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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORD COUNTY.
[1. Call to Order]
GOOD AFTERNOON.I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TOWN COUNCIL MEETING OF TUESDAY, JUNE 17TH, TWO, 2025 TO ORDER, IF YOU WILL, STAND AND JOIN ME IN SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALL FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
CONSIDER REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY.
STRONG FOR CONTINUED STANDING.
AS WE HAVE PASTOR STEVE SALVA FROM GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH, JOIN US.
LET'S BOW OUR HEADS AND PRAY TOGETHER PLEASE.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHOM YOU HAVE ORDAINED TO SERVE.
AND THE MINISTRY OF GOVERNMENT.
THE BIBLE COMMANDS, UH, THAT WE PRAY FOR THEM.
AND SO WE BEGIN BY PRAYING FOR OUR MAYOR, FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR TOWN COUNCIL, GOD BLESS EACH ONE OF THEM.
GRANT THEM WISDOM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK AND VISIT AND ENJOY THIS ISLAND.
AND ESPECIALLY LORD, AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE HEARING OF SHOOTINGS OF GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS.
PLEASE PROTECT OUR MAYOR, PROTECT OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES.
WATCH OVER THEM PLEASE, AND KEEP THEM SAFE FROM HARM.
BLESS THIS MEETING TODAY AS THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS AND THE BUSINESS OF THE ISLAND, GUIDE THEIR DISCUSSION AND MAY YOUR WILL BE DONE HERE.
GOD, I PRAY A SPECIAL BLESSING ON CHIEF HARBERGER AND HIS FAMILY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HIS COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS ISLAND.
FOR AS MANY YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE AS A MEMBER OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BLESS HIM IN RETIREMENT, MAY HE ENJOY MANY HEALTHY YEARS AHEAD.
AND IN THINKING OF THE CHIEF, I THANK TWO OF ALL FIRST RESPONDERS, PROTECT THEM AND BLESS THEM IN A SPECIAL WAY TODAY.
AND YOU, FOR YOUR GRACE AND FOR HEARING OUR PRAYER, YOURS ALONE IS THE KINGDOM AND THE POWER AND THE GLORY FOREVER.
[4. Adoption of the Agenda]
THE ADOPTION OF THE AGENDA, MR. LAND, DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TODAY? NO, SIR.WITH THAT, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT? SECOND, WE GOT A FIRST AND SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[5. Presentations and Recognitions]
OF, UH, JEFFREY HARBERGER.MR. HARBERGER IS OUR LINE BATTALION CHIEF AND RETIRING.
MR. HART BERGER, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AND JOIN ME HERE AT THIS SMALL PODIUM.
HOW DO YOU TURN THIS THING ON? IT'S FINE.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS, RIGHT? AND I'VE, I'VE KNOWN THE HARBERGER FAMILY FOR A LONG TIME.
UM, AS FAR BACK AS WELL, I WORKED WITH MY FATHER-IN-LAW.
SO SPECIAL TO BE HERE TODAY TO, TO RECOGNIZE YOU.
SO IT, IT IS AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SAY A FEW WORDS TODAY ABOUT SOMEONE WHO DEDICATED MORE THAN 40, 40 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND BATTALION CHIEF JEFF HARBERGER.
JEFF BEGAN HIS FIRE SERVICE CAREER ON SEPTEMBER 14TH, 1984.
JUST ONE YEAR AFTER THE TOWN WAS INCORPORATED.
IN FACT, JEFF WAS HIRED BY THE FIRE CHIEF AT THE TIME, WHO JUST SO HAPPENS TO BE MY FATHER-IN-LAW, CHIEF DAVID MCCLELLAN.
SO THIS IS A FULL CIRCLE MOMENT AND A PERSONABLE PERSONAL ONE FOR ME.
OVER THE YEARS, JEFF WATCHED OUR ALLEN GROW AND TRANSFORM, AND THROUGH IT ALL, HE'S BEEN A STEADY, KNOWLEDGEABLE, TRIED AND TRUE PRESENCE WITHIN OUR FIRE AND RESCUE TEAM.
HE WAS PROMOTED TO BAT BATTALION CHIEF IN JANUARY, 2008,
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AND HAS SERVED IN THAT ROLE WITH INTEGRITY, CONSISTENCY, AND TRUE DEDICATION EVER SINCE.JEFF IS CURRENTLY OUR LONGEST SERVING EMPLOYEE.
IT'S EXCEPTIONAL AND VERY RARE IN THIS DAY AND AGE, HE HAS TRAINED, MENTORED, AND INFLUENCED MANY FIREFIGHTERS THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, HELPING TO SHAPE THE DEPARTMENT INTO WHAT IT IS TODAY.
AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S LIVED HERE DURING JEFF'S ENTIRE CAREER, I CAN TELL YOU THE TOWN IS BETTER, STRONGER, AND SAFER BECAUSE OF HIS SERVICE.
WE KNOW JEFF IS LOOKING FORWARD TO RETIREMENT, WHICH ACTUALLY BEGINS JULY ONE, AND HE'S NOT JUST KICKING BACK.
I'VE SEEN THE RV HE'S GOT AND IT'S PRETTY NICE, AND HE'LL BE TRAVELING AROUND ON THAT
SO AS A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION, WE HAVE A GIFT FOR YOU TO GO OFF IN STYLE, LISA.
ALL RIGHT, WE'VE GOT TWO TOP OF THE LINE YETI CAMP CHAIRS.
WE HOPE THEY'LL COME IN HANDY AS YOU AND DEB RELAX BY THE WATER FIRE PIT OR A SCENIC OVERLOOK SOMEWHERE FAR FROM DISPATCH.
JEFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR DECADES OF SERVICE, YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EXAMPLES YOU'VE SENT AND, AND PRESENTED TO ALL OF US.
WE WISH YOU NOTHING BUT GREAT ADVENTURES AND SMOOTH TRAVELS IN THE NEXT CHAPTER.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU MAYBE AT TOWN EVENTS, OR EVEN WAVING FROM OUR VOTE.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT AND NOTHING BUT BEST OF WISHES.
ALRIGHT, ONE MORE, WHICH WAY? AND THAT ONE, ONE, WITHOUT ME,
UP NEXT, WE'LL HEAR FROM TOWN MANAGER, MARK ORLANDO, THE REPORT OF THE TOWN MANAGER.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
I HAVE A FEW THINGS, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT TODAY.
SO, UM, BEAR WITH ME FOR A MINUTE.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO RECONVENING WITH YOU ON MONDAY, JUNE 24TH FROM 9:00 AM UNTIL 3:00 PM HERE AT TOWN HALL.
I'M A LITTLE OUT OF BREATH FROM TAKING THOSE STAIRS.
THIS SESSION WILL BUILD ON OUR PREVIOUS WORKSHOPS AND WE WILL PRESENT THE PROPOSED STRATEGIC GOALS, PRIORITIES, AND ACTION ITEMS FOR YOUR REVIEW.
SO IT'S A FOLLOW UP TO THE COUPLE DAYS THAT WE'VE HAD SOME MONTHS AGO AS WE GET BACK TOGETHER TO PRIORITIZE THOSE STRATEGIC PLANNING ELEMENTS.
SO AGAIN, HERE, MONDAY, JUNE 24, 9 TO THREE, RIGHT IN THIS ROOM.
UH, SEVERAL CAPITAL PROJECT UPDATES, WILLIAM HILTON PARKWAY.
THREE, AS WE'VE BEEN CALLING IT, AS YOU HAVE REFERRED TO IT, IT'S REALLY THE WORK BETWEEN BEACH CITY ROAD AND DILLON ROAD.
PROGRESS CONTINUES ON THOSE PEDA PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.
UM, STRIPINGS UNDERWAY, LIGHTING'S UNDERWAY.
WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL RECENT RAIN DELAYS, BUT WE STILL REMAIN ON TRACK TO REACH SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
SO WE'RE REALLY APPRECIATIVE, JEFF INGER, SEAN LEININGER AND AND, AND THE TEAM APPRECIATIVE OF, OF THAT.
AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE AS WELL THROUGHOUT THIS PROJECT.
UM, ONCE WE'RE DONE THAT WE'LL SHIFT OUR FOCUS TO THE GUMTREE ROAD SCHOOL ZONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY.
I RECENTLY HEARD BACK FROM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR MICHAEL MOORE, AND THEY HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT SUPPORTS THE USE OF BEAUFORT COUNTY TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES TO HELP FUND THOSE SCHOOL ZONE AND THOSE GUMTREE ROAD ENHANCEMENTS.
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UM, WE'RE ANY DAY NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT BARKER FIELD TO IMPROVE THE FIELD SPACE LIGHTING BLEACHERS GOALS AND, AND SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THAT, UM, SAW GRASS OUT THERE.CROSSINGS PARK PICKLEBALL FACILITY.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON IT.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS RECENTLY.
CIVIL DESIGNS PROGRESSING, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE'RE FAR ENOUGH ALONG.
WE'VE APPLIED FOR THE FEDERAL WETLAND PERMIT AND THE COASTAL ZONE CONSISTENCY PERMIT.
THOSE TAKE MONTHS, RIGHT? SOME OF THEM TAKE NINE PLUS MONTHS.
UM, THIS PROJECT CONTINUES TO ADVANCE AND IS ON TRACK TO START ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR PENDING PERMIT APPROVAL.
SO GREAT NEWS ON THAT BEACH RENOURISHMENT PHASE ONE CONTRACT HAS BEEN EXECUTED.
PERMITTING FOR PINE ISLAND IS SECURED.
AND THAT'S BEEN OUR BIG NEXT STEP, AND WE'VE RECEIVED THAT, THAT PERMIT.
WE'RE FINALIZING COST ESTIMATES AND WE'LL BRING A BEACH PRESERVATION BOND PROPOSAL THROUGH FINANCE ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE, UM, AND ULTIMATELY TO TOWN COUNCIL LATER THIS SUMMER.
THIS THUS FAR, PRICING IS ON POINT WITH THE OPINION OF PROBABLE COST THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU.
AND THIS PROJECT PRICING SO FAR IS COMING IN OR ON OR UNDER BUDGET.
ENCHILADAS RE STRIPING LIGHTING UPGRADES ARE COMPLETE.
WE'RE ENHANCING SOME OF THE FRONT LAWN, AND THEN WE'RE STARTING A PROJECT TO ADD SOME PARKING SPACES TO THE REAR OF THAT SITE.
SO LOOK OUT FOR, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT TYPE OF OF WORK.
MITCHELLVILLE ROAD PAVING, THE LAND DISTURBANCE, COASTAL ZONE CONSISTENCY PERMIT IS IN HAND.
THE PROJECT'S OUT TO BID BIDS ARE DUE TOMORROW.
SO THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND APPRECIATIVE.
ANOTHER PERSON'S LAST DAY HERE.
UH, WE RECOGNIZE MISSY LEIC, UH, MISSY'S DEDICATED SERVICE FROM SENIOR PLANNER ALL THE WAY UP TO PLANNING DIRECTOR OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT, THAT WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY TOGETHER.
YOU'VE, YOU'VE CONTRIBUTED SO MUCH TO OUR SUCCESS, TO YOUR SUCCESS.
I WAS AT MISSY'S, UH, SAD BUT HAPPY.
I GUESS THE THEME WAS GOING AWAY, PARTY TODAY.
UM, AND WE JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOU AND HOW MUCH WE'LL MISS YOU AND HOW MUCH WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOU.
UM, COUPLE, COUPLE, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS AS WELL.
WE'VE, WE'VE FILLED A FEW OPEN POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
THE LANDSCAPE AND GROUNDS MANAGER AND THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.
SO THOSE ARE TWO SIGNIFICANT, UM, ADDS TO OUR TEAM.
JACOB DUEL, UH, OUR, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF IT HAS COMPLETED THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH CAROLINA MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION PROGRAM.
THAT'S THE, FOR, FOR HIM AND FOR US, A SIGNIFICANT LEADERSHIP MILESTONE.
SO WE APPRECIATE JACOB'S EXTRA TIME THAT HE PUT INTO THAT PROGRAM, UM, TO GROW.
UH, TOM SUNDAY, UH, HAS BEEN ELECTED TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA CHAPTER OF THE GMIS, UH, GROWTH GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SCIENCES IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND IT ADVANCES IT IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
AND THERE'S COUNTY, CITY, LOCAL AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS THAT MAKE UP OF THAT.
TOM'S ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF HIM FOR SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY.
WE'VE HAD A STRONG PARTICIPATION IN THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AT MITCHELLVILLE FREEDOM PARK.
GO OUT TO THE OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS, THE GULLAH GEECHEE, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, CDC, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ADMINISTRATIVE TEAMS, OUR FIRE RESCUE TEAM, PARTICULARLY, I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WHILE I WAS THERE WITH A BUNCH OF STAFF MEMBERS, ROBIN, SHERRY, UM, AND VERONICA, AND AS WELL AS A WHOLE BUNCH OF, OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND A, A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO ANGIE STONE, HER CONTINUED LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION, ESPECIALLY AT THESE EVENTS THAT BRING OUR COMMUNITY, UH, TOGETHER, UH, DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED.
UH, LANTERN PARADE 2024 LANTERN PARADE WAS BROADCAST LIVE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN PARTNERSHIP WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY TV.
IN THE VIDEO, JUST RECEIVED A BRONZE TELE AWARD IN THE SOCIAL VIDEO CATEGORY.
SO CONGRATS TO NATALIE, ANGIE BUFORT COUNTY, AND EVERYONE INVOLVED.
UM, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU TOWN COUNCIL ON JULY 15TH.
FIRST READING OF SEVERAL, UM, LMO AMENDMENTS, THOSE PRIORITY ELEMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
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STANDARDS, SIGN REGS, DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, PROCEDURES, OPEN SPACE, TRAFFIC IMPACT PROTECTION AND AND WHATNOT.UM, AND AGAIN, THAT IS A TESTAMENT TO MISSY'S HARD WORK AND, AND GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND ALIGNMENT WITH SEAN LEININGER AND A AND A THANK YOU TO COMMUNITY SERVICE, PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL TOWN COUNCIL FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND, AND DIRECTION SO FAR ON THAT.
SO A LOT OF WORK, GREAT WORK CAP PROJECT WISE, PERSONNEL WISE, AND SOME PUBLIC POLICY WISE.
[6. Reports from Members of Town Council]
NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO GENERAL REPORTS, MS. BECKER.SO FIRST, UM, AND I'M SO PLEASED TO SEE SO MANY OF OUR FIRE AND RESCUE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT.
I WANNA SEND OUT A HUMBLE AND, UM, INCREDIBLY HEARTFELT MESSAGE FROM ALL OF US WHO ARE DEAR FRIENDS OF GRACE SMITH.
UM, ON SATURDAY, HE HAD AN EVENT THAT REQUIRED, UM, A FIRE AND RESCUE TO COME OUT.
JOB WAS REMARKABLE, EXCEPTIONAL.
NOT THAT WE EXPECTED ANYTHING LESS, BUT I WANNA LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO SO MANY ON THIS ISLAND THAT YOU TOOK HIM FROM A PLACE THAT WAS VERY DIRE AND ALLOWED HIM TO GET TO THE HOSPITAL SO THAT THE DOCTORS COULD CONTINUE YOUR GOOD WORK AND TO HOPEFULLY SAVE HIS LIFE.
WE ALL CONTINUE TO PRAY WITH HIM, LITERALLY MOMENT BY MOMENT FOR HIM.
BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO DO IF IT HADN'T BEEN FIRST FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSE, FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND YOUR INCREDIBLE ABILITY TO SAVE LIVES ON THIS ISLAND, AND THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.
OTHER COMMENTS? CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT, TO THE FULL COMMUNITY ON HILTON HEAD, WHETHER YOU KNOW GRAY OR NOT, TO PLEASE KEEP YOU AND HIS, HIM AND HIS PRAYER, YOUR PRAYERS.
UM, HE NEEDS THEM AND THEY ARE WORKING AND, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, IF THERE AREN'T ANY I, ANYBODY ELSE I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT TWO THAT I'D LIKE TO, TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU, MARK.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK TOWN STAFF, UM, TO GET WITH BUFORT COUNTY AND, AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE GAS STATION OVER THE BRIDGE.
UM, WHILE IT'S NOT ON HILTON HEAD, IT'S NOT IN BLUFFTON, IT'S IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY.
UM, THE GRAFFITI THAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT BUILDING HAS BECOME TOO MUCH AND IT'S ALSO NOW HAPPENING ON THE BRIDGES OVER SKULL CREEK.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COUNTY AND THE SHERIFF AS TO WHERE THEY STAND WITH THAT.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK TOWN STAFF TO REACH OUT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE PROVIDING US FOR COVERAGE.
UM, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF POLICE COVERAGE WE HAVE HERE AT NIGHT, AND WE HAVE GOTTA BE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE BEING PROTECTED.
UM, TOO MANY THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH INFORMATION.
AND THAT IF, IF THAT CAN COME BACK AND EITHER GO THROUGH CSPS OR DIRECT THE COUNSEL, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
BUT I THINK IT IS TIME THAT WE REALLY START TO ASK THE SHERIFF WHAT HE IS DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMITTEE REPORTS.
UM, MS. BECKER, WE HAVE LOW COUNTRY AREA TRANSPORTATION STUDY, ALSO KNOWN AS LATS.
AND, UM, ON JUNE 6TH, THE, UM, LATS COMMITTEE MET, THERE WERE SOME GENERAL REPORTS ABOUT THE REGION.
THE ONES THAT PARTICULARLY IMPACT HILTON HAD, UM, WAS, UM, NOT TERRIFICALLY EVENTFUL.
THE 2 78 UPDATE INDICATED THAT NOTHING HAS YET BEEN, HAS COME ACROSS AS A FORMAL DECISION.
UM, AND THAT THE PALMETTO BREEZE AND TROLLEY THAT, UM, RUNS THROUGH THE REGION AND HERE, RIGHT HERE ON HILTON HEAD IS, UM, THEIR BUDGET IS, UM, AND THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR HELP WITH THEIR BUDGET.
AND SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION MAYOR, THAT I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL OUGHT TO BE AWARE OF.
AND, UM, PERHAPS IN A LATER MEETING WE CAN, UM, DISCUSS AND PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS.
I DO HAVE A MEETING SET UP WITH THAT, UM, CHAIR.
UM, THOSE MEETINGS, THE LATS MEETINGS ARE OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS.
THEY'RE HELD OVER AT THE, UM, UH, HOSPITALITY CENTER IN BLUFFTON.
AND, UM, I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE TIME TO SHOW UP AND SIT AND LISTEN, UM, AND CONTRIBUTE, ESPECIALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE ISSUES ON HELD HEAD.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ALFRED.
LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.
UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY AIRPORTS BOARD.
YES, WE HAVE TWO CALLS TO ACTION.
THERE'S AN RFP OUT FOR RETAIL, FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND SPECIAL SPECIALTY SERVICES CONCESSIONS FOR THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT.
IT WAS POSTED YESTERDAY, AND IT WILL BE OPEN UNTIL
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JULY 23RD DUE TO THE TERMINAL RENOVATIONS.THERE'LL BE NEW AND IMPROVED COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE AIRPORT, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR VENDORS THAT OFFER LOCAL AND REGIONAL FOCUS AND ALSO LOOKING TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES HERE ON THE ISLAND.
YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION BY LOOKING AT THE OPEN DOT, UH, OPEN GOV.COM PORTAL OR JUST GOOGLING IT ON YOUR BROWSER.
SECOND CALL TO ACTION IS THE AIRPORT IS ALSO SEEKING SUBMISSIONS FROM LOCAL ARTISTS FOR A DISPLAY IN THE NEW TERMINAL ENTRIES, UH, MAY FEATURE ANY MEDIUM OF ARTWORK THAT CAN BE DIGITALLY REPRODUCED FOR A VINYL APPLICATION.
THAT'S GONNA BE PRETTY LARGE, 29 BY 11 FEET.
AND IT'S GONNA BE INSTALLED ON A GLASS WALL SEPARATING THE TSA AND THE GATES.
UH, THE ENTRY SHOULD REFLECT THE ISLAND'S NATURAL BEAUTY, RICH CULTURE, VIBRANT COMMUNITY, AND SENSE OF PLACE.
ARTISTS MAY SUBMIT UP TO FOUR WORKS BY AUGUST 1ST, AND YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THIS FROM THE BEAUFORT COUNTY WEBSITE OR JUST GOOGLE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT ART SUBMISSIONS.
UH, TWO OTHER BUSINESS ITEMS. THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, UM, FOR THE HILTON HEAD AIRPORT WILL BE RELOCATING TO A BUILDER AT BUILDING AT 26 HUNTER ROAD.
A CONTRACT IS GOING THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PACKAGE FOR THE RENOVATION AND EXPANSION OF THE BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND THERE IS WAS ALSO AUTHORIZATION OF A CONTRACT FOR LEGAL SERVICES TO SUPPORT PROJECT CLOUD ON HILTON HEAD.
LEGAL ASSISTANCE IS REQUESTED FOR DRAFTING AND NEGOTIATING AN AGREEMENT OR LEASE BETWEEN LONG PALMETTO AND BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR A NEW FIXED BASE OPERATION.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON AS THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AGREEMENT.
THANK YOU, MS. BRYSON, SOUTHERN LOW COUNTRY REGIONAL BOARD.
THANK YOU TO MS. HUNTER FOR THAT THOROUGH REPORT AND, UH, HEARING ABOUT THE, UH, THE ART MURAL, THE MURAL, UH, DISPLAY, AND THE RFP FOR THAT.
I THINK IF WE ARE NOT DOING IT ALREADY, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO PUT ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A, A NUMBER OF WONDERFUL ARTISTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND A NUMBER OF FOLKS INTERESTED IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND TELLING OUR STORY HERE.
SO I THINK THAT'D BE A, A GOOD PARTNERSHIP TO WORK WITH THE AIRPORT BOARD ON THAT.
UH, WE HAD A MEETING ON MAY 27, UM, IN HARDY BE AND STILL WORKING, UM, ON, UH, A REGIONAL PLANNING IDEA.
AND ESPECIALLY LOOKING TOWARDS A GROWTH PLANNING WORKSHOP.
A PROPOSAL WAS PRESENTED BY THE COUNTY PLANNING DIRECTOR.
UM, AND ESTIMATE FOR THE SERVICES OF A FACILITATOR FOR THE WORKSHOP WOULD BE $75,000.
AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO SHARE IT AMONGST THE DIFFERENT, UM, JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE PART OF SO LOCO, UH, BASED ON POPULATION.
UM, AND OUR MAYOR PERRY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BUILT OUT AREA ON HILTON HEAD, MAYBE WE ALSO OUGHT TO LOOK AT A PERCENTAGE OF, OF BUILT AREA REMAINING.
SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT HOW, UM, IF ALL TO SHARE IN THE ESTIMATED COST.
UM, IN ADDITION, UM, CITY OF HARVILLE AND A COUPLE OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE LOOKING AT, UM, THE CHILDCARE SUBCOMMITTEE'S REPORT.
HARVILLE IS GOING TO BE A PILOT TEST CASE FOR THAT.
THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AND TOWN OF PORT ROYAL HAVE ADOPTED THAT.
UM, TOWN OF BLUFFTON WANTS TO HEAR PRESENTATION FROM THAT COMMITTEE BEFORE DECIDING.
UM, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD FOR US TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MAYOR AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
THAT PROPOSAL, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO GET ONE THIRD FROM, UH, THE FUNDING FOR THAT PROPOSAL FROM THE STATE BUDGET.
THE NEXT MEETING OF, SO LOCO WILL BE IN BLUFFTON ON JUNE 24TH AT 10 O'CLOCK.
UM, MAYOR AND I WILL BOTH BE TIED UP WITH OUR WORKSHOP HERE, UM, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET A REPORT BACK ON THAT.
IT IS, UH, THE, THE MEETING ITSELF IS BROADCAST ONLINE IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW IT.
UM, AND UM, THAT'S THE REPORT FROM ERCO.
YEAH, I'LL ADD, I JUST WANNA ADD A COUPLE THINGS.
UM, ANGIE STONE IS WORKING ON THE, THE REGIONAL PLAN AND ALSO THE, UH, CHILDCARE ASPECT TO BRING TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.
AND ALSO, UM, SHE WILL AT THE SAME TIME BE BRINGING FORTH, UM, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT DRILLING OFFSHORE AS TO WHAT OUR STANCE IS ON THAT.
SO LOOK FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
UH, MR. BROWN ISLAND RECREATION ASSOCIATION.
UM, SUMMER CAMP IS IN WEEK THREE.
I TOLD MR. SO THIS, I WANNA SHARE THIS REAL QUICK.
SO, UH, MY GRANDSON, UH, IS ATTENDING SUMMER CAMP AT THE ISLAND REC CENTER.
I PICKED HIM UP ONE DAY AND I GUESS IT WAS HIS FIRST DAY.
AND HE SAYS, GRANDDADDY, I DON'T LIKE THE REC CENTER.
SO KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FRANK, UH,
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FOR DOING A GREAT JOB OVER THERE.THE CHALLENGE CAMP IS IN WEEK TWO WITH MANY FIELD TRIPS TO STATION 300 AND THE BEACH.
OVER 120 FUTURE BASKETBALL STARS HAVE BEEN THROUGH JESSE EDDIE'S BASKETBALL CAMPS.
THE ASSOCIATION HAS ALSO HOSTED CHEER IN VOLLEYBALL CAMP SO FAR THIS SUMMER, 60 PLUS CHILDREN HAVE TAKEN PART IN SWIMMING LESSONS THROUGH THE FIRST THREE WEEKS.
TENNIS LESSONS HAVE BEEN HELD AT CILLA COURTS SUMMER JAM ON TUESDAY NIGHTS AT SHELTER CODE PARK.
THE NEXT PARK IN THE NEXT PARK IN THE PARK AT LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK IS THURSDAY, JUNE 26TH FROM 6:00 PM TO EIGHT 30.
AND, UH, FINALLY THE BOARD WILL BE DISCUSSING THE MOST RECENT CUTS IN ITS, UH, BUDGET BY BEAUFORT COUNTY.
UM, THE COUNTY APPROVED, UH, $8 MILLION PARKS AND REC LINE ITEM, UH, AND PROVIDE NO SERVICES HERE ON HILTON HEAD.
UM, AND, UH, ONLY ALLOTTED, UM, OUR RECS IN 173.
UM, I JUST ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO OUR REPRESENTATIVES AT THE COUNTY, UH, SO THAT THERE'S A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE GREAT SERVICES THAT THE ISLAND REC PROVIDES.
UH, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, UM, WE ARE OUR FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTORS TO MONIES THAT GO OVER TO THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY COME BACK.
UH, SO THAT'S A CHARGE FOR ALL OF US ON COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
NEXT UP IS THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
UM, MR. BROWN, GULLAH GEECHEE, HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
UH, NO REPORT EXCEPT FOR THE, UH, THE MEETING FOR TOMORROW HAS BEEN CANCELED.
UH, MS. BECKER COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SO THE COMMUNITY SERVICE PUBLIC SAFETY CSPS FOR SHORT MET YESTERDAY AND, UM, WENT OVER A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT BRIEFLY IN THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT, AND HAVE MOVED THOSE ALONG WITH SEVERAL COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FOR, TO ADDRESS, UM, TO TOWN COUNCIL.
UM, THIS EVENING, WE WILL, UM, PRESENT TO THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL OUR WORK OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, UM, WHERE WE HAVE INTERVIEWED CANDIDATES FOR OPENINGS ON OUR, UM, COM COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS.
AND AFTER DOING THAT, UM, THE COUNCIL WILL RECONVENE OUT HERE AND TAKE A VOTE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, I WANNA SAY THAT WE HAD AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN OUR TOWN COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS.
WE APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM.
IT'S HARD TO PICK THROUGH AND TO DECIDE ON JUST A SMALL FEW TO INTERVIEW TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT WHEN WE DO THAT, THE OTHERS ARE NOT LOST.
AND AS OPENINGS COME IN, WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK AND, UM, RECOMMEND SOME OF THOSE THAT DIDN'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT THROUGH THIS TIME.
WITH THAT, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING SPECIFICALLY FOR AN ARCHITECT, SOMEONE WHO IS A LICENSED REGISTERED ARCHITECT TO JOIN, UM, THE BZA.
AND I NEED APPLICANTS FROM ANYONE ON HILTON HEAD WHO HAS THOSE CREDENTIALS AND IS SO MOVED TO, UM, SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY.
UM, AND THEN FOR EVERYONE ELSE, AS YOU ARE MOVED TO DO SO, PLEASE FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND JOIN IN ON HELPING TO MAKE HILTON HEAD A WORLD CLASS COMMUNITY.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, UH, MR. BROWN FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE.
YES, THE FNA COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING ON NEXT THURSDAY AT 10:00 AM UH, WE WILL BE DI DISCUSSING A ACCOMMODATION TAX POLICY, UM, FOR ALLOCATION OF AT TAX DOLLARS.
I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SHOW UP.
OUR MEETINGS DON'T REALLY BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE, UM,
NEXT, WE'LL GO ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
[7.a. Consideration of an Ordinance of the Town Council of the Town of Hilton Head Island amending Municipal Code Section 2-5-60 Committees of Council - First Reading - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]
OF, UH, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AMENDING MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION TWO DASH FIVE DASH 60 COMMITTEES OF COUNCIL.THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE IN APRIL.
STAFF RECEIVED DIRECTION FROM FINANCE ADMINISTRATION AND THE ORDINANCE IS NOW BEING BROUGHT TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
MR. THANK YOU, MAYOR TOWN COUNCIL TOWN MANAGER, SEAN COLE, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
UM, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS, IS AN, UM, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, RELATED TO COMMITTEES OF COUNCIL.
AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, THIS WENT TO THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE IN APRIL,
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UH, WHERE THEY PROVIDED DIRECTION TO STAFF RELATED TO PROVISIONS THEY'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE.AND SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO, I'M GONNA WALK THROUGH WHAT THE CURRENT CODE SAYS, WHAT THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS IN APRIL, AND THEN IT'S REALLY UP TO TOWN COUNCIL TO DECIDE WHICH OF THE OPTIONS, UM, THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT THEY'D LIKE TO IMPLEMENT, UM, FOR HOW THEY CONDUCT BUSINESS AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AND HOW ITEMS ADVANCE TO TOWN COUNCIL.
THE COMMITTEE DIRECTION, UM, WAS TO PROVIDE A PROVISION IN THE, IN THE ORDINANCE, UH, THAT ALLOWS ESTABLISHING TWO OR MORE STANDING COMMITTEES.
THE CURRENT CODE ESTABLISHES THREE.
THEY ESTABLISHES THREE BY NAME, FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMUNITY SERVICE, AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC PLANNING.
THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ESTABLISH TWO OR MORE STANDING COMMITTEES, UM, BUT NOT NAME THE COMMITTEES AT THIS TIME.
THEIR DIRECTION WAS ONCE THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS ADOPTED, AND WE ANTICIPATE TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL IN JULY BASED ON THE WORK, UH, PROGRAM WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THE WORK COULD BE, UM, ALLOCATED TO THE TWO COMMITTEES OR MORE OF COUNCIL CHOOSES, UH, BASED ON THE WORK PROGRAM AND NOT NECESSARILY A PRESCRIBED LIST OF FOCUS AREAS IS, UM, THE NEXT ITEM WAS RELATED TO COMMITTEE COMPOSITION.
THE CURRENT CODE PROVIDES THAT EACH COMMITTEE INCLUDE FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ONE ALTERNATE.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, OPERATING WITH TWO COMMITTEES WITH THREE MEMBERS, UH, ON EACH COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT THE PROPOSED CODE, UH, PROVISIONS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE WERE TO HAVE EACH COMMITTEE COMPRISE OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ONE ALTERNATE.
SO IT'D BE A PRODUCTION OF ONE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM FOUR TO THREE WITH AN ALTERNATE.
UH, THE NEXT COMPONENT WAS THAT THE MAYOR APPOINTS MEMBERS ALTERNATES AND COMMITTEE CHAIRS.
THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THAT.
AND SO THAT PROVISION WOULD REMAIN, UM, IN THE, UM, IN THE CODE AS, UH, UH, IF CONFIRM BY TOWN COUNCIL
UM, THE CODE CURRENTLY ALLOWS THE CREATION OF NON STANDING OR AN AD HOC COMMITTEES.
UM, THEY CAN BE COMPRISED OF COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COUNCIL MAY ALSO CHOOSE TO INCLUDE CITIZEN MEMBERS.
UM, INTERESTING POINT HERE THAT TERMS WOULD END WITH A CURRENT SEATED COUNCIL.
UM, THERE'S, THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THAT SECTION, AND SO THAT SECTION WOULD MOVE FORWARD IF SUPPORTED BY TOWN COUNCIL.
RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR COMMITTEE OPERATIONS.
THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS TOWN COUNCIL TO ADOPT RULES AND PROCEDURES BY RESOLUTION FOR STANDING COMMITTEES AND OTHER COMMITTEES.
THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UM, MAINTAIN THAT SAME AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH, UH, UM, RULES, UM, BY RESOLUTION.
AND THE, UM, DECISION BEFORE TOWN COUNCIL IS TO RE REAFFIRM THAT ABILITY TO ADOPT THOSE PROCEDURAL RULES.
AND THEN FOR BUSINESS, AS ITEMS MOVE FROM COMMITTEE, ONCE AN ITEM'S PLACED ON A COMMITTEE AGENDA, IT'S EVALUATED, UM, VETTED.
UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY NO CLEAR PROCESS IN, IN THE SECTION OF CODE RELATED TO COUNCIL COMMITTEES ON HOW ITEMS ADVANCE FROM COMMITTEE.
THERE WERE TWO OPTIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED, UM, TO THE COMMITTEE BACK IN APRIL.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE WAS TO REQUIRE COMMITTEES TO TAKE ACTION ON AGENDA ITEMS IN FRONT OF THEM.
UM, AND WORKING WITH OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME OPTIONS FOR WHAT ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE.
UM, ONE IS TO FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION TO TOWN COUNCIL.
THE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL NEXT IS TO RECOMMEND THE ITEM TO TOWN COUNCIL.
THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DISAPPROVAL, OR THE COMMITTEE TAKES NO ACTION AT ALL.
BUT UNDER THOSE ITEMS, THE ITEMS STILL ADVANCES TO TOWN COUNCIL.
AS TOWN COUNCIL ULTIMATELY IS CHARGED TO MAKE FINAL DECISION ON ACTION ITEMS BEFORE IT AS, AS THE LEGISLATIVE, UH, POLICY BODY.
SO AS I WORK THROUGH THESE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF I GO THROUGH EACH SECTION AND TO SEE WHERE COUNCIL, UH, MEMBERS ARE ON EACH ONE.
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OF STANDING COMMITTEES, CURRENTLY THERE'S THREE NAMED IN THE CODE DIRECTION FROM COMMITTEE WAS TO ALLOW FOR TWO OR MORE TO NOT NAME THEM AT THIS POINT, BUT WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE PROGRAM OF WORK ADOPTED, AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS MADE.AND THEN A RESOLUTION BROUGHT FORWARD SUBSEQUENT TO THAT ACTION TO DIVVY UP THE WORK PROGRAM TO THE COMMITTEES THAT WOULD BE DONE BY A SEPARATE RESOLUTION THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION ON NAMING.
AND THEN FO UH, AREAS, UM, WHERE THOSE COMMITTEES WOULD, UM, WOULD FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION.
IS THERE SUPPORT FROM TOWN COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT CHANGE FROM THREE TO TWO OR MORE WITH NO NAMES AND COME BACK AT A LATER TIME OF THE RESOLUTION ON PROGRAM WORK? MS. BECKER, I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON THANK, UM, I'M NOT SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THE, THE NECESSITY OR THE REASON WHY WE WOULD WAIT TO NAME THEM.
UM, AND THEN TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING LATER.
UM, OVER THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL GOING ON SEVEN YEARS NOW, UM, WE HAVE BEEN DWINDLING DOWN THE NUMBER OF COMMITTEES AND THE WORK THAT THIS TOWN COUNCIL DOES TO RECEIVE INFORMATION, TO VET IT, TO REFINE IT, TO, TO ASSUME.
AGAIN, THAT'S A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
AND, AND I'M THINKING I'M A LITTLE BOTHERED BY THAT.
AND I THINK OUR RESIDENTS OUGHT TO BE BOTHERED BY THAT, THAT WE ARE TAKING MORE AND MORE OF THAT AWAY FROM THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
UM, IT'S THE WORK THAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.
IF WE DON'T RECEIVE IT, UNDERSTAND IT, ASK QUESTIONS, VET IT, ASK FOR REFINEMENT AND THE REST, UM, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THE NAMINGS OF THE COMMITTEE OVER THE YEARS REALLY HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE.
UM, WE CAN ADD TO THE RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT I'M NOT SURE THE, THE, THE FOCUS ON THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE AND WHY THAT SEEMS TO BE A EITHER STICKING POINT OR A CONCERN OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS, THAT IT WOULD RESOLVE SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE IN A RESOLUTION.
UM, THAT CONVERSATION I WASN'T A PART OF, I WAS AWAY DURING THAT MEETING.
UM, I WATCHED IT ONLINE, BUT STILL DIDN'T QUITE GET THE GIST OF WHAT, UM, FOLKS WE'RE TRYING TO REFER TO.
I'M HAPPY TO, TO MAKE A COMMENT, MAYOR.
UM, ACTUALLY THERE HAVE BEEN FIVE CHANGES I COULD FIND, UM, IN THE RECORDED VERSIONS OF ORDINANCES OVER THE, OVER THE YEARS, UM, STARTING IN 2008, ORDINANCE 2008 DASH OH THREE, ESTABLISHED FIVE STANDING COMMITTEES.
UM, THEN, UM, IN 2015, ORDINANCE, 2015 DASH OH FIVE ESTABLISHED SIX STANDING COMMITTEES.
AND EACH TIME COMMITTEES WERE NAMED DIFFERENTLY.
UM, THEN IN 2016, ORDINANCE 2016 DASH 33 REDUCED TO FIVE STANDING COMMITTEES.
AND IN 2019, ORDINANCE 2019 DASH 10 REDUCED TO FOUR STANDING COMMITTEES.
THEN IN 2020, ORDINANCE, 2020 DASH 32 REDUCED TO THE CURRENT THREE STANDING COMMITTEES.
AND I REMEMBER PARTICULARLY, UM, IN THE CHANGE IN 2020, THE TOWN COUNCIL WAS CONSIDERING TAKING PUBLIC SAFETY OUT OF ANY OF THE NAMES OF THE COMMITTEES.
AND I APPEARED BEFORE THE TOWN COUNCIL SAYING, I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IS PRETTY IMPORTANT.
SO THEY ACTUALLY ADDED THAT BACK, UM, TO COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
SO OVER TIME, UH, THE NAME HAS CHANGED, THE NUMBER OF COMMITTEES HAVE CHANGED, AND THE PROPOSED CHANGE INTRODUCES FLEXIBILITY AGAIN.
SO EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE NAMES OF THE COMMITTEES BECAUSE, UH, WHILE, UH, SOME OF OUR FOCUSES REMAIN THE SAME, SUCH AS PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, OUR FOCUSES DO CHANGE BASED UPON THE STRATEGIES THAT WE ADOPT.
AND, AND SO IT'S TIED TO ADOPTION OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN ORDER TO THEN NAME THE COMMITTEES AND FOR THE WORK OF THE STRAT PLAN TO THEN BE DIRECTED TOWARDS, UH, TWO OR MORE COMMITTEES BASED ON THE WORKLOAD.
SO IT WOULD NOT TAKE THE WORKLOAD AWAY FROM THE TOWN COUNCIL.
INSTEAD, IT GIVES FLEXIBILITY INSTEAD OF HAVING TO CHANGE THE CODE EVERY TIME THE STRAT PLAN CHANGES.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR HAVING THIS KIND OF FLEXIBILITY.
IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT THAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR STRAT PLAN WORKSHOP EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, AND TRYING TO, UH, DETERMINE HOW TO MANAGE THE LOAD BASED ON THE STRAT PLAN.
I DON'T RECALL THE STRAT PAD BEING A PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST.
SO IF, UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE TWO COMMITTEES.
I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO THE NAMING OF THE COMMITTEES.
THE TWO COMMITTEES MAKE SENSE TO ME.
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THAT'S WHY WE WERE HIRED BY OUR RESIDENTS TO DO THIS JOB.ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I, I'LL JUST OFFER MY, UH, SUPPORT MR. UM, I THINK IT DOES OFFER US FLEXIBILITY.
UH, THE WORDING SAYS TWO OR MORE.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING A VERY, UH, VIVID AND QUALIFIED CONVERSATION ALL DAY ON NEXT WEEK AS FAR AS OUR WORKLOAD IS CONCERNED.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE ITEMS THAT COME OUT OF THAT, THAT WE'LL BE FOCUSING ON ON YEAR ONE, YEAR TWO, AND YEAR THREE.
UM, AND I THINK WHAT'S BEFORE US GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO SHIFT, UM, IF WE NEED TO, AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF COMMITTEES AND, OR THAT MAY BE A NEW COMMITTEE THAT WE NEED TO FORM DOWN THE ROAD, WHO KNOWS? BUT I THINK THIS GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY.
WE MAY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NIMBLE ALONG THE WAY.
MR. ALFRED, ON A SECOND, THE COMMENTS THAT MR. BROWN, THIS DOES PROVIDE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
I DON'T WANNA LEAVE A MISCONCEPTION THAT, THAT THIS IS A REDUCTION IN WORKLOAD.
IT'S SIMPLY A QUESTION OF WHICH MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE TO DISCUSS WHICH SUBJECT AND COMMITTEE.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE SUBJECTS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED.
AND THIS ONE PROVISION BY, AGAIN, PROVIDING MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE ORDINANCE GIVES COUNSEL THE ABILITY BY A RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE NAMES AND THE NUMBER.
AND I'VE, I'VE PRESENTED TO, I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE DIFFERENT NAMES, BUT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I'M PUBLIC FACILITIES.
IT'S STILL REFERENCED IN THE LAND ACQUISITION MANUAL, GOVERNMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND OUR GOVERNMENT.
I MEAN, SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEE NAMES, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT YOU ALIGN YOUR COMMITTEES, UH, TO HANDLE THE WORK PROGRAM OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, BE FOCUSED AND EXECUTE THAT AS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
SO I CAN MAYOR LIST FROM, UH, ORDINANCE 2008 DASH OH THREE.
THESE WERE THE COMMITTEES AT THE TIME, INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS, PERSONNEL COMMITTEE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS COMMITTEE, PUBLIC FACILITIES COMMITTEE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT NAMES.
I CAN READ OUT THE OTHERS IF YOU WANT, BUT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEE NAMES OVER THE YEARS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, I HAD A COUPLE.
UM, IT'S DEFINITELY NOT TO REDUCE THE ALERT WORKLOAD FROM COUNCIL, BUT IT IS AN ATTEMPT TO STREAMLINE THE EFFORTS OF STAFF.
UM, WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY COMMITTEES THAT ARE MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS, IT EATS UP A LOT OF STAFF TIME WHERE THE, WHEREBY THEY NEED TO BE DOING THE WORK ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
UM, THE TIMING IT TAKES TO GO INTO ONE MEETING IS TREMENDOUS.
AND BY HAVING THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF COMMITTEES FROM A COUNCIL AND, AND EVEN BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, UH, AND COMMITTEES, UM, TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT NUMBERS AND THE THE WORK IS BEING DONE APPROPRIATELY.
SO THAT, THAT IS ONE OF THE THOUGHTS BEHIND THIS AS WELL.
I'M NOT AS, I'M NOT HUNG UP ON THE NAMING SIDE, BUT I AM, I, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS ON A COMMITTEE.
I DON'T LIKE THE QUORUM ASPECT.
UM, THAT'S WHY I'VE ONLY APPOINTED APPOINTED THREE.
SO I THINK CLEANING THIS UP GETS US TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN, WE CAN OPERATE BETTER GOING FORWARD.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE ALIGNMENT ON THE TWO OR MORE, AND AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
UH, THE NEXT ONE COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP SIZE.
UM, I'LL TRY TO SIM YEAH, KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.
AS WE'RE GOING FROM THREE DESIGNATED COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE FROM FOUR TO THREE WITH AN ALTERNATE, AND I THINK WE'VE RUN INTO HERE RECENTLY WHERE WE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE WITH NO ALTERNATE.
SO, SO IS THERE ALIGNMENT ON GOING FROM FOUR TO THREE? EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? YES.
UM, AND THEN MAINTAINING THE, THE MAYOR HAS THE ABILITY TO APPOINT BOTH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE CHAIR.
UM, TOWN COUNCIL CAN ADOPT RULES OF PROCEDURE, UM, BY RESOLUTION.
AND THEN THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER DECISION POINT IS ABOUT HOW ACTION ITEMS ARE HANDLED AT COMMITTEE AND THEN ADVANCING TO TOWN COUNCIL UNDER THE CURRENT DRAFT.
IT REQUIRES THAT ACTION, THAT ITEMS THAT GO TO COMMITTEE, UM, THAT REQUIRE DECISION BY THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL, THAT THOSE ITEMS ADVANCE TO TOWN COUNCIL REGARDLESS OF COMMITTEE ACTION.
SO WHETHER THE COMMITTEE APPROVES IT, DISAPPROVES IT, OR DOES OR DOESN'T TAKE ACTION, IT CAN BE, IT WILL BE PLACED ON A TOWN COUNCIL, UH, COMMITTEE OR TOWN COUNCIL AGENDA FOR FINAL ACTION, MR. ALFORD, UM, YOU'VE GOT THREE CHOICES NOW THAT ARE LISTED THERE, BUT AS A CURRENT PRACTICAL MATTER, THERE'S A FOURTH,
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AND THAT IS RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.AND THE COMMITTEES THAT MET YESTERDAY HAD A FEW OF THOSE.
THERE'S ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT THAT HAS THAT, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT'S, UH, A CHOICE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
IT IS ACTION IF IT'S AN APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO, I DO WANNA SAY THAT COMMITTEE HAS THE ABILITY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO ASK FOR MORE INFORMATION TO GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A DECISION.
BUT IF THERE'S FAILURE TO ACT OR REACH A, AN, A CONSENSUS WITHOUT REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION, THEN THAT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THEIR FULL DELIBERATION.
COUNCILMAN ALFRED, MS. DONNER? YES.
UH, I CONCUR, UH, WITH MR. ALFRED.
UH, IN REGARDS TO HAVING THAT FOURTH OPTION, UH, THE COMMITTEE IS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
AGAIN, THE FULL COUNSEL HAS A LEGISLATIVE RESPONSIBILITY AND THEN CAN ACCEPT, DENY OR MAKE CHANGES BASED OFF THAT RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH THAT THOUGHT.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS WHAT TO DO WITH MODIFICATIONS.
AND I THINK THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH THE LAST TOPIC YESTERDAY PROVIDES A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, UM, WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MAKE THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE ORDINANCES OR THE RESOLUTION, SOMETIMES THEY'RE REALLY SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A WORD CHANGE, IT'S A SENTENCE.
UM, IT'S SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND.
THERE'S NO CONNECTION TO OTHER PARTS OF THE, THE POLICY, UH, ET CETERA, THAT THAT'S EASY TO DO.
BUT YESTERDAY, UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF REQUESTED CHANGES AND RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THAT CAME OUT OF THAT LAST TOPIC TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, SOME SIMPLE THINGS, ADDING SOME PICTURES, ET CETERA, MORE CLARIFICATION, BUT ALSO SOME POLICY RELATED QUESTIONS.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN THAT REQUEST IS MADE, UM, AND IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS DECIDED ON, LIKE YOU HAVE, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE, IT WAS MORE OF A WORK ITEM TO, UH, TOWN STAFF.
AND THE PROCESS THAT WAS VOTED ON YESTERDAY WAS THEN TO BRING ALL THAT WORK TO TOWN COUNCIL.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS, WHEN THERE IS WORK THAT CONTINUES TO NEED TO BE DONE, AND THAT WORK IS COMPLETED, WHERE DOES IT FALL TO NEXT IN THE PROCESS? SHOULD IT GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW SINCE THEY WERE THE ONES THAT ASKED FOR THOSE CHANGES? OR SHOULD IT GO TO THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL? SO I THINK THAT'S, UH, AN ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST APPROACH IS.
AND IF I CAN WEIGH IN, AND I KNOW WE HAVE CURTIS OVER THERE.
SO HERE, HERE, HERE IS MY PROFESSIONAL TAKE ON THAT.
IF THE COMMITTEE IS A, IS CONSIDERING AN ACTION, AND THEY CAN ARTICULATE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WANT WHEN IT ADVANCES TO COUNCIL AND STAFF CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, UH, CLEARLY, UM, AND SHOW IT TO TOWN COUNCIL THAT WHAT THE COMMITTEES ASKED FOR IS IN THERE, THEN I THINK IT COULD COME FORWARD DIRECTLY TO TOWN COUNCIL WITHOUT GOING BACK TO COMMITTEE.
UM, I THINK IF, IF, IF THERE'S NOT CLEAR DIRECTION OR IF THERE IS MORE INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED THAT WOULD HELP THE COMMITTEE REACH A DECISION, THEN I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ASKED AND BROUGHT BACK TO COMMITTEE UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO ADVANCE IT.
SO, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT AS AN OPTION ON YOUR LIST OF OPTIONS.
AND MAYBE CURTIS CAN HELP ME OUT, BUT IF, IF WE'RE NOT READY, SO THESE ARE THREE AC ACTION ITEMS, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE READY TO MAKE ACTION AT A COMMITTEE, YOU'RE GONNA ADVANCE IT FOR APPROVAL WITH OR WITHOUT CONDITIONS, YOU'RE GONNA DISAPPROVE IT OR YOU'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION.
AND YOU NEED, AND THE COMP NEEDS TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR FUNNEL, UH, CONSIDERATION.
IF THE COMMITTEE IS NOT READY TO ADVANCE BECAUSE THEY NEED MORE INFORMATION, THEY NEED TO MAKE THAT, THAT CLEAR TO STAFF OR WHOMEVER'S BEFORE THEM, I NEED MORE INFORMATION OR THIS IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE, PLEASE BRING, BRING IT BACK.
AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEND IT BACK TO STAFF, RIGHT? SO IT IT COMES OUT OF COMMITTEE, UM, AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TOO MANY QUESTIONS AND WE JUST NEED TO SEND IT RIGHT BACK TO STAFF, THEN IT COMES BACK TO COMMITTEE TO US.
THAT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD EXPECT.
BUT CURTIS, IF YOU WANNA CHIME IN ON THAT, UM, I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH SEAN ON ONE THING.
I THINK THAT WHEN COUNSEL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PRESENTED
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WITH A POLICY ITEM AT COMMITTEE, WHATEVER IT IS, UM, IF THE COMMITTEE SAYS, WE, AS THE COMMITTEE VOTE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGES ONE, TWO, AND THREE, THEN I THINK WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN IS, IS THAT THE MATTER COMES FORWARD TO COUNSEL WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION AND COUNSEL HAS TO DECIDE IF IT AGREES WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES AND THEN TELL STAFF TO DO THAT IF IT DOES.ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS, IS THAT, AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE IS A COMMITTEE OF THREE AND IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT THE POLICY QUESTION IS FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL MIGHT LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS.
AND I THINK THAT COUNSEL AS A WHOLE, UM, AS THE, AS THE BODY VESTED WITH THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE DECISIONS, OUGHT TO SEE BOTH AND DECIDE WHICH PATH IT WISHES TO TAKE.
SO, MR. HANG, HANG ON, HANG ON ONE SECOND, MR. MAYOR, I'M ASK YOU A QUESTION.
UM, MISS HUNTER'S POINT, I THINK, SEAN, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING, THE, THE COMMITTEE CAN TAKE ALL KIND OF ACTION AND THEY CAN TAKE ACTION TO TELL US TO DO MORE WORK TO BRING THEM BACK A DIFFERENT OR BETTER PRODUCT.
AND SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE THIS DESCRIPTIVE, RIGHT? I THINK SOME OF IT'S GOVERNED BY ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND JUST GOVERNANCE AT A COMMITTEE OR BOARD LEVEL.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BE THAT DESCRIPTIVE, IT DOESN'T HURT TO SET THIS IN PLACE ONCE AND FOR ALL.
WHAT ALL THE COMMITTEE TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT AND SOME OF YOUR CONVERSATIONS TO ALL THE COMMITTEE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE DIRECTION, AND IT IS ALL ACTION ACTION.
WHETHER IT'S COMING TO TOWN COUNCIL OR ACTION, WHETHER IT'S GO BACK TO US, UH, FOR A, A, A BETTER SOLUTION OR A DIFFERENT SOLUTION, IT'S STILL ACTION.
MR. DESMOND, WE HAVE AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT THAT ARE VERBATIM THAT COME OUTTA COMMITTEE, NOT NECESSARILY STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS NEXT TIME UP COMMITTEE DOESN'T HAVE THE SAY SO ON THAT AGENDA ITEM THAT'S ON THE, THAT'S ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S FROM THE STAFF THAT LEAPS OVER THE COMMITTEE TO COUNSEL, RIGHT OR WRONG? IS THAT WHAT I HEAR? IS THAT MY RIGHT OR WRONG? WHAT, WHAT I HAVE HISTORICALLY BROUGHT WHEN SOMETHING'S GONE THROUGH COMMITTEE IS THE COMMITTEE SUPPORTED ACTION.
YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, I, I AM.
UM, IT, IT, SO IT, IT'S A, IT'S THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, WHICH HAS TO GO THROUGH STAFF BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL.
SO IT DOESN'T GO BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR VETTING AGAIN, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, BUT IT HAS THE, IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY AT COUNCIL TO BE SENT BACK TO STAFF AND THEN BACK THROUGH COMMITTEE AGAIN.
FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, PARKING MM-HMM
AND IT CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE AND IT'S PUT ON THE AGENDA VERBATIM OUT OF COMMITTEE.
IT WASN'T NECESSARILY WHAT STAFF PRESENTED, IT'S WHAT CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING REGARDLESS OF WHAT COMMITTEE SAYS, STAFF IS GONNA T TO COUNCIL, RIGHT.
WITH WITH, WITH WHAT YOU, AM I WRONG WITH, WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, WITH WHAT HAS COME OUT OF COMMITTEE? CORRECT.
CAN I, CAN I JUMP IN? HANG ON.
SO IT'S, IT IS WITH WHAT HAS COME OUT OF COMMITTEE, THAT STAFF IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WATCHED THE MEETING YESTERDAY AND, AND MR. LEININGER TOOK LOTS OF NOTES, WENT OVER THOSE NOTES AT THE END OF THE ITEMS THAT Y'ALL WANTED INCLUDED.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION TO COUNSEL.
BUT THAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE.
SO I I I'M TRYING TO SUM IT UP.
SO, UH, STAFF GENERATES A REPORT FOR COMMITTEE TO TRY TO INFORM, ADDRESS, RESOLVE SOMETHING THAT'S BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, THE WHATEVER'S INCLUDED IN THERE IS USED BY THE COMMITTEE TO ULTIMATELY EITHER SUPPORT WHAT STAFF'S DRAFTED, SUPPORT IT WITH SOME REVISIONS, OR, OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION IS THEN WHAT'S BROUGHT FORWARD TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE YOU'VE ASKED THE COMMITTEES TO VET IT AND BRING FORWARD
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A POSITION WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL TO APPROVE, USUALLY APPROVE, UH, OR, OR DENY, UH, AN ACTION.WHEN THE ITEM COMES FORWARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL, THEY SHOULD REVIEW THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING.
STAFF SHOULD BE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE CHAIR SHOULD BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS THAT COMMITTEE AND IF THERE IS CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAD RECOMMENDED.
AND THIS IS THE POINT I THINK THAT CURTIS IS TRYING TO MAKE THINK, I THINK I'VE, I THINK I'VE GOT A, A SOLUTION.
I'M GONNA STEAL MRS. BECKER'S THUNDER ON THIS.
JUST MIGHT, I'LL WAIT FOR
UM, THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ON IT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT MEETS THE, THE, THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS OR NOT, UM, WHERE COUNCIL STANDS ON IT.
BUT THAT IS, WE USED TO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE BEFORE WE VOTED ON IT.
UM, AND THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO AVERT ANY ISSUES THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, MS. BECKER.
WELL, THAT WAS PART OF IT, THANK YOU.
SO TRADITIONALLY, AND WE HAVE HAVE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, DAVID AMES IN THE, UM, AUDIENCE TONIGHT.
SO HE'S FAMILIAR WITH THIS AS WELL.
TRADITIONALLY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THE COMMITTEE HAS RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE STAFF AND WE HAVE, UM, VETTED IT, DISCUSSED IT, VETTED IT, PERHAPS THOUGHT IT WAS FINE OFF THE, AND THEN MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO GO.
BUT MOST OFTEN, AND I CAN THINK OF EASILY A, A DOZEN TIMES WHEN THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, ADDITIONAL DIRECTION THAT NEEDED TO SEND IT BACK FROM COMMITTEE TO THE STAFF, VERY SIMILAR TO SHAUNA AS TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
THIS IN FACT HAPPENS YESTERDAY, BE THAT AS A MAY, IT DIDN'T GO BACK TO STAFF.
WHEN IT GOES BACK TO STAFF, TRADITIONALLY IT, ALL OF THOSE ISSUES GET RESOLVED.
NEW INFORMATION COMES FORWARD FOR THE COMMITTEE TO HEAR, TO VET AND TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAS ANSWERED ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS WITH THE PARTICULAR ITEM IN FRONT OF US.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, IF SO, WE RECOMMEND IT TO TOWN COUNCIL, USUALLY AS YOU SAID, SEAN, FOR APPROVAL.
UM, AND THEN FROM THAT POINT, TRADITIONALLY, SEAN OR WHOMEVER COMES BEFORE THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL HAS COME BEFORE THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL AND GIVEN US A BRIEF AS TO WHAT HAPPENED AND ALL OF THE ISSUES BEHIND IT AND WHAT'S PRESENTED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL AT THAT POINT FOR CONSIDERATION.
HOWEVER, A VOTE IS NOT TAKEN BECAUSE TO COUNCILWOMAN TANNER'S POINT, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION IN.
IF YOU WEREN'T PART OF THAT COMMITTEE DISCUSSION, ABSORB IT AND TO DETERMINE FOR YOURSELF HOW IT RELATES, CONNECTS TO OTHER ISSUES, UM, AND THEN BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SUGGEST TO, UM, THE TOWN STAFF, YES, I'M READY TO VOTE YES OR NO, OR I AS NON COMMITTEE MEMBER HAVE A QUESTION THAT'S A BIT TIME CONSUMING, I GET IT.
BUT WE'RE CREATING POLICIES THAT IMPACT THIS ISLAND LONG TERM, RIGHT? AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT SUCCESSFULLY AND WITHOUT THE TYPE OF REPERCUSSIONS AND BAD EFFECTS LATER, THAT'S THE TYPE OF TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND THOUGHTFUL ANALYSIS THAT HAS TO GO INTO THE ITEM.
SO MY SUGGESTION IS THAT HAMSTRING US IN INTO THESE THREE TYPE OF, UM, ACTIONS IS NOT IN THE TOWN'S BEST INTEREST.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE WORKED VERY WELL IN THE PAST IN THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE, AND PERHAPS I WAS AHEAD OF MYSELF WHEN I SPOKE PREVIOUSLY.
THIS WORK NEEDS TO COME THROUGH AND WE AS ELECTED OFFICIAL NEED TO DO OUR JOB.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF HAS BROUGHT SOMETHING THAT WE UNDERSTAND.
WE HAVE QUESTIONS, IF WE HAVE THOUGHTS, IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL SUBTRACTIONS THAT WE THEN ASK THEM TO REVISE AND RETURN.
AND WHEN IT'S READY FOR PRIME TIME, COME GIVE US A BRIEFING AS A FULL TOWN COUNCIL.
AND THEN AT SOME TIME AFTER THAT, WE CAN, AS A FULL TOWN COUNCIL ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR VOTE ON IT.
ANYTHING THAT SHORTENS OR TAKES AWAY FROM THAT PROCESS IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN AS A DISSERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS.
AND LATER ON, I'LL PROMISE THAT THE SEVEN OF US, IF IT'S THE SEVEN OF US OR SOME COMBINATION LATER, IS GONNA HAVE TO APOLOGIZE AS OTHERS HAVE HAD TO DO FROM THIS, THAT DUS IN THE PAST.
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TIME, DO THE WORK, BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT, AND LET'S, LET'S, UM, BE RESPONSIBLE IN OUR ACTIONS.SO THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, IF IT'S NOW OR WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE, UM, TO INCLUDE IN THIS.
HANG ON ONE SECOND, MR. ALFRED.
BUT WHEN WE'RE READY, UM, A NUMBER OF GOOD POINTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND IT, IT IS SOMEWHAT COMPLICATED.
MY VIEW OF IS COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE SUFFICIENT OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND AND DIGEST AND REFLECT.
I DON'T THINK IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT IT BE DONE AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL COMMITTEE CAN DO WHAT IT, WHAT THE THREE MEMBERS WHO MAKE UP THAT COMMITTEE FIND AND SEE.
UH, BUT I AM MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN HAVING A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL REFLECT ON IT.
AND IF FOUR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH INADEQUATE OR IN INFORMATION FROM STAFF COUNCIL AT THAT ON FIRST READING CAN SAY, LET'S GO BACK TO STAFF AND SOMETHING DIFFERENT COMES BACK THE NEXT TIME.
BUT WHAT I, WHAT I PREFER TO SEE IS, IS IF THERE IS TO BE A, UM, RETURNING ITEMS TO COMMITTEE, UH, TO STAFF, EXCUSE ME, IT'D BE DONE BY A MAJORITY OF COUNCIL AT THE CO AND THAT'S ONLY AT A COUNCIL MEETING, MR. BROWN? UH, YES.
UM, IF MR. COLTRANE COULD RESPOND TO, UM, ONE OF THE MAYOR'S QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT MR. ALFRED JUST SPOKE TO, IF AN ITEM DOES MAKE IT WAY THROUGH COMMITTEE TO FULL COUNSEL AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, QUESTIONS, OR WORK TO BE DONE, CAN IT BE SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE VIA WHAT'S BEING SUGGESTED AT THE MOMENT? YES, THE COUNCIL CAN DO THAT.
UM, SO MR. MAYOR, I, I AGREE WITH, UH, MOST OF WHAT I'VE HEARD HERE.
UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ITEMS THAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, ARE EASY
THE COMMITTEES ARE MADE UP OF THREE INTENTIONALLY, THREE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT ARE TO VET ITEMS. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE DECISION HAS TO BE MADE BY FULL COUNSEL.
SO AS I VIEW WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY BOXING OURSELVES IN, BUT INSTEAD WE'RE PUTTING STRUCTURE TO OUR ORGANIZATION SO THAT THINGS CAN GET THE COUNCIL AND IF WE LIKE IT, MOVE AHEAD.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT ADDS MORE PRESSURE TO STAFF.
UH, PERSONALLY, I THINK IT'S BETTER FOR STAFF BECAUSE NOW THERE'S NO CONFUSION ABOUT THE DIRECTION THAT WE ARE BEING, THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM AS FAR AS THE FINAL PRODUCT IS CONCERNED.
SO, UM, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS FOR IT, MR. MAYOR.
UH, I THINK THIS STREAMLINES US.
I'M, I'M READY TO SUPPORT IT AS IS.
PARTICULARLY IF WE HAVE THAT OPTION TO SEND IT BACK IF WE NEED TO.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO, UH, VARIOUS VIEWS OF MY COLLEAGUES AND, AND WRESTLING WITH WHAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO.
UM, AND, AND I THINK ONE OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION IS THAT SOME OF THESE ITEMS HAVE COME THROUGH A TOWN COUNCIL WORKSHOP, UM, SUCH AS THE PRIORITY AMENDMENTS OF THE LMO.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD A WORKSHOP ON 'EM.
NOW I'LL BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT SOMETIMES I HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UH, LATER ON.
UM, I, I I'LL, IT JUST HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T THINK OF AN IDEA UNTIL LATER, BUT I, I DO LIKE THE PROCESS SUGGESTED BY MR. ALFRED AND, AND JOINED IN BY MR. BROWN.
AND THAT IS, UM, IF YOU HAVE A THREE MEMBER COMMITTEE AND SAY ALL THREE AGREE WITH CERTAIN CHANGES TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THEN IT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL, BEFORE STAFF SPENDS MORE TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANT.
IT'S ALSO INCUMBENT ON US, UM, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND AS FULL COUNCIL TO BE CLEAR IN OUR DIRECTION TO STAFF.
UM, AND FOR THE MAYOR OR THE CHAIR IS APPROPRIATE TO HELP, UH, DIRECT THOSE DIRECTIONS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GIVE VERY VAGUE DIRECTION AND THE, AND THE STAFF HAS TO GO BACK AND TRY TO SORT IT OUT.
SO, UH, THAT'S NOT TO BE PUT IN A CODE, BUT THAT'S TO BE PART OF OUR OPERATION, IS WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON WHAT KIND OF CHANGES WE'RE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTING.
UM, SO I DO, UH, PREFER FOR IT TO MOVE THROUGH THE COMMITTEE, COME TO THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL, DECIDE IF A MAJORITY OF THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL LIKES THOSE CHANGES.
AND IF THERE'S STILL SOME QUESTIONS OR MORE REVISIONS NEED TO BE MADE, IT COULD BE SENT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.
YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I, I KIND OF AGREE WITH WHAT SHE'S SAYING HERE, BUT I SUGGEST THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING A PRESENTATION TO A NON-VOTING FULL COUNCIL, IT'S PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING.
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'CAUSE WE CAN GET ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED BETWEEN FIRST, SECOND READING MS. BECKER.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE IN GOVERNMENT THIS TYPE OF, UM, SITUATION COMES UP, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM IN REGULAR ORDER TO ME.
I THEN I ALSO THINK THE IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS THAT'S BEING MISSED IS THAT AT THE COUNT, AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED, THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED IS A FIRST STEP TO GETTING THAT DONE.
OTHERWISE, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY INSTANCES IN THE RECENT PAST WHERE WE ARE DELIVERED SOMETHING THAT HASN'T GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THAT PERHAPS CAME OUT OF A WORKSHOP, WHICH IS NOT AN IDEAL SITUATION TO HAVE THE GIVE AND TAKE AND THE PUSHBACK AND THE ASK FOR AND TRADITIONAL INFORMATION, ET CETERA, AND THEN DELIVER TO US.
AND THEN WE SPEND AN HOUR, AN HOUR AND A HALF WITH ALL OF THAT HAPPENING HERE, RATHER THAN COMING BEFORE US.
UM, IN A WAY WHERE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THE BRIEFING, WE KNOW THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS VETTED THE QUESTIONS, IT GOES BACK WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS IF NECESSARY, OR IT MOVES ON FOR THE FIRST READING IN A VOTE.
THERE IS NOTHING GOOD THAT COMES FROM RUSHING ANYTHING THROUGH.
AND WHEN YOU TAKE THE TIME TO DO THIS IN A THOUGHTFUL, METHODICAL WAY, AS WE HAVE DONE IN THIS TOWN, OR AS LONG AS I'VE KNOWN BOTH ON COUNCIL AND PREVIOUSLY, UM, WE ARE IN BETTER STEAD THAN SITTING HERE AND TRYING TO RUSH THINGS THROUGH, MAKE A DECISION.
IF I'M SITTING HERE WITH THE FULL COUNSEL AND I'VE GOT X, Y, AND Z WANNA QUESTIONS I WANNA HAVE ANSWERED.
BUT THERE, THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO VOTE YES.
MY QUESTIONS, MY CONCERNS NEVER GET ANSWERED.
AND THAT COULD HAPPEN AND SHOULD HAPPEN AND HAS ALWAYS HAPPENED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.
SO I THINK THAT WHEN THE DISCUSSION, AND I'M LISTENING CAREFULLY TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE, BUT YOU'RE MISSING A CRITICAL STEP.
SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M HEARING,
SO I BROKE IT DOWN INTO TWO COMPONENTS.
SO THE FIRST COMPONENT WAS SUPPORT FOR MR. ALFRED'S, UM, SUGGESTION OF HAVING A FOURTH CATEGORY, THE, FOR THE ITEM TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL WITH RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
ARE WE STILL, UH, YOU KNOW, AND BASED ON SOME OF THE STUFF I HEARD, I COULDN'T TELL IF YOU WERE CHANGING YOUR MIND ON THAT PIECE OR NOT.
IT SEEMED LIKE WE HAD SOME ALIGNMENT THERE, SO WE STILL HAVE ALIGNMENT THERE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
AND SO NOW IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION ABOUT IF THERE'S MORE.
SO WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATION AND CHANGES, THEY, WHAT I HEAR PEOPLE SAYING IS THEY WANT IT TO GO TO TOWN COUNCIL.
NOW, IS THAT GOING TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH THE WORK BEING DONE?
IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE WORK.
AFTER RECOMMENDATION OF COMMITTEE, AFTER THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMITTEE, THE STAFF GOES BACK, UH, BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, THEY DO THEIR BEST JOB OF LAYING, LAYING ALL THAT OUT.
AND THEN THAT COMES TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION, FIRST READING.
AND WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS THAT IF THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE, IT CAN GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE OR IT CAN JUST COME BACK TO TOWN COUNCIL.
IT WOULD, I'M JUST TRYING TO LAY THIS ALL OUT SO THAT, 'CAUSE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF STUFF.
I, I SEE MR. ORLANDO'S MIC IS LIT UP OVER THERE.
SO I I THINK HE'S GOT A COMMENT ON THAT.
IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF EVERYTHING CAME TO COUNCIL AT FIRST READING AND YOU COULD DECIDE WHETHER YOU, YOU VOTED AT FIRST READING OR GAVE US SOME MORE, UH, BETTER DIRECTION AND SENT US BACK TO COMMITTEE TO BRING IT BACK FOR FIRST AGAIN.
BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE APPROVE BY RESOLUTION.
SO IT'S THAT, IT'S THAT SKIP AND ROW PATTERN THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT TEMPO THAT I'M LOOKING FOR TO, IS THIS COMING AS A PRESENTATION? 'CAUSE IT'S A RESOLUTION, OR IS THIS COMING AS FIRST READING? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TIME BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND.
WE JUST NEED TO FIND SOME CONSISTENCY.
SAY, GIVE YOURSELF A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.
THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHEN WE ADOPT SOME THINGS THAT COME UP AND THEY'RE SPOT ON.
MR. BROWN SAID, SOME ARE EASY, SOME ARE HARD.
SO I THINK ADDING THE FOURTH ONE, WE'RE TRACKING THAT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING, YOU KNOW, YOU SIT UP HERE A COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE THREE MEMBERS OF COMMITTEE, HOWEVER MANY OF YOU IN THE ROOM, AND SOMEONE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION AND SAYS, HEY, THIS IS GREAT.
LET'S, LET'S GO AND WE BRING IT TO TOWN COUNCIL.
OR WE BRING IT TO TOWN COUNCIL AND WE'RE GONNA STAND HERE ON A TUESDAY AT THREE 30 AND GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION THAT 40 IS THE RIGHT NUMBER, OR WHATEVER AMENDMENT, WHETHER IT'S A RESOLUTION POLICY OR TWO READINGS, ORDINANCE.
ARE WE GIVING YOU A PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU VOTE, OR ARE WE PUTTING IT ON
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FOR FIRST READING RESOLUTION? I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE, WE'RE STUCK THERE.IN RESPONSE TO MS. TURNER'S QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS, NOT THE, UH, CAN WE ADD CONDITIONS? YES.
THE SECOND PART IS, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR FIRST READING, I AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE THE PRESENTATION IS USUALLY A PART OF THE FIRST READING.
THEN THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS THREE DECISIONS BASED ON PROCESS.
UM, EITHER GO AHEAD AND TAKE ACTION AS ONE OF 'EM, MAYBE THERE'S FOUR OF THEM, OR, UM, CAN SEND IT BACK TO STAFF TO MAKE SOME CHANGES THEY'RE AGREED TO BY THE MAJORITY, AND THEN COME BACK IF IT'S AN ORDINANCE SECOND READING WITH THOSE CHANGES OR SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.
SO THERE'S VARIOUS OPTIONS AT THAT POINT.
UM, I HEARD, UM, SORRY, WITH PERMISSION ALL CLEAR, ALL CLEAR
WHAT I HEARD FROM FROM SEAN EARLIER WAS THAT INDEED, AND I THINK I'VE HEARD FROM OTHERS THAT WHEN THERE ARE QUESTIONS COMING OUT OF COMMITTEE, THAT IT SHOULD GO BACK TO STAFF FOR STAFF TO REVIEW THOSE QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE THE ANSWERS SO THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN FULLY VET THAT THAT WORK IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE THOUGHTS WERE OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M NOT SURE OTHERWISE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH ALL OF THIS, AND THEN THE TIMEFRAME TO GET, RECEIVE THAT BRIEFING AND NOT ON FIRST, NOT ON THE FIRST READING.
BECAUSE IF YOU TRULY WANT TO BE ABLE TO AS A COUNCIL, THEN AS THE ANOTHER STEP, SEND IT BACK.
IF OTHER QUESTIONS ARISE, YOU, YOU COULD DO THAT AFTER FIRST READING, I GUESS.
BUT WHY NOT DO IT IN A MORE EFFICIENT MANNER, RIGHT? UM, YES.
I I I DO BELIEVE IT GIVES THE COMMITTEE A LITTLE TEETH, AND THERE MAY BE TIMES, I MEAN, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT VERY RARE WOULD COMMITTEES SEND IT BACK TO STAFF.
BUT IF IT IS IN NEED, YOU'RE REALLY GONNA SAVE US A LOT OF TIME.
THERE'S NO NEED TO BRING IT TO FULL COUNCIL.
IF TWO OR OUT OF THREE OR THREE OUT OF THREE PEOPLE SEE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND TO TAKE THAT ABILITY AWAY FROM A, A COMMITTEE, UH, THEN WHAT'S THE USE OF THE COMMITTEE REALLY? I MEAN, ALL WE'RE GONNA DO IS GET, YOU HAVE THREE MEMBERS THAT DISAGREE GETS TO COUNCIL, AND IT JUST TAKES ONE MORE VOTE TO SEND IT BACK.
SO WHY NOT ALLOW THAT COMMITTEE TO, TO GAIN MORE INFORMATION BEFORE IT GETS TO FULL COUNSEL AND IT'LL SAVE FULL COUNSEL A LOT OF TIME AND, AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL GET, UH, INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER FOUR, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE TO HELP THAT DECISION BEFORE IT GETS BACK TO, TO, TO COUNT, UH, COMMITTEE ANYWAY.
I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A TIME SAVER.
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IF WE'RE READY FOR THAT.
I, I JUST, IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY ONE THING AND THEN, BECAUSE I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL THAT WE ARE, I DON'T WANT IT TO JUST BE A ONE AND DONE.
WE COME TO COMMITTEE, WE THINK WE GOT IT RIGHT.
WE MAY NOT HAVE IT RIGHT AT ALL, AND WE NEED TO DO MORE WORK AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL.
SO I THINK THE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ASK FOR MORE INFORMATION WITH CLARITY ON WHAT'S NEEDED TO REACH A DECISION.
THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THIS ITEM C ONE, WHEN THE COMMITTEE'S READY TO CONSIDER THE ITEM AND TAKE A VOTE ON IT, THEN THEY HAVE THE OPTIONS TO APPROVE, APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS OR MODIFICATIONS, DENY OR NOT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
BUT THEN IT ADVANCES TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL AT THAT POINT CAN SAY, WE'RE READY TO ACT, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION, AND THEY CAN REFER IT BACK TO STAFF OR COMMITTEE, WHATEVER.
WE COME BACK WITH A REVISED FIRST RATING IF NEEDED, AND GO BACK TO COMMITTEE.
I'D RATHER HANDLE THAT AT COMMITTEE THAN TRY TO WORK IT.
SO YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ADDING A, AN, AN ADDITIONAL ITEM TO TABLE IT BASICALLY TO TABLE IT TO, TO STAFF FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WITH NO VOTE.
NOT, NOT ON A, ON OFFICIAL ACTION AND VOTE.
BUT YES, WE MAKE A MOTION TO REFER THIS BACK TO STAFF BECAUSE WE NEED INFORMATION ON WHATEVER PARKING, PARKING, VOLUME, AND OCCUPANCY.
AND, AND IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP MOVING THE ACTION AHEAD, WE SHOULD PUT A DATE ON THAT SO THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY.
SO SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT IT HAS TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR WHATEVER THE RIGHT ANSWER IS MM-HMM
SO THAT IT'S NOT SITTING OUT THERE INDEFINITELY.
AND I KNOW THAT COMMITTEE'S IN THE PASS, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS A VEHICLE THAT CAN BE USED TO STALL ITEMS INDEFINITELY, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.
MAYOR, I GO BACK TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OPINION AND RECOMMENDATION, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, ADDING THE APPROVAL WITH
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CONDITIONS, UM, AND THE ABILITY TO REFER IT BACK TO COMMITTEE THAT I, WITH DUE RESPECT, MR. COLLIN, YOUR SUGGESTION IS WAY TOO CONFUSING TO ME.WE'VE DONE IT IN THIS TOWN FOR YEARS EXACTLY LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK, THINK WE'VE, AND IN THE CASE, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION, IF I MAY, SEAN, ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? I AM.
AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR MOTION WITH PERMISSION.
UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVE, UM, AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR TWO OR MORE COUNCIL, UM, COMMITTEES TO BE APPOINTED AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION WITH THREE MEMBERS AND ONE ALTERNATE.
AND THAT THOSE COMMITTEES ARE AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM THE TOWN STAFF AND TO VET IT, AND IF NECESSARY, SEND IT BACK TO THE TOWN STAFF FOR CONTINUED WORK, AND THEN TO RECEIVE THAT CONTINUED WORK AT A MEETING.
SO TABLE ESSENTIALLY IS THE LANGUAGE I HEARD.
AND THEN TO RECEIVE THAT ME, UM, INFORMATION WITHIN A TIME PERIOD, REASONABLE TIME PERIOD OF 30 DAYS, 45 DAYS.
UM, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, JUNCTURE, THE, THE COMMITTEE WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL, UM, OR NO RECOMMENDATION.
AND THAT AT THAT POINT, THE TOWN COUNCIL WOULD BE BRIEFED, CONTINUE THE PROCESS.
IF THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, THEN TAKE A VOTE ON A FIRST READING OF AN, THE ORDINANCE.
WE GOT A MOTION OR, OR UPDATE WITH APPROVE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
OR APPROVE WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR THE, FOR THE THINGS.
AND, AND PERHAPS I MISSPOKE TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION AND TO LEAVE THE FIRST READING FOR THE FOLLOWING AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION WHEN HE PUTS IT ON THE AGENDA.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY, I'M SORRY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT MOTION AGAIN.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I INCLUDED EVERYTHING.
UM, WE CAN'T GO BACK, BACK TO THE VIDEO TAPE.
UM, NO, IF YOU COULD REPEAT IT, PLEASE, FOR THE RECORD.
IT WAS A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH AND I, I, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONS.
YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT FOR YOU, PLEASE.
AND HOPEFULLY I CAN, UM, SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL, UM, APPROVE AN ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHES TWO OR MORE COMMITTEES AT THE MAYOR'S DISCRETION WITH THREE MEMBERS AND ONE ALTERNATE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR, WITH THE CHAIR BEING APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR.
ALL, UM, AND ESTABLISHES A CLEAR PROCESS FOR HOW COMMITTEES CONDUCT BUSINESS, INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, DENY OR OFFER NO RECOMMENDATION TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE AN OPTION, TWO ADDITIONAL OPTIONS, ONE, TO SEND BACK TO STAFF FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS, UM, TO BE ANSWERED AND, UH, WORK TO BE DONE, OR TO MOVE TO TOWN COUNCIL, UM, WITH CONDITIONS.
AND I, AND IF IT WERE TO MOVE, I'M SORRY, KIM.
IF IT WERE TO MOVE BACK TO STAFF FOR THOSE, THAT ADDITIONAL WORK, THAT 30 TO 45 DAYS, IT'D BE ENTED TO THE C COMMITTEE AT THAT POINT, THE COMMITTEE WOULD RECEIVE IT AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO SEND FORWARD TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH APPROVAL OR DENIAL OR NO RECOMMENDATION OR WITH CONDITIONS, APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.
THE TOWN COUNCIL WOULD THEN RECEIVE A BRIEFING.
THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND IF NO ADDITIONAL WORK IS TO BE DONE, THE MAYOR CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR A FIRST READING AT HIS DISCRETION AS THAT CLEAR.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL MEETING WITHOUT A VOTE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? A BRIEF, THE BRIEFING, AND THEREBY IT ALLOWS, CAN WE GET A SECOND
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BEFORE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AGAIN, JUST SO THAT WE STAY IN SOME PROPER YEAH.SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, STEVE, THE, THE ADDITIONAL MEETING TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION THERE, THEREIN LIES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL TO SAY, OH, BUT I WOULD'VE ADDED X, Y, OR Z AS A QUESTION OR A CONCERN FOR STAFF TO ADDRESS.
AND, AND AGAIN, LIKE WE TALKED A MOMENT AGO, WOULDN'T THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING ANYWAY? IT CAN.
BUT I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT PROCESS TIME THAT I'VE HEARD, I THINK IT, I THINK WHAT IT DOES IS IT, IT, IT, IT KNOCKS DOWN SO MUCH STAFF TIME.
IT'LL KNOCK DOWN COUNCIL TIME AND IT, AND YOU GET THE SAME, YOU GET THE SAME RESULT.
SO IS THAT SATISFY YOU? UM, I AM OKAY WITH HAVING IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE, IF THE COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED CHANGES, IT'LL GO BACK TO STAFF.
THEY'LL MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
I'M OKAY WITH THE BRIEFING AND A VOTE AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE WE CAN ALWAYS DECIDE TO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE OR APPROVE IT OR APPROVE IT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
I'D LIKE TO JUST CHANGE THAT, CHANGE THAT WORDING FROM A BRIEFING TO A PRESENTATION PRESENTATION.
UM, TO, TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S POINT THOUGH, THIS IS WITH REGARD TO ORDINANCES, WHERE THERE IS A FIRST AND A SECOND VOTE AND NOT A RESOLUTION WHERE THERE'S ONLY ONE VOTE.
SO HOW DO WE ACCOMMODATE THOSE SITUATIONS IF WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION? YOU CAN ALWAYS REMAND IT BACK TO, I, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE A SEVEN OH VOTE, EVEN THOUGH WE TRY THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO GET THERE.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE MANY OF THOSE, BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE.
UM, THERE'S ONE MORE MEETING WORTH NOT TAKING THAT EXTRA STEP.
NO, I'M JUST, IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION.
UH, MAYOR, UH, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS AN ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.
UM, THE MOTION THAT I HEARD HAS SO MUCH LANGUAGE IN IT.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO DISCERN WHAT WE'RE ACTING ON.
UM, AND I'M LOOKING OVER AT THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU WRITE THIS INTO A CODE.
UM, I, I THINK THAT WHEN IT WAS DOWN TO THREE ACTIONS WITH A FOURTH WITH, UH, APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS THAT'S MORE EASILY, EASILY TRANSFERABLE TO A CODE.
UM, IT, IT'S, UM, I, I'M UNABLE TO VOTE ON THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE FULL TOWN COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
I'M ASKING THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR AN OPINION ABOUT THAT MOTION.
WELL, WE CAN TAKE MS. BECKER'S COMMENTS AND CONVERT THAT INTO THE TEXT OF THE CODE.
I PROBABLY CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT, BUT WE CAN DO THAT, UM, AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WISHES FOR US TO DO.
I MEAN, I, I, THE, THE, I MEAN, DON'T, DON'T TAKE THIS WRONG.
THE, THE MS BECKER'S STATEMENTS OUTLINED A SERIES OF, OF CONCEPTS THAT SHE WANTS TO SEE.
THOSE CAN ALL BE CONVERTED TO, YOU KNOW, THE DRY TEXT TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO DO THAT AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
I FIND THIS INTERESTING AS A CONVERSATION, UM, IN THE, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN OUR TRADITIONAL WAY OF DOING THINGS.
I SAID, I'M NOT MAKING SOMETHING NEW.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE, AND THEN YEARS BEFORE ME SITTING UP HERE.
IT'S EXACTLY HOW WE'VE DONE THINGS.
SO THE IDEA THAT WE CAN'T COMPREHEND IT AFTER WORKING AND SITTING TOGETHER AS COLLEAGUES FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS IS BEYOND ME.
THE IDEA THAT WE CAN'T PUT THIS A SIMPLE MOTION INTO LANGUAGE AND ACCEPT IT HERE TODAY, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED IT FOR A NUMBER OF TIME, WHETHER IT'S MONTHS OR WHETHER IT'S YEARS, IS BEYOND ME.
I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE, UM, CALL THE QUESTION TO TAKE THE VOTE.
THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED WITHOUT PUBLIC COMMENT.
I, I DO APOLOGIZE 'CAUSE I WOULD NEVER WANNA DO THAT, AND THANK YOU.
FIRST OFF, FIRST OFF, I, I UNDERSTAND HER MOTION.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF, BUT I UNDERSTAND HER MOTION.
I I DO NEED CLARITY ON ONE PIECE.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT'S BEFORE US IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT ITEMS WILL COME OUT OF COMMITTEE STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL.
AND IF I UNDERSTAND MS. BECKER'S MOTION CORRECTLY, I JUST WANNA GET CLARIFICATION.
NOW, THE COMMITTEE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDIRECT STAFF WITH A 30 TO 45 DAY WINDOW.
I THINK WE, THAT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP IF THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE MOTION.
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BUT WHAT NEXT? I'M NOT QUITE CLEAR ON THAT.CAN WE CONTINUE ANOTHER 30 DAYS FOR MORE INFORMATION AND THEN ANOTHER 30 FOR MORE INFORMATION? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE, WE OWE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT NOT TO HAPPEN IF MR. ORLANDO'S GONNA KEEP PEACE.
AND THAT'S THE PIECE THAT I'M NOT HERE WITH.
IF I MIGHT, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT.
I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, IF, IF THAT IS THE WILL OF COUNSEL, THAT IT WOULD READ IN A WAY, UH, THAT WOULD STATE THAT IT WOULD BE PROVIDED AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, I DON'T THINK A TIMEFRAME OF 30 TO 45 DAYS IS REALISTIC.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PRE PRESENTED AT THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE THAT PUTS THE SHOT CLOCK ON IT.
UM, AND THEN IT, IT WOULD MOVE TO COUNCIL FROM THERE.
I, I THINK THAT IS AN EASIER WAY OF, OF DOING THAT.
I WAS JUST THINKING OF THE WORKLOAD THAT THE STAFF HAS AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT FITS INTO THEIR, THEIR SCHEDULE.
AND I, AND I, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S A BETTER WAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOTTA MAKE CERTAIN THAT STAFF IS NOT SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME ON AN ELEMENT THAT'S TAKING AWAY FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE DEEMED NECESSARY.
UM, YEAH, IE WE COULD HAVE TABLED THIS EARLIER AND SENT IT BACK.
SO,
AND I THINK YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THE INTENT IS TO, IS TO GET CORRECT INFORMATION, BUT TO SPEED THIS PROCESS UP.
SO I I'M GONNA ASK THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IF THEY WOULD RECONSIDER YOUR TIMEFRAMES.
SO ON ADVICE OF SEEING THE TOWN MANAGER.
UH, SO MY CONSIDERATION WITH THE TIMEFRAME, I THINK I SAID IT MAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I REPEAT IT, WAS TO ALLOW FOR STAFF TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTEGRATE IT INTO THEIR WORK SCHEDULE AND NOT TO EXPECT THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
AND AS LONG AS THE TOWN MANAGER IS FINE WITH THAT, THEN I WILL REVISE AS SUGGESTED AT THE NEXT, AT THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.
MAYOR, MAYOR, CAN I, CAN I JUST, CAN I HELP JUST A LITTLE BIT? SURE.
KIM, CAN WE JUST PUT THAT LAST PAGE UP BECAUSE IT WE'RE SO CLOSE THAT I THINK, YEAH, IT'S JUST TWO SMALL THINGS.
SO THERE'S AGREEMENT ON TWO OR MORE COMMITTEES WITHOUT NAMES RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S AGREEMENT ON THREE VERSUS FOUR WITH AN ALTERNATE ON THE COMMITTEE.
THERE IS AGREEMENT THAT ACT, THAT ITEMS HAVE TO COME OUT OF COMMITTEE THAT REQUIRE ACTION IN A VOTE TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH EITHER APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL, APPROVAL OF CONDITIONS, OR NO RECOMMENDATION.
AND THE COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO MAKE A DECISION AND TAKE A VOTE, THEY CAN ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION AND THAT INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO I THINK WITH THOSE PROVISIONS IN PLACE, THEN THAT SHOULD BE WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION.
AND I THINK EVERYTHING IS INCLUDED IN THERE EXCEPT THE APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR MODIFICATIONS.
AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT COMMITTEES, IF THEY NEED MORE INFORMATION, IT COMES BACK ON THE NEXT COMMITTEE AGENDA.
IF MR. MAYOR, I'D ASK, UM, COUNCILMAN REBECCA, IF SHE WOULD BE, UH, OPEN TO WITHDRAWING HER MOTION AND IT'D BE MORE CLEARLY DEFINED AS MR. COLON HAS JUST PRESCRIBED.
SO THE TOWN CLERK HAS ABSOLUTELY WHAT WE NEED.
STAFF HAS ABSOLUTELY WHAT THEY NEED.
AND WE CAN THEN ASK THE QUESTION AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
I JUST ASK IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT, MA'AM.
UM, I THINK THAT, UM, SEAN, YOU PUT IT IN A VERY CONCISE WAY.
UM, I JUST WANT MY WORDS TO BE ON THE RECORD, SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WORDS ARE IN THE MINUTES.
IT CAN BE, UM, SEAN'S COMMENTS CAN BE ADDED TO THAT AS REINFORCEMENT, BUT YES, I WANT MY WORDS IN THE MOTION.
DOES A SEC, DOES A SECOND, UH, APPROVE? YES.
NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
CHESTER WILLIAMS. AND THAT'S IT.
SO MR. CO, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR CLARITY, BECAUSE YES, I, I THINK I USE WHAT COUNCILMAN BECKER LAID OUT, BUT THERE WAS A PROVISION IN THERE ABOUT A PRESENTATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS WHATEVER COMES OUTTA COMMITTEE ADVANCES TO TOWN COUNCIL, AND THEN IF THEY WANNA, IF WE NEED TO DO A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL, LIKE EVERYTHING WE BRING FORWARD, IT'S YOUR DISCRETION NOT, YEAH.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE
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A TOWN COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE ADMIR OF TOWN COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DISAPPROVAL FOR THE ADMIR OF TOWN COUNCIL WITH NO RECOMMENDATION ON THE ITEM.AND FORWARD A RECOMME FORWARD THE TOWN COUNCIL A RECOMMENDATION WITH, FOR APPROVAL WITH CHANGES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? YES.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND OPPOSED SIX TO ONE.
THAT WAS THE EASY ITEM TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL TIME TO DISCUSS AND GO THROUGH IT.
[7.b. Consideration of Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Community Rating System Updates to the Lowcountry Natural Hazard Mitigation Plan and the Repetitive Loss Area Analysis, and Consideration of a Resolution Adopting the Program for Public Information Five-Year Update - Missy Luick, Director of Planning]
HAVE CONSIDERATION OF FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, FEMA COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM UPDATES FOR THE LOW COUNTRY TO THE LOW COUNTRY NATIONAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, AND A REPETITIVE LOSS AREA ANALYSIS AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE PRO PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION.THESE ITEMS WERE PRESENTED TO COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IN MAY WITH A VOTE OF TWO TO ZERO TO MOVE FORWARD.
MR. UM, I DID WHAT MISSY ASKED
UH, SO THIS WAS, UM, SO THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS.
UH, ONE ITEM IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE'S UPDATES TO THE 2020 LOW COUNTRY NATURAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN, WHICH WE ADOPT AND PARTICIPATE IN.
UM, IT USED TO BE THE BEAUFORT COUNTY HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN.
NOW IT'S, UM, EXPANDED TO THE FOUR COUNTIES.
THERE'S ALSO THE REPETITIVE LOSS, UM, UPDATE, ANNUAL UPDATE THAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE.
AND THEN, UM, EVERY FIVE YEARS THERE'S A PUBLIC, WHAT IS IT? SHERRY, PUBLIC PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION INFORMATION.
THAT IS, UM, THAT IS INCLUDED AND ASKED TO COME FORWARD TO COUNSEL FOR CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION.
IT WAS PRESENTED ON MAY 19TH TO COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
THEY RECOMMENDED UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.
I CAN COVER ANY OR ALL OF WHAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE.
THE ONLY ACTION IS TO, UM, TO RECEIVE THE REPORTS, THE TWO FIRST TWO, AND THEN TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
ANY, ANY, UH, DISCUSSION FROM THE, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC KIM? NO, SIR.
ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL THING? NONE.
ALL IS A FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
SO TELL MISSY SHE DID AN AMAZING JOB ON HER.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING SHE'S DONE FOR US.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO CONSIDERATION
[7.c. Consideration of a Resolution Amending the Adopted Integrated Pest Management Policy - Shawn Leininger, Assistant Town Manager]
OF A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE ADOPTED INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY.THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED AND REVIEWED TO THE, EXCUSE ME, BY THE COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IN MAY, WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD ONTO TOWN COUNCIL.
MR. LEININGER? GOOD, A GOOD AFTERNOON.
MAYOR PERRY, MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL.
SEAN LEININGER, ASSISTANT TOWN MANAGER.
UH, A AGAIN, THIS REQUEST IS FOR, UH, IF ADOPTED THIS RESOLUTION WOULD AMEND THE IPM POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024.
UM, I'LL KEEP THIS AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL.
YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION BEFORE.
AS PART OF THE ADOPTION BACK IN OCTOBER.
UH, THIS DOES COME OUT OF YOUR STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN FOR 2023.
THAT THROUGH 2025, IT WAS A, UH, THERE IS A ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY FOCUS AREA.
AS PART OF THAT FOCUS AREA, ONE OF THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO ADOPT THIS IPM POLICY.
AS I MENTIONED, THAT POLICY WAS ADOPTED IN IN OCTOBER.
UH, IT DID REALLY THREE THINGS.
IT ATTEMPTS TO REDUCE AND ELIMINATE PESTICIDE USE, PARTICULARLY SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES.
UH, IT PROVIDES NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC WHEN PESTICIDES ARE USED IN PUBLIC SPACES.
SO YOU SEE LITTLE SIGNS AROUND TOWN NOW THAT WE, WE POST IN OUR PARKS AND AROUND OUR TOWN HALL AND OTHER PROPERTIES.
AND IT ALSO WORKS TO ENSURE THAT THE TOWN IS, IS RE UH, RESPONSIBLE AND OR MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN IS, IS RESPONSIBLE, MAKING BEST MANAGEMENT DECISIONS.
UH, AS WE WENT INTO, AND THERE'S A LOT OF LANGUAGE IN HERE ABOUT WHAT THE IPM POLICY IN, IN, IN INCLUDES, I'LL PASS THAT.
BUT AS WE WENT INTO IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PLAN OVER THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS, UH, WE LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS AS WE LEARNED, LEANED INTO THIS AND, AND REALLY WORKED TO ADOPT THIS, THIS POLICY AND INTEGRATE INTO OUR, OUR OPERATIONS.
AS WE DID THAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE, WE LEARNED THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THINGS THAT WE NEED TO AMEND.
UM, AND THERE JUST, THERE ARE EIGHT ITEMS THAT ARE, THAT ARE CONSIDERED FOR AMENDMENT IN THIS, IN THIS RESOLUTION.
UH, THE FIRST IS REMOVE THE WORD LEAST TOXIC FROM THE DOCUMENT.
UH, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE ADOPTION.
WE WERE WELL-INTENTIONED WHEN WE INCLUDED THAT LANGUAGE INTO THE, INTO THE RESOLUTION.
BUT WHAT WE LEARNED IS THAT, THAT WE WERE DEFINING LEAST TOXIC BY USING EPA SIGNAL WORDS.
UM, THERE ARE LIMITS TO WHAT THOSE SIGNAL WORDS PROVIDE, AND IT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE USE WITHIN THIS IPM POLICY.
AS A RESULT, WE'D LIKE TO STRIKE THAT OUT OF THE POLICY ITSELF.
UH, WE ALSO EMPHASIZED, UH, ONE OF THE CHANGES IS TO ALSO EMPHASIZE
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THE NON PESTICIDES CONS CONTROLS, INCLUDING ORGANIC FIRST APPROACH AND ESTABLISH WHEN EPA LEVEL PESTICIDE SIZES ARE PERMITTED.SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE, IN STRIKING THE, THE NON-TOXIC, WE ARE TAKING ORGANIC FIRST APPROACH TO, UH, THE APPLICATION OF SYNTHETICS, OR I'M SORRY, THE APPLICATION OF PESTICIDES ON OUR PROPERTIES.
THAT MEANS WE ARE NOT USING SYNTHETICS.
WE HAVE NOT UTILIZED SYNTHETICS SINCE THIS POLICY WENT INTO EFFECT, WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS TESTAMENT TO, TO OUR TEAM AND, AND OUR, AND OUR CONTRACTORS THAT WE WORK WITH.
WE ARE ALSO MODIFYING THE APPROVAL AUTHORITY FOR DETERMINING WHEN EPA LEVEL PESTICIDES ARE UTILIZED.
THIS WAS A CHANGE OF, RATHER THAN JUST REFERENCING TOWN STAFF AS PART OF THE FY 26 BUDGET TOWN COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE, THE HIRING OF, UH, INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST, UH, AS, UH, TOWN MANAGER ORLANDO STATED DURING, UH, HIS REPORT, WE HAVE MADE THAT HIGHER AND THAT PERSON IS COMING ON BOARD.
WE'VE IDENTI WE'VE UPDATED THE POLICY TO REFLECT THAT POSITION AND PUT THAT PERSON IN CHARGE OF, OF THIS POLICY.
UH, NUMBER FOUR IS REALLY A BEST PRACTICE.
UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH A NON-TOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS GROUP.
UM, WE, UH, BEST PRACTICE IS TO PROVIDE FOR THIRD PARTY ANNUAL REVIEW WHEN WE DO UTILIZE EPA LEVEL, UH, PESTICIDES.
SO THOSE SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES, UM, THAT THIRD PARTY CAN BE AN A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION SUCH AS NON-TOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
IT CAN BE THE CLEMSON EXTENSION.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A HOST OF PEOPLE OUT THERE, ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT CAN HELP PROVIDE US THAT THIRD PARTY REVIEW.
AND THE, THE, THE GOAL WITH THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRANSPARENT AND THAT WE LEARN FROM WHEN WE, WHEN WE APPLY THOSE SYNTHETICS, HOW WE CAN PERHAPS AVOID THOSE SYNTHETICS IN THE FUTURE WITH MECHANICAL CONTROLS OR, OR, OR OTHER ORGANIC CONTROLS.
WE ALSO AMENDED THE PESTICIDE CONTROL REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE CONSISTENT PESTICIDE APPLICATIONS TO ALL TOWN OWNED AND MANAGED PROPERTIES.
IF YOU RECALL FROM THE ADOPTION OF THIS, WE BROKE OUT OUR PROPERTIES, WHETHER IT WAS A PARK, WHETHER IT WAS A BEACH, WHETHER IT WAS AN ATHLETIC FIELD, WHETHER IT WAS A RIGHT OF WAY, WHETHER IT WAS FACILITY.
WE ARE APPLYING THE SAME STANDARDS TO ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES.
IT'S EASIER FOR US TO ADMINISTER, IT'S EASIER US FOR IT TO IMPLEMENT.
UH, AND IT JUST MAKES GOOD SENSE TO, TO IMPLEMENT ORGANIC, UH, FIRST APPROACH TO, TO ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES.
UH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA OFFERS MULTIPLE LICENSES FOR THE APPLICATION OF PESTICIDES.
WE WERE VERY SPECIFIC IN OUR LANGUAGE BEFORE WE, WE REMOVED THAT AND, AND WE BROUGHT US MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN WE ARE HIRING STAFF AND WE ARE HIRING CONTRACTORS ABOUT THE APPLICATIONS AND STANDING CONSISTENT WITH THE, WITH THE STATE LAW.
WE ALSO SWAPPED THE USE OF THE EPA SIGNAL WORD LEVEL, UH, WITH AN EPA REGISTRATION NUMBER ON OUR SIGNS.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY PUT INTO EFFECT WHEN WE, WHEN WE KICKED THIS PROGRAM OFF.
UH, BUT WE, WE UPDATED THE, THE, THE LANGUAGE OF THE POLICY TO REFLECT THAT.
UH, AND THEN FINALLY, THE LAST TIME WE HEAR IS THAT IN RECOGNITION THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE THE ANNUAL THIRD PARTY REVIEW FOR ANY EPA LEVEL PESTICIDE USE, WE WILL PROVIDE AN ANNUAL REPORT OF OUR PESTICIDE USE.
SO WE'LL MAINTAIN THAT ON OUR TOWN'S WEBSITE.
AGAIN, IT'S FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION, IT'S FOR TRANSPARENCY.
SO PEOPLE THAT ARE USING, UTILIZING OUR PARKS AND OUR FACILITIES, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT CHEMICALS WE'RE APPLYING WITHIN OUR PARKS.
UM, WITH THAT, I, UM, I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I WILL SAY, UM, IN WORKING WITH THE, THE NON-TOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS GROUP, WE HAVE LEARNED THAT, UM, WITH THESE CHANGES AND BECOMING AN ORGANIC FIRST POLICY, WHILE THERE'S MANY OF THESE POLICIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, WE WILL BE THE FIRST POLICY IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE, TO, TO THE WORK OF, OF OUR, OF OUR TEAM AND, AND YOU ALL.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? MAYOR, I MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION, INCLUDING THE AMENDMENTS TO THE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY, FIRST AND SECOND.
KIM, ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? UM, YES.
WHO SECONDED? WELL, IT WAS A TIE, SO ANY MEETING MIGHTY MO.
OKAY, MS. BECKER, MS. BECKER
AND YES, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'M PAMELA MARTIN OVENS, HOPING THIS GOES THROUGH.
THANK YOU, MAYOR PERRY, MAYOR PRO TEM BROWN, COUNCILWOMAN BECKER, BRYSON AND TANNER COUNCILMAN ALFRED AND DE SIMONE AND TOWN MANAGER ORLANDO.
THANK YOU SEAN LEININGER AND SEAN COLON FOR HELPING US REACH THE FINISH LINE FOR A CLEAN INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT POLICY.
I'M GOING TO SEE MY PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND ASK THAT WE USE THE SAME POLICY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HOPE EVERYONE WILL DO THE SAME.
I JUST READ TODAY THAT SEVEN YEARS AFTER TOWN COUNCIL PASSED A UNANIMOUS VOTE AGAINST OFFSHORE DRILLING.
OUR GOVERNOR, HENRY MCMASTER WROTE A JOINT LETTER WITH GOVERNOR JOSH STEIN OF NORTH CAROLINA ASKING THAT THERE BE NO OFFSHORE DRILLING TO PROTECT
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OUR $29 BILLION TOURIST INDUSTRY AND PROTECT 10,000 JOBS.THIS IS A GREAT DAY FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.
OH, GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.
TOWN MANAGER, KIM CONTI, NON-TOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I WANNA BEGIN BY GIVING YOU MY DEEPEST GRATITUDE.
YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS, THERE WAS SO MUCH BACK AND FORTH AND YOU GUYS ALLOCATED SO MUCH TIME ON WEEKENDS, YOU NAME IT.
THE TEAM HAS BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF WHERE THE POLICY IS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S DEFINITELY THE GOLD STANDARD FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AND SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THAT, UH, LAGO VISTA, TEXAS HAS ADOPTED THE SAME AS WELL AS BRECKENRIDGE COLORADO'S IN PROCESS.
SO THEY'RE USING YOUR FRAMEWORK.
SO, UM, IN THE, IN THE, THE TIMING TOO, MARK ORLANDO, OUR TOWN MANAGER, DID SOMETHING BEAUTIFULLY, UM, HEALTH PROTECTIVE BEFORE THE POLICY ACTUALLY PASSED, AND HE INSTRUCTED OUR CONTRACTORS NOT TO UTILIZE GLYPHOSATE.
AND NOW WITH THE MOUNTING RESEARCH, UM, JUST LAST WEEK, THEY PUBLISHED A PAPER THAT AT SAFE DOSE LEVELS.
SO WHAT WE'RE EXPOSED TO IN PARKS THAT UTILIZE ROUNDUP CAUSES MULTIPLE CANCERS.
AND THAT HAPPENED, THAT WAS JUST PUBLISHED LAST WEEK.
SO BECAUSE OF MARK'S ACTIONS AND TOWN'S STAFF AND EVERYBODY'S WORK ON THIS, WE GOT IN FRONT OF THIS, UM, A YEAR BEFORE, UM, WE EVEN THOUGHT THE POLICY WOULD COME FORWARD.
BUT, UM, AGAIN, I, SEAN, THE FACT THAT NO SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES HAVE BEEN UTILIZED IN OUR DOG PARKS BEACH AND AROUND OUR KIDS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH CELEBRATING.
UH, THIS HISTORIC POLICY IS IN LINE WITH STATE REP BILL HERB KUSHMAN SAYS, IS PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT IS JUST GOOD BUSINESS.
AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY GONNA HELP ECOTOURISM AND OUR TURTLE PROGRAMS AND EVERYTHING.
IT JUST KIND OF SNOWBALLS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AGAIN, I'LL BE THANKING YOU AND PATSY MULTIPLE TIMES.
UM, AND I WANTED TO THANK TAMMY FOR BEING THE CHAIR OF THE SAFETY AND COMMITTEE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT AND YOU GUYS ARE SPENT SO MUCH TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT AND HOW TO, YOU KNOW, PLAY THE ROLE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
SO IT, IT WAS A LOT OF MEETINGS, BUT IT WAS WORTH IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE CREATED WILL PROTECT THIS GENERATION AND MULTIPLE GENERATIONS TO COME.
AND MY YOUNGEST SON HAS BASEBALL PRACTICE AT CROSSINGS TONIGHT WITH THE HILTON HEAD, HURRICANE 16 U AND THEY CAN SLIDE IN THE DIRT, EAT THE DIRT, ROLL IN THE GRASS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING REALLY WORTH CELEBRATING.
AND TO PATSY BRYSON, I WILL ALSO, AGAIN, NEVER STOP.
AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO CHAMPIONING THIS POLICY, AGAIN, WILL PROTECT MULTIPLE GENERATIONS.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING REALLY TO BE PROUD OF, AND IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE LEADING POLICIES IN THE COUNTRY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU GUYS.
ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL? MS. BRYSON? MAYOR, IF I COULD, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU TO TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR, UH, WHAT I THINK IS GONNA BE A SUPPORT OF THIS ACTION TODAY.
UM, I, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
UM, WE, WE WANNA BE ENVIRONMENT STRONG, BUT WE'VE BEEN ENVIRONMENT LIGHT.
UM, AND THIS IS A, A STEP TOWARDS BEING A LITTLE BIT STRONGER ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO I CELEBRATE THIS, UH, WITH US BEING FIRST IN THE STATE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PURSUIT OF EXCELLENCE.
THIS IS PURSUIT OF EXCELLENCE AND BEING ABLE TO BE THE LEADER IN THE STATE.
I HOPE THAT WE WILL SUBMIT THIS TO, TO THE MUNICIPAL ASSOCIATION AS, AS FOR AN AWARD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF AWARD, BUT SURELY THERE'S SOME SORT OF AWARD FOR ADOPTING THIS KIND OF POLICY AND SHOWING THIS KIND OF LEADERSHIP.
UM, I'VE SAID ALL ALONG THAT I HAD THREE MAIN GOALS.
ONE IS TO MOVE AS CLOSE TO ORGANIC FIRST AS WE CAN.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE GOING TO BE ORGANIC FIRST.
UM, AND THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND I SEE GAIL SAKA SITTING OUT THERE.
SHE PROBABLY IS EMBARRASSED THAT I MENTIONED HER NAME, BUT THANK YOU TO HER AND OTHER CONSTITUENTS WHO SENT ME EMAILS SAYING, I'M WALKING MY DOG IN AN, A STATE PARK IN A SORRY, IN A TOWN PARK.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SPRAYING AND I'M AFRAID.
AND SO TO GIVE NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO COME THERE, TO
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BRING THEIR ANIMALS THERE, TO BRING THEIR CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN THERE, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT TO ME.AND NOW WE DO, WE'VE BEEN PUTTING, UH, POSTING NOTICES WITH INFORMATION FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO RESEARCH WHAT'S BEEN SPRAYING, WHAT'S BEEN SPRAYED, AND THEN ALSO TO, UM, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN IS IN CHARGE INSTEAD OF OUR CONTRACTORS ARE IN CHARGE OF THE POLICY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE NOW AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE IN CHARGE.
SO I'M CELEBRATING WITH YOU ALL TODAY THANKS TO NON-TOXIC NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEIR LEADERSHIP AND TO OTHER FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THE TOWN MANAGER AND HIS STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US TO MAKE THIS POLICY HAPPEN TODAY.
JUST BRIEFLY, UM, IN THIS, REGARDLESS OF, UM, AWARDS AND TROPHIES, ET CETERA, THE FOLKS IN HILTON HEAD, OUR RESIDENTS, UM, WIN.
AND, UM, I'M PROUD TO BE OF, BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE HARD WORK THAT PAM AND KIM AND YOUR TEAM OF FOLKS WHO KEPT THIS INFORMED AROUND THE ISLAND OF THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO BE AWARE OF.
UM, IT DID TAKE A LOT OF MEETINGS AND THOSE WERE GOOD MEETINGS.
WE GOT TO A GOOD PRO, A GOOD POINT, RIGHT? SO THANK YOU FOR BEING PERSISTENT AND FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK, THE FUTURE HISTORY WILL BE WRITTEN AND YOU'LL BE THERE AND PEOPLE WILL BE SAYING, GOOD JOB.
ALRIGHT, OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A FIRST BY MS. MRS BRYSON, SECOND BY MS. BECKER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[7.d. Consideration of a Resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Hilton Head Island requesting South Carolina Opiod Recovery Funds from the Guaranteed Political Government Subfund, and authorizing the Town Manager to Execute an Intergovernmental Agreement with the Lowcountry Alliance for Healthy Youth to Utilize some or all of said Funds - Chris Blankenship, Fire Chief]
CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, REQUESTING SOUTH CAROLINA OPIOID RECOVERY FRONTS, FUNDS FROM THE GUARANTEED POLITICAL GOVERNMENT SUB FUND, AND AUTHORIZING THE TOWN MANAGER EXECUTE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WITH THE LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH TO UTILIZE SOME OR ALL HAVE SET FUNDS.THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE IN MAY, AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED THREE ZERO TO ADVANCE TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, MARK, UH, CHRIS SHIP, FIRE CHIEF S HERE TO, UH, INTRODUCE MY TEAM THAT KIND OF PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER AND IS GONNA DELIVER A PRESENTATION, UM, ON IT FOR YOU TODAY.
IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE THREE PART PRESENTATION ABOUT HOW WE WOULD USE THE MONIES INTERNALLY, OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH, UM, THE LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH.
UM, AND THEN MICHELLE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, THE, THE TIMELINE WE'RE FACING.
SO, UM, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, BATTALION CHIEF VMS, PETER JANEA, SORRY.
COUNCIL TOWN MANAGER FOR NOT ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP HERE AND PRESENT.
UH, WE'VE PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY GOOD PROGRAM.
WE THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM FOR HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SOMETHING THAT IS FILLING IN THE GAPS THAT WE'VE BEEN MISSING.
THIS WE FEEL THIS WHOLE TIME, UM, WITH THE ABILITY TO ABSORB THESE FUNDS, WE CAN FINALLY NOW UTILIZE THEM TO, TO MOVE FORWARD, TO FILL IN THESE GAPS WITH, UM, CITIZENS ON THIS ISLAND WHO ARE SUFFERING WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH MANAGEMENT.
SO, UM, LIKE WE SPOKE BEFORE, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT THREE PARTS TO THIS PRESENTATION.
I'LL GO OVER THE, UM, THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT WE'RE GONNA SPIN UP ON THE FIRE, FIRE DEPARTMENT SIDE, AND THEN OUR PROPOSAL TO WORK WITH LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH.
AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THEIR PROGRAM AND THEIR BENEFITS, AND THEN OUR BENEFITS TOGETHER, UM, WHICH ARE, WHICH IS GONNA COMPUTE IMPROVE, UM, THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND THEN AT THE END, UM, MICHELLE BUNS, OUR SENIOR GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR WILL DETAIL FUND DEADLINES, REPORTING AND FUTURE ALLOCATIONS.
OKAY, JUST GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND BEFORE WE START.
THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD HAS BEEN ALLOCATED APPROXIMATELY $331,000, UM, FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA OPIOID RECOVERY FUND, AND WE PROBABLY REFER TO THAT MOVING FORWARD AS SCO.
THESE FUNDS COME FROM, UH, NATIONWIDE LEGAL SETTLEMENT WITH OPIOID MANUFACTURERS, DISTRIBUTORS, RETAILERS THAT HAVE FOUND THAT, THAT THEY PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE EPI EPIDEMIC.
SOUTH CAROLINA JOINED THIS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SETTLEMENT TO ENSURE THAT AFFECTED COMMUNITIES RECEIVE RESOURCES TO COMBAT THE CRISIS LOCALLY.
UM, HOW MUCH FUNDING DID WE GET? WELL, IT STARTED, THE WHOLE SETTLEMENT IN ALL WAS ABOUT A $50 BILLION SETTLEMENT, AND THEY WERE AGAINST MANUFACTURERS LIKE JOHNSON AND JOHNSON.
UM, DISTRIBUTORS LIKE MCKESSON, RETAILERS LIKE CVS, WALGREENS, UM, KROGER.
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UM, SO RIGHT NOW THE TIMELINE IS WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, IT STARTED IN 2021, AND THEY'RE GONNA GO ALL THE WAY TILL 2029.SO IT'S NOT JUST A LUMP OF MONEY THAT WE'RE RECEIVING RIGHT NOW.
IT'S GONNA BE CONTINUOUS ALL THE WAY TILL 2029.
AND WE STILL COULD GET FUNDING AFTER THAT 2029.
SO WE DO HAVE A LONG LENGTH OF FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR HILTON HEAD ISLAND.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED, JUST WANNA SHOW YOU A LITTLE, THE NUMBERS BY HILTON HEAD, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO ON THE TOP THERE, I WENT FIVE YEARS ROLLING FROM 2020 TO 2024.
I, UM, REFERENCED ALL OUR OVERDOSES.
AND THESE ARE OVERDOSES WHERE WE ACTUALLY ADMINISTERED NARCAN.
UM, IN 2020 WE HAD 20, THEN WE HAD 34, 26, 10 AND 17.
SO THAT'S A FIVE YEAR TOTAL TOTAL OF ABOUT 107.
UH, ANOTHER IN, IN INTERESTING FACT, 65% WERE MALE, 35% WERE FEMALE.
AND ANOTHER ONE OUR AVERAGE AGE OF, UM, ADMINISTERING NARCAN TO PATIENTS, THEY WERE ABOUT 42 YEARS OLD.
UM, I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST POINTS ON THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE IS THAT ABOUT 50% OF INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS WILL ALSO EXPERIENCE SUBSTANCE ABUSE DISORDERS AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES.
SO WE'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO TACKLE AND ADDRESS SUBSTANCE ABUSE BY ITSELF, WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO GET MENTAL HEALTH AND CUT IT OFF AT SOME POINT SO IT DOESN'T PROGRESS INTO SUBSTANCE ABUSE.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO REACH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY, UM, HAVING, HAVING ISSUES.
THIS IS A FIELD-BASED OUTREACH EFFORT FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON PEOPLE EXPERIENCING, EXPERIENCING OPIOID USE DISORDER AND CO-OCCURRING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES ARE EMS CREWS OFTEN ENCOUNTER INDIVIDUALS DURING CRISIS, BUT AFTER THAT MOMENTS PASS, THERE ARE OFTEN NO STRUCTURED FOLLOW UP.
THIS PROGRAM, THIS PROGRAM CLOSES THAT GAP ONE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT.
FIRST, WE CONNECT OVERDOSE SURVIVORS TO TREATMENT, NOT JUST HAND THEM A PAMPHLET, BUT ACTIVELY LINK THEM TO SERVICES COUNSELORS AND MEDICATION A TREAT MEDICATION ASSISTED TREATMENTS.
SECONDLY, WE WE ENGAGE THEIR FAMILIES, EDUCATE, EDUCATE THEM ON HOW TO USE NARCAN AND WHAT RESOURCES EXIST LOCALLY TO SUPPORT RECOVERY.
FAMILIES ARE OFTEN THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE, BUT FEELS HELPLESS, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN CHANGE THAT.
AND ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL IS TO REDUCE REPEAT OVERDOSES AND LESSES THE, AND LESSEN THE STRAIN ON EMS SERVICES HERE ON THE ISLAND.
WE'RE NOT JUST TREATING SYMPTOMS, WE'RE INTERVENING EARLY AND WORKING UPSTREAM TO CREATE LONG-TERM IMPACT.
THIS APPROACH SUPPORTS PUBLIC HEALTH, REDUCES EMERGENCY RESPONSE LOAD, AND SAVES LIVES.
WHY IS THE PROGRAM NEEDED? WELL, THE EMS CREWS ARE THE ONES WHO FREQUENT, FREQUENTLY ENCOUNTER THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED.
SO WE ARE RIGHT THERE WITH THOSE THAT WE KNOW ARE HAVING THE ISSUES.
WE'RE NOT OUT THERE JUST TRYING TO SELECT ONE AND, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY MIGHT BE.
WE ARE ACTUALLY THERE EVERY DAY WHEN WE CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE IN TROUBLE.
AND IN THE PAST WE HAVE TREATED THEM, TAKEN THEM TO THE HOSPITAL, AND ONCE THEY'RE AT THE HOSPITAL, THEY GET TREATED, ASSESSED, USUALLY RELEASED RIGHT BACK OUT INTO THE STREET AND THE CYCLE CONTINUES.
THEY END UP CALLING US AND WE GO RIGHT BACK.
AND THIS CYCLE JUST CONTINUES AND CONTINUES.
THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO STOP THAT CYCLE.
UM, TRADITIONAL AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS ARE INEFFECTIVE DURING CRISISES, SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY WILLING TO LISTEN TO ANYTHING AT SOME POINT, AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GIVE THEM SOME TIME THAT THEY MIGHT NEED AND THEN FOLLOW UP STILL WHEN THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THAT ACCEPTANCE.
AND MAYBE WE NEED THE, UM, THE USE OF THE FAMILY TO HELP US WITH THAT.
EMS PROVIDERS ARE UNIQUELY POSITIONED TO INTERVENE DIRECTLY.
SO IF WE ARE THERE, WE CAN INTERVENE DIRECTLY.
AND NOW WITH A NEW PROGRAM, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY JUST DON'T GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND ARE RELEASED AND THAT WE DO THE FOLLOW UP AND THEY'RE ON, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS ANYMORE.
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OKAY, SO REFERRAL PROGRAMS. SO, SO HOW ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT NEED THE ASSISTANCE? WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TWO ROUTES.WE'VE GOT, UM, ALL OF OUR ELECTRONIC HEALTHCARE RECORDS, WE REVIEW A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE.
SO THEY'LL GET FLAGGED BY OUR QA QI COORDINATOR, AND ONCE THEY'RE FLAGGED, THEY'LL GO OVER TO A TEAM.
AND THE FLAG COULD BE ANYBODY WHO HAD AN OVERDOSE OR ANY HIGH RISK EMS ENCOUNTER OR SOME SORT OF MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS THAT WE FEEL THEY NEED A FOLLOW UP WITH.
UM, THE OTHER REFERRAL IS FROM THE GUYS AND THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
IF THEY SEE SOMETHING IMMEDIATELY, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PROCESS WHERE THEY REFER RIGHT AWAY.
AND I'M NOT TALKING, IT COULD BE IMMEDIATELY A PHONE CALL WHERE WE CAN GET SERVICES, WE CAN GET STATE INVOLVED, WE CAN GET LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND WE WILL BE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NAVIGATE THEM THROUGH THE SYSTEM THE APPROPRIATE WAY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY REFERRED TO AS A DUAL PATH SYSTEM, ENSURING WE DON'T MISS OPPORTUNITIES TO INTERVENE, ESPECIALLY WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY NOT OTHERWISE SEEK HELP.
KIND OF HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS.
ONCE, ONCE WE GET THE REFERRAL, WE'RE GONNA MAKE CONTACT WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WITHIN 24 TO 72 HOURS OF THE OVERDOSE OR ENCOUNTER.
UM, AFTER THAT, OUR TEAM OF A PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST AND EMS LIEUTENANT ARE GONNA GO OUT TOGETHER ONCE THEY GET PERMISSION AND THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE A, AN ASSESSMENT AND TRY TO NAVIGATE THEM INTO EITHER SOME SORT OF, UM, TREATMENT FACILITY, MAYBE THAT MIGHT NEED JUST SOME SOCIAL RESOURCES,
UM, AND LASTLY, PROVIDE, UM, EDUCATION NARCAN AND TREATMENT NAVIGATION.
I THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, SUPPORT CONTINUES.
EVEN IF TREATMENT OR PLACEMENT IS INITIALLY DECLINED.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT READINESS TO CHANGE DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
OUR TEAM MAINTAINS RE MAINTAINS RESPECTFUL CONTACT AND REMAINS A STEADY PRESENCE UNTIL THE PERSON IS READY TO ENGAGE.
FOR THOSE DEALING WITH CO-OCCURRING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES SUCH AS DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, OR TRAUMA, OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS AIM TO CONNECT THEM WITH THE APPROPRIATE BEHAVIORAL SERVICES, NOT JUST SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT.
RECOVERY ISN'T LINEAR AND MENTAL HEALTH MUST BE ADDRESSED ALONGSIDE ADDICTION.
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THE VITAL ROLE OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
MANY ARE STRUGGLING TOO, EMOTIONALLY, LOGISTICALLY, SOMETIMES FINANCIALLY.
WE PROVIDE RESOURCES, SUPPORT, AND NARCAN TRAINING TO EMPOWER THEM AND REDUCE THEIR RISK OF BURNOUT OR SECONDARY TRAUMA.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET INTO WHY THIS IS A PROVEN SUCCESS MODEL.
WELL, WHAT MAKES THIS MODEL SO POWERFUL IS THAT IT ALREADY HAS BEEN TESTED AND IT WORKS.
WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
WE'RE ADOPTING A PROVEN EFFECTIVE FRAMEWORK THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF HILTON HEAD.
THIS APPROACH GOES FAR BEYOND EDUCATION OR SLOGAN.
IT PUTS TRAINED PROFESSIONALS, EMS, PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PARTNERS DIRECTLY IN CONTACT WITH HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY'RE MOST REACHABLE.
IT'S A MODEL THAT SAVES LIVES AND USES OPIOID, OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS RESPONSIBLY AND IMPACTFULLY COMMUNITIES USING, USING SIMILAR OUTREACH PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN SEEN.
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THEIR, UM, THIS IS SOME OF THEIR DATA.
60 TO 80% INCREASE IN TREATMENT ENGAGEMENT, 35% REDUCTION IN REPEAT OVERDOSES.
AND THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND REDUCES FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE PATIENTS.
IT'S ESPECIALLY RELEVANT FOR US.
OUR EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY EXTREMELY OVERCROWDED BY REDUCING REPEAT OVERDOSES AND, AND AVOIDABLE ED VISITS.
WE EASE PRESSURE ON THE ALREADY STRAIN SYSTEM HERE, GIVING OUR ER AND EMS CREWS ROOM TO FOCUS ON ACUTE EMERGENCIES HERE ON THE ISLAND.
OFTEN THESE INDIVIDUALS IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM DON'T RECEIVE THE APPROPRIATE CARE OR FOLLOW.
JUST WANNA PROVIDE A COUPLE CASE STUDIES THAT I HAVE FOUND, UM, FURTHER SOLIDIFYING THAT THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS WORK.
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UM, WE'VE GOT ONE IN NORTH CAROLINA.THEIR PEER OUTREACH, UH, PROGRAM FOCUSES ON INTEGRATING PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE WILL DO, AND TO POST OVERDOSE AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE OUTREACH.
THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS WITH LIVED EXPERIENCES AND RECOVERY WHO CAN CONNECT PATIENTS IN WAYS, CLINICAL PROVIDERS SOMETIMES CANNOT.
THEIR MODEL RESULTED IN 35% REDUCTION IN EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS AND 38% DECREASE IN HOSPITALIZATIONS.
NEW BRITAIN RECOVERS CONNECTICUT SAW 51 REDUCTION IN OPIOID OVER OVERDOSE DEATHS.
AND CLARK KITZ FIRE RESCUE IN WASHINGTON STATE IMPLEMENTED A FIRE BASED OPIOID OUTREACH PROGRAM, MUCH LIKE ONE WE'RE GONNA DO HERE AND HAS SHOWN CLEAR COST EFFECTIVENESS AND MEASURABLE DROP IN NINE ONE ONE CALL VOLUME.
THE KEY RESULTS HERE ISN'T JUST FEWER DEATHS, IT'S FEWER REPEAT EMS RESPONSES.
LOWER STRAINS ON THE FRONTLINE SYSTEMS AND SMARTER ALLOCATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY SOURCES.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLICATE HERE.
IMPROVE PATIENT OUTCOMES, REDUCE BURNOUT FOR EMS AND BETTER MANAGE OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE CAPACITY.
ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THE FUNDS, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ABOUT 93,859 AND WITH THESE FUNDS, WE ARE GONNA UTILIZE A MOBILE OUTREACH VEHICLE.
THIS IS FOR THE PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST AND THE EMS LIEUTENANT TO PROVIDE THOSE OUTREACH PROGRAMS TO THE INDIVIDUALS.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE EQUIPMENT ON THERE AND ANY SORT, SORT OF LIFESAVING EQUIPMENT THEY MIGHT NEED, UM, SINCE THEY WILL BE THE ONES FRONTLINE WITH EITHER THE FAMILY OR THE PATIENT THEMSELVES.
UM, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT ORANGEBURG AND MYRTLE BEACH ALREADY HAVE THIS GOING WITH THE, WITH THE USE OF THE FUNDS.
UM, AND THEN STAFFING, WE'RE GONNA NEED A LITTLE OVERTIME.
WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON WHO'S EMS LIEUTENANT AND HE IS A FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
WE SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRING MUCH OVERTIME FROM HIM, BUT OUR PEER SUPPORT SPECIALIST, I BELIEVE HE'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE, HE IS THE MOST CRITICAL PIECE TO THIS PROGRAM AND I WILL SHOW YOU WHY, UH, TRAINING AND CERTIFICATION.
WE JUST DON'T WANNA SEND ANYBODY OUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT ANY SORT OF TRAINING.
YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THEY ARE TRAINED AND HAVE ALL THE PROPER CERTIFICATIONS AND ENSURE THEY HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GET TO OUR SUCCESS STORY AND THE MAIN, UM, PERSON OF THIS PROGRAM.
HE'S BEEN WITH FIRE RESCUE FOR, UH, QUITE SOME TIME NOW.
I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY YEARS, BUT, UM, UM, HE'S BEEN THE MOST MEANINGFUL ASSET WE'VE HAD IN THIS PROGRAM.
HE IS GONNA BE THE MOST MEANINGFUL ASSET NOW, A MEMBER OF HILTON HEP FIRE RESCUE.
AFTER BATTLING ADDICTION FOR OVER TWO YEARS, TWO, TWO DECADES, HE FOUND RECOVERY AT 35 AND NOW HAS BEEN SOBER FOR NEARLY 15 YEARS.
HIS TURNING POINT CAME WHEN SOMEONE GOT TO HIM, GOT HIM INTO TREATMENT, AND OTHERS IN RECOVERY SHARED THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH HIM, GIVING HIM HOPE WHEN HE HAD NONE.
SINCE THEN, HE HELPED NEARLY 200 PEOPLE ACCESS TREATMENT THROUGH A NONPROFIT HE CO-FOUNDED.
AND TODAY HE CONTINUES TO SERVE BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE DEPARTMENT, MENTORING INDIVIDUALS AND LEADING RECOVERY GROUPS.
HIS STORY IS A LIVING EXAMPLE OF THE IMPACT WE CAN HAVE.
AND WHEN WE MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE WITH COMPASSION LIVED EXPERIENCE AND A REAL PATH FORWARD, HE'S NOT JUST A PART OF THE SOLUTION, HE IS THE MODEL WE'RE WE'RE BUILDING FROM.
SO IN CONCLUSION, UM, THIS PROGRAM WILL WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOW COUNTRY LINES FOR HEALTHY YOUTH AND SIMILAR PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN COINED.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, NEW HAMPSHIRE THERE HAD AN OUTREACH PROGRAM PLUS A PUBLIC MEDIA BLITZ.
UH, NEW BRITAIN HAD NEW BRITAIN RECOVERS, AND THEN THEIR SCHOOL AWARENESS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO THEN THE NEXT SUCCESSFUL MODEL WILL BE HILTON HEAD ISLAND SUB SUBSTANCE ABUSE MENTAL HEALTH MANAGEMENT TEAM, AND THE LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S IT FOR THAT PORTION.
ALL RIGHT, SO FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.
WELL, MAYOR, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.
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MORE TO IT? YEAH, YEAH, I'M SORRY.I THINK WE SHOULD GO SWITCH THROUGH, GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE THING AND THEN I'M JUST TAKING IT BACK.
GO THROUGH THE REST OF ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT MS. BECKER? IS THIS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS? OKAY.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN DAVID MARTIN CAME TO ME AND WE STARTED DISCUSSING THIS PROJECT, UM, THERE WASN'T A REALLY BRIGHT LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
AND THEN MORE RECENTLY WITH THE COLLABORATION WITH THE LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE AND DR.
LORETTA, UM, THIS HAS ALL COME TO FRUITION.
I WANNA THANK MARK AND CHIEF AND BOB AND EVERYONE INVOLVED, UM, FOR THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
WHAT YOU'VE PUT TOGETHER IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT, UM, TO THE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHOSE LIFE WE HOPE TO SAVE.
AND I DON'T MEAN AT THE MOMENT ONLY, I MEAN THE LIFE THAT THAT PERSON CAN CONTINUE TO LEAD.
BUT IT'S ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE IMPACT, THE EFFECTS OF LIFE, UM, IN ADDICTION, WHETHER A WIFE, A SPOUSE, A FRIEND, A CHILD, UM, IT IMPACTS EXPONENTIALLY AND PEOPLE FOR THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL.
SO THE LIFE YOU SAVE HERE IS DRAMATIC.
AND, UM, OUR WORLD WILL BE A FAR BETTER PLACE BEFORE BECAUSE OF IT.
UM, THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT OF DEALING WITH THIS, YOU'RE RIGHT ON.
YOU'RE RIGHT ON WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED.
UM, AND I'M PROUD OF YOU ALL AND I'M GRATEFUL TO DAVID FOR CONTINUING TO, TO HELP WITH PURSUING, TO, TO BRING IT FIRST OF ALL, AND TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER WITH, WITH ALL OF US TO GET THIS TO WHERE IT IS TODAY.
UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT CAN COME IN THE FUTURE.
EDUCATION IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
TREATMENT WILL BE IMPORTANT, BUT IDENTIFYING AND HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE INDIVIDUAL AND THE FAMILIES AROUND THEM IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR WORLD.
I, I DON'T, I, YOU KNOW, MY BACKGROUND, IT IS IN TERMS OF THIS BEING MY, MY PASSION, AND THIS COULDN'T BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAN WE'VE DONE EVER ON THIS ISLAND.
SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR THAT.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN HOW TO DISPENSE SAFELY.
THE NARCAN, WHICH YOU CAN CARRY WITH YOU, I CARRY IT WITH ME.
UM, IN CASE YOU EVER COME UP UPON SOMEONE, IT WILL SAVE A LIFE.
THESE GUYS WILL TAKE OVER AND THE REST OF THESE SERVICES IN PLACE WILL, UM, LITERALLY SAVE OUR WORLD.
LORETTA, THANK YOU SO VERY, VERY MUCH.
OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, CONTINUE.
THE, UH, THE NEXT ONE'S THE LOWCOUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH.
AND THIS IS WHO WE'RE GONNA PARTNERSHIP.
AND SHE, SHE'S IN THE BACK OVER THERE.
UH, LOWCOUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH IS A LONGSTANDING COALITION FOCUS ON PROMOTING HEALTHY DRUG-FREE LIFESTYLES IN YOUTH AND FAMILIES.
THEIR WORK HAS HISTORICALLY EMPHASIZED EDUCATION, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND POSITIVE BEHAVIORAL CHOICES.
WITH THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDING, LOWCOUNTRY LINES FOR HEALTHY YOUTH IS PROPOSING EVIDENCE-BASED PROGRAMMING AND SERVICES THAT DIRECTLY SUPPORT SUBSTANCE AND USE PREVENTION AND MENTAL HEALTH INITIATIVES.
THESE INVESTMENTS WOULD HELP REDUCE LONG-TERM OPIOID MISUSE, PARTICULARLY IN YOUNGER POPULATIONS, ULTIMATELY LOWERING THE BURDEN ON OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS FAMILIES.
THIS IS ABOUT PROACTIVE, PROACTIVELY ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM UPSTREAM THROUGH PREVENTION AND YOUNG ENGAGEMENT, RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL INTERVENTION OR CRISIS CARE IS NEEDED.
UM, LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH IS THE ONLY COAL COALITION IN SOUTHERN BEAUFORT COUNTY FOCUSED ON YOUTH SUBSTANCE USE PREVENTION.
AND THEY OPERATE BY BRINGING TOGETHER ALL SECTORS OF THE COMMUNITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, SCHOOLS, PARENTS, HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS TO ADDRESS PROBLEMS COLLECTIVELY.
LOCAL RELIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH HAS A TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS, INCLUDING RECEIVING HIGHLY COMPETITIVE DRUG-FREE COMMUNITIES FEDERAL GRANT FROM 2017 TO 2027.
THIS AWARD RECOGNIZES THEIR STRENGTH IN MULTI-SECTOR, MULTI-SECTOR COLLABORATION AND SUPPORTS LONG-TERM DATA-DRIVEN SOLUTIONS
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THAT REDUCE THE USE OF SUBSTANCE LIKE ALCOHOL, MARIJUANA, NICOTINE, AND PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.THE APPROACH HERE IS LOCAL PROBLEMS REQUIRE LOCAL, SO SOLUTIONS, AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW LO LOW COUNTRY LINES OPERATES.
OKAY, WE'VE GOT A, UM, A LARGE LIST OF STRATEGIES, I'M JUST GONNA TRY TO GO OVER IT REALLY QUICKLY.
UM, LOW COUN, LOW COUNTRY LINES USES SEVEN PROVEN STRATEGIES TO REDUCE SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND RELATED RISKS.
THESE INCLUDE PUBLIC EDUCATION, SKILL BUILDING, PEER SUPPORT, AND IMPROVING ACCESS, ESPECIALLY IN SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITIES.
THEY ALSO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH COMPLIANCE CHECKS, RECOGNIZE BUSINESS THAT FOLLOW THE RULES, HELP SCHOOLS POST HEALTH MESSAGES, AND EVEN WORK ON CH CHANGING LOCAL POLICIES LIKE GETTING VAPING ADDED TO SCHOOL ORDINANCES IN HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON.
IT'S A FULL CIRCLE APPROACH FROM AWARENESS TO ACTION ALREADY WORKING ON OUR SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITIES.
UH, THESE FOLLOWING SLIDES RIGHT HERE HIGHLIGHT HOW LOW COUNTRY PLANS TO USE THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS TARGETING FOUR SPECIFIC APPROVED AREAS.
A PUBLIC HEALTH AWARENESS CAMPAIGN FOR PRINT AND MEDIA CAMPAIGN WILL TARGET DIFFERENT POPULATIONS.
PUBLIC WILL BE EDUCATED ABOUT THE YEAR-ROUND, DROP-OFF LOCATIONS, INCLUDING PREVENTION RESOURCES AND NALOXONE EDUCATION.
THREE, DRUG REMOVAL DESTRUCTION PROGRAM PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE REMOVAL OF UNUSED PRESCRIPTION OPIOIDS THROUGH DISTRIBUTION OF DETER BAGS AND FOR FAITH-BASED COMMUNITIES AS SYSTEMS TO SUPPORT PREVENTION, PROVIDE A SCRIPTURE BASED PROGRAM FOR USE IN EDUCATING FAITH-BASED COMMUNITIES.
UH, THE LAST, THE LAST SLIDE CONTINUES TO HIGHLIGHT LOW, LOW COUNTRY'S PLAN TO USE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS, TARGETING THREE SPECIFIC APPROVED PREVENTION AREAS, PARENT AND TEACHER EDUCATION, PEER-TO-PEER EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS AND YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING.
THESE ARE PROVEN PREVENTION BASED EFFORTS THAT ALIGN DIRECTLY WITH THE FUND'S PURPOSE AND WILL HAVE REAL IMPACT RIGHT HERE IN OUR HILTON HEAD COMMUNITY.
ANY DIRECT QUESTIONS ON THAT OR SHOULD WE JUST MOVE INTO ANY QUESTIONS? MOVE, KEEP ON.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA BRING UP MICHELLE FOR THE LAST PART.
YOU CHANGE IT? JUST YEAH, THIS ONE UP.
MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL AND TOWN MANAGER.
SO I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW UP AFTER THIS GREAT PRESENTATION THAT PETER AND DR.
AND IT'S BEEN AN HONOR WORKING WITH BOTH OF THEM.
I HAVE LEARNED QUITE A BIT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
SO MY PART HERE IS JUST TO, I CAN'T REALLY HEAR YOU.
YOU NEED TO BE IN FRONT ONE OF THE MICS.
UM, SO PART, MY PART HERE IS JUST TO JUST CHAT REAL QUICKLY ABOUT THE ONLINE APPLICATION.
SO I'LL BE ASSISTING FIRE AND RESCUE WITH THAT.
UM, THE DATE OF THAT FOR OPENING IS JULY 3RD THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS OPEN FOR ABOUT A MONTH.
IT IS AN ONLINE PORTAL, SO IT'S AN ONLINE APPLICATION.
INCLUDED IN THAT WILL BE THE TECHNICAL PROPOSAL AND THE BUDGET, WHICH PETER HAS KIND OF BRIEFLY WENT OVER FOR BOTH FIRE AND RESCUE IN COMBINATION WITH LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HEALTHY YOUTH.
SO WE'LL INCLUDE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION FOR THE GRANT AS WELL.
THE PROJECT START DATE, IF WE'RE AWARDED IT WOULD BE OCTOBER 1ST TO NO SEPTEMBER 30TH.
AND THAT'S JUST THE YEAR'S ALLOCATION, HOW THEY'LL KIND OF MONITOR OUR PROGRESS.
SO EACH YEAR THAT WILL BE THE START AND END DATE.
SO THINK OF IT AS THAT'S OUR FISCAL YEAR FOR THIS PROGRAM, OUR ANNUAL PROGRAM.
SO, AND THEY DO MAKE IT VERY EASY.
AND SCOR F ACTUALLY I WENT THE OTHER WAY.
SCOR F HAS BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH.
THEY HAVE BEEN VERY QUICK TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS WE'VE HAD ALONG THE WAY.
SO THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL, UM, ASSISTING US.
SO THIS NEXT SLIDE JUST TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, GOES BACK TO WHAT PETER I REFERRED TO, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT ALLOCATION TO DATE, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 331,000.
THIS IS ACCUMULATION OF ABOUT THREE YEARS RIGHT NOW OF FUNDS THAT ARE SITTING THERE.
SO THAT IS WHY WE ACTUALLY MUST EXPEND A PORTION OF THESE FUNDS YOU SEE IN THAT LAST LITTLE SECTION BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, WHICH WE CAN EASILY DO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR SURE.
UM, SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE THERE.
UM, AFTER THAT IS ON A THREE YEAR BASIS THAT YOU SEE HERE.
SO THE ANNUAL, THE ANNUAL ALLOCATIONS ARE AVAILABLE IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER AROUND THAT
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TIMEFRAME, JUST DEPENDING ON BUDGET, HOW THAT FALLS.AND ONE THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT THESE ALLOCATIONS, WHEN WE, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT GRANTS AND THINGS.
WE TALK ABOUT IS THIS A FEDERAL GRANT, IS THIS A STATE GRANT OR LOCAL, THIS IS A SETTLEMENT.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF FUNDING.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO, AND PETER ALREADY ALLUDED TO THIS, SO WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDING, UM, SCORE HAS PROVIDED TO US FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS COMING UP.
UM, POTENTIALLY THERE IS FUNDING RIGHT NOW AS LATEST UP TO 2038 AT THIS POINT.
BUT THIS IS THE ONLY AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO US, WHICH IS UP TO 2030.
AND YOU SEE THE NUMBERS DO GO DOWN AS THE SETTLEMENT KIND OF TAKES PLACE AND, AND IS BEING USED NATIONWIDE.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU SEE THAT.
UM, AND I THINK OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND ABOUT THIS, AND WE'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, IS THIS, UM, REVENUE WHEN IT COMES IN, UM, ANY INTEREST THAT'S EARNED ON THIS REVENUE AS IT'S SITTING IN A BANK ACCOUNT DOES HAVE TO BE USED ON THE OPIOID RECOVERY PROGRAM.
AND WE'RE FULLY AWARE OF THAT AND WE'LL MONITOR THAT AS WE GO ALONG.
OH, I KEEP GOING THE OTHER WAY.
UM, AS WITH ANY GRANT, THERE'S REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO WE WILL BE REPORTING EVERY SIX MONTHS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE ASKED LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE TO HELP US OUT WITH, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE PART OF THE PROGRAM AND PROVIDE REPORTS TO US TOO, TO, ON A QUARTERLY BASIS SO THAT WE HAVE THE MOST UPTODATE INFORMATION AND MOST COMPREHENSIVE REPORT TO SHARE WITH SCOR.
AND SO I THINK IN THE F AND A COMMITTEE MEETING, IT WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE TELL THE FULL STORY DATA INCLUDED? BUT ALSO MORE THAN JUST DATA, WE NEED TO TELL THE STORY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAD ON IT.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
AND WITH THE HELP OF LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE AND, AND FIRE AND RESCUE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO IT'S VERY EXCITING WHEN WE HAVE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS TO MAKE THE MOST BENEFIT FROM IT.
UM, ANNUAL REPORTING, WE DO HAVE, YOU SEE, JANUARY TO ENCOMPASS A FULL CALENDAR YEAR, NOT A FISCAL YEAR, WILL BE A CALENDAR YEAR.
UM, AND THEN TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT SCORE FOR ITSELF WILL PUBLISH AN ANNUAL STATE AUDIT.
SO THAT WILL REPORT ON ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, AGENCIES THAT IN THE STATE THAT ARE UTILIZING THIS FUNDING ALTOGETHER.
SO, AND THAT IS IT ON THE ACTUAL GRANT PORTION OF IT.
SO, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE THE EASY PART.
ANY QUESTIONS AND JUST IN CONCLUSION, UM, THIS, THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM FOR US.
WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW.
AND, UM, AS WE GO ALONG, WE DO THINK THERE WILL BE NEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARISE AND, AND POTENTIALLY NEW PARTNERSHIPS.
AND WE WILL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, FOR ANY AGREEMENTS THAT WE WE HAVE GOING FORWARD.
SO TO, THIS IS JUST A START, MR. BROWN.
YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE CHIEF, UH, MAKING THOSE CLOSING COMMENTS.
UM, WE DID HAVE, UH, AT LEAST ONE PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE F AND A COMMITTEE THAT ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE AVERAGE AGE OF THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING ISSUES, WHICH IS 42.
UH, SO I COMMEND YOU IN BEING ABLE TO GET ON THE GROUND WITH SOMEONE WHO'S COMMITTED TO THIS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND BETTER WHERE THE GAPS ARE.
UH, ANOTHER THING THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS THAT THERE'S A GAP IN FACILITIES WHERE FOLKS CAN ACTUALLY GO FOR TREATMENT.
SO I JUST ENCOURAGE STAFF TO BE VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH CHANGING THIS THROUGH OPPORTUNITIES.
AND YOU MAY BRING US SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
AND JUST, UH, SOME CLARIFICATION.
I NEED, UH, I THINK THE, ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES SAID THAT 85% OF THE MONEY'S GOING TO COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES AND THERE'S A 15% DISCRETIONARY.
UM, SO I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE OR OTHERS CAN MAKE THEIR WAY TO THAT 15%.
AM I CORRECT IN THAT, THAT DISCRETION THERE, THEY OFFER NONPROFITS AND OTHER ENTITIES? YEP.
SO BASICALLY, IT'S A SORT OF A SUPPLEMENTARY FROM OUR SIDE, RIGHT? UM, SO AGAIN, I JUST ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE WAY, UM, AS YOU REPORT OUT TO US.
OTHER COMMENTS, MS. BRYSON? I AGREE.
IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM AND THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
UM, AND IT IT'S GREAT THAT EMS IS THE LEADERSHIP TEAM HERE, HERE 'CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SEE IT UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.
SO HAVING THAT IN LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE, UM, AND, AND LOOKING AT THE FUNDING AND THE RESOLUTION, UM, IT'S 93,000 859 35 TO FIRE AND RESCUE, AND THEN $238,005 TO THE LOW COUNTRY ALLIANCE FOR HELP THE YOUTH.
UM, AND, AND IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.
UM, I, I SUPPORT IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING SUCCESS.
AND I'M HOPING THAT ONCE WE APPROVE THIS, WE CAN PUT INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE TO LINK FOLKS TO THIS MM-HMM
SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THEY CAN SEEK HELP, UM, EITHER WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE A FAMILY MEMBER
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WITH SOMEONE WHO'S ADDICTED OR WHETHER THERE'S SOMEONE SUFFERING FROM ADDICTION.SO WE CAN SET 'EM UP WITH THOSE LINKS.
AND IF TO THE EXTENT WE KNOW OF ANY FACILITIES, UM, IN THE AREA THAT FOLKS COULD REACH OUT TO, UM, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL, PART OF THE PUBLIC INFORMA PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.
AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, UH, SEEK ASSISTANCE FROM OUR LOCAL DELEGATION FOR, UH, MORE FACILITIES, UM, ON A REGIONAL BASIS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT OUTREACH AS WELL.
BECK, NOTHING THAT YOU REALLY TO ADD, UM, OTHER THAN THAT EDUCATION PIECE.
AND THERE ARE, UM, THERE'S SOME WORK THAT HAVE BEEN DOING ON THAT I HAVEN'T REALLY DEVELOPED FULLY, BUT IS VERY PROMISING WITH REGARD TO TREATMENT CENTERS.
BUT THE, UM, EDUCATION 42 IS THE AVERAGE, BUT IF WE CAN GET FOLKS, UM, YOUNGER TO UNDERSTAND AND TO ASSIST, UM, ALONG THE WAY, WE CAN HOPEFULLY, UM, WORK TO PREVENT THEM FALLING INTO THIS CYCLE.
UM, I WENT FROM BEING INTERESTED IN PSYCHOLOGY AND COUNSELING AND DRUG AND ALCOHOL ADDICTIONS TO EDUCATION FOR EXACTLY THAT REASON, SO THAT YOU COULD BE IN THE CLASSROOM AND TALK AND SEE THE AREAS WHERE THERE WAS NEED, UM, THAT MAYBE WASN'T PICKED UP THERE.
THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT FROM THE VERY YOUNGEST TO, UM, THE OLDEST.
THIS IS NOT A, A SINGLE AGE BRACKET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN AND THANK YOU DAVID AND DOCTOR, UM, LORETTA FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE PUT IN WITH THIS.
AND, UM, THANK YOU CHIEF AND ALL OF YOUR STAFF AS ALWAYS, MS. DUNNER.
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR VERY THOUGHTFULLY DEVELOPED PROGRAM AND YOUR, UM, DOING THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.
I LOVE THE TWO-PRONGED APPROACH, FOCUSING ON PREVENTION WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AND THEN SUPPORTING THOSE IN THE THROES OF ADDICTION.
AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT, THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF WHAT IS CAUSING THE ADDICTION AND PROVIDE SUPPORT NOT ONLY FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
UH, AND AS ALWAYS, I LOVE YOUR DATA DRIVEN APPROACH.
UH, SO I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GONE OUT THERE AND EXPLORED WHAT WORKS IN OTHER AREAS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO SEE HERE.
SO ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT APPROACH AS WELL.
LASTLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AN AVERAGE AGE OF 58 59, BUT YET WE'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT THE AVERAGE AGE OF 42.
SO THAT DOES INDICATE A LOT YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED.
SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT.
UM, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UM, RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF US, UM, AS IT'S WRITTEN AND WITH FULL SUPPORT.
KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? NO.
ANY, ANY OTHER CONVERSATIONS FROM COUNSEL? SEEING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
YEAH, I, I WAS GONNA, UM, IF WE COULD TAKE A, A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, UH, RECESS REAL QUICK, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE'LL JUST SAY, WE'LL SAY FIVE 30.
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ALL RIGHT, KIM, ARE WE GOOD TO GO? LEMME CHECK.
[7.e. Consideration of a Resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Hilton Head Island, Authorizing and Ratifying the Execution of Certain Redevelopment Projects Undertaken Pursuant to the Town's Tax Increment Financing (TIF) Redevelopment Plan, Including Projects in Adjacent Areas that Directly Benefit the Redevelopment Area, and Provide Notice to the Taxing Entities in Accordance with State Law - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]
HAVE A CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, AUTHORIZING AND RATIFYING THE EXECUTION OF CERTAIN REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS UNDERTAKEN PURSUANT TO THE TOWN'S TAX INCREMENT FINANCING, TIFF REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, INCLUDING PROJECTS IN ADJACENT AREAS THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE TAXING ENTITIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO THE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE IN MAY, AND THE COMMITTEE VOTED THREE TO ZERO TO ADVANCE TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
MR. COLA, THANK YOU, MAYOR TO COUNCIL, UH, TOM MANAGER, UH, SEAN OG HERE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM
SO I CAN GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL ON AS YOU WANT ON THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCE DISTRICT AND PROCESS AND PURPOSE.
BUT THIS, I'M TRYING TO, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS AT, AT A HIGH LEVEL, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO IN 1999, THE TOWN ESTABLISHED A TIF DISTRICT, AND THIS IS THE MAP THAT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE IN 1999, ESTABLISHING THE TIF DISTRICT.
YOU CAN SEE THE BLACK OUTLINE.
SO IN AN AREA ON THE NORTH END, UH, WE COMMONLY REFER TO AS STONY AND AN AREA ALONG SQUARE POPE ROAD, THE WATERFRONT SIDE WAS PART OF THAT TIP DISTRICT.
UH, IT WAS BUILT FROM THE STONY INITIATIVE AREA PLAN, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT HERE RECENTLY.
THERE'S AN AREA IN THE CENTRAL ISLAND THAT WAS BUILT FROM THE WARD ONE MASTER PLAN, BUT ALSO THE CHAPLAIN INITIATIVE AREA.
AND SO IT INCLUDES, UM, AREAS ALONG MATTHEWS DRIVE, UH, SOME AREAS ALONG MARSHLAND ROAD, UH, AREAS IN CHAPLAIN ALONG
AND THEN, UM, AREAS HERE, UH, WHAT KIND OF BRAD? I THINK IT'S BRADLEY.
YEAH, BRADLEY BEACH, UH, AREA.
SO THEY CAME OUT OF ANOTHER INITIATIVE AREA PLAN IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, UH, THAT THAT WAS UNDERWAY AND WAS ADOPTED IN EARLY TWO THOUSANDS.
AND THEN THE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH INITIATIVE AREA, WHICH AS THE CROSS ISLAND WAS BEING DELIBERATED.
AND I CAN CERTAINLY RELATE TO A BRIDGE PROJECT.
AND THE AMOUNT OF DELIBERATION THAT WENT IN THE BRIDGE TO THE BEACH AREA PLAN WAS DRAFTED, WHICH SET THE TONE FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ONCE THE CROSS ISLAND WAS IN PLACE, UM, ALL THE WAY DOWN PIMENTO BAY ROAD, ALL THE WAY TO, TO THE, UM, KIG BEACH AREA.
AND THEN THE AREAS ALONG AT POONA BAY, POPE AVENUE, THE AREA ON SEA PINES.
SO THOSE THREE INITIATIVE AREA PLANS, UM, WERE UTILIZED AS A FOUNDATION FOR THE TIF REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WITHIN THAT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE WERE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED, UH, TO INCLUDE, UM, YOU KNOW, WATER PATHWAYS, PUBLIC FACILITIES, PARKS WHERE PUBLIC INVESTMENT WOULD BE MADE THAT WOULD HELP, UM, TO LEVERAGE PRIVATE SECTOR REDEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT.
THAT ADDITIONAL TAX BASE THAT RESULTED AS THESE DISTRICTS GREW, EVOLVED, INCREASED IN VALUE THAT ADDITIONAL TAX BASE WAS FOR FORGIVEN, NOT FORGIVEN, WAS FORGONE BY THE BEAUFORT COUNTY, BY BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL,
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THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND ANY SPECIAL TAXING ENTITY LIKE IN THESE CASES, SOUTH ISLAND, PSD AND HILTON HAD PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT.SO THE TAX RATE WAS LOCKED IN AT THE BASELINE YEAR OF 1999 IN THIS CASE.
AND THE ADDITIONAL TAX THAT WAS GENERATED WITHIN THAT TIF DISTRICT IN YEAR ONE THROUGH 15 INITIALLY, AND THEN IT WAS AN EXTENDED TO 2024.
SO THROUGH 25 YEARS, THAT ADDITIONAL TAX GENERATED WAS PROVIDED TO THE TOWN TO UTILIZE TOWARD IMPLEMENTATION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE PROJECTS THAT WERE LOCATED, THAT WERE CONTAINED WITHIN THOSE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS.
THAT'S THE BACKGROUND ON ON ON THE OVERALL TIFF.
UM, IN 2014, THE TOWN EXTENDED THE TIFF DISTRICT DURATION FROM 15 YEARS TO 25, EXTENDED IT ANOTHER 10 YEARS.
AS PART OF THAT INITIATIVE, THE ADOPTION OF THE REVISED OR AMENDED TIF DISTRICT ALLOWED THE EXTENSION OF 10 YEARS.
IT ALLOWED FOR A ADDITIONAL COMPLETION OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL 15 YEAR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND ALSO ADDED THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE THREE KEY THREE PROJECTS, THREE ADDITIONAL LARGER PROJECTS.
THE FIRST ONE WAS THE USCB FACILITY, WHICH IS LOCATED ON OFF OFFICE, UH, PARK ROAD.
I THINK IT'S ONE SAND SHARK DRIVE NOW, BUT ON OFFICE PARK ROAD.
THE SECOND, UM, MAJOR PROJECT OF THE THREE WAS THE LOW COUNTRY, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK.
I DON'T KNOW, WE, WE HAD A NAME FOR IT BACK THEN, KIG KIG PARK.
UM, BUT THAT WAS THE SECOND MAJOR INVESTMENT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THAT 10 YEAR EXTENSION.
AND THE THIRD WAS THE CHAPLAIN LINEAR PARK, UH, WHICH REALLY RAN FROM, UM, WELL, IT RUNS FROM THE REDEVELOPED SHELTER COVE MALL, WHICH IS NOW SHELTER CALLED TOWN CENTER ALONG THE, THE WATERFRONT TO CONNECT OVER THE INLET NEAR WHERE THE, UH, SHERIFF'S SUBSTATION OR SHERIFF SHERIFF'S STATION IS.
UM, AND ACROSS THAT INLET INTO THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY, UH, AND RUN TO CONNECT TO CHAPLAIN PARK AND THEN EXTEND CONNECTION TO THE BEACH.
SO THOSE WERE THE THREE MAIN PROJECTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THAT 10 YEAR EXTENSION, AND WERE MEANT TO BE FUNDED WITH AN ANTICIPATED ADDITIONAL $50 MILLION GENERATED IN THAT 10 YEAR PERIOD BY THE APPRECIATION OF VALUES AND THROUGH REINVESTMENT IN THE TIF DISTRICT.
SO THAT PROVIDES THE FOUNDATION OF WHY WE'RE HERE.
AS PART OF THE MECHANISM FOR INVESTING IN THE TIF REDEVELOPMENT AREAS, THIS TIF DISTRICT, YOU MUST SPEND THE FUNDS WITHIN THAT REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
THERE IS AN OPTION THAT YOU SPEND MONEY IN AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE TIF DISTRICT, PROVIDED YOU PROVIDE THE, UM, JUSTIFICATION OF THE BENEFIT THAT INVESTMENT WOULD HAVE ON THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA WITHIN IN INSIDE THE BOUNDARY.
AND SO, UM, I'M GOING TO CLICK THROUGH A COUPLE DOCUMENTS TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.
SO AS THE TIFF EXTENSION WAS BEING DISCUSSED, UM, AND AS THOSE THREE BIG PROJECTS WERE BEING DISCUSSED AND HOW TO FUND THEM, UM, TOWN COUNCIL, KNOWING THAT THE USAB FACILITY AND THE LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK WERE WITHIN THE TIFF AREAS, BUT THAT THE CHAPLAIN LINEAR PARK HAD PORTIONS WITHIN THE TIF DISTRICT AND PORTIONS OUTSIDE THE TIF DISTRICT, THEY ADOPTED A RESOLUTION IN 2012, UM, SAVING THEIR INTENT THAT THEY WERE GONNA SPEND TIF GENERATED FUNDS ON THE PROJECT, INCLUDING PORTIONS OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT BECAUSE IT WAS GONNA PROVIDE A BENEFIT WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
UM, SINCE THEN, WE HAVEN'T SPENT, WELL, UP UNTIL RECENTLY, WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY, ANY TIF REVENUES OUTSIDE OF THE TIF DISTRICT WITH THIS EXCEPTION.
UM, AND AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH TO, TO FINALIZE THE TIF AND CLOSE IT OUT HERE, SOME, UH, IN THE COMING MONTHS, WE IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS, A COUPLE, THERE WERE A FEW OTHER PROJECTS WHERE WE HAD SPENT SOME TIF FUNDS, UH, FOR PROJECTS OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT.
AND WE OWE IT NOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRO PROVIDE YOU A RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE SPENT 'EM AND IN THAT RESOLUTION PROVIDE THE JUSTIFICATION AS TO THE BENEFIT THEY PROVIDE TO THE DISTRICT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU.
UM, IT WENT TO F AND A COMMITTEE, UH, OUR FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE ON MAY 29TH.
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UH, THEY APPROVED IT.AND, UM, IF IT'S EASIER, I CAN JUST GIVE YOU A SUMMARY.
I DON'T, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THE INVESTMENTS.
I'LL FOCUS ON THOSE THAT WERE MADE OUTSIDE THAT PROVIDED OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT AND PROVIDED BENEFIT WITHIN.
SO YOU CAN SEE GREEN SHELL PARK THE BOUNDARY, THE TIFF BOUNDARY IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE, THE, THE LINE RUNS RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
THE PARK'S NOT IN THE PROPERTY.
NEXT DOOR IS OUR INVESTMENTS IN THAT, IN THAT FACILITY TO DATE OF 44,000, UH, RESURFACING.
SOME COURTS, UM, AND SOME OTHER MINOR IMPROVEMENTS HAVE PROVIDED A BENEFIT IMMEDIATELY TO THAT DISTRICT AS IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
CHAPLAIN COMMUNITY PARK, WHICH AGAIN, WAS PART OF THE LARGER CHAPLAIN, UM, LINEAR PARK CONCEPT.
UH, WE SPENT ABOUT 150, WELL, $154,000, UM, TOWARD CHAPLAIN COMMUNITY PARK USING TIFF FUNDS.
BUT AGAIN, ADJACENT ACROSS THE STREET CONNECTED THIS MIDDLE ONE, I PUT AN ASTERISK ON THERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE 2012 RESOLUTION INDICATED OUR INTENT TO SPEND MONEY IN THAT AREA.
UM, AND WHEN WE EXECUTED THE, THAT BOARDWALK EXTENSION, WHICH IS NOW GONNA BE THE FRANK BABEL TRAIL, UM, WE USED TIFF FUNDS TO EXECUTE THAT PROJECT.
UM, AND WE SPENT A LITTLE OVER A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED THROUGH THE RE OR, OR, OR COMMUNICATED WITH THAT PREVIOUS RESOLUTION, BUT WE'VE INCLUDED IT IN HERE, WANTED TO SHOW EVERYTHING SINCE THE EXTENSION FORWARD.
AND THEN THE TWO OTHER ONES, MID ISLAND TRACT, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE TIF DISTRICT.
WE KNOW THAT THE MID ISLAND TRACT IS A, IS A SIGNIFICANT, UM, PROPERTY AS YOU LOOK AT, UH, CONVEYANCE OF STORM WATER, THE NATURAL AND OTHER NATURAL SYSTEMS. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, THE ASHMORE TRACK CONNECTION TO BROAD CREEK ALL THE WAY TO FISH OIL CREEK.
UM, SO CERTAINLY IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF THAT PROPERTY AND TO THE STORM WATER AND NATURAL SYSTEMS PROVIDED BENEFIT TO THE ADJACENT TIFF DISTRICT.
AND THEN FINALLY, PATTERSON FAMILY PARK, AGAIN, THE TIFF DISTRICT RAN ALONG MARSHLAND ROAD.
UM, IT'S A DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET ON THE OTHER PART OF THE PATTERSON, YOU WHAT WAS FORMERLY THE PATTERSON PROPERTY WHERE HABITAT, UM, HAD DEVELOPED.
UM, BUT WE'VE SPENT ABOUT $13,000 THERE OF TIFF FUNDS, UM, ON A PROJECT THAT WILL, UH, THAT WILL PROVIDE DIRECT BENEFIT TO, UM, TO THE, TO THE, UH, DISTRICT ITSELF AND USERS.
SO WHEN I LOOK, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS WHOLE THING, IT'S 2.14 MILLION.
I BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY PUT FOLKS ON NOTICE OF THE 1.6.
THIS IS TO CLARIFY TO OUR TAXING PARTNERS, HEY, WE SPENT ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ON PROJECTS JUST OUTSIDE.
WE'RE LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE DONE THAT.
THERE'S, WE'VE ESTABLISHED A BENEFIT OF WHAT THAT HAS DONE FOR THE DISTRICT.
AND THERE'S NO FURTHER ACTION BEYOND THIS.
ONCE, IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WE WOULD SEND THIS INFORMATION TO BEAUFORT COUNTY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND PSDS, UM, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.
IS THERE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION OF, UM, AS WRITTEN FOR A SECOND, MR. ALFRED, UH, KIM, ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? OKAY.
COMMENTS BY COUNSEL, MS. DUNNER? YES.
SO THE PROGRAM FOR THE TIFF ENDS, UH, JUNE 30TH.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IS CLOSING OUT THIS PROGRAM.
AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT AS WE DO THAT.
SO NO MORE MONEY IS BEING COLLECTED BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS COMPLETED, AND THE RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS TO MEMORIALIZE WHAT'S BEEN SPENT SINCE THE LAST EXTENSION FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES TO THESE OTHER ENTITIES.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE FINANCE MEETING IS, UM, ABOUT ANY REMAINING TIFF BONDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PAID OFF.
UM, DO WE HAVE SOME? AND IF SO, HOW MUCH AND WHEN WILL WE BE PAYING THOSE OFF? GOOD EVENING.
SO THE LAST PAYMENT FOR OUR THIEF BOND WAS PAID ON JUNE 1ST.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE OH, PAYMENTS.
UH, AND THEN, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT IN THE ACCOUNT AS A BALANCE? AND IF SO, HOW ARE WE ALLOCATING THAT MONEY, UH,
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TO CLOSE OUT, UH, THOSE FUNDS? YES.WE HAVE ABOUT $4 MILLION LEFT.
AND AS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO CARRY FORWARD WITH THE APPROVAL OF COUNCIL ABOUT $1.3 MILLION.
SO THAT WILL LEAVE THE REMAINING $3 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE, UH, TRYING TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS THAT WILL BE WITHIN THE TIF DISTRICT SO WE CAN FINISH SPENDING THE REMAINING $4 MILLION OF THE TIF MONEY.
AND TO ANSWER ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, THAT YOU ASK, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY ABOUT $60,000 REMAINING, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT WE STILL HAVE TO RECCE THAT WE WILL BE RECEIVING BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL IS, I KNOW WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING UP SOMETIME THIS SUMMER TO TALK ABOUT ALTERNATE REVENUE STREAMS AND TO TALK ABOUT TIFF ITSELF.
AND IT'LL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UH, GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF EXACTLY HOW THAT PROGRAM WORKS.
UM, AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, REVIEW THIS TIF PROGRAM IN ITS ENTIRETY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF MATERIALS TO GO THROUGH AND, AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STOOD OUT WAS THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, NON-CONTIGUOUS AREAS, UH, THREE AREAS IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE TIF DISTRICT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ALLOCATION OF MONEY THAT WAS SPENT, THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY WAS SPENT IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE ISLAND AND, AND NOT IN THE CHAPLAIN AND, AND STONY COMMUNITY.
AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO LAY OUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROGRAM, UH, HOW WE SPENT THE MONEY, UH, AND ONE OF THE, UH, BENEFITS OF THIS PROGRAM IS IT'S SUPPOSED TO DRIVE REDEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS.
AND SO IT'D BE A GOOD QUESTION TO ASK, DID WE GET THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAD HOPED AND ANTICIPATED, UH, WITH THIS INVESTMENT AS WELL? AND I THINK THAT'LL, UH, BE, UH, INTERESTING FOR US AS WE THINK ABOUT, UH, POTENTIALLY USING TIF TO, UM, DOLLARS IN THE FUTURE, UM, AS A FUNDING STRATEGY.
YES, WE WILL PROVIDING YOU WITH INFORMATION ABOUT TIFF AND ALSO PROVIDING YOU WITH A RECONCILIATION OR WITH OF THE TF TIF FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. BROWN? UM, NOT A QUESTION.
UH, I AGREE WITH MSNA, UH, AS WE LOOK AT THE ALLOCATIONS, UM, I MEAN, WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT IF IT WAS EQUITABLE OR NOT.
UM, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT IS WHAT IT IS.
IT'S OUR JOB AS THE SEATED COUNCIL TO LOOK AHEAD.
UM, JOHN MENTIONED SOMETHING AT THE BEGINNING THAT I THINK IS VERY INTERESTING AS WE GET INTO THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES AND TIF MAYBE BEING ONE OF THEM.
WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED, AND I MADE A COMMENT EARLIER, THAT WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WHEN IT COMES TO BRINGING OUR DOLLARS BACK HOME FROM THE COUNTY WITH A TIFF.
YOU ARE FREEZING IT AT THE CURRENT VALUATION.
ANYTHING IN EXCESS WE BRING HOME.
AND IF YOU START TO LOOK AT HILTON HEAD, HISTORICALLY, THE WAY THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUES CONTINUE TO RISE, TO ME, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR BREAD COMES BACK HOME TO SOME DEGREE.
UM, I, I AGREE WITH MY TWO COLLEAGUES FROM FINANCE ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE AND, AND CERTAINLY WAS A LOT OF NEW DATA FOR US, UH, THOSE OF US WHO WEREN'T AROUND WHEN THE TIFF WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED OR FOLLOWED IT THROUGH.
UM, BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT SPECIFICALLY A COUPLE OF NUMBERS AND, AND I AGREE WITH MR. BROWN.
I I'M DOING THIS TO REFLECT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN, IN THE, UH, THE POST-OP, IF YOU WILL, THAT MS. TURNER'S ASKING ABOUT, UH, TO PARTICULARLY LOOK AT THESE.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE ORIGINAL TIF PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE 1999 DASH 35, IT SHOWED AN ESTIMATE OF PROJECT CALLS FOR TAX, TAX INSTRUMENT, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT SAY THAT THREE TIMES.
UM, AND SO FOR THE CHAPLAIN BROAD CREEK AREA, IT SHOWED 5.5 MILLION MATTHEWS GARDNER AREA, ONE POINT A LITTLE UNDER 1.7 MILLION PALMETTO BAY ROAD AREA, 5 MILLION KIG CIRCLE AREA, 11.45 MILLION, SEA PINE CIRCLE, 1,950,000 STONY AREA, $8,200,000.
I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS ACTUALLY SPENT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, TOTAL OF THREE, THREE, ABOUT THREE 3.9 MILLION
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A TOTALING WITH OTHER COSTS, 65 MILLION.THEN AS, AS MR. COLLIN POINTED OUT, UM, THERE WERE SUBSEQUENT AMENDMENTS, UM, INCLUDING ANOTHER ACTION, UM, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2014 DASH 11, WHICH TALKED ABOUT THOSE OTHER PROJECTS WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WERE RAISED.
UM, SAID 51 POINT ABOUT 51.9 MILLION HAD BEEN SPENT THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2013.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS A REMAINING BUDGET FOR THE ORIGINAL TIFF, A LITTLE OVER 13 MILLION, THEN ADDITIONAL 50 MILLION, MOST OF WHICH AS YOU REPORTED, MR. COLLIN WAS SPENT IN THE KG AREA IMPROVEMENTS, LOW COUNTRY CELEBRATION PARK IN USCB, AND THEN ALSO THE CHAPLAIN LINEAR PARK.
UM, AND IT PUTS NO DOLLARS FOR STONY.
UM, THEN IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT ONE OF THE EXHIBITS TO OUR RESOLUTION TODAY, UM, IT POINTS OUT, UM, TOTAL AMOUNT SPENT FOR SEA PINE CIRCLE, CL CIRCLE, PALMETTO BAY AREA, JUST UNDER $47 MILLION FROM MATTHEWS GARDEN REDEVELOPMENT AREA, A LITTLE OVER 55,000 STONY ISLAND ENTRANCE REDEVELOPMENT AREA $276,700 FOR CHAPLAIN BROAD CREEK REDEVELOPMENT AREA, $138,454.
UM, SO AS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND, AND THANK YOU MS. BURNETT FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THE REMAINING FUNDS, WE HAVE A, A LITTLE OVER, AS I UNDERSTAND, 1.3 MILLION LESS, 3 MILLION IS ALLOCATED, UM, IN, IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, AND THOSE ARE LISTED IN A REPORT TO US.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE CONSIDER VERY STRONGLY ALLOCATING THAT 1.3 MILLION TOWARDS OUR STONY, UM, QUARTER MASTER PLAN.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD BE SPENT.
UM, IT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN THE ORIGINAL AND AMENDED TIF DISTRICT.
UM, AND IT COULD GO TOWARDS HELPING WITH THAT SITUATION SOMEWHAT.
I KNOW LOOKING AT MAYBE THE TOTAL COST OF THE, THE MASTER PLAN THAT WON'T DO IT, BUT AT LEAST THERE'LL BE A STEP TOWARDS THAT.
UM, AND, AND I AGREE THAT WE NEED A POST-OP, POST-MORTEM, WHATEVER IT IS ON THIS, UM, LOOKING FORWARD.
UH, THE LAST THING I'LL SAY ABOUT IT, UM, WELL, TWO MORE THINGS.
ONE IS WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, BUT ALSO THAT IN LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION AND THE EDUCATION WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR ON USING TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT, UM, THAT IT IS A, A GOOD MEANS AS MR. BROWN EXPLAINED OF FREEZING F FREEZING THE TAX AMOUNT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL AND USING THE INCREASE IN THAT VALUE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND TO STIMULATE REDEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S AN EXCELLENT FINANCING TOOL THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT FOR THE FUTURE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE'VE GOT A MO MOTION BY MS. BECKER, SECONDED BY MR. ALFRED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[7.f. Consideration of an Ordinance of the Town Council of the Town of Hilton Head Island, Amending Municipal Code Section 12-6-111, Definitions, and Section 12-6-115, Resident Beach Parking Pass Parking, to Authorize Beach Parking Permits for Qualified Residents in Beaufort County, South Carolina, South Carolina - First Reading - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]
THE AGENDA, WE HAVE THE FIRST READING OF A CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND AMENDING MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 12 DASH 11 DASH ONE 11 DEFINITIONS AND SECTION 12 DASH SIX DASH 15 RESIDENT BEACH PARKING PASS TO AUTHORIZE BEACH PARKING, PARKING PERMITS TO QUALIFIED RESIDENTS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA.THIS ITEM WAS RECENTLY, UH, PRESENTED IN AND CONSIDERED BY THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IN MAY, AND HAS VOTED TWO TO ZERO TO ADVANCE THE TOWN COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT I WILL BE VOTING WITH THE MAJORITY OF COUNSEL ON THIS.
UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION CONSISTENT WITH THE DENIAL, UM, OF THIS ORDINANCE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, KIM, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? YES, WE HAVE TWO.
UH, HILTON HAD, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS ONE OF, ONE OF, IF NOT THE ONLY, UH, BEACHFRONT COMMUNITY NOT CHARGING FOR PARKING.
AND THE MOVE TO INTRODUCE PARKING FEES WAS LONG OVERDUE AND INTENDED TO HELP MANAGE CAPACITY, GENERATE A LITTLE BIT OF REVENUE.
WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT ITEM AND BETTER SERVE ISLAND RESIDENTS.
NEARLY A MONTH AGO, ON MAY 19TH, AT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS TOOK STRONG DECISIVE POSITIONS THAT, IN FACT, SIX OF YOU, SIX OF YOU, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MR. ALFRED, UH, ACTUALLY WERE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, THE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO A BUFORD COUNTY PASS.
SO THE ISSUE REALLY IS A NO BRAINER, RIGHT? WE KNOW WHAT THE VOTE'S GONNA BE,
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BUT I, A COUPLE OF POINTS AND I'M GONNA SAVE MY OTHER REMARKS FOR YOUR NEXT ITEM.UH, COUNCILMAN, UM, BROWN, UH, EXPRESSED, UH, THE IDEA THE, HE WANTED TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR CHALLENGING THE COUNCIL TO REVISIT THE IDEA.
THE REAL ISSUE IS WHY DID THE MAYOR BRING THIS UP AT ALL PREMATURELY AND WITHOUT ANY FACTS TO SUPPORT IT? FOR THE MAYOR TO INTRODUCE THE TOPIC OF A BEACH PARKING PASS FOR BUFORT COUNTY RESIDENCE WAS NOT JUST PREMATURE, IT WAS RECKLESS.
IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE TO RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
SO AGAIN, WE KNOW THE ISSUE IS A NO-BRAINER BASED ON WHAT ALL OF YOU SAID NEARLY A MONTH AGO.
SO TAKE THE VOTE AND BE DONE WITH IT.
SO ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL BEING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION MADE BY MS. BECKER, SECOND BY MS. TURNER, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
UH, I REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR MS. BULLER FEES.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME, MA'AM? LYNN BULLER BULLER.
UM, I HAVE YOU ON, UM, THE NEXT ITEM FOR FEES.
SO AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION, SORRY, MAY I CAN MOTION IT'S A RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
MADE BY MS. BECKER AND SECONDED BY MS. TANNER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[7.g. Consideration of a Resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Hilton Head Island, Establishing the Parking Fees in Accordance with Section 12-6-113(A) of the Municipal Code of the Town of Hilton Head Island - Shawn Colin, Assistant Town Manager]
HAVE CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, UH, TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, ESTABLISHING THE PARKING FEES IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 12 DASH SIX 13 A OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE IN MAY WITH A TWO TO ZERO VOTE TO RECOMMEND TO TOWN COUNCIL WITH REVISIONS.
SEAN? UM, I, I'D LIKE TO, TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF, LIKE WE DID EARLIER, UM, IN SPEAKING WITH COUNSEL ABOUT WHERE EACH MEMBER STANDS WITH CERTAIN ASPECTS TO THE, TO THE MOTION THAT IS TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, START OFF WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, IT TALKS ABOUT A WEEKEND DAILY FEE.
MAY, MAY I JUST ASK YEAH, IF THAT'S, UM, IN, YOU CAN DO YOUR, YOU CAN DO YOUR PRESENTATION.
I WOULD DO A VERY SIMILAR EXERCISE TO WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING HERE.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE RAISED IT BEFORE, AS WELL AS WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S PROPER PROCEDURE CO COUNCIL CONVERSATION REALLY DOES HAVE TO COME AFTER A MOTION AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
THIS WAS TO HELP IDENTIFY THE MOTION TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
WELL, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING.
WHAT WERE THE MOTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE? WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF THE MEANING THE, THAT RECOMMENDATION WAS TO INSTITUTE IT'S RIGHT HERE.
THE RESOLUTION TO, UM, TO ESTABLISH FEES FOR PAID PARKING AREAS TO INCLUDE THESE PROVISIONS THAT CAME OUT OF COMMITTEE KIM.
SO AN HOURLY RATE OF $5 FOR ALL DAYS, HOURS, AND LOCATIONS OF FEES REQUIRED.
ELIMINATE THE DAILY MAXIMUM FEE FOR ALL DAYS.
AND, UM, CHARGE FOR PAID PARKING AT THE COLIGNY BEACH PARKING LOT, JUST THE BEACH PARKING LOT, UM, TO INCLUDE THE SAME $5 RATE PER HOUR AND NO DAILY MAXIMUM CONSISTENT WITH THOSE PROVISIONS ABOVE.
THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT DRAFTED RESOLUTION.
HEY, TO JUST CONFIRM THAT IS THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF US.
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF WE PUT THE RESOLUTION ON THE SCREEN.
LET ME, SO HERE IS THE RESOLUTION THAT ESTABLISH THE PARKING FEES.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE FEE ESTABLISHES THAT $5 PER HOUR, NO DAILY MAXIMUM.
UM, IT DOES ESTABLISH A FEE, UH, FOR THE KAGEY BEACH PARKING.
UM, SO THAT FEE ALSO APPLIES TO THAT PARKING LOCATION IN THE CURRENT CODE, THE BEACH PARKING AREAS ARE LISTED.
UM, BUT COLIGNY BEACH PARK WAS NOT ACTIVATED AS PART OF A PAID PARKING, UM, PROVISION IN THAT, IN THAT CODE.
UM, IF YOU OWN A RESIDENT BEACH PASS, UH, PARKING PASS, YOU CAN PARK THERE, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, REMAIN, UH, THE SAME PARKING FEES ARE CHARGED,
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UM, SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO 10 TO FIVE O'CLOCK.SO I CAN PROBABLY EASIER IF I SUMMARIZE THE, THE, THE CHANGES AND ASK COUNCIL TO DELIBERATE.
HOW'S THAT? YEAH, GO AHEAD AND, AND DO THAT.
UM, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT I DID NOT, OR DON'T RECALL ON THE MOTION WAS THE REMOVAL OF THE $20 FLAT FEE ON SATURDAY, SUNDAY.
YES, THAT WAS, YEAH, IT IS REMOVED.
IT'S JU AND THE, THE RESOLUTION IS, IS CLEAR THAT IT JUST ESTABLISHES A $5 HOURLY RATE.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, OR FLAT FEE.
SO, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA DELIBERATE THE MOTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU AND TALK ABOUT THOSE PROVISIONS THAT I JUST MENTIONED, BUT IT, WHAT WE, WHAT WE'VE CHANGED IS WE'VE REMOVED THE FLAT DAILY RATE.
WE'VE REMOVED THE MAXIMUM DAILY FEE, WE'VE ADJUSTED AN HOURLY RATE TO $5, AND UNDER THE CURRENT MOTION, IT IS TO BEGIN TO CHARGE PAR FOR PARKING AT KAGEY BEACH PARKING LOT AT THAT SAME $5 HOURLY RATE.
MR. MAYOR, I WOULD, I WOULD APPRECIATE SO THAT WE BE ORGANIZED HERE, OKAY.
IS THAT MR. COLIN DOES PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS OF ASKING COUNSEL ON THE ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY, UM, VERSUS TAKING A VOTE RIGHT NOW ON THE MOTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US.
I JUST ASK THAT YOU DO THAT SO WE CAN, YOU CAN GET THE FEEDBACK THAT WE ALL NEED IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY CHANGES.
CURTIS, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT, PLEASE.
WELL, THERE'S A QUESTION FIRST.
WAS THERE A SECOND? YES, THERE WAS MR. DE, MR. DESMO.
AND THAT'S REGULAR ORDER ANYWAY FOR US TO DECIDE SOMETHING OR TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
I DIDN'T MEAN DECIDE TO HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION AFTER THE MOTION IS FIRST AND SECONDED.
DO YOU WANT ME TO YEAH, GO AHEAD.
I MEAN, WE CAN HAVE A OPEN DISCUSSION WITH YOU ON THAT AND THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AFTERWARDS.
SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL BEACH PARKING FEE STRUCTURE.
UM, THERE'S THREE, THERE'S THREE QUESTIONS.
WE'LL SEE WHERE COUNCIL, UH, IS ALIGNED.
AND THEN WE'LL THEN WE WILL, UM, TALK ABOUT THE KLINKY BEACH LOT AS THE, AS THE FINAL ITEM.
SO THE FIRST THING, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A WEEKEND FLAT DAILY RATE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY OF $20.
DOES COUNCIL WANNA MAINTAIN THE $20 FLAT RATE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, ELIMINATE AND CHARGE AN HOURLY RATE WITH NO DAILY CAP CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION, OR IS THERE ANOTHER PROPOSAL? SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS.
I, I'M LOOKING TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD GO TO AN HOURLY RATE ON THE WEEKENDS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK THAT I THOUGHT MADE A LOT OF SENSE BECAUSE IT ALIGNS HOW PEOPLE USE THE BEACH TO HOW MUCH THEY'RE PAYING FOR, UM, TO STAY THERE, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS THE FEEDBACK.
I GO FOR AN HOUR OR TWO, PAYING $20 FLAT FEE TO GO FOR AN HOUR OR TWO DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
SO I AM, I'M TOTALLY ALIGNED TO, UH, HOURLY ON THE WEEKEND.
UM, I HAVE CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT THE CAP.
I AM OKAY REMOVING THE CAP BECAUSE THERE WAS A GREAT CONVERSATION AT THE LAST, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEED TO HAVE TURNOVER ON THE BEACH.
AND THIS IS A, A GOOD THING TO HAVE TURNOVER ON THE BEACH.
IT'S GOOD FOR OUR BUSINESSES, IT'S GOOD FOR THE BEACH EXPERIENCE, ET CETERA.
I WOULD PREFER TO LEAVE THE $3, UM, PER HOUR DURING THE WEEK AND GO TO THE FIVE HOURS ON THE WEEKEND.
SO THAT'S, UH, JUST MY PREFERENCE ON THAT, ON THOSE COMPONENTS.
MR. ER, I AGREED THAT I WOULD PREFER DURING MONDAY TO FRIDAY TO KEEP IT AT $3.
I THINK $5 ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY AND AN HOURLY RATE IS FINE.
I ALSO THINK THERE SHOULD BE A CAP BOTH DURING THE WEEK AND ON THE WEEKEND.
UM, PERHAPS NOT $20, BUT 25 MR. BROWN.
UM, YEAH, I, I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF US, UH, GOING AWAY WITH THE $20 ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, AND I'M OKAY WITH THREE BUCKS AN HOUR, UH, THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ALREADY TWO HERE THAT THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO TO FIVE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
AND, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M ALSO OPEN TO US, UH,
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NOT NECESSARILY HAVING A CAP.UM, I THINK THE TURNOVER PIECE IS IMPORTANT.
MR. DESMOND? OH, I THOUGHT I GOT TO BE LAST.
WELL, YOU KNOW, HEARING THREE OF MY COLLEAGUES SPEAK, I, I KIND OF CHANGED MY MIND.
UM, YOU KNOW, $5 AN HOUR IS FINE ALSO ON THE WEEKENDS.
$3 AN HOUR IS OKAY DURING THE WEEK.
I'M, I'M OKAY WITH SAYING IT $3 PER HOUR.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF FOLKS WANNA GO TO FIVE, MY QUESTION FOR THE STAFF IS, IS THAT MANAGEABLE TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM TO GO TO $5 AN HOUR PER, UH, ON THE WEEKENDS? IF SO, I'M OKAY WITH CHARGING HIGHER ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT IT, CAN WE CHANGE IT RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE WE'RE, I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY JUNE, WHATEVER, 17.
UM, CAN WE CHANGE IT THAT QUICKLY? I HAVE NO IDEA.
SO, UM, ANYHOW, AND THEN ALSO DOING AWAY WITH THE, UM, FLAT FEE FOR THE WEEKENDS.
UM, I CAN GO EITHER WAY ON THE CAP.
I, I THINK IF FOLKS WANNA STAY LONGER, BUT I, I'M ALSO OKAY WITH REMOVING THE CAP, SO WE HAVE SOME TURNOVER, UM, WHATEVER WORKS FOR THAT, UM, ON THE FEE.
AND I'M SORRY TO BE A LITTLE BIT SOFT ON THAT, BUT I THINK IT DEPENDS UPON THE SAS RESPONSE ON THE $5 PER HOUR ON THE WEEKENDS.
SO, UH, SEAN 2.0 AND I, WE TALK TO OUR PARKING PROVIDERS.
IT'S A RELATIVELY SIMP WELL, IT'S A RELATIVELY EASY, NO SIMPLE, NOT EASY CHANGE.
WE CAN DO IT, UM, TO HAVE VARIABLE PARKING.
WE HAVE IT TODAY, TODAY, RIGHT.
HOUR LEADER IN THE WEEK, FLAT RATE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
SO IT'S JUST A MODIFICATION THERE.
IT WILL REQUIRE US JUST TO MODIFY OUR SIGNS TO, TO, UH, INDICATE THE NEW RATE.
OH, WELL, UM, I AM GOING TO STAY CONSISTENT BECAUSE THIS IS HOW I FELT THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND HAVING SPENT YEARS TALKING ABOUT IT.
UM, I SEE NO, NO, NO CHANGE IN HOW I CAME TO MY CONCLUSION.
UM, $5 ON THE WEEKDAY AND THE WEEKEND, UM, IS WHAT I THINK IS APPROPRIATE.
AND I'VE SAID IT, UM, FOR MY REASONING.
UM, TYBEE CHARGES FOUR, AND I KNOW THAT JUST RECENTLY, MAYBE IT WAS YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE, THEIR COUNSEL CONSIDERED CHARGING A FLAT FEE OF HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR AN ANNUAL PASS.
AND SO AS I LOOK AT THE, UM, CONGESTION OF THE BEACHES, PARTICULARLY IN KIG, AND I THINK ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF THOSE SAME, UH, BEACH PARKING LOTS, UM, I WOULD PREFER PEOPLE SEE THE VALUE OF THEIR DOLLARS AND HEAD TOWARDS, UM, TYBEE INSTEAD OF, UM, HILTON HEAD.
WE SAW AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING HERE AFTER TYBEE PUT THEIR PARKING, UH, FEES IN PLACE.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO STAY AHEAD OF THAT.
UM, NOT TRYING TO STAY COMPETITIVE, COMPETITIVE WITH IT, BUT, UM, OUR BEACHES AND OUR ARE IN OUR PARKING LOTS ARE AT CAPACITY, UM, ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS.
THIS PAST WEEKEND, UM, EARLY, UM, SATURDAY, I DROVE DOWN AND THROUGH THE BEACH PARKING LOTS.
K COLONY WAS ALREADY CLOSED, YET I DROVE UP, UM, BACK COMING UP AGAIN.
AND THE OLD ENCHILADAS PARKING LOT WAS VIRTUALLY EMPTY AS WAS WILD WINGS AND OTHER PARKING.
SO, UM, FOLKS WANNA GO TO KIG.
AND, UM, I JUST THINK THAT, AND THEN YESTERDAY, WAS IT? NO.
WAS IT EARLIER TODAY? I DROVE DOWN TO SEE HOW THE KAGEY PARKING LOT LOOKED, AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR A, A FORMAL REPORT.
I KNOW WE GET THEM REGULARLY AND WRITTEN FORM, BUT HERE, HERE A REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE CYCLING THROUGH OUR, UM, PARKING LOTS.
BUT TODAY, THE, AT ONE O'CLOCK ALMOST, THERE WAS VIRTUALLY NO ONE DOWN IN THE KLA PARKING LOT.
SO ALL OF THAT MATTERS TO ME AS I THINK ABOUT THIS.
UM, THE $5 KEEPS US AHEAD OF TYBEE AND FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT HAVE STATED NOW FOR YEARS, AND MOST RECENTLY, THE LAST TIME WE VOTED ON IT, I THINK $5 WEEKDAY, WEEKEND, NO CAP.
UM, AND NO, UM, FLAT FEE IS THE WAY WE OUGHT TO BE GOING.
STEVE, ASK YOU A QUESTION, KIND OF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CLOSES AT 5:00 PM BUT IT'S STILL OPEN, RIGHT? UM, TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT, BUT BEACH RELATED AND PARKING RELATED, AND THAT'S THE CRAZINESS THAT'S GOING ON DOWN
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THERE.UM, CHARGING WHEN THE CRAZINESS IS GOING ON MAY HELP US REDUCE THE CRAZINESS THAT'S GOING ON.
UM, BUT THEN, THEN AGAIN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CHARGING UNTIL LATER IN THE LATER IN THE AFTERNOON.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW PROCEDURAL WISE WE WOULD MAKE THAT WORK.
UM, BUT I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT
NO, THAT GOES RIGHT BACK TO MY COMMENT UNDER GENERAL COMMENTS BEFORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT PATROL IS HAPPENING.
AND, UM, I WOULD ALSO, BEFORE YOU GO, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO, HEARING EVERYONE WHAT THEY SAY, IT'S, YOU KNOW, $3, $5 BOTTLE, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE OUTTA THE COMMITTEE, IT, FOR ME AND OUR COMMITTEE IT CAME OUT IS FIVE BUCKS.
BUT TO MAKE THINGS MORE SIMPLE AND SIMPLIFY IT, IF WE COULD EVEN GO TO FOUR BUCKS FOR ALL SEVEN DAYS, IT WOULD, UH, PROBABLY SIMPLIFY THINGS FOR STAFF AND, AND FOR OUR, UM, OUR CONTRACTOR A LITTLE BIT, WOULDN'T IT? OR WOULD IT NOT? I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.
WE CAN DO THREE BUCKS, FOUR BUCKS, FIVE BUCKS, AS LONG AS WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PROPERLY COMMUNICATE, POST THE SIGNAGE AND, UH, ADMINISTRATE IT.
IT'S JUST A, A WILL OF COUNSEL, YOU KNOW, THREE BUCKS DURING THE WEEK, FIVE BUCKS ON THE WEEKEND AVERAGE FOUR.
TO YOUR POINT, STEVE, I, I BELIEVE IN THAT DISCUSSION AT TYBEE, THEY'RE CHARGING 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM YEAH.
WELL, IT, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IN RELATION TO THAT IS, IS, IS, UM, FOR, I'LL, I'LL MAKE MY STATEMENTS WHAT I THINK, UM, GET RID OF THE WEEKEND, FLAT RATE FIVE BUCKS ON THE WEEKEND.
I'M, I'M, I'M NEITHER HERE NOR THERE ON THE CAPS.
UM, I, I DO WANT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT TURNOVER RATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE TIME PEOPLE ARE SPENDING THERE, BECAUSE THAT'LL HELP ME DRIVE THAT, UM, DECISION.
AND I, PART OF THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE FACT THAT WE, WE DO PUT IN PLACE THAT COMMITTEE AND START LOOKING AT THESE OTHER ASPECTS OF, YOU KNOW, DO WE GO LATER THAN FIVE O'CLOCK? YOU KNOW, HOW DOES IT HELP WITH, WITH SECURING THE AREA? UM, WHAT TIMES ARE THOSE INCIDENTS HAPPENING? OR IS IT AFTER, YOU KNOW, IS WOULD IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE OR NOT, BECAUSE THINGS OPEN UP.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT ASPECT OF IT, MAYOR, UH, IT'S OUR RESIDENTS, THEY'RE GOING TO THE BEACH LATE IN THE AFTERNOON AND THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANYWAY.
RIGHT? BUT FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER ACTIVITIES, THESE KIDS COMING OFF FROM OFF ISLAND AND USING OUR PARKING STRUCTURE AND CREATING ISSUES, YEAH.
UH, IT, IT MAY SOLVE THAT OR HELP THAT.
WE DO HAVE SOME DATA, UH, SEAN AND HIS TEAM HAD PUT TOGETHER, BUT THERE IS SOME, UM, SOME PRETTY TELLTALE SIGNS IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT PARKING AREAS AND WHO'S UTILIZING THEM, UH, AND THE OCCUPANCY.
UM, MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE, THERE IS THE AVERAGE, WHAT THEY CALL THE WELL TIME, UM, BUT AVERAGE AMOUNT OF TIME SOMEONE PARKS IN THE SPACE MM-HMM
AND THEN LEAVES OR, OR MOVES TO A DIFFERENT SPACE, I GUESS.
BUT YOU CAN SEE COLIGNY, UH, WITH 404 SPACES, UM, WHAT THE OCCUPANCY IS THERE WITH TURNOVER.
SO THE OCCUPANCY EXCEEDS THE NUMBER OF SPACES BECAUSE THEY'RE USED SPACES ARE USED MULTIPLE TIMES PER DAY.
UM, BUT, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT TOTAL OCCUPANCY BETWEEN COLIGNY AND CHAPLAIN, UM, YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE PARK AT CHAPLAIN AND WHAT PER AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL OCCUPANCY ARE RESIDENT PERMITS.
SO THIS GIVES A PRETTY GOOD SNAPSHOT OF OF THAT.
AND, AND I KNOW IN TALKING WITH SEAN, AND HE'LL, I DON'T PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, BUT, UM, THERE, THE LOTS AREN'T FULL THAT OFTEN RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT I'LL LET HIM JUMP IN AND GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, SIR, DOES ANY OF THIS DATA ANYWHERE THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS GIVE US TIME OF DAY? IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN ARE THE RESIDENTS GOING TO THE BEACH VERSUS THE TOURIST? SO I THINK IT'D BE PRETTY IMPORTANT FOR US TO, TO KNOW IF OUR RESIDENTS ARE USING THAT FACILITY LATE IN THE AFTERNOON OR ALL DAY.
SO WE DO HAVE RAW, THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF RAW DATA BEHIND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE ON THE SCREEN.
AND, AND, AND YES, WE COULD TAKE, TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THAT DATA TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THE RESIDENTS ARE, THIS IS LOOKING AT IT MIDNIGHT TO 11:59 PM EVERY DAY IS WHAT THIS DATE IS CALCULATING.
SO IT'S NOT JUST SO TO THE POINT ABOUT WHEN THE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE PARKS, WHEN, WHEN THE, WHEN THE COLLECTION STOPS, WHEN THE FEES GO AWAY AT 5:00 PM OR BEFORE 7:00 AM THEY'RE STILL SHOWING UP IN HERE.
THESE, THIS IS, EVERYBODY IS COMING THROUGH.
THIS ALSO COUNTS THOUGH CARS THAT MAYBE ARE CYCLING THROUGH THE LOT.
AND SO THE CAMERAS ARE JUST PICKING UP THE CAR.
WE DO THEN TRACK, TO SEAN'S POINT TO THE QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR ASKED, UH, WE
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DO TRACK DWELL TIME AS PART OF THIS.UH, IT'S GENERALLY ABOUT TWO HOURS THAT PEOPLE ARE SPENDING IN OUR BEACH PARKS.
SOME OF THAT'S GONNA BE THOSE THAT ARE DRIVING THROUGH, COULDN'T FIND A PARKING SPOT.
THERE'S GONNA BE OTHERS LIKE MY SON WHO WAS THERE WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND FOR FIVE HOURS A COUPLE WEEKENDS AGO.
SO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
AND, BUT THE AVERAGE DWELL TIME, TWO HOURS IS WHAT WE'RE FINDING.
AND ONE, AND AT ONE POINT I MADE TO THE COMMITTEE, UM, AND I WANNA MAKE IT HERE, THE, THE TOWN, UM, AS PART OF A, A BEACH PROGRAM, BEACH MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, UM, AND SOME GRANT FUNDING THAT THEY RECEIVED MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, SEVERAL DECADES AGO, WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, UM, X AMOUNT OF PUBLIC PARKING.
AT ONE POINT IT WAS 3,500 SPACES.
AND THROUGH DISCUSSION WITH THE PERMITTING AGENCY, UH, IT WAS NEGOTIATED DOWN TO 1400 BECAUSE THE DETERMINATION WAS MADE THAT EACH PARKING SPACE EFFECTIVELY IS TWO AND A HALF PARKING SPACES OVER THE COURSE OF ANY GIVEN DAY.
SO IT REDU REDUCED THAT REQUIREMENT DOWN TO ONLY A 40% REQUIREMENT.
CHAPLAIN PARK INITIALLY WHEN IT WAS PURCHASED, THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE TO COMPLY WITH THAT, THOSE REQUIREMENTS, AND HAVE A LOT OF PARKING IN THAT AREA.
SO, SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, IT, IT'S STILL CONSISTENT, RIGHT? THE AVERAGE STAY IS TWO HOURS OR MAYBE A LITTLE LESS.
AND I AGREE, I MADE COMMIT, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE.
I'M LIKE, I MIGHT GO TO THE BEACH FOR AN HOUR AND I LOVE IT, BUT I JUST KIND OF GET BORED.
RIGHT? AND, UH, BUT MY WIFE OR MY SISTER COULD STAY THERE ALL DAY LONG, RIGHT? SO, BUT THE AVERAGE IS A COUPLE HOURS.
UM, SO I, IF I CAN JUST FINISH YEAH, YEAH.
JUST, UM, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS THAT, UM, I BELIEVE IN NO CHARGE AT KAGEY AGAIN, UM, AS YOU SAID, LIMIT THE CHANGES, MS. TURNER.
THREE, THREE BUCKS DURING THE WEEK, FIVE BUCKS ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, AND WITH THIS INFORMATION ABOUT TURNOVER, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK A CAP IS NECESSARY, UM, BUT TIME WILL TELL ON THAT AS WELL.
SO, MS. BECKER, I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION.
IF THERE'S ANY WAY FOR US TO SEPARATE OUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING AFTER WHATEVER TIME WE'VE DESIGNATED FIVE O'CLOCK, WHERE WE'RE STOPPING TO CHARGE, AND THEN THE REST OF THAT TIME? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF THE DATA TO BE ABLE TO, TO LOOK AT.
BUT YOU MEAN BETWEEN RESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE TO THOSE WITH RESIDENT PASS AND THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE RESIDENT BATHS OR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK WHERE WE'RE NO LONGER CHARGING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OF THAT SAY 11,000 THOUGH, OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS, HOW MANY ARE COMING AFTER FIVE AND WHO ARE COMING BEFORE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NOW, OBVIOUSLY.
I THINK A REAL, A VERY IMPORTANT DATA POINT WOULD BE HOW MANY EMPLOYEES FROM THE PLAZA ARE PARKING IN THAT PARKING LOT.
AND I TELL YOU WHY I THINK THAT'S THIS WAY.
IF THERE'S A A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO PARK SOMEWHERE AND THEY'RE, AND I HEAR THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK IN THEIR, YOU DON'T WANT 'EM TO PARK IN THEIR, WHERE THE BUSINESS IS.
SO PARK OVER IN THE PARKING LOT AND IF THERE'S A A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES PARKING THERE, UH, THAT'S A HUNDRED SPOTS THAT THE TOWN CAN'T FLIP FOR THE BEACH.
IT'S ALSO A HUNDRED SPOTS THAT THE PLAZA CAN'T FLIP AND GAIN REVENUE FROM.
AND WE NEED TO SOMEHOW TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT THOSE EMPLOYEES PARK AT USCB AND THE PLAZA PROVIDE A SHUTTLE THAT RUNS ALL THE TIME FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
AND THAT WAY IT FREES THAT AND THEY CAN PARK THERE AFTER FIVE.
BUT IT FREES THAT BEACH UP, UH, FOR TURNOVER.
AND YOU KILLED MORE THAN ONE BIRD WITH ONE STONE.
SO, UM, AND IT'S A, IT'S A WIN FOR THE PLAZA 'CAUSE THEY GET MORE CLIENTS.
IT'S A WIN FOR THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS ON THE OUTSIDE, I HAVEN'T HEARD THEM, BUT I'VE HEARD OTHER PEOPLE TELL ME THEY'RE SAYING THIS IS THAT THEY'RE COMPLAINING THAT, OH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA CROWD THE PARKING LOT AND THEY'RE GONNA PARK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
WELL, IF WE MOVE THE EMPLOYEES TO USCB THERE, THERE'S WHATEVER, A HUNDRED MORE SPOTS CLEAR.
AND SO THAT WILL ALSO BE A WIN FOR THE RESIDENTS IF THEY THINK THAT'S AN ISSUE.
OTHERWISE WE HAVE REMEDY FOR THEM PARKING IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
I GUESS THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THE LITTLE ANECDOTAL STORY ABOUT MY OBSERVATIONS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF TOURS AROUND THE ISLAND AND THE BEACH PARKS AND THE FACT THAT IN KAGEY, UM, ON A WORKDAY, THERE WERE VERY FEW
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IN THAT PARKING LOT AND THAT THE WILD WINGS AND THE, UM, ENCHILADAS WAS, WERE VIRTUALLY EMPTY.IF I, IF I COULD COME BACK TO US GOING DOWN THE LINE AND SAYING OUR POSITION ON VARIOUS THINGS, I, I THINK WE COVERED THE FEE, BUT I, I THINK YOU ADDED SOMETHING ABOUTY AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE GONE DOWN THE LINE ON KIG YET.
WE HAVEN'T GOT, YEAH, IF I COULD SUMMARIZE THE FIRST THREE, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS BEFORE YOU ELIMINATES THE DAILY MAXIMUM, IT ELIMINATES THE FLAT RATE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS MORE ALIGNMENT ON COUNCIL TO ELIMINATE THE FLAT RATE ON THE WEEKENDS.
MORE ALIGNMENT TO REMOVE THE DAILY CAP AND JUST GO TO A STRAIGHT HOURLY RATE WHERE IT, IT, IT APPEARS THERE'S MORE ALIGNMENT TO HAVE A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, $3 FEE AT ALL PAID PARKING AREAS AND A $5 HOURLY FEE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
AM I SUMMARIZING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S WHAT I HEARD, YES.
'CAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE A AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION THAT'S MADE.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION WAS THAT, THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE COMMITTEE WAS TO UTILIZE THAT FIVE A $5, UM, HOURLY RATE WITHOUT A CAP OR DAILY FEE AT THE KIG BEACH PARK.
AND SO IF WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCIL IS ON ACTIVATING THAT FOR PAID PARKING OR MAINTAINING IT AS IT IS, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
UM, I'M NOT ALIGNED TO CHARGING FOR IGNIA AT THIS TIME.
DO I THINK WE NEED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? YES, I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY DO.
BUT THE PRIOR TOWN COUNCIL, AND I WAS NOT PART OF THE PRIOR TOWN COUNCIL, BUT THE PRIOR TOWN COUNCIL AGREED TO KEEP IT FREE FOR A YEAR.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO LIVE INTO THAT.
I ALSO DON'T THINK WE'RE PREPARED.
AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION THAT WE JUST HAD TODAY SHOWS THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARED.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOLUTIONS FOR BUSINESSES OF HAVING SHUTTLES AT USCB.
UM, AND SO I I ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WE SAID WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH FROM THE BEACH, UH, PARKING PROGRAM.
AND IT SAYS THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO PROMOTE THE EFFECTIVE USE OF PARKING RESOURCES AND ENSURE THE PUBLIC SAFETY, ACCESSIBILITY, AND CONVENIENCE OF BEACHGOERS WHILE MINIMIZING THE ADVERSE EFFECTS OF THE NEIGHBORING ENVIRONMENT.
AND I THINK IT'S THAT LAST PIECE THAT WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO.
UH, WE NEED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THROUGH THE FINES THAT WE HAVE NOW, THE ADMINISTRATIVE FINES WE'VE IMPLEMENTED AND TOWING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, THAT WE CAN MANAGE PARKING, UM, ESPECIALLY DOWN IN KIG.
AND WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING A PARKING PROGRAM.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE CAN HANDLE THAT.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE THESE TWO PURCHASES OF THESE BUILDINGS IN THE AREA, AND WE HAVEN'T FINALIZED OUR STRATEGY ON HOW WE'RE GONNA USE 'EM.
SO WE'VE GOT BUFFALO WILD WINGS, WE DO HAVE SOME PARKING THERE, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING LONG TERM WITH THAT? IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE FOR MORE BEACH PARKING? AND IF SO, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING? UH, WE'VE GOT ENCHILADAS, UH, WHICH WE HAVE PARKING AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME MORE PARKING SPOTS THERE.
ARE WE UTILIZING THAT FOR BEACH PARKING? IS OUR SHUTTLE GONNA BE PICKING PEOPLE UP? THESE ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED, I BELIEVE BEFORE WE, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY TYPE OF STRATEGY IN, IN KIG.
AND WE NEED TO GIVE TIME FOR THE BUSINESSES TO PREPARE FOR THE CHANGE AS WELL.
WE TOLD THEM IT WASN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME TO PREPARE, BUT WE NEED TO, UM, HONOR THAT.
AND THEN AS YOU THINK ABOUT THESE TWO, UM, PROPERTIES WHERE WE COULD ADD ALL THESE ADDITIONAL PARKING, UM, IS THAT WHAT WE REALLY WANNA DO? YOU KNOW, I HAVE REALLY BEEN STRUCK BY WHAT AMBER KUHN HAS SAID, AND THIS REALLY STRUCK ME ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT, IT'S NOT ABOUT BEACH PARKING, IT'S ABOUT THE CAPACITY ON THE BEACH.
AND SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT DO WE WANNA CONTINUE TO ADD A LOT OF ADDITIONAL PARKING AND WHAT IS THAT BEACH EXPERIENCE GONNA BE? DO WE WANNA BE ALL CROWDED IN THERE? UM, YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE KIND OF EXPERIENCE WE WANT? AND I THINK THOSE ARE SOME OF THE STRATEGIC QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ASK AND ANSWER BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN KIG.
I SHARED THAT AT THE CSPS MEETING, UM, WHEN THIS TOPIC CAME UP.
I'VE SHARED THIS IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WELL.
AND, AND MY POSITION HAS NOT CHANGED.
UH, MY VIEW ON THE KIG PARKING CHARGE IS THAT THAT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT MATTER.
UH, BUT THE COUNCIL A YEAR AGO DECIDED THAT IT WANTED TO APPOINT A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THAT AFTER THERE HAD BEEN APPROXIMATELY, UH, A SEASON OR A YEAR OF EXPERIENCE ON WHICH THEY COULD BASE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF CURRENT ACTION THERE.
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I AGREE WITH WHAT WAS JUST SAID.I THINK, I THINK THAT I AGREE WITH THE OTHER THREE.
UH, WE SHOULD, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PUT A, UH, AN EFFECTIVE DATE ON IT, WHATEVER THAT IS OF MAKING A DECISION, UH, AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF WHEN IT GOES INTO ACTION, UH, FOR COLIGNY, WHATEVER DATE THAT IS, WHATEVER WE DECIDE WE NEED TO PUT IT IN.
IT DOESN'T JUST KEEP GETTING KICKED DOWN THE, DOWN THE ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT THIS SEASON OUGHTA BE THE WAY IT IS.
OUGHTA STAY THIS WAY, MS. BRYSON.
I I THINK I'VE BEEN CLEAR THAT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF, UM, UH, OF THE VOLUME OF USE IN THE CLINGY BEACH AREA, INCLUDING THE IMPACT ON THE BEACHES.
I AGREE WITH MS. HUNTER ABOUT THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SEEING WHERE FOLKS ARE PARKING AND ALL THE ACTIVITY THERE.
UM, WHEN, WHEN THE, BLESS ITS HEART, THE, THE WHALE WAS BEACHED, IT TURNED INTO A CIRCUS DOWN THERE.
UM, AND THAT'S SO UNFORTUNATE.
UM, BUT IT'S LIKE A CIRCUS DOWN THERE A LOT OF TIMES.
SO WE DO NEED TO GET BETTER CONTROL OF THE SITUATION THERE FOR MANY REASONS.
UM, AND WE CAN'T ALLOW DESTRUCTION OF OUR PROPERTY AND WE CAN'T ALLOW OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE NOT REFLECTIVE OF WHO WE ARE.
I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD MORE QUICKLY THAN WE ARE.
UM, I'VE, I'VE ASKED FOR A WHILE NOW ABOUT A COMPROMISE ON CHARGING FOR PARKING AT KLINKY.
AND I LOOK BACK AT THE MINUTES FROM, UM, AUGUST 19TH, 2024, COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
I WAS SERVING ON THE COMMITTEE AT THE TIME.
UM, AND MY MOTION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH RESOLUTION OF ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT.
I WON'T READ ALL OF 'EM AT THIS TIME, BUT NUMBER EIGHT WAS EMPLOYEE PARKING FOR EMPLOYEES OF BUSINESS LOCATED IN K NEY BEACH, POPE AVENUE AREA, BE PROVIDED THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PARK AND RIDE PROGRAM.
EITHER THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA, BEAUFORT, HILTON ED CAMPUS CROSSINGS PARK, OR SOME TOWN OWNED PROPERTY THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE AREAS DIRECTLY AROUND THE KAN BEACH PARK.
ADDITIONALLY, A CORRESPONDING SHUTTLE SERVICE WILL NEED TO BE CONTRACTED TO MEET THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS OF THESE EMPLOYEES.
'CAUSE AT THE TIME, WE WERE SEARCHING FOR SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE, UM, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE YET.
UM, AND, AND I SAID, UM, AT THE RECENT COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING THAT I STILL SUPPORT CHARGING FOR PARKING AT K CLICKY, BUT WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO DETERMINE HOW WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THAT.
AND I ALSO ASK FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COMMITTEE THAT THE PRIOR TOWN COUNCIL AGREED TO APPOINT.
UM, AND AT THE TIME I URGED THAT THAT COMMITTEE NOT ONLY INCLUDE BUSINESSES AND TOWN STAFF, BUT ALSO RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THAT PARKING.
UM, AND, AND, AND I URGE THE MAYOR TO GO AHEAD AND APPOINT THAT COMMITTEE AND LET'S GET STARTED WORKING ON IT.
UM, I, I KNOW MR. BROWN HAS RAISED THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE IS THAT WE CAN'T COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES IN DATA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T COLLECT DATA PREVIOUSLY.
UM, BUT WE HAVE, UH, UH, A LOT OF DATA NOW AS SHOWN ON THAT SCREEN PREVIOUSLY IT STARTED COLLECTING IN MARCH.
UM, AND THERE'S EVIDENTLY LOTS OF DATA BEHIND THAT THAT CAN BE USEFUL.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMITTEE COULD USE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF HOW WE SHOULD MANAGE PARKING IN THE KLINKY AREA.
UM, BUT WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING.
I DON'T, I'M NOT READY TO DO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
BUT I'M READY TO PROCEED WITH DOING SOMETHING AND A-S-A-P-I AGREE WITH MS. HUNTER, MS. BECKER, THANK YOU.
AND, AND I'M NOT COUNTING VOTES, I WAS JUST WAITING TO LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUES
UM, BUT WHAT I, THERE'S LIKE, UH, COUNCIL AND WOMAN, UH, BRYSON, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ASKED OVER TIME.
AND ONE OF THEM HAD TO DO WITH A REQUEST FOR A SURVEY.
AND THAT SURVEY I HAD ASKED BE GIVEN TO THE EMPLOYERS DOWN IN THE KAEGY PLAZA SO THAT WHILE IT WON'T, IT MIGHT CHANGE FROM THE DAY THEY COMPLETE IT TO THE DAY WE RECEIVE IT, AND THEN CHANGE AGAIN WHEN WE START TO DEBATE IT.
BUT AT LEAST SOME SENSE OF THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THEY HAVE, THEY'RE, UM, SHIFTS THAT THEY'RE ON.
UM, AND HOW MANY, UM, ARE PROJECTED OR ARE ON ISLAND RESIDENTS VERSUS THOSE WHO COME FROM OFF ISLAND.
'CAUSE I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
WE DON'T CHARGE AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK.
SO AS THERE ARE SHIFTS THAT STARTS AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK WHEREIN, UM, THE EMPLOYEES CERTAINLY HAVE FREE PARKING NO MATTER WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM AND HOW MANY OF THEM ARE COMING FROM ON ISLAND BECAUSE THOSE FOLKS HAVE PER HOUSEHOLD TWO FREE PASSES.
AND SO THEY CLEARLY HAVE ABILITY TO PARK, UM, A IGNIA
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IF IT WERE BEING CHARGED, BUT FOR FREE.AND SO THAT WOULD BE, THOSE WOULD BE IMPORTANT DATA POINTS TO KNOW.
I'VE ASKED, I KNOW HOW MANY TIMES FOR IT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, A SET OF DATA THAT WE COULD USE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND.
AND THEN I'LL SAY FOR THE THIRD TIME, USING MY ANTIDOTAL INFORMA, UM, UM, OB OBSERVATIONS THAT THE, UM, FREE PARKING, ADDITIONAL FREE PARKING THAT WE'VE USED TAXPAYERS MONEY TO PURCHASE OVER AT OUT WILD WINGS AND ENCHILADAS.
AND IF I RECALL THAT THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE, UM, BEACH PARKING, UM, WHEN WE DID IT, THAT'S WHAT WE TOLD PEOPLE.
SO THERE'S ABUNDANT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, VISITORS AND RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES TO BE PARKING, UM, WHAT TO BE PARKING.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW FROM, AND I KNOW IT'S PART OF THE DATA THAT YOU HAD UP HERE ON THE SCREEN, BUT MAYBE WE CAN HEAR A LITTLE BIT FROM CO FROM, FROM, UM, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THE NEIGHBORS BE CONCERNED AS, AS, UM, COUNCILMAN DEONE MENTIONED ABOUT PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN, IN CONGESTION AND DRIVEWAYS BEING LOCKED AND THAT SORT OF THING.
HOW MANY REAL OFFENSES HAVE HAPPENED DOWN IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS OF THAT SORT THAT ARE RELATED TO PARKING IN KAGEY? UM, AND I REALIZE IN SAYING THAT THERE'S ANOTHER VARIABLE THERE THAT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO CHARGE, BUT IN THE FUTURE THERE COULD BE.
AND SO NONE OF THIS DATA IS GONNA BE PERFECT, BUT YOU CAN AT LEAST, UM, BEGIN TO LOOK AT THAT AND START TO MAKE SOME, UM, ANALYSIS AND, AND JUDGMENT.
UM, AS TO THE QUESTION AT HAND, EVEN THOUGH I DO WANNA HEAR THAT INFORMATION, WE MADE A PROMISE, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO KEEPING MY PROMISES, UM, FOR A YEAR TO THE COMMENT OF, UM, A DATE CERTAIN WHEN WE WOULD BEGIN TO CHARGE.
I BELIEVE THAT IF WE WERE NOT TO CHARGE WITH ACCEPTING THIS, UM, RESOLUTION, THEN WE SHOULD BE CHARGING NO LATER THAN THE START DATE OF FEE COLLECTION IN 2026.
DID THAT MAKE SENSE? BUT, UM, I I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER NOW OR LATER HOW MANY OFFENSES WE'VE BEEN DOCUMENTING INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHAT, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THERE IS THAT AT, AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE HAVE A REPORT TO CSPS ON THE PROGRAM AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THAT'S, IF, IF YOU COULD HELP ME GET THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, I'LL, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
UH, I, I TOO, AS I STATED EARLIER, UH, DON'T AGREE WITH, UM, CHARGING FOR, FOR PARKING A COEN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING A DATE ON IT BECAUSE THAT, THAT INSINUATES THAT WE ARE GOING TO CHARGE WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION GOING INTO IT.
SO I, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, BUT, UM, I, I THINK, UM, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
HAVE WE DEALT WITH THE OTHER ISSUES? THE OH YEAH, SEAN, HAVE WE? YEAH.
SO IF THE CONSENSUS WAS TO CHARGE IT KIG, THEN IT WAS A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT THAT WAS THE FINAL, FINAL QUESTION FOR THE RESOLUTION.
MAYOR, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UM, FOR THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
UM, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION SO FAR, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE'RE GONNA NEED A WHOLE NEW RESOLUTION.
UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF US, I THINK IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
AND THEN ALSO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PREVIOUS RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024.
WHAT REMAINS AND WHAT DOES NOT REMAIN, AND WHAT PERHAPS IS INCLUDED IN THE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE DONE LAST YEAR, BECAUSE THE, THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF US DOESN'T INCLUDE A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP, UM, FROM THE ONE ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER, 2024.
SO I THINK WE NEED A CLEAN RESOLUTION, UH, MOVING FORWARD BASED UPON OUR AGREEMENT TONIGHT.
MR. COLTRAN, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? UM, SO THE, IF I HAVE WRITTEN THIS DOWN CORRECTLY, THE CONSENSUS AS I'VE HEARD IT THUS FAR IS NO DAILY MAXIMUM, NO FLAT RATE ON WEEKEND, $3 PER HOUR ON WEEKDAYS, $5 PER HOUR ON WEEKENDS, WE DO NOT BEGIN TO CHARGE AT KAGEY.
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THE EXISTING RESOLUTION SECTION ONE REQUIRES A CHANGE TO, UM, STATE $3 PER HOUR ON WEEKENDS AND $5 PER HOUR ON WEEK, NO WEEKDAYS, AND $5 PER HOUR ON WEEKENDS.UH, SECTION TWO WOULD BE DELETED BECAUSE THAT DEALS WITH CHARGING AT KIG.
SECTION THREE IS JUST A, A RECITATION OF THE FACT THAT, UH, RESIDENTS POSSESSING PAID PARKING PASSES PARK IN ANY SPACE, IN ANY PAID PARKING AREA, FREE OF CHARGE.
UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE SAY THAT THE HOURS BEING 6:00 AM TO 10:00 PM CHANGES.
UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD A CHANGE TO THE HOURS FOR WHICH PARKING IS CHARGED.
THAT BEING 7:00 AM TO 5:00 PM THIS RETAINS THE TOWN MANAGER'S ABILITY TO ALTER PAID PARKING, UH, TO SERVICE SPECIAL EVENTS.
AND SO BASED ON THAT, REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE CHANGES WE WOULD NEED WOULD BE TO DELETE NUMBER TWO RATE OF, NOW LET'S GET DELETED.
WELL, IT, LET ME, LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION IN, IN TERMS OF GOVERNANCE.
YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE FIRST MOTION FAILS OR IF THERE'S AMENDMENT TO THE FIRST MOTION TO, TO REFLECT THAT WHICH COUNCIL HAS SHOWN ITS DIRECTIVE TO, WOULD THAT NOT SHOW THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL IS GOING AND THEN THE TOWN STAFF WOULD PREPARE THE DOCUMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MOTION AND THE VOTE? YEAH.
MAYOR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT ENFORCEMENT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND, AND, AND I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT LANGUAGE.
THAT WAS IN THE, WHAT WAS THAT? SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2024 RESOLUTION, FOR INSTANCE.
UM, IT SAYS PARKING AT TOWN, PAID PARKING AREA IS LOCATED WITHIN THE POPE AVENUE BUSINESS CORRIDOR SHALL BE FREE OF CHARGE.
AND THEN IT SAYS PARKING AT CHAPLAIN BEACH PARK SHALL BE FREE OF CHARGE DURING ALL SEASONS FOR YOUTH RECREATIONAL SPORTS.
WHAT'S HAPPENS TO THOSE? IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT DRAFT.
THE YOUTH RECREATIONAL SPORTS AT CHAPLAIN IS IN THE, IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE NOW ORDINANCE IN IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS DONE DOUBLY WHAT ABOUT FREE PARKING AT THE OTHER PARKING AREAS, UM, ALONG THE UNDEFINED POPE AVENUE BUSINESS CARD.
IN, IN FACT, THAT IS THE REALITY.
I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO INCORPORATE, UM, I IT CHANGES, MAYOR.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SECTION THREE RESIDENT BEACH PARKING PASSES, WHICH IS THE PROVISION THAT PROVIDES FREE TO VEHICLES FOR HOUSEHOLD.
UM, I KNOW THAT'S, WE, WE CHANGED THE BUDGET, UH, ORDINANCE TO REFLECT THAT.
BUT IS THAT ALSO IN THE CODE AT NO FREE AT FREE PARKING WHEN WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DETERMINE FEES BY RESOLUTION.
NOW, NOW YOU SEE I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, MR. MAYOR.
THE, THE, THE, THE FREE PARKING FOR BEACH PASS HOLDERS IS, IS IN THE TEXT OF THE RESOLUTION.
WHAT'S IT'S IN THE, IT WAS IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IT'S IN THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY.
I THINK WHAT MS. BRYSON IS ASKING IS, WHERE IS THE TEXT THAT SAYS RESIDENT BEACH PARKING PASSES ARE ISSUED WITHOUT CHARGE? WAS, WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? SO THAT'S IN SECTION ONE, WHICH WE WERE AMENDING REGARDING THE FEES.
SO SECTION ONE THEN HAS SUBSECTIONS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO ANY OUT, YOU CAN SEE WHY IT'S VERY CONFUSING.
AND I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OUR ENFORCEMENT ABILITY IF WE SAY THE SENSE OF THE COUNCIL IS TO DO X, Y, AND Z, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A RESOLUTION ACTUALLY DOING THAT TO ADOPT TONIGHT.
SO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT'S BEING ASKED HERE.
I GUESS THE WAY I'M TRYING TO INTERNALIZING IT IS WE'RE NOT REPLACING THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT.
WE'RE REPLACING SPECI PARTICULAR ASPECTS OF IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S REFLECTED HERE IN OUR RESOLUTION, NOT A WHOLESALE CHANGE.
SO THIS, THIS GETS INCORPORATED AS A CHANGE TO WHAT WE APPROVED PREVIOUSLY.
I WISH THAT WERE THE CASE, BUT YOU WOULD DO THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
THIS APPEARS AS THOUGH WE'RE IGNORING THE ONE
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ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER, 2024 AND WE'RE ADOPTING A NEW ONE.YOU DON'T INCORPORATE ANYTHING BY REFERENCE, AND YOU DON'T SAY YOU'RE AMENDING THE SEPTEMBER, 2024 WHEN YOU'RE ADOPTING A WHOLE NEW RESOLUTION.
MAY I AMEND MY MOTION TO SAY THAT WE ARE IN INCORPORATING THIS? I WANNA, I WANNA ASK CURTIS ABOUT HIS INPUT ON WHAT WAS JUST STATED.
WELL, UN UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUE AND I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIND IT.
UM, I, I WANNA LOOK AT WHAT WE DID IN THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE DID INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE THINGS AND, UM, DOES AMENDING IT CREATE ANY ISSUES WITH ENFORCEMENT? NO.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS THAT WHERE, WHERE WHAT THIS SAYS IS THAT SPECIFICALLY TO THE QUESTION OF RESIDENT PARKING PASS HOLDERS, THIS SAYS THEY PARK FOR NOTHING.
HOW THEY GET THE RESIDENT PARKING PASS I THINK IS HANDLED ELSEWHERE.
BUT, BUT, BUT NO, I, I DON'T THINK IT DOES.
OKAY, MS. BECKER, I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO, UM, TO INCO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD ADD, INCORPORATING TODAY'S RESOLUTION INTO, UM, INTO OUR PREVIOUS AGREEMENTS.
I, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU NOT DO THAT BECAUSE THERE IT'S ALL CONFLICTS THEN
IT'S NOT ALL THAT'S, EXCUSE ON FOR A SECOND.
IF I, IF I COULD ASK FOR THE CHATTER TO STOP IN THE ROOM, PLEASE.
JUST, IT, IT'S DISTRACTING IF WE'RE TRYING TO LISTEN TO OTHERS.
IF, IF WE COULD, CAN I HAVE THREE MINUTES? SURE.
SO SINCE YOU'RE GIVING US THREE MINUTES, CURTIS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
BECAUSE THEY'RE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
SO KIM, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY AT THIS TIME SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? WE DO.
WHAT I JUST WITNESSED WAS REMARKABLE.
FIRST OF ALL, IN ALL DUE RESPECT, HERE WE ARE JUNE 17TH, A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE OFFICIAL START OF SUMMER IN YOUR DEBATING AND DISCUSSING BEACH PARKING FEES.
THIS DISCUSSION AND DEBATE SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN JANUARY, PERHAPS FEBRUARY, BUT JUNE 17TH.
SECONDLY, WHAT WE JUST WITNESSED WAS YOU COULD CARE LESS WHAT THE PEASANTS THINK BECAUSE YOU'VE ALL TELEGRAPHED EXACTLY THROUGH THE MAYOR'S DIRECTION EXACTLY HOW YOU'RE GONNA VOTE.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO VOTE WHICHEVER WAY YOU WANT, BUT YOU'VE DONE THAT AND THEN YOU INVITE THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK.
YOU'VE NEVER DONE THAT IN MY UNDERSTAND OR MY BELIEF EVER BEFORE.
YOU WENT DOWN THE ROAD AND EVERYONE TOLD US HOW THEY'RE GONNA VOTE.
AND THEN, OH, LET'S TAKE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
SIX OF YOU WHO ARE AT THAT MAY 19TH PUBLIC MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO INCREASE TURNOVER AT BEACH PARKING LOTS.
SINCE OUR BEACHES ARE SO CROWDED, COUNCIL MEMBER STEVE DESIMONE NOTED, WE NEED MORE TURNOVER SO THAT MORE PEOPLE CAN ENJOY OUR BEACHES.
AND THAT LOGIC LEADS ME TO BELIEVE YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.
'CAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA VOTE THAT A $5 PER HOUR CHARGE IS JUSTIFIED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
AS WELL AS FOR CHARGING AT KIG, OUR BIGGEST BEACH PARKING LOT, WHICH IS NOW WELL, HAS BEEN FREE TO.
ALL RIGHT, PAT PATSY BRYSON SPOKE ABOUT BUDGET ISSUES.
IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE TOWN, ACCORDING TO THE ISLAND PACKET, IS CONSIDERING HIRING A FULL-TIME MANAGER FOR ITS PARKING PROGRAM.
NEWS TO ME AT $108,000 A YEAR, REALLY? AND THEN HOW LONG BEFORE THE MANAGER NEEDS AN ASSISTANT AT 60,000 A YEAR, YOU FACTOR IN FRINGE BENEFITS THAT WOULD CONSUME A BIG CHUNK OF YOUR PROJECTED BUDGET REVENUES OF 650,000, WOULDN'T IT? AND I HEARD MR. SEAN COLLIN REFER TO THE TOWN'S PARKING MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT.
HOW MUCH ARE WE PAYING THIS CONSULTANT? WHERE DOES IT END? YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE ANY MONEY WITH THIS PROGRAM.
SO MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES YOU'RE GONNA MAKE, WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
LOOK AT THE DATA AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND BRING THIS ISSUE BACK PERHAPS IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, NOT THREE DAYS BEFORE SUMMER.
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I, GOOD AFTERNOON.UM, ASHLEY PHILLIPS INDIGO RUN.
UM, FIRST I WANNA SAY THANK YOU, MARY MAYOR PERRY FOR ACKNOWLEDGING WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS CRIME ISSUES HERE ON THE ISLAND AND WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO GET ANSWERS FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
AND WE NEED THEIR HELP AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK WITH THEM AND GET THESE PROBLEMS RESOLVED.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOME REAL SERIOUS ISSUES, UM, REGARDING THE PARKING, I THINK IT SHOULD BE $5 AN HOUR, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 365 DAYS A YEAR IN EVERY SINGLE PARKING LOT, INCLUDING KAGEY WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR KAGEY.
I, I HEARD WHAT EVERYBODY SAID TODAY, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME LOGISTIC THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES AND ALL THAT MAKES SENSE.
I THINK WE NEED TO GET SOME, UH, TROLLEYS GOING AND THINGS TO HELP WITH THE, UH, EMPLOYEES.
UM, AND, UH, WANTED TO SAY WE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN OFF SEASON ANYMORE.
UM, WE HAVE VISITORS ALL YEAR LONG AND WHICH MEANS THE PARKING FACILITIES ARE USED ALL, ALL YEAR LONG.
AND I THINK WE COULD USE THE REVENUE.
UM, WHICH BRINGS UP MY NEXT POINT.
UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL HAS MADE IT VERY OBVIOUS THEY COULD REALLY CARE LESS ABOUT THE NEEDS OF HILTON HEAD.
UH, THEY TOOK FUNDING AWAY FROM THE ISLAND REC CENTER, UM, WHICH SO MANY CHILDREN IN BEAUFORT COUNTY USE AND OUR KIDS HERE USE.
AND, UH, LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO US WITH THE BRIDGE.
UM, THEY PRESENTED A PLAN TO US FOR THE 2018 PENNY TAX REFERENDUM, PROMISED THAT MONEY FOR THE BRIDGE CORRIDOR TO HELP WITH CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND WHAT DID THEY GIVE US FOR THAT? UH, NOT ONE DIME.
SO IF I WERE YOU, I'D BE THINKING OF WAYS FOR HILTON HEAD TO BRING IN MORE REVENUE TO HELP COVER SOME OF THE EXPENSES FOR THINGS WE NEED FOR OUR ISLAND TO BE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE AND VISIT.
BECAUSE IF YOU THINK BEAUFORT IS GONNA PITCH IN, WELL, WE ALREADY KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA GO.
ORIGINALLY, I WAS GONNA SAY GOOD AFTERNOON, BUT WE'LL START WITH GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU TO TOWN COUNCIL, TOWN MANAGER, STAFF MAYOR PERRY, OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGE TO TOWN PARKING TODAY.
A LOT OF WHAT I HAD WRITTEN DOWN TODAY IS ALREADY KIND OF METASTASIZED AND CHANGED.
AND I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH BASIC NOTES THAT, AND SOME MISCONCEPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID TODAY THAT ARE BOTHERSOME.
UH, I DO APPRECIATE TAMMY EARLIER MS. BECKER SAYING, WHY RUSH THROUGH THINGS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER SUBJECTS, WE NEED TO BE THOROUGH, RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND OUR CONSTITUENTS.
AND I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
AND I ALSO WANNA SAY IT'S ONLY BEEN THREE MONTHS THAT WE'VE HAD THIS DATA.
UH, WHAT MS. TONER SAID, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND WE NEED TO HONOR WHAT THE PRIOR COUNSEL SAID AS FAR AS A YEAR.
SO I'VE WROTE SOME NOTES AS FAR AS THE REST OF THE SUBJECT TO THE BROUGHT UP AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT AND GIVE YOU OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
KNI PAUSE DOES NOT PARK THEIR EMPLOYEES IN THE BEACH PARKING LOT.
AND IF ANYTHING, IT'S IN OUR NOTES IN OUR, TO OUR TENANT TO NOT PROMOTE IT.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO SECURITY THERE WITHIN THE PARKING LOT.
SO FOR PEOPLE TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT TRUE, WE WANNA SAY THANKS FOR, UM, MAYOR PERRY AND STEVE DESIMONE FOR BRINGING UP CRIME.
WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT CRIME 'CAUSE I HAVE THE REAL STATS FOR KNI.
81% OF OUR CALLS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY ARE FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESSNESS, HAVING ISSUES WITH INC.
NEY PLAZA ON POPE AVENUE, 81%, 10% ARE VEHICLE VIOLATIONS OR PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH WITH THEIR STEREOS TOO LOUD.
5% ARE ACTUALLY FOR PEOPLE OR TOURISTS WHO'VE LOST THEIR VEHICLE AND THINK IT HAS GOTTEN STOLEN.
AND 4% IS FOR OTHER ISSUES IN REGARDS TO EMS. 75% ARE FOR HEAT, STROKE OR HEAT ISSUES.
20% ARE FOR FALLS OR TRIPS AND 5% FOR THE OTHER.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THESE CRIME CRIME STATS.
WE PROVIDE OUR OWN SECURITY ARMED SECURITY SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
SO LET'S NOT BLAME IT ON THE PARKING CAPACITY.
YOU THINK ABOUT BEACH COMMUNITIES IN EVERY BEACH COMMUNITY HAS A KNOWN BEACH, WHETHER IT'S DAYTONA AT THE PIER, MYRTLE BEACH AT THE STRAND KEY WEST AT THE BALL MARKER, WHEREVER YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
YOU WILL NOT MAKE THE CAPACITY AT THAT BEACH CHANGE WHETHER LINNEY IS FREE CHARGED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT CHARGED.
IT IS THE KNOWN ENTITY IS THE GOLDEN GOOSE OF THIS ISLAND.
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YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE CAPACITY UNLESS YOU WANNA HAVE PEOPLE CHECKING IN THE BEACH AND COUNTING BEACH TAGS AND SAYING, HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD BE ON THERE? YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE KEY PROPERTY.WE ALSO ARE NOT FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR ASSET.
SO LAST THING I WANNA SAY IS THE TRUE PARKING ISSUE IS
LYNN BULLARD, I GUESS YOU SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST.
UH, BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THE BEACH PARKING, I WANT TO COMMEND THE MAYOR AND COMMITTEE FROM REDUCING THEIR COMMITTEE FROM FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THREE.
I ALWAYS FELT THAT WAS A SETUP FOR A SLAM DUNK DECISION, ELIMINATING THREE OTHER COUNCIL PEOPLE'S VOTES.
SO YOU'RE TO BE COMMENDED ON AN HONESTY CHANGE.
SO NOW THE BEACH PARKING FEE, LET'S SEE, THE DEFINITION OF FREE IS AT NO COST AND THE DEFINITION OF ENTITLEMENT IS A FREE BENEFIT.
SO THE COMMON SENSE ANSWER IS PRETTY SIMPLE TO ME.
AT THE COST OF $650,000 CURRENTLY FOR BEACH MANAGEMENT AND RISING, THERE SHOULD BE A NO FREE PARKING POLICY.
THOSE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO TWO TONS OF TRASH HAVING TO BE HAULED AWAY AND CLEANED UP AFTER BATHROOM SANITATION.
THE NEED FOR MANY LIFEGUARDS AND SECURITY SHOULD PAY A FEE TO HELP, HELP OFFSET THIS COST.
AS A HILTON HEAD ISLAND PROPERTY TAXPAYER, 20% OF MY PROPERTY TAX GOES TO BEAUFORT COUNTY COFFERS.
APPROXIMATELY 60% OF THAT MONEY GOES TO BENNETT, OTHER OFF ISLAND AREAS IN OUR COUNTY.
IN FACT, WHILE THE COUNTY INCREASED THEIR NEW 2020 5 26 OPERATING BUDGET BY 20%, THEY CUT FUNDS TO OUR ISLAND REC CENTER THAT BENEFITS OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN.
THEY ALSO PAY NOTHING TOWARDS OUR BEACH MANAGEMENT COSTS.
SO A BEACH PARKING USER FEE IS APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN PAYING TOO LONG FOR PARKING WHILE NON-RESIDENTS GOT A FREE PARKING ENTITLEMENT BENEFIT.
I'VE LIVED IN FOREST SPEECH FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND BEEN A MERCHANT IN GANY ALMOST THAT LONG.
IT'S COMPLEX, A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
I THINK WE HAD IT RIGHT LAST YEAR WHEN WE SAID WE NEED TO STUDY IT.
I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE A COMMITTEE BY NOVEMBER 30TH, THEN IT WAS JANUARY, THEN IT WAS STUDY THE DATA, THEN.
THIS SEEMED TO COME UP KIND OF QUICKLY.
BUT LIKE WE LEARNED TODAY, NOTHING GOOD HAPPENS WHEN YOU RUSH THROUGH ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTTA BE READY, YOU'RE NOT READY TILL YOU'RE READY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IN FOREST BEACH ONE TIME WE HAD A MAYORAL DEBATE AND A VERY WISE MAN SAID, FORCED SPEECHES AT ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR HILTON HEAD.
YOU KNOW, SO THE TOWN IS IN ON THIS TOO.
AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES THERE THAT AFFECT BOTH BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTIAL.
AND PARKING IN THAT AREA ALSO INTERSECTS WITH YOUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL POLICY AS WELL AS SAFETY AND SECURITY.
THEY CONNECT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE OR MAYBE YOU'RE NOT THERE THAT OFTEN YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND.
SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE HANDS ON IN THAT SITUATION TO REALLY KNOW.
SO YES, IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME TO STUDY AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WILL BE, BUT WE NEED TO STUDY IT AND WE NEED PEOPLE THERE ON THIS COMMITTEE THAT ACTUALLY KNOW THESE THINGS.
LIKE, DID YOU KNOW YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST DAY OF THE PEAK OF SUMMER IN THE LAST EIGHT WEEKS AND THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE TOP DOLLAR.
AND DID YOU KNOW, FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, ALL THE BUSINESSES THERE DO ABOUT 30 TO 33% OF THEIR BUSINESS FOR THE YEAR IN ONE MONTH, RIGHT? ALEX KNOWS THIS, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THIS KIND OF INFORMATION AND THE, THE INFORMATION YOU KNOW ABOUT WHEN THE KIDS COME DOWN THERE, THE ONES THAT ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS, HOW DO THEY GET ONTO THE BEACH?
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WHAT ARE THEY DOING THERE? WHY CAN'T WE PICK THEM UP? UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THERE THAT ALL INTERSECT AND IT CAN BE CONFUSING AND IT SHOULDN'T BE RUSHED INTO.AND I'M GLAD YOU GUYS DIDN'T RUSH INTO SOMETHING TONIGHT AND JUST SET A DEAD DATE THAT WELL, EVEN IF WE CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN AT THIS DATE.
SO, UH, PLEASE, LET'S CONTINUE WHAT WE AGREED TO LAST SEPTEMBER AND LET, LET'S FORM OUR COMMITTEE.
LET'S GET PEOPLE TOGETHER THERE THAT REALLY CARE THAT IT AFFECTS THEM, ALSO AFFECTS YOU GUYS.
AND LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THERE WITH PARKING.
HONESTLY, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, IN A, I'M SAY A GENTLE WAY.
YOU KNOW, SOME ZONING ISSUES IN THE PAST KIND OF CREATED THOSE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TIMES WE SAW PLANS FOR BUILDINGS IN FOREST BEACH AND WE ASKED, WHERE'S THE PARKING? AND THEY SAID, TOWN DIDN'T ASK US FOR PARKING AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A VERY GOOD METRIC TO STICK ON TOP OF THAT AND, UH, CONTROL THE PARKING ISSUE.
IT'S NOT EASY AND IT SHOULDN'T BE RUSHED THROUGH.
THANK YOU PAMELA MARTIN OVENS BEST.
I ACTUALLY USED TO LIVE IN FOREST BEACH IN SOUTH FOREST BEACH FOR MANY YEARS.
I WAS PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR NORTH AND SOUTH FOREST BEACH FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT I THINK THE ONLY MISTAKE THAT'S BEING MADE HERE TONIGHT IS ON SEPTEMBER 17TH AND 2024, YOU MAKE A RESOLUTION AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULD WATCH THIS GA AND GATHER INFORMATION FOR ONE YEAR AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN GONE THROUGH SUMMER.
AND I THINK IF YOU GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE, THEN YOU CAN MAKE A CLEAR DECISION IN SEPTEMBER.
UH, CURTIS DID, DID YOU HAVE A, UH, REPORT BACK TO US? I DO.
SO MS. BRYSON, THE TEXT RELATED TO CHARGING RESIDENTS FOR BEACH PASSES, OR NOT CHARGING THEM IS NOW CODIFIED IN 12 6 1 15 B.
SO THAT'S NOW IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND SO IT DID NOT NEED TO REPEAT ITSELF IN THIS RESOLUTION, JUST LIKE THE, UM, TEXT RELATED TO NOT CHARGING FOR PARKING AT CHAPLAIN DURING THE YOUTH SPORTS SEASONS.
THAT'S ALSO NOW IN THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS WHY THEY DON'T CARRY FORWARD INTO THIS RESOLUTION.
AND SO WITH THAT, SO IN ORDER TO CHARGE FEES THERE IN THE FUTURE, WE HAVE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE, WHICH IS CONTRARY TO THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE.
IT SAYS WE SET FEES BY RESOLUTION.
THAT, THAT ONLY RELATES TO THE BEACH, TO THE, TO THE RESIDENT PARKING PASSES.
UH, I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT LATER.
OKAY, MR. BROWN? YEAH, JUST, UM, JUST A COMMENT AND I, I THINK COUNCILWOMAN BECKER WAS PLANNING TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS OR WITHDRAW HER MOTION, BUT I'LL GET TO THAT.
BUT WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM, UH, US ON THE ES AND FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW WE FURTHER STUDY THE SITUATION.
AND I'D ASK MR. MAYOR THAT, YOU KNOW, SOONER THAN LATER THAT IT BE PUT ON AN AGENDA SO THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN START TO DISCUSS WHAT THE MAKEUP THAT OF THAT COMMITTEE LOOKS LIKE.
I'M NOT GONNA SHARE 'EM TONIGHT, BUT I, BUT I THINK THE SOONER WE GET FOLKS IN A ROOM THAT START TO DELIBERATE AMONGST THEMSELVES WHAT IS HAPPENING DOWN THERE AND WHAT THE OUTCOMES COULD BE, AND THEN COME BACK TO US, WE ARE THEN IN A BETTER POSITION TO MAKE DECISIONS DOWN THE ROAD.
SO, UM, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF US PUTTING A DATE ON CHARGING AT NY, BUT I AM SUGGESTING VERY STRONGLY THAT WE PUT A TIMELINE ON PUTTING TOGETHER SUCH GROUP TO TALK ABOUT IT.
UH, SO CURTIS, I JUST, I, I KNOW THIS QUESTION WAS ASKED THE OTHER DAY, UH, BUT I WANNA JUST REITERATE THAT, UM, IF WE TAKE THE VOTE NOW AND THE MOTION FAILS, THEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOR ANOTHER MOTION TO COME OUT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UM, I GOT ONE THING I WANT TO THANK MR. LAUR FOR STRAIGHT FROM HIS MOUTH.
I MEAN, HE CLEARED UP A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, HE SAYS THAT I HAVE IT WRONG AND HE PROBABLY HAS IT, RIGHT? HE MANAGES THAT PLAZA, RIGHT? SO HIS MERCHANTS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKING ME, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF 'EM, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S MY WARD.
WHAT ABOUT EMPLOYEE PARKING? ARE YOU GONNA GIVE EMPLOYEE PASSES? THEY'RE ASKING ME FOR EMPLOYEE PASSES.
HE JUST VERIFIED THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES DON'T PARK THERE.
SO WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR US TO PUT
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OUT EMPLOYEE PASSES, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT ANYMORE.AND THEY CAN GO THROUGH MR. LASSO.
SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE, UH, TAKE THE VOTE? SO I WAS GOING TO AMEND
UM, BUT I HAVE TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, UM, CAN YOU READ BACK THE MOTION SO YOU CAN BECKER? SO LET ME, SO LET ME JUST, UM, RE THE MOTION ACTUALLY, MS. BECKER, THE MOTION WAS IN THAT STAFF REPORT RIGHT HERE, UM, THAT, THAT IS PULLED UP ON THE SCREEN.
AND SO I WAS GOING TO AMEND MY MOTION TO INCORPORATE, UM, TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE DISCUSSION HERE.
AND I'VE HEARD LOTS OF THINGS FROM THE PUBLIC AND I'M GLAD WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THAT SO MANY PEOPLE SPOKE, HAD LOTS OF NOTES.
THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UM, UM, TO, TO THINK ABOUT AND TALK ABOUT.
AND, AND I'M GOING TO ADD IN THERE THAT I WANT LIKE TO HAVE THAT SURVEY FROM THE MERCHANTS DOWN THERE SO THAT I HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF THAT DATA PIECE.
UM, AND, UM, I AM GOING TO ALSO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP MY ANECDOTAL OBSERVATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF TIME BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALSO IMPORTANT.
BUT I'D LIKE TO INCORPORATE THAT WE, IT SOUNDED TO ME THAT WE HAD AGREEMENT $3 DURING THE WEEKDAY, $5 DURING THE WEEKEND, UM, NO CAP, NO FLAT FEE.
AND FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AGAINST MY BETTER JUDGMENT, UM, NO PART, NO CHARGE AT KAEGY.
I WILL SECOND WELL, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT, YOU.
NO, YOU CAN'T SECOND, NO SECOND BECAUSE SHE'S AMENDING HER MOTION.
SO MR DOESN'T WOULD'VE TO AGREE TO THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU, WE GOT A THIRD.
SO ANY OTHER DIS DISCUSSION AND, AND THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT.
AND KIM, DID YOU GET THAT? SO THAT ADDITION, THAT WAS IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS UP ON THE SCREEN THERE FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WAS MADE OUTTA CSPS IN MAY.
THOSE ARE THE CHA THOSE ARE THE CHANGES.
THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION WITH THE CHANGES RECOMMENDED FOR COMMITTEE ELIMINATE THE FLAT RATE, THE MAXIMUM DAILY FEE, IMPLEMENT A $5 HOURLY CHARGE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND TO CHARGE AT THE KAEGY BEACH PARKING LOT.
THE AMENDED MOTION ALLOWS FOR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, $3 AN HOUR PARKING WITH NO, NO MAXIMUM FEE, A $5 PER HOUR FEE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, AND DOES NOT BEGIN US CHARGING AT COLIGNY LOT AND NO, NO CAP ON FEDER SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.
AND MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY IT.
YES, IT REPLACES, IT REPLACES DOESN'T, DOESN'T ADD TO, DOESN'T ADD.
SO IT REPLACES WHAT, WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN, KIM? OKAY, MR. MAYOR, I, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST EARLIER, BASED ON THE COMMENT THAT MR. COLTRANE MADE EARLIER IN THE DISCUSSION YEP.
THAT WE SIMPLY ASKED MS. BECKER IF SHE WOULD WITHDRAW HER MOTION AND START FROM SCRATCH.
THAT WAS WHAT I WAS GONNA SUGGEST.
I'M GONNA WITHDRAW MY ORIGINAL MOTION.
I'M GOING TO TORE, MAY I PLEASE? YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING THIS, BUT, OKAY.
I'M GONNA WITHDRAW THAT MOTION.
THE NEW MOTION IS, HANG ON, HANG ON, HANG ON ONE SECOND.
I'VE GOT ONE IN FRONT OF ME, MS. BECKY.
I, I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT IS WHAT I STARTED OUT WITH OR ELSE I WITHDRAW MY WITHDRAWAL.
NO, I'M, I'M, I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT THERE.
ELIMINATE THE DAILY FEE OF FIF I ADOPT TO, LEMME JUST READ IT.
YOU CAN DO, ELIMINATE THE DAILY MAXIMUM FEE OF $15 CURRENTLY CHARGED ON MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS.
REMOVE THE $20 FLAT FEE FOR CURRENT CHARGES ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
CHANGE THE HOURLY FEE RATE TO $3 PER HOUR ON THE WEEKENDS.
OH NO, ON THE, DURING THE WEEK.
WELL, NO, I, WELL, NO, BECAUSE I'M READING WHAT IT SAYS NEXT AND THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT I WANNA
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SAY.CHANGE THE HOURLY RATE TO $3 PER HOUR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
CHANGE THE HOURLY RATE ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS FROM FIVE TO $5 AN HOUR.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE HOURS, IT'S STILL SEVEN TO FIVE.
CONTINUE TO NOT CHARGE AT THE KAGEY BEACH PARKING LOT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, MAYOR? SORRY.
UM, MY CONCERN IS ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS.
I MEAN, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE US TO CHANGE OVER TO THE $5 FEE? IS IT A WEEK? IS IT TWO WEEKS? IS IT TOMORROW? BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
IF IT TAKES US A WEEK TO DO, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A CLEAN RESOLUTION THAT GIVES, UH, GIVES AT LEAST THIS TOWN COUNCILS MEMBER A LOT MORE COMFORT IN WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
SO THE CHANGEOVER, UH, TO WHATEVER THE, THE FINAL NUMBER IS, IS A PHONE CALL TO PCI AND IT'S A PROGRAMMING CHANGE THAT IS, THAT CAN HAPPEN TONIGHT.
THE LONGER TERM THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS CHANGE THE SIGNS, BUT WE CAN ALSO PUT UP TEMPORARY SIGNS AND WE CAN START THAT PROCESS TOMORROW IF THIS IS ADOPTED THIS EVENING AND THE FINAL RESOLUTION WORDING WILL BE DRAFTED TO REFLECT COUNCIL'S ACTIONS TONIGHT, THE MAYOR WILL SIGN IT WITH THE, WITH THE CHANGE TO REFLECTED AND WE CAN SEND THAT TO ALL OF COUNSEL.
THAT CAN BE DONE VERY QUICKLY.
SEAN IS SITTING THERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE PICK AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF EFFECTIVE AS THE SUN RISES JUNE 24TH TUESDAY.
I I'M GONNA SAY THIS AND I'LL BE QUICK, OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS. I KNOW IT DID, BUT IT'S ALL ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE A, A PROGRAM BETTER.
UM, THERE IS DATA THAT'S COMING IN AND WE DID HAVE DATA AND WE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS NOT ONLY FROM OFF ISLAND RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO FROM ON ISLAND RESIDENTS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES AT THIS TOWN HALL THAT EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING ABOUT 20 BUCKS ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
AND I SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
WE'VE GOTTA GIVE THE LOVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT SHOW US THE LOVE COMING BACK.
WE HAVE EMPLOYEES THAT COME OVER HERE TO WORK EVERY DAY AND THEY GIVE US THE BEST THAT THEY CAN DO.
AND IF WE DON'T GIVE IT BACK TO THEM, WE'RE MISSING THE BOAT.
SO TAKE MY WORDS AND USE 'EM AGAINST ME AS YOU LIKE, BUT I'M GONNA TELL YOU WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND OPPOSED SIX TO ONE.
[7.h. Consideration of a Resolution of the Town Council of the Town of Hilton Head Island Authorizing the Execution of a Temporary Right of Entry to the Regimes of Hilton Head Beach and Tennis Granting Ingress and Egress to the Existing Beach Access at Islanders Beach Park - Shawn Leininger, Assistant Town Manager]
CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD ISLAND, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A TEMPORARY RIGHT OF ENTRY TO THE REGIMES OF HILTON HEAD, BEACH AND TENNIS GRANTING INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE EXISTING BEACH ACCESS AT ISLANDER BEACH PARK.MR. LAER TO DINNER, YOU WANT A MOTION?
YOU CAN DO A MOTION MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION FROM FROM THE, THE PUBLIC YOU MAY SIGN UP TO SIGN.
I'M SORRY, WHO, WHO MADE THE MOTION? AND MR. DESMOND? MS. BECKER.
THE ONLY COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE, UM, IS THAT, TO CLARIFY THAT THIS SHOULD NOT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IMPEDE IN ANY WAY, UM, ACCESS TO ISLANDER SPEECH.
I ALSO WAS WONDERING IF IN THE RESOLUTION IT SHOULD INCLUDE THE DATES THAT THEY CAN DO THE WORK.
IT SAYS IN THE PERMIT THEY CAN ONLY DO THIS BETWEEN NOVEMBER 1ST AND APRIL 30TH, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IN OUR RESOLUTION OR SO THE, THE AGREEMENT, THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED, UH, IT, IT'LL FILE THE, THE TERMS OF THE PERMIT ONCE THE DATE, ONCE THE AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED.
ONCE THE AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED, IT'LL BE IN EFFECT FOR 60 DAYS, UM, PER THE TERMS OF THE, PER THE
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TERMS OF THE PERMIT.SO THERE IS A START AND AN END DATE.
KIM, HAS ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? NO SIR.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? SEEING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFIED BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
[8. Public Comment - Non Agenda Items]
WILL MOVE ON TO NON-AG AGENDA ITEM SECTION OF PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION TWO DASH FIVE 70.THE TOWN CODE LIMITS EACH PERSON TO ONE THREE MINUTE COMMENT WOUND ADDRESSING COUNSEL.
AT THE END OF YOUR THREE MINUTES, YOU'RE ASKED TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS.
PLEASE MAINTAIN A DECORUM SUITABLE FOR THE MEETING AND REFRAIN FROM USING ANY PROFANE, ABUSIVE, OR OBSCENE LANGUAGE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY MATERIALS YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE TO TOWN COUNCIL, PLEASE GIVE TO THE TOWN CLERK AFTER YOU ARE FINISHED SPEAKING.
KIMBERLY, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? YES.
[9. Executive Session]
NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES SIR.AS SHOWN ON THE TOWN COUNCIL AGENDA.
ITEM NINE, EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS A, B, AND C.
DO HAVE A MOTION TO GO IN EXECUTIVE? SO MOVED A SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
THANKS FOR WATCHING BEAUFORT COUNTY TV.
[10. Action from Executive Session]
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION? SO MOVE.ALL IN FAVOR OF COMING OUTTA EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE ARE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MR. BROWN, DO WE HAVE ANY ACTIONS COMING? STEVE, WE STILL GET BUSINESS.
UM, YES, MR. MAYOR, WE DO, UH, BELIEVE COUNCILMAN REBECCA HAS A MOTION TO MAKE AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
I AM, UM, VERY PLEASED AND HONORED TO, UH, MAKE THESE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, COMMITTEES.
UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH NEW APPOINTMENTS.
DAVE FERGUSON FOR THE ACCOMMODATION TAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH A TERM ENDING JUNE 30TH, 2028.
JEFFREY GREEN FOR THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
PETER CHRISTIAN BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, JUNE 30TH, 2028.
ANGELINA HARPER FOR THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS.
CHARLES BAUER CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS.
KATHY FOSS DESIGN REVIEW BOARD JUNE 30TH, 2027.
DAVID AMES, THE GULLAH GEECHEE, CDC, JUNE 30TH, 2028.
SARAH EISNER GULLAH GEECHEE, CDC.
MARGARET HEWITT PLANNING COMMISSION.
WILLIAM REDMOND PLANNING COMMISSION.
JEFF TURNBULL, PLANNING COMMISSION, JUNE 30TH, 2028.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE SOME MARIA APPOINTMENTS.
UM, WE'LL STAY ON, UM, WITH THE TERM ENDING.
CATHERINE BAYLESS BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
NEIL GORDON CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND APPEALS.
MEGAN FITZPATRICK, DESIGN REVIEW BOARD, JUNE 30TH, 2028.
JOHN PARSONS PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.
CHARLIE CHARLES QUIG PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION.
JEFF INGER FOR THE BOARD OF THE BEAUFORT COUNTY STORMWATER UTILITY.
AND BUTCH KAZA, HILTON HEAD ISLAND RECREATION ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO APPLIED.
AND WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR AN ARCHITECT FOR OUR BZA.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE AN INTEREST, PLEASE UM, REACH OUT AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ALL NO, THAT'S YOUR JOB.
ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE AUDIENCE? ANYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON THIS COUNT? THANK YOU.
ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNSEL? SEEING NONE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR RIGHT HAND.
LET IT BE NOTED THAT MS. BRYSON HAD TO LEAVE EARLY.
UM, ANY OTHER BUSINESS? SEEING NONE.