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[6. Robert & Toni Allridge are requesting a Variance to construct a Retaining Wall within the River Buffer. The property is located at 49 Peninsula Drive, Bluffton. The property is zoned Moss Creek Planned Unit Development (PUD). ]
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. WHAT'S THE HEIGHT ON HERE AFTER THE BREAK VERSUS WHERE THE MARCH SO IT'S PROBABLY A TWO AND A HALF TO THREE FOOT THREE IT'S ACTUALLY A TOP OF BANK.
CAN YOU SEE THAT THERE'S A DASH LINE ONE OF THOSE IS LABELED TOP OF BANK.
THERE'S LABELED BOTTOM OF BANK AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A FOOT BECAUSE OF COURSE IF YOU LOOK HERE THIS IS SORT OF A CHANGING IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS .
SO I THINK ASKED THE QUESTION LAST MORE IS THERE ANY OTHER BULKHEADS IN THIS AREA? DID YOU HAVE ANY PHOTOS OF IT SHOWING THAT THERE ARE BULKHEADS OUT THERE? YEAH MEAN WE COULD WE CAN PRESENT PHOTOS WE CAN THERE'S A THERE'S NINE OF THEM ACTUALLY RIGHT I THINK TWO HOUSES DOWN THERE'S NINE IN A ROW BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX AN EROSION ISSUE.
IT'S NOT SO A FLOODING ISSUE BECAUSE FLOODING I MEAN IT DOES GET FLOODING BUT MORE MORE OR LESS THE LINE IS WHEN EROSION IN THE SALTWATER IS COMING IN, IT'S TAKING DIRT OUT WITH IT AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING EROSION AND SO WE TRY TO KEEP A 50 FOOT BUFFER ZONE AS YOU KNOW ALL AROUND THE WHOLE COUNTY. COUNTY IS A 5050 FOOT AND ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA SO WE TRY TO RESTORE THE BUFFER, PROTECT THE BUFFER, THE BUFFERS THERE TO YOU KNOW, DRAIN STORMWATER KIND OF FILTER STORMWATER BEFORE IT GETS INTO THE MARSH.
MOST PEOPLE HAVE A 50 FOOT BUFFER ZONE. HE'S ONLY GOT A 30 FOOT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO RESTORE THE BUFFER, PUT THE BULKHEAD IN AND THEN ADD SOME PLANTINGS AND TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO RESTORE THE BUFFER. DID YOU SEE THE COUNTIES RECOMMENDATION OR YET OR DID YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH ALL OF THE VEGETATION THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PLANTING YOU KNOW NO, NOT AT ALL. WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TRY TO
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PLANT VEGETATION. THERE'S NOTHING THERE NOW THERE'S A FEW PALM TREES AND THAT'S PRETTY PRETTY MUCH OUT THAT AFTER HURRICANE MATTHEW CAME IN OUT ALL THE TREES AND BECAME THE NEXT YEAR AND TOOK OUT ALL THE DIRT. WELL, I'M CONCERNED THAT THE SE OR OEM HAS DENIED THE APPLICATION. THEY DON'T SEE THAT IT'S NEEDED AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WE HAVE TO RELY ON THEIR EXPERTIZE ON WHEN A WELL THE ACTUAL ESCARPMENT PART THE EROSION PART IS BEHIND THAT LINE AND THEY DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION BUYING THAT LINE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A ROAD BUT THE SHORELINE IS A LIVING THING.SO I MEAN THAT'S IT'S NATURAL FOR IT TO ERODE AND BUILD UP OTHER SO YEAH I MEAN IT IS NATURAL TO TRY TO PROTECT A PERSON'S PROPERTY IN THEIR HOUSE.
YOU HAD ANY CONFERENCE WITH MOSS CREEK REGISTRATION? NOT YET I HAVE.
OKAY. AND THEY SEEM BE SUPPORTIVE. OKAY.
I MEAN LIKE I SAID, THERE'S OTHER NEIGHBORS. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ZONING IN YOU KNOW, IN MOSS CREEK THAT THIS WOULD NOT MEET AND EVIDENTLY IT MEETS ALL THE ZONING. OKAY. OKAY.
HAVE YOU GUYS ANY OF THE AVENUE BESIDES THE BULKHEAD MAYBE REPRESSED KIND OF A SITUATIONAL SORT OF THING WHEREAS YOU KNOW IS STILL GET FLOODING BUT RIP WRAP IS KIND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE DIRT CAN COME IN AND WASH IT OUT UNDERNEATH THERE'S CERTAIN PLACES FOR RIP RAPIDS GOOD IT'S MOST OF THE TIME IT'S LIKE WHERE YOU HAVE A RIVER OR SOMETHING LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF CURRENT WAVE ACTION AND STUFF LIKE THAT VERY REGIONAL ISSUES BUT BUT THINK DIFFERENTLY ON THIS ONE HERE BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE IS WATER RISING TIDE AND IT'S GOING DOWN SO YOU DON'T HAVE WAVE COMING IN ONE TO GET A STORM OR HURRICANE OR LIKE THAT BUT THE BULK IT'S MORE OF A STABLE THING. I MEAN THE RIP WRAP IT'S YOU KNOW IT COMES BACK IF YOU PUT RIP UP IN THIS KIND OF STACK THREE FEET HIGH AND THREE FEET OUT INTO THE MARSH. YEAH, I'M AWARE OF HOW THAT IS STACKED BUT IF WE PUT RIP WRAP IN WE WOULD NOW BE IN ONE FOOT BEHIND THE LINE. IF WE PUT RIP WRAP IN WE WOULD BE TWO FEET IN FRONT OF THE LINE OR WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK IN THREE FEET INTO THE INTO THE PROPERTY. YEAH I WISH I COULD HAVE SEEN SOME PHOTOS OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT MAY HAVE HAD THIS LOCATION IN THEIR ANYWAY. ALL RIGHT.
IS THERE MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU.
WE HEAR FROM THE COUNTY. YES, I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS THIS LOT BEFORE THIS GENTLEMAN BOUGHT IT, THE OWNER BEFORE WENT OUT AND PUT SAND UP THERE OKYEAME, WENT AFTER HIM AND THAT'S ALL THAT'S WASHING OUT ALL THAT SAND THAT HE PUT IN THERE.
YOU KNOW OUR CODE STATE THAT OKYEAME HAS TO GIVE THEM A PERMIT FOR A BULKHEAD.
HE STATES THAT OCR RAM WON'T COME BACK OUT THERE AND YOU KNOW REMARK THE LINE BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME IF YOU NEED HIM TO COME OUT AND MARK THE LINE THE LINE SHOULD MOVE TO WHERE YOU KNOW SO IT'S FURTHER BACK AND THEN THEY WOULD GIVE THEM THE PERMIT YOU KNOW BE SEAWARD OFF THE CRITICAL LINE TO STOP THE EROSION I STILL RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL BECAUSE. I DON'T SEE WHERE THIS IS A HARDSHIP WE HAVE SOMEONE NOW WHO HAS WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING ON 30 LOTS IN COLLEGE AND RIVER AND WE START THIS THIS GARDEN WALL ISSUE OKYEAME NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED WITH THIS ONE CHANGE THE CRITICAL AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD BUT IF THEY KEEP THAT IT'S NOT EROSIONAL THEN I DON'T SEE HOW I CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS SO I STILL RECOMMEND DISAPPROVE OF USE ONLY QUESTION FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE THAT BEING SAID THANK YOU SIR. ONE QUESTION SO YOU'RE SORT OF SAYING IF WE ACCEPT THIS ONE WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT. YES.
YOU HAVE TO PROVE A HARDSHIP. WHAT IS THIS HARDSHIP AND WE RELY ON OCR M TO ESTABLISH THAT THERE IS EROSION GOING ON. SO IF HE FEELS THAT STRONGLY THAT THERE IS EROSION HAVE THEM COME BACK OUT AND RESET THE CRITICAL LINE AND. THEN THEY CAN REQUEST THEIR BULKHEAD FROM M RIGHT AND THEN THE COUNTY WOULD GLADLY GIVE THEM THE OKAY TO BUILD IT THAT
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IT'S REALLY AN ISSUE BETWEEN THEM AND OCR AM AND YES IF OCR WON'T COME BACK UP BECAUSE HE STATED THAT LAST YEAR AT THE LAST MEETING AND DON'T I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WON'T COME BACK OUT AND RE THE CRITICAL LINE IT HAS ERODED THAT MUCH MEAN THE LINE HAS MOVED AND THEY SHOULD COME OUT BUT IF THEY'RE SAYING IT'S NOT EROSIONAL THEN IT'S A GARDEN WALL. IT'S NOT A FOR YOU KNOW THAT OCR IS GOING TO IMPROVE GIVEN THAT WHAT YOU RECOMMEND IT BE DISAPPROVED OR WOULD YOU RECOMMEND IT TO BE DELAYED TO SEE IF THEY CAN GO TO ITS WE ASK THEM IF THEY GO YOU CAN ASK THEM TO GO BACK TO OCR RAM AND ONCE GET THAT REDONE COME BACK BUT IF IF OCR CHANGES IT THINK THAT DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK WE'LL GIVE THEM THE PERMIT TO BUILD THE WALL SO YOU KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO BYPASS OCR.R.M. YEAH, WHICH IS WHERE THEY NEED THE APPROVAL SO YEAH THANK YOU.
YES PLEASE I THOUGHT ONE INCH ROBERT ALDRIDGE ON THE HOMEOWNER WE BOUGHT THE HOME JUNE OF LAST YEAR NOT KNOWING THAT THE SANDBAGS THEY WERE THERE.
WE DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE NOT PERMITTED AND WE APPLIED FOR A HOME OR A REMODEL ON A GARAGE.
THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THE SANDBAGS WERE ILLEGAL AND DEEP COME OUT AND SAID WE HAD TO REMOVE THEM. I REMOVE THEM. THERE WAS ABOUT $16,000 TO REMOVE THEM WHEN I TRIED TO RESEARCH HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE AND NOBODY REALLY WOULD SAY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION IS ANYWHERE FROM 7 TO 14 YEARS AND I SAW A STORM LAST YEAR WE'RE BELOW THE HOLE IN THE SANDBAGS SANDBAGS HADN'T BEEN THERE FOR AS LONG AS THEY WERE.
I'M SURE PROPERTY WOULD BE WAY FURTHER BACK BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY LOST SOME OF WHAT THE AFTER THE DEP LEFT THE HILLSIDES CAVED IN AND THEY'RE STARTING TO AND HE HAD US PUT DOWN EROSION MAPS UNTIL WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO BUT WE HAD HAD ANY KING TIDE SINCE THIS HAS HAPPENED AND WE'VE NOT HAD ANY BAD STORMS YET THE STORM THE OTHER DAY ACTUALLY HAD WAVES SITTING AGAINST THE WALL. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PROTECT OUR PROPERTY. WE SPENT $2.1 MILLION FOR OUR HOME AND WE'RE GOING TO START ANOTHER 100 GRAND AT IT. BUT WITHOUT THE WE NO BACKYARD WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.
SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I CAN GIVE YOU IS TO HAVE D HAD NO OCR YOU COME OUT AND RE FLAG IT SO THEY CAN IDENTIFY YOUR CRITICAL LINES AND MAYBE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD THAT MAYBE IT WOULDN'T BE A NEED FOR YOU GUYS TO COME BACK WOULD DO WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THAT ROAD OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS TO DO WHAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD THE THING IS WITH DHS BECAUSE THEY CAME OUT AND CERTIFIED THE LINE FOR FIVE YEARS SO THAT'S IF THEY COME OUT AND MOVE LINE BACK AND THEN WE GO AT THAT LINE IF THERE'S MORE EROSION THEN THEN WE BUILD BACK TO THAT LINE. OKAY.
THEY JUST SAY NOBODY FLIES. THEY CERTIFY THAT THERE'S NO EROSION AT THE CURRENT LINE.
OKAY. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK TO COME OUT AND FLAG THE LINE AND GO THAT ROUTE. THAT'S THE ROAD. I MEAN I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY PROBABLY THAT OPTION BEFORE THIS BOARD MOVE FORWARD.
BUT IT'S UP TO YOU WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO YOU CAN GRANT THAT WE HOLD THIS OFF UNTIL YOU GO BACK AND DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANY LONGER MEAN I DON'T THINK THE WAY YOU DO IT YOUR CALL YEAH I MEAN WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE LIKE WHAT WOULD YOUR APPROVAL BE WHEN APPROVED THE PROJECT. WELL I DON'T I CAN'T I CAN'T ANSWER THAT ONE PERSON RIGHT NOW I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION WHAT YOUR WHAT YOUR IF WILL CONSEQUENCES IF WE DON'T YOU CAN'T COME BACK YEAH YEAH FOR A YEAR YEAH THEY ASK YOU A QUESTION HAVE YOU GONE ON EARTH AND WENT BACK IN TIME SO YOU COULD SUBSTANTIATE THE EROSION TO THAT THAT THOSE PICTURES ARE ? BUT DID YOU GO BACK LIKE LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE? YEAH. YEAH YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE IT YEAH.
YOU SHOWED AT THE OCR ROOM I MEAN THIS I CAN SEND IT TO OCR AND ALL THEY WANT BUT THEY HAVE TO WE HAVE TO FILE FOR SECURITY CLARITY PERMIT THEY HAVE TO HAVE SURVEYED NOW TO READ LIKE LINE ALL I GUESS BUT THEY'LL DO THAT SO I MEAN THAT'S I MEAN YOU'RE TRYING TO BYPASS THE KNOWN PROCESS WHICH IS TO GET OCR INTO THEY COME OUT AND MARK THE LINE AND THEN THEY WOULD THEY COME OUT THROUGH THE MITIGATION TO TAKE THE SANDBAGS OUT THEN THEY SAID THAT LINE STILL VALID. SO SO WAIT A MINUTE THEY SIGNED THIS ON THE FIRST YEAH THIS
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PART WAS DONE LAST YEAR SO THEY'RE SAYING THAT ON THE FIRST THEY CAME OUT WHEN DID THEY COME OUT LIKE IT'S PROBABLY BEFORE THE FIRST. OKAY SO LAST YEAR WHEN THE PROJECTS WAS WELL THEY COME OUT THEY SURVEY CALLS THEM WHEN THEY WANT TO DO A CRITICAL LINE TO MARK THE SURVEY MARK THE CRITICAL RIGHT AND THEN FIRST THEN THE SURVEY THE SURVEY GOES THAT'S RIGHT. SO WHEN DID THEY GO OUT AND DO IT? I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY BEFORE JANUARY I NAME ON THE 16TH RIGHT RIGHT AFTER THE SURVEY DONE. YEAH BUT THE SURVEY WAS DONE LAST YEAR.RIGHT THE THE SURVEY WAS SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2024 WHICH IS A YEAR AGO.
SO IT'S BUT WE'VE BEEN WAITING THE LAST SIX MONTHS ON APPROVALS AND YOU KNOW, THE LINE MOVES IN TIME YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY SO WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE OCEAN COME OUT AND REFINE THE LINE AND SEE IF THE LINES DOWN. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PROCESS IS. YEAH AND I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT DO BUT IF IT WAS ME THAT'S THE OPTIONS I WOULD TAKE AND OKAY SO YOU CAN REQUEST WE MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THE TIMES THAT THEY THEY DID WHAT THEY DID.
OH YEAH. WHICH DOESN'T REALLY FIT. YEAH YOU KNOW IF THEY DID THAT FAR BACK THAT'S WHERE THE SURVEY WAS DONE IN SEPTEMBER. THEY MARCH THE LINE PROBABLY AT LEAST A MONTH THAT WHICH IS GETTING CLOSE TO A YEAR AGO. RIGHT.
SO I KNOW THAT ARGUMENT WITH THEM FOR THEM TO COME OUT AGAIN OKAY, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DO WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO DO? I GUESS WE'LL CONTACT YOU BUT I'M FINE.
LINE UP. OKAY. SO WE JUST THE FURTHEST UNTIL SUCH ONCE YOU GET THOSE INFORMATION. THANK YOU SIR.
REALLY NEED EMOTIONS. I DON'T THINK YOU NEED MOTION FOR THAT.
WE IT WAS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM NO PUBLIC COMMENTS SO WE
[8. Phillips Land Management Company, LLC is requesting a Variance to construct a Pool in the 50-foot River Buffer. The property is located at 34 Myrtle Island Lane, Bluffton. The property is zoned T2-Rural Neighborhood (T2RN).]
CLOSE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT PHILLIPS LAND MANAGEMENT COMPANY LLC IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FOR TO CONSTRUCT THE POOL THE 50 FOOT BUFFER COME FORWARD PLEASE GOOD EVENING I'M GRAVES THE GRAVES CONSTRUCTION FROM TROY I THINK THE NARRATIVE PRETTY WELL SAYS EVERYTHING BUT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS THAT PLOT THE PLANT WAS PLATTED IN 1926 ON THIS PROPERTY ON I BUILT THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THERE IN 2,001ST 25 YEARS OLD SO WE WERE TASKED THE NEWER OWNERS TO DO SOME REMODELING AND EXPLORE POOL SITUATION.IN 2000 THE ONLY SETBACK WAS A 50 FOOT SETBACK OFF OF THE RIVER FOR BUILDING THE HOUSE SITS ABOUT 6065 FEET OFF THAT LINE. THE BUFFER DID NOT EXIST MY KNOWLEDGE IN 2000 IT CURRENTLY THEN SO THIS POOL BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS THE YARD WHICH IS GRASSED AS WELL AS SHRUBS AND THINGS ALONG THE EDGE OF THE IS WE'VE MINIMIZED IT TO WHERE IT IS NOW AND DRAWINGS YOU HAVE WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE OF SIX FEET INTO THE 50 FOOT SETBACK OR BUFFER AND WE HAVE REMOVED THE CONCRETE SIDEWALL THIS THEY'RE GOING DOWN TO THE EXISTING DOG AND WE FEEL IT'S A MINIMAL ENCROACHMENT TO HAVE A USABLE POOL BECAUSE OF THAT IT'S A TWO STOREY HOUSE AND BECAUSE OF THE ANGLE OF REPOSE WITH THE FOOTINGS THE HOUSE WE JUST CAN'T GETTING CLOSER THAN THE SEVEN FEET TO THE HOUSE SO WE'RE PINCHED IN TWO DIRECTIONS. THE LOT IS VERY DEEP BUT IT'S FULL OF SPECIMEN LIVE OAKS REALLY THE ONLY CLEARING THAT I SEE YOU COULD PUT IT WOULD BE MYRTLE ISLAND LANE AS YOU FIRST COME INTO THE PROPERTY AND I JUST NOT GOING TO WORK OUT BUT THE COUPLE THAT OWN THE HOUSE DO HAVE HEALTH ISSUES WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO LOW IMPACT AEROBICS, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE FARM OF THE LOT GOES FROM THE BIKE TO THE ROAD.
THE ROAD, THE INTRICACIES AT THE LOWEST POINT. SO ALL THE DRAINAGE NATURALLY TO THE MYRTLE ISLAND LIKE SO WE DON'T GET ANY RUNOFF INTO THE RIVER.
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WE'RE WILLING TO IMPROVE MOVE ANY OF THE SHRUBBERY OR WHATEVER IF THAT HELPS THE LANDSCAPING TO IMPROVE TAKE SOME OF THE GRASS OUT OR WHATEVER IT'S THERE ANY QUESTIONS SORT THE APPLICATION I'M LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT FOOTPRINTS HERE OF THIS POOL THAT YOU PRESENTED. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ONE. I SAID THE ONE THAT WE ENCOURAGE ALL THAT IS THIS SOURCE TO BUILD OUTSIDE OF THE FOOTPRINT YES SHE'S CORRECT JUST PUSH UP AGAINST THE FOUNDATION I WOULD LIKE TO DO I HAVE A HARD TIME HAVING A POOL AS A HARDSHIP POINT I THINK THAT THE POOL WAS APPROVED OUTSIDE OF THE 50 RIGHT.BUT YOU HAVE TO SHOW A HARDSHIP THAT IT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE THE YEAH BUFFER YEAH AND I MEAN THE HAD THE LOTS USABLE FOR A HOUSE AND DON'T SEE YOU HAVING A POOL THAT YOU HAVE TO GO INTO BUFFER ZONE IS A HARDSHIP I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT OF COURSE PROOF BUT THE PHYSICS THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING OF THE HOME WON'T ALLOW POOL TO BUILD. THEY NEED SIX FEET OR ELSE THE HOUSE WILL IN ON ITSELF.
RIGHT. BUT I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S A HARDSHIP BECAUSE HAVING A POOL IS NOT NECESSARY FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TO BE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WELL, WE CAN'T MOVE THE HOUSE RIGHT BUT YOU DON'T TO HAVE A POOL I MEAN THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE PROPERTY UNUSABLE. THE DOCTOR HAS PRESCRIBED THERE'S POOLED ALL OVER COUNTY I THINK THEY COULD FIND A POOL I MEAN I DON'T THAT THERE'S A HARDSHIP AND WE HAVE TO VOTE WHEN THERE'S A HARDSHIP TO GO INTO THE BUFFER ZONE WELL I RESPECT YOUR OPINION IT'S JUST THAT IT IS A HARDSHIP WHEN YOU'RE STUCK BETWEEN TWO ROCKS AND WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME FLEXIBLE YOU KNOW IF YOU SAY HEY YOU CAN'T DO A 12 FOOT WIDE POOL, IT CAN ONLY BE TEN THEN I'LL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK TO THE OWNERS AND TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT TO MINIMIZE WELL LET ME HAVE SOMETHING. SORRY YOU SAY YOU CAN'T MOVE THE POOL CLOSE TO THE HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY, CORRECT? THERE'S A SCREEN PORCH THERE, RIGHT? THERE'S TWO STORY SCREEN PORCH. RIGHT.
BUT IS THAT ATTACHED THE HOUSE IS THAT PART OF HOUSE BUILT WITH IT? SO IF YOU GET UP TO THAT THAT WON'T AFFECT THE HOUSE THOUGH ALL OF THAT IT'S IF THAT IF THE PORCH GOES DOWN COLLAPSES COULD POSSIBLY COME DOWN THE ENGINEER LETTER THAT'S PART OF YOUR PACKAGE BUT IT'S NOT A WEIGHT BEARING THAT'S. OH YEAH.
OFF OF THE HOUSE OFF OF THE HOUSE ITSELF I IF THEY FOUND THAT HOUSE WE THAT THE ROOF WATER SIDE EDGE OF OF THE PORCH THAT'S WHERE THE FOUNDATION IS SO WHAT OTHER OPTIONS HAVE YOU EXPLORED? WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER PLACES ON THE PROPERTY IT JUST IT'S THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE TO PUT IT. I MEAN I DON'T THINK YOU ALWAYS WOULD BE I DON'T THINK YOU'D BE WITH OAK SLAB OAKS BEING PULLED OUT FOR FOR A POOL.
AND DID YOU SAY THIS THE WHIFF OF THIS IS 12 FEET BUT I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE HARDSHIP WHEN WE GIVE PERMISSION OR GIVE A VARIANCE TO GO INTO THE BUFFERS IT'S TYPICALLY WHEN THE LOT IS VERY SMALL AND IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO PUT A HOUSE ON IT IS TO GET INTO THE BUFFERS WE HAVE NEVER THAT I CAN RECALL GIVEN A VARIANCE FOR A SWIMMING POOL BECAUSE A SWIMMING DOES NOT MAKE THE LOT UNUSABLE AND THE LOT IS USABLE BECAUSE THERE'S A HOUSE I.
GUESS THE ONLY WAY I CAN RESPOND TO THAT IS IN HINDSIGHT HAD WE KNOWN IN 2000 THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A BUFFER THERE THAT WOULD POOL WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN INSTEAD THE SIX THEY WOULD HAVE GONE TO 70 FEET OFF OF THE BANK. THE HOUSE WAS NOT PUSHED TO THE 54 BUILDING SITE BACK LINE WHICH IS WHAT ROUND SINCE 1995. SO I DON'T HOW NO ONE WELL IT JUST WASN'T ON OUR SURVEY SO THE BUILDING SETBACK LINES THE ONLY THING THAT SHOWS AND I BROUGHT THAT WITH US AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE I MEAN THE HARDSHIP HERE IS DOES
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FALL ON WHETHER THIS SLIDE IS RENDERED BUILDABLE OR ON BUILDABLE.MM POOL IT'S ALMOST LIKE AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE HOUSE AND THAT IS NOT YOU KNOW IN MY OPINION OR IN THE CDC A HARDSHIP AS FAR AS YOU KNOW HAVING A STRUCTURE, A HOUSE BEING BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY I GUESS YOU MAKE A VALID POINT THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF COURSE IN THE COUNTY THAT THESE PEOPLE COULD USE. THEY ALSO HAVE A PERFECTLY GOOD HOME WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN THEM IN THE FUTURE THAT MAY RENDER THEM UNABLE TO GET TO A COUNTY POOL WHETHER NOT IT IS AVAILABLE.
SO IF THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A MEDICAL ISSUE THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT THAT REQUIRES LOW IMPACT AEROBICS WHO WOULD LOVE TO TO THE RIVER? THE TIDE IS RUNNING AT 13 TO 14 KNOTS DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY THAT'S JUST NOT SAFE SO I THINK I THINK IT'S MORE SO A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE THAT MAY BECOME AN ISSUE FOR THEM DUE TO THEIR AGE AND DO THEIR CURRENT MEDICAL CONDITION THAT THAT I HEAR YOUR ARGUMENT BUT IF THEY'RE IN THAT CONDITION DO THEY NEED A 12 FOOTBALL WHY CAN'T THEY HAVE A TEN FOOT MAKE IT REAL CHARLOTTE WELL YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. WELL, I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT SOME POINT A POOL WHEN IT GETS SO NEAR IT'S BE YOU KNOW, YOUR SHOULDERS RUB THE SIDES. WELL WHAT ABOUT THE SEE THERE'S A LOT OF BUT THE AREA WITH THE WOOD DECK BETWEEN THE UP ON THE YEAH THAT'S THE HAVE TO PICK IT OUT RIGHT RIGHT UP HERE THAT'S ALL THE MONEY IS GOING TO GET RID OF ALL IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IN AND AROUND THE HOUSE AND I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT OFF THE CORNER OF THE CORNER WHAT IT IS THERE ANY ROOM WE STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT SEVEN FEET ANGLE OF REPOSE.
OKAY I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO STAY RIGHT UP AGAINST THE I DIDN'T BRING IT SCALE BUT LET ME MAKE ONE REAL QUICK LOOK WITH THAT SAME WIDTH POOL WE WOULD BE DOWN TO LET'S HALF OF THE ENCROACHMENT WITHOUT A REDUCTION IN THE WIDTH PROBABLY THAT WOULD BE A NINE FOOT WIDE POOL AT THAT POINT IF YOU GOT TO THE 50 FOOT LINE I START AT 12 BECAUSE I WOULD LOOK AT THE ONE THAT WE APPROVED AND SIZE OF THE YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT THREE ALL RIGHT GO AND STILL HAVE SOMEBODY MAKING MAYBE MORE NARROW AND YOU STILL HAVE SOME AREA BETWEEN WHICH YEAH BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ADEQUATE BASED ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE HOUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ENGINEERS TELL US AND WE RUN INTO THIS ALL THE TIME WITH TWO STOREY HOUSE 300 AND SOMETHING FEET OH NOT THAT YOU CAN BUILD A POOL I MEAN THIS IS YEAH I CAN SEE THE LOT WAS JUST THIS BIG BUT YOU KNOW THEN YEAH BUT YOU HAVE THREE THIS FLAT IS THREE SEVEN YOU KNOW 300 SOME FOOT DEEP THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH AREA TO BUILD A POOL IN THE FRONT.
MM. SO I, I DON'T SEE THE HARSH ONE I THOUGHT YOU WAS THE COUNTY'S TURN TO TALK. YEAH, THAT'S JUST EXACTLY WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS POINT? NO.
YOU KNOW IF WE CAN MINIMIZE THE IMPACT THERE'S NO WAY TO REINFORCE THE POOL SO THAT IT DOESN'T IT'S A MATTER OF DISTURBING THE LAND ADJACENT TO THE HOUSE YOU GOT TO DIG A
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HOLE IN THAT ABSCESS ABSOLUTE AREA OF DIRT. I MEAN HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT DOING A ABOVEGROUND POOL THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE SCREEN PORCH ABOVE GROUND POOL THAT GOING TO BE IN THE 50 FOOT SETBACK? NOT IF YOU I'M NOT GOING TO SAY I'M NOT HERE TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS. JUST CHARMIN WHETHER IT'S WORTH A VARIANCE OR NOT.OKAY, SO IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU LIKE TO SAY I DON'T LIKE? SO AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK THEY KIND OF HAVE SPOKEN.
HILLARY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THINK THERE'S JUST NO PERMISSION FOR THIS REQUEST? THIS IS I THINK ENOUGH FOR THEM TO GET A ALL RIGHT.
WELL, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT I KNOW THAT WE DID RECEIVE A CORRESPONDENT FOR THIS ITEM AS WELL. SO THAT'S IN THE RECORD.
THAT BEING SAID, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION I MOVE THAT WE DENY THE APPLICATION FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE OUR GUIDELINES SAY THAT HARDSHIP HAS TO BE PROVEN AND THERE IS NOT A HARDSHIP THAT'S PROVEN FOR THIS VARIANCE. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THIS APPLICATION . CAN I GET A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. SO IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM ANY SECOND ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL PLEASE SIGNIFY RAISE YOUR HANDS SO EVERYONE ELSE AGREED TO DO THAT NO THIS APPLICATIONS WE'RE
[10. Kevin Mack is requesting a Special Use Permit for Lodging, Short- Term Rental. The property is located at 1159 Seaside Road, St. Helena Island. The property is zoned T2-Rural (T2R).]
GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TEN. I'M GOING TO RECUSE AT THIS POINT AND THE CO-CHAIR WILL LEAD YOU GUYS INTO THE REMAINING OF THIS MEETING AND SINCE I AM VICE CHAIR I WILL TAKE OVER. THANK YOU KEVIN IF YOU WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME IF YOU'LL JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL YOU TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. GOOD MORNING. GOOD EVENING.THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS I'M KEVIN MACK JR I AM ACCOMPANIED BY MY SISTER NAOMI AT THIS TIME I LIST YOU FOR THE LOCATION MY NAME IS IN YOUR MAC AND WE'RE JUST REQUESTING THE USE OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OBTAIN AN AIRBNB ON PROPERTY THAT WE YOUR OWN SORRY LIKE HE DID SAY MY NAME IS DANIEL MAC AND THIS EVENING WE'RE JUST REQUESTING USE OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO OBTAIN AN AIRBNB ON PROPERTY THAT WE'VE HAD OWNED DECADES. WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST USE THIS PROPERTY TO HELP US OBTAIN FOR FINANCIAL FOR INCOME FOR SCHOOL.
THIS WILL HELP US OBTAIN AN INCOME AS MY BROTHER AND I GO THROUGH COLLEGE THROUGH OUR COLLEGE AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO REQUEST FOR THE USE OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SO WILL BE MANAGING THE PROPERTY FAMILY WE DO HAVE FAMILY HERE AS WELL AND FAMILY WILL TAKE OVER AND MANAGE A PROPERTY WHILE WE ARE AT SCHOOL HAVE YOU HAD YOU TURNED IN THAT YOU'VE HAD THOSE THE SEWER CHECKED IN. YES MA'AM WE HAVE OUR APARTMENT ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD.
IT'S NOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COUNTY AND IF THAT'S OKAY DO I HEAR EMOTION? OH WAIT IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WHAT WE ALWAYS FORGET, RIGHT? NO COMMENT. WE APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR RENTAL.
I'LL SECOND IT ALL IN FAVOR. THANK YOU. HOPE IT GOES WELL FOR YOU AND GOOD LUCK IN COLLEGE OUT. OH YEAH I'M I'M SORRY I DON'T I'M LIKE OH YEAH IS THERE ANY OTHER OLD BUSINESS ANY NEW BUSINESS DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE WE ADJOURN ALL I
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.