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          CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY. 
          GOT A LOT, A LOT OF STUFF TO GO THROUGH TODAY. 
          SO COUNSEL IS HERE, STAFF IS PRESENT, AND MR. STEVE IS GOING TO GET US STARTED. 
          SORRY, I'M NOT SCARED OF FRED. 
          I CAN SLIDE DOWN. 
          ALRIGHT, SO GOOD MORNING. 
          BEFORE WE GET INTO A WHOLE LOT, I DID SEE IF I AM GONNA START US OFF WITH A LITTLE VIDEO. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE SHOW AT THE WELCOME CENTER. 
          I JUST WANT TO GET EVERYBODY IN THE STATE OF MIND BEFORE WE GET GOING. 
          ONE IS THE HAS DEFINED OFTEN AND MY YOUTH THAT IT STILL DOES TODAY. 
          I THINK WHEN YOU WALK TO THE RIVER AND YOU SEE THE RIVER AND YOU JUST SIT THERE FOR A FEW MINUTES, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND I'M QUITE CALM. 
          YOU SEE AS A STATE OF MIND, IT'S A SPEED OF MIND WATER THAT  LIKE RIVER, BROAD RIVER. 
          SO THAT WASN'T STATE OF MIND IS REVOLVING AROUND THE RIVER. 
          GETTING OUT ON THE RIVER TO SEE THE MARSH DRIVE AND THE WARM WAY AND SEEING THE DIFFERENCES THAT MAKE US SPECIAL. 
          THE TIDE, THE MUDS, THE MARSH, CRABS, THE DOLPHIN, EVERYTHING HAS A ROLE. 
          AND ALMOST EVERY FAMILY THAT'S EVER LIVED HERE HAS DEPENDED ON IT. 
          YOU KNOW, FOR SHRIMPING, CRABS AND FISHING. 
          MY FAMILY, I HOPEFULLY WILL STILL BE FISHING AND CRABBING AND OYSTERING WHEN I'M GONE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF GLOBAL FARMS AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE NEW RIVERS THAT MAKES THE CULINARY SEEM VERY EXCITING AND OFFERS A WIDE ARRAY OF OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE FABULOUS RECIPES. 
          AND WHEN YOU'RE EATING GREAT FOOD, THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO HAVE THIS OVER CONVERSATION ABOUT THEN YOU'RE INQUISITIVE ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE EATING THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE ELSE. 
          AND THE SOUTH MEANS DIFFERENT RACES. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S JUST THE IN POSITIVE THAT, THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ADAPT TO THE CHANGES, TO THE FAST GROWING CHANGES THAT HAVE HAS COME TO, TO THE BOSTON AREA. 
          AND IT'S A COMMUNITY THING. 
          WE HELP EACH OTHER. 
          WE CARE ABOUT PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IN AMERICA, IN SMALL TOWNS, IT'S THE WAY IT IS. 
          WHEN WE FOUND THIS AREA, WE WANTED TO ASSIMILATE. 
          WE WANTED TO COME HERE AND BE PART OF WHAT WE BLUFFTON IS, WHICH IS NEIGHBORLY AND COMMUNAL. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AND WITH THE REVERENCE TO THE PAST, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ANY TOWN AND PARTICULARLY LOVETON TO HAVE THESE, THESE BUILDINGS PRESERVED BECAUSE IT'S IT'S MARKERS OF HISTORY. 
          WE DO TRY AND KEEP, YOU KNOW, THE OLD LOW COUNTRY FIELD, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, TIME AND TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO REACT TO THAT AS WELL. 
          AND WE CAN KIND OF PUSH THE LIMITS A LITTLE BIT, BUT STILL KEEP TO OUR HISTORY AND OUR PAST AND USE THOSE AS GUIDELINES. 
          TO ME, THIS IS AN ARTIST TABLE BECAUSE YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT, LEFT UP OR DOWN, YOU HAVE WATER, YOU HAVE NATURE, YOU HAVE HISTORY THAT'S PRESERVED. 
          THE ARTS ARE WHAT KIND OF ESTABLISHED US AS BEING AN AREA FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO. 
          AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WE WANT MAKE SURE WE, WE GRASP AND KEEP THEM. 
          BUT WE WANT THEM TO KNOW. 
          I'M GONNA SAY LIKE MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO SAY  AND WE'VE BEEN HERE Y'ALL FOR COME HERE. 
          SO THAT MEANS WE ARE THE OLD ONES. 
          HERE YOU ARE, THE NEW ONES COMING HERE. 
          LOOK AT THE RIVER SPAN OF SIX HOURS OR OVER SEASON GOING ON THAN RIVER. 
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SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE VIDEOS THAT WE SHOW AT THE WELCOME CENTER KIND OF ON A LOOP THROUGHOUT THE DAY. 
          WE PUT THAT TOGETHER. 
          UM, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENT SET OF VIDEOS WE'RE DOING AS WELL HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO WELCOME EVERYBODY AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING WHILE WE'RE HERE, WHAT THE PURPOSE IS TODAY. 
          AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BILL AND MIKE HERE. 
          AND, UH, HEATHER WILL DO A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, SUMMARY OF KIND OF WHERE WE'VE COME OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          AND THEN BILL AND MIKE WILL GET US STARTED ON WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND THE PLAN WE'RE GONNA SET GOING FORWARD. 
          SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE. 
          WE HAVE MAYOR AND COUNCIL HERE. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, I SEE MAYOR WILLIAMS FROM HARDY, FORMER MAYOR SOKA HERE. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE OTHERS FROM B-G-W-S-A, UM, THE SCHOOL BOARD. 
          SO THANK Y'ALL ALL FOR BEING HERE. 
          UM, I KNOW AGAIN, THIS IS, WE'LL BE HERE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS, SO IF YOU NEED TO COME AND GO AS YOU PLEASE, WE'LL BE TALKING, UH, FOR THE NEXT FEW HOURS ABOUT A BUNCH OF STUFF. 
          AND THEN, UM, WE'LL ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO BE HERE AND BE INVOLVED. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA GO OVER A LITTLE BIT, UM, KIND OF WHERE WE ARE. 
          I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CURRENT INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON, SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND THEN WE'LL BLEED THAT INTO WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          AND, UM, AND THEN BILL AND MIKE WILL TALK ABOUT WHY WE DO STRATEGIC PLANNING AND GET US KICKING OFF. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA DO THAT QUICKLY. 
          I'M PLANNING ON TALKING FOR ABOUT 10 15, HEATHER'S ABOUT 10, 15 MINUTES. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO 'CAUSE WE WANT TO GET INTO THE HEART OF IT, WHICH IS SETTING OUR, UH, SHARED VISION FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY IS WHY STRATEGIC PLANNING IS IMPORTANT IS WE ALWAYS WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A SHARED SET OF GOALS AND VALUES THAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS, THAT WE ALSO HAVE A SHARED PLAN OF DIRECTION THAT DIRECTS OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE US WORKING TOWARDS. 
          THAT WE ARE PRESERVING THE RIGHT STUFF, THAT WE'RE, UH, PUTTING PRIORITIES ON THE RIGHT STUFF. 
          AND BY HAVING THAT SHARED VISION, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON WHAT IS ADMINISTRATIVELY FEASIBLE ON OUR SIDE AND WHAT IS POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE AND DIRECTED ON YOUR SIDE. 
          AND THEN SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE A VISION THAT TELLS US WHAT WE SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHING. 
          SO WHEN WE BRING YOU STUFF BACK AT THE COUNCIL MEETINGS WE'RE DOING SO TO CHECK OFF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE WANTING TO ACCOMPLISH TO MAKE OUR CONTINUE TO MAKE BLUFF IN A GREAT COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE BLUFFTON IS. 
          OOPS. 
          KEEP MORE PRESS UP TO GO FORWARD, WHICH IS NOT THE CORRECT WAY, . 
          UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT, AGAIN, THIS IS THE TOWN'S MANUAL STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, SO NORMALLY, AND I THINK FOR COUNCILMAN BURDEN, HER FIRST ONE LAST YEAR, WE DO A KIND OF A MIDYEAR CHECK-IN OR MID CYCLE CHECK-IN, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. 
          THIS IS OUR, UH, CYCLE WHERE WE WILL ACTUALLY DRAFT A BRAND NEW STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS. 
          UM, AND JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS FOR FISCAL YEARS. 
          THE REASON WE TRY TO DO THIS NOW IS BECAUSE WE WILL USE THE DIRECTIVES THAT COME OUT OF THIS FOR THE BUDGETING PROCESS THAT WE START THE FIRST OF THE YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT STARTING JULY OF NEXT YEAR WE'RE BUDGETING FOR THE PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE ACHIEVED. 
          UM, AND LASTLY, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, SO I'M GONNA DO THE WELCOME KICKOFF. 
          LIKE I SAID, UH, HEATHER'S GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT. 
          THE CONSULTANTS ARE GONNA TALK AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO STRAIGHT INTO THE, UM, DISCUSSION OF STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WITH WITH TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE A WORKING LUNCH AND PRESENTATION. 
          WE HAVE CH JOHNSON COMING IN TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. 
          THEY PRESENTED AT, UM, WORKSHOP, UM, LAST QUARTER ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY FOR PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          SO THEY'LL BE HERE TO TRY TO UPDATE ON THAT. 
          AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'LL DO A SUMMARY OF STRATEGIC PLAN ACTION ITEMS AND WHAT'S GONNA GO INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          UM, WHERE WE ARE, AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT 35,000 PEOPLE. 
          WE HAVEN'T GROWN MUCH. 
          WE DID ANNEX A LITTLE BIT OVER THE LAST YEAR, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE NEW HOSPITAL IS GOING. 
          SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE THERE. 
          UM, JUST SINCE 2000, 14,000 OR GREATER PERCENT GROWTH IN POPULATION, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRACK AND KEEP UP WITH, RENT'S STILL HIGH. 
          IT'S $2,500 ON AVERAGE FOR A THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT. 
          MEDIAN HOME VALUE WAS ABOUT 450,000. 
          BUT I DID A PRESENTATION TO THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION ON HILTON HEAD A FEW MONTHS AGO. 
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A LOT OF THAT'S WHAT'S IN HERE THAT MONTH. 
          WHEN I WENT OUT THERE IN JULY, THE AVERAGE MEDIAN LISTING OF A HOME IN BLUFFTON WAS $525,000. 
          SO THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE MARKET THAT WE'RE WORKING WITHIN AND SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS. 
          UM, WE TALK ABOUT THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT I ALWAYS LIKE TO HIT IT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S, UM, WHERE OUR GROWTH IS TAKING PLACE. 
          THE BIGGEST AREAS ARE OUT ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH, BUCK WALTERS, WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE COMMERCIAL GROWTH. 
          BUT WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF COMMERCIAL GROWTH AT NEW RIVERSIDE WITH NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE. 
          BUT UM, YOU CAN SEE OVERALL WE'RE UP TO 84% BUILD OUT FOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND OUR COMMERCIAL ACTUALLY WENT DOWN BY 4% BECAUSE WE ANNEXED IN THE ACREAGE OVER THERE OFF OF BUCK WALTER, WHERE THE HOSPITAL'S GOING. 
          AND IT ONLY HAS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. 
          SO THAT, UH, ACTUALLY INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL AVAILABLE RIGHTS THAT ARE THERE. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE ACTUALLY WENT LOST COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, WHICH WE DIDN'T. 
          WE JUST, UH, HAVE MORE TO BUILD OUT NOW. 
          UM, SOME OF THE BIG PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON AS JUST A, UM, JUST A REMINDER, WE HAVE TWO HOSPITALS THAT ARE LOOKING TO BE CONSTRUCTED. 
          WE HAVE THE BLUFFTON COMMUNITY MEDICAL CAMPUS, WHICH IS BEAUFORT MEMORIAL THAT'S BUILDING THAT. 
          WE HAVE NOVANT THAT'S BUILDING A MEDICAL CENTER AS WELL. 
          THEY'RE ALL RIGHT HERE TOGETHER ON BUCKWALTER, RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE TOWN. 
          YOU'LL SEE THE, WE HAVE THE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL. 
          THEY'RE ALSO PARTNERING WITH MUSC TO BUILD ANOTHER MEDICAL FACILITY THAT WILL, UM, PROVIDE MUSC OFFICES. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE IN CHARLESTON FOR STUFF LIKE CARDIOLOGIST, NEUROLOGIST, UM, RENAL DOCTORS, STUFF LIKE THAT, THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE A PLACE HERE TO HAVE OFFICE. 
          SO YOU WON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO DRIVE TO MAYBE TO SEE EVERY DOCTOR THAT YOU HAVE TO FOR NOW. 
          UM, THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY MOVING PRETTY FAST THERE, I THINK. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IN THE DRY YET OR NOT, BUT, UM, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO, UM, NVO ACTUALLY HAS TWO FACILITIES GOING IN, UH, RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF WOODBRIDGE, THE BUILDING, A STANDALONE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE AT TIDE WATCH RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THEY'RE ALSO BUILDING WHICH, UH, A MEDICAL, UH, MEDICAL CENTER HOSPITAL THAT I THINK IS ABOUT WHAT, THREE TIMES LARGER THAN THE ONE BEAUFORT MEMORIALS BUILDING. 
          SO THAT IS GONNA BE OUR MEDICAL CENTER FOR THE SOUTHERN BEFORD COUNTY IS RIGHT THERE ON BUCK WALTER. 
          UM, WHICH AS WE KNOW IS A GREAT NEED THAT WE HAVE IN THIS REGION FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO DRIVE TO SAVANNAH, UM, CHARLESTON, EVEN TO HILTON HEAD, TO HAVE TO RECEIVE THE MEDICAL SERVICES THAT THEY NEED. 
          UM, SOME OF THE BIGGER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WE HAVE GOING ON, UH, THIS IS THE TOWNS, THIS IS ACTUALLY, UM, WHAT'S GOING ON OUT OF BUCK WALTER. 
          UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS. 
          I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU CAME TO WALK THROUGH THE NEW BUILDING THAT WE'RE GETTING BACK AS PART OF THIS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT'S RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR PARTNER OVER HERE THAT'S BUILDING COMMERCIAL FLEX SPACE AS PART OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TRY TO GIVE MORE BUSINESS DIRECT, MORE SPACE DIRECTED TOWARDS MIXED, UH, COMMERCIAL USE STUFF. 
          STUFF LIKE PLUMBERS, HVAC SERVICE TRADES THAT WE NEED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT STRUGGLES TO FIND SPACE, UM, AT A REASONABLE RATE. 
          UM, WE HAVE WASHINGTON SQUARE THAT'S GOING ON AT BUCK WALTER, SO IF YOU DRIVE UP AND DOWN BUCKWALTER, YOU KNOW, IT IS A HUB OF ACTIVITY FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK WE'VE GONE TO A COUPLE RIBBON CUTTINGS OVER HERE AS WELL WITH THE CHAMBER. 
          SO THAT CONTINUES TO DEVELOP AND UM, THEY STILL HAVE LOTS MORE SPACE ON THE NORTHERN PART OVER HERE TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH MORE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, WE HAVE NEW RIVERSIDE VILLAGE, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS FROM OUR BRAND NEW PARK THAT WE BUILT. 
          I THINK WE'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE RIBBON CUTS OVER THERE, INCLUDING THE ONE THAT WAS OUR FIRST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE THAT WE GAVE FOR THE DENTIST OFFICE THAT ALSO CREATED ADDITIONAL MEDICAL SPACE NEXT TO IT THAT, UM, I THINK HE'S GOT ALL THE ONE LEASED OUT WHEN WE WERE THERE FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING. 
          SO IT'S MOVING FORWARD WELL. 
          SO SOME OF THE TOWN CAPITAL PROJECTS, I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT THESE PRETTY QUICK 'CAUSE UM, Y'ALL ARE PRETTY AWARE OF THIS. 
          THIS IS REALLY MORE FOR ANY OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE AND JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WERE GOING ON. 
          SO AS ALWAYS, WE HAVE A, UM, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT MAP. 
          YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND TRACK HOW CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD. 
          TRY TO PUT AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. 
          SOME OF THE ONES THAT OCCURRED THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE PROUD OF IS WE OPENED THE WELCOME CENTER IN FEBRUARY. 
          UM, LINDY SENDS OUT, I KNOW WITH THE LEY REPORT, I THINK WE'RE UP UP TO HOWEVER MANY HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS, A HUNDRED THOUSAND VISITORS OR SO. 
          UH, WE HAVE OVER 16,000, OH SORRY, TENS OF THOUSAND, YEAH, 16,000 THOUSAND. 
          ADD AN EXTRA ZERO. 
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I APOLOGIZE. 
          UH, ALL THE NUMBERS ARE TOGETHER. 
          APOLOGIZE. 
          YEAH, SO WE'RE UP TO 16,000 VISITORS IN ABOUT THE FIRST NINE MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS, AND IT'S BEEN OPEN. 
          SO IT'S BEEN WELL RECEIVED. 
          UM, WE JUST PUT OUR FIRST PIECE OF PUBLIC ART OUT IN FRONT OF IT, THE BLUFFTON PEARL, UM, AND RIBBON CUT THAT I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          SO, UM, AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT WAYS TO LEVERAGE THAT SPACE. 
          I KNOW WE DID SOME HISTORICAL EDUCATION, SYM LIKE, UH, WORKSHOPS OUT THERE WITH, UH, TOWN STAFF AND LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS AND EVENTS THAT WE CAN DO AS PART OF THE WELCOME CENTER, UH, SPLASH PAD. 
          TECHNICALLY WE OPENED IT LAST NOVEMBER, BUT I THINK IT WAS ONLY OPEN FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS. 
          UH, THIS IS OUR FIRST FULL SEASON OF IT. 
          UM, STILL LEARNING. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO WHEN IT SHUT DOWN OVER THE WINTER THIS YEAR BECAUSE, UM, YOU THINK YOU CAN PLAN SOMETHING TO BE STRONG ENOUGH TO WITHHOLD KIDS UNTIL YOU PUT A BUNCH OF KIDS ON IT, THEN YOU FIND OUT VERY QUICKLY. 
          THEY ARE PRETTY INGENIOUS AT FIGURING OUT HOW, UH, THINGS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO WORK, BUT THEY SHOULD. 
          SO, UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, WORK ON SOME STUFF OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S READY FOR NEXT SEASON. 
          UM, THIS IS OUR NEW RIVERSIDE PARK. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE PARK HAS BEEN OPEN. 
          IT'S BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS. 
          I THINK ANYTIME YOU DRIVE BY THERE, THERE'S A LINE IN PEOPLE WILLING TO FIGHT OVER THE, UM, THE, UM, ZIP LINE OR THE FOUR FOOT HILL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. 
          I THINK IT'S THE TALLEST HILL IN BLUFFTON AND EVERY KID WANTS TO BE THE KING OF THE HILL OUT THERE. 
          SO IT'S ALWAYS, UH, WELL PACKED THE BARN. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE VIDEOS OR, UM, SEEN THE PROGRESS OF IT, IT IS BEAUTIFUL. 
          IT'S GONNA BE AN AMAZING, UH, ASSET. 
          IT, WE ARE ACTUALLY BREAKING IT IN HERE IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS. 
          THE TOWN IS HAVING OUR HOLIDAY CELEBRATION AT THE BARN. 
          WE'LL BE THE FIRST ONES TO GIVE IT THE GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S WORKING. 
          AND BEGINNING FEBRUARY 1ST OF NEXT YEAR, IT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE. 
          AND LINDY, I THINK IT'S BOOKING UP PRETTY QUICK, ISN'T IT? YEAH, YOUR HONOR, I THINK WE'RE ALMOST UP TO ALMOST 40 RESERVATIONS NOW. 
          YEAH, WEDDINGS, RETIREMENTS, I THINK WE HAVE TWO PROMS. SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT WAS DEFINITELY A NEEDED SPACE. 
          IT'S BEEN BOOKED UP VERY QUICKLY, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE IT. 
          UM, OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC TO ALLOW THEM TO GET INTO IT AND SEE ITS BENEFITS. 
          UM, THERE'S JUST A COUPLE MORE PICTURES OF THE PLAYGROUND AND THEN THERE'S, THAT'S, UH, SOME INTERIOR PICTURES OF THE BARN, THE KITCHEN, AND SOME OF THE SPACES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO FOR RENT. 
          UM, LASTLY, WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO IMPROVE NEW RIVERSIDE LINEAR TRAIL. 
          WE WILL BE SURFACING THAT TO MAKE IT A DA ACCESSIBLE AND LOOKING AT WAYS TO CONTINUE. 
          UM, WHEN IT'S DONE, IT WILL ACTUALLY TIE IN HERE AT HERITAGE AT NEW RIVERSIDE. 
          IT WILL TIE IN AT FOUR SEASONS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL TO TIE IT IN TO CYPRESS RIDGE IN THE BACK THERE SO THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE ACCESS TO A MULTIPURPOSE PATH AND CAN ACCESS IT. 
          AND THEN EVENTUALLY THE GOAL IS TO BRING IT ALL THE WAY OUT AND TIE IT INTO THE MULTIPURPOSE PATHS. 
          OUT ON ONE 70, THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE TOUGHER, A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE PROJECT 'CAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE WETLANDS ON THAT SIDE, SO IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF ELEVATED WALKWAYS. 
          SO THAT ONE'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND MONEY TO GET THERE. 
          BUT THAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL IN THE END. 
          UM, SOME OF THE UPCOMING PROJECTS, WE'RE GETTING READY TO START THE STREETSCAPE PROJECT ON PRITCHARD STREET. 
          UM, COUNCIL AWARDED THAT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. 
          I SIGNED THE CONTRACT THIS WEEK AND, UM, WE'LL BE SENDING OUT NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS AND STARTING THAT ONE PRETTY SOON. 
          FOLLOWING THAT, WE'RE GONNA BE STAGGERING GOING DOWN, UM, TO DO, UM, STREETSCAPE PROJECTS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT IT TO ONLY ONE MAJOR ROAD THAT'S GONNA BE IMPACTED AT A TIME SO WE DON'T, UH, IMPACT THE RESIDENCE OR BUSINESSES TOO HARSHLY. 
          UM, WE'LL BE DOING, UM, BRIDGE STREET, UH, PHASE TWO AND PRITCHARD STREET KIND OF SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          AND THEN WE'LL MOVE TO BOUNDARY STREET. 
          AND THEN LASTLY CALHOUN STREET. 
          AND THE GOAL IS THAT WE'LL DO, UH, BOUNDARY NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND THEN CALHOUN THE FALL AND FISCAL YEAR. 
          AND THEN WHEN THAT'S DONE, FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, THE TOWN ONLY OWNS ABOUT 14 ROADS INSIDE THE TOWN. 
          WE'LL HAVE DONE STREET SCAPES ON PROBABLY ABOUT A THIRD, OR GOING CLOSE TO ABOUT A THIRD OR HALF OF THE ROADS THAT WE OWN INSIDE THE TOWN WILL BE, UH, NEWLY STREET SCAPED WITHIN OLD TOWN. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, AND I WENT OVER THIS, UM, BECAUSE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE DID NOT CHAMBER, UH, THE HILTON HEAD, BLUFFTON, GREATER HILTON HEAD REALTORS DID A SURVEY. 
          WELL, THE TOWN DOES A SURVEY EVERY TWO YEARS TO SAY WHERE, WHERE OUR RESIDENTS ARE, WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE, HOW WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT. 
          AND WE TAKE THIS SURVEY SERIOUSLY, JUST LIKE WE DO ONE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, WE DO ONE FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GAUGING WHERE EVERYBODY IS AND THAT WE'RE WORKING TO ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS. 
          WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THESE AS WE GO INTO STRATEGIC PLANNING, JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT SOME 
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OF THE CONCERNS WERE AND SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN UNDERTAKEN TO GET THERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, UM, I KNOW KY PRESENTED THIS TO COUNCIL, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ASK WHAT IS SOME OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES, IT'S GROWTH. 
          WE KNOW THAT AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GONNA BE IN HERE THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T ALREADY KNOW, BUT IT IS OVERPOPULATION CONTROLLING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          SINCE WE DO THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK AND SHOW HOW THAT'S CHANGED OVER TIME. 
          AND IT'S JUST THOSE TWO MAJOR ISSUES. 
          TRAFFIC AND GROWTH HAVE ONLY BECOME A BIGGER IMPACT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UM, WE GO AND WE SAY, WHAT IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR BLUFFTON RESIDENTS? THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO IT WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          NOW IT'S ALL STREETS, STREETS DEVELOPMENT, PROTECTING OPEN SPACE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND ACTUALLY DROPPED DOWN TO NUMBER FIVE. 
          SO AGAIN, THINGS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE ALREADY HEARING FROM CITIZENS. 
          WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC? WHAT ARE WE ADDRESSING TO, UM, TO CONTROL DEVELOPMENT AND PROTECT OPEN SPACE? SO WE ASKED, 66% SAID THEY WERE UNSATISFIED WITH THE TOWN. 
          HOW THE TOWN MANAGES GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          YOU CAN SEE, UH, THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO WHEN WE DID THE SURVEY, IT WAS ALMOST 56% WE'RE HAPPY. 
          A LOT WENT TO UN UNSATISFIED. 
          AND MORE THAN LIKELY WHAT THAT IS, IS PEOPLE MOVE IN. 
          THEY'VE LIVED HERE FOR THOSE THREE YEARS AND THEY'VE SEEN MORE GROWTH SINCE THEY'VE MOVED HERE. 
          AND WE'VE ALL HEARD, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO YEARS, WHY CAN'T YOU STOP THE GROWTH? THESE, I THINK ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHAPPY WITH THIS. 
          70% SAID THERE'S TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT IN BLUFFTON. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT WENT UP FROM 45% TO 70%. 
          IT WENT UP 25% OVER THAT TIME PERIOD. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, THOSE THAT SAID JUST ABOUT THE RIGHT AMOUNT, THE GRAY BAR WENT DOWN ABOUT THAT MUCH. 
          SO WE CAN SAY THOSE, IT WAS LIKE, HEY, A COUPLE, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, IT WAS JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT. 
          NOW IT'S TOO MUCH. 
          UM, 50% SAID THERE'S TOO MUCH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT ALMOST DOUBLED OVER THAT SAME TIME PERIOD. 
          AGAIN, JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT WENT DOWN ABOUT PROPORTIONALLY. 
          50% SAYS THERE'S ABOUT JUST ABOUT THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE. 
          MORE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE RESIDENTIAL, I'D ASSUME WHEN WE, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN WE DO THE SURVEY AGAIN, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THERE'S TOO MUCH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT GOING ON. 
          BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT JUST AS WE TRACK IT YET OVER 82, 80 2% OF OUR POPULATION RATES OF QUALITY OF LIFE IS GOOD OR EXCELLENT INSIDE THE TOWN OF WHITE. 
          SO AS MUCH AS THERE'S TOO MUCH GROWTH, THERE'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC. 
          EIGHT OUT OF 10 OF OUR RESIDENTS SAY THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IS EXCELLENT, ONLY 1.6% SAY FOUR. 
          SO EVEN WITH ALL OF THAT GOING ON WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, WE KEEP THE QUALITY OF LIFE HIGH WITHIN OUR, AND YOU CAN SEE WITH ALL OF THAT THAT WE SAW, IT ACTUALLY INCREASED BY ALMOST 17%. 
          IT WENT FROM 65% THREE YEARS AGO TO 82%. 
          THIS LAST SURVEY. 
          YES SIR. 
          STEVEN, HOW MANY PEOPLE DOES THIS SURVEY? UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE FILL THIS OUT? YOU THINK IT WAS 680 OR SO, WHICH IS ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER THAT THE HILTON HEAD CHAMBER DID FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY. 
          SO, AND THAT GIVES US OUR STANDARD DEVIATION WITHIN WHERE, UM, I THINK IT'S LIKE PLUS OR MINUS 3% OF THE SURVEY RESULTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOW DO Y'ALL SEND IT OUT? IS IT, WE DID LETTERS. 
          THEY DO PHONE CALLS, TEXT, UM, AND IF, UM, I CAN RESEND THIS OUT TO Y'ALL. 
          IF YOU GO TO THE END, IT ACTUALLY TELLS YOU, UM, THE PERCENT BREAKDOWN OF WHO ALL HOW THEY, HOW THEY GOT ALL THE RESULTS AND EVERYTHING. 
          UM, THE BREAKDOWN. 
          BUT I, MOST OF IT I THINK COMES FROM IN-PERSON PHONE CALLS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS, UM, TEXT MESSAGES. 
          BUT THEY'LL ALSO SEND, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED LINKS AND THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND ACTUALLY FILL IT OUT SO THAT WAY AS WELL. 
          AND IT ONLY IS THE, YOU KNOW, THAT GEO FENCES, SO IT'S ONLY TO RESIDENTS WITHIN THE TOWN LIMITS. 
          SO THEY GO, THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE DONUT HOLES. 
          THEY FOCUS AND THEY SPREAD IT OUT THROUGHOUT THE TOWN FOR GOOD COVERAGE. 
          STEVEN, UH, FOR YOU CAN HELP ME HERE. 
          I, I'VE OFTEN WONDERED ABOUT THE, THE NUMBER THAT THE MAYOR JUST ASKED ABOUT. 
          BUT, BUT AGAIN, FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS NATIONALLY, EVEN WHEN THEY DO POLITICAL POLLS, IT'S LIKE 2000. 
          IT COULD BE FOR THE, A LARGER SPECTRUM. 
          SO I, I THINK THE NUMBERS BEAR OUT PRETTY MUCH TO YOUR POINT. 
          THE EXAMPLE I LOVE IS THE ONE ACTUALLY DAVID GAVE WHENEVER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 
          I'M POINTING AT PAUL 'CAUSE DAVID WORKS IN DRCI. 
          UM, BUT DAVID, YOU KNOW, HE USED THE EXAMPLE OF A POT OF CHILI. 
          THE TOWN IS A POT OF CHILI. 
          IT'S MADE UP OF EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THERE. 
          IF I TAKE MY LADLE AND I STICK IT IN AND I TAKE OUT MY LADLE OF CHILI AND PUT IT IN MY BOWL, I'VE GOT A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT POT OF CHILI. 
          NOW IT MAY HAVE 20% 
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LESS BEANS THAN IF I TAKE ANOTHER SCOOP, BUT IT'S STILL PLUS OR MINUS 3% IF I WAS TO TAKE OF THE, OF WHAT'S IN THAT POT OF CHILI. 
          SO YOU CAN GET A VERY GOOD SAMPLE OF A BIG, A BIG POPULATION BY TAKING A VERY GOOD SAMPLE OF WHAT'S OUT THERE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT MEETS WHAT YOU NEED AND GET YOUR STANDARD DEVIATION DOWN TO A GOOD POINT. 
          AS LONG AS YOU GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
           UP REAL GOOD. 
          YOU SKI OFF THE TOP, YOU GET A WHOLE DIFFERENT PICTURE. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, BUT BASED ON THE RESULTS THAT WE SAW HERE, I THINK THEY GOT A PRETTY ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS EVERY DAY, ALL DAY, WHICH IS THERE'S TOO MUCH GROWTH, TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, WE LOVE IT HERE, FIX THESE ISSUES. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE SAW IN OUR SURVEY. 
          YES SIR. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK, BACK TO THE  WITH THE COMPLAINTS OF TOO MUCH GROWTH AND TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, BUT THE TOWN IS DOING EXCELLENT AS A SONGWRITER. 
           SAME PEOPLE. 
          I PUT IT TO YOU. 
          UM, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD LIFE'S GOING. 
          IF YOU STUMP YOUR TOE, YOU'RE GONNA SAY THAT YOU HAD A BAD DAY. 
          IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT THROUGHOUT THE DAY, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T. 
          WHAT WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHEN THEY TALK TO THE TOWN IS THEY, THEY LOVE THE NATURAL RESOURCES, THEY LOVE THE COMMUNITY, THEY LOVE THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE, THEY LOVE THE EVENTS THAT WE DO. 
          BUT IF WE COULD JUST FIX TRAFFIC, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S NOT A GREAT COMMUNITY. 
          IT JUST MEANS THAT WHEN THEY DRIVE SOMEWHERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DRIVE TO GO TO A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT SOMEPLACE. 
          SO THEY DON'T, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO IN THE FUTURE. 
          IT TAKES THEM TOO LONG. 
          OR THERE'S TOO, IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER OR WHEN SCHOOLS ARE GETTING IN, OVERALL THEY RATE THE QUALITY OF LIFE HERE AS GOOD. 
          I, I, I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT. 
          YES SIR. 
          I THINK THEY LOVE BEING HERE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS BECAUSE THEY ARE, UM, EVERYDAY CONCERNS. 
          THEY'RE NOT JUST YES SIR. 
          WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR, THAT'S WHEN THEY GO ANYWHERE ANYWAY. 
          100%. 
          AND THAT'S WHY AS PREPARATION FOR US GETTING READY TO GO INTO THE PLAN AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THAT JUST POINTING OUT AGAIN WITH THE SURVEY, WHAT WE KNOW AND WE'VE HEARD IS WHAT WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS AS WE GET INTO THE STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS HERE SHORTLY. 
          AND I WILL, I WILL BRING THIS UP. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF FRED, IF YOU WERE THERE OR NOT. 
          I WAS AT A MEETING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH A COMMUNITY AND 50% OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE AND QUITE A QUITE A LARGE NUMBER SPOKE, SAID THAT THE TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS. 
          IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER, IT TAKES FOR EVERY FOREVER FOR THEM TO GET ANYWHERE AND OUT OF THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE OTHER 50% OF THEM SAID THAT WE NEED BETTER POLICE PROTECTION. 
          'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S DRIVING LIKE WILD INDIANS DRIVING 80 MILES AN HOUR. 
          I HEARD THAT WITH MY OWN EARS. 
          AND THAT'S THE GOSPEL. 
          SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SAME OPINION. 
          SO IT'S EITHER A RACETRACK OR IT'S YEAH, BUMPER TO BUMPER OR A RACETRACK. 
          HOW DO YOU FIX THAT? SO I'M STILL THINKING. 
          UM, SO AS WE GET INTO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PORTION OF IT, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED TOWARDS BASED ON THE SURVEY RESULTS THAT CAME OUT, UM, CITIZEN EDUCATION, THAT'S ALWAYS AN IMPORTANT THING. 
          UM, WE ASKED THE QUESTION AND ONLY 53% OF OUR REP, 53% WERE UNAWARE THAT THE TOWN IS AT 80% OF MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL BUILD OUT. 
          SO WE WERE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT. 
          PEOPLE STILL THINK THAT IT'S UNCONTROLLED GROWTH WHEN WE ALL KNOW THAT 92% OF OUR TOWN ARE IN PLAN DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CONTROLLED AND RESTRICTED AND ARE GONNA CAP OUT. 
          SO WE WERE LIKE, WE NEED TO EDUCATE. 
          'CAUSE THE MORE PEOPLE COME IN, THEY TURN OVER EVERY DAY, THE MORE WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO EDUCATE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE MOVING WITHIN. 
          SO WE DID THE RESIDENT RESOURCE GUIDE. 
          WE SENT THAT TO EVERY RESIDENT WITHIN THE TOWN. 
          UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT REACHED EVERY PERSON IN THE TOWN LIMIT. 
          SO EVERYBODY GOT ONE IN THE MAIL. 
          UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE REALTOR SO THAT WHEN THEY SELL A HOME, THEY GIVE IT TO A NEW RESIDENT. 
          WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO HAVE COPIES TO TAKE IT TO EVENTS, WE TAKE IT TO EVENTS, WE GO DO MOBILE TOWN HALLS, WE'LL TAKE IT WITH US AND GIVE OUT SO PEOPLE HAVE IT. 
          UM, THE GOAL IS FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY THEY'RE MOVING INTO, HOW THE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED, WHO THEY NEED TO CONTACT, WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. 
          AND TO TRY TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY GET THE FACTS OF HOW THINGS OPERATE VERSUS REACHING OUT ON FACEBOOK AND SAYING, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO I NEED TO CALL? THEY HAVE THIS, THE GOAL IS FOR THIS TO BE EVERGREEN. 
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IF THEY EVER HAVE A QUESTION, IT'S GOT THE NUMBER, IT'S GOT CONTACTS OF WHO THEY NEED TO REACH OUT TO. 
          UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE ARE WORKING ON VIDEO SERIES AND IT STARTING TO ROLL OUT. 
          AND THESE ARE ALL ON OUR YOUTUBE PAGE AND THEY'LL EVENTUALLY START ROLLING OUT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          NOW TO TALK ABOUT RUNS ON A COUNCIL MANAGER SYSTEM. 
          PARTS OF IT, THINK OF OUR TOWN COUNCIL AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE TOWN MANAGER AS THE CEO. 
          THE COUNCIL IS COMPRISED OF THE MAYOR AND FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE ELECTED TO SERVE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          THEY SET POLICIES AND PRIORITIES. 
          TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF HANDLE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVE STAGGERED FOUR YEAR TERMS WITH ELECTIONS. 
          EVERY NOVEMBER ODD NUMBER YEARS, THEY EARN A MODEST SALARY FOR MEETING TIME. 
          TOWN MANAGER IS THE FULL-TIME PROFESSIONAL. 
          BEAUFORT BUFORD COUNTY OVERSEES VOTER REGISTRATION. 
          POLLING. 
          SO REMEMBER TO REGISTER WITH A COUNTY COURT AND VERIFY YOUR POLLING PLACE BEFORE EACH ELECTION. 
          I'M GONNA SHOW ONE MORE. 
          THEY'RE ONLY ABOUT 50 SECONDS A PIECE. 
          WE TRIED TO KEEP 'EM SPECIFIC TO INDIVIDUAL TOPICS. 
          UH, GET BACK AND SEE IF WE'LL KEEP GOING. 
          SO THAT ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT STREETS. 
          WHO DO YOU CALL? WHO MAINTAINS THE STREETS? WHO DO YOU CALL? WHEN DO YOU CALL DOT WHEN YOU CALL THE COUNTY, WHEN YOU CALL THE TOWN AND ABOUT PRIVATE ROADS, WHO MAINTAINS PRIVATE ROADS AGAIN? SO THE GOAL IS TO HAVE LITTLE EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS THAT PEOPLE CAN GO ON OUR WEBSITE AND IF THEY'RE LIKE, WHO DO I NEED TO CALL ABOUT ROADS? THERE'S A LITTLE 52ND VIDEO TO TELL THEM ABOUT HOW ROADS ARE MANAGED AND WHO TO CONTACT. 
          SO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT AS MUCH EDUCATION AND TO OUR CITIZENS AS POSSIBLE ON HOW THE GOVERNMENT'S IN THIS AREA WORK. 
          UM, OTHER THING THING WE'VE DONE IS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. 
          SO I'LL GO BACK, UM, TO THIS, THIS IS WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT AGAIN, PROTECTING OPEN SPACE, WATER QUALITY AND THEN, UM, WAS ONE OF THE TOP THREE. 
          IT ALSO, UH, INCREASED BY ALMOST DOUBLE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. 
          SO, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE WHERE 64% WENT, UH, IT WENT DOWN ABOUT 15% OR ABOUT 10% ON HOW SATISFIED THEY ARE AND HOW WE MAINTAIN RIVERS AND STREAMS. SO WHAT DID THE TOWN DO? WE'VE DONE SEVERAL THINGS. 
          Y'ALL HAVE ADOPTED SEVERAL POLICIES AND ORDINANCES, ONE OF WHICH BEING THE NEW WETLAND BUFFER ORDINANCE, THAT WE WERE THE FIRST IN THE STATE TO ADOPT, TO PROTECT, TO PROVIDE A 50 FOOT BUFFER AROUND ALL WETLANDS, INCLUDING FRESH WATER, INLAND WETLANDS, WHERE IT SOLVES THE PROTECTION BY THE SUPREME COURT DECISION. 
          UM, Y'ALL HAVE DONE OTHER THINGS BEFORE AS WELL, AND IT'S AGAIN, PUSHING THIS INFORMATION OUT SO RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF IT, WHICH IS YOU'VE DONE A TREE MITIGATION ORDINANCE, SO LOCO STORMWATER STANDARDS THAT ARE NOW MORE STRICT THAN THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY. 
          UM, YOU ADOPT ORDINANCES ON PHASE CLEARING OF TREES. 
          UM, WE JUST RECENTLY WERE COMPLETING STUDIES TO HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THIS MATTER. 
          WE JUST DID A MAY RIVER BASELINE ASSESSMENT UPDATE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN, I THINK IT WAS LIKE, WAS IT 20 YEARS BILL? YEAH, 20 YEARS. 
          UM, WE ARE MODELING HAYWARD COVE. 
          WE'RE GETTING READY TO MODEL, UH, ROADS DUE. 
          WE'RE FINISHING UP CROOKED COVE. 
          UM, SO THE GOAL OF THAT IS TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE PROTECTION OF NOT JUST THE RIVER, BUT OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE OTHER THING Y'ALL HAVE DONE TO HELP WITH THAT, WE ASKED, DO YOU SUPPORT USING FUNDS TO PURCHASE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OR LAND, UH, TO PRESERVE GREEN SPACE? 90% OF OUR COMMUNITY SAID YES. 
          SO WE'VE WORKED ON THAT. 
          WE BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY ONE 40 BUCK ISLAND ROAD, WHICH WILL BECOME A PART FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THAT STOPPED DEVELOPMENT OF TOWN HOMES ON THAT PROPERTY. 
          WE'RE WORKING FOR ALL THESE PROPERTIES HERE. 
          UM, WE'VE PURCHASED THE MOONY TRACT HERE. 
          WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THESE TWO GREEN PENNY HERE. 
          THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THEM. 
          Y'ALL WILL HAVE THE SECOND READING FOR THE COVENANTS AND WE'LL CLOSE ON THAT IN NOVEMBER. 
          UM, THIS ONE, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION IN FOR THE GREEN PENNY RIGHT NOW TO BUY AND PRESERVE IT. 
          AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING IT'LL COMPLETE THAT PROCESS PROBABLY SOMETIME, UM, AFTER, I GUESS IT'S PROBABLY AROUND FEBRUARY OR MARCH THAT IT WILL COME TO COUNCIL FOR THE ADOPTION OF COVENANTS AND THEN THE CLOSE ON THAT ONE. 
          SO ULTIMATELY WHEN THAT'S DONE AND WE GET, WE WILL HAVE ALL OF THIS UNDER 
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CONTROL. 
          AND THEN WE WERE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO TRY TO PURCHASE ALL THAT AND RUN. 
          UM, THAT DID NOT BEAR FRUIT. 
          SO WE WERE ARE CONTINUING TO HAVE, UM, LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES AND OPTIONS FOR THAT. 
          BUT THE GOAL OF THAT IS THESE ARE SOME OF THE LARGE LAST LARGE TRACKS WITHIN BLUFFTON IS TO GET THOSE UNDER CONTROL IN THE PRESERVE THEM FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT AND THEN, UM, NOW I TURN IT OVER. 
          I THINK WE'LL GO TO CONSULTANTS NEXT OR TO Y'ALL. 
          SO I'LL LET BILL AND MIKE GO AND, UM, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGHOUT Y'ALL'S MEETING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP AND LET US KNOW. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          THAT WAS ENERGETIC, WASN'T IT? ? DON'T MAKE US WORSE. 
          YEAH, I, UH, SO YOU GUYS GET TO SEE THIS PART OF ME AS I ADDRESS THE COUNCIL. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US BACK. 
          UM, I WAS, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF TALKING WITH TERRY BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE BEGAN, AND WE THINK YESTERDAY WE FIGURED OUT WE MAY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS, WE THINK NOW PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT. 
          UM, I KNOW, UM, MIKE AND I VERY MUCH ENJOY COMING BACK TO BLUFFTON TO HAVE SEEN WHAT HAS GONE ON IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS HAS BEEN BEEN PRETTY EXCITING, UM, FROM WHAT'S BEEN IMPROVED, WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED, JUST THE GROWTH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE WONDERFUL STAFF. 
          SO WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO BE FAIRLY BRIEF ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UH, SOME OF THIS IS FOR, UM, UH, COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER BURDEN'S, UH, BENEFIT. 
          SOME OF IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT THEN WE'LL GET THROUGH IT AND THEN WE'LL GET ONTO WHAT WE'RE REALLY HERE FOR AS TALK ABOUT THE WORK. 
          SO, UM, WE'VE ALREADY HAD KIND OF OUR OPENING REMARKS, UH, QUICK ABOUT THE BRIDGE GROUP FOR, UH, THOSE THAT, UH, DO NOT REMEMBER. 
          UH, MIKE AND I STARTED THIS, UH, WHEN WE WERE PART OF THE MERCER GROUP, WHICH WAS A LARGE NATIONAL CONSULTING FIRM HEADED BY JIM MERCER, WHO HAD BEEN IN THE CONSULT, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          UH, JIM PASSED AWAY IN 20, UH, 18. 
          UH, SO WE, UH, EVERYBODY THEN KIND OF SEPARATED, WENT INTO OUR OWN, OUR OWN SMALL GROUPS. 
          UH, WE ARE PART OF WHAT WE CALL THE MERCER GROUP ASSOCIATES. 
          SO SOME OF US STAYED TOGETHER, BUT WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN LITTLE GROUP. 
          SO MIKE IS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF BRIDGE GROUP, BUT WE ARE STILL NATIONALLY CONSULTING. 
          SO THAT, THAT PART HASN'T CHANGED. 
          ONLY OUR, ONLY OUR NAME HAS. 
          UM, I'M GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO, UH, GIVE MIKE, IF YOU WANT TO JUST BEND YOUR MICROPHONE BACK, UH, MIKE WILL DO A QUICK INTRO ON HIMSELF AND THEN, UH, WE'LL FILL IN FROM THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, APPRECIATE IT, BILL. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          APPRECIATE BEING HERE. 
          UH, MAYOR COUNCIL AND, UH, BEING INVITED BACK. 
          AS BILL HAS MENTIONED, UH, AS YOU KNOW, UM, I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR THIS. 
          MY BACKGROUND IS PRIMARILY CITY MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, I ALSO TEACH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF, UH, ARIZONA PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION. 
          SO I'M TRAINING FUTURE, UH, CITY MANAGERS AND COUNTY MANAGERS. 
          IT'S PRETTY EXCITING. 
          UH, I ALSO, UH, TEACH A COURSE IN STRATEGIC PLANNING. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I TELL MY, MY, UH, STUDENTS IS, IS THAT FOR, FOR STEVEN, FOR COUNTY OR CITY MANAGERS TO BE EFFECTIVE, FOR COUNCILS TO BE EFFECTIVE, IT'S ESSENTIAL TO HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          REALLY, REALLY HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT BLUFFTON, UM, HAS HAD THIS PLAN FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND, UH, TO SEE THE ACCOMPLISHMENT. 
          SO IT'S REALLY GREAT TO BE BACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AWESOME. 
          SO THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DYNAMIC DUO IS, IS ME. 
          UM, I AM THE, UH, NOW FORMER ELECTED, I GET TO SAY FORMER ELECTED. 
          UH, I SERVED MY FULL THREE TERMS, WHICH WE HAVE TERM LIMITS, UH, IN, IN MY COMMUNITY. 
          UH, MY FINAL TERM ENDED ON DECEMBER 31ST OF 24. 
          SO I AM ESSENTIALLY A FREE MAN, UM, FOR AT LEAST A LITTLE WHILE. 
          BUT MY BACKGROUND IS ALSO IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          SO AS A STAFF MEMBER, AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD, UH, HAVING WORKED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND HAVING WORKED WITH STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLANS, MIKE AND I HAVE KNOWN ONE ANOTHER FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. 
          SO WE DECIDED BACK IN 2011, SO ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO, TO, UH, START THIS CONSULTING WORK. 
          SO, UM, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON REALLY STREAMLINING 
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THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS FOR THE BENEFIT OF COUNCIL AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE STAFF, WHICH ULTIMATELY BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY WHEN THE STAFF AND THE COUNSELOR ARE WORKING AND WELL TOGETHER, THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WE, WE SEE THAT KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          STEVEN'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF THE OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH TODAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA REALLY GET MORE INTO, UH, INTO THE WORK. 
          BUT OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS IS VERY UNIQUE IN THAT WE FOCUS ON ACTUALLY ACHIEVING THINGS, NOT DREAMING ABOUT THEM, NOT WISHING FOR THEM, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT CAN WE GET DONE. 
          AND WE DO THAT WITHIN A FRAMEWORK OF STRATEGIC FOCUS, WHICH THEN ALLOWS US ALL TO SAY, OKAY, WE KNOW WHERE WE WANT TO GO, NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE CREATED AND THE PROCESS. 
          IF YOU'VE BEEN, UH, IN STRATEGIC PLANNING OR HAVE BEEN, UH, HAD IT THRUST UPON YOU, IF YOU WILL. 
          UH, BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS MORE ABOUT DREAMING. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING A CONSULTANT WOULD SAY IS, OKAY, UH, LET'S IMAGINE IF MONEY WERE NO OBJECT. 
          WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IN YOUR LIFETIME, MONEY HAS NEVER BEEN AN OBJECT. 
          UH, LET'S DREAM, LET'S DREAM BIG. 
          UH, THOSE ARE GREAT, BUT WE SOMETIMES NEVER ACHIEVE OUR DREAMS. YOU KNOW, EVERY, UH, UH, IT'S VERY STEREOTYPICAL, BUT EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY LITTLE GIRL WANTS TO BE A PRINCESS, AND EVERY LITTLE BOY WANTS TO BE AN ASTRONAUT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW VERY MANY PRINCESSES OR ASTRONAUTS. 
          AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I WAS A KID. 
          SO, UM, LET'S, LET'S NOT FOCUS ON THAT. 
          SO WE REALLY START TALKING ABOUT LET'S GET THINGS DONE. 
          UM, SO STRATEGIC PLANNING IS REALLY IMPORTANT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE IS WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT WE CAN FINANCIALLY AFFORD AND WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH OR WHAT TIME WILL ALLOW. 
          UM, WE CAN'T DO ALL THE STRATEGIC THINGS AND FORGET ABOUT THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS. 
          UH, WE ALSO CAN'T DO THINGS THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD. 
          SO IT REALLY BECOMES A VERY DELICATE BALANCE. 
          AND THAT, UM, WE SPENT TIME YESTERDAY DOING THIS EXACT THING WITH THE STAFF. 
          WE HAD REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, CAN YOU ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE? CAN WE DO THE, CAN YOU DO THIS IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR? OR SHOULD IT WAIT FOR THE SECOND FISCAL YEAR, FY 28? SO WE HAD REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE. 
          SO WHEN YOU SEE THE PROJECT, UH, TIMELINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SUGGEST, UH, KNOW THAT WE PUT A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT INTO THAT. 
          BUT IF YOU REALLY FEEL THAT, HEY, THIS NEEDS TO BE MOVED UP, THEN THINK ABOUT WHAT CAN WE PUSH BACK SO THAT WE TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE. 
          WE ALL INSTINCTIVELY WANT EVERYTHING DONE TOMORROW, BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW WE CAN'T DO IT ALL TOMORROW. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE, WHAT WE TRY TO EMPHASIZE. 
          THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS IT'S ABOUT DIRECTION. 
          SO, UH, WE SAW IN THE VIDEO THAT THE MANAGER IS THE CEO AND YOU ARE THE BOARD OF DIRECT DIRECTORS AND YOU PROVIDE THE DIRECTION FOR THE ORGANIZATION, AND THAT'S GREAT. 
          BUT IMAGINE HE'S A BUS DRIVER AND YOU ARE ALL PASSENGERS ON THAT BUS, AND EACH ONE OF YOU IS YELLING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, ONE SAYING FASTER, ONE SAYING SLOWER, ONE SAYING, RIGHT, ONE SAYING LEFT. 
          AND ANOTHER IS JUST KIND OF SITTING ON THE BUS SAYING, OH, I'M JUST HERE FOR THE RIDE. 
          AND THAT'S OKAY, BUT HOW DOES THE DRIVER DRIVE THAT BUS WITH CONFLICTING DIRECTIONS? A STRATEGIC PLAN PROVIDES THAT DIRECTION, AND THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, AND THAT'S WHAT HELPS KEEP EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND WE'VE SEEN REALLY THE SUCCESS THAT BLUFFTON HAS HAD HAS BE, I THINK, BEEN IN GREAT PART BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN THAT UNITY OF THE DIRECTION AND THEN THE ACTION BY THE STAFF. 
          AND YOU'VE SEEN THAT, UM, OVER, OVER TIME. 
          UH, I WAS LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION AND I WAS, I WAS KIND OF SMILING INTERNALLY THINKING, WELL, THESE ARE THE SAME, UM, CHALLENGES THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TALKED ABOUT, GROWTH AND TRAFFIC, AND IT, IT SEEMS TO BE JUST CONSISTENT. 
          UM, AND IT, IT'S TRUE THE COMMUNITY THAT I'M IN, WHEN I MOVED OUT THERE IN 2001, WE WERE 18,000 PEOPLE. 
          TODAY WE'RE 120,000. 
          WHEN I GOT ONTO COUNCIL, WE WERE 52,000. 
          AND WHEN I LEFT, WE WERE 115,000. 
          SO I, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GROWTH AND, AND ITS EFFECT, BUT THE, THE IRONY IS THE FOLKS THAT 
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ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BUILDING THAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR SONORAN DESERT MOUNTAIN AREA ARE THE ONES WHO ARE SAYING, YOU HAVE TO STOP THE GROWTH. 
          THIS IS INSANE. 
          UH, YOU'RE TEARING UP THE DESERT AND THEN YOU LOOK TO SEE WHERE THEY LIVE, AND THEY LIVE IN THE NEWEST SUBDIVISION THAT WAS BUILT IN THAT SAME DESERT. 
          SO, UM, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THEY'RE BUILDING IN THE DESERT OR WE'RE BUILDING HERE AND IN THE WOODED AREAS, I, I THINK AS HUMAN BEINGS, THAT THAT BECOMES OUR, OUR, UH, OUR WAY FORWARD. 
          SO WE TRY TO PROVIDE SOME REALLY GOOD DIRECTION TO THE MANAGER, UM, WITH THIS, THE OTHER THING TO REMIND KIND OF EVERYBODY ABOUT IS THIS LEVEL SIX GOVERNANCE CONCEPT, WHICH IS THE STAFF WILL FUNCTION AT THE LEVEL IN WHICH YOU ARE MOST FOCUSED AT. 
          SO IF THE COUNCIL IS MOST FOCUSED ON THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, STAFF WILL NEVER ELEVATE THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE CHASING AFTER ALL OF THAT, UM, CONSTITUENT RESPONSE. 
          THAT IS, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE, OF THE GAME. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          THAT'S WHY WE EXIST, IS TO RESPOND TO OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UM, BUT RESIDENTS AREN'T STRATEGIC. 
          THEY'RE ABOUT FILL MY NEED NOW. 
          UM, COUNSEL HAS A LEGAL OBLIGATION THAT'S LEVEL THREE. 
          YOU HAVE A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO FUNCTION AND PROVIDE PAST ORDINANCES, ET CETERA. 
          SO WE REALLY TRY TO BRING THE ORGANIZATION UP TO THAT LEVEL FOUR, WHICH IS, ALL RIGHT, LET'S START THINKING STRATEG STRATEGICALLY, LET'S LOOK FORWARD. 
          LET'S, LET'S NOT BE REACTIVE. 
          LET'S START TO BE A LITTLE PROACTIVE. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT LEVEL FOUR IS. 
          AT. 
          LEVEL FIVE ARE THOSE GOVERNANCE EXPECTATIONS, WHICH KIND OF GO ACROSS THE BOARD, WHICH IS SIMILAR EXPECTATIONS TO, UM, THAT, THAT ARE SHARED AMONG THE, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP. 
          AND THEN LEVEL SIX IS THAT, UH, REALLY THAT ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE. 
          WE MEASURE THAT WITH, UH, EITHER BALDRIDGE SURVEYS OR, UH, UM, MCKENZIE OR, UH, ANY OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE, THAT ARE OUT THERE. 
          UH, GALLUP Q 12 DOES ANOTHER ONE. 
          UH, AND THOSE ARE REALLY HIGH LEVEL. 
          UH, WE KNOW THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE ENGAGED AT A CERTAIN CERTAIN DEGREE. 
          UM, AND THAT REALLY BECOMES THE, THE PINNACLE OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          AND I DON'T MEAN, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT CALLING EMILY OUT. 
          DID WE PASS OUT THE WORKBOOKS? SHOULD BE IN THE, IN THE, THE FRONT COVER MIGHT BE SLID IN YOUR FRONT COVER. 
          I SEE YOU TAKING PICTURES AND WHATNOT. 
          NOPE. 
          IT'S A BLUE PAPER PACKET. 
          IT'S A PAPER PACKET. 
          IT'S THAT. 
          ANYWAY, ALL OF THIS IS IN, THAT IS IN THAT THING. 
          I'M NOT SEEING IT IN ANYONE'S FOLDER, SO IT MAY NOT BE . 
          THE STAFF CAN PRINT 'EM. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAD THEM. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU. 
          I THINK, YEAH, THERE'S MORE RIGHT HERE, DAVID. 
          THEY CAN GET MORE, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO A PRINTER . 
          SO THANK YOU STEVEN. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, SO, UH, IN, IN ANY EVENT THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, UH, WHERE WE STAND AND WHERE THIS THING HAS LANDED IS, IS REALLY TRYING TO KEEP THE ORGANIZATION AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, WHICH YOU'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AT. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT STRATEGIC FOCUS. 
          THAT IS THE, THAT'S REALLY THE, THE KEY BEHIND THIS. 
          AND THE PRINCIPLES OF STRATEGIC FOCUS JUST AGAIN, KEEP US FROM REACTING AND REALLY KEEP US MOVING FORWARD AND TRYING TO HELP US BE PROACTIVE. 
          SO WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC FOCUS AREAS, WHICH GIVE US THE, THESE, UH, IT GIVES US THE, THIS IS WHAT WE'LL DO, OR WE WILL ALWAYS STATEMENT. 
          THAT'S YOUR STRATEGIC FOCUS AREA. 
          AND THEN UNDER THAT ARE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, THE THINGS THAT, AND THIS IS HOW WE'LL DO IT STATEMENTS. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT, UM, MULTIPLE, UH, FOCUS AREAS. 
          UH, I'M GONNA SKIP FORWARD. 
          I YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE FOCUS AREAS, AND THEN I'M GONNA GO BACK, SO DON'T GET DISTRACTED BY ME. 
          UM, THAT REALLY BRING YOUR, YOUR PLAN, UH, TO LIFE THAT GUIDES THE DECISIONS THAT THE STAFF 
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MAKES DAY IN AND DAY OUT. 
          WE HAD A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION YESTERDAY ABOUT SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT FOCUS AREA THIS PROJECT BELONGS IN AND WHAT IT COULD BE MULTIPLE ONES. 
          AND, AND THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WAS, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SIGN THAT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS VERY MEANINGFUL TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHEN IT FITS IN MULTIPLE FOCUS AREAS, THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          UH, IF IT, IF IT FALLS INTO A FOCUS AREA AND IT HAS, AND MULTIPLE GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD THING. 
          THAT MEANS THE PROJECT IS REALLY, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, IF YOU STRUGGLE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE DOES THIS BEL WE WANNA DO X, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE IT BELONGS, THEN YOU SHOULD REALLY START TO QUESTION WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO OR NOT. 
          AND THAT I, THAT'S HOW THIS SHOULD REALLY BE USED AS A FILTER FOR THOSE DECISIONS. 
          AND THE EXAMPLE THAT I USED, UH, YESTERDAY IS I HAD DONE A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR A CHURCH AND, UH, THEY WERE TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER TO DO A PROGRAM CALLED, UM, . 
          I'M DOING IT AGAIN, IT'S CALLED MEMORY CAFE, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT EVERY SINGLE TIME I SAY IT, I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED. 
          UM, BUT IT'S MEMORY CAFE. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S ABOUT HELPING THOSE THAT EITHER HAVE MEMORY ISSUES OR ARE CARING FOR THOSE WITH MEMORY ISSUES. 
          AND THE, THEY WERE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT KIND OF A PROGRAM THIS WAS AND WHAT FOCUS AREA IT IS. 
          AND I HAD EXPLAINED TO THE PASTOR, LOOK, IF, IF YOU, IF IT IS FALLING INTO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FOCUS AREAS, THAT MEANS IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A CHURCH WITH YOUR LIMITED RESOURCES, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY WANT TO DO THAT. 
          UM, IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WEREN'T REALLY SURE AND YOU THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS THIS AND IT WAS KIND OF A STRETCH WITH ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE, IF IT'S A SINGULAR ITEM AND IT ONLY TOUCHES ONE AND IT ONLY TOUCHES ONE AND GUIDING PRINCIPLE, AND YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT TOUCHES THREE FOCUS AREAS AND MULTIPLE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROJECTS, THEN THAT'S THE ONE TO CHOOSE. 
          AND THAT'S HOW WE USE THIS AS A, AS A REALLY GOOD TOOL TO, TO KIND OF MOVE A MOVE US FORWARD. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, TO HEATHER. 
          SHE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IN THE PLAN, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO THE WORK. 
          SO ARE YOU STANDING, ARE YOU GOING TO THE PODIUM? WE'LL TRY TO STAND RIGHT HERE, BUT YOU'RE GONNA WANT THAT. 
          THIS ONE, YOU HIT A JUST HIT YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          ONE OF THE MOST ENTERTAINING THINGS IS WATCHING SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T NORMALLY USE A TRACK PAD, USE A TRACK PAD. 
          I HAVE, UH, I HAVE THAT JOY AT HOME. 
          UH, MY WIFE USED TO COMP, UH, ACCOMPANY US ON THESE JOURNEYS TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK. 
          UM, AND ACTUALLY THE MAYOR WHEN SHE FIRST CAME OUT AND I, WE INTRODUCED LISA, HE SAID, OH, THIS IS GONNA BE FUN. 
          I WONDER HOW LONG THIS IS GONNA LAST, IS WHAT HE SAID. 
          AND I MENTIONED YESTERDAY THAT, UM, MY WIFE HAS IS NOT HERE  FOR THOSE VERY REASONS. 
          SO STAND OVER HERE. 
          YOU GONNA STAND OVER HERE? OKAY. 
          WELL, GOING, GOING LAST WITH THE PRESENTATIONS, THIS WILL BE A LOT SHORTER BECAUSE STEVEN ALREADY TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THE PROJECTS HE TALKED ABOUT ARE STRATEGIC ACTION ITEMS IN THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          AND, UM, BILL ALSO WENT THROUGH WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND WHAT EXACTLY IT'S, SO WHY, HOW'D WE GET HERE? LOTS OF JOKES ABOUT WHY THE CHICKEN CROSSED THE ROAD TODAY. 
          WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? AND YES, AI HELPED ME WITH THIS. 
          WE'RE NOT WINGING THIS. 
          LIKE WE'RE NOT ROGUE. 
          WE'RE NOT JUST KIND OF GUESSING. 
          HOW DO WE REACH, 
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HOW DO WE MEET THESE, UM, PRINCIPLES AND THESE GUIDING PRINCIPLES WE WANNA PLAN. 
          AND IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THIS IS NOT THE DAY TO DAY BUT THE BIG PICTURE. 
          SO WHAT YOU WILL START TO SEE IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS LESS QUANTITY OF ITEMS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT WORKING ON A LOT OF STUFF AND BIG ISSUES. 
          IT JUST MEANS THAT THINGS THAT INITIALLY WERE STRATEGIC IN NATURE, SUCH AS THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, UM, FOOD TRUCKS, MOBILE VENDING, SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          INITIALLY THEY STARTED OUT AS STRATEGIC. 
          HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS AND WHAT'S THE PRO, WHAT'S THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, WHAT DO WE DO? BUT ONCE THAT'S DONE, THAT'S PART OF OUR DAY TO DAY. 
          WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          IF WE NEED TO TWEAK IT AND REVISIT IT IN A FUTURE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE WILL. 
          BUT YOU WON'T SEE THAT CONTINUE THROUGHOUT. 
          UM, ADDITIONAL PLANS. 
          THESE REMAIN OUR FOCUS AREAS. 
          UM, THE SURVEYS THAT WERE DONE, WE DID NOT SEE ANYTHING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO CHANGE. 
          SO THIS YEAR STAFF IS NOT PROPOSING ANY REVISIONS TO THE SEVEN, UM, FOCUS AREAS, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S ALWAYS UP FOR DISCUSSION. 
          ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, THERE IS THE, A LINK TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. 
          70% OF THE ITEMS ARE COMPLETE. 
          KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS DOES GO THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, SO WE'RE NOT BEHIND. 
          UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THINGS. 
          THIS GOES THROUGH THE BUDGET YEAR, SO JUNE 30TH. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS CLICKABLE RIGHT ON THE FRONT WEBSITE, A BUTTON TO THE LEFT. 
          I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT 'CAUSE BECAUSE IT'S THERE, UM, FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, BUT YOU CAN KINDA SEE WHERE WE'RE ON TRACK. 
          SO THE PUBLIC COUNCIL STAFF, WHAT ARE WE DOING? SO THIS IS ALL OUT THERE. 
          I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON. 
          AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT. 
          WE HAVE EXPANDED THAT WORKING WITH BEAUFORT MEMORIAL ON SOME MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AS WELL AS GOTHE ROAD. 
          THERE'S THREE UNITS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT UTILIZED OUR, UM, DENSITY INCENTIVES. 
          ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          THIS YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SEE IN THE PLAN. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES TO EVOLVE AND STRENGTHEN. 
          WE'RE CONTINUING TO COLLABORATE WITH OTHER GROUPS TO MAXIMIZE THOSE DOLLARS, SUCH AS SAVE THE SHUTTERS, UM, THE AFFORDABLE, UM, OTHER REGIONAL GROUPS TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP CURRENT HOMEOWNERS STAY IN THEIR HOME AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE AND DRY. 
          QUALITY OF LIFE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF THESE, UM, STEVEN DID DURING HIS PRESENTATION, BUT THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE PLAN. 
          POLICY IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WE CALLED IT DIRT TO HOME. 
          I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO READ IT, BUT YOU'LL SEE THERE'S THE CHART ON THE TOP. 
          WENT THROUGH A PROCESS WHERE STAFF FROM ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS BROUGHT IN SOME CITIZENS ON WHAT CAN WE TWEAK? IS THERE OVERLAP OF SERVICES AND INFORMATION REQUESTED? AND HOW CAN WE KIND OF, HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT MORE EFFICIENT TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS? SO SOME THINGS WERE IDENTIFIED AND WE'VE STARTED TO PUT THOSE IN PLACE. 
          ADDITIONAL STATE MARKERS FOR HISTORIC SITES, UM, FOR SIGN MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, CELEBRATED THAT WORKED WITH THEM TO, TO GET THAT KNOWN TO, UM, GET THAT SIGN OUT THERE. 
          SQUARE POKE CARRIAGE HOUSE AND OUR WELCOME CENTER STEVEN TALKED ABOUT YOU FOR IT'S, YOU FORGET HOW THAT BUILDING LOOKED BEFORE WE OPENED THE WELCOME CENTER. 
          SO THAT'S A REMINDER AND IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE. 
          WHAT, JUST A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO. 
          DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC GROWTH IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE FOCUS AREAS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          INCENTIVE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL APPROVED NINE GRANTS HAVE BEEN AWARDED FOR A VARIETY OF MEDICAL FLEX USE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          WE EVEN HAVE A CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS. 
          THAT INVESTMENT IS A LITTLE BIT OVER $56 MILLION. 
          UM, TOTAL JOBS 161 ANTICIPATED WITH AN AVERAGE SALARY OF ALMOST 70,000. 
          THIS IS A REIMBURSED REIMBURSABLE BASED GRANT AS YOU KNOW. 
          SO AS THEY SPEND THESE DOLLARS, UM, WE WILL MONITOR AND REIMBURSE THAT. 
          SO IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING SO FAR. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. 
          AND AGAIN, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ALL OF THE EXPERTS OF THESE ITEMS ARE HERE IN THIS ROOM. 
          IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS OR WE'RE AVAILABLE ANYTIME. 
          FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY. 
          ANOTHER ONE OF THE FOCUS AREAS, DIGITAL BUDGET BOOK FACILITY RENTAL FEES THAT WE REVIEWED, MADE SURE THOSE WERE APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WAS BEING USED APPROVED BY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, THE BARN PARK 
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FACILITY RENTAL POLICY, I BELIEVE, UM, MAYBE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE WE ASKED COUNCIL, WE ASKED Y'ALL, HOW SHOULD WE OPERATE THIS? IS THIS A STAFF DRIVEN OPERATION? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH AN OUTSIDE AGENCY OR CONSULTANT? LIKE, LIKE HOW ARE WE GOING TO USE THIS AND PUT THAT IN PLACE? UM, YOU PROVIDED DIRECTION TO US AND LINDY HAS TAKEN THAT ON WITH HER GROUP, AS SHE SAID. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE ALREADY 40 RENTALS FOR THAT. 
          SO, UM, EXCITED TO TO CHECK OUT THE RUN THROUGH AT THANKSGIVING. 
          HEATHER? YES, SIR. 
          UM, ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES THAT YOU JUST TOUCHED ON THE PRIOR SLIDE, UM, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TACKLED SOME OF THE, UM, EARLY CHILDCARE FACILITIES. 
          AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS ECONOMICALLY THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH TWO DIFFERENT, UM, BUSINESSES. 
          YES, YES. 
          THERE'S TWO, TWO, UM, CHILDCARE CENTERS THAT HAVE OR HAVE BEEN APPROVED TO RECEIVE, TO RECEIVE SOME FUNDS MOVING FORWARD THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AGAIN, A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS TALKED ABOUT SPLASH PADS CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR PUBLIC SPACES AND OUR PARKS, UM, ADJUSTING ACCORDINGLY. 
          SPLASH PAD, UM, THE NEW RIVER LINEAR TRAIL, AND THEN OTHER THINGS, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT STUDIES, AS WELL AS CYBERSECURITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND AI POLICY. 
          LIKE I SAID, I USED AI TO JUST TYPE IN, HEY, WHAT'S STRATEGIC PLANNING? UM, YOU KNOW, AND CAME UP WITH THAT. 
          BUT AGAIN, MAKING SURE WE FOLLOW THAT AI POLICY. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT WAS STRATEGIC INITIALLY, BUT YOU WON'T SEE THAT SAME INITIATIVE OVER AND OVER. 
          WE'VE DRAFTED THE POLICY, BUT NOW WHAT NEXT? SO YES, THERE WILL STILL PROBABLY BE A PRESENCE OF AI AND WHAT'S THAT STRATEGIC INITIATIVE? BUT WE'VE ESTABLISHED THAT INITIAL START THROUGH. 
          UM, ALSO TECHNOLOGY USED TO PREVENT, UM, AND SOLVE CRIMES. 
          THE FLOCK CAMERAS, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WAS STRATEGIC IN NATURE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS? IT WAS ADDRESSED IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN AS AN ACTION ITEM. 
          THEN THERE WAS THE BUDGET, BUDGETARY APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          AND THAT HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH THE CIP PROJECT. 
          AND AGAIN, IF YOU REALLY DRILL DOWN IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN ONLINE, YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION FOR THE DETAILS OF THAT ITEM. 
          SO WE TRY TO PUT AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT THERE WITHOUT DOING INFORMATION OVERLOAD. 
          BUT HOW MANY CRIMES HAVE BEEN SOLVED, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE SUCCESS? SO THE WHY, THE HOW AND WHAT THE RESULTS WERE MAY RIVER AND THE SURROUNDING RIVERS AND WATERSHEDS CONTINUES TO BE A PRIORITY OF THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL. 
          SO THAT, UH, AGAIN, IS ONE OF OUR FOCUS AREAS. 
          COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE PLANS. 
          WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH THE WATERSHEDS IN THE TOWN. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT AND WE SEE FLOODING ISSUES AND STORM WATER ISSUES, WE MAY HAVE TO ADJUST. 
          AND THAT IS, THERE WAS ONE ADJUSTMENT AS FAR AS MOVING THROUGH THE OLD TOWN, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THEN KIND OF TAKING A TURN AND GOING TOWARDS WHERE WE SAW MORE FLOODING, UM, NEAR LIKE THE FARM, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          AND NOW WE'RE MOVING INTO RESILIENCY. 
          UM, THE WATERSHED, UM, STAFF, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY WELL WITH PARTNERS WITH UNIVERSITIES AS WELL AS OTHERS TO REALLY ADDRESS THIS AS SOON, YOU KNOW, EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE LATER THIS AFTERNOON, SOME ACTION AGENDA ITEMS OUR ORGANIZATION TALKED ABOUT, THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO TRY TO DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS SO THAT WE MAKE SURE WE'RE ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS REQUESTING. 
          AND THEN, UM, WITH TOWN COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE CONTINUED EMPLOYEE DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING AND WELLNESS AND RECOGNITION. 
          ONE THING YOU WILL SEE THAT IS A NEW FEATURE THAT I BELIEVE IS, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HAS BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED IS BEAUFORT MEMORIAL IS COMING TO US AND COMING TO, UM, TOWN HALL AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU JUST CAN'T GET OUT OF THE OFFICE FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, SHOTS, IMMUNIZATIONS, JUST AGAIN, TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO HELP, UM, THE STAFF AS WELL, YOU KNOW, TO STAY HEALTHY AND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE BENEFITS WE HAVE. 
          SO, UPCOMING INITIATIVES, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NEXT? AND, UM, BILL AND MIKE WILL HELP US GO THROUGH WHAT THOSE INITIATIVES ARE. 
          BUT I WILL SAY STAFF LISTENS,  TO COUNCIL. 
          WE KEEP A LIST OF WHAT YOU ALL, WHAT WE'VE HEARD 
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FROM YOU ALL AS FAR AS WHAT WE NEED TO WORK ON, WHAT WE NEED TO EXPAND ON, WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER. 
          SO WE'VE STARTED THAT. 
          UM, WANNA HEAR FROM YOU ALL. 
          ARE WE STILL IN LINE? DO WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT? HOW DO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD? SOME THINGS THAT WE, IF YOU GO INTO THAT STRATEGIC PLAN, YOU MAY SEE WE HAVEN'T STARTED YET, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S HOW FAR RADAR WE'RE NOT WORKING ON IT. 
          BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN REVIEW. 
          IN THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT ADDRESSED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS. 
          WE WORKED, UM, AND REVISED THE BUCK ISLAND SIMPSONVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. 
          THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETE. 
          NEXT STEPS. 
          SO THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTATION. 
          THE NEXT PLAN THAT STAFF IS PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IS JUST A REVISIT OF THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN. 
          NOT TO SAY WE NEED TO REDO IT, BUT LET'S PULL IT OUT. 
          IS IT STILL APPLICABLE? ARE THERE ITEMS THAT NEED TO CHANGE? IT'S 20 YEARS OLD, DOESN'T NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. 
          YES, NO, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, SO THAT IS AN ITEM IN LA IN, SORRY, THE CURRENT PLAN THAT WE PLAN ON CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER DIRECTION, MASTER PARK PATHWAY PLAN, THAT IS ACTUALLY, WE'RE STARTING TO WORK ON THE PLANNING PROCESS OF THAT. 
          AND THAT HAS BEEN BUDGETED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          SO AGAIN, IF THERE'S SPECIFIC DETAILS OR DIRECTION OR MORE INPUT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ANTICIPATE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING PROCESS THIS YEAR. 
          THIS ONE I WANTED TO THROW OUT THERE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL HUGE ITEMS OR BIG PLANS AND UNDERTAKINGS. 
          BAILEYVILLE EXPANSION IS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE CURRENT PLAN. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN DID ADOPT LOCALLY. 
          THAT IS JUST TO, UH, REMIND EVERYONE. 
          WHAT THAT IS, IS BASICALLY A FREEZE ON REHABILITATION, RENOVATION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES PRIOR TO THE REMODEL. 
          SO YOUR TAX ARE, ARE ASSESSED. 
          THE ASSESSMENT IS FROZEN IN TIME BEFORE THE RENOVATIONS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THAT SQUARE POPE HOUSE WAS PRIVATELY OWNED BEFORE THE RENOVATIONS, THAT ASSESSED VALUE'S GONNA BE MUCH LOWER THAN POST RENOVATIONS. 
          SO BASICALLY THE LOCAL TAXES, TOWN PROPERTY TAXES ARE FROZEN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          THAT IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, Y'ALL HAD ASKED US TWO YEARS, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, CAN, LET'S TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN EXPAND THAT TO THE COUNTY AND OTHERS. 
          NOT SURE HOW RECEPTIVE THAT IS, BUT THAT IS STILL IN THE PLAN. 
          SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT STAFF TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON OR, UM, INDICATE OR, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANYTHING MORE TO DO ON THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MASTER PLAN? THIS IS ALSO IN THERE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS. 
          YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT IMPLICATE BUDGETS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST GLOSS OVER ALL THESE. 
          JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU DO DIG DOWN, LIKE I SAID, 70% OF THOSE ACTION ITEMS HAVE BEEN COMPLETE. 
          SOME HAVE NOT, BUT WE'RE CONTING, EXCUSE ME, CONTINUING TO WORK ON THEM. 
          AND TODAY IS THE DAY TOO. 
          IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT US TO ADJUST, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, EXPANDED ON, MAYBE IT'S NO LONGER APPLICABLE, OR THERE'S OTHER PRIORITIES LIKE BILL SAID THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO FOCUS ON FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADJUST THAT. 
          LIKE I SAID, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHERE WE EXPECT TO CONTINUE TO WORK FORWARD FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. 
          AND WHILE HE BRINGS HIS PRESENTATION UP, I'LL JUST POINT OUT AS, AS A HOUSEKEEPING RESTROOM, , THERE'S COFFEE, THERE'S SNACKS, EVERYBODY IS WELCOME. 
          PLEASE GET A CUP OF COFFEE, GET SOME FRUIT, FRUIT, GET SOME PASTRIES IF YOU WANT. 
          FEEL FREE TO GET UP AND MOVE AROUND AS YOU NEED TO. 
          UM, SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT FROZEN IN PLACE. 
          UH, FEEL FREE. 
          OKAY, WE'VE GOT JUST A FEW MINUTES OF, OF THIS, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK BEFORE WE GET INTO THE, THE WORK. 
          JUST A REAL OF WHAT IS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN FROM THE ACTION PERSPECTIVE IS, UM, THE FOCUS AREAS AND THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, I TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER. 
          THOSE ARE THE EVERGREEN COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN. 
          SO WHAT IS 
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 WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THERE ARE OPERATIONAL AND ROUTINE ITEMS. SO WE DON'T WANT TO DRAG THAT STUFF FORWARD. 
          DON'T SEE, AS HEATHER POINTED OUT, SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE, THAT THEY NOW HAVE OPERATIONALIZED THAT ARE PART OF THE DAY-TO-DAY WORK. 
          THE OTHER THING, OUR BUDGET ALLOCATIONS, IF IT'S A ONE TIME PROJECT OR, HEY, YOU WANT ME TO HAVE A MIC, HUH? , I MADE SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT HAVING IT. 
          UM, SO WHAT IS, UH, THE OTHER THING NOT INCLUDED IN THERE ARE BUDGET ALLOCATION. 
          SO SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE BUDGET THAT IS INTENDED TO BE DONE WITHIN A SINGLE FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET FOR 2026 AND YET TO BE FINISHED, THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS LIST AS WELL. 
          VAGUE ASPIRATIONS. 
          THAT'S THAT DREAMY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS, I CAN'T DEFINE IT, THEN IT'S HARD TO PUT IN THERE. 
          SO WE WANNA LEAVE THOSE BIG ASPIRATIONS OUT UNLESS THEY'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY KIND OF PIN DOWN WHAT THEY, UM, WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. 
          SO YESTERDAY WE USED WHAT WE CONSIDER THIS CLEAR, THE WHITEBOARD KIND OF THING, WHICH IS WHAT IS ON YOUR, WHAT'S ON YOUR TO-DO LIST. 
          AND WE LOOKED TO THE STAFF AND WE SAID, ALL RIGHT, WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD? WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD COUNCIL SAY? WHAT DO WE KNOW COUNCIL WANTS? WHAT IS ON YOUR LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO DO? THAT'S WE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF PROVERBIAL THROW IT ALL ON THE WALL AND LET'S, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          THAT WAS THE START OF, OF WHERE WE WERE. 
          UM, WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE STAFF ABOUT PROJECTS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT, UM, BOTH FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE AND FROM WHAT THEY HAVE HEARD FROM COUNCIL OVER THE LAST, UH, 12 MONTHS OR SO. 
          THEN WE STARTED WITH THE, UH, BASED ON SIMON SINK, HE'S, OR SINEK. 
          HE'S A, UM, LEADERSHIP AND ORGANIZATIONAL, UH, I'M GONNA CALL HIM A MASTERMIND RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, HE HAS A CONCEPT OF START WITH WHY, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WE'RE NOT GONNA FOCUS ON WHAT WE'RE DOING OR HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. 
          THAT'S THE DETAILS FOR LATER. 
          BUT WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHY, WHY, WHY DID, WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT TO DO? WE LOOK AT, UH, RESIDENT SURVEY RESULTS, YOU LOOK AT NEEDS RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE THE WHY'S, AND THAT'S WHAT WE, WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON. 
          STAFF DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO STAY AT THAT LEVEL, BUT THEY ALSO, UH, BECAUSE THEY WORK IN THE DETAILS DAY TO DAY, WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME YESTERDAY TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THINGS. 
          UM, AND WE HAD TO, WE CONSTANTLY HAD TO PULL THE STAFF OUT OF THAT CONVERSATION AND SAY, IS THIS A GOOD PROJECT? WE'RE GONNA DO THE SAME WITH YOU TODAY. 
          THIS IS NOT THE ONLY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THESE. 
          SO WHEN WE GIVE YOU A PROJECT, WE'RE GONNA SAY, UH, IS THIS WORTH PURSUING? AND IF THE ANSWER COLLECTIVELY IS YES, THEN WE'RE GONNA PURSUE IT. 
          BUT WE, LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA PURSUE IT. 
          UM, THAT THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT, TODAY'S NOT THE RIGHT DAY FOR THAT. 
          AND, UH, YOU GOTTA HA STAFF THEN HAS TO HAVE THE TIME TO KIND OF FLESH IT OUT. 
          AND YOU'LL SEE THESE AGAIN. 
          UH, SO TODAY IS THE ROUGH DRAFT. 
          AND THEN, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT ROUGH DRAFT. 
          YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO MASSAGE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN FOR A FINAL ADOPTION BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST BITE AT THE APPLE TODAY. 
          UM, SO TODAY IS THE INTRODUCTORY. 
          WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU A RED APPLE OR A GREEN APPLE. 
          YOU GET TO PICK ONE, AND WE'LL MOVE FROM THERE. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NEXT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE A BREAK AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO OUR, OUR PROJECT CHART. 
          UH, ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE PROJECT CHART, TAB FOUR OF YOUR BINDER HAS MULTIPLE SINGLE PAGES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN, UH, IN, IN THE PIPELINE. 
          SOME OF THOSE ARE DUPLICATE TO WHAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE SCREEN TODAY, AND SOME ARE NOT. 
          PLEASE KNOW THAT THOSE WILL THEN BE MERGED WITH WHAT WE DO TODAY, AND YOU WILL SEE A FINAL LIST. 
          SO IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE FOLKS THAT LIKE TO FLIP THROUGH IT, DON'T FREAK OUT THAT, HEY, THIS ISN'T ON YOUR LIST, BILL. 
          UM, KNOW THAT, THAT THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT ARE THERE ARE GONNA MERGE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO IF YOU HEAR SOMEONE SAY, OH, THAT'S ON THE LIST ALREADY, THEN IT'S IN TAB FOUR, SO 
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YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FOLLOWING THROUGH TAB FOUR, PAGE BY PAGE. 
          JUST KNOW THAT THAT, AND THE LIST THAT WE WORK ON TODAY ARE GONNA BE MERGED. 
          UH, THEY JUST CAME FROM TWO DIFFERENT SOURCES AND THEY WERE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TRY TO GET PUT TOGETHER, UM, IN THE WORK THAT WE DID YESTERDAY. 
          SO THOSE TWO THINGS ARE, ARE THERE. 
          SO WITH THAT, LET'S TAKE 10 OR 15 MINUTES, TRY TO GET BACK, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA 10, LET'S DO 10. 
          AND WE WILL, UH, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. 
          THIS IS THE, SORRY, TRYING TO TAKE OVER MY, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT, OH, THERE'S MINE. 
          OH, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS AN IQ TEST. 
          HOW TO TURN THE MIC ON. 
          UH, SO, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE ARE NOW GOING TO GET INTO THE, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE PROJECTS. 
          I, I KIND OF WANT TO START OFF, UM, KIND OF WANNA START OFF BY REITERATING WHAT, WHAT BILL MENTIONED AT THE, AT THE END IS, WE ARE GONNA, YOU KNOW, GREAT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? AND, AND THE MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE ULTIMATELY WITH APPROVING THESE PROJECTS. 
          BUT TO GET INTO THE HOW, UH, WE COULD BE HERE, UH, ALL DAY. 
          SO IF I, IF I START HEARING HOW, 'CAUSE I'M FACILITATING THIS SECTION, THEN I'M GONNA SAY, HOW, HOW, HOW, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, YOU GUYS WILL PROBABLY GET TIRED OF THAT. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, UH, TO KINDA KEEP THINGS IN LINE. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS, UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PROJECTS, IS WE'VE DEVELOPED THIS, WHAT WE CALL LEAD, PARTNER, AND SUPPORT APPROACH. 
          AND A LOT OF, UM, THIS IS IN YOUR WORKBOOK, UH, BUT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY, UH, AT A POLITICAL LEVEL IN THE COMMUNITY IS DETERMINING WHERE ARE WE AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT TIMES SHOULD WE LEAD A PROJECT? WHAT TIMES SHOULD WE PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY FOR, AND WHAT TIME SHOULD WE SUPPORT A PARTICULAR PROJECT? AND SO WE'VE CREATED A MATRIX THAT, THAT PROVIDES, UM, PROVIDES CRITERIA FOR WHEN SHOULD YOU LEAD A PROJECT, IF IT'S IN YOU, IF IT'S IN YOUR WHEELHOUSE. 
          AND A LOT OF CITIES, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOUR BANDWIDTH OR YOUR SIZE, I MEAN, IT CAN BE FROM A 6,000 COMMUNITY, THE, THE POPULATION YOU'RE AT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I MANAGED BEFORE I RETIRED AT OVER 500,000, YOU STILL HAVE THIS ISSUE OF WHAT, WHAT ARE WE BEST POSITIONED TO DO? WHERE DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY WITHIN OUR WHEELHOUSE OF WHAT OUR MAJOR FUNCTION IS AS A CITY? AND IF YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN DO THINGS BETTER, YOU KNOW, AND ARE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING IT, THEN PARTNER WITH 'EM. 
          AND SO THE, I'M NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, SORT OF READ THROUGH THESE, BUT THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES. 
          UH, LEAD IS IF WE HAVE THE INTERNAL SKILLS TO DO IT, IF YOU, THE PUBLIC EXPECTS US TO LEAD, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT, UH, RISK IF WE DON'T LEAD, THERE'S A, AND THEN A PARTNER, YOU FIND OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEIR PARTNERS THAT HAVE STRENGTH, UH, THEIR SHARED OWNERSHIP BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT, MODERATE INVESTMENT AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, AND THEN ON THE, ON THE SUPPORT SIDE, SO WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, IN, IN SOME CASES IT MAY BE, YES, WE'RE GONNA IN PROBABLY 90%, 95% OF THESE PROJECTS PROBABLY GOOD TO LEAD, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME AREAS WHERE YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT YOU'VE GOT GOOD PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND LET THOSE PARTNERS TAKE A LEAD ON THIS WITH YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BILL, WE CAN MOVE INTO THE, SO THE, THE FIRST AREA WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, WE'VE GOT SIX FOCUS AREAS WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH. 
          UM, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO POSITION MYSELF ON THIS. 
          SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT SIX FOCUS AREAS WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH. 
          WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, FOCUS AREA. 
          AND, UM, THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE'VE GOT IS A, UH, AN ITEM THAT, UH, UH, FROM THE COUNCIL ON LOOKING AT A POSITION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A POSITION THAT WOULD BE, UM, 
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DESIGNATED IN THE CITY TO, AS A RESPONSIBILITY TO, UH, FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          I, I KNOW STAFF IS, IS CURRENTLY DOING THAT, BUT THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT, UH, UM, THAT WE, UM, WE GOT FROM THE STAFF TO AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, UH, THIS MORNING WITH THE COUNCIL. 
          SO I'LL, UH, TURN IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON THIS FOR ANY, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING OR STATEMENTS? YES, MA'AM. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, NOT MORE. 
          SO QUESTIONS. 
          I THINK, UH, STATEMENT IN THE SENSE OF EDUCATING OUR PUBLIC IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          PEOPLE HEAR THE TERM AND THEY AUTOMATICALLY THINK IT'S A DESIGNATED AMOUNT THAT THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED QUALIFY FOR, AND IT'S NOT. 
          UM, I THINK THE MAIN ISSUE WE'RE SEEING IS THAT AS OUR A MI CONTINUES TO INCREASE THAT CONCEPT OF AFFORDABILITY IN TERMS OF WHAT HOMES ARE BEING BUILT AT, CONTINUE TO BOX OUT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEED THE HOUSING. 
          AND SO AFFORDABILITY FOR THE RIGHT INCOME IS ALWAYS GONNA BE AFFORDABLE. 
          UM, PALMETTO BLUFF IS AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE WHO CAN GO THERE. 
          BUT OUR AVERAGE, UM, WORKER AND KNOWING THAT OUR BIGGEST BASE IS HOSPITALITY, UM, EDUCATION. 
          AND I THINK THE MEDICAL FIELD, UM, MANY TIMES FIND THEMSELVES LEFT OUT OF THAT. 
          WHEN, UM, THE RECENT MIT REPORT AND THE, UM, RECENT POVERTY REPORT SAYS THAT AN AVERAGE PERSON NEEDS TO, A SINGLE PERSON LIVING IN BEAUFORT COUNTY NEEDS TO MAKE AT LEAST $71,000 TO LIVE HERE. 
          THERE'S NO HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEING, UH, BUILT THAT KIND OF ADDRESSES THAT. 
          AND IF IT'S A FAMILY OF FOUR, THEY NEED TO MAKE $134,000 TO LIVE HERE. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOUSING, I THINK WE CONTINUE TO MISS THE GAP BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING THE FOLKS WHO ACTUALLY NEED IT, THAT ARE NEVER REALLY INCLUDED IN THIS CONVERSATION. 
          SO IT'S LIKE, HOW DO WE POSITION OURSELVES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING AFFORDABILITY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE HERE? UM, AND WE ARE SEEING A WORKFORCE FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE TOUCHING A LOT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, THEY'RE COMING FROM ALLENDALE, THEY'RE COMING FROM FAIRFAX. 
          THEY'RE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TWO HOURS AWAY FROM AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIALLY TO WORK HERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK LIKE, IF WE CAN FOCUS OUR CONVERSATION AROUND THE NEED OF WHAT WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED OVER THE LAST TWO DECADES, AND KEEPING UP WITH THAT, UM, IS GONNA HELP US. 
          AND I SEE THAT THE TINY HOMES OPTIONS IS THERE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, MM-HMM . 
          I SPOKE WITH AND SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAD MENTIONED WITH STEVEN ABOUT, I THINK WE COULD GET REALLY GOOD TRACTION ON THAT, THAT I BELIEVE THAT UDO CURRENTLY DOESN'T ALLOW US TO BUILD. 
          UM, THERE'S NOT LANGUAGE CODIFIED IN THERE FOR IT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE GREAT EXAMPLES OF NEIGHBORING CITIES THAT HAVE DONE IT. 
          SAVANNAH'S BEEN A GREAT ONE, UM, THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA PUT A LOT MORE PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD HOMES OF THAT SIZE INTO THE, UM, INTO THE CONVERSATION. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, BOY, WHAT A CONUNDRUM. 
          THIS, THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN FOR FOREVER, AND MR. HAMILTON HAS BEEN DOING IT FOR 20 YEARS, I THINK TRYING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE. 
          UM, WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME SMALL SUCCESSES, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH BEAUFORT MEMORIAL, AND THAT'S 120 UNIT RENTAL. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE PARTNERED WITH DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. 
          THE COUNTY, IT WAS A TRIFECTA IN BEAUFORT MEMORIAL AND US, UM, THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND HAS STARTED THAT CAME OUT OF THE SO LOCO INITIATIVE THAT'S STARTING TO BEAR FRUIT. 
          IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY JUST BE IN BLUFFTON, BUT IT'S IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          UM, SO ALL OF THESE COLLECTIVELY HELP. 
          I, I STILL FEEL LIKE WE NEED, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. 
          WE DON'T JUST NEED, UH, OWNERSHIP, WE NEED LOTS OF RENTALS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, WE, WE DON'T EVEN HARDLY TOUCH THE NEEDLE OR MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE RENTAL APPLICATION OF IT. 
          UM, IF SOMEHOW WE COULD GET MORE RENTALS ON THE MARKET, IT MIGHT HELP WITH THE AFFORDABILITY SOMEWHERE. 
          BUT TO HER POINT, I, I'VE SEEN IT. 
          I JUST CAME BACK FROM GEORGIA AND MY GOSH, I MEAN, EVERYBODY KNOWS POOL, POOL, RYING, UH, EVERYTHING AROUND HERE, UP AND DOWN, PEOPLE ARE JUST, IT, IT IS EXPLODING. 
          AND I'VE JUST SEEN APARTMENTS EVERYWHERE, BUT HERE, PER SE, THAT'S AFFORDABLE. 
          SO I THINK 
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WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. 
          AND THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD ADD IS, UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE REGIONAL HOUSING TRUST FUND BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, UH, TAKING PLACE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. 
          AND SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO HOW TO GO ABOUT IT, BUT I WANTED THE HOUSING TRUST FUND TO BE A BANK, MORE OR LESS, TO BRING IN ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY'S DOING. 
          SO ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY, WHICHEVER MUNICIPALITY OR THE COUNTY COULD LOOK AT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING. 
          AND MAYBE WE MIGHT FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKS BETTER, BUT I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET, BUT THAT'S JUST A GOAL OF MINE, SO. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. HAMILTON, EVERY SURVEY THAT WE, THAT WE DO, NOT ONLY IN, UH, BEAUFORD COUNTY OR, OR OUR REGION EVEN, UM, NATIONWIDE, IT SAYS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A PROBLEM. 
          WE'VE BEEN, UH, ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN BLUFFTON SINCE 2005. 
          THE MOVING THE NEEDLE HAS BEEN, UM, LIKE PUSHING, UM, SCREW UP THE HILL. 
          YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE SOME PROGRESS THAT I AM PROUD OF, BUT I SEE THAT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT HAS BEEN, UM, PROBABLY, UM, SKILLED OVER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, UM, ENOUGH MECHANISM IN PLACE TO SAY WE, LIKE DAN JUST SAID, WE, WE KNOW HOW TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS, OR WE KNOW HOW TO PUT THE NEXT PIECE OF PUZZLE TOGETHER. 
          SO DEVELOPING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT GIVES US MORE INTENTION, UH, MAKE US MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT WHY IT SHOULD BE A EVERYDAY CONVERSATION AND NOT JUST, UM, WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT OR WHEN WE HAVE THESE TYPE WORKSHOPS TO SAY IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A CONCERN. 
          SO I LIKE TO SEE US BE MORE FOCUSED ON A INTENTIONALLY TO SAY THIS IS A PRIORITY, UM, NOT ONLY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT IT'S A PRIORITY THAT TON IS GOING TO ADDRESS ON A DAILY, UM, ON A, ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          AND, AND THIS DEPARTMENT IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEM, BUT THIS DEPARTMENT IS GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THE HAND IS ALWAYS ON THE PULSE. 
          WE ALWAYS KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TOMORROW. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, WE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF REPAIRING HOMES, WHICH, WHICH IS ALSO, UH, UH, SEGMENTABLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD PARTNER. 
          THERE'S OTHER WAY WE COULD COLLABORATE, AND THERE'S OTHER WAYS WE CAN TRAIN AND WE CAN BE, UM, A, A LEADER IN OUR, IN OUR REGION THAT I'M SURE OTHERS WILL TAKE NOTES FROM. 
          AND WE, AND HILTON HEAD HAS TAKEN SOME PAGES FROM OUR BOOK ALREADY. 
          SO WE, WE, WE ARE DEFINITELY, UM, I'M, WELL, I'M DEFINITELY PROUD OF THE STAFF AND THE COUNCIL THAT SAYS, LET'S MOVE TO THAT TO ANOTHER LEVEL IN BLUFFTON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL KEEP, I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR POLICE OFFICERS, OUR TEACHERS, OUR NURSES CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. 
          AND, UM, WORKING WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS, WORKING WITH NON-PROFITS, I THINK SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE, UM, PRIORITY FOR THE TOWN. 
          AND TRYING TO BE CREATIVE AND THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX WITH THE TINY HOMES AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN DO THAT. 
          BUT KEEPING IN MIND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR NUMBER ONE, UM, CRITICISM WE HEAR IS GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND SO TRYING TO BE CREATIVE WITH IT, I THINK IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO. 
          BUT I AGREE THAT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE SUPPORTED AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS SINCE DAY ONE. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN, BEEN A LITTLE BIT DONE, BUT VERY LITTLE BIT IN MY OPINION COMPARED TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN KICKING THE BALL, KICKING THE BALL DOWN THE ROAD AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO DO IT. 
          WAYS TO FIND MONEY. 
          SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY IS A BIG ISSUE. 
          THE RENTAL PART OF IT IS, IS NEEDED. 
          I, I SEE THE SOLUTION, OR NOT THE SOLUTION, BUT A STEPPING STONE TOWARDS THE 
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SOLUTION AS BEING STEPPING STONES FOR PEOPLE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF THEIR LIFE. 
          NOBODY WANTS TO RENT FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE, BUT I'VE RENTED PLENTY OF YEARS BEFORE I COULD AFFORD TO BUY MY OWN HOME. 
          AND MOST OF US IN HERE PROBABLY HAVE HELPING, HELPING THOSE PEOPLE KEEP THEIR JOB, BE ABLE TO COME TO WORK AND LIVE AND WORK AND BE ABLE TO RAISE A FAMILY. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OUR BIG PART OF OUR WORKFORCE HAS CHILDREN AND YOU GOTTA BE AT SCHOOL. 
          I GOT FIVE KIDS AND 18 GRANDKIDS. 
          AND I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S A JOB JUST TRYING TO BE WHERE YOU GOTTA BE AT CERTAIN TIMES. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO WORK, YOU'RE WORKING ALREADY. 
          SO TAKING, IF, IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF HELP FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN THOSE, THOSE HARD, YOUR FIRST YEARS AND WHEN YOU'RE RAISING SMALL CHILDREN IS THE HARDEST PART OF YOUR LIFE, YOU KIND OF GET A LITTLE SMARTER AND A LITTLE MORE FORTUNATE AS WE MOVE ON. 
          BUT WE JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO FIGURE IT OUT AND, AND THROW IT TO US SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT IT AND THEN ADD TO IT OR TRIM IT OR WHATEVER TO, UM, TO DO MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. 
          I HAVE A, UM, A QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          I THINK THIS WAS POSED, UM, BEFORE AND IT REALLY DIDN'T KIND OF GO ANYWHERE. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE FEASIBILITY IN TERMS OF FROM A, A LEGAL STANDPOINT OF EVEN PUTTING IT IN, UM, IN OUR POLICY TO OFFER A FEE IN LIEU OF, INSTEAD OF HOW WE WERE DOING WITH SOME DEVELOPERS IN THEIR PROJECTS, FORCING 'EM TO BUILD, UM, BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO A CERTAIN PERCENT IN THEIR PROJECT. 
          UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE FEASIBILITY TO, INSTEAD OF FORCING TO BUILD THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE PROJECT, TO CAPTURE THOSE DOLLARS AND BE ABLE TO, IF WE DO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, UM, BE ABLE TO HAVE A BANK THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR? 'CAUSE I JUST, IN MY TIME IN COUNCIL, SEEMS LIKE THAT'S NOT REALLY BEEN AS PRODUCTIVE. 
          IF WE GET SOMEONE OR A COMMUNITY WHERE, LIKE THE AVERAGE HOME IS GOING FOR SIX, 700,000 AND WE'RE SAYING WELL GIVE US 5% AFFORDABLE, STILL NOT ADDRESSING THE NEED OF THE COMMUNITY OR LIKE THE BASE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO STEWARD THOSE FUNDS TO COVER OUR, UM, NEEDS. 
          SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CHALLENGES, AND ONE IN THAT IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, INCLUSIONARY ZONING, WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT OF ALL LIKE SUBDIVISIONS, ALL DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD A CERTAIN PORTION AS AFFORDABLE IS ILLEGAL. 
          THE STATE SPECIFICALLY SAYS YOU CANNOT DO THAT. 
          WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, ANY NEW PUD OR PUD AMENDMENT THAT AS Y'ALL KNOWN, FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC, THAT ADDS OR ASKS FOR AN AMENDMENT TO ADD RESIDENTIAL UNITS OR A NEW PUD, THEY HAVE TO, BECAUSE THAT IS A CONTRACTUAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. 
          AND YOU CAN NEGOTIATE TERMS IF IT'S A PUD HAS TO, ORIGINALLY, I THINK WE HAD 10%, NOW WE'VE RAISED THAT TO 20% OF THOSE NEW UNITS HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE. 
          YOU COULD PUT A PROVISION IN THE UDO THAT INSTEAD OF PROVIDING THE 20% AFFORDABLE, HAVE A FEE IN LIEU OF, AT ONE POINT IN TIME, WE DID HAVE A FEE IN LIEU IN THE UDO, IT WAS NOT UTILIZED. 
          UM, AND THE CONVERSATION AT THE TIME WAS, WELL, WE, WE WOULD RATHER, IN THE PERFECT WORLD, WOULD RATHER SEE A DEVELOPER BUILD THE HOUSING THAN TO JUST PAY INTO A BANK. 
          AND THEN HOW DO WE BUILD THAT HOUSING? SO, AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD JUST ADDRESS THE PUDS AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. 
          SO THAT IS AN OPTION WE COULD EXPLORE A FEE IN LIEU OF, THAT'S JUST SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT IF SOMEBODY DOES PAY, YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE THAT FEE HIGH ENOUGH THAT THEN THE TOWN COULD IN TURN BUILD A UNIT. 
          SO IT'S JUST A BALANCING ACT OF, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA SEE THE UNITS. 
          SO WE'D RATHER JUST SAY, BUILD THOSE UNITS. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO, AND WE CAN, UM, TALK ABOUT, AND WE HAD SOME INFORMA, SOME STUFF, NOTES THAT WE KEPT IS, WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT IN THE UDO, THERE IS THE AFFORDABILITY, UM, INCENTIVES. 
          AND THERE'S WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR, UM, THE TERMS. SO WHEREAS WE ASK FOR 30 YEARS, I'M LOOKING TO KEVIN TO MAKE SURE I'M SAYING THIS RIGHT. 
          IS THAT STILL APPROPRIATE? DO WE WANT TO CHANGE THOSE AFFORDABILITY COVENANTS AND REQUIREMENTS, UM, MAKE THOSE LONGER? UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS ASK FOR IT TO BE MORE, SOMETIMES THEY'RE AGREEABLE AND CAN DO THAT, SOMETIMES NOT. 
          BUT DO WE WANNA CODIFY AND REQUIRE CHANGES TO THE AFFORDABILITY COVENANTS? UM, I WILL ALSO THROW OUT THERE, SORRY, THIS IS GETTING LENGTHY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT WE HAVE, UM, WE DO HAVE AN APARTMENT, UM, COMPLEX WHO HAS COME TO US AND SAID, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONVERT SOME OF OUR UNITS TO AFFORDABLE UNITS, RENTAL UNITS. 
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SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY INCENTIVES OR PROVISIONS TO REALLY ADDRESS THAT. 
          IT'S GREAT AND WE ARE THRILLED, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN OFFER MAYBE TO CONVERT THOSE EXISTING UNITS? SO, SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO, TO ADD THAT TO THERE. 
          SO I WOULD SAY, LET'S JUST SEE WHAT, WHAT IT IS IN TERMS OF OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE DONE IT, IN TERMS OF MAKING A WAY. 
          'CAUSE TO YOUR POINT, WE KNOW WE CAN'T GO BACK TO EXISTING AGREEMENTS AND FORCE SOMEONE TO DO SOME, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW ONES COMING IN AND NOT JUST RESIDENTIAL. 
          ONE OF OUR MEDICAL PARTNERS, UM, IN A CONVERSATION, UM, WAS SAYING THAT THEY WOULD'VE LOVED THAT OPTION. 
          I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE FORCING PEOPLE TO KIND OF COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO AREAS THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY EXPERTS IN. 
          AND IF WE HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE KNOW THOSE NEEDS. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD KIND OF STEWARD AWAY. 
          UM, EVEN IF IT'S NOT JUST, JUST SOLELY ON THE SAKE OF DEVELOPING. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN HAMILTON DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE, UH, GROUP THAT'S COMING UP ON, UM, GOTHE ROAD. 
          THOSE THREE UNITS ARE GOING UP QUICKER THAN SOMEONE WHO'S HAD OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THING FOR FIVE YEARS. 
          AND SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IF WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THAT WHO ARE WILLING TO BUILD TO THOSE NEEDS, AND WE CAN SAY LIKE, HEY, WE HAVE A BANK. 
          EVEN IF IT'S TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OR WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT WAY EASIER THAN EXPECTING PEOPLE TO KIND OF DO IT AND THROUGH A CONVOLUTED SYSTEM. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          I THINK, MIKE, REAL QUICK. 
          SURE. 
          UM, THIS JUST CAME OUT FROM STAFF. 
          UM, IT'S NOT UP THERE. 
          SO HILTON HEAD HAS ALREADY BEEN DEALING WITH CONVERSIONS OF PROPERTIES LONG, LONG BEFORE WE HAVE, AND THAT IS SOMETHING I DON'T REMEMBER US HAVING A DISCUSSION ON, BUT 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE LIMITED BY HOW MUCH LAND WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. 
          I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. 
          THE OTHER PART IS THERE MAY BE THINGS COMING UP ON THE HORIZON THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE STAFF TO START LOOKING AT THAT. 
          NOW, FROM A PERMITTING UDO PERSPECTIVE, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO CONVERT SOMETHING, WHATEVER IT MAY LOOK LIKE, UM, COULD BE WAREHOUSES FOR GOD, GOODNESS SAKES OR SOMETHING, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THAT AND NOT LET THAT COME TO US. 
          AND THEN IT TAKES TWO TO THREE YEARS LATER. 
          WELL, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WE HAVE, WE HAVE LOTS OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BE DEVELOPED . 
          SO IF IT'S GONNA BE AN OLD TYPE MULTIFAMILY, SO, SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I JUST, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION. 
          SO I WANT TO, I WANT GO BACK AND I WANT TO JUST ON THE, THE FIRST ITEM BECAUSE, UH, THIS WHOLE QUESTION ABOUT A AFFORDABLE HOUSING POSITION OR, UH, DEPARTMENT FOR, UH, THE TOWN AND THE, THE COUNCIL'S POSITION ON THAT, BECAUSE, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, UM, RECEIVED, UH, FROM STAFF THROUGH THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND SO THE QUESTION BECOMES, YOU KNOW, IS IT A DO WE, DO WE, DO WE GO TO THE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL? UH, IS THERE A WAY TO ALSO, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STAFF TO LOOK AT A REORGANIZATION, POTENTIALLY REORGANIZE A BIT, AND THEN, UM, WITH MORE FOCUS ON, ON, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THEN HAVE THE MANAGER SUBMIT A PROPOSAL, OR DOES THE COUNCIL WANT A DEPARTMENT WITH A POSITION? AND I THINK WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY WE WANT TO, IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. 
          IS IT SOMETHING THAT THAT'S A STRATEGIC INITIATIVE THAT YOU WANT STAFF TO WORK ON? I, I, I THINK WE'LL BE, UM, GOING BACKWARD TO SAY, DO WE WANT ONE? 'CAUSE WE ALREADY AGREED THAT WE WANT ONE, NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, PHYSICIANS AND, AND, AND HOW MANY STAFF, WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, THE BUDGET WOULD, HOW THE BUDGET WOULD REFLECT ON, ON, ON THAT DEPARTMENT. 
          SO I PREFER US NOT TO GO BACK TO SAYING WHETHER WE WANT ONE NOW IS HOW, HOW WOULD IT, HOW WOULD IT, UM, COME TO FRUITION IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I GOT A QUESTION, QUESTION FOR YOU, MIKE. 
          SO DID YOU DO THIS FOR A LIVING? YES, SIR. 
          YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY SMALL TOWN OR OR TOWN THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH. 
          WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN? DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU CAN GIVE US THROUGH YOUR TRAVELS AND YOUR EXPERTISE AND YEAH, SURE. 
          AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN MORE THAN OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          MAYOR. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE, THAT'S WHY WE PUT UP THE CHART ON, YOU KNOW, THE LEAD PARTNER SUPPORT. 
          BECAUSE IN, IN, IN A LOT OF AREAS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S A, IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU ALREADY HAVE, YOU HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AS I UNDERSTAND, AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, UH, FOR THE, FOR THE TOWN. 
          AND SO IN, IN MOST JURISDICTIONS OF THIS SIZE, IT'S A, IT'S MORE OF A PARTNERING APPROACH WITH THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, THERE CAN BE AN EMPHASIS ON HAVING, UM, 
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YOU KNOW, A POSITION LIKE A, A, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF YOUR STAFF POSITIONS. 
          HAVING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESPONSIBILITY, LET'S SAY WHEN I WAS A DEPUTY MANAGER, PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITY COULD HAVE BEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          LARGER CITIES HAVE POSITIONS DESIGN DESIGNATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          BUT I THINK IN THE CASE OF BLUFFTON, UM, IF, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COUNCIL, IF, IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE STAFF TO EXPLORE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME POTENTIAL OF, UH, MY EXPERIENCE IN, IN, IN COMMUNITIES OF THIS SIZE OF REPOSITIONING OR REORGANIZING STAFF TO FOCUS THEN ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HAVING THE MANAGER, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT A PROPOSAL ON A, ON ON FROM THAT STANDPOINT ON HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU REPOSITION A POSITION THAT'S ALREADY HERE TO FOCUS ON THAT AS OPPOSED TO HIRING, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL STAFF, AT LEAST IS CONSIDERATION. 
          I CAN TELL YOU UNEQUIVOCALLY, UH, WHAT I WOULD , THIS MAY SOUND COUNTERINTUITIVE, WHAT I ALWAYS SAY TO MY COUNSEL, I'D RATHER, I'D RATHER FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN, IF WE HAVE CURRENT STAFF THAT CAN MOVE AND DO SOMETHING AS OPPOSED TO HIRING ANOTHER PHYSICIAN, I MAY HAVE TO, AT SOME POINT DURING AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN, LAY OFF. 
          I MEAN, MY, MY FIRST JOB IN A COMMUNITY WHEN I WAS ONLY 26 YEARS OLD, I HAD TO LAY PEOPLE OFF, INCLUDING FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE. 
          AND I PROMISED MYSELF NEVER TO BE IN THAT POSITION AGAIN. 
          SO IF YOU CAN REORGANIZE AND REPOSITION STEP ONE, TRY THAT. 
          IF THAT WORKS, IF IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNCIL, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. 
          IF THAT DOESN'T, IS IMPOSSIBLE, THEN YOU LOOK AT A POSITION, BUT ONLY WHEN IT CAN'T BE DONE WITH EXISTING RESOURCES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          I HOPE THAT WASN'T TOO LONG OF AN ANSWER, MAYOR. 
          I MEAN, YOU, BUT THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, UH, I WOULD START, AND SO THE QUESTION HERE IS, THIS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, IT ASKS FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEPARTMENT. 
          IS THAT, DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE THE MANAGERS SOME FLEXIBILITY TO COME BACK WITH A, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF YOUR BUDGET, TO COME BACK AS WITH A PROPOSAL ON HOW THAT COULD BE DONE, EITHER THROUGH REORG OR THROUGH, IF THAT DOESN'T WORK THROUGH A, UH, A POSITION COMMENTS, I WOULD SAY, LET'S SEE IF, 'CAUSE WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE THERE, UM, FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, AND RUNNING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE AND OTHER THINGS, UM, IT ALMOST SEEMS TO BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO YES, CARVE OUT A DEPARTMENT AND THEN, UM, TRY TO RESTRUCTURE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ALREADY IN-HOUSE DOING THAT WORK THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN LETTING THE TOWN MANAGERS SEE THE FEASIBILITY OF ADDING MORE POSITIONS. 
          OR IF IT'S A FOCUS RIGHT NOW ON JUST MAYBE ON ONE PERSON AND THE SUPPORT STAFF, I'D LIKE TO, UM, HEAR HIS THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT. 
          YEAH, I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHY THE NEED, UM, BUT I, I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO GROW INTO IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, BECAUSE I, WHAT YOU JUST SAID A MINUTE AGO WAS SOMETHING I THOUGHT ABOUT. 
          IF WE HIRED AND PUT, CREATED A DEPARTMENT AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY SUCCESS IN TWO YEARS, UM, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? ? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GONNA HOLD 'EM ACCOUNTABLE AND LET 'EM GO? OR WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? I, AND THAT'S WHY I SAID A WHILE AGO, I, I REALLY THINK STAFF, AND I HOPE STAFF WILL HELP WITH THIS PROCESS, BUT EXPLORE WHAT'S GOING ON EVERYWHERE AROUND US AND BRING IT TO THE TABLE. 
          SO IF WE DO PUT A PERSON ANOTHER POSITION IN THERE, THERE'S MORE TO WORK WITH FROM THE GET GO THAN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          UM, BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I'M, UH, I STILL HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS. 
          LIKE, SHOW ME A PICTURE OF THIS PERSON THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? WHERE, WHAT IS THEIR PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND? WHAT IS, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THEIR DIRECTION? WHAT ARE WE TELLING THEM TO DO OR EXPECTING? I MEAN, WE, WE ALL KNOW WE WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          GOT THAT. 
          WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT WE, WE HAVE TO INSTRUCT, COUNSEL HAS TO, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SEEKING PROFESSIONAL HELP TO SUCCEED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I'M, I'M JUST, I'M ALL ABOUT IT. 
          SPENDING THE MONEY TO, TO PAY SOMEBODY TO BE FULL-TIME. 
          I'M FINE WITH THAT. 
          JUST WHAT DO WE, WHAT ARE WE WANTING THEM TO DO? YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT WE, WE GO AFTER CHIPS OR WE GO AFTER GRANTS OR WE, WHAT ARE WE, I'LL SEE INSTRUCTION. 
          I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT THAT. 
          SURE. 
          WE WANT THEM TO DO WHAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WANT THEM TO, WE WANT THEM TO 
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MOVE THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE TO A DIFFERENT, TO, TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT FIGURING OUT WHO WE GONNA PARTNER WITH, WHEN WE GOING TO, UH, UH, PURCHASE SOME LAND, WHY WE SHOULD PURCHASE THE LAND. 
          WHEN, IF THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, SOME COMMERCIAL, UH, PROPERTY THAT MAY COME AVAILABLE THAT THAT PERSON IS, IS, IS CONNECTED, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY OR IN, IN, UH, TO FIND AND TO RESEARCH OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, HAVING, HAVING SAID, UM, THAT THIS IS AN, A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS OR EVEN MORE ALREADY EXPLAINS THAT WHY WE SHOULD DO IT. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU KEEP DOING THE SAME THING, WHY YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET A DIFFERENT RESULT? SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT MAKING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UM, NOT ONLY A PRIORITY BUT A ACTION ITEM. 
          YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT, WHAT, BUT IT'S TIME TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. 
          SO, AND, AND IN, IN A SHORTER TERM, LARRY, TO YOUR ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS STAFF AND STEVEN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, FOR MAKING, UM, THE POSITION AND, AND, AND THE, AND THE CRITERIA OF DE POSITION, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. 
          WE GIVE THEM THE DIRECTION, TELL 'EM WE WANT IT DONE, AND, AND, AND WE AND WE HAND IT OFF. 
          YEAH. 
          MY QUESTION WASN'T THAT PART, IT WAS WHAT ARE WE TELLING THIS PERSON TO DO? YOU KNOW THAT, I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING STAY ON IT AND I'M ALL ABOUT THAT. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE. 
          BUT ARE WE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT EXPERT, WHAT EXPERTISE DO WE NEED THIS PERSON, THE SPECIAL PERSON TO HAVE? ALRIGHT, I TRIED LEGAL BACKGROUND OR WHAT  YEAH, I, I TRIED AND YOU DIDN'T GET IT. 
          SO STEVEN IS YOUR TELL ? WELL, SO I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO ADD. 
          AND THE FACT THAT THE, I KNOW THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE HAS HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS ON THIS AND WORKSHOPS ON IT, AND IT RANGES EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, SOME SAYING WE NEED THREE OR FOUR PERSON DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO RUN IT TO WHETHER WE JUST NEED TO, UM, LOOK AT ONE PERSON. 
          UM, THE GOAL OF IT WOULD BE, I, I IS SIMILAR TO WHAT COUNCILMAN HAMILTON SAID, WHICH IS JUST TO HAVE ONE PER, BECAUSE THE EXAMPLE I GIVE IS, RIGHT NOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF BROKEN UP OVER DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          SO IT MIGHT BE 5% OF MY JOB MIGHT BE 5% OF HEATHER'S MIGHT BE 60% OF WHAT VICKY'S DOING, OR REALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          IT MIGHT BE 5% OF CHRIS OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT REALLY TO MAKE IT 100% OF SOMEBODY'S JOB, UM, WHAT MY INITIAL THOUGHTS, UM, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION AND BASED ON WHAT HEARING, WHAT COUNSEL HAS SAID WOULD BE TO LOOK AT MAYBE WHAT WAS KIND OF MENTIONED EARLIER IS DO WE NEED TO RESTRUCTURE INTERNALLY? 'CAUSE WE HAVE VICKY WHO'S KIND OF DOING THAT ROLE AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, BUT SHE FALLS UNDERNEATH GROWTH MANAGEMENT. 
          DOES THAT NEED TO COME UP INTO EXEC? CAN US ACTUALLY LOOK AT HOW WE GROW AND EXPAND AND SUPPORT HER OR, UM, UH, THE OTHER, UH, POSITION OR WHATEVER TO SPECIFICALLY FOCUS AND MAKE IT 100% OF THEIR DAY IN AND DAY OUT. 
          AND INSTEAD OF IT BEING 5% HERE, 5% THERE, 5% THERE, IT BECOMES, THOSE GET PUT INTO ONE PERSON. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROBABLY DO THAT WITH RESTRUCTURING INTERNALLY INITIALLY, SEE HOW THAT GOES, AND THEN MAKE A DECISION WHETHER IT NEEDS TO EXPAND OR NOT. 
          AND I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT IN A QUICKER BASIS THAN WE CAN IF IT COMES TO ACTUALLY CREATING A, A DEPARTMENT AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY, GETTING COUNCIL TO SIGN OFF ON THE JOB DESCRIPTION, THE ROLES AND ALL OF THAT, THEN FUNDING IT AND GOING THROUGH THAT. 
          I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY MAKE QUICKER PROGRESS AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN PUSH FORWARD BY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN IF WE SEE THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL OR IF IT NEEDS TO EXPAND, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO GROW ON THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT, UM, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION I'VE HEARD AND JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD IN THE INTERIM AND WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DONE, ULTIMATELY, I FEEL LIKE IT'S MORE OF IF THE AFFORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS THE PRIORITY THAT IT IS, IT NEEDS TO BE MOVED 
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UP TO THE PRIORITY WHICH IT DESERVES, WHICH IS NOT A ROLE UNDER BELOW A DEPARTMENT. 
          BELOW A DEPARTMENT BELOW A DEPARTMENT AND PULLED BACK UP AND MADE A PRIORITY WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION CHART OF THE TOWN. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO FAIRLY QUICKLY AND SMOOTHLY AND, AND THEN, UM, SEE WHAT WE NEED TO BACKFILL WITH, WITH THE POSITION THAT'S BEING HELD RIGHT NOW THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDING OR THE JOB DESCRIPTION TO GO ALONG WITH IT IF WE NEED TO EXPAND. 
          YEAH. 
          AND BILL, WELL, WELL WILL SAID, UH, TOWN MANAGER, UM, AND BILL, WHILE, UM, THE TOWN MANAGER WAS UH, TALKING AS HAS PUT UP A PROPOSAL FOR THE COUNCIL, UM, WHICH IS THE LAST ONE HERE TO EVA. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, UH, THE ONE THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON IS EVALUATE, IMPROVING THE, THE LAST ONE, IMPROVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPERATIONS THROUGH RESTRUCTURING AND COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS. 
          'CAUSE I THINK IT'S BOTH PARTS, BOTH PARTS OF THAT EQUATION, UH, TO LOOK AT. 
          BUT THE RESTRUCTURING, I LIKE WHAT THE TOWN MANAGER SAID BECAUSE YOU CAN RESTRUCTURE, REPOSITION SOMEONE YOU ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEIR CAPABILITY, WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO. 
          AND THEN DEPENDING UPON HOW THAT WORKS OUT, EXPAND IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT AS PROBABLY TOO MANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AS OPPOSED TO A POSITION THAT COMES ON BOARD. 
          UM, YOU HAVE TO HIRE SOMEBODY AND THE QUESTION BECOMES THAT THAT PERSON'S ABILITY TO LEARN THE COMMUNITY AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          WHERE I THINK HAVING AN EXISTING RESTRUCTURING, YOU CAN START ON THE GROUND RUNNING AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, WE CAN, THAT CAN BE DONE IN, IN IN 27. 
          SO IT'S PART OF YOUR BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR 27. 
          I I THINK WE COULD DO THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          OH, YOU THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL IT CAN BE DONE SOONER. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, ONE, ONE MORE COMMENT ON IT. 
          I THINK ALSO KNOWING THAT THE, THE DEPARTMENT OR THIS JOB ROLE ISN'T JUST ISOLATED TO ONE THING, SO IT'S NOT THE EXPECTATION THAT A PERSON'S GONNA GO OUT AND GET, YOU KNOW, UNITS BUILT LIKE FROM DAY ONE. 
          IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AS SIMPLE AS WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THESE AGREEMENTS WITH, UM, DEVELOPMENTS AND HAD TO BUILD AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE CONVERSATIONS COME UP BEFORE WITH SOME, UM, EMPLOYEES WHO'VE COME INTO THE AREA, WELL WHAT COMMUNITIES WERE THOSE? AND IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT ROLE, ASSISTING PEOPLE TO BE IDENTIFY, TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WELL THE CROWN, UM, ON, UH, BUCK ISLAND HAS X AMOUNT OF UNITS. 
          THIS IS A PLACE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAY BE AMENABLE TO YOUR NEEDS OR STAFFING THINGS. 
          SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE JUST HAVING SOMEONE THAT CAN COLLECT WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AND BEING ABLE TO PUSH THAT OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST LOOKING AT A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, BUT COORDINATING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT STREAMLINES IT, THAT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 15 PEOPLE TO GET AN ANSWER FOR IT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          SO DOES THIS CAPTURE, I JUST, WE JUST WANNA BE SURE BEFORE WHAT BILL SPLIT UP AS LACK. 
          I THINK, I THINK BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, I THINK THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T CAPTURE IS THE EXPLORE FEE STRUCTURE CHANGES. 
          BECAUSE I THINK WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN FRAZIER WAS TALKING ABOUT, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT MORE FEE IN LIEU. 
          SO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT'S REQUIRED TO BUILD NINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. 
          THEY'RE COMING CLOSE UP ON CLOSE CLOSEOUT. 
          THEY HAVEN'T BUILT THOSE, THEY'RE PROBABLY NEVER GONNA BUILD THEM. 
          IS DO WE ALLOW THEM TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU TO EXPIRE THOSE OR DO WE THEN, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS TO ACTUALLY FORCE THEM TO BUILD NINE RESIDENTIAL UNITS SOMEWHERE. 
          OR DO WE ALLOW THEM TO PAY A FEE IN LIE THAT WE CAN THEN TURN AND USE OUR PROJECTS SO THAT EXPLORE THE FEE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE EXPLORER IN LIEU FEE. 
          BECAUSE IN OUR FEE STRUCTURE, IF YOU'RE BUILDING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU DON'T PAY ANY PERMIT FEES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, SO IT'S IT'S AN IN LIEU. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE JUST NEED, AND WE ACTUALLY INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY'S BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE THE THREE ON GOTHE COUNCIL APPROVED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE COST SO MUCH PER UNIT. 
          SO WE CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ANY NEEDS FOR THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          I THINK YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU WERE GOING TOWARDS IS WE DO IT LIKE A FEE IN LIE FOR TREE AND STORM WATER. 
          THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          OKAY. 
          IN LIEU. 
          I, IT'S A GOOD THING BILL'S DOING THE TYPING. 
          NOT LIKE WATCHING EVERYBODY TYPING . 
          STEVEN, I THOUGHT AT ONE TIME WE'D HAD A CONVERSATION. 
          I THOUGHT WE HAD A CONVERSATION NOT LONG AGO ABOUT CHANGE IN WHATEVER ON THE, ON THE 20% AFFORDABLE REQUIREMENT WHERE THEY HAD TO DO THAT. 
          SO THAT'S ALREADY IN POLICY. 
          THEY HAVE TO DO IT IN PHASES WITH THE ACTUAL PHASE 
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CONSTRUCTION. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY CAN'T BUILD ALL THEIRS AND THEN NOT BUILD OURS OR BASICALLY. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED THIS FROM WAS IN SEA GRASS STATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE THEY HAD THOSE NINE LEFT AT THE END THAT THEY NEVER BUILT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO A FEE IN LEE OF LIEU OF WOULDN'T REALLY WORK IF WE'RE GOING TO UPHOLD THAT BECAUSE IF THEY BILL THE FIRST 20 FOR THEM, THEY GOTTA BUILD OUR ONE OR TWO OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS. 
          SO WHEN THEY COME TO THE END, BEFORE WE GIVE THE CEO ON THEIR LAST PHASE, OUR HAS TO BE DONE TOO. 
          GET THE OPTION IF I'M, IF I'M UNDER IT WOULD BE AN OPTION. 
          AND IT'S AGAIN, JUST LIKE IT WOULD ALLOW, THE WAY WE WOULD PROBABLY DRAFT IT IS IT WOULD HAVE SOMETHING COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL. 
          AND I'LL ADD TO YOU, SO THE, THE WAY, WAY OUR CURRENT FEE IN LIEU PROGRAMS WORK, IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC, YOU DON'T, JUST TO GET TO SAY, AND WHAT THE OPTIONS WE COULD, WOULD BRING FORWARD IS YOU DON'T JUST SAY LIKE, ALL RIGHT, IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE DOWN 10 TREES, I'M JUST GONNA PAY YOU THE FEE AND NOT PLANT THOSE TREES. 
          WE, WE DON'T STAFF, WE REVIEW IT AND WE SAY LIKE, YOU HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE TO PLANT THOSE TREES SO YOU'RE PLANTING THOSE TREES. 
          SO IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S OPTIONS. 
          DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN AUTOMATIC, BUT THE FEE IN LIEU OF IS AN OPTION THAT SOME COMMITTEE, SOME COMMUNITIES USE WHERE THEY JUST, FOR WHATEVER REASONS THEY CAN'T, UM, BUILD THOSE UNITS, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE OR KNOW, PLANT THOSE TREES OR BUILD THAT STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST AN OPTION THAT THEN THEY WOULD PAY FOR THE VALUE OF THAT. 
          SO THEN THE TOWN AT A LATER DATE WOULD, WOULD BE THAT. 
          SO THE OTHER KEY IS TO MAKE THE FEES YEAH. 
          UNAFFORDABLE. 
          NOT UNAFFORDABLE, BUT UN ATTRACTIVE. 
          YOU WANT TO MAKE IT SO THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          THEY, THE FEES NEED TO BE, IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, THEY NEED TO BE REALISTIC FEES. 
          CORRECT. 
          NOT HALF OF WHAT IT'S GONNA COST TO BUILD A UNIT. 
          CORRECT. 
          ALSO, WE DON'T WANT TO, IF WE'RE DOING IT, WE DON'T WANNA SHUT PEOPLE OUT. 
          'CAUSE THE GOAL AT THE END OF THE DAY COMES BACK TO WE WANT TO HAVE THIS DONE. 
          SO I KNOW WHEN WE WERE AT THE, UM, AT A HOUSING SYMPOSIUM LAST YEAR, A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS WHO WERE THERE THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE IN BUILDING AFFORD HOUSING STATED THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY DON'T IS 'CAUSE IT'S NOT PROFITABLE AND IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY, INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT, OTHER THINGS. 
          SO THOSE THAT DO IT AND WANNA DO IT WELL WE HAVE A GREAT EXAMPLE HERE WITH, UM, THE MAY RIVER, UH, PROJECT THAT I THINK DAVID BENNETT DID. 
          UM, IT'S BEING ABLE TO HAVE INCENTIVES. 
          SO IF THIS PERSON'S GIVEN A FEE IN LIEU OF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN DO IT THE WAY THAT WE WOULD WANT, THAT WOULD SOLVE A NEED. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE DON'T WANNA CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE THE OPPOSITE RESULT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE A HAPPY MEDIUM IN, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD IT. 
          LET'S GIVE AN AVENUE TO WHERE IT MAKES, UM, SENSE FOR YOU TO BUILD IT. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING A SIX FIGURE SALARY. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEED TO HAVE, UM, FEES IN PLACE FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT AT THAT LEVEL THAT MIGHT BE BRINGING HOME 40, $50,000 A YEAR AND STILL SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS QUALITY HOUSING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND AMERICAN COUNSEL, UH, THIS IS, WE'RE WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE DEEP HERE THE WAY YEAH, I KNOW. 
          I I I JUST WANT TO PULL YOU, I HAVE MY PARTNER HERE, BILL. 
          THEY'LL SAY, HEY, UH, REMIND ME THAT, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, EXCEPT FOR THE FIRST ITEM, THE, THE ITEMS, UM, THAT WE HAVE UP HERE REFLECT THOSE INITIATIVES THAT YOU WANT STAFF TO LOOK ON, LOOK AT, UM, INCLUDING THE TINY HOMES AS PART OF YOUR OVERALL, UH, STRATEGY AND APPROACH TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO EXCLUDING THE FIRST ITEM THAT BILL'S HIGHLIGHTED, I JUST WANT TO PULL YOU BACK AND WE HAVEN'T PUT ON THE, I I CAN TELL YOU TINY HOMES IS A WONDERFUL THING. 
          THEY JUST IMPLEMENTED THEM IN TUCSON AND I, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, IF YOU'VE GOT THE, THE AREA IN YOUR YARD, YOU CAN BUILD THEM IF PEOPLE RENT 'EM. 
          UM, YEAH, YEAH. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. 
          UM, SO WE HAVEN'T PUT A YEAR ON THAT YET, BUT WE WANT TO, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THIS COVERS ALL OF THE DISCUSSION THAT THE COUNCIL'S HAD AND THEN MAKE SURE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AREA, WE'LL ALSO PUT A YEAR, I'M NOT SURE ON THE TINY HOMES, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WILL YOU WANT STAFF TO IMPLEMENT THAT BACK TO THE COUNCIL? DOES THIS COVER THAT COVERS MINE? I MEAN, I THINK THE CRUX OF IT IS WE WANT TO, WE WANT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE FOR AS LITTLE MONEY AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND I'M GONNA KIND OF PUT STEVE IN IT ON YOU TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND IF YOU CAN RESTRUCTURE CURRENT, UM, TO MAKE IT WORK, IF YOU NEED, UM, A DEPARTMENT AT THAT TIME, I WANT YOU TO COME TO US AND TELL US THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT DONE. 
          OKAY, WELL DONE. 
          SO WHAT YEAR? HAVE TO GET IN THE WEEDS. 
          CAN YOU TELL YOU GOOD WITH THAT? YOU GOOD? OKAY. 
          BUT EVERYTHING CAN'T BE DONE IN THE FIRST FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS 27. 
          YOU GOT THE TEETER. 
          THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS. 
          SO, UH, DON'T TELL US THAT WE CAN TRY IT, WE CAN  THAT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR, BUT OUR CALENDAR 
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SAYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          WELL, THAT'S THE WHOLE, THAT'S THE WHOLE PRINCIPLE OF THE TEETER-TOTTER. 
          SO TINY HOME ISSUES AND ORDINANCE, ISN'T IT? YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. 
          NOPE, TO MY POINT, I THINK THAT COULD BE MOVED COMPLETION OR IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE MOVED UP QUICKER. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S, WE EXPLORE NOW AND, AND THEN HEATHER HAD BROUGHT UP THE FACT ABOUT THE 30 YEAR QUESTION. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE UP THERE OR, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DO THAT? SO THAT, THAT QUESTION THAT KIND OF CAME UP WHENEVER SOME OF THE COVENANTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS CAME IN AND THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, CAN WE ASK FOR LONGER THAN THE 30 YEAR MINIMUM. 
          30 YEAR IS WHAT'S IN OUR CODE AS IT IS NOW. 
          SO LONG AS THEY MEET THAT CHANGE, PLEASE, WHICH DATE? ALL OF THEM? 26. 
          26. 
          26. 
          26  SINCE IT'S GOING IN, A PLAN THAT STARTS IN JULY NEEDS TO BE 27, 27, 27, YOU CAN BUMP BALL 27. 
          UM, THE, UM, BUT SO THE QUESTION CAME UP AND UM, IS IF IT'S A PRO, IF IT'S, SAY IT'S ONE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE TO, OR WE'RE PROVIDING UTILITY TAX CREDITS OR NOT TAX, TAX CREDITS, UH, CAPACITY FEES OR WE'RE PARTNERING WITH, IF THE TOWN IS PROVIDING THEM SOMETHING TO BUILD THE HOUSING, DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT REQUIRING LONGER COVENANTS? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, LONG AS THEY MEET THE 30 YEAR MINIMUM, THAT IS IN OUR CODE, THEY QUALIFY. 
          I CAN I ANSWER THAT? AND, AND FRED WILL CORRECT ME. 
          UM, I THINK EVERYBODY SITTING HERE AT THE TABLE WOULD LIKE TO GET A LONGER DURATION. 
          IF IT'S POSSIBLE, YOU CAN HAVE A 30 OR 40 OR 50, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          BUT 30 YEARS WE'RE FINDING OUT IS HERE BEFORE WE BLANK. 
          SO IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? THAT'S VERY FAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, BUT I ALSO SAY IN THERE THAT I WOULDN'T MAKE A 30 YEAR COMMITMENT AGAIN IN MY LIFE. 
          , 30 YEARS IS A LONG TIME. 
          THE WORLD CHANGES A LOT IN 30 YEARS, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING DONE CURRENTLY WITH ASKING FOR THAT. 
          SO IF YOU TRY TO ASK FOR TWICE AS MUCH AS WE'RE ASKING FOR NOW, WE'LL GET LESS THAN WE'RE GETTING NOW, WHICH IS NOTHING. 
          HARDLY NOT, NOT NECESSARILY. 
          IT'S NOT WHEN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU MAKE A 30 YEAR COMMITMENT ON YOUR, UH, MORTGAGE, YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANY GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE. 
          YOU'RE DOING THAT OUTTA YOUR POCKET. 
          WELL, LET'S, LET'S DO THIS. 
          LET'S, LET'S EXPLORE WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING DURATION WISE. 
          STEVEN, HOW ABOUT THIS? I THINK A LOT OF, SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WILL FALL UNDER THE, THE STRATEGY AND WE, BUT, AND WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WE WORK THROUGH WORKSHOP, THAT, THAT KIND OF STUFF TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE FROM COUNCIL. 
          UM, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT WAS A QUESTION AND CONVERSATION THAT CAME UP, UH, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE ONE WITH BE MEMORIAL, UH, THAT PARTNERSHIP. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. 
          YEAH. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          SO AGAIN, IS, UH, HAS THIS COVERED WHAT BILL HAS, UM, UNDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING COVERED THE, UH, THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL GOING FORWARD? I THINK SO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE NEXT, UH, WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT FOCUS AREA, WHICH IS FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY. 
          WE'VE GOT, UM, WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY THREE PROJECTS UNDER THIS AREA. 
          AREA. 
          UH, THE FIRST ONE IS REVENUE DIVERSIFICATION. 
          UH, SECOND ONE IS OM, UH, LOOKING AT OUR LIFECYCLE COST, UH, FOR, UH, O AND M, UH, ON OUR FACILITIES. 
          AND THEN TO CONDUCT A, UH, USER FEE, UH, PERMITTING STUDY, UM, AND AUDIT TO ALIGN WITH THE COST RECOVERY, UM, BASIC FINANCE 1 0 1, UM, OF THINGS TO LOOK AT. 
          AND THIS IS, UH, WHAT THE STAFF CAME UP WITH YESTERDAY. 
          UH, WE'LL TURN IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR, UH, DISCUSSION ON ANY QUESTIONS ON THE WHY PART OF THIS, UM, THAT THE STAFF IS HERE TO ADDRESS? I THINK WE, HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE WE DID THE, UM, LIFE CYCLE OF ALL OUR ASSETS AND ALL THAT ONE, THAT COUPLE OF YEARS AGO? OR IS THAT WE JUST DID THE SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS LAST YEAR. 
          LAST YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S WHEN I WAS FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE A LIFECYCLE ANALYSIS OF ANYTHING EVER. 
          WE JUST DID THE FACILITIES ASSESSMENT. 
          UM, AND AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA LOOK INTO THE BROADER ASSETS, NOT JUST FACILITIES, AND THEN BUILD OUT THAT LIFE CYCLE AND WHAT IT MEANS FINANCIALLY, UM, LONG TERM AS FAR AS WHEN THOSE, UH, RESOURCES ARE NEED TO, TO UH, UH, REPAIR OR REPLACE THOSE ITEMS. SO IT'S, IT WAS JUST A FIRST STEP IN PROCESS. 
          [02:05:01]
SEE THE TOP. 
          SO HELP ME HERE. 
          SO THE LIFECYCLE PROCESS WILL HELP FACILITATE PROJECTIONS TO, 'CAUSE AGAIN, AS GROWTH SLOWS DOWN, AND MY, MY BELIEF AND UNDERSTANDING MAY BE CORRECT OR INCORRECT, IS YOU, YOU GO INTO MORE OF A MAINTAIN MODE. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF THIS, THE LIFE CYCLE WOULD HELP PREDICT FUTURE COSTS AS WE THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AS WE GROW OUT OF THE GROWTH CYCLE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND IT, AND IT'S AN ANALYSIS THAT GOES BEYOND YOUR TYPICAL FIVE YEAR CIP IT'S LOOKING OUT, YOU KNOW, 10, 20 YEARS, WHAT'S THAT TREND LOOK LIKE? OTHER QUESTIONS ON COUNCIL? WHAT THE, THE CONDUCT A USER FEE AND PERMIT FEE AUDIT? UM, THE USER FEE RELATES TO WHAT CHRIS? WELL, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE RELATED TO, UM, UH, FEES SPECIFIC TO JUST CERTAIN SERVICES. 
          IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE FACILITIES FEES THAT WE JUST ASSESSED. 
          IT COULD BE, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, PERMITTING FEES FOR DIFFERENT, UH, ISSUES, RENOVATIONS, POOLS, ET CETERA. 
          AND THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS ANYWAYS, BUT IT'S REALLY TAKEN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AND TYING IN WITH A, A, ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE'LL GET TO EVENTUALLY ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR BUILD OUT PROJECTIONS. 
          AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO OUR FEE STRUCTURE AS WE MOVE FROM A, UH, A NEW BUILD, UH, HEAVY PERMIT REVENUE TO A RENOVATION HEAVY. 
          SO AS OUR, AS OUR SERVICES SWITCH FROM, UM, MANAGING NEW BUILDS TO RENOVATIONS AND MAINTAINING, UM, DOES OUR FEE STRUCTURE NEED TO ADJUST TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT? SO, SAMARI, THANK YOU SAMIR. 
          COUNCIL GOING. 
          I JUST WANT, STARTING OFF, UM, WE'LL START ON THE FIRST ONE. 
          THE REVENUE, UH, DIVERS DIVERSIFICATION STUDY ARE, IS THAT A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNCIL? I SEE THUMBS UP. 
          UH, O AND M COST THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF LIFECYCLE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, CONDUCT A USER FEE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH THESE, THE PROJECTS IN THIS AREA. 
          EMILY LEE, ARE Y'ALL OKAY WITH THIS? YES. 
          WELL, WE CAN'T MULTITASK OVER THERE. 
          , I DIDN'T ASK YOU. 
          YOU GET MAD. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOOD. 
          YOU OKAY? I THINK WE'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT, THE NEXT FOCUS AREA, I THINK IS MAY. 
          YES. 
          THE MAY RIVER, UH, AND WATERSHED. 
          AND WE'LL START OFF INDIVIDUAL WITH EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATION FOR COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE ASSESSMENT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? COUNCIL, THAT'S A PROJECT THE STAFF WOULD HONOR. 
          THAT'S ALL THE STUDIES WE'RE DOING FOR CROOKED COVE ROSE. 
          DO, UH, IS IT HAYWARD THAT WE'VE DONE OR WE COMPLETED HAYWARD. 
          HAYWARD, YES, SIR. 
          HAYWARD. 
          YEAH, KIRK GERARD. 
          AND THEN UPCOMING NEXT WOULD BE ROSE. 
          DO. 
          SO THOSE, THOSE DRAINAGE STUDIES THAT WE'RE DOING WOULD JUST BE WHAT COMES OUT OF THOSE, WHAT COMES OUT OF THE MODELING, MODELING EFFORTS OF THE ASSET INVENTORY AND FUNCTIONALITY OF THOSE SAID STORMWATER ASSETS, WHO THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IS, WHETHER THAT'S DOT, BEAUFORT COUNTY, PRIVATELY OWNED OR TOWN OF BLUFFTON. 
          WE'VE SHARED THAT, SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH THOSE ASSET OWNERS FOR HAYWARD COVE. 
          AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO OBVIOUSLY WITH GERARD AND CROOKED AS THOSE FINISH UP. 
          AND THAT'S FOR REQUIRED MAINTENANCE. 
          AND THEN ALSO UNDER FUTURE MODELING CONDITIONS FOR SEA LEVEL RISE AND DIFFERENT WEATHER EVENTS THAT ARE MORE FLUVIAL RAIN BOMBS. 
          WHAT WILL WE NEED IN WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WE WILL NEED TO SEE IN IMPROVEMENTS FOR DRAINAGE AND A RESILIENCE CAPACITY OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS? OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MAYOR COUNCIL? OKAY. 
          THE NEXT YES. 
          YES. 
          SORRY. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          SORRY. 
          SORRY FOR CLARITY FOR, FOR MYSELF. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS FALLS UNDER RESILIENCY OR NOT, AND I'M ONLY ONE VOICE, UH, AND I PUT THIS IN THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HAD SOLICITED FROM US ON THE SURVEY. 
          UM, I'M STILL OF THE MINDSET THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE FLOODING ISSUES AND PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY, UH, THE FARM I KEEP BRINGING UP TWICE. 
          IT'S FLOODED TERRIBLY. 
          AND AT SOME POINT, LIKE HILTON HEAD, I'M NOT SAYING TODAY OR TOMORROW OR NEXT YEAR, AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A MORE AGGRESSIVE ROLE IN WHAT WE DO. 
          STORM SYSTEM WIDE BEING WHETHER WE STEP IN, UH, YOU KNOW, HILTON HEAD TOOK OVER THE STORM SYSTEMS 'CAUSE THEY HAD FLOODING YEARS AGO, SIR. 
          I'M AWARE. 
          RIGHT? THEY TOOK THAT OVER TO FIX IT FOR MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO I DON'T SAY WE HAVE TO DO EVERYBODY, I JUST THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER METHOD OF HELPING THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO HELP THEIR SELVES WITH THE FLOODING DILEMMA. 
          AND 
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THEN THE LAST PART OF THIS FOR ME, AND I KNOW STEVEN'S READY TO ANSWER THIS BOTH. 
          UM, SO THE STUDIES THAT YOU HAVE PUT FORTH SO FAR REGARDING IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, UM, AND STAFF'S BEEN DOING THAT THROUGH WAY PACK AND BEEN AGGRESSIVE ABOUT IT, BUT IT COMES WITH A HEFTY PRICE TAG TO IMPLEMENT IT. 
          AND SO I THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO SEE MORE FEEDBACK FROM STAFF IN A, A FORMAL PRESENTATION TO EXPLAIN THE DOLLAR VALUE AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. 
          AND, AND THEN SOME MODE OF GUARANTEE THAT IF WE SPEND 30, 40, $50 MILLION, ARE WE COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE GONNA GET A BANG FOR OUR BUCK? UM, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT NEEDED, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE DEFINITELY MORE DISCUSSION ON TOPICS THAT BIG. 
          WELL, THAT STUDY IS NOT EVEN COMPLETE. 
          IT'S UNDERWAY. 
          NO, NOT NOT JUST THE ONE, THE STONY CREEK, THE WHOLE YEAH. 
          BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          THE IMPERIAL SURFACE. 
          SO TO GO TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, THAT WILL BE, I THINK WE'RE YOUR EARLY ON THAT QUESTION BECAUSE AS WE'RE DOING THE STUDIES TO DETERMINE WHAT IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE AS THOSE COME OUT AND THE ROSE TWO STUDY IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME, WHEN THOSE START COMING OUT AND WE START TRYING TO WORK, LIKE KIM SAID, WHETHER IT'S WITH THE, THE POAS, THE COUNTY, THE STATE, AND ALL THOSE THINGS, THAT'S WHEN THE QUESTION MAY COME UP. 
          AND THEY, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM IN ROAD DO ROSE DEW, YOU HAVE 3, 4, 5 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ALL TIED TOGETHER IN THEIR DRAINAGE BASIN THAT ALL TIE TOGETHER AND ULTIMATELY COME OUT IN ONE SPOT. 
          THAT'S A BIGGER QUESTION THAT MAY COME TO COUNCIL 3, 4, 5 YEARS DOWN THE LINE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE CAN, THAT, THAT MAY BE MORE OF A NEXT STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IN TRACK AS WE FINISH SOME OF THESE STUDIES. 
          IF WE SEE DOT NOT TAKING ACTION, WE SEE PRIVATE ENTITIES NOT TAKING ACTION AS THEN IT MAY COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY, WHAT NOW? UM, AND THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S A, A QUESTION THAT WILL COME UP, NOT IN THIS PLAN, BUT IN FUTURE PLANS FOR THE, UM, IMPERVIOUS SERVICE, UM, PROJECTS. 
          WE DO NOT HAVE A PARTNER FOR ANY OF THOSE RIGHT NOW. 
          ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY AN ITEM FOR THAT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL. 
          WE AREN'T GONNA GO DO A PROJECT LIKE THAT WITHOUT COUNSEL APPROVING US TO DO SO. 
          AGAIN, 'CAUSE OF THE COST, THE IMPACT AND ALL OF THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL. 
          BUT AS OF NOW, THERE ARE NO IMPERVIOUS SURFACE PROJECTS IN THIS CAPITAL PROGRAM HERE. 
          EVERYBODY HAS AGREED OR PARTNER WITH US OR IS INTERESTED AT THIS POINT IN TIME ON DOING ANY, IT IS A WAY PACK ITEM THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AS SOMETHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE. 
          BUT THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE TO BRING TO COUNCIL THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE. 
          ONCE THERE IS ANYTHING, AS ALWAYS, WE WOULD BRING IT TO YOU BECAUSE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A $5 MILLION PARTNERSHIP, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT'S A, A PRIORITY FOR THE TOWN AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          SO ON THE DRAINAGE ASSESSMENT, I AM GENERALLY OKAY WITH THAT. 
          THE NEXT PROJECT IS EVALUATING EXISTING LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? CAN I EXPAND ON THAT JUST BRIEFLY? MM-HMM . 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW, SO WHAT THAT IS, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT ALREADY. 
          THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN TIED IN THE SO LOCO STANDARDS AND THE MANUAL AND OTHER ORDINANCES THAT POLICIES THAT TOWN COUNCIL'S APPROVED. 
          WHAT THAT IS EXPANDING ON IS LOOKING AT ALL THOSE PROGRAMS. AND IN THE UDO, THERE'S ACTUALLY, THERE'S THE AFFORDABILITY INCENTIVES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          THERE'S ALSO INCENTIVES FOR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY. 
          NO ONE HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THOSE. 
          SO, UM, AFTER OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH STAFF, THE IDEA IS WELL MAYBE WE NEED TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE ALL OF THESE, UM, REGULATIONS IN, YOU KNOW, THE SO LOCAL MANUAL, THE UDO, AND SEE IF THEY ALIGN OR WHAT IF WE MAY NEED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT THE IDEA IS ULTIMATELY IF WE HAVE A POLICY AND NOBODY EVER USES IT, IS IT BEING, IS IT A REAL IT IF THE TREE FALLS IN THE WOODS AND NOBODY HEARS, AS Y'ALL KNOW, AND AS YOU HEARD, AS WE WENT THROUGH THE WETLANDS, UH, BUFFER, EVERYBODY WANTS TO DEVELOP LAST SQUARE FOOT OF THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY CAN. 
          SO NOT A SINGLE PERSON HAS SAID, I'M WILLING TO DEVELOP LESS TO BE INCENTIVIZED. 
          RIGHT? SO THE GOAL IS DO WE NEED TO REVIEW THAT? THE INCENTIVES NEED TO BE HIGHER. 
          DO WE NEED TO MARKET IT BETTER? SO YEAH. 
          OR DO WE JUST NEED TO DELETE IT? SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHERE THAT CAME FROM. 
          THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          SO SEEMS LIKE OKAY WITH THAT, UH, THE NEXT ONE IS EVALUATING, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW, UM, OF, UH, SEWER CONNECTION ORDINANCE ENFORCEMENT. 
          THAT'S A BIG ONE. 
          EXPLAIN, YES. 
          EXPLAIN . 
          I SEE. 
          YES. 
          SO WE HAVE DONE, 
          [02:15:01]
WE ARE, AS WE FINISH ALL, UM, OLD TOWN PHASE FOUR, FIVE AND SIX SEWER, THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL SEWER PROJECTS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          WE ARE PARTNERING WITH B-J-W-S-A ON STONY CREEK, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION, UH, WITH WORK THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO DOWN IN THE AJOY AREA. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SEWER CONNECTION, LIKE SEWER PROJECTS SUBJECT TO SEWER CONVERSION PROJECTS REMAINING. 
          UM, WE HAVE A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT IF SEWER IS WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE, THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CONNECT TO IT WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A SEWER CONNECTION, UH, GRANT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS. 
          WE THREW IT ON HERE TO SEE WHAT COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS ON WHETHER WE CONTINUE JUST WITH THE SEWER GRANT CONNECTION, UH, GRANT PO, UH, PROGRAM, OR WHETHER YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT, START TO IMPLEMENT THE CONNECTION POLICY THAT COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE PEOPLE TO CONNECT WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD. 
          AN ORDINANCE OR A LAW WITH NO ENFORCEMENT IS WORTHLESS. 
          SO WE'VE ALL AGREED BEFORE TO DO THIS, AND I CAN'T WAIT. 
          THE DAY THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY IN THIS TOWN ON SANITARY SEWER, IT'S BEEN A GOAL OF MINE FOR 20 YEARS AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. 
          SO I'M NOT READY TO GIVE UP YET OR ANYTIME. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, THE COMPARABILITY OF THE GRANT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAD WITH THE NEW RATE THAT BEEF FOR JASPER HAS. 
          LIKE, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WE ALREADY HAD ISSUES IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY FOR THOSE WHO COULD NOT GET INTO THAT. 
          UM, I THINK IT WAS A $5,000 TAP FEE AND IT'S GONE UP DRASTICALLY. 
          UM, I DO HAVE SOME TREPIDATION ON THAT IN TERMS OF THAT MAY BE A FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THOSE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO, UM, ACCESS HOUSING HEARING. 
          SO THAT'S, TO GO ALONG WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          THE REASON IT SAYS EVALUATE IS BECAUSE WE STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH AND DETERMINE WHO ALL, AND IT'LL BE, HAVE TO REACH OUT TO B-J-W-S-A FOR SOME HELP ON THAT IS WHO'S STILL REMAINING TO CONNECT WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE ON AVERAGE TO CONNECT WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR GRANT PROGRAM, WHAT THE FISCAL IMPACT WOULD BE, POTENTIALLY TO THOSE PEOPLE. 
          AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO COUNSEL TO DETERMINE SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY IT SAYS EVALUATE AND NOT IMPLEMENT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE, WE JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE, THE, THE, IF COUNSEL WANTS TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT DIRECTION, THEN WE'LL DO THE EVALUATION AND BRING IT TO COUNSEL SO YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE OVERALL IMPACT OF THAT DECISION. 
          OTHER QUESTION, COUNCIL IS ALWAYS TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, THE, THE COUNCILS THAT I'VE SAT WITH HAVE ALL AGREED THAT WE WANT TO BE, UM, SEPTIC TANK FREE. 
          AND SO YES. 
          OKAY. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          SOUNDS LIKE A YES ON THAT ONE. 
          UH, LAST ONE IS IMPLEMENTATION OF RESILIENCY PLAN. 
          WE JUST DID THAT, DIDN'T WE, DIDN'T WE? WE JUST DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          WE'RE DOING THE PLAN NOW. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. 
          SO RIGHT NOW, BETH HAS BEEN LEADING RESILIENCY ASSESSMENT WORK WITH THE SHY INSTITUTE OUT OF FURMAN UNIVERSITY, AS WELL AS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SEA GRANT CONSORTIUM AND COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON. 
          AND OUT OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS ARE A NUMBER OF RESILIENCY ELEMENTS AND POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND SO THOSE FINAL REPORTS ARE COMING IN. 
          AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN US IMPLEMENTING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN WE WOULD BRING THEM FORWARD TO YOU AS PART OF THE NEXT YEAR FISCAL PLAN AND WORK PLAN. 
          WELL, HOW COULD WE SAY, HOW COULD WE SAY IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS YET? WELL, DO YOU WANT WE DON'T NEED TO. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN WAIT. 
          NO, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO LEARN WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, SO ULTIMATELY YOU'RE JUST SAYING ONCE THE PLAN'S ADOPTED, YOU'RE, YOU WANNA SEE US IMPLEMENT IT. 
          AMEN. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WELL, NO, I I WE WANT ADOPT IT. 
          WE WANNA SEE IT. 
          WE WANNA SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TELLING YOU TO IMPLEMENT. 
          YEAH, CORRECT. 
          YOU WILL. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHY, REMEMBER RIGHT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUNE OF 27. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST, WE'RE A YEAR AND THREE QUARTERS AWAY BEFORE THAT, THAT HAPPENS. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'RE PLANNING 30 MONTHS OUT FROM NOW. 
          YES. 
          AND I JUST WANNA ADD, BUT IF WE DON'T AGREE WITH IT, THEN WE MIGHT NOT BE CORRECT. 
          EXACTLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          REALLY WHAT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          SORRY. 
          REALLY WHAT THIS IS, IS KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE COMP NOT KIND OF LIKE, LIKE THE COMP PLAN OR THE BUCK ISLAND SIMPSONVILLE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. 
          SO WHEN STAFF AFTER THIS RESILIENCY PLAN IS DONE AND COMPLETE, CERTAINLY YOU ALL WILL ALL SEE IT AND WE'LL GO THROUGH IT. 
          BUT THEN AFTER THAT POINT, IF THE IMPLEMENTATION, UM, IS IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BETH AND HER STAFF WOULD WORK ON IMPLEMENTING IT AND BRINGING THAT FORWARD TO YOU. 
          SO WHAT WE DON'T WANNA DO, AGAIN, THIS IS OUR TWO YEAR WORK PLAN, BETH, TO BE WORKING ON WHAT IS THE IMPLEMENTATION 
          [02:20:01]
OF, YOU KNOW, ITEM NUMBER ONE MEAN, AND THEY COME TO YOU AND YOU ALL ARE LIKE, WHY ARE IN THE WORLD? ARE YOU WORKING ON IT? SO CERTAINLY YOU WOULD ALL REVIEW ALL OF THAT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DO IT. 
          . 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          JUST FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION, YOU, YOU STILL HAVE A ROLE, COUNSEL? YES. 
           ALWAYS. 
           ALWAYS STILL HAVE A ROLE. 
          YES. 
          I I JUST DON'T LIKE TO APPROVE ANY CHECK UNTIL I SEE WHAT NO, YOU'RE NOT. 
          YES SIR. 
          IT'S KEEPING US IN OUR LANE. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT A BLANK CHECK. 
          IT'S LIKE, SORRY, I LEARNED NO BLANK CHECKS FROM ME. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANYTHING OKAY WITH THIS AREA? I THINK SO. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT AREA. 
          NEXT AREA IS, UM, TOWN ORGANIZATION, I THINK. 
          AND WE'VE GOT, UM, WE'LL START OFF WITH THE FIRST PROJECT HERE IS AN EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK UPDATE. 
          IT'S JUST A, WE NEED TO UPDATE THE HANDBOOK QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL. 
          UH, NEXT ONE IS DEVELOP A CAREER PATH AND SUCCESSION ROADMAP FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS. 
          UH, NEXT ONE IS, UM, LAUNCH A BLUFF AND TALENT PIPELINE INTERNSHIP FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM, WHICH I LOVE FELLOWSHIPS. 
          THAT'S HOW WE GOT OUR STUDENTS HIRED IN TUCSON FROM THE UNIVERSITY. 
          SO, UM, FORM A, AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE, FORM A RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION COMMITTEE. 
          YOU'VE GOT GREAT EMPLOYEES HERE. 
          WE WANT TO KEEP 'EM, HOW DO WE KEEP 'EM? ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? NEXT ONE IS EVALUATE THE INFORMATION, UH, INCLUDED IN REPORTS PROVI. 
          THIS IS IMPORTANT, UM, TO TOWN COUNCIL, UH, INCLUDING COUNCIL IN THE DETERMINATION. 
          AND, UM, BILL, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT INFORMATION? WHAT, YEAH. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE. 
          I, SO WE HAD, UM, A GREAT DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, STAFF REPORTS AND THE NUMBER OF, THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION YOU GET AS AN ELECTED BODY AND AS AN ELECTED INDIVIDUAL. 
          AND, UM, I RELAYED YESTERDAY, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER WORK THAT I DO AS A MILITARY CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN WORKING WITH COMMAND STAFFS AND HEADQUARTERS. 
          SO I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WITH A TWO STAR GENERAL ON, ON HIS HEADQUARTERS. 
          AND I SAID, SIR, YOU, YOU HAVE 10,000 PEOPLE WORKING FOR YOU. 
          YOUR STAFF IS 220 PEOPLE. 
          HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU KEEPING IT ALL TOGETHER? LIKE, HOW DO YOU MANAGE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION? AND HE RELAYED TO ME THAT HE HAS ASKED HIS STAFF TO GIVE HIM, TO GIVE HIM THE KNOWLEDGE VERSUS THE INFORMATION. 
          HE SAID, I GET, I GET PILES OF INFORMATION, BUT IN ORDER TO SYNTHESIZE THAT, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS THE REAL MEANING BEHIND IT. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, DON'T TELL ME THAT WE'RE, WE'VE ONLY GOT 20 LUG NUTS LEFT IN THE MOTOR POOL THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          HE SAID, BUT IF YOU TELL ME THAT IF WE LOSE ONE MORE HUMVEE, WE'RE WE'RE DONE. 
          I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          HE SAID, SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TELLING ME 20 LUG NUTS VERSUS I'M, I'M OUT OF BUSINESS FOR, FOR THE REST OF IT. 
          AND FOR ME, THAT RANG A BELL ON THE FINANCIAL REPORTING THAT WE DO FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          WE, EVERY YEAR YOU GET, OR SEE, I ASSUME THE ANNUAL FINANCIAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, NOW KNOWN AS THE AFER USED TO BE THE CER. 
          AND IT'S A 300 PLUS PAGE DOCUMENT FILLED WITH FINANCIAL INFORMATION, EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE IF YOU READ ALL 300 PAGES. 
          BUT FOR A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR FOR AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 10 PAGES IN IT THAT ARE REALLY MEANINGFUL. 
          YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT THOSE 10 PAGES ARE. 
          YOU DON'T WANNA JUST BE GIVEN A BOOK OF 300. 
          SO WE USE THAT KIND OF PHILOSOPHY OF INFORMATION VERSUS KNOWLEDGE AND HOW MUCH INFORMATION ARE YOU GETTING AND ARE YOU ACTUALLY ABLE TO DIGEST AND, AND OR USING ON A MONTHLY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY OR ANNUAL BASIS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          UM, AND THEN STAFF LOOKED UP, GO AHEAD. 
          SO, SO IN YOUR OCTOBER PACKET, THE, THE PACKET WAS 418 PAGES LONG, OF WHICH 152 OF IT WAS STAFF REPORTS. 
          IT WAS A SMALL ONE THAT WAS 34% OF YOUR PACKET WAS THE MONTHLY STAFF REPORTS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND SHARE WITH YOU. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS CONVERSATION CAME FROM, IS, ARE YOU GETTING MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU ACTUALLY NEED? ARE YOU GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED OR THAT YOU WANT, BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IN THERE THINGS 
          [02:25:01]
LIKE, IF WE CANCEL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE TODAY BECAUSE YOU'RE IN HERE, THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE MONTHLY REPORT, IS THAT PERTINENT INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL NEEDS? AND THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME THAT GOES INTO PREPARING THIS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          IS IT, IS IT JUSTIFIED FOR THE AMOUNT OF INPUT AND RESULT OR THE INFORMATION YOU'RE ACTUALLY GATHERING OUT OF IT? TAKE THAT 430 PAGES AND YOU COMPARE IT TO THE EMAIL YOU GET FROM STEVEN EVERY FRIDAY, WHICH IS KIND OF SHORT, TIGHT AND CONCISE. 
          I THINK THEY'RE ASKING, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO START MOVING TOWARDS STEVEN'S SUMMARY OR YOU WANT TO KEEP GETTING THE BULK. 
          AND THE BOTTOM LINE OF IT IS WE'RE NOT GONNA DECIDE TODAY. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA DECIDE TOMORROW. 
          BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT STAFF TO DECIDE HOW MUCH AND WHAT YOU WANT. 
          SO THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT SAYS STAFF AND COUNSEL WILL WORK TOGETHER TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH OF THEY WANNA ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT AND HOW CAN WE PROVIDE IT? YEAH, PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ 400 PAGES EVERY WEEK. 
          I GOTTA, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE, THE MAJOR THINGS, YOU KNOW, THE TOPICS MAYBE OF ANYTHING, BUT IF I NEED TO KNOW OR DIG INTO IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT INFORMATION'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THERE THAT I COULD CALL AND REQUEST, CORRECT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO MORE OF A SUMMARY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AVAIL, STILL HAVING THE AVAILABILITY OF ALL THE BACKGROUNDS, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE FINE. 
          THIS IS A STAFF EFFICIENCY KIND OF QUESTION. 
          SO IT'S AN INITIATIVE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BRING ME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, OKAY, LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. 
          I KNOW THAT I, I GO THROUGH IT. 
          I KNOW THAT EMILY LIKES TO READ EVERYTHING. 
          SO I, I LIKE SHORT AND SWEET . 
          UM, LET ME SAY THIS, I THINK IT'S A GRAND IDEA. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE STAFF REPORTS ARE AS GOOD AS YOU CAN GET. 
          I MEAN, ALL OF THE STAFF PRESENT THAT AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXCELLENT THE WAY THEY'RE WRITTEN. 
          I IS KEVIN IN HERE? I THINK THEY ALL LEARN FROM KEVIN, BUT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD REPORTS. 
          UM, WHEN YOU GET INTO THE MEAT OF IT AND YOU'RE SEEING ALL OF THE PERMITS THAT WENT OVER THE YEARS AND STUFF THAT WENT BACK, SOME OF THE INFORMATION IN THERE FROM CONSULTANTS FROM 10 YEARS AGO, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED ALL OF THAT. 
          I THINK THAT MAYBE WHAT STAFF MIGHT CONSIDER DOING IS INSTEAD OF JUST GO CARTE BLANCHE GOING WILD, MAYBE JUST DO AN ASSESSMENT AND FIGURE OUT, LET'S START HERE AND THROW THESE OUT AND THEN SEE WHERE WE END UP. 
          AND, AND, AND PART OF IT AND WHY WE, IT SAYS INCLUDE COUNSEL ON THE DETERMINATION IS WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE INCLUDING WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SAY, OKAY, WELL WE'RE GONNA START TRIMMING AND THEN WE GET A CALL FROM COUNCILMAN HAMILTON AND HE'S LIKE, WHY ISN'T THIS IN THE REPORT? THIS IS WHAT I LOOK FOR EVERY MONTH. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE IF IT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT WE, WE DON'T GET RID OF IT. 
          THE OTHER THING WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT IS IT'S VERY GOOD PUBLIC INFORMATION FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE TOWN FOR THAT MONTH IS, DO WE MAKE SURE WE STILL COMPILE AND SHARE THAT IN A FORM SO THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF IT? 'CAUSE I KNOW I HEAR A LOT EVERY MONTH WHEN WE GET INTO CONSENT AGENDA, Y'ALL WILL SAY, HEY, THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN HERE. 
          WE ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO GO AND READ IT. 
          WE STILL WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING WHAT YOU NEED CONCISELY TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THE TOWN THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW. 
          SO I'LL BE QUIET. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          I THINK IT'S A CATCH 22 TO THIS. 
          IT'S, IT'S TIMES WHEN YOU NEED IT. 
          IT'S TIMES WHEN YOU MAY NOT, RIGHT? SO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT YOU GUYS EVALUATE RIGHT NOW AND THEN, UM, AND WHEN WE THINK THAT YOU'RE CHEATING US, WE'LL COME BACK , . 
          WELL, AND THAT'S WHY IT, IT'S IN THERE IS EVALUATE. 
          'CAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WITHOUT Y'ALL'S INPUT. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          UM, THE LAST, UM, SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE OKAY ON THAT ONE. 
          THE LAST, UH, PROJECT UNDER, UH, TOWN ORGANIZATION IS IMPLEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR AI POLICY, UH, COMMITTEE FOR FUTURE AND CURRENT IMPACT. 
          SO, UM, IT'S JUST THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          YOU OKAY WITH THAT ONE? OKAY. 
          SO THE NEXT AREA IS INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS HERE. 
          UH, LOVE THIS ONE. 
          ROAD RESURFACING AND MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE WITH COST ESTIMATES, PRETTY BASIC, WHICH THEY 
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DID IN MY HOMETOWN. 
          UH, PROMOTE LONG RANGE, UH, TRANSPORTATION PLANS, UH, WITH REGIONAL AND STATE PARTNERS. 
          AND THIS, UH, THIS NEXT ONE, UM, THE THIRD ONE IS, IS REALLY, UM, INNOVATIVE. 
          A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF CITIES ARE MOVING AWAY FROM THESE. 
          UM, I, I CAN'T . 
          UM, GOOD THING THERE'S NO PRESS HERE FROM TUCSON. 
          UM, WE HAVE BUSES RUNNING IN OUR CITY THAT ARE EMPTY, RIGHT? AND IT'S EXPENSIVE. 
          $60 MILLION A YEAR. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S A CITY OF A 500, 600,000 PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE EMPTY. 
          UM, WHAT THIS MICRO TRANSIT IS, IS TO SCALE THE, THE TRANSIT SOMETIMES USING, UH, UBER OR LYFT AS A PARTNER TO MORE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY, THE, THE, THE NEEDS OF THE FOLKS THAT NEED THAT LEVEL OF TRANSPORTATION AND TO MAKE IT MORE FLEXIBLE. 
          SO, UM, WHAT THE STAFF IS ASKING FOR HERE IS TO, RATHER THAN GOING TO A TRADITIONAL TRANSIT SYSTEM TO AT LEAST EXPLORE THIS MICRO TRANSIT SYSTEM, UH, AND PROVIDE A PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL, WHICH I CAN TELL YOU COMMUNITIES ARE MOVING MORE AND MORE ENLIGHTENED COMMUNITIES ARE MOVING AWAY FROM TRADITIONAL TRANSIT TO THIS, THIS MICRO TRANSIT. 
          SO, UM, I'M SURE YOU MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT OR SOME OF THE OTHERS. 
          BUT, UH, TURNING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL, UH, IN THIS AREA OF INFRASTRUCTURE, I AGREE WITH, WITH, UM, ALL THE FOCUSES THERE. 
          UM, IT'D BE NICE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE IS ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT IT'D BE NICE TO ADD SOMETHING, UM, THAT ADDRESSES LIKE OUR CURRENT, UM, ROAD, MAYBE IMPEDIMENTS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IMPACTING TRAFFIC. 
          LIKE IF WE COULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF LIKE, STUDY OR IDENTIFICATION OF THAT. 
          AND WHEN I SAY THAT I'M AN EXAMPLE FOR INSTANCE IS LIKE WE KNOW AROUND OUR TRAFFIC CIRCLE. 
          UM, WHEN YOU GET UP TO, UM, WHEN YOU'RE ON 46, WE KNOW THAT LIKE, THAT RIGHT NOW IS AN AREA IN TERMS OF IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY, IT PREVENT, IT PRESENTS, UM, A HUGE PROBLEM IN TERMS OF ACCESSIBILITY THAT BECOMES NON-EXISTENT WITH, WITH AN ACCIDENT. 
          UM, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT ROAD AND IT'S NOT A ROAD THAT WE OWN, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN TO WHERE WE CAN, UM, SET LIKE SOME TYPE OF, OF MEETING OR PLAN, UM, WITH URGENCY WITH OUR, THOSE STAKEHOLDERS WHO DO OWN THOSE AREAS TO KIND OF HELP ALLEVIATE PRESSURE OFF OF US. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS THAT RESIDENTS ARE HAVING IS JUST THE, UM, THE LACK OF ACCESSIBILITY ON THOSE ROADS THAT WE DON'T REALLY OWN, THAT WE CAN GO AND MAKE A DECISION TODAY ABOUT. 
          BUT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING ADDRESSED. 
          UM, BECAUSE FOR LIKE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UM, NO ONE'S ABLE TO REALLY MANEUVER DOWN THOSE ROADWAYS AND IT'S A GRAVE PROBLEM FOR US. 
          SO NOW WE HOW TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT. 
          SO IT KIND OF, IT KIND OF FALLS UNDERNEATH THE PROMOTE TRANSPORTATION PLANS WITH REGIONAL STATE PARTNERS. 
          BUT MAYBE INSTEAD OF JUST PROMOTE IT'S, PROMOTE AND AND ADVOCATE, IT HAS TO BE YEAH, MORE THAN THAT. 
          BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ON THE, THE WAVELENGTH OF WANTING TO PROMOTE, BUT IF OUR PARTNERS AREN'T MOVING PROMOTION'S REALLY NOT, UM, ADDRESSING THE ISSUE. 
          AND IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO HAVE A LARGE SCALE EMERGENCY OR EVACUATION OR WHATEVER, AS OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN, IT'S JUST CAUSED EVEN MORE CONGESTION AND BOTTLENECK ACTIVITY. 
          BUT IT BECOMES A SAFETY CONCERN IF WE DON'T FIND A, A STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THOSE. 
          AND I THINK THAT GOES ALONG WITH, UM, SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIPS OR STUFF WE'VE DONE WITH THE, LIKE WHERE WE PARTNERED WITH THE COUNTY AND LATS TO DO THE STUDY FOR BUCK WALTER OR BLUFFTON PARKWAY FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          BUT AS COUNCILMAN WOOD WILL SAY, IT'S COUNTY'S ROAD. 
          IT'S A HUN WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW THE NUMBERS BETTER THAN I DO. 
          IT'S 60, $90 MILLION. 
          NO, IT'S, LET ME, LET ME BACK UP TO WHAT SHE'S SAYING. 
          I THINK SHE'S GOT A COUPLE OF GOOD POINTS. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT WOULD PERTAIN TO THE TRANSPORTATION PENNY REFERENDUM, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT'S GETTING TO AS WELL. 
          AND I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE, WELL, I MEAN EVEN WHEN I WORKED MY VEHICLES COULDN'T GET DOWN THE ROAD WITH OUTAGES. 
          POLICE CAN'T GET DOWN THE ROAD TO HER POINT. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE SURE WE BRING THIS UP WITH OUR, OUR, OUR PARTNERS, THE COUNTY, UH, WHO WAS, IF THEY GO FORWARD WITH THIS, WE DO NEED A MEANS TO GET EMERGENCY VEHICLES UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. 
          THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, AND I SHARE THIS WITH THE PUBLIC, UM, UH, WE HAVE A REAL CONUNDRUM ON TRANSPORTATION. 
          WE DON'T 
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OWN THE ROADS AND MOST OF THE PRIMARY ROADS ARE STATE. 
          BUT THE OTHER PART OF IT IS THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON, AND THE MAYOR'S WORKING ON TO THE POINT ABOUT, UH, REGIONAL STATE. 
          WE ARE, UH, A MEETING'S BEING SET UP WITH, UH, STEVEN AND THE LEGISLATORS. 
          'CAUSE WE HAVE A REAL PROBLEM HERE. 
          THE, THE PROBLEM IS EVEN IF YOU GET THE REFERENDUM PASSED, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY, WHICH THE STUDY JUST CAME OUT FROM THAT, FROM THE COUNTY. 
          AND THAT'S 200 AND HEATHER, DID YOU EVER CHECK MY MATH ON THAT? NO. 
          IT WAS LIKE 210 TO $280 MILLION FIX. 
          SO THERE'S NO FUNDING AT ALL FOR ANYTHING TO DO WITH BLUFFTON PARKWAY AT THIS TIME. 
          IT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM THE TRANSPORTATION PENNY REFERENDUM. 
          SO WE ARE ADVOCATING ALREADY, WE'RE, WE'RE BEATING THE DRUM ON THAT TOPIC TRYING AND WE MET WITH OUR COUNTY LEADERSHIP. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO BEAT THAT DRUM. 
          IT'S GONNA BE YEARS IN THE MAKING TO DO SOMETHING. 
          AND AND THE LAST PART TO, TO WHAT MS. FRAZIER WAS SAYING TOO, IS WE KNOW THAT WHEN THERE'S AN ACCIDENT ON 2 78, WE HAVE TOTAL GRIDLOCK IN BLUFFTON. 
          THEY GET OFF, THEY TRY TO GET OFF THE HIGHWAY AND THEY GO TO BLUFFTON AND IT SHUTS US DOWN. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THIS. 
          DAN AND BRIDGET HAS COVERED THE COVERED, UM, MOST OF, UM, THE, THE ISSUES AND, AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS. 
          SO, UM, THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT I DO SEE IS THAT WE DON'T CONTROL OF ANY OF IT. 
          SO, OKAY, ONE THING, UM, I, AND IT MIGHT FALL UNDER ONE OF THOSE, BUT UM, I QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD, I KNOW WE ONLY OWN THE 13 OR 14 ROADS, BUT SHOULD WE, UM, EVALUATE THE SPEED LIMITS ON THOSE ROADS AND IF THEY ARE APPROPRIATE OR IF THEY NEED TO BE REVISITED? UM, I KNOW I HEAR NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS, UM, OF PEOPLE DRIVING TOO FAST OR OF IT BEING AN INAPPROPRIATE SPEED LIMIT ON SOME OF OUR TOWN ROADS. 
          AND SO I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE IT FALLS UNDER ONE OF THOSE THREE. 
          I DON'T THINK IT DOES. 
          WELL, WE COULD, UH, COULD WE ADD THAT TO THE NO, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY VALUE BECAUSE I KNOW WE DID THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY WHEN WE HAVE IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE MAKING THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT INCLUDED RECOMMENDATIONS OR REVIEWS OF SPEED LIMITS. 
          NO. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE , THAT WAS FOR AADA A COMPLIANCE, SIR. 
          NO, NOT SPEED LIMITS. 
          SO, NO, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY NEED TO BE A SEPARATE ITEM THAT WE CAN, CAN DO AND REEVALUATE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO, TO DO THAT. 
          UM, I WAS JUST GONNA QUESTION THE ROT RESURFACING AND MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE. 
          WE'RE, UM, IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GONNA REDO THREE OF THE FEW THAT WE OWN. 
          SO THEY'RE GONNA BE BRAND NEW. 
          I WAS WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE RESURFACED IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE 10 YEARS OR SOMETHING. 
          JUST SAYING WE'RE, WE'RE ALMOST, WE'RE GOING TO BE REDOING THESE BOUNDARY PAY. 
          I MEAN, UM, BOUNDARY CALHOUN AND WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? RICHARD HERE SIGNED THE CONTRACT FOR PRI AND BRIDGE AND BRIDGE. 
          SO I MEAN, LEAVE IT ON THERE, THAT'S FINE WITH ME, BUT IT'S HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOME NEW ROADS THAT WE WON'T HAVE TO RESURFACE FOR A WHILE. 
          WELL THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER IS NOT ONLY WE ALSO HAVE HAMPTON PARKWAY, WHICH IS A PRETTY LONG PARKWAY. 
          UM, AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON SOME OF THESE INTERCONNECTIVITY PROJECTS WITH BUCK WALTER, WITH HOLLY HILL THAT ARE GONNA PROVIDE US WITH ADDITIONAL ROADS IN THE FUTURE WHERE, AGAIN, THEY'RE GONNA BE NEW. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS IF WE DON'T START PLANNING ON WHAT THE FUTURE COST IS AND SETTING THE FUNDS ASIDE, JUST LIKE WE DO FOR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT, FOR HURRICANE PREPARATION, WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS, WE'RE GONNA COME TO Y'ALL ONE YEAR AND ASK FOR A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS TO PAVE ROADS AND YOU'RE GONNA SAY, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WHERE'D THIS NUMBER COME FROM? SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPPING AND WE'RE PREPARING FOR THAT FOR 10, 15 YEARS DOWN THE LINE. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          BOY, THAT'S, THAT'S FORESIGHT. 
          APPRECIATE OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, COUNSEL? OKAY. 
          UM, NEXT FOCUS AREA. 
          WE TAKE A BREAK. 
          YOU WANNA TAKE A BREAK? YEAH, LUNCH IS HERE. 
          LUNCH IS HERE. 
          OKAY, LET'S TAKE A BREAK. 
          GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO TAKE A BREAK. 
          LUNCH WILL BE HERE AND IT'LL BE SET. 
          IT'S HERE. 
          IT'LL BE SET UP IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR WORKING LUNCH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S TAKE 10. 
          OR DO YOU WANT THEM TO ADD THEIR PRESENT? 
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UM, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR SEATS, GRAB LAST BIT OF FOOD THAT YOU CAN GET. 
          UM, SO FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND, UH, PHASE OF, UH, A STUDY WE'RE DOING AROUND PERFORMING ARTS, UH, CENTER. 
          AND THEY REPORTED TO YOU ALL ON THE FIRST PHASE, UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO AT A WORKSHOP AROUND THE WHO IT'S ON. 
          THIS IS NOT ALLOWED. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE SECOND PHASE. 
          SO THE FIRST PHASE WAS AROUND WHAT IS THE DEMAND FOR THIS? IS THERE, IS THERE A COMMUNITY NEED? UM, AND WE MET WITH SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS, OVER 50 INDIVIDUALS FROM 30 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND THERE WAS A GENERAL DESIRE FOR SOME KIND OF FACILITY THAT, A MULTIPURPOSE FACILITY THAT CAN MEET PERFORMING ARTS NEEDS AS WELL AS, UH, DIFFERENT CONFERENCE AND, UH, EXHIBIT TYPE OF, UH, FUNCTIONS. 
          AND THE SECOND PHASE IS GOING INTO MORE OF THE, THE BUSINESS CASE. 
          SO WHAT DOES, WHAT DO THE FINANCIALS LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THE COST, HOW DO WE OPERATE? UM, WHERE, WHERE CAN IT BE LOCATED AND WHAT, WHAT DO THE FACILITIES POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE? UM, YOU KNOW, THIS STARTED, UH, A WHILE AGO FROM, UH, A DESIRES FROM SUMMIT COUNCIL TO KIND OF LEAN INTO THE, THE ARTS ASPECT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND KIND OF EMBRACE THAT. 
          AND WE WANNA LOOK FURTHER OUT INTO 10, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT OUR COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT KIND OF ASSETS WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOR THAT COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF BLUFFTON, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE UNINCORPORATED AREA AND THE INCORPORATED BLUFFTON. 
          YOU TAKE THOSE COMBINED AND WE'LL EVENTUALLY BE AROUND A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE WITHIN THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA. 
          THEN YOU LAYER ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN HARDY, ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND. 
          IT'S GONNA BE A BIG AREA. 
          THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF NEEDS, UM, AND A LOT OF, UH, UH, DEMAND FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASSETS, ENTERTAINMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE TYPE OF ASPECTS TO, TO OUR, TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO JOHNSON CONSULTING TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL THE SECOND PHASE OF THEIR STUDY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          UH, WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN. 
          JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL CAN HEAR ME AND THE MICROPHONES ARE WORKING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. 
          UM, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, UH, WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT OUR PHASE TWO FINDINGS, WHICH REALLY GOES INTO THE FINANCIAL THANKS, GOES INTO THE FINANCIAL, UM, BASE, UH, BASICALLY THE FINANCIAL PICTURE OF HOW THIS FACILITY IS GONNA OPERATE. 
          UH, WE TALKED IN THE FIRST PHASE ABOUT THE DEMAND PICTURE. 
          NOW THIS IS THE CORRESPONDING FINANCIAL, UH, PICTURE. 
          SO, UM, JUST BY WAY OF REINTRODUCTION, UH, RYAN JOHNSON WITH JOHNSON CONSULTING, I'M OUR PRACTICE LEADER FOR OUR PERFORMING ARTS AND CONVENTION CENTER PRACTICE AREAS. 
          I'M ALSO JOINED BY RYAN SMITH, WHO'S AN ASSOCIATE PROJECT MANAGER, UM, AND HAS BEEN SUPPORTING ME THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT. 
          AND JUST BY, UH, WAY OF BACKGROUND, OUR COMPANY, UM, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, HAS BEEN WORKING HERE IN BLUFFTON NOW FOR, FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND ALSO HAVE WORKED THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, NORTH CAROLINA, UH, THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST AND ALSO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. 
          SO WE HAVE A BROAD PERSPECTIVE ABOUT THESE VARIOUS OPPORTUNITIES AND HOW THEY CAN WORK, UM, IN THESE TYPES OF FAST-GROWING COMMUNITIES IN PARTICULAR. 
          UH, WITH THAT, I'D HAND IT OVER TO RYAN TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THIS PHASE OF WORK IN OUR LAST PHASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO AS CHRIS AND RYAN JUST MENTIONED, WE DID KICK OFF THIS PROJECT IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE ARE GONNA FOCUS ON PHASE TWO TODAY. 
          UM, BUT JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, WE WERE, UM, STARTED THIS STUDY AS A FOCUS ON A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          UM, AND THROUGH OUR RESEARCH AND THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT CHRIS JUST TALKED ABOUT, WE CONCLUDED THAT THERE'S A CLEAR DEMAND FOR, UM, DEVELOPING A FLEXIBLE MULTI-USE CULTURAL AND CIVIC VENUE HERE IN BLUFFTON. 
          THE PROPOSED VENUE WOULD HAVE TWO PRIMARY DEMAND DRIVERS. 
          ONE WOULD BE PERFORMING ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, AND THE SECOND WOULD BE THE FLEXIBILITY TO HOST CONFERENCES, MEETINGS, SOCIAL EVENTS, FUNDRAISERS, UM, AND THE MULTI-PURPOSE CAPABILITY OF THE VENUE. 
          WE'LL ENSURE IT'S UTILIZED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, SO PHASE TWO IS REALLY FOCUSED ON EVALUATING THE POTENTIAL SITE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS. 
          SO JUST TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH TODAY, UM, I'M GONNA RECAP THE OUTCOME OF PHASE ONE, GO THROUGH OUR SITE EVALUATION ANALYSIS AND REVIEW SOME TEST FITS THAT WE, WE WORKED WITH, UM, ANOTHER CONSULTANT TEAM THEATER COLLABORATIVE CONSULTANTS ON, UM, AND THEN GO THROUGH THE DEMAND AND FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS THAT LEAD INTO OUR ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS. 
          UM, WE'LL, WE'LL ALSO CONCLUDE WITH THE DISCUSSION WITH ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MAY HAVE, BUT FEEL FREE TO RAISE YOUR HAND OR INTERRUPT US AT ANY POINT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          SO TO RECAP THE PROGRAM, UM, FROM PHASE ONE, IT AGAIN IS 
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BEING NAMED A MULTIPURPOSE ARTS AND EVENT CULT, UM, CENTER. 
          SO BLUFFTON, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, HAS EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT POPULATION GROWTH NEARLY 190% SINCE 2010. 
          AND THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          THIS DEMONSTRATES BOTH A GROWING POPULATION BASE AND A STRONG CAPACITY FOR CULTURAL PARTICIPATION. 
          DESPITE HAVING AN ACTIVE ARTS COMMUNITY, BLUFFTON CURRENTLY LACKS A DEDICATED INDOOR VENUE FOR PERFORMANCES, CIVIC GATHERINGS AND PRIVATE EVENTS. 
          RESIDENTS ARE TRAVELING TO HILTON HEAD AND SAVANNAH FOR THESE EXPERIENCE TODAY, WHICH IS LEADING TO ECONOMIC LEAKAGE STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK, BROAD SUPPORT FOR THIS FLEXIBLE FACILITY THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE PERFORMANCES, YOUTH PROGRAMS, CONFERENCES, AND COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          THE RECOMMENDED DESIGN INCLUDES A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MAIN EVENT AND PERFORMANCE HALL WITH A FLEXIBLE SEATING TECHNOLOGY FOR UP TO 800 PEOPLE. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE GIF I HAVE IN THE CORNER THAT SORT OF DEMONSTRATES AN EXAMPLE OF THIS FLEXIBLE SEATING TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN PUSH ALL THE SEATING UP TO THE WALL OR TO THE FLOOR TO HAVE A FLAT FLOOR SPACE INSTEAD OF THEATER STYLE SEATING. 
          UM, OTHER SUPPORT SPACES INCLUDE LOBBY CATERING, KITCHEN, BACK OF HOUSE SPACES, UM, TO EMPHASIZE FLEXIBILITY AND ALLOWING THE VENUE TO HOST CONCERTS, THEATRICAL PRODUCTIONS, BANQUETS, TRADE SHOWS, AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING. 
          TO RECAP THE DEMAND STRATEGY FROM PHASE ONE, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT, UM, THREE PRIMARY DEMAND VERTICALS. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE EXTERNAL RENTALS AND TICKETED PERFORMANCES WILL, WHICH WILL BE THE HIGHEST REVENUE GENERATING DEMAND VERTICAL. 
          THE SECONDARY WOULD BE INTERNAL RENTALS AND CIVIC EVENTS HOSTED BY THE TOWN AND OTHER PUBLIC GROUPS SUCH AS SCHOOL GRADUATIONS. 
          AND THE LAST WOULD BE COMMUNITY PARTNER USE AND ARTS EDUCATION, INCLUDING DISCOUNTED RENTALS, WORKSHOPS, SCHOOL PARTNERSHIPS WHICH PRIORITIZE FACILITY ENGAGEMENT OVER REVENUE. 
          SO TO QUANTIFY THIS DEMAND, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A TABLE OF OUR PROJECTED DEMAND ANALYSIS FOR YEAR FIVE OF OPERATIONS. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE FIVE YEARS AFTER IT OPENS. 
          UM, SO THE CENTER IS PROJECTED TO HOST AROUND 226 ANNUAL EVENTS ATTRACTING NEARLY 55,000 ATTENDEES. 
          THE STRONGEST DEMAND IS EXPECTED FROM THOSE EXTERNAL RENTALS, UM, ALONG WITH HEAVY ACTIVITY FROM TICKETED EVENTS AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AS WELL. 
          ADDITIONALLY, MORE THAN A HUNDRED ARTS AND CULTURAL CLASSES ARE ANTICIPATED EACH YEAR HELPING TO ENSURE REGULAR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          OVERALL, THIS DEMAND SHOWS A BALANCE OF MIX, OF MIX OF PAID COMMUNITY AND EDUCATIONAL USES, POSITIONING THE FACILITY AS BOTH OF THE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL ASSET, AS WELL AS A SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL OPERATION. 
          WE'LL GET INTO THE FINANCES A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          UM, ONE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS THAT, UM, HOTEL PERFORMANCE WASN'T A CORE PART OF OUR STUDY, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SUCCESS OF A NEW FACILITY HERE AND THE INCREASED TOURISM THAT IT'S PROPOSED TO GENERATE WILL DEPEND ON HAVING ADEQUATE NEARBY LODGING TO SUPPORT THE VISITORS AND EVENT ATTENDEES. 
          THE HOTEL MARKET HERE IN BLUFFTON PERFORMS WELL WITH RATES OVER $200 AND AN OCCUPANCY NEAR 60%, BUT MOST ROOMS ARE CONCENTRATED ON HILTON HEAD. 
          THIS LEAVES LIMITED OPTIONS IN AND NEAR BLUFFTON, ESPECIALLY FOR EVENT AND GROUP TRAVEL. 
          WITH A NEW FACILITY CAPABLE OF HOSTING CONFERENCES HERE, THERE'S A CLEAR OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT NEARBY. 
          THAT WAS THE MAIN OUTCOMES OF PHASE ONE OF THIS PROCESS. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE INTO PHASE TWO, WHICH FOCUSED ON OUR SITE EVALUATION AND THEN OUR, OUR PROJECTIONS. 
          SO, UH, RIGHT HERE REALLY THIS SHOWS THE, UM, THE MOONEY SITE, WHICH WAS IDEN IDENTIFIED TO US, UH, BY TOWN STAFF AS THE TARGET SITE FOR THE PROPOSED LOCATION, UH, FOR THE, UH, THE MULTIPURPOSE EVENT CENTER. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THOSE, UH, CIRCLES REPRESENT THE EXISTING HOTEL SUPPLY. 
          AND IT'S REALLY CRITICAL AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL SITE FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO THE, THE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THAT A HOTEL COULD BRING, UM, TO, TO A PROJECT LIKE THIS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT FUNDED AND SUPPORTED SOME OTHER LAND USES THAT WE WERE THINKING. 
          LET ME INTERRUPT REAL QUICK. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO REFRESH MY MEMORY, BUT ON THE, UM, THE HOTEL QUESTION, WAS IT ONE TWO? SO, UM, IT'S GONNA BE AN EVOLUTION AND I THINK INITIALLY IT'D PROBABLY BE ONE PROPERTY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MULTI-PURPOSE SPACE. 
          UM, SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 600 OR SO ATTENDEES. 
          SO INITIALLY I THINK 
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ONE HOTEL WOULD PROBABLY BE SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT IT FROM A ROOM BLOCK PERSPECTIVE. 
          BUT AS THE COMMUNITY'S GROWING AND IT'S GROWING RAPIDLY, YOU KNOW, ONE, NOT ONLY WILL THIS PROJECT LIKELY EXPAND AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT WILL ALSO STIMULATE ADDITIONAL HOTELS REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THIS, THIS PROJECT AS WE LACK IN THAT AREA THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. 
          SO YEAH, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOSTING CONFERENCES AT THIS NEW FACILITY, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO EVENT PLANNERS TO BE ABLE TO SECURE ROOM BLOCKS, ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO THE VENUE. 
          SO SOME OTHER SUPPORTING LAND USES WE LOOKED AT WERE RETAIL OFFICE AND MULTIFAMILY TO, UM, LOOK AT THIS AS SORT OF A MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, THE SITE, WHILE IT HAS SOME NARROW ROAD FRONTAGE THERE ON, ON FORDING, UM, IT OFFERS FLEXIBILITY TO INTEGRATE THESE SUPPORTING USES A LITTLE BIT MORE ONTO THE SITE. 
          THERE'S A TON OF STUFF SURROUNDING IT AND BLUFF IN ITSELF, BUT HAVING A WALKABLE DESTINATION HERE WILL IMPROVE THE PATRON EXPERIENCE. 
          THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE SITE EVALUATION THAT'S DETAILED IN OUR REPORT, BUT I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF OUR FINDINGS HERE. 
          UM, SO IT'S A 20 ACRE FOOTPRINT, THE MOONEY SITE ITSELF, UM, LEAVING SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR NOT ONLY THE FACILITY PARKING, FUTURE EXPANSION AND SOME OF THESE OTHER SUPPORTING USES. 
          THE SITE ALSO OFFERS DEVELOPMENT FLEXIBILITY AND, BUT THERE ARE GONNA BE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH GRADING UTILITIES AND STORM WATER. 
          UM, IF I GO BACK A LITTLE BIT, THIS GRAY AREA, UM, IT'S UNDER CONTRACT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT, IT IS MOSTLY WETLANDS AND WILL BE PRESERVED AS SUCH. 
          UM, AS FAR AS COMMUNITY BENEFIT, THE SITE WOULD DELIVER STRONG COMMUNITY BENEFITS BY PROVIDING A NEW GATHERING PLACE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS AND STRENGTHENING BLUFFTON AS A CULTURAL AND EVENTS DESTINATION. 
          THE TYPE OF INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT CAN SERVE AS BOTH A CULTURAL ANCHOR AND A LONG-TERM ECONOMIC DRIVER THROUGH PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND HOSPITALITY. 
          DINING AND HOUSING PARTNERSHIPS ARE GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS PROJECT. 
          PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF THE ADJACENT WETLANDS CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTEGRATE NATURAL FEATURES INTO THE PROJECT. 
          HIGHLIGHTING BLUFF IN'S COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY. 
          THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTEST MAY ALSO OPEN DOORS TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES SUCH AS STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS, TOURISM FUNDING AND PHILANTHROPIC CONTRIBUTIONS. 
          WE THINK A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP MODEL COULD BE REALLY EFFECTIVE HERE WITH THE TOWN LEAD, LEADING CIVIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMPONENTS AND PRIVATE PARTNERS INVESTING IN HOSPITALITY, DINING AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS APPROACH SHARES RISKS, LEVERAGES PRIVATE CAPITAL AND SUPPORTS THE LONG TERM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS FOR BLUFFTON. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS AND DEVELOPMENT OVERALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY NOT INCUMBENT ON THE TOWN SOLELY TO FUND THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, BUT THERE'S A VARIETY OF PARTNERS THAT WE IDENTIFY THROUGHOUT THE NEXT STEP OF THE FUNDING DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN REALLY IDEALLY WILL BE THERE JUST TO CLOSE THE GAP AND THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE THE OVERALL PROJECT BUDGET WOULD BE FROM PRIVATE SOURCES, PHILANTHROPIC SOURCES, THE TYPES OF GRANTS THAT RYAN OUTLINED IN A VARIETY OF OTHER POTENTIAL SOURCES AS WELL. 
          SO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES WERE PROVIDED BY THEATER CONSULTANTS COLLABORATIVE, WHO WE WORKED WITH TO, UM, PROVIDE A SITE DIAGRAM OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY AND, UM, SOME DIFFERENT LAYOUTS. 
          SO USE MY LITTLE POINTER. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THE STAGE, THIS IS THE STAGE HOUSE HERE, AND THEN IT'S SHOWING THE DIFFERENT SEATING CONFIGURATIONS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE WITH THE SEATING TECHNOLOGY I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. 
          AND THIS JUST SHOWS, UM, A CROSS SECTION OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE SEATS, EITHER WITH RAKED OUT FOR A THEATER OR DOWN INTO THE FLOOR, PUSHED TO THE BACK OF THE FACILITY. 
          AND THEN THIS NEXT ONE HERE REALLY SHOWS ON THE LEFT WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE MOONEY SITE. 
          AND THEN THIS JUST KIND OF OUTLINES A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL OF THE PROGRAMMING INSIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          SO AGAIN, THE STAGE HERE, SOME BACK OF HOUSE SUPPORT, UM, THE STUDIO THEATER ROOM THAT COULD BE USED TO ZOO A COMMUNITY ROOM SUCH AS THIS, A BLACK BOX THEATER, UM, AND THEN A LOBBY AND CIRCULATION SPACES. 
          I CAN JUST ADD A COUPLE COMMENTS ON THE, THE LOCATION. 
          SO, UH, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE LAND ACQUISITION, UM, STRATEGY IS EVOLVING, UH, DAY BY DAY. 
          AND SO WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THEIR PIECE, THEY WERE, THEY REALLY WANTED TO HONE IN JUST ON PROPERTY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE UNDER OUR CONTROL AND OWN. 
          SO THAT'S WHY THE, THE CURRENT FOCUS IS ON THIS PARTICULAR TRACT OF LAND, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT SET IN STONE. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE OUR LAND ACQUISITION PROCESS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T SET IN STONE, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          IT'S JUST TO SAY IF THIS IS WHAT WE HAD AVAILABLE, THIS 
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IS KIND OF HOW IT WOULD FIT. 
          UM, BUT WE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE STILL IN TALKS WITH ON OUR LAND ACQUISITION STRATEGY. 
          SO NOW WE'RE GONNA MOVE ONTO OUR PROJECTIONS, UM, WHICH IS GONNA INCLUDE A LITTLE BIT OF RECAP FROM PHASE ONE AND HOW THAT INTEGRATES INTO OUR FINANCIAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACT PROJECTIONS. 
          UM, SO JUST TO EXPLAIN OUR METHODOLOGY HERE A LITTLE BIT, UM, THIS IS SHOWING HOW WE ESTIMATE THE ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED FACILITY. 
          SO WE START BY LOOKING AT VISITATION THE DAY TRIPPERS AND THE OVERNIGHT VISITORS. 
          AND, UM, ASSUMING THE AVERAGE AMOUNT THAT THEY'LL SPEND ON CATEGORIES LIKE LODGING, DINING, SHOPPING, ENTERTAINMENT, AND MULTIPLYING THOSE BY THE VISITORS TO GIVE US THE TOTAL DIRECT SPEND THAT SPENDING WILL THROW FLOW THROUGH THE LOCAL ECONOMY HERE. 
          SOME OF IT BECOMES INDIRECT SPENDING AS BUSINESSES BUY GOODS AND SERVICE TO SUPPORT THE ACTIVITY AND THEN INDUCE SPENDING, WHICH IS THE EMPLOYEES SPEND THEIR WAGES HERE LOCALLY. 
          AND THIS PRODUCED, UM, OUR INCREASED EARNINGS, NEW JOBS, AND OVERALL ECONOMIC GROWTH. 
          FINALLY, WE'LL APPLY LOCAL, STATE, AND OTHER APPLICABLE TAX RATES, UM, TO ESTIMATE THE TAX REVENUES THAT'LL FLOW BACK TO THE COMMUNITY DEMONSTRATING THE FACILITY'S BROADER RETURN ON INVESTMENT OUTSIDE OF THE OPERATING. 
          UM, SO HERE'S A, A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF YEARS ONE, FIVE AND 10 FOR THE PROPOSED FACILITY. 
          UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE, THE FACILITY IS GOING TO OPERATE AT A DEFICIT, AT LEAST THROUGH YEAR 10. 
          UM, REVENUES INCLUDE FACILITY RENTALS, TICKET FEES, FOOD AND BEVERAGE DONATIONS, SPONSORSHIPS, AND OTHER OPERATING REVENUES AND EXPENSES HERE ARE INCLUDING ALL OPERATIONAL COSTS AS WELL AS RESERVE FOR REPLACEMENT. 
          UM, SO I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER POINTS, UM, I REALLY WANNA HIGHLIGHT. 
          SO AS RYAN MENTIONED, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT SUBSIDY THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          BUT THE FRAME, THE CONTEXT OF THIS IS REALLY LOOKING AT THAT, UM, KIND OF OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT STRATEGY, THE ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACTS THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THIS TYPE OF PROJECT. 
          SO IN YEAR ONE, AS A RESULT OF THE ACTIVITY THAT HAPPENS AT THIS VENUE, THE TOTAL SPENDING THAT'S GONNA OCCUR WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IS ABOUT $8.5 MILLION AND THAT'LL GROW TO ABOUT $11 MILLION BY YEAR 10. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO THE FISCAL IMPACTS THAT ARE CAUSED BY INCREASED, YOU KNOW, HOTEL, UH, TAX, SALES TAX, ET CETERA, REALLY GO FROM ABOUT FOUR, UM, HUNDRED 25,000 TO 600,000. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN THESE TWO IMPACTS, BOTH THE, THE TOTAL IMPACT AS WELL AS THE FISCAL IMPACT, IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE, THE ANNUAL OPERATING SUBSIDY THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          UM, THERE'S ALSO A HIGH LEVEL OF JOBS, YOU KNOW, HIGH QUALITY JOBS THAT'LL BE A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THE EMPLOYMENT TYPE REALLY FOCUSES AND FITS WELL WITH THE TOURISM ECONOMY THAT YOU HAVE. 
          SO I THINK YOU HAVE A REALLY SOLID HOSPITALITY BASE OF, OF TALENT AND THIS'LL BE AN EXTENSION OF TAPPING INTO THAT AND GROWING THAT. 
          UM, FROM A JOBS PERSPECTIVE ON THE, UH, ON THE TOTAL FISCAL IMPACT MM-HMM . 
          OR MAY, I DON'T KNOW WHICH CATEGORY, EITHER THE TOTAL OR BLUFF, I DON'T KNOW, BUT UH, WHERE DOES THAT FACTOR IN THE HOTEL AT THAT POINT? BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          IT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF THE REVENUE, RIGHT? SO YOU MIGHT BUILD A PERFORMANCE CENTER, BUT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE A HOTEL FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. 
          SO WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THAT CASE AND WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GET THIS, UM, I THINK A MAJORITY OF THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM HOTEL MOTEL TAX. 
          AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED HOTEL ON SITE IN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS OR SO, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS IT'S GONNA COMPRESS OVERNIGHT STAYS TO THE EXISTING HOTEL SUPPLY. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE THIS IS INCREMENTAL, OVER AND ABOVE THE EXISTING HOTEL TAX THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING GENERATED. 
          SO THIS'LL BE FROM NEW VISITORS COMING TO THIS PROJECT, STAYING OVERNIGHT. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MARKETING STRATEGIES OF HAVING A DEDICATED HOTEL THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT IS GETTING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION FOR THE EXISTING HOTELS. 
          YOU HAVE A LOT OF TOURISM, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN STAYING IN THE HOTELS. 
          SO ARE THE HOTELS THEMSELVES WILLING TO GIVE UP, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED ROOMS, 50 ROOMS WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY DOING PRETTY WELL ON THEIR OWN? SO THAT'S REALLY ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR IS REALLY HAVING A HOTEL PARTNER. 
          YOU KNOW, IDEALLY FROM DAY ONE AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, UM, WOULD BE REALLY WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION AND IS OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE TOTAL PHYSICAL PHYSICAL IMPACTS ARE INCLUDING, 
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UM, ESTIMATED REVENUE FROM LODGING? CORRECT. 
          EVEN THOUGH THERE'S, IT'LL COMPRESS TO THE EXISTING SUPPLY EVEN THAT'S WHY THE BLUFFTON IS SEPARATED FROM THE REST OF IT. 
          YEAH, AND THAT'S A SUBSET. 
          SO WE WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE OF THAT 426,000, UH, BLUFFTON IN PARTICULAR'S, UH, 44,000 OF THAT 426, THAT'S A COMBINATION OF THE TOWN'S HOSPITALITY TAX AND THEN FOOD AND BEVERAGE TAX FOR THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, SO THIS NEXT SLIDE REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR LAST CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE EXPENSIVE PROJECTS AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, WE WORKED WITH OUR, UM, THEATER COLLABORATIVE CONSULTANTS TO DEVELOP A COST BUDGET AND IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT A $54 MILLION PROJECT OVERALL. 
          AND THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          MONEY, YOU KNOW, THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS HAVE A LOT OF TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS, CAPABILITIES. 
          UM, BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW THAT CAPITAL STACK, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PERFORMING ARTS AND ARTS PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S A HIGH LEVEL OF PHILANTHROPIC FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO THE TYPES OF GRANTS AND FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT THE COUNTY AND STATE LEVEL, AND THEN ALSO THE PRIVATE PARTNERS THAT YOU CAN BRING IN. 
          ONE, THE HOTELS AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT ALSO TO HAVE A PARTNER TO OPERATE THIS POTENTIALLY THEY CAN PROVIDE CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND DO THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE ANCILLARY, UM, VENUE GENERATED REVENUES THAT COULD, UM, APPLY. 
          BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'RE SHOWING A DEFICIT. 
          BUT AGAIN, OUR POINT IS TO GENERATE AS MUCH CAPITAL FROM THESE OTHER SOURCES AND TO HAVE THE TOWN BE THE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE THE GAP IF THERE IS ONE, UM, TO FUND THE BALANCE OF THE PROJECT. 
          SO I, I JUST WANT TO SET THAT EXPECTATION. 
          THE TOWN IS NOT IN OUR MINDS AND FROM OUR PRIOR EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, ON THE HOOK FOR THAT ENTIRE, UM, ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT BUDGET, THIS IS OUR LAST SLIDE HERE, JUST OUTLINING SOME OF THOSE FINANCING AND FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT MUNICIPALITIES DO USE TO FUND THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE LOOKED AT AS, AS A QUALITY OF LIFE AMENITY AND ASSETS, SUCH AS LIKE A LIBRARY, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, SO OFTENTIMES THERE, THERE ARE OPERATING SUBSIDIES THAT COME FROM THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT THESE ASSETS ARE LOCATED IN. 
          UM, I THINK AS, AS WELL AS IMPORTANT IS TO FOCUS ON HOW THIS FACILITY IS GONNA BE MARKETED, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GONNA BE PUBLICLY OWNED OR IF THERE'S GONNA BE A PROMOTIONAL PARTNER, UM, THINKING ABOUT HOW TO MARKET THIS FACILITY AND, AND REALLY BE ABLE TO ATTRACT THESE NEW TYPES OF EVENTS TO BLUFF AND THAT AREN'T OCCURRING HERE TODAY. 
          AND, AND I THINK THE LAST POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP FOR MORE QUESTIONS IS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES OF YOUR SIZE THAT ARE RAPIDLY GROWING AND ALSO THE BROADER METRO AREA. 
          THIS IS A TYPICAL PIECE OF COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXISTS IN OTHER LIGHT COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST WANT TO SAY HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE. 
          THIS REALLY SERVES AS THE COMMUNITY'S LIVING ROOM. 
          SO IT'S ALSO WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME IN AND HAVE ENTERTAINMENT THAT ARE COMING FOR TOURISM ACTIVITY. 
          SO IT REALLY PROVIDES A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS IT GROWS. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, UM, IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR YOU'D LIKE US TO GO OVER ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO. 
          ON YOUR, UM, WHEN YOU FIRST GOT STARTED WITH YOUR OUTLINE OF WHERE IT WOULD GO, SO TO SPEAK, ON THAT MOONEY TRACK, IF THAT'S WHERE WE DECIDED TO DO IT OR NOT, UM, HOW MANY ACRES IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SHOWED US, YOU KNOW, THE DIAGRAM AND THE SIZE OF THAT FACILITY, HOW MANY ACRES DOES IT WITH PARKING AND THE WHOLE SHEBANG? YEP. 
          UM, WHAT'S IT, WHAT'S IT TAKE? SO, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S A KIND OF A NUANCED QUESTION. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO ANSWER IT. 
          FIRST, IF IT'S JUST THE BUILDING AND IT'S SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE PARKING, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, FIVE ACRES OR SO. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HOTEL AND HAVING THIS REALLY ANCHOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, 20 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF FULL OPPORTUNE, YOU KNOW, LAND AVAILABLE. 
          NOT JUST FOR THIS, BUT ALSO THAT WHOLE MIXED USE TYPE ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, GOOD , NO QUESTIONS. 
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I'LL JUST ADD AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS. 
          SO WE WERE, UM, OBVIOUSLY ARE GONNA BE, UM, VISITING AND LEARNING FROM SIMILAR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, UH, IMPLEMENTED PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND FIND OUT WHAT THEIR TAKEAWAYS WERE, UM, LESSONS LEARNED, UH, IF THEY WOULD DO IT AGAIN OR NOT, AND KIND OF HOW THEY WENT AROUND, WENT ALONG THAT JOURNEY IN IDENTIFYING THEIR, THEIR FUNDING. 
          UM, AND THEN AS PART OF THE, THE UPCOMING BUDGET PROCESS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO INCORPORATE AND TAKE NEXT STEPS ON OR NOT. 
          SO THIS IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL, IT'S JUST KIND OF TO INFORM YOU ON WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          UM, I KNOW IT'S, UH, IT'S A BIG NUMBER AND BLUFFTON HASN'T SEEN A NUMBER THAT BIG BEFORE, RIGHT? SO WE'VE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE JUST FINISHED A RIVERSIDE BARN PARK, WHICH WAS $15 MILLION, AND I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST FACILITY PROJECT WE, WE'VE DONE. 
          UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE, THERE'S A LOT TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND, BUT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE THAT RESEARCH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE A, A, THE RIGHT DECISION AND A GOOD DECISION FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT GOES ON WITH THAT IS, AND I KNOW THAT I'VE ONLY BEEN DOING THIS WITH Y'ALL FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, BUT WAS THIS ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN FROM TWO YEARS AGO? LIKE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL IDENTIFIED AS SOMETHING YOU WANT FOR THEM TO EXPLORE AND RESEARCH? IT WAS BROUGHT UP OFF AND ON FOR A WHILE. 
          I DON'T, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS EVER ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, NOT SPECIFICALLY. 
          SO WE'VE TALKED, WE HAD A CULTURAL RESOURCES SECTION WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I REMEMBER WHEN HARRY LUTS, MY FIRST TERM WAS ON COUNCIL AND HE WAS BRINGING IT UP A GOOD BIT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT START STARTING BACK THEN, THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, NINE OR 10 YEARS AGO. 
          AND THEN JUST OVER TIME, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED OCCASIONALLY THROUGHOUT, BUT YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY ON A STRATEGIC PLAN, I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL THAT. 
          I MEAN, FOR ME, I'M, I'M A A NO ON THIS WITH WHERE WE ARE IN OUR TOWN RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M NOT SAYING IN THE FUTURE, BUT I HATE TO WASTE Y'ALL'S TIME AND RESOURCES LOOKING INTO SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT I'M A HARD NO ON SPENDING 54 MILLION PLUS PLUS PLUS ON. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED AND NEED TO ADDRESS BEFORE WE LOOK INTO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          UM, THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT. 
          BUT AGAIN, I JUST HATE TO WASTE THEIR TIME EXPLORING SOMETHING IF, YOU KNOW, BUT MAYBE THE MAJORITY OF US FEEL DIFFERENTLY, UM, THAT I HATE TO ECHO AND AGREE WITH, WITH, WITH EMILY. 
          BUT I HAVE TO , I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS YET. 
          I DON'T THINK DALLAS IS WHO WE ARE AS BLUFFTON RIGHT NOW. 
          AND, UM, THEY HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY RIGHT ACROSS THE BRIDGE. 
          SAVANNAH HAS TWO CENTERS THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THE SAME THING, AND IT'S LESS THAN 20 MINUTES AWAY. 
          SO I'M NOT OPPOSED, I, UM, ESPECIALLY IN AN EXPLORATORY PHASE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MAKING COMMITMENTS. 
          UM, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE, AS YOU ALL GO DOWN THIS ROUTE, IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, PARTNERS IN MIND THAT COULD BE, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED AS NAMING PARTNERS. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S HOW, UM, SAVANNAH WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE THEIRS, PARTICULARLY THE IN MARKET ARENA WITH GETTING THOSE RIGHTS. 
          'CAUSE UH, GOING AT IT ALONE, OF COURSE WE WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH THE, UM, THE, THE PRICE TAG THAT'S ON THAT WITH OTHER PRIORITIES. 
          BUT, UM, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE ENDEAVORING TO DO ON OUR OWN ANYWAY. 
          SO IF, UM, WE HAVE POTENTIAL NAMING PARTNERS OR IF THERE'S AN INTEREST FOR THAT, I'M ALL FOR EXPLORING IT. 
          UM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING IS EXPLORING RIGHT NOW. 
          DITTO. 
          YEAH, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE CAN'T REALLY, WE DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING. 
          SO I MEAN, THE MORE WE LEARN, EVEN IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE OR FEASIBLE RIGHT NOW IN OUR OPINION, OR THE MAJORITY OF WE'LL KNOW, LOOKING FORWARD OR HAVE SOME VALUABLE, VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR FUTURE COUNCILS. 
          AND, AND IF I, IF I MAY, UM, I THINK THE SITE VISITS THAT HAVE BEEN ORGANIZED WILL BE EXTREMELY INSIGHTFUL. 
          UM, SO THE SITES OR THE PROJECTS WE'VE WORKED ON A NUMBER OF THEM. 
          UH, THE PEACE CENTER IN GREENVILLE, AND IF YOU GO AND TOUR THAT FACILITY, IT'S ACTUALLY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FACILITIES, BUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND REVITALIZATION OF THEIR DOWNTOWN IS WHAT HAS MADE THAT PROJECT SO IMPACTFUL. 
          UM, AND THEN THE SPARTANBURG AREA, THEY'VE GOT A NUMBER OF FACILITIES, ONE'S THE SPARTANBURG MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM, UH, WILFORD, UH, COLLEGE HAS A, A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, SO HIGHLIGHTING HIGHER EDUCATION PARTNERS POTENTIALLY FOR THESE PROJECTS. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, IN, UH, CHARLOTTE, THERE'S, 
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UM, ANOTHER CENTER THERE THAT'S, THAT'S I THINK OF, UH, KEEN INTEREST IN THE FUNDRAISING, UH, STRATEGY FOR ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS I THINK WILL BE VERY GOOD. 
          SO, SO HAVE YOU EVER DONE ONE OF THESE, OR, OR IS THERE ONE THAT IS USED NOT ONLY FOR LIKE PERFORMING ARTS AND CONCERTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT AS A, AN ATHLETIC TYPE, YOU KNOW, GYMNASIUM OR, OR, UM, AN INDOOR SPORT, SO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT WAS MORE THAN JUST ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND, AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND RECOMMENDING IS MORE THAN JUST A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          IT DOES HAVE THE CONFERENCING CAPABILITY. 
          SO YOU CAN HAVE EXHIBIT BOOTHS SET UP A BANQUET CONFIGURATION. 
          AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE INDOOR SPORTS, UH, FACILITY OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY DON'T PAIR WELL WITH THE PERFORMING ARTS. 
          IT'S TYPICALLY PERFORMING ARTS AND CONFERENCE OR CONFERENCE IN INDOOR SPORTS. 
          SOME OF THE ACOUSTIC REQUIREMENTS FROM A THEATER PERFORMANCE PERSPECTIVE DON'T MATCH SOME OF THE, LIKE, THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS FOR THE, UH, THE INDOOR SPORTS TOURNAMENTS. 
          I THINK THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT AS WELL. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, WE WORKED ON THE CANE CENTER IN CORNELIUS, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. 
          UM, AND THEY HOST A TON OF WEDDINGS AND SOCIAL EVENTS THERE IN THEIR LOBBY. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALL WINDOWS. 
          IT'S A GORGEOUS BUILDING. 
          UM, SO THAT'S A HUGE REVENUE GENERATOR FOR THEM AS WELL. 
          AND HAVING CATERING AND THEIR FOOD AND BEVERAGE REVENUES. 
          A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. 
          ONE, IF WE ARE GONNA HAVE SITE VISITS IN THE ONES YOU RECOMMENDED, GREENVILLE, SPARTANBURG, AND CHARLOTTE, I WOULD RECOMMEND TRYING TO ADD SOME THAT ARE SMALLER TOWNS LIKE WE ARE, AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, BIGGER URBAN AREAS, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HOPING THAT THIS TOWN BECOMES. 
          UM, AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION, AND I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT BLUNTLY, BUT DO Y'ALL GET PAID IN THIS FEASIBILITY STAGE OR JUST IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE, HOW DOES THAT, SO WE'RE A THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT ADVISOR. 
          WE GET PAID FOR THE FEASIBILITY WORK. 
          WE ARE NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUNDING, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURING. 
          SO THIS IS ALL WE DO. 
          YOU KNOW, WE SET KIND OF THE STRATEGY FOR THIS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN UPSIDE ON IF THIS PROJECT GETS BUILT OR NOT. 
          AND THAT IS REALLY AT AN IMPORTANT POINT OF OUR PRACTICE, UM, IS REALLY MAINTAINING THAT IMPARTIALITY. 
          SO WE'RE YOUR ADVISOR. 
          THIS IS HOW WE THINK THIS PROJECT COULD BENEFIT YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          IF IT'S ACTUALLY UP AND BUILT, WE DON'T GET A BENEFIT FROM THAT AT ALL. 
          AND TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, UM, THE KANE CENTER, BRIAN MENTIONED IN CORNELIUS, THAT'S BASICALLY ABOUT OUTSIDE OF, UH, CHARLOTTE, KIND OF HOW YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF SAVANNAH. 
          IT'S A SMALLER COMMUNITY AS WELL. 
          SO IT HELPS JUST FOR REFERENCE, CORNELIUS IS ABOUT 35,000 POPULATION IN SPARTANBURG IS 40,000 POPULATION, AND WE'RE PUSHING RIGHT AROUND 35, 36 RIGHT NOW. 
          CHEFS. 
          YEAH, I, I HAVE TO KNOW MORE. 
          I, UM, I'M OPEN-MINDED OBVIOUSLY TO THE WHOLE IDEA OF IT. 
          I JUST, BUT AGAIN, AND, AND TO EMILY'S POINT TO MY LENS, I, YOU KNOW, OUR TOWN IS, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL. 
          AND ALL I MEAN BY THAT IS, OLD TOWN IS DIFFERENT THAN BUCKWALTER. 
          THE WILLOW RUN TRACK IS DIFFERENT THAN BUCKWALTER AND OLD TOWN. 
          SO, AND IF YOU'RE AT BUCK, IF YOU'RE AT WILLOW RUN, YOU'RE TOTALLY OFF THE PERIPHERAL EDGE OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE OLD TOWN COMMUNITY. 
          SO THEY'RE EACH UNIQUE IN THEIR OWN WAY. 
          UH, PALMA BLUFF IS DIFFERENT THAN HAMPTON LAKE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, WE HAVE A UNIQUE PERSONALITY, BUT, UH, TO THE POINTS BROUGHT UP FINANCIALLY, I WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT MUCH BETTER ABOUT WHO THE PARTNERS ARE. 
          MAYBE SOME PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO SHOW AN INTEREST, UM, BEFORE WE JUMP, YOU KNOW, DOWN AND GO DOWN THAT ROAD VIABLE PARTNERS, SO BEFORE THE COUNCIL COULD EVER PULL THE TRIGGER ON SOMETHING OF THIS SCALE. 
          SO, BUT I'M, I'M OPEN-MINDED TO EXPLORE IT FURTHER. 
          AND, AND BY THE SAME TOKEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW BIG WE ARE AND, AND EMILY, I'M RIGHT ON THERE WITH YOU. 
          I DON'T, I'M FINE SIZE, WE ARE HERE NOW, BUT WHEN YOU, YOU SAY WE'RE 35, 40,000 TODAY, ANOTHER FIVE YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER 5,000 OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY THAT SURROUNDS US, BASICALLY, AND HILTON HAD, AND WHAT'S COMING TO HARDY, YOU KNOW, IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT'S SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND, NOT, YOU KNOW, OUR 35 OR 40 ALONE. 
          SO THAT'S JUST THE FACTS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH ALL THIS POPULATION GROWTH. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY 
          [03:15:01]
MORE QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL OR, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU'ALL VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          MAY WANT TO TAKE JUST A FEW MINUTES AND THROW YOUR TRASH AWAY THE RESTROOM WHILE THE TRANSITION. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'VE GOT TWO MORE FOCUS AREAS TO GET THROUGH, UH, ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          SO ON ECONOMIC GROWTH, UM, IN FACT KIND OF FORTUITOUS, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC, UH, ECONOMY WITH THE, UM, THE GROUP THAT JUST PRESENTED, UH, CREATE A SMALL BUSINESS RESOURCE ADVOCATE, UH, WITH REGULATORY HELP IS THE FIRST PROJECT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? EXPAND JUST ASSISTING SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST ASSISTING SMALL BUSINESS. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT THE REGULATORY, SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HEAR A LOT, INCLUDING FROM COUNCIL, IS WHEN A BUSINESS TRIES TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING THEMSELVES OR BUILDING SOMETHING, THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AND THEY HIT ROADBLOCKS. 
          AND SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO ESTABLISH SOME KIND OF LIAISON OR HELP THROUGH DRCI THAT CAN GUIDE PEOPLE THROUGH DOING BUSINESS WITH THE TOWN AND OTHER REGULATORY, UM, AGENCIES IN THE STATE. 
          SO IT'S JUST HELPING GET THROUGH THAT, THAT PROCESS. 
          WELL, THEY, CHRIS, JUST, UM, DON REON, THE MENTORS AND ALL ARE HELPING THEM DO THAT CURRENTLY. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THEIR FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS ON HOW TO BE A BUSINESS. 
          IT IT'S NOT, THERE'S, I MEAN, THERE IS A PIECE OF IT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO, IN ORDER TO BE LEGAL AND EVERYTHING. 
          BUT AS FAR AS ACTUALLY DOING BUSINESS WITH THE TOWN ITSELF AND GETTING THROUGH ALL THE PERMITTING, LICENSING, AND THEN ANY OTHER STATE REGULATIONS THEY MAY HAVE TO NAVIGATE, IT'S REALLY HAVING SOMEONE THAT KIND OF HELPS 'EM THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THIS, THIS NEXT ONE IS, UH, CREATE AND IMPLEMENT AI TRAINING AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS. I, I'LL TELL YOU, EVERY  I WAS JUST RE CATCHING UP ON THE NEWS AND YOU KNOW, SAN JOSE, EVERY CITY IS, IS MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S STAFFED LIKE THE, THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AS A STRATEGIC PRIORITY. 
          QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? YES, SIR. 
          UM, IS STAFF, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE MAYBE STAFF COULD LOOK AT SOME LEVEL OF TRAINING FOR COUNCIL TO UPDATE US ALL ON ALL OF THIS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          GOOD FOR YOURSELF. 
           OPTIONAL TRAINING FOR  BAG BAG. 
          THAT'S, UH, TALK ABOUT TEACHING OLD DOG NUTRI . 
          WELL, YEAH, I'LL TELL YA. 
          AI IS, UH, AT LEAST IT HASN'T REACHED GENERAL INTELLIGENCE YET. 
          SO ONCE IT STARTS, IT'S, WE STILL DRIVE IT. 
          BUT WHEN IT STARTS THINKING ON ITS OWN, I'VE GOT SOME PROBLEMS WITH THAT. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA GO THERE. 
          UM, DEVELOP A BLUFFTON 2040 BUILD OUT PLAN. 
          UM, THIS PROJECT IS, IS REALLY, UM, UNIQUE AND IMPORTANT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD OUT, SO WHAT DOES THE CITY LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS, WHAT ARE YOUR RESOURCES LOOK LIKE? AND BUILDING OUT ALLOWS YOU TO GO BACK TO THE CURRENT TIME AND MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MAKE MISSTEPS,  LIKE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING STAFF OR BUILDING YOUR, YOUR, UM, FINANCIAL, UM, CAPACITY TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO, YOU KNOW, TO FUND THE CITY IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO, UM, A LOT OF CITIES ARE DOING IT AND, UH, IT'S PRETTY PROGRESSIVE, BUT DIDN'T WANNA SLOW YOUR THUNDER, BUT YEAH, NO, I MEAN, WE THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, AS WE NEAR THAT, THAT BUILD OUT, UM, PARTICULARLY IN RESIDENTIAL AND EVENTUALLY COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE TOWN LOOK LIKE? SO WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLANS. 
          WE HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN, WE HAVE COMP PLANS, UH, INDIVIDUAL, LIKE OLD TOWN MASTER PLANS THAT HAVE THIS VISION FOR THE TOWN. 
          UM, SO HOW DO WE PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND THEN TIE THAT IN WITH THE ACTUAL FINANCIALS BEHIND IT? WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE FINANCIALLY, ECONOMICALLY INTO THE FUTURE? AND WHAT DOES THAT PLAN LOOK LIKE? PULLING IT ALL TOGETHER. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE VISION FOR THIS ITEM REALLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S NO, UM, QUESTION, JUST TO COMMENT. 
          I THINK IT'S GREAT, UM, TO HAVE THAT, AND I THINK AS STAFF IS DOING THAT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE'RE DOING THAT BUILD OUT PLAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN STUCK IN A, A BLUFFING OF OLD AND REALISTICALLY, WE ARE NOT THAT BLUFFING ANYMORE. 
          UM, WE ARE A BLUFFING THAT HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY IN MANY WAYS. 
          AND I THINK, 
          [03:20:01]
UH, WITHOUT HAVING FORESIGHT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF, OF WHERE WE ARE FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, UH, LOOKING AT LIKE A FINANCIAL RESILIENCY STANDPOINT, WE COULD ALSO STIFLE THE ABILITY FOR BLUFFTON TO HAVE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY FOR, UM, THOSE WHO WILL BE COMING AFTER US. 
          AND I THINK LIKE THAT SHOULD BE AT THE FOCAL POINT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANY DEVELOPMENT BASED OFF OF A DESIRE TO WANNA KEEP, YOU KNOW, THIS PICTURE A SMALL TOWN WE'RE NOT, THAT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MEET CHALLENGES, DEMANDS OF WHERE WE ARE AND, UM, WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MY, MY FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS WHAT ARE WE GOING FINANCIALLY, HOW WE, WHAT'S OUR SUSTAINABILITY CHALLENGES? WELL, I THINK, AND THIS IS TYPICAL OF ANY COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT HISTORY, IS AS THEY BUILD OUT, THEY EVENTUALLY HIT A POINT WHERE THAT GROWTH REVENUE GOES AWAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? AND THEN AS THE TOWN CONTINUES AND IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN, UH, STAFF AND SERVICES FOR A COMMUNITY, THAT GROWTH REVENUE IS NOT THERE TO SUPPORT THAT GROWTH AND NEEDS. 
          UM, SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU ADJUST OR PLAN FOR THAT SWITCH FROM GROWTH TO STEADY STATE AND WHAT'S THE NEXT, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS AND HOW DO YOU FINANCIALLY PREPARE FOR THAT? SO THAT OBVIOUSLY WILL BE A CHALLENGE FOR US, AND, BUT WE NEED TO STOP WORKING ON THOSE FEASIBILITY STUDIES NOW AS WELL. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE'VE ADDED HERE AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER LONG RANGE STUDIES THAT WE PUT IN THE, THE FINANCIAL SECTION. 
          IT'S ALL TIES TOGETHER. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY COMING IN FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THEN THE ONLY OTHER PLACE TO GET MONEY IS FROM THE, THE PEOPLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BY INCREASING THE MILLAGE RATE AND COLLECTING MORE PROPERTY TAXES AND THE GOAL YEAH. 
          WHICH IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE GOAL IS TO PLAN FOR IT SO THAT WE CAN MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT SO THAT WE'RE NOT OVERBURDENING OURSELVES OR HAVE THE DIVERSIFICATION OF REVENUE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON ONE SINGLE SOURCE. 
          AND, AND IF YOU THINK AHEAD, YOU CAN MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS. 
          SANDRA, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE ROAD MAINTENANCE EARLIER, IS WE KNOW IT'S NOT NECESSARILY MUCH OF AN ISSUE NOW, BUT IT WILL BE IN 10 TO 15 YEARS. 
          SO HOW DO WE START PLANNING FOR THAT, THAT NOW ONE, ONE OTHER OBSERVATION. 
          WE, WE, WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH HALF A DAY AND WE NEVER OPENED UP ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, FOR OUR GUESTS TO SPEAK WHEN, UM, WE CAN, UM, DID WE WANT TO GET IT A STOPPING POINT? AND THEN I'LL OPEN ASK THAT, UM, WHERE, HOW, HOW MUCH, WHERE ARE WE? SO WE'VE GOT THIS, WE'VE GOT ONE MORE, UM, ONE MORE FOCUS AREA AND THEN WE FINISH. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO DO IT AT THE END, UM, LET'S STOP AND DO IT RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT WAY IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO HOME, I, I, I UNDERSTAND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA DO IT KIND OF LIKE TOWN HALL. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          IF THERE'S ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO GET UP AND SPEAK. 
          UM, COME ON UP SOMEWHERE. 
          , I PRACTICED THIS. 
          IT'S GONNA BE TWO MINUTES AND 47 SECONDS. 
          DING. 
          NO, IT'S GONNA BE SHORT. 
          UM, AND I THINK WHAT I'M GONNA SAY HAS TO DO WITH A LOT OF WHAT Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT TODAY, BUT SPECIFICALLY THIS 2 20 40 PLAN. 
          UM, A LOT'S BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT, ABOUT EVERYTHING, BUT I WANNA KEEP THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN FRONT OF ALL OF YOUR EYES AND EARS AND MINDS AND FAULTS. 
          UM, IN 2010, WE SAT RIGHT HERE. 
          IT WAS THE LAST TIME WE REALLY FORCED OUR COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT A VISION. 
          WHAT WERE WE GONNA BE IN FIVE YEARS? WHAT DID WE LOOK LIKE IN 10 YEARS? WHAT WERE WE GONNA LOOK LIKE IN 2025? WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          IT'S THE LAST TIME WE REALLY CHALLENGED OURSELF. 
          AND I LOVE, WE STILL KEEP THAT VISION. 
          BUT BACK THEN WE SAID IN 2025, BLUFFTON IS A BEAUTIFUL SOUTHERN TOWN THAT IS THE HEART OF THE LOW COUNTRY. 
          IT HAS AN AUTHENTIC HISTORIC DISTRICT, CELEBRATES MAY RIVER RESPECTS THE BLUFFTON CHARACTER. 
          WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF LIVABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, UNIQUE DESTINATIONS WHERE RESIDENTS ENJOY AN ACTIVE LIFESTYLE AND OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE FUN. 
          WE'VE HIT IT, HAVEN'T WE? BUT ARE WE AUTHENTIC? ARE WE AN AUTHENTIC HISTORIC DISTRICT? HAVE WE LIVED UP TO THE PROMISE OF PROTECTING BLUFFTON AUTHENTIC HISTORIC DISTRICT? EVERY CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, WHICH WE NOW CALL A RESOURCE, TELLS PART OF OUR STORY. 
          WHEN ONE DISAPPEARS, WE DON'T JUST LOSE A BUILDING, WE LOSE STORIES OF HOW BLUFFTON 
          [03:25:01]
BEGAN, THE FAMILIES, THE CRAFTSPEOPLE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE SHARED HISTORY THAT BUILT THE HEART OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          OUR ORIGINAL SQUARE MILE ISN'T JUST LAND, IT'S LIVING HISTORY. 
          AND WITH EACH LOSS THAT HISTORY BECOMES HARDER TO TELL. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT NOT ONLY WE PROTECT THE STRUCTURES, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THEM, BOTH BLACK AND WHITE FAMILIES WHOSE HANDS AND HEARTS SHAPE THE BLUFF. 
          AND WE KNOW TODAY, REMEMBER THAT WHILE THE MATERIALS USED IN THOSE BUILDINGS REALLY IS IMPORTANT, MORE IMPORTANT ARE THE STORIES THAT CAME FOR FROM WITHIN THESE WALLS. 
          FROM BRIDGE STREET TO HAYWARD STREET, ALONG MAY, RIVER ROAD, DOWN CALHOUN STREET AND CHURCH STREET. 
          GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES BUILT HOMES, BUSINESSES, AND PLACES OF WORSHIP THAT GAVE THIS TOWN, UM, ITS SOUL. 
          NATHANIEL AND ELLIE BROWN, THE BROWN FAMILIES, GARVIN GARVEY FAMILY, CAMPBELL, A MU CHURCH. 
          AND SO MANY OTHERS REPRESENT STORIES OF BLUFF IN'S BLACK COMMUNITY WHOSE CONTRIBUTIONS ARE VITAL TO OUR IDENTITY. 
          FAMILIES LIKE THE GRAVES FAMILY, THE HAYWARD'S, AND MANY OTHERS, CARRIED THE WHITE HERITAGE OF STEWARDSHIP, PRESERVATION AND COMMUNITY SPIRIT. 
          TOGETHER, THEY WROTE THE FABRIC OF THE TOWN. 
          AS WE GROW, WE WANT YOU TO CAPTURE THIS AND EXPAND THE 2025 VISION TO PROTECT EVERY CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, TELL EVERY STORY, AND MAKE A PRESERVATION A TRUE PILLAR OF OUR FUTURE PLANNING. 
          GOVERNOR MCMASTER, SOME OF US WERE THERE. 
          HE BELIEVED IN THE STATE OF THE REGION. 
          ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CONSERVATION, AND PRESERVATION ARE THREE LEGS OF A STOOL THAT HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO KEEP THE STOOL STANDING. 
          WE'VE PROVEN THAT GROWTH AND PRESERVATION CAN COEXIST. 
          SO I'M FINISHING WHAT IS OUR VISION FOR THE NEXT 15 YEARS AS WE WILL BE BUILT OUT. 
          IT'S SO FUNNY. 
          15 YEARS IS 2040 AND THERE IT STANDS. 
          WHAT IS OUR VISION? UM, WE WILL WE CONTINUE TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER IN HISTORY THAT MAY BLUFF IN THE HEART OF THE LOW COUNTRY. 
          OR WILL WE ALLOW THOSE FIRST CHAPTERS OF OUR STORIES TO FADE AWAY? I HAVE SOLUTIONS. 
          I NEVER BELIEVE IN COMING WITH AN ISSUE, WITHOUT A SOLUTION. 
          UM, AND I THINK THEY GO TO UDO EDITS. 
          I THINK THEY CAN BE SIMPLE, THEY CAN BE PARTNERSHIPS, WE CAN JOIN FORCES. 
          EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID TODAY REALLY HIT SOME ON MY NEW MISSION. 
          UM, AND I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN. 
          I CAN GIVE YOU EDITS. 
          I CAN SIT WITH COUNCIL. 
          I'D LOVE TO SIT WITH STEVEN AND OTHERS BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN, IF WE ALL BELIEVE IN THAT HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT WE CAN KEEP IT HERE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. 
          SO DEAR, IS THAT THREE MINUTES, WHATEVER , IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, LET'S PROCEED. 
          SO DOES HER WHAT HER QUESTION OF, UM, REVISITING THE VISION FALL INTO THIS? I WOULD THINK SO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR GROWTH OR WHATEVER, BUT IF WE WANT REVISIT OUR VISION STATEMENT AND WHAT WE WANT LET THEM TO LOOK LIKE IN 2040, CAN IT FALL INTO THAT? WHAT, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, UM, 2040 AS FAR AS FINANCIAL IN 2040, UM, I THINK WE CAN PLUG THAT IN. 
          HMM. 
          SO IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY WANTING TO REVISIT THE TOWN'S MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT NO. 
          THAT WE PUT UP ON THE WALLS AND EVERYTHING, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PROBABLY A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM UNDER QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT WAS SAID. 
          WHY WOULD WE NEED TO GO BACK TO MS. BIRD? WELL, WHY DO YOU THINK, I THINK REVISITING OUR VISION STATEMENT, IF IT TRULY WASN'T, IF IT HASN'T BEEN REVISITED SINCE 20 10, 15 YEARS AGO, I MEAN, IS NOW IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS A GOOD TIME TO REVISIT OUR VISION STATEMENT SO WE CAN PLAN FOR WHAT WE WANT LEFT AND TO LOOK LIKE IN 2040. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THE VISION STATEMENTS TELL US WHAT WE ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. 
          IT'S CORRECT. 
          COMP PLAN. 
          REPHRASE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO YEAH, THE, THE, WE DID REVISIT THE MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT I THINK TWO YEARS AGO WHEN YOU GUYS WERE HERE. 
          UM, RIGHT? TWO OR THREE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE 2040 PLAN IS REALLY GONNA USE THE ESTABLISHED COMP PLANS AND THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN TO GUIDE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE SEE THE TOWN GOING AS WELL AS THE, YOU KNOW, 92% OF OUR TOWN IS, IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. 
          SO IT'S ALREADY PLANNED OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK LIKE RESIDENTIALLY AND WHERE THE COMMERCIAL SPACE IS GONNA BE. 
          SO WHEN ALL THAT IS BUILT OUT, IT'S HAPPENING WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT, HOW DO WE PREPARE OURSELVES FINANCIALLY, UM, AND BASED ON WHAT OUR ESTABLISHED NEEDS ARE FROM THOSE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT ARE IN PLACE AND ADOPTED ALREADY. 
          AND I, I, I THINK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HELPS EMILY OR NOT, I THINK, UM, TO 
          [03:30:01]
WHAT MAYOR SELCO WAS SAYING AND WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE UDO, THAT'S HOW WE CONTINUE TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY IN THE OLD TOWN AREA. 
          LIKE I SAID, IT OLD TOWN'S DIFFERENT THAN PAM BLUFF. 
          I MEAN, IT'S JUST DIFFERENT, BUT, UH, AND UNIQUE. 
          SO I, I THINK WE KNOW WE ARE, I THINK STAFF'S ALREADY TOUCHED ON THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REVISIT THE UDO AND TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          WELL ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HEATHER HAD ON THIS MORNING, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO NOW, IS ONE OF THE CARRY FORDS WE HAVE IS TO UPDATE THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN. 
          AND REALLY IF THERE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE IN THE UDO RELATED TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN THAT IT'S IDENTIFIED, I THINK THAT IS WHERE IT WILL GET CAPTURED AND WILL BE AN IDEAL TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          BECAUSE THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN THAT WE HAVE IS 20 YEARS OLD NOW. 
          WE'VE MADE MANY EDITS TO THE UDO THAT GO AGAINST THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN. 
          SO NOW IT'S TIME TO REVISIT IT AND SAY HERE'S WHERE WE, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE NOW, WHAT'S OUR VISION FOR THE OLD TOWN AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICT LOOKING FORWARD? AND ARE THERE CHANGES LIKE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPES, RESTRICTIONS, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN THE AMENDMENT GOING FORWARD? RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE WE'VE CHANGED IT THROUGH THE YEARS MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          CORRECT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE EXCEPTIONS FOR THE RIVERFRONT. 
          WE'VE MADE EXCEPTIONS FOR ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE'VE REDUCED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE RIGHT. 
          OF SPACES. 
          WE'VE IDENTIFIED NEW BUILDING TYPES. 
          SO AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S AS WE REDO THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, I THINK SPECIFICALLY WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WILL BE CAPTURED AND GIVE COUNCIL PUBLIC AND ANYBODY A CHANCE TO GIVE INPUT ON WHAT THEY ENVISION THE NEXT 20 YEARS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN OLD TOWN TO LOOK LIKE. 
          SO THAT WE CAN THEN SET ANY EDITS, BRING ANY CHANGES THAT COUNCIL MAY WANT TO PUT IN PLACE. 
          I THINK I HEARD ALSO THAT, UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE SAY WHO WE ARE AND WHO WE WANT TO BE, UM, WE, WE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE IN OUR, IT'S IN OUR FOCUS FROM, FROM HERE, FROM HERE ON. 
          UM, AND I THINK, I THINK WHAT I HEARD THE MAYOR SAYING IS, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE WHO WE ARE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE MM-HMM . 
          BUT THE OTHER, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, ACTION ITEM THAT WE WE'RE NOT, HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, BUT IT IS IN YOUR BINDER IS, IF YOU RECALL THE COMP THE COMP PLAN, WHICH IS REALLY THAT ROADMAP FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. 
          UM, 10 YEARS, RIGHT. 
          10 YEARS. 
          SORRY, 10 YEARS NOW . 
          I KNOW, RIGHT? 10 YEARS IS, THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THAT OVER OVERALL LIKE VISION OF WHAT THE ROADMAP WHERE YOU WANT YOUR COMMUNITY TO BE. 
          WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO BE? WE ACTUALLY SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO A FIVE YEAR REVIEW. 
          SO THAT IS ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THAT WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD IN THE DOCUMENT. 
          SO, AND THAT RE-REVIEW COULD JUST BE LIKE, WE'RE GOOD, WHAT WE SAID NOT, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO STILL APPLIES. 
          OR WE NEED TO TWEAK THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH THEN SUPPORTS UDO AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES FILL MASTER PLAN. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THAT VISION AND WHAT YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE, YOU KNOW, STARTS FROM THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER PLANS. 
          SO I THINK THIS IS MORE FINANCIAL IMPACTS AND, BUT THE COMP PLANS, YOU KNOW, TOUCHES ON ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS AND WE'LL BE DOING THAT IN TWO YEARS. 
          , YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, TO PRIDE OUR OURSELF IN SAYING THAT WE WAS, WE WERE GROWING TOWN WITH A SMALL TOWN FEEL. 
          WE USED TO PRIDE OURSELF IN SAYING THAT. 
          'CAUSE WE, THAT, THAT HELPED US NOT TO LOSE OUR FOCUS ON OUR CULTURE AND, AND, AND, AND PRESERVING IT. 
          UH, GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          SO BILL, ARE WE STILL ON THE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          ECONOMIC GROWTH, UM, SO, UH, CONDUCT A TOURISM LODGING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A, IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE YES, SIR. 
          DONE. 
          AS WE LOOK, LOOK TO THE FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORTING THE TOWN, THAT'S, THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE ARE VERY SLIM ON OR POUR ON. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, FROM ALL ACCOUNTS IS A HUGE CONTRIBUTOR TO ALL TOWNS, YOU KNOW, GENERATOR OF REV. 
          AND THE LAST ITEM, UH, OUR LAST PROJECT ASSESS UTILITY, UH, TECH INFRASTRUCTURE READ READINESS. 
          AND THAT'S, UH, JUST, UH, MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICAL INFRASTRUCTURE'S HERE TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES, THE COMMUNITY, UH, GOING FORWARD. 
          [03:35:03]
ANY QUESTIONS? WE GOOD? OKAY. 
          ECONOMIC. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THE LAST AREA, SORRY, I WANTED NO, NO, THAT'S FINE. 
          THIS IS, UH, UNDER COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE AND UH, THE FIRST PROJECT IS LAUNCH A DIGITAL. 
          THIS, THIS IS SO COOL. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I GOT EXCITED YESTERDAY. 
          , I, I WAS TELLING, UH, TRACY, I WANT TO GET THIS AS SOON AS YOU GET IT ON, IS A DIGITAL, UM, SERVICE APP FOR A BILLING PERMITTING REQUEST ALERTS. 
          SO IT WOULD BE, UH, IT WOULD BE A DIGITAL APP, BUT THE APP MAY ALSO INCLUDE OTHER ITEMS IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING AS I UNDERSTAND, IS YOU COULD JUST GO TO THE APP STORE, DOWNLOAD IT, AND THEN YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, UM, COMMUNITY CITIZENS WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THAT. 
          THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. 
          UM, THAT SHOULD, UH, THAT'S, SORRY TRACY. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT IT. 
          UM, . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M ALREADY, I'M ALREADY THERE. 
          I I'M ALREADY THERE. 
          MIKE WAS TRYING TO DOWNLOAD IT AT LUNCH. 
          YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO DOWNLOAD IT. 
          I ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, COUNSEL? NO, IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          UM, EXPLORE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE A GOCHI, A HERITAGE COMMITTEE, UH, COMMITTEE TO PROMOTE, UM, BLUFF IN'S INVOLVEMENT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? SOMEONE EXPAND? UM, I'D LIKE TO HAVE RICHARD'S PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHE'S WORKING ON. 
          . 
          UM, I KNOW THIS WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE, UH, BLUEPRINT CONVERSATION BEFORE. 
          I THINK, UH, KEVIN, I KNOW WE MENTIONED IT ON HOW, HOW TO GO ABOUT DOING IT. 
          UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS LIKE PARAMETERS AND POLICIES IN PLACE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED. 
          AND THERE'S SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE ALREADY HAD SUCCESS WITH IT. 
          UM, I KNOW, OR COUNTY HAS BERKELEY COUNTY, BUT HILL NET IS OUR NEIGHBOR WHO'S DONE REALLY GOOD WITH THIS IN DEVELOPING AN ACTUAL COMMISSION. 
          UH, CDC, UM, IS THE NAME OF THEIRS, A GULLAH GEECHEE TASK FORCE. 
          AND WHAT IT IS, IS IT IDENTIFIES PRIORITIES FOR THE NATIVE COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR TO LIKE, REDUCE THE IMPACTS OF GENTRIFICATION OR EXCLUSIONARY, UH, THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, UM, PERMITTING ISSUES OR HOUSING NEEDS OR, UM, HISTORICAL THINGS. 
          IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY'S INCLUDED. 
          BUT IT ALSO TAKES IT FROM JUST BEING AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY HAS POWER. 
          UM, THE COMMITTEE WE HAD BEFORE WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE MASTER MASTER PLAN BLUEPRINT WAS JUST A COMMITTEE GIVING CONVERSATION, BUT THERE WAS NO IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND WHEREAS HILTON HEADS, THEY, IT'S COMPRISED OF NOT JUST THE GOLD COMMUNITY, BUT THEY HAVE LIKE RESIDENTS WHO'VE MOVED IN. 
          SO IT'S A COMMISSIONER WHO, UM, IS NEW TO THE AREA BUT LIVES IN A GATED COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S SOMEONE WHO'S FROM THE BUSINESS WORLD AND SO IT'S ABOUT NINE PEOPLE AND THEY MEET TO SET PRIORITIES AND THEY BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN. 
          BUT IT COULD BE A CONVERSATION ON, UH, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEEDS ALONG, UM, A SIMMONS ROAD OR ALONG A GOTHE ROAD, HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE TO A RESIDENT WHO MAY NOT COME UP OR MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS. 
          SO THE COMMISSION IS LIKE A LIAISON BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PRIORITIES OF, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE CULTURAL COMMUNITY IS NOT LEFT OUT FROM SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF NAVIGATING THINGS, UM, FROM A PERMITTING STANDPOINT THAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO OR NOT USED TO. 
          UM, MANY COME FROM AN INSTANCE WHERE YOU COULD BUILD A PORCH AND NOT HAVE TO GET A PERMIT. 
          YOU COULD GO IN AND DIG A SEPTIC TANK WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A DAC. 
          YOU COULD ADD TWO MORE ROOMS ON WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THAT. 
          UM, AND SO ORDINANCES AND THINGS HAPPEN WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT COMMUNITY. 
          AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE IT AS, WELL, WHY DO I HAVE TO NOW DO SOMETHING I NEVER HAVE TO DO IT BEFORE AND NOT UNDERSTAND, WELL, IT MIGHT BE A SAFETY NEED IN DOING THAT. 
          WE DON'T WANT YOU TO JUST PUT ANYTHING UP. 
          UM, AND IT'S NOT, DOESN'T HAVE THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY THAT MAY BE REQUIRED. 
          SO, UM, I PROPOSE THAT IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THAT IN A WAY THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE GO COMMUNITIES ARE DOING IT. 
          UM, JUST VIA GO IN BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE COMMUNITIES. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. 
          UM, DID WE CAPTURE THAT? SO, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND I KNOW THERE WAS KIND OF THE QUESTION, 'CAUSE HILTON HEAD HAS KIND OF TWO PORTIONS OF IT. 
          THEY HAVE THE ONE THAT'S LIKE AN ACTUAL COMMITTEE THAT IS KIND OF UNDERNEATH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO HELP PROVIDE THAT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS REALLY MORE OF KINDA THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PART OF IT. 
          AND UM, THAT'S WHERE IT KIND OF POSED 
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A QUESTION FOR THE CONVERSATION IN HERE, UM, WAS WHETHER THAT'S MORE OF THE OTHER PART OF IT, THE ECONOMIC AND THE OUTREACH OF WHETHER THAT'S MORE OF A TOWN OR WHETHER IT'S MORE OF A PARTNERSHIP SINCE THE, THERE'S A GULLAH GEECHEE HER WITH THAT GULLAH GEECHEE HERITAGE CENTER. 
          WHETHER THAT'S, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, LIKE HE WAS ASKING, ARE WE CAPTURING WHAT YOU OUTLINED WITH THE STATEMENT IN HERE, WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED AND WHAT COUNSEL AND, AND JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT. 
          'CAUSE THAT TALKS ABOUT, UM, PARTNERING WITH THE HERITAGE COMMITTEE. 
          BUT IF IT'S BOTH, THEN I WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE IT CORRECTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S MORE ON A COLLABORATIVE, UM, EFFORT AND LIKE PROMOTION AND MORE OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PORTION YEAH. 
          THAT THEY HAVE ON HILTON WHERE THEY DID THE APP AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          IT WAS MORE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT CAPTURES MORE IS PARTNERING WITH THE GOLI GEECHEE HERITAGE CENTER ON THAT. 
          SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH COUNT THAT WE'RE CAPTURING IT PROPERLY, THEY'VE MERGED. 
          THERE'S, UM, NOW IS THERE A SPACE SEPARATE FROM THIS ON OUR STRATEGIC WHERE WE CAN HAVE AN INCLUSIONARY COMPONENT FOR, UM, A SIMILAR, UH, TASK FORCE THAT WE DISCUSSED? I THINK IT WOULD GO UNDERNEATH HERE. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF WHAT, HOW WE OUTLINE THAT, THAT WORDING WHEN IT SAID PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GULLAH GEECHEE HERITAGE COMMITTEE. 
          WHAT'S WHAT YOU MENTIONED CENTER. 
          SO WHAT'S THE WELL THAT'S THE FOUNDATION. 
          THE COMMITTEE FOR THE FOUNDATION, THE GULLAH GEECHEE HERITAGE CENTER HAS A A, A STEERING COMMITTEE. 
          UH, HOW MANY? IT'S LIKE SEVEN, UH, NINE, NINE MEMBERS. 
          SO KIND OF WHEN COUNCILMAN FRAZIER AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN FRAZIER AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, IT WAS MORE OF THE QUESTION OF IF WE'RE GONNA TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TRY TO PARTNER FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR DO MORE, UM, OUTREACH AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, WHETHER IT'S BETTER FOR THE TOWN TO BE THE LEAD ON THAT OR WHETHER IT'S THE WORK BETTER TO WORK WITH THE HERITAGE CENTER AND THAT, THAT, UM, COMMITTEE TO REALLY MORE OF PARTNER AND SUPPORT THEM TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE THE LEAD INTO THE COMMUNITY SINCE THERE'S A GROUP THAT ALREADY EXISTS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S, IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IS WHETHER WE PARTNER, WHETHER WE SUPPORT, WHETHER WE LEAD, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHICH DIRECTION WE WANT TO TAKE WITH IT. 
          UM, AND WHETHER IF THERE'S ALREADY A, A, A HERITAGE, UH, CENTER AND AND NONPROFIT, WHETHER THE TOWN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, BEING THE LEAD ON IT, IS IT GONNA BE SEEN? THAT'S WHY I BRING UP THE CONVERSATION IS WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE C WITH US TRYING TO SUPERSEDE WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR NOT PART, NOT BEING OR WHETHER TO BE A PARTNER AND LET THEM BE THE ONES LEADING. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONVERSATION KIND OF CAME FROM. 
          CAN I ASK, UH, AND I'M SOMETIMES I, I MISS THE BOAT. 
          I'LL GET ON THE SHIP AT THE RIGHT TIME. 
          NOT DAMN. 
          IT'S CLEAR AS MUD TO ME. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY OR ACCOMPLISH RIGHT THIS MINUTE. 
          UM, BEFORE I COULD EVEN MAKE A COMMENT ON IT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DRAFT OF SOME KIND OUTLINING WHAT IT IS WE THINK WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          BECAUSE WHAT I JUST HEARD, I REALLY DON'T GET IT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THAT LITERALLY SAYS IS TO EXPLORE. 
          UM, AND THE ONLY WORD I THINK THAT'S IN THERE THAT'S, OR PART THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION IS RIGHT NOW IT SAYS EXPLORE A PARTNERSHIP WITH COAH GEECHEE, UH, HERITAGE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, AND I DON'T KNOW BRIDGET OR, OR COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN FRASIER, IF I'M USING THE WRONG TERM, PLEASE TELL ME. 
          I I I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A HERITAGE COMMITTEE OR THE HERITAGE FOUNDA, WHAT THE ACTUAL TERMINOLOGY IS, BUT WHETHER, UM, IT'S EXPLORE THE PARTNERSHIP OR JUST TO EXPLORE RELATIONSHIPS, RELATIONSHIPS OR OTHER, UM, OTHER WAYS TO PROMOTE THE GULLAH GEECHEE HERITAGE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WORDING IT TO, UM, AND AGAIN, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO PUT THAT INTO, TO A, A PLAN AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. 
          WELL, AGAIN, I JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY AND, AND TO ME, THE, THE GULLAH GEECHEE HERITAGE, UH, COM COMMITTEE, NOT EVEN A COMMITTEE, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS PROMOTE THE HERITAGE OF THE GULLAH GEECHEE PEOPLE, UM, THROUGH EVERY AVENUE. 
          NOT NECESSARILY, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HELP 'EM AT THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY NEED A, I DON'T MEAN TO, ISN'T A DEROGATORY TERM LIKE A PORCH OR NOT. 
          THEY CAN GET THAT THROUGH STAFF. 
          I MEAN, UH, IF THERE'S ECONOMIC THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE TIED TO IT, I, I JUST NEED IT SPELLED OUT. 
          THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          SHE'S SENDING ME SOMETHING THAT I CAN READ LATER. 
          I JUST GOTTA GET MY HEAD WRAPPED AROUND IT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS SENDING IN WAS THE 
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CDC BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION THAT CAME UP IS INSTEAD OF US LIKE TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, IF THERE'S SOMEONE ALREADY DOING IT, TO BRING THEM IN AND LOOK AT HOW THEY'VE, UM, STRUCTURED IT AND SEEN THE SUCCESSES THAT THEY'VE HAD WITH IT, UM, JUST MAKES SENSE. 
          ESPECIALLY WITH, UM, OUR PARTNERS. 
          COLE SAYS, WHAT HILTON NET IS THOUSAND 19. 
          WE'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE STARTED. 
          YEAH. 
          IT SEEMS, UH, NO, YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. 
          I, THIS IS LINEAR. 
          UH, I HOPE I REWROTE AND SAID, LET'S, SO WHERE WE AT NOW, BILL? I THINK, UM, WHERE WE STARTED IS, IS PROBABLY WHERE WE NEED TO END. 
          LET'S EXPLORE THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE COMMITMENT OR WHATEVER THAT WOULD BE. 
          LET'S EXPLORE THAT BECAUSE, UM, DAN IS RIGHT. 
          WE NEED MORE INFORMATION. 
          WE NEED TO KNOW, UH, HOW TO BE, UM, A PARTNER MM-HMM . 
          UM, BECAUSE IF, EVEN IF, EVEN IF THE TOWN SAID WE WANT TO, TO DO IT, I CAN UNDERSTAND STEVEN POINT. 
          I MEAN HOW WE, THE TOWN DOESN'T KNOW, UM, HOW NOT TO BE OFFENSIVE OR HOW NOT TO BE SENSITIVE, HOW TO BE SENSITIVE. 
          SO LET'S, BRIDGET, I THINK, I THINK WE UH, WE COME BACK AND I, AND I HATE WORKSHOP, BUT MAYBE THIS IS A WORKSHOP. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TOWN OF HILTON HAD ESTABLISHED AN INDEPENDENT 5 0 1 C3 NONPROFIT. 
          UM, AND WHETHER THAT'S THE CORRECT NAME OR NOT, I'M NOT CERTAIN I BELIEVE THAT THAT 5 0 1 C3 HAS ABOUT $4 MILLION THAT HAS BEEN, UM, DEPOSITED WITH IT THROUGH STATE FUNDING THAT SENATOR DAVIS WAS ABLE TO, UM, ALLOCATE. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR BLUFFTON TO TRY TO INTERFACE WITH THAT 5 0 1 C3 TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF COMMON GOALS, COMMON, UM, UM, PROGRAMS, ET CETERA. 
          AND, UM, OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN INVOLVED, UM, A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT 5 0 1 C3 AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, TO TRY TO SET UP THE PROPER DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AND THEM. 
          I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, COUNCILWOMAN FRANK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S TWO OF THEM. 
          THERE'S THAT AND THERE'S, UH, ACTUAL COMMISSION UNDER THEIR PLANNING SPECIFICALLY FOR, FOR THAT. 
          BUT THERE IS A SEPARATE 5 0 1 C3 THAT'S GOT A LOT OF MONEY. 
          SO, WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK. 
          I'M GOOD WITH THE WAY THAT READS NOW. 
          IT SAYS THERE'S FOUR WAYS TO SUPPORT YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          COMMUNITY, YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT? YEAH, I THINK THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT PARTNERSHIPS OR INITIATIVES YOU, YOU'LL DECIDE WHEN YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. 
          WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU WANT IT IN THERE AND THAT THE WORDING IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU GUYS. 
          I MEAN, OKAY. 
          WE ARE MOVING. 
          GOOD, GOOD. 
          UH, NEXT ONE IS IMPLEMENTATION OF A CULTURAL DISTRICT STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          QUESTIONS ON THAT? IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE SOCA PLAN? ? SO SHE'S BEEN LAUGHING . 
          SO THIS, THIS IS RELATED TO, UM, OUR RECERTIFICATION AS A, A CULTURAL DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          UM, SO AS PART OF THAT SUBMISSION WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CULTURAL DISTRICT. 
          UM, AND THIS IS JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THAT AND MAKE IT A PRIORITY. 
          DID IT EXPIRE? IT DID EXPIRE, YEAH. 
          IT DID EXPIRE, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND JUST A REMINDER, THAT WAS DONE BY A PRIVATE SET OF CITIZENS THAT CREATED A COMMITTEE AND THEY KNOW THEY LET IT, THEY KIND OF STOPPED WITH IT AND IT EXPIRED AND WE HAD TO WAIT A YEAR AND THEN REAPPLY. 
          YEAH. 
          UNDER THE LAW, UH, TO NOW THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE IS THE COMMITTEE THAT HOLDS THE IS IS THE STEERING COMMITTEE. 
          YEAH. 
          STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THE CULTURAL ART DISTRICT. 
          GOOD TO GO. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          UM, SO THAT THE, UH, NEXT ONE IS ADOPT AN INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY. 
          TOOK, I ASKED BILL WHAT PEST MEANS? BILL THE CHICKENS MEANS MOSQUITOES, I GUESS, OR WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT? BLOOD SUCKERS. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS GOES ALONG WITH, UH, UM, TRANSITION AWAY FROM NON-TOXIC CHEMICALS OR TRANSITION TO NON-TOXIC CHEMICALS. 
          , BIG DIFFERENCE THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN WITH OUR PESTICIDES, HERBICIDES AND STUFF THAT WE'RE USING IN PARKS. 
          SO WHAT THIS WOULD BE IS TO DRAFT 
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TOGETHER. 
          AND HILTON HEDGES RECENTLY DID IT THAT WE, WE'VE BEEN, UM, ACTUALLY IF YOU GO TO ANY TOWN FACILITY, WE'VE NOW TRANSITIONED COMPLETELY AWAY ON ALL OF OUR PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES TO NON-TOXIC, UM, DESIGNATED CHEMICALS. 
          UM, AND THIS WOULD JUST SET AN OFFICIAL, UH, PEST MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WE WOULD, UM, A PO TO ADOPT A POLICY TO OUTLINE ALL OF THAT. 
          AND, UH, GREAT STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN FOR A PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. 
          WE ALREADY DONE, WE, WE JUST LEFT THAT , WE JUST FINISHED WITH THAT. 
          WE JUST FINISHED OUR WHOLE YEAH. 
          NEXT. 
          SO STAFF, ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING? WE DID HAVE A BIG DISCUSSION ON THIS. 
          IS THIS NO, I MEAN THAT'S JUST KIND OF, DO WE CONTINUE WITH THE ADDITIONAL PLANNING AND IDENTIFYING, UH, OPTIONS AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT PARTNERS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. 
          SO DO WE ADD IT AS A, AN ITEM FOR US TO, TO FOCUS ON, TO CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH THAT YOU ALL DISCUSSED OR, UH, WE'D AGREED THAT WE WANTED TO PURSUE IT FURTHER, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          AND YEAH. 
          MORE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FUTURE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST A PLAN. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          ACT, YEAH. 
          SO YOU, OKAY. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT, UH, I THINK THAT COMPLETES OUR, THE WE OUT A FIVE ARE OKAY. 
          THREE OUTTA FIVE. 
          I HAVE SOMETHING THAT I WANNA THROW OUT THERE SURE. 
          TO POT, BECAUSE THIS IS OUR LAST FOCUS. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO ADD THIS IF THE REST OF COUNCIL IS IN AGREEMENT, BUT, UM, TO EXPLORE, AND MAYBE IT'S A FEASIBILITY, FEASIBILITY STUDY, UM, ON A POTENTIAL OUTSIDE SPORTS COMPLEX. 
          UM, I HEAR AT LEAST ON A WEEKLY BASIS THAT WE NEED FIELDS FOR OUR KIDS TO PLAY IN THAT THEY ARE CONSTANTLY ON A DAILY BASIS JUST FOR PRACTICE GOING TO HARDY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          GOING TO RIDGELAND, GOING TO HILTON HEAD JUST TO PRACTICE THEIR SPORTS. 
          UM, TOTALLY AGREE. 
          SO I WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE EXPLORE, UM MM-HMM . 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I'M BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING BEHIND THE SCENES AND I DON'T KNOW THAT NEEDS TO BE A SEPARATE ITEM AS WE HAVE THE PARKS AND REC MASTER, THE PARKS RECREATION MASTER PLAN. 
          WE CAN ADD THAT AS PART OF THE SCOPE THAT WHEN WE START THAT IS TO EXPLORE, UM, THE, THAT, THAT AND WE'LL, UH, AND THAT'S UNDERNEATH, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING, IT'S A CARRY FORWARD. 
          IT'S IN CARRY FORWARD. 
          THAT'S WHY IT'S A CARRY FORWARD FROM THE CURRENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THE GOAL IS TO START THAT NEXT CALENDAR YEAR. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE, IT'S, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT'S PART OF IT. 
          'CAUSE WE  AND DID WE ALREADY HAVE A PROPOSAL OF THAT TOO ON A, UM, POTENTIAL LAND, UM, ACQUISITION THAT WE WOULD'VE MADE? I DON'T KNOW. 
          I REMEMBER KEVIN GIVING SOME, SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD HAVE GONE ON A PARTICULAR TRACK IF WE WERE TO EXPLORE A SPORTS COMPLEX. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING YOU. 
          WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          I REMEMBER A PRESENTATION ON THAT RECREATION IS NOT OMITTED MM-HMM . 
          UM, IN, IN THAT, THAT'S WHY. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR CLARITY. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO I DID HEAR THE WORD, THE, THE VERBIAGE, PARKS AND RECREATION PLAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND IT WILL INCLUDE PATHWAYS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          UH, BLUEWAY, GREENWAYS PATHWAYS, IT, BALL FIELDS, BALL FIELDS. 
          IT'LL LOOK AT ALL OF THAT. 
          IT'LL LOOK AND SAY, WELL HERE'S WHAT'S HERE. 
          HERE'S WHAT THE GAP IS. 
          HERE'S WHAT'S LACKING. 
          HERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO CONNECT SIDEWALKS, HOW TO CONNECT MULTIPURPOSE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT. 
          THEY'LL LOOK AT REGIONAL AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL GIVE US A, UH, RECOMMENDATION, PRIORITY TIMELINE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF OF WHAT THE TOWN COULD SUPPORT AND WHAT, SORRY. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TAB FOUR, THAT'S THE CARRYOVER ITEMS. AND THERE IS ONE THAT SAYS MASTER PARK AND PATHWAY PLAN. 
          BASED ON ALL OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED TODAY, WE WILL GO AHEAD, LIKE I'LL ADD THAT, THAT, THAT IT INCLUDES A COMPONENT ABOUT OUTDOOR SPORTS COMPLEX AND GET THAT EXPLANATION IN THERE. 
          AND THEN ONCE ALL OF THIS IS DRAFTED, THE PLAN, THE COMPLETE PLAN WILL COME BACK TO Y'ALL FOR APPROVAL OR FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT, WE CAPTURED IT ALL CORRECTLY. 
          SO I'M MAKING NOTES AS YOU ADD ALL OF THAT AND WE'LL, LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW IT'S WORDED MARK, MASTER PARK AND PATHWAY PLAN. 
          BUT WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET THAT EXPLANATION IN THERE. 
          ADD THAT SPORTS COMPLEX COMPONENT, STEVEN, WE MAKE SURE AND ADJUST THE WORD YOU SAY MASTER PARK RECREATION. 
          SO OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD PRELIMINARY TALKS WITH THE COUNTY AND ALL ABOUT MICHAEL C. RILEY FIELD. 
          SO ALL THAT, WE DON'T NEED TO ADD ANYTHING. 
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I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS EVER ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT IT IS. 
          IT'S NOT. 
          IT'S NOT. 
          BUT WE'RE ACTIVELY, DOES IT NEED, DOES IT NEED TO BE, I MEAN, SPECIFICALLY OR NOT? I MEAN, TECHNICALLY IT'S NOT OUR PARK, WE CAN'T FORCE THE COUNTY TO GIVE IT TO US. 
          WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO RENOVATE IT. 
          WE'VE BEEN HOUNDING THEM FOR YEARS. 
          UM, BUT I MEAN WE, SO WE, WHY CAN'T WE ADD, IF WE CAN COME TO SOME AGREEMENT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ON HERE. 
          WE CAN ADD IT, BUT IT'S NOT A STAFF CONTROLLED ITEM. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN HOUND 'EM, WE CAN ASK 'EM TO FIX IT. 
          WE CAN ASK THEM TO DONATE IT, BUT IT FALLS TO COUNTY COUNCIL TO ULTIMATELY MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          'CAUSE IT'S THEIR PARK, THEIR LAND. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND, AND IF IT'S A PUSH FOR COUNTY COUNCIL, THAT'S REALLY MORE YOUR SIDE OF, OF THE TABLE THAN STAFF'S SIDE OF THE TABLE. 
          BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED TO STAFF AND THEY'VE, AND WE CAN PUSH ON, BUT IF YOU WANNA PUSH COUNTY COUNCIL TO DONATE OR FIX THAT PARK, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, I THINK IT INVOLVES, I NEED TO BE ON HERE THEN. 
          I MEAN, IT'S UP TO COUNCIL IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ADD IT ON THERE, WE'D BE MORE THAN GLAD TO. 
          IT'S JUST, YOU CAN PUT THAT AS A COUNCIL INITIATIVE, CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          LET ME, SO I KNOW THAT STAFF AND COUNCIL ARE ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. 
          SO WE'RE TALKING, WE WERE JUST SPEAKING PARKS AND RECREATION AND THAT'S A GIANT LEAP. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLORE THESE CONVERSATIONS MORE IN DEBT WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW WITH MC RILEY, THIS COUNCIL'S TRIED TO GET IT FOR FIVE YEARS AND, BUT THEN IT'S THE BALL FIELDS THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE WITH THEM. 
          AND NOW I KNOW THAT HILTON HAD EVENTUALLY WORKED OUT A DEAL WITH THEM TO TAKE OVER ALL THE PARKS ON THE ISLAND AND THEY HAVE THEIR PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          SO IT, IT TOOK SOME MANEUVERING, HOWEVER THEY DID IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EXACT MATCH COMPARED TO WHAT BLUFFTON ARRANGEMENT IS WITH ALL THE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE ON OUR PARKS WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          BUT I, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS WE WANNA GO DOWN A SIMILAR ROAD. 
          SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION THAN ANYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR. 
          IF YOUR DESIRE IS FOR US TO DO ALL RECREATION FOR OUR CITIZENS, INCLUDING ATHLETICS, THE SPORTS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TOPIC. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE A STRATEGIC ITEM OF COUNCIL AS A WHOLE WANTS TO SAY. 
          WE WANNA SET A PLAN ON HOW TO BE OUR OWN RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND TAKE OVER RECREATION FROM THE COUNTY WITHIN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. 
          I'M NOT SAYING WE WANT TO DO THAT, BUT WE DO WANNA LEARN WHAT IT WOULD TAKE AND WHAT THE NUMBERS AND WHAT THE, WHAT IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE WOULD LEARN LOVE TO EXPLORE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, JUST HOW BIG THAT BALL IS AND HOW HARD IT WOULD BE TO BOUNCE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          WELL SAID. 
          NO PUN INTENDED. 
          RIGHT? HOW BIG THE BALL IS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A BIG ONE. 
           EXPLORE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD SEE OVER THE TOP OF IT OR NOT. 
          I WOULD SAY UP WOULD SAY ALMOST IT'D BE EXPLORE CREATION OF A TOWN OF BLUFFTON. 
          RECREATION DEPARTMENT OPERATION OR RECREATIONAL OPERATIONS, RECREATION AND PARKS, RECREATIONAL OPERATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          FACILITIES. 
          'CAUSE BECAUSE IF, IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE IT ON, THERE'S, IT COMES TO HOW IT'S GONNA BE OPERATING BECAUSE THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN JUST WHAT DO WE NEED? IT'S GONNA BE ARE WE, HOW DO WE MAINTAIN 'EM? HOW DO WE, HOW, HOW DO WE STAFF 'EM? HOW DO WE PROGRAM 'EM? AND IS THE COUNTY GONNA GIVE US THE MONEY THAT WE'RE PAYING THEM RIGHT NOW OR DOES IT ON OUR TAX OR DOES IT MORE OF LIKE HILTON HEAD? WOULD THEY PARTNER WITH A THIRD PARTY TO PUT EVERYTHING ON WITH ALLEN REC OR, SO IT'S REALLY MORE OF JUST EXPLORING WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET TO THAT POINT AND DETERMINE IF THAT'S A DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO FULLY MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          AND EVERYTHING THE MAYOR SAID DID TO, I WASN'T SAYING WE'RE GONNA CREATE ONE TOMORROW OR NEXT YEAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          I'M, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY AND MAYBE I WASN'T CLEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          EXECUTIVE IS WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE? JUST STEVE, THE THEM THREE OVER THERE. 
          , , I THINK, I THINK STEVEN TRIED TO PASS THAT BACK OVER THIS SIDE. 
          . 
          NO, NO. 
          WHAT I, WHAT WHAT I MENTIONED ABOUT WHAT BEING THE COUNCIL ONE IS WHEN IT COMES TO ONE SPECIFIC PARK WITH MC RILEY, IF, IF THERE'S A PUSH TO SEE, 'CAUSE I'VE MET WITH SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL, COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'VE MET WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER, THE PARKS DIRECTOR. 
          AND IF THE DESIRE IS TO RENOVATE, I THINK COUNCIL PUSHING TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS A PARK THAT YOU OWN INSIDE OF THE TOWN LIMITS, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BRING IT UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT IS EXPECTED? I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION THAT CAN COME 
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FROM Y'ALL TO YOUR COUNTERPARTS ON COUNTY COUNCIL. 
          'CAUSE THEY HAVE THE BUDGETARY AUTHORITY, JUST LIKE Y'ALL DO, TO DETERMINE WHAT'S IN THEIR CAPITAL PLAN AND NOT, AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO BE IN THEIR CAPITAL PLAN BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, AND IT DID NOT END UP IN THEIR ADOPTED CAPITAL PLAN FOR THIS YEAR. 
          LET ME ASK STEVEN, WHILE WE'RE ALL HERE TOGETHER, UH, AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME TO NO AVAIL. 
          SO MAYBE IF ALL OF COUNCIL WOULD AGREE, WE DO THIS OCCASIONALLY A LETTER COMES FROM THE MAYOR THAT WE ALL SUPPORT TO THE CHAIRMAN OF COUNTY COUNCIL AND JUST SAYING, WE, WE WANT AN ANSWER. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN AFTER THIS FOR FIVE YEARS, WORK WITH US HERE. 
          IS THAT FAIR? WOULD, WOULD COUNCIL BE WILLING TO DO THAT? YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT IT COULD HURT? I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, I, I HAD A, UM, ENCOUNT WITH THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE BASKETBALL COURT WAS ONE OF MY PROJECTS AND THEY DIDN'T MA IT WASN'T MAINTAINING IT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          AND SO I PUSHED ON, UM, ON A FEW OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEY GOT IT. 
          THEY, THEY DID GO OUT AND, AND, AND PAINT IT AND DID SOME REPAIR WORK. 
          SO WE JUST, WE IN THE PROCESS OF BUYING THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT OPENS UP ANOTHER CONVERSATION AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE CLOSER TO YOUR . 
          UM, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S TALK AGAIN A LOT, RIGHT? THE, THE, THE OTHER ASPECT OF THAT IS PEOPLE ALREADY THINK IT'S OUR PARK AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY WE AREN'T FIXING IT UP RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND IT'S AS MUCH, IT'S JUST LIKE THE ROADS, AS MUCH AS WE WANT, SAY IT'S NOT OURS, WE DON'T CONTROL IT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          IT'S INSIDE THE TOWN. 
          PEOPLE SEE IT. 
          THEY THINK IT'S A TOWN FACILITY. 
          THEY HAVE THE SAME EXPECTATIONS OF THAT PARK THAT WE DO OF ALL OF OUR PARKS THAT HADN'T BEEN UPGRADED IN SINCE MY KIDS WERE PLAYING BALL SINCE THE BASKETBALL COURT WAS RIGHT. 
          AND YEAH. 
          AND, AND THAT WAS A TOWN AND COUNTY, YOU KNOW, PARTNERSHIP. 
          SO, AND I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          ESPECIALLY, AND THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH THEM WAS, UM, IF THEY WOULD DO THE BALL FIELDS, AND THERE MAY BE A TALK FOR US TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY PUTTING A PLAYGROUND OUTSIDE THE FENCE. 
          AND TY AND SESSION STANDS WORKING OUTSIDE THE KIND OF LIKE, UM, IN FIELD OF DREAMS AND OUT HERE WHERE THE COUNTY MANAGES THE BALL FIELDS AND WE KIND OF MANAGE THE PARK AREA. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, IT TAKES A PARTNERSHIP TO, TO GET THERE. 
          I'M, I'M, I'M WILLING TO BE ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE THAT MEETING. 
          WELL, LET'S SEND A LETTER. 
          LET'S SEND A LETTER FROM ALL OF US IF Y'ALL ARE IN AGREEANCE. 
          IN AGREEANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT NEED TO BE IN STRATEGIC. 
          WE JUST SOLVED IT. 
          , NO, THE LETTER TEXT. 
          UM, THE LETTER. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE A ELSE. 
          DID WE MISS 1960S SONG? ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A GREAT SONG. 
          AND IT'S MORE FOR YOU, IT'S THE UPDATED, THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN SIXTIES. 
          IT WILL, YES MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T SEE IT. 
          WHAT, WHAT, JUST LIKE WHEN WE DID THE ORIGINAL OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN, THAT'S WHERE THE WHOLE UDO FOR, UH, FORM-BASED CODE CAME FROM. 
          UM, SO AS WE GO THROUGH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY EDIT, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME OUT OF THE OLD TOWN MASTER PLAN UPDATE FOR UDO EDITS, THEY WOULD THEN GO TO HEATHER AND KEVIN AND THEY WOULD RESEARCH. 
          AND HOW DOES IT KNOW IF IT NEEDED TO BE ON THE, THE STRATEGIC PLAN? IT IS. 
          IT'S IN THE CARRY FORWARD. 
          IT'S IN THE CARRY FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          SO EVERYTHING UP HERE IS NOT THE ONLY STRATEGIC PLAN ITEMS, UM, YOU HAVE IN HERE. 
          WHAT'S REALLY KIND OF CARRY FORWARD AND WHAT, UM, STAFF IS PUT TO, UH, ADDRESS WHAT IS UP HERE IS WHAT REALLY CAME OUT IN, UM, INPUT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM Y'ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND KIND OF THROUGH THE WORKSHOP THAT WE DID YESTERDAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CAPTURING EVERYTHING THAT COUNSEL WANTS TO SEE, UM, WITHIN BOTH OF THESE. 
          OKAY. 
          MY LAST QUESTION THEN, AND IT, I DON'T KNOW, IT COULD BE A CARRY FORWARD STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE A TREE MITIGATION ORDINANCE, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF TREE PROTECTION STANDARDS? UM, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE MITIGATION. 
          THAT'S, YOU MEAN LIKE DURING CONSTRUCTION? UM, I MEAN, NOT, I GUESS DURING CONSTRUCTION WE WORK WITH, WE WORK WITH APPLICANTS TO, TO SAVE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE AND TREES THAT ARE PROMINENT TREES. 
          UM, AND THEN DURING CONSTRUCTION WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE REGULATIONS OF HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT THEM. 
          UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE, THE, THE TREE MITIGATION, WHICH WE ACTUALLY JUST HAD ONE GO THROUGH. 
          AND, UM, WE ACTUALLY COLLECTED ABOUT $90,000, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAD. 
          UM, SO WE, WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, WE HAVE THE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE, AND THEN THE FEE AND LIE IN PLACE AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          I, OKAY, 
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GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? NO, I JUST HAD SOME PEOPLE ASKING AND I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO FIND OUT ON OUR WEBSITE AND I, I DID NOT, I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION. 
          IF WE NEED ANYTHING IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN ADDITIONAL, I'M PROTECTING SOME OF OUR TREES, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN CERTAINLY TALK TO HIM OUTSIDE OF THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, IF IF IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT, WE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SOUNDS LIKE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNSEL, WE'RE OKAY WITH THIS LAST ONE? MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THAT'S, UH, THAT'S IT FOR THE SESSION. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE WE END. 
          UM, ARE, ARE WE, ARE WE ENDING OR ARE YOU GOING ON WHAT'S, UH, WE'RE NOT, I'M, I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAPTURED EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO CAPTURE. 
          YES. 
          SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE MADE MY NOTES ON WERE COVERED. 
          UM, I GUESS ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS, AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR A FEW YEARS REGARDING MARISKA SOCA'S, UH, CONCERNS FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          AND I THINK EVERYBODY SITTING HERE HAS THEM, UH, MAINTAINING THE, THE, NOT ONLY THE IDENTITY, BUT AS MANY STRUCTURES AS POSSIBLY FEASIBLE, FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. 
          BUT I FEEL LIKE, AND, AND AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE, TO ME, WE NEED LIKE A TIERS SYSTEM. 
          NOW, AGAIN, WHETHER ANYBODY ELSE AGREES WITH THAT OR NOT, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE SQUIRE POPE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD'VE PROBABLY RANKED IN THE TOP PRIORITIES OF THE TOWN TO TRY TO GO OUT OF OUR WAY TO SAVE THAT BUILDING, WHICH WE DID, OF COURSE. 
          UM, SO THERE'S SO MANY OF THESE STRUCTURES, WE, YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST IMPOSSIBLE RIGHT NOW FINANCIALLY TO, TO SAVE 'EM ALL. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T TRY, WE SHOULD, BUT SURELY THERE MUST BE SOME FROM A HISTORIC PERSPECTIVE, WHETHER IT'S PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THEM OR WHATEVER, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY CARRY A WHOLE LOT MORE WEIGHT THAT WE NEED TO BE, MAN, WE REALLY GOTTA SAVE THIS HOUSE AT ALL COSTS, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW. 
          SO I, I THROW THAT ON THE TABLE AS A, BECAUSE COUNCIL DEALS WITH THIS. 
          EVERY YEAR WE TURN AROUND, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE, MAYBE OUR FOCUS IS OVER HERE, BUT HERE COMES ANOTHER ONE OVER HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH. 
          UM, SO I, THAT'S THE REASON I BRING THAT UP. 
          I, THERE'S GOTTA BE A WAY TO HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THESE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, LET COUNCIL DECIDE, BRING IT TO US, AND SAY, WHICH ARE YOUR TOP FIVE OR 10 RIGHT NOW THAT YOU WANT TO GO OUTTA YOUR WAY TO TRY TO SAVE IMMEDIATELY? UM, THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT. 
          WELL, I THINK EVERY STORY CAN LIVE BECAUSE STORIES DON'T DETERIORATE. 
          THEY DON'T EXPIRE. 
          LIKE ALL OF US AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT MAN MADE, YOU KNOW, WOOD TREES, EVERYTHING HAS EXPIRATION STORIES CAN LIVE FOREVER. 
          JUST LIKE THE BIBLE. 
          TRYING TO SAVE THE STORY IS THE COOLEST THING IN THE WORLD. 
          IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE, TRYING TO SAVE EVERY STRUCTURE WHEN THERE'S NOTHING BUT TERMITE EATING, WORM EATING DUST, WOOD BUGS. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO IT. 
          WE JUST SPENT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS REDOING THE, THE SARAH RILEY HOOKS HOUSE. 
          AND THAT'S A SMALL PLACE. 
          YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T REALIZE UNTIL I LOOKED JUST THE OTHER DAY, IT'S A STORY AND THE HISTORY OF THAT HOUSE WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS, A LOT MORE THAN THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE JUST CAN'T DO 'EM ALL. 
          WE CAN'T, WE, WE, WE CAN SAVE EVERY STORY, BUT WE CANNOT SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ALL WE REALLY HAVE, THERE IS THE STORY AND A REPLICA OF WHAT THE HOUSE WAS. 
          THERE'S VERY LITTLE, MAYBE A DOORKNOB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT THE STORY IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN MAKE LIVE ON FOREVER. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE HARD PART WITH SOME OF THESE STRUCTURES IS YOU DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME, LIKE YOU SAY, SOME WAY OF VALUING THE STORY AND, AND THE STRUCTURE AND SAVING ALL THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT JUST CAN'T BE SAVED. 
          THERE'S NOTHING THERE BUT THE STORY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS . 
          YEAH. 
          EXPLAIN WHERE I AM ON THAT. 
          WE, WE, WE DECIDED SOME YEARS AGO, PROBABLY JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, THAT WE DON'T WANNA BE FORCING A HARDSHIP ON, ON SAYING THAT WE, PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          SO THEN WE START LOOKING INTO WAYS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET FUNDING OR GRANTS THAT WILL SUPPORT OUR, UM, I'LL PUSH TO TRY TO, TO, TO PARTNER WITH THE HOMEOWNER. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT HAS GONE, GONE VERY WELL OTHER THAN, UM, 
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A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS HERE AND THERE, A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE AND THERE, WHICH IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET. 
          SO, UM, LARRY POINT IS, IS IS CLEAR TO ME THAT, UM, THERE'S SOME TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO DO SOME SERIOUS EVALUATION OF WHETHER THE TOWN IS GOING TO ASSIST THESE PROPERTY OWNERS, IF WE ARE GONNA FORCE IT, OR WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET OUT OF IT. 
          I THINK IT'S, I THINK WE TRYING TO AFFORD SOMEONE TO, TO SPEND A MILLION OF DOLLARS WHEN THEY CAN'T. 
          WE, WE REALLY CAN'T AFFORD TO, TO PAY THE MORTGAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S, IT IS TOUGH. 
          WELL, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A, UM, FOLLOW UP WORKSHOP TO DAN'S ORIGINAL POINT ON THE STRUCTURE THAT ARE ON THERE WHERE THERE'S A PRIORITY OF SOME THAT ARE ONES THAT ARE SALVAGEABLE AND SOME THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ON THE LIST IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          UM, BECAUSE THERE'S AN INVENTORY. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE EVER FOLLOWED UP ON THAT FROM OUR LAST STRATEGIC MEETING. 
          I, I THINK TOO, UH, TO MAYOR SKA, UM, SHE, SHE AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IT. 
          SHE'S PROBABLY SPOKEN TO EVERYBODY ABOUT THIS. 
          BUT YOU, YOU KNOW, I, UH, WELL AGAIN, I, I THINK SHE'S TRYING TO BRING SOMETHING NEW, UH, AS A PARTNERSHIP THROUGH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE SHE, IF ANYBODY KNOWS THAT THE TOWN CAN'T AFFORD TO DO EVERY ONE OF THEM YOU DO, UM, SO TO HELP US SAVE MORE STRUCTURES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STARTING TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK IN THE SEEDS. 
          AM I SAYING THIS CORRECTLY? TO FIND FINANCIAL AVENUES TO HELP BRING MORE RESOURCES TO THE TOWN COM IN THE COMMUNITY FOR, TO ENABLE US ALL TO HELP BETTER SAVE MORE STRUCTURES. 
          IS IS THAT WELL SAID, WELL SAID. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          AND WE REALLY, AND I APPLAUD YOU FOR YOUR EFFORT AND WE REALLY NEED MORE OF THAT. 
          SO STEVE, IS MY NEXT CALL BEING OVERLOOKED ARE, ARE THE HOMES OWNED BY BLACK FAMILIES AND IF WE LOSE HAYWARD STREET, CALHOUN STREET, THE SIX PROPERTIES ON THE CORNER OF CALHOUN, WE'RE LOSING OUR CULTURE AND THEY ARE IN DISREPAIR AND THE TOWN CAN'T BUY 'EM ALL. 
          SO STEVEN IS COMING TO YOU SOON, LIKE NEXT WEEK, . 
          LET'S FIGURE IT OUT, FIND SOME MONEY. 
          SO HERE, IF I COULD TO ADD IN, UM, UNDER THE CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN, ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS AN UPDATE ON THE HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY, UH, WHICH THAT, THAT IS UNDERWAY. 
          WE HAD HIRED STANTEC, THEY'VE ALREADY, UH, CAME THROUGH THE TOWN, UH, ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO. 
          UH, DID A LOT OF THE ORAL STUDIES, UH, AND STORIES. 
          UH, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, COMPILING ALL THIS INFORMATION. 
          AND THE GOAL IS THAT THIS IS GONNA COME BACK TO YOU, UH, AS A RESOLUTION FOR, YOU KNOW, ACCEPTING THE, THE RESOURCE SURVEY. 
          UH, WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN, I BELIEVE IT'S IN FEBRUARY OR MARCH, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          SO THE GOAL WAS TO, WE WANTED TO SET THE, GET YOU NEW DATA TO USE, AND THEN FROM THAT DATA, THEN BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT PRIORITY LIST THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO USE OLD INFORMATION. 
          UH, AND WITH THE RESOURCE SURVEY, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE THE, I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD OR FOURTH ONE. 
          UM, SO THE LAST ONE WAS 2019. 
          SO WE'RE HERE SIX YEARS LATER, UM, WITH THIS NEW SURVEY. 
          AND WE'LL HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU AND THEN YOU CAN USE THAT INFORMATION ON HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PRIORITIES WILL COME FROM STAFF TO COUNCIL. 
          YES. 
          ULTIMATELY, IT'S YOUR DECISION. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          OR WE CAN, WHEN WE PRO BRING THE CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE LIST FOR COUNCIL IS TO SAY IT'S FOR COUNCIL TO PROVIDE HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM TIERED. 
          WHETHER IT'S CRITERIA LIKE IT'S ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTRY, IT RECEIVES TOP PRIORITY IF IT'S ON THE, UM, IF IT'S IN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT OR THE FEDERAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, OR IF IT'S ONLY ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S OVER 50 YEARS OLD. 
          Y'ALL CAN, Y'ALL CAN HELP US FOR DEFINE THOSE CRITERIA. 
          BECAUSE IF STAFF IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CREATES THOSE CRITERIA, IT MAY NOT REPRESENT COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES. 
          IT MAY JUST REPRESENT WHAT STAFF IS INTERPRETING THAT COUNCIL MAY WANT TO HEAR. 
          THERE'S 
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THREE TIERS RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WE, WE TWEAKED THOSE PROTOCOLS OR, OR THOSE THINGS. 
          JUST A FEW YEARS AGO WE DID, RIGHT. 
          WE DID, YOU KNOW, UH, I WANNA SAY MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OR THREE OR FOUR YESTERDAY, WHATEVER , THAT'S BEEN ABOUT THREE YEARS. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE USE THAT FOR DETERMINING, FOR CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES TO EITHER COME ONTO THE LIST OR TO GO OFF OF THE LIST. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YEAH, WE DO NOT PRIORITIZE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE GET THAT LIST OR WE GET THAT, UM, FEEDBACK. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY OWNER'S, UM, VISION IS AS WELL. 
          THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE THAT'S WHO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, OF THE HISTORY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S WHO'S MOST, MOST AFFECTED IS THE PERSON THAT OWNS IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A , THEN IT'D BE INTERESTING TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. 
          SO WITH THAT, DO WE NEED TO ADD IN A, I I WOULD ASSUME YOU'RE WANTING TO ADD A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM WITHIN FOR THE STRATEGIC PLAN TO DO A REVIEW. 
          UH, IS IT A CARRY, DO WE JUST CARRY FORWARD THE ONE THAT'S IN THERE? I WOULD DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN JUST CARRY FORWARD WHAT WAS IN THERE FOR THIS TIME THAT WE'RE DOING THE RESOURCE STUDY FOR THAT'S SUPPOSED TO, AND JUST CARRY THAT FORWARD INTO NEXT YEAR FOR THE NEXT STEPS. 
          BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS SUBJECT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNSEL, 'CAUSE WE DID JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS A FEW YEARS AGO AND IT'S COMPLICATED AND IT'S DIFFICULT. 
          I, FOR ONE WOULD LIKE RECOMMENDATIONS AS A STARTING POINT INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO RECOMMEND OF A LIST OF 30 OR 40, WHATEVER IT IS, WHO YOU GONNA GET 'EM FROM? STAFF, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL BE GLAD TO PUT 'EM TOGETHER. 
          I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE BRING, IF OUR PRIORITIES DON'T MATCH COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES, WE'RE GONNA WANT INPUT OR NOT PRIORITIES WHEN WE RANK THEM, IF ONE OF THE ONE THAT ENDS UP ON THE BOTTOM IS ONE THAT COUNSEL DISAGREES WITH, WE'RE GONNA NEED SUPPORT AND INPUT FROM COUNSEL ON HOW WE ADJUST THAT CRITERIA SO THAT THAT HOUSE OR PROPERTY ENDS UP WHERE YOU BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO END UP. 
          I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. 
          I DON'T ARE Y'ALL DONE? IF Y'ALL ARE DONE, WE'RE DONE CLOSING. 
          Y'ALL ARE DONE WITH ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          IT'S TIME TO GO EAT. 
          THEY'LL WRAP UP. 
          WE HAVE A WRAP. 
          YOU GIVE THEM ABOUT WHAT, FIVE, 10 MINUTES TO CLOSE OR YOU, HE SAID HE WAS NO, I THINK WE'RE DONE. 
          YEAH, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY DONE. 
          WE JUST, UM, SO WE'LL TAKE THIS LIST THAT YOU LOOKED AT TODAY. 
          WE'LL GET IT COMBINED WITH THE CARRY FORWARD LIST FROM TAB FOUR. 
          MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE THE DUPLICATES IN THERE. 
          AND THAT WILL BE THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN THAT THE STAFF WILL BRING TO YOU, UM, TO, TO BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, WE CERTAINLY WANNA SAY THANK YOU. 
          UM, ONE THING I DID NOT HEAR MENTION TODAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. 
          I KNOW IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED SOME ON COUNCIL. 
          UM, THERE HAD BEEN MENTION OF A-Y-M-C-A AT ONE POINT TO TRY TO PURSUE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING FOR THIS STEVEN? IS THAT A DIFFERENT ISSUE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE UNDERNEATH THE RECREATIONAL REC. 
          OKAY. 
          OPERATIONS BY THE TOWN. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF YOU COULD CHANGE THAT AND SAY RECREATIONAL OPERATIONS LAB PARTNERSHIPS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU V AND MIKE. 
          FRED WANTED ME TO ASK YOU SOMETHING. 
          HE'S SCARED SINCE Y'ALL SAID THIS WAS 10 YEARS, RIGHT? NORMALLY IF YOU BUY 10, YOU GET ONE FREE. 
          SO DOES THAT MEAN NEXT TIME , YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR OUR TOWN AND OUR CITIZENS AND WE'VE BEEN GOOD TO Y'ALL. 
          Y'ALL BEEN GOOD TO US. 
          THANKS FOR WATCHING BC TV I MEMORY CAMPBELL AND THIS IS BEAUFORD COUNTY MOMENTS. 
          WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FOOD TODAY? THE FOOD HAS BEEN A GREAT PART OF 
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OUR LIFE IN TERMS OF GATHERING FOOD AND PREPARING THEM. 
          OUR FOOD IS BASED ON THE LAND AND THE SEA. 
          THE LAND FOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN RICE. 
          WE DON'T FEEL WE HAVE EATEN DINNER UNLESS WE'VE HAD RICE. 
          RICE WAS MIXED WITH VARIOUS ITEMS FROM THE SEA, LIKE OYSTERS OR SHRIMP. 
          AND WHEN THEY COOKED WITH RICE IN ONE POT, WE CALL IT A RICE OR SHRIMP OR AN OYSTER PERLOW. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE THE WATERMELONS AND THE SWEET POTATOES. 
          SWEET POTATOES WAS ALWAYS EATEN WITH FISH AND FRESH FISH WITH GRAVY AND A SWEET POTATO. 
          THERE IS NOTHING BETTER. 
          OKRA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR FOOD WAYS. 
          WE, WE, WE RAISED THEM AS WELL AS WE PREPARE THEM WITH SHRIMP AND TOMATOES. 
          AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD CALL THAT A GUMBO. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. 
          OKRA, GUMBO. 
          AND SO ENJOY THE FOOD OF THE LOW COUNTRY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY MUCH A PART OF OUR HISTORY. 
          THIS IS EMERY CAMPBELL. 
          THIS HAS BEEN YO BEFORD COUNTY MOMENT. 
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