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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY.
[1. Call to Order]
UH, PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ON PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.[3. Adoption of the Agenda]
OF THE AGENDA.ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? UH, COMMISSIONERS? ANY CHANGES? IF HEARING NONE, IS THERE A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR TODAY? SO MOVED.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR? IT'S UNANIMOUS.
[4.a. New Member Welcome - Mayor Alan Perry]
UH, SPECIAL, UH, WELCOME.WE HAVE, UM, MAYOR ALAN PERRY, WHO'S GOING TO JOIN US THIS MORNING, THIS AFTERNOON TO WELCOME OUR THREE NEW MEMBERS, MARGARET HEWITT, BILL REDMOND, AND JEFF TURNBULL.
IT'S, IT'S A PLEASURE TO, UH, TO BE HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS Y'ALL.
I KNOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN HERE LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS THE DAY AFTER WE ADOPTED OUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS, WHICH IS OUR GUIDING DOCUMENT.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION PLAYS A PIVOTAL ROLE IN HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AS A TOWN, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD IN MANAGING OUR GROWTH.
AND I WELCOME THE THREE NEW AND I WELCOME THE RETURNING MEMBERS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOUR ROLE IS VERY VITAL TO WHAT WE DO, AND I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT AS, AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR POSITION, GOD BLESS YOU.
UM, AND, AND THROUGH YOUR YOUR LEARNINGS, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER ONE THING, DON'T LET EMOTION DRIVE YOUR DECISION.
AND OFTEN WE SEE EMOTION STEPPING UP AND TAKING THE LEAD.
WE'VE MADE CHANGES TO THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
WE HAD SOME MORE CHANGES LAST NIGHT THAT WILL BE COMING FOR A SECOND READING.
PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE CHANGES AS, AS Y'ALL LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU.
AND AS YOU HAVE WELL, MEETINGS LIKE THIS TODAY, COUNCIL IS SET ON PROTECTING THE ISLAND AND THE GROWTH, MAKING CERTAIN THAT WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE AND OUR CHARACTER REMAINS INTACT.
WE ALSO ARE COMMITTED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE A WORKFORCE HERE THAT'S VERY PIVOTAL TO OUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
SO YOU HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT JOB IN FRONT OF Y'ALL.
UM, THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE A LOT OF CHANGES.
WE'RE GONNA BE CREATING A TASK FORCE WITH THE CHAIR OR HIS DESIGNEE FOR THE LMO REWRITE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE REWRITE.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE OTHER CHAIRS BE A PART OF THAT TASK FORCE AS WELL.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS AND WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS A LOT OF TOPICS, BUT WE'RE GONNA WRITE THE SHOW AND PUT SOME THINGS BACK IN THE BOTTLE THAT HAVE BEEN UNLEASHED WHERE GROWTH HAS GOTTEN OUT OF CONTROL.
AND IT'S GONNA START HERE WITH Y'ALL.
SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING OF YOUR TIME TO THIS COMMUNITY.
[5. Approval of the Minutes ]
UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 16TH MEETING? SO MOVED.THAT'S UNANIMOUS UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
THERE IS NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
[7.a. STDV-000661-2025 – Consideration of a Public Hearing for a street name request from Brendan Barr of One Street Residential proposing to name four new streets off Northpointe Circle. The affected parcels are identified on Beaufort County Tax Maps as Parcels R510 007 000 0121 0000, R510 007 000 0219 0000, R510 007 000 0228 0000, R510 007 000 0230 0000, R510 007 000 0231 0000, R510 007 000 0232 0000, R510 007 000 0233 0000, R510 007 000 0234 0000, R510 007 000 0235 0000, R510 007 000 0236 0000, R510 007 000 0237 0000, R510 007 000 0238 0000, R510 007 000 0239 0000, R510 007 000 0240 0000, R510 007 000 0241 0000, R510 007 000 0242 0000, R510 007 000 0243 0000, and R510 007 000 0265 0000. - Joheida Fister, Deputy Fire Chief]
NEW BUSINESS.UH, THE FIRST ITEM OF NEW BUSINESS ITEM A, UH, WILL BE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND A DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON A STREET NAME APPLICATION.
A MOTION AND VOTE BY THE COMMISSION ARE NEEDED.
SO ITEM A IS STDV TRIPLE 0 6 6 1 2 0 2 5.
CONSIDERATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING FOR A STREET NAME REQUEST FROM BRENDAN BARR OF ONE STREET RESIDENTIAL PROPOSING TO NAME FOUR NEW STREETS OFF NORTH POINT CIRCLE.
THE AFFECTED PARCELS ARE IDENTIFIED ON BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX MAPS
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AS INDICATED IN YOUR AGENDA.AND I'M GONNA DECLARE THIS AN OPEN, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.
AND INVITE, UH, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF JODA FISTER, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I AM THE DEPUTY, ONE OF THE DEPUTY CHIEFS AT FIRE RESCUE.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT ADDRESSING, UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER TO, BUT UM, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE, UH, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WONDER WHY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES THE STREET NAMING AND ADDRESSING.
AND, UM, IT IS BECAUSE IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS OUR 9 1 1, UM, RESPONSE.
SO WE HAVE OUR OWN 9 1 1 CENTER ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
UM, AND SO ANYTIME YOU CALL 9 1 1, IT COMES INTO OUR CENTER.
AND, UM, THERE THE ADDRESSING IS DONE IN WITH THE STANDARDS OF THE NATIONAL EMERGENCY NUMBERING ASSOCIATION.
SO THAT IS WHY STREET NAMING AND ADDRESSING GETS PRESENTED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE MAKE THE DECISIONS, UM, WE VET THEM, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, UH, CONTINUE TO HAVE DUPLICATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UM, AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE DUPLICATIONS, UM, WITHIN THE TOWN EITHER.
SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO LET KATHLEEN, UM, PRESENT THE STREET NAME.
MY NAME IS KATHLEEN LITCHFIELD.
I'M THE 9 1 1 COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.
AND GIVE YOU JUST A SECOND TO PULL THIS UP HERE.
SO WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW AND APPROVE FOR PROPOSED STREET NAMES THAT WILL BE MAKING UP THE NORTH POINT WORK COURSE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
THOSE STREET NAMES INCLUDE NORTH POINT CIRCLE, FAIRFIELD STATION, DUNBROOK COURT, AND IFF TRAIL.
UM, THEY WILL PROVIDE DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DWELL DWELLING UNITS LOCATED IN THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE'LL START WITH NORTH POINT CIRCLE.
UM, NORTH POINT CIRCLE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, SINCE THE 1980S WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, OVER TIME IT IS TRANSITION TO THE CURRENT VISION OF BEING WORKFORCE, WORKFORCE HOUSING, AND THAT NAME NORTH POINT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS.
IT MEETS THE CRITERION OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT'S NAME THAT HAS LONG BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARCEL.
AND WE'RE ALSO REMOVING THE E AT THE END OF NORTH POINT.
TO RECTIFY THE UNCONVENTIONAL SPELLING, IT'S JUST UNNECESSARY.
UM, THE NAME FAIRFIELD STATION THAT REFERS TO THE FAIRFIELD PLANTATION THAT WAS LOCATED WHERE THESE PARCELS ARE NOW LOCATED.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH, IT MEETS LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE HISTORY OF THE PARCEL.
AND ALSO IT HAP THIS FAIRFIELD STATION ROAD HAPPENS TO RUN IN FRONT OF THE FAIRFIELD STATION POST OFFICE.
DUNE BROOK COURT COMBINES THE IMAGERY OF THE SMALL DUNES FOUND ALONG THE OCEAN AND A FRESHWATER STREAM OR CREEK, ALSO KNOWN AS BROOK.
THIS MEETS THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT REFERS TO NATURAL FEATURES, UM, LOCATED ON THE LANDSCAPE.
UM, IT RUNS ALONG A BIOSWALE, I HAD TO GOOGLE THIS WORD MYSELF, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, IT'S KIND OF A MANMADE MARSHY AREA THAT'S A BUFFER TO A WETLAND AREA AND IT MEETS THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE 'CAUSE IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH NATURAL AND MANMADE FEATURES WITHIN THE PARCEL.
SO, UM, I USED MY VERY POOR PAINT SKILLS TO TRY TO GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEA HERE OF WHERE EXACTLY THIS IS GOING TO BE LOCATED.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS BUILDING TWO 13, THAT IS THE LOCATION OF THE POST OFFICE ON THE NORTH END OF THE ISLAND.
TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE, HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPERS THAT SHOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE LOCATED.
AND HERE IS THE SITE PLAN WITH THE FOUR DIFFERENT STREETS.
YOU CAN SEE FAIRFIELD STATION HERE, NORTH POINT CIRCLE, WHICH WILL BE THE MAIN ROAD RUNNING THROUGH HERE, FCL TRAIL AND ALSO DUNE BROOK COURT OVER ON THIS SIDE, UH, NORTH POINT
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CIRCLE, FAIRFIELD STATION, DUNE BROOK COURT, AND FCL TRAIL.ALL, UM, MEET THE CRITERIA SET OUT BY THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE.
WE VETTED IT, UM, AND WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU ACCEPT THESE TREAT NAMES.
DOES, DO ANY OF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? INVITE THE, UM, THE PUBLIC, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE BRING IT UP HERE.
COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? SO, MR. LOBO, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NAMES AS SUBMITTED.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE NAMES AS SUBMITTED AND I'LL SECOND AND NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
KATHLEEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[7.b. Public Hearing for Consideration of an Ordinance of the Town of Hilton Head Island to Amend Title 16 of the Municipal Code, the Land Management Ordinance, to Amend Sections 16-3-105.H, 16-4-102.A.6, 16-4-105, and 16-4- 102.B.1 to allow residential Workforce Housing within the Medical (MED) Zoning District. - Shawn Leininger, Assistant Town Manager]
ITEM OF NEW BUSINESS WILL BE FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION.YOU'LL RECALL THAT LAST MONTH, UH, WE RECOMMENDED TO STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THIS LMO TEXT AMENDMENT.
AND WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK HERE.
STAFF IS BRINGING IT BACK HERE, UH, FOR OUR REVIEW.
SO AT THIS POINT, UH, OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE, UH, DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC INITIATIVES, BEN BROWN FOR THE PRESENTATION.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY.
THE LAST OPPORTUNITY I HAD TO SUPPORT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS BACK IN MARCH.
THAT WAS WHEN WE PROPOSED THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AS WELL AS THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE NORTH POINT INITIATIVE.
AND IN LARGE PART, MY ORIGINAL INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS APPLICATION GOES BACK TO THE WORK THAT THE TOWN HAD BEEN DOING WITH NORTH POINT.
JOEL TAYLOR, THE CEO OF THE HOSPITAL REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO AND WAS ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE TOWN IS ADDRESSING WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS FROM JOEL WAS THAT HE AND HIS TEAM WERE HAVING A LOT OF CHALLENGES RECRUITING, UH, TRAINED FOLKS TO SERVE THE HOSPITAL.
AND HE ALSO EXPLAINED THAT THEY HAD SOME ABANDONED OFFICES ON THE HOSPITAL'S CAMPUS, UM, BETHEA DRIVE.
AND THESE ARE THE OFFICES THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING VACANT SINCE 2016 SINCE, UH, HURRICANE MATTHEW.
AND THE QUESTION WAS, COULD THESE OFFICES BE REPURPOSED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING? AND THE, UH, THE, AS THE CHAIRMAN HAD MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING, THE APPLICANT HAD ASKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION BE INTERESTED IN ADVANCING A TEXT AMENDMENT APPLICATION? BECAUSE AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS REQUIRES BOTH AN AMENDMENT TO THE TEXT OF THE LMO, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN JUST A SECOND, AS WELL AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE MAP.
AND THE MAP IS THE PD TWO OVERLAY AS PART OF THE, UH, THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE HOSPITAL CAMPUS.
SO WE'RE GONNA BREAK THIS SOMETHING UP INTO TWO SECTIONS.
AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE A, UH, A THOROUGH REPORT ON THE ZMA PORTION.
AND I'M GOING TO TEE IT UP BY TALKING ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT, THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT.
AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, SEAN LINEER WAS IN FRONT OF YOU LAST MONTH, AND, UH, TALKED ABOUT ADDRESSING THE SHORTAGE OF HOUSING FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS, HEALTHCARE FIRST RESPONDERS, SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND A WHOLE LOT MORE.
AND TO ALLOW WORKFORCE HOUSING AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT CURRENTLY.
AND THIS WAS DISCUSSED BRIEFLY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE LMO THAT WOULD ALLOW WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, BUT IT'S ONLY BY THE CONVERSION.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONVERT THE EXISTING BUILDINGS INTO WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND THAT DOESN'T WORK ON THIS PROPERTY FOR A FEW REASONS.
IN LARGE PART IS THE EXISTING CONDITION OF THE BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS THAT FORMULA FOR CONVERSION JUST REALLY ISN'T FEASIBLE FOR THE SITE.
AND YOU WERE, YOU ASKED US AT THE LAST MEETING TO SHARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS, AND I'LL SHOW THOSE TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE.
THOSE WERE ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE EXISTING MEDICAL PURPOSE, THE HOSPITAL, THE CLINICS, THE RELATED SERVICES.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAS COME UP RECENTLY IS, OKAY, IF HOUSING IS ALLOWED IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, IF WORKFORCE HOUSING IS ALLOWED IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT, IS THAT GONNA PUSH OUT ANY OF THE MEDICAL USES? AND THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED, AND THIS SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR AFTER WE GO THROUGH THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AS WELL AS THE ZMA AMENDMENT, BUT THIS IS A TWO PART CONCURRENT PROCESS.
WE HAVE TO, TO AMEND THE TEXT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO AMEND THE MAP.
AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY A BELT AND SUSPENDERS APPROACH WHERE IF THIS WERE SUCCESSFUL, THIS IS ONLY
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ALLOWING WORKFORCE HOUSING ON THE 12.6 ACRES THAT, THAT WE'LL DISCUSS TODAY.HERE'S THE, THE PARCEL AND IT IS 1, 2, 3 PARCELS.
I THINK WE ALL KNOW THE LOCATION.
WE HAVE SOME MORE MAPS AS THE PRESENTATION GOES ON TODAY.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY.
AND RIGHT HERE IS THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING.
THESE ARE THE, UH, THE OUTPATIENT BUILDINGS.
IT'S ABOUT 24,000 SQUARE FEET.
THERE'S SOME EXISTING PHOTOGRAPHS.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S, UH, NOW WE WOULDN'T SUSPECT FROM SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ABANDONED SINCE 2016.
WE CAN SEE THAT AS WE SAW ON THE VICINITY MAP, WE HAVE, UH, HILTON HAD PLANTATION TO GO BACK TO THE MAP THAT'S HERE ON OUR NORTHWEST.
WE HAVE MAIN STREET TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
AND THIS IS UP ON THE SCREEN MORE FOR ILLUSTRATOR PURPOSES THAN TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO READ THEM.
BUT IN YOUR STAFF REPORTS, WE HAVE THE, THE ACTUAL AMENDMENTS, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THESE RELATIVELY QUICKLY AND SLOW DOWN WHEREVER THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS QUESTIONS.
AND I KNOW THE, UM, THE CHAIRMAN WILL HAVE A, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AS WELL AS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
AND WE'LL TALK THROUGH WHAT THE ACTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS IN, IN JUST A MOMENT.
BUT THE, UH, FIRST AMENDMENTS IS TO CLEARLY ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
RIGHT NOW, IT IS ONLY BY COMMERCIAL CONVERSION, WHICH HAS A FORMULA FOR COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL CONVERSION.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WORKFORCE HOUSING, THERE NEEDS TO BE A DENSITY IN PLACE TO, TO CALIBRATE THAT.
AND THE PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED DENSITY, AND THIS CAME FROM THE APPLICANT, IS 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT NORTH POINT, THAT WAS ULTIMATELY 14 UNITS ACRE.
AND THE, THE, THE AMENDMENT WAS NOT TO EXCEED 15 UNITS PER AC, BUT WE CALIBRATED THAT THAT WAS BASED ON A VARIETY OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE, MOSTLY TWO AND THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
AND THAT'S ALSO ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL BETHEA DRIVE IS NOT A BUSY ROAD.
SO THE 10 UNITS PER ACRE IS A MORE APPROPRIATE CALIBRATION FOR THIS LOCATION.
WE HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE TEXT THAT WOULD CLEARLY ALLOWED IF PERMITTED THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE, AND I OPEN THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
I KNOW YOU, YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS YOU'RE READING THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT, BUT I WILL READ A FEW OF THESE AMENDMENTS WITH THE GOAL OF, UH, STARTING SOME DISCUSSION.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, UH, UNDER RESIDENTIAL USES FOR MIXED USE, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN THE MED DISTRICT SHALL BE PERMITTED EITHER AS PART OF A COMMERCIAL CONVERSION THAT INCLUDES WORKFORCE HOUSING OR PD TWO DISTRICT OVERLAY.
THAT INCLUDES WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO IT'S, IT'S THE TWO, IT'S EITHER COMMERCIAL CONVERSION OR IT'S PART OF THAT PD TWO MASTER PLAN.
THE NEXT SECTION, MULTIFAMILY USE IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED EITHER AS PART OF A COMMERCIAL CONVERSION THAT INCLUDES WORKFORCE HOUSING OR PART OF A PD TWO DISTRICT OVERLAY THAT INCLUDES WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THE LAST SECTION IN THIS, IN THIS AREA, IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT PROPERTIES DEVELOPED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING SHALL ONLY BE PERMITTED EITHER AS PART OF A COMMERCIAL CONVERSION THAT INCLUDES WORKFORCE HOUSING OR AS PART OF A PD TWO DISTRICT.
THAT INCLUDES WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THE LAST SECTION IS THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROGRAM.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT STAFF HAD RECEIVED AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
IF WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS NOT PART OF A COMMERCIAL CONVERSION, THEN THE MAXIMUM DENSITY IN ANY WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS 10 UNITS PER ACRE.
IF AT LEAST 30% OF ALL UNITS WITHIN THE IN THE DEVELOPMENT ARE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I CAN CONTINUE GOING, I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.
IT'S WHATEVER, UH, BEST SUPPORTS YOU IN, IN YOUR COMMISSION.
UH, WHY DON'T YOU CONTINUE? YES, SIR.
QUESTIONS AT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION? THEN THE NEXT
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PORTION IS, IS THIS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CRITERIA IN THE LAND MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE? I WON'T READ THIS TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND, UH, I KNOW EVERYONE HAS ALREADY REVIEWED THIS CRITERIA.THE FINDINGS, UH, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THIS IS IN SUPPORT OF THE CRITERIA.
IT SUPPORTS THE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND HOUSING GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN RESPONSE TO CHANGING CONDITIONS BY ALIGNING DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS WITH STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.
ADDRESSES A DEMONSTRATED COMMUNITY NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, UPHOLDS THE INTENT OF ZONING REGULATIONS BY ALLOWING REASONABLE LIMITED INCREASES IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WHEN CONSISTENT WITH TOWN GOALS AND ENSURES WORKFORCE HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE MED DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE AND COMPATIBLE LOCATIONS.
AND, UM, THIS, THIS GOES BACK TO, IT'S NOT ALLOWED EVERYWHERE WITHIN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
IF THIS AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, IF THE CORRESPONDING ZMA IS APPROVED, IT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED ON THE SITE THAT WE'RE GONNA REVIEW IN, IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
AS PART OF THE ZMA TODAY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS.
UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO TOWN COUNCIL, RECOMMEND DENIAL TO TOWN COUNCIL, RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OF TOWN COUNCIL OR POSTPONE ACTION TO A SPECIFIC DATE AND TIME.
UH, THESE, THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOLLOW ONE OF THE FOUR.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, UH, TO SEEK SOME, SOME DISCUSSION AMONGST YOURSELF BEFORE, UH, DECIDING WHICH AVENUE YOU WANT TO PURSUE.
THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INVITE PUBLIC COMMENT ON, ON THIS SECTION OF NEW BUSINESS.
UM, WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, BUT THEY JUST IN GENERAL WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS HOUSING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TAKE THEM NOW OR AFTER THE NEXT ONE.
WELL, UM, THE NEXT ONE IS RELATED TO THIS ONE, SO PERHAPS WE'LL JUST WAIT AND, AND, UH, OKAY.
AT THAT TIME, SO THIS TIME I'LL TURN IT BACK UP TO THE DAIS.
ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ON, ON THIS ITEM? I, I NOTICED THAT MR. BROWN PUT ANOTHER, UM, MEMO OUT TO PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, ASKING US TO POTENTIALLY POSTPONE THE ACTION ON ZMA UNTIL SEPTEMBER 17TH AND LISTING A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT HE BELIEVES FURTHER DETAIL WAS, UH, WAS REQUIRED.
I WAS WONDERING IF WE MIGHT HAVE HIM DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THOSE POINTS.
UH, THE BULK OF THE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF HAS BEEN RECEIVING ARE MORE ASSOCIATED WITH THE, THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
HOWEVER, WITH RESPECT TO THE TEXT AMENDMENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE, THE IMPACT OF THE AMENDMENT.
AND ALSO THAT, UH, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE ZMA, I WOULDN'T ADVANCE THE TEXT AMENDMENT SEPARATELY.
I WOULD KEEP THE, THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER.
AND IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO DELAY ACTION ON THE ZMA UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, WHEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING OPENS UP, I I WOULD KEEP THE TWO APPLICATIONS TOGETHER, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH RESPECT TO, TO ANY OF THESE AMENDMENTS, WE HAVE THOSE ADDRESSED AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE ARE REVIEWING THE ZMA.
I THINK THIS QUESTION'S GONNA BE FOR YOU TOO.
SO IF WE GO LOOK AT THE, UM, CURRENT TEXT AMENDMENT, UM, UNDER ALLOWABLE PRINCIPLE USES, UH, RIGHT NOW, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THIS, THESE THREE PARCELS REMAIN FLEXIBLE FOR THINGS OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL? OR ARE WE SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE GOING TO NOW COMMIT TO RESIDENTIAL THERE AND THAT'S IT IN PERPETUITY, THE WAY IN WHICH THE TEXT AMENDMENT'S DRAFTED, WE CAN MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT IS ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL AS IT'S DRAFTED NOW.
IT WOULD BE EITHER RESIDENTIAL OR, UM, MEDICAL RELATED USES.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAY MEDICAL RELATED USES, CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? IN THE, IN THE PD TWO MASTER PLAN, IT REFERS TO MEDICAL RELATED USES.
AND UH, CLEARLY THE OUTPATIENT OFFICES ARE MEDICALLY RELATED USE.
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THE MAPS WE PRESENTED THE LAST TIME, WE'RE BASICALLY USING EVERY BUILDABLE PORTION FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.SO WHY WOULD THERE BE ANY NEED FOR MEDICAL USE ON THOSE THREE PARCELS IF WE'RE COMMITTING THEM TO WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL USE, BASICALLY? YEAH.
GOING BACK TO THE MAP HERE, IF, IF IT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ONLY ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USES ON THIS, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY CRAFT THAT LANGUAGE TO SUPPORT THAT.
WELL I GUESS THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS WHAT'S THE VALUE TO THE TOWN? I CAN UNDERSTAND THE VALUE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER IN, YOU KNOW, IN 20 OR 30 YEARS, IF THE BUILDING ISN'T MAINTAINED, THEY CAN ALWAYS CONVERT IT BACK TO MEDICAL USES.
BUT WHAT'S THE VALUE TO THE TOWN IN AND ITS, UH, RESIDENCE TO GOING TO NOT MAKING A FULLTHROATED COMMITMENT TO THIS BEING RESIDENTIAL AND THAT'S THE END OF IT.
NOT TURNING IT TO COMMERCIAL BACKED UP AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THE, THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF OFF HAND IS IF THE, UH, APPLICANT DID NOT ADVANCE THE HOUSING, IT WOULD STILL LEAVE THAT DOOR OPEN FOR THE HOSPITAL TO, UH, TO PUT OFFICES ON THAT SITE.
AND WHAT THIS APPLICATION IS PROPOSING IS NOT TO PROHIBIT THAT, BUT ALSO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL ON SITE.
AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS TO PUT ALL RESIDENTIAL ON THE SITE RIGHT NOW BY RIGHT.
THE TEXT WOULD ALLOW OFFICES ON THERE THAT, THAT'S NOT CHANGING.
IT STILL WILL ALLOW OFFICES ON THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING CURRENTLY.
IT DOES NOT ALLOW HOUSING AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
I GUESS I, AGAIN, FROM A RESIDENTS PERSPECTIVE, IF WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS EFFORT AND REALLY SORT OF SWITCH THIS UP TO A MUCH MORE INTENSE USE THAN IT'S EVER BEEN AND THIS, THIS WASN'T ABANDONED IN 2016 'CAUSE I PERSONALLY WAS THERE IN 2021 USING THE FACILITY.
SO IT WASN'T ABANDONED IN 2016, BUT THERE ARE HILTON HEAD PLANTATIONS UP AGAINST IT.
UM, AND WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THIS PROJECT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THEY COULD GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP IT BY RIGHT AS MEDIC, YOU KNOW, RENOVATE IT AND TEAR DOWN THE BUILDINGS TO DO MEDICAL OFFICES.
IS THAT CORRECT? TODAY BY RIGHT.
YES, THEY COULD, THEY COULD RENOVATE THE SITE FROM MEDICAL OFFICES.
AND ALSO UNDER THE WAY THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, IN 10 OR 15 YEARS, IF SOMETHING SHOULD BLOW UP AND THE WORKFORCE HOUSING WAS NO LONGER A STRUCTURE THAT'S DESIRABLE, THEY COULD TURN THAT BUILDING INTO MEDICAL FACILITIES OR OFFICES OR WHATEVER THEY WANTED.
ANYONE ELSE? I'M JUST GONNA ADD ON COMMENT.
I'M JUST GONNA ADD A COMMENT THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I SEE THAT AS JUST AT KEEPING FLEXIBILITY THERE TO KEEP BOTH, UH, POSSIBILITIES SO THAT IF FOR SOME REASON 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD THE BUILDINGS BECOME DERELICT AND GET KNOCKED DOWN, THEN BECAUSE THAT WHOLE REGION IS STILL MEDICAL, IT WOULD GIVE FLEXIBILITY TO EITHER BUILD NEW WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS IN THAT SPOT OR MEDICAL IN THAT SPOT, WHICH IS STILL A DESIGNATED MEDICAL AREA, IS THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT.
UM, COULD YOU, UM, GO BACK TO OUR OPTIONS, OUR VOTING OPTIONS SLIDE? OKAY.
I THINK IT, UM, WHAT I HEARD MR. BROWN SAY IS THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND THE MAP AMENDMENT, UH, COINCIDING WITH EACH OTHER.
IT'S, IT'S LIKELY THAT WILL, THE ADVICE FOR THE MAP AMENDMENT WILL BE TO DELAY UNTIL, UH, NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
UM, SO, SO GIVEN THAT, GIVEN THAT PIECE OF ADVICE, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE, UH, NEW BUSINESS AT HAND? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I THINK WE GIVEN THAT, THAT, GIVEN THAT, UH, WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE SHOULD NOT CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL SEPTEMBER 17TH, THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
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I PHRASED THE MOTION.I I WOULD EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO SAY SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2005 AT TWO 2025.
SECOND COURT'S, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND STAY UP HERE FOR WHAT'S NEXT.
[7.c. Public Hearing for Consideration of an Ordinance of the Town of Hilton Head Island to Amend the Official Zoning Map with Respect to the Real Property located at Bethea Drive to Amend the Palmetto Headlands/H.H. Hospital Master Plan within the Planned Development Overlay District (PD-2) for Beaufort County Tax Map Parcels R510 008 000 337A 0000, R510 008 000 0337 0000 and R510 008 000 0452 0000 to change the allocated uses from Commercial Use to Commercial or Residential Use and to Provide for Severability and an Effective Date. - Shawn Leininger, Assistant Town Manager]
C WILL BE AGAIN FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.SO THIS, THIS ITEM IS FOR CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP WITH RESPECT TO THE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT BETHE DRIVE.
TO AMEND THE PALMETTO HEADLANDS SLASH HH HOSPITAL MASTER PLAN WITHIN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT OVERLAID DISTRICT PD TWO FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX MAP PARCELS, R 5 10 0 0 8, TRIPLE 0 3 3 7 A 0 0 0 0.
AND R 5 10 0 0 8 TRIPLE 0 0 3 3 7 0 0 0 0 AND R 5 10 0 0 8 0 0 4 5 2 0 0 0 0 TO CHANGE THE ALLOCATED USES FROM COMMERCIAL USE TO COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL USE AND TO PROVIDE FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
UH, THIS IS NOW OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING AND UH, MR. BROWN FLOOR IS YOURS.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UM, IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE NORCO INITIATIVE AND AS THE TOWN HAS BEEN RECRUITING TO FILL OUR OPEN PLANNING DIRECTOR POSITION, I'VE BEEN RECEIVING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AS WELL AS THE CORRESPONDING ZMA.
SO I AM HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THE TEXT AMENDMENTS FAIRLY QUICKLY 'CAUSE IT'S HARD TO COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE FULL STORY WITHOUT SEEING THE, THE TWO TOGETHER.
AND THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS ARE LINKED.
THE TEXT AMENDMENT ALLOWS WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE MEDICAL DISTRICT.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THE ZMA.
THE PD TWO MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT APPLIES TO THE SUBJECT PARCELS AND ALLOWS EITHER, AS WE DISCUSSED, MEDICAL OR RESIDENTIAL USES.
CURRENTLY IT ONLY ALLOWS FOR THOSE MEDICAL RELATED USES STAFF.
THE PLANNING STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER A MAP HERE TO SHOW THE VARIOUS USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN THE, UH, PD TWO OVERLAY.
AND THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AMENDMENT TO THE PALMETTO HEADLANDS AND HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL PD TWO MASTER PLAN FOR THE 12.6 ACRES.
THE CURRENT MEDICAL ZONING WITHIN THE PD TWO OVERLAY ONLY ALLOWS MEDICAL RELATED USES.
THE PROPOSAL WOULD ADD RESIDENTIAL USES INCLUDING WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR ESSENTIAL WORK FOR WORK WORKERS APPROVAL DEPENDS ON THE COMPANION TAX AMENDMENT TO THE MED DISTRICT AND WHAT STAFF HAS IS REQUESTING TODAY, AND THIS IS WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION POSTPONE ACTION UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER MEETING IS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON DESIGN STANDARDS SUCH AS SITE LAYOUT, BUFFERING CIRCULATION, INFRASTRUCTURE, ARCHITECTURE, AND OPEN SPACE.
AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO THIS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS IN, IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
AND THE GOAL OF TODAY IS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ASK QUESTIONS, PROVIDE FEEDBACK, AND BE IN A POSITION TO TAKE ACTION AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
THIS IS WHERE THE ADDITIONAL DETAILS ARE INCLUDED AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT PLANS TO ADDRESS THESE TODAY.
AND, UH, AS WE DISCUSSED, IT IS GOING TO BE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO POSTPONE ACTION UNTIL THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
BUT I'M REALLY HOPING THAT BASED ON TODAY'S DISCUSSION, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED, THE PUBLIC'S QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED AND THE APPLICANT WILL RECEIVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT'S ASKED OF THEM BEFORE THIS SEPTEMBER MEETING.
THE THAT ENDS MY PORTION OF THE ZMA APPLICATION.
AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR.
I KNOW ALSO THE APPLICANT IS, IS GONNA MAKE A PRESENTATION.
WE'LL START WITH THE APPLICANT.
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GIVE US A TO GET SORTED HERE.UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNSEL, UM, TOWN MANAGER MAYOR, WHAT'S YOUR REPORT? UM, AND, UM, FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY AGAIN, AND I WOULD BE REMISS TO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, THE STAFF AS WELL.
WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD SINCE, UH, THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND HAVE HAD TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FROM THE LIKES OF BEN, SEAN, SEAN, MICHAEL, UH, TREY, NICK DAY, MICHAEL RYAN AND MICHELLE, AND MANY OTHERS.
BUT JUST, IT'S BEEN A VERY COLLABORATIVE, WONDERFUL PROCESS.
AT THE SAME TIME, WHILE THEY WERE ALSO ENTERTAINING A MASSIVE PROJECT, WHICH OF NORTH POINT, WHICH WE ARE SO IMPRESSED BY, UM, TO THE TEAM AND THE TOWN, ANYONE THAT'S HERE IS A WONDERFUL EXECUTION.
WE KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS AND, AND THE PATIENCE AND EXCELLENCE THAT THAT'S WENT THROUGH.
UM, APPLAUD TO THAT TEAM AS WELL.
UH, FOR THOSE THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN HERE AT LAST, UH, OUR LAST MEETING, CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? ABSOLUTELY, YES.
UH, MY NAME IS KEITH KRESKY AND BRIAN, MY PARTNER BRIAN QUINN.
UM, WE ARE HERE WITH OUR PARTNERS, CCDC AND NOVANT HEALTH.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW THOSE FAMILIAR NAMES, UM, TOGETHER WE ARE LIKE A SECOND CLICK THROUGH HERE.
UM, I WANT TO QUICKLY WALK THROUGH A QUICK AGENDA HERE WHILE WE'RE REDUCING OUR TEAM.
UM, THE TEAM HERE IS PROPOSING, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE, THE LAND OWNER IS NOVA HEALTH AVOIDABLE SERVICE AS A DEVELOPER AND CCDC AS A CRITICAL PARTNER IN A JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS.
CCDC WILL ALSO SERVE AS THE PROPERTY MANAGER AND OPERATIONS.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL.
JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT A BIT.
SO JUST FOR THE QUICK, THIS IS NOT AS LONG AS IT LOOKS.
UM, JUST WANTED TO WALK THROUGH.
WE WANNA DO AN INTRODUCTION TO TEAM WALK THROUGH FORMALLY WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
SO MR. BROWN MENTIONED ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT.
WE WANT TO DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE ZMA AND I KNOW, UM, MR. REDMOND, YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE MEMO THAT CAME OUT WITH REGARDS TO A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS WITH YOU AND ALSO POINT OUT WHERE THOSE WERE IN OUR INITIAL APPLICATION AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANNA TAKE A MINUTE TO DO THAT.
WE ALSO WANT TO DISCUSS OUR COMPLIANCE WITH THE WORKHOUSE WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK, UM, AND THEN DO A QUICK PROPOSED OVERVIEW OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR, OUR FRIEND, UH, MR. TAYLOR FROM NOTE ON HEALTH AND THEN TALK THROUGH, UM, AND HAVE OUR FRIENDS FROM CCDC HAVE A FEW MINUTES AS WELL.
DOES THAT WORK FOR THE GROUP? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
SO JUST A QUICK, WE TALKED THROUGH THIS QUITE A BIT, BUT THE TEAM IS NOVAN HEALTH ABOUT NCDC.
UM, WE WALKED THROUGH THAT A BIT.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOW LOW COUNTRY, AS WELL AS THE LOW CO FUND AS PART OF OUR PRE-DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THIS ENGAGEMENT.
SO JUST TO REVIEW AGAIN, FOR CONSIDERATION, I WANNA FOCUS, FOCUS THIS ON THE ZMA, THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR PARCELS IN THE PD TWO OVERLAY AT PALMETTO HEADLANDS AND HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL.
UM, THE, THE CHANGES NEEDED, AS WE MENTIONED, AGAIN HERE, I DON'T WANNA REPEAT MYSELF, TO ALLOW NEW CONSTRUCTION OF MULTI MULTIFAMILY WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH IS CURRENTLY LIMITED TO COMMERCIAL DIVERSION.
WHY DOES THIS MATTER? WE, AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, IN MANY TIMES IN THIS ROOM AND THROUGHOUT THE PUBLIC, WE ADDRESS THE NEED FOR THE CRITICAL, UH, THE CRITICAL NEED FOR ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
UM, IT DIRECTLY SUPPORTS NOVANT HEALTH, UM, A WONDERFUL PROVIDER OF CRITICAL HEALTH SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IT DOES ALIGN WITH VERY WELL WITH THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND FIRST HOUSING FRAMEWORK.
OUR COMMITMENT BACK TO YOU ALL, THE TOWN AND THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE WILL EXCEED MASS AND SCALE AND AESTHETIC STANDARDS FOR COMPATIBILITY WITHIN THE ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S NOT A SPECULATIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT SUPPORTS ESSENTIAL WORKERS AND HOSPITAL OPERATIONS.
AND VIA CCDC, THIS IS A VERY LONG TERM EFFORT WITH CCDC, WHICH HAS A NINE NINE YEAR COMMITMENT TO HELPING SUPPORT WORKFORCE HOUSING ON THE ISLAND AND THROUGHOUT JASPER AND BEAVER COUNTIES.
THIS HAS A VERY, BEEN A VERY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WITH THE TOWN AND MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, AS WENDY MENTIONED.
AND THEN IT'S A VERY SUSTAINABLE DESIGN, EXPLORING RENEWABLE ENERGY AND HIGH QUALITY BUILDS THAT ARE UP TO MODERN DAY STANDARDS TO COMPLY WITH SOME OF THE CHANGING WEATHER PATTERNS THAT WE DO HAVE.
AND SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY, FACE HERE IN HILLHEAD.
SOME OF THE, UM, HOT SPOTS ON, ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, WE ARE PROPOSING 126 UNITS ON 12.6 ACRES.
UM, ONLY FIVE AND A HALF OF THOSE ACRES ARE DEVELOPABLE.
SO ABOUT SEVEN ACRES WILL BE REMAINED WETLANDS AND GREEN SPACE.
UM, THERE'LL BE A MIX OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS.
WE HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT FOR 30% OF THOSE UNITS TO BE OUT OR BELOW THE 80% A MI LEVEL, AND ONE THIRD OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE RESERVED FOR HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL
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EMPLOYEES.WE ANTICIPATE GROWTH AND THE CHANGE IN NEEDS, AND ALSO HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL WILL HAVE A RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL AS LEASES TURN OVER.
SO AS THEIR NEEDS CHANGE AND AS THEIR WORKFORCE, THEY WILL BE THE FIRST IN LINE FOR THOSE.
OUR PROJECTED GRANTS TO RANGE FROM 1600 TO 3,500.
THAT 3,500 NUMBER IS REFLECTIVE OF THE, OF THE THREE BEDROOMS. SO TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, THAT SIZE, UM, WE'LL HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER, A POOL, SMALL POOL, GREEN SPACE, VERY HEAVY LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, WHICH WE'LL DIVE IN DEEPER TO.
AND THEN INTERCONNECTED PATHWAYS, WHICH ALSO HAS A VERY PLACE TO THE WELL, TO THE INTERCONNECTED COMMUNITY TO WHERE MANY OF THESE WORKERS WILL BE, UM, EMPLOYED OR RESIDENTS WILL BE EMPLOYED, UM, WILL BE ENGINEERED TO MEET 2023 STORMWATER STANDARDS AND EXCEED THOSE D GUIDE GUIDELINES, WHICH BRIAN WILL TALK TO LATER.
AND THEN WE WILL BE AT IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE OF GREATER THAN 30%, WHICH, UM, IS A HIGH QUALITY STANDARD COMPARED TO RECENT DEVELOPMENTS.
SO I'LL START HERE WITH THE COMMITMENT TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK.
UM, THERE ARE FOUR KEY TENETS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO.
UM, A THAT WE ARE RESERVING 30% OF UNITS COMMITTED TO, UM, AT OR BELOW 80% OF A MI, UM, NO, NO ABOUT HOUSE PRIORITY.
WE'RE REALLY A STRONG FOCUS ON THE WORKING MIDDLE, THE WORKFORCE RATE BALANCING.
SO WE HAVE MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING.
REALLY THE SWEET SPOT OF THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT WILL BE FOCUSED ON THAT 80 TO 120% A MI WHERE WE HAVE SO MANY OF OUR WORKERS AND EDUCATORS, HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS, SERVICE WORKERS, MANY STAFF THAT WORK AT THE TOWN AND OTHER SUPPORT AGENCIES THAT REALLY ARE, ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND PLACES TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK AND TO REALLY HELP BUILD THAT CULTURE OF COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY AS A COMMERCIAL PARTNER, BUT ALSO A RESIDENT OF THE ISLAND.
AND THEN LOCAL WORKER PREFERENCE.
SO AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, AS THE TENANT OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK IS LOCAL RESIDENCY AND CCDC AS THE PROPERTY MANAGER WILL ENFORCE INCOME RESIDENCY AND LOCAL WORKER PREFERENCE PROVISIONS TO ENSURE THAT ALL UNITS ARE PRIORITIZED FOR HILL MEDICAL, UM, ESSENTIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER WITH REGARDS TO THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK? CAN I ASK ONE? UM, SO I GUESS THE ONE QUESTION IS UNDER WORKFORCE RATE BALANCE, UM, YOU TALK ABOUT THE OTHER 70%, I BELIEVE, UM, BEING UP TO OR NEAR THE ONE 20, BUT IT DOES SAY MAINTAINING A MIX FOR THE ISLAND'S WORKFORCE.
SO ARE WE SAYING THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THESE UNITS WILL BE FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND WORKERS? WE'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT 30% WILL HAVE THAT INCOME, VER THAT, UM, EMPLOYMENT VERIFICATION AS PART OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING FRAMEWORK? WE HAVE NOT, WE, WE WANT IT TO BE EMPLOYMENT VERIFICATION AS MANY STANDARD LEASES DO.
UM, THIS IS DESIGNED FOR ACTIVE WORKERS IN THE COMMUNITY, SO THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING TO, UM, IT IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE, UH, A RETIREMENT FAC RETIREMENT COMPLEX.
IT'S DESIGNED FOR ACTIVE WORKERS.
SO, AND CCDC CAN CAN COMMENT THAT AS WELL, BUT PART OF THAT LEASE WILL HAVE AN EMPLOYMENT VERIFICATION.
BUT WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS, SO WILL THAT OTHER 70% BE FOR WORKERS WHO WORK ON THIS ISLAND VERSUS BLUFFTON, OKEE BUFORD? THAT, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
WE WILL HAVE PRIORITIZED PRIORITY FOR HILTON HEAD RESIDENTS.
UM, IT DOES MAKE IT FOR, UM, CHALLENGING FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS WE DO HAVE TO LIMIT ONLY TO HILTON HEAD.
THERE WILL BE PREFERENCE THE WORK, THE WORKFORCE HOUSING REQUIREMENT THAT 30% WILL MEET THAT.
UM, WE CAN DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE, THE, THE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
UM, IT WAS A RECENT POINT BROUGHT UP, UP TO US THIS WEEK, SO I WANT, I WANT TO DIVE INTO THAT.
UM, NOT SAYING NO TO THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS WITH, WITH THE TEAM.
ANY OTHER, I HAVE ONE, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? SURE.
CAN YOU SPEAK UP? SORRY, I WENT FORWARD.
ONE, ONE OF YOUR SLIDES INDICATED THAT, THAT ONE THIRD OF THESE UNITS WOULD BE FOR HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL EMPLOYEES.
I AM, IT IS ONLY GOING ONE DIRECTION.
I'M PRETTY SURE I SAW ONE OF YOUR SLIDES SAID THAT ONE THIRD OF THESE UNITS YES, WOULD GO TO HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL EMPLOYEES.
SO JUST LOOKING AT THE 30% REQUIREMENT FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, THOSE EMPLOYEES WOULD BE THAT ENTIRETY OF THE 30% SET.
NO, THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'LL, WE'LL CLARIFY THAT POINT.
THE, THE NOVANT HEALTH EMPLOYEES WILL BE, UH, THEY'RE JUST COMMITTING TO THAT NUMBER TO START.
UM, BUT OUR, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE JUST AN 80% A MI, THEY HAVE WORKERS ACROSS ALL INCOME BANDS, LEVELS OF EMPLOYMENT, SO FROM, FROM PHYSICIANS, TECHNICIANS, NURSES, UM, MANAGERS, AND OTHER STAFF.
I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR JOEL ON THAT ONE, BUT IT WILL BE ACROSS, AGAIN, UM, WE WILL HAVE, SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR THAT NEIGHBOR.
SO WE DID, WE DID CHANGE SOME OF THE
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WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH 30% BEING 30%, BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE GOAL.I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO TRY TO THE EXTENT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT, TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE UNITS COULD BE AVAILABLE TO OTHER EMPLOYERS ON THE ISLAND, POTENTIALLY 70.
WELL, OF THE 80% A MI OR IS THAT OF THE WORKFORCE HOUSING DEDICATED UNITS.
I THINK THAT'S HARD FOR US TO PINPOINT THE EXACT NUMBER NOW.
BUT I, I WILL SAY, UM, AND MAYBE MR. TAYLOR CAN SPEAK TO AS WELL, THE, THE EFFORTS OF THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR NOVANT IS ACROSS THEIR EMPLOYEES.
IF WE LOOK AT THAT A MI RESTRICTION THAT A MI RATE, WHICH I CAN GET TO IT WITHOUT SCREWING UP THE PRESENTATION HERE, UM, MAYBE I'LL GET TO WHEN WE GET TO THIS AS WELL.
WHAT, WHAT I'M GONNA SUGGEST IS LET'S LET ALL THREE OF YOUR, UH, TEAM MEMBERS GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE'LL ASK QUESTION.
I THINK THAT'LL, THAT'LL THANK YOU.
UM, BE MORE EFFICIENT, UM, LOOKING THROUGH.
SO WHAT IS THE CONCEPT? LOOKING AT THE, THE NIGHTINGALE COMMONS HERE? YOU'VE ALL SEEN THE DRAFT OF, UH, OR THE, THE LOCATION MAP, UM, WHERE WE ARE, WE'VE SEEN SOME, UH, CURRENT PHOTOS OF THE SITE, UH, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY SEEN.
WE DON'T NEED TO THAT AGAIN, BUT HERE'S THE CURRENT SOUTH SITE CAMPUS, AND HERE'S THE LINE OF, OF OUR CONCEPTUAL MAPPING.
CONCEPTUAL DRAWING, AGAIN, IT'S VERY CLEARLY IN RED CONCEPTUAL FOR, UM, SITE PLAN AND CAPACITY STUDY.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WALKABILITY TO THE HOSPITAL.
UM, THE LOOP AROUND ROAD THERE IS LAMONT, AND THEN AT THE, WHERE THE PURPLE, UH, DOTS ARE THERE, THAT IS BE DRIVE, UM, THAT LEADS INTO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
ANYONE SPEAK TO DEVELOPMENT? YEAH.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE ON THIS MAP HERE, UM, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, UH, WITH SOME OF THE TOWN OFFICIALS.
UH, I THINK IT GOES BACK TO, WELL, OUR, OUR FINAL MEETING OF THE CAPACITY STUDY WAS APRIL 22ND, UM, WHEN WE REVIEWED SOME OF THIS WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CRITICAL, UM, DEPARTMENTS RELATED TO DESIGN IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WE HAVE REVIEWED THIS WITH THEM RELATED TO THE, THE LOOPS AROUND FOR, YOU KNOW, FIRE ENGINE, UM, EMS, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF THIS STUFF.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE STILL IN THE FINAL STAGES OF KIND OF PULLING SOME OF THIS TOGETHER.
UM, BUT REALLY PULLING THOSE CENTER BUILDINGS BACK, THAT B AND C, UM, THAT'S, UM, WE'LL SHOW A, A SLIDE IN A SECOND TO SHOW YOU KIND OF AN OVERLAY OF WHAT'S EXISTING VERSUS WHAT'S HERE.
UM, YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THE, UH, TYPE C BUFFER THAT IS WRITTEN AT THE TOP THERE.
UM, CURRENTLY A PD TWO, UM, HEADLAND.
YOU'RE GONNA HEAR US SAY PD TWO A LOT.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE REFERENCING PD TWO HEADLANDS, HILTON HEAD HOSPITAL.
SO IT KIND OF FLOWS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
WE KEEP ON SAYING PD TWO, BUT THIS, UH, THIS PD TWO IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A TYPE B BUFFER.
SO THE TYPE C BUFFER IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE RECENTLY BEEN TALKING WITH HILTON HEAD PLANTATION ON AS WELL TO KIND OF WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM.
UM, THE INTERCONNECT INTERCONNECTED COMMUNITY ASPECT OF THIS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE SOME WALKING TRAILS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF EVERYTHING CONNECTING BUILDINGS IN TOGETHER.
AND THEN YOU SEE OUR KIND OF, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR ATTEMPTED, UH, LAND PLANNING HERE WITH OUR PURPLE LINE HERE.
BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH, UH, JOEL AND HIS FACILITIES MANAGER ABOUT AN INTERCONNECTED PATHWAY IN BETWEEN HILTON HEAD MEDICAL AND THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS OFF ALSO KIND OF ALMOST WHERE THE WHITE STARTS.
UM, THAT IS MAIN STREET AND YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, THE WALKABILITY TO MAIN STREET AS WELL.
BUT, UH, HERE'S WHAT I'M, HERE'S WHAT I'M KIND OF REFERRING TO.
DO WE HAVE A LASER ON THIS? IS THERE A POINTER ON THIS? UM, DOES THAT SHOW, THAT SHOWS, OKAY.
UM, CURRENTLY SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU'VE SEEN IN PLACE RIGHT HERE, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE OVERLAY OF THE EXISTING VERSUS, UH, PROPOSED OR THE CONCEPTUAL, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD SAY CONCEPTUAL.
UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS AN OLD GARAGE SPACE THAT ESSENTIALLY IS FOR STORAGE.
A LOT OF LANDSCAPE MATERIALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE IN THERE.
UH, THE OLD PULMONARY CENTER IS, UH, RIGHT ON THE LINE RIGHT HERE.
THAT IS BACK IN THIS LOCATION.
UH, THE LARGER BUILDING THAT I THINK EVERYBODY KIND OF RECOGNIZES WITH THE POOL BEHIND IT AND THE REHABILITATION FACILITY.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT KIND OF WHERE THAT AWNING OR DRIVE UNDER, OR MOTOR COURT, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, PORT CACHE.
UM, THE POINT RIGHT HERE IS ESSENTIALLY THE START OF OUR BUILDING.
SO JUST AS A REFERENCE POINT, IF YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THIS, UM, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY SEEING AS WELL, UM, THE LARGER KIND OF L-SHAPED BUILDING THAT'S IN THE BACK RIGHT HERE.
UM, CURRENTLY THE, UM, TRASH RESERVOIR OR THE TRASH PICKUP IS RIGHT ALONG THAT LINE, UM, OF HHP AS WELL.
SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE KIND OF PULLING EVERYTHING BACK, GROUPING THE BUILDINGS TOGETHER SO THAT THEY'RE GONNA HOLD THE TIGHTER OUR INTERCONNECTED ASPECT OF THINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS WALKABILITY
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LOOKING HERE AT CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS, UH, TRYING TO PRESENT, UM, THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.SO THERE'LL BE FOUR OF THE BUILDINGS.
UH, THE BENEATH IS MORE OF THE UPDATED ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING.
AND THEN THE ABOVE IMAGE IS DESIGNED FOR HOW WE LIKE TO KEEP THE NATURAL AESTHETIC AND LANDSCAPE AROUND THE SITE TRULY ENCOMPASSING, UH, MUCH OF THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE THERE.
UM, THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS, RECENT DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE HILTON HEAD PLANTATION RESIDENTS, WHICH WE ARE EXTREMELY SENSITIVE TO, AND I, I, I KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME, SOME INPUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, WHICH WE CERTAINLY WELCOME.
BUT, UM, THE, UH, THE SIDES OF THE BUILDINGS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES FACING CROOKED POND AREA, UH, WEREN'T SLATED TO NOT HAVE WINDOWS, SO NOTHING LOOKING OVER.
UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY OUR BUFFER, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND, UM, THAT WILL HELP TO KIND OF, UM, MITIGATE SOME OF THIS AS WELL.
UM, WE ARE, WE ARE SLATED FOR THREE STORIES RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE, UH, CURRENT HEIGHT RESTRICTION, UM, IF THE, UH, IF, IF THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM GOES THROUGH, UM, WE'RE SITTING AT 45 FEET, UH, WHICH IS STANDARD FOR THAT MED DISTRICT, UM, HILTON HEAD PLANTATION, YOU KNOW, THEIR, A LOT OF THEIR, A LOT OF THEIR ARCHITECTURE IS SITTING AT 35.
JUST FOR REFERENCE, HERE'S A QUICK SNAPSHOT.
YOU DON'T NEED TO READ THROUGH IT, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ENCAPSULATING SOME OF THE DESIGN, ENGINEERING AND COMMUNITY INTEGRATION HIGHLIGHTS.
AND I THINK WE WILL PLAY, UH, WELL INTO THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PD TWO'S DESIGN STANDARDS.
BUT AGAIN, FULL COMPLIANCE WITH STORMWATER ORDINANCE, THE RESPONSIBLE DESIGNS, REFLECTIVE CHARACTER, AESTHETIC AND EXPECTATIONS OF HILTON HAD.
UM, WE'RE INCORPORATING HIGH PERFORMANCE STATE, STATE SUSTAINABLE DESIGN PRINCIPLES, PRIOR DEEP PRIORITIZATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION.
UM, UH, INTRODUCING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH IS EXCEEDS EXPECTATION WITH TYPE C, UM, RESTRICT ADHERENCE TO THE TOWN'S MASS AND SCALE REQUIREMENTS, MAINTAINING THAT 30% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, AND THEN ALSO ADHERING AND DEEP SUPPORT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIC PLAN.
I'VE OUTLINED EACH OF THOSE LINE OF ITEMS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I CAN MAKE THIS AVAILABLE FOR YOU.
BUT THE KEY NOTES THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE, UH, THE REASON NOT IN THIS PURSUIT OF EXCELLENCE, WHICH WE LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE NEW STANDARDS FOR DESIGN AND OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE, UM, STRATEGIES FOR THE PE FOR OUR PEOPLE.
OBVIOUSLY THE DEMONSTRATED NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, AND CAN COMMERCIAL IMPACT ON MAIN STREET AREA AS WELL, REV REVITALIZING AND MODERNIZING THE ECONOMY WORKFORCE.
WE CAN WALK THROUGH EACH OF THESE, BUT WE DO HAVE REFERENCES IN THIS DOCUMENT TO WHERE WE INCLUDE THIS IN OUR NARRATIVE AS WELL.
SO I'LL TAKE A MOMENT HERE, MYSELF, A BREATH, UM, AND TALK TO SOMEONE MUCH MORE ENGAGING THAN MYSELF.
MR. TAYLOR FROM NOVANT HEALTH.
I HAVE THE HONOR TO LEAD NOVANT HEALTH, HEALTHLAND MEDICAL CENTER.
YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS CONCEPT WAS REALLY, UH, FORMED IN OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
AND WITH THANKS TO KEITH AND BRIAN AND THE CDC PARTNERS BEFORE YOU IS A REAL WORKABLE SOLUTION FOR CERTAINLY THE HOSPITAL, BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNITY.
THE DESIRE IS THAT IT IS WORKFORCE HOUSING.
SO IN MY OPINION, I THINK ONE OF THE INITIAL QUESTIONS WAS THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT WORKFORCE HOUSING ACROSS THE BANDS OF A MI.
NOW, I WILL CERTAINLY YIELD TO, EXCUSE ME, KEITH AND BRIAN, AS WE WORK THROUGH, HOW DO WE FINANCE IT IN THOSE PIECES.
BUT THIS IS A PRIVATE SOLUTION TO A KNOWN PROBLEM ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
FROM A HOSPITAL OPERATOR STANDPOINT.
WE HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 70 VACANCIES TODAY.
AND SO IF WE, AND RIGHT NOW HILTON NET HOSPITAL CONTRACTS APPROXIMATELY 30 CONTRACT LABOR PERSONNEL TO FILL A PORTION OF THOSE VACANCIES JUST SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL, EXCUSE ME, ESSENTIAL SERVICES.
THIS IS ONE OF OUR EFFORTS TO SOLVE THAT VACANCY ISSUE.
IT'S DIFFERENT, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND APPRECIATE AS, AS BRIAN SAID, THE FEEDBACK FROM HILTON IMPLEMENTATION.
WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY UNIQUE TO US AND CAN BE, UH, A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL WIN FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE HOSPITAL.
SO APPRECIATE, UH, THE CONSIDERATION.
I WILL CERTAINLY BE AROUND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE OF TIME.
THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS ON 50 YEARS.
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AGAIN, IS TALK A BIT ABOUT THE, WHAT THE ITEMS WITH MORE REGARD TO THE PD TWO OVERLAY AND PANELSO, UM, OVER THE PAST MONTH, I BEGAN CONVERSATIONS, UH, EARNESTLY WITH IMPLEMENTATION ABOUT A MONTH AGO, MID-JULY, UM, AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND HOW WE MAY COLLABORATE TOGETHER, BEING VERY TRANSPARENT ON COMMUNICATION AND WANTING TO PUT US OURSELVES OUT THERE TO HAVE THOSE DIALOGUES, TO REALLY SHARE, UM, OUR PROPOSAL AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS SEE, RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THOSE, ESPECIALLY IN THE CRICKET POND NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO WILL BE, UM, IMPACTED THE MOST.
WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED WITH THE LEADERSHIP FROM, UH, HILLHEAD PLANTATION, UM, AND ASK THAT THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD, THEIR A RB BE INVOLVED IN OUR LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND NOISE AND LIGHT MITIGATION.
SO WE'LL BE LOOKING TO THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS FOR WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRING THEM OUT TO THE GUIDELINE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A VERY DEEP AND, AND, AND, AND EARNEST EFFORT TO HAVE THE BEST OUTCOME POSSIBLE.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO RESPONSIBLE DESIGN, BUFFER SETBACKS AND NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTION.
BRIAN, I'LL LEAN ON YOU TO, TO LEAN IN THERE, UM, TO TALK TO
YEAH, I DON'T, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW IN, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW IN TUNED YOU ARE WITH THE, THE BUFFERS AND YOU KNOW, CANDIDLY I HAVE TO REFERENCE THE, THE, THE LMO RESTRICTIONS QUITE A BIT WITH BUFFERS TOO, 'CAUSE THERE'S QUITE A FEW THINGS IN THERE.
BUT, UH, ONE THING THAT MAY STICK OUT WITH THE TYPE C BUFFER AND, UM, MR. KE HERE AS WELL.
UM, THE, UM, THE CURRENT STANDARD FOR A TYPE C BUFFER, ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 20 FEET, UM, AND, UM, OBVIOUSLY SOME OVER STORY TREES AS WELL.
UM, I BELIEVE IN THAT, UM, IS A THREE FOOT FENCE THAT IS REQUIRED, UM, THROUGH A TYPE C BUFFER.
UM, IT CAN BE A FENCE OR IT CAN ALSO BE, I BELIEVE A HEDGE GROW OF SOME SORTS.
UM, WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT THAT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR FULL PRIVACY.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ELEVATING OUR TYPE C, UM, TO ENGAGE WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE ARBS INPUT AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE A SIX FOOT FENCE, UM, ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS.
UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, ANY CHANGE IS, IS DIFFICULT AT TIMES.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE PROACTIVELY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
I MEAN, I, I'VE BEEN HERE 19 YEARS, YOU KNOW, KEITH IS A RESIDENT OF HILTON HEAD PLANTATION, YOU KNOW, UM, WE, WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT TO, TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, LESSEN THE, YOU KNOW, LESSEN THIS AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.
SOME OTHER EXAMPLES OF OUR COLLABORATION, UM, PROTECTIONS.
AND, UH, SO LOOKING AT, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED THROUGH MANY OF THESE, UH, THESE ITEMS AS WELL.
SO I DON'T WANNA, I WANT TO GET TO THE, THE MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION.
WE, WHEN WE, WE TALK, THIS IS THE BUFFER.
SO LET ME, LET ME ADDRESS KIND OF, UM, MR. REDMOND'S INITIAL ITEM INTO BEN'S MEMO.
UM, THIS WEEK, UH, THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS SPECIFICALLY AROUND, UM, RELATIONS TO PALM METAL HEADLANDS AND THE PD TWO, AND HOW ARE OUR ALIGN, HOW OUR PROJECT ALIGNS WITH THE, UM, THE MASTER PLAN DESIGN.
SO I WANTED TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS.
THERE WERE NINE, UM, THAT WERE INCLUDED IN OUR APPLICATION ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
WE DO HAVE, UM, THAT REFERENCE IN, IN THE ATTACHMENT OF OUR APPLICATION, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO TALK THROUGH AND ASK IF THERE'S, UM, ANY OTHER INFORMATION YOU THINK AVAILABLE OR YOU WOULD LIKE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THE KEY POINTS FOR OUR RANGE DEVELOPMENT OF USE IS CLUSTERING OF DEVELOPMENT, INTEGRATED AND CIRCULATION SYSTEM, INFRASTRUCTURE AND INTEGRATION, STREET DESIGN, OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF OPEN SPACES, ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES AND STANDARDS AND ADEQUATE ACREAGE.
WE'VE MADE A VERY THOUGHTFUL EFFORT IN ADVANCE OF OUR APPLICATION TO ALSO PUT SUPPORTING DETAIL IN OUR APPLICATION AND HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THIS FOR PD TWO, OUR FOR PALM HUB.
AND WE'RE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, OR ONE, WE CAN WALK THROUGH EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUALLY.
BUT THIS WAS THE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT I, I BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN STAFF MM-HMM
THOUGHT THAT, UM, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SO HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH THAT.
YES, KEITH, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF JUST TAKE A, A, I MEAN, OUR, OUR APPLICATION DID NOT SPECIFICALLY DETAIL THE PD TWO PALMETTO, PALMETTO HEADLANDS, HI, HAI HOSPITAL DIRECTLY IS A QUESTION AND ANSWER.
THERE WASN'T A Q AND A LIST OUT THE A THROUGH H, BUT I, I RESPECT THE STAFF, I REALLY DO.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER WITH
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THIS.UM, IT'S IN OUR APPLICATION, IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE DETAILS.
WE GO BACK FROM APRIL 22ND WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH OUR CAPACITY STUDY RELATED TO CLUSTERING OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE CIRCULATION SYSTEM, THE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS.
ALL THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO FEEL THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED HERE.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANT THIS TO GO THROUGH AS, YOU KNOW, UH, A NON PREPARED APPLICATION, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED OUR TAILS OFF TO GET THIS TO WHERE IT IS.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, PAUSE FOR A SECOND AND SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF WHAT, WHAT ELSE YOU FEEL LIKE WE'RE MISSING, UM, IN THIS, IN THIS DETAIL.
UM, COULD WE, UH, POSSIBLY FIRST HEAR FROM, FROM YOUR CCDC PARTNER? YES.
AND KIND OF WRAP THINGS UP? YES.
AND THEN WE'LL, UH, PITCH IT BACK OUT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.
I'M THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF CCDC.
AND CCDC IS ALL ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THAT'S THE BE ALL AND END ALL WHY WE EXIST.
WE ARE GONNA SERVE AS THE PROPERTY MANAGER FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT.
BUT LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CCDC.
SO ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, A A BUNCH OF CONCERNED CITIZENS WERE GOT TOGETHER AND WERE WORRIED ABOUT WALKING INTO RESTAURANTS NOT BEING ABLE TO BE SERVED, BECAUSE PORTIONS OF THE RESTAURANTS WERE SHUT DOWN TO A LACK OF SERVICE.
WE HAD FRIENDS THAT HAD GONE TO THE HOSPITAL AND COULDN'T GET ADMITTED TO A ROOM AND HAD TO STAY IN A BED.
SORRY, JOEL, YOU PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT THIS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD TO STAY IN A BED, UH, IN A, IN A HALLWAY UNTIL THE, SOMETHING OPENED UP BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH, UH, NURSES TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PATIENT.
UH, WE'VE HAD DIFFICULTY GETTING, UH, SKILLED WORKERS COME TO OUR HOUSE AND TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD.
SO WE DECIDED, WHY DON'T WE TRY TO GET TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
AND WE FORMED A 5 0 1 C3 CORPORATION, UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
AND, UH, WE STARTED TO WORK ON TRYING TO BUY PROPERTIES AND DEDICATE 'EM TO WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR 99 YEARS.
NOW, WHY DO YOU SAY 99 YEARS? WHAT THE HECK IS THAT ALL ABOUT? WELL, THIS PROBLEM EXISTS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, PRIMARILY IN RESORT AREAS, BUT IT'S IN TOWNS, BEACH TOWNS, AND ALSO SKI TOWNS.
IT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY VALUES GET SO HIGH IN THOSE RESORT AREAS THAT THE WORKERS CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.
AND LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS.
THERE'S, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THEY WOULD PUT 15 YEAR, UH, PROVISIONS ON THE PROJECTS, OR THEY WOULD HAVE 10%, OR 20% OR 30% OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE LIMITED TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND THEN AFTER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, IT REVERTED TO MARKET RATE.
WHOEVER OWNED THE PROJECT AT THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THE PRICE WENT RIGHT UP AND THEY MADE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY MONEY.
WE HAVE NO PROFIT MOTIVE WHATSOEVER.
WE WANT TO SOLVE THE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROBLEM.
AND SO WE BUY A DEED, HAVE A 99 YEAR RESTRICTION TO USE OUR PROPERTIES FOR THE A MI LEVELS AT WHICH WE'RE SERVING.
SO WHAT, WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO DATE? WELL, WE OWN 40 PROPERTIES NOW.
WE BOUGHT 40 PROPERTIES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
THE ONLY WAY WE COULD DO IT IS TO RAISE MONEY, BECAUSE IF YOU BUY A PROPERTY AT MARKET VALUE, YOU CANNOT CHARGE THE RENT, WHICH MEETS THE A MI REQUIREMENTS, OR YOU'LL GO BROKE.
YOU'LL BE OUT OF BUSINESS SO FAST THAT IT'LL MAKE YOUR HEAD SPIN.
SO WE RAISED 20, ALMOST 27% OF THE 10 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WE HAVE IN PURE DONATIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE OFFERED PRIVATE MORTGAGES, WHICH OFFERED A RETURN, WHICH IS LESS THAN WHAT A BANK WOULD CHARGE.
WE ALSO, UH, HAD ALTRUISTIC CAPITAL.
SO WE WENT OUT TO INDIVIDUALS AND WE CONVINCED THEM THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT INVESTED 3 MILLION, UH, UH, IN 3% PROMISSORY NOTES.
AND SO WHAT WE BASICALLY DID WAS BEND THE COST CURVE IN ORDER TO BUY THESE PROPERTIES.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE, WE, WE HAVE BOTH, UH, PROPERTIES ON HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON.
WHY DO WE HAVE THAT? HILTON HEAD DID GIVE US $600,000 AND, UH, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY GIVE US $600,000, AND WE HAD TO USE THOSE FUNDS IN THE AREAS WHERE THE MONEY HAD BEEN GIVEN TO US.
SO WE ARE DEDICATED TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE CARE ABOUT.
ALL OF THE, ALL OF THIS, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, ALL OF THIS PROPERTY WILL BE DEDICATED TO WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THE FIRST QUESTION THAT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA ASK YOU, DO YOU WORK HERE ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND? SECOND QUESTION IS, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR INCOME? AND WHAT IS YOUR, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU FIT INTO THAT REQUIREMENT? SO, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FIRST AND FOREMOST THING WE ASK.
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FILL THE UNITS WITH DEMAND FROM WORKERS LOGICALLY, THEN WE MIGHT, WE'D OPEN IT UP TO OTHERS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A PROBLEM.SO A HUNDRED PERCENT'S GOING TO WORKERS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT NOW.
THAT CONCLUDES, UM, OUR PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU AVAILABLE TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, CAN YOU HELP US STAFF? YES.
THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS CHESTER WILLIAMS, PETER CHRISTIAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF HEAD PLANTATION.
SAT IN YOUR SEAT FOR SEVEN YEARS, SO DO A GOOD JOB AND KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH.
UM, HILTON HEAD PLANTATION IS AN EMPLOYER, AND I EMPLOY OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE.
I HAVE A MARINA, I HAVE A RESTAURANT.
THEY ALL COME OVER THAT DARN BRIDGE.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO SOLVING THE PROBLEM IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
OUR BOARD PRESIDENT, MARK QUI RIGHT THERE, SIGNED A LETTER TO THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE UNITED STATES IN SUPPORT OF THE $2,000,200 MILLION GRANT TO DO THE WESTBOUND SPAN OF THE BRIDGE.
THAT'S HOW SERIOUS WE THINK THIS PROBLEM IS OF GETTING WORKERS ONTO HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
MANY OF THESE UNITS COULD SUPPORT MANY OF MY STAFF MEMBERS, MANY OF MY SECURITY TEAM, MANY OF MY OTHER WORKERS WHO COMMUTE LONG DISTANCES TO COME TO WORK.
THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS GONNA BE IN THE DETAILS, AND OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY WANTS WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT THE RUB IS GOING TO BE, IF IT'S CLOSE BY SOMEONE ELSE, HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THEM? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TUNER PROBABLY TWO, THREE MONTHS AGO CONTACTED ME AND SAID, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT POPS UP AND INTRODUCED ME LATER ON TO KEITH AND HIS TEAM AND MS. OW.
AND I MET WITH THEM MONTHS BEFORE AND SUGGESTED THAT THEY COME TO A PUBLIC MEETING IN HILTON HEAD PLANTATION TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, WHICH THEY DID IN JULY.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ATTENDED AND WE ENCOURAGED KEITH AND HIS TEAM TO REACH OUT TO THE DIRECT FOLKS IN CROOKED POND WHO ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
THEY FURTHER INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO SUBMIT ANY PLANS TO OUR A RB AND WORK WITH OUR A RB TO DESIGN THE BUFFERS DESIGN, THE BUILDING DESIGN, THE SETBACKS, WHICH WAS VERY, VERY MUCH ACCEPTED BY US.
THE CROOKED POND FOLKS HAVE CONCERNS, AND I THINK THOSE CONCERNS, UH, NEED TO BE HEARD, NEED TO BE MITIGATED, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF WORKFORCE HOUSING.
EVERY ONE OF US KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE IS HUGE AS WELL.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE SEVERAL PROBLEM.
BUT SO FAR THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY WILLING TO WORK WITH US AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP IN, IN A VERY LONG PROCESS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR COMMITMENT.
WELCOME, UM, MR. COMMISSION OR MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I AM A RESIDENT AT, UM, CROOKED POND POOL ASSOCIATION, AND I AM THE TREASURER OF THAT ASSOCIATION.
WE JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, SO WE'RE NOT VERY PREPARED.
BUT WE HAD A, UM, RESIDENT WHO, UM, I THINK IS HERE, MR. ERIC FROST, WHO PUT OUT A LETTER AND HE CC'D, UH, THE BOARD.
SO WE TOOK THAT LETTER AND SENT IT OUT TO EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE 240 HOMEOWNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE COLLECTED COMMENTS, GOLO, AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE YOU GUYS THIS.
I HAVE ANOTHER ONE AT HOME IF YOU WANT, UM, OF CONCERNS.
THERE'S ONE PERSON IN THIS, UM, BAT WHO IS ALL FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
AND YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, YOU'VE GOT LIGHT SHINING IN OUR EYES.
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PARKING SPACES, I THINK, WITH ALL NIGHT LONG COMING AND GOING BECAUSE HOSPITAL WORKERS ARE AT DIFFERENT SHIFTS AND ALL THAT.THAT'S RIGHT IN OUR BACK DOORS, THAT'S RIGHT IN OUR WINDOWS, THAT'S RIGHT IN OUR WHATEVER.
AND THEY TALK ABOUT THESE SIX FOOT BUFFERS, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE STORY.
YOU'VE GOT POOLS, PRIVATE POOLS THAT THESE THINGS ARE LOOKING AT.
WE'VE HAD, UM, THE IS CUT BEHIND WHERE THEY'RE RIGHT, WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
PEOPLE HAVE CUT THROUGH THE FENCE AND COME INTO THE PROPERTY AND, AND YOU'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A SIX FOOT BUFFERING IN THERE.
AND THAT BUFFER MIGHT BE TREES AND PEOPLE CAN GET THROUGH THAT.
I LIVE ON EDGEWOOD, WHICH IS THE ROAD THAT RUNS, I, I THINK, PARALLEL TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
PEOPLE WALK IN OUT OF THE RIGHT NEAR THE FIREHOUSE, THEY WALK INTO OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE GATE OR ANYTHING.
I, I LIVE RIGHT THERE AT THE VERY, VERY END.
I SEE 'EM ALL THE TIME COMING THROUGH THERE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SECURITY AND, AND LIKE I SAID, LIGHTING NOISE.
IT'S RIGHT BY OUR TENNIS COURTS.
I LOOKED AT THE PLAN BEFORE I BOUGHT MY HOUSE SEVEN YEARS AGO, SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
IT WAS GONNA BE OPEN FROM SEVEN OR EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TILL FIVE OR SIX AT NIGHT.
MAYBE THERE WOULD BE NOT ONE NIGHT A WEEK THAT IT MIGHT BE LATER, BUT IT WASN'T GONNA BE 24 7.
THIS WAS A COMMERCIAL AND IT WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY.
AND NOW, I MEAN, IT COULD AFFECT OUR HOME PRICES.
AND THE ONE THING THAT, ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK IS, SO IF I HEARD RIGHT, 10 UNITS PER ACRE, FIVE UNIT, FIVE ACRES ARE DEVELOPABLE, THEREFORE THAT'S 50 UNITS.
HOW DO WE GET UP TO 126? THEY'RE PUTTING ALL 126 ON FIVE ACRES.
THAT DOESN'T MEET ANY CRITERIA THAT WAS JUST IDENTIFIED BY YOU GUYS.
SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT LOTS OF OTHERS WANNA SPEAK TO, SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME.
BUT THERE'S LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS OF THINGS I THINK THAT REALLY NEED TO GO INTO THIS.
AND WE NEED TO BE BETTER PROTECTED AS HOMEOWNERS IN, IN CROOKED BOND.
RON ZMUDA, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE CROOKED POND ASSOCIATION, AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS.
LIKE YOU HEARD FROM MY TREASURER OF SUZANNE.
UM, THE ONE BIG THING THAT POINTED OUT WHAT SUZANNE JUST SAID, FIVE ACRES ARE BUILDABLE.
10 UNITS PER ACRE EQUALS 50 IN MY BOOK ANY DAY.
WHY ARE WE SQUEEZING EVERYTHING IN THERE? IF WE HAVE TO BUILD IT LIKE THAT? CAN WE TURN ONE OF THE BUILDINGS PERPENDICULAR TO OUR FENCE LINE, TAKE IT OUT, BE IN PARALLEL TO OUR FENCE LINE, MAKE IT PERPENDICULAR.
SO THEN THE PEOPLE ARE NOT LOOKING OVER OUR FENCE LINE.
LET THEM LOOK AT THEIR NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE PARKING AREAS.
I SPOKE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT YESTERDAY, RIGHT OUTSIDE OUR MAIN GATE AND BRIAN NOVAK, I BELIEVE THAT WAS HIS NAME, IS VERY NICE.
HE GAVE ME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR TRUCKS TO GO THROUGH.
NOW I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU EVER BEEN IN AQUA TERRA.
I KNOW PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THERE, AND THAT'S A TIGHT COMMUNITY.
HE SHOWED ME A PICTURE OF ONE OF THEIR TRUCKS WITH HIS ARMS OR HIS LEGS FULLY EXTENDED.
HE GOES FROM ONE PARKED CAR TO THE OTHER PARKED CAR.
I THINK IT IS TIGHTER THERE THAN WHAT IT WOULD BE IN THIS NEW COMMUNITY HERE.
EVEN IF THEY TURN THE BUILDINGS PERPENDICULAR TO OUR FENCE LINE, THEY DO HAVE ACCESS TO GET IN THERE.
BRIAN TOLD US AT A PRIVATE MEETING THAT THE TOWN REGULATION IS ONLY SIX FEET.
HOW MUCH, WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE? DOWN BEACH CITY ROAD BY PALMETTO HALL.
UM, FULLY AGAINST REZONING THAT TO RESIDENTIAL.
PUT THE MEDICAL BUILDINGS BACK IN THERE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UH, MY REQUEST IS PRETTY SIMPLE, AND AS PETER ALLUDED TO THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS, I THINK IT'S IN THE PSYCH PLAN.
THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDINGS ARE CRITICAL.
UH, WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR CLOSE TO 20 YEARS.
UM, I MET NUMBER 19 AND I, BUT UP
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AGAINST WHAT WOULD BE THE BACK ELEVATION IF THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED.UH, I COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A THIRD STORY OCCUPANTS, UH, PEERING DOWN ON ME.
IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE PROVISIONS, RULES, AND REGULATIONS FOR PRIVACY.
I IMAGINE MOST ALL OF YOU LIVE IN THAT SAME SORT OF CONDITION.
THE THING THAT I WOULD REQUEST IS THAT AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS SITE PLAN, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE PURCHASED 20 YEARS AGO.
IT'S NOT WHAT ANYONE IN THIS ROOM I THINK WOULD, UH, WANT TO SEE.
AND HAVING SAID THAT, I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE EARNED MY LIVING AND LIVED MY LIFE SUPPORTING THAT.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
I THINK IT IS A CRITICAL THING.
WE CAN DO THE RIGHT THING BY DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH THE SITE PLAN AND ORIENTING, YOU KNOW, THE AMENITIES AND ABILITIES IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY WON'T IMPACT THE FOLKS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.
UH, I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT WHEN WE HAVE WHAT APPEARS TO BE A FINAL OR, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST REAL DRAFT OF A SITE PLAN TO, TO GO TO THE BAN WITH THAT, WE GET TO SEE WHAT THE OCCUPANTS WILL SEE.
AND THAT CAN BE DONE WITH A DRONE OR POSSIBLY VIEWING TOWERS THAT I KNOW BUILDERS BUILD, YOU KNOW, FOR CERTAIN LOTS WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE WHAT THEIR VIEWS LOOK LIKE.
OKAY, I KNOW IN THIS WAY IT'S IN THE REVERSE, BUT I THINK OUR PRIVACY IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO LIVE THERE.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT Y'ALL WILL CONSIDER THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.
WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE FOR BEACH CITY ROAD, MAIN STREET, ANY OF THAT, WHAT ALL THOSE APARTMENTS WILL DO FOR THAT AREA.
WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOME, THAT WAS ZONE MEDICAL.
AND NOW YOU WANT ME TO NOT LOOK AT A SINGLE STORY MEDICAL BUILDING, BUT A THREE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX.
THE LIGHTING, THE NOISE, THREE STORIES.
WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE SO BIG? YOU'VE ALREADY PROVED THE ONE DOWN BY THE POST OFFICE.
YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF UNITS IN THERE.
DO WE NEED THIS MUCH? AND THEY'RE ONLY SAYING 70% OR 30% FOR THE HOSPITAL.
WHERE ARE THE OTHER 70% COMING FROM? YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
THEY CAN'T TELL YOU WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
THEY HAVE NOT WORKED WITH THE CROOKED POND NEIGHBORHOOD LETTERS WERE PUT IN OUR MAILBOX THIS MORNING.
SO NO, THEY HAVE NOT CONSULTED US.
THANK YOU ALL AS BEING A CROOKED POND.
THANK YOU FOR SEEING US, HEARING US.
AND CAMERON LIVED IN CROOK CROOKED POND FOR 30 YEARS.
AND THE FACT OF THREE STORIES WITH A SIX FOOT FENCE AND MINIMAL BUFFER OR CLEARANCE, WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND ALL MY PREDECESSORS THAT JUST STOPPED.
MY WIFE AND I LIVE ON 26TH EDGEWOOD.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES THAT CAME UP OF THE EXISTING SITE AND YOU APPEAR THROUGH THE BAMBOO, YOU WILL SEE MY HOUSE.
WE'RE ABOUT, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK.
THE EXISTING PARKING LOT THAT'S THERE IS ABOUT 20 FEET FROM THE, UH, THE, UH, HILTON HEAD PLANTATION FENCE.
I'M GONNA JUST BRIEFLY SHARE MY STORY AND OTHERS HAVE DONE THE SAME.
UM, WE STARTED A SEARCH LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
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THE EAST COAST.WE PICKED HILTON HAT ISLAND BECAUSE I READ THAT THERE WAS SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
WE LOVE THE FACT YOU KEEP THE TREES, THE SIGNAGES BACK.
YOU DO ALL THESE THINGS TO KIND OF KEEP IT NATURAL.
UH, AND WE PICKED A GATED COMMUNITY, SO WE WANTED THE SECURITY OF THE GATED COMMUNITY.
SO I RETIRED, UH, BOUGHT A HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID, WHICH WAS A REALLY ADVENTURE FOR US.
WE'VE ACTUALLY SPENT MORE ON IMPROVEMENTS THAN WE PAID FOR THE HOUSE AT THIS POINT.
AS LONG AS I CAN BE UPRIGHT
UM, I THINK THIS IS, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR IT, REALLY DO.
UM, BUT THIS IS REALLY GONNA FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S JUST A GREAT LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS LIKE FLEXIBILITY.
WE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, KEEPING IT FOR MEDICAL USE AS WELL AS RE RESIDENTIAL.
WHAT IF THEY PUT UP THE APARTMENTS AND THEN THEY WANT TO STICK IN SOME MEDICAL OFFICES IN BETWEEN, OR AN URGENT CARE CENTER OR WHATEVER ELSE ON THE SAME PROPERTY.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED LONG TERM THE HOSPITAL HAS TURNED OVER SEVERAL TIMES.
WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GETS SOLD OUT AGAIN? WHAT IF THEY WANNA SELL THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT THE APARTMENTS SIT ON? UM, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE JUST, IF WE'RE GONNA BE THERE FOR, THIS COULD BE FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS, WHATEVER, AS LONG AS I'M STILL HERE.
UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF IT.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET 30% FROM THE HOSPITAL, YOU GOT 70% ELSEWHERE TO MAKE IT VIABLE, YOU GOTTA HAVE THE UNITS FILLED.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF MAY NOT HAPPEN, BUT IT MAY HAPPEN? WHAT IF YOU FILL THREE QUARTERS OF 'EM AND IT'S NOT VIABLE AND YOU GOTTA FILL THE OTHER QUARTER? ARE YOU GONNA START CHANGING THE RULES AND LETTING IN OTHER PEOPLE? I ALSO HAVE CONCERN WITH ONLY ONE PERSON IN EACH UNIT.
SO IF YOU CAN HAVE SIX PEOPLE IN A THREE BEDROOM, YOU HAVE ONE THAT WORKS IN THE HOSPITAL AND FIVE WHO DON'T.
SO WHO ARE THE OTHER FIVE PEOPLE? PROBABLY HUSBANDS, WIVES.
IT COULD BE KIDS, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, I DO HAVE TO ADMIT, I DID SPEAK WITH KEITH.
UH, HE'S BEEN OPEN WITH HIS PLANS, UH, AND BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
UH, WE'VE LISTENED TO THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE GOT PLANNED, BUT WE STILL HAVE CONCERNS.
UM, I'LL BE HONEST, UH, LOOKING, I'VE BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS.
UM, THIS ISLAND'S BECOMING TOO DEVELOPED.
AND IT'S STARTING TO FEEL LIKE FLORIDA TO ME WITH TRAFFIC AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, IT REALLY DOES.
SO, UM, I HOPE YOU LISTEN TO US AND BE GREAT.
IF WE COULD FIND ANOTHER PLACE FOR THIS.
UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME THOUGHT.
WE WANT IT, BUT WE JUST DON'T WANT IT NEXT TO US.
WELL, LUCKY US, WE, IT'S NEXT TO US.
SO, UM, IF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN, IF REALLY GOTTA TALK A LOT MORE, WE NEED A TALLER FENCE.
WE NEED MORE THINGS DONE, UH, TO REALLY REDUCE THE IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
LORETTA BRIN, I AM THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR OF ERIC'S.
AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE UPKEEP OF THE PROPERTY BY THE CCDC WHO MAINTAINED THE PROPERTY OF THE MEDICAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE NOW THAT ARE IN DISREPAIR.
I MEAN, FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THEY TALK, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO IT? ARE THEY STILL GONNA MANAGE IT? AND IS THERE ANY ANYONE OVER THEM WHO CAN OVERSEE IT THROUGH THE, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD? I MEAN, WE'VE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE LESS THAN A YEAR AND WE BOUGHT IT FOR THE PRIVACY OF IT.
WE HAVE AN EASEMENT PROPERTY ON ONE SIDE, AND WE HAVE THE WOODS IN FRONT OF US, WHICH NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A THREE FULL, THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING.
AND I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THE ADDITIONAL, UH, LIGHTS, NOISE AND MAYBE EVEN POTENTIAL FLOODING.
ERIC'S BEEN OUT THERE UP TO HIS KNEES DIGGING OUT THE DRAIN BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THAT EXTRA WATER AND STUFF COMING THROUGH THAT AREA.
AND THAT'S EVERYONE WHO'S SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WOULD, WOULD ANYBODY ELSE, UM, LIKE TO OPINE? ALRIGHT, WELL, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, BRING IT BACK UP TO THE DIOCESE HERE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, REOPEN? DO NOT CLOSE THE PUBLIC
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HEARING.BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA KEEP IT, KEEP THIS GOING UNTIL OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT, UM, MEETING NEXT MONTH.
BUT I WILL BRING IT BACK UP TO US.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I, I GUESS THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS LOOM FACTOR, UH, WHICH I THINK WE HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS.
UH, AND LOOM FACTOR IS NOT NECESSARILY GOOD OR BAD.
WHAT IS THE VIEW TODAY FROM A PROPERTY LINE TO A BUNCH OF DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS? IS, IS AN ANGLE.
UM, THERE'S A PROPOSED, UM, OBVIOUSLY DRAWING OF THREE STORIES.
THERE'S A LOOM FACTOR ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UM, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE THREE STORY ONES CREATE A GREATER LOOM FACTOR IF THEY'RE PULLED BACK.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING JUST TO KNOW HOW THAT LOOM FACTOR IS SEEN FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY LINE AND OR HOW THAT MIGHT CHANGE DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF A, UH, YOU KNOW, BARRIER LINE THAT GOES DOWN THERE.
UM, THAT MIGHT MITIGATE SOME OF THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THAT.
UH, I'M, I'M WONDERING IF THE, UH, PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE TODAY WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR US TO LOOK AT MORE, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING.
THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN THERE.
I'D LIKE TO WONDER IF THAT'S, IF WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.
IF I MAY ADD, THE, THE REASON THAT STAFF WAS NOT ABLE TO PREPARE A RECOMMENDATION WAS BECAUSE, UM, WE, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION AND I SUSPECT THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION IN ADVANCE OF A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BEING PREPARED AND BEING PRESENTED TO, UH, HOPEFULLY AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.
ANYONE ELSE? EXCUSE WHAT? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR BRIAN OR FOR KEITH.
UM, WHO ACTUALLY OWNS THE LAND AND THE BUILDING WHEN THIS IS ALL DONE? CURRENT OWNER IS NOVANT HEALTH.
WE ARE ENGAGING IN A, UH, JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN NOVANT HEALTH, CCDC AND ABODE, UM, AS THE LANDOWNER.
AND DO YOU WANNA SPEAK ANYTHING ABOUT THE, OKAY.
SO THAT, THAT WILL BE, IT WILL BE IN A JOINT VENTURE.
SO THAT IS THE, THAT IS, SO IT'S GONNA BE A SEPARATE CORPORATION? YES.
AND WHO'S THE PRIMARY IS HOW, HOW, HOW, WHO IS PRIMARY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT LAND AND BUILDING CCDC.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND I DON'T THINK YOU WERE HERE, BRIAN, AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE.
AND YOU DID BRING UP A MAP THAT SHOWED THE WETLANDS.
I'M NOT GONNA MAKE YOU GO THROUGH THAT.
HAVE YOU GOTTEN A CURRENT, UM, US GEOLOGICAL MAP SURVEY OF THE WETLANDS SITUATION AS IT EXISTS NOW? AND YES.
WHAT IS THE DATE OF THAT SURVEY? AND WE CAN, UH, I DO ACTUALLY HAVE IT IF YOU'D LIKE TO REVIEW IT OR WE CAN SUBMIT IT WITH THE PACKET.
UM, BUT YOU ARE GONNA SUBMIT IT WITH THE CATEGORY.
GO GO SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS, UM, WETLANDS, UH, RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
THIS WAS DONE I BELIEVE IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
IS THIS, IS THIS A SERVICE? IT, I'M SORRY, A SURFACE GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OR, BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT, THAT AREA OF CROOKED POND MM-HMM
THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, UH, CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THERE'S A BIG SORT OF, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'D CALL IT, A DRAINAGE THING THAT RUNS ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF CROOKED POND.
AND THEN I KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS.
SO, UM, AND I KNOW THAT DOWN OFF OF HOSPITAL CENTER BOULEVARD WHERE IT MEETS MAIN STREET MM-HMM
IT WILL ALSO ACCUMULATE WATER WILL ACCUMULATE.
SO ARE YOU AT THE POINT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US HOW YOU'RE GONNA ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE AND ARE YOU GOING TO GO BEYOND WHAT STANDARD? 'CAUSE THIS IS A MUCH MORE INTENSE MM-HMM
PERVIOUS USE, IMPERVIOUS USE THAN WAS ON THE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, NOT JUST SIMPLY FROM THE STRUCTURE'S PERSPECTIVE, THE SEWAGE, THE WATER, USE THE POOL.
SO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE GONNA BE OVER THE TOP ENGINEERING? AND IS THERE ANY SUBSURFACE, UM, WATER, UH, ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, UH, THROUGH THE SURVEY? THANK YOU.
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SO, UH, WHEN WE GO THROUGH, UM, THE PROCESS AND WE INTEND TO HAVE A MAJOR PROJECT REVIEW, UM, WHICH WE, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT ONE ON THE DOCKET TODAY, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? UM, THAT'S WHENEVER WE'RE GONNA BE PRESENTING OUR CIVIL ENGINEERING AND ALL THE DRAINAGE STUDIES, PERCOLATION TESTS, ALL THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY PROBED THE LAND WITH.UM, IT IS A CIVIL ENGINEER ITEM THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING THROUGH ALL THE DRAINAGE SOLUTIONS.
UM, SOME OF THE, UM, RUNOFF ITSELF, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A, SOME SUBSTANTIAL CALCULATIONS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THAT FIRST SIX INCHES OF WATER.
UH, WHICH IS REALISTICALLY MOST OF THE TIME WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CONTAMINANTS ARE IS WITHIN THAT SIX INCHES.
UM, BUT, UH, PRELIMINARILY WE HAVE, CAN YOU GUYS SEE MY CURSOR ON YOUR, OKAY.
SO PRELIMINARILY WE DO HAVE, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DUMP UP, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, WE WATERSHED INTO THE WETLANDS.
SO WE DO HAVE A COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT IS GOING TO GO ALONG THE OUTSIDE OF THE PARKING LOT SYSTEM.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WHEN I SAY THIS, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF, YOU KNOW, A CONCEPTUAL PLAN HERE, UM, BY ORDINANCE AND BY DESIGN.
UM, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO THROW ANY WATER THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
UM, SO, UM, WORKING TOGETHER OF ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL WATERSHED THAT OCCURS IN THIS AREA, UM, WE WE'RE ABSOLUTELY OPEN TO, UM, OUR PD TWO, UM, PLAN, UM, THROUGH, IS THIS
I, SO, UM, THE PD TWO MASTER PLAN, UM, NOW GIVEN I, I RECOGNIZE, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL READING THE SAME THING NOVEMBER, 1988.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, THERE IS A DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
OUR PARCELS ARE RIGHT IN HERE WHERE THE, WHERE THE PORTION IS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE DETAILS RELATED TO THE ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, UH, RM FOUR DISTRICT OVER HERE AND HOW THEY OFFICIALLY DRAIN EVERYTHING.
UM, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'VE GOT SOME INTERCONNECTED DRAINAGE SYSTEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, NEED TO BE, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, NEED TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF OUR ACTUAL DRAINAGE SYSTEM ITSELF.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS KIND OF ANSWERING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT THE, THE DRAINAGE PLAN ITSELF IS OBVIOUSLY, YEAH.
SO LET ME JUST FROM A CIVIL ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, ONCE YOU GET THIS DONE AND YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THE CROOKED POND PEOPLE, UM, SORT OF SHARE THEIR CONCERNS, CERTAINLY, AND I'VE SEEN IT
UM, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ENSURE THAT, ESPECIALLY AS YOU COME DOWN TO THE POINT OF THE PIE HERE, WHERE IT ALL KIND OF LIKE DRAINS TO, UM, THAT THAT'S A APPROPRIATE ENGINEERING SYSTEM, NOT FOR THE SITE, BUT THAT IT, WHATEVER YOU DO, CAN BE MITIGATED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY LINE THAT YOU MEAN, HOW DO YOU MEASURING WHAT THE SITUATION IS NOW? YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC BEFORE IF YOU WERE HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CERTAIN SITUATION THERE.
SO HOW ARE YOU GONNA MEASURE THE BASELINE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT NOW, IT'S A QUESTION.
AND I THINK DEBATE WHAT THE BASELINE IS AND OR CAN YOU MAKE IT BETTER FOR THEM? YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO ANSWER IT.
I, NO, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THE, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET TO THE MAJOR PROJECT REVIEW, UM, I WILL ASSURE THAT THE CIVIL ENGINEER IS HERE TO HELP ANSWER SOME OF THOSE.
THERE'S A BUNCH OF CALCULATION.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER WITH IT TO TELL YOU EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH RAINFALL, YOU KNOW, HAPPENS WITHIN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME AND HOW TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CALCULATE WHERE IT ALL GOES.
UM, BUT WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEM, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
AND, AND TALKING TO HHP RELATED TO THEIR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AND THEIR BERMS AND, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW THEY MANAGE ANY OF THAT WATERSHED, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO WORK TOGETHER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? YES.
HE, NO, I, OH, MR. CORDES TO S QUITE, HAS YOUR CIVIL ENGINEER INFORMED YOU THAT YOU NEED, UH, STORMWATER DETENTION, UNDERGROUND STORMWATER DETENTION? UH, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
SO I'M GUESSING THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF THE SOLUTION.
UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THERE IS MORE IMPERVIOUS NOT AT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU CALCULATE THE CURRENT VERSUS THE PROPOSED, UM, IT'S NOT AS BIG OF A DELTA AS YOU WOULD THINK THERE.
UM, HOWEVER, UNDERGROUND STORAGE IS A
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SOLUTION.UM, AS IS DETENTION, AS IS, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE IN THE CONSTRUCTION WORLD, WE JUST CALL 'EM DITCHES, YOU KNOW.
BUT, UM, THOSE TYPES OF, UH, SYSTEMS CAN, YOU KNOW, CAN HELP THIS AS WELL.
UM, SO THEY WOULD INDICATE WHETHER OR IF YOU READ THOSE OR HOW WE, WE WILL NEED SOME, YES, WE WILL NEED SOME COLLECTION SYSTEMS. ABSOLUTELY.
UM, PERVIS AND IMPERVIOUS, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, THE, THE MED, UH, ZONING APP AMENDMENT THAT, OR I'M SORRY, THE MED, MED TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WENT BEFORE THE ZMA, UM, YOU'LL SEE ON THERE, I BELIEVE THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE WAS, UH, SAYING 60%.
UM, OUR CALCULATIONS OF WHAT WE'VE GOT WITH THE ENTIRE PARCEL, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE HIGH TWENTIES, SO I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE CONSIDERABLY LOWER.
THE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COULD YOU PUT THE, UH, SITE PLAN BACK UP THERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THE OVERLAY OR THE, THE OVERLAY OF THE EXISTING? I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU PROPOSED.
OH, BACK HOW MANY PARKING SPACES TOTAL AND HOW MANY ARE ALONG THAT BUFFER LINE? SO WE DID, WE DID ACTUALLY CALCULATE, WE COUNT THESE UP NOT TOO LONG AGO.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO GO ON RECORD FOR TELLING YOU HOW MANY ARE RIGHT HERE.
'CAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER WHENEVER WE COUNTED THESE.
WELL, I MEAN, I, I, BUT, UH, YEAH, THERE'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 27 FROM THIS MIDPOINT, WHICH, UH, WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE DO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL SITE ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES IS, IS THE MOST CRITICAL IN THIS.
UM, CERTAINLY ALL OF IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO WORK TOGETHER ON.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO THE, THESE 27 SPOTS RIGHT HERE, UM, OH, I MEAN THAT WHOLE LINE, HOW MANY ARE IN THAT WHOLE LINE? YEAH.
THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS 2 0 1.
UM, THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT, SO, SO THE WHOLE LINE ALONG THAT, UH, SIR, I, I, I MEAN I CAN COUNT 'EM.
I, AND THEN YOU GOT 15 FEET BEFORE THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? YES.
NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, LMO REQUIREMENTS, UH, I BELIEVE FOR A ONE BEDROOM YOU HAVE TO HAVE 1.4 SPOTS, A TWO BEDROOM, I BELIEVE IT'S 1.7 SPOTS, AND A THREE BEDROOM IS TWO SPOTS.
SO, UM, THAT COMES UP AS 201 FOR THE UNIT MIX.
UM, HOW SMALL COULD THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT BE BEFORE IT'S NOT FEASIBLE ECONOMICALLY? AND LOOK, I I, THAT'S A, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR WE'D LOVE TO ENTERTAIN DISCUSS WITH FOR FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION.
AND WE DON'T, CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT ON THE SPOT HERE.
I MEAN, 30% FOR THE HOSPITAL IS GREAT.
I MEAN, YOU, IT IS PRETTY BIG DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF IMPERVIOUS, ALL THAT PARKING, YOU'VE GOT 15 FEET OF BUFFER.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THAT WE GET KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE OTHER 70% HERE.
YOU KNOW, THERE A TOWN COUNCIL MEETING YESTERDAY, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AIRPORT COMING THROUGH, BRINGING 50 NEW JOBS TO THE AREA.
UM, THE BASE BASE SALARY OF $81,000.
YOU KNOW, UM, THAT PUTS YOU RIGHT AT THE BASELINE FOR SOME OF THESE A MI LEVELS.
SO YOU'VE GOT 15 NEW JOBS COMING IN, WHERE ARE THEY GONNA LIVE? YOU KNOW, UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT OTHER 70% IS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THE HOSPITAL AS THEY NEED IT AND THEN SUPPORT THE REST OF OUR ISLAND.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS TALKING TO, UH, THE, THE HIGH SCHOOL THE OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL IS THE LOWEST ATTENDED HIGH SCHOOL ON RECORD OF THE LAST EIGHT YEARS FOR HILTON HEAD HIGH SCHOOL.
AND I ASKED 'EM STRAIGHT OUT AND THEY SAID, WELL, IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY YOUNG FAMILIES HERE, YOU KNOW, SO WE ARE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANY YOUNG FAMILIES.
WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANNA START THEIR CAREERS HERE, COMMUNITIES LIKE THIS.
START YOUR CAREERS ON HILTON HEAD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALRIGHT.
ARE WE AT THE POINT WHERE WE COULD MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
UH, SIMILAR TO THE, UH, TEXT AMENDMENT.
I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'D MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, UM, OPEN SEPTEMBER 17TH.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
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ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND OPPOSED PASSES.ALRIGHT, IF Y'ALL COULD, IF Y'ALL COULD, UH, TAKE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR MEETING.
[7.d. PPR-000119-2025 - Public Hearing Request from Scott Harris, with the Town of Hilton Head Island, for the Public Project Review for a new park facility on the Town-owned parcel located at 252 Wild Horse Road. The affected parcel is Beaufort County Tax Map Parcel R510 003 000 0027 0000. - Brian Eber, Principal Planner]
ALL RIGHT.THIS NEXT ITEM WILL BE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND DECISION BY PLANNING COMMISSION ON A PUBLIC PROJECT.
REVIEW A MOTION AND VOTE BY THE COMMISSION OR NEEDED.
SO THIS IS PPR 0 0 0 1 1 9 2 0 2 5.
IT'S A REQUEST FROM SCOTT HARRIS WITH THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND FOR THE PUBLIC PROJECT REVIEW FOR A NEW PARK FACILITY ON TOWN OWNED PARCEL LOCATED AT 252 WILDHORSE ROAD.
THE AFFECTED PARCEL IS BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX MAP PARCEL R 5 1 0 0 0 3, TRIPLE 0 0 0 2 7 0 0 0 0.
UH, IT IS OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING AND I, UM, INVITE, UM, PRINCIPAL PLANNER BRIAN EBER.
UM, WE'RE GONNA LOAD THIS UP AND, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I'M TRYING TO LOAD THIS UP FOR YOU.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GOT HERE IN 2020.
UH, AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE TOWN LOOKED AT KIND OF THE NEEDS ANALYSIS OF PARKS.
SO IN CONDUCTING THEIR NEEDS ANALYSIS, THEY FOUND A REAL NEED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR WHAT THEY CALLED A MINI PARK AT THE TIME.
SO A MINI PARK WAS IDENTIFIED, UH, BOTH HERE FOR THE TAYLOR FAMILY PARK AND AT THE PATTERSON PARK LOCATION AS WELL IN THE, IN THE 2020, UM, MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION.
SO WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY IS THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM SECTION IS STARTING TO DEVELOP THE PLANS FOR THE DIFFERENT PARKS.
TODAY WE HAVE A PPR FOR THE TAYLOR FAMILY PARK, AND NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE A PPR FOR THE PATTERSON FAMILY PARK AS WELL.
BUT TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PARK, UM, IT'S LOCATED AT 2 52 OLD WILDHORSE.
UM, AND IT'S CURRENTLY BY GUMTREE WILD HORSE.
AND THEN SQUARE POPE IS NOT TOO FAR AWAY.
UM, BUT THE, THE TAYLOR FAMILY DONATED THE LAND TO THE TOWN, UM, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NAMED TAYLOR PARK.
BUT THE LAND WAS MOST NOTABLY OWNED BY THE MCKNIGHT FAMILY.
AND THE MC MCKNIGHT FAMILY IS, IS, IT'S REALLY PRETTY COOL.
THEY WERE KNOWN FOR BEING FARMERS AND FISHERMEN.
AND SO THAT REALLY HELPED CREATE THE THEME OF WHAT THE PARK IS GONNA BE.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE SOME INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE, SIGNAGE AND TRAILS BEING PROPOSED THAT RELATES BACK TO THE FAMILY THAT WAS THERE.
UH, ORIGINALLY, UM, HAVE A, A BE A VERY CREATIVE PARK, AN AREA FOR CONTEMPLATION, A SMALL GARDEN, A PLAYGROUND WITH FISHING THEMED ELEMENTS SURROUNDED BY OUR TYPICAL PAVILIONS, PARKING AND A PLAYGROUND.
SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE MOST OF OUR PARKS, BUT MAYBE ON A SMALLER SCALE WITH, BUT MAYBE WITH MORE MEANING 'CAUSE OF WHERE THE LAND SITS.
UM, ELEMENTS OF THE DESIGN, OF COURSE, WILL BE LOW COUNTRY IN NATURE.
UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA TREAT THE, THE TRAIL SYSTEM IN A MORE NATURAL WAY 'CAUSE THIS LAND HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED UPON.
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UM, TO, TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE AND RETAIN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT'S THERE.THERE WAS A MEETING, UH, ON MONDAY WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORS AND A COUPLE OF THE MEMBERS RECALL GOING TO THE, TO THE LAND, UH, AND VISITING THE SITE, UH, WITH THE MCKNIGHTS.
AND THERE'S A SPECIAL PECAN TREE THAT'S THERE, AND IT'S ABOUT ALMOST 60 INCHES DIAMETER.
AND, UH, SO IT'S A RATHER VERY LARGE.
AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, SOME OF THE YOUNG, UH, PECANS THAT HAVE GROWN UP NEXT TO IT.
IT'S REALLY JUST A VERY DRAMATIC, UH, UH, FEATURE OF THAT PARK.
SO WE'LL PLAY UPON THAT AND DO THAT DELICATELY.
WE HAVE THE PARK DESIGNERS, UH, HERE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM AT ALL.
BUT WE, WE DID TAKE GREAT CARE AND ENSURE THAT THIS, THIS PARK IS PART OF, WAS PART OF THE 2020, UH, MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARKS AND REC.
AND IT MEETS THE, THE, UH, LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND EXTENT OF THE ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO DECIDE FOR US TODAY IF THAT WE ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OF ME OR DESIGN, DO YOU HAVE A SCHEMATIC OF, OF THE PARKS, UH, THAT THEY DEVELOPED? I DO.
I'M HAVING A, A CHALLENGE OPENING THOSE.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE THIS MIGHT BE LOCATED? OH, JUST SCROLL DOWN AND I'LL SPELL, SCROLL DOWN.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE PROJECT SITE LOCATION, OBVIOUSLY WILLIAM HILTON.
THIS IS WILDHORSE, AND THIS IS SQUARE POPE.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE ROUNDABOUT ON QUI POPE TO GO TO THE BACK GATE OF HILTON HEAD.
THERE'S THE GUMTREE, AND THIS IS THE SITE, AND THAT SITE HAS A LOT OF WETLANDS ON IT, SO WE'RE MINDFUL OF THAT.
AND WE'LL ENSURE THAT WE, WE PRE-TREAT ANY RUNOFF BEFORE IT GOES, ENTERS THOSE WETLANDS.
AND THEN I HAVE HERE, I MIGHT, TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT, THIS IS OUR CURRENT CONCEPT FOR THE PARK.
AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE A, A PLAYGROUND AREA, PAVILION AREA, PLACE FOR PARKING.
AND AGAIN, A VERY NATURALIZED, UM, UM, LOW IMPACT TRAIL SYSTEM AS A RESULT.
A KEY ASPECT OF IT, I THINK IS INTEGRATING THE EXISTING PATHWAY ACROSS THE WILDHORSE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN ENTER THE PARK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LIVE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF WILDHORSE.
I WISH I HAD THIS EARLIER
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, UM, BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK UP TO THE DAAS, HOW ABOUT IF I INVITE THE PUBLIC, UH, FOR ANY COMMENT THAT THEY MAY HAVE? YES, MA'AM.
YOU COME AND STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE.
I AM A FIFTH GENERATION GULLAH GEECHEE WOMAN.
AND I ONLY AT THE PARK IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.
I WENT TO THE PRESENTATION ON MONDAY NIGHT, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT MY TAX BILL.
WILL THIS AFFECT MY TAXES? WILL MY TAXES GO UP? AND, UH, WHAT ABOUT THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE WITH THE WATER FROM THE PARK DRAIN ON MY PROPERTY ON WILDHORSE ROAD? THOSE ARE TWO CONCERNS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDRESSED.
AND IF, IF, UH, YOU COULD TALK TO STAFF BEFORE YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY, WE'LL GET YOUR ADDRESS AND OKAY.
ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, WE'LL BRING IT BACK UP TO D ANY QUESTIONS? UM, WOULD THE ARCHITECTS LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? I, I THINK I CAN HER QUESTION ABOUT THE STORMWATER RUNOFFS.
CURRENTLY, ALL OF THE RUNOFF THAT THE PARK WOULD HAVE WOULD THROW FLOW THROUGH AND INTO WHERE NUMBER 17 IS UP HERE.
SO WE'RE GONNA DIRECT THE WATER.
NO WATER'S GONNA BE DIRECTED DOWN WILD FOREST.
IT'LL BE DIRECTED TOWARDS NUMBER 17.
AND THAT'S A STORMWATER BASIN.
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I I CAN'T ANSWER YOUR TAX QUESTIONS, BUT WE'LL GET YOU INFORMATION AND PROVIDE YOU THE BEST ANSWER WE CAN.UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS CLOSED AGAIN.
BACK UP, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE DIOCESE? COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, WELL, HEARING NONE, WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? CLARIFICATION, CHAIRMAN, ARE WE BEING ASKED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD OR CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED AT THE MOMENT? YEAH, WE'RE BEING ASKED.
IT, IT'S A, IT'S A PUBLIC PROJECT REVIEW.
UM, I BELIEVE, WELL, WOULD YOU SHARE ANSWER THE QUESTION? SURE, SURE, SURE, SURE.
SO THE, THE PUB PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH OR CONFLICTS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND GOALS.
AND YOU VOTE ON WHETHER YOU APPROVE THIS PLAN.
OKAY? AND I'M, I MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THIS PLAN AND MOVE IT FORWARD.
AND I FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH OUR OVERALL GOALS AND PLANS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER LOBALL.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEABOLD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
OKAY, NEXT IS, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS, UH, STAFF, WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS SUBMITTED FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS? CHESTER WILLIAMS, DID YOU WANNA YES.
WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO, UH, COMMISSION
[9.a. Nomination and Recommendation to Town Council of Two (2) Planning Commission Members to Fill Vacancies on the Gullah Geechee Land & Cultural Preservation Task Force]
BUSINESS.UH, WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES IN OUR, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE, THE GOOG GEECHEE LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE.
AND WE NEED, UH, NOMINATIONS TO FILL THOSE TWO POSITIONS.
DO I HAVE A NOMINATION FOR THOSE POSITIONS? YES.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, NOMINATE, UH, COMMISSIONERS LOBAUGH AND HEWITT TO BE THE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SERVE ON THE GEECHEE, UM, CULTURAL LAND AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE.
UM, LET'S VOTE ON THE PAIR OF, OF HEWITT AND LOW BALL FOR, UM, FOR, UM, THOSE TWO POSITIONS WITH THE GULLAH GEECHEE LAND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE.
ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
OPPOSED? GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[9.b. Appointment of Board Secretary for July 1, 2025 - June 30, 2026 Term]
ITEM ON THE AGENDA APPOINTMENT OF BOARD SECRETARY FOR JULY 1ST THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2026.WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT ITEM UP AT A LATER MEETING AND BRINGS US TO STAFF
[10.a. DPR-000412-2025 – Jennifer Palmer of Seamon Whiteside & Associates, on behalf of The Town of Hilton Head Island, is proposing a Workforce Housing Development Project at 10 Northpointe Circle. This new development consists of multifamily units and townhome cottages, totaling 157 units and supporting infrastructure. The subject property is zoned Moderate to High Density Residential District (RM-12) and is located within the Corridor Overlay. The affected parcels are identified on Beaufort County Tax Map 7 as Parcels R510 007 000 0121 0000, R510 007 000 0219 0000, R510 007 000 0230 0000, R510 007 000 0232 0000, R510 007 000 0233 0000, R510 007 000 0234 0000, R510 007 000 0235 0000, R510 007 000 0236 0000, R510 007 000 0237 0000, R510 007 000 0238 0000, R510 007 000 0239 0000, R510 007 000 0240 0000, R510 007 000 0241 0000, R510 007 000 0242 0000, R510 007 000 0243 0000, and R510 007 000 0265 0000. - Michael Connolly, Senior Planner]
REPORTS.UH, THIS ITEM WILL BE FOR THE PRESENTATION OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW FOR COMMENT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN REGARDS TO THE NORTH POINT WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT.
A MOTION AND VOTE ARE NOT REQUIRED BY THE COMMISSION, UH, BUT OUR COMMENTS WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO STAFF'S PLAN REVIEW, UM, TIME.
I'D LIKE TO ASK, UM, SENIOR PLANNER MICHAEL CONNOLLY, TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION IF, IF MICHAEL HAS NO OBJECTION, I WOULD, UH, APPRECIATE THE HONOR TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE NORTH POINT INITIATIVE.
THIS IS, UH, PARTICULARLY EXCITING FOR ME TODAY BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH BACK IN MARCH.
AND I ALSO HAVE WITH US TODAY BRENDAN BARR, WHO'S A MANAGING PARTNER AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF ONE STREET RESIDENTIAL, OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER.
WE ALSO HAVE ROBIN WITH US, UH, WHO IS THE PROJECT EXECUTIVE, AND WE HAVE ALL WORKED TOGETHER VERY CLOSELY.
AND BETWEEN THE THREE OF US, WE COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE TODAY.
THIS IS REALLY A BRIEF UPDATE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHERE WE'RE AT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE ALL REMEMBER WHERE THE SITE IS LOCATED.
THIS IS BACKGROUND SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF BACKGROUND LEADING UP TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 19TH.
BUT, UH, ON THE 19TH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED A RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL TO APPROVE BOTH THE, THE ZMA AND THE TAX AMENDMENT.
UH, THAT WAS REVIEWED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
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ALSO RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUSLY TO FORWARD THAT TO TOWN COUNCIL.UPON FIRST READING OF TOWN COUNCIL, WE RECEIVED A, UH, UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FROM TOWN COUNCIL UPON FIRST READING, SECOND READING, AND THAT'S WHAT PUT THE ZONING IN PLACE AND ALLOWED THE ONE STREET TEAM TO SECURE THEIR FINANCING.
AND AT THE TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP RECENTLY, THAT'S WHEN, UH, ONE STREET AS WELL AS RBC ANNOUNCED THAT RBC WILL BE, UH, BOTH A DEBT AND EQUITY PARTNER IN NORTH POINT, WHICH IS SUPER EXCITING FOR US, ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, BRENDAN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR THREE YEARS, AND THE FACT THAT I CAN SAY IT PUBLICLY, IT, IT MEANS A LOT.
AND WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE, UH, DPR SUPPORT FOR BOTH THE CONCEPTUAL AND THE FINAL APPROVAL.
THE, UH, THE DRB, THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED BOTH CONCEPTUAL AND FINAL, REALLY, REALLY WELL RECEIVED.
UH, THE GOALS TO START CONSTRUCTION BY JANUARY, 2026.
UM, WHEN ONE STREET AND RBC ATTENDED OUR TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP, THEY BOTH COMMITTED TO DOING THEIR BEST TO START CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.
AND SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION WOULD BE IN 2027.
WE THINK IT'S ABOUT 14 MONTHS UNTIL THE FIRST UNITS ARE RELEASED.
SO, UH, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE FOLKS MOVING INTO APARTMENTS IN EARLY 2027.
THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH, BUT IT'S 11 ACRES OF TOWN OWNED LAND.
IT'S A GREAT LOCATION, IT'S ENERGY EFFICIENT, SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOOD, HIGH QUALITY CONSTRUCTION, 127 RENTAL UNITS.
EARLY ON, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS THE CAPACITY OF THE, OF THE SITE.
UH, WE TOOK A DEEP DIVE INTO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE SITE WOULD YIELD, AND WITH A COMBINATION OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE STORY BUILDINGS, UH, THE SITE YIELDS 157 UNITS.
UM, I MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SAID THAT, UH, IT COULD GO UP TO 170 IF THE SITE COULD SUPPORT 170.
157 FITS PERFECTLY ON THIS PROPERTY.
IT ALSO INCLUDES A DEDICATED APARTMENT FOR THE FULL-TIME PROPERTY MANAGER, A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT.
IT INCLUDES OTHER AMENITIES AND PROGRAMMING AS WELL THAT, UH, FOCUS ON THE WELLBEING AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS.
THERE'S A COMMUNITY BUILDING WITH HIGH SPEED INTERNET.
THERE'S A POOL WITH OUTDOOR COMMUNAL SPACES, GRILLING, PAVILION, SEATING AND PLAYGROUND.
ONE THING THE DRB SAID IS, THIS IS GREAT.
THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY EXPECT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING, BUT THIS IS A CLASS, A APARTMENT COMMUNITY WITH CLASS A AMENITIES.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA MAKE ALL OF US REALLY PROUD WALKING TRAILS.
INDOOR AND OUTDOOR FITNESS STATIONS, COMMUNITY GARDEN, LAUNDRY APPLIANCES IN EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT.
AND THIS IS FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND'S ESSENTIAL WORKFORCE TEACHERS, FIRST RESPONDERS, HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, AND A WHOLE LOT MORE.
BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER REDMOND AND OTHERS MENTIONED TODAY, UH, SERVING THE ISLANDS WORKFORCE NORTH POINT, YOU HAVE TO WORK ON HILTON HEAD ISLAND TO LIVE AT NORTH POINT.
THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY SPECIAL AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UH, IT'LL SERVE 60 TO 150% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME WITH AT LEAST 50% OF THE UNITS SERVING THAT, UH, 60 TO 80% OF THE A MI.
AND THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM, UH, RBCS PARTNERSHIP.
THEIR, THEIR INVESTMENT IN THIS INITIATIVE INCLUDES THAT TERM THAT AT LEAST 50% OF THE UNITS HAVE TO SERVE UNDER 80% OF THE A MI.
THERE'LL ALSO BE AFFORDABILITY COVENANTS ON THE PROPERTY.
SO IT WILL REMAIN A WORKFORCE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE GOAL IS IN PERPETUITY FOREVER, THE TOWN IS GRANTING A 65 YEAR GROUND LEASE ON THE PROPERTY.
SO AFTER 65 YEARS, UH, ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL COME BACK TO THE TOWN.
BUT, UH, THE, THE INTENT IS THAT THIS WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE FOLKS, UM, FOREVER.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT THE CONNECTIVITY TO THE SCHOOL CAMPUS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE US POSTAL SERVICE AND HAS TAKEN A LOT OF COORDINATION.
I WAS THRILLED WHEN MAYOR PERRY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE US POSTAL SERVICE OF, OF THEIR INTENT TO SELL 1.8 ACRES TO THE TOWN.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH, UH, PARTICULARLY AS I, I BRING THAT FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
BUT THAT ALLOWS FOR REALLY SAFE CONNECTIVITY TO THE SCHOOL CAMPUS.
WE'VE STUDIED THIS AREA A LOT, AND GUMTREE ROAD, REALLY FROM SCHOOL ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN, UH, WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB WITH CONNECTIVITY TO THE SCHOOL CAMPUS.
AND THAT'LL BE INCORPORATED PART AND PARCEL AS A, UH, TOWN CIP INITIATIVE AS NORTH POINT ADVANCES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
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55% COMMON AND ACCESSIBLE OPEN SPACE THAT'S BEST PRACTICES.WE HAVE BIO RETENTION AREAS THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO COLLECT AND INFILTRATE WATER.
REALLY GOOD CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
UM, WE HAVE LOTS OF COMMON OPEN SPACE.
WE ASKED OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER TO LAND PLAN THE MULTIPURPOSE PATHWAY.
UH, THAT'S ULTIMATELY A TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CONSTRUCT THAT, BUT IT'S LAID OUT REALLY NICELY IN RELATION TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE STUDIED THE NEIGHBORHOOD UP IN MARSH POINT.
WE KNOW THAT THOSE ARE TWO STORY BUILDINGS AND THEY ARE ABOUT 35 FEET IN HEIGHT.
SO WE LAND PLANNED THE BUILDINGS ON THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY AS ALSO TWO STORY 35, UH, FEET IN HEIGHT.
SO IT'S, IT'S VERY MUCH NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE.
WE HAVE SOME THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
WE HAVE SOME ONE STORY BUILDINGS, REALLY NICE POOL AREA, A DOG PARK.
WE ALSO WANTED TO PRESERVE THIS AREA ALONG JARVIS CREEK.
THERE'S, UH, ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF THAT'LL BE PRESERVED IN PERPETUITY TO ENSURE GOOD WATER QUALITY AND A NICE AMENITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF NORTH POINT.
ONE QUESTION THAT I'VE RECEIVED A LOT, UH, BACK WHEN WE TALKED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, Y ALL WANTED TO SEE SOME ELEVATIONS, WHICH I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING AS WELL.
BUT ANOTHER QUESTION I'VE RECEIVED A LOT IS, UH, WHAT IS THIS GONNA LOOK LIKE FROM WILLIAM HELP PARKWAY? AND IF WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET OFF OF THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT.
AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.
I KNOW THE LMO ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE ADJACENT STREET BUFFER, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AS WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT, THAT WE DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT FLEXIBILITY OTHER THAN THE MULTIPURPOSE PATHWAY SO THAT IT COULD REALLY BE SET BACK.
AND I, I'VE LIVED, UH, OFF MARSHLAND ROAD FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, AND I THINK OF THE, THE APARTMENTS, THEY WERE GREYSTONE LOCK.
NOW IT'S SUMMER HOUSE, BUT AS YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE WESTERN SIDE OF MARSHLAND ROAD, THEY'RE SET BACK AND IT'S HEAVILY WOODED.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A NICE LOOK.
BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE FROM WILLIAM HILL PARKWAY.
UH, YEAH, YOU'LL KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S AN APARTMENT IN THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S SET BACK.
BUT IT'S, IT'S HEAVILY VEGETATED.
AND WITH, ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE LOB LOLLY PINES AND A LOT OF UNDERSTORY, IT CREATES A NICE THICK BUFFER AREA.
AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE ELEVATION PLANS.
BUT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A LOT OF ACCESSIBLE OPEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, ACROSS THE STREET HERE IS THE POOL.
WE HAVE A, AN EDIBLE GARDEN ON THE SITE.
AND I, I, I LOVE THIS SALVATION, BUT AS YOU'RE COMING FROM THE POST OFFICE, FROM THAT, THAT NEW FRONTAGE ROAD, YOU'RE COMING IN.
THIS IS THE GYM, THE POOLS BEHIND THE TWO STORY BACK ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
BUT THE, THE GOAL TODAY IS REALLY TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED AND SHARE OUR PROGRESS.
AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, BE BETWEEN BRENDAN AND ROBIN AND I, I'M SURE WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
GREAT PRESENTATION AND, AND KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM HERE AT THE TOWN WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.
REDUCE FACE, MR. COURT IS, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
I'M LOOKING AT IT AND IT MAKES SENSE HOW PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LEAVE THIS COMMUNITY AND GO OFF ISLAND.
HOW DID THEY GO THE OTHER WAY? WHAT, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE EGRESS TO GO TO SAY THE HOSPITAL? GREAT QUESTION.
I, I WENT THROUGH THAT PRETTY QUICKLY.
THIS IS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE ENHANCED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.
WE ARE ALSO GOING TO PLACE A FRONTAGE ROAD HERE.
AND THE GOAL OF THAT IS TO PRIMARILY SERVE THE, UH, THE SCHOOL CAMPUS AND, AND FOLKS THAT WILL NEED TO BE HEADING EAST.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, NORTH POINT IS, UH, ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S WESTBOUND OVER.
AND I'VE TALKED AT LENGTH WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT THAT MEANS TO TRAFFIC CIRCULATION IN THE AREA.
AND, UM, I'M HAPPY TO GET INTO THE DETAILS, BUT JUST TO GIVE A A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW, THEY EXPLAIN THAT BASED ON THE USE IN THE UNIT COUNT, SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN THE MORNING, UH, DURING THE PEAK HOUR, THE, THE BUSIEST HOUR IN THE MORNING CREATES AROUND 70 PEAK TRIPS, 70 TO 75, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY MODEL IT.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS ABOUT 50 FOLKS, CARS ARE LEAVING DURING THAT HOUR AND ABOUT 20 CARS ARE COMING IN.
AND THEN THEY WENT ON TO FURTHER SAY THAT
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THEY BELIEVE ABOUT 60% ARE GONNA HEAD WEST.ABOUT 40% ARE GONNA COME THROUGH.
AND I ASKED WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND I, I JUST, I USE SIMPLE MATH, BUT LET'S SAY IT'S 50 50 AND THEY'RE 50 VEHICLES.
THAT MEANS THAT DURING THAT BUSIEST HOUR IN THE MORNING, THAT THERE ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE ABOUT 25 VEHICLES COMING THROUGH HERE DURING THAT PERIOD.
AND IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT, ESPECIALLY AQUA TERRA AND THE APARTMENTS ON MARSHLAND, BUT WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF HEAVY STACKING FOR THESE, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
AND I THINK IT'S IN LARGE PART BECAUSE THE, UH, DISTRIBUTION OF TRIPS FOR THE VARIOUS JOBS ON, ON HILTON HEAD.
NO, HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
YOU SAY THIS IS GONNA BE EMPLOYEES? YEAH.
SO HOW COULD IT BE 60% TRAFFIC WEST? SO IF, IF, IF THESE ARE ALL EMPLOYEES, MOST OF THE EMPLOYMENT IS ON THE EASTBOUND SIDE OF THE ISLAND.
SO HOW COULD 60% OF THE TRIPS BE WESTBOUND IN THE MORNING? AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, SO THAT'S KIND OF COGNITIVE DISSONANCE FOR ME.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IN THE AFTERNOON, ESPECIALLY WHEN BUSINESSES ARE DROPPING STUFF OFF AT THE POST OFFICE AND THE SCHOOL'S LETTING OUT AND THE SCHOOL BUSES COME DOWN, BUS DRIVE AND MAKE THE LEFT ON GUMTREE, I'VE SAT AT THAT CIRCLE K INTERSECTION, THERE'S NO LIGHT THERE.
'CAUSE LIGHT'S OVER HERE IN WILLIAM HILTON.
I'VE SAT THERE FIVE OR 10 MINUTES IN THE AFTERNOON, IF I FORGET, NOT, YOU KNOW, I SHOULDN'T HAVE GONE THERE AT IT'S THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT PEOPLE WILL, 'CAUSE BUSINESSES ARE DROPPING OFF THEIR PACKAGES FOR THE DAY AND STUFF.
SO THOSE AREN'T MY TWO QUESTIONS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S 60% WEST IN THE MORNING IF THESE ARE EMPLOYEES, AND I DON'T ASK YOU TO SOLVE IT NOW, BUT, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE AFTERNOON LATE DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
THAT LITTLE, YOU KNOW, THAT LITTLE LEG BETWEEN WILLIAM HILL PARKWAY AND THE MARSH POINT HILTON HEAD POST OFFICE EXIT TO THE SCHOOL GETS, YOU CAN SIT THERE FOR JUST NUDGING.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT INTERSECTION CAN USE IMPROVEMENT.
AND AS Y'ALL KNOW, I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I ASK A A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AND AS THEY'RE DOING THEIR MODELING, THEY'RE LOOKING AT FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO THE SOUTH END OF THE ISLAND WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY TURN EASTBOUND HERE, WHO COULD GO TO SPANISH WELLS, WHO COULD USE THE CROSS ISLAND.
BUT, UM, THEY, THEY MODEL THIS.
BUT I MEAN, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR, YOUR QUESTION EXCEPT THEY GET TO THE CROSS ISLAND BY COMING DOWN REE ROAD.
YOU I'M GONNA HAVE TO SOLVE IT NOW.
IT'S, YEAH, I, IT NOT MAKING ANY SENSE TO ME.
AND THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT, UH, OVER TIME THAT, THAT, THAT WHOLE GUMTREE AREA CAN, CAN BE IMPROVED.
UH, JUST, UH, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT RENDERING, YOU JUST SHOWED, I THINK THE ARCHITECTURE'S, FROM MY OPINION, GETTING BETTER AND BETTER.
WHAT IS THE DEVELOPABLE FOOTPRINT IN ACREAGE? JUST A GUESS.
THE ENTIRE SITE IS 11.33 ACRES.
SO THAT IS, THAT IS THE DEVELOPABLE SITE.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, YOU TALKED ABOUT ASSOCIATED BUILDING HEIGHTS IN MARSH POINT AND WHAT YOU WERE LIMITING YOURS TO, IF YOU GO BACK TO THAT RENDERING, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S ABOUT 35 FEET TO THE, IS THAT TRUE? YOU SHOWED A, YOU SHOWED THAT RENDERING, BUT THEN YOU SHOWED A THREE STORY MM-HMM
THIS WOULD BE FOUR CLOSER TO FOUR, FIVE FEET.
YEAH, OUR GOAL, THAT'S THE SIDE THAT'S CLOSER.
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE INFORMATION.
FOR COMPARISON, OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE.
SO THEY HAVE THE, THE VARIETY.
WE, WHAT WE ABSOLUTELY DIDN'T WANT WAS EVERYTHING AT 45 IT ON.
YOU'RE STEPPING BACK AND DOWN AT VARIOUS PLACES.
AND IT, IT'S ALWAYS A BALANCE.
'CAUSE WE WANT TO PROVIDE AS MUCH WORKFORCE HOUSING AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE HAVE TO RESPECT, UH, HILTON ISLAND CHARACTER.
REAL QUICK, JUST OUT OF THAT 12 ACRES, YOU HAVE 12 ACRES, UH, JUST SHY.
HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS, IS WETLANDS? UH, THAT THERE ARE NO WETLANDS ON THAT, THAT I CAN OKAY.
SHOW YOU THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SITE, BUT, UH, THE WETLANDS DON'T START UNTIL JARVIS CREEK AND WE'VE HAD THIS DELINEATED AND THE PROPERTY LINE IS THE WETLAND LINE, SO YOU CAN USE IT ALL.
WE COULD, BUT WE WERE, WE STRATEGICALLY ARE NOT USING PART OF THE SITE.
ALRIGHT, THANKS COMMISSIONER SBO.
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YEAH.I WANTED TO ADD MY CONGRATULATIONS TO THAT OF THE CHAIRMAN FOR, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS PROJECT, AND ALSO TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU INVESTED ON KEEPING EVERYBODY INFORMED ALONG THE WAY.
I, I KNOW YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH ME IN MY FORMER ROLE AS CHAIR AND, AND YOU ALL, YOU'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF COMMUNICATING WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND HOW YOU'RE, HOW YOU'RE ADAPTING TO INPUT AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING.
SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND ADAPTING AND, AND INFORMING.
I, I CONSIDER THIS A GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY AND I'M JUST BLESSED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
SHALL WE END ON THAT HIGH NOTE? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADUR.
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THIS IS NATALIE HEFTER AND THIS IS YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT.
STARTING IN THE 1740S, INDIGO WAS INTRODUCED TO THE CAROLINAS.
ELIZA LUCAS AND ANDRE DEVOE CREDITED WITH BRINGING THE PROCESS TO FRUITION HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
WHILE IT WASN'T INTRODUCED IN BEAUFORT COUNTY UNTIL THE 1750S.
BY THEN, IT HAD ALREADY EXPANDED TO BE ONE OF SOUTH CAROLINA'S MOST IMPORTANT EXPORTS.
IN THE LATE 1740S, ENGLAND PASSED A BOUNTY ON CAROLINA INDIGO, WHICH GREATLY INCREASED PRODUCTION.
HERE, THE PROCESSING OF INDIGO INVOLVED A LONG, SEVERAL DAYS OF FERMENTING THE PLANT IN VATS OF URINE AND WATER.
ONCE THAT HAD HAPPENED, THEN THE DYE WAS LEFT OUT OF THE SOLUTION TO DRY PACKAGED UP IN BARRELS AND SHIPPED TO ENGLAND.
BY 1775, OVER 1 MILLION POUNDS OF INDIGO WAS EXPORTED FROM THE CAROLINAS BY 1802.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS NO LONGER AN EXPORT FOR INDIGO, AS MOST PLANTERS HAD TURNED THEIR EYES TOWARDS SEA ISLAND COTTON.
THIS IS NATALIE HEFTER FROM THE COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM, AND THIS HAS BEEN YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT.
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