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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY, UH, WEDNESDAY,
[I. CALL TO ORDER]
MAY 28TH.PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP TO ORDER.
IF I COULD GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
HERE, VICE CHAIRMAN JIM FLYNN.
COMMISSIONER WILL HOWARD HERE.
[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]
ADJOURNMENTS.THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER NINE 30 UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE NINE 30 MAY BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING OR AN ADDITIONAL MEETING DATE AS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.
[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
AN ADOPTION OF MINUTES.ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
I OPPOSED, UH, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE PUBLIC
[V. PUBLIC COMMENT]
COMMENTS THIS EVENING? YES.UM, UH, JUST SAY, UH, IF YOU DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL.
PERSONALLY, WE ARE VOLUNTEERS HERE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN, UH, TO MAKE OUR TOWN A BETTER PLACE.
IT IS LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF THREE MINUTES PER MEETING, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE PERSON IS SPEAKING ON THEIR OWN BEHALF OR AS AN AGENT FOR OTHERS, YOU MAY NOT DONATE, TRANSFER, YIELD, OR GIVE ANY PORTION OF YOUR SPEAKING TIME TO ANOTHER PERSON.
ALL COMMENTS ARE TO BE CONDUCTED FROM THE PODIUM AND DIRECTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION AS A WHOLE, NOT TO ANY MEMBER THEREOF.
ALL SPEAKERS SHALL BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF THOSE PARTICIPATING IN OR PRESENT AT THE MEETING.
SPEAKERS SHALL BE EXPECTED TO BE CIVIL IN THEIR LANGUAGE AND SHALL REFRAIN FROM COMMENT OR BEHAVIOR THAT INVOLVES DISORDERLY SPEECH OR ACTION, NAME CALLING, PERSONAL ATTACKS, THREATS, OBSCENE OR INDECENT REMARKS AND OR DISRUPTIVE ACTIONS.
UH, FORTUNATELY WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT HAPPEN IN PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT IT HAS HAPPENED IN OTHER ENTITIES IN THE TOWN.
UM, PLEASE CONFINE YOUR COMMENTS TO ISSUES UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF TOWN.
UM, DO NOT USE PUBLIC COMMENT, PERIOD TO PROMOTE OR ADVERTISE AWARDS, BUSINESSES, SERVICES, GOODS, OR CANDIDATES FOR PUBLIC OFFICE.
UM, IT, UH, ALSO WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS SO WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE TOWN AND HOW YOU INTERESTED GONNA BE.
I CALLING ANYBODY LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT MICHAEL BROCK JOINED AT 6 0 1.
THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM GLENDA OLAK WHO CANNOT BE HERE TODAY.
UH, YOU CANNOT TECHNICALLY SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SOMEONE ELSE, SO THIS WILL BE FROM YOU.
SHE GOT PERMISSION FROM DAN FRAZIER BEFORE THIS MEETING AND SHE TOLD ME TO COME.
UM, SO THIS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ON GREEN STREET, UM, AT CROSS FROM BOUNDARY.
SO SHE READ THE, UM, REVISED PLAN.
SO WHAT IS THE ADDRESS HER AT 95 GREEN STREET.
SO DIRECTLY BEHIND THE LOT THAT'S IN QUESTION.
UM, SO THE PLAN DATED APRIL 1ST.
UM, WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.
WE SEE THAT THE DEVELOPERS PLAN TO USE BRICK PAVERS AT THE END OF THE PARKING LOT IN THE APRON OF THE PARKING LOT ENTRANCE.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NO PLANS TO UPDATE GREEN STREET.
THIS STREET IS CURRENTLY GHOST ROAD USED BY FOUR RESIDENTS AND IS ALREADY AN UNPAVED AND UNKEPT STATE WITH LARGE POTHOLES.
THE CONCERNS THAT TRAFFIC ADDED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM DELIVERIES, CUSTOMERS AND RESIDENTS WOULD FURTHER ERODE THIS AREA CAUSING ISSUES FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENCE AS POSSIBLE.
SO THEY WOULD JUST LIKE, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT PLAN IS, IF IT'S GOING TO BE CONNECTED OR NOT.
SECOND ONE IS THE TREE CANOPY.
LOOKING AT THE SITE ANALYSIS, UM, THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY SHOWS THAT IT'S ONLY 1600 SQUARE FEET AND THE LOT'S 12,600 SQUARE FEET, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT MORE THAN 10% COVERAGE OF EXISTING TREE CANOPY.
SO THE CONCERN IS WITH EXISTING TREE CANOPY, THERE'S AT LEAST FOUR VERY MATURE LARGE LIVE OAKS THERE, UM, WHICH WE'D HATE TO LOSE.
AND UM, AND THEN, SO I GUESS WE'D LIKE TO SEE A MORE ACCURATE EXISTING TREE CANOPY.
UM, THE PROPOSED TREE CANOPY SEEMS, UM, A LITTLE BIT OFF.
IT SHOWS THAT IT WOULD MAKE ABOUT DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF TREE COVER, BUT NOW IT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WAY COVERED.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW IT COULD DO THAT.
BUT THE OTHER PART, IF YOU LOOK AT THE YELLOW PART OF THAT DIAGRAM ON THE SHADING, IT SHOWS UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT CANOPY COVERAGE OVER THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT AREA.
BUT THERE'S ONLY TWO TREES PLANNED.
SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE EXISTING
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TREE CANOPY IS LOOKED AT VERY CAREFULLY AS WELL AS WHAT THE FUTURE TREE CANOPY IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.UM, THEN, UM, ABOUT LIKE FORM-BASED CODE AND DENSITY.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WOULD BE THERE.
UM, SO THAT AREA OF BLUFFTON WITH, THERE'S NOT REALLY A COMMERCIAL LOOK RIGHT NOW AND IT'S KIND OF THE BACKDROP FOR A LOT OF OUR FESTIVALS, OUR TREE LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY DENSE PART OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
SO THAT'S JUST A CONCERN FROM HER AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL DENSITY, WE REALLY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT.
SO WE KNOW THERE'S 12,600 SQUARE FEET, BUT THE FOOTPRINT UM, LOOKED MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT WAS REPORTED.
'CAUSE THERE'S TWO VERY LARGE BUILDINGS AND THEN ALSO TWO CARRIAGE HOUSES.
SO JUST KIND OF WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT IS AND THEN FROM A PERSON WHO WILL LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THERE, UM, THE QUESTION IS, CAN THERE BE FENCING PUT UP? UM, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THE PARKING'S SET, UM, THOSE LIGHTS WILL GO DIRECTLY INTO THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSE RIGHT BEHIND IT.
SO WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE MIGHT BE A CONSIDERATION TO PUT UP A FENCE BEHIND WHERE THOSE BUSHES ARE IN THE PLAN SO THAT DOESN'T GO DIRECTLY ONTO THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN ALSO HOPING THAT WE COULD SEE A PLAN FOR LIGHTING OFF OF THE BUILDINGS.
'CAUSE IF THERE'S LIKE A BIG SPOTLIGHT OFF THE TOP OF THE BUILDING, THAT WOULD GO DIRECTLY IN THE WINDOWS OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND.
AND THEN LAST THERE, THAT WAS THE LIGHTING.
WANNA MAKE SURE IT WAS IN MY THREE MINUTES.
UM, SO I GUESS THAT'S IT, YOU KNOW, AND JUST KIND OF THAT, UM, THE COMMERCIAL LOOK, THE TREE CANOPY AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE GREEN STREET, THE GHOST ROAD IS KIND OF TAKEN CARE OF SO IT DOESN'T GET ANY MORE DISARRAY.
AND WHILE WE CAN'T ADDRESS ANY OF YOUR COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO YOU, UH, MR. FRAZIER, THIS PROJECT IF, IF APPROVED TONIGHT, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR LIGHTING.
LANDSCAPING AND SO ON BECAUSE IN THE TOWN, RIGHT? YEAH.
FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE'LL HAVE TO INCLUDE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN FOR LIGHTING AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SLEEP.
UM, AND YOUR ADDRESS, MS. ICK.
UM, AND GLENDA AND I DID NOT, UM, COMMUNICATE ON THIS, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT SHE DOES.
I SAW EVEN ON, UM, COMMENTS FROM THE TOWN, THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT TREES TO BE REMOVED AND YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE TREES STAY IN OLD TOWN.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TREE LOSS ALREADY, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A PLAN WHERE MORE TREES CAN BE SAVED, LESS CUT DOWN.
UM, AND I'M WONDERING WHY MORE MIXED USE? IT SEEMS LIKE WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF MIXED USE AND BLUFFTON.
UM, I LIKE THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON FEEL.
I MEAN, I GREW UP GOING TO, UH, MYRTLE ISLAND MY WHOLE LIFE AND I LOVE THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON FEEL.
I KNOW IT'S NOT THAT ANYMORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD KIND OF KEEP IT, THAT SOMEHOW, UM, CONSIDERATION FOR THE HOMEOWNERS, JUST AS SHE SAID, FENCING OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE TO PROTECT US.
I KNOW THE ORIGINAL PLAN SHOWED TO PUT A DUMPSTER RIGHT IN FRONT OF NUMBER ONE HICKORY TRACE.
I, I SEE THAT Y'ALL HAVE ADDRESSED THAT.
UM, BUT EVEN THE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS GONNA BE PUT THERE, UM, ALSO, HAVE Y'ALL CONSIDERED THE CONGESTION ON BOUNDARY STREET? DO YOU EVER GO DOWN BOUNDARY STREET ON THURSDAYS WHEN THE FARMER'S MARKET IS THERE? I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, I'M NOT.
WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO YOU.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO, IT'S JUST AS A PUBLIC BODY WE CAN'T.
UM, ANYWAY, BELIEVE ME, I WANNA RESPOND TO THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY.
IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY CONGESTIVE AND SOMETIMES I CAN'T GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY FROM THE CARS DOWN THERE.
SO IT CONCERNS ME THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE PARKED AT THE FARMER'S MARKET BUT WANNA CROSS OVER BOUNDARY STREET TO COME TO THESE SHOPS.
IT'S JUST NOT SAFE DOWN THERE TO BE DOING THAT.
UM, HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES, YOU KNOW, SO FARMER'S MARKET, UM, FESTIVALS.
WE JUST HAD THE MAY FEST, THE SEAFOOD FESTIVAL, YOU KNOW, JUST ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS DOWN THERE.
UM, AND I ALSO AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY FOUR BUILDINGS ON THIS LITTLE LOT.
THIS LOT IS ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS MY LOT.
MY LOT IS RIGHT OUT A QUARTER OF AN ACRE.
I SAY THIS IS ABOUT A THIRD OF AN ACRE.
I THINK, UM, FOUR BUILDINGS ON ONE LOT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT TO ME.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY.
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Y'ALL LISTENING TO MY COMMENTS.AND MONDAYS GOOD EVENING, MS. MONDAY.
DO, UM, GOT AN DENSITY ISSUE, YOUR ADDRESS FIRST? MS. MONDAY.
BUT MY MOST CONCERN IS THE TRAFFIC.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FESTIVALS, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FARMER'S MARKET BECAUSE GENERALLY THERE ARE POLICE AND THINGS THERE.
BUT WHEN I WALK, AND OF COURSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD.
YOU HAVE TO CROSS OVER TO MARTIN FAMILY PARK AND THAT TO GET A, YOU KNOW, A SIDEWALK TO GO ANYWHERE, WHEREVER YOU'RE GOING.
UM, BUT THE KIDS THAT PLAY THERE AND THE BALLS THAT THEY KICK, WHICH I'VE PICKED UP ON MY END, MY DIRT ROAD OF LAWRENCE, THAT THEY KICK ACROSS SOMETIMES FROM THE, UH, MARTIN PARK, NOT FROM THE DU BOIS, BUT IF THE DEVELOPER, IF Y'ALL APPROVE THIS AND PUT THAT THERE, NUMBER ONE, A SIDEWALK ON THAT SIDE.
AND NUMBER TWO, IF THE DEVELOPER COULD DO A SPEED BUMP ABOUT MIDWAY IN MARTIN AND MIDWAY IN THE OTHER PART.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE MORNING I COME OUT TO GO TO WORK.
AND IF THEY'RE TURNING OFF OF BRIDGE STREET, THEY'RE FLYING TO THE FOUR-WAY STOP.
IF THEY'RE TURNING OFF THE FOUR-WAY STOP, THEY ARE FLYING.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE SPEED LIMIT IS THE ISSUE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN SIT THERE EVERY DAY.
YOU BE STOPPING EVERY SECOND CAR.
BUT IF THERE COULD BE SOME SPEED BUMPS PUT THERE SO THAT CARS CAN'T FLY DOWN THAT ROAD.
NUMBER ONE, SAFER FOR THE TOURISTS, SAFER FOR THE CHILDREN, SAFER FOR THE RESIDENTS.
BUT THAT LITTLE LOT IS GONNA GET FOUR BUILDINGS.
AND I'M GONNA ADMIT I HAVEN'T STUDIED THE ALL OF IT.
I GOT IT IN THE MAIL, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, UM, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THOSE.
UM, AND WHAT, WHEN YOU SAY COMMERCIAL, WHAT KIND OF COMMERCIAL IS IT? IS IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE REAL ESTATE OFFICE THERE? IS IT LIKE THE RETAIL, LITTLE RETAIL SHOP THERE? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BECAUSE THAT ZONE FOR COMMERCIAL, I THINK IT'S EVEN ZONED FOR MANUFACTURING AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF STUFF IN THAT ZONING THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD OPEN UP.
AND THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY OF US BETWEEN HAYWARD COVE AND, UM, BOUNDARY STREET, AND I'M THE ONLY PER, WELL THERE'S A RENTER ONE HOUSE NEXT TO MINE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THAT DIRT AREA.
BUT THAT TRAFFIC FLYING BACK AND FORTH AND THE LOT ON CORNER, THAT COULD EASILY BE DEVELOPED THE SAME WAY.
IT'S LIKE YOU JUST HAVE ONE HOUSE BEHIND IT OR TWO HOUSES BEHIND IT.
AND ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH ANYBODY COMING INTO THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PARKING IS GONNA BE LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ACCESS, WHAT TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE.
BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, IS BOUNDARY STREET, WHICH IS ALREADY BAD.
I LOOKED FOR A LINK TO SIGN UP, BUT I COULDN'T FIND ONE.
CAN WE SPEAK, FILL THE FORM? CAN I LET THEM SPEAK? THEY WANT ME TO PULL THE COMMENT BUT THEY COULDN'T FIND THE LINK TOO.
UM, I'M MAKE, REED WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT, BUT HE DID NOT FILE THE FULL.
WHICH, WHICH MR. REED, THE OLD ONE.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LET YOU MAKE COMMENT
UM, ANYWAY, UM, I JUST WANNA GO ON RECORD THAT UNIVERSITY LLC IS ONE OF THE THREE PARTIES TO THE NINTH AMENDMENT THAT Y'ALL ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT AND, UH, DISCUSSED IT WITH THE TOWN OR JUST WHILE AGO.
AND THEY ASSURED ME THEY WOULD MEET, THEY HAD TOLD ME THEY WOULD MEET WITH US, UH, BEFORE THEY DID MADE ANY CHANGES.
I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD THAT WE WANT TO, WE WANT THAT MEETING AND THAT WE ARE A PARTY TO IT BECAUSE WE WE A PARTY YET.
THERE IS, UM, UM, MR. FRAZIER THERE IS IN THIS PROCESS.
THIS IS A WORKSHOP TONIGHT FOR THAT ITEM, CORRECT? YEAH, IT'LL COME BACK.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS GETTING IT STARTED, SO I COULD SEE WHERE THAT MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED YET.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? NOPE, THAT'S IT.
UH, OLD BUSINESS, UH, DOWN TO NEW BUSINESS.
[VII.1. 67-69 Green Street (Development Plan): A request by Randolph Stewart , on behalf of Olympia Rymko for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan application. The project consists two (2) two-story mixed-use buildings, totaling approximately 1,333 SF commercial and 1535 residential each, and two carriage houses, totaling approximately 918 SF each, with associated parking, utilities, and stormwater infrastructure. The property is zoned Neighborhood Center - Historic District and consists of approximately 0.29 acres identified by tax map numbers R610 039 00A 0254 0000 and R610 039 00A 0385 0000 located on the northeast corner of Boundary Street and Green Street. (DP-01-25-019535) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]
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GREEN STREET.A REQUEST BY RANDOLPH STEWART ON BEHALF OF OLYMPIA RCO FOR APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF TWO, TWO STORY MIXED USE BUILDINGS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 1,333 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL AND 1,535 SQUARE FOOT RESIDENTIAL EACH AS WELL AS TWO CARRIAGE HOUSES TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 918 SQUARE FOOT EACH WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING, UTILITIES, AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER HISTORIC DISTRICT AND CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 0.29 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP NUMBERS IN THE AGENDA LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BOUNDARY STREETS AND GREEN STREET, MR. FRAZIER.
THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN APPLICATION FOR 67 69 GREEN STREET.
IT'S A REQUEST BY RANDOLPH STEWART ON BEHALF OF OLYMPIA REMCO FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES ONE MIXED USE BUILDING AND ONE CARRIAGE HOUSE ON EACH OF TWO PLATTED ADJACENT LOTS.
THE 0.29 ACRE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE ZONE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THEY'RE LOCATED NORTHEAST CORNER OF FOUNDRY STREET AND GREEN STREET, EAST OF MARTIN FAMILY PARK.
SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE ALSO WITHIN THE OLD TOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WILL REQUIRE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS HISTORIC DISTRICT PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT SUBMITTAL.
HERE IS THE LOCATION OF THE TWO PARCELS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF BOUNDARY STREET AND NORTHEAST CORNER OF BOUNDARY STREET IN GREEN STREET.
THERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE SAME LOCATION.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TWO TWO STORY MIXED USE BUILDINGS THAT WILL TOTAL 1,333 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND 1,535 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL EACH.
AND IT'LL, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE TWO CARRIAGE HOUSES TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 918 SQUARE FEET.
UH, REQUIRED PARKING SPACES ARE 10 AND THEY ARE PROVIDING 10 PARKING SPACES.
UH, IT'S GONNA BE ACCESSED FROM A 22 FOOT ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WILL BE COMING OFF OF THE UNPAVED GREEN STREET.
THERE'LL ALSO BE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS PROVIDED ALONG BOUNDARY STREET.
THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES REMOVAL OF SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT TREES, INCLUDING ONE LIVE OAK 30 INCH LIVE OAK, AND FOUR LAUREL OAKS THAT ARE 25, 24, 24, AND 36 INCHES.
WHILE THE ARBORIST RECOMMENDS RETAINING THE 30 INCH LIVE OAK, IT IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
THE LANDSCAPE PLAN MEETS THE REQUIRED 75% TREE CANOPY COVERAGE.
THE APPLICANT ALSO INCLUDED AN AUTOMOBILE TURN EXHIBIT.
WE, WE HAD ASKED FOR THAT AS A COMMENT FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, IT, IT'S OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE.
UM, HOWEVER, IT DEMONSTRATES THAT A VEHICLE IS UNABLE TO EXECUTE A TURNAROUND WITHOUT ENCROACHING OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVE LANE.
SO WE'VE GOT A 22 FOOT DRIVE LANE.
I THINK IT'S GOT ONE FOOT OF FLUSH CURB ON EACH SIDE OF IT.
SO IT'S REALLY 20 FEET OF THE DRIVE LANE.
BUT AS DEMONSTRATED YOU, IF YOU LOOKED AT IT IN YOUR PACKET, YOU CAN SEE, LEMME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO WORK FOR ME HERE.
OH, DIDN'T MEAN FOR IT TO WORK THAT GOOD TWO WRONG PAGE.
IT ENCROACH, IT ENCROACHES OVER THE 22 FOOT DRIVE LANE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER OF THAT.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT INCLUDES AN AUTOMOBILE TURN EXHIBIT.
HOWEVER, IT DEMONSTRATES THAT A VEHICLE IS UNABLE TO EXECUTE THE TURNAROUND WITHOUT ENCROACHING OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVE LANE.
UH, STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS THAT THE DUMPSTER BE RELOCATED AS IT IS TOO CLOSE TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT THAT'S THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, NORTH OF THAT ACCESS DRIVE.
AND ACTUALLY THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT IS ON HICKORY TRACE ADJACENT TO THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO THEIR FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
SO THIS DUMPSTER IS LOCATED VERY CLOSE TO THE FRONT DOOR OF, OF THAT PROPERTY.
HERE'S THE SITE PLAN A LITTLE BIT CLOSER UP.
UM, THIS IS THE 22 FOOT ACCESS DRIVE PARKING TO THE RIGHT.
THESE ARE THE CARRIAGE HOUSES.
THESE, THIS IS THE TWO STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE MIXED USE STRUCTURES WITH COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, RESIDENTIAL ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
THIS IS A COVERED SIDEWALK GOING ACROSS THE FRONT.
THERE'D ACTUALLY BE A, A, UH, THIS, THIS WOULD TIE TO A CROSSWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROVIDED COMMENTS
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ON THIS, THAT THEY'RE DOING A BOUNDARY, STREET, STREET CA, STREET SCAPE PROJECT RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT A CROSSWALK COULD BE PROVIDED HERE.HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO SHOWING A TIE BACK ONTO BOUNDARY STREET UP HERE.
UH, WE'D BE RECOMMENDING THAT THIS BE REMOVED ALTOGETHER, THAT THIS WOULDN'T BE A CONTINUED SIDEWALK GOING UP THIS SIDE OF BOUNDARY STREET.
THIS IS A LANDSCAPE PLAN PROVIDED WITH THE APPLICATION I CAN RETURN TO.
EITHER ONE OF THESE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH AND SECTION THREE TEN THREE A OF THE UDO AND ASSESSING THE APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THESE ARE THE CRITERIA, THE RESPONSIVE CRITERIA WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IN THE STAFF REPORT PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED, APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS, TABLE THE APPLICATION, OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
SHOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS, TOWN STAFF FINDS THAT THE FOLLOWING CONDITION SHOULD BE MET PRIOR TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
APPROVAL TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH UDO SECTION THREE TEN THREE A ONE WOULD BE TO RELOCATE THE DUMPSTER TO MINIMIZE IMPACT ON THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
TWO WOULD BE REVISE THE SITE PLAN TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE VEHICLE TURNAROUND.
AND THREE WOULD BE COORDINATE ALL UTILITY CONNECTIONS WITH THE TOWN AND UTILITY PROVIDERS TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH ONGOING CAPITAL, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
UH, HAVE A SUGGESTED MOTION, BUT I'LL JUMP TO THE QUESTION SLIDE AND OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO DOWN.
RELL, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, I WOULD, BUT IF YOU'D LIKE I CAN.
WELL, I, I'D, I'D RATHER HEAR FROM YOU NOW IF IT'S OKAY.
STATE YOUR NAME AND STATE THE PROJECT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE OUR DISCUSSION.
AND IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE CAN.
RANDOLPH STEWART, OUR STEWARD DESIGN.
UH, I'VE DESIGNED QUITE A FEW THINGS FROM BLUFFTON OVER THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS.
CALHOUN PROMENADE, STOCK FARM, TAVI ROADS, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS.
I AGREE WITH, WITH ALL OF THEM.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I ACTUALLY HAVE 12 PARKING SPACES.
THERE'S TWO, ONE, THERE'S A PLAN THAT I GAVE THAT'S NOT IN THE PACKAGE, BUT I HAVE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
THERE'S TWO PARKING SPACES THERE.
SO WE, SO WE'VE DISCUSSED THE, UM, BY THE WAY, THE CIVIL ENGINEER, NATHAN STEREO IS HERE ALSO AS WELL AS THE OWNER.
BUT, UM, THAT WE CAN USE THAT SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL BACKUP SPACE FOR THE TURNAROUND THAT'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AS FAR AS THE DEMPSEY DUMPS ARE CONCERNED, UH, WE'LL MAKE IT SMALLER.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A COVERED WALKWAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING BEFORE WE GET TO BOUNDARY STREET.
AND WE DID THAT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE ASSISTANCE CAN USE THAT COVERED WALKWAY TO PASS FROM GREEN STREET TO BOUNDARY STREET.
SO THERE WOULD BE COVERED, COVERED WALKWAY AND A SIDEWALK THERE.
UM, WHAT I NEED TO ADDRESS, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A 12 FOOT EASEMENT ON THE, UM, EAST SIDE.
WE FELT IT WAS TOO SMALL AND INHIBIT, WE ELIMINATED THE 12 FOOT EASEMENT AND WE WENT WITH THE CENTER ROAD.
AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT CENTER ROAD, IT'S ALL GONNA BE A BRICK, OUS, BRICK, PAPERS, HANDSET, BRICK.
OKAY? SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD GRAVEL, THEN WE WENT TO ASPHALT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE BACK TO AN AESTHETIC BRICK, UH, ON THAT ROAD.
UM, YOU CAN'T USE BOUNDARY AT THE TOP.
I MEAN, UH, GREEN STREET, GREEN STREET'S THE ONLY WAY IN RIGHT NOW.
UM, BOTH THE CARRIAGE HOUSES AND THE COMMERCIAL MIXED USE HOUSES, BUILDINGS ARE, ARE VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH THE ARCHITECTURE SCALE AND FEEL OF, UM, OLD TOWN BUFFET, ESPECIALLY IN THE A POINT THERE.
IMPORTANT AREA THAT YOU CLEANED OUT THERE.
UM, AND THERE WOULD BE FOOT TRAFFIC, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE DID COVERED WALKWAY FOR FOOT TRAFFIC.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE OWNERS HERE AS WELL AS THE CIVIL ENGINEER.
UM, GOOD JOB WITH THAT AS NATHAN STORY ALWAYS DOES.
WHO WANTS TO START WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU WANNA START? WILL YEAH, I'LL TALK.
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SO STAFF REPORT, DAN, YOU CLAIM THAT IN THE, IN THE STAFF REPORT, JUST PARAPHRASING THAT IT, IT MET THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OF OF THE UDO, UM, THAT I'M CONCERNED.UDO 5 33 C REGARDING LANDSCAPING BRINGS UP THE ISSUE OF THE TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED.
UM, AND TO PARAPHRASE, BASICALLY EVERY CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE TAKEN IN SITE PLANTING TO PRESERVE THE TREES THAT ARE ON SITE.
UM, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR HERE THAT ALL CONSIDERATION WAS NOT ALL EFFORT WAS NOT MADE TO PRESERVE THE TREES, ESPECIALLY THE LIVE OAK THAT, UM, WAS RECOMMENDED TO BE RETAINED BY THE ARBORIST REPORT.
UM, SO THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE.
BUILDING FOOTPRINTS COULD BE REDUCED, BUILDINGS COULD BE BUILT ON PIERS TO PRESERVE THE ROOT SYSTEM, NOT IN IMPACT THE, THE ROOT SYSTEM, UM, UNDER THE DRIP LINE.
UM, AND I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHERE ANY OF THAT WAS CONSIDERED BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, EVERY BIT OF THE, I THINK 75% IMPERVIOUS IS ALLOWED HERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE EVERY BIT OF IT WAS UTILIZED.
UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE POSSIBLY SOME RECONSIDERATION FOR THAT.
UM, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TURNING MOVEMENTS, UM, IN THE DRIVE AISLE.
UM, THE TURNING EXHIBIT THAT WAS PROVIDED SHOWS YOU HAVE TO ENTER INTO THE GARAGE TO MAKE A TURNING MOVEMENT.
UM, SO I, I HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT UPDATED.
UM, ALSO THERE WAS REFERENCE, UM, BY THE APPLICANT TO PREVIOUS PAVERS, BUT ALL THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE PRESENTED ARE SHOWING SAN PAVERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, UPDATE YOUR, YOUR, UH, APPLICATION PACKAGE TO REFLECT THAT.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS POINT.
I'M SURE HAVE TO, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA GO DOWN THE LINE HERE, BUT SOON AS YOU BROUGHT UP THE ARBORIST REPORT.
DAN, DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT YOU CAN BRING UP OR NO? UH, IF NOT, THAT'S OKAY.
THERE, THERE, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF HICKORY, UM, I'M SORRY, LAUREL OAKS ON THERE.
THAT, THAT ARE TOWARD END OF LIFE.
UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY ON THE ARB.
SPECIFICALLY ON THE ARBORIST REPORT, THERE'S A MAGNOLIA THAT'S, UM, POINTED OUT AS BEING IN GOOD LOCATION.
UH, AS OF THREE YEARS AGO, IT WAS ALMOST A SEVEN INCH MAGNOLIA.
IT HAPPENS TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF WHERE ONE OF THE CARRIAGE HOUSES A PROPOSED IN THE THEIST RECOMMENDED THAT IT BE REMOVED 'CAUSE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO AN ADJACENT TREE.
BUT THE ADJACENT TREE IS ALSO SUGGESTING TO BE REMOVED.
SO IN MY OPINION, UH, THAT MAGNOLIA AND THAT LIVE OAK, UH, THIS SITE PLAN NEEDS TO BE DONE AROUND THOSE TWO TREES AT A BARE MINIMUM.
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, 'CAUSE YOU BROUGHT UP THE LIVE OAK.
UM, ANY COMMENTS, UH, JUST CLARIFICATION MR. STEWART, YOU THOUGH, REGARDING THE DUMPSTER, DID YOU SAY YOU WOULD MAKE IT SMALLER OR THAT IT WOULD BE RELOCATED SMALLER? RELOCATED AND ALSO, YEAH, I THINK THIS IS THE EFFECT ON WITH THAT, THE LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY, IF IT'S CONTAINED WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE GONNA BE, THAT ARE GONNA BE UTILIZING IT.
SO IT'S NOT AN EYESORE THAT IT'S NOT PEST CONTROL ISSUE FOR THAT NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
AND IT, THE DUMPSTER NEEDS TO BE LOCATED OUT, I'LL SAY MORE CENTRAL TO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT ALL THE WAY DOWN AT THE END.
COMMISSIONER, I HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT A GREEN STREET.
I WAS JUST DOWN, UM, LOOKING AT THIS, THE TREES ON THIS PROPERTY AND THE STREET, UM, SEEING THE GREEN STREET WAS THE ACCESS IT'S ALREADY GOT, IT'S ALREADY VERY WORN.
THERE'S, THERE'S HOLES IN IT, IT'S DIRT, IT'S A DIRT ROAD.
ANYWAYS, WAS THERE NOTHING PLANNED ON IMPROVING AT LEAST TO THAT, TO THAT DRIVE FOR GREEN STREET? YES.
IT'S UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RECOGNIZED AS A, AS A GHOST ROAD.
IT, IT CAN'T BE IMPROVED ON RIGHT NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YEAH, UH, BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, THAT THAT IS A CONCERN I HAD WRITTEN DOWN HERE TOO, IS CAN WE ALLOW ACCESS OFF OF A GHOST ROAD THAT NOBODY OWNS? SO, UM, AS Y'ALL KNOW, RICHARDSON BRUCE FROM PING MOUNT AND BROOKS AND BRUCE HERE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I SAY THAT FOR THE FOLKS WHO, WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR.
UM, SO YOU ASKED ABOUT GREEN STREET BEING A GHOST ROAD.
SO GHOST ROADS, AS Y'ALL KNOW, ARE ROADS THAT HAVE AN UNCLEAR OWNERSHIP
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ORIGIN.SO WHO WAS THE LAST RECORD HOLDER OF THOSE TOWN OF BLUFFTON CONTENDS AND BELIEVES AND HAS, YOU KNOW, TOWN COUNCIL HAS PASSED A NUMBER OF RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES DECLARING THAT THOSE ARE PUBLIC RIGHTS AWAY.
THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PUBLICLY DEDICATED BY USE OVER THE YEARS, AND THEY'VE BEEN IN OPERATION LARGELY SINCE, AS FAR AS WE KNOW, THE 1840S, 1850S.
SO THOSE ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC ROADS.
DESPITE THE QUESTIONS OF UNCLEAR OWNERSHIP, UH, THERE ARE NO PLANS AT THIS MOMENT THAT I'M AWARE OF TO DO ANY SORT OF IMPROVEMENTS LIKE PAVING OR STREETSCAPE ON GREEN STREET.
SOME OF THE OTHER GHOST ROADS MAY GET THAT AT SOME POINT, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY PLANS.
I THINK LIMITED PLANS FOR EXTENSION OF SANITARY SEWER AND PERHAPS MAYBE SOME, UH, EVENTUALLY SOME STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.
SO YES, THEY CAN USE A GHOST ROAD AS THEIR PRIMARY MEANS OF ACCESS BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY ARE PUBLICLY DEDICATED.
UH, THE QUESTION OF OWNERSHIP MAY STILL EXIST, BUT PUBLIC DEDICATION MEANS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT AND THE PUBLIC BODY HAS THE OBLIGATION TO, TO MAINTAIN TO A LEVEL, UH, A STANDARD LEVEL.
NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ANY INTENT TO PAVE THAT.
I THINK THE IDEA IS TO KEEP THE GHOST ROADS IN BLUFFTON AS TRADITIONAL AS THEY ARE.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY AND AT THE TOWN COUNCIL LEVEL TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEIR CURRENT AESTHETIC.
SO WITH THAT SAID, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE ON THE CONDITION OF THAT ROAD AND THE CONTINU DETERIORATION OF THAT ROAD, UM, BOTH FOR THE NEIGHBORS, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT ROAD AND USE IT.
UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY BIG CONCERN.
AND WHO'S GONNA MAINTAIN THAT? HOW'S THAT GONNA BE MAINTAINED? BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE GETTING INCREASED COUNTS IN THAT, THAT DRIVE.
SO CONCRETE APRON, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK APPROPRIATELY WITH THE TRANSITION FROM DIRT TO CONCRETE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA WORK THAT WELL.
NUMBER ONE, AS A, AS A PUBLIC ROAD.
THE TOWN WILL DO PUBLIC WORKS WILL COME OUT THERE AND SCRAPE IT.
UM, THE REALITY IS IF, YOU KNOW, CONTINUED WEAR AND TEAR ON ANY OF THE ROADS MAY CHANGE WHAT THE PLANS ARE.
AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE CONCERN AND PART OF WHAT TOWN COUNCIL HAS TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
THE OTHER, ANOTHER COMMENT THAT I HAD AND, AND I HAD SOME OF THE SAME COMMENTS FROM EARLIER AND SOME OF THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS, UM, THE SCREENING ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THAT PROPERTY TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE OF MY CONCERNS WHEN I SAW THIS PLAN.
HAVING THAT PARKING RIGHT UP ON THAT PROPERTY LINE AND LANDSCAPE IS GREAT, BUT SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH.
IF IT'S, UH, PANELING OF, OF SOME SORT, SECTIONS OF FENCES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, HOG BIN LATTICE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONALLY THOUGHT THROUGH FOR THAT.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER BIG CONCERN IS THAT DUMPSTER, UM, THAT DUMPSTER LOCATION, 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO THAT HOUSE TO THE NORTH ACROSS FROM, UM, HICKORY TREE HICKORY.
I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THAT SIDEWALK.
UM, SO I WANTED TO ADD THAT I LIKE THAT GOING AND CONTINUING ON.
I KNOW THERE'S SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE LIKE THAT.
SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT EFFORT RIGHT THERE OF HAVING THAT WALK AND HAVING IT COVERED BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER, OTHER PLACES, UM, IN BLUFFTON THAT'LL, THAT OFFERS THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL I CALL, UH, I SHARE ALL OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED.
UM, I THINK FOR ME, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AT DRC, THE TREES MAKE THIS UNPROVABLE TO ME PERSONALLY, UM, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THERE'S BEEN NO EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING CANOPY, ESPECIALLY THE 30 INCH LIVE OAK AND THE MAGNOLIA.
UM, I ALSO THINK REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE DUMPSTER IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
IT NEEDS TO BE RELOCATED AND THE TURNING NEEDS TO OCCUR WITHOUT GOING INTO LANDSCAPE BEDS OR INTO BUILDINGS.
UM, SO I JUST DON'T THINK THE SITE LAYOUT WORKS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE PERVIOUS PAVING IS DETAILED CORRECTLY TO ACTUALLY FUNCTION AS PERVIOUS, WHICH IS NOT THE SAME THING AS JUST BEING SAND SET.
UM, I'M, I'M UPSET WITH ALL THOSE TREES COMING DOWN, ESPECIALLY THE LIVE OAK AND THE, UH, MAGNOLIA.
UH, AND AND I, THE TURNAROUND JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD WORK AT ALL.
YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY HAVING TO BACK UP INTO SOMEBODY'S GARAGE UNDERNEATH
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THE CARRIAGE HOUSE.IF THIS THING IS, IF EVERYBODY'S PARKED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY GETS IN OR OUT OF THERE.
AND IF AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE EVER HAD TO GET IN AND OUT, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN NO CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHEN YOU SEE THE PARKING EXHIBIT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
UM, I SHARE, I SHARE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.
UM, I DO WANNA PAUSE FOR A SECOND.
UM, AND MATTER OF FACT, UH, MR. ICARD, YOU MAY, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS, THE UPCOMING BOUNDARY STREETSCAPE PROJECT.
ARE WE PLANNING ON A SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE? DO WE NOT KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME? ARE WE PLANNING ON IT BOTH SIDES ONE SIDE OR WE'RE JUST NOT THERE YET? LET ME DO SOME QUICK RESEARCH AND I'LL, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT REAL QUICK.
BECAUSE THAT, THAT PLAYS INTO KIND OF THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, ALSO FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE, FOR MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE, UM, UM, BOUNDARY STREET, STREET SCAPE IS ABOUT TO START WITHIN THE NEXT, I WOULD SAY 12 MONTHS.
UM, THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES ON THERE, AND THERE'S BEEN VERY SERIOUS DISCUSSION, WHICH I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF PUTTING A FOUR-WAY STOP AT LAWRENCE AND BOUNDARY TO KEEP THAT RACE CAR EFFECT FROM HAPPENING.
SO, UM, ANYONE I'VE TALKED TO HAS BEEN IN FAVOR OF THAT, OF THAT STOP JUST TO HELP WITH IT.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, BACK TO THIS PROJECT, UM, I DON'T USE THESE WORDS LIGHTLY.
I THINK THERE'S RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN OLD TOWN, AND I THINK THERE'S DEVELOPMENT THAT TRIES TO CRAM EVERYTHING IT CAN ONTO A PARTICULAR LOT.
AND MY FEAR IS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.
UM, IT RELATES TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY ON MAIDEN LANE.
UM, THE TREES AREN'T ACCOUNTED FOR.
UM, THERE IS DEVELOPMENT IN PRETTY MUCH EVERY PART OF THIS LOT THAT TECHNICALLY COULD BE PER THE CODE.
THE, UM, WHILE THERE IS A NICE FRONT PORCH SIDEWALK, MY CONCERN IS IF, IF THERE IS A SIDEWALK ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF BOUNDARY THAT, UM, THERE'RE GONNA BE BUSINESSES HERE THAT PUT THEIR PRODUCTS OUT ON THE SIDEWALK SO THAT SIDEWALK BECOMES AN UNUSABLE SIDEWALK.
UM, AND I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, INTENTIONALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY AN EFFORT TO, UM, KINDA GET THAT BUILDING UP ON THE SIDEWALK INSTEAD OF BUILDING A SIDEWALK PROPER.
UM, I'VE GOT A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT TO THE POINT WHERE I, I SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND THERE ARE SIX OF US UP HERE, BUT I WOULD WANNA SEE IT DRASTICALLY REWORKED BEFORE WE SAW IT AGAIN.
AND WE DID ADDRESS IT, UM, IN PLAN AND DRC, UH, WE ADDRESSED A NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED BETWEEN THEN AND NOW.
UM, YEAH, AND, AND TO THAT, CHARLIE, I, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT NO, GO AHEAD.
WERE THE, UM, I SEE, I SEE WHERE COMMENTS, THERE WAS A SUBMITTAL WITH SOME REDLINE COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT, BUT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY EXHIBITS THAT ACCOMPANIED THOSE REDLINE COMMENTS.
UM, B AND P EXHIBITS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE STORMWATER.
UM, WERE, WERE THERE IS, IS THIS THE FULL APPLICATION? THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL STORMWATER ITEMS AND IT, IT COULD HAVE BEEN COMPLIANCE CALCULATOR.
WE, WE TYPICALLY DON'T TAKE THAT TO PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA DO A FULL STORMWATER PERMIT SUBMITTAL.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY ADDRESSED ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF DRC.
THEY DID NOT, THEIR RESPONSE TO COMMENTS WAS KIND OF SPORADIC.
THEY HAD SOMEWHERE THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO 'EM AT ALL, AND THE, THE THREE COMMENT WAS TOTALLY IGNORED.
YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S THE, I GUESS THAT WAS MY POINT, WAS THEY, THEY KIND OF ADDRESSED THE SELECTIVELY THE COMMENT AND I WOULD AGREE.
AND, AND DON'T, I, I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SAY THIS IN WITH THE APPLICANT IN THE ROOM.
UM, IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT DEVELOPMENT ON THESE LOTS, WE JUST WANT IT TO BE DONE.
WELL, WE WANT IT TO BE DONE RESPONSIBLE.
WE WANT IT TO FIT IN WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I LIVE MAYBE TWO BLOCKS FROM THERE AND I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF PUTTING AN ADDITION ON MY HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT BIGGER THAN IT WAS, BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE LOT AND THE NEIGHBORS.
AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REWORKED.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE SENSE WE'RE GETTING OFF THE COMMISSION.
CAN I SPEAK PLEASE? YES, SIR, PLEASE.
ERIC, COME, UH, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND YOUR HOME ADDRESS AND THEN PLEASE.
AND YOU'RE, YOU ARE THE APPLICANT,
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UH, HUSBAND OF ERIC FREELANDER, I FEEL FOR YOU.WE, FIRST OF ALL, WE LOVE OLD TOWN.
I WANNA DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT THIS WAS AN INVESTMENT.
WE'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS NOW OVER THREE AND A HALF, FOUR YEARS NOW, POINTING FINGERS, WHAT HAVE YOU.
HAVE WE MAXED IT OUT TO THE CODE? YES, WE HAVE, BUT THERE'S A CODE AND THERE ARE LIMITS.
WHAT DO YOU FOLKS WANNA SEE ON THE PROPERTY WHERE IT COULD MAKE SENSE FOR ME AND WE CAN GET SOMETHING APPROVED? WHAT DIRECTION SHOULD WE HEAD? I THINK THE BEST PERSON TO ARTICULATE THAT AS WELL, AND GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING WITH THE TREES IS, AND THAT'S THE MAJOR CONCERN.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'S, I GET IT'S CONFUSING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FORM-BASED CODE THAT'S IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE THE MAXIMUM LIMITS, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S THE MAXIMUM LIMITS THAT MAY NECESSARILY WORK WHEN YOU TAKE IN DESIGN, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE DESIGN AS ASPECTS.
BUT, SO YOU CAN YOU GIVE US, GIVE ME AND, AND THE TEAM, SO THE LIVE OAKS VERY IMPORTANT.
SO YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THAT LIVE OAKS SAVED, PRESERVED MM-HMM
SO THAT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE NEW SUBMITTING AND, AND, AND DESIGN AND DESIGN THE BUILDING CLOSEST TO THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE IMPACT ON THAT LIVE OAK.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT TO MAKE THAT WORK.
OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET CREATIVE ON THE DESIGN SO THAT IT'S DESIGNED WITHIN, AND LYDIA CAN SPEAK TO THE ARCHITECTURE, BUT I'VE, I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN.
UM, I MEAN, WE HAVE IT IN PALM BLUFF THAT, THAT THINGS WERE, WERE MEASURED SPECIFICALLY LEADERS OF LIVE OAKS WERE MEASURED SPECIFICALLY, AND THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED TO THE TREE.
UM, I MEAN, I, SO WELL, AND I MEAN, I I I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA CREATE YOUR, YOUR PLAN FOR YOU.
I'M HAPPY TO, BUT I, SO MY, I DON'T WANNA KEEP MY BALL ROLLING, MY EXPENSES ROLLING.
I JUST, JUST WANT TO TRY TO REALLY YEAH.
GET A GRIP ON WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING.
YOU, LIKE I SAID, I, I'M, I'M PARAPHRASING, BUT IT IS, AGAIN, IT'S THE, THE LANDSCAPE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN THE DESIGN AND SAVING OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT TREES.
ALL EFFORTS SHOULD BE MADE TO, TO PRESERVE TREES IN THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY THE 30 INCH LIVE OAK THAT IS DEEMED A SIGNIFICANT TREE IN THE STANDARDS OF THE, THE UDO.
UM, I, THE, THE DRIVE AISLES, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST SIMPLE.
YOU HAVE A DEAD END DRIVE AISLE.
THERE'S NO THAT YOU CAN'T TURN A, THERE'S NO TURNING MOVEMENT WHERE THAT CAR CAN GET IN AND OUT.
SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO RECONSIDER HOW YOU GET CARS INTO AND EXIT ENGINEER EGS, MY ENGINEER, COMMENT ON THAT.
BUT WE'LL REALLY LOOK CLOSELY AT THAT.
UM, THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER BROCK MADE ABOUT, OR, OR WAS IT RICH, UH, THAT MADE, UM, COMMISSIONER DELCO MADE ABOUT TURNING MOVEMENTS? YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE GARAGE PROBABLY TO MAKE A TURNING MOVEMENT IN, IN THE, IN THAT DRIVE AISLE.
HERE, HERE, HERE'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.
UM, THERE'S A REASON FOR THE PROCESS AND WE WENT TO DRC AND THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE IN THE DRC MEETINGS.
THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE BEFORE AND AFTER THE DRC MEETING AND THEY WERE NOT ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BEFORE SHOWING UP TODAY.
SO, I MEAN, TO BE ALL, TO BE FLAT OUT HONEST, IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE NOT TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.
THAT WE'RE TELLING YOU CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND THOSE THINGS HAVEN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.
EVEN CONVERSATIONS, ANYTHING BEING ADDRESSED ON THAT.
AND HERE WE ARE, AND YOU'RE, WELL, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, SO IT'S, YEAH, IT'S, I DON'T WANNA POINT FINGERS, SO NO, AND I, I'M NOT TRYING TO POINT FINGERS EITHER, BUT THERE, THERE IS, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE WHERE THINGS ARE BROUGHT UP, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.
UM, I THINK THE CHANGES COULD BE MADE TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
UM, I THINK CONVERSATIONS, AND THIS IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU, THIS IS NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS TO GET THEM ON BOARD WITH AND THEM GIVE YOU A LITTLE FEEDBACK, LIKE THE FENCE IDEA IS PROBABLY NOT A BAD IDEA OR SOME TYPE OF GREENERY ALONG THE BACK.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND, AND IT IS YOUR DECISION TO, UM, TABLE THIS, BUT I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND WITH, UM,
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HOW DO WE DO IT OFFICIALLY, DAN, IS IT TABLING OR IS IT THEY WITHDRAW? THEY DON'T WITHDRAW TO WITHDRAW, THEY DON'T WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION.SO YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO APPROVE, APPROVE THE CONDITIONS, OR DENY THE APPLICANT CAN WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION FOR, UH, CONSIDERATION AT TONIGHT'S MEETING AND THEN PROCEED FORWARD ONCE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING THEIR APPLICATION CLOSER INTO PLANNING COMMISSION'S EXPECTATIONS.
AND, AND HISTORICALLY, HISTORICALLY, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DO AND YOU WANT TO MEET WITH A COUPLE OF COMMISSION MEMBERS AND THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT TO HELP YOU WITH A LITTLE BIT OF FEED, BUT YOU CAN'T MEET WITH THE WHOLE COMMISSION, UM, UH, FOR BRINGING BACK, THAT CAN HELP YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO WHERE, TO WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT, UM, I THINK YOU GET A SENSE OF WHERE IT'S PROBABLY GONNA GO TONIGHT.
I, SO I WOULD LIKE TO OPTION C WHATEVER, TO TO WITHDRAW.
UM, IF WE, IF I COULD MEET WITH A FEW OF YOU FOLKS AT SOME POINT, THEN REALLY WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
SO, UH, LET'S WORK WITH, UM, DAN, I HATE TO PUT SOMETHING ELSE ON YOUR PLATE, I'M SORRY.
UM, LET'S WORK TO SEE, ARE THERE A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO MEET WITH HIM, UM, AND DISCUSS SOME OF THESE? WILL WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO YEAH, I CAN.
I'D HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE SCHEDULE, BUT YEAH.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, AND LYDIA, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE ARCHITECTURE PROBABLY BE, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH EVERYONE ELSE, THAT'D BE GREAT DAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND FACILITATING THAT.
HEY, GOOD EVENING, NATHAN URRY, STIR ENGINEERING.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS SAID.
JUST IN A HOPE TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND KIND OF A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE'RE AT HERE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE FENCING AND THE DUMPSTER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN EASILY, EASILY BE HANDLED.
UM, IN TERMS OF A DUMPSTER, I MEAN, WOULD, WOULD ROLL AWAY FOR EACH UNIT WHY WE HAVE SERVICE YARDS AND WE GOT A GARAGE TO KEEP 'EM IN IF WE JUST REMOVE THE DUMPSTER ALTOGETHER, WOULD THAT FIT KIND OF EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS? YEAH.
IN TERMS OF THE FENCING, AGAIN, WE'LL, WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
CAN I GO BACK ONE? I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT HERE.
SO WHAT I'M SHOWING, A CAR DOES NOT HAVE TO COME IN AND PULL INTO THE GARAGE IN ORDER TO BACK OUT.
JUST LIKE ANY DEAD END ROAD, IT'S GONNA COME IN.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE THERE, YOU'RE GONNA BACK OUT AND GO.
WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS THE, THE MOST REMOTE SPOT THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO GET TO PARK AND THEN BACK OUT AND LEAVE.
AND YOU CAN SEE I WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE TIRES WITHIN THE DRIVE AISLE.
SO MY SOLUTION TO THIS REALLY IS IF WE JUST EXTEND THAT DRIVE AISLE ANOTHER FIVE FEET, COULDN'T WE JUST, I'LL REDO THE EXHIBIT.
AND, UM, I THINK ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS ON THE TURNAROUND WILL BE ADDRESSED.
WE'RE UNDER 150 FEET IN LENGTH, SO WE DON'T NEED A TURNAROUND TECHNICALLY PER THE CODE.
UM, THE TREES, YOU KNOW, THE 30 INCH LIVE OAK, IT, IT'S NOT A PRETTY TREE, BUT WE CAN SAVE THAT PER OUR PLAN.
THE SEVEN INCH MAGNOLIA, UM, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR CARRIAGE HOUSE.
YOU'D HAVE TO MOVE THE CARRIAGE HOUSE OR I MEAN, COULD WE PROPOSE, UH, A REPLACEMENT TREE IN LIEU OF THAT? I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEVEN INCH MAGNOLIA.
SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? WHAT IS THE, WHEN IS THE SURVEY FROM? UM, THE SURVEY WAS PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.
OKAY, WELL IT'S NOT A SEVEN INCH MAGNOLIA ANYMORE.
SO AGAIN, IS THERE LIKE A, A MITIGATION POTENTIALLY WE COULD DO FOR THAT TREE THAT YOU GUYS SEE THAT WE CAN MAYBE BEEF UP ONE OF THE PLANTING TREES TO A FOUR INCH? UM, THAT, THAT MAY ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN? WE'LL, WE'LL DROP ANOTHER MAGNOLIA IF YOU GUYS LIKE.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE OUT OF CONSIDERATION.
UM, WE OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL REMOVE THE CROSSWALK UP AT HICKORY TRACE.
UM, I, I DID WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW I WORKED WITH THE CIP FOLKS ON THEIR BOUNDARY STREET STREETSCAPE AND PLANNED OUR UTILITY PLAN AND THE SIDEWALK PLAN AROUND IT WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE NOT SHOWING A SIDEWALK RIGHT UP ON BOUNDARY STREET, THERE IS NOT ONE PROPOSED ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND THEY, THEY WOULD LIKE A, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A COVERED WALKWAY, THEY NEED AN EASEMENT FOR THE DOMINION EASEMENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO AFTER.
SO THEY WANT FIVE FOOT INTO THE PROPERTY FOR THE DOMINION EASEMENT.
SO WE HAD TO SET THAT, SET THAT SIDEWALK BACK FIVE FEET OFF THAT SIDEWALK.
UM, AND THEN THE GREEN STREET, THIS CAME UP IN THE DRC, UM, WHETHER GREEN STREET IMPROVEMENTS WERE
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WERE GONNA BE REQUIRED, WHICH, UM, IT, IT CAME OUT THAT THEY WERE NOT GONNA BE REQUIRED IN TERMS OF THE END TREATMENT WHERE THE CONCRETE'S GONNA MEET THE DIRT ROAD WITHOUT CONSTANT MAINTENANCE.THAT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
IT ASPHALT, NO MATTER WHAT MATERIAL YOU USE THERE, IT'S GONNA BE A FAILING POINT.
SO GENERALLY WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE TYING SOMETHING UP LIKE THAT, YOU DROP A HEAD, A CONCRETE HEADER CURB THERE, AND THAT'S ABOUT AS GOOD AS WE CAN GET IT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A DIRT ROPE.
UNLESS SAY WE, WE PROPOSE GRAVEL, WHICH I KNOW, UM, THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE OPEN TO POTENTIALLY HELPING ON GREEN STREET IF POSSIBLE.
BUT IT, FROM WHAT MR. LABREE SAID, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TOWN WANTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THESE CONCERNS CAN KIND OF LIKE EASE YOUR DECISION.
I THINK IT'S SOME SIMPLE TWEAKS TO THIS PLAN.
UM, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT DAN, HOW DO I GO FORWARD? OH, THIS, UM, RIGHT HERE, WE GOT A BIG ISLAND RIGHT HERE WHERE WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE A NEW TREE.
ALL WE GOTTA DO IS SHIFT THAT BACK AROUND THAT LIVE OAK AND THEN AT THE TIME OF ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LOOK AT FOOTINGS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I THAT'S A BIG ONE FOR YOU LYDIA.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL ISLAND AT ALL.
NOR IS THAT LARGE ENOUGH TO ADDRESS SAVING THAT LIVE OAK IN MY OPINION.
WELL WE CAN PLAY AROUND WITH THAT.
BUT IF WE ARE ABLE TO SAVE THAT LIVE OAK AND, AND INCLUDE IN THE PLAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE PUT EYES ON THAT LIVE OAK.
IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE PRETTIEST TREE IN THE WORLD AND IT'S SOMETHING ELSE WOULD LOOK BETTER THERE, I THINK.
BUT WE CAN SAVE THAT IF THAT'S THE HOLD UP.
HARLEY, CAN RESIDENT SPEAK OR NOT? UH, NOT AT THIS POINT.
WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO STAY AFTERWARDS AND TALK TO YOU.
I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING HE SAID, BUT I, I'LL DO AFTER.
SO IF WE WOULD, LET'S MOVE ON TO
[VII.2. Parcel 11A (Development Plan): A request by Jake Reed on behalf of University Investments, LLC for approval of a Preliminary Development Plan application. The project consists of two (2) commercial buildings with associated infrastructure. The property is within the Buckwalter Planned Unit Development consists of approximately 8.8 acres identified by tax map number R610 030 000 0116 0000 and located at east of Buckwalter Parkway south of Buckwalter Towne Boulevard. (DP-02-25-019603) (Staff - Dan Frazier)]
ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA.PARCEL 11, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
A REQUEST BY JAKE REED ON BEHALF OF UNIVERSITY INVESTMENTS LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.
THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF TWO COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITH ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE BUCK WALTER PLAN.
UNIT DEVELOPMENT CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 8.8 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY TAX MEMBER IN THE AGENDA AND LOCATED EAST OF BUCKWALTER PARKWAY, SOUTH OF BUCKWALTER TOWN BOULEVARD, MR. FRAZIER.
THIS IS A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PROJECT CALLED PARCEL 11 A, THE REQUEST BY JAKE REED OF UNIVERSITY INVESTMENTS LLC FOR APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IT IS, UH, 8.88 ACRES SUBJECT PROPERTY AND IT'S LOCATED EAST OF BUCK WALTER PARKWAY AND SOUTH OF BUCK WALTER TOWN BOULEVARD.
APPLICANT PROPOSES A CONSTRUCTION OF TWO SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WITH THE ASSOCIATED ACCESS PARKING, UTILITIES, AND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ZONE BUCKWALTER, PUD AND IS WITHIN THE BUCKWALTER COMMONS PHASE ONE MASTER PLAN.
HERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE PARCEL, JUST JUST EAST OF BUCK WALTER PARKWAY, JUST SOUTH OF BUCK WALTERTOWN BOULEVARD.
THIS, THIS DOWN HERE IS THE SELF STORAGE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE ON BUCK WALTER BUCK WALTER PARKWAY.
HERE'S AN AERIAL OF THE SAME LOCATION.
IT'S ACTUALLY A PRIVATE ROAD THAT COMES UP HERE.
THEY'RE PROPOSING, UM, CONNECTING INTO IT AND THEY HAVE THE PROPER EASEMENTS ALREADY RECORDED SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT, THAT ALLOW FOR THEM TO DO SUCH A CONNECTION.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TWO SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 31,400 SQUARE FEET COMBINED WITH ASSOCIATED PARKING, UTILITIES, AND STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE SITE WILL BE ACCESSIBLE FROM BUCKWALTER PARKWAY WITH A SECONDARY ACCESS FROM THE EXTENSION OF CAROLINA BLUFF DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES A MIX OF OFFICE RETAIL AND FLEX SERVICE USES TO BE ACCOMMODATED BY 158 PARKING SPACES.
THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 157.
I SHOULD NOTE THAT, UH, PARKING SPACES AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED WOULD NOT ALLOW RESTAURANT USE AT ALL WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH REQUIRES ADDITIONAL PARKING.
THE BUCK WALTER PUD IDENTIFIES A FUTURE ALIGNMENT OF BUCK WALTER PARKWAY ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE FUTURE ALIGNMENT IS NOT REFLECTED ON THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE CONNECTION THROUGH THE PARCEL AND THEY'VE LEFT CONSIDERABLE AREA UNDER THE POWER LINE EASEMENTS FOR THE FUTURE CONNECTION STAFF COMMENTS WERE REVIEWED AT THE MARCH 26TH, 2025 DRC MEETING.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSED A RESPONSE TO
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PROVIDED THE RESPONSE TO COMMENTS AND REVISED SITE PLANS ON MARCH 31.THIS IS THE BUCKWALTER PUD CONCEPT MASTER PLAN.
UM, AND HERE IS THE EXTENSION OF THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT MASTER PLAN.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS SAYING IS NOT REFLECTED IN THE SITE PLAN.
UH, THIS IS BUCK WALTER COMMONS PHASE ONE MASTER PLAN.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ABOUT THE TOP HALF OF THIS PARCEL.
11 ON THE ALLOWED USES ARE GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE ZDSO, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY JUST ABOUT EVERY COMMERCIAL USE THAT'S AVAILABLE.
UH, WE GOT SITE PLANS SPREAD OUT OVER TWO PAGES.
TO YOUR LEFT IS BUCK WALTER PARKWAY.
THEY WOULD BE GETTING ACCESS OFF OF BUCK WALTER PARKWAY.
UM, I'M ASSUMING, BUT IT WASN'T CALLED OUT THAT THESE WOULD BE BAY DOORS IN THE BACK AND THAT IS WHY THE PARKING DRIVE ABUTS AGAINST THE PROPERTIES.
UM, I'LL JUMP TO THE SECOND PAGE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENSION OF THE SITE PLAN.
ACTUALLY, THE ROAD WRAPS COMPLETELY AROUND.
THIS ALSO SHOWS CAROLINA BLUFF DRIVE CONNECTION.
THIS TAKES YOU DOWN CAROLINA BLUFF IS WHERE UH, PARKER'S IS AT THAT LOCATION.
PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE CRITERIA SET FORTH IN SECTION THREE TEN THREE A OF THE UDO IN ASSESSING AN APPLICATION FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THESE ARE THE CRITERIA AND THE RESPONSE TO THE STAFF'S RESPONSE TO THESE CRITERIA WERE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS, TABLE THE APPLICATION, OR DENY THE APPLICATION AS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
SHOULD PLANNING COMMISSION CHOOSE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONS, TOWN STAFF FINDS THAT THE FOLLOWING CONDITION SHOULD BE MET PRIOR TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
APPROVAL TO BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH UDO SECTION THREE TEN THREE A.
AND THAT IS TO PROVIDE AN EXHIBIT AT TIME OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL THAT ILLUSTRATES HOW A FUTURE ALIGNMENT OF BLUFF AND PARKWAY, WHICH AT AN 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, COULD BE BUILT ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSED PARCEL 11.
SO THAT IS JUST PROVIDING AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THAT IT CAN ACCOMMODATE A, AN EXTENSION OF LUPTON PARKWAY IF THAT WERE TO BE THE CASE.
UM, AND I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THEM.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? NOT YET.
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME JAKE'S EVER TURNED DOWN ME TOO COMMISSION.
I'LL START DOWN ON THIS END THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ANYTHING HE'S THINKING IS, IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET THAT RIGHT, 80 FOOT RIGHT AWAY ON THIS PLAN? IS THAT, HAS THAT EVEN BEEN LOOKED AT BEFORE WE DESIGNED THE SITE? WE DID THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STILL QUALIFY THAT.
JAKE, I HATE TO TELL YOU THIS, BUT YOU GOTTA COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE 'CAUSE WE ARE BEING BROADCAST TOO.
UH, YES, WE HAVE, IN FACT, WHAT WE DID BEFORE WE DESIGNED THE SITE WAS WE LOOKED AROUND, UH, THE TOWN AND WHAT WE SPECIFICALLY HONED IN ON WAS A PIECE OF THE PARKWAY.
THIS IS DRIVING, UM, EASTBOUND AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE PARKWAY, IF YOU'RE GONNA CROSS OVER MALICE DRIVE, YOU KNOW WHERE THE LARGE CURVE IS.
AND UM, WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THE WIDTH AT THAT PORTION, AT A PRETTY BIG INTERSECTION, UH, GOING INTO AN INTERSECTION, I SHOULD SAY, WAS 85 FEET.
AND WE SAID, HEY LOOK, LET'S, LET'S ASSIGN AN 85 FOOT PORTION, UH, AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE TRACK SO THAT WE CAN STILL PROVIDE IN THE EVENT THAT IT WERE TO HAPPEN, UH, THE ABILITY FOR FIVE B TO BE BE PUT THERE.
WE, WE LOOKED AT THAT SPECIFIC AREA AND THEN WE PUT IT ON THE PLAN AND THEN DESIGNED IT.
SO YOU'RE AMENABLE TO SUBMITTING THAT? UM, I AM PROVIDED WE'RE NOT PUT IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST AN EXHIBIT AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE RIGHT.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO EXISTING AGREEMENT FOR A RIGHT OF WAY.
THERE ARE NO EASEMENTS IN PLACE.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A SUBMISSION ON OUR PART OF SAYING, UM, YES, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE AGREEING TO LET IT HAPPEN, PER SE.
THOSE THINGS STILL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT.
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UH, HOWEVER WE DO SUPPORT IT.WE'RE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST SUPPORTER OF FIVE B AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
UH, WE STILL RETAIN THAT POSITION.
THE BIG QUESTION IS YOU DESIGNED WITH THE PARAMETERS OF 80 OR NOW 85 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
SO THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WORKS FOR FIVE B SHOULD IT COME DOWN THE ROAD? I'M, I'M SORRY.
VERY THANKS FOR ANSWERING THAT.
YOU, YOU ANSWERED THAT'S HOW I PLAN.
AND JAKE, THE SITE, THE 85 FEET INCLUDES ACTIVITY PATHS AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY.
IT HAS TWO BIKE PATHS ON EITHER SIDE OF THIS AREA THAT SHOWS 85 FEET.
AND SO YOU'VE GOT BIKE PATHS AS WELL AS THE GRADING THAT'S NECESSARY TO FALL OFF ON EITHER SIDE IN THAT 85 FEET.
THIS, FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE COUNTY DESIGNED OVER BY HERITAGE LAKES AND THE LOWS AND ALL THAT, THEY HAD TO SQUEEZE IT IN REAL TIGHT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HE'S REFERENCING THERE.
AND IT DOES HAVE EVERYTHING WITHIN THAT MEASUREMENT.
BUT IT DOES HAVE ANY CU SAME THING? NO.
JUST TO CLARIFY, JAKE, THE, THE 85 FEET IS OUTSIDE OF YOUR LIMITS OF THE SERVICE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING? IT FOLLOWS THE RADIUS OF THE PROP PROPERTY LINE.
UH, CAN YOU REPEAT? I DON'T HAVE A POINTER, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY LINE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PARCEL? THAT WOULD BE NO, YOU'RE ASKING IS DOES THE 85 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY STAY WITHIN OUR PARCEL, RIGHT.
YOU NOT ONLY WILL YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF OUR PARCEL TO ACCOMMODATE THE FIVE B, BUT YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE 10 FEET OF, UH, WA OF THE YES.
WAPO TO, TO ACCOMMODATE AS WELL.
SO YOU'LL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH BOTH PARTIES.
CAN I BRING IT UP? AS I SAID, IT'S NOT, AND WE DO, WE DO DO NEED TO RETAIN A COPY FOR THE TOWN'S RECORDS, SEEING AS IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE IS THE TWO COPIES.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS WE HAD.
THE TOWN NEEDS TO KEEP ONE OF THESE.
CAN I SUPPLY YOU WITH A DIFFERENT COPY? UH, PLEASE.
IS THAT OKAY? RICHARDSON? I'M SORRY.
I KNOW GENERALLY IF SOMETHING'S PRESENTED TO THE BODY, IT HAS TO BE PUT IN RECORD.
CAN HE PROVIDE A DIFFERENT COPY TOMORROW OR DO WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS ONE? MY PRE MY, OBVIOUSLY MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO KEEP THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED.
UH, BUT WHAT WE COULD DO, CAN WE MAKE A COPY OF IT OR IS THERE YEAH, I, I'M JUST, I I'M, LEMME BACK UP HERE.
IT, IT'LL REFERENCE WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED AT THE MEETING.
IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE PART OF THE SUBMITTAL.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'LL TELL YOU.
I'D PREFER TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATED ONE, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WELL, WE WANT THE UPDATED ONE AS WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'LL GO OFF OF.
UH, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
KEN, CAN YOU PUT UP OUR, ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
YEAH, I, I MOVE TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE PARCEL 11.
A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION, UH, PROVIDED EXHIBIT AT TIME, A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTAL THAT ILLUSTRATES HOW A FUTURE ALIGNMENT OF BLUFFTON PARKWAY, 80 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY COULD BE BUILT ON SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED PARCEL 11.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC BODY, ANYTHING PRESENTED TO US, ANY CITIZEN GET ASKED TO SEE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO HANG ONTO IT.
WHEN YOU READ THAT, WE STATE THAT WE HAD TO TAKE TENANCY FROM EDGAR, THAT'S, IT DIDN'T SAY IT HAD TO ALL BE IN YOUR PROPERTY.
WELL, IT, IT, IT KIND OF DOES.
AND I THINK IT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED PRIOR TO, YOU KNOW, AS WE APPROACH FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IF IT CAN'T BE ACCOMMODATED.
BUT RIGHT NOW, UH, FROM A YOU, FROM A STRICTLY LEGAL STANDPOINT, THE NINTH AMENDMENT, AS MR. REED MENTIONED EARLIER, DOES STATE THAT, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DO, I THINK IT'S THIS PROPERTY THAT UNIVERSITY INVESTMENTS IS PROVI IS OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE THE RIGHT
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OF WAY NECESSARY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIVE B CONNECTOR.NOW, DUE TO NO FAULT OF MR. REED OR UNIVERSITY INVESTMENTS THAT HASN'T TAKEN PLACE WITHIN DECADES, WE'RE WE'RE UNDER CERTAIN CRITERIA.
I DON'T, THERE ARE OTHER PIECES TO THAT.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS INSURMOUNTABLE THE WAY IT IS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE WHY I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS WORDED THAT WAY BY STAFF, WHAT THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE.
BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IT, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S INSURMOUNTABLE.
I THINK IT'S A, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
BUT THE WANTED TO CLARIFY THE WAY THE MOTION READ AND WAS, WAS ADOPTED OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHAT THE PATH ON YOUR, ON THAT PLAN, THE SIDE OF THE, ON, ON THE, ON, ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, THE WHAT'S MEASURED FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROAD TO, TO THE GRADING TO WHERE IT BEGINS TO FALL OFF IS 15.8 FEET.
SO TO HAVE ROOM FOR UP TO SAND, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, EIGHT, EIGHT TO 10 FOOT, EIGHT TO 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS EACH.
AND IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT BY THE, BY THE COUNTY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BIKE PATH ON EITHER SIDE? THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
NO, BECAUSE FURTHER DOWN AT THE, AT THE CIRCLE, RIGHT AROUND THE ROAD THERE.
SO TIM, THERE'S WORK WITH THAT BE THE SAME WIDTH.
YEAH, THERE'S YOUR, HERE'S HERE'S ONE SIDE AND IF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, ANYWAYS, WE, WE NEED TO MOVE ON, BUT YOU GET THE IDEA.
[VII.3. BCSD Willow Run Concept Plan Amendment (Workshop - No Action): A request by the Property Owner, Beaufort County School District, for approval of a Concept Plan Amendment. The Applicant is requesting to amend the terms and obligations for the construction of future North South Connector Road as established by the Buckwalter Tract Development Agreement and Concept Plan 9th Amendment. The properties are currently zoned Buckwalter Planned Unit Development and consist of 142.11 acres identified by tax map numbers R610 022 000 013A 0000, R610 022 000 0035 0000, and R610 022 000 0049 0000 located south of US HWY 278 east of Buckwalter Parkway. This application is associated with DAA-02-25-019617. (CP-03-25-019627) (Staff – Dan Frazier)]
BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT WILLOW RUN CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT.THERE WILL BE NO ACTION, A REQUEST BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR APPROVAL OF A CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE TERMS AND OBLIGATIONS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF FUTURE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD, AS ESTABLISHED BY BUCK BUCKWALTER TRACK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT PLAN NINTH AMENDMENT.
THE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED BUCKWALTER PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND CONSIST OF 142.11 ACRES IDENTIFIED BY THE TAX MAP NUMBERS IN THE AGENDA LOCATED SOUTH OF US.
HIGHWAY 2 78, EAST OF BUCKWALTER PARKWAY.
MR. FRAZIER? NO, YOU'RE NOT MR. FRAZIER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIRMAN.
UM, UH, KEVIN ICARE, DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
I THINK THESE TWO KNOW WHO I AM.
UM, SO, AND THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, SO, UH, THIS EVENING WE'RE HERE FOR A WORKSHOP.
AGAIN, THERE'S NO VOTE ON THIS.
UM, WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN COMING FORWARD, UH, FOR PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, STAFF HAS, UH, DONE PRESENTATION, UH, FOR A WORKSHOP IN DECEMBER WITH TOWN COUNCIL, UM, AS WELL AS JUST RECENTLY IN MAY, UH, TO KIND OF GIVE AN UPDATE.
SO, UM, AS YOU STATED, WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR, IT'S JUST MORE OF, THIS IS MORE OF A WORKSHOP FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR, UH, BUCK WALTER, PUD.
UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA GO INTO, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS AND MOVING PARTS TO THIS ENTIRE PROJECT, AND YOU AS PLANNING COMMISSION ARE A SMALL PART OF THAT.
UM, BUT I GIVING YOU, I'M GIVING YOU A LARGER CONTEXT AS TO WHAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING, UM, BOTH ON THE TOWN COUNCIL LEVEL, UH, AS WELL AS YOUR, YOUR SIDE OF THINGS.
SO, UH, AS YOU STATED, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT IS UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
UM, OF THAT IS OWNED CURRENTLY BY INDIAN HILLS ASSOCIATE.
UM, AND AS YOU SEE ON THIS MAP, UM, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS OF LAND, UH, THAT THEY'RE, UH, HAVE THE INTENT TO PURCHASE.
AND THEN HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON.
UM, AND THAT WAS DONATED, UM, BY INDIAN HILL, UH, THROUGH THE NINTH AMENDMENT, AS WE JUST DISCUSSED.
AND WE COLLECTIVELY REFER TO ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES AS THE WILLOW RUN TRACT.
UH, SO THEY'VE INE IDENTIFIED THIS PROPERTY, UH, FOR POTENTIAL, UH, FUTURE FACILITIES, WHICH MAY INCLUDE A LOWER SCHOOL COMPLEX K THROUGH EIGHT, UH, ASSOCIATED ATHLETIC FIELDS, COURTS, UH, OFFICES, OR ANY STRUCTURES THAT ARE INTENDED TO SUPPORT THE SCHOOL OPERATIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE PROPERTY THAT WE OWN HAS BEEN CONSIDERED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, OR OTHER USES THAT ARE LISTED IN THAT BUCKWALTER COMMONS LAND USE TRACK.
SO THIS IS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE OWNERSHIP OF THE FOUR PARCELS.
AND THEN FROM AN AERIAL STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE HAVE THE THREE PARCELS, UH, AS WELL AS THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY HERE.
AND THEN JUST SOME OF THE, UM, OTHER THINGS AROUND, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, UH, THE RESERVE AT WOODRIDGE, UH, IT'S APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, TO THE SOUTH, THE FOOTHILLS LAND CONSERVANCY PROPERTY, UH, TO THE SOUTH MOONEY TRACK TO THE, UH, TO THE EAST, AND THEN 2 78 TO THE NORTH.
SO WE HAVE, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION THAT ARE GOING TO TOWN COUNCIL, SPECIFICALLY FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
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IT WILL BE THE, UH, BUCKWALTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THEN THE CONCEPT PLAN AMENDMENT.SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT IS A DISCUSSION AND AN INPUT, UM, FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR REMOVAL OF THE PROVISIONS PERTAINING TO THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD.
OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, UM, AS THIS MOVES, UH, FORWARD AND THROUGH THE PROCESS, UH, WILL INCLUDE, UH, WE HAVE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE TERMINATED.
UM, AND WHEN YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THIS PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THIS KINDA LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH HERE.
UH, THAT IS THE EASEMENT THAT IS, UM, CURRENTLY WITH INDIAN HILLS AND THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON TO ALLOW ACCESS TO OUR PROPERTY.
SO, UM, ONCE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ONCE THEY OWN THAT AND WE GO TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, THAT EASEMENT IS NO LONGER NEEDED.
SO WE HAVE TO, IT HAS TO BE TERMINATED.
UH, SO WE HAVE THAT, UH, THE LAND SWAP.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING SOME PROPERTY LINES AROUND.
SO ONCE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OWNS THE PROPERTY, UM, WE WILL, UH, WE'VE ALREADY WORKED OUT A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR AN MOU, UM, TO WHERE WE'RE GONNA SWAP LAND.
SO THE LAND THAT WE OWN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, UM, IS MORE DESIRABLE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WANTS TO BE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE ROAD AND WE WANNA BE CLOSER TO THE ROAD.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA SWAP THEM WITH, TO ALLOW FOR THE MINIMUM OF 10 ACRES OF UPLAND.
UM, SO THE UPLAND PORTION IS OBVIOUSLY THE MOST IMPORTANT.
WETLANDS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, UH, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FOR, UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN, UM, WITH THAT IN THE PURCHASE AND SALES AGREEMENT, UH, IS JUST THE, UM, WE'RE ADDING, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M SORRY, THAT IS WRONG INFORMATION RIGHT THERE.
UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS ACTUALLY THE TOWN IS GONNA BE, UM, PART OF THAT PURCHASE AGREEMENT IS TO, UM, THE TOWN WILL BE PAYING $2.5 MILLION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND IN RETURN, THE TOWN WILL GET ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
UM, SO WHAT I'VE DONE HERE IS KIND OF GIVE YOU JUST A, A TIMELINE BACKGROUND INFORMATION OF HOW, HOW WE CAME ABOUT TO, TO WHERE WE ARE.
SO IN 1996, UM, THIS WAS THE WILLOW RUN TRACK WAS, IT WAS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, AND IT HAD 590, UM, RDUS, 7.4 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.
SO, AND THEN IN 20, UH, EXCUSE ME, 2003, UH, THEY PETITIONED TO ANNEX INTO THE TOWN AND REZONE INTO THE PUD, WHICH WAS STILL THAT WILLOW RUN, PUD.
AND AT THAT POINT IT INCLUDED 500 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, 210, UH, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OF GENERAL OFFICE, 250,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.
THEN AGAIN, IN 2008 IS WHEN IT WAS, UM, IT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE, THE WILLOW RUN WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE BUCKWALTER PUD, AND THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED ON THAT 260, UH, DWELLING UNITS, 162 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, UH, RIGHTS, AS WELL AS TWO, UH, 150 HOTEL UNITS.
SO, UM, OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE IS DEALING WITH THOSE OBLIGATIONS OF THAT NINTH AMENDMENT.
SO AS THE NINTH AMENDMENT WAS COMING THROUGH, WE HAD THE, UH, PROPERTY DONATION, UH, WHICH IS, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE, UH, PARCEL FOUR, THAT'S THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHERE THE 3.7 ACRES WITHIN PARCEL C ARE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE EIGHT ACRES FOR, FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES.
AND THAT NINTH AGREEMENT DOES OUTLINE WHAT'S, UH, FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES.
UM, OTHER ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, FROM AN OBLIGATION STANDPOINT IS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD.
UM, AND THAT THERE'S A 80 FOOT RELOCATABLE EASEMENT ON THE RECORDER PLATS.
AND THAT'S AT 2 78 ALL THE WAY, UH, AT EAGLES POINT RUNNING SOUTH TO THAT FUTURE PARKWAY.
AND I'VE GOT SOME OTHER CON, SOME OTHER EXPLANATIONS OF THESE OBLIGATIONS AND WHY WE'VE HAD SOME OF THE ISSUES HERE.
UM, SO THESE PROPERTIES, UM, INITIALLY WHEN THEY'D ALL CAME THROUGH, UM, THEY HAVE SINCE BEEN CARVED UP, UH, SOLD OFF TO OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, PARCEL FIVE, WHICH IS, UH, CURRENTLY REFERRED TO AS THE, THE MOON MOONEY PROPERTY OR MOONEY TRACK.
UM, I, I CAN SAY THIS, THAT SINCE TOWN COUNCIL DID COME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT THERE IS A LETTER OF INTENT, UH, WITH THE TOWN AND THE MOONEY PROPERTY TO, FOR THE PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY.
UH, PRICE WISE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS.
UH, THAT'S STILL UNDER NEGOTIATIONS, BUT WE ARE, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO OR MOVING FORWARD WITH THE POTENTIAL PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY.
UM, OTHER ONES ARE THE, AS WE REFER TO THE CONSERVANCY PROPERTY PROPERTY OR THE FOOTHILLS, THE TOWN IS IN THE PROCESS OF PETITIONING WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY TO USE WHAT WE REFER TO AS THAT GREEN PENNY SALES TAX, UM, TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY AND THEN PUT THAT IN A CONSERVANCY ASPECT.
AND THEN THE LAST PROPERTY IS THE INLAND, UH, BLUFFTON, LLC PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE ALL, UH, LISTED HERE AS NUMBER SEVEN.
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HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS A, JUST, THAT IS A CONCEPTUAL LINE ON A MAP AS TO THE LOCATION OF, UH, THROUGH THAT PROPERTY ULTIMATELY WOULD TERMINATE IN WHAT WOULD BE THAT FUTURE, UM, BLUFFTON PARKWAY, PHASE FIVE B.SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, AND THE WAY THAT THAT NINTH AGREEMENT WAS SET UP IS THAT RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE, UM, PHASES THAT ARE, THAT TRIGGER, UH, CONSTRUCTION.
SO RIGHT HERE, SO, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OF PARCEL B.
SO IF YOU CONSTRUCT PARCEL B UH, FOR PHASE ONE, UM, IT TRIGGERS THE, IT'S THE TRIGGERS OF THE ISSU ISSUANCE OF THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
SO IF YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING FIVE B, YOU ISSUE THAT PERMIT, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THAT PORTION OF ROADWAY, UM, THROUGH THE MOONY TRACK DOWN TO THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE FOOTHILLS PROPERTY, WE'LL REFER TO IT RIGHT THERE, PHASE TWO.
SO PHASE TWO IS TRIGGERED BY THE ISSUANCE OF ANY DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR ANY PORTIONS OF PARCELS OF A AND OR C.
SO IF YOU GO AND CONSTRUCT A AND OR C, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE ENTIRE ROADWAY.
SO THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT, THAT THAT CONDITION, WHILE IT IS A GREAT CONDITION TO HAVE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, DOES NOT NECESSARILY, UH, IS NOT NECESSARILY APPROPRIATE.
SO, UM, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, WITH THESE OBLIGATIONS IS THE REMOVAL OF THEM WITH, WITH CLAWBACKS.
SO THAT WAY IF IN THE FUTURE THERE WAS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ERROR, THAT IT WOULD STILL, THE INTENT WOULD STILL BE THERE FOR THAT, UM, THAT DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT CHANGES THESE OBLIGATIONS.
UM, SO, AND I'M GONNA GET TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.
SO, UM, AND I, I'VE GOT ANOTHER SLIDE IN HERE THAT'LL SHOW, UM, THE MAIN FACTORS OF THAT PURCHASE.
A COUPLE OF THE OTHER THINGS, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UM, THAT THEY'RE GONNA PURCHASE.
WE THEN RECEIVE THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UM, FOR THE $2.5 MILLION THAT HELPS TO PAY FOR THE PER PROPERTY PROPERTY.
AND THEN WE ALSO DEAL WITH THE LAND SWAP.
SO, UM, AS PART OF THIS, WE WE'RE GONNA SWAP THAT LAND.
SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE, THE, THE SCHOOL WOULD OWN THE PORTION DOWN TOWARDS THE SOUTH AND WE WOULD CHANGE, AND THEN THE TOWN WOULD OWN APPROXIMATELY THE, THE 10 ACRES OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN I'M GONNA GET TO, LEMME JUST GET TO THIS SLIDE HERE.
SO WE, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THE TOWN HAS, UM, UM, WORKED ON, UH, SOME CAPACITY STUDIES.
SO A CAPACITY STUDY IS, THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THIS IS NOT A PLAN AT ALL.
THIS IS NOT A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
SO IT IS JUST TO SEE HOW MUCH, UM, HOW MUCH LAND IS NEEDED FOR DEVELOPMENT, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WITH A FORM-BASED CODE.
UM, HOW, LIKE, WHILE YOU SAY THE MAXIMUM THAT YOU CAN HERE PUT HERE DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY WORK.
SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT A CAPACITY STUDY TOGETHER TO SEE, WELL, WHAT WILL WORK IN THOSE 10 ACRES.
SO ONE OPTION POTENTIALLY IS FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT, UM, THE, MAKE ME DO MY MATH HERE, ABOUT 168, UH, POTENTIAL UNITS AT THAT LOCATION.
UM, THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE, UM, LESS UNITS, WHAT IS THAT? 108 AND THEN A 26,000 SQUARE FOOT PERFORMANCE ARTS PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
SO WE'RE DOING OTHER STUDIES TO CON TO DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF A PERFORMING ARTS STUDY.
UH, SO THAT'S A SEPARATE ITEM THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, BUT THIS JUST GIVES THE ABILITY TO SHOW WHAT CAN POTENTIALLY FIT ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE EASEMENT AGREEMENTS.
UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE A, UM, RELOCATABLE EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THE MOONEY TRACK AS IT RUNS THROUGH HERE.
UM, SO ANYONE, UH, THAT WERE TO, IF YOU WERE TO, UM, DEVELOP IN THE WILLOW RUN TRACK, YOU HAVE THAT ABILITY THERE.
SO THE, THE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS THERE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO THEY WERE IN AGREEMENT, UH, IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT ROAD CONSTRUCT THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, FOR ACCESS FOR WILLOW RUN, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS FUN.
SO, UM,
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL OUT.
UM, SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S FOR THE, THE CONNECTOR ROAD IS THE 80 FEET.
SO THAT'S THE, WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR, UH, WHICH WOULD BE AN 80 FOOT WIDE RIDE OF WAY, THE THREE 12 FOOT TRAVEL LANES, 10 FOOT PATH.
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OF THE NINTH AMENDMENT WHERE IT SAYS THE TOWN AND THE DISTRICT DESIRE TO AMEND THESE TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION OBLIGATIONS AS IT PERTAIN TO THE INDIAN HILLS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PHASE CONSTRUCTION.HOWEVER, SECTION 11 ALSO INCLUDES PROVISIONS, OTHER ASPECTS OF THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD AND ASSOCIATED PROVEN SUCH AS DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS, SIGNALIZATION ACCESS, ROAD INTERCONNECTIVITY.
SO THESE WILL ALL, UM, BE RETAINED.
SO WHAT DOES THIS GET DOWN TO? IT GETS DOWN TO, UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS, UH, IS THAT UPON THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY PORTION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE, UM, THE SCHOOL FACILITIES, THE DISTRICT WILL DESIGN, ENGINEER, DEVELOP AND CONSTRUCT THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD FROM 2 78 TO ITS CONNECTION POINT WITH INDIAN HILL PROPERTY AND COMPLIANCE WITH DOT, UM, STANDARDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT STANDARDS.
UM, AND THEN ONCE THEIR PORTION OF ROADWAY IS COMPLETE, IT'LL BE, UH, DEDICATED TO THE TOWN.
SO THE TOWN WILL THEN TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT ROAD, UM, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION, UH, THROUGH TOWN COUNCIL AND THE ACQUISITION OF PURCHASE SALES AGREEMENT.
UM, AND THEN DEEDED WITH THE REGISTER OF D.
UM, SO BCSD WILL DESIGN AND ENGINEER THE CONNECTOR ROAD TO THE POINT, UM, THE INDIAN HILL PROPERTY, UM, TO THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE MOONY TRACK.
THEY'LL GIVE US ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, UM, AND THEN THE TOWN AT OUR DISCRETION SHALL DESIGN ENGINEER, EXCEPT THOSE PORTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN, UH, ENGINEERED BY BCSD TO DEVELOP AND CONSTRUCT A NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD FROM ITS CONNECTION POINT WITH INDIAN HILL TRACK TO ITS INTERSECTION IN THE FUTURE PARKWAY.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE OBLIGATIONS RIGHT NOW AS WE GO BACK, IT'S THE ROAD FROM ALL THE WAY FROM THE TOP DOWN TO TO FIVE B WITH THE, WITH THAT PHASE TWO.
SO IF PARCEL A PARCEL C CONSTRUCT, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE ENTIRE ROADWAY.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT IS TO SAY THAT WHILE WE STILL WANT THE ROADWAY, THIS PORTION CONSTRUCTED TO A POINT WHERE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ACTUALLY NEEDS ACCESS, UM, FOR, FOR WHATEVER THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY DECIDE TO DO AND THE ENGINEERING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HERE AT THIS POINT, UM, THEY WILL DO THAT.
BUT ALSO RIGHT NOW IS YOU'RE, THEY WOULD THEN BE OBLIGATED TO CONSTRUCT THIS ENTIRE ROAD, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.
UM, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT THE TOWN THEN HAS THAT ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT THE ROAD IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY DECIDE TO DO IT.
SO AGAIN, BY THAT MUTUAL OWNERSHIP, UM, OF THE, THE SITE, UH, FOR, UH, IT'S NOT MUTUAL OWNERSHIP, EXCUSE ME, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S, UM, OWNERSHIP OF THAT SITE, IT RELIEVES THEM OF HAVING TO BUILD THIS ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TWO FIVE B.
WE RECEIVE, WE RETAIN THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND IN THE MOU, AND I DON'T, I'M SURE IF WE HAD, UM, UH, I THINK I PUT A COPY OF THAT, UH, IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, WHERE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AFTER FIVE YEARS, UP TO 25 YEARS, WOULD THEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO PURCHASE BACK, UH, COMMERCIAL RIGHTS.
LET'S SAY THAT THEY, THEY DECIDED IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY SCHOOL, UH, THERE AND SOMEONE CAME TO THEM AND THEY WANTED TO BUY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM THEM.
THEY HAVE A ONE TIME SHOT AT PURCHASING BACK COMMERCIAL RIGHTS ONLY.
THEY CANNOT BUY ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHTS OR THE HOTELS.
UM, AND THERE IS A PRICE FIX, UM, IN THERE, IN THAT DOCUMENT, UM, WITH THE, UM, THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, UH, FOR, FOR, UM, INFLATION, UM, ONE TIME TO PURCHASE THAT.
UH, BUT WITH THAT IS IF THERE ARE ISSUES, OR EXCUSE ME, WE WE HAVE PROVISIONS IN THERE, SO THAT WAY IF THAT DOES GO COMMERCIAL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO THEN BUILD THAT ROADWAY.
I'M CORRECT IN SAYING THAT IF THEY DEVELOPED AN A OR C IF IT WENT COMMERCIAL, YEAH, IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SELLS IT BACK TO SOMEBODY, IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SELLS IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG PORTION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE HAVE THE LAND SWAP, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY STUDY, THE EASEMENTS, ALL THOSE EASEMENTS ALSO THAT RUN THROUGH WILLOW RUN TRACK, UM, AS IT MOVES FORWARD WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, BE REMOVED.
UM, SO WE ALSO HAVE, UM, THE EASTMAN AGREEMENT, THE LAND SWAP, WHILE THOSE ARE NOT, UM, GERMANE TO YOU, UH, THEY ARE IMPORTANT ASPECTS, UH, THAT ARE PART OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
AND I'M GONNA HAVE RICHARDSON COME UP AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE REAL QUICKLY.
ARE YOU LEAVING? I WAS GONNA HE HEAD BACK HERE FOR A SECOND.
OH, I THOUGHT HE WAS COMING UP TO SPEAK.
CAN THE 162 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL BE CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL? IT CANNOT.
SO THE WAY THAT THE, UM, THE BUCK WALTER PUD HAS, UH, HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT THERE, THERE ARE PROVISIONS FOR CONVERSION, BUT
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THERE WAS A MAX SET ON THAT AND THAT MAX HAS ALREADY BEEN REACHED.SO AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT 162 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL RIGHTS WOULD BE OWNED BY THE TOWN, UH, JUST SITTING THERE IN PERPETUITY.
AND THEN WE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY, THE PROVISIONS ARE NOT SET UP RIGHT NOW FOR ANY CONVERSION.
CAN THE HOTELS BE CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL? UM, THAT I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE PROVISIONS THAT, THAT ALLOW FOR THAT.
UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN USE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS TO CREATE A HOTEL, WHICH IS A HALF A UNIT OR HALF A UNIT PER ROOM.
UH, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN CREATE A HOTEL IF YOU HAVE ALREADY USED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROVISIONS THAT ALLOW YOU TO GO FROM A HOTEL BACK TO RESIDE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FEWER AREAS I KNOW OF WHERE WE SPECIFICALLY APPROVED HOTELS.
THIS AND THIS IS THE ONLY ALREADY USED.
THIS IS THE ONLY ONE WHERE, WHERE HOTELS ARE SPECIFICALLY LISTED.
UM, SO IS THE TOWN JUST BUYING THOSE TO EXPIRE? RIGHT? YES.
I, AND I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY SAY TO EXPIRE THEM, BUT TO HOLD ONTO THEM.
YOU'LL GO IN THE BANK, RIGHT? IT GOES IN THE BANK.
WHAT UM, AND THANK YOU, YOU GOT ME THINKING ON THIS.
I APPRECIATE YOU THINKING THAT.
UM, WHAT, UM, IF ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL AND THE HOTELS CAN BE MOVED SOMEWHERE ELSE WITHIN BUCKWALTER, ARE THEY LOCKED INTO WILLOW RUN OR ARE THEY WE WILL OWN THEM.
RIGHT? SO WE WILL OWN THE RIGHTS AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE'S NO PROVISIONS THAT RESTRICT ONCE THE TOWN BACK.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT PER THAT RESTRICT RESTRICTS THEM JUST TO LI RUN WHEREVER.
SO IF THE SCHOOL DECIDES TO TAKE THAT OPTION IN 25 YEARS TO MAKE A ONE TIME PURCHASE BACK, NOW, WHO'S THE DECLARANT FOR THOSE RIGHTS? THE, WELL, WELL THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD THEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUY THEM BACK.
SO NOW WHO'S THE DECLARANT OVER THOSE RIGHTS? WELL, WHOMEVER IS THEN THE OWNER NOW, AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH YOUR NEXT QUESTION IS, CAN THERE BE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THOSE RIGHTS AFTER THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN SOLD, RIGHT? ARE THEY, WILL THEY, COULD THEY BE DEED RESTRICTED SO THAT THEY, ONCE THEY ARE SOLD TO ANOTHER, THEY CAN'T BE, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
RICHARDSON MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT ONE, BUT THAT'S, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
AND WE, WE MIGHT HAVE, WE MIGHT HAVE, UM, SORRY I'M POINTING.
UH, WE MIGHT HAVE, UM, HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT, BUT I JUST CANNOT REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO, UM, WELL, AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING THAT COMES TO MIND, WHAT IF THE TOWN TAKES 50 OF THAT 162 ACRES DEVELOPS IT IN 10 YEARS AND THEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WANTS TO BUY IT BACK? WELL, WE CAN'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD DO THAT.
THAT'S THE INTENT IS THAT IT WOULD JUST SIT THERE AND WE'RE NOT, OF COURSE IT'S, IT'S NOW RESERVED.
IT'S RESERVED FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS.
SO IT'S NOT USABLE FOR 25 YEARS.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT USABLE BY, BY THE TOWN BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE THAT ABILITY TO, TO PURCHASE THAT BACK.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? I YEP.
JUST MAKE SURE IT'S NOT DOUBLE USED.
UM, SO WE HAD FIVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU WHEN YOU STEPPED OUT OF THE ROOM.
UM, SO WE WERE, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE, THE OPTIONS ON THE 162 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL THAT THE TOWN WOULD HOLD THE RIGHTS, BUT THERE IS A, THERE IS A PERIOD, WHAT, FIVE TO 25 YEARS THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS A ONE-TIME OPTION TO PURCHASE THOSE BACK.
SO COULD THOSE, OR WILL THOSE BE DEED RESTRICTED WHEN THAT THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD ONLY WANNA PURCHASE THEM BACK TO SELL THEM TO SOMEONE ELSE? SO, SO WOULD THEY BE DEED RESTRICTED WHERE THEY HAD TO REMAIN WITHIN WILLOW RUN TRACK OR COULD THEY BE TRANSFERRED OUTSIDE OF YES.
ANYWHERE WITHIN THE PED? SO, YOU KNOW, FINAL AGREEMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN SIGNED YET, BUT THE WAY THAT THE CURRENT VERSION OF IT READS IS THAT IT IS A ONE TIME OPTION TO PURCHASE BACK AT A SET PRICE PLUS CPI AND THAT WILL TERMINATE AFTER 25 YEARS.
IT WILL TERMINATE IF ANY PORTION OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED AND IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE ASSIGNED OUT OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY.
SELL THOSE RIGHTS TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEN DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE DISCUSSED, AND AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS STILL IN THE ABSTRACT, BUT UM, WE HAVE ALSO DISCUSSED CORRESPONDING RIGHTS OF FIRST REFUSAL ON THE UNDERLYING DIRT AS WELL, SO THAT IF THE TOWN DECIDES FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER THE TOWN PROPERTY, IT DOESN'T WANT TO DEVELOP AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WANTS TO SELL TO A THIRD PARTY, THE DISTRICT WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO
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BUY THAT AT A REASONABLE PRICE.AND VICE VERSA WITH THE DISTRICT'S PROPERTY, IF THE, IF THEY DECIDE TO SELL THAT AND THEY WANT TO EXERCISE THAT RIGHT OF FIRST REF FEASIBLE TO GET THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, THE TOWN WILL HAVE A CORRESPONDING RIGHT TO PURCHASE THE DISTRICT PROPERTY AT A, AT A PREDETERMINED.
SO EITHER, UH, EITHER A PREDETERMINED FIGURE OR AT WHATEVER THE OFFER IS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL KIND OF KICKING THOSE THINGS AROUND.
THE WHOLE IDEA IS, I THINK AT THE SCHOOL, AT MAYBE ONE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MEETINGS AND AT CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S BEEN RAISED TO COUNCIL AS WELL, THE PUBLIC IS, SEEMS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GONNA, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE DECIDE LATER DOWN THE LINE THAT THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THIS PROPERTY.
THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS PUBLIC PUBLIC PURPOSE BEHIND IT.
THEY DON'T WANT DO A SCHOOL FACILITY, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THEY DON'T WANNA DO THIS, THAT, OR THE OTHER.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT IN THEIR MECHANISMS FOR BOTH PARTIES TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S INVESTMENT IN THIS BECAUSE IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT.
UM, I, I CAN TELL YOU I, THAT THE TOWN IS UNDER CONTRACT ON MOONEY MM-HMM
SO THAT HAS BEEN SIGNED AND ON FOOTHILL.
SO IT'S NOT JUST LETTERS OF INTENT.
SO THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE ALL OF THOSE AT THE SAME TIME ALONG WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS EVERYTHING'S BEING HIT AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, A FEW THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, BECAUSE THINGS MOVE AROUND AS PLANS GET DRAWN OUT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE MOONEY PROPERTY, THE TOWN PARCEL IS GOING TO BE, AT LEAST AS PLANNED, IS GOING TO BE LOCATED VERY CLOSE TO THE, UH, THAT, LET'S SEE, CAPACITY SOMEWHERE RIGHT THERE IS GONNA BE VERY CLOSE OVER HERE, UM, TO THE MOONEY PROPERTY LINE.
SO ORIGINALLY UNDER THE MOU, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS GONNA BE OBLIGATED TO BUILD THAT FIRST PHASE OF THIS NORTH SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD AND THE TOWN WOULD BUILD THE INTERSECTION THAT WOULD LIKELY BE NECESSARY AT ST.
THE GREAT FOR THE SCHOOL, SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THE REASON YOU HAVE TWO OF THEM IS BECAUSE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BELIEVES THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO HAVE TWO EXITS AND TWO ENTRANCES.
SO, UM, BECAUSE THE TOWN WILL BE AT LEAST UNDER THE AGREEMENT, TAKING TITLE TO THE MOONY PROPERTY, DETERMINING WHERE THAT ROAD LAYOUT'S GONNA BE AND IS GONNA BE DEVELOPING THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, JUST MADE SENSE TO FLIP THOSE OBLIGATIONS SO THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ST.
GREGORY THE GREAT ENTRANCE AND ANYTHING IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY.
UM, AND THAT THE TOWN WOULD HAVE THE OBLIGATION FOR THIS PORTION OF THE NORTH-SOUTH CONNECTOR AND THEN THE SECONDARY PORTION.
SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH MR, YOU KNOW, UNIVERSITY INVESTMENTS OR INLAND BLUFFTON IS THE NINTH AMENDMENT TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAD A NORTH-SOUTH CONNECTOR ROAD OBLIGATION IN WHAT WERE THE TRIGGERING MECHANISMS FOR THAT ALL UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT PHASE FIVE B WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED BY THAT TIME? I THINK THAT WAS THE ASSUMPTION THAT WAS MADE.
UM, PHASE FIVE B HAS OBVIOUSLY NOT BEEN CONSTRUCTED, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE OUTSTANDING ITEMS THAT STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
I WOULD JUST BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS IS GONNA GET A STOPLIGHT.
AND SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE OBLIGATIONS IS GONNA BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE OTHER.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, IT MIGHT BE TAKE, TAKE BOTH AND DIVIDE BY TWO
SO I THINK THAT THEY'VE, I THINK THEY'VE DISCUSSED THAT WITH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND OUR AND TOWN STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
UM, AND IT, I THINK THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HEARD IS THAT BOTH, BOTH ARE GONNA HAVE THEM.
SO DESPITE THEIR RELATIVELY CLOSE PROXIMITY.
UM, SO IT, IT'S, YEAH, THERE ARE A LOT OF MO DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS.
BUT AGAIN, IF IT'S ABLE TO BE, IF EVERYBODY'S ABLE TO WORK THIS OUT, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A, A GREAT PROJECT.
IT'S GONNA PRESERVE TONS OF PROPERTY.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL, I'M SURE MR. IKER MENTIONED IT, IS THAT THE ABILITY TO BUY BACK THOSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, THE TOWN WOULD BE FULLY REIMBURSED PLUS, UM, YOU KNOW, CPI INCREASE YET IT WOULD RETAIN THE TWO 100, THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR THE 2 150 UNIT HOTELS AS WELL AS 260 RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS.
SO AS PART OF THIS DEAL, UM, THE TOWN WOULD ACQUIRE THAT, OBTAIN THOSE AND BE ABLE TO RETIRE THOSE IF NEEDED.
OR, YOU KNOW, DE DEDICATE PORTIONS OF THOSE 260 DWELLING UNITS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS WHEREVER THE TOWN THING SEES FIT.
BUT YOU CAN TRANSFER THEM OUT OF THE PUD, THE TOWN CAN TRANSFER THEM OUT OF THE PUD SOMEWHERE
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ELSE.OR, OR UNDER, UNDER THE CURRENT, UNDER OUR CURRENT VERSION.
THEY CAN BE USED IN, IN, IN BUCKWALTER, BUT IF, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE, TOWN INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S IT.
WELL, WELL, MOVING THEM TO THE BANK IS NOT A TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
THAT'S JUST, WE NOW OWN THOSE RIGHTS.
BUT THEN YOU CAN REASSIGN 'EM ANYWHERE.
RIGHT? WE CAN ASSIGN THEM ANYWHERE IN BUCKWALTER PUD IF WE CHOOSE TO, IF WE WANTED TO MOVE THEM TO SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN BUCKWALTER, PUD, THAT IS A TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, WHICH HAS ITS OWN PROCESS WHICH WOULD COME IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, DURING THAT, DURING THAT, UM, DURING THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT TWO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT, IT'S A LOT THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN, UH, IN ORDER FOR THAT TO, TO GO THROUGH.
THE TOWN CAN DO THAT, BUT THE SCHOOL COULDN'T DO THAT IF THEY ENDED UP THAT, THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT THAT WE STRUCK ON THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL, THAT WE WOULD BE FINE GRANTING THAT PROVIDED THAT THOSE RIGHTS WERE LIMITED TO THAT PROPERTY.
'CAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT THE, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO BUY 'EM BACK, SELL THEM TO ANOTHER PARCEL, AND THEN CONTINUE TO BUILD THE DISTRICT PROPERTY.
IF, BY MY MEMORY, WE'VE DONE IT, I THINK OUT OF BLUFFTON PARK INTO BUCKWALTER 'CAUSE IT MADE SENSE TO PULL SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT OUT OF THAT.
AND THEN WE STRIPPED AWAY A QUARTER OR A THIRD OF THOSE AND THEY WENT INTO NOWHERE.
SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD PROCESS FOR CLAWING BACK SOME OF THEM.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT'S HAPPENED IN NEW RIVERSIDE, PALMETTO BLUFF AREA AS WELL.
WELL WE, WE GOT ADDITIONAL IONS SET UP.
WELL THE, THE DEVELOPMENT UNITS WERE ORIGINALLY SPLIT OFF TO, TO, TO NEW RIVERSIDE, BUT THEN IN EXCHANGE FOR DENSITY, UM, WE, FOR NO DOCKS ON THE RIVER, WE GOT ADDITIONAL DENSITY.
SO WE PULLED A THOUSAND BACK FROM THE RIVERSIDE AND THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT 4,000 NOW 4,400.
AND SO WHAT IS, JUST TO, WHAT'S YOUR TURN FULL CIRCLE? WHAT IS OUR TINY MINUSCULE UNIMPORTANT PART IN THIS
VERY IMPORTANT PART IS THAT WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A PUBLIC HEARING RECOMMENDATION.
UM, LIKE, LIKE RICHARDSON SAID, THAT 14TH AMENDMENT, UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT ALL OF THE MINUTE DETAILS.
IS THAT A GOOD WAY OF SAYING IT? THE OVERALL INTENT OF WHAT WE JUST EXPLAINED TO YOU IS, IS THE, IS WHAT'S GOING THROUGH.
UM, SO WE WILL HAVE, UH, WE'LL HAVE A FINAL DRAFT VERSION, UM, PRIOR TO THE, THAT'LL BE IN THE PACKET, UH, FOR THEM TO REVIEW.
UM, SO THAT WILL BE FOR YOU TO MAKE, UM, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON DO WE ANTICIPATE NEXT MONTH OR WE'RE NOT SURE AT THIS POINT.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'LL HAVE THIS NEXT MONTH, UM, AND HOW BET DATES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
AND THEN IT DID NOT GIVE YOU ANY DATES ON THERE.
UM, AND WE KNOW IT'S A CONDENSED TIMEFRAME.
UM, THIS, AGAIN, ESTABLISHING THE BASIC FRAMEWORK HAS BEEN DIFFICULT GETTING THE DOCUMENTATION TOGETHER, SOME PRETTY DIFFICULT, UH, I, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING WHERE THE PROPERTIES ARE GONNA SWAP.
BUT NOW THAT WE ARE IN THIS SPACE AND MOVING FORWARD, ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE THIS CONDENSED TIMEFRAME IS THAT ALL THESE PUBLIC BODIES ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH PRIVATE OWNERS WHO, YOU KNOW, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS MOVES FORWARD.
'CAUSE THEY'VE HAD THEIR PROPERTY, BECAUSE THE DISTRICT PROPERTY, I THINK HAS BEEN UNDER CONTRACT FOR OVER A YEAR.
AND SO I, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT TRYING TO HIT THESE, THESE TIMEFRAMES THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THAT CONTRACT.
SO AGAIN, WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION SO YOU COULD GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT IT, KIND OF GET AN IN DEPTH REVIEW OF IT, BRING UP ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU SEE SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE PROACTIVELY RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN TRYING TO SCURRY TO GET THINGS TAKEN, TAKEN CARE OF AT THE LAST MINUTE.
I, I'LL SAY THIS, IT'S, IT'S VERY COMFORTING TO SEE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE TOWN WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.
I THINK SO FAR THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT, GREAT PARTNER ON THIS.
UH, ROBERT OTTING OVER THERE HAS BEEN DOING A GOOD JOB KIND OF SPEARHEADING THIS FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL WITH, UM,
AND, UH, I I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE MR. CHAIR, AND I BELIEVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS BROUGHT UP IS, ARE OBVIOUSLY CONCERNS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO FLUSH OUT AND, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BEING ADDRESSED.
I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AT US WITH MORE THAN JUST WHAT OUR LITTLE PART IS IN IT.
HELP US UNDERSTAND THE BIGGER PICTURE.
YES, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A JUST A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN THIS AND, YOU KNOW, TO, TO PUT YOU IN A, IN A SILO IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
SO THAT WAY YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE, THE WHOLE PICTURE.
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SO THANKS.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU, SIR.
UM, ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? OKAY, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE FINAL ITEM? ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION ADJOURNMENT? BY THE WAY I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.
YOU ARE WATCHING BEAUFORT COUNTY TV.
I REMEMBER CAMPBELL AND THIS IS BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENTS.
I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FOOD TODAY.
THE FOOD HAS BEEN A GREAT PART OF OUR LIFE IN TERMS OF GATHERING FOOD AND PREPARING THEM.
OUR FOOD IS BASED ON THE LAND AND THE SEA.
THE LAND FOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN RICE.
WE DON'T FEEL WE HAVE EATEN DINNER UNLESS WE'VE HAD RICE.
RICE WAS MIXED WITH VARIOUS ITEMS FROM THE SEA, LIKE OYSTERS OR SHRIMP.
AND WHEN THEY COOKED WITH RICE IN ONE POT, WE CALL IT A RICE OR, OR SHRIMP OR AN OYSTER PERLOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE WATERMELONS AND THE SWEET POTATOES.
SWEET POTATOES WAS ALWAYS EATEN WITH FISH AND FRESH FISH WITH GRAVY AND A SWEET POTATO.
OKRA HAS ALWAYS BEEN A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR FOOD WAYS WE, WE, WE RAISE THEM AS WELL AS WE PREPARE THEM WITH SHRIMP AND TOMATOES.
AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD CALL THAT A GUMBO, AND THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
AND SO ENJOY THE FOOD OF THE LOW COUNTRY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY MUCH A PART OF OUR HISTORY.
THIS HAS BEEN YOUR BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENT.
TO SEE MORE BEAUFORT COUNTY MOMENTS GO TO THE BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARY HOMEPAGE AND CLICK ON THE LOCAL HISTORY TAB.
GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
UM, GUEST AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, OUR TENNIS PLAYERS.
WELCOME TO THE NEWLY RENOVATED BUFORD TENNIS COURT.
UM, THIS ROUGHLY $700,000 INVESTMENT WILL SERVE TENNIS LOVERS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY.
THE RENOVATION STARTED LAST APRIL WITH DE, UH, DEMOLISHING OF THE EXISTING COATS AND INSTALLING ALL NEW COATS, NETS, FENCES, AND GATES, ALONG WITH A DA COMPLIANCE SIDEWALKS.
THE EXISTING COURT LIGHTING WAS UPGRADED AND RAIN GARDENS AND RUNOFF CONTROLS WERE ADDED TO ADDRESS THE STORM WATER ISSUES.
THE REPAIRS WERE COMPLETED THROUGH A VERY STORMY, WET SUMMER.
THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF BEAUFORT COUNTY INVESTING IN THE CITY OF BEAUFORT.
SPENDING AROUND $2 MILLION IN PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES.
THE CHARLES LYNN BROWN CENTER CONTINUES TO BE UPGRADED AND THE COUNTY WILL ADD MORE PICKLEBALL AND BASKETBALL COURT TO THE SOUTH SIDE PARK WITH MUCH MORE TO COME.
ALTHOUGH TENNIS IS THOUGHT TO BE A, PREDOMINANTLY A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE SPORT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN 2022, MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE PLAYING TENNIS.
AND THERE IS ACTUALLY A LONG, RICH HISTORY BEYOND ARTHUR ASH AND THE WILLIAMS SISTERS TUSKEGEE INSTITUTE, FOUNDED BY BOOKER T WASHINGTON ADDED
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TENNIS COURTS AND THE TENNIS TEAM IN THE 1890S.NOT MANY PEOPLE HAVE HEARD THE STORY OF ALETHA GIBSON.
SHE WAS BORN IN A TOWN OF SILVER IN CLARATON COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND MOVED TO THE, IN 1930S TO HARLEM.
GIBSON WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN TO COMPLETE, TO COMPETE INTERNATIONALLY IN TENNIS, WINNING FIVE GRAND SLAM SINGLE TO, UH, TITLES BETWEEN 1956 AND 1958.
IF THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH TO THE, UH, IN THE 1960S, SHE ALSO BECAME THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PLAYER TO COMPETE ON THE WOMEN'S PROFESSIONAL GOLF TOUR.
SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, AMERICAN, BOTH BLACK AND WHITE HAVE BEEN, HAVE ENJOYING TENNIS FOR A LONG TIME.
AND ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I LEARNED TENNIS OR HOW THEY HIT THE BALL, UH, ON THAT QUOTE RIGHT THERE BACK IN THE 19 EARLY 1960, I NEVER KNEW THE GAME OF TENNIS UNTIL I GOT TO COLLEGE AND I FIRST LEARNED WHAT, UH, 15 LOVE WAS
UM, SO WE JUST PLAYED TENNIS, UH, ON THIS COURT RIGHT HERE.
I HOPE THAT THIS STORY AND THESE COURTS INSPIRE ALL THE YOUTH IN BEAUFORT COUNTY TO EXCEL IN THEIR INTERESTS AND TALENT.
AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE A TENNIS STAR WILL START THE JOURNEY RIGHT HERE.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT, UH, THE BEAUFORT AREA WILL ENJOY THIS BEAUTIFUL FACILITY.
I GREW UP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, SO THIS IS THE HOOD, THIS IS HOME.
MY GRAND BABIES, UH, ALL FOUR OF 'EM PLAYED, UH, NATIONAL TENNIS BECAUSE OF, UM, LARRY DWAYNE, WE JUST LOVE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
JUST A LITTLE SIDE NOTE BEFORE I PRAY.
UH, LARRY'S UH, I GREW UP ON THIS CORNER AND HE GREW UP RIGHT ON THE CORNER.
HIS OLDEST SISTER WAS MY BEST FRIEND, AND WE COULD TALK FROM THE STEPS.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE, LITTLE, HE WAS, HE WASN'T EVEN WALKING, HE WAS CRAWLING AND HE HAD A TENNIS BALL IN HIS HANDS.
AND I TOLD MY JULIE, HIS MOTHER AT THE TIME, I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HE'S GONNA BE IN LIFE IS GONNA BE WITH THE BALL.
AND NOT ONLY DOES HE PLAY TENNIS WELL, HE PLAYED EXCELLENT BASKETBALL, BASEBALL AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT HE HAS EXCELLED IN TENNIS AND HAS GIVEN THAT GIFT BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY.
HE'S SUCH A JEWEL AND A TREASURE, AND I THANK GOD FOR HIM, FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU, HALLELUJAH.
SWEET HOLY SPIRIT FOR YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS PLACE.
FATHER GOD, WE ANOINT THESE GROUNDS AS HOLY AND HOLLOW GROUND FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR YOUR SPIRIT TO DWELL GOD.
WE SAID NONE OF US, BUT ALL OF YOU, AND WE SAID, NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST WHAT YOU HAVE STARTED HERE SHALL BE ABLE TO PROSPER.
FATHER GOD, AS WE WALK THESE COURTS AND OUR YOUNG PEOPLE COME, FATHER GOD, THEY WILL FIND A PLACE OF SAFETY, A PLACE WHERE LOVE ABIDES IN THIS PLACE AND WHERE SOMEBODY CAN SPEAK A POSITIVE WORD INTO THEIR LIVES.
AND GOD, THOSE THAT HAVE HAD A HAND IN THIS MOMENT, GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM WITH A DOUBLE PORTION OF A PROPHET'S REWARD.
AND GOD, ORDER OUR STEPS IN YOUR WORD.
HELP US TO TRUE, TRULY BE KEEPERS AND STEWARD OF THE GIFT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US AND NOT TO TAKE THIS DAY FOR GRANTED.
LORD, THIS IS THE DAY THAT YOU HAVE MADE AND WE'VE MADE A CHOICE TO COME TOGETHER TODAY AND TO BE REJOICE AND BE GLADED.
NOW ONE OF THE GULLAH TRADITIONS IS ONCE YOU GET THE WORD, YOU HAVE TO JOIN IN.
OH, Y'ALL GONNA DO THE PLEDGE.
THEY GONNA DO THE PLEDGE FIRST.
OH, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HOLY SPIRIT, KUMBAYA, HOLY SPIRIT, KUMBAYA, HOLY SPIRIT, KUMBAYA SAID, WE SO LONG FIRE
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PUT TOGETHER HOLY SPIRIT, KUMBAYA, HOLY SPIRIT, MB HOLY SPIRIT SAID WE SAW ON FIRE HOLY SPIRIT.HOLY SPIRIT MB SAY HOLY SPIRIT, AYA HOLY SPIRIT SAID, WE SO CAN PRAY.
HOLY SPIRIT, HOLY SPIRIT, KU THAT SAID, WE SO LONG CAN LOVE.
RIGHT? HOLY SPIRIT, KUMBAYA, HOLY SPIRIT, KUMBAYA, HOLY SPIRIT.
AYA SAID, WE SO LONG FIRE SAID, WE SO LO FIRE SAID, WE SO LO FIRE THE MANDATE IS THAT WE LOVE BETTER AND IF WE LOVE BETTER, WE'LL DO BETTER.
THANK HANG TIGHT, HANG TIGHT, HANG TIGHT.
MY NAME IS MARSHALL WILLIAMS AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE OF THE NEW BEAUFORT TENNIS CLUB.
THE CLUB HAS BEEN ORGANIZING OVER THE SUMMER TO BE READY TO BRING THESE BEAUTIFUL TENNIS COURTS TO LIFE WITH CHILDREN AND ADULTS FROM THIS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT OF BUFORT, AND FROM THE WIDER AREA NORTH OF THE BROAD, AND EVEN FROM SOUTH OF THE BROAD.
IF YOU CAN BRAVE THE TRAFFIC
I THINK ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BEAUFORT TENNIS CLUB STEERING COMMITTEE ARE HERE THIS MORNING.
AND I'LL JUST ASK THEM TO STEP FORWARD OR WAVE SO WE CAN SEE EVERYONE.
JANICE JOHNSON, MARY ENRIGHT, CHRIS PETERSON, ROB HILTON, JAN HARAN, VICKI HANOWSKI, SALLY HENDRICKS, SUE RAINEY.
IT'S BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH YOU ALL.
IF YOU WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CLUB, PLEASE SPEAK TO ANY OF US AND WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU VOLUNTEER ALONG WITH US.
WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION AND AN EMAIL SIGNUP SHEET FOR YOU AFTER THE CEREMONIES.
I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE ON OUR LIST ALREADY.
IT'S ALSO A REAL PLEASURE FOR ME TO BE HERE TO INTRODUCE AND RECOGNIZE LARRY SHEPHERD.
LARRY, COME ON, COME ON OVER A LITTLE BIT.
HE REALLY DOESN'T NEED AN INTRODUCTION.
LARRY HAS BEEN LEADING FREE PUBLIC CLINICS FOR CHILDREN AT THESE COURTS, AND HE'S TAUGHT LEGIONS OF YOUNG AND OLDER TENNIS PLAYERS THROUGH THE YEARS.
HE'S HERE WITH HIS ASSISTANT DONNA WINLAND.
GREW UP COMING HERE TO PLAY TENNIS.
HE WAS BORN AND RAISED RIGHT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND CHARLES LYD BROWN WAS A MENTOR TO LARRY AS HE WAS TO SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE GROWING UP HERE.
LARRY AND HIS CREW WORK HARD TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION.
HIS FREE CLASS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AGE TWO TO 18 WILL START ON SATURDAY AT NOON.
AND HIS CLINICS AND LESSONS BEGIN TOMORROW.
LARRY, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH ALL OF US SOON, AS SOON AS WE'RE DONE HERE.
BUT PLEASE JUST TO HAVE A WORD FOR US.
OH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TUPACS AND RECREATION FOR GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO GIVE OUR SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
UH, THANK YOU TO MY COUSIN, UH, PURLEY SUE, SAYING THOSE KIND OF THINGS ABOUT ME.
UH, THANK YOU TO, UH, MY ASSISTANT, MS. WINLAND, AND TO ALSO MS. JANICE JOHNSON, JAN AND ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE HELPED ME THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU GUYS.
AND ALSO I KNOW MR. LYNN BROWN'S LOOKING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, FOR YOU ALL, FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY.
THIS LAND WAS GIVEN MANY YEARS AGO TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE RECREATION OF ITS YOUNG PEOPLE.
OUR GOAL AND PURPOSE IS TO SEE THESE COURTS FILL UP WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AND ADULTS PLAYING TENNIS AT ALL LEVELS.
AND OUR CLUB WILL BE MADE UP OF VOLUNTEERS HELPING TO ORGANIZE ROUND ROBINS SPECIAL EVENTS, MEN'S AND WOMEN'S MIXED DOUBLES, TENNIS UNDER THE STARS, U-S-T-A-C-C-T-A AND OTHER TOURNAMENTS.
WE CAN USE EVERYONE'S HELP AND IDEAS.
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CAROLINA TENNIS ASSOCIATION HAVE BOTH SENT THEIR BEST WISHES AS WE OPEN UP.AND I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE PATTY LATA, WHO IS THE CCTA LEAGUE COORDINATOR WHO IS JOINING US TODAY.
I HAD LIKE TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OF THANKS TO SHANNON LOPER FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY PARKS AND REC FOR GETTING US HERE TODAY TO THEIR MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR, JACK FRIPP, WHO MADE THE PARK BEAUTIFUL AND USER FRIENDLY.
AND THEIR STAFF, JEREMY AND HEATHER ARE ALSO HERE.
THANKS, MR. GLOVER, AUNT PURLEY, SUE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BLESS YOU FOR LAUNCHING THE NEW TENNIS COURTS AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
WELL, IN CLOSING, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF BEEN THANKED, BUT I'D STILL LIKE TO THANK A FEW MORE.
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT HERE TODAY.
WE'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO OPEN UP THE COURTS.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND I THINK EVERYBODY CAN AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED WITH AT PARKS AND REC TO HAVE, UM, LARRY SHEPHERD AS, UM, PART OF OUR STAFF NOW, UM, TO BE WORKING WITH US, BUT ALSO TO BE WORKING AND DOING CLINICS OUT HERE.
UM, WE FEEL LIKE THAT IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP BY HAVING HIM ON BOARD TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY MONITOR THE COURTS, BUT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER MORE PROGRAMS FOR THE KIDS, FREE PROGRAMS FOR THE KIDS, AND TO BE ABLE TO OFFER LESSONS WITH THE KIDS.
UM, WE STILL HAVE A FEW THINGS TO FINISH UP, SO IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT WE'VE COME A LONG WAY WITH IT.
UM, AS WE, UM, PROGRESS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, YOU'LL SEE SOME ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, UM, THAT'LL BE DONE.
UM, SOME WATER FOUNTAIN CHANGE OUTS, UM, MESSAGE BOARDS ADDED, AND, UM, JUST ODDS AND ENDS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
WE'LL HAVE, UM, MORE SIGNS, WE'LL HAVE THE COURTS NUMBERED, UM, BUT WE WANTED TO GET EVERYBODY OUT HERE AND, AND START PLAYING TENNIS WITHOUT ANY MORE HOLDUP.
UM, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UM, FOR OVERSEEING THE PROJECT.
UM, I REALLY THANK ERIC LARSON FOR COMING OUT HERE ON THURSDAY WHEN I WAS IN A HUGE PANIC OF HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THIS RIGHT AND HOW HIM CALL EVERYBODY THAT HE CALLED OUT TO, UM, GET THE, UM, EVERYTHING COMPLETE AND LOOKING GOOD.
THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR BRINGING ALL THEIR CREWS OUT.
MY MAINTENANCE CREW WHO'S BEEN OUT HERE SINCE THURSDAY, UM, CHUCK, UM, ATKINSON, WHO SUPPORTS ME IN MY ROLE AS THE PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR, AND ALSO WHAT I CALL OUR DYNAMIC DUO, ERIC AND WHITNEY, FOR BRINGING, UM, THE OLD PARKS AND REC BACK TO LIFE AND REALLY SUPPORTING US, UM, IN THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
SO, UM, IF EVERYBODY IS READY, WE'RE GONNA CUT THE RIBBON AND, UM, EVERYBODY CAN SERVE UP, START SOME MATCHES AND HIT THE BALLS.
I'M A VOLUNTEER MEMBER OF THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION BOARD.
BEFORE MOVING TO SOUTH CAROLINA, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW RAPID GROWTH NOT BEING ALWAYS OPTIMIZED WITH THE CONSERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES.
WHEN I MOVED HERE, I DECIDED I WANTED TO BE PART OF THE FUTURE PLANNING TO ENSURE THAT BALANCE, THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PRESERVATION BOARD HAS GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A VOICE ON THIS ISSUE FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY.
NOWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES THAT I'VE EVER BEEN HAVE I SEEN SUCH A DEDICATED EFFORT TO CONSERVE RESOURCES.
ALL OF US NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE GOVERNING PROCESS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO MY FAMILY.
I HOPE YOU ALL WILL CONSIDER TAKING A OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO VOLUNTEER YOUR TALENTS AND YOUR TIME.
TO SEE A LISTING OF BEAUFORT COUNTY'S AGENCIES, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, OR TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, VISIT WWW.BEAUFORTCOUNTYSC.GOV/BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.