[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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ONLY 2025 AND WE'LL CALL THIS MEETING DOOR. WE'LL START THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOLLOWED BY THE INVOCATION. THAT'S WHAT LOOKS LIKE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHICH IS A INTERESTING FROM MR. HAMILTON BECAUSE HE WAS MERCIFULHER, WE U AND EXCELLENT FOR YOUR GUIDANCE FATHER THAT YOU GOT A HEART IN THAT TONE IN OUR MINDS TO DO WHAT IS PLEASING IN YOUR SIDE OF THE ACT THAT YOU BLESS ALL THOSE WHO CALL BLUFFTON HOME AND A BETTER HOME EVERY DAY FOR THE PEOPLE WE SERVE IN IN OAK. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ADOPTION
[IV. ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES]
OF THE MINUTES. MR. ESTES ARE THERE ANY CHANGES NONETHELESS COUNCIL HAS ANY COUNSEL IF NOT IS THERE A MOTION ALL FAVOR THAT'S UNANIMOUS ANOTHER ONE RIGHT UP NEXT WE HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM SEVEN 825 IS THERE A MOTION TO SECOND OUR FAVOR THAT'S UNANIMOUS. AND UP NEXT WE HAVE THE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF OF JULY 15 ON 25. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO I ACTUALLY HAVE[V. PRESENTATIONS, CELEBRATIONS, AND RECOGNITIONS]
PRESENTATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS AND WE'LL HAVE THE USCCB SAN SHARP WELCOME WEEK PROCLAMATION I'VE I DON'T KNOW HOW REALIZED TODAY THEY NEVER DO SO THERE'S DANIEL LOPEZ AND TAYLOR WILSON SIR AND THIS IS THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA. BEAUFORT IS A FULLY ACCREDITED COMPREHENSIVE INSTITUTE WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA SYSTEM USC, HAS 19 UNDERGRADUATE DEGREE PROGRAMS AND TWO GRADUATE DEGREE PROGRAMS THEY ARE WELCOMING MORE THAN 2200 STUDENTS FOR THE START OF THE 25 ACADEMIC YEAR. MAYOR TUMA ALONG WITH BLUFFTON COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF AUGUST 18 THROUGH THE 20 TO 20 SECOND 2025 AS USC CB SAM SHARP WEEK WE LADIES LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUSHING THIS.THANK YOU. ARE YOU ALL EXCITED? YEAH I THINK WE HAVE SO MANY NEW FRESHMEN COMING IN WE HAVE OVER 600 FRESHMEN COMING IN THIS SEMESTER.
WE ARE FULLY EXCITED AND WE JUST READY TO GET BACK ON CAMPUS AND READY TO SEE AND SHOW THEM WHAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON HAS BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, HOPE I HOPE BASKETBALL BUT ALWAYS IN MY HEART I'M GOING TO SHOW ONE THORN TO ROWS.
READY? ONE, TWO, THREE. I GOT IT.
THANK YOU. OH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
[VI. PUBLIC COMMENT]
WOULD YOU WANT TO READ THESE RULES FOR ME AND YES, SIR, IN THE NAME OF CIVILITY WHICH WE DESPERATELY NEED AND THIS COMMUNITY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT EACH SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 3 MINUTES PER MEETING REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE PERSON IS SPEAKING ON OWN BEHALF OR AS AN AGENT FOR OTHERS MEANING ATTENDEES MAY NOT DONATE TRANSFER YIELD OR GIVE ALL OR ANY PORTION OF SPEAKING TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON.ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS TO BE CONDUCTED FROM THE PODIUM AND DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY MEMBER. THEY'RE ALL SPEAKERS SHALL BE MINDFUL RESPECTFUL OF THOSE PARTICIPATING IN OR PRESENT THE MEETING SPEAKERS SHALL BE EXPECTED TO BE CIVIL IN THEIR LANGUAGE AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM COMMENT OR BEHAVIOR THAT INVOLVES DISORDERLY SPEECH OR ACTION NAME CALLING, PERSONAL ATTACKS THREATS OBSCENE OR INDECENT REMARKS AND OR
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DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS ALL SPEAKERS SHALL CONFINE THEIR COMMENTS TO ISSUES UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL SPEAKERS SHALL NOT USE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO PROMOTE OR ADVERTISE AWARDS BUSINESSES SERVICE GOODS OR CANDIDATES FOR PUBLIC OFFICE ANY SPEAKER THAT VIOLATES THESE RULES AND PROTOCOLS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE RULED OF ORDER BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. ANY PERSON WHOSE HAVE BEEN RULED OUT OF ORDER SHALL IMMEDIATELY CEASE AND DESIST FROM FURTHER IMPROPER COMMENTS THE REFUSAL OF AN INDIVIDUAL TO DESIST FROM FURTHER IMPROPER COMMENTS MAY SUBJECT TO TO REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING AND OR A CITATION UNDER SECTION 2-49 OF THE TOWN CODE OF MARINE OBJECTS WELCOME.WELCOME. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YES. WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN OR NOT? YES MY NAME IS MARIE KOWALCZYK I LIVE AT 161 PINE CREST CIRCLE AND I AM A RESIDENT OF BLUFFTON . I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PINE CROSS AND JUST WANT TO THANK THE TOWN COUNCIL SUPPORTING OUR OPPOSITION TO THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OUR GOLF COURSE WHICH IS BORDERS EVERY SINGLE PRACTICALLY EVERY SINGLE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE REALLY THAT AND SHELL HALL HAS ALSO SENT YOU A LETTER I THINK YOU RECEIVED ABOUT THEIR OPPOSITION AS WELL TO THIS I'M EXPECTING TO GET ONE FROM HAMPTON HALL AS WELL BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU I KNOW YOU'RE TRANSFERRING 60 DENSITY UNITS AND SUBSEQUENTLY IN THIS AGENDA COULD YOU SHARE HOW MANY DENSITY UNITS THE BLUFFTON TOWN SHIP STILL HAS? WE DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS DURING PUBLIC.
OH, BUT WE WILL GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU REQUEST. OH THAT'S WONDERFUL OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. BROWN AND GOOD EVENING. TOWN COUNCIL SHARON BROWN 163 DUCKS SHOULD TURN THIS THING DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I MEAN 7163 BUCK ISLAND ROAD SO I STAND BEFORE YOU HERE TODAY BECAUSE I EMAILED ALL OF YOU ALL AND BIGGIE SMALLS IN REFERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSISTANCE PROGRAM I IN REFERENCE TO THE REEVALUATING AND ADJUSTING THE INCOME THRESHOLD OF THE MEDIAN INCOME I SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION.
I HAD A SERIOUS ROOF LEAK AND SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION AND THE MEDIAN INCOME IS SET PRETTY HIGH FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS A FAMILY. TWO YOU HAVE TO MAKE 60% OF IT.
THAT'S $52,000. I CAN'T EXCEEDED THAT. SO MY APPLICATION NOT APPROVED.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THE MEDIAN INCOME THAT'S NOW IS IT HAS YOU GUYS REVIEWED IT FOR WHAT'S GOING THE INCREASE IN THE ECONOMY AS OF TODAY HAS THAT BEEN SET ALONG WITH THE INCREASE WITH THE ECONOMY THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE I READ THROUGH SOMEWHERE AND GO THROUGH THERE'S LOT OF PLASTIC ON PEOPLE ROOMS I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T QUALIFY OF THE MEDIAN INCOME BUT THAT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION THAT YOU GUYS LOOK INTO TO INCREASE THAT BECAUSE I'M A FAMILY OF TWO I HAVE TO HAVE SIX KIDS IN ORDER TO MEET THAT MEDIAN. I MEAN AND THAT'S A PART OF MY VILLAGE, RIGHT? OKAY WELL I HAVE IT BUT WITH THAT SAID I'LL MOVE ON. SO NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENT RESOURCE GUIDE THAT HAS GREAT INFORMATION IN IT TALKS ABOUT THE GROWTH IN ANNEXATION TOWN SERVICES VOTING AND ELECTION PARKS, ROAD AND DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WHAT IT DOESN'T HAVE IS WHAT BLUFFTON IS MADE OF WHAT THAT MAKES BLUFFTON AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS THE GULLAH AND SPECIFICALLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITIES AND IS THE CONTRIBUTION OF BLACK LEADERS AND INSTITUTION HISTORICALLY AND JUSTICE AND PRESERVATION AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DO SO WE KNOW THAT MISS BRIDGET FRAZIER JUST OPENED UP MY DAISY HAS WENT THERE ALL THE TOWN COUNCIL PEOPLE HAD ALREADY BEEN THERE TO EAT CERTAIN RIGHT EVERYBODY AND THAT MEANS THAT YES BECAUSE HONESTLY NOBODY SHAKING THEIR HEAD BUT WITH THAT SAID THIS PARTICULAR RESOURCE GUIDE IT IT DOES NOT TALK ABOUT PRESERVING AND THE CELEBRATION OF GOLD IN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY THIS PLACE HOLDS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS IT CREATE A CULTURAL HERITAGE WITH IMMERSIVE LEARNING AND THAT'S THAT GULLAH HERITAGE CENTER.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TOWN COUNCIL PEOPLE TO DO IS A MOBILE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING GO OUT TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE Y'ALL DO A LOT OF SAYING WHAT THE TOWN HOW TO BECOME A TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER YOU KNOW WE HAVE TWO SEATS COMING UP I'VE BEEN
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THINKING SERIOUSLY ABOUT RUNNING BUT THE LORD SAID MAYBE THAT'S NOT FOR YOU BECAUSE I WON'T BE ABLE TO COME UP HERE AND RAISE. WE DON'T.BUT WITH THAT SAID I WANT YOU GUYS TO GIVE THE GALAXY G COMMUNITY A LITTLE MORE VISIBILITY. GUYS COME ON AND MINGLE WITH US PERRY BEING I'LL SEE YOU ESPECIALLY I NEVER SEE AND YOU ALL COME ON OUT HERE AND LET'S INTEGRATE TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR MISSION SAYS RIGHT OUR VISION IS THAT WE ARE ALL ONE WE'RE ALL FOR THE PEOPLE, RIGHT, EMILY RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING GOD BLESS YOU GUYS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE BELL DID NOT RING. IT'S OVER NOT JUST MAKE IT LIKE THAT, MR. GARFIELD. MS. BELL IT'S FINALLY MS. GARFIELD I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE SINCE 91. YOUR GARFIELD OH, MY ADDRESS IS FOUR GARFIELD AWAY AND BUT I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE SINCE 1988 AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I WENT TO THE DON RYAN CENTER TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON THE THE GRANTS THAT THEY HAD FOR COVID .
AND I EXPLAINED TO THE LADY THAT WAS IN CHARGE THERE THAT I WAS NOT COMPUTER LITERATE AND I NEEDED HER TO EXPLAIN TO ME, YOU KNOW WHAT I NEEDED TO DO TO GET THE INFORMATION.
AND SHE WAS VERY RUDE ME WHICH I DISCUSSED WITH THE WITH THE TOWN MANAGER AND AND AND THE ATTORNEY AND THEY REALLY APOLOGIZE FOR HER RUDENESS. BUT SHE ISSUED A COMPLAINT ME TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAID THAT I WAS VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH HER AND SO I TALKED TO HER BOSS AND I TOLD HIM THAT WAS AGGRESSIVE BUT I WAS NOT RUDE TO HER AND I EXPLAINED TO THEM ALSO THAT I'M VERY AGGRESSIVE AND VERY PERSISTENT. THAT'S THE KEY TO MY SUCCESS AND BUT I WAS NOT RUDE AND SHE THEY CALL THE POLICE ON ME AND HAD THE POLICE COME TO MY HOUSE ISSUE A NO TRESPASSING WARRANT WANTING TO ME AND SAID IF I CAME BACK ON THE PROPERTY AGAIN THEY WOULD ME ARRESTED AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY PRETTY EXTREME I THINK I DIDN'T MENTION IT TO MR. TUMA ALSO AND HE INDICATED TO ME THAT THEY PROBABLY HAVE A CAMERA TO VERIFY, YOU KNOW, MY ACTIONS AND AND I TERRY AND I MEAN MR. FINGER AND OUR TOWN MANAGER APOLOGIZED FOR HER ACTIONS AND THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HER RUDENESS TO ME AND I TELL THEM WHAT I DON'T SEE WHY YOU KNOW HOW SHE COULD DO BE THAT RUDE WHEN ALL I WAS DOING IS SEEKING INFORMATION ON HOW TO GET SOME GOVERNMENT FUNDING FOR MYSELF AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH MY NONPROFIT AND IT'S GONE ON DEAF EARS NOW ALMOST TWO YEARS AND I WENT BY THE TOWN MANAGER'S LAST WEEK I MENTIONED IT TO HIM AND HE TOLD ME TO GO SEE MR. FINGER BECAUSE IT WAS A LEGAL MATTER AND UNTIL THEN WELL I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO GO BACK TO MR. FINGER BECAUSE HE THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AT THAT TIME AND I SHOULD JUST GO TO THE STATE AND COMPLAIN AND AND WHAT NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN DONE AND I JUST THINK IT WAS HORRIBLE BECAUSE I'VE BUILT SIX HOUSES HERE AND MR. TOUMA KNOWS ME. I'VE BEEN HIS NEIGHBOR FOR OVER 17 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN A REAL ASSET THIS COMMUNITY AND I DON'T SEE WHY I WAS TREATED THAT WAY AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND SEE SOLVING THAT KIND OF PROBLEM BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, I THINK THE JAIL SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR AND TO GIVE PEOPLE LIKE ME CORRECT INFORMATION.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU AGAIN, IF THEY SENT POLICE TO MY HOUSE AND TOLD ME THAT I COULDN'T COME INTO THE BUILDING AND THEN THE MANAGER TOLD ME THAT THAT 3 MINUTES ARE UP AND I THINK WE SHOULD WE SHOULD WE GOT TO GO. OKAY.
THAT'S ALL I THINK. OKAY. MOVING ON HERE TOOK
[VII. COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL]
COMMUNICATIONS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND START WITH MR. FRAZIER THANK YOU TO EVERYTHING PERSONALLY BUT FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN DIRECT HIM TO WHO CAN HELP RESOLVE THAT IF HE'S SAYING THAT HE'S BEEN BANNED OR DISBARRED FROM ONE OF OUR BUILDINGS IN TERMS OF WHO HE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH TO ADDRESS WHATEVER UNRESOLVED ISSUES STILL EXIST THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO WHEN THAT TRESPASS WAS LIFTED WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS AND THE REASON HE WAS DIRECTED TO OUR ATTORNEY WAS BECAUSE WHEN CAME IN HE SAID HE WAS THREATENED TO SUE OVER IT. SO I SAID HE NEEDED TO SPEAK TO[00:15:01]
OUR LEGAL COUNSEL. I ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. WOODS YEAH, PLEASE. I WANTED TO YOU KNOW FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR A FEW ONE IS TOO LONG AGO THEY REPAVED THE PORTION OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY THAT WAS THE WORST FROM THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE OUT OF GOOD WAYS I THINK IT MAY RECALL HOW BAD THE POTHOLES AND EVERYTHING WERE SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON THEY REMOVED THE SPEED AND REPLACED IT WITH A SPEED BUMP OR GO THROUGH ROAD YEAH THANK YOU IS RIGHT TO BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR THAT AND ALSO OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WHICH WILL BE COMING UP HERE SHORTLY IS THE LIVE WELL PROJECT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE PARTNERSHIP FOR COUNTY AND BEAUFORT MEMORIAL IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.SO I WANT TO JUST COMMEND THEM. THEY DON'T USUALLY GET TOO MANY GOOD FROM TOO MANY IN THE PUBLIC BUT THEY'RE GETTING THEM TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY THEM AND THEY DESERVE THEM AND SO THANK YOU BEAUFORT COUNTY. YES. I LIKE TO GIVE KUDOS TO ONE OF OUR OUR COUNCIL MEMBER AND MISS FRAZIER FOR TRYING TO FEED ALL THE BLUFFTON BLUFFTON I KNOW I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING HARD AND AND JUST SHOWING UP TONIGHT WITH THE BOYS.
YOU THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO BE A SUCCESS AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL SEE YOUR FUTURE WITH MY DAYS. IS IT JUST AS BRIGHT AS IS VISION SO I ALSO WANT TO SAY THE COMMUNITY THAT IT PANCREAS SAID GO HOME AND GO TO SLEEP YOU GOT YOU YOU WANT TO TAKE CARE OF ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW THAT, FRED, BUT I DO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT SOME GOOD NEWS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO MISS KIM CONTI WHO'S NOT HERE BUT TO STEPHEN AND LARRY IN PUBLIC WORKS THE TOWN TESTED A NON TOXIC CHEMICAL ON A FEW PARKS RECENTLY AND THANKFULLY IT HAS WORKED WELL AND SO AT THIS POINT ANY SPRAYING THAT YOU SEE DONE BY TOWN EMPLOYEES IS TOXIC FREE WHICH I THINK IS A HUGE WIN FOR OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CHILDREN AND THE RUNOFF INTO THE RIVER SO I'M HOPING THAT THAT WILL BECOME A POLICY AND FEATURE ELSEWHERE. I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH OTHER THAN I JUST WANTED TO ASK EVERYBODY TO KEEP THE REEVES FAMILY IN YOUR PRAYERS. MISS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW BUT MISS MARY REEVES PASSED HERE YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE AT 95 MOTHER OF FIVE BOYS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY GRANDKIDS BUT PROBABLY AS MUCH AS I KNOW HER CLOTHES ANYWAY THAT'S JUST HER OUR FACT.
SHE AND HER FAMILY ARE LATE THE LATE JERRY REEVES VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING BLUFFTON SURVIVE TO THE DAYS WHEN THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF OPPORTUNITY OR JOBS YOU HAD A PART OF THE OYSTER COMPANY AT ONE TIME ASIDE THE HUGE COMMERCIAL LAUNDRY THAT YOU SEE ON BUCK ISLAND ROAD HAS BEEN THERE. THEY'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT THE EARLY EIGHTIES OR SO MAYBE THE LATE SEVENTIES. SO IT'S JUST SHE'S SHE A GOOD ONE AND I HATE TO SEE HER GONE BUT I'LL JUST KEEP OUR FAMILY IN YOUR PRAYERS IF.
[VIII. WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEMS]
YOU WILL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NEXT WORKSHOP AGENDA ITEMS IS GOING TO BE A WORKSHOP UPDATE ON SOUTH CAROLINA LAW AGED 3 TO 9 TO RELATED TO GOLF CARTS AND THE ALLOWANCE OF LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES TO ADOPT SIMILAR REGULATIONS MS..HEATHER COLLINS GOING TO EDUCATE US. YES, THANK YOU.
SO YES TONIGHT IS JUST A WORKSHOP. WANT TO JUST GO OVER WHAT THE STATE APPROVED AS AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO GOLF CARTS IN MAY OF THIS PAST YEAR AND THEN TO SEEK YOUR DIRECTION ON HOW YOU'D LIKE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WHETHER IT'S TO REVIEW AND GET SOME MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WITH AN ORDINANCE OR CONTINUE THIS TIME.
SO JUST REAL BRIEFLY STATE SO LIKE I SAID BACK IN MAY THE STATE APPROVED AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO GOLF AND WHAT IT DID WAS ALLOWED THE MUNICIPALITIES OR GAVE THE AUTHORITY MUNICIPALITIES AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO ADDRESS GOLF CARTS AND THE RULES AND
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REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED THAT PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO OPERATION AT NIGHT.AND THEN IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO ALLOW OPERATION AT NIGHT, WHAT SAFETY PROVISIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE IN PLACE. SO THEY DID OUTLINE THAT IF YOU WERE TO ALLOW WHAT WE CALL ACTUALLY LSB SO LOW VEHICLES OR GOLF CARTS IF YOU WERE TO THEM TO OPERATE AT NIGHT IN THE EVENING HOURS WHEN IT IS DARK AT THE VERY MINIMUM YOU WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE SEATBELTS FOR CHILDREN AND UNDER AND LIGHTS AND AGAIN THIS REITERATES THAT THAT ADAM AGAIN THIS IS AT A MINIMUM IF YOU WERE TO ALLOW AT NIGHT 12 AND UNDER MUST WEAR SOME SORT OF CHILD SOME SORT OF RESTRAINT AND THEN ALSO THE LIGHTS AND IN ADDITION IT DOES REQUIRE THAT IT BE ON ROADS 35 MILES AN HOUR OR LESS. AND THEN ALSO WHAT WE'VE DRAFTED AS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER OR TO MOVE FORWARD NOT ROUNDABOUTS THOSE ARE MORE TYPICALLY MORE TIGHT LANES IN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE INSURANCE. WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE BUT IS PULLED TOGETHER A MAP ON WHERE THOSE SPEED LIMITS ARE 35 MILES OR LESS.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE BUT YOU SEE IN YELLOW IS THE AREAS THAT WOULD NOT BE SO THAT'S WHERE IT IS TOO HIGH. IT'S OVER 35 MILES AN HOUR AND OR I DID LEAVE OUT THAN TWO LANES SO FOUR LANE ROADS SO IT KIND OF IT SHOWS WHERE IT MAY BE EXCLUDED IF YOU WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SORT OF ORDINANCE AND AGAIN IF WE CONTINUE THROUGH THIS WE CAN GET SOME BETTER VISUALS FOR YOU TO SEE THAT THIS IS JUST A BLOW UP OF THE OLD TOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT WHERE YOU DO SEE MORE GOLF CARTS JUST BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING LAWS AND REGULATIONS.
SO AGAIN THOSE THAT YELLOW IS WHERE THE SPEED LIMIT IS HIGHER BLUFFTON ROAD AND NO I'M SORRY BURTON CHURCH ROAD SO IT WOULD THAT THOSE ARE 35 MILES PER HOUR SO THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED THERE ON THE YELLOW YES I'M HOLLIDAY GO HERE THAT'S 35 MILES PER HOUR SORRY NEW LAWS OR LESS CORRECT. YES 30 FIBERGLASS. SO THE YELLOWS ARE ACTUALLY ALLOW THEIR ALLOWABLE. YES. AND A BLUE LOSE 30 MILES PER HOUR THEY'RE BROKEN UP BY MILES BUT EVERYTHING THAT'S COLOR CODED IS IT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDERNEATH 35 MILES AN HOUR. BUT WHILE YOU HAVE THIS MAP ON SCREEN, CAN I CLARIFY THAT FOR THE ROADS NOT IN THE TOWN. THIS IS NOT SO CURRENTLY LIKE I SAID BEAUFORT COUNTY AT THIS POINT THEY HAVE NOT BEGUN ANY DISCUSSIONS SO WE ARE ONLY ALLOWED PER THE STATE TO REGULATE WHAT'S WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION. SO IF IT IS WITHIN THE TOWN YES WE CAN WE CAN REGULATE IT SO GRAY WOULD NOT BE CORRECT. SO ANYTHING IN THAT GRAY SHADED AREA THAT'S OUTSIDE THE TOWN LIMITS OF HEATHER MASON BEFORE YOU KEEP GOING SO I DON'T I'VE READ IT INCORRECTLY THE SEATBELT I THOUGHT IT WAS MANDATED WHETHER IT WAS NINE OR NOT. YOU'RE SAYING ONLY AT NIGHTTIME I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK CHILDREN UNDER 12. MY UNDERSTANDING IN FOR 24 HOURS I'M SORRY 24 HOURS, 12 AND UNDER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT WORDING MEANS LIGHTS ARE ME THE WORDING DOES IT SAY IF THE LIGHTS ARE REQUIRED DAY AND NIGHT LIKE ALL VEHICLES MUST HAVE PROPER WORKING LIGHTS.
I DON'T NECESSARILY READ IT THAT WAY BUT I WOULD LOOK AT IT CLOSER I BELIEVE IT'S JUST DURING NIGHTTIME IF YOU THAT YOU NEED THE LIGHTS THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU DID MENTIONED LIKE I SAID IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT 16 YOU MUST BE 16 YEARS OF WITH A DRIVER'S LICENSE TO DRIVE YOU ALSO MUST HAVE INSURANCE AND BE REGISTERED AND THOSE ARE YOU CAN'T CHANGE PARTY AND A PERMIT YES A DMV PERMIT WHICH I WILL SAY THEY REQUIRED FOR IT.
I APPLIED THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO AND HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET SO THAT IS STATE YEAH THOSE ARE THINGS THAT AT THE MINIMUM WE CAN NOT ADDRESS AND CHANGE EXCEPT FOR.
IS IT TRUE THAT IT'S A UTV VERSUS AN LLC? IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE REGISTERED, CORRECT. THERE'S THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT VEHICLES THERE'S SO THERE'S VS THE LOW SPEED VEHICLES WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN A GOLF CART.
SO YOU HAVE A GOLF CART THE TRADITIONAL GOLF CART I BELIEVE IT REFERENCES THE SPEED LIMIT THAT IT CAN GO. I BELIEVE IT'S 20 MILES PER HOUR FROM THE START OR 25 MILES PER HOUR ON A PAVED ROAD. THEY GET VERY SPECIFIC WITH HOW THEY DEFINE THE LCB IS SOMETIMES WHAT YOU SEE IN BIGGER CITIES IS MORE URBAN AREAS THAT WILL ISSUE LIKE TRAFFIC TICKETS. THEY'RE LIKE KIND OF LIKE A BIGGER GOLF CART.
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NO OFF ROAD VEHICLES ARE THE UTV SO THOSE ARE THE UTILITY VEHICLES THE STATE IS ACTUALLY LOOKING TO REVISE THE ORDINANCE AND INCLUDE THAT AS A SEPARATE ISSUE.SO STAY TUNED FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT ONE. I'M ENVISION A MIDDLE GRADE UTVS LIKE YOUR FOUR WHEELERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO LOW SPEED VEHICLE WOULD IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN LIKE THE GYMS THAT DRIVE AROUND THERE LIKE THEY LOOK LIKE GOLF CARTS BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY LIKE THING FOR GOLF BAGS OR ANYTHING IN THE BACK.
THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE NOT DIFFERENT THAN A GOLF CART. THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE AND A LITTLE FASTER THEY GO THINK 35 MILES PER HOUR. BUT THE STATE CONSIDERS THEM TWO DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS AND THEN CONFIRMING WHEN YOU TALK THE AGE LIMIT SO IT'S NOT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT AND YOU CAN DRIVE WITH AN ADULT OR A LICENSE WHEN YOU GET THAT 15 AND A HALF YOU HAVE TO BE 16 YEARS OLD. YES.
THE WAY THE STATE LAW IS WRITTEN 16 YEARS OLD WITH A DRIVER'S LICENSE BUT YOU CAN DRIVE CAR WITH IT IF YOU'RE 15 YEARS OLD AND THERE'S EXACTLY ON THE LICENSE.
SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR A TRUCK WHICH CAN GO.
NO, NO EITHER AND I DON'T AND IT POSSIBLY COULD BE BECAUSE OF THE DRIVING AT NIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW JUST FROM EXPERIENCE MY SONS DRIVING AT BELOW THE AGE OF 16 I THINK IT MAY EVEN BE 18 THERE'S RESTRICTIONS ON YOUR LICENSE SO IT'S YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO AND FROM AND IF IT'S AT NIGHT SO I DON'T KNOW BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT EVEN IF WE MY UNDERSTANDING IS NO. OKAY.
BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WE'LL LOOK INTO IN YOUR PACKET THE STATE LAW IS VERY SPECIFIC TO SAY A PERSON A GOLF CART ON A PUBLIC HIGHWAY MUST BE AT LEAST 16 YEARS OF AGE, HOLD A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE AND HAVE IN HIS POSSESSION SO WE COULDN'T SAY EVEN IF YOU HAVE A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE AT 15 BECAUSE IT'S SPECIFIC TO AT LEAST 16 YEARS OLD AND LIKE I SAID, IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD. I'LL HAVE SOME LARGER MAPS WITH THE KEY A LITTLE BIT LARGER SO . WE CAN ALL READ THEM INCLUDING MYSELF AND LIKE SORRY GO TO COMMENT QUICK YOU MAY SAID JUST I'M NOT SURE IT WAS ILLUSTRATED BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS REGARDLESS WHETHER IT'S A 35 MILE AN HOUR ROAD IF IT'S A FOUR LANE ROAD YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ROAD, CORRECT? RIGHT. YOU CAN CROSS IT YOU CAN CROSS IT AND YOU ALSO STILL HAVE THE SAME AND I'M SORRY I LEFT OUT SOME OF THE EXISTING THINGS YOU ALSO STILL HAVE TO BE WITHIN FOUR MILES OF YOUR REGISTERED NO MORE THAN FOUR MILES FROM YOUR REGISTERED ADDRESS. SO MEANS BASICALLY THAT GOLF CARTS CAN TRAVEL DOWN MY RIVER ROAD UNTIL THEY GET TO THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE. IT TURNS FOUR LANES OR WHEREVER IT'S FOR IT'S AN HOUR OR WELL IN AT NIGHT OR IF IT'S THE PORTIONS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY GO DOWN TO BUCK ISLAND BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE SPEED LIMIT WHERE YOU ARE.
SO IT COULD BE COMPLICATED IF ONLY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON APPROVES CHANGES.
IT COULD IT COULD BECOME COMPLICATED. WE COULD WRITE MORE RESTRICTIONS OR REGULATIONS AS FAR AS WHERE THEY COULD GO AND WHAT THOSE ARE RIGHT NOW WE JUST WANTED TO GO THROUGH HERE'S WHAT THE STATE LAW DOES ADDRESS AS AS THEY'RE AT LEAST GIVING THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS THE ABILITY ADDRESS NIGHTTIME DRIVING OF GOLF CARTS.
SO LIKE I SAID, JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED US TO MONITOR CONTINUE TO REVIEW OR WE DID PUT TOGETHER WITH THE HELP OF THE TOWN ATTORNEYS A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR TO START THINKING ABOUT THEIR PIECES AND PARTS IN THERE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OR AGAIN FURTHER REVIEW. EVERYBODY'S GOT A QUESTION ON THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS LISTED AS A WORKSHOP ITEM, I WOULD HOPE THAT COUNCIL WOULD SUPPORT ME AND AND LET'S NOT MAKE ANY DECISION ON THIS UNTIL WE CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN HAVE INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC SO KNOW I'M INTERESTED. SO WHAT WOULD IT HURT YOU? YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE LIKE A TEMPLATE THAT WE CAN AT AND SEE WHAT CHANGES OR IN YOUR NOT THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO I MEAN TO HAVE SOMETHING ON PAPER. YEAH.
IN THE PACKET IS A IS A VERY SIMPLE ORDINANCE DRAFT ORDINANCE IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER I COULD PULL UP PULL IT UP NOW OR WE COULD A SEPARATE WORKSHOP AS COUNCILMAN SUGGESTED IT IT'S YOUR PREFERENCE WE HAVE STRATEGIC PLANNING IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS
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IT'S GOING TO BE HERE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER SO WE CAN CAN YOU CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND BRING THAT BACK THEN OR DO ANOTHER IT IN A DIFFERENT AUDIENCE? I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR BECAUSE IT IS COMPLICATED BUT FOR CLARITY THERE ARE ITEMS THAT WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT ARE STATE MANDATED THE INSURANCE THE DMV PERMIT SEATBELTS FOR TOILETING UNDER CHILD CARE RESTRAINT IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO FIT IN A SEATBELT. SO THE CHILD CARE RESTRAINT IS NOT PART OF STATE LAW.IT'S NOT NO, NO. IT JUST SAYS THAT CHILD 12 AND UNDER HAS TO HAVE A SEATBELT ON AND THAT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T PUT A YOU KNOW THAT IS NOT DEFINED IN STATE LAW.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT AND I AGREE TOTALLY I SEE SOME DANGEROUS STUFF GOING ON OUT THERE AND CANNOT ADDRESS IT BEFORE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER I THINK WOULD BE BAD ON ON US WHEN WE NEED SOME I'M ALL FOR GOLF CARTS I'M ALL FOR EVERYBODY GOING WHERE THEY WANT TO AND ALL THAT. I TOTALLY SUPPORT IT PERSONALLY WE HAVE THREE GOLF CARTS AND A BUNCH OF KIDS BUT WE NEED SOME RULES AND WE NEED OUR RULES TO BE BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S EVERYONE IS NOT ADHERING TO LEVEL OF SAFETY THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE ENFORCING. OKAY. AND CAN YOU BREAK IT DOWN? WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS NIGHTTIME AND NIGHTTIME AND JUST ANY ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL SAFETY REGULATIONS AND OR SPECIFIC LOCATIONS LIKE WE REFERENCED THE FOUR LANE ROADS WE REFERENCED TRAFFIC CIRCLES. THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE THINGS THAT WE REALLY HAVE A SAY OVER IN MY UNDERSTANDING IS YES AND CHILD RESTRAINTS RIGHT. WHICH WOULD BE A SAFETY FEATURE SO AND NIGHTTIME DRIVING SO SOME CITIES HAVE TRIED TO DEFINE WHAT NIGHTTIME DRIVING IS YOU KNOW DO WE WANT FROM 7:00 IN THE WINTER TO 7:00 IN THE MORNING OR DO WE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE 11:00 AT NIGHT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DID IT JUST YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, IT'S ANOTHER OPTION. IT DOES THERE'S WHAT THE STATE HAS DONE AND I WILL LET ATTORNEY JERRY FINGER TELL ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS BUT WHAT THE WHAT THE STATE HAS DONE WITH THIS LAW AS BRIEF AS IT IS VERSUS PREVIOUS ORDINANCES AT LEAST GIVEN YOU ALL AS A TOWN THE AUTHORITY TO FURTHER RESTRICT OR REGULATE GOLF CARTS WHICH WAS NOT AN OPTION IN THE PAST. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN ANYTHING IN TERMS OF TABLE AND TO HAVE A WORKSHOP BUT I ALSO FEEL THAT TO ME OR TO THE POINT IS IS SOMETHING OF GRAVE CONCERN BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF HAZARDOUS OPERATION GOING ON CURRENTLY WITH GOLF CARTS AND I THINK IF WE HAVE A WORKSHOP IT'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN GO THROUGH AND PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE TO RESIDENTS WITH GOLF CARTS IN TERMS OF WHAT THESE UPDATES FROM THE STATE MEAN. ALSO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE. I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE A GUIDELINE AND ALSO MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE CLEAR FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND JUST AS WE CAN PUT IN SAFEGUARDS FOR THEM AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH IT AND JUST LET IT BE A FREE FOR ALL I DON'T THINK IS AT ANYONE'S ADVANTAGE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT OUR ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS CAN ENFORCE BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE IS WASTED USELESS YOU DON'T HAVE ENFORCEMENT OF IT I'M ALL FOR PLANNING A WORKSHOP WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
GET ALL THE AND OKAY IT OUT AND FIGURING OUT WHAT'S BEST FOR EVERYONE OKAY SO SO SO ON THE WORKSHOP WOULD YOU ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THE SEPTEMBER 9TH COUNCIL MEETING WHICH IS OUR NEXT ONE? WE CAN DO A WORKSHOP RIGHT BEFORE THAT SAY LIKE 4:00 PEOPLE CAN COME AND LEAD UP RIGHT INTO OR WOULD YOU RATHER US DO SOMETHING BEFORE THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING? I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 4:00 BUT WE'RE ASKING THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO COME. THAT'S THE ONLY IDEA. SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GET YOUR INPUT IS DO YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE IT BE BETWEEN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND A SEPARATE MEETING AND HOW YOU WANT US TO PROCEED? WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK THE NEXT QUARTERLY WORKSHOPS NOT TILL OCTOBER . I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT FOR THEM. I MEAN I THINK BEFORE COUNCIL I MEAN BEFORE THE NEXT QUARTERLY MEETING IN OCTOBER MEETINGS IT ANYWAY SO CORRECT YOU KNOW THE SOONER WE FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO DO AND GET IT STARTED I THINK THE BETTER OFF FOR EVERYONE.
BUT WE'LL HAVE MARSHA REACH OUT TO YOU AND WE'LL LOOK FOR LIKE AT 6:00 TIME TO SCHEDULE ONE.
WE HAVE TO DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE GET WORD OUT. YEAH.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL WORK. WE'RE WORKING ON A SCHEDULING A WORKSHOP BEFORE THE QUARTERLY WORKSHOP EDUCATE MORE EDUCATION ON DETAILS AS FAR AS WHAT IS IN ORDINANCE AND LAW NOW WHAT THE
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STATE SAYS WE CANNOT CHANGE AND ALTER AND THEN WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO CHANGE PER THAT LAW AND THEN SOME AT LEAST SOME TALKING OF SAFETY SAFETY FEATURES, LAP BELTS, CHILD RESTRAINTS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE LIGHTS AND DRIVING AT NIGHT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT OKAY WE'LL DO IT AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE GOOD BATTERIES. YES AND BATTERIES LONG LASTING BATTERIES. I BE ALONG OKAY I'M NEXT WE'RE GOING TO THIS IS WORKSHOP AS WELL CONSIDERATION AND DIRECTION FOR POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS TO TOWN OF BLUFFTON CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 23 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDER ARTICLE FIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ON ACCESSORY BUILDINGS AND I CAN'T YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL AND OBVIOUSLY FOR THESE GOLF CARTS WE NEED A PLACE TO PUT THEM SO WE'LL START TALKING ABOUT SOME CARPORTS. SO WE HAD AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP THIS HAS BEEN BEFORE ALREADY CONCERNS ABOUT DEALING WITH CARPORTS AND HOW THEY ARE REGULATED IN THE YOUDO SO SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE EURO IN 2011 CARPORTS THAT ARE AT LEAST 121 SQUARE FEET ARE CLASSIFIED AS A CARRIAGE HOUSE AND IT FALLS UNDER THAT CARRIAGE HOUSE BUILDING TYPE WHICH DOES NOT EXCEED A MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 1200 AND A FOOTPRINT OF 800 SQUARE FEET AND HAS DESIGN GUIDELINES. SO WE HELD SOME WORKSHOPS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AS AS PLANNING COMMISSION THEY RAISED A BUNCH OF CONCERNS AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF GLOSS OVER THESE AND LET YOU GUYS READ THROUGH THEM.SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT PREFABRICATED CARPORTS NOT MEETING OUR OUR STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CODE NEED TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN A CARRIAGE AND A CARPORT AND THEN TO CLEAR DEFINITION THE CARPORT AS NEEDED WHAT IT'S DESIGNED, HOW IT'S ENCLOSED YOU KNOW, SECRETARY STRUCTURE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT WERE ALL BROUGHT UP IN THE END I DON'T THINK THE THE EITHER THE HPC OR THE PC HAD A TRUE RECOMMENDATION.
WE DID THAT IN OCTOBER NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR THEN THIS PAST YEAR EXCUSE ME THIS PAST APRIL WE CAME IN FRONT OF YOU WANTED SOME DIRECTION AS TO HOW WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND I TOOK A LOT OF TOOK A LOT OF NOTES FROM YOU GUYS SUMMARIZED THAT AND PROVIDED SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IN PACKET BUT REALLY KIND OF OVERALL INTENT COMMON PRACTICALITY I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE REALLY QUICKLY SHOULD BE TREATED AS SEPARATE BUILDING CLASSIFICATIONS SOME OF THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE SENSITIVE SUPPORTIVE TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ONE IS SOME APPROPRIATE SCALE SIZE HEIGHT YOU KNOW THE VISUAL DIVERSITY YOU KNOW NOT UNIFORM YOU KNOW SOME SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM REGULATE THEM TO RESIDENTIAL USES ONLY, FUNCTION WITH SPACE FOR FOR TWO VEHICLES A BOAT AND OR A GOLF CART THAT WAS THE DESCRIPTION SOME LIMITED UTILITIES WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THEM FOR ACCESS AND ORIENTATION YOU DID NOT LIKE THE HAVE TO TURN TO THE SIDE ONE TO BE ABLE TO GO STRAIGHT IN AND THEN ALSO FOR THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION YOU WANTED TO BE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE VARIOUS LOT SIZES CONFIGURATIONS DEALING X SO CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS HURRICANE RESISTANT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ALLOWED FOR THE PREFAB STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE BUT ESTABLISHED MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR NEW ONES.
I'VE TALKED ABOUT TREE PRESERVATION MAKING SURE THEY'RE NOT CUTTING DOWN A BUNCH OF TREES JUST TO PUT A CARPORT IN AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THEIR THE RELEVANT BUILDING CODES ARE BEING MET. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THEN THE NEXT STEPS. SO YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT THIS MIGHT BE AN ITEM IF YOU'RE IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ONE TO PIGGYBACK ON FOR THE GOLF CART SO WE COULD HAVE THAT AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME TO GET THAT INPUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR .
SO WE TALKED ABOUT CARPORTS PRE 2011 THEY WERE TYPICALLY SMALLER JUST THE PREFAB SIZE JUST TO COVER THE BOATS. MOST OF THEM ARE NONCONFORMING .
THEN POST 2011 THAT'S WHEN THE IDEA WAS OR THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WAS ESTABLISHED AND THAT'S WHERE THE CARPORTS WERE THEN DEFINED AS THAT CARRIAGE HOUSE.
SO IT KIND OF LUMPED IT INTO THAT BUILDING TYPE AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN UP ALREADY HAVE AN APPROVED CARRIAGE HOUSE THAT THEY COULDN'T THEN ADD A SECOND ONE. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A CARRIAGE HOUSE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE YOU THEN COULD NOT HAVE A CARPORT AS WELL. SO SOME OF THE THINGS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING DOING AND IS ONE OF THEM IS DEALING WITH A LOT COVERAGE, A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT LIMITS AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA THAT
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YOU WOULD HAVE ON YOUR PROPERTY. SO WE WOULD ALLOW FOR YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE ON YOUR LOT AND THEN AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON YOUR LOT OR YOUR CARRIAGE HOUSE AND THEN YOU WANTED TO PUT A CARPORT WE WOULD MAKE SURE NUMBER ONE IS THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE ON YOUR PROPERTY SO THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT OVER OVERBUILDING YOUR LOT THAT HELPS FOR A LOT OF REASONS PROVIDES OPEN SPACE IT ALLOWS FOR TREES TO TO GROW AND ALLOWS FOR STORMWATER TO PENETRATE THE GROUND SO THIS MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE WILL HELP BALANCE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT WITH OPEN SPACES SO TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN EXERCISE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO WHEN WE SAY WHAT IS MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE I TOOK A THIS IS A HOME OVER IN THE STOCK FARM COMMUNITY THE LOT ITSELF IS ALMOST 17,000 SQUARE FEET AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IS THAT WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 30% COVERAGE AND YOU CAN JUST SEE BASED OFF OF A LOT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE SO THIS LOT WOULD BE ABLE TO A CARPORT ON THAT THEY'D HAVE AMPLE SPACE IN ORDER TO PUT ON THERE THEN I KIND OF TOOK A LOT THAT'S OVER THE CORNER OF DUBOS AND LAWRENCE STREET WHERE.THE LOT ITSELF IS LESS THAN 5000 SQUARE FEET. YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE FOOTPRINT AT ALMOST 2800 FOR THE CARRIAGE HOUSE, THE DRIVEWAY AND SIDEWALKS ALL THAT EQUATES UP TO 58%. NOW WHAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED IS A MAXIMUM LOT SIZE SINCE THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE WITH A MAXIMUM LIGHT COVERAGE OF 70%.
SO TECHNICALLY THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL ABOUT 12% OF THE LOT THAT COULD BE USED FOR ADDITIONAL COVERAGE. HOWEVER, BASED ON THIS CONFIGURATION THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT A CARPORT ON THAT PLOT. SO THAT'S FOR THE MAXIMUM LOCK COVERS THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AND THEN THE NEXT WAS THE ACTUAL PROPOSED EDITS.
SO THE CONSIDERATION CREATING THAT NEW BUILDING TYPE SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A NEW BUILDING TYPE. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IT WOULD BE REGULATED TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ONLY AND AGAIN IT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXISTING PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE ON YOUR LOT SO YOU CAN'T IF YOU HAVE A VACANT LOT YOU CANNOT GO AND PUT A CARPORT ON THAT LOT BY ITSELF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO HAVE A CARPORT NO DIFFERENT FROM A CARRIAGE HOUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IN ORDER HAVE A CARRIAGE HOUSE ON YOUR LOT MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT. I FIGURED IF YOU TAKE PARKING SPACES OF OF A NINE BY 18 PARKING SPACE SO TWO OF THOSE PLUS AN ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR LIKE A BOAT OR A BOAT WOULD BE PARKED IN AND A GOLF CART THAT EQUATES UP ABOUT 600 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT AND SO THAT WAY TO DEPEND ON THE CONFIGURATION YOU COULD POTENTIALLY GET TWO CARS, A BOAT AND A GOLF CART UNDERNEATH THAT. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HEIGHT. SO ONE OF OUR CONCERNS IS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO ALLOW CARPORTS THAT ARE GOING TO OVERPOWER A STRUCTURE.
SO IF HAVE A SMALL COTTAGE HOUSE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU KNOW, YOU WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE A VERY LARGE CARPORT THAT WAS BEHIND THE HOUSE THAT WOULD OVERPOWER THE HOUSE ITSELF. SO IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE STOREY PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE YOU COULD GO NO TALLER THAN THAT SINGLE STOREY PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IF YOU HAD A TWO STOREY PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU CAN GO NO TALLER THAN 18 FEET AND A PICKET 18 FEET IS THAT IF YOU IF YOU DRIVE A A A TRAILER BOAT OR AN RV MOST BRIDGES IN THE UNITED STATES ALLOW FOR A CLEARANCE OF 18 FEET SO YOU CAN GET YOU CAN GET UNDER A BRIDGE THEN 18 FEET IS SUFFICIENT FOR WHAT YOU ARE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PARK AGAIN IF YOU HAVE THAT TWO STOREY STRUCTURE YOU CAN ONLY GO UP TO 18 FEET. YOU MIGHT NOT NEED 18 FEET BUT THAT'S IS AS HIGH AS YOU'D BE ON THAT 18 FOOT CONSIDERED FROM THE RIDGE CAP THAT'S WE HAVEN'T GONE THAT FAR SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL FLUSH OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT MOST LIKELY WHAT WE CAN DO IS AS THE PLATE BUT THEN WE'LL HAVE FILL FILL FIGURE OUT FROM A PITCHED ROOF STANDPOINT AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE HPC WILL COME INTO PLAY TO HELP A CONFIGURATION WE TALKED ABOUT NO SOLID WALLS SO THERE WOULD BE NO SOLID WALLS ALLOWED FOR THIS NO MORE THAN TWO SIDES THAT COULD BE ENCLOSED WITH LOUVERED OR HORIZONTAL PANELS. SO WHEN WE SAY NO SOLID WALLS AND THEN UNDER IT SAYS NO MORE THAN TWO SIDES MAYBE ENCLOSED ENCLOSED WITH LOUVERED SO STILL HAS THAT HAS AN OPENING TO IT.
YEAH I BELIEVE THAT DID COME FROM COUNSEL. YES SIR.
YES WE TALKED ABOUT LIMITED POWER. YOU REFERRED TO MAKING SURE LIKE YOU GOT TO HAVE A LIGHT IN THIS THING SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THEN WE SAID
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NO INTERNAL PLUMBING. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A SPIGOT THAT WAS NEXT TO IT OR YOU KNOW IT'S CLOSE BY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR IF YOU HAVE A BOAT YOU JUST GOT IT OFF. YOU GOT TO WASH IT OUT SO BUT THE INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE INTERNAL PLUMBING. THE CONCERNS FROM STAFF IS ONCE YOU START HAVING INTERNAL PLUMBING YOU START HAVING SINKS.YOU HAVE TOILETS, WALLS COULD BE ENCLOSED IN AND BEFORE YOU KNOW IT YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE THAT IS BEING PROVIDED. WE TALKED ABOUT THE PLACEMENT THAT THE IT'S NEAR THE REAR THE LOT OR AT A MINIMUM 20 FEET BEHIND THE FRONT PLAIN OF THE PRINCIPAL. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY REQUIRE IF YOU HAVE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IT HAS TO BE PLACED AT LEAST 20 FEET BEHIND THE FRONT PLANE, SORT OF THE FRONT OF HOUSE. YOUR STRUCTURE FOR YOUR DRIVEWAY HAS TO BE PUSHED AT LEAST 20 FEET FORWARD TO BE PLACED THERE WITH OUR FORM BASED CODE .
THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IS THE FOCAL AND THEN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ARE KIND OF SET BACK A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR CARE RIGHT NOW. YES, IT WAS THE CARPORT 20 FEET TO ME IS EXCESSIVE IT WAS THE CARPORT BECAUSE THE CARPORT MEANS THAT YOU WANT TO PARK THE CAR SO THEY CAN GO INTO THE HOUSE. SO 2020 FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FROM THE FRONT THE HOUSE OR BACK YEAH THE BACK YEAH FROM THE FROM THE THE FRONT POINT OF THE HOUSE SO WHEREVER THE FRONT CORNER SO THE FRONT CORNER OF THE HOUSE YOU GO BACK 20 FEET AND THEN THAT'S WHERE THEY THINK YOU CAN PLACE IT. OKAY. AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT NO MORE THAN ONE CARPORT ALLOWED LOT SO WITH THAT IF TOWN COUNCIL AGREES WITH THESE PROPOSED CHANGES WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING DOING IS THEN TAKE THIS TO A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AS WELL AS PLANNING COMMISSION AS WORKSHOP ITEMS BECAUSE I NEEDED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK YOU TO KIND OF SET THE PATH THAT WE WANTED TO GO DOWN WHAT WE CAN DO NOW HAVE THESE TWO GROUPS BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT AND FINE TUNE IT JUST LIKE THAT WITH THE PITCHED ROOFS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO LOOK INTO AND I WOULD WANT GUIDANCE FROM OUR OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION MEMBERS IN ORDER TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, ACCURATE FEEDBACK.
SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE BRING THESE TWO ITEMS IN FRONT OF THOSE TWO GROUPS AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO ULTIMATELY WE GO TO A PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A RECOMMENDATION THEN BACK TO YOU AS A FIRST AND SECOND READING. HOWEVER, BASED OFF WHAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT ABOUT THE GOLF, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WISH WE COULD WE COULD ADD THIS ITEM ON FOR A FOR AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO TO TO TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL I WOULD DO EVERYTHING YOU'VE JUST SAID TO US WITH ALL OF THE NOTES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU TOOK FROM THIS COUNCIL AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY OPPOSITION TO WHAT YOU JUST WENT THROUGH I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO LET IT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THE COMMITTEES WE CAN ALWAYS DO A WORKSHOP IF NECESSARY BUT I THINK TO GO THROUGH THOSE COMMITTEES MAY FLUSH OUT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL TO BE ON TO TO REVIEW YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES BACK THROUGH OKAY THAT'S JUST ME YOU KNOW DON'T HAVE THE OTHERS WELL I MEAN NO MATTER WHAT WE DO IT'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THEM RIGHT YOU KNOW AND THEY DEAL WITH EVERY DAY OR THIS TYPE OF STUFF SO I'M OKAY WITH LETTING THEM LETTING THEM GRAB IT AND GET THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. WE DON'T HAVE TIME LISTEN TO THEM BUT WE WANT TO HEAR THE CORRECT CORRECTIONS ARE IN ON THAT TOO. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE FLOORING YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN HAVE A CONCRETE SLAB.
YES WE CAN THAT I WOULD ASSUME YES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED I WOULD THINK YES BUT IT WOULD BE CLEANER AND BETTER AND IF YOU COULD WE CAN WE CAN PROVIDE SOME LIKE DESIGN LIKE GUIDELINES AND JUST YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO YOU COULD DO THAT GREAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU HAVE TO DO IT BUT I WANTED TO POUR CONCRETE THEN YES YOU'RE ALLOWED. OKAY I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS IS ANYTHING NOT IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? THIS IS JUST THIS THAT IS NOT IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WELL, THIS IS THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. OKAY THANK YOU. MY ONLY OTHER COMMENT AND I DO REALLY LIKE THE PERCENTAGE LOT COVERAGE BECAUSE I DO THINK IT DOES PROTECT IT OR GREENSPACE THE RUNOFF AND PREVENT OVERCROWDING AND IT OBVIOUSLY MAKES LOT OF SENSE.
I WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER THAT IF THE A LOT SIZE AND IT IS UNDER A PERCENTAGE LOT
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COVERAGE I THINK WE SHOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND US ALLOWING FOR TWO CARPORTS I THINK THERE ARE SOME LOTS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT ARE LARGE THAT PEOPLE COULD IF THEY WANTED TO AND GET A PRIMARY HOUSE AND AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IN A CARPORT AND INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS I THINK GIVING THEM ONE MORE CARPORT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED EVEN MORE THAN ONE ON A LOT A LOT IT'S A LOT SIZE ALLOWS FOR IT AND IT IS UNDER THE PERCENTAGE LOT YOU GOT TO REMEMBER THAT PERCENTAGE OF COVERAGE IS GOING TO MAXIMUM OUT IT IS EITHER 50, 60 OR 70%.SO MOST ARE GOING TO MAX OUT OF THAT BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN LOTS THAT ARE LARGE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ABOUT AN ACRE AND I ONLY HAVE ONE HOUSE ON IT.
SOME OF THOSE CAN EVEN HAVE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN ATTACHED GARAGE AND I WE SHOULD CONSIDER AGAIN IF IT IS UNDER THE PERCENTAGE LOT COVERAGE ALLOWING THEM TO TECHNICALLY SUBDIVIDE A LOT OF THESE LOTS FOR THE PRIMARY AND AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND A CARPORT RIGHT IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO AGAIN IT'S VERY FEW BUT THERE ARE SOME IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WOULD THAT OR THAT SIZE. I DON'T HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT ONE BUT I GET THAT MANY A LOT SO I WOULD SAY LET IT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
LET THE QUESTION BE ASKED OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AND IF FEEDBACK SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE'LL DO SOME SOME RESEARCH ON USING OUR GUYS TO DETERMINE LIKE WHAT LOTS LIKE HOW MANY LOTS OUT THERE AND THEN FIND THAT THRESHOLD OF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER AS A LARGE LOT OBVIOUSLY RIVERFRONT EDGE LOTS THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE AT AN ACRE SOME OF THEM ARE LESS THAN THAT BUT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK INTO AND THEN PUT THAT KIND OF AS AN ASTERISK SAYS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, TOWN COUNCIL IS IS CONSIDERING THAT THE TWO CARPORTS BASED OFF OF THE THE LARGER LOTS AND THEN YOU KNOW JUST MAKING SURE THAT DIDN'T YOU KNOW GO OVER THAT MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE BECAUSE ON THAT I THINK YOU BRING UP ONE THAT CURRENTLY IF A HOUSE HAS A CARPORT ATTACHED TO WOULD BE AND LET'S SAY THEY'RE ALREADY MAXED OUT THEY'RE ONE OR TWO IF YOU'RE IN THE RIVER DISTRICT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IF THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A CARPORT HATCH NOW THEY COULD NOT DO ANOTHER ONE. CORRECT. AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW HOMES THAT ALREADY HAVE THAT ONE CARPORT AGAIN ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE AND THE CARPORT YOU CAN'T PUT A BOAT ON IT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN IF YOU GOT A LEMON SIZE BOAT LIKE 11 OR 25 FOOT BOAT ON TOP. YEAH. SO YOU THE GARAGE SO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE EVEN IF THEY A CAR GARAGE ATTACHED TO NEXT QUESTION FOR YOU IS THAT THIS ONLY PERTAINS TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT YES SIR. SO THE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SUCH AS COUNTY ROAD AND BACK COLLINS EVANSVILLE AREA WHAT'S THE RULE FOR THEM IS THIS ARE ALLOWED THERE THEY'RE ALLOWED YES THERE ARE REALLY ALLOWED YES AND THERE'S NO THERE'S NO REGULATIONS ON THEM. IS THERE A LIMIT NO THAT KIND OF MAKES THEM OKAY.
SO ARE WE IN AGREEMENTS TO LET THEM LOOK AT IT AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS? YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD FOR WE HAD OUR
[IX. PUBLIC HEARING & FINAL READING]
MARCHING ORDERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.THANK YOU. OKAY. UP NEXT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING ON. A REQUEST BY LIVE WILL LIVE WELL TERRACE WALTER COOPER GROUP WITH AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER MEMORIAL HOSPITAL FOR THE 100% AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT TO BE KNOWN AS LIVE WELL TERRACE LOCATED AT 335 BUCKWALTER PARKWAY AND IDENTIFIED AS COUNTY TAX MAG MAP NUMBER ARE 6100300007120000. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING.
MR. KEVIN ECKHARDT YES SIR. THIS A PUBLIC HEARING? YES.
SO I'M GOING TO CALL PUBLIC FIRST CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM A 9/2 CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THIRD CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT JUST PUBLIC HEARINGS PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED FOR PUBLIC HEARING NOW IT'S YOUR TURN RIGHT.
THANK YOU, SIR. THERE ARE NO CHANGES FROM FIRST READING SO I DO HAVE THE MOTIONS HERE FOR IF YOU SO CHOOSE YOU CAN JUST MAKE A STATEMENT OF AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL I HAVE A QUESTION AND THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IS
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ANY PART OF THIS PROPERTY I MEAN IS THIS SUBJECT TO OUR WETLAND ORDINANCE THAT WE RECENTLY PASSED? ALL PROPERTIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE WETLAND ORDINANCE.YES. SO DO YOU KNOW IF ANY IF THIS PROPERTY HAS A WETLAND ON IT? THERE ARE NO WETLANDS ON THIS AND THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY IS DEEDED WITH A 50 FOOT WETLAND BUFFER ON IT ALREADY AND YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING MORE COMMENTS IF YOUR COUNCIL WOULD LIKE I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS SO THE TOWN CURRENTLY 115 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WE OWN AND A BANK FROM WE WOULD BE TRANSFERRING 60 OF THOSE 115 TO MEMORIAL HOSPITAL PART OF THIS SO WE WOULD HAVE 55 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN OUR BANK. CORRECT.
AND OUR BANK IS OUR MOTION. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION MAYOR FOR THE FIRST WENT ON THE SCREEN AS THE SCREEN APPROVING THE ACQUISITION OF THIS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THE SECOND CIRCUIT AND IT WAS THAT I SAY I I ALL RIGHT HERE'S MOTION A MOTION FOR THE SECOND ARTICLE HERE I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOTION AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN THERE A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR I UNANIMOUS AND THEN HERE'S THE LAST MOTION HAVE THE THIRD ONE HERE WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION FOR OUR MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOTION AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN THERE A SECOND VACANT ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR I KNOW THAT RIGHT YOU WERE ON I RIGHT BRIDGE THANK YOU THANK YOU OKAY MR. JONES OKAY. UP NEXT WE HAVE FOUR MORE ITEMS.
[X. FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS]
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 21 EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO DEFINE A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY DECLARATION AND TERMINATION AUTHORITY AND POWERS AND ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN'S EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THIS SHOULD BE FIRST READING MR. ESTES FARON COUNCIL YOU HAVE FRONT OF YOU AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT A UPDATED SECTION OR CHAPTER TWO AND 21 OF THE TOWN CODE AS IT RELATES TO THE DECLARATION OF LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCIES. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.SO THE TOWN ADOPTED CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE SEVEN OF OUR CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN 2008 AND THEN WE ADOPTED 21 THAT DOES EMERGENCY PERMITTING PROCEDURES IN 2009 THESE REMAINED IN PLACE UNTIL 2023 WHEN WE COMBINE THEM INTO CHAPTER 21 WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND AS EMERGENCIES EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT REMAIN IN CHAPTER.
HOWEVER AFTER THE AMENDMENTS IN 2023 CHAPTERS TWO AND 21 UP UNTIL WE MADE THAT CHANGE AND SINCE WE MADE THAT CHANGE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHAT CLASSIFIES AS EMERGENCY WITH THE TOWN HOW EMERGENCY IS DECLARED EXTENDED, AMENDED OR TERMINATED THE ROLES OF THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL DURING EMERGENCY THE TOWN MANAGER OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER AS WELL AS OTHER STAFF ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET INTO THE RECOVERY PROCEDURES AND PERMITTING IT ALSO ADDRESSES REGULATIONS THAT ARE SUSPENDED AND THE AUTHORITY THAT MAY BE GRANTED DURING AN EMERGENCY.
WE ALSO TALK ABOUT AGAIN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER HAPPENS WITH INSPECTIONS, PERMITS AND EVERYTHING AS WE GET INTO RECOVERY. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS RAISED TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND MYSELF ABOUT THE DECLARATION PROCESS STATE LAW RELATED TO EMERGENCIES AND RECOMMEND AND ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THERE MAY BE TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN CODE WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGENCY PROCEDURES SO LEGAL COMPLETED THIS THE RESEARCH THEY LOOKED INTO WHAT STATE LAW SAYS ANY CASE LAW THAT WAS OUT THERE ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS THEY LOOKED AT OTHER MANAGER FORMS OF GOVERNMENT AND HOW THEY ADDRESS EMERGENCIES. THEY ALSO REVIEWED OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR ANY AMENDMENTS THAT WE MIGHT WANT MAKE AND THEY ALSO PREPARED SOME RECOMMENDED AMENDMENTS AND REVIEWED THOSE WITH AND THEN IN TOWN COUNCIL AS WELL AND ASKED FOR ANY FEEDBACK AND EDITS FROM COUNCIL. SO THESE SUMMED IT UP MUCH BETTER THAN I COULD HAVE BUT SO
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AS WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION OF WHAT'S IN THERE THERE ARE SOME PROPOSED EDITS SO WOULD HAPPEN IS WE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WOULD BE REMOVED FROM CHAPTER TWO AND MOVED TO CHAPTER 21. WITH THAT WE WOULD MAKE ONE CHANGE CHAPTER TWO WHICH IS TO ADDRESS LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY PROCUREMENTS AND THOSE ARE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENTS TAKE PLACE WHENEVER LIKE DURING A HURRICANE IF WE NEED TO PROCURE THE BRUSH REMOVAL OR WE NEED TO PROCURE SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND FEED OR WE NEED TO BUY CARTS, WE NEED TO BUY MERGE THOSE ARE EMERGENCY PROCUREMENTS TO TAKE PLACE LOT OF THOSE WE HAVE CONTRACTS FOR BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THINGS THAT COME UP THAT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE. WHAT IT DOES IS IT OUTLINES IN THERE THAT WE ARE BRINGING THOSE TO YOU WITHIN 90 DAYS AFTER THE CIVIL EMERGENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE MOVING FORWARD ON ANY FUTURE EMERGENCIES. IN OTHER WORDS, I'LL REVIEW AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THAT WAS DONE WHEN WE GET INTO CHAPTER 21 THAT'S WHEN IT DEFINES WHAT A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY IS AND I PUT THE DEFINITION UNDERNEATH THERE SOME OF THE WHAT'S IN THERE AND I'LL LET YOU ALL READ THAT THEN ALSO TALKS ABOUT HOW IT REQUIRES TOWN COUNCIL TO APPROVE A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY PRIOR TO THE DECLARATION TO EMERGENCY MEETING WHEN POSSIBLE THE GOAL YOU CAN SEE THE WHAT'S IN THE CODE THERE AND I'LL POINT OUT THAT IT SAYS THE GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY SHALL NOT MUST BY SAYS SHALL MAKE THEIR BEST EFFORT TO CONVENE A QUORUM OF COUNCIL IN ORDER TO DECLARE A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY.AND AS IT IS FOR AN EMERGENCY IT DOES GIVE IN WRITING A CHANCE FOR YOU ALL TO DO SO BY EITHER EMAIL OR TEXT MESSAGING BECAUSE WE KNOW IF THERE'S A TORNADO THAT COMES THROUGH OR LIKE DURING HALLOWEEN AND THERE WERE TREES ON THE ROAD WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET YOU ALL IN PERSON SO IT ALLOWS US TO COMMUNICATE ELECTRONICALLY GET THAT SO BUT AT A MINIMUM THE GOAL IS TO GET ALL THE COUNCIL CONVENED TO APPROVE THE DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY.
IT ALSO OUTLINES ACTION SHOULD A QUORUM NOT BE PRESENT OR BE POSSIBLE.
SO IF WE CAN'T GET EVERYBODY AND THERE'S BEEN AN EMERGENCY AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AFTER 2 HOURS SHOULD NOT THAT NOT BE ABLE TO HAPPEN THEN THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY WHETHER THAT'S THE MAYOR OR THE MAYOR PRO TEM IN HIS ABSENCE OR HOWEVER IT FALLS OUT DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE TIME AND SO FOR EXAMPLE IF WE HAVE I USE AGAIN EXAMPLE A TORNADO AND WE CAN'T GET THE MAYOR WE CAN'T GET THE MAYOR PRO TEM GO TO THE NEXT SENIOR PERSON ON COUNCIL WHOEVER IS FILLING ROLE AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECLARE THE EMERGENCY.
THE GOAL IS THEN TO PULL COUNCIL TOGETHER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AT A MINIMUM NO MORE THAN AT A MAXIMUM OF NO MORE THAN 48 HOURS. SO IF WE CAN CONVENE EVERYBODY 30 MINUTES AFTER WE MAKE THE DECLARATION WE'LL WE'LL WORKING TO GET YOU TOGETHER SO WE CAN THEN FORMALIZE THAT DECLARATION GOVERNING AUTHORITY IS DEFINED AS MAYOR AND MAYOR PRO TEM THEN MOST SENIOR COUNCIL MEMBER DIRECT SO AGAIN WE'LL WORK WITH WHO WE CAN GET DEPENDING WHAT THE EMERGENCY IS AS IT SAYS TOWN TO TOWN COUNCIL WOULD BE CONVENED AS NEEDED AFTER TO EITHER AMEND, EXTEND OR TERMINATE GIVE FOR EXAMPLE COVERED WE MET MANY TIMES OR I WAS I CAME IN AT THE END OF THAT BUT DURING THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION YOU MET ON A REGULAR BASIS AND HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AMENDING IT OR IT OR THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS YOU WANTED TO PUT IN PLACE THAT COULD HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE A HURRICANE THAT COMES THROUGH THIS SEVERE WE MAY WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXTEND IT OR WE MAY AMEND IT BY SAYING YOU CAN MOVE IN THESE AREAS BUT NOT IN THESE BECAUSE HAVEN'T CLEARED DEBRIS SO BUT WE WOULD STILL PULL TOWN COUNCIL TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE AMEND EXTEND OR TERMINATE ANY PROCLAMATION. IT ALSO OUTLINES THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE KEPT UPDATED AGAIN IT DEFINES THAT THE GOVERNING BODY SHALL KEEP THE TOWN COUNCIL FULLY ADVISED AS TO THE STATUS OF THE LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY AND IT ALSO OUTLINES THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE TOWN MANAGER TO RESPOND TO THE EMERGENCY IN SECTION 21.4.
I DIDN'T PUT ALL THAT IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S A PRETTY LONG SECTION AND THEN IT MAKES SOME GRAMMATICAL AND TERMINOLOGY EDITS BECAUSE WE ARE CHANGING THE TERMINOLOGY TO A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY. IT GOES THROUGH THE REST OF THE CODE OF THAT SECTION AND CHANGES A EMERGENCY TO A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY TO MATCH THE TERMINOLOGY THROUGHOUT AS WELL AS THE PERMITTING AND RECOVERING SECTION OF THE REST OF THE CHAPTER.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY IN A LOCAL SO A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY LIKE A YOU KNOW LIKE A HOSTAGE SITUATION, YOU KNOW SOMETHING SO A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE DEFINITION IT CATCHES ALL OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT'S
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ANYTHING THAT CREATES A GREAT PUBLIC CRISIS NATURAL DISASTERS CYBER ATTACK, RIOTING, CIVIL DISTURBANCE CATASTROPHE OR MAY OCCUR OR CAUSE WIDESPREAD OR SEVERE DAMAGE OR LOSS OF LIFE.IT GOES UNDERNEATH THE POLICE PROTECTION OF THE POLICE OF THAT OF THE TOWN TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS FROM DAMAGE OR PROPERTY LOSS INJURY CITIZENS LIFE HEALTH, WELLNESS, THE REASON IT'S CALLED A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY IS BEFORE WHEN WE DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION BECAUSE IN STATE LAW THE GOVERNOR HAS THE ABILITY TO DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND THEN THERE WAS SOME SOME QUESTIONS WHEN WE LOOKED INTO IT ON WHETHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN ACTUALLY CLEAR A STATE OF EMERGENCY OR IF IT CONFLICTS WITH STATE LAW. SO THAT'S WHERE THE LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY WE CAN ADDRESS IS WHAT WE CAN DO BUT IT ALSO MEETS THE DEFINITION FEMA SO THAT IF WE DECLARE A LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY IT STARTS OUR CLOCK ON BEING ABLE TO GET THE FEMA FUNDS REIMBURSED THE TOWN SO THAT WAS WHAT LEGAL RECOMMENDED. IT'S WHAT I THINK WE TOOK THE TERM FROM MYRTLE BEACH AS THAT'S WHAT THEY PUT IN PLACE SO THAT THAT WAS WHERE THE TERMINOLOGY CAME FROM SO SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WE'RE AT FIRST READING SECOND READING WOULD BE PROPOSED FOR NEXT MONTH IF IT PASSES FIRST READING TONIGHT AND THEN IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT THEREAFTER AND I WOULD HOPE AND PRAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO USE IT THIS HURRICANE SEASON AS WELL. SO WE GOT 100 OUT THERE RIGHT NOW BUT IF WE HAVE TO WE WOULD HAVE A NEW POLICY IN PLACE BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 10TH OR SEPTEMBER 9TH AFTER COUNCIL APPROVED DISCUSSION THE COUNCIL WAS TOLD RIGID NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
MR. WOOD SIR. MR. HAMILTON NO SIR. ERM WHAT ARE THEY GOING BACK TO THE SPECIFIC CHANGES BETWEEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN WRITTEN AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. WHAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. THE BOTTOM LINE REALLY GETS TO WHAT I OUTLINED IN THE CODE THAT I PULLED OUT DEFINING WHAT THE LOCAL CIVIL EMERGENCY IS BECAUSE IT'S MORE DETAILED THAN IT WAS AND THAT WAS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP IS MAKING SURE THAT THE DECLARATION HAS SOME GUIDELINES AROUND IT TO MAKE.
IT'S NOT JUST BEING USED RANDOMLY THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME REASONING BEHIND IT AND IT HAS TO SHOW SEVERE INJURY LOSS OF LIFE. THE OTHER BIGGEST CHANGE IS HOW DECLARED PREVIOUSLY IT WAS OUTLINED THAT THE MAYOR COULD DECLARE AND THEN WOULD JUST NOTIFY COUNCIL AND MOVE FORWARD AND SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THIS REQUIRES IT TO BE DONE BY COUNCIL AT ALL IF POSSIBLE AND THEN IT WOULD MAKE IT ALL BACK WITHIN 48 HOURS IF IT'S WITHIN 48 HOURS IF WE CAN'T CONVINCE Y'ALL TO VOTE ON IT BUT IT REALLY LEGALIZES IS A TEXT OR EMAIL OR WHATEVER FROM YOUR RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO AS THAT THAT PRIOR OR CURRENTLY WRITTEN THE MAYOR COULD DO IT AND NOT RIGHT CORRECT AND RIGHT. AND THAT WAS I WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS RAISED WITH THE MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP AND AGAIN MYRTLE BEACH IS A MAYOR COUNCIL FORM OF GOVERNMENT THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THEY DO IT. HILTON HEAD FOR EXAMPLE THEY THEY ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THEY ALLOW IF I REMEMBER THE MAYOR TO DECLARE THE COUNCIL HAS TO COME BACK TOGETHER WITHIN 24 OR 48 HOURS TO ADOPT SUPPORT. THIS WOULD BE MORE LIKE MYRTLE BEACH IT REQUIRES TO TRY TO PULL ALL OF COUNCIL TOGETHER TO VOTE CAN STILL BRING YOU BACK TOGETHER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE BIG CHANGES.
ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL IF NOT SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER TWO AND CHAPTER 21 OF THE TOWN CODE AS RELATED TO THE DECLARATION OF THE LOCAL EMERGENCY AND OTHER MATTERS RELATED TO THE SECOND OKAY AND THE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR SAY I AM UNANIMOUS .
THANK YOU. UP NEXT WE HAVE A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A THREE PARTY AGREEMENT BETWEEN BUCKWALTER ASSOCIATION COUNTY AND TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO CONSTRUCT CONNECTION ROAD BETWEEN BUCKWALTER PLACE AND WASHINGTON SQUARE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS ONE ARE WE? YES, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
WE RECEIVED AN UPDATE THAT THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT MAY BE SUBSTANTIAL IN NATURE THAT THE OTHER ATTORNEYS FROM THE PARTIES HAVE REQUESTED AND WE JUST HAVE NOT HAD TIME TO THOSE CHANGES OR TO INCORPORATE THOSE. SO WHAT I CAN DO IS GIVE A
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BRIEF UPDATE SO YOU KNOW WHAT'S COMING FORWARD OR HOWEVER WE MIGHT ANYWAY, RIGHT? ME WE HAVE TO HEAR AGAIN. LET'S HEAR IT AGAIN. YES.SO I MEAN I KNOW WHAT IT IS IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A VOTE WITH YOU.
OKAY. SO WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS.
I MAKE THAT MOTION HERE. SO I GUESS THAT I'M IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT.
SO THIS HAS BEEN TABLED. MARCIA, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
[XI. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THIS CONCERN AGENDA? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION.ALL IN SAY I I AS UNANIMOUS WERE WE HAVE. OKAY.
[XII. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
IS THERE MOTION TO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR PERSONNEL MATTERS TOWN COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS OF BOARDS COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS.FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 30 DASH FOUR, DASH 71 AND DISCUSSION OF LAND PURCHASE AGREEMENTS LOCATED IN THE BUCKWALTER TRACT PURSUANT SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT 30 DASHBOARD 78 TO MAKE THAT SECOND CIRCUIT ALL IN FAVOR OR WE ARE EXECUTIVE SE WE ARE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION NO VOTES WERE TAKEN NO
[XIII. ACTION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION]
DECISIONS WERE MADE. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PIECES OF BUSINESS HERE SO SOMEBODY HAS A MOTION. BOARDS, COMMITTEES. I HAVE A MOTION.I MOVE TO APPOINT ASHLEY FEASTER JERRY REEVES WHO SAM ABU COTTER AND CARRIE MURPHY TO THE SEATS OF DIRECTOR TO THE DON RYAN CENTER OF INNOVATION BOARD DIRECTORS WITH TERMS EXPIRING JUNE 30TH OF 2028. ANY DISCUSSION THERE A CIRCUIT ALL IN FAVOR OF UNANIMOUS? WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION. MOVE TO ADJOURN. WELL, NO, WAIT A MINUTE SHE DID SHE LOST EVERYBODY. YES. OKAY.
SORRY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT ONE IS REGARDING ITEM TWO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA AND I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WITH INLAND BLUFFTON LLC FOR THE 55.18 ACRE PARCEL.
MORE LESS SHOWN ON THE PLAT RECORDED IN THE BEAUFORT COUNTY REGISTER DEEDS BOOK 140 PAGE 11 NOTED AS PARCEL FIVE C FOR THE PURCHASE OF $3,860,000. THERE ARE SIX VACANT U.S. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I I IF I NEED IS UNANIMOUS. BUT IF I KNEW THEN WE'LL SPEND THE MOST MONEY I WILL KEEP THE JOURNEY. THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I MADE THAT MOTION
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