINESS. THANKS TO MANY OF YOU, 10 OF YOU. BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS A STRONG, THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT REFLECTS DECADES OF PLANNING, PUBLIC INPUT AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE, ESPECIALLY YOU MADAM CHAIR, WHO'VE BEEN AT THE TABLE FOR DECADES, BYPASSING IT THROUGH AD HOC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS SENDS THE MESSAGE THAT THE RULES ARE OPTIONAL FOR THOSE WHO CAN NEGOTIATE HARDER, HIRE MORE CONSULTANTS, OR THREATEN LITIGATION. THE COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT PROCESS SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT, EQUITABLE, AND PREDICTABLE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE SEEKING TO WORK AROUND EXISTING AND LONG-TERM STANDING LAND USE RULES LIKE ELVIA TINO, HIS ANONYMOUS FUNDERS, THEIR ATTORNEY KEVIN DUKES WITH THE HARVEY AND BATTY LAW FIRM ARE ATTEMPTING WITH THIS PROJECT MEET NONE OF THOSE BENCHMARKS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ALLOW THESE LEGAL CHALLENGES TO PROCEED. THE COUNTY HAS A DUTY TO DEFEND ITS PLANNING FRAMEWORK BACKING DOWN NOW WHAT'S SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. ONE IN WHICH ANY WELL-RESOURCED APPLICANT, THANK YOU CAN STRONG ARM THE PUBLIC PROCESS. THANK YOU, APPRECIATE BUFORT COUNTY DESERVES A PLANNING PROCESS THAT TREATS EVERYONE EQUALLY TIMES OVER, NOT ONE THAT RESORTS THOSE WHO PUSH THE HARDEST, THREATEN THE LOUDEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHO'S THAT? UM, OKAY, OUR NEXT LET'S, I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THREE MINUTES. THAT'S IT. CHARLES SPURLOCK. CHARLES SPURLOCK. FIRST TIME I EVER COME TO A COUNTY MEETING. I'M LIFELONG RESIDENT BORN NAVAL HOSPITAL 35 YEARS AGO. UM, THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PEOPLE SPOKE WHERE THEY WANTED AND NOTHING P****S ME OFF MORE THAN A POLITICIAN THINKING HE KNOWS BETTER THAN WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. THAT I DON'T HAVE NO CONTROL AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. I DON'T HAVE NO CONTROL OF STATE LEVEL, BUT I SURE AS HELL HAVE A VOTE HERE. AND I HAVE TO SAY, SO HERE THERE'S 16,000 PEOPLE IN YOUR DISTRICT. THAT'S ABOUT 4,000 HOUSES. GET IN LINE WITH WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. OR I SWEAR TO GOD, I WILL GO TO EVERY HOUSE IN YOUR DISTRICT AND TELL THEM WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SIR, WE'RE NOT SIR. PLEASE FINE REFRAIN FROM FROM PERSONAL SPEECH, BUT GET IN LINE WITH THE PEOPLE WANT. THANK YOU ALL. NEXT DOWN OUR LIST IS GRANT MCCLURE. I OUTSIDE. HELLO, I, I'M GRANT MCCLURE. I WORK FOR THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE, UH, WHICH IS A 5 0 1 C3 ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCACY ORGANIZATION. AND, UM, UH, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR 10 TO ONE VOTE BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND ASK YOU TO, UH, TO UPHOLD THAT VOTE AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE CPO FOR ST. HELENA ISLAND. UM, JUST ON A PERSONAL NOTE, UM, I'VE REALLY GROWN FOND OF, OF FISHING AROUND ST. HELENA ISLAND WITH MY DAD. UM, REALLY SPECIAL MEMORIES. AS A YOUNG PERSON IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND OUR WATERWAYS AND ENSURING THAT, UH, THE NEXT GENERATION HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THOSE RESOURCES AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SPECIAL PROPERTY, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S PROTECTED FOR A REASON. UM, AND [00:45:01] I'M ASKING YOU TO UPHOLD THOSE PROTECTIONS. UM, AND I JUST, UH, WANNA ADVISE YOU THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THIS MOTION TO RESCIND, UH, MAY BE OUT OF ORDER. UM, OUR, OUR LEGAL, UH, ADVICE, UH, OUR LEGAL COUNSEL HAS SUGGESTED THAT, UM, THAT MOTION, UH, MAY NOT BE VALID TO BEGIN WITH. UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND, UH, AGAIN, AS A YOUNG PERSON LIVING IN BEAUFORT CARE DEEPLY ABOUT FISHING, ABOUT BEING OUTDOORS, UH, PROTECTING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, THE LAW ENFORCE HERE. AND, AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE. I CALLED ON MR. SPURLOCK BEFORE I CALLED ON ARNOLD BROWN. ARNOLD BROWN HAD SIGNED UP BEFORE HIM. ARNOLD BROWN, YOU SIGNED. UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, COUNSEL. AND, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO HAVE, UH, WILL DO IN THE FUTURE OR THE GOOD WORK. ALSO WANT TO THANK LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE ON ST. HENA ISLAND. AND THEY, UH, FOR THAT BAR AND GRILL SITUATION THAT WE HAD, WE JUST WANTED JUST, JUST, JUST THANK THEM FOR THEIR GOOD WORK AND, UH, BRINGING RESOLUTION TO THAT, UH, LITTLE BIT OF HOME, UH, HOMEWORK. I'M GONNA MENTION GREEN ACRES FOOTBALL FACTS AND OPINION, AND MAYBE JOHNNY COCHRAN. UM, HARVEY BADIE, KEVIN DUKES. MARGARET MARGIE BRIGHT AND THEIR TEAM CAME TOGETHER AFTER SEPTEMBER 22ND MEETING, AND THEY ASKED THEMSELVES, UH, WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT'S OUR NEXT STEP? WHAT IS OUR STRATEGY? AND I THINK THEY ASKED THEMSELVES AS WELL, WHO CAN WE BLAME? OKAY, WHO CAN WE BLAME? UM, AND I THINK THEY CAME UP WITH THE, UH, TO, TO, TO BLAME COUNTY COUNCIL TO BLAME, NOT, EXCUSE ME, BLAME THE COUNTY TO BLAME THE COUNTY. WHY WOULD THEY BLAME THE COUNTY? WELL, UH, WHO ELSE COULD THEY BLAME? COVID IS NOT AVAILABLE. THE WEATHER WAS GOOD. UM, SO THEY HAD TO BLAME SOMEONE. SO THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE COUNTY COUNCIL. UH, IF THIS WAS A CRIMINAL CA CASE, THIS WOULD BE CALLED MALPRACTICE. UM, THE BLAME GOES TO THE LVO TEAM AND THEIR ATTORNEYS. WHY, WHY LVO WILLINGLY, KNOWINGLY, AND WILLINGLY BOUGHT LAND THAT WAS RESTRICTED. THE RESTRICTIONS ARE LAWFUL AND CONSTITUTIONAL. THEY PURCHASE A LAND, UM, AND THEIR CASE HAS NO MERIT. AND THEY REALIZE THAT, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO FORWARD BECAUSE THE ODDS ARE THAT THEY WOULD NOT WIN THAT CASE. THAT'S IN BOTH CASES. THE LAWSUIT WAS OFFERED. UH, THE LAWSUIT IS AN OFFER, AND IT WAS NOT ACCEPTED. PULTE HOLMES WAS DENIAL DENIED PREVIOUSLY, AND THEY MEANT MORE QUALIFICATIONS THAN PINE ISLAND DID. SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS WERE PUT ON THE TABLE. SO THEY ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT CAN WE DO? WE, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING. WE PUT MONEY ON THE TABLE AND IT WAS NOT ACCEPTED. NOT TO MENTION THE CPO LAW OF 19 95, 19 99, 2003, SPOT ZONING LAWS, LACK OF COMMUNITY, UH, AND LACK OF GOVERNMENT ENDORSEMENT ONLINE POSITION, NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THE NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENT. SO THEY HAVE A, SO THEIR HAIR TRYING TO, THEY THREW SPAGHETTI ON THE WALL AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEONE TO, UH, BUY INTO IT. THEY PUT KOOL-AID IN FRONT OF YOU AND THEY EXPECT YOU TO DRINK IT. SO I'M ASKING YOU TO HOLD FAST TO THE DECISION THAT YOU MADE. YOU MADE A GOOD DECISION, AND DON'T BE AFRAID. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, ALL NEXT. WE HAVE MS. JESSE WHITE. I DIDN'T BECAUSE I HAD IT FOLDED UP. I HAD IT. UM, I APOLOGIZE. IT WAS FOLDED OVER AND I CALLED STEVEN MURRAY BEFORE YOU. OH, NO, NO WORRIES. YEAH. UM, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL MEMBERS. MY NAME'S JESSE WHITE. I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH SCALP AND AS OUTLINED IN THE LETTER THAT WAS JOINTLY SUBMITTED LAST WEEK ON BEHALF OF THE PRO CPO INTERVENERS IN THE LITIGATION BROUGHT BY PINE ISLAND AGAINST BEAUFORT COUNTY, UM, WHICH QUEEN QU HAS REFERENCED, WE ARE URGING COUNSEL TO REJECT THE ATTEMPT TO RESCIND THE 10 TO ONE VOTE DENYING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR A GATED GOLF RESORT ON PINE ISLAND BECAUSE IT VIOLATES THE COUNTY'S CODE. IT'S PROCEDURALLY IMPROPER UNDER THE RULES, ROBERT'S RULES, AND IT UNDERMINES PUBLIC INTEGRITY, UM, STABILITY AND RELIABILITY IN OUR, UH, DECISION MAKING PROCESS. FIRST RESCISSION IS NOT LISTED AS ONE OF THE THREE OPTIONS THAT COUNSEL SHALL TAKE ON A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT UNDER THE CODE. [00:50:01] BUT EVEN SO, UNDER ROBERT'S RULES, A MOTION TO RESCIND APPLIES ONLY TO ACTIONS THAT HAVE CONTINUING FORCE AND EFFECT, AND WERE ADOPTED AS THE RESULT OF A MAIN MOTION. HERE. NO SUCH ACTION EXISTS BECAUSE COUNSEL DID NOT ADOPT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND IN FACT, OVERWHELMINGLY REJECTED IT. SO THERE'S NOTHING OF CONTINUING FORCE AND EFFECT THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED TO RESCIND. FURTHER, A MOTION TO RESCIND CANNOT BE MADE WHEN SOMETHING HAS BEEN DONE BECAUSE OF THE VOTE THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDO. HERE, THE PINE ISLAND DEVELOPERS WITHDREW THEIR ZONING REQUEST AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THE PROPERTY FROM THE CPO AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS DENIED. THAT WITHDRAWAL CANNOT BE UNDONE, AND IT TRIGGERS A SIX MONTH WAITING PERIOD UNDER THE CODE, ALL OF WHICH MAKE THE MOTION TO RESCIND IMPROPER. LASTLY, BUT ARGUABLY MOST SIGNIFICANTLY ENTERTAINING THIS MANEUVER TO UNDO A 10 TO ONE VOTE FROM A MEETING JUST SEVERAL WEEKS PRIOR, IN WHICH HUNDREDS OF CITIZENS SHOWED UP AND PARTICIPATED INTO HOURS LONG PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL NEARLY TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. SIGNALS TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE COUNCIL'S DECISIONS CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO HAVE FINALITY, AND THAT THEIR VOICES DON'T MATTER. UNLIKE A MOTION TO RE RECONSIDER, WHICH HAS GUARDRAILS TO PREVENT MISUSE AND ABUSE, A MOTION TO REIM SEEMINGLY DOES NOT. AND IF UTILIZED IN THIS WAY, SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR DECISION MAKING IN BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT WILL ERODE PUBLIC TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY'S ABILITY TO GOVERN. THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN CONSIDERING THE PROPOSAL FOR A GATED GOLF RESORT ON PINE ISLAND FOR OVER THREE YEARS. MOST RECENTLY, THE 10 TO ONE DENIAL VOTE OCCURRED AFTER MONTHS IN WHICH COUNCIL USED TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL OUTSIDE LAWYER TO ASSIST IN THE NEGOTIATING PROCESS. IT'S LUDICROUS TO BELIEVE THAT AN ALLEGED OFFER BY THE DEVELOPERS TO SETTLE THEIR LITIGATION AGAINST THE COUNTY IN EXCHANGE FOR WHAT THEY WANT IS ANYTHING NEW. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE. WE URGE YOU TO UPHOLD THE LAW, PROTECT PUBLIC TRUST, MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT IS TWICE REJECTED, THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL THAT CUNNING COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM NOW SEEKS TO RESURRECT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, NICK. OOPS, GOOD EVENING. KEVIN DUKES OF THE HARVEY AND BATTY LAW FIRM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND I'M STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING TO ASK THIS COUNSEL TO CONSIDER, UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT HAS BEEN PUT BEFORE YOU, UH, PRIOR, AND THAT, UH, THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WITH GOING FORWARD WITH THE MOTION TO RESCIND NOT FOR APPROVAL TODAY. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING ASKED, BUT SIMPLY TO PROVIDE A FULL, ACCURATE AND HONEST PICTURE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED, WHAT'S BEEN OFFERED, AND TO CREATE A CLEAN RECORD. WE JUST HEARD FROM MS. WHITE, WHO IS NOW WITH SCALP, FORMERLY THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE, ABOUT BLAME AND CHANGING AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE RULES SAY OR WHAT THEY DON'T SAY. IF THERE'S ANYONE TO BLAME, IT IS SCALP WHO, WITH QUEEN QUT THROUGH THE CPO COMMITTEE, INTENTIONALLY MANIPULATED A FEDERAL STUDY TO GET WHAT THEY WANTED, WHICH WAS LANGUAGE IN THE CPO THAT THEY COULD USE IN 0.2 RIGHT NOW, WHICH WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS A USE GOLF, WHICH WAS ALLOWED UNDER THE CPO PRIOR. THIS IS IMPORTANT. PRIOR TO MR. TROIANO BUYING THE PROPERTY, THE USE OF GOLF WAS ALLOWED, BUT THEN IT WAS CHANGED, AND IT WASN'T CHANGED BY MR. TROIANO'S LAWYERS. IT WAS CHANGED BY ACTIVIST, BY SCALP, BY THEIR LAWYERS, LAWYERS WHO NOW REPRESENT QUEEN QUET IN THE FEDERAL SUIT AGAINST MR. TROIANO. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO SAY WHO CHANGED THE RULES OR WHO HAD BACK ROOM DEALS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT THE ACTUAL FACTS WERE. YOU HEAR RUMBLING, NOBODY KNOWS THIS. WE'VE SHARED THE AUDIO WITH YOU, AND YOU NOW KNOW IT, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS CHANGED, AND YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS CHANGED FOR A REASON. AND YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS PINNED TO A NATIONAL PARK SERVICE STUDY FOR A REASON TO GIVE CREDIBILITY TO WHAT THEY WANTED TO SAY TO THEIR INTERESTS. SO THAT'S ONE REASON WE WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO BE RECONSIDERED AGAIN, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THE FACTS. EVEN EVERY, MOST OF WHAT YOU'VE HEARD SO FAR ARE NOT FACTUAL. GOING BACK TO WHAT, WHETHER IT WAS ALLOWED OR WHETHER IT WASN'T. WELL, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED ONCE A FINAL PROPOSAL WAS PUT FORWARD, THERE WERE FIVE DAYS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OFFER THAT'S EVER BEEN PRESENTED TO BEAUFORT COUNTY. AND THERE WERE FIVE DAYS. AND THOSE FIVE [00:55:01] DAYS WE WENT UP AGAINST THREE YEARS OF MISSTATEMENTS MISLEADING INFORMATION. STRAIGHT OUT LIES THREE YEARS GOING BACK TO THOSE ENTITIES AND THOSE ORGANIZATIONS INTERNALLY CHANGING LANGUAGE OF A FEDERAL STUDY TO GET TO THIS POINT. SO THEY CAN STAND HERE AND MAKE THEIR ARGUMENTS. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, OUR LAST SPEAKER IS LB OTRO. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL. LBO, TROIANO ONE, ST. LENVILLE ROAD. UH, WE'D LIKE TO START THIS EVENING BY ACKNOWLEDGING HOW SENSITIVE THIS TOPIC HAS BECOME, UM, WHY THE ROOM LOOKS, THE WAY IT LOOKS, AND WHY IT CONSISTENTLY REMAINS THIS WAY. UM, UM, I DO FIND IT IRONIC THAT WE'VE GOT ANOTHER SERIES OF LETTERS COMING IN WITH THE SAME RATIONALE, URGING DENIAL OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, CITING THE SAME LANGUAGE, CITING THE SAME REASON, CITING THE SAME FACTS THAT GOLF IS EROSIVE AND DESTRUCTIVE TO A CULTURE. YOU ALL KNOW THAT IS NOT THE CASE AT ALL, AND I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON THAT, THAT NOT BEING THE CASE, AS KEVIN SAID, AS MR. DUKE SAID, FIVE DAYS, NOT ONLY FOR TRUTH AND HONESTY AND TRANSPARENCY AND OTHER THINGS SUCH AS CONSISTENCY AND EQUITY AND GUARANTEEING CONFIDENCE IN THIS COUNCIL IN THE CDC AND THE STABILITY AND RELIABILITY OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS. THAT'S EXACTLY WHY THIS NEEDS TO BE RESCINDED AND RECONSIDERED BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY THE CONSISTENT MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE EXPECTED TO HEAR FROM YOU. AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY A MONTH AGO, DECISIONS OF ALL KINDS NEED TO BE BASED IN, IN FACT, IN TRUTH, IN HONESTY, IN TRANSPARENCY. AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE WORD THAT ANYONE SAID, SUBJECT MATTER EXCLUDED, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY HOW ALL DECISIONS I BELIEVE SHOULD BE MADE IN A DAILY LIFE AND YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES AND YOUR RELATIONSHIPS, MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHEN YOU ARE ELECTED TO DO SO. AND NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUTH. ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS FOR THE ABILITY TO, TO HAVE A PUBLIC EDUCATION PROCESS TO DISCUSS THAT TRUTH. AND FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER, AS MR. DUKE SAID, NOT ONLY THE MOST, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT GENEROUS, BUT THE, THE MOST TRANSFORMATIVE OFFER THAT COULD POSSIBLY COME OUT OF ANY DEVELOPMENT PERIOD AND STOP. BUT FOR THAT TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE PUBLIC AS WELL. THE HOUSING TRUST CALLED THE DOLLARS BEING MADE AVAILABLE TRANSFORMATIVE SINCE 9 22. THAT PUBLIC CHARADE OF A MEETING, YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE HOUSING TRUST THREE TIMES TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTENTIAL CRISIS THAT IS AFFORDABLE IN WORKFORCE HOUSING. YOU HAVE NOT HEARD FROM MR. CLAUDE HICKS, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. YOU HAVE A LETTER FROM HIM AND YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC. BUT I PERSONALLY HAVE RECEIVED UPWARDS OF A HUNDRED PHONE CALLS FROM FORGET DEVELOPERS, FROM PEOPLE THAT NEED HOMES THAT NEED AFFORDABLE HOME REPAIR, THAT NEED PLACES FOR THEIR KIDS, THEIR FAMILIES, OUR NURSES, OUR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, OUR POLICE CHIEFS, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAND ACCOLADES TO ALL THE TIME THAT LIVE 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR AWAY. SO WHAT I ASK THIS BODY TO DO IS DO EXACTLY WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS ASKING FOR, BE CONSISTENT, TRANSPARENT, AND ADVOCATE FOR EQUITY AND TRUST IN THE PROCESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED. UH, WE WILL GO FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA. UH, WE HAVE LATE, WE, COUNCILMAN PASSMAN HAS JOINED US BACK ON ZOOM. THANK YOU. [9. LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS] UH, LIAISON AND COMMITTEE REPORTS. WE'LL START WITH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, TOM, FROM THE AIRPORTS BOARD TO REPORT? JUST ONE THING. UM, JOHN REBEL, IS HE HERE TONIGHT? JOHN? NO. UH, HE RECEIVED AN AWARD ACCREDITED AIRPORT EXECUTIVE DESIGNATION. UM, AND, AND, AND I KNOW FROM TALKING TO AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE, NOT ONLY ON HILTON HEAD, BUT FROGMORE THE OTHER AIRPORT, UM, THAT THAT GROUP, HE AND STEVE PERRY AND ALL THEY, THEY DO AN AWFUL GREAT JOB. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM ON THAT AWARD. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, BEAUFORT, JASPER SEWER WATER AUTHORITY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MR. GLOVER? UM, I SHOULD, BUT I DON'T TONIGHT, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE I BRING SOMETHING BACK. UM, OKAY. LATER, NEXT TIME. OKAY. UM, BLUFFTON FIRE DISTRICT, ANY REPORTS FROM THEM? UH, JUST THAT THEY GOT THEIR NEW POLICE CHIEF IN FIRE. CHIEF. FIRE CHIEF. THANK YOU. SORRY. . OKAY. UM, BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. UH, I ATTENDED THEIR MEETING. UH, THEY JUST PUT THE FINAL TEAR ON THE BLUFFTON [01:00:01] BEAUFORT BEAUFORT HOSPITAL COMMUNITY HOSPITAL THIS PAST WEEK. THEY CELEBRATED THAT. UM, DID I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US WERE ABLE TO MAKE THAT, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS A GREAT EVENT. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, MS. TABER NECK FROM BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL? I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING. NO. THEY HAVE INTERVIEWED TWO POTENTIAL NEW, UH, BOARD MEMBERS LAST WEEK TOO. CHAIRMAN, DID YOU REC, UM, TALK ABOUT THE YES. GROUNDBREAKING. THANKS. WERE YOU THERE AT THE YEAH, I WAS THERE AT, YEAH, WHEN THEY PUT THE, UM, IN THE EMERGENCY, NEW EMERGENCY ROOM AT, I'M THERE AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE ISLAND AND IT, IT'S GOING TO FIT IN VERY NICELY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. AND THEN, UM, ANY OF THE FIRE DISTRICT, OTHER FIRE DISTRICTS, DUSKY OR BURTON, ANY REPORTS FROM THEM? NONE. ALL RIGHT. UH, I HAVE, I'M SORRY, DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. MM-HMM . OKAY. UM, I, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE SOUTHERN CAROLINA ALLIANCE, UH, BOARD. THE LAST BOARD MEETING WAS, UH, LAST WEEK AND NEXT YEAR THEY'RE GONNA BE CELEBRATING 30 YEARS OF BEING IN BUSINESS. AND I KNOW 11 D ONE, WE'RE GONNA BE VOTING TONIGHT TO, UH, PUT YOU ON EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, WHICH YOU'RE, UM, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, I ALSO WENT TO THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD AND I WANNA THANK ALL THE PEOPLE. IF ANYONE IS IN THIS ROOM, I WANNA THANK ALL THE PEOPLE FROM ST. HELENA THAT WENT ALL THE WAY OVER TO OKA TEA TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT A RV PARK THAT'S GOING IN. AND NOT ONLY WAS IS AN RV PARK GOING IN, THERE'S ALSO WAS APPROVAL OF A WEDDING RESORT MONTHS AGO. NONE OF THIS CAME THROUGH THE NATURAL RESOURCES COMMITTEE AND NONE OF IT CAME TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS HAPPENED. AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT HAPPENED. AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THE RV PARK. IT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH RURAL AND QUIET ENVIRONMENTALLY I SENSE CHARACTER OF ST. HELENA. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE PRIVATE ROAD AND TRAFFIC OF THOSE RVS TRYING TO GET OUT ON THE MAIN ROAD. IT'S ONLY A TWO LANE ROAD. THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS. AND I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS HAPPENED. WHY DIDN'T IT COME TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE, JUST LIKE PINE ISLAND DID. HAS, OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. I, I WILL LOOK TO OUR ADMINISTRATOR AND, UM, PROBABLY OUR ATTORNEY AND CHUCK ATKINSON. CHUCK ATKINSON MEETING. YES, HE'S HERE. ROB, ROB IS ABLE TO ANSWER THAT THE, UH, WEDDING VENUE IS, THAT'S NOT THE DISCUSSION. WELL, SHE BROUGHT IT UP. WANNA COME UP TO THE, TO THE MAY? YES, PLEASE. SOME COME UP TO 'CAUSE THE, THE PEOPLE THAT FORWARD. ALRIGHT. HE'S COMING FORWARD. THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AT THE SIGN AUDIENCE PLEASE REGARDING THE RV PARK ARE VERY CONCERNED. SO I WOULD LIKE AN EXPLANATION TOO. GOOD AFTERNOON. SO WHEN YOU HAVE BUYRIGHT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN A ZONING DISTRICT WHERE CERTAIN USES ARE ALLOWED, THEY DO NOT COME BEFORE COUNCIL. COUNCIL VOTES FOR A ZONING MAP THAT ALLOWS CERTAIN ALLOWABLE USES WITHIN DISTRICTS. SO COUNCIL DID VOTE TO PUT CERTAIN USES WITHIN DISTRICTS, WHETHER IT BE AN RV PARK OR ANY OTHER USE WHEN SOMEBODY APPLIES. AND THAT USE IS IN A DISTRICT WHERE IT IS ALLOWED, IT IS ALLOWED. THEY GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, IT GOES THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PERMIT PROCESS. AND ONCE THAT DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS MINISTERIALLY, THE REQUIREMENTS ARE MET, THE PERMIT IS ISSUED. SO WE CAN MEET OFFLINE AND DISCUSS HOW THE ZONING MAPS WORK, HOW THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS WORKS, AND, UH, OR WE CAN COME BACK AND DO A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL, HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE THING. I'M SORRY, I'M NOT FINISHED. UM, ALSO THERE'S A RUMOR THAT THE 18 HOLE PUTT PUTT GOLF COURSE IS GOING IN. IS THAT CORRECT? I'D HAVE NO IDEA. YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THAT ONE? NO, MA'AM. YES. COUNCILMAN BROWN, I WOULD RECOMMEND OKAY. THROUGH MIKE AND CHUCK, YOU SET UP A MEETING WITH THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TOO. WELL, AND THESE APPLICATIONS ARE, ARE PUBLIC RECORD, SO WE CAN, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GET YOU THOSE IF YOU WANT. YEAH. BUT, OKAY, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND. OKAY. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID. MM-HMM . ALL RIGHT. BUT HOW DOES THAT NOT APPLY TO PINE ISLAND TOO? THEY HAVE BUYRIGHT, RIGHT? IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. IT IS TWO DIFFERENT SUBJECTS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO AGAIN, THERE ARE, THERE ARE ALLOWED USES RESIDENTIAL. AND THIS IS COMMERCIAL. IS THAT THE DIFFERENCE? NO, NO MA'AM. NO. IT HAS TO DO WITH ALLOWED USES WITHIN ZONING DISTRICTS AND WITHIN OVERLAYS. SO IS THAT PART OF THE, UM, COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW BOARD REVIEW OR 2024? 20 20 40. I MEAN, IS IT THE COMP PLAN? AS PART OF THE COMP PLAN? SO THE COMP PLAN IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT IS USED LONG TERM. IT'S CALLED THE 2040 PLAN THAT IS USED BY COUNSEL FOR GENERAL DIRECTION. AND [01:05:01] THEN COUNSEL ADOPTS THE ZONING MAPS AND UPDATES THAT PERIODICALLY. SO THE RV PARK IS ALLOWED IN THE WEDDING RESORT WILL BE ALLOWED BECAUSE OF THE ZONING? CORRECT. THOSE ARE ALLOWED USES WITHIN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS. BUT PINE ISLAND IS NOT FOR CORRECT. OKAY. LET'S SMOKE, LET'S GO FORWARD ABOUT REPORTS. THANK YOU. UM, LIBRARY BOARD, UM, COUNCILMAN PASSMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO. LIBRARY BOARD. ANY REPORTS FROM THEM? YES. OKAY. GO AHEAD. IN NOVEMBER MM-HMM . THE LIBRARY BOARD IS ONE WONDERFUL GROUP. LIBRARIES WERE ISSUED, USED LIBRARIES IN THE ENTIRE STATE. UH, WE'RE, UH, LEGISLATION THAT WILL HAVE INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S GIVEN TO A COUNTY, ONE OF THE COUNTIES THAT CONTINUE TO GROW AND ARE, THANK YOU ALL. ONE OTHER THING. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I ATTENDED THE SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF LEGISLATIVE OH OH OH GREEN MM-HMM . AND I AM VERY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE ONE COMMITTEE THAT I MADE A PRESENTATION TO ALLOW COUNTIES THE ABILITY TO WAIT FEES FOR AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. AND THAT'D HAVE TO GO TO THE LEGISLATORS. THAT'S CORRECT. CORRECT. IS THAT RIGHT? IT'D HAVE TO GO TO THE LEGISLATORS. OKAY. YES. SO THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE POLICY STATEMENTS THAT SCAC. AND COULD YOU FORWARD THAT TO ALL OF COUNCIL MEMBERS? SO WE'RE AWARE OF THAT TOO, WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, YEAH. UM, THE WORDING. SO, SO THAT YOU ENTIRE, ENTIRE PACKET. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. THAT'D BE GREAT. GREAT. UM, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANNA REPORT ON THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE? I, I, WE MET, BUT, UM, I DON'T RECALL THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT FROM THAT. UM, AND THEN, SO LOCO, MS. TAVERNA. SO, SO LOKO MET THAT, UM, THAT IS THE SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY REGIONAL BOARD MEETING. WE MET 1125. THEY SHOWED A REVIEW OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON INITIATIVES AND HILTON HEAD ISLAND INITIATIVES AND PRIORITIES. AND SOMETHING CAME UP RELATIVE TO OUR RESOLUTION FOR THE CITIZEN TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. WELL, BEFORE I MAKE IT, THE MAYORS ALL TALKED ABOUT THEY WEREN'T GONNA HAVE A MEETING PRIOR TO DECEMBER 5TH TO MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY ALL MEET TOMORROW. THE NEXT DAY. THE NEXT DAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJUST OUR RESOLUTION TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE FOR THAT CITIZEN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. I'D LIKE TO EXTEND IT TO JANUARY 15TH SO THAT OUR FOUR MUNICIPALITIES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELECT THEIR REPRESENTATIVE AND GET IT TO CHAIR ALSO. I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. THANK YOU. UH, ANY DIS ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? YES. DO YOU, COUNCILMAN DAWSON? DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THAT DEADLINE. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOT SUBMITTED THEIR NAMES UNTIL JANUARY 15TH. THANK YOU. . YEAH, THAT IS UNANIMOUS . SO CAN I GO ON WITH MY OTHER ONES, IF YOU DON'T MIND? OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. RELATIVE TO B-J-W-S-A, I HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING AND THEY DID A STELLAR JOB ANSWERING QUESTIONS AS TO WHY THE WATER IS BROWNED DOWN ON THE SOUTHERN END OF MY DISTRICT AND INTO MR. LAWSON'S DISTRICT. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WAS THERE, BOARD MEMBER WAS THERE. THEY ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION. UM, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT I WATCHED IT ONLINE. THEY DISCUSSED AN S-C-D-O-T UPDATE, UPDATE ON COUNTY RESURFACING AND PRESERVATION PROJECTS FOR YEAR EIGHT, AND LOOKED AHEAD FOR YEAR NINE. IT'S AVAILABLE ON VIDEO FOR EVERYONE. THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE REQUEST BY SOMERSET POINT HOA, FOR THE COUNTY TO TAKE THEIR ROADS. AND IT WAS A ROBUST DISCUSSION AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS SENT TO ALL OF US, IS NO, IT WOULD OPEN THE DOOR FOR OTHER HOAS TO TURN THEIR ROADS OVER TO THE COUNTY. WE HAD A CHAT WITH COUNCIL AT BLUFFTON LIBRARY, MR. REETS, MR. PASSMAN, MS. HOWARD, MS. BROWN, MYSELF, AND MR. LAWSON ALL ATTENDED. UH, WE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSION THERE. EVERYBODY HAD SOME REALLY GOOD [01:10:01] IDEAS. I WENT TO AN ONBOARDING SESSION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO REVIEW EXPECTATION OF BOARD MEMBERS. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IN NOVEMBER HELD A LOT OF COMMITTEE MEETINGS. I DIDN'T WATCH 'EM ALL. I'M GONNA BE HONEST. FOR MR. SMITH, IT WAS FINANCE OPERATIONS, ACADEMIC COMMITTEE AND LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. THEY'VE BEEN VERY BUSY. BUT AT THEIR 1121 WORKSHOP, THEY DISCUSSED BOARD GOVERNANCE AND EVALUATING INTERNAL BOARD PROCESSES. AND THEY SET THEIR MEETING CALENDAR FOR 2026. AND THEN WE HAD THE LATS MEETING. THAT'S A LOW COUNTRY AREA TRANSPORTATION STUDY MEETING. THEY REVIEWED THE NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY MASTER TRANSIT PLAN, WHICH IS SOLICITING INPUT AS WE SPEAK, S-C-D-O-T SAFETY PERFORMANCE TARGETS RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES, WHICH SHOULD BE ZERO, BUT IT'S IN THERE ABOVE ZERO. AND THE NUMBER OF SERIOUS INJURIES, AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF NON-MOTORIZED FATALITIES AND INJURIES. THAT WOULD BE BIKES AND PEDESTRIANS. UH, CRAIG WYNN GAVE US AN UPDATE ON S-C-D-O-T PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY WIDENING I 95, WIDENING SC 17 BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. UM, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING 174 MILES OF ROADS AND BRIDGES TO A BUDGET OF $2.18 BILLION. WE HAD UPDATES FROM OUR OWN, MR. FRA AND JASPER COUNTY AND PALMETTO BREEZE. AND ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE INFORMATION, IT'S RIGHT HERE. 'CAUSE I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER ALL OF IT. THANK YOU. OKAY, ALICE? YES. COUNCILMAN DAWSON. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE, UM, NORTHERN REGIONAL, UH, YES SIR. UH, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. UM, THE NORTHERN REGIONAL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN GROUP, UM, HAD A MEETING, I THINK IT WAS TWO FRIDAYS AGO, WHERE OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER KEVIN SULLIVAN, PRESENTED, UM, A PLAN, ANOTHER REGIONAL PLAN THAT WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FROM ST. HENER FROM THE FALL ENDS OF ST. HENER TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT FROM THE FAR END OF SHELDON AND THE BIGGEST STATE INTO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, PROVIDING, UH, ROUTES AND TRANSPORTATION TO ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO COME INTO, INTO THE CITY AND INTO THE, UH, MUNICIPALITY TO DOCK THE OFFICE AND VISIT LIKE THAT. UM, THE PLAN IS ACTUALLY ON THE LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENT WEBSITE. AND, UH, IF YOU GO ON THAT WEBSITE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR COMMUNITY, UH, UH, PUBLIC INPUT TO, UH, ACTUALLY, UM, GIVE YOUR, UH, UH, APPROVAL OF THE PLAN OR SUGGESTIONS TO IMPROVE THE PLAN. BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST A PROPOSAL BEING CONSIDERED RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD WITH, UH, MORE DETAILS AND MORE INFORMATION. IT WAS EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. YES, SIR. IT WAS. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER BUSINESS AT THIS TIME? MAY SIGNING? YES, MA'AM. IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF I COULD HAVE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. YES. ALRIGHT. MADAM CHAIR AND OUR NOVEMBER 10TH MEETING, I PROVIDED NOTICE OF AN INTENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A RECESSION OF A PREVIOUS VOTE TO COUNCIL. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT NOTICE GIVEN AT THE MEETING, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL RESCIND THE VOTE COUNCIL TOOK ON AGENDA ITEM 13 C OF SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025 AGENDA, WHICH WAS TO DISAPPROVE ORDINANCE 20 25 44 TO AUTHORIZE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND PINE ISLAND PROPERTY HOLDINGS. LLC. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A SECOND BY MS. BROWN. UM, AT THIS TIME WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION. ANY COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? I DON'T MIND KICKING IT OFF IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD PREFER, BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO FIRST, THEY MAY. DOES ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO, WELL, YOU MAKE THE MOTION FIRST. YOU MAY. YEAH, YOU CAN GO FIRST. NOT A PROBLEM. UM, FIRST OFF, I WANNA SAY THAT I AGREE. I HATE THAT WE HAVE TO BE HERE AGAIN DOING THIS. SO I PROMISE YOU, UH, EVERY COMMENT THAT'S SENT, EVERY EMAIL, UM, I SEE IT, OTHER PEOPLE SEE IT. AND THE MORE I READ, THE MORE REASON THAT I'M GLAD I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. AND THERE'S PROBABLY ACTUALLY A SIGN WITH ONE OF MY QUOTES IN HERE. THEY TAGGED IT ON MY COMMENT, THE OTHER SIDE'S, THE BETTER SIDE. UM, IN THERE, IT EVEN STATES THAT LESS HOUSES AND LESS DOCKS IS ALWAYS MY GOAL, UM, FOR THIS COUNTY. UM, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I'M GLAD WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, BECAUSE THERE IS A NOTION THAT PEOPLE BELIEVE IF WE STOP THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH I'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, I COULD CARE LESS IF WE GET A GOLF COURSE OR NOT. ON ST. HELENA. PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT. I GET IT. BUT MY GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME. LESS HOUSES, LESS DOCKS BY A PERSON STILL BELIEVING THAT WE STOP A GOLF COURSE. THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. THAT HOUSES ARE GONNA BE BUILT BY. RIGHT? THERE CAN BE AN RV RESORT ON THAT PROPERTY BY RIGHT. THERE CAN BE A WEDDING VENUE ON THAT PROPERTY. BOTH OF 'EM ARE CONSIDERED RESORTS AND ONE OF THEM EVEN IS ALLOWED TO HAVE A GATE. 'CAUSE THERE'S [01:15:01] A GATE THERE ALREADY. UM, BY RIGHT, THAT PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR A MINIMUM OF 160 HOUSES, 160 SEPTIC TANKS AND 90 DOCKS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT IT'S NOT GONNA GET DONE. IT'S NOT GONNA BE DONE WELL, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THROUGH THE FINAL SRT PROJECT, THE FIRST 40 HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPLIED FOR, UM, THAT IS A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT AS OF LAST WEEK. IT'S THROUGH FINAL REVIEW. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE BIGGEST REASON I'M BRINGING THIS FORWARD, IS WE ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE A TWO WEEK NOTICE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC NOTICE. AND I THINK WE SHOULD. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THE PROCESS OF THAT IS TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH THE INFORMATION, THE PUBLIC ACTUALLY WASN'T FIVE DAYS. IT WAS THE FRIDAY BEFORE WHEN OUR AGENDA ACTUALLY GOT PUBLISHED. SO THE PUBLIC HAD A 48 HOUR NOTICE TO REVIEW A CONTRACT AGREEMENT OR THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED FOR THE AGENDA ON MONDAY. YES, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION DONE. YES, IT WENT ON FOR HOURS. I SAID IT BEFORE, I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT EVERYBODY CAME OUT, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS A RESPONSIBLE JOB OF US EDUCATING THE PUBLIC. AND I GENUINELY BELIEVE THAT. AND I REASSURED WITH THAT, WITH THE COMMENTS I CONTINUE TO READ ONLINE. 'CAUSE PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE THAT NO DEVELOPMENT IS AN OPTION. UM, THERE'S, IT'S ALREADY BEGINNING, WHICH SOMEBODY STATED THAT I HAVE 16,000 PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT AND 4,000 HOMES. WHAT THEY ALSO DON'T KNOW IS THERE'S ANOTHER 5,000 HOMES THAT CAN BE APPROVED IN BLUFFTON. AND I WOULD LOVE TO STOP EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE HOUSES IF POSSIBLE. AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO GET LESS ROOFTOPS ANY CHANCE WE CAN. THAT'S WHY I PUSH FOR THE GREEN SPACE REFERENDUM. AND I WAS ONE THAT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND TOOK AWAY THE TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM WHEN THAT FIRST PATH IS TO BUY DOWN DENSITY AND TO HAVE LESS HOUSES IN THIS COUNTY. THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY GOAL. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, YOU GUYS CAN READ THE COMMENTS, THAT'S FINE. I'M SURE A LOT OF 'EM ARE IN THIS ROOM. BUT THE POINT IS THAT I'VE ALWAYS STUCK TRUE IS I WANT LESS ROOFTOPS AND PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS. IF THIS GOLF COURSE GETS BUILT AND IT FAILS, WHICH I COULD CARE LESS IF IT GOES UNDER IN A YEAR, THAT LAND CAN NEVER BE BUILT ON AGAIN. THAT IS 380 ACRES PRESERVED, CAN NEVER BE BUILT ON AGAIN. SO THE PROCESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, WE'VE EVEN STATED IS TO GO THROUGH READING ONE, READING TWO, READING ONE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST PRESENTATION. WE HAVE DISCUSSION, WE SEE IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES WE CAN MAKE, GOES TO READING TWO, MAYBE GETS THUMBS UP, MAYBE GETS THUMBS DOWN TO GO TO READING THREE. AND THAT'S WHERE CHANGES SHOULD BE MADE IS DURING THAT PROCESS, THAT PROCESS NEVER HAPPENED, WHICH NEVER ALLOWED FOR EDUCATION PROCESS FOR THE PUBLIC. THERE'S INFORMATION, WE GOT THAT MONDAY NIGHT RIGHT BEFORE A VOTE. THERE'S NO WAY ANY OF US UP HERE CAN SAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROCESS ALL THAT INFORMATION IN 24 HOURS OR SIX HOURS BEFORE THE VOTE, OR 48 HOURS BEFOREHAND. SO YEAH, TO ME, THE THE, THE DISCUSSION HAS TO BE, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TAKING A VOTE ON FIRST READING, TAKING A VOTE ON RESCINDING THAT VOTE, BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW, ARE WE LOOKING AT 160 HOUSES, 160 SEPTIC TANKS, 90 DOCKS OR 49 HOUSES, NINE DOCKS AND A WATER TREATMENT PLANT ON THE PROPERTY. SO MOST PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS. AND I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN, IF THIS DOES GET RESCINDED, IT'S NOT ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS, BUT IT'S A PROCESS OF EDUCATION. JIM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, COUNCILMAN GLOVER? YEAH, MY MY QUESTION IS REALLY, UM, IS THIS MOTION A A GERMANE AT ALL? IS IT APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME? AND IF, UH, WE CAN GET SOME LEGAL ADVICE ON THE MOTION ITSELF, WHETHER IT'S GERMANE, WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE THIS TIME, I SURE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT. OKAY. UM, OUR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, UM, FOR QUESTIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU MR. HOLBERT. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, IF COUNSEL IS LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL LEGAL ADVICE TO WHAT YOU RECEIVED IN CAUCUS, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO RECEIVE A, UH, MOTION TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, PROVIDE WHATEVER LEGAL ADVICE YOU'RE SEEKING. UM, IF YOU DO IT OUT IN OPEN, THEN YOU WAIVE YOUR PRIVILEGE ON THAT TOPIC. AND I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND COUNSEL WAIVE THEIR PRIVILEGE OF, AS IT RELATES TO ROBERT'S RULES. WELL, AS I'D SAID, AS I'VE OPINED BEFORE, THE INTERPRETATION OF ROBERT'S RULES IS FOR COUNCIL TO DO, AND I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH COUNCIL DISCUSSING THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THAT AND COMING TO A CONSENSUS WITH A MAJORITY VOTE AS TO HOW THEY WANT TO INTERPRET ROBERT'S RULES FOR THE TWO HURDLES THAT I MENTIONED THAT WERE, THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY COUNSEL AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE MOTION WAS APPROPRIATE, UM, FOR THE TWO ISSUES, IF I MAY. OKAY. WAIT, LET ME, DO YOU WANT TO FINISH? UM, YOU, YOU SPEAKING AS A PARLIAMENTARIAN AT THIS TIME? YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. UM, AND ACTUALLY I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS ON PREVIOUS OCCASIONS. IF WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT ROBERT'S RULES, I THINK WE [01:20:01] NEED TO CALL A RECESS. AND IT MAY BE AT THAT TIME TO DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO GET LEGAL ADVICE, FURTHER LEGAL ADVICE. AND ROBERT'S RULES. YOU'D HAVE TO DO A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST. RIGHT? YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO NO, NO, NO. ALRIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS THEN? UM, MARK, COUNCIL MO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, AS, AS WE SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT THIS, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND TALKED ABOUT, BUT, BUT REALIZE THAT, UM, PINE ISLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO BE DEVELOPED. I, I SEE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE PROTECT PINE ISLAND AND SAVE PINE ISLAND. UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, A, A BUY RIGHT THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS. AND HE COULD GO RIGHT NOW AND DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AND PUT, I THINK IT'S 149 HOMES ON IT, UM, WITHOUT EVEN COMING TO US. JUST LIKE YOU HEARD, MS. BROWN WAS QUESTIONING HOW CAN THE, UM, WEDDING, UM, UH, UH, WEDDING RV PARK AND ALSO THEN THE RV PARK THAT THAT CAN GO THROUGH WITHOUT COMING DUST BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS DONE BY WHAT IS IN THE, THE, UM, UM, THE COMMUNITY PROTECTION OVERLAY AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THERE'S FOUR THINGS THAT, THAT THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING FOR THAT ARE NOT IN, UM, THE COMMUNITY. TWO THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY PROTECTION OVERLAY, THOSE TWO THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY PROTECTION OVERLAY IS THE GOLF COURSE, A REGULATED GOLF COURSE THAT'S, THAT'S IN THAT COMMUNITY PROTECTION OVERLAY. THE SECOND THING THAT HE'S ASKING FOR IS A GATE THAT IS, THAT IS FORBIDDEN BY THE COMMUNITY PROTECTION OVERLAY. AND THEN AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, THIS IS COUNTYWIDE, UM, HE'S, HE'S ASKING, UH, FOR A SETBACK THAT IS LARGER THAN 50, THAT IS LESS THAN THE 150 FEET THAT'S IN OUR, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE. HE'S ASKING FOR 50 FEET. AND THEN ALSO THE DENSITY ON THE ISLAND IS HIGHER THAN WHAT THAT ZONING ALLOWS. SO IF HE DIDN'T ASK FOR THOSE FOUR THINGS, THERE'S NOTHING WE COULD SIT HERE AND DO. HE, HE COULD GO IN THERE AND DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AND, AND BY, RIGHT, AGAIN, I, AGAIN, I'M I'M A PROPERTY RIGHTS PERSON. SO YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, OKAY, WHY, WHAT ARE WE HERE FOR? WHAT'S GOING ON? UM, I I DO THINK THAT THAT, UM, UH, MR. TROIANO, WE SHOULD HAVE GONE MORE IN THAT PROCESS AND LOOKED AT LEAST HAVING A SECOND READING AND A THIRD READING BEFORE WE, WE DENIED IT. HOWEVER, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT BY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT WE CANNOT DO THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT GO BACK. AND THIS IS NOT A RECONSIDER, WHICH WE'VE DONE BEFORE. THIS IS A RESCIND. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT, THAT LEGALLY WE CAN, UM, DO A RESCIND OF THIS. UM, AND I'LL SAY THIS LAST SAYING, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HE'S ACTUALLY PROPOSED, IF YOU TOOK THAT DEVELOPMENT AND SOMEONE OWNED 500 ACRES IN BLUFFTON, AND HE PROPOSED THAT I WOULD BE ALL FOR IT, UM, IF IT WAS ANY PLACE ON THE EAST COAST FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, SAINT SIMON'S ISLAND, YOU KNOW, UP, UP INTO TO, TO NEW YORK AND VIRGINIA, PEOPLE WILL BE ALL FOR IT. SAYING, LOOK, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL JOB WE DID. THEY'D STAND UP AND HIGH FIVE EACH OTHER AND SAY, HEY, LISTEN, THIS IS, THIS IS GREAT BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE LOWERED THE DENSITY. WE'VE DONE ALL THESE GREAT THINGS, BUT AGAIN, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT WE'VE GOT, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, THE, WHAT THE COMMUNITY PROTECTION OVERLAY IS THERE. SO AGAIN, UM, GOING BACK TO SAY, I, I WILL PROBABLY VOTE AGAINST THIS JUST 'CAUSE I DO NOT THINK, UM, THIS WAS THE PROPER USE OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER TO RESCIND A VOTE THAT WE VOTED ON, UM, SIX WEEKS AGO. OKAY. COUNCILMAN BROWN, I THINK YOU'RE NEXT. COUNCILMAN BROWN. I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY. OH, OKAY. AND ANYONE ELSE? YES, I WILL. COUNCILMAN . I TELL YOU WHAT Y'ALL, I'M, I'M SICK AND TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT THIS THING. YEAH, I THINK WE ALL ARE. BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, THERE'S BEEN AN OFFER ON THE TABLE. I GOT A MOTION RIGHT HERE THAT IF WE DO ENGAGE IN NEGOTIATIONS AGAIN, THAT ONE OF THE LITIGATIONS, ONE OF THE STATE, THE STATE LITIGATION CAN GO AWAY. AND I TELL YOU WHAT, I'M AN ATTORNEY. I'M ALWAYS OPEN FOR TALKING. THE LAST TIME I VOTED TO EVEN TALK TO THE MAN, I GOT ACCUSED OF TAKING BRIS. AND I TELL YOU THAT HURT. MM-HMM . I GET IT A LOT GOING ON. NO, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW. LOOK, NO COMMENTS IN THE AUDIENCE. GO AHEAD. BUT I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING MY FOOT IN ONE CAMP OR THE OTHER. I HAVE TO TRY TO LISTEN TO 17,000 PEOPLE AND, AND NOT JUST MY CONSTITUENTS. I TALK TO PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF MY DISTRICT TOO. SO YOU START ADDING THAT NUMBER UP. ONE OF THE MOST CONCERNING THINGS FOR ME AFTER THIS VOTE WAS TAKEN, I HAVE TALKED TO SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS IN THAT THING. AND I DO NOT WANNA MAKE SUCH AN IMPORTANT DECISION. I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT A CPO IS TO ST. HELL ISLAND. I DON'T KNOW IF I DO VOTE YES TO RESCIND THIS. I STILL DON'T KNOW IF IT CHANGES THE OUTCOME AT THE END. [01:25:01] BUT I'LL TELL YOU, IF I CAN SAVE THE TAXPAYER SOME MONEY TO GET RID OF SOME LITIGATION, I'M OPEN TO THAT OPTION TOO. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TOUGH DECISION FOR ME. AND THEY'RE IN THAT PACKET THAT HE PUT FORWARD. SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO ABOUT IT. IT WAS ADDRESSING SOME REAL NEEDS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED, THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO. AND IF I CAN MAKE THE LIFE OF PEOPLE HERE IN THIS COUNTY A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN MY SHORT TIME HERE IN OFFICE, I'M GONNA TRY TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN. AND I'M TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO LISTEN TO EVERYONE. AND IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN TOUGH, BUT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO OUR JOBS UP HERE. SO I THINK THAT'S IT. COUNCILMAN BOTH, ARE YOU? THANK YOU. UM, COUNCILMAN PASSID? DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO. OKAY. COUNCILMAN RES? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, UM, I FOLLOW WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN BAROLO, YOU JUST SAID, UM, WE LISTEN AND THIS COUNCIL HERE HAS LISTENED INTENTLY TO EVERYBODY. UM, AND, AND I THINK IT'S THIS COUNCIL THAT I, I THINK QUITE FRANKLY, LET THE PEOPLE DOWN BY NOT GOING THROUGH AND LISTENING TO THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH. I, I APPLAUD, I COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE, UH, CUNNINGHAM TO, YOU KNOW, TO BRING THIS UP AND, AND TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT WE NEVER HEARD ABOUT. NOW, THINK ABOUT THIS TO GO INTO WHAT, UM, THE HOUSING $3.47 MILLION TO BEAUFORT JASPER HOUSING. IS CLAUDE HICKS STILL HERE? YES. AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA, I CAN'T SINGLE YOU OUT, BUT I I'M SAYING THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT NOBODY HEARD OF. AND I'M HERE, I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE. I LISTEN. THE ONLY WAY I DO MY JOB IS TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND YOU KNOW THAT. AND, UM, I APPLAUD MY COLLEAGUES FOR THINKING ABOUT THIS AND GETTING THIS BACK TO YOU. SO I APPRECIATE THAT CHAIRWOMAN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I HAVE COMMENTS FROM, UM, VICE CHAIRMAN TABER. SO, UM, ANYBODY KNOWS ME KNOWS I'M A LAW AND ORDER KIND OF GIRL, PERIOD. I BELIEVE IN THE LAW. I BELIEVE IN FOLLOWING THE RULES. I THINK IT'S REALLY A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT TO RESCIND A VOTE. AND WE HAD ADEQUATE, WE HAD ADEQUATE INFORMATION. WE ALL WERE TOLD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION WE HAD THE INFORMATION. I MADE AN EDUCATED VOTE THAT I'M NOT WILLING TO RESCIND. SO I MADE THAT VOTE BASED ON KNOWLEDGE I HAD, AND IT HASN'T CHANGED FOR TODAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANYONE ON COUNCIL? YES. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM? UM, YEAH, IF I CAN GIVE MY OPINION ON ONE LAST THING FOR MY SECOND REBUTTAL, THEN IF I COULD ASK THE PARLIAMENTARIAN QUESTION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED WAS, IS IT ALLOWED BY ROBERT RULES? UH, THE DISAGREEMENT THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AMONGST COUNSEL IS, IS A DENIAL, AN ACTION. LEGALLY A DENIAL IS AN ACTION BY LAW. THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO TAKE THE VOTE TO MAKE A DENIAL. 'CAUSE IF NOT, IT COULD HAVE CAME RIGHT BACK UP WITHOUT THE VOTE, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH CHERRY POINT A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO. WE HAVE, WE DID NOT APPROVE IT, AND IT FAILED IN THE APPROVAL, BUT WE NEVER TOOK AN ACTION TO DENY IT. SO IT WAS ABLE TO COME BACK UP AND WE HAD TO DO THAT AGAIN. SO THIS COUNSEL UP HERE KNOWS THAT THAT IS A FACT. OUR LAW, OUR LAWYERS KNOW THAT THAT PART IS A FACT BECAUSE WE'VE PUT PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN. SO THE 11 OF US UP HERE ARE AWARE THAT THAT MOTION TAKEN, THAT WAS PUT BY MR. MCKELLEN AS A DENIAL, IS A FORM OF AN ACTION WHICH DOES SET SOMETHING IN ACTION, INCLUDING THE TIMEFRAMES THAT OTHER PEOPLE ADDRESSED AND THE PUBLIC THAT IS AN ACTION. UM, IF THE PARLIAMENT PARLIAMENTARIAN COULD COMMENT ON IF THIS JUSTIFIES FOR ROBERT'S RULES AS WELL, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY TAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE ANYTHING TODAY, BUT JUST A ASCENSION IF IT IS ALLOWED. WELL, I THINK THE UNDERLYING QUESTION WAS, WAS ASCENSION ITSELF APPLICABLE HERE? AND I, I THINK IT IS APPLICABLE HERE. AND YOU DID THE PROPER NOTICE. UH, WE GOT ALSO, NOT JUST MY OPINION, BUT WE GOT OTHER OPINIONS THAT IT, IS IT APPLICABLE HERE AND LEGAL TO DO. AND YOUR PUBLIC NOTIFICATION DID LOWER THE THRESHOLD DOWN TO SIX RATHER THAN EIGHT SINCE THERE WAS NOTICE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ON AN AGENDA TODAY. UM, YOU DID GIVE PROPER NOTICE, BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT I, THE REASON WE MADE THAT, THAT MOTION WAS BECAUSE IT, IT IS A FINAL ACTION. AND SO RESCINDING THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN ADDRESSING THE, UH, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT HERE, WE'RE ONLY ADDRESSING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. OKAY. AND I WOULD, JIM, YES. JUST LIKE YOU SAY SOMETHING AND THEN I I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. SURE. I I'M GLAD TO, UM, IF YOU WANNA [01:30:01] YIELD, MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. UM, BUT NO, YOU, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A SECOND. LET SECOND, LET, LET ME, UM, EVERYONE HAS TWO TIMES TO SPEAK. IT'S ALMOST A, A, A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AT THIS TIME AS I EXPRESS, UM, SOME FEELINGS I HAVE. UM, I, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT I MET, UM, EL VO SOME YEARS AGO, UM, PROBABLY 22. AND, UM, EL VO SAID TO ME, HE HAD THIS PROPOSAL THAT, UM, HE WANTS TO BRING ON ST. ST. HELENA. AND HE TALKS ABOUT THE ST. HELENA V AND I HEARD ABOUT ST. HENA V BUT I NEVER KNEW WHERE ST. LENVILLE ACTUALLY WAS. UM, AND SO I EVEN HAD, UM, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND VISIT, UM, THE ISLAND. AND WHEN I GOT THERE, I REALIZED THAT I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE BECAUSE ESPY WRIGHT FARMED THAT LAND YEARS AGO. SO I'VE BEEN ON ST. HENA VILLE, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS ACTUALLY ST. HELENA VILLE. BUT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY, UH, PUBLICLY THAT, UM, VEO, WHEN WE FIRST TALKED, HE TALKED ABOUT MONEY. AND, UH, HE'S NEVER STOPPED TALKING ABOUT MONEY AND WHAT HE COULD DO. AND I SAID TO LVO AT THAT TIME, AFTER SIX OR SEVEN TIME, HE MENTIONED MONEY TO ME. I SAID TO LVO, UM, LET'S TAKE MONEY OFF THE TABLE. IF THIS PROJECT WILL GO, IT GOES ON ITS OWN MERIT. AND THEN WE CAN TALK MONEY. THE COMMUNITY HAS BASICALLY EXPRESSED DARE DISPLEASURE WITH THE GOLF COURSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF THE COMP PLAN. SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY, AND I STAND WITH MY COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST COMMENTS. I I HAVE LOOKED, I HAD, I HAVE ALWAYS READ EVERYTHING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AND MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UH, AS OUR ATTORNEY KNOWS, I HAD PAGES OF COMMENTS ON THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN THE SECOND ONE. AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE EFFORTS THAT WERE PUT BY BOTH OUR STAFF AND THE DEVELOPER IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UM, BUT I, I VOTED AND I VOTED THE WAY I THOUGHT IT SHOULD GO. I THINK IT SETS A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR OUR COUNTY TO RESCIND A VOTE WHO CAN TRUST US IF WE RESCIND VOTES? AND IT WAS THE FIRST TIME, BUT WE ALL VOTED. THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO SAY, I LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OF MOSSY OAKS. SHELL POINT, PORT ROYAL. I HAVE HEARD FROM SO MANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER GENERATION. WE HEARD MAYOR MURRAY SPOKE, UM, HIS GENERATION. PEOPLE WHO HAVE GROWN UP IN MY DISTRICT DO NOT WANNA SEE THE CPO DONE AWAY WITH. THEY'RE MY CONSTITUENTS. THAT'S WHO I'M LISTENING TO. AND, UH, THEY DON'T LIVE ON ST. HELENA, BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF THE CPO. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE READY. QUESTION. WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION. GO AHEAD. RESTATE THE MOTION. WE'LL RESTATE THE MOTION. CAN YOU RESTATE IT? YES, MA'AM. MS. MR. CUNNINGHAM. YEP. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NOTICE GIVEN AT THE LAST MEETING, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL CIND, THE VOTE OF COUNCIL TOOK ON AGENDA ITEM 13 C OF THE SEPTEMBER, 2022, SEPTEMBER 22ND, 2025 AGENDA, WHICH WAS DISAPPROVE ORDINANCE 20 25 44, TO AUTHORIZE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND PINE ISLAND PROPERTY HOLDINGS. LLC. COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PASSMAN. COUNCILMAN PASSMAN. SORRY. WOULDN'T, UH, COME ON. I AM A NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. REEDS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW? YES. VICE CHAIR. TAVERNA. NO. CHAIR HOWARD? NO. THE MOTION FAILS. QUIET. AND THE POLICE QUIET. ALRIGHT. AT THIS, AT THIS TIME, IF ANYONE, UM, WANTS TO STAY FOR OR WANTS TO LEAVE, WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET OUTTA THE ROOM IF YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO. UH, NUMBER 10 ON OUR AGENDA IS DISCUSSION CONCERNING A REQUEST BY COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER TO ADDRESS WHETHER SIGNS SHOULD BE PLACED. [01:35:01] WAIT A SECOND. CHAIR OR GAVEL, PLEASE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. LET'S CLEAR. IF ANYONE WANTS TO LEAVE, GO AHEAD AND CLEAR THE ROOM IF YOU'RE READY TO GO. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. I KNOW BRIAN . THANK YOU FOR COMING. UM, TO SEE OUR NEW FACILITY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION. . MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYBODY. YEAH. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. Y'ALL CAN TALK IN THE HALLWAY, BUT YES, PLEASE. LET'S, WE GOTTA GO ON. LET'S CLEAR OUT IF WE CAN. YES, SIR. LET'S CLEARING OUT. CAN I ASK COUNSEL TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND PAST EIGHT O'CLOCK? YES. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO EXTEND PAST EIGHT O'CLOCK. ARE WE MAKING OKAY. ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND, EXTEND. I'LL SECOND PAST EIGHT O'CLOCK. I'LL SECOND IT. I SECOND. YEAH. ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGN OF HANDS. OH, WE GOT A LOT TO GO. WE GOT A LOT TO GO. AND WE NEED TO GET OUT BY NONE. . YES. WE'RE AT NINE O'CLOCK. WE ALL TURNED INTO SOMETHING. PUMPKINS CHRISTMAS TREES THIS YEAR. CHRISTMAS TREES. ABOUT [10.a. Discussion concerning a request by a County Council member to address whether signs should be place at the entryway of certain county-owned buildings to inform the public that firearms and concealable firearms are prohibited in public buildings.] CHRISTMAS TREES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. 10. A DISCUSSION CONCERNING A REQUEST BY COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBER TO ADDRESS WHETHER SIGNS SHOULD BE PLACED AT THE ENTRYWAY OF CERTAIN COUNTY OWNED BUILDINGS TO INFORM THE PUBLIC THAT FIREARMS AND CO CONCEALABLE FIREARMS ARE PROHIBITED IN PUBLIC BUILDINGS. MADAM, MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU WANT IT FOR DISCUSSION OR YOU WANT A MOTION? IT'S DISCUSSION. IT'S LISTED. OKAY. YEAH. AND, UM, OUR ATTORNEY, MR. HOLBERT, WILL DISCUSS. YES, YOUR, WAS THERE A MOTION? SORRY. OH, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO DISCUSS TOO? DON'T WE? A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION. I THOUGHT. DO WE? WELL, NOT FOR DISCUSSION. I'M A BELIEVER THAT YOU DO. BUT SEVERAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED IT FOR DISCUSSION. I RAISED THAT AT THE SOUTH CAROLINA ATTORNEY'S, UH, COUNCIL MEETING, MUNICIPAL ATTORNEY'S COUNCIL MEETING, UH, LAST WEEK THAT I ATTENDED. OKAY. AND MOST BELIEVE THAT YOU NEED IT, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT DON'T DO IT FOR DISCUSSION ITEMS. BUT I WILL NOTE THAT I'M GONNA ASK FOR AT LEAST GUIDANCE, IF NOT A MOTION COMING OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION. OKAY. SO COUNCILMAN GLOVER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO DISCUSSION? TO GO INTO DISCUSSION? OKAY. ILL MAKE MOTION TO BRING ON FLOOR, GO INTO DISCUSSION, ALL THIS. ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT? I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK COUNCILMAN LAWSON SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF DISCUSSION. SIGN SIGNIFY BY WE HAVE ONE, NO. YES. OH, I'M SORRY. NO, EVERYBODY'S A YES. EVERYBODY'S A YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE'RE IN DISCUSSION. RECALL COMMITTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT AN INCIDENT THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN GLOVER BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND ASKED THAT WE BRING IT TO A, UH, COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND COUNCIL DISCUSSION RELATED TO SOMEONE BRINGING A FIREARM TO SCOTT RECREATION CENTER. SO HE WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WAS A VIOLATION OF THE LAW, UH, OR WHAT WE COULD DO ABOUT THAT. OH, KEEP IT. AND, UH, WE DISCUSSED THE LAWS THAT ARE APPLICABLE. AND SOUTH CAROLINA HAS STATUTES THAT PROHIBIT BRINGING A WEAPON ONTO SCHOOL PROPERTY OR INTO SCHOOL BUILDINGS. BUT IN THAT STATUTE FOR THAT, IT ALSO MENTIONS PUBLIC BUILDINGS. SO BRINGING A FIREARM INTO A PUBLIC BUILDING IS PROHIBITED UNDER THE STATUTE PROHIBITING WEAPONS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY. ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A, UH, A STATUTE THAT PROHIBITS BRINGING A CONCEALABLE WEAPON INTO A PUBLIC BUILDING. IF YOU POST A SIGN ON THAT BUILDING, ALERTING THE PUBLIC, UH, THAT CONCEALABLE WEAPONS, WHETHER IT'S CONCEALED OR NOT, ARE PROHIBITED FROM COMING IN THAT BUILDING. BUT YOU CAN ONLY VIOLATE THAT STATUTE AND IT'S ONLY GONNA BE ENFORCED BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IF YOU HAVE THAT SIGN THAT'S, UH, GOVERNED BY STATUTE AT THE ENTRYWAY TO THOSE BUILDINGS. SO COUNCIL DISCUSSED WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATOR TO PLACE THOSE SIGNS ON PUBLIC BUILDINGS. AND IT WAS A MIXED VOTE AS FAR AS WHICH WAY THE COMMITTEE'S GONNA GO. SO WE DECIDED TO BRING IT UP TO COUNCIL AND HAVE A FULL COUNCIL DISCUSSION AS FAR AS THE GUIDANCE TO THE ADMINISTRATOR, AS TO DOES COUNCIL WANT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO PLACE SIGNS AT ALL COUNTY BUILDINGS OR SOME COUNTY BUILDINGS STAFF ME. I'M RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL, UH, REQUEST THE ADMINISTRATOR TO PLACE THOSE SIGNS PROHIBITING CONCEALABLE WEAPONS, AT LEAST AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDINGS WHERE THE GOVERNMENT, WHERE THE PEOPLE COME IN TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE GOVERNMENT, SUCH AS THIS BUILDING ARE COURTHOUSES, WHICH ARE GOVERNED BY DIFFERENT STATUTE AND THEY PUT SIGNS UP AND THEY'RE PROHIBITED TO COURTHOUSES, BUT ALSO PUBLIC LIBRARIES IN PLACES SUCH LIKE THAT. SO, ANYWHERE WHERE COUNCIL THINKS THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE INFORMED, AND IT'S LIKELY THAT THEY MIGHT BRING A WEAPON INTO A PUBLIC BUILDING, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU DIRECT THE ADMINISTRATOR TO PLACE THOSE SIGNS TO WARN THE PUBLIC WEAPONS AREN'T ALLOWED HERE TO KEEP THE STAFF AND THE PUBLIC, UH, SAFE QUESTION. YES. OH, I, I DO AGREE WITH THAT. AND BY THE WAY, I KNOW BLUFFTON LIBRARY ALREADY HAS THIS SIGN AS I'M GUESSING MY OTHER LIBRARIES DO. UM, SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING IT IN BUILDINGS WHERE THE PUBLIC GOES IN. YOU GONNA COMMENT? COUNCIL GLOVER AND I, [01:40:01] I, UH, APPRECIATE THAT AND I SUPPORT THAT. UM, PARTICULARLY, UM, IN AREAS THAT ARE RURAL PARTICULARLY, WELL, FIRST WHILE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE TYPE OF PUBLIC BUILDING THAT I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT I DIDN'T ARE ARE RECREATION CENTERS. YES. WE WANT TO PUT A SIGN UP. YOU CAN'T BRING A WEAPON TO OUR RECREATION CENTERS. YES. UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT A RURAL COMMUNITY IS THAT, UH, HUNTING TAKES PLACE ALL THE TIME. UM, SO WE ARE NOT RESTRICTING THAT FROM HAPPENING, BUT COMING ON PREMISES IN PARTICULAR, UM, WHERE STUDENTS, CHILDREN ARE, WHERE SENIORS ARE, I THINK WE NEED TO BASICALLY PUT SOME TYPE OF NOTICE THAT GUNS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THESE AREAS. THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED IN THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN HAVING THEM. I UNDERSTAND THAT. ON THE PROPERTY. YES. LIKE AT A SCHOOL, IF YOU'VE GOT IT LOCKED IN YOUR CAR, THAT COULD BE PERMISSIBLE. ALRIGHT. SO IT'S PROTECTED. IT'S SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT. WELL, LEMME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION THEN, BRIAN. UM, UM, IF, IF I CAME AT A PUBLIC BUILDING AREA, I'M IN THE PARKING LOT, CAN I PULL THAT GUN OUT? YOU, YES. IF YOU'RE ON THE PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE BUILDING, YOU COULD PULL THE GUN OUT. YOU COULD HAVE THE GUN IN YOUR POSSESSION. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. YOU CAN'T PRESENT IT TO SOMEBODY, POINT IT AT ANYBODY. THAT'S A VIOLATION OF LAW. THAT'S A DIFFERENT STATUTE. BUT NOTHING PROHIBITS YOU FROM HAVING A WEAPON ON PUBLIC PROPERTY LIKE A PARK OR OUT IN THE PARKING LOT HERE AT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. IT'S JUST, YOU CAN'T BRING IT INTO THE BUILDING. OKAY. WELL THAT'S, THAT'S THE STATE LAW. I'LL ACCEPT. I'LL ACCEPT, UM, PUTTING THE SIGNS UP AT THE PUBLIC LOCATION AS A START. THANK YOU. TEACHER RACE TO THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS? YEAH, I, I, UH, I, I SUPPORT, UH, COUNCILMAN GLOVER, UM, INITIATIVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THESE SIGNS PLACED AT OUR, UH, RURAL RECREATION CENTERS AS WELL BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE RURAL AND DISTANT FROM THE, UH, MUNICIPALITIES IN THE, IN THE CITY HAVE ANY COMMUNITY EVENT, A LARGE GATHERING OF PEOPLE. THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, WEAPONS BEING PRESENT NOW. AND I REALIZE WE'RE SAYING THAT WE ARE PLACING THE SIGN NOT TO BRING THE WEAPON INTO THE BUILDING, BUT, UM, UH, WE, WE CAN GO WITH THAT TO START WITH. BUT, UH, NOT BRINGING IT ON GOVERNMENT PROPERTY. THE GOVERNMENT OWNED THE PROPERTY AND AS YOU SAID, WE CAN BRING IT IN THE PARKING LOT. WE JUST CAN'T BRING IT IN THE BUILDING. SO, UH, I I I GOT THAT. I GOT THAT. OKAY. NOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE STATE STATUTES THAT HAVE THOSE PROHIBITIONS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE COUNTY CAN'T PASS AN ORDINANCE PROHIBITING THE WEAPONS ON THE PUBLIC PROPERTY. AND WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION AS WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE, PROHIBIT IT ON LIKE RECREATIONAL PROPERTY IN OUR PARKS, PLACES LIKE THAT. BUT THE STATE STATUTE DOESN'T, UH, PROHIBIT THAT. AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT, BECAUSE THE STATE DOESN'T PROHIBIT IT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN EXERCISE OUR OWN POLICE POWERS AND PUT AN ORDINANCE IN TO PROHIBIT THAT? WE COULD LOOK AT THAT IF COUNSEL DIRECTED THAT. WELL, I, I'D LIKE FOR US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. OKAY. IS IT FORCIBLE? WE CAN'T HAVE IT WITHOUT THE SHERIFF. WELL, YOU'D HAVE TO GET THE SHERIFF TO ENFORCE IT. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S ENFORCEMENT. UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, GET THEIR INTERPRETATION, AND WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STATE LAW AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE STATE HAS PREEMPTED US FROM PASSING THAT ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY'VE ONLY LIMITED IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. UH, 'CAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS A BIG RIGHT. THAT'S, UH, YOU EITHER FORWARD OR AGAINST IT. UH, AND, AND, AND DO YOU CONSIDER, UM, A QUOTE UNQUOTE STADIUM A BUILDING IF IT'S NOT GOT A RIFF OVER IT? UM, IT DOESN'T. THAT WOULD BE AN ARGUMENT THAT YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE. IS IT A CASE THAT I WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE IN THERE? IT WOULD DEPEND UPON THE WORDING OF THE STATUTE AS TO WHETHER IT SAYS STRUCTURE OR BUILDING. IF IT SAYS A BUILDING, PROBABLY NOT. UH, IF IT'S, IT IS A STRUCTURE FOR SURE, BUT IT'S NOT A BUILDING 'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A ROOF OVER IT UNLESS IT'S A DOME. IF IT'S A DOME AND IF IT'S PUBLICLY OWNED, THAT'S DIFFERENT. I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOT ANY SUCH BUILDING. NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT. NO . OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, SO AT, AT THIS TIME, DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR, WE HAVE ANOTHER COMING. OH, I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM. 'CAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT AS TO WHETHER THAT SIGNS WERE APPROPRIATE. YEAH, I MEAN I, I'LL BE HONEST, I WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WAS DISAGREEING WITH IT BECAUSE NOBODY CAN TELL ME HOW WE'RE GONNA ENFORCE IT. NOBODY CAN TELL ME HOW WE'RE GONNA ENFORCE IT. OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS, LIKE IF YOU GO NEXT DOOR AT THE ARTHUR HORN BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE METAL DETECTOR. TODAY YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH A METAL DETECTOR. BUT IF WE'RE NOT GONNA ENSURE TO OUR STAFF DAY IN AND DAY OUT, LIKE A SCHOOL SYSTEM DOES THAT, YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH THE WHOLE SYSTEM TO GET THROUGH THE BUILDING WHERE THEY HAVE A NO WEAPONS POLICY. THAT'S WHERE I HAVE THE GRAY AREA. THEN ALSO, I'M NOT GONNA LIE, IT SCARES ME THAT TWO PEOPLE JUST SAID TO START WITH, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING. SO TO START WITH THIS, A SIGN ON A DOOR, THEN IT'S THE PUBLIC AREAS AND THEN SO ON AND SO ON. BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BREAK THE LAW ARE GONNA BREAK [01:45:01] THE LAW. THERE'S THE REASONS, STATISTICALLY THE MOST ISSUES YOU HAVE AT A PLACE OR PLACES THAT ARE ALREADY GUN-FREE ZONES, UM, I I, IT'S JUST A FACT. STATISTICALLY, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT SAYING I HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWER. UM, BUT TO ME, IT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. IF WE'RE GONNA PUT THESE SIGNS UP, YOU CAN WALK FREELY INTO THAT DOOR. RIGHT NOW, IF THIS MEETING WASN'T GOING ON, THESE GENTLEMEN IN THIS BACK CORNER WOULDN'T BE HERE. SO TO ME, THAT PUTS THE REST OF OUR STAFF AT RISK, WHICH IT'S NOT A RISK I'M WILLING TO PUT MY NAME ON FOR THEM. SO, I MEAN, IF IT'S LIKE THE ARTHUR HORN BUILDING WHERE YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH SECURITY, ALRIGHT, THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. BUT, AND UP AT A RECREATION CENTER OR SO ON AND SO ON. WELL, IF THEY'RE KIDS, THEY LEGALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE THE GUN ANYWAYS. SO THEY'RE ALREADY BREAKING THE LAW. IF THEY'RE ADULTS LEGALLY, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CARRY. UM, SO IT, IT, IT'S WHERE, WHERE YOU GET INTO THAT, IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT I CAN CARRY IT IN MY CAR AND I CAN JUST LEAVE IT IN MY CAR, THEN NOTHING'S GONNA STOP ME FROM GONNA IN MY CAR AND GOING BACK IN THAT BUILDING, NOBODY ELSE KNOWING THAT NOBODY ELSE IN THAT BUILDING HAS ONE SINCE ME. IT'S, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE IF WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE IT. AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T. UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I RUN INTO A PROBLEM. I KNOW WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS AT THE, UH, COMMITTEE LEVEL AS WELL, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE SOME GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS IN OUR MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE THAT HAVE SECURITY. YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SECURITY, UH, THE METAL DETECTORS TO GET INTO THAT PUBLIC BUILDING. YEAH. MOUNT PLEASANT'S ONE. YEP. UM, I BELIEVE I WAS TOLD, WE INVESTIGATED THIS WHERE I LIVE. I WAS TOLD THAT IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT IN YOUR OUTSIDE AREAS, LET'S PRETEND THE TENNIS COURTS, THEY HAVE TO BE FOUR FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT SIGNS AND OUR DEPUTIES CAN LET US KNOW. THEY HAVE TO BE BIG, GIANT SIGNS AND THEY HAVE TO BE AT EVERY ENTRANCE. YOU DON'T GET TO JUST PUT ONE AND HOPE EVERYBODY SEES IT. SO THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN DOORS. AND I BELIEVE I WAS ALSO TOLD, IF YOU DON'T PUT THIS SIGN, IF YOU DON'T PUT THE SIGN ON THE DOOR, SOMEBODY COULD COME IN, HAVE THEIR, YOU KNOW, WEAPON OR WHATEVER AND THE SHERIFF WON'T RESPOND BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T TELL HIM NOT TO DO IT. THE SIGN'S NOT POSTED. HE'S NOT GONNA ENFORCE THE STATUTE 'CAUSE CORRECT. THE STATUTE REQUIRES A SIGN TO BE POSTED AT EACH ENTRYWAY. CORRECT? YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN LAWSON, AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY A DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS AND I REMEMBER GROWING UP THAT MY FATHER ALWAYS SAID THAT ONLY LOCKS IN YOUR DOOR IS KEEP OUT. THE HONEST PEOPLE . AND THAT'S THE SAME THING THAT, THAT WE HAVE HERE IS OBVIOUSLY YOU PUT A SIGN UP, THE HONEST PERSON'S NOT GONNA CARRY THEIR, THEIR THEIR GUN IN. BUT SOMEONE THAT'S NOT HONEST IS WE'RE NOT STOPPING THEM. I I I, I MADE THIS COMMENT LAST TIME A COMMITTEE WAS THE FACT THAT YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC, UM, UH, GROCERY STORES IN FLORIDA, THEY JUST MADE ALL THEIR GROCERY STORES OPEN CARRY BECAUSE THEY, THEY DID RESEARCH AND FOUND THAT PEOPLE FELT SAFER AND IT WAS SAFER TO HAVE PEOPLE OPEN CARRY. SO THAT'S JUST, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST DISCUSSION, BUT THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW. ON, ON, ON EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S A FLIP SIDE OF THE COIN. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. FOOD LINE. THE FOOD LINE IN HAMPTON, IT'S OPEN CARRY. , PUBLIX IN BLUFFTON, IT'S OPEN CARRY. I THINK ALL PUBLIX JUST WENT OPEN CARRY IN SOUTH CAROLINA. OKAY. COUNCILMAN, NO PROBLEM. HOW, HOW DOES THE CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY, UM, THAT WAS PASSED AT THE STATE LEVEL PLAY IN ALL THIS? IT'S DISCUSSED IN THAT STATUTE THAT THAT'S WHY IT SAYS CONCEALABLE OR NOT CONCEALABLE. AND IT SAYS REGARDLESS OF THE, UH, OPEN CARRY LAW. OKAY. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT? UH, WHERE DO WE, WHERE DO WE GO? MAKE A MOTION TO POST THE SIGNS IF YOU WANT. IF COUNCIL GLOVER, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO. OH, I'D BE GLAD TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE PUT SIGNS ON ALL OUR PUBLIC BUILDINGS. ALL PUBLIC BUILDINGS OR JUST CERTAIN PUBLIC BUILDINGS SUCH AS WHERE THE PUBLIC COMES IN FOR BUSINESS OR RECREATION. THAT'S PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE. YES. YES. BECAUSE WE, THERE ARE SOME BUILDINGS THAT THE PUBLIC DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO. RIGHT. SO YES. UM, RECREATION AND PUBLIC ACCESS BUILDINGS, PUBLIC BUSINESS OR RECREATION. YEAH. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. SECOND. MY COUNCILMAN DAWSON, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT MOTION? YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, LET'S SAY IT SHUT OUT OF PUBLIC WORKS OR PUBLIC WORKS OR GSN HOME. OKAY. OR BIV. WE'VE GOT THOSE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, UH, WITH JUST STAFF THAT ARE OUT THERE. OH, COUNCILMAN PASSMAN HAS A COMMENT. YEAH, I I I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE STATE STATUTE OF EXACTLY, YES. YES. THE SIZE OF THE SIGNED OPERATION. ALL OF THOSE, YES SIR. AND THEN WE, WE SHOULD HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS WHERE THE PUBLIC MAY COME. BECAUSE BY THE WAY, MAYBE YOU'RE NOT THINKING THAT, BUT I'M THINKING, YES, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. UM, AND FIRE STATION. WELL, THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNTY OWNS THE FIRE BUILDING OR DOES [01:50:01] THE FIRE DISTRICT OWN THE FIRE BUILDING? OBVIOUSLY. SO IT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS THAT THE COUNTY OWNS, UH, WHETHER IT'S IN RURAL COUNTY OR IN MUNICIPALITY. 'CAUSE WE DO OWN BUILDINGS IN MUNICIPALITY, JUST LIKE THIS ONE. YEAH. SO YOU JUST HAVE YES, SIR. OKAY. ANOTHER COMMENT. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM. JUST QUESTION OUR, I WAS UNAWARE THAT WE WERE TAKING, UH, VOTES ON DISCUSSION ITEMS. WOULDN'T IT TAKE A SUPER MAJORITY FOR THIS TO PASS THEN? IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM. WELL, IT IS AGENDA ITEM. IT'S JUST LISTED AS DISCUSSION RATHER THAN AN ACTION ITEM. UH, SO THAT'S A MATTER OF HOW COUNCIL AGAIN, WANTS TO INTERPRET DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND MY EXPERIENCE THROUGH MY YEARS OF GOVERNMENT HAVE BEEN THAT YOU COULD TAKE A VOTE THROUGH DISCUSSION. BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UH, SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE OPINION THAT YOU DON'T VOTE ON DISCUSSION ITEMS. JUST LIKE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T BELIEVE A VOTE IS NECESSARY TO BRING EVERYTHING TO THE FLOOR. BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TRAINED THROUGH PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE THAT ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA THAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO THE FLOOR OF A DISCUSSION REQUIRES A VOTE. ALL ITEMS REQUIRE A VOTE FOR. UH, SO DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OR REGULAR MAJORITY COUNCIL? YEAH, I THINK JUST A REGULAR VOTE. I MEAN, WE, WE ACTUALLY DID IT TWICE TODAY. YEAH. UM, TO WHERE YOU MADE A MOTION. ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION FROM THE FLOOR, RIGHT. RIGHT NOW. AND IT IS GERMANE TO THE TOPIC AT HAND. SO I THINK IT'S OKAY, BUT NOT JUST THAT, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY AN AGENDA ITEM, WHEREAS YOURS WASN'T. OKAY. BUT HERS GOT A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. YEAH. WELL, BUT IT WAS ON THE REQUIRED MAJORITY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSION. EVERYBODY AGREES THAT IT'S JUST FOR THE PLACES WHERE PUBLIC BUSINESS AND RECREATION TAKE PLACE, RIGHT? COUNTY OWNED BUILDINGS. YES. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL? VOTE YES, PLEASE. YES. ALRIGHT, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO REITERATE, YOU SAID PUBLIC BUSINESS AND RECREATION AND WE WILL BE GETTING A LIST OF COUNTY OWNED, COUNTY OWNED BUILDINGS THAT THAT APPLIES TO, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. CAN I MAKE ONE FUNNEL COMMENT BEFOREHAND? NO. WELL, HE SAID SOMETHING TWICE. I'LL SAY DRUMMOND, GO AHEAD. WE NEED TO GET OUTTA HERE. I'M JUST SAYING WE ARE, WE'RE TAKING A VOTE ON ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS, UH, AMENDMENTS THAT THE CONSTITUTION AS A DISCUSSION ITEM WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT VOTE TODAY. THE SECOND AMENDMENT. IT'S A STATE, LISTEN, THIS, I'M JUST, JUST SAYING IT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT APPLIES TO SECOND AMENDMENT. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE ON WITHOUT GIVING A PUBLIC NOTICE OF ANYTHING. JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. IT'S A STATE LAW. OKAY. IT'S STATE LAW. OKAY. A ROLL CALL VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER REEDS. MS. BROCK, CAN I ABSTAIN AT THIS POINT? YES SIR, YOU CAN. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PASSMAN? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW? NO. VICE CHAIR TABER? YES. CHAIR HOWARD? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. FIVE FOUR WITH ONE ABSTENTION. ONE ABSTENTION. OKAY. [11. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA] ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA A, A LONG CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 11. I HOPE ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS READ THROUGH THOSE, THEIR APPOINTMENTS, THINGS FROM COMMITTEES. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS SUBMITTED? I MOTION. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BROWN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DAWSON. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA BY SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT IS THE END OF THE [12.a. Approval of the 2026 County Council Meeting Schedule] CONSENT AGENDA. THE NEXT ONE IS NUMBER 12, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE 2026 COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULE. AND, UM, I HAD SENT OUT INFORMATION REGARDING THAT. THERE'S TWO ALTERNATIVES FOR IT. AND, UM, WE HAD SOME BACKUP INFORMATION FROM, UM, STAFF ABOUT COSTS FOR THE TWO ALTERNATIVES. WE HAD. ALTERNATIVE A AND ALTERNATIVE B. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2026 COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING. SCHEDULE B AS IN BOY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THAT WOULD BE THE MEETINGS. UM, ONCE A MONTH. ALL DO WE HAVE A DISCUSS? I'M SORRY. CAN WE DO A SECOND? I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. IN A SECOND. BY COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM. AND NOW I HAVE DISCUSSION. I NEED DISCUSSION. SO I'LL EXPLAIN WHY I WENT WITH ITEM B. I UNDERSTAND THE COST. I GET THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT SCHEDULE A AND YOU LOOK AT SCHEDULE B, WE HAVE 21 COUNCIL MEETINGS IN 2026. IF YOU TAKE SCHEDULE A, THERE WILL ONLY BE TWO MEETINGS OUT OF THE 21 ON HILTON HEAD AND ONLY TWO [01:55:01] IN BLUFFTON. THE OTHERS ARE ALL RIGHT HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT SCHEDULE B, WHICH IS WHAT MY MOTION IS, YOU'LL HAVE ONE PER MONTH SOUTH OF THE BROAD. SO THERE'LL BE FIVE AT HILTON HEAD AND FIVE AT BLUFFTON. AND ALL COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE STILL HERE. THAT DOESN'T CHANGE. BUT I BELIEVE, UM, RESIDENTS OUT OF THE BROAD, THEY'VE ENJOYED US BEING THE TRAVELING GROUP AND I THINK WE OWE IT TO THEM TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S MY MOTION FOR SCHEDULE B. UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, COUNCILMAN BROWN? YEAH, I DO HAVE COMMENTS. I FEEL THAT THE TAXPAYER JUST PAID FOR BRAND NEW RENOVATIONS IN THIS BUILDING. AND THIS IS OUR HOME. THIS IS OUR OFFICE AND THIS IS WHERE WE SHOULD COME TO WORK EVERY DAY, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING. WE SHOULDN'T BE ON THE ROAD BECAUSE I'VE HAD NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS FROM MY CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE, IT, IT MOVING TO THE BUTTON LIBRARY OR THE BUCK WATER REC CENTER OR WHEREVER WE'RE WE'RE GOING. UM, THEY DON'T LIKE IT AND I DON'T LIKE IT. I THINK WE SHOULD STAY RIGHT HERE IN OUR HOME AND NOT GO ANYWHERE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCIL GLOVER? SURE. I I AGREE WITH, UM, BOTH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS , UM, SO YOU CAN'T GRAB, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD SAY THIS, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WITH ME. UM, I LIKE GOING TO DIFFERENT AREAS. UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THE, THE, UM, STAFF REALLY NEEDS TO WORK ON THE ACOUSTIC AND THE SOUND SYSTEM. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE ARE AT A MEETING, UM, WE ACTUALLY NEED A, A, UM, MICRO, NOT A MICROPHONE, BUT A SPEAKER FACING COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HEAR ONE ANOTHER. 'CAUSE SOMETIME I DON'T HEAR THAT WELL AND STUFF, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST WANNA MAKE THAT COMMENT. BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHICH VOTE WE TAKE. WE'RE WE'RE GONNA VOTE. SO , WE GOTTA VOTE. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN DAWSON? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. I, I AGREE WITH, UH, MS. BROWN. UM, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON, THE CITY OF BEAUFORT IS THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY, AND WE SHOULD HOLD ALL OF OUR MEETINGS IN THE, IN THE CITY OF THE, OF BEAUFORT. AND THEN WE TAKE THE LIBERTY TO HOLD A MEETING OR TWO MEETINGS, UH, OVER IN HILTON HEAD AND TO, IN BLUFFTON, THE, THE COUNCIL, PRIOR COUNCIL HAS HAD THIS DISCUSSION AND CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION. AND THAT WORKED FINE FOR US NOW TO CONSIDER HAVING, UM, PLAN B AS BEING PROPOSED BY MS. UH, TABER. MS. TABER, IT'S OKAY. IT IS, IT IS, IS COST IS COST EFFECTIVE IS NOT COST INEFFECTIVE. IT'S COST EFFECTIVE. AND I, AND I DON'T, IF, IF WE'RE BEING, IF WE ARE BEING, UH, GOOD STEWARDS OF THE CITIZENS' MONEY, UH, AND THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, THEN I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, PLAN B IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING. WE SHOULD CONSIDER PLAN A. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM? I'VE SAID IT A HUNDRED MEETINGS. I'LL SAY IT. ANOTHER ONE. WE SPENT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ON A TREE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REACH ALL OF OUR CONSTITUENTS ACROSS THIS COUNTY FOR AROUND A HUNDRED GRAND. MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. CHAIRWOMAN. YEAH, I, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE FOLKS THAT WANT TO GO WITH PLAN B. UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW, AND I'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY THAT I TALK TO, THEY LOVE THE FACT THAT WE TRAVEL AROUND. SO WE, WE SHOULD NOT CHANGE THAT AT ALL. I MEAN, THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE CENTER OF THE, UH, COUNTY. I MEAN, I'M ON THE SOUTHERN END HERE AND I, I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHERE I'D HAVE TO GO FOR THE MEETING, BUT THE PEOPLE LOVE TO GET TO THESE THINGS, SO, UH, AND WE HAVE A GREAT IT GROUP. THEY'LL FIX UP WHATEVER ISSUES WE HAVE. SO, COUNCILMAN PASS MINUTE. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? UM, I'M OLD FASHIONED. THIS IS A COUNTY SEAT AND I THINK WE SHOULD MEET THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME HERE. UM, IT, IT, IT IS A, IT IS HARD ON STAFF. UM, THEY'LL DO WHATEVER WE VOTE TO DO, UM, WHEN THEY HAVE TO DO QUOTE THE ROADSHOW. AND THAT'S WHY I ASK THAT THIS INFORMATION BE SENT OUT TO EVERYBODY SO THAT ALL OF YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON WHETHER WE, UM, WHICH ALTERNATIVE WE CHOOSE. AND THE ALTERNATIVE PROPOSED WOULD BE TO MEET EVERY MONTH, UM, EITHER HILTON HEAD OR BLUFFTON. THE OTHER ONE IS TO MEET, UM, TWO QUARTERLY, EITHER HILTON HEAD OR BLUFFTON. SO WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE. I HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT SINCE I, OKAY. YOU ONLY GET TWO, YOU KNOW. WELL THIS IS MY SECOND ONE. ALRIGHT, SO IF YOU CAN CONSIDER, WE HAVE 21 COUNCIL MEETINGS, THEN WE HAVE TWO COMMITTEE MEETINGS A MONTH. SO ALL IN ALL, LET'S JUST CALL IT [02:00:01] FOUR MEETINGS A MONTH FOR 11 MONTHS. JUST ROUND IT OUT. THAT'S 44. I'M ASKING FOR 10 OF THEM TO NOT BE HERE. AND I HEAR YOU SAY THIS IS THE COUNTY SEAT. I GET IT. WE REDID IT. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SOUTH OF THE BROAD. I WILL REMIND YOU, YOU HAVE DISTRICT 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, AND 11 SIX DISTRICTS ARE SOUTH OF THE BROAD AND I BELIEVE THEY DESERVE US TO MOVE AROUND. OKAY. UM, I WILL, WE'LL CALL FOR THE QUESTION. CALL THE ROLL CALL. YES, YOU CAN DO ROLL CALL. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. SO IF YOU VOTE YES, IS TO DO THE, THE B, THE B WHICH IS MORE MEETINGS EVERY MONTH. HILTON HEAD OR BLUFFTON, THE OTHER ONE IS QUARTERLY. OKAY. VICE CHAIR TABER ACT WOULD BE, YES. CAN I GET SOME CLARIFICATION AGAIN? OH, ALSO, DID Y'ALL DISCUSS THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WERE I WAS GONNA BRING THAT UP NEXT BEING VOTED ON AND THE CONSOLIDATION THAT WAS DISCUSSED, I FIGURED THAT WAS NOT A VOTE. I'D BRING IT UP AFTER, BUT OKAY. I THINK IT WAS PART OF THE BACKUP MATERIAL. OKAY. SHE'S REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE PUBLIC SAFETY AND MOVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE RATHER THAN PUBLIC FACILITIES. IT'S JUST A MOVEMENT OF THE, UM, DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. AND THAT WILL BE CHAIR AND THEY BOTH STARTED IN JANUARY AND BOTH THE CHAIRMAN AGREED TO IT. AND THEY BOTH AGREED. AND THAT, OKAY, THAT WORKS FOR ME. UH, BUT MY QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE VOTE AGAIN? ? LEMME JUST MAKE SURE VOTE B OR NO? FOR B, THE VOTE IS SCHEDULE B. WHICH TAKES IS IT? IS IT? YES. NO, I JUST WANT WHICH ONE'S? YES OR OH, IF YOU SAY YES, YOU'RE GOING GOING SCHEDULE B TO PUT 10 OF THESE FIVE ON HILTON AND FIVE IN BOSTON. ONCE A MONTH. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR. THAT'S B IF IT GETS TURNED DOWN, IT GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO SEE IF SOMEBODY PUTS IT ON A FLOOR FOR A THERE YOU GO. YOU GO. OKAY. I'M HERE FOR THE TEAM, SO I'M A YES. WHO SECOND THE MOTION. VICE CHAIR TABER. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PASSMAN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER. ABSTAIN. . COME ON. MR. GLOVER. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BARTHOLOMEW? NO CHAIR HOWARD? NO. MOTION FAILS. NO IT DIDN'T. YES IT DID. YES, SIR. YOU ABSTAINED. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER. YOU ABSTAINED? IT WAS, NO, IT WAS A FIVE. FIVE FOUR. FIVE FOUR. THAT'S FIVE FOUR. WITH ONE ABSTENTION. ONE ABSTENTION. SO IT WAS FIVE CARRIED, DIDN'T IT? NO. YEAH. FIVE VOTED NO. NO FIVE VOTED NO. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO A YES. OKAY. WE, WE WE'RE RUNNING OUTTA TIME, SO WE WILL TELL SOUTH OF THE BROAD. YOU DON'T GET TO SEE US, BUT TWICE. OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST TO CLARIFY. ALRIGHT. NEXT. NEXT IS RESOLUTION. WE STILL, I LITERALLY STILL APPROVE FOR SCHEDULE FOR 2026. SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT TODAY. NEEDS A MOTION. I MOVED TO PUT SCHEDULE A ON THE FLOOR AS THE COUNTY COUNCIL SCHEDULE FOR 2026. I'LL SIX. OH, I CAN'T SECOND. NEVER. SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO. ALL RIGHT. LET'S DO ANOTHER ROLL CALL. VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER OF BARTHOLOMEW. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER REEDS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER POSSMAN. AM I GONNA FIGHT WITH YOU GUYS? NEVERMIND. I'M NOT GONNA FIGHT WITH YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? YES. VICE CHAIR TABER. ABSOLUTELY. NO CHAIR. HOWARD? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE APPROVAL OF OUR SCHEDULE. SCHEDULE A. YES MA'AM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. [13.a. 2025/76: A Resolution authorizing the County Administrator to execute the documents necessary to negotiate with the applicant and to provide funds to the Beaufort County School District for their procurement of fee simple real property located on Lady’s Island, known as the Sea Island Parkway Tracts (pin# R200 015 000 114b 0000, R200 015 000 0638 0000), with a final purchase price not to exceed the requested amount ($2,250,000), contingent upon the results of final due diligence and the School District taking ownership of the property.] ALRIGHT, IF I'M MOVING ALONG, UM, WE ARE IN RESOLUTIONS AND I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO OUR VICE CHAIRMAN. OH, NO, I DON'T. I DO ORDINANCES. THAT'S RIGHT. ORDINANCES. I DO THINK, SORRY, I'M, I'M A LITTLE PUNCHY ABOUT THIS. . ALRIGHT. A 20 25 76. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE APPLICANT AND TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO BUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THEIR PROCUREMENT OF A FEE. SIMPLE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED ON LADIES ISLAND, KNOWN AS THE SEA ISLAND PARKWAY TRACKS. I'M NOT GONNA READ THE PIN NUMBERS. UM, WE HAVE 'EM IN THE DOCUMENTATION WITH A FINAL PURCHASE PRICE NOT TO EXCEED THE REQUESTED AMOUNT OF $2,250,000 CONTENDED UPON THE RESULTS OF THE FINAL DUE DILIGENCE [02:05:01] IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY. THE VOTE AT THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS, UH, NOVEMBER 3RD WAS EIGHT ZERO. AND I THINK WE HAVE VERY PATIENT MIKE MCSHANE HERE FROM THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT IT, AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION. ALL RIGHT. I'LL, I'LL SECOND IT. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIRMAN. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM MIKE MCSA, THE RESIDENT OF CHARLESTON COUNTY. IT MAY NOT BE TONIGHT. I, I KNOW, I'M SORRY. I TRY. I MIGHT STAY IN BUFORT COUNTY TONIGHT. UH, I'M HERE, UH, PRIVILEGED TO BE YOUR CHAIRMAN OF YOUR GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME THROUGH NATURAL RESOURCES ON REALLY AN INTERESTING TRANSACTION TO COLLABORATE WITH YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND I GIVE, UH, COLONEL GUYER AND I SAW MR. UH, EXCUSE ME, HE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU. HE STOOD RIGHT BEHIND ME, UH, EARLIER ABOUT THE COLLABORATION WHERE INITIALLY, AND TO GIVE COLONEL GEIER, I THINK, GREAT CREDIT, I THINK THERE WAS A THOUGHT BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT THIS WAS BEING FORCED ON THEM TO SPEND THEIR MONEY. AND THEN THEY CAME TO REALIZE VERY QUICKLY THAT WE WANT THEM TO, UH, TO, TO ACTUALLY DO THE TRANSACTION. BUT WE WILL PROVIDE THE FUNDING, WHICH IS YOUR, THE RECOMMENDATION HERE TONIGHT, UP TO THE AMOUNT SPECIFIED WITH REALLY LOOKING AT IT AT, AT, AT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND THE, AND THE ACCESS TO THAT SIX ACRES ADDED ONTO THAT CAMPUS REALLY IS AN INTERESTING TIME FOR THOSE CHILDREN TO REALLY THEN INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE CURRICULUM OF THEIR PROGRAM. AND THAT TO ME INCLUDES NOT JUST THE BIOLOGICAL SIDE OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION SIDE, BUT ALL ASPECTS OF THAT FOR THAT WONDERFUL AGE AT THAT'S A GREAT AGE TO EXPOSE CHILDREN TO, UH, THE VALUES THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT THERE. THE SCHOOL ALREADY HAS ACCESS ON TO THE MARSH FRONT TO ADD THE SIX ACRES. THEN MEANS THAT AS THEY REBUILD THE SCHOOL, THEY CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO THIS PROGRAM. AND SO GREEN SPACE, UH, THROUGH YOUR NATIONAL RESOURCE, RECOMMENDS THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE ADMINISTRATOR BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE UP TO THE MONEY THERE. THAT'S, UH, PROVIDED, I BELIEVE IT'S 2,250,000. IT SHOULD COME IN UNDER THAT, UH, AND THE NEGOTIATIONS. BUT THEN, BUT THAT'S ALSO ON CONTINGENT THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAKES OWNERSHIP OF THAT. THIS IS NOT BE AN ASSET OF THE COUNTY BEING AN ASSET OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. MR. SMITH, ANY COMMENTS? NO, I JUST, I JUST, I GREAT. THIS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT WE, UH, CAN WORK TOGETHER AND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, WORK TOGETHER IN, IN HOW WE, UM, IN TERMS OF HOW WE SPEND THE DOLLARS AND, AND MAKING IT MAKE SENSE. I THINK IT'S HONOR, IT'S HONORABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THIS PROPERTY FROM, FROM, FROM, IF THAT'S WHAT WE, WHAT WE, UH, THANK YOU. THANKS FOR OPPORTUNITY. THANKS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING IT? NO. I GUESS WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY IF, WHEN IT'S TURNED OVER TO THE SCHOOL? SO SPECIFICALLY TO THE SIX ACRES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? THE GRANT AGREEMENT WILL BE VERY CLEAR ON THAT. IT'S GONNA HAVE TO, IT'LL BE, UH, ACCORDING TO YOUR ORDINANCE ON GREEN SPACE. SO THEY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CANNOT ALL OF A SUDDEN DECIDE TO TURN IT INTO, UH, SOME TYPE OF PERVIOUS SURFACE THERE, BUT IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE PERFECT IN A NATURAL, YEAH. PERFECT. JUST MAKING SURE. YEAH. YEAH. NATURAL SETTING. BUT THE GRANT AGREEMENT IS WHAT GAVE US THE CONFIDENCE THAT A FUTURE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR A FUTURE, UH, COULDN'T DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THAT SIX ACRES. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THEY COULD USE IT FOR OUTSIDE LAB ACTIVITIES. YEAH. TAKE THE CHILDREN OUTSIDE. PERFECT. WHAT WE, WHAT WE HOPE PUBLICLY THEY'RE HEARING IS WHAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY EXPAND A CURRICULUM THAT CONNECTS RIGHT TO THE NATIONAL RESOURCES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ON THAT CAMPUS. THAT'LL BE VERY UNIQUE AMONGST YOUR SCHOOLS TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO MR. SMITH TELLING US HOW THEY DO THAT. WELL, ACTUALLY WE HAVE SOME SCIENCE TEACHERS WERE TALKING ABOUT IT. RIGHT. THEY WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO TAKE THEIR CLASSES OUT THERE BECAUSE SOMETIMES KIDS LEARNS HANDS ON. AND THAT WILL ALSO GIVE HANDS ON OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR THE KIDS AND STUDENTS IN THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO THAT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, TO THAT. AND SO, AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE GUIDELINES, UH, ACCORDING TO HOW THE TWO ATTORNEYS, UH, LAY INTO WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO TO THAT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO, UH, RESPOND WELL TO THOSE. THANK YOU. RIGHT. OKAY. UM, UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO DO A ROLL CALL, CAN WE DO BY SHOW OF HANDS? OH, I HOPE NOT. I HOPE ALL NEVER WE VOTE THIS UNANIMOUS, BUT ALRIGHT. THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS BY SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR? IN FAVOR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR COMING. MADAM CHAIRMAN. I'LL JUST ADD MY LOW COUNTRY. WELCOME TO YOUR NEW DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR, UM, MS. WOOD. AND THAT IS, UH, OH, I'M SORRY SHE'S DISAPPEARED , BUT I, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT IN MY STATE ROLE AS CHAIRMAN OF YOUR STATE BANK, HOW SHE PLAYED A ROLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE GREENVILLE HISTORIC NATURAL TRUST PROGRAM, WHICH IS A SIMILAR PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE IN GREENVILLE, UH, GREENVILLE COUNTY. AND SO I JUST WAS TO [02:10:01] OFFER MY GRATITUDE THAT SHE'S GOT SOME EXPERIENCE IN THAT ARENA. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL PASS THAT ALONG. THANK YOU. OH, AND I HOPE, UH, MADAM, YOU WON'T TAKE NO, NO, THE COUNCIL WON'T TAKE ANY EXCEPTION THAT IF I DECIDE TO HEAD RIGHT BACK TO . NO, SIR. WE WANTED YOU TO GO FIRST, THAT'S [13.b. 2025/71: A Resolution Authorizing the Execution of a First Amended Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) Between Beaufort County and the South Carolina Transportation Infrastructure Bank (SIB) for the US 278 Corridor Project.] FOR SURE. OKAY. B ON OUR RESOLUTIONS. 20 25 71. THANK YOU FOR COMING, MIKE. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE FIRST AMENDED INTER IGA BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND THE SOUTH CAROLINA TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, OR THE SIB FOR THE US 2 78 CORRIDOR PROJECT. THE VOTE AT PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE WAS EIGHT ZERO. UM, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION FOR THAT RESOLUTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SOMEONE A SECOND FROM, OKAY. YES. ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, I WAS GOING BACK THROUGH MY EMAILS. I NOTICED ONE FROM, UM, BAJA. AND DID ANYBODY ADDRESS THE FRIENDS OF HILTON? HI OR, UM, HUNTING ISLAND? THIS, THIS ONE OR THIS IS THE SIB? THIS IS SIB. I'M SORRY. I'M, I'M SORRY. IT'S A DIFFERENT ONE. IT'S 78TH. I'M SORRY, I'M ON THE WRONG ONE. . THAT'S OKAY. SO MY QUESTION STANDS FOR THE NEXT ONE WHEN WE GET TO HIM. OKAY. UM, OKAY. THIS IS WHERE WE THANK MR. FRA FOR HIS DEDICATION TO KEEP THIS GOING. WHERE IS HE GOING? HE'S, OH, HE LEFT. OH, THERE HE IS. YEAH. HE WAS, UH, STALWART FOR THIS, SO, RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS FOR THIS RESOLUTION. AND THIS IS [13.c. 2025/72: A Resolution to approve recommendations to award FY26 Community Services Grant Program funds in the amount of $398,000 to community service organizations.] PASSED. OKAY. C IS 20 25 72. A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO AWARD FY 26 COMMUNITY SERVICES PROGRAM GRANT FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $398,000 TO COMMUNITY SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS. THE VOTE AT THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025 WAS EIGHT TWO. DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, A MOTION? WE HAVE A MOTION BY MS. BROWN AND A SECOND BY, I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT BY. COUNCILMAN GLOVER. I THINK WE'LL, UH, NEED TO HAVE A VOTE, UM, BY, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF SINCE ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS IS I'M ON THE BOARD. SO I WILL RECUSE. I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I'M SORRY MS. MADAM CHAIRMAN, MAY I DISCUSS? I SHOULD SAY THAT YES, OF COURSE. I APOLOGIZE. UM, WE VOTED, I VOTED AGAINST THIS BECAUSE I FEEL THAT NONPROFITS SHOULD NOT BE GETTING TAXPAYER MONEY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE OTHER MEANS OF INCOME. AND, UH, $398,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? AND IS THIS THE ONE FOR MR. UE? NO, NEVERMIND. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, MADAM CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO HONOR OBJECT, UM, IF I COULD, UH, I'M JUST WANT TO SUPPORT YOUR, UM, COMMENT YOU MADE AT THE LAST MEETING WHERE YOU ASKED THAT, UM, UH, A CONSIDERATION OF THIS COUNCIL TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT. SO I'M JUST GONNA MAKE THAT COMMENT, OKAY? OKAY. ALRIGHT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A ROLL CALL. VOTE CHAIR. YES. COUNCILMAN? I'M RECUSED MYSELF AS WELL. OKAY. YOU BOTH OF Y'ALL HAVE RECUSED YOURSELF. ALL RIGHT. TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE THAT INFIN ITEM? YES. OKAY. UM, MS. ASHLEY, CAN YOU, THE PERSON THAT MADE THE MOTION FIRST WAS PAULA. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER REEDS? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER PASSID? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DOBSON. EXCUSE. COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW. YES. CHAIR HOWARD? YES. THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK [13.d. 2025/73: A Resolution approving the Beaufort County Economic Development Corporation's use $600,000 of County Site & Jobs Funds for the purchase of land on St. Helena Island for the development of a Gullah Geechee Cultural Center & Entrepreneurial Market.] YOU. WE'LL GO ON TO D 20 25 73. A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S USE OF $600,000 OF COUNTY SITE AND JOBS FUND FOR THE PURCHASE OF LAND ON ST. HELENA FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURAL CENTER AND ENTREPRENEURIAL MARKET. THE VOTE AT FINANCE ADMINISTRATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 17TH WAS, UM, FIVE FIVE. IT FAILED. SO WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 20 25 73. SO MOVED. MADAM CHAIRMAN. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DAWSON. NEED TO DISCUSS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. YOU WANNA GO FIRST? COUNCILMAN BROWN? UM, UM, WOULD WE HERE FOR MR. MR. GO FIRST? YOU MADE THE MOTION. YES, SIR. YEAH, I APOLOGIZE. I WAS WONDERING WHETHER WE ARE GONNA HEAR FROM, UM, UH, MR. O'TOOLE, BUT, UM, IF NOT, WE'LL JUST, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, [02:15:01] WE HAVE, WE'VE, WE'VE COME HERE AT THIS JUNCTION, UM, TO OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS OF ST. HELENA TO DO SOMETHING ECONOMICALLY. UM, AND, UM, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW. UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE COMMUNITY HAS ACTUALLY COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT AND DISCUSS POSSIBILITIES OF A ECONOMIC DRIVING ENGINE FOR ST. HELENA. UM, AND SO WHEN WE MET IN 19, IN THE EARLY 1990S, UM, WILLIAM COCHRAN, UM, CAME BEFORE ST. HELENA COMMUNITY AND HE, HE BROUGHT AN IDEA OF DEVELOPING . AND, UM, AS A RESULT OF THAT, UM, HE ASKED, UH, THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT, UH, THE EFFORT OF SEWER. AND SO SEWER WAS EXTENDED, UM, FOR ST. HELENA RESIDENTS, PRIMARILY FOR DARAL. UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, UM, OUR COMMUNITY SAID, IF WE'RE GONNA DO SEWER, WE ARE GONNA BENEFIT SEWER, BUT WE DO NOT WANT SEWER ALL OVER ST. HELENA ISLAND. SO, SEWER CAME TO ST. HELENA, UM, IN WHAT IS CALLED THE CORNERS COMMUNITY, WHICH STARTS PRIMARILY AT THE, UM, ST. HONA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE IT'S GRAVITY, FLO SEWER, UH, IT GOES TO THE PENN CENTER. UM, IT COMES DOWN, UH, MLK, UH, DRIVE, AND IT GOES TOWARD THE, UM, POST OFFICE AND DOWN TO POLL ROAD. THAT'S THE AREA THAT MY COMMUNITY SAID IF WE'RE GONNA DO COMMERCIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE WANT TO PURSUE. AND SO THE PROPOSAL HERE IS TO PURCHASE WHAT I CONSIDER PRIME PROPERTY ON, UM, ON ST. HELENA IN THE CORNISH COMMUNITY FOR AN ECONOMIC ENGINE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY AND ARE ASKING YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO ALLOW MY COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UH, TALK ABOUT, DISCUSS HOW THEY CAN IMPROVE THEIR AREAS ECONOMICALLY. AND SO THAT'S THE MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR, UM, AT THIS TIME. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN BROWN? I DO. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. MM-HMM . UH, I HAVE BROUGHT UP QUITE A FEW THINGS DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING. ONE IS THE COMPS WERE DONE, THIS IS PROPERTIES IN ST. HELENA, BUT THE COMPS WERE TAKEN FROM ROBERT SMALLS PARKWAY 10 MILES AWAY. I ALSO POINTED OUT ON PAGE 1 36, THE APPRAISER PUT ON THERE IN 2022. IT WAS $200,000 IN 2023 AND WENT UP TO ONE POINT SOMETHING MILLION. HOW DOES PROPERTY APPRECIATE THAT FAST IN ONE YEAR? UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I DO BECAUSE I, I SEE WHAT, UM, MA DAISY HAS DONE OVER IN BLUFFTON AND IF YOU'VE BEEN OVER THERE, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OVER THERE, YOU GOTTA GO BECAUSE THEY MAKE THE BEST DONUTS YOU HAVE EVER HAD. THEY REALLY DO. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, MR. GLOVER, BUT WHAT I DON'T AGREE WITH IS THE TAXPAYER PAYING FOR IT. YOU HAVE A WEDDING RESORT GOING OUT THERE, YOU HAVE AN RV RESORT GOING OUT THERE, AND THAT'S PRIVATE FUNDS. THAT'S PRIVATE MONEY PEOPLE ARE PUTTING UP TO BUILD THOSE TWO RESORTS. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT, YOU SHOULD GET PRIVATE MONEY. NOT ASK THE TAXPAYER, COME TO THE TAXPAYER AND ASK US FOR THE MONEY. AND FURTHERMORE, THE COMPS NOT JUST 10 MILES AWAY, BUT AGAIN, UM, IT, I UNDERSTAND FROM READING A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE APPRAISAL. THIS IS 10 ACRES, TWO PARCELS, ONE IS NOT BUILD BUILDABLE, AND THREE IS NOT BUILDABLE AND THE OTHER. SO IF YOU TAKE FOUR FROM THE 10, THEY USE SIX ACRES. IT'S NOT WORTH $1.6 MILLION. OKAY. SO I'M VOTING NO, LEMME JUST MAKE ONE THAT WAS RESPOND. NO, LET'S COUNT. THIS COUNT'S BEEN LOST. OKAY. SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THEY HAVEN'T READ THE BACKUP THAT, THAT THERE IS STATE MONEY BEING PUT INTO THIS, UM, TO, TO, AS, AS PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO THERE'S A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT, IS THAT CORRECT? FROM THE STATE? FROM THE STATE. FROM THE STATE. AND SO WE'RE COMING UP WITH $600,000. SO AGAIN, THE, THE STATE HAS COME UP WITH A MILLION DOLLARS. WE'RE THEN, UM, ASKED TO PUT IN $600,000, WHICH AGAIN, THAT, THAT PERCENTAGE, [02:20:01] THAT AMOUNT I THINK IS A GREAT DEAL FOR US FOR, FOR SOMETHING FOR ST. HELENA, UM, TO USE THAT MILLION DOLLARS THAT, THAT, THAT'S COMING FORWARD FROM THE STATE. OTHERWISE WE, WE, THEY LOSE THE MONEY AND IT DOESN'T GO TO ST. HELENA FOR THIS PROJECT. ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN? UM, KAEPERNICK. SO I SAID THIS AT COMMITTEE MEETING AND I, AND I SAID AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE SHORT VERSION BECAUSE IT'S EIGHT 30 WE'RE THAT'S TO BUY LAND. THEY HAVE NO SET PLAN. THERE IS NO 5 0 1 C3, THERE IS NO MAGIC PART OF $14 MILLION TO BUILD IT. THERE IS NO CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF WHO'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF IT. AND MY FEAR IS THE COUNTY WILL INHERIT THIS. THE PLAN IS NOT FULLY THOUGHT OUT. AND SO I'M NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THIS AT THIS TIME. MR. CUNNINGHAM. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM? YEAH, I'LL KEEP IT SHORT 'CAUSE I MADE MY COMMENTS AS WELL IN COMMITTEE. UH, FIRST THING, TO JOHN'S CREDIT, HE WAS TASKED WITH THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AT THE REQUEST OF, UM, COUNCIL AT THE TIME. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS, JUST LIKE I STATED IN THAT COMMITTEE. UM, I KNOW WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE EYE TO EYE, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO GETTING THIS DONE, UM, OVER THE YEARS. UM, WITH THAT SAID, I DO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT TAB JUST SAID. THIS IS JUST FOR THE LAND. THIS IS A $15 MILLION PROJECT WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE. AND I AM STILL TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND HOW YOU CAN NOT ONLY COME UP WITH THE $15 MILLION, BUT SAY THAT THAT'S WORTH THE INVESTMENT TO HOW MUCH REVENUE THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA GENERATE. AND I WILL NOT EVEN GET INTO THE, UH, ASPECTS OF HOW IRONIC IT IS FOR WHAT JUST WENT ON EARLIER TODAY. UM, BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT. OKAY. COMING BACK TO COUNCILMAN GLOVER, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? UH, YES. UH, MADAM CHAIRMAN, UM, SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS AGO BEFORE I EITHER GOT ON COUNCIL OR SHORTLY AFTER I GOT ON COUNCIL, I WAS LISTENING TO, UM, A PRESENTATION BY NPR. UM, AND UM, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A CITY OF NORTH, I BELIEVE IT WAS PHILADELPHIA. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID WAS THAT, UM, SMALL BUSINESSES ESSENTIAL TO PHILADELPHIA, SMALL BUSINESSES, ESSENTIAL TO ANY COMMUNITY. HOWEVER, UM, THE SMALL BUSINESS IN SAINT IN PHILADELPHIA COULD NOT COMPETE FOR THE LAND PURCHASE OR THE BEST LOCATION WITH MAJOR COMPANIES. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT CONVERSATION OR THE DISCUSSION WAS IT'S ESSENTIAL IF COUNTY GOVERNMENT OR GOVERNMENT BELIEVE THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ESSENTIAL FOR A COMMUNITY THEY HAVE TO HELP. AND THAT'S WHY I AM HERE TODAY ASKING, UM, FOR THAT CONSIDERATION FOR IT TO BASICALLY ALLOW A COMMUNITY WHO CANNOT AFFORD WHAT, UM, MCDONALD'S CAN TO PURCHASE THAT LAND. UM, GIVE THEM THAT SHOUT ANY, UM, TO HELP THEM ALONG THE WAY. UM, SO I, I WILL ASK, UM, AND I, I HEAR WHAT MR. TABERNAC HAS SAID, UM, THAT IT'S HARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A MORE DEFINITIVE PLAN. UM, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME, UH, IN, IN, IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME BACK TO THIS BODY WITH A MORE DEFINITIVE PLAN, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE ANY DECISION AT THIS TIME UNTIL THE LAST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, UM, ALLOWING THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN WITH A MORE, UM, MEAT ON THE BONE AT THIS TIME. UM, AND IF I COULD GET A SECOND TO THAT AND A MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL THAT TIME, CERTAIN, WHICH IS THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY. UM, I WOULD ALSO SAY TO YOU THAT, UM, THE LANDOWNERS HAVE SENT, SUBMITTED ME A LETTER, UM, AGREEING TO ANY KIND OF EXTENSION AT THIS TIME SO IT WOULD NOT JEOPARDIZE, UM, IF WE DECIDE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, UM, THE, UM, THE LETTER OF AGREEMENT THAT THEY WILL EXTEND THE DEADLINE. WE, WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND. I THINK WE GOT, HAS IT BEEN SECOND? THERE WAS COUNCILMAN FIRST MOTION. OH, OKAY. THE FIRST MOTION, NOT THE SECOND. FIRST MOTION. SO I'M GOING TO OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN AND SECOND. IT. THIS IS A PROCEDURAL MOTION. IT TAKES PRECEDENCE OVER THE MOTIONS. YES. WAS ABOUT, SAY SECONDARY MOTION FOR IT SO WE CAN IT YOU'RE MAKING THAT MOTION. SO THE MOTION WAS TO POSTPONE IT TO FEBRUARY 23RD. YES. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT MOTION. WAIT, WE, WE GOTTA HAVE A SECOND. AND HE SECOND. MR. LAWSON SECONDED IT. FEBRUARY 23RD. ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION. I'LL DISCUSS. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, SO I WENT TO THE FIRST MEETING YOU HAD ON ST. HELENA, [02:25:01] I DON'T REMEMBER AUGUST. MAYBE YOU'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS. THE BACKUP DOCUMENT. JULY, JULY, JULY, JULY. THE BACKUP DOCUMENT SAYS YOU HAD FIVE OR SIX, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU'VE HAD FOR YOU TO SAY, WAIT TO GIVE YOU TIME TO PUT MEAT ON THE BONES. THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID THE FIRST MEETING. THERE'S NO MEAT ON THE BONES. I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE MEAT ON THIS BONES. I'D RATHER TAKE THIS MONEY AND PUT IT TOWARD THE REC CENTER OUT ON ST. HELENA, WHICH PEOPLE HAVE ASKED FOR OVER AND OVER FOR OUR CHILDREN. THIS DOES NOT SERVE THE NEED FOR THE CHILDREN. SO I'M, I'M STILL, BUT IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO SERVE THE NEED FOR CHILDREN. I UNDERSTAND THAT. YES. YEAH. IT'S DESIGNED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. FOR ST. HELENA CUNNINGHAM, YOU TO COMMENT ABOUT THE MOTION, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING TO NOW THAT EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT REOPENING SOMETHING TO GIVE IT MORE TIME FOR EDUCATION TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION. AND YOU DID NOT SUPPORT THAT, BUT YOU WANT US TO SUPPORT YOU GETTING MORE TIME FOR EDUCATION THAT I, I, THE IRONY BEHIND IT, I JUDGE, I JUST, THERE'S NO WAY I COULD SUPPORT THAT. THERE'S I $15 MILLION FOR AN INVESTMENT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO GET THIS DONE. I DO NOT SEE HOW TWO MONTHS GETS THAT DONE. UM, SO I I I DO BELIEVE STAYING CONSISTENT. UM, SO I WILL STICK WITH CONSISTENCY ON MY END. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS MOTION? OH, OH YES. WE'VE HAD PEOPLE RIGHT IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW TALK ABOUT REC CENTER AND THE NEED FOR IT. WE'VE NEVER HEARD ABOUT A CULTURAL ART CENTER, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD VOTE ON IT TONIGHT. ALRIGHT, SO NOW, WELL, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND COUNCIL NORTH, I MEAN, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE, WHAT EXACTLY WOULD BE COMING BACK FORWARD? WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS IT GONNA BE A BUSINESS PLAN OR IT WOULD BE MORE OF A BUSINESS PLAN, UM, UM, BRINGING IT FORWARD, UM, AND THEN HAVE A CHANCE FOR COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. MM-HMM . OKAY. A ROLL CALL. VOTE ON THIS MOTION THEN, MA'AM. AND THIS IS MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO FEBRUARY 23RD? YES. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RES? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER PASSMAN? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER DAWSON? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW? YES. VICE CHAIR KAEPERNICK? NO. CHAIR HOWARD? NO. THE MOTION FAILS. FIVE FIVE. BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. YES MA'AM. BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. ALRIGHT. UM, MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE FIRST MOTION? THE FIRST MOTION THEN IF THAT ONE FAILED, OR WE CAN TAKE A ROLL CALL ON HIS AND THEN I CAN, EITHER WAY WE'LL STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION AFTERWARDS THOUGH. CORRECT. MOTION FOR DENIAL WAS WHAT WE WOULD NEED AFTER. BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION. THE MAIN MOTION, THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 20 25 73. IT WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER, SECONDED BY MR. DAWSON. YOU NEED A ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR THAT. OKAY. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER. UM, THE MOTION? NO, THE FIRST MOTION. THIS IS THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. IT'S SOLUTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. IT'S YOUR RESOLUTION. YEAH, PLEASE. OKAY. IT'S TO, IT'S THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 20 25 73. YOU WERE THE FIRST. MR. DAWSON WAS THE SECOND. UM, YES. OKAY. MR. DAWSON? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER REEDS? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER PASSMAN? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BARTHOLOMEW? NO. VICE CHAIR. TABER? NO. CHAIR HOWARD? NO. HE DIDN'T CALL MARK. OH, SORRY. LAWSON? YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER LAWSON? UH, YES. YES. OKAY. MOTION FAILS. SIX FOUR. NO. SO NOW YOU NEED THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. CORRECT. 6 4 6 4 4. WHERE? YES. SIX FOR NO. SO MADAM CHAIR, THEN I WOULD MAKE THE MOTION TO, FOR DENIAL OF THIS ITEM. I DUNNO IF WE THAT I DON'T DUNNO WHY YOU NEED THAT MOTION. YOU VOTED IT DOWN. NO, WE VOTED NOT TO APPROVE IT. NOT TAKE ACTION. FOR DENIAL. ALRIGHT. MR. HOBERT, ADVICE IN ZONING MATTERS. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE ACTION MOTION FOR THAT IN NORMAL MATTERS LIKE THIS, IF IT'S NOT APPROVED, THEN IT FAILS. YEAH. IT'S [02:30:01] JUST A SIMPLE FAIL. YEAH. [13.e. 2025/74: A Resolution to accept a South Carolina Aeronautics Commission (SCAC) Commercial Airport Entitlement Grant ($18,455) funding for Terminal Lot Tree Removal at the Hilton Head Island Airport — CONTINGENT UPON FINAL SCAC GRANT OFFER.] OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING ON TO E 20 25 74. A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT SOUTH CAROLINA AERONAUTICS COMMISSION COMMERCIAL AIRPORT ENTITLEMENT GRANT. EIGHT. EIGHT. IS THAT RIGHT? $18,455,000. FUNDING FOR TERMINAL LOCK TREE REMOVAL AT HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT IS CONTINGENT UPON THE FINAL SCAC GRANT. OFFER THE VOTE AT PUBLIC FACILITIES ON NOVEMBER 17TH WITH EIGHT ZERO. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. A MOTION BY I'LL SECOND. AND WHO SECOND. COUNCILMAN BROWN. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. AND, UH, BY SHOW OF HANDS, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS GRANT, AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. OH, I'M SORRY. YEAH. . OKAY. [13.f. 2025/75: A Resolution Authorizing the Execution of a Cost-Share Agreement Between Beaufort County, the Town of Bluffton, and Buckwalter Place Association, Inc. for the Development, Construction, and Ownership of the Washington Square – Buckwalter Place Connector Road.] UM, F 20 25 75 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A COST SHARE AGREEMENT BETWEEN BEAUFORT COUNTY, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND BUCK WALTER PLACE, ASSOCIATION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTION AND OWNERSHIP OF WASHINGTON SQUARE. BUCK WALTER PLACE CONNECTOR ROAD. THE VOTE AT PUBLIC FACILITIES WAS EIGHT ZERO AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN, UH, LOGAN CUNNINGHAM. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? AND I'LL SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR BY SIGN OF THE DISCUSSION? YOU? YEAH. OH, I JUST WANNA MAKE A ONE POINT OF NOTE. I'M SORRY. UM, SO WHAT WAS HEARD AT PUBLIC FACILITIES? UM, AND THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THE, UM, TO THE COST. OH, THERE WAS A COST ESTIMATE OF $400,000 WITH A 20% CONTINGENCY. SO 480,000 WAS A TOTAL PROJECT COST. UM, WE'VE GOT A REFINED ESTIMATE IN THE EXHIBITS IN THE BACKUP. AND THE PROJECT COST IS NOW ESTIMATED AT 5 76 WITH A 20% CONTINGENCY IS 6 92. SO OUR SHARE HAS GONE UP. OUR, OUR ONE THIRD SHARE IS APPROXIMATELY 230,000. IT WOULD STILL COME OUT OF THE IMPACT FEE FUNDS. MM-HMM . FOR THE SOUTH AREA. UM, AND IT'S STILL THE SAME PROJECT. EVERYTHING THAT IS DESCRIBED, WE JUST GOT THE UPDATED COST ESTIMATE. JUST COST MORE. IT, YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS DRAFT AT PUBLIC FACILITIES, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT FORWARD. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? UH, JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, THIS HAS BEEN THE PLAN FOR ACCESS ROADS TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY AND BUCKWALTER. SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GO FROM MULTIPLE BUSINESSES WITHOUT TOUCHING THE OPPOSITE ROAD, WHICH ALLEVIATES TRAFFIC. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET ONE MORE CONNECTING WASHINGTON SQUARE TO THE MOVIE THEATER COMPLEX AS WELL IN THE FUTURE. THAT WOULD BE NICE. HAVE THE OTHER TWO ENTITIES APPROVED THE INCREASE? YEAH, IT WAS, WELL, BLUFFTON, WE'RE WAITING ON EVERYBODY'S SIGNATURE, BUT EVERYBODY'S, UM, MOVING FORWARDS. UPDATED. EVERYBODY KNOWS THE INCREASE. YEAH. ALRIGHT, BY SHOW OF HANDS, APPROVAL FOR THIS AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. ALRIGHT, [13.g. 2025/77: A Resolution authorizing the County Administrator to enter into a memorandum of understanding with the City of Beaufort for collaboration on the 1st South Carolina Volunteers of African Descent Park.] THANK YOU. G IS 20 25 77 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CITY OF BEAUFORT FOR COLLABORATION ON THE FIRST SOUTH CAROLINA VOLUNTEERS OF AFRICAN DESCENT PARK. UM, WE HAVE TWO, THREE VISITORS FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT HERE, UM, GENERAL MITCHELL AND SCOTT MARSHALL. AND, UH, WELCOME. SORRY, IT'S BEEN A LATE MEETING. THE VOTE AT THE NATURAL RESOURCE MEETING WAS, UH, NOVEMBER 3RD WAS SEVEN ONE. UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DO THIS MOTION BY? YES MA'AM. COUNCILMAN GLOVER? DO WE HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW? ANY DIS ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PARK? NO. DOES EVERYONE KNOW WHERE IT'S AT? IT'S, YES. IT'S ABOUT, OKAY. EVERYONE KNOWS WHERE IT'S AT ON THE WATER. UM, GENERAL MITCHELL OR SCOTT, WOULD Y'ALL LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT? I THINK YOU GOT THE VOTES. MAYBE. I, OKAY. SO I WILL SAY I AM GONNA VOTE YES. YOU CONVINCED ME I WAS THE ONE. NO VOTE. YES MA'AM. AND, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I SPENT SO MUCH TIME TRYING TO WHITTLE THIS DOWN FROM FIVE MINUTES TO THREE MINUTES. DIDN'T WANNA SUFFER THE IRON. MISS, UH, MR. GL THIS TIME. AND THANKS FOR THE VOTE IN ADVANCE. BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY FROM AN EDUCATIONAL PERSPECTIVE TO SHARE MY NOTES IF I, IF I MAY. SO, UH, UM, THANK YOU, UH, MADAM CHAIR FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. UH, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A COALITION SUPPORTING THE CREATION OF THE FIRST SOUTH CAROLINA VOLUNTEERS OF AFRICAN DESCENT PARK. OUR TEAM INCLUDES THE STAFF, UH, STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, BEAUFORT COUNTY OPEN LAND TRUST INSTITUTE FOR THE STUDY OF THE RECONSTRUCTION ERA AT, UH, USCB, THE RE REGIAN FOUNDATION, AND TWO SENIOR RETIRED ARMY OFFICER. ONE WAS HERE EARLIER, BUT UH, I THINK HE WENT TO THE OVERFLOW AND THEN HE WENT HOME. UM, THIS PROJECT BEGAN WITH THE VISION OF THE LATE REVEREND DOCK, ELIJAH WASHINGTON, UH, DESCENDANT OF THE FIRST SOUTH CAROLINA VOLUNTEERS. UM, WELL I WAS GONNA SAY REQUESTING, BUT I WANNA THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THE RESOLUTION. AND ALONG WITH THAT, UH, [02:35:01] THE APPROVAL OF THE $56,500 WE NEEDED, UM, TO BRIDGE THE GAP FOR, UH, PROCEEDING WITH THE MASTER PLAN. THE FIRST SOUTH CAROLINA VOLUNTEER HOLDS AN EXTRAORDINARY PLACE IN AMERICAN HISTORY. IN 1862 RIGHT HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, FORMERLY ENSLAVED MEN STEPPED FORWARD AT FORT SAXTON TO DEFEND THE UNION AND CLAIM THEIR OWN FREEDOM. WOMEN, INCLUDING HARRIET TUBMAN AND NURSE, UH, SUSIE KING TAYLOR, UH, CONTRIBUTED TO THEIR SUCCESS. MOST OF THE SOLDIERS WERE GULLAH GEECHEE MEN FROM THROUGHOUT BEAUFORD COUNTY, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD. THEY WERE FROM HILTON HEAD, BLUFFTON, UH, OKEE, AND, UH, NORTH OF THE BROAD FROM PLACES LIKE RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF BUFORD, PORT WALL BURTON, AND ALSO FROM SHELDON. THEY INCLUDED FOLKS LIKE WILLIAM BRONSON, THE FIRST TO ENLIST, AND PRINCE RIVERS, WHO ROSE TO THE RANK OF SERGEANT MAJOR, THE HIGHEST RANK FOR THE ENLISTED, AND BECAME THE STATE LEGISLATOR AND WENT ON TO BE ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF, UH, AIKEN COUNTY. UM, FOLKS RIGHT HERE IN BEAUFORD, LIKE ED ALLEN AND OUR OWN GERALD DAWSON CAN CHANGE, CAN TRACE THEIR HERITAGE THROUGH THE FIRST SOUTH CAROLINA VOLUNTEERS. UM, THANKS FOR APPROVING THE MOU. UM, BY DOING SO, BEAUFORD COUNTY HONORS THE PAST WHILE INVESTING IN OUR CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL FUTURE. THE MEN OF THE FIRST SOUTH CAROLINA VOLUNTEERS ANSWER THEIR CA COUNTRY'S CALL. I THANK YOU. I WAS GONNA SAY ASK YOU, BUT I THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THE ME RANDOM FOR IT ALLOWS US TO PROCEED WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND BRING LIFE TO THE PARK. SO THANK YOU MADAM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE TO TAKE AN OFFICIAL VOTE THOUGH, RIGHT? BY SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS AND IT'S A GREAT PROJECT. I, UNANIMOUS, I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF. YOU ARE. 'CAUSE YOU'RE RELATED. OKAY. MR. PASSMAN, MY GREAT, GREAT GRANDFATHER, JAMES DAWSON WAS A MEMBER OF THE FIRST ONE. HE'S A MEMBER OF IT. WOW. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. ALL RIGHT. SO IT WASN'T, AND COUNCIL MEMBER PASSMAN IS NOT, NOT, HE'S GONE CURRENTLY THERE, SO, OKAY, SO WE GOT, SO WE GOT EIGHT VOTES. EIGHT. EIGHT VOTES. EIGHT TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. [13.h. 2025/78: A Resolution approving Strategic Initiatives set by Beaufort County Council for Fiscal Year 2027.] OKAY. UM, THE NEXT, THIS, THIS WAS A GREAT PROJECT TO DO COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY TOO. UM, H IS 20 25 78 A RESOLUTION APPROVING STRATEGIC INITIATIVES SET BY THE BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL FOR PHYSICAL YEAR 2027. MOTION. MOTION BY, I'LL SECOND THAT TAB. TABER, NICK AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BROWN. ANY DISCUSSION? WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP MEETINGS AND MS. MS. PINKY HARRIET IS HERE. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO TELL THE PUBLIC, IF YOU GO TO PAGE 418, WHICH I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T GET TO, THAT SHOWS YOU OUR 2026 INITIATIVES AND THEY'RE ALL IN PROGRESS. SO KUDOS TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT. AND THEN YOU MOVE ON TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. FOUR 18 AND GO INTO FOUR 19. THOSE ARE INITIATIVES FOR, UM, 2027. CORRECT. SO YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ALL THIS HAPPEN, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA WORK ON IT, YES. MM-HMM . , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, THINK SHE STAYED HERE THIS LONG. WE SHOULD ASK HER SOMETHING, BUT ASK HER SOMETHING. I THOUGHT PASS CHAIRMAN PASSMAN OR MISS PASSMAN WAS COUNCILMAN PASSMAN. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO NOT. AND, UH, TRYING TO FEEL BETTER. I CAN'T, UH, FINISH THE MEETING. I GO AHEAD. WE HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER. YOU FEEL BETTER? YEAH. GET WELL MERY CHRISTMAS DAY BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS. OKAY. WE APPRECIATE YOU HANGING IN THERE AS LONG AS YOU DID. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. EVERYBODY VOTE THE REST OF THEM . OKAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, MS. HARRIET? I DO NOT EXHIBIT A, UM, IN YOUR BACKUP, IT SHOWS ALL OF THE ONGOING INITIATIVES FROM FISCAL YEAR 25, 26 IS BUDGET AND THEN WE ADDED 27. SO A LITTLE BULLET POINT, SIMPLIFIED LIST FOR YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK ON IT. ALRIGHT, NEXT IS, UH, ORDINANCES. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. TABER. UH, RULES AND PROCEDURES. OH, I HAVE ONE MORE NEED TO VOTE RULES AND PROCEDURES. ONE MORE. OH, I, OKAY, THERE WE GO. THEN WE STILL NEED TO VOTE ON, I DO HAVE, I DO HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE EYE DOCTOR TOMORROW. MAYBE NEED, WE STILL NEED TO VOTE ON THAT ITEM AS WELL. VOTE ON RE COUNCIL RULES AND PROCEDURES. WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION. UM, ALL IN FAVOR FOR H BY SIGN OF HANDS. OKAY. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. [13.i. 2025/79: A Resolution repealing and replacing Council's Rules and Procedures.] ALL RIGHT, THE NEXT PAGE ON I 20 25 79, A RESOLUTION, REPEALING AND REPLACING COUNSEL'S RULES AND PROCEDURES. THIS HAS BEEN A, A LONG EFFORT, UM, BY MS, BY MS. BROCK AND MS. ASHLEY. [02:40:01] UM, WE APPRECIATE ALL THEIR WORK ON IT. IT WAS RE VOTE AT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING ON NOVEMBER 17TH, WAS EIGHT TO TWO AND THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE IT APPROVED BY DECEMBER. SO, WE'LL, ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, GO AHEAD. COMMENTS? NO. OKAY. NO. ANY I'VE BE LOOKING AT IT. YEAH, ME TOO. . OKAY. WHAT? YES, MR. HOBERT? NOPE. I'LL MAKE WAITING ON TO ACCEPT THE HANDBOOK. DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO ACCEPT THE HANDBOOK? I'LL SECOND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW. DISCUSSION? UM, I HAVE A ONE QUESTION. MADAM CHAIR. YES. WHY DID IT, WHY DID TWO PEOPLE VOTE AGAINST IT? DO YOU KNOW? LORD, ON MY NOTES, I BELIEVE IT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, UH, MILEAGE AND ATTENDANCE WERE THE TWO ISSUES. VIRTUAL AND STUFF, RIGHT? YEAH. IT WAS VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE AND YES MA'AM. AND WE AND BEING ABLE TO, YEAH. OKAY. AND WHAT DID, DID WE CHANGE? WE CHANGE IT. WE CHANGED THOSE TWO CONCERNS. UPDATED. WHAT WAS THE NO, WE WE DIDN'T JUST ONE, JUST ONE OF 'EM ABOUT VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE. MILEAGE STATE. WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? MILEAGE STATE. 30 DAYS. OH, 30 DAYS FROM YES, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS ABOUT THE MILEAGE BEING PAID FOR THAT. AND THE OTHER ONE WE TALKED ABOUT WAS VIRTUAL FOR BEING ABLE TO VOTE OR NOT. AND THAT PART WAS ADDRESSED. YES, IT WAS CHANGED. AND IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE RIGHT, AND NOW YOU, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO VOTE ON COMMITTEE JUST LIKE WE DID BEFORE, RIGHT? ABOUT ME MAKING IT RIGHT. IT IS VIRTUAL LIEUTENANT. WE TOOK, WE WENT BACK TO HOW IT WAS. WE KEPT IT AS IT WAS. OKAY. DO WE NEVER SAY I DON'T DO MY HOMEWORK? UM, DO WE HAVE A, DO WE NEED ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS GOING BY? SHOW OF HANDS. ALL IN FAVOR, MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. OKAY, [14.a. 2025/49: An Ordinance to amend the business and professional licenses Ordinance, Chapter 18, Article III, Section 18-67(A)(B), Appendix A&B. ] LET'S SEE IF YOU DO, NOW WE CAN GO TO ORDINANCES FOR THIRD READING. ALRIGHT. ORDINANCES FOR THIRD READING 2025 SLASH 49 IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL LICENSE ORDINANCE CHAPTER 18, ARTICLE THREE, SECTION 1867 AB APPENDIX AB, THE VOTE AT NATURAL RESOURCE SEVEN ZERO, THE VOTE AT FIRST READING OCTOBER 27, 7, 3. AND THE VOTE AT SECOND READING WITH A PUBLIC HEARING NOVEMBER 10TH AND I'M SORRY I BLOCKED IT OUT. ALRIGHT, EIGHT THREE. OKAY, SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I'LL MOTION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MS. BROWN. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND BY A MOTION BY MS. BROWN, SECOND BY MR. DAWSON FOR ORDINANCE 2025 SLASH 49. I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. REMEMBER WE, IF I'M CORRECT, MR. ATKINSON, WE MUST CHANGE THIS BY DECEMBER 31ST SO THE CLOCK'S TICKING. OKAY. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION OR COMMENT? NO. OKAY. I'LL CLOSE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR 20 25 49. RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. ALL OPPOSED? TWO. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ORDINANCE, YOU GUYS [15.a. 2025/51: An ordinance to amend Beaufort County’s Ordinance Chapter 102 Waterways article IV, abandoned and derelict boats, section 102-171 through 102-183.] ARE CONSISTENT. ORDINANCES FOR SECOND READING 2025 SLASH 51 IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND BUFORD COUNTY'S ORDINANCE CHAPTER 1 0 2 WATERWAYS ARTICLE FOUR ONLY ABOUT ABANDONED AND DERELICT BOATS. SECTION 1 0 2 TO 1 71 THROUGH 1 0 2 TO 180 3. AND YOU ALL COULD READ THAT THE VOTE OF PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SO ON. WE EVENTUALLY BIFURCATED THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO, UH, TAKE OUT THE ABANDONED VOTES. AND THAT IS WHAT'S UP FOR, DISCUSS THE MOTION RIGHT NOW. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION ON 20 25 51. SO MOVED. THANK YOU MR. CUNNINGHAM. I'LL SECOND THAT. MS. BROWN SECONDED. SO IT'S MOTIONED AND SECONDED. ANYONE HAVE A DISCUSSION FOR THE PUBLIC? WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS QUITE A BIT, BUT WE DID BIFURCATE IT TO TAKE OUT, UM, LEAVE THE WATERWAY OTHER PART ALONE, BUT TAKE OUT THE ABANDONED BOATS. THAT'S ALL I WAS GONNA COMMENT, COMMENT ON AND SAY THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, I'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS PART OF THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [15.b. 2025/52: An Ordinance recommending approval of the 2% State Accomodations Tax Awards as presented by the State Atax Committee.] ALRIGHT. 2025 SLASH 52 IS AN ORDINANCE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE 2% STATE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX AWARDS AS PRESENTED BY THE STATE TAX ATEX COMMITTEE AND THE VOTE IF FINANCE WAS SEVEN OH, AND THEN WE HAD A PUBLIC READ, A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, QUICK CORRECTION. YES MA'AM. PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE A THIRD READING. MM-HMM . GO AHEAD. WE MUST PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE A THIRD. READING, UH, THE YEAH. PUBLIC HEARINGS AT 30. SORRY. SO VOTED FIRST READING WAS 11 ZERO. PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE THIRD READING JANUARY 12TH. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT. MOTION BY MR. CUNNINGHAM. I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY MR. BARTHOLOMEW. ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION. [02:45:01] THIS IS FOR MY QUESTION. THIS IS YOURS. I KNEW IT. THIS IS WHERE MY QUESTION CAME IN. I'M READY. UH, GOING THROUGH MY EMAILS. UH, DID WE EVER ADDRESS THE FRIENDS OF HUNTING ISLAND FUNDING AT IT SAID THERE WAS SOME ERRONEOUS, UH, UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT INFORMATION WAS EVER TRANSMITTED. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS RELATED TO THE STATE AAX. YEAH. YEAH. I BELIEVE IT'S STATE AAX. THEY WERE NOT FUNDED. I THINK IT'S A PRIOR YEAR THAT THEY'RE APPEALING. AS FAR AS THE , THAT WAS NOT HUNTING ISLAND, THOUGH. THAT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE. ISLAND STATE PARK APPLIED FOR 25,000. BUT IN THE NOTE TO THE RIGHT IT SAYS, COMMITTEE CITED THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE FUNDED BY SOUTH CAROLINA STATE STATE PARKS. THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS THEY'RE NOT. OH, OKAY. AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, AND THEN WE, WE RECOMMENDED TO THEM OR NOT WE, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED TO THEM TO APPLY FOR LOCAL A AND H TAX. OKAY. THAT THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY WERE, THEIR COMMENTS WERE ADDRESSED. RIGHT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE WE'LL OPEN UP JANUARY ONE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT? OH YEAH. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS ADDRESSED. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT HAD BEEN, BEEN TALKED ABOUT. ANY OTHER COMMENT ON THIS ONE? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. FINANCE. SO WE'RE GOOD. ANYBODY GOOD? ANYBODY? MS. HARRIET'S THERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION YOU MIGHT HAVE? ALL RIGHT. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS ORDINANCE, RAISE YOUR HANDS PLEASE. THIS IS ATEX STATE AT TAX MONEY. IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING. OKAY. TOOK CARE OF THAT. PARDON ME? DID YOU WANT SOMETHING MR. GLOVER? NO, NO. I GUESS WE DIDN'T. I THOUGHT COMING OUT OF UM, YEAH, THAT MOTION EXECUTIVE SITE OUT OF UM, YEAH, BUT IT'S STILL IN ORDINANCE WE HAVE TO VOTE ON YES, I KNOW. DO YOU RECALL THAT AFTER CAUCUS YOU MADE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AGREEMENT THAT I NEGOTIATE WITH, UM, THE PARTIES. AND BASED UPON THAT MOTION, WE DO NOT RECOMMEND THAT YOU ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE. CORRECT. SO WE'RE WE HAVE TO VOTE IT DOWN, MAKE THE MOTION NOT CORRECT. SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE THE MOTION, WELL [16.a. 2025/50: An Ordinance to amend Ordinance 2022/46 authorizing the County Administrator to execute any and all documents necessary for the sale of County owned real properties identified as 1407 King Street and 600 Wilmington Street, City of Beaufort.] LET ME READ IT FIRST. SORRY. UM, 2025 SLASH 50 ORDINANCE TO AMEND ORDINANCE 2022 SLASH 46 AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE SALE OF COUNTY OWNED REAL PROPERTIES IDENTIFIED AS 1407 KING STREET AND 600 WILMINGTON STREET CITY OF BEAUFORT. THE VOTED NATURAL RESOURCES WAS SEVEN ZERO. SOMEONE MOTION PLEASE. UH, BECAUSE I THINK THIS PROPERTY'S GONNA BE SOLD, I DON'T THINK I WANNA MAKE A MOTION NOT TO SELL IT. SO, UM, I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD BE TABLED UNTIL YOU NO. OH, CAN WE COME BACK AT ANOTHER TIME? I'M SORRY. RECALL THAT THIS ORDINANCE WAS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING US TO AMEND THE PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENT FOR JUSTICE SQUARE. AND THE REASON WE BROUGHT IT BACK WITH THE ORDINANCE WAS TO, UH, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS FROM 39 TO 33. WE NO LONGER RECOMMEND THAT AND WE ARE STICKING TO THE 39 HOUSING UNITS AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL. SO THEREFORE THERE'S ONE OF TWO WAYS THIS COULD HAPPEN. IT COULD BE A MOTION TO DISAPP OR NOT APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE, OR IT JUST BE THAT YOU DON'T GET A FIRST AND A SECOND TO, UH, BRING IT TO THE FLOOR AND THEN IT JUST DIES. SO LET ME REPEAT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO BRING IT TO THE FLOOR? AND THAT'S ISLANDS. I'D SAY NO. OKAY. SO THIS ORDINANCES, ORDINANCE WILL DIE FOR LACK OF, UH, BRING IT TO THE FLOOR TO MOTION. YEAH. THANK YOU. [16.b. 2025/53: An Ordinance Authorizing the Acceptance and Possible Eminent Domain Associated with a Drainage Easement located in Rivers End Subdivision Identified as Open Area in Plat Book 59 at page 118.] 2025 SLASH 53 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE AND POSSIBLE EMINENT DOMAIN ASSOCIATED WITH A DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED IN RIVERS AND SUBDIVISION IDENTIFIED AS OPEN AREA IN PLAT BOOK 59 AT PAGE ONE 18, THE VOTED PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE WAS EIGHT ZERO. CAN I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. MS. HOWARD MAKES THE MOTION. I'LL SECOND I SECOND BY MR. CUNNINGHAM. SO 2025 SLASH 53 IS MOTION. AND SECOND. ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION OR DISCUSSION POINT? I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GETTING WHAT SAYS. OKAY, THEN I WILL ASK FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF 2025 SLASH 53. RAISE YOUR HAND. WAS THAT A YES, MR. GLOVER? YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE YOU. OKAY. LEFT HAND. IT'S UNANIMOUS. THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA, MR. GLOVER. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK GOD. HAVE MADE BY NINE O'CLOCK. YOU GO. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.