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AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, WE DO.
UM, BUT WE NEED TO DO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
YEAH, I DO HAVE, I HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I HAVE TO CALL FOR.
SO, UM, WE CAN START, IT'S FOUR O'CLOCK.
WE'RE GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
UH, THIS IS A TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE FOR, LET'S SEE, WHAT IS IT? AUGUST 11TH, 2025.
UH, FOR STAFF WE HAVE MARK SHOHAN, AND, UM, AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S WITH YOU, MARK, IS HE JUST HERE FOR TECH SUPPORT, LIKE AV? OH, YEAH.
UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WE HAVE MYSELF, MR. NAY, AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR MS. FRAZIER TO JOIN.
UH, AND WE ALSO ARE JOINED BY OUR CHAIRMAN, COLONEL GEIER.
SO, WITH THAT, WE'LL CALL THIS TO ORDER.
AND IF YOU GUYS WOULD JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WITH WHICH SHE STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
SO WE DO NEED APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
AND AS NOTED, THE DATE ON THE COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES WAS, UH, INCORRECT.
IT'S SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, NOT 2025, BUT THAT'S JUST A MINOR TYPO.
OTHER THAN THAT, UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? SO MOVED.
I SEE MR. SMITH HAS JOINED US, BUT I DO NOT SEE MS. FRAZIER SWELL.
UH, ROBIN, IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, LET ME SEE IF HE SENT ME HIS TELEPHONE NUMBER.
UH, HELLO, UH, DAVID, THIS I'M CALLING YOU FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME AND YOU WILL BEGIN.
WE'RE GETTING THE TIMER SET, SO IF IT GIVES US A SECOND, WE CAN START.
UM, CAN YOU ALL HEAR HIM ONLINE? WE'RE GOOD.
UH, GO AHEAD AND START, MR. GO.
UH, WANTED TO SPEAK REGARDING, UM, POLICY, TECHNOLOGY POLICY.
UM, WHEN PARENTS CAN, WE TRY TO GET A POLICY THAT WHEN PARENTS REQUEST A WEBSITE BLOCK OR THEY ASK TO OPT OUT THEIR CHILD FROM AN APPLICATION AND CLASS LINK THAT IS NOT NORMALLY USED ON A SCHOOL DEVICE.
CAN YOU GRANT THAT REQUEST PLEASE? UM, UH, WE TOLD IT CAN'T BE DONE AND I'M JUST NOT, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY IT CAN'T BE DONE.
AND SECONDLY, HE SAYS, I'D LIKE YOU TO ADOPT A TECHNOLOGY POLICY THAT PROTECTS EMAILS FROM FOER REQUESTS WHEN THE EMAIL BETWEEN A PARENT AND ANY DISTRICT EMPLOYEE OR BOARD MEMBER REGARDING A CHILD THAT'S THE STUDENT OF THAT PARENT.
THAT WAS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WHAT? UM, THANK YOU, MR. COOK.
UH, WHAT FORM, IT KIND OF BROKE UP THERE.
WHAT FORM WAS IT THAT HE WANTED ON THE WEBSITE? UM, KIND OF PARENT REQUESTS.
UM, IN OPTING OUT, HE WANTED THE PARENTS TO BE ABLE TO INDIVIDUALLY BLOCK WEBSITES FOR INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS.
ALSO BLOCK APPLICATIONS OFF OF CLASS LINK, WHICH IS OUR, UH, SINGLE SIGN ON PRODUCT FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF AND STUDENTS.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT FOR A FUTURE MEETING.
WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING IN WENDY CARTILAGE AS FAR AS FOIA GOES.
SO FIRST AGENDA ITEM, UH, FOR THE MEETING IS, UH, WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.
I DON'T SEE MS. FRAZIER, RIGHT? NOT YET.
SO APPARENTLY THIS COMMITTEE IS TURNING INTO AN ANNUAL MEETING, WHICH, YOU KNOW,
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GO AHEAD AND LET'S START WITH, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE DISCUSSION OF STUDENT HARDWARE, COMPUTERS.WE JUST GOT EVERYTHING CHECKED BACK IN AND REDISTRIBUTED.
SO DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT, MR. SHOHAN? UH, YES.
WE'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CHECKED IN AND CHECKED OUT.
UM, IT GENERALLY TAKES US ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 SCHOOL DAYS TO GET ALL THAT COMPLETED.
WE GENERALLY DO ABOUT 1250 TO 60% OF OUR DEVICE ROLLOUT BEFORE SCHOOL EVER STARTS.
AND THEN THAT LAST, UH, 30 TO 40% IS THE ONE THAT TAKES US THE LONGEST, UH, ONCE WE GET IN SCHOOL.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE DAMAGES FROM, UH, LAST SCHOOL YEAR.
UM, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH BROKE DOWN BETWEEN LAPTOPS, IPADS, AND THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT, UH, REASONS THEY WERE BROKE.
EVERYTHING FROM, UH, CRACK SCREENS TO, UH, CONFIGURATIONS TO DAMAGED POWER PORTS, TO LOST CHARGERS.
UM, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF,
UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I DID WANNA PRESENT THIS IS BECAUSE THE PLAN IS TO HAVE A MONTHLY REPORT ON STUDENT AND STAFF DAMAGES GOING FORWARD.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY, UH, ONCE WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE CAN LOOK AT SOME FORMATS.
UM, I'M KIND OF ROUGHLY BASING THIS ON OUR OPERATIONS REPORT.
UM, IT'S GONNA LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OUR DATA'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT, UH, JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CONSENSUS ON SOME OF THE GRAPH TYPES AND, UH, SOME OF THE TIES OF IT.
AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU PULLING THIS OUT OF? WHAT SYSTEM ARE IS THIS DASHBOARD COMING OUT OF? THIS IS CALLED ONE TO ONE.
IT'S OUR INVENTORY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
LAST YEAR WE, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE SWITCHED FROM DESTINY, WHICH IS A LIBRARY RESOURCE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO ONE TO ONE.
THE MAIN REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE DESTINY WAS NOT REALLY A IT ASSET APPLICATION.
UM, AND THIS IS MORE, UH, MORE SUITED FOR THAT GOAL.
UM, WE GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER REPORTING.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO, TO REVIEW.
UM, IT ALSO MAKES IT EASIER FOR OUR PARENTS BECAUSE ONE-TO-ONE CONNECTS BACK, UM, WITH, UM, OSP, WHICH IS OUR ONLINE SCHOOL PAYMENTS.
SO THAT MAKES IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR PARENTS AND, UH, FOR THAT DATA TO BE PUSHED OUT WHERE PARENTS CAN SEE IT.
UM, IS THIS DATA GONNA BE PART OF OUR, A REGULAR BOARD REPORT? WILL IT BE PUBLISHED ANYWHERE? UM, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE MONTHLY REPORT? UH, THE, THE PLAN FOR THE MONTHLY REPORT IS TO, UH, REPORT TO Y'ALL MONTHLY AT OUR COMMITTEE.
AND THEN I GUESS WE WOULD PREP THE, UH, FULL BOARD WITH IT, UM, AT THE BEGINNING.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN OPERATIONS COMMITTEE DOES THEIR REPORT IS AT THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING.
IT'S, IT'S THE MEETING FOLLOWING THERE.
SO IT'D BE THE SECOND MEETING.
SO WE WOULD BE REPORTING THAT DURING THE SECOND, UH, SESSION OF, UM, OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS FOR THE FULL BOARD.
MR. NADE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, IS THERE ANY READOUT OF ANY THE, UH, FINES OR FEES THAT ARE WE, WE ARE RECOVERING, UM, FROM LOST CHARGERS, DESTROYED COMPUTERS THAT ARE BEYOND, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE, THE MAXIMUM LEVEL OF WHAT THE, THE DISTRICT ABSORBS.
UM, ALL THAT WOULD BE THROUGH FINANCE.
AND WE CAN PULL THOSE REPORTS FROM THE FINANCE SIDE.
WE WOULD JUST NEED TO GET THEIR HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T DEAL WITH MONEY
MR. SMITH? COLONEL, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY, MR. NATE, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? NO, I WAS JUST SAYING, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO WE KNOW THAT, UH, WE COULD BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF A KID DESTROYS THEIR COMPUTER, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THEN ARE WE RECOVERING THE FUNDS TO REPLACE IT AND THAT KINDA STUFF, AS OPPOSED TO JUST ABSORBING EVERYTHING, UH, BY THE DISTRICT.
UH, MR. SMITH, OR, UH, COLONEL GUYER, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, MA'AM.
UM, I HAVE ONE OTHER COUPLE QUESTIONS JUST REAL QUICK.
AS YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT UP, BECAUSE ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS I KNOW WE PAY EXTRA FOR MORE RUGGED COMPUTERS.
AND ARE THEY STILL DELLS? IS THAT WHAT I RECALL CORRECTLY? HP.
UM, AND WE DO PAY FOR THE SCHOOL VERSION, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE MORE RUGGED.
UM, THE BASE COST FOR OUR DEVICES IS AROUND $500 BEFORE YOU ADD THE, UM, THE ONE TIME PER YEAR BREAKAGE.
AND THE ABSOLUTE SOFTWARE THAT WE USE TO TRACK THE DEVICE THAT
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ADDS THAT EXTRA 200 AND SOMETHING DOLLARS TO THE COST OF THE DEVICE.SO THE ONE TIME BREAKAGE AND THEN TRACKING SOFTWARE IS $200 PER DEVICE.
UM, WELL FOR BOTH OF THOSE TOGETHER IS ABOUT $260.
THE TRACKING SOFTWARE, WHICH IS GOOD FOR FOUR YEARS, CALLED ABSOLUTE SOFTWARE, UM, IT'S INSTALLED ACTUALLY ON THE MOTHERBOARD.
SO IF SOMEBODY STEALS ONE OF OUR DEVICES IMAGES IT AND TRIES TO USE IT IN ATLANTA, ANOTHER COUNTRY, UM, WE PARTNER WITH ABSOLUTE SOFTWARE WHO CAN TRACK THAT DEVICE FOR US.
AND ONCE WE BRAND IT, UM, STOLEN, THEY'RE, UH, THEY, THEY'RE IN CHARGE FOR RECOVERY OF THAT DEVICE.
WE DON'T GO OUT AND LOOK FOR IT.
AND THEY DO A LOT OF THE MIDDLEMAN WORK.
HOW OFTEN DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT? HOW OFTEN DO WE USE THEM? UM, ANYTIME THERE'S A DEVICE THAT'S CONSIDERED STOLEN, MOST OF THE DEVICES THAT WE HAVE ARE CONSIDERED MISSING OR STOLEN.
UM, BECAUSE WE ASK FOR PARENTS, UH, AND IT IS IN OUR POLICY THAT WITHIN 24 HOURS THAT THEY'RE REALIZING THAT THEIR DEVICE OR THEIR KID'S DEVICE HAS BEEN STOLEN, THAT THEY NEED TO DO A POLICE REPORT AND TO NOTIFY SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION.
UM, MOST OF THE TIME THESE ARE JUST MISSING.
AND WHAT WE DO IS WE END UP FINDING THAT THE KID LEFT IT ON THE BUS AND USUALLY IT'S THREE OR FOUR DAYS LATER AND THAT DEVICE GETS BACK TO THE CHILD.
AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, THAT WE WERE PAYING THAT ONE TIME USAGE THING WAS ACTUALLY AN ADDED COST.
'CAUSE THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WE'RE ALL PAYING FOR ONE, EVERYONE'S PAYING FOR THEIR FIRST TIME SORT OF DEVICE BREAK.
IT DRIVES A LITTLE BIT OF AN INSURANCE POLICY.
IS THAT THROUGH HP OR IS THAT THROUGH SOMETHING ELSE? THAT IS THROUGH HP.
UM, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME, BUT IT'S THEIR ADVANCED, UH, PROTECTION PLAN.
SO THEY ALLOW ONE BREAKAGE PER DEVICE PER SCHOOL YEAR.
AND THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A FULL SCREEN BREAKAGE TO A KID PICKING THE KEYS OFF THEIR LAPTOP, OTHER KEYBOARD AND US HAVING TO REPLACE.
AND THIS WAS SORT OF A PERSONAL THING YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT, AND UM, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE CHART THAT YOU HAVE THAT'S COLOR CODED.
I CAN'T SEE WHICH HIGH SCHOOL OR SCHOOL IS LINED UP WITH WHICH CHART.
I DIDN'T REALLY SCALE IT TO BE VERY, UH, INFORMATIVE FOR THIS MEETING.
BUT JUST TO GIVE Y'ALL SOME IDEAS OF THE REASON I'M ASKING.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S, IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT IT'S ALSO SORT OF SOMETHING I THINK THE DISTRICT SHOULD LOOK AT.
SO THERE'S ONE THAT'S THE, THE ONE THAT WE AND I TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT THERE SEEMED TO BE AN UNUSUALLY HIGH NUMBER OF DAMAGED CHARGERS.
RIGHT? THIS WAS A NEW MODEL WE WENT TO IN THE REFRESH FOR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.
AND AT LEAST AT THE HI NET HIGH SCHOOL, I HAD HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT, UM, A BUNCH OF KIDS.
AND I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS 30% OF THE CHARGERS THAT WERE TURNED IN.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE GENTLEMAN TOLD ME AT THE SCHOOL, WHICH SEEMED UNUSUALLY HIGH.
SO IS THAT THE, THE BIG PINK ONE UP THERE IS THAT HILTON HEAD HIGH? THAT'S, UM, GOT A VERY LARGE PINK SECTION.
'CAUSE YOU SEE THERE'S A WIDE DEGREE OF, UH, VARIABILITY IN THAT ONE.
IT'S LIKE THE P PINK ONE, ROBIN, IT'S UP.
I MEAN MOVE IT OVER 'CAUSE IT'S AT THE END OF THE THING.
THAT ONE THERE SEE, WE SEE IT THERE.
IS THAT HILTON HEAD HIGH OR IS THERE, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, AND THE REASON I ASK THIS IS BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S VERY, THAT'S WHAT THAT PINKISH WOULD BE.
THE DIFFERENT, THE COLOR FOR THE LAPTOP POWER ADAPTER OR CORE.
SO THE ONE THAT'S ABOUT FOUR TIMES THE AVERAGE IS THAT HILTON HAD HIGHS BAR GRAFT.
SO THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT IF WE GET GOOD DATA, AND I THINK THIS IS NICE, SOMETHING CLEARLY IS AIS THERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A NEW CHARGER SET.
NOW, IT COULD BE THAT WHEN LOOKING AT THIS DATA, I'M LIKE, SO DO WE HAVE A VENDOR PROBLEM WITH THE CHARGER? DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FAIRLY CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
RIGHT? BUT YOU SEE THAT OUTLIER.
WAS THAT A TRA STAFF TRAINING ISSUE? MARK DO, DID, UM, 149 IS WHAT WE GOT FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, UM, UM, I'M SORRY.
UM, UH, THE POWER POWER ADAPTER OR CORD AT, UH, HILTON HEAD HIGH WAS 149.
UM, WHICH COMPARES TO, AT A, AT A ROUGHLY,
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UH, 1200 AND I THINK 80 KIDS WITH, UH, OUR STUDENT COUNT FOR HILTON HEAD LAST YEAR.I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME SO THAT I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THE COMPARISONS.
ROBIN, YOU CAN QUIT MOVING BACK 'CAUSE IT'S MAKING ME DIZZY,
UM, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN I LOOK AT THIS DATA, YOU CAN SEE SOME CLEAR OUTLIERS AND I THINK IT'S WORTH IT TO KIND OF CHECK IN AND SAY IF WHATEVER THAT BAR IS, UM, IF IT'S HILTON HEAD OR IF IT'S ANOTHER SCHOOL OR WHATEVER, THAT PURPLE PEACE BAR IS QUITE A BIT OUT OF CARE OUTTA LINE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAD HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS AS WELL.
UM, AND I SEE SOME BLUE BARS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE QUITE A BIT BIGGER.
I THINK THEN WE NEED TO DIG IN AND SEE IF THAT IS A, UH, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF.
'CAUSE THIS WAS A FIRST YEAR FOR THAT REFRESH.
AND IF IT'S AN OUTLIER FOR A SCHOOL, 'CAUSE IT, I THINK HE TOLD ME HE THOUGHT ABOUT 30% OF THE LAPTOPS WERE COMING IN BROKEN, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I CALCULATED IN MY HEAD, THAT'D BE $20,000 WORTH OF DAMAGE, RIGHT.
THAT THEY HAD TO COLLECT FROM STUDENTS.
SO I JUST WANNA SAY, AS WE USE THIS GRAPH, HOWEVER WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE CHARGERS, BUT AS WE USE THIS GRAPH, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THESE OUTLIERS IN THE DATA AND FIGURING OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE THAT REALLY JUMPS OUT AT ME THAT DRAMATICALLY.
I MEAN, CLEARLY THE PURPLE, WHICH IS LAPTOP CRACKED SCREEN, YOU EXPECT IT TO BE BIGGER IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS OR YOU GOT, YOU'VE GOT, GOT A, IT'S, THIS IS NOT A PERCENTAGE GRAPH.
SO MAY RIVER IS GONNA BE BIGGER THAN, YOU KNOW, UM, BATTERY CREEK, OBVIOUSLY IT APPEARS BY THE DATA THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 13 TO 14% CHARGER DAMAGE AT HILTON HEAD HIGH.
AND IT WAS ONE OF OUR HIGHER HIGH SCHOOLS.
AND LIKE I SAID, I JUST HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING.
BUT I DO THINK WHEN YOU PRESENT THIS DATA VISUALLY, IT'D BE GOOD TO LOOK AT IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BREAK IT DOWN BY ALL OF THESE SUBCATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE HERE, RIGHT.
FROM IPAD CHARGING ISSUE TO, UH, DATA PORTS, ET CETERA.
WE SHOULD LOOK AT PERCENTAGES AND COMPARE TO SEE IF WE'RE IDENTIFYING PROBLEMS AS WE DO A REFRESH CYCLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING ON THAT PARTICULAR DEVICE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE A FAILURE, HIGH FAILURE RATE, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE SCHOOL SPECIFIC.
AND USUALLY IF THERE'S A BIG DISCREPANCY IN THE SCHOOL, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE WAS LIKE A STAFF KIND OF ISSUE WHEN THEY'RE PULLING, WHEN THEY'RE TAKING IT IN THAT THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF VARIABILITY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IT'S DETERMINED TO BE BROKEN OR NOT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
THESE COLOR CO I LIKE THE COLOR CODING, BUT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE PERCENTAGES BY SUBCATEGORY BROKEN DOWN BY SCHOOL SO WE CAN FIND AREAS THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CHARTS AND GRAPHS, GRAPHS, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? UH, YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION.
YOU ASKED, UH, YOU ASKED MR. JOHAN ABOUT HOW MANY TI HOW HOW REGULARLY ARE WE TRACKING COMPUTERS? AND I DON'T THINK THAT QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.
I I HEARD, I HEARD REASONING
BUT FOR, FOR CLARITY, THE, THE QUESTION REMAINS OF HOW REGULAR ARE WE ACTUALLY TRACKING THE, UH, UH, UH, UH, STOLEN OR LOST DEVICES? UM, WE DO TRACK THEM.
UM, IAN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MARKED LOST IN OUR SYSTEM, UH, MOST OF THE TIME WE FIND THOSE
THAT'S ABOUT OUR AVERAGE TIME THAT A STUDENT'S DEVICE IS LOST BEFORE IT GOES INTO FULL STEAL CATEGORY.
UM, AND IF YOU'D LIKE, I COULD BREAK THOSE INTO TWO SEPARATE CATEGORIES AND IT MIGHT MAKE THE DATA A LITTLE BIT CLEARER, UH, SEPARATE BETWEEN LOST AND STOLEN.
WELL, QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK I'M LOOKING FOR, I'M LOOKING FOR MORE OF A NUMBER AS IN SIX, UH, SIX TIMES FROM A VARIOUS SCHOOL, UH, ALTOGETHER MAYBE THREE TIMES A YEAR.
I'M LOOKING FOR, I'M LOOKING FOR NUMBERS.
THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
NOT, NOT, NOT ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES.
I THINK YOU, MR. SMITH, AND I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION.
I DON'T WANNA PARAPHRASE YOU MR. SMITH.
MY QUESTION IS, IF WE'RE PAYING, I HOW MUCH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH ABSOLUTE IS VERSUS THE HP ADVANCED SECURITY, RIGHT? BUT IF WE'VE USED, IF WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO USE ABSOLUTE MANY TIMES MAKING IT WORTH A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT.
BECAUSE WHAT I, WHAT I WILL SAY, AND I KNOW MR. SMITH AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THIS IS NOT AN OPTIONAL CHARGE, RIGHT? YOU EVERY STUDENT HAS TO HAVE A DEVICE AND 600 AND SOME DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, IS A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.
ALL THESE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, $50 FOR A CHARGER, I THINK IT WAS LIKE $600 FOR A SCREEN REPAIR, IF I RECALL CORRECT.
OR THERE WAS SOME KIND OF HEAVY NUMBER.
BUT THESE ARE BIG EXPENSES FOR FAMILY.
AND WE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH SOME MIDDLE SCHOOLERS.
SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW OFTEN ARE WE NEEDING TO USE THIS ABSOLUTE SOFTWARE? UM, WE DEFINITELY USE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES A MONTH AT LEAST.
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FOR ANYTHING, ANYTIME SOMEBODY REPORTS A DEVICE IS LOST, UM, WE CAN GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT ABSOLUTE AND IT WILL TELL YOU THE LAST NODE OR GEOLOCATION THAT IT CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET.SO AS LONG AS THAT DEVICE, ONCE IT LEAVES OUR CAMPUS, IT WILL SHOW US WHERE IT WAS AT ON OUR CAMPUS.
AND ONCE IT LEAVES OUR CAMPUS, ONCE IT GEOLOCATES IT TO THE INTERNET, IT WILL TELL US WHERE IT'S AT.
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES KIDS WILL SAY IT'S LOST AND THEN WE GEOLOCATE IT BACK TO THE CHILD'S ADDRESS.
SO THEN WE CAN TELL THE PARENTS, HEY, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THAT DEVICE REPORTED IN AT SEVEN 30 THIS MORNING AT THIS RESIDENCE.
UM, COULD YOU PLEASE LOOK AT YOUR HOUSE? OKAY.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. SMITH? YOU CAN GET MORE SPECIFIC NUMBERS FROM ABSOLUTE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THOSE, ANY SPECIFIC NUMBERS TODAY.
AND FOR THE FULL SCREEN REPLACEMENT, UM, IT'S 2 89.
OKAY? AND THAT IS FOR THE SCREEN, THE LCD SCREEN AND THE DIGITIZER BEHIND IT.
UM, THE SCREEN'S ABOUT HUNDRED $70 AND THEN THE DIGITIZER IS LIKE 110.
BUT NOW THOSE ARE COMBINED BECAUSE OF THE WISDOM OF HP.
AND THAT'S ONE PRODUCT WE BUY.
SO EVERY TIME A CRACK SCREEN, WE HAVE TO BUY BOTH OF THEM.
I WOULD SAY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT REALLY DOES NOT SUFFICE IN MY ANSWER WHEN WE'RE PAYING THIS KIND OF MONEY FOR THIS, FOR THIS, UH, TYPE OF, UH, EQUIPMENT.
UH, UH, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I'M PAYING FOR.
AND THAT DOES NOT REALLY, UH, SUFFICE.
I LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE USING IT.
AND, UH, VERSUS, UH, GUESSING I'LL ALREADY BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WE ARE USING REGULARLY FOR, IN, IN, IN TERMS, IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF NUMBERS, UH, USED, I I THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT OF IT.
AND, AND IN TERMS OF, FOR INSTANCE, I HAVE A, UH, I, I LOSE MY, UH, LAPTOP.
I CAN, I CAN TRACK IT, I, I OR LAPTOP.
I CAN TRACK IT ON MY PHONE OR, OR, OR YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE FIND YOUR IPHONE.
IF YOU HAVE, I, IF YOU HAVE AIR EARBUDS, YOU CAN TRACK IT.
AND SO EVERY TIME YOU TRACK IT, THEN I'M SURE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT THAT'S A MARK.
SO YOU CAN KNOW, HEY, WE HAD TO USE IT THIS AMOUNT OF TIMES, SO THEREFORE THAT TELLS ME RIVER IT'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED OR IS, IS NEEDS VERSUS ONE.
I SEE THAT WE NEED NUMBERS TO UNDERSTAND, TO SEE NEEDS VERSUS ONE IN THAT, IN, IN THIS, IN THIS SITUATION.
SO I, THAT'S, IF I'M LOOKING FOR STRAIGHT NUMBERS AND IT HAS TO BE A CONVERSATION, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR RIVER TO SEE, TO SEE ON, ON THE TOTEM POLE.
IS IT IS, IS IT A BILL THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OR IS IT ABILITY TO GET RID OF? THANK YOU.
SO MAYBE AT ANOTHER MEETING WE CAN GET SOME NUMBERS DIRECTLY OUT OF ABSOLUTE SOFTWARE, MR. JOHAN.
UM, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE THAT ACTUALLY IS KIND OF UNRELATED TO THIS, YOU BROUGHT UP SOMETHING AND I'M CURIOUS, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, MY SON THAT JUST GRADUATED WAS MY THIRD KID, SO YOU GET A LITTLE LAX, RIGHT? SO THIS COULD BE A ME PROBLEM, BUT YOU SAID THAT IS AND THAT PARENTS KNOW THAT IF THEIR LAPTOP HAS BEEN MISSING FOR 24 HOURS TO FILE A POLICE REPORT.
MR. NAY, DID YOU KNOW THAT I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.
SORRY,
IS THAT IN THE TECHNOLOGY A UP OR IS THAT ON THE WEBSITE? 'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA SEGUE INTO MY NEXT, MY NEXT QUESTION,
IT'S IN THE A UP THAT'S SIGNED YEARLY BY PARENTS INSTITUTES.
SO I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, SO WE'VE KIND OF CONCLUDED THE STUFF, UM, THAT WE HAD JUST TO CHECK OFF ON THIS AGENDA.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T MET SINCE SEPTEMBER.
UM, AND I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD USE THE REST OF THIS MEETING TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME ISSUES THAT I THINK TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE THROUGH THE BOARD COULD HOPEFULLY, UM, KIND OF GUIDE SOME OF THE, UH, THE FULL BOARD ON LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE TECHNOLOGY ISSUES BECAUSE THEY ARE BECOMING INCREDIBLY MORE IMPORTANT DAY BY DAY.
I MEAN, THE STUFF THAT I'M HEARING ABOUT OUT IN THE WORLD ABOUT HOW TECHNOLOGY IS BEING USED AND BEING ALTERED, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, I THINK TECHNOLOGY IS, IS A MASSIVELY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE, UM, OF THE DISTRICT.
AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK IT GETS THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES.
AND, UM, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AT A FUTURE BOARD MEETING, WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONVERSATION AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO STRUCTURE THIS.
'CAUSE THESE ARE ALL KIND OF BROAD AND WIDE TOPICS.
BUT ONE THING IS WE DO NOT HAVE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. SHOHAN, BUT YOU ARE STILL UNDER THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND YOUR TITLE IS? TECHNOLOGY SERVICES OFFICER.
I DID RESEARCH INTO THE TOP 20 COMPARABLY SIZED DISTRICT.
I THINK BEAUFORT, IF I RECALL, IS LIKE NUMBER 10 BIGGEST DISTRICT.
SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE GOT GREENVILLE, THEY'VE
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GOT, UM, CHARLESTON AND HORRY COUNTY ARE BIGGER, BUT A LOT OF DISTRICTS ARE IN OUR RANGE AS WELL.AND OF THOSE, THEY ALL HAVE EITHER A CISO, A CHIEF INFORMATION SECURITY OFFICER, OR A CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER, OR A DIRECTOR OF TECHNOLOGY.
AND WITH A TECHNOLOGY SERVICES OFFER, I I UNDERNEATH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, I DON'T THINK MR. SHOHAN HAS, UM, THE CAPACITY AND THE BANDWIDTH HE NEEDS TO BE STRATEGIC, UH, AS FAR AS LIKE SETTING SOME TECHNOLOGY POLICY.
AND I THINK THE DISTRICT REALLY NEEDS, UM, TO INVEST SOMEWHAT IN TECHNOLOGY STRATEGY.
SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP JUST LIKE A GENERAL DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MR. JOHAN SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AS FAR AS, UM, WHAT YOU SEE THE ROLE OF THE TECHNOLOGY SERVICES OFFICER VERSUS A CISO, JUST IN A GENERAL SENSE.
AND WHAT, UH, CHANGING THAT ROLE OR EXPANDING THAT ROLE INTO HAVING SOMEONE.
I PERSONALLY, AS AN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PERSON, I'M MORE OF A DATA PERSON.
I LIKE CISO BECAUSE IT, IT TAKES IT OFF OF LIKE THE HARDWARE AND THE NETWORK, UH, FOCUS AND EXPANDS IT TO INCLUDE STR STRATEGY, SOFTWARE, ET CETERA.
SO CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT YOU SEE IN YOUR OPINION THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW YOUR ROLE IS DEFINED AND HOW A CISO AT SOMEWHERE LIKE HORRY COUNTY OR AIKEN OR LEXINGTON, RICHLAND FIVE WOULD FUNCTION? UM, THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IS, IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR US TO GET A TECHNICALLY CISO BECAUSE THEY'RE A SECURITY OPERATIONS.
UM, UH, AND WITH THAT ONE CERTIFICATION, HAVING THAT C-I-S-S-S-P CERTIFICATION, YOUR STARTING SALARY IS GONNA BE ABOUT 150 TO 175 A YEAR.
SO A LOT OF TIMES IT'S HARD FOR US TO GET A PERSON WITH THAT CERTIFICATION IN A PUBLIC FACILITY.
UM, IT IS HARDER WITH OUR SALARY SCALES.
UM, BUT, UM, AS, AS FOR THE TECHNOLOGY OFFICER DIRECTOR, UM, ALL THOSE ARE, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ALL OF THOSE ARE BASICALLY ON THE SAME SCALE UNTIL YOU MOVE UP THE CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER, WHICH KIND OF PUTS YOU, UH, UP MORE ON THE POLICY SIDE.
SO IN YOUR OPINION, THE CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER IS MORE POLICY FOCUSED.
'CAUSE MY MINDSET, YOU HAVE LIKE A CHIEF INFORMA IN HEALTHCARE, YOU HAVE A CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER, AND THEN YOU HAVE A CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER AND USUALLY CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER IS REALLY FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, NETWORK SECURITY, HARDWARE DEVICES, ENDPOINT, ALL THAT.
AND THE INFORMATION OFFICER IS MORE SOFTWARE DATA ANALYSIS INTEGRATIONS.
UM, THE ONE WAY WE GET AROUND THAT IS WE HAVE A NETWORK OPERATIONS DIRECTOR.
AND MY NETWORK OPERATIONS DIRECTOR IS MORE OF MY HARDWARE SERVER GUY
AND I DO MORE OF THE POLICY AND SOFTWARE AND COMPATIBILITY SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
KIND OF YOUR VOICE DRIFTED OFF THERE.
SO YOU'RE SORT OF MORE IN THE SOFTWARE, UM, AND THEN YOU KIND OF SHARE YOUR ROLE WITH THE NETWORK, UM, OPERATIONS DIRECTOR? YES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF THE BOARD TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON JUST A GENERAL TOPIC OF, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO SORT OF EXPAND, UH, THE CAPABILITIES OF DISTRICTS IN THE TECHNOLOGY AND GET MORE STRATEGIC, IT'S GONNA COST MONEY.
UM, I THINK MR. JOHAN, IN MY OPINION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HAS DONE A LOT OF THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE SAME ROLE IF YOU'RE SORT OF A TECHNOLOGY SERVICES OFFICER UNDER FINANCE.
UM, BUT IT COULD BE JUST SEMANTICS.
SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? COLONEL VIRUS? HANDS UP PLEASE.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS A RAPID MOVING TRAINING IN TECHNOLOGY AND USERS ARE FOCUSED ON THE DAY-TO-DAY REQUIREMENTS AND JUST TRYING TO KEEP WHAT THEY'VE GOT GOING.
AND THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO KEEP UP WITH, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE TECHNOLOGY FIELD.
PEOPLE THAT DO HAVE, THAT ARE GENERALLY FOCUSED ONLY ON THAT.
AND THEY ALSO, UH, GO OUT AND CONSULT AND COME IN AND TELL USERS, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE NEAR TERM.
THIS IS HOW WE THINK YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO, UH, HAVE STAFF FOR THIS FUNCTION.
MAYBE BE LESS AND MORE INTO ANOTHER FUNCTION.
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UH, SIZE AND SCOPE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON OUR OWN.AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE VENDORS OUT THERE THAT CAN COME IN ON A, EVERY, EVERY YEAR, EVERY COUPLE YEARS.
I'M NOT SURE HOW OFTEN FOR A FEE TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
WE THINK IT'S SIX MONTHS, THIS IS IN TWO YEARS, FOUR YEARS, AND SO ON.
SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AND THEN MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON SOMEBODY'S OR SOME CONSULTANTS, SOMEBODY WITH EXPERTISE IN THAT AREA OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND HOW WE NEED TO BE STRUCTURED TO COPE WITH THE FUTURE IN TECHNOLOGY.
SO THAT WOULD BE A THOUGHT TO SEE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY WE COULD STRUCTURE IT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, I, I'M SAYING IT.
THIS IS, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE A CONTINUOUS PROCESS.
THIS COULDN'T BE A ONE-TIME CONSULTING COME IN, WE'RE DONE.
BECAUSE IN TWO YEARS THE ENVIRONMENT'S CHANGED.
THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING, YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A CONSULTING FIRM AND YOU SAY, OKAY, YOU COME IN, YOU GIVE US, UH, AN EVALUATION OF WHERE WE ARE NOW.
GIVE US SOME OPTIONS OF WHERE WE THINK YOU, HE CONSULTANT THINKS YOU SHOULD BE NEAR TERM
AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO NEAR TERM, WE SAY, OKAY, YOU DID THIS, BUT WHAT'S NEXT AND WHAT'S NEXT? SO IT WOULD BE A SIRI, UH, A RELATIONSHIP WITH A CONSULTANT.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ A START OVER FROM SCRATCH WITH A CONSULTANT KNOWING ABOUT YOUR, UH, YOUR ORGANIZATION.
BUT I AM CERTAIN THAT THERE ARE VENDORS OUT THERE AND WE COULD, WE COULD GO OUT AND PUT IN A, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, UH, TO SEE WHAT WOULD, WOULD COME UP, DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING.
UH, WE COULD HAVE THEM COME IN AND, AND, UH, GIVE A PITCH ON WHAT THEIR SERVICES ARE AND WHAT THEIR COSTS ARE AND MAKE A DECISION FROM THERE.
I THINK THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, I THINK POINT HOW TO BE MORE PROACTIVE AND LESS REACTIVE AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO START LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD AT HOW ALL THIS STUFF IS GONNA WORK TOGETHER.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK MR. SHOHAN WOULD BE GREAT TO DO SOME STRATEGY.
WELL, IN OPINION WE NEED MORE STRATEGY ON THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE.
I MEAN IT, THE, THE INFORMATION'S USEFUL AND LOOKING AT CHARTS AND THE NUMBERS AND THE NUMBER OF TICKETS.
UM, BUT PERSONALLY I DON'T THINK THE BOARD HAS A REAL CLEAR GRASP ON, ON WHAT TECHNOLOGY IS DOING.
AND, UH, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY IN, IN, UH, IMPROVING TECHNOLOGY AND ADDING TO OUR TECHNOLOGY.
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU'VE GOT THE, YOU KNOW, GIANT, THE IMPACT THAT AI IS HAVING ON EDUCATION MORE THAN ANY, ALMOST MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
SO IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, BEING, IN MY OPINION, WE JUST NEED TO SORT OF FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE TECHNOLOGY A MORE PROMINENT PART OF WHAT THE DISTRICT IS WORKING ON.
SO IT MAY BE THAT A CONSULTANT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY, UM, TO SORT OF ATTACK TO, TO KIND OF ATTACK IT.
'CAUSE I FEEL AT A LOSS FOR SURE.
MR. NAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES.
UH, SO, UH, MR. GUYER, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING THAT, UH, MAYBE NOT HIRE SOMEBODY FULL TIME WITH THIS CAPABILITY, BUT JUST BRING SOMEBODY IN AS A CONSULTANT EVERY COUPLE, COUPLE YEARS, MAYBE EVERY TWO TO THREE YEARS.
UH, IS THAT, IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BASICALLY? RIGHT.
UM, I, I, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, THAT, UH, PARTICULAR METHOD OR THAT, UH, I, I GUESS SCHEMA MANEUVER.
UM, BUT, UH, IF WE'RE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA PURSUE, I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT, BRING THEM IN IMMEDIATELY THE FIRST TIME.
I THINK, UH, WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT BRINGING SOMEBODY IN NOW AND HAVING THEM EXPLAIN SOME, UH, FEES AND, YOU KNOW, THE LEVELS OF SUPPORT, UH, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
UM, I MEAN, WE JUST AS A DISTRICT WENT TO, UH, ELECTRONIC, UH, TICKETS FOR OUR, UH, MAINTENANCE, UH,
SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY FAR BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL.
UH, I, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM OF IMPROVEMENT WHERE WE CAN STREAMLINE, UH, AND MAKE OUR PROCESSES ACROSS THE DISTRICT, UM, UH, MORE EFFICIENT, UH, AND LESS COSTLY.
UM, SO, UM, YEAH, AS FAR AS THAT GOES, UH, UM, I MEAN, UM, MAYBE YOU START, UH, WHEN, WHEN, UH, SUPERINTENDENT STARTS HIS, HIS FUNDING, UM, OR HIS, UH, BUDGET, UH, ANALYSIS AND ALL KIND OF STUFF, WE START LOOKING AT SOMEBODY WITH A DIRECTOR LEVEL, UH, POSITION.
UM, UNDERSTANDING OF COURSE, UH, AS MR. SCHOEN WAS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO BRING SOMEBODY INTO THAT CALIBER,
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UH, IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME AND SOME RECRUITING EFFORT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, UM, ON FULL TIME ANYWAYS.UH, BUT IT, I MEAN, IT'S WORTH, UH, HAVING A CONVERSATION WHEN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, AT THE VERY LEAST.
AND MR. SMITH, UM, IS HE STILL THERE? HE LOOKS, OH, THERE IS, SORRY.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, BUT ALSO I THINK THAT THIS IS A, UH, A, A A A A DEFINITELY A SLEEP ON, UM, MY RE I'M GONNA SLEEP ON THIS WITH MY RESPONSE, BUT, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT WEEK THAT, THAT I, IT SEEMS AROUND TALKING IN, IN THE TALK AROUND, UH, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT GETTING, GETTING, UH, MORE, MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IS, IS WHAT, IS WHAT, UH, IT SEEMS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN IN A, IN A, IN AND ABOUT AND ABOUT, UH, GETTING ACTUAL RESULTS.
SO OF SAYING THAT I, I THINK THAT I'M GOING TO SLEEP ON, ON, ON, ON THE, ON THE RE ON THE, HOW TO REMEDY THIS.
BUT, UH, I, I, I, I DID HEAR WHAT MR. MR. GEIER SAID, BUT MY, MY QUESTIONING AND, AND, AND ONE OF MY CONCERNS, EVEN, EVEN WITH THAT IS IF YOU GET THIS CONSULTANT ONCE A YEAR, HOW MUCH WILL THAT CONSULTANT COST? 'CAUSE CONSULTANTS AREN'T CHEAP.
AND SO, SO, SO VERSUS PAYING FOR 'EM EVERY ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, I MEAN, OR TWICE A YEAR OR TWICE EVERY TWO YEARS, WILL THAT PERSON BE MORE MEANINGFUL, LONG TERM, GETTING MORE BANG FOR YOU IN TERMS OF GETTING MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK ON STAFF VERSUS THAT ONCE A, THAT ONCE A YEAR PITCH? AND HOW INNOVATIVE WILL, WILL YOU KEEP THAT PERSON? SO, SO, SO I, I JUST WANT TO BRUSH ME UP ON, ON, ON THIS TOPIC A LITTLE BIT PRIOR TO, UH, SPEAKING AND SPEAKING INTO IT.
AND I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT ALL THAT THIS COULD, COULD, UH, BE A MAYBE A GREAT, UH, FUTURE TOPIC.
I THINK THAT, THAT WE SHOULD REVISIT THIS, REVISIT THIS CONVERSATION.
ALSO WONDERING WHAT OTHER TOPICS DO WE HAVE OUT THERE FROM PRIOR, UM, PRIOR MEETING FROM TODAY? WHAT OTHER TOPICS MEAN LEFT OVER FROM SEPTEMBER OF 2025? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I THINK THE MAIN THING WE WERE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE TRYING TO WORK ON, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND SORT OF PUT A PIN IN THE CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE TO MY UNDERSTANDING, WE ARE STILL NOT A ALLOWING ACCESS TO ANY AI TYPE, UH, SOFTWARE.
THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS LOCKED IN ON MAGIC SCHOOL.
AND THEN STAFF MEMBERS CAN STILL USE YOUR, UH, CHAT.
GPP
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AN ONGOING TOPIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BREAKAGE FEES AND FINES, WHICH WE, UM, NOW HAVE THIS NEW ONE-TO-ONE, WHICH I HAVE TO SAY, THE FACT THAT WE JUST STARTED TRACKING INVENTORY OUTSIDE OF DESTINY, THE LIBRARY OF, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARE.
I MEAN, THAT IS, THAT'S A STATEMENT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING.
SO THIS ONE-TO-ONE LOOKS GREAT.
I LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GET BETTER DATA GOING FORWARD.
SO THOSE WERE THE TWO THINGS THAT I WAS AWARE OF.
WHAT OTHER THINGS AM I MISSING, MR. SMITH? UM, I, I KNOW I, I REQUESTED SOME TOPICS PRIOR TO THAT.
I, I'M, UM, MAYBE MRS. CUSH MAY HAVE A, UH, A RUN, A RUNNING LIST OF, UH, FOR OUR FUTURE TOPICS FOR THIS, UH, COMMITTEE.
SORRY, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THAT READY.
MS. KUSH, THE ONLY FUTURE TOPIC THAT WE HAVE LEFT, LEFT THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED, UM, THAT WAS MOVED FORWARD WAS THE PARENT, UM, COMMUNITY, SIC, UM, UH, COMMITTEE THAT YOU HAD SPOKE ABOUT.
WELL, I DO THINK THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, AND I, I KIND OF HAD THAT IN MY HEAD ABOUT USING TECHNOLOGY AND GETTING PARENTS TO ENGAGE ON THIS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
UM, BECAUSE AS WE SEE YOU HAVE TWO PARENTS, UH, ON THE COMMITTEE HERE, AND NEITHER OF US KNEW THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO CALL THE POLICE WITHIN 24 HOURS OF A DISTRICT DEVICE GOING MISSING.
UM, I DON'T THINK PARENTS ARE READING THAT TECHNOLOGY A UP, IT'S, AND AGAIN, WE'RE PROBABLY, IS IT ON, I'M ASSUMING IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? YES, IT IS.
AND IT'S DISTRICTWIDE, IT'S NOT SCHOOL SPECIFIC DISTRICTWIDE.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, PARENTS KINDA LIKE SURE, WHATEVER, SIGN IT, JUST GET THE DEVICE IN DURING REGISTRATION AND AREN'T REALLY NECESSARILY AS, UM, CLUED IN TO SOME OF THE THINGS.
AND SO IT COMES AS A SHOCK SOMETIMES, UH, WHEN YOU GET A, A FEE OR YOU, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT I, WHAT I THINK IS, UM, INTERESTING TO ME IS, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD MAKE THE WEBSITE THROUGH USE OF SOME SORT OF TECHNOLOGY WHERE PARENTS COULD GET PLAIN NATURAL LANGUAGE
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ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS? CERTAINLY THE TECHNOLOGY EXISTS.UM, CURRENTLY WE ARE USING, WHEN YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT WE'RE USING AGAIN? UM, SHOOT, FOR OUR, FOR OUR AR AR THERE'S SOME SORT OF THING THAT CAME BACK IN LIKE 2008.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MR. SHOHAN? I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF THE APP.
AND IT WAS LIKE, IT'S LIKE 15 YEARS OLD, RIGHT? YES.
SO JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE, THE BOARD'S EDIFICATION OUR AR, IF YOU ARE A PARENT WITH A QUESTION ABOUT AN AR, YOU CLICK ON THE WEBSITE, YOU GO TO AR, UM, OR ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS, AND IT PULLS UP THIS BOARD POLICY ONLINE.COM/LOCATION BUFORT, RIGHT? AND YOU BASICALLY, IT IS VERY DATED TECHNOLOGY.
THERE IS A SEARCH, BUT IF I WERE TO SEARCH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING NOT COMPLETELY SPECIFIC, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ABOUT 17 HITS.
AND THE ONLY WAY TO GO THROUGH IT IS TO MANUALLY OPEN AND YOU HAVE TO OPEN SEVERAL ITERATIONS.
YOU HAVE TO OPEN COHERENT GOVERNANCE VERSUS ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, OPERATING UHRS VERSUS SCHOOL SERVICERS.
AND THEN THERE, SOME OF THEM ARE IN SPANISH, AND YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND FIND THE PDF.
AND THEN THE PDF IS NOT REALLY WRITTEN FOR GENERAL CONSUMPTION.
IT'S MORE OR LESS WRITTEN TO HAVE IT TECHNICALLY COMPLIANT WITH THE FACT THAT THERS ARE LISTED ON OUR REGULATION.
SO I DON'T THINK MANY PARENTS KNOW ABOUT THIS.
I DON'T THINK, OH, WE DO HAVE A NEW, UM, TRANSLATE BUTTON THAT'S, THAT'S NEW.
IS, IS THAT A NEW THING? I, I JUST SAW THAT YOU CAN TRANSLATE THE WHOLE THING INTO SPANISH.
'CAUSE FOR A WHILE HALF OF IT WAS IN OH,
SO IT'S, SO NOW IT'S TRANSLATED, IT'S GOT GOOGLE TRANSLATE BUILT IN.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT OTHER, MORE, I THINK TECH FORWARD DISTRICTS, THEY HAVE ABANDONED THIS, YOU KNOW, 15-YEAR-OLD WEBSITE FORMAT.
AND THE THING IS, I THINK IT WOULD BE SO HELPFUL FOR PARENTS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE WEBSITE AND TYPE IN WHAT DO I DO IF MY KID CAN'T FIND THEIR LAPTOP? AND IT WOULD PULL UP LIKE, SOME SORT OF RETRIEVAL, AUGMENTED GENERATION, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF THING.
LIKE ACCORDING TO THE TECHNOLOGY, A UP AFTER 24, YOU KNOW, AND GIVE THEM THE STEPS, CERTAINLY WITH DISCIPLINE THAT KIND OF LIKE CHANGES THAT WOULD ALLOW PARENTS TO ENGAGE.
'CAUSE OUR WEBSITE IS FULL OF INFORMATION.
IT IS NOT PARTICULARLY EASY TO MANEUVER PAST THE HOMEPAGE, YOU KNOW, AND TRYING TO FIND THINGS.
SO IT WAS JUST SOMETHING I THOUGHT MAYBE IT'D BE AN IDEA OF SOMETHING WE COULD WORK ON TO START INTRODUCING AI TO HELP PARENTS ENGAGE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
BUT I, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW IT'S HARD TO FIND STUFF.
AND I WOULD SAY I DON'T THINK PARENTS ARE ALL THAT INFORMED ABOUT ARS AND DISCIPLINE MATRIX.
I KNOW THEY'RE NOT INFORMED ABOUT DISCIPLINE MATRIX, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, WE COULD DO.
ARE YOU TRYING TO GET THE THING UP THERE, ROBIN? NO, IT'S UP THERE.
I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ELSE YOU WANTED TO GO.
I JUST PULLED UP THE ONLINE AND I DID PULL UP
WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DO YOU NEED TO GO? GO TO ABOUT US ADMINISTRATIVE REGULATIONS, WHICH AGAIN, MOST PARENTS DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CALLED.
AND THERE IT'S, SO IF YOU WANNA FIND OUT THE DISCIPLINE MATRIX, ROBIN, TRY TO FIND THE DISCIPLINE MATRIX ONE, CLICK TWO CLICKS, AND ROBIN KNOWS WHERE IT IS.
IT MIGHT BE SS 16 DISCIPLINES OF STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES.
WHERE'S THE MATRIX? SCROLL DOWN.
KEEP SCROLLING, I GUESS, ISN'T THERE, THE MATRIX IS ON THERE SOMEWHERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S EXHIBIT SS DASH 18 E FOUR.
NOW, IF YOUR KID HAS BEEN CAUGHT VIOLATION OF, LET'S SAY, DRINKING OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL, HOW WOULD YOU FIND THAT? SO FIRST YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH ALL THE DEFINITIONS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, YOU, YOU GET THE POINT.
THE POINT IS IT'S MADE THE DISCIPLINE MATRIX NOT USEFUL OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT OFFICE AND POSSIBLY THE SCHOOL BOARD WHEN WE REVIEW IT ANNUALLY.
AND IT IS NOT BECAUSE THE INFORMATION'S NOT THERE, BUT IN 2025 IS NOT A WAY.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE A SIMPLE THING TO UNDERTAKE.
I THINK IT WOULD PROVIDE TREMENDOUS, UH, EASE AND WITH PARENTS ENGAGING AND UNDERSTANDING
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A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE FOR CUTTING CLASS, FOR CHEATING FOR CONTRABAND, UM, FIRST OCCURRENCE, SECOND OCCURRENCE, THIRD OCCURRENCE DEFINITION.I MEAN, THERE'S GOOD INFORMATION HERE.
IT'S JUST NOT ACCESSIBLE TO MOST PEOPLE UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY, REALLY DETERMINED.
SO MARK, HOW REALISTIC WOULD BE TO ADD SOMETHING HERE TO, TO MODERNIZE THIS JUST THERS AS JUST A FIRST STEP AND SAY THIS BOARD POLICY ONLINE.COM THAT THE STATE GAVE US 15 YEARS AGO IS NOT UP TO SNUFF.
AND WE'RE GOING TO, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS TO FIXING THAT AI ENGINE, PUT IT INTO AN AI? YEAH, WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO TALK WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND, UM, THE WEBSITE PROVIDER TO SEE IF, UH, THERE IS OPTIONS FOR BACKEND AI AND HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST.
BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A TON, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO.
THIS IS WHERE I THINK TECHNOLOGY IS BEING UNDERUSED IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS, BUT THIS IS, MAY JUST BE MY OWN PERSONAL CRUSADE, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND SOME BITE-SIZED THING THAT WE COULD START LOOKING AT AND SAYING, HERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY OUTTA DATE THAT HAS IMMEDIATE IMPACT TO THE SCHOOLS.
WHAT, HOW HARD WOULD IT BE TO, TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA MAKE THAT A FUTURE TOPIC OR IF THIS IS JUST ME SORT OF LOOKING AT IT, LIKE I WOULD LOOK AT IT WHERE I WORK.
UH, YEAH, I WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND TALK WITH A COUPLE OF, UH, DEPARTMENTS TO, TO GET SOME MORE INSIGHT INTO IT.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SOME, UH, DISCUSSIONS OUT TO THE ACTUAL PROVIDER TO FIND OUT WHAT IS AVAILABLE
BECAUSE THE THING IS, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S ME SORT OF AS THE CHAIR OF TECHNOLOGY SAYING SOMETHING THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, WHICH IS NOT REALLY WHAT COMMITTEES DO.
BUT I WONDER IF THE OPERATIONAL EXPECTATION FOR TECHNOLOGY COULD BE FIND WAYS TO ENGAGE PARENTS AND REDUCE CLICKS.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, COLONEL GEIER AS THE CHAIR OF THE, OF THE FULL BOARD, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE A VALID APPROACH TO HAVE THE TECH? I DON'T EVEN, I, AS A TECHNOLOGY CHAIR, I'M NOT SURE WHAT MOTION I WOULD BRING OUT.
I'M NOT, NOT SURE WHAT'S APPROPRIATE.
I, I BELIEVE YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION FROM, UH, YOUR COMMITTEE REPORT THAT THE, UH, THE BOARD, UH, TASKED DR. RODRIGUEZ TO DO A SEARCH ON HOW TO MAKE, AND THEN YOU COULD USE THIS ONE PARTICULAR EXAMPLE TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH IT, IT IS NOT A MATTER OF COULD YOU DO IT, WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BACKEND, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AI TYPE, UH, BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO READ THE QUESTION NO MATTER HOW IT'S FORMATTED, FORMATTED, AND PUTS YOU RIGHT TO THE ANSWER.
UH, BUT I THINK YOU COULD MAKE AN EASILY MAKE A MOTION TO SAY, TAKE ONE SUBJECT TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PARENTS TO ACCESS.
AND YOU COULD SAY, YOU COULD SAY THIS SUBJECT FOR EXAMPLE, AND ASK, SAY FOR DR. RODRIGUEZ TO, UH, EXPLORE THE COST AND, UH, UH, HOW FAST SUPPLEMENT THIS COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.
MR. NAY IS THE OTHER MINI PERSON HERE.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, I'M NOT TRYING TO, UH, TO DIS ANYBODY ON THE STAFF OR WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT, IT SEEMS LIKE RIGHT NOW WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL THAT JUST THIS LOGISTICALLY SEEMS LIKE TOO HUGE OF A LEAP FORWARD, UH, AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING TECHNOLOGY MAY, MAYBE IT IS, MAYBE IT ISN'T.
UM, BUT IT'S LIKE, LIKE I SAID, WE, WE JUST WENT TO AN ETIC FOR OUR, FOR FOR MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, FOR TROUBLE TICKETS.
UM, SO LIKE, MAY, MAY, MAYBE THIS IS A LOGICAL STEP FORWARD.
MAYBE IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING FROM 1990 TO 2025 TOO FAST AND WE HAVEN'T HIT ALL THE BENCHMARKS IN BETWEEN.
UM, BUT, UH, IT'S, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FE FEASIBILITY OF, UH, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S AHEAD OF WHAT WE HAVE SOME OTHER BASIC BENCHMARKS TO ACCOMPLISH? UM, MAYBE THIS COULD OPEN THE DOOR TO OTHER THINGS.
UH, I'M NOT AS FAR AS TECHNOLOGY GOES, I'M NOT SURE, UH, UH, IN THE, THE CYCLE OF PROGRESSION, UH, LEVEL OF, UH, TECHNOLOGY ESCALATION, HOW FAR UP THE LADDER IS THIS FROM WHERE WE'RE AT.
I THINK THAT'S MY ULTIMATE DILEMMA FOR THE TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE IS WHAT REALISTICALLY CAN WE DRIVE, HOW CAN WE REALISTICALLY
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DRIVE POLICY, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DRIVE ACTUAL ACTIONS.I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY I WANT THE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT TO DO THIS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO START LOOKING AT HOW DO WE DRIVE THE DISTRICT TO ADOPTING MORE TECHNOLOGY AND TO COMING UP WITH MORE INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS AND TO GETTING ALL OF OUR TICKETING SYSTEMS. BECAUSE I AM AN OLDER PARENT, UM, AND I EXPECT IT TO BE DIFFERENT THAN THIS.
I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE YOUNGER PARENTS' EXPECTATIONS ARE EVEN FAR.
I'LL, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, JUST FOR FUN, I HAD A VERY SMART, UM, HIT ONE OF OUR TOP STUDENTS IN THE DISTRICT WORKING WITH ME THIS SUMMER, AND I WAS DOING SOMETHING.
SO I ASKED HER TO HELP ME OUT BECAUSE I HAD HORRIBLE HAND DRY.
I ASKED HER TO, UM, WE HAD TO SEND OUT ABOUT 20 LETTERS BY MAIL AND I SAID, COULD YOU, UM, PRINT OUT AND MAIL OUT THESE LETTERS? AND SHE PUT THE ADDRESS WHERE THE STAMP WOULD GO BECAUSE SHE HAD NEVER MAILED A LETTER AND DID, HAD NOT SEEN A LE JUST NO, HAD NO INTERACTION WITH MAIL WHATSOEVER.
SO HERE'S WHERE OUR STUDENTS ARE AT, RIGHT? HERE'S WHERE OUR DISTRICT IS AT.
I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN MR. JOHAN'S ABILITY TO DO MORE INNOVATIVE STRATEGIC THINKING.
I THINK WE NEED FINANCIAL SUPPORT, AND I THINK WE NEED BUY-IN FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE DISTRICT.
I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, AND TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT THAT PATHWAY, HAVING THESE MEETINGS ARE NOT GONNA BE ALL THAT USEFUL.
I, I THINK, UH, PROBABLY, UH, A GOOD PLACE TO START WOULD BE THE CONSULTANT THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.
UM, GETTING A CONSULTANT IN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER WILL TELL US, UH, SOMEBODY THAT'S AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD CAN TELL US EXACTLY HOW FAR BEHIND WE ARE AND MAYBE WHERE THE BASIC STEPS TO START, UH, THAT OPEN THE DOOR TO OTHER ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE CAN START BUILDING ON.
UM, THAT, THAT TO ME SEEMS LIKE A, A GOOD MODEL TO START WITH.
THE REST OF YOU ON THE BOARD AGREE WITH THAT? UH, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT, UM, TO ME, UH, THIS HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT THIS HAS BEEN LIKE, WE'VE HAD THIS CON I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I I, I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING AS LIKE, UH, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION A LONG TIME AGO.
WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION YEARS AGO THAT THE DISTRICT WEBSITE HAS BEEN TOO DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE ON, AND HOW DO YOU FIND STUFF? AND PARENTS AND PEOPLE EVEN CAME TO BOARD BOARD MEETINGS YEARS AGO, AND I SAID, LISTEN, THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN'T FIND NOTHING ON.
THAT WAS THE POINT OF US CHANGING FROM THE LAST WEBSITE TO THIS WEBSITE.
IF MY MEMORY SHOWED ME CORRECTLY, THIS WEBSITE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE EASIER.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MUCH MORE QUICKER TO NAVIGATE, AND INFORMATION WAS SUPPOSED TO COME QUICKER.
SO I, I I, I, I'M KIND OF NOT TRYING TO STRAIN NOTHING BECAUSE MY, I HAVE MOSTLY MIXTURE.
I MOSTLY, WELL, I JUST KIND OF HAVE, UH, SOME, SOME CONCERNS AND, UH, AND EMOTIONS HERE BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND GOING OUT AND JUMPING ON SOMETHING.
AND IT'S STILL NOT POINT A SERVICE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
EVEN PRIOR TO EVEN GETTING THE, UM, THE, UH, THE, UH, WHAT THE, THE PERSON WE JUST TALKED ABOUT BRINGING IN, UH, MR. NA, THE, UM, THE CONSULTANT IN, PRIOR TO GETTING THE CONSULTANT IN, I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP, WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OUT OF THE CONSULTANT ONCE THEY GET HERE.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
CAN YOU DO THIS? OR CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THESE THINGS? I THINK WE NEED, WE NEED TO HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS CONSULTANT AND FOR TECHNOLOGY TO BE HEADING FOR.
BECAUSE JUST BRING THE CONSULTANT IN AND LET THEM TELL US.
HE, YOU, YOU CAN BRING A PILOT IN AND THE PILOT WILL TELL YOU, HEY, LOOK HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA GO TO JAMAICA.
THE PILOT COMES IN AND SAY, HEY, LOOK HERE.
HEY, I WANNA TAKE YOU TO THE GRAND CANYON, BUT YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T WANNA GO TO JAMAICA.
BUT IT'S, IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS HE GONNA COME IN AND WHAT PRODUCT IS HE GONNA SELL THAT HE'S MORE COMFORTABLE WITH.
SO WE DON'T WANT NOBODY TO COME IN AND TELL US ABOUT WHAT PRODUCT THEY'RE MORE COMFORTABLE IN.
WHAT DO WE REALLY WANT TO GET BY BRINGING THIS PERSON IN? SO WE NEED, SO, AND THIS YEAR HERE I'M GO BE THE RESULTS SECTION AND THE RESULTS IS I'M LOOKING FOR RESULTS.
ALL THE TALK AROUNDS, I'M NOT UP FOR THAT.
I'M LOOKING FOR STRAIGHT RESULTS.
SO WHAT RESULTS DO WE WANT? WHY, WHY ARE WE GETTING THIS PER THIS PERSON TO COME IN? BECAUSE WE OUGHT TO BE REMINDED THAT WE, THAT WE DO HAVE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE SPENDING IN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, HEY, WHAT WAS THE POINT OF BRINGING THE, BRINGING THE CONSULTANT AND YOU JUST CHANGE, YOU JUST, YOU JUST NOT LONG AGO CHANGED WEBSITES.
IT WAS NOT JUST NOT LONG AGO WE CHANGED WEBSITES.
SO WHAT'S THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, BRINGING THAT PERSON IN? I THINK THAT'S SMITH.
AND I THINK FOR THE WEBSITE, FIRST OF ALL, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE, THAT WE'VE MADE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS ON THE WEBSITE, A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS, SORT OF A BACKEND FRONT END.
THE WEBSITE LOOKS NICER, IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO NAVIGATE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT THIS INFORMATION THAT A PARENT MIGHT BE TRYING TO GET AT, IT'S JUST NOT AS USER FRIENDLY BECAUSE THE BACK END, THE DATA'S STILL KIND OF BEING HELD IN A, UM, OLD FASHIONED VESSEL OF SORTS.
BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THE PARENT SIC BECAUSE I
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THINK ONE THING THAT IS MISSING IS ARE WE TALKING TO PARENTS ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES USING TECHNOLOGY, GETTING INFORMATION FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, ON AR, THE, THE A UP FOR TECHNOLOGY? WHAT ARE THEIR GOAL? BECAUSE I DO THINK, FROM WHAT I HEAR OUT AND THE OTHER PARENTS IN THE COMMUNITIES, TECHNOLOGY'S A, EVERYONE'S KIND OF FREAKED OUT ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.AND, YOU KNOW, THE JOB MARKET'S DRYING UP IN A LOT OF INDUSTRIES BECAUSE IT'S BEING REPLACED BY AI.
AND, UH, SO PARENTS ARE CONCERNED, LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO GET OUR KIDS READY FOR THIS RAPIDLY APPROACHING FUTURE? AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE.
SO I THINK MAYBE WE DO NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOMEHOW, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE 11 OF US ON THE BOARD CAN REALLY MAKE AN ASSESSMENT OF HERE'S WHAT WE'RE NOT THE EXPERTS ON, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION, TECHNOLOGY.
BUT I THINK THAT WE, WE GOT MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM THE SIC, THIS MIGHT BE A GREAT THING TO TAKE TO SICS AND SAY, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED? WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE VALUE ADDED AT BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT CAN USE TECHNOLOGY? IF WE'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE WILLING TO SPEND SOME MONEY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE IT, BUT WE'RE
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WORTH DOING JUST BEFORE WE BRING IN A CONSULTANT.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, MR. JOHAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? UM, I'M ALL FOR BRINGING A CONSULTANT.
UM, AND I DO AGREE THAT SIC WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO BRING IN COMMUNITY AND PARENT CONCERNS.
IT MIGHT PINPOINT FIVE OR SIX GOALS THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DRIVE TOWARDS TO KNOW WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO GET IN THE END PRODUCT AND NOT JUST SICS MS. BALL, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU HAVE COMMUNITIES AS WELL THAT DID THAT.
SOME PARENTS AREN'T S IIC, JUST LIKE I HAD A PARENT THE OTHER DAY WHO, UH, A ACT OR WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, WHAT'S THE, OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THAT PARENTS CAN GO ON AND, AND, UH, AND LOOK AT THEIR KIDS' GRADES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, SO IF, IF WE HAVE PARENTS THAT ARE USING POWERSCHOOL AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IN THIS DISTRICT, HOW MANY PARENTS DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT ARE ACTUALLY UTILIZING POWERSCHOOL? BECAUSE TO ME, THAT IS A, THAT, THAT IS A PART OF PARENT OF PARENT ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE THE PARENTS ARE ENGAGED IN POWERSCHOOL AND THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING, AND THAT SHOWS THAT AN INTEREST.
I'VE ALSO HAD PARENTS WHO HAVE CALLED ME AND ASKED ME, HEY, WHERE CAN I FIND THE MATRIX AT ON THE WEBSITE? I HAVE TO CALL SOMEBODY MYSELF TWO, SOMETIME TIME, TIME TO LOOK FOR IT.
I'D HAVE TO SIT THERE AND TRY TO JUST LIKE HOW Y'ALL JUST SAID ABOUT SIX, SEVEN CLICKS MYSELF.
SO I I, SO THE, SO IN, IN SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE PROBABLY WOULD ENGAGE IF WE MAKE IT MORE PEOPLE FRIENDLY.
AND SO MAKING IT MORE PEOPLE BE PEOPLE FRIENDLY, I THINK THAT THAT'S A QUESTION, BECAUSE THAT QUESTION COMES TO ME A, A LOT.
AND THEN YOU, YOU SAID THAT THE QUESTIONS COME TO YOU.
SO IF THE PARENTS ARE USING THE POWER SCHOOL, THEN IF, IF THE WEBSITE IS NOT PEOPLE'S FRIENDLY, THAT NOT, THAT'S UPON US TO MAKE IT PEOPLE FRIENDS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN USE IT AND PEOPLE CAN'T GET COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
SO IT, IT, IT IS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE 11 BOARD MEMBERS ARE ARE, ARE THE ARE OR WHETHER WE ARE WEAKLY SMARTER.
THIS YOU, IT COMES OUT TO THEM.
JUST GOOD COMMON SENSE AND GOOD COMMON SENSE IS THAT WE, WE DECIDED THAT WE KNOW THAT WE NEED, WE NEED THIS WEBSITE TO BE MORE PEOPLE FRIENDLY TO WHERE PEOPLE CAN, CAN HAVE, YOU CAN HAVE A BOX YOU CAN TYPE A QUESTION IN AND, AND, AND THE WEBSITE CAN GIVE YOU INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.
I MEAN, W WE JUST SITTING HERE AND MEETING, WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY DECIDED THAT, THAT WE ALL THINK, WE ALL IN COMMON IN AGREEMENT THAT WE, THAT, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE.
UH, I, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T, UH, THOUGHT ABOUT THIS SO FAR, BUT IT, LIKE, UH, HISTORY HAS PROVEN THAT COMMON SENSE IS NOT A COMMON VIRTUE
BUT, UH, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, I MEAN THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T SURVEY OUR STAFF SURVEY THE ADMINISTRATION, SURVEY OUR PARENTS, AND SURVEY OUR, OUR STUDENTS AND ASK THEM, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE SHOULD WE, UH, PUT, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR EFFORT AT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IN TECHNOL TECHNO TECHNOLOGICAL IMPROVEMENT? UM, AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.
I MEAN, WE SURVEY, WE SURVEY FOR THE BUDGET AND WE SURVEY FOR ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.
UM, MEAN WE SURVEY THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY OVER OUR, OUR, OUR FACE CHANGE, UH, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO WHY CAN'T WE SURVEY THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, MOVEMENTS AND TECHNOLOGY MAKES SENSE TO ME.
SO MAYBE THEN WHAT WE COULD DO, MR. JOHAN, IS BEFORE WE GET A CONSULTANT, HOW HARD WOULD IT BE EITHER TO MIMIC LIKE THE BUDGET PROCESS OR SOMETHING TO DEVELOP SOME SORT OF A SURVEY INSTRUMENT? BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE QUESTIONS YOU WERE ASKING AND HOW YOU'RE ASKING THEM, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG PART OF HOW YOU'RE GETTING FEEDBACK.
I WOULDN'T WANNA JUST SEND OUT AND BE LIKE, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE CHANGED, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TECHNOLOGY? LIKE WHAT SOFTWARE ARE YOU USING? HOW HELPFUL IS THE SOFTWARE, YOU KNOW, OF THESE SOFTWARE PROGRAMS YOU'RE USING? I THINK THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO DO.
IS THAT REALISTIC, MR. SHOHAN, THAT WE COULD START WORKING ON SOME
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SORT OF WAY IF WE HAD A MOTION COMING OUTTA THE BOARD TO DO A SURVEY OF TECHNOLOGY IN THE DISTRICT? ABSOLUTELY.WE HAVE LICENSES FOR SURVEYMONKEY.
WE USE 'EM PRETTY REGULARLY TO GET FEEDBACK FROM STAFF, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO SET UP, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THE HARDEST PART IS THE QUESTIONS.
WHAT DO WE WANNA ASK? THE SURVEY CAN'T BE TOO LONG BECAUSE THE PARENTS WILL GET BORED AND WON'T FILL IT OUT.
UM, IN GENERAL, IF WE PUT OUT A SURVEY, YOU KNOW, TO 4,000 PEOPLE, WE'RE LUCKY TO GET 1500 TO RESPOND.
I'LL SAY 1500 RESPONSES FOR SURE.
I THINK WE NEED DIFFERENT SURVEYS.
I THINK WE NEED A ADMIN SURVEY, A SCHOOL STAFF SURVEY, A PARENT SURVEY, AND A STUDENT SURVEY AT A MINIMUM.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, RIGHT? UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN COMBINE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE KIND OF CUMBERSOME, BUT LET'S LET, IT'S GONNA BE FIVE O'CLOCK.
AND LIKE I SAID, I, I AM FRUSTRATED JUST BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO DO MORE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO DO IT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS EVOLVING PLAN.
IF WE CAN HAVE A MOTION, IF THERE'S SUPPORT FOR IT HERE IN THE COMMITTEE, TO ASK THE MR. CHOHAN TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP A SURVEY INSTRUMENT, UM, TO ASSESS, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW PEOPLE ARE FEELING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY.
I'M SURE THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO PHRASE THAT.
AND THEN AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE COULD REVIEW THE INITIAL SORT OF THING AND BE WHEN, WHEN THE, IF THE BOARD SUPPORTS THAT INITIATIVE.
UM, THAT COULD BE OUR, OUR FUTURE COUPLE OF MEETINGS IS SORT OF WORKING ON GETTING THAT SURVEY TOGETHER AND OUT AND SEEING THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT BEFORE WE HIRE A CONSULTANT.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A REASONABLE PLAN, MR. NAY? YES.
UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, TO WORD THE, THE, THE, THE MOTION.
UM, SO I MOVE THAT WE, UM, PRESENT TO THE BOARD A A MOTION TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO, UM, SURVEY AND, UH, IMPLEMENT, UH, THE RESPONSE, UH, UH, I GUESS, UH, IN MOVING FORWARD WITH CONSULTING, UH, ON OUR TECHNOLOGICAL ISSUES.
YOU GOT A LOT OF WORDS IN THERE,
UH, I MEAN, RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD THAT THE SUPERINTENDENT, UH, LOOK AT OUR TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AND, UH, IMPLEMENT SURVEYS AND ANY OTHER NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS.
I WAS THINKING MORE, MORE SOMETHING MORE SIMPLE OF, OF I THINK THAT WE, THAT, THAT, UH, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, THAT WE, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE BOARD, TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD TO THE BOARD TO DO A, TO A, A SURVEY ON THE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT AND, AND, AND THEN BRING AND BRING THOSE RESULTS BACK TO US.
BECAUSE ONCE WE GET THOSE RESULTS, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO, WE WILL, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE, I THINK THERE WOULD NEED TO BE ANOTHER CONVERSATION UPON WHERE DO WE GO AT NOW FOR THOSE RESULTS AND, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO I, I, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S SIMPLE CLEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, I MEAN, YEAH, SOMEBODY PUT IN A CHAT.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO GIVE SOMETHING TO ROBIN, BUT I THINK WE GET THE GIST.
MR. COLONEL GEIER, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? ARE YOU DIRECTING THE SUPERINTENDENT TO DO A SURVEY OR WHAT ARE THIS COMMITTEE IS
WE HAVE TO DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT, RIGHT? THAT'S THEIR, OUR, WE, WE DIRECT OTHER PEOPLE.
SO THIS COMMITTEE IS DIRECTING THE SUPERINTENDENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A SURVEY, UM, TECHNOLOGY CLIMATE SURVEY.
DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY? EXACTLY, YES.
AND THEN I'LL BRING OUT MY REPORT THAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE THAT WE WILL INCLUDE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF, TEACHERS, UH, STUDENTS AND PARENTS, THAT IT'S NOT A TECHNO THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A BROAD SCOPE.
UM, BUT I LIKE THAT CLIMATE SURVEY.
DID I MENTION I PLAY DRUMS FOR A LIVING? YEAH.
I DO LIVING, BUT THE TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE DIRECT THE SUPERINTENDENT TO PROVIDE A TECHNOLOGY CLIMATE SURVEY.
IS THAT ENOUGH? Y'ALL SEND IT.
SO I SECOND THAT SINCE MR. NAY IS MAKING IT IN BY PROXY.
ALL RIGHT THEN NOW WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD TO THE FULL BOARD AND SEE IF THAT GETS US ANYWHERE.
AND THEN, UH, WE'LL PLAN, CAN WE PLAN ANOTHER MEETING WHILE EVERYONE'S HERE? CAN I GET A FUTURE AGENDA TOPIC? YEAH.
UM, OUR CURRENT, UH, ISP INTER INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER IS
WHEN WAS, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE UH, UH, NEGOTIATED A PRO A CONTRACT WITH THEM LESS THAN A YEAR AGO? AND WAS THERE ANY COMPETITION?
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YES.UM, WE HAD, UH, BRIGHT SPEED CENTURYLINK.
UM, THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS I CHANGED TO BRIGHT SPEED AND BRIGHT SPEED SINCE I'VE HAD IT HAD ZERO OUTAGES AND HARGRAVE HAD AT LEAST SEVERAL, SEVERAL.
AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU SHOULD CONSIDER CHANGING ISP PROVIDERS BASED ON THE PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD WITH, UH, HAR.
THE HARDEST THING ABOUT OUR AREA IS THAT WE'RE A COMMUNITY OF ISLANDS.
UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A LOT OF CHOKE POINTS WHERE ALL THOSE FIBERS FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE COME INTO OUR COUNTY AND LEAVE OUR COUNTY GOING DOWN TO GEORGIA.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR TWO MAIN INGRESS, UM, RIGHT THERE GOING DOWN YOUR HARDY BILL TRACK AND GOING OUT YOUR HAMPTON TRACK OF ALL THE FIBERS COMING INTO THIS COUNTY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S ONLY ABOUT FOUR PROVIDERS AND ALL OF THOSE PROVIDERS DO NOT COVER THE WHOLE COUNTY EXCEPT FOR HAR GRAY HAD THE MOST FIBER IN THE COUNTY.
BUT EVEN TRYING TO GET A BACKUP, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR SECONDARY DATA CENTER SOUTH OF ABROAD, AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER PROVIDER AND WE WERE LOOKING AT AT AND T, UM, BUT AT AND T BACK HAULS A LOT OF THEIR FIBER OVER HAR BRAKE
SO, AND AT T BACK HAULS ALL YOUR CELL PHONE, UM, SIGNALS.
SO WE FOUND OUT THAT ALL YOUR CELL PHONE TOWERS GO OUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT HARD BRAKE GOES DOWN.
UM, SO ONE OF THE WAYS WE DID GET A MADE A A, UH, SOME WAY TO GET AROUND THAT IS WE DO HAVE TWO INTERNET CIRCUITS NOW.
WE HAVE OUR MAIN ONE HERE AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE, AND WE HAVE ONE SOUTH OF THE BROAD BECAUSE IF ANYTHING HAPPENS AT THE BROAD RIVER, IT SPLITS US IN HALF BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE FIBER TRUNK LINE COMING ACROSS THE BROAD RIVER TO JOIN THE TWO UH, SIDES OF THE COUNTY.
SO AT LEAST NOW WE DO HAVE A SECONDARY EGRESS.
SO OUR SCHOOLS SHOULD MAINTAIN COMMUNICATIONS AT LEAST HALF OF THEM IN IN ANY GIVEN, UH, FIBER OUTAGE.
UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PERFECT STORM LIKE WE HAD, UH, LAST UH, CHRISTMAS WITH HARD GRAY WHERE WE HAD POOLER, GEORGIA, HARDY V HAMPTON, FOUR THINGS HAPPEN AT ONCE.
THAT WAS JUST THE PERFECT STORM TO BRING US DOWN FOR A 24 HOUR PERIOD.
BUT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, WE GENERALLY NEVER GO MORE THAN ABOUT 12 HOURS WITH A OUTAGE.
AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE DON'T HAVE MORE THAN ABOUT TWO OUTAGES A YEAR.
AND THIS HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS.
SO IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY AND HAVING A SECONDARY PIPE THAT'S NOT BEING USED.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO JUGGLE RIGHT NOW WITH E-RATE FUNDS, IS YOU CAN'T HAVE A BACKUP PIPE TO RUN DATA IF YOU'RE NOT USING IT ACCORDING TO E-RATE AND FEDERAL STANDARDS, YOU DON'T NEED IT.
SO WE DO A LOT OF THINGS TO GIVE US, UH, BACKUP OPTIONS, UH, WITHOUT A BACKUP SITTING THERE COLD.
I JUST KIND OF WENT OFF ON A TANGENT THERE.
AND, AND WE SHOULD, UH, BE, HAVE A DISCUSSION OF WHETHER OR NOT, UH, WE INFORM OUR GRADE ABOUT OUR DISSATISFACTION AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO MAKE IT MORE RELIABLE OR SOMETHING.
OR WE, WE CHANGE VENDORS OR WHATEVER.
BUT ROBIN, FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO THE SURVEY DECISION.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T EXPECT A FULLY EXECUTED SURVEY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE'LL HAVE IT TO THE BOARD.
'CAUSE I THINK WE'LL BRING THIS UP AT THE WORK SESSION.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN OUR NEXT MEETING, MAYBE START TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, START SEEING WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE OR HAMMERING OUT THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT A CONSULTANT UNTIL WE GET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THE SURVEY.
I AM UP FOR SUGGESTIONS ON THAT ONE PERSONALLY, I'M JUST, I'M SO, UH, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY THE WORD CONSULTANT, BUT I KNOW IT'S A NECESSARY THING.
UM, AND THEN, SORRY, WE'LL ADD THE HAR GRAY DISCUSSION.
AND MR. SHOHAN, IF YOU'LL BRING BACK THE ABSOLUTE SOFTWARE INFORMATION THAT MR. SMITH WAS ASKING FOR.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT MAYBE TWO, UH, START ALSO PRIOR TO,
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TO MEETING THE CONSULTANT.ALSO GET A, A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AS WELL.
BESIDES THE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WILL BE IN THE, UM, WHAT WE WILL GATHER FROM THE SURVEYS.
I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO BE COMING THE LIST OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO COME OUT OF THAT.
AND BY THEN, I'M SURE PEOPLE CAN DO HOMEWORK OR SEE, SEE WHAT THEY THINK THAT, OR, OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE GET BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AS, AS BOARD MEMBERS OR WELL, OUR
TO START, TO START OUR, OUR RUNNING LIST.
SO, UM, JUST PUT THAT ON THERE TOO, ROBIN, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE UPDATE TO THE LIST OF, UM, WANTS AND NEEDS MAYBE.
AND WE NEED TO PICK A DAY FOR SEPTEMBER MEETING.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND MONDAY? YES.
HOW ABOUT SEPTEMBER 15TH AT FOUR O'CLOCK? I DON'T HAVE A CONFLICT.
SEPTEMBER 15TH AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, WE CAN, ANYONE ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE ADJOURNED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING MR. JOHAN.
WILL, UM, MR. SMITH FOR COMING AS WELL? APPRECIATE IT.