[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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STARTED WITH THE FIRST OKAY. I REMEMBER THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS A CALL TO ORDER OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, MAY SEVEN, 2025. CAN I GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? CHAIRMAN AND GOODWIN VICE CHAIRMAN JOE DEPAUL YOU'RE MR. CURLY FRAZIER HERE AND THIS YEAR COMMISSIONER TIM AND
[III. NOTICE REGARDING ADJOURNMENT]
COMMISSIONER DEBBIE WONDER THANK MS. REGARDING ADJOURNMENT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION WILL NOT HEAR NEW ITEMS AFTER 9:30 P.M. UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT ITEMS WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN HEARD BEFORE 9:30 P.M. MAY BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING AN OFFICIAL MEETING DATE AS DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION MEMBERS THE MONTHLY ADOPTION OF MINUTES DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES OR A[IV. ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
MOTION TO ADOPT A SECOND SO GO ALL IN FAVOR TO ADOPT MEETING MINUTES FOR THE FEBRUARY OR THE FIFTH MEETING AND I SO THE MEETING MINUTES HAVE BEEN ADOPTED MOVING ON TO THE[V. ELECTION OF OFFICERS]
ELECTION OF OFFICERS WE CAN ELECTED TO OFFICERS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMITTEE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR ARE BOTH ALREADY ON IT. SO WE WANTED TO REMOVE SOME CONFUSION WITH THAT THINKING THAT EVAN AND I AND TIM AND JIM ARE ALL IT SO WE WANTED TO REVISIT THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD IT SORTED AND WE'RE ELECTING TO DO SO. I TIM AND JIM, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ON IT AS WELL. JIM DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE IT OR I'M GOOD I'M BEING BUT I'VE BEEN A THERE FOR A YEAR AND A HALF SO I REALLY HAVE I'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL I THINK I MEAN I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE ARCHITECTS. OKAY.WELL, I THINK I'M I MEAN I'M HAPPY TO SERVE ON THE VRC JIM, HOW ABOUT YOU? YEAH, GOOD. STAY ON IT. YEAH, WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION OR WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH NOMINATING FOR NOMINEE OKAY WELL I'LL NOMINATE TIM TO THE HISTORIC TIM PROBST THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMITTEE NO SECOND IS REQUIRED SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE OR TIM PROBST TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMITTEE ALL IN FAVOR I I I WOULD SAY I SAID TIM HAS BEEN NOMINATED TO HER TIM HAS APPOINTED TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMITTEE TO HAVE A SECOND NOMINATION.
IS THAT GOING TO JO TO PAUL NOBODY SHOULD HAVE A ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ME FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMITTEE I'M ALL RIGHT SO I GET PAUSE IN A POINTED TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW COMMITTEE I'M MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS ONE AHEAD OF TITLE REQUESTS BY ROBERT GRAVES SO APPARENTLY THE APPLICANT IS ABOUT 5 MINUTES AWAY OKAY AND WE DO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ITEMS WE CAN SKIP FOUR AND TWO THAT YOU'RE RELAXED ABOUT BUT THAT WE CAN TAKE THINGS OUT OF ORDER. I WE NEED TO VOTE TO TAKE IT TO THE CHAIR YEAH.
I MEAN WE CAN EITHER IN DISCUSSION UNTIL THE APPLICANTS HERE OKAY WE DO WE NEED A MOTION TO THE OR CAN WE JUST TABLE THAT IN THE SAFE I GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION OKAY WELL I'LL MOTION TO SET ASIDE THE NEW BUSINESS FOR NOW AND MOVE FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION ITEMS AND RETURN TO NEW BUSINESS AFTER THAT. I DO HAVE A SECOND I GUESS ALL
[IX.1. Historic District Monthly Update. (Staff)]
IN FAVOR I GUESS. ALL RIGHT. SO THE PASSES LET'S MOVE FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION THE HISTORIC MONTHLY UPDATE. THIS IS THE VARIOUS PERMITS THAT WERE APPROVED BY STAFF SITE FEATURE PERMITS FROM FEBRUARY 18 THROUGH APRIL 16 THE MAJORITY OF THEM INCLUDE SIGNAGE. WE DO HAVE A PARKING LOT PAVING 207 BLUFFTON ROAD AND FENCE AT 16 ROBERTSON STREET SO NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY HERE BUT[00:05:08]
JUST ONE OF THE COMMISSION TO BE AWARE OF WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON THAT YOU DON'T REVIEW AND[IX.2. 10th Annual Town of Bluffton Historic Preservation Symposium: Will be held Thursday, May 15 at 5:30 p.m. in Town Hall Council Chambers.]
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE I DO WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT WE HAVE THE THE 10TH ANNUAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION SYMPOSIUM COMING UP NEXT WEEK AND I GAVE YOU A LITTLE FLIER THERE AND THIS IS A FANTASTIC WAY TO LEARN ABOUT THE VARIOUS GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OLD TOWN AND THERE'S A VERY I THINK A SOMEWHAT SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THEIR HOUSE IT COULD BE ADDING A NEW ROOF OR, REROOFING A HOUSE.WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL WITH THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD MOST RECENTLY.
WE GAVE ONE TO HISTORIC BLUFFTON FOUNDATION AND THEY'VE HAD SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HELPED PAY FOR. SO I HOPE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ATTEND IT WILL BE ON THE PUBLIC CHANNEL AS WELL. PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ATTEND. DO YOU HAVE THIS IN A DIGITAL FORM WHERE IT COULD BE EMAILED OUT? WE COULD DO THAT YEAH WE'D BE GLAD TO DO THAT THINKING ALL THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE STAFF REPORT? NO QUESTION. RIGHT SO MOVING BACK TO AND I DO AND I'M SORRY DON'T HAVE THIS OUT BUT I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE SAM BARROW HE IS OUR NEWEST PLANNER HERE AND HE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ITEMS FOR WORKING CLOSELY TOGETHER TO GET HIM UP TO SPEED BUT SAM CAME FROM GERMANY AND IS NOW LIVING HERE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND BEAUFORT AND SO HE'S BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW ALREADY.
OKAY. SO IF YOU SEE HIS NAME THIS IS SAM.
I THINK A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE MET HIM AND THEN WHAT ELSE THAT I WANT TO POINT IN LIKE THERE IS ONE OTHER THING OH I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE JUNE MEETINGS SINCE WE'RE IN DISCUSSION TIME AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE APPLICANT, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY FULL AGENDA FOR JUNE. WE'VE GOT SIX ITEMS AND SCHEDULED OR WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY'VE GOT THEIR FULL SUBMISSION IN ORDER BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE WE'LL HAVE SIX ITEMS WE WILL BE DOWN TO COMMISSIONERS.
WE STILL WILL HAVE A VACANCY AT THAT TIME. SO IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE, PLEASE LET US KNOW IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE COULD RESCHEDULE THAT MEETING AS FAR IN ADVANCE POSSIBLE. SO I GUESS QUESTION OUR PARTNERS WILL BE ON THEIR ON THEIR ENTHUSIASM FOR THAT TOO. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH WITH THAT YOU WON'T FOR YEAH WE WON'T OKAY THIS IS OUR POSITION FROM THE VERY LONG TIME AND I DO NOT I MEAN WE DID IN THE PAST BUT NOW WE JUST RUN RUNNING INTO THAT.
YEAH IF KIDS HIMSELF HAS SOMEBODY ELSE WILL BE HERE TO PRESENT BUT TIM WILL NOT BE HERE AS A VOTE SO THAT TAKES US DOWN FROM A QUORUM TO TOWN COUNCIL'S NOT VOTING INCLUSION AND CORRECT YEAH SO AT THAT POINT DOES THAT JUST BECOME REVIEW BECAUSE WE CAN'T WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET TO VOTE ON THAT ON WHATEVER PROJECT IS IT COULD BE REVIEWED BUT BUT IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO VOTE ON IT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD WANT TO COME IN TWICE FOR THAT ITEM UNLESS THE RULES WILL BE BACK FROM THE AGENDA THEN WELL WE WON'T.
WE'LL NEED TO TALK ABOUT THOSE. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE WON'T EVEN PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA IF WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE QUORUM. RIGHT.
WE'LL TALK TO THE APPLICANT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO. SO ONE OPTION WOULD BE RESCHEDULE THE MEETING OR EITHER WITHIN THE SAME WEEK OR THE FOLLOWING.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS FOR ME SOME TRAVEL PLANS OR SOMETHING OR A SPECIAL MEETING.
YEAH YEAH THAT'S A POSSIBILITY AS WELL. OKAY.
UM YEAH BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT SITUATION WITH ANOTHER APPLICATION THAT WE HAD ON THE AGENDA FOR FOR TABBY SHEL AND SO WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK EITHER OR WEDNESDAY. AND SO I DID SEND AN EMAIL YESTERDAY BUT I'VE ONLY HAD ONE RESPONSE SO FAR. SO IF YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ATTEND A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT MONDAY OR WEDNESDAY IF YOU CAN PLEASE LET US KNOW AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE AND THE TIME THAT WOULD BE BEST IF IT'S EARLIER
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LIKE A 5 P.M. INSTEAD OF 6 P.M. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. YOU SAID YOU SENT THAT EMAIL ON YESTERDAY RIGHT AS A CALL. OKAY. I IT I'M LOOKING I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU. OKAY IF YOU LET US KNOW IDEALLY WE WOULD LIKE KNOW BY INTO BUSINESS TOMORROW AND THAT WAY PREFERABLY BEFORE WE CAN GET TO THE AGENDA.RIGHT I AM LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR AND I AM NOT AVAILABLE EITHER GET THIS REALLY GOING ON MONDAY OR WEDNESDAY NEXT WEEK IN FIVE OR 6:00 ADN WE'LL BE BACK TOWN ON MONDAY SO IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE BUT I WON'T WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM UNTIL NEXT WEEK GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING IF I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF TONIGHT WE WOULDN'T HAVE A QUORUM FOR IT. SO IT'S THIRD ONE I'VE GOT OH THAT'S NOT ON THIS LIST.
YEAH YEAH WE HAD TO REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA I FELT WE WERE TRYING TO IT'S KIND OF YOU KNOW READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PERMIT IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD GET A PROVED FACTUAL WE'RE KIND THE NEXT MONDAY AND HE WAS FINE FOR ME MONDAY AND WEDNESDAY RIGHT YOU'RE NOT WEDNESDAYS THE THE SAME NO THAT'S THURSDAY OTHERS IT IS WHAT YOU WRITE DOWN WEDNESDAYS I HAVE ROTARY CLUB BUT NOT BUT I GUESS THAT IT SHOULD BE A VERY QUICK MEETING AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO EARLIER EARLIER THAN 6 P.M. BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO HAVE EVAN HERE. I'M CURLY. SO WHAT ABOUT MONDAY THE 19TH ONE WEEK, ONE MONDAY OR I AM AVAILABLE TO DO A 5 P.M.. MM AND JIM DID YOU JUST SAY YOU WERE AVAILABLE ON THE 19TH. YEAH YEAH YEAH HIM YEAH I'M GOOD.
OKAY THEN WE WILL GET EVAN OR DEBBIE ON BOARD AS WELL AND GO FROM THERE.
OKAY GREAT. AS LONG AS JOE IS OKAY WITH THAT I GUESS IS YOUR ITEM.
YEAH YEAH WE WILL LET IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO REPRESENT THE PROJECT SO THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING WITH US ON TAKE AWAY. ALL RIGHT AFTER A DISCUSSION MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS ONE
[VIII.2. 1 Head of Tide: A request by Robert L. Graves, III (Graves Construction), Applicant, on behalf of Jason Alexander, Property Owner, for review of a Certificate of Appropriateness - HD to allow a second-floor addition to an existing single-family detached residence to be located mostly within the existing hip roof and partially within a gable end roof addition. Proposed changes also include the partial enclosure of a rear porch, replacing a second-floor vent with an egress window, and adding a side yard stoop. The property is located at 1 Head of Tide in the Old Town Bluffton Historic District and zoned Neighborhood Conservation-HD district. (COFA-02-25-019607) (Staff - Charlotte Moore)]
AHEAD OF TIDE OR REQUEST BY ROBERT L GRAVES A THIRD APPLICANT ON BEHALF JASON ALEXANDER PROPERTY OWNER FOR REVIEW OF A SEAWAY HD TO ALLOW A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION TO AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCE TO BE LOCATED MOSTLY WITHIN THE EXISTING HIPPED ROOF AND PARTIALLY WITHIN A GABLE AND ADDITION PROPOSED CHANGES INCLUDE A PARTIAL CLOSURE OF A REAR PORCH REPLACING, A SECOND FLOOR VENT WITH AN EGRESS WINDOW AND ADDING A SIDE YARD STOOP THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT ONE HEAD OF TIDE IN THE OLD TOWN BLUFFTON HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT ALREADY THANK YOU AT THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED RIGHT OFF STARK FARM ROAD SEE THERE ONSTAR HOWEVER IS NOT WITHIN THE STOCK FARM DEVELOPMENT AND IS NOT PART OF A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW HAS MATURED FOR YEARS THAT SURROUND THE EXISTING HOUSES WHERE AS WELL AS THE CARRIAGE HOUSE AND HERE IS THE ORIGINAL PLAN THIS PROPERTY THE HOUSE WAS ACTUALLY BUILT BEFORE IT ANNEXED INTO THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON AND SO THE ZONING AT THE TIME OF ANNEXATION IT WAS PLACE AND HERE IS HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND SOME CURRENT PHOTOS YOU CAN SEE THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGING IN THE FRONT ELEVATION IS THAT THIS VENT WILL CHANGE INTO A WINDOW.
HERE IS THE RIGHT ELEVATION THE EAST ELEVATION THERE WILL BE THE THE DOOR LOCATED APPROXIMATELY HERE WITH THE STOOP AND THERE IS A SERVICE YARD HERE IS THE REAR PORTION OF THE HOUSE THE PORCH. THIS WILL BE PARTIALLY ENCLOSED A LAUNDRY ROOM AND THEN THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE PLACE WHERE THERE WILL BE CHANGES ADDITIONALLY TO PORCH ENCLOSURE AND THE SIDE DOOR STOOP THERE IS A SERVICE AREA THAT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE PLAN AND THERE IS ALSO A WINDOW BOX THAT WILL BE REMOVED AND WE'LL NEED TO GET
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SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE ENCLOSURE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. THE VENT WILL BE REPLACED WITH THE WINDOW AND THEN THERE WILL BE A GABLE IN THAT WILL BE ADDED IN WILL BE THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO HAVE A SECOND MASTER BEDROOM. SO HERE IS THE PROPOSED ALTERATIONS THAT YOU SEE UP ABOVE HERE THE WINDOW THE COLUMNS RIGHT NOW DO NOT APPEAR TO BE THIS WAY AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE REPLACED BUT THEY DO SHOW DIFFERENTLY I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT HERE ON THE RIGHT ELEVATION IS THE WINDOW BOX THAT WILL BE REMOVED. WE'LL NEED SOME INFORMATION REGARDING HOW THIS WILL BE ENCLOSED. AND THEN YOU SEE HERE THE BACK PORCH WITH THE PARTIAL ENCLOSURE AND THEN THE GABLE END THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED. AND SO AGAIN A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THE DOOR IN THE FRONT DOESN'T EXACTLY MATCH THE CURRENT DOOR SO I'VE JUST PUT LITTLE X'S HERE IDENTIFY THAT THESE WERE NOT INTENDED TO CHANGE BASED ON OUR DISCUSSION AT HP OR SEE HERE THE MAIN CHANGE WITH PARTICULAR PROJECT THE NEW ADDITION AND AGAIN THAT WINDOW BOX WILL BE REMOVED. IT'S LOCATED APPROXIMATELY IN THAT AREA.THERE WILL BE NO TREES REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY SO THERE IS NO NEED FOR A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THERE ARE SOME SECTIONS OF YOU SEE THAT DETAIL THEY WILL PROVIDE A FEE SO THIS WILL BE A TWO STORY RESIDENCE THE SPACE RIGHT NOW IS EXISTS BUT THE ONLY CHANGE WILL TO THIS AREA THAT YOU SEE HERE AND SOME DETAILS HERE THESE WEREN'T TERRIBLY HELPFUL AND.
I THINK THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL INFORMATION THAT WILL BE NEEDED THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THE CONDITIONS. SO THE REVIEW CRITERIA ARE FOR FOR THE MOST PART THIS APPLICATION DOES CONFORM. THERE ARE SOME CONDITIONS THAT THEY ARE PROVIDED STAFF BELIEVES THAT ALL FOUR CRITERIA WILL BE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION AND SOME OF THIS WE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY OBTAINED BUT WE DID NOT SO I'LL I'LL POINT THAT OUT WE DO NEED TO GET A LETTER OF AGENCY FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE APPLICANT TO ACT ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS BEHALF. WE DO NEED SOME CURRENT FOOTAGE INFORMATION IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THAT SECOND FLOOR SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED SO WE NEED TO GET THAT UPDATED AND SHOWN ON THE PLAN. JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'VE GOT THE CORRECT MATERIAL FOR THE ROOF IDENTIFIED AND WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME MORE DETAILS RELATING TO THE STOOP MATERIALS AND MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE WINDOW AND THE DOOR FINISHES AS WELL AS THE OPERATIONS. THE ADDRESS ON THE PLAN DOES NEED TO BE CORRECTED. THE SERVICE YARD LOCATION NOT SHOWN AND DOES NEED TO BE SHOWN ADDITIONALLY. IT MAY BE EXPANDED I'M NOT CERTAIN WITH THAT CHANGE THE SECOND FLOOR SO IF IT NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED THAT WILL HAVE TO BE SHOWN ON THE PLANS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL DETAILS CERTAIN THAT ANY EQUIPMENT IS SCREENED AND I WANTED TO ADD A FEW MORE THINGS THAT WEREN'T ON YOUR STAFF REPORT AND SO THERE WERE THREE MORE ITEMS WE'D LIKE TO SEE A WALL SECTION THROUGH DETAIL FOR THE PORCH ADDITION. WE WANTED SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE WALL AREA WHERE THE WINDOW IS PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AND ALSO TO HAVE DOOR THAT'S PROPOSED ON THE RIGHT ELEVATION TO ALIGN THE WINDOW HEIGHT AND WITH THOSE TEN ITEMS THAT IS ALL WE HAVE COMMISSIONED TONIGHT CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS IT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS EITHER THE CONDITIONS STAFF PROVIDED OR YOU CAN FEEL FREE ADD ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS IF NECESSARY OR DENY THE APPLICATION AND WITH THAT SORRY I DIDN'T INCLUDE A SLIDE WITH THE MOTION BUT WE CAN WE WORK THROUGH THAT AND WITH THAT I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS HERE THAT ARE INCOMPLETE BEFORE THE APPLICATION IS EVEN BROUGHT FORWARD AND I'M SORRY IF THAT'S THAT'S A COMMENT OR A QUESTION FOR ME.
I MEAN IT'S KIND OF KIND OF BOTH IF YOU GO BACK TO TO YOUR NUMBERS LIKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I MEAN HAS THAT BEEN UPDATED AND THEN A LETTER OF AGENCY AND I WILL TELL YOU I HAVE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER REGARDING THIS APPLICATION SO I'M NOT
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CONCERNED WITH THAT. I WOULD NOT UNCOMFORTABLE IF YOU TOOK A VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT WITH THAT CONDITION THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THAT FINAL PLAN SIGN OFF APPROVAL UNTIL HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER DID SIGN THE APPLICATION.BUT THERE IS ACTUALLY A REQUIREMENT TO ALSO HAVE A LETTER OF AGENCY.
SO I'M NOT IN UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HAVING THIS AS A CONDITION AND THEN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AS THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE THEY DO MEET THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS ARE UNDER THAT REQUIREMENT BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE THE ACCURATE INFORMATION FROM THE HEATHER QUESTIONS PROCESS AS FAR AS THE DETAILING GOES IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF IT IS TO MATCH THE EXISTING BUT I THINK WE'LL NEED SOME CLARIFICATION FROM THE APPLICANT ON THAT. ARE YOU AS STAFF COMFORTABLE REVIEWING THOSE DETAILS WITHOUT I AM, YES I AM TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING MATERIALS OF THE HOUSE OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE YOU HEAR FROM APPLICANT AND THANK YOU AND THE APPLICANT PRESENT AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT YOU'RE EVIDENCING FORGIVE ME I HAVE NOT FILLED OUT ONE OF THESE WITH YOU GUYS IN MANY YEARS AND I'M HOPEFULLY GOING TO GET BETTER AT IT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
I PLAN TO DO A FEW MORE PROJECTS AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT KIND OF WORKING OUT THE KINKS AS FAR AS TO ME WHAT WE CONSIDERED MATCH EXISTING LIKE YOU BROUGHT UP. I HAVE NO INTENT OF CHANGING THE FRONT COLUMNS ON THE HOUSE . THE GOAL HERE IS TO MAKE IT BLEND INTO THE EXISTING SURROUNDING STRUCTURES AND WORKING WITH THIS ARCHITECT THAT I HAVE NOT WORKED WITH BEFORE DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT OTHER THAN TO SAY MATCH EXISTING I THINK BASED THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AT THE PRC TO REQUIRE EIGHT FOOT ELEVATIONS INSIDE THE HOME THAT HAS BEEN MET. WE DEFINITELY HAVE THE CEILING HEIGHT INSIDE THE EXISTING ROOF DECK AS WELL AS THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE LETTER OF AGENCY. THERE'S A FEW THINGS ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ON THE APPLICATION TO INCLUDE OUT LETTERS WHICH I SPOKE WITH SAM ABOUT THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME AND IN WORKING THROUGH THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A FEW YEARS BUT THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE PRODUCT THAT IS ULTIMATELY CONFORMING AND LOOKS LIKE IT WAS NEVER MODIFIED.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE WAY IT WAS WHEN IT WAS BUILT. SO THAT'S THE GOAL HERE FOR US AND I THINK WITH THE HELP OF STAFF WE CAN PROVIDE AN APPLICATION THAT MEETS ALL THE BOXES FOR YOU GUYS, ULTIMATELY FITS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? COULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? JUST SORRY. FIRST I'M COVERING THE BASES TREY GRAVES OR ROBERT L GRAVES THE THIRD ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GRAVES SO THE SERVICE YARD SO YOU ANTICIPATING ANOTHER COMPRESSOR AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER COMPRESSOR THE SERVICE YARD IS BIG ENOUGH THAT IT WILL ACCEPT ADDITION WITHOUT MODIFYING IT IN ANY WAY. OKAY SO WE'RE STICKING WITH THE SAME SERVICE YARD.
YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH ANYTHING I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY NEW STOOP AND RAILING. IS THAT INTENDED TO MATCH THE RAILING ON THE FRONT SO YEAH SO IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO BACK YOU CAN GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THE ARROW KEYS SO YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT THIS APPEARS TO BE A TWO BY SIX WITH A ONE BY FOUR APRON ON THE SIDE, TWO BY TWO PICKETS AND THEN ONE BY FOUR AT THE BOTTOM THE ONLY DETAILED RAILING OR THE DETAILED COLUMNS ARE ABOVE THE HORIZONTAL PLANE ,THE GUARDRAIL. WE'RE NOT ADDING THOSE FOR THE STOOP.
SO WILL BE THE NOMINAL LUMBER THAT IS ON THE EXISTING PORCH FOR THE NEW STOOP.
OKAY AND THE EAVES ARE MATCHING THE EXISTING AND TO SHOW THESE WITH MORE THAN LIKELY WOULDN'T
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DO PERFORATED JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'LL BE A SPRAY FOAM ELEMENT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE IT BUT YES FOR THE MOST PART IT'LL BE ROUGH ON PLY OR WHATEVER EXISTING WHICH LOOKS TO ME TO BE THREE EIGHT IT WILL PLAY WAS NOT AN APPROVED MATERIAL SO IT'LL NEED TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S ON CYPRESS TO MATCH EXISTING IF THAT IS YOUR INTENT THEN WE WILL TRY THAT DO WE NEED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR THE ACCEPTABLE ACCEPTABILITY OF THE ROCKS ON CYPRESS PLY THE MATCH? WELL SIR ARE YOU THINKING PLYWOOD OR ARE YOU THINKING JUST BOARDS? WHAT IS THERE? SEE IT LOOKS TO ME TO BE ONE BY EIGHT WITH A PERFORATION. THEY DON'T MAKE A 16 INCH BOARD.YEAH, I THINK IT IS MATCH. OKAY. PERFORATED OR NOT PERFORATED.
IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER. THE SPRAY FOAM WILL TAKE CARE OF IT SO.
WE NEED TO ADD PERFORATION. WE WILL. OKAY.
CAN YOU GO TO THE 3-D VIEW THE BACK? YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
SO THERE'S TWO WINDOWS IN THE LAUNDRY. WAS THERE ANY REASON THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROPORTIONS, JUST A BIGGER WALL. AND IF YOU LOOK TOWARDS THE WINDOWS ON THIS SIDE, IT WOULD BE THE SAME DIMENSIONS THOSE SO THE SAME DIMENSION BUT THE ONE THAT SPATTERS ON THAT SIDE IS CORRECT THAT THE 3-D VIEW. YEAH SO THIS THOSE THE ONES THE SIDE ARE THE SAME DIMENSIONS THE ONE IN THE BACK RIGHT A BETTER ONE IS HERE IN HERE.
YEAH I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY JUST A GO TO THE REAR ELEVATION YOU THAT'S THAT ONE LOOKS LIKE IT ALMOST MATCHES THAT ONE THERE BUT THE BIGGER BETTER ONE YEAH WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IT'S YOU KNOW THERE'S SO CLOSE THERE'S A SIDE AND GO TO THE SIDE I THINK THE ACTUAL ELEVATION CUT OUR WAY ALL THE WAY THE THING THAT ONE'S THE SAME AS THAT.
OKAY AND THEN THE BACK ONE IS THE SAME AS THE ONE OVER THERE THE THE BACK.
YEAH. SO I THINK AGAIN BACK TO THE FIRST TIME KIND OF GETTING THAT WINDOW BACK OUT YEAH THE GOAL IS TO MATCH YOU KNOW MAKE IT CONGRUENT.
IS THERE A WINDOW THERE NOW. NO IT'S A SCREEN PORCH ONE IS A WINDOW ON THE LEFT SIDE IT'S A SINGLE 3068. THEY'RE GOING TO BE GRIDS IN THE WINDOW.
THEY'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE SO CURRENTLY IT'S SINGLE HUNG NO GRID.
OKAY SO WE'RE MATCHING THESE THIS THING. OKAY.
HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR DISCUSSION ON THE PROJECT TODAY? CHAIRMAN DEPAUL YOU DIDN'T ASK ABOUT THE ROUGH SUN. WOULD SOMEBODY THAT IS NOT A PERMITTED MATERIAL OKAY SO FOR THEM TO EXISTING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE MOTION THAT IS ACCEPTABLE RIGHT OKAY WELL I MEAN I'M YOU KNOW HAPPY WITH THE OVERALL SHAPE OF THE ADDITION THINK IT'S A NICE IMPROVEMENT TO I THINK IT WAS A SHED ROOF AT THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION SO I THINK YOU KNOW PRESENTED HERE IS MUCH MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE ARCHITECTURE FORMS OF THE HOUSE THERE THERE YOU KNOW I THINK THEY'VE GOT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE JUST NOTES THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED UP. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IF THAT IS PROVIDED GENERALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO COMPLY.
THAT'S AS FAR AS DETAILS. YOU KNOW, WE DO TO SEE THAT LEVEL OF INFORMATION FROM PEOPLE WE HAVE KIND OF GIVEN SOME PEOPLE A HARD TIME ON THAT IN THE PAST BUT A LOT OF THIS
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IS REALLY MATCHING THE EXISTING AND I THINK I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH REVIEWING THAT IF YOU GUYS FEEL YOU'RE MAYBE NOT AS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN THINK ABOUT. YOU KNOW VRC MEMBERS ALSO PUT THEIR ON THE THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS MEETING I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT PART OF THAT YEAH I'M FINE WITH IT BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE REVIEW COMMITTEE WHEN THEY GET THERE LIKE THE SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE MATERIALS FOR THE STOOPS AND ALL THOSE ARE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE KNOWN BEFORE ARE PRESENTED TO US RIGHT I DON'T DISAGREE. I THINK THAT THE RANGE FOR THE OF ADDITIONAL BUILDING TYPE IN THIS CASE IS LARGE ENOUGH UNDERSTOOD BUT TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU IS ALSO STILL GOOD YES. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ABOUT MY FEELING ABOUT FEEL GOOD I MEAN DO WE MAKE A CONDITION THAT THEY THEY THIS STATE IN THE PLANS THE INTENDED MATERIALS YEAH I MEAN I THINK STAFF IS ASKING THAT THEY PROVIDE THE LARGER DETAILS LOOK ENLARGE OF ALL SECTIONS THAT I'M OKAY WITH THAT TYPICALLY SEE OKAY IS ANYBODY READY TO MAKE A MOTION TO IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH STACK RECOMMENDATIONS ONE THROUGH TEN WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE PRC MEMBERS ALSO SEE THE REQUIRED ADDITIONAL DETAILING AND INFORMATION FOR REVIEW AS PART OF THAT STAFF REVIEW IN THE ONGOING AND ALSO WE DETERMINE THAT THE ROUGH ON WOOD SOFFIT TO MATCH EXISTING IS A PERMITTED MATERIAL AN ACCEPTABLE MATERIAL IN THIS CASE I THINK SECOND WE WERE IN DISCUSSION ON THE AND ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY I I ANY OPPOSED THAT THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS VERY MUCH THANK YOU LATER WE HAVE ALREADY HANDLED ALL RIGHT HANDLE DISCUSSION IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOVED AND A SECOND AGAIN ALL IN FAVOR I THIS MEETING HAS ADJOURNE* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.