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. JUNE 27 A MEETING OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY NORTHERN

[1. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

REGIONAL IMPLEMENTATION COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER AND LIKE TO START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WHEN IT COMES TO PLAY ANYWHERE BECAUSE STATES OF AMERICA THE REPUBLIC STANDS BY NATION UNDER GOD THANK YOU ALL I KNOW NOTIFICATIONS ALL GOING OUT AND I'D LIKE TO WHY

[2. FOIA – PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED, AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.]

DON'T WE START OFF WITH ONE ROUNDTABLE AND THE AUDIENCE GIVE US YOUR NAMES OR YOUR WHO YOU'RE REPRESENTING AT THE SPEAKER COUNTY COMMISSION ALICE HOWARD DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR AND TAKE OUR COUNTY SCHOOL LIKE SAY MEMBER SCOTT MASKELL DIFFERENT CITY MANAGER BUT I'M THE PROXY FOR OUR PRODUCTS WE'RE PLAYING BLUE COLLAR TOWN OF PORT ROYAL 16 TOWN MANAGER HERE FOR YOUR COVER AND FOR COUNTY COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE DAVID BARTHOLOMEW OF GAS EFFICIENCY RICHARD HATCHER SENIOR PRINCIPAL PLANNER, IRS AND AGE CONSULTANT FOR THE ORDER OF 20 TRANSIT MASTER BRIAN SULLIVAN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE LOCAL TWO REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY SINGLE TEAM OF A.L. STRADER.

I'M LOOKING FOR COUNTY 20 AND THE OTHER 74 COUNTY PLANNING. IT'S OBVIOUS IF YOU ARE A PLANNING PERSON FIRST TIME IN THREE WITH TO SAY HEY I'M JOSEPH, I'M A BETTER ONE WITH THE TOWN SQUARE I'LL JUST WAIT BECAUSE OF CONSERVATION MIKE AND CAROL CRUTCHFIELD IS THE KIND OF SCHOOL DISTRICT AND I MIGHT TELL YOU IT'S THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT MITCHELL I'M ON LINE SAID HE'D BE A BIT SORRY ABOUT THAT NO PROBLEMS. NO PROBLEM THANK YOU. I DIDN'T SEE YOU WHEN YOU STOOD UP.

[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – May 23, 2025]

I NEVER LIKE GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR THE APPROVAL OR COMMENT ON THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 23RD WE TO ACCEPT THEM ALL FROM OUR SECOND ALL OPERATING RIGHT AND RIGHT IN THE STATE OF THE CITY

[4. CITIZEN COMMENTS (Comments are limited to 3 minutes.)]

. AUDIENCE YEAH, THANK YOU. MILLS UNANIMOUS.

THAT'S APPROVAL. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS THIS? MORNING. ANY COMMENTS ONLINE SEEN? I WOULD SAY THAT I'VE GOTTEN SOME LETTERS ASKING FOR A FEW THINGS DURING CITIZENS COMMENTS BUT I WILL SAVE THOSE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. SO ON THE FUTURE AGENDA AND MAYBE SOME DISCUSSION THERE BUT

[5. UPDATE ON NORTHERN BEAUFORT TRANSIT MASTER PLAN – RACHEL HATCHER, RS&H]

EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. RACHEL HATCHER I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE TRASH MASTER PLAN. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH COMMUNITY AND WITH YOUR VERY QUALIFIED AND AMAZING TO MOVE THROUGH IDENTIFICATION OF TRANSIT NEEDS SOLUTIONS NORTH OF THE BROAD SO I'M PROVIDING AN UPDATE FOR YOU ALL TODAY MAKE SURE I GET SO I'D LIKE TO BE THERE WE GO ALL RIGHT. SO TODAY I'M GOING TO PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH A STUDY OVERVIEW. THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT THE STUDY YET PROVIDE SOME ABOUT WHAT OUR MISSION WAS, WHAT OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE FOR THE STUDY, HOW WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THOSE THUS FAR WITH PHASE KEY FINDINGS AND HAVE YOU GRABBED A FACT SHEET ON THE WAY IN THE ROOM? THAT'S A REALLY SUMMARY OF THE PHASE ONE FINDINGS THAT ARE HELPING US TO THROUGH PHASE TWO.

IT ALSO HELPED US TO IDENTIFY NEEDS AND STRATEGIES TO IDENTIFY AND RECOMMEND SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT HELP TO MEET THOSE NEEDS MOST EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY. THAT WOULD THEN TO SYSTEM RECOMMENDATIONS.

THERE WAS A SYSTEMS RECOMMENDATION EXERCISE WE'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF MY

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TOMMY AND A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE AVAILABLE TO HELP US ACTUALLY SYSTEMS AND IDENTIFY PROS AND CONS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THEN OF COURSE NEXT STEPS AND DISCUSSION SO I KNOW THIS WON'T BE NEW INFORMATION TO YOU ALL BECAUSE YOUR MISSION HERE IS TO HELP IMPLEMENT IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS AREA OF THE REGION. BUT AS PART OF THE U.S. CENSUS BUREAU COUNT THIS AREA WAS IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA OF MAJOR GROWTH NOT ONLY SENSE PREVIOUS CENSUS COUNT BUT ALSO LOOKING TO THE FUTURE THAT THAT GROWTH GOING TO CONTINUE.

SO YOUR URBANIZED AREA EXPANDED AND IN THE TRANSIT WORLD THAT DISTINCTION OF URBAN VERSUS RURAL ACTUALLY A LINE ON THE MAP SO ONCE YOU BECOME AN TERRITORY IT OPENS UP YOUR OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW FUNDING TYPES, NEW TRANSIT RESOURCES AND IT ACTUALLY DICTATES WHAT TYPE OF TRANSIT YOU CAN PROVIDE. AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT ONCE YOU BECOME A DESIGNATED URBANIZED AREA THAT YOU AS A GOOD STEWARD OF THOSE NEW RESOURCES WORK WITH THE FEDERAL TRANSIT AND D.O.T. TO PLAN FOR THOSE RESOURCES.

WHAT WE LIKE TO SAY IS YOU GOT TOO BIG NOT TO PLAN. SO THE TRANSIT MASTER PLAN WORKS TO DEFINE YOUR GOALS BECAUSE EACH COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY TRANSIT IS A TOOL. IT'S A TOOL THAT HELPS YOU TO SOLVE WHATEVER THOSE MISSIONS OBJECTIVES AND GOALS ARE TO CREATE A COMMUNITY PROFILE THAT WE CAN BEST UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE SOMEONE WHO HAS LIMITED TO A VEHICLE BY CHOICE IS GOING TO HAVE VERY DIFFERENT NEEDS AND PERSPECTIVES COMPARED TO SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS OR RELIABLE ACCESS TO A VEHICLE. SO UNDERSTANDING THE COMMUNITY ,THE VARIOUS PROFILES THAT YOU HAVE AND THEN HELPING TO STRATEGIZE AND UNDERSTAND THE PRIORITY OF EACH OF THOSE SERVICE GROUPS THAT HELPS US TO LEAD TO TRANSIT SERVICE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THOSE IN SOME CASES ARE TOGETHER AND SOMETIMES A CART AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALL OF THAT WITH A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AS WELL AS IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TO BEST LEVERAGE THOSE RESOURCES THAT YOU AS AN URBAN AREA ARE GOING TO RECEIVE. BUT THERE IS ALWAYS A REQUIREMENT EXPECTATION OF LOCAL MATCH SO BEING THE BEST POSSIBLE STEWARDS OF YOUR LOCAL TAX DOLLARS TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN GET AS MUCH BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY AS POSSIBLE. SO BREAKING IT DOWN TO WHAT WE NEED WHY WE NEED IT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THAT I LOVE IT.

I LOVE A GOOD GRAPHIC SO YOU CAN SEE WHO WE ARE HERE OUR MEASURES OF EFFECTIVENESS.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH YOUR EXISTING CONDITIONS INCLUDING REVIEWING OF YOUR PREVIOUS APPLICABLE PLANS THAT YOUR COMMUNITY SET FORTH HELPS US TO IDENTIFY WHAT YOUR OBJECTIVES ARE AS A BROADER COMMUNITY PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT HELP REINFORCE THAT . SO GOING OUT EXTENSIVELY TO THE PUBLIC AND OUR REALLY FANTASTIC STATE MEETING COMING TOGETHER AND SAYING YES WHAT YOU READ IN PLAN IS ACCURATE AND STILL APPLICABLE TO THIS EXERCISE AND THEN ASKING SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC IF THIS PROVIDED WOULD YOU WRITE IT? WHAT ARE YOUR ACTUAL NEEDS? WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO PROVIDE FOR YOU? BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS IS A RIDER DRIVEN EXERCISE THAT SERVICE NEEDS AND ALTERNATIVES AND RELIABILITY. SO IF YOU PROVIDE SERVICE EVERY 120 MINUTES AND YOU HAVE ICE CREAM AND A BAG THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A REALLY SOLUTION FOR THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY. SO THAT RELIABILITY AND ALTERNATIVES PIECE TO BEST UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN PROVIDE SOME SERVICE BUT IT'S GOOD AND RELIABLE ENOUGH SERVICE FOR FOLKS TO USE IT. SO THAT'S MEASURES OF EFFECTIVENESS COME INTO PLACE AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY WHERE WE HAVE THE ALTERNATIVES WORK.

WE'VE GONE BACK OUT TO THE STAKEHOLDERS WE'VE TALKED TO OF THE PUBLIC AND THAT IS ONGOING AND WE'RE MEASURING WHICH OF THE ARE GOING TO BE MOST COST BENEFICIAL AND EFFECTIVE SO THAT WE BRING FORTH A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE SO SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE IN THE LAST PART I KNOW WE'VE COVERED UP A LITTLE BIT HERE IN THE FINAL QUADRANT BUT THAT THAT'S TO COME YOU'RE IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THE STUDY ESSENTIALLY SO YOU CAN WE BEGAN BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND WE'VE COVERED A LOT OF GROUND AND WHAT WE CALL PHASE ONE WHICH ARE THOSE NEXT TWO BLOCKS AND THAT MOVES US PHASE TWO WHERE AGAIN WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE STRATEGIES SCENARIOS BUT THEN FINDING THAT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE AND MOVING INTO THAT DETAILED FINANCIAL ANALYSIS SO THE PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM VARIOUS GROUPS INCLUDING YOURS WILL HELP US TO REFINE SCENARIO BUILDING TO THAT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. SO WE HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WE ARE IN ENGAGEMENT ROUND TWO WHERE WE'RE REVIEWING AND REFINING ALTERNATIVES AND PRIORITIZING THOSE MOBILITY AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT MOMENT TO PAUSE BECAUSE FIXED ROUTE TRANSIT WHAT PEOPLE THINK TRANSIT THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK THE STUFF ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT'S GOING TO COME AT A REGULAR SCHEDULE THAT'S A VERY HELPFUL TOOL WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MOST URBANIZED AREAS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CONCENTRATION FOR A PICKUP AND THE CONCENTRATION FOR A DROP OFF THAT MEETS

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SPECIFIC INDUSTRY STANDARDS BUT THAT IS NOT THE MOST APPROPRIATE TOOL FOR EVERY AREA IN YOUR COMMUNITY. SO FINDING THE RIGHT MOBILITY INVESTMENTS SO IN SOME AREAS THAT MIGHT LOOK A MICRO TRANSIT SERVICE AS ANYBODY THE ROOM HEARD THE TERM MICRO TRANSIT YES AS ANYBODY NOT OKAY. MICRO TRANSIT WE'RE GOING TO DO A REALLY QUICK DOVE ON MICRO TRANSIT. SO MICRO TRANSIT SERVICES ARE MUCH LIKE UBER OR LYFT.

IT'S JUST THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION VERSION OF THAT. SO DIFFERENCES WOULD BE THAT WHEN YOU USE YOUR MOBILE APPLICATION TO SCHEDULE YOUR TRIP YOU WOULD BE EXPECTED TO PERHAPS WALK ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK IF THERE ARE SAFE FACILITIES NEARBY AND WOULD ALWAYS BE PAIRED WITH OTHER RIDERS. SO AN UBER OR LYFT YOU GET TO PICK THE SIZE OF YOUR VEHICLE, YOU GET TO PICK YOUR PICKUP LOCATION AND YOU GET TO SAY IF YOU WANT A RIDE TOGETHER OR ALONE. THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION VERSION OF THAT IS MORE AFFORDABLE AND THEREFORE SOME OF THOSE REQUESTS FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF SERVICE NOT PART OF THAT PROGRAM BUT IT IS VERY MUCH LIKE UBER AND LYFT IT HAS THAT ALGORITHM IT'S MOBILE APPLICATION BASED AND IT'S MORE FLEXIBLE THAT WAY.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN AREA IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT DOES NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS, THERE'S NO SAFE WAY FOR THEM TO WALK TO A BUS STOP. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ON A REGULAR ENOUGH SCHEDULE TO MAKE A SINGLE VEHICLE STOP AND PICK THEM UP THEN MORE FLEXIBLE MODELS OF SERVICE LIKE AN OR LYFT MODEL IS MORE APPROPRIATE SO THERE WILL BE IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE YOU'LL SEE DIVERSE TYPES OF TRANSIT SERVICES RECOMMENDED IT'S THE MODERN VERSION OF TRANSIT PROVISION WHERE YOU HAVE A SLATE OF SERVICES THAT ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO MOVE PEOPLE INSTEAD OF ONE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION PATIENT TRYING TO MOVE EVERYBODY.

SO KEY FINDINGS RECAP THIS IS AN OVERVIEW THAT IS REPRESENTED IN YOUR FACT SHEETS BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE ONLINE AND IN THE AUDIENCE WE USED A LOT OF DIFFERENT OUTREACH TOOLS IN PHASE ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD REACH THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY WERE.

SO HAD A REALLY GREAT PAGE ON THE LOWCOUNTRY WEBSITE WHERE ALL OF OUR INFORMATION AND RESOURCES WERE VALIDATED. WE REALLY HEAVILY ON FACT SHEETS THAT ARE ATTRACTIVE AND INTERESTING THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ALPHABET SOUP WORDS AND THAT BUT OUR DISTILLED TO WHAT SOMEONE WOULD WANT TO READ QUICKLY TO GET THE INFORMATION THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.

WE ALSO PRIORITIZED IN-PERSON EVENTS TO COME OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT WHILE THEY WERE DOING THE THINGS THAT THEY ENJOYED HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THEM. OUR SURVEYS WERE REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE STUDY SO THAT WE COULD GET THE INFORMATION APPLES TO APPLES FROM FOLKS THAT WANTED TO TELL US WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO AND NEEDED TO GO. SO WE REALLY PRIORITIZED OUR ONLINE AND PRINT SURVEYS PROVIDING THEM TO THE EXISTING TRANSIT RIDERS OF THE REGION.

SO WHAT WE HEARD BACK FROM THE PUBLIC AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS IS THAT SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY ARE TOP CONCERNS. A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH HAVE NEVER SEEN TRANSIT BEFORE. SO THIS IDEA OF A LACK OF SAFETY OR BRINGING FOLKS THAT PERHAPS NOT A PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES WILL BE A LOT EDUCATION REQUIRED WHEN SERVICE BEGINS SERVICE FOR LOCAL WORKFORCE AND TOURIST IS TOP OF MIND BUT WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THIS GROWING COMMUNITY THAT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN INCOME AND COST IS GETTING GREATER AND GREATER. SO MAKING SURE FOLKS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO THE WORKFORCE AND THAT WE BALANCE THAT WITH MOVING BECAUSE WE KNOW TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS GETTING MORE AND MORE OF A CONCERN FOR COMMUNITY AND THEN SERVING UNDERSERVED AREAS SO THOSE MOST VULNERABLE THAT LIKELY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A VEHICLE BUT I WILL GIVE YOU A CUT TOO MANY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE LIVING IN THE MOST RURAL PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE MOST DIFFICULT TO GET TO. SO THAT REALLY IS THE CONUNDRUM OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS THAT IN MANY CASES THOSE THAT ARE MOST VULNERABLE ARE NOT IN THE AREAS THAT ARE PRIME FOR FIXED ROUTE TRANSIT ALL WAYS THAT DIFFICULT WHERE YOU GO IN FOR THEM HELP ME UNDERSTAND UNDERSERVED AREAS AND YOU GOT PARRIS ISLAND NC WESTERN THOSE WERE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE SURVEY SO THAT WAS NOT IDENTIFIED BY OUR TEAM BUT WORTH RECOGNIZING AS THE MOST REPEATED TWO LOCATIONS THAT THE PUBLIC THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE OUTER PARTS OF THE COUNTY ROAD BOSWORTH COUNTY IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SURVEY. THEY ARE YES SIR. THESE WERE TWO SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY THE YES AND SO GOALS AND OBJECTIVES THAT WERE DEVELOPED AS PART OF A TECHNICAL STAFF EXERCISE AS WELL AS BY STAKEHOLDERS ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE ENVIRONMENT SO WE HAVE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES IN ADDITION TO FINANCIAL RESOURCES ACCESSIBILITY FOR ALL ECONOMIC GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT BE SAFE AND SECURE AND THEN EFFICIENT AND FINANCIALLY SOUND SO WE SEE SOME COMMON THEMES THAT ARE COMING UP. WE WANT TO BE EFFICIENT.

WE WANT BE GOOD STEWARDS BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY AND THE EXISTING CONDITIONS. I KNOW THOSE ARE CUT OFF BUT AGAIN IT IS YOUR FACT SHEET.

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IT'S A REALLY GREAT SYNOPSIS. YOUR POPULATION IS CONTINUING TO GROW RAPIDLY AND IN SOME AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING NOT JUST AT WHAT WE NEED NOW BUT TO THE FUTURE MAJOR DESTINATIONS ARE CONCENTRATED IN YOUR COMMUNITY CENTERS AND SO WHEN YOU THINK FIXED ROUTE AND YOU THINK ABOUT STOPPING THOSE DEEP CONTEMPORARY SHUT INS, THAT'S THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD WE WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE AT LEAST SERVICE AND THEN PROPENSITY TRANSIT PROPENSITY IS A COMBINATION OF FACTORS STATISTICALLY MOST LIKELY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO MEET AND USE TRANSIT AND I KNOW THAT'S A MOUTHFUL BUT THERE ARE FACTORS THAT ARE QUITE OBVIOUS SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE A VEHICLE BELOW A CERTAIN FINANCIAL THRESHOLD AND WHO PERHAPS A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO DRIVE THOSE THINGS ARE ALL CAPTURED BY THE U.S. CENSUS BUREAU AND ALLOW US TO USE COMBINATIONS THEM TO FIND THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND SERVICE SO THAT IT WOULD BE UTILIZED. THERE ARE OTHER TRANSIT PROPENSITY FACTORS STATISTICALLY THAT MAKE PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO USE IT LIKE FEMALES ARE MORE LIKELY TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION THAN MALES BY 52%. SO SOME OF THOSE ARE NOT AS DIRECT FACTORS AS ZERO VEHICLE HOUSEHOLDS BUT ALL OF THOSE COMBINED AT VARIOUS LEVELS OF IMPORTANCE TO IDENTIFY CONCENTRATIONS OF THE RIGHT TYPE OF FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO LIKELY TRANSIT STATISTICALLY AND THEN EMPLOYMENT AND OUTFLOW OF YOUNG AND DO YOU GO BACK TO PARRIS ISLAND THE RECRUITS CAN'T LEAVE SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT SHOWED UP ALTHOUGH THERE SPECIFICALLY JUST LIKE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANCE OF YOUR TECHNICAL TEAM THAT WE SEE THESE AND WE USE AS A MILE MARKER TO LOOK AT BUT WE AGREE WITH YOU WE'VE I THINK I THINK THAT THE SOURCE OF THAT THERE THERE WAS MULTIPLE SURVEYS THAT MENTIONED GRADUATION OVER THAT'S THE MATH. OKAY ALL RIGHT WELL I UNDERSTAND THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. OKAY. OKAY.

SO MADE SOME STRATEGIES AND WE WILL SPEND A LOT TIME ON THESE BUT THEY ARE IMPORTANT SO MOVING US THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT OUR TOOL BOX AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RIGHT SIZING THE TOOLS FOR THE TYPE NEEDS THAT WE'RE SEEING.

IT IS LIKENED TO BRINGING A SLEDGEHAMMER TO SURGERY. YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT WRONG TOOL OR YOU'RE INEVITABLY TO HAVE POOR OUTCOMES. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE RIGHT SIZING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THIS STUDY TO NOT ONLY THE NEEDS BUT ALSO THE RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO IN THE TRANSIT STRATEGY CHOOSE CATEGORY YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR FIXED ROUTE PROVIDED ON THE MAJOR ROADWAYS THAT WOULD BE YOUR COLLECTORS.

IT'S GOING BE LIKE THE FUNNEL THAT'S BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THEN YOUR FIXED CIRCULATOR. SO ONCE YOU GET INTO THE DENSEST PART OF YOUR COMMUNITY WHERE YOU HAVE THE LARGEST NUMBER OF ORIGINS AND DESTINATIONS.

YOU WANT TO MOVE THOSE FOLKS MORE RAPIDLY SO THAT IT'S CALLED A CIRCULATOR.

IT'S GOING TO BE IN A CONCENTRATED AREA. IT'S NOT GOING GO OUT AND COLLECT AS MANY PEOPLE. IT'S THERE TO MOVE PEOPLE. MICRO TRANSIT WE'VE DISCUSSED VERY IMPORTANT IN THOSE AREAS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME DENSITY OR COMMUNITY BUILT OUT RESOURCES AND THEN EMPLOYMENT CENTERS SHUTTLES THOSE ARE THE COMMUTER SHUTTLES ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THOSE ARE NOT JEOPARDIZED BY THE SERVICE. SO OUR INTENT IS TO FEED MORE RIDERS TO YOUR COMMUTER SHUTTLES BECAUSE IF THEY CAN'T REACH THOSE CURRENTLY THEY CAN'T UTILIZE THEM AND THEN SUPPORTING STRATEGIES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE AREAS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ON A MAJOR CORRIDOR YOU STILL HAVE TO GET TO THAT CLOSEST PICK UP LOCATION. SO THINGS LIKE BIKESHARE OR BIKE AND PET INTENSIVE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT SO WE SEE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY OR NEED WHERE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE MAKING THAT YOU AS A COMMUNITY KNOW THAT AND THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN THAT IN SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE SEE A GREAT NEED TO FILTER PEOPLE INTO THE SYSTEM AND SERVICE INCLUDING YOUR PENNY TAX PROGRAM. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THOSE IMPORTANT PROJECTS AND HOW ABOUT SUPPORT THIS SYSTEM A VAN POOL PROGRAM WHICH IS A REALLY GREAT SCALABLE SOLUTION YOU'VE GOT FOLKS THAT ARE IN OUTLYING AREAS THERE'S NO BETTER WAY TO SERVE THEM AND THEY DON'T NEED TO COMPETE ON A MOBILE APPLICATION TO HAVE A RELIABLE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION TO WORK VIABLE PROGRAMS ARE A GREAT RESOURCE FOR A COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT VEHICLE.

THEY GO IN GREATER AREAS INTO THE REGION WHERE THAT SERVICE IS MAYBE NOT PROVIDED IN THE HOWARD COUNTY AREA. SO IT'S A REALLY DYNAMIC AND ONE THAT IF YOU HAVE NO RIDERS YOU PAY NOTHING IF YOU GROW IT YOU ADD VEHICLES THAT THAT GROWTH MODEL IS INTENSIFYING AND THEN I LOVE THIS ONE THE FUTURE FERRY CONNECTIONS WE KNOW THAT'S LONG TERM BUT MAKING SURE WE'RE REFLECTING ON THAT AND IF IS TO BE A FERRY ENTRANCE INTO THE COMMUNITY

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WHERE THE TRANSIT VEHICLES COULD POTENTIALLY CONNECT IN THE FUTURE AND THEN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS IT ALL WE CALL THEM MOBILITY HUBS OR FACILITIES.

WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO SELL TICKETS FOR FOLKS TO DWELL.

ONE OF THE HIGHEST IMPACTS TO HEALTH OF A TRANSIT SYSTEM IS THE DRIVERS HEALTH BECAUSE IN VEHICLES ALL DAY LONG THEY DON'T HAVE GREAT ACCESS TO REST AREAS.

SO MAKING SURE WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THAT IF WE'RE DESIGNING NEW FROM SCRATCH THAT WILL HAVE THOSE APPROPRIATE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT ROUTE DESIGN FOR THEM TO EXIT THE VEHICLE SAFELY AND TO UTILIZE THOSE RESOURCES TO MAINTAIN THE HEALTH OF A NEW WORKFORCE IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S BOTH AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL.

IF WE TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC STUDY AREA, WHERE IS THE DROP OFF POINTS AND HOW DOES THAT ALL WORK AS A LEVEL ONE JOB MOST IMPORTANT AND THEN MOVING IN ALL THE WAY TO LEVEL THREE WHICH IS REALLY YOUR BUS STOP AND THEN PARK AND RIDE FACILITIES WHICH WE'VE REALLY TAKEN A CLOSE LOOK AT MAKE SURE THAT AS FOLKS ARE COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY, OUT OF THE COMMUNITY AND OR JUST WANTING TO DROP A VEHICLE OFF SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO TRY TO FIND PARKING THE DOWNTOWN. THEY HAVE AN EASY AND ACCESSIBLE WAY TO DO THAT.

MR. WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE COMMUTER COMMUNITY COMMUTER SHUTTLE PROGRAM ACTUALLY WORKS FOR YOU SO YOU HAVE EXISTING COMMUTER SHUTTLES THAT ARE OPERATING NORTHERN THAT HAVE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL RIDERSHIP BASE. SO THOSE WOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED. THE GOAL FOR THIS SYSTEM BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING AND REFLECTING ON THEIR SCHEDULE AND THEIR PICKUP LOCATIONS AND COORDINATING WITH THOSE. SO IF YOU HAVE A NEW SERVICE TYPE MAKING THOSE PICK UP AND DROP OFF LOCATIONS HAVE A COMMON STOP AREA SO THAT IF SOMEONE TRYING TO GET TO THOSE COMMUTER PICKUP LOCATIONS THEY CAN DO SO AND THEN POTENTIALLY FURTHER ENHANCING THEM THROUGH THE PARK AND RIDE FUNCTION SO THAT THOSE COMMUTER SHUTTLES CAN STOP AND PICK UP IN THOSE PARK AND RIDE LOCATIONS AS WELL. OKAY.

COULD QUICKLY YOU HAD A PARK AND RIDE SOMEONE WAS PLANNING ON STAYING ON INCLUDED IN THAT.

IT HASN'T BEEN YET. SO WE HAVE ZONES IF WILL. SO ONCE WE HAVE OUR PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE THEN GET VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT LAND IS AVAILABLE SO WE'RE STILL THE MEASURES OF EFFECTIVENESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ROUTING IN RIGHT WAY AND PICKING UP THE RIGHT NUMBER OF FOLKS. BUT I WOULD LOVE YOUR INPUT. YOU'VE GOT SPOTS IN PARK AND RIDE LOCATIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS. WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR AVAILABLE ON PUBLIC LAND OR A GREAT THAT ARE STATISTICALLY MOST LIKELY TO PARTNER FOR EXAMPLE WAL-MARTS ARE REALLY GREAT TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE BUSINESS MODELS WHERE THEY SAY WE REALLY LOVE TRANSIT. WE KNOW THAT OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR PATRONS LIKE TO COME HERE.

SO STATISTICALLY THEY'RE MOST LIKELY TO BE A GREAT PARK AND RIDE PARTNER.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER RETAILERS THAT ARE KNOWN NOTORIOUS NOT TO PREFER TRANSIT.

SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING OUR ROUTING FOR THOSE THAT WE KNOW STATISTICALLY ARE MOST LIKELY TO WANT IT THERE AND SO SOME THEM WILL BE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND SOME OF THEM WILL BE SPECIFIC TRANSIT AND RUN FACILITIES IN THE FUTURE.

SO IF YOU HAVE IDEAS I'M OPEN TO HEAR OH NO THAT'S NOT IN MIND BECAUSE THE HONEY ASKING PARK HAS LOST A LOT OF PARKING SPACE. OKAY, FUTURE MOON PARK.

I THINK PARK AND RIDE MAY BE THE ANSWER FOR ACCESS. IT'S THE DESTINATION OF THE LARGEST TOURISM IN A VERY PRECARIOUS ENVIRONMENT BEST SO IT WOULD BE A DESTINATION NOT A PART OF MY ENTIRE WORLD. SO I UNDERSTAND. SO WE WANT TO BE UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY. GOT IT. IF THERE'S A QUESTION THIS ANSWER TO GIVE ME I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RAISE MY HAND AND BE LIKE I'M YES WE AT CITY COUNCIL AS THE IT'S COME UP IN OUR CONVERSATIONS A NUMBER OF TIMES ABOUT KIND OF A HOP ON HOP OFF TYPE SITUATION WHERE MAJOR TRANSIT INTERSECTIONS OR YOU KNOW BUSINESSES LIKE MAYBE LADY'S ISLAND MAYBE IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY IT'D BE A FEED YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE INTERSECTION OF ROBINS FALLS, PARRIS AND GATEWAY WHERE YOU COULD JUST HAVE SHUTTLES IF YOU WILL JUST AND AND THE BENEFIT OF IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT AS FREQUENCY BECAUSE IF YOU MISS ONE ON THE OTHER ONE'S GOING TO BE BY AND WHATEVER 15 MINUTES. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO YOUR SCHEDULE VERY MUCH.

BUT I COULD SEE SOMETHING THAT TAKING SOME OF THE TRAFFIC OF OFF OF OUR MAIN THOROUGHFARES ESPECIALLY DURING THE RUSH HOURS. IS THAT PART OF YOUR THINKING ALSO I. WONDERFUL IDEA. AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE IDENTIFY AREAS NEED AND THEN WE MODEL THOSE TO SEE WHAT THE LIKELY COST WOULD BE.

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THERE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE COST CONSTRAINTS. SO WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS A VERY RAPID FOR THE POPULATION AND EMPLOYMENT DENSITIES THAT YOU HAVE IN THIS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU STILL CONTINUE TO EXPLORE BUT WHAT WE DO IS IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE AREAS NEED AND OPPORTUNITY ARE AND WE ROUTE THEM TO CONNECT THEM AND WE RUN DIFFERENT MODELS TO SAY OKAY IF WE WANTED TO GO 15 MINUTES HOW MANY VEHICLES WOULD TAKE AND SO WHAT WOULD THAT ASSOCIATED COST BE? SO THE ONLY WAY YOU MAKE THEM FASTER IS TO ADD MORE VEHICLES BECAUSE OPERATING IN THE SAME TRAFFIC THAT EVERYONE ELSE'S SO IF YOU START TO GET TO 15 MINUTE HEADWAYS YOU WOULD LIKELY BE SEEING FOUR AND SIX VEHICLES ON EVERY ROUTE WHICH IS QUITE A LOT. EACH VEHICLE THAT YOU ADD ADDS ANOTHER EMPLOYEE WHICH IS THE CARRYING COST FOR TRANSIT SYSTEMS IS SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR THAT. VEHICLES ARE FAIRLY EASY TO ACQUIRE BUT THAT COST OF MAINTAINING STAFF AS WELL AS FUELING AND PREVENTATIVE. SO WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS BE AS EFFECTIVE AS WE POSSIBLY MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN WITH THE LOWEST NUMBER OF RESOURCE TO BE MOST COST. SO YOU'LL SEE SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IN OUR DRAFT SUGGESTED SCENARIOS. I BELIEVE WE GOT IT DOWN TO 30 MINUTES IN THOSE CORE DOWNTOWN AREAS THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR. AND SOME OF THEM ARE OVERLAPPING WITH OTHER ROUTES SO IT WOULD FEEL VERY SIMILAR WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING THAT SOMEONE MIGHT ONLY WAIT 15 MINUTES BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A SPECIFIC SEGMENT THAT HAS MULTIPLE ROUTES THAT OVERLAPPING. SO I'LL SHOW YOU SOME SCHEMATIC SCENARIOS IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES AND I'D LOVE YOUR REACTION TO WHAT WE'VE PREPARED SO FAR. OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR. SO WE WON'T GET INTO A LOT OF DETAIL THESE GRAPHICS BUT THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF EITHER EXISTING PLAN MAPS THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO IDENTIFYING TRANSIT NEEDS SOME THAT WE PULLED REPRESENTATIVE DATA FROM AND IDENTIFIED OF OPPORTUNITY NEED AND AREAS OF PERHAPS CONSTRAINT IF WE HAVE VERY SPECIFIC TRAFFIC ISSUES ON A CORRIDOR WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE IT AS AN IMPORTANT QUARTER BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT AS AN AREA THAT WOULD BE OPERATIONALLY CHALLENGING FOR A BUS SYSTEM.

SO USING THE AVAILABLE INFORMATION OUTFLOW AND INFLOW OF EMPLOYMENT.

PLANNED AND PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS FOR BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE, POPULATION AND EMPLOYMENT. YOU SEE OUR TRANSIT PROPENSITY MAP IN THE MIDDLE THAT WAS OF THOSE CHARACTERISTICS MOST LIKELY TO RELY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

SO THESE ALL HELP US AS A LAYERING EFFECT IDENTIFY AREAS OF GREATEST NEED.

THIS WAS ALSO A REALLY IMPORTANT EXERCISE THAT WAS COMPLETED BY OUR SUB CONSULTANT JENNIFER BRAGG AND ASSOCIATES. A LOCAL ENGINEERING FIRM IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE TAX THE PENNY TAX PROGRAM AND LOCAL ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS THE MOST RELIABLE TO PLACE POINTS OF IMPORTANCE THE COMMUNITIES SO WE HAVE THEIR TEAM WORK WITH OUR TEAM TO IDENTIFY EVERY PHARMACY EVERY OFFICE, EVERY GROCERY STORE AND SCHOOL, EVERY CHURCH, EVERY THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKELY WANT TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AT VARIOUS LEVELS OF SCALE.

WE ALSO IDENTIFIED EXISTING AS WELL AS PLANNED MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MORE DENSELY POPULATED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH AN EMPHASIS THOSE BELOW A SPECIFIC INCOME LEVEL AND THEN OF COURSE THOSE MILITARY RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT DRIVE A LOT OF THOSE TRAVEL SHEDS. SO EACH POINT COLOR CODED BASED ON WHAT THAT TYPE OF LOCATION IS AND THIS HELPS US TO PLAY THE REALLY SOPHISTICATED VERSION OF CONNECT THE DOTS WHEN WE SEE CONCENTRATIONS OF THOSE IT HELPS US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE TRIPS ARE LIKELY TO BE LIKE AND WHAT THAT PROFILE OF THAT TRIP IS LIKELY TO DRAW.

SO IF IT'S A GROCERY STORE IT WILL HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT NUMBER OF HOURS IN THE DAY.

IT WOULD REQUIRE A DESTINATION BASED SERVICE IN COMPARISON TO PERHAPS A DOCTOR'S OFFICE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE BUSINESS HOURS. SO WE MAP THOSE KEY ORIGINS AND DESTINATIONS AND THEN USE THOSE AS A VERY LAY OF THE LAND CHECK ON THOSE AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY.

YES SIR, I CAN'T SEE THE KEY. YEAH. ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS IN THE WATER THAT'S THE EDGE. LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME IN THE OUTER.

THAT'S PROBABLY YEAH AND THE FERRY TO THE SANDBAR. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I'LL HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT IT IT IS A BLUE ONE. YEAH.

YEAH. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT IF WHAT YOU READ AND ON THE DOCKS.

I'M GOING TO RELY ON THIS LEGEND AS MUCH AS Y'ALL CAN PUT YOUR CURSOR ON THE MINIMUM.

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YEP UP THERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO DROP THAT DOWN. OF COURSE AGAIN.

YEAH. THERE WE GO. OKAY.

RED IS EMERGENCY AND MEDICAL. YEAH. YEAH.

SO OUR BLUE IS PARKS AND RECREATION. SO MIGHT ACTUALLY BE RECOGNITION OF THE SANDBAR WHERE FOLKS ARE TRYING GO AS LONG ISLAND IN THE HEART RATHER THAN IN PROFILE. SO THEY'RE PROBABLY CALLING THE BEACHES WHICH ARE IN WATER.

SO THIS THING YEAH IT'S ORANGE. YES, SIR AND SO WE DID COME UP WITH A SCHEMATIC OF SCENARIOS AS A RESULT OF OUR DATA DRIVEN AND PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT DRIVEN PROCESSES.

WE PREPARED THREE SCENARIOS AND PRESENTED THEM TO YOUR STAKEHOLDERS COMMITTEE AS WELL AS YOUR TECHNICAL TEAM AND THEN GATHERED THEM TO THOSE SCHEMATIC SCENARIOS DISCUSS THEM AND THEN WORK IN TWO SEPARATE TEAMS TO DESIGN THEIR PREFERRED TRANSIT SYSTEM USING SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE PROVIDED AND SOME OTHERS THAT THEY FELT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO IT WAS A REALLY FANTASTIC WORKSHOP.

WE HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO DELIVER SERVICE BUT WE HAD STRONG CONCERNS AND ALMOST EVERY AREA OF WHERE SERVICE SHOULD BE PROVIDED AND THE FREQUENCY THAT WOULD BE THE TARGET FOR THOSE AREAS. SO THE SCHEMATIC ROUTING IS WHAT YOU SEE IN THE RIGHT HAND WHERE YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE THE CIRCULATOR MODEL HAPPENING AND THE DOWNTOWN VIEW FOR A PORT ROYAL AREA AND THEN YOU HAVE FEEDER ROUTES THAT ARE COMING IN FROM OTHER AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE THOSE LOWER POPULATION DENSITIES BUT STILL CRITICAL CONNECTIONS.

AND THEN WE ALSO AS A GROUP WORKED ON PRIORITY SETTING SO WE HAD THAT LONG LIST OF ALL THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS AND WE HAD THE STAKEHOLDERS COMMITTEE PLACED DOTS ON THE SOLUTIONS THAT THEY MOST FAVORED FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO FOR EXAMPLE THERE WAS BAND PULL AND COMPARISON TO BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN UPGRADE. IF YOU RUN OUT OF BEFORE YOU CAN IMPLEMENT ONE OF THOSE IN YEAR ONE WHICH ONE SHOULD WE DO FIRST? SO THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT EXERCISE AS WELL. SO WE GOT A LITTLE FAULTY THERE BUT WE'VE GOT SOME HOT OFF THE PRESS DRAFT INFORMATION AND WE MET AS A TECHNICAL COMMITTEE YESTERDAY TO REVIEW THAT. THIS IS CURRENTLY UNDER FURTHER ASSESSMENT BUT THIS IS THE NEXT STEP MOVING FROM SCHEMATIC THEORY SCENARIOS INTO, TESTABLE SCENARIOS.

SO FOR THE URBAN SERVICE SCENARIOS WE HAVE FOR TOTAL THE TOTAL NUMBER OF VEHICLES OUT AT FIVE. SO THAT'S QUITE A FEW VEHICLES FOR A FIXED RAIL SOLUTION.

AND THEN OUR PEAK HEADWAYS. SO IF IT SAYS 60 MINUTES THAT'S HOURLY SERVICE 30 MINUTES WOULD BE 30 MINUTES SERVICE. AND WHEN WE SAY PEAK MEAN AT THE HIGHEST POINT OF MAXIMUM VEHICLES OPERATING AT THAT PRIME TIME IN THE DAY. SO YOU MAY HAVE OFF NUMBERS OF VEHICLES BUT WE ALWAYS WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT PEAK HEADWAY .

AND THEN WE HAVE SUBURBAN SERVICE SCENARIOS SO WE LIKE TO DO THIS SEPARATELY SO THAT WE CAN COMBINE THEM IN WAYS SO FIND THE PREFERRED IN-TOWN SOLUTIONS AND THEN THE SUBURBAN SOLUTIONS AND PAIR THEM TOGETHER TO FIND THE MOST EFFICIENT PAIRING.

SO WE HAVE MICRO TRANSIT FIXED ROUND AND THEN THE 24 HOUR ADVANCE RESERVATION FOR AREAS THAT ARE JUST LOW IN POPULATION IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO EVEN HAVE A MICRO TRANSIT MODEL THERE BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY NEED IT ARE GOING TO BE SO LOW THAT YOU COULD HAVE A USE THAT MORE EXPENSIVE MODEL. SO THE SUBURBAN THAT AGAIN DOOR TO DOOR GEOGRAPHIC COVERAGE EQUITABLE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH SERVICE GEOGRAPHICALLY OUT THERE AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN IN THAT URBAN AREA WE'RE LOOKING AT FREQUENCY CONNECTIVITY. HOW QUICKLY CAN WE MOVE PEOPLE AROUND? HOW DIRECT ARE THOSE CONNECTIONS SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T RIDING FOR AN HOUR TO GET FROM ONE POINT TO THE OTHER ? SO HERE'S A QUICK SNEAK PEEK OF WHAT THOSE SCENARIOS LOOK FOR THE IN-TOWN SERVICE. THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR BUT THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT IN FUNCTIONALITY AND DIRECTION OF FLOW.

SO FOR EXAMPLE WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING THESE YOU CAN SEE THE FAR LEFT SCENARIO ONE HAS TWO ROUTES. WE LIKE TO CALL THAT THE MIKE TOMMY LOOP ON THE RIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT WORK DONE EARLY ON THAT IDENTIFIED THAT AS A POTENTIAL CORRIDOR CONNECTION AND THEN THE SUPPORTING LARGER LOOP THAT WOULD THEN BE THE FEEDER COLLECTING FOLKS TO DROP THEM INTO THAT FASTER CIRCULATOR IN THE DOWNTOWN.

SO THE NUMBER OF TRIPS IS JUST OVER 25,000 WATTS, 60,200 TOTAL POPULATION WITHIN A THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE OF THAT ALIGNMENT FIVE VEHICLES THAT WOULD GO BETWEEN 30 AND 60

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MINUTES AND THAT'S ROUGHLY $1.49 MILLION PER YEAR FOR THE TOTAL FIVE VEHICLES.

SO WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT HIGHER FREQUENCY WE WOULD ADD MORE VEHICLES AND THAT NUMBER WOULD GO UP. SO WE START AT WHAT WE THINK WE CAN DEFEND AS FAR AS POPULATION EMPLOYMENT AND WHEN OUR GOALS CHANGE AND WE SAY NO, NO NOT JUST DENSITY BASED WE WANT TO COMPETE VEHICLES IN A MORE MEANINGFUL WAY THEN THOSE METRICS CHANGE THAT NUMBER COULD GO UP OR DOWN. SO WHEN YOU COMPARE SCENARIO ONE TO SAY SCENARIO FOUR, SCENARIO FOUR IS GOING TO HAVE MORE TRIPS ON THE DAY. SO 35,600 POPULATION SERVE GOES UP TO 16,600. OUR GO DOWN TO FOUR AND SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PEAK FREQUENCY TO 60 MINUTES AND OUR COST OR OPERATING COST GOES DOWN TO 1.41.

SO WE TALK ABOUT MEASURES OF EFFECTIVENESS JUST IN THE WAY THAT WE TWEAK RULES CAN HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT THE COST AND THE BENEFIT OF POTENTIAL SERVICE SCENARIOS.

SO THIS THE TESTING MODEL THAT WE'RE IN NOW WHEN WE AT DESKTOP REVIEW LEVEL ALL HAVE CONSENSUS THAT WE LIKE ONE SCENARIO OVER ANOTHER OR NARROW IT DOWN TO A COUPLE OF POTENTIAL SCENARIOS WE GROUND THROUGH THEM, WE GET ON A BUS AND WE DRIVE AROUND THE COMMUNITY TO SEE IF WHAT WE ARE MODELING IS REAL AND IN OUR SUBURBAN SERVICES WE HAVE MICRO TRANSIT ZONES SO YOU WON'T SEE STOPS ON THE MAP. YOU WOULD SEE THESE AREAS OF POTENTIAL SERVICE.

SO IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE A USER YOU WOULD DETERMINE IF YOU IN OR OUT OF THAT AREA AND THEN YOU WOULD SCHEDULE YOUR TRIP THOSE MAKE CONNECTIONS TO THE FIXED RAIL SYSTEM SO YOU CAN ALWAYS FROM ONE TO THE OTHER AND YOU WOULD HAVE TWO ZONES 14,400 TRIPS ROUGHLY SO THAT'S 25,300 POPULATION SERVED FOR VEHICLES, 60 MINUTE FREQUENCY. SO CAN MAKE THAT GO UP OR DOWN IT JUST COSTS MORE THE FASTER YOU GO. SO YOU CAN SAY WE WANT OUR FOLKS TO WAIT 15 MINUTES. THEY'RE GOING TO DEPLOY A LARGER FLEET SO YOU GET TO CONTROL THE COST BY THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES SO THAT COSTS WOULD BE 1.35 MILLION PER YEAR ROUGHLY AGAIN PLANNING NUMBERS . AND WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS THE FIXED RAIL SOLUTION YOU CAN SEE THAT THE COST IS DRAMATICALLY IT'S UNDER $1,000,000 BUT THEN WHEN YOU SEE THE TOTAL POPULATION WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO IT USING THE SAME NUMBER OF VEHICLES IT'S LESS THAN HALF .

SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GREATEST POPULATION COVERAGE AGE WHEN YOU HAVE A MICRO TRANSIT SOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO GO SOMEWHAT DOOR TO DOOR YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE BETTER COVERAGE. SO AGAIN THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND RETURN ON BOTTOM BOTTOM LINE DOLLAR INVESTMENT 24 HOUR ADVANCE RESERVATION IS NOT FOR THESE SPECIFIC AREAS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE NORTH. SO GMC AND SURROUNDING AREAS WE KNOW THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT IT'S PART OF OUR STUDY AREA BUT THE POPULATION DROPS OFF DRAMATICALLY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL POPULATION SERVED IT'S ONLY JUST 2000 FOR THAT ENTIRE AREA WITHIN OUR STUDY AREA.

SO A GOOD RULE OF THUMB IN TRANSIT IS YOU HOPE THAT YOU CAN OBTAIN ABOUT 10% OF THE POPULATION AND RIDERSHIP. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT POPULATION YOU WOULD BE EXPECTING 200 OR FEWER RIDERS. THAT'S A FAIRLY LOW MARGIN AND WE EXPECT THAT IT WOULD BE LOWER THAN THAT GIVEN THE LIKELY COST TO DELIVER IT. SO AN IMPORTANT OPTION SO THAT WE CAN SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE DID EVALUATE IT AND IF THE GOALS OBJECTIVES OF THE COMMUNITY DRIVE US TO FIND SOLUTIONS COUNTYWIDE THIS WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDED TYPE OF SERVICE DELIVERY WE WOULD FOR LOWER POPULATION AREAS. ANY QUESTIONS THIS BEFORE GOING ON? I KNOW IT'S A LOT. OKAY SO NEXT STEPS AND DISCUSSION WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS WHERE WE'RE OUR FINAL PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC AS WE SPEAK WE'LL BE FINALIZING THOSE DRAFT SERVICE RECOMMENDATIONS OF COURSE WITH INPUT FROM STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN PRESENTING THAT FINAL PLAN FOR ADOPTION IN OCTOBER . SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I MIGHT HAVE AND CAN SKIP THROUGH ANY SLIDES I MIGHT HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT AS THEY REACH OUT THE NEXT REACH OUT TO PUBLIC. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WE ACTUALLY PRESENTED THE GREEN DRINKS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHICH WAS REALLY WELL ATTENDED AND FANTASTIC AND I REALLY ENJOYED IT.

A LOT OF THOSE MEETINGS CAN BE POORLY ATTENDED BUT ANY TIME AT A BREWERY AND OUTSIDE I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO PASS MIC AROUND AND TO HAVE REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION.

THEY STAYED AFTER AND THEY WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP US PRIORITIZE THOSE INVESTMENTS AND PUT ADDITIONAL PENS ON THE MAP. SO IT WAS A LOT OF INTERACTIVITY ENGAGEMENT AND WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP WITH A COUPLE OF FOLKS SIGNING UP TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE'RE EXCITED FOR THEM TO BECOME PART OF OUR EMISSARY TEAM SO THEY'LL BE ONGOING ACTIVITIES. WE DID DEVELOP A REALLY FANTASTIC COMMUNITY EMISSARY IN OUR PHASE ONE WHERE FOLKS THAT CAME OUT AND SPOKE WITH US EITHER AT A STAKEHOLDERS

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MEETING OR AT PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES THEY UP TO BE PART OF AN EMISSARY TEAM SO WE GIVE THEM RESOURCES AND COMMUNICATION TOOLS FOR THEM TO PUBLISH ON THEIR FACEBOOK PAGE TO HAND OUT AT THEIR COMMUNITY EVENTS SO HAVE ABOUT 25 EMISSARIES THAT ARE ALL READY TO GO WITH ROUND TWO. SO THE FACT SHEET WILL CERTAINLY BE PART OF THAT BUT WE'LL REALLY ACTIVATE THEM WHEN WE HAVE OUR GRAPH SERVICE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT THEY CAN GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND GET GREAT FEEDBACK SO.

WE'LL BE FINALIZING OUR GRAPHS, PRIORITIZE OUR PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE IN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS SO THAT BIG PUSH WILL BE IN THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME THAT WE KNOW WE'LL HAVE THE AVAILABLE INFORMATION PACKAGE TO REALLY REACT TO ABOUT WHAT THAT DRAFT CERTAINLY IS DIFFICULT.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE TAKEN A VERY THOROUGH APPROACH TO THE STUDY AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. SO VERY APPRECIATIVE FROM THE CITY FOR THAT.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY I'VE PARTICIPATED IN THIS STAKE. A MOST RECENT STAKEHOLDER AND I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU GUYS THIS IS NOT AN EASY TASK. I DON'T KNOW IF I MIGHT BE ABLE TO THEY GAVE IT TO STRINGS AND DOTS AND PINS AND THEY ONLY HAVE SO MUCH STRING LIKE IT IS WHICH REPRESENTED THE RESOURCES YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS AND YOU HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ROOTS ARE AND READ. YES, YES. AND SO IT IS.

AND SO I GAINED AN APPRECIATION FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AND I THINK WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO THE PRODUCT THAT COMES OUT AND IS SO MUCH A QUESTION. I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING TOO BUT AS FAR AS HAVING THAT FEDERAL BONDING TIME LOT OF IMPLEMENTATION AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR BUDGET BECAUSE FEDERAL BUDGET AND OUR BUDGET ARE NOT SYNC DONE. RIGHT.

SO HOW DOES THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THAT WORKS AS FAR AS WE IMPLEMENT IN OCTOBER ? HOW DO WE TAP INTO THAT FEDERAL FUNDING AND INCORPORATED OUR BUDGET MOVING FORWARD? SO BRIAN AND HIS TEAM ARE ALREADY DELIVERING TOP OF THAT.

THEY'RE ALREADY LEVERAGING OFF OF YEAH WE WE STRUGGLE WITH THAT BIG TIME BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SO WE HAVE NINE PARTNERS ALL DOING THEIR BUDGET THE SAME TIME ARE.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAD TO PASS OUR BOARD HAD TO PASS THIS WEEK TO RESOLUTION BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING ON LOCAL MATCH NEVER AND WE'RE STILL WAITING. SO SO WE'RE BASICALLY OPERATING UNDER OUR FISCAL 25 BUDGET FOR AT LEAST A MONTH. SO HERE'S HOW THAT KIND OF WORKS. I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. WE WILL KNOW FOR EXAMPLE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO WHAT OUR APPROPRIATIONS ARE FROM THE FTA OR THEIR NEXT FISCAL YEAR STARTING OCTOBER 1ST IT'S A GUESSING GAME A LITTLE BIT BUT MORE PRACTICALLY SPEAKING WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE WE MADE A DECISION GOING INTO FISCAL SO THERE WAS VERY LITTLE FUNDING PER SAY IN FISCAL 25 THERE WAS SOME CAPITAL MONEYS FOR THIS URBAN AREA OF THE FEDERAL GRANTS ADMINISTRATION FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT'S ENDING WE OUT OF THE EXACT CONTRACT THAT WE PURCHASED TO BASICALLY 88 VEHICLES BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO NEED IT. SO WE USE THAT MONEY TO BUY TWO VEHICLES MINOR AND WE JUST LEVERAGE THE MATCH THAT WE ALREADY HAD ON HAND. WE DIDN'T EVEN COME OUT TO THE THREE PARTNERS UP HERE FOR THAT IS THE A MUDDY THE WATERS GOING INTO FISCAL 26 WE ADDED OFFICIALLY ADDED THE NEW URBAN AREA AS A NEW FUNDING AREA SO WE HAVE NEW BANK ACCOUNTS WITH NEW EVERYTHING FOR SO THIS YEAR WE HAD WE ADDED TWO PARTNERS BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD THE COUNTY AND WE ADDED THE CITY OF RIVER OF PORT ROYAL. SO THE BUDGET REQUESTS THERE WERE CAPITAL REQUEST ONLY INTO RACHAEL'S POINTS CAPITAL IS MONEY IS EASIER TO FIND FOR CAPITAL ITEMS BUYING THEM NOT NECESSARILY IS EASY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET INTO A PRODUCTION CYCLE. SO WE WANTED GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING SOMETHING HERE. WE JUST DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SO WE ASKED FOR CAPITAL MATCH MONEY WHICH THE THREE PARTNERS HAVE APPROVED SO THAT IS SECURED THAT'S ONE THAT'S ONE KNOWN WE HAVE ACTUALLY USED FOR THIS NORTHERN GIVEN AREA.

FISCAL 27 IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST YEAR WHERE WE ASK FOR CASH FOR OPERATING OPERATING DOLLARS OR LIKE 5050 APPLES 2080 SO THE NUMBER IS GOING TO GO WAY UP AND AGAIN THAT'LL BE AN ASK AND OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE CONVERSATIONS LEADING UP TO THAT BUT WE'LL BE TALKING WITH OFFICIALS AT THE THREE IN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF THE TOWN WELL IN ADVANCE THAT TO SAY THIS IS THIS IS WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THIS IS WHAT THE COSTS ARE, THIS IS WHAT THE MATCHES AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHETHER IT'S FEASIBLE BUT OF THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE AND FOLLOW UP ON THAT HAS YOUR STUDY TAKEN TO ACCOUNT AND I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON IT AS WELL THE THE PRICING FOR THE SERVICE AND THE EXPANDED ACCESS AND WHAT WHAT SECOND WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO PRICING FARES OR FARES FOR US FOR THE ACCESS TO THE SERVICE EVERYTHING

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BECAUSE THAT'S ON OBVIOUSLY OFFSET AS WE EXPAND ACCESS THAT'S OFFSET SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL COST TO HAVE THAT ON OUR CAMPUS YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IT DOES REMARKABLY DON'T ACCOUNT FOR THAT MUCH AND WE DO HAVE A FARE STRUCTURE IN PLACE BOARD APPROVED SO ALL FIVE OF OUR COUNTIES HAVE REPRESENTATIVES ON THE BOARD BASICALLY HAVE A AN URBAN FIXED ROUND FARE OF A DOLLAR PER TRIP SO IF YOU GOT ON ITS TOWER YOU'D OFTEN GET BACK ON IT'S A DOLLAR SO THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A TRANSFER PER SAY. SO IF WE DID AN URBAN CIRCULATOR RIGHT NOW UNDER OUR CURRENT FARE STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE A DOLLAR PER TRIP.

IT WOULD PROBABLY START OFF FREE BECAUSE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO RIDE IN THE JOB LIKE A YEARLY PASS ANYTHING LIKE THAT WEEKLY AND MONTHLY WE DO HERE WE DON'T DO YEARLY WE DO IT AND WEEKLY IT'S KIND OF BASED ON OUR COMMUTER PATTERN BUT THAT'S WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO CHANGES THAT YEARLY OR WHAT HAPPEN ON THE COMMUNITY AND WE CAN DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND DIFFERENT SETTLEMENTS TO DIFFERENT AREAS BUT I DON'T WANNA GET OFF TOPIC BUT YOU KNOW ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I HEARD WAS ACTUALLY FROM SOME OF THE ELDERLY AND THE COMMUNITY WANTED A YEARLY FIXED RATE PASS SO THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND OF FIVE THAT'S ANOTHER AND HAVE THAT SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I HEARD ABOUT OUR COMMUTERS TO RIDE FIVE OR SIX DAYS A WEEK. SO WE DO OUR WEEKLY PASSES THAT THEY'RE 12TH TRIPS AS IT ASSUMES SIX DAYS AND THEN THEY CAN USE IT FOR THE NEXT WEEK AND THEY ALL THINK IT'S KIND OF WEIRD BUT IT KIND OF WORKS FOR THAT. BUT AGAIN IT'S A DATABASE SO IT'S NOT WE ARE A VERY NEW FIXED ROUND OPERATOR. I MEAN THE TROLLEYS HAVE WAS OUR FIRST MODULE FIXED RIGHT? WE DID WALTER WORKS BEFORE THAT A LOT OF US PRETTY SMALL SO THAT'S ALL THE UNITS IN SEASON AND THE FARES ARE FREE BECAUSE IT'S FREE RIDE TECHNICALLY THERE'S STILL A DOLLAR FARE BUT THE TOWN HILL THAT COVERS THAT FARE ON THEIR MATCH THAT OUR REQUESTS THEY OUT AND IT'S PART OF THEIR COUNCIL PRICE THAT HE'LL BE TRAVELING AND THEN I'VE HEARD OTHERS THAT SAY THE ONE OF THE OFTEN DOESN'T WORK OFTEN STRUGGLES WITH THAT SO BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE DONE A LOT OF HOMEWORK I CALL IT I MEAN YEAH I MEAN PROBLEM I'M TALKING ABOUT YEAH I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF OUR ALL OF US THAT THIS MIGHT WORK FOR AS A BROAD ESPECIALLY DURING THE FIRST PEAK SEASON LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR THE CLASS OF 94 I MEAN THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THE PLAN THAT DEVELOPED FOR RESULTED IN THE BLOCK BRIDGE SERVICE. I PULLED IT OUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO AND COMPARED IT TO WHAT RACHEL AND THEIR TEAM ARE DOING.

IT'S THIS IS MILES AHEAD OF THAT PLAN. THAT PLAN IT WAS IT ENDED DURING KOMEN SO THE PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS ONLINE ONLY NO ONE ATTENDED THE PUBLIC MEETING THE ROUTING WE HAD WE HAD TO FIX THE ROUTING WITHIN A YEAR TO TO IT DIDN'T INCLUDE ALL FOR EXAMPLE OR BLUFFTON SO WE WE FIXED THAT WE HAD AN OUR BIGGEST TRIP GENERATOR WHICH IS THE HELP THAT OUR VIEWERS AREN'T BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE ARE SOME VERY LOYAL RIDERS THAT SERVICE THAT RIDE IT FREQUENTLY BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THAT THEY WANT TO USE THEIR CAR AND SO IT'S ON US EDUCATE THEM ON THAT. I'M DETERMINED NOT TO ELIMINATE THAT SERVICE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A NECESSARY SERVICE IN AN WHERE YOU CAN'T YOU'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF LANES TO BUILD AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

SO WE'VE MET WITH THE TOWN IN THE PAST THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY A LOCAL PARTNER THERE AND THEY'RE STILL TO HELP ON IT. SO WE'RE WILLING TO KEEP TRYING SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN WE CAN NOW THE TROLLEY SERVICE AND ALL THAT'S WILDLY SUCCESSFUL AND I THINK FOR DIFFERENT REASONS A CIRCULATOR THE TALK EXPRESS IS GOING WORK AND YOU JUST KNOW IT'S GOING TO WORK. IT'S AN INTUITION AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE PLAN BUT IT'S GOING TO WORK IS SERVED AND YOU GOT TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, LOOK AT OUR BUS ROUTES AND LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC THAT WE CAN BY PARENTS COMING TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN.

I'VE GOT A MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE EVERY STATE IS IN TERMS OF EACH SCHOOL AND I LOOK AT YOU FIX ROUTES AND I SAID GOSH THAT'S AWFUL. I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT INITIALLY SO YOU KNOW WE'RE SPENDING WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT AND WE GET IF YOU SEE SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS PARENTS CHOOSE TO BRING THEIR KIDS TO AND PICK THEM UP FROM SCHOOL AND THEY BLOCK A LOT OF STREETS AT 7:00 WE HAD A FIXED ROUTE GOING THROUGH THERE THAT THEY HAD ALTERNATIVES. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY ATTRACTIVE AND I ALSO THINK THAT THERE COULD BE SOME SHARING OF THIS.

SO HAVE CONSIDERED THAT OR ANY PLACE ELSE IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CARE TO GO FOR THAT

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AND I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THIS ONE BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN HELPING A MUNICIPALITY DISASSOCIATE FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD. IT WAS CONSIDERED A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION FINDING THAT THOSE RESOURCES HAVE TO BE KEPT EXPLICITLY SEPARATE THIS PARTICULAR GEORGIA TRANSIT AGENCY WAS OPERATING THE SCHOOL BUS SERVICE AND THEY WERE EXCHANGING RESOURCES FOR THAT SERVICE. IT WAS STILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BUT THEY RUNNING THE SCHOOL BUS ROUTES SO THEIR SYSTEM WENT FROM POINT 2 MILLION TRIPS A YEAR TO ROUGHLY 20,000 TRIPS A YEAR AFTER THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION GAVE THEM A CEASE AND DESIST. THAT WAS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO AND I DON'T IT'S IN THE NEWS .

I DON'T MIND SHARING THAT IN GEORGIA BUT THEY DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING AND IT MADE SENSE AND THEY CALLED THEM TROOPERS AND IT WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL MODEL FOR A SMALL URBAN COMMUNITY IN GEORGIA. THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATOR SESSION SAID THAT THAT WAS NOT ALLOWABLE, THAT IT WAS OFFSETTING LOCAL FOR A SCHOOL BOARD WHICH IS NOT MEETING THE MISSION OF THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION. SO WE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING AND HELPING THEM TO THAT PROBLEM AND REIMAGINE THEIR TRANSIT SERVICES AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE LEGISLATIVE INSTANCES WHERE NOW ALL TRANSIT IN THE COUNTRY WERE WATCHING AND WHEN THAT DECISION WAS MADE WE ALL KNOW TO RECOMMEND THAT WE DON'T TOO CLOSELY AFFILIATE WITH SCHOOLS THEY'RE IMPORTANT BUT WHEN FINANCIAL LINES BEGIN TO BLUR THAT'S FOR THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION AND I CAN SEE THAT FOR OUR BUSSES BUT THAT'S ALSO A CONCERN ABOUT THESE PARENTS NOT USING THE BUSSES ABSOLUTELY THAT COULD OR WOULD NOT BE IN CONFLICT WITH THIS FUNDING SO WE WORK HARD TO MAKE IT AS ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE AS AN ALTERNATIVE AND YOU SAW ON OUR KIND OF ALTERNATIVE SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE OR LESS THINGS LIKE BIKESHARE THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY SEE SOME OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IF HAD A BIKESHARE HUB NEXT TO THE SCHOOL WHERE FOLKS COULD EITHER THAT INSTEAD OF THE BUS OR IN COMBINATION WITH A BUS WITH A BIKE RACK ON THE FRONT AND THEN THEY CAN UTILIZE THAT AND WHATEVER FREQUENCY THEY NEED TO. NOW WE'VE EXPANDED OUR OPPORTUNITY AND ACCESS AND ATTRACTIVENESS. SO ABSOLUTELY WE HAVE MADE SURE THAT OUR ROUTES HIT THESE INTENTIONALLY. WE KNOW THEY'RE IMPORTANT NOT JUST FOR PARENTS DROPPING OFF STUDENTS, ALSO PARENT TEACHER CONFERENCES AND EVENTS. SO IT'S TOP OF MIND FOR US AND MAKING SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT LINE IS ATTRACTIVENESS AND RESOURCE VERSUS FINANCIAL RESOURCE. SO YES, ABSOLUTELY. BUT JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THERE'S TWO CHARTER SCHOOLS, ONE OF THEM ABSOLUTELY BLOCKS AWAY 170 AND START POINT MY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THE ONE COUNTRY MONTESSORI SCHOOL THAT BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS THAT CAUSED SO MANY TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THE PARENTS YEAH I'M A PARENT OF TWO AND BECAUSE I'M A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER I WALK MINE TO SCHOOL AND AGGRESSIVE TUTORING BUT I DO IN BETWEEN AND MY GROUP THAT DOES THAT IT IS A PROBLEM AND IT'S NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE REASONS CHILDREN ARE NOT PRESENT IN SCHOOL IS ASTHMA AND THAT'S AGGRAVATED BY THEM SITTING IN LINES WITH EMISSIONS COMING FROM VEHICLES AND THEY'RE INHALING THAT BEFORE THEY GET INTO SCHOOL. IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.

IT'S A PROBLEM FOR THEIR HEALTH AND FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY DESIGN POWER TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE AND THEN WE'LL LEAVE IT WITH BRIAN AND HIS TEAM TO MARKET THE HECK OUT OF IT AND WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT DURING IMPLEMENTATION THEY UNDERSTAND THE VALUE. THANK YOU FOR ONLY COMING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING RURAL AREAS.

THAT WAS A CONCERN OF MINE SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN I SAW THE INITIAL DESIGN, THE ROUTING AND HOW TO CONNECT COLLEGE YOU CONNECT RURAL AREAS TO TRANSIT SYSTEM SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU ALL ARE SPEAKING TO THE MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RECOGNIZING FLEXIBILITY MODELS AND THAT ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL WHEN WE THINK PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION WE THINK OF ALL OF OUR GOALS WORKING TO HELP THEM HAVE CHOICES FOR THAT FREEDOM FOR THEM TO THOSE CHOICES. DO I HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AS WE REDUCE TO MATCH LET'S MAKE SURE AND I HAVE THANKS MIKE NO NO AT THIS POINT I JUST WANT TO THANK MS.. HATCHER FOR HER PRESENTATION ALSO THANK YOU ME EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO MUCH. BUT YOU ALL KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME. THERE'S CONTACT INFORMATION ON THE FACT SHEETS.

YOU'LL ALWAYS KNOW HOW TO FIND STEPHANIE AND BRIAN AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU ALL BEFORE YOU LEAVE. BUT THERE'S THERE'S MORE TO BE IS AN INROAD TO ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO GO TO THE CITY

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,THE TOWN AND THE AND THE COUNTY WITH PRESENTATIONS THE FUTURE AS WELL.

WHAT I WOULD REALLY IF YOU COULD IS WHEN YOU GET TO THAT NEXT STEP WHERE YOU CAN FOLLOW THE TRANSPORTATION THE WAY YOU FINALIZE WHAT THE ROUTES ARE GOING TO BE AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE YOU COME BACK TO THIS BOARD AND PRESENT THAT IN COMMENTS. THINK ONCE WE CAN SEE THE ACTUAL IN A LARGER SCALE IT'S GOING TO GENERATE A LOT MORE INTEREST IN THE INFORMATION FOR US TO ABLE TO RESPOND TO IT.

WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT OR WHEN YOU GET TO THAT POINT AND WE SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING WITH YOU TO DO ANOTHER PRESENTATION THAT GIVES US THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE'LL ABSOLUTELY WORK WITH YOU ALL WHETHER THAT'S VIRTUAL OR IN-PERSON AND WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR SCHEDULE FOR THAT LITTLE BIT OF TIME WE HAVE LEFT IN THE STUDY.

ABSOLUTELY. WE RECOGNIZE IT'S IMPORTANT AND WE'LL SEND RESOURCES AS THEY'RE DEVELOPED AS WELL. I WANTED TO ADD YOU READ MY BEHIND BECAUSE LIKE WHEN I TALKED ABOUT MEETING WITH THE THREE PARTNERS UP HERE THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST PLACE TO DO IT AND BY THE TIME THAT MEETING WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE ALL THINKING DOLLARS AND CENTS WE'LL HAVE A MUCH PICTURE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST MAYBE TO DRILL DOWN A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAW ALREADY IN A SNEAK PEAK TODAY AND ALREADY LET ME BACK UP MY BUDGET CYCLE USED TO START IN DECEMBER JANUARY IT'S CONSTANT. I'M NOT WAITING I'M GOING TO START RIGHT NOW FOR FISCAL 27 BECAUSE WE GOT THIS GOING ON WHICH I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE I CAN'T WAIT TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE STUFF BUT WE'VE GOT THE ISSUES WE ALREADY HAVE AND SO WE HAVE TO BE ON STUFF AROUND THE CLOCK IT'S NOT A SEASON ANYMORE.

IT'S IT'S A WHOLE YEAR SO WE'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER FEELING FOR WHERE WE'RE HEADED WITH OUR BUDGET AS WELL. ALSO THE BIG PICTURE IMPACT AND THEN THE SMALL PICTURE SMALLER PICTURE WHAT THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE WILL LOOK LIKE SO WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE CAN EASILY IMPLEMENT WELL AND IF CAN GIVE US THAT SCHEDULE EARLY SO WE CAN THEN INVITE OUR COUNTERPARTS TO THE BOARDS TO THAT MEETING WHICH I THINK WILL HELP A LOT BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE I AT BOARDS AND OFFICIAL SETTINGS TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN FAST TRACKS AND THINGS. OKAY WELL I THINK THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ASK IS WOULD YOU PUT ALL THE MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD AND WE'LL GET YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION ON YOUR LIST SO THAT THEY SEE ALL THEM HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU'RE PLANNING IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT? ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK SOME ARE ALREADY OUT THERE. MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY I KNOW THERE'S FEW OF US ON THERE BUT YEAH AND THEN AND THEN EACH OF US CAN ADD NAMES TO THAT THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO THAT . I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS FOR NOW FOR A YEAR AND IT'S TO ME BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A REAL POSITIVE THING FOR THIS ENTITY . I THINK THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN LACKING IN THAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT THAT IS GOING TO HELP EVERYBODY LOWER INCOME PEOPLE, BOTH BUSINESSES ,THE COMMUNITY ARE TOURISTS. THE TRAFFIC EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF PEOPLE HAVE A TREMENDOUSLY IMPACT ON ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE THE WORK EFFORT ON THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW HOW INVOLVED MY ARMY IS IN THE COMMUNITY I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS ON A LOT OF ABOUT IT AND I PLAY PHONE TAG ON OUR CELL PHONES REGULARLY ANY ANY OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER TO HELP MORE HE HAS BEEN INVALUABLE TO THIS AND I COMMEND YOU ON YOUR EFFORTS AS WELL. THANK YOU. AND I HAVE A CONTINUING RESOURCE FOR THIS BOARD THIS BUT EVERY ONE OF YOUR INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES TO BECAUSE OF OUR OUR GROWTH THIS WHOLE AREA PLUS THE NEED FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT FUNDING IS JUST SO CRITICAL SO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS THE EARLIEST THE POSSIBLE SO I INVITE YOU TO INVITE US WHATEVER THAT MEANS WHETHER THAT'S ME AS OR WHETHER IT'S ME AND MY TEAM WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND THIS NORTHERN BEAUFORT AREA TO YOUR POINT, IT'S BEGGING FOR TRANSIT. I KNEW THAT THE MINUTE I MOVED OUT HERE TO OHIO IT'S BEGGING FOR IT SO I CAN'T WAIT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE LIKE THE BLUFFTON CONCERT WE HAVE.

WE'RE GOING HAVE PEOPLE WRITING. WE ARE PREPARING.

THE FINANCIAL MODELS WILL INCLUDE THE MANDATORY COMPLIMENTARY ADA PARATRANSIT

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SERVICE. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC, IF CAN THEY CAN APPLY FOR AND GET CERTIFIED TO USE ADA SERVICE THAT'S THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE OF ANY FIXED HELP THAT WE DO THAT'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR SERVICE FOR INDUSTRY.

WE'RE ALREADY TRANSPORTING A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE. THIS WILL BE EVEN BETTER AND I THINK LESS EXPENSIVE TO FROM THE NORTHERN STANDPOINT YOU HAVE A REPRESENTATION OF ALL PARTNERS OBVIOUSLY ON THIS GROUP AS WELL. SO IF YOU WOULD PROVIDE THIS MODEL SO THAT IT CAN BE DISTRIBUTED TO OUR COUNCILS AS WELL THAT SO THAT WE PROVIDE A BASE TO THEM TO WATCH THAT AND TO OTHERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOR WHAT COUNCIL REPORT FROM YOUR COUNCIL THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HERE BY FROM YOUR COUNCIL BUT BEEN THERE 11 WITH ALL OF THEM THROUGH SOUTH MCHALE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT AND A GREAT START TO THE WOMEN AND PREVENTION BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE EVERYBODY ON BOARD AS MUCH KNOWLEDGEABLE AS POSSIBLE.

YEAH YES REGIONAL IT'S THE NORTHERN REGION BUT IT'S VERY REGIONAL AND I REMEMBER WE WERE A FIVE COUNTY AUTHORITY SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS THE COMPUTER OUT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT AND I'LL BE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY ALL START BECAUSE THEY'RE SO BUT SO WE TRY TO AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INTEGRATE AS BEST WE CAN WITH ALL THOSE COMMUTER ROUTES TO MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT OVERALL OVERALL EFFICIENT AS WELL.

BUT FROM THAT STANDPOINT WE RECOGNIZE IMPORTANCE FOR TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE OF THE OVERVIEW OF OUR MULTI COUNTY RELATIONSHIP AS SO IT'S IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS TO BE KNOWLEDGEABLE AS WELL AND MOST OF ALL DURING THIS WEBINAR STUDYING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION BUT THE LAST ELEMENT OF THAT WAS THE PARK AND RIDE ELEMENT GOT THE BUS STOPS AND EVERYTHING BUT PARTICIPATION FROM EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN HELPING PROVIDE AREAS FOR PARK AND RIDE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR PEOPLE IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS AND SO I WOULD LIKE ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES START THINKING ABOUT AREAS THAT GOOD FOR PARK AND RIDE AREAS LIKE YEAH THEY WIN LAKE AREA IS A REAL CATCHMENT AREA JUST AS AN EXAMPLE BUT START THINKING ABOUT THOSE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES THOSE LOCATIONS BECAUSE THE QUICKER WE CAN EITHER SET THOSE IN PLACE THE BETTER OFF WE'RE GOING TO BE AS WELL. AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH MICHAEL.

THIS COMMENT AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH AND MY MIND RAIL ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE PENNY SALES TAX COMING UP AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS I MADE TO THE COUNCIL WAS THAT IT WAS ENOUGH SPECIFICITY IN THE PLAN FOR THE LAST OPTION IS MAYBE AS MUCH SPECIFICITY CAN GIVE US TO HELP US BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT SECTION OF THE REFERENDUM I THINK WAS LIKE THE HUB OR THE FACILITATOR MIGHT SOMETHING IF WE HAD A DOLLAR AMOUNT WE COULD WE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHERE IT WOULD BE BUT WE COULD PUT THIS WE COULD PUT IT IN THE REFERENDUM. OKAY.

THE CAPITAL PROBLEM CAPITAL IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE IT I THINK SO YOU CAN GET SOME BUY INTO WHATEVER GOOD COMES FROM THAT FROM THE OBSERVER OR YOUNGER WORKERS CAN HAVE MORE TIME WRITE AND WE RECOGNIZE EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE I LIVE IN SAVANNAH AND I CAN COME OVER AND SPEND TIME MY MOTHER HERE IN THE COMMUNITY WE RECOGNIZE THAT A LINE THE MAP IS NOT SUFFICIENT AND I WOULD NEVER DO IF ANY OF MY COMPETITORS THE PREVIOUS PLANET BLOGS AND BUT WE HAVE A LOCAL SUB CONSULTANT AND THEY HAVE A COPY OF ALL THE ROUTES THEY MANAGE YOUR PENNY TAX PROGRAM AND WE'VE TASKED AND CHALLENGED THEM TO COME UP WITH INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORTIVE PROJECTS AND COSTING THEM AND PROVIDING YOU WITH SCHEMATICS SO THAT AS WE MOVE IN TO IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PLAN YOU'RE NOT LEFT WITH A WIDE SWATH ON A MAP BUT RATHER IMPLEMENTABLE PROJECTS NOT JUST THE TRANSIT BUT ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAKES US SUCCESSFUL. SO IT WAS IMPORTANT TO US TO GIVE YOU MORE THAN JUST A PLAN BUT RATHER A ROAD MAP WITH ACTUAL TOOLS USE.

SO YES, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS STORY AND I'M GLAD YOU INCLUDE INTERFERING IN YOUR PROPOSAL BECAUSE THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT'S NOT WHAT I THINK.

I'LL LET THE COUNCIL I HAVE I SMILE WHEN I SAY IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE DIFFERING OPINIONS BUT WE WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T AT LEAST REFLECT ON HOW WE CONNECT.

[6. SELECTION OF NEXT MEETING AGENDA ITEM(S)]

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU OKAY? WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE GOING ON THAT I REMAIN WE TALKED ABOUT DESPITE OUR WORK AT THE TIME IT MIGHT BE RIGHT FOR US TO START WORKING AT THE PART OUR OUR COUNTY LISTENS FUNDS TO INITIATIVE STARTED AND WE ALSO RECEIVED A CALL FOR IDEAS UPDATED STUDY AND THOSE ARTICLES HAVE PAPERS THAT WILL ONLY REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE MIGHT MY ANOTHER TOPIC I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY IS RECEIVING SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE AND THAT'S IMPORTANT MY THOUGHTS ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO IN THE MUNICIPALITY ALL ADOPTED THE SAME ORDINANCES THE COUNTY IN EXCHANGE FOR THE COUNTY PROVIDING THOSE IDENTICAL SERVICES TO SPOUSES AS AND SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN GET A LOOK AT WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WELL THEY WERE BUT THERE'S A PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED LAST TIME AND IT SEEMS THE PROCESS WAS A THIS TIME AND SO I JUST I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS I CAN SHARE, WHAT ASPECTS ON THE BACK OF MATERIAL UP THERE'S ONE AMENDMENT THAT'S ON BOARD ASH JUST AN APPEAL PROCESS BUT HAVE ANY OF THE MUNICIPALITIES ADOPTED? NO, NO, WE HAVE ADOPTED, YEAH. SO I STILL DON'T KNOW THAT THAT COORDINATION STILL NEEDS TO WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE SO WE CAN BEST SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS AND MAKE IT EVEN BETTER FOR US TO DO A COOPERATIVE. YES, WE TRY TO HELP.

YOU KNOW, I THAT ABSOLUTELY ON THAT POINT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS THAT I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO COORDINATE WITH ALL OF US WITH THE COUNTY WITH THE CITY AND THE TOWN THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL DEVELOPING OUR CODE STANDARDS AT THIS POINT I KNOW WE ARE DEEP INTO THAT AND SO WE'VE GOTTEN INTO A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT I THINK CROSS ALL OF OUR LINES AND OR MAY WANT TO BE SOME CONSISTENCY IN WE DO THAT AND THERE'S THINGS I KNOW SETBACKS FROM WHAT MAKES THIS ON THE DOCKS IS ONE THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE KINDS OF ITEMS THAT MAYBE MAYBE WE COULD PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF ALL THOSE ITEMS OF COORDINATION OF CODES THAT WOULD BE WOULD BE GOOD TO PUT ON THE TABLE AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT BACK TO THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE DEVELOPING THOSE CODES TO PUT INTO PLACE.

I THINK ELIZABETH MAYBE WE COULD PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF THOSE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST PUT ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION FOR OUR NEXT MEETING IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE ON HERE AND JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THEM BY ITEM BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE ALL BEEN LOOKING AT THEM QUITE A BIT INDIVIDUALLY LET'S PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND SEE IF THERE'S CONSISTENCY IN OUR THOUGHT PROCESSES. OKAY SO MAYBE MORE ABOUT OUR MEETING IF WELL MAYBE WE MAYBE WE BREAK IT OUT INTO DIFFERENT AREAS.

YEAH I DON'T WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE BUT WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE BUT AT LEAST WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S THOUGHT PROCESSES ARE AND WHERE WE THINK YOU KNOW THINGS SHOULD BE COUNCIL AND AT THE SAME TIME I THINK WE WILL SOME INFORMATION FROM A FEDERAL STANDPOINT OR A PARTNER STANDPOINT OF WHAT OTHER ENTITIES ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT AND DOING SAME TIME TO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS OR OR WE COULD JUST CALL THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS AT THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN RELATED TO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES BUT I LIKE TO GET LAUNDRY LIST OF ALL THE ISSUES AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS EACH ONE OF THEM AND MAYBE JUST BRIEFLY AND WE COULD SET IT UP TO HAVE A DEEPER DISCUSSION

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LATER ON. WE DON'T WIND UP WITH, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN A ONE HOUR MEETING AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS I THINK FROM A PUBLIC WITH THAT I'LL ENTERTAIN THE FOR A GENERAL SO WHEN I SECOND VOTE IN SEGMENT

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