[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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I'D LIKE TO CALL THE WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22ND, 2025.
CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? I'M CHARLIE WHITMORE.
COMMISSIONER WILL HOWARD HERE.
[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT ]
UH, NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT.THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER 9:30 PM UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE NINE 30 MAY BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR AN ADDITIONAL MEETING DATE AND BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS IN IN ATTENDANCE.
[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES ]
LAST MONTH'S MINUTES.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES? I SO MOVE THOSE TO ADOPT THOSE MINUTES.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? SEEING NONE.
[V. PUBLIC COMMENT ]
UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS, ARE THERE ANY? YES.WHO DO WE HAVE? UH, JORDAN HOLLOWAY.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE SEEN YOU ON THIS.
IT'S GREAT TO SEE ALL YOUR SMILE.
UM, I WON'T GET INTO ALL OF IT 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU KNOW THE RULES, BUT JUST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE PRESENT, UH, BE RESPECTFUL OF COMMISSION.
PLEASE DON'T ADDRESS ANY INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION MEMBERS OR BE RUDE TO THEM.
UH, YOU DO HAVE A TIME OF THREE MINUTES AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE YOU START.
JORDAN HOLLOWAY 10 60 SOUTH INNOVATION DRIVE.
I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA FOR THE RETREAT AT GRANDY OAKS.
UH, JUST WANTED TO START OUT BY SAYING, UM, THANK YOU FOR TIME TONIGHT, AND ALSO SAYING THAT WE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THE, UH, NOVANT, UH, PROJECT, UM, NEAR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, HEALTHCARE FACILITIES ARE LONG OVERDUE AND BLUFFED, AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY EXCITED FOR THAT.
UH, WHAT WE ARE OPPOSED TO IS A DIRECT CONNECTION TO SOUTH INNOVATION DRIVE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS THE ROAD IS PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOMERS ASSOCIATION, AND THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
IN THE LATEST COMMENTS FROM STAFF, IT STATES THAT NOVANT CANNOT OBTAIN A CO UNTIL THE REQUIRED INNOVATION DRIVE SECONDARY ACCESS ROAD IS INSTALLED.
UM, BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS AND YOU CAN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT A SECONDARY ACCESS ROAD.
SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT WHERE THAT IS PLANNED TO BE OR WHERE THAT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED.
AND JUST WONDERING WHY THOSE DETAILS HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED FOR YOU TONIGHT, UM, SINCE THEY'RE CRESTING YOU TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND THE REST OF MY TIME TAKING, TALKING ABOUT THE DETRIMENTS TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR RESIDENTS.
IF A CONNECTION WERE TO BE MADE TO SOUTH INNOVATION DRIVE, UM, IF THE ROAD WAS TO BE CONNECTED TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY, ANY RESIDENT FROM WITHIN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WANTING TO GET TO ONE 70 WOULD USE OUR ROAD TO DO SO INSTEAD OF LAKE POINT DRIVE.
TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, IF THE BLUFFTON, THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY FIVE B REALIGNMENT OCCURS, THE SIGNAL SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION AT LAKE POINT DRIVE AND BUCKWALTER PARKWAY MAY TURN INTO A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT, WHICH WOULD LEAVE OUR ROAD AS THE ONLY SIGNALED ACCESS POINTS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE GRANDI OAKS PUD.
THIS WOULD EQUATE TO THOUSANDS OF TRIPS PER DAY ALONG OUR ROAD AS IT WOULD BECOME THE DEFACTO ENTRANCE INSTEAD OF LAKE POINT DRIVE WITHOUT ANY SIDEWALKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, ALONG WITH A LARGE FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.
PROPERTY VALUES WOULD ALSO BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED AS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD TURN INTO A SPINE ROAD INSTEAD OF A QUIET RESIDENTIAL STREET.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TAKE ALL THESE POINTS INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE APPROVING THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN SO THAT ALL PARTIES INVOLVED HAVE THE INFORMATION REQUIRED TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHERS? NO, SIR.
SEEING NO PUBLIC, NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM, DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE TO THE COMMISSION? OKAY.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MS. CAROLINE LUKE.
UM, SHE WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF, UH, SHE WENT TO FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY FOR HER UNDERGRAD, AND SHE HAS A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND ADMINISTRATION, UM, IN PUBLIC MANAGEMENT FROM TEXAS A AND M, AND SHE'S FROM RICHMOND HILL.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HER.
AND BY THE WAY, I JUST HAVE TO SAY HOOK THEM UP LATER.
[VII.1. Unified Development Ordinance Amendments (Public Hearing): Amendments to the Town of Bluffton's Municipal Code of Ordinances, Chapter 23, Unified Development Ordinance, Article 5 – Design Standards - Accessory Buildings. (Staff - Angie Castrillon) ]
OKAY.THE, UH, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.
IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL HAVE THREE CALLS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCES.
CHAPTER 23, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE, ARTICLE FIVE, DESIGN STANDARDS ACCESSORY BUILDINGS.
AND BEFORE YOU PRESENT, I NEED TO MAKE FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
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SECOND CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.THIRD AND FINAL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SAYING NONE.
THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE AMENDMENTS YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
THIS DID COME TO YOU LAST MONTH FOR WORKSHOP AND IT WAS INITIATED, UM, LAST YEAR BY AN OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC RESIDENT WHO REQUESTED A UDO AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A CARPORT THAT WAS PUT UP WITHOUT ANY BUILDING PERMITS OR A COFA SINCE 2011.
THE UDO, WE HAVE CLASSIFIED CARPORTS AS CARRIAGE HOUSES.
UM, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THE REGULATIONS IN THE UDO, INCLUDING NOT EXCEEDING 1,200 SQUARE FEET TOTAL AND AN 800 SQUARE FOOT FOOT FOOTPRINT, AS WELL AS MEETING DESIGN STANDARDS AND BEING SUBORDINATE TO THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
SINCE THEN, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL WORKSHOPS, UH, BY TOWN COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS.
AND FROM THAT CAME, UH, NEW BUILDING TYPE DESCRIBED AS CARPORT, INCLUDING SIZE, FOOTPRINT, HEIGHT CHARACTERISTICS, ET CETERA, AND A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE.
AND THESE ARE JUST SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS THAT CAME FROM THE WORKSHOPS THAT WE HAVE HELD.
UM, RESIDENTIAL USE ONLY, NO COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY CLASSIFYING CARPORTS SEPARATE FROM SHEDS OR CARRIAGE HOUSES, AND OF COURSE, ADDRESSING SCALE, SIZE, AND HEIGHT, SUPPORTING THE HISTORIC DISTRICT CHARACTER AND AVOIDING OVERWHELMING THE MAIN STRUCTURES.
UM, A FEW MAIN POINTS FROM THE LAST WORKSHOP IS THAT WE DID REDUCE THE MAXIMUM OF FOUR OF 600 SQUARE FEET DOWN TO 400 SQUARE FEET FOR BOTH SIZE AND FOOTPRINT.
HOWEVER, THAT CANNOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BASED ON THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING TYPE AS WELL AS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 18 FEET, UM, UNLESS THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IS LOWER AND A MINIMUM ROOF PITCH OF FOUR 12.
AND JUST ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POINTS THAT CAME AS WELL WAS MINIMIZING STORMWATER RUNOFF IMPACTS DUE TO ADDED IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
UM, SO ON THE LEFT IS RED OF THE CHANGES WE MADE.
SOME OF IT IS JUST CHANGING THE ORDER AND, UM, JUST FORMATTING, BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S MAINLY THE 600 TO 400 AND ADDING SOME DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE'LL GO OVER THEM MORE IN DETAIL ON THIS SLIDE.
UM, A MAXIMUM 400 SIZE CANNOT EXCEED MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE BASED ON THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING TYPE AND, UM, NO TALLER THAN THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE OR 18 FEET, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
WITH THE MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT OF 400, IT MUST BE A DETACHED OR AN ATTACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
ONLY ONE CARPORT IS PERMITTED PER LOT.
THE PLACEMENT MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET BEHIND THE FRONT PLANE OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE, AND IT MUST BE OF SAME GENERAL CHARACTER AS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
NO SOLID WALLS ARE PERMITTED AND NO MORE THAN TWO SIDES MAY BE ENCLOSED WITH LOUVER OR HORIZONTAL PANELS OR SIDING COLUMNS.
POSTS AND ROOF MATERIAL SHALL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE OF ROOF.
THE ROOF MUST HAVE A MINIMUM PITCH OF FOUR 12.
WE ARE LIMITING THE UTILITIES, UM, AND NO INTERNAL PLUMBING IS PERMITTED AND NO, UM, CARPORTS ON COMMERCIAL OR MIXED USE LOTS.
AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGES BEING ADDED TO THE BUILDING TYPES.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, IF THE CAR, IF THE LOT HAS ALREADY MET THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE, THEY WON'T BE ALLOWED TO ADD A CARPORT EVEN IF THEY HAVEN'T MET THAT ONE PER PER LOT REQUIREMENT.
UH, THIS WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
IT'S THE TEXT AMENDMENT REVIEW CRITERIA FROM THE UDO AS GRANTED BY THE POWERS AND DUTIES SET FORTH IN SECTION 2 26 C FOUR OF THE UDO.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THIS APPLICATION AND ITS RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED, RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH AMENDMENTS OR RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED.
SO WE ARE RIGHT NOW AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL.
THE NEXT STEP WILL BE THE FIRST READING AT TOWN COUNCIL.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT DECEMBER 9TH WITH A FINAL READING IN PUBLIC HEARING ON JANUARY 13TH, 2026.
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DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US OR DISCUSSION ITEMS? COMMISSIONER HOWARD? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS NOW.I'M JUST THINKING THROUGH A COUPLE THINGS.
I'LL PUT THE, YOU WEREN'T ON COMMISSION WHEN WE HAD THE WORKSHOP ON THIS, SO I WAS OH, YOU WERE? YES, SIR.
I'M CURIOUS, UM, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CARPORTS THAT DON'T MEET THIS? ARE THEY GRANDFATHERED? YES, THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING, BUT WE WOULD NOT GO BACK AND TRY TO HAVE THEM BE UPDATED.
NOW, ARE THERE A LOT OF CARPORT APPLICATIONS COMING IN BEFORE THIS IS ENACTED? UM, WE HAVE NOT, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE RECEIVED ANY, IF THEY'VE COME IN, THEY'VE BEEN TREATED AS CARRIAGE HOUSES, BUT TYPICALLY THOSE HAVE MORE ELEMENTS TO THEM, LIKE RESIDENTIAL OR THEY'RE TREATED MORE LIKE GARAGES.
SO, SO THIS WOULD BE CREATING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPE.
THE, IF, IF I COULD PIGGYBACK ON PLEASE WHAT YOU WERE ASKING.
UM, THIS WHOLE THING STARTED BECAUSE CARPORTS WERE POPPING UP AND IT WAS STAFF'S DETERMINATION THAT THEY BELIEVED THE UDO.
DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS CARRIAGE HOUSES THAT ADDRESSED SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO THAT MADE A, I'M SORRY, DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS CARPORTS.
IT IS ADDRESSED SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO THAT MADE, BY ITS NATURE A CARPORT, SQUARE FOOTAGE, RESIDENTS WHO HAD PUT UP CARPORTS ARGUED THAT IT'S NOT MENTIONED IN THE UDO OF A CARPORT AT ALL.
AND SO THAT CREATED THIS, THIS QUANDARY.
UM, ARE WE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THE TOWN INTENDING TO GO AFTER THE RESIDENTS WHO BUILT CARPORTS AFTER 2014 AND BEFORE TODAY, ONCE THIS ORDINANCE IS ENACTED? OR ARE WE JUST GONNA LEAVE THAT BE NO, UH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING AFTER ANY PREVIOUS CAR PORTS.
IT'S GONNA BE THIS, THE TEXT AMENDMENT, ONCE IT'S APPROVED INTO THE UDO, IT'S FORWARD.
WHEN WILL IT GO INTO THE U WHEN WILL IT ACTUALLY BE IN ENFORCED? AFTER THE SECOND READING.
SECOND AND FINAL READING FOR TOWN COUNCIL.
THE FINAL RATING IN PUBLIC HEARING, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION AND THAT IS IF COUNSEL DETERMINES THAT IT'S OF AN URGENT NATURE AND THEY CAN DO PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE, BUT I CAN'T SEE THEM DOING THAT ON THIS.
UM, I KNOW THAT CURRENTLY IF YOU BUILD A CARRIAGE HOUSE, YOU CAN PUT A LIEN TO ON THE SIDE OF IT, A LITTLE ROOFED AREA.
DOES THIS AFFECT THAT AT ALL OR IS THAT STILL SEPARATE? THIS IS SEPARATE.
THIS WOULD BE CREATING A DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPE.
AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS, UM, I THINK, I THINK IT'S PRETTY GOOD.
UM, I PERSONALLY HAVE A LITTLE CHALLENGE WITH US BECOMING A LITTLE TOO COOKIE CUTTER ON SOME OF THE STUFF WE'RE DOING.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I THINK, UH, MIGHT NEED TO BE THOUGHT ABOUT BY STAFF IS SHOULD THERE BE A DIFFERENCE IF IT'S BIGGER LOTS? SO WE HAVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE POAS, OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT HAVE A HALF ACRE, THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE, AN ACRE, UM, SAY ON SIMMONS V BUCK ISLAND, SAY WHEREVER ELSE.
LIKE, I HAVE FOUR TENTHS OF AN ACRE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TWO TENTHS OF AN ACRE, WHICH CAN STILL MEET THE COVERAGE BY PUTTING ONE ON TWO TENTHS OF AN ACRE.
BUT IF YOU'VE GOT MORE ACREAGE AND YOU'VE GOT ROOM TO DO IT, SHOULD THERE BE CONSIDERATION FOR ALLOWING AN EXTRA STRUCTURE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
THAT JUST OCCURRED WHILE WE WERE HAVING THIS PRESENTATION.
WHAT, AND, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T REFERENCE THIS BEFORE, BUT WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF COVERAGE BEFORE THE ORDINANCE? DID YOU INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF COVERAGE TO, FOR THIS? WE DIDN'T HAVE A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE.
YOU DID? SO HOW DID YOU, HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT 60% AVERAGE? I THINK EVERY LOT TYPE, BUT ONE EVERY LOT PIPE, BUT TWO IS 60% AND THEN ONE IS 65, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE IS 70.
I'M JUST HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THOSE NUMBERS? JUST KIND OF ARBITRARY.
UM, I KNOW KEVIN DRAFTED ANY TRAFFIC PRIOR TO TAKING IT TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR A WORKSHOP.
AND, UH, AND I THINK HE JUST DID A, DID A STUDY AND REVIEWED OTHER, OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO COME UP WITH A LOT COVERAGE FOR IT.
IT, IT JUST, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME
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WITH, WITH THE MAJORITY OF, OF THE LOT SIZES IN OLD TOWN, UM, AND I, I RECOGNIZE WE'RE DEALING WITH PERCENTAGES AND IT REALLY, BUT WITH THE MAJORITY OF LOT SIZES IN OLD TOWN, IT, IT, IT BOTHERS ME THAT SOMEONE CAN REALISTICALLY PUT MORE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ON A LOT WITH OLD TOWN SQUARE FOOTAGE WISE, UM, WITH MUCH CLOSER PROXIMITY TO, TO THE RIVER AS FAR AS RUNOFF THAN, THAN OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS ON MUCH LARGER LOTS AND NOT AS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE RIVER ARE ALLOWED TO, TO DO.UM, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE REASONS WE CHOSE TO GO WITH A LOT COVERAGE IN ADDITION TO A BUILDING TYPE IS BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T REACHED THE MAX LOT COVERAGE, YOU'RE STILL ONLY PERMITTED TO HAVE ONE CARPORT ON THE LOT.
NO, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANY, WITH, WITH INCLUDING A, A LOT COVERAGE TO, TO REGULATE THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
I JUST QUESTIONED THE 60% AND 70% NUMBER.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A RECOMMENDATION EITHER WAY.
I WOULD SAY, WHY DON'T WE, UM, DIRECT STAFF AND I COULD SEE DAN WRITING NOTES DOWN THERE TO, TO REVISIT THAT WITH KEVIN AND SEE IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND MAYBE YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HIM TOO.
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A GREATER KNOWLEDGE BASE.
YEAH, I, I, FIRSTLY, I WOULD JUST PREFER TO SEE LESS COVERAGE, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE THINGS ARE ALREADY MORE DENSE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN, IN, UM, AND COVERED UNDER THE UDO.
SO YOU THINK OF SOME OF THE ONES ON MORE AND LAWRENCE STREET, I DON'T THINK THEY'D EVEN MEET THE 70% COVERAGE
IF YOU HAVE A NUMBER YOU HAVE IN MIND, YOU CAN MAKE, YOU CAN ADD IT TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION AT TOWN COUNCIL.
I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER TONIGHT, PER SE, UNLESS YOU FEEL YOU, YOU WANT TO WILL I THINK THE DIRECTION NO.
AGAIN, IF I DID IT NOW AND IT IT WOULD, IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ARBITRARY.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAYBE JUST HAVE A, A DISCUSSION OFFLINE WITH, WITH KEVIN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, IF WE COULD POSSIBLY REDUCE IT FROM 60 AND THEN I I DON'T, IF WE'RE DEALING WITH PERCENTAGES, IT SHOULD BE A CONSISTENT PERCENTAGE REGARDLESS OF BUILDING TYPE SAYING THAT SOMEONE IS, IS ALLOWED TO BUILD THE ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE IS BASICALLY IT'S PUT IN AS A HEY, IF YOU CAN'T FIT ANYTHING ELSE, WE'LL JUST LET YOU, WE'LL CALL IT ADDITIONAL.
BUT, AND NOT ONLY THAT, WE'RE GONNA ALLOW YOU TO GO 10% MORE COVERAGE THAN ANY OTHER BUILDING TYPE.
IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH PERCENTAGES, IT SHOULD BE STRICT PERCENTAGE ACROSS THE BOARD, REGARDLESS OF, OF LOT SIZE, REGARDLESS OF OF BUILDING TYPE.
I KNEW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
I DIDN'T EVEN MISS THE, THE CIVIC BUILDING IS 80%.
SO YOU'RE GONNA ALLOW, WITHIN OLD TOWN, YOU'RE GONNA ALLOW SOMEONE THAT HAS A TWO ACRE LOT IS GONNA HAVE 80% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ON IT.
UM, THAT SPECIFIC WOULD APPLY TO SOMETHING LIKE TOWN HALL OR SOMETHING THAT NEEDS MORE PARKING.
RAIN DOESN'T REALLY CARE IF IT'S FALLING ON TOWN HALL OR IF IT'S FALLING ON A RESIDENTIAL ROOF.
SO, UH, I WOULD SAY LET'S DIRECT STAFF TO, UH, REVISIT THAT PERCENTAGE AND, UM, HAVE A, HAVE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE TH THIS IS, WE'RE DOING A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT, SO IT'S MOVING FORWARD EITHER WAY.
SO I THINK WE CAN BE PRODUCTIVE IF WE'LL, AND, UM, Y'ALL MEET AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT PERCENTAGE.
AND THEN I WOULD JUST ASK THAT, UH, STAFF EITHER VISITS OR REVISITS IF IT'S A BIGGER LOCK, CAN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ONES? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY FAIR TO SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT IN A, UM, UNDER A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHO HAS TWO ACRES AND HAS PLENTY OF ROOM TO HAVE A COUPLE OF, UM, BUILDINGS TO NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO DO SOMETHING STUPID LIKE SUBDIVIDE.
YOU WANNA GO TO THE, UM, RECOMMENDED MOTION? YES.
AS LONG AS NOBODY ELSE, ANYBODY ELSE? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WILL YOU WANT TO DO IT? PUT YOUR CONDITION IN THERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORD THE,
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WELL, I DON'T, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.UM, I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT, HERE'S A RUBBER STAMP, YOU CAN GO BUILD IT THING.
THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION AND I THINK WITH, WITH MEETING WITH STAFF OUTSIDE OF IT, THEY'RE GONNA COMMUNICATE THAT TO TOWN COUNCIL, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE.
YOU WANNA, IF YOU WANNA LET, LEMME JUST GIVE THIS A, A SHOT.
UM, I RECOMMEND TO, TO AN APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON MUNICIPAL CODE OF ORDINANCES.
CHAPTER 23, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE ARTICLE FIVE.
DID THAT DESIGN STANDARDS ACCESSORY BUILDINGS AS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT OF TONIGHT'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING GIVEN EXCEPTION TO THE PERCENTAGE OF LOT COVERAGE PER BUILDING? TYPE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE CONCERN I HAVE NOT BEING IN THE AMENDMENT, BUT IF YOU WOULD, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
[VII.2. Novant Health Bluffton Medical Center (Development Plan): A request by Hilton Head Medical Center, LLC, for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan application. The project consists of a three (3) story 243,800 SF hospital with associated drives, parking, landscape, and utility infrastructure. The property is within the Buckwalter Planned Unit Development (PUD) and consists of approximately 17.8 acres identified by the tax map numbers R610 029 000 2487 0000 and R600 029 000 2410 0000 located west of Buckwalter Parkway south of Bluffton Parkway within the Parkway Corners Initial Master Plan. (DP-07-25-019862) (Staff - Dan Frazier) ]
UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO ON NEW BUSINESS IS EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE ROOM.UM, NOVAN HEALTH, BLUFFTON MEDICAL CENTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A REQUEST BY HILTON HEAD MEDICAL CENTER, LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
THE PRO PROJECT CONSISTS OF A THREE STORY, 243,800 SQUARE FOOT HOSPITAL WITH ASSOCIATED DRIVES PARKING LANDSCAPE AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE BUCKWALTER PUD AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 17.8 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MAP NUMBERS IN THE AGENDA LOCATED WEST OF BUCK WALTER PARKWAY, SOUTH OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY, AND WITHIN THE PARKWAY CORNER'S INITIAL MASTER PLAN, MR. FRAZIER.
UH, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR NOVANT HEALTH BLUFFTON MEDICAL CENTER.
IT'S A REQUEST BY HILTON HEAD MEDICAL CENTER, LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A THREE STORY 243,800 SQUARE FOOT HOSPITAL WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE ON A 17.8 ACRE SITE THAT IS ZONED BUCKWALTER, PUD DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE RECENTLY APPROVED, UH, PARKWAY CORNER'S MASTER PLAN.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS SUBJECT TO THE STANDARD SET FORTH IN THE BUCK WALTER PUD CONCEPT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE PARKWAY CORNER'S MASTER PLAN AND UDO SECTIONS 5.3 AND FIVE 10.
UH, THIS IS, UH, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE HAVE BLUFFTON PARKWAY GOING, GOING EAST WEST.
ABOVE IT, WE HAVE BUCK WALTER PARKWAY GOING NORTH SOUTH.
UH, THIS IS LAKE POINT DRIVE THAT TIES INTO A SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION AT BUCK, BUCK WALTER PARKWAY IT SCENARIO OF THE SAME LOCATION.
THIS IS A RECENTLY APPROVED INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
UH, THIS MASTER PLAN ALSO HAD A TIA ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THIS CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS FOR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL.
UM, THE ONLY SITE PLAN WITH ANY, UH, WITH ANY DETAIL WITH THE MASTER PLAN WAS ACTUALLY THIS SITE THEY ANTICIPATED FOLLOWING UP THE MASTER PLAN APPROVAL WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE HAVE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS ONTO LAKE POINT DRIVE.
THERE IS A THIRD POINT OF THE, OUR FIRE MARSHAL BROUGHT UP THAT A CONCERN WOULD BE IF THERE IS A ACCIDENT AT THE SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION OF BUCK WALTER PARKWAY AND, UH, LAKE POINT DRIVE, THAT THAT WOULD CUT OFF ALL, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING WITH IF THE HOSPITAL BEING BUILT WITH ONLY THESE TWO ACCESS POINTS THAT WOULD CUT OFF ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND, UH, HE WAS CONCERNED THAT THERE SHOULD BE, UH, AN, UH, AN ADDITIONAL POINT OF ACCESS.
UH, THE PROPERTY ITSELF NOW BE ABLE TO SHOW UP MORE CLEARLY WITH THE SITE PLAN.
WILL, WILL HAVE AUB TO THE PROPERTY LINE FOR, FOR AN ADDITIONAL CONNECTION POINT IN THE FUTURE.
IT IS CALLED OUT AS A, AS A CONNECTION POINT FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE ADDITIONAL ACCESS POINT WOULD WOULD BE THE, UH, CONTINUATION OF SOUTH INNOVATION DRIVE TO THE INTERSECTION OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
UH, I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THAT PROPOSED INCLUDES A THREE STORY, 243,800 SQUARE FOOT HOSPITAL WITH THE ASSOCIATED DRIVES PARKING, LANDSCAPING, AND UTILITIES.
ACCESS TO THE SITE IS PROPOSED AT TWO LOCATIONS.
AS I POINTED OUT, AN ADDITIONAL
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STUB AT THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE WILL BE TO FACILITATE FUTURE CONNECTIVITY.THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFERS BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES, PARKING AND DRIVING AREAS, AS WELL AS PARKING LOT PENINSULAS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY DSO SECTION 4 23 22.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE, WE HAD AT DRC PRIOR TO COMING HERE WAS, UH, ASKING THE APPLICANT TO, TO BEEF UP THE LANDSCAPING FOR THE RESIDENTS ALONG LAKE POINT DRIVE TO, UH, TO, TO BETTER BUFFER THE PARKING LOT THAT SITS OUT IN FRONT OF THE HOSPITAL.
UM, A TOTAL OF 318 ONSITE PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED, UH, PER BUCK, WALTER PUD, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 365 PARKING SPACES.
UH, PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLETING REQUIRED OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
UH, ONE IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE INNOVATION DRIVE, SECONDARY ACCESS ROAD, AND ASSOCIATED TRAFFIC SIGNAL UPGRADES AT THE INTERSECTION OF INNOVATION DRIVE IN BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
THE SECOND ONE IS INTERSECTION AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL UPGRADES AT THE INTERSECTION OF LAKE POINT DRIVE AND BUCK WALTER PARKWAY.
UH, THE FIRST ONE A AND PROBABLY BRING UP A I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BRING UP A SLIDE IN A SECOND HERE.
HERE IS THE ILLUSTRATED SITE PLAN.
THIS IS THE STUB TO, TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
WE'VE GOT THE MAIN ENTRANCE HERE.
WE'VE GOT A SECONDARY ENTRANCE HERE.
THIS ACTUALLY ALSO WORKS AS A, AS A ROAD THAT WOULD CIRCUMVENT THE PARKING AREA AND, AND COME AND, AND BE AND CONNECT TO THIS FUTURE CONNECTIVITY POINT.
WE HAVE A, UH, WE HAVE A LOADING DOCK AT THIS LOCATION, HELIPAD AT THIS LOCATION, AND WET AND DRY DETENTION AREAS.
PUMP STATION IS LOCATED AT THIS POINT TO PROVIDE, UH, TO A FORCE MAIN THAT'S WITHIN LAKE POINT DRIVE.
THIS IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN, A CLOSER LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, ADDITIONAL BUFFERING LANDSCAPE.
ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING IS, IS ALONG THIS ROUTE HERE.
AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN LAKE POINT DRIVE, IT'S, IT WOULD BE FAIRLY BUFFERED EVEN WITHOUT THIS LANDSCAPING.
THIS IS WHERE THEY BEEFED IT UP A BIT.
UH, WE'VE GOT LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE PARKING LOT.
MAIN ENTRANCE WOULD TAKE YOU INTO TO A LOOP ROAD HERE WHERE THERE'S A, A, UH, ENTRY PO.
THE PRIMARY ENTRY POINT INTO THE HOSPITAL, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION THREE TEN THREE A OF THE UDO IN ASSESSING AN APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THESE ARE THE REVIEW CRITERIA.
THE RESPONSES TO THEM WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
UH, PLANNING COMMISSION CAN IMPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS, TAKE THE, UH, TABLE THE APPLICATION, OR DENY THE APPLICATION AND SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, SHOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS, TOWN STAFF FINDS THE APPLICATION THE FOLLOWING CONDITION SHOULD BE MET PRIOR TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT SHOULD READ PRIOR TO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BEING ISSUED.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE ONE, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLETING ALL REQUIRED OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE NOVANT HEALTH BLUFFTON MEDICAL CENTER.
AND LET ME BE BEFORE TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I WILL JUST JUMP TO THIS, THIS SLIDE HERE.
THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED HOSPITAL.
THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE MADE TO THIS EXISTING SIGNAL.
UM, THIS, THIS ASKING THAT THIS ROAD BE BUILT TO THIS CONNECTION.
THIS IS NOT A SIGNALED INTERSECTION AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW.
INNOVATION DRIVE IN BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
IT WILL BE A SIGNALED INTERSECTION WITH THE HOSPITAL BEING BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
AND, AND, UH, BUCK WALTER PARKWAY.
THEY WILL PUT IN WHAT, WHAT WILL AMOUNT TO A THREE WAY INTERSECTION HERE.
WHAT'S BEING ASKED IS THAT THIS ROAD CONNECTION TO SOUTH INNOVATION DRIVE BE MADE TO THIS INTERSECTION AND WHATEVER REQUIRED SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT TURNED IT FROM A THREE, THREE-WAY TO A FOUR-WAY TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO, TO THE SITE PLAN HERE AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ACTUALLY GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE.
NORMALLY I WAIT UNTIL THE END.
WHICH ONE? THE ONE OF THE, UH, INTER IN THE INNOVATION DRIVE.
CUT THROUGH ALL MY MEMORY, AND YOU MAY HAVE TO CLEAR UP MY MEMORY ON THIS, BUT MY MEMORY ON THIS IS ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD UNTIL NOW, WERE ABOUT THEM PUTTING THAT SECONDARY ROAD AND POPPING INTO BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
THERE WAS NEVER A DISCUSSION ABOUT TAKING INNOVATION DRIVE INTO, I'M SORRY.
WHATEVER THE NAME OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT
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IS, RANDY OAKS.UM, THE CHALLENGE WE'VE GOT IS THE COUNTY ALLOWED THAT DEVELOPMENT TO BE BUILT WITHOUT BUILDING INNOVATION DRIVE WITHOUT HOUSES ON IT.
SO NOW WE HAVE A PRIVATE ROAD AND A PRIVATE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAD ALWAYS PLANNED ON ATTACHING TO.
WE HAD ALWAYS PLANNED ON IT THAT THE COUNTY ALLOWED HOUSES TO BE BUILT ON.
AND IF WE PUT THAT ROAD THROUGH THERE, WE ARE GOING TO FUNNEL TRAFFIC THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A LOT OF KIDS.
AND WE ARE GONNA CREATE SAFETY ISSUES THAT CANNOT HAPPEN.
WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE ANOTHER WAY OUT ABOUT THIS.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THE SECONDARY ROAD BEHIND THE HOSPITAL, WAS TO AVOID DOING THE VERY THING THAT THIS CONNECTION WOULD DO.
AND THAT IS FUNNELING TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE GOT A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT CONNECTING INNOVATION DRIVE THROUGH BECAUSE ONE OF TWO THINGS GONNA HAPPEN.
WE'RE EITHER GONNA SEE A CHILD DIE OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DOUBLE GATED, UM, LIKE WE HAVE OVER AT, UH, THE LANDINGS.
IS IT OVER BY NEW RIVERSIDE WHERE THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN USE THAT ARE THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WHY PAVE A ROAD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN USE IT? IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM WE CREATED, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO MAKE IT WORSE.
UM, YOU GUYS JUST WANTED TO PARK THERE FOR A SEC.
CAN YOU GO BACK A FEW MORE SLIDES AND SHOW THE, THE, UM, THE ROAD NETWORK COMING FROM THE STUB OUT? GO WAIT, GO BACK TO THE MASTER AREA.
UM, SO YEAH, I LIKE CHARLIE, I HAVE A CONCERN AND I UNDERSTAND APPARENTLY THIS WAS THE PRIOR TO ME BEING ON COMMISSION, BUT THIS WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL FOR THIS TO BE, HAVE GOTTEN A STAMP OF APPROVAL, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO I, AGAIN, I I HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WETMORE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE INTENTION.
IF YOU WANT TO SECONDARY ACCESS, UH, FOR LIFE SAFETY ISSUES, I UNDERSTAND PROVIDING A STUB TO BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND CONTINUING THAT INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S GONNA PROVIDE THROUGH TRAFFIC FOR HOWEVER MANY HOMES OR IN GRANDI OAKS AND ALL OF THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES, UM, THE EDGEWOOD AND THE, AND WHATEVER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE OVER THERE.
UM, I I, I DO HAVE AN ISSUE AND HAVE VERY, AND A STRONG CONCERN WITH THAT.
I'M, I'M ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROPONENTS YOU'LL EVER SEE FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY.
BUT THIS, THIS, THIS SCARES ME.
I'M NOT, YOU KNOW ME WELL ENOUGH, I'M MM-HMM.
MR. FRAZIER, UH, TELL ME THAT ROAD THAT GOES FROM THE HOSPITAL YEAH, THAT ROAD THIS, THIS ROAD HERE, THAT, WHY IS THAT NOT BEING BUILT? THE, THE, THE HOSPITAL OWNS THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE.
AND, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STUBBING TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE.
THEY'RE, THEY, THE, THE OWNERS OF THIS, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S UNIVERSITY INVESTMENTS, UM, THEY ARE RELUCTANT TO DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO AN ALIGNMENT OF THIS ROAD.
UM, PRIOR TO BEING, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO MARKET IT WHERE, WHERE A FUTURE DEVELOPER CAN, CAN, UH, DESIGN THAT ROAD THAT BEST, BEST WORKS FOR THE PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY WANNA DEVELOP.
SO, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES.
WE, WHAT WHAT WE HAD TASKED THE APPLICANT WITH WAS PROVIDING A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT, UH, DUE TO THE FIRE MARSHAL BRINGING UP THE POINT THAT, THAT AN ACCIDENT AT THIS INTERSECTION WOULD, WOULD MAKE IT, UH, IMPOSSIBLE TO EVEN ACCESS THE HOSPITAL AT ALL.
SO, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE INTER AND AND BEAR IN MIND THE, THE INTENT WAS FOR INNOVATION DRIVE TO ALWAYS CONNECTED THAT INTERSECTION.
IT WAS CALLED IN SOUTH, IT WAS UNTIL THE COUNTY APPROVED.
INNOVATION DRIVE WITH HOUSES ON IT.
THAT'S WHAT'S THROWN A WRENCH IN.
AND WE ALSO HAVE PRIVATE ROADS CONNECTING TO PUBLIC ROADS ALL THE TIME, SO OH YEAH.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADS.
ANY OTHER, SO I SHARE YOUR CONCERNS, BUT, BUT, UM, BUT THIS, THIS IS THE, WHAT'S BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE YOU, THEY PROVIDED THEIR, THE SECONDARY ACCESS ROUTE THAT, THAT WE REQUIRED.
UH, UH, THEY HAD AN OPTION ON IT.
I I, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GO BACK.
I'LL LET THEM SPEAK ON THAT, BUT, BUT, UH, AS A STANCE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING AND IT'S, AND STAFF IS IN FAVOR OF THIS CONNECTION AS A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S MOVE FORWARD, UM, TO THE EFFORT.
DID YOU CONSIDER, I'M SORRY, DID YOU CONSIDER ANY TYPE OF EVA, UH, OUT TO THE, UH, BOOK CULTURE PARKWAY? THAT'S WHERE MY HEAD'S AT.
IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A SECONDARY ACCESS FOR, FOR LIFE SAFETY, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE WAY TO DO IT.
THAT THERE'S AN ACCIDENT AT THAT INTERSECTION.
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PROPERTY LINE EXTENDS.WELL BE WELL BEYOND THE INTERSECTION.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT YOU, YOU COULD DO A GATED EVA THAT, THAT'S ONLY AVAILABLE THERE FOR IT.
IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR, FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN EMERGENCY USE.
WAS THAT CONSIDERED AT ALL? UH, I LIKE THAT.
I THINK, I THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS.
IT'D BE A HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
UH, WE, WE DIDN'T, WE AL WE ALWAYS CONSIDERED IT A, A, AN OPEN ROAD, NOT A, NOT A LIMITED ACCESS ROAD FOR, FOR A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT.
IT ALSO PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS EMERGENCY.
WELL THEN, WHICH IS IT? IT, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THAT THE INTENT WOULD, I THOUGHT THIS DIRECTION CAME FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL AS A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE FOR A SEC.
BUT NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S CONVENIENCE FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE HOSPITAL, WHICH ISN'T, IT'S NOT CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE TO, IT'S, IT'S FOR ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL, WHETHER IT'S AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE OR FOLKS THAT ARE, ARE GOING TO THE HOSPITAL.
THEY WOULD BE CUT OFF FROM ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT AT THE INTERSECTION, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
I HATE THE ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT I, I DON'T FEEL LIKE ALL I I DON'T FEEL LIKE VERY MUCH CONSIDERATION WAS GIVEN TO THIS.
I THINK IT WAS JUST, I THINK THAT WAS THE EASIEST STRAIGHT LINE THAT, THAT CONNECTING TO THE, THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
BUT IF THE CONCERN IS PRIMARY CONCERN IS LIFE SAFETY, SECONDARY ACCESS, I THINK THERE SHOULD, THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT THAT COULD BE, SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
BUT EVEN, EVEN PLUGGING ALONG, EVEN IF WE ACCEPT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T, BUT EVEN IF WE ACCEPT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO GET IN AND OUTTA THE HOSPITAL, IT STILL DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, HOOK THE ROAD UP TO INNOVATION DRIVE AND THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
CONNECTED TO GRANDY OAKS DOESN'T PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE HOSPITAL.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I THAT CONNECTION WILL HAUNT ME IF IT HAPPENS US.
I DIDN'T WANNA SPEAK TO YOU OR FOR YOU.
WELL, I JUST THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO GET AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE DOWN INNOVATION DRIVE ALL THE WAY BACK UP TO LAKE POINT DRIVE VERSUS MAKING A CUT TO YOUR RIGHT OFF BUCK.
WALTER, THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN COME FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CONNECTION.
LIKE HERE, WELL, FURTHER UP, FURTHER UP IT WOULD'VE TO BE A DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY.
I MEAN THE, UH, GET AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT AND, AND YOU COULD, AND, AND BELIEVE ME, I THINK IT WOULD BE EASY TO GET AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FOR A DEDICATED EVA LANE AND, AND GO AND, AND YOU BASICALLY HUG THE WETLAND AND YOU HAVE A GATED EVA LANE THAT'S IT'S GRASPED.
IT'S, IT'S IT'S GRASPED, BUT BUT IT'S ON, IT'S REINFORCED.
I LIKE WHAT WE HAVE ABOUT THE MINI STORE.
IT MIGHT BE A CONCERN IF IT'S, IT'S THE INTERSECTION ACCESS AND THE INNOVATION DRIVE IS, IS NOT OKAY.
IT'S NOT GETTING PEOPLE TO THE HOSPITAL.
YOU, I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, IT'S JUST YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINE.
WELL, UM, THE, UH, WE GAVE 'EM A COUPLE OPTIONS ON, ON WANTING SECONDARY ACCESS POINT.
THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING IS, IS IS IT FOR JUST EMERGENCY VEHICLES ONLY OR IS IT FOR PUBLIC ACCESS? I THINK FIRE MARSHAL'S CONCERNS THAT THEY COULD BE RESOLVED WITH, UH, EVA.
DON'T KNOW IF ONE CAN GO IN, IN THIS LOCATION.
UM, I, I I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TALK, UH, THAT YOU HAVE CONTINUED THE DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPER.
UM, BUT UH, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UH, ARE YOU COOL IF I COME UP PROVIDE SOME? ABSOLUTELY.
I'M WITH KILL HORN TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UH, FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN AS WELL FOR THE IMP.
SO FIRST QUESTION WAS EMERGENCY ACCESS.
CAN WE JUST BUILD AN ACCESS IN THE ROAD THAT GOES FROM LEFT TO RIGHT TOWARDS THE HOSPITAL THAT THEY'RE BUILDING THE STUB TO? WE'RE LIKE, CAN WE KEEP THAT AS DIRT OR LIKE A PRELIMINARY PAVING, UH, WITHOUT A BIG CROSS-SECTION, IF IT'S JUST GONNA BE LIKE GATED FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES? UH, THE COUNTY TOLD US NO TO THAT.
SO THERE'S ONE QUESTION THERE THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS, THE COUNTY, UH, AND THAT WOULD BIG COUNTY STAFF.
WE LOOKED AT A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT ON BUCK WALTER PARKWAY.
LET'S SEE, DO I, CAN I GET A MOUSE? CAN Y'ALL SEE MY MOUSE? LIKE UP HERE? MM-HMM
SO WE LOOKED AT A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT THERE, SECONDARY ACCESS.
UM, AND WE COULDN'T GET THE TURN LANE AND TAPERS TO MEET THE, THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COUNTY.
SO WE WERE ALSO TOLD NO TO THAT PERSPECTIVE.
OTHER INFORMATION WE GOT FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY, I MEAN THIS GOES BACK, THEY SENT US A MAP THAT CONNER DID A GREAT JOB OF OVERLAYING FROM THE NINETIES OF THE GRANDE EIGHTS PUD SHOWING THIS CONNECTION IN THE PUD.
SO THE COUNTY DIRECTED US CONNECTION TO INNOVATION DRIVE.
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WHY THAT'S THERE.UH, WE, WE HAVE OPTIONS, UH, THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO DO.
UM, AND IT'S PROVIDING THAT SECONDARY ACCESS, LIKE THE, I I'LL CALL IT THE, THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT GOES FROM SOUTH INNOVATION.
SO WE'D ONLY BUILD SOUTH INNOVATION TO A LITTLE BIT.
IT WOULDN'T CONNECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WOULD GO OVER, BUT THAT'S AGAINST THE IMP THAT JUST WAS APPROVED FOR THE SITE.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD CHANGE UP OR WHATEVER.
BUT WITH THAT IMP THAT'S APPROVED, NOW WE'RE FOLLOWING THE IMP THAT WAS JUST APPROVED FOR, FOR THE SITE.
UM, SO WE'RE WILLING TO, TO WORK WITH, WITH WHATEVER OPTIONS.
UH, WE'VE PRESENTED ALL THIS, LIKE THIS WAS A BIG, BIG DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WITH, UH, TOWN AND COUNTY STAFF.
UM, THERE'S ALL GIS EVERYTHING SHOWS THAT EASEMENT OF THE INNOVATION DRIVE, UM, CONNECTION AS WELL.
UM, SO WE'RE FOLLOWING THOSE MAPS.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THE, THE PUD FROM, LET ME SEE THE DATE ON THIS THING.
UM, YEAH, IT'S IN LIKE FROM THE NINETIES, 98 I THINK.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO FOLLOW HERE, UH, FROM THE TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE.
SO WE INITIALLY PROPOSED IT, DAN HIT IT VERY WELL.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER SECONDARY ACCESS.
WE EVEN TALKED TO THE COUNTY ABOUT COULD THE POTENTIAL OF OLD MILLER ROAD AND THAT CONNECTION THAT GOES TO REALLY, UH, COULD THAT COUNT AS OUR SECONDARY, BUT THE COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON OLD MILLER ROAD EXTENSION, UM, AS A SECONDARY ACCESS.
AND THE CONCERN WAS THE DISTANCE THERE TOO.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S HOW WE LANDED, UH, HERE WITH INNOVATION DRIVE AND THAT DIRECT CONNECTION.
IS THAT THE STRAIGHT CONNECTION? IT IS, BUT WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS, UH, ESPECIALLY THAT FRONTAGE ROAD AND, AND TALKING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND TRYING TO KEEP THAT, AS YOU SAID, IT COULD BE A GATE THAT, THAT AMBULANCE, FIRE TRUCK, WHATEVER THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, BUST THROUGH IT.
WELL, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN, THAT WAS DONE IN OH EIGHT BECAUSE I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN IT WAS DONE.
THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I RECALL SEEING THAT CONNECTOR ROAD.
BUT THAT WAS TO BE A CONNECTOR ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LAKE POINT, NOT A ROAD WITH HOUSES ON IT.
I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE THINK THIS THROUGH AND THIS BECOMES AN EMERGENCY ACCESS, EVEN JUST FOR AMBULANCES, DO YOU THINK AN AMB AMBULANCE AND AN EMERGENCY'S GONNA BE GOING FIVE MILES AN HOUR DOWN THAT ROAD? NO.
THEY'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO GET 'EM TO THE HOSPITAL.
SO WE'RE CREATING ANOTHER EMERGENCY POTENTIALLY BY DOING THAT CUT THROUGH.
I JUST DON'T, WE'VE GOTTA FIND ANOTHER WAY.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE, WE'VE WORKED THROUGH, LIKE WE, WE REALLY DID.
WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS, A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS, A LOT OF CALLS WITH THE COUNTY AND THIS IS THE DIRECTIVE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE GOT.
SO THE OTHER OPTION WE HAVE, I WILL SAY THAT'S, THAT THE COUNTY FEELS THAT WAY, BUT YOU'RE NOT IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
THEY, THEY PLAY A ROLE TOO IN THE IMPROVEMENT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THEM UP.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT FURTHER AND IF IT COULD EVEN BE SOMETHING WE DO, WE COULD BUILD A STUB HERE, NOT DO THIS CONNECTION AND DO THIS ROAD, BUT WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THE REEDS THROUGH THAT, THAT COMPONENT.
AND THAT CAN BE A SECONDARY CONNECTION.
WE'VE GONE OVER THAT WITH THE REEDS AND THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN AND ALL THAT.
I'M NOT BEFORE THE, THE, THE COUNTY UNDERSTAND THAT.
THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S A LOT TO THIS HONESTLY, BEFORE THIS PRESENTATION.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING WHEN WE WERE AT DRC AND AND MEETINGS BEFORE THAT.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING ALL ALONG.
AND NOW WE'RE TALKING JUST A STRAIGHT CUT THROUGH TO INNOVATION, WHICH IS KINDA BLINDSIDED ME.
WELL, CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION TOO? I MEAN, YOU SAID YOU'VE WORKED WITH COUNTY.
HAVE YOU EXPLAINED TO COUNTY THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT YOU'VE GOT AMBULANCES SPEEDING THROUGH TWO RESIDENTIAL STREETS? WE ABSOLUTELY RECOGNIZE THAT WITH THEM AND THE COUNTY.
THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT IT, BUT THEY'RE STUCK TO WITH THE PREVIOUS PUD THAT THEY HAVE, THAT'S THE COUNTY PLANNING, UH, THAT SHOWS THAT CONNECTION.
THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WE HAVE THIS, THIS IS OUR APPROVED PUD AND THAT'S THE CONNECTION SHOWN.
THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE STICKING TO FROM PLANNING STAFF.
WELL, SO AT THIS POINT JUST, I'M, I'M SORRY CHARLIE.
SO AT THIS POINT, IF WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STICKING TO THE MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN THAT SHOWS THE UNIVERSITY INVESTMENTS PARCEL WITH A ROAD GOING THROUGH IT.
AND YOU'RE OFFERING TO, TO JOHN REED, HEY, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA BUILD THIS ROAD FOR YOU.
WE'LL SEE WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY MORE OR LESS ABOUT THAT.
THEY'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ON WHAT THE REEDS OR UNIVERSITY INVESTMENTS ARE SAYING TO THAT.
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BASICALLY CAME DOWN TO WE HAD THAT OPTION.UH, IT WAS EMERGENCY ACCESS OR WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
'CAUSE THIS PART FALLS IN THE COUNTY.
SO SORRY TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTIES, JUST WHERE WE LANDED WAS, CAN WE DO SOME TYPE OF BASE LAYER PAVING? 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A PRIMARY ACCESS OR A HEAVILY TRAVELED ROAD FOR THE HOSPITALS THAT'S GOING.
AND THE COUNTY WANTED TO KIND OF A THICKER CROSS SECTION AND THAT, THAT WETLAND CROSSING THERE ON SCREEN JUST OFF PAST OUR STUB, UM, WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE BROUGHT UP AS A, AS A CONCERN.
WELL, YEAH, I MEAN IF YOU'RE GONNA, IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A, A ROAD TO SUPPORT EMERGENCY VEHICLES, UH, FIRETRUCK BEING ONE OF THEM, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A BASE COURSE AND A SURFACE COURSE.
JUST PUT IN A EIGHT INCHES OF GABC AND CALL IT A DAY.
THIS ACTUALLY GOTTA BE A FIRE LANE ROAD.
SO WE'LL WORK WITH THE RES TO BUILD THAT ROADWAY.
SO WE'LL STILL HAVE THE FOURTH LEG TO INNOVATION.
IT JUST WOULD NOT EXTEND DOWN TO THE PRIVATE, PRIVATE NEIGHBORHOOD.
'CAUSE I THINK WE ALL NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DIGEST THIS.
LET'S, LET'S GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION ITSELF.
LET'S WALK THROUGH ALL THAT, SEE WHAT OTHER, UM, DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO HAVE.
AND THEN LET'S FINISH UP BACK HERE AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO SOMETHING.
NOW DO, DOES THE DEVELOPER HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO KINDA OUTLINE THE PROJECT FOR US? SPEAK TO IT, FILL SOME TIME.
I'M THE REGIONAL, UH, EXCUSE ME, I DON'T LIKE MINE.
UH, CHIEF NURSING OFFICER AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER FOR THE HILTON HEAD AREA TO INCLUDE COASTAL CAROLINA TON AND HILTON HEAD.
SO I'VE BEEN WITH NOVANT FOR 24 YEARS.
I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR EIGHT WEEKS.
UH, SO CERTAINLY DON'T PRETEND TO BE THE EXPERT WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THIS AREA.
BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS IN THE EIGHT WEEKS AND CHOOSING BLUFFTON AS MY HOME, IS THAT THERE IS CERTAINLY A NEED AND CONTINUING NEED FOR ADVANCED HEALTHCARE IN THIS AREA.
UM, SO ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE IS, IS FOR ME, IS MY PASSION.
UM, IT'S DELIVERING THE CARE WHEN AND WHERE YOU NEED IT TO PREVENT YOU FROM HAVING TO CROSS A BRIDGE OR, UM, TO JOIN THE, THE HIGHWAY TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE CARE WHEN, QUITE FRANKLY, IF YOU'RE HAVING A STROKE, YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO ACCESS CARE WITHIN THE NEXT 10 MINUTES, RIGHT? SAME THING IF YOU'RE HAVING, UM, A CARDIAC EVENT.
SO FOR US, AS WE LOOK AT, UH, THIS BUILDING, WHAT IT WILL BRING TO THE COMMUNITY OTHER THAN, AND CONTINUED ECONOMIC, UM, PARTNERSHIPS, IS THE ADVANCED CARE FROM AN IMAGING STANDPOINT, CARDIAC SERVICES, MEDICAL, UM, SERVICES, EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT TO GO ALONG WITH THE OTHER FREESTANDING ED THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING.
SO AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT, UH, HEALTHCARE AND IT EXPANDS, IT STARTS WITH THAT PRIMARY CARE, RIGHT? IT STARTS WITH YOUR SPECIALIST.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO KEEP PATIENTS OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS SCIENTIFIC, UH, STUDIES COMPLETED THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE HOSPITAL, UH, THAT LEVEL OF ACUITY AND THE CARE THAT WE DELIVER IS GOING TO BE VERY TIME SENSITIVE AND WE WANNA TRY TO HELP YOU STAY OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO ALONG WITH THIS, WE'RE ALSO DOING A LOT OF WORK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND WORKING ON A LOT OF THE HEALTH EQUITY AND DISPARITIES TO TRY TO PARTNER ALONG WITH THAT TO REALLY MAKE SURE FROM BLUFFTON AS A WHOLE, THAT IT'S A HEALTHIER, MORE DIVERSE COMMUNITY.
SO I'VE BUILT HOSPITALS BEFORE WITH, UM, WITH NOVANT.
I HAVE, I STARTED OFF AS A NURSING ASSISTANT FOR FIVE YEARS, AND SO I'VE REALLY KIND OF SEEN IT FROM THE GROUND UP.
I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE DO AT NOVANT.
I'M PROUD OF HOW WE CARE FOR OUR PATIENTS, HOW WE CARE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, AND EXCITED TO BE HERE WITH THIS TEAM AND TO BE ABLE TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF.
I, YEAH, IT'S, I I LOVE IT THUS FAR.
SO, AND, AND COMMISSIONERS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE RAISED IN DRC HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ON THIS.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE DRIVE TO THE LEFT, UM, USED TO GO INTO THE PARKING LOT AND THEN MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN TO GO AROUND.
THEY REALIGN THAT TO MAKE IT MORE OF A, MORE OF AN ACCESS ROAD OR A SURROUND ROAD.
UM, I'M NOT SAYING YOU GUYS ARE ARE BEING CONTRARY, IT'S JUST WE'RE TASKED AS CITIZENS WITH COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S SAFE FOR ALL.
AND I MEAN, YOU HEARD AND, AND, AND HE MAKES A GOOD ARGUMENT.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE POA OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS HERE TONIGHT AND HE HAS CONCERNS, AND I DON'T BLAME HIM AND THE NEIGHBORS FOR HAVING CONCERNS.
YOU KNOW, THE REALTORS DIDN'T TELL HIM THAT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO POP THROUGH.
AND REALLY IN ALL HONESTY, PLANNING COMMISSION IN, IN THE COUNTY SHOULD
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NOT HAVE LET THAT BE BUILT THAT WAY.AND SO NOW IT BECOMES OUR PROBLEM.
AND BY OUR, I MEAN OUR PROBLEM, I, I APPRECIATE THE COLLECTIVE WHOLE.
UH, AGAIN, I WAS A CRITICAL CARE NURSE AND ALSO I HAD, UM, THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING IN A PEDIATRIC, UM, CRITICAL CARE UNIT.
THE LAST THING THAT ANYONE WANTS TO SEE IS A HURT INJU INJURED CHILD, OR PARTICULARLY A FATALITY.
SO I THINK OUR INTEREST EVEN IN BRINGING A, A HOSPITAL TO THE AREA IS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER THROUGH THAT WITH THE BUILD.
UM, I'M HOPEFUL, UH, I THINK AS WE ALL ARE IN OUR SHEER MASS THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT, IS THAT WE CAN, WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, AND THAT'S, I MEAN, NOT THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT, BUT CERTAINLY JUST FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH THIS PROJECT IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS, UM, IS LOOKING AT THAT PASS THROUGH IF WE COULD, IS THE RES I SPEAKING CORRECTLY AND TRYING TO MAKE THAT, THAT AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO BE ABLE TO, TO GET THE ROAD.
UM, I WOULDN'T WANT IT THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M PROBABLY NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY THAT, BUT I'M, I'M PRETTY TRANSPARENT.
I AM WANT TO GET, UM, I WOULD BE ON YOUR SIDE FIGHTING IF IT WAS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY KIDS ARE IN THEIR TWENTIES, BUT I I WAS THAT MOM THAT WAS STANDING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T HAVE LIKE THE LITTLE YELLOW SIGN AT THE TIME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, FUSSING AND CUSSING SOMETIMES EVEN ABOUT PEOPLE DRIVING TOO FAST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE MORE BUSINESS IN THE HOSPITAL.
WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT, THAT WE WERE HOLDING UP A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR, FOR, UH, THE HOSPITAL UNTIL THE ROAD IS BUILT.
IF THERE IS AN AGREEMENT MADE BETWEEN THE OWNERS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND THE HOSPITAL, I'M PROVIDING AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE STILL GETS YOU OUT TO THE SAME INTERSECTION AT INNOVATION DRIVE AND, AND BLUFFTON PARKWAY.
UM, AND PROBABLY HOW, LET, LET ME ASK THIS, UM, OF REALLY TO GET A SENSE OF COMMISSION.
UM, WE BUILT WITH A, WITH A, UNDER A SEPARATE PROJECT AS WELL.
MAYBE, MAYBE THE WAY WE CAN APPROACH THIS IS IF WE'RE COMFORTABLE IN APPROVING THE PROJECT WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE SECONDARY ACCESS NEEDS TO BE MADE AS PER THE FIRE CHIEF, BUT IT MAY NOT BE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ON INTER INNOVATION DRIVE.
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE CRAFTED SOME OF THESE BEFORE.
YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M, RICHARDSON WAS HERE TO HELP US WITH THE LANGUAGE OF EMOTION.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I I LIKE SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT HERE, I'M NOT, I'M, I'M NOT THINKING, I'M WANTING TO DENY THIS PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I'M THINKING OF THE, THE BEST WAY TO CONDITION YEP, UNDERSTOOD SECONDARY ACCESS PRIOR TO CO AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CIRCULATION, THE BEST WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO THE HOSPITAL IS ALONG THAT FRONTAGE ROAD AND NOT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UM, SO THAT'S THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDED MOTION PROBABLY NEED TO ADD A CONDITION THAT IT CANNOT BE THROUGH, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH HOUSES RUNNING IT OR HOWEVER WE NEED TO WORD IT.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOT SPECIFIC ABOUT THE ROAD HERE.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE SAYING IS REQUIRED OFFSITE IMPROVEMENT.
WELL, LET ME ASK A QUESTION THOUGH.
WE, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT BUFORT COUNTY HASN'T APPROVED THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUGGESTED.
AND IT'S UNLIKELY THAT REED IS GONNA WANT TO BUILD A ROAD FOR SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TELLING HIM HE'S GONNA BUILD A ROAD FOR IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG SHOT.
WELL, LET'S, LET'S WALK THROUGH THIS FOR JUST A SECOND, DAN.
THERE'S, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BUILD THE ROAD, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO THE, THE TIME TO, TO PUT A STRONG CONDITION ON HOW THAT ROAD IS BUILT IS WE REQUIRE, AND I'M JUST SUGGESTING WE REQUIRE A SECONDARY ACCESS PRIOR TO CO AND THEN WE CAN STIPULATE THE, THE, ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BUILD THAT ROAD, WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN CONNECT TO INNOVATION DRIVE OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT WE SEE THAT PARALLELS THE PARKWAY.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU, DAN? IS THAT, DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT OR NO? UH, I'M SAYING THAT, THAT THE TIME TO REALLY PUT CONDITIONS ON HOW THAT ROAD IS BUILT IS WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH, WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BUILD THAT ROAD.
BUT WE CAN MOVE THEM FORWARD ON THEIR PLAN FOR THE HOSPITAL.
WITH A CONDITION THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A SECONDARY ACCESS.
AND THAT'S HOW IT READS RIGHT NOW.
AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THAT A, WHEREVER THAT ACCESS IS GONNA BE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME
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BACK FOR ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO DO THAT.BUT I WOULD WANT TO STIPULATE THE SECONDARY ACCESS CANNOT BE THROUGH THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS, IS REALLY ONE.
THE OTHER ONE WELL, WELL, WELL, INNOVATION DRIVE INNOVATION DRIVE UP BECAUSE, BECAUSE LAKE POINT IS BUILT THE WAY THAT IF THEY HAD BUILT INNOVATION THAT WAY, THIS WOULDN'T EVEN BE A DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
WE STILL, BUT WE HAVE STIPULATION YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ROAD AND SECONDARY ACCESS CHIME IN WITH ANYTHING IS WHERE WE STAND.
THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT.
YOU COULD BUILD THAT, THAT ROAD.
IF THAT ROAD HAS NO UTILITIES ON IT AND IT'S JUST A ROAD, I CAN BUILD THAT ROAD IN THREE MONTHS.
JUST A QUESTION FOR YOU, JUST, AND I WON'T HOLD YOU TO IT.
HOW LONG BEFORE YOU THINK YOU'D BE GOING FOR C OF O IF YOU'D TURN THE FIRST SHOVEL TOMORROW.
TOMORROW?
UM, MY CONCERN OVERALL IS THE ROAD BEING A SEPARATE PROJECT.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE IT TIED TO THIS PERMITTING PROCESS.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING TEMPORARY WE CAN DO WITHOUT UTILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, EVEN JUST DO SOME TYPE OF LIGHTING, SOME TYPE OF TEMPORARY, WE'LL GLADLY MAKE THAT CONNECTION AND WORK WITH THE REEDS.
WE'RE ALREADY IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT ACQUIRING THAT LAND.
BUT IT'S AN EARLY CONVERSATION, RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT QUITE HARD.
THERE IS NO CLOSING IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S BEING WORKED THROUGH AND EVEN AT THAT POINT, ON BEHALF OF NOVANT, LAYING OUT A ROAD OF SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T PUT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN TOGETHER FOR, WE DON'T WANNA DISCUSS, SLAP IT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
WE COULD WORK WITH HOW WE NAVIGATE THAT, WHETHER IT BE WITH THE REEDS OR WITH NOVA.
LET, LET, LET ME, LET ME PRESENT THIS.
I'VE, I'VE GOTTEN A SENSE FROM A FEW OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT, UM, THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
IF THERE'S A CHANCE THIS ROAD'S GONNA GO THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU IF THIS CONVERSATION GOES THE WAY THAT SECONDARY ACCESS BUT CANNOT BE THROUGH? WE'RE, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.
WE WERE USING THE MEMES THAT WAS IN FRONT OF US AS THE IMP WAS ADOPTED AS IT WAS, AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.
THAT SEEMED TO BE THE ONLY ACCESSIBLE POINT AT THE TIME OF THE CONVERSATION.
WE LOOKED AT THE WRITE IN RIGHT OUT, BUT KNOWING FIVE B COULD BE A POSSIBILITY, THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ENOUGH, UH, STORAGE ROOM.
SO WE'LL WORK, WE'LL WORK WITH IT.
SO YEAH, I MEAN IT'S UP TO STAFF WHETHER OR NOT YOU, THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW YOU TO, UM, CHANGE THE AT FINAL, YOU CAN APPROVE THIS PRELIMINARY, YOU CAN ADD THAT ROAD AT FINAL.
THAT'S UP TO STAFF WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S TOO, TOO MUCH OF A CHANGE OR WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE A SEPARATE PLAN.
BUT, UM, WE'D ALSO GONNA HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU ACCOUNTED FOR STORM WATER FOR THIS ROAD? HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, HAVE YOU DONE THAT? NO, THAT'S NOTHING INCLUDED.
HAVE YOU ALREADY STARTED YOUR STORMWATER PROCESS AND NOI AND ALL THAT? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO AMEND IT.
WE HAVE, BUT NOT FOR THE ROAD SECTION THAT'S OFFSITE.
BUT ARE YOU TOO LATE IN THE PROCESS TO ADD, ADD THE ROAD NOW? WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT YET.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO AMEND IT YET.
YOU JUST MAY HAVE TO WITHHOLD YOUR, YOUR SUBMITTAL CORRECT.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A FOR Y'ALL WHETHER OR NOT, RIGHT.
THAT'S NOT OUR CALL, WHETHER THEY CAN DO THAT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING THE ROAD INTO THE PROJECT, ADDING THE ROAD AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ADDING TO THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND WE DON'T SEE IT AT FINAL ANYMORE.
AND DDRC SEES IT AT FINAL, BUT IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO DC AND, UM, I MEAN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ROAD THAT, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, INNOVATION DRIVE WAS NEVER A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL EITHER.
IT WAS ALWAYS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS BEING A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT PLAN COMING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THEY JUST HAD TO HAVE IT DONE AND THE ROAD DONE PRIOR TO CO WELL, I, I, I THINK WE'RE THE SAME FOR YOUR SAKE, IF YOU'RE TALKING, IF YOU'RE TALKING CO IN 2028, I PROMISE YOU CONNOR, AS TALENTED AS HE IS, AS HE IS, CAN GET THAT BASIC ROAD APPROVED FOR CONSTRUCTION AND BUILT PRIOR TO 2028.
COULD YOU JUST, IF WE DO IT AS A SEPARATE, AS A SEPARATE PLAN AND THAT WOULD BE THE CLEANER OPTION IN MY OPINION.
DO WANNA TRY AND TAKE A STAB AT A MOTION HERE? I, BEFORE WE DO, I, I'M COMFORTABLE
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WITH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE MOTION THAT ONLY SAYS THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A SECONDARY ACCESS, NOT CONNECTING WITH INNOVATION DRIVE THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS HOW THAT IS CONSTRUCTED WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH A PLAN TO BUILD THE ACCESS ROAD.I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S PERFECTLY AMENABLE.
AND I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THEY'RE FINE WITH THAT TOO.
SO SOMEBODY WANNA, I THINK THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED IS, IS WE DO HAVE A INITIAL MASTER PLAN THAT DOES SHOW THAT ROAD CONNECTION.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE, WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADMINISTRATIVELY AMEND THE MASTER PLAN BASED UPON THIS CONVERSATION.
UH, UH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT IT PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON.
AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IT, IT SHOWS YOU IF YOU APPROVE RIGHT? THAT DOESN'T HINDER YOU FROM, FROM GOING FORWARD WITH THE WAY YOU'VE DESCRIBED EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT ALSO SHOWS, BUT DOES IT REQUIRE IT? I'M SORRY.
THEY LIKE BUILDING EVERYTHING TO THE MASTER PLAN BECAUSE IT'S ALSO SHOWING THE, THE, UH, MARGINAL ACCESS ROAD.
BUT THE ALIGNMENT, WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT THAN THE MASTER PLAN SHOWS IT.
AND, AND, AND LOOK, I DON'T, AND, UM, GENTLEMEN IN THE BACK DON'T THROW ANYTHING AT ME.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF THAT ROAD EVENTUALLY GETS BUILT.
IF IT'S A LIMITED ACCESS THAT PROTECTS THE RESIDENTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS WOULDN'T BE THAT.
AND THAT'S THE, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU SENSED THE CONCERN UP ON THIS.
UH, PODIUM DI WHATEVER WE'RE ON.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
THE SUBMITTAL HAS SUBMITTED WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR COMPLETING ALL REQUIRED OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CO FOR THE NOVA HEALTH BLUFFTON MEDICAL CENTER WITH THE, UM, STIPULATION THAT INNOVATION DRIVE SOUTH IS NOT THE SECONDARY ACCESS FOR THE HOSPITAL.
I DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS, BUT I'M NOT SEEING HEADS SHAKING NO BACK THERE.
SO I THINK WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT FROM HERE.
I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK THE DEFINITION OF INNOVATION DRIVE SOUTH IS ANYTHING SOUTH.
AND SO WE STILL WANT TO DO JUST NOT RIGHT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF WE GET IT DID, HOW DID THAT RE DID SOMEBODY TYPE THAT DOWN WHEN HE READ IT? OR WE'RE GONNA GET IT LATER? LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT, THAT MOTION STATES INNOVATION DRIVE THROUGH.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET ME MAKE A, A MOTION TO AMEND.
I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THIS TO STATE THAT THAT SECONDARY ACCESS ACCESS CANNOT BE ON AN INNOVATION DRIVE SOUTH THROUGH THE RETREAT AT GRAND OAKS RETREAT AT GRANDI OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I SECOND THE AMENDMENT, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT? AYE.
NOW THE AMENDMENT, THE AMENDED MOTION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTION.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? NO.
SOMEBODY HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVE TO ADJOURN.