[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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          ALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE AUNT HERE LET MICHAEL BROWN HERE ENCOURAGE YOUR VIDEO, YOUR BIRTHDAY AND GROW YOUR WILLPOWER HERE. 
          OKAY. GLAD EVERYBODY CAN MAKE IT TONIGHT. 
          [III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]
NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER 9:30 P.M. UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE 9:30 P.M. MAY BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OR A 
          [IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
SPECIAL MEETING DATE AS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AT THAT TIME DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE MINUTES FOR MAY 28TH AND A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION, ANY CHANGES ALL 
          [V. PUBLIC COMMENT]
IN FAVOR I AM OPPOSE THAT PASSES AND WE ARE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT I GET TO READ THIS WONDERFUL THING DURING PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 3 MINUTES PER MEETING REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE PERSON IS SPEAKING ON THEIR OWN BEHALF OR IS AN AGENT FOR OTHERS MEETING MAY NOT DONATE TRANSFER YIELD OR GIVE ANY OR ALL PORTION OF THEIR SPEAKING TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON. ALL PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE TO BE CONDUCTED FROM THE PODIUM AND DIRECTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO ANY MEMBER THEREOF. 
          ALL SPEAKERS SHALL MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE PARTICIPATING IN OR PRESENT AT THE MEETING. SPEAKERS SHALL BE EXPECTED TO BE CIVIL IN THEIR LANGUAGE AND SHALL FROM COMMENT OR BEHAVIOR THAT INVOLVES DISORDERLY SPEECH OR ACTION NAME CALLING, PERSONAL ATTACKS, THREATS OBSCENE OR INDECENT REMARKS AND OR DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS. 
          ALL SPEAKERS SHALL COMBINE THEIR COMMENTS TO ISSUES UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SPEAKERS SHALL NOT USE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO PROMOTE OR ADVERTISE AWARDS BUSINESSES, SERVICES, GOODS OR CANDIDATES FOR PUBLIC OFFICE. 
          ANY SPEAKER THAT VIOLATES THESE RULES AND PROTOCOLS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT MAY BE RULED OUT OF ORDER BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER. ANY PERSON WHOSE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RULED OUT OF ORDER SHALL IMMEDIATELY AND DESIST FROM FURTHER IMPROPER COMMENTS. 
          THE REFUSAL OF AN TO DESIST FROM FURTHER IMPROPER COMMENTS MAY SUBJECT THE TO REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING AND OR A CITATION UNDER TWO DASH 49 OF TOWN CODE . 
          FORTUNATELY IN PLANNING COMMISSION WE HAVE NEVER COME CLOSE TO THAT BUT WE DO HAVE TO READ THAT NOW. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU PRESENT WE ARE CITIZENS JUST LIKE YOU WE VOLUNTEER TIME TO DO THIS. WE TRY AND DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH THIS. 
          JUST KEEP IN MIND WE'RE NOT HERE TO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY. 
          YOU KNOW ALL BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT OH YEAH I MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT. YEAH SORRY FOR YOUR ERA NOW WHEN YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM PLEASE WHEN YOU GET UP TO THE MICROPHONE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS MARY MURPHY GUERRERO FOR CINNAMON FERN AND FERN LAKES WE LIVE IN FERN LAKES OFF OF BOONE CHURCH ROAD AND WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THE ABOVE REFERENCED PROJECT BEING THE LEAD SLASH FOR CHURCH PROPOSAL THIS PROJECT IMMEDIATE BY ITS OWNERS IN FERN LAKES AND WILL AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE OVERALL PROPERTY VALUES OF FERN LAKES HOMES THE HOMES IN THE WORK WHY DID THE OWNER HIS PROPERTY TO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS IT BECAUSE HE WAS UNABLE TO GET A PROJECT APPROVED? BEAUFORT COUNTY THIS PROJECT CLEARLY DOES MEET THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ORDINANCES FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT AND NOT HAVING HEARD EVERYTHING THE COMMISSION YET I AM NOT SURE YOU KNOW AS FAR THE ZONING GOES BUT THE PROJECT A 20 FOOT SETBACK WHEN THE TOWN REQUIRES A 100 FOOT SETBACK OF ANY BUILDING STRUCTURE POND ETC. 
          THE POND WHICH IS PART OF THE 100 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS PROPOSED TO BE APPROXIMATELY 33 FEET FROM THE FRONT LAKES HOMEOWNERS ON BRACKEN FERN SO CLOSE THAT ANY LARGE RAIN EVENT COULD SPILL OVER ONTO THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEN PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE TOTAL IMPERVIOUS IMPACT ON THE LOT IS LESS THAN AN ACRE. THE NOISE FROM A CAFE MARKET ESTABLISHMENT WILL ALSO ADVERSELY AFFECT THE ABUTTERS ENJOYMENT OF THEIR YARDS AND MAKE THEIR PROPERTIES LESS DESIRABLE. WHERE WILL THE DUMPSTERS BE PLACED? HOW WILL TRASH AND WASTE BE DEALT? 
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THE TRAFFIC IMPACT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT ALREADY BUSY BURN CHURCH ROAD AND AFFECT RESIDENTS ENTERING AND EXITING FERN LAKES THE WALK AND BURN CHURCH PARK THE COMMERCIAL STRIP DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE WORK SINCE THE SIDEWALKS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PROMISED YEARS AGO HAVE BEEN PUT ON THE BACK BURNER SO TO SPEAK. THIS DEVELOPMENT AND DRIVE THRU MAKES ANY PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC EVEN MORE DANGEROUS ON BURKE CHURCH, THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL MEETS ALL OF THE STANDARDS ORDINANCES THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL OWNERS FROM ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS ADVERSELY AFFECTING THEIR PROPERTIES THIS PLAN AS PROPOSED DOES NOT MEET THOSE STANDARDS IN ORDINANCES. THEREFORE WE ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS PROJECT AND I SUBMITTED THAT AS WELL AS MY HUSBAND FRANK AND CYNTHIA TO MEETING I THANK SANDY DID ASKING AND JUST TO REMIND HER NAME AND ADDRESS OKAY HI GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU I'M SANDY AND I LIVE AT EIGHT CINNAMON FERN IN FERN LAKES I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF BLUFFTON SINCE 1989 SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE DISAPPOINTMENT WE FOUND OUT THAT THE 2018 SALES TAX WHICH ALL PAID FOR AND VOTED FOR IS GOING TO BE NO . WE DEFINITELY NEED SIDEWALKS AND BIKE PATHS ON THAT ROAD. IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT I BELIEVE THERE'S THE FIRE WITHIN THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON ON CHURCH ROAD . 
          IS THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY OR IS THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON? I CANNOT ADDRESS DIRECTLY. 
          OKAY. WELL ANYWAY I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GET THE RECORDS OF HOW MANY TIMES THAT FIRE TRUCK GOES UP AND DOWN BURN CHURCH ROAD EVERY DAY CONSTANT SIRENS EVERY DAY ON BURN CHURCH ROAD AND THEN THERE'S THE SCHOOL AND THE PRE-K CENTER AND. 
          THEN IT'S ALSO AN EVACUATION ROUTE SO WE HAVE A TWO LANE ROAD THAT HAS NO BIKE PATHS, NO SIDEWALKS. IT IS A FIRE DEPARTMENT ROAD, A SCHOOL ROAD AND AN EVACUATION ROUTE. SO I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE TAKE THAT CONSIDERATION AND ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE OF US IN FERN LAKES THAT TRY TO GET OUT THAT ROAD EVERY DAY. 
          I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR. I KNOW WE ARE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY SO ON THE BORDER OF THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON SO I'M HOPING THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON WILL PUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD HATS AND PLEASE LOOK AT IT FROM THAT STANDPOINT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND NO HARM. 
          THAT'S NO HIGHER TEN CINNAMON FERN AND FERN LIKES WITHOUT REPEATING EVERYTHING THE FIRST TO PUBLIC SPEAKERS HAVE JUST SAID I AGREE EVERYTHING THEY HAVE SAID AND HOW IT AFFECTS THE PROPERTY VALUES. IF THAT 121 CHURCH CAFE MARKET PARKING SPACE RUNOFF LAGOON AND SO FORTH IS DEVELOPED AND ANOTHER CONCERN IS SINCE THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED WITH TWO ADJACENT PROPERTIES NEXT TO IT THAT THAT COULD ALSO IMPACT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN MORE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS IN THAT AREA AND I'M I JUST LIKE THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING TONIGHT HAVE ALREADY OPPOSED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AND THOSE THAT WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT A OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          MATTHEW GAJEWSKI GREAT TY MATT GAJEWSKI THREE CINNAMON FERN HERE IN BLUFFTON AND FLINT LAKES. I DON'T THINK I CAN SAY IT ANY BETTER THAN MY FELLOW HERE ABOUT OPPOSITION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT ON 121 BRIDGE CHURCH ROAD FOR ALL THE SAME REASONS INCLUDING THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PEOPLE BUY HOUSES IN THAT AREA IS BECAUSE A RELATIVELY LARGE, HEAVILY WOODED PRIVATE THERE IT'S A IT'S A NICE PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE OF THE PRIVACY AND I'M CONCERNED THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR ENTIRE PART OF BRYAN CHURCH ROAD NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC INCREASE BUT ALSO THE LACK OF PRIVACY IN THE CHANGE TO THOSE PARTICULAR MINE HAPPENS TO BE UP AGAINST ANOTHER PROPERTY ON BURN CHURCH SO MY BACKYARD IS I LOVE IT THE WAY IS OBVIOUSLY THAT THAT'S PERSONAL AND PRIVATE BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRECEDENT IT SETS FOR THE REST OF OUR CHURCH ROAD ALL UP AND DOWN. SO I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT THAT TRENT WILLIAMSON WAS 
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CARRYING. MY NAME IS TRENT WILLIAMSON LIVE IT FOR BRACKEN FERN IN FERN LAKES AND MY PROPERTY BACKS UP DIRECTLY TO THE SITE OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT 121 BURN CHURCH FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU TO THE TOWN YOU'VE ANSWERED LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          I'VE PESTERED YOU A LITTLE BIT AND YOU'VE BEEN GENEROUS WITH TRYING TO EXPLAIN SOME INCONSISTENT ORDINANCES AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT LANGUAGE I STILL FRANKLY FIND INCONSISTENT CONFUSING BUT IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT AND BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO TRY TO WORK WITH ME I'M OPPOSED BUT BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST READING IN THE SPIRIT THAT I WANT TO NOT OPPOSE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT BUT ASK QUESTIONS AND RAISE ABOUT A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. DAPHNE DESCRIBES THIS AS A CAFE MARKET WITH SMALL IN A PARK LIKE SETTING FOR REMOTE WORKERS . 
          I THINK THAT'S A CO-WORKING SPACE. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS BY THAT BUT AS A SOMEONE MARRIED TO A PERSON THAT WAS A EXECUTIVE FOR A CO-WORKING SPACE COMPANY THAT IS STILL INCREDIBLY VAGUE AND CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE INCREDIBLY HIGH VOLUME A REVOLVING DOOR SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN WHICH WOULD DIRECTLY AFFECT TRAFFIC, PARKING AND COMPATIBILITY ADJACENT HOMES. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRIVE THRU I HAVE THAT PLAY IN THE BACK YARD THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY NEXT TO THIS DRIVE THRU DRIVE THRUS ARE FOR HIGH VOLUME THEY SIT IN CARS OFTEN SIT IDLE THEY PRODUCE FUMES THOSE ARE THINGS OF COURSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT AND I'M A FATHER THIS IS ALSO ON AN INFAMOUSLY DANGEROUS ROAD. THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. THAT IS THE COUNTY HAS TAKEN A LIFETIME TO FIX AND MAKE SIDEWALKS BUT I'M AFRAID THAT THIS WILL INCREASE DANGER OF THAT AND AND WITHOUT THAT IMPROVEMENT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT DRIVE THRUS ARE TO TO HELP PRODUCE VOLUME TRAFFIC AND GET THAT IN AND OUT WHICH WILL OF COURSE CREATE MORE AND THERE'S NO WAY TO SAFELY WALK OR BIKE ON THIS ROAD. OF COURSE I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT THAT I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE BUT IT IS MERE FEET FROM OUR PROPERTY LINES AND THAT JUST OF COURSE CONCERNS OF WHO WILL MANAGE THE THE THE CLEANING OF IT WILL NOT BECOME A MOSQUITO FARM ALL THOSE OF THINGS THAT OF COURSE AS PROPERTY OWNERS WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT NOW I WANT TO SAY FOR LAKES IS A COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO LOVE BLUFFTON, WHO WORK IN BLUFFTON I DON'T THINK WE'RE OPPOSED TO GROWTH BUT WE ARE COMMITTED MAKING SURE THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STAYS AND THAT OUR PROPERTY ARE NOT DECREASED BY A PROJECT. AND SO WITH THAT I'M SAYING IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY MERIT TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER I WOULD LOVE ANSWERS. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A CLOSER REVIEW BEFORE SAYING LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD. MY REQUEST IS THAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ARE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO, PROVIDE THOSE ANSWERS AND CONSIDER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR SO. 
          WE CAN DO THE SAME TO THAT OWNER AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS UNDER CLOSURE REVIEW. THANK YOU. IT DAY NOW ON TO NEW BUSINESS 
          [VII.1. Fifth Third Bank at May River Crossing (Development Plan): A request by Angelina Makowski of BDG Architects on behalf of property owner, First Chatham Bank, for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan application. The project consists of the construction of a new freestanding 2,400 SF bank facility with associated parking, landscaping, and infrastructure. The property is within the Jones Estate Planned Unit Development (PUD) consists of 1.33 acres identified by tax map number R610 036 000 3213 0000 within the May River Crossing Master Plan north of May River Road east of May River Crossing. (DP-03-25-019666) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]
DO APOLOGIZE AGAIN FOR THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS FIFTH THIRD BANK OF MAY RIVER CROSSING DEVELOPMENT PLANS A REQUEST BY ANGELINA MURKOWSKI ARCHITECTS BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER FIRST CHALLENGE BEG FOR APPROVAL A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION THE PROJECT CONSISTS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FREESTANDING 2400 SQUARE FOOT BANK FACILITY WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING, LANDSCAPING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE JONES ESTATE PUDI CONSISTS OF 1.33 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MAP NUMBER IN THIS AGENDA WITHIN THE MAY RIVER CROSSING MASTER PLAN NORTH OF MAY RIVER ROAD AND EAST OF MAE RIVER CROSSING. MR. FRAZIER THANK YOU MR. CHERRY. IT IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR FIFTH THIRD BANK OF ME RIVER CROSSING AND ALREADY STATED THAT THE REQUEST BY ANGELINA MURKOWSKI OF BDC ARCHITECTS ON BEHALF OF FIRST CHATHAM COUNTY BANK FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THE APPLICANT PROPOSED THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE STOREY FREESTANDING 2690 SQUARE FOOT BANK FACILITY WILL HAVE AN ATM DRIVE THROUGH PARKING, LANDSCAPING AND ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE IS A 1.33 ACRE PROPERTY SONG GOLDEN STATE P.A. AND IT IS IN THE MAY RIVER CROSSING MASTER PLAN. THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY AS YOU'RE HEADED WEST DOWN MAY RIVER ROAD HEARD THIS IS THE TURN YOU WOULD TAKE INSIDE A PUBLIC SHOPPING AT MAIN RIVER ACROSS THE ROAD IT WOULD BE IMMEDIATELY ON YOUR RIGHT AS YOU ENTER INTO THE 
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RIVER CROSSING. WE'RE ON THE VERY SAME LOCATION RIGHT ABOVE IT IS THE COMPLEX THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH. IT'S A APPLICATION FOR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON AND IS SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE DELTA STATE PARTY AND THE MAIN RIVER CROSSING MASTER PLAN. IT IS AN OUT PARCEL WITHIN RIVER CROSSING AND UTILITIES HAVE BEEN SAID TO SERVE THIS SITE THE PROPERTIES WITH ALSO WITHIN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY WILL REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT REVIEWS LANDSCAPE LIGHTING AND ARCHITECTURE AND THAT AFTER THAT TIME A FINAL DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL OF STAFF COMMENTS ON THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WERE REVIEWED AT THE APRIL 30TH 2025 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING THEY SUBMITTED ON MAY 28 IS THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARCEL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS PART WILL BE DOWN HERE IN THE LOWER IT IS THE SOUTHEASTERN JUST THIS OVER THIS IS AN OVERALL MASTER IT HAS IT HAS A LOT OF REGIONAL STORMWATER PLAN AS WELL AS UTILITIES DUG TO THESE OUT PARCELS GOT PUBLIC LOCATED HERE STARBUCKS IS OUT THERE'S ASSOCIATED COMMERCIAL AROUND THE CORNER RIGHT HERE AND OF COURSE THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF 170 AND HIGHWAY 46. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. 
          THIS IS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER VIEW OF THE SITE PLAN AS I ALREADY STATED COMING IN OFF OF MAY RIVER ROAD YOU CAN ACCESS THE PROPOSED BANK DEVELOPMENT WITH IMMEDIATE RIGHT TURN ON. THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT PARTICULAR NUMBER TO THE PROVIDING 12 TO 15 PARKING SPACES. 12 OR 12 ARE REQUIRED. 
          HERE IS THE DRIVE THROUGH THESE IT'S GOT IT'S A TWO SIDED DRIVE THROUGH THE OUTSIDE IS THE ATM ONLY THE SIDE TO THE BANK WILL HAVE IS ALSO A TELLER DRIVE AND THERE WILL BE AN UNDERGROUND PNEUMATIC TUBE GOING TO THE BANK FROM THERE IS THE THE SECOND ACCESS POINT ACTUALLY COMES STRAIGHT OUT HERE TO THE NORTH WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN IT CIRCLE BACK AROUND BECAUSE IF YOU MAKE A RIGHT YOU'RE ACTUALLY WRAPPING AROUND THE BACK OF THE PUBLIC SQUARE. WE'RE QUOTING BANK SITE ITSELF IS 2609 SQUARE FEET. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE OF MAGNOLIAS THAT HAVE ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE SAVED ON THE PROPERTY. 
          I THINK THEY'RE BOTH 12 INCH MAGNOLIAS THAT THEY ARE BEING SAVED WITH PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THE 50 FOOT BUFFER OFF OF MAE RIVER ROAD IS PROVIDED. 
          THEY'VE ACTUALLY GOT A 75 FOOT SETBACK ANIMATION SHOWN CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN 310 THREE EIGHT OF THE UDL THESE ARE THE CRITERIA CRITERIA NUMBER TWO IS IS ONE THAT I'M GOING TO POINT OUT IT IS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOULD CONFORMANCE WITH ANY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COMMUNITY CONCEPT PLAN PRE MASTER PLAN SUBDIVISION PLAN OR ANY OTHER AGREEMENTS OR PLANS THAT ARE APPLICABLE STAFF FINDS THAT THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS IN CONFORMANCE THE TERMS OF STATE PARTY AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN. 
          HOWEVER PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES NOT CONFORM TO THE APPROVED MAY RIVER MASTER PLAN REQUIREMENT THAT ANY PARKING THE MINIMUM AMOUNT REQUIRED WILL BE DESIGNED IN PERVIOUS PARKING. SO THAT BEING THE CASE WOULD BE THREE REQUIRED PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD BE PERVIOUS THAT THAT'S AN FIX FOR THE APPLICANT BUT A REASON BRING IT UP IS BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE IT AS THE RECOMMENDED CONDITION APPROVAL PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION YOU CAN APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT YOU CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION CONDITIONS, YOU CAN TABLE THE APPLICATION OR YOU CAN DENY THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED A STAFF RECOMMENDATION WE WE DON'T RECOMMEND THAT TO YOU THAT YOU APPROVE IT AS SUBMITTED BUT SHOULD YOU SHOULD PLANNING PERMISSION CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TOWN STAFF FINDS THAT THE CONDITIONS SHOULD BE MET PRIOR TO FINAL PLANNING APPROVAL THAT WOULD BE ALL PROPOSED ONSITE PARKING MORE THAN THE REQUIRED 18 SPACES WILL BE DESIGNED AS PERVIOUS PARKING AT TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMIT IT SHOULD BE 15 AND IT'LL REQUIRE THREE PARKING SPACES AND I HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION HERE OF LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT DID YOU COME UP WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK OR 
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GOOD EVENING BRET NUMBER INFINITY ENGINEERING GROUP 12 THE WAY HE'S COUNTING BOULEVARD TAMPA FLORIDA 33602 WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONDITION TWO REGARDING THE ADDITIONAL THREE SPACE TO BE CONVERTED TO PERVIOUS WE'RE ACTUALLY THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT FRIDAY FOR THE FOR THE OTHER PROCEDURE WE'RE DOING FOR APPROPRIATENESS. SO WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST APPROVAL TONIGHT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH CONDITION OF THE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT AND I CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD. I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO DO MORE THAN JUST THE THREE AS THE MAY RIVER WATERSHED CRITICAL HERE SO ON DOWN ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT I MEAN YOU KNOW PERVIOUS WAS MY CONCERN THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GET WHAT WE AT IT'S AUGUST YOU MR. HOWARD ANYTHING I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. 
          MR. FRAZIER, YOU WANT TO PUT THAT SUGGESTED SUGGESTED AS YOU MENTIONED YEAH. 
          I'LL MOVE TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVED THE FIFTH THIRD BANK AND MAE RIVER CROSSING PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBJECT TO APPEASING THE REQUIRED OF PERVIOUS PARKING FOR THE FILING OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS LITTLE DO WE HAVE A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? I WAS IN FAVOR I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY THANK YOU ITEM. NUMBER TWO THE BLUFFTON 
          [VII.2. The Bluffton Bookshop (Development Plan): A request by Jonathan Marsh of Witmer Jones Keefer, Ltd., on behalf of property owners Jamie and Allyn Oliver for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan application. The project consists of the renovation of the existing 1,769 SF residential structure into a proposed bookstore and icery with associated parking and infrastructure. The property is zoned Neighborhood Conservation - Historic District (NC-HD) and consists of approximately 0.3 acres identified by tax map number R610 039 00A 0324 0000 and located at 89 Bridge Street in Old Town Bluffton Historic District. (DP-04-25-019713) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]
BOOKSHOP DEVELOPMENT PLAN A REQUEST MARCIA WITMER JONES KEEFER LTD ON BEHALF THE PROPERTY OWNERS ANN OKAY IS IT AILEEN LIN AND ALAN OLIVER FOR APPROVAL A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANNING APPLICATION THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF THE RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING 1769 SQUARE FOOT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE INTO A PROPOSED BOOKSTORE AND ICE RE WITH ASSOCIATED AND INFRASTRUCTURE THE PROPERTY IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION HISTORIC DISTRICT AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATE 8.3 ACRES AS IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MAP NUMBER IN THE AGENDA AND LOCATED AT 89 BRIDGE STREET IN OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT IS PRINCIPAL SESSION DETERMINED THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THE BLUFFTON BOOKSHOP LOCATED AT 89 BRIDGE STREET. IT'S A REQUEST BY JONATHAN MARSHALL WITMER JONES KEEFER ON BEHALF OF JAMIE AND ALAN OLIVER FOR APPROVAL OF THE ORDINARY DEVELOPER THROUGH THEIR PROPOSED PROPOSING THE RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING 1769 SQUARE FOOT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE INTO, A COMMERCIAL BOOKSTORE AND A THREE WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE THERE'S IN CARPORT ON THE PROPERTY ON THE PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DEMO THE APPLICANT PROPOSES NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED FOR THE GARAGE AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS A 0.3 ACRE PROPERTY ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION HISTORIC DISTRICT LOCATED AT 89 BRIDGE STREET IN THE OLD TOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IT IS ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO OYSTER FACTORY PARK PARKING LOT IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR THAT AT THE CORNER OR THERE'S AN AERIAL LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES LOCATED WITH ALL WITHIN THE TOWN STORE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT IN SUBJECT TO THE STANDARD SET FORTH IN THE UDL BEING REQUIRED 23 FOOT WIDE DRIVE APRON WILL BE COORDINATED AND INSTALLED PART OF A AS A PART OF THE TOWN BRIDGE STREETSCAPE PUBLIC PROJECT. IT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET IT'S GOING THROUGH APPROVAL PROCESS RIGHT NOW IT'S A PUBLIC PROJECT TO IMPROVE THE STREETSCAPE ALONG BRIDGE STREET THE EXISTING DRIVE CONNECTION TO OYSTER FACTORY PARK CANNOT CURRENTLY BE USED AS AN ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY THAT WE SEE IS HARD TO SEE ON HERE AND I'LL BRING I'LL OUT WHEN WE GET TO THE SITE POINT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES FOUR PARKING SPACES AND THE APPLICATION TO PROVIDE SIX SPACES PROPERTY WILL REQUIRE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HISTORIC DISTRICT THIS WILL BE REVIEWING LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING AND ARCHITECTURE STAFF COMMENTS ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE REVIEWED AT THE MAY 21, 2025 COMMITTEE MEETING A RECENT MIDDLE INCLUDING A RESPONSE TO COMMENTS WAS RECEIVED ON MAY 28, 2025. 
          THIS IS WHERE 3D FOR YOU BECAUSE I DON'T THINK EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT AN I3 IS 
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SO A 109 SQUARE FOOT I3 IS PROPOSED ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE NINTH IS UNIQUE. IT WAS CREATED AND PUT INTO THE UDL TO ALLOW FOR AN I3 IN A IN A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE PAST SO IT SITS IN THE UDL AND IT IS DEFINED AS A RETAIL BUSINESS THAT IS PRIMARILY ENGAGED IN THE SALE OF NON-FOOD OR BEVERAGE RELATED GOODS OR MERCHANDISE BUT THAT SELLS COFFEE , TEA, NONALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, PASTRIES CONFECTIONS, ICE CREAM GELATO SHAVING CREAM AND SHAVING SHAVING CREAM BUT SHAVED ICE AND AND OR FROZEN REFRESHMENTS INTENDED FOR DIRECT CONSUMPTION BY THE PURCHASERS THAT ARE SERVED BUT NOT COOKED OR SUBSTANTIALLY PREPARED ON THE PREMISES OF THE ESTABLISHMENT AND I3 IS ONLY PERMITTED AS A CONDITIONAL ACCESSORY USE BECAUSE RETAIL THE PROPOSED I3 WOULD WOULD WOULD BE LESS THAN 25% OF THE MAIN RETAIL BUSINESSES. HE DID SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEY ARE PROPOSING IS THE RETAIL BUSINESS PRINCIPALLY IN THE SALE OF THE GOODS AND MERCHANDISE MAY HAVE AN I3 AS A CONDITION OR ACCESSORY NO MORE THAN 25% OF THE RETAIL BUSINESS IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ALLOCATED FOR THE I3 AND NO OUTDOOR DINING AREAS WITH SEATING AND TABLES FOR CUSTOMERS MAY BE PROVIDED IF YOU WALK IN AND YOU PURCHASE IT YOU GOT TO EAT IT OFFSITE OR ON ON SITE PLAN AND A CLOSE OF THE SITE PLAN. SO THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING YOU ARE COMING IN WITH A 22 FOOT DRIVE THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE TWO WAY TRAFFIC TO THE PARKING IN REAR OF THE CARPORT. THAT WOULD BE DEMO FITS THIS SOUTH EASTERN CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AND SPACE ARE PROVIDED HERE THE HANDICAPPED SPACE IS PROVIDED HERE WITH THE PAY DAY ACCESS TO THE BUILDING THIS STORAGE SPACE THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. THE I3 WOULD BE HERE JUST TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY IS THE FACTORY PARK PARKING LOT. THIS IS A GRAVEL THAT IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO THE SLOT OVER THE PARKING LOT ITSELF IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY COUNTY. AS OF NOW IT CAN'T BE USED AS AN ACCESS IN ORDER IN THE PARKING TO BE USED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE ICB. THEY ARE ONE THING THAT WE DIDN'T CATCH AT AT A PRIOR TO PREPARING THE STAFF THE STAFF REPORT WAS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING SIDEWALK PAVER OR PAVERS OUTSIDE OF THE FRONT DOOR OF THE BUILDING. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY A BRIDGE STREET SIDEWALK THAT'S JUST NORTH OF THESE PAVERS BUT THESE ARE PAPER THAT PROVIDE ACCESS WALKING AROUND THE BUILDING AND ACTUALLY THE MAJORITY OF THE PAVERS ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE BRIDGE STREET SIT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          OH, THIS IS THE NCDOT RIGHT AWAY THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PUT THAT IN WITHOUT AN APPROVED ENCROACHMENT PERMIT FROM D.O.T.. I BELIEVE D.O.T. WOULD BE MORE PREFERABLE TO JUST HAVING THE STANDARD FOUR OR FIVE FOOT STUB SIDEWALK THAT GETS YOU OUT TO TO THEIR EXISTING SIDEWALK ON THE GROUND. SAME THING HERE IT IS SUBJECT TO THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION 310 THREE A THESE ARE THE CRITERIA PLANNING COMMISSION MAY APPROVE AS SUBMITTED APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TABLE THE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT TOWN STAFF PER THE PACKET WE WE RECOMMEND THAT THE CRIME COMMISSION APPROVE THE APPLICATION IS COMMITTED AND THAT IS JUST A MOTION I WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT I POINTED OUT IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS THE RIGHT OF WAY AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT I BELIEVE IS YES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT JONATHAN MARSH JONES COOPER THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING THEN THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE PAVERS AND THE OF WAY WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING AND WE ARE GOING TO ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE THE PAVERS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AT THE VERY LEAST WE MIGHT COME IN AND GO THAT ROUTE. THE FIVE FOOT WIDE WALKWAY CONNECTION CENTERED THE FRONT DOOR. BUT ASIDE FROM THAT IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN ANSWER ANY STRAIGHT HERE THIS TIME I'VE GOT A QUESTION I THINK FOR DAN A QUESTION ON THE 22 FOOT THE NEW DRIVEWAY APRON. RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S AN EXISTING IT'S JUST A DIRT GRAVEL DRIVE RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S GOING BE INCREASED TO A 22 FOOT DRIVE DO THAT AND YOUR YOUR YOUR STATEMENT WAS 
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THAT THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT TO CONSTRUCT THE NEW 22 FOOT APPEARS TO BE TABISH OR CONCRETE APRON I'M I'M CONFUSED AS TO THAT BRIDGE STREET STREETSCAPE PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN IT HAS IN THE APPROVAL SO IS BEING CONSIDERED NOW IN THE IN THE BRIDGE AND THE BRIDGE STREET STREETSCAPE PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THIS I HAD THE PROJECT MANAGER CONSTANCE HAD COME OVER TO ME AND SAID I WAS OUT ON THE SIDEWALK IN CHIEF SHE'S FOR THE PUBLIC PROJECT. SHE'S A PROJECT MANAGER SHE SAID WHILE SHE WAS OUT THERE SHE WOULD SHE THE OWNERS WERE THERE THEY HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT ABOUT THEIR TO BOOKS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN THE BOOKSTORE AND AT THAT TIME BETWEEN THE TWO THE DISCUSSION RESULTED IN IN CONSTANT THINKING IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT WHILE WE'RE DOING THE IMPROVEMENTS WE WOULD PROVIDE THE THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE 22 FOOT DRIVE TAPE AND IT WOULD REMAIN ONLY IMPROVEMENTS WOULD STILL BE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY NCDOT RIGHT AWAY IT WOULDN'T ENCROACH ON TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF, SHE SAID THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY CAN DO AS A FIELD DECISION WHILE THEY'RE OUT THERE SO SO REALLY I MEAN YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT WHICH IS THAT THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE UH THE TOWN BEARING THE COST OF THE IMPROVEMENT I THINK HER POINT WAS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE WELL IT'S PROPOSED IS TO TO FIX AND FACILITATE DRIVES AND ANY ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT EXISTING SIDEWALK AS PART OF THE STREETSCAPE PROJECT I THINK THEY'RE MINIMAL THIS AREA BUT BUT I CONSTANCE CAME TO AS A PROJECT MANAGER AND SAID THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WE CAN PROVIDE AT THIS TIME THE PROJECT CERTAINLY I CAN CARRY ON A CONTINUED WITH HER ON HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK EXACTLY THE ONLY THING SHE BROUGHT UP THAT THE ENCROACHMENT PERMIT ITSELF WOULD HAVE WOULD HAVE TO BE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S AGENT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO THE CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE CITY. OKAY. MR. MARSH, COULD YOU JUST INDICATE WHERE THE ENTRANCE WOULD BE FOR THE ADA ACCESSIBLE PARKING SPOT? HOW WOULD THEY WALK IN? YEAH. SO THERE IS AN RIGHT HERE AND THE CURRENT IS YOU KNOW THIS IS AN OPEN ENDED FLOOR PLAN SO THEY'D BE ABLE TO ACCESS THROUGH THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AND YOU KNOW SINCE WE WILL BE REMOVING THE FROM THE FRONT HERE ORIGINALLY THAT WAS OUR ADA ACCESS TO THE ICE RE WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY TIE IN THE SIDE HERE AND ALLOW THEM TO WHEEL AROUND OR I HAD A QUESTION FOR DAN UNDER THE COMMERCIAL USE IS THIS IS ALLOWABLE USE RENTAL EQUIPMENT SOMETHING ASSOCIATED THE RIVER LIKE RENTAL PADDLE PADDLEBOARDS OR WHATEVER CAN THEY USE THAT STORAGE USE THIS FRONT STORE AS A RENTAL FACILITY? I DON'T THINK THEY THINK I THINK RENTAL EQUIPMENT BEING ALLOWED USE BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IT IS ALLOWABLE BUT IT IS ALLOWABLE. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP, YOU KNOW. SURE. 
          BUT I THINK IT IS IT'S AN IT WOULDN'T BE A REASON FOR IT NOT TO BE. 
          AND YOUR QUESTION IS COULD THEY ACTUALLY USE THAT STORAGE UNIT BACK THERE IS IS AS A BUSINESS ITSELF THAT THE RENT NOW NOT ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW WENT TO THE BOOKSTORE AND I'M SORRY ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS ONE MORE TIME OR IS THIS THE VIEW WILL NOT SEE THIS IT GETS A CO FOUR THAT GOES THROUGH THE HPC AND HPC PROCESS BUT IT WILL GO THROUGH THIS SORT OF PRESERVATION FINAL AND I THINK IF THE STORAGE AREA WERE TO BECOME RETAIL IN ITS OWN RIGHT WE'D HAVE TO REVISIT PARKING AND ALL THAT PART OF THE REASON FOR RIGHT AND AND DO ALL THAT DO WE HAVE ENOUGH ARE THE BEDS AND SCREENING AND EVERYTHING PER THE AREA FOR COMMERCIAL WE DO LET ME SEE IF I HAVE WHAT THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE PROVIDING MORE THAN 75% OF OF IS THERE ANYTHING COVERAGE MORE ASKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PLANTINGS AROUND THE FOUNDATION IS THERE A MINIMUM DIMENSION FOR THOSE THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET BUT WHAT THEY DID POINT OUT AND I DIDN'T POINTED OUT IN OUR SLIDE BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE ACTUALLY 
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PROVIDING LESS THAN THEY PUT IN THIS LOCATION AND THE REASON THEY'RE THEY'RE PROVIDING LESS THAN A FOOT IS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS 22 FOOT DRIVE. THEY'VE MENTIONED THAT IN THEIR NARRATIVE WHERE WE'RE WE'RE ASKING FOR THE 22 FOOT DRIVE AND IT'S AN EXISTING SO WE'RE ACCEPTABLE IN THEM HAVING LESS THAN ANY PREVIOUS THE OPPOSITE SIDE HERE WHERE THEY HAVE PAVERS AS PART OF THEIR ADA ACCESS THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING THAT THEY PUT ON WAS PARKING AND IT'S BEEN ANSWERED SO ADA WAS WORKING ON PARKING THE ONLY WELL ONE QUESTION IS THE DRIVE SHOULD BE GRAVEL OR IS IT PAVED GRAVEL IS SAME PERVIOUS CONCERN THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OPINION AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE IS STRONG SUGGESTION THAT I VOICED IN DRC AND THAT IS TO PUT LANDSCAPING ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE WITH OYSTER FACTORY PARK OR YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT PRETTY QUICK THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARK IN YOUR SIDE YARD BECAUSE WHEN PARKING SPOTS ARE GONE THEY'RE GOING TO PARK WHEREVER THEY CAN AND IF ISN'T A BARRIER OF SOME TYPE YOU KNOW CAN STILL HAVE A NICE ENTRY WITH THE SIDEWALK AND SO ON BUT JUST STRONG SUGGESTION. OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU. THANK YOU THANK YOU. 
          AND MR. FRAZIER, DO YOU WANT TO PULL UP THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION? WE HAVE A MOTION MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BLOCK TO BOOKSHOP PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION WITH THE CONDITION OF THE PAVERS. 
          I THINK THEY ALREADY MADE THAT COMMENT BUT THE PAVERS IN THE RIGHT AWAY OMITTED WOULD SO THAT PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSION I ONLY HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE THAT PAVERS OMITTED A ENCROACHMENT COMMENT BY D.O.T. WHICH I'D LIKE TO I GUESS I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT WE HAVE A SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT SECOND ON FAVOR OF THE UP SORRY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT I OH ALL IN FAVOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THE ORIGINAL MOTION ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTION I OPPOSED NONE SEEING AS NONE OPPOSED IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU AND MR. YOU'RE 
          [VII.3. 121 Burnt Church (Development Plan): A request by Anthony Morse of Macad One Consulting Services, LLC on behalf of the property owner My Nash Realty Corp for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan application. The project consists of a 4,464 SF commercial building with drive through, parking and associated infrastructure. The property is zoned Neighborhood Core (NC) and consists of approximately 0.83 acres identified by tax map number R610 040 000 0164 0000 and located within the Highway Corridor Overlay District. (DP-03-25-019673) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]
STAYING UP HERE AREN'T YOU? YES, I AM. OKAY. 
          ITEM NUMBER I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN THE CROWD HERE 121 BYRD CHURCH DEVELOPMENT PLAN A REQUEST BY ANTHONY MORRIS OF MCAD ONE CONSULTING SERVICES ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER MENASHE REALTY CORP. FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION. THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF A 4464 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH DRIVE THRU PARKING AND ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PROPERTY IS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD CORE AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY .83 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MAP IN THIS AGENDA NUMBER IN THIS AGENDA AND LOCATED WITHIN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT. BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS MR. FRAZIER JUST SO THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING IN THE ROOM OF THE PROCESS THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN PRELIMINAR APPROVAL THAT'S BEING REQUESTED TONIGHT AFTER THIS IT WOULD GO FOR HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT APPROVAL ASSUMING IT MOVE FORWARD AND I'M NOT SAYING IT WILL OR WON'T BUT IF IT MOVES FORWARD IT GOES FOR THE APPROVAL WHICH LOOKS AT ARCHITECTURE SETBACKS, LANDSCAPE LIGHTING FOR THE GROUND FOR APPROVAL AND THEN IF ALL COMES THROUGH AND GETS APPROVED THEN IT GOES TO FINAL IS A IT'S STILL A PUBLIC MEETING BUT IT'S MORE WITH STAFF WITH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE. THAT'S CORRECT YEAH OKAY SURE WHEN THEY COME THROUGH FOR THE COPA TO SEE HOW IT IS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THEN IT COMES FORWARD TO HERE FOR APPROVAL AND THEN FINAL GOES THROUGH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE IF RIGHT AFTER SOMEWHAT OF PERMANENT OKAY OKAY JUST WANT TO MAKE THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS THROUGH SEVERAL IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THEY ARE WITHIN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 121 FOR CHURCH ROAD THE REQUEST BY MORRIS OF MCAD ONE CONSULTING SERVICES LLC ON 
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BEHALF OF MENASHE REALTY CORPORATION FOR APPROVAL THE FLOOR LUMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THE APPLICANT PROPOSES CONSTRUCTION OF A 4464 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL WITH A DRIVE THRU PARKING AND ASSOCIATED AT THE 0.83 ACRE PROPERTY IS ON NEIGHBORHOOD CORNER LOCATED EAST OF BURT CHURCH ROAD AND SOUTH THE FIRM DRIVE THAT IT PROPOSES LOT LINE REVISION I'LL SHOW YOU THE LOCATION OF THAT AND THAT WOULD RESULT IN A NEW ACREAGE OF APPROXIMATELY 1.08 ACRES. THERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED ON BURT CHURCH ROAD. 
          THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY WHERE WE'RE SHOWING WE'RE SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS TWO PARCELS. IT'S ACTUALLY A IT'S THIS PARCEL OF APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 25% OF THE ADJACENT PARCEL AFTER THEY DO THE LAND LINE REVISION. 
          SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT LOCATED WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONLY DISTRICT AND SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS SET FORTH IN THE UNIO THE PROPERTY IS IN THE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY WILL REQUIRE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS A D REVIEW AND LANDSCAPING I ARCHITECTURE AS MENTIONED BY THE CHAIRMAN THE APPLICANT PROPOSED A 4464 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING INCLUDING THE POSSIBILITY OF A 1000 FOOT THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WITH THE ASSOCIATED DRIVEWAYS ACCESS PARKING, UTILITIES AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE BOTH REQUIRES 18 PARKING SPACES AND 18 ARE BEING PROVIDED THERE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES 20% OPEN SPACE AND THEY'RE PROVIDING AN APPROXIMATELY 40% OPEN SPACE. 
          THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED THE THIS PROPERTY PROVIDES A REQUIRED 50 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BURT CHURCH ROAD FOUR OVER THE REQUIRED TEN FOOT FRONT SETBACK OFF OF THE 50 PLUS OFFER IS NOT PROVIDED AND PER TABLE 5A3B AND FOOTNOTE TWO SAYS THAT ANY BUILDING SETBACKS NEED TO COME OFF OF ANY BUFFERS THAT ARE REQUIRED. BUFFERS ARE PART OF THE ZONING ANNEXATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY REQUIRES A 100 FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING SETBACK ALONG THE EASTERN LINE AND A TEN FOOT RESIDENTIAL VEGETATED BUFFER A BUILDING SETBACK ALONG THE EASTERN AND NORTHERN LINES . THAT AGREEMENT WAS INCLUDED AS AN ATTACHMENT IN THE PACKET. THE PLAN DOES NOT INCLUDE AN EIGHT FOOT EIGHT FEET OF FOUNDATION PLANTINGS REQUIRED BY SECTION 537E SOUTH COMMENTS ON THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE REVIEWED AT THE MAY 21, 2025 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING RESUBMITTED INCLUDED IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS WAS RECEIVED ON MAY 28, 2025. 
          THIS IS JUST A GRAPHIC SHOWING EXHIBIT EIGHT WAS INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS INCLUDED AS AN ATTACHMENT. THE PACKET ITS 100 FOOT BUFFER IS CALLED OUT AS ITS 100 FOOT BUFFER OFF THE REAR LINE AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES. SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE SPEAKING TONIGHT HAVE SPOKE TONIGHT. THIS 100 FOOT BUFFER IS CALLED OUT AS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING SETBACK BUFFER MEANING THAT THE PARKING THAT THEY'RE SHOWING AND THE STORMWATER THAT THEY'RE SHOWING WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THIS 100 FOOT BUFFER IS BUT BUT THE BUILDING THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF COULD COULD NOT ENCROACH ON THAT 100 FOOT BUILDING SETBACKS AREAS THE SITE PLAN WOULD GET A CLOSER LOOK TO IT THIS IS ENTERING OF BURN CHURCH ROAD THE DRIVE THROUGH WOULD BE HERE THE DUMPSTER IS LOCATED HERE AT END OF THE DRIVE THRU SO THEY WOULD BE COMING IN HERE CIRCLING OUT PARKING IS PROVIDED HERE STORMWATER PRELIMINARY LOCATION IS HERE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A STORMWATER PERMIT. 
          THIS IS THE EXISTING PROPERTY LINE IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR AND WHAT THEY WOULD BE PROPOSING IS A LINE REVISION TO WHERE THIS WOULD BE THE NEW LOT LINE TAKE IT OUT OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER IN ESSENCE THIS AREA HERE WOULD BE ADDED TO THIS PARCEL IT ALLOWS FOR THE DRIVE TO COME IN AND THE PARKING AND THE BUILDING HANDICAPPED PARKING IS HERE WITH SIDEWALK ACCESS TO THE SAME CRITERIA SECTION THREE TWO AND THREE OF SECTION 310 THREE A THE FINDING IS A PROPOSED PRELIMINARY TYPE PLAN DOES NOT CONFORM WITH THE UDOT TABLE 583B AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED REQUIRING THE TEN FOOT BUILDING SET BACK FROM THE 50 FOOT BUFFER LINE. I'LL GO BACK REAL QUICK AND ILLUSTRATE THAT RIGHT NOW. HERE'S 50 FOOT SETBACK. THE BUILDING IS ESSENTIALLY 
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LIKE A000 BUILDING SETBACK. IT'S NOT COMING OFF WITH THIS BUFFER. 
          IT NEEDS TO COME OFF TEN FEET. I THINK THE SITE PLAN AS IS SHOWN NOW CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. 
          THEY COULD LITERALLY MOVE EVERYTHING BACK TEN FEET. THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN DOES NOT CONFORM WITH SECTION 537E REQUIRING A FOUNDATION PLAN FOR AN AREA AT LEAST EIGHT FEET WIDE MAINTAINED AROUND ALL STRUCTURES. AND THE SECOND CRITERIA IS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE FORMED WITH ANY APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THE MASTER PLAN SUBDIVISION OR ANY AREA IS ANOTHER AGREEMENT IN DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT IN THAT AGREEMENT REQUIRED A TEN FOOT RESIDENTIAL VEGETATED BUFFER AND BUILDING SETBACK LINE ALONG THE EASTERN NORTH NORTHERN BOUNDARIES. 
          I'LL BACK REAL QUICK. THAT WOULD BE ALONG THE NORTHERN AND THE EASTERN BOUNDARY A TEN FOOT VEGETATED BUFFER SO THAT THAT CAN BE PROVIDED EVEN WITH THE LAYOUT IT'S NOT SHOWING ON THE SIGN THAT SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO I BELIEVE PLANNING PERMISSION AS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION IT SUBMITTED APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TABLE THE APPLICATION OR DENY THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED CONSENT FINDS THAT ALL DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF CRITERIA ONE AND TWO AND THEREFORE TOWN STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED. SHOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHOOSE TO APPROVE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS TOWN STAFF FINDS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS SHOULD BE MET PRIOR TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENT SECTION 310 THREE A NOW WOULD BE ONE PROVIDE A FOUNDATION PLANTING AREA OF AT LEAST EIGHT FEET AROUND ALL STRUCTURES TO PROVIDE A TEN FOOT FRONT SETBACK FROM THE 50 FOOT BUFFER LINE AND THREE PROVIDE A TEN FOOT RESIDENTIAL VEGETATED BUFFER AND BUILDING SETBACK LINE ALONG THE EASTERN AND NORTHERN BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY. AND I HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION AND I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK IT IS ONE OF AND HE JACK CASHIN I LIVE 121 BUENA VISTA COURT AND I LOVE MORATA PAWLENTY WELL I LOVE 630 THIS MORNING I DROVE STRAIGHT UP TO MAKE THE MEETING 6 P.M. JUST GOING TO INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THE NEIGHBORS I DO CARE IT IS MY PROPERTY I AM ON TOP OF IT. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M A HOMEOWNER AS. WELL I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S NEED. I WILL DO WHATEVER NECESSARY TO BE DONE TO MAKE SURE IT FITS EVERYBODY'S NEEDS ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORS. SO I'M HERE PERSONALLY AND I DROVE NINE AND A HALF HOURS STRAIGHT I COULDN'T TAKE A FLIGHT TO GET HERE FROM THAT'S WHY THANK YOU, SIR. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS LATER TO IS IN PROGRESS DANA I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE THE 50 FOOT HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ABOUT BUFFER AND OR THAT ORIGINATED THIS PARCEL IS ACTUALLY A DESIGNATED ONE WHEN IT GOT BROUGHT IN AND IT GOT DESIGNATED AS A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR BUFFER OVERLAY AND THEN ALSO I THINK YOU DEAL WITH SECTIONS SPECIFIC TO ADJACENT STREET BUFFERS THIS IS REQUIRED THIS ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER STREETS WITHIN TOWN REQUIRES A 50 FOOT BUFFER BASED ON THAT YOU DO IT PUT IT SPECIFICALLY IT CALLS OUT THE BURNT CHURCH STREET OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT SHALL PROVIDE A 50 FOOT BUFFER AND THAT BUFFER IS THE HEART OF THE ROAD BECAUSE OF BERT CHURCH ROAD AND IS THAT THE HIERARCHY OF THE ROAD THE REASON WHY THAT IS 50 FEET I DON'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND ON WELL THERE'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER JUST BASED ON IT BEING IN THE HIGHWAY OVERLAY BUT BUT I THE INTENT OF IT WAS WAS TO DO PROVIDED IN THE SAME WAY THAT A BUFFER IS PROVIDED ALONG THE OTHER HIGHWAY CORRIDORS IS IS TO PROVIDE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE STREET THE ROAD ITSELF, THE BUILDINGS. 
          SECOND QUESTION IS IT POSSIBLE TO NOT REQUIRE THAT EXTRA TEN FEET WHICH WOULD PUSH THAT BUILDING FURTHER BACK INTO THE PROPERTY? IT'S IN THE AREA. 
          I MEAN IT'S CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY AS A FOOTNOTE TO THE TABLE SAYING IN THE STATES 
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THE FACT THAT THE BUILDING SET BACK IS ADDITION TO ANY REQUIRED BUFFER. 
          SO IT'S IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT IT WOULD TO COME OFF AN ADDITIONAL TEN FEET AND I REALIZE AND I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT THAT'S TEN FEET CLOSER TO THE RESIDENTS FOR BEING THE ONLY WAY TO GO AROUND THAT IS WOULD BE A AN APPEAL EXPERIENCE IT IS KNOW OR YOU COULD REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING I MEAN IN TERMS OF I SAID YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S WHAT QUESTIONS ARE LIKE DAN ARE THEY MEETING THE EXACT PARKING COUNT? YES. OKAY. AND IS IT I'M SORRY IF IT'S IN HERE AND I JUST DON'T SEE IT ON THE FLOOR. I THINK IT'S 18 REQUIRED AND 18 PROVIDED AND THE PARKING AND THE DRY MILES AND EVERYTHING IS AT ALL IMPERVIOUS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CALLED OUT WHETHER IT WAS IS WHETHER IT'S A GRAVEL DRIVE OR A PAVED DRIVEWAY AND PARKING AND IT'S WHAT WE CALL TRUE GRIT. IT'S A VERY POOR PARKING LOT IF IT'S SOMEBODY YOU DON'T WANT TO USE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AS WELL. MY NAME'S TONY MOORE, SOME ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PRODUCT ACTUALLY WILL TAKE THE FIRST 3.1 INCHES OF RAIN OFF SURFACE IN THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS IN THE SANDY SOIL SO ANY WATER THAT HITS THAT SURFACE WILL GO DIRECTLY INTO THE GROUND TYPE SOILS RIGHT I'LL JUST CONFIRM YOU HAVE TYPE A SOILS AND CONFIRMED YES YOU DO YEAH HE SAID A LOT HARDER AND HARDER TO DETERMINE SOILS WATER AND OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE A FULL SOURCE REPORT FOR WATCHING DETERMINE HOW DEEP IS THAT ONE. HOW MUCH WATER? YEAH THAN FOUR. 
          THEY HAVE A 20 FOOT SETBACK SHOWN ON REAR IN THE PLAN. IS THAT APPLICABLE AND I THINK THAT WAS TAKEN IN FROM THE STUDIO BUT IT'S NOT APPLICABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THAT PROVIDES THE BUILDING BACK. OKAY. 
          AND THE STORMWATER POND IN THE PARKING ALL OF THAT IS PERMITTED TO GO BEYOND SETBACKS IS PERMITTED TO BE WHERE IT'S LOCATED NOW AND IT'S IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. 
          I THINK YOU ALREADY HAVE HAD SOME CORRESPONDENCE OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT HERE AND IF IT DIDN'T GIVE I THINK IT MAY BE JUST A LITTLE WORK ON THE WATER GOES IN IT GOES BACK IN THE GROUND. THAT'S IT FOR YOU THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON THE DRIVE THROUGH DOES THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OR IS IT COMING OUT OF THOSE TEN FEET OH, TEN FEET IN WIDTH? I DON'T THINK A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          I DON'T THINK WE CALL OUT A SPECIFIC WIDTH FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH AND THAT'S PROBABLY A TYPICAL DRIVE THROUGH WIDTH. UM, IT'S LOCATED AND IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE DRIVER'S SIDE WOULD BE UP AGAINST WINDOW AND SO SO RATHER THAN COMING THROUGH IN THE OTHER DIRECTION WHETHER IT THE PASSENGER UP AGAINST THE BUILDING I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE SEEMS A LITTLE TIGHT IN THAT AREA THAT SO YEAH GOING IN THE LANE WE CAN'T TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED I APOLOGIZE LET'S START WITH YEAH I WANT TO GO BACK TO A FEW THINGS THE THE DRIVE THROUGH WHAT'S THE HOW CARS CAN YOU CUE IN THAT DRIVE THROUGH I TRIED TO SCALE IT IT LOOKED LIKE IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S IT'S PROBABLY FIVE DEPENDING ON WHERE THE WINDOWS ARE LOCATED BEFORE IF THE SIX CAR WERE TO BE QUEUED UP THERE IT WAS IT WOULD BE ABLE TO AND I ASKED THIS BEFORE BUT WAS THERE A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT? THERE WAS NOT THAT'S REQUIRED RIGHT FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TOWN. WE WE WE WE DETERMINED THAT WITH WITH THE SIZE OF THIS PROJECT THAT THAT WE GOING TO ASK FOR A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT BUT BUT IT IS THERE'S A VIDEO REQUIREMENT IT SAYS ALL DEVELOPMENT SHOULD PROVIDE A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. AND YES, 15 PARKING SPACES DOES THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT THE DRIVE THRU IS THERE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PARK CORRECT. 
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YOU'VE GOT 15 SPACES AND IN ADDITION TO THAT YOU HAVE HOW HOW HOW MANY TRIPS ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE WITH PEOPLE VISITING TO GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THRU? SO I THINK THAT AT MINIMUM THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD PROVIDE A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT RIGHT AND WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE IT IT RUNS THE NUMBERS ON AND TRIPS GENERATED AND GIVE GIVE RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF IT AND WE REVIEW IT AND WE WE MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHETHER WOULD NEED A FULL BLOWN TRAFFIC ANALYSIS FROM I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT TYPE OF OFF TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS COULD COULD HAPPEN WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT BUT BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY CONDITION THAT THE PDP WITH THAT OKAY LET'S SEE AHEAD YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED THE FOUNDATION PLANNING'S ALSO LOOKING AT THIS IF I WERE TO REVIEW THIS I WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERN ON I DID SEE AN EXHIBIT THE AREA BETWEEN THE DRIVE THRU AND THE PARKING WAS ACTUALLY SHOWN AS FULLY LANDSCAPED BUT. THEN YOU HAVE A SMALL SIDEWALK THAT TAKES YOU ACROSS TO DRIVE THE DRIVE THROUGH BUT YOU HAVE NO WAY TO ACCESS THAT SIDEWALK BECAUSE YOU'RE BLOCKED BY PARKED CARS SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SIDEWALK ADDED TO TO TAKE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKING ACCESS THE SIDEWALK SO THAT THEY CAN THEN ACCESS THE SIDEWALK TO CROSS THE DRIVE THROUGH SAFELY YEAH JUST TO CLARIFICATION WHERE WE WERE REFERRING TO AND I BELIEVE REFERRING TO IF YOU WERE TO IF YOU WERE TO IN THESE PARKING SPACES HERE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT TO A SIDEWALK TAKES YOU TO THE SIDEWALK TO THE FRONT DOOR. RIGHT. YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO WALK IN THE DRIVING LANE TO GET TO OKAY. AND AND REMEDY THAT WOULD BE PROVIDING A SIDEWALK THAT RUNS ACROSS THE FRONT OF THESE PARKING. 
          YEAH. AND THEN LASTLY A TELL ME IF I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A CONDITIONAL MOTION IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLY SEVERAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL . I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU NOT WE NOT MAKE A CONDITIONAL MOTION THAT TAKES THIS CONDITIONS TO BE APPROVED AT THE TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN I WOULD MAKE A CONDITION THAT THESE A MOTION THAT THESE CONDITIONS BE PROVIDED FOR REVIEW OF STAFF PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAN IF WE CONDITION NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR A COFA NEXT WEEK ON WITHOUT SEEING THE SITE PLAN WITH ALL THE NEW CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE CONDITIONING IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WELL TO I ALWAYS REVIEW THE STORMWATER SUBMITTAL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT MATCHES WHATEVER WAS APPROVED AT THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANS BUT THAT'S RIGHT THEY DO HAVE A COFA ASSOCIATED WITH THIS FROM I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE MAKING AN WITH SEVERAL CONDITIONS IF STAFF GOING TO LOOK AT THAT SUBMITTAL AND MAKE SURE THAT WAS ALL RESUBMITTED AS A CONDITION BY US BEFORE YOU BEFORE YOU APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAN WHERE YOU'RE GOING IF I MAY KEVIN I HEARD DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT FOR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THERE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR YOU IF YOU WANT WHAT WE CAN DO MAKE THAT CONDITIONAL APPROVAL GIVE THEM THE LETTER HAVE THEM RESUBMIT THEIR WE WILL CONFIRM THAT THEY'VE MET THOSE ITEMS BEFORE WE IT MOVE FORWARD TO STORMWATER RIGHT YES WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT GO IN AND DELIVER. 
          NO IT'S PROBABLY NOT POSSIBLE BUT HAVE THE APPLICANT DONE ANYTHING TO SEE IF THEY COULD THE STORMWATER POND SO IT'S NOT ABUTTING RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT BACK SETBACK IN THIS AREA EVERY YEAR OR IS IT WAS ASKING ABOUT THE LOCATION AND THAT I WOULD ASSUME OF THE PROPOSED LOCATION . YES SO CLOSE LOCATION FOR IT. YEAH THAT'S IN GENERAL THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY PLACE TO BE PUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. IT HAS TO BE CONFIGURED THAT 
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WAY. YOU KNOW UNTIL I GET A SOURCE REPORT I CAN'T DETERMINE HOW THIS SIZE IS GOING TO BE I WILL ASSUME GOING TO BE SMALL FROM WHAT I'M SHOWN IN MY DESIGN ON THE HOME APPLIANCE CALCULATOR. SO IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT SMALL IN THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY DEALING WITH ON THE WATER FOR THE HOME FOR THE BUILDING THIS RESTAURANT WATER WILL BE GOING INTO THE SOLAR SYSTEM AND YOU JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU'RE PROPOSING AN INFILTRATION, NOT A STORMWATER POINT. LOTS OF INFILTRATION. YES, SIR. 
          NOW WE'LL HIT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SO ALWAYS ANSWER. 
          I KIND OF THINK THE BEST WAY TO TO HIT THIS WE HIT THE SIDEWALK FROM PARKING. 
          WE HAD A TIGHT TURN INTO A DRIVE THROUGH COMING BACK TO THE MAP ALL THE MAP UP FOR A SECOND WAS FOR WE GOT A TIGHT TURN TO DRIVE THROUGH WHERE IF WE HAVE MORE THAN CARS IT'S GOING TO STACK BACK TO BURN CHURCH ROAD THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND ABOUT THAT. 
          WE'VE GOT BUFFER ISSUES. WE HAVE NO SOLID GROUND OR ANYTHING ON IMPACT THIS OH A PAUSE FOR A SECOND ON THAT ITEM ALONE I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING THIS FORWARD WITHOUT US SEEING WHAT THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT IS GOING TO BE. FOR ME IT WOULD BE A TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A ONE PAGER WHERE. 
          THEY LOOK UP THE THE TRIPS GENERATED BY THE PROJECT AND AS TO THE TO INFORM STAFF ON THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE ADJACENT ROADS UNDERSTOOD AND THEN IF IF IT COULD LEAD TO I WAS ASKING FOR A FULL BLOWN TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WELL AND KNOWING THAT ROAD AND KNOWING WHAT THIS DRAWING LOOKS THAT I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN IS WHERE IT WOULD END UP HAVING GO. I THINK WE'RE AGAIN LOOKING AT A PROJECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIT TOO MUCH ONTO A PROPERTY THIS IS 4400 SQUARE FEET A DRIVE. 
          IT'S LIKE EVERY SQUARE INCH THAT COULD PUT ON THERE HAS BEEN PUT ON THERE. 
          IT'S A ONE STORY, NOT A TWO STORY. MAYBE IT'S A SMALLER FOOTPRINT AS A TWO STORY DRIVE SCRIPT. I YOU KNOW, I DON'T I HAVE ANYTHING LEGALLY TO STAND ON ON THIS BUT A DRIVE THRU IN THAT LOCATION THE OUT OF ME IT SCARES THE OUT OF ME THEN YOU TAKE THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED IT'S DESIGNED THINK OF SOME OF THESE DAYCARES THAT WE'VE APPROVED WHERE THEY'VE TOLD US IT WON'T BACK UP OUT ON THE ROAD AND WE'RE DEALING WITH ISSUES LIKE A HEALTH NIGHT CHRISTIAN ACADEMY THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BACK UP ON THE ROAD BACKING UP ON THE ROAD THINK OF THESE OTHER ONES AND I JUST GOT IT'S GOING TO BACK UP ON A BYRD CHURCH ROAD AND WE'RE TO HAVE ISSUES AND THIS IS AN AREA OF THE TOWN WHERE WE'RE ADJACENT THE COUNTY WE'VE GOT TO WORK WITH, THE COUNTY WE'VE GOT TO WORK. 
          IS THAT A D.O.T. ROAD OR IS THAT A DEAL? WELL, EITHER WAY WE HAVE TO REALTY ROAD IT WAS A COUNTY PROJECT WHO WIDENED IT AND IT WAS TO AVOID I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY, HANG ON. HANG ON. I'LL LET YOU SPEAK IN SECOND. 
          OKAY. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HERE THAT PERSONALLY AND I'M ONE OF SEVEN I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME BUT PERSONALLY NOT COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITHOUT SEEING IT REDESIGNED. NOT THAT I DON'T TRUST STAFF JUST THERE'S SO MUCH GOING HERE . IT REMINDS ME OF THOSE OF YOU THOSE OF YOU COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE HERE WITH BIG BLUE MARBLE . 
          WE HAD TO HAVE THEM COME BACK BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH GOING ON AND I UNDERSTAND YOU DROVE A LONG WAY TO BE HERE TONIGHT BUT WE ARE CHARGED WITH MAKING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TENANTS AND I PERSONALLY ALSO HAVE AN ISSUE NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THIS BUT I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH MOVING A LOT LINE WHICH IS A PERCEPTION OF JUST MOVING THINGS TO GET AS MUCH YOU CAN IN THERE. 
          IT'S YOUR PROPERTY YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DEVELOP YOUR PROPERTY BUT THOSE ARE CONCERNS THAT I SHARE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AS WE KIND OF GO TOWARDS WHEREVER WE'RE GOING NOW IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF ISSUES IF YOU THINK IT WOULD HELP US, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY US TO HEAR YOU ON THAT WE AREN'T GOING TO TURN IT INTO A AN ONGOING DISCUSSION 
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BUT YEAH THE MAJOR ISSUE THE DRIVE THRU AND I, I CAN RELATE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUE WE CAN ELIMINATE THE DRIVE THRU WE CAN TAKE THAT OUT COMPLETELY OUT OF MIND AS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY BUT AGAIN WHAT'S GOING ON HERE THEY CAN FIGURE OUT THE FORMULA I'M FINE WITH THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DRIVE THRU ABSOLUTELY NOT MY OBJECTIVE TO BE HERE IS TO MAKE THINGS WORK THAT IT'S WORKING FOR EVERYONE. THERE'S NO HICCUPS FOR ANYONE SO IF THE DRIVE THROUGH IT'S IT'S AN ISSUE WE CAN TAKE IT OUT SO THE DRIVE THRU ABSOLUTELY THANK YOU SIR YOU BET IT'S IT'S UP TO COMMISSION AS A WHOLE NOW. DO WE WANT TO TRY AND WORK THROUGH THIS ISSUES AND CONDITIONS AND FOLLOW WHAT CHAIRMAN HOWARD WAS SAYING ABOUT HAVING A STAFF CONDITION TO DO IT BEFORE IT COMES BACK. IT'S STILL THERE AND IT'S APPROVED AS PRELIMINARY AND COMES BACK YOUR SHARED OR DO WE WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN BUILD THIS FOR A MONTH AND BRING IT BACK FOR US TO SEE HERE AND YOU KNOW IT'S NOT ONE PERSON'S DECISION. IT'S TRYING TO GET THE FEEL FOR HOW THIS COMMISSION AND WHAT GOOD QUESTION IT WAS A CONCERN OF ONE OF THE SPEAKERS THEN IS THIS THERE'S NO SIDEWALK THE STREET AND I KNOW THERE'S NO SIDEWALK DOWN BERT CHURCH IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN REQUIRE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS KNOWING THAT IN THE FUTURE CAN I KNOW THERE WAS I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS TO THE COUNTY HAD A PLAN THAT ONCE THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX GOT SHOT DOWN THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT I THINK THEY'VE PULLED IT PUT IT ON HOLD BUT IT WAS A PEDESTRIAN PATH THINK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD ONE I DON'T THINK IT WAS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CONDITION THIS WITH THE SIDEWALK ALL ACROSS THE FRONT OF IT THAT'S NOT TYING IN THERE ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS LOCATION. OKAY THANK YOU. YES, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU CAN CAN YOU REVIEW THE OPTIONS AGAIN? OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE APPROVED CONDITIONS DENY OR TABLE BEEN ABLE TO APPRECIATE IT BY THE AIRPORT I ON OR WITHDRAWN RIGHT WHICH HAVE TO START THE PROCESS ALL RIGHT MR. WETMORE I WAS WITH THE IDEA OF POSSIBLY TAKING OUT THE DRIVE THRU I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. 
          I'D BE MORE INCLINED TO TABLE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAY I THE APPLICANT INTERESTED IN TABLING THIS BECAUSE IT HAS TO COME FROM YOU AND GET THE CHANGES YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION. SO LET ME GET FEEL FOR THE TEMPERATURE COMMISSIONERS IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW KIND OF JUST A QUICK INFORMAL POLL ARE YOU MORE COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD AND PUTTING CONDITIONS ON IT? MY STAFF TAKE IT FROM HERE OR ARE YOU MORE COMFORTABLE AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE A CLEAR DIRECTION. 
          WE GO THIS ROUTE OF SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS IN ASKING THE APPLICANT TO MOVE THEIR ORDERS AND OF COURSE YOU'RE I'M LEFT HANDED. I ALWAYS LOOK WHAT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS HERE THAT COULD BE WORKED THROUGH WITH ADDITIONAL PLANNING. 
          SO PLANNING I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH TOO MUCH IF WE TRY TO PUT CONDITIONS ON THIS AND IMPROVE. I TRUST STAFF BUT I THINK THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF THAT CAN BE DONE HERE THAT CAN MAKE THIS WORK WITH THE SIZE THE BUILDING SO I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT IN TRYING TO MAKE IT WITH CONDITIONS RIGHT NOW. I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND IF THE APPLICANT SAYS THEY'VE STATED THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND ARE AMENABLE TO KIND OF WORKING THROUGH THINGS THAT MIGHT BE A CHANCE ALSO FOR YOU TO MEET WITH SOME OF YOUR NEIGHBORS AND STAKEHOLDERS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED NOT THAT WE CAN REQUIRE YOU TO DO BUT JUST WHETHER A FENCE OR OTHER LANDSCAPING OR CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY WITH PROJECT I AGREE BUT ECHOES THE SAME COMMENT IS I AGREE I WOULD ASK KEVIN CAN YOU JUST REMIND US OF THE ACTUAL PROCESS NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE SO OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT IS THE 
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ONE THAT WOULD HAVE TO STATE THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO TABLE THIS. 
          HOWEVER I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING BECAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW IF YOU JUST MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THAT DOESN'T GIVE STAFF A CHARGE AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON WITH THE APPLICANT. RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I SAID GOING TO HAVE TO BE CLEAR AND SPECIFIC IF WE GO DOWN THIS ROUTE, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR TO THE APPLICANT NOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO IF WE'RE FORCED MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT AND WE ALSO HAVE OFFERED IN THE PAST TO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMISSION MEMBERS MEET WITH THE APPLICANT PRIOR TO COMING BACK TO US TO TRY AND HELP GIVE DIRECTION. I WILL OPEN THAT UP. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS MIGHT BE WILLING DO THAT. WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AFTERWARDS BUT LET ME ASK THE APPLICANT ARE YOU WILLING TO TABLE IT WITH SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS FROM US ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE UPDATED OR CHANGED? YES. 
          OKAY. SO THEN REMIND ME KEVIN THE APPLICANT JUST TABLES IT WE DON'T VOTE ON TABLING CORRECT. THEY REQUEST TO TABLE IT THEN YOU'LL MAKE MOTION. 
          OKAY SO HE'S ACROSS THE TABLE AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION TABLE THIS SO IT'S LIKE OKAY MOVED IN SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MY OKAY NOW LET'S LET'S TAKE FIVE OR 10 MINUTES HERE LET'S DISCUSS THE THINGS THAT ARE CONCERNING US I KNOW NUMBER ONE I HEARD FROM LYDIA'S SUGGESTION MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS THIS IS A SUGGESTION NOT A REQUIREMENT AND DESPITE IT IT HAS A LOT MORE WEIGHT EVEN THOUGH AS THEY'VE SAID THEY'RE NOT TECHNICALLY IN THE TOWN. THEY'RE ADJACENT TO THE TOWN. WE ALL WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS SO IT WOULDN'T BE A IDEA TO HAVE A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS TONIGHT BEFORE YOU LEAVE IF NOT FALLING ASLEEP YET, IF I MAY, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO COLLECT SOME OF THE DESIGN. 
          OKAY. I TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS NUMBER ONE OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE DRIVE THRU BEING REMOVED THE APPLICANT HAS KIND OF STATED I WILL WORK ON ADJUSTING THAT THE ACCESS FOR THE PARKING LOT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR PATH DEPEND ON HOW THAT HOW THAT ALIGNS WITH THAT IS ALSO THE CROSSWALK WELL OBVIOUSLY THE DRIVERS NOW SO I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT BUT THEN ACCESS FOR THAT PARKING THE WALKWAYS MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS CONTIGUOUS POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL BUFFERING ON CERTAIN AREAS ALSO THE LOCATION OF THE STORM POND DISCUSSION OF ITS CONCURRENT CONFIGURATION YOU JUST SHOWS US A RECTANGLE RIGHT NOW IT'S ALSO CONCEPTUAL BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF POTENTIAL INCORPORATING THAT OR ADJUSTING THE LOCATION OF THAT STORE BUT ADDITION OF THE BUFFERS TO THE SIDE IN THE BACK IS REQUIRED ALSO THE MEASURED SETBACKS ARE MEASURED FROM BUFFERS SO THERE OBVIOUSLY WILL BE ADJUSTING OBVIOUSLY WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE DRIVE THRU THE BUILDING CAN EASILY MOVE AND PROVIDE THE INPUT BUT WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TIME THE EAST AND THE NORTH BUT ALSO TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS ASSESSMENT TRAFFIC ASSESSMENT AND THERE IS A I CAN'T REMEMBER THE THRESHOLD IS BUT IT'S A MINIMUM NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT WOULD TRIGGER A TIRE 50 TO 50 PEAK HOUR TRIPS. ARE WE MISSING ANYTHING IN DIRECTIONS THROUGHOUT THIS DOCUMENT APPRECIATE YOU PICKING UP THE PIECE ABOUT YOU COULD RECONFIGURE THAT THAT PIECE AND OBVIOUSLY THE TRUCK THROUGH YOU THAT WOULD ANY POTENTIAL TRAFFIC WHICH TAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MAYBE IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS WELL MAKE SURE WE CAN ADD ONE MORE THING. YEAH, WELL THAT'S HAVING A DISCUSSION. THERE'S A THERE'S A COUPLE LIVE OAKS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY FRONT CORNER OF THE BUILDING SIDE OF THE BUILDING BACK PARKING LOT OF SOME CONSIDERATION TO THOSE LIVE OAK TREES IN SITE PLANNING. YEAH WE LOVE OUR LIVE OAKS NOW PLEASE JUST. SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT US SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO RUBBER STAMP AND APPROVE IT WHEN IT COMES BACK BEFORE US. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. THERE MAY BE SOME MORE MASSAGING WHEN IT COMES BACK BEFORE US TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S HERE. DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. 
          I JUST HAD SOME DEVELOPMENT GO ON HERE MY HOUSE THAT I WASN'T THRILLED WITH BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY'S IT WAS TOLD ME WAS SOMETIMES THE BEST SOLUTION IS SOMETHING WHERE NOBODY'S HAPPY BUT EVERYBODY'S SATISFIED AND. 
          SO I'LL SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING WE CANNOT HOLD THE DEVELOPER UP JUST BECAUSE 
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PEOPLE ARE STOMPING THEIR FEET BUT. YOU'VE GOT A DEVELOPER HERE WHO SEEMS WILLING TO TO HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS AND MAKE THE CHANGES AND BE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPERS. HOPEFULLY THAT ENDS UP BEING TRUE BUT THANK YOU. 
          [VII.4. Chase Bank - Belfair Village (Certificate of Appropriateness - Highway Corridor Overlay District): A request by Dynamic Engineering Consultants, PC on behalf of owner Jane Cooper, LLC for review of a Certificate of Appropriateness - Highway Corridor Overlay District. The project consists of the renovation of the existing restaurant to a bank with drive through, and associated parking, landscaping, and infrastructure. The property consists of 0.77 acres identified by tax map number R610 031 000 1085 0000 within the Belfair Planned Unit Development located at 15 Towne Drive. (COFA-03-25-019625) (Staff-Sam Barrow)]
THANK AND TIME TO MOVE ON. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. CHASE BANK FILTER VILLAGE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT A REQUEST BY DYNAMIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS P.C. ON BEHALF OF OWNER JANE COOPER LLC FOR REVIEW A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS CODE THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING RESTAURANT TO A BANK WITH DRIVE THRU AND ASSOCIATED PARKING, LANDSCAPING AND INFRASTRUCTURE THE PROPERTY CONSISTS OF .77 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MEMBER AND THIS AGENDA WITHIN THE BILL FAIR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 15 TOWN DRIVE MR. SAM AND AS LEAVING IF YOU WOULD JUST TRY AND KEEP QUIET AND WE'LL SHUT THAT DOOR THEN YOU CAN TALK FREELY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING. OH, THIS IS SAM'S FIRST PRESENTATION. I'M SAM BEAR ON THE NEW SENIOR PLANNER FOR THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. SO LITTLE LESS PRESSURE NOW. 
          THANKS FOR THAT. UM, SO THIS EVENING I'LL BE PRESENTING THE APPLICATION A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR THE HIGHWAY OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR CHASE BANK. 
          THIS APPLIES ONLY TO LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, ARCHITECTURE AS YOU WILL KNOW WE'RE HERE. 
          SO THE APPLICANT DYNAMIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS AND PROPERTY OWNER JANE COOPER LLC REQUEST THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION A SEPARATE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HIGHWAY QUARTER OVERLAY DISTRICT TO ALLOW RENOVATION OF AN EXISTING RESTAURANT A BANK WITH A DRIVE THRU ASSOCIATED PARKING, LANDSCAPING AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED BY ALPHA PD AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 0.77 ACRES IDENTIFIED AS OR 6100310001085000. 
          THIS IS THE LOCATION IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CURRENT SHELTER THIS LOCATION IS LOCATED AT 15 TOWN DRIVE IN THE VICINITY OF THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 78 OR 40 ON THE ROAD AND STEVENS HILL ROAD BETWEEN SORT OF DENTAL AND THE IHOP RESTAURANT BY NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT LOCATION. A SUMMARY OF MAJOR CHANGES HERE . 
          AGAIN IF YOU THIS MOUSE IS WORKING TO THE RIGHT IS IHOP TO THE LEFT IS SOUTHERN DENTAL. 
          TO THE NORTH IS TOWN DRIVE AND TO THE SOUTH IS 49 ROAD OR TO 78. 
          PROPOSED MAJOR CHANGES ARE THE DENTAL OR THE DUMPSTER AND CLOSURE HERE IN THE BACK REMOVING A REAR STORAGE ROOM, REMOVING THE ROOF MOUNTED MECHANICALS INSTALLING GROUND MOUNTED MECHANICALS WITH SCREENING, CONVERTING A DRIVE THRU WINDOW TO A DRIVE UP ATRIUM, REMOVING A ROOF COVERING AND REPLACING OUTDOOR SEATING AREA WITH LANDSCAPING. 
          SO THE FRONT ELEVATION THE ONE THAT'S FACING TO 78 OF RAILING ROAD. 
          PROPOSED CHANGES ARE TO REMOVE THE COVER SEATING AREA WHICH IS HERE IN THE ORANGE REPLACE WITH A LANDSCAPING BUFFER. SECOND IS TO REMOVE TO REPLACE WITH A WINDOW SO CURRENTLY THERE IS A DOOR LOCATED HERE YOU CAN'T SEE IN THE PHOTO BUT IS LOCATED HERE ON THE ON THE FACADE TAKE THAT DOOR OUT AND REPLACE IT WITH A WINDOW THAT MATCHES THE OTHER ONES. 
          AND FINALLY ALTER THE PARAPET SHEET. CURRENTLY IT'S MORE OF A ROUNDED SHAPE AND THEY WANT TO SQUARED OFF AND REMOVE THE SIGN. 
          OBVIOUSLY NEXT FOR THE REAR THIS FACES TOWN DRIVE. PROPOSED CHANGES ARE TO REMOVE TO REMOVE THE ADDITION SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTO THAT'S THIS YEAR THIS WHOLE LOWER BUILDING I REMOVE THESE ROOFTOP MECHANICALS HERE AND GROUND MECHANICALS GROUND LEVEL MECHANICALS AND SCREENING WHERE THE WHERE LOWER BUILDING WAS ADD THE SAFETY RAILINGS HERE ALONG THE TOP REMOVE THIS DOOR IF YOU CAN SEE IT HERE IN THE PHOTO THIS DOOR AND REPLACE IT WITH A WINDOW REMOVE WINDOW IS BESIDE THE DOOR AND SHORTEN THESE ALONG THE SIDE TO BE FLUSH WITH THE ROOF. SO IF YOU LOOK HERE WE ARE SHORTENING THESE THIS ONE AND THIS ONE ACTUALLY ALONG THE OTHER ELEVATION AND COMPLETELY GETTING OF THIS ONE HERE. 
          ALL RIGHT TO THE RIGHT THIS ELEVATION THE I HAVE RESTAURANT SO ALONG THIS SIDE WE ARE IMPROVING IT GIVES US BEAUTY HERE ALONG THE FRONT SIDEWALK ALTERING THE PARAPET SHEET TO THE FRONT. SO AGAIN THIS IS ROUNDED CURRENTLY WITH THE SHELTER DESIGN WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THIS LINE AND SQUARED OFF AND FINALLY TO REMOVE THE EXISTING 
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LIGHTING HERE ALONG THE TOP AND REPLACE THESE SCONCES WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE AKIN TO A BANK ALONG THE LEFT SIDE WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE CURRENT DRIVE THRU WINDOW AND REPLACE IT WITH A DRIVE UP ATRIUM FROM CHASE AND TO REMOVE THE EXISTING LIGHTING AGAIN LIKE WE DID THE OTHER SIDE AND REPLACE THESE SCONCES IN HERE. THIS IS THE CURRENT PALETTE. 
          THE BUILDING ITSELF AT THE MOMENT IS A DARKER COLOR. THE UDOT ACTUALLY PREFERS A LOW COUNTRY PALETTE WHICH IS LIGHTER COLORS BUT THIS IS THE CURRENT IS CURRENTLY GRAY WITH A LOT OF DARKER COLORS OF NOTE BLACK IS ALREADY USED ON THE ROOF THE FRONT ROOF IS THIS STANDING SEAM BLACK COLOR HERE ARE BLACKISH GRAY. THE BLACK IS PROPOSED TO BE USED ALONG THE ROOF AS WELL AS THE PARAPET WALL COPING MECHANICAL IN TERMS OF SCREENING IN THE CANOPIES PER THE USE OF BLACK SHOULD BE USED BUT IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT SPIRULINA EXACTLY IS. ALSO OF NOTE IS THE BRIGHT BLUE COLOR AROUND THE ITEM. 
          THIS IS ALSO NOT AN EXCLUSIVELY EXPLICITLY APPROVED COLOR WITHIN THE UDL OR THE IDEA SO STAFF HAS NO ISSUES CONCERN WITH THE LIGHTING PLAN AS SUBMITTED THE PROPOSED LIGHT FIXTURES ARE DESIGNATED OR EXCUSE ME DESIGNED TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF AMBIENT LIGHT PERCEPTIBLE FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES OF NOTE THE PHOTOMETRIC MEETING OR READINGS AT THE ATRIUM ARE 13.2 FOR CANDLES FOR SECURITY SAME THING ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THE MAIN ENTRANCE 12.4 FOOT CANDLES ZERO FOR CANDLE 0.0 FOR CANDLES ALONG 40 GARLAND ROAD AND 0.0 FOR CANDLES ALONG THE TOWN DRIVE AS WELL AND NEGLIGIBLE READINGS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE MEANING 0.01 OR LESS LANDSCAPING STAFF HAS NO ISSUES OF CONCERN WITH LANDSCAPING AS SUBMITTED THERE NO IMPACT TO THE EXISTING BUFFER ALONG FORDING ISLAND ROAD THE TREES ON SITE ARE BEING PRESERVE AND PROTECTED EXISTING AND GROUND COVER OUGHT TO BE PRESERVED AND PROTECTED WHERE POSSIBLE AND THEY ARE ALSO ADDING ADDITIONAL FOUNDATION PLANTINGS LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE HERE ALONG THE FRONT AND ALONG THE SIDES AND ALSO IN THESE PARKING ISLANDS. 
          THIS APPLICATION COMPLIES WITH REVIEW CRITERIA LISTED HERE IF THE CONDITIONS ARE MET IN LETTER A THE ONLY STAFF RECOMMENDATION WE HAVE IS TO PROVIDE A FREE OPTION TO PROVIDE A LETTER OF APPROVAL FROM THE MASTER PLAN DECLARATION RESPONSIBLE FOR COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY THIS EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION MUST DETERMINE IF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE AND OR THE SDA. 
          SO AGAIN THE ONLY TWO THINGS BEING THE COLOR BLACK IN THE AMOUNT USED AS WELL AS THE CLEAR BRIGHT BLUE FOR THE SORRY FOR THE TYPO IN THE SLIDES IN THE AGAIN YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTIONS THIS EVENING APPROVE APPLICATION APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY A SUBMITTED MOTION AND OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS HEREBY REPRESENTED BY MR. JASON FROM BTG ARCHITECTS DID THE APPLICANT WISH TO SEE CLEARLY APPROVAL WILL WILL START ON YOUR END. YEAH I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE THE ONLY CONCERNS I SEE FROM STAFF IS COLOR PALETTES AND. I JUST PULLED UP HERE THAT THE SECTION OF THE YUDO REFERENCED AND IT DOES SAY THAT ACCENT COLOR DESIGN FOR EXAMPLE BLACK DARK BLUE GRAYS AND OTHER DARK PRIMARY COLORS MAY BE USED ON A LIMITED BASIS AS PART OF AN ARCHITECTURAL MOTIF AT THE DISCRIMINATION OF THE OTHER ADMINISTRATORS. 
          SO I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO ME. I DON'T SEE WHERE WE EVEN HAVE GROUNDS DENY IT SO PLEASE MAKE THEM RETHINK THE ROOF. ADDITIONALLY I DON'T HAVE ANY REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE BLUE THE ATM MACHINE. IT'S IN A WEIRD SPOT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR PEOPLE TO FIND IT ON QUALITY I SEE LOTS OF ATM MACHINES AROUND THAT YOU KNOW BRIGHT COLORS TO CALL THEIR ATTENTION SO I'M NOT I'M NOT STRESSED TOO MUCH WITH THAT QUESTION THAT MAYBE IT ALSO HAD THE QUESTION ON THE LADDER THAT ON THE BACK THE BUILDING IS THAT NECESSARY TO GET ACCESS THE ROOF AND SECONDLY TO THAT THE IS ALL THAT NECESSARY IF 
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THE EQUIPMENT IS BEING MOVED ARE YOU REALLY YOU KNOW YEAH. NO I'M NOT SURE WHY WHY THAT'S SO I NEED YOU UP TO THE MICROPHONE I'M SORRY PEOPLE ACTUALLY DO WATCH THIS. 
          JASON, YOU'RE A BIG I'M NOT SURE WHY THE IF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IS BEING MOVED TO THE GROUND WHILE WE STILL HAVE ACCESS THERE OTHER THAN IT IS WHAT IS EXISTING THE LOCATION SO IF THERE IS NO ACCESS IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF REMOVING THE LADDER AND THE RAILING AND CHANGING THAT ELEMENT UP THERE ? LET ME REVIEW THE DRAWINGS. 
          THEY MAY NOT BE MOVING ALL THE ROOFTOP UNITS. YEAH. 
          SO LET ME DO A QUICK REVIEW OF THE DRAWINGS AND SEE IF THAT'S WHY THERE'S A QUESTION I HAD. THERE'S A NO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REASON I CAN THINK OF A LADDER ON THE BACK OF A BANK. I'M JUST THINKING MAYBE NOT LOOKING OUT OF A TEMPLE, THAT'S ALL. YEAH. YOU KNOW, I DID MAKE THE COMMENT DISCLOSURE FOR YOU I'M IN THE BUSINESS AND I DO QUITE A BIT OF COMMERCIAL THAT I DON'T SEE HOW THE EQUIPMENT'S GOING TO FIT IN THE NEW ENCLOSURE SO THAT MAY BE EITHER ADDITIONAL OR JUST PARTIAL REPLACEMENT. WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO GO UP TO A B, RF SYSTEMS WHEN WE'RE DOING IT FOR RELIEF PURPOSES BUT AS I SAID, LET ME DO A QUICK REVIEW OF THE DRAWINGS AND SEE IF I CAN FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE FIT IN THAT AREA. 
          IT'S A MY ONLY QUESTION IS THE THE EXISTING REALLY IS BLACK YELLOW THE ROOF THE THE RAILING IS YELLOW, THE ROOF IS BLACK THAT WAS THE VERY DECEIVING IMAGES OF THE ROOF IS BLACK BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY A BACKYARD BURGER. OKAY. 
          AND THE EXISTING ALL THE EXISTING WINDOWS AND THINGS ARE THE BLACK BRICKS AS IT EXISTS AND THE EXISTING COPING IS BLACK. I THINK THEY'RE ADDITIONAL BLACK OPENING BUT THE EXISTING PRESUMABLY MATCHES THE ROOF AS IT IS THEY'RE NOT REALLY THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. BLACK IT'S ALREADY THERE. THEY'RE I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE WE DENIED BLACK IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT A PREFERRED OR APPROPRIATE LOWCOUNTRY PALETTE IN THE H CODE BUT BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING CONDITION THEY'RE JUST COORDINATING WITH WHAT'S THERE I HAD TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH THEM. 
          YEAH THREE LETTER COMPANY THAT WE DID. YEAH AND SO YEAH NO I LIKE I SAID THE COLOR PALETTE WAS MY CONCERN AND I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE LATTER SO AGAIN IF THEY CAN GET THAT SOME ANSWERS TO THAT IF THEY NEED IT'S STILL THERE OR NOT I WOULD QUESTION GOOD AN EMOTION A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE VERY INTO THAT WHAT IS THAT I'LL MAKE A MOTION IMPROVE THE CONDITION I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONS DETERMINATIONS RECOMMEND BY STAFF YEAH DO WE HAVE A SECOND AISLE SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR RIGHT YES UNANIMOUSLY 
          [VII.5. Livewell Terrace (Workshop - No Action): A request by Livewell Terrace L.P. (Woda Cooper Group), with authorization from the Property Owner Beaufort Memorial Hospital, for the acquisition of sixty (60) Residential Dwelling Units owned by the Town of Bluffton and held in the Town’s Development Rights Bank and a 100% density bonus pursuant to Section 6.5.4 of the Unified Development Ordinance for the affordable/workforce housing project to be known as Livewell Terrace located at 335 Buckwalter Parkway and identified as Beaufort County Tax Map No. R610 030 000 0712 0000 - Workshop - Kevin Icard, AICP, Director of Growth Management]
. ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON NEW BUSINESS. 
          THANK YOU SIR. ITEM NUMBER FIVE OUR NEWS BUSINESS LIVE WALL TERRACE AND IT'S A WORKSHOP WITH NO ACTION A REQUEST BY LIVE WALL TERRACE L.P. WALTER GROUP WITH AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER BEAUFORT HOSPITAL FOR THE ACQUISITION OF 60 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND HELD IN THE TOWN'S DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BANK IN A 100% DENSITY BONUS PURSUANT TO SECTION 6.5.4 OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AFFORDABLE SLASH WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT TO KNOWN AS LIVE WELL TERRACE LOCATED AT 335 BUCKWALTER PARKWAY AND IDENTIFIED BEAUFORT COUNTY TAX MAP NOTED IN THE AGENDA MR. GREAT THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE HERE THIS IS A WORKSHOP OPPORTUNITY AS WE HAVE UP HERE FOR THE FIRST OFFICIAL PRESENTATION OF THIS PROJECT. 
          THIS IS MINUTES JUST FOR INFORMATION THERE WILL BE NO VOTE TONIGHT SO I'M GOING TO 
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RUN THROUGH A PRESENTATION APPLICANT IS HERE MR. NESTOR CAN PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK YOU MAY YOU MAY HAVE SO AS WE STATED WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR TO REQUEST FIRST ONE IS GOING TO BE THE TRANSFER OF OUR TO USER RESIDENTIAL TO DWELLING UNITS FROM THE TOWN'S DEVELOPMENT BANK AND THIS WOULD GO TO THE APPLICANT WHICH ACTUALLY TO GO THROUGH BEFORE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AS WELL AS THE AUTHORIZED APPLICANT WHICH IS WHAT A COOPER GROUP AND THIS IS FOR A IT'S GOING TO BE 120 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX SPECIFICALLY FOR AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE COMPONENT TO IT AND IT'S WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING THAT THERE'S A 100% DENSITY BONUS THAT'S OUTLINED IN OUR STUDIO AND I'LL GO THROUGH IT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL HERE IN JUST A SECOND. JUST SO FOR A COUPLE OF IMAGES HERE FROM THE VICINITY MAP YOU SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ACROSS FROM TO REPLACE HERE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER OUT YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS WOODBRIDGE TO THE NORTH OF ALSO TO THE NORTH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW IS NOVANT HEALTH HAS STARTED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AT PARKSIDE AND BUCKWALTER TOWNS OF BUCKWALTER WALTERS TO THE SOUTH AS WE SAID BUCKWALTER PLACE TO THE WEST IN ANOTHER AERIAL YOU CAN SEE IT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE AND MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS PAINTED PINES AS WELL AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF BOUNDARY MAPS AS WELL . 
          SO IT'S TEN ACRES AS OF RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY TEN ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THIS PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED BY COUNTY FROM ST BY THE SEA FOR $3.2 MILLION AND YOU CAN SEE THE AUDIENCES THERE LISTEN, WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE YOU A TIMELINE AS TO HOW WE'VE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE AND THEN COUNTY UPDATED THIS ORDINANCE AND THEN CONVEYED IT TO MEMORIAL HOSPITAL WITH SOME CERTAIN PROVISIONS AND THEN BEFORE REQUESTED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL TO ACQUIRE 60 OF THE ART TO USE THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN IN OUR DEVELOPMENT BANK AND THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU AS AN ATTACHMENT FROM JANUARY AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 6000 SQUARE FOOT MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED ON THIS SITE. SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE 60 ALREADY UNITS THAT WE HAVE, THEY'RE SEEKING 100% DENSITY BONUS WHICH WE HAD TO THERE'S THERE'S A STATEMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS FOR PROVISIONS FOR TO INCENTIVIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING . SO INSTEAD OF TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL WE ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED A PROCESS WHICH IS THROUGH THE WINDOW. 
          SO IT'S WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT WITH OUR GOALS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT IF WE WERE IF WERE TO DO A 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT YOU GET THAT FULL DENSITY BONUS. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE 60 UNITS THEY'RE GOING TO DOUBLE THOSE UNITS AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE 120 UNITS TO CONSTRUCT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FORMATION SO ALSO THAT BEFORE MEMORIAL HAS AGREED THAT ONCE THEY HAVE CLEARLY ESTABLISHED THEIR MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING OF WHATEVER RIGHTS THAT THEY NEED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT, THEY'LL USE THOSE RIGHTS AND THEN WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER WOULD THEN COME TO THE TOWN AND BE PART OF THAT TOWN'S DENSITY BANK. SO REVIEWED THIS BASED OFF OF OUR OUR COMPREHENSIVE AND JUST PROVIDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL UNLESS YOU NEED ME TO BUT THERE WERE MULTIPLE ITEMS THAT WE HAD AND JUST THROUGH THEIR BLUEPRINT WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT INCENTIVIZE THE NEED FOR DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS. SO THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF US FOLLOWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS WONDERFUL AND THEN WE'RE WORKING WITH NONPROFIT GROUPS SO PEOPLE MEMORIAL WORKING WITH BOULDER COOPER IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THIS THIS IS OF THIS IS WHAT THEY WORK ON THEY DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS SO THERE'S NO POINT IN TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT PRETTY QUICKLY. SO WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE PROVISIONS AND SO WHEN TOWN COUNCIL EXPRESSED THEIR SUPPORT WE HAD ALL OF THE PROVISIONS THAT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS I'LL JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT THEM THAT THOSE HUNDRED AND 20 UNITS WILL BE HELD IN THE DEVELOPMENT RATE BANK UNTIL THEY ARE RELEASED. SO AT TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS WHEN IN ESSENCE WE KIND OF SAY WE'RE GIVING YOU THE UNITS RIGHT NOW BEFORE YOU APPLY FOR YOUR ABILITY OR WHEN YOU APPLY FOR YOUR BUILDING PERMITS AND THEN WE'RE IN ESSENCE TAKING THEM RIGHT OFF THE BOOKS. WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PREVENTS US FROM LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM ALL THE UNITS UP FRONT AND THEN WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS AND THEN THEY HAVE ALL THE UNITS BUT THEN NOTHING GETS BUILT SO THEY GET THEM IT'S 
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ROLLING ASSIGNMENT. SO AS SOON AS ONE BUILDING PERMITS COMING IN FOR THE BUILDING THEN THEY'RE ALL COMING ONLINE THAT WE'LL HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COVENANTS WILL BE REVIEWED AND BE DRAFTED REVIEWED BY THE TOWN. 
          IT WILL BE REPORTED IN THE REGISTER OF DEEDS WE TALKED ABOUT THE THAT NONE OF THESE UNITS CAN BE TRANSFERRED ANYWHERE ELSE SO THAT AGAIN COMMERCIAL RIGHTS THEY CAN'T THEY CAN'T USE THOSE RIGHTS TO TRANSFER OUT SO THAT'S PART OF THIS AGREEMENT AND THEN WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE ASSIGNMENT AGAIN THE ASSIGNMENT RIGHTS WHERE IT'LL BE DETERMINED YOU KNOW WHAT WHATEVER THEY NEED TO USE FOR THE MEDICAL FACILITY, THEY'LL USE IT AND ASSUME THAT ZONE THAT THEY WILL GIVE THE REST OF THE RIGHTS BACK TO THE TOWN . SO THERE'S A TWO STEP PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH OBVIOUSLY RIGHT NOW IS WITH THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. SO THE TRANSFER OF THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AS ASPECT OF AND THEN APPROVAL OF THE DENSITY BONUS THROUGH THE AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND CONSENT PLAN. SO TONIGHT I THINK I'VE GOT A CHART HERE THIS MIGHT HELP TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BETTER. WE HAVE TWO PATHS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND YOU CAN SEE WE'RE HERE ON JUNE 25TH. THIS IS THE WORKSHOP MEETING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT DO NOT NEED THAT'S WHY WE'RE WHILE WE'RE KIND OF REFERRING TO RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY DISCUSSING THAT ITEM AT THE THIS WORKSHOP BUT THOSE ITEMS WILL BE IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU NEXT MONTH WITH ALL THREE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION. SO THE INTENT IS THAT THAT WE HAVE THE NEXT MEETING WHICH WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 23RD AND THEN WHAT DOING IS DUE TO DUE TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS PROJECT DUE TO THE TRYING TO RECEIVE CERTAIN TAX CREDITS WE'RE ON A A RATHER ACCELERATED TIME FRAME. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NORMALLY DO FOR PROJECTS BUT IN THIS CASE WE FELT THAT IT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO ASSIST WITH THEM WORK THROUGH THIS PROJECT AS QUICK AS WE CAN SO YOU'LL SEE RIGHT HERE WHERE IT SAYS TOWN COUNCIL FIRST READING SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE WILL BRING THIS TO TOWN COUNCIL IN JULY TO A FIRST READING ON THEIR TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AS. 
          WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN AS YOU GUYS FIRST READING IN ESSENCE WILL ALMOST BE A FIRST READING BY NAME AND THEN WE'LL STILL HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THOSE ITEMS. SO YOU KNOW, JUST JUST IT'S NOTED THAT NORMALLY IT'S THE PROGRESSION IS PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION THAN FIRST READING THEN SECOND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO DO A PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST READING AND THEN PLANNING OUR TOWN COUNCIL FIRST READING PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AND THEN TOWN COUNCIL SECOND READING. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FROM A TIME FRAME THAT ORDER FOR THE TAX CREDITS TO WORK THAT IT HAS BE TAKEN CARE OF RELATIVELY QUICKLY I BELIEVE OCTOBER NOVEMBER OR IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN START TO GO FOR BUILDING PERMITS. SO WE'RE WORKING WE'VE GOT OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE FROM A BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH BUT WE'RE REALLY TO WORK WITH THEM IN ORDER TO GET THIS FACILITATED SO. THOSE ARE KIND OF THE NEXT STEPS I'M HAPPY TO. ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND FEEL FREE TO OPEN DIALOG. I'M GOING TO GO FOR BUILDING PERMITS WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF GETTING THERE. I UNDERSTAND. WHERE YOU GOING? WELL I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING. WE ARE SO GOOD WHAT'S NOT SHOWN ON THIS PORTION OF THE PROCESS IS WE ARE WORKING WITH APPLICANT FOR US TO START TO REVIEW THEIR PLANS. WE HAVE SET IT UP TO WHERE THAT PROJECT WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN AUGUST. SO THE GOAL IS IS THAT THE FIRST AND SECOND READINGS HAVE ESTABLISHED WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH THAT SECOND READING WITH TOWN COUNCIL SO HOPEFULLY IT'S ALL APPROVED AND THEN AT THE AUGUST TOWN COUNCIL MEETING YOU GUYS WILL ACTUALLY BE REVIEWING THE PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY PLAN. SO STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT FOR A WHILE. WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING THEIR PLANS FROM AN INFORMAL STANDPOINT THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEER HAS ACTUALLY WORKED THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PLANS SOME TIME AGO SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS AND SO THIS WILL BE THIS PROJECT WILL BE IN FRONT OF JUNE, JULY AND THEN AGAIN IN AUGUST THEY'VE ALREADY DONE IT. 
          IT WAS AND SUBMITTED TO CBC FOR STORMWATER. I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK ON THEIR ON THAT PORTION OF IT. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT THIS WEEK. OKAY. GOOD LUCK. 
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YEAH. HEY LOOK GETTING GETTING THROUGH CDC AND THROUGH FOUR MONTHS. YEAH AND I'LL START IT'S WITH THE DEVELOPER SO WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THE CDC PRIORITIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WORKS IN OUR FAVOR TO GET TO THAT PROCESS A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. BUT AS FAR AS THE HOUSING AND THE TAX CREDITS GO, WE DO HAVE TO AND BECAUSE THIS IS A BOND WE DO HAVE TO CLOSE ON THE PROJECT BY THE END OF NOVEMBER RIGHT DOWN THE LINE YOU'RE A BRIDGE. 
          GOOD, GOOD. YEAH. NO MORE SO ON UNDERSTANDING WHEN PEOPLE GET THE CREDIT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEY GET THE ADDITIONAL UNITS DOES COME FROM THE TOWN'S BANK OR THOSE ARE KIND OF CREATED UNITS THE DENSITY BONUS THE INCENTIVE YES . GOOD EXPLANATION YEAH. YES. 
          I WAS JUST I ASKED THEM THIS QUESTION PREVIOUSLY BUT JUST WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF GROSS, YOU KNOW, MEDIAN INCOME? DO YOU HAVE THE YOU KNOW, THE DIRECT NUMBERS PERCENTAGE OF I DON'T WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY THAT TO YOU BUT THERE IS A MIX AND I DON'T IF YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD HERE BUT I KNOW THERE'S A MIX THAT GOES IN THE REPORT IT'S THE EIGHTIES, 8060S AND DOWN SO THIS IS GOOD . 
          I THINK THAT YOU KNOW, A BIG PART OF RECEIVING THOSE TAX CREDITS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE LOWER AND LOWER LEVEL OF EMI AS WELL. AND TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, ONCE THESE ARE WORKFORCE HOUSING, ARE THEY FOREVER WORKFORCE OR ARE THEY LIKE IS THAT 30 IT'S A 30 YEAR YEAH. 30 YEAR BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THE SECTION EIGHT STUFF THAT WAS BUILT AROUND HERE AFTER ABOUT TEN YEARS OF MY HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER THAT'S THE TERM TO USE HOUSING CHOICE YOU ANSWER THAT. THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IN THIS MAY NOT APPLY BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THE NEW TOWN INCENTIVES FOR THAT ARE OUT THERE FOR WEST OF WALTER I KNOW THIS IS BARELY EAST OF WALTER MEDICAL FACILITIES AND SO ON. I'M AWARE OF THAT. YES, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO. I THINK THE BIGGEST THING WAS ACTUALLY GETTING GETTING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ASPECT OF IT JUST SO WE'RE NOT WE NEED MAKE SURE THAT'S ESTABLISHED FIRST BUT HAPPY DO THAT I KNOW OUR TOWN COUNCIL IS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT WORKING WITH EVERYONE WE BRING SHARE THEIR ATTENTION SO I MEAN IT'S A IT'S A THIS IS HUGE AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO EVEN THOUGH WALTER AND ESTHER'S A PART OF IT SO I JUST WELL A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HELP THIS RIGHT HERE WHERE WE'RE WE ARE WE'VE WE'VE EXPEDITED THIS PROCESS WELL I REMEMBER BEING A 20 SOMETHING WITH TWO KIDS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD A PLACE TO RUN HERE. 
          I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE NOW SO GLAD TO SEE THIS AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS AND WE'LL BE BACK AGAIN WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU NEXT MONTH. 
          OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS MY NAME IS WALTER NESTOR. I'M WITH THE PERFORMING LAW FIRM AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE HOW HARD THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS. I KNOW IT'S NOT TRADITIONAL BUT THERE'S A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT IN TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND WE APPRECIATE NOT ONLY THE COMMISSIONERS BUT ALSO STAFF AND THEIR WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY GUYS. WITH THAT AGENDA ITEM DONE, IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEM FOR DISCUSSION Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE OR WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN SECOND SESSION? OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR I
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.