[ 1. CALL TO ORDER]
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ARE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP.
WE ALSO GOING TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT IN THIS MEETING AT THIS TIME VICE CHAIRMAN TAVERNER WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND INVOCATION SO PLEASE RISE AGAIN TO INQUIRE OF AMERICAN AMERICA INDIVISIBLE ALMIGHTY AND GRACIOUS GOD WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH HEARTS FULL OF GRATITUDE YOUR MANY AND COUNTLESS BLESSINGS FOR HAVING US ALL WAKE UP TODAY AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WE THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOM TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS CIVIC PROCESS AND FOR THE GIFT OF OUR COMMUNITY WITH ITS DIVERSE TAPESTRY PEOPLE, TALENTS AND ASPIRATIONS. WE PRAY FOR WISDOM. WE DISCUSS AND DELIBERATE ON THE MATTERS BEFORE US TODAY. GRANT US INSIDE TO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF OUR PEOPLE AND ENCOURAGED TO MAKE RIGHTEOUS DECISIONS. WE ASK YOU TO GUIDE US ALL IN THE SPIRIT OF UNITY AND UNDERSTANDING DRIVEN BY CIVILITY AND RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER. WE OFFER THIS PRAYER TRUSTING IN YOUR GUIDANCE FOR OUR COUNTY'S FUTURE. AMEN. MM HMM.
BEFORE WE START, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE BURTON FIRE DEPARTMENT EMS AND ALSO OUR DEPUTY SHERIFFS OF COUNTY FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT FOR LARGE CROWD THAT WE DO HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ALL SAFE AND SOUND LIKE THIS. THIS WAS THIS MEETING WAS ADVERTISED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION. I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT WITH
[ 4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
OUR COUNTY CLERK. YES, MA'AM, IT WAS. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO MAKE A HAVING A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA.
MADAM CHAIR. YES, I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION FOR THE AGENDA THAT WE EXTEND MEETING PAST 8:00 NOW AS PART OF THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA THAT'S PART OF THE APPROVAL. YES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT, MADAM CHAIR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION. YES, MADAM CHAIR.
ACTUALLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO HAVE OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OR ONE OF THE MATTERS ON THE AGENDA ITSELF.
OKAY. UM, YEAH, I GUESS FROM TALKING TO OUR COUNCIL ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAVE WITH THIS AGENDA TODAY IS ACTUALLY THE LOCATION OF THE AGENDA IN JANUARY WE AS A BODY VOTE ON A SCHEDULE WE VOTE ON AN AGENDA AND A LOCATION ON THAT AS ALL OF US.
AND THEN A DECISION WAS MADE BY JUST YOU, MADAM CHAIR, TO MOVE IT TO THIS LOCATION BECAUSE OF ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT A VOTE BY COUNCIL OR DISCUSSION WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL. TO ME I FIND THAT ALMOST LITTLE DISRESPECTFUL TO THE OTHER TEN OF US THAT DIDN'T A SAY IN THE MATTER COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN DISCUSSED WITH US BY US WITH US JUST FINDING OUT WHEN A SCHEDULE IS POSTED THAT THEY CHANGED THE LOCATION BECAUSE WITH THAT SAID I'M GLAD WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT. THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT JUST LIKE I SAID TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN WE HAD A HUGE TURNOUT. BUT THERE ARE OTHER ON THIS AGENDA BESIDES JUST THIS ONE. I MEAN WE'VE HAD OTHER ITEMS OF ZONING REQUESTS AND IT WAS NEVER MOVED THOSE LOCATIONS TO BENEFIT THAT AREA WHATSOEVER EITHER.
SO I GUESS MY MY POINT WOULD BE I WOULD I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER MEMBERS IN THIS COUNCIL FEEL I SHOULD HAVE A DECISION AMONG ALL 11 OF US. WE VOTED FOR THIS ITEM TO BE ON THIS AGENDA THIS DATE PRIOR TO THE LOCATION BEING CHANGED AND EVERYBODY KNEW THAT LOCATION WHEN WE PUT IT ON THIS AGENDA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS REGARDING THAT? I JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD SUPPORTING COLLEAGUE LOGAN CUNNINGHAM WITH THAT THOSE REMARKS. THANK YOU.
OKAY. WE HAVE MOTION. YES, SIR.
JUST LET ME SAY THAT I DO RESPECT YOU AS A COUNCIL LEADER AND YOU MADE A DECISION TO ACCOMMODATE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY AND I APPRECIATE THAT SO I WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT YOU.
THANK YOU. OKAY. OTHER DISCUSSION? MM HMM. OKAY. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. MADAM CHAIR, AS A RESPONSE TO THAT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MR. GLOVER, 11 OF US HAVE AN EQUAL VOICE, AN EQUAL SAY.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM MOVING IT, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN AS AN ACTION AS A FULL COUNCIL NOT ONE PERSON. YEAH. OKAY.
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ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND TO EXTEND BEYOND YOU KNOW, AND WE HAD A SECOND AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION BY SHOW OF HANDS APPROVE THE AGENDA. OKAY. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS.[ 5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THANK. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.THESE ARE THE MINUTES FROM THE CAUCUS AND COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER EIGHT, 2025.
I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I HAVE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LAWSON.
WE HAVE A SECOND A SECOND ON THE MINUTES. I'LL THAT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MCGOWAN. ANY DISCUSSION I'M SAYING NONE.
LET'S APPROVE THE MINUTES BY SHOW HANDS, PLEASE. AND IS UNANIMOUS.
[ 6. PROCLAMATION]
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SEVERAL. WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS.THE FIRST ONE WILL BE DONE BY MEMBER GLOVER. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE CORNERS COMMUNITY OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND.
AND DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO RECEIVE THAT PROCLAMATION? YES.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, I WILL ASK QUEEN QUINT TO COME FORWARD. OKAY, LET'S GO UP HERE TO LOOK AT THE PODIUM HERE. ARE YOU GOING TO READ IT OVER THERE? I'LL BE THERE. YOU'RE GOING TO READ IT FROM THERE.
NO MORE READING FROM YOU. ALL RIGHT. SHE'S THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE CORNERS, THE CPO COMMITTEE THAT MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATION.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, I THINK I'M GOING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION JUST TO BE A MAN AND WOMAN AT YOU. RIGHT. MADAM CHAIR WOMAN I WANT TO BE BEFORE I READ THIS PROCLAMATION. JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN SAYING HELD HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THIS HERE WILL START HOPEFULLY THE MOTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO HAVE THIS AREA NAME PROPERLY. SO THIS PROCLAMATION SAYS WHERE IS THE CORNER COMMUNITY HAS BEEN COMMONLY MISNAMED FROGMORE DUE TO THE UNIQUE HISTORY OF MAIL DELIVERY ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND. WHEREAS SAINT HELENA ISLANDS PRIMARY RECIPIENTS OF MAIL AT ONE POINT WERE THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS AT THE FROGMORE MANOR. AND WHERE IS THE FIRST POST OFFICE SERVING ST HELENA ISLAND? CARE TO NAME FROGMORE POST OFFICE AND WAS LOCATED AT THE MCDONALD ALSO REFERRED TO AS THE CORNER STORE AND WHERE IS THE POST OFFICE SERVING ST HELENA ISLAND. WAS RELOCATED ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY CARRY THE NAME OF FROGMORE POST OFFICE 1963. AND WHERE IS THE POST OFFICE SERVING ST HELENA HOLLYWOOD RELOCATED TO ITS CURRENT LOCATION AND CARRIED THE NAME OF THE NAME TO FROM THE POST OFFICE IN 1988. AND WHERE IS THE COMMUNITY CREATED A PETITION TO RENAME THE POST OFFICE ST HELENA ISLAND POST OFFICE IN 1989. AND WHERE IS THE CULTURAL PROTECTION COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED THAT THE COUNTY COUNCIL THE THE COMMERCIAL AND CULTURAL HEART OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND LOCATED IN THE AREA SURROUNDING THE INTERSECTION DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DRIVE AND SEA ISLAND THE CORNERS COMMUNITY AND WHERE IS IT NECESSARY TO DISTINGUISH THIS DISTRICT FROM NATIONAL REGISTERS SITE NAME FROG MOON PLANTATION COMPLEX COMPLEX LOCATED OFF SEA SIDE ROAD AND WHERE IS AS AT THE AUGUST 19, 2025 MEETING THE CULTURAL PROTECTION ORDER THE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND COUNTY COUNCIL ADOPT THE PROCLAMATION NOW THEREFORE BE BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT THE COMMERCIAL AND CULTURAL HEART OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND LOCATED IN THE AREA SURROUNDING THE INTERSECTION OF DR. MARTIN KING JUNIOR DRIVE AND THE SEA ISLAND PARKWAY IS DECLARED THE CORNER COMMUNITY AND IS ASSIGNED THIS DATE THE 22ND OF SEPTEMBER BY CHAIRPERSON ALICE G HOWARD. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A SO A FEW WORDS BRIEFLY TO YOU. I GOT THEM. THANK YOU SO.
THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THIS. YEAH.
FIRST I WANT TO SAY CPO MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT EX-OFFICIO AND VOTING MEMBER THE CBO COMMITTEE WE ALL TO LOOK AT FOR STAND UP I SEE I SEE SOME OF YOU NODDING THANK
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YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS PAST AND THEN FOR THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT FROM FROGMORE ST HELENA SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD YOU ALL STAND BECAUSE THIS RALLY OFF IN OH OH OH SO THANK YOU THANK YOU COUNCILMAN GLOVER AT THE AT THE NATURAL RESOURCES COUNCIL MEETING I HAD A CHANCE TO BE UPFRONT LIKE COMMITTEE VOTE WELL FOR OUR MODEL AND WE'RE FOR WENDY DEVEREAUX I MEAN THEY FUNDED THIS ALL INTO THE AIRPORT OC WITH THE ON C SIDE RULE AND 21 DON'T GO TO FROM IT GO TO THE CORNER AND SOFT I BROKE MY D LIKE ALICIA DADDY TWO DAYS LATER AFTER WE TOLD A STORY AND TOLD SOME OF THIS PROCLAMATION IT WASN'T READ IN ITS ENTIRETY THAT DAY BUT I SPOKE OF THE HISTORY IN ITS ENTIRETY.I WENT TO GET MY MEAL FROM THE ST HELENA ISLAND POST OFFICE AND ON NO WHO I THOUGHT WAS A DIE WAS NOW PAINTED AND I HAD EYEBROWS LASHES DONE AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS AND I SAID YOU SEE HOW THESE COME Y'ALL DO THAT DON'T THE WRONG ONE. I WENT BACK THREE MORE DAYS LATER AND IT HAD BABIES SO THAT'S WHEN I SAID THIS IS NOT SMILE THIS IS A SMILE IT BUT SHE PUT A SMILE MY FACE TO KNOW THAT TEACHING PEOPLE OUR STORY HERE IN THIS COUNTY AND ESPECIALLY THAT OF MY HOME ISLAND SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND MY COMMUNITY FROM SOUTH CATHOLIC IDEA FROM FROGMORE FOR CHIL AND IT'S SO IT'S A BLESSING TO KNOW THAT IT INSPIRED PEOPLE THAT QUICKLY TO SAY THEY WANTED TO RESPECT OUR LEGACY, OUR HISTORY AND FOR YOU ALL TO PUT THIS ON THE RECORD TONIGHT AND PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION SAYS THAT YOU VALUE THE HISTORY, THE COMMUNITIES, THE CULTURE HERE AND BEFORE COUNTY THAT YOU AREN'T ON THIS BOARD AS WE SAY DRY LAND SO THAT YOU TRULY ARE LISTENING, YOU ARE HEARING US AND WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND I'M SO GLAD TONIGHT TO SEE STATE REPRESENTATIVES FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVES IN THIS BUILDING BECAUSE WE COMING TO YOU BECAUSE ALSO SAID TO COUNTY COUNCIL NOW WE NEED A SIGN THAT DESIGNATE WHEN YOU ENTER THE CORNERS AND WHEN YOU LEAVE SAY BY YOUR HIGH Y'ALL BY Y'ALL HOW HONORED TO DO OKAY SO WE WILL BE WORKING YOU AT THE STATE LEVEL AS WELL AND OUR REPS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT SIGNAGE TO DESIGNATE POINT IS BUT THIS IS AN HONOR AND A BLESSING AND I WILL DEFINITELY HOLD ON TO IT FOR OUR CULTURAL PROTECTION DISTRICT COMMITTEE AND FOR THE FROGMORE FAMILY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. MORE AGAIN. THANK YOU QUEEN BUT NEXT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH SEPTEMBER 2025 AND COUNCILMAN MEMBER CUNNINGHAM WILL BE DOING THAT. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO ACCEPT IT? YOU WANT SOMEONE OKAY BRING THE DEPUTIES YOU CAN BRING THE DEPUTIES OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I AM TOTALLY WITH THAT ANYBODY THAT IS HOW ABOUT IN THE SIDE OF FIRST RESPONDERS OR EMS WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY COULD COME UP. I MEAN YOU MADE THE DRIVE SOME IN THE BACK I KNOW.
DON'T BE SHY AND BURTON EMS DEPUTIES IS THE LONGEST PROCLAMATION WE'VE EVER HAD SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO COME OUT FOR IT I WILL WARN YOU GUYS THIS REALLY IS THE LONGEST PROCLAMATION EVER SO I'M TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. WHEREAS SEPTEMBER SERVES AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF PREPARING FOR EMERGENCIES TO BUILD RESILIENCE BEFORE DISASTERS STRIKE. AND.
WHEREAS COUNTIES CITIES THROUGHOUT SOUTH CAROLINA HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY A VARIETY OF DISASTERS EMERGENCIES INCLUDING ICE STORMS, FLOODING, EARTHQUAKES, HURRICANES AND PANDEMICS. AND. WHEREAS, THE RESIDENTS OF COUNTY DEEPLY APPRECIATE THE PROTECTION THAT SOUTH CAROLINA'S STATE GUARD HAS PROVIDED TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT STATE FOR MORE THAN 350 YEARS.
AND. WHEREAS, THE AUTHORIZED BY SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS THE STATE GUARD IS A PROFESSIONAL MILITARY ORGANIZATION AND COMPONENT OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA MILITARY DEPARTMENT WHICH SUPPORTS VARIETY OF CRITICAL FUNCTIONS OF THE STATE, COUNTY AND GOVERNMENTS SUCH AS PROVIDING DISASTER RELIEF ASSISTANCE TO COMMUNITIES AND LOCAL FIRST RESPONDER ORGANIZATIONS. AND.
WHEREAS, THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE GUARD TRACES ITS EARLY EARLIEST MANIFESTATION TO FORM OF THE MILITIA THE CHARLESTON IN 1670 THE COLONY'S FIRST MILITARY ORGANIZATION
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PROTECTING RESIDENTS IN THE EARLIEST DAYS FROM PIRATES FOREIGN INVADERS AND NATIVE AMERICAN RAIDS. AND. WHEREAS, THROUGHOUT THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR THE STATE GUARD PLAYED A PIVOTAL ROLE IN RECAPTURING THE SOUTH FROM BRITISH CONTROL WITH LEADERS SUCH AS FRANCIS MARION, THE SWAMP FOX, THOMAS SUMPTER, THE GAMECOCK AND ANDREW PICKENS, THE WIZARD AL AND ADDITIONALLY PLAYED KEY ROLES AND LATER CONFLICTS SUCH AS THE EARLY 19TH CENTURY BATTLES AGAINST THE SPANISH AND FLORIDA, THE MEXICAN WAR, THE SPANISH-AMERICAN WAR. AND.WHEREAS THE STATE GUARD IS ORGANIZED AS AN ARMY BRIGADE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COMMANDER AND IS COMPRISED COMPRISED OF THE COMMANDER STAFF THE CHIEF STAFF SECTION, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES COMMAND AND THE FIRST CIVILIAN SUPPORT BRIGADE WHICH IS FURTHER DIVIDED INTO THREE BATTALIONS. THE BATTALIONS ARE DIVIDED INTO COMPANIES WITH CORRESPOND TO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SIX REGIONS OF SOUTH CAROLINA EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION. AND. WHEREAS THE STATE GUARD NEW MEMBERS AT THE MCGRADY TRAINING FACILITY IN EAST OVER TO PROVIDE A NUMBER OF SERVICES SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATIONS, MEDICAL SUPPORT LEGAL AND ENGINEERING EXPERTIZE CHAPLAIN COUNSELING SERVICES, DIRECTING DISTRIBUTION OF SUPPLIES PROVIDING, MILITARY AND FUNERAL HONORS TO VETERANS EXECUTIVE GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS THAT SERVES AS A LIAISON TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND THE AS WELL AS BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE MILITARY CIVIC ACROSS THE STATE AND. WHEREAS WHEN SERIOUS NATIONAL NATURAL OR MAN MADE DISASTERS STRIKE THE SOUTH CAROLINA THE SOUTH CAROLINA THE STATE GUARD PROVIDES BOOTS ON THE GROUND WITH MISSION TO SWIFTLY RESPOND SAFEGUARDING PEOPLE AND PROPERTY AND COMMUNITY RECOVERY IN COORDINATION WITH THE NATIONAL GUARD LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER STATE COUNTY MUNICIPAL AGENCIES AND WHERE AS GUARD AS PART OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA MILITARY DEPARTMENT AND DIRECTED BY THE ADJUNCT GENERAL AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF AS THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED, WE'RE ALMOST I PROMISE BEFORE COUNTY COUNCIL DOES HEREBY SEPTEMBER 2025 AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND BE FOR COUNTY BEAUFORT COUNTY RECOGNIZES AND HONORS MEMBERS OF THE THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE GUARD AND COMMENDS THEIR ALL VOLUNTEER FORCE KNOWINGLY PROVIDE AID DURING TIMES OF DISASTER WHO SHARES A PASSION AND STRONG COMMITMENT TO THEIR FELLOW SOUTH CAROLINIANS AND WHO EMBODY SPIRIT OF NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH THIS STATE 22ND DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2025 SIGNED BY OUR CHAIRWOMAN ALICE HOWARD THANK YOU RIGHT WE WANT TO TAKE A PICTURE LIKE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PICTURE JUST HAVE A PICTURE GET A PICTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR READING ALL THAT. THAT WAS GOOD. ALL RIGHT.
[ 7. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]
NEXT WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATORS REPORT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD NEWS TONIGHT HONORING SOME COUNTY EMPLOYEES, CORRECT CITY MANAGER COUNCIL WE HAVE REINSTITUTED, IF YOU WILL THE SERVICE PENS FOR THE COUNTY SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE SEVERAL MEMBERS FOR THEIR YEARS SERVICE HERE. WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL EVERYTHING FOR 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS AND FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS UP UNTIL ONE OF OUR LONGEST SERVING EMPLOYEES. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL EMPLOYEES TO BRING UP TONIGHT SO FIRST OFF, WE'RE GOING TO BITE RUSTY BRASS WITH 15 YEARS OF SERVICE. HE'S A PROJECT MANAGER ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT. SO RUSTY IS A DEDICATED HUSBAND ,FATHER AND COUNTY EMPLOYEE. HE SPENT MOST OF HIS CAREER IN THE FACILITIES AND BECAME SUPERINTENDENT. SO IT'S COMING OVER TO ENGINEERING A PROJECT MANAGER RUSTY HAS BECOME A FOUNTAIN OF KNOWLEDGE ON ALL THINGS AND PAVING RELATED.HE'S CONSTRUCTED SEVERAL HOMES AND CURRENTLY LIVES IN A HOUSE HE BUILT WITH HIS WIFE PAM AND HIS DAWN WHICH ARE VERY HELPFUL. SO CONGRATULATIONS.
I THINK WE NEED A PICTURE TO THE PICTURE, RIGHT? YEAH RIGHT HERE YOU OKAY? THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT WE'D LIKE TO INVITE KIMBERLY CHESNEY WITH 20 YEARS OF SERVICE TAX COLLECTOR IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.
SO IT'S A FROM HER STAFF. IT'S BEEN AN HONOR PRIVILEGE TO WORK ALONGSIDE KIMBERLY.
SHE CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATES PROFESSIONALISM, DEDICATION AND ,AN UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE. SHE NOT ONLY SUPPORTS OTHERS IN THEIR ROLES BUT ALSO HAS PLAYED
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A VITAL PART IN ENCOURAGING PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL GROWTH AS WELL.THEY'VE HAD THE HONOR TO HER REMARKABLE DEVELOPMENT AND HER DETERMINATION AND PERSEVERANCE TO CONTINUE INSPIRE THOSE AROUND HER. SHE LEADS BY EXAMPLE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE OTHERS FEEL EMPOWERED TO GROW, SUCCEED AND REACH FULLEST POTENTIAL FOR LEADERSHIP, MENTORSHIP AND GENUINE CARE FOR OTHERS MAKE HER A TRUE ASSET TO OUR COUNTY AND TO THEIR OFFICE HER INFLUENCE EXTENDS BEYOND HER DAILY.
SHE ADVISES THE VALUES OF INTEGRITY, TEAMWORK AND SERVICE THAT REFLECT THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF PUBLIC SERVICE. SHE'S NOT ONLY A RESPECTED COLLEAGUE BUT A ROLE MODEL SHE'S CONTRIBUTIONS WILL BE IMPACT ON THE STAFF AND COMMUNITY. SO CONGRATULATIONS CONGRATULATIONS.
I THINK THAT WAS PERFECTLY WORDED BUT I MET KIMBERLY MAYBE MY WEEK IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND IF YOU RECALL WHAT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WAS LIKE 1415 YEARS AGO YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT'S NOT IT IS TODAY AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS LADY BUT SHE GAVE ME A STACK OF FILES THICK AND SAID I HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR YOU TO SOLVE AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT EVER SINCE. HEY NEXT WE HAVE GARZA WITH 20 YEARS OF SERVICE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE MAGISTRATE COURT. IT'S VERY SO WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK STEPHANIE HER UNWAVERING COMMITMENT SERVING AS A BOARD ADMINISTRATOR SHE'S BEEN STEADY HAND BEHIND THE SCENES ENSURING THAT THE COURT OPERATIONS FACILITIES ARE MANAGED AND DIRECTED WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM AND CARE WITH HER MORE THAN 20 YEARS OF SERVICE REPRESENT NOT JUST TIME BUT LEGACY OF RELIABILITY, HARD WORK AND MEANINGFUL IMPACT .
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS JOURNEY WITH YOU. CONGRATULATIONS IF OKAY NEXT I'D LIKE TO INVITE KATHY WITH 20 YEARS OF SERVICE AND A WORKMAN'S COMPENSATION SPECIALIST IN RISK MANAGEMENT TERMS TODAY WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE KATHY FOR HER 20 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AS OUR WORKER COMPENSATION. SHE PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN SUPPORTING EMPLOYEES DURING SOME OF OUR MOST DIFFICULT TIMES BECAUSE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS THE WELL-BEING OF OUR WORKFORCE HER WORK ENSURES THAT THOSE WHO ARE INJURED WHILE SERVING ARE DOWNEY AND OUR CITIZENS RECEIVE THE CARE AND SUPPORT THEY NEED.
WE'RE FOR HER COMMITMENT AND COMPASSION OVER THESE MANY YEARS.
I CONGRATULATE NEXT I'D LIKE TO INVITE SYLVIA THOMPSON WITH 20 YEARS OF SERVICE FROM THE PROBATE DIVISION CHIEF PROBATE COURT. HEY THERE, HOW ARE YOU, MARIA? A FEW WORDS AND WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR SUPPORT. SO SYLVIA C THERAPEUTIC DIVISION CHIEF FOR THE PROBATE COURT SHE SEES THE COMMITMENT PROCESS FOR MENTALLY AND OR CHEMICALLY DEPENDENT INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY. LAST YEAR THERE WERE 435 CASES FILED. EACH CASE A PERSON AND A FAMILY IN CRISIS.
SYLVIA WORKED AND WITH COMPASSION TOWARDS HELPING INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES GET AND SUPPORT. OUR COMMUNITY IS A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF HER DEDICATION AND TIRELESS EFFORTS SO CONGRATULATIONS IS RECOGNITION THEY MADE COMMENT I JUST WANT
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TO SAY THAT IT'S AN HONOR TO WORK WITH SOMEBODY SO KIND, DEDICATED AND COMPASSIONATE.SHE HELPED SO MANY LIVES AND EACH PERSON IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHEN THEY COME TO SEE SYLVIA IT'S A BLESSING TO WORK WITH HER AND. I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY, NEXT WE'LL INVITE MARCI TAYLOR WITH FIVE YEARS A SERVICE OFFICE MANAGER FOR EMS . SO MARCI BEGAN HER CAREER WITH BEFORE IN JULY 2000 AND THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AFTER 13 YEARS WORKING WITH MKS ON MARINE AIR STATION BEAUFORT AND TWO YEARS IN THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY, SHE BEGAN AS ADMINISTRATIVE TECHNICIAN AND CURRENTLY IS THE OFFICE MANAGER FOR EMS. HER RESPONSIBILITIES IN THIS POSITION INCLUDE BUT NOT LIMITED TO ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLES ACCOUNTS PAYABLES, PAYROLL WORKERS COMPENSATION RELATED ISSUES HIPA AND ANY OTHER DUTY THAT MAY LAND ON HER DESK TO INCLUDE MEDICARE PROCESSING. AS I FOUND, MARCI RECEIVED AN ASSOCIATE OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION MAGNA LAUDE AND BACHELOR BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION MAGNA LAUDE AS WELL FROM BAKER COLLEGE WELL NOT AT WORK. YOU COULD FIND MARCI CAMPING, HIKING AND SPENDING AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE WITH HER FAMILY AND GRANDCHILDREN GRADUATIONS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU GIVE DON'T USUALLY SPEAK IN PUBLIC BUT I AM JUST HONORED TO HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT FOR 25 YEARS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO FOUR YEARS AND THREE MONTHS SINCE THE CANYONS AND AND THEN I'LL BE DONE THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING UNDERSTANDING WE ABSOLUTELY ENJOY HAVING MASTERTON AND CHIEF TAKES COMPLETE CONTROL THAT OFFICE TRUST ME NOTHING GETS BY HER AND SHE DOES A VERY GOOD JOB BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK SHE DOES AND SHE KEEPS US ALL STRAIGHT. THANKS AND ASK GOING TO STAY FOR OUR NEXT WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE HOMER KELLY OR KELLY STEWART. YES 40 YEARS OF SERVICE LOGISTICS OFFICER, EMS DON'T SO THE COMMENTS I HAVE ARE KELLY IS THE EMPLOYEE EVERY SUCCESSFUL COMPANY HAS ONE WHO KNOWS EVERY FACET OF THE ORGANIZATION.
ONE IS ALWAYS WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES THE ONE WHO KNOWS EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT HOW TO KEEP IT WORKING, ONE WHO CAN FIX ANYTHING AND DOES THE ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT IS NEEDED AND WHERE TO FIND IT. YOU CAN START A LIST THINGS KELLY DOES FOR COUNTY EMS SUPPLIES, EQUIPMENT MEDICATIONS, IMPROVEMENTS TO FACILITIES, REPAIRS AMOS AND BUT IT WOULDN'T CLOSE COME CLOSE TO BEING A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HE DOES.
HE'S A PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT FOR QUESTIONS FROM ALL STAFF MEMBERS AND RECEIVES COUNTLESS PHONE CALLS ON NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS. IT'S COMMONLY KNOWN THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING THE RESPONSES ASK. KELLY IS ALSO DEVOTED TO HIS FAMILY AND APPRECIATE THE SACRIFICES HIS FAMILY'S MADE OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS HIS HOLIDAYS, BIRTHDAYS AND FAMILY EVENTS. THERE'S NO COMPENSATION FOR THE DEDICATION DUTY THAT KELLY HAS. HIS COMMITMENT AND WORK ETHIC ONLY COME WITH A TRUE LOVE OF WHAT ONE DOES. WE ARE TRULY THANKFUL FOR THE 40 YEARS OF SERVICE KELLY HAS GIVEN TO BEAUFORT COUNTY CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OKAY THANK YOU HE'S A SPEAKER BUT JUST ASK HIM A QUESTION FIRST MAYBE HE CAN SPEAK. KELLY IS THE ONE PERSON AT INNERMOST BASE NO MATTER WHAT GOING ON HIS START OUT THE SUPPLY OFFICER BUT HE HAS EXPANDED THAT BEYOND YOU CAN IMAGINE I DON'T CARE IF IT'S EQUIPMENT TRUCK FURNITURE WHATEVER IS GOING ON HE HELPS US WITH IT AND THEY DON'T CALL ANYBODY ELSE WILL FIX IT AND IF HE CAN'T FIX IT HE'LL FIGURE OUT BEFORE THE END OF THE DAY HOW TO FIX THAT.
HE'S AN AMAZING ASSET TO THIS COUNTY AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. HE'S HE'S VERY LOYAL AND DEDICATED TO HIS JOB AND HE GETS CALLS AT NIGHT AND ON WEEKENDS IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT THEY'LL SAY CALL KELLY AND THAT'S THE TRUTH.
AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR RECOGNITION OF EMPLOYEES THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT SUBJECT ANY
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QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE THEY WOULD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR NOW THAT WAS A GREAT CELEBRATION THANK YOU. THANK YOU.I HAVEN'T TO MAKE SOMEONE HAS MISPLACED THEIR KEYS AND LOOKING STILL LOOKING FOR THEM PROBABLY WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH SECURITY IF ANYONE CHECK IF YOU HAVE AN EXTRA SET OF KEYS PLEASE THE SECURITY PEOPLE KNOW AND TURN IT INTO THEM SO IF YOU FEEL TO SET OF KEYS IN YOUR
[8.a. Presentation of new format for tax bills - Maria Walls, Beaufort County Treasurer]
POCKET YOU MAY HAVE ONE TOO MANY. THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING HAVE A PRESENTATION OF THE NEW FORMAT FOR OUR TAX BY OUR BEAUFORT COUNTY TREASURER MARIA WALZ. THANK YOU YOU.
AND I JUST WANT TO PREFACE THIS BY SAYING COUNCIL AS TREASURER WAS TO DO THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE TAX BILL IS GOING TO LOOK DIFFERENT. WE DON'T WANT YOU YOU TO FREAK OUT BUT COUNCIL IS ASKED FOR HER TO DELINEATE THE MILLAGE SO SHE'S GOING TO EXPLAIN IT ALL TONIGHT SO THANK YOU AND YES THE GOAL IS LET'S NOT FREAK OUT OKAY THANK YOU I JUST NEEDED TO GET SITUATED HERE YOU WILL NOTICE AND FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM ONLINE I'M GOING TO HAVE IMAGES ON THE SCREEN THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO AND FOLLOW ALONG.
BUT FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU'LL SEE IN FRONT OF YOU WHILE YOU WERE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION I PUT EXAMPLES OF BILLS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU SO IT IS NOT A NEW FORMAT SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE USING THE SAME TERMINOLOGY TO OUR TEAM A FORMAT IS A DESIGN FUNCTION. THIS IS DATA BEING DISPLAYED AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE WANT OUR PARTICULARLY OUR TAX PAYERS TO FOCUS THIS EVENING THEY RECEIVE THEIR BILL IF THEY'VE EVER GOTTEN IT BEFORE COUNTY TAX BILL BEFORE IT IS GOING TO LOOK VERY VERY SIMILAR.
THAT'S THE GOAL BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE SENDING OUT 411,000 TAX BILLS YOU WANT THEM TO LOOK CONSISTENT SO THAT SO YOU BENEFIT FROM THAT LEARNED BEHAVIOR YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK FOR YOUR PROPERTY ID YOU KNOW WHERE THE TAX AMOUNT IS AND AND SO YOU LEARN BY REVIEWING THE DOCUMENT OVER AND OVER. ALL RIGHT BUT FIRST I NEED YOU TO KNOW FOR EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE VISION STATEMENT IS PEOPLE SERVING PEOPLE NOT TRANSACTIONS . WE ARE PEOPLE FOCUSED WHETHER IT'S OUR VISION MISSION VALUES OR OUR CULTURE. OUR MISSION IS THAT WE'RE PROFESSIONALS SERVING WITH INNOVATION AND ENTHUSIASM AND OUR VALUES IS THAT WE TAKE OF EVERYTHING THAT FALLS WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. WE EVOLVE WITH PURPOSE BECAUSE EVOLUTION IS A CHOICE.
CHANGE IS NOT AND SERVE WITH PASSION. SO LET'S GET TO BILLS BECAUSE AT THE TREASURER'S OFFICE WE LITERALLY WORKING EVERY DAY TO SET BEAUFORT COUNTY UP FOR SUCCESS AND WHAT'S OFTEN THE CASE IS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S EASY OR YOU KNOW WE'RE JUST SLAPPING SOME DATA ON A PIECE OF PAPER BUT HONESTLY WHEN YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB WELL THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE BUT IT IS NOT THAT EASY. SO AT A HIGH LEVEL I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE TAXATION PROCESS SO WE ACTUALLY START PREPARING TAX IN MAY ALL THE WHILE WE'RE PURSUING ACCOUNTS SO WE'RE PREPARING FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
WELL WE ARE IN MIDDLE OF THE LAST YEAR WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW FEEDBACK FROM THE PRIOR YEAR SO EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WHEN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING YOU DON'T LIKE ON YOUR TAX BILL WE ACTUALLY LOG THAT AND THEN WE NOTATED FOR THE FUTURE YEAR AND WE WILL MAKE THOSE CHANGES IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP MULTIPLE TIMES ESPECIALLY IN JUNE WE MONITOR YOUR BUDGET ORDINANCE EVERY OTHER AGENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T SOMETHING ON LIKE LISTING ALL THE VILLAGES OUT ONE BY ONE THAT IS GOING TO NEED TO BE MAPPED DIFFERENTLY.
WHAT IS COMING THROUGH FROM THE ORDINANCE FLOWS THROUGH THE BILLS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TAX SOFTWARE INTO THE COUNTIES . LEDGER JULY WE'RE STARTING TO WORK ON A FORMAT THAT'S THE DESIGN NOT THE DATA AND AT THE END OF JULY WE'RE GOING TO START CONTACTING OUR BULK PROPERTY OWNERS IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WE HAVE THAT PROGRAM IF YOU OWN MORE THAN 50 PROPERTIES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY WHICH ACTUALLY THERE'S QUITE A OWNERS THAT DO WE HAVE A SPECIAL PROGRAM JUST FOR THEM AND WE WORK INDIVIDUALLY WHERE WE'RE GETTING WE'RE GIVING THEM AN ELECTRONIC FILE SO IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO PAY AUGUST WE'RE LOOKING TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE TAXATION PROCESS.
WE'RE ASKING THEM FOR FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS THE BILLS WHAT WOULD THEY LIKE TO SEE? WE'RE BEGINNING TO CONTACT MORTGAGES. THE MAJORITY OF PROPERTIES IN COUNTY HAVE A MORTGAGE AND IN AUGUST END OF AUGUST WE ARE SUBMITTING THINGS LIKE MILLAGE
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CHANGES AND BREAKING OF THE MILLAGE LIKE WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT SO DIFFERENT THIS YEAR WE ARE DOING TWO DIFFERENT MAILINGS I AM SUPER PROUD WE HAVE A NEW SENIOR DATA ANALYST.I'LL STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT. SHE IS SHE HAS COACHED HER TEAM REVAMPED THE PROCESSES TO A POINT WHERE IN MY 14 YEARS WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE DOING ANNUAL TAX RUNS. WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR SO BY SEPTEMBER 30TH WE WILL HAVE SUBMITTED ALL OF THE TAX DATA TO BOTH OUR ONLINE VENDOR SO THEY DO OUR EMAILS AND OUR PRINT VENDOR WHICH WOULD INITIATE PAPER BILLS ANYONE IN OUR INSTALLMENT PROGRAM YOU CONTINUE DOING WHAT YOU DO ANY PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE TAX SALE THE TAXES WILL GO FORWARD AND ANNUAL BILLS FOR INSTALLMENT PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS PROPERTIES THAT WENT TO TAX SALE WILL BE SENT BY THE END BY OCTOBER 31ST LIKE THEY NORMALLY WOULD BE AND THEN WE JUST ZOOM RIGHT ALONG THROUGH SEASON. SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS WE GO OVER A COMPARISON OF THE BILLS. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO UM, I WANTED YOU TO SEE JUST IN E BILL REAL FAST AND AS WE GO THROUGH WHAT OUR CITIZENS NEED TO FOCUS ON IS THERE'S A FEW ELEMENTS IN A TAX BILL OBVIOUSLY AS CITIZENS WE FOCUS ON THE AMOUNT TO AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IF YOU WANT TO PULL UP THE AMOUNT DUE COUNCIL MEMBERS IT'S $10,069 AND THAT SHOULD BE 2024 BILL AND 2025 BILL FOR 10,042. SO WHEN YOU GO BACK AND FORTH IN THIS LEFT HAND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS A ZOOMING LASER THING BUT IN THE BOX IT SAYS YOUR TAX DOLLARS GO.
I FULLY UNDERSTAND I'M JUST FLIPPING BACK AND FORTH FOR THE VIEWERS HERE YOU SEE IN THE BOX IT'S SHORTER AND THEN YOU GO TO 2025 AND THERE'S OOPS THANK YOU I SEE HAPPENING THERE IS A LOT MORE DETAIL THERE AND. ABSOLUTELY WE UNDERSTAND IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE COUNCIL'S DESIRE FOR OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW EACH LINE THAT IS IN THE COUNTY'S BUDGET WHERE DOLLARS ARE GOING AND WHAT THE MILLAGE AMOUNT IS AND. SO I WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT IT IS NOT A FORMATTING CHANGE. THANKS TO OUR DATA TEAM THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE OUTLINE WE HAD AND MAKE IT WORK SO SOME OF OUR SOME OF OUR AREAS IN THE COUNTY HAVE TAXES THAN OTHERS IF YOU LIKE THIS ONE LIVE ON HILTON HEAD YOU HAVE A PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT AND SCHOOL DISTRICT AND A TOWN BUT IF YOU LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY THIS LIST IS GOING TO BE A LOT SMALLER. SO WE JUST WANT OUR CUSTOMERS TO MAINLY THAT IF YOU SEE A LONGER LIST IN THAT BOX IT NOT MEAN THAT COUNCIL ADDED ALL THESE TAXES WERE THERE BEFORE IT IS JUST MORE DETAIL. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT I WAS EXPECTING SO LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT SOMETHING FOR A MINUTE WHEN OUR CUSTOMERS SARAH, COULD YOU MOVE IT? COUNCILMAN AND COUNCILMAN BROWN? MM HMM. SO WHAT I WANT OUR CITIZENS TO REALIZE IS IF THEY WERE AND YOU KNOW, ON AVERAGE WE RECEIVE 313 CALLS EVERY DAY IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND THAT'S JUST INITIAL PHONE CALLS I'M WORRIED ABOUT 261 EMAILS A DAY .
THAT IS THAT IS A TAX INCREASE TO A CUSTOMER. SO WE JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE ADDITIONAL LINES MIGHT NOT BE THAT 400 APPROXIMATE DIFFERENCE.
THESE ARE THE EXTRA LINES COUNCIL THAT YOU ASKED TO BE INCLUDED ON THE TAX BILL.
THEY ARE THEY'RE AND WHAT I WANTED TO GO OVER WITH YOU IS THE CLARITY VERSUS DETAIL AND BECAUSE OF THE TIMING OF THIS CHANGE AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS SUFFICIENT PLANNING AND TIME TO REALLY COMMUNICATE THIS A MORE PROACTIVE WAY OUTSIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THE DETAIL IS FANTASTIC. I THEY'RE WE CAN DO SO MUCH BETTER ON THE CLARITY FOR NEXT YEAR AND WE HAVE A GREAT PLAN FOR THAT BECAUSE OUR CONCERN IS AND FOR OUR CUSTOMERS TO KNOW IS THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE THIS CUSTOMER LOST THEIR LEGAL
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RESIDENTS EXEMPTION COMING INTO THE 2025 TAX YEAR SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT BE ALARMED IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL THAT LET'S GET THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AND THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THESE EXTRA LINES AND ASSUMED THEY'RE BEING TAXED MORE WHEN IN THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 4% AND THE 6%. SO WE TRACK IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR ISSUES THAT WE CAN SOLVE. I HATE AVOIDABLE PROBLEMS SO WE'LL KEEP AN EYE OUT ON HOW MANY QUESTIONS WE GET ABOUT THIS BUT NEXT YEAR WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A BETTER WAY THAT WE CAN DISPLAY THIS IN MANNER THAT CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A TAX INCREASE, IT'S JUST A GREATER DISPLAY OF INFORMATION AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO.SHARE THAT WITH YOU AS WE GET LATER INTO 2026. BUT I YEAH, I'M GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE I'M SORRY THERE'S A LOT BUT I NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT MIGHT BE NORFOLK COUNTY IS THE PLACE TO PAY ALL YOUR BILLS AND IF ANYONE THIS ROOM WOULD NOT PUT $100 BILL IN AN ENVELOPE AND MAIL IT TO A FAMILY MEMBER I WOULD PREFER YOU NOT MAIL YOUR TAX THAT WAY. TRY MAYBE IF YOUR COUNTY COME IN AND PAY IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO BUT ALSO IF YOU'RE GOING TO ON PAPER PLEASE KEEP YOUR MAILING ADDRESS UPDATED HAVE TO USE YOUR MAILING ADDRESS NO MATTER WHETHER IT'S CORRECT WE HAVE TO RELY ON YOUR MAIL AND SO I'M HAPPY TO. OH WELL THERE'S OUR TEAM AND. WE DO.
WE'RE ALWAYS HERE SERVING WITH INNOVATION AND ENTHUSIASM. SO IF YOU YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE BILLS THEMSELVES, HOW WE'VE PREPARED OUR STAFF TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM CUSTOMERS, HAPPY TO DISCUSS THEM. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBERS OKAY. JUST ONE POINT. MS. WALLS THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THIS DETAIL. I THINK INCREDIBLE. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS.
THANK YOU. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMAN TERRY BROCK? COULD YOU PUT UP THE ONE THAT WAS $10,482? WHAT I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD LOOK AT FIRST IS WHAT IS YOUR APPRAISED VALUE BECAUSE ON THIS BILL IT WENT UP. YES.
YES LOOK AT THAT BEFORE THEY SAY OH MY GOD, THEY RAISED MY TAXES FOR NO REASON.
WELL SAID. I HAD 15 MINUTES AND I WAS TRYING TO FIT IN 15 JUST POINT IT OUT VALUE DRIVES THE BUS TAXES VALUE DRIVES THE BUS THEN VILLAGES THEN EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO YES, IF YOU'RE IF YOUR VALUE IS GOING UP I PROMISE YOU YOUR TAXES UP IF ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION NOW I'D LIKE TO TELL THANK YOU, MISS MCKENZIE MACKENZIE REALLY HELPED.
I DIDN'T SAY HER NAME RIGHT? I'M SORRY. DID A GREAT HELPING SOMEONE THAT CAME TO ME WITH SOME QUESTIONS NOT TOO LONG AGO AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HER PATIENCE AND IT WAS A YOU KNOW YEAH YOU YOU OWE OH YEAH KIMBERLY YEAH KIMBERLY YEAH ALL RIGHT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND I URGE EVERYONE TO LOOK THEIR TAX BILL DETAILS SO YOU CAN TELL EXACTLY WHAT THE MILLS ARE GOING FOR THIS COMING YEAR. ALL RIGHT.
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NOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THE PUBLIC HEARING.I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES AND WE WILL STRICTLY ENFORCE THAT WHEN EACH OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKS PLEASE ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN AVOID DISRESPECT TO THE COUNCIL IN ANY PERSONALITIES CONFINE HERSELF OR HIMSELF TO THE QUESTION UNDER CONSIDERATION.
COUNCIL WILL NOT REPLY TO ANY COMMENTS AND EVERY HOUR PLEASE SPEAK CIVILLY DO NOT GET PERSONAL WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS OR COUNTY BUT WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN.
THESE ARE IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY WERE RECEIVED WE HAVE QUINQUENNAT IS OUR FIRST SPEAKER AND WE DO HAVE THE TIME WE'RE GOING THANK YOU FOR GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN THIS EVENING I SIGNED UP BECAUSE I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT TOOK PLACE AT THE NATURAL RESOURCES COUNCIL MEETING. I WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SERVES ON THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL FOR SUPPORTING THE WORK THAT WAS DONE BY THE COUNTY PLANNING STAFF IN PARTICULAR I WANTED TO SALUTE KRISTIN FORBES FOR THE WORK THAT SHE DID.
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WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT COMMITTEE FOR SAINT HELENA, MY ORGANIZATION THE SEA ISLAND COALITION AND FOCUSING ON A MAJOR ISSUE FOR NATIVE GULLAH GEECHEE. AND SO THERE IS A STATEMENT IN OUR LANGUAGE WHERE WE SAY THE WATER TO BRING ME TO WATER. I WANT TO TAKE WE BACK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND ABOUT SEA LEVEL RISE AND WATER IS IT HAS NOW STARTED TO IMPACT OUR SACRED BURIAL AREAS AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE HAVE HAD WATER LITERALLY TAKING PEOPLE OUT TO ALMOST WATERSIDE DEATH LIKE YOU HAVE BIRTH BY WATER AND SO IT IS A CRITICAL ISSUE FOR US PROTECT THESE AREAS BUT ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PROTECTED IS IN ACTUALLY DENOTING THE BIRTH THE DEPTH, THE WIDTH OF WHERE THEY ARE BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WE'VE BEEN BURYING THERE FROM 16, 17, 18, 1900S AND INTO THE 2000S AND WE DID NOT DO THIS WITH STONE AS HEAD STONES IN OUR TRADITION HAD PLANTS, WE HAD OTHER ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LEAVE YOU HAD WOODEN THINGS THAT WERE CREATED AND CARVED OUT. SO OF COURSE WE'RE IN A HURRICANE ZONE SO ALL OF THIS TIME YOU'RE NOT TO STILL BE ABLE TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHO'S BURIED WHERE THEY ARE.SO FORTUNATELY NOW BECAUSE OF THIS GROUP SUPPORT AND PLANNING STAFFS WORK WE'RE ABLE TO NOW HAVE FUNDING TO GO INTO THESE BURIAL AREAS THAT WERE SIMPLY WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHAT PLANTED BUT NOW DENOTE THE BOUNDARIES ON SAINT HELENA. AND SINCE I SAW YOU LAST I WAS AT A STATE MEETING THE SAME THING AND FOUND OUT THAT I KNOW THAT ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT MUSKIE. I SPOKE WITH PEOPLE I ALREADY WORK WITH AND THEY ALREADY ON THE MUSKIE WORKING ON THOSE BURIAL AREAS THERE. SO SAINT HELENA AND THE ROSKI ARE FOCUSED ON TWO PROTECT THE SACRED AREAS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING MORE MEETINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL AND TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THE WORK YOU ASSIGNED TO OUR HANDS NOT IN VAIN AND WE WILL PROTECT THESE SACRED SPACES FOR ACCESS AND FOR THE FAMILIES AND THANK YOU COUNTY FOR SUPPORTING THAT .
WE HAVE A $75,000 GRANT AND MY ORGANIZATION WILL GIVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS SUPPORT AND IN-KIND SERVICES TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU. BLESSED NEXT NEXT HAVE WE HAVE SENATOR MARGIE BRYANT MATTHEWS THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. IT FEELS GOOD TO SEE TWO WOMEN IN COUNTY AND THAT'S WHY SENT THE LETTER TO YOU ALL CONGRATULATING YOU. WE DON'T FIND THIS OFTEN IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS A STATE SENATOR AND THAT OF BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR WHICH I REPRESENT. THEY TOLD ME WHEN I WENT TO THE SENATE THAT WHEN YOU WERE A STATE YOU DON'T JUST REPRESENT THE AREA THAT IS IN YOUR DISTRICT. YOU REPRESENT ALL OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
THAT'S WHY I CALL THEY CALL US STATE SENATORS THOUGH THE GULLAH KEECHIE RESIDENTS LINE STATE THE ENTIRE COAST OF SOUTH CAROLINA BEAUFORT IS ONE OF THOSE COUNTIES THAT HAS A CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY JUST LIKE A COUPLE COUNTIES. BUT SOMEHOW I'D LIKE YOU TO TO BOTH SIDES TONIGHT. BEAUFORT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE OTHER COUNTIES BUT CAN GET PAST THAT I SUBMIT THE ORIGINAL OF THE 1990 CPO HAS BEEN LOST AND IT SHOULD NOT BE LOST FOR BOTH SIDES BECAUSE BOTH ARE VERY IMPORTANT. WHY ARE WE HERE? WE'RE HERE TO AND I HEARD YOU SAY THAT AND THANK YOU WE'RE HERE TO BE RESPECTFUL AND TO REACH A RESOLUTION FOR THE BENEFIT ALL OF BEAUFORT I WONDER AS I SAT AND LISTENED AND WORKED ON THIS EARLIER TODAY HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE ACTUALLY READ THE CPO FROM I KNOW MY QUITE A GOOD ONE KNOWS THAT FROM THE BEGINNING FROM THE FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END I RESPECT THE WORK THAT SHE DONE AS WELL AS THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
HOW MANY HERE HAVE READ THE COMPLAINT THAT WAS FILED IN THIS? HOW MANY HERE HAVE READ THE ANSWER WAS FILED BY THE COUNTY THAT IS IMPORTANT.
YOU NEED TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES HERE YOU DO ANYTHING.
WE'RE HERE TO WORK TOGETHER. I'M AMAZED THAT AS MY I REPRESENTED INTERVENORS WE HAD
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TO FILE AN ACTION BEFORE THE COURT JUST TO GET THE COUNTY TO COME AND HEAR WHAT WE WERE SAYING AND THANK YOU FOR IT AFTER THE JUDGE RULED WE'RE HERE HOW MANY OF HERE UNDERSTAND LISTENING AND TALKING IS A PART OF LEGISLATION.DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS LAND WAS BOUGHT IN JANUARY WHERE PINE ISLAND COULD HAVE HAD THREE SEPARATE SIX HOLE GOLF COURSES BUT? IT WAS CHANGED IN MAY.
THE CPO WAS CHANGED LAST. I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER WE HAVE TO BALANCE COMMUNITY PLANNING WHICH IS VALUABLE TO THE ISLAND AS WELL AS PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE OWNERS AND WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF BEAUFORT THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE ROMANTIC OKAY NEXT IS BELIEFS LOW MARKET POLICE LAMARCA AND AFTER HER IS MARIA WAS GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ESPECIALLY THIS EVENING I WAS I ATTENDED THE COUNCIL CHAT LAST WEEK AND SOMETHING IMPORTANT CAME UP FROM YOUR SOME OF YOUR CITIZENS AND IT WAS THE SUBJECT TRUST CITIZENS AND TRUST AND SEVERAL OF YOU SAID YOU WERE WORKING ON GETTING THAT BACK SO THE CITIZENS WOULD HAVE FAITH AND TRUST IN YOU. MADAM YOUR ARBITRARY DECISION TO MOVE MEETING ARE GOING TO CUT ME OFF. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS OF COUNTY INCLUDE THE CITIZENS OF THE BROAD. THEY WERE PLANNING TO ATTEND THIS MEETING BUT. MANY OF THEM COULD NOT TRAVEL BASED YOUR DECISION.
I TRUST THAT IN THE FUTURE YOU WILL ACCOMMODATE THE AGENDA AND THE GEOGRAPHY.
THANK YOU. NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PINE ISLAND PLAN WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL NOT ENTER INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT CHANGE. I'VE BEEN HERE IN THESE MEETINGS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW WATCHING MANY OF YOU SUPPORT ZONING MAP AMENDMENT CHANGES. THEY HAVEN'T ALL PASSED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THEY'VE BEEN THE ONES TO INCREASE DENSITY. SO I HAVE TO ASK WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO REVIEW YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AGAIN? WHY IS DENSITY PREFERRED OVER DOWN ZONING? YOU ALL HATE THAT WORD BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE HERE. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO REVIEW THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND GIVE THE CITIZENS WE WANT? WE DON'T WANT DENSITY. YOU HEAR THAT LOUD AND CLEAR AND MANY OF YOU WERE REFLECTING THAT AND WE APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S SINE SINCE CHANGE IS INEVITABLE AND WE MUST DIRECT THE CHANGE IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PINE ISLAND PLAN IS DOING AND IT'S GIVING BACK TO SAINT HELENA MORE THAN ANY PAYER EVER COULD.
AND WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE FUTURE IF THIS PLAN IS DEFEATED IS LOTS OF THINGS SAINT HELENA CAN'T HAVE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A TAX BASE AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD ISN'T GOING TO REALLY LIKE OUR TAXES PAYING THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT NEXT MS..
MARIA WALLS. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA REGARDING THE TELECOMMUTING POLICY. I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT MY COMMENTS TONIGHT AREN'T TO OR TALK ABOUT ANYONE BUT MY OFFICE AND MY TEAM BECAUSE OUTSIDE OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND MY TAXPAYERS THERE IS ONE THAT I HOLD IN MORE ESTEEM THAN THE PEOPLE SITTING RIGHT THERE AND THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT ARE WATCHING TONIGHT.
SINCE 2015 OUR OFFICE HAS HAD FULL TIME TELECOMMUTING EMPLOYEES.
SPOKEN ABOUT THIS OPENLY IN COUNCIL MEETINGS IN DOCUMENTS AND EMAILS AND IN MANY
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CONVERSATIONS. THESE EMPLOYEES HAVE OUR CRITERIA.THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AND THEY ARE HIGH PERFORMING MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM. 2015 IS TEN YEARS AGO. SINCE THEN WE HAVE WON 14 AWARDS MOST OF WHICH WERE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITIONS LIKE THE NATIONAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FROM THE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES WE HAVE RECEIVED TWICE.
WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY REDESIGNED AND A NEW WEBSITE WITH THE FIRST OF ITS KIND TAX DOCUMENT LOOKUP WHERE CUSTOMERS DOWNLOAD IF EVERYONE WANTS NO YOU CAN DOWNLOAD COPIES OF YOUR BUILDING OR RECEIPTS. WE GET OVER 316,000 VISITS A YEAR OVER A MILLION PAGE HITS.
AND TAX BILL LOOKUP HAS BEEN USED OVER 213,000 TIMES THIS YEAR.
WE SUCCESSFULLY LAUNCHED BEFORE COUNTIES FIRST ALL IN ONE CUSTOMER SERVICE PLATFORM ZENDESK WHERE CUSTOMERS CAN EASILY ACCESS OUR HELP CENTER GET THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED THAT THEY NEED. CALL US EMAIL. EMAIL US OR CHAT WITH OUR TEAM.
IN THE PAST YEAR OUR HELP CENTER HAS BEEN ACCESSED 9000 TIMES.
OUR TEAM HAS HANDLED 79,000 AND THIS JUST IN THE PAST YEAR 79,946 CALLS 1746 EMAILS 65,389 EMAILS, 2608 CHATS AND OUT OF ALL OF THAT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A 95.3% ONE TOUCH TICKET RATING WHICH MEANS THAT 95.3% OF ALL OF THAT REQUIRED AN EMPLOYEE TO TOUCH IT ONCE AND IT WAS SOLVED. THERE WAS NO BACK AND FORTH WITH OUR CUSTOMER ONLY 4.1% OF THOSE TICKETS NEEDED TO BE REOPENED SUCCESSFULLY CONDUCTED THE STATE'S FIRST ONLINE TAX SALE NAVIGATE TO COVID CARING FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND THEIR NEEDS WHILE ALSO ENSURING NOTICE IN THE REVENUES THAT OUR AGENCIES IN ALL OF YOU HAD BECOME TO DESPITE THE STRUGGLE UNCERTAINTY AND FOR DEVASTATION GOING ON IN OUR TEAM'S LIVES WE HAVE MAINTAINED AN OVER 99% COLLECTION RATE EVERY YEAR AND I COULD GO ON AND ON AND THE CUMULATIVE TOTAL OF INVESTMENT EARNINGS OF $90.7 MILLION. OUR RECOGNITION NATIONAL FOR OUTSTANDING INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT THAT WE'VE EARNED SIX YEARS IN A ROW THE FULLY VIRTUAL ONLINE TRAINING AND PROCEDURE MANUAL. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM GOT A GLIMPSE EARLIER TODAY.
360 DEGREE PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AND SO MUCH MORE. ALL OF THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF A REMOTE TEAM. THAT'S JUST NUMBERS. BUT THE PEOPLE ARE WHAT MATTER.
THANK YOU. I'M THE PEOPLE. WHAT NEXT? WE HAVE MS.. KIMBERLY CHESNEY. GOOD EVENING AGAIN.
I SHOULD SAY THAT I HAVE WORKED IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND HAVE SERVED UNDER THREE TREASURERS. IN THAT TIME I HAVE SEEN MANY CHANGES IN HOW WE DO OUR WORK BUT ONE THING HAS REMAINED CONSTANT OUR COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY EFFICIENTLY AND. THAT IS WHY I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO ELIMINATE VIRTUAL EMPLOYEES. THIS POLICY WOULD TAKE AWAY A PROVEN TOOL THAT HELPS US RETAIN SKILLED WORKERS AND IMPROVE. VIRTUAL STAFF HAVE SHOWN TIME AGAIN THAT THEY ARE EVERY BIT AS CAPABLE AND DEDICATED AS THOSE IN THE OFFICE.
IN FACT WHEN THE INTERNET HAS GONE DOWN AT THE COUNTY OFFICES OUR VIRTUAL TEAM MEMBERS WERE STILL ABLE TO WORK WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. CITIZENS WERE ABLE TO CARRY ON WITH WHAT THEY NEEDED NEVER EVEN KNOWING THERE HAD BEEN A PAUSE IN SERVICES INSIDE THE BUILDING KIND OF RESILIENCE IS INVALUABLE BY EXCLUDING VIRTUAL EMPLOYEES RISK LOSING BOTH TALENT AND RELIABILITY. AT A TIME WHEN GOVERNMENTS AND BUSINESSES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE EMBRACING REMOTE WORK AS A SMART MODERN SOLUTION, THIS POLICY WOULD MOVE US BACKWARDS.
I URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER. LET'S MEASURE OUR EMPLOYEES BY THE QUALITY OF THEIR WORK NOT THE WALLS OF THE OFFICE THEY SIT IN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OUR LAST LAST SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS JOSHUA CUSTER . JOSHUA, I'VE THOUGHT IT WAS MAYBE SOMETHING.
NO, I'M SORRY. CAN YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME FOR US?
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YEAH, THANK YOU ALL. SO MY NAME IS JOSHUA KATRINA. I'M A BUSINESS YES.EXTREMIST. I'M BEAUFORT COUNTY RESIDENT AND.
I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE PROPOSED TELECOMMUTING POLICY. AND JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT APPEARS THAT THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN RUSHED TO THE TABLE WITHOUT CAREFUL AND THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION, WITHOUT ELECTED OFFICIALS BEING NOTIFIED IN A TIMELY MANNER TO JUSTIFY THIS POLICY. FROM MY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND STRATEGIC DEBATE YOU WOULD NEED TO PROVE SIX MAIN THINGS AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU THOUGHT THESE THROUGH.
NUMBER ONE YOU WOULD NEED TO PROVE HOW MANY INSTANCES THERE HAVE BEEN OF AN AT HOME STAFF MEMBER NOT SUFFICIENTLY FULFILLING THEIR ROLE RESULTING IN A POOR PERFORMANCE EVALUATION. ALSO THESE INSTANCES ARE SIGNIFICANT AND.
NUMBER TWO YOU NEED TO PROVE THAT THIS WAS AN ISSUE OF THE ACTUAL SYSTEM AND NOT OF OVERHEAD LEADERSHIP. WE HAVE OFFICES LIKE TREASURER'S OFFICE THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM WHICH ARE AWARD WINNING, WHICH HAVE SUCCESSFULLY WORKED WITH AT HOME STAFF AND HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL WINNING THESE AWARDS.
THREE YOU NEED TO PROVE THAT THE COUNTY HEAD CAN KNOW THE DUTIES AND PERFORMANCE LEVEL OF EVERY STAFF MEMBER BETTER THAN THE DEPARTMENT HEAD. AGAIN THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TREASURY WORKS HARD TO ESTABLISH A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP AND TREASURER WALZ DOES THIS WITH HER STAFF. THIS RELATIONSHIP WOULD NO LONGER BE LEGALLY VALUED UNDER THE POLICY FOR YOU WOULD NEED TO PROVE THAT THE CURRENT TAX DIFFERENCES FOR THE EMPLOYEES IS SIGNIFICANTLY GREATER THAN THE INCREASE IN WAGE TO HIRE IN-PERSON EMPLOYEES AND INCREASE IN SPACE FOR THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TREASURER'S OFFICE THAT BE BY OVER 20%.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE OFFICE SPACE NUMBER FIVE YOU WOULD NEED TO PROVE THAT YOU CAN GUARANTEE EMPLOYEES WILL BE HIRED AT A HIGHER PERFORM PERFORMANCE LEVEL THAN THE ONES THAT WILL BE FIRED UNDER THIS POLICY. EVEN IN THE BEAUFORT COUNTY TREASURER'S. REMOTE EMPLOYEES ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PERFORMING STAFF . LAST BUT NOT LEAST NUMBER SIX WHAT'S THE COMMON SENSE ANSWER ? WE CAN PASS A POLICY THAT CAN FINES AND LIMIT STAFF COSTS MORE MONEY TO DIRECT EMPLOYEES AND EXPAND OFFICES OR IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WE CAN LOOK AT HOW OFFICIALS ARE PERFORMING THEIR HEAD ROLES AND CREATE A CLEAR INCLUSIVE GUIDELINES FOR AT HOME EMPLOYEES. IT'S FOR THESE REASONS THAT I'M AGAINST THE PROPOSED POLICY.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU THAT THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WE
[ 10. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]
HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE ITEMS? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND THAT MOTION FOR A SECOND VOTE COUNTS WHEN CUNNINGHAM ANY DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT.SEEING NONE I'LL VOTE BY SHOW OF HANDS FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IT IS UNANIMOUS.
MISS PAULA BROWN HAS ALSO JOINED US REMOTELY. SO WE HAVE COUNCILMAN PASS SUBMIT AND COUNCILMAN BROWN REMOTELY. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG OUR AGENDA.
[11.a. 2025/53: A resolution establishing a Capital Project Sales Tax Commission for the purpose of considering proposals for funding capital projects within the county and formulating a question to appear on the ballot in 2026.]
WE HAVE SEVERAL RESOLUTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING A CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX COMMISSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING PROPOSALS FOR FUNDING CAPITAL PROJECTS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND FORMULATING A QUESTION TO APPEAR ON THE BALLOT AND THIS WILL BE SPOKEN TO BY MR. HANK EMERSON. WE NEED A MOTION.WE NEED A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LAWSON. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
SECOND FOR DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM CLOSURES .
GOOD EVENING. WE TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEP IF COUNCIL SHOULD SO CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX BUT WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS IN EARLY 2025 TALKING ABOUT BUDGET NEEDS NEEDS FUNDING NEEDS. SEVERAL WORKSHOPS HELD BETWEEN THEN AND NOW AND ON JUNE NINE COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION STAFF TO TAKE NEXT STEPS.
SOME OF THOSE NEXT STEPS WE'RE TALKING TO MUNICIPALITIES. SOME OF THOSE NEXT STEPS WERE COUNCIL INTERACTING WITH OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS AND IN THE RECENT MONTHS THERE'S BEEN SOME INFORMATION AND DIALOG BETWEEN US AS PROFESSIONAL STAFFS AS WELL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS IN RECEIPT OF INFORMATION REITERATED MONDAY NIGHT AT OUR WORKSHOP.
BUT WE HAD ALREADY PROPOSED AT A COMMITTEE A RESOLUTION COMING TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP OF CREATING A COMMISSION THAT WOULD REVIEW THE THE PROJECTS TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL NEXT MAY
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. HEARING YOUR INTENTIONS LAST WEEK IT WAS A MIXTURE OF MAYBE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING AT ALL MAYBE WE DO CHANGE THE TRANSPORTATION AND MAYBE WE DON'T DO THAT TWO YEARS LATER. SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OPTIONS.ONE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU IS TO VOTE ON THAT RESOLUTION IF CHOOSE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX THAT WOULD BE TO VOTE DOWN THAT RESOLUTION. THE SECOND STEP WOULD EITHER WOULD BE TO DO NOTHING WHICH WOULD MEAN WE ARE GOING TO OR YOU MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF NOT TAKE ANY MORE STEPS TOWARDS A CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX THIRD OPTION WOULD BE IF VOTE IT DOWN TELL US DO NOT TAKE STEPS TOWARDS A CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX AND ADVISE US TO BRING IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING IN 26 AS OPPOSED TO JUST WAITING YOU WOULD SAY TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK AND APPROVES OPTIONS FOR A POTENTIAL 26 TRANSPORTATION AND SALES TAX. THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS IF LIKE MIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION.
QUESTION YES SIR. COUNCILMAN MIKE ALLEN YEAH, I, I HAVE READ THIS AND LET YOU KNOW AND I THINK WE HAVE TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS RATHER THAN ANOTHER SALES TAX AND I WOULD OBJECT TO THE ESTABLISHING A CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX COMMISSION FOR FOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. I DON'T OBJECT TO IT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE DEFICIENCIES IN OUR ROADS WHICH REGARD TO WHOLESALE IMPROVEMENTS AND FIXING A GREAT MANY OF THE POTHOLES EVERYBODY'S ENCOUNTERING ON EVERY DAY AS THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND. SO VOTE NO ON THIS BECAUSE I'M MORE IN FAVOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION THAN I AM ON CAPITAL PROJECTS.
THE OTHER DISCUSSION YES COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
JUST FIRST FOR THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THE TIMELINE WHETHER SOMETHING GETS VOTED ON TODAY OR WE PUSH STAFF FORWARD TO MOVE MOVE ON WITH DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS.
THE VOTE IS ABOUT DECIDING IF WE'RE GOING TO THINK ABOUT PUTTING THIS ON A BALLOT AND START BUILDING SOMETHING THAT COULD GO ON A BALLOT. THAT VOTE ACTUALLY WOULDN'T TAKE PLACE UNTIL THE SPRING TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON A BALLOT NEXT NOVEMBER OR A YEAR AFTER THAT. SO ANYTHING THAT TODAY IS JUST A CONVERSATION ABOUT TASKING OUR STAFF WITH MOVING FORWARD TO START BRINGING THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC AND MUNICIPALITIES WANT ON A REFERENDUM. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT TODAY IF SOMETHING PASSES NOT MEAN SOMETHING IS GOING ON TO A REFERENDUM NEXT NOVEMBER OR THIS NOVEMBER. WITH THAT SAID, I AM WITH MR. MCCALLION.
I LIKE THE IDEA MORE IF WE ARE GOING TO EVEN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION THAT IT IS TRANSPORTATION. I DO THINK. IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING SHORTER.
I THINK IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO A QUICK TURNAROUND PROJECTS TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WITHOUT COVID AND WITHOUT COSTS THAT WE CAN PUT THESE DOLLARS TO WORK IMMEDIATELY AND GET THINGS IMMEDIATELY AND SHOW THAT TURNAROUND BEFORE THAT $0.01 TAILS SALES TAX EVEN ENDS THEY CAN SEE PROGRESS WHETHER IT HAS REPAVING ROADS, SIDEWALKS, ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY REBUILDING AN ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE. I THINK THAT THAT WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY PROPERLY AND NOT JUST SITTING ON THE MONEY WAITING ON RATES OF EASEMENTS TO GET PROJECTS DONE WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY AT. I'VE MADE IT VERY DURING THE WORKSHOP AND I'LL MAKE IT CLEAR HERE AGAIN WITHOUT SUPPORT OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON I WILL NOT BE FAVOR OF IT.
I'M GOING TO DEDICATE TO WORKING WITH THEM THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT TO GO FORWARD TO REALISTICALLY FOR ANYTHING TO PASS AND NEEDS TO BE COUNTYWIDE. WE NEED TO HAVE PROJECTS ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
HILTON HAVE LOFT VIEW FOR PORT ROYAL ST HELENA AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
IT'S GOT TO BE A COMMUNITY EFFORT TO WANT TO GET THIS DONE AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE TO DO THAT. IF I CORRECTLY IN OUR WORKSHOP AS WELL JARED GAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT 2018 AND WHERE UPDATES ARE. WE SHOULD BE 50% SHOVEL IN THE GROUND OR FISH ON PROJECTS THE END OF 2026 WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD NUMBER.
THAT INCLUDES THE BRIDGE THAT WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED TO FORWARD TO AND IT'S ABOUT TO GO OUT TO BID. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON IT. SO AS THE MOTION IT IS NOW I WOULD NOT SUPPORT BUT I WOULD LIKE SEE STAFF MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING FOR TRANSPORTATION WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO DO A COMMITTEE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS. YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN WATSON AND I AGREE THAT I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE LOTS OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE BUT EVERYONE I TALKED TO ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD AND I REPRESENT THE BLUFFTON LIKE LIKE LOGAN DOES IT IS IT IS THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I HEAR ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY FROM 172 TO 70 8 TO 46 AND OVER THIS. SO THAT IS WHERE OUR FOCUS NEEDS TO BE. EVEN IF WE PUSHED THIS FORWARD AND WAS ON THE BALLOT FOR NEXT
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NEXT FALL, IT WOULD BE YOU THE VOTER THAT WOULD VOTE ON THIS WHETHER WE DID IT OR NOT AND FROM THERE WOULD STILL BE MONTHS AWAY BEFORE WE'D START COLLECTING THE FIRST FIRST TIME. SO EVEN IF WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TODAY ARE ACTUALLY NOT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUT THE TRANSPORTATION IDEA WE'RE STILL A YEAR OR TWO AWAY FROM.I SEE DOING ANY TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION UPGRADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, COUNCILMAN. YOU KNOW I'M IN A TOUGH SPOT BECAUSE ONE OF THE 2018 REFERENDUM ITEMS ON LADY'S ISLAND STILL HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED. I KNOW THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON THOSE AND LIKE LOGAN SAID SHOULD BE DONE 2026 AND I THINK THAT'S A KEY ITEM TO REESTABLISHING TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WE CAN MANAGE THOSE FUNDS BUT THE TOUGH PART FOR ME IS I'M IN THE CITY OF UVA'S WATERFRONT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WATERFRONT IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO HAVE TO BE REPLACED AND THAT IS A HUGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE ARE GOING TO BE THE BROADER FISHING PIER NEEDS TO COME DOWN. THERE'S NO FUNDING REPLACE THEM. THERE'S BOAT LAUNCHES ALL THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY THAT NEED TO BE BASICALLY REPLACED AND REPAIRED. THERE'S NO FUNDING FOR IT.
SO IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS I WOULD PREFER A SALES SALES TAX SOLELY FOR THE REASON IS INFRASTRUCTURE CAN ALSO BE DONE UNDERNEATH THE CAPITAL TAX. BUT LIKE I SAID, I JUST DON'T THINK WITHOUT THOSE OTHER PROJECTS FROM 2018 BEING DONE I DON'T THINK THE TIME IS RIGHT TO PUT THE EFFORT AND I THINK HAVE TO SHOW THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE TRUSTWORTHY TO DO IT.
I'D LIKE TO ASK COUNCILMAN PERSIMMON AND COUNCILMAN BROWN IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
COUNCILMAN PRESIDENT NO, I'LL GO FIRST. OBVIOUSLY ROADS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY 170 AND 278 AFFECT EVERY SINGLE MUNICIPALITY UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY.
THE BOTTLENECK BETWEEN 462 AND THE IN THE OF 170 AND 278 EVERY DAY IS GETTING WORSE IT WAS STATED EVEN IF WE HAVE A REFERENDUM IN 26 WE DON'T START COLLECTING THE MONEY UNTIL MAY OF 27. WE HAVE TO COLLECT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THOSE PROJECTS. I DARESAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE A MINIMUM NEED OF A FOUR YEAR TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM TO RAISE ENOUGH MONEY JUST TO FIX THAT SECTION OF ROAD ALONG COUNCILMAN BROWN. DO YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
I THINK COUNCILMAN DOMINIC COMMENTS. SO I'VE DONE A LOT OF TALKING TO PEOPLE. MY CONCERNS ARE WE HAVEN'T DONE THE 2018 PROJECTS.
I GET IT. JARED SAYS WE'RE MOVING ALONG. THERE WERE ISSUES.
THE MONEY'S STILL THERE. WE HAVEN'T USED IT IN IN IN OTHER WAYS.
THE 278 BRIDGE WILL NOT EVEN BE A SHOVEL THE GROUND BY THEN. SO PEOPLE AGAIN ARE GOING TO SAY TO US WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE BRIDGE? WHERE'S 80 MILLION? I ALSO REITERATE ONE OF OUR PEOPLE SAID IT CAME OUT IN THE REALTORS POLL THE TRUST LEVEL IS LOW NOT ONLY COUNTY COUNCIL IT'S ACROSS GOVERNMENT. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
THIS WOULD BE A NEW TAX. YES, IT'S A PENNY BUT IT'S A NEW TAX IN 24 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REPLACEMENT. THE GREENSPACE WAS ROLLING OFF. THIS WOULD HAVE REPLACED IT WOULD BE A NEW TAX A CONCERN FOR ME. SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF A CAPITAL AND I'M ACTUALLY LEANING FURTHER TO PUSHING IT OUT 2028.
ANYONE ELSE THAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCILMAN GLOVER? SURE, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
I THINK WE GAVE STAFF A DIRECTION AND THEY CAME BACK WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.
NOW WHETHER WE LOOK AT THE CAPITAL PROJECT OR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, THIS IS WHAT THE WE TALKED ABOUT IT WORKS SESSIONS AND I AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS FORWARD AT THIS TIME SO THAT STAFF CAN PREPARE AND STAFF CAN BRING US SOMETHING IN A REASONABLE TIME AND NOT WAIT AT THE LAST MINUTE FOR SOMETHING. NOW WE HAVE AN UP UNTIL THEN WHEN THEY BRING BACK THEY PROBABLY HOPEFULLY BY FEBRUARY THEY DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK STAFF NEED TO GO IN PLAN MEET WITH WHEN THIS MUNICIPAL AND MOVE THIS THING FORWARD. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT. IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU WANT IT TO
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BE A CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX OR TRANSPORTATION TAX THIS RESIDENT THIS RESOLUTION IS TO ESTABLISH THE ACTUAL CAPITAL PROJECT SALES TAX STATUTORILY REQUIRED COMMISSION THAT SOLICITS, RECEIVES, FORMULATES AND PRESENTS A QUESTION TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL NEXT YEAR.SO IF YOU WANT US TO DO SOMETHING ELSE YOU WOULD THEN YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION FOR THIS COMMISSION AND MAKE A SIMPLE MOTION TO HAVE US BRING BACK INFORMATION IN THE FUTURE NEAR FUTURE ABOUT IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER 2026 TRANSPORT.
COUNCILMAN DAWSON HAD COMMENTS LIKE THE COMMENTS THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SHARED.
I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY ARE HAS NO TRUST AND FAVOR OF SUPPORTING ANOTHER SALES TAX RATHER AS CAPITAL OR TRANSPORTATION AND I WOULD I WOULD SAY THAT I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS TODAY AND IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THEN IT NEEDS BE IN MY OPINION A TRANSPORTATION SALE TAX.
BUT UNTIL WE COMPLETE THE PROJECTS AND THE 2018 REFERENDUM SALES TAX, WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET THE PUBLIC TO THE PROPOSAL.
CHAIRMAN, I JUST. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? COUNCILMAN REED AND THEN I HAVE A COME ONE LAST THING FROM EVERYBODY I'M TALKING TO MOST PEOPLE.
I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT IF WE PUSH IT OUT TO 28 THAT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER.
SO I'D JUST LIKE TO HAVE ONE COMMENT. ALL OF MY PRECINCTS IN THE 20 THE LAST ONE, 2024 IT FAILED. THE SALES TAX DID. BUT I HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT 170 PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET TO WORK FROM NORTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY TO ELSE.
BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION JUST TO DISCUSS IT WE HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH THE RESOLUTION AND WE HAVE A RESOLUTION SO WE NEED TO VOTE IT UP OR DOWN. WHAT WE HAD TO DO WE HAD TO PASS WE HAVE WE HAD A DISCUSSION PASS OR FAIL IT. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
IT'S ON THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE. I THINK MY CORRECT BRIAN AND THEN THE MOTION HAS BEEN TO PASS THE RESOLUTION THE TAKE A VOTE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION NOT.
IF THEY VOTED DOWN THEN WE'LL LOOK FOR A VOTE AS WHETHER OR NOT STAFF SHOULD TAKE ANY FURTHER STEPS AT THIS TIME. OKAY ALL RIGHT. LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION. COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON, MARK NO. COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM NO.
COUNCILMEMBER READS A COUNCILMEMBER PASSING IT. NO.
COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN. NO. COUNCILMAN GLOVER YES.
COUNCILMEMBER DODSON OH. COUNCILMEMBER BROWN NO. COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW NO.
VICE CHAIR TABACHNICK NO. CHAIR HOWARD THE MOTION FAILS. OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION, MADAM CHAIR? YES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING US. I GUESS AN IDEA IN THE NEAR FUTURE ABOUT WHAT A TRAIN, A SHORT TRANSPORTATION RUN REFERENDUM WOULD LOOK LIKE.
HAVE A SECOND MATERIAL SECOND AMENDMENT BY COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW.
ANY DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE NO. I THINK.
QUESTION. QUESTION REPEAT IT AGAIN. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING FORWARD A SHORT AN OPTION FOR A SHORT TRANSPORTATION REFERENDUM NO DATE, NO TIME FOR DISCUSSION TO HAVE STAFF BRING SOMETHING FORWARD TO US TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT SHOULD BE 2028 OR IF IT SHOULD BE 2026. I'LL BE HONEST.
YOU KNOW ME I DON'T LIKE SNEAKING THINGS ON TO AN OFF ELECTION.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR YEARS. SO OKAY WE NOW IS NOW OPEN FOR DISCUSSION COUNCILMAN DAWSON. DID YOU HAVE ANY ANSWER TO MY QUESTION? NO. NO DATE. OKAY.
WE CAN HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ABOUT. YES, SIR.
COUNCILMAN GLOVER MADAM CHAIRMAN, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO AGAINST THIS BECAUSE WHEN YOU START TALKING SHORT TERM RESOLUTIONS I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS AND CHANCES ARE SHORT TERM THEY WOULD NOT INCLUDE ME. THANK YOU.
OKAY. OKAY. AND DID YOU WANT TO DEFINE.
YEAH. WHEN YOU'RE I GUESS YOU KNOW I WOULDN'T WANT TO AMEND IT AT ALL. I THINK I WOULD REBUTTAL ACTUALLY I THINK GREEN SPACE WAS A SHORT TERM REFERENDUM AND IS IMPACTING THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND THAT WAS A TWO YEAR REFERENDUM SO I WOULD JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL FORWARD BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD I'D LIKE TO SEE ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE BUT MAYBE SPECIFIC ITEMS IN DIFFERENT AREAS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME SOMETHING THE MUNICIPALITIES WILL BE LOOKING FOR OKAY THAT'S JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TAKEN OUT OF WORKSHOP DISCUSSIONS WAS TO TAKE SOME OF THE SPECIFICITY FROM THE CAPITAL PROJECTS IF WE WERE TO COME BACK WITH A FUTURE TRANSPORTATION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
LET'S WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER
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CUNNINGHAM. YES. COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW.YES. COUNCILMEMBER REED'S YES. COUNCILMEMBER IT YES.
COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN YES. COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON YES.
COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER NO. COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON YES. VICE CHAIR TAVERNIER YES.
COUNCILMEMBER BROWN YES. CHAIR HOWARD YES. MOTION PASSES OKAY.
[11.b. 2025/55: A Resolution amending the Beaufort County Personnel Handbook Policy Section 3.3 Remote Work/Telecommuting, A-9 County Emergency Disaster Policy, and A-10 Beaufort County Emergency Attendance & Pay Policy.]
THANK MR. AMAZON. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.THE NEXT ONE IS 2020 555 A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BEAUFORT COUNTY PERSONNEL HANDBOOK POLICY SECTION 3.3 REMOTE WORK SLASH TELECOMMUTING A NINE COUNTY EMERGENCY DISASTER POLICY AND A TEN BEAUFORT COUNTY EMERGENCY ATTENDANCE AND PAY POLICY.
AND MS.. CATHERINE MEADE IS HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.
I'LL PUT THE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR PLEASE FOR THE HANDBOOK POLICY IMPROVEMENTS WE HAVE A SECOND I'LL SECOND MADAM CHAIR SECOND VOTE COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM.
ANY DISCUSSION I'D LIKE TO HEAR CAPTAIN FIRST. SURE.
I ACTUALLY HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ALL AFTER COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO PROCEED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE DISASTER POLICY ONLY AT THIS TIME AND REMANDING THE REMOTE WORK POLICY BACK TO THE OCTOBER FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING. WE HAVE RECENTLY LEARNED THAT THE STATE GOVERNOR OF SOUTH CAROLINA SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ON SEPTEMBER 11TH TO ALSO REVISE STATE REMOTE WORK POLICY.
AND WHILE SOME OF THE VERBIAGE OUR PROPOSED POLICY LINED UP PRETTY CLOSE, THERE IS SOME THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE WE'RE FURTHER ALIGNED WITH THE STATE SO IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF TONIGHT AND GIVE A COMMENT FOR MS..
MEAD? MM HMM. SO WE WOULD REMAND THE REMOTE WORKING AND I DO HAVE SOME ITEMS I WOULD YOU TO ADDRESS WHEN YOU COME BACK TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THAT IS PLEASE FULLY EXAMINE THE NEW POLICY FROM THE GOVERNOR.
I MEAN I READ IT THERE'S NOT MUCH MEAT ON IT BUT WHATEVER GATHER INFORMATION HAVE SIMILAR POLICIES EMPLOYED BY OTHER COUNTIES OF OUR SIZE. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT A TINY BABY COUNTY DOES. I'M INTERESTED A BIG COUNTY INVESTIGATE POSSIBLE ISSUES THAT MAY WHEN A BEAUFORT COUNTY EMPLOYEE IS WORKING FOR THIS COUNTY WHILE RESIDING IN ANOTHER STATE IN OTHER WORDS TAX LEGAL ISSUES COMPLYING WITH EMPLOYMENT ISSUES SUCH AS RULES FOR WAGES, OVERTIME LEAVE IN ENTITLEMENT. I'LL GIVE YOU THIS WHEN I'M DONE NEED TO REGISTER THE COUNTY IN THE NEW STATE ETC. WITHHOLDING AND EXPLORE EXEMPTING ELECTED OFFICIALS STAFF AT THE DISCRETION OF THE ELECTED OFFICIAL.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT WOULD IT BE? WHAT DO OTHERS DO AND THEN PREPARE TO BRING THIS TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IN OCTOBER . OKAY.
AND MADAM CHAIR, FOR ME JUST ONE GOOD POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND I THINK ANALYZE WHEN GOING THROUGH THIS IS THE RESILIENCY BECAUSE I KNOW I HAD TO CHANGE IN OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS RECENTLY BECAUSE MY INTERNET KEPT GOING OUT BUT IF OUR STAFF HAD THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS BECAUSE WE WERE SPREAD OUT WITH THAT REMOTE WORK I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE ACTUALLY NEED TO LOOK AT EXPLORING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL GOING BACK IN THAT COMMITTEE. OKAY. OKAY.
NEXT STEP. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM? YES, MA'AM. YEAH, I WOULD. I'VE BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF THIS BEFORE. A LOT OF OTHERS HAVE. I DO NOT BELIEVE COUNTY COUNCIL HAS JURISDICTION OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS WHAT TO DO OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET THAT IS SUBMITTED TO US. THE ONLY THING THAT WE'VE EVER BUMPED HEADS OVER THAT I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD THAT SENSE OF RIGHT THERE OF WHAT MONEY GOES TO EMPLOYEES AND THEN IF THAT'S FILLED OR NOT TO RELEASE FUNDS WHICH WE'VE CLEARED UP YEARS AGO NOW.
SO I BELIEVE TAB DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TO FULFILL EACH REQUEST.
YEAH I THINK MISS MEAD SAID WE WOULD APPROVE THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE DISASTER PART OF THE POLICY AND TO I WAS GOING TO SAY JETTISON BUT TO REMAND THIS SECTION ABOUT REMOTE TELECOMMUTING TO BACK TO ADMINISTRATION FOR THE ITEMS I LISTED TO COME BACK TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. WHAT ABOUT EMERGENCY ATTENDANCE AND PAY INCLUDING THAT RIGHT THAT'S IN THE DISASTER PAY. YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
IN THE BACK THERE IS ALREADY ANOTHER RESOLUTION PREPARED ASSUMING THAT WE WOULD GO THAT DIRECTION TO ONLY APPROVE THE DISASTER THE EMERGENCY PAY. IT'S ON PAGE 66 IN THE PACKET SO DISASTER AND EMERGENCY PAY WOULD MOVE FORWARD. I HATE TO REMIND EVERYBODY WE'RE IN HURRICANE SEASON FOR US. IS IT WE'RE HITTING THE PEAK AND WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR EMPLOYEES BUT THE TELECOMMUTING CAN GO BACK.
I THINK ROBERT HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. YES, IT'LL TAKE A MOTION TO AMEND TO REMAND THE REMOTE WORK POLICY BACK TO COMMITTEE AND TO PASS THE SUBSTITUTED RESOLUTION
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THAT'S BEEN SUPPLIED. BUT THAT'S WHAT I DID. OKAY.I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT SHE SHE DID. THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I JUST DID. THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS JUST REITERATING THAT I SECONDED AND IT WAS SOMETHING TO AMEND. OKAY SORRY. I SEE THAT IS HARD TO HEAR JUST JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE AUDIENCE TAB CAN YOU AMEND THE CURRENT RESOLUTION? YEAH, I THINK MR. OLIVER'S GOING TO GIVE ME THE BETTER IF I DON'T, I'M GOING TO AMEND THE CURRENT RESOLUTION TO I'M GOING TO APPROVE THE HANDBOOK SECTION ON DISASTER PAY EMERGENCY PAY AND REMAND THE SECTION ON REMOTE WORKING AND TELL A COMMUTING BACK TO ADMINISTRATION WITH THE ITEMS LISTED TO RETURN BACK TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AFTER.
FURTHER DISCUSSION AND INVESTIGATION NOW SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM.
OKAY. NO MORE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY, ONE, TWO AND JUST ONE.
YES, SIR. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS AMENDMENT FIRST. YEAH, WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST. YES, WELL WE WILL. ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE AT THIS THE AMENDMENT ARE YOU ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE AMENDMENT OR THE THE DISASTER? ARE YOU MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT THE AMENDMENT OR ABOUT THE OTHER? I'M MAKING COMMENT ABOUT THE POLICIES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLY EARLIER.
I WILL WAIT FOR THE VOTE AND IF YOU COME BACK TO ME, MAKE MY COMMENTS.
OKAY THANK YOU ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT BY SHOW OF HANDS.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES, YOU KNOW.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS I DO AND I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT IT IS THAT WE HAD A PRESENTATION A MONTH AGO FROM THE CITIZENS OF HILTON HEAD I BELIEVE THAT TALKED ABOUT DAY CARE FOR OUR WORKERS, FOR WORKING PEOPLE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR REFLECT THAT SOMEHOW HOW DO WE ADDRESS DAY CARE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. JUST I JUST WANT TO THROW OKAY COUNCILMAN GLOVER I'M NOT SURE IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT DISCUSSION BUT WELL IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GERMANE TO THIS PROPOSAL AND WE DO HAVE A PERSONNEL WORKSHOP UP SOON AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT MAYBE WE CAN BRING IT UP THERE IF IT'S SOMETHING I'M HOPING THAT IT WILL BE REFLECTING IN THE POLICY ITSELF GOING FORWARD. IT'S NOT ON THIS AGENDA THOUGH ,COUNCILMAN.
YES, SIR. I'M SURE MR. GLOVER, IF YOU GO TO ITEM E ON HERE IN THE RESOLUTION THERE'S A TRACK HERE THAT FORWARD. YEAH, WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT THAT POINT THAT WOULD BE GERMANE TO IT. ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AMENDED RESOLUTION ALL IN FAVOR RESOLUTION AS AMENDED WAS YES, SIR. JUST ANY VOTE ON THERE. YEAH.
EVERYONE ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE DONE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS, CATHERINE, BECAUSE I KNOW.
[11.c. 2025/56: A Resolution authorizing the County Administrator to execute the documents necessary and to provide funds to the Town of Bluffton for their procurement of fee simple real property located in Bluffton, known as the Buckwalter PUD Tracts - Parcel 5A and Parcel 5B (PIN# R610 030 000 0138 0000, R610 030 000 1971 0000), not to exceed the requested amount ($2,143,678)]
I READ IT FAST. OKAY? YOU CAN SEE THE NEXT ONE IS 2020 556 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY AND TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO THE TOWN OF OF BLUFFTON FOR THEIR PROCUREMENT OF FACE SIMPLE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN KNOWN AS BUCKO WALTER PUDI TRACKS FIVE A AND PARCEL FIVE A AND PARCEL FIVE B THE PIN NUMBER IS ARE 61003000001380000R6100300001971.NOT TO EXCEED THE REQUESTED AMOUNT OF $2 MILLION 100 $143,608.
MR.. AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION HERE TO PRESENT RESOLUTION FOR THE PARCELS 585 B SOMEBODY NEEDS SECONDLY IN. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOU PRESENT MR. MCSHANE. YES, MADAM CHAIRMAN. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MIKE MCSHANE, A RESIDENT OF CHARLESTON COUNTY AND I SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THIS COUNCIL YOUR GREENSPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN. I'M JOINED TODAY BY MY ON THE COMMITTEE SENATOR TOM DAVIS ON THE BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME GREENSPACE OR NATURAL RESOURCES TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE AS YOU DESCRIBE FOR PERSONS FIVE AND PARCEL FIVE BE LET ME MAKE IT REAL CLEAR BECAUSE THIS CONFUSES PEOPLE THIS PARCEL FIVE A IN PARCEL FIVE B NOT ANYTHING TO DO COINCIDENTALLY WITH PERSPECTIVE ROAD THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED CALLED 5BI THINK CHERYL'S GOT ON THE ON THE MAP WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TWO TRUCKS COME TOGETHER FOR ABOUT 240 PLUS OR SO ACRES THERE IS I THINK RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT
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THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AT THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF GREENSPACE HAS NOW UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE PARCEL 5C5C IS A 55 ACRES THAT CONNECTS THESE TWO TRACKS. IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE OF TAKING ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL OFF ALL THOSE THREE TRACKS WOULD HAPPEN UNDER PRESUMING COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THIS IN A FUTURE DATE PARCEL FOR C FOR THAT THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION MADAM CHAIRMAN ABOUT WANTING THE RESTRICTIONS THAT COME WITH THE GRANT TO TAKE AWAY ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT A POTENTIAL ROAD A FUTURE ROAD.TO BE CLEAR TO CANCEL THE TOWN IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT A PREEXISTING EASEMENT ON THAT ROAD PRIOR TO OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY THAT WILL STAY WITH THE BUT I'LL OFFER COUNSEL THAT BY PUTTING THE GRANT RESTRICTION FROM GREENSPACE INTO RESTRICTION FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA CONSERVATION BANK WHICH MET LAST FOR DISCLOSURE I SERVE AS CHAIRMAN OF THAT THAT YOU'LL HAVE TWO ENTITIES THAT HAVE APPLIED RESTRICTIONS ON ANY DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL ON THOSE TRACKS. IT WILL MOST LIKELY MAKE THIS ALMOST AN IMPOSSIBLE COMPELLING STORY TO HAVE AN MUNICIPALITY SPEND THE MONEY TO BUILD A ROAD BY DOING SO. THIS IS THE BEST WAY COMMUNITY TODAY CAN OFFER PUTTING RESTRICTIONS ON THIS ON THESE TWO TRACKS SUBSEQUENT TO COME BACK FOR PARCEL FIVE SEE SENATOR DAVIS AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN OUR STATE ROLES WITH THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND TOURISM ABOUT WORKING WITH THE TOWN ABOUT HELPING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO EXPAND THE USE OF THIS PARK. BY DOING SO YOU THEN INCORPORATE HAVING A THIRD ENTITY INVOLVED INTO THE OVERSIGHT OF WHAT WOULD GO ON THERE IF. A DISCUSSION WAS HELD TO TO A ROAD THROUGH WOULD REQUIRE A WHOLE PUBLIC PROCESS AND MOST LIKELY CREATING EMINENT DOMAIN NEED NOT TO MENTION THE MITIGATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE FOR ANY PERMITTING ON ANY OF THE WETLANDS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT AREA. SO I THINK IT MAKES IT SUCH A HIGH THAT I CANNOT SAY THERE IS NO CHANCE BUT I SAY QUICKLY LOW CHANCE OF HAVING ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT ON THIS.
WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. ABOUT CHAIRMAN THANK YOU.
SO MR. MCSHANE SENATOR DAVIS, THANKS FOR JOINING US. THE CONSTITUENTS HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME AS WE COULD PUT A CONDITION IN THERE THAT THE ROAD THIS COULD ONLY BE GRAVEL OR DIRT ROAD TALKING ABOUT A POTENTIAL ROAD POTENTIAL POTENTIAL PREEMPTING THE OTHER IN MANY CASES GRANTS CAN PUT CONDITIONS IN THIS CASE THE EASEMENT ON THE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE ROAD COULD BE BUILT AS PREEXISTED THIS GRANT. SO WE CANNOT GO TO DO THAT TODAY WHAT WE CAN IS IS CONTINUE THE ENCOURAGEMENT THAT IF A ROAD AGAIN A ROAD WERE TO BE DISCUSSED THEY WOULD CONSIDER DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST ASKED FOR US.
SHERMAN ON DOING SO BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANCE FOR THIS COUNTY IN COMING FROM A COUNTY THAT SEES THIS ROAD TO THE POINT WHERE WE MANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS MADE IN ANOTHER COUNTY THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN BY THIS ACTION YOU ARE TAKING ALL OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT POTENTIALLY ON WHAT WILL BE NEARLY HUNDRED ACRES BY THE END OF THIS PROJECT. AND I THINK IT'S EXCITING IN BLUFFTON WE HAD NOTHING THERE LITERALLY SO THIS IS VERY I'M VERY ENCOURAGED BY THIS. WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS I'M SURE. YES. OH, WHAT WHAT'S IT WHAT'S THE TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE ON THIS IS 2 MILLION AND SOME CHANGE OUR CONTRIBUTION TO IT OR IS THE BECAUSE WE DON'T WE HONESTLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THE PACKET FOR THIS ONE OR THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE THE AIR FORCE THE RESOLUTION, THE MAP. SO I MEAN I DON'T SO THE PURCHASE PRICE ON THIS AGAIN PARCEL A AND PARCEL FAR BE IS $2,240,000 IT APPRAISED AT 2,445,000 SO I MUST GIVE THE TOWN SOME CREDIT AND SOME NEGOTIATION SKILLS THERE ON THE STATE BANK IS A LITTLE OVER $150,000 TO GO IN. IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE AMOUNT IT'S THE FACT THAT THE STATE BANK HAS PUT ITS RESTRICTIONS ON THIS AS WELL.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM, I MEAN THIS IS RIGHT IN THE HEART OF MY DISTRICT WE'VE BEEN TALKING
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ABOUT SINCE BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL SO. HOW DO I GO BACK TO MY CONSTITUENTS AND TELL THEM THAT THIS ISN'T ONE OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON PUTTING IN FIVE BE IS ON THE ROAD FOR THE ACTUAL ROAD FOR THAT CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY? I THINK MR. CUNNINGHAM, YOU CAN OFFER YOUR CONSTITUENCIES THAT YOU'VE WHAT YOU CAN IN TERMS OF THIS PROGRAM TO ELIMINATE POSSIBLE COMPELLING CASE FOR WHY ROAD WOULD EVER NEED TO BE BUILT ON THIS AND THE FACT THAT IT WILL BE AN ACTIVE PART IN CONCERT WITH THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN THE STATE PARKS AND RECREATION TOURISM UNDER THE OVERSIGHT OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL MAKE THIS REALLY CHALLENGING FOR ANYONE TO DECIDE THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ON THE ROAD THIS PART IN THIS 300 ACRES AND I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION I'D HAVE ON IT TOP PORTION I BELIEVE IS BEING PURCHASED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. ARE THEY GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PUT A ROAD FOR AN EXTRA ACCESS POINT THAT CONNECTS DOWN TO THIS TO 78? DO NOT HAVE ANY SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THAT. I KNOW THAT THE TOWN OF HAS A REPRESENTATIVE HERE. YEAH I THINK THEY'RE BUILDING ROADS TO 278 THE SCHOOL THE SCHOOL THE NORTHERN PORTAL OR THE UPPER PART OF THE TRUCK IS GOING BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE A ROAD ACCESS THROUGH THIS TRUCK THAT IT'S NOT CAN YOU CAN YOU COME UP FRONT SO WE CAN HEAR EVERYONE CAN HEAR YOU BUSINESSMEN COME ON THEM THANK YOU.GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. FELICIA ROTH, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS MATTER TODAY. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL BE REQUIRED TO PUT IN A ROAD IN THE TOP PORTION OF A PARCEL THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS AND THAT IS NOT COMPLETE YET. NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO DO THAT. OF COURSE THAT IS NOT THIS PARTICULAR MATTER BEFORE YOU TODAY THAT IS IT IS A DIFFERENT MATTER AND THAT DEAL HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN? YOU PART OF IT? YES, MA'AM. LAST PART I WOULD SAY IS THE PARCEL A THAT IS ON THERE ORIGINALLY SELLER HAD A ROAD THAT SUPPOSED TO GO IN AND THEN I IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY WHEN THIS GOT BROUGHT FORWARD COUPLE OF YEARS AGO NOT FOR GREENSPACE BUT JUST FOR PURCHASE THAT THE SELLER WAS REQUIRING OR THE COUNTY WAS REQUIRING A ROAD TO GO THROUGH.
THERE USED TO BE ON THE MAP THAT SAID FUTURE ROAD. MY QUESTION IS WAS THAT IS IT WAS THAT ALREADY GIVEN AN THROUGH PARCEL A NOT THROUGH THE POWER LINES BUT WAS THE EASEMENT GIVEN THROUGH PARCEL A AS WELL BECAUSE IF SO THEY WOULD HAVE THAT EASEMENT THROUGH ALL OF PARCEL A AND THROUGH B AND C WHICH WOULD BE THE CONNECTOR UP TO 78 TO 5 FEET. CUNNINGHAM YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHAT IS THE EXISTING EASEMENT THAT PREDATES THIS APPLICATION THAT EXISTS ON YES SIR. THAT DOES EXIST NOW ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? RIGHT. WE HAD A MOTION IN A SECOND.
DO WE NEED DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
OKAY. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. MS..
BRYANT VICE CHAIR. CABINET YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MCGOWAN YES TO COUNCIL MEMBER REED'S YES. COUNCIL MEMBER PASSMAN YES. COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON.
MARK LAWSON YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES. COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON YES.
COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM NO. COUNCILMEMBER BROWN YES. COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW NO CHAIR HOW. HOW HOWARD? YES THE MOTION PASSES OKAY.
[11.d. 2025/57: A Resolution authorizing the County Administrator to execute the documents necessary and to provide funds to contribute to the procurement by The Open Space Institute on behalf of the applicant, The Open Land Trust, for the acquisition of fee simple real property located in Beaufort County, known as the Buckfield Tracts - Phase I (Pin# R700-005-000-0004-0000, R700-005-000- 0002-0000, R700-005-000-001C-0000, R700-005-000-0001-0004, R700-005-000-0005-0000, R700-001-000-0013-0000, R710-001-000-0020-0000, R710-001-000-0013-0000), not to exceed the requested amount ($7,000,000)]
THANK YOU THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE ON OUR LIST IS ANOTHER GREENSPACE PROJECT 2020 557 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROCUREMENT BY THE OPEN INSTITUTE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT LAND TRUST FOR THE ACQUISITION OF FEE SIMPLE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN BEAUFORT COUNTY KNOWN AS THE BUTTERFIELD TRACKS PHASE IS IN 70000500000040000 ARE 70000500000020000 R7 00005000001C 0000.I KNOW THIS IS TEDIOUS BUT I WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. ARE 70000500000010004 OUR
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70000500000050000 ARE SEVENS 0001 SO THERE 100000130000 ARE 71000100000200000 ARE 71000100000130000 NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $7 MILLION. THANK YOU, MR. MCSHANE.THANK YOU. AND SHE THINKS TO REPEAT THAT BACK NOTICE BROOKFIELD SHE SAID SO TONIGHT IS ANOTHER BOOK I'D LIKE TO ASK THE AUDIENCE TO KIND OF QUIET DOWN WE CAN'T HEAR THANK YOU SO TONIGHT WAS THE NIGHT OF BOOKS WE WILL BOOK WALTER TONIGHT AND THIS IS NO BOOK FIELD THIS IS IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY THAT CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS MR. PRESIDENT MRS. BROWN, I STRESS YOU THIS IS A PROJECT IN PERSONAL RELATIONS HAS BEEN I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT I'VE BEEN TOLD I DID NOT DO THE MOTION AFTER I READ ALL THOSE NUMBERS I'LL MAKE THE MOTION MADAM CHAIR DO WE HAVE A SECOND AISLE SECOND? I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU BUT I CAN GO THIS THAT CONSERVATION HAS BEEN SEEKING AFTER FOR WELL OVER A DECADE EVEN GOING BACK TO MY TIME SERVING ON THE DNR BOARD THIS IS A TUNNEL PROJECT THAT AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE THE MAP THAT IS NOT JUST IN COUNTY.
IT INCLUDES JASPER HAMPTON COUNTY TRACKS. IT'S A BUILT ABOUT 2600 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES TOTAL. THIS WILL BECOME STATE FOREST WHICH WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC RECREATIONAL USE BY THE FACT THAT CREATED A GREEN SPACE PROGRAM IS WHY THIS PROJECT SO EVEN HERE LET ME EXPRESS THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY HAD IT NOT BEING FOR DIFFERENT COUNTIES GREENSPACE PROGRAM WE STILL WOULD TRYING TO TALK AND NEGOTIATE AT THE STATE LEVEL ABOUT ACQUIRING THIS FOREST STATE FOREST YOU ARE THE THE DOMINANT PLAYER IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND BY INITIATE THIS TONIGHT ON THE COUNTY INVESTMENT YOUR 7 MILLION IS WHOLLY ON THE COUNTY MATCH BUT WITH THE STATE PRODUCING THE DELTA THAT EVEN ENABLE THE SELLER TO CONSIDER GOING TO CONTRACT ON THE HAMPTON AND COUNTY TRACKS.
HAD WE NOT HAD $7 MILLION EVEN IF THE STATE HAD ACQUIRED IN APPROVED THE NEARLY 5 MILLION THE STATE'S PUTTING IT THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED BECAUSE THE SELLER MADE IT CLEAR IT HAD TO BE ALL HAD TO BE WHAT'S IN JASPER COUNTY HAMPTON COUNTY AND BEAUFORT COUNTY YOU MADE THIS HAPPEN. THIS IS A LEGACY PROJECT FOR GREENSPACE THAT ENABLED THE STATE TO LEVERAGE $5 MILLION NEARLY $5 MILLION INTO WHAT WILL BE FIRST STATE THE NEW FIRST STATE FOREST TO THROUGH IN SOME TIME. ALL RIGHT.
WE HAD A MOTION AND SECOND ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS FROM MR. MCSHANE? YES, SIR. MR. MUSHAIT WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU AND THE GREEN SPACE DILIGENT WORK TO SECURE THIS THIS PROPERTY THESE PROPERTIES WHICH IS UP NEAR THE WESTERN END OF SHOW ON AREA THE JASPER COUNTY LINE THIS IS SOME PRISTINE MARSHY AREA TOO BUT TWO FOR YOU AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS ON THE GREEN SPACE TO ACTUALLY SECURE THIS AND ACTUALLY HAVE THE STATE PLAY A ROLE IN THIS TO WHERE WE WILL HAVE A STATE PARK ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC TO ENJOY SOME OF THE PRISTINE WATERS AND TREES AND VEGETATION THAT IS IN THIS IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU. MR. DAWSON.
I'LL POINT OUT ON THAT MAP THAT SHOWN YOU CAN SEE THE DARK GREEN THAT WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH OF THIS TRACK IS THE NEW SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION HAS WILDLIFE AREA ABOVE THIS IS THE ERNEST HOLLINGS FEDERAL WILDLIFE REFUGE YOU'RE NOW HELPING CONNECT THIS FABULOUS ECO SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO THAT GOES THROUGH THREE COUNTIES.
IT NEARLY GOES TO THE SAVANNAH RIVER. THIS IS GOING TO BE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT I THINK BE VERY ATTRACTIVE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO COME TO AND ENJOY YOUR BENEFIT. AND AGAIN, IT'S BECAUSE COUNTY
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CREATED A GREEN SPACE PROGRAM. WE WOULD NOT BE THIS DISCUSSION OTHERWISE.THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THIS IS GOING BE A GREAT ADDITION TO OUR WILDLIFE CORRIDORS TOO.
YES, SIR COUNCILMAN GLOVER, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT MR. MACHETE JUST SAID AND I WANT TO MARCH WITH YOU FROM THE RIVER TO THE EAST PRECINCT. THANK YOU, SIR.
SAVANNAH RIVER ON THAT IS THE GOAL SIR TO GO FROM THE SAVANNAH TO THE STATION? YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN CUNNINGHAM WANTED TO SAY THIS IS THE GREENSPACE A REFERENDUM THAT WE DID THAT IS WORKING FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND IT WAS A SHORT REFERENDUM.
IT'S FOR SEVERAL COUNTIES TOO TO THEIR ADVANTAGE. JASPER COUNTY.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION.
CALL THE QUESTION ON OUR FIRST SHOW OF HANDS. RIGHT.
AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. WEEKS AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY . IT'S NOT EVERY DAY GET TO PRESERVE 2600 ACRES.
[11.e. 2025/58: A Resolution to express Beaufort County Council's support of a childcare and early learning demonstration project utilizing the tri-share funding model in Beaufort and Jasper counties and such other counties as may be appropriate]
ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT RESOLUTION IS 2020 558 A RESOLUTION TO EXPRESS COUNTY'S COUNCIL'S SUPPORT OF CHILD CARE AND EARLY LEARNING DEMONSTRATION PROJECT UTILIZING THE TRI SHARE FUNDING MODEL IN BEAUFORT AND JASPER IN SUCH OTHER COUNTIES AS MAY BE APPROPRIATE. I HAVE A MOTION MADAM CHAIR. I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION ON THE FLOOR. WE HAVE SECONDED THE SECOND COUNCIL WHATEVER ANY DISCUSSION AT YES, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY. THIS CAME THROUGH MY COMMITTEE, THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE AND I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS ONE. THIS WOULD BE A PILOT PROGRAM WHERE HOPEFULLY CAN GET A PILOT PROGRAM DOWN HERE. THIS RESOLUTION AND I SEE SOME OF OUR STATE HOUSE REPS HERE AND SENATORS HERE. THIS RESOLUTION IS GOING UP TOO Y'ALL. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A PROGRAM PUT IN PLACE TO GIVE FUNDING TO ALLOW THE EMPLOYER, THE GOVERNMENT AND THE PARENT TO SPREAD OUT THE CALL FOR CHILD CARE HERE AND MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE. AND SO I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION. I'M GLAD AND THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER AS WELL. AND BY SHOW OF HANDS ALL IN FAVOR, JIM.WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE NOW COUNCILMAN GLEN, COULD I MAKE A COMMENT NOW? YES, SURE. BEFORE WE CAME IN I REALLY AM ASKING THIS BODY TO CONSIDER A POLICY WILL ENHANCE CHILD CARE ON AND ON IN THE WORKFORCE. AND I'LL CONTINUE.
SO THIS IS A START IN THAT DIRECTION. BUT I THINK POLICY SHOULD ALSO REFLECT THIS COUNCIL LOOKING AT CHILD CARE AND WORKERS AND MAKING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THEM.
THAT'S WHERE I AM WHEN WE HAVE PERSONNEL WORKSHOP WE'LL CERTAINLY PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA. YES. YES, SIR.
AND YOU KNOW, BEFORE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL HAS KIND OF LED THE WAY IN THAT TO SAY RIGHT.
OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR O OVER. OKAY.
[11.f. 2025/59: A Resolution repealing resolution 2024/20 and replacing with resolution 2025/59 committing funds to Technical College of the Lowcountry and Beaufort Memorial Hospital for capital projects.]
ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY NEXT RESOLUTION IS 1220 2559 A RESOLUTION REPEALING 2020 420 AND REPLACING WITH RESOLUTION 2020 559 COMMITTING FUNDS TO THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE OF LOWCOUNTRY AND BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS TO HAVE A MOTION MAKE THE MOTION. I'LL SECOND THAT AND WE HAD A MOTION COUNCILMAN LAWSON A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR EXPLANATION WITH MISS PINKY HARRIET. YES.SO BACK IN 2024 DURING YOUR 2025 BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS YOU GUYS PASSED A RESOLUTION 2020 420 TO FUND SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS TCL.
THE IMAGE DID NOT HAVE A RESOLUTION SO THEY KIND OF GOT THEIR APPROVAL VIA THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO IN ORDER FOR US TO AS PRESENTED AT FINANCE COMMITTEE WE HAD WE WERE GOING WE'RE REQUESTING COUNCIL REALLOCATE THE $15 MILLION THAT WE PULLED FROM FUND FROM FUND BALANCE FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE SIP FUND AND REAPPROPRIATE IT AND IN TURN WE WILL TAKE $15 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS AND APPROPRIATED TOWARDS IT TOWARDS THE BONDS THAT WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED. I ONLY ONE RESOLUTION TO REPEAL IN ORDER TO PASS A NEW RESOLUTION. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNTY COUNCIL? YES SIR. CAN WE JUST GO OVER THE MILLAGE ASPECT OF IT? CORRECT. YOU ALSO AN ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT FOR FIRST READING WHICH IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT ORDINANCE WHICH WILL REALLOCATE THE MILLAGE THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY AWARDED THESE ENTITIES BACK TO YOUR DEBT SERVICE FUND TO COVER THE DEBT SINCE THE WILL NOW ASSUME THE DEBT YES SIR. COUNCILMAN EVERYTHING I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF AND EVERYTHING I KNOW THIS WAS THE CHANGEOVER BETWEEN
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CFO WAS AND THANK YOU FOR EARNING THIS SOUND AND AS THE LIAISON THAT THAT WORKFORCE CENTER EDUCATION CENTER IS TO HAVE A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT HERE IN COUNTY AND HOPEFULLY ATTRACT BETTER BUSINESS HERE AS WELL. SO THANK YOU.ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? OKAY.
CALL FOR THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS. YES, UNANIMOUS.
[11.g. 2025/54: A Resolution Authorizing the County Administrator to Accept a Historic Preservation Grant Award From The National Park Service (Cemetery Surveys)]
THANK YOU, MISS AREA. RIGHT LAST ON THE RESOLUTIONS IS 2020 554 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ACCEPT A HISTORIC PRESERVATION GRANT AWARD FROM THE NATIONAL PARK. THIS IS FOR CEMETERY SURVEYS. I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE.MADAM CHAIRMAN. A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND? OKAY. I THINK AS COUNCILMAN RENT'S FIRST. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN COMMITTEE. ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS
[12.a. 2025/37: An ordinance amending the zoning map for 11 acres located on Burnt Church Road (R600 039 000 1552 0000, R600 039 000 0056 0000, R600 039 000 0269 0000) from T3 Hamlet Neighborhood (T3HN) and T4 Hamlet Center (T4HC) to T3 Neighborhood (T3N) ]
AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW ANIMALS. THANK YOU. AND AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR VICE CHAIRMAN AS OUR CUSTOM ORDINANCES FOR THIRD READING.WOULD YOU LIKE TO REMIND THE PUBLIC. YES.
ANYTHING. SO THESE ARE ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING AND THESE IF IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING I'M GOING TO REMIND YOU WHAT MY EXPECTATIONS ARE.
I USED TO BE A PRINCIPAL SO BEAR WITH ME WHEN WE GET TO THE PINE ISLAND ITEMS WE HAVE OVER 70 RESIDENTS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I PERSONALLY, DID NOT BRING A COT TO SLEEP HERE SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT THAT AND SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE ITEM TWO ITEM THREE EVERYONE WILL GET TO SPEAK AND I'LL CALL YOU UP IN THE ORDER IN WHICH YOU SIGNED HOWEVER YOU'RE REMINDED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL ONLY AGAIN WE DON'T RESPOND WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN BE RESPECTFUL, BE CIVIL NO PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANYONE OR DEGRADING ANYONE. WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO TRY TO BE SUCCINCT AND YOU START GOING TO IN THE FOUR OR FIVE MINUTE RANGE I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TRY TO WRAP UP BECAUSE 70 PEOPLE IS A LOT ON THE FIRST ONE AND THEN AGAIN ON THE SECOND ONE.
SO WILL BE A CLOCK ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. IT IS THE NORMAL TIMER THAT BEINGS AT 3 MINUTES BUT YOU CAN LOOK UP THERE TO SEE HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN TALKING BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LIKE ME I CAN'T TELL IF IT'S 5 MINUTES, 10 MINUTES, 20 MINUTES, WHATEVER IT'LL BE ON THE SCREEN AND FOR THE AUDIENCE I'M GOING TO ASK YOU PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL AND THAT YOU ALSO REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING, WHISTLING, STANDING UP WHATEVER THAT ONLY ELONGATES EVERYTHING WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND SOMEWHERE IN THIS MESS WE WILL STOP FOR A RECESS SO YES WELL ALL THAT SAID EVERYBODY GOT THAT. THAT'S MY PRINCIPAL VOICE.
OKAY, RECESS AT NINE. THERE YOU GO. SO ORDINANCE FOR SHORT READING.
OH YEAH. OKAY. ORDINANCE FOR THIRD READING 2025 CLASS 37 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE MAP FOR 11 ACRES LOCATED ON BROAD CHURCH WITH A WHOLE LOT OF LETTERS AGAIN AND ZEROS AND THAT'S FROM T THREE HAMLET NEIGHBORHOOD TO T FOR HAMLET NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN TO T THREE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE VOTE AT THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE ON JUNE 2ND WAS FOUR ONE WITH ONE ABSTENTION.
THE VOTE FIRST READING IN PUBLIC HEARING JUNE 23RD AT JULY 14TH COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING PASSED EIGHT ONE THE VOTE AT FIRST READING ON AUGUST 11TH PASSED TEN ZERO AND THE VOTE AT READING ON SEPTEMBER EIGHT PASSED TEN ZERO. SO I'D LIKE MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 SIZE 37 I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION I WHO SAID THAT PUTS A SECOND MR. LAWSON MR. GLOVER SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.
CAN WE OF HANDS WHO WOULD LIKE TO VOTE THIS ORDINANCE? OKAY, WE'RE GOOD DEFENSE.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. THAT IS GREAT. THAT WAS EASY.
[12.b. 2025/41: An ordinance to amend the FY2025-2026 budget ordinance to carry over FY2025 purchase orders & funds]
ONE VOTE. OKAY NOW I'M GOING TO 2025 SLASH 41.WHAT AT A RHYTHM. WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS? OH YES.
EXCEED THE STANDARDS. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT WAY.
GRANT THE REQUEST FOR RESUMING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE CODE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE IS NOT IN CONFLICT WITH PROVISIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES DOES ADDRESS A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED IS REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS IS COMPATIBLE WITH IS IT EXISTING AND PROPOSED OF LAND SURROUNDING THIS LAND WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT
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NEARBY WOULD RESULT IN LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS WOULD NOT RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WATER NOISE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND THE NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND WOULD RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ADEQUATELY SERVED BY THE PUBLIC FACILITIES WHICH ARE STREETS, POTABLE WATER, SEWER, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, SOLID COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SCHOOLS, PARKS, POLICE FIRE, EMERGENCY AND MEDICAL FACILITIES THAT'S WHAT A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S JUST DOTO BE OFFICIAL.I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ORDINANCES RIGHT? WAIT A SECOND.
I TURN MY TO GUESS. OKAY. 2025 SLASH 41 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE FISCAL 2020 526 BUDGET ORDINANCE TO CARRY OVER 2025 PURCHASE ORDERS AND FUNDS THE VOTED THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING ON AUGUST 18TH WAS NINE ZERO. THE VOTE AT FIRST READING ON AUGUST 20TH WAS NINE ZERO AND THE VOTE AT SECOND READING PASSED AT TEN ZERO. MISS HARRIET, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS ONE? IF I NEED A MOTION I'LL MAKE THAT, MR. LAWSON.
MAKE SURE EZRA AND MR. CUNNINGHAM ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. IT I MEAN ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE TOO. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU BUT YOU CAN STAND THERE IF YOU LIKE. I MEAN ALL RIGHT, I'LL ANY DISCUSSION ON COUNSEL.
ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE RAISE HAND AND AGAIN THIS WAS DISCUSSED
[13.a. 2025/42: Text Amendments To The Community Development Code (CDC): Division 5.10 (Historic Preservation), Section 7.2.120 (Certificate Of Appropriateness), Section 7.3.80 (Historic Designation), Section 7.4.50 (Public Hearing Scheduling And Notice), And Section 7.5.40 (Historic Preservation Review Board (HPRB)). (Public Hearing)]
ALREADY THREE TIMES ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING 2025 SIZE 42 TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE ALSO REFERRED TO AS CDC DIVISION 5.10 HISTORIC PRESERVATION SECTION 7.2. 120 CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS SECTION 7.3. 80 HISTORIC DESIGNATION SECTION 7.5. 50 PUBLIC HEARINGS GATHERING AND NOTICE AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW BOARD THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING VOTE AT THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 2ND WAS EIGHT ZERO. CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS READ? SO MOVE MADAM CHAIRMAN. OH SECOND THANK YOU MR. MISS HOWARD IS THE SECOND STAFF I'D LIKE TO TO THIS MR. MERCHANT COME ON DOWN RIGHT THE. GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I'LL JUST BE BRIEF THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU THIS CAME FROM OUR STAFF WE WERE WORKING ON THE UPDATE OF OUR ABOVE GROUND SURVEY FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES AND PART OF THAT PROCESS WE HIRED A CONSULTANT STANTEC IS A MAJOR ENGINEERING PLANNING FIRM TO ASSIST WITH THAT STUDY AND THEY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, NEEDED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IT TO BE CONSISTENT SO WE COULD BE WHAT IS CONSIDERED A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS A TERM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE HAS FOR LOCAL COMMUNITIES. IT PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE I GUESS MORE LINE WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF ARCHIVES IN THE WAY THEY REGULATE HISTORIC RESOURCES AND IT ALSO PUTS US IN A POSITION TO SEEK OUT ADDITIONAL GRANTS FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT WILL DO IS THAT IN PAST WE HAVE SIMPLY USED OUR LOCAL ORDINANCE FOR STRUCTURES THAT WERE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC LANDMARK AND WE REALLY WE LEARNED THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE THAT JURISDICTION AND WHAT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS TO ESTABLISH A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK INVENTORY WHICH WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO AGREE ON WHICH PROPERTY SHOULD BE BROUGHT IN AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD AT A FUTURE DATE THAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL PUT US IN A GOOD POSITION TO BE YOU KNOW, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. ONE ADDITIONAL THING THAT THIS DOES IS IT ESTABLISHES BUFFERS AND SETBACKS FOR CEMETERIES, WHICH IS SOMETHING CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE.AND SO THIS WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE GRANT TO TO SURVEY CEMETERIES IS DETERMINED ESPECIALLY SOME THAT ARE IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE EXACT BOUNDARIES THAT WILL HELP TO PREVENT ENCROACHMENT ON THIS BURIAL SITES.
SO WITH THAT ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING
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. I DO HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE.I HAVE TREY GRAVES, IF YOU'D COME FORWARD YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE AND RIGHT BEHIND TREY WE HAVE TED AND I CAN'T READ YOUR LAST NAME DENNIS AND RIGHT BEHIND HIM WE HAVE THE R.E. GILLIARD. IT WOULD REALLY HELP IF WE PRINT SO I CAN READ BUT WE HAVE THOSE THREE THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ORDINANCE. COME ON DOWN.
AND THIS WOULD BE TREY RIGHT? YES. OKAY, WELCOME.
GO FOR IT. EVENING, MY IS TREY GRAVES. I LIVE IN BLUFFTON.
I DO NOT KNOW. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE EVER GONE THROUGH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPEAK INTO THE HISTORIC HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROCESS WITH THE MUNICIPALITY BUT IT IS BASICALLY MAKING YOUR UNINCORPORATED NEIGHBORHOOD PART OF AN AWAY I PERSONALLY DID NOT BUY THE HOUSE THAT I BOUGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I BOUGHT IT IN TO BE TOLD THAT I CAN OR CAN'T HAVE CERTAIN WINDOWS ON THE PERCEIVED AGE OF MY HOME.
IT IS INCREDIBLY ARBITRARY IN THE APPLICATION OF THE VARIOUS DEVELOPMENT CODE AS HOW IT APPLIES TO YOUR PARCEL AND TO THAT END YOU KNOW IT CHANGES FROM COMMITTEE TO COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE MAY SAY YEAH THAT HOUSE IS A BIOHAZARD AND BY ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES SHOULD BE TORN DOWN BUT THE NEXT COMMITTEE NEXT BOARD MEMBER MAY SAY NO WE HAVE TO SAVE IT AND THEN YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY WON'T WRITE INSURANCE ON THAT STRUCTURE OR ANY OF YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU'RE NOT COVERED AGAINST SOMEONE TRESPASSING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT. SO I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST TO LOOK VERY CLOSELY TO THIS DO NOT DON'T ALLOW THE PROMISE OF PROTECTING CEMETERIES IS TO STRIP PROPERTY RIGHTS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO DESIRE TO LIVE IN THESE AREAS JUST BECAUSE THEIR HOUSE IS OLD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU TED. JOIN US.
I CAN'T READ LAST NAME IS TED HERE? I DID SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER ONE . ALL RIGHT. IF NOT I HAVE LARRY GILLIARD WANTED TO SPEAK ON NO, THAT'S MR. BROWN THIS ITEM OKAY? YES.
I CAN'T HEAR YOU FROM HERE HE THOUGHT HE WAS OH NO HE SIGNED UP FOR ONE WHO'S THAT LEERY? YOU WANT ME TO PUT HIM ON TWO OR THREE KIND OF ISLAND? OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I WILL NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? I'M PUBLIC HEARING ANYTHING ON COUNCIL COMMENT QUESTION. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A TAKE THIS TIME TO SAY WHAT A GREAT JOB THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS DONE ON THIS TO REVISE AND IT WILL PROTECT A LOT OF PROPERTIES AND CEMETERIES TO AN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY LIKE MR. LAWSON AND I.
YEAH THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST READING OF THIS BUT MR. GRAVES IF YOU GET WITH ME ON SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE SECOND READING.
OKAY ANYBODY. ELSE ON COUNCIL NO I JUST NEED TO MAKE MY OFFICIAL MOTION WHEN . YOU GET A CHANCE. WE'VE ALREADY MADE THIS MOTION . WE'VE GOT TO GET THE CRITERIA AND I NEED TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE GRANT THE REQUEST FOR THE TEX AMENDMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS OH YOU, WANT TO SET THE STANDARDS? OKAY, GO AHEAD. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES . THE CONFERENCE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT CONFLICT WITH ANY PROVISION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE .
ALL CODE OF ORANGE IS REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS DOES ADDRESS A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE AND INTENT THE ZONES IN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE OR WOULD IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY AMONG USERS AND ENSURE EFFECT OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY WOULD RESULT A LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WOULD NOT RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER IN NOISE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND THE NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU MR. GLOVER.
THANK YOU ALL IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE. A SECOND I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU. OH, OKAY.
NOW HE WAS READING THE STANDARD. WELL, MR. HERBERT SAID I NEEDED
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TO SECOND IT. I'M IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE AS STATED AND DISCUSSED I'LL POST MR. ONE OPPOSED AGAINST ANYBODY ELSE OPPOSED THE TIMES OPPOSE TWO OPPOSED.OKAY THANK YOU ACTUALLY I WAS JUST RAISED YOUR ARM AND I THINK JOE DID TO HIS BROWN ARE YOU OPPOSED I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS OPPOSED OKAY I THINK SHE'S OPPOSED ALL RIGHT.
[13.b. 2025/43: An Ordinance amending the FY2026 Budget Ordinance to re-purpose millage allocated from TCL & BMH to the County's Debt Service.]
I VOTED YES. YEAH, I KNOW JOE VOTED YES. ALL RIGHT.I'M MOVING ON TO 13 B 2025 SIZE 43 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE FISCAL 2026 BUDGET ORDINANCE TO REPURPOSE MILLAGE ALLOCATED FOR TCL AND B IMAGE TO THE COUNTY'S DEBT SERVICE THE VOTER FINANCE ADMINISTRATION ECONOMICS COMMITTEE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 15TH PASSED SIX ZERO AND LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE AS READ I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THANK YOU MR. A SECOND DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND OUT MR. CUNNINGHAM THANK YOU, MISS HARRIET.
IT'S ALL YOU. YES. SO THIS WAS THE ITEM I ALLUDED TO EARLIER. THIS IS YOUR ORDINANCE TO AMEND YOUR FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET WHERE WE HAD PREVIOUSLY IN THE BUDGET ORDINANCE ALLOCATED 0.1 MILLS TO TCL AND POINT TWO MILLS TO BE MADE PASSING THIS ORDINANCE REPEAL THAT AND WE WOULD AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO REFLECT AS HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SECOND PAGE REVERTED TO YOUR DEBT FUNCTIONS WE WILL BE ASSUMING THE DEBT AUCTIONS ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL AND SHE COVERED IT EARLIER IN THE YEAH OKAY THANK YOU PREVIOUS ITEM AND DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBERS. ALL RIGHT ALL IN FAVOR THE ORDINANCE PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MISS HARRIET. OKAY, NOW TO THE ITEM EVERYONE'S WAITING FOR 2025
[13.c. 2025/44: An Ordinance to approve a Development Agreement Between Pine Island Property Holdings, LLC, a South Carolina Limited Liability company authorized to conduct business in South Carolina, and the County of Beaufort, South Carolina, Pursuant to Section 6-31-30 of the Code of Laws of South Carolina, 1976 as amended (Public Hearing)]
SIZE 44 AN ORDINANCE TO APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PINE ISLAND PROPERTY HOLDINGS LLC A SOUTH CAROLINA LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY AUTHORIZED TO BUSINESS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA PURSUANT TO SECTION SIX STATES 31 DEATHS 30 THE CODE OF LAWS OF SOUTH CAROLINA 1976 AS AMENDED. THIS IS A PUBLIC.MADAM CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. OH, OKAY.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN PINE ISLANDS PERSONAL HOLDINGS LLC AND BEAUFORT COUNTY PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS SECTION SIX, DASH 31 DASH 30 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT NEGOTIATIONS CONTINUE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE APPLICANT TO ATTEMPT TO REACH TERMS WHICH ARE ACCEPTABLE TO BOTH PARTIES AND WHICH PROVIDE CLEAR AND ADEQUATE AND ENFORCEABLE MEASURES WHILE REMAINING CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OTHER COUNTY ORDINANCES FOR REASONS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE AND THE PURPOSE OF DEVELOPMENTAL CODE DOES ADDRESS A DEMONSTRATED NEED COMMUNITY NEED WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT A NEARBY LAND WOULD NOT RESULT IN AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WATER AIR NOISE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION WETLANDS AND THE NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND WOULD RESULT A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ADEQUATE SERVED BY PUBLIC FACILITIES, STREETS POTABLE SEWER, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL SCHOOLS PARK POLICE FIRE EMERGENCY AND MEDICAL FACILITIES I'LL SECOND THAT WHO SECONDED MR. LAWSON ALL RIGHT. THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OH, MR. MERCHANT. OKAY, COME ON UP.
HE'S HE'S TALKING. YEAH, COME ON DOWN. AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T OWN MR. MERCHANTS IN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT HE'S A DRINKER. OH, EATING DIRECT.
SORRY. AND INTRODUCE MYSELF LAST TIME. WELL, YOU KEEP POPPING UP.
I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE. OKAY, WELL, I WANTED TO SPEAK BRIEFLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK IN THIS REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE TWO ITEMS AND THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER AT THE PLANNING AND I WILL SAY THAT THIS HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF ADVICE, ESPECIALLY LEGAL ADVICE. SO I WANT TO STAY IN MY LANE AND JUST SPEAK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY THE FUNDAMENTAL FUNCTION WHAT WE DO IN OUR DEPARTMENT. IT'S ALSO ONE VERY IMPORTANT THINGS IN IN THE PLANNING PROFESSION AND SO WHEN WE EVALUATE BOTH THE AGREEMENT AND THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS, BOTH
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OF THEM HAVE CRITERIA ZONING MAP AMENDMENT THE VERY FIRST ITEM IS IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE IT'S CONSIDERED THE MOST THE PRIMARY THING THAT WE LOOK AT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN LOOKING AT STATE ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT ITEM IS ALSO LISTED IT REQUIRES THE APPLICANT WHEN THEY'RE SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION TO PROVIDE YOU KNOW THE FINDING THAT THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO YOU KNOW MY SUMMARY JUST MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT AND I JUST WANT TO GO INTO SOME OF THE BACKGROUND IS THAT WE AT THE STAFF LEVEL JUST FROM EVALUATING THE COMPREHENSIVE BELIEVES THAT THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND SO I WOULD JUST WANTED TO GO INTO BIT OF THE BACKGROUND AS I THINK MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE THIS POLICY THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT HAS BEEN IN PLACE IN COUNTY SINCE THE ADOPTION OF OUR ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ORDINANCE IN 1999 AND THAT CAME OUT OF A CONSIDERABLE LOCAL COMMUNITY PROCESS ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND. THIS WAS ABOUT THE TIME THAT STARTED HERE SO I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT STARTED THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS DEBATED BY COUNCIL BACK IN 99 AND ADOPTED INTO POLICY SINCE THAT TIME WE HAVE HAD THE FIVE YEAR REVIEW OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 2002 WE REWROTE THE PLAN ADOPTED IN 2011 2016 FIVE YEAR REVIEW AND THEN 2021. ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES WE HAVE SOUTH CAROLINA IS THE STATE PUTS A LOT OF VALUE ON CONFERENCE PLANNING. THEY REQUIRE LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE ZONING TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE BUT ALSO IT REQUIRES A FIVE YEAR REVIEW AND THEN TEN YEAR REVISIT. SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT CYCLE SEVERAL TIMES LIKE A LOT OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN SOUTH CAROLINA. SO TIME THIS HAS BEEN UPHELD THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER 2021 SPECIFICALLY CALLS FOR THE REVAMP TO REEVALUATE THE CPO DISTRICT TO DETERMINE IF ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS WERE NEEDED. CONSIDER STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC AND KITSCHY DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND THEN BROAD COMMUNITY REPRESENTATION AND INPUT INTO THE REVIEW.SO SHORTLY AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE COUNCIL APPOINTED A CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY COMMITTEE AND THEN GAVE THEM THE DIRECTION IN JANUARY OF 2023 TO LOOK AT THE CULTURE PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT WITH THE YOU KNOW REQUESTING THAT THEY LOOK AT IT LOOK AT THE PURPOSE STATEMENT AND STRENGTHEN IT YOU KNOW WHERE NEEDED AND SO THAT COMMITTEE DID THAT WORK BROUGHT AMENDMENTS BACK TO COUNTY TO COUNTY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF 2023 IT WENT THROUGH THE COMMITTEE AND THREE READINGS AND WAS ADOPTED IN ADDITION LATER THAT SPRING A MAP AMENDMENT WHICH HAD BEEN INITIATED BACK IN NOVEMBER WAS BROUGHT FORWARD THAT WOULD REQUESTED VERY VERY SIMILAR TO THIS ONE TO REMOVE THE PROPERTY OUT OF THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A GOLF COURSE JUST SIMILAR TO THIS ONE AND AT THAT TIME PLANNING COMMISSION THEY RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY TO DENY THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND THEN COUNCIL DEFEATED IT AT FIRST READING SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S WHERE THAT STOOD. THIS APPLICATION IS VERY SIMILAR TO THAT ONE THERE'S ONE REAL DIFFERENCE IN THAT THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT WAS ON THE REQUEST IN 2023 THAT IS NOT IN THIS PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING THAT'S GOING THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR I BELIEVE IT'S 20 LOTS SUBDIVISION SO THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PINE ISLAND BUT IT'S HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME SO IF THIS WERE TO DEVELOP THOSE 20 LOTS WOULD BE ALSO ADJACENT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU KNOW FROM OUR STANDPOINT AND THEN I GUESS THE OTHER THING THAT WE LOOKED AT AND THIS WAS IN THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TWO YEARS AGO IS THE VERY QUESTION OF THE BOUNDARIES CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS WHERE THEY DRAWN CORRECTLY WHAT WAS THE INTENTION OF HOW THEY WERE DRAWN AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND IS THAT THE PURPOSE STATEMENT IS WAY BACK IN THE 1999 ORDINANCE SPOKE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT APPLYING TO YOU KNOW THEY DELIBERATELY EXCLUDED DATA HARBOR STRIP AND HUNTING BECAUSE HAD ALREADY BEEN
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APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING AND THERE WAS NO INTEREST IN RENDERING ALL OF THIS NON-CONFORMING THERE'S THIS GOLF COURSE COMMUNITIES AND SO YOU KNOW IT DELIBERATELY SAID THAT THE BOUNDARIES DRAWN TO EXCLUDE THOSE BUT THEY WERE MEANT TO APPLY TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY ON LARGE UNDEVELOPED TRACTS WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS OF THIS DISTRICT. YOU KNOW WE LEARNED THROUGH WORKING WITH A CPO COMMITTEE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO THE COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY FAMILIES WHO'VE BEEN ON SAINT HELENA FOR GENERATIONS IS THE LAND AND LAND OWNERSHIP AND THIS IS VERY MUCH A A CONCERN YOU KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE SOME OF THE FINDINGS WE OF ENCROACHMENT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INCOMPATIBLE OR INCONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC COMMUNITIES ON SAINT HELENA AND THAT AS THESE LARGE TRACTS DEVELOP IN WAYS THAT ARE NOT WITH SAINT HELENA ISLAND THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S A CONCERN THAT THE CULTURE THE THE THE HISTORY ISLAND WILL OR WILL ERODE OVER TIME AND SO THAT VERY PURPOSE OF THE CPO DISTRICT WAS TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. AND SO I AM NOT TAKING A POSITION THAT I'M MERELY IN MY ROLE AS ADMINISTERING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ASSISTING WITH COMMUNITY PLANNING. YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE DETERMINED IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FOR THAT REASON BOTH THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS THE REZONING AND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RECOMMEND DENIAL. WE DO MAKE SOME OTHER COMMENTS . COUNCIL DOES MOVE FORWARD. WE DID HAVE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ABOUT OF THE DETAILS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BUT YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY SOMETHING I COULD GO INTO DETAIL YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE STAFF REPORT TRYING TO THINK OF THE I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH OH I DID ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN MAY OF 2025 AND THEY UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF OF THE MAP AMENDMENT THEY DID NOT LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HOWEVER THEY DID HAVE A DRAFT THEIR PACKET SO WITH THAT I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS SO THANK YOU IT IS A PUBLIC SO I'M GOING TO GO TO THE APPLICANT FIRST MR. DUKES MR. GIORDANO, THANKS FOR WRITING THAT SPEAK AND THEN AFTER THE APPLICANT SPEAKS I'LL START CALLING NAMES OF THE 70 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK . SO DEVELOP AN AGREEMENT. MR. DUKES IT'S ALL YOURS.WE'LL TAKE JUST A SECOND TO MAKE SURE THIS IS WORKING. YEAH, I'M GOING TO ASK THE AUDIENCE TO BE ATTENTIVE AND NOT SPEAK WHEN HE'S SPEAKING. REMEMBER TALKED ABOUT RESPECT, CIVILITY AND LET'S KEEP THIS MOVING. SO MR. IS ON THANK YOU MADAM VICE CHAIR AND GOOD EVENING MY NAME KEVIN DUKES AND I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HARVEY AND BHATTI AND BEFORE SOUTH CAROLINA ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT MR. TROPEANO I WOULD LIKE YOU AND THE PUBLIC FOR BEING ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS IN THE RECENT PAST THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS COUNTY HAS BEEN USED SPARINGLY AND MANY BELIEVE IT OFFERED THE DETRIMENT OF THE COMMUNITY OR COMMUNITY OR THE ENVIRONMENT. THE PINE ISLAND PROJECT IS DIFFERENT AND THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN DIFFERENT SO FAR. WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TRULY UNPRECEDENTED. BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS NEVER A PROPOSAL THAT DELIVERS SO MUCH TO THE COMMUNITY WHILE PLACING SUCH HIGH PROTECTIONS ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
THIS APPLICATION BEGAN AS A SIMPLE CHOICE BETWEEN UNDERLYING ZONING OF MORE DENSITY OR, LESS DENSITY, LESS IMPACTS WITH A COURSE. BUT WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH COUNCIL IT EVOLVED INTO SOMETHING FAR GREATER AN OPPORTUNITY THAT STANDS ALONE FOR ALL OF BEAUFORT COUNTY. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FOCUSED SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS ON THE PROPERTY AND DIRECT INVESTMENTS INTO THE ST HELENA COMMUNITY THROUGH COUNCILS AND IN RESPONSES TO PUBLIC INPUT. THAT FOUNDATION GROWN INTO A PLAN THAT PROVIDES PUBLIC BENEFITS NOT ONLY FOR THE AREA THAT DIRECTLY SURROUNDS PINE ISLAND BUT FOR ALL BEAUFORT COUNTY BENEFITS THAT ALL OF YOU FOR COUNTY RESIDENTS CAN SHARE.
AGREEMENT IS THE PRODUCT OF COLLABORATION CONSIDERATION AND THE COMMITMENT TO RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. THE PINE ISLAND PLAN MAINTAINS THAT IT MAINTAINS THE RURAL
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CHARACTER ON SAINT HELENA AND ENSURES THAT THE PUBLIC BENEFITS ARE INVESTED TO PRESERVE THE CULTURE OF THE AREA AND OUR COUNTY. NEVERTHELESS, THE POSITIVE OF THIS PLAN EXTEND FAR BEYOND THE BOUNDARIES OF SAINT TO EVERY CORNER OF THE COUNTY.SO BEFORE I JUMP IN TO THE SLIDES I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHERE WE SEE OURSELVES TONIGHT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE. COUNCIL HAS SEEN VARIOUS VERSIONS OF THIS PLAN BEEN ENGAGED IN WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AND SEEN THE FINAL PRODUCT.
WE'VE HAD IT FOR ABOUT A WEEK. MOST OF THE FOLKS BEHIND ME HAVE ONLY SEEN IT FOR ABOUT DAYS MAYBE LESS. THEY PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN THE WHOLE THING SO.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S LATE AND IT'S LONG BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO MY BEST AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BUT AS THOROUGHLY AS POSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY INCLUDED BECAUSE UP TO THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE JOB THIS EVENING. SO PINE ISLAND, WHERE IS IT? A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T KNOW IT'S IN THE NORTHEAST OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, THE NORTHERN PORTION OF SAINT HELENA.
YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE MAP HERE. THE ACTUAL ISLAND IS THERE ON THE MORGAN RIVER.
IT'S CONNECTED BY CAUSEWAY TO A 360 ACRE SPIT OF LAND COMING OF THE NORTH PORT OF SAINT HELENA. IT'S ABOUT TEN MILES AND 15 MINUTE DRIVE FROM THE CITY OF BEAUFORT IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT IS HIGH, DRY, ISOLATED AND UNIQUE AND THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT INCREDIBLE AND WHY WE ARE HERE.
WE ARE HERE BECAUSE THOUGH SOME MAY NOT WANT IT OR SOME MAY NOT THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT WILL BE DEVELOPED. AND SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE OPTIONS, THE POSSIBILITIES.
NOW I ASK FOR NO COMMENTS. HE HAS THE FLOOR. IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO DO THAT THEN YOU CAN EXIT THE AUDITORIUM. LET'S ALL BE RESPECT FOR WE'LL BE RESPECTFUL WHEN YOU SPEAK. THANK YOU. I KNOW IT WILL BE DEVELOPED.
A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE BEEN TOLD IT BUT IT WILL. SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OPTIONS OF THE WAYS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE PROPOSED A PLAN THAT RETAINS THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA, DELIVERS CERTAINTY AND CLOSURE TO AREAS THAT ARE ISSUES THAT ARE EXISTING AND CONTROLS AND MANAGES GROWTH, PROTECTS THE ENVIRONMENT AND CREATES NO PRECEDENT FOR THE FUTURE. AS I HAVE GONE AROUND AND SPOKE TO PEOPLE AND PEOPLE HAVE LEARNED THE FACTS I HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THIS IS A NO BRAINER. AND SO AGAIN THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL IS TONIGHT IS JUST TO PROVIDE INFORMATION. THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE PLAN.
SO SO HERE IS THE CHOICE WHICH WE HAVE PRESENTED. SO UNDER THE CPO AND THE CURRENT ZONING THERE IS ALLOWED 149 HOMES ON THE PROPERTY. 70 TO 80 DOCKS OF SOME KIND.
WHAT WE HAVE STATED IS THAT WE WILL VOLUNTARILY REDUCE THAT DENSITY BY 66%.
THAT IN TURN REDUCES TRAFFIC IMPACTS 60%. PRESERVE IN PERPETUITY 82%.
OPEN SPACE THAT 360 ACRE PORTION OF PROPERTY REMOVE ROUGHLY A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. SO THINK ROOFS POOLS DRIVEWAY PARKING AREAS ANYTHING THAT WATER RUNS OFF OF THIS WHERE THE HOUSE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE WATERWAYS.
WE'VE ALSO STATED THAT WE WOULD REMOVE 90% OF THE DOCKS ON THE PROPERTY AND PROTECT SEVEN AND A HALF MILES OF SHORELINE. WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS REALIZE IS THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY HUNDRED AND 73 SEPTIC TANK PERMITS ALREADY ISSUED FOR THE PROPERTY.
THOSE WOULD BE REMOVED THROUGH SOME REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL THAT HAVE BEEN AGREED TO IN THE PLAN AND WE WILL SPEAK ABOUT MORE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THIS. YOU'LL SEE WHAT YOU HEAR ALL THE TIME AND WHAT HEARD A FEW DAYS AGO IN THE SURVEY WHICH IS THERE'S TOO MUCH GROWTH, TOO MANY PEOPLE COMING CAUSING TOO MUCH TRAFFIC AND TOO MANY IMPACTS.
SO THE SIGN UP THERE IT'S CHANGING. IT'S HAPPENING.
THIS IS HOW WE CONTROL THAT. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY. THE LEFT SIDE IS WHAT'S ALLOWED AND THE RIGHT SIDE IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP, HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. SO WE'VE IT MR. MERCHANT REFERRED TO REMOVAL FROM THE CPO AND SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S THIS PARTNER APPLICATION OF THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
SO HE REFERRED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. LET'S LOOK AT WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS, WHAT THE CPO SAYS. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES
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DEVELOPMENT AS THE PRIMARY THREAT TO THE ISLAND'S RURAL QUALITIES AND ITS EXISTING CULTURE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORTS STEADY INCREMENTAL GROWTH THAT ENHANCES THE ISLAND'S EXISTING CHARACTER AND PROVIDES SERVICES AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES TO THE RURAL COMMUNITY. THAT IS ONE WORD THAT MR. MERCHANT DID NOT SAY RURAL THE NUMBER ONE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE THE COMPREHENSIVE CODE AND THE CPO ON SAINT HELENA IS TO PRESERVE SAINT HELENA AS RURAL.AND THROUGH THAT PRESERVATION OF THAT ROAD DESIGNATION, IT ALSO PROVIDES PRESERVES THE CULTURE OF ITS CITIZENS. WHAT HE DID REFER TO WAS THAT PRIOR TO THE CPO THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT SORT OF PROTECTIONS WOULD GO ON TO SAINT HELENA.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY THE PEN CENTER AND THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND THEY CAME UP WITH SOME IDEAS OF WHAT RURAL AND WHAT SHOULD STAY ON SAINT HELENA AND HOW IT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED. SO YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE TWO PORTIONS IT SAYS PROTECTING ISLANDS AGRICULTURAL LANDS IN OPEN SPACES, REDUCING HOUSING DENSITIES ON THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL LANDS. NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON SAINT HELENA WILL BE THE FACTOR THAT MOST SIGNIFICANTLY INFLUENCES THE ISLAND'S LANDSCAPE IN THE FUTURE.
IN THAT REPORT IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT ANY SPORTS. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING GOLF.
IT TALKS ABOUT DENSITY AND IT TALKS ABOUT. AND IT TALKS ABOUT KEEPING SAINT HELENA RURAL. HERE'S A DEFINITION OF SAID GENERALLY YOU WANT TO HAVE COMMUNITIES OF LESS THAN 100 HOUSES. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE CPO DOES.
IT PUTS HUNDRED AND 49 HOUSES ON HERE. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED. SOMETHING A REDUCTION IN DENSITY.
IT ALSO SAYS THAT SHOULD GROUP HOUSES TO PROVIDE OPEN SPACE TO PROVIDE CONTIGUOUS OPEN.
IS THIS SAID YOU SHOULD NOT CLUTTER THE WATERFRONTS. YOU SHOULD REMOVE DOCKS.
SHOULD LIMIT THE SIZE OF DOCKS. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE PRESENTING AND THAT IS WHAT THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND THE PEN CENTER SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING WAS WHAT WAS TO KEEP THE RURAL CHARACTER ON SAINT HELENA. THEY GO AND SAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE LOCATED AROUND WHERE DEVELOPMENTS CURRENTLY WERE AND IT GIVES US EXAMPLES OF FRUIT POINT AND COFFIN POINT. THIS PENINSULA AND THIS ISLAND IS LOCATED DIRECTLY IN BETWEEN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. IT ALSO SAYS THIS WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THIS WAS 30 YEARS AGO. IT SAYS INNOVATIVE ONSITE WASTEWATER SYSTEMS ARE STRONGLY PREFERRED. YOU SHOULDN'T EXTEND SEWER FROM THE CORNERS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SECONDARY DEVELOPMENT IN BETWEEN. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL ASKED AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN THIS AGREEMENT . AND SO IT'S MAINTAINING THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA OF PINE ISLAND OF SAINT HELENA. GRADUAL AND PACE CHANGE.
IT'S LESS. IT'S 66% LESS. THEY EVEN DEFINE WAYS TO ACHIEVE THESE THINGS. AND ONE OF THOSE WAYS IS WHAT THEY CALL OPEN SPACE ZONING.
AND THIS OPEN SPACE ZONING SEEMS A HECK OF A LOT WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED EXCEPT FOR SAYS 50% OPEN SPACE AND WE'VE PROVIDED 82. SO WHAT SEEMS MORE RURAL IF YOU LOOK ON HERE IT TALKS ABOUT GROUPING HOUSES TOGETHER TO MAINTAIN THAT OPEN SPACE PERMANENT OPEN SPACE FOR AGRICULTURAL TIMBER AND RECREATIONAL USES ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING RECREATIONAL USES IN THE OPEN SPACE. SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.
THIS IS THE ACTUAL. ON THE LEFT IS THE CURRENT CONDITION.
ON THE RIGHT IS THE FULLY DEVELOPED CONDITION WITH 49 HOMES.
SO TWO OR. AND GOLF COURSES COURSES BOTH COURSES ARE ALLOWED BY WRITE IN
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TEACH YOU ARE THERE PERMITTED YOU DON'T NEED SPECIAL USE IT WOULDN'T ANY DIFFERENT THAN IF ANYBODY HERE WENT AND WANTED TO YOU KNOW PUT A SHED IN THEIR BACKYARD THEY'D GO TO COUNTY, SUBMIT AN APPLICATION IT'S ALLOWED AND THEY GET TO PUT THEIR SHED ON THEIR PROPERTY.THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN T-2 OR IN EVERY OTHER PLACE COUNTY. GOLF COURSES ARE ALLOWED.
SO IF THIS GOLF COURSE WAS TO BE DEVELOPED OR BUILT IN SHELDEN WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.
NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED. THERE'D BE NO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THERE'D BE NO DISCUSSION, THERE'D BE NO PUBLIC BENEFITS WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT IN SOME SOMEBODY WOULD LOOK DOWN SAID WHERE THAT GOLF COURSE COME FROM. SO WHAT THAT TELLS US IS ALSO THAT GOLF COURSES BY INCLUDED AS PERMITTED USES ACTUALLY PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
IT'S IN THE COMP PLAN, IT'S RECOGNIZED IN THE CODE AND SO IT IS A SPECIFIC USE WHICH IS ALLOWED AND PRESERVES THE RURAL CHARACTER. IT SAYS IT IN ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS. THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE ALSO SAYS IT HEARS A LETTER FIGHTING AGAINST AN UP ZONING FOR RESIDENTIAL FROM TEE TO ORDER C THREE.
AND THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO A GOLF COURSE WHICH ESSENTIALLY CREEK CLUB.
AND THEY SAY YOU CAN'T PUT MORE HOUSES IN THERE BECAUSE IS A RURAL AREA YOU NEED RURAL USES AND THEY DESIGNATE EXISTING USES IN THE AREA RURAL RESIDENTIAL GOLF COURSES AND, FORESTRY THIS HAS BEEN DONE OUTSIDE OF COUNTY UP IN BERKELEY.
THE RESIDENTS AND THE COUNTY WENT GAVE TAX BREAKS TO AND COURT ENCOURAGED THE LOCATION OF A GOLF COURSE IN LIEU OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S STAYED DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM. IT CHECKS ALL THE BOXES. IT DOESN'T IMPACT INFRASTRUCTURE. DOES IT IMPACT SCHOOLS? DOES IT IMPACT SEWER? DOES IT IMPACT TRAFFIC? ALL THE THINGS THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU HEAR EVERY TIME SOMEBODY GETS UP TO THIS PODIUM AND TALKS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
THIS IS T TO R AND I WOULD ALSO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY ZONED T TWO OR THERE IS AN OVERLAY THAT PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS.
WE'RE SEEKING TO REMOVE THAT OVERLAY. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE UNDERLYING ZONING AND ACTUALLY THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS WHAT CONTROLS DENSITY.
THE OVERLAY RESTRICTS SEVERAL USES PRIMARILY GOLF, GATED COMMUNITIES AND, FRANCHISE ARCHITECTURE. THAT'S ALL THE CPO. IT DOESN'T RESTRICT DENSITY.
THAT'S THE UNDERLYING ZONING OR IN THIS CASE IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO IF GOLF IS ALLOWED EVERYWHERE ELSE IN T TWO OR WHY IS IT NOT ALLOWED CPO? WELL THOSE THAT HAVE OPPOSED THIS PROJECT HAVE STATED THAT GOLF COURSES ARE AN AMENITY PARTICULAR TO DENSE RESIDENTIAL AND ARE INEXTRICABLY CONNECTED INEXTRICABLY MEANING IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE OR DISENTANGLE. SO THIS SUGGEST THAT AS SOON AS WE START BUILDING THAT GOLF COURSE GET READY. HERE COME THE HOMES. HERE THE TRAFFIC.
HERE COMES ALL THOSE IMPACTS. THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE SEE AND UNDERSTAND.
THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TONIGHT THAT THINK WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED IS THIS AND I'D BE WILLING TO BET THERE'S SOME PEOPLE FROM DELTA THAT EVEN THINK WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED IS THIS THIS IS THAT DENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEPARATE.
SO WHY IS THAT? IT'S AN AMENITY. WELL ALL THOSE HOMES AROUND THAT OUTSIDE OF THAT SELL THEMSELVES. THEY GOT ALL THE AMENITY THEY NEED FROM OUR CREATOR EVERY WE LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL PLACE. YOU DON'T A GOLF COURSE TO SELL THOSE EXTERIOR LIGHTS YOU NEED THE GOLF COURSE TO SELL WHAT'S IN THE MIDDLE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SELL THOSE THOSE LOTS IN THE MIDDLE, IF YOU WANT THAT EXTRA DENSITY, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THOSE THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT GOLF COURSE TO DRIVE DENSITY. I SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU IN THE BACK IF YOU WANT TO TALK PLEASE STEP OUTSIDE. IT MUST BE THEY REALIZE THAT WE'VE DONE THE BECAUSE WE'VE REMOVED THE DENSITY AND WE STILL HAVE A GOLF COURSE PERMANENTLY WE'VE PUT IN
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PROVISIONS TO PERMANENT REALLY REMOVE SORT OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON THAT PENINSULA THAT 360 ACRES. THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE OUT THERE SAID WELL NOT REALLY A THING ANYMORE. PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY PLAYING GOLF.IT'S GOING TO FAIL ANY OF THESE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT THIS SHOULD BE PRAYING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IF IT DOES THE GOLF COURSE IS GONE AND IT'S PERMANENTLY PROTECTED OPEN SPACE WITHOUT THEM WITHOUT TAXPAYER MONEY. SO GET.
AND PART OF THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO EDUCATE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF INCORRECT INFORMATION INCOMPLETE INFORMATION AND SO I THINK THAT'S AGAIN THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO MAYBE GET PAST SOME OF THAT STUFF AND EDUCATE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND SEE THIS SOME OF THE ADS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT OUT SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO BE HILTON AND PEOPLE LOCKED OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY AND THAT CAUSES HURT AND I DON'T I WOULD PROBABLY BE AGAINST THAT AS WELL BUT THIS IS NOT TRUE. SO LOOK AT NO MORE CRABS, NO MORE SHRIMP, NO MORE FISH THEN YOU HAVE NO ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT IN THE GOLF RESORT. THE ONLY OFFERS LOW SERVICE INDUSTRY JOBS. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF SERVICE INDUSTRY JOBS IN COUNTY.
EVERYBODY'S SEEN THIS. IT'S BEEN IN THE PAPER. IT'S BEEN ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA . SO THIS IS ONE MORE STEP TO SHOW OR ATTEMPT TO SHOW THAT GOLF COURSES ARE ACTUALLY THE PROBLEM. THAT'S WHAT CAUSED HILTON HEAD TO BECOME HILTON HEAD AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS SAYING THAT BECAUSE HILTON HEAD'S BAD AN ECONOMIC KIND OF WAY I IT'S JUST THEY'RE TRYING TO THE REFERENCING THE FACT THAT THEY WILL SAY HOW LONG TO REMAIN RURAL AND THAT'S THAT'S IT THAT'S THE KEY IS THAT IT NEEDS TO STAY RAW. WHAT WE PRESENTED DOES THAT BUT LET'S BE HONEST ABOUT WHAT THIS SAYS IS GOOD ONE STATED THAT IN THE 1990S A RAPID WAVE OF DISPLACEMENT STRUCK THE LOW COUNTRY. THERE WAS A PLETHORA OF PLANS, UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, PODS YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS. A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE KNOW IT. MAYBE THEY DON'T.
THEY WENT AWAY 2015 BUT OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU'LL SEE THOSE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE LITTLE GOLF COURSE FLAGS. SO 4000 HOMES IN HILTON HEAD PLANTATION, THE ONE THAT THEY CLAIM STARTED AT ALL. SEE PONCE RIGHT THERE 4000 HOMES AND IT GOES ON ON AND ON AND SO PURPLE FLAGS OR THOSE GOLF COURSES WITH ASSOCIATED DENSITY OR HOMES OVER 50 SO WHEN WE TAKE WE LOOK AT HIS AND SEE AGAIN WHAT WHAT SOME OF THE EXPECTATION IS THAT PUT THAT HIGH DENSITY YOU SEE WHAT THAT IS ON THE TOP BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE DENSITY AWAY AND YOU ONLY HAVE A GOLF COURSE, YOU SEE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND SO YOU HAVE TO KIND OF ASK YOUR QUESTION ASK THE QUESTION IS THIS ABOUT GOLF OR IS IT ABOUT DENSITY? WHAT IT'S ABOUT IS MAINTAINING THE RURAL CHARACTER AND LESS DENSITY MAINTAINS THE RURAL CHARACTER AS DOES GOLF. WHEN WE REMOVE THOSE THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LEFT WITH. WELL BUT THEY STILL PUT IN TWO AND JASPER IN COLLETON COUNTY SO WE'LL TAKE THOSE OUT. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LEFT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
IT LOOKS PRETTY RURAL. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO GOLF COURSES THAT DON'T HAVE DENSITY ASSOCIATED WITH THEM OVER 50 UNITS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY BY THE WAY, CHELSEA RIGHT THERE IS THE ONE THAT THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE ACKNOWLEDGED WAS RURAL USE THROUGH A GOLF COURSE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF WHERE THAT ONE WAS. THE OTHER ONE SECESSION FOR SOME PEOPLE FROM SOUTH OF BROAD MAY NOT KNOW WHERE THAT IS BUT THAT'S JUST OFF A LADY'S ISLAND AND GIBBS ISLAND AND IT CAN BE SEEN FROM LADY'S ISLAND DRIVE. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE LIKE .
IT LOOKS RURAL TO ME BUT THAT THAT'S THAT'S THIS DOES NOT THIS IS WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE CPA AND SO WHAT WE'VE IS A CHOICE AND WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE DECISION TO BE BETTER TO HAVE LESS DENSITY, LESS DOGS WHILE MAINTAINING THE RURAL CHARACTER.
SO THIS IS THE TOP PRIORITY THIS CAME BACK TO Y'ALL A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND THE TOP
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PRIORITY ACROSS BEAUFORT COUNTY NOT SAINT HELENA, NOT BLUFFTON EVERYWHERE WAS MANAGING POPULATION GROWTH AND CONTROLLING DEVELOPMENT. SO HOW YOU DO THAT IF YOU DON'T ENGAGE AND GET INVOLVED THE PROCESS BECAUSE IF IT'S DONE THROUGH BY ZONING IT HAPPENS AND YOU DON'T HAVE A SAY AND SO THAT'S WE'RE HERE IS TO PROVIDE THAT ALTERNATIVE TO THE OPTION TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE CHANGE TO MANAGE THE GROWTH BY REDUCING DENSITY REDUCING TRAFFIC PERMANENTLY SETTING ASIDE OPEN SPACE I'VE SAID IT PROBABLY SAID A FEW MORE TIMES JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A GOLF COURSE OR NOT.SO TRAFFIC THE OWNER TALKING ABOUT IT THIS EVENING ABOUT HAVING A PENNY SALES TAX TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC NEEDS WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
I 170 ALL THE TIME AND IT IS BUSY BUT IT ALSO YES THERE NEEDS TO BE MONEY INVESTED BUT IT SHOULD ALSO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITIES WHEN IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO LESS WITH LESS IMPACTS ON THE ROADS SO THIS IS OFFERING 60% LESS TRAFFIC WITHOUT ANY EXPENSE OR COST 60% LESS IMPACTS. I KNOW ALL THE FOLKS LADY'S ISLAND DON'T WANT ANY MORE TRAFFIC GOING INTO THOSE AREAS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SOLVED SINCE THE 2018 REFERENDUM.
ANOTHER BIG THING THAT COMES UP A LOT THAT I'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT MY TIME BEING INVOLVED IS OBVIOUSLY PROTECTING THE WATERWAYS. WE'VE MENTIONED I'VE MENTIONED THOSE SEPTIC TANKS ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED WITH THE USE OF WASTEWATER RESOURCE RECOVERY THAT'S THAT INNOVATIVE WASTEWATER THAT WAS CALLED FOR IN REPORT BY PEN CENTER AND THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE 30 YEARS AGO. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ENGINEERS STANDARDS AND MONITORING PRACTICES SET FORTH IN AN AUTOBAHN BOARD CERTIFIED GOLF COURSE THAT'S A CERTIFICATION THAT'S CURRENTLY AT OTHER COURSES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IS RECOGNIZED AS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL ECOLOGIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL MONITORING AND DESIGN AND IS FROM BEGINNING THROUGH THE END AND CONTINUING MONITORING THEREAFTER. IT'S THE REMOVAL OF THAT IMPERVIOUS SURFACES TAKING THOSE HOME CARS OFF OF THOSE BLUFFS. I DON'T LIKE THE HOMES THERE BECAUSE OF VISUAL BLIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM WHEN I'M ON THE WATER BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE HERE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM. BUT YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PICTURES ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT WITH THOSE DOCKS AND THE HOUSES RIGHT UP ON THE BLUFFS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT KIND OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IS THERE OPPOSED TO THE GOLF COURSE AND THEN THE 90% REDUCTION OF DOCKS, THE PROTECTION OF THE SHORELINE, THE IMPORTANT ABOUT THE DOCKS IS THERE'S THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE DOCKS STICKING OUT, THERE'S THE VISUAL BLIGHT BUT THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE THAT IT SHADES OUT THE MARSH AND IT CAUSES A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES WITH THE ECOLOGY DOWN THERE AT THE WATER'S EDGE AND SO IT'S NOT JUST IT'S NOT JUST WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE BUT IT'S ALSO PROTECTING THE SHORELINES AND IT'S SEVEN AND A HALF MILES OF SHORELINE SHORELINE TOOK A LONG TIME TO PUT THESE ON THE SLIDE BUT THESE ARE ALL THE SEPTIC TANKS AND THE APPROVALS OUTSIDE OF THE APPEAL PERIOD.
THEY'RE THERE AND THE THING IS SOMEBODY WILL COME UP HERE IN PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEY'LL SAY THAT THIS IS A THREAT THIS IS NOT A THREAT. WE'RE HERE TO EDUCATE AND PROVIDE INFORMATION BECAUSE. WHAT'S BEING SAID BY SOME IN OPPOSITION TO THIS IS THEY'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD IT IF YOU CAN IF YOU CAN STOP THE GOLF COURSE WE'LL FIGHT EVERYTHING ELSE AND THEY'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO BUILD IT WELL IT'S ALREADY ELIGIBLE TO HAVE HUNDRED AND 49 HOMES.
THERE ARE 173 SEPTIC TANK PERMITS IN HAND. THIS IS A I GUESS A SELF-EXPLANATORY PICTURE BUT INTERNAL DRAINAGE. SO THE KEY HERE IS THAT BOTH THE STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND, THE AUDUBON STANDARDS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE INTERNAL DRAINAGE INTO SITE TO COLLECT THAT RUNOFF SO THERE ISN'T RUNOFF INTO SURROUNDING WATERWAYS AND SO THAT WILL BE DONE. AND THE KEY HERE THAT IT WILL BE MONITORING WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE AND THAT MONITORING IS REQUIRED BY STATE THAT THE MONITORING OF THE WATER IS NOT REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE BUT MONITORING OF THE IS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE AND THAT WILL BE ONGOING FOR THE LIFE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THIS IS THE CURRENT OF THE RIVER BANKS IN CERTAIN PLACES OF THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S LARGE
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EROSION PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED NOT BY OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED IN AN ECOLOGICALLY WAY WHICH IS WHAT WE PROPOSED. SO BRINGING BACK THOSE PLANTING IN BETWEEN WITH NATURAL THINGS WITH NATURAL AND THEN AGAIN THE WATER IS STILL FLOWING AWAY FROM THE ESTUARIES AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM PROUD OF IS THAT WE HAVE THE SUPPORT WE'VE PROVIDED THROUGH THE LETTERS WE'VE PROVIDED YOU THAT SUPPORT OF BEAUFORT'S SHRIMPING INDUSTRY AND.THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO THEIR CULTURE AND THEIR WAY OF LIFE IN THAT BOX UP THERE ARE THE DOCKS AT VILLAGE CREEK AND DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM IS CAPTAIN CRAIG REEVES BOAT HEADED OUT TOWARDS THE RIVER AND PINE ISLAND IS THERE ON THE LEFT ON ON YOUR WAY OUT THE CREEK AND SO MISS CAPTAIN REEVES HAS SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT AND KNOWS AND HAS LOOKED AT THIS AND HE DOES IT BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT THE ELIMINATION OF THE DOCKS THE PROTECTION OF THE WATERWAYS, THE INTERNAL DRAINAGE IS FOR SUPERIOR TO ANY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE BUILT THERE AND ALL THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND RUNOFF THAT'S THERE AND THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO HIS LIVELIHOOD AND SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE CRAIG IS ACTUALLY HOLDING THE SHRIMPING INDUSTRY TOGETHER WITH HIS OWN TWO HANDS AND COUNTY 50% OF THE SHRIMP BOATS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY LOCATED ON THOSE DOCKS ON VILLAGE CREEK 50% TO OF THIS PROPOSAL OR PLAN OR THOSE PROPERTY SPECIFIC ITEMS. AND SO HEARD AT TIMES AT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO GO IT'S GOT TO GO ON ITS OWN MERIT. THIS IS A MERITORIOUS PLAN IN AND OF ITS OWN RIGHT. THIS MAINTAINS THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CPO.
IT MAINTAINS THE RURAL CHARACTER AND IT DOES SO WITH THOSE ITEMS WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED SO WHAT WE CONSISTENTLY HEAR AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S COMING FROM FOLKS THAT KNOW THAT THE PLAN IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED TO PRESERVE RURAL CHARACTER AND THAT WORKS WITHIN THAT PLAN THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE PEN CENTER AND THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE IS THAT THEY GO TO THIS DOMINO EFFECT. IF YOU CARVE OUT A PIECE OF THE CPO, ANY PIECE IN IT WILL ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND THEY CAN DEVELOP THE WHOLE ISLAND AND IT'LL TURN INTO HILTON HEAD . THAT'S THE FEAR BUT I KNOW FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THIS DECISION. FUTURE COUNTIES COUNCILS CAN MAKE DIFFERENT DECISIONS. THE LAW IS CLEAR BEFORE COUNTY LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAID IT YOUR INDEPENDENT COUNSEL SAID IT. SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION COUNTIES HAS SAID IT.
THERE IS NO LEGAL PRECEDENT CREATED BY THIS PLAN. FULL STOP.
BUT WHAT I HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE IS OKAY MAYBE NOT THE LEGAL PRECEDENT BUT BUT IS GOING TO COME IN AFTER AND SAY WELL YOU DID IT FOR HIM SO YOU GOT TO DO IT FOR ME.
SO COMMON SENSE KIND OF TELLS YOU THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT LEGAL BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DEAL WITH IT. WELL, LET ME SHOW YOU THIS. SO THIS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOWS YOU WHAT THE BIG DEVELOPABLE TRACTS ARE ON SAINT HELENA PRESENTLY NON UNDEVELOPED TRACTS GREATER THAN 150 ACRES IT TOTALS 2448 ACRES .
NOW 213 ACRES IS OWNED BY THE LANDS AND WOODLAND FOUNDATION WHICH DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY IN 161 ACRES IS OWNED BY THE PEN CENTER.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY SO THAT LEAVES YOU WITH 2074 DEVELOPABLE ACRES NOT CONTIGUOUS MAJOR BUT OF BIG TRACTS AND ONLY TWO OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED ON THE WATER THE OTHERS ARE FIELDS WITHOUT ANY TREES SO UNDER THE RESTRICTIONS SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND SAY OKAY WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS THOSE PINE ISLAND GAS YOU'D HAVE TO YOU COULD BUILD 207 HOMES ON THOSE PARCELS AND YOU'D HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO $47 MILLION BASED ON WHAT WE PUT FORWARD THAT'S $230,000 PER UNIT FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO DEVELOP ON SAINT HELENA.
I JUST DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GOING TO DO IT WITH THE COST AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING UP.
SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT COMMON SENSE JUST LEADS YOU TO KNOW THAT WITH WHAT WE TOGETHER ON THIS PLAN WE'VE SET AN INCREDIBLY HIGH BAR FOR ANYBODY QUITE HONESTLY WANT TO DO ANY
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DEVELOPMENT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY BUT SPECIFICALLY ON SAINT SO ON THAT SIDE OF THE PLAN WE HAVE THE OTHER HALF OF THIS WHICH ARE THE PUBLIC BENEFITS WHICH WE'VE WORKED THROUGH WITH COUNSEL THROUGH YOUR ATTORNEYS AND WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC .AND SO THE KEY TO THIS IS THOSE OTHER ITEMS CAME TO YOU IN THOSE SORT THAT SURVEY IMPROVING TRANSPORTATION PROTECTING OPEN SPACE, CREATING HOUSING, KEEPING COUNTY TAXES AND COST UNDER CONTROL. MANY OF THOSE ARE ACCOMPLISHED BY THE FIRST PART THAT I TALKED ABOUT BUT THE REMAINDER ARE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THESE BENEFITS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
FIRST BEFORE WE GET THERE, IT'S INTERESTING THAT WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TAXES SO ALL NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO INCREASE TAX REVENUE. I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST A FACT. BUT WHAT USUALLY COMES ALONG WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT IS IMPACTS AND SO THERE ARE NO HERE THAT AREN'T ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN BUT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE TOTAL TAX REVENUE FROM THIS PROPERTY IN A YEAR $1,185,000 OVERALL THIS PROPERTY HAS CONTRIBUTED TO BEAUFORT COUNTY REVENUE $160,000 OVER TEN YEARS AND IN ONE YEAR IT'S GOING TO BE 1.185 MILLION AND THAT IS AN INCREASE MORE THAN A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE MORE IMPACTFUL MORE HOMES MORE DOGS PLAN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNDER THE CPO.
SO OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD BY REDUCING DENSITY AND REDUCING IMPACTS AND MOVING A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY OUT OF CPO TO ALLOW THAT 6 MILLION ADDITIONAL DOLLARS IN REVENUE OVER THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD 7,200% INCREASE OVER THE CURRENT USE OR HISTORIC PRICES 180% OVER THE HIGHER IMPACT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO WE SEE ANOTHER THING YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN A LETTER EARLIER IS PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING TO SKYROCKET WE UNDERSTAND THEY'RE GOING TO SKYROCKET THIS PROPERTY FOR SURE.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO GREAT DEAL AT ALL, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE TREASURER WAS HERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE STUFF IN MILLAGE RATES IF YOU'RE NOT ADDING IMPACTS I.E. YOU DON'T NEED MORE TAX REVENUE BUT YOU HAVE MORE VALUE MORE REVENUE COMING IN THAN WHAT CHANGES WHAT CHANGES AS YOUR MILLAGE GOES DOWN AND WHEN YOUR MILLAGE GOES DOWN THAT MILLAGE DOESN'T JUST GO DOWN FOR ONE PROPERTY GOES DOWN FOR ALL PROPERTIES AND IF YOU APPLY THAT ACROSS THERE'S THEORETICALLY TAXES COULD GO DOWN.
I'M NOT GOING TO STAND HERE AND TELL YOU THAT THIS PLAN IS GOING TO MAKE TAXES DOWN.
WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY IS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE TAXES GO UP.
WHAT ABOUT SCHOOLS SO MOST OF THESE HOMES WILL BE SECONDARY RESIDENCES AND AS WE KNOW IN SOUTH CAROLINA SECONDARY HOMES DON'T AH PAY THE OPERATING COST OF SCHOOLS ALSO DON'T HAVE CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS A CHILD COSTS $13,000 EVERY YEAR TO EDUCATE.
SO WHEN WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION PLUS THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, IT'S A NET BENEFIT TO YOUR SCHOOLS OF $1.2 MILLION EVERY YEAR MAINTAINING RURAL CHARACTER DOWN ZONING THE PROPERTY. SO WE PUT IN THERE JOBS AND I MENTIONED EARLIER AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE STATEMENT ABOUT THE JOBS THE GOLF COURSE WHICH IS OUTLINED AND THE BUSINESS WILL BE THERE WILL EMPLOY 35 TO 70 INDIVIDUALS PERMANENTLY TIME THERE'LL BE TWO THERE'LL BE MORE JOBS CREATED DURING CONSTRUCTION THOSE PERMANENT FULL TIME JOBS THAT ARE THE ONES THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE WHILE THOSE JOBS SERVICE ARE SERVICE JOBS SOME OF THEM ARE SERVICE JOBS, OTHERS ARE NOT. BUT EVEN THE SERVICE JOBS THAT MAKES A REAL DIFFERENCE TO PEOPLE AND IS ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO LOCATE JOBS CLOSE TO WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT THOSE SERVICE JOBS MAY NOT MUCH TO THE FOLKS THAT PUT OUT THAT AD BUT THEY MEAN A HECK OF A LOT TO THE GUY WHO'S GOING ON THE GETTING ON THE BUS AT BRADLEY SEAFOOD AND GOING DOWN TO HILTON HEAD ON A THREE HOUR ROUND TRIP EVERY DAY. THAT ROUND TRIP OVER A YEAR 780 HOURS OVER THE TERM OF THIS TEN YEAR PERIOD OVER THE TERM THIS TEN YEAR PERIOD THAT IS 365 DAYS ONE YEAR OF THAT GENTLEMAN'S LIFE THAT HE'D GET BACK IF HE COULD JUST GO DOWN THE ROAD THE END OF THE ROAD AND GO TO WORK THERE INSTEAD OF HILTON HEAD.
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SO EXCUSE ME, MR. DUKES. SO I'M GOING TO I WE WERE GOING TO STOP AT NINE WE'RE GOING TO GO TILL TEN BEFORE RECESS. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO SOMEBODY, STEP OUTSIDE TO BE CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL. MR. DUKES IS STILL TALKING. THANK YOU.GO. SO ANOTHER LARGE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT STATUTE AND THE BENEFITS THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THAT STATUTE AND UNDER WHICH COUNTY CODE SPECIFIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS ISHE ACQUIN OF LAND FOR THE CULTURAL CENTER AND ENTREPRENEURIAL MARKET. THAT'S CURRENTLY WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THAT $600,000 REPRESENTS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT NEEDED TO ACQUIRE THAT LAND WHICH WOULD BE HELD BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. ALSO ACCESS TO WATER IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING BOTH ON SAINT HELENA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO QUITE FRANKLY ALL BEAUFORT COUNTY.
AND SO THE REQUEST WAS MADE AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT THERE'S $500,000 FOR BOAT RAMP REPAIR SPECIFICALLY STATION CREEK LANDING WHICH I'VE BEEN USING THAT LANDING 30 YEARS BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY THE MOST USED BOAT RAMP IN ALL OF YOU FOR COUNTY.
IT'S A LITTLE SURPRISING BUT BUT IT IS ALSO 500,000 FOR A TURN LANE AT DELAMAR ROAD AND ALSO REQUEST IN I THINK IN RESPONSE TO WHAT WAS TALKED TO EARLIER TONIGHT TO MATCH CEMETERY SURVEY ON SAINT HELENA $75,000 FOR THAT CEMETERY SURVEY ON TO FUSCHIA.
SO THE SAINT HELENA GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURAL CENTER AND VILLAGE ENTREPRENEURIAL MARKET AT THE CORNERS COMMUNITY IS IS PROCEEDING AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL MEETINGS IT AND OF COURSE IT CAME FROM COUNCIL WHICH WE ULTIMATELY AGREED WITH WAS WHY ARE YOU DOING YOUR OWN COMMUNITY CENTER. THERE'S SOMETHING IN PROCESS TAKE PART IN THAT AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THESE FUNDS WENT AND SO THAT ALLOWS FOR PROPERTY TO BE PURCHASED.
HERE'S THE ACCESS TO THE WATER SHOWING STATION CREEK LANDING AND THOSE FUNDS THERE'S CURRENTLY A PROPOSAL TO MAKE SOME CORRECTIONS AND THOSE FUNDS TIED TO THAT PROPOSAL.
SO IMPORTANTLY AND THIS IS A COMPONENT THAT HAS COME AT THE VERY END I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF THE FOLKS BECAUSE THIS HAS JUST DEVELOPED WITH SOME REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL ON WHAT'S IN NEGOTIATIONS IS THAT THERE'S AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING AND HOME REPAIR COMPONENT TO THIS PROPOSAL. THESE ARE THE SECTIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THE COUNTY IS TO PURSUE WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IN RURAL IN PARTICULAR HOME REPAIR AND HELP ASSIST WITH CLEARING TITLES THEIR HEIRS PROPERTY. SO RESPONSIVE TO WE PUT FORWARD A GROUP OF FUNDS 3003 I'M SORRY $3,474,963 TO THE BEAUFORT JASPER HOUSING TRUST AND THEIR HOUSING FUND TO DO THE GOOD WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING ACROSS THE COUNTY. THIS IS NOT JUST IN SAINT HELENA. THIS IS ACROSS ALL OF YOU FOR. 20 $500 WILL BE COMMITTED TO PUBLIC BENEFIT FUND FOR GRANTS FOR NONPROFITS TO SUPPORT NATURAL CULTURAL HISTORIC RESOURCES WHICH COULD INCLUDE HOME REPAIR AND CRITICAL I THINK TO OUR AREA COUNTY IS $150,000 TO START A LOCAL HEIRS PROPERTY PROGRAM AND THESE AMOUNTS ARE NOT STATIC THEY CONTINUE. 1% OF THE GROSS SALES PRICE OF EVERY LAST SALE WILL BE PUT INTO FUNDS IN PERPETUITY. SO THERE'S CONTINUAL FUNDING MECHANISMS FORWARD.
SO WHILE THE NUMBER 3 MILLION 474 963 THAT ACTUALLY IS A MATCH OF WHAT BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS COMMITTED TO PUT IN THAT SAME HOUSING FUND. AND SO FOR DOLLAR THIS IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IN RESPONSE TO THE NEEDS IN COUNTY WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE JASPER HOUSING TRUST AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE NEEDS IN THE COUNTY.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AND I'VE INCLUDED THAT AS A SEPARATE LETTER AS WELL BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THE 40 AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS NEVER BEEN GREATER THAN IT IS THE DEMAND NEVER BEEN GREATER THAN IT IS TODAY AND THAT THIS WORK WITHIN THE THREE PLATFORMS THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT THIS BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE IN THE ABILITY OF YOU FOR JASPER HOUSING TRUST TO DO THEIR JOB. AGAIN I WANT TO BE CLEAR THIS IS NOT SOLELY FOR THE LOCAL AREA BUT THIS IS FOR ALL OF YOU FOR COUNTY SO THIS COULD BE USED FOR HOME REPAIR IN BIGGER
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STATE OR THIS COULD BE USED FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE ON HILTON HEAD.IT'S ACROSS THE COUNTY SO WHAT COULD THIS DO USING THE NUMBERS FROM WHAT THE JASPER HOUSING HAD IN 2024? IF WE TAKE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS AND PUT THAT IN THE HEIRS PROPERTY PROGRAM LEAVES $3 MILLION. BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT HAPPENED IN 2024 THAT'S 536 RENTAL UNITS 476 HOMES REPAIRED THROUGH THESE FUNDS, 345 HOMEOWNERS HELP WITH HOMEOWNER ASSISTANCE. THIS IS THAT TRANSFORMATIONAL EFFECT THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND SO THIS WOULD BE ALLOCATED THROUGH THE STREAMS ARE ALREADY EXISTING WITH THE FOR JASPER HOUSING TRUST YOU'LL SEE PARTNERS HABITAT FOR HUMANITY DEEP WELL THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ALL HAVE PROGRAMS AND THEY COULD ALL USE THESE FUNDS.
THERE'S ALSO A HOME REPAIR PROGRAM ON SAINT HELENA THAT COULD ALSO PUT THESE FUNDS TO TO GOOD WORK AGAIN HOME REPAIR IN RURAL AREAS IS WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES.
SO ON THAT HOME REPAIR FRONT WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF SO ONE IS THE HOME REPAIR ITSELF AND THE FUNDS FOR IT BUT THE GREATEST STUMBLING BLOCK TO THAT HOME REPAIR EXCUSE ME MR. AGAIN I MEAN I HATE TO BE A PRINCIPAL AGAIN BUT IT IS EXTREMELY RUDE TO TALK WHEN HE'S TALKING. YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK MR. DUKES.
PLEASE SPEAK CLOSELY INTO THE MIC SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU IN THE BACK.
ALL RIGHT, GO. ALL RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WITH HOME REPAIR IS IF THE HOUSE IS OLDER 1978 OR IF IT'S A MOBILE HOME OF GREATER THAN 20 YEARS OLD OR IF THERE ARE TITLE ISSUES THE STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS THAT NORMALLY FUND THESE PROGRAMS CANNOT USED TO FUND THAT HOME REPAIR. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS INSERTED THESE OTHER PRIVATE DOLLARS TO BE HELD BY A NONPROFIT CORPORATION WHICH COULD BE USED IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES TO HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHICH ARE INELIGIBLE.
AND THE JASPER HOUSING TRUST SAYS THAT 25% OF THEIR APPLICATIONS HAVE HEIRS PROPERTY ISSUES AND WERE INELIGIBLE. THERE ARE 70 HOMES THAT HAVE APPLICATIONS ON SAINT HELENA NOW THAT ARE INELIGIBLE BASED ON THESE ISSUES AND SO THESE FUNDS ARE CRITICAL IN FILLING THE GAP WHILE INDIVIDUALS THEN COME INTO THE PROPERTY PROGRAM GET THE HELP THEY NEED TO CLEAR TITLE TO THEIR PROPERTY SO THAT THEY CAN REALIZE THE BENEFITS THE FULL BENEFITS OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. AND SO THIS HEIRS PROPERTY PROGRAM IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO THIS AND THIS WAS A DIRECT REQUEST BY A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAD THE FORESIGHT TO LOOK THIS AND UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE IN OUR COUNTY.
IT'S AN ISSUE ACROSS SOUTH CAROLINA, ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY AN ISSUE COUNTY HAS BEEN AND QUITE HONESTLY NOTHING'S BEEN DONE TO FIX IT.
NOTHING'S BEEN DONE AND SO WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD A PROGRAM AND THE FUNDS TO BACK IT UP, ONGOING FUNDS TO MAKE REAL IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. SO WHAT YOU CAN'T DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY IF YOU HAVE HEIRS PROPERTY YOU DON'T HAVE CLEAR TITLE IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO PASS DOWN TO YOU WANT TO PASS IT DOWN TO IT MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO STAY THERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THE HOME REPAIR OR THE HELP THAT YOU NEED.
WHAT IF YOU WANT TO SEND KID TO COLLEGE AND YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT A SMALL MORTGAGE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT? YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN'T BUILD A HOUSE.
YOU CAN'T GET A MORTGAGE. YOU CAN'T DO THE THE STUFF THAT MOST OF THE REST OF THE FOLKS THAT OWN PROPERTY CAN DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN I LOOKED AT THE CENTER FOR HEIRS PROPERTY UP IN CHARLESTON. IT MENTIONED THAT THE LEGAL SUPPORT AND FINANCIAL EDUCATION THEY PROVIDE HELPS THE PEOPLE SAVE IT, PROTECT AND GROW THE VALUE OF FAMILY'S MOST PRECIOUS ASSET THE ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD AND THE LAND UNDER THEIR FEET.
AND AGAIN, WHAT WE HEARD A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AT THE ZONING ON THE RAMSEY FARMS IS DEVELOPER IS ALWAYS COME IN, THEY BUILD THEY TAKE THEY CREATE IMPACTS PROBLEMS AND THEN THEY LEAVE. WE'RE NOT LEAVING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A BUSINESS WHICH IS GOING TO CONTINUE GIVE BACK AND CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED AND INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY BUT ALSO PUTTING THIS IN WRITING AND PUTTING IT AS A RESTRICTION PROPERTY THAT EVERY TIME ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TRANSFERS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY 1% INTO THAT FUND FOREVER. WHAT YOU'VE SEEN A DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES THAT.
SO ALL OF THESE GREAT THINGS ARE PROVIDED THIS SUSTAINABLE THAT CREATES REAL SOLUTIONS FOR
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PEOPLE DENSITY WHERE YOU'LL ALWAYS SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COME IN WORKFORCE HOUSING IT COMES IN THE PACKAGE THAT IT CAME IN TWO WEEKS AGO IT COMES IN THE UP ZONING IT COMES IN MORE UNITS AND THEY SAY WELL WE'LL JUST WE'LL GIVE A PART OF OF THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT AS WORKFORCE HOUSING WON'T MORE THAN TWICE WHAT WAS OFFERED TWO WEEKS AGO AND WE'RE DECREASING THE UNITS BY 100 WHERE THEY WANTED 220 MORE AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS PROVIDES REAL CHANGE FOR FOLKS THIS MAIN TAINS THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND PROVIDES REAL CHANGE TO REAL INDIVIDUALS SORT OF LOOK AT THESE TO OVERVIEW WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE TAX REVENUE IT'S OVER 19 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 1% RESIDUAL AMOUNT THAT COMES IN THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY SORT OF TAXES ON THE BUSINESS SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS THE PLAN THAT WE PUT FORWARD IS HERE WE WHAT'S ON THE LEFT TO MAKE IT AND THE NEGATIVE IS THAT THERE'S A GOLF COURSE IT IS AND I'M SORRY THAT I'VE TAKEN A LITTLE WHILE AND I'VE TO PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION BUT THIS IS A SUBSTANCE DEVELOPMENT AND A STARK CHOICE. SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? SO MOVING FORWARD AGAIN THE PUBLIC HAD THIS FOR THREE DAYS. THEY'VE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE FULL AGREEMENT. THEY'VE HAD THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THEY'VE HAD THIS THEY'VE NOT HEARD THIS. THEY'VE NOT HEARD THE ABILITY THOSE THAT HAVE ONLY HEARD WHAT WAS ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER MAY NOT HAVE COME HERE. THE FOLKS THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PLAN LIVE IN BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD AND SHELDON MAY HAVE THOUGHT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME THAT'S UP AND PART WHEREVER THAT IS. MAYBE THEY WANTED TO BE HERE.MAYBE THEY WOULD BE HERE NOW THAT THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS TRANSFORMATION FROM AN AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING STANDPOINT AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD AND TO ALLOW THE CONTINUE ENGAGEMENT CONTINUE ENGAGEMENT WITH COUNCIL IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS BETTER TO DO THAT. AND SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO ALLOW THE PROCESS TO CONTINUE.
WE HAVE TWO MORE READINGS. IT DOESN'T IN TONIGHT. THIS IS REALLY JUST THE START ALTHOUGH IT DOES NOT FEEL THAT WAY BUT IT IS AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT EDUCATION PROCESS AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU MR. JAMES I KNOW I THINK YOU FORGOT THE NO CLAPPING RULE.
YOU'RE KIND OF WASTING OUR TIME. ANYBODY ON COUNCIL HAVE QUESTION BEFORE I GO TO PUBLIC HEARING FROM RESIDENTS? OH, IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT FOR PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC COMMENT? THAT'S WHAT I I'M AT ALL RIGHT.
YOU MR. DUKES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
PUBLIC COMMENT FROM RESIDENTS AGAIN REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING, HOOTING AND HOLLERING I WANT TO KEEP MOVING I'D LIKE THE FIRST FOUR PEOPLE TO STEP FORWARD. ROBERT KNEW PRINCESS SMITH, STEPHEN, MARY, PAULA GHISLAIN I'LL STEP FORWARD AND MR. KNEW YOUR FIRST AND YOUR TIME WILL RUN UP THERE SO LET'S WE HAVE I HAVE LET ME SEE FIVE PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SO LET'S TRY TO KEEP IT MOVING. GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING.
MR. DUKES JUST SPOKE FOR ALMOST AN HOUR BUT HE FAILED TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE MAIN SCHISM AND I'LL START YOUR TIME AGAIN IF IF EVERYONE'S TO BE RESTLESS I'LL JUST CALL A RECESS AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT LONGER. JUST TAKE A CHILL AND LET'S LET MR. NEWS SPEAK. GO AHEAD. MR. SHAW SPOKE FOR ALMOST AN HOUR BUT HE MANAGED NOT TO MENTION THE GOLD GEECHEE NATION .
IT'S ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE THE DEVELOPER HAS NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHAT THIS IS ABOUT, NEVER.
IT IS NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF HOUSES OR INCENTIVES MOST WILL NEVER SEE.
IT'S ABOUT THE CPO, THE PRESERVATION OF THE HISTORY CULTURE AND PRESENCE OF THE GLOBAL GEECHEE NATION THAT SPANS SIX GENERATIONS THAT IS NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE.
THE DEVELOPERS BOUGHT PINE ISLAND KNOWING FULL WELL THAT A GOLF COURSE WAS IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE CPO ZONING AND THEIR INTENT WAS NEVER THREE SIX HOLE GOLF COURSES ALL ARE
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THEY'RE CRAZY WEALTHY AND THEY'RE USED TO GETTING THEIR WAY NOT A PROBLEM.THEY HIRED A MULTITUDE OF ATTORNEYS PR FIRMS CONSULTANTS, LAWYER LEGISLATORS AND LOCALS WHO NEEDED A BOOK. THEY HAD A PLAN. ERIC GREENWOOD LO AND BEHOLD A TERM AMENDMENT APPEARS EXEMPTING ANY OF MORE THAN 50 ACRES FROM THE CPO QUITE A CONCERN QUITE A COINCIDENCE WHEN JANUARY 5TH 20 2300S OF ANGRY RESIDENTS APPEAR BEFORE COMMISSION AND SINK THAT SLEAZY BACKROOM DEAL AND THEN GREENWAY IS GONE.
EXCUSE ME, MR. NO PLEASE DON'T MENTION NAMES. I ASKED YOU NOT TO DO THAT.
OH, WHAT? THEY WANT US SURE OF TWO EVILS THREAT.
GIVE ME MY GOLF COURSE OR I WILL BUILD MORE HOUSES DOCKS. THIS EFFORT WAS SOUNDLY REJECTED AND OVER AGAIN BY UNANIMOUS PLANNING COMMISSION DECISIONS STAFF AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY THE RESIDENTS AND BY THIS COUNTY COUNCIL 2023. THE INCENTIVES NOW OFFERED REAFFIRM THAT THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE NOTHING MORE.
THE BY RIGHTS ARGUMENT WAS ALWAYS AHEAD BREAK AND TRUTH BE TOLD WHO WOULD SPEND BIG BUCKS ON PINE ISLAND WHEN JUST DOWN THE ROAD IT FLIPPED AND HIRER HOWEVER ISLAND YOU CAN GET YOUR GAUGE AND YOUR RESORT THE OCEAN AND OF COURSE GOLF COURSES GALORE THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET THE NUMBERS WORK FOR THE SO CALLED FOR BY RUDE APPROACH IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE PRIVATE GOLF CLUB RESORT THE SADDEST PART IS THAT PEOPLE WITH GOOD HEARTS AND INTENTIONS SOME HERE TONIGHT FOLLOWED THE PIED PIPER A REAL INJUSTICE ANYBODY CAN READ ENGLISH KNOWS FULL WELL THAT APPLICATION DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS OUR COMPREHEND PLAN AND YES THE DOMINOES WILL FALL QUICKLY AS IT HAS 100% OF THE TIME OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS RUMORS ARE ALREADY SWIRLING ABOUT OTHER PERSONS ON THE ISLAND THE CHAMPION WILL HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED UNDOUBTEDLY THE SAME TOURNEY WILL LIKELY BE HIRED THE SAME LAWYER LEGISLATORS UNDER CONTRACT AND A GROUP OF LOCALS WILL BE BOUGHT OFF AND OF COURSE THERE WILL BE SHINY NEW INCENTIVES.
THE EPO IS PROTECTED. THE GOAL OF THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN A QUARTER OF A CENTURY GENERATIONS OF LANDHOLDERS PLOWING THE FIELDS AND HARVESTING THE WATERWAYS IT IS ABOUT PRESERVING THE LEGACY OF DR. YORK BAILEY WHO FAITHFULLY CAME BACK TO HIS BELOVED ISLAND 1916 TO PRACTICE MEDICINE AS THE ONLY DOCTOR ON THE ISLAND FOR A HALF CENTURY. AND DAN BACK ROAD WHERE THERE'S A GOAL A CENTURY LATER THE REMAINS OF LEROY BROWN SINGER WHO SERVED FAITHFULLY ON THIS COUNTY COUNCIL FOR 20 YEARS SEVERAL ROSE WAYS THE RESTING PLACE OF AGNES SHERMAN THE KEEPER, THE CULTURE A FIERCE ADVOCATE FOR SAINT HELENA ELECTED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD IN 1968 AND A FEW FEET AWAY THERE IS A HEADSTONE OF ANOTHER GRAVE WHICH READS MY WOUND IS GEOGRAPHY.
IT IS ALSO ANCHORAGE MR. TWO PLEASE WRAP UP WE'D APPRECIATE THERE'S YOUR WAY THE REMAINS OF PAT CONROY 64 YES. ON SAINT HELENA IN CENTURY HE UNDERSTOOD ABOUT LAND, THE CULTURE, THE HISTORY, THE PEOPLE THIS DECISION WILL GO TO THE HEART OF WHO WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY. AND SO I'LL JOIN FORCES TONIGHT TO ENCOURAGE YOU DEVELOPERS, WHOEVER THEY ARE TO SELL THIS PROPERTY OUR STATE AND LOCAL PARTNERS WHO STAND READY TO BUY AND THIS LAND THERE ARE NO HOUSES, NO DOCKS AND THE COMMON CULTURE AND THE CPO WILL PREVAIL AND YES YOU CAN'T FORCE A DEVELOPER TO SELL BUT YOU CAN FORCE A DEVELOPER TO FOLLOW THE EXISTING ZONING LAWS. IT IS TIME TO START TO HEAL OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS APPLICATION WAS AN INJUSTICE TWO YEARS AGO AND WAS SOUNDLY RECOGNIZED AS SUCH FOR WHO SHARE THE BELIEF THAT THIS APPLICATION REMAINS AN INJUSTICE AND SHOULD BE RESOUNDINGLY REJECTED. I ASK YOU TO PLEASE STAND IN SUPPORT.
THANK YOU MR. NO NOW DON'T STAND NO. OKAY.
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I'M SORRY I'M SORRY I ASK FOR NONE THAT YOU ADDRESS COUNSEL NOT THE PEOPLE AND I ASK NO WHISTLING NO CLAPPING HAPPENS AGAIN WE'LL GO TO RECESS. SORRY YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT WHILE MR. SPOKE I DO APPRECIATE IT BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE RIP ROARING TIME.THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE AND I ASK EVERYONE WE HAVE 64 MORE PEOPLE WE CAN'T DO 5 MINUTES EACH. LET'S PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL. I'M I'M PRINCESS SMITH THANK YOU SO MUCH. TRUST THE COUNCILMEN AND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU. SPEAKING TO THE MIC SO THEY CAN HEAR US.
GO AHEAD. SO I'M HERE MY NAME IS PRINCESS SMITH.
I AM AN ARTIST I'M A MOTHER AND AN EDUCATOR. I'M HERE AND SUPPORT OF PINE ISLAND IN THE AGREEMENT I HOPE IT GETS PASSED BECAUSE I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT IT.
IT SEEMS VERY BRIGHT FOR OUR FUTURE. I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CHARACTER AND TO ME GOOD CHARACTER IS WHEN SOMEBODY COMES WELL WE ALREADY KNOW THAT CHANGE IS GOING TO HAPPEN AS SCIENCE SAYS IT IS INEVITABLE BUT ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS MENTIONED EARLIER SOMETHING ABOUT CHANGE EVOLUTION HAPPENS BY CHOICE AND CHANGE HAPPENS BY FORCE. SO WE ALREADY KNOW CHANGE IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
BUT WITH MEMBERS OF THE PINE ISLAND GROUP WE HAVE MR. ELVIA ,WE HAVE MS..
MARILYN HEMINGWAY AND WE HAVE MR. BROWN ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN TO ME PERSONALLY THAT THEY CARE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY CARE ABOUT PRESERVING, THEY CARE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THEY MAKE THE MOST RESPONSIBLE DECISION.
MY CONCERN MOSTLY OUR YOUTH. MY CONCERN IS ALWAYS GOING BE OUR YOUTH BECAUSE THAT'S OUR FUTURE. I HAVE A DAUGHTER, A YOUNG. SHE CAME TO THE LAST COUNTY MEETING. SHE'S VERY EXCITED WILDLIFE. SHE'S VERY EXCITED ABOUT HER BRIGHT FUTURE. AND SHE WANTED TO COME TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CIVICS JUST PROCESS. BUT SHE WAS MET WITH NASTY NEGATIVITY.
SHE WAS ATTACKED VERBALLY BECAUSE SHE WAS WEARING SHIRT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR FUTURE. WE DON'T WANT OUR CHILDREN TO BE SCARED AND TO FEAR THE SYSTEM. WE WANT THEM TO BE AND TO BE COMFORTABLE, TO COMMENT, TO LEARN. AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE PINE GROUP. THAT HAS HAPPENED AT 808 SEA ISLAND PARKWAY.
I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT IS THERE MAKING SURE THAT OUR YOUTH IS ADVOCATED FOR THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMING FOR THEM, THAT WE HAVE FUN ACTIVITIES FOR THEM ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREETS, THAT KEEP THEM FROM KILLING EACH OTHER AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT WE DO WANT THAT WE KNOW DOES NOT EQUAL TO EVOLUTION.
OKAY. SO YES, I'M HERE IN SUPPORT. I BELIEVE IT.
I READ THE INFORMATION. I THE FACTS AND IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.
SO FOR ME TO LISTEN TO ALL OF THE NASTY THINGS THAT'S BEING SAID ABOUT THIS GROUP TO THE CHARACTER DEFAMATION AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING GROUP IT WOULDN'T BE RIGHT FOR ME TO STAND AND TO SAY NOTHING. SO TODAY I STAND UP AND I SPEAK I SPEAK FOR THE PINE ISLAND GROUP. I AM IN SUPPORT AND I SPEAK FOR OUR FUTURE. SO HOPEFULLY TODAY THE RIGHT DECISION IS MADE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS. STEVEN MURRAY.
STEVEN MURRAY. AND AFTER STEVEN IS PAULA GUILLEN.
ALL RIGHT, MISS BROCK, PLEASE RESET THE CLOCK TO ZERO AFTER EACH PERSON.
GO AHEAD MR. MURRAY. GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF COUNTY COUNCIL.
THANK THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD TONIGHT ON THIS IMPORTANT MATTER AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE IN THESE COMPLEX AND OFTEN LESS THAN CIVIL TIMES.
MY NAME IS STEVEN MURRAY. I'M A THIRD GENERATION TONY, A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER, A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO AND THE FORMER MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BEAUFORT.
I MET MY WIFE, A NATIVE HEAD ISLAND WHILE LIVING ON HILTON HEAD OVER 20 YEARS AGO.
I SHARE THESE PERSONAL FACTS TO PROVIDE CONTEXT TO MY CONTEXT MY COMMENTS TONIGHT.
AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SEEN CHANGES TO OUR BELOVED BEAUFORT COUNTY OVER PAST 40 YEARS AND AS A RECOVERING POLITICIAN THAT LIKE EACH OF YOU WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT THE FUTURE OF THIS REMARKABLE PLACE THAT WE GET TO CALL HOME.
AS YOU KNOW, SAINT HELENA I OWN COUNTY HAS BEEN CLEAR FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
OH SURE YOU GOT MY NOTES MIXED UP HERE. SORRY THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH
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PAPER. I KNOW RIGHT? I'M RIGHT.HE'S FINDING HIS NOTEBOOKS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY AS YOU KNOW, SAINT HELENA ISLAND COUNTY HAS BEEN CLEAR FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS THAT ADDITIONAL GATED RESORTS AND GOLF COURSES ARE NOT WANTED AND ,NOT ALLOWED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE HUNDRED IF NOT THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF CITIZEN PARTICIPATION.
COUNTY AND COUNCIL EXPERTIZE AND EXPENSIVE CONSULTANTS THAT HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY SINCE THE 1990S TO GATHER, REFINE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY CODIFY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE.
THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLAN IN SAINT HELENA IS VERY SPECIAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY.
COUNTY INCLUDING SAINT HELENA IS A BETTER PLACE TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE AND OTHER AND REGULATORY DOCUMENTS IN PLACE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND COMPANION REZONING IS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO THOSE WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED OVER THE DECADES IN OUR DEMOCRATIC AND INCLUSIVE PLANNING PROCESSES. LET'S BE CLEAR MULTIPLE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND THE CPO HAVE LONG STATED NO MORE GATED RESORTS AND NO ADDITIONAL GOLF ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND.
PERIOD AND STOP A GATED GOLF RESORT THE ULTRA WEALTHY WOULD CREATE AN ENCLAVE OF EXCLUSIVITY PHYSICALLY AND SOCIALLY SEPARATING ITS MEMBERS FROM THE BROADER COMMUNITY.
THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT REINFORCES INCOME INEQUALITY AND ERODES THE SENSE OF SHARED PLACE THAT HAS LONG DEFINED NORTHERN COUNTY, ESPECIALLY SAINT ISLAND.
IT DENIES EVERYDAY CITIZENS ACCESS ONE OF THE COUNTY'S NATURAL TREASURES.
IT SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT ONLY THE AFFLUENT ARE WELCOME. WHAT A SHAME WOULD BE THE PUBLIC FACE OF THIS PROJECT MR. ELVIA TROPEANO AND HIS ATTORNEY KEVIN DUKES FOR THE HARVEY AND BATTY LAW FIRM SEEM TO BE COMMITTED TO BUILDING WHAT SOME ARE CALLING THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF SOMEWHERE AROUND 180 RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND 70 YEARS DOCKS.
IF COUNTY COUNCIL ISN'T WILLING TO GIVE IN TO DEMANDS IN A ROAD ALMOST THREE DECADES OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT I SAY SOMEWHERE AROUND HUNDRED AND 48 HOMES BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER WOULD BE. KEEP IN MIND NOTHING SAYS THEY MUST BUILD THAT MANY HOUSES AND DOCKS BUT HAVE CONSISTENTLY SAID THEY WILL BUILD THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM IF THEY DON'T GET THEIR WAY AT THE SAME TIME THESE GUYS ARE TRYING TO TELL US THEY CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE HERE TO HELP.
WE ALL HAVE CHOICES THEY CAN CHOOSE TO BE RESPONSIBLE OR NOT .
CALL ME A SKEPTIC BUT I QUESTION A PERSON'S MOTIVES. THEY SAY I WANT TO HELP AND I WANT TO INVEST IN YOU BUT THAT IS UNDER THE CONDITION THAT YOU MUST GIVE ME WHAT I WANT.
THE DEVELOPER AND HIS LEGAL COUNSEL HAVE CONVINCED BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY BUILD A 148 HOUSES IN 70 YEARS DOCKS ON THE PROPERTY. BUT DOES ANYONE ACTUALLY RUN THE NUMBERS? HAS ANYONE COMPARED THE ZONING TO THE CAMPBELL COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT WHICH TYPICALLY IN SOME TIMES DRAMATICALLY REDUCES THE DENSITIES BY RIGHT ON PROPERTIES? A PROMINENT SOUTH CAROLINA LAND USE ATTORNEY ANDREW GALLAGHER HAS POINTED OUT AT LEAST FIVE VARIANCES WOULD BE NEEDED TO ACHIEVE THE BY RIGHT DENSITIES BEING PROMOTED. THIS PUBLIC VARIANCE PROCESS WOULD SURELY BE A LONG LEGAL PUBLIC FIGHT GIVEN HOW CONTROVERSIAL THIS PROJECT HAS BECOME AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SHOWED UP TONIGHT. MY GUESS IS IT WILL TAKE THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS TO RUN THIS LEGAL GANTLET AT A GREAT EXPENSE. ADDITIONALLY HAS ANYONE COMPLETED A BUILD ABILITY ANALYSIS ADDED UP THE COST TO PREPARE 500 ACRES OF HEAVILY TREED ADJACENT RAW LAND FOR 149 HOMES. SITE PREP ROADS.
SIDEWALKS. STORMWATER WATER. SEWER POWER.
TELECOMMUNICATIONS IMPACT FEES. CAPACITY FEES AND ALL THE OTHER EXPENSIVE THINGS REQUIRED TO PREPARE A SITE TO BE READY FOR HOUSES TO BUILT MY BACK OF THE NAPKIN BUILD ABILITY ESTIMATES SAY THE NUMBERS SIMPLY DON'T WORK MEANING THE DEVELOPERS NOT BE ABLE TO RECOUP THEIR MONEY MUCH LESS MAKE A PROFIT ON THE 49 HOMES OR MOST LIKELY A LOT LESS GIVEN THE HARD OF BUYING THE PROPERTY AND PREPARING THE LAND FOR VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT. I KNOW THE DEVELOPERS WANT US TO BELIEVE ACCEPTING AN EXCLUSIVE GATED GOLF RESORT FOR THEIR UBER WEALTHY FRIENDS IS A BETTER BET THAN AGAINST THE ABILITY TO PERMIT AND BUILD HUNDRED AND 49 HOMES AND A 70 DOCKS. BUT DOES ANYONE ELSE THINK THAT THIS IS AKIN TO TAKING THE CASINO WORD FOR IT ESSENTIALLY TELLING US THAT THE ODDS ARE BETTER ON THEIR ROUTE ROULETTE TABLE THAN THEIR BLACKJACK TABLE? I THINK THE BY RIGHT NUMBER IS BEING PROMOTED OR A WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT AREN'T REALISTIC AND ARE MEANT TO SCARE THE PUBLIC AND EACH OF YOU AND GIVING IN TO THEIR DEMANDS. PLEASE DO NOT FOOLED OR INTIMIDATED BY THEIR LEGAL CHALLENGES. ON ONE HAND I THINK IT'S
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ADMIRABLE THAT MR. TROPEANO AND HIS ANONYMOUS FINANCIAL PARTNERS ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN INITIATIVES THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE PEOPLE ST HELENA IN OTHER PARTS OF COUNTY BECAUSE THERE IS QUESTION NO QUESTION ST HELENA NEEDS ADDITIONAL SUPPORT TO CONTINUE BREAKING THE CYCLE OF GENERATIONAL POVERTY AND TO PRESERVE THE RICH CULTURAL HERITAGE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY COUNTY BUT TO THE UNITED STATES. BUT I FIND IT EXTRAORDINARILY DISTASTEFUL AND I HOPE DO TOO THAT THE FOLKS WITH THE MEANS TO HELP ARE ONLY WILLING TO PROVIDE THIS ASSISTANCE IF YOU GIVE IN TO THEIR DEMANDS AND AN INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE.QUITE SIMPLY, THIS A LAND USE DEBATE AND DISCUSSION. PLEASE CONSIDER THE LAND USE ON ITS MERITS AND SET THE PUBLIC BENEFITS HUSH ASIDE AS YOU DECIDE HOW YOU WILL VOTE TONIGHT. I ALSO BELIEVE THIS PROJECT HAS BROADER IMPLICATIONS FOR ST HELENA. DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS MORE FOLKS DISCOVER THIS PLACE THAT WE ARE FORTUNATE TO CALL HOME. REMOVING THIS PARCEL FROM THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY AND APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO ALLOW AN INAPPROPRIATE USE TELLS OTHER LANDOWNERS AND ACROSS THE COUNTY THE COUNTY COUNCIL IS WILLING TO COMPROMISE LONG STANDING COMMUNITY SUPPORTED LAND USE POLICY.
IF YOU THROW MONEY AT THEM MR. MURRAY OR ASK YOU TO RAMP IT UP SO CLOSE OKAY.
APPROVING THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CREATES A CONFRONTATIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT PITS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AGAINST YOU AND EACH OTHER.
TELLS THE PUBLIC THAT INVESTING TIME AND PROVIDING FEEDBACK IN YOUR NEXT COMPREHENSIVE IS A WASTE OF THEIR TIME. IT TELLS DEVELOPERS THAT OUR VISION AND COMPANION CODE DON'T MATTER IF YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH MONEY. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS HOW YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS AND MAJORITY OF YOU ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR STANDING UP AND DEFENDING CODES AND VISION. OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. PLEASE HOLD THE LINE TONIGHT.
IN CLOSING IT IS MY SINCERE HOPE THAT EACH OF YOU WILL VOTE TO DENY THE PINE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND REZONING. I ALSO HOPE THAT THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NEEDS OF ST HELENA ISLAND WILL NOT BE .
THIS PROJECT HAS HIGHLIGHTED A NEED TO CONTINUE REFINING DEVELOPMENT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE USES ACROSS ST HELENA ISLAND AND THE OTHER RURAL PARTS OF COUNTY.
I ENCOURAGE COUNTY COUNCIL IMMEDIATELY AND AGGRESSIVELY BEGIN A PARCEL LEVEL REVIEW OF ZONING DENSITIES AND IMPLEMENT CHANGES VIA ZONING OR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO BETTER ALIGN THE COMP PLAN VISION WITH REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. I ALSO ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE MAKING SOCIAL AND CULTURAL INVESTMENTS IN SAINT HELENA ISLAND.
THE COUNTY'S APPROXIMATE APPROVED BUDGET THIS YEAR IS $199 MILLION, UP $34 MILLION FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR DUE TO NEW GROWTH MONEY NOT A TAX INCREASE.
I BELIEVE SUPPORT FOR THE PEOPLE OF SAINT HELENA IS NOT A FISCAL ISSUE.
IT'S A PRIORITY ISSUE. PLEASE SHOW SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND THE REST OF YOUR FOUR COUNTY THE DECADES OF PUBLIC PLANNING AND THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION OVERLAY MATTER.
PLEASE SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND THE REST OF COUNTY THE COUNTY COUNCIL CAN'T BE BOUGHT.
PLEASE VOTE NO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ATTENTION.
HELLO, GLEN. PAULA GILLAN, PLEASE AND I'M TO ASK AGAIN EVERYBODY CAN'T TAKE 10 MINUTES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL 2 A.M..
PAULA, YOU'RE UP. GO AHEAD. WOW.
GO. YOU ARE THE TIME'S RUNNING. GO.
GOOD. LET'S YOUR POST. GENTLEMEN.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO BE HERE AGAIN. I JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CPO, THE THINGS THAT IT COVERS AND THE THINGS THAT THE PEOPLE ON SAINT HELENA DO WANT AND DON'T WANT. THE PEOPLE OF SAINT HELENA WANT OR NEED TO BE SAVED WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF THE ISSUES HE'S SEEMS TO BE COVERING WITH HIS NEW PLAN SHOW THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE GOLDEN CULTURE IS ONE WITH THE CPO THE DEVELOPER WANTS THE ZONING CHANGE IF THAT HAPPENS AND HE'S ABLE TO BUILD A GATED GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY IT THREATENS THE DESTRUCTION OF HABITAT FOR SHOREBIRDS SUCH AS MY FAVORITE ROSEATE SPOONBILL PELICANS EGRETS HERONS AND OTHERS CRABS OYSTERS TURTLE DEER ANY OTHER LAND ANIMALS WILL ALSO LOSE THEIR HABITAT AND THE WATERWAYS WILL SUFFER FROM THE CHEMICAL RUNOFF FROM THE GOLF COURSE CHEMICALS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE MULTI WOULD HAVE IN COMMON WITH THE KIND GENTLE GULLAH CULTURE. I FOR ONE DO NOT WANT TO BE RESPONSE SYMBOL FOR THE DESTRUCTION EXTINCTION OBLITERATION AND RUINATION AND POSSIBLY THE END OF THE GULF ON SAINT HELENA. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK OF YOU WOULD WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT EITHER THE DEVELOPER WILL COME, THEY WILL DESTROY AND THEN THEY'LL LEAVE AND EVERY ALL OF THEIR MESS WILL BE LEFT BEHIND. THANK YOU.
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PART IV TOM DONOHUE. AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU SIGNED UP FOR A THREE I'M NOT CALLING YOU TILL THE NEXT ONE. THIS IS ITEM TWO. TOM, YOU'RE UP.TOM DONOHUE, YOU SIGNED FOR TWO. HOW Y'ALL DOING? I'LL TRY. KEEP THIS SHORT. OKAY.
CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YEAH. JUST GET REAL CLOSE TO THE MIC ,Y'ALL. NOW FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS COVERING ALL THE NEGATIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT PINE ISLAND TODAY I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE THING RESPECT THE GULF.
HAVE A RICH HISTORY OF FAITH FAMILY AND COMMUNITY. THE DISPLACEMENT FROM THEIR HOMES FROM JACKSONVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA TO JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA HAS ON FOR OVER 60, 70 YEARS. SAY HOW LONG IT IS ALL THEY HAVE LEFT.
I'VE MET SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE THE UNIQUENESS OF BEING ON SAINT HELENA.
YOU KNOW AND I MOVED HERE SEVEN YEARS AGO FROM VIRGINIA AND. I DON'T BELIEVE IN COINCIDENCES OR ACCIDENTS. WE ENDED UP ON SAINT HELENA FOR A PURPOSE AND I'M FIRMLY BELIEVING THAT THE GOOD LORD SENT US HERE FOR THIS PURPOSE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE UNTIL THIS IS SETTLED . I WANT TO ALSO GO BACK TO THE SHOOTING IN CHARLESTON 2015. THAT WAS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF GALA COMMUNITY WHERE I REMEMBER THOSE FOLKS WRAPPED THEIR ARMS AROUND EACH OTHER AND PRAYED FOR THE LOST SOULS AND THEN OPENLY FORGAVE THE SHOOTER AND TO ME THAT SPOKE AMAZINGLY.
THERE WASN'T ANY PROTESTS OF ANY KIND. THERE WASN'T ANY HATRED SPEWED EVERYWHERE. YOU KNOW THAT THAT BLEW MY MIND .
THE FIRST SIGHT OF THE CPO 25 YEARS AGO WAS PASSED OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE GULLAH LEGACY. I PRAY THAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS THE COURAGE TO OPEN HIS MIND TO THE HAVOC HE'S CREATED . SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO IN MY LIFE ESPECIALLY IN MANY TIMES I'VE HAD TO GATHER MY LOSSES AND MOVE ON. AND WHAT I BELIEVE IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN HERE. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. THE THE THE NUMBERS WERE THERE EVERYTHING THERE WHEN HE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY AND I DON'T KNOW I JUST IN THIS DAY AND AGE THE LOVE OF MONEY BEING, THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL IS SO ALIVE AND WELL TODAY.
I'M GETTING SICK OF IT. AND WE DON'T NEED YOU. LET'S PLEASE STAY ON THE TOPIC OF PINE ISLAND. KEEP GOING. I ALMOST DONE.
OH, THAT'S PART OF PINE ISLAND. YES. TIES RIGHT.
AND HERE. 60 PEOPLE TO GO. ANYWAY, I ALSO PRAY THAT YOUR DECISION TONIGHT IS BASED ON RESPECT FOR THE GULLAH PEOPLE WHOM I HAVE COME TO LOVE DEARLY AND THEIR HISTORY AND ON AND ON AND THIS IS ALL THEY. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING.
IF I COULD REAL QUICK I KNOW YOU ALL READ GOVERNOR MCMASTERS LETTER THREE YEARS AGO BUT WE HAVE THAT. THANK YOU. RIGHT.
WE HAVE THAT. DID YOU READ IT RAISED IN THE PACKET.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL.
YES. FILMMAKER DOMINIC MCDANIEL PROBABLY NICK DOMINIC BUT I DON'T KNOW IT SAYS MEET DOMINIC AND THEN QUEEN QUOTE AND THEN ANTHONY JONES ARE NEXT.
SO COME ON UP. PHIL, IT'S ALL YOURS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS FILMMAKER DOMINIC AND I'M A BORN AND BRED CORNBREAD FED GULLAH GEECHEE NATIVE HERE BORN AND RAISED. I'M A RETIRED EDUCATOR. I'M A RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT 36 YEARS IN THE MILITARY AND COUNTING. I'M MINISTER AT THE HISTORIC BAPTIST CHURCH AND. I'M A VICE CHAIR OF THE CPO. I WANT TO JUST SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE IT'S IRONIC THE REASON THIS PROPERTY IS SO VALUABLE.
SO THIS DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE IN AND MISSED OUR VIDEO IS BECAUSE OF THO OUR WAY OF LIFE.
I GREW UP WHERE I COULD JUST WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND ALL I TOOK WITH ME WAS A BUCKET A STRING OROPESA AND A DIP NET AND I CAN CATCH BLUE CRAB ALL DAY LONG.
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GOT A LITTLE OLDER. LEARN HOW TO THROW A CAST AND IT CAUGHT SHRIMP AS MUCH AS I CAN BE RIGHT BEHIND PIN CENTER GOT OLDER I STARTED FISHING STILL FISH WITH MY FATHER TODAY WE GO MAYBE ONCE A WEEK I SEE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE ON THE RIVER BUT VERY REASON THE VERY REASON WHY IS PROBABLY SO VALUE IS WHY THEY WANT THIS PROPERTY.AND IT'S IRONIC BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IF WE ALLOW THEM TO DO WHAT THEY DO THE VERY THING THAT ATTRACTED THEM WILL BE TAKING AWAY. IT WILL ALL BE ERODED AND I WANT YOU TO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND. OUR STATE SENATOR HERE SAID, THE CPO HAS LOST THIS FOCUS WHILE OUR RESPECTFULLY SAY THAT SHE'S VERY WRONG.
MY IN THAT IN THE LATE 1970S I REMEMBER HIM ON AN INTERVIEW ON GOOD AMERICA.
IT WAS A NATIONAL NEWS STATION AND HE WAS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION OF ST HELENA ISLAND. THIS IS NOT NEW THAT WE JUST STARTED DOING HE WORK FOR PEN CENTER AND A PROGRAM CALLED BLACK LAND PRESERVATION BLACK LAND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THEY TALK THEY TALK ABOUT HEIRS, PROPERTY. THEY TALKED ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF HOLDING ON TO BROWN. SO THE PROPOSAL TALKING ABOUT IS PROPERTY. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT ALL ALONG .
IT'S BEEN A CORNERSTONE OF THAT AND. THEY CONTINUE TO BE.
WELL, MY DAD I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL I GOT INVOLVED WITH THE CPO THAT HE WAS ON THE FOUNDING COMMITTEE OF THE ORIGINAL CPO AND I YOU WERE AND IF THE CPO GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION THAT CAN'T BE SO BECAUSE 87 YEARS OLD. HE CAME HERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND STOOD JUST BEFORE THIS VERY PANEL AND GAVE A RIVETING TESTIMONY WHY WE SHOULD SUPPORT THE CPO. SEE IT HASN'T CHANGED AT ALL. ALL THE CPO DONE IS REINFORCE ITS OWN LANGUAGE FROM ITS ORIGINAL INTENT AND THAT'S TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE PEOPLE AND THE CULTURE OF SAY HOW AM I TO GO PEOPLE? AND IT'S SUPPORTERS.
SO I WANT TO SAY I WANT TO SAY THIS AND LEAVING I WANT TO SAY THIS AND LEAVING I CAN'T SING A SONG BUT THAT WAS A GREAT POET A MUSICAL POET AND HIS NAME WAS JAMES CLEVELAND.
AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE TO THE COUNCIL.
MADAM CHAIR, HE SAID I BUT I'M GOING TO SAY WE DON'T FEEL NO WAYS TIRED.
WE'VE COME TOO FAR FROM WHERE WE STARTED FROM. SO NOBODY TOLD THAT THE ROAD WOULD BE EASY BUT WE'VE COME TOO. BUT BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT BROUGHT US THIS FAR. IT'S VITAL YOU'RE A MINISTER. I GOT IT.
QUEEN QUEST. QUEEN IS NEXT. AND THEN ANTHONY JONES.
GOD BECAUSE I RESPECT GOD MORE THAN THIS COUNCIL. I SAY AMEN BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS AND WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER IN SHOCK AND HORROR WHEN YOU SAID DON'T SING BECAUSE GOD HAD PUT IT ON MY SOUL TO SING AND HE LEANED TO ME AND I LEANED TO HIM.
WE BOTH SAID I WAS GOING TO SAY DID SHE JUST SAY SING? AND I SAY THIS STRIKES MY HEART TONIGHT BECAUSE I HEARD OUR NEW NEIGHBOR HERE BECAUSE HE'S A COMMONER IN.
THE COUNTRY IN A VINEYARD SAY RESPECT. AS HE STARTED TO SPEAK AND COURSE I NATURALLY THOUGHT OF ARETHA FRANKLIN. BUT MORE THAN THAT I'M NOW REMINDED OF THE NIGHT THAT WE SPENT THE SAME PLACE THAT HE REFERENCED WITH ONE OF MY CLOSE FRIENDS AND MANY OF OUR GULLAH FAMILY DIED IN EMANUEL A.M.E. AND IN THAT FACILITY IS WHERE AS AN INAUGURAL EXPERT COMMISSIONER ON THE GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURAL HERITAGE CORRIDOR COMMISSION. BEFORE THAT COMMISSION WAS ESTABLISHED I WAS PART OF WHAT IS CALLED THE LOWCOUNTRY STUDY OF GULLAH CULTURE. I WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS TO GET THAT STUDY DONE VIA THE GULF SEA ISLAND COALITION'S ADVOCACY.
WE SAT IN THAT CHURCH AND HAD THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO US THAT NIGHT THAT SHOWED US THAT THERE WAS AN ULTIMATE DISRESPECT OUR CULTURE AND WHAT HAD HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY UP AT A MEETING THAT WAS ABOUT GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURE. AND THE FIRST THING WE WERE TOLD WAS DO NOT SPEAK IN GULLAH . AND THE ROOM WENT CRAZY AND YOU
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HEARD PEOPLE SAYING THEY MUST BE CROOKED AND WHAT DID WHAT IT IS ABOUT HOW WE AIN'T GOT GOOD INTENTIONS WHEN WE COME HERE. SO HAD TO STAND UP TO CALM THE ROOM AND I FELT LIKE HARRIET TUBMAN COMMON PEOPLE THAT IT CAN BE BECAUSE CAUSE I HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE I UNDERSTAND THE FIRST MAY NOT UNDERSTAND US BUT WE ARE ALSO AUDIO TAPING.I CAN HELP YOU TRANSCRIBE. BUT HOW CAN YOU COME BEFORE US WHOSE VOICES HAVE BEEN TAKEN? OUR LANGUAGE HAS BEEN TAKEN AND TELL US NOT TO EMBODY AND LIVE OUR CULTURE.
I ONLY ADDED THAT TO WHAT GOD TOLD ME DAYS AGO TO SAY BECAUSE I FEEL THAT DISRESPECT.
NOW WHEN I HEARD DON'T SING I DON'T WHY? BECAUSE EVERYTHING IN MY SOUL SAYS THAT GOD TOLD ME AND GAVE ME A VOICE TO AND TO SING THE SPIRITUAL SAID MY ANCESTORS CREATED ON NOT ONLY SAINT HELENA ISLAND BUT THE SEA ISLANDS.
THE SPIRITUALS ARE THE OFFICIAL MUSIC OF THE GULF NATION AND THIS GREAT STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEY SAY THEY WERE CODIFIED ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND .
YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT AND YOU'VE HEARD IT FOR MORE THREE YEARS. WHAT ELSE WAS CODIFIED ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND? THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT DISTRICT WAS NOT DONE AS WE WOULD SAY DRY LAND. SO ONE THING LIKE I SAID WE HAD WE HAD BEFORE WHEN WE WERE DOING OKAY GOD GAVE US FUNCTION TO DO IT AND I'M ONE OF THE LAST ONE LIVING PEOPLE WHO SERVED ON THE CPO COMMITTEE AND I CHAIRED IT. SO TONIGHT I MUST SAY THAT WHAT I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT I WAS COMING TO THE MIC STARTS NOW WHICH IS GOD SHOWED ME THE WIDOW'S MITE A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND HE SAID THAT'S WHAT YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT? AND I LOOKED UP AND I SAID OKAY THANK YOU GOD. AND THIS MORNING I SAT DOWN AND I STUDIED ABOUT THE WIDOW'S MITE A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE THE LAST SERMON I GAVE AT A CHURCH IN GEORGIA BEFORE IT WAS ABOUT THE WIDOW'S MIGHT AND THAT WIDOW AND WHAT SHE DID WAS SO VALUABLE IT WAS CODIFIED IN SCRIPTURE BECAUSE SHE GAVE OF ALL SHE HAD BUT ALSO IN SCRIPTURE. THERE ARE STORIES ABOUT WEALTHY PEOPLE AND TRUST ME AND BELIEVE ME I LOVE WEALTH I LOVE WEALTH OF SPIRIT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY I JUST WANT TO GET WHERE THEY ARE AT SOME POINT. OKAY SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME. THIS IS JUST TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT EVEN IN SCRIPTURES WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE ANY OF US WAS BORN HERE IT IS IT WAS WRITTEN, IT WAS CODIFIED AND THEY THAT THE ISSUE WAS THAT JESUS WALKED THE WEALTHY PERSON NOT TO BE ATTACHED TO THIS THING BECAUSE WHATEVER YOU ATTACHED TO SHOWS YOUR TRUE HEART AND YOUR TRUE AND IT WAS JUST POINTED OUT BY SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT THE TRUE HEART AND SOUL WAS SO MUCH ALTRUISTIC TOWARD NATIVE LANGUAGES WOULD DO THAT WITHOUT THREATENING US. YOU WOULD DO AND DONATE TO THE EXISTING NONPROFITS THAT GREATLY NEED SUPPORT YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE OF THEM CREATE IT AND SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T NEED IS CERTIFICATION FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED SEVERAL TIMES WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS THE LAW THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT LAW THAT HAS BEEN CODIFIED BEEN PUT ON THE BOOKS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA, THE GULF NATION IN 1999 BEFORE THERE WAS A GULF NATION AND THEN HAS UPHELD REPEATEDLY AS WAS SAID BY PLAN STAFF AND HAS BEEN WRITTEN AND SAID OVER AND OVER. SO TO I THOUGHT ABOUT MY ANCESTORS IN THE MIGHT AND MIGHT AS WELL AS THE MIGHT OF THE WIDOW AND MY TEA BECAUSE IT TOOK THOSE RIGHTS THAT PURCHASED THE LOT THAT LAND THAT WE STILL OWN AND WHY.
ST HELENA ISLAND THE GULLAH GEECHEE EPICENTER FROM JACKSONVILLE NORTH CAROLINA TO JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. THEY TOOK ALL THEY HAD TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A PLACE IN THIS GENERATION RIGHT NOW TODAY. SO WHEN I STAND HERE TODAY I FEEL MY ANCESTORS STANDING WITH ME. I'M STANDING HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF MY MOTHER WHO WOULD HAVE STOOD IN HERE TONIGHT. BUT SHE'S OVER 90 YEARS OLD AND SHE'S TAUGHT ME A LOT ABOUT PINE ISLAND SAINT HELENA VILLE. SHE WAS AT THE FIRST MEETING ABOUT THIS AND SHE SAT IN THE BACK AND SHE THE WORK YOU ALL DID TO UPHOLD CPO. SHE CAME TO ANOTHER MEETING.
SHE APPLAUDED WORK AND SHE DIDN'T COME AGAIN BECAUSE SHE STARTED REMOVING CHAIRS FROM THE COUNTY COUNCIL. SHE WASN'T GOING TO STAND UP FOR HOURS BUT SHE STANDING UP IN HER SPIRIT AND I'M STANDING UP IN HER STEAD IN HER PRACTICE TONIGHT FOR ALL SHE'S DONE ALL SHE FOUGHT FOR ALL THE LAND SHE FARMED AND WORKED ON OVER THE YEARS ON SAINT HELENA AND JUST
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WANT TO SEE FROM MY LETTER MY SIX PAGE DISSERTATION I SENT YOU HERE TODAY THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR SECTION .3. 40 CRITERIA AS YOU DELIBERATE I WANT TO SAY NUMBER ONE PINE ISLAND LLC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PLANS AND REQUESTS ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH NOR DID IS FURTHER THE GOALS AND POLICIES A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PURPOSES OF THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE ESPECIALLY AS THEY RELATE TO SPOTLIGHT ON SAINT HELENA IN THE 2040 BEAUFORT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN FACT THERE IS COMPELLING EVIDENCE DEMONSTRATED THAT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT I USUALLY SAY DESTRUCTION MEANT IT'S NOT IN PERSONAL LEVEL WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE IF THE LAND ALTERED IN THE REQUESTED MANNER. NUMBER TWO GATED AREAS RESORTS AND GOLF COURSES ARE THEY ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CODE OR THE CODE ORDINANCES AS IT IT RELATES TO THE SAINT HELENA ISLAND CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT NUMBER THREE A GOLF COURSE, A RESORT, A GATED AREA MORE HOMES ON PINE ISLAND OR SAINT HELENA VILLE ARE NOT DAMAGED COMMUNITY NEEDS WHERE THE SAINT HELENA COMMUNITY NOT ELSE ON HERE WAS NOT NOW BEFORE THE PINE ISLAND LLC PROPOSAL IS NOT REQUIRED BY CHANGE CONDITIONS BUT IT WILL NEGATIVELY CHANGE THE CONDITIONS OF THE ECO OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND, COUNTY THE CENTER OF THE LANDSCAPE THE PORT ROYALE REGION FOREVER THE NUMBER FIVE THE PINE ISLAND LLC PROPOSAL IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED USES SURROUNDING THE SAINT HELENA ISLAND, PINE ISLAND OR SAINT HELENA VILLE AND THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE ZONE FOR THE REQUESTED USES FOR THE LAND.THE CPO DOES NOT ALLOW FOR GATED AREAS AND GOLF COURSE AS YOU HEARD TONIGHT IS ALLOWED ELSEWHERE IS NOT ALLOWED THERE. NUMBER SIX THE PINE ISLAND LLC ADVERSELY IMPACT NATIVE NEARBY LANDS THE BUILDING OF AND TRAFFIC TO A GATED AREA RESORT OR GOLF COURSE WILL IMPACT NOT ONLY SEA ISLAND PARKWAY IN THE GATED AND THE GATEWAY COMMUNITIES LEADING TO PINE ISLAND SAINT HELENA VILLE IT WILL IMPACT THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, LADIES ISLAND AND PORT ROYAL SINCE PEOPLE TO DRIVE THROUGH THOSE AREAS TO ACCESS PINE ISLAND SAINT HELENA VIEW THE ADVERSE IMPACTS WILL BE ENVIRONMENTAL AND WILL BRING MORE STRAIN TO HIGH WAS IN THE ROAD SYSTEM I ALREADY GAVE YOU A LETTER ON SEPTEMBER SECOND ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS SO YOU CAN JUST REVIEW THAT AGAIN NUMBER SEVEN THE PINE ISLAND LLC BEING PLACED IN THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY DISTRICT IS NOT LOGICAL AND ORDERLY ZONES AND ZONING LAWS AS WELL AS GROWTH BOUNDARIES ARE IN PLACE TO ENCOURAGE LOGICAL AND ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND UPHOLD IN THE CPO AND PROCEEDING WITH THE SPOTLIGHT ON SAINT HELENA WORK IS WHAT IS LOGICAL AND ORDERLY. NUMBER EIGHT I ANSWERED WITH NUMBER ONE OKAY THAT THEY WILL RESULT IN ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT INCLUDING AND NOT LIMITED TO WATER AIR NOISE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WILDLIFE, VEGETATION, WETLANDS AND NATURAL FUNCTIONING OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THAT INCLUDES THE BULKHEAD REQUEST THAT'S BEING ALREADY TO TRY TO GET ONE NUMBER NINE THE PINE ISLAND LLC WILL NOT RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ADEQUATELY SERVED BY PUBLIC FACILITIES. IT WILL IN FACT BRING A STRAIN TO CURRENTLY TAX PUBLIC SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAUSE MORE ISSUES IN REGARD TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PARTICULAR I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE POINTS THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS BUT I COULD NOT JUST GET STRAIGHT TO THE POINT BECAUSE I HAD TO ADDRESS THE DISRESPECT TO ME THE GALLEY NATION OF MY ANCESTORS BY SAYING THAT WE COULD NOT SING.
SO SINCE I'M GOING TO ABIDE BY YOUR LAW YOU SAID BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO ABIDE BY THE LAW TO CPO. I'M JUST GOING TO REPEAT THE WORDS OH NO DON'T TURN BACK YOU MAKE THE LEAD A SHAME. SO CPO AND THE CPO COMMITTEE AND ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY APPRECIATES ALL OF YOU UPHOLDING THE CPO FOR ALL THIS TIME AND WE KNOW THAT YOUR JOBS CAN BE THANKLESS AND YOU SPENT HOURS BEYOND WHAT YOU'VE DONE TONIGHT TO.
READ THESE THINGS TO RESEARCH THESE THINGS AND I MUST TELL YOU I APPRECIATE IT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR WORK BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US SOME TIME AND RESPECT BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THAT TONIGHT AND SO ON BEHALF OF THE 14TH THOUSAND PLUS OTHER SUPPORTERS OF THE GULLAH BEACHES SEA ISLAND COALITION, THE GULLAH KITCHEN NATION WHO ALSO AGREE THAT YOU SHOULD CONTINUE TO UPHOLD THE CPO I WILL TURN THIS IN FOR THE RECORD THIS IS A PETITION ONLINE PETITION THAT WAS SIGNED BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS BUT ONCE AGAIN I REMIND YOU AND I KNOW MY NATIVE LANGUAGE IS NO DISHONOR. Y'ALL KNOW HEART IS ABOUT TO
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BREAK NOT SINGING RIGHT NOW OUT OF RESPECT FOR THIS BODY OF MY PAST DID MY BISHOP SAY GOING AND SAYING IT WAS DYING HE SAID DON'T SAYING SO THE WORDS OR NO DON'T BACK YOU'VE MAKE MY LEADER SHANE GOOD NIGHT THANK YOU ANTHONY JONES PLEASE. I JUST WANT YOU TO GIVE TO DONE SO I CAN WRITE IT DOWN. ANTHONY JONES AFTER IT'LL BE BELINDA JONES PAT HARVEY PALMER NEXT GO AHEAD, MR. JONES ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR.GOOD EVENING, COUNTY COUNCIL MY NAME IS ANTHONY WM JONES. I'M A 23 YEAR RESIDENT OF SAINT HELENA YET I'M A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF BEAUFORT COUNTY. I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO UPHOLD THE CULTURE PROTECTION OVERLAY AS IT STANDS DENY THE DEVELOPER'S REQUEST TO REMOVE PINE ISLAND FROM THE CPO AND STAND FIRMLY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNTY STAFF. PLEASE STOP WASTING TIME WITH THE DEVELOPER WHOSE GOAL IS NOT PRESERVING BUT PROFIT PROFIT AT THE EXPENSE OF WHAT MAKES THESE ISLANDS UNIQUE.
I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT VALUE VALUES NOT MEASURED IN MONEY OR NUMBERS VALUE IS HERITAGE VALUE IS CULTURE VALUE IS LAND PASSED DOWN TWO GENERATIONS ONCE THESE THINGS ARE LOST THEY CANNOT BE REPLACED WHY PEOPLE MOVE HERE. MANY OF YOU CAME TO FOR IT BECAUSE IT OFFERED SOMETHING THE BEACHES THE BEAUTY OF THE MARSH, THE WEATHER HISTORY, THE GULF GEECHEE CULTURE THAT SENSE THIS PLACE APART FROM ANY OTHER PLACE IN THE WORLD IF THOSE THINGS WERE THE QUALITIES THAT DREW YOU HERE, WHY WOULD YOU ALLOW SOMEONE WITH NO RESPECT FOR OUR ORDINANCES OR CULTURE TO DESTROY THEM FOR PERSONAL GAIN? THIS DEVELOPMENT KNEW THE PROPERTY WAS IN A PROTECTED AREA WHEN HE BOUGHT HE CHOSE TO GAMBLE ON OUR LAWS AND. NOW HE'S ASKING YOU TO CHANGE THEM FOR HIS BENEFIT.
LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY ROOTS. I WAS BORN IN BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
I WENT TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS. I GRADUATED PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WENT TO COLLEGE WAS COMMISSIONED IN THE SERVICE, SPENT 20 YEARS AND CAME BACK HOME TO RAISE MY FAMILY.
MY PARENTS TEACHERS AND MINISTERS TAUGHT ME THE REAL VALUE MUST RISE ABOVE FINANCIAL WORTH. MY LATE MOTHER WHOM WE BURIED JUST LAST OFTEN TOLD ME SON GET AN EDUCATION BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET IT NOBODY CAN TAKE AWAY FROM YOU.
SHE ALSO SAID AND ONCE YOU HAVE LAND KEEP IT BECAUSE GOD ISN'T MAKING ANY MORE.
THAT LESSON IS WHAT KEEPS ME STANDING HERE TODAY OUR HISTORY THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT ME IT'S ABOUT ALL OF US. AT SEX FORT SAXE AND NOW THE NAVAL HOSPITAL NEWLY FREED PEOPLE ACCORDING TO THE DIARY OF COLONEL THOMAS WENTWORTH HIGGINSON MENTIONED THAT WHEN THE COLORS WERE PRESENTED AT THE SECOND READING OF THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION SOMEONE BROKE OUT IN A IN A HYMN AND A SONG THEY SING MY COUNTRY TIS OF THEE SWEET LAND OF LIBERTY OF THEE SING LAND WHERE MY FATHERS DIED LAND OF PILGRIM'S FROM EVERY MOUNTAINSIDE LET FREEDOM RING COLONEL HICKERSON SAID AT THAT POINT THAT PUT A PUNCTUATION IN THE CEREMONY WHY? BECAUSE THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THESE FOLKS COULD SAY THAT THIS WAS THEIR COUNTRY. MY RELATIVE POPPYCOCK FOUGHT IN THE UNITED STATES COLORED INFANTRY AND 1868 HE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY THAT NOW ME AND SOME OF MY RELATIVES STILL OWN TODAY AND THIS IS NOT JUST A STORY FOR MY FAMILY BUT MANY FOLKS IN HERE CAN SAY THAT THAT'S THE STORY FOR THEM ALSO . I LONG I ALONG YOU HAVE OTHER
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DESCENDANTS ALSO LIVING ON A PORTION OF THAT LAND AND FAMILIES ACROSS IN HELENA HAVE SOME STORIES OF SACRIFICE, PERSEVERANCE, SURVIVAL BUT WHAT'S AT STAKE? THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THE FAMILIES THE CPO WAS DESIGNED TO PROTECT.IF YOU REMOVE PROPERTY YOU SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. YOU WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO MORE DEVELOPERS. YOU WILL DRIVE UP TAXES FOR FAMILIES FROM LAND THEY HAVE HELD FOR GENERATIONS AND YOU WILL DISMANTLE THE GULLAH CULTURE THAT IS THE HEAND SOUL OF THIS THIS COUNTY THE CHOICE BEFORE YOU COUNTY COUNCIL TO ASK YOU PLAINLY WHAT DO YOU VALUE MORE SHORT TERM PROFIT FOR OUTSIDERS OR LASTING CULTURAL HISTORICAL SPIRITUAL WORTH OF SENT OUT IT'S INHALING NOW AND I CLOSE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THE DECISION IS YOURS YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT STAND FIRM OUR BUILDING UPHOLD THE CPO PROTECT SOMEHOW NOW THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THANK YOU MR. JONES NOW I HAVE BELINDA AND PAT HARVEY PALMER THEN CRAIG REEVES WE WE HAVE HEARD FROM EIGHT PEOPLE I WAS 65 SO I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING. GO AHEAD BELINDA. GOOD EVENING COUNSEL AND THANK YOU FOR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU THIS EVENING. I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU AS A MEMBER AS A RESIDENT SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND AS A BUSINESS OWNER AND CO-OWNER OF MORNING GLORY HOMESTEAD FARM ALONG WITH MY HUSBAND A REGENERATIVE SMALL FAMILY FARM THAT IS PRESERVING THE GULLAH GIDGEE CULTURE. I'M REMINDED BY ZITA FARBER, FOGO ISLAND GROUP IN NEWFOUNDLAND THAT WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW ANYBODY TO PUT SOMETHING OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY ITSELF WE'RE NOT TO THE SPORT OF GOLF. WE'RE OPPOSED TO ONE MORE GOLF COURSE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY ON SAINT HELENA, PINE ISLAND IS SANDWICHED BETWEEN AS WE SAW EARLIER DAKOTAS TO GOLF AND ISLANDS TO GOLF COURSES. BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A GOLF COURSE TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP OR OPPORTUNITIES. OUR YOUTH I HAVE FIVE CHILDREN, FIVE CHILDREN WHO LEARNED ABOUT FARMING HOMESTEAD LEADERSHIP AND BUSINESS SKILLS OUR 12.4 ACRES OF LAND THAT HAS AS HUSBAND JUST MENTIONED HAS BEEN IN OUR FAMILY SINCE 1868 THANKS TO THE LEADERSHIP OF SOME NOW COUNCILMAN YORK GLOVER WHO WAS WHEN WE CAME BACK HERE AFTER TONY RETIRED FROM MILITARY WAS AN EXTENSION AGENT AT CLEMSON THE BEAUFORT COUNTY EXTENSION AGENT HERE IN COUNTY AND HE SERVED AS A FARM AGENT AND A FORAGE UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP MY CHILDREN LEARNED A GREAT SKILLS AND AN EXTENSION THE SKILLS THAT WE WERE TEACHING THEM BUT HE GAVE THEM EVEN GREATER OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN ABOUT THE GARDENING AND RAISING ANIMALS HUSBANDRY WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO COME OUR COMMUNITY TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN ABOUT FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY THROUGH PROJECTS THAT THEY WERE RAISING ANIMALS AND SELLING EGGS. THEY WERE PERFORMING TAKING THEIR ANIMALS TO THE STATE AND COUNTY FAIRS AND EARNING RIBBONS AND EARNING PAYCHECKS. THEY THEM FROM PEOPLE RIGHT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THEY LEARNED THEM FROM A MAN WHO WAS LOOKING OUT FOR THE WELL-BEING OF THEM THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CONTINUES DO SO AS WE ARE STRIVING FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES WE CAN LOOK AT THE ROYAL MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL FORAGE CLUB. THEY WERE ABLE TO SELL THEIR PRODUCE THEY WERE ABLE TO FILL OUT THEIR PROGRESS AND SHOW THE FINANCIAL GAINS THAT MADE AS A RESULT OF FOLLOWING THE INS AND
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FROM THEIR OUR PROJECT BOOKS WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON OUTSIDERS TO IN AND OFFER US QUID PRO QUO THOSE WHO WILL WHO WILL GIVE WILL OFFER US THINGS THE MORE THAT WE PUSH THEM AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO OFFER US THE MORE THINGS THEY OFFER, THE MORE MONEY THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE TABLE. WE DON'T THOSE THINGS FOR OUR CHILDREN TO BE SUCCESSFUL. ALL OF MY CHILDREN HAVE FINISHED SCHOOL.THEY ARE ALL HAVE GAINED SECONDARY AND GREATER EDUCATION THEY HAVE ACCESSIBLE JOBS AND IT ALL BEGAN FROM HOME TRAINING AND FROM OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY. THANK COUNCILMAN GLOVER FOR SHOWING MY CHILDREN HOW TO BUILD BIRDHOUSES AND RESPECT WILDLIFE.
THANK YOU FOR SHOWING HOW THEY CAN RESPECT ME ON A FARM OR WORKING ON A FARM AND USING HOMESTEADING SKILLS. WE WANT OUR FARMS TO REMAIN. WE WANT THEM TO CONTINUE TO BE PROFITABLE. WE WANT OUR CLIMATE SMART THAT ARE COMING THROUGH CLEMSON AND SOUTH CAROLINA STATE UNIVERSITY EXTENSION SERVICES TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR FARMS AND TO SHOW US HOW WE CAN AND CONTINUE TO ENRICH AND OUR SOILS AND PROVIDE HEALTHY AND ANIMAL ANIMALS PRODUCE MEATS TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE WORKING HARD CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND WE ASK THAT YOU UPHOLD THIS THE THE CPO THAT PROTECTS OUR COMMUNITY AND PROTECTS OUR WAY OF LIFE. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, PAT HARVEY PALMER AND THEN IT WILL BE GREAVES. HELLO, PET. HELLO.
I'M SORRY I'M NOT USED TO SITTING THAT LONG. THAT'S OKAY.
EITHER WAY WE'RE GOOD. HANG ON. GO AHEAD.
I KNOW EVERYONE HERE IS EXHAUSTED WITH THIS ISSUE BUT PINE ISLAND WILL BE DEVELOPED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I HOPE WE CAN PUT A MOTION ASIDE AND MAKE A COMMON SENSE DECISION FOR THE FUTURE OF PINE ISLAND AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR ST HELENA AND BEAUFORT.
DO THE RESIDENTS WANT MORE OR LESS HOMES? DOES THE FISHING INDUSTRY WE HAVE HERE WANT MORE OR LESS DOGS? WILL A GOLF COURSE REALLY HURT THE. I HAVE HERE 39 SIGNATURES ON PETITIONS THAT I'VE EMAILED TO ALL OF YOU EARLIER. SARAH HAS THEM TO ALL OF YOU. I'LL BE HAPPY TO TURN THESE OVER TO YOU. IMPORTANT PART ABOUT THESE PETITIONS IS THAT 28 OF THEM COME FROM THE ALAMO SUBDIVISION 28 C AND THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE INTO ALAMO SUBDIVISION.
THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED. THEY SAY WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON HERE SO . YOU KNOW, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED. SO THERE IS QUITE THERE ARE QUITE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, THE ALAMO THAT FEEL THAT DOWNSIZING IS THE BEST WAY TO GO.
AND OF COURSE I'M ONE OF THEM. I'VE LIVED THERE 37 YEARS AND SO I'VE BEEN IN THE ALAMO A LONG, LONG TIME. THIS ACTUALLY ALMOST THREE TIMES THE NUMBER OF PRIVATE HOMES THAT HAVE SIGNS IN THEIR FRONT YARD. SO THERE ARE ONLY TEN OF THOSE.
BUT OTHERS I'M SURE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE SIGNS FOR THE SAME REASON THAT OTHER PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO RESPOND. SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE US MAKE A DECISION THAT WE'LL ALL ULTIMATELY REGRET. ST HELENA AND BEAUFORT COUNTY WOULD BE LOSING AN UNBELIEVABLE OFFER. I HAD ONE DEVELOPER WHO HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR 25 YEARS SO TO ME HE HAS NEVER SEEN AN OFFER OF THIS MAGNITUDE. I FEEL SURE THIS WILL HAPPEN IF ANOTHER DEVELOPER EVER COMES INTO PLAY. PINE ISLAND WILL BE DEVELOPED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND THAT DECISION IS IN YOUR HANDS. THANK YOU.
CRAIG REEVES GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
FIRST I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON THIS CONSENT AGENDA ITEM D I SAW HOW YOU GUYS ARE WORKING TO PRESERVE THE HEADWATERS OF ALL THAT LAND UP THERE OUR WATERSHEDS ARE CRITICAL TO ALL THE ECOSYSTEMS AND COMMEND YOU FIRST OF ALL FOR THAT. SECOND OF ALL, I THINK THAT IT
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IS AND I WANT TO MENTION I BELIEVE ACTUALLY IT WAS DISRESPECTFUL TO MOVE THIS MEETING. IT ASSUMES THE FOLKS ON SAINT HELENA COULDN'T GET TO BLUFFTON AND I THINK THAT IS IS DISGRACEFUL. I BELIEVE THEY'RE MORE THAN CAPABLE TO GO TO WHEREVER THEY NEED TO GO TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD AND TO THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT IS JUST DISRESPECTFUL. ALL RIGHT.WELL, I HAVE PAID ATTENTION VERY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OBVIOUSLY OUR COASTAL SEA ISLANDS. MATTER GREATLY TO ME ESPECIALLY MY FAMILY AND I'M NOT ONLY MAKE A LIVING OFF A VILLAGE CRAIG AND SAINT HELENA SOUND BUT WE ALSO FEED OUR COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE FOR GENERATIONS AND I'VE ALSO SHARED WITH YOU FROM THE VILLAGE CREEK FISHING COMMUNITY THE PETITIONS ON THE EIGHTH SO I WON'T GO INTO THAT REALLY WHAT A MORNING TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT OVER WHAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS OF GOING BACK AND FORTH IS FOLKS WILL SAY WELL GOLF IS DEAD . WHY ARE WHY ARE WE BUILDING A GOLF COURSE AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON WOULD COME UP HERE AND SAY IF YOU ALLOW A GOLF COURSE THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE GOLF EVERYWHERE. THAT'S NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME OR WE'VE HAD PEOPLE TO PRESENT TREATIES FROM 1708 THAT SAYS THERE ARE TREATY OUT DATES I'LL BE FOR COUNTING FROM 1711 SO MAYBE SHOULD ALL SURRENDER OUR LAND TO THE MASSES OR WE WILL HAVE BEEN HARES DON'T WANT TO COME HARES AND I CAN'T BELIEVE WE WOULD FORM OUR POLICIES IN SUCH A WAY OR A QUOTE FROM THE CCL THAT I SCREENSHOT THIS WEEK THAT SAINT HELENA IS OURS AND THE LAND BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE AND IT'S NOT FOR PROFIT DON'T. LET THE DEVELOPER ERASE OUR LEGACY AND SO WITH THAT STATEMENT IT KIND DROVE ME TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AS COUNSEL TO DO YOUR RESEARCH IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY ABOUT SAINT HELENA VILLE AND IT DATES BACK TO 1740 AT LEAST THAT'S AS FAR AS I DID MY RESEARCH AND IT'S ON THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF HISTORIC PLACES NOT BECAUSE OF GULLAH HERITAGE BUT RATHER AS A SUMMER RETREAT FOR WEALTHY PLANTATION OWNERS. SO THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO RESEARCH AND.
IT HAS BEEN PRIVATELY OWNED FOR OVER 150 YEARS AND THROUGH THAT TIME IT'S A GATE AND IT'S BEEN USED AS RESORT. SO I CALLED MR. GLOVER TODAY AND HAD A WITH HIM AND I CONGRATULATED HIM ON WHAT I THOUGHT WAS AN INCREDIBLE NEGOTIATION THAT'S BEEN DONE AND HOW I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE INCENTIVES SHOULD ACTUALLY BE CELEBRATED AND UNDERSTANDING THERE IS EXTREME POVERTY ON SAINT HELENA AND THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND I THINK THEY'VE BEEN OVERLOOKED FOR YEARS. HERE'S A CHANCE TO TRULY MAKE A POSITIVE CHANGE GOOD ON SAINT HELENA AND HE SAID IT DIDN'T MOVE THE NEEDLE AND AGAIN I THOUGHT TO MYSELF WHAT IN THE WORLD WOULD IT TAKE TO MOVE THE NEEDLE IF THIS OPPORTUNITY ISN'T WHAT WOULD MOVE THE NEEDLE SO I JUST PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SETTING THE BAR SO THAT YOU GUYS TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE DEVELOPER WHO WOULD COME IN AND WANT TO DEVELOP SOMETHING AND HAVE THIS EXAMPLE TO GO BUY IT FAR EXCEED ANYTHING THAT I COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED WOULD HAVE OFFERED FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU THANK YOU ARNOLD BROWN AND THEN IT'LL BE PASTOR JACK BATSON I GUESS AND CARRY MAJOR ARNOLD YOUR FIRST OKAY.
THANK YOU. OH YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR USUAL SIGNED OH IS OKAY I HAVE A LOT
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OF TEACHERS IN MY FAMILY AND THAT'S OKAY OKAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE I KNOW YOUR JOB IS DIFFICULT UH, STRESSFUL AND TIME TIME CONSUMING. ON THE EVENING OF SEPTEMBER 8TH OF 2005 PULTE HOMES A $27 BILLION CORPORATION NUMBER BUILDING IN UNITED STATES.THEY WERE IN A MEETING LIKE THIS AND THEY HAD TWO APPLICATIONS AND THEY WERE TURNED DOWN. SO WE ASKING YOU FOR CONSISTENCY IF BOTH OF YOUR HOMES WAS TURNED DOWN. NUMBER THREE BUILDING IN THE UNITED STATES THEN THE PINE ISLAND APPLICATIONS SHOULD BE TURNED DOWN FOR SOME OF THE SAME REASONS THEREFORE THE CONSISTENCY TO BE FOLLOWED SETS A PRECEDENT JUST SEPTEMBER 8TH AND WE ASKING YOU TO BE CONSISTENT YOU SHOULD SHOULD ALSO SHOULD DENY PINE ISLAND AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE REASONS WHY IT SHOULD BE AN ISLAND BE DENIED US I HEARD TONIGHT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO BUILD TRUST. ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO BUILD TRUST IS TO BE CONSISTENT.
I'VE BEEN AND MANAGEMENT FOR THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE SUPERVISOR OR A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AND PEOPLE LOOK AT ME AND JUDGE ME FOR BEING CONSISTENT SO WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION FOR ONE YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME DECISIONS FOR THE NEXT PERSON THE NEXT PERSON AND THE NEXT PERSON. I HEARD A STATEMENT BUT RESTRICTED THERE ARE RESTRICTED AREAS ALL OVER BEAUFORT COUNTIES THEREFORE SAINT HELENA ISLAND CAN HAVE RESTRICTED AREA NO GOLF, NO GATE C PINES IS RESTRICTED WORKS FOR SUN CITY FRIPP ISLAND DAUGHTER BEAUFORT COUNTY IN CERTAIN AREAS THE CITY OF BEAUFORT THEY HAVE RESTRICTED ALSO HERE THE REASONS WHY ACCORDING TO SECTION 7.3.40 THEY HAVEN'T MET THE CRITERIA I THINK PIE I THINK THE OTHER CORPORATION PULTE HOMES MEANT MORE OF THE CRITERIA A FEW MORE CRITERIA THAN PINE ISLAND AND QUEEN QUITE HAS GONE THROUGH A LIST OF NUMBER THE NINE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE CRITERIA THEY MEET CRITERIA I'VE E-MAIL SAYS I MEAN THE COMMUNICATION THAT I'VE GOT IS TO BE MAKE THE DECISIONS BASED ON THE MERIT BASED ON THE MERIT SO IT SHOULD BE BUILT THIS DECISION SHOULD BE BASED ON THE MERIT IF YOU WANT MAKE A POLITICAL DECISION THEN LOOK AROUND THE ROOM. LOOK AT THE TAGS THAT ARE BEING WORN BY THE PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY IS WEARING TAGS SUPPORT OF SUPPORT OF MAINTAINING THE CPO.
SO THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO MAKE A DECISION AND EITHER WAY IT BE DENIED IT.
I'M I'M BAFFLED BY HOW A PERSON CAN COME IN AND IF YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT IN MAYBERRY AND WE'RE NOT IN HOOTERVILLE BUT SOME PERSON CAN COME IN AND MAKE A SUGGESTION TO BUILD A GOLF, A GATED COMMUNITY AND THEN WE GET EXCITED BECAUSE OF YOU DOLLARS A FEW DOLLARS THAT IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY IN AMERICA THE WHAT I AM ABOUT IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S ON THE TABLE.
I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S AND PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT ALONE IF THAT WAS SO I'M ASKING YOU TO IGNORE THAT AND MAKE A DECISION ON THAT ON THE MERITS MAKE A DECISION ON THE CRITERIA THAT THEY HAVE MET.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR LISTENING AND PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
THANK YOU, MR. BROWN PASTOR JACK, I THINK IT'S GODSEND. I CAN'T READ THE LAST NAME L.A.
IDEA SORRY. COME ON DOWN. HELLO, PASTOR.
IS IT LADSON? L.A. DIAZ, L.A.P.D. OKAY. THANK YOU.
I'M A BAD WRITER. I SOUGHT OUT THE NIGHT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BED LONG TIME YOU GOT TO SPEAK RIGHT BY THE MIC SO THEY CAN'T I AND LISTEN I'M A NATIVE OF SOUTH CAROLINA ST HELENA ISLAND BORN AND RAISED HERE BEEN HERE 91 YEARS I HAVE TO BE 5:00 IN THE MORNING GO TO PRAY ALONE I HEAR EVERYBODY THE NIGHT THAT I SPEAK NOBODY TALK ABOUT JESUS
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EVERYBODY SEEMED TO THINK THAT'S THIS IS OUR HOME. THIS IS OUR LAST PLACE PLACE AND EVERYBODY I'VE SEEN SEEMS TO BE IS AFTER ANOTHER DOLLAR PEOPLE ARE BEING BOUGHT FROM BEING CRUSHED. COULDN'T SING A SONG BUT LET ME SAY THIS NOW I'LL BE ON MY WAY HOME I KNOW I HAVE BEEN IN GUY THAT BOUGHT PURCHASED PINE ISLAND.HE MADE A STATEMENT THAT THE BLACK FOLKS ON SAINT HELENA IN HEBER NO PINE ISLAND DEAL UNTIL BOARDED THE LINE. I GRADUATED 53 AT PENN SCHOOL. OUR TEACHER USED TO TAKE US OVER THERE ON FIELD TRIP. WELL I'VE BEEN KNOWING ABOUT PINE ISLAND FROM A LITTLE BOY OR THE WE DON'T NEED THAT EVERYBODY ALL THE PEOPLE THAT MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES THAT COME EXCUSE ME AND THEY LOOK A PLACE TO DEVELOP THINGS THAT DON'T TAKE OUR CLOTHES FROM US. WE'RE NOT USED TO ALL THAT I REMEMBER HILTON HEAD I REMEMBER YOU COULD DRIVE OVER THERE SAY YEAH FULL IS IS IS RUN OVER PEOPLE THEY DON'T THE SPACE WINDOW AND THEY'RE WORKING ON BLUFFTON WE DON'T NEED IT DON'T SEND HELENA NOT GOING HAVE IT IT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED WELL BUT I'LL STOP AND THINK IT TAUGHT ME IN SCHOOL TO AND TO HIS WHOLE WELL YOU BETTER SIT DOWN AGAIN AND THINK YOUR MONEY IS GOING TO GET YOU ON AN ISLAND. OH I'M A BIG MAN SHORT BECAUSE I'M READY TO GO HOME THIS THE GENTLEMAN THAT BOUGHT AN ISLAND I DON'T THINK YOU TOO SMART LET ME FINISH WHAT I'M SAYING WHEN YOU GO TO THE CAR DEAL AND BUY A A CAR BRAND NEW THEY LET YOU TEST IT YOU GO AND PURCHASE A PIECE OF LAND OR SOME ACRES YOU AIN'T TEST NOTHING NO YOU AIN'T SEE YOU WILL TRY TO FIND OUT CAN BUILD ON IT YOU JUST THINK BECAUSE YOU GOT A CERTAIN OF MONEY YOU CAN JUST MOVE IN AND DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT IT WILL HAPPEN THEM DAYS AGO WE WAS BORN AND RAISED ON CHIN HILL AND IT IS STILL THINGS I TOLD SOMEBODY ABOUT IT BUT THE DAY I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS ONLY TEN WHITE FOUND ME ON ISLAND TEN? YES.
WHAT HAPPENED? THE BLACKS ON CERTAIN IN THERE START COMING IN AND WE MY FAULT ALL FOR THEM $50 $100 AND BACK THEN I GUESS THE BLACK FOLKS THOUGHT THAT WERE PUTTING THE MONEY SO THEY START SELLING THE LAND AND THAT'S HOW SOON AND GOT LIKE IT IS NOW HOW DID GET RICH FOR THEY'LL COME AND SWEET TALK YOU OUT A GUY CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY ON THE PHONE HE SAID YOUR NAME THAT I SAID YES IT'S ACTUALLY WE OWN SOME PROPERTY OF NATURAL I SAID DO DO YOU WANT TO SELL YOUR HOUSE. I SELL MOSTLY IF I SAID MY HOUSE I MUST BE GOING TO SLEEP WITH YOU TONIGHT. RIGHT. WELL I'M GOING TO FIND YOU MY AND YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT SO EAGER TO SELL I'M THAT ALL YOUR LOANS IN L.A. BEEN YEAH AND
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COME HERE PEOPLE WE SURVIVED AND I'M SPEAKING FOR BLACK FOLKS.THOSE BLACK FOLK SURVIVED ON SIN HILL HELENA ISLAND BECAUSE THE CULTURE WE COULD KILL RABBITS WHO? WELL GET A THAT IN A BATTLE AND GO IN THE RIVER ALL THE FISH YOU WANT WHICH THE STATE DOESN'T PUT A LIMIT ON NOW YOU CAN'T CATCH BUT SO MUCH AND THE FISH GOT TO BE A CIRCUMCISED I TOLD MY DAD I DON'T LIKE TO SAY IT BUT I'M I'M HAPPY TO SAY I READ UP ON THE MAN COULDN'T READ AND HE COULDN'T WRITE HIS WAY BUT HE RAISED SEVEN US AND HE NEVER WORKED FOR NOBODY HE HE WORKED HIS KIDS HE WAS A HUNTER HE HEARD ME ORDER AND POOL AND SKIN THEM AND SELL THE HIGH AND HOW HE RAISED SEVEN DOES HE RAISE HIS OWN PIG? I NEVER WERE I NEVER SEE A HOME WITH DAY IN MY LIFE TILL I TURN 18 YEARS OLD AND LEAVE HOME AND WITH THE TILE FLORIDA AND COULDN'T FIND NO WORK AND I GOT A HOME LONG AS I SENT MY DADDY HOUSE I GOT HUNGRY HE FED US AND HE RAISED US. I WANT TO SAY I'M STANDING 100% THE CPO AND SO THAT BUT BUILDING OF COACH IT GOT TO THE GOLF GOLF COURSE I PULLED DOWN OH WHAT NO GOLF COURSE IT GOT MORE THAN IT GOT GOT GOLF YOU WRITE OFFS AND PUT IT PUT A ALL YOU WANT TO HIT A BALL IF YOU BUILD THIS PLACE ALL PINE ISLAND HERE BUT ONE WAY TO GET THERE AND THAT'S DOWN THE LINE TOMORROW WHAT YOU KNEW HOW THE TRAFFIC BE WHAT YOU WHAT NEED BE DONE AND BEAUFORT GOT IT NEED TO SEE A HIGHWAY GET YOU FROM HERE TO 95 A GET YOU OF THIS OUT BEAUFORT BECAUSE IF IT EVER STORM HAVE IT ON THERE I NEVER HEARD COME Y'ALL GOT TO BEAUFORT I NEVER LEFT I MOVED BACK 44 YEARS AGO I NEVER LEFT FOR A GAME.
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY WE ARE LIVE? I WAS SIX YEARS OLD 1940 STOLE WHEN IT HIT BEAUFORT COUNTRY AND MY DAD PUT ME AND MY SISTER A BARREL WITH THE TIDE WAS COMING AND SAID IF THE TIDE CAME UP WE WOULD HAVE FLOAT LIKE MOSES DID LIKE IT DID PUT HIM IN A LITTLE BALL AND THROW THEM CAUGHT AND RAISED IT SO WHAT I'M SAYING THEN HELENA ISLAND DON'T NEED THE ELEMENT DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE ON PINE ISLAND BUT DEACON HE'D BEEN THERE AND GOING ABOUT 25 YEARS YOU CAN WATCH AND THEN WATCH WORK ON THAT ISLAND AND TOOK CARE OF PEOPLE OVER THERE THOSE YANKEES AND THE PEOPLE SOLD THE PROPERTY THEY THE PLACE THAT YOU COULD GO I HEARD SOMEBODY MENTIONED IN NIGHT PEOPLE COME FROM ALL UPSTATE AND DURING SUMMERTIME AND GO DAVID SMITH AND STUFF AND FOLK GO MY DAD USED TO GO OVER THERE AND COOK FOR AND CARRY THE MOONSHINE THEY LIKE LIQUOR AND AND AND COW AND THEY KILLED THE COW AND HUKUM AND FED THEM MOONSHINE. OH GOD.
OH TOO YOUNG MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT BUT THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW THEY AND THEY GOT TO LOVE GOOD IT LIFTED I TOLD THE GUY YESTERDAY AND I SAID I GREW UP ON THIS ISLAND THE WHITE BOYS, THE FAMILY THEY HAVE ME COME TO MY AND HERE I GO TO THEIR HOUSE AND THAT'S HOW WE WERE RAISED ON AN ILLINOIS ISLAND IT WOULDN'T NO SUCH THING IS NO BLACK AND WHITE.
I DIDN'T EXPERIENCE TILL I GOT THE FLOYD IN 1956 OWNS AND HELD AN ISLAND PEOPLE HAVE RESPECT
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FOR ONE ANOTHER AND WE NEED THAT RESPECT BACK EVERYBODY JOB OF MONEY LET ME SIT DOWN ON THIS DESERT IS A RICH MAN AND HE HAD PLENTY OF MONEY AND HE COULD DRESS BETTER THAN ME BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE JESUS AND HE DIED. YOU KNOW WHERE HE WENT HE WENT TO AND HE SENT A MESSAGE BACK TO HIS BROTHERS. NO, COME HERE.HE SAID WHY NOT TO COME? HE SAID IT WAS DON'T DIE HERE IN THE FIRE.
DON'T GO OUT. WELL SOME OF YOU ARE RICH FOR I YOU DID BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT MILLIONS OR BILLIONS YOU CAN JUST STEP UP AND BUY A PIECE OF LAND AND WE GOT TO LIVE WITH IT. NO BUILDING ON AN ISLAND. GOOD NIGHT.
THANK PASTOR LANCE AND CARRIE MAJOR, WE WE HAVE DONE 13 WE HAVE TO GO 65.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO TRY TO BE SUCCINCT BUT GO AHEAD THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNCIL THANK ME TO COME AND TO SPEAK WE KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING OUR REPRESENTATIVE THE REPRESENTATIVE THE PEOPLE WE SPEAK ABOUT PINE ISLAND EACH OF YOU TOOK AN OATH OF OFFICE AND YOU INDICATED THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE AND WE THE PEOPLE THE GULLAH PEOPLE OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND OH THEY HAVE SPOKEN. WE ASK YOU TO UPHOLD THE LAW, UPHOLD THE CPO, NO GATES, NO GOLF COURSES. AND I SAW A LOT OF CARROTS BEING DANGLED BEFORE US THAT THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE MONEY FOR HEIRS PROPERTY HOME REPAIRS ,HOUSING AND BEFORE I SAW RECREATIONAL CENTER AND ALL OF THAT PLEASE ALL FIRM WILL NOT BE BOUGHT IT'S A IT'S THE LAW AND WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL STAND BY IT AND KNOW AND I HEARD A PRAYER THAT TALKED ABOUT WISDOM THAT THE WISDOM OF GOD WILL LEAD YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY THE PEOPLE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS.. MAJOR.
LET'S SEE I HAVE KENNETH DOE. IT SAYS KENNETH. HELLO BISHOP.
I'M TOLD IT'S OKAY. I PUT THAT DOWN. YOU'RE BISHOP MADAM CHAIR.
MADAM VICE CHAIR AND THE BOARD. UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I'M GOING TO BE THIS IS A MIRACLE TONIGHT I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF.
UH, THE CPO IS THE LAW BECAUSE THIS AREA IS A JEWEL AS IT IS, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE MADE A JEWEL. IT IS A JEWEL AND IT CAN ONLY BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY ACCOMMODATING EXCLUDE WE LOOK TO YOU TO USE YOUR POWER TO UPHOLD THE MORAL AND THE LEGALITY OF THE CPO. PLEASE RESPECT AND SUPPORT THE LEAD OF YOUR FELLOW BOARD MAN WHO REPRESENTS THE AREA COVERED BY THE CPO. UNFORTUNATELY THE THIS MATTER HAS CAUSED SOME SPLINTERING IN OUR PEOPLE WHO USED TO SPEAK DON'T SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER ANYMORE PLOT AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, MALIGN AND ASSASSINATE ONE ANOTHER'S CHARACTER BECAUSE . FOLK HAVE BEEN BOUGHT PLAIN SIMPLE I DIDN'T MIND YOUR 50 SOMETHING MINUTES SO YOU WON'T PUT UP WITH MY FEW STILL THE MAJORITY REMAINS AND UNBOSSED
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UNBOUGHT AND ON BOTH IN THE CPO AS YOU HAVE THIS IS OUR HOME AND OUR HAVEN AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL PROTECT IT AS YOUR OWN. IT IS THE MORALLY AND LEGALLY CORRECT PATH TO TAKE MICAH SIX AND EIGHT READS HE HATH SHOWED THE OLD MAN WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT DOES THE LORD REQUIRE OF THEE BUT TO DO JUSTLY AND TO LOVE MERCY AND TO WALK HUMBLY WITH MY GOD JUST KNOW NO BOWL OF SOUP IS WORTH OUR BIRTHRIGHT THANK YOU THANK YOU.BISHOP KEITH ELLIS CAN ELLIS PLEASE? AND AFTER KEITH WILL BE MARK FIRO HELLO MR. ELLIS AND BOARD CHAIRWOMAN EVERYBODY. HERE WE GO AGAIN.
HOPEFULLY IT'S THE LAST TIME I'M UP HERE AND DRESSED THE SAME THING BUT I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE LIONS HELD IN HARLEM. THAT'S MY HOME.
IT'S A LOT OF NEGOTIATING LIKE THE DEVELOPER GETTING GETTING THE OF THE DOUBT OVER THE LOCALS WE HAVE THAT THEY NEED SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY SHOULD BE MOVING THE LINES FOR THEM EVERY WEEK WE COME THEY OFFERING OFFERING MILLS WHY IS THAT A DEVELOPMENT HE MADE A BAD HE NO HE KNEW THE CPO WASN'T IN PLAY BUT THE ARROGANCE AND I THINK THE BIGGEST HE MADE WHEN HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY KNOWING THE CPO WAS IN PLACE WAS AH YOU KNOW HE'S COMING TO THE LAWS HOME ISLAND BUNCH OF UNEDUCATED GARLICKY CHEESE EATING WILL BE NO PUSHBACK WRONG NEWSFLASH I'M A BONE RAISE THEY ALL KNOW WE ALL WE ALL THOSE MOON RIVER PEOPLE ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT THE CONTAMINATION OF THE GOLF COURSES AND IT'S ALL IT'S EVERY WEEK IS HE'S GOT THEY GOT DIFFERENT OFFERS COMING UP AND IT'S LIKE WE SHOULD BE DOING OUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AND NOT TAKE THE FACT THAT ALL THE LOCALS THAT'S THAT'S OUR HOME WHERE ELSE ARE WE GOING TO GO? I'VE BEEN I'VE LIVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES TRAVELED THE WORLD I TAKE TWO INTERNATIONAL TRIPS EACH WHEN I WAS IN THE MILITARY YOU TALK TO ACCIDENT WELL YOU'RE FROM BAHAMAS AND NOW I'M FROM LITTLE TOWN GORLESTON OLD THOSE I MEAN THESE ARE YOU FROM A CARIBBEAN ISLAND THAT'S DIALECT. THAT'S JUST THAT'S THAT'S OUR LANGUAGE. SO TRYING TO TAKE OUR LANGUAGE AND OUR HOME WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO? LIKE THEY SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO, THEY ARE MAKING NEW PROPERTIES THEN NEXT THING YOU KNOW WE ARE WE OFFICE IN HELENA ISLAND.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GO HE'LL BLUFFTON BASED MY RENT RENT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NOW THIS OUR LAND WE ARE FROM WE ALL FARMERS YOUR OUTDOORSMAN LIKE I SAID WE RIVERMAN BUT IT'S LIKE EVERY TIME YOU COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND I APPRECIATE WHAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR IN UPHOLD THE CPO BUT LIKE WE KEEP MOVING TO GO WHY WE KEEP MOVING THE GOALPOSTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE ONES THAT CAME HERE EVERYBODY PUSHING FOR THE CPO TO BE WE CHANGE FROM HERE TO THERE THAT'S THE INFERNAL NADO AND I GUARANTEE YOU THIS IS NOT THE FIRST PLACE THEY HAVE DONE IS THAT THIS WE JUST THE NEXT STOP ON THEIR TOUR THEN FROM HERE THEY GO TO THE NEXT BUT I'M HERE I'M GOING I'M GOING TO BE A PROBLEM ARE THEY COMING? I'LL BE HERE IS NOT I GOT YOU.
THEY ARE GOING UP AND DOWN THE COALS IN THIS PART HAVE BEEN THE LONGEST STOP THEY HAD SO FAR AND AT ALL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T PUT DID EXPECT TO LOOK AROUND THE ROOM AND THIS IS NOT A RACE THING IT'S NOT A BLACK THING OR WHITE THING LOOK AROUND THE ROOM IT'S NOT ABOUT RACE IS ABOUT COME I WANT THE UNIVERSITY OF COMMON SENSE AND YOU LOOK AROUND THE ROOM
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EVERYBODY'S IS BUT THE SAME THING IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOR SCALE YOU FROM OH THAT'S YOUR HOME I'VE BEEN THERE ALL MY LIFE. A LOT OF PEOPLE COME HERE THEY'VE BEEN HERE A YEAR TO THEY COME HERE THEY TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY READ A BOOK BOTH IN HELENA ISLAND. THEN THEY WANT TO GIVE ME A TOUR, HOLD OUT WORK.YOU CAN'T HOLD THEM STILL IN PUBLIC LIBRARIES THINKING THAT YOU KNOWS THE WHOLE ISLAND BETTER THAN I DO BECAUSE YOU DON'T AND IT'S GETTING TO A POINT I'M A LITTLE EMOTIONAL.
I'M TIRED. I'M TIRED OF TEN TIMES HERE WAITING FOR A YES AND IS STARTING TO GETTING LIKE A LOT OF BACKDOOR DEALS BEING MADE. I KNOW THAT I KNOW I KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM GO. I'M NOT IN POLITICS BUT I KNOW HAPPENED IN THESE BACK ROOMS. WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LUNCH TABLE? I KNOW THIS THING GO.
THAT'S WHY IT'S BEEN SO LONG. WE STILL HAVE SOMEBODY SLIDING A COUPLE OF HERE.
I CAN'T BE BOUGHT. I DON'T WANT I'VE NEVER BEEN A MILLIONAIRE BUT I'M CONTENT I NEVER MISSED A MEAL MY LIFE MY MY FAMILY WILL ALWAYS HATE ME BEFORE A MEAL BUT IT'S A LOT OF UNDERHANDED DEALS BEING WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL AT THE SAME POINT EVERY TWO WEEKS WE'VE BEEN THERE TWO WEEKS AGO I TOLD YOU ALL THEN I WILL BE BACK.
IS THIS ABOUT THE NEW HE WAS GETTING INTO? BUT HIS THING IS THE ARROGANCE, THE COCKINESS I'M TO FORCE IT DOWN YOUR VOTE FORCE THEN LET'S GO.
LET'S GO I MEAN WHEN WHEN IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH THE NIGHT I THE NIGHT WAS TO BE THE LAST NIGHT IS IT CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THE NIGHT LAST NIGHT SO I CAN KNOW HOW TO SCHEDULE MY MY WORK I'LL BE BACK BUT BUT IT'S A OF BACKDOOR DEALS BEING ME PEOPLE BEING BOUGHT AND HE'S GOING TO TRY NEXT THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE THAT PRINT UP ON THE BULLETIN BOARD IT WILL BE OH WE DO THIS THIS THIS THIS TIME BECAUSE THAT DIDN'T WORK THIS TIME.
WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS OFFERING SOME I GOT SOME UNIQUE PONCHOS I DON'T NEED NONE FROM YOU AND THAT'S ALL I WANT THE CASTLE TO BE JUST IN THIS AND MAKING HIS DECISION AND PEOPLE STOP TAKING THEIR MOVES AND YOU AND BE INTELLIGENT ABOUT WHAT'S OUR NEED WHAT WE ALWAYS HAD.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, RIGHT? THAT'S OUR HOME. LIKE I SAY THIS MAKE OF INTELLIGENCE INTELLIGENT DECISION AND THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO DO IS BE CONSIDERATE. I KNOW WE HAVE MEN THAT'S COMPRISED OF IT BUT IT'S THE COMMON SENSE THING TO DO TO THINK ABOUT THE FOLKS THAT LIVE OVER THERE.
IT GOT KIDS AND GRANDKIDS AND ALL THIS THING ABOUT OH WE'LL DO THIS FOR YOU.
WE'LL DO THE WE WE DON'T NEED THAT WE DIDN'T ASK FOR THAT IS THAT'S BE THAT'S NEGOTIATING WHY WHY ARE YOU NEGOTIATING? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. MILLS 630 I HAVE ARCADE FIRE DAY AND JAMES SMALLS AND THERESA WHITE SO MURKY FIRE ROLLS FIRST THREE COMES SELF-DETERMINED OKAY HE FIRST I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN AND I WANT TO THANK YOUR GLOVER BECAUSE THEY REALIZED THAT THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THAT NEED TO BE HAD AMONG NEIGHBORS. Y'ALL NEED TO HEAR HOW WE FELT .
VISUALIZE WHO WAS SPEAKING TO YOU. THAT'S WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THIS MEETING BE HELD IN ONLY PLACE IN THE COUNTY THAT COULD 600 PEOPLE SOUTH OF THE BROAD UNDERSTAND AND I TRULY RESPECT YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE LAST MINUTE CHANGE.
HOWEVER THIS WAS AN UNNECESSARY CHANGE. WE'VE BEEN CONSTANTLY ASKING FOR RESPECT EVERY TIME WE'VE COME BEFORE YOU ALWAYS BEEN WE WANT YOU TO RESPECT OUR OPINION WE WANT YOU TO HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY. WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO CONSTITUENTS AND AS MORE ABIDING CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT FREE COUNTY WE DIDN'T ASK FOR SHORTCUTS. WE DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY HANDOUTS.
WE WANTED TO DETERMINE FOR OURSELVES HOW TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY THAT'S IT.
NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. IF SOMEONE MOVES INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND WANTS TO HELP US THEN THEY WILL HELP US WITHOUT STRINGS. THAT'S WHAT NEIGHBORS DO.
NEIGHBORS SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE . NEIGHBORS LOOK OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER. NEIGHBORS LISTEN TO EACH OTHER. WE CONSTANTLY SAID THAT WE
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DON'T NEED ANOTHER GOLF COURSE. WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THERE'S ANYTHING EVIL ABOUT GOLF COURSES BUT WE DON'T WANT IT AND THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH. WE HAVE SHOWN THAT THE CPO HAS IN FACT KEPT US SAFE BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT DEEP MATTER OF FACT THEY USE ONE OF OUR GRAPHICS TO SHOW HOW THE REST OF YOU COUNTY'S BEEN FLOODED BY GOLF COURSES.ALL WE'RE SAYING IS WE DON'T WORN IT. WE DON'T NEED IT WE DON'T WANT YOUR MONEY JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT A GOLF COURSE IF YOU WANT US IF YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR EXCUSE ME. I APOLOGIZE, MADAM CHAIR.
I A DEEP BREATH AND I REMEMBER THE THINGS I WAS TAUGHT ALL YOUR PARTS RULE THE HOMES, YOUR GLOBAL WATER MAN THOSE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO GOT ME INVOLVED IN MY COMMUNITY.
THEY TOLD ME I HAD A RESPONSIBILITY TO TRUTH TO POWER AND TO EDUCATE MYSELF AND PUSH FORWARD ABOUT WHAT IS RIGHT. WHEN THE CPO FIRST BECAME A THING IT WAS BECAUSE FIVE LINES WERE ABOUT TO COME ACROSS IN AND WE DID NOT WANT TO AND WE SAID NO. SO WE CAME UP WITH A AVENUE THAT WORKED FOR BOTH THE COUNTY AND FOR THE PEOPLE SO THAT WE COULD SAY NO THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING OR RESPECT BUT THE ABILITY TO SAY NO YOU ARE MY NEIGHBOR ASKING YOU TO RESPECT ME JUST LIKE I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IF YOU'VE COME TO ME AND SAID YOU DIDN'T LIKE SOMETHING I'D DONE DID I TO YOU? WE HAD A CONVERSATION AND THE TIME YOU WALKED AWAY FROM THERE WE BOTH HAD AN UNDERSTANDING. I'M ASKING YOU TO DO THE SAME THING RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE SAYING NO WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU MIKEY. I HAVE DEAR JAMES SMALLS THEN THERESA WHITE JAMES SMALL AND THEN THERESA WHITE AND THEN ELAINE SCOTT. HELLO.
HELLO. OF COURSE GIVING THANKS TO THE COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I HEARD EVERYTHING ELSE IN HERE TODAY BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT IS FROM MY HEART OH WHAT IS IT UP UNTIL NOW AND YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TWO DAYS OR THREE DAYS OR A COUPLE OF YEARS. I'M TALKING ABOUT 78 YEARS OF MY LIFE BUT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY I WANT TO SAY TO YOU AND YOU AND YOU LOVE IT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT A MAN CAN HAVE OR FAMILY AND FOR ITSELF. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO SAINT HELENA ISLAND I SUPPORT IT.
WHY BECAUSE I WAS RAISED UP IN A PLACE CALLED EDDINGS HOME. EDDINGS POINT IS NEXT TO THE MORGAN CREEK GUARD. RIGHT NOW WHEN I GO OVER WITH MY SON LIVES ON THE PROPERTY THERE THAT MY GREAT GRAND DADDY LEFT FOR US AND I SAY BOARD FORT LEFT FOR US HE LIVES AND I OVER THERE AND I GO IN THE BACKYARD AND STAND AND LOOK AT PINE ISLAND AND ALL THE PLACES WE USED TO GO FISHING THE PLACES THAT WE USED TO GO AND PICK OYSTERS AND I CAN LOOK AT FROM THAT AREA I CAN LOOK AT COFFIN 4.0 GO WHASSUP WANTING ALL THESE DIFFERENT AREAS SOME CALL IT DATA ALL OF THEN I CAN LOOK IN THE RIVER AND COME BACK ON THE OTHER SIDE AND I CAN SEE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF DELIRIUM. I CAN SEE THESE PEOPLE I CAN GET ON THE BOARD AT NIGHT AND I CAN GO DOWN THE RIVER AND KNOW MY WAY BECAUSE I WAS RAISED UP AMMONIA WHEN MOM AND DAD USED
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TO GO TO WORK IN THE MORNING WE DIDN'T HAVE A SWIMMING POOL. WHAT WE HAD WOULD EQUIP THE RIVERS IF WE WENT IN THERE SWIM FISH CRAB MADE A LIVING AND IT'S A LOVE WE HAVE FOR IT IF WE ALL THAT UP AND MY KIDS I GOT SOME BOYS NOT LIVING HERE AND I'VE GOT SOME LIVING NOW AND THEY DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME HOME WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL THEM OR WE GIVE IT UP BECAUSE TAX WENT TO HIGH OH IT IS IT THEY ARE NO NORMAL YOU BETTER FIND SOMEPLACE ELSE TO GO NOW EVERYBODY IN THIS BUILDING YOU KNOW YOU LEAVE HERE YOU'RE GOING TO A PLACE THAT YOU CALL HOME AND YOU DARE BECAUSE DEATH WHERE YOU TO DO AND WHEN YOU GO HOME EXPECT TO FIND WHAT YOU LOVE TO HEAR WELL IF YOU GO HOME AND THINGS CHANGE THEN YOU WILL BE PRETTY WELL UPSET. WE KNOW THAT YOU KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING BUT IF YOU WANT RESPECT YOU RESPECT OUR HOMES RESPECT AREAS WHERE WE LIVE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW I'M ONE RECIPIENT WE WERE PROMISED WE COULD GET A SIDEWALK ON 31 MLK DRIVEWAYS, YOU KNOW SO SO YET WE WERE PROMISED THAT WE GOING TO HAVE WATER PRESSURE COMING DOWN. I LOST MY HOUSE BURNED DOWN BECAUSE IT HAD NO WATER.SO IF ALL THESE THINGS CAN GET IN THE BACK AND A GOLF COURT WILL COME FORTH SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE? YEAH, I HAD TO GET ANOTHER HOUSE ALL ON A CHECK THE WATER BUT THAT'S OKAY WELL, I THINK I COULD GET ANOTHER HOUSE. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT JUST GOT ENOUGH TO LIVE ON? OH, AFTER YOU GET IN THE HOUSE SOMEBODY WILL ZERO.
ARE WE ALL OF THEM UP THE ROAD NOW. WELL WHEN I GET OFF IN TWO OR 3:00 IN THERE AND IT WAS TRYING TO COME OVER HERE YOU WHAT TRAFFIC WAS LINED UP ON BEAUFORT BRIDGE? WELL WE PASSED WAL MART ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND GOING ON DOWN WELL I CALLED THE SCHOOL BUS WAS COMING AND THEY HAD BEEN WERE TO WITH GET ALL IT'S SO RIDICULOUS TO SOME PEOPLE IF YOU DON'T LIVE OVER THERE AND YOU CAN'T FEEL IT THIS BLOCK THE ROAD WHEN YOU GET READY TO GO BACK TO HILTON HEAD WE'RE OVER YOU HOME AND SEE HOW I FEEL. SENATOR BYRD, PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT WE BEG YOU HELP SUPPORT THE WHOLE THING. THANK YOU, TERESA WHITE. AND THEN IT'LL BE ELAINE SCOTT . TERESA HELLO, TERESA HELLO. MY NAME IS TERESA WHITE AND THE FOUNDER AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE PAN AFRICAN FAMILY AND FARMING A A LAND PRESERVATION NETWORK NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AS CELEBRATING TEN YEARS OF EXISTENCE HERE AND SAVING OVER $20 MILLION WORTH OF GOLF. USE YOUR OWN PROPERTY IN GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. I CAN SAFELY SAY THAT I AM THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS ROOM INVOLVED IN THE PINE ISLAND BELLAMY CONVERSATION WHO HAS ACTUALLY LIVED AND WORKED FOR HIM AND DRAWN OUT A CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT THAT WAS DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY THE US SUPREME COURT IN THE NINETIES. AS A RESULT OF THAT I BRING A PERSPECTIVE THIS CONVERSATION THAT A LOT PEOPLE HAVE OVERLOOKED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT NONE OF OUR LAWS ARE WRITTEN IN STONE THEY CAN ALL BE CHANGED JUST LIKE THAT CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WAS DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THE LAWSUIT THAT MR. PROFESSIONAL HAS FILED IN STATE COURT IN FEDERAL COURT CAN RESULT IN A CPO BEING FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND COMPLETELY DISMANTLED IF COUNTY COUNCIL DOES NOT ACT TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING YOU CAN DO THAT BY REACHING A COMPROMISE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO
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COMPROMISE AND THAT IS TO ALLOW THE CPO TO STAY IN EXISTENCE AND JUST TAKE AN ISLAND IN ST HELENS THE BILL OUT OF I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT BUT THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY TO RESOLVE WHOLE ISSUE WITHOUT CAUSING PEOPLE TO LOSE ALL THE PROTECTIONS CPO THAT AREN'T REALLY EXISTS. I KNOW THAT THE CPO HAS FUNCTIONED AS A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD FOR THE OF COMMUNITY AND RESULT IN A LAND LOSS ESPECIALLY WATERFRONT PROPERTY THAT IS NOW OWNED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GOING TO GEEKIE IS A MAJOR SOURCE OF ANIMOSITY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THE SAME ACCESS TO WATER THAT THEY HAD WHEN IT WAS ON BACK.ALL THE PEOPLE AND I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS IS A GOOD ONE PROBABLY THE MOST GENEROUS ONE EVER MADE FOR ANY PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL BUTTE COUNTY IN ADDITION TO THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNTY COUNCIL TO CORRECT A MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE BACK IN 1999 WHEN THE CPO WAS BEING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AT THE TIME TOLD YOU THAT NOT JUST THE COUNCIL BUT ALL COUNTY COUNCIL THAT THE CPO AS IT WAS THE AND CONFIGURATOR AND STILL EXIST TODAY OVERREACHED INCLUDING THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF LAND IN ON THE ISLAND AND ALL THE NEW BROWNS THEY HAD NOTHING WITH THE DAILY CULTURE OF GULLAH PEOPLE AND ALAN IS SAYING ON THE BILL OR AMONG THOSE PROPERTIES EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A BRIEF OR BRIEF TIME GOLF COMMUNITY THERE THAT MOVED ON BECAUSE THEY FOUND IT SO I WAS SO SANDY THAT THEY COULD NOT GROW FOOD IT BUT FOR MORE THAN HUNDRED AND 50 CONSECUTIVE YEARS IT HAS BEEN USED AS A RECREATIONAL FACILITY THAT PROVIDED FOR HUNTING AND LODGING AND THAT HISTORIC USE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH WHAT BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE CALLING OVER CALLING GULLAH DAILY LAND USE SO TO ENSURE THAT CONCERN PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT THIS OPENING THE DOOR FOR A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE BEHIND THIS IF THIS TRIBUNAL IS EXEMPT FROM THE CPO IS WHAT IN YOUR POWER TO INSTITUTE A FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM ON CONSTRUCTION FOR SUBDIVISIONS ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENS AND DURING THAT PROCESS I THINK THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD REVIEW THEIR LAND USE PLANS FOR SAINT HELENA ISLAND THAT DON'T PUNISH WHO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE FAMILY COUNCIL HOUSE THREE ACRES PER HOUSE IS TOO MUCH AND UNFAIR TO PEOPLE WHO HAD SMALL PLOTS OF LAND WON'T BE ABLE TO SUBDIVIDE IT OR THEIR RELATIVES AND THAT NEEDS TO BE A CONSIST USE OF A COURT SYSTEM RURAL LAND PLANNING FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT MAKES NO SENSE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A HOUSE ON A QUARTER ACRE LAND UP IN BIG ESTATES AREA BUT TO HAVE THREE ACRES ON SAINT HELENA DO THE SAME THING SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ELAINE SCOTT AND JUSTICE AND AFTER ELAINE WILL BE FULLY ELAINE GO AHEAD I'D TO GREET YOU ALL WARMLY. WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND I FEEL A LOT OF CLOSENESS TO YOU. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE FRIENDS.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GIVE TO US CITIZENS THE COUNTY SOME 30 YEARS AGO WHEN SOUTH CAROLINA PASSED A LAW COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING SAINT HELENA ISLAND STEPPED UP WE KNEW WITHOUT OUR INPUT OUR FUTURE COULD NOT BE DETERMINED .
BEAUFORT COUNTY BEGAN BY INVITING CONSULTANTS FROM ALL OVER AMERICA TO HELP US IN OUR SELF-DETERMINATION FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS. I REPRESENTED HELENA ISLAND AS A MEMBER OF THE EQUALITY GROWTH COMMITTEE. OUR MOTTO WAS GET A GRIP THE
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FUTURE WE ATTENDED EVERY MEETING AND MET MANY TIMES IN BRAINSTORMING CHARRETTE WHERE MAPS WERE LAID ON TABLES AND WE DREW OUT THE COURSE OF OUR FUTURE THROUGH AN INTENSE PROCESS. CITIZENS WROTE THE FIRST AND THEN THE SECOND BEAUFORT COUNTY COPY OF PLAN SAINT HELENA ISLANDERS WORKED WITH THE CONSULTANTS.WE DROVE THEM ALL OVER THE ISLAND SO THAT THEY COULD SEE AND UNDERSTAND SENSE OF PLACE.
OUR COMMITMENT TO OPEN AGRICULTURE, FISHING AND TRADITIONAL LIVING PATTERNS THAT'S HOW THE FAMILY COMPOUND CAME ABOUT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE 30 YEARS AGO, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR PLANS DID NOT JUST APPEAR THEY WERE DEVELOPED BY US FOR US AND SELF DETERMINATION PASSION WAS OUR GUIDING LIGHT. TODAY WE FACE AN IMPORTANT DECISION WE ASK OUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO FOLLOW THE LAW. THERE ARE NO PROVISIONS FOR ZONING CHANGES EITHER DOWN ZONING REZONING OR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS IN THE GOALS OR POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE ARE YOUR ALLIES IN PRESERVING THE LAW.
THERE IS PROVISION ANYWHERE OR FOR THE ALTERATION OF OUR EXISTING ZONING.
FURTHERMORE, JUST BECAUSE INTERNAL GOPERS CHANGE THEIR LAWYERS OR THEIR LIST OF OFFERS NGS DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE WILL CHANGE THE CPO AND OUR ZONING THE CITIZENS OF SAINT HELENA ABSOLUTELY DENY ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES GATES GOLF COURSES AND, FRANCHISES. WE THANK COUNSEL FOR CONSISTENTLY BOLD VOTING TO UPHOLD THESE DETERMINATIONS BOTH IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IN THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY NO CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED. THEREFORE THE ONLY THREAT WE NOW FACE IS PINE ISLAND. WE DO NOT NEED WE DO NOT WANT FOR ANYTHING IS BEING OFFERED BY ANYONE ESPECIALLY IN A TRADE OFF FOR ABANDONING THE DESTINY. WE DETERMINED FOR SAINT HELENA ISLAND. THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT LIVE ON SAINT OR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE TOO YOUNG TO VOTE OR PAY TAXES THEN ARE LISTENING. THOSE OF YOU WHO DO LIVE ON SAINT HELENA I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE PLANNING PROCESS WAS OPEN TO EVERYONE IT.
THE EXTRAORDINARY CITIZENS OF SAINT HELENA WHO ATTENDED EVERY MEETING EVERY CHARETTE AND WHO DETERMINED OUR PROTECTIONS. AND THOSE OF YOU WHO DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR INPUT EITHER YOU DIDN'T CARE OR YOU DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME TO CONSIDER THE FUTURE OF GROWTH IN OUR COUNTY AND IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WHERE I SITTING IN YOUR SEAT I WOULD APPLAUD THE INCREASE VISION THE LEADERSHIP, THE INTELLIGENCE AND THE CALIBER OF CITIZENS ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND. I WOULD BE GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE. I WOULD SHOW RESPECT. I WOULD THANK THEM FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION IN OUR AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND GOVERNMENTAL. I WOULD ADMIRE THEIR SELF-DETERMINATION AND RESPECT THEM FOR PARTICIPATING IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
I WOULD BE GRATEFUL THEY FOLLOW THE LAW. SELF-DETERMINATION.
WE ARE SAINT HELENA ISLAND. THANK YOU. FELICE LAMARCA AND MARGIE
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BRIGHT MATHEWS AND LARRY MATUTE. THERE WE GO NEXT THREE.THANK YOU. I KNOW WE SAID LONG NIGHT. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COME UP HERE AND TALKED ABOUT RESPECT. WHAT ABOUT MR. PIANO'S RESPECTING HIM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID SOME PRETTY UGLY ABOUT YOU GUYS. I TRULY BELIEVE THIS SITUATION THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY BACKROOM DEALS. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN TRANSPARENT AND OUT IN THE OPEN AND IT WAS MR. TRUMP PIANO THAT'S MADE SURE EVERYBODY HAD ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND NOT WHICH IS RUNNING RAMPANT. THIS PLAN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOUND SOME MEMBERS AND MR. TROPEANO REDEFINED WHAT DEVELOPMENT IN BEAUFORT COUNTY CAN LOOK LIKE. THIS IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT. IT ISN'T ABOUT DISRESPECTING THE GOAL OF 80 PEOPLE IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY AND OPPORTUNITY AND I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO BE EMOTIONAL AND CAST VOTES EMOTIONALLY.
BUT WHAT'S BEST FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IS BEST FOR THE GULLAH EAT YOU PEOPLE. I REMEMBER BEING IN THAT FIVE HOUR MEETING ON HILTON HEAD TWO WEEKS AGO AND A YOUNG GIRL A CHEAP WOMAN STOOD UP. IS A BUSINESS OWNER ON HILTON HEAD AND SHE THE TOWN COUNCIL TO NOT DO SOMETHING BECAUSE SHE OWNED LAND IN WARD ONE AND SHE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT . NOW YOU TALK ABOUT HILTON HEAD LIKE IT'S A DIRTY WORD. AND HILTON SUPPORTS THIS COUNTY WITH THEIR TAXES AND WE GET TO DO OF THINGS BECAUSE OF THAT. IF STAFF FOUND THE OVERRIDE SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT HILTON HEAD HAS DONE FOR THE GULF. GET YOU PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK WE'VE DESTROYED ON THE ISLAND. IT WAS THE USE THAT WANTED TO SELL THEIR LAND.
IT WASN'T THE DEVELOPERS THAT ALWAYS WENT IN AND SNATCHED IT UP.
NOW THERE'S ALWAYS PROBLEMS WITH HEIRS PROPERTY BUT IT'S NOT A 100% SLAM DUNK.
THE CPO WILL ONE DAY FAIL AND I HOPE NOT. I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE THAT EITHER. BUT THE YOUTH ARE TO COME AFTER THEIR DAD AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT SO YOU GUYS CAN HELP DIRECT THAT CHANGE AND SUPPORT.
ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT'S BEEN IN FRONT YOU IN YEARS. YEAH.
KNOW THAT WAS RESPECT. THANK YOU. PROTECT SAINT HELENA.
THIS PLAN WILL BE A MODEL FOR THE ENTIRE STATE. IT WILL PROTECT THE THE ENVIRONMENT, THE WATERWAYS. AND IF YOU PROTECT THE LAND YOU PROTECT THE PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
MARGIE BRYANT MATTHEWS. EVENING, REPRESENTATIVE. HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS REAL QUICK BECAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN AT IT FOR A LONG TIME I THOUGHT WE USUALLY HAVE LONG HEARINGS IN COLUMBIA. THIS REALLY BEATS IT. WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED TO THE SENATE IN 2015 I HAD VERY BIG SHOES TO FILL. THE ELECTION IN 2015 WAS A SPECIAL ELECTION. THE REASON FOR THE SPECIAL ELECTION WAS THAT THIS DISTRICT WAS REPRESENTED BY SENATOR CLEMENTA PINCKNEY WHOSE LIFE WAS TAKEN IN THE TRAGEDY AT MOTHER EMANUEL CHURCH IN CHARLESTON. SENATOR PINCKNEY CONSIDERED
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HIMSELF A NATIVE OF BEAUFORT AND JASPER. THEY DEAR TO HIM A MAN OF GOD AND A PUBLIC SERVANT. HE WAS PREACHING IN HIS CHURCH FROM THE EARLY AGE OF 13 AND WAS A PASTOR BY AGE 18. HE WAS ELECTED TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHEN HE WAS JUST 23 YEARS OLD. IN THE HOUSE FIRST THE YOUNGEST AMERICAN AMERICAN MAN TO BE ELECTED IN OUR STATE. IN THE YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THERE I'VE BEEN IN THE SENATE.I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE THOUGHT HIM. I OFTEN THINK ABOUT WHAT HE WOULD DO IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS BECAUSE HE ALWAYS WALK HUMBLY AND TREATED PEOPLE WITH KINDNESS AND RESPECT. WHICH DIRECTION IS GOD TRYING TO GET TO GO ON THIS ISSUE OR THAT ISSUE? WHAT IS THE BEST DECISION FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR CHILDREN EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT NOT MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY ALL OF THE TIME? WHEN I WAS ELECTED TO REPLACE SENATOR PINCKNEY, LITTLE DID I KNOW I WOULD BE ENDOWED WITH A LITTLE BIT OF COURAGE. OFTENTIMES I THINK HE'S GIVEN IT TO ME TO FACE CONFLICTS SUCH AS WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT. YOU SEE AS A SIX YEAR OLD CHILD IN MCCORDSVILLE IN WALTERBORO, I WORKED ALONGSIDE MY GRANDMOTHER PICKING COTTON AND CLEARLY REMEMBER MY FINGERS BEING FRUIT REMOVING THE COTTON FROM THE HOLE. THEN WHEN I REACHED THE AGE OF TEN WE CAUGHT THE FARM BUS AT 4:00 AT THE NEILL'S CROSSROADS DURING THE SUMMER TO TRAVEL TO EDISTO ISLAND JOHNS ISLAND AND OTHER AREAS TO PICK CUCUMBERS, TOMATOES, EGGPLANTS JUST SO ME AND MY SIBLINGS WOULD EARN ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY OUR SCHOOLS.
AS A TEEN I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER GETTING IN THE SAND ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH MY SISTER AS TRAVELED TO FRIPP ISLAND TO DELIVER MY FATHER'S PAYROLL CHECK FOR HIS WORKERS.
HE BUILT HOUSES ON FRIPP. HE TAUGHT US TO LOVE THE ISLAND .
HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MINORITY BUILDERS ON FRIPP ISLAND.
I REMEMBER MANY SPENDING MANY A DAYS BECAUSE I WAS TOO YOUNG TO BE AT THE CONSTRUCTION SITE ON HUNTING ISLAND. YOU SEE I'M NOT I'M HERE. I'VE BEEN HERE.
I LIVE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. THAT HERITAGE IS IN ME THAT I GOT BACK WHEN IT'S NOT JUST DRY LONG. SO IN ME AND IT WILL NEVER LEAVE ME.
LAND DOES NOT CREATE HERITAGE. EXPERIENCES DO IT'S WHAT'S IN YOU THE ABILITY TO KEEP YOUR HERITAGE THROUGH LAND OWNERSHIP REQUIRES RESOURCES AND A VISION FOR THE FUTURE.
IN OCTOBER OF 2023 I WAS BLESSED AND I THINK THIS ALSO CAME FROM THE COURAGE I RECEIVED SENATOR PINCKNEY. I WAS BLESSED AS BEING THE SECOND SOUTH CAROLINIAN TO WIN THE PROFILES IN COURAGE. THE JOHN F KENNEDY PROFILES IN COURAGE.
THE LAST ONE WAS GOVERNOR DAVID BEASLEY. COURAGE REQUIRES DOING THE RIGHT THING REGARDLESS OF PRESSURE FROM OUTSIDE FOES, ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ASKED TO MAKE DIFFICULT CHOICES. WHEN THOSE TIMES COME TRY TO BLOCK OUT THE NOISE AND FOCUS ON WHAT I WAS ELECTED TO DO. WHAT DID I HOLD MY HAND UP FOR AND WHAT DID I PLACE MY OTHER HAND ON THE BIBLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING? ASK MYSELF MANY TIMES I'M MAKING PROGRESS PROGRESS ON THE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THAT I SAID THAT I COMMIT TO TACKLING.
IN OTHER WORDS, AS WE SIT HERE IN THIS LATE NIGHT SHOULD OUR ACTIONS BE TRUE OUR WORDS OF OUR OATH WHEN WE TELL WE SUPPORT SUSTAINABLE GROWTH THAT WE SUPPORT WHEN IT CAME IN FRONT OF US FOR A VOTE AS WE ALL HAVE. THE COUNTY HAS STATED THAT IT WILL AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN AN OPPORTUNITY ARISES THAT WILL INVEST MILLIONS OF PRIVATE DOLLARS AND SUPPORT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
DID YOU VOTE ON IT? DID YOU VOTE FOR. THE ISSUE OF HEIRS PROPERTY WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO SENATOR PINCKNEY. WE WANT TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE
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TO FAMILIES WHO ARE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR VALUABLE FAMILY PROPERTY AND WE RECOGNIZE THIS IS AN ISSUE IN EVERY DISTRICT AND BEAUFORT NOT ONLY ON SAINT HELENA WHEN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS PROPOSED WILL PROVIDE GUARANTEED PRIVATE FUNDING AND SUPPORT TO HELP LOCAL FAMILIES WITH THEIR HEIRS PROPERTY. WELL, WE SUPPORT IT.WE NEED TO SUPPORT IT. AND WHEN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OFFERS MILLIONS IN HOME REPAIR FUNDS FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES AT NO COST TO THE TAXPAYER.
ISN'T THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO SUPPORT? WE WANT TO CREATE JOBS PROMOTE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT, PROTECT OUR SHRIMPERS REDUCE RUNOFF AND IMPACTS AND MINIMIZE SEPTIC TANKS. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO CAST YOUR ONE VOTE THAT YOU PLACE YOUR HAND ON THE BIBLE AND AGREED AND YOU MADE AN OATH TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY WOULD THAT HELP ALL OF THESE THINGS I JUST LISTED? ARE YOU GOING TO SAY NO SAYING ? NO DOES NOT BENEFIT ANYONE. ALL THAT SAYING NO WILL DO IS GLORIFY A SET OF ZONING RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE NOT ANY OF OUR ISSUES OR PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE AS A COMMUNITY. IN FACT THE CPO ACTUALLY MAKES THE PROBLEMS WORSE.
IN MY FIRST YEAR IN THE SENATE WE PASSED THE COMMITTEE PINCKNEY UNIFORM PARTITION OF HEIRS PROPERTY ACT AND HONOR OF SENATOR PINCKNEY WHICH PROTECTS TWO FAMILIES THAT OWN HEIRS PROPERTY. AND I KNOW THAT THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS IMPORTANT TO HIM JUST AS IT IS TO EACH OF YOU. WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON BOTH OF THESE ISSUES. EACH OF US KNOWS BEING AN ELECTED EFFECTIVE ELECTED OFFICIAL CALLS ON US TO BE PRACTICAL.
WE HAVE TO USE COMMON SENSE NOT GET DISTRACTED BY THE NOISE. ABOVE ALL ELSE WE'RE ASKED TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUENTS, GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROSPERITY.
IF WE KEEP THAT DUTY AT THE FOREFRONT OF OUR MIND. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. HOW DO YOU TURN DOWN RESPONSIBLE SUSTAINABLE GROWTH? HOW DO YOU TURN DOWN 10 MILLION IN COMMUNITY BENEFITS? HOW DO TURN DOWN TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN LOCAL INVESTMENT, NEW JOBS AND SUPPORT FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT REALLY NEED IT? AND HOW DO YOU SAY NO TO NEW PROGRAMS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HEIRS PROPERTY? HOW DO YOU TURN DOWN JOBS WHEN YOU SEE THE PALMETTO BUS TAKING YOUR RESIDENTS TO WORK ON HILTON HEAD LEAVING IN THE HOUSE THAT WE LATER TERM AS LATCHKEY KIDS WITHOUT. HOW DO YOU DO THAT? HOW DO YOU ASK FOR MONEY A COMMUNITY CENTER AND CULTURAL ARTS CENTER? WHEN YOU REFUSE TO TO A PRIVATE PARTNER HOW DO YOU DO THAT AND LEAVE IT ON THE BACKS OF THE OTHER WORKS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY.
THAT'S NOT RIGHT. IT'S ALMOST POLITICAL MALPRACTISE.
HOW DO ASK THE COUNTY TO NOT FORGET ABOUT NORTH AND BEAUFORT WHEN YOU'RE UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVOCATE FOR PRIVATE AND PUBLIC BENEFITS FOR SAINT HELENA.
DALE LE PICO. BURTON SHELTON. BIGGEST STATES.
ALL OF THESE AREAS NEED HELP NOW. OR WOULD YOU YIELD TO THE THREATS AND THE LOUDEST VOICES IN THE ROOM? THE CHOICE IS.
SAINT HELENA IS A BEAUTIFUL ASSET. A BEAUFORT COUNTY.
IT IS A RESORT COMMUNITY. WHETHER YOU WANT TO LABEL IT AS SUCH OR NOT? IT'S BEAUTIFUL. ITS BEAUTY MAKES IT AN ASSET. IT TAKES RESOURCES TO PRESERVE THIS ACCESS. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN IT TAKES RESOURCES TO PRESERVE THIS ASSET WE CALL SAINT HELENA. SHOULDN'T WE IT AS SUCH? USE THIS RESOURCES SO OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WELL WE WANT TO RETURN TO THE ISLAND ONE DAY. IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING SINCE SAID MY NAME REGARDING THE CPO BLACK LAND OWNERSHIP IN SAINT HELENA HAS GONE DOWN BY 50% SINCE 1999. BLACK LAND OWNERSHIP IF THIS PLAN WOULD HELP THAT LAND OWNERSHIP THIS LAND WOULD HELP THE HEIRS PROPERTY PROBLEM THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD HELP JUST TO SAY NO NO NO THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. THAT'S BEING IRRESPONSIBLE TO
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THE PEOPLE OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND A LOT OF THEM WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THEY'VE BEEN HARASSED, THEY'VE BEEN THREATENED, THEY'VE BEEN BULLIED AND THEY ARE NOT HERE. BUT YOU KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON. WE'RE ASKED TO WE AS LEGISLATORS ARE TO PROTECT THE VULNERABLE AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES WORKING FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN.I KNOW EACH OF US WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY YES WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES.
I DID WHAT WAS RIGHT EVEN THOUGH FOLKS TRIED TO PRESS FOR ME TO SAY NO.
SAINT HELENA NEEDS YOU. A TRUE HISTORY OF A LIFE THRIVING HELENA NEEDS YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU FOR DOING AND I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE.
I CALLED YOU REPRESENTATIVE. YOU ARE A SENATOR SO I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE A SENATOR AND JUST GET OUT OF MY HEAD. LARRY OKAY, LARRY'S UP ALL RIGHT? AND I WILL ONLY TAKE LESS THAN 3 MINUTES. OKAY.
FIRST OF ALL, I JUST REALLY CLOSE TO THE MIC SO THEY CAN HEAR OKAY, I'LL TAKE LESS THAN 3 MINUTES. OF ALL I WANT TO SAY THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INAPPROPRIATE OUR PLANNING COMMISSION TO COME UP HERE AND START OUT WITH A NEGATIVE ASPECT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TOTALLY SAYING IT DIDN'T MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HE HAD NO BUSINESS SAYING ANY OF THAT. THAT WAS DEFINITELY EVEN THOUGH HE SAID IT HE DIDN'T SAY IT HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT LEAN ONE WAY HE ACTUALLY DID WHEN HE SAID THAT THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE. SECONDLY, I THINK THE CPO IS A GOOD THING FOR THE GULF HERITAGE. THEY DON'T KNOW ALL THE LAND. JUST THIS LADY JUST SAID JUST BEFORE ME THEY DIDN'T OWN THE LAND. THEY'RE OWNING LESS LAND.
WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS TRY TO HELP THEIR PEOPLE NOT HAVE TO GIVE UP LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT OR WHATEVER THEY WANT OR THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THE LAND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DICTATE EVERYTHING. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE AT LEAST YOU HEARD THAT ONE POINT. THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO AND HERE WOULD YOU SAYING WHY WERE YOU IN IT RIGHT THERE AT THE TOP? OKAY. RIGHT DOWN THERE. NATALIE MARIC AND THE NEXT AFTER THAT IS GERARD MADISON OH OH MY NAME IS NATALIE MARIC AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 48 YEARS YOUR TAKE AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WHEN I CAME HERE AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN IN A MEETING LIKE THIS SO I'M FEELING AWFUL LOT LIKE I'M IN OF A BULLSEYE BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. EVERY ONE OF US HAS GOT OUR OWN BULLSEYE, RIGHT? EVERY ONE OF US IS SEEN ENOUGH FOR SOMETHING.
WE ALL GOT A TARGET SUCH AS LIFE. SO I THINK DOGS I GREW UP HERE WE HILTON HEAD, BLUFFTON AND BEAUFORT SURROUNDING AREAS. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS GO A ,A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED I'M IN THE ECOSYSTEM AND THERE'S LIKE A SEQUENCE OF PREDATION YOU SEE IT, STALK IT, YOU CLOSE THE GAP, YOU GET A HOLD HILL YOU MEAN YOU EAT AND ANYTHING THAT'S A PREDATOR RUNS ALONG THE SAME SIDES BUT THAT WORKS ON ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF ASPECTS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ECOSYSTEM DEALING WITH THE GOLF COURSE IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PEOPLE BUT REALLY FOCUSING ON THE GOLF COURSE IS SUPPOSED TO BE INTERNALLY HOLDING ITS OWN WATER LIKE IN THE RETENTION PONDS AND RECYCLING. SO IT'S I'M GUESSING PULLING FROM OTHER WATER SOURCES. BUT MY QUESTION IS WITH GROWTH REGULATORS AND GROWTH INHIBITORS AND THINGS THAT ARE MEANT TO HYDRATE OR WEED KILLERS THINGS TO GET RID OF EVERYTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN IF THAT'S ALL GOING INTO A CENTRAL CONCENTRATION POND, HOW DO YOU SCRUB THE WATER SO YOU DON'T POISON YOUR WATER WHEN? YOU USE IT WHEN YOU GET RID OF THE GRASS LOOKING AT JUST ECOSYSTEMS HERE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ECOSYSTEM OF THE PEOPLE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ECOSYSTEM OF THE ECONOMY? THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OF ECOSYSTEMS AND ONE EATS ANOTHER ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE WORLD WORKS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY PUNY LITTLE FISH STANDING UP HERE IS GOING TO SAY PLEASE BE CAUTIOUS AND CAREFUL I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I BELIEVE YOU ALL WHEN YOU SAY IT I THINK IT'S INEVITABLE EVENTUALLY AND I THINK IT'S WAITING ON A COUPLE
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OF GENERATIONS TO GO AWAY AND A FEW YOUNGER GENERATIONS TO NOT BE INVESTED OR CARE AND IT MAY TAKE THAT LONG AND IT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN. I JUST WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR THE ANIMALS AND THE ECOSYSTEMS AND THE CULTURE. YEAH IT'S ALMOST GONE.EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN THE MUSEUM IS SOMETHING WE'RE MISSING THAT WE ERADICATED, WE COLONIZED, WE DESTROYED, WE CONSUMED. WE WENT FOR IT ALL THROUGH HISTORY. THIS IS ONE MORE THIS COUNTRY IS BASED OFF US VERSUS THEM.
THIS ECONOMY IS BASED OFF OF US VERSUS THEM THIS MEETING IS BASED OFF OF US VERSUS THEM.
SO MY QUESTION IS IS NOT THE WHOLE PICTURE NOT JUST THE US AND THE THEM WHAT'S LEFT AFTER THE DUST SETTLES? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ABOUT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
OKAY. NEXT IS JARED MADISON AND AFTER THAT CINDY CARR.
CINDY JAY CARR THANK YOU COUNSEL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO TODAY I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT VIRUSES AND VIRUSES ALWAYS HAVE BEEN INTRIGUING AND FRUSTRATING FOR ME NOW SEE I COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY A LOVING GOD WOULD CREATE THIS SEEMING ORGANISM WHOSE GOAL WAS TO JUST DESTROY RIGHT? IT'S LIKE A VIRUS SITTING SOMEWHERE IN A DOOR HANDLE JUST WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO COME ALONG LIKE YOU.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR GETTING TO THEIR BODY AND THEN START DESTROYING IT WAKES UP AND IT CHOOSES VIOLENCE. WHAT'S EVEN MORE INTERESTING YOU KNOW WHEN I THINK ABOUT THINGS HOW MUCH HUMANS DO VIRUSES BY THEIR BEHAVIOR NOW THE THING THAT'S AND BOTH INTRIGUING IS THAT IF THE VIRUS WERE TO REACH AN EQUILIBRIUM POINT IN THE BODY THEN THE BODY COULD STAY ALIVE. YOU WOULDN'T BE SICK AND THEN THE VIRUS COULD ALSO STAY ALIVE . IT WOULD ALMOST TO A HOMEOSTASIS POINT TO WHERE THE BODY WOULD INCORPORATE THE VIRUS AND IT WOULD LIVE A DIFFERENT LIFE.
NOW THE COOL THING ABOUT THIS AND THE GENIUS OF GOD IS THAT GUESS MADE OF VIRUSES OUR DNA STRUCTURE IS MAINLY MADE OF PRIMORDIAL VIRUSES SO ANCIENT VIRUSES NOW ARE SUPER COOL BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIGH LEVELS OF PLASTICITY NOW THAT MEANS THAT WHEN SOMETHING LIKE COVID WAS ON THE HORIZON THE VIRUS WHICH HAS TO MUTATE THAT PLASTICITY MEANS THAT IF THERE'S AN EXTERNAL STIMULUS ON THE HORIZON THAT SEEKS TO DESTROY THAT VIRUS IT WILL JUST ADAPT AND CHANGE SUPER FAST. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE ALL THESE STRANDS NOW AGAIN THE GENIUS GOD IS HE PUT THAT IN US ON PURPOSE SO IN OUR LIVES SPIRITUALLY, MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY WE MAY HAVE THINGS THAT LOOK TO SEEMINGLY DESTROY US AND THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO DESTROY US. AND THIS BRINGS UP ONE OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES IS EVEN THE DEVIL KNOWS NOT FOR WHO HE WORKS BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO THOSE SAME LEVELS OF PLASTICITY AND ADAPTABILITY TO MUTATE AND GET BETTER AND WE SEE THIS THROUGHOUT HISTORY ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE SOMEBODY MAYBE PERHAPS LIKE HITLER OR GERMANY IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT OR MAYBE SOMEONE IS REALLY, REALLY SICK AND THEN THEY START TAKING REALLY, REALLY GOOD CARE OF THEIR HEALTH SO UNBEKNOWNST AND INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS WHAT THEY REPRESENT IS A VIRUS. NOW THIS COMMUNITY IS A BODY THAT COMMUNITY'S GOAL NOW IS TO SEE THAT EXTERNAL STIMULI THE HORIZON AND ADAPT, COME TOGETHER, MUTATE AND GET BETTER TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S SUCH A HIGH STATE ENLIGHTENMENT OR THINGS LIKE THIS DON'T EVER HAPPEN NOW THE THING ABOUT YOUR LIFE AND EVEN NO MATTER WHAT SIDE YOU ARE ON WHEN IT COMES TO THIS IS THAT THE CHALLENGES YOUR LIFE ARE NEVER MEANT TO OVERCOME YOU.
YOU'RE MEANT TO OVERCOME YOUR CHALLENGES. THE DARKNESS WAS NEVER CREATED TO MAKE YOU FEEL OSTRACIZED OR CAST OUT. IT WAS MADE FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND AND SEE THAT YOU ARE THE LIGHT SO THIS EXPERIENCE AND LIKE EVERY OTHER EXPERIENCE THAT SEEMINGLY IS AN ATTACK ON INNOCENCE IS MEANT TO MAKE IN THIS COMMUNITY SHOW US STRENGTH BY STANDING TOGETHER AND REINVENTING OURSELVES LIKE ONE OF THOSE VIRUS.
DO THE NEXT TIME SOMETHING COMES LIKE THIS ON THE SURFACE WILL BE TOO STRONG FOR IT TO EVEN AFFECT US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CINDY GANG CAR.
LILI HARRIS IF LILI HARRIS COULD GO AHEAD AND LINE UP CINDY GAY CAR.
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN COUNCIL MEMBERS IT IS MY HONOR TO BE HERE TONIGHT. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT I AM NOT. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.
I'M NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, NOT A SENATOR. BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I AM I
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THIRD GENERATION SAINT HELENA ISLAND SHRIMPER I AM APPALLED THAT THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT USED A BROAD STROKE TO SAY THAT SHRIMPERS ARE APPROVING OF THIS PLAN.THAT IS SIMPLY NOT THE CASE. FAMILY HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 76 YEARS NOT SINCE 1990 SOMETHING 76 YEARS AGAIN I'M THIRD GENERATION. WE HAVE SEVEN INDEPENDENT FAMILIES THAT WORK OUT OF OUR DOCK NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THOSE SHRIMPERS SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT I PROMISE YOU I'VE BEEN IN PRIVATE MEETINGS WITH THEM. I'VE BEEN IN PRIVATE MEETINGS WITH THE OTHER AND I AM JUST SHOCKED THAT THOSE WORDS WOULD BE PUT ON THAT ONE SHRIMPER DOES NOT REPRESENT AN CULTURE OF SAINT HELENA. I SAINT HELENA WE ARE SAINT HELENA. YOU KNOW I HAVE I HAD A LETTER TO READ AND THEN I REALLY GOT KIND OF SIDETRACKED WHEN I SAW THAT I I GOT BLOWN UP. ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I LIVE IN DELANO SO HARVEY PALMER'S COMMENT I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 30 YEARS AS WELL.
MY ZIP CODE HAS NEVER BEEN ANYTHING EXCEPT 29920 FINE. PAT SAYS THAT THE IS IN SUPPORT OF IT. THAT IS NOT THE CASE I HAVE QUIET ON THIS MATTER FOR ALL OF THE YEARS THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED I'VE LISTENED TO EVERYONE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED. I HAD A PHONE CALL WITH A FRIEND YESTERDAY AND HE SAID YOU REALLY NEED TO COME AND SPEAK AND BOY AM I GLAD THAT I DID BECAUSE I AM NOT A SELLOUT I PROMISE YOU THAT ALL THOSE THINGS MENTIONED AT THAT PRESENTATION GOLF COURSES I DO BELIEVE THAT IF YOU CARVE OUT THAT OUT OF THE CPA FOR THAT TO BE ALLOWED THAT WILL FOREVER CHANGE THE FACE OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND. I THINK YOU JUST CAN'T IGNORE THAT FACT. LET'S LET CHARLESTON BE OUR EXAMPLE.
LET'S SET HILTON HEAD BE OUR EXAMPLE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING FROM THOSE AREAS TO HELENA BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE TRAFFIC YOU WANT A PRIVATE GOLF WITH A HIGH MEMBERSHIP? WE HAVE ONE IT'S CALLED SUCCESSION I'M SURE CAN GOOGLE IT.
YOU WANT OTHER GOLF COURSES? THERE ARE PLENTY ON HILTON HEAD .
YOU WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE ON THE WATERFRONT PROPERTY. GO BUILD ONE OF PHILLIP ISLAND.
WE HAVE ALL OF THAT. WHAT IS NOT ANYWHERE ELSE IS SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND IF YOU LET IT BE CHANGED IT WILL NOT EVER BE THE SAME MY DAD TELLS ME STORIES OF LIVING IN SAINT HELENA WHEN HIGHWAY 21 WAS A DIRT ROAD AND YES AND I'M GETTING EMOTIONAL AND I APOLOGIZE THAT ROAD IS NO LONGER A DIRT SOME CHANGE HAS TO HAPPEN INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY. WE HAVE THAT CHANGE HE TELLS ME STORIES OF WHEN HE WAS A CHILD AND HE WOULD RELEASE ALL OF THE CATTLE AND ALL OF THE HORSES THEY WOULD GO TO SCHOOL AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY WOULD GET THE CAUGHT AND THE OXEN AND THEY WOULD GO GATHER THE HORSES COWS AND THEY WOULD BRING THEM HOME THOSE DIRT ROADS OR DISAPPEAR IN THERE NO LONGER EXISTING. DON'T MAKE ME BE THE ONE TO TELL MY GRANDCHILD THAT THERE WAS A POINT IN TIME WHEN SANDERS HAD THOUSANDS OF ACRES WITH TOMATOES ON IT.
DEMPSEY SUPPLIED OUR COMMUNITY WITH FOOD DON'T MAKE US SAY THAT TO OUR GRANDCHILDREN.
YOU LET ONE GOLF COURSE THEN I PROMISE YOU YOU WILL EITHER BE TIED UP IN LITIGATION WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS WILL BE COMING. WE WILL LOSE IT.
IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY . AND LET ME REMIND YOU THAT NOT EVERYTHING THAT SPARKLES IS GOLD. SO LET'S NOT BE SKEWED BY THAT I PROBABLY HAVE GOTTEN OFF COURSE A LITTLE SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT SAINT HELENA IS MORE AS IT IS NOW THAN IT WOULD BE IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE WITH US.
THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT YOU CAN'T PUT IT BACK YOU CAN'T ERASE IT YOU CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY IT BE THERE FOREVER FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND YOU KNOW WHEN SAID I'M GOING BACK TO THE SHRIMPERS FOR A SECOND I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY OF US IN THIS ROOM THAT STILL SHRIMP AND CRAB AND OYSTER TO THIS DAY THAT DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PLAN. AND I'M NOT GOING TO LOOK BEHIND ME I CERTAINLY HOPE THIS MOTHER HANDS IN THE AIR TO SO I WILL GO TO MY ORIGINAL TASK WHICH IS TO READ A LETTER AND ALSO WANT TO TO CHARGE YOU WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE ASKING YOU TO DO OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
SO I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THE FINAL WORDS OF MY BROTHER. TIM GAY IS HIS NAME AGAIN.
WE ARE ARE GAY FISH COMPANY ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND. WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 76 YEARS.
THIS IS A LETTER FROM MY BROTHER. HE COULD NOT BE HERE.
MY NAME IS TIM GAY AND I'M THE MAJORITY OWNER OF GAY FISH COMPANY LOCATED AT 1948 SEA ISLAND PARKWAY ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND. MY FAMILY HAS LIVED HERE FOR 76
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YEARS. I AM WRITING TO EXPRESS MY STRONG TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CARVE OUT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR PINE ISLAND. THIS ISLAND IS NOT JUST WHERE WE LIVE. IT'S WHERE GENERATIONS OF OF FAMILIES HAVE MADE A LIVING THROUGH SHRIMPING, FISHING AND FARMING LOCAL FAMILIES HAVE WORKED WITH US US WE HAVE WORKED BESIDE CULTURE DOESN'T MATTER TO US WE ALL TOGETHER IN THIS INDUSTRY FAMILIES HAVE WORKED WITH US ALONGSIDE OF US FOR DECADES. WE PERSONALLY THIS YEAR ALONE HAVE INVESTED ALMOST $1.5 MILLION IN PART WITH HELP FROM A GRANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND A GRANT FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY TO PRESERVE AND MODERNIZE OUR BUSINESS.WHY DID WE DO THIS? WE COULD SELL IT AND PUT CONDOS ON.
WE'D BE RICH. HECK I COULD BUY A MEMBERSHIP TO THAT GOLF COURSE PROBABLY WE DID THIS BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE FUTURE OF SAINT ONE THAT PROTECTS ITS CULTURE, ECONOMY AND AS THE CEO OF A MAJOR DEFENSE CONTRACTING RECENTLY ACQUIRED BY A PRIVATE EQUITY FIRM, I'VE PLENTY OF COMPLEX AGREEMENTS. LET ME BE BLUNT I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE NUMBERS PRESENTED AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IF YOU PUT ENOUGH ATTORNEYS AND ACCOUNTANTS IN A ROOM THEY CAN MAKE NUMBERS SUPPORT WHATEVER ARGUMENT THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE. THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH.
THAT'S THE SPIN. AND I KNOW I LIVED IN THAT WORLD FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS BEFORE MOVING BACK HERE TO MY HOME. THE CULTURAL PROTECTION OVERLAY WAS CREATED 1999. I'LL SKIP THAT PART. WE'VE HEARD THAT THOUSAND TIMES. IF WE BREAK THE CPO NOW IT WILL SET A LEGAL PRECEDENT ONE THAT OPENS THE FLOODGATES FOR FUTURE CARVE OUTS. ONCE THAT DOORS OPEN ST HELENA WILL BE CONSUMED BY DEVELOPERS AND OUTSIDE INVESTORS IN PERPETUITY SO I ASK YOU HAS ANYTHING REALLY CHANGED? ARE WE LETTING FALSE PROMISES BLUR OUR JUDGMENT I URGE YOU TO REJECT THE PROPOSAL. STAND BY CPO AND KEEP ST HELENA'S FUTURE IN THE HANDS OF ITS PEOPLE NOT THE OUTSIDERS . THANK YOU.
SO I'D LIKE TO SAY WE HAVE 39 MORE TO SPEAK ON THIS IF. EVERYONE GOES ON THE WAY WE HAVE WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND THE NIGHT. SO I'M GOING SAY WHEN I READ YOUR NAME IF YOU COULD COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING IN A MINUTE AND A HALF OR IF YOU AGREE WITH LIKE FOR EXAMPLE SENATOR MATTHEWS WAS VERY SPECIFIC YOU COULD SAY I AGREE OR YES ON PINE ISLAND, NO ON PINE ISLAND.
THEN WE CAN MAKE IT THROUGH AND GET TO A VOTE. OTHERWISE WE'LL HIT A CERTAIN TIME AND A COUNCIL MEMBER CAN MAKE A MOTION TO END IT AND. WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO IT AGAIN SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME IF YOU'RE FOR THE PINEAPPLE A PROPOSAL YOU COULD SAY HEY I'M FOR IF YOU'RE AGAINST YOU CAN AGAINST IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR A MINUTE OR SO YOU GO FOR IT ALL RIGHT. LILY HARRIS AND IT'S EVEN CALLED THE OTHER ORDINANCE.
WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT ONE. LILY SHE'S GONE OKAY. KAREN ANDERSON ALL RIGHT.
GONE. MILLER I MILLER YEAH, RIGHT HERE.
HELLO INEZ AND EVENING COUNSEL . WHY IS IT THAT EVERY PLACE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY CAN BE PRESERVED EXCEPT FOR SAINT HELENA? I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU NUMBER OF TIMES IMAGINE SAINT HELENA THINK ABOUT IT THE FISH THE CRAB THAT TO COME TO EAT OYSTERS PLEASE KEEP THIS UP ALL THE CPO THE PEOPLE OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND LANDOWNERS AND RESIDENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHO IS BEHIND THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WHY IS THAT SUCH A BIG SECRET? WHY CAN'T WE KNOW THAT YOU THREATEN AND NO ONE HAS BEEN THREATENED? HEY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT, DANIELS REMARKED BEING SAID ABOUT PEOPLE THREATENING WE ABOVE THAT WE HAVE BEEN THREAT SIGNS HAVE BEEN PUT ON SOME OF THE PEOPLE'S CARS BUMPER STICKERS I THINK THAT'S LUDICROUS.
THEY TRIED TO INVOLVE ORANGE WITH THE TRESS FAMILY USING OUR SIGNS TO DO THAT.
WE'RE WELL ABOVE THAT. PLEASE DON'T DO THINGS LIKE THAT GLORIA POTTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER HER. THAT'S MENTOR.
SHE STARTED THE CPO ALONG WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE YOU TRUSTED HER ENOUGH THE NAME ONE OF THE
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BUILDINGS ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND AFTER HER PLEASE RESPECT WHAT SHE HAS DONE AND WE HAVE ONE OF OUR SHRIMPER MR. LEE MANS JOURNEY WHO WROTE A BOOK. MAKE SURE YOU GET A COPY OF THIS. THIS IS US SHRIMPER AND BOATER FOR MANY YEARS ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND. I THINK THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE THAT NIGHT SHOULD STAY IN THEIR WHERE THEY REPRESENT THEIR AREA. THEY DON'T SAINT HELENA I ALSO HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM EMORY CAMPBELL. I'LL BE VERY ON READING IT.HE'S BEEN FOLLOWING WITH DEEP INTEREST COUNTY COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON ST HELENA'S PROTECTION OVERLAY IN RELATION TO PINE ISLAND PROPOSED RESORT AND GOLF DEVELOPMENT.
HE WANT US TO KNOW THAT HE CONTINUES TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY THE CPO AND HEREBY SOLICIT YOUR UNYIELDING DECISION TO MAINTAIN THE CPO ST HELENA IS WITHOUT A DOUBT A SPECIAL PLACE IN OUR COUNTY. THE UNIQUE JEWEL HAS ATTRACTED MANY INTEREST IN THIS COUNTY.
IT HAS BEEN A HOME TO A GROUP OF GULLAH FAMILIES SINCE THEY GAINED THEIR FREEDOM FROM SLAVERY IN 1862 ONE YEAR BEFORE THE READING OF THE EMANCIPATE NATION PROCLAMATION THAT TOOK PLACE EVERY YEAR THAT TOOK PLACE ONE YEAR BEFORE THE READING AND EVERY YEAR THE JANUARY 1ST 1863. IN THAT CONNECTION THE ISLAND COMMUNITY SERVED THE ENTIRE NATION AND SUPPORT PARTS OF THE WORLD. LEARNING ABOUT OUR NATION SPARES PARTICULARLY PATH OF FORMERLY ENSLAVED PEOPLE. PLEASE UPHOLD CBO AND IF THEY ARE LOOKING FOR VOTES ON THANK YOU MISS MILLER I NEED TO MOVE ON THANK YOU TRISHELLE HARRIS YOU CAN TRISHELLE HARRIS PLEASE AGAIN LET'S TO A MINUTE AND A HALF OR YOU COULD SAY I'M FOR GO VICE-CHAIR THANK YOU COUNSEL I'M GOING TO TAKE MY 3 MINUTES BECAUSE I WAS FIFTH ON THE LIST THE SIGN UP YOU'RE ON 36 ON THE LIST I WAS ON THE FIRST PAGE SOMEHOW THE PAGES APPARENTLY GOT MIXED UP. THAT'S NOT THAT WASN'T MY POINT.
MY POINT WAS I DON'T WANT TO SIMPLY TO END INTEREST TIME I HAVE COMBINED AND REDUCED MY COMMENTS TO COVER BOTH THE PINE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE CPO EXCEPTION MY HUSBAND AND I ARE SIX YEAR RESIDENTS OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND.
WE ON A MARSH AND ENJOY THE SERENITY OF THE ISLAND AFFORDS US WE CRAB AND FISH FROM OUR DOCK AND OUR SMALL BOAT LIVING OFF THE LAND HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL ADVENTURE AND THAT WE ADVENTURE THAT WE NEVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE UNTIL WE FOUND SAINT. WE ALSO GET TO EXPERIENCE ALL THE WONDERFUL NATURE AND CULTURE OF OUR ISLAND. WE SUPPORT THE EXISTING CPO IN KEEPING THIS LAW UPHELD. IF YOU VOTE TO CARVE OUT PINE ISLAND FROM THE CPO YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW THAT YOU PUT INTO PLACE. WE SUPPORT, ADMIRE AND RESPECT THE GULLAH GEECHEE PEOPLE AND CULTURE. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT THE PEN CENTER THEN THERE IS NO WAY YOU WOULD CONSIDER AN EXCEPTION TO THE CPO WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADMIT IT OR NOT, AN EXCEPTION WILL SAINT HELENA ISLAND AT THE COUNTLESS MEETINGS ATTENDED WE KEPT HEARING RESPONSIBLE GROWTH .
EACH OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD CONCENTRATE ON YOUR DISTRICT AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS CONSTITUENTS NOT NOISE EDUCATE YOURSELF ON WHAT WE ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND AND WHAT OUR DISTRICT WANTS. WE WANT THE ISLAND ITS UNIQUE CULTURE, HERITAGE AND PROTECTED FROM GREEDY OVERZEALOUS PEOPLE PLEASE DO NOT MAKE AN AGREEMENT THE DEVELOPER THAT DOES NOT HAVE OUR BEST INTERESTS IN MIND THE CPO WAS CREATED FOR JUSTICE ALSO STRENGTHENED FOR JUST THIS VOTE NO TO CPO EXCEPTIONS EACH AND EVERY TIME AND NO NO YOU ANY PINE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THANK FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MRS. DONNA COLE THE DONEGAL JAMES TARPEY I'M GOING TO SCRATCH AND SCRATCH DONEGAL JAMES TARPEY NOW ALL RIGHT ROBERT ADAMS GOOD EVENING
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COUNSEL. I'M ROBERT ADAMS EXECUTIVE OF THE PEN CENTER AND I'VE HEARD SOME DISTURBING THINGS HERE TONIGHT ABOUT HOW YOU KNOW, IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PLAN OR YOU DISAGREE WITH THE IDEA OF THE EXCEPTION THAT SOMEHOW YOU'RE MISINFORMED OR YOU'VE BEEN THREATENED OR YOU KNOW THERE'S A SILENT MAJORITY OUT THERE BUT IN REALITY THERE'S BEEN A VOCAL MAJORITY THAT HAS SHOWN UP FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS. THERE'S EXPRESSED THEIR DESIRES THEY'VE EXPRESSED TO ME THAT THEY DON'T WANT ANOTHER GOLF COURSE. THEY DON'T WANT ANOTHER GATED COMMUNITY ON SAINT HELENA. WHAT THEY'VE SHOWN IS THAT THEY WANT TO STAND BY AND SUPPORT CPO FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS ST HELENA ISLAND COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED ITS VISION THROUGH THE CPO THE NEED TO PROTECT EACH CULTURE, THE NEED TO PROTECT THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE ISLAND FOR GULLAH AND NON NON GULLAH LIKE AND THE NEED TO LET RESIDENTS OF SAINT HELENA DETERMINE THE FUTURE THROUGH THEIR ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.THE PINE ISLAND PROJECT IS THE OPPOSITE OF ALL THESE THINGS IT THREATENS TO DISLOCATE THE RESIDENTS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS THAT HAVE A TRACK RECORD A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF RESIDENTIAL DISPLACEMENT OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY THE PROJECT THREATENS TO UNLEASH GROWTH ON THE ISLAND FURTHER HARMING THE ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES THAT ANCHOR GULLAH GEECHEE LIFE AND CULTURE WORST OF ALL THIS PROJECT WORKING THROUGH REPEATED APPLICATIONS AND LAWSUITS THREATENS TO WORK AROUND THE RESIDENTS OFFERING UP INCENTIVES IN EXCHANGE FOR AN EXEMPTION FROM RESPONDING TO POPULAR WILL THE Z.
THE CPO IS A VISION AND PROMISE EQUITY IN A COUNTY ALREADY SUFFERING FROM NATIONAL WEALTH PRESSURES, LOCAL PRACTICES AND POLICIES. AND I'LL FINISH UP A QUOTE FROM A SONG FROM A SON OF THE SOUTH WILLIAM FAULKNER SOMETHING SHE MUST ALWAYS BE TO BEAR SOME THINGS YOU MUST NEVER STOP REFUSING TO BEAR INJUSTICE AND OUTRAGE AND DISHONOR AND SHAME NO MATTER HOW YOUNG YOU ARE OR HOW OLD YOU HAVE GOT NOT FOR KUDOS AND NOT FOR CASH YOUR PICTURE IN THE PAPER NOR MONEY IN THE BANK EITHER. JUST REFUSE TO BEAR THEM.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. EVANS. ALL RIGHT, BONNIE.
TRUE STORY, BONNIE. CHRIS STALLARD ALL RIGHT HOW ABOUT ED ADKINS JR BETTER GET IT DONE. OH, BARNEY'S RIGHT SORRY. ED ADKINS JR WILL BE NEXT AND MARIE GIBBS AND YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY I'M FOR OR AGAINST IN COLLEGE.
ALL RIGHT SO I'M FOR UPHOLDING THE CPO. I DON'T LIVE ON SAINT HOW ON EARTH ON LADIES ISLAND BUT I HAVE FOLLOWED THIS SENSE ON 22 I HAVE BEEN AT MOST OF YOUR MEETINGS AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL MEETING THAT WE HAD EARLY SEPTEMBER AND I JUST WANT TO SAY IF THIS MAN WANTS TO BUILD SOME REALLY NICE HOUSES ON PROPERTY HE PURCHASE, I THINK MAYBE HE MAYBE BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHIN REASON BUT NO GOLF COURSE AND NO GATED COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT FLOURISHING AND HAVE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES AS WELL AS MORE MIDDLE PRICED HOMES LIKE HABERSHAM AND LIKE SORE POINT.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE IN A GOLF COURSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN A GATED COMMUNITY AND I WOULD LIKE TO UPHOLD SEAT YO THANK YOU THANK YOU AND ED ADKINS PLEASE.
HELLO, MR. ABRAMS. HOW YOU DOING? GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU OVERPASS THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. GOOD NIGHT.
BE YE SAYING GOOD MORNING TO YOU. COME IN THE MORNING.
GO AHEAD. MY NAME IS ERIC JOE. I OWN A BUSINESS ON HIGH RETURN AND ONE CALLED KODAK AND LOVE BEAT LOCAL OYSTERS. NO, I KNOW A LOT OF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT BUT I KNEW ABOUT PINE ISLAND. PINE ISLAND IS NOT THE PLACE TO BE DEVELOP REALLY? NO. OUR FISH JUST BASE IN NIGHT.
NO. IF YOU DEVELOP ON ISLAND AS IT IS AND THIS YEAR OR NEXT THE NEAR FUTURE IS COMPLETED OR THERE'S SHELLFISH THERE IS DYING.
NO WE CAN GET THE MARSH TO GROW BECAUSE IT'S SAND ON ONE SIDE AND MORE ON SO ALL THAT STUFF
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WASH ABOUT YOU KNOW MAKING THIS BARRIER WE CAN BURY UP A WASH OUT.IT AIN'T REALLY POSSIBLE OUT REALLY. OH I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AT NIGHT AND I'VE SEEN MANY MANY OF WASH OUT ON THAT PLACE AND IT JUST IT AIN'T FEASIBLE FOR GOLF COURSE IT IT FEASIBLE OR NO HOUSING BECAUSE THE BLUFFS THE STUFF FOR SO HIGH YOU WASHED OVER CONVERT YOUR DOCKS AWAY. NO FOR YOU GENERATE YES GO GET YOUR PLAN FOR US YEARS AGO I ADVISE TO STICK TO THEIR GUNS DON'T FALL A BECAUSE SOMEBODY ASKED YOU A BOOK AGAINST A PINE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU BYE.
ALL RIGHT THANK YOU AND AND THEN SHELLY YOU HAS THEN I CAN'T EVEN READ THE NEXT NAME.
OKAY, LET'S DO MARIE. LET'S SEE WHAT YOUR HOWARD AND THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS DR. MARIE GIBBS. I'M A LONG TERM RESIDENT OF THIS, A RETIRED EDUCATOR WHO TAUGHT OVER 34 YEARS RETIRED NOW AND YOU SAW MANY OF MY STUDENTS COME UP AND PRESENT TO THE BOARD. MY GRANDFATHER BEN BENJAMIN WAS GIVEN THE KEY TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AT THE TENDER AGE 101 FOR THE SERVICE THE COMMUNITY AND THE EARLY AGE THE NEED TO BE EDUCATED, THE LOVE OF COMMUNITY LAND OWNERSHIP WAS INSTILLED ON AND ON US AND THAT'S WHY TODAY, SAID HELEN ISLAND COMMUNITY IS THE MOST EDUCATED IN THE.
I STAND BEFORE YOU NOT JUST AS A VOICE LIKE MANY OTHERS FROM EVERY WALK OF LIFE AS A VESSEL OF MEMORY RESILIENT AND HOPE WE HAVE A DESCENDANT OF PEOPLE WHO TURNED SURVIVAL INTO CULTURE.
WE TRANSFORM PAIN INTO PRAISE AND WHO MADE THE LAND NOT JUST A PLACE TO LIVE BUT A PLACE TO BELONG FOR THE GOING GET YOUR PEOPLE LAND IS MORE THAN THE STOLEN PROPERTY IT IS OF OUR CULTURE IS WHERE OUR ANCESTORS TOIL, SANG, PRAYED AND BUILT COMMUNITY THAT STILL THE STRONG STRENGTH TODAY LET US REMEMBER OUR CULTURE IS NOT A RELIC. THIS IS A LIVING FORCE.
OUR PRAISE HOUSES, OUR SONG, OUR FOOD, OUR ALL RISE FROM THE LAND WITHOUT IT WE RISK BECOMING DISCONNECTED FROM THE VERY ESSENCE OF WHO WE ARE. DO YOU KNOW IF THE CPO WAS DISMANTLED AND APPROVED FOR ONE DEVELOPER FOR A GOLF COURSE A LIFE AS WE KNOW IT WOULD BE LOST? THE QUESTION WOULD BE DO YOU REMEMBER THE WHO USED TO LIVE ON SUNDAY ON THIS ISLAND? THE PEOPLE THERE'S A SAYING GIVE A MAN, GIVE THEM AN INCH THEY TAKE A MILE ONCE A PANDORA'S BOX IS OPENED WE KNOW HOW THE STORY ENDS.
GO GET PEOPLE OUR CULTURE BE ERASED TOO. SO TODAY SO TODAY STAND WITH US AND VOTE IN HELPING US SAVE OUR LIVES, OUR LAND AND PRESERVING OUR LEGACY TO PROTECT NOT JUST PROPERTY BUT PRIDE TO ENSURE THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE CAN WALK THE SAME PATH OUR ANCESTORS WALKED KNOW THEY ARE THE HOME THEY ARE HOME.
WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE, A GIFT AND A BLUEPRINT LEFT BY ANCESTORS.
IT'S A FUTURE GENERATION AND I'M ONE OF THEM. THIS IS OUR WILL RED LIGHT OBEY IS OUTLINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAY NO TO DOWNSIZE OR CARVING OUT FOR AN 18 HOLE GOLF COURSE OR GET RESOLVED AS A DEVELOPER CONTROLLING THE COUNTY PRESENTING GIFTS INFRASTRUCTURE PAID FOR PLANS AND OTHER PROMISE TO THE PEOPLE.
WHY DO WE TAXES AND VOTE FOR ONE REFERENDUM? WHAT ESSENTIAL NEEDS OF THE COUNTY? WE'RE IN DEEP TROUBLE IF WE ALLOW THIS TREND LAW TO EXIST.
THE RULE OF LAW MATTERS. ALL OF YOU SITTING ON THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAVE AND REAL NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE VOTE YOU WILL WHAT THE WHAT WILL MEAN WHAT YOUR VOTE WILL MEAN YOUR VOTE WILL EITHER SAVE US OR RACE THIS AND THIS IS REAL NO PROMISES OF GIFTS FINANCIAL
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GAINS CAN BRING BACK CULTURE YOU'LL BE IN CONTROL AND ELECTING YOUR THIS JURY WANTS TO BE ABLE TO SOMEONE PROBABLY OF THE INDIANS THE SAME GIFTS PLANS IS THIS THE HIDDEN AGENDA WE WILL BEEN A VICTIM OF HISTORY WE ARE THE STEWARD OF IT THANK YOU.THANK YOU SHELLY YOUR HOUSE AGAIN I ASK THAT PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING NEW TO ADD THAT'S FINE. SHELLY, YOU'RE UP.
GREETINGS, MADAM CHAIR. MY NAME IS SHELLY. GET US.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN BEAUFORT AND NOW LIVE IN MR. GLOVER'S DISTRICT.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. I KNOW THAT ALL GETTING WEARY RECENTLY I REREAD 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALMOST 200 PAGES OF A GUIDING DOCUMENT CREATED IN 2021 WITH ACKNOWLEDGMENTS THAT INCLUDE COUNTY COUNCIL OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, THE COUNTY STAFF AND A TEAM OF PLANNING CONSULTANTS CERTAINLY THE PEOPLE OF SAINT HELENA AND ITS NEIGHBORS HAVE FOUGHT HARD TO DEFEND THE CPO EVEN CAMPS AND RECENTLY CAME DOWN FROM CHARLESTON TO PLEDGES SUPPORT I WAS ONCE TOLD THAT SENATOR KIMPSON SHARED WITH ANOTHER MEMBER OF OUR LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL DON'T LET WHAT'S HAPPENING IN CHARLESTON HAPPEN TO YOU IN BEAUFORT AS I THOUGHT ABOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PLAN I BEGAN TO CONSIDER THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING OUR WORD. WE ARE NOT PROTESTING IN SUPPORT OF A RADICAL IDEA. WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING YOU TO KEEP YOUR WORD CONTINUE AFTER LIVING IN CHARLESTON FOR 31 YEARS I HAVE STORIES OF ESCALATING PROPERTY VALUES AND TAXES DRIVING OUT GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES. I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY DOWN 41 IN NORTH MOUNT PLEASANT WHERE THEY'RE STRUGGLING THE TWO LANE ROAD THROUGH THE ST PHILLIP'S COMMUNITY TO ACCOMMODATE JUNE'S WEST RIVER TOWN BRICKYARD AND THE THOUSANDS OF CARS THAT PUSH THROUGH THOSE TWO LANES EVERY DAY AGAIN. WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT A RADICAL IDEA BUT ASKING YOU TO KEEP YOUR WORD FOUND IN THE GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT YOU CREATED RECOGNIZING.
THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC ST HELENA ISLAND PLEASE I RESPECT ASK YOU HOLD THE LINE ON THE CPO THANK YOU THANK YOU I SELL OH LET'S SEE I REALLY READ THE NAME IT LOOKS LIKE NATHAN MAYES MAYBE NO SALLY'S NUMBER THREE IT'S NATHAN MAYES.
MAYBE IF YOU SIGNED UP FOR THREE I'M GOING OVER YOU IS THAT WE'RE NOT ON THREE WE'RE ON TWO. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS I GUESS DEBORAH MARTIN IS GONE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU ARE YOU NATHAN? YEAH. YOU WRITE LIKE A DR. HE SAID THE AND BUT I'M HERE NOW I CAN'T BREATHE WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? MY NAME THORNTON LACEY AND I'M WITH CRYSTAL EXPEDITIONS. YEAH, WE OPERATE IN SAINT HELENA AND CAROLINA.
I'M LOOKING FOR NATHAN MAYS. I THOUGHT YOU CALLED THORNTON. NO, NATHAN MAYS SAID I TAKE OFF . I'M HERE NOW. ALL RIGHT, DEBORAH MARTIN'S GONE TREY NELSON. I GOT TO GO. AND IT WAS A GOOD TRAIN.
NELSON, AGAIN, I ASK YOU TO PLEASE BE BRIEF WHEN SO DEBORAH LEFT.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE YOU'RE MY NAME IS TREY JOSEPH NELSON. I AM THE GREAT GRANDSON OF AGNES KALI SHERMAN AND THE GRANDSON OF JOSEPH BENJAMIN SHERMAN WHO IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING ADVISORY IN THE 1990S. SO WHAT I DID WAS I WENT BACK TO ANCESTRY.COM AND I WENT BACK TO 1992, FOUR YEARS BEFORE I WAS BORN AND IT'S A VERY SIMILAR PREDICAMENT WE ARE IN TODAY AND I TAKE IT TO MEAN WE HAVEN'T LEARNED FROM IT. WE AND YET WE'RE HERE AGAIN AND I'LL KEEP IT SHORT TO PARAPHRASE WHAT MY GRANDFATHER SAID WAS WE'RE VERY ANXIOUS AND
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THIS IS AN EXACT QUOTE FROM THE BEFORE GAZETTE IN 1992 AUGUST 14 TO BE EXACT.WE'RE VERY ANXIOUS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WE WANT TO KEEP OUR ISLAND AND CHARACTER THE WAY IT IS. WE'RE FOR LESS DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN MORE.
I USE MY TIME. THANK YOU APPRECIATE THAT, IVAN.
WHOEVER THAT IS GONE. THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME. OKAY.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M MY NUMBER 41 65. THAT WOULD BE AM CULP SEE YOU HELP. NO. OKAY.
I HAVE ARTHUR WILLIAMS. OH, THERE'S ARTHUR. OKAY.
HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. OUR BOARD MEMBERS MANY OF MY FRIENDS THAT SIT OUT AND NO AUDIENCE EARLIER TONIGHT PEOPLE THAT I SAW AND I WANT TO BE FRANK I AM FOR SUPPORTING AH THE DEVELOPMENT AND IN SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE AS MAN I SAW SOME OF THE SAME THINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE TONIGHT WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING LYNCHED BECAUSE OF THEM TRYING TO DEVELOP A COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS I HAVE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES I'VE BEEN ON THE SIDE OF SEEING THAT PLACE WITH FAMILY PROPERTY THAT WAS AYERS PROPERTY AND SOMEHOW WHEN THOSE AYRES PROPERTY WAS UP WHERE WE HAD OPPORTUNITY ON A SECLUDED ISLAND TO ACTUALLY USE THAT PROPERTY TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT AND MANY OF MY ANCESTORS ARE RELATIVES OR COUSINS FOR THE DEVELOPERS THAT CAME OVER THERE TO THIS DAY THOSE PROPERTIES ARE STILL UNDEVELOPED BECAUSE. WE DON'T HAVE OUR FAMILY DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO THE PROPERTY SO ALL WE HAVE IS JUST PROPERTY WHEREAS IF WE HAD NOT FOUGHT SO HARD TO BE AGAINST IT THEN THE DEVELOPERS THAT CAME WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY POOL WITH THEM STILL MAINTAIN A PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY AND STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT I'VE SAT THE SIDE THAT YOU ALL ARE SITTING ON NOW AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND ALSO AS A COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND I HAVE SEEN THE SAME THING TAKE PLACE. THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT COMPLAIN WHEN IT'S TIME FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND MAKE THE COMMUNITY BETTER AND THEN THEY TIMES WHEN THEY COMPLAIN WHEN TAXES HAVE TO BE RAISED OR THEY ADMINISTRATOR HAVE TO SIT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO MAKE A DOLLAR STRETCH OR WHEN IT'S TIME FOR THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TELLING THEIR EXECUTIVE THAT THEY HAVE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET AND WHO GET OFTEN HURT IN THE PROCESS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOLS THEN THE CHILDREN HURT ONLY ONE PERSON TONIGHT THAT I'VE SEEN UP HERE OR TALK ABOUT OR THE YOUTH AND I YOU FORBID US FROM CALLING NAMES SO I'M NOT GOING TO CALL THE SENATOR'S NAME BUT AH OKAY BUT WE SHOULD BE OF WAYS HOW WE CAN MAKE IT FOR ALL YOUNG PEOPLE LET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE COMMITTING CRIME THEY ARE KILLING ONE ANOTHER AND THEN YET DON'T FIGURE OUT WAYS THEN WHEN SOMEBODY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO ASSIST US WITH BUILDING RECREATION FACILITIES WE DON'T APPRECIATE IT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT ALSO ABOUT SOMEONE THAT HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT WHEN THOSE POTHOLES AND YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH IT EVERYBODY OH THE COUNTY IS NOT DOING THIS. THE COUNTY IS NOT DOING THAT BUT THEN WHEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT TO COME AND PROVIDE EXTRA RESOURCES WE HAVE WE WANT TO PREVENT IT. PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT AND I CAN ALMOST ASSURE YOU THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT THE MOST ARE THE ONES THAT ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
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THE RESOURCES OR TWO TO ACTUALLY GET HERE THEY ARE HOME WITH THEIR CHILDREN TO TRY TO MAKE A BETTER LIFE THEM BUT THEN WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IN LARGE THE PLACE WAS FILLED UP AND EVERYBODY WAS TALKING EVEN WHEN THE COUNCIL STARTED TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO ARE TRYING TO HAVE A SALES INCREASE. NO I ASSURE YOU ALL THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE HANGING UP SIGNS ARE HOLDING UP SIGNS TONIGHT WOULD BE THE SAME ONE THAT WON A VOTE . THE ISSUE IS NOW WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT AND WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY SO I AM SAYING TO YOU IN CHARLOTTE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESOURCES YES THEY'RE GOING TO FIGHT AND THEY DON'T NEED DEVELOPMENT WHEN THEY ARE SO MANY UNDERSERVED YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM RECREATION.THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING A DEVELOPER THAT OF AGREED TO HELP REPAIR HOUSES THAT DOES THAT IS IN THE WRONG YEAR OF PLAN SO TONIGHT AS WE COME HERE LET US THINK LOGICAL LET US THINK ABOUT THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO REPAIR THEIR HOME. LET US THINK ABOUT THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY TO GET OUR TO GET THEIR LAND STRAIGHTENED OUT FROM OUR IS PROPERTY OKAY THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE AGREED WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE AGAIN.
PLEASE MAKE YOUR SPEECH SHORT AND IF IT'S FOUR AGAINST YOU COULD SAY THAT OTHERWISE SOMEBODY IS BOOKING EVERYBODY BREAKFAST. I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT WILL BE.
OH WE'RE ALL GOING TO WAFFLE HOUSE JOHN KAMARA NEXT. OKAY HOW ABOUT KATE SCHAEFER? I KNOW WHO SHE IS THERE WE GO. HI, I'M KATE SCHAFFER WITH THE OPEN LAND TRUST AND WE ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THE CPO BUT I ALSO AM GOING TO BE UNTRADITIONAL IN BRIEF WHEN IT COMES TO TALKING ABOUT LAND CONSERVATION AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICES AND JUST HIGHLIGHT AN EMAIL THAT SOME CONSERVATION COLLEAGUES SENT IN REGARDING THE NATIONAL AUDUBON SOCIETY OF WHICH SOUTH CAROLINA AUDUBON IS A CHAPTER AND JUST RESTATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THAT HAS NO RELATIONSHIP AUDUBON INTERNATIONAL WITH A GOLF COURSE CERTIFICATION. SO LET US NOT BE CONFUSED ABOUT THE CONSERVATION ORGANIZATION LOONS AT PLAY HERE AND DISCONNECT NATIONAL SOCIETY FROM AUDUBON INTERNATIONAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU KATE.
APPRECIATE IT. MARILYN HEMINGWAY AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WILL BE THORNTON LEE.
OKAY. WELL YOU'RE COMING UP NEXT THEN JOSHUA JENKINS.
ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING.
I HAD TO WAIT TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AGO. I HAD THE PLEASURE SPEAKING AT THE LAND TRUST 2025 RALLY WHICH IS THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF LAND TRUSTS AND CONSERVANCY THESE ARE TOPIC IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A TOKYO LAND CONSERVANCY AND SOME CULTURE KEEPER CULTURE KEEPERS WAS CULTURE CONSERVATION AND COMMERCE. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THOSE THREE TOPICS CAN WORK TOGETHER. SO ON BEHALF OF THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THE PRIVATE PARTNER SHIP AGREEMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PINE ISLAND.
THIS IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY TO BE A LEADER IN CONSERVATION, COMMERCE AND CULTURE AND CHANGE THE PARADIGM BUT TO THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS THE GALAXY OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND THAT NEEDS TO INVESTMENT. THIS IS TRUE INVESTMENT IN THE PEOPLE OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND. THE PROGRAMS AND THOSE THAT WOULD GENERATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH AND ECONOMIC WELFARE ARE THOSE YOU WHO MAY REMEMBER I GOT THIS JOURNEY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT ENDED UP IN CLEVELAND, OHIO WHERE THE TRUST 2025 RALLY WAS HELD BECAUSE I WAS FIRST APPROACH TO BE AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT AND I DID COME OUT TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT. AND BEFORE I COULD EVEN LEAVE THE BUILDING IS STILL IN BEAUFORT I GOT PHONE CALLS FROM RESIDENTS SAINT HELENA ISLAND SAID MARILYN YOU DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. SO I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO DO
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THE RESEARCH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS ON. I MET WITH RESIDENTS OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND. I WITH THOSE WHO LIVE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.I MET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND I WENT OUT TO PINE ISLAND BECAUSE I FREELY ADMIT I SHOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THE WORD OF THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE. I SHOULD HAVE DONE MY OWN RESEARCH AND WHEN I DID I CHANGED MY MIND AND I CAME BACK AND ANNOUNCED TO COUNTY COUNCIL THAT I HAD CHANGED MY MIND AND IT MAY BE THE OPTION IS TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND IT MAY INCLUDE A GOLF COURSE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPED.
THE DEVELOPER TOOK HIS TIME AND WORKED A COMMUNITY AND HE'LL SHARE IT'S A FOCUS GROUPS AND MET WITH FOLKS ONE ON ONE AND I DID SO MYSELF WHEN PEOPLE CALLED AND SAID MARILYN HAD SOLD OUT AND OTHER THINGS SO I'VE TONIGHT THAT THOSE THINGS DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAPPEN BUT YES THEY DID BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LIVED IT BUT TOOK THE TIME TO DO MY OWN RESEARCH AND I QUESTIONED AND I COME BACK TO YOU TODAY NOT ONLY WITH THAT INFORMATION NOT ONLY GOING TO THE LAND TRUST RALLY IN 2025 BECAUSE THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE TYPES OF CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS THAT HAVE DIFFERING AND DIFFERENT EXPERT AREAS OF EXPERTIZE THESE . BUT I CAME BACK ON BEHALF OF THE U.S. CHAMBER AFTER THREE YEARS OF WORKING THIS AND LISTENING FOLKS AND READING THE CPO AND UNDERSTANDING THE CPO AND THE ZONING AND ORDINANCES THAT WOULD ALLOW MORE THAN 150 HOUSES, HUNDRED DOGS AND 173 SEPTIC TANKS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PERMITTED. SO YOU HAVE A CHOICE HERE.
IS IT AN EASY CHOICE? IT IS NOT. BUT THERE IS ONE CHOICE THAT COULD BE REAL INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS MUCH NEEDED.
SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REITERATE OUR SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THE DOWN ZONING PLAN THAT COMES LISTENING TO PEOPLE FROM STUDYING AND PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT NOT ONLY WOULD PROVIDE BENEFIT TO THE TO THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT THAT BUT IT WILL PROVIDE CLEAR BENEFIT TO THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OKAY, THORN, YOU'RE UP. LAST TIME I WAS UP I COULD SAY A GOOD EVENING BUT I'LL WISH YOU GOOD MORNING. WELL, IT'S JUST AFTER MIDNIGHT.
WE'RE OKAY. GO AHEAD. AGAIN, MY NAME IS THORTON AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF COASTAL EXPEDITIONS. WE OPERATE OUT OF SAINT HELENA.
WE'RE AN ECO TOURISM AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE TONIGHT IS THAT WE SEEK OUT SAINT HELENA AS A BUSINESS FOR IT IS WHAT IT IS NOW AND WE'VE INVESTED LOT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND I'VE HEARD THE COMMENT THAT YOU KNOW SOMETIMES CHILDREN LOOKED OVER AND WE'RE NOT PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES AND WE DO A LOT FOR EDUCATION THROUGH OUR COMPANY.
IT'S BEEN A PRIMARY FOCUS FOR US AND WE'VE CERTAINLY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY IN THAT REGARD PROVIDING SUMMER CAMPS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO GET CHILDREN OUT ON THE WATER THROUGH OUR FOUNDATION MUCH OF THAT AT NO COST AND GIVING THEM EXPERIENCE AS CHILDREN THAT HAVE GROWN UP HERE THAT HAVE NEVER EVEN THEN ON THE WATER. SO WHAT LIKE TO MENTION TONIGHT I'M KEEP AT THE FOREFRONT IS THERE IS GROWTH THERE IS GROWTH OUTSIDE OF THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY AND I'M CERTAINLY IN OPPOSITION OF IT YOU KNOW I DON'T THINK THE GAME OF GOLF IS A BAD THING BUT I THINK THERE'S A PLACE FOR GOLF COURSES AND I DON'T THINK IT'S HERE THE LASTING IMPACT THAT THE RUNOFF HAS ON OUR ECOSYSTEM WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT REALIZE THAT WE'RE IN ONE OF THE SECOND MOST PRODUCTIVE ECOSYSTEM IN THE WORLD RIGHT HERE SECOND TO THE RAINFOREST. SO MY WHOLE LIFE I'VE GROWN UP HERE AND SAVE RAINFOREST.
DON'T CUT THE TREES. GIVE US MONEY FOR THE RAINFOREST AND HERE WE ARE IN OUR BACKYARD WITH THE SECOND MOST PRODUCTIVE ECOSYSTEM AND IT'S OUR CHANCE TO SAVE IT AND TELL A QUICK LITTLE AND I'VE FOUND THAT THE TERM SHORT IS VERY RELATIVE.
THIS IS GOING TO BE SHORT ALL NIGHT. PROMISE YOU THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE SHORT. BUT ONE OF MY FAVORITE BIRDS OUT THERE THE PELICAN AND I REALLY LIKE THE EASTERN BROWN PELICAN CALLED BIRD. RIGHT.
WE SEE A LOT OF THEM AROUND AND THEY ARE PREHISTORIC. THEY'VE BEEN AROUND OVER 30 MILLION YEARS. LOTS OF COOL ADAPTATIONS. I LOVE WATCHING THEM OUT THERE BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT AS MANY AS WE SEE TODAY JUST A SHORT TIME AGO THESE BIRDS WERE ENDANGERED AND ON THE VERGE OF EXTINCTION AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS A CHEMICAL IT WAS DDT.
THE DDT THEN THE SHELL OF THE EGGS BIRDS THEN ON THEIR EGGS THEY INCUBATED THEM.
THEY CRUSHED DREGS THEY CAN'T REPRODUCE. AND SO THESE BIRDS WERE FALLING OFF THE EARTH AND WHEN EXTINCTION HAPPENS THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO REVERSE, RIGHT? IT'S GONE FOREVER FOR AN ETERNITY.
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YOU CAN'T GO BACKWARDS. AND THERE WAS AN AWESOME LADY BY THE NAME OF RACHEL CARSON WHO IN THAT REALIZED THE PROBLEM AND STOOD UP FOR THESE BIRDS.A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT BEHIND HER AND THROUGH THOSE EFFORTS THE GOVERNMENT THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SAW THE ISSUE AND WERE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION. THEY BASICALLY FORMED THE EPA.
THE EPA BANNED DDT. RIGHT. AND THESE BIRDS HAD A CHANCE TO COME BACK AND SEE ME THINK I'M CRAZY TELLING THIS STORY BUT WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS WHAT I SEE TODAY IS NOT AN ANIMAL THAT'S ENDANGERED. IT'S AN ENTIRE CULTURE.
IT'S A HERITAGE IT'S ST HELENA AS WE KNOW IT IS IN YOUR HANDS AND IT IS IN DANGER OF EXTINCTION. I MEAN GO IN A WAY WE KNOW IT IS ST HELENA SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO POUR IN TO THE PEOPLE THAT CAME HERE FOR WHAT IT IS THAT ARE INVESTED HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW SPECIAL IT IS AND KNOW THAT THERE IS GROWTH MOVING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION AND THAT WHAT WE DON'T NEED IS A GATED GOLF COURSE THAT CREATES MORE DIVIDE IN THE COMMUNITY THAN GOOD. SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU, MR. LACEY. JOSHUA JENKINS AND THEN STEVEN VAN VALKENBURG.
OOH THAT'S A NICE ONE. ALL RIGHT, JOSHUA OF MORNING. I'LL BE BACK.
I'LL BE BRIEF. YEAH, TRULY. MY NAME IS JOSHUA JENKINS AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF THE NATIONAL PARKS ASSOCIATION OR MP K MP K AN INDEPENDENT NONPARTISAN NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT TOGETHER WITH MORE THAN 21,000 MEMBERS AND SUPPORTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND 1.9 MILLION NATIONALLY WORKS TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE OUR NATION'S NATIONAL PARKS AND NATIONAL PARK SERVICE SITES.
EARLIER THIS YEAR I SUBMITTED A WRITTEN COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL IN WHICH I WROTE ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF ST HELENA AND BEAUFORT COUNTY TO RECONSTRUCTION AREA HISTORY AND OF THE CENTRAL ROLE THAT PEOPLE PLAYED IN THE RADICAL POLITICAL AND SOCIAL EXPERIMENTS OF THAT ERA. AND IN THAT COMMENT I WENT ON TO QUOTE THE 2005 NATIONAL PARK SERVICE GULLAH CULTURE SPECIAL RESOURCE STUDY AND FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL STATEMENT.
I'LL READ A BRIEF QUOTE FROM THAT AGAIN THIS MORNING. IT SAYS THAT COASTAL DEVELOPMENT CHANGING, JOB MARKETS AND POPULATION SHIFTS HAVE FORCED MANY PEOPLE TO LEAVE THEIR ANCESTRAL FAMILY LANDS E TRADITIONAL ECONOMY OF FARMING, FISHING, HUNTING AND SMALL SCALE MARKETING OF SUBSISTENCE PRODUCTS HAS BEEN REPLACED BY A SUBURBAN AND RESORT SERVICE ECONOMY. THESE CHANGES THREATEN U.S. CULTURAL SURVIVAL AND THEIR DISTINCT IDENTITY AS PEOPLE WHO HAVE SURVIVED SINCE COLONIAL TIMES.
IT WON'T BE MANY TRADITIONAL GLOBAL COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN LOST TO REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT ENCROACHMENT BY OUTSIDERS AND THE RESULTING ECONOMIC HARDSHIP .
I WANT TO REAFFIRM THOSE COMMENTS THIS MORNING AND TO URGE YOU TO UPHOLD THE SPIRIT OF THE CPO AS WELL. THANK YOU. STEPHEN THEN VALKENBURG THAT ONE ROLLS OFF MY TONGUE. STEPHEN NO. ALL RIGHT.
LESTER AND I CAN'T SEE YOU SCRIBBLED THE LAST NAME SO LESTER BROWN MAYBE.
LESTER WHO'S A LESTER? ALL RIGHT. GONE.
PAULA SMITH. PAULA SMITH. DON'T GINGER BLUNT.
DON'T OPENER YOU NEED. WE ALSO HAVE TO AFTER YOU MENTION AGAIN IS ALL THE REASONS. OKAY MISS BLOUNT. OKAY.
SHE'S NOT HERE. RIGHT HERE SHE COMES. SORRY.
EUROPE. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU GUYS MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO COME BEFORE AND SPEAK TONIGHT. I MEAN WELL THIS MORNING MY NAME IS GINGER BLUNT AND I WANTED TO FIRST START OFF WITH SOMETHING THAT I WROTE THAT WAS MY EARNEST AND HONEST PRAYER FOR THE OUTCOME THIS THING TONIGHT AND WHAT I WROTE WAS HEAVENLY FATHER, HOLY AND GRACIOUS GOD AND MOST HIGH OVERALL CREATION AUTHOR WISDOM AND PRAYERS OF PEACE WE PAUSE BEFORE YOU WE CONFESS THAT OUR EMOTIONS CAN RUN HOT, OUR EGOS
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CAN GET LOUD AND OUR FEARS CAN CLOUD OUR FAITH QUIET US NOW GIVE US MINDS THAT ARE CALM AND CLEAR HEARTS THAT ARE HUMBLE AND BRAVE AND SONGS THAT ARE TRUTHFUL AND KIND.WE PRAY FOR THE CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS OF THIS COLONY THE STUDENT WHO STEPPED AWAY FOR A SEASON TO DECIDE WHICH WAY OF LIFE IS BEST FOR HER WHEN HOPE FELT THIN THE TEEN WHO NEEDS A TEACHER A NEIGHBOR TO SAY YOU BELONG HERE PLANT THEM BY LIVING WATER, SURROUND THEM WITH SAFE SPACES MENTORING, TRAINING AND MEANINGFUL WORK. LET THEM SEE A FUTURE ON THIS ISLAND THAT HONORS THEIR PAST AND INVESTS IN THEIR PROMISE REPAY WE PRAY FOR EVERY PARENT WHO HEARS THE NEWS AND CLUTCHES THEIR CHEST WONDERING IF THEIR WILL BE THE NEXT NAME.
WE MOURN LORD WE HAVE HEAL OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MAKE PEACEMAKERS WHO BUILD BRIDGES NOT WALLS WHO CHOOSE COMPASSION OVER CONCEPT WHERE GROUPTHINK HAS REPLACED HONEST DISCERNMENT BREAK THE SPELL WHERE PEER PRESSURE AND FEAR OF BACKLASH WITH THEORIES MAKE US STEADY GIVE US THE COURAGE EXAMINE FACTS CAREFULLY TO DISAGREE WITHOUT THE MEANING AND HONOR THE IMAGE OF GOD AND THOSE ACROSS THE AISLE FROM US . WE BLESSED THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED LONG AT HEART FOR THE SOLUTION LIKE OUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE FOR OUR LEADERS GRANT A SPIRIT OF JUSTICE WITH MERCY, CONVICTION WITH HUMILITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, GRANT UNITY WITHOUT UNIFORMITY, LOVE WITHOUT CONDITION.
AS COUNCIL PREPARES BY EXECUTIVE SESSIONS GRANT CLARITY, PATIENCE AND UNITY OF PURPOSE LET QUESTIONS BE SHORT BUT FAIR LET DECISIONS STEWARDSHIP OUR VISION AND OUR LAW WE ASK YOUR SPECIAL OVER THOSE WHO HAVE LABORED A GOOPY LIKE MR. JOE PIANO MR. KEVIN DUKES OF HARVEY AND BETTY AGAIN OUR COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS THEIR TEENS AND FAMILY MEMBERS, THE STAFF AND THE LEGAL COUNSEL GOT OUR THOUGHTS STEADY OUR STEPS CROWD OUR EFFORTS WITH WHAT IS TRUE JUST A LIFE GIVING FOR EVERY NEIGHBOR.
WHAT A LONG ROAD IT ALL NEWLY PLANTED DO MORE THAN WE ASK OR IMAGINE MAKE THIS A DAY REMEMBER NOT FOR WHO WON AN ARGUMENT BUT FOR HOW WE LOVED OUR ISLAND AND ONE ANOTHER WELL ENERGY IS NAME I SO MAY PLAY PROTECT PRAYER. AMEN.
NOW I WANT TO GO ON TO MY COMMENT IF YOU COULD MOVE IT ALONG THREE AND A HALF MINUTES WITH 20 MORE, OKAY? YEP, YES, YEP SO I JUST HAVE A FEW POINTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AS FAR AS THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN WHEN IT COMES TO YOU GOT TO STOP THEM DIFFERENTIATING OR BEING ABLE TO CLARIFY THESE TALKING POINTS THAT I WAS GIVEN RECENTLY BY SOMEBODY WHO WAS ON THE FENCE WHEN IT CAME TO THIS AGREEMENT AND THEY ARE AS FOLLOWS.
SO I WAS ASKED I WAS ASKED WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST COMMUNITY OF THE PINE ISLAND AGREEMENT AND I BELIEVE MR. DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT AND ME AS A NONPROFIT MENTOR AND AS A AS A COMMUNITY A NONPROFIT ORGANIZER WHOSE MINISTRY IS THE YOUTH I WANT TO SAY THAT THE CHILDREN IN MY PROGRAM WHEN WE WERE ACTIVE IN SEASON HAD SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO DO AND SINCE WE'VE BEEN OUT OF SEASON AND THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING FOR THEM TO DO.
OF THE 33 CHILDREN IN MY ENROLLMENT, SEVEN OF THOSE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN ARRESTED.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK I THINK THAT THAT IS I THINK THAT EIGHT.
YES MA'AM BUT I THINK THAT IS A REFLECTION OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE KIDS ARE WHEN THEY HAVE THAT IDLE TIME AND THERE'S NOTHING FOR THEM TO DO. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN CLOSING THIS DEVELOPMENT NOTHING ELSE OFFERS HOPE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION AND ASK THAT YOU KEEP THOSE KIDS IN MIND WHEN YOU GO IN THE EXECUTIVE AND WHEN YOU CONSIDER THIS PROGRAM AND I THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH AGAIN SO BLESSED. THANK YOU.
TREY GRAVES STILL HERE? NO, HE'S NOT HERE. HE'S GONE.
YES. THANK YOU. HOW ABOUT ROY BROWN? I KNOW HE'S HERE. COME ON DOWN. AND THEN LEROY GUILLARD WOULD BE NEXT. ALL RIGHT, MR. BROWN, YOU'RE UP.
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S ROY BROWN. I CAME TO THIS PROJECT WITH THE IDEA OF THERE WAS AN OLD WHITE MAN THAT CAME TO SAID HELLO AND BOUGHT UP ALL THE BLACK FOLKS PROBABLY TOOK AWAY FROM THEM AND I HAD TO DO MY OWN INVESTIGATION AND THAT WAS NOT
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A TRUE STORY. THAT WAS A GENTLEMAN CAME SAINT HELENA THAT WANTED TO DO GOOD AND REJECTED HIM. SOME PEOPLE WERE HERE EARLIER TODAY OR SOME OF THE FIRST PERSONS I THINK THEY WENT DOWN TO THE PROPERTY AND PUT HANDS ONLY YOUNG MAN AND PRAYED FOR THE YOUNG MAN AND TOLD THE YOUNG MAN THAT THIS WAS A GOOD THIS WAS A GOOD PROJECT AND THEN COME BACK AND FLIP. THAT'S THE WAY LIFE IS IT CAN KILL YOU IS CARRYING THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY TO AGE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY JUST LIKE LATE YOUNG LADY SAID EARLIER IN CHARLESTON THEY TOLD ME IN CHARLESTON TO WATCH CECIL IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY THEY HAVE A RECORD OF TAKING OUT TAKEN AWAY PROPERTIES, COMING ALONG WITH BLACK FOLKS AND LOVING THEM UP AND GIVING THEM PIZZA AND THEN TAKEN THEIR PROPERTY.WELL, MY SON SPOKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE PROPERTY I GAVE HIM WAS ON ST HELENA HE'S HE MOVED BACK TO BE HURT BECAUSE COULDN'T PUT A GUN RANGE ON THE PROPERTY THAT HE ORDERED TO USE FOR HIM AND HIS GRANT AND MY GRANDSON IS CPO IS I AT THE CPO AND I SEE REVERSE DISCRIMINATION AND I MEAN THAT FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART BECAUSE I SEE HOW WE TREAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN COUNTY OUR POSTMASTER HERE FOR ALMOST 20 SOME YEARS BEEN AROUND THE COUNTRY DOING THE SAME THING, LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AND TRYING TO DO GOOD IN A COMMUNITY THAT THEY ASKED ME TO COME AND LOOK AT AND I SEE CECIL DOING THE SAME THING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY . LET'S GO TO UTAH.
LET'S GO TO UTAH WITH CECIL. HAS THIS BE A ACRES AND ACRES AND ACRES AND ACRES OF PROPERTY THAT PRESERVE ALL? WHO ARE WE PRESERVING THE PROPERTIES FOR SAINT HELENA WHO IS NOT GENERATIONAL WEALTH THAT COULD HELP OUR FOLKS I KNOW SOME FOLKS AS SOLD OUT TO CECIL AND I SOLD OUT TO TO CECIL AND WHAT THEY DID THEY CUT THEMSELVES SHORT OF GAINING GENERATIONAL WEALTH. I WORK IN HAMPTON FOR 20 YEARS AND I SEE HOW PEOPLE GROW TREES IN HAMPTON GOT EACH YEAR THEY GOT A TEN YEAR GENERATIONAL WEALTH AND IT GOES BACK SOME OF US ARE NOT PRIVY TO HAVE BEEN BORN WITH A SILVER SPOON OUR MOUTH THESE PEOPLE AND SAID HELLO HELENA I NEED HELP I GO TOO OFTEN I GO THE FIRES ON SAINT NO INSURANCE NO HEALTH INSURANCE, NO HOSPITALIZATION. I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL I TALKING TO THE NURSE HE SAID OH THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT DIE FROM HERE FROM PEOPLE THAT NAME ARE YOU RELATED? BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE NO INSURANCE IT RIGHT WELL OUR YOUNG CHILDREN OUR CHILDREN NEED HELP . MY DAUGHTER WENT TO IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL AND I AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT BECAUSE I PUT MYSELF IN A POSITION TO DO THAT BUT THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IF YOU DON'T HELP WHO IS GOING TO HELP YOU? THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. IT WAS PART LEROY HILLIARD STILL HERE.
OH, COME ON, I'M EXPERT BUT I'M HERE WELL YOU'RE NUMBER 66. YEAH, GO AHEAD.
I HAPPY TO BE HERE BECAUSE I HAVE A STORY TO TELL WHEN I WAS A PART OF THE INITIAL IT WHEN FIRST MADE THE WHAT ARE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT AND I DISAGREE WITH A LOT OF IT THEN AND ROY SAID BEST THAT THAT PLAN WAS NOT MADE FOR US IT WAS MADE TO CONTROL US.
ONE OF THE ISSUES ON THAT PLAN WAS THAT THEY GIVE THE LARGE LARGE FARMERS A WAY OUT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, THE PORT ROYAL I DISAGREED WITH THAT BUT I LOST THAT.
THE REASON I DISAGREED WITH THAT BECAUSE THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT BASE WOULD WRITE DOWN IS COMING BACK. THEY'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO APPROVE THEIR PLAN AND SO IF IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT I GOT UP HERE TO SUPPORT THE PLAN BECAUSE I WAS ELECTED AS A A CHAIRMAN OF DUPER JASPER EOC IN 1978. I RETIRED FROM THE NAVY IN 1975
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I WAS WAS ELECTED TO RUN EOC IN 80 AND I STAYED THERE TILL 928 OUT MOST JOB WAS RESPONSIBLE PROVIDING THE NECESSARY GOOD THE TO HELP OF WHAT WAS NEEDED TO PROVIDE FOR THE POOR PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND JASPER I'LL GO BACK TO MY DAY I REPAIRED MORE THAN 375 HOUSES FOR BEAUFORT AND JASPER DID ANYTHING THAT THEY COULDN'T GET NOW I GOT A IT BUT TELL ME YOU DIDN'T YOU PROVIDED SERVICES THE OTHER DAY FOR IT BUT THE DEVELOPERS YOU GET 300 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS THE DEVELOPERS WHO DID THE DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT DIDN'T WORK WE CAN'T OH JOB ALLOW US TO GET INTO THE HOUSES SO I'M SURE SOME PEOPLE ARE USING IT BUT NOT THE PEOPLE FROM OVER HERE THEY'RE VANISHING FROM OVER HERE AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH THERE'S NOTHING NOT A PROBLEM IN. THIS COMMUNITY THAT I HAVEN'T TRIED TO DEAL WITH OR TRY TO SOLVE BUT MOST OF IT WOULD THE COUNTY HEALTH AS WE WORK TOGETHER BUT I WON'T GO BACK TO WHAT I ORIGINALLY WROTE I'M TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON SUBJECT FOR YOU TODAY APPROVAL OF THE PINE ISLAND GOLF COURSE I AM SOMEWHAT MYSTIFIED BY HOW THE APPROVAL OF NONE OR NONE APPROVAL OF GOLF COURSES WOULD AFFECT THE PROTECTION OF GULLAH CULTURE, PEOPLE AND LAND OF SAINT HELENA ISLAND WELL OVER DEVELOPMENT NOW WHEN YOU GIVE THE LARGEST LAND ON WHICH IS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHEN YOU GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO ANNEX INTO CITY OF BEAUFORT OR PORT ROYALE BY ANYBODY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF 21 THAT COULDN'T MAINTAIN THE LAND FROM THERE BY WATER. THE PORT ROYAL OF BEAUFORT THEY CANNOT NEXT SO YOU DON'T HAVE A PROTECTION FOR THE DELEGATES AND I MADE THAT ARGUMENT THEN BUT IF YOU ACCEPT THAT PROMISES THAT THEY CAN NEXT THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A LAND USE PLAN THAT THAT PROTECTED GULLAH AS A PARTICIPANT IN NATIONAL I SAID I SERVE ON THE BOARD OF JASPER YOU'LL SEE IN 78 AND 1998 I WAS ELECTED AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO SERVE UNTIL 2018. DURING THAT TIME I REPAIRED ABOUT 375 HOMES AND BEFORE THAT YOU ASKED WHAT KIND OF BOTH COUNTIES PARTICIPATED BY PROVIDING FREE INSPECTION AND DID NOT CHANGE THE PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE OF THE REPAIRS RECENTLY DUVAL COUNTY PROVIDED FUNDED THROUGH CONTRACT TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING MOST OF OUR WORKING POPULATION COULD NOT AFFORD THEM. THERE WAS A RECENT EVENT HERE JUST HAPPENED NOT TOO LONG AGO. PINSON HAD HARRIS THE DAY IF WE'RE NOT CHANGING AND EVERYTHING IS CHANGING COME THEY CHANGED THE ROUTE ON THERE'S NOT PARADE ROUTE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 72 THERE'S NOT ANOTHER PARADE ROUTE HAS BEEN CHANGED I'VE BEEN HERE BUT THEY CHANGE THE HERITAGE PARADE ROUTE IN THIS RIGHT NOW THAT WAS A BIG ARGUMENT WITH FOLKS HERE BUT THE AT PINE ISLAND PLEASE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE IT ALONG WELL I'M TRYING TO SHOW THE DISPARITY OKAY. THAT I BUT YOU'RE AT 5 MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.OKAY? WE STILL HAVE 12 PEOPLE TO GO. ALL RIGHT THEN I'LL I WAS ELATED TO LEARN THAT THE POINT OF THE DEVELOPER WAS WILLING TO INVEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO IMPROVE LIVES OF HOMEOWNERS AND PROVIDE MEANINGFUL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR WORKFORCE. THEREFORE, I URGE THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE A REQUEST BY THE PANEL TO DEVELOP THANK YOU. I THINK YOU HAVE TO GIVE US MCDOWELL OUR ALL RIGHT ON IT GUESS WHAT WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST TEN ELIZABETH SANTEE I DON'T EVEN KNOW I CAN'T READ WHAT IT SAYS SHE HERE OKAY. COME ON OVER YOU ARE ON OVER AFTER HER IS DONNA FELBER AND
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THEN WILLIE TERRELL IF YOU COULD WANDER UP THAT'D BE GREAT.WE'RE ON ELIZABETH FIRST. HELLO DO ME A FAVOR. SAY YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME.
MY NAME IS LIZ AIKEN AND A GARY OF A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF BEAUFORT COUNTY BORN BRED WENT TO SCHOOL ON SAINT HELENA PROPERTY OWNER, SAINT HELENA PROPERTY OWNER AND LADIES ISLAND PROPERTY ON INVERT PROPERTY ON ROYAL MRS. CHAIRMAN ,MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND PUBLIC I HAVE A LOT OF REFLECTION WHEN I LOOK BACK AT BEAUFORT COUNTY AND WHAT USED TO BE HERE FOR BEAUFORT WHY IT'S GREEN, GREAT SCENERY AND SAFE AND ON SATURDAY I TOOK THE TIME TO DRIVE AROUND TO SEE THE LANDSCAPE BECAUSE I WAS WANTED TO SEE WHY I WAS HAVING WATER SETTLED IN MY YARD WHEN LIVED IN ONE OF THE HIGHEST PLACE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.
AND THEN I SAW THE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN JUST THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THERE APPEARS TO BE A LACK OF RESPECT AND APPRECIATE AND FOR THE LAND, THE OCEAN AND PEOPLE AND MANY OF YOU DID NOT LIVE THROUGH ANY MAJOR STORMS HERE THE LAST ONE BEING AND BIG STORM IN 1959 WHICH WAS GRACIE WHEN THE ISLAND DEVASTATED AND PRIVATE PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS IN 1940 AND BEFORE THAT 1893 SO AT THAT TIME THERE WAS NOT ALL THE CONCRETE AND LACK OF TREES AND FOR THE MOST PART WATER FLOWED BACK INTO THE OCEAN. LOW COUNTRY MEANS LOW NOT SUITABLE FOR A LOT OF BUILDING NOW MOST OF IT IS ALSO NOT SUITABLE FOR FARMING ANYMORE BECAUSE AS BEAUFORT COUNTY DIG UP AND ONE PLACE TO REMOVE DIRT IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING IN ONE GRAIN OF SAND AFFECTS EVERYTHING AROUND IT THAT'S THE WAY NATURE WORKS AND I'VE SEEN SALTWATER SEEP IN FROM THE CREEKS AND BEAUFORT DIG DITCHES THAT IS SO DEEP THAT IT BRINGS THE SALTWATER IN SO IT RUINS THE LAND THAT MOST PEOPLE USE FOR PLANTING THAT'S NO LONGER POSSIBLE AROUND HERE AND I SEE IT ON MY PROPERTY WE'RE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME BUILDING CAT ISLAND AS FAR AS THE WATER ON MY PROPERTY THE SALTWATER SO I CAN'T IT FOR PLANTING BOTH FLORIDA AND TEXAS IS NOW HAVE CRACKS UNDER THE OCEAN OTHER STATES ARE ALSO IN DANGER SOUTH CAROLINA YET BUT DEFINITELY NORTH CAROLINA IS THAT WHAT WE'RE BUILDING TOWARDS FOR A FEW MILLIONS WE WILL DESTROY NOT ONLY OUR HOME BUT OUR SURROUNDING AREAS THE.
ANIMALS HAVE NO PLACE TO GO. THE DARES ARE EATING PEOPLE'S PLANTS IN THEIR YARDS BECAUSE.
THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO RUN FREE. WE ARE NOT JUST DESTROYING THE PEOPLE. WE'RE DESTROYING THE LAND WE THE ANIMALS WE'RE DESTROYING EVERYTHING WE TOUCH FOR DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP OURSELVES RIGHT OUT OF BEAUFORT COUNTY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED TO BEAUFORT COUNTY MOVED BECAUSE IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. WELL, EVERYBODY CAN'T LIVE THE COUNTY I'M SORRY.
AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT COME THE WORSE IT'S GOING TO GET. SO MORE MINUTES.
WE NEED TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT HERE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING TO LIVE FOR OUR CHILDREN. WE THE NATIVES WHO ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN OUR IN OUR HOME IS THROWN ASIDE TO WELCOME RICH AND POWERFUL. THE PROPERTY WAS IN A PROTECTED WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED AND THERE WAS NO GOVT FORCES ALLOWED IN THE PRESERVATION AREA SO THE PURCHASE THE LAND INSISTS ON THE ZONING BEING CHANGED IS A SLAP IN THE FACE AND A SIGN OF DISRESPECT FOR THE COMMUNITY . YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO VOTE NO TO THE ZONING CHANGE AND IF THE DEVELOPER INTERESTED IN HELPING THE COMMUNITY THAT VOTE SHOULD NOT CHANGE ANY
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GOODWILL HE HAS FOR THE GULLAH PEOPLE IF HE'S SINCERE. SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND THE PEOPLE ASKED FOR NO GOVT COURSE AND THERE SHOULD BE NO GOLF COURSE.THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DONNA FELKER.
DONNA FELKER ALL RIGHT WILLIE TERRELL TERRELL IT'S REALLY OKAY.
NEXT WOULD BE AGEE AGEE READING WE MAKE THIS QUICK ON EVERYBODY TIRE COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN MEMBERS THAT IS BODY. MY NAME IS WILLIE TERRELL A FATHER HOME OWNER, FORMER EDUCATOR, 24 GRADUATE OF LAW SCHOOL CEO OF WILLIS LOCATED IN THE HEART OF THE NEWLY RECOGNIZED CORNERS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GLOVER. BEFORE I BEGIN I GOT TO I GOT A JUST ONE MAJOR QUESTION AND THIS IS IMPORTANT. I JUST WANT TO LAY IT OUT BEFORE I GET INTO IT. WHY DIDN'T NOBODY. WHY COULDN'T ANYONE? WHY DIDN'T ANYONE FROM SAINT HELENA HAVE THE RESOURCES OR TO BUY PINE ISLAND BECAUSE IT WAS SALE FOR A LONG TIME. I KNOW WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT KEEPING IT POOR BUT A POOR PEOPLE COULD KEEP IT KEEPING IT DOWN SO IT DOESN'T GET TOO EXPENSIVE FOR US.
BUT I WANT TO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADVANCEMENT, HOW COME NOBODY HOW CAN WILLIE TERRELL COME BY PINE ISLAND? SO I'M GONNA GET INTO IT. LET'S GET REAL.
AND I THINK I THINK ALL THE ALL THE SIGNS FOR THE CPO AND ALL THE FOLKS OUT HERE REPRESENTING THE CPO, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S AND I SEE IT AND I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY ARE NOW THIS IS A RHETORICAL BUT I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE FOLKS AS OPPOSED TO CPO IS GOING TO BE A HERITAGE THIS BECAUSE I'LL BE AT THE PAWN AND I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF FACES THAT I SAW UPON THAT CPO SIDE BUT I'M SURE THIS YEAR YOU'LL MAKE IT THROUGH MOST IMPORTANT FESTIVAL ON THE ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GULLAH CORRIDOR. IF I COULD STICK PINE ISLAND.
OH, LET'S JUST GET THE PINE OUT. YEAH.
OKAY. SO OKAY. HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE READ THE HEADLINES OF OUR KIDS BEING SLAUGHTERED? THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE PINE ISLAND HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE RESOURCES IN SOUTH CAROLINA WE ARE NUMBER SIX IN THE NATION FOR GUN VIOLENCE BUT WE'RE 40TH IN EDUCATION. SO WHEN PEOPLE SAY WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING I IT DISTASTEFUL ESPECIALLY AS A FORMER EDUCATOR.
NOW TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, JUST LAST YEAR 56 MORE KIDS LOST THEIR LIVES TO GUN VIOLENCE.
A LOT OF THOSE KIDS SOME OF THOSE KIDS CAME OFF A SAINT HELENA ISLAND WHETHER HE WAS GETTING SHOT OR HE WAS THE SHOOTER. LET'S TALK PINE ISLAND.
WELL, BEFORE I GET THAT, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WOW WOW. THIS COUNCIL KIND OF PLAYS THIS TUG OF WAR WHILE. YOU POSTURE KIDS AS KIDS ARE DYING AND WHEN YOU DENY YOU ALSO DENY HOPE. NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT PINE ISLAND.
PINE ISLAND EXISTED LONG BEFORE DR. FRIPP WAS PLAYGROUNDS FOR RETIREES HAS DOCUMENTED STRUCTURES DATING BACK TO 1904. THIS LAND HAS ALWAYS PRIVATELY HELD AND IF THE CPO LINES WAS DRAWN WITH FIDELITY OR ACCURACY PINE ISLAND REALLY WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN DRAWN IN.
NOW ON A TABLE TONIGHT HAVE THE LARGEST CONTRACT OF BENEFIT IN THE HISTORY OF SAINT HELENA THE LARGEST CONTRACT THAT BENEFIT IN THE HISTORY OF SAINT HELENA. THE ALTERNATIVE A LONG UGLY COURT BATTLE THAT RISK KILLING THE CPO ALTOGETHER AND LEAVING US WITH NOTHING BUT DUST.
LET'S NOT PRETEND TO KNOW DOESN'T END THIS YEAR. IT LAWSUIT APPEALS.
YEARS OF FIGHTING WHILE THE LAWYERS LINE THEIR POCKETS AND OUR PEOPLE GET NOTHING BUT A YES. YES SECURES. MONEY.
SECURED PROTECTION. A YES PROTECTS. THE CPO IS IRONCLAD BENEFITS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. NOW WON'T GET INTO WHAT I WANT TO SAY BECAUSE I'M OUT OF TIME BUT I KIND OF WANT TO APOLOGIZE . ELVIA THE WAY YOU'VE BEEN TREATED DOES NOT REPRESENT EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY IS DISGUSTING WHEN I RIDE BY MYSELF MY COMMUNITY WITH THESE RAGGEDY SIGNS THAT SAY NO GATES, NO GOLF.
NOW I WOULD BE HURT IF I RODE BY AND I SAID NO MOBILE HOMES, NO BASKETBALL COURTS.
I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD BE SEEN HERE SUPPORTING THAT RACIST RHETORIC.
WE ROOT FOR IT AND IT'S NASTY. NOW WHY WE SPEAK IT ON THE VISION LET ME ADDRESS ANOTHER MATTER DIRECTLY. DESPISE THE FACT THAT OUR RESIDENTS FROM GATED COMMUNITIES MANY WHOM I PERSONALLY FRIEND ARE FORCED TO RIDE PAST THE SIGNS AND THESE RESIDENTS MANY OF CARRY THE LION'S SHARE OF PHILANTHROPY, OF DONATIONS, OF CHARITABLE WORK. IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE BIGGEST RECIPIENTS OF THOSE FUNDS AREN'T THE LOUDEST NOR THE LOUDEST CRITICS ARE THE SAME ONES WHO DRIVE TO THE GATE PUT OUT THEIR HANDS AND THEN TURN AROUND AND SPIT ON THE VERY PEOPLE WHO GIVEN THE MOST.
THAT'S HYPOCRISY. THAT'S COWARDICE. IT'S UGLY AND IT NEEDS TO STOP RIGHT HERE. NOW LET ME TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER.
WE ARE VILLAINIZING PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY FOUND A HOME FOR SALE AND BOUGHT IT LEGALLY AND MADE IT. MEN AND WOMEN MANY OF THEM WHITE WHO WORK BUTTS OFF.
THEY EARNED OUR WAY. THEY CHOSE TO INVEST THEIR HARD MONEY RIGHT HERE.
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IT IS STILL LAND AND A CHEAT. ANYONE? THEY PAY FOR IT LAWFULLY AND JUSTLY INSTEAD OF WELCOME AS NEIGHBORS. TOO MANY VOICES TOO MANY VOICES DEBATE HAVE PAINTED THEM AS ENEMIES SIMPLY BECAUSE THEIR SKIN COLOR OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY CHOSE THIS THIS ISN'T HERITAGE PROTECTION. THAT'S HATRED THAT'S UGLY AND IT CUTS BOTH WAYS. THE TRUTH IS THESE RESIDENTS ARE OFTEN SOME OF THE STRONGEST STEWARDS OF THIS ISLAND. MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES. THEY SUPPORT CHARITIES.THEY EMPLOY PEOPLE. THEY DONATE AND YET WE SPIT IN THEIR FACES FOR THE CRIME OF WANTING TO LIVE IN THIS PARADISE. YOU'RE COMING UP TO 5 MINUTES.
COULD YOU ASK ME TO A LITTLE? ALL RIGHT. LET'S TALK HUMAN HATE.
OPPONENTS CRY OUT THAT THIS WILL TURN US INTO HILTON HEAD. BUT HILTON HEAD WASN'T LOST BECAUSE OF CONTRACTS OR AGREEMENT. HEAD WAS LOST BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO CARRIED A CULTURE NO LONGER COULD AFFORD TO LIVE THERE. THEY WERE PRICED OUT, PUSHED OUT MANY TIMES, LEFT WITH NOTHING. DISAGREEMENT IS AN ANTIDOTE TO HOLD HEAD IN PROTECTION SECURES FUNDING. IT GUARANTEES ACCOUNTABILITY AND MAKE SURE OUR CULTURAL BEARS DON'T GET PRICED OUT. THEY GET BOUGHT IN.
NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CPO. THE CPR HAS FAILED FLAT OUT. IT'S BEEN A TOOL OF MANIPULATION PREYING ON VULNERABLE RESIDENTS TO SELL THEM THE LIE THAT NO PRESERVES THE CULTURE WHEN IN REALITY IT JUST PRESERVES POVERTY. WHEN ENACTED SEE HELENA WITH 75% BLACK. TODAY IT'S BARELY 38% AND THAT'S PADDED BECAUSE FOLKS HERE AREN'T NECESSARILY GULLAH. SO PUT IN PLAIN TERMS A CITY SIZE A LOT OF PEOPLE CHEER FOR THE CPO. IT'S LIKE CHEER FOR A TEAM THAT LOSES YEAR AFTER YEAR AND SOMEHOW WE THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO GO TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP. IT WOULD BE FUN.
COMING UP TO 6 MINUTES I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP IT.
WE HAVE PEOPLE I'M A WRAP IT UP YOU SAID. LET ME GO TO THE END.
CONTRACT IS UP SO THE COMMON SENSE IF THERE'S LEFT IN THIS ROOM LEAVE ONE CONCLUSION.
IT KEEPS FOLLOWING IF WE KEEP FOLLOWING THIS BROKEN FORMULA THERE'LL BE NO CULTURE LEFT TO PROTECT. NOW YOU WANT TO WRAP IT UP BUT I'LL BE WAITING HERE SEVEN OUT OF 810 HOW LONG I'LL BE HERE BUT ALL MY KIDS HAVE LEFT. SEE HELENA.
MY KIDS ARE GONE. YOU CAN SAY WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. SO WHERE'S A GROCERY STORE? WHERE'S A CORNER MARKET? WHERE'S THE GAS STATION? WHERE'S THE MOVIE THEATERS? WHERE'S REC? WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. HOW HOW SO MANY PEOPLE COME UP HERE SAY WE'RE GOOD? I'M NOT GOOD. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I JUST BUY FOR THE BAR YORK 2 A.M. I JOIN THAT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO LEAVE SEE HELENA BECAUSE I MAKE AWAY HERE.
THANK YOU, MR. TERRILL. I NEED TO MOVE ON. OH, THANK YOU ALL.
BUT I DO HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE AND I HOPE I MAKE THE RIGHT ONE.
THAT BENEFITS ALL OF US. THANK YOU. A.G. SOLOMONS STILL HERE.
A.G. SOLOMONS NOW HOW ABOUT KIM JOY? KIM JOY.
OKAY HOW ABOUT DANNY COVINGTON ? OH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN.
IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IF YOU FALL WE HAVE TO COME IN. HURRY.
ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. I GOT A COUPLE OF POINTS I WANT TO GET TO YOU IN JUST A FEW SECONDS. LISTEN, THERE'S A BRIEF I WANT TO SAY TO YOU I HADN'T BEEN TOUCHED. DON'T I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO SEE YOU ON YOUR AGENDA.
WE GOT $7 MILLION. IS LION HERE? DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS CULTURAL PROTECTION PRACTICALLY GIVE YOU IS MUCH IS THE ACE BASIN AND YOU GOT TO SHELL OUT ANY MONEY FOR IT ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS WITH YOU CPA DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT OKAY MIGHT NOT BE QUITE AS GOOD DELAY AND TRUST BUT IT DOES PUT A LOT OF PROPERTY NOW OR MAY NOT THINK I KNOW ANYTHING BUT I WILL TELL YOU I DID FIVE TERMS WHEN I WAS COUNTY COUNCIL 27 YEARS OF LAW SAVANNAH COUNCIL SERBIA'S ON HOSPITAL TRUSTEE ON ABOUT EIGHT YEARS OF LAW COMMISSION MR. GLOVER I SERVED ON THE BOARD WITH MR. BILL MCBRIDE WHEN HE WAS THERE THAT'S THE SEAT YOU HAD BEFORE THEIR OWN THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE DONE I KNOW LIKE OH YOU SERVED DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THINGS CHAIRMAN IT IS CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIR IS ONE OF THE THINGS I DID BACK IN THE EIGHTIES WAS SERVED ON THE ACE BASIN TASK FORCE YO OR HIT HARD MY HEART I'M EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS WHEN WE STARTED THAT NOBODY EVER HEARD TELL OF SUCH A THING. NOW I WAS UP IN NAIROBI COUNTY BUT GUESS WHAT THEY'RE STILL RIVER RUNS UP THERE. WE ARE IN A SPACE AND THEY IN ORANGEBURG COUNTY NOW I BOUGHT DOWN HERE MY THREE ACRES IN OH FIVE SO I'VE BEEN HERE 21 YEARS NOW.
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I SWORE WHEN I CAME DOWN HERE I'M DOING A PILOT IT'S NOT GETTING INTERFERING IN IN MORE BUT HERE I AM TONIGHT THIS THIS BROUGHT ME OUT OF RETIREMENT SO TO SPEAK.NOW I HEARD A COUPLE OF THINGS STATED AND I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT IN NOT CORRECT BUT IT MAY BE MISLEADING TO SOME PEOPLE. ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD WAS IS DEVELOPMENT GOING PROVIDE A LOT OF THIS AND THAT NO LAND TAX MONEY AND ALL THIS OF STUFF THAT'S NOT EVEN CORRECT EVIL ABOUT 50 YEARS AGO THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA ME A LICENSE TO OUR PEOPLE AND GREED AND WAR SURE LAND WATER, SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS, RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION AND NOW PRESENTLY I OWN ABOUT 2000 ACRES UNIMPROVED LAND IN FIVE COUNTIES AND I'VE DONE SUBDIVISIONS AND GOLF COURSES AND HERE I STAND TELLING YOU THAT I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT AFTER 50 YEARS OF DOING IT MYSELF WHY DON'T I GO TO SAINT HELENA ISLAND TO BUILD MY RETIREMENT AT AGE 75 I'M HERE.
I STILL GOT FIVE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT RUNNING NOW I HAD ABOUT 47 PEOPLE 50 PEOPLE WORKING FOR ME 2530 YEARS AGO. I'M DOWN TO TWO DOWN 2 TO 4 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT BUT I STILL LIKE TO FIDDLE AROUND A LITTLE BIT. THIS THIS CROWD THAT CAME OUT HERE TONIGHT, IS THIS A LITTLE UNUSUAL FOR YOU IF THIS NORMAL GUESS WHAT I HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION IN ALL YEARS. I'VE NEVER HAD A SITUATION LIKE THIS. AND I WILL SAY TO YOU DID YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF GREAT THING EARLY ON AN ENVIOUS POSITION MILEAGE WISE. BEFORE COUNTY I MADE UP A PICNIC FOR MY HOME. I LIKE IT AND I LIKE SEEING HILL IN PARTICULAR.
IT REMINDS ME OF HOME AND AFTER 5 MINUTES HOUSING I BUILD A LOT OF HOUSES AHEAD AND BUILD A HOUSE IN TWO YEARS. GUESS WHAT? NOBODY KNOWS.
I HADN'T BUILT A HOUSE. SO YOU'RE COMING UP TO 5 MINUTES IF YOU COULD RAMP UP, PLEASE. WE HAVE MORE TO GO FOR RESERVE AND CPO AT IT.
ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE BENJAMIN GLOVER. MR. GLOVER, COME ON DOWN.
MY NAME IS BENJAMIN GLOVER AND HOPEFULLY AT THIS LATE HOUR MY WORDS EVENING WILL GRAB YOU ATTENTION AND HAVE WEIGHT TO IT. I AM ONE OF A FEW REMAINING CPO ORIGINAL DRAFTEES I SERVED FROM 1997 TO 2000 AND WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TONIGHT MY FEW WORDS HOPEFULLY THEY'LL HAVE WEIGHT THE BIG IDEA TONIGHT IS CULTURAL IN INTEGRITY CAUGHT THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW ITS ORIGINAL INTENT .
THE SUPREME COURT USES IT ALL THE TIME. YOU CAN'T COUNT FOR EVERY LITTLE NUANCE SO YOU LOOK AT THE INTERPRETATION IN THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW.
I CAN'T I DON'T HAVE THE TIME MANY OF YOU WEREN'T THERE WHEN I WAS THE CHAIR WE TALKED ABOUT CONSIDERED THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE AND WE ALSO LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY AS WE DRAFTED CULTURE INTEGRITY THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW EXTENDED THE BARRIER ISLANDS ALSO DON'T LOOK THE LOOPHOLES IS THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW THE INTENT OF WHAT DRAFTED AND HOPEFULLY I GRAB YOUR ATTENTION TONIGHT I KNOW IT'S LONG INTENT TO PROTECT THE CULTURAL SPIRIT OF SAINT WAS
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THE ORIGINAL INTENT HISTORY HAS PROVEN IT AND DON'T LET HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF.JAMES ALLEN JOHN'S HILTON HEAD GOLF COURSES GATED COMMUNITIES, HIGHER TAXES.
WE DISCUSS GROWTH REGARDLESS OF WHAT PEOPLE MAY THINK WE WERE NOT FOR NO GROWTH BUT PARTICULAR GROWTH. THAT'S WHY WE STATED THROUGH DISCUSSION PROHIBITING GATED COMMUNITIES, GOLF COURSES, RESORT DEVELOPMENT, NATURAL. IF A CITY EXTENDED ACROSS THE RIVER A DEVELOPMENT LADY'S ISLAND THE SPIRIT INTENT OF THEIR AUDIENCE THEY COULDN'T FORESEE THE GROWTH IN THE PASS. BUT LATER ON I.E. THEY EXTENDED AND THEY MOVED AND THE SPIRIT OF THEIR ORIGINAL INTENT AND THEY MOVED THE RIVER. WELL SAY HELENA IS THE SAME HERE ACKNOWLEDGE ORIGINAL INTENT OF WHAT WE DRAFTED. I WAS THERE 97 TO 2000.
UPHOLD AND ENFORCE THE SPIRIT OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF CPO AS DRAFTED AND I SIGNED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS FOR BEFORE EVENT ELVIS LESS MEN AND NEXT WOULD BE EBONY HOLMES. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS SITUATION SINCE 2023 SO I'VE SEEN A LOT IT'S HAPPENED IN THAT TIME AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THE SAME ARGUMENTS TONIGHT AND I'VE ALSO WATCHED THEM EVOLVE. ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT'S BEEN MADE IS THAT THEY DON'T FOR YOU TO DESTROY YOUR WAY OF LIFE. THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO DESTROY A CULTURE EXTINCTION VIRUS AND SOME OF THE DIFFERENT TERMS THAT IT USED.
BUT IT WAS COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER THAT SAID THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE SPORT OF GOLF, THIS IS ABOUT THE NEXT. I THINK ALL OF YOU WITH THE COMMON SENSE THAT GOD GAVE YOU AND THE RECOGNITION, THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU'VE EARNED AND COLLECTED OVER YOUR TIME ON THIS COUNCIL, YOU KNOW THAT A GOLF COURSE IS NOT GOING TO DESTROY A CULTURE.
YOU KNOW THAT A LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IS NOT GOING TO ELIMINATE WAY OF LIFE.
AND AS MR. GLOVER SAID IT WAS ABOUT THE NEXT GUY. THAT WAS THE CONCERN WHICH THE NEXT ARGUMENT THAT YOU'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT WHETHER IT'S CALLED PRECEDENT OR WHETHER IT'S CALLED DOMINO EFFECT, WHETHER IT'S CALLED PANDORA'S BOX YOU'VE BEEN PATIENT IF YOU'VE HEARD THAT BUT YOU'VE HEARD IT PROBABLY 40 TIMES. FIRST OF ALL, UNDER SOUTH CAROLINA LAW LEGISLATE DECISIONS LIKE YOU WOULD MAKE ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR ABOUT A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. THOSE ARE LEGISLATIVE DECISIONS. I KNOW THAT YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL HAS TOLD YOU THAT THOSE DO NOT SET PRECEDENT. THOSE ARE UNIQUE. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT YOU'RE EMPOWERED AND ALLOWED TO DO WHEN YOU APPLY THOSE CRITERIA THE NINE CRITERIA FOR A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT NO TWO PROPERTIES FIT THOSE NINE CRITERIA THE SAME EACH ONE OF THOSE ANALYZES IS ABSOLUTELY. NO OTHER PROPERTY CAN COME FORWARD AND THOSE NINE CRITERIA THE SAME WAY. THERE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE UNIQUE THOUGH NOT ONLY THE STATE LAWS SAY THAT THOSE ARE LEGISLATED BUT ALSO THE CRITERIA MAKE THEM UNIQUE THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BE THE SAME. THAT'S POWER THAT YOU HAVE NO ONE SITUATION SETS A PRECEDENT FOR ANOTHER. YOU'VE BEEN TOLD WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT THERE'S THIRD OPTION THE PROPERTY NOT FOR SALE.
THERE ARE THE TWO OPTION ONE IS TO DO SOMETHING THAT SENSE THAT PROVIDES THESE BENEFITS AND DOES ALL THESE THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY WHILE FEWER HOUSES ALL THINGS THAT MR. DUKES SAID.
THE OTHER OPTION IS A RESIDENCE SUBDIVISION ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE HELENA IS WHAT IT IS. THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO.
YOU CAN'T BUILD A SHOPPING MALL . YOU CAN'T BUILD A SPORTS STADIUM RIGHT HERE BUT A HOSPITAL THERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
YOU CAN BUILD THE HOUSES OR YOU CAN DO A PLAN THAT HAS LESS IN IT.
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AND PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT MATH. THEY THINK THE MATH DOESN'T MATH.LET'S JUST SAY THAT YOU HAVE 150 HOMES INSTEAD OF HUNDRED AND 49 AND YOU SELL THEM FOR $2 MILLION APIECE ON THREE ACRES. $300 MILLION. THE LANDOWNER PAID 18 MILLION FOR THE PROPERTY. THAT LEAVES $282 MILLION LEFT. IF THIS WERE ABOUT PROFIT, IF THIS WERE ABOUT GREED, IF THIS WERE ABOUT BEING VIRUS ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE HEARD IF THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS ABOUT, WOULDN'T SOMEBODY BE CHASING THE $282 MILLION? AND I THINK THEY'LL BE SOME MARGIN LEFT AFTER YOU GET DONE .
IF THAT PERSON WERE SO GREEDY AND SO SO SELFISH, WOULD THEY BE OFFERING $11 MILLION TO DO ALL THESE THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY OR WOULD THEY JUST BE GOING AND BUILDING AND SELLING 150 HOUSES? HEARD THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN WHAT THEY HAVE AND THEY'VE SPOKEN FROM BOTH SIDES BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN SITUATION NOW SAINT HELENA HAS 20,000 PEOPLE. YOUR COUNTY HAS 200,000 PEOPLE. HAVE YOU HEARD FROM ALL OF THEM? YOU HEARD PEOPLE SAY WELL, WE DON'T THINK WE DON'T WANT WE DON'T WANT THAT. I KNOW THAT ONE LADY THAT SAID WE DIDN'T WANT ANY THING OR HER ROOF IS PROBABLY FINE FOR IS PROBABLY NOT ABOUT TO FALL IN WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER 200,000 PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY? SOME OF THEM NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SOME OF THEM NEED ASSISTANCE. SOME HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THEIR PROPERTY SITUATION.
THEY NEED HELP. ARE ALL 200,000 THOSE PEOPLE SAYING WE DON'T WANT THIS HELP ,WE DON'T WANT THIS SORT OF SOLUTION? THEY HAD SO THEN WHEN YOU VOTED TO NEGOTIATE WHAT HAPPENED THEN ? YEAH, THERE WERE THREATS.
THERE WERE INTIMATE THERE WAS INTIMIDATION. YOU ALL KNOW IT.
YOU ALL IT. YOU'VE ALL SEEN IT HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO DO WHAT YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO. SOME PEOPLE. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND I WON'T GO OVER MY TIME MADAM CHAIR LOOK AT WHO'S TALKING ABOUT THE MERITS BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE ASKED WELL DON'T LET THEM RUIN THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THE SEPTIC TANKS OFF, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN AUTOBAHN CERTIFIED GOLF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS STOCKS, LESS HOUSES. WELL, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL MERITS ANYMORE THEN WE JUST GOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO REZONINGS THAT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ENTER IN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT THOSE ARE ILLEGAL OR THOSE ARE ULTRAVIOLENCE. THAT'S ALL UNTRUE. I KNOW I'VE BEEN SUPER PATIENT WITH THIS PROCESS BUT THIS IS A NEW PROPOSAL. MR. CUNNINGHAM MADE A MOTION TO SAY LET'S CONTINUE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THESE NEGOTIATIONS THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE NOT DONE.
THIS PROCESS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE CITIZENS THAT SUPPORT THIS.
YOU HAVE CITIZENS THAT NEED THESE BENEFITS AND YOU NEED TO DO THINGS THAT ARE INNOVATIVE RATHER THAN STICKING WITH EMOTION RATHER THAN STICKING WITH BUZZWORDS, THEMES YOU THINK ABOUT RESPECT THAT INVOLVES ALL OF US. NOW WE GOING TO RESPECT EVERYBODY ENOUGH TO LOOK AT THESE OPPORTUNITIES SET ASIDE EMOTION TO SET ASIDE THOSE NOISE AND DO WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN EMPOWERED AND ELECTED TO DO.
AND WHEN YOU DO THAT I THINK DECISION WILL COME CLEAR FOR YOU AND I THINK THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNITIES. THANK YOU. EBONY HOLMES COMING DOWN TO THE HOMESTRETCH HERE. EBONY HOLMES. OKAY.
THE LAST PERSON THE WINNER IS, KITTY GREEN. IS KITTY STILL HERE.
SHE WOMACK I'M SORRY, IT'S KITTY GREEN HERE. OH, OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. WE'LL WAIT FOR YOU TO COME SHE'S MY LAST SPEAKER AND THEN I WILL REVERT TO MR. FOR ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE. MADAM VICE CHAIR I'D ASK FOR CLARIFICATION IF MR. LASTMAN SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT BECAUSE HE IS ONE OF HIS ATTORNEYS. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SPOKE ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER.
YOU DIDN'T IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS HIS ATTORNEY WE FIGURED IT OUT. BUT I STILL HAVE TO GIVE MR. DUKES BACK TO COUNTER HIS COUNTER HIS? IS THAT WHAT THAT YOU COULD DETERMINE THAT COUNTED AS HIS RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS .
OKAY. I'M SORRY. YOU GO AHEAD AND LET'S MARK GREEN PAPER AND TO COUNTY COUNCIL I WANT TO FIRST COMMEND YOU THAT YOU'VE BEEN VOTING I THINK THE WAY THE PEOPLE WANT YOU TO VOTE. I AM CONCERNED MAINLY BECAUSE IF PINE ISLAND IS ALLOWED TO NOT OBEY THE CPO AND OTHER GROUPS OF DEVELOPERS COME IN
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THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING AND I THINK THAT'S A DANGER THAT YOU WOULD SET PRECEDENCE THAT THEY COULD NOT OBEY THE LAW THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE. THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS SAYING AND I OWN THE OLDEST GIRL TOUR IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL TOUR WE'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR 35 YEARS BUT ST IS ONE OF THE ISLANDS THAT STATE ISOLATED AND INDEPENDENT FROM THE WAR UNTIL 1927. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AS TRYING TO BE DONE AND IT'S SAID THAT WE DEPEND WE SHOULD DEPEND UPON A GOLF COURSE. IT'S INSULTING AND THE VISION, THE PEOPLE AND THE PLAN THAT TOOK PLACE, THE PRESERVATION SHOULD GO THROUGH PAYING SCHOOL AND CENTER ALLOWED PEOPLE LIKE ME TO STUDY DEVELOPMENT. WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT SEA ISLANDS, THE LARGER ISLANDS AND COMPARE IT TO SAINT HELENA AND . WE SAW HOW THE AFRICANS WERE ABLE TO SURVIVE FROM 1865 UNTIL 1927 IN DEPENDENT AND THE SCHOOL EVOLVED AND MANY OF THE LOCALS EVEN WERE SKILLED EMPLOYEES LEARNING CARPENTRY BUILDERS.IT'S KIND OF INSULTING TO ASSUME THAT ALL WE NEED TO DEPEND UPON IS A GOLF COURSE.
THE PEOPLE'S VOICES BEING HEARD. I LOOKED AROUND THE ROOM EARLIER AND I SAW DIVERSE OF PEOPLE AND IT APPEARED TO ME JUST FROM THE VISION THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AGREE WHETHER THEY LIVED ON PHILLIP ISLAND AND HARBOR ISLAND AND WHEREVER THAT THEY WERE IN BECAUSE WHEN WE STARTED THE PRESERVATION SCHOOL OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS EVEN THOUGH HILTON HEAD WAS DEVELOPED LIKE WAS IT LOST THIS SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND THAT'S THE BLESSING OF THIS AREA IS THAT WE STILL FUNCTION IN A COMMUNITY ATMOSPHERE. PEOPLE CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER. YOU CAN STILL WALK DOWN PARTS OF THE ISLAND AND GO TO THE BEACH AND AND SIT OUT THERE AND AS THE SUN GOES DOWN THESE CLOSED GATED COMMUNITY LIMITS THE AREAS ON THOSE ISLANDS AND THESE PRIVATE GAY AND YOU DON'T COMMUNE WITH ONE ANOTHER AS WELL AS YOU DO HERE ON SAINT HELENA.
PEOPLE KNOW ONE ANOTHER. THE OTHER THING ON HILTON HEAD AND PHILLIP ISLAND MOST PEOPLE RENT OUT THEIR PROPERTY AND SO THERE'S NO SENSE OF COMMUNITY. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOUR NEIGHBOR IS GOING TO TOMORROW, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.
SO I COMMEND YOUR GLOVER HIS VOTE BECAUSE HE REPRESENTS ME. YOU ALL REPRESENT SOMEBODY IN THIS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T LOSE THAT POWER TO DECIDE HOW WANT TO LIVE. AND SO I THINK IT'S EXTREME IMPORTANT HOW THIS VOTE GOES DOWN BECAUSE IF PARANOIA IS ALLOWED TO ESCAPE AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN DEVELOPMENT, THEN THERE IS NO SAFEGUARD. WELL, THE PEOPLE THEN WE'RE IN TROUBLE BECAUSE YOU OUR VOICES AND SO FAR WE'VE BEEN EXCITED, WE'VE BEEN WINNING. THE OTHER THING IS THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD TO GO THREE OR FOUR VOTES AND THIS THING KEEPS GOING ON AND EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND THERE'S A NEW WAY FOR THIS COMPANY TO EXCLUDE THE LAW.
YOU'RE IN 5 MINUTES IF YOU COULD SUM IT UP TO WHAT YOU FINISH.
I CAN TALK ALL. RIGHT. THANK YOU.
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BUT I'M THROUGH. OKAY, WE DO ONE PERSON I COULDN'T READ HIS WRITING WALTER MACK. MAYBE NEXT TIME IF YOU COULD READ IT BUT COME ON UP IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. I'LL ADD YOU BACK IN. WALTER MACK.HELLO, EVERYBODY. OKAY, YOU'RE UP. I'M ON.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMMEND BOARD THE COUNTY COUNCIL TO WORK WITH ALL THE CONSERVATION AGENCY AND THE CITIZENS PURPORTEDLY CEO TO GET IT REALLY APPRECIATE? YOU WORKING WITH US TO PUT THIS CPO TOGETHER NOT ONLY TO DEVELOP A CEO BUT MAKE IT A LAW AND A LAW IN THE LAW SO KNOW IT UP TO YOU HAVE TO STICK TO YOUR GUNS YOU HAVE TO MORE OR LESS DO WHAT THE LAW COULD DO AND AND NOT PERMIT WITH THE GOVERNMENT TO HAPPEN A CUT I'M TELLING YOU EVERYBODY IS WATCHING LOCALLY STATEWIDE FEDERAL NATIONAL MAYBE EVEN GLOBALLY THEY ARE WATCHING TO WHAT YOU WOULD DO BECAUSE YOU HAVE TIME NOW REALLY DO SOMETHING THAT IMPORTANT IN HISTORY. YOU HAVE A TIME TO SHOW DEVELOPER THAT YOU CAN SAVE CULTURE OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLE AND YET PROVIDE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN MAINTAIN THEIR CULTURE AND HISTORY. NOW YOU DID A GOOD JOB IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER THING THAT YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO PRESERVE THE CULTURE AND THIS IS OUR HOME. I'VE BEEN TAUGHT WHEN YOU HAVE A HOME YOU DON'T LET OTHER PEOPLE COME IN THERE AND MESS IT UP. WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT . I HEARD SOME ADDITIVE THAT THAT DEVELOPERS WANT TO GIVE AND USUALLY PEOPLE WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY THEY COME IN THE COMMUNITY SAID WHAT'S YOUR NEEDS OR WANT? I SEE A LOT OF STUFF THAT ALREADY NOBODY ASKED ME ANYTHING SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT TO WHAT I DID AND HOW WOULD A HOW WOULD A PARALLEL ON THE ALAMO RULE HELPED ME THROUGH THROUGH MY CULTURE AND WONDER SPRINGING THIS THING AND TROUBLING THING THAT I HEARD IDEA OF PLACING A SEWAGE SYSTEM ON A BARRIER ISLAND.
WE DO LIVE IN A HURRICANE PATH. I GUESS EVERYBODY KNOW THAT A CAT THREE OR CAT FOUR WOULD DAMAGE OR DESTROY THIS WE DO IS PLAN AND JUST IMAGINE THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER ALONG MORGAN CREEK IT'S IN THE SONG AN UP AND DOWN THE EAST BEAT IT SO I DON'T KNOW THAT GOING WORK SECONDLY WE WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT ADDED GOLF COURSE IT KNOW CALLED TO GOOGLE AND GULF NEWS THERE ARE 460,000 ACRES OF LAND IN BEAUFORT COUNTY 60% OF THAT IS MARSH WATER THREE AND RIGHT NOW THERE 67 THE GOLF COURSE IN BEAUTIFUL COUNTY AND THAT'S ABOUT 10,500 ACRES OF GOLF COURSE. WE NEED MORE THAN THAT THAT'S MORE GOLF COURSE THAN LAND WE HAVE FOR FARMING ALL THAT WE HAVE BOTH FOR PRODUCTION. SO WHEN IS ENOUGH ENOUGH? WELL, I JUST I'M JUST CONFUSED PERPLEXED ABOUT THE SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT BY PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE ME. I PUT A SYMBOL OF THAT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT BUT ALL I CAN SAY THEY NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR I'M TALKING INDIRECTLY NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND IF THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT ABOUT PRESERVING THEIR CULTURE, THEIR HISTORY, WHAT WOULD YOUR ANCESTOR SAY TO WHEN YOU TRIED TO SUPPORT A PROJECT THIS AND THAT'S FOR ALL THE PERSON IN THEIR OLD SAYING YOU BETTER REMEMBER WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
AND SECONDLY FOR THE YOUNG OF PEOPLE YOU NEED TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR ALSO BECAUSE ONE THE THINGS HISTORY WILL BE WRITTEN ABOUT YOUR PART YOU PLAYED IN EITHER CHURCH PRESERVE THIS CULTURE TRYING TO DAMAGE THIS CULTURE WHAT WILL YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN SAY ABOUT THE PART YOU PLAYED AND I ALWAYS HEARD OF GENERATION WELL I HEARD A COUPLE OF TIME PEOPLE WE HAVE GENERATIONAL, WE HAVE OUR LAND, WE HAVE OUR CULTURE IF THAT'S MARKETED IN THE RIGHT
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WAY WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE GENERATIONAL WEALTH DEVELOPING NOT HERE GIVE YOU GENERATIONAL WEALTH. THEY HAD TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE BOTTOM LINE SO I JUST WANT TO END THIS BY SAYING THAT YOU KNOW, UP THERE SOME DEATHS AS JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I JUST NEED FOR THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE A HISTORIC EFFORT AND SUPPORT AND ENFORCE YOUR CPO LAW THAT YOU'VE CREATED .THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HALBERT, COULD YOU SPEAK IN THE MIKE AND REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE WHEN MR. LESS WOMEN SPOKE? YEAH.
MR. LASSMAN IS ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING THE. HIS COMMENTS SHOULD COUNT AS A REBUTTAL TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE HE IS ON THE TEAM REPRESENTING THEM.
HE LED THE APPLICATION TWO YEARS AGO AND HE'S LEADING THE LITIGATION IN FEDERAL COURT AND THE APPEAL HERE AND HIS RESPONSE WAS DIRECTLY CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WAS HERE BEFORE US SO I JUST THOUGHT SO. I WILL NOT WE WILL NOT FURTHER REBUTTAL IF IF COUNSEL WANTED FURTHER REBUTTAL THEY SHOULD LIMIT IT TO LIKE NO MORE THAN 2 MINUTES BECAUSE MR. LUSKIN TOOK 9 MINUTES ON THAT AND YES, HE JUST AN HOUR WHEN HE STARTED AND HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN 20 MINUTES I'LL DO YOU WANT BETTER DO IT IN 30 SECONDS BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. MADAM CHAIRMAN MADAM CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE AUDIENCE NO MORE CLAPPING LITTLE HOUR VERY LATE. ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT ONE MINUTE HERE. PLEASE LET ME HAVE 10 SECONDS. THAT WAS NOT STATED BEFORE HE SPOKE. IF YOU KNEW THAT, BRIAN. WE SHOULD HAVE STOPPED HIM FROM SPEAKING AND MADE IT CLEAR AHEAD OF TIME THAT'S ON ON US. WE SHOULD HAVE ENDED THAT BEFORE HE STARTED SPEAKING TO MAKE THAT CLEAR A NAME WAS ON A LIST.
WE SHOULD HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR IF WE KNEW THAT WHEN HE CAME UP TO SPEAKING WHEN HIS NAME WAS ON THAT LIST YOU SHOULD HAVE TOLD US AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT THEY COULD KNOW.
I DON'T THINK MR. HUBBARD KNEW HIS NAME WAS ON THE LIST. OKAY, MR. DOUGLAS, I THINK WE NEED TO LET MR. DO LET'S GO MINUTES NOW THANK THANK YOU SO I APPRECIATE IT I JUST WANTED TO WRAP THIS BY GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT WHAT HAS COME TO THE FORE IN THIS AND IT'S A LOT OF WHAT HAS COME THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THERE ARE A LOT OF GENERALIZED GRIEVANCES WHICH WERE STATED AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND THERE'S CONCERNS BUT WHAT CONTINUE TO BE SAID BY BOTH SIDES IS THAT BOTH WANT LESS ON SAINT HELENA WE HAVE HEARD THAT WE HAVE LISTENED TO COUNSEL AND WE HAVE PROVIDED A PLAN WITH LESS BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT ALSO PROVIDES TRANSFORMATIONAL HELP TO EVERYONE IN COUNTY. SO THERE'S LOCAL SIZED RESTRICTIONS AND REDUCTIONS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY MOVING FORWARD FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE COUNTY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. OKAY. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO HAVE MR. CUNNINGHAM RESTATE THE MOTION SO EVERYONE KNOWS IS THERE ANY QUESTION FROM COUNSEL OR DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? YES. I MEAN WE WOULD LIKE TO RESTATE THE MOTION FIRST. CAN WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? PARDON ME PLEASE? AND YOU ANNOUNCED THAT YOU'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, SORRY. I OFFICIALLY CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING YET ONE WHATEVER TIME IT IS 1:18 A.M. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. MR. CUNNINGHAM JUST TO RESTATE WHAT WE DID SIX AND A HALF HOURS AGO, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVED THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN PINE ISLAND PROPERTY HOLDINGS LLC AND COUNTY PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE LAWS SECTION SIX, DASH 31 DASH 30 WITH THE UNDERSTANDING NEGOTIATIONS CONTINUE BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND APPLICANT TO ATTEMPT REACH TERMS WHICH ARE ACCEPTABLE TO BOTH PARTIES AND WHICH PROVIDE CLEAR ADEQUATE AND ENFORCEABLE MEASURES WHILE REMAINING CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE . ALL OTHER COUNTY ORDINANCES.
ALL EVERYONE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT.
ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL OR THROUGH ALL SECONDED A SECOND CHAIR? YES, GO AHEAD, MR. CUNNINGHAM LIVE ON THE STREETS. THANK YOU.
JUST VERY BRIEFLY THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS WE HEARD FROM MANY OF YOU HOW MUCH YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS I'VE MET JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE OF YOU HERE AND SOME OF YOU
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MULTIPLE TIMES. AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU FOR EDUCATION AND THE HISTORY AND ALL. AND I GOT TO TELL YOU THIS IS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST VOTES I'M EVER GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE ON THIS. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND WHAT WE DID FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS.SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. MADAM CHAIRMAN.
YES, I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS MOTION. IT WILL BECAUSE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE CODE AND THE THE PURPOSES OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE ANYWAY . MR. LAWSON ANYTHING? NO, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO VOTE YES JUST SO WE CAN CONTINUE THE NEGOTIATIONS IS PART OF OF LAND AND HAVING THE RIGHT LAND BUT AGAIN THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP BUT AGAIN WE'RE GOING I'M A LAND RIGHTS SO AT THIS TIME THIS IS OUR FIRST READING SO I AM PROBABLY GOING TO VOTE YES JUST TO KEEP NEGOTIATING TO SEE HOW FAR WE GET AND TO SEE HOW CLOSE THERE'S ANY TIME MOST CAN GET TO IT. MR. PASSMAN, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT QUESTION? NOW MISS BROWN MISS BROWN COMMENT OR QUESTION.
OKAY. MR. BARTHOLOMEW. NO, NO.
THIS OUR. MR. CUNNINGHAM. I'M ON YOU KNEW THAT ANSWER? NO, I DON'T. SIX AND A HALF LATERS AND WE'RE STILL HERE.
YEAH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS. AFTER 5 HOURS OF LISTENING RESPECTFULLY OF US UP HERE WHERE I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID MR. BROWN SIGNED CONSISTENCY. I THINK IT'S PERFECT. I REALLY DO.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SAID. WHAT DO VALUE MORE? WE DON'T WANT TO BE SAVED SAVED YET. TIME AND TIME AGAIN WE HAVE CONTINUE TO COME TO COUNTY COUNCIL AND ASK FOR THINGS FOR ST HELENA ISLAND OR NEEDS THAT AREN'T BEING MET. THAT'S NOT CONSISTENCY. JESSE WHITE'S LETTER DONE IN 2021 FOR CHECHESSEE CLEARLY DOES STATE THAT AN ISLAND OR A GOLF COURSE IS FOR A RURAL COMMUNITY AND MAINTAINS KEEPING IT ROYAL. THAT'S NOT CONSISTENCY.
WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE BLUFFTON AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE HILTON HEAD BUT WE WANT THE AMENITIES OF BLUFFTON AND WE WANT THE AMENITIES AT HILTON HEAD.
THAT'S NOT CONSISTENCY. MS. MAJOR I LOVE EVERY SINGLE TIME COME UP HERE.
I REALLY DO. YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE THE EXACT SAME IN MINE ACROSS COUNTY WIDE AND THAT REALLY IS OUR YOUTH AND THE LACK OF SUPPORT IN OUR YOUTH.
TIME AND TIME AGAIN NOT JUST IN SAINT HELENA BUT ACROSS THE COUNTY.
IT'S PART OF THE REASON I QUIT TEACHING AND RAN FOR COUNTY COUNCIL WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TEACHERS WERE TAKING CARE OF TO SUPPORT OUR YOUTH. MANY OF US HAVE BEEN ACCUSED UP HERE BEING PAID OR TAKING BACKDOOR DEALS. I'D LOVE TO SEE A FACT THAT IS PROVEN BECAUSE I CAN PROMISE YOU I HAVEN'T TAKEN A DIME FROM ANYBODY NOR WILL I EVER.
SO MAKING THAT ACCUSATION ON SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T GO FREELY.
YOU'RE PUTTING SLANDER ON SOMEONE'S NAME. WE WERE TOLD TO STAY IN OUR DISTRICTS THAT WE REPRESENT. SO MY QUESTION IS DOES THAT MEAN THE FUNDS THAT ARE RAISED BY OUR DISTRICT SHOULD STAY THERE TOO? I THINK NOT.
I THINK WE'RE A WHOLE COMMUNITY AND WE REPRESENT EVERYBODY. THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN THE LAST TEN YEARS FROM 2013 TO 2023 HAS RAISED $37 MILLION IN ROAD AND TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. LOVE TO SEE WHERE WE SPENT $37 MILLION IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ON ROADS. I CAN TELL YOU THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
SO WHERE DID THAT MONEY GO ACROSS THE COUNTY? WE DIDN'T JUST KEEP IT IN MY DISTRICT IS THIS CPO REALLY HELPING THAT COMMUNITY? IS QUESTION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY YES. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY NO GO BACK AND FORTH BUT STATISTICS DON'T LIE. THE CPO CURRENTLY THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN I DO NOT THERE'S YOU CAN'T ARGUE THE FACTS IT IS CURRENTLY HURTING. ST HELENA ISLAND WHEN MULTIPLE PEOPLE STATE FACTS THAT I ALREADY HAD WRITTEN DOWN AHEAD OF TIME AND I EVEN WE TALKED ABOUT WE TALKED ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS WHETHER IT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF PROPERTY OWNED,
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THE PERCENTAGE OF PROPERTY SOLD OR THE CRIME RATE IN SAINT HELENA OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES? I WANT THOSE THINGS TO CHANGE. I WANT THOSE THINGS TO BE FIXED WE HAVE PEOPLE UP HERE ALL THE TIME. MR. WILL SMITH IS ALWAYS UP HERE BEGGING FOR US TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY PASSIONATELY AS HE SHOULD BE.SO LET'S JUST SAY WE DO NOTHING . LET'S JUST SAY WE VOTE NO.
THEN WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE WE GOING TO DO TO HELP SAINT HELENA AND TO FIX THE ISSUES OF THEIR IS TIME AND TIME AGAIN PEOPLE TO US AND SAY THEY WANT SOMETHING DONE.
WE WANT SOMETHING DONE WE WANT SOMETHING DONE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE MAYBE THIS IS STEP ONE IN DOING SOMETHING. MAYBE IT IS. MAYBE IT ISN'T.
I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS THE RIGHT ANSWER BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT PEOPLE WANT IT PROVIDED I PUT MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH WAS WHEN I SAID I SUPPORTED WORKFORCE HOUSING AND I SAID NO MATTER WHERE IT HAPPENS I DON'T CARE AND I MADE SURE IT HAPPENED RIGHT IN MY DISTRICT AND I HAD PEOPLE PUSH BACK ON IT BUT I SAID I RAN ON A PLATFORM THAT PUSHED WORKFORCE HOUSING AND I PUT IT RIGHT THERE ON BUCKWALTER THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON JUST APPROVED IT.
I'LL BACK UP THE THINGS THAT I SAY. SO THE REASON I POINT THESE OUT IS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE IN CONSISTENCY. I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION. I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOME TYPE OF CHANGE FOR THE YOUTH NOT ONLY IN SAINT HELENA BUT ACROSS COUNTY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE FAILING THEM AND WE'RE FAILING THEM BAD OR FAILING IN OUR EDUCATION. WE'RE FAILING WITH THEIR OPPORTUNITIES. THEY ARE LEAVING LEFT AND RIGHT.
THEY WERE LEAVING LEFT AND RIGHT WHEN I GRADUATED I GREW UP HERE TOO I WENT TO SCHOOL HERE I WENT TO COLLEGE HERE AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH IN COLLEGE WITH THEY ALL LEFT MY BIGGEST FEAR AND I HOPE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN I REALLY DON'T IS THE CPO DESIGNED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYED IN THE FAMILY THEY CAN CONTINUE PASS IT DOWN PASSED DOWN PASS DOWN WHICH I LOVE AND THAT IS THE GOAL OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE NEXT GENERATION HAS NO JOB AND NO OPPORTUNITY AND THEY WANT TO STAY HERE.
THEY DO END UP SELLING IT. THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF BALANCE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH PEOPLE TO WANT TO STAY JOBS WILL CHANGE JOBS THAT EXIST TODAY DID EXIST 20 YEARS AGO.
THEY DID IT. NOBODY EVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THERE WERE THEM THAT THE TYPE OF JOBS THAT WE HAVE NOW IT EXISTS. SO I WOULD ASK OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THIS ISN'T A YES VOTE TODAY. IT'S BAN THE CPO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS. WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THIS PROPERTY WE'RE SHORTCHANGING OURSELVES IF WE END IT TODAY AND NOT CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT BEST SUITS SAINT HELENA AND ALL OF YOU FOR COUNTY AND PUT THIS TOOL IN PLACE NOW IT'S MR. CARSON'S TURN. WE PUT THIS TOOL IN PLACE TO USE TO DO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. WE CANNOT CHANGE THE PADS THAT ALREADY EXIST ACROSS THIS COUNTY. TRUST BLUFFTON TRIED.
I CAN'T. I GOT 7000 MORE HOMES COMING. THERE'S NOT A DANG THEY CAN DO BECAUSE OF THE MISTAKES DONE 20 YEARS AGO. LET'S NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE.
ALL RIGHT, MR. DAWSON ANYTHING I DON'T COUNCIL LONG ENOUGH TO SEE PROPERTIES OF ZONE OF ZONE SEEN DOWN ZONE. I'VE SEEN A MOVE AS SUBMITTED BUT NEVER IN MY 20 YEARS ON COUNCIL HAVE I SEEN A THE DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE ATTEMPT WAS MADE TO PULL THE ZONING DESIGNATION OFF THE PROPERTY THIS IS THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED. I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH AND SO IS CPO IS THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ON THIS PROPERTY IS ZONE T TO RULE WITH THE CPO ADDED TO IT AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT PROPERTY AS ZONE SO I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST I'M WHAT I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST MIKE ALLEN YES. MR. OR MRS. MCCALLUM YEAH.
THANK YOU, LARRY. MIKE ALLEN DISTRICT TEN FROM THAT FAR AWAY LAND IN HILTON HEAD SINCE THE CPO ORDINANCE WAS ENACTED 25 YEARS AGO, NO COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION HAS ISSUED A DECISION INDICATING THAT THAT ORDINANCE IS EITHER UNLAWFUL OR UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THE DECISION HERE TONIGHT IS ONE THAT MUST BE MADE BY COUNTY COUNCIL AND THAT DECISION MUST BE MADE WITHIN A LEGAL FRAMEWORK.
THE COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE RULES ARE CURRENTLY PLACE LEGAL FRAME THAT LEGAL FRAMEWORK INCLUDES ZONING ORDINANCES AND LAND USE
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REGULATIONS ALONG WITH SOUTH CAROLINA THAT SET THE REQUIRED STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES FOR MAKING LAND DECISIONS IN THE COUNTY. COUNTY COUNCIL MUST DECIDE WHETHER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CPO.I BELIEVE MY REVIEW OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE SHOW THAT THE REQUESTED ACTIONS BY THE OWNER OF PINE ISLAND ARE IN FACT INCOMPATIBLE USES ON SAINT HELENA AND THAT THOSE ENCAMPED LAND USES WOULD BE IN FACT DESTRUCTIVE AND EROSIVE TO THE GULLAH CULTURE. I BELIEVE THE ONLY ACTION FORWARD FOR ME IS TO VOTE NO TO THE MOTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE AND IS PRESENTLY ON THE FLOOR. ALL RIGHT.
THANK. ALL RIGHT. SO WE THAT EVERYONE'S ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A FINAL COMMENT WE CAN GO ONE MORE ROUND, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
YES, MR. GLOVER. YES THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND I APPRECIATE THE MADE BY MY COLLEAGUE MR. CUNNINGHAM. I WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEST FOR ST HELENA THE CITIZENS SHOULD DETERMINE THAT AND THEY HAVE BASICALLY SAID THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF CITY THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THEY PREFER THEY WILL COME FORTH WITH THAT BUT AT THIS TIME HERE A GOLF COURSE WHATEVER HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PHRASE IS NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF SEA AT THIS TIME AND I APPRECIATE HIS CONCERN FOR SAYING ONLY I HE WILL SUPPORT EFFORTS COMING FORWARD OR STAKEHOLDER BUT THIS IS NOT BOASTING HOW ANYONE'S FINAL COMMENT. MR. CUNNINGHAM IF I MAY REBUTTAL. YES, MA'AM. I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING WHATEVER IS BROUGHT FORWARD FOR ST HELENA OR ANY OTHER AREA BUT JUST LIKE I STATED TWO WEEKS AGO YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. WE VOTED NO TO RAMSEY FARMS OUT THE HOMES WITHOUT THE PEOPLE TAX BASE ISN'T THERE TO FUND CERTAIN OPPORTUNITIES.
SO YES I'LL SUPPORT IT IT MAKES SENSE BUT AGAIN I BELIEVE IN CONSISTENCY.
WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT TELLS US TO IN OUR DISTRICT AND YOU SAY THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND I SEE US AS A WHOLE COMMUNITY. I DON'T SEE SOUTH OF BROAD NORTH OF BROAD DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT THREE I SEE COUNTY THAT'S WHAT WHERE ELECTED DO THAT'S WHY THE FUNDS ARE SPREAD ACROSS THE COUNTY BUT EVERYBODY LOVES TO HATE ON HILTON HEAD AND LOVES TO HATE ON BLUFFTON BUT THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM TAKING THE MONEY FROM HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON AND THAT IS THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT. THAT'S WHERE THE TAX BASE COMES FROM MAJORITY I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT AND NO NO MR. GLOVER'S NO MR. GLOVER BECAUSE THIS IS COME COMMENT. MADAM CHAIRMAN, THIS HAS COME UP TO ME TO ANNOUNCE TO HILTON HEAD INN IN BLUFFTON SUPPORT IF WE CAN AT THIS TIME. BUT IT WILL BE TIME WHEN BEAUFORT COUNTY SUPPORTED BLUFFTON IS SHIFTED TO TWO TIMES ON ON REBUTTAL ON THAT YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. OKAY MS. BROCK WE'RE GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THE ON THE TABLE CONTINUE NEGOTIATION TO CONTINUE CO COUNCIL MEMBER CUNNINGHAM YES. COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON YES COUNCILMEMBER REED'S NO COUNCILMEMBER PASS SUMMIT NO NO. COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN NO NO COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER NO COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON OH COUNCILMEMBER BROWN NO I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T HEAR THAT. NO. OKAY.
SOUNDS YOU HEARD IT. NO COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW NO VICE-CHAIR TAVERNER NO CHAIR HOWARD NO. THE MOTION FAILS. OH, I'M SORRY.
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OKAY. THE MEETING IS NOT OVER. PLEASE I I'M SORRY TO HAMMER THE MEETING IS NOT OVER. HAVE ANOTHER ORDINANCE. WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.I NEED THE POSITIVE MOTION I NEED I NEED ACTION. HE NEEDS ANOTHER VERY HE'S GOT THE MOTION. MR. MCGOWAN YOU MAKE THE POSITIVE MOTION.
WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE. I BE READY.
YOU QUIET DOWN WHILE I'M DOWN. YES. YEAH.
OH, GO AHEAD. MR. MCGOWAN. YOU HAVE A MOTION ON YOU HAVE TO GO AHEAD. YOU'D HAVE YOUR ATTENTION, PLEASE.
WE'RE JUST ABOUT FINISHED. WE HAVE MORE WORK TO. DO IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION COMING PLEASE DON'T INTERRUPT IT'S ALREADY LATE AND I KNOW WE'RE ALL ON OUR LAST NERVE AND I DON'T EVER LIKE TO GIVE MY LAST NERVE AWAY OKAY.
HERE I GO MR. MCGOWAN I MOVE THAT WE NOT THE ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN PINE ISLAND HOLDINGS AND BEAUFORT COUNTY PURSUANT TO SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS SECTION SIX 3130 AND THE FACT THEREFORE DENIAL IS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THE COMMUNITY CODE AND ALL OTHER BEAUFORT COUNTY ORDINANCES.
A SECOND SECOND MR. GLOVER I DREAD TO ASK IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. MS. BROCK COUNCILMEMBER MCKELLEN YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES. COUNCILMEMBER REED'S YES.
COUNCILMEMBER PASSING IT YES. COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON. MARK LAWSON YES.
COUNCILMEMBER DODSON YES. COUNCILMEMBER CUNNINGHAM NO. COUNCILMEMBER BROWN YES.
COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW YES. VICE-CHAIR TABACHNICK YES. CHAIR HOWARD YES.
THE MOTION EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MOTION OKAY. ALL RIGHT NOW MADAM CHAIR YES SIR. THE APPLICANT HAS APPROACHED THE COUNCIL AND INFORMED US THAT THEY WANT TO WITHDRAW ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. WE'VE GIVEN YOU A DIRECTION AS FAR AS WHAT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR SAID IN REGARDS IF THAT OCCURRED.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING YOU SAID. YEAH, OKAY SO THE THE INTERPRETATION FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS THAT IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO WITHDRAW THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT HE HAS TO MAKE THAT REQUEST OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR NOT COUNCIL. CORRECT. OKAY.
DID YOU TELL ROBB? YES. YOU HAVE TOLD MR. MERCHANT.
ALL RIGHT. I NEED AN ANSWER FROM ROBB BEFORE TAKE UP THIS MOTION.
ALL RIGHT, I WANT TWO WORDS ROBB, YOU PROBABLY WENT HOME. NO.
OH, OH. WHERE IS MR. MERCHANT CALLING MR. MERCHANT? I DON'T SEE I SAW IT. CHECK OUT THERE'S ROBB. IT'LL BE BACK HERE.
I NEED A CLERK BUT THAT'S JUST SITTING RIGHT HERE LATER IT WILL THROW THEM THE FINE MR. MERCHANT IS LOOKING FOR MR. ATKINSON TO GO. YEAH, ME TOO.
BUT YOU KNOW I'LL CALL MY WIFE. SHE'LL SERENADE ME WITH TRAFFIC SLOGANS IT'S ONLY FOR SHE WON'T REALLY GET ME TO GIVE US SPACE YOU YOU CALL ME IF YOU FIND ANYTHING BECAUSE THE NEWS I KNEW I WAS GOING TO GO OKAY SO 1691 CONTINUES TO INCREASE. WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.
OKAY, WHERE ARE WE? MR. AT NIGHT I SAID TO YOU AS MUCH WHOEVER I DON'T REALLY CARE UNTIL THIS IS DONE OH YOU KNOW THIS PLACE I WE'RE STILL IN SESSION, SIR.
WE'RE STILL SESSION. WE'RE STILL IN SESSION IF EVERYBODY CAN HAVE A SEAT OR YOU CAN LEAVE THE BUILDING EITHER ONE WE'RE STILL IN SESSION.
GO AHEAD WITH THAT. YES, I'M SORRY. WHAT?
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I'M LISTENING TO BUT IT'S NOT OUR DECISION. IT'S THAT MADAM CHAIR.I'M MADAM CHAIR. IF WE DON'T GET A DECISION ON THAT OR YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER IT NOW AND THEN JUST OH YEAH ACTUALLY JUST CHUCK ATKINSON HERE SO I'M JUST CHUCK OKAY THANK YOU SIMON HANG ON PEOPLE SHE NEEDS OKAY YOU GO CHAIR.
WHERE'S GEORGIA? HANG IN THERE. OH, OKAY.
LET'S SEE. YOU TOLD ME THAT THE ONLY ONE YOU WANT THE LAST ONE ALL OF THEM IS ALMOST TWO STUDIES AND SHE SENT AN EMAIL. WHEN DID HE SEND ME? MR. DUKE JUST TOLD US MR. DUKE'S SO WHEN DID YOU SEND IT TATTLETALE YOU SAY YOU YOU KNOW HOW TO ROB MARTIN DO YOU HAVE THE SENT TO MR. WE CAN BE WHAT WE ARE YEAH THAT'S ALL YOU NEED RIGHT. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE TYPICAL ONE MINUTE WARNING.
YEAH, WE JUST WOULD LIKE IT PUT IT ON THE SPEAKER RIGHT ON. YEAH.
OKAY. MR. SPECIMEN BROWN, WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE WAITING TO SEE THEY WITHDREW HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH. OKAY.
THEY'VE WITHDRAWN THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT. SO THIS MEETING'S WORKED HARD AT THAT, BUT YEAH. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT'S GOING ON? THEY EXPLAIN TO THE ROOM. YEAH. OKAY, SO THE ATTORNEY FOR THE DEVELOPER OR FOR THE OWNER HAS POINTS THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS STILL IN ADDITION TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS RECEIVED THE EMAIL HAS ACCEPTED IT THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING WE'RE ADJOURNED
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