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          CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          [1. Call to Order]
I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TOWN COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2025 TO ORDER. 
          PLEASE APOLOGIZE TO MY VOICES. 
          I HAVE LETTER AND GIANTS. 
          I'M NOT SICK. 
          I JUST GOT TESTED FOR CODE AND FOR STREP ROAD. 
          I'M CLEAR ON BOTH, SO, UM, WE WILL MAKE IT THROUGH TODAY. 
          UM, I PROBABLY WON'T SPEAK AS MUCH AS WELL THAT WILL MAKE Y'ALL HAPPY, BUT , ANY YOU, UM, IF YOU WILL PLEASE JOIN AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE PLEDGE. 
          ALL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REPUBLIC VOTE STATES OBLIGATION UNDER GOD AN INVIS WITH LIBERTY. 
          ALL IF YOU'LL CONTINUE STANDING WHILE WE HAVE MEYERS FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH GONNA SAY THE IMPLICATION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          GOD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER TODAY. 
          GOD, WE PRAY FOR LEADER, LEADERSHIP AND WISDOM. 
          GOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR LEADERSHIP. 
          UH, THROUGH OUR CHURCH, WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO, UH, TO PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS, OUR OUR GOVERNMENTAL LEADERS. 
          UH, PERSON TIMOTHY TWO REMINDS US, UH, WE ARE URGED TO PRAY THAT ALL PETITIONS, PRAYERS IN SESSION, THANKSGIVING FOR ALL PEOPLE, KEYS AND THOSE IN AUTHORITY BE MADE PEACEFUL AND WHITE LIVES OF GOD. 
          REMINDED IN ROMAN 13, LET EVERYONE BE SUBJECT TO THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY. 
          SO THERE'S NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT THAT WHICH GOD HAS ESTABLISHED. 
          THE AUTHORITIES EXISTED AND ESTABLISHED BY GOD. 
          UH, GOD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE AUTHORITIES YOU BLESSED US WITH. 
          GOD. 
          PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM. 
          UH, GOD, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, UH, UH, WISDOM AND WISE DECISIONS, IF THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, THERE ARE PROBABLY THREE OPINIONS, UH, OF WHAT WISDOM LOOKS LIKE. 
          UH, AND SO GOD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE WISDOM, UH, GOD, THAT YOU HELP THEM TO LEAD WELL, TO LISTEN WELL AND LEAD WELL. 
          UH, AND GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPOINTMENT OF LEADERS OVER US. 
          UH, GOD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE WITH THE BLESSING, THE INCREDIBLE BLESSING THAT WE HAVE TO CALL THIS PLACE. 
          UH, GOD, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF YOUR CREATION. 
          AND GOD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR ALLOWING US TO BE WHERE YOU SEEMINGLY HAVE SHOWED OFF YOUR ABILITY TO CREATE. 
          UH, GOD, HELP US, UH, TO DO WELL HERE. 
          UH, GOD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD, UH, PROSPER, UH, THIS AREA AND THESE PEOPLE AND, UH, GOD BE GLORIFIED IN EVERYTHING THAT'S SAID AND DONE TODAY. 
          GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THOSE THAT HAVE GONE BEFORE US AND PAVED, UH, AN INCREDIBLE WAY AS ONE WE'RE ABOUT TO HONOR. 
          AND, UH, GOD, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE MANY, MANY LIVES THAT HAVE MADE AN IMPACT HERE. 
          GOD CONTINUED TO BE GLORIFIED IN THIS PLACE. 
          IT'S IN CHRIST'S NAME THAT WE PRAY. 
          AMEN. 
          AMEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT UP, 
          [4. Adoption of the Agenda]
WE'LL HAVE THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA. 
          MR. ORLANDO, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO, SIR. 
          WITH THAT OUT THERE, IS THERE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE AGENDA AS IS FIRST AND SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SO HAVE EVERY, YOUR RIGHT HAND, SO MOVE OPPOSED, OPPOSED. 
          SIX TO ONE IS THE VOTE GROUP. 
          AND CAN YOU, WHO WAS AGAINST, UH, MS. BRYCE? THANKS. 
          WE 
          [5. Approval of the Minutes]
HAVE THE WORKSHOP MEETINGS OF JULY 29TH, UH, REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST 19TH AND WORKSHOP MINUTES OF AUGUST 26TH, 2025. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. 
          SECOND, MR. ALFRED, MS. BECKER, ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE SIGNIFIED BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND APPROVAL. 
          SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          NEXT UP, WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR 
          [6. Presentations and Recognitions]
TOWN MANAGER, MARK ORLANDO FOR THE REPORT OF THE TOWN MANAGER. 
          MR. ORLANDO? YES, SIR. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. 
          I HAVE A FEW THINGS TODAY. 
          UM, JUST FOR EVERYBODY. 
          MY, MY MONTHLY TOWN MANAGER REPORT USUALLY HIGHLIGHTS ALL THE VARIOUS ITEMS COMING OUT OF OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          SO A FEW THINGS TO SHARE TODAY. 
          UM, FIRE RESCUE IS DEVELOPING ITS 2027 STRATEGIC PLAN AND INVITES COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO CONTRIBUTE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY INPUT SURVEY THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY DONE SO, I URGE YOU TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, SHARE YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND HELP GUIDE OUR DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES. 
          SO OUR FIRE CHIEF'S IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, I CAN'T, UH, SAY THANK YOU TO HIM ENOUGH AND HIS ENTIRE TEAM. 
          SO WE NEED YOUR HELP WITH THE STRAP PLAN. 
          AND CHIEF, THANKS FOR TAKING THAT AND, AND LEADING THAT FORWARD. 
          HILTON HEAD FIRE RESCUE ALSO INVITES YOU TO JOIN US FOR A FREE PANCAKE BREAKFAST ON SUNDAY, OCTOBER 5TH FROM NINE TO 12. 
          UM, COUPLE HIGHLIGHTS. 
          IT'S FREE PANCAKES, SO WHICH GOOD FIRE TRUCK AND AMBULANCE DISPLAYS, UH, JUNIOR FIREFIGHTER CHALLENGE COURSE AND GAMES AND ACTIVITIES FOR KIDS. 
          SO FIRE STATION FOUR IS ON SQUIRE POPE ROAD NEAR THE BACK GATE 
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OF HILTON MAN PLANTATION, BUT AT 400 SQUIRE POPE ROAD, UM, NINE TILL 12 SUNDAY, OCTOBER 5TH. 
          SO HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE. 
          UM, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COORDINATOR OUT OF OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT, KEISHA O'DONNELL, WHO HAS JUST BEEN HERE IN A, IN A SOLID, CONSISTENT, DEDICATED EMPLOYEE OF THE TOWN, JUST REACHED A MILESTONE OF 25 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE TOWN. 
          SO I DON'T THINK KEISHA'S HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST A BIG CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO HER THROUGH OUR OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS. 
          I KNOW NATALIE'S HERE. 
          UM, NATALIE IS SMILING, BUT SHE HAS BEEN WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK WITH HER TEAM. 
          ROB AND ANGIE, EVERYBODY. 
          UM, THIS IS OUR TH THIS IS THE, THIS IS A BIG WEEK, OUR THIRD ANNUAL HILTON HEAD ISLAND JAM SONGWRITER FESTIVAL. 
          SO IF YOU HEARD OF THE FIRST TWO, UM, IT RETURNS THIS WEEK. 
          IT RUNS FROM THURSDAY TO SUNDAY, MORE THAN 40 SONGWRITERS PERFORMING AT EIGHT DIFFERENT VENUES, UH, AROUND HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          AND AS, AS, AS YOU MAY KNOW, MANY OF NASHVILLE'S BIGGEST HIT MAKERS WILL RETURN TO THE HILTON TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO PERFORM ALONGSIDE SOME OF OUR LOCAL AND INCREDIBLE SONGWRITERS. 
          TWO FREE COMMUNITY PARKS, UM, HELD ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT AT LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK. 
          FRIDAY NIGHT IS JEFFREY STEELE. 
          SATURDAY NIGHT IS LOW CASH AND WE'RE JUST PROUD TO BRING THAT BACK. 
          UM, BACK TO YOU. 
          UM, THE CONCERTS START AT FIVE, END AT 10. 
          YOU CAN ALSO CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE AND LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT IT. 
          AND THERE'S ALSO AN, AN APP YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH THE SCHEDULING AND THE PERFORMANCE. 
          UH, VENUES, K POCKET PARK UNDER CONTRACT. 
          UH, IT'S THE ONE OF THE LAST QUADRANTS ON KAGEY CIRCLE ON THE OUTER EDGE THAT WILL BE IMPROVED FOR PEDESTRIAN AND STORMWATER. 
          UM, ISSUES CON CON CONSTRUCTION IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN THIS MONTH. 
          PROJECTS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF APRIL. 
          WE HAVE TWO OTHER PARKS THAT ARE ABOUT TO BREAK GROUND. 
          TAYLOR FAMILY PARK AND PATTERSON PARK. 
          UM, WE HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT THE ISLAND WRECK ON AUGUST 18TH AND SEPTEMBER 4TH. 
          UM, THEY WERE WELL ATTENDED AND WELL, I, I BELIEVE I, I WAS AT ONE OF THE TWO AND I HEARD BACK. 
          UM, WELL RECEIVED OUR TOWN PROJECT MANAGER, SCOTT HARRIS, PROJECT MANAGER EXTRAORDINAIRE. 
          IN MY OPINION, WHITMER JONES KEEFER AND SPARK FORMATION HELP ARE HELPING US WITH THE DESIGN AND STORYTELLING OF BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. 
          UM, SOME NEXT STEPS, COMPLETING DESIGN AND PERMITTING CONSTRUCTION ON TAYLOR IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN DECEMBER. 
          AND CONSTRUCTION ON PATTERSON IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN JANUARY RIGHT IN AROUND THE SAME TIME THAT OUR NORTH POINT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          UM, CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE STARTING SOMEWHERE IN THE DECEMBER TIMEFRAME. 
          SO SOONER THAN LATER WE'LL BE PRETTY BUSY UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH A FEW PROJECTS. 
          SORRY, DID YOU SAY YOUR HOUSING PROJECTS STARTING? YES. 
          JUST WANNA READ. 
          YES, SIR. 
          BREAKING GROUND IN DECEMBER, UM, BEACH REN NOURISHMENT, OUR CONTRACTOR, MARX CONSTRUCTION HAS MOBILIZED, THERE'S PIPE LAID, UM, AND A LARGE DREDGE VESSEL. 
          IF YOU SEE IT OUT IN THE WATER, IT'S KICKED OFF PHASE ONE OF OUR BEACH RENOURISHMENT PROJECT. 
          UM, THEY BEGAN PUMPING SAND AT FISH HALL BEACH. 
          THIS IS WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A VERY DETAILED ORIENTED ENGINEER DIRECTOR. 
          HE TOLD ME THAT IT STARTED AT 7:20 AM ON SEPTEMBER 11. 
          SO GREAT JOB TO THE, TO THE STORMWATER TEAM AND TO THE ENGINEERING TEAM ACCORDING TO THE LATEST SCHEDULE. 
          AND THAT DOES FLUCTUATE BASED UPON A FEW VARIABLES. 
          RENOURISH WILL BE, RENOURISHMENT WILL BE COMPLETE AT FISH HALL BY THE END OF THIS WEEK, UM, PENDING GOOD WEATHER, UH, CALM SEAS AND NO EQUIPMENT ISSUES. 
          RENOURISHMENT RENOURISHMENT AT PINE ISLAND IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN LATE SEPTEMBER, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY BEGAN MOBILIZING EQUIPMENT, UM, TO PINE ISLAND. 
          THE CONTRACTOR RENOURISHMENT AT THE HEEL SLASH PORT ROYAL IS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN LATE OCTOBER, AND THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. 
          AND THEN, AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW, PHASE TWO, UM, IS, IS READY FOR COMPLETION BY THE END OF MAY. 
          UM, WE HAVE OUR BIDS IN FOR THE BREAKWATER STRUCTURES AT PINE ISLAND. 
          SO THOSE JUST CAME IN, WE'RE EXAMINING THEM. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOWER THAN PROJECTED, UM, THANKFULLY, AND THOSE WILL BE INSTALLED TO HELP RETAIN THE SAND PLACE PROTECTING THE TOWN'S INVESTMENT AND REACH NOURISHMENT OVER TIME AT PINE ISLAND. 
          SO SOME GOOD NEWS THERE. 
          UM, MAYOR PERRY, YOU ASKED ME TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND IF, IF WE NEED TO PUT IT AT COMMITTEE AND TALK A LITTLE FURTHER. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RAINFALL, WE ALL KNOW THAT. 
          BUT, UH, JUST A DATA POINT. 
          WE EXPERIENCED FIVE SEPARATE RAINFALL EVENTS BETWEEN JULY 23 AND AUGUST 27TH IN EXCESS OF 24 INCHES 
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ACROSS MOST OF THE ISLANDS. 
          SO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RAINFALL. 
          UM, OUR STORM WATER UTILITY, UH, TEAM, OUR STAFF, I KNOW THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY, BUT THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE IMPACTED, THE YARDS THAT WERE FLOODING, THE ROADS THAT WERE FLOODING. 
          UM, WE KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. 
          AND WE DO HAVE A SEPTEMBER 30TH, 1:00 PM WORKSHOP SCHEDULED WITH U TOWN COUNCIL TO TALK A LITTLE FURTHER ABOUT OUR FINDINGS AND OUR FUTURE. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          WHERE IS HE? BOB? BOB ROIC, OUR DIRECTOR OF OUR COMMUNITY CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM, ALONG WITH SC DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES, HILTON HEAD, ISLAND REEF FOUNDATION, BEAUFORT COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS. 
          UM, AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OR SAW ON FACEBOOK AND THROUGH SOME OF OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS, WE'VE REMOVED SEVERAL SUNKEN VESSELS, UM, IN ABANDONED BOATS, UM, OVER THE LAST WEEK. 
          SO, UM, WE REMOVED 10 SO FAR, THREE JULY, THREE AUGUST, FOUR SEPTEMBER, THERE'S ONE LEFT THAT DNR PLANS TO DIVE AND FLOAT IN THE COMING WEEKS. 
          AND MAYOR AND COUNSEL THAT THE DOLLARS YOU PUT IN THE FY 26 BUDGET, THAT ALLOWED US TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT AND PARTNER WITH THE NONPROFIT AND THE STATE HAS MADE THIS VERY, UH, EFFECTIVE AND AND POSSIBLE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR DAVIS, YOU WANNA MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE PODIUM AND, UH, TO RECOGNIZE MR. THOMAS BARNWELL. 
          I HAVE HIM COME UP HERE AND STAY BESIDE, IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UM, MAYOR, UM, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF, OF REPRESENTING, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY IN THE STATE SENATE. 
          AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF HE REMEMBERS IT, BUT I CAME HERE IN 1985 AND I MET YOU THAT YEAR IN 1985. 
          I WAS 25 YEARS OLD AND MY, MY MATTHEW WERE 50 YEARS OLD. 
          UM, AND HERE WE ARE 40 YEARS LATER, AND I HAVE THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF READING TO YOU A RESOLUTION THAT I READ ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE ON MAY 28TH IN HONOR OF THOMAS BARNWELL. 
          SO IF YOU INDULGE ME, I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS TO CONGRATULATE THOMAS C BARNWELL JR OF BEAUFORT COUNTY ON THE OCCASION OF HIS 90TH BIRTHDAY AND WISH HIM MUCH HAPPINESS IN THE DAYS AHEAD. 
          WHEREAS ON JUNE 2ND, 2025, THOMAS C BARNWELL JR OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, WILL AWAKEN TO CELEBRATE A MILESTONE EVENT HIS 90TH BIRTHDAY. 
          AND WHEREAS BORN ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND AS A DIRECT DESCENDANT OF THE FREEDMAN OF MITCHELLVILLE, THOMAS BARNWELL ATTENDED HILTON HEAD ELEMENTARY, HILTON HEAD JUNIOR HIGH, AND PENN SCHOOLS GRADUATING FROM ST. 
          HELENA HIGH SCHOOL IN 1954. 
          HE FURTHERED HIS EDUCATION AT CLAFLIN COLLEGE, TUSKEGEE INSTITUTE, FISK UNIVERSITY, UNIVERSITY OF THE WEST INDIES, UNIVERSITY OF ONTARIO, UNIVERSITY OF PUERTO RICO, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN. 
          AND WHEREAS BEGINNING IN THE EARLY 1960S, MR. BARNWELL WAS THE FIELD DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PENN CENTER, ONE OF THE NATION'S FIRST SCHOOLS FOR FORMERLY ENSLAVED PEOPLE. 
          IN THAT CAPACITY, HE PLAYED A CENTRAL ROLE AS A CENTER, UH, AS THE CENTER SERVED AS A SAFE HAVEN AND PLANNING GROUND FOR DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. 
          IN THE SOUTHERN CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE, PERSONALLY TRANSPORTING DR. KING AND ENGAGING IN STRATEGIC CONVERSATIONS AROUND CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZING, IT WAS ABOUT THIS HISTORIC AND CULTURAL INSTITUTION. 
          HE CULTIVATED HIS COMMITMENT TO NON-VIOLENCE EDUCATION AND JUSTICE THAT SHAPED HIS LEADERSHIP FOR DECADES. 
          AND WHEREAS THROUGHOUT THE LATE 1960S AND 1970S, THOMAS BARNWELL LED THE FORMATION OF BEAUFORT JASPER COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH SERVICES. 
          A MULTI-CENTER HEALTHCARE NETWORK WOULD NOW SERVES OVER 25,000 PEOPLE ACROSS THE LOW COUNTRY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, HE APPEARED ON CB S'S 60 MINUTES TO EXPOSE HEALTH DISPARITIES IN THE LOW COUNTRY GARNERING NATIONAL ATTENTION. 
          AND WHEREAS MR. BARNWELL CO-FOUNDED THE HILTON HEAD FISHING COOPERATIVE, SECURING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCAL BLACK FISHERMEN, SERVED ON THE BOARDS AND THE BLUFF WESTERN COOPERATIVE BUFORD FOR COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH AND NUMEROUS LOCAL NONPROFITS, AND PARTICIPATED IN JOHN F. KENNEDY JR'S TO FULFILL THESE RIGHTS COMMITTEE AND TESTIFY BEFORE THE UNITED STATES CENTER SENATE ON HUNGER AND MOUNTAIN NUTRITION. 
          AND WHEREAS BEGINNING IN THE 1980S, THOMAS BARNWELL DEVELOPED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ADVOCATED FOR LAND RETENTION AND ECONOMIC STABILITY FOR ISLANDERS TOURIST DRIVEN DOOR TOURIST DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES EVENTUALLY BEING INDUCTED INTO HILTON HEAD ISLAND HALL OF FAME FOR HIS LIFELONG CONTRIBUTIONS TO COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT, CULTURAL PRESERVATION, AND CIVIL RIGHTS. 
          AND WHEREAS MR. BARNWELL BECAME THE FOUNDING CHAIRMAN OF THE MITCHELLVILLE PRESERVATION PROJECT, FORMALIZING THE VISION TO ELECT STORIES AND ARTIFACTS TO DEMONSTRATE THE RICHNESS OF THE STORY OF THE LOCATION, AS WELL AS PRESERVE AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT HISTORIC MITCHELLVILLE DRAFTING BYLAWS, SECURING NONPROFIT STATUS, AND CREATING THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARK. 
          HE CHAMPIONED MITCHELLVILLE NOT JUST AS THE HISTORIC SITE, BUT AS A LIVING TESTAMENT TO HIS OWN ANCESTORS' LEGACY AND HIS STORY OF FREEDOM THROUGH SELF-DETERMINATION. 
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AND WHEREAS MOST RECENTLY, HE CO-AUTHORED GULLAH DAYS, HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS BEFORE THE BRIDGE 1861 TO 1956, DOCUMENTING THE STORIES OF HILTON HEAD'S, EARLIEST GULLAH FAMILIES. 
          IT'S BECAUSE OF THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS WELL AS COUNTLESS AFFILIATIONS, AWARDS, VOLUNTEER SERVICE AND RECOGNITIONS THAT THOMAS BARNWELL CONTINUES TO BE REVERED AS A BRIDGE BUILDER, TRUTH TELLER AND KEEPER OF HISTORY FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND AND THE GULLAH GEECHEE COMMUNITY. 
          AND WHEREAS IT IS THE GREAT PLEASURE FOR THIS SENATE TO HONOR AN INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS THOMAS C BARNWELL JR. 
          WHO HAS GIVEN SO MUCH TO HIS COMMUNITY AND TO JOIN WITH HIS FAMILY AND FRIENDS, AND CONGRATULATING HIM ON REACHING THIS IMPORTANT LIFE MILESTONE. 
          NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE SENATE THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE SALCON SENATE BY THIS RESOLUTION CONGRATULATE THOMAS C BARNWELL JR. 
          BEAUFORT COUNTY ON THE OCCASION OF HIS 90TH BIRTHDAY, AND WISH HIM MUCH HAPPINESS IN THE DAYS AHEAD AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION BE PRESENTED TO THOMAS C BARNWELL JR. 
          IN THE SENATE ADOPTED MAY 28TH, 2025. 
          MAYOR, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ALL YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE LORD FOR ALLOWING ME TO MAKE IT TO THE AGE OF 90 THAT I CAN STILL  STANDING HERE AND SAY THANK SENATOR TOM DAVIS. 
          WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR, TOWN MANAGER, EACH MEMBER OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, AS WELL AS I MUST THANK MY FAMILY MEMBERS THAT HAVE SUPPORTED ME ALL THESE YEARS. 
          NOW, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA SAY IT IS BETTER TO LIGHT A CANDLE THAN TO CURSE THE DARKNESS. 
          THANK ALL OF YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. 
          WOW, WHAT A GREAT MAN. 
          AND WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE HIM IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          NEXT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE SENIOR MONTH. 
          AND JERRY BROSKY FROM THE SENIOR CENTER DIRECTOR OF THE RHETORIC ASSOCIATION IS HERE TO BE PRESENTED WITH THIS ROCK. 
          SO COME ON UP JAY, AND I'LL READ THIS AS BEST I CAN SO Y'ALL CAN UNDERSTAND ME. 
          WHEREAS NATIONAL SENIOR CENTER MONTH IS OB OBSERVED ANNUALLY SEPTEMBER TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE VITAL ROLE THAT SENIOR CITIZENS PLAY, THAT SENIOR CITIZENS PLAY ENHANCING HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF OLDER ADULTS. 
          AND WE'RE AT SENIOR CENTER, CENTER SERVICE COMMUNITY HUBS OFFERING A WIDE RANGE OF PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT PROMOTE SOCIAL ENGAGEMENT, PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, LIFELONG LEARNING, AND ACCESS TO HEALTH AND WELLNESS RESOURCES. 
          AND WE'RE, AS THE THEME FOR NATIONAL SENIOR CENTER MONTH 2025, AS DESIGNATED BY THE NATIONAL COUNCIL ON AGING, IS POWERING CONNECTIONS, HIGHLIGHTING THE IMPORTANCE OF FOSTERING MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS AND COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS AMONG OLDER ADULTS. 
          AND WHEREAS HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING ITS GROWING OLDER ADULT POPULATION THROUGH PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT EMPOWER OLDER ADULTS TO LIVE, HAVE LIVE HEALTHY, ACTIVE AND DEPENDEN LIVES. 
          AND WHEREAS ISLAND RECREATION ASSOCIATION STRIVE TO CREATE A COMMUNITY THAT THAT VALUES AND SUPPORTS OLDER ADULTS AND ENSURING THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT, CONTRIBUTE, AND THRIVE. 
          NOW THEREFORE, I HONOR OUR PERRY MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HAT ISLAND IN SOUTH CAROLINA TWO, YOUR MICRO PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL SENIOR MONTH, AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTION OF OLDER ADULTS IN THE ESSENTIAL ROLE OF THE HILTON HUNT ISLAND SENIOR COMMUNITY AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO VISIT AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THEY OFFER. 
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CONGRATULATIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE HAVE THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND DESTINATION MARKETING, PUBLIC RELATIONS, UPDATE, AND METRICS REPORTS, UH, FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER PRESENTATION DELIVERED BY MS. CHARLIE CLARK. 
          CHARLIE, HELLO EVERYONE. 
          MAYOR PERRY AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY BRIEF TODAY. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A LOT ON THE AGENDA AND WE'LL BE BRIEF AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A GOOD OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING PUBLIC RELATIONS WISE WITH THE DESTINATION, AS WELL AS, UM, INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUE AFTER THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, CHASE ODELL, WHO WILL BE TALKING, HE'S OUR RESEARCH MANAGER AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT NOT ONLY THE QUARTERLY REPORT ON NUMBERS THAT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS INTERESTED IN INCLUDING Y'ALL, UM, IN TERMS OF OCCUPANCY, BUT HE IS ALSO GONNA BE GIVING A SNAPSHOT OF THE YEAR AS WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL SNAPSHOT OF SUMMER TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENING FROM AN OCCUPANCY, REVPAR AND, UH, AVERAGE DAILY RATE STANDPOINT FOR THAT. 
          SO JUST DIVING IN, I JUST WANNA TELL YOU, IT'S REALLY, UH, I HAVE THE PLEASURE EVERY SINGLE MORNING OF OPENING MY INBOX AND SEEING ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM. 
          JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE COVERAGE, YOU CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE. 
          WE ARE EVERYWHERE WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION. 
          IF ANYONE SO MUCH AS BREEDS AND SAYS HILTON HEAD ISLAND, THE SAME SENTENCE, IT'S GONNA COME IN MY INBOX IN THE MORNING. 
          AND THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE DEPTH AND BREADTH OF SOME OF THAT COVERAGE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, AS YOU SEE IN VERANDA 11, INSPIRING PLACES AROUND THE US TO LEARN MORE ABOUT BLACK HISTORY DESTINATIONS CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY MONTH, GREAT TRAVEL DESTINATIONS FOR FALL AND SHOULDER SEASON, IT MIGHT SURPRISE YOU TO KNOW THAT JUST YEAR TO DATE RIGHT NOW, THERE HAVE BEEN OVER 4,000 STORIES AND MENTIONS ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND IN THE MEDIA. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE SOURCES, THERE ARE MAJOR SOURCES AS WELL. 
          AND THESE ARE RESOURCES THAT TRAVELERS TRUST. 
          WE ALL KNOW TODAY'S SHOW. 
          WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE, UH, THIS YEAR ESPECIALLY MOST DESTINATIONS WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A SINGLE HIT ON THE TODAY SHOW. 
          WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE WITH APPROXIMATELY THREE. 
          THAT DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN, THAT'S BASED ON RELATIONSHIPS, THAT'S BASED ON DAILY PITCHING. 
          WE KNOW THAT CRAIG MELVIN IS A HUGE FAN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND VACATIONS HERE EVERY YEAR. 
          AND BASED ON THAT, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA TO DEDICATE A TURTLE NEST TO HIS FAMILY. 
          AND IN THE HOPES OF, QUITE FRANKLY, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S A NICE THING TO DO, BUT POTENTIALLY GARNERING COVERAGE. 
          THE NEXT MORNING MY PHONE BEGINS TO BLOW UP WITH NOTICES FROM, UH, PRODUCERS SAYING, HEY, CAN YOU SEND ME SOME PHOTOS? WE'RE GONNA SURPRISE CRAIG ON THE AIR WITH THAT. 
          AFTER THAT, THEY DID THAT. 
          WE GOT A GREAT SEGMENT FROM THAT. 
          AND IN TALKING WITH PRODUCERS FURTHER, THEY SAID, FOLLOW THE NEST, WE WANNA FOLLOW IT. 
          UH, WE DID NOT GET TO WATCH THE NEST HATCH, BUT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH AMBER KUHN, WE DID WATCH THE NEST BE INVENTORIED. 
          AND LO AND BEHOLD, WE COULDN'T HAVE WRITTEN A BETTER HOLLYWOOD STORY IN THE NEST. 
          AT THE VERY BOTTOM WAS ONE SINGLE TURTLE WHO HAD HATCHED AND NOT MADE HIS WAY OUT. 
          WE JUST HAPPENED TO HELP HIM MAKE HIS WAY OUT WITH AMBER, PUT HIM DOWN AND CAUGHT THE WHOLE THING ON FILM, WHICH THE TODAY SHOW THEN COVERED AS WELL. 
          SO IT'S JUST A GREAT WAY FOR US TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT. 
          WE'RE MORE THAN JUST SPEECHES. 
          WE'RE MORE THAN JUST SUMMER VACATION. 
          THERE'S SOME GREAT THINGS ABOUT THIS DESTINATION FROM A ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT. 
          WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY IT MATTERS. 
          WE ARE ALL SWIMMING IN CONTENT. 
          WE KNOW IT. 
          WE, WE, THERE'S A PLETHORA OF WAYS. 
          IT IS AVERAGE. 
          I DON'T HAVE MY CELL PHONE IN MY HAND. 
          UM, DON'T SPEND ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO FIVE HOURS A DAY ABSORBING CONTENT ON A MOBILE DEVICE. 
          IT'S EVERYWHERE. 
          ANYTIME PR CAN SUM THAT UP FOR YOU, IT'S A GREAT THING. 
          WE ALSO HEAR ABOUT SEO SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION. 
          IT'S ALSO ABOUT ANSWER ENGINE OPTIMIZATION. 
          HOW MANY OF US SEARCH THIS WAY RIGHT NOW? WE DON'T GO ANY FURTHER. 
          UM, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON IF YOU LOOK, THIS ACTUALLY SHOULD SAY ABOUT OVER 90% OF AI GENERATED ANSWERS SITE MEDIA. 
          THERE'S CITING NOT A PAID AD. 
          THEY'RE CITING MEDIA THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE. 
          TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, I JUST ASKED GOOGLE THE QUESTION, TELL ME ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND'S DESTINATION. 
          THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAID. 
          WHAT MAKES IT STAND OUT? LOOK AT THOSE RESOURCES. 
          PARIS MAGAZINE, NAMED HILTON HAD THE BEST FAMILY BEACH DESTINATION IN THE COUNTRY. 
          BEAUTIFUL BEACHES, THANKS TO THE WORK THE TOWN DOES ON KIG PARK THAT GETS NOTICED. 
          BEACHES, UH, AS WELL AS THE ACCOLADES, TRAVEL LEISURE, PARENTS, CONDE NAS TRAVELER. 
          OVER ON THE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SUNSET IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID ABOUT HOW WE RANK CONSISTENTLY. 
          THAT COMES FROM PR. 
          LOOK AT THE COMPANY WE'RE IN THE HAMPTONS, MARTHA'S VINEYARD NEWPORT. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY THE COMPANY WE WANT TO BE IN. 
          WHEN IT COMES TO MEDIA COVERAGE, INFLUENCER TRAVEL IS IMPORTANT. 
          AS I SAID, INFLUENCERS, YOUNGER FOLKS, THAT'S AN AVERAGE OF FOUR TO FIVE HOURS. 
          IF THE YOUNGER YOU GO, THE MORE TIME YOU SPEND ON YOUR MOBILE DEVICE, THREE OUT OF FOUR TRAVELERS UNDER FOUR SAY AN INFLUENCER DIRECTLY LED THEM TO BOOK A TRIP. 
          LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS. 
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THESE ARE FOLKS PEOPLE LISTEN TO WHEN IT COMES TO BOOKING TRAVEL. 
          THEIR COVERAGE, THEIR REACH ACTUALLY IS LARGER THAN WHAT MANY PRINT PUBLICATIONS USED TO BE. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BE EVERYWHERE. 
          WHETHER WE'RE INFLUENCERS, WE'RE IN PRINT, WE'RE IN DIGITAL MEDIA, WE'RE IN SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          EVERYWHERE VISITORS ARE LOOKING IS WHERE WE WANNA BE. 
          HOW DO WE DO IT? HOW IT HAPPENS. 
          WE'RE PITCHING DAILY, WE'RE HOSTING MEDIA EVENTS. 
          THE PHOTO YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT IS ANDREW CARMINE AND AMBER KUHN. 
          WE TOOK THEM WITH US TO NEW YORK ON A, ON A MEDIA EVENT, SPECIFICALLY TARGETING SUSTAINABILITY AND THE ISLAND'S ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY. 
          ANDREW CARMINE IS ONLY HE CAN DO. 
          HARVESTED 500 OYSTERS THAT MORNING AT 6:00 AM PUT THEM ON THE PLANE, NOT IN CARGO. 
          HE TOOK THEM IN THE OVERHEAD BINS IN YETI COOLERS. 
          THERE WERE 500 OYSTERS. 
          SO BY FIVE O'CLOCK THAT NIGHT, LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY, WE HAD MEDIA EATING IT UP. 
          UH, THAT'S JUST A PRICELESS PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND WITH AMBER AS WELL, TELLING THE STORY OF THE TURTLES THAT MEDIA EVENT RESULTED IN COVERAGE. 
          HERE'S A LITTLE THING ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. 
          AND I'M GONNA, AS WE LEAD INTO A GULLAH PRESS TRIP THAT WE HAVE, UM, YOU DON'T RUSH HERE, YOU COAST. 
          I NOW UNDERSTAND WHY THE ISLAND SEEMED DEEPLY UNINTERESTED IN MY NEED FOR URGENCY. 
          WHEN JONATHAN GILES WITH EBONY MAGAZINE WAS HERE TO LOOK AT MITCHELLVILLE FREEDOM PARK FOR POTENTIAL COVERAGE, HE LOST HIS PHONE AND HIS WALLET WITHIN THE FIRST 10 MINUTES OF HIS TRIP. 
          HOW HILTON HAD ALLEN TOOK MY PHONE AWAY AND GAVE ME A LITTLE PIECE AND RETURN. 
          HE BASED HIS WHOLE STORY ON IT, IT WENT FAR. 
          AND WHY? THAT'S THE KIND OF COVERAGE THAT TELLS THE STORIES ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND THAT DON'T OFTEN GET TOLD. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE ONES WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE TELLING. 
          I'M GONNA LEAD RIGHT INTO OUR QUARTERLY FISCAL YEAR REPORT. 
          AND ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR PILLARS AND OUR FOCUS ON THOSE PILLARS IS OUR, THE GULLAH PRESS TRIP THAT I MENTIONED. 
          AGAIN, LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, IT WAS REALLY A SUPER BOWL OF MEDIA COVERAGE. 
          REFINERY 29, EVERYONE FROM ESSENCE TO EBONY. 
          IT WAS GREAT COVERAGE FOR THE DESTINATION AND FROM GALA CULTURE, PUBLIC RELATIONS. 
          THIS IS JUST THE QUARTER REPORT FOR APRIL THROUGH JUNE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, 474 STORIES AND MENTIONS JUST ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          AND ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT THAT INVOLVED. 
          YOU GOTTA LOVE HERITAGE AND YOU GOT A LOVE A LITTLE SCOTTY SCHEFFLER WHEN YOU MAKE YAHOO SPORTS. 
          AND YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON THAT WITH 25 MILLION PEOPLE SO FAR AND WIDE IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OUTLETS AND PUBLICATIONS, GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          WITH THAT, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE MY COLLEAGUE, ARIANA PER, AND SHE'LL LEAD OFF THE RESEARCH PORTION IN THE NEXT PORTION. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'M SORRY YOU'RE UNDER THE WEATHER. 
          HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AS CHARLIE MENTIONED , I'M GONNA HAVE CHASE ODELL WITH US AS WELL. 
          I'LL TALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DETAILS AROUND OCCUPANCY, UM, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE STATISTICS REGARDING, UM, WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          BUT AS CHARLIE MENTIONED, WHICH BY THE WAY, GREAT JOB CHARLIE. 
          THANK YOU FOR BRINGING SOME OF THOSE STORIES, UM, FORWARD FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. 
          UM, I THINK SOME OF THE DETAIL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO BE ALWAYS ON. 
          WE TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          WE TALK ABOUT THAT WHEEL GRAPHIC AND HOW WE HAVE TO USE ALL OF OUR CHANNELS TO SPREAD THE WORD, UM, TO OUR QUALIFIED AUDIENCES. 
          BUT IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT NOT JUST BEING ON, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT BEING EVERYWHERE, RIGHT? IN THOSE PERFECT PLACES. 
          SO I TALK ABOUT THAT IN REGARDS TO THE VACATION PLANNER, UM, AND THAT PIECE BEING DISTRIBUTED OR FULFILLED. 
          SO IN TOTAL FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WE HAD 65,000 PRODUCED. 
          WE'RE ABOUT YEAR TO DATE DISTRIBUTION, JUST SHY OF HALFWAY THROUGH THAT INVENTORY. 
          UM, THROUGH MANY CHANNELS OF FULFILLMENT. 
          THOSE COULD COME IN THROUGH, UM, SOUTH CAROLINA WELCOME CENTERS, AAA, UM, OFFICES, OUR OFFICE THROUGH MAIL, PHONE CALLS, ALL OF OUR MEDIA EVENTS, ALL OF OUR TRADE SHOWS. 
          THOSE ARE IN, UM, SOME OF OUR PARTNERED, UH, PARTNERSHIPS AND, UM, THINGS THAT WE BRING FORWARD. 
          AND ALSO IN THE HOTELS AND HOME AND VILLAS. 
          SORRY. 
          AND THEN, UM, I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ABOUT THAT VIRTUAL FRONT DOOR THAT WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT. 
          IT'S A METRIC THAT WE MEASURE. 
          IT'S A CURRENTLY IN OUR CONTRACT. 
          AND WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE SOCIAL, UM, PERFORMANCE AS WELL AND HOW THAT, THAT NARRATIVE HAS SHIFT IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE ARE DIGESTING THE CONTENT THAT THEY'RE SEEING, UM, AND WHAT IS BRINGING THEM TO THE WEBSITE AND HOW THEY'RE FINDING THE DESTINATION THROUGH OUR OTHER CHANNELS AND HARD WORK. 
          AND I'LL LET CHASE SPEAK TO THAT 'CAUSE WE'VE KIND OF DIVED A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON KIND OF THE GOOGLE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND, AND HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          SO I'LL SHIFT SIDES WITH YOU. 
          OH, YOU HAVE YOUR OWN MICROPHONE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, ONE OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BUT, UM, IT BEAR REPEATING, UM, THE GENERATIVE SEARCH OR AI SEARCH EXPERIENCE, IT'S TO USE DISRUPTIVE WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT. 
          UM, IT HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED THE PLAYGROUND, UH, AT WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE OPERATE. 
          UM, UH, THE STATISTIC FROM 2024 WAS THAT TWO THIRDS OF ALL GOOGLE SEARCHES ARE NOW ZERO CLICK, ZERO CLICK, MEANING YOU TYPE IN, UH, UH, WHAT TO DO IN HEAD EYE 
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ON THIS WEEKEND, THE SUMMARY COMES UP, YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED AND YOU EXIT OUTTA YOUR BROWSER. 
          YOU NEVER ONCE CLICK ANYWHERE ELSE. 
          SO THAT'S PRESENTED SOME HEADWINDS FOR US, RIGHT? SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOME THINGS THAT WE THINK CAN KIND OF, UM, CHANGE THAT NARRATIVE A BIT. 
          ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE ON A WEBSITE ANYMORE? YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE PEOPLE VISITING A WEBSITE, HOW CAN YOU STILL BRING VALUE TO, UH, YOUR STAKEHOLDERS? WELL, ONE OF THAT, ONE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT AI, UM, RECOGNIZES YOU AS A, AS A, UM, SOURCE, UH, SOURCE OF AUTHORITY, UM, FOR ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU SAY, WHERE SHOULD I STAY IN HILTON HEAD ISLAND THIS WEEKEND AND ONE OF OUR HOTEL PARTNERS POPS UP, UM, WE, WE CAN SAY TO THAT HOTEL PARTNER, HEY, YOU ARE AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST, BECAUSE OUR CONTENT WAS GOOD ENOUGH THAT AI SAW US AS THE AUTHORITY. 
          SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? WELL, UM, I'M HAPPY TO SAY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UH, MCKENNA, MCKENNA HENRY, OUR DIRECTOR OF SALES AND, UH, SORRY, OUR DIRECTOR OF MARKETING AND MYSELF, UM, WE WENT TO CHICAGO TO THE DESTINATIONS INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE. 
          WHILE WE WERE THERE, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY, UM, BE SELECTED TO BE PART OF GOOGLE'S DMO PILOT PROGRAM, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS GOOGLE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW TO MARKET, UM, TOURISM EXPERIENCES TO, UM, TO TRAVELERS WHILE ALSO GIVING BEST PRACTICES TO DESTINATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE TAKING FULL ADVANTAGE OF GOOGLE SUITE. 
          PART OF THAT MEANT THAT WE ACTUALLY GOT TO, UH, MEET DIRECTLY AT GOOGLE'S OFFICE FACE TO FACE WITH PEOPLE FROM GOOGLE. 
          AND GOING FORWARD, WE NOW HAVE A CONTACT WITHIN GOOGLE ITSELF THAT, UH, WE CAN TALK TO WITH QUESTIONS AS NEEDED. 
          UH, IN FACT, I TALKED TO HER, HER NAME IS ELISE, TALKED TO HER ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO VIA A ZOOM CALL. 
          AND THAT WILL BE AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP THAT WE KIND OF NURTURE, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAN TAKE THAT WE TOOK AWAY FROM THAT. 
          UM, WE'RE CHANGING HOW WE MARK UP THE BACK END OF OUR WEBSITE. 
          UM, IT'S KIND OF TECHNICAL, BUT THE IDEA BEING, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THOSE AI BOTS CRAWL OUR WEBSITE, THEY KNOW HOW TO CATEGORIZE OUR INFORMATION MORE EFFECTIVELY. 
          SO BASICALLY MAKING SURE THAT IF, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE SEARCHES FOR AN EVENT, UH, THAT OUR WEBSITE IS SET UP SO THAT WHEN THE AI CRAWLER COMES THROUGH, THEY CAN SAY, OH, THERE'S THE EVENT TAG RIGHT THERE. 
          LET ME PULL THAT AND THROW THAT INTO THE, UH, AI SUMMARY. 
          UM, AND IT'S ANOTHER, THIS GETS MORE TECHNICAL INTO LIKE MAKING SURE CERTAIN WORDS RELATED WITH EACH OTHER ON YOUR WEBSITE, THE WAY THAT AI TENDS TO LIKE THOSE WORDS WORDED TOGETHER. 
          UM, BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH GOOGLE HAS REALLY ALLOWED US TO BE AT THE CUTTING EDGE OF WHERE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS GOING. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NOT MANY D OS THAT CAN SAY THAT. 
          SO SOMETHING WE'RE VERY PROUD OF. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I THINK WE, WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT OUR LAST TIME TOGETHER WAS JUST HOW DO WE MARKET TO THE DIFFERENT, NOT ONLY THE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS, BUT THE DIFFERENT AUDIENCES THAT YOU SEE WITHIN THOSE PLATFORMS. THE SOCIAL MEDIA AUDIENCE IS DIFFERENT THAN OUR WEBSITE AUDIENCE IS DIFFERENT THAN POTENTIALLY THE ONE THAT'S READING THE MAGAZINE. 
          UM, AND EVEN IN THAT SEGMENT, YOU HAVE ONE THAT READS THE PRINT VERSUS THE ONLINE VERSION. 
          SO AGAIN, WE ARE FLEXING NOT ONLY TO BE EVERYWHERE, BUT TO BE IN ALL THINGS APPROPRIATELY, BUT WE HAVE TO ALSO MARKET TO THEM IN THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THOSE, UM, INDIVIDUALS ARE DIGESTING CONTENT, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTENT IS QUALIFIED AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE, UM, BEING BROUGHT TO 'EM IN THE WAY THEY LIKE TO DIGEST. 
          SO CHASE JUST DID A, UM, A GRAB OF JUST WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE FOR US, AND IS THIS FOR CHANGES? CORRECT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO SPEAK TO THE NUANCES OF THIS. 
          OH YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS JUST BASICALLY DEMOGRAPHICS FOR PEOPLE THAT VISITED THE WEBSITE IN THIS PAST QUARTER. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT DOES TEND TO SKEW A LITTLE BIT OLDER. 
          UM, IT DOES KIND OF MIRROR, UM, OUR, UH, ISLAND TRAVELER DEMOGRAPHIC THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST. 
          IT SKEWS WOMEN, BUT NOT SIGNIFICANTLY. 
          SO, UM, OUR TOP MARKETS IN THE UNITED STATES WITH OUR TOP INTERNATIONAL MARKETS, BEING CANADA, THE UNITED CANADA, THE UNITED KINGDOM, AND GERMANY, AND THEN THE STATES THAT WE PULL FROM, I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING THAT WE ACTUALLY, UM, WEBSITE VISITATION WISE, WE DO GET MORE PEOPLE FROM GEORGIA AND NORTH CAROLINA, FLORIDA AND NEW YORK THAN WE DO, UM, THAN WE DO, UM, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHICH IS INTERESTING. 
          BUT THEN IF YOU GO OVER AND WE'LL HAVE THAT SAME BREAKOUT FOR SOCIAL MEDIA, AND AGAIN, WE CAN, UM, LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT IN MORE DETAIL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, AGAIN, IN CHASE'S EFFORTS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO BRIDGE THAT GAP OF HOW, UM, IT IS EVER CHANGING IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE REACHING TO OUR CONSUMER. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE USING THAT SOCIAL MEDIA AS THAT IT SEEMS TO BE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRANSITION FROM DIRECTLY TO THE WEBSITE IN A SEARCH QUERY VERSUS USING OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TO FIND THE BRAND SEEMS TO BE THAT SHIFT THAT'S HAPPENING AND WE'RE TAKING, UM, THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE'RE ADVERTISING. 
          DID YOU WANNA GO INTO ANY OF THE DETAILS? YEAH, YEAH. 
          I CAN GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL HERE. 
          SO TO KIND OF MIRROR WHAT CHARLIE WAS SAYING EARLIER ABOUT INFLUENCERS BEING A SIGNIFICANT PART OF, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE MAKING TRAVEL DECISIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PART OF THAT. 
          IN FACT, IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THAT. 
          UH, SO ONE THING WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT WE'RE KIND OF ACCORDING TO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE LESS SESSIONS, THAT'S LESS PEOPLE ACTUALLY COMING TO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES. 
          DESPITE THAT, THE NUMBER OF REFERRALS THAT'S PEOPLE ACTUALLY CLICKING OUT TO, UH, OUR WEBSITE, OUR PARTNER, UH, HAS GONE UP. 
          SO TO SEE LESS PEOPLE OVERALL, BUT MORE TOTAL PEOPLE 
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GOING AND GOING TO, UH, GOING AND COMING THROUGH OUR PARTNERS, UH, THAT MEANS WE ARE REACHING THAT QUALIFIED AUDIENCE THAT IS READY TO TRAVEL. 
          AND THAT'S A VERY ENCOURAGING SIGN WHEN YOU TAKE THAT BREAKDOWN. 
          I'LL HAVE CHIEF SPEAK TO IT, BUT AGAIN, LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE WEBSITE. 
          UM, VISITOR, UH, I SHOULD SAY, UM, UH, THOSE THAT ARE ACCESSING THE PLATFORM AND ENGAGING WITH OUR BRAND LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UM, FROM A SOCIAL MEDIA PERSPECTIVE THAN IT DOES ON THE WEBSITE. 
          YEAH, SO I'LL JUST BE BRIEF HERE. 
          THE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF SELF-EXPLANATORY. 
          OUR WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, SKEWED, UM, A LOT OLDER, UM, HERE ON, UM, ON SOCIALS, YOU SEE THAT SIGNIFICANTLY YOUNGER AUDIENCE. 
          HALF OUR AUDIENCE ON INSTAGRAM IS UNDER THE AGE OF 44. 
          UH, A QUARTER OF OUR AUDIENCE ON FACEBOOK IS UNDER THE AGE OF 44. 
          IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC THAT WE'RE HITTING, UH, WITH SOCIAL MEDIA. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT WE WANNA BE ABLE TO REACH. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT CHANNELS. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THAT QUALIFIED AUDIENCE. 
          OOPS. 
          I JUST QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE OUTREACHING TO, UM, OUR POTENTIAL VISITORS AND, UM, OUR VISITORS THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE BRAND, WE'RE REACHING 'EM THROUGH OUR AGREED UPON AND, UH, FIVE PILLARS THAT YOU SEE HERE. 
          AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO SOCIAL MEDIA, HOW MANY POSTS DID YOU SEE WITHIN EACH ONE? HOW ARE THEY ENGAGING WITH THOSE POSTS? NOT ONLY THROUGH THE ENGAGEMENT, BUT ALSO HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THEM AND THEN ARE THEY DOING SOMETHING WITH IT? SO WE TRACKED THAT AS WELL. 
          THAT WAS AN ASK OF, UM, OF OURS AS WE KIND OF ENTER INTO, UM, THE FIVE PILLAR PROMOTION. 
          BUT WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I THINK WE WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE AND SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON THE HOTEL HOME AND VILLA OCCUPANCY REPORT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THIS QUARTER THE NUMBERS WERE, UH, RELATIVELY FLAT. 
          WE HAD SLIGHTLY LESS OCCUPANCY AND UH, THIS IS THE, UH, TWO SOURCE NUMBERS. 
          SO THIS IS TAKING HOMO VILLA AND HOTEL AND PUTTING THEM INTO ONE METRIC. 
          WE HAD SLIGHTLY LOWER OCCUPANCY, UM, SLIGHTLY HIGHER A DR, AND THEN OVERALL THE REVENUE, UH, WAS FLAT COMPARED TO 2024. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT WE'RE HITTING THAT 2024 BENCHMARK. 
          UM, BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS KIND OF BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT HOW THAT MAY LOOK IN DIFFERENT SECTORS. 
          UH, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANNA CLARIFY. 
          UM, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOTELS AND HOMES AND VILLAS, UH, WE ESTIMATE RIGHT NOW THAT THERE ARE ROUGHLY AROUND, UH, 7,000 SHORT TERM RENTALS ON HILTON HEAD. 
          UH, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY CLOSE THOUGH, THE NUMBER THE TOWN HAS. 
          UM, I THINK BACK IN 2020, THAT NUMBER WAS ALREADY ABOVE, UH, 6,000. 
          AND I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER FLOATING AROUND, UH, THAT REFERS TO A SAMPLE SIZE. 
          UH, THE WAY WE REPORT IS BASED ON A SAMPLE OF THE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE STRS JUST TO GIVE US A, A BASELINE FOR REPORTING, UM, THE KPIS. 
          UM, BUT THAT DID NOT REPRESENT THE TOTAL STR INVENTORY ON THE ISLAND AT THAT TIME. 
          UM, SO DIVING DEEPER INTO, UH, WHAT THE METRICS LOOKED LIKE ACROSS THE, UM, ACROSS THE DIFFERENT SECTORS FOR THE SUMMER. 
          UM, HOMES AND VILLAS WERE DOWN SLIGHTLY IN OCCUPANCY OVER THE SUMMER. 
          WHEN I SAY SUMMER, I'M TALKING, UH, I, I STARTED IN APRIL JUST BECAUSE THE HERITAGE BRINGS IN SO MANY VISITORS. 
          OUR PEAK SEASON REALLY DOES START IN APRIL, APRIL, MAY, JUNE, JULY, AND THEN AUGUST TO CAPTURE THOSE LAST SECOND, UH, TRAVELERS BEFORE, UH, SCHOOL STARTS. 
          SO, UM, HOMES AND VILLAS WERE SLIGHTLY LOWER IN OCCUPANCY THAN 2024, BUT THEIR, UM, RATES AND THEIR REVENUE WERE HIGHER. 
          UM, HOTELS WERE SLIGHTLY LOWER IN OCCUPANCY, UH, BUT THEY WERE HIGHER IN RATE, UH, ALTHOUGH IT WASN'T QUITE ENOUGH TO OFFSET THE DROP IN OCCUPANCY. 
          UM, SO THEIR, UH, REVENUE WAS SLIGHTLY LOWER. 
          UM, BUT ONE THING I DO WANNA CALL ATTENTION TO IS THAT OUR FULL SERVICE PROPERTIES, AND WHEN I SAY FULL SERVICE, I'M TALKING ABOUT AN OCEANFRONT PROPERTY LIKE, UH, THE HILTON, UM, THEY'RE FARING A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE HOTELS OVERALL. 
          THEIR OCCUPANCY WAS ACTUALLY UP COMPARED TO 2024. 
          THEIR RATES ARE UP COMPARED TO 2024. 
          AND OF COURSE THAT MEANS THEIR REVENUE WAS ALSO UP COMPARED TO 2024. 
          IN FACT, THAT OCCUPANCY WAS THE HIGHEST IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2023. 
          UM, AND THAT'S THE SAME FOR, UM, YEAH, THE, UH, THAT'S THE SAME FOR VILLES. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM, UH, COUNCIL? IF I COULD ASK YOU TO GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES WHERE YOU'RE SHOWING THE DESTINATION VALUES AND THE POSTS? YES. 
          UH, YES. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, SO JUST LOOKING AT WELLNESS NUMBER OF POST 140 TOTAL IMPRESSIONS, ONE POINT, ALMOST 1.5 MILLION, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD ROI. 
          AND THEN I'M LOOKING AT ECOTOURISM, THE NUMBER OF POST 158 TOTAL IMPRESSIONS, 1.15 MILLION. 
          SO I LISTEN TO MAYOR AND I HAVE NOT BEEN HANGING OUT TOGETHER, . 
          I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN AWAY FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          BUT, UM, UM, ANYHOW, UM, BUT I APOLOGIZE FOR MY VOICE AS WELL, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THAT ROI RETURN ON INVESTMENT OF WHAT'S BEEN POSTED AND THE KIND OF IMPRESSIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING. 
          SO IT'S VERY HELPFUL, ESPECIALLY TO SEE WHEN WE HAVE DECIDED TO FOCUS. 
          AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN A STRONG ADVOCATE OF FOCUSING ON THESE DESTINATION VALUES WHEN WE FOCUS ON THAT, LOOK AT OUR RETURN. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S VERY, UM, UH, HELPFUL AND 
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HOPEFUL TO SEE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR KEY VALUES HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER COMMENTS, MS. TONER? YES. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION, UM, MARKET, UH, DISRUPTOR IS A GOOD WAY TO DESCRIBE IT, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU'LL BE INVOLVED IN A PILOT WITH GOOGLE TO GAIN BETTER UNDERSTANDING. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE IS, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST CAPTURING, UM, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY HIT THE WEBSITE. 
          BUT IS THERE A WAY TO CAPTURE THE, THE, THIS FRONT END, THIS NEW FRONT END AND GATHER STATISTICS ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES THAT'S HAPPENING AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS BEHIND THAT? ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT TWO THIRDS DO NOT GO FURTHER INTO THE CONTENT, RIGHT? YEAH, SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE MONITORING. 
          WE ARE SEEING, UM, THE BEGINNINGS OF BEING ABLE TO TRACK SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, RECENTLY, ONE OF GOOGLE'S NEWEST AI UPDATES ACTUALLY, UH, ALLOWED FOR, UH, THE TRACKING OF IMPRESSIONS. 
          UH, BASICALLY MEANING, UH, IT USED TO BE THAT IF YOU WERE PULLED INTO AN AI OVERVIEW AND SOMEONE READ IT AND MOVED ON, NOTHING HAPPENED. 
          WE DIDN'T GET ANY STATISTICS ON THAT. 
          NOW, IF I GOOGLE WHAT TO DO IN HILTON HAD EYE ON THIS WEEKEND, AND ONE OF THE SOURCES IS, UH, OUR WEBSITE, WE'LL ACTUALLY GET AN IMPRESSION FROM THAT, EVEN IF THE USER DOES NOT CLICK INTO THE WEBSITE. 
          SO THAT'S THE BEGINNING, BEGINNING OF TRACKING THAT PIECE. 
          UM, IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH GOOGLE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ROLLING OUT A MORE ROBUST WAY TO TRACK SOME OF THAT. 
          UM, THERE'S NOTHING SET IN STONE YET AS TO WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, THE LANDSCAPE IS EVOLVING INCREDIBLY FAST. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK SOMEONE ONCE SAID THAT WE'RE PROBABLY ONLY IN THE SECOND INNING. 
          I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY STILL IN THE GAME. 
          UM, BUT UH, AS MORE OF THAT INFORMATION COMES OUT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ABLE TO, UH, SHARE SOME OF THAT. 
          BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO BE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF THAT INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT. 
          AND THEN HOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CITED AS THE EXPERT? YOU KNOW, I DID THE SAME THING. 
          I WENT OUT AND, AND SAID WHAT TO DO ON HILTON HEAD? AND WHEN YOU CLICKED ON FOR THE LINK, YOU KNOW, THINGS POP UP ON THE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WITH ALL THE CONTENT. 
          AND THE FIRST COUPLE WERE YOUTUBERS, LIKE ONE WAS LADY IN LONDON, YOU KNOW, WITH 20,000 FOLLOWERS. 
          AND, AND I THOUGHT, HOW IS THAT OVER AND ABOVE, YOU KNOW, OUR SITES, UM, THAT HAVE THE INFORMATION. 
          SO WHAT CAN BE DONE IN REGARDS TO THAT? YEAH, SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, I MENTIONED EARLIER IS THAT THEY CALL IT SCHEMA MARKUP ON THE BACKEND. 
          AND IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, MAKING IT EASIER FOR AI TO SORT THROUGH YOUR WEBSITE AND FIND THE INFORMATION IT NEEDS. 
          THAT'S LIKE THE TECHNICAL PART OF IT. 
          BUT THE OTHER PART OF IT IS ACTUALLY, UH, REWORDING CONTENT TO BETTER MATCH THE KIND OF STUFF AI'S LOOKING FOR. 
          THERE'S CERTAIN WORDS THAT TREND BETTER WHEN THEY'RE RELATED TO OTHER WORDS ON YOUR WEBSITE. 
          UM, THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF IT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT. 
          AND THEN THE LAST THING, UM, THAT GOOGLE SHARED WITH US IS MAKING SURE YOUR INFORMATION IS HYPERLOCAL. 
          UM, THE REASON THAT YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF YOUTUBE OR INSTAGRAM, UH, STUFF IN THAT SEARCH NOW IS BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY PUTTING A PREMIUM ON LOCAL VOICES. 
          SO HIGHLIGHTING LOCAL VOICES, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT AT HEAD ANYWAY, UH, IS A GOOD WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INFORMATION IS SORTED HIGHER THAN OTHER SOURCES. 
          AND THEN ON THAT POINT, WITH THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AND, AND THAT HEATHER, UM, AND THE TEAM HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, HELP GIVING GUIDANCE THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON IS JUST THAT LOCAL CONTENT THAT WE'RE CAPTURING. 
          IT'S NOT ONLY IN OUR ADVERTISING, IT'S IN THE REVAMPING OF OUR YOUTUBE CHANNELS, IT'S GOING IN THROUGH OUR SOCIAL CONTENT. 
          AND SO TRULY EXPLAINING THAT DETAIL ON A, WE'RE GOING OUT EVERY SINGLE DAY TO CAPTURE CONTENT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S AVAILABLE ON THOSE CHANNELS. 
          AND AGAIN, HAVING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACROSS ALL THOSE CHANNELS. 
          SO, UM, IT'S BEING SEEN, HEARD, AND THEN PICKED UP. 
          SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST ONE SINGULAR EFFORT, IT'S, IT'S TAKING THAT CONCEPT OF WHAT IS GONNA BE THE NEXT THING AND THEN HAVING TO HIT IT ACROSS ALL THE DIFFERENT TOUCH POINTS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO A LOT OF THAT STUFF IS WE, WE ARE DOING AND APPLYING, AND THEN THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT'S WORK IN PROGRESS TAKES A LITTLE LONGER WITH LIKE VIDEO EDITING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE ALL IN PROCESS. 
          AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION I NOTICED ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA, IT'S HEAVILY SKEWED TOWARDS FEMALES. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE DOING TO CAPTURE THE ATTENTION OF MALES IN REGARDS TO TRAVEL TO HILTON HEAD? YEAH, I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA GO WHERE IN, IN THE PLATFORM WHERE THE DECISION MAKER IS OR WHERE THEY HAVE THAT TENDENCY TO BE THE STRONGEST. 
          AND SO WE DO SKEW A BIT FEMALE, WE GO TOWARDS THEM, BUT WE ALSO TRY TO CATER TOWARDS, UM, ACTIVITIES OR EVENTS OR EXCURSIONS OR EXPERIENCES THAT MIGHT CATER TO THE BROADER AUDIENCE TO KIND OF CAPTURE THEM AS WELL. 
          SO THAT COULD BE, UM, I'M GONNA BE VERY GENERAL, BUT WE COULD GO FROM A SPORTING PERSPECTIVE. 
          IT COULD BE PICKLEBALL OR IT COULD BE, UM, GOLF OR IT COULD BE TENNIS OR IT COULD BE FISHING. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE LITTLE NUANCES THAT WE CAN GO IN AND DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER WITH A MALE OR A FEMALE AND BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. 
          YES. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. 
          THANK YOU CHARLIE . 
          UM, I HAVE 
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TWO QUESTIONS. 
          I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST THAT A LOT OF THESE TOUCH POINTS AND IMPRESSIONS, UM, AND THOSE NUMBERS, UM, LIKE MY COLLEAGUE, UM, HAS POINTED OUT, HAVE GROWN AND ARE IMPRESSIVE. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T TRACK THE POINT OF SALE, RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          CORRECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S THE PART THAT IS INTERESTING TO ME THAT I WONDER HOW WE CAN DO THAT. 
          YOU HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE BUSINESSES ON THE ISLAND. 
          IS THERE A WAY TO SURVEY THEM TO INQUIRE SO THAT WE CAN REALLY DETERMINE HOW MUCH IMPACT TO THE ISLAND THERE IS? I GET THE IMPACT WITH REGARD TO THE, UM, AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT THE, ALL OF THESE IMPRESSIONS, UM, WOULD, WOULD COST US MM-HMM . 
          UM, BUT I REALLY WANNA KNOW THE IMPACT ON THE ISLAND. 
          AND SO THAT'S A POINT THAT IS STILL MISSING THAT I'M LOOKING FOR. 
          SO, UM, WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO WITH YOUR MEMBERS, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DEVELOPED SO THAT THAT CAN BE RECORDED. 
          AND THEN WITH REGARD TO MEMBERS, I KNOW I'VE ASKED BEFORE AND IT STILL CONCERNS ME, MAYBE IT'S CHANGED AND YOU CAN HELP ME OUT AND I'LL HAVE IT AT THIS POINT, BUT AS THE CHAMBER, YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR MEMBERSHIP AND AS OUR DMO, UM, THERE, UH, THERE'S AN EXPECTATION, AT LEAST I HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT OUR ATEX DOLLARS, WHICH SUPPORT YOU, WHICH ARE GENERATED ACROSS THE ISLAND, WILL INDEED, UM, BENEFIT EVERYONE ACROSS THE ISLAND, ALL OF THE BUSINESSES, AND NOT JUST THOSE WHO REMEMBER THROUGH THE CHAMBER. 
          HAS THAT CHANGED? I THINK WHAT WE LOOK TO DO, UM, COUNCILMAN BECKER IS TO TELL THE COMPREHENSIVE STORY. 
          AND SO WHETHER THAT BE THROUGH THE MEMBERSHIP BASE OR TELLING A LOCAL STORY, I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY REALLY IS TO ENSURE THAT THE STORY THAT IS TELLING IS A RISING TIDE THAT LIFTS ALL SHIPS. 
          AND SO RIGHT NOW THAT IS OUR FOCUS IS TO PUT THE, THE STRONG CONTENT TO TELL THE LOCAL STORY, TO TELL THE OPPORTUNITY OF WHAT THIS GREAT ISLAND HAS AND CAN BRING TO YOU FROM A VACATION STANDPOINT, BUT ALSO HOPEFULLY LONG TERM, UM, THEY BECOME A RESIDENT, RIGHT? I THINK WE'VE TALKED OFTEN ABOUT THAT GOAL THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SEVEN OR EIGHT VISITS, THEY'RE SHAKING THE HAND OF A REALTOR. 
          SO, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHY WE PUSH AND FOCUS SO, UM, STRONGLY ON THE FIVE PILLARS THAT WE'VE ALIGNED WITH. 
          UM, AND WE GO BACK TO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TELLING, UM, TELLING THAT DEEPER STORY. 
          SO THAT'S OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I THINK, UM, WE'VE, WE ARE DOING, UM, THE JOB OF TELLING THAT LOCAL STORY AS WELL, WHICH HAS BEEN, UM, EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO BRING FORWARD. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT IS THE END GOAL. 
          AS WE ALL KNOW, WE, MOST OF US STARTED, IF NOT AS AN ORIGINAL RESIDENT HERE, UM, BUT AS A VISITOR WHO BECAME A RESIDENT YEAH. 
          AND WORKED WITH THESE FINE FOLKS TO, TO FIND OUR PROPERTIES, BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER MY QUESTION. 
          MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE ADDRESSING, ARE WE ADVERTISING, ARE WE ENCOURAGING THROUGH OUR DMO ALL FOLKS TO COME AND EXPERIENCE IN ALL OF THE BUSINESSES ON THE ISLAND AND NOT HIGHLIGHTING JUST THOSE WHO ARE MEMBERS THROUGH THE CHAMBER? AND THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          AND THE, THE RESPONSE I, I, I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, WE CAN CHAT ABOUT IT, UM, IN, IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I'M LOOKING FOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. . 
          DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY TO REPORT THAT THE, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS OF HOMES AND VILLAS IN EACH OF THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS SINCE THE PANDEMIC HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN YOUR TO YEAR COMPARISON, BUT AT LEAST, UH, INCLUDING 25, BUT AT AT LEAST UH, 25 VERSUS 24, THAT THE REVENUE IS STAYING RELATIVELY HIGH, UH, FOR THE YES. 
          SO IN 2025 FOR THE SUMMER PERIOD, UH, HOLMAN VILLA OCCUPANCY, UM, WAS DOWN SLIGHTLY. 
          UH, I'M LOOKING AT ABOUT 1% RIGHT HERE, BUT THEIR RATES HAVE GONE UP, WHICH HAS LED TO THE INCREASE IN REVENUE. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NICE. 
          WE'LL 
          [7. Reports from Members of Town Council]
MOVE ON TO, UH, GENERAL REPORTS OF TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UH, ANY GENERAL REPORTS? MS. BECKER? I HAVE ONE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CONGRATULATE LOCAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION THAT BROUGHT A YOUNG MAN 19 YEARS OF AGE, A FRESHMAN AT AUTO, UM, AUBURN, UH, UNIVERSITY TO AN EVENT ON SUNDAY IN BLUFFTON AND THEN HERE ON THE ISLAND MONDAY AFTERNOON. 
          HIS NAME WAS BRIAN HOLAND AND HE'S INSPIRATIONAL. 
          HE'S ENGAGING AND HE'S MATURE BEYOND HIS YEARS. 
          AND HE BROUGHT A MESSAGE OF INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER OF HONESTY ALL RELATED TO 
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CIVIC DISCOURSE. 
          AND I WANT, IF YOU GET A CHANCE TO RECOMMEND A BOOK THAT HE WROTE, LOOK HIM UP. 
          TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK AT THE MESSAGE, SEE IF IT INSPIRES YOU. 
          IT DID. 
          AND, UM, I HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THIS TOWN WILL CONTINUE AN HONEST APPROACH TO CIVIC DISCOURSE. 
          UM, I DO HAVE ANOTHER ITEM. 
          MY COMPUTER HAS A, IT'S SOMEWHAT RELATED. 
          MY COMPUTER KEEPS JUMPING ON IT, SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL STOP DOING THAT. 
          ONE STOP. 
          THERE'S AN EMAIL TO IN FACT, THAT I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THAT HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED IN A VARIETY OF PLACES, INCLUDING SOCIAL MEDIA SITES. 
          AND I MAY NEED PROTECTION FRANKLY AFTER THIS. 
          SOME OF MY COMMENTS, UM, I'LL MAKE THAT COMMENT LATER. 
          SOCIAL MEDIA SITES BY A TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          THAT IS INCORRECT IN MY OPINION AND INAPPROPRIATE IN MY OPINION. 
          THE EMAIL GOES AN ILLUSTRATION AND A CLAIM UNDER BUSINESS NEWS THAT AMERICA'S FAVORITE ISLAND IS CLOSED. 
          THAT'S UNTRUE. 
          THE PROCLAMATION IS FALSE, WRONG AND DELIBERATELY MISLEADING. 
          HILTON HEAD ISLAND, AKA AMERICA'S FAVORITE ISLAND IS INDEED ABSOLUTELY OPEN FOR BUSINESS. 
          I REQUEST, IN FACT, I DEMAND THAT THERE IS A RETRACTION BY THAT TOWN COUNCIL, MY COLLEAGUE, YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE. 
          AS THIS CLICKBAIT DOES DAMAGE TO OUR TOWN. 
          MS. BECKER, I'M GONNA ASK CAUSE PANIC AND ANXIETY. 
          MS. BECKER, I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE NOT DO THAT DURING THIS GENERAL, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          UM, ATTACKING ANOTHER, UH, COUNCIL PERSON IS NOT APPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT. 
          I'M NOT ATTACKING THE COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          I'M ATTACKING PUBLIC. 
          WE, WE CAN TAKE OFF OFFLINE. 
          I WOULD LIKE IT OFFLINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER MR. ALFRED? UH, LAST MONTH I REPORTED DEVELOPMENTS WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE TRAFFIC AND OTHER ISSUES AT SEA PINE CIRCLE INDICATING THAT THE TOWN AND CSA SEA PINES HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THE CIRCLE AND GREENWOOD ROAD AND TRYING TO BRING IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          THREE OUT OF FOUR SPOKES THAT GO INTO THE CIRCLE ARE STATE ROADS. 
          THE CIRCLE ITSELF IS A STATE ROAD. 
          SO CSA AND THE TOWN BELIEVE THAT THE STATE COULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN MOVING THAT PROJECT ALONG. 
          UM, NOT THE LEAST OF THE REASONS IS THEY MAY THEY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN WE DO. 
          UM, THAT REQUEST WAS, UH, SUBMITTED AT A MEETING AND I WANTED TO REPORT THAT ON SEPTEMBER 30, THE STATE DOT WILL BE REPORTING BACK TO THE TOWN AND CSA AS TO THEIR VIEWS AS TO THE NEXT STEP REGARDING CINE CIRCLE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER GENERAL REPORTS? ALRIGHT, I JUST QUICK REMINDER, UM, IN CASE Y'ALL ARE NOT AWARE, UM, OUR TOWN CODE ORDINANCE STATES THAT OUR MEETINGS NEED TO END BY 8:00 PM UM, AND YOU LAUGH NOW, BUT TRUST ME, AS WE'VE BEEN HERE AT 10 30 AT NIGHT, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO HOLD TRUE TO. 
          UM, I WANNA REMIND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WHEN WE GET INTO DISCUSSION ON DIFFERENT ITEMS, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          THAT IS ALSO IN OUR CODE, UH, TOWN ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE NEED TO BE EXPEDITIOUS AND, AND CAREFUL IN, IN HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL GO INTO, UH, REPORTS. 
          MS. BECKER LOW COUNTRY AREA TRANSPORTATION STUDY. 
          UM, THANK, THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING, UM, SINCE MY LAST MEETING THAT I REPORTED ON. 
          HOWEVER, I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL THAT I WANT TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT I BRING FORWARD. 
          AND IT IS THAT SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REQUESTS INPUT ON I 95 CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. 
          UH, THE S-C-D-O-T WILL HOLD A DROP IN PUBLIC MEETING ON OCTOBER 2ND, 2025 ABOUT PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT TO INTERSTATE 95 FROM EXIT 22 RIDGELAND TO EXIT 33 US 17 IN JASPER COUNTY. 
          ATTENDEES WILL BE ABLE TO VIEW PROJECT PLAN DISPLAYS, LEARN ABOUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT, AND TALK WITH SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REPRESENTATIVES. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT IS TO IMPROVE CAPACITY AND MOBILITY AND TO ADDRESS OPERATIONAL AND STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCY ON 
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BRIDGES AND INTERCHANGES ALONG I 95 FROM MILE MARKER 21 TO 33. 
          AND, UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT PROPOSED PROJECT, FIX THE DRIVE 90 FIVE.COM, UM SLASH MM, 22 TO 33 IS WHERE YOU WOULD GO. 
          AND THE MEETING IN PERSON IS THE RIDGELAND BAPTIST CHURCH. 
          UM, 1 1 1 4 4 8 GRAVES HIGHWAY IN RIDGELAND, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 2ND, FIVE TO SEVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MR. ALFRED. 
          LOW COUNTRY, UH, COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. 
          NO REPORT. 
          THANK YOU MS. TURNER. 
          UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY AIRPORTS. 
          YES. 
          UH, THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT RECENTLY HAD AN FAA INSPECTION AND ONE OF THE ITEMS IDENTIFIED CONCERNED THE HEIGHT OF TREES OFF PROPERTY, THE ONES THAT AT THE END OF THE RUNWAYS AND IN THE APPROACH AREAS THERE'S A SAFETY RELATED CONCERN THAT THE TREES ARE TOO HIGH AND THE SITUATION SHOULD BE RECTIFIED. 
          SO NEXT STEPS WILL BE TO COMPLETE A TREE SURVEY AND HAVE AN ARBORIST DETERMINE HOW MUCH TO TRIM. 
          AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY SOME TREES MAY, MAY NEED TO BE REMOVED IF THEY ARE EXCESSIVELY TRIMMED. 
          THE SURVEY IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN SIX MONTHS. 
          UM, THE AIRPORT DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR ALSO MENTIONED IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE TYPE OF AGREEMENT. 
          THOSE ARE MY WORDS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE TRIMMING OF TREES ON A REGULAR BASIS AS AS NEEDED FOR SAFETY PURPOSES. 
          THE SECOND ITEM IS A CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE. 
          A RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED TO GO TO COUNTY COUNCIL, IMPOSING A CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE ON RENTAL CAR CONTRACTS AT THE AIRPORT. 
          THE IS TO CHARGE $6 A DAY AND COLLECT THE MONEY TO OFFSET EXPENSES AND LOST REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RENTAL CAR COMPANIES, SUCH AS CONSTRUCTING A NEW EXPANDED RENTAL CAR SERVICE AND PARKING FACILITY, OPERATING EXPENSES FOR THE RENTAL FACILITY AND LOSS OF PUBLIC PARKING INCOME. 
          AND MOST RENTAL COMPANIES AT AIRPORTS HAVE A CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T EVEN NOTICE WHEN YOU, UH, GO AND RENT A CAR. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MS. BRYSON. 
          SO THE LOW COUNTRY REGIONAL BOARD? YES, SIR. 
          SOKO MET ON AUGUST 26TH, 2025. 
          WE WERE ALWAYS ENTERTAINED BY MARY MAYOR HARRY OF HARDY OR SPACESHIP HARVILLE. 
          UM, THE ITEMS FOR THE AUGUST 26TH MEETING WHERE THE ALZHEIMER'S WALK IN BLUFFTON, WHICH STILL OCCUR ON OCTOBER 25TH, 2025. 
          ALSO, THERE WAS A REPORT FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS FOR THE REGION. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THERE WAS A REPORT ABOUT THE NEW HARDY BILL, YMCA BY THE CEO AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. 
          AND, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, CONCEPTS THERE IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CHILDCARE FACILITIES AT THE NEW YMCA IN HARDY BILL. 
          THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE IN HARDY BILL, UH, NEXT TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23 AT 10:00 AM AND THE, UH, BUSINESS TOPICS WILL BE USB'S EXPANSION PLANS. 
          AND ALSO HARDY BILL WILL GIVE AN UPDATE ON ITS AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES. 
          THAT'S MY REPORT, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. BROWN ISLAND RECREATION ASSOCIATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          THE HOLLER RECREATION CENTER HAD ITS, UH, BOARD STAFF PLANNING SESSION ON LAST WEEK, AND, UM, ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT WAS, UH, MS. LEAH ARNOLD BEING SIGNED ON AS THE ON INCOMING, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. 
          SO WE CONGRATULATE HER. 
          UM, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO THANK MR. FRANK SOUL WHO'S IN THE CROWD HERE TODAY FOR HIS SERVICE. 
          UM, THIS WILL HAVE BEEN THE LAST ANNUAL PLANNING SESSION THAT HE FACILITATED, AND, UH, AS USUAL, FRANK DID A GREAT JOB. 
          UM, AS WE RECOGNIZED NATIONAL SENIOR MONTH EARLIER PART OF THE PLANNING SESSION, DISCUSSED HOW THE ASSOCIATION CAN DO BETTER AS FAR AS OUR SENIOR CENTER PROGRAMS, FACILITIES, AND EXPANDING ITS COMMUNITY OUTREACH. 
          UH, OTHER ITEMS WERE INCREASED FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL POOL. 
          UM, AS A SIDE NOTE, I WENT TO THE POOL ON THIS SUNDAY. 
          IT WAS A MEET THERE. 
          UM, I LEARNED HOW TO SWIM IN THE CREEK . 
          UH, BUT IT WAS QUITE IMPRESSIVE TO SEE THE NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, THAT WERE COMPETING IN OUR LOCAL FACILITY. 
          UM, AND I WILL ALSO ADD THAT IT WAS QUITE OVERWHELMING THE AMOUNT OF, AND THEM TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE MEETS. 
          I LEAVE THAT THERE 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT POOL CAPACITY HERE ON HILTON MAN. 
          UM, ALSO THE DISCUSSION LED US TO DEVELOPING STAFF FOR THE NEW PICKLEBALL CENTER THAT WE ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE IN FISCAL 27, UH, WORKING WITH THE TOWN STAFF TO DEVELOP A FISCAL YEAR 27 CIP PROPOSAL FOR THE TOWN BUDGET. 
          UM, I WILL JUST ADD, UH, TO MY COLLEAGUES 
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HERE, UM, IT WAS A VERY VIVID DISCUSSION. 
          UM, THEY HAD ABOUT 20 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM TO INCLUDE STAFF AND OF COURSE, UH, BOARD AND VOLUNTEERS. 
          UM, I, I WILL SAY THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE REC CENTER CONTINUES TO IMPROVE. 
          THEY WELCOMED ME AS A LIAISON. 
          OBVIOUSLY. 
          I HAD COMMENTS TO MAKE, OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE QUESTIONS TO ME. 
          UM, BUT THE RELATIONSHIP IS BETTER THAN I FOUND IT WHEN I FIRST GOT, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I SAY THAT PUBLICLY TO EVERYONE AND WE STRIVE TO CONTINUE AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH LEAH IN THE FUTURE. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. 
          WHILE THERE WAS REALLY NO NEW BUSINESS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID BRING UP AND DISCUSS WITH THE BOARD AND STAFF IS WORKING WITH OUR BUSINESSES ALONG THE AIRPORT CORRIDOR, UM, FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE IMPACTED BY FUTURE EXPANSION OF, OF A TAXIWAY AND THOSE PROPERTIES, WHICH MAY, UH, BE BEATEN UP. 
          UM, SO I PUSHED HARD ON THAT. 
          WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE EDC AND THOSE BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT CORRIDOR AREA THAT MAY BE AFFECTED AS THOSE, UM, CHALLENGES MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, GULLAH GEECHEE, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, MR. BROWN. 
          THANKS AGAIN, MR. MAYOR. 
          UH, THE CDC WILL MEET TOMORROW AT 10:00 AM THE AGENDA INCLUDES A PRESENTATION FROM SOLE ON THE NEW WAY FOUNDING APPLICATION AND THE CDC WEBSITE ON OCTOBER 2ND. 
          THE CDC WILL HOST A LAUNCH GATHERING AT THE ROARING AND SAILING CENTER. 
          HEY, WE GOTTA GET TOGETHER BY CHANGING THAT NAME. 
          . 
          UH, THE EXPERIENCE GULLAH APPLICATION IS DESIGNED TO PROMOTE GULLAH CULTURE AWARENESS, UTILIZING TECHNOLOGY TO TELL THE STORIES AND ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE. 
          ATTENDEES WILL BE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD THE APPLICATION AND RECEIVE A BRIEF DEMO ON HOW IT WORKS. 
          IN ADDITION, THE CDC WILL HOLD THIS MONEY TALKS FINANCIAL EDUCATION SEMINAR TONIGHT. 
          UM, SOME OF YOU PROBABLY NOT GONNA MAKE THAT HERE. 
          UM, FROM FIVE 30 TO 7:00 PM AT THE ISLAND RECREATION CENTER, UH, PRESENTED FROM THE USC, JOSEPH F. RICE SCHOOL OF LAW WILL DISCUSS THE LEGAL ASPECTS OF BUSINESS FORMATION. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UH, MS. BECKER COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, YESTERDAY THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MET, AND IT'S MY PRIVILEGE AS THE CHAIR TO REPORT THAT THE COMMITTEE HELD A ROBUST FOUR HOUR OPEN CONVERSATION IN DISCUSSION WITH THE PUBLIC AND ALL TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE, UM, AT WILL. 
          UM, MAYOR, WE REALIZED THAT YOU WEREN'T WELL, BUT, UM, THERE WERE FIVE OTHERS WHO ATTENDED OF THE SEVEN AND WE MISSED PRESENCE. 
          UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN SKIP THROUGH SOME OF MY NOTES HERE SO I CAN MAKE THIS SHORTER. 
          UM, THERE WAS POSITIVE MOVEMENT, UM, WITH REGARD TO A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL MANAGEMENT ACROSS THE ISLAND. 
          MANY OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE Y'ALL READ ABOUT, WE ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGED. 
          THOSE WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING IN DISCUSSING IT, PROVIDING OUR TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF DIRECTION AND TO, AND FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD TO, UM, REFINE AND TO BRING BACK TO OUR COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THEM ONTO TOWN COUNCIL FOR A VOTE. 
          SO THERE IS POSITIVE FORWARD MOTION. 
          THE PROVERBIAL BALL IS INDEED MOVING. 
          THERE IS, UM, ATTENTION BEING GIVEN TO THIS, UM, ISSUE, AND I WELCOME EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO PARTICIPATE AS WE DISCUSS IT. 
          UM, AGAIN, UM, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL COME UP VERY SOON. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DATE WILL BE, BUT I'M, I AM OFFERING AND HAVE OFFERED SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO FACILITATE, UM, THAT MOVEMENT OF THOSE ITEMS WITH REGARD TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          THE COMMITTEE'S NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING WILL TAKE PLACE ON OCTOBER 20TH, ALTHOUGH THAT SPECIAL MEETING IS BEING, UH, FINALIZED. 
          AND THAT WILL BE, IF YOU MARK YOUR CALENDARS OCTOBER 6TH ON THE AGENDA, UM, ARE ITEMS SUCH AS DISCUSSION OF A HOLIDAY HOMES NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER OVERLAY AMENDMENT, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A STANDARD STORMWATER AGREEMENT FOR THE CEDAR WOODS SUBDIVISION. 
          A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ACC ACCEPTANCE OF ROADWAYS IN THE CEDAR WOODS SUBDIVISION, KNOWN AS SONG SPARROW LANE, PHOEBE LANE AND GOLD FINCH LANE. 
          AND A REPORT ON THE RECENT STORMWATER EVENTS, RAINFALL COMMUNITY IMPACTS RELATED, AND THE TOWN'S RESPONSE. 
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WE WILL ALSO BE DISCUSSING, UM, TO VIEWING FOR SOME VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE ON BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOU SEE ANYTHING OF INTEREST TO YOU, UM, PLEASE, UM, FILL IN THE APPLICATION AND, AND SEND THEM INTO OUR TOWN CLERK, UM, SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW THOSE AT THAT TIME. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 
          OKAY, AND MR. BROWN FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, YES, MR. MAYOR. 
          UH, THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH AT 10:00 AM UH, TWO AGENDA ITEMS, UM, I'M SORRY, THREE. 
          UH, ONE IS THE FY 26 FINANCIAL UPDATE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE MUNICIPAL CODE DEALING WITH BUSINESS LICENSE ORDINANCE TO UPDATE THE BUSINESS LICENSE CLASS SCHEDULE AS REQUIRED BY ACTS 1 76 OF 2020. 
          WE WILL ALSO CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE PROVIDING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND SPECIAL OBLIGATION BONDS WITH A BEACH PRESERVATION FEE PLEDGE. 
          THIS IS DEALING WITH OUR BEACH RENOURISHMENT, UM, AND THE AMOUNT TO NOT EXCEED $19 MILLION. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          AND WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          [8. Consent Agenda]
UH, ITEM EIGHT A. 
          THIS WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY FIRST READING ON AUGUST 19TH, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          WE GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? KIM, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? CHESTER WILLIAMS, JACK WILLIAMS? I DON'T SEE HIM. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          WHO WAS THE WHO FIRST? WHO FIRST AND SECOND? IT WAS MS. BRYSON. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO, MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW 
          [9.a. Consideration of a Resolution Approving the 2025-2029 Five-Year Consolidated Plan as Required by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) for Participation in the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Entitlement Program - Michele Bunce, Senior Grants Administrator]
BUSINESS. 
          WE HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION I APPRO THE 25 29 5 YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AS REQUIRED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND IRMA DEVELOPMENT, HUD FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, CDBG ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM. 
          MICHELLE BRUCE. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY. 
          THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN TO THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE. 
          SO THIS IS YOUR 20 25, 20 29 5 YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE HUB PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DO EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          INCLUDED IN THAT IS YOUR FIRST YEAR ACTION PLAN AS WELL. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBERS AT THE TIME AT THE F AND A MEETING DID, UM, ACTUALLY ASK FOR ONE ITEM AND THEY REQUESTED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING FUTURE POTENTIAL USES OF CDBG FUNDS BEYOND THE PARK PROJECTS, SPECIFICALLY FOR PROGRAMS LIKE HOME SAFETY, REPAIR, AND LATERAL CONNECTIONS. 
          SO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND CDBG FUNDS ARE, UM, AVAILABLE TO USE FOR HOUSING, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT WORKFORCE HOUSING. 
          AND THEY ARE DEFINED DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO WE DEFINITELY NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, IN ADDITION, AS A REQUEST FOR THAT REQUEST, STAFF WILL BE ATTENDING THE SOUTH CAROLINA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION MEETING NEXT MONTH BECAUSE THE TOPIC OF SC STATE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING ALTERNATIVES AND INVESTMENTS ARE A TOPIC. 
          SO WE WILL BE ATTENDING THAT, THEREFORE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING MORE INFORMATION BACK TO YOU AS A WHOLE ON OTHER FUNDING ALTERNATIVES AS WELL. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE MET WITH MR. JOSEPH MITCHELL, WHO IS THE GREAT PLAINS REGIONAL ADMINISTRATION, AND HE HAS, UM, ACTUALLY GIVEN US MORE INFORMATION TO YOU ABOUT OTHER FUNDING ALTERNATIVES. 
          THE MAYOR WAS IN ATTENDANCE OF THAT MEETING. 
          UM, THEREFORE WE'LL BE COMING FORWARD A LITTLE BIT LATER FOR YOU, WITH YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. 
          THIS COMP PLAN IS A REQUIREMENT, AS I SAID, OF THE CDBG ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM. 
          IT IS ALIGNED WITH THE TOWN'S BUDGET AND STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          AS WITH ANYTHING, WE MAKE SURE WE KEEP IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT. 
          HUD HAS ALREADY APPROVED THIS PLAN AND THEY'VE ALREADY ISSUED THE FUNDING AGREEMENT, WHICH IS WONDERFUL. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS. 
          THE F AND A COMMITTEE DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO FORWARD THIS PLAN TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL VIA A RESOLUTION. 
          SO THEREFORE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT TO ASK FOR THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION. 
          OKAY? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND, KIM, IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? SEEING NONE. 
          WE HAVE A FIRST BY MS. BRYSON, SECOND BY MS. BECKER. 
          ALL THIS IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT, THANK YOU. 
          NEXT WE HAVE 
          [9.b. Consideration of a Resolution of Support from the Town of Hilton Head Island for a Childcare and Early Learning Pilot Project Utilizing the Tri-Share Funding Model - Angie Stone, Assistant Town Manager]
CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND FOR CHILDCARE ON EARLY LEARNING PILOT PROJECT, UTILIZING THE TRI SHARE FUNDING MODEL. 
          ANGIE STONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          ANGIE STONE, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER. 
          UM, FOR THE RECORD, UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MR. ORLANDO. 
          UH, I'M HERE TO BRING FORTH A RESOLUTION, UH, FROM SO LOCO, UH, TO, UM, SUPPORT A CHILDCARE FUNDING SOURCE OR FUNDING, UM, MODEL THAT WOULD IN INCLUDE, UH, FUNDING FROM THE PARENT, THE EMPLOYER, AND THE STATE. 
          UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION, OR SOCO 
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ASKED US TO BRING THIS BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          UM, AND THE RESOLUTION WOULD SIMPLY BE SUPPORT OF THIS BODY, UH, FOR THIS TO GO TO OUR DELEGATION AND THE JASPER COUNTY DELEGATION TO BRING BEFORE THE STATE AS A POTENTIAL PILOT PROJECT HERE IN THE, IN THE LOCAL AREA. 
          ALRIGHT, IS THERE A MOTION? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO, SIR. 
          SIR, ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL JUST BRIEFLY AS A MEMBER OF THE LOC O BOARD? THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. 
          WE HAVE A, A CRYING NEED. 
          I SHOULDN'T SAY CRYING NEED OF COURSE. 
          CHILDREN DO CRY. 
          UM, , AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, MY MOM HAD A DAYCARE CENTER FOR OVER 35 YEARS IN GASTON COUNTY IN NORTH CAROLINA. 
          THERE'S A CRIME NEED FOR CHILDCARE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, UH, JASPER AND BEAUFORT COUNTIES. 
          THIS IS A MODEL THAT CAN BE HELPFUL TO DO THAT. 
          THE TRI SHARE, IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES. 
          UM, AND THIS IS TO ASK THE LOCAL DELEGATION TO URGE THE FUNDING OF THIS KIND OF MODEL, A NUMBER OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS, UH, WITHIN. 
          SO LOCO HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED THIS RESOLUTION, AND I URGE OUR TOWN COUNCIL TO ALSO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE CHILDCARE TO BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTIES. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MS. BECKER. 
          UM, SPEAKING OF THE FUNDING SOURCES, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? THE FUNDING SOURCES? A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCES. 
          UM, SO THE, THE FUNDING MODEL HAS BEEN USED IN SEVERAL OTHER STATES, AND IT IS A, AN EVEN SPLIT BETWEEN THE PARENT, THE EMPLOYER, AND THE STATE. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, WHAT S LOCO HAS ASKED US TO HAVE YOU CONSIDER IS, UM, SUPPORTING THIS GOING FORWARD TO THE STATE LEVEL, UM, TO RECOMMEND A PILOT PROGRAM HERE IN THE LOCAL, UM, IN THE LOCAL AREA. 
          IT DOES NOT OBLIGATE THE TOWN TO FUND THIS NECESSARILY. 
          UM, IT IS THE STATE, THE EMPLOYER, AND THE, UM, AND THE, THE PARENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I'LL ALSO SAY THAT, UM, I BELIEVE HARDY IS ACTUALLY DOING AN EXPERIMENT ON THIS THEMSELVES TO SEE HOW WELL IT WORKS. 
          SO, ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A FIRST BY MS. UH, MOTION BY MS. BRY AND SECOND BY MR. ALFRED. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, APPROVAL SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          OPPOSED, THAT WOULD BE SIX TO ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, REAL QUICK, CAN Y'ALL HEAR EVERYBODY OKAY OUT THERE? OKAY. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, JUST MY EARS ARE CLOGGED UP. 
          NEXT 
          [9.c. Consideration of a Resolution Delineating Names and Missions for Town Council Subcommittees - Shawn Leininger, Deputy Town Manager]
WE HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION, DELINEATING NAMES AND MISSIONS FOR TOWN COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES ON 8 25, THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED BY A VOTE OF TWO TO ONE, THE NAMES AND ADMISSIONS FOR THE STANDING COMMITTEES. 
          MR. LAER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR PERRY, MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL, MR. TOWN MANAGER. 
          UH, THIS REQUEST HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 25TH, WHERE IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF TWO TO ONE. 
          STAFF DID PRESENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, A RECOMMENDED A PATH FORWARD FOR THIS, FOR THIS RESOLUTION. 
          UH, THERE WERE CHANGES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE, AND I'LL SHARE IT WITH YOU WHAT THOSE, WHAT THOSE CHANGES WERE. 
          UH, JUST FOR SOME QUICK BRIEF BACKGROUND ON WHY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU DID ADOPT, UH, A RESOLUTION, I'M SORRY, AN ORDINANCE TO, TO OUR TOWN CODE THAT ESTABLISHED A NEW PROCESS FOR OUR COMMITTEES. 
          UH, PREVIOUSLY WE HAD THREE STANDING COMMITTEES. 
          UH, THIS ORDINANCE, AS IT WAS ADOPTED, UH, CLARIFY THAT TO BE A MINIMUM OF TWO TOWN COUNCIL HAS DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH TWO, UH, AS THAT MINIMUM. 
          AND THIS STARTS TO, AS YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN, STARTS TO DEAL WITH NUMBER TWO, THE NAMES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF OUTSTANDING COMMITTEES TO BE ESTABLISHED BY RESOLUTION. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL ACCOMPLISH HERE TODAY IF ADOPTED. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, WHEN WE, AS THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE, TO THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 25TH, UH, STAFF HAD PRESENTED, UH, A, A MISSION AND PROPOSED AREAS OF FOCUS. 
          UH, THE FIRST WAS FOR THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE THAT IS KEEPING THE SAME NAME, THE SAME GENERAL PURPOSE AND, AND STA AND, AND PROCESS OR, OR AREA OF FOCUS, I SHOULD SAY, UH, FOR THAT COMMITTEE. 
          WHAT IT DOES IS IT, UH, FOR THE MISSION, THE FINANCES ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE WOULD, AMONG OTHER THINGS, LOOK AT REVENUES EXPENDITURES, ACCOMMODATIONS TAX, UH, MAINTAINING GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS, AND ALSO WORK WITH THE, THE GULLAH GEECHEE, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, CDC. 
          THERE WERE SOME SPECIFIC AREAS OF FOCUS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED. 
          UH, TOWN REVENUES, FEE STRUCTURES, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT RELATED TO WHAT'S OUTLINED ABOVE, UH, IN THE MISSION STATEMENT, INCLUDING TAX, SACRAMENT FINANCING MATTERS. 
          THE SECOND COMMITTEE WAS THEN GOING TO BE, UH, A NEW, A NEW NAME, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE UNDER THE NOW NEW NAME OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC SERVICES COMMITTEE. 
          THAT MISSION, UM, AGAIN, GENERALLY ALIGNED WITH THE, THE CURRENT DIRECTION THAT, UH, THE, THAT COMMITTEE IS ALIGNED WITH OR FOCUSED ON WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES, SERVICES, UH, OVERSEEING, UH, SERVICES INCLUDING OUR PARKS, RECREATION, UH, BUT THEN ALSO OVERSEEING MATTERS RELATED TO OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THE APPOINTMENT OF, OF, OF MEMBERS TO THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, 
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THE FOCUS AREAS THAT ARE ALIGNED, UH, WITH THAT MISSION. 
          CIP, PARKS AND REC, ARTS AND CULTURE, HURRICANE RESPONSE AND RESILIENCY, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND AGAIN, THE, THE, THE APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          UH, AS I WENT TO THE, TO THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE, THERE WERE, THERE WERE SEVERAL, UH, RECOMMENDED CHANGES. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, WITHIN THE MISSION, UH, IF WE LOOK AT THE, I'M SORRY, LET'S START WITH THE NAMES. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE NAMES, THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE WOULD BECOME THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. 
          AND THE MISSION WOULD LARGELY BE THE SAME. 
          THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION WITHIN THE MISSION ITSELF, UH, WITH, UH, PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL SPECIFICITY INSTEAD OF JUST STATING REVENUE SOURCES POINTING TO FEE STRUCTURES, PROCUREMENT, AND, UH, AND REVENUE SOURCES, ALTERNATIVE REVENUE SOURCES, UH, WITHIN, RATHER THAN HAVE AREAS OF FOCUS. 
          UH, THE CHANGE HERE WAS TO THEN INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDED OR THE, THE, THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN GOALS. 
          IF RECALL, FROM YOUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, THERE ARE 10 GOALS. 
          UH, THOSE GOALS WERE THEN DIVIDED OUT BETWEEN THE TWO COMMITTEES, AND YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE ON THE SCREEN. 
          UM, TAKING ITEMS 5, 7, 8, AND NINE, UH, FROM THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AND ASSIGNING 'EM TO THIS, TO THE, TO THE FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. 
          THE NEXT CHANGE THEN WAS FOR THE, THE, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, WAS TO TAKE AND RENAME THAT COMMITTEE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. 
          THIS, THE MISSION STAYED LARGELY THE SAME. 
          UH, THE, THE KEY CHANGES HERE WERE, AGAIN, TO THE FOCUS AREAS. 
          THE FOCUS AREAS WERE REMOVED. 
          AND INSTEAD, ACTION ITEM ARE THE GOALS FROM THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN. 
          WERE, WERE INSERTED HERE. 
          UH, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT BETWEEN THESE TWO TOPICS, GOALS ONE AND 10 ARE, ARE NOT INCLUDED. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED THAT GOAL ONE, HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO FLOAT BETWEEN EITHER OF THE TWO COMMITTEES. 
          UH, AND THE GOAL ONE IS TO PROTECT ALAN CHARACTER THROUGH MANAGING GROWTH. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM IS ITEM 10, GOAL 10. 
          UH, THIS WAS RELATED TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MASTER PLAN PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS. 
          THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE FELT THAT THIS ITEM, UH, IS REALLY RELATED TO A BUDGETARY ITEM AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE BALANCE OF ALL BY THE FULL COUNCIL RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE. 
          SO THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FORWARD BY A VOTE OF TWO TO ONE, UH, TO, TO THE DOWNTOWN TOWN COUNCIL. 
          TONIGHT, THE, OR THE RESOLUTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS, IS TAILORED PER THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE. 
          UH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A MOTION? YES, SIR. 
          MAYOR, I RECOMMEND AND, UH, PRESENT A MOTION THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL, UM, APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY STAFF IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. 
          I'M SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, KIM, IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL, PLEASE. 
          MAYOR, I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO INSTEAD REPLACE THE MOTION WITH THE DRAFT RESOLUTION BEFORE US. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? MOTION FAILS. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? YES, SIR. 
          I'M HAPPY TO START. 
          UM, SO AT OUR TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON THE STRAT PLAN IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, THE CONSULTANT SAID THAT THE TOWN MANAGER AND MAYOR NEEDED SOME ASSISTANCE IN FIGURING OUT HOW TO DIRECT, UM, STRAT PLAN MATTERS AND OTHER MATTERS TO THE THEN TO, UH, TOWN COUNCIL COMMITTEES. 
          UH, THE MUNICIPAL CODE AT THE TIME REQUIRED THREE TOWN COUNCIL COMMITTEES, AND WE DID NOT HAVE A PUBLIC PLANNING COMMITTEE APPOINTED. 
          SO DURING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STRAT PLAN, UM, IT SEEMED TO ME AS THOUGH, UM, TRYING TO, UM, SHOEHORN ALL OF THE TOPICS OF THE NEW STRAP PLAN INTO TWO COMMITTEES WOULD BE STANDING THE PROCESS ON ITS HEAD. 
          INSTEAD, WE NEEDED MORE FLEXIBILITY IN OUR MUNICIPAL CODE BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS, THERE HAD BEEN VARIOUS NAMES OF TOWN COUNCIL COMMITTEES AND VARIOUS FOCUSES OF TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          SO INSTEAD OF BEING CONSTRAINED BY THE MUNICIPAL CODE WITH PRIOR NAMES, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO NAME THE COMMITTEES ONCE WE HAD ADOPTED A STRAT PLAN. 
          AND THE STRAT PLAN IS GOOD FOR THREE YEARS, SO THE COMMITTEE WOULD, THEN, THOSE COMMITTEES WOULD THEN BE NAMED FOR THE THREE YEARS TO HELP WITH THE POLICY MATTERS, CARRYING OUT THE STRAT PLAN. 
          SO IT SEEMED TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO THAT, AND THAT THIS TOWN COUNCIL DID AMEND THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE NEW, UM, CODE AS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT TODAY. 
          SO THAT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO NAME THESE COMMITTEES AND 
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TO ADDRESS THE MATTERS THAT NEED TO COME BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE STRAT PLAN. 
          SO IN LOOKING AT THE NAMES OF THE COMMITTEES AND LOOKING AT THE 10, PARDON ME, THE 10 GOALS OF A START PLAN, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT NOTWITHSTANDING WHO'S SERVING ON THE COMMITTEES, CHAIRING THE COMMITTEE, THAT TO DIVIDE IT BY THOSE TASKS AND, AND HENCE THE SUGGESTION OF DIVIDING THE GOALS. 
          AND IF WE COULD PUT UP THE ORIGINAL MOTION, UH, SORRY, THE ORIGINAL, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE US TODAY, I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 
          MIGHT SAVE MY VOICE A LITTLE BIT TOO. 
          SO IF YOU COULD GO ON TO THE NEXT GOOD. 
          SCROLL UP. 
          UP, I GUESS THAT IS. 
          SO, YEAH, WELL, THERE WE GO. 
          . 
          UM, SO THE, THE FINANCE, I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY WE WERE CALLED FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION IS OPERATIONAL, AND THAT'S THE TOWN MANAGER AND HIS STAFF'S ROLE. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE GOALS AND THE STRAT PLAN, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF GOALS THAT DEAL WITH FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, AND SO IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THOSE FIT THE BEST UNDER THIS NAME, FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THEN IF YOU COULD SCROLL ON UP. 
          . 
          THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. 
          UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE GOALS, UM, THERE SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESS RE UH, RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION, AND THEN PRESERVE, PROTECT AND CELEBRATE GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURE AND HERITAGE, WHICH INCLUDES SUPPORTING, UM, E ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE GULLAH GEECHEE, UM, MEMBERS ON THE ISLAND. 
          AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A GOAL OF ADVANCING WORKFORCE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH ALSO RELATES TO FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, PROTECTING AND ENHANCING THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE VALUE, THE COMMUNITY VALUE WE HAVE ON OUR ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, AND THAT RELATED TO THOSE WHO COME TO VISIT AND THOSE WHO LIVE HERE SEEM TO BE, UH, BEST RELATED TO, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCE. 
          AND THEN IF YOU'D SCROLL ON UP TO THE NEXT SECTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO WHY RENAME THIS PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE? IF YOU LOOK AT THE GOALS LISTED HERE, GOAL TWO IS INVEST IN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND GOAL THREE IS ENHANCE MAJOR CORRIDORS AND STREETS. 
          WELL, THAT'S A PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND GOAL FOUR IS ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY READINESS AND FACILITIES. 
          AND THAT'S PART OF THAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND THEN REINFORCE ISLAND RESILIENCE ALSO HAS TO DO WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UM, SO THOSE SEEM TO FIT BEST UNDER THAT DESCRIPTION. 
          THEN, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO REMAINING GOALS, AS MR. LINER HAS MENTIONED, UM, THE GOAL ONE, PROTECT ON CHARACTER THREE, MANAGING GROWTH. 
          UM, AND AT THAT FEBRUARY, UH, WORK SESSION ON THE STRAT PLAN, I SAID I WOULD BE OKAY IF THERE WERE TWO COMMITTEES, TWO BUCKETS TO PUT THE WORK INTO IF IT WERE EVENLY DIVIDED AND NOT UNBALANCED. 
          AND IF YOU PUT ALL OF THAT GOAL ONE IN ONE COMMITTEE OR THE OTHER, IT'S A MAJOR, MAJOR TASK THAT WILL UNBALANCE THE WORKLOAD. 
          UM, AND SO HENCE, I THINK THAT IT DEPENDS UPON THE ITEMS THAT COME THAT ARE TO COME BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL COMMITTEES FOR THE MAYOR AND THE MANAGER TO DECIDE WHICH ONE GOES TO WHICH COMMITTEE. 
          UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THE, UM, THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN. 
          WE'VE ADOPTED, UM, MASTER PLAN ALREADY, AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH FUNDING AND THE TIMING OF FUNDING. 
          AND SO A LOT OF IT IS OPERATIONAL OTHER THAN WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF THE BUDGETS. 
          AND THAT'S A BASIS FOR THIS SUGGESTION. 
          AND I, I URGE ADOPTION THIS WAY BECAUSE TO ME, IT, IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW THE TOWN COUNCIL SHOULD FUNCTION AND ITS COMMITTEE SHOULD FUNCTION, THAT IT SHOULD BE DRIVEN BY THESE GOALS AND NOT DRIVEN BY OLD LANGUAGE, THAT IS NO LONGER AS USEFUL. 
          THE THE MISSION STAY THE SAME. 
          AND THE ADDITION IS PUTTING THESE GOALS IN THERE SO THAT WHEN MATTERS NEED TO COME BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND MANAGER KNOW WHICH DIRECTION TO TAKE. 
          AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO SERVES ON THE COMMITTEES OR WHAT THE COMMITTEES HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. 
          THIS IS SOLELY DIRECTED TOWARDS ACCOMPLISHING THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          OTHER COMMENTS, MR. ALFRED? UH, WELL I APPRECIATE THE ANALYSIS, UH, MS. BRYSON HAS PUT FORTH. 
          I DO AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS BICKER AND, AND TANNER THAT WE SHOULD GO ALONG WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'VE GOT A, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED STAFF PROPOSAL, UH, MADE BY MS. BECKER, SECONDED BY MS. TURNER. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY, SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND OPPOSED SIX TO ONE. 
          NEXT, WE HAVE 
          [9.d. Consideration of an Ordinance of the Town of Hilton Head Island Authorizing the Execution and Delivery of a Non-Exclusive Easement for Ingress, Egress, and Utilities on Town Property Located in the Area of Mingo Lane and Providing for Severability and an Effective Date - First Reading - Ben Brown, Strategic Initiatives Director]
CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF A NON-EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT FOR INGRESS, EGRESS, AND UTILITIES ON TOWN PROPERTY LOCATED IN 
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THE AREA OF MINGO LANE, AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL ABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MR. BEN BROWN, FIRST READING, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. 
          MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL. 
          TOWN MANAGER, YES, TOWN COUNCIL'S ASKED TO EXECUTE THE EASEMENT FROM MINGO LANE TO MARSHLAND ROAD. 
          THIS IS AN ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT, AND AS REQUESTED BY TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN ATTORNEY PREPARED THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS. 
          AND I WORK CLOSELY WITH THE SURVEYOR AS WELL AS THE CIP TEAM TO ENSURE THAT THE PHYSICAL LOCATION OF THE EASEMENT WAS COORDINATED WITH THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PATTERSON PARK. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          IS THERE A MOTION SO MOVED. 
          KIM, ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL? NO. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          WE'VE GOT A MOTION BY WHO? MS. BECKER. 
          AND THEN MS. MR. ALFRED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          NEXT WE HAVE 
          [9.e. Consideration of a Resolution Establishing the Land Management Ordinance Task Force - Shawn Leininger, Deputy Town Manager]
A CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHED IN THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE. 
          TASK FORCE TOWN COUNCIL IDENTIFIED THE UPDATE OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AS A PRIORITY IN OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN. 
          MR. LINEER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, MR. MAYOR PERRY, MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL, MR. TOWN MANAGER, SEAN INGER, DEPUTY TOWN MANAGER. 
          UH, SO IF APPROVED THIS THIS AFTERNOON, THIS RESOLUTION WOULD ESTABLISH A, A LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE TASK FORCE. 
          UM, AND WHAT THIS WILL DO IS, AS WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF, OF DRAFTING LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE REVISIONS TO THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, THAT'LL BE COMING BACK TO US BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          OUR SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW HAS US TO BE DONE BY 1231 WITH A PUBLICLY, WITH A DRAFT THAT WE CAN THEN SUBMIT TO THE PUBLIC FOR AND START THE PUBLIC REVIEW. 
          UM, THIS WILL PROVIDE US A TASK FORCE TO START THAT REVIEW PROCESS. 
          AND THIS IS A BEST PRACTICE WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN COMMUNITIES GO THROUGH AND, AND AMEND THEIR ZONING AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          AND THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS FOR THAT, MAINLY IS THAT THE LAND USE ORDINANCES HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF COMPLEXITY. 
          THEY HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INTERCONNECTEDNESS. 
          AND SO HAVING A, A TASK FORCE THAT'S COMPRISED OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS ACROSS A BROAD SPECTRUM OF THE COMMUNITY FROM RESIDENTS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, OUR BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBERS, PEOPLE FROM FROM VARIOUS INDUSTRIES THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY, IT'S A BEST PRACTICE FOR, FOR THAT REVIEW TO BUILD CONSENSUS TO PROBLEM SOLVE AND THINK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT AS PART OF THE LMO. 
          SO IN YOUR ORDINANCE OR IN THE RESOLUTION, BEAR WITH ME. 
          THE RESOLUTION ITSELF LAYS OUT SOME OF WHAT I JUST SAID, BUT THEN REALLY GETS INTO THE HEART OF WHO'S GOING TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          AS IT'S PRESENTED THIS AFTERNOON, THERE ARE 21 MEMBERS THAT WILL BE ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          AND THEY COME FROM THREE MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL, A PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRPERSON, THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD CHAIRPERSON, THE GULLAH GEECHEE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, CDC CHAIRPERSON, THE GULLAH GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE CHAIRPERSON, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HILTON HEAD, BLUFFTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HILTON HEAD AREA OF HOME BUILDERS, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE HILTON HEAD AREA REALTORS, THREE GENERAL MANAGERS, MANAGERS FROM THE 10 PUDS. 
          THE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE SHORT TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE WORKFORCE HOUSING INDUSTRY, AND THEN FIVE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          ALL OF THESE MEMBERS WILL BE APPOINTED BY TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UH, THE TOWN MANAGER AND MYSELF WILL SERVE AS EX OFFICIO, NON-VOTING MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          WE WILL NOT HAVE, NONE OF THE MEMBERS WILL HAVE ALTERNATES. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE LAND MANAGEMENT TASK FORCE ORDINANCE TASK FORCE WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO TOWN COUNCIL THROUGH MAJORITY VOTE. 
          IT IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT IS IT, IT DOES NOT CARRY THE WAY. 
          ULTIMATELY THAT DECISION IS, IS UP TO, TO TOWN COUNCIL. 
          BUT THEY WILL REVIEW THE LAND USE ZONING, SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT DESIGN, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT COMPRISE OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE. 
          THEY WILL HAVE A CHAIRPERSON AND A VICE CHAIRPERSON. 
          TOWN COUNCIL WILL SELECT THAT CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIRPERSON FROM THE MEMBERS, THE THREE MEMBERS THAT WILL BE APPOINTED TO THE, TO THE TASK FORCE. 
          TOWN COUNCIL WILL SELECT THOSE MEMBERS. 
          ALL MEETINGS WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          WE'LL FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. 
          AND ULTIMATELY, SO THE TOWN COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND DISBAND THE, THIS GROUP, THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY DISBAND UPON ADOPTION OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND FROM, FROM THE TOWN MANAGER AND COMMENTS THAT THE TOWN MANAGER TO SEE IF THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME, SOME COMMENTARY ABOUT THAT 21 MEMBERS ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          I, IT IS A LOT COMPARED TO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PLANNING COMMISSIONS 
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AND WE TALK ABOUT OUR, OUR STANDARD BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE WHETHER WE HAD MEETING, WE'RE TRYING TO, AS A BROAD CROSS SECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY, BRINGING A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO THE TABLE. 
          SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON IN THIS CASE. 
          WE ALSO KNOW THAT WITH 21 MEMBERS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM ZONING TO LAND USES TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T GONNA BE ABLE TO ATTEND. 
          THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TIMES WHEN IT'S JUST NOT OF INTEREST TO THEM AND THEY, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, THEIR, THEIR SCHEDULES MAY ALSO CONFLICT WITH THAT. 
          UH, HOWEVER, IF TOWN COUNCIL WANTED TO CONSIDER REDUCING THE MEMBERSHIP, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PLACES THAT YOU COULD LOOK TO REDUCE THE MEMBERSHIP. 
          ONE IS THE THREE GENERAL MANAGERS FROM THE 10 PUDS, AND THE OTHER IS THE FIVE RESIDENTS OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          WE COULD REDUCE THE, AND LET ME CLARIFY WHY I SAY THAT. 
          ALL OF THESE MEMBERS, THE TOWN, TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE LISTED HERE AND POTENTIALLY THE OTHERS THAT ARE LISTED HERE AS INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES, THEY ARE ALREADY RESIDENTS OF OUR ISLAND. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS IF YOU WANT TO REDUCE THE MEMBERSHIP DOWN FROM 21, THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF AREAS THAT YOU COULD LOOK. 
          UH, OTHERWISE OUR RECOMMENDATION IS 21, AS HAS BEEN PRESENTED. 
          MR. ORLANDO? YEAH, I'LL HELP SEAN A. LITTLE BIT HERE. 
          WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          I JUST THINK AN INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICE IS PUTTING SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY GROUP TOGETHER AS WE AS, AS WE DRAFT AND REVIEW AND VET AND SCRUB AND DISCUSS UPDATES TO A ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT CODE, RIGHT? SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I DO THINK THAT THAT SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE IS A BEST PRACTICE. 
          IT'S AN INDUSTRY STANDARD. 
          THIS IS NOT THE FIRST CODE THAT THIS MAN HAS OVERHAULED AND, AND, AND WAS WE CHECKED AND OUR RESOURCES, MYSELF INCLUDED, UM, THIS IS A, THIS IS A GOOD PRACTICE. 
          UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WERE A LOT OF WHAT IFS, RIGHT? SO WHAT IF, AND WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE IS THAT WE BRING A CODE FORWARD THAT'S BEEN SCRUBBED AT A 360 DEGREES A COUPLE TIMES AND RINSED BEFORE WE PUT IT ON A PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL. 
          UM, SO WHAT, WHAT SEAN HAS PROPOSED TO YOU WORKS BEST WHEN IT'S TIME BOUND, RIGHT BETWEEN 12 AND 18 MONTHS. 
          WE THINK THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS WE'RE GONNA KEEP WRITING THE CODE. 
          WE'RE GONNA START REVIEWING IT AND START APPROVING IT. 
          UH, THERE ARE 11 OF 21 OF THESE SPACES HERE, THESE SEATS ON THEM. 
          AND SEAN, YOU WENT OVER EACH ONE, CORRECT? I DID. 
          UM, 11 OF 21 ARE RESIDENT BASED. 
          UM, SEAN DID MENTION THAT NOT ALL SHOW UP AT ALL TIMES. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR GOAL IS, IS TO BRING YOU SOMETHING WITH SOME CONSENSUS. 
          SO, AND, AND I'LL JUST HELP WITH THIS. 
          SEAN IS NOT SAYING TO ELIMINATE THE FIVE MEMBERS OF, OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHAT HE'S SAYING IS THAT WE REALLY ARE ASKING YOU THAT A CHAIRPERSON OF PLANNING COMMISSION, A CHAIRPERSON OF THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, A CHAIRPERSON OF THE GULLAH GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE AND SO ON SO FORTH. 
          AND THAT WE HAVE THAT 360 DEGREE REPRESENTATION ON HERE. 
          20 ONE'S FINE FOR US. 
          IF YOU WANT TO CUT IT, YOU SEE THE LIST ITEMS I A THROUGH WHATEVER LETTER AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ACCOMPLISH WHATEVER YOU ASK US TO DO. 
          OKAY? IS THERE A MOTION BY COUNCIL? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO START THE CONVERSATION. 
          UH, MAYOR. 
          UM, AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF IS WRITTEN. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, MR. . 
          KIM, IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES. 
          UH, DAVE FERGUSON. 
          I HI DAVE FERGUSON. 
          FIRST MR. BARNWELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. 
          UH, UH, YOU'RE A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY TO FOLLOW. 
          UH, I WAS, UH, IT WAS A JOY TO SIT NEXT TO YOU AT THE NINE 11 CEREMONY THE OTHER DAY. 
          GET TO CHIT CHAT WITH YOU. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. 
          WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM YOU, EVEN SOME OF US OLDER FOLKS. 
          UM, SO I, I WANT TO BE, UM, UPFRONT AND SAY WHEN IT COMES TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL SITUATION, I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE FIGHT. 
          SO I CAN, UH, BE EMPATHETIC TO BOTH SIDES, ESPECIALLY, UM, THE BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          'CAUSE I'VE BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER FOR 17 YEARS. 
          SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE FEAR THAT COMES TO PEOPLE'S MIND WHEN THEY HEAR THE WORD MORATORIUM AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT, UM, AS FAR AS THIS TASK FORCE, UM, I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU, MR. MAYOR, SPECIFICALLY THAT ON JANUARY 20, 23, A FEW, A FEW MONTHS AFTER YOU TOOK THE SEAT, THE CURRENT COUNCIL AT THAT TIME PROMISED THE PEOPLE OF HILTON HEAD THAT THE LMO WOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN 60 TO 90 DAYS. 
          THAT WAS YOUR COMMITMENT, THAT WAS YOUR WORD TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD. 
          AND YET, TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER, 
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33 MONTHS LATER, WE'RE STILL WAITING. 
          SO INSTEAD OF MAKING TOUGH DECISIONS AND DELIVERING THIS COUNCIL NOW WANTS TO CONSIDER HANDING THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO A 21 PERSON TASK FORCE. 
          LET'S CALL THIS WHAT THAT IS. 
          IT'S PASSING THE BUCK, IT'S KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, AND IT'S GIVING UP BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE SEVEN OF YOU CAN'T AGREE ON ANYTHING MORE THAN OPENING PARKS, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          I LOVE PARKS, BUT WE HAVE BIGGER THINGS HERE TO HANDLE. 
          YOU WERE ELECTED TO MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS NOT TO OUTSOURCE THEM. 
          IT'S BETTER TO BE BOLDLY DECISIVE AND RISK BEING WRONG THEN TO AGONIZE AT LENGTH, TO BE RIGHT TOO LATE IF YOU CANNOT AGREE AMONG YOURSELVES. 
          AND THIS IS NOT THE COMMUNITY'S PROBLEM. 
          IT'S A FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP. 
          AND THAT BEGINS AT THE TOP. 
          AS MAYOR, YOU SHOULD BE UNITING TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS IN WHAT'S BEST FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS, NOT FOR SMALL GROUPS, A HANDFUL OF YOUR FRIENDS OR GROUPS THAT FUNDED CAMPAIGNS. 
          THE LMO IS NOT JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER, IT IS THE BLUEPRINT FOR HOW THIS ISLAND GROWS, HOW WE PROTECT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND HOW WE PRESERVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT MAKES HILTON HEADS SPECIAL. 
          BY DRAGGING THIS OUT YEAR AFTER YEAR, YOU'RE ALLOWING DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES TO CONTINUE UNCHECKED WITHOUT THE CLARITY AND VISION THE ML LMO IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE. 
          BY THE WAY, WHERE'S THE MASTER PLAN? I WOULD SAY BEFORE ANY OF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, UH, AGREEING TO THIS, UM, HERE'S, HERE'S, UM, THIS IS FIRST OF ALL NOT A COMMUNITY TASK FORCE. 
          THE WAY IT'S DESCRIBED, IT'S HEAVILY WEIGHTED, UM, IN MY OPINION, AGAINST THE MAJORITY OF THE 38 RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT HERE'S WHAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS TOLD ME JUST IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, IS TWO AND A HALF YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH. 
          HILTON HAD RESIDENTS ARE TIRED OF EXCUSES, LEAD OR STEP ASIDE. 
          FOR THOSE WHO WILL KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, AGAIN, IS NOT LEADERSHIP, IT'S AVOIDANCE. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY DESERVES BETTER. 
          I'VE HEARD RESIDENTS SAY, ALRIGHT, MR. FERGUSON, IF COUNCIL CANT EVEN FINISH THE LMO, HOW CAN THEY BE MR. HOW CAN THEY TRUST THEM TO HANDLE THE BIGGER CHALLENGES? THANK YOU, RICHARD. 
          BUSY. 
          WHICH MICROPHONE? EITHER ONE. 
          EITHER ONE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, RICHARD, BUSY INDIGO RUN IN JANUARY 23, JONESVILLE RESIDENCE. 
          WERE PROMISED THAT A NEW LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE WOULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN 60 TO 90 DAYS. 
          THOSE RESIDENTS WERE SO ENCOURAGED LEAVING THAT MEETING, BUT AS IT TURNS OUT, THEY WERE LIED TO. 
          AND NOW THE TOWN COUNCIL IS BEING ASKED TO APPOINT A 21 MEMBER TASK FORCE TO STUDY THE LMO. 
          ARE YOU SERIOUS? ONE LOCAL RESIDENT HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD ON NEXT DOOR WHEN HE SAID, GOOD LUCK GETTING 21 PEOPLE TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME FOR ANY MEANINGFUL MEETING. 
          THEY WILL ONLY WASTE TIME AND RESOURCES. 
          ANOTHER WELL-KNOWN RESIDENT, MARTIN LES, WHO TYPICALLY SUPPORTS THE TOWN. 
          HE RESPONDED SAYING, THAT'S PROBABLY THE POINT THE CONSULTANTS WORKING ON THE LMO ARE EXPERTS IN CODE AND CIVIC PLANNING, BUT PUTTING TOGETHER A LARGE COMMITTEE IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. 
          I HAVE LITTLE FAITH THIS LMO WILL BE COMPLETED ON TIME OR DONE CORRECTLY. 
          AS YOU KNOW, ROSS PEROT FAMOUSLY SAID, IF YOU SEE A SNAKE, JUST KILL IT. 
          DON'T APPOINT A COMMITTEE ON SNAKES. 
          IN THEORY, THESE KINDS OF TASK FORCES ARE MEANT TO GATHER COMMUNITY INPUT, FOSTER SOLUTIONS, AND ACHIEVE POSITIVE INCOMES OUTCOMES. 
          THEY RARELY DO. 
          THE LAST TIME THE COUNCIL APPROVED AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS WHEN THE ISSUE WAS THE 2 78 BRIDGE PROJECT. 
          THE TOWN HIRED TRAFFIC ENGINEERING EXPERTS AT A COST OF NEARLY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          THE MAYOR APPOINTED HIMSELF AS COMMITTEE CHAIR AND MUCH TO HIS CHAGRIN, THE COMMITTEE ENDED UP VOTING TWO TO TWO TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF THE EXPERTS. 
          SO THE THAI VOTE MEANT NO, BUT THE TOWN COUNCIL IGNORED THAT AND THEY PROCEEDED TO ENDORSE A MASSIVE PLAN THAT IN THE END WAS NEVER FUNDED BY THE STATE DOT. 
          ONCE AGAIN, IT SEEMS THAT THIS TOWN COUNCIL IS SIMPLY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. 
          AND I THINK A QUESTION THAT SHOULD BE ANSWERED TODAY IS, WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO APPOINT A 21 MEMBER TASK FORCE? WAS IT THE MAYOR, THE TOWN MANAGER WHO'S THE AUTHOR OF THIS? LET'S BE HONEST, BY THE TIME A REVISED LMO IS COM IS FINISHED, THE DAMAGE WILL ALREADY BE DONE, IF NOT ALREADY DONE. 
          AND CHARLES FRAZIER WOULD BE TURNING OVER IN HIS GRAVE WITH THE ACTION THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO TAKE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU D ANTHONY. 
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GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I CAN'T SLIDE IT. 
          UH, D ANTHONY JONESVILLE ROAD. 
          BOY, WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD. 
          I WANNA KNOW WHAT THIS, UM, 21 PERSON TASK FORCE, UM, HOW LONG WOULD IT BE TAKE TO PUT IT TOGETHER? AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY MEETINGS ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT HAVING? AND THEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY NOW. 
          LIKE WE'VE BEEN WAITING. 
          WHY NOW? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL. 
          ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, MS. BRYSON? MR. I APPRECIATE THE TOWN MANAGER'S COMMENTS ABOUT INDUSTRY STANDARD. 
          I I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          I'VE SEEN THIS WORK BEFORE. 
          I I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY. 
          AND THE IDEA OF THIS TASK FORCE IS NOT TO, TO PREPARE A NEW LMO, BUT IT'S TO REVIEW THE TEXT PREPARED BY THE CONSULTANT WHO PREPARED IT. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HAVE VIEWS OF VARIOUS REPRESENTATION ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. 
          I CERTAINLY SUPPORT FIVE RESIDENTS BEING IN THIS GROUP, UM, BECAUSE, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE CROSS REPRESENTATION OF OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL. 
          UM, AND, AND THIS DOES WORK WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THE IDEAS COMING TOGETHER AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN HASH OUT WHAT THE ISSUES ARE BEFORE IT GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BEFORE IT COMES TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, IT IS NOT KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD. 
          IT IS INVITING COMMENTS DURING THE PROCESS AND I SUPPORT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THE DAMAGE, UM, DONE. 
          I WROTE THAT DOWN BEFORE THE DAMAGE IS DONE. 
          I QUITE FRANKLY THINK THE DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE. 
          THE DELAYS HAVE BEEN, UM, PROBLEMATIC FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND. 
          WE HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED BY OVERDEVELOPMENT. 
          WE HAVE COMMUNITIES ON THE VERGE OF HAVING DESTRUCTION DONE TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THAT IN AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER. 
          I GIVE OUR TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF CREDIT, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE. 
          WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, 19 OR SO CHANGES TO THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE THAT BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS TO THE ISLAND. 
          IN MY TENURE HERE SINCE 2018, THERE'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 20 THAT WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, TO HELP WITH THE ISSUES ON THE ISLAND. 
          BUT THE DAMAGE IS DONE, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. 
          IT'S MY INTEREST IN MOVING THIS AS QUICKLY FORWARD AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, IN A WAY SIMILAR TO THE MEETING WE HAD, UM, YESTERDAY OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, WHERE THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED PARTIES WITH KNOWLEDGE CAN SIT AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AND SCRUB A DOCUMENT AND THEN EXPEDITIOUSLY MOVE IT ON TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR, UM, APPROVAL. 
          WELL, THROUGH THE PROCESS, DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT DOESN'T GO FROM THERE DIRECTLY TO TOWN COUNCIL. 
          THERE IS A PROCESS OF OTHER, UM, PLACES WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND CONSIDERED AND THEN VOTED AND RECOMMENDED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL. 
          UM, I'M NOT PLEASED WITH 21 PEOPLE. 
          I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WAS COM MENTIONING THAT IT SEEMS CUMBERSOME. 
          I RECALL WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THE, UH, 2 78 COMMITTEE, THE ORIGINAL ONE, NOT THE ONE REFERENCED IN THESE DISCUSSIONS HERE TONIGHT, BUT THE ORIGINAL ONE, UM, WHO OUR CHAIR, DAVID JOHNSON IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY. 
          BUT HE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB MANAGING THAT COMMITTEE. 
          BUT IT, IT, IT WASN'T AS, IN MY OPINION, AS PRODUCTIVE AND USEFUL AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN HAD IT BEEN A SMALLER COMMITTEE. 
          THERE WERE FOLKS WITH A PARTICULAR AGENDA THAT NO MATTER WHAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY DOING, THEY WERE MOSTLY DRIVING THEIR OWN PERSONAL AGENDA. 
          AND SO, UM, DO I HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE WE COULD TAKE PEOPLE OFF? I PROBABLY, UM, DO, IT WOULD NOT BE THE RESIDENTS BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. 
          UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRPERSON WILL SEE THIS, UM, AS THE CHAIRPERSON AS PART OF THAT, UM, LEGISLATIVE PROCESS THAT'S REQUIRED. 
          UM, UM, THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD IS A CHAIRPERSON IS AN IMPORTANT PERSON TO BE THERE BECAUSE THE, THEY WILL NOT SEE IT. 
          UM, AT LEAST NOT IN THE, UH, FORMAL PROCESS THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          BUT THERE ARE OTHER PLACES WHERE I WOULD, I COULD TAKE A PERSON OR TWO OFF, WILL A PERSON OR TWO OR THREE MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE? TECHNICALLY, LIKELY NOT. 
          UM, WILL I SUPPORT AS I DID MA MAKING THE MOTION, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THIS BODY, THEN I WILL SUPPORT IT. 
          UM, WOULD I LIKE TO SEE IT 
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REVISED AND REFINED TO A SMALLER NUMBER? I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO US ALL IF WE DID THAT. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER COMMENTS, MS. TONER? YES, I AGREE THAT 21 SEEMS LIKE A VERY LARGE NUMBER. 
          UM, AND I WAS, UH, SURPRISED WHEN I ORIGINALLY GOT THE MATERIAL AS I WAS ADDING IT UP. 
          UM, I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF A TASK FORCE AND HAVING REPRESENTATION FROM VARIOUS AREAS. 
          I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE GIVEN THE IMPACTS THAT THE LMO WILL HAVE. 
          UM, MY FOCUS IS ON THE FIVE RESIDENTS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE HAPPENS IS THAT WE HAVE AMPLE REPRESENTATION FROM RESIDENTS OUTSIDE THE PUDS, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM AS WELL. 
          PUDS HAVE THEIR OWN RULES AND REGULATIONS, UH, ARBS, ET CETERA. 
          UH, BUT WE ARE SOMEWHAT LIKE THE POA FOR THOSE RESIDENTS OUTSIDE THE PUDS. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN EMPHASIS ON THAT. 
          AND MY QUESTION IS, WHO PICKS? AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS? SO THE, THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO HOW WE APPOINT AND REAPPOINT MEMBERS TO OTHER BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND TASK FORCE, THIS WILL BE A COUNCIL DRIVEN PROCESS. 
          TOWN STAFF WILL ASSIST AS NECESSARY. 
          UH, IF YOU NEED GUIDANCE TO, TO HELP POINT YOU, UH, TO, TO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THOSE THAT WE ALREADY KNOW, WHO THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN IS, WHO THE DRB CHAIRMAN IS. 
          UH, WE WILL HELP POINT YOU TO THOSE, TO THOSE LEADERS IN THOSE, THOSE INDUSTRIES. 
          BUT THIS WILL TAKE PLACE. 
          WE WILL BEGIN THE SELECTION PROCESS, UH, UPON ADOPTION, UM, AND HAVE THIS THIS COMMITTEE IN PLACE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          MR. ORLANDO, UH, THANK YOU. 
          YOU, YOU SELECT, RIGHT? SO THE OBVIOUS ONES ARE THE CHAIRS OF BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND COMMITTEES THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY APPOINTED. 
          UM, I IMAGINE THAT I WOULD BRING THIS FORWARD TO YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS SOMETIME IN OCTOBER TO TALK ABOUT PERSONNEL AND PLACEMENT AND APPOINTMENT IN THE SAME WAY YOU WOULD PLANNING COMMISSION OR ANY OTHER SORT OF BOARD COMMISSION COMMITTEE. 
          SO THIS, AS IT IS ADOPTED TONIGHT, WE, I I WOULD ASK ALL OF YOU TO START THINKING OF THOSE FOLKS THAT AREN'T OBVIOUS ON THERE. 
          RIGHT? PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR, WE KNOW WHO THAT IS, BUT THE FIVE MEMBERS, THE THE OTHER FOLKS THAT SHOW UP ON HERE THAT AREN'T AS OBVIOUS, UM, LET US KNOW. 
          WE'LL CONTACT THEM OR YOU CONTACT THEM, CHECK THEIR INTEREST IF ANY FOLKS ARE IN THE ROOM THAT HAVE INTEREST, UH, AS TO IF, IF TOWN COUNCIL VOTES ON THIS, UM, FREE ADVERTISING TO LOOK, LOOK FOR SOME FOLKS ON HERE, UH, RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, OKAY, MR. ALFRED. 
          I DID NOT BECOME AWARE OF THIS, UH, PROPOSAL UNTIL THE PACKET ONE CAME OUT A FEW DAYS AGO. 
          UH, BUT WHEN I REFLECT ON IT, I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING A COMMITTEE OF THIS NATURE IS A GOOD ONE. 
          UH, I'M, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF DELAY. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS, UH, DELAY IS GONNA BE ANY LONGER THAN IT WOULD BE OTHERWISE BECAUSE IT IS INCUMBENT ON US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT AND ADEQUATE PUBLIC INPUT, UH, FROM A VARIETY OF SECTIONS, SECTORS OF, UH, OF OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UH, THIS IS A METHOD OF GETTING THAT PUBLIC INPUT, UH, PARTICULARLY FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UH, EXPERIENCE. 
          BUT WE DO WANT PUBLIC INPUT AND GETTING PUBLIC INPUT TAKES TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MR. P. 
          MAYOR. 
          UH, A COUPLE THINGS. 
          ONE IS TO UNDERSTAND, WE'LL HAVE A, A DRAFT OF THE TEXT BY 12 31 25, THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO PERHAPS THAT OUR TOWN COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE A GOAL OF HAVING THIS TASK FORCE IN PLACE BEFORE THAT DATE. 
          AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP TO MOVE ALONG THE PROCESS. 
          THE OTHER THING IN, IN LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FIVE RESIDENTS, AND I AGREE WITH MS. TURNER'S, UH, POSITION ABOUT HAVING FOLKS FROM OUTSIDE THE GATED COMMUNITIES, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE WANT TO CONSIDER HAVING ALL OF THOSE FIVE MEMBERS FROM OUTSIDE THE GATED COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THERE ARE GONNA BE THREE GENERAL MANAGERS FROM WITHIN THE GATED COMMUNITIES. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK MY FELLOW MEMBERS WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          I I WOULD HAVE TO ASK LEGALLY HOW THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL, I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL CITIZENS. 
          THE FIVE MEMBERS, NO, THEY WOULD BE FROM OUTSIDE THE GATED COMMUNITIES. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN SAY OUTSIDE THE PUDS, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE IT, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE A WAY TO LEGALLY DESCRIBE IT. 
          AND CAN WE ASK CURTIS, DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT? CAN YOU HELP US OUT? WELL, AS THE RESOLUTION IS SET UP, YOU KNOW, IT, IT LEAVES IT TO YOU ALL TO DESIGNATE 
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HOW YOU WOULD PUT THE FIVE CITIZEN MEMBERS TOGETHER. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A DELIBERATIVE PROCESS FOR COUNSEL TO DECIDE X NUMBER FROM GATING COMMUNITIES X NUMBER FROM NOT, I MEAN DECISION. 
          I MEAN THERE'S NO, NO REAL, YOU KNOW, LEGAL GUIDANCE TO THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S A POLITICAL PROCESS THAT Y'ALL WOULD GO THROUGH TO DETERMINE THE MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. BROWN. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          I'VE GOT A, UH, GUESS QUESTION FOR MR. ORLANDO. 
          UM, CAN YOU JUST HELP US UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AFTER THE END OF DECEMBER? UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT A TASK FORCE TO VET THAT COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE 12 TO 18 MONTHS, BUT I'M CURIOUS ON TWO THINGS. 
          ONE IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT AND DURING THAT 12 AND 18 MONTHS, ARE WE LOOKING TO DIGEST THIS IN BITS AND PIECES AND THEN ASK FOR SOME TYPE OF NOD FROM TOWN COUNCIL? OR WILL THE WHOLE THING COME TO US AFTER THE 12 TO 18 MONTH PERIOD? I WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          SURE. 
          IF, IF COUNSEL DOESN'T MIND, I'LL, I'LL ANSWER THAT. 
          AND, AND IF I COULD TO JUST TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A, A PROFESSIONAL PRIVILEGE FOR A SECOND AND BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND REMIND US ABOUT THE OVERHAUL OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AND SOME OF THE MANAGEMENT OF, OF, OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND CALIBRATING OUR CODES SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. 
          BECAUSE I THINK Y'ALL ARE HERE AND YOU'RE HEARING THAT, THAT MAYBE SINCE 2023 WE HAD PROMISED A, A 90 DAY CODE DELIVERED ON YOUR TABLE. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I, BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED A LOT AND I, AND, AND SEAN AND I, AND I'LL SAY THIS SEAN, AND I ALWAYS FEEL THAT WE'RE LATE GETTING THIS CODE TO YOU. 
          WE KNOW THAT, BUT WE HAVE ADDRESSED A LOT OF COMPONENTS OF CODE. 
          WHAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IS OVERHAULED, RIGHT, REALLY ADDRESSING THE, THE SLIDING SCALE ZONING, UM, ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ISSUES, UM, THAT WE KNOW IN, IN NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          BUT I WILL SAY THAT IF WE CAN DELIVER THIS CODE TO YOU AND SEAN COMMITS TO THAT, UM, AND OUR CODE CONSULTANT COMMITS THAT WE WILL HAVE A DRAFT CODE BY END OF YEAR, A LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE RESHUFFLED IMPROVED, ELIMINATING CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. 
          AND PROBABLY A LIST OF QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR Y'ALL, ONE OF WHICH IS FOOD TRUCKS, ANOTHER OF WHICH IS DENSITY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD 4, 6 8, ANOTHER, WHICH IS HEIGHT, SCALE, SETBACK OVERLAY, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT TO GO THROUGH THIS. 
          SO WE NEED HELP. 
          I, I WISH I KNEW ALL THE ANSWERS. 
          I I, I WISH I COULD JUST BRING YOU SOMETHING AND GET IT RIGHT, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          SO AS WE GET THIS CODE IN PLACE AND WE HAVE THE TASK FORCE IN PLACE, WE WILL START BRINGING ONE CHAPTER, ONE SECTION, ONE CHAPTER AT A TIME TO THE TASK FORCE. 
          THE EARLY CHAPTERS OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, AS WE WILL KNOW IT, THE EARLY CHAPTERS ARE THE EASY ONES. 
          TABLE OF CONTENTS, WHAT'S IN THE CODE, HOW IS IT STRUCTURED, RIGHT? CODE STRUCTURE HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT. 
          A BRAND NEW APPLICATIONS MANUAL. 
          SO IT'S CLEAR, RIGHT? SO THAT WE HAVE CLEAR, CONCISE DELIVERABLES THAT ARE PREDICTABLE OUTCOMES IN OUR REVIEW PROGRAM. 
          THERE IS AN APPLICATION MANUAL THAT'S PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO AS A COMPANION PIECE OF THE CODE. 
          WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          A DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, A DESIGN MANUAL WILL BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO HERE. 
          IT'S NOT JUST A COUPLE OF CHAPTERS. 
          SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THIS TASK FORCE MEETS AS NEEDED. 
          I'M SURE THEY'LL MEET SLOWLY BUT SURELY. 
          AND THEN ONCE WE GET INTO LAND USE, ONCE WE GET INTO DEVELOPMENT CODES, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND ALL OF THAT WORK, THEY'LL MEET AS MUCH AS THEY NEED TO. 
          UM, WE'LL GO AS FAST AS THE STAFF POST DECEMBER 31 AS FAST AS Y'ALL LET US GO. 
          SO I, I WILL SAY, BECAUSE I, AND, AND I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM TODAY AND I, AND IF, AND IF I COULD SINCE THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND, AND THIS WAS IN A MEDIA RELEASE SENT OUT BY OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, WE HAVE DONE A LOT TO MANAGE GROWTH AND, AND ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES. 
          WOULD IT BE FAIR IF I SHARED THEM A LITTLE BIT JUST AS A REMINDER, PLEASE DO. 
          'CAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT A, A FINISHED PRODUCT OF LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE. 
          BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THAT INITIAL PLAN HA HAS CHANGED BECAUSE WE'VE IMPROVED CODE SINCE WE SAID WE'D OVERHAUL CODE. 
          AND SO WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL DID IS TELL ME A COUPLE YEARS AGO, MARK, AND IT WAS BEFORE SEAN GOT HERE, AND I APPRECIATE SEAN BEING HERE. 
          THANK GOODNESS FOR HIM. 
          YOU TOLD ME THAT WE'RE GONNA OVERHAUL THE CODE. 
          BUT THERE WERE VERY, THERE WERE VARIOUS AND MANY PRIORITY RISK ELEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND SO SINCE THEN WE'VE ACQUIRED ABOUT 70 ACRES OF LAND, ABOUT 
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$45 MILLION WORTH. 
          UM, AND WE USE THE BUFORT COUNTY GREEN SPACE PROGRAM FOR 33% OF THOSE DOLLARS. 
          THE REST OF THE DOLLARS WERE REAL ESTATE TRANSFER FEE, RIGHT VALUE ADD TO THAT, UM, TAX INCREMENT FINANCE AND SOME OTHER FUNDS. 
          BUT WE HAVE REMOVED 424 DWELLING UNITS AND 106 HOTEL ROOMS OFF THE, OFF, OFF THE TABLE. 
          OFF OFF OUR, OFF OUR ISLAND. 
          WE'VE ALSO ADOPTED 12 CODE AMENDMENTS, RIGHT? AND I WON'T BORE YOU WITH THEM ALL, BUT, UM, SOMETIMES I FALL ASLEEP AND WAKE UP THINKING ABOUT THIS. 
          WE ELIMINATED STAFF WAIVERS. 
          IT'S, WE, WE PERFECTED THE VARIANCE PROCESS. 
          UM, WE REDUCED AN ABILITY TO OBTAIN VARIANCES ON CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS. 
          THAT WAS A MASSIVE RISK WHEN I FIRST WALKED IN THE DOOR HERE AND HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THAT. 
          WE LOOKED AT BIKE STORAGE, MANUFACTURING USE, AMENDED TRAFFIC REPORTING THAT THAT REALLY FEEDS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT AS ASSESSMENT. 
          WE AMENDED SUBDIVISION BUFFER PLANNING REQUIREMENTS, SIGN STANDARDS, HEIGHT CALCULATIONS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          UM, BUT THEN SOME OF THE, I'D CALL IT THE, THE, THE NUTS AND BOLTS MEAT AND POTATOES OF A, OF A CODE GOT AMENDED. 
          THAT HELPED US AND I THINK REMOVED RISK OFF THE TABLE. 
          WE AMENDED THE SUBDIVISION REVIEW PROCESS AND THE PAST IT WOULD BE AT A STAFF LEVEL. 
          NOW IT GOES THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          NOW THERE IS SUNSHINE ON MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, ANYTHING OVER FIVE, LOTS AND INDEFINITELY DEVELOPMENT PLANS. 
          WE AMENDED THE FOREST BEACH OVERLAY DISTRICT. 
          WE ACTUALLY PUT IN PLACE FOR THE FIRST TIME CONSTRUCTION SITE MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, AMENDED THE TREE PROTECTION STANDARDS TO INCREASE PRESERVATION OF MORE TREES, BUT ALSO A REPLANT WITH LARGER TREE DIAMETERS AND HEIGHTS AND ELIMINATED EXCEPTIONS TO SPECIMEN TREE PRESERVATION. 
          SO COMMON OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS. 
          WE DID NOT HAVE GOOD OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS IN THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE FOR SUBDIVISIONS. 
          IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE. 
          YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN THE STREET AND YOU CAN IDENTIFY THOSE SUBDIVISIONS. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES WITH NO FUNCTIONAL, USABLE, OPEN SPACE. 
          SO THAT WAS AMENDED. 
          WE AMENDED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS TO GO UPSTREAM AND DOWNSTREAM AT A, AT A GREATER SCALE BASED ON BETTER TRAFFIC COUNTS. 
          UM, WE AMENDED NOISE RE REGULATIONS, WE AMENDED BEACH PARKING REGULATIONS WITH A BRAND NEW BEACH PARKING PROGRAM. 
          RIGHT? REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE HAD NOTHING. 
          WE ALSO PUT REGULATIONS IN PLACE TO GIVE US SOME TEETH TO REMOVE THE ABANDONED BOATS IN THE WATER THAT WERE CAUSING IMPACTS. 
          WE ALSO PROVIDED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF ADMINISTRATIVE CITATIONS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND PARKING AND SO, SO ON, SO FORTH. 
          AND WE ALSO ADDRESS THE WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY CORRIDOR. 
          SO I JUST NEED TO HELP Y'ALL AND HELP Y'ALL. 
          LIKE WE HAVE REALLY WORKED ON THIS FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          WE CAN'T KEEP PRETENDING THE CODE'S LATE, SO THANK UM, SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THE COMMITTEE WOULD WORK AND THE WORKLOAD ASSOCIATED WITH IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY DAUNTING TASK. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'RE GONNA BE A LOT OF DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ABOUT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT DEAL WITH ZONING HERE ON HILTON HAND. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE DOING IT FOR THAT BABY THAT'S RIGHT ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR . 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT. 
          UM, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO LEGALLY WE WILL ALSO HAVE AN OBLIGATION FOR THE FINISHED PRODUCT ONCE IT HAS GONE THROUGH TASK FORCE TO THEN GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, I'M ASSUMING, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          AND THEN I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE NEXT STEP AS FAR AS THE APPROVAL PROCESS THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR GETTING ME BACK ON TRACK. 
          I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO REMIND US ALL WHY THE CODE ISN'T WRITTEN, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS A GREAT JUMPSTART TO SOME OF THE RISKS THAT YOU ALL IDENTIFIED TO ME SOME YEARS AGO. 
          UM, IT WILL GO, IT WILL BE ON OUR DESK BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          IT WILL START GOING CHAPTER AND VERSE AT A TIME THROUGH THE TASK FORCE. 
          AND THE PROCESS IS THE IT, IT WILL GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN IT'LL COME TO TOWN COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND THEN IT'LL COME TO TOWN COUNCIL AS, AS AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. 
          YOU, YOU CAN ADOPT IN ANY WAY YOU'D LIKE. 
          I'LL LEAN ON ON CURTIS FOR A LITTLE BIT OF THIS, BUT MY, MY PAST HAS SHOWN THAT YOU CAN ADOPT A CHAPTER OR YOU CAN ADOPT RIGHT? IN WHOLE OR IN PART. 
          UM, I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON HOW COMPLEX SOME OF THIS IS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS WE, AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE GONNA AGREE ON HEIGHT, SETBACK ZONING, SIX, EIGHT, UM, FOOD TRUCKS, ROAD TYPOLOGIES, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. 
          WE THINK WE'VE GOT IT RIGHT. 
          WE'RE WORKING WITH A VERY GOOD CODE WRITER. 
          THEY HAVE WRITTEN CODE IN HAWAII AND DETROIT, MICHIGAN. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT IF YOU CAN FIGURE 
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OUT CODE IN THOSE TWO IMPORTANT PLACES, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD BASED, ENVIRONMENTAL BASED, WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS RIGHT. 
          SO THERE HAS TO BE A PROCESS AND I JUST KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO TRUST THAT PROCESS. 
          SO, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS VETTING THROUGH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED, UH, PREVIOUS LI BY US, BY UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THEN THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS PLANNING COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          AND THE ULTIMATE DECISION IS BACK ON US AS TOWN COUNCIL. 
          SO WE'RE NOT ASKING RESIDENTS OR APPOINTEES OF THIS TASK FORCE TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'M VERY CLEAR ON THAT. 
          THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, MR. MAYOR, IS, UM, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BY SOME OF US THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF, UH, APPOINTMENTS HERE AND I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW IF, IF THERE ARE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO CUT. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND, I'VE HEARD NO ONE WANTS TO CUT RESIDENTS. 
          SO IS ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS, UH, LOOKING TO BE REPRESENTATIVE HERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ELIMINATE? MR. DESMO? YES, THANKS. 
          I MEAN, WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN MUCH FASTER THAN IT'S HAPPENED. 
          WE ARE WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS TRYING TO CUT PEOPLE OUT OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          I THINK EVERYTHING WE DO AND EVERYTHING WE TRY TO DO IN A COMMITTEE IS ABOUT LEADERSHIP. 
          IT'S ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, IT'S ABOUT LEADERSHIP. 
          IT'S ABOUT GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE INVOLVED AT THE RIGHT TIME. 
          BECAUSE WHEN IT'S ALL OVER SAID AND DONE, IT ALL LANDS HERE ANYWAY. 
          IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF YOU HAVE 21 OR 81. 
          IT ALL LANDS RIGHT HERE. 
          BUT WE, WE'VE VET THE ENTIRE AREA AND WE GET REPRESENTATION ISLAND WIDE. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU LEAVE SOMEONE OUT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE GOOD WHEN IT ALL COMES BACK TO THIS, TO THIS POSITION. 
          SO OF COURSE A COMMITTEE MIGHT OPERATE BETTER WITH SEVEN OR NINE OR OR LESS, BUT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S INCLUDED AND JUST REMEMBER WHEN IT'S ALL OVER, IT ALL COMES BACK HERE ANYWAY. 
          SO THAT'S MS. BECKER. 
          THANK YOU STEVE, FOR, FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          AND THANKS MAYOR. 
          UM, AS I SAID, I'LL SUPPORT THE IT AS WRITTEN. 
          UM, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE CERTAINLY WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          UM, I THINK IT, IT'LL BE AN AN AN INTERESTING, UM, TASK TO COORDINATE IT ALL, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS NOT, UM, OUTSIDE OF OUR SKILLSETS OF PEER AND UM, AND OUR MOTIVATION TO DO JUST THAT, TO MOVE IT FORWARD. 
          UM, I'D BE HARD PRESSED OTHER THAN AS I MENTIONED, MAYBE BEING ABLE TO PICK ONE OR TWO AND THEREFORE NOT REALLY REDUCING IT MUCH SUBSTANTIALLY ANYWAY. 
          SO, UH, I'M PREPARED TO VOTE FOR THIS AS WRITTEN. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MS. TURNER? UH, I CONCUR WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN BECKER'S COMMENT, UH, ABOUT ONE OR TWO ISN'T GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND I DON'T WANNA DELAY THE PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, ALTHOUGH I STILL THINK 21 IS TOO MANY, I WILL SUPPORT IT. 
          ALRIGHT, MAYOR, IF I COULD ASK ONE MORE QUESTION AND FOLLOWING UP ON MR. BROWN'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND WHAT'S TO BE DONE. 
          I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW ABOUT ANNETTE IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU HAVE TEXT IN PLACE IS YOU HAVE TO HAVE ZONING DISTRICTS AND A MAP. 
          AND WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT THAT PART OF THE PROCESS. 
          AND I'M NOT HEARING THAT AS OF 12 31 25. 
          IN ADDITION TO TEXTS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE NEW ZONING MAPS. 
          IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THAT WILL CERTAINLY SPEED UP THE PROCESS. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AND THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT ABOUT THE ZONING MAP. 
          'CAUSE IN MY EXPERIENCE THAT'S TRULY WHEN THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, IS WHEN YOU FIND OUT WHAT YOUR PROPERTY IS ZONED AND WHAT YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY PROPERTY IS ZONED AND WHAT, WHAT IS GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS ON THAT ZONING MAP. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY STARTED THERE, WE STARTED WITH OUR ZONING DISTRICTS AND WE, I'VE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER A DRAFT MAP TO, TO GET THAT OUT IN FRONT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT IS, TO YOUR POINT, THAT IS, THAT IS A CHALLENGING PART AND WE CAN ALSO UTILIZE OUR EXISTING ZONING MAP. 
          AND HOW DOES THAT CORRELATE INTO A NEW, A NEW MAP BASED ON A NEW DISTRICT. 
          SO WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN THAT STEP, UM, WITH OUR CONSULTANT AND WE ARE, AND IT'S THE FIRST PLACE WE, WE ARE GOING AND WE'RE, WE'RE BOUNCING IDEAS BACK AND FORTH CURRENTLY. 
          SO DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ZONING MAP AS OF 12 31 25? YOU'LL HAVE A DRAFT ZONING MAP, A DRAFT ZONING MAP, AND WHEN ARE GOING, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO ADOPT DISTRICT PLANS? 
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BECAUSE THOSE NEED TO BE ADOPTED BEFORE A ZONING MAP IS EVEN PREPARED AS A DRAFT. 
          SO WE ARE, THE, THE DISTRICT PLANS RUNNING JUST AHEAD OF THE LMO AND SO WE'RE USING THAT AS GUIDANCE EVERY, EVERYTHING'S IN DRAFT FORM. 
          SO THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME CALIBRATION AS DISTRICT PLANS. 
          ADVANCE DISTRICT PLANS WILL COME JUST AHEAD OF LMO IF THERE'S CHANGES TO FUTURE LAND USE MAPS. 
          IF THERE'S CHANGES TO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN THE DISTRICTS, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF, OF WORK ON THE, ON THE, ON THE BACK END WITH THE LMO. 
          BUT WE ARE WORKING BACK AND FORTH WITH THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS AS, AS THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE DRAFTING PROCESS. 
          SO O OKAY. 
          SO NOW YOU'VE REALLY  NOW YOU'VE REALLY INTRODUCED A LOT MORE INTO THIS PROCESS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ESTABLISHING A TASK FORCE. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE TASK FORCE IN PLACE BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2025. 
          AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA HAVE A ZONING MAP BY 12 31 20 25. 
          AND BEFORE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE DISTRICT PLANS ADOPTED. 
          WHEN WILL THE DISTRICT PLANS BE BEFORE EVEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BEFORE THIS BODY DISTRICT PLANS WILL NOT BE ADOPTED BY 1231. 
          WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR, IS IT NOVEMBER? OCTOBER. 
          OCTOBER, THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE A WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER WHERE WE WILL SHARE WITH, WITH TOWN COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, THE DRAFTS OF THE, OF THE DISTRICT PLANS AND WHERE THEY ARE. 
          AFTER WE HAVE THAT WORKSHOP, THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THOSE DISTRICT PLANS AND WE WILL BEGIN THAT, THAT THAT PUBLIC REVIEW AND ADOPTION PROCESS AS THE DISTRICT PLANS, AS WE MOVE OUT OF, OUT OF THAT WORKSHOP. 
          I GUESS I SHOULD CANCEL MY THANKSGIVING PLANS. 
          . 
          I DON'T THINK YOU NEED, WE'RE GONNA BE BUSY. 
          WELL, BUT, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT, MAYOR. 
          IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAS SPENT TIME LOOKING AT THESE DISTRICT PLANS, WHICH WAS GREAT. 
          THE STAFF DID A GREAT JOB AT HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THE DISTRICT PLANS AND PUTTING OUT INFORMATION. 
          BUT I'M NOW VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN ARE WE GONNA BE CONSIDERING THESE DISTRICT PLANS, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BE CONFRONTED WITH TEXTS AND A ZONING MAP, DECEMBER 31. 
          AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THOSE DISTRICT PLANS AND THE INTERIM AND, AND, AND THE DISTRICT PLANS COVER OUR FUTURE LAND USE ZONING IS A, IS A PART, BUT, UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY PART OF THE DISTRICT PLANS. 
          AND AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR PROCESS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE, WE ARE WORKING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CODE CONSULTANT AND WITH STAFF ON THOSE DISTRICT PLANS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN ALIGNMENT, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE STILL HAVE SOME PUBLIC PROCESS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND THAT ALIGNMENT MAY SHIFT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL WORK. 
          BUT, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT BASED ON THE DIRECTION WE'VE HAD SO FAR ON DISTRICT PLANS, THE PUBLIC INPUT WE'VE HAD SO FAR ON DISTRICT PLANS, WE UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE HEADED AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT IN THE DIRECTION THAT THOSE ARE HEADED TO, TO START TO INJECT THAT INTO A DRAFT OF A ZONING DISTRICT MAP THAT IS LIKELY GONNA GO THROUGH SOME REFINEMENT AS AS IT GOES TO A TASK FORCE, AS IT GOES TO PLENTY COMMISSION AS IT COMES TO TOWN. 
          COUNCIL. 
          MAYOR, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE A FULL OUTLINE OF THIS PROCESS BECAUSE I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AT THIS POINT. 
          MR. ORLANDO, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? WE'LL SHOW THAT WE, WE HAVE A, A FULL DRAFT. 
          UM, JUST TO REITERATE, WE WILL SHOW YOU THE DRAFT DISTRICT PLANS, RIGHT? OF ALL THE DISTRICT PLANS. 
          I THINK THERE'S EIGHT. 
          Y'ALL ADOPTED ONE SOME YEARS AGO IT WASN'T A MAJOR LIFT AND IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T SCRUBBED FOR MONTHS. 
          UM, WE WILL, WE WILL BRING YOU THOSE DISTRICT PLANS AT AN OCTOBER WORKSHOP. 
          WE WILL BRING YOU THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE AT A DECEMBER WORKSHOP. 
          UM, WE WILL HAVE, AS PART OF THE DISTRICT PLANS, UM, A A LOOK AT A FUTURE LAND USE MAP THAT SHOULD DRIVE ZONING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND AS WE DELIVER TO YOU AND, AND, AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE, MY, AS WE DELIVER A LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE THAT JUST AUTO AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDES A ZONING MAP AND ZONING TEXT AS WELL AS ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          SO THOSE ARE YOUR DELIVERABLES THAT WE WILL SHARE WITH YOU A A LOT MORE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. 
          UM, I I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK SCHEDULED. 
          MAYOR, YOU AND I GO OVER, UH, AGENDAS AND PIPELINE AND SCHEDULING BY, BY MONTH AND QUARTER OFTEN. 
          AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BALANCE ALL THIS WITH ALL OF YOUR OTHER, UH, PRIORITIES, IF I MIGHT, FROM A BEST PRACTICES SCENARIO. 
          IS THIS SET UP IN THAT REALM AS A BEST PRACTICE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          HOLD ON, MS. MA'AM, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M, I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON THE ANSWER FROM MS. BRYSON'S QUESTION BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE TOLD THE COMMUNITY THAT OUR DISTRICT PLANNING EFFORT WOULD LEAD TO A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THEN LMO OVERALL. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN ARE THE DISTRICT PLANS GOING TO BE ADOPTED? IF YOU LIKE, WHAT WE BRING YOU IN OCTOBER SOON THEREAFTER, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE DISTRICT PLANS GET ADOPTED. 
          YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER YOUR DIRECT QUESTION, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I HAVEN'T YET. 
          Q1 2026, CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THAT NUMBER OUT LOUD. 
          AND THE LMO WOULD MOST LIKELY BE 
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INTO Q3 2026. 
          I, I ALSO WOULD APPRECIATE, UM, WHAT MS. BRYSON WAS ASKING FOR AS FAR AS A FORMALIZED OUTLINE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WITH THIS, JUST HELP US AS WE'RE MAKING OUR DECISIONS DOWNSTREAM AS FAR AS APPOINTMENTS ARE CONCERNED. 
          WE HAVE, WE OUGHT TO ALSO BE AWARE THAT Q3 2026 IS AN ELECTION MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, UM, WE CAN'T GET, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL YEAH. 
          SO THAT IT DOESN'T GET DELAYED FOR A NEW SITTING COUNCIL. 
          SO, WELL, I, I MEANT TO SAY Q2 . 
          WE, WE, WE WILL HAVE A CODE FOR YOU, MAYOR PERRY. 
          WE'LL HAVE A CODE FOR YOU. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, I IMAGINE THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER. 
          THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RUNWAY FOR NEW TOPICS NEXT YEAR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THESE DISTRICT PLANS, WHICH IS JUST A MEANS TO AN END, UM, AND JUSTIFY ZONING CHANGES, UM, AS WELL AS THE LMO. 
          SO STAY TUNED. 
          DR. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A PLEDGE. 
          UM, BACK IN 2014, THERE WAS A LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE REWRITE. 
          AND OUT OF THAT, A LOT OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT OUR ISLAND, UM, TODAY WE'RE TRYING TO CORRECT, UM, CAME FROM THERE. 
          AND MY PLEDGE IS THAT WE WON'T MOVE SO FAST AND WITHOUT, AND THAT WE WON'T MOVE WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY. 
          WE WILL HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN PUBLIC INPUT AND CAREFUL DELIBERATION. 
          AND I CHALLENGE EVERY ONE OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE GONE AND LOOKED AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS NOW CALLED, I GUESS, DISTRICTS RATHER THAN ZONED SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHANGE MIGHT MEAN, UM, TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          BUT I PLEDGE TO BE DELIBERATE, TO BE INTENTIONAL AND TO BE INCREDIBLY CAREFUL AS WE ARE MOVING THIS PROCESS ALONE ALONG. 
          AND, UM, WHILE I'M ONE OF THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE UP FOR REELECTION IN THAT, UH, THIRD QUARTER, UM, I PLAN TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN A, TO GET REELECTED, BUT B, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROCESS IS RESULTS IN THE BEST HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE IT AS EVERYTHING WE DO DOES. 
          BUT 2014 WAS A DISASTER. 
          NOT GOING TO REPEAT THAT. 
          AND, UM, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE HERE TO KNOW. 
          YOUR INPUT IS IMPORTANT. 
          I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS WHATEVER YOUR THOUGHTS ARE. 
          YEAH. 
          I I JUST WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT REAL QUICK BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GONNA GO ABOUT THE ERRORS OF 2014. 
          UM, WITHOUT PROPER PUBLIC INPUT, THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT HAPPENED AFTER 2014 COULD HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE, AS MR. BROWN SAID, THAT YOUNG BABY THAT WAS GOING OUTTA THIS ROOM CRYING, THAT WE, WE MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE PROVIDE HER WITH A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, IT IS THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT MAKES IT WORK. 
          AND IT IS US LISTENING TO, TO YOUR COMMENTS AND HAVING THOSE DIALOGUES PROPERLY THAT MAKE IT WORK. 
          UM, WE'RE GETTING READY TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE, A WORKSHOP IN A MINUTE. 
          AND PART OF THOSE SOLUTIONS ARE IN THIS ALAMO REWRITE. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. 
          IT HAS BEEN A PRIORITY. 
          AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT, AND I TOLD MR. ORLANDO THE OTHER DAY, THIS IS MY NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, IF I'M TO PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          IT IS THE ALAMO REWRITE, GETTING IT DONE, MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          IT HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME, LONGER THAN WE THOUGHT, BUT GOOD THINGS TAKE TIME. 
          SO MS. BRYSON, I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE BUTTON. 
          YES SIR. 
          I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK. 
          UM, PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANY MISTAKE. 
          I'M PREPARED TO DO ALL THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          IN FACT, I DON'T EAT TRICKY AND I DON'T EAT PUMPKIN PIE, SO I'LL GIVE UP THANKSGIVING . 
          UM, BUT I'M PREPARED TO DO THE WORK. 
          IT'S WAY TOO IMPORTANT. 
          AS A LOT OF FOLKS KNOW, I SPENT OVER 31 YEARS, UH, PRACTICING LAW AND MOST OF MY PRACTICE HAD TO DO WITH ZONING AND LAND USE. 
          AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO COMMUNITIES AND I'M DEDICATED TO THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          MR. MAY I CALL THE QUESTION? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO WE'VE GOT A FIRST ON THE TABLE FROM MS. BECKER, SECOND FROM MR. ALFRED. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          OKAY. 
          I TELL YOU WHAT, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S I'M GONNA OFFER A, UH, HOW ABOUT A 10 MINUTE BREAK UNTIL WE GO INTO THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION. 
          SO IT IS, UH, FIVE 14 RIGHT NOW. 
          SO 5 25. 
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SO NEXT WE HAVE A 
          [10.a. Discussion of a Potential Temporary Moratorium for the Acceptance and Processing of Applications Related to Short-Term Rentals, Timeshares / Interval Occupancies, and Major Subdivisions - Curtis Coltrane, Town Attorney]
WORKSHOP ITEM REGARDING A DISCUSSION REGARDING A DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL TEMPORARY MORATORIUM FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND PROCESSING OF APPLICATIONS RELATED TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, TIMESHARES, INTERVAL OCCUPANCIES AND MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS. 
          TOWN COUNCIL IDENTIFIED THE ASSESSMENT OF A TEMPORARY MOR TORMENT AS A PRIORITY ACTION ITEM WITH THE MOST RECENT ADOPTED STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN. 
          BEFORE I GO TO MR. COLTRANE AND MR. LEER, I APPRECIATE ALL THE INPUT THAT EVERYBODY HAS PROVIDED ON THIS VERY SENSITIVE SUBJECT. 
          WE HAD A MAYOR ONE TIME BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES WHO TRIED TO SHUT DOWN HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          HE FAILED THAT HE SURVIVED. 
          AND HE HAD, HE GOT IT THROUGH, I DOUBT ANY OF US WOULD BE HERE. 
          HE MADE A STATEMENT THAT NO KIDS DESERVED PLAYGROUNDS. 
          THEY NEEDED TO GET A SAILBOAT AND GO SAILING. 
          THIS WAS A MAYOR THAT DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          THIS IDEA OF A MORATORIUM CAME AROUND FROM A WORKSHOP COUNCIL. 
          DIDN'T SAY NO. 
          SO HERE WE ARE TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          I AM GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, OUR INDUSTRY IS TOURISM, HOSPITALITY, AND REAL ESTATE. 
          WHEN YOU HAVE A SPOT ON YOUR LEG, YOU DON'T CUT YOUR LEG OFF, FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS, YOU TREAT IT. 
          WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS TODAY ABOUT HOW WE ARE TREATING THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, SOME LIKE TO THINK THAT THE PROBLEM IS WIDESPREAD ACROSS THE ISLAND. 
          I DON'T HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT. 
          I THINK WE ARE TAKING A VERY DANGEROUS LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON WITHOUT PROPER UNDERSTANDING AND WITHOUT PROPER REGULATIONS AND WITHOUT PROPER ENFORCEMENT. 
          IT WASN'T UP UNTIL JUNE, JULY OF THIS YEAR THAT WE HAD THE ABILITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS AND ENFORCE THE REGULATIONS THAT WE PUT INTO PLACE. 
          I AM NOT FOR A MORATORIUM ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          NO, NO. 
          IT IS OUR FUTURE. 
          I WANNA SAY THIS. 
          THE MODERN HISTORY OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, 60 YEARS, IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY ALL THE GUESTS, ALL OF US THAT ARE HERE. 
          'CAUSE WE WERE ALL GUESTS EXCEPT FOR MR. BROWN. 
          HE WAS BORN HERE. 
          THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE HAVE, MITCHELLVILLE FREEDOM PARK, THE ROADS, WE HAVE THE $47.5 MILLION BEACH RENOURISHMENT THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE OF OUR GUESTS. 
          OUR VALUE, OUR BOND RATINGS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE STRIVED FOR FOR DECADES. 
          AAA BOND RATING, ONE OF ONLY TWO IN THE STATE THAT HAVE THAT, WE ARE PUTTING IT AT JEOPARDY. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE THAT AAA IS BECAUSE OF STABILITY. 
          WE ARE MESSING WITH THAT STABILITY. 
          YESTERDAY I WATCHED THE COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AND I REALLY DIDN'T HEAR A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY WANTED A MORATORIUM. 
          ACTUALLY DIDN'T HEAR THE WORD A WHOLE LOT. 
          THAT WAS A POSITIVE. 
          YES. 
          QUALITY OF LIFE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. 
          WHETHER YOU ARE AN ISLAND RESIDENT, AN ISLAND BUSINESS OWNER, RESIDENT, A PROPERTY OWNER, WHAT WE DO ON THIS DAIS AFFECTS EVERY SINGLE PERSON. 
          BODY OF LIFE IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE RESIDENT, IT IS ABOUT THE BUSINESS. 
          IT IS ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE. 
          THOSE 6% PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY DO BECOME OUR PRIMARY RESIDENTS. 
          WE WANT TO HAVE GOOD PEOPLE HERE. 
          WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          I WANT TO ASK COUNSEL A QUESTION BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THIS. 
          BASED OFF OF YESTERDAY'S MEETING, WHO WANTS TO SEE A MORATORIUM ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS? DO WE NEED TO HAVE THIS 
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DISCUSSION? SPECKER? UM, WELL, MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          UM, AS YOU HAD WATCHED THE MEETING YESTERDAY, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ASKED, ONE OF MY RESPONSES, UM, WAS WHAT IS, OR I MAYBE I ASKED THE QUESTION, UM, WHAT IS A MORATORIUM? WE ARE ALL HERE WITH SOME IMPRESSION OF WHAT A MORATORIUM MEANS, AND YET WE HAVEN'T DEFINED WHAT A MOR MORATORIUM WOULD BE. 
          AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS, IS IS PRETTY IMPOSSIBLE AT THIS MOMENT. 
          I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS IMPORTANT. 
          SO, AND THE DEFINITIONS OF WORDS ARE IMPORTANT AS WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, SO THAT WE ALL ARE USING THE SAME LANGUAGE. 
          NOW, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SEVEN DIFFERENT ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION UP HERE. 
          UM, YOU'RE ASKING ARE WE INTERESTED IN ANYTHING REMOTELY HAVING TO DO WITH, UM, SHORT TERM RENTALS AND ANY, ANYTHING CONTROLLING THEM? MAYBE? UM, I'M NOT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE MORATORIUM. 
          JUST MORATORIUM. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THEN LET ME JUST STOP TALKING, WHICH IS ALWAYS A FAVORITE OF YOURS, UM, . 
          SO LET ME, LET ME OBLIGE YOU AND, UM, AND UNTIL WE DEFINE WHAT A MORATORIUM IS THROUGH THE CONVERSATION, I DON'T THINK WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          AGAIN, I WANNA SAY THAT REGULATIONS ARE IMPORTANT AND THINGS HAVE GOTTEN OUTTA CONTROL. 
          I THINK THAT THE TOWN MANAGER AND STAFF CAN COME TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH THIS ALIMO REWRITE AND PROVIDE US THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO, TO GO WITHOUT A MORATORIUM. 
          MAYOR, YOU ASK A QUESTION AND I RESPONDED. 
          IN ALL HONESTY, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS VERY PREMATURE BECAUSE THE STRAT PLAN SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS THIS. 
          WELL, LET US ASSESS THIS BEFORE WE HAVE TO RAISE OUR HAND. 
          BUT I'M NOT AFRAID TO RAISE MY HAND, BUT I WANNA HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          AND YOU HAVE ALREADY PUT YOUR POSITION OUT THERE. 
          NOW IT'S OUR TURN TO LISTEN TO THE STAFF INFORMATION AND THEN TO HAVE INPUT AND LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY INPUT TOO. 
          IT'S PREMATURE TO ASK US THIS QUESTION, BUT YOU FORCED ME TO RAISE MY HAND AND I AM BOLD ENOUGH TO RESPOND AND TO DO THAT. 
          AND I HOPE THAT WILL BE RESPECTED. 
          OKAY, MR. DESMOND, I SAW YOU, YOUR BUTTON. 
          THERE'S A PROCEDURE. 
          LET'S DO THE PROCEDURE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. 
          HOW'S THAT? THAT'S GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCILOR REAL QUICK? OKAY, MR. COLTRANE. 
          MR. LINEER, MAYOR, I ALWAYS SAY WHO'S ON FIRST? OH, NO, WHAT'S ON FIRST, SECOND, NO, MAYOR. 
          WHAT, WHAT'S ON SECOND MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL? MY NAME IS CURTIS COLTRANE CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON ISLAND. 
          AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A MORATORIUM IN THIS CASE. 
          UH, WHAT IS ON THE WORKSHOP AGENDA IS ACTUALLY THREE, AND YOU CANNOT LOOK AT THEM AS A GROUP. 
          THEY ALL HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT SEPARATELY. 
          THE FIRST QUESTION IS, IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, CAN A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ADOPT AND ENFORCE A MORATORIUM ON DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS? FOR EXAMPLE? THE VERY SHORT ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS YES, BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS ONLY THIS IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THERE IS NOT A BRIGHT LINE PROHIBITION AGAINST DOING SUCH A THING IN ORDER TO ADOPT ONE AND TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT. 
          THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN THAT ARE DATA DRIVEN. 
          DELIBERATIVE PROCESSES. 
          FIRST, A PROBLEM OR PROBLEMS THAT HAVE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON THE COMMUNITY HAVE TO BE IDENTIFIED. 
          IN DOING SO, YOU ALSO HAVE TO, THROUGH YOUR DATA-DRIVEN AND DELIBERATIVE PROCESS, ATTACH THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECT TO THE TARGET. 
          MEANING, I DON'T WANNA MAKE THINGS UP, BUT YOU HAVE A, A, A SPECIFIC TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          LET'S SAY YOU SENSE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ARISING IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU HAVE TO LINK THE TWO UP. 
          AND AGAIN, IT IS A DATA-DRIVEN DELIBERATIVE PROCESS THAT 
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THE COUNCIL HAS TO GO THROUGH. 
          THE COUNCIL HAS TO DETERMINE HOW IT PLANS TO ADDRESS THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS THAT ARE CAUSED BY WHATEVER THE TARGET IS. 
          THIS HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL CAN ACTUALLY DO, MEANING IT HAS TO BE A PROCESS BY WHICH THE TOWN CAN ADOPT ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. 
          AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS A CONCRETE THING THAT YOU CAN DO. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CANNOT ADDRESS EMOTIONAL RESPONSES TO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS. 
          YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO FIX IT, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE STEPS TO FIX IT. 
          SO HERE YOU HAVE THREE SEPARATE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. 
          YOU HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS, YOU HAVE MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, YOU HAVE TIMESHARE DEVELOPMENTS. 
          FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE THREE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          HERE IS WHAT WE BELIEVE THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM TO BE. 
          HERE ARE THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS THAT ARE TIED TO THAT THING. 
          HERE IS HOW WE PLAN TO FIX IT. 
          THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD DO THIS HAS TO HAVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT THAT ARE BASED ON THE DATA THAT SHOW WHAT THE TOWN COUNCIL INTENDS TO DO TO FIX IT, AND HOPEFULLY SHOW HOW YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WILL FIX IT. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S A SEPARATE ONE FOR EACH OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 
          EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS EASY TO SAY AND ONLY TOOK A FEW MINUTES, THAT REPRESENTS A LOT OF WORK, REPRESENTS A LOT OF DATA, REPRESENTS A LOT OF MASHING THE DATA INTO THE REALITY THAT WE SEE OUT HERE TO COME UP WITH PROBLEM EFFECT. 
          HERE'S HOW WE SOLVE IT, THEN WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS ACTUALLY EXECUTE YOUR PLAN TO SOLVE IT. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A REAL PROBLEM HERE. 
          ONCE YOU'VE DONE THAT, YOU'LL GO FORWARD AND ADOPT WHATEVER THE REGULATIONS ARE THAT YOU THINK NEED TO BE DONE. 
          BUT I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE SOME PLACES HAVEN'T DONE THAT. 
          YOU SAY, WELL, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GONNA FIX IT. 
          AND THEN THEY JUST DON'T. 
          SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO, GO FIX IT. 
          MR. LEININGER, IN HIS MEMO TO THE COUNCIL ON THE LAST TWO PAGES, HAS A FOUR STEP PROCESS THAT ENCOMPASSES THESE THINGS. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT IS A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. 
          THE DEVIL, AS IT IS, WITH EVERYTHING IS IN THE DETAILS. 
          THE DEVIL IS IN THE DATA, AND THE DEVIL IS IN HOW WE LINK UP THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS WE PLAN TO ABATE TO THE PROBLEM THAT WE ARE IDENTIFYING AS CAUSING THEM. 
          BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, ABSENT SPECIFICS THAT SOMEONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT, THERE ISN'T A WHOLE LOT TO SAY BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL GONNA BE AD HOC DISCUSSIONS BASED ON THE STATE OF FACTS THAT EXIST THAT ARE DRIVING THE DESIRE TO DO THIS. 
          AND THEN AS YOU WORK THROUGH THAT, THEN YOU WORK OUT THE DETAILS AND HOW YOU ACTUALLY GO ABOUT DOING IT. 
          BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SHORT ANSWER, CAN IT BE DONE? YES. 
          LONGER ANSWER. 
          IT INVOLVES A DATA DRIVEN DELIBERATIVE PROCESS TO GET YOU FROM PROBLEM THROUGH EFFECT, THROUGH SOLUTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING AGAIN. 
          MAYOR PERRY, MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL, MR. TOWN MANAGER, SEAN LEININGER, DEPUTY TOWN MANAGER. 
          SO WITH THAT BACKGROUND, UH, MR. COLTRANE MENTIONED DATA. 
          I'M GONNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH SOME DATA. 
          THE MAYOR'S ALREADY LAID OUT WHY WE'RE ALL HERE. 
          UH, GOING BACK TO OUR RECENTLY ADOPT STRATEGIC STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN, THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS A MORATORIUM. 
          AND IN OUR STAFF REPORT, WE, WE, WE'VE STARTED TO LAY THAT OUT. 
          AND RIGHT HERE IN THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH, A MORATORIUM IS A TEMPORARY PAUSE. 
          IT IS NOT A PERMANENT PROHIBITION. 
          AND DURING THAT TEMPORARY PAUSE, WE'LL BE REQUIRED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, LOOK AT OUR LICENSING, OUR ZONING, OUR SUBDIVISION DESIGN, OTHER LAND MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS, 
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AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT MR. COLTRANE WAS, UH, DESCRIBING. 
          HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT ISSUE? AND ON THE END OF THAT PROCESS, THEN ADOPT REGULATIONS THAT AND LICENSING PROVISIONS, POLICIES, PROGRAMS, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE THAT ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES THAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO SET OUT TO DO. 
          THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY, UH, A TOWN, WHY A TOWN COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL MAY CONSIDER A, A MORATORIUM. 
          THESE AREN'T ALL OF 'EM, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE MORE COMMON ONES. 
          ONE IS PRE PREVENTING PREEMPTIVE APPLICATIONS. 
          BY THAT I MEAN, WHEN WE ARE ADOPTING A LAND NEW UPDATES TO OUR LAND MANAGEMENT ORDERS, OR REALLY ANY CHANGE TO A CODE FOR THAT MATTER, ONE OF THE EFFECTS THAT CAN HAPPEN IS THAT WE WILL RECEIVE PREEMPTIVE APPLICATIONS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS, FROM DEVELOPERS, WHOEVER IT MIGHT BE, TO GET IN FRONT AND HOLD THEIR PLACE IN LINE BEFORE THOSE NEW REGULATIONS GO INTO EFFECT. 
          THAT'S THE ONE REASON WHY TO ADOPT A MORATORIUM. 
          WE ALSO WANT TO MANAGE IMPACTS ON COMMUNITY CHARACTER. 
          WE'VE, WE TALKED A LOT YESTERDAY ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST AS WELL. 
          AND THE IMPACTS THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS AND TIMESHARES ARE HAVING ON NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY IN OUR CHARACTER, THAT PAUSE ALLOWS US TO STUDY THOSE EFFECTS. 
          AS WE TALK ABOUT TOURISM INCREASE IN TOURISM, WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW DO WE RESPOND TO THOSE IMPACTS? HOW DO WE GET NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO HELP SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS AMENDMENTS TO OUR TI TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ORDINANCE. 
          UH, AND THEN ALSO TO FACILITATE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND LEGAL CLARITY. 
          IT ALLOWS US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TALK ABOUT THIS WITHOUT THE, THE, THE, THE APPLICATIONS AND OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE ROLLING AND PUTTING ADDITIONAL PRESSURE ON THOSE ISSUES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS. 
          SO WHEN IT COMES TO DATA, WE STARTED TO LAY OUT JUST SOME, SOME FACTS AND FIGURES HERE, UM, THAT ARE, THAT ARE LAID OUT IN, IN THE REPORT FROM THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAFFIC THAT WE'RE RECEIVING, THE INCREASE IN SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT WE'VE SEEN. 
          UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S, THERE'S, I'VE HEARD FROM SOME, SOME OF THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT THE NUMBER IS THAT WE'RE UTILIZING FOR THAT BACKGROUND. 
          UH, OF 2020 BEING 3000 UNITS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          WE UTILIZED, UH, THE VCB DATA THAT WE HAD AVAILABLE TO, TO COME WITH THAT NUMBER. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT NECESSARILY THAT WHAT THE, THAT PERCENTAGE IS. 
          BUT WE ARE SEEING AN IMPACT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WE ARE SEEING AN IMPACT IN THE ISLAND, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOCUSED IN ON. 
          YOU'VE SEEN SOME DATA ON THE RECENT HOUSING WORKSHOP ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE SALE OF HOUSING. 
          THE COST OF HOUSING, I SHOULD SAY IT'S BEEN UP 75% SINCE 2020. 
          OUR NUMBER OF DWELL UNITS IS INCREASING. 
          WE'RE ALSO SEEING MORE IN INCREASES IN TIMESHARE UNITS. 
          WE ALSO THEN REACHED OUT, WE TRACK, UH, WITH SOME HELP FROM THE COUNTY AND OUR, AND OUR TEAM BACK IN THE G OVER IN IT. 
          AND THE GIS DIVISION, THEY HELP US TRACK 4% VERSUS 6% PROPERTY AS TAX ASSESSMENT HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE OWNER OCCUPIED PRIMARY RESIDENT, YOU PAY 4%. 
          IF YOU'RE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT OWNER OCCUPIED, UM, OWNER OCCUPIED PRIMARY RESIDENT, YOU PAY 6%. 
          SO THIS IS LOOKING AT THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE FOUR VERSUS 6% THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE. 
          AND WE HAVE LAND USE CODES THAT WE CAN PULL, TEASE THIS OUT OF THE, OF THE OVERALL DATA SET AS WE TRACK THIS OVER TIME. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE, FROM 2019 TO 2024, WE'RE WORKING ON 2025 DATA, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S BEEN A STEADY INCREASE IN BOTH 4% AND 6% UNITS YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          THE COMPOSITION OF 4% VERSUS 6% HAS OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SO YEARS HAS BEEN AROUND THE 60 40% RANGE, MEANING 40% OWNER OCCUPIED, 6% NON-OWNER OCCUPIED. 
          WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THIS DATA THOUGH, IS BOTH ARE BOTH ARE INCREASING. 
          WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INCREASE IN OWNER OCCUPANCY BECAUSE THE PERCENTAGE SHARE OF THE TOTAL MARKET HAS GONE UP NOT MUCH, BUT A HALF PERCENT SINCE 2019. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE CHANGE IN NUMBER DATA OR CHANGE IN CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR IN EACH ONE OF THOSE HERE, UH, BELOW. 
          BUT IN TOTAL, SINCE 2020, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THERE'S ABOUT 915 NEW UNITS, UH, HERE ON THE ISLAND RESIDENTIAL UNITS. 
          AND FOR THOSE THAT WERE FOLLOWING ALONG YESTERDAY AT OUR CSPS MEETING, A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION IS GONNA BE ON REPEAT AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHARE HERE TODAY AS WELL. 
          UM, FIRST, LET'S START. 
          WE'VE TALKED ALREADY A LOT ABOUT THE LMO TONIGHT. 
          THE LMO DOES NOT REGULATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          THE ONLY THING THAT REGULATES SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS OUR TOWN CODE, WHICH HAS A LICENSING REQUIREMENT THAT BASICALLY IF YOU OWN A RESIDENTIAL HOME, YOU CAN RENT IT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A LICENSE, A SHORT-TERM RENTAL LICENSE, AND A BUSINESS LICENSE, AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT SET OUT IN THAT, THAT CODE. 
          THOSE LICENSES EXPIRE EVERY YEAR ON DECEMBER 31ST. 
          THE RENEWAL 
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OPENS ON NOVEMBER ONE AND CONTINUES UNTIL DECEMBER 31 FOR RENEWALS. 
          YOU CAN APPLY IF YOU'RE A NEW SHORT-TERM RENTAL, YOU CAN APPLY AT ANY TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          BUSINESS LICENSES FOLLOW GENERALLY THE SAME PROCESS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE WAY WINDOW IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          UH, THEY EXPIRE ON APRIL 30 OF EACH YEAR, UH, AND RENEWAL PERIOD IS JANUARY ONE THROUGH APRIL 30. 
          AS FAR AS WHERE WE ARE TODAY, UH, IN KEY PERMIT KEY SHORT TERM RENTAL DATA, THIS SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR FROM A, FROM A TABLE THAT WE HAD BACK IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH EACH BEDROOM, NUMBER OF SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS, I SHOULD SAY, WITH, WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE BEDROOMS, WHAT THAT REPRESENTS AS FAR AS A TOTAL COMPOSITION OF 7,042 SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS ON THE ISLAND. 
          UH, AS WAS THE CASE IN FEBRUARY, IT'S STILL THE CASE TODAY. 
          THE TWO BEDROOM UNITS ARE OUR NUMBER ONE BY FAR, OUR NUMBER ONE AREA WHERE OUR SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE LOCATED. 
          UH, IF YOU BREAK THAT DOWN TO THE, TO THE FOUR UNITS, EVEN TO THE THREE UNITS, A VERY STRONG MAJORITY OF ALL OF OUR UNITS ARE THREE OR FOUR BEDROOMS OR LESS. 
          WE ALSO ASKED FOR SOME DATA. 
          THIS IS REPORTED BY APPLICANTS WHEN THEY APPLY FOR THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNITS. 
          UM, I'M SORRY, WE ACTUALLY PULL THIS DATA FROM THE COUNTY. 
          THE REST OF THIS DATA IS REPORTED BY, BY THE APPLICANTS. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE THE AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH UNIT. 
          YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY IS FOR EACH UNIT, WHAT THAT WORKS AS FAR AS FROM AN AVERAGE. 
          SO THIS QUESTION CAME UP YESTERDAY. 
          WE SEE THAT THERE'S A TWO BEDROOM UNIT THAT, THAT HAS A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF 12. 
          THAT MIGHT JUST BE ONE PERSON, ONE UNIT THAT'S SHOWING A MAXIMUM  OF 12, BUT THAT'S THE MAXIMUM REPORTED. 
          WHAT'S IMPORTANT THEN IS THE, THE AVERAGE FOR THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL POOL OF 2,985 UNITS. 
          AND THIS NUMBER IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF HOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE SAFETY, LIFE SAFETY TYPE ISSUES. 
          UH, BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE'VE SUGGESTED THAT ANY UNITS THAT LARGER THAN 3,600 SQUARE FEET SHOULD HAVE A MONITORED SMOKE ALARM SYSTEM AND A MANUAL FIRE ALARM. 
          AND THAT WAS BASED ON 3,600 SQUARE FEET. 
          AS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDS DIFFERENTLY TO STRUCTURES THAT ARE MORE OR LESS THAN 3,600 SQUARE FEET, MEANING IF IT'S, IF IT'S LARGER, THEY'LL RESPOND WITH MORE PEOPLE, MORE EQUIPMENT. 
          WHEN WE CONTINUE TO BREAK THIS DATA DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE MO, OVER 70% OF OUR SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE IN FACT VILLAS OR CONDOS. 
          LESS THAN 30% ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS. 
          THIS IS WHERE OUR SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE LOCATED BY NEIGHBORHOOD, AT LEAST THOSE TOP FIVE OR SIX OR SO NEIGHBORHOODS I SHARED YESTERDAY A MAP. 
          LET ME PULL UP THE MAP AS WELL JUST TO SHARE IT HERE TODAY. 
          UH, SO THIS IS A MAP. 
          UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO OUR GS DEPARTMENT AND, AND, AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT FOR PULLING THIS DATA TOGETHER AND GETTING THIS MAP TOGETHER. 
          UM, BUT TOOK A LOOK AT AND LAID OUT ALL OF THE PUDS, SEA PINES SHIPYARD, LE LEAMINGTON, PALMETTO DUNES, WEXFORD, AND SO FORTH. 
          SO THIS SHOWS ALL THE PDS, THOSE 10 PDS THAT WE HAVE ON, ON THE ISLAND SHOWS OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS FROM CHAPLAIN, MITCHELLVILLE, AL SQUARE, POPE, THE STONY AND, AND SO FORTH. 
          AND IT ALSO SHOWS SOME OF THOSE AREAS, UM, THAT WE, UH, SOUTH FOREST BEACH, NORTH FOREST BEACH, UH, FOLLY FIELD AREA, AND STARTS TO IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, HOW MANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE GRAPHICALLY ON A MAP IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          NOT SURPRISING, THEY'RE IN THE PDS, THEY'RE ALSO ON THE OCEAN AND SOUND SET. 
          MOSTLY THE OCEAN SIDE OF, OF 2 78 WAY MOUNT PARKWAY. 
          MIGHT NEED SOME HELP. 
          KIM. 
          I DUNNO IF I CAN GET BACK, I CAN GET BACK. 
          ALRIGHT, THANKS. 
          HEY, SEAN, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE REAL QUICK, I, I SEE PEOPLE TAKING PICTURES. 
          THIS IS ALL ONLINE. 
          YES. 
          THE NEXT DATA SET THEN IS BY ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH THE MAP I JUST SHARED, MOST OF OVER HALF OF OUR UNITS, OVER HALF OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS ARE LOCATED IN THE, IN THE PD ONES, THOSE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS, THOSE GATED COMMUNITIES ON THE ISLAND, FOLLOWED BY THE RESORT DISTRICT, OUR SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, RSF FIVE, AND THEN RE, UH, RESIDENTIAL MIXED, UH, DISTRICT, WHICH IS A DENSITY OF EIGHT. 
          THIS IS CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENED, UH, THIS FROM JANUARY ONE TO AUGUST ONE OF THIS YEAR. 
          UH, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS TABLE YESTERDAY. 
          UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ARE NOT ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          WE RECEIVED MANY, MANY MORE COMPLAINTS THROUGH GOV OS, THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT, THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR APP. 
          THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT WENT OUT, THEY VERIFIED THAT A VIOLATION EXISTED AND THEY TOOK ACTION ON IT. 
          SO OF OVER 500 COMPLAINTS THAT WE RECEIVED, 147 REQUIRED ACTION. 
          AND THAT'S HOW THE ACTION WAS BROKEN OUT ACROSS NOISE, 
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TRASH, PARKING, AND PERMITS. 
          THIS IS NEW DATA THAT WE STARTED TRACKING. 
          THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STARTED TRACKING SEPTEMBER ONE OF LAST YEAR. 
          SO WE NOW HAVE A FULL ONE YEAR LOOK BACK ON WHAT THE DENSITY, WHAT THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND TYPES OF CALLS ARE THAT WE MADE TO SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT BROKEN OUT HERE. 
          UH, A LOT OF EMS, A LOT OF FIRE ALARM ACTIVATIONS. 
          UNFORTUNATELY NINE FIRES, UM, AND OTHER INCIDENTS, A TOTAL OF 800, 800 TRIPS. 
          TRACKING THAT BY NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN, SEA PINES IS WHERE MOST OF OUR UNITS ARE LOCATED. 
          NOT SURPRISING THAT THEY ALSO HAVE THE MOST NUMBER OF TRIPS. 
          SAME THING WITH PALMETTO DUNES AND SO FORTH. 
          THIS NEXT SET OF DATA IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ASKED BY MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL TO PROVIDE, TO PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT INTO THE, TO THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS, THE, THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS, UH, PROVIDE TO THE ISLAND. 
          UM, AS I SHARED YESTERDAY, MAKE NO MISTAKE THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS VACATION TOUR IS THE NUMBER ONE INDUSTRY IN OUR ISLAND. 
          IT ALSO HELPS SUPPORT OTHER INDUSTRIES, OUR RESTAURANTS OR OTHER HOSPITALITIES. 
          THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE CLEANING AGENCIES, THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AGENCIES. 
          THERE'S A WHOLE SUBSECTION OF BUSINESSES THAT HELP SUPPORT THE VACATION RENTAL INDUSTRY. 
          THIS IS SIMPLY LOOKING AT SHORT TERM RENTALS AND WHAT THE RENTAL OF THAT UNIT PROVIDES TO THE TOWN. 
          AND SO WE CAN START BY LOOKING AT LOCAL TAXES AND FEES. 
          AND THIS IS FOR FY 25. 
          SO THESE ARE ACTUAL NUMBERS FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR. 
          WE COLLECT 2% IN ATEX FUNDS EACH YEAR OR ON, ON EACH RENTAL. 
          UH, THAT IS BROKEN OUT 1%, UH, FOR GENERAL PURPOSE. 
          AND THEN 2% GOES TO OUR BEACH PRESERVATION, UH, AND IS HELPING FUND THE BEACH PRESERVATION PROJECT THAT JUST STARTED LAST WEEK. 
          OF THAT, THERE'S OVER, UH, ALMOST $11 MILLION IN ATEX FUNDS THAT GET COLLECTED. 
          THERE ARE THEN WITH 7,042 UNITS AT $250 A POP, THERE ARE OVER A MILLION, ALMOST $2 MILLION IN FEES THAT ARE PAID, UH, IN LICENSING FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AND THEN BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE, THIS IS THE BUSINESS LICENSE REVENUES GENERATED FROM THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ITSELF. 
          LOOKING A LITTLE BIT LARGER PER TAKING A LITTLE BIT LARGER VIEW. 
          LOOKING AT THE STATE AND COUNTY TAXES, AGAIN, THERE'S A 1% BEAUFORT COUNTY GREEN SPACE TAX THAT'S COLLECTED A 2% STATE TAX AND A 5% SALES TAX OF THAT 2% A TAX. 
          WE DO SEND THAT TO THE STATE. 
          WE DO GET A LOT OF THAT BACK. 
          WE DO NOT GET ALL OF IT BACK, BUT A LOT OF THAT MONEY DOES FLOW BACK TO THE TOWN. 
          UH, BUT BETWEEN THOSE TWO, BETWEEN THOSE TWO, UH, THERE'S OVER $43 MILLION IN, IN REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED JUST ON SHORT TERM RENTALS ALONE. 
          WE THEN ALSO HAVE DATA RELATED TO THE NUMBER OF BUSINESS LICENSES FOR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES. 
          AGAIN, GETTING TO THAT POINT I MADE EARLIER ABOUT, THERE IS OTHER BUSINESSES THAT HELP SUPPORT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          SO SHIFTING GEARS AND TALKING NOW ABOUT TIMESHARES INTERVAL OCCUPANCY, UH, I'M GONNA REFER TO THEM AS TIMESHARES. 
          UH, TIMESHARES ARE NOT REGULATED BY SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. 
          THEY'RE, UH, HOTELS, MOTELS, THE HOSPITAL AND, UH, INTERVAL ANCY TIMESHARES ARE EXEMPT FROM THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU RENT YOUR UNIT, YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE. 
          UM, ALSO TIMESHARES ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY ARE PURPOSE BUILT. 
          THEY'RE BUILT TO BE, THEY'RE BUILT FOR, FOR INTERVAL OCCUPANCY. 
          AND SO THEY ARE REGULATED LIKE A HOTEL WOULD BE BY OUR LMO. 
          AND THERE ARE SPECIFIC DISTRICTS, I WON'T READ THEM ALL, THEY'RE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN, BUT THEY'RE IN OUR MORE DENSE, MORE MIXED USE TYPE OF AREAS OF WHERE WE ALLOW, UM, TIMESHARES CURRENTLY THAT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE. 
          SO HERE ARE SOME SIMILAR DATA, UM, NOT QUITE AS EXTENSIVE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL DATA RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT ARE EXEMPT FROM THAT, THAT THAT REQUIREMENT. 
          BUT WE BELIEVE THERE ARE AROUND 3,172 ISH TIMESHARES ON THE ISLAND. 
          UM, WE DO TRACK OUR GOV OS SYSTEM THAT WE UTILIZE TO MANAGE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          IT LOOKS FOR ANYTHING THAT'S FOR RENT ON THE ISLAND FROM THAT DATA. 
          THERE'S SOME, IT'S IDENTIFYING 1,172 POTENTIAL TIMESHARES THAT ARE BEING RENTED. 
          UM, SOMEONE IS SELLING THEIR INTERVAL, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR THEIR WEEK, THEIR MONTH, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE ON, ON, ON A LISTING SOMEWHERE. 
          UM, AND, BUT 110 INDIVIDUAL OWNERS HAVE BUSINESS LICENSE WITH THE TOWN. 
          LOOKING AT LOCAL TAXES, THAT SAME BREAKDOWN I SHARED BEFORE OF LOCAL, UH, A TAX VERSUS BUSINESS LICENSE TAX. 
          UM, WE CAN SEE THAT THERE'S OVER, UH, $600,000 IN, IN LOCAL TAXES THAT ARE COLLECTED. 
          UH, AND THEN A SIMILAR ANALYSIS WITH THE TIMESHARE STATE AND COUNTY TAXES. 
          THAT GREEN SPACE TAX STATE, A TAX AND SALES TAX. 
          ANOTHER, UH, 1.6, ALMOST 1.7 MILLION. 
          SO ALMOST OVER $2.3 MILLION IN, IN FUNDS. 
          UH, AND THERE ARE 11 PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH TIMESHARES. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUE THAT COMES FROM THAT. 
          UH, THE LAST OF THE THREE TOPICS THAT WE ARE ASSESSING A MORATORIUM FOR IS MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, TO BE CLEAR, 
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MAJOR SUBDIVISION, ANY SUBDIVISION INTO MORE THAN FIVE LOTS. 
          UM, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY STAFF. 
          THEY'RE ALSO SUBJECT TO REVIEW. 
          NOW BASED ON A, A RECENT CHANGE THAT THE TOWN MANAGER MENTIONED EARLIER BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, SINCE 2020, THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR SUBDIVISIONS APPROVED. 
          TOLLING 200 LOTS, A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS UNDER DEVELOPMENT. 
          NOW, TODAY, UH, THE TOWN ATTORNEY HAS GONE THROUGH AND, AND SUMMARIZED THIS INFORMATION HERE AS FAR AS THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK, THE RELEVANT AUTHORITIES, LEGAL AND POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, UH, ALREADY AS PART OF HIS COMMENTARY, I WILL JUST ADD THAT AS FAR AS THE CRITICAL PATH OF, OF WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS IF, IF TOWN COUNCIL DOES DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, GIVES DIRECTION TO TOWN STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A MORATORIUM, WE NEED TO GET TO WORK AND PROVIDING THAT DATADRIVEN ANALYSIS TO, TO, TO CARRY THIS FORWARD. 
          AT THAT POINT, THEN WE'LL FINALIZE OUR LEGAL FINDINGS. 
          WE'LL PUT TOGETHER THE ENABLING ORDINANCE, WE'LL PRESENT BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING IN, IN A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A SECOND READING. 
          UH, AND THAT'LL BE THE FINAL ADOPTION OF THE MORATORIUM. 
          UM, ONE THING I JUST DO WANT TO GO BACK TO, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT'S OFTEN BEEN ASKED IS HOW LONG, I DON'T BELIEVE MR. COLTRANE ANSWERED THIS IS HOW LONG CAN A A A A MORATORIUM BE? UM, THERE'S NOT SPECIFIC GUIDANCE ON THAT, BUT IT'S GENERALLY, UM, 180 TO 365 DAYS. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S EXAMPLES AROUND THE STATE, UH, WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S, THIS IS THE, THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK, THE RELEVANT LEGAL AUTHORITIES AND, AND POLICY CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND WITH THAT, AND IF I MISSED ANYTHING, CURTIS WE'LL, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL OR DO WE WANT TO GO TO THE PUBLIC FIRST? YES, I'M ASKING. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          I AGREE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? AND, AND I'M GONNA , DO WE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT, BUT I AM GONNA ASK, UM, YOU KNOW, I MADE A STATEMENT IN THE BEGINNING THAT WE HAVE A EIGHT O'CLOCK END TIME. 
          UM, SO IF, IF YOU SPEAK AFTER SOMEBODY, IF YOU AGREE, YOU, IF YOU CAN SHORTEN YOURS, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          NOT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT UM, JUST BE MINDFUL. 
          OKAY, HERE WE GO. 
          COREY WINSELL. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS COREY WINSELL. 
          I HAVE AT 2 49 WATER FILE. 
          I SPOKE YESTERDAY AS WELL. 
          AND I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW GOOD OF A JOB YOU DO. 
          YOU HAVE THE MOST THANKLESS POSITION I COULD EVER IMAGINE. 
          SO I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICES. 
          UM, I, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THERE'S BEEN A VERY LONG PERIOD OF LOOK BACK AND STUDY DONE ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          I ACTUALLY ASKED MS. BECKER THAT EARLIER, AND I'M NOT GONNA PUT WORDS IN HER MOUTH. 
          AND I'M ASSUMING THIS HAS BEEN MANY YEARS OF REVIEW AND DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO IF, IF, IF WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS AND HAVE HAD SO MANY PROBLEMS, WE HAVE STAFF DO THIS AMAZING REPORT. 
          I WISH MY STAFF COULD DO REPORTS LIKE THIS. 
          IT'S FANTASTIC, BUT IT'S MISSING REALLY KEY PIECES OF DATA. 
          IF I'M GONNA MAKE A DECISION THAT COULD IMPACT THE ENTIRE FUTURE OF AN ISLAND OR A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, I WANT A LOT MORE INFORMATION. 
          I WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'LL HAPPEN TO MY BONDS. 
          IF WE GO DOWN THIS ROAD. 
          MAYOR TALKED ABOUT AA CREATED RED BONDS. 
          HE'S CORRECT. 
          YOU'RE THE ONLY TWO IN THE STATE. 
          DID A LOT OF HOMEWORK ON THIS. 
          A LOT OF OTHER STATES DON'T HAVE ANY CITIES THAT HAVE AAA RATED BONDS. 
          SO WHERE'S THE STUDY THAT HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED AND PAID FOR, FOR THIS INFORMATION? IF WE GO DOWN THIS ROAD, DOES ANYONE HAVE A COPY OF IT THEY COULD SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC? IS THERE NO, IS THERE NO STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE? OKAY. 
          IS THERE A STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE OF POTENTIAL LAWSUITS THAT COULD OCCUR AND HOW WE WOULD COVER THOSE? 'CAUSE I DOUBT OUR INSURANCE POLICIES WOULD DO. 
          SO IS THERE ANY STUDIES THAT ANYONE CAN SHARE WITH ME ON THAT INFORMATION? OKAY, SO I HAVE TO ASK MYSELF THEN SPEC USE THE WORD TRANSPARENCY. 
          I FEEL LIKE THERE'S TRANSPARENCY THAT'S MISSING IF WE HAVEN'T EXAMINED WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF THESE ENORMOUS CHANGES ARE MADE. 
          UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, CURRENTLY THERE'S 1200 HOMES ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW BETWEEN CONDOS AND HOMES. 
          IF A MORATORIUM IS PUT INTO PLACE, I WOULD BET MONEY THAT NUMBER DOUBLES OR TRIPLES. 
          MOST INVESTORS RUN FOR THE EXITS. 
          THEY DON'T WAIT AROUND. 
          THEY JUST SHOOT THE GUN AND GO. 
          SO DOES THAT NOT GONNA DRIVE DOWN THE VALUES OF EVERYONE'S HOME IN THIS ROOM? OF COURSE IT WILL DRAMATICALLY DO. 
          ALL THE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS REALIZED THE POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT CAN OCCUR. 
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AND I'M NOT GONNA GO ON MUCH MORE, BUT I WANNA KNOW IF ANYONE KNOWS WHERE CRAIG FROM THE TODAY'S SHOW STAYED AT . 
          MY GUT TELLS ME HE STAYED AT A BEACH HOUSE IN SEA MINES, ALONG WITH THE MUSIC FESTIVAL AND ALL THE HERITAGE, UH, FANTASTIC PEOPLE THAT COME TO WATCH THAT GOLF TOURNAMENT. 
          THERE'S NO TO HOUSE THEM IF WE GO DOWN THIS ROAD OF A MORATORIUM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANDY DALE. 
          DO NOT SEE ANDY IN THE ROAD. 
          ANGIE HUTCHINS. 
          HI. 
          UM, I HAVE LIKE 12 PAGES OF NOTES AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO COALESCE 'EM ALL BECAUSE AS YOU ALL HAVE SHOWN US BY BEING HERE FOR THREE HOURS, THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS OUT THERE. 
          AND SO I, UM, I THINK IT'S NO COINCIDENCE. 
          I'M GONNA JUST HIT A FEW HIGH SPOTS. 
          I THINK IT'S NO COINCIDENCE THAT MR. BARNWELLS QUOTE, UM, FROM TODAY, BE A LIGHT INSTEAD OF CURSING. 
          THE DARKNESS IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S A SKY IS FALLING SENTIMENT THAT HAS BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT. 
          UM, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS SPECIFICALLY. 
          UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND AS A FORMER NURSE, I KEEP THINKING WHEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM, THE MEDICAL MANTRA IS FIRST, DO NO HARM THE AMOUNT OF MY 12 PAGES. 
          THAT IS ALL THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. 
          I CANNOT EVEN DESCRIBE, UM, OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN FROM ANY MORATORIUM. 
          I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT THE DEFINITION IS BECAUSE I THINK ANY MORATORIUM IS HARMFUL AND ALREADY HAS BEEN HARMFUL. 
          I SPENT YESTERDAY TALKING TO OUR CLIENTS AS A REALTOR THAT, UM, ALREADY HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL HERE. 
          AND IT, UM, JUST, I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO FIND OUT FROM ANY NEWS SOURCE FIRST. 
          I WANTED THEM TO HEAR IT FROM ME. 
          UM, OF PEOPLE THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BUYING OR BUYING, WE'RE CUTTING OFF THE, WE'RE CUTTING OFF OUR FUTURE RESIDENTS BY THINKING ABOUT MORATORIUMS AND OVERREACHING MICROMANAGEMENT OF THE ONES THAT ARE DOING IT RIGHT, THAT WERE CUTTING OFF THE STORY OF HILTON HEAD BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO GOT HERE BY HAVING A SECOND HOME THAT THEY COULD OFFSET THEIR INCOME. 
          I THINK, UM, THE ARTICLE ABOUT HILTON HEAD BEING CLOSED, I REPOSTED IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WRITING IT. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS WELL RESEARCHED AND, UM, AND VERY ACCURATE IN TERMS OF WHAT REAL PEOPLE ARE FEELING IN THE FUTURE OF THIS ISLAND. 
          HOW DO WE GET TO MOVE HERE AND THEN SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE WHEN WE'VE ENLARGED THE AIRPORT, WE'RE GETTING THE BRIDGE. 
          WE WANT REASONABLE BALANCED, BUT WE WANNA PROTECT THE ISLAND. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE THAT, AND I LOVED MR. ORLANDO'S RECOUNT OF THE GOOD THINGS WE'VE DONE OVER SINCE TOWN COUNCIL WAS IMPLEMENTED. 
          YOU AND YOUR PREDECESSORS HAVE SAVED OVER 2000 ACRES OF THIS ISLAND SO THAT THE SIZE OF MANHATTAN WILL NOT BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S GREEN SPACE THAT WILL NEVER GET DEVELOPED. 
          THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE WITH LMO AND THERE'S THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU FINALLY HAVE TEETH IN. 
          MY FINAL PLEA IS TO, WE KNOW THE PROBLEMS WE'VE SEEN. 
          WE FINALLY GOT THE DATA THAT OVER HALF THE PROBLEMS ARE ON THE NON GATED COMMUNITIES. 
          PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE NON GATED COMMUNITIES, AND I HEAR THEIR COMPLAINTS, BUT IN TRYING TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS, DON'T PUNISH THE REST OF THE PEOPLE. 
          THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. 
          THANK YOU, RICHARD. 
          FIZZY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, RICHARD. 
          BUSY INDIGO RUN. 
          MORATORIUM IS NOT A FOUR LETTER WORD. 
          AS THE AUTHOR OF THE ONLINE PETITIONED CALLING FOR A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS, TIMESHARES, AND NEW SUBDIVISIONS, I WANT TO CLARIFY MY INTENT. 
          THIS IS SIMPLY A SIX MONTH PAUSE. 
          NOTHING MORE. 
          IN JUST SIX WEEKS, OVER 800 PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED OUR PETITION. 
          THIS IS NOT A BAN, IT'S A PAUSE TO GIVE OUR COMMUNITY TIME FOR A THOROUGH, THOUGHTFUL REVIEW AND TO DEVELOP SENSIBLE GUIDELINES. 
          GUIDELINES THAT PROMOTE RESPONSIBLE GROWTH WHILE PRESERVING WHAT MAKES HILTON HEAD SO SPECIAL. 
          YESTERDAY I HAPPENED TO SPEAK WITH A VERY WELL KNOWN LOCAL REALTOR. 
          I TOLD THE INDIVIDUAL I WOULDN'T USE HIS NAME. 
          WHAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUY AN EXISTING PROPERTY THAT'S CURRENTLY USED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL? WOULD THEY BE PROHIBITED FROM RUNNING IT OUT DURING A MORATORIUM? NOW MY ANSWER IS NO. 
          THIS PROPOSED PAUSE IS ABOUT HALTING NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS, NEW TIMESHARES, AND NEW SUBDIVISIONS. 
          OF COURSE, THE FINAL LANGUAGE WOULD NEED TO COME FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY, BUT THE INTENT IS CLEAR. 
          I WANNA SPEND THE REST OF MY TIME TALKING ABOUT A RECENT EMAIL SENT TO THOUSANDS OF HILTON ME RESIDENTS WRITTEN BY 
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COUNCILMAN ALEX BROWN. 
          YOU'VE ALL SEEN THIS. 
          I'M SURE THE PUBLIC HAS AMERICA'S FAVORITE ISLAND CLOSED. 
          MR. BROWN CLAIMS THE PEOPLE LEADING THE CHARGE TO SHUT OUR OUR ISLAND DOWN ARE THE SAME FOLKS WHO HAVE PERSONALLY PROFITED FROM SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND TIMESHARES. 
          LET ME BE VERY CLEAR, I'M THE AUTHOR OF THIS PETITION, MR. BROWN. 
          I'VE NEVER OWNED A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR TIMESHARE. 
          HE GOES ON TO SAY, A MORATORIUM IS THE EPITOME OF GOVERNMENT OVERREACH AND AN INVASION OF PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          IT TELLS THE WORLD THAT HILTON HAD IS CLOSED FOR BUSINESS. 
          THAT IS UTTER NONSENSE. 
          A SIX MONTH PAUSE TO PLAN RESPONSIBLY. 
          IT'S NOT A SHUTDOWN. 
          IT'S GOOD GOVERNANCE. 
          AND THEN HE ADDS THE LOUD MINORITY WANTS TO DELAY MEANINGFUL PROGRESS, DRAGGING HILTON HEAD BACKWARD. 
          GOOD FOR ME, NOT FOR THEE. 
          WELL, THAT'S JUST MISLEADING. 
          IT'S DIVISIVE RHETORIC WITH NO BASIS. 
          IN FACT. 
          AND IN FACT, THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE DOES A DISSERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND FRANKLY, I THINK THIS COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER CENSORING MR. BROWN FOR HIS RECKLESS AND INFLAMMATORY COMMENTS. 
          WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. 
          I GET THAT. 
          BUT ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD. 
          AND MR. BROWN, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE. 
          LET'S BE CLEAR. 
          HILTON HEAD IS NOT CLOSED. 
          HILTON HEAD IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN, AND YOU, MR. BROWN SHOULD KNOW BETTER. 
          IT'S FEAR MONGERING AT AN EXTREME, AND IT'S NOT LEADERSHIP, IT'S PROPAGANDA AND IT'S PURE BS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU CARL SAMPSON. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME'S CHARLES SAMPSON. 
          UH, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          DON'T AGREE WITH SOME OF YOUR OPINIONS, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          I, I LIVE IN HILTON HEAD PLANTATION, BUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS MY HOME. 
          UH, I MOVED HERE. 
          I FIRST WALKED ON THE BEACHES IN 1958 AND THEN MY PARENTS DID SHORT TERM RENTALS AND FOR SPEECH FOR HOMES IN THE SUMMERS OF, OF 1960S. 
          UH, MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE IN 1972. 
          WE HAVE THREE DAUGHTERS. 
          PROUD TO SAY THAT THEY ALL LIVE IN THE AREA. 
          ONE DAUGHTER AND HER HUSBAND OWNS A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS HERE. 
          ANOTHER DAUGHTER WORKS WITH ME AND IS A BOAT CAPTAIN. 
          DOES, UH, DOLPHIN TOURS. 
          AND THE YOUNGEST DAUGHTER HAS BEEN A NURSE AT THE HOSPITAL FOR 22 YEARS. 
          HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS OUR HOME. 
          WE HAVE SIX GRANDCHILDREN AND THREE OF 'EM WORK ON THE ISLAND. 
          THE OTHER THREE ARE STILL IN SCHOOL. 
          UM, I'VE ALSO, I'M PROUD TO SAY I'VE BEEN A REAL ESTATE AGENT FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, BEING A REAL ESTATE AGENT, THE FIRST THING YOU DO WHEN YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY, YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          UH, ARE THEY GONNA MOVE HERE? ARE THEY GONNA USE IT AS A SECOND HOME? ARE THEY GONNA USE IT AS A SECOND HOME? UH, AND RENT IT OUT EITHER SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM? AND IF THEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORT TERM, SO IF THEY SAY THEY WANT SHORT TERM, THEN THE CLOSER THEY CAN GET TO THE BEACH, THE BETTER THEY'RE GONNA DO. 
          SO YOU WOULD SUGGEST PROBABLY F FIELD, BRADLEY BEACH BURKE OR SINGLETON BEACH. 
          PAMELA DUNES, EXCEPT EMINGTON SHIPYARD, FOREST BEACH OR, OR SEA TIMES, WHICH WERE ON THAT REPORT. 
          THOSE WERE THE AREAS IN THAT REPORT. 
          AND, AND IF THEY WANNA BE NEAR THE BEACH, BUT DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SHORT TERM RENTAL AREA, WELL THEN YOU'VE GOT FORT BOYLE AND HILTON HEAD PLANTATION WITH DOLPHIN HEAD. 
          UH, AND IF YOU DON'T WANT SHORT TERM RENTAL, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS TO SHORT TERM RENTAL. 
          UH, THE SIX PERCENTERS, THEY ARE ALL OUR SIX PERCENTERS. 
          AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S WHAT PAYS FOR OUR SCHOOLS. 
          UH, THE TRANSFER FEES THAT HELPS PAY FOR THE BIKE TRAILS IF, WHEN THE PROPERTY SELLS BUSINESS LICENSE FEES, UH, THE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX. 
          I MEAN, I'VE LIVED HERE LONG ENOUGH TO WHERE THE HYATT POOLS ALMOST FALLEN IN THE OCEAN. 
          UH, THE HYATT NOW IS, IS THE HILTON. 
          UH, THE, THE, UH, BENEFITS TO THE SYMPHONY. 
          YOU KNOW, A MORATORIUMS GONNA LOWER PRICES IF YOU DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE UNKNOWN TO PEOPLE. 
          AND PEOPLE THAT ARE THINKING ABOUT BUYING A SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, PROPERTY TO PUT IT IN SHORT TERM RENTAL, MIGHT NOT BUY. 
          SO THEN THAT SELLER'S GONNA HAVE TO LOWER THE PRICE. 
          WE WOULD ASK YOU NOT TO DO A MORATORIUM. 
          MR. BROWN DID HAVE SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS, UH, AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO FOLLOW THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU DE ANTHONY. 
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OH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS DEE ANTHONY. 
          I'M A RESIDENT OF JONESVILLE ROAD. 
          UM, I'M A LIFETIME ISLAND RESIDENT. 
          I HAVE THREE CHILDREN, UM, AS OF LAST SATURDAY, SEVEN GRANDCHILDREN. 
          THEY ALL LIVE HERE. 
          UM, SO I TAKE ALL THIS VERY SERIOUS AND I TAKE OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS VERY SERIOUS. 
          SO I'M GONNA, I'M RESPONDING WITHOUT A CLEAR AND PRESENT DEFINITION TO MORATORIUM. 
          SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT ALL THIS MEANS TO ME. 
          WHAT A LOCAL MORATORIUM MEANS TO ME IS TO TAKE A PAUSE THAT THE STAFF CAN CATCH UP AND MAKE THE PROPER CHANGES FOR CONTROLLED GROWTH WITHOUT ANY MORE DAMAGE BEING DONE. 
          STAY AT THE CURRENT SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMITS. 
          A PAUSE ON NEW SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMITS. 
          THAT'S NOT SAYING GET RID OF ALL THE SHORT-TERM CURRENT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          UM, A PAUSE ON NEW SUBDIVISIONS. 
          UM, THE LIST THAT WAS UP THERE, TWO OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE NEW MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS ARE ON JONESVILLE, SPANISH FALLS ROAD 147 AND 22 UNIT. 
          UM, A PAUSE ON, ON BUILDING NEW TIMESHARES. 
          HAS ANYONE BEEN TO FOLLY FIELD? HOW ARE THEY HANDLING THE TRAFFIC THERE? HOW ARE THEY GONNA HANDLE THE TRAFFIC THERE? WE'LL SEE, THERE'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THIS DOES NOT MEAN NO NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          IT DOESN'T MEAN CONSTRUCTION STOPS. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN FEAR TACTICS AND UNTRUTHS PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC. 
          I'M KIND OF TIRED OF FEELING LIKE I CAN'T SPEAK OUT AND I'M REALLY TIRED OF THE FEARMONGERING 'CAUSE IT IS REAL. 
          THIS A, A MORATORIUM. 
          OH, I'VE GOT TO RESPOND TO, UH, YESTERDAY'S MEETING WHEN SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT, UM, OUR BONDING AND SUCH. 
          UM, SO I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON IT. 
          HE'S WAY FURTHER AHEAD THAN I AM ON IT, BUT I DID LOOK IT UP. 
          AND, UM, WHAT I FOUND WAS A MORATORIUM CAN ACTUALLY STRENGTHEN A TOWN'S BOND RATING IF IT IS FRAMED AS A STRATEGIC TEMPORARY MEASURE, THAT THAT DEMONSTRATES PRUDENT FISCAL MANAGEMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, AND A PROTECTION OF LONG OF A THE LONG-TERM TAX BASE. 
          THE KEY IS THE RATING IS THE RATING AGENCIES NEED TO SEE, UM, AS PART OF THE CONTROLLED GROWTH STRATEGY. 
          IT'S NOT A NO GROWTH, IT IS A CONTROLLED RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. 
          WHAT IS GO, WHAT IS IT GONNA COST US IN THE FUTURE? WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE OUTPACING OUR OWN? WHY WE ARE OUTPACING OUR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE? HOW MUCH MONEY IS IT GONNA COST IN THE FUTURE? HOW MUCH WILL WE HAVE TO BORROW IN THE FUTURE TO RECOVER ALL THE DAMAGE WE'RE DOING NOW? THIS IS NOT, AGAIN, ANTI-GROWTH. 
          IT'S A MEASURE TO HAVE CONTROL. 
          GROWTH DOESN'T CONTROL GROWTH, SHOW RESPONSIBILITY AND LEADERSHIP DOESN'T. 
          QUALITY GROWTH BODE WELL OVER MASS, OVER MASS GROWTH WITHOUT PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CECIL. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UM, MY NAME IS CECILE ECK AND I AM A LONG-TERM RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD. 
          I'VE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 
          I AM, UH, PRIVILEGED TO SERVE ON THE AT TAX COMMISSION. 
          I'M JUST GETTING READY TO START MY THIRD YEAR. 
          UM, I HAVE ENJOYED IT. 
          I LOVE HEARING ALL THE GREAT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE, UM, AND WHAT THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, BUT I AM ALSO THE OWNER OF A VACATION RENTAL COMPANY. 
          I HAVE BEEN A VACATION RENTAL MANAGER FOR 40 YEARS. 
          I STARTED IN CHARLESTON, UM, MARRIED SOMEONE WHO OWNED A COMPANY ON HILTON HEAD. 
          HE PASSED AWAY. 
          AND I'VE BEEN RUNNING THE BUSINESS FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. 
          UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          I I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT THE COUNCIL HAVE, AND I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR ALL RENTAL MANAGERS, BUT I, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE, OF THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE IN PLACE FOR US IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WERE DESIGNED TO BE EVALUATED IN 2026 THAT WE WERE GONNA REEVALUATE WHERE WE WERE. 
          MAYBE I HAVE THAT WRONG, BUT WE WERE GOING TO PUT THESE, PUT THESE PROCESSES IN PLACE, SEE HOW WE WERE DOING MOVE FORWARD. 
          I KNOW I, AS A COMPANY, AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR MOST OF THE OTHER RENTAL MANAGERS HERE, WE HAVE LICENSED OUR CLIENTS. 
          WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH PARKING REGULATIONS. 
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WE PUBLICIZE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT IN THE UNITS. 
          UH, WE ARE ADDRESSING OCCUPANCY. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL OF US ARE OPEN TO REASONABLE REGULATIONS. 
          UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT I DO REALIZE THAT IF YOU DO A SHORT TERM MOR MORATORIUM, IF YOU PUT ONE IN PLACE TODAY, IT IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON NOT ONLY MY BUSINESS, BUT MANY, MANY, MANY OTHER ISLAND BUSINESSES. 
          UM, I MET WITH TWO NEW HOMEOWNERS LAST WEEK. 
          THEY'VE SAVED, THEY'VE PLOTTED, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET HERE. 
          THEY FINALLY WERE ABLE TO FIND THEIR LITTLE PIECE OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND PUT DOWN THEIR DEPOSIT, AND THEY BOTH WANNA RENT. 
          NOW WHAT I ASKED BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE DIRECTLY, THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. 
          I DIDN'T REALLY WANNA SHARE THE DETAILS, BUT I ASKED BOTH OF THEM, WOULD YOU HAVE BOUGHT THESE PROPERTIES IF YOU HAD KNOWN THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RENT? BOTH OF THEM TOLD ME. 
          NO. 
          I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE OVERALL COMMUNITY AND I I HOPE THAT YOU'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU DANIEL. 
          DANIEL MOSKOWITZ, AND GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS MANAGER, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THIS DECISIONS YOU MAKE HERE, UH, THEY DETERMINE HOW TOMORROW'S FAMILIES, INVESTORS, AND VISITORS SEE HILTON HEAD. 
          YOU SET THE TONE FOR WHETHER THE ISLAND IS VIEWED AS WELCOME, STABLE, AND FORWARD LOOKING. 
          I'VE CALLED HILTON HEAD HOME FOR A LITTLE MORE THAN 20 YEARS. 
          THE TWO ON THE END CAN ATTEST, UH, DAYTONA TWO DECADES AGO. 
          UH, IN ANY CASE, I'VE SEEN COMMUNITIES, LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND HOW QUICKLY, UH, REPUTATIONS CAN BE DAMAGED IN THE LONG TERM IMPACTS OF THOSE. 
          AND THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM. 
          IT'S A BLUNT ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH THAT UNDERMINES BOTH CONFIDENCE, UH, AND CORE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          IT THREATENS THOSE WHO ALREADY HOLD TOWN BUSINESS LICENSES TO OPERATE LAWFULLY. 
          THINGS LIKE THE 90 DAY VACATION RENTAL ACT AGREEMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY MADE WITH TENANTS IN THE FUTURE. 
          UH, THERE'S A MULTITUDE OF LAYERS TO THIS AND IT SENDS A DAMAGING MESSAGE THAT HILTON HEAD ISLAND IS CLOSED FOR BUSINESS, RIGHT? AND WE ARE UNCERTAIN ABOUT OUR FUTURE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          IT'S, IT'S, UH, INTERESTING PROVIDED AT THE TIME I DID PULL UP CHAT, GPT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ADJECTIVES FOR, UM, MORATORIUM, RESTRICTIVE, LIMITING, PROHIBITIVE, CONFINING, BUREAUCRATIC, HARSH, UH, IT, IT'S A DANGEROUS THING TO BE TOSSED AROUND. 
          SO UNDERSTANDING AND RECOGNIZING WHAT WE INTEND TO DO IS, IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH CHOICE WORDS THAT IMPACT A, A LARGE AMOUNT OF, UH, BUSINESSES, A LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN OUR FUTURE. 
          I URGE YOU TO, UH, NOT LET HEARSAY OR FEAR GUIDE YOUR DISCUSSION. 
          UH, THE CHALLENGES WE FACE REQUIRE THOUGHTFUL, TARGETED SOLUTIONS, NOT A BROAD FREEZE THAT DISREGARDS PROPERTY RIGHTS, DISRUPTS LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES, AND ERODES TRUST IN OUR TOWN. 
          YOU CARRY TREMENDOUS RESPONSIBILITY, NOT JUST TO MANAGE THE PRESENT, BUT TO SAFEGUARD THE REPUTATION AND THE RIGHTS THAT DEFINE HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          I THANK YOU FOR YOUR STEWARDSHIP AND FOR THE SERIOUS FOR THE SERIOUSNESS WITH WHICH YOU CARRY YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, DREW BROWN. 
          GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. TOWN MANAGER. 
          MY NAME IS DREW BROWN AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND FOR 22 YEARS. 
          AFTER VISITING AS A TOURIST FOR 25 YEARS PRIOR, MY CONNECTION TO THIS COMMITTEE GOES BACK EVEN FURTHER. 
          MY FAMILY FIRST CAME HERE IN 1965, PURCHASED PROPERTY AND INVESTED IN TIMESHARES THAT KEPT US RETURNING YEAR AFTER YEAR. 
          I CHOSE WITH THAT TO ULTIMATELY LEAD ME TO BUILD MY LIFE, MY RAISE MY CHILDREN, AND LAUNCH ISLAND TIME HILTON HEAD IN 2019 WITH MY PARTNER ERIC MARAY. 
          TODAY OUR COMPANY EMPLOYS 22 BEAUFORT COUNTY RESIDENTS AND HOSPITALITY AND PROPERTY MANAGE. 
          I STAND HERE TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO A MORATORIUM ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          THIS ISSUE HAS BECOME DIVISIVE TOO OFTEN FRAMED AS RESIDENTS VERSUS SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          BUT LET ME BE CLEAR, THOSE OF US WHO OPPOSE THE MORATORIUM ARE 
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RESIDENTS TO, WE LIVE HERE, WE RAISE OUR FAMILIES HERE, AND WE CONTRIBUTE TO THE VERY FABRIC OF THIS ISLAND. 
          THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL INDUSTRY IS NOT AN ENEMY OF HILTON HEAD IS A CORNERSTONE OF OUR TOURISM ECONOMY AND FOR MANY OUR LIVELIHOODS. 
          YESTERDAY I LISTENED CLOSELY TO THE COUNCIL'S REVIEW OF, OF POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          I WAS STRUCK HOW OFTEN BY DECISIONS SEEM TO REST ON ANECDOTES AND SECONDHAND STORIES RATHER THAN VERIFIED DATA THAT IS NOT A SOUND BASIS FOR REGULATION. 
          WHILE A GESTURE HAS BEEN MADE TO INCLUDE STAKEHOLDERS AFTER DISCUSSIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED, NOTHING PREVENTS THE COUNCIL FROM MOVING FORWARD DIRECTLY WITH A VOTE AT ANY TIME. 
          THAT IS NOT MEANINGFUL. 
          ENGAGEMENT INDUSTRY LEADERS, MYSELF INCLUDED, HAVE REPEATEDLY MET WITH THE TOWN STAFF. 
          WE'VE OFFERED TO PARTICIPATE IN ORDINANCE GROUPS, SHARED NATIONAL EXAMPLES, AND CONNECT THE TOWN WITH ADVOCACY GROUPS WHO COULD PROVIDE DATA AND INSIGHT. 
          THOSE OFFERS REMAIN LARGELY UNACCEPTED. 
          THE PROCESS AND THE DATA BEING USED ARE THE REAL ISSUE. 
          THE STAFF MEMO INCLUDED IN THIS AGENDA AGENDA STATES THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAVE INCREASED 133% SINCE 2020. 
          THAT FIGURE IS INACCURATE, MISLEADING, AND DAMAGING TO PUBLIC TRUST. 
          I DID THE WORK FOR YOU, MIKE ALSCO DID THE WORK FOR YOU IN 2019. 
          PRIOR TO PERMITTING, THERE WERE 7,421 SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          DURING THE PANDEMIC, THAT NUMBER ROSE TO 9,701 IN 2022. 
          BY 2023, IT DROPPED NEARLY 2000 PERMITS TO 7,175 IN 2000. 
          TODAY IT STANDS AT 7,042 REPRESENTING A 27.5 REDUCTION IN PEAK AND EVEN LOWER THAN THE 2019 BASELINE. 
          ALL PULLED FROM TOWN DOCUMENTS THIS MATTERS BECAUSE NARRATIVE BEING PRESENTED IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S OWN DATA. 
          AT THE VERY MOMENT WHEN ACCURATE INFORMATION IS MOST CRITICAL, WE CANNOT AFFORD NUMBERS THAT ARE EITHER A RESULT OF CARELESS OVERSIGHT OR INTENTIONAL MISREPRESENTATION. 
          BOTH SCENARIOS UNDER UNDERMINED THE TRUST AND CREDIBILITY OF THIS COUNCIL IN THIS TOWN. 
          BEYOND THE NUMBERS, CONSIDER THE ECONOMIC IMPACT. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. 
          JENNY JACKSON. 
          HI, I'M JENNY JACKSON. 
          I LIVE IN HILTON HEAD PLANTATION. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN AN ISLAND RESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS, UH, BUT MY GRANDPARENTS BOUGHT A PLACE HERE IN IN SEA PINES IN 1960. 
          SO MY FAMILY STARTED OFF HERE AS SHORT-TERM RENTERS. 
          UM, MY GRANDPARENTS MOVED HERE PERMANENTLY IN 1972, AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE ISLAND SHORTLY THEREAFTER AND SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE TRYING TO GET HERE. 
          I GOT HERE EIGHT YEARS AGO. 
          MY HUSBAND SERVES OUR SCHOOLS AS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN. 
          I HAVE A SON IN HIGH SCHOOL AT HILTON HEAD ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL. 
          I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO GRADUATED LAST YEAR AND IS ATTENDING COLLEGE. 
          UH, WE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE VOLUNTEER IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES. 
          UH, WE, WE VOLUNTEER AND WE TRY TO BRING PEOPLE HERE TO HELP OUR ECONOMY AND SUPPORT IT THROUGH, UH, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL AND THE TOURISM INDUSTRY. 
          I IMPLORE YOU NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A MORATORIUM. 
          WE CAN MINCE WORDS ALL WE WANT AND SAY MORATORIUM MEANS THIS, OR MORATORIUM MEANS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP IN THE DICTIONARY, IT MEANS TO STOP A PROCESS. 
          I HAVE A MOTHER AND A SON WHO LIVE IN NEW JERSEY THAT HAD BEEN DYING TO MOVE TO HILTON HEAD. 
          HER HUSBAND PASSED AWAY AND HER SON'S LEGACY WAS TO BUY A SHORT TERM RENTAL ON HILTON HEAD. 
          THEY ARE FINALLY READY. 
          YOU ALL START A MORATORIUM. 
          THAT YOUNG MAN WHO'S 22 YEARS OLD AND WANTS TO TO CONTINUE HIS FATHER'S LEGACY ON HILTON HEAD DOESN'T GET TO DO IT FOR SIX WHOLE MONTHS. 
          MAYBE HE DECIDES TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          I ALREADY, I SELL REAL ESTATE ON THE ISLAND AND I ALREADY HAVE FOUR CLIENTS WHO HAVE CALLED ME AND STOPPED THEIR SEARCHES. 
          WE CAN SAY IT'S A PAUSE FOR SIX MONTHS, BUT THOSE PEOPLE WILL BUY ELSEWHERE. 
          IF THEY HAVE A 10 31 EXCHANGE AND THEY NEED TO ROLL THAT MONEY INTO SOMETHING ELSE, THEY WILL BUY ELSEWHERE. 
          AND THOSE ARE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT WON'T COME HERE. 
          UM, IT WILL DAMAGE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND YOU CAN SAY THAT IT IS A PAUSE, BUT THE ATTORNEY ALREADY TOLD US ALL THE INFORMATION YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PULL TOGETHER, AND THAT'S GONNA COST MONEY. 
          IT'S GONNA COST OUR TOWN MONEY TO PULL THAT TOGETHER. 
          YOU HAVE 800 SIGNATURES ON, ON A PETITION. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL MORE OF US HERE, I THINK MORE THAN 800 THAT ARE SAYING DO NOT DO THIS. 
          YOU SAID YESTERDAY, TOMORROW TO PUT RESIDENTS FIRST. 
          I AM A RESIDENT OF THIS ISLAND AND I AM ASKING YOU TO PUT ME FIRST AND THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY AS I DO. 
          A MORATORIUM IS NOT THE ANSWER. 
          DIG INTO THE DETAILS, FIND OUT WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE, MAYBE PAUSE AN AREA, MAYBE DO SOMETHING VERY STRATEGIC, BUT DON'T DO, THROW A BLANKET OVER OUR, TO OUR WHOLE ISLAND AND PAUSE THE ENTIRE PROCESS. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. 
          WE SAW THE DATA. 
          70% OF THE ISLAND DOESN'T HAVE SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          WE ONLY HAD 147, UH, VERIFIED COMPLAINTS WITH THE TOWN. 
          IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A HUGE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO EXPEND MONEY THAT THE ATTORNEY HAS ALREADY TOLD US THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE PROPER DATA FOR. 
          AND THE TOWN MANAGER HAS PROVIDED US WITH VARIOUS DATA. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. 
          AND 
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I AM ASKING MY COUNCIL MEMBER TO VOTE NO. 
          AND I'M ASKING MY MAYOR TO VOTE NO. 
          AND I'M ASKING THE REST OF YOU TO VOTE. 
          NO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JOCELYN STEIGER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL. 
          I AM HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE 1600 MEMBERS OF THE HILTON HEAD AREA REALTORS. 
          WE OPPOSE A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS. 
          THERE ARE CRITICAL REASONS FOR OUR OPPOSITION. 
          SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR TOURISM ECONOMY. 
          THEY BRING FAMILIES AND GROUPS WHO SPEND MONEY AT OUR RESTAURANT SHOPS, GOLF COURSES AND ATTRACTIONS. 
          STR GENERATE MORE THAN 14 MILLION ANNUALLY IN LOCAL TAXES AND FEES, INCLUDING 7.3 MILLION FOR BEACH PRESERVATION AND ANOTHER 29 MILLION IN STATE AND COUNTY REVENUE. 
          WHY JEOPARDIZE THE VERY REVENUE STREAM THAT FUNDS OUR BEACHES, ROADS, AND COMMUNITY SERVICES? BECAUSE OF ACT 3 88, BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL OPERATIONS RELY ON PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FROM SECOND HOMEOWNERS, INVESTORS AND BUSINESSES. 
          THESE ARE THE VERY PEOPLE BEING DISCOURAGED FROM INVESTING BY THE THREAT OF MORATORIUMS. WHY WOULD WE KNOWINGLY DAMAGE OUR CHILDREN'S SCHOOLS BY CUTTING OFF THEIR PRIMARY SOURCE OF FUNDING? MUCH OF THE REMAINING DEVELOPABLE LAND IS HEIRS PROPERTY OR OWNED BY NATIVE ISLANDERS. 
          A MORATORIUM WOULD STRIP THESE FAMILIES OF THEIR RIGHTS AND THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD WEALTH THAT IS UNFAIR, UNNECESSARY, AND DEEPLY DAMAGING TO THE VERY PEOPLE THAT HAVE CALLED HILTON HEAD HOME. 
          FOR THE LONGEST WORD OF A POSSIBLE MORATORIUM IS ALREADY CREATING UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKET. 
          REALTORS HAVE SEEN INVESTORS WALKING AWAY JUST FROM THE MERE DISCUSSION OF A POSSIBLE MORATORIUM. 
          A MORATORIUM WILL INTERFERE WITH PROPERTY OWNER'S ABILITY TO SELL CAUSE POSSIBLE DISPUTES WITH PROPERTIES CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT AND CAUSE A LOT OF CON CAUSE A LOSS OF CONFIDENCE TO INVEST IN THE HILTON HEAD REAL ESTATE MARKET. 
          THE TRUTH IS THAT THE PROBLEMS WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE LIMITED AND MANAGEABLE OUTTA 7,000 LICENSE UNITS. 
          THERE WERE ONLY 147 ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS LESS THAN 2%. 
          THOSE ISSUES CAN AND SHOULD BE SOLVED BY ENFORCING EXISTING ORDINANCES, NOT BY PUNISHING RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH A BLANKET BAN. 
          ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND THE 1600 REALTORS WHO ARE DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE FUTURE OF THIS ISLAND, I URGE YOU TO REJECT THESE MORATORIUMS. USE A SCALPEL, NOT AN AX. 
          ENFORCE EXISTING RULES, ADDRESS ISSUES WHERE THEY ACTUALLY OCCUR, BUT DON'T ENACT POLICIES THAT WILL HARM OUR ECONOMY. 
          STRIP PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS, DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY AND PUT OUR FUTURE AT RISK. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO ALL OF US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JULIE JANNING. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS JULIE JANNING AND I COME HERE AS A MEMBER OF THE HILTON HEAD AIR REALTORS, A BUSINESS OWNER AS A FORMER TENURE RESIDENT IN NORTH FOREST BEACH. 
          SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE A COMMON THEME HERE, BUT, UM, I AM, UM, HERE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO MANAGE GROWTH AND ADDRESS CONCERNS, BUT A BLANKET PAUSE ON NEW SHORT TERM APPROVALS WOULD HAVE FAR REACHING AND DEEPLY DAMAGING CONSEQUENCES ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE AT RISK AS ITS CORE. 
          THIS MORATORIUM UNDERMINES THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS TO USE THEIR HOMES AS THEY AS THEY SEE FIT. 
          MANY RESIDENTS IN THE AREAS THAT CAN BE SHORT-TERM RENTED HAVE INVESTED, UM, IN HILTON HEAD WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE LEGAL IN A VIABLE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          CURTAILING THIS RIGHTS AS A DANGEROUS PRESIDENT AND AND ERODES TRUST IN LOCAL GOVERNANCE. 
          PROPERTY VALUES WILL PLUMMET RESTRICTING SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHEN IT WILL INEVITABLY DEVALUE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE ISLAND. 
          BUYERS SEEKING INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES WILL LOOK ELSEWHERE, AND CURRENT OWNERS MAY SEE THEIR EQUITY SHRINK. 
          HE HAS REAL ESTATE MARKET THRIVES ON FLEXIBILITY AND TOURISM APPEAL. 
          THIS MORATORIUM THREATENS BOTH. 
          THIS IS A VIOLATION OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA VACATION RENTAL ACT. 
          THIS PROPOSED MORATORIUM, UH, CONFLICTS WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA VACATION RENTAL ACT, WHICH PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF OUR 
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VISITORS BY REQUIRING THE PURCHASER OF A PROPERTY ON THE RENTAL MARKET TO HONOR ALL RENTALS. 
          90 DAYS AFTER CLOSING. 
          ANY REGULATION THAT CONTRADICTS STATE LAW OPENS THE TOWN TO LEGAL CHALLENGES AS WELL AS LIABILITIES. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH YOU SAY THIS IS ONLY FOR NEW APPLICATIONS, SOMEBODY THAT BUYS A PROPERTY IS GONNA HAVE TO SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE CONFLICTIVE. 
          WITH THE 90 DAY RENTALS THAT NEED TO BE, UM, OPERATED, LOCAL BUSINESSES WILL SUFFER. 
          HILTON HAS ECONOMY IS INTRICATELY TIED TO TOURISM. 
          SHORT TERM RENTALS BRING THOUSANDS OF GUESTS ANNUALLY SUPPORTING RESTAURANTS, SHOPS, SERVICES, PROVIDERS, RECREATIONAL BUSINESSES. 
          MORATORIUM WOULD REDUCE VISITOR NUMBERS, LEAD TO LAYOFFS, CLOSURES, AND ECONOMIC STAGNATION. 
          A BALANCED APPROACH IS POSSIBLE RATHER THAN A SWEEPING MORATORIUM, I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PURSUE TARGETED ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING REGULATIONS. 
          STRENGTHENING COMPLIANCE, IMPROVING COMMUNICATION WITH OPERATORS IN ADDRESSING SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS ARE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE AND EQUITABLE STRATEGIES. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LARRY GIBBONS. 
          HELLO, UH, HELLO. 
          MY NAME IS LARRY GIBBONS. 
          SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW ME AS OT GIBBONS FROM THE HILTON HEAD LIVING SOCIAL MEDIA PROFILE. 
          MY WIFE, MY WIFE AND I WORKED EXTREMELY HARD, SAVED ALL OF OUR MONEY, MADE REAL LIFE SACRIFICES TO MOVE HERE. 
          THREE YEARS AGO, THIS COMMUNITY WELCOMED US WITH OPEN ARMS. WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 40 YEARS. 
          WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO GIVE BACK, HELP THE COMMUNITY, SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND MAKE THIS OUR HOME. 
          BUT I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS MORATORIUM MIGHT MEAN FOR US. 
          IF THIS MORATORIUM PASSES BASED ON ALL AVAILABLE EVIDENCE, INCLUDING MULTIPLE CASE STUDIES IN REAL WORLD EXAMPLES LIKE PALM SPRINGS, SOUTHLAKE, TAHOE, ASPEN, AND OTHERS, HOME PRICES IN COMMUNITIES LIKE PALMETTO DUNES AND SEA PINES WILL FALL BY 20 TO 30% IN PROVEN CASE STUDIES WITHIN 12 MONTHS, THE RIPPLE WILL NOT STOP THERE. 
          HOMEOWNERS IN HILTON NET WILL LOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN HOMEOWNER EQUITY, A DECLINE IN PRICE ON HOME PRICES OF THIS MAGNITUDE FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE WHO BELIEVED IN HILTON HEAD, INVEST IN HERE AND MADE THIS OUR HOME. 
          THIS WILL MOST LIKELY PUT US UNDERWATER ON OUR MORTGAGES. 
          AND THIS TIME IT WOULD NOT BE WALL STREET'S DOING. 
          THAT DECISION WOULD HAPPEN RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM TO PUT YOUR NEIGHBORS, POTENTIALLY YOUR FRIENDS UNDERWATER ON THEIR MORTGAGES. 
          MY HOME IS MY LIFE SAVINGS. 
          IT'S MY SECURITY AND IT IS MY FAMILY'S FUTURE. 
          OUR STORY IS VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE'S WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE HILTON HEAD ISLAND HOME. 
          THIS COUNCIL IS IN FACT SAID ON MANY OCCASIONS MORE THAN ONCE, THAT THIS ISLAND NEEDS TO GET YOUNGER. 
          BASED ON OUR HILTON HEAD LIVING PROFILE, WHICH HAS REACHED 90 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS, 90 MILLION PEOPLE THAT LOVE HILTON HEAD ISLAND, I FEEL UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO SPEAK ON WHAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ASKING AND SAYING ABOUT HILTON HEAD ISLAND. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION THAT WE GET ASKED THE MOST IS ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          NOT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE REAL ESTATE INVESTORS, NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO EVEN MAKE MONEY, BECAUSE THEY DREAM OF LIVING HERE ONE DAY AND BEING A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO BUY A HOME, ENJOY IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, RENT IT OUT TO MAKE ENDS MEET SO THAT THEY CAN EVENTUALLY MOVE HERE FULL-TIME. 
          SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE A BRIDGE TO MAKE THAT DREAM POSSIBLE AND TO TAKE THAT AWAY, TO TAKE AWAY THE VERY PATH THE YOUNG FAMILIES NEED TO GET HERE. 
          THAT'S NOT RIGHT. 
          AND LASTLY, I'LL END WITH THIS, THE CHARACTER OF HILTON, I'M SORRY. 
          HILTON NET IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, BUT WHAT TRULY GIVES HILTON NET, ITS CHARACTERS ON ITS BEACHES, THE PRESERVES, THE PARKS, AS MUCH AS WE ALL MIGHT ENJOY THEM, WHAT GIVES HILTON NET'S CHARACTER OR ITS PEOPLE, THE 2,500 SMALL BUSINESSES THAT SERVE THIS COMMUNITY, THE 160 NEW BUSINESSES THAT WERE ADDED LAST YEAR, AND ALL THE ENTREPRENEURS OVER THE YEARS THAT HAVE TAKEN A CHANCE ON HILTON BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED IN ITS FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU, MRS. LEBRON STEVENS. 
          YVONNE STEVENS, UH, FOR THE RECORD, UH, RESIDENT, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD, UH, GULLAH GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE MEMBER OF THE NATIVE ALLEN 
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LEADERSHIP, UH, MEMBER OF THE, UH, JUNIOR JAZZ FOUNDATION. 
          I WAS ON THE INAUGURAL BOARD FOR THE SANDBOX. 
          AND, UH, I HAVE ABOUT SEVEN JOBS, BUT ONLY TWO OF THEM PAY ME . 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL. 
          REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR SERVICE AND, UH, THE TOWN MANAGER A LOT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID, MR. MAYOR, AS YOU SAID EARLIER, SO I WON'T REPEAT, UH, A LOT OF WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID. 
          I WILL SHARE ONE THING WITH YOU THOUGH. 
          I A NATIVE OF, UH, SAVANNAH ACTUALLY GREW UP IN THUNDERBOLT, GEORGIA, SO I'VE BEEN COMING HERE, UH, SINCE PROBABLY THE SIXTIES. 
          LIKE MANY FOLKS HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED, HILTON HEAD ISLAND WAS ACTUALLY A COMMUNITY LONG BEFORE IT WAS A TOWN. 
          THERE WERE PEOPLE HERE. 
          WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THESE STORIES AND I WON'T REPEAT THAT, BUT I WANT TO SHARE THIS ONE STORY WITH YOU. 
          WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE A MORATORIUM AND I WANT US AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A TOWN TO THINK ABOUT THIS TOGETHER. 
          EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OPINION ABOUT WHAT MY COMMUNITY IS. 
          ONCE I, ONCE I GET HERE, THEN I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT MY COMMUNITY IS. 
          I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN WHO A FEW YEARS AGO, A NATIVE ISLANDER SAID HIS GRANDMOTHER HAD A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND SHE WANTED TO DEVELOP IT. 
          WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE TASK FORCE, TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE LMO AND OTHER CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD. 
          AND BEFORE WE COULD GET THAT PROPERTY DEVELOPED, HIS GRANDMOTHER PASSED. 
          HE LEFT HERE WITH A VERY BITTER TASTE IN HIS MOUTH ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN HERE ON HILTON HEAD. 
          THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE LEFT ARE OUTSIDE THE GATED COMMUNITIES. 
          THERE ARE NATIVE ISLANDERS AND OTHER FOLKS WHO HAVE PROPERTY THAT MIGHT WANT TO DEVELOP, AND WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME ANY OF US HAVE TOMORROW IS NOT PROMISED TO ANY OF US. 
          SO I I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT MAYBE SMART DEVELOPMENT AND NOT JUST COME INTO A HALT. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD ALL OF THE DAMAGING WORDS THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN. 
          WHEN WE TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT, UH, BEING HERE, I SEE MY FRIEND GREG RUSSELLS IN THE AUDIENCE, ALL THOSE IN HOSPITALITY, BILL MILES WITH THE CHAMBER. 
          WE'VE HEARD THE DMO EARLIER, EARLIER, AND A LOT OF OUR LIVELIHOODS COME FROM OUR TOURISM. 
          AND WHEN WE TALK TO EACH OTHER, A LOT OF TIMES WE SAY, HOW YOU DOING? SAYS, I'M LIVING THE DREAM. 
          I'M HOPING THAT ONE DAY ALL OF US CAN LIVE THE DREAM. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LISA MEDFORD, MAYOR TOWN COUNCIL. 
          MR. ORLANDO, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. 
          I'M LISA MEDFORD AND I'M A 37 YEAR ISLAND RESIDENT WITH, UH, I MIGHT RAISE MY KIDS HERE AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE I AM A REALTOR, BUT IN, IN EVERYTHING TIMING IS IMPORTANT. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF BUYERS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THE FENCE TO PURCHASE IN OUR AREA. 
          ECONOMIST LAWRENCE YUNG, THE NAR UM, ECONOMIST HAS PREDICTED THESE PEN UP BUYERS WILL START MAKING MOVES IN THE LAST QUARTER AND INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          THESE ARE DRE DISCRETIONARY BUYERS LOOKING FOR A SECOND HOME, MOST OF WHOM WANT OR AT LEAST EXPECT THE OPTION TO RENT THEIR PROPERTY UNTIL THEY MOVE HERE PERMANENTLY. 
          IF WE SHUT THAT DOOR NOW WITH A MORATORIUM OR EVEN TALKS OF A MORATORIUM AGAINST SHORT-TERM RENTALS, OUR POTENTIAL HOME BUYERS ARE GOING TO LOOK AND FIND ANOTHER RESORT COMMUNITY THAT WILL WELCOME THEM WITH OPEN ARMS. WE'RE NOT ONLY LOSING TODAY'S BUYERS, WE'RE LOSING TOMORROW'S FULL-TIME RESIDENCE. 
          THIS CAN LEAD TO A DOMINO EFFECT OF DECREASING MARKET VALUES THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          IF SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE RESTRICTED COMMUNITIES LIKE SEA PINES, PALMETTO DUNES, AND FOREST BEACH AREAS WHERE MANY OF BUYERS EXPECT TO GENERATE RENTAL INCOME, THOSE OWNERS WHO PURCHASE WITH SHORT-TERM RENTAL PLANS COULD SUDDENLY FIND THEMSELVES UNABLE TO RESELL AT THOSE VALUES. 
          THE BUYER POOL SHRINKS ONCE RENTAL POTENTIAL IS LIMITED AND THAT MARKET DECLINE WILL SPILL INTO ALL NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES, EVEN THOSE THAT DON'T ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          WE'VE SEEN THIS ELSEWHERE. 
          FOR INSTANCE, IN THE TOURISM MARKET IN SUMMIT COUNTY, COLORADO, THEY'VE EXP EXPERIENCED A SHARP DECLINE IN VALUES WHEN LIMITS WERE ENACTED. 
          A MORATORIUM HERE COULD TRIGGER THAT SAME EFFECT, AND THERE ARE OTHER AREAS AS WELL. 
          AND LET'S NOT OVERLOOK THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY TAX IMPACT. 
          SECOND HOMES ARE TAXED TWO TO THREE TIMES HIGHER THAN PRIMARY RESIDENCE DUE TO PROPERTY OWNERS BEING EX DUE TO RESIDENCE BEING EXEMPT FROM SCHOOL TAXES. 
          FOR INSTANCE, A PRIMARY HOMEOWNER 
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IN THE HILTON HEAD, PSD AREA, WHICH IS THE NORTH END, NOT SHORT TERM RENTALS, WITH A HOME ASSESSED AT $2 MILLION, THE PRIMARY RESIDENTS TAXES ARE $9,840. 
          WHILE THE SECOND HOME TAXES ARE 30,000, A DIFFERENCE OF $20,000. 
          THIS ADDED REVENUE PAYS FOR OUR SCHOOLS. 
          IF SECOND HOME BUYERS ARE DRIVEN AWAY, WHERE WILL THAT GAP BE BRIDGED? WILL PRIMARY RESIDENTS PAY FOR IT? THE REST, THE REST, I'VE GOT TO SAY PEOPLE HAVE TOUCHED ON, IT'S GONNA HELP AFFECT ALL OF OUR SHORT, OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. 
          IN SUMMARY, A MORATORIUM IS NOT A SOLUTION. 
          IT'S AN OVERREACH. 
          THAT RISK, DANGER, DAMAGING ECONOMY, SHRINKING OUR TAX BASE, CUTTING JOBS, WEAKENING PROPERTY VALUES, AND SHIFTING THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ONTO LOCAL FAMILIES. 
          SHORT-TERM FUND, SHORT-TERM RENTALS FUND OUR BEACHES, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR SERVICES. 
          THEY SUPPORT BUSINESSES AND JOBS. 
          THEY ARE OFTEN THE FIRST THING STEP FORWARD. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          LOLA CAMPBELL. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          SO MY NAME IS LOLA CAMPBELL. 
          UM, I DO WEAR MANY HATS IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT TODAY I AM HERE  AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND A MEMBER OF THE GULLAH COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO CONFIRM MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED MORATORIUM OF SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          I DO NOT THINK IT SHOULD BE INSTITUTED. 
          OUR BUSINESSES ON THIS ISLAND ACTUALLY SURVIVE OFF OF THE TOURISTS AND MANY OF THOSE TOURISTS, IF NOT ALL , STAY IN SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          SO INSTITUTING THAT WOULD REALLY HAVE A DIRECT NEGATIVE EFFECT ON US. 
          THERE'RE ALSO FAMILIES WHO ACTUALLY LIVE OFF THE INCOME OF THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ONE, UH, FOR SOME THAT MAY BE A SURE WAY TO ALSO PAY THEIR TAXES. 
          I DO, AS MR. LAVONNE STEVENS SPOKE ABOUT HALF A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN WARD. 
          ONE THAT DI THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AND MAYBE I WILL WANT TO DEVELOP THAT ONE DAY AND MAYBE I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL SO THAT I CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT LAND STAYS IN MY FAMILY FOR AS LONG AS IT CAN. 
          AND MAYBE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL MIGHT BE A SOLUTION TO THAT. 
          AND LET ME SAY DEVELOP RESPONSIBLY, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MENTION. 
          I THINK THAT WE NEED TO FIND A, OR DO I THINK WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION TO ANY NUISANCES THAT COME TO US BECAUSE OF SHORT TERM RENTALS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          BUT DO I THINK THAT THE MORATORIUM IS THE SOLUTION TO THAT? ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          WE AS YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE ELECTED YOU TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS EVEN WHEN THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO DO SO. 
          INSTITUTING A MORATORIUM, IN MY OPINION, IS THE FAST, EASY, AND SELFISH WAY OUT IT SEEMS. THERE HAS BEEN A LACK OF RESEARCH ON THE TRUE ECONOMIC IMPACT THIS WOULD HAVE ON THE ISLAND, AND I BELIEVE IT SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE DECISIONS. 
          YOU HAVE YOURS AND YOU ARE CONTENT. 
          SO WHO CARES ABOUT OTHERS TO COME OR THOSE WHO ARE HERE THAT WILL BE AFFECTED. 
          THAT'S THE ATTITUDE PRESENTED WITH THIS PROPOSED MORATORIUM. 
          FINDING A SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM MAY PROVE CHALLENGING, BUT THAT IS THE JOB YOU SIGNED UP FOR, FOR THE SEATS YOU SIT IN. 
          SO I ASKED YOU TO PLEASE WORK WITH ONE ANOTHER TO FIND A BETTER WAY. 
          I, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE. 
          THERE'S AN LMO THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT SEEMS LIKE IT COULD ACTUALLY GO TO SOME OF THESE ISSUES. 
          SO INSTEAD OF THE SIX MONTHS TO 12 YEARS TO DEAL WITH THE MORATORIUM, PUT THE RESOURCES INTO WORKING ON THAT LMO AND GETTING IT DONE, AND MAYBE WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE THAT THE SOLUTION IS THERE. 
          IN CLOSING, I DO HAVE FAITH THAT YOU ALL ARE CAPABLE OF DECIDING ON A SOLUTION THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS ISLAND AND OF ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          SO PLEASE DO SO. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU MARY AND MINNETTI. 
          MARY, I THINK MARY LEFT. 
          SHE LEFT. 
          OKAY. 
          MATTHEW DIAMOND. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS MATT DIAMOND. 
          I LIVE AT THREE SOUTH BEACH SAGOON IN SEA PINES. 
          MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN FULL-TIME RESIDENTS FOR MANY YEARS AND I'VE BEEN COMING TO HILTON NET FOR OVER 50. 
          I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS ISLAND. 
          YESTERDAY I CAME TO LISTEN. 
          I DIDN'T SPEAK BECAUSE I WANTED TO HEAR BOTH SIDES AND AWAY THE FACTS. 
          AFTER LISTENING CLOSELY REVIEWING THE VIDEO LATER, I, I FELT COMPELLED TO SPEAK TODAY. 
          COUNCILWOMAN, SORRY, AT THE START YESTERDAY, YOU MADE A POINT. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU ASKED EVERYONE TO STICK TO THE DATA AND FACTS AND AVOID HYPERBOLE. 
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EVERY SPEAKER WHO, WHO, WHO OPPOSED THE NEW REGULATIONS BROUGHT FORTH DATA YOUR OWN STUDY SHOWING COMPLAINT RATES WERE WELL UNDER 1%. 
          SEAN PRESENTED TODAY 7,000, 7,000 SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND ONLY 500 COMPLAINTS OVER A SEVEN MONTH PERIOD. 
          THAT IS A FRACTION OF 1%. 
          AND YOU HAD STATEMENTS FROM HO AO LEADERS, MR. ALFRED, ONE OF THOSE LEADERS WAS IN YOUR DISTRICT, UH, AT THE GREENWOOD FINDS FOREST. 
          IT SET ABOUT 70 RENTAL PROPERTIES AND ONLY ONE ISSUE. 
          I LIVE IN THE BEACH LAGOON AREA. 
          I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED OR SO SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND WE HAVE NO ISSUES. 
          I'M A FULL-TIME RESIDENT AND WE HAVE NO ISSUES. 
          TIME AND AGAIN, THE MESSAGE AND THE DATA WERE CONSISTENT. 
          THERE'S NO WIDESPREAD ENDEMIC PROBLEM WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON THIS ISLAND. 
          AND YET WHEN YOU ARGUE FOR MORE REGULATION, YOU, YOU DISMISSED YOUR OWN DATA. 
          INSTEAD. 
          YOU USED FACTS INSTEAD OF FACTS. 
          YOU STATED ANECDOTES, PERSONAL STORIES, AND SPECULATION. 
          THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED EVERYONE NOT TO DO. 
          I WAS SHOCKED. 
          I WAS SHOCKED. 
          I CAME INTO A WITH OPEN MIND. 
          I WAS SHOCKED MR. ALFRED, AGAIN, AS MY REPRESENTATIVE, I ASKED YOU NOT TO IGNORE THE FACTS AND THE H-A-H-O-A TESTIMONY SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T FIT OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE'S AGENDA. 
          THE REGULATIONS SUGGESTED YESTERDAY, FORGET MORATORIUMS. I FEEL LIKE THE MORATORIUM DISCUSSION IS DANGEROUS, BUT THE REGULATIONS ARE WHAT REALLY SCARE ME. 
          THEY'RE UNNECESSARY, THEY'RE EXTREME AND THEY WOULD CAUSE SERIOUS COLLATERAL DAMAGE TO OUR TAX REVENUE AND PROPERTY VALUES, MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS STAYS LIMITING TVS WITH AND WHERE THEY'RE PLACED. 
          AND THE ANECDOTAL STORY IN YOUR DISTRICT, I CAN TELL YOU AT LEAST ON MY STREET, THERE'S PROBABLY 20 THAT VIOLATE THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU SAW ON TV, BUT I DON'T WANT THIS COUNCIL TO BE THE POLICE TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WATCH ON TV. 
          THE, THE REALITY IS THIS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF VISITORS WHO COME HERE FOR FAMILY VACATIONS BECAUSE OF HOW WE ARE SET UP OR, OR BECAUSE OF HOW WE'RE SET UP TODAY, THE ANECDOTES ABOUT PEOPLE PARTYING FOR THREE DAYS WHERE THEY FIRST ARRIVE IS NOT SUPPORTED BY DATA AND IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE EXPERIENCE OF A VAST MAJORITY OF THIS ISLAND. 
          VISITORS COME HERE BECAUSE HILTON HEAD HAS BEAUTIFUL BEACHES, BIKE PATHS AND IS SAFE. 
          THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING. 
          WE'RE NOT A TOWN OVERRUN BY PARTY HOUSES. 
          BUT IF YOU WANT HILTON HEAD TO BECOME MYRTLE BEACH, WHICH WAS REFERENCED YESTERDAY, AND PASS REGULATIONS THAT REDUCE PROPERTY VALUES, SHRINK OUR TAX BASE AND LEAVE US WITH FEWER RESOURCES FOR SECURITIES BYPASS AND STORM RECOVERY. 
          ARE THERE BAD ACTORS? OF COURSE, BUT THEY ARE FEW AND THEY CAN BE DEALT WITH UNDER EXISTING RULES AND ENFORCEMENT. 
          IF AIRBNB ONLY RENTALS ARE HARDER TO MANAGE, REQUIRE LARGER. 
          LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THIS ISN'T ABOUT PRO THANK YOU MR. OR ANTI SHORT TERM RENTALS, MR. DRIVE. 
          ALRIGHT, FAIR ENOUGH. 
          WE'VE GOT A STRICT POLICY. 
          THANK YOU MORRIS CAMPBELL. 
          GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL TOWN MANAGER. 
          UM, MY NAME IS MORRIS CAMPBELL. 
          I GUEST, UH, OTHER THAN LOUISE COY, I'M PROBABLY THE LONGEST LIVING, UH, RESIDENT THAT THAT IS IN, IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. 
          I'M UPWARD OF 75. 
          SO CERTAINLY I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. 
          AND LEMME JUST SAY THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT NOT ONLY TIMESHARES AND UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS, BUT WHAT YOU ALL DISCUSSED EARLIER TONIGHT IS VERY APPROPRIATE AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE, UH, LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO LEAD US TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO. 
          I THINK WITH ALL OF THESE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH THE KIND OF MANAGERS COMMENT THAT, UM, A LOT OF WORK HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          AND, UH, COUNCILMAN BROWNER, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING MY REPRESENTATIVE. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN IN THIS RODEO FOR A LONG TIME. 
          IN EARLY 1980S, WE TRIED TO DO A MORATORIUM FROM THE COUNTY LEVEL FOR HILTON HEAD DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DATA, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE NEXUS TO TIE TO FOLKS BECAUSE IT ALWAYS HAS TO BE TIED TO HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE OF PEOPLE, THE VITALITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT DEPENDS ON DOING THINGS AND DOING THINGS IN A WAY THAT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO UTILIZE THEIR PROPERTY, NOT, UH, MINIMIZE OR NOT NEGATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR ALLOWING THEM TO, UH, JUST SUFFER BECAUSE OF IT. 
          I THINK THE REAL ESTATE, UH, INDUSTRY HERE, OF COURSE HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY VITAL PART OF OUR ECONOMY. 
          AND WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO ENCOURAGE OR ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE THEIR PROPERTY IN, IN A MANNER THAT WILL BENEFIT NOT ONLY PEOPLE, BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNITY. 
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WE HAVE A VERY GOOD COMMUNITY HERE ON HILTON HEAD. 
          AND, UM, IF WE GOING TO START DIVIDING OUR COMMUNITY AND FIGHTING ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS, THEN, UH, WHAT, UH, ALEX BROWN HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF DOING IS CERTAINLY GONNA BE A MESSAGE THAT'S GOING TO BE A WORLDWIDE MESSAGE THAT HILTON HAD IS CLOSED FOR BUSINESS. 
          'CAUSE NO ONE WOULD WANT TO COME WHERE WE ARE. 
          CONS, CONSISTENTLY FIGHTING, UH, DIVISIVE COMMUNITY OR DIVISIVE COUNTRY. 
          A DIVISIVE STATE IS NOT HEALTHY FOR US AS HUMAN BEINGS. 
          SO I JUST PLEAD THAT YOU DO WHAT IS RIGHT. 
          UH, DON'T PUT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE BECAUSE IT DOES NOTHING BUT, UH, MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN REALLY SUFFER YOU THE REST OF THE TIME. 
          THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          WE PRAY THAT WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE NEED TO, TO MAKE OUR ISLAND A BETTER PLACE. 
          THANK YOU MR. CAMPBELL. 
          ROBERT GUT, ROBERT GUTHRIE, I LETTER. 
          I FEEL GREAT THAT I'M BEING HONORED TODAY FOR SEEING YOUR DAY SENIOR MODEL . 
          MY NAME'S ROBERT GUTHRIE. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR, UH, SERVICE. 
          UM, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER. 
          I'M A GRANDPA. 
          UH, FATHER, I AM A REALTOR. 
          I ALSO OWN A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, SO I'M SCREWED ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? ? UH, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COME UP HERE AND SAID, OH, YOU'RE GONNA DO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT THE CASE IS THAT IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE EVEN STANDING HERE TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT RUNS CHILLS THROUGH PEOPLE'S SPINES. 
          AND WHEN WE SEE THE DATA THAT'S BROUGHT UP IN THE PROPOSAL, IT'S NOT ACCURATE. 
          SO DO THE RESEARCH AND FIX THE PROBLEM. 
          DON'T PUT THE BRAKES ON AND STOP EVERYTHING AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA REVISIT EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. 
          I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT PLACE. 
          I HAVE MOVED MY DAUGHTER HERE. 
          I HAVE MOVED MY SON HERE ALL WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SO BLAME ME FOR THE POPULATION GROWTH. 
          AND I HAVE A GRANDSON WHO WAS BORN HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S A NATIVE ISLANDER, BUT YOU KNOW, HE'S, HE'S, HE'S A FIRST TIMER FOR US. 
          UH, SO I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA DWELL ON A LOT OF STUFF, BUT I JUST THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE'RE EVEN HAVING A CONVERSATION HAS A CHILLING EFFECT ON REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT. 
          PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF I DO WANNA SELL. 
          UH, EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY HAS BENEFITED FROM RISING REAL ESTATE PRICES. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST HILTON HEAD. 
          WHEN YOU SEE THE PRICES WENT UP 75% HERE SINCE 2 20 20, THEY WENT UP EVERYWHERE THAT MUCH. 
          TRY BUYING A HOME ANYWHERE. 
          UM, SO LET'S, LET'S BE REASONABLE. 
          LET'S THINK THIS THROUGH. 
          LET'S DO OUR RESEARCH. 
          I GUARANTEE YOU THERE WERE MORE THAN 3000 RENTALS HERE IN 2020. 
          UH, YOU CAN GO ON GOOGLE RIGHT NOW AND AI WILL TELL YOU THAT HILTON HEAD TOWN OFFICIALS SAID THERE WERE 7,800 IN 2020. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING PEOPLE OUT. 
          UH, IN 1969, PRESIDENT NIXON PUT A MORATORIUM ON SENDING TROOPS TO VIETNAM. 
          MY BROTHER WAS IN BOOTCAMP AT THAT TIME. 
          THAT MORATORIUM WAS A GOOD THING. 
          HE DIDN'T GO TO VIETNAM MORATORIUM ON REAL ESTATE. 
          BAD THING. 
          , THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CHILDREN HERE TO, TO HAVE KIDS. 
          THAT'S PERFECT. 
          THAT, THAT HELPS BRING OUR AGE DOWN. 
           SALLY. 
          ZIKA. 
          SALLY, YES. 
          HI. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MY NAME IS SALLY ZUNIGA. 
          WE OWN THREE BUSINESSES IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND TWO ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES IN JASPER COUNTY. 
          I HAVE LIVED HERE HALF MY LIFE. 
          WE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN, ONE IN COLLEGE, ONE IN HIGH SCHOOL, ONE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND ONE IN PRESCHOOL. 
          I AM ON THE ARTS COUNCIL, UM, REGULARLY CONTRIBUTE TO OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS AND MANY OTHER LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. 
          I SAY THIS ONLY TO POINT OUT THAT ALEX BROWN'S EXCELLENT OPINION PIECE HAS GARNERED MY UNDIVIDED ATTENTION BECAUSE YOUR UPCOMING DECISIONS COULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT MY FAMILY AND SO MANY OTHER ISLAND FAMILIES. 
          AS A MOTHER OF FOUR, RAISING OUR CHILDREN HERE ON HILLHEAD, I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          I WANT OUR ISLAND KIDS TO GROW UP IN A PLACE THAT VALUES FAMILIES, CULTURE, DIVERSITY AND OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I SEE FIRSTHAND HOW IMPORTANT VISITORS CONTRIBUTE TO ALL OF THESE VALUES. 
          THAT'S WHY I AM STRONGLY AGAINST PROPOSED EXCESSIVELY STRICT SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS, UM, , WHICH ESSENTIALLY 
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WILL NOT ALLOW OPERATION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS EMOTIONALLY. 
          THIS STRIKES AT THE HEART OF WHAT HILTON HU ISLAND STANDS FOR. 
          FAMILIES LIKE MINE HAVE BUILT BUSINESSES THAT RELY ON THE STEADY FLOW OF VISITORS WHO CHOOSE TO STAY IN THESE HOMES. 
          WITHOUT THEM, RESTAURANTS LIKE MINE, ALONG WITH COUNTLESS OTHER BUSINESSES WILL BE, WILL BE PUT AT RISK. 
          THE TRUTH IS SIMPLE TOURISM, THOUGH IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND VISITORS STAYING IN SHORT TERM RENTALS, SHOP IN OUR STORES, EAT IN OUR RESTAURANTS, AND SUPPORT OUR LOCAL JOBS AND FAMILIES. 
          EXCESSIVE REGULATIONS DOESN'T JUST HURT PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          IT HURTS WORKERS, FAMILIES, AND SMALL BUSINESSES ACROSS THE ISLAND. 
          WE NEED BALANCED SOLUTIONS THAT PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE STILL SUPPORTING THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY THAT KEEPS HILTON HEAD ISLAND THRIVING. 
          A BAN IS NOT BA IS NOT A BALANCE. 
          IT'S A BLOW TO THE VERY PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK HERE YEAR ROUND. 
          AS BOTH A MOTHER AND A BUSINESS OWNER, I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE REAL IMPACT THIS DECISION WOULD HAVE ON FAMILIES LIKE MINE AND ON THE COMMUNITY WE ALL LOVE. 
          SO, ALTHOUGH MY KIDS MISS SOCCER TONIGHT, SO I COULD VOICE MY OPINION HERE, I NEED TO GET HOME SO THEY DON'T MISS DINNER. 
          THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU STEVE BIRDWELL. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, MY NAME IS STEVE BIRDWELL. 
          I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE SEA PINES RESORT. 
          VACATION RENTALS HAVE BEEN A FAMILY TRADITION SINCE THE FOUNDING OF SEA PINES MORE THAN 65 YEARS AGO. 
          TODAY, A VAST MAJORITY OF OUR VISITORS TRAVELING TO HILTON ISLAND STATE IN SHORT TERM RENTAL, THE VISITORS STAYING IN THE SHORT TERM RENTALS SUPPORT NEARLY EVERY BUSINESS ON THIS ISLAND PROVIDE THOUSANDS OF JOBS TO AREA RESIDENTS. 
          RENTAL REVENUE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS AND RENTAL ACTIVITY HELPS SUPPORT THE PROPERTY VALUES THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND. 
          RECENT DISCUSSIONS OF A POSSIBLE MORATORIUM ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAS SENT A VERY NEGATIVE MESSAGE TO PAST AND FUTURE GUESTS. 
          THEY'VE ALSO SENT, IT'S ALSO SENT A VERY NEGATIVE MESSAGE TO PROSPECTIVE REAL ESTATE BUYERS AND GUESTS ARE WONDERING IF THEY'RE WONDER IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UH, WELCOMED IN THE FUTURE TO OUR ISLAND. 
          A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM WILL GREATLY IMPACT MANY ISLANDERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, ISLAND WORKFORCE, BUSINESS OWNERS, RETAIL STORES, RESTAURANTS, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, THEY'LL ALL BE IN IMPACTED. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE TOWN ADOPTED A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE THREE YEARS AGO. 
          THE ORDINANCE HAS SERVED THE COMMUNITY WELL. 
          WE'RE AWARE, WE'RE AWARE OF CERTAIN COMPLAINTS REGARDING NOISE AND PARKING. 
          WE COULD REVISIT THE ORDINANCE AND ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, BUT MORATORIUM IS NOT NEEDED. 
          WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO NOT IMPLEMENT A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SUSAN WHEATLEY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US ALL THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. 
          I ACTUALLY, UM, MOVED HERE IN 2018. 
          SO THAT MEANS, EVEN THOUGH I'M A TRUE GRIT A GIRL RAISED IN THE SOUTH, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE IN THIS PART OF THE, THE, UH, SOUTH SEVEN YEARS AND I'VE LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT. 
          I SURE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU. 
          I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW OF EACH ONE OF YOU IN A VERY INDIVIDUAL WAY AND CHERISH THAT GREATLY. 
          FOR MANY OF YOU, I VOTED FOR YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO. 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID, I LIVE IN A NEWER NEIGHBORHOOD ON MITCHELLVILLE ROAD. 
          IT'S A TRADITIONAL GULLAH NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SOME OF YOU MIGHT THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE OF A AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, I VERY MUCH TREASURE IT. 
          I SHARE, UM, THE FACT THAT MOST OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M PROBABLY IN THE MOST DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE ISLAND. 
          I LOVE MY NATIVE ISLANDER NEIGHBORS AND I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR THE TRADITIONS AND THE SACRIFICES THAT THEIR ANCESTORS GAVE SO THAT ALL OF US COULD BE HERE AND BE HERE AND EXPERIENCE WHAT WE DO TODAY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT PAST DECISIONS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS OR COUNCILS BEFORE, YOU MAY HAVE MADE SOME BAD DECISIONS THAT WE END UP ENDURING TODAY. 
          SOME OF US, AS WE DRIVE OUT OF OUR HOME, EVERYWHERE WE GO, WE SEE THEM RIGHT THERE IN OUR FACE AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM. 
          WE'RE ALL A FAMILY. 
          IN FACT, WHAT I'VE LEARNED FROM MY NATIVE ISLANDER FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE THAT IN YOUR TRADITION, MR. BROWN, I THINK IF I'M RIGHT, EVERYBODY COMES AS FRIENDS, BUT YOU LEAVE HIS FAMILY. 
          IN FAMILY. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE BIG SISTERS THAT TWIST 
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THINGS TO TELL THE STORY. 
          WE HAVE OTHERS THAT SIT BACK AND LISTEN. 
          WE HAVE OTHERS THAT STAND UP AND RAISE THEIR HAND AND THEN MAYBE SIT BACK AND LISTEN AGAIN AND MAKE A DIFFERENT DECISION. 
          THE MORATORIUM IS NOT IS FEARMONGERING. 
          WE AS A NATION HAVE EXPERIENCED SOME DIVISION, SOME RESULTS OF SOME TERRIBLE FEARMONGERING. 
          LET US NOT BE PART OF THAT. 
          LET US BE THE LIGHT. 
          AND WHAT I PRAY AND ASK EACH ONE OF YOU FOR IS TO HAVE EYES, TO SEE, EARS TO HEAR A MIND TO DISCERN AND A HEART TO FEEL SO THAT OUR WHOLE FAMILY AND FAMILIES HERE TO COME VISIT AND FAMILIES, OUR FAMILY AS THEY GROW OLDER, CAN EXPERIENCE THE GREATNESS THAT WE CALL HILTON HEAD. 
          PLEASE, PLEASE THINK AND BE LED TO VOTE NO AGAINST THIS MORATORIUM. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU TODD BROOKS. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          TODD BROOKS, UM, M HEALTH FORCE BEACH. 
          THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. 
          WONDERFUL JOB. 
          AND IT'S, AND IT WAS THANKLESS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD ALL MY STUFF TO, TO WRITE DOWN, BUT EVERYONE'S KIND OF SAYING THERE'S A COMMON THREAD HERE THAT THERE'S A PLACE FOR MORATORIUMS, BUT THIS IS THE NET. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A BAD THING. 
          IT SERVES ITS PURPOSE, BUT IT'S SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY, TO OUR GUESTS, TO POTENTIAL BUYERS. 
          IT'S, IT'S A NEGATIVE MESSAGE. 
          UM, AND SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE A GOOD THING. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY SINCE DAY ONE. 
          AND, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE PROPERLY. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THE START, WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMITS AND ESTABLISHING GUIDELINES FOR PEOPLE VISITING. 
          I OWN AN ISLAND GETAWAY RENTALS, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE GUESTS FOLLOW AND, AND LIVE COHESIVELY WITH THE, THE RESIDENTS. 
          THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM IN SEA PINES OR PALM DUNES. 
          THE GATED COMMUNITIES, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR FOREVER. 
          AND I'VE SEEN IT IN THE CLOSE TO 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, THE CHANGES IN THE HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, ADAPT TO WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYOR PERRY SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T CUT YOUR LEG OFF. 
          YOU ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE STARTED TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS. BEING ABLE TO WRITE CITATIONS, YOU KNOW, DOES IT MEAN HAVING A, SOMETHING THAT CAN DRIVE AROUND AND KNOCK ON DOORS? I MEAN, PEOPLE, I, I NOTICE THERE'S A, PEOPLE ARE MORE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF C UH, THE GATED, UH, COMMUNITIES. 
          AND THEY ARE, I LIVE IN SOUTH FORCE BEACH, SO I SEE WHAT GOES ON. 
          WE GOTTA HOLD 'EM TO A HIGHER STANDARD. 
          I MEAN, OUR COMPANY REALLY SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE GUESTS HOW TO BEHAVE AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM BEING ON THE ISLAND. 
          YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE ARE THE SECOND HOMEOWNERS. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PAYING, THEY'RE GOING TO OUR CHARITY EVENTS OR, YOU KNOW, FUNDING DIFFERENT PROJECTS. 
          THEY'RE VOLUNTEERING. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING OUR COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE. 
          AND THIS IS ALL DRIVEN BY MONEY THAT WE GET FROM SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO TABLE HOLD, MORATORIUM TALK. 
          YEAH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. 
          SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          WE GOTTA PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. 
          'CAUSE SHORT TERM RENTALS AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE ON THIS ISLAND. 
          I, I, I'VE BEEN HERE LONG KNOW THAT. 
          I MEAN, BACK IN 2001 WITH MIGUEL CASTILLO, PEOPLE REMEMBER THAT. 
          THAT WAS CRAZY. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE. 
          WE'VE DONE SO MUCH GOOD TO GET WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          LET'S KEEP GOING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU TOM REED. 
          WELL, IT'S EVENING NOW. 
          GOOD EVENING,  COUNSEL. 
          UH, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          UM, MY NAME'S TOM REED. 
          I'M, I'M, UH, AN OWNER, UH, BROKER IN CHARGE AND THE PRESIDENT OF CHARTER ONE REALTY. 
          AND I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE OTHER OWNERS OF CHARTER ONE AND OUR AGENTS. 
          UM, WE ARE, UH, OPPOSED TO ANY MORATORIUM OR RESTRICTION ON SHORT TERM RENTALS BEYOND WHAT ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMUNITY OR VILLA REGIME IMPOSES ON 
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UPON ITSELF. 
          MORATORIUM SHOULD BE AN OPTION OF LAST RESORT BECAUSE IT EITHER STOPS OR SEVERELY IMPAIRS WHATEVER IT IS APPLIED TO ON HILTON HEAD. 
          WE HAVE ONE INDUSTRY AND THAT'S TOURISM, THAT'S OUR GOLDEN GOOSE. 
          AS, AS BUSINESS OWNERS, WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO HARM THE GOLDEN GOOSE. 
          EVERY ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THIS COMMUNITY IS A DIRECT DERIVATIVE OF THE TOURISM INDUSTRY, AND THAT INCLUDES REAL ESTATE BECAUSE THE SUGGESTED MORATORIUM STRIKES AT THE VERY HEART OF WHAT DRIVES OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. 
          EVEN, EVEN GREATER CARE, DILIGENCE AND DISCERNMENT SHOULD BE APPLIED TO ANY CONSIDERED DEPLOYMENT OF A MORATORIUM OR THE, OR THE FUTURE RESTRICTION THAT MIGHT NEGATIVELY IMPACT TOURISM TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, ON, IN, IN YOUR MEMORANDUM, YOU LIST FIVE IMPACTS OF THE PAST FIVE YEARS TO JUSTIFY ACTION. 
          UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS 11% INCREASE IN THE AVERAGE DAILY TRACK TRAFFIC. 
          I WOULD ARGUE THAT MOST, MOST OF THIS IS DUE TO A A A 3.15% INCREASE IN FULL-TIME RESIDENTS OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. 
          MOST TOURISM IS SEASONAL. 
          UH, UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE HEARD FROM ANOTHER SPEAKER, ANOTHER PRESENTER EARLIER, UH, TODAY THAT ACTUALLY OCCUPANCY RATES ARE DOWN. 
          UH, SO, UH, UH, SO THE SECOND THING, UH, LISTED WAS 133% INCREASE IN ESTIMATED, UH, SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          THAT NUMBER SEEMS WRONG. 
          UH, THE ACTUAL GROWTH RATE OF 6% OWNERS ON THE ISLAND, USING YOUR STATISTICS WAS 1.3900000000000001% OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S A HUGE DISCREPANCY. 
          1.3900000000000001% VERSUS 133% INCREASE. 
          UH, UM, SO, UH, NOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE METRICS USED FOR THE 133% WAS, BUT, UH, BUT SOMEHOW THERE'S, THERE'S A DISCREPANCY WITH THE DATA. 
          UH, WE, WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT PRICES HAVE GONE UP ON THE ISLAND. 
          UH, 4% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF NEW DWELLINGS. 
          AGAIN, ACCORDING TO THE FIRST TABLE ON PAGE THREE, IF YOU DO THE MATH, IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, AN ANNUALIZED RATE OF 0.4%. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG THERE. 
          ANYWAY, ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MR. REED. 
          THANK YOU, POLICE LAMARCA. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UH, FELICE LAMARCA. 
          I LIVE IN SEA PINES AND I HAVE FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND I HAVE BEEN A REALTOR FOR ALMOST THAT LONG AS WELL. 
          I'M NOT HERE TO TALK TO YOU AS AN ASSOCIATION OF REALTOR MEMBER. 
          I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU AS ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS. 
          EVERYTHING THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, FOR THE MOST PART IS ACCURATE, IS CORRECT. 
          THERE IS TOO MUCH CHICKEN. 
          LITTLE IN THE SKY IS FALLING. 
          I DON'T THINK OUR VALUES ARE GONNA GO DOWN. 
          AND WE KNOW OUR TOURISTS ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY UNLESS THEY FIND SOMEPLACE CHEAPER TO GO. 
          THAT'S WHAT DRIVES EVERYONE THE ECONOMY. 
          IF BUYER INTEREST IS COOLED, IT'S THE ECONOMY THAT'S COOLED IT, NOT THE THREAT OF US DOING A MORATORIUM. 
          PERHAPS WE SHOULD FIND A DIFFERENT WORD SINCE THAT IS A DIRTY WORD. 
          MAYBE WE NEED A REST FOR SIX WEEKS. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          MAYBE WE NEED SPRING BREAK. 
          MAYBE WE NEED SOMETHING TO SAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE NOT ONE PERSON HAS MENTIONED WHAT'S DRIVING US OUT. 
          WHERE I LIVE, I'VE WATCHED NEIGHBOR, AFTER NEIGHBOR, AFTER NEIGHBOR LEAVE THE STREET IS FULL OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          THIS ISN'T ABOUT, THERE ARE NOISE. 
          THEY'RE COMING AND GOING. 
          THEY'RE FINE. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR BECAUSE IT'S USUALLY JUST A FEW OF THEM. 
          IT'S ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          YOU, YOU'VE USED THE WORDS COMMUNITY A LOT TONIGHT, BUT HAS ANYONE REALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS? I WATCHED 
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THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CHAMBER AND EVERYTHING LOOKED BEAUTIFUL. 
          I DIDN'T SEE ANY PUBLICATION THAT SAID HILTON HEAD IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. 
          WHY IS THAT? IT IS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. 
          I HAVE LOVED BEING HERE PERMANENTLY FOR 30 YEARS, AND I PERSONALLY TAKE OFFENSE TO SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S MY MONEY, IT'S MY JOB, MY FRIENDS AND MY FAMILY TOO. 
          I HAVE PREACHED QUALITY OVER QUANTITY FOR 25 YEARS AND I STILL BELIEVE, THANK YOU, QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. 
          LINDA HARRINGTON, LINDA HARRINGTON, INDIGO ROOM. 
          I SAT AND LISTENED TO EVERYONE. 
          WHAT I TAKE AWAY MOST, AND THIS IS OFF SCRIPT, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FEAR MONGERING. 
          I HAVE BEEN IN A TOWN, WE DID A MORATORIUM FOR THREE MONTHS AND IT WAS THE SMARTEST THING WE EVER DID BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE A PAUSE. 
          WE DIDN'T STOP PEOPLE FROM TURNING OVER THEIR PROPERTY. 
          WE DIDN'T PREVENT ANY RENTALS AT ALL. 
          AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          NOT ONE PERSON HAS MENTIONED LIMITING SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN REFERENCE TO THIS MORATORIUM. 
          WHAT WE'VE SAID IS WE ARE SEEING NEIGHBORHOODS DESTROYED. 
          YOU TAKE A RIDE DOWN JONESVILLE, YOU LOOK AT THOSE HOUSES, THERE IS NOT ONE BIT OF RESTRICTION ON WHETHER THOSE CAN BE SHORT TERM OR NOT. 
          AND IF YOU WORRY ABOUT SALES ON THIS ISLAND, AS SOON AS THE FED OPENS THEIR EYES AND LOWERS THE RATES, YOUR SALES PROBLEMS ARE OVER. 
          YOU COULD SHAKE YOUR HEAD, BUT I'M AN ACCOUNTANT. 
          YOUR SALES PROBLEMS ARE OVER. 
          THIS IS NOT PREVENTING ANYTHING IN THIS TOWN FROM HAPPENING. 
          ALL IT'S DOING IS SAYING, LET'S USE OUR HEADS. 
          THIS LMO ISSUE I WAS TOLD THREE YEARS AGO, WE'RE WORKING ON AN LMO, THREE YEARS IS EGREGIOUS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU WERE PAYING, BUT YOU WERE PAYING THEM ALL A DOLLAR TOO MUCH BECAUSE THAT LMO SHOULD BE IN PLACE. 
          WE SHOULDN'T BE DICKERING OVER THAT. 
          NOW, AND AS FAR AS MR. BROWN'S, WHAT I CALL UGLY FEAR MONGERING EMAIL THAT YOU SENT AROUND HILTON HAD ISN'T CLOSED. 
          IT'S NEVER BEEN CLOSED. 
          THE GOOD FOR ME, NOT GOOD FOR THEE. 
          I GOT MINE NOW. 
          YOU CAN'T HAVE YOURS. 
          WELL, YOU'VE BEEN THE ONE TALKING ABOUT FAMILY COMPOUNDS. 
          FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN AN LMO. 
          WE CAN'T HAVE ANY CLASS HERE WHO HAS NO RESTRICTIONS. 
          AND I, I'M JUST, I HAVE A LOT MORE. 
          BUT THE FEAR MONGERING WAS THE THING THAT GOT ME THE MOST. 
          IF YOU'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT, YOU'VE NEVER HAD A REASON TO ENACT IT. 
          DON'T PUT IT DOWN UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LARRY GIBBONS. 
          HE ALREADY SPOKE. 
          MATT LEWIS, MATT LEWIS, CHRISTOPHER CLIFF, UH, CHRISTOPHER CLIFF. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE 29TH OF MARCH, 2001. 
          UH, HOWEVER, UM, IN A LIC EMAIL I RECEIVED THIS WEEK, UM, I REALIZE I'M CLASSIFIED AS A NEWBIE THAT I SHALL NEITHER BE SEEN NOR HEARD, UNLESS OF COURSE YOU SPEND IN ONE OF MY SHOPS OR MY RESTAURANTS. 
          OKAY, HAVEN'T GOT THAT OFF MY CHEST. 
          UM, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA I'VE SEEN TONIGHT, I AGREE WITH DREW BROWN. 
          ACTUALLY, IT'S INACCURATE. 
          UH, YOU NEED TO LOOK AGAIN AT THE TRAVEL DATA, THE TRAFFIC DATA. 
          I GOT TRAFFIC DATA FROM THE 1ST OF JANUARY, 2018, COMING ONTO THE ISLAND, COMING ON ACROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. 
          AND WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT IS INACCURATE. 
          UH, ALSO, IF MY MEMORY SERVE YOU RIGHT, THE CENSUS OF 2020 SAID THE POPULATION RESIDENT WAS 39,700. 
          THE TOWN STRATEGIC PLAN IS WORKING THE CURRENT ONE OF 37,700. 
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THAT'S A REDUCTION IN RESIDENCE, NOT AN INCREASE. 
          I LIVE IN SEA PINES. 
          AND WHEN WE, WE BOUGHT IN SEA PINES, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENT PROPERTY OWNERS WERE OVER 70% OF THE PROPERTY. 
          IT'S NOW SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 20 AND 25%, WHICH WILL BE, UH, TESTED TO BY THE FORMER CHAIRMAN OF BEAUFORT COUNTY. 
          ALSO, I'VE HEARD IN THIS CHAMBER, CHARLES FRASER REFERRED TO MANY, MANY TIMES AS, AS A, A PIONEER AND, AND, AND TRULY GREAT MAN. 
          BUT WHAT IS NEVER MENTIONED IN 1992, WHICH I THINK IS THE YEAR IN WHICH STEVE BIRDWELL CAME TO THE ISLAND, HE WROTE A, UH, A MEMORANDUM TO THE TOWN TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD, WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COPE WITH THE GROWTH OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          HOW RIGHT. 
          HE WAS, HE WASN'T AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, HE JUST SAID HE NEEDED TO BE MORE INTELLIGENT ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY, SO WHAT HAVE WE GOT? WE'VE GOT A SITUATION WHEREBY THERE IS APPARENTLY NO GROWTH IN TOURISM. 
          THERE'S A DECLINING, UH, RESIDENTIAL POPULATION, UH, BUT THE COST OF LIVING ON THE ISLAND IS INCREASING PHENOMENALLY. 
          AND THE COUNCILS IS SPENDING LIKE, IT'S GOT BOTTOMLESS PIT, UM, A MORATORIUM. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A MORATORIUM IS ACTUALLY, AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION. 
          I, FOR ONE, NOT BECAUSE I'M IN FAVOR OF A MORATORIUM, BUT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE PETITION WOULD ACTUALLY BE PA BE PART, THE REASON WHY THIS SUBJECT IS OUT IN THE OPEN. 
          AND THEN WE CAN ALL DISCUSS IT AS ADULTS AND ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A, A WAY FORWARD, NOT A MORATORIUM. 
          I DON'T ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS. 
          ANYWAY, YOU NEED TO GET YOUR DATA SORTED OUT BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT, YOU ARE IN DANGER OF TAKING DECISIONS ON, UH, FALSE, UH, FALSE DATA, ACTUALLY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOUR, YOUR EMAIL WAS, UM, UH, RATHER DISTASTEFUL ACTUALLY. 
          THANK YOU BETH PETRO. 
          IT'S NOT GOOD EVENING ANYMORE. 
          IT'S NOW GOOD NIGHT . 
          UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. 
          I THINK THE FACT THAT WE ARE STILL HERE IS, UH, IT SHOWS HOW MUCH THIS DISCUSSION WAS NEEDED TO HAVE, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, UH, THE TASK IN FRONT OF ALL OF YOU IS EXTREMELY DAUNTING, AND THAT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED FOR THE CITIZENS ON THE ISLAND. 
          UM, I ALSO WANNA THANK MR. ORLANDO FOR GOING OVER THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE LMO ELEMENTS HAVE BEEN TACKLED AS MUCH AS WE'VE BEEN SAYING, MYSELF INCLUDED, THAT WE NEED TO QUICKLY HURRY UP AND GET THIS LMO. 
          LMO DONE WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND IT HAS GONE NOTICED. 
          IT IS A LONG PROCESS, BUT I URGE YOU THE WORD MORATORIUM IS JARRING AS I'VE SAID IT, I THINK PROBABLY FOUR TIMES NOW SINCE IT'S COME UP. 
          BUT IN THE, A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM YOU MENTIONED AND OR YOU'VE PASSED, FORMING A TASK FORCE, TAKE THAT TASK FORCE, USE THAT TASK FORCE. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DRAFT OF THE LMO BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          SHOULD A MORATORIUM COME INTO THIS DISCUSSION? WHERE DOES THAT PUT THE TIMELINE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE? UH, I URGE YOU TO USE THE TOOLS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. 
          THE, I HAD THIS ALL WRITTEN DOWN, UM, , BUT I URGE YOU TO USE ALL THE TOOLS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. 
          CONTINUE TO USE THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE AS IT'S BEEN DRAFTED. 
          CONTINUE TO ENFORCE WITH COMPLIANCE AND REGULATION, WHICH I DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A REASONABLE REGULATIONS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          AND I SAY THAT AS A PROPERTY MANAGER OF SHORT TERM RENTALS AND AN ISLAND RESIDENT OF OVER 35 YEARS TO DISSECT THE DATA THAT WE HAVE. 
          I THINK WE'VE ALL AD NAUSEUM SAID THAT THE DATA IS INCORRECT. 
          THERE'S DEFINITELY ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME INACCURACIES IN DATA, BUT HOW DO WE GET AS FAR AS THE COMPLAINTS, WHICH WERE BROUGHT UP, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO GET THE DATA FROM THE PUDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE IN LINE AND WE ARE ALL, ALL HAVING THE SAME ARGUMENT OR THE SAME DISCUSSION OVER WHAT THAT THAT DATA IS USE THAT TASK FORCE AS WELL. 
          THE LMO IS GOING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PIECES OF THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE IN IT. 
          THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON OF REWRITING THE LMO. 
          IT'S ALL GOING TO COME TOGETHER, SO PLEASE USE THAT. 
          AND THE OTHER TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE AS OUR DMO STATED RECENTLY, OUR MOST HIGHEST RENTAL PERIOD TIME OF THE YEAR HAS JUST PASSED. 
          AND THE STR RENTALS WERE DOWN. 
          THAT IS ALL SIGNS THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, ALBEIT SLOW. 
          I AM DEFINITELY NOT SITTING HERE AND SAYING THAT IT'S NOT TAKING FOREVER. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          BUT A MORATORIUM, ALL I CAN SEE IS THAT THAT IS GOING TO SLOW THE PROCESS DOWN THAT MUCH FURTHER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, DANA. 
          ADVOCATE. 
          I THINK THEY LEFT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS THE LAST FORM I HAVE ON THIS TOPIC. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR YOU, SO LET'S BRING IT BACK TO COUNSEL. 
          WAIT, MR. STANFORD WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. 
          OKAY. 
          I SUBMITTED THE PROPER APPLICATION, BUT I HIT THE WRONG BUTTON. 
          , WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. 
          THAT HAPPENS. 
          THAT HAPPENS WITH OLD AGE. 
          THEY TELL ME. 
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THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. 
          THIS HAS BEEN ENLIGHTENING AND EXHAUSTING AND SOMEWHAT TERRIFYING IN THE PAST. 
          WHILE ON COUNCIL, I SUGGESTED A MORATORIUM, BUT ON FURTHER THOUGHT, I NOW OPPOSE SUCH ACTION. 
          I'M HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY. 
          SO, AS I UNDERSTAND A MORATORIUM, IT'S A TEMPORARY PAUSE OF CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A TOWN OR OTHER GOVERNMENT. 
          IT'S LEGAL IF CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ARE MET, IT MUST BE TEMPORARY AND SPECIFIC. 
          WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? FIRST, SOUTH CAROLINA IS PROUD OF BEING A PROPERTY RIGHTS STATE. 
          THIS MEANS THAT THE OWNER OF LAND HAS THE RIGHT TO USE THE LAND AS HE OR SHE WISHES PROVIDED. 
          IT DOESN'T VIOLATE SOME OTHER PROVISION OF LAW OR CAU CAUSE HARM TO OTHERS. 
          THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST SHORT TERM RENTALS. 
          THERE'S NO LAW AGAINST TIMESHARES. 
          BOTH ARE PERMITTED, USES THE TIME TO PROHIBIT TIMESHARE AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS HAS LONG SINCE PASSED. 
          WE NOW HAVE MORE THAN 6,000 SHORT-TERM RENTALS. 
          CLEARLY TIMESHARES AND ESPECIALLY SDRS HAVE CHANGED THE CHARACTER OF MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND MUCH OF THE ISLAND. 
          BUT THOSE CHANGES CANNOT BE REVERSED, BUT THEY CAN BE REGULATED TO ATTEMPT TO BAN ON THE USE OF LAND AS A TIMESHARE OR STR WOULD BE A GOVERNMENTAL TAKING, WHICH IS ILLEGAL WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION. 
          THE TOWN WILL NOT TAKE SUCH AN ACTION. 
          THE TOWN HAS THE POWER TO CONTROL TIMESHARES UNDER THE LMO AS IT AND THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED THREE YEARS AGO. 
          AND IT CURRENTLY, AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN, FURTHER CONTROL OF TIMESHARES AND FUTURE AMENDMENTS TO THE LMO CAN BE UNDERTAKEN BY THE COUNCIL. 
          IN THE CASE OF STR, THE TOWN NOW HAS THE POWER TO REGULATE THOSE STR UNDER THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE ALREADY ATTEMPTED. 
          EXCUSE ME, I'M REPEATING MYSELF THERE. 
          THIS MEANS THE STR MUST HAVE A LICENSE. 
          THE ORDINANCE HAS REGULATIONS DEALING WITH PAR PARKING, NOISE, ET CETERA. 
          I AM REALLY STRUCK BY THE LOW NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE HAD FROM HSTR SINCE THEY'VE BEEN REGULATED. 
          THAT'S AMAZING. 
          ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS TO OPPOSE A MORATORIUM IS THE ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT COULD BE FELT BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          WE KNOW OUR MAJOR BUSINESS ON THIS ISLAND IS TOURISM. 
          A MORATORIUM WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY HARM TOURISM, AND THAT HARM IS UNNECESSARY. 
          I'M SAYING THAT THE TOWN HAS THE POWER TO REGULATE. 
          NOW IS THE TIME, MAYBE TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF, OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND TO OTHERWISE REGULATE TIMESHARES WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE LAW. 
          THE TOWN CAN NOW DO USE THOSE CONTROLS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF FUTURE MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS. 
          AND WITH THAT, I WILL SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY HOURS OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCIL. 
          MAYOR, I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION, UM, ABOUT, UM, THE, UH, PROPOSAL FOR STR REGULATIONS THAT CAME BEFORE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE YESTERDAY. 
          AND I'M LOOKING AT THE TOWN MANAGER AND SAYING, PLEASE, PLEASE BE REALISTIC ON THE TIMING. 
          UM, BASED UPON THE PRODUCTIVE COMMENTS YESTERDAY DURING THE COMMITTEE MEETING, WHEN WILL STAFF HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE TO COME BACK BEFORE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE? I KNOW THERE'S A SPECIAL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 6TH AND I THINK A REGULAR MEETING ON OCTOBER 20TH. 
          AND I'VE HEARD THE CHAIR SAY SHE'S WILLING TO SCHEDULE OTHER MEETINGS, BUT REALISTICALLY, WHEN CAN STAFF PREPARE A DRAFT AND BRING IT BACK TO THAT COMMITTEE? REALISTICALLY, PLEASE? ARE YOU ABLE TO ANSWER THAT NOW? YEAH. 
          SHOT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT ME. 
          UM, YEAH,  NOT, I'M NOT LOOKING OUT. 
          I'M NOT MAKING EYE CONTACT YOU OUT. 
          UM, MS. BRYSON, WE, WE NEED A, A COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          ONE, ONE THING THAT I'M, I'M GOING TO DO JUST FROM A, A PROCESS STANDPOINT, SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M UP TO, BASED UPON ALL OF YOUR GOOD FEEDBACK, GREAT FEEDBACK YESTERDAY, I'M JUST GOING TO, YOU KNOW, GO BACK TO BASICS AND PUT THIS ON A WHITEBOARD OUTSIDE OF MY OFFICE AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M HEARING YOU. 
          ONE. 
          I THINK SEAN HEARD YOU VERY WELL, AND TWO, DID WE HEAR YOU VERY WELL? I'M, I'M GONNA CALL AND I TALKED TO, UH, MS. BECKER ABOUT THIS ALREADY, AS, AS YOU KNOW, RECENT AS YESTERDAY, RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING. 
          WHEN CAN WE BRING THIS BACK FORWARD? I BELIEVE YOU ASKED, UM, WE CAN 
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PUT ALL OF THIS TOGETHER. 
          I'M GOING TO SAY OCTOBER. 
          UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS FORWARD, UM, WE HAVE A SPECIAL MAKEUP MEETING OR AN ADDITIONAL MEETING WITH COMMUNITY SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY TO CONTINUE SOME ITEMS, ESPECIALLY BASED ON YESTERDAY'S MEETING. 
          SO I'M GONNA SAY OCTOBER, IT'S A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, HOLDING A SPECIAL MEETING, DRAFTING THE CODE. 
          I'M GONNA LEAN ON CURTIS, I'M GONNA LEAN ON MY TEAM THAT WRITES CODE. 
          BUT ONCE WE KNOW WHAT TO WRITE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE US 10 DAYS TO WRITE THE CODE. 
          I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR IN, IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE REGULATIONS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MORATORIUM? NO, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR. 
          NO, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE YESTERDAY, THE REGULATIONS, WHICH IS THE DRAFT, A DRAFT OF REGULATIONS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS IF INDEED THE COMMITTEE CAN CONSIDER IT AND ACT ON IT IN OCTOBER, THEN THAT WOULD PUT IT BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL'S MUNICIPAL CODE AMENDMENT IN NOVEMBER. 
          AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT NOW, THERE'S ONE REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULED IN NOVEMBER, AND I THINK A WORKSHOP, IF THAT'S CORRECT, BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL. 
          AND IT TAKES TWO READINGS OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE. 
          SO UNLESS WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN NOVEMBER, THAT MEANS WE WOULD NOT ADOPT NEW REGULATIONS UNTIL THE ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER. 
          AND THIS IS IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS PROCESS AS WE CONSIDER WHAT TO DO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE TIMING. 
          I, I, WELL, I'LL, I'LL ANSWER MORE DIRECTLY. 
          I, I CAN HAVE, AND WITH CURTIS'S HELP AND THE TEAM OVER, THERE'S HELP. 
          WE CAN WRITE, WE COULD HAVE A DRAFT CODE FOR YOUR REVIEW BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. 
          THAT'S TWO WEEKS, SEPTEMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, BUT THE COMMITTEE WILL THEN HAVE TO CORRECT SCHEDULE A MEETING TO ACT IN OCTOBER. 
          SO THERE'S A RARE POSSIBILITY, I DARE SAY , THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL COULD HAVE A SECOND READING SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER, TAKES ONE ONE WEEK APART, AS I RECALL, BETWEEN READINGS. 
          SO A RARE POSSIBILITY. 
          A VERY RARE POSSIBILITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE HAVE TO ON OUR TRACK TO REMIND OURSELVES OF THE PROCESS. 
          WE'LL WRITE THE CODE, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE, IF COMMITTEE SO CHOOSES THEY BRING IT FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR TWO READINGS, FIRST AND SECOND. 
          UH, I'LL LEAN ON CURTIS AGAIN, MR. COLTRANE, I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A PENDING ORDINANCE DOCTRINE CAN BE EFFECTIVE FOR AS A TOWN CODE AMENDMENT BECAUSE IT MUNICIPAL CODE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND MAYOR, THE REASON I ASK ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE OF, UH, SUGGESTIONS ABOUT WELL, WHY HAVE A MORATORIUM IF YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND ACT, AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS AT PLAY HERE, AND THAT IS, UM, IT, IT, AND HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO GET OUT THE PROCESS FIRST. 
          AND, AND THAT IS THAT RENEWALS ON STR PERMITS START IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE THE, UH, THE TIME PERIOD IS FOR THE RENEWALS TO BEGIN ON JANUARY 1ST, 2026. 
          UM, AND SO A FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, UM, AND, AND PERHAPS MR. COLTRANE NEEDS TO ANSWER THIS, AND THAT IS, IF THE TOWN COUNCIL CAN ACT ON NEW REGULATIONS ON STR IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER, CAN THEY BE APPLICABLE TO APPLICATIONS, UM, FOR PERMITS WHICH BEGIN JANUARY 1ST, 2026? WELL, THE REGULATIONS, WHEN THEY GO INTO EFFECT, GO INTO EFFECT. 
          I MEAN, THE, THE REGULATION DOESN'T AFFECT THE, THE APPLICATION. 
          I MEAN, YOU HAVE YOUR SDR PERMIT. 
          I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA, BUT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE REGULATIONS ARE. 
          AND ASSUMING THAT THE TIMING IS, UM, AS, UH, MANAGER HAS SUGGESTED MEANING TEXT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT THAT, IT IS CERTAINLY WITHIN COUNCIL'S ABILITY TO ADOPT THEM BY THE END OF OCTOBER. 
          AND SO THEN THEY COULD BE EFFECTIVE THAT THEY'D BE EFFECTIVE UPON ADOPTION. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND APPLY TO THE PERMITS AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2026. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          I THINK THEY'D BE EFFECTIVE IF YOU ADOPTED IN NOVEMBER. 
          I MEAN, BUT IF THE CONCERN IS, IS THAT THOSE APPLYING SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU CAN MAKE A TIMELINE WORK THAT ACCOMPLISHES THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IF THERE WERE A BRIEF PAUSE, THEN HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS BEGINNING JANUARY 1ST, 2026? THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DETAIL IN THAT QUESTION FOR ME TO ANSWER IT. 
          OKAY, 
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I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, SO IT, IT, THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I'VE HAD ABOUT THAT PROCESS. 
          SEPARATELY, WE HAVE THE LMO REGULATIONS. 
          AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND TONIGHT, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA FIND A TIMELINE OF PROPOSED TIMELINE, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE'RE LOOKING AT 12 TO 18 MONTHS. 
          IF WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY TO HAVE A NEW LMO WITH MAPS IN PLACE, THAT MEANS AS BEST I CAN CALCULATE, MS. HUNTER IS BETTER AT CALCULATING THINGS THAN ME. 
          SO I'LL LOOK AT HER AND SAY, LET ME KNOW IF I'M WRONG ON MY CALCULATION HERE. 
          SO THAT MEANS WE'RE LOOKING AT JUNE 30TH, 2027. 
          THAT'S 12 TO 18 MONTHS. 
          NO, BEFORE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHEN DID I MISS? BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE A DRAFT UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, 2025, AND THEN IT'S 12 TO 18 MONTHS. 
          THAT PUTS US TO DECEMBER OF 2026 AND ANOTHER SIX MONTHS PUTS US TO JUNE T OF 2027. 
          SO WHAT AM I MISSING IN THE INFORMATION? WELL, MAYOR, IF YOU ASKED ME EARLIER TO GIVE YOU A SCHEDULE, I HAVEN'T PROVIDED THAT SCHEDULE YET. 
          UM, WHEN I REFERENCED 12 TO 18 MONTHS, I SAID, THAT'S A BEST PRACTICE FOR A TASK FORCE. 
          SOMETHING THAT IS A 12 TO 18 MONTH TIMEFRAME. 
          I DID NOT PUT A SHOCK CLOCK ON THE CODE OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS. 
          UM, WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT I DID SAY IS THAT I WILL GIVE YOU THE CODE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          WE'LL START LOOKING AT THE DISTRICT PLANS FIRST QUARTER. 
          UM, I THINK I WAS CORRECTED THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PACE AND URGENCY, UM, AND SAID Q2. 
          BY THE TIME Y'ALL MAY SEE THIS THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL, I DID NOT. 
          AND I, WE WANNA SAY THAT I DID NOT SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE US 12 TO 18 MONTHS FROM DECEMBER 31ST TO BRING YOU A CODE FORWARD. 
          IF YOU LOVE THE CODE, WE CAN GET THIS DONE IN FEBRUARY. 
          THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT FOR A FEW MONTHS WITH THE TASK FORCE, WITH PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH YOUR COMMITTEE, AND WITH YOU ALL AS A COUNCIL. 
          SO GIVE ME SOME TIME. 
          PLEASE DON'T PUT ME ON THE SPOT TO TELL YOU WHEN THE CODE'S DONE. 
          AND LET'S NOT SAY IT'S 18 MONTHS AWAY THOUGH, EITHER, PLEASE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND I'M TRYING TO ANALYZE THIS MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE FOLKS HAVE BEEN ARGUING, WHY DON'T YOU WAIT AND DO IT THIS WAY? MM-HMM . 
          AND, AND SO THERE'S TWO SEPARATE THINGS. 
          THERE'S MUNICIPAL CODE REGULATIONS AND THERE'S LMO REGULATIONS MM-HMM . 
          ON THESE THREE TOPICS. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA GET SOME IDEA FOR US TO THINK REALISTICALLY ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITHIN CERTAIN TIME PERIOD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I'M TRULY NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU, AND I'M NOT GONNA HOLD YOU TO ANY DAY. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME IDEA. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MS. BAKER. 
          UM, SURE. 
          OH MY GOODNESS. 
          I TOOK QUITE A BIT OF NOTES. 
          I HAVE SO MANY DIRECTIONS I COULD GO. 
          UM, BUT IN THE, UM, I'M GONNA HOLD MY TONGUE ON MANY OF THEM. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS SAID THAT WERE INACCURATE. 
          THERE WERE A LOT OF, UM, SLIGHTS THAT WERE MADE THAT WERE UNFAIR AND INACCURATE. 
          UM, BUT THE ONE I WANNA ASK MY COLLEAGUES HERE IS HOW MANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS STICKING WITH SHORT-TERM RENTALS HERE, HOW MANY SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE ENOUGH? WHAT'S THE NUMBER? IF WE'RE AT 7,042 TODAY, NOT DEBATING PAST THAT, ET CETERA, BUT TAKING TODAY'S NUMBER, WHICH CAME INFLATED, BECAME INFLATED AFTER COVID, WE KNOW THAT. 
          AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE HAS GONE DOWN AS EVIDENCED BY SOMEONE MADE THE COMMENT, UM, THAT NUMBERS OF SHORT TERM RENTALS IN NEIGHBORHOODS VERSUS RESIDENTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY IN FAVOR OF SHORT TERM RENTALS, WHICH MEANS, ALRIGHT, OUR RESIDENTS ARE GOING SOMEWHERE . 
          SO, UM, SO THAT'S A DATA POINT I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME CLARITY ON. 
          BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT PART THAT WE KNOW IS THAT SHORT-TERM RENTAL NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP ACROSS THE ISLAND, AND RESIDENTS IN THOSE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS, FULL-TIME RESIDENTS HAVE GONE DOWN. 
          SO HOW MANY IS THE RIGHT NUMBER? DO WE START TODAY AT 7 0 4 2 AND SAY, NEXT MONTH AN INCREASE OF A HUNDRED FOLLOWING MONTH, AN INCREASE OF ANOTHER A HUNDRED TILL WE GET TO SOME OTHER NUMBER AND WE JUST KEEP GOING UNTIL WE NO LONGER HAVE RESIDENTS HERE WHO WANT TO BE HERE BECAUSE THE QUALITY OF LIFE HAS DISSIPATED. 
          NOT ANECDOTALLY. 
          I, I SIT IN THIS CHAIR 
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FOR SEVEN YEARS AND I HEAR, AND I SEE, AND I TALK TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE ISLAND. 
          IT'S REAL. 
          BUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER? WHERE ARE WE AT FOR ME? IF YOU WANNA ASK ME WHAT THE, A MORATORIUM DOES, A MORATORIUM ESTABLISHES A NUMBER. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO USE A MORATORIUM, BUT WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH A NUMBER OR ELSE THIS IS A CONTINUING PROCESS OF SHORT TERM RENTALS TAKING OVER EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD POSSIBLE. 
          IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK THAT WE DID MAKE SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS YESTERDAY IN A FOUR HOUR ROBUST DISCUSSION FOR ALL THOSE WHO CHOSE TO PARTICIPATE. 
          AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT. 
          AND FROM THAT WE CAME TO SOME PLACES WHERE WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU MAY HAVE INTEREST IN. 
          YOU HEAR A TIMELINE BEING PRESENTED TODAY. 
          I'VE MADE MYSELF AVAILABLE NOT ONLY TO BRING MY COMMITTEE TOGETHER TO DISCUSS THOSE, BUT ALSO TO MEET WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED IN HAVING A ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATION OR SMALL GROUP CONVERSATIONS. 
          SO THAT OPPORTUNITY EXISTS FOR ANYONE AND I WELCOME IT. 
          SO I'VE MADE THAT. 
          MAYOR, CAN I ASK YOU, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, UM, THAT WE WERE JUST HAVING ABOUT TIMELINES, COULD YOU SEE YOURSELF HOLDING ADDITIONAL SPECIAL MEETINGS AS NECESSARY? EXCUSE ME. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMITMENT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMITMENT. 
          I THINK THE WORK THAT WE DID YESTERDAY, THE WORK THAT STAFF WILL BE DOING AND OUR COMMITMENTS TO MOVING THIS ALONG, UM, SHOULD PUT INTO PLACE THE TYPE OF MEASURES THAT THE COMMUNITIES HAVE ASKED FOR. 
          BUT I HAVE TO SAY, I'M STILL INTERESTED TO THE ANSWER, HOW MANY, HOW MANY SHORT TERM RENTAL UNITS ON THE ISLAND? UNLIMITED. 
          WE KNOW THE DAMAGE THAT'S BEING DONE. 
          YOU HAVE CAN'T BE YOU. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC AND REAL HERE, RIGHT? HONEST, HONEST, THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 
          SO I'D LIKE AN ANSWER TO THAT FROM MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE. 
          WHAT'S THE NUMBER, WHAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS? MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE DISCUSSION YESTERDAY MORNING, UH, BASED ON THE PRESENTATION BY MR. LEININGER, IS THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL TOPICS WE WERE NOT GONNA TAKE UP AT THE CURRENT TIME, BUT MAY CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE. 
          CAPS WERE ONE OF THEM WE WERE NOT GONNA TAKE UP, BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION FROM YESTERDAY. 
          MY, MY FRIEND AND, AND, AND I'M, AND MY CONCERN AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS, UM, WHAT IS, WHAT IS A NUMBER? IS IT INFANT INFINITE? I MEAN, Y'ALL MUST HAVE AN OPINION. 
          I I I THINK THAT THAT NUMBER TAKES A LOT OF, UM, UNDERSTANDING AND, UH, DATA, UH, ANALYSIS TO REALLY LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE. 
          UM, I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY WHAT I THINK IT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S FAIR. 
          I NEED MORE INFORMATION. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S JUST A LOT. 
          DO YOU THINK WE'RE AT A GOOD NUMBER NOW, MAYOR? UM, I'M NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          WHAT IS YOUR SENSE? YOU DON'T HAVE A SENSE. 
          WELL, I'M, I'M TELLING YOU THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME I'M NOT ANSWERING THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I WANT MORE INFORMATION. 
          UM, YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT ME ON THE SPOT AND THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT THE CONVERSATION SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT TODAY. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE LIMITED. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS AN OPEN AND FREE CONVERSATION WITH HONEST TRANSPARENCY. 
          BUT IF WE'RE NOT PREPARED FOR THAT, THAT'S OKAY TOO. 
          , , EVERYTHING'S JUST SHUT OFF. 
          I HAVE TO RETHINK MY POSITION ON PUMPKINS, I THINK. 
          MR. BROWN. 
          YEP. 
          MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, I'M, I'M GONNA TRY MY BEST TO SORT OF BRING US BACK TO CENTER HERE. 
          I DID NOT ATTEND YESTERDAY'S MEETING, BUT WHEN I WAS DONE WITH MY OBLIGATION, THAT PREVENTED ME FROM BEING HERE, I TOOK THE TIME TO WATCH IT. 
          UM, SOMEBODY GAVE ME A TIP TO GO TO YOUR SETTINGS AND SPEED IT UP. 
          Y'ALL TALKED VERY FAST ON 1.25 . 
          UM, WHAT I GATHERED FROM YESTERDAY'S VERY VIVID DISCUSSION, AND I'LL GIVE THE CHAIR CREDIT OF OPENING THE DIALOGUE IN THE CONVERSATION, BUT WHAT I HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THROUGH COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, AND IN PARTICULAR THE PARTICIPATION OF OUR COLLEAGUES, WAS THAT THERE IS SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT HERE THAT WE CAN HANDLE IN 
          [04:30:01]
A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          WE'RE ASKING MR. ORLANDO TO COME BACK WITH COLD, BUT I THINK WE ARE MAYBE ASKING TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT ON THE PLATE YESTERDAY. 
          AND IF WE ASK HIM TO COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH ALL OF THAT, THEN I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD MEASURE. 
          HOWEVER, THE DISCUSSION AROUND OCCUPANCY, DISCUSSION AROUND PARKING, DISCUSSION AROUND IF A GRILL SHOULD HAVE A TIMER ON IT, , THAT'S PRETTY EASY STUFF TO HANDLE. 
          SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION AROUND QUALITY THAT WE CAN DO SOME THINGS ABOUT IMMEDIATELY AND NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT QUANTITY. 
          THAT'S GONNA TAKE US A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE COMMITTING TO HAVING SPECIAL MEETINGS. 
          I APPRECIATE THE MAYOR SAYING HE WILL SUPPORT THAT, BUT LET'S BE REALISTIC ABOUT THE FEW ITEMS THAT WE CAN GET DONE HERE QUICKLY AND AGREE TO THAT. 
          MAYOR, SORRY. 
          IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE WITH A LIGHT ON I, MS. DONNER, UM, I WAS, UH, AGAIN AT THE MEETING YESTERDAY AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE DIALOGUE THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN, UM, THE COMMITTEE AND THE, UH, PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          AND I REALLY NOTICED A CHANGE. 
          AND IT WAS A CHANGE IN HAVING A DIALOGUE IN DISCUSSING MANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, I KNOW WE'RE ALL FRUSTRATED THAT CHANGE HAS NOT COME, YOU KNOW, AND I'M FRUSTRATED AND I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR EIGHT MONTHS, YOU KNOW, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PARKING AND OCCUPANCY IN FEBRUARY AND WE COULDN'T COME TO AN ALIGNMENT, AND THEN NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IN SEPTEMBER, THAT FRUSTRATES ME. 
          BUT I ALSO WAS ENCOURAGED THAT WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION AND WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER ITEMS AS WELL. 
          AND WE ARE, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GETTING SOME TRACTION. 
          WHAT I DON'T WANT TO OCCUR IS THAT WE MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA BE IN EFFECT FOR 2026 ON PARKING, ON OCCUPANCY, ON FIRE AND SAFETY. 
          AND I'M CONCERNED THAT IF WE FOCUS OUR TIME ON OTHER ITEMS, WE'LL MISS THAT WINDOW FOR MAKING SOME POSITIVE CHANGES WITH THE 2026 PERMITS. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M REALLY FEELING, UM, THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON. 
          THANK YOU MR. DESMOND. 
          SO I WROTE DOWN EARLIER, UM, WE GOT A LOT ON OUR PLATE. 
          AND FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME, UM, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING ON FIVE HOURS, YESTERDAY WAS FOUR HOURS. 
          AND FOR THOSE THAT THINK THAT THIS GROUP IS NOT WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE, YOU'RE MISTAKEN, UM, A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF EFFORT. 
          GREAT MEETING YESTERDAY, GREAT DIALOGUE. 
          OUR CHAIRPERSON, MS. BECKER DID A GREAT JOB AND GOT EVERYONE INVOLVED. 
          AND WE CAME TO SOME TYPE OF, UH, CONSENSUS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON. 
          UH, MR. CAMPBELL STOOD UP EARLIER AND HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL GOOD FOR THESE MORATORIUMS, YOU FEEL GOOD FOR A LITTLE WHILE. 
          RIGHT? AND THEN THINGS CHANGED, AND I CAN JUST DIFFERENT THAN MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MR. ALFRED. 
          HE'S BEEN IN POLITICS MOST OF HIS LIFE. 
          UM, BUT, AND I KNOW MS. BRYSON'S BEEN AROUND IT. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR NOT, NEVER ASKED HER THAT QUESTION, BUT I KNOW SHE WAS AN ATTORNEY FOR, FOR A CITY. 
          AND SO THEY'VE SEEN THESE THINGS BEFORE, BUT MOST OF US HAVEN'T. 
          AND I HAVE. 
          SO I WAS HERE 95 THROUGH OH TWO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHICH JUDGE IT WAS THAT WAS HERE OR WASN'T HERE, BUT THEY WERE ALL JUDGES. 
          AND WE HAD JUDGE COLTRANE THAT WAS OUR ATTORNEY, AND WE HAD JUDGE FINGER, AND WE HAD JUDGE RUFFALO. 
          AND SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHO, WHO RAN THE SHOW AS OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AT THE TIME, BUT I DO REMEMBER THAT WE PUT A MORATORIUM IN FOR, UH, BUILDING PERMITS. 
          IT WAS EARLY ON, YOU KNOW, NOT LONG AFTER 10 YEARS AFTER THE TOWN HAD INCORPORATED. 
          SO THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON. 
          UH, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WE ALL FELT LIKE WERE GETTING OUTTA HAND AND WE NEEDED TO GET A HANDLE ON IT. 
          UM, SO I DO REMEMBER A LOT ABOUT IT. 
          AND, UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK OUR LATE MR. BRAMAN MADE THE MOTION AND OUR LATE MR. FERGUSON SECOND, I DIDN'T. 
          GOOD FRIEND MR. FERGUSON. 
          HE SAT RIGHT HERE WHERE I'M SITTING, AND WE HAD SOME GREAT DISCUSSION. 
          AND MOST OF MY LIFE HERE ON THE ISLAND, 
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I'VE BEEN IN THE ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS. 
          AND THIS WAS A MORATORIUM ON, ON PERMITS, BUILDING PERMITS. 
          AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT WAS SEVEN. 
          OH. 
          SO IT WAS AN UNBIASED VOTE, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BEST THING TO DO AT THAT TIME. 
          AND COULD WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY? LOOKING BACK, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE, DID IT HAVE ANY IMPLICATIONS ON PEOPLE'S LIFE? THE DIFFERENCE THEN, AND THE DIFFERENCE NOW IS, UM, MEDIA, IT'S, UH, TECHNOLOGY. 
          WE WOULD'VE A COUNCIL MEETING AND THREE PEOPLE WOULD BE IN THIS ROOM. 
          SO WHEN WE STARTED, FRANK'S NODDING HIS HEAD. 
          HE WAS ONE OF 'EM. 
          HE IS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM OR REC CENTER GUY. 
          AND WHEN WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, NO ONE OBJECTED, NO ONE KNEW ABOUT IT. 
          BUT THE ROOM'S FULL TODAY. 
          MY PHONE'S BEEN RINGING OFF THE HOOK FOR THREE OR FOUR DAYS. 
          UH, FOR THOSE THAT, IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAVE CALLED ME AND WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TODAY, COMING FROM MOST OF THE REAL ESTATE SIDE OF THINGS, IF YOU THINK IT'S REALLY BIASED IN THE REAL ESTATE, UH, WORLD, IT WASN'T. 
          I HAD ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF CALLS FROM RESIDENTS THAT AREN'T REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND IN OPPOSITION OF WHAT A LOT OF YOU SAID TODAY. 
          BUT HAVING BEEN THROUGH THIS, AND EVEN THEN YOU DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY BACK THEN, BECAUSE THE LACK OF TECHNOLOGY. 
          BUT ONLY THROUGH RUNNING INTO TO PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUALS. 
          AND HERE I AM IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS, AND SO I HAVE PEOPLE ASKING ME SIX MONTHS, A YEAR LATER AFTER THE MORATORIUM OR I RUN, LIKE, WHERE, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? WELL, I CHANGED CAREERS. 
          SO WE LOST SUBCONTRACTORS. 
          WE LOST, UH, APPLIANCE MANUFACTURER, UH, LOCAL APPLIANCE REPAIRMEN, PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND. 
          WE LOST, UH, EMPLOYEES FROM THE LUMBER COMPANIES, UH, WHICH I'M SURE IN SOME WAY IT HAD TO AFFECT OTHER BUSINESS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CONSTRUCTION. 
          BECAUSE WHEN THOSE PEOPLE QUIT WORKING AND THOSE PEOPLE LEAVE, OR THOSE PEOPLE CHANGE CAREERS AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, WELL, THEY'RE NOT IN YOUR RESTAURANTS. 
          THEY'RE NOT IN YOUR SHOPPING CENTERS. 
          SO WE, I, OVER A THREE OR FOUR YEAR PERIOD LEARNED THE EFFECT OF WHAT THAT MORATORIUM DID. 
          AND KNOWING THAT WE'RE SO CLOSE OF ALL OF YOU SITTING HERE TONIGHT, KNOWING THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT ON OUR PLATE AND OUR TOWN MANAGER THAT DOES SUCH A GREAT JOB, AND SEAN IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE. 
          AND WE KEEP LAYING IT ON THEM AND THEY KEEP FEEDING IT BACK AND THEY KEEP FIXING THINGS FOR US AND PUTTING IT BACK ON THE AGENDA. 
          I MEAN, THEY WORK SO HARD. 
          AND KNOWING THIS CONVERSATION BETWEEN MS. BRYSON AND MR. ORLANDO AND MR. COLTRANE TRYING TO GET THAT TIMELINE DOWN, I FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE ON TOP OF THIS SUBJECT. 
          SO A MORATORIUM TO CAUSE SO MUCH DAMAGE, UNINTENDED DAMAGE FOR ME, HAVING KNOWN WHAT HAPPENED 30 SOMETHING YEARS AGO, UH, IS JUST UNACCEPTABLE. 
          AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE WE CAN FIX OUR OWN PROBLEMS. THE MEETING YESTERDAY WAS, WAS AMAZING. 
          AND I THINK EVERYONE'S AGREED THAT IT WAS. 
          AND WE HAD THREE COUNCILMEN HERE STANDING UP AND OR TWO STANDING UP AND SPEAKING. 
          UH, MAYOR PERRY WAS LISTENING IN 'CAUSE HE'S HOME SICK. 
          YOU KNOW, I GOT A PHONE CALL LATER. 
          I'M TALKING TO HIM. 
          SO A LOT HAS TAKEN PLACE, UH, A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE STANDING UP AND EXPRESSING, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW IT'S A PASSION FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S YOUR LIVELIHOOD. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY REASON. 
          AND I BELIEVE YOU, I MEAN, WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG, WHO SPEAKS? IT'S, IT'S WHO'S HURT THE WORST SPEAKS, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHY THE ROOM'S FULL TODAY OF REAL ESTATE AGENTS. 
          I, I KNOW THAT, BUT THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT AWARE OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AREN'T HERE. 
          BUT FROM EXPERIENCE, I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. 
          AND WE NEED TO ME, AND HOPEFULLY MY COLLEAGUES WILL ACCEPT THAT FACT. 
          GET IN GEAR, DO WHAT MR. ORLANDO IS SAYING, WE CAN DO IN A, IN A PERIOD OF TIME, FIX SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ALL IN THE AUDIENCE AND UP HERE KNOW THAT ARE WRONG, ARE, ARE FIXABLE, AND, AND JUST GO TO WORK AND PUT OUR HEADS DOWN AND, AND CALL SPECIAL MEETINGS AND TRY TO GET THIS RIGHT, BUT WITHOUT A MORATORIUM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK 
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YOU, MS. PRICE. 
          MAYOR, I, I HAVE, I THINK WHAT IS A COMPROMISE TO SUGGEST? UM, BUT FIRST I WANNA SAY A COUPLE THINGS. 
          ONE IS BOTH MY PARENTS HAD SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          MY MOM HAD A DAYCARE BUSINESS AND THEY WERE SUBJECT TO LICENSING AND REGULATIONS. 
          MY DAD WAS IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS IN CONSTRUCTION. 
          I JOINED HIM IN THAT. 
          UM, HE TAUGHT ME TO BE A REAL ESTATE INVESTOR. 
          I AM A REAL ESTATE INVESTOR. 
          MY HUSBAND AND I ARE REAL ESTATE INVESTORS. 
          , WE ACTUALLY OWNED A SHORT TERM, UM, UH, AT SDR HERE ON THE ISLAND, A QUARTER SHARE, ONLY 13 WEEKS. 
          BUT WE WERE SDR OWNERS. 
          UM, WE ARE STILL LONG TERM RENTAL OWNERS, PROUDLY RENT TO WORKFORCE FOLKS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, SO WHY WOULD I SUGGEST SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURE POINTS WE'VE SEEN. 
          UM, MS. ANTHONY MENTIONED THE IMPACT ON JONESVILLE IN SPANISH. 
          WELLS ROSE WHEN, WHEN I WAS FIRST ELECTED IN 2022, THE FIRST THING THAT CAME UP WAS THE IMPACT OF THOSE SUBDIVISIONS. 
          THE CLEAR CUTTING, THE SWATHS OF LAND, THE ESTUARY OVER BY PALMETTO HALL HAD HAPPENED JUST BEFORE THAT. 
          UM, AND, AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON THE ISLAND, THAT'S THE VALUE THAT WE HAVE. 
          THAT'S WHY PEOPLE COME TO VISIT HERE. 
          THAT'S WHY THEY WANT TO INVEST HERE. 
          IF WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, THERE WILL BE NO VALUE. 
          IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT MARKET VALUES, WAIT UNTIL IT'S ALL THROUGH. 
          CUT WAIT UNTIL ALL WE HAVE IS MCMANSIONS ALL OVER THE ISLAND. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I'M GOING LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO? FRUSTRATED. 
          YES, MS. TURNER, I'M FRUSTRATED AS WELL THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE MORE SOONER. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT WE'VE DONE SOME LMO AMENDMENTS, BUT I WISH WE HAD DONE THE KIND OF STR REGULATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, OCCUPANCY AND PARKING AND LIFE SAFETY BEFORE NOW. 
          SO MY SUGGESTION AND A COMPROMISE IS THAT WE DO PAUSE FOR 90 DAYS, 90 DAYS ON NEW STR APPLICATIONS, AND THAT THOSE WHO HAVE A CURRENT STR PERMIT OR 2025 CAN REAPPLY. 
          THEY WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THAT 90 DAY PAUSE PROVIDED THEY COMPLY WITH WHATEVER NEW REGULATIONS ARE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026, WHICH GIVES US THAT ABILITY. 
          I KNOW MR. COLTRANE'S GONE A WHILE, THAT'S REALLY SOUND COMPLICATING, PATSY. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN PUT THIS TOGETHER IN THAT WAY AND WE WILL HAVE A, A SHORT PAUSE TO ALLOW US TO DO WHAT WE HAVE PLEDGED THAT WE WANT TO DO AND TO MAKE 'EM EFFECTIVE. 
          JANUARY 1ST, 2026. 
          AND THEN AFTER THE SHORT PAUSE, THERE CAN BE NEW APPLICATIONS. 
          AND THEN TO SUGGEST, UM, UH, INTERVAL OWNERSHIP AND MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, ACCEPTING FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, A 180 DAY PAUSE, WHICH GIVES US SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH THE LMO REWRITE PROCESS, WHICH IS WHERE THOSE WOULD BE ADDRESSED. 
          SO TO SPLIT UP THE THOUGHT OF PAUSES AND THANK YOU, MS. LAMAR, IF YOU'RE STILL HERE OR WHEREVER YOU MAY BE FOR USING A DIFFERENT TERM. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS TRULY WHAT IT'S ABOUT. 
          IT'S ABOUT SAYING, HANG ON. 
          WE HAVE HAD A LOT MORE INPUT FROM FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE IMPACT. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST THE COMPLAINTS. 
          DON'T USE THAT NUMBER. 
          USE THE NUMBER OF HOW IS IT IMPACTING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          MY HUSBAND AND I USED TO LIVE IN SOUTH FOREST BEACH. 
          WE LIVED IN A CONDO DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE WERE SURROUNDED BY TIMESHARES, STR, LONG-TERM TENANTS, PERMANENT RESIDENTS, FOLKS WHO OWN UNITS AND WERE THERE SOMETIMES OF THE YEAR AND, AND LIVED AT ANOTHER HOME OTHER TIMES OF THE YEAR. 
          WE WERE SURROUNDED PRE AND WORKFORCE. 
          WE WERE, WE WERE SURROUNDED BY EVERYTHING. 
          AND WE LOVED TO WALK IN SOUTH FOREST BEACH AND NORTH FOREST BEACH. 
          AND WHAT I SAW IN NORTH FOREST BEACH IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN LONG THERE, TAKEN DOWN AND MCMANSIONS BUILT. 
          THE OTHER THING I SHARED YESTERDAY, IF YOU DO THIS, GO ON VRBO AND LOOK AT HAVING 20 PEOPLE IN A HOUSE. 
          AND YOU'LL FIND SEVERAL OF THOSE THAT ARE THREE STORY UNITS. 
          THE BOTTOM LEVEL IS THE GARAGE, THE NEXT LEVEL IS PART LIVING. 
          AND WHAT THEY DO IS PUT BUNK ROOMS FOR CHILDREN 
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ON THE FINISHED ATTIC WITH A SMALL WINDOW FOR A FIRE ESCAPE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TWO MAJOR THINGS, THE IMPACTS ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE FIRE SAFETY OF THOSE CHILDREN IN BUNK ROOMS. IT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT WORRIED ABOUT THAT. 
          THINK ABOUT THE TRIP ISLAND FIRE WHERE YOU HAD ROWS OF HOUSES. 
          IF GOD FORBID THAT HAPPENS, HOW WILL THOSE CHILDREN IN THE BUNK ROOM GET OUT? THAT'S WHY I WANT US TO SAY, STOP. 
          LET'S DEAL WITH OCCUPANCY LIFE SAFETY NOW. 
          HAVE A SHORT PAUSE, GET TO WORK, GET IT DONE, AND TAKE CARE OF THAT, THOSE KIND OF DANGERS. 
          AND IF WE SPLIT THESE UP, IT'LL FIT WITHIN THE TIMELINE WE'VE DISCUSSED. 
          AND MAYOR, THAT'S MY SUGGESTED COMPROMISE. 
          I'LL RUN THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME FOR STRS. 
          A 90 DAY PAUSE, ALLOWING FOLKS TO RENEW APPLICATIONS IF THEY HAVE A CURRENT 2025 PERMIT, PROVIDED THAT THEY COMPLY WITH ANY NEW STR REGULATIONS, WHICH WILL BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2026. 
          AND TO HAVE A 180 DAY MORATORIUM ON MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, ACCEPTING FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, AND ON INTERVAL OWNERSHIP. 
          THAT'S MY SUGGESTED MPROMISE. 
          OKAY. 
          I I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE IN THREE MINUTES I'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING. 
          UM, UM, ACTUALLY I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO IT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, I'M GONNA ASK COUNSEL, SINCE OUR CODE SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO END AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, UM, COUNSEL AND MR. COLTRANE CORRECT ME IF I'M INCORRECT ON THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO EXTEND THE TIME IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT IS THE TEXT IN THE CODE AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE A MOTION TO EXTEND AND IF SO, FOR HOW LONG , MR. MAYOR, UM, I MOVE THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL EXTEND THEIR MEETING TIME, UH, FOR ANOTHER 30 MINUTES. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I CALL SECONDED. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR OF PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVED. 
          WE'VE NOW GONE TO EIGHT 30. 
          UM, THE QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN POSED, UM, IS DO WE WANT MR. LAND TO GO BACK AND WORK ON A POTENTIAL 90 DAY PAUSE FOR NEW SHORT-TERM RENTALS? UM, EXCLUDING THOSE THAT ALREADY HAVE, AND YES, MR. BROWN? YEAH, MR. MAYOR BEFORE I, THIS IS JUST FOR HIM FOR DIRECTION. 
          YEAH, NO, BEFORE I VOTE. 
          YEAH, NO, BEFORE I RESPOND TO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN BECKER AND I SERVE A VERY IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL ROLE IN THIS TOWN COUNCIL'S BUSINESS AS CHAIRS OF THE TWO COMMITTEES. 
          AS YOU SAW HERE EARLIER TONIGHT, WE HAD AN ITEM BEFORE US THAT CAME OUT OF MY COMMITTEE WITH A POSITIVE VOTE AND WAS CHANGED ON THIS DAAS TONIGHT, WHICH IS FINE. 
          THAT HAPPENS. 
          MS. BECCA HAS COMMITTED TO HAVING SPECIAL MEETINGS AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND AS SHE WAS ASKING THE MAYOR A QUESTION EARLIER, I'M GOING TO ASK HER A VERY DIRECT QUESTION TO HELP US ALONG WITH THIS. 
          DO WE WANT TO TAKE A PAUSE OR NOT? WILL THE COMMITTEE UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP BE PREPARED TO BRING BACK THE ITEMS THAT WE CAN AGREE ON TO MOVE FORWARD NOT EVERYTHING, AND NOT HAVE THE CONVERSATION CREEP INTO OTHER THINGS? LET'S STAY FOCUSED ON THE THINGS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US, THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN FEBRUARY, AND BRING THAT BACK TO US IN A TIMELY MANNER SO WE CAN ALL VOTE ON IT. 
          THAT QUESTION IS FOR YOU, MS. BECCA. 
          I THINK I MIGHT NEED SOME CLARITY ON YOUR QUESTION. 
          WHAT ARE YOU ASKING ME? YOU'RE ASKING I'LL, I'LL USE SOME HYPOTHETICALS IF THERE'S SIX. 
          LET'S, LET'S JUST SAY WHAT THE FACTS. 
          SURE, ABSOLUTELY. 
          IT'S FINE. 
          SO JUST PHRASING THEN, LET ME TELL THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REPHRASE, IF THERE'S ITEMS, WHAT I HEARD THAT MR. ORLANDO HAS BEFORE HIM TO WRITE CODE IN TWO WEEKS, 10 DAYS, IF HE COMES BACK WITH, LET'S SAY THREE OF THEM, AND WE CAN AGREE ON THOSE THREE, THAT WE MOVE THAT ALONG AND NOT WAIT FOR THE ENTIRE SIX A HUNDRED PERCENT IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. 
          HOWEVER, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING WHAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT AND IT ACTUALLY, MR. BROWN WAS GOING TO BE A SUGGESTION THAT I BROUGHT AS THEY'RE READY. 
          AND SOME OF THEM SHOULD BE READY FAIRLY QUICKLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY WERE BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, MAYBE NOT COMPLETELY AS WE SEE THEM TODAY, 
          [04:50:01]
BUT BACK IN FEBRUARY. 
          SO THOSE GO, THOSE CAN BE MOVED FORWARD. 
          IF THAT REQUIRES ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING WHEN ANOTHER GROUP IS READY, I'M AVAILABLE. 
          THIS IS MY RESPONSIBILITY. 
          I HAVE NOTHING ELSE AS A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN MAKING SURE THAT I RESPOND, UM, TO THE RESIDENTS OF THIS ISLAND. 
          HOW THE EXTRA PART OF WHAT I HEARD THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFICATION ON IS, UM, THE ENTIRE PORTFOLIO OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED YESTERDAY IS INTENDED TO BE MOVED FORWARD FOR, FOR OUR DISCUSSION AND SUBMITTAL TO TOWN COUNCIL SO THAT THEY COULD BE USED AS COUNCILWOMAN BRYSON HAS SAID IN THE, UM, REVIEW OF ANY NEW, UH, AS SHORT A SHORT TERM RENTAL APPLICATIONS AND RENEWALS FOR JANUARY 26TH. 
          SO AS LONG AS THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE PACKAGE, YES. 
          SO YES. 
          AND IF THAT WAS PART OF WHAT YOU SAID, AND THAT WAS WHERE MY CLARITY WAS, WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED YESTERDAY BEING BROUGHT THROUGH COMMITTEE. 
          THERE'S SOME REALIZATION THAT NOT ALL OF IT'S GOING TO MAKE THE TIMELINE IS WHAT I'M, WHERE I'M GOING. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I TRUST STAFF. 
          THEY'VE MADE A COMMITMENT, I'VE TALKED TO THEM, BUT IN CASE IT DOESN'T, IN CASE IT DOESN'T, WE STILL MOVE FORWARD. 
          WELL, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'M NOT LOOKING TO HOLD EVERYTHING UP, BUT I'M ALSO COUNTING ON THE COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. 
          INTEGRITY AND WORD ONE'S WORD IS IMPORTANT. 
          YOU KNOW, MARK, LEMME LEMME ASK YOU A QUESTION. 
          UM, MR. ORLANDO, UM, ADJUSTED THE REGULATIONS OF OR ORDINANCE FLASH COAT A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN CREATING A PAUSE OR A A STAY. 
          BECAUSE REALLY IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE COMING UP WITH THESE NEW CODES AND AS PART OF THE APPLICATION THAT THERE ARE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING FORWARD. 
          SO APPLICATION IS MADE FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, IT'S STATED WITHIN THAT DOCUMENT THAT THERE ARE CHANGES COMING AND THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEM, THEN WHY HAVE A A 90 DAY PAUSE? I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M, I JUST WANT YOU TO, THAT WAS A, IT WAS ROUNDABOUT. 
          WHAT WAS THE QUESTION THERE? THERE WAS, BUT WHICH WOULD YOU PREFER AS A STAFF? WELL, PRIOR TO YESTERDAY, I WOULD'VE SAID, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DO THINK THAT Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY ENOUGH. 
          SEAN WALKED OUT OF YESTERDAY'S FOUR HOUR ROOM AND SAID, I HAVE ENOUGH. 
          I NEED A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR TIME WITH CURTIS AND OTHERS. 
          WE CAN WRITE THIS CODE. 
          I CAN PUT THIS ON AN AGENDA. 
          LIKE I SAID, I, I PROMISE YOU, I GIVE YOU MY WORD AND COMMITMENT THAT WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD DRAFT BY SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          THERE'S A SPECIAL SCHEDULED COMMUNITY SERVICE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          UM, OCTOBER 6TH. 
          OCTOBER 6TH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND, AND SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'LL BRING YOU BACK THAT DRAFT. 
          WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND IF THAT WORKS THEN IT CAN HIT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND THE COUNCIL MEETING THEREAFTER. 
          I'LL DO MY BEST. 
          OKAY. 
          I I'M GONNA ASK THIS, THIS QUESTION AS WELL. 
          AND PLEASE DON'T GO CRAZY ON ME WHEN I ASK THIS QUESTION BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS EVENING. 
          CAN WE COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT SUBDIVISIONS AND TIMESHARES AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? AM ASKING COUNSEL, WHEN IS OUR NEXT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING? I DON'T HAVE THAT DATE IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH, OCTOBER 7TH IS THE NEXT SCHEDULED TOWN COUNCIL MEETING. 
          HOW MANY WEEKS IS THAT? THREE WEEKS FROM NOW. 
          TWO WEEKS. 
          TWO WEEKS. 
          I'M JUST THINKING BECAUSE WE'VE GOT 25 MINUTES TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ADDRESS THE MONEY. 
          MAYOR, I CAN GIVE YOU MY ANSWER. 
          UM, YES, GENERALLY SPEAKING, BUT I CAN ALSO GIVE YOU THE ANSWER THAT WITH REGARD TO, UM, SUBDIVISIONS. 
          GIVEN THE QUALIFIER, I'M GONNA VOTE NO ON ANY, UM, MORATORIUM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          UM, AND IN TERMS OF THE MORATORIUM ON TIMESHARES, UM, MY GOAL, AND I'VE STATED IT OUT LOUD, IS TO RECOGNIZE THE DAMAGE DONE TO THE ISLAND FOR MANY REASONS. 
          I WANT THE SAKE OF TIME GO INTO IT ALL WITH REGARDING TIMESHARES. 
          UM, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE, BUT I WOULD DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY MORE ON THIS ISLAND. 
          SO A MORATORIUM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT SERVES EXCEPT FOR TIME TO GIVE STAFF, UM, AND OUR ATTORNEYS, UM, TO FIND OUT HOW WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. 
          BUT I BELIEVE THE RESIDENTS, AND I SPEAK FOR THEM WHEN I SAY THIS, DO NOT WANT ANY MORE ON THIS ISLAND. 
          [04:55:01]
SO THERE'S THAT. 
          THANK YOU MR. BROWN. 
          YEAH. 
          AS FAR AS, UH, CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION, MR. MAYOR, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF US USING THAT TIME, ENERGY, AND PAYROLL  ON THE REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE DELIBERATING. 
          SO I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO NOT DISCUSS THIS ANYMORE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE KNOW NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IMMEDIATELY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MR. ALFORD. 
          ANY COMMENT? I AGREE WITH MR. BROWN. 
          MR. TONER, I CONCUR THAT I DON'T WANT TO NOT HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SUBDIVISIONS AND, AND INTERVAL OWNERSHIP. 
          I'M OKAY WITH WAITING TWO WEEKS, UM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY WE WILL TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ON THAT. 
          BUT BECAUSE OF TWO REASONS. 
          ONE IS WE'VE GOT THREATENED LAND OUT THERE, UM, AND IF WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, WE'RE GOING TO, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THE TOWN COUNCIL'S GONNA BE ASKED TO BUY MORE LAND, WHICH MIGHT BE SUBDIVIDED. 
          AND WHILE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND WE'VE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT, WE DO NOT HAVE UNLIMITED RESOURCES TO KEEP BUYING UP LAND, NOR DO WE HAVE ALWAYS WILLING SELLERS. 
          UM, AND, AND TO MS. BECKER'S POINT OF ABOUT INTERVAL OWNERSHIP, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          BUT UNLESS, UNTIL WE PUT A, A PAUSE, A MORATORIUM IN PLACE UNTIL WE ADOPT NEW LMO REGULATIONS, THEN WE ARE AT RISK OF HAVING MORE INTERVAL OWNERSHIP. 
          , ANY COMMENT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. LANDER, YOU GOT YOUR, THOSE MARCHING ORDERS. 
          OKAY, WELL I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT MARCHING ORDERS BECAUSE I HEARD, UH, DIFFERENT IN TERMS, BUT YOU SET THE AGENDA. 
          SO YEAH, I'LL LOOK FOR YOUR, SOME, SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M GONNA ASK THAT IF WE CAN GO, I HAVE A MOTION TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          MY YES, WE DO. 
          WE HAVE PUBLIC 
          [11. Public Comment - Non Agenda Items]
COMMENT. 
          SO YES. 
          NON AGENDA ITEMS. NON AGENDA ITEMS. READY? YES. 
          UM, DAVE FERGUSON. 
          DAVE FERGUSON. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA COVER A COUPLE OF WOWS FROM TODAY. 
          UM, WOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ALL SEVEN OF YOU VOTED TO, UH, TO PUT ANOTHER TASK FORCE TOGETHER OF 21 PEOPLE. 
          I REALLY, THAT JUST BLOWS MY MIND THAT ALL SEVEN OF YOU HAVE AGREED ON IT 'CAUSE YOU REALLY AGREE ON ANYTHING. 
          UM, WOW THAT, UH, MR. MAYOR, YOU STARTED THIS CONVERSATION HERE ON, ON THE POSSIBLE MORATORIUM, UM, IN THE HIGHEST LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THIS TOWN BY STATING YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY AGAINST IT. 
          SO ANYBODY FOLLOWING YOU ON THIS DAIS AS A LEADER, YOU'VE BLED 'EM THAT WAY. 
          POOR LEADERSHIP. 
          AND I HAD SOMEONE, I KNOW I'VE BEEN P*****G YOU GUYS OFF A LOT LATELY 'CAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF YOU AND I'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF YOUR ASSOCIATES THAT YOU DON'T LIKE ME CALLING YOU OUT ON LEADERSHIP. 
          BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS. 
          OKAY? I SAID IT BEFORE, THERE'S BEEN 33 MONTHS YOU PROMISED IN LMO AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT IS KICKING THOSE THINGS DOWN THE ROAD AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE ELSE ASKED ME EARLIER, WHAT QUALIFIES YOU TO GET UP HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT LEADERSHIP ALL THE TIME. 
          SO THROUGH MY FRIENDS IN THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, SOME OF YOU KNOW ME, BUT, UM, I LED IN THE US AIR FORCE. 
          I LED IN CORPORATE AMERICA FOR 21 YEARS AND I'VE LED AN INTERNATIONALLY RESPECTED LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT COMPANY NOW FOR 17 YEARS, I HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF THE LARGEST REAL ESTATE FRANCHISES IN LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT AND COACHING IN THIS WORLD. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, I EMPATHIZED WITH YOU BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY YOU MAKE YOUR LIVING. 
          I KNOW THERE'S NOT MANY OF YOU LEFT. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF MY FRIENDS HERE TODAY. 
          UM, AND UM, I'M KIND OF STUCK ON THEM WHETHER I HAVE A MORATORIUM OR NOT. 
          SO IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER AT THIS POINT TO ME. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT, UM, YOU GUYS SHOW UP WHEN IT'S GONNA HIT YOUR POCKETS. 
          SOME OF US SHOW UP AT THESE MEETINGS ALL THE TIME AND WE GET TO SEE THIS DISPLAYED. 
          UM, I THINK I WOULD SUGGEST YOU START SHOWING UP AT THESE MEETINGS WHEN IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT REAL ESTATE. 
          UM, AND YOU ELECTED THIS MAYOR, BY THE WAY 'CAUSE YOU WERE THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTORS TO HIS CAMPAIGN. 
          UM, SO, UM, YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT NOW. 
          AND, UM, I THINK, UM, I THINK WE ALL REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FOLKS WE ELECT THE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS IN THIS TOWN BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A SMALL TOWN ANYMORE. 
          WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE UP HERE. 
          THERE'S 38,000 PE PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN THAT ARE RESIDENTS THAT NEED TO BE REPRESENTED WELL. 
          AND THE WAY WE KICK THINGS DOWN THE ROAD IN THIS TOWN IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT WE WAIT 3, 4, 5 YEARS AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE MORATORIUMS COME UP AND EVERYBODY'S SURPRISED. 
          THANK 
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YOU. 
          I'M GOING TO MISPRONOUNCE THIS NAME. 
          OKAY. 
          QUIN NUGENT. 
          HELLO MAYA. 
          MY NAME IS QUINN TO, UM, MY FAMILY AND I OWN NAIL TALK SPA ON THE ISLAND. 
          UM, SINCE 2017, RIGHT NEXT TO THE NECTAR RESTAURANT, UM, WE BUILT OUR BUSINESS WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE LOCAL RESIDENT AND TODAY WE EMPLOY 15 PEOPLE WITH PLAN TO HIRE 10 MORE, UH, FOR OUR NEW HEPA. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE CANNOT OPEN BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCIES DESPITE FOLLOWING EVERY RULE, SUBMITTING FULL ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING AND RECEIVE PERMIT APPROVAL, INCLUDING FOR THE EVERY YEAR. 
          NOW IN QUESTION, WE ARE BEING DENIED THE ABILITY TO OPEN, UM, YES, AT THE SAME CHAIR USING, UH, SO MANY SALON ACROSS THE TON AND HILTON HEAD ISLAND WHERE INSPECTION FOCUS ON PLUMBING ELECTRIC CITY, NOT ABOUT LIKE THE FURNITURE CHOICES. 
          UM, EVEN OUR CURRENT NAIL SALON WE REPLACED HERE MULTIPLE TIME WITH DE ISU. 
          UM, YET NOW FOR REASON UNCLEAR, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN HELD UP AND I INVEST OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO BRING IN SOMETHING NEW TO HILTON HEAD ISLAND, UM, LUXURY HASA AS WILL ATTRACT VISITOR DELIGHT, LOCAL FAMILY AND CREATE A JOB. 
          SO I SIMPLE ASKING THE TILE TO HONOR IS ON APPROVAL AND ALLOW US TO OPEN OUR DOOR SO WE CAN CONTINUE SERVE OUR NEIGHBOR, GROW OUR TEAM, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND COMMUNITY WE LOVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TRISTAN O'GRADY. 
          HE IS GONE. 
          CHARLES SAMPSON. 
          I MADE THE COMMENT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY, SO MR. ORLANDO, DO WE HAVE A NEED TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? MAYOR, I'M SORRY. 
          IF WE COULD ASK THE TOWN MANAGER TO CHECK INTO THE REQUEST ABOUT THE CEO YEAH. 
          ON AN OPERATIONAL LEVEL. 
          I, I MISSED THAT. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL GRAB IT FROM THE TOWN CLERK. 
          YEP. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE A, 
          [12. Executive Session]
A NEED TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, SIR. 
          ITEMS, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM 12, A, B, C, AND D. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION. 
          SO MOVE. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISE RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVED TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO COME 
          [13. Action from Executive Session]
OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND, MR. BROWN, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTION COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES, SIR. 
          I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE MAIN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THE UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE FOR THE PURCHASE OF 1.82 ACRES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROADWAY, PARKING LOTS, SIDEWALKS, AND DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE POST OFFICE PROPERTY. 
          GOT A FIRST AND SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION, ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND. 
          SO MOVE SEVEN ZERO. 
          ALSO, MR. MAYOR, UM, I, UH, PROPOSED THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVE RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA, AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE THE PROPOSED CONTRACT FOR THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTIES LOCATED ON DILLON ROAD IN THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          SECOND. 
          GOT A FIRST AND A SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. 
          ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, WE BRING IT BACK. 
          ALL THOSE FAVOR. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MOVED. 
          SEVEN ZERO. 
          ANY OTHER BUSINESS? SEEING NONE. 
          MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          WE'RE ADJOURNED. 
          THIS IS NATALIE HEFTER 
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AND THIS IS YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT. 
          STARTING IN THE 1740S, INDIGO WAS INTRODUCED TO THE CAROLINAS. 
          ELIZA LUCAS AND ANDRE DEVOE ARE CREDITED WITH BRINGING THE PROCESS TO FRUITION HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 
          WHILE IT WASN'T INTRODUCED IN BEAUFORT COUNTY UNTIL THE 1750S, BY THEN, IT HAD ALREADY EXPANDED TO BE ONE OF SOUTH CAROLINA'S MOST IMPORTANT EXPORTS. 
          IN THE LATE 1740S, ENGLAND PASSED A BOUNTY ON CAROLINA INDIGO, WHICH GREATLY INCREASED PRODUCTION. 
          HERE, THE PROCESSING OF INDIGO INVOLVED A LONG, SEVERAL DAYS OF FERMENTING THE PLANT IN VATS OF URINE AND WATER. 
          ONCE THAT HAD HAPPENED, THEN THE DYE WAS LEFT OUT OF THE SOLUTION TO DRY PACKAGED UP IN BARRELS AND SHIPPED TO ENGLAND. 
          BY 1775, OVER 1 MILLION POUNDS OF INDIGO WAS EXPORTED FROM THE CAROLINAS BY 1802. 
          HOWEVER, THERE WAS NO LONGER AN EXPORT FOR INDIGO, AS MOST PLANTERS HAD TURNED THEIR EYES TOWARDS SEA ISLAND COTTON. 
          THIS IS NATALIE HEFTER FROM THE COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM, AND THIS HAS BEEN YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT. 
          TO SEE MORE BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENTS GO TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARY HOMEPAGE AND CLICK ON THE LOCAL HISTORY TAB.
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