* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY [I. CALL TO ORDER] [II. ROLL CALL] [III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT] [VI. OLD BUSINESS] [1. 67-69 Green Street (Development Plan): A request by Nathan Sturre of Sturre Engineering, on behalf of Olympia Rymko for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan application. The project consists of two (2) mixed use buildings and one carriage house with associated infrastructure. The property is zoned Neighborhood Center - Historic District and consists of approximately 0.29 acres identified by tax map numbers R610 039 00A 0254 0000 and R610 039 00A 0385 0000 located on the northeast corner of boundary Street and Green Street. (DP01-25-019535) (Staff - Dan Frazier)] WORK FOR THIS PROPOSED USE AND ADDITION OF A DEDICATED LOADING PARKING SPACE THAT I'LL POINT OUT THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE FROM GREEN STREET AND ON PAVED ROAD WITH PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM BOUNDARY STREET, UH, 22 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENTS BEING PROPOSED, PROVIDING A 20 FEET OF DRIVE LANE ONTO THE PROPERTY. UH, THE PER THE UDO 11 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 11 HAVE BEEN PROVIDED. THERE'S AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT THAT'LL BE REQUIRED FOR THE CONCRETE APRON AND PAVER SIDEWALKS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE GREEN STREET RIGHT OF WAY, UNLESS THEY, UNLESS THEY REDESIGN THE, UH, SITE PLAN TO, TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE GREEN STREET RIGHT AWAY. UH, UDO SECTION 5 15 71 CALLS OUT THAT ALONG SECONDARY FRONTAGES, OFF STREET SURFACE PARKING LOT SHALL BE SET BACK MINIMUM OF 10 FEET FROM PROPERTY LINES ALONG PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY. THE SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU DOES NOT CONFORM TO THAT. AS SUBMITTED, I THINK THE, UH, APPLICANT HAS REWORKED THE SITE PLAN THAT MAKES THAT WORK. TAKE THE, PROVIDING THE 10 FEET THAT'S REQUIRED BY THAT UDL SECTION. UH, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. A LITTLE CLOSER UP THE, I MADE A REFERENCE TO A, TO A LOADING PARKING AREA HERE. THERE'S 11 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED. ONE CARRIAGE HOUSE. ORIGINALLY WE HAD ONE CARRIAGE HOUSE BEHIND EACH OF THE BUILDINGS. THIS IS THE PARKING APRON AND ACTUALLY SOME, SOME PAVERS, A, A PAVER SIDEWALK THAT ARE BOTH ENCROACHING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR GREEN STREET. I'LL LET THE, UH, APPLICANT, UM, UH, DISCUSS THAT FURTHER HERE. HERE IS THE LIVE OAK THAT'S BEING SAVED BY WIDENING SPACING BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS. I THINK THIS HAD A PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK AT ONE POINT GOING BETWEEN THE TWO THAT'S NOW ROUTED AROUND THE OUTSIDE. THIS IS THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION THAT, THAT WE WILL GO ACROSS TO CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF BOUNDARY STREET. UM, THE PEDESTRIAN ACT, UH, [00:05:01] DUMPSTER THAT WAS LOCATED UP HERE HAS BEEN REMOVED. THE 10 FOOT REFERENCE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS, IS 10 FEET BEFORE YOU GET TO ANY PARKING FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THAT WOULD BE HERE AND UP HERE. HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT'S PROVIDED WITH THE APPLICATION. I'LL NOTE THAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN WILL BE REVIEWED AS PART OF THE COFA HISTORIC DISTRICT APPLICATION ALONG WITH ARCHITECTURE AND LIGHTING REVIEW CRITERIA. THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION THREE TEN THREE A OF THE UDO IN ASSESSING AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THESE ARE THE CRITERIA, THE, THE STAFF REPORT AND THE PACKET SHOWS A RESPONSE TO CRITERIA. PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION. YOU CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED, APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS, TABLE THE APPLICATION, OR DO DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. SHOULD PLANNING COMMISSION CHOOSE TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, TOWN STAFF FINDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS SHOULD BE MET PRIOR TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL. THAT WOULD BE NUMBER ONE IS PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 10 FEET BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND PROPERTY LINES ALONG SECONDARY FRONTAGES. AND NUMBER TWO WOULD BE TO COORDINATE ALL UTILITY CONNECTIONS WITH THE TOWN AND UTILITY PROVIDERS TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH AN ONGOING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IN THE AREA. SO IT'S A PROJECT CALLED HISTORIC, UH, HD DISTRICT IMPROVEMENTS, SEWER AND WATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE AREA. ONE ONE OF 'EM PROVIDES, UH, IMPROVEMENTS GOING DOWN GREEN STREET. UH, WE HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION AND I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THE APPLICANT IS HERE SPEAK. SURE. GOOD EVENING. NATHAN URRY, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. WE ALSO HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE DESIGNER, RITA DOWDY AND THE DEVELOPER ERIC FRIEDLANDER HERE. UM, I WANNA START BY THANKING, UH, LYDIA AND WILL FOR MEETING WITH US AND KIND OF TALKING THROUGH SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS AND HELPING US TRY TO PUSH THIS TOWARDS FINAL. UM, I THINK DAN DID A GOOD JOB WITH HIS PRESENTATION. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO ADD, UM, IS WE, WE'VE BEEN ONGOING COORDINATION WITH BUFORD, JASPER, AND THE TOWN ON THE UTILITY CONNECTIONS. UM, THE, IT'S KIND OF LANDED ON WHO'S PAYING FOR WHAT AT THIS POINT. SO WE'RE JUST CLARIFYING THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, UM, I CAN SPEAK TO THE SIDEWALK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. THE UTILITIES HAVE TO COME TO THE PROPERTY LINE, SO IN ORDER TO ROUTE FOLKS AROUND THE STRUCTURE, IT WAS KIND OF THE ONLY WAY TO GET 'EM AROUND, LEAVE SPACE FOR THE UTILITIES AND PROVIDE THE STAIRWAY UP TO THE SECOND FLOOR. UM, OTHERWISE I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE. WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SINCE? YEAH, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, FOR DAN. UM, DO YOU HAVE A, A SITE DATA TABLE ON THE, UM, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE IS ONE. IT, IT'S, I THINK IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT. OKAY. AND, AND I'M ASSUMING THE CARRIAGE HOUSE WILL HAVE AN ENCLOSED GARAGE. YES, SIR. SO AGAIN, YOU ARE UTILIZING AN ENCLOSED PARKING SPACE IN THE CARRIAGE HOUSE FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE OR FOR THE TWO BUILDINGS? THE, THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT WAS THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE OF WHAT I'M GONNA CALL LOT ONE TO THE NORTH WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE GARAGE. THAT'LL BE THEIR PARKING. THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL WILL HAVE SPOT THREE OR TWO, THE REMAINDER WILL BE THE COMMERCIAL AND TWO ADDITIONAL FOR THE RESIDENCE FOR 60. SO THOSE COULD BE ASSIGNED THAT SUCH? YES SIR. YEAH. YES SIR. OKAY. THAT WORKS FOR ME. NO QUESTIONS FOR ME. UM, COULD WE GET THE LOADING AREA TO BE STRIPED SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THERE'S NOBODY PARKING THERE? ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE GONNA THROW A SIGN THAT SAID NO PARKING, BUT WE CAN STRIPE IT AS WELL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ONE, JUST, I'M SORRY, ONE OTHER QUESTION. GO AHEAD. THE, UM, THE PAVERS ARE ALL SAND OR PERVIOUS. UM, SO THE SIDEWALKS ARE GONNA BE SAND AND THE DRIVE VILE AND PARKING IS GONNA BE, YEAH. SO WE HAVE 16 INCHES OF ROCK BELOW THAT. YEP. A MOTION. I HAD ONE QUESTION. GO AHEAD. THAT SPLIT RAIL FENCE, WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HAVING THAT BE A PRIVACY FENCE? UM, WE FELT THAT WITH THE LANDSCAPING THAT WAS PROVIDED WITH OUR PLAN, [00:10:01] IT WOULD KIND OF LEND TO BLOCKING THAT OVER TIME. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE OPEN TO PROVIDING WHATEVER FENCE WE WILL SATISFY YOU GUYS. WHAT WAS YOUR PROPOSAL FOR THE, UH, POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO THE 10 FOOT SEPARATION? SO, UM, I SENT DAN OVER A SITE PLAN THIS MORNING SHOWING IT BASICALLY 11. SPOT 11 IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS ENCROACHING AND IT'S ABOUT FIVE FEET. SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE SHIFTED EVERYTHING UP TO, TO WHERE WE'RE WITHIN THE 10 FOOT AND THEN WE SHRUNK THE CARRIAGE HOUSE DOWN TO, TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE. OKAY. KNOWING THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS DID COME IN AT THAT FIRST MEETING, MICHAEL, SINCE YOU'RE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, DO YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SCREENING WITH THAT FENCE DESIGN, AT LEAST ALONG THE, UM, THE, THE BACK, NOT NECESSARILY ALONG THE STREET, BUT AT LEAST ALONG THE BACK SIX FOOT PRIVACY FENCE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT AT LEAST TO LIMIT PEOPLE COMING WALKING THROUGH AND WALKING INTO THAT PROPERTY. UM, I READ THE STRUCTURES HERE, SPLIT RAIL FENCE REALLY THAT'S JUST INVITING SOMEBODY TO CLIMB IT. AND I KNOW THERE'S LANDSCAPE, BUT THE THOUGHT OF MAYBE JUST HELPING WITH NOISE AND THEN LIGHT AND DETERRING PEOPLE FROM WALKING INTO THAT LOT, IT IS A RESIDENTIAL LOT. ARE YOU THINKING LIKE A SHADOW BOX KIND OF FENCE OR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE RIGID? THAT WOULD BE NICE. YEAH. IN ADDITION TO ALL THOSE LIBERUM OR IN IN LIEU OF, I'M JUST QUESTIONING. I MEAN, YOU COULD, YOU COULD SCALE DOWN THAT LANDSCAPE IF YOU'RE PUTTING A FENCE UP AND THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE COVID HD APPLICATION SINCE THAT'S WHEN LANDSCAPING GETS REVIEWED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO I HAVE A MOTION? IS THE MOTION BACK UP? YES. YOU GONNA ADD TO IT? I MOVE TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE 67 69 GREEN STREET PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 10 FEET BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND PROPERTY LINES ALONG SECONDARY FRONTAGES GREEN STREET AND HICKORY TRACE. COORDINATE ALL UTILITY CONNECTIONS WITH THE TOWN AND UTILITY PROVIDERS TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH ONGOING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND STRIPE THE PROPOSED BACK OUT PARKING SPACE FENCE. DO WE WANNA DO THAT AND REPLACE THE SPLIT RAIL FENCE ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE WITH A PRIVACY FENCE? SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. [1. Carport UDO Amendments (WORKSHOP - NO ACTION): Discussion, Consideration and Direction on Potential Amendments to the Town of Bluffton Code of Ordinances, Chapter 23, Unified Development Ordinance, Article 5 – Design Standards - Accessory Buildings (Staff -Angie Castrillon)] THANK YOU. SO THERE'S NO NEW BUSINESS DOING THE, UH, DISCUSSION, SO NO ACTION. JUST THE WORKSHOP ANGIE. UH, THANK YOU. UM, OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, UM, SPECIFICALLY CARPORTS IN THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT. UM, THIS ITEM HAS COME TO YOU BEFORE, WHEN AN OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT RESIDENT INITIATED A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE UDO TO ALLOW AN EXISTING STANDALONE METAL CANOPY CARPORT THAT WAS DIRECTED WITHOUT AN APPROVED CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS OR AN APPROVED BUILDING PERMIT AT THE TIME, HE DID ASK, UM, THAT WE INCLUDE REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES. SO THIS IS A STAFF LED UDO TAX AMENDMENT SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE UDO IN 2011 CARPORTS THAT ARE OVER 121 SQUARE FEET ARE CLASSIFIED AS CARRIAGE HOUSES. AND THEY MUST COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SPECIFIC BUILDING TYPE, INCLUDING NOT EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF 1,200 SQUARE FEET AND FOOTPRINT OF 800 [00:15:01] SQUARE FEET, AS WELL AS DESIGN REQUIREMENTS WHICH INCLUDE BEING SMALLER THAN THE MAIN STRUCTURE. UM, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, CARPORTS, UH, NOW CALLED CARRIAGE HOUSES ARE TYPICALLY SMALLER PREFABRICATED STRUCTURES. UM, AND MOST PRE 2011 ARE NON-CONFORMING UNDER THE CURRENT UDO, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW IN KIND REPLACEMENT IF THEY ARE DAMAGED OR DETERIORATED. THE UDL NOW DEFINES CARPORTS AS CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPE, FOCUSING ON DESIGN AND ONLY ALLOWING ONE PER LOT IN MOST ZONING DISTRICTS INCLUDING NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL. IF THE PROPERTY ALREADY HAS AN APPROVED CARRIAGE HOUSE, UM, AND ALLOWING AN ADDITIONAL ONE LIKE A CARPORT WOULD REQUIRE A UDO AMENDMENT IMPACTING ALL OF OLD TOWN. SO THIS HAS HAD SEVERAL, UH, WORKSHOPS THROUGH TOWN COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION. UM, AND JUST SOME POINTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP ARE THAT REGULATIONS SHOULD BE PRACTICAL AND NOT BURDENSOME TO LONG-TERM RESIDENTS. UM, SUCH AS HAVING FLEXIBLE STANDARDS FOR VARY LOT SIZES AND CONFIGURATIONS. CARPORTS SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED SEPARATELY FROM SHEDS OR CARRIAGE HOUSES AND UM, THEY SHOULD ADDRESS THE SCALE, SIZE AND HEIGHT SUPPORTING HISTORIC DISTRICT CHARACTER AND AVOIDING OVERWHELMING STRUCTURES. AND THIS, THESE ARE JUST SORT OF SOME IDEAS OF WHAT A UDO TEXAN WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, SOME ITEMS THAT SHOULD, YOU SHOULD CONSIDER ADDRESSING OUR SCREENING WITH LOUVERS LANDSCAPING, UM, WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD FIT TWO VEHICLES OR A BOAT, A GOLF CART, UM, WHAT KIND OF ORIENTATION YOU'D LIKE ON THE LOT AND WHAT LIMITATIONS IF ANY SHOULD BE MADE TO UTILITIES SUCH AS LIGHTING AND PLUMBING. UM, AND ALSO ENCOURAGING VISUAL DIVERSITY AND AVOIDING UNIFORMITY AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL USE ONLY AND NO COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. WHEN THIS, UH, PROPOSED UDO TAX AMENDMENT WENT TO TOWN COUNCIL IN AUGUST, UM, TOWN COUNCIL REQUESTED ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE MORE FEEDBACK ON THE POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS PRIOR TO ANY FURTHER ACTION, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE PRESENTING TO YOU AGAIN IN ANOTHER WORKSHOP. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT IS LOOKING FOR. INPUT AND DIRECTION . UM, THIS IS, THESE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT WE REALLY WANT YOUR INPUT ON. ONE BEING MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE SHOULD CARPORTS BE SUBJECT TO A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT BASED ON ZONING DISTRICT AND BUILDING TYPES. UM, AND LOT COVERAGE WOULD INCLUDE ALL IMPERVIOUS STRUCTURES OR SURFACES ENSURING SUFFICIENT OPEN SPACE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND THE PRESERVATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. UM, WE ARE ALSO THINKING ABOUT A NEW BUILDING TYPE TO BE DESCRIBED AS A CARPORT AND SOME EXAMPLES OF UM, ELEMENTS TO THAT IS ALLOWING ONLY UH, CARPORTS ON RESIDENTIAL LOTS WHERE AN EXISTING PRINCIPLE STRUCTURE ALREADY EXISTS. UH, RESTRICTING CARPORTS TO A MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT OF 600 SQUARE FEET SUBJECT TO DISTRICT SPECIFIC LOT COVERAGE LIMITS. UM, ESTABLISHING A HEIGHT LIMIT NOT TO EXCEED EITHER THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE OR 18 FEET, WHICHEVER IS LESS. UH, NOT PERMITTING ANY SOLID WALLS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO SIDES TO BE ENCLOSED WITH LOUVERS OR HORIZONTAL PANELS. LIMITED ELECTRIC SURFACE, NO INTERNAL PLUMBING, UM, PLACEMENT OF THE CARPORT AND POSSIBLY KEEPING IT AT LEAST 20 FEET BEHIND THE FRONT PLANE OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE AND UH, POTENTIALLY LIMITING HOW MANY CARPORTS CAN GO ON A LOT. UM, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT INCORPORATING ADDING MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE. UM, AND THIS IS JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, BUILDING TYPE REQUIREMENTS. UH, I WILL COME BACK TO THE SLIDE. IT IS A SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE DISCUSSED SO FAR, UM, AS SOMETHING FOR YOU TO LOOK OVER. SO THE NEXT STEPS AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING IS WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE FEEDBACK AND INCORPORATE IT INTO A DRAFT AMENDMENT AND WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND FOR YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL IN THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH IS OCTOBER 22ND AND THE TENTATIVE RIGHT NOW WE'RE [00:20:01] LOOKING AT TOWN COUNCIL FIRST READING IN DECEMBER FOLLOWED BY FINAL READING IN PUBLIC HEARING JANUARY 13TH, 2026. UM, AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I TALKED ABOUT IT ENOUGH, . OH, I LIKE IT. I HAVE COMMENTS BUT NOT QUESTIONS. . OKAY, WELL WE CAN DO THAT TOO. OKAY. I DO THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER CREATING A MINIMUM ROOF SLOPE. I THINK IF WE END UP WITH ONLY A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 18 FEET, IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT WE WILL GET APPLICATIONS FOR A FLAT ROOF 18 FOOT TALL STRUCTURE. AND TO ME THAT'S NOT VERY CONGRUENT WITH THE REST OF OLD TOWN AND THE UDO REQUIREMENTS FOR PRINCIPAL STRUCTURES. AND I THINK THAT BECOMES MUCH MORE OBTRUSIVE AND DOESN'T KIND OF MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF BEING SECONDARY TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. IF WE ALLOW A FLAT ROOF, UM, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE A FOUR AND 12 'CAUSE THAT IS KIND OF WHAT STARTS TO GET IT TO APPEAR AS THOUGH YOU HAVE A SLOPED ROOF ON IT. UM, AND NOT LOOKING ARCHITECTURALLY VERY FLAT. UM, AND I DO THINK IT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO COUNT TOWARDS THE LOT COVERAGE. MOST OF THESE LOTS HAVE BETWEEN LIKE 65 AND 80% AND I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO INCREASE THAT, UM, ANY MORE THAN WE ALREADY HAVE. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT 600 SQUARE FEET IS VERY LARGE. UM, I THINK, I MEAN YOU CAN PARK TWO CARS VERY EASILY AND 400 SQUARE FEET. UM, I THINK A LOT OF A 600 SQUARE FOOT, 18 FOOT TALL STRUCTURE COMPARED TO WHAT IS BUILT IN OLD TOWN IS GOING TO FEEL VERY, VERY LARGE COMPARED TO THE SCALE OF THE REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. UM, I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO GIVE FLEXIBILITY, BUT I WOULD JUST QUESTION IF THE FLEXIBILITY IS MAYBE STARTING AT A LITTLE BIT LESS OF A NUMBER, WHETHER THAT'S FOUR OR 500 SQUARE FEET. I JUST THINK IT'S A PRETTY LARGE, LARGE STRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY IF SOMEBODY HAS A HOUSE AND A CARRIAGE HOUSE AND A CARPORT. I THINK WE START TO GET A LITTLE BIT OUT OF SCALE WITH THAT. UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE MATERIALITY OF THE CARPORT NEEDS TO COMPLY WITH THE REST OF THE UDO AND NOT ALLOW DEVIATIONS FROM THAT WHICH WOULD ALLOW THOSE METAL CARPORTS. I DON'T KNOW WHY IF WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW CARRIAGE HOUSES OR MAIN HOUSES TO USE SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS, WHY WE WOULD WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT FOR A NEW BUILDING TYPE. UM, AND I THINK I SAW IN SOME OF THE TOWN COUNCIL COMMENTS MAYBE TALKING ABOUT HURRICANE RESISTANCE. I DO THINK, UM, UNDER THE BUILDING CODE, ANYTHING LESS THAN 200 SQUARE FEET TECHNICALLY DOES NOT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT. SO I DO THINK THE TEXT AMENDMENT SHOULD REQUIRE THAT NO MATTER WHAT, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A CARPORT, IT DOES HAVE TO HAVE LATERAL WIND RESISTANCE. SO THESE THINGS AREN'T BLOWING AROUND THE ROOF WOULD BE REQUIRED. YEAH. UM, AND I WOULD QUESTION IF WE WANT THAT TO BE HAVE THE SAME GUIDANCE AS CARRIAGE HOUSES IN TERMS OF WHERE IT CAN SIT ON THE LOT. LIKE I THINK CARRIAGE HOUSES HAVE TO BE TOTALLY BEHIND THE HOUSE, DON'T THEY? OR ARE THEY ALLOWED TO BE 20 FEET BACK? I BELIEVE IT'S THE 20 FEET BEHIND 20 FEET THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. AS LONG AS IT'S THE SAME FOR BOTH OF THOSE, I THINK THAT'S OKAY. SO LYDIA'S COMMENTS MADE ME THINK, SO THIS IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE IT'S A MAXIMUM OF 600 SQUARE FEET, IT'S A MAXIMUM OF 18 FEET, BUT THAT DOESN'T GUARANTEE IT, IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH A REVIEW OF HPC AND IT CAN, HPC CAN STILL SAY NO 600 SQUARE FEET, 18 FEET TALL, IT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BECAUSE IT'S NOT SECONDARY TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE OR IS THAT STILL THE CASE? OKAY, SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THOSE AREN'T GUARANTEED FOOTPRINTS, THEY'RE STILL SUBJECT TO APPROVAL UNDER THE KOFA. YEP. YES. THAT WILL BE SOMEWHAT SUBJECTIVE, BUT IT WON'T BE TRUE FOR THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT ARE GOVERNED BY THE UDO. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THAT'S CORRECT. I BELIEVE WE'RE, THIS IS EXCLUSIVE TO, TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. OKAY. I JUST THINK WE'RE GONNA GET AN AND WE CAN, WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANNA DO. BUT I DO THINK IF YOU ALLOW 600 SQUARE FEET AND 18 FEET IN THE LANGUAGE, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THOSE ARGUMENTS FROM THE HPC SIDE. I THINK SOME OF THEM WILL BE OBVIOUS, BUT THERE'S GONNA BE SOME. WELL, BUT THIS IS THE TEXT [00:25:01] OF THE CODE AND THERE IS SOME DISCRETION, BUT I DO THINK YOU'RE GONNA, THERE WILL BE, I CAN'T REALLY IMAGINE A SCENARIO UNLESS YOU HAVE LIKE A MULTI, AT LEAST LIKE AN ACRE LOT WHERE THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE SIZE STRUCTURE. UM, THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS. I I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU COMMISSIONER SAID. UM, I, I GUESS I HOPE WE'RE NOT DESIGNING SOMETHING FOR A ONE-OFF. I, WE SEE ONE PICTURE OF A VERY LARGE CLASS A MOTOR HOME AND WHAT CARPORT CONVEYS TO ME IS A CAR OR AN SUV OR A SMALL BOAT. IF, IF WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE CLASS A SUVS OR 40 FOOT BOATS, I FEEL THAT IS REALLY GONNA CHANGE THE CHARACTER WITH 18 FOOT HIGH AND 600 SQUARE FOOT CARPORTS. SO AGAIN, I I I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM FOR A ONE-OFF WHICH HAS STARTED THIS WHOLE THING OR IF WE'RE TRYING TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WOULD FIT WITH THE CHARACTER OF OLD TOWN GOING FORWARD. ANYTHING ELSE? AND I JUST WANNA REITERATE THESE NUMBERS AND THESE, UM, EVERYTHING SORT OF BULLETED IS JUST STAFF KIND OF GOING OFF OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR. SO WE WOULD LOVE MORE AND MORE PRECISE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK 400 IS A GOOD NUMBER TO GO WITH, UM, PLEASE LET US KNOW. DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD PROBABLY BE 400 OR LESS. 'CAUSE I THINK EVEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS AN RV, YOU CAN STILL DO THAT. YOU CAN FIT TWO CARS IN THAT YOU COULD FIT A CAR IN A GOLF CART OR AN OVERSIZED BOAT. PLUS YOU HAVE TO THINK, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS FOR THEM TO HAVE TWO VEHICLES ON THEIR LOT. YOU CAN HAVE AN 800 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT CARRIAGE HOUSE, WHICH IS MORE THAN ENOUGH TO PARK TWO VEHICLES, TWO AND A HALF VEHICLES. THE PORCHES ON YOUR CARRIAGE HOUSE DON'T COUNT TOWARDS THAT 800 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT. SO YOU CAN HAVE A CARPORT THAT IS ATTACHED TO YOUR CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT IS PART OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSE DEFINITION. AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO HAVE THIS EXTRA STRUCTURE. SO JUST THE LARGER THIS IS, YOU COULD END UP AND I'M, IF WE WANNA ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARK SIX UNDER ROOF VEHICLES PER LOT OR WHATEVER THAT WE CAN, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LEAVING IT OPEN TO, IN MY OPINION, IF YOU GO THAT WAY. 'CAUSE YOU CAN ALREADY GET PARKING UNDER ROOF WITH THE EXISTING UDO FOR THREE, THREE AND A HALF VEHICLES. SO YOU COULD HAVE SHED LIKE A SHED ROOF OFF OF YOUR CARRIAGE HOUSE CAR AS A CARPORT. MM-HMM . THE ONLY PROBLEM IS SOME OF THOSE SMALLER BOATS ARE LONG LONGER THAN 20 FEET IF YOU INCLUDE THE, THE TRAILER. SO YOU'VE GOT AN ENGINE AND TRAILER 30 FEET IS REALLY THE, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE 20 FEET WIDE. NO, NO, CERTAINLY NOT. BUT I MEAN IF YOU, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT, THEN JUST LOWER THE HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE. DON'T, DON'T LET IT BE 18. SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWING A 30 FOOT OR 28 FOOT WINNEBAGO TO BE STORED, YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S LOWER THE HEIGHT OF THE, THE STRUCTURE THEN, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE A BOAT, THEY HAVE A CENTER CONSOLE. I MEAN, AND THIS IS A, A FISHING TOWN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WATER TOWN, THEY CAN'T GET IN THEIR GARAGE BECAUSE THE GARAGE IS JUST TOO SHORT. I MEAN, UNLESS YOU GET A A $20,000 GARAGE DOOR TO FIT FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR BOAT. SO I MEAN THAT IS JUST TRYING TO, I DON'T WANNA SAY LIMIT, BUT JUST REALLY LIMIT THAT HEIGHT. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THESE LESS THAN 30 FOOT WINNEBAGOS STORED A, A STORAGE FACILITY FOR WINNEBAGO BASICALLY. WELL, AND I THINK EVEN IN 400 SQUARE FEET YOU COULD EASILY GET A 30 FOOT LONG STRUCTURE. YEAH. WITHIN THAT FOOTPRINT. I JUST STRUGGLED TO THINK OF A SCENARIO WHERE LIKE, WHY DO WE NEED AN EXTRA 600 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE? IT'S A BIG STORAGE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ALLOWED. AND A LOT OF THESE LOTS ARE 50 FEET WIDE, BIG AREA, TOTALLY COVERED IN STRUCTURES AS IT IS. UM, 30 BY 20 IS A BIG AREA TO STORE. YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE? SO DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN GIVE TO STAFF? AND THOSE ARE THE TWO, IT'S THE HEIGHT AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT THE HEIGHT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE SAY THE HEIGHT SHOULD BE? 18 FEET SOUNDS LIKE A LOT TO ME. AND, AND LOOKING AT THAT PICTURE, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT. IT IS 18 FEET IS HIGH AND, BUT I THINK EVEN TO ME WHAT'S [00:30:01] MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OVERALL HEIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT AT LEAST IS SOMEWHAT REGULATED BY THE EXISTING STRUCTURES ON THE LOT IS GONNA BE GIVING IT A ROOF PITCH. 'CAUSE I DO THINK A STEEPER PITCH THAT STARTS LOWER AND GETS UP TO WHAT YOU NEED IT TO BE IN THE MIDDLE WILL FEEL MUCH BETTER. AND KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE THAN TO DO SOMETHING WITH A LOW PITCH OR NO PITCH THAT'S AT WHATEVER THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS. UM, MOST WHAT, HOW TALL IS A CENTER CONSOLE BOAT? DO YOU KNOW? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD SAY ON A TRAILER. ON A TRAILER, I DON'T KNOW. 14 FEET. YEAH, MINE'S PROBABLY 14. YEAH. AND I THINK EIGHTEEN'S PROBABLY A DECENT HEIGHT AS LONG AS WE KEEP IN THE, BECAUSE YOU WANT A ROOF TO BE ABLE TO COME RIGHT UP BEYOND THAT. SO I'M NOT SO MUCH AGAINST THE 18 FEET SO LONG AS THE 18 FEET INCLUDES A MINIMUM ROOF SLOPE. I JUST THINK 600 SQUARE FEET IS A TREMENDOUS SIZE FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS PRE, WHEN THE UDO WAS CREATED. IT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED THAT THIS WOULD EXIST AT ALL. I THINK WHEN, WHEN WE'RE SAYING LIMITED POWER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING LIGHTING, MAYBE, MAYBE A COUPLE OF OUTLETS. NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. YOU KNOW, FOLKS WOULD WANT TO PLUG IN YOUR FANS OR CHARGING THINGS. RIGHT. CHARGING THINGS. SO, SO THAT'S THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE MEAN BY LIMITED POWER. SO WHAT, SO I THINK WHAT WE HEARD WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF 400 SQUARE FEET INSTEAD OF 600. UM, AND, UH, NO FLAT ROOFS MAYBE, UH, PROVIDE A ROOF PITCH OF FOUR 12 AS, UH, AS WHAT THE, THE MINIMUM ROOF PITCH. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD IF WE HEARD ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS. SERIAL TYPE. YEAH, THAT I THINK THE OTHER, AT LEAST FOR ME WAS JUST HAVING THE MATERIALS COMPLY WITH THE REST OF THE UDO AND THE SAME WITH ACCOUNTING TOWARDS THE LOCK COVERAGE. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 18 FEET, DOES THAT MEAN TO THE RIDGE HEIGHT? LIKE TO THE TALLEST POINT OF THE BUILDING. OKAY, SO I DID WANT TO PUT THIS SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LAST ONE I HAD UP LOOKED AT MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. UM, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER WAY THAT WE CAN VIEW THE UDO OEX AMENDMENT RATHER THAN HAVING IT BE ONE PER LOT. IT CAN JUST BE MEETING A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. AND THE REASON I WANT TO BRING THIS BACK UP AS WELL IS BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE AUGUST, UH, TOWN COUNCIL MEETING, WHETHER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT LOT COVERAGES AND POTENTIALLY ALLOWING MORE THAN ONE CARPORT IF A LOT IS LARGE ENOUGH FOR IT. ANYBODY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? MY CONCERN WITH ALLOWING MULTIPLE, AND AGAIN, IF THE LOT IS BIG ENOUGH AND HOPEFULLY IT'S ALL THE HPC WILL REVIEW IT, I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH HOW CLOSELY THINGS ARE GONNA START GETTING TOGETHER AND HOW MUCH UNDER ROOF AREA WE'RE PUTTING ON SOME OF THESE LOTS. DON'T THE LARGER LOTS ALREADY ALLOW MULTIPLE CARRIAGE HOUSES RIVERFRONT, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER LARGE LOTS BESIDES THE RIVERFRONT? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I WANT TO SAY THERE ARE NOT MANY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF RIVERFRONT. THAT WAS CONSIDERED WHEN THE UDO WAS MADE TO BEGIN WITH THAT THE LARGER LAWS ALREADY CAN HAVE TWO CARRIAGE HOUSES, SO NOW THEY CAN HAVE TWO CARRIAGE HOUSES AND A CARPORT. LIKE DO WE NEED MORE CARPORTS? SO IS THERE CENSUS ON LIMITING IT TO ONE CARPORT OR YOU GUYS STILL CUT UP IN THE AIR ON IT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LOTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT COULD HAVE A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE CARRIAGE HOUSE AND TWO CARPORTS AND STILL BE UNDER THE MAXIMUM COVER. BUT [00:35:02] I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT THERE CAN'T BE TOO MANY ONE TO ONE. I WOULD VOTE TO LIMIT IT TO ONE. I THINK I'D AGREE WITH THAT. I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW. I'M HAVING A HARD TIME LIMITING THE CARPORTS. IT, IT'S ALL COVERED UNDER THE MAXIMUM COVERAGE. SO WHAT IF YOU SAID, WELL I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TWO CARRIAGE HOUSES AT A CARPORT. I JUST WANT TWO CARPORTS. BUT YOU, YOU CAN HAVE A CARPORT THAT COUNTS AS A CARRIAGE HOUSE. LIKE A CARRIAGE HOUSE IS NOT A DEFINITION OF AN ACTUAL STRUCTURE. IT'S A DEFINITION OF A FOOTPRINT OF A BUILDING. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE ENCLOSED LIKE YOU'RE CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO BUILD A CARPORT. IT JUST COUNTS AS A CARRIAGE HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO THE LOTS, IF SOMEBODY SAYS I WANT NO ENCLOSED GARAGE SPACE, THEY CAN ALREADY BUILD A CARPORT RIGHT NOW IT JUST COUNTS AS A CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPE. SO THEY CAN ALREADY HAVE ONE IF THEY WANT ANOTHER ONE NOW THEY CAN HAVE TWO. SO IT'S REALLY JUST WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO WITH WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PUT UNDER ROOF. BUT CARRIAGE HOUSE IS NOT A, BECAUSE IT'S A FORM-BASED CODE. THAT'S JUST THE DEFINITION OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT IT IS NOT THAT IT MUST BE ENCLOSED WITH GARAGE DOORS OR HAVE HEATED SQUARE FEET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST AN 800 SQUARE FOOT MAXIMUM ENCLOSED FOOTPRINT. UH, SO WE WILL TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK. UM, AND JUST A REMINDER, WE'LL BE BACK OCTOBER 22ND WITH PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMENDATION. SO IF YOU DO THINK OF ANYTHING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN YOU ARE BE ABLE TO ADD IT TO A RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. NO OTHER BUSINESS. SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR WATCHING BEAUFORT COUNTY TV. THE THE COUNTY IS ONE OF THE OLDEST FORMS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THE UNITED STATES. EARLY SETTLERS FROM ENGLAND BROUGHT THE TRADITION OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO AMERICA. TODAY MORE THAN 3000 COUNTY GOVERNMENTS PROVIDE SERVICES THAT AFFECT ALMOST EVERY CITIZEN'S LIFE. SOUTH CAROLINA'S 46 COUNTIES ARE VERY REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW COUNTY GOVERNMENT HAS EVOLVED NATIONALLY. THE COUNTY UNIT IN SOUTH CAROLINA WAS REGARDED AS A LOCAL EXTENSION OF STATE GOVERNMENT, BUT A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM MOVEMENT IN THE EARLY 1970S LED TO THE SOUTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, PASSING THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LAW, ALSO KNOWN AS THE HOME RULE ACT. IN 1975, THE HOME RULE ACT GREATLY EXPANDED COUNTY AUTHORITY AND CHANGED THE NATURE OF COUNTY ORGANIZATION AND ADMINISTRATION TO WHAT WE KNOW TODAY. BEAUFORT COUNTY WENT FROM HAVING A BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO A COUNTY COUNCIL. MEMBERS OF THE 1975 COUNCIL INCLUDED CHAIRMAN ARTHUR HORN, VICE CHAIRMAN GRADY THAMES, LEROY BROWN, GARY FORDHAM, WILLIAM GRANT, HARRIET KEISLING, DAVID JONES, BILL MCBRIDE, AND BOOKER WASHINGTON. AS THE NEW COUNCIL SOUGHT TO DISTINGUISH ITSELF, COUNCIL MEMBERS DESIRED AN OFFICIAL SYMBOL THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE JURISDICTION'S IDENTITY AND UNIQUE CHARACTER COUNCIL APPOINTED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO UNDERTAKE THE TASK AND CARRY OUT A CONTEST FOR THE BEST COUNTY SEAL DESIGN. HARRIET K WAS A MEMBER OF COUNTY COUNCIL AND IT WAS HER IDEA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IDENTIFY OUR BEAUTIFUL BEAUFORT COUNTY. WE MET THEN UP AT, UH, I THINK IT WAS A CAROLINA BANK AND SOME YEARS AGO BACK THERE ON WEST STREET. AND THEN WE PUT 'EM IN PILES. YOU KNOW, LIKE, GOOD, BAD MAYBE UNTIL WE FINALLY [00:40:01] GOT IT DOWN TO THE ONE THAT WE NOW USE. COUNTY COUNCIL APPROVED THE SEAL COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH REFLECTED THE COUNTY'S HISTORY, TRADITIONS, AND NATURAL BEAUTY. THE SEAL'S COLORS OF BLUE AND GREEN REPRESENT THE COLORS OF THE COUNTY'S OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT WITH ITS MANY WATERWAYS, MARSHLANDS, AND MARITIME FOREST. THE FIVE IMAGES WITHIN THE SEAL DEPICTED SOME OF THE COUNTY'S DISTINGUISHING FEATURES. ANCIENT LIVE OAK TREES, THE SEAFOOD INDUSTRY, RICH NATURAL RESOURCES, AND A RARE MARINE ECOLOGY, LOW COUNTRY ARCHITECTURE AND MILES OF RIVERS, CREEKS, AND INLETS. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED. I THOUGHT IT ENCOMPASSED WHAT THE, WHAT WE AS A BODY WERE LOOKING FOR A SEAL THAT WOULD, WHEN YOU LOOKED AT IT AND JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, IT REALLY COVERS THE ASPECTS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY. SO HE DID A GOOD JOB OF BRINGING TOGETHER THE THINGS THAT WE, UH, WHOLE SO THERE AND WHAT WE REALLY LIKE ABOUT BEAUFORT COUNTY. COUNCILMAN BILL MCBRIDE WAS IN OFFICE WHEN THE CONTEST WAS HELD AND WAS PRESENT WHEN THE COMMITTEE REVEALED THE WINNING DESIGN. I THINK COUNCIL WAS ECSTATIC ABOUT IT. UH, WE THOUGHT THAT THE, THE SIMS ON THE SEAL REPRESENTED, UM, ASPECTS OF LIFE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THE ORIGINAL, UM, DRAFT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US WHERE YOU HAVE THE SHRIMP BOAT TODAY. INITIALLY, THAT WAS A PLEASURE CRAFT, A SAILBOAT AND YACHT TYPE BOAT. AND, UH, IT WAS CHANGED BY COUNTY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE FELT THAT THE SHRIMP BOAT WAS A BETTER REPRESENTATION, UM, OF A MORE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, ASPECT OF BEFORD COUNTY LIFE BECAUSE YOU HAD OTHER THINGS ON THE SEAL THAT REPRESENT THE PLEASURE AND RECREATION, THE FISHING AND THE BEACH. SO THEY THOUGHT THE SHRIMP BOAT, WHICH WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF BEAUFORD COUNTY CULTURE, SHRIMPING ESPECIALLY AT THAT TIME, WOULD BE REFLECTED ON THE SALE. THE WINNER OF THE CONTEST WAS AN ARTIST FROM HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THE LATE LEE PAYNE, WHOSE DESIGN WAS SELECTED FROM MORE THAN 126 CENTURIES SUBMITTED FROM AS FAR AWAY AS INDIANA AND TENNESSEE. HE WAS AWARDED $250 FOR HIS DESIGN. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE CAPTURED THE LEGACY OF OUTDOOR BEAUTY, CULTURE, AND HISTORY THAT HELPED TO DEFINE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF LIFE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. TO SEE MORE BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENTS GO TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARY HOMEPAGE AND CLICK ON THE LOCAL HISTORY TAB. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.