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I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ACCOMMODATION TAX ADVISORY BOARD TO ORDER.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA.
I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
UM, THE NEXT, UH, ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? UM, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS ANYONE WOULD, WOULD WANT TO MAKE ABOUT THE MINUTES OF THE LAST THREE MEETINGS? ANY COMMENTS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT? YES.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT.
UM, JUST I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO ALL THE APPLICANTS WHO HAVE PUT IN ALL THE TIME AND THE EFFORT AND ALL THE HARD WORK, BECAUSE WE SEE WHAT YOU DO.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY QUICKLY, THANK YOU.
UM, THANK YOU TO THE STAFF WHO MADE THIS A LOT EASIER FOR US THIS YEAR, UM, TO ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.
I MEAN, WE ARE UP HERE GETTING READY TO DISTRIBUTE ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS OR SO TO SOME VERY WORTHY ORGANIZATIONS.
BUT I, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THAT MONEY DOESN'T COME FROM NOWHERE.
IT COMES FROM THE LODGING INDUSTRY AND IT COMES FROM THE AT TAX FUNDS AND FROM, AND, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LAST FEW WEEKS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONTROVERSY OVER THAT.
AND, UM, IT'S VERY HARD TO BRING.
THIS MONEY DOESN'T JUST APPEAR, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HARD, HARD JOB TO BRING THAT MONEY HERE.
SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE LODGING FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THIS MONEY POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, JUST MY FEW, LITTLE COMMENTS, BUT THANK YOU ALL.
THIS HAS BEEN A TOUGH PROCESS AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
IF SO, I'LL, UH, I'LL, UH, ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETINGS FOR THE SEPTEMBER 25TH MEETING.
ALL SIGNIFY BY RAISING THE RIGHT HAND IF THEY APPROVE.
UH, SAME FOR THE OCTOBER 16TH MEETING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? MEETING THOSE MINUTES? MOTION.
UH, IF SO APPROVED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
UH, THE MEETINGS FOR THE OCTOBER 23RD MEETING.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? MOTION TO APPROVE.
AND, UH, I'LL RAISE THE RIGHT HAND IF THEY APPROVE.
UH, SO WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
WE'RE ONTO NEW BUSINESS, WHICH WILL BE THE REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 2026 ACCOMMODATIONS TAX GRANTS.
UM, WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR TO, UH, TO GIVE OUR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO TOWN COUNCIL OF HOW IT'S SPENDING, HOW THIS MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT, AND WHERE IT SHOULD BE INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS YEAR, WE HAD TO, UH, MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE YEARS THAT WE HAVE LESS MONEY THAN, UH, THAN IS NEEDED TO FULFILL ALL THE GRANT REQUESTS.
SO, UM, THERE'LL BE SOME, SOME, UH, UH, DEBATE UP HERE AS TO WHAT OUR PRIORITIES SHOULD BE.
AND, UH, IT SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING DAY.
MICHELLE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? LAST WAY? CAN
WE HAVE TWO OF OUR FORMER CHAIRS HERE TODAY.
AND JIM, ARE YOU BOTH HERE TODAY? SO, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE,
WE'RE, FEEL FREE TO SEND UP NOTES.
ARE YOU AWAKE NOW,
UM, WELL, GOOD MORNING, UM, VICE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE DONE EVEN UP UNTIL THIS POINT.
AND I'LL ECHO, UM, MEMBER X COMMENTS.
WE THANK EVERYBODY, ALL THE ATAC APPLICANTS, THE COMMUNITY AND THE INDUSTRY.
UM, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE WITHOUT 'EM.
SO, UM, IT WAS EVEN REALLY CHALLENGING FOR THE STAFF TO REVIEW THESE.
'CAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD ORGANIZATION.
OBVIOUSLY EVERY ORGANIZATION'S GOT GREAT THINGS GOING ON, AND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, LOVES THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD.
AND WE WANNA BE HERE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME.
AND WE WANT PEOPLE WHO VISIT HERE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME.
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YOU ARE TASKED WITH A VERY CHALLENGING JOB.UM, SO WE JUST ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO REVIEW THESE APPLICATIONS AS YOU, AS YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST MONTH AFTER THE HEARINGS.
YOU'VE HAD MORE INFORMATION NOW GIVEN TO YOU TO HELP YOU WITH THOSE EVALUATIONS TODAY.
UM, WE'RE HERE AS STAFF TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, HOWEVER, IT IS THE COMMITTEE'S ROLE TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'LL GO TO THE F AND A COMMITTEE AT THEIR NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING, AND THEN IT'LL BE FORWARDED FROM THERE TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL.
UM, DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN PARTICULAR ABOUT TODAY? YES.
COULD, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE, I KNOW THAT THE TOWN WENT THROUGH AND REVIEWED, UM, THE MAX GRANT, UH, AFFORDABLE AND HAD A PROCESS TO DO THAT.
COULD YOU MAYBE EXPLAIN TO, UH, NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE HERE WATCHING, BUT ALSO THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND, AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO THE, TO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY? SORRY, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE, UH, THE PROCESS YOU WENT THROUGH TO GET TO THE NEW MAX AMOUNT ALLOWABLE? UM, AS FAR AS THE AAX GRANT AWARDS GO, AND THEN ALSO, UM, I THINK MAYBE EXPLAIN YOUR PROCESS AND WHAT THE NEW NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS ALLOWABLE GRANTS.
SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S, THERE'S A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S KINDA ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO THE MAIN NUMBER THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE $4,076,992.
AND THAT IS THE MONEY THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO THE, A TAX GRANT AWARDS PER THE TOWN'S NEW DISTRIBUTION POLICY FUND, DISTRIBUTION POLICY THAT YOU GUYS WERE ALREADY AWARE OF.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE NUMBER OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF GRANT REQUESTS THAT CAME IN THIS YEAR, WHICH WAS A LITTLE LIKE 4.6, A LITTLE OVER 4.6 MILLION.
UM, WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, IS INFORMATION BASED UPON WHEN WE REVIEWED THE APPLICATIONS, WHAT'S ALLOWABLE PER TURK REQUIREMENTS, WHAT'S ALLOWED PER THEIR BUDGET BASED UPON THEIR TOURISM PERCENTAGES.
SO THERE'S A, A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS IN THERE.
SO WHEN WE TOOK ALL THAT INTO ACCOUNT, THAT'S THAT NEW COLUMN THAT YOU SEE TO HELP YOU OUT IN YOUR EVALUATION SO THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT IS THE MAX ALLOWED PER TUR AND WHAT'S THE MAX ALLOWED PER THEIR BUDGET IN TOURISM METRICS.
JUST TO HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT, STREAMLINE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR YOU.
UM, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BUDGET REQUEST THAT'S MORE, BUT THE BUDGETS, WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR BUDGETS, WE HAVE TO MATCH THAT UP.
SO, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY KEEP REMINDING WE HAVE TO REPORT BACK TO THE STATE, SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THAT BUDGET MATCHES THE REQUEST.
AND SO IF THAT BUDGET, JUST FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEIR BUDGET IS LESS AND IT DOESN'T MATCH WHAT THE REQUEST IS, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T AWARD MORE THAN WHAT THEIR BUDGET SHOWS.
SO THOSE ARE THOSE NUMBERS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THERE.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS YOU GO ALONG, WE PUT A COUPLE NOTES IF THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS IN THERE.
THOSE ARE THE NOTES THAT ARE LEFT.
THERE WERE NOTES FROM THE LAST REPORT FOR YOU, AND THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN ADDRESSED, WHICH IS WHY YOU DON'T SEE THOSE THERE.
WE, WE CONTACTED THE APPLICANTS AND, AND WENT AHEAD AND ADDRESSED THOSE CONCERNS FROM THE APPLICANT HEARINGS.
SO WE UPDATED THAT, THAT REPORT FOR YOU TO SHOW THAT, UM, AS YOU HAD CHANGED THE MAX AMOUNTS ALLOWABLE BY LOOKING, BY COMPARING WITH YOUR BUDGETS, WAS EACH ORGANIZATION NOTIFIED THAT, THAT THAT WAS, WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANY AMOUNTS.
ALL WE DID WAS EVALUATE BASED UPON THE TUR GUIDELINES AND THEIR BUDGET AND THEIR TOURISM METRICS.
WE DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE ANY AMOUNTS AT ALL.
NOW PER THOSE ALLOWANCES, AFTER ALL THE INFORMATION WAS TAKEN FROM THE HEARINGS AND THEY RESUBMITTED ANY KIND OF INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS REQUESTED, THAT'S ALL THAT WAS, WERE, WERE THE ORGANIZATIONS MADE AWARE THAT IT AFFECTED? YES, YES.
UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROCESS OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL GRANT REQUEST TOTAL AND WHAT IS IT NOW? SINCE
AND SO WHEN YOU CALCULATE THE TOTALS BASED UPON WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED BY TURK AND WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED BY THEIR BUDGETS, NOW IT'S, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 180,000, LIKE SHORT OF WHAT THE NUMBER IS THAT YOU NEED TO GET TO TODAY.
SO WE HAVE TO CUT BASICALLY $180,000 TO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS.
VERSUS, WHAT WAS IT BEFORE? IT WAS ALMOST 600,000 MM-HMM
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, THOSE EVALUATIONS ARE SO KEY IS YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT ALL TUR, YOU KNOW, IS, IS STIPULATING IN THEIR GUIDELINES.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THAT AND EVALUATE IT BASED UPON THE APPLICANT'S SUBMISSION, ENTER LAW, THEN THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE TODAY AFTER THE HEARINGS AND AFTER THE, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST THAT WE DID SUBMIT TO THE APPLICANTS TO GIVE BACK MORE INFORMATION TO HELP THEM OUT, THEN NOW THIS IS THE FINAL PRODUCT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MICHELLE? THANK YOU.
QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG? YOU'RE WELCOME.
UM, BEFORE WE, UH, START AT THE TOP OF THE LIST HERE
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AND START TO GO THROUGH, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, I WANTED TO, BECAUSE THIS MEETING MIGHT LAST, UH, A COUPLE OF HOURS, I WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE MOVED TO THE FRONT OF THIS MEETING.I'LL ALLOW AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE END AS WELL.
UH, IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.
WOULD ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT? NO.
WELL, I GUESS WE WILL START WITH THE, UH, FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS AND, UH, WE'LL START AT THE TOP OF THE LIST WITH THE ART LEAGUE OF HILTON HEAD.
UM, DO I, UH, FIRST, UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON THEIR ASK? AND, UM, IF NOT, THEN DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR A GRANT? THEIR ASK IS FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, I BELIEVE.
UH, 80,000 OF IT WAS FOR, UH, MARKETING AND 20,000 WAS FOR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BUILDING ON POPE AVENUE.
I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WAS 20,000 GONNA BE ENOUGH FOR THEM TO DO THE REPAIRS THAT THEY BROUGHT TO, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY BROUGHT IN THE PRESENTATION, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT CAUSE AND IT, AND IT BRINGS, IT BRINGS, UH, TOURISTS IN.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS THAT, IS THERE ENOUGH? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T RECALL US BEING TOLD OF, OF SOME SORT OF SECONDARY FUNDING THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD.
SO SOMEONE UP HERE MIGHT HAVE PICKED UP ON THAT.
I DIDN'T HEAR OF ANY, BUT I, I REMEMBER THAT THE, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN IMPROVEMENTS WAS TO MAKE IT, UH, HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I RECOMMEND WE, UH, WE AWARD THE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IS THERE A SECOND? CAN YOU COUNT ON THAT RECOMMENDATION? I'LL SECOND.
SO, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, IF AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER THAT YOU ALL AGREE ON, I PLUG IT IN AT THE END, YOU SEE WHERE WE ARE, THERE ARE NUMBERS ON THE SIDE.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ONCE YOU PLUG IN A NUMBER, IT WILL REDUCE.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN GO TO THE SECOND ROUND.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON EACH ONE.
UH, I, I, BEFORE, UH, WE GO ON WITH THAT, I, I JUST WANTED TO, TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY WITHIN THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO SAY WE WOULD GIVE $70,000 FOR THE MARKETING AND $20,000 WOULD BE EARMARKED FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BUILDING.
SO IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THE OVERALL SUM.
WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE HAD DONE THAT IN THE PAST ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT I KNOW THAT IT IS ALLOWED.
SO, UM, WE'RE STILL WITH THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, THE FULL FUNDING.
LET'S PLUG IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS RIGHT THERE.
THE NEXT IS THE ART CENTER OF COASTAL CAROLINA.
THEIR ASK IS FOR $447,000 THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATION? I WOULD RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND? THE NEXT WOULD BE THE BEACH CAT SAILS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, WHICH IS A NEW, UM, ORGANIZATION.
I BELIEVE THEY HAD AN EVENT THIS PAST WEEKEND, LOOKED TO BE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.
UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO, UM, GET THEIR ORGANIZATION AND THEIR, AND TO PLAN FOR FUTURE EVENTS TO GET THEIR ORGANIZATION UP AND RUNNING.
UM, DO I HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT? YEAH, I, I STRUGGLE WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S ON THE BEACH, SO IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO MEASURE HOW MANY TOURISTS ARE ACTUALLY THERE TO OBSERVE THIS PARTICULAR EVENT.
UM, I ALSO STRUGGLE WITH THE FACT THAT IT'S DURING THE WEEKEND OF CONCOURSE, SO IT'S ALREADY BUSY.
A LOT OF ROOMS COMING INTO ON THE ISLAND FOR CONCORD.
SO YEAH, I, THERE'S NO DOUBT IT'S A GREAT EVENT, BUT, UH, I, I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS HOW MUCH MONEY WE ALLOCATE.
IF ONLY ASKED FOR, I, I BELIEVE $20,000 FOR MARKETING, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
SO I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH $20,000 FOR THIS EVENT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT RECOMMENDATION? I, I'D LIKE THOUGHTS? I, I WOULD LIKE TO, I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON IT.
UM, I, UH, RIDE MY BIKE DOWN THE BEACH EVERY DAY AND
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I WENT BY IT EVERY DAY LAST WEEK.SO I SAW THAT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IMPRESSED ME WAS THE ORGANIZATION OF IT, BUT ALSO THAT IT, IT'S USING OUR RESOURCES.
IT'S ON THE BEACH, IT'S USING THE WATER.
UM, THE PEOPLE CAME FROM ALL OVER.
I THINK HE GAVE US SOME UPDATED NUMBERS HERE RECENTLY.
AND, UM, AND IT'S RIGHT THERE IN KAGEY.
I BELIEVE THEY ALL STAYED AT THE, UH, AT THE BEACH HOUSE.
SO, TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE AN UP AND COMING, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE TOURISM.
I I, I KNOW THE PEOPLE WERE COMING FROM ALL OVER, NOT JUST THE US.
I KNOW THEY HAD, I EVEN SAW THEY BROUGHT IN SOMEBODY FROM AUSTRALIA.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S A UP AND COMING OPPORTUNITY.
AND AS WE LOOK AT NEW, I'M THE NEW GUY ON HERE, SO I'M GONNA LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND I OFFER A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
BUT, UH, THE BUSINESS GUY IN ME SAYS THAT AS WE LOOK AT THESE NEW OPPORTUNITIES, IT MAY MEAN THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO CUT SOME PLACES THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVING FULL FUNDING TO EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND NOT, NOT EVERY, THERE'S A COUPLE OF NEW, OTHER NEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT I WON'T BE SAYING THE SAME WORDS TO TODAY, BUT WITH THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, I LOVE THAT IT'S USING THE RESOURCES.
IT'S ON THE BEACH, IT'S USING THE BEACHFRONT HOTEL.
IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE HEART OF THE TOURIST AREA, RIGHT? OUR PRIMARY TOURIST AREA.
UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE CONCOURSE DATES.
I THINK WE RUN INTO THAT WITH A LOT OF OUR EVENTS IN, IN TOWN.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK IT DRAWS A DIFFERENT, A A DIFFERENT CROWD AND A DIFFERENT TOURIST ANYWAY.
SO IT'S MY OPINION, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD RECOMMEND FULLY FUNDING IT BECAUSE I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY, THE UPSIDE IS PRETTY HIGH ON IT.
AND IT COULD BE A NEW, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE A NEW CONCOURSE FOR HILTON HEAD.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? HMM.
UM, I, I KIND OF WENT MIDDLE OF THE ROAD ON, I THINK IT'S A GREAT EVENT AND I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF SOME INVESTMENT.
AND SO THE NUMBER I HAVE FOR IT WAS $40,000.
UM, SO I WAS IN BETWEEN, UH, THE BOTH OF YOU.
'CAUSE IT, THE FACT THAT IT'S NEW, I FIND IT TO BE GOOD.
BUT THE, THE FACT IS THAT ALL THE APPLICANTS HAVE CAN MAKE COMPELLING STORIES.
WE TALKED RIGHT OUT OF THE GATES ABOUT THE ART LEAGUE LOOKING AT, AT, AT THE, UH, IMPROVEMENT OF THEIR ACCESSIBILITY FOR HANDICAP.
I MEAN, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE, THESE APPLICANTS DID SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB MAKE GIVING US COMPELLING STORIES.
AND THIS ONE, THE FACT THAT IT'S NEW, UM, I, THEY THINK THEY DO NEED A BOOST.
AND I THINK MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO IT AT HALF OF WHAT THEY'VE ASKED AT 50,000, WHICH IS A THIRD NUMBER
SO WE HAVE ONE FOR 20, ONE FOR FULL FUNDING AT A HUNDRED, ONE FOR 50 AND ONE FOR 40.
I'LL TALK, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THE 50 I, IT'S A GREAT EVENT AND IT'S GOOD TO BRING A NEW ONE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO SEE HOW IT WORKS GOING FORWARD.
CECILE IS, UH, IS RECUSED FROM THIS DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR A 50,000? I'D BE HAPPY WITH 50.
JUST AS A REMINDER, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU ALL COULD MAYBE PULL YOUR MICS A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU.
JUST SO PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE ONLINE CAN HEAR.
THE NEXT IS, UH, COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY.
UM, THEIR ORIGINAL ASK WAS $16,000 AND THE MAX AMOUNT ALLOWABLE, THE NEW MAX AMOUNT ALLOWABLE FROM THE TOWN IS 15,960.
UM, ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS EVENT WAS JUST FOR CLARITY? WAS THIS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE JERSEYS AND YES.
SO THAT WAS STRICTLY, SO STRICTLY FOR THAT EVENT.
IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THIS IS, UH, MORE OF A LOCAL EVENT FOR, FOR RESIDENTS.
UH, SO I ACTUALLY, UH, THOUGHT ON MY, I I WAS MORE A PROPONENT OF WAIT AND SEE WITH THIS ONE AND NOT, UH, ALLOCATE ANY FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR, FOR THIS COMING YEAR.
ANYONE ELSE? I, I ACTUALLY AGREE.
I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT IT'S BRINGING OUTSIDERS IN.
IT'S, IT'S 88%, UH, LOCAL ATTENDEES.
I, I, I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY, WE SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
'CAUSE I THINK THEY'LL HELP THEM, UH, WITH THE POTENTIAL OF THE EVENT.
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I, I'D LIKE TO SEE US, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM SOMETHING.UM, BUT I THINK, UM, WITH SOME ADVICE MAYBE IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE GROWN OUTSIDE OF HILTON HEAD.
I WAS, I WAS FRANK ABOUT WHEN I WAS, WHEN, WHEN THEY PRESENTED TO SAY THAT I TRIED TO GET TICKETS TO IT AND I COULDN'T GET TICKETS TO IT, SO IT WAS SOLD OUT, WHICH WAS GREAT.
UM, I JUST THINK, UM, FOR THEM TO GROW IT OUTSIDE OF HILTON HEAD, WE'LL TAKE SOME WORK AND HOPEFULLY COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF LOW COUNTRY CAN HELP THEM WITH THAT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE 'EM HAVE SOMETHING.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER? WE HAVE ONE RECOMMENDATION FOR, FOR NO FUNDING AND THEN 8,000.
UM, THIS, THIS ORGANIZATION, I LOOKED AT IT, I, I LOOKED THEM UP ON THE WEBSITE.
I LOOKED AT ALL THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA.
IT'S A GREAT, IT HAS A GREAT PURPOSE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S PARTICULARLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA DRAW A LOT OF TOURISTS TO THE AREA, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TRY TO DO.
I WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT IT IN SOME FASHION.
BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE CUTTING MONEY THIS YEAR, I ACTUALLY ALLOTTED ZERO FOR THIS ONE.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND NO FUNDING FOR THIS.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? YEAH, LET'S BE, NOT TO BE CONTRADICTORY, BUT IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF ADDING HEADS AND BEDS.
YEAH, BECAUSE IF WE PUT THAT, IF WE PUT THAT TEST TO EVERY, TO ALL 37, I THINK WE, WE WOULD BE DEBATING HERE FOR MONTHS.
SO I, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO NEED TO TAKE SOME OF THE CULTURAL THINGS IN, IN, IN, INTO, INTO OUR THOUGHTS.
AND, UM, AND I, AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY CAN GROW IT.
AND I THINK JUST OFFERING THEM SOME HELP.
UM, NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF REDUCED THE NUMBER A LITTLE BIT ANYWAY, I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST INITIALLY MAYBE START WITH $8,000.
COULD, COULD I RECOMMEND WE, WE RECOMMEND $5,000 AND, AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT 88% OF, OF, OF, UH, ATTENDEES BEING, UM, LOCAL RESIDENTS BE, BE IMPROVED UPON WITH SOME, UM, INITIATIVES THAT ARE, WOULD PRODUCE THAT TYPE OF RESULT OF, OF AN IMPROVED RESULT OF THAT STATISTIC.
SO WE GIVE THEM SOME SUPPORT, BUT NOT UNTIL THEY GET THAT, THOSE, THAT DATA UP THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
HOW DO THE OTHER MEMBERS FEEL ABOUT $5,000? I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT.
IF, IF I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT IT.
CECILIA, I, I GUESS I CAN GO ALONG WITH THAT.
I WOULD, I WOULD ALMOST RATHER MOVE IT TO THE END AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT THE END AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY MONEY BACK OVER.
WELL, LET'S HIGHLIGHT THAT ONE PERSONALLY AND, AND, UM, WE CAN REVISIT IT BECAUSE, UH, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE MORE THAN ONE PASS.
UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH NOT FUNDING THIS ORGANIZATION.
I'M ALSO COMFORTABLE WITH GIVING THEM A CHANCE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY CAN DO AS FAR AS ATTRACT TOURISM FOR $5,000 IN MARKETING, BUT, UM, IT MIGHT BE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW SOME RESULTS.
ADDITIONALLY, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO ALSO BRING UP, UM, WHAT MR. FARRELL WAS SAYING AND, AND REMIND EVERYBODY OF THE, THE TOWNS ATEX, UH, CATEGORY CHEAT SHEET.
AND, UH, CATEGORY ONE OF COURSE IS TOURISM, MARKETING AND ADVERTISING.
UH, TWO PROMOTION OF TOURISM RELATED EVENTS AND FESTIVALS, TOURISM RELATED FACILITIES, PUBLIC SERVICES, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND WATERFRONT EROSION CONTROL AND REPAIR.
SO, UH, WE SHOULD ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT THE, UM, IT IS MORE ABOUT MORE THAN HEADS AND BEDS.
UM, FOR ME, THIS, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ORGANIZATION SHOW MORE OF A TOURIST, UH, ATTRACTION BEFORE I WOULD FUND IT.
BUT, UM, I'M WILLING TO PUT IN $5,000 AND REVISIT IT AT THE END.
IS, IS, WHO'S AMENDABLE TO THAT? ADRIAN? STILL NO.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA, WE'LL REVISIT AT THE END AND WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.
SO I GUESS, UH, UNLESS YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A VOTE ON IT, WHY DON'T WE PLUG THE 5,000 IN AND SEE WHAT WE COME OUT IN THE END WITH.
LET'S, WE'LL PLUG IN $5,000 THERE.
THE NEXT IS THE DAVID M CARMINES MEMORIAL FOUNDATION.
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201,009 $95.UM, AN INCREASE OF $16,000 ROUGHLY OVER LAST YEAR'S ASK.
SO THIS COMMENTS, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE I STRUGGLE WITH BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE COMBINED WITH NATIVE ISLAND FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THEY BOTH HAVE INCREASES IN THEIR BUDGET FOR, FOR THAT MAIN EVENT, UH, WITH REGARDS TO A DRAW ON TOURISTS.
UM, SO I'VE, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT BOTH OF 'EM TO, TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GIVE THEM A, A REASONABLE INCREASE WITHOUT BREAKING THE BANK, SO TO SPEAK.
SO, UH, AT, AT THIS POINT, I, I WOULD SUGGEST WE KEEP THEM TO WHAT WE, UH, THEY WERE AWARDED LAST YEAR, 180 5, UH, UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT NATIVE VIOLENT AND SEE WHERE WE END UP.
CEIL, YOU HAD AN IDEA? NO, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE COMBINING WITH THE NATIVE ISLANDER.
I THINK THEY'RE JUST SORT OF CO RESOURCING IN A WAY.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, I MEAN, I LOVE THE IDEA THAT, UH, THIS FESTIVAL IS CREATING THAT GULLAH VILLAGE.
I THINK THAT IS JUST GENIUS AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE PUT TO USE ALL OVER THIS ISLAND.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WANNA BACK UP JUST ONE SECOND HERE.
I MEAN, WE ALL APPROACH THIS TODAY THINKING THAT WE WERE CUTTING $600,000 OFF OF THIS BUDGET.
SO ALL OF OUR NUMBERS INDICATE THOSE REDUCTIONS.
SO NOW WE'RE SITTING UP HERE TRYING TO RECALCULATE EVERYTHING RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
SO I THINK GIVEN THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE ARE BACK TO ALMOST FULL FUNDING WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY WITH, I WOULD GIVE THEM FULL FUNDING AND, AND SAY THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITION OF THE GULLAH.
AND I DON'T SEE THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS AS BEING, I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER.
YEAH, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE A COM.
NO, NO, THAT'S NOT, I'M SORRY IF, IF THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY IT CAME ACROSS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I INTENDED TO SAY.
I WAS SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO THE FESTIVAL MM-HMM
WHERE THEY WERE COMBINING EFFORTS OR FORCES FOR THE FESTIVAL.
THE, THE MARKETING EXPENSE FOR THOSE, FOR THAT FESTIVAL.
WHICH, WHICH I HASTEN TO ADD IS AS WAS, UH, I DON'T THINK IT WAS DONE EXCLUSIVELY BECAUSE OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT THIS BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED, HISTORICALLY, OUR, OUR CHAIRMAN THAT COLLABORATIONS ARE INCLU, ARE ENCOURAGED.
WE REALLY, BECAUSE THERE'S SIX OR EIGHT DIFFERENT FELLOW RELATED ORGANIZATIONS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION TO BE COST EFFICIENT AND MAKE THESE MONIES HAVE A GREATER REACH.
I THINK WE APPLAUD THEM FOR DOING EXACTLY THAT.
WELL, I TOTALLY AGREE, EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY APPEAR TO WORK THAT WAY BECAUSE IN THIS COLLAB COLLABORATION, BOTH ARE REQUESTING INCREASES IN, IN, IN GRANTS.
SO I DON'T SEE THE, THE BENEFIT.
SO THAT WOULD LOGICALLY SAY THAT WE GO FROM A 180 5 TO SAY A ONE 90 FOR THE FIRST ROUND PLACEHOLDER.
YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT DOUBLE MARKETING COSTS.
I THINK THE COLLABORATION IS GREAT.
I THINK SOME, WITH SOME OF 'EM THAT MY ADVICE WOULD BE SOME MORE ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
SO IF THEY'RE GONNA CO-MARKET RIGHT? COMING FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF MARKETING MONEY, IF YOU'RE GOING BE DOING SOME CO-MARKETING, OBVIOUSLY WORKING SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE, WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE OVERALL ASK, I WOULD HOPE.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T, UH, MANDATE THAT FROM HERE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY RECOMMEND THEY LOOK AT THAT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CASE WHERE IT'S GREAT, THERE'S GONNA GET TOGETHER AND ONE OF THE EVENTS, THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING TOGETHER MM-HMM
UM, SO THERE IS A OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO, TO, UH, COORDINATE THEIR MARKETING EFFORTS AND POTENTIALLY REDUCE THEIR OVERALL MARKETING BUDGET.
SO I WOULD BE FOR A SMALL REDUCTION, UM, PROBABLY IN BOTH OF 'EM.
UM, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? WHAT WOULD BE YOUR NUMBER THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND? DAVE? I, I, I ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME NUMBER AS LAST YEAR, 180 5, BUT I'D BE THE ONE NINETY'S FINE FOR ME.
I HAD 180 5, BUT THAT WAS BASED ON US DOING CUTS.
SO IF WE'RE NOT GONNA DO CUTS, I WOULD RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
I HAVE LAST YEAR'S NUMBER, 180 5.
UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ONE 90, UM, IN UPPING THEIR BUDGET AT $5,000, WHICH WOULD BE STILL BE, UH, $11,000 UNDER THE ASK.
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I HAVE CON I MEAN, I, I, I SEE, UH, ADRIAN'S POINT ABOUT THE, UH, DOUBLE MARKETING.UM, I GUESS AT THAT POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THIS AFTER WE, UM, LOOK AT THE OTHER APPLICATION THAT'S RELATED TO THIS.
AND, UH, WE'D HAVE TO CONSIDER WHO HAS MORE EFFECTIVE MARKETING IS WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD GO.
WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT, ADRIAN? YES, SIR.
SO IF WE PUT IT IN ONE 90 FOR NOW, AND WE LOOK AT THOSE AT THE SECOND PASS, I, WE THINK MICHELLE WANTS TO SAY SO.
JUST A REMINDER, UM, THE APPLICANT REMINDED ME TOO.
UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION, IT'S HARD TO, TO KEEP EVERYTHING KIND OF STRAIGHT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE COLLABORATING.
YOU KNOW, THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS, GREAT DISCUSSION.
UM, SO AS A REMINDER, I'M GONNA STEP BACK FROM THIS THING.
THE DAVID CARMINE'S MEMORIAL FOUNDATION WAS TASKED WITH THE MARKETING PORTION OF THAT, THE, WITH THE GULLAH VILLAGE AND NCA, THE GULLAH, THEY WERE IN CHARGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PART OF IT.
SO THEY DID SEPARATE WHAT THE REQUEST WAS FOR, JUST TO HELP GIVE MORE DEFINITION TO THAT.
UM, WELL, THAT BEING SAID, THEN, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD LOOK AT 1 90, 1 95.
DOES ANY, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? AFTER, UH, MICHELLE MICHELLE'S STATEMENT? I THINK WE DEFENSE, WE PENCIL IN THE ONE 90 AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END.
WE'LL GO WITH ONE 90 RIGHT THERE.
THE GOMAN MUSEUM OF HILTON HEAD IS UP NEXT.
THEIR ASK IS $180,000 THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
UM, IT'S, IT, IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION.
I THINK WE ALL GOT A LITTLE CLARIFICATION IN THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE, I AT LEAST DISCOVERED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ROLE OF, UM, THE ROLE OF THE, THE LEADER OF THE ORGANIZATION.
I, I'M A, I I JUST CAN'T QUITE WRAP MY HEAD AROUND EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND, AND WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO OVER THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GIVEN THEM MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, IT SEEMS, AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM MONEY FOR MARKETING.
UM, IN MY OPINION, THE MARKETING NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO COMPLETELY ASK THAT THEY SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT.
I JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN, BASED ON WHAT I SEE ON WHAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR WEBSITE AND WHAT THEIR EVENTS ARE SCHEDULED.
AND WHAT I SEE IS THE COMING YEAR, I DON'T SEE ENOUGH PROGRAMMING TO JUSTIFY THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION WAS A REDUCTION.
AND AGAIN, THIS WAS BASED ON US REDUCING TO $600,000 OR SO.
MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO REDUCE THAT ONE TO ONE 50.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I SHARE YOUR SENTIMENTS.
SO I'LL JUST SAY I SHARE YOUR SENTIMENTS.
'CAUSE I STRUGGLED WITH THIS ONE.
I THOUGHT THE PRESENTATION ALL, I THOUGHT MOST OF THE PRESENTATIONS WERE VERY WELL.
UM, AND I TRIED TO DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH AS WELL, AND THE WEBSITE I WENT ON AS WELL AND LOOKED AND, UM, I, I, UH, I JUST DIDN'T SEE HEAR IN THE, UH, ENOUGH IN THE PRESENTATION TO, UM, TO CONVINCE ME THAT IT'S GROWING, EVEN THOUGH IT GETS FUNDED EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I THINK IT SH THE ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE GROWING, BUT THE, THE, THE NUMBERS SHOULD BE GROWING AS WELL.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
UM, UM, AND I'M NOT SAYING NOT TO FUND THEM, BUT I DO THINK IN OUR NUMBER, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND, AND, AND IF WE CAN MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD FOR THEM, UH, ON, ON WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IN, IN COMING YEARS IF THEY COME BACK.
THE HARD PART ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION, I THINK, IS THAT IT SHOWS UP IN SO MANY OTHER PLACES.
YOU KNOW, SHE, MS. COHEN IS EVERYWHERE AND, AND THAT HAS ITS VALUE.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EQUATES TO THE VALUE OF THE MONEY FOR THE MUSEUM.
YOU KNOW, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT SHE IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND SHE'S FABRIC AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, WE HAVE TO TREAT THAT DIFFERENTLY, I THINK.
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I DON'T KNOW.I I HAVE TROUBLE WITH THIS ONE.
I THINK IT, SHE IS FABRIC AND I'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT.
AND, UM, I THINK, UM, WE SHOULD SUPPORT HER AS FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THAT SUPPORT, UM, MAY NOT BE FINANCIAL.
OTHER THOUGHTS? ADRIAN THOMAS? I AGREE WITH BOTH.
I THINK 150,000 IS A GOOD NUMBER, UH, BASED ON HISTORY AND, UH, THE NEEDS FOR FUNDS.
JOHN, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I THINK SHE'S AN ISLAND TREASURE, AND I THINK WE SHOULD SUPPORT IT.
I WOULD SUPPORT ONE 60 IS WHAT MY, WHAT WAS MY, MY NUMBER.
WE'RE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
UM, IN THE, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WOULD PROBABLY SAY WE PUT IN THE ONE 50 OR ONE 60, AND THEN WE GO TO THE NEXT.
ANYONE? EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? YEP.
THE GLA TRAVELING THEATER IS NEXT.
THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I THINK THIS IS, UH, THIS WOULD BE A NEW EVENT.
UH, I BELIEVE JUST LISTENING TO, TO THE PRESENTATION AND, AND, UH, LOOKING AT THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY THAT IT, THAT IT HAS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF BECOMING, UH, REALLY INTERESTING THINGS, UH, TOWARD THE ISLAND AND TOURISTS TO, TO ENJOY, UH, SINCE IT'S A NEW ONE.
NOT SURE IF I WOULD AWARD THE ENTIRE 25 REQUEST, BUT MAYBE WE GO IN AT AROUND 15 TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO GET STARTED.
OTHER THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR 15? I, UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THESE FOLKS COME TO HILTON HAT.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE A HUGE DRAW AND A, AND A GREAT COMPLIMENT TO ALL THE OTHER GALA ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, GIVEN, AGAIN, THE REDUCTIONS THAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING, I PUT HER DOWN.
I PUT THESE FOLKS DOWN FOR 20.
UM, BUT IF WE'RE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE EXTRA MONEY, I'M SURE, I MEAN, THIS IS NOT THEIR FIRST REDUCTION, IT WOULD BE THEIR FIRST ONE HERE.
UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE DONE THESE ALL OVER THE PLACE, SO I MEAN, I WOULD GO WITH 20, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY, I'D RATHER DO THE FULL FUNDING FOR THEM.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM ON HILTON HEAD.
I HAD A BUT SHE'S ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE ALL HER PAPERWORK.
RIGHT? SHE, SHE DID SUBMIT A BUDGET, CORRECT? SHE DID, YES.
SO SHE CAUGHT UP WITH ALL, ALL THE PAPERWORK, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS A BEAUFORT COUNTY PREDOMINANTLY WITH THESE, THE TRAVELING WAS DONE THROUGHOUT BERKSHIRE COUNTY WITH A, OR BEAUFORT COUNTY WITH A SMALL REPRESENTATION ON HILTON HEAD.
THEY, I THINK THEY HAVE, THEY'VE NEVER PERFORMED AT HILTON.
YEAH, THEY'RE IN BEAUFORT, BUT THEY, THEY ARE ENTHUSIASTICALLY SAYING THAT THEY'RE A HILTON HEAD BASED.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE FUND IT AND, AND I THINK $20,000 SEEMS REASONABLE.
I HAD IT AT 21, SO I'M FINE WITH 20.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR $20,000? I JUST, I WANNA SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HOLD THE NEW, ALL THE NEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT APPLIED FOR MONEY TO THE SAME, TO THE SAME, UH, UH, I'M NOT SURE THE WORD I WANNA PUT ON IT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT 'EM AT THE SAME, I THINK IF WE GO BACK TO OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BEACH CAT SAILORS, THEY JUST HAD A SUCCESSFUL EVENT AND WE'RE CUTTING, AND WE WERE, AND WE'RE CUTTING THEIR REQUEST IN HALF.
UM, WE WE'RE TALKING NOW ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION, WHICH I'D LOVE TO SEE.
I I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE DATES TO SEE IN BEAUFORT TO GO, UM, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A TRACK RECORD IN HILTON HEAD.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA, I THINK WE, WE NEED TO, AS WE LOOK AT THESE NEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR FUNDS, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT EVEN KEELED.
AND, UM, I'D BE WILLING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WE DID ON, ON THE BEACH CAT SAILORS AND HALF THEIR REQUEST.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE FAIR FOR THE NEW ONES THAT WE BELIEVE SHOULD THAT, THAT WE BELIEVE HAVE PROMISE.
AND I DO BELIEVE THIS ONE DONE PROPERLY AND, AND, UM, WOULD BE A DRAW HERE FROM A CULTURAL STANDPOINT FOR SURE.
AND, AND IT BLENDS IN WITH SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO HERE CULTURALLY.
SO, UM, BUT THERE'S NO TRACK RECORD IN HILTON HEAD, AND I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT.
I MEAN, I, I, I CAN AGREE WITH YOUR PHILOSOPHY OF, UH, THAT THERE'S
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MANY WORTHY NEW ORGANIZATIONS THAT APPLIED THIS YEAR AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED JUST, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS FUNDS.UM, WE SHOULDN'T, WE SHOULDN'T PRECLUDE THEM JUST BASED ON THEM BEING NEW.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, UH, I AM FINE WITH $20,000.
UH, I IS, IS THERE A SECOND ON THE $20,000 SECOND? YES, I SUPPORT 20.
UH, SO LET'S PENCIL IN $20,000 RIGHT THERE.
UM, NEXT WILL BE, WE'RE GONNA DO A SECOND PASS.
AGAIN, THE HARBORTOWN MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION, THEY'RE ASKING FOR $50,000, WHICH IS AN INCREASE FROM $29,000 LAST YEAR.
THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? IT SEEMS LIKE A BIG INCREASE FOR JUST ENHANCED FIREWORKS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU CAN EN ENHANCE FIREWORKS, OR DOES IT NEED TO BE ENHANCED? SO, UH, I I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IN, IN A YEAR LIKE THIS, WHEN FUNDS ARE TIGHT, THAT WE JUST KEEP 'EM TO THE 29, I THINK THAT INCREASE WAS IN TIDE.
ISN'T THAT TIED TO A, A 250 YEAR ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL EVENT OR SOMETHING? I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THAT, OR THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT ONE.
I, I THINK THAT WAS A HORRIBLE OFFENSE.
NO, IT, THERE IS A, THERE IS A PLAN FOR THE MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION TO HAVE A MORE, UH, UM, ROBUST CELEBRATION FOR THE 250 ANNIVERSARY.
I ALSO LIKE THE FACT THAT 91% OF THEIR ATTENDEES ARE TOURISTS.
AND IT'S, UM, I THINK BOTH, I, I HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT BOTH THAT ONE AND THE ONE, AND THIS, THE FIREWORKS AT SHELTER COVE ARE SOMETHING THAT REACH ALL AGES AND ALL FAMILY MEMBERS.
SO I'M MORE IN SUPPORTIVE OF FUNDING FOR THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS.
'CAUSE I, I, I SEE THEM SIMILARLY AND, AND SEE WHAT THEY DO, HOW THEY IMPACT GUEST EXPERIENCE.
SO I'D AGREE WITH EXACTLY WHAT JOHN JUST SAID.
SO, UH, JOHN, ARE YOU RECOMMENDING FULL FUNDING? I, I AM.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR FULL FUNDING? SECOND.
THEN THIRD, UM, I WILL, UH, LET'S PENCIL THAT IN FOR 50,000.
WHAT WAS THAT, WHAT IT WAS? YEAH, 50,000.
NEXT UP IS THE HILTON HEAD, AUTOBAHN SOCIETY.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR 27,000 5, 950 $5.
SO LAST YEAR, UH, I BELIEVE WE VOTED ON REDUCING THEIR AS TO 15, WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT BACK UP TO 21 4.
UH, THE, THE, THE, I I THINK THE BIGGEST QUESTION I HAVE FOR, FOR THIS ASK IS THE, THE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE THEATER FOR 70, SOME TH A LITTLE OVER $7,000, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS NOT NECESSARILY MONEY WELL SPENT.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE, UH, FUND WOULD BE THE EXCLUSION OF THAT PARTICULAR PSA, WHICH BRINGS IT TO ABOUT 22,000.
UM, I HAVE A, A RECOMMENDATION OF 22,000.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, LET'S PENCIL THAT IN FOR 22,000.
UM, JUST TO KEEP A TALLY ON, ON WHAT WE HAVE CUT SO FAR, IT WOULD BE AROUND, HAVE YOU GUYS CUT THE TALLY? IT'S ON STAFF OF, OF WHAT WE'VE CUT SO FAR FROM WHAT THE ASK BEEN.
IT'S BEEN AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THE HILTON HEAD CHORAL SOCIETY, UH, THEY'RE ASK US FOR $20,000.
THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I WOULD RECOMMEND WE GIVE 'EM THE FULL 20.
I I WOULD SECOND THAT ONLY, IT, IT'S FLAT TO LAST YEAR AND IT'S 30,000 LESS THAN 2022.
AND I THINK IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY SOMETIMES THE RE THE RETURN, BUT WHEN YOU GALVANIZE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, PEOPLE COME BACK AND BACK.
IT'S FOR NOT JUST BEACH AND GOLF.
SO I, I THINK IT'S DESERVES FULL FUNDING.
I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR FULL FUNDING.
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SECOND.THIS IS THE YEAR THAT THEY HAVE THE VIENNA BOYS CHOIR COMING, AND I THINK THEIR NUMBERS ARE GONNA GO WAY UP JUST BASED ON THAT.
SO YEAH, I, I THINK FULL FUNDING, I WOULD RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
LET'S PENCIL THAT IN FOR $20,000.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT THE TOWN HAS ADJUSTED.
UM, THEIR TOTAL ALLOWABLE, UH, UNDER TURK, AND, UH, ACCORDING TO THEIR BUDGET WOULD BE, UH, 343,000, UM, WITH 308,000 IN CATEGORY ONE AND 35,000 IN CATEGORY TWO.
SO THE, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT ALLOWABLE IS $7,000 LESS THAN THE ASK.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? IT'S A GREAT EVENT.
AND FROM, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, IT BRINGS A LOT OF ROOM NIGHTS TO THE ISLAND.
UH, NOT JUST TOURISTS, BUT ALSO, UH, GROUPS, UH, LIKE BMW OWNERS AS AN EXAMPLE.
UH, SO I, I RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING FOR THE 3 43.
IT, UH, LET'S PENCIL THAT IN FOR 3 43.
HAS ANYBODY ADDED UP THAT, THAT RUNNING LIST OF WHERE WE MIGHT BE AT? UH, HILTON HEAD DANCE THEATER? UH, THEIR REQUEST IS FOR $20,000.
THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? UM, I RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
IT'S LESS THAN LAST YEAR, AND I SEE ON A UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GO AND I SEE, I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF OUR FULL FUNDING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR FULL FUNDING? SECOND.
I THOUGHT THE NUMBERS SHE SUPPLIED US WERE GREAT.
AND THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS THROUGH THE YEARS IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FOR $20,000? YES.
I I BELIEVE THIS EVENT THAT THEIR, UH, DATA IS, UH, IS UNDERVALUED BECAUSE, UH, THEY, I THINK A LOT OF VISITORS ARE BROUGHT IN WITH TICKETS FROM LOCALS.
THIS, UH, PENCIL THAT IN FOR 20,000 HILTON HEAD ISLAND AIRPORT.
THEIR ASK IS 175,000 UP FROM 150,000 LAST YEAR.
UM, ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR FULL FUNDING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'M A SECOND THAT SECOND.
LET'S PENCIL THAT IN FOR FULL FUNDING AT 175,000.
THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND BRIDGE ASSOCIATION FOR $20,000.
UH, THAT IS UP $5,000 FROM LAST YEAR.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I HAD THAT AT THEM AT 17,000.
SO GIVING THEM A, A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
OF COURSE, THAT WAS WITH THE EARLIER NUMBERS THAT WE HAD.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
THAT'S WHAT I HAD WITH THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS.
SO LET'S PENCIL THEM IN FOR 17,000.
THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND LAND TRUST FOR $50,000.
UH, THAT'S UP $3,000 FROM LAST YEAR.
UM, ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS WHILE PEOPLE ARE REVIEWING THE NOTES? DID WE HAVE THAT NUMBER? I HAD THE 47,000.
THEN AT MANCHESTER YOU HAD A 47,000.
THAT IS WHERE I HAD THEM AS WELL.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? 47,000? MM-HMM
LET'S PENCIL THEM IN FOR 47,000.
UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR $75,000.
ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? I RECOMMEND WE FULLY FUND IT.
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AGREED.WE HAVE FULL FUNDING FOR THE REC ASSOCIATION AT $75,000 FOR THE HILTON HEADLAND TRUST.
UH, INCIDENTALLY, WE HAD 47,000, UM, ST.
UH, THEY'RE ASKING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I BELIEVE IT IS UP $20,000 FROM LAST YEAR'S.
ASK ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? IT IT APPEARS THAT THEY, UH, ARE LIMITED TO 79,439.
THEY, UH, THEIR MAXIMUM AMOUNT ALLOWABLE IS 79,439.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, FUND THAT.
PATRICK'S DAY PARADE IS THEIR MAX ALLOWABLE 79,439.
SO IT'S AROUND 113, 114,000 AT THIS POINT.
BUT CAN YOU GO BACK TO LAND TRUST AND THE REC ASSOCIATION? WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT FOR YOU? WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS, 47,000 FOR LAND TRUST AND THE REC ASSOCIATION WAS, WAS FULL FUNDING.
I I HOPE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BRING THIS.
SO I, I WANT US TO BE CAREFUL THAT ONE, ONCE WE GET TO OUR, THE NUMBER, THE MAGIC NUMBER, THAT WE DON'T SAY, WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY MORE CUTS.
SO THOSE THAT ARE AT THE END OF THE REVIEW HAVE A DISTINCT ADVANTAGE TO THOSE THAT ARE REVIEWED PREVIOUSLY.
I WANT, I JUST WANNA CAUTION ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK ON THIS FIRST RUN THROUGH, WE SHOULDN'T WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT IT.
I WAS JUST INTERESTED TO KNOW.
SO NO ONE SHOULD BE PENALIZED FOR BEING LOWER DOWN ON THE LIST.
SO WE COULD GO TO THE, WE COULD START NOW.
WE COULD GO BACK TO THE, FROM THE BOTTOM.
JUST, UM, NEXT UP IS HILTON HEAD WINE FOOD FESTIVAL.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR $130,000, WHICH IS THE SAME AS THEY'VE ASKED FOR MANY YEARS IN A ROW.
I RECKON A GREAT EVENT BRINGS IN A LOT OF TOURISTS.
LET'S PUT THAT DOWN FOR 130,000.
NEXT IS THE RHYTHM AND BREW FESTIVAL FOR 40,000, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE OF 10,000 OVER THE PRIOR YEAR.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? THIS ONE I HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH.
UM, I LOOKED BACK THROUGH MY NOTES LAST YEAR AND LAST YEAR, UH, THEIR NUMBERS WEREN'T GREAT AND WE AGREED TO GIVE THEM, UH, AN ADDITIONAL YEAR TO TRY TO GET IT TOGETHER AND SEE HOW THE NEXT YEAR WOULD BE.
IT DIDN'T APPEAR TO ME THAT THE NUMBERS IMPROVED GREATLY.
UH, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A FUN EVENT, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T BRING IN ANY TOURISTS FROM WHAT I CAN TELL.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ONE, UNFORTUNATELY, WAS BASED ON THE BIG CUTS THAT WE WERE MAKING WAS NO FUNDING.
NOW, MAYBE SINCE WE HAVE SOME MONEY, MAYBE WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT, BUT THAT WAS MY INITIAL RECOMMENDATION.
I, I BELIEVE THAT WAS DUE TO WEATHER.
I THINK, UM, SOME OF THE DATA THAT THEY SUPPLIED FROM WAS RELATIVE TO THE, THE, UH, UNFORTUNATE WEATHER CONDITIONS THEY EXPERIENCED.
THEY'VE HAD A TOUGH, IT'S TOUGH.
YEAH, THEY'VE HAD TWO YEARS OF BAD WEATHER.
I THINK THE, I THINK THE WEATHER DEFINITELY IMPACTED HIM.
UM, I, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED, UM, ON THE, THE MARKETING MONEY GOING TO THE INFLUENCER FOR THAT EVENT.
IT DIDN'T SEEM TO ME TO BE, SEEMED TO BE A GOOD INFLUENCER FOR THE WINE FEST, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD INFLUENCER FOR THE, FOR THAT FESTIVAL.
SO I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THAT MARKETING EXPENSE.
UM, AND THEY HAVE BATTLED WEATHER, SO IT'S TOUGH TO JUDGE 'EM ON THEIR NUMBERS.
UM, AND POTENTIALLY THEY COULD LOOK AT AN, AN INDOOR VENUE AT SOME POINT.
I HAD THIS PENCIL DATA AT THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S NUMBER OF 30,000.
AND BASED ON THE NUMBERS, I CAN'T REALLY SEE GIVING THEM MORE THIS YEAR, BUT WILLING TO GIVE THEM SO THAT THEY CAN TRY AND BUILD IT UP FOR NEXT YEAR.
I KNOW YOU SAID THAT WE SAID THAT LAST YEAR, BUT I'D LIKE FURTHER WORK AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE 'EM SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT JUSTIFIES AN INCREASE.
ANYONE ELSE? HUH? ANY THOUGHTS? I DO.
I INFLUENCERS, THIS ISN'T WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TODAY, BUT THE, THE REACH THEY HAVE IS, IS INCREDIBLE.
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ADVERTISING AND OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE.I'M COMING TO TERMS WITH THAT TOO IN MY ADVANCED AGE, BUT, UM, INFLUENCERS DO HAVE THE, THE NUMBER OF OF PEOPLE THEY REACH IS INCREDIBLE.
YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING THIS INFLUENCER FOR A BEER FESTIVAL DIDN'T, DIDN'T KIND OF MAKE SENSE TO ME, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
UM, A SINGER, $30,000 30 IS GOOD PLACE TO LAND.
SO DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR 30002ND.
OKAY, LET'S PENCIL THEM IN FOR 30,000, THE HILTON HAD SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA ASKING FOR 360,000, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF $10,000 OVER LAST YEAR.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? ALL FUNDING.
AND I LIKE, I LIKE SOME OF THE NEW THINGS THEY'VE STARTED TO DO AND WITH, UH, WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE CULTURAL PIECE ON THE ISLAND.
SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A, WE SHOULD FULLY FUND IT.
UH, LET'S PENCIL THEM INTO ANY DISAGREEMENT ON THAT.
SO LET'S PENCIL THEM IN FOR FULL FUNDING AT 360,000 LIEN ENSEMBLE THEATER, $55,000, WHICH IS THE, THE SAME THEY ASKED FOR THE YEAR BEFORE.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I, I'LL GO FIRST ON THIS.
THIS, THIS ORGANIZATION PRESENTS A LOT OF, UH, UH, CULTURALLY SIGNIFICANT, UH, PERFORMANCES.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY ALSO FACE SOME CHALLENGES WITH, UH, VENUE COSTS AND AVAILABILITY.
UH, SO I WOULD RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
THAT'S PENCIL LIMITED FOR 55,000 LONG COVE CLUB DARIUS RECORD GOLF TOURNAMENT.
UM, THEY WERE ASKING FOR 67,250, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE OF AROUND 5,000 OR SO MORE THAN LAST YEAR.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I THINK IT'S A GREAT EVENT.
IT, UH, CERTAINLY HAS HELPED, UH, THE ISLAND.
I, I RECOMMEND WE GIVEN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE OF 63,320.
MS. PENCIL, IN FURTHER MAX ALLOWABLE 63 3 20 LOW COUNTRY GOLF COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION ASKING FOR $150,000 USING, UH, MR. FARRELL'S ACCUSING HIMSELF FROM THIS, THIS IS WHERE WE, WE REALLY HAD DIFFICULTY, OR AT LEAST I HAD DIFFICULTY, UH, PACING TOGETHER THE, THEIR BUDGET AND THE, THE FUNDS THEY WERE GETTING FROM THE, THE, THE VCB.
I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF GOT AN ANSWER TO THAT NO FURTHER THAN FROM THE APPLICANT HEARING.
NO, EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS HAD INFORMATION WAS FROM THE APPLICANT HEARING.
THAT WAS THE LAST PIECE OF INFORMATION WE HAD.
ADRIAN, COULD YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? SO, UH, THE, THE ASK INCREASED, UM, LET ME MAKE SURE I SAY THIS CORRECTLY.
THE ASK INCREASED LAST YEAR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE, UH, THE PCB FUNDED THE MARKETING PRIOR TO THE EXTENT OF $200,000 A YEAR, AND THEY, UH, OMITTED IT FROM THEIR BUDGET.
I WAS, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND THEREFORE, THE ASK FROM THE LOW HUNTING GOLF ASSOCIATION, UM, INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY YEAR OVER YEAR.
NOW THEY'RE STILL, THE, THE ASK LAST YEAR, ACTUALLY IT WAS 200,000 AND WE, WE LOWERED IT TO ONE 50, UM, AND NOW THEY'RE STILL ASKING FOR ONE 50.
BUT IN THEIR APPLICATION, IT SHOWED THAT THE VCB IS AGAIN FUNDING THEM FOR 200,000, WHICH WOULD GIVE IT THREE, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT 350,000, WHICH IS MORE THAN I THINK THEY HAD IN THE PAST, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.
BUT I, I NEVER GOT AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT.
BASED ON, UH, THE INFORMATION, THAT INFORMATION, DO I HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A NUMBER? CAN I, LET ME JUST ADD TO THAT, 'CAUSE THAT CONFUSED ME, BUT ALSO I NEVER GOT A CLEAR, I COULDN'T GET A CLEAR ANSWER DURING THE PRESENTATION TO, UM, THIS WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT I THOUGHT WORKED SO CLOSELY WITH THE CHAMBER SLASH THE DM OS PORTION OF THE CHAMBER, AND I COULDN'T REALLY GET A CLEAR ANSWER ON THAT.
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AND IF, IF THEIR MARKETING, SHE STATED, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FACTUAL OR NOT, I'M, I'LL TRUST THAT IT IS THAT, THAT, UM, THEY'RE BASICALLY THE LEAD STATE MARKET GO RIGHT TO THE CHAMBER WEBSITE.SO FOR ME, I'M LIKE, OKAY, I'M, I'M A GOLFER.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I WORK AT A GOLF COURSE, PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, A GOLFER.
I JUST SEE, I, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I THINK, UM, WHERE IT'S DUPLICATING MARKETING EXPENSES IN MY OPINION.
I MEAN, IF, IF, IF EVERYTHING'S BEING DRIVEN TO THE CHAMBER WEBSITE, I THINK THAT'S, UM, LIKE KIND OF A DMO FUNCTION OF SOME SORT.
SO I STRUGGLED WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I KNOW IT DRIVES PEOPLE TO THE ISLAND TO PLAY GOLF.
SO YEAH, WE'VE HAD THIS
I, I, THAT QUESTION COULDN'T BE ANSWERED.
AND, AND, AND THAT QUESTION WASN'T ANSWERED AS WELL.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO IN THIS SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT TWO, TWO ANSWERS, TWO QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO.
UM, CAN YOU, CAN, CAN WE, UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M NEW HERE, SO CAN WE, CAN WE SAY WE WE'RE GONNA FUND A SPECIFIC AMOUNT AND, AND REQUIRE THEM TO, UM, GIVE US SOME BETTER ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS? WELL, MAYBE WE, WE FUND THEM FOR THE, TO THE 2024 LEVEL, WHICH IS WHEN THEY STILL RECEIVE FROM FUNDING FROM THE VCB OR THE CHAMBER, WHICH WOULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
UH, I THE DAVE, IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION, UM, WHEN WE GIVE OUR PRESENTATION TO TOWN COUNCIL, UM, THAT THIS ISSUE CAN BE BROUGHT UP OF, OF WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
SO, SO WE'LL HAVE A, AN, UH, A CHANCE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST, MA WE'RE JUST MAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAVE TO DO THE ULTIMATE APPROVAL.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, SO THAT, THAT CAN BE BROUGHT UP IN, IN KEITH.
WE CAN MAKE A NOTE FOR KEITH TO BRING THAT UP.
UM, SO, UH, I WOULD WE HAVE, WE HAVE A NUMBER OUT THERE FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DO I A SECOND.
FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND LOW COUNTRY GULLAH, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ASK, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS, UH, THE SAME AS THE YEAR BEFORE.
THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY, BY THE PRESENTATION, THE NUMBERS, UH, THE WEBSITE, UM, AND, AND WHAT THEIR AND THEIR GROWTH, I THINK WE SHOULD FULLY FUND IT.
I BELIEVE THAT THIS, UH, ORGANIZATION IS A NEW WAY OF MARKETING, UH, THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE ISLAND.
AND THE, AND THE, THE FACT THAT IT'S HIGHLIGHTING OUR, OUR SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL ATTRIBUTES THAT, UM, ONCE, ONCE WE FULLY REALIZE THIS, UH, THIS WHOLE CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL, UH, ASPECT OF OUR, OF OUR ISLAND, IT'LL BE VERY BENEFICIAL.
NOT JUST FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE AND NOT JUST FOR THE CULTURE, BUT ALSO FOR TOURISTS.
SO, UM, I SEE THIS AS A, THIS ORGANIZATION AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PROMOTE, UM, SOME OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT ASSETS.
SO I, I WOULD MOVE TO FULLY FUND IT.
CAN I, CAN I ADD, SO THIS, THIS IS WHERE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION WHERE MOST OF THE DATA THAT WAS SUSPENDED, UH, REALLY PERTAINED TO, TO THE GU GEECHEE QUARTER, WHICH INCLUDED FOUR STATES GOING FROM WILMINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA, ALL THE WAY TO ST.
AND, AND SHE COULD NOT REALLY SUPPLY US WITH ANY INFORMATION RELATIVE TO HILTON ISLAND.
AND SO MOST OF THE, UH, THE DATA IS, IS BASED ON A, ON A, ON A RATHER LARGE AREA.
HER, UH, THE TOUR ALSO INCLUDES, UH, THE OTHER CITIES AND AREAS.
UH, SO I, I THINK I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO, UH, TO SEEK FUNDING FROM OTHER AREAS THAT ALSO BENEFIT FROM THIS PARTICULAR WEBSITE.
UM, SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE, WE CUT THE FUNDING TO $75,000 TO GIVE HER THE CREDIT FOR THE FACT THAT HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS A KEY COMPONENT, UH, BUT MAYBE, UH, PRT AND BEAUFORT COUNTY, UH, SHOULD BE, UH, CONNECTED AS WELL.
SO HAVE, UH, TWO RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND ONE FOR 75,000.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSION? UM, I WANT TO TAG ON WHAT YOU SAID, MARTIN.
UM, I THINK, UH, AND I DID QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH ON THIS AFTER THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I THINK, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CORRIDOR GULLAH WISE IS INCREASING EVERY MINUTE ACTIVITY EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK THE TOUR IS A WONDERFUL IDEA
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AND I THINK THE FACT THAT HILTON HEAD CAN CAPITALIZE ON BEING THE CENTER OF THE CORRIDOR, THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO.WE HAVE A LOT OF ATTRACTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO SEE HERE.
IF THEY ARE ONLY COMING FOR THAT TYPE OF AN EXPERIENCE, WE HAVE SEVERAL PLACES THEY CAN, THEY CAN VISIT AND STAY.
UM, I THINK SHE ALSO MENTIONED, I DON'T REMEMBER THE, I THINK, I THINK THE TOUR INCLUDED TWO OR THREE NIGHTS OF HOTEL IN HILTON HEAD.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PEOPLE CAN'T STAY LONGER WHEN THE TRIP IS OVER.
UM, I SEE, I SEE A BIG UPSIDE.
I, I SEE A BIG UPSIDE AND I SEE A LOT OF COMPETITION IN THE CORRIDOR, UM, TO BEING THE KIND OF THE GULL OF CAPITAL.
AND HERE WE ARE IN THE CENTER OF IT.
I THINK, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, UH, SUPPORT AND CAPITALIZE ON.
I FEEL LIKE, UM, THIS ORGANIZATION REALLY, UH, I, I MEAN WE HAVE ONE INVALUABLE PART OF THE CORRIDOR ON HILTON HEAD THAT IS UNIQUE AND IMPORTANT, AND THAT IS MITCHELLVILLE.
AND SO FOR ME, UH, HILTON HEAD IS THE CENTER OF THE CORRIDOR.
UM, WE HAVE TWO NUMBERS OUT THERE.
DOES THAT, DOES ANYBODY SECOND EITHER OF THOSE? I WOULD GO WITH FULL FUNDING.
WHAT WERE THE TWO NUMBERS AGAIN? SORRY.
75,000 AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
I'M GONNA THROW A THIRD NUMBER AND I'M GONNA SAY 80,000.
AND, AND, AND MY REASONING IS THAT YES, WE ARE THE CENTER.
I WOULD, WHEN I THINK WE ASKED THIS, WERE THEY ABLE TO FURNISH ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE FUNDING MECHANISMS THEY HAVE FOR PLACES OUTSIDE OF HILTON? RIGHT.
I MEAN, THE, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD ABOUT THAT IS THAT, UM, HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN AT TAX FOR A LONG TIME, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SECURE FUNDING FROM BEFORD COUNTY OR ANOTHER LOCATION.
ONCE YOU'RE REC RECEIVING FUNDING FROM HILTON HEAD.
UH, THEY ALL HAVE, THEY ALL SAY HILTON HEAD, YOU HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES IN THE WORLD, WE'RE NOT GONNA HELP YOU OUT.
UH, SO IT, IT IS VERY HARD TO, AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY ARE INCREASINGLY CUTTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE RECEIVED ANY COUNTY FUNDING.
UM, I THINK THIS IS, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT, UH, AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS AND, AND, AND, UH, LOOK AT IT AS, AS WHAT CAN WE DO TO, TO HELP THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE ADDING SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE A REALLY, UH, GREAT BENEFIT FOR THE ISLAND, WHICH IS THE, THE TOUR AND BEING BASED ON THE ISLAND.
UM, IT IS, IT IS A, IT IS A CHALLENGE TO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM OTHER A TAX ORGANIZATIONS.
THEY WANNA HOLD ONTO THEIR MONEY FOR THEIR TALENT.
AND THEY WOULD LOOK AT IT THE OTHER WAY OF WHY SHOULD WE GIVE MONEY TO AN ORGANIZATION BASED IN HILTON HEAD, WHICH IT IS.
UM, THAT, MY THOUGHT ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING TO ADD TO THE LIST TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE TOWN SHOULD, SHOULD HAVE BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS AROUND AND USING SOME OF OUR STRENGTH OF HILTON HEAD TO MAYBE CHANGE SOME OF THAT.
UM, SO ANY THOUGHTS? WE HAVE THREE NUMBERS OUT THERE.
LAST THOUGHT ON LOW COUNTRY GULLAH.
UM, I THINK OF ALL THE GULLAH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS ONE PROBABLY HAS THE MOST NATIONAL REACH OF ANY OF 'EM.
YOU KNOW, SHE'S, SHE'S, SHE MAY NOT JUST FOCUS ON HILTON HEAD, BUT THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THAT TOO.
I, I, I ORIGINALLY CAME IN AT 90, BUT THAT WAS GIVEN.
UM, I THINK IF WE'RE HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FULL FUNDING.
SO WE HAVE THREE FOR FULL FUNDING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE? THOMAS, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? YOU KNOW, I HAD IT AT 87 'CAUSE FROM THE ORIGINAL CUTS, BUT TO BE FAIR, I CAN GO EITHER WAY.
ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S, UH, YOU WANT A FOURTH NUMBER?
HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT? WHAT WAS IT AGAIN? SAY IT AGAIN.
ONCE A PENN LAND FOR 95 I, THE MITCHELLVILLE PRESERVATION PROJECT, UM, THEY WERE ASKING FOR 2 0 5, UH, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE OF 15,000 OVER THE YEAR BEFORE.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? FOR FULL FUNDING? I HAD THE SAME, IT'S A, IT'S A G LET'S PENCIL THAT IN FOR FULL FUNDING.
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THE NATIVE ISLAND BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, THEY WERE ASKING FOR $320,000, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE IN $95,000 OVER LAST YEAR.UM, DO I HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? WELL, THE MAX NOW IS 2 46 BASED ON WHAT WE GOT TODAY.
YES, YOU'D RECOMMEND THAT WE FUND THAT.
WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR FULL FUNDING OF ALLOWABLE TURK AMOUNT OF $246,000.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? CAN IT BE STIPULATED THAT THAT INCLUDES THE 41,000 FOR THE VILLAGE? IT DOES, IT ACTUALLY DOES INCLUDE IT ALREADY.
THE REQUEST ORIGINALLY WAS FOR CATEGORY THREE, WHICH IT DID NOT QUALIFY FOR.
SO WE MOVED IN, IT'S ACTUALLY AN EVENT EXPENSE AND WE MOVED IT INTO CATEGORY TWO.
IN THAT CASE, I, I SUPPORT FINALLY FULLY FUNDED.
SO WE WILL GIVE, UH, THE MAX AMOUNT ALLOWABLE THERE, 246,000.
NEXT IS THE PALM QUILT GUILD FOR $8,000.
I SAY WE FULLY FUNDED, THIS WAS AN EASY ONE FOR ME.
I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THE NUMBERS FOR AN EVENT THAT'S DONE EVERY OTHER YEAR.
SO DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR FULL FUNDING? I AGREE.
SECOND, UH, FULL, FULLY FUNDED FOR $8,000.
THE ROTARY CLUB OF HILTON HAD FOR $5,000.
UH, THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I SUPPORT FULLY FUNDED.
MY THOUGHTS ON THIS WAS THAT IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SPONSORSHIP, BUT, UM, IF, UH, WELL WE WILL BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE FULLY FUNDED, THEN WE CAN PUT THAT NUMBER UP THERE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I WASN'T REALLY SURE HOW $5,000 WAS GONNA COVER BOTTLES FOR EVERYONE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR ANYWAY.
I THINK IT'S A SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I'M SURE THEY WOULD PUT THE MONEY TO GOOD USE.
UM, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO NOTE, THE BEACH CAT SAILORS HAD THE QUENCH BOGEY OUT THERE THIS WEEKEND AND, AND I FOUND OUT THAT THERE'S SOME DIFFICULTY GETTING IT OUT ON THE BEACH.
MAYBE THEY COULD SPEND $5,000 FIGURING OUT HOW TO MODIFY THE WHEELS SO THAT IT CAN BE USED ON THE BEACH.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE, I, I WOULD SAY FULL FUD.
I I I, I'M A FORMER ROTARY CLUB MEMBER AND, UM, I, I STRUGGLE WITH THIS ONLY BECAUSE I LOVE THE BEACH, THE QUENCH FUDDY.
UM, I JUST WONDER IF WE'RE SETTING A PRESIDENT OF STARTING TO FUND SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, EACH YEAR.
UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, NOW I THINK THE KIWANIS CAN COME AND KEY CLUB CAN COME AND ALL THE OTHER SERVICE ORGANIZATION ALLIANCES CLUB CAN COME.
AND I'VE ALWAYS, AS A MEMBER OF SOMEONE THAT'S BEEN A MEMBER OF SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS FOR A LONG TIME, IT JUST WAS ALWAYS ON US AS A SERVICE ORGANIZATION TO BE FUNDRAISING.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DID.
SO I I I THINK IT'S A GREAT LITTLE, UM, THING TO HAVE THE QUENCH BUG.
I JUST THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE USED AT EVENTS THAT WE'RE FUNDING AS WELL.
UM, AND WE EVEN TALKED A LITTLE BIT DURING OUR, THE PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ADVERTISING.
UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT A BUSINESS WOULDN'T WANT TO SPEND $5,000 A YEAR GETTING THEIR, UM, THAT, THAT THERE WOULD BE A, I THINK PEOPLE WOULD FIGHT TO GET THEIR BRAND ON THAT.
SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, JUST 5,000, NOT MUCH.
I'LL GO ALONG WITH IT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING A PRECEDENT HERE, UM, FOR THESE ONE TIME THINGS FOR SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS THAT NOW BECOME NOT JUST A ONE TIME THING.
YEAH, I ALREADY STATED MY THOUGHTS.
I THINK THAT THIS IS SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY.
UM, BUT ANYONE ELSE? WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A, I WITHDRAW MY, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
WE WILL PENCIL THEM IN FOR, UH, NO, FOR NO FUNDING FOR THIS.
UH, SEA PINES FOREST PRESERVED $48,000.
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FROM TWO YEARS AGO OF $8,000.THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR FUNDING LAST YEAR OR RECEIVED FUNDING LAST YEAR.
SO, UM, THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? THEY HAD GREAT NUMBERS.
UH, THEIR TOURIST NUMBERS WERE GOOD.
UH, THEY WERE A TOP ATTRACTION ON TRIPADVISOR.
UM, I, I WOULD SAY IF WE HAD THE MONEY, I ORIGINALLY CAME IN AT 40 WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A CUT, BUT IF WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND WE CAN FULLY FUND IT, I WOULD RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
DO YOU HAVE A SECOND FOR FULL FUNDING? SECOND.
WE WILL PENCIL HIM IN FOR FULL FUNDING AT $48,000.
SEA SEA TURTLE CONTROL OF HILTON HAD $70,000.
THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I GUESS I'LL GO FIRST.
I, I BELIEVE THIS ORGANIZATION'S INVALUABLE AND I RECOMMEND FULL FUNDING.
WE'LL PENCIL THEM IN FOR FULL FUNDING.
$70,000 SHELTER COVE HARBOR COMPANY.
$336,500, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE OF AROUND $40,000 OVER LAST YEAR'S.
UM, ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS.
SO THE INCREASES HAVE BEEN RATHER SIGNIFICANT OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
IT WAS, UH, 150, THEN IT WENT TO 1 95, THEN TO 2 44, THEN 2 93.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT, GREAT SERIES OF EVENTS.
I THINK WE, UH, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO FUND THEM AS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO, UH, BUT AT, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KIND OF CAP IT.
SO, UH, I HAVE A NUMBER OF 300.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? FOR 300,000, I HAD TWO.
UH, BUT SINCE WE, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY GO WITH ANY OTHER THOUGHTS WITH THE 2 93 ALSO? ARE PEOPLE OKAY WITH $300,000? I AM.
WE WILL PENCIL THEM IN FOR $300,000.
THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OF HILTON HEAD, THE $45,000 THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ONE.
SECOND PENCIL THEM IN FOR FULL FUNDING, THEN THE COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM.
THOUGHTS OF RECOMMENDATIONS? I WOULD RECOMMEND FULLY FUNDING 'EM.
FIRST TEE OF THE LOW COUNTRY PER 63.
THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? CUS HIM SIR, HONORS RECUSED.
UM, BASED ON US HAVING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER.
SAME HERE, BUT PENCIL THEM IN FOR 50,000.
140,000 THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I HAD THAT ONE AT 1 25.
UH, THAT WAS BASED ON US HAVING TO CUT EVERYBODY.
NOT QUITE WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
NOT QUITE WHAT THEY GOT LAST YEAR.
SO YOU HAD IT FOR 1 25? MM-HMM
SO THAT ONE 30 I HAD 1 22 BUT I'M OKAY WITH 1 25.
UM, BUT WE WILL PENCIL IT FOR 1 25.
THE OUTSIDE FOUNDATION, $72,000 THAT FULLY FUNDED, FULLY FUNDED MOVE.
UH, THAT'S FULLY FUND THAT ORGANIZATION.
AND THEN THE SANDBOX, WHICH HAD A MAX ALLOWABLE
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OF $81,678.THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? I'D SAY WE FULLY FUND THAT.
UM, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE GROWING OUT OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GROWING OUT OF THEIR SPACE.
SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THEIR NEXT CHALLENGE.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE OVER, UH, IS THAT THAT WE'RE OVER 145,000? UH, WELL THE MAX ALLOWABLE IS 81 6 78 NOW.
YEAH, I HAD 'EM AT 70,000 AT 65.
OKAY, SO WHY DON'T WE PENCIL IT? UH, I HAD 70.
WHY DON'T WE PENCIL THEM IN FOR 65,000, WHICH IS, UM, WHAT KEITH PENCIL HAD.
SO WE HAVE DONE OUR FIRST PASS, WE ARE OVER BY $210,000.
SO WE HAVE TO START TO LOOK AT SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN, CAN WE SCROLL BACK TO THE TOP OF THE LIST? UNLESS YOU GUYS WOULD PREFER TO START AT THE BOTTOM THIS TIME.
WHAT PERCENTAGE WOULD IT BE IF WE WERE JUST TO CHOOSE TO CUT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT? THE SAME PERCENT OFF EACH ORGANIZATION.
I THINK IT'S AROUND 4% TO CALCULATE THAT.
YEAH, IT'S RIGHT AROUND JUST UNDER 4%.
AND YOU DID HAVE A FEW THAT I HAD LISTED THAT YOU HAD SOME CONVERSATION MORE.
SO, GOSH, THAT THING, UM, WHICH GOES BACK TO ONE OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT TREATING THE NEW APPLICANTS ALL THE SAME.
THAT WAS A DISCUSSION FOR MAYBE AN AREA TO GO BACK TO.
UM, AND THAT WAS THE BEACH CAT SAILORS AND THE GOAL OF TRAVELING THEATER, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEACH CAT WAS CUT AT 50%.
DO YOU TREAT ALL THE NEW APPLICANTS THE SAME? THEREFORE THE GOAL OF TRAVELING THEATER WOULD BE CUT AT 50%.
UM, AND THEN ALSO YOU HAD THE QUESTION OF THE JERSEY ADDRESSES.
YOU HAD SOME MORE DISCUSSION THERE.
I WANNA POINT OUT THAT YOU HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION IF YOU WANNA GO BACK TO THOSE PARTICULAR ONES THAT YOU ALREADY HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH AS WELL.
MICHELLE, CAN I, CAN I UH, ALLOW A PUBLIC COMMENT HERE IF, IF, CAN I SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW BEING THAT WE HAVE A FORMER CHAIR HERE? YEAH.
THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE PROCESS ISN'T FOR INTERACTIVE DISCUSSION.
THIS IS A MEETING AGENDA ITEM.
PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENT DEFINITELY IS PART OF YOUR AGENDA, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THIS PARTICULAR LINE ITEM.
HOW CAN, UH, WE'RE WONDERING HOW IF WE DIDN'T EXCEED FUNDING ON ANYTHING THEN, AND IT WAS THE ORIGINAL CUTS WERE 189,000 OR SO, HOW COULD WE BE AT 210? I GUESS I'M MISSING.
SO IT WAS STILL WHAT WE EVEN CALCULATED BASED ON ALL THE TUR
AND THEN YOU'VE ADJUSTED IT AS YOU WENT.
YOU'VE EVEN DID LESS ON SOME OF 'EM THAN WHAT WE HAD.
SO THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT VARIABLES IN THERE.
SOME OF, SOME OF THE, THE, THE, THE COLUMN C IS THEIR ORIGINAL ASK, NOT THE ADJUSTED UH, YEAH, NOT THE ADJUSTED NUMBERS.
THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT WAS BASED UPON THE VERY FIRST INITIAL REQUEST.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE OTHER FACTORS.
DID THEY HAVE THE BUDGET TO MATCH? WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL TURK ALLOWANCE? WHAT'S THE ALLOWANCE PER THEIR TOURISM METRIC? THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE VERY FIRST INITIAL SUBMISSION TO NOW.
ARE WE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS BASED ON WHAT THE ALLOWABLE AMOUNT, TURK ALLOWABLE AMOUNT IS? THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THESE NUMBERS.
WHAT YOU'RE WHAT THE ALLOWABLE TUR ALLOWANCE YOU HAD THOSE IN THE PREVIOUS HEARINGS YOU HAD, WHAT THEIR ALLOWANCE WAS.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION I CAN GIVE YOU THAT AS WELL.
THERE'S ONE IN PARTICULAR LOOKING THE 2026 APPLICANT REQUEST NUMBERS IS THE OLD NUMBERS AS OPPOSED TO THAT'S THE VERY FIRST ORIGINAL NUMBERS.
AND SO SOMETIMES, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S DIFFERENT VARIABLES.
THEIR BUDGET MAY NOT HAVE MATCHED UP EVEN AFTER WE'VE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
THAT'S MAYBE A REASON WHY IT COULD BE THAT THEIR TOURISM PERCENTAGES WOULD CHANGE THAT AMOUNT.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
BUT THE BUT THE 2026 APPLICANT REQUEST NUMBER IS NOT THE MAX ALLOWABLE.
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APPLICANT REQUEST NUMBER.NO, THAT IS JUST STRICTLY FROM THE, THE NUMBERS THEY SUBMITTED.
THAT'S A TOTAL OF ALL THOSE GRANT SUBMISSIONS THAT CAME IN ORIGINALLY WITHOUT ANY CHANGE TO THEM AT ALL.
SO IS THAT TWO 10 BASED OFF OF A TURK MAX ALLOWABLE OR IS THAT FROM THE APPLICANT REQUEST? TWO 10.
SO THE NEGATIVE TWO IS WHAT YOU'RE OVER I CAN'T SEE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT NUMBER RIGHT THERE? YEAR TWO 10 OVER? SO IT COULD, IT JUST DEPENDS.
I MEAN IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S SOME THAT ARE OVER OR UNDER.
WELL THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT'S PROBABLY, THIS IS PROBABLY EXCEL.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN C AND D.
SO WE NEED TO PUT THAT ADJUSTED NUMBER IN THERE.
AND IF WE CAN PUT THE ADJUSTED NUMBER IN THERE ON THE, ON THE FEW THAT HAD TO BE ADJUSTED YES.
THEN WE'RE GONNA SEE THE REAL DIFFERENCE.
THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT THAT'S OVER.
'CAUSE YOUR NUMBER THAT YOU NEED TO GET TO IS THAT 4,076,000.
SO CAN WE PUT THOSE IN THAT COLUMN C? WHAT THE ONES THAT WERE ADJUSTED DOWN BEFORE WE GOT HERE, THEY WEREN'T.
COLUMN C HAS THEIR ORIGINAL ASK, BUT THEN WE GOT THE UPDATED, UH, ALLOWABLE, ALLOWABLE AFFORDABLE AMOUNTS TODAY.
YOU WANT WHAT, LIKE IT CALCULATED OUT TO YOU THAT IF YOU PUT THAT IN COLUMN C IT WOULDN'T BE THE APPLICANT REQUEST ANYMORE.
BUT SO YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT COLUMN THAT'S ON YOUR SHEET.
IT'S, IT'S ANOTHER NAME GIVE THAT'S EXACT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA GET THE EXACT NUMBER OF WHERE WE'RE OFF.
WELL, WE'RE STILL OFF 210 COMPARED TO THE FOUR OR SIX.
NO, I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO COLUMNS.
SO I THINK I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THE, WHEN WE UNDERSTAND YEAH, ACTUALLY THE DIFFERENCE, I LIKE HEARING SOMEBODY.
WILL YOU TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK RESTROOM? NO, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK WHILE YOU GUYS, YOU SURE CAN.
BUT EVEN WITH THAT NUMBER AND THAT NUMBER IS, IS FINE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE NUMBER REALLY STILL IS THE 4,076,000 REGARDLESS OF WHAT COLUMN D IS.
JUST TO IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT HELP US TO SEE IT.
YEAH, I MEAN JUST TO GIVE YOU GUIDANCE ON THAT, IT WAS LIKE 180 SOME THOUSAND IS WHEN I FIRST CALCULATED IT.
UM, UH, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND, UM, AND RESUME AT, UH, 10 35.
IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? YEP.
SO WE'RE BACK AND WE'RE READY TO MAKE OUR SECOND PASS THROUGH.
WE HAVE TO CUT FROM THIS AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO CUT $210,067.
SO, UM, DO I HAVE ANY THOUGHTS BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH GOING THROUGH ANOTHER RUN OF THE LIST? ANY COMMENTS? I HAD ONE SUGGESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WILL AGREE WITH ME.
UM, I HAVE LOCATED, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE FIVE ORGANIZATIONS HERE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHO, UM, THE NUMBERS AND I'M, I'M, I'M NOT GOING INTO DETAIL IN THE NUMBERS.
IF YOU LOOK AT TOURIST, VISITOR, RESIDENT, UM, THESE FIVE ORGANIZATIONS, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING TO THEM ARE RESIDENTS.
AND AGAIN, I KNOW WE ARE, WE ARE TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS HERE, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR PRIMARY FOCUS.
SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE FIVE ORGANIZATIONS SINCE THEY ARE SO REMARKABLY DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS.
AND MAYBE JUST LOOK AT A 2% DEDUCTION IN THOSE AND SEE IF THAT BRINGS US ANY CLOSER.
SO I GUESS IF WE WERE STARTING AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, YOUR FIRST CIRCLE WOULD PROBABLY BE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION, RIGHT? SO THE TOURIST PERCENTAGE IS 4%, VISITORS EIGHT AND RESIDENT IS 88%.
UM, I THINK WE ALLOCATED FOR THEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ALLOCATED FOR THEM.
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5,000.I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S NOT MUCH MONEY AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE A NEW FOUNDATION AND A NEW ORGANIZATION, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE NUMBERS ORIGINALLY I STARTED WITH WITH NO FUNDING FOR THIS ONE I DID AS WELL.
BUT, UM, DAVE, DAVE WAS, UH, HAD MADE SOME ELOQUENT POINTS ON YOU TRYING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I THINK AT ONE TIME EVERY ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS WERE BRAND NEW AND WE CAN'T LOSE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND I THINK WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS THERE RISK INVOLVED IN FUNDING THEM? OBVIOUSLY THERE'S RISK INVOLVED IN FUNDING JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY HERE.
BUT I THINK, UM, LOOKING AT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, UM, I, I AGREE WITH YOUR POINT OF THE TOURISM NUMBERS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE, THAT'S WHAT I LOOKED AT.
BUT I ALSO LOOKED AT THE CULTURAL SIDE AND, AND, AND, UM, AND WHAT HILTON HEAD'S DEFINITION OF CULTURE IS.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, WITH THE HELP OF COMMUNITY FOUNDATION IN THE LOW COUNTRY, I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO STICK WITH THAT 5,000.
I THINK WE CAN FIND THE NUMBERS ELSEWHERE AND I AND MAYBE ELSEWHERE IN SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE NOT BRINGING TOURISM NUMBERS.
UM, IT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS, UH, MY THOUGHTS WOULD BE THAT WE SHOULD START WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S SPENDING AND LOOK AT RETURNING THEM TO LAST YEAR'S AMOUNTS.
UM, AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AFTER THAT.
COULD I ASK A, A QUESTION OF THE TOWN, UH, SUPPORT, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING IT.
IS, HAS THERE EVER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PURELY RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE THE ULTIMATE DECISION IS MADE BY THE TOWN COUNCIL? YES, SIR.
OUR, THE NUMBER THAT WE WERE ASKED TO WORK WITH, IT'S, IT'S AN ESTIMATE TOO ALSO, IS THAT CORRECT OR IS IT A HARD NUMBER? THAT IS A HARD NUMBER.
THAT'S PER THE NEW FUND DISTRIBUTION POLICY.
THE 4,076,000 AND THEN THE, THE, THE UNREDEEMED OR UNUSED MONIES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THOSE COULD GO BACK INTO ANOTHER FUND, IS THAT CORRECT OR ARE THEY STILL AVAILABLE FOR THIS YEAR? WITH THE NEWTOWN POLICY, THE FUNDS THAT WERE LEFT OVER THAT WILL BE LEFT OVER FROM THE 2025 A TAX GRANT YEAR WILL BE PUT BACK INTO THE, AT TAX OVERALL POT TO BE THEN DISTRIBUTED BACK OUT PER THE POLICY, HOWEVER, WHICH IS 30 DMO, ET CETERA.
HOWEVER, FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR FOR 27, BASED UPON YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND WHAT YOU SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR GRANT AWARD SHEET TODAY, PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION IN ADDITION TO THE THE FUNDING AMOUNT IS THAT ANY LEFTOVER FUNDS FROM THE 2026 AT TAX GRANT CYCLE WILL BE PUT BACK INTO THE AT TAX GRANT AWARD CATEGORY, DISTRIBUTION CATEGORY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT JUST THE LEFTOVER FUNDS IN ADDITION TO THE ALREADY 33% THAT YOU'RE ALLOCATED IN THE FUND POLICY.
SO, SO TO EXPLAIN THAT TO THE COMMITTEE THAT BECAUSE, UH, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY PRESENT AT THE, UM, THE MEETING THAT, UH, KEITH AND I HAD WITH TOWN STAFF, UH, AS IT WAS THIS YEAR, BECAUSE IT'S A NEW POLICY, WE RECEIVED 33% OF THE OVERALL AT TAX MONEY.
IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER, IT GOES BACK INTO THAT OVERALL POT AND WE ONLY GET 33% OF THAT BACK.
SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE DOUBLE DIPPING INTO THE FUND.
SO WE ASKED, AND WE, AND IT'S ON OUR, IT'S ON OUR AGENDA FOR IT TO BE RECOMMENDED THAT ALL THE AT TAX GRANT AWARDS GOES BACK INTO ONLY THE GRANT POOL INSTEAD OF ENTERING THE, THE OTHER POOL AND ONLY RECEIVING 33% OF THAT.
AND SO, UM, I I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S GONNA GO TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND, UM, THEY SHOULD, I BELIEVE IT'S EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH IT, SO IT SHOULD BE REPAIRED FOR NEXT YEAR.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES, AND I THINK IT'S NOT, I THINK IT, I HOPE EVERYBODY BENEFITS FROM HERE AND THEN HISTORICALLY HAVE THE MONIES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT BACK INTO THE POOL HAVE, LIKE LAST YEAR WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT TOWN COUNCIL AWARDED MORE THAN WHAT WE RECOMMENDED.
THAT WAS BEFORE THEIR NEW POLICY.
THEIR NEW FUND DISTRIBUTION POLICY.
AND WHAT, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT NEW POLICY, THE THINGS THAT WERE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN LOOKING AT THOSE DISTRIBUTION NUMBERS WAS THAT IN, IN, BASED UPON HISTORICAL RECORDS, AT TIMES THERE WERE TIMES THAT THE GRANT WAS AWARDED AT 110%, YOU WERE GOING OVER THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS AVAILABLE POTENTIALLY.
AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WON'T EVER SUSTAIN ITSELF IN THE LONG RUN.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER PART OF THE REASONING BEHIND HAVING THAT POLICY IN PLACE TO HELP MONITOR THAT DISTRIBUTION.
SO FOR THE, FOR THE INTEREST OF TODAY'S EXERCISE, IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED WE GET THAT 2 10, 210 0 6, THAT'S, WE MUST GET THAT TWO 10 OUT FOR THE PER THE NEW POLICY.
IT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
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NUMBER NECESSARILY TO FOCUS ON.AND, AND JOHN, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, LAST YEAR, UH, WE HAD, WE HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING.
THERE WAS AN ELECTION AND SO, UH, A LOT OF, BY THE TIME THAT THEY WERE GONNA MAKE SOME OF THE A TAX DECISIONS, UH, THE ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY HAD THEIR BUDGETS IN FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
SO, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT AND ALSO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A HARD NUMBER, IF YOU REMEMBER MM-HMM
OF WHAT THE NUMBER, WHAT THE NUMBER WAS GONNA BE.
UH, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION FOR FULL FUNDING OF EVERYONE AND THEN WE HAD ANOTHER LIST OF IF WE HAD TO MAKE CUTS.
UH, I URGED A, UH, AND I CONTINUE TO URGE ANY ORGANIZATION THAT DOES NOT RECEIVE FULL FUNDING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE CUTS.
AND BELIEVE ME, WE DON'T WANT TO, BUT WE HAVE TO, TO, UH, NOT BE AFRAID TO GO AND ASK TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS TO FULLY FUND THE ORGANIZATION.
UM, TOWN OF FILM HEAD HAS A $170 MILLION BUDGET AND, UH, WHETHER THEY CAN FIND THOSE FUNDS OR NOT IS UP TO THEM.
BUT I WOULD URGE THEM IF, IF IT'S IMPERATIVE TO YOUR ORGANIZATION THAT YOU GO AND, UH, AND LOBBY FOR THAT MONEY.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD SECOND THAT
UH, THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THAT MAYBE, UH, THE MOST FORMAL AND EASIEST WAY MIGHT BE JUST TO START AT THE TOP OF THE LIST AGAIN AND GO THROUGH AND SEE WHAT WE FEEL.
UM, I, I CAN GO BACK TO SOME OF MY ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME IN VERY CLOSE TO THE NUMBER AND I CAN SHOOT THOSE NUMBERS OUT THERE AND WE CAN UH, WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ON EACH ONE AT THAT POINT.
MAYBE, UM, I'LL START WITH THE ART LEAGUE OF HILTON HEAD.
I HAD THEIR FUNDING AT $80,000 ON MY ORIGINAL GO THROUGH AND I RECOMMENDED THAT 20,000 OF THAT BE PUT INTO 20,000 OF THAT BE PUT INTO, UH, THEIR CATEGORY THREE, UH, EXPENSES.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEIR FACILITIES? YEAH, THAT WAS AN IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BUILDING.
I AM SORRY, WHAT WAS THE SUGGESTION AGAIN? I HAD THE ART LEAGUE OF HILTON HEAD AT 80,000 WITH 20,000 OF THAT 80,000, UH, EARMARKED FOR CATEGORY THREE EXPENSE OF FIXING THAT BUILDING.
THAT WAS MY, CAN I JUST SAY MAYBE GOING ALPHABETICALLY AGAIN IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE FAIR TO THE PROCESS AND MAYBE WE GO TO WHO, UH, MAYBE WE START WITH THIS HIGHEST PERCENTAGE INCREASES.
SO THAT WE'RE NOT, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S GONNA BE UNFAIR IF WE GO TO THE TOP ALPHABETICALLY AND GO THAT WAY.
I WOULD RATHER SEE US SAY, OKAY, WHERE ARE THE, WHERE ARE OUR LARGEST INCREASE REQUESTS AND SEE IF WE CAN START THERE.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
LARGEST INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S REQUEST YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
I'M NOT AVERSE TO THAT AT ALL.
WHERE WOULD THAT TAKE US? UM, THAT ONE I CAN PROBABLY HELP YOU WITH THAT.
UM, THE LARGEST INCREASE BASED UPON THE REQUESTED AMOUNTS.
THE ORIGINAL REQUESTED AMOUNTS THAT CAME IN, UM, THE LARGEST ONE WAS NATIVE ISLAND BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS ASSOCIATION AT 95,000.
SHELTER COVE WAS 42 7 40 $2,700.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE AFTER THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, WOULD'VE BEEN THE ART LEAGUE AT 20,000 ALONG WITH THE ST.
OH, I'M SORRY, I FORGOT THE AIRPORT.
AND HARBORTOWN MERCHANTS WAS 21,000.
DO YOU WANT ALL OF 'EM? IS THERE A WAY TO FIGURE OUT PERCENTAGE WISE? SO NOT DOLLAR AMOUNT.
THAT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT, BUT
IF WE RETURNED ALL OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THROUGH THE PREVIOUS YEARS' FUNDING, WHAT WOULD, HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD THAT CUT? RIGHT AT THE NUMBER YOU HAD? 95.
YOU WANNA RETURN THEM? YOU'RE REAL, YOU'RE GONNA BE REAL CLOSE.
JUST FOR MY QUICK MATH, BUT YEAH, IT'S CLOSE.
UM, IF YOU GIVE US JUST A MINUTE, WE CAN DO THAT.
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YEP.YEAH, WE'RE GONNA BE VERY CLOSE.
CAN CAN WE PUT THE NUMBERS IN THAT COLUMN SECOND ROUND SO WE CAN ALL VISUALIZE THIS? SORRY, THEY'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER COLUMN TO PUT IN THE QUE WELL, YOU CAN SHOW THE 25.
YOU WANNA SHOW THEM JUST ROUND, JUST PUT IN SECOND ROUND.
BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE YOU MENTIONED, WE'VE ALREADY CUT THEIR REQUEST.
SO WHAT NUMBER DO YOU WANT IN THE SECOND ROUND? JUST THE ONES WHERE THE, THE ONES, THE NUMBERS YOU JUST GAVE US.
JUST THE ONES WITH THE INCREASE? YEAH.
SO YOU WANT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY REQUESTED THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU JUST GAVE US? YOU JUST WANT THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT ROUND IN THAT YEAH, I DO.
VERSUS LAST YEAR VERSUS THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE THE, I THINK IT'S THE NEW AMOUNT IF WE CUT WHAT THEY WERE, ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THEY WERE ASKING FOR.
SO I GUESS IT'S THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT TO SEE HOW MUCH IS, I GUESS HE'S TRYING TO LOOK AT EACH PARTICULAR ONE AND HOW MUCH MORE THAT WOULD'VE CUT FROM OUR FIRST ROUND RECOMMENDATION.
SO AS YOU GO THROUGH, WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY REQUESTED AND PUT AND CUT THAT BECAUSE YOU JUST GAVE US LIKE FIVE AND THE QUICK MATH THAT I DID, IT'S PRETTY MUCH RIGHT AT THIS NUMBER.
SO, BUT I'D LIKE TO, I THINK WE'D ALL JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGE, THOSE FIVE.
SO, SO LET'S LOOK AT THOSE FIVE.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU MAKE THAT COLUMN AND, AND DO WHAT YOU JUST DID WITH THOSE FIVE ORGANIZATIONS OR HOW, HOWEVER MANY IT WAS? YES.
I THINK THE FIRST ONE WAS NATIVE ISLAND.
SO OUR LEAGUE WOULD BE AT 90,000.
NATIVE ISLAND WAS A $95,000 ADDITIONAL INCREASE.
BUT HE JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE, THEY'RE COST WHAT IT WAS.
SO THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR REQUEST FROM 25.
YOU JUST WANT THE AMOUNT, THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE.
WELL I THINK THAT'S GONNA GIVE US A NUMBER.
AND THEN, WAIT, WAIT A SECOND.
THE NATIVE ISLAND BUSINESS COMMUNITY WAS AT 225,000 LAST YEAR.
THEY REQUESTED THREE 20, BUT THE MAX ALBUMS 2 46, YOU CAN'T REALLY SUBTRACTED FROM, ITS MAYBE SUBTRACTED FROM THE 2 46
WE YEAH, IT'S, IT'S 95,000 WAS THE DIFFERENCE.
'CAUSE IT WAS 225,000 TO 320,000 IS MY MATH THOUGHT.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE.
SO IS 246 WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION.
SO IF YOU LAST YEAR'S BE 205,000.
SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, DO YOU WANT LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT ANY PLACE THAT WE INCREASED LAST YEAR'S FUNDING.
SO YOU WANT WHAT YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR, RIGHT? MINUS THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING, I MEAN, IF YOU PUT IN, IF YOU PUT IN LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS, IT WILL BE A VISUALIZATION FOR US AS, AS OPPOSED TO COMPARING THIS FROM CHART TO CHART TO CHART.
AND WE CAN SEE WHERE WE INCREASED FUNDING OVER LAST YEAR.
UM, BECAUSE THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS WE HAVE TO MAKE CUTS THIS YEAR.
SO ANY PLACE WE INCREASE FUNDING'S A PLACE TO LOOK CORRECT FOR, BUT FOR WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING THOSE UP FOR YOU DON'T, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO JUST TAKE THE TOP FIVE, I MEAN, CORRECT.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE WHATEVER WE FUNDED LAST YEAR IN THIS COLUMN, THAT'S WHAT'S GETTING REALLY COME UP FOR YOU.
SO VISUALIZE, SO HERE'S WHAT I'D LIKE FOR US TO DISCUSS.
UM, AND THIS IS NUMBER ONE, LET'S NOT LOOK FOR JUST THE EASIEST WAY.
WHAT'S THE BEST WAY, RIGHT? AND THEN IF SOMEBODY IS ASKING FOR MORE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DOING MORE, DO WE WANT THEM TO BE PUNISHED FOR DOING MORE? SO I THINK WE NEED TO, ALTHOUGH IT'D BE EASIER JUST TO SAY, OKAY, REDUCE EVERYBODY BY 4% AND WE ADJOURN.
UM, IS THAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO? 'CAUSE THAT THAT HURTS THE LOWEST NUMBER OF A, THE PEOPLE WITH THE LOWEST ASK.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT.
NO, I'M, I'M NOT SUGGESTING IT EITHER, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT US PICKING THE ONES THAT ARE MAKING THE BIGGEST INCREASE IN THEIR ASK BECAUSE IF THEY'RE DOING MORE AND THEY, WOULD THEY NOT BE ABLE TO DO MORE BECAUSE OF WHAT OUR DECISION IS? RIGHT.
I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING, LOOKING AT THEM AND SEEING AND, BUT YES.
I MEAN WE SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
UM, GRANTED IT'S A YEAR OF CUTS, SO WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER DOING MORE IS POSSIBLE THIS YEAR.
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BLESS YOU.THESE NUMBERS ARE THE ONES THAT WERE IN YOUR FIVE YEAR AWARD CHART RIGHT.
AND ALSO KEEP IN MIND YOU HAD FIVE ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS FROM LAST YEAR.
YOU HAD 32 VERSUS 37 THIS YEAR TOO.
30, WHICH ALSO IS A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR NUMBER.
SO LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES IN HERE FOR SURE.
YOUR AGENDA PACKET INCLUDED THIS INFORMATION.
WHAT? THE 25? ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY FROM 2022.
I JUST, I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA VISUALIZE IT UP HERE FOR US SO WE'RE NOT GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN EACH SHEET.
IS THERE ANY, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ON AN ORDER THAT WE SHOULD, UH, DO THIS SINCE WE STARTED AT THE TOP LAST TIME? START AT THE BOTTOM? WE SHOULD START AT THE BOTTOM.
YEAH, WHY NOT? OKAY, LET'S DO THAT.
ONCE UH, SHE'S DONE FILLING IN THIS INFORMATION, SHOULD WE EXCLUDE ANYONE WHO'S ALREADY BEEN CUT FROM THIS AND JUST LOOK AT THOSE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN? I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO BACK UP THE LIST FROM THE BOTTOM UP AND, UH, AND SEE WHAT, WHERE WE CAN GET I THAT WAY WE'RE NOT EXCLUDING ANYBODY OR, WELL, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THEM THAT GOT MAX FUNDING NO MATTER WHAT.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD ALREADY, THEY CUT AND MAX.
SO THE, THE, THE NUMBERS YOU SEE RIGHT THERE WERE THE, WERE THEIR FUNDING LAST YEAR AND THE NUMBERS AND, AND F IS THE FUNDING FROM LAST YEAR.
AND E IS THE FUNDING THAT WE JUST, UM, THAT WAS OUR FIRST RUN THROUGH.
SO LET'S STARTING AT THE BOTTOM.
CAN YOU MAKE A FULL SCREEN SO WE CAN SEE IT ALL WITHOUT HAVING TO SCROLL? MAYBE.
THIS IS GONNA BE SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
UM, JUST TAKE THIS AND SCROLL DOWN TO THE SANDBOX AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO.
STARTING AT THE SANDBOX, THEY RECEIVED $64,000 LAST YEAR.
WE HAD THEM AT $65,000 THIS YEAR.
AND THEIR ASK WAS, UH, THE AMOUNT ALLOWABLE WAS 81,678,000.
UM, DO I HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE SANDBOX? I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND ABOUT 160 OR CUT ABOUT ONE 60.
WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW ORIGINAL $210,000 FROM OUR ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN IF WE WENT TO THIS, IT WOULD BE 4 1, 6, 7.
WE HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER ONE 60 IF WE WENT WITH COLUMN F, RIGHT? NOT COLUMN.
UH, WE, YEAH, WE CAN'T GO WITH COLUMN THAT 'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT APPLIED THIS YEAR THAT DIDN'T APPLY.
UH, OKAY, SO WE ARE AT SANDBAGS FOR, UH, 64,000.
ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? WELL, WE'VE ALREADY CUT 'EM.
WE'VE ALREADY CUT, UM, THEIR MAX ALLOWABLE, UM, BASED ON THEIR MAX ALLOWABLE, WE'VE ALREADY CUT 'EM, UM, $16,000.
BUT THEY ARE $1,000 OVER LAST YEAR'S ASK, IN OTHER WORDS, UP WITH 210.
SO WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH 210.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD CUTS.
IT'S GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA BE EASY.
UM, I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE SANDBOX OR ANYONE ELSE, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS IT.
SO ANY IDEAS FOR JUST FOR THIS ONE OR IN GENERAL? BOTH.
THIS ONE, BUT THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR.
LET'S LEAVE THEM AT 64 AND ON UP AND SEE WHERE WE GO.
GO BACK THE LAST YEAR'S NUMBER.
YEAH, WE, WE'VE ALREADY CUT QUITE A BIT FROM THEM.
WELL WE REALLY ADDED $1,000 FROM LAST YEAR.
WE DIDN'T CUT, THEY HAVEN'T RECEIVED A CUT, BUT, UM, SO IF WE WENT FOR LAST YEAR, IT WOULD BE THE 64.
IF WE FUNDED THE SAME AMOUNT AS LAST YEAR, IT WOULD BE 64.
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CORRECT? WE WOULD CUT IT ANOTHER THOUSAND.WE, I MEAN WE CUT THEM FROM THEIR ASK, BUT NOT FROM WHAT THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR.
LET'S MOVE THEM BACK TO 64,000.
THAT'S THE SAME THAT THEY ASKED THE PRIOR YEAR.
THIS ORGANIZATION IS REALLY HARD TO CUT BECAUSE, WELL, I HAVE A THOUGHT ON THAT.
SO THEY DIDN'T USE ALL THEIR FUNDS IN 24.
THEY, THEY ELAPSED 15,000 IN 24 AND THEY ELAPSED, UH, 11 AND A HALF THOUSAND LAST YEAR.
SO THEY HAVEN'T USED THEIR FUNDS TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
THEORETICALLY WE COULD CUT THAT BACK.
LET'S, LET'S GO BACK AND, AND IF, IF I, AM I CORRECT ON THIS, IS IS THAT THEIR, THEIR TOURISM NUMBERS ARE BASED ON, THEIR TOURISM NUMBERS ARE BASED ON THE, ON THAT ONE EVENT, RIGHT? THE ONE, UH, PADDLE PADDLE EVENT, CORRECT.
NOT ON ALL THEIR ACTIVITIES THROUGH THE YEAR.
YOU'RE UH, YOU'RE CORRECT, ADRIAN.
THEY WENT BACK, IF YOU GO BACK TO 2024 AND 25, THEIR REIMBURSEMENTS ARE, THE REIMBURSEMENTS ARE $11,000 UNDER THEIR ASK.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT? YEAH.
AND THE YEAR BEFORE IT WAS 15,000.
AND ARE THEY, ARE THEY STILL ALLOWED TO USE THOSE FUNDS OR THOSE FUNDS HAVE EXPIRED? SO THE AT TAX GRANT FUNDS FOR THE APPLICANTS ARE GOOD FOR ONE YEAR.
SO THEY HAVE ALL YEAR TO EXPEND THEM.
AND THEN WE ACTUALLY GIVE THEM TO JANUARY 31ST OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR TO COMPLETE ALL THEIR REIMBURSEMENTS.
SO 20, IT'S AN ANNUAL GRANT CYCLE.
24 IS EXPIRING FOR THE APPLICANT? YES SIR.
MICHELLE, CAN YOU, DO YOU, MIKE, THE POINT THAT I BROUGHT UP, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? IS IS WHEN THE OUTSIDE FOUNDATION ON THIS, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER THE PRESENTATION, UM, WAS ALL OF THIS REQUEST FOR THE ONE EVENT FOR THE MAIN EVENT AND THEN IT'S ALSO, THERE'S DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
YEAH, THAT'S FOR THE PADDLE BOARD EVENT.
LET ME SEE, LET ME GRAB THAT REAL QUICK.
WELL LIKE THEY DIDN'T SPEND ANY OF THAT HERE, BUT THEY SUBMITTED OTHER RECEIPTS TO FOLLOW.
THAT'S WHY THIS ONE, SO BASED UPON THEIR APPLICATION, IT'S ACTUALLY FOR, THE NUMBERS ARE BASED OFF THEIR EARTH DAY EVENT, THE WATER FESTIVAL RESTORATION PROJECTS, THE LOW COUNTRY PADDLE FEST, WHICH YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE PINKY ISLAND WILDLIFE REFUGE LITTER AND MARINE DEBRIS SUITE.
BUT THE TOURISM NUMBERS COME FROM THE ONE EVENT, CORRECT? FROM ALL OF THEM.
THEY CAN PULL FROM ALL OF 'EM BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE TOURISTS, THEY ATTEND ANY OF THEM, THEY CAN PULL THOSE NUMBERS FROM ANY OF THOSE EVENTS.
THE OUTSIDE FOUNDATION ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR ANOTHER CATEGORY, WHICH IS OUR WATERWAYS AND, UH, CORRECT.
I LOVE THE MISSION ON MISSION.
UM, ANY THOUGHTS ON THE OUTSIDE FOUNDATION? YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THEY'RE NOT USING THE MONEY THAT WE AWARDED.
WELL, I THINK YOU BRING A GOOD POINT.
THEY HAVEN'T USED THE MONEY SO THAT THIS IS AN OBVIOUS AREA.
THIS IS AN OBVIOUS ONE WHERE WE PROBABLY SHOULD MAKE A CUT.
65 MAY NOT BE POPULAR, BUT I MEAN IT SENSE 20,000.
WHEN IS EVERYBODY, UH, ANY COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON THAT SECOND? WASN'T 15 AND 10 FOR THE TWO YEARS? WELL, WELL THE 15, 20, IT WASN'T 24 AND 11.
11 FIVE, UH, 15 WAS FOUR TO 23 AWARD.
AND THE 11 FIVE FOR THE 24 MAYBE CUT 'EM WITH
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60.$12,000 OF WHICH THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO GET REDEEMED.
REDEEMED BECAUSE THAT CYCLE ENDS THE CALENDAR YEAR.
WELL, FOR THE CYCLE THAT ENDED 23, 24 THOUGH THERE IT WAS 15,000.
WE, WE WE PENCIL IN AT 60 FOR NOW.
UM, I, I WOULD, FOR ME I WOULD SAY, UH, 65.
BUT, UM, WE HAVE A, SO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR 60 OR DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR 65? WHAT DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT, LET'S DO THE THOUGHTS.
UM, WE ALREADY, UH, GAVE THEM A CUT FROM 143 THE YEAR BEFORE TO 125.
ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS? SO HAVE WE REDUCED THIS NUMBER AT ALL? YEAH, WE REDUCED IT.
SO THE 1 25 IS ACTUALLY 10,000 LESS THAN THEIR 24 ASK.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD STAY WITH 1 25 FOR NOW.
OKAY, LET'S KEEP THAT AT 1 25.
UH, FIRST TEE, THE LOW COUNTRY 50 B HAD BEEN DOWN FOR 50,000, WHICH WAS THE SAME AS THE YEAR BEFORE 2025.
THERE WERE 40 FOR THREE YEARS PRIOR TO THAT.
ANY THOUGHTS? RECUSING? YEAH, I'M RECUSING.
I RECOMMEND WE LEAVE IT FOR NOW.
I HAD ON MY ORIGINAL LIST, THREE 50.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, I CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD BE CHARGING ADMISSION, BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY COULD TACK ON A LITTLE ADMISSION FEE THIS YEAR AND GIVE THEMSELF AN EXTRA $50,000.
UM, BUT I HAD ORIGINALLY WRITTEN DOWN THREE 50 FOR THEM.
I THOUGHT THEY SHOULD CHARGE FOR PARKING.
SO WE'RE KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE THEY, WE USE THAT AS A PARKING LOT, QUITE A BIT.
UH, THIS IS A, A DIFFICULT ONE TO CUT BECAUSE IT'S, UH, A VITAL ORGANIZATION FOR THE ISLAND AND IT TELLS OUR HISTORY.
UM, FOR ME, IF I HAD TO MAKE A CUT, I WOULD GO, I'D BE WILLING TO GO TO THREE 90.
UM, I HATE CUTTING ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP IT AT FULL FUNDING, BUT I REALIZE WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, LET'S MOVE THAT TO THREE 90.
WE HAD A SLIGHT INCREASE FOR THEM FROM LAST YEAR, FROM 40 TO 44,000.
ANY THOUGHTS? I'M RECUSED ON THIS ONE.
I WOULD MOVE THAT WE RETAIN THE 40,000 FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.
THAT'S, LET'S MOVE THAT BACK TO 40,000 SHELTER COVE HARBOR COMPANY.
WE HAD THEM A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM THE YEAR BEFORE.
293,000 ON MY ORIGINAL PASS DUE OF THIS.
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SO I HAD NO INCREASE IN IT.LET'S RETURN THEM TO LAST YEAR'S NUMBER.
THE SEA TURTLE PATROL, OR I PREFER NOT TO CUT THEM.
ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? I WOULD SAY LEAVE IT THE SAME.
THE WORK THEY DO AND, AND SEEING THE WORK THEY DO ON, ON A DAILY BASIS, ESPECIALLY IN SEASON.
HOWEVER, SHOW ME THE ONE THAT'S EASY TO CUT.
WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE GETTING YOU SAYS WE'RE GETTING TO THAT ALL HAIRCUTS CODE.
UM, SO LET'S KEEP THAT AT 70,000.
SEA, PINE SEA PINES FOREST PRESERVE.
THERE WAS NO AWARD LAST YEAR, IS THAT CORRECT? TWO YEARS AGO WAS 40,000.
UH, ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE? THAT'S ALL CAP THREE.
I I HAD THEM AT 40,000 ON MY ORIGINAL SHEET.
YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF 40,000 FROM JOHN.
ANYBODY SECOND THAT SECOND? SECOND.
THE ROTARY CLUB, WE HAD NO FUNDING.
SO WE, I GUESS WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THAT.
NEXT IS, UH, PALMETTO QUOTE GUILD.
THEY ONLY ASK FOR FUNDING EVERY OTHER YEAR AND IT'S $8,000.
I SUGGEST WE KEEP THAT, LET'S LEAVE THAT WITH 8,000 NATIVE ISLAND BUSINESS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
WE HAD ALREADY, UM, YEAH, WE HAD GIVEN THEM THEIR MAXIMUM AMOUNT ALLOWABLE AT 246,000.
ANY THOUGHTS? THAT'S A TOUGH ONE.
THEY DID LE LET THEIR AWARD FOR 24 LAPSE BY $40,000, BUT THEY USED ALL OF IT LAST YEAR.
I THINK THAT'S A, UM, ORGANIZATION THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME CHANGES FROM.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THE FACT THAT THEY BROUGHT IN THIS LITTLE GULL VILLAGE IS GONNA BE, I THINK IT'LL BE USED EVERYWHERE ACROSS THE ISLAND.
SO THEY'RE MAKING A FEW CHANGES.
I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THEM WHERE WE HAVE THEM AT.
AROUND 40, AROUND 41,000 OF THAT IS FOR THE GULLAH VILLAGE? CORRECT.
SO THEY, THEY DO HAVE A CUT IN THEIR PREVIOUS MARKETING, UH, CATEGORY ONE EXPENSES ALREADY FROM US.
IF YOU INCLUDE THAT MONEY FOR THE GALA VILLAGE, I'D SAY WE GO TO 2 35.
ARE PEOPLE OKAY WITH THAT? MM-HMM.
WHERE ARE WE? THE MITCHELLVILLE PRESERVATION PROJECT? ABOUT HALFWAY.
OH, WHERE ARE WE? UM, YEAH, WHAT WE'VE GOT.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY THAT SIGNIFICANT YET.
MITCHELLVILLE PRESERVATION PROJECT.
UM, WE HAD THEM AT 2 0 5, WHICH WAS A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S.
I'D RECOMMEND WE LEAVE THAT WHERE WE, I'M SORRY.
HE, HE, TOM IS SAYING THAT 1 91 90 FROM LAST YEAR, UM, I, I COULD FIND IT SOMEWHERE IN, IN THE MAYBE 200,000,
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1 95, WHICH WOULD STILL MARKET AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR AND SHOW, UH, UH, AN INCREASE IN INVESTMENT.THIS PROJECT IS COURSE AND ONE OF THE MAIN HIGH LOAD GOALS FOR THE WHOLE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE PAST 35 YEARS.
LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY THAT IT'S MORE THAN LAST YEAR VERSUS IT'S LESS THAN WHAT THEY ASKED.
WE HAD CUT FROM A HUNDRED TO 95.
UM, I WOULD PROBABLY, FOR ME, I WOULD PROBABLY KEEP THAT WHERE IT IS.
WE ALREADY MADE A CUT UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS ANOTHER IDEA.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AS YOU REMEMBER, I RECOMMENDED 75.
SO THOUGHTS, I MEAN, I HAD, I HAD 90 WRITTEN DOWN ON MY ORIGINAL LIST.
WAIT, UH, LET'S, LET'S PENCIL THAT.
SO, UM, PENCIL THAT IN FOR 90,000.
LOW COUNTRY GOLF, OF COURSE, OWNERS ASSOCIATION, THEY RECEIVED A HUNDRED, UH, JOHNS RECUSING HIMSELF, THEY, THEY RECEIVED 150 LAST YEAR.
WE GAVE 'EM A HUNDRED THIS YEAR.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRIOR YEARS, THEY WERE AT $50,000 JUST A FEW YEARS AGO IN 2023.
SO THEY'VE GONE FROM 50 TO A HUNDRED TO 150.
YOU KNOW, AND THIS FUNDING PICTURE IS NOT CLEAR.
SO IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY THE, THE, THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT DRIVER TO THE ISLAND SHORT OF THE BEACH WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
SO I, I'M REALLY HESITANT TO, TO CUT THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE THE OTHER FUNDING COMES FROM AND HOW IT WAS MANAGED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO I I WOULD HATE TO CUT THEM TO THE POINT THAT THEY AREN'T ABLE TO PROMOTE TO PREVIOUS YEARS LEVELS.
SO I I WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION YOU WERE REFERRING TO BEFORE THAT RECEIVES THAT WAS BACK TO RECEIVING THEIR FIRE FUNDING.
AND THE, AND THE PARTICIPATION OF THE VCB TO WHICH LEVEL.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THOSE QUESTIONS WITH THE PRESENTATION AND DIDN'T REALLY GET CLEAR ANSWERS AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS.
UM, AND DAVE, YOU MENTIONED DURING THIS, UH, DISCUSSION EARLIER THAT YOU FELT THERE WAS SOME DUPLICATION IN THE MARKETING.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT IT WOULD, I THOUGHT WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THEIR LEADS GO RIGHT DIRECTLY TO THE CHAMBER WEBSITE, THAT THERE COULD BE SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE THERE BETWEEN THE DMO AND THIS ORGANIZATION.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT, THAT'S A BUSINESS THOUGHT.
THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT A FUNDING THOUGHT.
UM, THE NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP A LOT AND I DON'T KNOW WHY I WASN'T HERE THE PRIOR YEARS.
UM, BUT, UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE NUMBER WE CAME UP WITH ALREADY TODAY.
'CAUSE THAT'S DOWN FROM WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING QUITE A BIT.
I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RECOMMEND CUTTING 'EM ANYMORE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO WE'LL LEAVE THAT AT A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR NOW.
NEXT LONG COVE CLUB, WE HAD THEM AT THEIR, WE HAD THEM AT THEIR MAX REIMBURSABLE 63,220.
I THINK THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT, DID THEY POSSIBLY HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM LAST YEAR'S SPENDING? IT WAS A SMALL AMOUNT.
I THINK IT'S A TRANSPORTATION REIMBURSEMENT WHERE WE PREPAY AND THEN THEY GIVE IT BACK.
UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS, IT'S A LOT OF PRESS FOR HILTON HEAD.
AND THEY MADE A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND THEIR COMMUNITY,
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UH, PARTICIPATES HIGHLY BASED ON WHAT SHE, SHE PRESENTED.UM, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THAT.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING, UH, MUCH BETTER, THERE'S NOT MUCH BETTER MARKETING THAN HILTON HEAD BEING ON TV FOR A WHOLE GOLF TOURNAMENT.
I'LL BE HONEST, I WAS A BIT SURPRISED THAT WE, THAT THEY PAID FOR THE FUNDING FOR THE, FOR THE RENTAL HOMES, FOR THE, THESE UNIVERSITIES THAT ARE ATTENDING BASED ON WHAT THEY PAY SOME OF THEIR COLLEGE COACHES.
IF YOU WANNA GET A STRENGTH OF FIELD THAT'S RELATIVE TO STRENGTH, STRENGTH THE FIELD.
IF YOU WANNA GET THE TOP PLAYERS IN THE WORLD, WHICH MEANS THERE'S MORE, UH, UM, YOUR VIEWERSHIP, YOUR VIEWERSHIP IS, IS ALWAYS RELATED TO THE COMPELLING STORIES THAT ARE TOLD ON THE TELECAST.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE A PGA TOUR EVENT THAT HAS THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE WATCHING, WHICH IT MEANS MORE PEOPLE SEEING THE COASTLINE OF, OF HILTON HEAD.
SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE THERE IS, IS THEY'RE, THEY'RE A UNICORN.
THEY, IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A LIVE TELECAST OF AN NCAA WOMEN'S COLLEGIATE EVENT.
I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL AND THEY DO SUCH A GOOD JOB.
THEY COULD BE ASKING FOR PROBABLY QUITE A BIT MORE, BUT THEY HAVE SUCH A HIGH PARTICIPATION RATE IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY, WHICH SHOULD BE, SHOULD REALLY BE A, A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, SHOULD WE KEEP THEIR FUNDING ON WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR OR INCREASE IT? IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT YOU
I THINK WE RETURNED TO 20 25 61 8 9 7.
ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? LET'S RETURN THAT TO 2025 BEING ENSEMBLE.
THE, UH, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THE, THEY HAVEN'T ASKED FOR ANY MORE MONEY FOR YEARS, AND THEY'VE, UH, UM, THEY POST GOOD NUMBERS.
I HAD THEM ON MY ORIGINAL LIST AT $50,000.
SO THAT WAS WITH THE HUGE AMOUNT WE WERE TRYING TO CUT.
SO MAYBE 52,000? I DON'T 52 5 MAYBE.
I HAD HIM AT 50 JUST BECAUSE THE, UM, 65% RESIDENT PERCENTAGE.
BUT, UM, SO WHERE, WHERE DO WE STAND? WHERE DO YOU THINK THOMAS? I'M THINKING, UM, 50 ADRIAN.
CAN WE SEE AN UPDATE ON THE NUMBER WE'RE TRYING TO YEAH.
THAT'S NOT GONNA BE FAIR? YEAH.
I, I THINK WE SHOULD, I THINK WE SHOULD FINISH THE, YEAH, LET'S FINISH.
OTHERWISE WE'RE GONNA BE BIASED.
MAYBE NOT SAYING THAT ANYBODY WOULD BE, BUT I AGREE THAT'S NOT SEE IT.
UM, THEY HAD A $10,000 INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
UM, THOUGHTS? THEY'RE SO WORTH THE $10,000 INCREASE FOR THE LAST YEAR.
UM, I THINK IF WE HAVE TO CUT, LET'S GO BACK TO 2025 AND GIVE THEM THE THREE 50.
AND, UH, OKAY, WELL LET'S PUT THEM IN AT THREE 50.
THAT'S THE, UH, RHYTHM AND BRUISE.
WE HAD THEM AT LAST YEAR'S AWARD.
ANY THOUGHTS? THIS WAS THE ONE THAT I WAS GOING TO PASS ON.
UH, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS OF NOT, NOT DOING MUCH AND NOT PERFORMING.
THE NUMBERS AREN'T THERE? UM, THE NUMBERS, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THIS YEAR WAS BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS, BUT, UM, I, LAST YEAR SAID, WE'LL GIVE, LET'S TRY ONE MORE YEAR.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE FOR THIS YEAR, BUT, UH, THIS ONE I VOTED FOR NO FUNDING IN MY ORIGINAL PASS THROUGH.
WHAT WAS THE REDEEM RATE? WHAT DID THEY REDEEM? EVERYTHING FOR 24 AND FIVE.
WELL, IT'S A NEW EVENT, RIGHT? NO, THREE YEARS PROBABLY.
ACTUALLY, I REMEMBER JEFF MENTIONING THAT, UH, HE HAD TO SUBSIDIZE THIS EVENT WITH SOME OF THE FUNDS FROM FOOD AND WINE.
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MM-HMMTHOUGHTS? DO I HAVE A NUMBER? I HATE TO KILL IT BECAUSE I THINK, I STILL THINK IT HAS POTENTIAL.
UM, MAYBE WE, WE CUT IT TO 25,000, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I'D HATE TO JUST GIVE NOTHING.
CAN WE JUST CLARIFY THAT FOR THEN WITH THE, IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR MONEY'S LAPSED EACH YEAR.
WAS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? I THINK YOU JUST MENTIONED IT.
ALL THE FUNDS BE, IT WAS RHYTHM AND BRUISE.
RIGHT? I MIGHT THAT TWO RHYTHM BELIEVE AND WHY THAT'S YEAH.
I'M LOOKING AT RHYTHM AND BRUISE.
FISCAL GO YEAR 23, PAID 24 PAID AMOUNT LAPSED.
AM I LOOKING? YEAH, TWO, JUST PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
ONE, ONE OF THE, I THINK ONE OF THE CONFUSING THINGS IS THAT ON THIS LIST THEY CAN STILL BE SUBMITTING RECEIPTS FOR 25, CORRECT? YEAH.
AND SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T BECAUSE YOU GOTTA GIVE MARKETING, MARKETING IS A YEAR IN ADVANCE, SO SOMETIMES IT DOES CROSSOVER.
BUT ONE THING TOO ABOUT RHYTHM AND BRUISE, IF YOU REMEMBER WHETHER WAS A FACTOR FOR THEIR EVENT.
SO IT CAN IMPACT HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
YEAH, ONE OF THE, UM, ON 20, ON THE 20 25 1, THE 23 24 1 IS PROBABLY THE MOST ACCURATE THING TO BE LOOKING AT.
AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY REFERENCE FOR THEM FOR THAT.
SO, UM, SO THOUGHTS, ADRIAN, YOU SAID 25,000? YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DOWN FROM 40, WELL, FOR ME, THIS, UH, IT WAS 30 LAST YEAR.
SO I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT THE SAME, BUT IF WE HAVE TO CUT, THEN I WOULDN'T CUT IT OUT COMPLETELY.
I WOULD STILL GIVE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO WORK WITH.
FOR ME, THE WINE OF FOOD, UH, PEOPLE HAVE A TRACK RECORD, A VERY SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
AND THIS EVENT, UM, IS A BRANDING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ISLAND IN ANOTHER WAY.
UM, BEING THAT IF I WAS GONNA CUT ANYTHING, IT WOULD BE A SMALL PERCENTAGE, MAYBE TO 28,000.
ANYONE ELSE? WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER TO KEEP IT AT 30,000? HOW DO YOU FEEL THIS, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THAT THIS IS THE PAINFUL PRO PART OF THIS PROCESS, BUT THE, THE, THE CHALLENGE IS THAT YOU CAN'T, AND THE IMMEASURABLE PART IS WHAT IT MEANS TO THE NEXT YEAR, WHICH IT COULD BE SAID FOR ALMOST ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND FESTIVALS IN PARTICULAR.
ONCE THEY COME, DOES THAT MEAN THEY WOULDN'T MISS IT THE NEXT YEAR? SO YOU MIGHT NOT SEE THE DATA WE WANT WITH REGARDS TO AT TAX GENERATION DOLLARS, BUT WE MIGHT NOT SEE IT.
HOW'S IT IMPACT THE NEXT YEAR? IT'S COMPOUNDING.
SO I'M LOOKING AT WHEN WE'VE CHANGED FUNDING FOR THESE, DO THEY STILL MARKET IT AND DO THEY, HOW'S IT GONNA IMPACT NEXT YEAR? SAY, TAX DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO US, WHICH I KNOW IS MAYBE NOT A HEALTHY WAY TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I THINK THE FESTIVALS ARE JUST WONDERFUL AND THEY, THEY'RE SUCH A BIG FABRIC OF THEIR, THE WAY THEY BRING A COMMUNITY TOGETHER, THE WAY THEY GALVANIZE THESE RELATIONSHIPS IS JUST IMMEASURABLE.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOT HARD DECISIONS TO MAKE.
SO IF WE DO TO 28, I WOULD SUPPORT NOTHING, NOTHING MORE THAN THAT.
LET'S, LET'S PENCIL THEM IN FOR 28,000 WINE, A FOOD FEST THAT THIS, THIS HAS A PRETTY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF TOURISTS AS OPPOSED TO RID AND BROS.
UM, AND FROM EXPERIENCE, I KNOW TOURISTS ARE HERE AND GROUPS ARE EVEN BOOKED.
SO I, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS CUT.
LET'S, LET'S, UH, KEEP THAT AT 130,000.
THEY'VE, UH, THEY ASKED FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THEY WERE ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR 79,439.
UM, LAST YEAR THEY RECEIVED 80,000.
SO THE QUESTION, SO THEY DIDN'T USE
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42 AND A HALF THOUSAND DOLLARS BECAUSE THE PARADE WAS CANCELED LAST YEAR.SO IS SO WE GET A THIRD OF THAT BACK, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER? YES, SIR.
SO WHATEVER FUNDS WEREN'T, WERE NOT USED FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
GO BACK INTO THE OVERALL A TAX POT.
SO WITH THAT NEW FUND DISTRIBUTION POLICY, YES, IT TAKEN FROM THE WHOLE IT WOULD BE 33%, WHEREAS THAT'S GONNA BE THE CHANGE YOU'RE GONNA RECOMMEND WITH THIS YEAR'S AT TAX DOLLARS IS TO RETURN IT BACK AT A HUNDRED PERCENT NEXT YEAR.
THAT'S THE WAY IT WILL BE NEXT YEAR.
HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE DIFFERENT.
SO, SO THIS WOULD COME BACK TO US FOR 2027 THEN? OR FOR THIS ROUND? NO, THIS MONEY GOES, IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL POT.
YOU WON'T SEE THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT RETURN UNTIL THE 2027 AT TAX.
BUT THEY STILL HAD EXPENSES, CORRECT.
I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS RAINED OUT, RIGHT? YOU WOULD STILL NOT KNOWING WHAT THEIR BOOKS LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW, BUT FROM A, BASED UPON WHEN I USED TO DO EVENTS, YES.
'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS ARE DONE AND YOU'RE HELD TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, THE LOCKS ARE DONE.
AND IF YOU, UH, IF WE CAN REMEMBER, PART OF THE REASON THAT THEY ASKED FOR AN INCREASE THIS YEAR WAS BECAUSE BUFORD COUNTY, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS REQUESTING, UH, MORE MONEY FOR THE EVENT AND THEY NEEDED TO, UH, DO SOME CROWD CONTROL, UH, FENCING FOR THE EVENT.
THAT'S PIECES THAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR MORE.
UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT TOUCHING WHAT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS.
WELL, WE'VE ALREADY CUT IT $20,000 BASED ON THEIR, YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS ALL THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR.
UH, SO LET'S KEEP THAT AT 79 4 3 9.
THE REC ASSOCIATION YOU GIVE THEM AT 75,000.
THIS DISCOVERS THREE DIFFERENT FESTIVALS.
SO, UH, AND ALL OF 'EM I THINK HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF SUCCESS.
UH, OF COURSE THE TOURIST PERCENTAGE VARIES BETWEEN THE THREE OF 'EM.
UM, OYSTER FESTIVAL IS THIS SATURDAY, I THINK.
RIGHT? I I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE LEAVE IT ALONE.
OR IF WE HAVE TO CUT NO MORE THAN $5,000.
UM, I HATE TO CUT FROM ANY ORGANIZATION.
UH, THIS ORGANIZATION ALSO RECEIVES OTHER FUNDING FROM THE TOWN.
THEY, THEY DO THE, THE ROAD RACES.
THEY, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT COME JUST FOR THEIR FUN FESTIVALS.
YEAH, THEY'RE GREAT FESTIVALS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THEIR FESTIVALS.
LET'S LEAVE 'EM WHERE THEY ARE FOR NOW AND SEE WHERE WE ARE.
LET'S KEEP THEM AT 75,000 AND KEEP MOVING THE LAND TRUST OF HILTON HEAD 47TH.
I HAD ALREADY MOVED THEM TO LAST YEAR'S.
I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT THEIR CAT THREE REQUEST WAS FOR.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT, REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS FOR? MOST OF THEIR REQUEST IS CAT THREE.
WHAT IS THE SIGNAGE? MIGHT HAVE BEEN SIGNAGE.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE REALLY GOOD NUMBERS.
I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING THEM TO 40,000.
THESE ARE ALL, CAN WE SEE WHAT THE CAT, SHE'S LOOKING UP THE CAT THREE REQUEST.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE MOSTLY CATEGORY THREE EXPENSES.
SHE'S LOOKING UP WHAT THEY ARE.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE CONSIDER MAYBE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, BENCH SEATING, ARBOR WORK, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITY ITSELF.
NOT THE ISLAND BRIDGE ASSOCIATION.
WE HAD THEM AT 17,000 THIS YEAR.
I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING THEM BACK TO 15,000.
THE HILTON DAD AIRPORT ASKED FOR $25,000 OVER LAST YEAR.
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RECOMMEND MOVING THEM BACK TO LAST YEAR'S NUMBER.COULD WE GO TO ONE 60? I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT SPLIT IT.
DO YOU REMEMBER THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE? 1 62 5
THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE DOING HUGE UPGRADES THERE.
AND THEY, AND THEY ALL THE, THIS IS THEIR, THEIR MARKETING BUDGET HAS TO BE DONE THROUGH AT TAX.
SO, UM, IT IS A, IT IS A LARGE PORTION OF THEIR MARKETING.
I WOULDN'T GO BACK TO ONE 50, BUT ABOUT ONE 60 AGREED.
UM, WE ALREADY HAD THEM AT A $3,000 REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS THEIR, THEIR ASK FOR THIS YEAR AT 20,000.
ANY THOUGHTS? I WOULD FULLY FUND IT.
AND SOME, SOME OF THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE ENTIRELY SO EFFICIENT FINANCIALLY.
THEY PRODUCE THEIR OWN, UH, COSTUMES.
THEY'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDED BY VOLUNTEERISM.
BUT THEY'RE, AGAIN, THAT CAN BE SAID FOR SO MANY OTHER IN THIS ROOM.
THE CONCOURSE, THEY LAST YEAR WAS 350 AND THIS YEAR THEY QUALIFIED FOR THE AMOUNT WE HAD APPROPRIATED.
THEY QUALIFIED FOR 3 43 IN YEARS PRIOR.
THEY HAD RECEIVED 360 2 AND 3 85.
UM, WE ALL KNOW THIS IS A BIG DRIVER OF AT TAX.
UM, WE HAD A SMALL PERCENTAGE CUT IN THEIR ORIGINAL ASK.
WHAT ABOUT THREE 40? I CAN GO WITH THAT.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE EVENTS THAT HAVE, UM, A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS.
DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION THAT
I MEAN, I, I, I KINDA STRUGGLE WITH THAT.
UM, I HAD THEM ON MY ORIGINAL GO THROUGH AT 18,000.
UM, I DON'T THINK THEY BRING IN THE NUMBERS THAT, THAT WE SEE, BUT THEY ARE INVOLVED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, THEY WORK WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT, UH, MUSICAL EVENTS THAT IT'S HARD TO REALLY MEASURE WHAT THEY DO.
AND WE DON'T, WE ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY BRING IN.
THEY BUY THE TICKETS AND THE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM ELSEWHERE.
FRIENDS AND FAMILY COMING FROM ELSEWHERE AND, UH, SALES.
I HAD THEM REGIONALLY WHEN WE WERE DOING THE LARGE CUTS IN THE BEGINNING WAS JUST REALLY STILL WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE AT AT 18.
THE AUDUBON SOCIETY, PREVIOUS YEARS, THEY WERE 17,588.
JUST MAYBE TAKE 'EM BACK TO THE LAST YEAR'S.
I LOVE THIS ORGANIZATION, BUT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MAKE CUTS AND I DON'T THINK WE REALLY TRIM ALL THAT MUCH GOING THROUGH.
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HARBORTOWN MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION, LAST YEAR THEY ASKED FOR 29,000.I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF FIREWORKS HAVE GONE UP, SO NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY HELP THEM WITH THAT.
NOT QUITE AS MUCH AS THEY'RE ASKED.
PART OF THIS WAS TO DO A BIG, UH, CELEBRATION FOR THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE COUNTRY.
IF WE GO TO 40, WE'RE INCREASING THEM.
I WAS THINKING 40 PENN LEMON FOR 40.
THE GALA TRAVELING THEATER WE HAD AT 20.
THEY HAVE, UH, UM, THEY WERE NOT RECIPIENTS BEFORE.
UH, I VALUE, UH, HAVING NEW APPLICATIONS.
I WONDER, UM, UH, THIS, THIS SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GREAT IDEA.
UM, HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD ANY CONCRETE PLANS YET YET OF PERFORMANCES ON HILTON HEAD.
UM, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO PROBABLY CARRY OUT THEIR OBJECTIVES, THEY WOULD NEED THAT $20,000 OR SOME PORTION OF IT.
SO, UH, IF, IF THE COMMITTEE FEELS THAT, THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ORGANIZATION COME TO HILTON HEAD, WE, WE SHOULD OFFER AT LEAST SOME SIGNIFICANT FUNDING TO, TO ENCOURAGE IT.
I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE THAT ORGANIZATION COME TO HILTON HEAD.
I THINK IT WILL HELP ALL THE OTHER GO, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
SO I WOULD, I MEAN, I SEE WE, WE INITIALLY GAVE THEM 20.
I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT AT 20.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THEM COME.
OTHER THOUGHTS? I THINK MY THOUGHTS ARE GONNA GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NEW AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE COMING YET.
UM, OR WHAT THEY WILL BRING WHEN THEY DO COME.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT ADD IF THEY CAN MAKE IT WORK.
BUT I'LL GO BACK TO THE ONE I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
UM, IT'S NEW, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY PROVEN THEMSELVES AND WE CUT THEM IN HALF.
WE'VE ONLY, WE'VE ONLY GIVEN THEM HALF OF WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.
SO I WOULD, I'D BE MORE WILLING TO, I BELIEVE I BELIEVE IN IT.
I'M, LIKE I SAID, TRYING TO GET TICKETS TO THE ONE SHOW IN BEAUFORT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY GIVE THEM HALF OF WHAT THEY ASKED FOR TOO.
SO THAT WOULD CUT THEM DOWN TO 12 FIVE.
UM, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT? CECILE WANTS TO STAY AT 20.
DAVE WANTS TO MOVE TO 12 FIVE.
COULD WE GO TO 15 AND THEN, AND THEN 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO THE ROUND THREE.
IS IT, ARE PEOPLE GOOD WITH THAT? YEAH.
UH, WE HAD ALREADY, UH, CUT THEM FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR BY 20,000.
I SAY, I SAY WE LEAVE IT AT THAT AS WELL.
THE CARMINES MEMORIAL FOUNDATION.
WE HAD A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
I HAD THEM ON MY ORIGINAL PASS THROUGH AT 180 5.
THOUGHTS ON RETURNING THEM TO 2025 OR? WELL, UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF.
THEY ELAPSED 25,000 IN THEIR LAST YEAR'S GRANT.
THEY DIDN'T USE, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A LARGE NUMBER OUT OF THE 181,000 THEY WERE AWARDED.
THEY DID NOT USE 25,000 IN THE 20.
YOU'RE TALKING IN THE 2324 CYCLE? YES.
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24 25 CYCLE.7,900, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2324, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR THEY SPENT PRETTY MUCH THEIR WHOLE ASK.
THE YEAR BEFORE THAT WAS 24 9.
AND I DID NOT HAVE THAT HISTORY.
SO FOR LAST YEAR IT WAS 8,000.
LET'S NOT, LET'S NOT DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S AWARD, BUT NOT SORT BE 180 5.
UM, EVERYBODY OKAY WITH 180 5? LET'S PUT THAT AT 180 5.
THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY.
I ORIGINALLY HAD THIS AT, UH, ZERO FOR ME, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A LOCAL EVENT.
I UNDERSTAND THE POSSIBILITIES OF IT, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF $5,000 IS GONNA MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT LOCAL EVENT.
I REMEMBER ASKING HER, SHE WAS, THEY WERE LIMITED IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE VENUE.
THEY HAD IT AT THE CONCOURSE LAST YEAR.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED HER WAS THAT, IS SHE LOOKING AT BIGGER VENUES? AND SHE SAID, YEAH, SHE'S TALKING TO THREE OF 'EM NOW SO SHE COULD INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE EVENT.
WOULD I LOVE TO SEE THEM INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME INTO TOWN FOR THE EVENT? YES.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S $5,000.
I MEAN, IT CAN HELP GIVE 'EM A JUMPSTART.
UM, I THINK LIKE MANY OF THESE WHERE WE HAVE TO CUT, IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, TO ADDITIONALLY SEEK OUT AN ADDITIONAL SPONSOR FOR THEIR EVENTS.
SO I FEEL LIKE I'D RATHER LEAVE THAT $5,000 THAN THE BEACH CAT
I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT ARGUING FOR IT.
I JUST TRYING, I'M JUST SEEING THAT, SEEING THAT SOME OF THE VIDEO OF THE BEACH CAT EVENT OVER THE WEEKEND.
UM, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU GUYS FEEL? THIS IS THE JERSEYS.
AND, AND SO WHY IS IT NOT CALLED THAT HERE VERSUS THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW COUNTRY? IS THE USE IN THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION IS THEIR NON-PROFIT, UM, ORGANIZATION? YEAH.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LOOK BACK.
THERE'S GONNA BE A DAY BASED ON WHO'S RUNNING THIS.
I, I WOULD BET THAT I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A TIME WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT.
I I THINK GIVING THEM $5,000 IS A, IS A SIGN THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT 'EM A LITTLE BIT.
SHE MAKES A HELL OF A PRESENTATION.
UM, AND I THINK THAT IF WE GIVE THEM THE, SOME, SOME GUIDANCE WHEN WE GIVE THEM, WHEN WE APPROVE THE 5,000, I THINK THAT SHE'S THE KIND OF PERSON THAT'LL RUN WITH IT.
I DON'T KNOW HER PERSONALLY, BUT I'VE SEEN HER SPEAK A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW.
LET'S LEAVE THAT AT 5,000 FOR NOW.
OKAY, ANY THOUGHTS? I I, IS THAT, IS THAT FIVE THOU 500,000 OUR REMAINING AMOUNT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IF WE, UH, SO IF WE FULLY FUNDED THE LAST THREE, HOW MUCH OVER WOULD WE BE? OR IF, IF WE PUT THE ART LEAD BACK DOWN TO 80,000 AND AND HAD 4 47 THERE AND, AND HAD THE BEACH CAT AT 50, IT'D BE $13,000 AWAY.
WHEN YOU GUYS LOOK AT THOSE TOP THREE NUMBERS RIGHT THERE, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, IDEAS? JUST THE TOP THREE.
'CAUSE I, I KIND OF THREW ALL THOSE TOP THREE TOGETHER, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, WE CUT BEACH CAT.
NO, I MEAN, BUT ARE WE DONE WITH BEACH CAT? WELL, GOING BACK TO BEACH CAT.
GOING BACK TO BEACH CAT SAILORS, I THINK THAT THE, UH, MARKETING REQUEST FOR THE EVENT WAS RIGHT AT 20,000.
AM I CORRECT? THE ORIGINAL AND THEN I THINK THEY MOVED IT, RIGHT.
THEY DID MOVE IT BASED UPON BEING A NEW NEWER APPLICANT, WHICH THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY THE PAUL MILLER FUND.
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UM, THEY WERE CONFUSED AS TO WHAT CATEGORIES TO UTILIZE.SO HE DID RESUBMIT A BUDGET, BUT IT WAS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENCE FROM THE ORIGINAL.
SO WHAT IS IT NOW? HE'S, HE PUT EVERYTHING I SEE A LONG SUM.
IT'S THE WHOLE A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THAT INCLUDES THE INFLUENCERS AND THINGS THAT, THAT HE DIDN'T INCLUDE ORIGINALLY.
BUT I THINK HIS GOAL IS TO GROW IT RATHER QUICKLY.
I THINK THEY HAD DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF BOATS.
I THINK, I THINK THEY HAD 75 OR SOME SOMETHING THIS WEEKEND.
I DIDN'T PARTICIPATE, BUT LIKE I SAID, I WENT PAST IT MULTIPLE DAYS.
UM, AND I, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT'S USING THE WATER.
IT'S USING THE SAND, IT'S USING THE OCEAN FRONT HOTEL.
IT'S USING REALLY, IT'S BRINGING BUSINESS IN.
IT'S PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE HOTEL.
THEY'RE VISITING THE STORES ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY'RE EATING IN THE RESTAURANTS.
THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY HAD SOME GREAT VIDEO OUT THERE I SAW YESTERDAY.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A BIG UPSIDE FOR HERE.
AND WE WERE ALREADY CUTTING THEIR REQUEST 50%.
SO, UM, THIS COULD BE A FUTURE CONCOURSE FOR HILTON ACTUALLY USING THE WATER.
I WOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT CUTTING IT.
IF ANYTHING, I WOULD LOOK AT UPPING IT A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE CUTTING.
I FEEL THAT BEING IT'S THEIR FIRST YEAR, UM, $50,000 IN MARKETING GIVES 'EM A GOOD, A GOOD STEP UP.
UM, IT'S, IT, I I HAVE TOTAL FAITH IN THE EVENT.
SO IT, I AGREE ON ALL OF THAT.
SO, UM, DID WE RECEIVE A WHOLE NEW BUDGET? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.
IT WAS, IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN UPDATED INTO THE, THE FILES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
WE RECEIVED AN UPDATED BUDGET PER LIKE WE DID WITH ALL THE APPLICANTS.
WHEN YOU ASKED FOR OTHER DOCUMENTATION, WE RECEIVED HIS AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
AND HIS IS IN THERE AND HE DID SUBMIT A NEW BUDGET.
SO WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME WHAT IT IS NOW? BECAUSE THE ENTIRE BUDGET WAS A HUNDRED TO BEGIN WITH.
IT IS THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, HE, HE BEING NEWER, LIKE OBVIOUSLY PAUL MILLER WAS PAUL MILLER FUND BEFORE, BUT HE WAS KIND OF RELATIVELY NEW TO DOING THE BUDGET.
AND THEY, ONE THING THAT THEY DID RECOGNIZE WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT BUDGET, THE WAY WHOEVER WAS HELPING HIM DID THAT BUDGET, THEY HAD TWO LINE ITEMS AND THEY HAD SEPARATED.
ONE SAID OVERALL BUDGET, AND ONE SAID LIKE F 18 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS, REGATTA OR WHATEVER.
AND IT WAS ACTUALLY BOTH THOSE COLUMNS.
BUT THAT WASN'T CLEAR BECAUSE THE COLUMN WAS TOTALED OVERALL.
SO THAT WAS ONE THING HE CORRECTED.
AND WHEN HE CORRECTED EVERYTHING, IT ENDED UP BEING THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO IT WAS A MISSTEP, EVEN IN THEIR BUDGET CALCULATION, HOW IT WAS PRESENTED.
I BELIEVE HE DID A LOT, QUITE A BIT OF SELF-FUNDING TOO.
RIGHT? HE BOUGHT, PURCHASED THE BOATS.
THE OTHER THING, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE I SAW WAS THAT THEY, UM, THEY THE, IT WAS A FAIRLY GREEN EVENT.
THEIR, UH, THEY EVEN HAD SOLAR POWERED, UH, AV.
SO, BUT WE, BUT WE HAVE THAT AT 50,000.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO CHANGE THAT FOR ME? I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER.
SO LET'S KEEP THAT AT 50,000 FOR NOW.
THE ART CENTER, UM, THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF AS PREVIOUS YEARS.
WE ALL KNOW THE VALUE THEY PROVIDE.
ANY THOUGHTS? IT WAS FOUR 30 IN 2024 MAYBE.
IS THERE SECOND FOR FOUR 40? I CAN LOOK AT THAT.
I HATE CUTTING INTO DRIVERS, BUT I KNOW THAT DRIVE THE AT TAX FUNDS AS IT IS.
BUT IF FOUR 40 IS A NUMBER WE CAN GO THERE.
SO, UM, THE ART LEAGUE $80,000 THE YEAR BEFORE AND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS WHAT THEY ASKED FOR THIS YEAR.
THE EXTRA 20,000 BEING TO REPAIR THAT BUILDING.
SO YOU NEED TO KEEP RETURNING THEM TO 80,000.
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MM-HMMMS. PENCIL IN FOR 80,000, SO WE SHOULD BE, WE'RE $56,000 OVER PROGRESS.
SO I GUESS THAT'S, WE MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT.
ARE THERE STILL ANY, ANY PLACES WE HAVEN'T MADE CUTS? UM, WE DIDN'T, WE DID NOT MAKE A CUT ON THE DANCE THEATER, I THINK.
UM, DO NOT THINK WE MADE A CUT ON THE CHORAL SOCIETY.
WELL THE AIRPORT OF FUNDING IS INCREASED.
THE REC ASSOCIATION IS STAYED THE SAME.
THE WINE OF FOOD FEST REMAINED THE SAME.
THE SYMPHONY WE CUT FROM THEIR ASK IN ENSEMBLE.
WE CUT, WE PRETTY MUCH MADE CUTS ALL AROUND.
UH, CAN YOU KEEP, UH, SCROLLING DOWN? WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SHELTER COVE HARBOR COMPANY FOR ONE SECOND AND WITHIN THEIR BUDGET, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY COMES FROM THE MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION? WE ARE GETTING CLOSER.
WE NEED, THIS WOULD NOT BE EASY.
IS ANY WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHERE WE COULD LOOK FOR A CUT? WE'RE LOOKING AT $56,000.
THIS IS JUST A, JUST A THOUGHT.
WHERE DID WE TAKE THE FIVE HIGHEST AWARDS AND CUT EACH BY 5,000? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE 10.
I DIDN'T THINK, I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE ASKING FOR AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION.
UM, SOME, I MEAN, UH, IN REGARDS TO THAT IDEA, SOME, ONE OF THE HARD PARTS OF THIS IS THAT YOU SEE EVERY ORGANIZATION IS WORTHY OF SUPPORT ON THIS LIST.
AND THEN YOU SEE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DRIVERS FOR OUR AT TAX DOLLARS THAT ACTUALLY WE KNOW ARE CREATING THIS FUND THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CREATING LARGE PORTIONS OF THIS FUND.
AND SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO EAT INTO THEIR MARKETING BUDGETS WHEN YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE, THAT EATS INTO THE OVERALL FUND FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHAT'S LISTED IN THEIR APPLICATION? THEY HAVE PROJECTED REVENUE SHELTER COVE HARBOR MERCHANTS AT 66,000 SHELTER COVE HARBOR COMPANY AT 12,500.
AND THEN SPONSORS AND VENDORS ARE ABOUT 54,000.
SO TOTAL OF 132,000 IN REVENUE PROJECTED.
AND, AND WAIT, CAN YOU JUST REPEAT THAT? THE, WHAT WAS THE BREAKDOWN? THE MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION WAS MERCHANT SHELTER CODE HARBOR MERCHANT 66,000 SHELTER CODE HARBOR COMPANY.
AND THEN OTHERS WERE SPONSORS AND VENDORS AT 54,000.
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SO THEY'RE CALLING EMAIL.UM, ANY THOUGHTS SPECIFICALLY ON SHELTER CROW ON THAT OR, OR ANYTHING? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE FIREWORKS OR SHELTER COVE ARE, UH, LANDMARK THING ON THE ISLAND, SO THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO TO EAT INTO THAT.
I JUST WONDERED IF THEY HAD OTHER REVENUE COMING IN.
UM, I'M TRYING TO AVOID GOING THROUGH A WHOLE NOTHER PASS AT THIS, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME CUTS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
WELL, HAS ANYBODY SEEN ANYTHING THAT STANDS OUT TO THEM? YES.
COULD YOU SCROLL UP, PLEASE GO DOWN.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS A ANOTHER DRIVER, BUT CUTTING $10,000 FROM THE AIRPORT AND RETURNING IT TO LAST YEAR'S NUMBER, DON'T HESITATE ON THAT.
'CAUSE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OTHER WAY TO ADVERTISE.
THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT MONEY UP.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT IMPROVING THEIR ADVERTISING AND HAVING A VERY EFFECTIVE CAMPAIGN LOOKING INTO NEXT YEAR.
SO IT BECOMES HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE SHARE THE BURDEN OF THIS $56,000 WHERE IT DOESN'T CRIPPLE ANYONE? OR DO WE SHARE IT SO THAT IT'S, 'CAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS NOW TO THE EXTENT THAT EVERYONE HAS ALREADY TAKEN A BIT OF A HAIRCUT.
AND WE'RE ALL FEELING THE PAIN OF YEAH.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE, ARE THERE WAYS THEY COULD BAKE UP A CUT SOMEWHERE ELSE? THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT MIGHT HAVE THAT ABILITY? IS THERE, IS THERE A MEANS BY WHICH AN APPLICANT CAN REQUEST CONSIDERATION FROM TOWN COUNCIL AFTER OUR RECOMMENDATION IS MADE? IS THERE A FORMAL PROCESS BY WHICH THEY DO THAT? I MEAN, PUBLIC COMMENT'S ALWAYS OPEN FOR ANYBODY TO SPEAK TO TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, AND THAT MAY BE THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CAN UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, 'CAUSE YOU MENTIONED ANY OF THE APPLICANTS THAT DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY CUT AT ALL.
IF YOU WANTED US TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE THAT DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY CUTS FROM THAT, DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY KIND OF OKAY.
I'M NOT TRYING TO ENCOURAGE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT.
AND WE CAN GO LINE BY ONE AND LOOK AT THOSE IF YOU WANT TO.
'CAUSE IT IS, YOU'RE DOWN PRETTY SMALL.
THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE THAT HAVEN'T RECEIVED CUTS, RIGHT? LIKE THE VET CENTER IS ONE OF THEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.
YEAH, I GUESS COULD YOU HIGHLIGHT THAT AND WE CAN GO THROUGH IN THE
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SO THE DANCE THEATER IS HIGHLIGHTED RIGHT THERE AS IT IS.UM, ANY CUT THERE PROBABLY WOULDN'T REALLY BE THAT SIGNIFICANT, BUT I ORIGINALLY HAD THAT THEM AT 18,000.
WE PRETTY MUCH MADE CUTS AROUND THE, AROUND THE BOARD, RIGHT? IT'S NOT SO THE ONLY, UH, DOES ANYONE SEE ANYTHING THERE? DO WE DO SMALL ONES TO THESE AND THEN START OVER? WE COULD DO, UH, 18,000 ON THE DANCE THEATER.
UM, I HATE MAKING ANY CUTS HERE AND IT'S HARD, BUT, UM, WE ARE CUTTING EVERYBODY EXCEPT THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
I WOULD SAY 18 ON THE DANCE THEATER.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE REC ASSOCIATION, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT DOWN BY THREE OR $4,000.
MAYBE IF WE TAKE UP TO $5,000 OFF THE ONES WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE.
SO LET'S LOOK AT 18,000 OF DANCE THEATER.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT OR THOUGHTS? WHAT IF THE REC ASSOCIATION'S AT 70,000? ANY OBJECTIONS OR THOUGHTS? I KNOW THERE'S OBJECTIONS, BUT ANY THOUGHTS PEOPLE CAN BE AFFILIATED UPON THEM TOO? NO, THEY DO, THEY DO.
LET'S MOVE THAT TO 1 25, UH, ENO QUILT GUILD.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA REALLY MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, BUT JUST MEANS I HATE CUTTING.
THAT'S A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR BUDGET.
IF WE KEEP SEA TURTLE PATROL IS 70,000.
WHAT IS WHERE WE AT RIGHT NOW? I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT WHEN THEY'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT WE DON'T.
AND THEY DO HAVE A, THEY HAVE A REQUEST OF THE TOWN FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE 2026 FOR 97 5 FUNDING.
SO WHAT DO I HAVE A NUMBER? 43 1 4 4.
I THINK WE'RE TALKING FOR FIRST SEA TOTAL PATROL.
DO I HAVE A NUMBER? 65? ANY THOUGHTS? IS THERE A SECOND? FIRST 65 ON THE SEA.
UH, ONE OF THE APPLICANTS, UM, A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THEM HAD STATED THEY WANTED TO WITHDRAW THEIR APPLICATION, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT TO HELP OUT.
SO, UM, THEY WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND WITHDRAW AND WE'LL FOLLOW BACK UP WITH A FORMAL REQUEST IN WRITING FROM FOR STAFF, BUT THEY WANTED TO GO AND WITHDRAW THAT THIS TIME.
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HEY, WHO ELSE NEXT? WHO ELSE CAN YOU CALL HEATHER? START MAKING SOME PHONE CALLS.UM, SO THAT PUTS US AT $38,000.
YOU KNOW, IN YEARS PAST, I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, LET'S MAKE UP THAT MONEY.
BUT THIS YEAR WE, WE WERE, WE ARE TASKED WITH COMING IN AT THE, AT THE NUMBER.
SO, UM, THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE VERY TOUGH CUTS.
SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE DECISION ON C TURTLE PATROL? WE HAD A, WE HAD A NUMBER 65 THROWN OUT THERE.
DOES ANYBODY AGREE WITH THAT OR DISAGREE? ALL RIGHT.
THAT PUTS US AT 33,000, MORE OR LESS THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER APPLICANT.
IT'S TRUE, BUT IF HE TAKES A THOUSAND DOLLARS OFF, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT CAN LOOK AT THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING AFFILIATED FUNDING, MAYBE.
SO WE LOOKED AT, SEE WE HAVE, UH, ISLAND REC AND COASTAL DISCOVERY THAT HAVE, UH, APPLICATION REQUESTS IN FRONT OF THE TOWN ALONG, ALONG WITH SEA TURTLE AND RICHARD MILLER AND
RIGHT? SORRY MR. UM, THERE'S FOUR OF 'EM.
ALL RIGHT, WELL LET'S START AT THE
WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WERE THEY AGAIN? IT WAS ISLAND, RED ISLAND, ALSO DISCOVERY, MITCHELLVILLE AND SEA TURTLE.
YOU HAVE THE AMOUNTS THEY'RE REQUESTING.
I I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IS THE REC CENTER, BUT, UM, THAT'S A COUNCIL FOR AN AGENCY FOR IT'S FOR RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
AND THE REQUEST IS JUST FOR THOSE THREE FESTIVALS, SO I DON'T THINK YOU CAN NECESSARILY COMPARE THEM.
NOT SURE THAT'S APPLES AND APPLES.
THE ONLY THING IS WITH SOME OF THE FESTIVALS, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE MAKE A SMALL CUT, WHICH I REALLY DON'T WANT TO, THESE FESTIVALS ARE WONDERFUL.
IF WE MAKE A SMALL CUT, IT'S, IT CAN, IT CAN BE MADE UP WITH ONE ADDITIONAL SPONSOR.
SO ARE WE, ARE WE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, STEERING THAT A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THAT OR, UM, UH, IT'S TRUE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE MAXED OUT ON, ON SPONSORS.
UM, I MEAN THESE NUMBERS HAVE REALLY GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO THEY WEREN'T ANYWHERE NEAR OR BEFORE COVID, WE WEREN'T WORKING WITH THESE NUMBERS AT ALL.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ROOM FOR MOVEMENT IN THERE.
I THINK WE'VE ALL GOTTEN ACCUSTOMED TO HAVING A LOT A, A GOOD BIT TO GIVE AWAY.
AND NOW WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING BACK TO WHERE WE USED TO BE.
SO, UM, YES, I MEAN, GRANTED MARKETING COSTS HAVE DOUBLED THE TRIPLED IN THAT TIME PERIOD TOO.
BUT, UM, THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS THOUGH, IF WE GIVE 2000 FROM 'EM AND THEN 1000 OR 5,500 FROM THE LOWER IN THE INTEREST OF TIME THAT WE, AND THEN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL, I THINK WE COULD, YOU COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT EVERY, WE HAVE MADE AN ARGUMENT THAT EVERY SINGLE APPLICANT IS WORTHY OF A HUNDRED PERCENT FUNDING.
SO NOW WE'RE FACED WITH $33,000.
DO WE GO WITH THE TOP 40, 50% AT OF, OF 1200 OR $1,500, WHICH WE WOULD THINK WOULD NOT CHANGE THEIR METHODS AND THEN, AND THEN THE OTHERS WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY LOWER.
OR HOW ABOUT HALF OF THAT? I MEAN, HOW, HOW DO WE DO THIS IN THE INTEREST OF, UH, FAIRNESS, NOT JUST TIME, BUT FAIRNESS? IS IT A PERCENTAGE? THERE IS, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE IDEA? RIGHT NOW THE PERCENTAGE IS SMALL, SO IT WOULD BE LESS IMPACTFUL
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JUST ACROSS THE BOARD.I MEAN, THAT'S A SMALL PERCENT RIGHT NOW.
SO IT WOULD BE LOOKING AT, I I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE IT, IT'S REALLY THE RE THE RELEVANT PIECE TO LOOK AT.
AND OF COURSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA IN OUR FINGER POINTS IS HOW MUCH OF THEIR TOTAL BUDGET ARE THEY DEPENDENT ON THIS GRANT? AND FOR SOME IT'S A HUGE CHUNK.
CHUNKER FOR OTHERS IS JUST DROPPING A HOT PLATE.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT DATA READY TO GO.
I MEAN FOR, UH, FOR ME, UH, I SEE SOME DUPLICATION IN THE LOW COUNTRY GOLF OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND I ALSO SEE LIKE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN THE PAST THREE CYCLES FROM 50 TO A HUNDRED TO 150,000.
UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE ONE PLACE I WOULD LOOK.
I HATE TO CUT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT STANDS OUT TO ME.
I, I, I GUESS I'M OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS.
I THINK, UM, WE'RE KIND OF AT A STUCK POINT OF, OF WE DON'T WANNA CUT FROM ANYBODY ANYMORE THAN WE HAVE.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.
WE DON'T CUT WHERE THERE IS CONTINUED GROWTH POTENTIAL.
I THINK, UM, AS I'VE LOOKED AT ALL THIS THROUGH THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE, UM, SOMETIMES CUTS, UM, CHANGE BEHAVIORS IN ORGANIZATIONS.
AND I THINK, UM, SOME OF, UH, SOME OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WHERE, WHERE, UH, MISSIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR AND THERE COULD BE A LOT OF ECONOMIES OF SCALES AT LEAST FROM, I'M NOT SUGGESTING MERGER, BUT I'M SUGGESTING ECONOMIES OF SCALE AROUND MARKETING.
I THINK, UM, SOME CUTS CAN, CAN UH, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THOSE BEHAVIORS.
SORRY, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT JUST TO KEEP CONSISTENT, UM, WHEN WE WERE STAFF WAS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, UM, THE ONE APPLICANT, THERE'S STILL ONE APPLICANT THAT DIDN'T GET ANY CUT OVERALL THE ST.
BUT YES, THEY DIDN'T, BASED UPON THEIR REQUEST, IT'S A CUT.
BUT BASED UPON WHAT THEY WERE ALLOWED, WHICH WAS THE 79 4 39, THERE WAS NO CUT TO THAT AMOUNT.
IF YOU'RE BEING CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT AND NOT TRYING TO POINT THEM OUT BY ANY MEANS
I JUST REMEMBER THAT, THAT THEIR EXTRA ASK WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD SIGNIFICANT EXTRA COSTS ADDED ON FROM THE COUNTY AND UM, SO IT BECAME VERY DIFFICULT.
YEAH, I'M NOT TRYING TO ADVOCATE ONE MORE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE CONSISTENCY THERE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, MICHELLE, LAST YEAR WE DID THE EXACT SAME THING.
IT WENT THROUGH THREE TIMES AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR EVERYBODY WAS FULLY FUNDED.
ARE WE REALLY FIRM IN THIS NUMBER? YEAH, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, YES MA'AM.
IT'S THE 4 MILLION THIS YEAR AND THEN NEXT YEAR YOU'LL HAVE ANY CARRYOVER ADDED TO IT TO HELP YOU OUT.
BUT YOUR COMP, GOING BACK TO YOUR COMMENT, HISTORICALLY, THE AT TAX AWARD AMOUNT HAS BEEN AROUND THE 3 MILLION MARK.
IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL TO HAVE ALL THESE ABUNDANCE OF FUNDS COMING, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT LOVELY C WORD THAT Y'ALL LOVE.
UM, BUT HISTORICALLY YOUR AVERAGE WAS AROUND THE 3 MILLION MARK.
WHEREAS I KNOW THIS IS A REALLY DIFFICULT JOB AND, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND THE STRUGGLES YOU'VE HAD TODAY.
AND DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT APPLICANTS DO.
UM, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY IT IS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION OVER WHAT WE'RE USED TO HAVING.
SO, WELL, I'M GONNA GO, HOW ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF AT A, A STALEMATE.
UM, MAYBE I CAN START ON, ON THIS SIDE OVER HERE AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR PLACES TO LOOK WHERE WE COULD MAKE A CUT OR TWO TO REACH THAT 30,000 THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, I THINK, CAN YOU SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT? THINK PERCENTAGE WISE, THE ART CENTER, I KNOW IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND THERE'S SOME ROOM THERE PERCENTAGE WISE AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER, I KNOW THE THEORY IS NOT TO GO FOR THE LARGE ORGANIZATIONS AND CUT THEM.
'CAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT AT THIS POINT, WHEN YOU'RE AT A STALEMATE PERCENTAGE WISE,
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THEY'D HAVE LESS OF EFFECT THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS.I WOULD PULL A LITTLE BIT FROM THERE.
ANYONE ELSE? UH, ANY, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER PLACES YOU SEE, UM, IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UH, CONCOURSE GON AND, UM, SCROLL DOWN.
MITCHELLVILLE PRESERVATION PROJECT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COMES OUT TO, SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PEOPLE MAD AT ME IN THAT CROWD.
WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME OF A PER CERTAIN PERCENTAGE A SHARED, IF WE SHARED THE RESPONSIBILITY TO GET TO THAT NUMBER? LESS THAN 1%.
LIKE 0.08 OF 1% WOULD BE LIKE 32,000 BUCKS.
UM, I'M GONNA IS THAT LAZY? IS THAT IS I'M GONNA MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATION.
AT LEAST ONE RECOMMENDATION AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, I MIGHT, I MIGHT, I I FEEL LIKE THE GULLAH THEATER WASN'T THAT PLANNED OUT YET AND FULLY REALIZED YET.
THAT MIGHT BE ONE PLACE I WOULD CUT.
I KNOW I AM PROBABLY AT THE, IN THE MINORITY OF THAT.
UM, BUT I, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHERE WE CAN GET A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT TO GET TO THAT 33,000.
I WOULD PROBABLY BRING THE AIRPORT BACK TO 150.
UM, THEY HAVE SOME GREAT MARKETING STRATEGIES THAT I, I'D LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT IT'S, THEY'RE STILL GETTING AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
UM, AND MOST, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE REALLY IS GETTING AN INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
THEY MIGHT BE THE ONLY ORGANIZATION.
SO, UM, IF YOU LOOKED AT THOSE TWO THINGS, THAT WOULD BE $25,000.
THAT'S THE 15 THAT, THAT THE 15 FROM THE DOLLAR TRAVELING AND THEN FROM, YEAH, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE TRAVELING THEATER TO APPLY AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SUPPORT IT.
BUT I REALLY, IT'S, I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO CUT ANYTHING.
AND THAT'S A, I GUESS AS THE FIRST TIME BASED ON PRESENTATION AND, UM, I THINK, UH, NUMBERS, I, I'M SAYING IT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE A VENUE BOOKED OR ANY SORT OF, IT WAS SPECULATIVE.
SO IT SPECULATIVE WHETHER THE EVENT WAS EITHER WHAT, WHERE IT WOULD HAPPEN.
I REALLY WANT THAT GROUP TO COME.
I REALLY WANT THAT GROUP TO CUT.
I'M OKAY WITH THE GULLAH CUTTING BUT NOT THE AIRPORT.
YOU WHAT? I'M OKAY WITH CUTTING THE GULLAH BUT NOT THE AIRPORT.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? I, I'D LIKE TO BRING THE CONVERSATION.
I'D LIKE TO BRING THE CONVERSATION BACK TO THE GULL MUSEUM AND I KNOW IT'S NOT POPULAR.
I, THE PRESENTATION DID NOT SELL ME ON, ON THIS NUMBER OR ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THIS NUMBER THAT THEY APPLIED FOR.
UM, AND WHILE I KNOW SHE'S A WONDERFUL PERSON AND A STAPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY, I, I'M GONNA GO BACK, I THINK THE NUMBER'S HIGH, UM, BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY PRESENTED TO US.
AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF A, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF A LANDMARK HERE AND, AND SHE IS, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOTTA BE REAL ON SOME OF THESE CUTS AND, UM,
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I THINK THE NUMBER'S HIGH AND I THINK, UM, TO, TO, TO PULL SUPPORT FROM SOMETHING THAT HAS POTENTIAL TO COME IN, ADD TO THE COMMUNITY, ADD TO THE GULLAH COMMUNITY, UM, AND, AND BE CULTURALLY, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR VISITORS AND, AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE TO SEE THEATER, YOU KNOW, FOR $15,000.I MEAN, IF I WERE TRADING ONE FOR ONE, I WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE THE 15 FROM THE GULLAH MUSEUM AND GIVE IT TO THE TRAVELING THEATER.
'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WELL MORE ESTABLISHED THAN, THAN WHAT WE KNOW.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA GO PLACES AND THEY REALLY SHOULD BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
UM, WELL, WELL WHAT ABOUT THE SENSE WE, IT'S LESS THAN 1% OF, IF WE DID A, A ROUND THING ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE 33,000.
HOW MANY EVIDENCE DID YOU, CAN YOU SCROLL? MAKE SURE WE, HOW MANY WE HAVE? BECAUSE THERE'S 37, BUT FOUR MINUS THAT ONE, IS IT ONLY ONE THAT WASN'T FUNDED? SO IT'S 35.
IT'S NOT, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHY THE, UH, SEA FINES, FOREST PRESERVE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY MONEY LAST YEAR? THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T ASK, THEY DIDN'T
SO THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN 1% DO THE CALCULATION.
IF IT, IF WE WERE GOING, I I I WOULD NORMALLY BE AGAINST ANY SORT OF PERCENTAGE ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, BUT IF IT'S LESS THAN 1%, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER AGREED OR NO, I'M WILLING TO HEAR DISAGREEMENT WITH IT.
I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT METHOD.
I, I THINK, I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE A HARD DECISION ON A COUPLE OF THEM.
ALRIGHT, WELL I STARTED, I STARTED WITH THOMAS.
SO CECILE, WHERE DO YOU SEE THAT THERE CAN BE CUTS
UM, THE WINE AND FOOD FEST, I KNOW WE BROUGHT THAT DOWN BY 5,000.
I THINK THEY COULD PROBABLY ABSORB ANOTHER FIVE.
UM, THE RHYTHM AND BREW, YOU KNOW, WHERE I AM ON THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE TO ME HAS NOT, THAT ONE TO ME HAS NOT GROWN IN ANY PERSPECTIVE THAT I COULD MEASURE, UM, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO THAT ONE I'VE VOTED FOR NO FUNDING FOR THAT ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO DO THINGS TO THE SYMPHONY.
WE'VE ALREADY CUT THEM BY $10,000.
I MEAN, I'M STUCK JUST LIKE YOU ARE.
UM, I AGREE WITH THE GULLAH MUSEUM.
I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER, WE COULD BRING THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANTLY PLANNED.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING THAT I LEARNED FROM THEIR PRESENTATION IS THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE MUSEUM AS IT IS WHERE THEY GO AND WHERE THEY ARE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCRETE PLANS THAT I COULD SEE FOR THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE USING.
I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WAS GONNA BE.
UM, SO I WOULD SAY GULLAH MUSEUM, PROBABLY A COUPLE OF THESE TWO FESTIVALS.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE.
MR. FARRELL, CAN I, CAN I, CAN I RECOMMEND THAT WE GO BACK TO THE TOP AND DO AS IF WE'RE DOING A SPEED DATING ON THE, UH, THIRD ROUND? ANY OBJECTION TO ART LEAGUE STAYING THE SAME? NO.
IF, AND, AND IF WE HAVE TO GO TO A VOTING SITUATION WHERE WE VOTE, WE VOTE.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN VOTING UP UNTIL THIS POINT TODAY, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT MERIT THAT WE DO THAT AT THIS POINT FOR SMALL CHANGES.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE RIGHT ON THE ONE YARD LINE HERE.
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THIS YEAR.SO THEY'RE GETTING THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
DO I HAVE, UH, ANYBODY OBJECTING TO 79 GOING ONCE? NO, NOT GONNA KILL 'EM.
ALL RIGHT, SET THIS PUT 79 THERE.
WE HAVE THEM CUT $7,000 FROM LAST YEAR'S.
I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED THEM ENOUGH.
THAT'S WHAT I ORIGINALLY HAD THEM AT, WAS AT 40.
ANY OBJECTION TO 40? I KNOW DAVE IS GONNA HAVE THIS
I, I-I-I-I-I DO OBJECT BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKE, MAKING AN EASY CUT.
AND THAT'S NOT AN EASY, THAT SHOULDN'T BE AN EASY CUT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE ONES THAT ARE STUCK AND COME BACK FOR MONEY EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND HAVE NOT SHOWN US ANY GROWTH IN THEIR PRESENTATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.
NOT WHERE THERE'S GROWTH OPPORTUNITY.
I, I CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT PHILOSOPHY.
HOWEVER, WE ARE STILL INVESTING IN THEM.
IT STILL, IT IS AN INITIAL INVESTMENT OF $40,000 OR $50,000, WHATEVER IT, IT IT IS, IT'S NOT, UM, NOT SUPPORTING THEM.
NO, IT'S STILL SUPPORTING 'EM.
BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S EASY FOR US TO JUST GO THROUGH HERE AND NOW AND GO, OKAY, LET'S TAKE 10 FROM HERE AND FIVE FROM THERE.
INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT ONES THAT HAVE NOT SHOWN US GROWTH OVER THE YEARS, UM, THAT THESE EVENTS AND THESE NEW EVENTS AND THESE NEW OPPORTUNITIES ARE SHOWING US, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I GOT, YOU KNOW, I GOTTA SAY I'M LOVING YOUR PASSION ABOUT
NOW MAYBE, MAYBE THIS WOULD BE ONE THAT WE HAVE A VOTE ON.
AND THAT MIGHT BE THE EASIEST.
WELL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO BE APOLOGETIC EITHER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY BOARD COMPOSITION IS SO CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE DIVERSIFICATION ON THE BOARD.
WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT BUSINESSES REPRESENTED HERE.
I DON'T LIKE BEING THE BAD GUY.
YOU'RE NOT BEING A BAD GUY, I THINK.
I I JUST THINK FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE IS THAT WE HAVE SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF US OKAY.
THAT HAVE NOT SHOWN GROWTH, COULDN'T REALLY GIVE US THE VISITOR NUMBERS THAT WE ALL KIND OF WANTED.
UM, AND I THINK IF WE JUST CONTINUE, IF WE SHAVE FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE GIVING US ALL THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, I COULD, A COUPLE OF THE PRESENTATIONS BLEW ME AWAY.
THEY WERE SO WELL DONE AND SO WELL PRESENTED AND WE'RE CUTTING MONEY FROM THEM WHERE WE HAD SOME PEOPLE THAT, JUST, SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT JUST DIDN'T PROVE TO ME THAT THEY'RE GROWING OR THEY DIDN'T SHOW ME A PLAN FOR GROWTH.
AND THEY CERTAINLY DIDN'T, DIDN'T GIVE US THE NUMBERS THAT SAY THEY'RE BRINGING IN WHAT ACCOMMODATION TAX IS PRIMARILY FOR.
I JUST THINK THAT'S, I ASK A QUESTION.
CAN WE START WITH THAT? LET'S, LET'S, LET'S HEAR WHEN YOU YEAH, LET'S, WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN, WHY DON'T YOU ELABORATE ON THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU SEE? UH, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO PICK AND CHOOSE LIKE THAT, BUT I, I WANNA MAKE A GENERAL STATEMENT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND I SWORE I WAS GONNA BE QUIET MY FIRST YEAR, BUT IT'S NOT WHO I AM.
UM, I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS A LONG TIME AND HELPED A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS, PROFIT AND NONPROFIT AND, UM, I THINK, UM, IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE THIS MONEY TO VOTE TO GIVE OUT TO ORGANIZATIONS.
AND I'LL SAY THIS IN FRONT OF THE TOWN COUNCIL WHEN WE PRESENT TO THEM, BUT I DO THINK IN SOME CASES WE'RE ENABLING BEHAVIOR.
WE'RE SUBSIDIZING, UM, IN SOME CASES, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NOT PROVING TO US THAT THEY'RE GROWING AND THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN THE, THE NUMBERS OR THE, OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL THE CULTURAL VALUE, UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND I JUST THINK, UM, WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THAT RATHER THAN LOOKING AT, OKAY, LET'S TAKE, LET'S TAKE A THOUSAND FROM THE ART CENTER 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY CAN AFFORD WHAT'S A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I JUST, I NOT JUST KIND OF DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IT'S US DOING OUR JOBS PROPERLY AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SERVE ON THIS, TO DO MY JOB PROPERLY.
UM, SO I JUST THINK WE SHOULD LOOK FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT.
UM, AND I'M ALL FOR GIVING PEOPLE ALL THE SUGGESTIONS IN THE WORLD IF I'M ALLOWED TO, UM, AND OR TO THE COUNCIL.
BUT I THINK, UM, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE A DECREASE IN AVAILABLE FUNDS TO GIVE OUT TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND WE'RE GONNA SEE AN INCREASE OF, I THINK WE HAD AN INCREASE OF FIVE OR SIX ORGANIZATIONS THIS YEAR.
IF, IF BUSINESS BEHAVIORS DON'T CHANGE, WE'RE GONNA BE UP HERE SWEATING FOR DAYS, NOT JUST A COUPLE HOURS.
SO I THINK, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY, DO YOU HAVE ANY
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NOW DO I WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
BUT I DO THINK, UM, WE, WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH THAT'S, WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF, YEAH, I MEAN WE WE'RE WEIGHING THE NUMBERS AND ALSO THE OTHER, THE OTHER ASPECTS OF WHAT, WHAT WE'RE OF ATEX OF PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S, THERE'S THE CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, THERE'S THE WATERWAYS, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF THINGS.
AND THERE'S ALSO, AS I LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN HIL, HEAD ISLAND AFFILIATED AGENCY FUNDING REQUESTS ON HERE.
SO THERE ARE SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE GOING DIRECTLY TO THE TOWN TOO WITH FUNDING REQUESTS, RIGHT.
UM, WHERE MANY OF 'EM ARE NOT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK LOOKING AT ALL THAT, INSTEAD OF, IT'S EASY FOR US TO GO DOWN HERE AND SAY, ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE A THOUSAND FROM EVERYBODY AND GO HOME.
UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, MAYBE IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT THIS YEAR, BUT I THINK GOING FORWARD WE REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, UM, AS CAN WE, CAN WE HELP SOME ORGANIZATIONS CHANGE BEHAVIORS? UM, 'CAUSE I WANNA SEE 'EM ALL SUCCEED AND GROW.
AND THAT, THAT WAS PART OF THE SUB THE MEETING, UH, SUBJECT OF, OF OUR MEETING WITH TOWN STAFF LAST WEEK WAS HAD TO DO WITH THAT.
I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS.
AND, AND, UH, AS TOUGH AS THEY MAY BE, WE'RE STILL HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC TASK HERE.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THE GULLAH TRAVELING THEATER, WHILE WE APPLAUD THEIR EFFORTS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND YET.
I SAY WE MAKE A DECISION AND THEN WE GO TO THE NEXT APPLICANT BECAUSE THERE WAS A MO MOTION MADE ABOUT MAYBE WE NOT FUND IT THIS YEAR AND THAT WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO APPLY NEXT YEAR HAVING HAD AN EVENT ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE SOME DATA, BUT I, I THINK WE COULD ALL MAKE ARGUMENTS FOR ALL OUR DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEWS UNTIL DARK 30.
SO, I MEAN, WE CAN GO THROUGH AND START DOING SOME VOTING.
I THINK IT'S TIME, BUT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER TO THROW OUT THERE TO VOTE.
UM, SO SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO PROPOSE A NUMBER.
UM, WE ARE AT BEACH CAT SAILORS.
IS ANYBODY THROWING OUT A NUMBER? I THREW OUT 40,000.
SHOULD WE HAVE A VOTE ON IT? RAISE OR NAYS? RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE FOR $40,000 OF FUNDING.
FOURTH, RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'RE FOR REMAINING AT 50,000.
MY APOLOGIES, DAVE, I'LL MAKE IT UP TO YOU SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, THE CARMINE'S FOUNDATION.
THEY'RE AT 185,000, WHICH IS THE SAME THAT THEY WERE IN 2025.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A NUMBER TO FILL OUT? WE'RE AT $22,000.
SO EVERY THOUSAND COUNTS RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE, UM, A RECOMMENDATION OF 180 2.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE THE RIGHT HAND.
HAD WE HAVE THEM AT ONE 60? DO I HAVE A NUMBER? ANYBODY HAVE A NUMBER? ONE 40? WE ONLY HAVE 19,000 LEFT TO CUT UNLESS YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING TO SOMETHING ELSE POTENTIALLY.
I HAVE A, I HAVE A NUMBER OF ONE 40.
DOES, UH, THE, IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
UM, DO I HAVE ANOTHER NUMBER OR COULD WE GO TO ONE 50? COULD WE VOTE ON IT? ONE 50? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT.
WE ARE AT ONE 50 THEN CALL THAT TRAVELING THEATER.
WE'RE GONNA PASS A HAT FOR EVERYBODY.
CAN I SUGGEST READ THE RANDOM SO THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE FRONT ARE THE ONES THAT GET HURT?
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GO TO THE BOTTOM, THEN THE SANDBOX AT 64.LET'S GO RIGHT TO RIGHT TO THE VERY BOTTOM.
THE SANDBOX, THAT 64,000, WHICH WAS THEIR SAME AS LAST YEAR.
DO I HAVE A NUMBER? WE ARE $9,000 SHORT, BY THE WAY.
IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT NUMBER, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
FIRST OF THE LOW COUNTRY AT 50,000.
IF YOU AGREE WITH 63, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
IF YOU WISH IT TO REMAIN WHERE IT IS, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
OKAY, SO LET'S KEEP THAT WHERE IT IS.
THE HERITAGE LIBRARY, 125,000, WHICH WAS A BUT OF $18,000 FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
UM, DO I HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR THAT FROM ANYONE? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON.
$50,000 FOR FIRST TEE OF THE LOW COUNTRY, WHICH WAS WHAT THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR.
DO I HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR THAT? CUS CUS OH, RECUSED.
I DON'T HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR IT.
SO ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON.
COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM, 390,000, WHICH IS A $10,000 REDUCTION FROM LAST YEAR.
DO I HAVE ANY NUMBERS FOR THE COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM? THEY'RE ALSO ON THE TOWN OF HILTON HEADS AFFILIATED AGENCY FUNDING REQUESTS, RIGHT? THEY ARE FOR AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, I THINK.
DO I HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON A NEW NUMBER FOR THAT? AND THAT REQUEST IS $35,000 MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR ON THAT AFFILIATED AGENCY FUNDING REQUEST.
ANYBODY HAVE A NUMBER THAT, OR DO, DO WISH IT TO REMAIN THE SAME? 3 95.
I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE HERE, RIGHT? I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF 3 95.
DOES ANYBODY, UH, IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
3 95 ACTUALLY GOING BACKWARDS.
UM, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FOR 40,000, UM, WHICH IS THE SAME AS, AS THEY RECEIVED LAST YEAR.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CHANGE IN THAT NUMBER? SO RECOMMENDED USED.
2 93 FOR, UH, SHELTER COVE HARBOR COMPANY.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CHANGE IN THAT NUMBER? THAT WAS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
YEAH, THEY WERE UP FROM 2 44 IN 2024 TO 2 93 AND 2025.
UM, ANY SUGGESTIONS? I WOULD CHANGE? NO, GO TO TWO 90.
UH, IF YOU AGREE WITH TWO 90, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
MOVE THAT TO TWO 90 SEA TURTLE PATROL.
WE HAVE THAT AT, UM, VARIABLE ON THAT.
THEY HAVE A A, THEY HAVE A 2320 $4,000 INCREASE IN THE AFFILIATED FUNDS FROM THE TOWN ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW TOO.
UM, WE HAVE THEN A 65,000 IF ANYBODY HAS A NUMBER.
$40,000 FOR THE SEED PINE FOREST PRESERVE.
UM, THEY DIDN'T APPLY LAST YEAR AND UH, THEY DID APPLY IN
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2023 OR 24 AND IT WAS $40,000 THEN THEY, THEY SEEM TO APPLY EVERY OTHER YEAR.UM, PROBABLY AND IT'S USUALLY FOR UPGRADES.
YEAH, THEY, THEY REALLY, THEY ARE GOOD.
SINCE THERE'S NO, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
LET'S GO ON QUOTE GUILD 7,000.
IS THERE ANY CHANGE IN RECOMMENDATION? NO.
UH, NATIVE ISLAND BUSINESS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
IS THERE ANY CHANGE IN RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT? NO.
MUTUAL BILL PRESERVATION PROJECT.
WE HAVE THEM AT 195, WHICH IS A SLIGHT INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
SO WE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION ON THAT ONE? 91 90.
IF YOU AGREE WITH ONE 90, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE THAT AT ONE 90, UH, 90,000 LOW COUNTRY GULLAH, WHICH WAS A 10% REDUCTIONS.
ANYBODY HAVE A NEW NUMBER FOR THAT? WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD, SHOULD JUST ADD IT ON TO THE NEXT PERSON.
I WOULD PREFER NOT TO CHANGE THAT.
WE ALREADY MADE A SIGNIFICANT CUT THERE.
UM, BUT IF YOU GUYS, IF ANYBODY HAS A NUMBER, THEY CAN CALL IT OUT.
OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
LOW COUNTRY GOLF OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I WILL THROW OUT A NUMBER THERE OF 97,000.
IF ANYBODY AGREES WITH THAT NUMBER, RAISE THEIR RIGHT HAND.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A NEW NUMBER FOR THAT? NO.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A NEW NUMBER FOR THAT? IT'S ALREADY A SIGNIFICANT CUT.
THE HILTON HEAD SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR THAT? NO.
THE RHYTHM AND BRUISE FESTIVAL? 28,000.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR THAT? I HAD A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR THAT.
WHAT WAS YOUR, YOUR, WHAT WAS YOUR NUMBER? MY NUMBER WAS ZERO TO BEGIN WITH.
UH, I KNOW YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THAT? WE HAVE A VOTE ON IT.
IF ANYBODY BRINGS UP THE NUMBER VOTE.
I KNOW, BUT I MEAN, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA GIVE HIM SOMETHING, LET'S GIVE HIM SOMETHING.
BUT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE HERE.
DOES ANYBODY AGREE WITH THAT NUMBER? BE RIGHT HAND.
25,000 FOR HILTON HEAD WINE OF FOOD FEST.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A NEW NUMBER FOR THAT? WE ARE RIGHT THERE RIGHT NOW WITH $344 DIFFERENCE.
DOES ANYBODY WANNA CHANGE THAT? NO.
UM, STILL WITH 79? STILL WITH 79.
YOU WANNA MAKE UP THAT $344 RIGHT THERE? YEAH.
YOU WANT
UM, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE NUMBER? SOMEBODY PUT OUT THE NUMBER AND WE'LL HAVE A VOTE ON IT.
UH, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND IF YOU ARE FOR THAT AT, OKAY, SO LEMME FIND, WILL COVER LUNCH TO RAISE ST.
UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
UH, SIGNIFY IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
OKAY, LET'S, LET'S KEEP GOING.
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REC CENTER, 70,000.HAS ANYBODY WISHED TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT NUMBER? NO.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO CHANGE ANY OF THAT NUMBER? NO.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO CHANGE THAT NUMBER? UH, THE DANCE THEATER.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO CHANGE THAT CONCOURSE? DOES ANYBODY WISH TO CHANGE THAT? NO.
THE MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION? NO.
I DUNNO IF IT'S A, A YAY THING, BUT SORRY.
UH, IT'S VERY HARD TO MAKE THESE, UH, DELIBERATIONS.
SO, UM, SORRY WE TOOK SOME EXTRA TIME ON IT.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, OPEN BUSINESS HERE? MM-HMM
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, PASS THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ON TO TOWN COUNCIL? I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE ACCOMMODATION TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THE 2026 ATEX GRANT AWARDS AS PRESENTED IN THE AMOUNT OF, UM, $4,000,076 AND 992 CENTS.
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS FROM WHICH COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE PREVIOUSLY RECUSED THEMSELVES, ANY GRANT FUNDS AWARDED BUT NOT EXPENDED BY THE RECIPIENT ORGANIZATIONS BY THE END OF THE 2026 CALENDAR YEAR GRANT CYCLE WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD IN FULL A HUNDRED PERCENT AND APPLY TO THE 2027 AT TAX GRANT FUND AWARDS DISTRIBUTION CATEGORY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, AWARDS AS WE'VE, UH, SET OUT HERE.
AND THEN ALSO TO ASK THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO, UH, PASS ALL THE FUTURE, UH, FUNDS THAT AREN'T SPENT TO BE RETURNED TO THE AT TAX POOL, UH, I MEAN TO THE GRANT POOL AS OPPOSED TO THE OVERALL AT TAX POOL.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? SECOND.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC? OH, OH, WE HAVE CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSED CALENDAR FOR 26, UM, MEETING DATES.
BIG THANK YOU FIRST TO ALL OF YOU GUYS FOR THAT REALLY DIFFICULT JOB.
BUT, AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE APPLICANTS WHO STAYED AND HUNG OUT WITH US AS WELL,
UM, BUT DEFINITELY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK ON BOTH COMMITTEE AND THE APPLICANTS.
UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK THEY HAVE PUT INTO IT AS WELL, HELPING TO, TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION TO YOU AS POSSIBLE TO HELP YOU WITH THOSE EVALUATIONS.
SO, MOVING ON TO 2027 TAX YEAR, BUT CALENDAR YEAR 2026.
THESE ARE THE PROPOSED MEETING DATES FOR THE ATAC COMMITTEE.
THERE IS ONE CHANGE WE HAD TO MAKE, UM, DUE TO A HOLIDAY, WHICH IS THE APRIL 9TH DATE.
WE NEED TO VIEW THAT TO APRIL 23RD.
UM, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE.
AND THESE ARE JUST THE ACTUAL MEETING DATES, UM, FOR YOU GUYS.
UM, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS WE'LL BE MEETING WITH YOU GUYS, UM, NEXT YEAR, BUT, WE'LL, THOSE WON'T BE, UM, THOSE WOULD BE TYPE WORKSHOPS, BUT, BUT THESE ARE YOUR ACTUAL MEETING DATES.
WE JUST NEED YOU GUYS TO, UH, TO APPROVE THIS CALENDAR AND WE WILL GET IT ALL SET UP FOR YOU.
THE ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT THIS HAS BEEN MOVED BACK ONE MONTH, ESSENTIALLY PER THE REQUEST OF TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE RAN INTO SOME CHALLENGES WITH IT WHEN IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR, UM, WITH A CHANGE IN BOARDS.
SO THEY WANTED TO MOVE IT UP BY A MONTH, ESSENTIALLY, IS WHAT IT, WHAT IT REQUIRE WAS BEING UP, MOVED UP BY A MONTH.
SO INSTEAD OF THE A TAX, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, A TAX GRANT BEING IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, IT WOULD BE IN THE MONTH OF JULY.
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JULY AND AUGUST ARE STILL BOTH SUMMER MONTHS.IT KEPT IT WITHIN THAT SAME SEASON.
SO IT'S JUST MOVED UP A MONTH, BUT THEY STILL GET THE SAME 30 DAY TIME PERIOD FOR THE GRANT PERIOD.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2026 MEETING SCHEDULED FOR ACCOMMODATIONS TESTING? MOTION TO APPROVE.
ALL SIGNIFY BY RAISING RIGHT HAND.
CAN YOU TELL US WHO THAT WAS?
THAT MOVES US ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THAT WHERE WE'RE AT? DOES ANYBODY SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? MS. BRAD WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
OH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE FORMER CHAIR, JAMES PCO UP HERE.
I, I KNEW I WELL, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU GUYS FOR GETTING THROUGH THIS.
I SERVED WITH THREE OF YOU ON THIS COMMITTEE, UH, PRIOR, AND I SERVED ON IT ALL THE WAY FROM 2018 TO 2024.
UM, I WILL GIVE YOU SOME HISTORY.
UH, THE FIRST TIME THAT THE SEAPORT SEA TOUR PATROL PRESENTED TO US, WE DID NOT FUND THEM.
AND THE REASON BEING IS WE JUST DID NOT FIND THAT THEIR APPLICATION WAS ACCEPTED.
SO WE SUGGESTED TO THEM THAT THEY FIND PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS BEFORE AND TALK TO THEM AND BE INSTRUCTED.
AND THEN WE HAD A SUPPLEMENTAL GRANT THAT YEAR.
UH, 'CAUSE IT WAS DURING COVID, WE HAD ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
AND WHEN THEY DID THE SUPPLEMENTAL GRANT, THEY WOULD FUND 100% BECAUSE THEY LEARNED.
AND I THINK IF YOU GIVE THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY TO SOME OF THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE FULLY FUNDED, UH, THEY'LL DO THE SAME THING.
AND I COMMEND YOU ON GOING THROUGH THAT.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU.
UH, I KNOW THAT THE PAY IS NOT EXACTLY, UH, UH, COMMENSURATE TO THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES ON FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS OF SERIOUS WORK WHEN YOU START TAKING THESE APPLICATIONS IN AND CONSIDERING, UH, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU RECEIVED DURING THAT TWO MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.
BUT, UM, IT'S WORTHWHILE BECAUSE NOW SITTING ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, UH, I ENJOY ALL THESE FESTIVALS HAVE COME, I ALWAYS HAVE ENJOYED ALL THE FESTIVALS AND, AND I ENJOY THEM EVEN MORE THAT I DON'T HAVE TO WORK SO HARD TO KEEP THEM HERE.
UH, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT IN MY FUTURE.
SO I JUST WANNA AGAIN SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
HI, HEATHER ROTH FOR THE RECORD.
THANK YOU CHAIRMAN FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UM, EVEN THOUGH I HADN'T SIGNED UP IN ADVANCE, I JUST HAD SOME THOUGHTS SITTING THROUGH THE LAST, UM, COUPLE OF HOURS I SPOKE TO Y'ALL ABOUT A MONTH AGO REGARDING THE NINE CATEGORIES OF USE REGARDING CHIRK AND THE FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION TODAY.
I HAVE TWO POINTS, WELL, ACTUALLY THREE TODAY AND I'M GONNA START, START WITH THE END.
AND THAT IS, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WHEN THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, NOT JUST THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR ARE HERE, UM, TO DEFEND YOUR POSITION.
MARTIN, I KNOW THAT YOU SUGGESTED THAT SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS GO TO THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, UM, LOBBY.
I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF GETS OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS OF WHAT COUNCIL TASKED YOU ALL WITH.
SO I LOVE YOU MARTIN, BUT I DISAGREE WITH YOU LIKE WE DO OFTEN.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN THE GUIDELINES THAT COUNCIL SET UP, UM, WHICH WAS THE 4 MILLION, $87,000 THAT EK JUST, JUST JUST PASSED THROUGH.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU IS HERE FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
THE NEXT PIECE IS LOOKING AT THE 2027 APPLICATION.
I WOULD REALLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE THOSE TUR CATEGORIES, THOSE ONE THROUGH NINE CATEGORIES, AND YOU SYSTEMATICALLY PUT THAT INTO YOUR APPLICATION.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT AS ALIGNED AS IT COULD BE, AND IT SHOULD BE.
AND I REALLY THINK THAT YOU GUYS JUST NEED TO BE FOLLOWING THAT STATE LAW AND STAYING WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THOSE NINE CATEGORIES.
IT HELPS THAT THE APPLICANTS WILL NOT BE, BE CONFUSED IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR AND WHAT SECTION THEY'RE APPLYING FOR.
UM, WHETHER IT'S SHORELAND RESTORATION OR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PARK THAT THEY'RE SERVING OR TOURISM, UM, MARKETING DOLLARS.
SO I JUST REALLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE NINE CATEGORIES AND YOU LIFT THOSE UP AND YOU PUT THOSE IN.
AND AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS FOUND IN CHAPTER FOUR OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA, UM, CODE OF LAWS.
UM, AND THEN MY OTHER POINT, I THINK I LOST IT.
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GREAT JOB,UM, WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK JEFFREY REEVES? OH, I KNEW WHAT IT WAS.
I HEARD YES, YOU STILL HAVE A 30 SECONDS LEFT.
ALRIGHT,
OKAY, SO MARTIN, YOU BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT OUR ORGANIZATIONS HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND ARE NOT AS, UM, WELCOMED WHEN THEY GO TO BEAUFORT COUNTY.
AND I WANNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT.
SO, UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, I SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE, I THINK 2003 AND THEN AGAIN IN 2007 OR OH EIGHT.
AND WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF CUTS WITH THE DOWNTURN OF THE ECONOMY.
I WAS ABLE TO SIT ON THAT COMMITTEE WITH JOHN CURRY.
JOHN CURRY WAS MY MENTOR, UM, HIM AND ANGUS COTTON, MR. FARRELL, UM, ANGUS COTTON WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE RBC, IS THAT CORRECT? IF I REMEMBER THAT? MM-HMM
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WROTE THE LAW AND THEY WROTE THE LAW FOR THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA WITH SOME FOLKS FROM ORIE COUNTY AND CHARLESTON COUNTY.
BUT THE REPRESENTATIVE THAT DID ENACT THE LAW WAS BILLY KAISER LING'S MOTHER REPRESENTATIVE KAISER LING OUT OF BEAUFORT.
SO THIS IS REALLY A BEAUFORT BILL THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.
THE WAY THAT THAT LAW GOT PASSED WAS THE ROBIN HOOD CLAUSE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STILL BATTLING WITH TODAY.
SO THAT ROBINHOOD CLAUSE SAYS, YEAH, TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, I MEAN JUST IN GENERAL, IT DOESN'T SAY THIS OUT LOUD, BUT THAT'S HOW IT GOT PASSED.
THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, YES, GENERATES THE MOST, BUT IT IS TO BE DISTRIBUTED AMONGST THE COUNTY.
AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND INSTITUTIONAL, UM, STRUCTURE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL THAT SOME OF US NEWCOMERS TO OUR AREA HAVE WHO HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE 20 YEARS OR MAYBE EVEN 30 YEARS, DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.
AND WE'RE STILL BATTLING THAT TODAY UNDER THIS LAW.
SO I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT OF THAT BACKGROUND AS TO WHY WHEN WE GO TO BEAUFORT, IT'S NOT WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS. UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WHICH IS THE REASON I TEXTED TOMMY RE AND HAD HIM COME DOWN.
I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO SHIFT AS WE MOVE FORWARD OR ELSE WE'RE GONNA JUST SEE THAT COMPOUNDING.
DID ANYONE ELSE SWITCH TO SPEAK? I COOL.
UM, UH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR REMARKS FROM ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? UM, I JUST WANNA THANK ALL YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
I KNOW THIS WAS DIFFICULT AND WE KIND OF HAD SOME STUFF THROWN AT US TODAY, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PASSION ON THIS COMMITTEE, REALLY, UM, FOR THESE ORGANIZATIONS, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE MAKING CUTS ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, WE'RE STILL ALLOCATING OR RECOMMENDING TO ALLOCATE OVER $4 MILLION.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND I WANNA THANK ALL THE TOWN STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN SO HELPFUL TO ALL OF US ALONG THE WAY.
YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY WORKED WITH ME, UM, INDIVIDUALLY, SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.
I WANNA THANK THE MAYOR FOR BEING HERE AND WATCHING US GO THROUGH THIS OVER THERE.
HE IS NOT PAYING ATTENTION,
I, AND, UH, I, I APPRECIATE YOU AND PATSY AND, AND ALEX ALL BEING HERE.
UM, AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, TO YOUR GUYS' DECISIONS AND YOUR GUYS' INPUT ON THIS AND BEING THERE FOR THAT.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO.
DO WE KNOW THE DATE OF THAT MEETING? WHAT DO WE KNOW THE DATE? WHAT IS THE DATE OF THAT, OF THE DELIBERATION? I BELIEVE IS, IS DECEMBER 9TH.
UM, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, IS THERE A MOVE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? MOTION TO ADJOURN.
YOU'RE WATCHING BEAUFORT COUNTY TV, LIVE, WORK, PLAY.
I REMEMBER CAMPBELL, AND THIS IS BEAUFORD COUNTY MOMENTS.
I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FOOD TODAY.
THE FOOD HAS BEEN A GREAT PART OF OUR LIFE IN TERMS OF GATHERING FOOD AND PREPARING THEM.
OUR FOOD IS BASED ON THE LAND AND THE SEA.
THE LAND FOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN RICE.
WE DON'T FEEL WE HAVE EATEN DINNER UNLESS WE'VE HAD RICE.
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RICE WAS MIXED WITH VARIOUS ITEMS FROM THE SEA, LIKE OYSTERS OR SHRIMP.AND WHEN THEY'RE COOKED WITH RICE IN ONE POT, WE CALL IT A RICE OR SHRIMP OR AN OYSTER PERLOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE WATERMELONS AND THE SWEET POTATOES.
SWEET POTATOES WAS ALWAYS EATEN WITH FISH AND FRESH FISH WITH GRAVY AND A SWEET POTATO.
OKRA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR FOOD WAYS.
WE, WE, WE RAISED THEM AS WELL AS WE PREPARE THEM WITH SHRIMP AND TOMATOES.
AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD CALL THAT A GUMBO.
AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
AND SO ENJOY THE FOOD OF THE LOW COUNTRY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY MUCH A PART OF OUR HISTORY.
THIS HAS BEEN YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT.
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