Jul 14, 2025 County Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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. WE ARE READY. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND AN INVOCATION BY COUNCILMAN TOM RITZ TO PUT THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. IT'S BEEN A VERY HARD NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND FREEDOM FOR ALL. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. THANK ALL FOR BEING HERE.

HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE TOGETHER HERE THIS EVENING.

TO WORK TOGETHER THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. IT IS OUR PRAYER.

IT IS OUR HOPE THAT WE DO IT. IN GLORIFYING YOUR HOLY SON JESUS CHRIST IN HIS NAME.

AMEN. I MEAN AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

ALL IN OF APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. SHOW OF HANDS AND THAT IS APPROVED. THIS MEETING WAS ADVERTISED AND PRESENT AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FREEDOM OF SOUTH CAROLINA. FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT CORRECT AND PUBLISHED.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - June 23, 2025 Caucus and County Council Minutes, and June 26, 2025 County Council Workshop Minutes]

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 23, 2025 AND JUNE 26TH 2025.

WE HAVE A SECOND. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR BY MY SHOW OF HANDS AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS AND MR. DAWSON. OUR NEXT ITEM IS OUR

[6. ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT]

MS.. RIANNA REE WASHINGTON AND HER POSITION TITLE IS ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST AND YOU'VE BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR 18 MONTHS.

SINCE MAY 28TH LAST YEAR. SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE ME A COUPLE OF MONTHS ON ME SO IT'S GOOD SUMMARY OF HER DUTIES HANDLES THE FRONT DESK AT THE BUCKWALTER RECREATION CENTER AND SUPPORTS OTHER CENTERS AS NEEDED. AS A VALUED MEMBER OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM SHE DELIVERS EXCELLENT CUSTOMER SERVICE BY RESPONDING INQUIRIES ABOUT PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS, PROCESSES, MEMBERSHIPS AND CHECKS AND PATRONS. THROUGHOUT HER DUTIES SHE CONSISTENTLY OPPOSED POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF BOTH PATRONS AND STAFF.

SOMETHING YOU NEED TO SHARE. SHE COULD PLAY THE TENOR AND ALTO SAXOPHONE WHICH I PLAYED FOR MANY MANY YEARS AGO. BUT I'M SURE YOU'RE GREAT AT IT.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'D BE SCARY. SO ANYWAY, JUST RECOGNIZE YOU AND IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. UM IF YOU DON'T, THAT'S OKAY.

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY. OKAY. THIS WAS A SHOT AS YOU COULD SEE. BUT I APPRECIATE BEING RECOGNIZED AND THANK YOU.

WELCOME. OKAY. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE ARE SOME RETIREES. FIRST UP I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MISS MARIE SMALLS BEEN THE DIRECTOR OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY BOARD OF VOTER REGISTRATION ELECTIONS.

RETIRING? YEAH. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS AND THEN I'M GOING TO WELCOME MR. SWEENEY WHO'S THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION TO COME UP. BUT WE'D LIKE TO EXTEND OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR WELL-DESERVED RETIREMENT AFTER

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SHE BEGAN HER CAREER IN OCTOBER OF 1982. SHE BEGAN WORKING IN EMPLOYEE SERVICES WHICH IS KNOWN AS HUMAN RESOURCES AS A PERSONNEL SPECIALIST AND MOVED HER WAY UP TO DIRECTOR IN 1990. SHE THEN RETIRED UNDER THE TERRY TERRY PROGRAM IN SEPTEMBER OF 2004 AND THEN I DON'T YOU COULD DECIDE SO AFTER A YEAR YOU DECIDE TO COME BACK AND SHE CAME BACK IN 2005 AS AN ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR REGISTRAR WITH THE BOARD OF VOTER REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY AND AUGUST OF 2012 BECAME THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT. AS WE MARK THIS INCREDIBLE MILESTONE WE WISH.

WE WANT TO WISH MISS SMALLS THE BEST IN HER NEW CHAPTER. MAY YOUR RETIREMENT BE FILLED WITH JOY, RELAXATION AND SPENDING MORE TIME WITH YOUR LOVED.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR UNWAVERING DEDICATION AND YEARS OF SERVICE WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY. YOU'LL MOST DEFINITELY BE MISSED.

SO WE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU HERE WHERE YOU MR. ADMINISTRATOR AND COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT'S A PLEASURE TO SAY A FEW WORDS TO ACCOMPANY THE APPROPRIATE AND DESERVED RECOGNITION OF MAURICE SMALLS. MY NAME IS MATT SWEENEY.

I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF VOTER REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY.

SERVICE TO RESIDENTS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY ACTUALLY STARTED 50 YEARS AGO WHEN AS A JUNIOR SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL SHE ACTUALLY DROVE A COUNTY SCHOOL BUS FOR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS. HER SERVICE HAD SEVERAL STOPS ALONG THE WAY.

MOST RECENTLY AS DIRECTOR OF THE BOARD OF VOTER AND ELECTIONS DURING MARIE'S 20 PLUS YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE BOARD SHE OVERSAW TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.

THE COUNTS OF BOTH VOTING PRECINCTS AND VOTERS NEARLY DOUBLED TO 134 PRECINCTS AND MORE THAN 140,000 VOTERS TODAY AND AT THE LAST ELECTION SHE AND HER TEAM MANAGED MORE 800 CITIES POLL WORKERS. THAT'S NO SMALL TASK SINCE MOST OF THOSE FELLOW RESIDENTS WORK ELECTIONS DAY A YEAR AND MUST DO SO WITH PERFECTION. MARIE SERVICE TO VOTERS WAS RECOGNIZED BOTH WITHIN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NATIONALLY UNDER LEADERSHIP.

OUR VOTER REGISTRATION AND ELECTIONS OFFICE RECEIVED ONE BUT THREE EXCELLENCE IN ELECTIONS AWARDS FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA ASSOCIATION OF REGISTRATION AND ELECTION OFFICIALS. MARIE ALSO WAS AWARDED BY THE ASSOCIA THE MOORE AWARD WHICH IS THE THE HIGHEST LEVEL AWARD THAT THEY PROVIDE. AND MARIE SERVICE WAS VALUED NATIONALLY AS WELL. SHE HAS SERVED AS ONE OF 100 MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION, LOCAL LEADERSHIP COUNCIL AS MARIE TRANSITIONS TO SERVING HER COMMUNITY IN RETIREMENT. SHE WILL LEAVE BEHIND A GREAT LEGACY OF HARD WORK TO SERVICE AND A CULTURE OF INTEGRITY FOR ELECTIONS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE BOARD A VOTER REGISTRATIONS AND ELECTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MARIE SMALLS, HER LONG AND DEDICATED LEGACY OF SERVICE AND WISH HER THE BEST IN HER NEXT PHASE.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL RIDE 43 YEARS PLUS AND OF OUR SUCCESS WOULD NOT BE A SUCCESS WITHOUT . THE PEOPLE OF BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNTY COUNCIL. YOU GUYS PLAYED A WONDERFUL ROLE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO BUDGET. I WOULD LIKE TO MY BOARD FOR THE SUPPORT OVER THESE YEARS. THEY'VE BEEN GREAT. I KNOW SOMETIMES THEY DIDN'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND WE WERE DOING AND WHY WE WERE DOING IT BUT THEY ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE EFFORT AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK MY FAMILY, MY HUSBAND BEEN MY BIGGEST FAN AND MY GREATEST SUPPORTER AND CHILDREN THEY ALL IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY. THAT'S MY HUSBAND AND MY GROUP AND MY CHURCH FAMILY.

THEY ARE HERE AS WELL SUPPORTING ME AND I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THEM AND I LOVE THEM DEARLY. LIKE MR. SWEENEY SAID, I KNOW

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AND THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. AND THE GREATEST STAFF IN THE WHOLE THE WHOLE UNITED STATES.

WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU AS WELL. OH YES.

YOUR FAMILY GOING TO BE IN THE PICTURE AND BEING YES, THEY ALL CAN UP.

LET'S GO. THAT'S AWESOME. AND I STILL YEAH OH YEAH YEAH MY WIFE DID 41 WITH A COMMENT THEY'RE COMING YEAH THIS IS TWO OF MY 12 REASONS OH MY GRANDCHILDREN YOU KNOW THE FUTURE I'M I'M IMPACT YOU KNOW I'M AFRAID TO.

MADAM CHAIR CAN I TAKE A MOMENT I'M SURE OF PRIVILEGE I WANT TO COMMEND MRS. SMALLS FOR HER TIME ON VOTER REGISTRATION AS A DIRECTOR KNOW THAT THERE WERE TIMES WHEN PRECINCTS GOT DIVIDED, PEOPLE WERE MAKING ALL KINDS OF ACQUISITIONS ABOUT THE VOTER REGISTRATION, COULDN'T GET THINGS RIGHT AND STUFF AND I KNOW SHE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE PUBLIC BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD ONES WHERE SHE WAS UNPROFESSIONAL. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY ANY OTHER ACCOUNT LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT? SURE. HUGE VOID. WE'RE REALLY GOING TO MISS YOU AND DID WHAT MR. GLOVER HERE SAID TOO AS WELL. IT'S JUST I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF MATT HAS SOMEBODY IN MIND OR NOT BUT YEAH, GOOD LUCK IN YOUR RETIREMENT, JOE. ANY OTHER MEMBERS? COUNCILMAN GLOVER I DON'T SEE ON BUT I WITH COUNCILMAN GLOVER IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT AND SHE ALWAYS DEALT WITH THE PUBLIC IN A VERY PROFESSIONAL MANNER.

YEAH. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE'RE GOOD.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE MY PLEASURE TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF RETIRING FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO FIRST WE HAVE STAFF SERGEANT CHELSEA SOROKA. IF YOU GOT A FEW THINGS GO FROM .

SO STAFF SERGEANT CHELSEA STRAKA IS BARKING IMPRESSIVE 26 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY. 20 OF THOSE WERE PROBABLY SPENT WITH THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. HER PUBLIC SERVICE JOURNEY BEGAN AT THE OTTER'S OFFICE. SHE JOINED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS AN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER BACK THE ROLE WAS PART OF THE AGENCY. AS A LITTLE WHILE A LITTLE WHILE. SO SHE'S CHANGED SINCE THEN. BUT WE APPRECIATE THAT OVER THE YEARS SHE'S WORN MANY HATS SERVING AS A COMMUNITY RESOURCES OFFICER, SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER INVESTIGATOR MOST RECENTLY AS THE AGENCY'S RECRUITING AND STAFFING OFFICER WITHIN ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISION. NO MATTER WHAT ROLE A STAFF SERGEANT SCHROCK HAS ALWAYS FOCUSED ON MAKING A DIFFERENCE SAYING THE MOST REWARDING PART OF HER CAREER HAS BEEN SERVING IN THE COMMUNITY EDUCATING AND HELPING OTHERS ESPECIALLY IN HER CURRENT ROLE WHERE SHE HELPS IDENTIFY AND RECRUIT RECRUIT INDIVIDUALS TO SERVE ALONGSIDE THE AGENCY'S MEN AND WOMEN HELPING APPLICANTS ACHIEVE THEIR DREAM OF BECOMING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WATCHING THEM GROW AND SUCCEED IS INCREDIBLY FULFILLING FOR HER. SHE'S ALSO PAVED THE WAY FOR OTHERS SERVING AS ONE OF THE AGENCY'S FIRST TACTICAL FLIGHT OFFICERS AND THE ONLY FEMALE TO TO SERVE ON THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE DOVE TEAM. SHE HAS FURTHER CONTRIBUTED AS AN ADVISOR FOR THE EXPLORERS PROGRAM AND A MEMBER OF THE AGENCY'S HONOR GUARD OUTSIDE OF WORK. SHE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THE OUTDOORS ENJOYING CAMPING, PADDLEBOARDING, SWIMMING, BIKING AND GARDENING. IT'S ALSO AN AVID READER AND MOST OF ALL HER FAMILY AND ESPECIALLY HER AS HER ROLE AS MOTHER AND A GRANDMOTHER.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL HAVE A LOT MORE TIME FOR THAT. SO THAT'S EXCITING.

SO THANK YOU. WE A PART FOR YOU AS I ACTUALLY HAD NOT EXPECTED TO BE ASKED

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THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE STAFF SERGEANT DENHAM FROM THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THANKS.

SO A FEW COMMENTS ON STAFF SERGEANT KAREN DENHAM. KAREN DENHAM DEDICATED 28 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. MOST RECENTLY IS A VALUABLE MEMBER OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE DIVISION. SHE SERVED AS A SUPERVISOR IN THE CIVIL PROCESS AND WARRANTS UNIT ALSO SERVED AS THE JUDGMENTS AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR THE MAJORITY OF HER LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER.

STAFF SERGEANT DENHAM SERVED AS A PATROL DEPUTY SUPERVISING ENFORCEMENT TEAMS BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD. THROUGHOUT HER CAREER SHE EMBRACED VARIETY OF CHALLENGES THAT CAME WITH THE ROLE BUT SAYS THE MOST REWARDING WORK INVOLVED THE PROJECT LIFESAVER PROGRAM BEING ABLE TO REUNITE A LOST FAMILY MEMBER WITH LOVED ONES USING PROJECT LIFESAVER IS REWARDING. ORIGINALLY FROM ELKINS, WEST VIRGINIA STAFF SERGEANT DENHAM SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMY RESERVE AS A95 BE MILITARY PATROL OR POLICE OFFICER.

WHILE ATTENDING COLLEGE SHE MET A DETECTIVE FROM THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE SHARED THEY HAD A SHARED ENTHUSIASM FOR THE AGENCY AND COMMUNITY. SHE APPLIED AND BEGAN WHAT HAS BECOME A LONG AND IMPACTFUL ENFORCEMENT CAREER. NOTABLY IN 2004 SHE BECAME THE AGENCY'S FEMALE CERTIFIED MOTOR OFFICER. OUTSIDE WORK SHE ENJOYS RIDING A MOTORCYCLE, CAMPING AND HIKING. HER COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENT EARNED PRAISE FROM A LOCAL ATTORNEY WHO CREDITS WITH GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP HIS CLIENT COLLECT A LONG STANDING JUDGMENT IN ALL MY YEARS OF PRACTICING LAW.

THE ATTORNEY WROTE I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN EFFORT TO ASSIST IN THE COLLECTION OF A JUDGMENT. SHE SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR HER DILIGENT SERVICE.

STAFF SERGEANT DENHAM IS AN EXAMPLE OF PROFESSIONALISM AND PUBLIC SERVICE AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. FIVE YEAR COMMENTS ON THAT TWEET I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU. AN HONOR. I'M OUT OF SCHOOL.

IT'S WORD IS CHELSEA SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

OKAY. AND UM, WRAPPING THIS UP I JUST WANT TO MENTION WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS HERE FROM THE MARINE CORPS AIR STATION BEAUFORT TEAM AT THIS HOUR AND I HAD THE PLEASURE LAST FRIDAY TO GO TO THE ASSUMPTION COMMAND CEREMONY FOR COLONEL TREVOR FELTER.

SO WE CONGRATULATE THE TEAM, HIS FAMILY AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM IN THE FUTURE.

AND WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS PENDING ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.

[7. CITIZEN COMMENTS PERIOD – 30 MINUTES TOTAL]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RIGHT AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR CITIZENS COMMENTS.

I'D LIKE TO MENTION WHAT WE NORMALLY ANNOUNCE. EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO IS RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK SHALL LIMIT COMMENTS TO 3 MINUTES AND OBSERVE THE FOLLOWING PROTOCOL ADDRESS THE CHAIRMAN AND IN SPEAKING AVOID DISRESPECT COUNCIL IN ANY PERSONALITIES CONFINE THEMSELVES QUESTIONS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF COUNTY COUNCIL MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT AND OTHERS WHO MAY BE WATCHING ON TELEVISION.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAD TWO THAT WE HAD ONE PERSON ADDED IN NIKKI NIKKI MAY YOU ARE ON THE LIST NOW.

OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT SO WE WILL IN THE ORDER IN WHICH PEOPLE SHARE I BELIEVE I SAW SOME OF THEIR HAND UP OUT THERE OH SOMEONE HAVE THEIR HAND UP TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. MIKE, MIKE, MIKE IT'S UP HERE. IT'S UP HERE.

THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S RIGHT HERE. HELLO, MIKE.

YOU GO, BUDDY. HERE YOU GO. HEY, YOU SAW SOMETHING ALL

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THE FIRST PERSON IS ROBERT NEW AND THE SECOND PERSON IS MARCIE .

RIGHT? MARCIE BY OUR ARM. OKAY.

AND MARCIE JUST LINE UP. SO AFTER ROBERT'S DONE IT, LET'S WAIT A MINUTE.

WOW. THIS IS SIGNING IN ON THE LAWYERS WRITING HIS COMMENTS.

YES. ALL WE NEED IS YOUR NAME AND YOUR SUBJECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THE OTHER IS ALL OPTIONAL.

OKAY. CAN WE START THE TIMER, MS.. BROAD? OKAY, MR. GNU, IF YOU WILL GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THIS DIFFICULT JOB. NOTWITHSTANDING THE LEGAL SHENANIGAN INS AND THE REALLY EXPENSIVE PR AND LOBBYING EFFORTS, ONE UNDENIABLE FACT CANNOT BE IN DISPUTE THE APPROVAL THAT ANY GOLF RESORT ON ST HELENA WHICH WILL BE THE DE FACTO DEMISE OF THE CPO WILL WIPE OUT THE SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE OF THE GOLD POPULATION ON HELENA THAT HAS EXISTED FOR MORE THAN SIX GENERATIONS AN EXAGGERATION SADLY NO.

IT IS AN UNDISPUTED FACT. SPANNING MORE THAN A HALF CENTURY OF THE GOLDEN EXPERIENCE ON SEA ISLANDS FROM CAPE FEAR, NORTH CAROLINA TO JUST NORTH OF JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, THE GOAL POPULATION WAS SIGNIFICANT ON DOZENS OF THE SEA ISLANDS INCLUDING IN SOUTH CAROLINA. KIAWAH, JOHN'S ISLAND AND EDISTO.

YOU ALL KNOW THE STORY. THE SEA ISLANDS WERE DISCOVERED GATED AND RESORT COMMUNITIES EVERYWHERE. IN SHORT ORDER THE GOAL POPULATIONS EITHER DISAPPEARED OR WERE SUBSTANTIALLY DIMINISHED. IT DID NOT TAKE LONG.

SO HOW DO ONE ISLAND JUST ONE ISLAND KEEP THE CULTURE, THE HISTORY AND THE COMMUNITY ALIVE ? THE CPO A VISIONARY COLLABORATION OF COMMUNITY AND COUNTY COUNCIL ENSHRINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND BY ORDINANCE GENIUS REALLY.

NOW DEVELOPER AND THOSE TO COME WILL PITCH THAT THEY ARE HERE TO HELP THE GULLAH PEOPLE DON'T FALL FOR THAT FALLACIOUS ARGUMENT THAT THE OFFER REALLY BRIBES FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT IT IS A FACT A HARD FACT AND INDISPUTABLE FACT THAT THIS WOULD BE THE DEATH KNELL FOR THE GOAL OF PEOPLE ON SAINT HELENA ISLAND. IT'S NOT AN EXAGGERATION BACKED BY THE TRAGIC HISTORY OF THE LAST 50 YEARS OF DOZENS OF CALLED COMMUNITIES ON SEA ISLANDS. IT IS DISINGENUOUS IN EVERY WAY TO TELL THE PEOPLE THAT THIS IS THEIR BENEFIT. IT IS SOLELY FOR THE DEVELOPER'S BENEFIT.

IT IS STRICTLY A QUID PRO QUO. THE DEVELOPERS JUST LOVE THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

LET US LEARN FROM THIS IRREFUTABLE LESSONS THAT HISTORY TEACHES.

THIS WILL BE A LEGACY VOTE A CONSEQUENTIAL VOTE NOT ONLY FOR SAINT HELENA BUT FOR ALL BEAUFORT COUNTY. IT GOES TO THE HEART OF WHO WE ARE AS CITIZENS NEIGHBORS AND STEWARDS OF OUR RICH HISTORY AND CULTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR STEADFAST SUPPORT IN UPHOLDING THE CPO AND SAVING THIS TREASURED ISLAND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT IS MARKET FOR POWER TO PRONOUNCE IT PLEASE MARK MURKY FINAL POWER. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BY APOLOGIZING TO THE COUNCIL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING WITH YOUR PERSONAL CONTACT INFORMATION BEING GIVEN OUT ON FLIERS THAT WE WERE ADVERTISING. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THAT YOUR SAFETY IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE CARE ABOUT AS PARTNERS FOR THE PROTECTION OF SAY HOME. NOW AS A PRIVATE I WOULD LIKE

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OKAY. AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK LATER? WE CAN SPEAK IN PRIVATE.

THE NEXT THING IS THAT THE CONTACT INFORMATION THAT WAS USED WAS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. THIS WAS NOT INFORMATION THAT WE TO DIG FOR.

THIS WAS NOT INFORMATION THAT WE WENT LOOKING TO MAKE PER PUBLIC.

THESE WERE THIS WAS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EDUCATE THE POPULATION OF BEAUFORT COUNTY AND, MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNEW HOW TO REACH YOU GUYS AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEIR ELECTED LEADERS. WAS NOT MEANT TO BE IN ANY WAY IN ANY WAY CONSTRUED AS THREAT OR TO BE HARMFUL IN ANY WAY. IT WAS TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC DISCUSSION WITH OUR LEADERSHIP . NOW IF SOMEONE FEELS THAT THIS WAS IMPROPER OR THAT IT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED, THERE WERE WAYS THAT YOU COULD HAVE COME IN ASKED US TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AND WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT BY GOING TO THE NEWSPAPER AND CALLING MY PERSONAL AND I FEEL THAT WAS MY PERSONAL CHARACTER INTO QUESTION.

KIND OF FEEL UPTIGHT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS I'VE HAD PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU IN THE PAST. I'VE BEEN HANDING OUT THESE FLIERS BECAUSE.

I WANT OTHER CITIZENS TO HAVE PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU .

I WANT THEM TO EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW IMPORTANT THESE THINGS AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST A FEW PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OPINIONS THAT ARE FORTUNATE IN A WAY THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO CONSIDER. I APOLOGIZE FOR ANYTHING THAT I'VE DONE TO MAKE YOU FEEL ANY KIND OF WAY BUT AT THE SAME TIME I EXPECT YOU GUYS TO BE LEADERS.

I EXPECT YOU TO HAVE PUBLIC DISCOURSE. I MET YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE ACCESS TO YOU THAT IF THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO YOU, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT ON THE LIST IS CHARLES EVENING. I AM ASSUMING YOU ALL RECEIVE MY EMAILS WEEK ABOUT THE OLD BEAUFORT GOLF COURSE. I I DIDN'T PLAN TO COME UP HERE BUT I'D.

I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT I FELT STRONGLY ENOUGH TO FIND A CLEAN SHIRT AND SHOW UP SO HERE I AM.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKELY THAT IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT AS A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

I THINK IT WOULD TAKE AN LEVEL OF CAPITALIZATION TO TO REALLY IT AS A AS A PROFITABLE ENTERPRISE, AS AN AND TO BE AFFORDABLE ACCESSIBLE AS A GOLF COURSE, IT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED AS A MUNICIPAL. SO WHY WHY SHOULD WE YOU KNOW, WHY BOTHER? I THINK THERE I THINK THERE ARE ECONOMIC SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ECONOMICALLY RECREATION GENERATES IT GENERATES SALES TAX AND AND IT BRINGS PEOPLE INTO THE AREA HAVING A NICELY MAINTAINED GOLF COURSE RATHER THAN ONE THAT'S IN DISREPAIR PROJECTS PROPERTY VALUES IN THAT AREA AND HELPS TO PROTECT THE TAX. YOUR YOUR COLLEAGUE MR. PERSIMMON MIGHT TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A GOLF COURSE THE ENJOY GOLF COURSE THAT HE'S PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH WHICH STARTED OUT AS A PRIVATE BECAME MUNICIPAL AND FOR 35 YEARS, HOSTED A STOP ON THE PGA TOUR OF SMALL STOP. YES, BUT IT BROUGHT MILLIONS, A SMALL COMMUNITY AND A LOT OF NOTORIETY TO ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-MAINTAINED GREEN SPACES FIRST DEFENSE AGAINST ARBOREAL PESTS DISEASES AND IT'S HUGE THAT OPEN IS HUGE FOR FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT WHICH IS A VERY REAL IF YOU COME DOWN TO MY HOUSE AFTER OR AFTER A RAIN YOU'LL SEE FLOODS IN OUR BACKYARDS BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS THE THE WHOLE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DYNAMICS HAVE BEEN POORLY MANAGED ON THE GOLF COURSE AND NOW THEY JUST DON'T

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THANK YOU. NEXT IS ARNOLD BROWN AND AFTER ARNOLD BROWN IS JIMMY.

I'M SURE MR. BROWN WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING. OH, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. NEXT IS JIMMY YARO. AM I PRONOUNCING THAT LANCE I ABOUT THIS ISSUE? SOMETHING ELSE I'M SORRY SAY AGAIN ABOUT A DIFFERENT ISSUE NOW THIS IT DOESN'T MEAN OR IS PUBLIC COMMENT YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER AS LONG AS IT'S POLITE IF YOU WANT COULD YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME? I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY. OKAY. YOU'RE OKAY.

THANK YOU. THE LAST MEETING NO ONE TOLD US ABOUT IT AND I HAD PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA TO BE VOTED ON FOR A REZONING AND IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT I WANTED TO DOWN ZONE NOT UP ZONE I'M I WAS ZONED FOR 76 I COULD DO 76 OR 96 UNITS THE WAY IT ZONED I ONLY WANT TO DO HALF OF THAT AND IT CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND NO ONE TOLD US ABOUT THE MEETING I'D ASK ROB BUT HE WAS ON VACATION SO WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A MEETING SO I WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD GET PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA TO BE VOTED ON BECAUSE APPARENTLY IT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT IT WAS ABOUT. WE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WE DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS, WE JUST LISTEN SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.

THAT'S ALL IT WAS ABOUT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT IS PHILLY SLIM AKA GOOD EVENING PHILLY SLIM AKA I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE RESOLUTION. ITEM NUMBER 21 YOU INTEND TO PROPOSE THAT MIKE MOORE WORKS WITH DOT TO APPLY FOR A LARGE BRIDGE PROJECT GRANT. THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION EXPRESSES COUNTY'S SUPPORT FOR THE FULL U.S. 278 CORRIDOR PROJECT.

IT WILL FUND THE ORIGINAL SCOPE PROJECT. IF SUCCESSFUL, THE GRANT WOULD CLOSE FUNDING GAP AND ENABLE DELIVERY OF THE COMPLETE CORRIDOR.

SEEMS TO ME THE LAST MEETING I WAS IN WHERE YOU APPROVED THE EASTBOUND YOU ALSO TOLD THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD THEY HAD NO PLAN FOR THE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT'S NEWS TO ME. IF YOU VOTE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS IN MY OPINION YOU WILL NOT HAVE HEARD OUR VOICES OR READ OUR LETTERS AND PERHAPS HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE 2024 REFERENDUM. IT WASN'T ABOUT THE 1%. THE FAILURE OF THAT REFERENDUM WASN'T ABOUT THE PENNY. IT WAS ABOUT TRUSTING THIS COUNCIL TO SPEND OUR MONEY WISELY AND TO WORK SOLUTIONS REVIVING $500 MILLION MONOLITHIC STRUCTURE TO HILTON HEAD DOES NOT SHOW US YOU WERE WORKING FOR SOLUTIONS. YOU'RE STILL GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU WANT. THE CITIZENS HAVE TOLD YOU WHAT WE WANT.

WE WANT A SAFE WAY ON AND OFF THE BRIDGE AND WE WOULD LIKE AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPLY FOR A LARGE BRIDGE GRANT, PLEASE APPLY FOR ONE THAT GIVES US A SECOND WAY OFF AND ON THE ISLAND. SO THE REAL POINT AND REAL

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I'M DISAPPOINTED IN JUSTIN POWELL AND THE SIDOTI AND IF ANYONE ELSE IS INVOLVED WITH THIS LAST MINUTE HAIL MARY. I'M DISAPPOINTED IN YOU TOO. THANK.

THANK YOU. NEXT IS NIKKI MAXEY AND NIKKI MAXEY.

I LIVE IN BLUFFTON ON MYRTLE ISLAND AND THIS WEEKEND I NOTICED SOME SIGNS OPPOSING A SIDEWALK WHICH I WAS IN SHOCK ABOUT. I WAS COMING DOWN THE ROAD AS A FAMILY OF FIVE RIDING THEIR BIKES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AND HAVE NO PLACE TO GO.

I'M JUST SAYING I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING A NICE SIDEWALK FOR FAMILIES TO GO BACK AND FORTH FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE LANDING. THAT'S IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WHAT'S GOING ON? MY MY ERICA AREA AREA.

KAREN, YOU SHOULD KNOW IT BY NOW. I SHOULDN'T.

THANK YOU. SORRY WE STRAGGLING IN HERE LATE.

NOT ONE BUT TWO ACCIDENTS ON 170. SO HERE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF DRIVING RAINSTORM. BUT DANNY RIGHT. WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THE FULL THREE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT WINDMILL HARBOR. I'M REPRESENTING THOSE FOLKS IN TERMS OF THE BRIDGE ACROSS MAGGIE CREEK. I REALIZE EVERY ONE OF YOU ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE BRIDGE REPLACED. THAT BRIDGE IS 70 YEARS OLD.

. THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS THAT IN THE PROCESS OF THIS GRANT $120 MILLION GRANT OUT THERE, WHETHER THAT GRANT IS FORTHCOMING ARE NOT FORTHCOMING THAT IT MAY ENGENDER CONTINUED DISCUSSION UP AND DOWN OVER AND UNDER LEFT AND RIGHT THAT WE'VE SEEN FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS WITH REGARD TO THE BRIDGES AND TO 78.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE AT THIS TIME PROPOSE TO THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND IS LET'S MOVE AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE TO REPLACE THAT BRIDGE. IT'S IT'S GOT TO THE POINT WHERE EVERY TIME CROSS THAT BRIDGE IT'S A LITTLE BIT SCARY. IT REALLY IS.

I WAS ON IT RECENTLY. TRAFFIC WAS NOT MOVING. IT WAS BUMPER TO BUMPER.

THERE WERE SEVERAL LARGE TRUCKS RIGHT TOP OF THAT BRIDGE AND I WAS JUST THINKING IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN THIS WOULD BE NOT LOCAL NEWS . THIS WOULD BE A NATIONAL DISASTER. AT ANY RATE, DO NOT THROW THESE DISCUSSIONS WHETHER.

THE 120 MILLION IS FORTHCOMING OR NOT. BACK TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD COUNCIL OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THAT GROUP IS THEY TROUBLE DETERMINED.

THEY THEY WON'T THEY CAN'T DECIDE WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS.

SO I MEAN I'M JUST IT IT'S GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE JUST NEED TO MOVE AND GET IT DONE.

YOU KNOW, GOOD LUCK WITH 120 MILLION. I HOPE THAT IS.

BUT WHETHER IT IS OR IS NOT THOSE BRIDGES THAT BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TIM KELLY, COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNTY STAFF MEMBERS.

THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT 278 CORRIDOR PROJECT.

MY NAME IS TIM KELLY AND. I'M A RESIDENT OF WINDMILL HARBOR.

I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE PLAY FOR WINDMILL HARBOR. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN HERE A LOT A OF TIMES IN THE PAST. WE'VE BEEN BIG SUPPORTERS OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY BOARD AND AND ALSO BY THE STATE. THE PREFERRED OPTION WE'RE CONCERNED NOW THERE COULD BE A DELAY. IF YOU GO AFTER THE $200 MILLION IN GRANT MONEY AND MAKE ONE BIG PROJECT MIKE WE'RE SELLING IT SHORT AT 120 BUT I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE ABOUT 200 MILLION. IN PRIOR LIFE I WAS HEAVILY

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I KNOW THE PROCESS VERY WELL. I KNOW THE DELAYS OCCUR AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT DELAYS WOULD OCCUR IF YOU WENT AND APPLIED FOR THE GRANT. WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE PLAN THAT'S ON THE TABLE AND THEN IF MORE MONEY AVAILABLE AT SOME OTHER TIME THEN WORK ON THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR PROJECT FROM SQUIRE POPE ROAD TO THE BRIDGES. BUT AS MIKE SAID, OUR CONCERN IS IS THE SAFETY, THE BRIDGE AND THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS. SO IF YOU WOULD PROCEED WITH THE PLAN ON THE TABLE WE'D APPRECIATE IT. THANKS.

OKAY. WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WAS HELD UP ON THE HIGHWAY THAT NEEDS TO SIGN IN? I SAY NONE. WE CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT AT

[8. LIASION AND COMMITTEE REPORTS]

I HAVE A LIST OF THE DIFFERENT ONES THAT HAVE MET SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.

MR. BROWN, I HAVE YOU DOWN FOR COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW BOARD.

YOU HAVE REPORTS IN SOUTHERN CAROLINA ALLIANCE? YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD MET LAST AND THEY DISCUSSED TWO CAR DEALERSHIPS IN THE AREA. I WANT TO GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO OUR CFO. HUGE SHOUT OUT TO OUR CFO. SHE WAS THE ONLY CFO IN THIS COUNTY THAT HAS WORKED IN THIS COUNTY THAT LET THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORP KNOW THEY NEEDED AN AUDIT. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RESULTS OF THAT AUDIT WHEN I WHEN WE MEET NEXT TIME WITH THE BOARD AND ALSO SOUTHERN CAROLINA ALLIANCE THE BOARD MEETING WAS JUNE 24TH. THEY BROUGHT A NEW COMPANY CALLED SEARS INSTRUMENTS.

IT'S LOCATED IN BLUFFTON EXPECTED TO BE ONLINE IN DECEMBER.

IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN JOINING THE COMPANY, THE EMAIL ADDRESS IS INFO DASH U.S. AT SEA AS DOES DASH INSTRUMENTS DOT COM. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ALL RIGHT, MR. GLOVER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM BEAUFORT JASPER'S SEWER WATER AUTHORITY ? NO, MA'AM. OKAY.

WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THAT MEETING. OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

YES, GOOD. WE HAVE, UM, ZONING BOARD. I DON'T THINK THEY HAD ANYTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME. WHO WOULD LIKE REPORT ON THE NORTHERN REGIONAL PLANNING IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE? I KNOW OF US ATTENDED THAT IN ADAM.

WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THAT? OKAY.

DO WE SAW A PRESENTATION ON THE STUDY FOR THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION GOES. VERY INTERESTING REPORT. NOW THE NORTHERN COUNTY HAS GROWN ENOUGH. WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME MULTI TRANSIT GRANTS POSSIBILITIES AND THEY'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS ABOUT IT AND THERE'S A REPORT THAT WE GOT THAT WE CAN SEND OUT TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THAT .

LOWCOUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. WE HAD SEVERAL ATTEND THAT.

UM NOT I THINK I'M OUT OF HERE. YES SIR. WE ATTENDED THE LOCAL HOSPITAL GOVERNOR ACTUALLY THURSDAY WAS A WEEK AGO AND THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THEIR BUDGET FOR THE YEAR AND FINALIZING BUDGET AND A MAY $1.5 MILLION FOR THAT FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR ON A BUDGET PROCESS WITH THE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FOUR REGION COUNTIES OF JASPER AND THE BEAUFORT AND THE CONTRIBUTION WAS BASED UPON THE IT'S BASED UPON THE IS BASED ON THE POPULATION AND IS TALKING TO THE COUNTY AND AT 2.3 THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE THEY'LL VOTED TO ACTUALLY INCREASE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION THE LOCAL BUDGET AT $0.10 JUST AN INCREASE FOR FOR THE FUTURE UNTIL THEY GET EACH EACH COUNTY CONTRIBUTING $1 ACCORDING TO THE POPULATION AMOUNT AT THIS TIME.

SO WE LAST YEAR WE CONTRIBUTED A TOTAL OF A TOTAL OF $159,000 TO THE COST OF THE 10% INCREASE. THAT WAS $0.95 FOR A VERSION OF WITH AN INCREASE OF $0.10

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I TAB AND I BOTH ATTENDED THE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL BOARD MEETING.

THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A LIST OF CANDIDATES FOR VACANCIES THAT THEY HAVE AND COUNTY COUNCIL WILL BE CONSIDERING THOSE PROBABLY IN OUR AUGUST MEETING.

THEY HAVE FOUR CANDIDATES. THEY WERE INTERVIEWED AND WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES ON THE BEAUFORT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL BOARD. THEY HAVE NOT HIRED A NEW CFO.

THEY HAVE CONTINUED THE INTERVIEWS FOR A NEW CFO AT MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND WILL PROBABLY MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT SOON REGARDING. ANY OTHER COUNCIL HAVE ANY LIAISON OR REPORTS. YES SIR. THIS IS NOT A REPORT OR A OR ANYTHING ELSE BUT IT IS ACTUALLY JUST A POINT OF ORDER US ASKING THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION. THIS GOES BACK TO THE JUNE 23RD LAST MEETING AND WE HAD A ZONING MAP COME UP FOR THE THE BLUFFTON AREA AND I HAVE ASKED FOR A DEFERRAL BECAUSE WE NEEDED MORE INFORMATION. AND MR. YORK WHO JUST CAME UP WITH SPOKE WHO I HAVE ACTUALLY NEVER MET BEFORE THIS IS HIS FIRST TIME HERE. I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE BUT AGAIN HAS COME TONIGHT. I WOULD ASK THAT I MAKE A MOTION THAT THAT I MOVE THE COUNCIL AGENDA ITEM 17 ON JUNE 23RD 2025 COUNCIL AGENDA WHICH WAS AN AUDIENCE FOR READING TITLED 2025 SLASH 37 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING MAP FOR 11 ACRES LOCATED ON BURNT CHURCH ROAD OUR 630 90001552000R 630 90000056000R 630 900002969000 FROM T THREE HAMLET NEIGHBORHOOD, T-3 H N AND T FOR HAMLET CENTER TWO T AND T FOR HHC 2T3 NEIGHBORHOOD T3 N AND IF AS PUBLIC HEARING SO I GET I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION AND ASK FOR SOMEONE TO THE SECOND THAT FORM OF MOTION THAT HAVE A SECOND WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND LET ME JUST FINISH THE REASON I'M DOING THIS I THINK THAT MR. WALKER DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND ACTUALLY COME FORWARD AND GIVE HIS PRESENTATION.

WE HAD QUESTIONS FOR AND AGAIN AS AS A AS A CITIZEN OF THE COUNTY IN MY DISTRICT I'VE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT NOW THAT THAT I THINK IT CONSIDERED A DOWN ZONING BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS AND HAVE TO LOOK AND HAVE TO DECIDE ONCE WE HAD ALL THE INFORMATION. SO AGAIN JUST ONE WOULD LIKE TO COUNSEL THIS COUNCIL TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THIS BACK UP AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

MR. HERBERT IS THIS APPROPRIATE TIME TO HAVE THAT MOTION MADE ITSELF IF IT IS RIGHT FOR ONE MORE AND JUST JUST FOR CLARIFICATION WAS THAT TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA IS YES NOT THIS AGENDA BUT THE NEXT AGENDA THAT WOULD HAVE PROPER PUBLIC NOTIFICATION FOR EVERYBODY AND IT WOULD BE OBVIOUS THAT THE ANY OTHER POINTS OF DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS ONE I JUST REQUEST THAT WHEN WE COME BACK WE GET A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE OF EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE AREA BEING CONNECTED TO SEWERS OUT THERE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO STAY WITH SEPTIC TANKS. THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT QUESTION NOR NORMALLY THIS WOULD HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR BECAUSE THE VOTE WAS FIVE FIVE CORRECT FOR RECONSIDERATION ACTUALLY THERE CLARIFY 5 TO 6 SO IT FAILED 5 TO 6.

OKAY. I THOUGHT IT WAS FIVE FIVE I'M SORRY BUT THE QUESTION WOULD BE WAS MR. LAWSON ON THE PREVAILING SIDE I.E. ON THE SIDE THAT VOTED THE MOTION DOWN AND I BELIEVE THAT HE WAS AND TYPICALLY IF THE COUNCIL DIDN'T MOVE TO RECONSIDER IT THEN WOULD HAVE TO WAIT ONE YEAR BEFORE THEY COULD RESUBMIT THAT APPLICATION UNLESS THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THE APPLICATION IN SOME MANNER OR IF THEY HAD GOOD CAUSE AND BROUGHT IT BEFORE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL WAIVE THAT ONE YEAR PERIOD WHICH IS WITHIN THE PREROGATIVE OF COUNCIL TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE THERE ARE FOUR CRITERIA

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WE'VE GONE AWAY SOMEWHERE. THIS IS THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE DAY AND THERE'S PRECEDENT DOING IT AT THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE DAY WHICH THIS WOULD FALL IN THAT SO COUNCIL'S WITHIN HIS PURVIEW TO DETERMINE THAT THIS IS THE NEXT WAS LEGISLATIVE DAY SO IT'S PROPER BUT THAT'S A DECISION COUNCIL HAD TO MAKE ON ITS INTERPRETATION OF ROBERT'S RULE THAT IT'S PROPER TO MAKE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER. WELL, IT'S PROPER TO MAKE THE MOTION RECONSIDER.

THE QUESTION IS IS IT TIMELY AND IT'S GOING TO ALL DEPEND UPON THE INTERPRETATION OF THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE DAY PURSUANT TO ROBERT'S. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. ROBERT I'M TRYING TO A MOTION RECONSIDER IN THIS NATURE WOULD BE TWO THIRDS VOTE CORRECT IT WOULD REQUIRE A MAJORITY VOTE IS. WHAT JUST A SIMPLE MAJORITY I BELIEVE I A COMMENT I THINK YOUR ANALYSIS WITH REGARD TO THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE DAY MAKES SENSE CONSIDERING WE ONLY HAVE THEM INTERMITTENTLY AND WE HAD WHERE THIS OCCURRED AND THIS IS THE NEXT ONE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND TYPICALLY A MOTION TO RECONSIDER COMES ABOUT WHEN NEW INFORMATION IS LEARNED OR GLEANED AND IN THIS CASE MR. LOSSES CONVEYED THAT THERE IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTED TO KNOW THAT COULDN'T BE ANSWERED THAT TIME AND. UNFORTUNATELY THE APPLICANT WASN'T AT THAT MEETING PROVIDE SOME OF THE INFORMATION AND HE HAS INDICATED THAT HE WASN'T AWARE THAT WAS BEING HEARD AT THAT. I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT COULD HAPPEN BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S CARRY SOME WEIGHT. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO KNOW THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED AND IT IS PUBLIC AND HAD REQUESTED THE REZONING. SO I WILL NOT FOR THIS MOTION BECAUSE OF THAT I THINK IT SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THAT AN OWNER CAN SAY THAT HE DID KNOW ABOUT THE MEETING BUT BUT IT WAS PUBLISHED A MEETING AND HE DID REQUEST THE REZONING THAT'S MY OPINION.

OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE VOTE? WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL ONE JUST ONE QUOTE. I THINK TO SOME CONFUSION DURING THE DISCUSSION AT THE LAST MEETING WITH REGARD TO WHETHER IT IN UPTOWN OR DOWN ZONE AND I THINK THAT MAY HAVE THAT MAY HAVE HAD SOME WEIGHT IN THE WAY THE VOTING WAS TAKEN THAT NIGHT. SO WE WERE CLEAR NOW THAT IT'S NOT AN UP OR DOWN REQUEST.

YES. AND I WILL ADMIT THAT AS I RECALL, STAFF HAD SOME DIFFICULTY CLEARLY ANSWERING THAT QUESTION FOR COUNSEL. IF WE IF IF A PERSON VOTES YES, DOES THAT MEAN THEY'RE JUST VOTING TO RECONSIDER IT? ALL YOU'RE VOTING IS WHETHER OR NOT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER IT.

OH YES. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE VOTING YOU'RE NOT VOTING TO APPROVE THE ZONING MAP OR TO DISAPPROVE IT JUST TO DISCUSS IT AGAIN AND RECONSIDER IT I WILL MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT AND IN MY YEARS EXPERIENCE IT'S ONE OF THE FEW TIMES I'VE EVER SEEN A REZONING WHERE THE OWNER WAS NOT PRESENT AT THE MEETING IT IT IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE TO BE AT THE MEETING IN MY OPINION IF REQUESTING A REZONING SO AGAIN I WILL VOTE NO NOT RECONSIDER. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS? YES. SOMEONE ELSE I THINK IT WAS MR. DAWSON. COUNCILMAN DAWSON. OKAY.

GOT A FRAMING PROBLEM? YES. READY TO VOTE? WE'RE GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE ALL RIGHT. SO IS EVERYONE CLEAR ON WHAT THE VOTE IS ABOUT ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT COMES FORWARD AT THE NEXT MEETING.

YES A VOTE YES WOULD HAVE IT COME FORWARD AT THE NEXT MEETING WHICH WOULD BE AUGUST 11TH. OKAY, CORRECT. COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON MARK LAWSON YES. COUNCILMEMBER BROWN. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER YES COUNCILMEMBER PASSING IT YES. COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES. COUNCILMEMBER DAWSON YES.

COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW YES. CHAIR HOWARD OH THE PASSES OKAY .

MOVING ALONG THE NEXT ITEM ON ARE THERE ANY OTHER BESIDES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER

[9. RECOMMENDATION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH JASPER COUNTY TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL INTAKE AND SHELTERING OF ANIMALS FROM JASPER COUNTY (Fiscal Impact: Beaufort County will document personnel, capital, and animal care costs associated with caring for Jasper County animals and Jasper County will reimburse Beaufort County or directly cover the cost of the animal care for their animals received and cared for at Beaufort County)]

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THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH JASPER COUNTY TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR ANIMAL CONTROL INTAKE AND SHELTERING OF ANIMALS FROM JASPER FISCAL IMPACT COUNTY WILL DOCUMENT PERSONNEL CAPITAL AND ANIMAL CARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CARING JASPER COUNTY ANIMALS IN JASPER COUNTY WILL REIMBURSE COUNTY OR DIRECTLY COVER THE COST OF ANIMAL FOR THEIR ANIMALS IN RECEIVED AND FOR BY COUNTY OUR ADMINISTRATOR WILL COME OKAY I THINK WE HAVE SOME GUESTS FROM BEAUFORT FROM JASPER COUNTY HERE TOO INCLUDING THE CHAIRMAN JOHN KEMP AND PERHAPS OTHERS. MADAM CHAIRMAN, I LIKE TO OFFER THAT AS A MOTION JUST TO PUT IT ON THE FLOOR AND THEN WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION. IS THAT OKAY? MOTION APPROPRIATE. A SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

WE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN REESE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. HOW ARE YOU THIS EVENING? GOOD. SO YEAH. SO BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JASPER COUNTY CHAIRMAN JOHN KEMP IS IN THE ROOM.

JASPER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDY FULGHUM. JASPER COUNTY ATTORNEY DAVID TEDDER. ALSO JASPER COUNTY FIRE CHIEF WELLS AS WELL AS BEAUFORT COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES TALLULAH . ALL.

YES. SORRY. I ALWAYS CALL IT A LITTLE I CAN'T HELP IT AND I'M HILTON HEAD HUMANE DIRECTOR FOR ANY GAFFE GAFFE.

HOLTER IS HERE AS WELL ALL IN SUPPORT OF THIS REQUEST SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS REQUESTING YOU TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH JASPER COUNTY. THIS RELATES TO A CONVERSATION HAD LATE LAST WEEK BETWEEN OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR MOORE AND AND JASPER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ANDY FOLJAMBE IN.

IN CASE THERE IS A NEED THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES MAY NEED TO IN AND ASSIST JASPER COUNTY WITH INTAKE OF ANIMALS IN JASPER COUNTY AND HELP SHELTERING OF JASPER COUNTY ANIMALS. WE'D LIKE TO BE THE POSITION THAT WE HAVE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT ALLOW US TO DO THAT IF THOSE STEPS ARE NECESSARY BEAUFORT COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES AND OUR PARTNERS ARE PREPARED AND CAPABLE OF STEPPING IN TO ASSIST IF THAT BECOMES. AS I SAID I'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST OF PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE PREPARED TO SUPPORT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE OR COUNCILMAN REECE JUST VERY QUICKLY, MR. LULA AND MS.. FERRANTE, ARE YOU FOR THIS? I WE APPRECIATE THAT AND APPRECIATE YOU ALL EVERYBODY BEING HERE. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. IT'S WRITTEN WE ARE. ANYWAY, YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. WE APPRECIATE IT.

RIGHT NOW THE INTENT FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER TO HELP SOLVE PROBLEMS AMONG OUR TWO COUNTIES AND THEN AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO RESOLVE MORE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, MADAM, YES.

I WOULD JUST LOVE TO HEAR FROM THEM. JASPER COUNTY CERTAINLY THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 6:00 SO SO MR. FOLJAMBE HAD TO TAKE A FLIGHT THIS MORNING AND AND HE GOT BACK HERE JUST IN TIME. HE SAID HE'S A LITTLE WEARY BUT HE MADE IT FOR THIS MEETING. THAT'S THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, HE DID ALL THAT I COULD SIT FOR SINCE 6:00. I THINK IT'S A WHAT? MADAM CHAIR. YES, THE COUNCIL. GOOD TO SEE EVERYONE.

AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, OUR CHAIRMAN MR. CAMP HERE AND ALSO ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER, MR. CHRIS VAN GIESEN WHO'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

YES. IN JASPER COUNTY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PROVIDES, THE ANIMAL CONTROL AND WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY CONTRACTED WITH A NONPROFIT AGENCY TO HANDLE THE ANIMAL SHELTERING. WE ARE IN THE THROES OF NEGOTIATING WITH THAT GROUP AGAIN. IT IS A DIFFICULT TIME FOR US AND WE WANT TO BE PREPARED TO HAVE AN IMO YOU WITH COUNTY TO ASSIST US. WE HAVE ENJOYED THE OPPORTUNITY

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JASPER COUNTY WE'RE GOING TO STRESS SHARED SERVICES WITHIN THE COUNTY AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE TAXPAYERS CAN AND WE CAN SUPPORT OR YOU CAN SUPPORT US AND I WISH YOU WOULD APPRECIATE YOU US.

MR.. YEAH, GUYS, THIS HAS BEEN A BIG ISSUE FOR JASPER COUNTY AND I THINK YOU GUYS WERE CLOSE TO DEAL A YEAR AGO OR SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND I'M NEW TO THE COUNCIL THIS YEAR BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW WE'RE A GROWING COUNTY AND WE NEED HELP.

WE WANT TO DO IT PROFESSIONALLY AND I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO STEP UP AND CONTROL AND MEETING WITH TALLULAH AND FRANNY HAS BEEN FANTASTIC FOR US. IF THEY CAN TEACH US AND SHOW US THE WAY, I THINK IT'LL BE AN AWESOME THING FOR JASPER COUNTY SO.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT. I HAD A QUESTION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS WOULD BE A TEMPORARY MEASURE. MAY TYPE ARRANGEMENT. WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION FOR TO AUTHORIZE THE ADMINISTRATOR TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A SHORT TERM TEMPORARY MLA AND BY SHORT TERM TEMPORARY WE MEAN THAT IT WOULD START WITH ONE YEAR WITH THE OPTION TO RENEW AT THE PLEASURE OF EITHER COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING WE APPRECIATE IT. VERY NICE.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? NO, THAT WAS PART OF MY MOTION AND I'M GLAD TO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO AND WORK WITH YOU AND I THINK THERE PROBABLY ARE GOING TO BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE. SO I HOPE SO. I HOPE SO TOO.

YEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.

APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. AS STATED BY MR. HERBERT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO THAT IN A SECOND AND A SECOND. RIGHT.

YOU TO RESTATE THEM? OH, WHATEVER MOTION YOU READ EARLIER WHICH WOULD INCLUDE FOR A MOTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH JASPER COUNTY FOR THE PROVISION OF PROVIDING ANIMAL SERVICES ON A SHORT TERM BASIS OVER ONE YEAR WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW IT IF NECESSARY.

OKAY. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE INCLUSION OF TEMPORARY FOR ONE YEAR. SO I'LL SECOND THAT. OKAY.

CAN WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SAYING NONE PLEASE BY SHOW OF HANDS. OH A VOTE THAT IS UNANIMOUS. MR. DAWSON, ARE YOU ON VOTED YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THIS IS A LANDMARK DECISION. OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL. YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU YOU. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ON THE AGENDA WE HAVE A

[10. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

I'LL SECOND THAT. SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS.

[11. 2025/30 AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A FORMALIZATION PROCESS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY HISTORICALLY MAINTAINED ROADS KNOWN AS “LEGACY ROADS” AND THE EXECUTION OF ANY AND ALL ASSOCIATED INSTRUMENTS OF CONVEYANCE TO THE COUNTY]

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE GET INTO ORDINANCES FOR THIRD READING. NUMBER 11 IS 2025.

SINCE TAB'S NOT HERE, I'LL BE DOING THESE 2025 SLASH 30 AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A FORMALIZED SESSION PROCESS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY HISTORICALLY MAINTAINED KNOWN AS LEGACY ROADS IN EXECUTION OF ANY AND ALL ASSOCIATED INSTRUMENTS OF CONVEYANCE TO THE COUNTY.

THIS WENT TO PUBLIC FACILITIES ON MAY 19TH A VOTE OF 9 TO 0 A VOTE AT FIRST READING AND A PUBLIC HEARING 920 2510 TO 0 AND A VOTE AT READING ON JUNE 23RD 2025 11 TO 0 MOTION LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE AND IT IS UP ON THE SCREEN TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 SLASH 30. I'M SURE I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOTION HAS READ AND SHOWN ON THE SCREEN ABOVE WE HAVE A SECOND A SECOND AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS AND I YES I MEAN THIS IS APPROVED. OKAY.

[12. 2025/31 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE ANY AND ALL NECESSARY DOCUMENTS FOR THE CONVEYANCE OF RIGHT OF WAY KNOWN AS ORANGE COURT, PRINCE WILLIAM DRIVE, AND INDIGO WOODS COURT TO THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL]

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[13. 2025/32 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CONVEYANCE OF RIGHT OF WAY KNOWN AS 16TH STREET EXTENSION AND A RELATED DRAINAGE EASEMENT TO THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL]

WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN. OH MOTION I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BROWN. WE HAVE A SECOND A SECOND? A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS YES. OKAY.

[14. 2025/33 AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 99 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, ARTICLE II STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY SECTIONS 101 FINDINGS OF FACT, 106 DEFINITIONS, AND 109, EXEMPTIONS OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES]

DO WE HAVE A MOTION, MADAM CHAIR, I WILL GLADLY AND PROUDLY MAKE THAT MOTION TO MOVE TO APPROVE AS READ ON THE SCREEN AS AGREED AND SHOWN ON THE SCREEN ABOVE I'LL SECOND THAT SECOND VOTE TOM WRITES THIS THIS CLEARS MANY YEARS OF CONFUSION.

MADAM CHAIR I BELIEVE IN THANK YOU DAVID AND ALSO FOR YOU DID I SUPPORT HER I'M SORRY.

BEFORE ITS COUNTERPART ROYAL THE BEFORE IT WAS THE TOWN PORT WORLD THIS ONE IS 2020 533 WHICH IS BEAUFORT COUNTY. YOU'RE CORRECT DO I NEED TO READ IT AGAIN? OKAY. AFTER MANY YEARS OF CONFUSION. THANK YOU DAVID AND AND HERBERT AND THE PEOPLE AT THE AIR STATION FOR GETTING THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT THE NEXT ONE IS 2025 SO OH DID WE TAKE THE VOTE? WE'RE GOING TO CALL I'M GOING TO CALL A VOTE ON IT. YEAH ALL IN FAVOR I I THINK IT UNANIMOUS.

[15. 2025/34 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED AT 15 SUZANNE AVENUE ON PAUKIE ISLAND IN BEAUFORT COUNTY SOUTH CAROLINA]

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE 2025 SLASH 34 OUR MOTION WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BROWN DO WE HAVE SECOND? NO, SIR.

NO SECOND BY COUNCILMAN DAWSON IS IN HIS DISTRICT ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS ALL RIGHT.

[16. 2025/36: AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 14 ANIMALS, ARTICLE II ANIMAL CONTROL, SECTION 14- 27, DEFINITIONS; SECTION 14-28 COUNTY PET LICENSE; SECTION 14-30 DECLARATION OF RESTRICTED DOG, APPEAL OF BREED DETERMINATION; SECTION 14-32 DANGEROUS ANIMALS; SECTION 14-34 NUISANCE PETS OR LIVESTOCK; SECTION 14-35 ANIMAL CRUELTY AND NEGLECT; SECTION 14-43 LIVESTOCK; SECTION 14-45 RABIES CONTROL ACT; SECTION 14-47 DANGEROUS ANIMALS NOT TO GO UNCONFINED ON PREMISES OR OFF PREMISES UNLESS SAFELY RESTRAINED; AND SECTION 14-48 ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES.]

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SO THAT'S UNDER SECTION 1432 THE LOOKBACK ALLOWS SOMEONE WHOSE DOG HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN DETERMINED TO BE DANGEROUS UNDER THE ORDINANCE AFTER A YEAR HAS PASSED SINCE THAT TO ASK FOR REASSESSMENT THE WAY THAT IT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IN THE PROPOSED AMENDED ORDINANCE IS THAT IF YOUR DOG WAS CLASSIFIED A LEVEL ONE OR LEVEL TWO WHICH ARE THE LOWER LEVEL OF A DANGEROUS ANIMAL YOU CAN DO IN ONCE PER YEAR AND YOU HAVE THAT INITIAL DETERMINATION REVIEWED BY A COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER AND THEN POTENTIALLY BY THE MAGISTRATE COURT IF YOU DISAGREED WITH THEIR DECISION FOR A LEVEL THREE DOG THAT WOULD BE THE ABILITY TO DO SO AFTER FIVE YEARS BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST SERIOUS AND THAT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT FOR DETERMINATION.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE A MOTION TO ADD A RETROACTIVITY PERIOD THAT WOULD BE UNLIMITED AND ALLOW FOR ANY DOG OWNER WHO HAS PREVIOUSLY HAD A DOG DETERMINED TO BE DANGEROUS TO APPEAL THAT DETERMINATION AFTER ONE YEAR THAT'S NOT IN THE CURRENT COURT CURRENTLY IT IS NOT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE DOES NOT MAKE THE ORDINANCE RETROACTIVE.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND AGAIN IT COULD BE SUBJECT TO A MOTION PERSONALLY I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE IT RETROACTIVE BUT I LIKE THE DIFFERENT LEVELS ONE, TWO AND THREE I THINK THAT IS AND AS A FORMER MAGISTRATE MR. MCGOWAN MAY HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT TO KNOW I THINK THE POSITIVE ASPECTS OF THIS MAKE IT MUCH LESS DIFFICULT I HATE TO USE THE WORD EASIER A JUDGE TO DEAL WITH THE DIFFERENT LEVELS PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO THE DANGEROUS ANIMALS BECAUSE THAT WAS ALWAYS FRAUGHT WITH DIFFICULT WITH REGARD TO THE LEVEL OF DANGER AND THE CONFINEMENT ISSUES AND A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS THAT ALWAYS MADE IT VERY EMOTIONAL AND VERY DIFFICULT DEAL WITH. SO I WOULD SUPPORT THIS AND RECOMMEND YOU CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT FUTURE CHANGES THAT MAY IMPROVE EVEN FURTHER.

YES, SIR. AND IF I MAY, ONE THING THAT WE WANTED TO ALLOW THE COURTS THAT YOU YOURSELF WOULD RECOGNIZE IS SOME MORE DISCRETION IN THIS BECAUSE TOO OFTEN IT IS A BLACK AND WHITE DETERMINATION. IT DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY TONY I THINK THIS GIVES THAT SO IT'S IT'S A IT'S VERY IT'S A VERY POSITIVE MOVE.

AND THE OTHER COMMENTS ACTUALLY JUST ANOTHER SO I KNOW WE HAD TALKED KIND OF OFF THE RECORD ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS HERE AND TRYING TO NOT NECESSARILY MAKE IT RETROACTIVE THAT ONE YEAR REVIEW PERIOD WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, SO THEY COULD COME FORWARD AND HAVE THAT DETERMINATION, CORRECT? YES SIR? OKAY. AND THAT'S THAT'S REFLECTED IN THIS MOTION TO AMEND RIGHT NOW.

SO SAY THAT AGAIN THAT'S NOT IN THERE. YOU CALL YOU WANT TO AMEND IT TO MAKE IT RETROACTIVE IF LIKE THREE YEARS OR TEN YEARS DIFFERENT PERIODS LAST YEAR WE SAID WE'LL COME BACK WITH DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FOR YOU AND WE'VE DRAFTED THAT LANGUAGE FOR YOU BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO AMEND TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE BUT YOU STILL HAVE IN THE CURRENT VERSION YOU CAN APPEAL IT PROSPECTIVE GOING FORWARD YOU'VE GOT THAT FLEXIBILITY IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO THE DOGS HAVE BEEN A JUDGE DANGEROUS PRIOR TO ADOPT IN THAT HERE TONIGHT YOU NEED TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT TO MAKE IT RETROACTIVE TO ALLOW THEM TO AFTER ONE YEAR PERIOD APPEAL FOR RECONSIDERATION TO THE MAGISTRATE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING COMING BACK WITH THAT AMENDMENT FOR US TO CONSIDER WE'VE DRAFTED THE LANGUAGE AND PRESENTED IT TO I THINK COUNCILMAN BARTHOLOMEW,

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AGAIN IF YOU DO IT TONIGHT YOU'VE GOT GOING FORWARD. YEAH BUT I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY'S VERY CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S. MY ONLY POINT I CAN MAKE IT VERY WELL. DILLON CAN MAKE IT CLEAR REAL QUICK BUT THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT WAS SENT SIMPLY ADDS TO SECTION 1431 D, 1432 D AND IT ADDS LANGUAGE STATING THAT ANY OWNER WHOSE ANIMAL HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN DETERMINED UNDER ORDINANCE SHALL BE PERMITTED TO MOVE FOR RECONSIDERATION AND AFTER ONE YEAR OF THE DATE OF THAT DETERMINATION AND THAT'S PRIOR TO THE DATE OF ENACTMENT WHICH WE WERE SUSPECTING WOULD BE AUGUST THE 11TH. BUT WHATEVER EFFECTIVE DATE THAT COUNCIL MAY SO CHOOSE THE LANGUAGE INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL TO WHAT THE REASONS WOULD BE THAT A PERSON COULD MAKE THAT APPEAL RETROACTIVELY. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE TO EXIST? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT AVAILABLE FOR US TO CONSIDER IT ? IS IT IS AS THE LANGUAGE WAS WAS JUST STATED IT IS ONLY IT IS FOR ANY REASON IF YOUR DOG HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE DANGEROUS UNDER OUR NETS PREVIOUSLY CAN MOVE FOR RECONSIDERATION UNDER THIS NEW ORDINANCE THAT WOULD GO TO ANIMAL CONTROL AND THEN TO THE MAGISTRATE OR FOR A DIFFERENT LEVEL DIRECTLY TO THE MAGISTRATE.

SO ESSENTIALLY YOU RE ADJUDICATING THE MATTER ADJUDICATING THE WE WOULD ASSIGN A LEVEL MEASURE JUDGE WOULD ASSIGN A LEVEL AND WOULD DECIDE ESSENTIALLY WHETHER OR NOT THAT CLASSIFICATION OF DANGEROUS MISDEMEANOR YOU HAVE TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE SITUATION AND LOOK AT TO SEE IF THE ANIMAL HAS GONE OFF PAROLE OR PROBATION I SUSPECT YES, SIR. I THINK IT WOULD BE A TWO STEP PROCESS AND.

I BELIEVE THAT WOULD TAKE OUT THE NOT THE AMENDMENT. BUT I THINK YOU ALL TOOK IT OUT ALREADY THE ANIMAL CONTROL REVIEWING THAT AND JUST GO DIRECTLY TO MAGISTRATE THAT IS THAT IS STILL IN THERE AS WELL IN THE CURRENT VERSION SO THAT WHAT COULD BE THE SUBJECT OF ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT WAS THE SECOND PART OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD THE WAY IT IS CURRENTLY SET UP IF YOU ARE A LEVEL ONE OR LEVEL TWO WHICH ARE THE LOWER LEVELS OF DANGEROUSNESS UNDER THIS ORDINANCE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PETITION THE ANIMAL OFFICER FOR A REASSESSMENT AND IF THE ANIMAL SERVICES AGREED THAT THE CLASSIFICATION SHOULD BE REMOVED THEN HE OR SHE COULD DO SO UNILATERALLY IF THE SERVICES OFFICER DETERMINED THAT THE DETERMINATION SHOULD REMAIN THEN DOG OWNER COULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPEAL THAT DETERMINATION TO A MAGISTRATE JUDGE EXCEPT FOR IN THE CASE OF A LEVEL THREE ANIMAL WHERE IT'S ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS AND IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT THE REAL QUESTION I IS HAS I THE PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN THIS ANIMAL AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ASKED ANY QUESTIONS OF THE MAGISTRATES OR IF IT WOULD EVEN BE APPROPRIATE.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO IS OPPOSED TO THIS GOING FORWARD OR IS EVERYBODY IN AGREEMENT? IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I NOT HEARD OPPOSITION FROM THOSE I HAVE SPOKEN WITH.

I WILL TELL YOU I WORK CLOSELY WITH ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICERS AND I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE MAGISTRATE BENCH JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING ABOUT ANY ANY FEEDBACK THEY MAY HAVE.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THERE THERE IS SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE WHETHER THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER SHOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION A LEVEL ONE OR TWO ANIMAL OR IF IT SHOULD ALWAYS GO TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT AND THAT IS SUBJECT OF ANOTHER POTENTIAL AMENDMENT THAT WE MAY HAVE OR A MOTION THAT WE THAT REALLY THAT YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A LEVEL ONE OR TWO AND THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER AND THE OWNER DOESN'T LIKE IT, THEY CAN ALWAYS GO TO THE MAGISTRATE AND APPEAL TO EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO GET THERE ANYWAY.

SO IF IT NEEDS TO BE LEVELS OF DANGEROUS DOGS THAT FALL UNDER THIS CATEGORY THAT WHOLE SECTION WAS INSPIRED BY THE DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL SERVICES IN ORDER OFFER RESIDENTS OR OWNERS OF THESE ANIMALS SOME RELIEF BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING A DOG THE PENITENTIARY ACTUALLY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BASED THE SEVERITY LACK OF REALLY DIDN'T MATTER IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER IT BECAME A DANGEROUS DOG AND THERE WERE A LOT OF MITIGATING CIRCUMSTANCES WITH THAT. I MEAN I COULD GIVE YOU ONE RIGHT HERE BUT I WOULD TROUBLE EVERYONE IT I WOULD SOME SOME LEVEL OF RELIEF THERE I IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE BUT NO GO GOVERNMENT REQUESTED FOR THE REASON THAT WE HEARD WAS CONCERN ABOUT OPENING A CAN OF WORMS AND BEING OVERWHELMED BY THE DOGS HAVE BEEN DETERMINED DANGEROUS ALREADY BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A GOVERNMENT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

THEY'RE A BIG NUMBER. I DON'T I DIDN'T REALIZE SO I CAN I PROSECUTE THESE CASES FOR THE CIVIL CASES IN ANIMAL COURT IN MAGISTRATE COURT AND WOULD SAY WE HAVE LESS THAN FIVE I WOULD SAY PER MONTH AS FAR AS HOW MANY HAVE GOTTEN DETERMINED TO BE DANGEROUS OVER THE PAST YEAR ON AVERAGE PERHAPS ONE OR TWO A MONTH. SO THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT

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THANK YOU. THAT HAS TO BE OFF PROPERTY ALMOST OKAY YOU CLARIFY THAT I CAN SUPPORT THE MOTION GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU AND YES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT? YES.

OH YES COUNCILMAN, THIS WAS IN THE AMENDMENT IS THAT A VALID DATE OR SHOULD IT BE A DATE BASED UPON THE ACTUAL APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE? THAT'S THE DATE THE ORDINANCE WILL BE APPROVED. OKAY. BUT CLARIFY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON. THE AMENDMENT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND OR SAYING I ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL I MAY HAVE SORRY I MAY HAVE ONE MORE MOTION TO AMEND. I WANTED TO ASK DYLAN REAL QUICK ACTUALLY I LOST THE I DID SOMETHING ON MY COMPUTER HERE AND LOST IT BUT DO YOU THINK IN YOUR EXPERTIZE IN HANDLING THIS DO YOU THINK IT'S BETTER HAVE THAT LEVEL ONE LEVEL TWO AS IT'S WRITTEN TO GO THROUGH THE ANIMAL OR SHOULD WE PUT EVERYTHING IN THE MATCH RECORD IN MY EXPERIENCE AND WITH MY COUNTY COUNTY ATTORNEY HAT ON HERE I WORRY ABOUT THE LIABILITY ANGLE THERE IS IF AN ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER WERE TO DETERMINE THAT THE ANIMAL WERE NO LONGER DANGEROUS AND DID IT TO DO THAT UNILATERALLY WITHOUT COMING THROUGH A MAGISTRATE COURT AND HAVING A COURT ORDER BECAUSE AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER THAT HAS TAKEN AN ACTION THAT IS TECHNICALLY IN OPPOSITION TO A COURT ORDER AND THAT COULD IT COULD ARGUABLY LEAD A LIABILITY SECTION. SO I LEAN TOWARDS THE AMENDMENT THAT THAT PUTS IT IN MATCH THE COURT ALL THE TIME IN PRACTICE YES WE COULD INSTRUCT THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICERS TO END UP IN MAGISTRATE COURT IF THEY ARE IF IT'S A CLOSE CASE BUT THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS I WOULD FAVOR AMENDING THE ORDINANCE IN THE WAY THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED. DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A WRITTEN BREAKDOWN OF WHAT YOU SENT ME EARLIER I DO ON MY I CAN GET IT SAME ON MY COMPUTER AS WELL YES IT DOES GIVE YOU A LITTLE IT IS SO IT WAS IT WAS SIMPLY TOO YES TO BE A SECOND AMENDMENT. OKAY SO SO YES IT WAS ALSO TWO SUBSECTION D SO IS 1432 D AND THERE WERE SOME STRIKE THREES SO IT WOULD WE WOULD REMOVE THE LANGUAGE STATING THAT THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER DETERMINES THAT THE CLASSIFICATION AND RESTRICTIONS SHOULD STAND AND WE WOULD STRIKE THROUGH THAT AND JUST LEAVE THE LAST LANGUAGE OF THE DETERMINATION TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT IN THE MIDDLE AND THEN WE WOULD CONSISTENTLY DO AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER PLACE WHERE THAT WAS REFERENCED BUT YES WE WOULD JUST REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER REVISITING THAT CLASSIFICATION WITHIN SUBSECTION D AND MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY OFFER ANOTHER MOTION TO AMEND SECTION 1432 D BY REMOVING ALL MENTION OF THE ANIMAL OFFICER BEING ABLE TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION OR AND

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THE OWNER MAY APPEAL THE DETERMINATION TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT THAT LANGUAGE WOULD BE REMOVED AND ALSO REMOVE THE IN HERE WHICH IS COMPRISED OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICERS DETERMINATION IF ON APPEALED OR THE MAGISTRATE COURT'S ORDER IF APPEALED SO COMPLETELY MOVING THAT AND THE PREVIOUS SENTENCE AS DESCRIBED AND REMOVING THE OTHER THE FIRST PART OF THE SENTENCE ANIMAL SERVICE OFFICER AND LEAVING IT LEAVING THE MAGISTRATE COURT MEANING THE APPLICABLE PARTY I HOPE THAT'S CLEAR ENOUGH IN THE VERSION. YEAH SOUNDS GOOD.

OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION WE HAVE A AMENDMENT. WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT YEAR.

MADAM CHAIRMAN COULD COULD THE AUTHOR OF THE MOTION CAN EXPLAIN EXACTLY HE'S DOING YES.

SORRY I HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A WRITTEN FORMAT HERE SO I APOLOGIZE I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ADJUSTED WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED RATHER THAN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER BEING ABLE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OF A PREVIOUSLY DANGEROUS ANIMAL THE THE OWNER OF THAT WOULD HAVE TO PETITION THE COURT AND HAVE IT BE IN THE MAGISTRATE COURT.

SO INSTEAD OF IT BEING A STAFF LEVEL DECISION IT WOULD BE HER TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT AND ALLOW DUE PROCESS TO GO ON THAT ROUTE TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT LEVEL.

YEAH REGARDLESS OF THE LEVEL IT WOULD JUST EVERYTHING WOULD GO TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT VIA PETITION AND DEAL WITH THE LIABILITY THAT WITH THE LIABILITY YOU TALKED ABOUT THE RIGHT TO LEAVE SO YES YEAH GO AHEAD AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY IT.

YES. OKAY. I WILL MAKE SURE.

OKAY SIR. NO, WE HAVE A MOTION AN AMENDMENT.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO SECOND SECOND? BUT COUNCILMAN MCGOWAN, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS AMENDMENT? YES, WE HAVE DID YOU HAVE NO MY SECOND IT THAT'S FINE. OH I DON'T THINK COUNCILMAN GARLAND BEAT YOU TO IT.

ALL RIGHT THAT'S OKAY HE'S SPEAK WHAT ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION REGARDING AMENDMENT ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS? NO.

ALL RIGHT. SO THIS AMENDMENT PASSES NOW WE'RE BACK THE ORIGINAL SAME MOTION AS AMENDED. IT'S BEEN IN MOTION TWICE. IT'S BEEN AMENDED TWICE A COMMENT I MEAN I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BUT THERE IS A PORTION OF THIS THAT MAKES ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT FARMERS WHO HAVE CATTLE, YOU KNOW, 100 HEAD OF CATTLE OR 500 CHICKENS OR 20 PIGS NOW THAT WE PUT A BURDEN ON THEM IF THERE IS AND AGAIN WE HAVE IN THERE ABOUT THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT HOWEVER WITH AS MANY HURRICANES AS WE GET AND EVACUATIONS THAT WE GET, I HOPE THAT THAT WE ARE VERY LENIENT WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, FARMERS AND WHAT THEY'VE GOT AND THE THE ANIMALS THEY HAVE. I MEAN THEY DON'T GRAZE ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY HATE THEM.

THEY RAISE THEM CAUSE THEY LOVE SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO ABANDON THEM.

SO AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT COVER THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY EACH OFFENSE IS IS ONE LIVESTOCK. SO YOU'RE TALKING IF SOMEONE HAS 100 HEAD OF CATTLE AND THEY LEAVE THEM THEY COULD BE FINED 100 TIMES FOR EACH EACH OR IF THEY HAVE IT SAYS INVERTEBRATE OR VERTEBRATE. SO THAT MEANS THAT CHICKENS IF THEY HAVE 100 CHICKENS THEY LEAVE THE CHICKENS BEHIND THEY COULD BE FINED. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT IS NOT SPELLED OUT. I CAN'T THINK OF ANY LANGUAGE THAT I WANT TO CHANGE BUT AGAIN THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME WITH WITH THIS AUDIENCE.

YES, SIR. WE VERY CLOSELY WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM CLEMSON UNIVERSITY AND THE FARM BUREAU WE HAD WE HELD A STAKEHOLDERS AND BROUGHT THEM IN THE ROOM BEFORE THIS EVER CAME FORWARD TO COUNCIL AND THE SECTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ABANDONMENT AND THAT PREVIOUSLY WAS DIFFICULT FOR FARMERS WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF CATTLE OR LIVESTOCK OF ANY KIND TO TO MANAGE. SO WE ADDRESSED THAT DIRECTLY WITH WHAT THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND MADE SURE THAT THE LANGUAGE IS APPROPRIATE AND THEY AGREED TO IT BEFORE IT EVER CAME TO COMMITTEE. THEY WERE QUITE PLEASED WITH THE LANGUAGE THEY HAVE AND OF COURSE OUR ANIMAL SERVICES ARE ALWAYS MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK ALONG WITH OUR RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT THEM IN ANY WAY THEY NEED, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS JUST TO FOLLOW UP AND GENTLE BECAUSE THE FARM BUREAU BASICALLY BROUGHT THAT FORWARD AND I THINK BOTH VICE CHAIRMAN AND THE CHAIRMAN ATTENDED THE FARM BUREAU BANQUET WHEN THERE WAS TO THEM OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEY WERE AT THE MEETING AND THEY THEY SORT OF ENDORSED MOVING FORWARD AND I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE FARM BUREAU AND THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT ALLOW THEM SOME SPECIAL PRIVILEGE OF GETTING BACK IN AFTER A

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YEAH, THAT'S ONE ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS WORKING WITH WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SEEING IF WE COULD ESSENTIALLY PROCURE SOME REENTRY PASSES FOR THEM THAT DID NOT WORK FOR US BUT WE DID FIND AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD ALLOW ALLOW THOSE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH NOT LARGE NUMBERS OF ANIMALS TO WORK ALONGSIDE WITH OUR LARGE ANIMAL RESCUE. AND SHOULD THEY BECOME MEMBERS OF THAT AND HAVE EFFECTIVELY A PLAN, THEN THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE SOME OF THAT REENTRY CAPABILITY THAT COMES ALONG WITH MEMBERSHIP TO THAT ORGANIZATION. SO WE FOUND A WAY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM AGAIN WE WE MET WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP IN ORDER TO FIND A COMPROMISE THAT WAS EFFICIENT FOR THEM AS WELL AS COUNTY AND ULTIMATELY PROTECTS THE ANIMALS IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE RIGHT IN THE KEY WAS BASICALLY NOT BEING ABLE TO EVACUATE ALL THOSE ANIMALS EXCEPT FOR THAT PRIZED BULL THAT BULL BUT KNOWING THAT THERE IS A PROCEDURE THAT IS LONG AS YOU DON'T ENCLOSE THEM THEY HAD THE FREEDOM TO TO AROUND ANIMALS HAVE A WAY OF OF PROTECTING THEMSELVES YEAH THANK YOU THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORIGINAL MOTION THE TWO AMENDMENTS? NOW TERRY, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO IT AND THE STAFF FOR DOING ALL THIS WORK. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY THANKS THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME AND I THINK WE HAVE A VERY RESPONSE BACK TO PEOPLE LIKE FARM BUREAU AND OTHERS. THIS ORDINANCE WILL PROBABLY BE ADOPTED BY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TOO AS WELL I THINK I REMEMBER YOU SAYING YES MA'AM ARE THE AMENDMENTS YES.

SOME OF THE MUNICIPALITIES REALLY KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE WAY THAT THEY ADOPTED PREVIOUSLY. HOWEVER, IT IS UP TO THOSE MUNICIPALITIES CONTINUE TO ADOPT THAT AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES ACTUALLY GOT A MESSAGE FROM THE CITY OF YOU FOR A FEW MINUTES AGO. I TOLD THEM I CALL THEM IN THE MORNING AND WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT IF THE MUNICIPALITY WANTS TO DO PRESENTATIONS OR COME AND TALK SOME MORE WE'LL DO THOSE THINGS FOR THEM AS WELL.

I MEAN I THINK MANY OF US IN MS. POLITICS HAVE RECEIVED ABOUT PEST OF ROOSTERS IN THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT OR SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENT. THIS ADDRESSES IT IN A IN A VERY EXCELLENT WAY TO THANK YOU IT GIVES THEM AN AVENUE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I HAVE VISITED A HOME LOOKING FOR A A ROOSTER OURSELVES. WE SURE HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS IN THE IN THE CITY, RIGHT? IT WAS JUST IN THE IT WAS PRETTY CHICKEN. I COULDN'T TELL IF IT WAS A MALE OR FEMALE. BUT YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING THERE.

OKAY. SO I GREW UP ON A FARM. ALL RIGHT.

SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS AND WITH THE TWO AMENDMENTS BY SHOW OF HANDS I I IT IS.

[17. 2025/39 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF HOLLY HILL ROAD UTILITY, DRAINAGE, SIGNAGE, AND ACCESS EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR HOLLY HILL ROAD LOCATED IN BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP OFF NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD (PUBLIC HEARING)]

MOVING ON TO NUMBER 17. THIS IS 2020 539 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF HOLLY HILL ROAD UTILITY DRAINAGE SIGNAGE AND ACCESS EASEMENT AGREEMENT FOR HOLLY HILL ROAD LOCATED IN BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP OFF OF NEW RIVERSIDE ROAD.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING THE VOTE AT PUBLIC FACILITIES WAS JUNE 16, 2020 5820.

THE VOTE AT FIRST READING WAS JUNE 23RD 2025 11 ZERO SO IS NOW OPEN FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE NEED A MOTION BEFORE WE DO THE PUBLIC HEARING I'LL MAKE FOR SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LAWSON AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BROWN ALL IN FAVOR? NO, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST US RIGHT. SO NOW IT IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT SAYING? NONE.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED AND THIS TIME WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR BY SHOW OF HANDS. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY

[18. 2025/40 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ABANDONMENT OF AN UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF COFFIN BLUFF ROAD LOCATED OFF FRIPP POINT ROAD ON ST. HELENA ISLAND ROAD (PUBLIC HEARING)]

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SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN THIS AREA THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DRAINAGE PROBLEM AND THE LAST MEETING WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD OUR ENGINEER BASICALLY SAID THIS WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY DRAINAGE PROBLEM. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR THIS RESOLUTION ALL IN FAVOR OF US.

SO WHAT I'M SORRY. WHAT IT'S A MOTION IS WE HAD A MOTION FOR A RESOLUTION.

IT'S A RESOLUTION. OH NO, IT WAS AN ORDINANCE. DID I SAY RESOLUTION ALL RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH. KEEP ME STRAIGHT.

OKAY. I'M LOOKING AHEAD TO THE RESOLUTIONS.

OKAY. GET HERE. ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AND WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR OF US SIGNIFYING BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. IT ALL RIGHT.

[19. 2025/45 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ENTER INTO A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES FOR THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE OF VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT, AND ASSOCIATED PERIPHERAL DEVICES]

THIS WENT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT JUNE 23RD, 2025 AND IT WAS 7 TO 0. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A RESOLUTION 2025 SLASH 45 WHICH IS ON THE SCREEN. MADAM CHAIRMAN, THE MOTION A SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN PASSMAN AT SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GLOVER. ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ENTERING INTO? YEAH.

YEAH. SHARED SERVICES LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT.

ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR. YOU KNOW THIS WOULD BE SHERIFF AS AS WELL AS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, RIGHT? IT ADMINISTRATOR ANSWER THAT IS THE OTHER IT IS THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WE ALREADY WORK YOU KNOW SERVICE ALL THE SHERIFF'S VEHICLES AS PART OF A COUNTY. RIGHT. BUT THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND? AGENCIES AND AGENCIES.

SO SOME AGENCIES LISTED DO I THINK EVEN RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND THAT IS. ALL RIGHT ANOTHER RESOLUTION 2020 546 RESOLUTION TO REFINE

[20. 2025/46 A RESOLUTION TO REFINE AND FURTHER PRIORITIZE THE PROJECT LIST AND SCOPES WITHIN THE THREE CATEGORIES OF THE 2018 ONE-CENT TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX PROGRAM]

I HEARD COUNCILMAN PASS A MINUTE AND THEN A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MCKELLEN ANY WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS VERSION DOES NOT HAVE THE MIDDLE AND I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE IS THAT ACCURATE YEAH THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT MIDDLE ROAD WAS REMOVED AND WE HAVE BROAD RIVER ROAD OAK THAT'S IN HERE NOW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN OH COUNCILMAN DAWSON.

NO GERARD'S JUST POPPED ON IT. THERE'S NO QUESTION GERARD IS ON IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH. WHILE HE'S ON VACATION I THINK HE GOT BACK EARLY SO WE PUT HIM ONLINE AND. GO. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FRYE? LOOKS ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, ACTUALLY, MADAM CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE. MAY I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE SINCE THE SUNSET MILLER ISN'T REDUCED SCOPE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE IN THAT I GUESS THAT THAT ACCOUNT FOR THOSE FOR THAT PROJECT WAS THE LOW WAY THAT WE RECAST LEAVES OUT ALTOGETHER WE WE THIS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING GOING FORWARD AS I SAID NO TO APPROVAL ADDRESS THE TIMES IMPROVEMENTS OKAY ALL RIGHT THANK YOU SO SO

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ONE QUICK QUESTION, JARED. I'VE BEEN RECEIVED FEW A FEW EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS INDIVIDUALS WITH THE MIDDLE ROAD AND THE SUNSET MILLER ONE WAS FROM AN ATTORNEY THAT WAS TRYING TO BUY THE RIGHT AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHICH I DON'T THINK WAS ACTUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE COUNTY BUT THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER GROUP THAT WAS TRYING TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT IT BEING A SCAM. IS THERE BETTER COMMUNICATION THAT WE CAN HAVE? THEY DIDN'T REALLY THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TACTICS AND THE APPROACH FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION AND ON THE FLOOR WITH ANY RIGHT AWAY SESSIONS ON SUNSET WERE PRE APPROACHED FOR RIGHT AWAY FROM A ARE THAT IS WHAT THE COUNTY SOMETIMES WHAT WE'VE SEEN ON OTHER PROJECTS THIS ONE THERE IS A PROJECT NOW THAT IS COMING SERVED SEPARATED EVACUATED SO THAT THEY CAN HELP WITH THIS PARTICULAR IS WE HAD NOT ANY BY LATE ACQUISITION WORK ON THIS SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE NOT COUNTY CENTERS NOW IF ANYBODY HAS HAD THIS HAPPEN THANK YOU I THINK I THINK THAT'S A GOOD I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF SCAMMING HAPPENING AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

I MEAN DR. HILL, YOU BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN APPROACHED TO PURCHASE ROADWAYS AND THEY'RE NOT SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE THE PUBLIC SOMEHOW TO SEE YOU KNOW, IF WE DID ANY RIGHT AWAY CHECK THE COUNTY WEB PAGE OR SOMETHING SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW THAT IS NOT THE COUNTY SOME ROADS ARE UNDER OUR UNDERWRITER ACQUISITION.

YES SO WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY ON OUR OWN IN ANY WEBSITE WHERE THE STATUS OF THE PROBLEM IS SO THAT DOES NOT SAY RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION WE ARE DEFINITIVELY TAKING TO NIGHT THESE ARE THE ONLY ROADS THAT WILL MATTER RIGHT AWAY. SO THE IDEA IS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT

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WHEN I GET HERE AND WE HAVE TO DO THE RIGOROUSLY AND THEN IF WE THE PROCESS YOU KNOW THAT'S THE ADVICE I COULD GIVE THAT PERSON AT THE TIME WAS THAT IF SOMEBODY IS AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO GET YOU TO DO SOMETHING JUST DON'T DO IT. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS OUT THERE FAIRLY THAT ARE ILLEGALLY DOING THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE AND PROFESSIONAL SO YEAH, I HATE TO SEE PEOPLE GETTING TAKEN BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY'RE GOING TO BLAME COUNCIL WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. THANK YOU.

OKAY WE'RE. ON ITEM NUMBER 21 IT IS 5 MINUTES TO EIGHT.

MADAM CHAIR, AT THIS TIME I'D MAKE A MOTION EXTEND OUR MEETING BEYOND THE 8:00 TIME FRAME. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY BARTHOLOMEW.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO EXTEND BEYOND 8:00 A SECOND? MADAM CHAIRMAN SAID I'M TALKING TOO MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GLOVER.

ALL IN OF EXTENDING PAST 8:00. YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S UNANIMOUS. WELL I DON'T THINK COUNCILMAN PARLIAMENT VOTED FOR IT. HE DID NOT VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

[21. 2025/47 A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE US 278 PROJECT AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO APPLY FOR A LARGE BRIDGE PROJECT GRANT THROUGH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION'S BRIDGE INVESTMENT PROGRAM (BIP) ]

OKAY. ITEM 2120 25 SIZE 47 IS A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF US TO 78 PROJECT AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO APPLY FOR A LARGE BRIDGE PROJECT GRANT THROUGH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION'S BRIDGE INVESTMENT PROGRAM OR AP PHYSICAL IMPACT IF AWARDED THE FEDERAL GRANT WOULD FULLY FUND THE REMAINING COSTS OF THE ORIGINALLY SCOPE PROJECT. ANY POTENTIAL COST OVERRUNS WOULD FOLLOW THE PREVIOUS AGREED UPON THREE PRO-RATA COST SHARING STRUCTURE THE COUNTY AND SOUTH CAROLINA DOT DO WE HAVE A MOTION REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION SO MOVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MCGOWAN DO WE HAVE A SECOND NOW? SO I DON'T HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LARSON DISCUSSION QUESTIONS YES COUNCILMAN YES, JARED GOING TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT TOOK PLACE THAT LAST MINUTE WITH JUSTIN POWELL AND THE D.O.T. OR BOTH OR LEADERS I'D LISTEN EITHER WAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY THAT'S LISTENING IN AND FOLKS THAT ARE HERE GET AN IDEA WHAT HAPPENED AND I'LL LET JARED KIND OF CLARIFY A BIT THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE WORKSHOP THAT SECRETARY POWELL HAD CONTACTED US BEGINNING OF JUNE TIMEFRAME THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A LARGE BRIDGE GRANT.

OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD TAKE NCDOT TO PRIORITIZE THIS PROJECT AND PUT IT FORTH IS FOR THE ENTIRE STATE SO HE COMMUNICATED THAT TO US. WE PRESENTED THIS AT LEAST A DISCUSSION AT THE WORKSHOP TO THE LAST MEETING AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING YOU FORWARD FOR YOU ALSO CONSIDERATION. BUT WE DO HAVE A DEADLINE I BELIEVE ON AUGUST 1ST WHERE THE APPLICATION HAS TO BE SUBMITTED TO MEET FEDERAL DEADLINE AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT 100% CERTAINTY THERE'S PROBABLY 10% CERTAINTY BE TALKED TO SECRETARY POWELL SOMEWHERE IN THAT BALLPARK. I MEAN WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST THE ENTIRE ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR FOR THIS THESE FINE SO THIS LEAST GETS US IN THE DOOR FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE FEDERAL

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HOW DO WE YOU SAY IT'S ABOUT A 10% PROBABILITY. HOW DO WE PROTECT THE WORK THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN DID TO GET THAT THREE LANE BRIDGE? THIS IS FOCUSING ON THE VERY LARGE BRIDGE. YEAH. SO I THINK JARED SOME IF WE SAID SOME INFORMATION OUT EARLIER BUT THESE PROJECTS WILL PROCEED IN PARALLEL SO TO YOUR QUESTION WE WILL CONTINUE AND IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT THEN THE THREE LANE BRIDGE WOULD CONTINUE. MAYBE YOU CAN ADD SOME DETAIL THAT HEARD.

YES SIR THIS HAPPENS JUST TO BE IF THIS GRANT CAME AVAILABLE LAST YEAR WE WEREN'T POSITIONED READY FOR THIS. IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE RIGHT TIME BOTH FOR US, THE PROJECT AND THE TEAM SO DUTY THERE IS APPARENTLY A PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT THE SAFETY THAT EXISTED IN MATTHEW CREEK IF THIS EXTENDED THE BRIDGE PROJECT WHERE IT WOULD TAKE LONGER FOR THEM TO DELIVER A REPLACEMENT TO THAT BRIDGE THE TEAM WOULD NOT BE INTERESTED THAT'S THEIR HIGHEST PRIORITY IS THE SAFETY OF THAT BRIDGE AND JUST COINCIDES THAT THE TIMING OF THIS BRAND AND THE TIMING OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROJECT THAT THEY'RE ON PARALLEL TRACKS AND THE REASON IN THE BACKGROUND THAT IS THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS. ON THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED PROJECT SIX LANE BRIDGE WE'RE AT ABOUT A 30 OR 40% DESIGN OVERALL. THE LAST THING THAT WAS NEEDED TO FINALIZE THE FUNDING IN THE FUNDS THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT WAS THE FUNDING ELEMENT AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE THE OTHER $9 MILLION. SO WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED THE THREE NEW ROUTES TO THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

IT'S ROUGHLY 10% IS IT'S IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION AS DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE WORKING AROUND ARE STILL MISSING THE WATER LINE AND ACCESS TO BEING ON.

AND SO OVER THE NEXT 6 TO 9 MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WORK ON A COMPLETELY NEW ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT AND IMPROVE THE DESIGN OF 30 OR 40%.

THAT'S TYPICALLY WE CLOSE OUT ENVIRONMENTAL SO WE ENVISION THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT SAME PERIOD OF TIME TO GET THIS NEW DRILLING PROJECT TO THE SAME PRIORITY DESIGN THAT A SIX LANE PROJECT PARTY SITTING AT AND THEN WE'RE THINKING THAT IF WE PUT IN AN AUGUST THAT WE WOULD HEAR SOME IDENTIFICATION BY THE END OF THE YEAR BUT WE KIND OF PASSED THE FIRST TRANCHE AND IT WAS A FULL APPROVAL OF THAT THAT'S PREVIOUS SUM OF NEXT YEAR WHICH WOULD PUT US IN LINE WITH THE FINAL 30% 40% DESIGN OF THE THREE LANGUAGE AT THAT TIME IF WE DID A THE FROM THE GRANT OPPORTUNITY THERE WERE HOWEVER THEY WERE THE ALONG WITH OR THREE LANE PROJECT EXECUTED THE SAME SCALE AS APPROVE STILL TO THE LETTER OF THE SIX LANGUAGE IF WE GET A NEW IF WE MOVE FORWARD AND GET OVER WE DISCONTINUE THE SIX LANE PROJECT AND WE CONTINUE WITH THE THREE LANE VIEW THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS IN DESIGN. GERARDO LISTEN AGAIN YOU WITH A YES VOTE WE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE LARGER BRIDGE, CORRECT? NO.

YES. THAT WOULD GIVE US THE ADMINISTRATOR THE PERMISSION OR AUTHORITY TO APPLY FOR THIS GRANT AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GRANT TWO PROJECTS ON PARALLEL . I MEAN BRIDGES WOULD BE SITTING STILL JUST WAITING ON GRANT APPROVAL WHILE A THREE LANE BRIDGE CATCHES UP TO THE SIX LANE DESIGN AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN THE SPRING OR SUMMER OF NEXT YEAR THERE WOULD BE A DECISION MADE THAT THEY WILL HEAR BACK FROM THE GRANT ALWAYS PROJECT AS IT IS FOR IT. OKAY, LET'S GO TO NEXT AND MR.

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LET'S SAY WE GET THE APPROVAL FOR THE GRANT NEXT YEAR. DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THAT BRIDGE? IT DOESN'T TAKE ALL THE WAY DONE WRITTEN.

THE RESOLUTION IS WE'VE AUTHORIZED ME TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT WE HAVE AUTHORIZED ME TO ACCEPT IT SO WE WOULD STILL COME BACK TO YOU ALL TO ACCEPT THE GRANT.

BUT ASSUMING COUNCIL ACCEPTS THE GRANT IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FULL PROJECT.

YES SIR. THE ONLY I WANT TO TRY TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF AND I THINK IT GOES BACK TO MS.. LAMARCA AND WHAT SHE SAID WE HAD A WE HAD 2024 REFERENDUM AND I KNOW IT WAS SPLIT ON IN MY DISTRICT ON HILTON HEAD. SO I'M GETTING SOME PEOPLE THAT EITHER VOTE OR NOT VOTE FOR ME UPSET. BUT MY POINT IS WE ALL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATION AND I THINK THE 11 TO 14000 SIGNATURES AGAINST THE MONOLITHIC GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE BIG THING I BELIEVE THE REFERENDUM YOU KNOW, I THINK WE OUGHT TO YOU KNOW, CONSIDER WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. AND I THINK WITH OUR WORKSHOP WITH TOWN WE HEARD FROM THE MAYOR, WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE FROM PEOPLE YOU KNOW, BIGGER IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER. SO AGAIN LET'S LET'S WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM KENDRICK MEEK. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE AT THIS TIME OF YEAR A LOT OF THE FEDERAL AGENCIES ARE CONTEMPLATING THE END OF THEIR FISCAL YEAR WHICH OCCURS ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY HAS DISCOVERED SOME HONEY IN THE POT THAT THEY HAVEN'T YET DECIDED WHAT TO DO WITH AND THEY'VE BEEN IMPRESSED BY THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE HERE AND THEY'VE PUT A VERY SHORT DEADLINE.

YOUR APPLICATION OF AUGUST FIRST BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO APPROPRIATE THIS MONEY BY SEPTEMBER 30TH THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND IT IT MUST BE APPROPRIATED.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ACT ON YOUR APPLICATION A LOT FASTER EVERYBODY EXPECTS BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T GET THIS MONEY APPROPRIATED BY SEPTEMBER 30TH THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE IT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE BECAUSE THEY'LL NEVER GET THEIR BUDGET NEXT YEAR IF THEY CAN'T IF HAVE TO GIVE MONEY BACK EVERYONE FROWNS ON THAT WHETHER THAT'S GOOD OR BAD I MAKE NO JUDGMENT. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE WAY IT OPERATES SO I HAVE A FEELING WE'RE GOING TO GET A FEEDBACK ON THIS VERY, VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE MONEY HAS TO BE APPROPRIATED BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

WE BETTER GET MOVING. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT 10% CHANCE THAT WE WOULD GET TO GRANT I THAT'S THAT'S JUST A BALLPARK OF WHAT WHEN WE DISCUSS WITH THE SECRETARY BUT HE REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN PUT FORTH WHERE THEY ARE IN TERMS OF MATURITY AND YOU KNOW IS THIS A GOOD INVESTMENT AND SO THAT'LL BE A DECISION THAT GETS MADE A FEDERAL HIGHWAY AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. OKAY.

ANY OTHER WOMAN JUST? YEAH. JUST ONE MORE THING.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M HAPPY AT THE 11TH HOUR. FEDERAL FUNDS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME. LOOK WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. THE INCREDIBLE WORK THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY DID TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH RESOLUTION. WE AT THE 11TH HOUR HAVE THE ABILITY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS BEFORE THEY LOSE THEM AND TAKE OUT THE THE THE WORKING TOGETHER AND WHAT WE CAME UP WITH FOR YOU KNOW I JUST THINK WE GOT TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT THIS IS TO VOTE TO DO THE APPLICATION. IT'S NOT TO ACCEPT THE MONEY.

OKAY. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

YES, YES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND HAD DISCUSSION. WE'RE READY TO COUNCILMEMBER MCGOWAN YES.

COUNCILMEMBER LAWSON YES. COUNCILMEMBER REED'S I'M GOING TO SAY NO.

COUNCILMEMBER PASSMAN YES. COUNCILMEMBER GLOVER YES. COUNCILMEMBER DODSON YES.

COUNCILMEMBER BROWN NO. COUNCILMEMBER BARTHOLOMEW YES. CHAIR HOWARD YES.

THE MOTION PASSES SEVEN TWO OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

[22. 2025/48 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY AND TO PROVIDE FUNDS FROM THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM FUND TO THE OPEN LAND TRUST FOR THE ACQUISITION OF AN INTEREST IN PROPERTY LOCATED IN UNINCORPORATED JASPER COUNTY KNOWN AS THE CHELSEA TRACTS (TMS # 081-00-02-001, 081-00-02-008 AND 081-00-02-009) FOR THE ACQUISITION OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, NOT TO EXCEED THE REQUESTED AMOUNT ($6,000,000), TO BE PAID BACK TO THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAM WITHIN TWELVE MONTHS]

AND THEN THERE'S A LIST ALL THE PROPERTY NUMBERS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT NOT TO EXCEED THE REQUESTED AMOUNT $6 MILLION TO BE PAID BACK TO THE GREEN SPACE

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GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. IT'S NICE TO BE DOWN HERE FROM CHARLESTON I AM MIKE MCSHANE JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M A RESIDENT OF CHARLESTON COUNTY. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIRMAN, JUST TO IDENTIFY BECAUSE I THINK IT DISPLAYS REALLY THE UNIQUENESS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT YOU'RE ABOUT TO ON IN MY VIEW TAKING A HISTORIC ACTION HERE YOU'RE GOING TO ONCE AGAIN PUT MONEY FROM THIS INTO ANOTHER COUNTY BUT YOU'RE DOING IN A FASHION THAT YOU'VE NOT DONE BEFORE WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY TO ADVANCE THIS TO ALLOW A NONPROFIT WHO TOOK THE CHALLENGE COURAGE TO BORROW $28 MILLION TO HELP THEM REDUCE THAT DEBT AT TODAY'S RATES THAT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY GIFT THAT THAT ORGANIZATION THE NATURE IS GIVEN TO THIS AREA BY TAKING THAT CHALLENGE TODAY WE HAVE BOTH OF COURSE KATE SCHAFER FROM OPEN LAND TRUST IS HERE.

DAVID BISHOP FROM THE NATURE CONSERVANCY AND ALSO LIEUTENANT COLONEL DAVID TRAILL AND MARY RYAN KRUEGER FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. THEREFORE AT THE MARINE CORPS AIR STATION. DAVID IS THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL EXTERNAL RELATIONS AND MARY RYAN IS THE COMMUNITY PLAN'S LIAISON OFFICER AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN VERY COLLABORATIVE IN WORKING WITH YOUR GREEN COMMUNITY AND CONSERVATION IN GENERAL.

I ALSO KNOW THAT I BELIEVE ADMINISTRATOR ANDY FULGHUM IS STILL HERE FROM JASPER COUNTY AND I THINK CHAIRMAN KIP IS STILL HERE. SO YES IT IS GOOD TO HAVE HIM HERE AS WELL. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT AS I SAID TO TAKE THIS HISTORIC EFFORT TO PROTECT THIS 2700 PLUS ACRES THAT COULD HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN ANNEXED AND TURN IT INTO SEVERAL THOUSAND UNITS THAT ALTHOUGH MAY BE IN JASPER COUNTY, THOSE EFFECTS AND IMPACTS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY ON COUNTY. THAT'S REALLY WHY THE WISDOM OF WHAT YOU'VE DECIDED TO DO TO ALLOW THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OCCUR AND FOR FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NATURE TO ADVANCE THIS $6 MILLION BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OF TWO APPLICATIONS COMING IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THIS PROJECT. ONE WILL BE COMING FORTH COMING FOR MONEY. YOU WILL LEAVE IN THE DIRT THERE PARALLEL WHAT'S THE STATE IS GOING TO BE DOING AND JASPER COUNTY BE DOING. JASPER COUNTY IS COMMITTED TO TRYING TO HAVE THEIR PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING BY THE FALL OPEN TRUST WILL BE MAKING THEIR APPLICATION TO THE STATE THIS MONTH FOR THE BOARD THAT I ALSO SERVE ON TO TAKE CONSIDERATION IN SEPTEMBER AND YOU WILL BE SEEING A SECOND PROJECT FOR WHAT WOULD BE YOUR NORMAL GREENSPACE GRANT COMING FORWARD MOST LIKELY IN THAT SAME SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME.

THE PLAN IS THAT THIS IS A $34 MILLION PIECE OF PROPERTY THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IS ACQUIRED FOR 32 MILLION OF WHICH YOU WILL PARTICIPATE IN HELPING PAY FOR THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT THE PERMANENT DOCUMENT THAT WILL BE THERE REGARDLESS WHO THE ULTIMATE OWNER IS.

I'M GOING TO COME TO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT THE PLAN WOULD BE FOR THE STATE COUNTY, JASPER AND D.O.D. TO PAY FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE ESTIMATED TO BE AROUND $12 MILLION FOR THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT VALUE BASED ON THE $34 MILLION ACQUISITION THE FORESTRY COMMISSION IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FOREST LEGACY GRANT TO THEN TO TAKE FOR THE AMOUNT THE DELTA TO THEN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THIS TRACK THAT IT IN PERPETUITY WILL REMAIN THE HANDS OF THE STATE FORESTRY COMMISSION AND BE MANAGED AS A STATE FORCE BUT THEN GIVE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO THE PUBLIC AND WHEN YOU KNOW THAT CORRIDOR 462 BETWEEN WHERE CHELSEA IS LOCATED I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD SIERRA ONE THAT

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ALL WOULD HAVE TO OPERATE THERE FOR 62 AND ONE SEVEN. THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY THAT THIS COUNCIL COULD THIS ACTION AND HISTORIC YOU OPEN TO QUESTIONS NOW ABSOLUTELY OKAY MAY YES, SIR MR. MCSHANE FIRST OF ALL, AS I PREPARED FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT READING THIS I HELP BUT THINK OF SOMETHING YOU'VE SAID I THINK EVERY TIME YOU STAND BEFORE US IS HOW DO WE LEVERAGE WHAT WE HAVE TO GET MORE TO PROTECT BOTH OF OUR COUNTIES AND. KUDOS I'M TELLING YOU SOME YOU CEASE TO AMAZE ME AND I MEAN THAT IN A GOOD WAY. I'M A DIFFICULT TO BE PLEASED THIS WAY THE WAY MONEY SPENT IN THIS IS A GREAT WAY AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT JUST IN THE LAST SECOND I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD ARE YOU SAYING MAYBE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT KIND OF INTEREST RATE THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY GET FOR THAT OR I THINK YOU ANSWER THAT SAYING IT'S JUST GOING TO BE OUT OF GREEN SPACE AND IT WOULD BE PENNIES ON WHAT THE IMPACTS WOULD BE I BELIEVE TO THE COUNTY IF THIS WERE TO NOT HAPPEN.

LISTEN WE HAVE A DOUBLE WIN WIN HERE TONIGHT WITH JASPER MR. FULGHUM ANIMAL SERVICES NOW THIS IS GOING BE A THIRD THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH YOU ON TONIGHT.

BUT THANK YOU GUYS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN GLOVER YEAH. JUST TO CLARIFY SOME YOU YOU YOU MENTIONED THE FORESTRY COMMISSION EXPLAINED IT AGAIN TO ME SO THAT THE CURRENT PLAN IS FOR THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IS NOW THE OWNER IS IS COLLABORATING WITH OUR STATE FORESTRY COMMISSION BECAUSE THIS AREA WAS A PRIORITY FOR THE STATE FORESTRY COMMISSION TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY LIKE THIS THIS FITS EVERY ONE OF THEIR INTERESTS. IT WOULD MAKE GREAT SENSE BECAUSE. THERE ARE FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT WILL ALLOW THE FORESTRY COMMISSION TO TAP INTO FORCED LEGACY DOLLARS IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY IN A HIGHLY MANAGED STATE FOR FORESTRY. THAT'S WHY IT'S SUCH A PRIORITY FOR THEM.

IT THEN ALLOW PUBLIC RECREATIONAL ACCESS TO IT BE IT ENTERED INTO A WILDLIFE

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NO THAT'S TO ME THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S GREEDY. I MEAN I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT AT ALL. I'D LOVE TO. I I MR. GLOVER, WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T GET THE STATE FORESTRY COMMISSION CANDIDLY TO COME EVEN TALK TO US ABOUT LAND CONSERVATION. NOW TODAY WE ARE BEATING ON THE DOOR WANTING TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE THE VALUE OF DOING THAT THAT'S ONLY GOING RICH THIS AREA WITH THE OPEN SPACE AND ACCESS TO. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. THERE'S SO MANY BENEFITS TO THIS IN TERMS OF THE FRONTAGE ON ON THE BROAD RIVER FROM A WATER QUALITY STANDPOINT, THE WATER QUANTITY ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S TOO MUCH WATER OR TOO LITTLE WATER, THERE IS RECREATION BENEFITS TO THIS.

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THIS HIGH PRESSURE DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD OCCUR BECAUSE THEY'LL BE THIS PERMANENT REGARDLESS WHO WHO OWNS IT.

IF WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL HAVING THE LOGGERS THE FOREST LEGACY GRANT COME THROUGH TENNESSEE DO LIKE THEY'VE DONE WITH GREGORY AND THERE'S A MARKET FOR THESE TYPE OF PROPERTIES BUT YOU HAVE THE ASSURANCE YOUR MONEY IS GOING INTO THE EASEMENT RIGHT THAT'S IN PERPETUITY THAT WILL ASSURE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT EVER WHATEVER THE EASEMENT ULTIMATELY COMES TO WILL BE VERY LIMITED AND WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS THERE IS HERE THAT'S WHAT THOUGHT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.

SO WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE FORESTRY COMMISSION WAS LIKE WELL GOOD GO AHEAD.

I'M THROUGH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW PROPERTIES IN OUR PART OF THE STATE THAT THEY WOULD THAT IS CORRECT WHICH IS WHY THIS THIS ADDRESSES WHY THIS HAS BEEN A PRIORITY FOR THE FORESTRY COMMISSION. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE HAVE THE VOTE? I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.

I BELIEVE YOU SAID LAST TIME WHEN YOU CAME OUT TO TALK ABOUT THIS THAT WE'LL GET THE $6 MILLION BACK OR AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? ARE THIS IS WHAT I AM NOT GOING TO SEE. YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AN ACTION TONIGHT ON A REIMBURSABLE GRANT . OKAY. YOU'LL TAKE ANOTHER ACTION LATER THIS WHEN I COME IN WITH AN APPLICATION FOR WHAT YOU WILL LEAVE IN THE IN THE PROJECT. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE TWO STEPS ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY TONIGHT IS THE REIMBURSABLE THIS FALL WILL BE ASKING FOR WHAT I THINK ESTIMATED WILL BE $2 MILLION FOR $2 MILLION THAT YOU WILL LEAVE THERE IN IN THE MONEY THIS 6 MILLION WILL COME BACK CONFIDENCE IT WILL COME BACK OKAY.

OKAY AND ULTIMATELY WHAT THAT MEANS HAVE LEFT $2 MILLION ON A $34 MILLION DEAL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO THINK ABOUT IN JASPER COUNTY THEN YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO PROJECT YOU TO PUT $3 MILLION IN THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE TWO PROJECTS IS ABOUT $65 MILLION.

THAT'S 5%. AND IT'S ALSO GREAT THAT JASPER COUNTY WILL BE PUTTING SOME OF THE COUNTY IS CONSIDERED THE ADMINISTRATOR EVEN MADE THAT COMMITMENT AGAIN THIS EVENING TO BE FACILITATING THE RESTORATION AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT MR. FOLGER WAS GOING TO DELIVER ON THAT AND THEN I CAN BRING FULL CONFIDENCE THE STATE IS GOING TO BE DELIVERING THAT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE EQUAL PARTNERS.

YOU'RE IN THIS UNIQUE POSITION TO HELP REDUCE SOME DEBT BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING AN ENGINEER TO GO OUT AND BE THE COURAGE. AS I SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT MAY COME BACK TO US IS A BENEFIT. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTION YES, SIR. MR. MCSHANE THIS TRACKS VERY CLEARLY IN MY OPINION WITH YOUR THEME GREENSPACE TO ACCELERATE CONSERVATION.

AND I THINK THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT STANDS FOR AND I CONGRATULATE YOU AND THAT TEAM THERE FOR DOING THIS I SEE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE NOW I'M ON THE COMMITTEE AND.

IT'S A IT'S A PROGRAM THAT IS FUNCTIONING FULLY TO ACCELERATE THAT CONSERVATION.

SO I OFFER MY CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY THERE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION AND I OFFER THE COMPLIMENTS FRANKLY YOUR COUNTY ATTORNEY BRIAN HUBER HAS BEEN FANTASTIC IN HELPING WORK THROUGH THIS NEW YOUR ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TOOK A CONCERN HAS BEEN FANTASTIC AND MARK DAVIS ON YOUR PLANNING STAFF'S BEEN A BIG HELP TO FACILITATE THIS EVEN THIS CONCEPT YES THIS IS UNIQUE NEW FIRST TIME IN FRONT FRANKLY MOST PLACES ACROSS THE STATE WOULD HAVE BEEN THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SO COMPLICATED WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN IT WOULD MAY NOT EVEN BEEN WORTH TRYING TO PURSUE THIS COUNTY DEMONSTRATES AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN IT'S LEADERSHIP IN THAT REGARD I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY NATIONALLY

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MR. PRESIDENT THANK YOU FOR THE BATHROOM SHE'S SAYING I SHE OKAY IF I MAY MADAM JUST A SHAME WHILE HE'S HERE JUST YES. YES SIR JUST A COUPLE UPDATES. THE GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE WILL MEET THIS FRIDAY AND AFTER FRIDAY WE'LL UPDATE THAT SPREADSHEET THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WILL THEN FORWARD OUT. BUT JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE HERE THERE ARE THREE FEASIBLE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING.

ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN IN FRONT DUE DILIGENCE APPROVAL. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO WE'LL BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION BACK. SO AT SOME POINT WE'LL COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON THESE THREE PROJECTS BUT JUST TO GIVE A SORT OF A A COLOR OF WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IN THE WESTERN REGION WHICH IS AND WILL BE BLUFFTON IS THE BOOK WALTER PEDRO TRACK IN THE SOUTH REGION ON HILTON HEAD IS ACL AND POURQUOI TRUCK AND IN THE EAST IS ACTUALLY A CITY OF FOR WHAT WE CALL THE MESSAGE TRUCK I THINK I'VE SEEN THAT NAME THAT'S NEAR LADIES ISLAND YES.

SO THAT'S IN THE EASTERN REGION. SO THOSE THREE FEE SIMPLE ALL FEE SIMPLE TRUCKS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ON FRIDAY GREEN SPACE COMMITTEE AND THEN COMING IN COME BACK AT SOME POINT THIS FALL. THANK YOU.

WAS THAT COUNCILMEMBER IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? I WANTED THAT I'M GOING TO ASK HIM TO DO THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND. THE NATURE CONSERVANCY FOR STICKING THEIR NECK OUT AGAIN FOR FOR CONSERVATION AND AND PRESERVATION. ALL RIGHT.

[23. REAPPOINTMENT OF SENATOR TOM DAVIS, MICHAEL McSHANE, AND COUNCIL MEMBER LARRY McELYNN TO THE GREEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR A FOUR-YEAR TERM WITH THE EXPIRATION DATE OF JULY 2029.]