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CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY BUFORT COUNTY.

THE MEETING TO ORDER AND START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

FLAG DIRECTION.

THIS FACE, CIRCUIT? YEAH.

OKAY.

ALLEGIANCE THE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND ONE NATION.

ONE NATION.

INVIS WITH LIBERTY.

LIBERTY.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT ITEM IS A STATEMENT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE FOI.

CAN YOU TURN OFF JUST A LITTLE BIT? THINK WHAT'S THAT? YES, YES, YES, YES.

UH, FOR MY EDUCATION, WHAT IS THE FOIA? CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY? YES.

WE'RE JUST WAITING ON BRYSON TO COME BACK.

HE ASKED IF WE COMPLIED WITH FOIA.

YES, WE ARE.

OKAY, PERFECT.

OKAY.

UM, NEXT ITEM IS WE NEED AN APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THIS AGENDA.

TODAY'S AGENDA.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

THE MOTION TO APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA IS APPROVED.

IS, IS COMPLETE AND APPROVED.

UM, NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR MEETING LAST TUESDAY.

UH, THOSE WERE SENT OUT, UM, A MOVE APPROVAL.

I SUBMITTED.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

YOU NEED A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 8TH MINUTES.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

MINUTES.

OKAY.

THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE APRIL 8TH MINUTES IS APPROVED.

OKAY.

NOW WE'VE GOT, UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF GRANT PRESENTATIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

DO WE WANT TO, UH, WHAT'S THE GENERAL PROCESS FOR THIS? JUST TO GO RIGHT DOWN THE LINE AND THIS IS THE SHEET WE'RE GOING DOWN THE LINE OF, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.

THAT PUTS ME FIRST WITH ISLAND AIRPORT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

UM, I, IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE ASKED THEM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND WE ASKED THEM SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT OTHER REVENUE SOURCES AND THINGS.

UM, IN OUR ANALYSIS, MY ANALYSIS OF THEIR PRESENTATION ABOUT BRINGING VISIBLE EXCLUSIVELY TO THE ISLAND, UH, IN COMPETING SORT OF WITH A SAVANNAH AIRPORT UNDER THE PERCEPTION THAT PEOPLE MIGHT DRIVE INTO SAVANNAH, RENT A CAR AND DRIVE TO HILTON HEAD.

UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ACCOMMODATION TAX ISSUE, UH, OUTSIDE THE GATES OF, OF THE BRIDGE TO HILTON HEAD.

UH, I DO THINK THAT THE SUCCESS OF THE AIRPORT IS IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REVENUE AND SOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM.

AND THIS PARTICULAR CAMPAIGN, WHILE IT MIGHT BE, UH, LARGELY HELPFUL, IS NOT GOING TO MAKE SOMEONE DECIDE, UH, COME TO THE ISLAND, MIGHT MAKE THEM DECIDE TO COME TO VIA THE AIRPORT VERSUS ANOTHER MEANS.

SO I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT THE, THIS BEING A ENTERPRISE FUNDED AGENCY OWNED BY COUNTY AND FUNDED PARTIALLY BY FAA AND PARTIALLY BY FEES FROM AIRLINE AIRPLANES, UH, HANG AROUND IN OTHER PLACES, I DON'T THINK FUND US.

I PERSONALLY WOULD RECOMMEND TO THEM, UH, THAT WE, UH, WHOEVER THEY WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH 'EM TO BUILD ADDITIONAL HANGERS OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT PRODUCES RECURRING INCOME FOR THEM.

AND BECAUSE AS THE GUY DESCRIBED, THEY HAVE 60 PEOPLE WAITING FOR HANGERS AND THEY HAVE PLANES PARKED ON APRONS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE HANGERS AVAILABLE TO RENT.

MY IMMEDIATE RESPONSE TO THAT IS, BILL MORE HANGERS THE RANGE OF PRICE FOR RENT, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ENOUGH TO FUND THIS WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR US.

SO THEY'VE ASKED FOR HANGERS FOR THE OTHER AIRPORT, NOT THIS ONE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO, AND THERE'S A NEED FOR BOTH.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR APPLICATION AND THE INFORMATION THAT DECLINED THE FUNDING.

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ANYBODY ELSE HAVE THOUGHTS THAT I I I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT WAS MY THINKING WHEN THEY WERE PRESENTING ANYBODY ELSE? UH, ONE QUICK QUESTION THAT FOR SOME REASON I CAN'T REMEMBER.

UH, WHAT'S THE, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE TO AWARD? SO OUR BUDGET WAS 1.3 MILLION FOR CYCLE ONE.

WE AWARDED OUT 760,250.

SO WE ARE AT SIX SOMETHING.

UM, 6 8 7 1 SEVENTY'S A.

THAT'S HOW MUCH? WELL, THAT'S THE REQUEST.

YEAH.

WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT? SO WE HAVE 539,750.

OKAY.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE DON'T ALLOCATE THAT ALL, WE CAN CARRY IT OVER TO NEXT YEAR OR PERHAPS DO SOME OTHER STUFF, BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT UNDER AN OBLIGATION TO SPEND.

AND WHAT TYPES OF THINGS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN PERHAPS DO OTHER STUFF? WELL, UH, I THINK WE NEED DIRECTION FROM COUNTY COUNCIL.

THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD ASK FOR THEM.

BUT THE STATE LAW WOULD ALLOW US TO DO ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.

BUT THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IS THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE DONE UNDER STATE AND APPLICATED.

LET GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

IF SAY, UH, ONE OF THE FACILITIES HERE IN COUNTY ON PICKED FOR FREMONT, BECAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT, CAME BACK IN AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE EXTENDED HOURS SO THAT PEOPLE TO COME TO THE COUNTY AND CAN GO VISIT THERE AT DIFFERENT TIMES, ALL THEM STAY LONGER, THAT SORT OF STUFF.

THE STATE LAW WOULD ALLOW US TO CONSIDER THAT.

AND ONE OF THE HOPES I HAVE FOR THIS COMMITTEE AT SOME POINT, THIS IS A PERSONAL ISSUE, IS THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW, WHAT WE EXPECT FROM THESE VARIOUS SUB ATTRACTS AND HOW WE CAN HELP THEM GET THERE.

THAT MEANS THAT PROBABLY A SYSTEM AND THE COUNTY COUNCIL HAS BEEN PRESENTED WITH ONE, NOT UNLIKE THE SYSTEM THAT THEY USE IN EUROPE, WHERE THEY LOOK AT THINGS LIKE WHAT'S IT LIKE WHEN YOU ARRIVE? A SENSE OF ARRIVAL PLACE.

WHAT'S THE INTERNET PRECEDENCE? WHAT'S THE EXPERIENCE WHY YOU'RE THERE? IS THERE A STORY TO BE TOLD? IS THERE SOMEONE THERE TELLING IT? ARE YOU OPEN REGULAR HOURS? DO YOU HAVE PARKING? DO YOU HAVE, UH, AIR CONDITIONING? THOSE SORTS OF THINGS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO DO MORE.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CULTURAL, HISTORIC, AND OTHER ATTRACTIONS IN THIS COUNTY AND POTENTIALLY WE HAVE HUGE OPPORTUNITIES AND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WILL FUND WITH THIS AT TAX.

BUT IF IT DOES INVOLVE BRINGING PEOPLE TO, LET'S SAY, ONE OF THE SHELL RINGS THAT'S OUT THERE AND PEOPLE WANNA GROW IT OR TO SOME OTHER ACTIVITY, THAT'S SOMETHING THIS A COMBAT ACTIVATION TAX CAN DO.

BUT I THINK HAVING BEEN AT SOME OF THESE TRAINING SESSIONS, LIKE MANY OF YOU HAVE, MANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE INTERESTED IN KNOWING MORE ABOUT HOW THEY CAN RETAIN, UH, VISITORS, ENCOURAGING THEM TO COME BACK.

AND UH, THAT PROBABLY GOES BEYOND JUST FUNDING FESTIVALS AND ACTIVITIES OF THE TAX.

MM-HMM .

SEEING A LOT OF APPLICATIONS.

SO BRIAN, CAN WE USE SOME AT TAX MONEY TO FUND THE STUDY IF WE GO TO USCB TO FOLLOW UP ON THESE ACTIVITIES? YOU FIND THE STUDY THAT YOU TALKING ABOUT USCB HAS, I FORGOT THE NAME OF IT.

THEY COME AROUND.

SO IF YOU'RE GONNA FUND THE GULLAH FESTIVAL, THEY WOULD SEND STUDENTS OUT OR WHATEVER TO DO WHAT DICK JUST SAID, HOW'S YOUR EXPERIENCE, WHERE ARE YOU FROM, BLAH BLAH, BLAH.

DO SOME DATA COLLECTION.

SO HE SHOWED IT AT THE ONE MEETING.

WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO BRIAN IS THAT, UM, LET'S TAKE JUST, WE'LL USE A, UH, SAMPLE GALL MUSEUM HILTON HEAD.

YEAH.

IN WHAT WE DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, WE HIRED THE HOSPITALITY AND TOURISM GROUP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA BEAVER.

AND THEY APPLIED A REGULAR CRITERIA.

AND SO THEY WENT OUT AND LOOKED AT WHAT YOUR SENSE OF ARRIVAL IS, LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAD FACILITIES THERE, LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT IF YOU HAD RETAIL, DID IT WORK? DID YOU HAVE PARKING? WERE YOU OPEN SUFFICIENT HOURS? IF SOMEONE WERE THERE, WOULD THEY GET A SENSE OF A CERTAIN EXPERIENCE AND BE SATISFIED WITH THAT? AND BY DOING THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS, THOSE FOLKS THAT WERE EVALUATED THAT YEAR, AND THAT INCLUDED A NUMBER OF THEM, PENN CENTER FOR LOS MARITIME CENTER AND OTHERS, THEY WERE PLEASED TO SEE THE AREAS THEY NEEDED TO APPROVE IN, UH, COASTAL DISCOVERY MUSEUM WAS DONE.

AND HAVING A MECHANISM LIKE THAT WHERE THOSE FOLKS WERE LOOKING TO APPROVE DOESN'T MEAN WE FUNDED THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE, BUT IT DOES MEAN THAT WILL HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH WHETHER THE VISITORS HAVE A GOOD EXPERIENCE AND COME BACK.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, I'M THE COUNTY'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CBB BOARD.

KEN'S ON THAT BOARD AND LOB WELLS STUDIES THAT INDICATE THAT ABOUT 60% OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO BEAVER COUNTY EXPECT TO HAVE CULTURAL AND HISTORIC, UH, EXPERIENCE IF YOU HAD, UH, OUTDOOR 70.

BUT THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL FOLKS COME AWAY WITH ABOUT A 48%

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SATISFACTION RATE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS GREAT EXPECTATION WHEN THEY GET THERE.

THE EXPECTATIONS A LITTLE LESS THAN THEY WOULD LIKE.

THAT WAS USING CH CHARLIE CALVERT AND HIS FOLKS.

THAT WAS, UH, CHARLIE WAS THERE THEN, BUT THAT GROUP, YEAH.

YEAH.

UM, DISCUSSION ITEM IN FINANCE, .

RIGHT? YEAH.

BILL HAD DID THAT TOO.

I DON'T REMEMBER IF TURK ALLOWED FOR THAT OR NOT.

OR IF WE USED GENERAL FUND OR LOCAL 3% ATEX MONEY.

MM-HMM.

THE LOCAL 3% ATEX MONEY IS EASIER 'CAUSE YOU NOT HAVE TO JUSTIFY HOW IT QUALIFIES FOR PROMOTION OR ADVERTISING FOR TOURISM, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST CATEGORY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

RIGHT.

UM, SO PERSONALLY, RATHER THAN RUN THE RISK AND MAKE, UH, FINANCE OFFICE AND THE ATEX COMMITTEE SEND THIS JUSTIFICATION UP TO CHURCH MM-HMM .

WE MAY WANNA CONSIDER USING LOCAL 3% MONEY FOR THAT STUDY.

BUT NOW IF WE USE LOCAL 3% MONEY FOR THE STUDY AND THE STUDY COMES BACK AND SAID THEY NEED SOME PRESENCE ONLINE, WHICH WOULD BE MARKETING THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO BE FUNDED THROUGH HERE.

IS THAT CORRECT? THE PROMOTION AND, UH, ADVERTISING IS CLEARLY ELIGIBLE FUNDING FROM ANY, ANY TEXT FUNDS.

BUT IF THAT KIOSK GOING GROUND, TELLING THE STORY OF AND IF WE, IF HE DENIED, UM, WHAT IS A JUSTIFICATION, DID WE GET JUSTIFICATION OF THE DENIAL? HE HAD SOMETHING HE HAD TO CONVINCE TUR THAT IT QUALIFIES UNDER.

OKAY.

WHAT DENIAL YOU REFERRING TO? NO, THAT JUST THAT THAT'S THE ONE YOU SAID YOU, YOU AGREE NOT FIND THAT EFFORT.

OKAY.

WE DON'T NEED TO GIVE A, YOU DON'T NEED TO CASE CHANGE TO THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.

OKAY.

ON THE, ON THE AIRPORT, MY REASONING IS THAT OUR TASK IS TO INVEST THESE DOLLARS IN WAGE THAT WILL INCREASE THE RETURN OF THESE DOLLARS IN THE COUNTY.

THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS BY SUBSIDIARY OF THE COUNTY DOESN'T SEEM THAT'S CORRECT.

AS I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DICK, WAS THAT YOU SAID THAT YEAH.

IT'S CLEARLY ADVERTISING PROMOTIONS, BUT IT WASN'T NECESSARILY FOR TOURISM TO DRAW.

AND, AND IF YOU READ IT, THEY SAY IT BASICALLY GOOD PEOPLE COME THERE AND , UM, KEN, WHO'S GOING TO WRITE UP THE LITTLE BLURBS FOR COUNTY COUNCIL, THE VICE CHAIR IS IN CHARGE OF THE MEETING.

SO I'D SAY IT'S HIM.

UH, YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU I'M AWARE OF IT.

KEN.

I'M HAPPY TO HELP YOU IF YOU WANT.

THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.

, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOES TO FINANCE CONVEY.

OKAY.

UH, DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THE LAST ONE THAT WAS SENT AS MAYBE A, AS A, I CAN SEND YOU ONE.

THANK YOU.

WILL YOU PROBABLY PROBABLY SEND IT THE LAST LIKE THREE YEARS.

OKAY.

KEN, WE'LL SEND YOU THE LAST THREE YEARS SO YOU HAVE SAMPLES TO LOOK AT.

THANK YOU.

UM, KEN, WILL YOU, IS YOUR GOAL TO PRESENT THIS AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING NEXT WEEK? OTHERWISE YOU GOTTA WAIT A MONTH.

IT'S NOT GONNA GET DONE IN TIME TO GET THERE.

WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A AGENDA REVIEW TOMORROW.

IT JUST HAS TO BE ON THERE.

BUT HE WOULD'VE TO HAVE HIS WRITEUP DONE BEFORE IT'S PUBLISHED TO GET THERE.

UM, BY FRIDAY.

CERTAINLY BY MONDAY.

BUT HE MAY EVEN BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS DONE BY MONDAY.

I DON'T KNOW.

CAN I, I, I WOULD REQUEST IF WE COULD TO TRY TO GET IT ON THAT AND GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IF WE HAVE TO DELAY IT.

'CAUSE IT WASN'T READY.

FINALLY.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE IT READY TOMORROW.

LET'S DO IT.

OR AT LEAST GIVE AN ORAL, AN ORAL BRIEFING WITH A WRITTEN TO FILE FOR COUNCIL IF NECESSARY.

YES.

SO YOU ARE AT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AGENDA SETTING.

THAT'S TOMORROW.

SO COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON THERE? I'LL PUT IT ON TODAY.

DEPART? YEAH.

'CAUSE I'LL BE THERE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO, OH, YOU HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS ONE.

OKAY.

ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? ARE WE GONNA VOTE ONE AT A TIMES WE GO DOWN? UM, WELL, AN ALTERNATIVE IS TO GO IS WOULD BE TO GO THROUGH THEM AND THEN COME BACK.

I MEAN, GO THROUGH THEM, HAVE EVERYBODY KIND OF TALK ABOUT EACH ONE AND THEN COME BACK AND VOTE ON EACH ONE JUST SO YOU, IT'S THEY'RE KIND OF RELATIVE TO EACH OTHER.

IS ONE, ONE APPROACH OR THAT'S THAT'S HOW WE DID IT LAST YEAR OR THE LITTLE FIRST CYCLE.

YEAH.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THEM.

AND THEN YOU VOTED AS A WHOLE.

YEAH.

BUT IF YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE CLEARLY YOU'RE NOT GONNA FUND, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU.

YOU'RE THE COMMITTEE.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

IF THERE'S ONE THAT'S LIKE FOR ME.

I MEAN, I, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THIS BEFORE, I DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REST OF 'EM.

I, I'M A NO ON THE AIRPORT.

IF WE COULD SUGGEST, WHILE IT'S FRESH IN OUR MEMORY, UH, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FORMAT THAN THE LAST TIME, BECAUSE WE JUST FINISHED THE PRESENTATION, I LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET A, UH, DISCUSSION, PARTICULARLY ON THE ZEROS AND THE, WHEN WE START MOVING MONEY AROUND OTHER ONE MEETING, WHETHER IT'S 30 OR 36.

RIGHT.

WE DISCUSS THAT THIS SHOULD BE OUTTA THE WAY ONE, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, I'D LIKE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND SAY IF YOU'RE GONNA FUND IT OR NOT.

I RECOMMEND NOT.

SOUNDS GOOD.

I'M FINE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

SO LET'S, I I, I'LL MAKE THAT IN A FORM OF A MOTION THEN.

RIGHT.

THERE YOU GO.

SECOND.

ONE SECOND.

I, I'LL SECOND IT.

I VOTE NO TWO BECAUSE OF THE CRITERIA AND THE GUIDELINES STATED OUTLINE IN THE GUIDELINE FOR THE APEX MONIES.

NO.

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OKAY.

ANITA, WE NEED YOUR VOTE.

OH, YOU ARE UP MUTE.

NO, THANK YOU.

TWO KEN LIVES.

KEN, YOU HAVE TWO.

I DO.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO FOR THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL, THE FIRST WAS KIDS, KIDS IN PARKS.

SO THAT'S THEIR, AS YOU WOULD CALL, PARTICIPATION KIND OF A LARGER EFFORT, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO, TO SPEND TIME OUTDOORS.

UM, SO WE CAN START.

AND THEN THE SECOND WAS REALLY, UH, I BELIEVE PURE MARKETING, RIGHT? UH, ADDITIONAL MARKETING FOR AWARENESS, WHICH THEY USE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC RELATIONS, UM, AND THEY USE SOME DIGITAL MARKETING.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, I'M I'M NEW OR MUCH NEWER TO THE AREA THAN MOST OF YOU.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DATA THAT THEY SHOWED, WHICH, WHICH A LOT OF WHICH COMES FROM THE CBB SEEMS CREDIBLE.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ATTRACTION AND DRAWS PEOPLE HERE THAT DON'T, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM OUT OF TOWN AND FAR ENOUGH OUT OF TOWN WHERE THEY, IT'S REASONABLE TO ASSUME THEY MAY STAY IN A HOTEL AND SPEND OTHER MONEY WHILE THEY'RE HERE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK I, I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ATTRACTION.

I WOULD BE IN, IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING IT.

I'D BE INTERESTED IF, IF, IF ANYBODY AGREES AND IF SO, DO THEY THINK THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE RIGHT? UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT ATTRACTION.

I SUPPORT IT.

I'D LIKE TO SEPARATE THE TWO ITEMS A LITTLE BIT.

THE KITTEN PARKING INITIATIVE IS FUNDED BY BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD.

IT'S INTENDED TO GET KIDS OFF THE SCREEN, BUT OUTSIDE BUILDING STUFF, UM, I'M NOT SO SURE, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT WITH THIS OBJECTIVE, BUT THEY HADN'T, UH, THE KIDS AND PARK FOLKS CAME DOWN AND THE COUNTY PARKS REC STAFF AND THE ION AUSTRALIA, A COUPLE OTHER FOLKS MET WITH THEM OUT THAT BURTON WELLS.

AND SO THIS IS AN OBJECTIVE THAT COULD EXTEND, EXTEND AROUND THE COUNTY.

BUT I'D LIKE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THEM IF WE CAN, IN THE KIDS OF PARK SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DO THAT AT OTHER PARK AS WELL.

BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE PRETTY IMPORTANT.

AND SOME FOLKS FEEL LIKE WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE ACTIVITY FOR OUR YOUNGER FOLKS AS OPPOSED TO OUR OLDER FOLKS.

AND MANY IN THE BUSINESS, PEOPLE BRING CHILDREN WITH IT.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

YOU RECOMMEND WE DO IT AT THE FULL AMOUNT IN GIVEN THE, GIVEN THE PROCEEDS WE HAVE, YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GIVEN THE PROCEEDS WE HAVE SHOULD BE THE CONSIDERATION.

UH, MY QUESTION IS 10 THOUSANDS ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, 5,500 DIGITAL PROGRAM FOR CURRENT MEDIA.

I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE'VE GIVEN THEM A LOT OF MONEY FOR MEDIUM PROMOTION IN THE PAST.

EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

THEY GOT SOME GIANT, UH, AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM OUR FOUNDATION.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE JUDICIOUS, BUT I'M NOT AND THEY, THEY WANT BROCHURES.

YEAH.

I I WOULD SUGGEST GIVE THEM HALF OF IT WHEN THEY CUT IN HALF BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THAT YOU LIKE PAYING SOMEBODY.

SO HALF I, I, I SUGGEST WE JUST CUT THE 10,000 FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, BECAUSE THAT'S SYSTEM SALARY.

YES.

AND SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.

YES.

AND THEY, BEFORE AT THE MEETING, THEY'RE GETTING LOTS OF REQUESTS FOR RENTALS OF THEIR, UH, BUILDING.

YES.

AND SO THAT'S AN INCOME SOURCE.

SO RATHER THAN CUT IT ALL IN HALF, I THINK WE NEED TO SUPPORT MARKETING SUPPORT BROCHURES AND REMOVE THE 10,000 FOR ADMINISTRATOR.

THINK THAT'S FOR 20, THAT'S FOR 22.

THERE'S TWO 20 MM-HMM .

THEY WANT, BUT THEY WENT 40,000 ACTUALLY.

MM-HMM .

THAT WAS JUST, YEAH.

I MEAN, SO I THINK DICK IS, IS DICK, DOES THAT END UP WITH 10,000 FOR ONE GRANT AND 20 FOR THE OTHER FOR 30 TOTAL? UH, YEAH, BUT IN OUR, IN OUR VERBIAGE, WE EXPLAINED TO HIM, WE CUT THE ADMIT STUFF AND THE OTHER THINGS SO THAT WHEN THEY SEND THEIR RECEIPTS IN, THEY HAVE TO SATISFY THAT REQUIREMENT.

NOW, I ALSO WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE PUT IN OUR VERBIAGE THAT THE KIDSON PARK INITIATIVE IS A BROAD BASED INITIATIVE LOOKING TO GET THAT TO ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST.

AND THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT EXPANDED INTO OTHER AREAS.

COUNTY, NOT BECAUSE WE EXPECT THEM TO DO THAT, BUT BECAUSE IF KIDS IN PARK IS GONNA BE A FOCUS IN BE SPANISH , IT CAN BE BURN WELLS, IT CAN BE BLOOD REGIONAL PARK, WE CAN HAVE THAT GROW AS A PROGRAM.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY, THEY TWO GR TOO ON APPLICATION.

I, MAYBE I'M WRONG, ISN'T PART OF IT FOR EXTENDING THE TRAIL.

THEY RECEIVED, UH, 2.5 MILLION THE STATE, AND THEY GOT ABOUT I THINK ANOTHER 600,000, THE COX FAMILY TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

BUT, UH, WE DON'T NEED TO, WE'RE NOT FUNDING THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

BUT MY QUESTION IS PROMOTING THE TRAIL,

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THEY DO THAT EVERY YEAR.

MM-HMM .

SO WHY DO THEY NEED 20,000 FOR THEIR SECOND GRANT THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE 'EM, IT SAYS TO CREATE A NEW MEDIA CAMPAIGN, THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE.

UH, I THINK THEY NEED TO DO PROMOTIONAL STUFF IN MEDIA CAMPAIGNS TO EXPIRE OR SOMETHING.

$20,000 WORTH.

WELL, THIS A WELL FUNDED GROUP AND EVERY YEAR ATEX FUNDS OF PLENTY.

WHEN, WHEN I SAID 10 BEFORE I MEANT 10 HERE, 10 THERE.

CUT EACH ONE AND HALF.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

10, 10, 10.

LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY GOING OUT THERE.

YEAH.

IT, IT, IT, WELL, IT, IT IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A LOT OF MONEY FOR MARKETING AND ADVERTISING JUST .

I MEAN, IT'S, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPAND OUT TO A LARGER REACH, WHAT MORE FUNDS ALLOWS YOU TO DO IS, IS UH, EITHER, YOU KNOW, EXTEND YOUR REACH RIGHT.

TO A BROADER AUDIENCE THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE RELEVANT, WILLING TO COME IN.

AND THERE'S PLENTY FOR HERE, RIGHT? WE ARE A FANTASTIC DRIVE TO DESTINATION OR, YOU KNOW, FOR LOTS OF MAJOR MARKETS, RIGHT.

THAT WE, THAT STILL DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT US.

UM, AND THAT'S EXPENSIVE TO REACH THAT.

AND I, AND I THINK THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS TO, UM, TO MARKET THE CHILDREN'S SIDE OF THE TRAIL, WHICH I, I, I THINK BEEN MORE FOR FAMILIES.

AND SO I AGREE WITH KEN AND I ALSO WILL MENTION TOO YOU THAT ONE OF THE REASON I THINK THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THESE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE STATE AND PEOPLE LIKE THE COX FAMILY IS BECAUSE THERE'S A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

AND THAT TRAIL IS INTENDED TO EXTEND FROM THE SANDS BEACH IN PORT ROYAL EVENTUALLY ALL THE WAY TO, UH, HIGH I 95, WHERE IT WILL JOIN ANOTHER TRADE GETTING ADDITIONAL CAPITAL MONEY COMES FROM OTHER SOURCES TO EXPAND.

THAT STUFF HAPPENS PARTIALLY BECAUSE THERE'S A PROMOTION AND THE UTILITIES, UH, USEFULNESS OF THIS TRAIL.

SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GROW AND GET TO DO THESE THINGS.

AND IF WE NEED NEXT YEAR TO LOOK AT THEIR RECEIPTS AND SEE IF WE'RE GETTING THE BANG THAT WE WANT FOR THIS, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

BUT I, I SUPPORT GIVING THE 20,000 FOR GENERAL MARKETING, UH, AND THE 10,000 FOR, UH, KIDS IN PARKS, BUT NOT THE 10,000 FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE.

SO I WROTE THAT, WROTE THAT MR. MOSS SAID QUOTE, THIS WILL NOT BRING ADDITIONAL PEOPLE HERE IF THEY KEEP THEM HERE LONGER.

THAT'S ALL IT SAYS IT.

SEE, HE SAID SINCE S ALREADY COME, I'M NOT BRINGING THIS ONE PEOPLE.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW THAT.

YEAH, BECAUSE THE TRAIL IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND, UH, PEOPLE KNOW, BUT YOU JUST, YOU JUST MAKE IT LONGER AND IT'S NOT GONNA BRING MORE PEOPLE IN TO USE IT.

WELL, I'M NOT SUGGESTING GONNA BRING EM IN AND I'M SUGGESTING THAT I OWN A HOTEL AND WE HAVE, UH, EIGHT BICYCLES.

WE THE GUESTS AND I KNOW REQUEST INCREASE THAT NUMBER TO 16 BECAUSE GUESTS HAVE TAKING A BICYCLE BY SPANISH FROM AUSTRALIA.

I IF THEY STAYING THEY OR NOT THAT , I ALSO NEED VERMONT BICYCLE TOURS COME TO YOU FOR COUNTY.

AND THEY'VE BEEN ADDING EXTRA TRIP EACH YEAR THAT BRINGS 30 PEOPLE IN AND STAY OVERNIGHT AND THEY RIDE BICYCLE.

THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE HOTEL BUSINESS.

I DUNNO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, STEVEN OR, YEAH.

YEAH.

MY MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT STATEMENT WAS HE WAS TRYING TO BE SOMEWHAT HUMBLE AND NOT AS PRESUMPTUOUS TO SAY THAT THIS, THIS IS THE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE REASON THEY'RE COMING.

RIGHT.

THE TRAIL.

BUT THAT, BUT THAT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT IS ONE OF THE REASONS, RIGHT? AMONGST LIKE, ANYTIME YOU PICK A DESTINATION, RIGHT, THERE'S A VARIETY OF THINGS YOU MIGHT LOOK AT.

AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT AMENITY THAT NEED, THAT PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE HERE, SO THAT IT'S, IT'S IN THE CONTEXT OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR TRAVEL DECISION.

YEAH.

I THINK IT IS A REASON PEOPLE STAY EXTRA NIGHTS.

MM-HMM.

UM, DEFINITELY.

WELL, THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.

YES.

CAN WE, OF THE OTHER 30, CAN WE CIRCLE BACK TO SEE AFTERWARDS WHAT WE'VE ALLOCATED AND UM, IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT, THEN WE CAN ENTERTAIN BILL THE 10.

I'M TRYING TO MOVE US OFF OF THAT.

YEAH.

IT'S A FUNDED PROJECT OR NOT, RIGHT? DON'T, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE MONEY DOESN'T MEAN YEAH.

WE CAN CIRCLE BACK.

CIRCLE BACK.

SO WE'RE LEAVING NUMBER THREE OPEN, RIGHT? NUMBER TWO YOU SAID 10,000? I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

TWO.

TWO.

AND NUMBER THREE IS OPEN.

OKAY.

CIRCLE BACK.

YEAH.

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YOU OKAY WITH THAT? KIM, CAN YOU, UM, CAN YOU STATE THAT ONE MORE TIME? DO YOU WANNA, SURE.

I'M CLEAR WHAT, UH, THE CONSENSUS APPARENTLY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT 10 FOR THE FIRST REQUEST, REMOVING THE ADMIN 20 FOR THE SECOND REQUEST.

BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON THEM.

WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THAT AT THE END.

SOUNDS GOOD? MM-HMM.

OKAY.

GOOD, GOOD.

THAT'S ME.

YEAH.

I, UM, I, IN DOING LOOKING THE APPLICATION AND PRESENTATION, AND THIS IS A MOST ART IS ALWAYS A MOST WORTHY CAUSE I WOULD SUGGEST, BUT FUNDING FOR 40 GO WITH THAT.

I DON'T SEE ANY, I SEE THAT THIS BRINGS IN, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE ARTS ON HILTON HEAD, BUT IT'S STILL THE WHOLE COUNTY AND IT WILL BRING INCOME.

SO I WOULD SAY SUPPORT.

AND THROUGH THIS $40,000 DISCUSSION, HOW MANY OF THE FOLKS YOU THINK COMING INTO THOSE PLAYS OR STAYING IN HOTELS AND EATING AT RESTAURANTS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA? I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

I DON'T THINK NO ONE IS.

BUT WE, WE, ARE WE LOOKING AT THE AREAS OF LOOKING AT THE FUNDING COMING IN? THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION I HAD THIS MORNING WHEN WE CAME.

SO IF THAT'S THE CASE THERE, THE WHOLE ENTIRE AREA, UM, I'M, I'M SO THE ART CENTER OF COASTAL CAROLINA MM-HMM .

A FEW YEARS AGO WAS GETTING TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FROM THE HILTON HIT.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE BEING FUNDED THESE DAY? NO SIR.

NO SIR.

212,000 THEY SET IN THEIR APPLICATION.

YEAH, THAT'S FROM THE, THAT'S APEX HILTON.

AND IF THEY RECEIVED THAT, I THINK THEY HAVE.

YEAH.

AND MARIE ALSO QUESTIONED THE HEAVY TRAFFIC IS SNOWBIRDS IN SUMMER, BUT THEY HAVE NO DATA FOR PEOPLE STAYING ANYWHERE ELSE.

THE ISLANDS THAT WAS MARIA'S.

SO YOU THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THEM A FULL OH, WELL, WELL I SAID THIS DISCUSSION, THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE ARTS IS IMPORTANT AND THEY DO BRING BIGGER LAND AND ONLY PUT BEDS HERE OR NOT, BUT PEOPLE DO COME AND CHILDREN'S SCHOOL CHILDREN GET OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE ODD WORK IN THIS MARKETING AND MARKETING STRATEG STRATEGY.

SO AS WELL WITH NOW WHAT'S GONNA HAVE, WHAT THEY GONNA DO WITH THE MONIES.

BUT I MY QUESTION RACK CARDS AND, AND BUSHELS.

DAN.

ANITA, YOU GUYS WHAT? LOOK THOUGHTFUL UP THERE.

30 TAKE 10 OFF.

ANITA.

WHAT'S SAY YOU? WELL, UM, I KNOW FROM JUST WORKING WITH SOME OF THE TOUR GROUPS THAT COME TO HILTON HAD A LOT, A LOT OF TIMES THEY BRING THOSE GROUPS OVER TO BEAUFORT.

UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY STAY IN HILTON HEAD, THEY COME OVER TO BEAUFORT AND THEY SPENT A HALF A DAY.

UM, ONE OF THE COMPANIES I USED TO WORK FOR WAS TALK T-A-U-C-K.

AND I KNEW, I KNEW THAT EVERY MONDAY THEY BROUGHT A BUSLOAD, UM, OVER TO BEAUFORT.

SO, UM, THOSE, WE DO GET SOME OF SOME OF THAT OVERFLOW.

UM, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH GIVING THEM, UM, THE 40,000.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

YEAH.

YOU THINK, I'M JUST LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THE NOTES HERE.

I THINK I'D BE MORE INCLINED TO THE 30.

I MEAN, IT'S A BIG AWARD.

IT'S NOT, IT IT, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS, OF THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, TOURISM SPEND IS GONNA BE, UH, IS GONNA BE ON HILTON HEAD, YOU KNOW, OR, OR BLUFFTON.

UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE ANITA'S GOT, YOU KNOW, ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT THEY, PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE DO COME HERE AND THEIR, THEIR NOTES SUGGESTED SOME THAT SOME COME HERE, BUT IT, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE GOOD DATA AROUND THAT.

SO, I MEAN, 30 IS STILL A VERY BIG AWARD.

DID THEY GET, UH, AN AWARD ON THE FIRST QUARTER ROUND OF APPLICATIONS? UH, THERE'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T HAVE THAT.

I DON'T REMEMBER.

I KNOW WE WERE NO ON SYMPHONY.

RIGHT? BUT I DON'T REMEMBER FOR THIS GROUP.

SO THEY MENTIONED IN THEIR APPLICATION THEY HAVE 166,000 PEOPLE LAST YEAR.

29% WERE FARTHER THAN 50 MILES

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MAYBE.

BUT IT'S CLEARLY IN AUTHORIZED AWARD FOR PROMOTING THE ARTS AND CULTURE.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW MUCH THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO, UH, VALUE THE ARTS AND CULTURE IN AWARDING THE GRANTS.

UH, AND WHAT WE, WE GAVE IT LAST TIME.

I, WE DID NOT THAT IN CYCLE ONE.

DID THEY APPLY FOR IT THAT DAY? UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY APPLIED.

I THINK WITH THEM, THEY, UM, MISSED THE APPLICATION WINDOW.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST QUARTER AROUND.

SO THAT'S WHAT ABOUT SPAN PLUS? DID THEY APPLY AND GET ANYTHING AROUND ONE? WE FORGOT TO ASK.

THEY DID.

THEY DID.

THEY DID.

THEY GOT 10 THOU OR 20,000.

FOR WHAT? FOR WHAT? UM, AND WAS THAT THE FULL AWARD? DID THEY GET EVERYTHING THEY ASKED FOR? UM, DOUBLE CHECK THAT.

I THINK.

SO AS OF RIGHT NOW WAS FOR DIGITAL AND SOCIAL MEDIA MARKETING CAMPAIGN.

UM, THEY HAVE ONLY SPEND THE FIRST HALF, BUT THEY GET IT.

HOW MUCH? 20,000.

ISN'T THAT WHAT NUMBER THREE IS? DIGITAL MARKETING CAMPAIGN CARDS? YES.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AT, WELL, GIVEN LAST YEAR WE SHOULD NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

SO, WELL THIS IS ROUND ONE OF, I I KNOW, BUT ROUND RON DID WE NEED TO HAVE THAT LOOK AT SO BETTER IN OUR DECISION MAKING.

SO FOR PURPOSES OF THE CONVERSATION, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE END.

OKAY.

THAT RELATES OUR CENTER OF COASTAL CAROLINA, UM, USED TO, WE GOT A FAIRLY LARGE REQUEST FOR THEM.

I THINK IT'S BEEN METERING DOWN OVER THE YEARS, IN FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T APPLY IN THE FIRST ROUND.

HAS PROBABLY TO DO WITH SOME INTERNAL ISSUES GOING ON.

UH, I'M OKAY WITH GIVING THEM SOMETHING.

I SORT OF WANNA CARVE BACK THEIR REQUEST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OVER TIME THERE'S EVERY REASON WE CAN KIND OF WEAN THEM OUT OF THIS POOL AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO FOCUS PRIMARILY ON MILTON HEAD.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WHATEVER AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE TO DISTRIBUTE IS A FRACTION OF A FRACTION IT HAS TO DISTRIBUTE FOR THAT ORGANIZATION.

AND I'LL ALSO ASK ANY OF YOU HERE, IF YOU HAVE SEEN ANY MARKETING EFFORTS TO TRY TO BRING PEOPLE TO THEIR PERFORMANCES ON THE AISLE? I I GET LOTS OF STUFF AND I JUST DON'T HEAR FROM THEM.

WELL, THE QUESTION IS, ARE THEY ADVERTISING LOCALLY OR EXTERNALLY TO TRY TO DRAW THEM IN? WELL, THEY'RE BOTH OF THOSE AND THEY SHOULD BE DOING, UH, BOTH BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE VISITING ARE ALSO THE PEOPLE THAT CAN STAY AN EXTRA DAY AND GO THROUGH A PERFORMANCE OR SCHEDULE, SCHEDULE A TIME TO COME BACK FOR THAT.

SO WHILE YOU'RE CORRECT, ABOUT 50, UH, MILES AWAY, OUR DMO IS REALLY THE CHARTER PARTY TO BRING 'EM INTO TOWN.

AND THESE OTHER PARTIES ARE ALSO A PART OF KEEPING HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'M JUST MAKING THE POINT AS FAR AS MAYBE THE COMMITTEE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM TO PROMOTE BOTH WAYS AND THEN TELL YOU HOW THEY'RE DOING THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO SEE, WE COME BACK TO THIS ONE AT THE END AND NO, I I WOULD AGREE WITH THE 8,000.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

INSTEAD OF COMING BACK, COME BACK, IT SAYS THEY MARKET WORLDWIDE.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID IT DID PROVIDE A HEAT MAP IN THERE.

YEAH.

UM, YEAH.

APPLICATION.

YEAH, THEY DID.

AND IT WAS, EXCUSE ME, IT COULD 3000.

WELL, THE, THE ENCOURAGING TO GO BOTH WAYS.

UH, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR SOME TIME WE NEED TO HELP MAKE THE EVENTS SUCCESSFUL, NOT ONLY TO GET HEADS AND BEDS, BUT TO LOCALLY.

THE LOCAL PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT IF THEY KNEW.

SO IF THEY START ADVERTISING LOCALLY, THAT WOULD HELP ENCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM THIS SIDE GOING OVER ON AS WELL.

IS THAT ROLE OF THE ATEX COMMITTEE TO DO THAT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE JUST MENTIONED.

THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE.

I THINK WE CAN.

OKAY.

WELL, SO WE'LL DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE END.

YOU'LL COME BACK, COME BACK, COME BACK TO THAT ONE TOO.

ALL THE ONES WE SAID NOT WHAT WE SAID WAS IF WE'RE RECOMMENDING ANY FUNDING, WE'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL THE END TALK ABOUT IT.

JUST IF WE'RE SAYING NO VOLUME.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

I'M NOT TRYING TO CONTROL IT.

WE, UH, WE SAID WE GONNA, WE ARE NOT GONNA DO ANY ALLOCATION NOW.

BE ABLE COME BACK AT THE END AND DO THE ALLOCATION ONCE WE HAVE DISCUSSION.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE SAID.

THAT'S WHAT WE SAID ON, ON, ON.

UM, I THOUGHT WE WERE, WE WERE OKAY TO VOTE IF THERE, WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS AND IF NOT WE CAN, WE CAN DOUBLE BACK FOR CONTINUED DISCUSSION.

I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I WAS HEARING A FAIR AMOUNT OF CONSENSUS THERE ON 30 FOR THIS ONE AND MAYBE I WASN'T.

ALRIGHT, SO KEN, DO YOU WANNA DO THEM ONE AT A 10 AS WE GET TO THEM OR DO YOU WANT DO THE DISCUSSION AT THE END WHERE WE OBJECT? I, UH, I THINK WE TRY TO GO ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO AS WE GO.

, I'M SORRY.

I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

THERE, THERE

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WERE PAPERS FALLING.

WHAT? COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I SEE WE TRY TO GO ONE AT A TIME.

IF, IF THERE'S, IF, IF WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S CONSENSUS.

I I THOUGHT WE, WE MOTIONED ON THE AIRPORT RIGHT? AND MADE A DECISION ON THE AIRPORT ON NUMBER ONE.

YEAH.

THE, THE MOTION THAT DICK MADE WAS TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHICH ONES YOU'RE GONNA CUT OUT AND THEN FUND TO MAKE IT EASIER AND THEN COME BACK AND CIRCLE.

THAT WAS HIS MOTION.

I GOT YOU.

I MISUNDERSTOOD.

I'M HAPPY TO CHANGE THAT IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE GROUP.

I'M NOT TRYING TO CONTROL IT.

NO, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE IF THAT.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I JUST MISUNDERSTOOD.

SO LET'S, LET'S, UH, LET'S KEEP GOING AND WE'LL COME BACK.

SO WE'RE ONLY, IT'S ALL, IF IT'S A HARD NO, THEN WE WILL MAKE, THEN WE MAKE THAT DECISION GOING FOR CLARITY.

WE CAN GO THROUGH EVERY LAST ONE AND COME BACK AND MAKE THE ALLOCATION.

GOT IT.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YOUR INITIAL DETERMINATION TO DETERMINE FUND OR NOT FUND IF YOU WANT.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO FUND 'EM, THEN YOU'LL COME BACK AND DISCUSS WHAT THE FUND.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

AND SO FIVE, SO WE'RE OFF TO THE AREA HOSPITALITY ASSOCIATION.

MM-HMM .

YES.

STEVEN.

YEAH, THAT'S ONE THAT I DID.

UM, IT SEEMS THAT NUMBER ONE IS A FAIRLY NEW VERY ACTIVITY THAT THEY'RE ASKING TO HELP.

PARDON ME? WE FUNDED IN THE PAST.

MM-HMM .

I THINK THIS IS THEIR SECOND TIME DOING IT.

MM-HMM .

WHAT ARE THEY USING? THE MONEY? UM, THE NEW YEAR'S EVE FIREWORK CELEBRATION.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

WHICH IS LOWER DEMAND TIMEFRAME.

RIGHT.

NEED, NEED, NEED MORE VISITORS.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER ACTIVITY KIND OF HELPED TO INFLUENCE THIS, BUT I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T, EVEN THOUGH IT'S KIND NEW.

THE NUMBERS THAT THEY GAVE US WERE PERCENTAGE WISE OF WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT NUMBERS, WHERE THE NUMBERS CAME FROM.

KINDA HARD TO LOOK AT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE THEY'RE BRINGING.

BUT IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH, YOU SEE A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING INTO BEAUFORT FROM NEW YEAR'S EVE? I SEE PEOPLE THAT ARE STAYING HERE FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE, WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE OF THE FIREWORKS OR NOT.

I DUNNO.

BUT, UH, I DO KNOW THAT, DUNNO IF THEY'RE COMING FOR THAT REASON OR IF THEY'RE ALREADY HERE, BUT MM-HMM .

WE CAN ASK HIM.

BUT IF PEOPLE COULD HELP WITH THE FIREWORKS FROM STAYING IN HOTELS, DUNNO, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE DO GO AHEAD AND I AGREE.

OKAY.

WANNA PUT THAT ON THE LIST TO TALK ABOUT AT THE END.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS DEFENDANT, ANITA? DID SHE WEAR I'M GOOD.

OKAY, SO IT'S 20,000.

20,000.

MM-HMM.

AND NOW THAT BRINGS US TO THE SAND FOUNDATION AND MY WIFE IS ONLY FORWARD, SO I'LL PARTICIPATE IN THIS CONVERSATION.

UM, THAT'S MINE AS WELL.

BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.

IF THAT I I I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SAFE NOW RATHER THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AAX IS CHARGED BUT ONLY FROM APAX IS CHARGED WITH, UH, FACILITIES.

UM, THAT'S WHERE MY QUESTION COMES.

ONE OF THE CATEGORIES IS CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF FACILITIES FOR CIVIC AND CULTURAL ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE OF ACCESS AND OTHER NEARBY ROADS AND UTILITIES FOR THE FACILITIES.

AND I WOULD SAY YES.

YES.

AND WE GAVE THEM SOMETHING IN OCTOBER, 2024.

YES.

BUT IT WAS NOT FOR THOSE MARKETING.

IT WAS UH, 37,000.

WHAT WAS THE, WHAT'S THE ORGANIZATION? WHAT UM, YEAH, TOURISM MARKETING CAMPAIGN.

THEY GOT 37,000 STORE.

SO YOU FIRST HAVE DETERMINED, IS IT A CIVIC OR CULTURAL ACTIVITY? YES.

MM-HMM .

WELL WE, WE GAVE THEM MONEY BUT NOT ONLY FOR MARKETING WASN'T THERE OUTSIDE BENCHES AND SOME OTHER STUFF IN THERE.

SOME OTHER STUFF.

OKAY.

BUT, BUT YEAH, I'M DEFINITELY IN AGREEMENT FOR THE RENOVATIONS.

'CAUSE WE DO NOT WANT WHAT HAPPENED IN SALO ISLAND TO FALL.

YEAH.

IT HAPPENED AT AT, AT OUR MARITIME CENTER.

WE CAN PREVENT IT.

AND ON THE GUIDELINE THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO USE A FUNDS FOR ITS DOCTORS HANDS

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REPLACING RAILS AND A ROOF.

AT THE DOCK.

AT THE DOCK.

'CAUSE THEY DO BOAT TOURS.

YEAH.

IF IT'S AT THE DOCK, THEN YES.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT IT SAID.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WROTE.

MM-HMM .

IF YOU GET FUNDING BEFORE YES.

HOW MUCH? UH, 37,000 IN CYCLE ONE FOR MARKETING AND THEN IN CYCLE OF THE 20 23, 20 24, THEY RECEIVED UM, $20,000 FOR THEIR GREENHOUSE EXHIBIT AND THEY HAVE SPENT THAT WITH AND PROVIDED, DO YOU KNOW WHAT COULD BE GOOD FOR THE FUTURE IS IF WE TRACK THE ONES THAT APPLY ALL THE TIME AND SEE WHAT WE'RE GIVING.

I KNOW THAT'S WHERE WORK, BUT THIS IS THE BENEFIT OF ONE OF THOSE REVIEWS WHERE YOU LOOK AT ONES.

YES.

WE COULD EASILY TRACK MARIE GETS IN EVERY ROUND.

RIGHT.

I CAN DEFINITELY SHARE MY REPORT WITH YOU'ALL.

ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S GONNA BE MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF, UH, GRANT REGISTER.

RIGHT? YES.

I THINK WE SHOULD STICK TO ONE .

I AGREE.

THIS HAS BEEN SO AHEAD.

THIS NONPROFIT AT THE END.

THIS IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, RIGHT? THE FOUNDATION? YES.

THE DEMO MOTION WAS TO EITHER AWARD OR NOT AWARD AND DISCUSS THE AMOUNT TO AWARD AT THE END.

COME BACK THERE THE SECOND TIME.

SO WE'RE NOT BUILDING, WE DID BEAUFORT MUSEUM BE HISTORY MUSEUM NOW.

OH SORRY.

THE HISTORY MUSEUM.

YEAH.

WAS UM, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT REPAIRS AS WELL.

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING THAT STAIRCASE AND THEN $60,000 FOR A MARKETING CAMPAIGN TO BE RUN BY A FIRM AMOUNT OF GREENFIELD.

YEP.

AND I ASKED HIM IF HE HAD TALKED TO ROB OVER THE CBB ABOUT DOING THAT MARKETING FOR HIM.

HE INDICATED THAT UH, HE WOULD AND HE DID THAT THE NEXT DAY.

I KNOW THE CBB IS HAPPY TO HELP THEM.

UH, BUT I DON'T SEE A REASON TO PAY $60,000 TO A GREEN TERM GREEN.

THE QUESTION, UH, I TOLD IS SORT OF HOW MUCH MARKETING AND ACTIVITY FOR THE HISTORY MUSEUM IS APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE QUALITY OF THE, UH, EXPERIENCE AND ALL OF THEIR TICKETS ARE SOLD BY THE CBB.

'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO PASS THROUGH THE CBB TO GET IN THERE.

MM-HMM .

I'LL ALSO TELL YOU NOW, AS YOU KNOW, I'M COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CB BOARD.

THE, UH, CBB OCCUPIES THE ARSENAL AND AS PART OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND LEASED SPACE IN THE ARSENAL TO THE GULLAH GEECHEE COALITION FOR $1,500 A MONTH, THEY HAVE UNDER NEW LEADERSHIP, UH, SURRENDERED THAT SPACE.

THEY'RE GONNA HAVE OFFICES IN A NUMBER OF PLACES BUT NOT THERE.

AND THE HISTORY MUSEUM HAS COME IN AND PROPOSED TO PAY $200 A MONTH FOR THE SAME SPACE.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CBB AND THE CITY.

BUT, UH, THE FACT THAT HE'S SITTING RIGHT THERE AND IS PART OF THE CB FAMILY OF ACTIVITY AND DOING THINGS AND HADN'T ASKED ROB TO HELP HIM WITH MARKETING MAKES ME A LITTLE CONCERNED.

SO MM-HMM .

MY PERSONAL THING IS I THINK THEY NEED TO DO SOME MARKETING.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LESS LESS AND WE'LL MAKE IT ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE, BUT THAT CBB MANAGING THAT MARKETING REPORT US FOR THAT.

I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

I, I, UM, AND THE RENOVATIONS, WHATEVER RENOVATIONS IS WHAT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT.

UM, WELL WHAT HE WANTED TO DO IS IMPROVE THE BACK STAIRCASE.

THE BACK STAIRCASE ONLY GOES TO THAT OFFICE, BUT HE IS PROPOSING TO RENT FOR PRACTICALLY NOTHING.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE SENSES OF ENTITLEMENT AND IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO FIX THAT FOR THEM.

THEY'RE GONNA RENT SPACE TO DO STUFF.

THEY GOT VOLUNTEERS, THE CITY OFF OUR WORK TO HELP THEM FUND THEIR ACTIVITIES.

THE CITY'S GOT AT TAX DOLLARS.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE DEALING WITH THAT.

THEIR CASE.

I, I THINK THEY NEED TO FIX THEIR, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED WITH THEM.

I'VE BEEN THERE THREE TIMES IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THE EXHIBITS HAVE NEVER CHANGED.

ONE TIME THE DOCENT DIDN'T SHOW UP THAT DAY, SO THEY OPENED IT SO WE COULD GO THROUGH AND THE OTHER TIME THE DOCENT WAS READING THE BOOK AND DIDN'T, UH, RAISE HIS HEAD SPEAK TO ANYBODY.

SO IT IS, UH, THERE'S A LITTLE WORK TO BE DONE THERE.

A LOT OF WORK.

YEAH.

DID THEY APPLY LESS ROOM? YES.

THEY THOUGHT, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO, I'M SORRY.

FOR CYCLE ONE, THEY RECEIVED $750 FOR SOCIAL MEDIA FUNDING FOR BEAUFORT HISTORY MUSEUM, REVOLUTIONARY WAR DAY.

AND THEN IN THE LAST YEAR'S CYCLE THEY RECEIVED $404,200 FOR PROMOTING NEW BEAUFORT HISTORY MUSEUM.

BUT BOTH OF THOSE SIT WITH THE WAY THAT WE AWARDED THESE FUNDS.

WE ONLY AWARD HALF AND THEN THEY PROVED TO US THAT THEY CAN, THEY USED IT THE CORRECTLY.

THEY HAVEN'T REQUESTED THE SECOND HALF .

SO THEY'VE DOCUMENTED

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THE PROPER EXPEND FOR THE FIRST HALF EITHER THEN.

NO, NO.

SO THERE'S THAT AND THAT'S SORT OF CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

SO I DUNNO IF THEY FORGOT THAT THEY HAVE IT OR, BECAUSE I DON'T SEND REMINDERS ABOUT THAT.

SO WE MAY NEED TO CONSIDER SENDING REMINDERS IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT THE INVOICES DOCUMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE DUTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROPERLY EXPENDED.

WELL, I'D BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT IN THE VERBAL ASPECT OF IT.

I'M, I'M WILLING TO GIVE THE GUYS LIKE 10,000, 15,000 FOR RIGHT.

ABSOLUTE MARKETING CAMPAIGN ABSOLUTELY.

RUNS BY THE CVD.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

I LIKE THAT.

EVEN THOUGH THEY, THAT THEY SPENT THE LAST MARKING IN .

YEAH.

AND IN MY, MY SCENARIO, WHAT'S HAPPENED THERE I THINK IS THEY HAD A FRUIT BASKET TURNOVER AT THE BOARD.

SO THEY JUST PROBABLY HAVEN'T DONE THEIR PAPERWORK.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH IT.

JUST LIKE THIS OTHER STUFF.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE JUST JUSTIFY THE TURK AND UH, YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE REWARDING THEM FOR THEIR MISMANAGEMENT.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO CHALLENGE THEM TO MANAGE THEMSELVES DOWN.

OKAY.

BUT WE HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY CHECKS FOR THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS BECAUSE THEY HAD DONE EITHER RIGHT? CORRECT.

WELL, THEY GOT HALF THE MONEY, SO IT'S GOTTEN ALRIGHT, WELL I SUGGEST WE PUT IN THE VERBIAGE HERE THAT WE DON'T YOU PROVIDE THIS MONEY UNLESS THEY PROVIDE PROOF OF WHERE THEY SPENT THOSE THAT LAST UNTIL THEY'VE SHOWN THAT THEY SPENT THE LAST YES.

AND DOCUMENTED IT.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL COME BACK FOR THE AMOUNT.

I THINK THAT'S, WE SAID WHOLE TIME.

YEAH.

SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON THAT.

ANYTHING YOU JUST TALK, WE'LL COME BACK AND MAKE AWARDS MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL IN THE FUTURE, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS APPLIED IN THE, UH, PAST AND HAS NOT FULFILLED THEIR OBLIGATIONS WITH DOCUMENTS AND STUFF, IT'D BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT ONE, THAT PERCENTAGE MM-HMM .

IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

OKAY.

SO NOW WE'RE AT THE HISTORIC MISSION PROGRAM.

UM, THEIR JUNETEENTH AND THEIR CHRISTMAS CELEBRATIONS IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION GOING PRETTY RAPIDLY.

I THINK THE TOWN SPENT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 10 MILLION ABOUT A PROPERTY.

THEY RECEIVED A FEW MILLION DOLLARS IN INVESTMENT TO BUILD BUILDINGS.

EXCUSE ME.

THE TOWN LITERALLY ENDED UP SPENDING MAYBE 2 MILLION.

'CAUSE GREEN SPACE COVERED GREEN SPACE.

GREEN SPACE.

THE PENNY TAX.

MM-HMM .

I THINK WE KICKED IN 11 MILLION.

HUH? YEAH, IT WAS A $12 MILLION PURCHASE AND WE PAID 11 OR SOMETHING.

WE TALKING ABOUT ? YEAH.

YEAH.

WE WE COVERED THE COST OF THAT MM-HMM .

AND THEY OWN, I THINK WE COVERED THE FULL COST OF THAT.

UM, WE WERE AT THAT A MILLION SHORT.

WE DID THREE APPRAISALS.

REMEMBER THAT NONSENSE.

YEAH.

THEY CAME BACK AND GOT THE DIFFERENCE.

WHATEVER.

SO HILTON HEAD OWNS IT.

RIGHT? WELL, I, I'M INTRIGUED BY THE IDEA THAT RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND PRODUCE SOMETHING.

IT'S GONNA BE AN ACTIVE PARK.

NO, THIS IS GREEN SPACE.

THE PENNY TAX.

WELL, IT'S OVER NOW, BUT THERE'S A MILLION, A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT THAT PURCHASE OVER.

BUT GREEN SPACE IS STILL GOING.

WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED MILLION MILLION DOLLARS BY PROPERTY CONSERVED WITHIN THE COUNTY.

WELL, MY SCENARIO THIS IS THAT THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AND THE CHRISTMAS LIKE CELEBRATION WAS NICE, BUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE THOSE ARE FUN GENERATORS AS OPPOSED TO EXPENSES.

BUT I'M, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU JUMP TO MITCHELLVILLE.

WHAT'D YOU DO WITH NUMBER EIGHT? GO TRAVELING THEATER? NO, MITCHELL.

I VILLE.

YEAH, BUT WHAT'D YOU DO WITH, OH, IT'S BECAUSE THEY PRESENTED BEFORE WE JUMPED OUT ORDER WHENEVER WE DID PRESENTATION.

YEAH, YOU'RE CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE THESE FOLKS, BUT I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE THEY THINK FOCUSING IN EVENTS IS THE ONLY THING WE'RE INTERESTED IN HERE.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A TEENTH THAT I'M HAPPY TO HAVE CHRISTMAS FLIGHTS, BUT I'M NOT SO EXCITED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S REQUIRED TO AFFORD.

SO THEY ASKED FOR 190,000 FROM THE HILTON DEBT.

I BELIEVE THEY GOT IT.

YEAH.

WEREN'T THEY IN, UH, LAST YEAR'S ROUND? LAST YEAR'S, NOT LAST YEAR.

WOULD THEY GIVE THEM LAST YEAR? UM, 35,000 AND I WANNA SAY LAST WEEK THEY JUST SUBMITTED THEIR, UM, FINAL REPORT FOR THAT.

WHAT WAS THE 35,000 FOR THESE SAME TWO EVENTS, MARKETING SITE PREPARATION AND DESIGN FOR JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION.

HAVE THEY USED THE REST OF THE MONEY ALREADY? YES.

OKAY.

AND IT IS GROWING.

WANNA DISCUSS IT AT THE END? YEAH.

IT IS GROWING MM-HMM .

YES.

YES.

AND THAT'LL RESOLVE TRAVEL.

SORRY.

OKAY.

NOW, YEAH, THE GOAL, GOAL OF TRAVELING THEATER, I RECUSED MYSELF.

.

OKAY.

UH, YEAH, THIS WAS THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE, THE, UH, IN CONGEN, I MEAN IN CONJUNCTION COORDINATION WITH THE LARGER REVOLUTIONARY CELEBRATION.

RIGHT.

UM, THEY, THEY APPEAR TO BE WELL COORDINATED THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE UNIQUE PLAY.

AND,

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UM, AND THIS WOULD BE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST TIME THEY WOULD BE DOING THIS RIGHT.

WITH THIS PARTICULAR PLAY.

RIGHT.

AND THERE WAS GETTING, AND THERE MUL AND AS YOU RECALL, THERE'S MULTIPLE PRESENTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, UH, THAT WOULD BE OCCURRING HERE.

SO THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD FUND THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT ASPECTS OF THAT PLAY TOO, UH, OCCUR.

WHICH I MEAN, TO ME SEEMED, SEEMED LIKE A GREAT, LIKE A GREAT ENDEAVOR THAT, THAT PEOPLE WILL BE INTERESTED IN.

IT'S A, IT'S A SPECIAL ANGLE AND PART OF THE STORY OF THE REVOLUTIONARY EXPERIENCE.

AND THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, I'M GUESSING A LOT OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT, ABOUT THE OVERALL REVOLUTIONARY EXPERIENCE.

AND THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WOULD BE A PARTICULAR INTEREST.

SO, UM, I I'M IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING, SUPPORTING THIS ENDEAVOR.

LET'S DISCUSS IT IN THE END.

SO WE'LL DISCUSS IT MORE NOW.

OH, WELL, I, I HAVE THAT IN THE LAST ROUND IN OCTOBER, SOME ONE OF YOU GUYS SAID THAT THEY DON'T PRESENT A BUDGET.

THEY ARE, THEY WERE TO RETURN LEFTOVER DOLLARS.

DID THEY DO THAT? THEY HAD TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO, DID THEY DO IT? OKAY.

AND THEY HAVE TO DO A FULL P AND L FROM DECLARATION DAY EVENT.

REMEMBER JONATHAN TALKED ABOUT THIS? THEY DON'T PRESENT THAT.

WHAT? IT WAS A LONGSTANDING PROBLEM JOHN HAD.

I THOUGHT SHE SAID IT WAS FORTHCOMING.

DID SHE EVER SUBMIT THAT POINT? SHE SAID IT WAS FORTHCOMING.

I THINK JUST THIS SPECIFIC EVENT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THEM AS A WHOLE, BUT WE ARE NOT GONNA GO BACK IF YOU DON'T COUNTRY ON THIS ONE.

THEY ASKING FOR NOW, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT AT THE END OF THE SESSION.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, I, I WOULD THE FUNDING BE DISCUSSING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

NEED MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YOU KEEPING TRACK OF WHO'S ACCUSED THEMSELVES, OF WHICH DISCUSSION AND THEY FILL THE TOPIC OF DEMENTIA FORM.

IT'S NOTIFIED THOUGH THEY'RE ON THE RIGHT.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

IT, SO I DIDN'T KNOW.

SO WE'RE NOW AT THE HILTON HEAD SYMPHONY.

THAT'S ME.

YEAH.

AND 15 MINUTES BREAK OUTTA THE , THAT'S NAME.

YES.

WE, WE DENIED THIS THE FIRST ROUND, RIGHT? WE DID.

I BELIEVE SO.

THEY WERE UPSET.

DID WE GIVE A REASON FOR DENIAL? JUST DENIED IT BASED ON THEY'RE NICE FOLKS AND WE LIKE 'EM.

IT'S A GREAT THING.

BUT WE DIDN'T THINK IT BROUGHT ANY PEOPLE OR KEPT ANY PEOPLE IN THE AIR.

RIGHT.

WE ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS PRIMARILY BUILT.

NOW THIS TIME THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING PROMOTIONS IN THE PARK.

THEY FREE, THEY'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT PROMOTIONS AT BLUFFTON, WHICH, UH, IS NOT IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

I, I PERSONALLY THINK THEY SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO PERFORM IN VARIOUS VENUES AROUND THE COUNTY.

EXCUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE.

UM, SHOULD WE DIE COMPLETELY OR GIVE THEM A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT? 10.

WELL, THEY ASK FOR MATERIALS IN HOTELS.

THE MARRIOTT DROVES, MOST OF THEIR TOURISTS, THEY BOOK ROOMS FOR THEIR ARTISTS AND JUDGES AND MUSICIANS AT THE MARRIOTT.

THEY WANT SCREENS AT THE AIRPORT.

THEY WILL DO OUTDOOR CONCERTS AT CELEBRATION PARK ON THE ISLAND AND IN BLUFFTON DURING THE SEAFOOD FESTIVAL, THEY NEED AN AUDIENCE OF 1200 TO 1400 TO BREAK EVEN FOR PERFORMANCE.

THEY WON'T BE BOOKING PEOPLE INTO THE MARRIOTT ANYMORE.

MARRIOTT THAT SOLD TO THE HILTON.

OH WOW.

WELL THAT'S WHERE THEY BOOK THEIR PEOPLE.

YEAH.

SO THE, ALL OF THIS STUFF COMBINED THEM, THE NEW MUT, EXCEPT HAVING THEM PERFORM IN AMERICAN COUNTY DOES HAVE SOME BENEFIT, I THINK.

AND THE ISSUE OF 1200 IS IF THEY'RE HAVING PAID TICKETS, THAT'S WHERE THEY THINK THEY, BUT THERE'S BEEN A VENUE FOR MANY OF THOSE SPACES WHERE YOU CAN DO THAT SORT INSIDE VENUES.

WATERFRONT PARK CAN, WELL IT'S INSIDE VENUE YOU CAN DO OUTSIDE, BUT THEY DON'T NORMALLY CHARGE TICKETS FOR THE OUTSIDE ONE, WHICH YOU COULD DO IT IN WATERFRONT PARK.

YOU CAN DO IT IN A NUMBER OF PLACES.

WELL, THE OUTDOOR CONCERTS ARE AT CELEBRATION PARK AND BL AND BLUFFTON, THE SEAFOOD FESTIVAL OUTSIDE RIGHT.

MEAN THE NOTHING STOPPING HIM FROM COMING TO WATERFRONT PARK IS THE SAME.

YEAH.

I'M NOT DEBATING THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING 12 HUNDREDS A BREAKEVEN MEDICINE.

THEY SHOW TICKETS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THEY OH, THEY ARE SOME TICKETS YOU SAID? YEAH.

TO THE OUTSIDE EVENTS.

UM, BUT I RECALL THE OUTSIDE EVENTS BEING COMPLIMENTARY.

YEAH.

THAT THAT WAS GREAT REQUIREMENTS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW, I MEAN THAT PRODUCTION COST, RIGHT.

I MEAN THE, TO ME, WHAT I RECALL FROM THE LAST TIME WE

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TALKED ABOUT THIS AND IT, IT'S A CRITERIA THAT APPLIES KIND OF TO ALL OF THEM IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PROBABILITY OF, OF THIS GENERATING ADDITIONAL ANY TAX REVENUE FOR, UH, FOR DUSKY OR THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY? AND WE DIDN'T THINK THIS ONE WOULD, IT WOULD SURE BE NICE IF THEY WOULD PROPOSE TO, YOU KNOW, DO AN ADDITIONAL INCREMENTAL EVENT OR, OR MOVE ONE OF THEIR EVENTS TO, TO WATERFRONT PARK OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT AND HOW MUCH MONEY THEY WOULD NEED TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, PULL THAT OFF.

RIGHT.

IF IT WAS GONNA BE FREE.

YEAH.

UH, BECAUSE THAT WOULD SEEM LIKE THAT WOULD BE AN EXCITING THING TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR CBB AND BAJA TO PROMOTE AND RUN AND THAT COULD, THAT COULD BE A BIG WINNER.

UM, A BIG WIN-WIN.

IT SEEM LIKE WE'D WANNA, WE'D WANNA ENCOURAGE THEM TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND RESUBMIT WITH A PROJECT LIKE THAT.

WELL, I THINK WE COULD ALLOCATE FUNDING CONDITIONED UPON THEM USING IT FOR OUTDOOR CONCERT SERIES OR, UH, NOT JUST WHERE THEY'RE DOING IT NOW, BUT IN ADDITIONAL PARTS OF THE COUNTY.

LET THEM COME BACK TO US AND TELL US WHERE IF THEY DON'T DO IT, WE DON'T FUND IT.

MM-HMM .

THEY DO IT, REDUCE THE REVENUE, THEN THEY GET THE MONEY, THEN THAT WOULD GIVE THEM RECOMMENDATION IN ORDER TO GET THE MONEY ON.

WE DO THAT.

RIGHT.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS MONEY THAT YOU'RE OBLIGATING RIGHT NOW IS HALFWAY THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR OF THE TWO YEAR COMMITMENT TO YEAR SEVEN.

AND TO MAKE IT CONDITIONAL, YOU MAY HAVE DIFFICULTY SPENDING IT, UH, DOWN THE ROAD.

DON'T, YOU COULD ALSO JUST TELL THEM, YOU CAN APPLY NEXT ROUND IN NOVEMBER AND PLAN FOR SOMETHING IN BUFORD.

RIGHT.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE GIVING 'EM CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK INSTEAD OF SAYING, WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU AND DO IT.

MM-HMM .

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THEY CAN DO IT BECAUSE I A YEAR AND A HALF, EITHER NORTH ABROAD OR SOUTH ABROAD.

BUT THAT WILL ATTRACT THE TOURISTS FROM THE RURAL PART OF THE COUNTY NOT TO THE, YEAH.

YES.

SO, UH, SO I'M CLEAR, CAN, CAN AWARDS BE, UM, PROVIDED CONDITIONAL AROUND SOMETHING LIKE IT WOULD, WE WOULD, WE WOULD PROVIDE THIS SHOULD YOU AT AN EVENT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WELL BEING THAT THEY HAVE TO CITE THE YEARS AND HALF THE YEARS GOING ALREADY.

THAT'S, IT'S BASED, BASED ON NEXT YEAR, NOT THIS YEAR.

WOULD IT BE, BECAUSE I FOUND IF WE DO THIS, IF WE PROVIDE SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY AND NOT CONDITION IT UPON THEM DOING SOMETHING ELSE OR THE COUNTY, BUT ENCOURAGING TO DO MORE, UH, EVENTS AROUND THE COUNTY TO CALL PEOPLE TO STAY LATER AND DO THINGS WITHOUT TELLING THEM WHERE THAT NEEDS TO BE.

BECAUSE IF THE FUSSY WANTS TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE FUSSY TO DO SOMETHING, UH, IF THERE'S SOME OTHER EVENT OR ACTIVITY, IF, UH, WE PUT A BANDSTAND IN BURWELL PARK AND THEN WE'LL DO SOMETHING OUT THERE UNDER THE AIRPLANES, THAT'S A DECISION FOR THEM TODAY.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AS FAR AS YOU GIVE THEM SOMETHING NOW, BUT TELL 'EM, HEY, YOU CAN GET A BIGGER GRANT.

ARGUE THIS IN THE FUTURE.

THEY MAY WANT COME OUT AND FOR FILE, DO SOME EVENT OUT THERE AGAIN.

SURE.

YEAH.

WE'D LOVE THAT COURSE.

WE CAN REGO THE TRIP ISLAND PEOPLE.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THEY DON'T ANYTHING.

SO WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AT THE END.

SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY NOT TO REQUIRE THEM TO DO OTHER EVENTS AROUND THE COUNTY, BUT TO ENCOURAGE THEM.

AND, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO WORK WITH US.

ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE THEY WOULD DESCRIBE IT QUITE LIKE THAT.

.

WELL LOVE THAT IDEA.

THEIR, THEIR SERIES IS SET FOR THIS YEAR.

SO YOU'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE IT NEXT YEAR FOR SURE.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TWO YEAR WINDOW.

YES.

WELL YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY APPLIED FOR AND THEY USE IT FOR WHAT THEY APPLIED FOR.

SO WHAT ARE THE APPLICATIONS FOR? IS WHAT YOU'RE GIVING THE GRANT? WELL THEY DIDN'T APPLY FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF NO, THEY APPLIED FOR BLUFFTON AND SHELTER CODE.

OKAY.

SO THEN THAT'S WHAT THE FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR.

UH, YOU'RE APPROVING THAT GRANT.

WHAT DICK WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS GIVING THEM THE IDEA AS FAR AS APPLY AGAIN IN THE FUTURE WITH OTHER EVENTS AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A LARGER GRANT.

INCLUDE THAT IN THE DIALOGUE.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT I SAID, BUT OBVIOUSLY ENJOYED GIVING THEM NOTHING AND THEN SAYING YOU CAN APPLY NEXT ROUND IF YOU BRING IT AROUND THE COMBI.

YOU'RE NOT THIS, THEY'RE CLEAR WHAT THEIR, UH, PERFORMANCES ARE SET, BUT YOU DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA RECOMMEND.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU, BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME THEY HAVE TO SPEND IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE GRANT IS FOR WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WE GONNA DISCUSS THAT ONE AT THE END.

MM-HMM .

YES.

THAT'S OKAY.

CAROL, WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? USCB.

THIS IS KIND AFTER THE FACT.

FINALLY, BECAUSE I THINK THE EVENT WAS IN FEBRUARY, MARCH.

MARCH.

OH, THIS IS THE ONE.

UM, I SAY NO REASON.

WELL, IF THEY CAME TO YOU AHEAD OF TIME, WOULD YOU FUND IT AT

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IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE? MIGHT HAVE FUND THE MEDIA CAMPAIGN.

YEAH.

DID THEY BRING UP TO SAY HOW MUCH WAS ACTUALLY FOR ME GET 10,005.

THEY GOT 15,000 DOLEY FOUNDATION, 21, 179 SOUTH CAROLINA ARTS COMMISSION.

SO THIS ONE WAS IN MARCH.

THEY DO A GOOD JOB ON THE MONEY THAT THEY GET, WHETHER WE'RE A PART OF THAT MIX OR THESE OTHER FOLKS ARE PART OF THE MIX MM-HMM .

THEY'RE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL.

DONNEL LEE AND THE ARTS COMMISSION.

YEAH.

THEY NEED TO SEE SOME LOCAL SUPPORT.

NOW THEY APPLY FOR SOMETHING IN THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, I THINK THAT THEY KNOW GET, THEY'RE GONNA GET IT.

HERE'S MY CONCERN.

MY CONCERN, UH, IS THAT IT'S AFTER THE FACT AS HE POINTED OUT.

AND IS TURF GOING TO ALLOW SOMETHING AFTER THE FACT WHEN THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE NOW ADVERTISING, GROWING TOURISM TO COME HERE, THEY'VE ALREADY EXPEND THESE FUNDS.

AND IF TUR DISAGREES WITH US, THEN IT'S THE COUNTY PAYING FOR IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND MAKE IT UP.

MM-HMM .

THEY DIDN'T APPLY IN ROUND ONE, RIGHT? NO.

SO, WELL SAYING YOU ALREADY HAVE IT.

YOU ALREADY ALREADY SPENT THIS MONEY FOR IT.

SO IS IT GONNA BE USED FOR REIMBURSEMENT IF YOU CAN'T DO SO? WELL THEY CLEARLY HAD THE MONEY 'CAUSE THEY PAID FOR IT.

SO NOW WHY ARE THEY ASKING FOR A GRANT TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD THE MONEY FOR? THEY'RE NOT, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT TURK'S GONNA ASK.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'LL RULE.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE CONCERN.

AND IF WE LOSE THAT ARGUMENT, THEN THE GENERAL FUND IS GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

SO THE TAXPAYERS, SO THAT'S UNFOR WHAT MR. GREEN SAID.

IT WAS ALREADY DONE AFTER THE FACT.

UM, PEPSI.

SO, UH, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD ASK HER, MAKE A CONDITION ABOUT HER TELLING US WE CAN DO REIMBURSEMENT.

WE CAN JUST ASK THEM THAT WORK.

WE CAN TRY, WE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

REIMBURSEMENT.

I ALSO DON'T WANNA OPEN THE DOOR, BUT THIS IS STANDARD.

CAN'T DO IT FOR ONE AND NOT THE NEXT AND THE NEXT AND THE NEXT.

WELL THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THE REIMBURSAL THING IS, IN RECENT YEARS, THE COUNTY CYCLE HAS MOVED.

AN ORGANIZATION HAD COMMITTED FUNDS AND THEY HAD TO CANCEL ROOMS, CANCEL EVENTS, CANCEL PERFORMANCES AND OTHER STUFF.

OR THEY HAD TO FIND WAYS TO FUND THOSE AND THEN HOPE THE COUNTY CYCLE WOULD CATCH UP AND REIMBURSE THEM FOR THINGS THAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAD DONE.

THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE COMING UP HERE WHERE THEY BORROWED IT OUT THEIR CAPITAL FUNDS THAT DID IT.

MM-HMM .

SO I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE NEXT YEAR SAY SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THE COUNTY DECIDES WE'RE GONNA BE 90 DAYS LATER THAN USUAL AND PEOPLE START SAYING, ALRIGHT, I NEED TO BE PLANNING TWO YEARS OUT.

'CAUSE I CAN'T COUNT ON THESE FOLKS IN CURRENT.

WELL, THEY COULD HAVE APPLIED IN OCTOBER.

OH YEAH.

I'M, I'M NOT SUGGESTING YEAH, THAT'S NCE.

I I COULD MAKE A GOOD ARGUMENT AS FAR AS IF IT'S 'CAUSE OF THE COUNTY'S ACTIONS THAT THEY COULDN'T GET THE FUNDING AND THE GRANT AT THE TIME AS OPPOSED TO THEY JUST DIDN'T EVEN COME IN AND ASK FOR IT.

NOW THEY CAME IN AFTER THE FACT ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

YEAH.

THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TAPE.

I'LL, BUT I'LL BE ASKING THE REIMBURSEMENT, I'LL BE ASKING THIS ACT TO BE FUNDED, BUT YOU TO FUND IT.

SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE ALREADY.

THAT'S HOW I'M LOOKING AT IT.

BUT ALSO THEY APPLIED BEFORE THE EVENT.

IT HAD BEFORE.

OKAY.

IT WAS JUST, I MEAN THAT IS, IF IT WAS IN MARCH, THEY, THESE APPLICATIONS WERE DUE WHAT, AT THE END OF JANUARY, I THINK.

MM-HMM .

NO, BUT I'M SAYING THEY DIDN'T APPLY IN THE OCTOBER.

OH YEAH.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

I MEAN THEY KNOW APPLYING IN JANUARY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A FROM MARCH.

OH, SO THEY APPLIED BEFORE THE EVENT OCCURRED, YOU'RE SAYING? I BELIEVE SO.

END CASES WERE DUE.

WHATEVER.

I WANNA SO LONG COMING THE MEETING ON ON THAT.

AND THE, THE KEY QUESTION IS WHAT YOU ASKED EARLIER, IF IT WAS NOT AFTER THE FACT, WOULD WE, AND I WOULD SAY YES.

OKAY.

I JUST THROWING THINGS OUT, SAY I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ON BEHALF OF UM, GO AHEAD.

WHO DO THESE EVENTS? THIS MONEY IS GENERATED THROUGH THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT BRING PEOPLE HERE TO STAY IN THESE BEDS AND, AND THEY DO THAT.

SO I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, THESE ARE THE KIND OF ORGANIZATIONS WE WANNA SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THESE EVENTS THAT BRING, BRING TOURISTS HERE AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE THAT.

THE FACT THAT IT'S TAKEN US LONGER TO, TO GIVE THE FUNDS IS, IS NOT ANYTHING IN THEIR CONTROL.

SO I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THESE ORGANIZATIONS, 'CAUSE THEY'RE STRUGGLING TO KEEP STUFF MAKING BEAUFORT THE, UH, ONE OF THE BEST LITTLE ARTSY

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TOWN IN THE NATION.

AND SO THEY NEED THE FUNDS.

I I AGREE WITH THAT.

I MEAN, SEEMS LIKE ESPECIALLY PARTICULARLY SINCE THEY APPLIED BEFORE THE, I MEAN THE APPLICATION SEEMS IT TAKES A LOT TO PRODUCE THESE THINGS.

I THINK WE'VE CREATED AN EXPECTATION IN PEOPLE'S MINDS THAT WHEN WE ACCEPT THE APPLICATION IN JANUARY, THE PROCESS WOULD'VE BEEN COMPLETED SIGNIFICANTLY FOR APRIL.

AND AS A RESULT, SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY PLANNED AT THAT TIME, THEY'VE ALREADY HAD THE FUND, NOT BECAUSE OF SOME ACTIVITY ON THEIR PART, BUT JUST A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT THE PROCESS WOULD GONNA HAPPEN FASTER THAN EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE.

DID YOU DO THE, FOR THE MEETING FOR THIS ONE WHO DID THE MEETING? BECAUSE WHEN JONATHAN DID THE ONES IN OCTOBER, HE WAS CLEAR YOU DON'T GET ANY FUNDS, DON'T PLAN ON SPENDING IT TILL YOU GET THE LETTER.

'CAUSE IT'S GOTTA GO THROUGH COUNCIL AND EVERYTHING ELSE DID.

WHO DID THIS MEETING FOR THESE PEOPLE? WHO DID? WHO MET WITH THEM? THE PRE NO MEETING.

THEY HAD TO COME TO REMEMBER WORKSHOP.

BONNIE HAR WAS THERE.

NO.

WHO LED THE WORKSHOP? I DID.

OKAY.

FOR THE SECOND.

YEAH.

SO DID, I MEAN, LIKE JONATHAN MADE IT CLEAR, DON'T PLAN ON SPENDING FUNDS UNTIL IT'S APPROVED, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND IT WAS WHEN DID YOU DO THE WORKSHOP? FEBRUARY, DECEMBER 4TH, I BELIEVE.

WAS IT, IT WAS IN DECEMBER.

WELL BEFORE THE APPLICATION.

WE HAD DECEMBER 4TH APPLICATION IN JANUARY.

EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE WOULD MAKE DECISIONS IN FEBRUARY.

SO APPLICATION WINDOW WAS FROM DECEMBER 2ND TO JANUARY 15TH.

THE WORKSHOP FOR THIS GO ROUND WAS DECEMBER 4TH.

MM-HMM .

AND THEY WERE ABLE, WE ACCEPTED PEOPLE WHO WENT TO THE WORK, OTHER WORKSHOPS AS WELL.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO THIS ONE, BUT, SO THEY HAD UP UNTIL, SO THE EXPECTATIONS, WE HAD OUR APPLICATION JANUARY 15TH, WE WOULD MAKE A DECISION IN FEBRUARY.

YEAH.

EXPECT THAT BECAUSE YOUR RECOMMENDATION GOES TO FINANCE AND TO COUNCIL.

NO, NO.

LET RECOMMENDATION I YEAH, WE GO AHEAD.

RIGHT.

THIS STUFF USED TO BE DONE IN OCTOBER AND BY JANUARY PEOPLE KNEW THAT THEY HAD THEIR MONEY MM-HMM .

THIS, THIS LONG PROCESS, US HAVING TO COME BACK, COME BACK, THIS IS NEW.

AND SO, WELL YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS AT ALL.

RIGHT? I I'M, I'M, I MEAN WE, I'M SAYING BEFORE WE, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN ON THIS THING? UM, UH, DICK.

BUT WE TO MEET ONE TIME, MAKE THAT DECISION ON THAT SAME DAY.

AND WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, FOLKS HAD THEIR MONIES.

AND SO NOW IT'S BEEN LIKE, THIS IS, OH, WELL PAST SIX MONTHS.

SO IF YOU, IF YOU ARE AN ARTS ORGANIZATION, MIKE, BONNIE KNOWS ART.

YOU CAN'T WAIT UNTIL JANUARY TO SET UP YOUR CALENDAR.

SO A AGAIN, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO KEEP THEM ENCOURAGED, TO KEEP DOING STUFF, TO KEEP BRINGING PEOPLE IN SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THESE FUNDS TO EVEN GIVE OUT.

BUT JEFF'S POINT IS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE APPLIED IN THE FALL AND THEY PROBABLY WOULD'VE HAD BETTER CONSIDERATION.

THEY MISSED THAT APPLICATION PROCESS APPARENTLY.

AND NOW THEY'RE COMING IN AFTER THE FACT.

AND YES, THEY CAME IN AT A TIME WHERE THEY WOULD'VE HOPED IT WOULD'VE BEEN BEFORE THE EVENT.

BUT YOU, AS SHE SAID, YOU CAN'T TELL YOUR CHICKENS BEFORE THEY'RE HATCHED, IS THE MESSAGE THAT YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET OUT THE LAST TWO YEARS.

UM, AND HERE THEY TOOK THE RISK TO SPEND IT.

NOW IT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE AND THEN UP TO COUNCILS TO WHETHER OR NOT TO, UH, COME IN AND REIMBURSE THEM OR NOT.

UH, BUT JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS ALL THE INFORMATION AND THE FACTS CLEARLY IN MAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND DECISION.

GOT IT.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

WELL, UH, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A THING THAT WE KEEP THEM ON THE LIST TO FUND THEM AND WE'LL, , I HEARD THAT PEOPLE DO WANNA FUND THEM.

SO I THINK THEY STAY ON THE LIST.

YES, I DO.

I DO.

I WANNA FUND THEM.

THE LEADER, YOU'RE UP WITH A CAROLINA MIKE BIRD THING.

UM, SHE HAD A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM, .

AND I THINK, I THINK IT'S A, UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

'CAUSE THAT'S A OUTDOOR RECREATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT SEEMS TO BE, UH, A UPTREND AND IT'S AN EASY, UM, I MEAN WE HAVE, WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THAT KIND OF TOURISM GROWTH.

SO I'M ALL FOR FUNDING HER PROGRAM.

I'M REFUSED ON THIS ONE.

THE PERSON APPLYING FOR THIS, UM, GRANT, UM, FOR THE FUNDING? NO, WE GAVE THEM 1500 LAST YEAR.

15, YEAH.

BUT WHAT WE SAID WAS IT'S

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A GOOD TIME BECAUSE IT'S THE FALL, IT'S NOT A BUSY TOURIST TIME.

SO THEY'RE BRINGING PEOPLE IN THAT WOULD STAY.

MM-HMM .

I'M IN FAVOR OF, OF, OF SOME LEVEL OF FUNDING HERE FOR SHORT.

AND THEY WORK WITH THE CBD? THEY'RE, THEY'RE FISCAL AGENT.

OKAY.

I HEARD A COUPLE PEOPLE SAY THEY WANTED TO FUND THEMSELVES.

YEAH.

4,200.

YES.

THOUSAND.

42,000.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO WAIT, SO THEY HAVE 97 PEOPLE LAST YEAR.

THEY'RE HOPING TO GET TO 400.

THEY PAY SPEAKERS, THEY'RE LODGING THEIR PLANES, TABLES, CHAIRS, BATHROOMS. 42,000.

I I HAVE 4,200.

YES.

THEY CAN'T, THE FUNDS CAN'T BE USED FOR HOTEL LO CAN ENTERTAINMENT.

OKAY.

OH, THEY HAD, OH, THAT, I KNOW WHY THIS ROOM IS BUILT.

THERE WAS NO BUDGET ON THERE.

LITERALLY NO ATTACHMENTS.

THERE WAS THE APPLICATION AND NOTHING ELSE.

THERE WAS TWO DOCUMENTS IN THERE.

DID YOU ALL SEE THAT? I COULDN'T WRITE ANYTHING DOWN.

DID ANYTHING HAVE ANY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOES THROUGH YOU, BRYCE.

YES.

I'M, I'M PULLING IT UP NOW.

THEY HAD, THEY PROVIDED THEIR APPLICATION AND THEN THE ATTACHMENT HAD, IT'S LIKE A SLIDESHOW THAT HAS GRANT FUNDING REQUESTS IN IT AND ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION.

YEAH, THEY HAD A SLIDESHOW.

YEAH.

YEAH.

NUMBERS MM-HMM .

42,000.

I MISSED THAT.

I MISSED ZERO.

SO THEY HAVE, UM, 17,000 FUNDING TO ATTRACT A LARGE DRAW KEYNOTE SPEAKER.

UM, 10,000 FOR KEYNOTE SPEAKER DINNER, CLOSING EVENT PRESENTATION, 15,000 FOR RENTAL OF EVENTS.

AND THEN IS THERE ANY OTHER FUNDING SOURCE? UM, OR ARE THEY JUST RELYING ON ANY TAX FUNDS? I THINK THEY JUST HIT US UP.

I'M NOT, MY DONATED 30,000 TO, TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

A GUY NAMED SY THAT DOES ALL THOSE BIRD BOOKS IS THEIR KEYNOTE SPEAKERS.

MM-HMM .

LIKE HE WAS, HE WAS A VERY, I HEARD FUN.

SO HE CAN TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER.

UH, YEAH, BECAUSE THE QUESTION WILL BE, IS IT A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT IF THEY GET LESS THAN 400 PEOPLE? SHE SAID THEY'LL HAVE LESS THAN 400.

I CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT IN MY OPINION, NOT THE 42,000.

YOU SAID 40,000, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

I MISSED THE ZERO.

YEAH.

WELL, LET'S KEEP GOING.

SO THAT'S A COMEBACK.

LET'S KEEP GOING.

WE'LL COME BACK ON THE AWARD AMOUNT.

YEAH.

HENRY CLAY.

HENRY CLAY, DICK, ANITA.

OH NO, IT'S ANITA.

I'M SORRY.

OH, IT'S, OH NO, THAT'S YOU DICK.

RIGHT? I THOUGHT THAT WAS YOU.

DICK HENRY CLAY.

YEAH.

THIS THE BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT? YES.

OH, DID THAT CHANGE TO ME? CHANGE? YEAH, SORRY.

UM, SHE DOES NOT HAVE ANY FIELDS COMMITTED THAT SHE CAN HAVE TOURNAMENTS AT.

UH, SHE GOT IN TOUCH WITH ME AND ASKED ME IF I COULD CONVINCE THE SCHOOL TO LET HER HAVE TRYOUTS AT A PLACE SHE HAD TRYOUTS LAST YEAR AND THAT THEY'RE RESISTING HAVING 'EM THIS YEAR.

AND I SAID, DO YOU THINK THEY'RE RESISTING 'EM? BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK IF YOU HAVE TRIADS AND TELL PEOPLE YOU NEED TO USE THEIR SPACE TO HAVE A TOURNAMENT.

AND SHE SAID, WELL, MAYBE THAT'S THE REASON.

AND SO, UH, AND I THEN, AS YOU'LL RECALL, I ASKED, WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SMOKE GROUP AND THIS GROUP? AND IT WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR.

THEN ABOUT 30 MINUTES AFTER OUR MEETING, I THINK MOST OF US GOT AN EMAIL FROM HER WHERE SHE CUT HER REQUEST IN HALF JUST BECAUSE OF THE FEEDBACK SHE GOT DURING THE MEETING.

MM-HMM .

SHE STOPPED ME IN THE PARKING LOT AND TOLD ME SHE WAS GOING TO BE SENDING THAT AND SHE SENT IT.

UH, I THINK SHE'S AN ENERGETIC LADY WHO WANTS TO DO SOME STUFF AND I THINK SHE NEEDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

I THINK SHE NEEDED TO DO A LITTLE MORE PLANNING BEFORE WE GET FUNDS.

YEAH.

TOO MUCH ON LITTLE GARBAGE THERE.

YEAH.

AND YOU KNOW, 152,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THE, THE FEES.

YET SHE, UM, HAS FRUSTRATION THAT SHE CAN'T GET THE COUNTY PARKS FOLKS TO COMMIT TO GIVE HER THE FIELD.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, IF SHE DID HAVE THE FUNDING OR THE SITE LOCATION, WOULD YOU SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY OR BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT? IF SHE HAD MULTIPLE TOURNAMENTS, I WOULD SPEND LESS MONEY, BUT I WOULD DO, SOMETHING WENT WRONG.

YEP.

THEY FROZE ON LAS ON THE, I MEAN, A ASK IF YOU COULD.

SHE SAID SHE WOULD GO BACK SOMEWHERE.

ORANGEBURG GO TO ORANGE.

SHE'D GO TO A

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PLACE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.

UM, SO I THINK THE, YEAH, I, I THINK I, I KNOW, UM, THIS SPORTS TOURISM THING IS A BIG THING.

IT'S, UM, IS IT SOMETHING WE COULD SAVE BASICALLY TO HER? MAYBE, UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THIS COULD BE A, A BIG, BIG FUNDRAISING, A BIG TOURIST STORE.

MM-HMM .

AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT, 'CAUSE I HAVE, UM, FOUR GRANDKIDS THAT'S IN THERE AND I'M ALWAYS ON THE GO WITH THEM AND THEY, HUGE, HUGE, HUGE TOURNAMENTS.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, I DON'T KNOW, SORT OF, I'M, I'M GONNA PUT THAT ASSIGNMENT ON YOU, THAT KIND OF HELP GUIDE HER IN PULLING IT TOGETHER.

MAYBE NOT FOR THIS YEAR, BUT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PLANNED IN 2026 AND COME BACK FOR SOME FUNDING FOR FUNDING REQUESTS FOR IT.

YEAH.

I THINK IF THE, UH, PUBLIC MONEY'S GONNA BE USED, YOU GOTTA JUSTIFY TO THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS IT'S A WISE EXPENDITURE.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

YEAH.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

IT, IT, IT'S, YEAH.

IT, IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST, I, I JUST THINK SHE HAS A LOT OF THINGS OUT THERE AND JUST NEED TO HELP HER PULL IT TOGETHER, MAYBE ORGANIZE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PULL IN SOME PARTNERSHIPS AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT ANOTHER CBB SPORTS TOURISM GROUP THAT'S TRYING TO WORK WITH HER TO GET THAT STUFF ORGANIZED.

MAYBE WE COUNT ON THEM, SORT OF HELP HER GET THAT PUT TOGETHER FOR NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

THAT SOUND RIGHT? YEAH.

YES.

NONE OF YOU WILL TALK WITH HER.

I'M HAPPY TO TALK WITH HER.

YEAH.

I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS FROM HERE NEEDS TWO.

I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT WITH SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT ME TO DO IT.

SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO BE IN THE MEETING.

I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN TOO.

YOU EITHER.

YEAH.

I, I DON'T MIND BEING IN THE MEETING.

UM, OKAY.

JUST BE CAREFUL AS FAR AS NOT OBLIGATING MONEY OR MAKING ANY PROMISES.

SHE INTERPRET THAT, UH, SHE FEELS LIKE SHE HAS A COMMITMENT BECAUSE AGAIN, THE COMMITTEE HAS TO MAKE THAT DECISION AS FAR AS WHAT TO RECOMMEND.

AND THEN COUNCIL DECIDES ALL WE DO IS SAY IS WHAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER.

YES.

YOU COULD RECOMMEND HOW SHE MIGHT FIRM UP HER APPLICATION FOR NEXT YEAR.

IDENTIFY, YES.

FOR, FOR SOMETHING LIKE, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOO, WHERE WE HAVE A CBB AND A SPORTS MARKETING PERSON, I MEAN, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO JUST ASK THEM DIRECTLY WHAT THE PROBABILITY FOR SUCCESS FOR AN EVENT LIKE THIS IS AND WHAT'S GOTTA HAPPEN, ET CETERA? I THINK WE GET ASKED THE CBB THAT, BUT I THINK THE ADVANTAGEMENT OF EVENTS MATTERS.

AND SO THE SUCCESS IS VARY ACCORDING TO THAT.

SURE, SURE.

AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING ON HER PART OR SHE FEELS LIKE SHE'S GOT A CERTAIN WAY AND THEN IT DOESN'T WORK OUT AND SHE THINKS THAT ASU WAS DIRECTED THIS WAY, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

AND THEN WE GET SUED FOR THAT.

WE'LL SEND A FOLLOW UP MEMO, MAKE CLEAR THAT, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO OPEN THAT UP TO OTHER APPLICANTS WHO MAY WANNA MEET WITH YOU GUYS.

PERSONALLY, I DON'T HAVE YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE THAT.

I'VE DONE THAT IN YEARS PAST THE BELL MUSEUM WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO REFURBISH SOME HOUSES AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT HOW TO DO SOME STUFF.

I'VE TALKED WITH MON AT CBBI OVER AT THE, UH, USCD ABOUT HOW TO INCREASE OUR TICKET SALES AND STUFF.

YOU KNOW, I FUNDED SOME PRODUCTIONS OVER THERE PERSONALLY.

SO WE KNOW SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

AND FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THE EXPERIENCE, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THAT MONEY BEAUFORD.

THAT COULD BE IN BEFORD.

YEAH.

HELPING.

YEAH.

I KNOW LIKE IN ORLANDO AT THE MARRIOTT HOTEL, THE WORLD CENTER THERE, THEY'VE GOT A CONVENTION CENTER AND THEY HAVE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, AT LEAST A DOZEN BASKETBALL COURTS IN THERE.

AND THEY GROW ALL THESE HUGE TOURNAMENTS FOR THESE .

WE HAD, UH, I'M ON THE USCB EDUCATION FOUNDATION.

WE HAD A GROUP OUT OF GEORGIA COUNTY AND WANT LIVE LEASE LAND, SO THEY COULD BUILD SOCCER FIELDS TO RUN TOURNAMENTS ON THOSE SOCCER FIELDS.

AND THEY WANT THE LEASE LAND.

WE OUGHT TO PROBABLY SEE IF WE CAN FIND A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE SOME FOLKS THAT WANNA COME IN HERE AND DO THAT.

'CAUSE THAT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING.

THEY ACTUALLY PROMOTE IT.

AND OUR LOCAL TEAM, OUR KIDS CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO TRAVEL AROUND EVERY PLACE THEY GO.

SO THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THAT.

AND I KNOW THAT THE SPORTS TOURISM FOLKS ARE WORKING ON THAT.

AND A GROUP CALLED THE FRIENDS OF BUR WELLS PARK IS WORKING ON DOING THAT AT BUR WELLS BECAUSE BUR WELLS IS, YOU KNOW, IN THE NORTH, OF COURSE, OF THE COUNTY AS WELL AS FROM, UH, THE SUN CITY.

OK.

DEEP BLUFFTON AREA.

IT'S PRETTY EASY TO GET TO.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE NOW AT THE DOLLAR MUSEUM OF HILTON HEAD.

MM-HMM .

THEY WERE A NO SHOW.

THEY SENT ME AN EMAIL AFTER THE FACT HARASSING SOME OPINIONS THAT THOUGH OUR MEETINGS WEREN'T FAIR.

I HAVEN'T REPLIED TO IT, BUT I WAS GONNA LET Y'ALL KNOW ABOUT IT.

UM, WHAT WAS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ATTEND.

CORRECT.

SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A LITTLE MISCOMMUNICATION THAT I'LL

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CLEAR UP THAT EVERYONE ALSO HAS TO ATTEND.

WHAT DID THERE SAY? SO, UM, IT SEEMS TO US THAT BOTH OF YOUR PROCEDURES AND YOUR ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA ARE SO NARROWLY CRAFTED THAT THEY'RE DESIGNED TO EXCLUDE THE ACTIVITIES OF THE GULL MUSEUM.

FIRST GULL MUSEUM PARTICIPATES IN ACTIVITIES OF MANY OF THE ATAC APPLICANTS, INCLUDING THE GULLAH FESTIVALS IN BUFORT AND ISLAND AS A PARTICIPANT, BUT NOT PRINCIPAL SPONSOR.

WE ARE NOT IN OPEN POSITION TO DOCUMENT THE WHOLE NUMBER OF HOTELS FILLED BY THOSE ACTIVITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.

WE SURVEYED VISITORS TO OUR FESTIVALS.

A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR VISITORS ARE TOURISTS WHO OCCUPY HOTEL ROOMS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY, BUT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF ACROSS STATE LINES TO ATTEND OUR EVENTS.

WE DO NOT REQUIRE THAT THEY VERIFY THAT THEY HAVE OCCUPIED HOTEL ROOMS EXCLUSIVELY FOR OUR SECOND, APPARENTLY IT IS YOUR POSITION THAT YOU MUST ATTEND AN ORIENTATION SEPARATE SESSION AND APPEAR A SECOND TIME BEFORE THE ATAC COMMITTEE FOR ELIGIBILITY FOR, FOR FUNDING.

IN THE SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING WE ATTEND DID THE ORIENTATION SESSION.

WE APPEAR BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AS ITS LAST HEARING, WE HAVE SUBMITTED A WRITTEN REQUEST FOR FUNDING WITH EXPLANATIONS.

IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT PURPOSE, A SECOND APPEARANCE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE WOULD SERVE.

WE HAVE CHOSEN, AND INSTEAD TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE WITH A WRITTEN STATEMENT.

THE STATEMENT IS ATTACHED.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER STATEMENT TO Y'ALL THAT'S VERY OUR PROCEDURES, THAT'S JUST EVERYONE'S HELD TO THE STANDARD.

SO OUR POLICY IN ADVANCE WOULD CORRECT.

TO SHOW UP.

I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

THEY COULD CHOOSE TO SHOW UP TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION COMMITTEE OR NOT.

UH, AND THEY'LL GET DUE CONSIDERATION BASED ON WHAT THEY SHOWN.

OKAY.

I THINK THERE'S JUST EITHER THEY, LIKE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND OUR PROCEDURE FULLY OR I'LL RE PROCEDURE'S ANY DIFFERENT THAN HILTON HAD WHO GAVE THEM A BOATLOAD OF MONEY.

SO I DON'T GET THAT.

HMM.

I DIDN'T YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEM? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEM? HE ASKED.

YES, I AM.

AND ANITA, THIS IS THE SAME GROUP THAT I TRIED TO HELP WITH REFURBISHING AND INNOVATING SOME OF THE HOUSES OVER THERE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE EXPANDED, THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK THE LAST TIME I WAS THERE.

I WAS THERE IN THE FALL.

YEAH.

I MEAN LAST, LAST JUNE I THINK.

JUNE OR JULY, THEY'VE DONE SO ALL OF THIS LOT OF WORK, ALL OF THEIR ACTIVITY IS OVER ON HILLS HEAD.

YEAH.

IT'S A MUSEUM.

IT'S A MUSEUM.

IT'S A MUSEUM IN OCTOBER.

THE WHOLE MUSEUM IS MUSEUM.

YEAH.

I BELIEVE WE DENIED THEM IN OCTOBER.

THE MUSEUM.

I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE LETTER THEY WROTE, UH, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER POLICY FOR WHAT THEY WERE.

AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THE AFTER THE FACT HERE, SO CORRECT.

THERE'S NO, OKAY.

ARE WE, UM, ARE WE THINKING ZERO HERE? OR DOES ANYBODY FEEL LIKE THIS WAS, THEY WEREN'T ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP? GOT IT.

JUST WANNA CLARIFY.

PERFECT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

FAVOR COURT.

FAVOR COURT.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THEM FANS AND .

UM, OKAY.

LINE, WELL, LINE DANCERS IS, IS THE, IS THE HOTTEST NEW TREND GOING ON AND, UM, THEM HAVING A FESTIVAL TO BRING FOR, AND I MEAN, FOLKS COME FROM EVERYWHERE, UM, FOR IT.

SO I THINK IT'S A, UM, IT'LL BE A GOOD TOURIST, UH, DRAW, UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE MORE OF THEM.

I THINK IT'S, AND SHE'S BRINGING SOME TOP, UM, LINE DANCE, I GUESS, UH, UH, ARTISTS THAT'S GOING TO, AND, AND THE NAME ITSELF IS GONNA BE A DRAW THAT'S GONNA BRING PEOPLE HERE.

AND THE THING ABOUT THE LINE DANCING IS THAT THEY COME IN IN TEAMS. SO IT'S NOT ONE OR TWO PEOPLE.

YOU MAY HAVE 30 PEOPLE AS PART OF A LINE DANCE GROUP THAT MAY COME IN TO BE A PART OF THIS.

SO I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD TOURIST DRAW.

AND REMIND ME WHERE THIS PRESENTATION'S GONNA BE.

YEAH, SHELTER CO.

SHELTER CO.

OH YEAH.

HILTON, ERIC.

MM-HMM .

SHE ALSO SAID THEY ARE BOOKING 100 ROOMS AT THE HILTON HEAD END.

TO GET A GROUP RATE, THEY EXPECT AROUND 400 PEOPLE.

AND ANITA, YOU ASKED HOW WILL YOU GET VISITORS TO COME TO THE NORTHERN COUNTY? RIGHT.

AND SHE SAID, WELL, WE WOULD TELL PEOPLE TO GO VISIT.

AND SHE ALSO DID NOT APPLY FOR HILTON HEAD AT TAX.

REMEMBER WE ASKED HER, SHE DID NOT APPLY FOR HILTON HEAD, WHICH IS WHERE SHE DID APPLY.

SO THEIR BOOK OF ROOMS ON THE ISLAND, IT SOUNDED TO ME IN HER PRESENTATION THAT SHE'S PUTTING A SERIES OF

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THESE PERFORMANCES TOGETHER, SORT OF UP AND DOWN THE COAST.

MM-HMM .

AND THIS BUDGET WAS SORT OF THE BUDGET FOR PUTTING ONE ON HERE.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

I THINK IT COULD BE HELPFUL.

I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, I THINK WE DO A SMALLER AMOUNT THAN SHE'S ASKED FOR, AND THEN SHE NEEDS TO RAISE THE ADDITIONAL MONEY OUTTA THE EVENT, OR ELSE SHE WON'T FILE FOR REIMBURSEMENT BECAUSE SHE WILL NOT HAVE USED THE MONEY PROPERLY.

SO, UH, I THINK THERE'S, IF SHE'S GOT AN EVENT IN ST.

SIMON'S, AN EVENT IN MYRTLE BEACH, AN AND EVENTS AND SOME OTHER PLACES, AND WHEN SHE'S JUST FILLING IN THE GAP WITH US TO COME THROUGH HERE AND DO STUFF, I'M NOT REAL SURE.

UM, THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA BE DOING.

I THINK SHE MIGHT BE AN ACT TO BE PUT IN SOME OF THE FESTIVAL AT SOME POINT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

WELL, THE GOOD PART IS IT'S OCTOBER, SO IT'S SLOW TIME, BUT IT IS MUCH DID THE, FOR 15,000.

8,000 MM-HMM .

AND THEY WILL GENERATE ATEX ON THE ISLAND WITH A HUNDRED HOTEL ROOMS. SHE HOPES.

I'M JUST SAYING, I WONDER THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET THEY SUBMITTED CALLS FOR THAT 15, 15,000 COME FROM CORPORATE SPONSORSHIPS, NOT GRANTS, BUT, UM, I, I, I AGREE WITH THE APPROACH.

DICK OUTLINED SOME, PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF SUPPORT AND MM-HMM .

AND THEN LET'S SEE WHERE THIS THING GOES GOING FORWARD.

MAYBE SHE COULD, MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING SHE COULD DO, UH, IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE COUNTY IN THE FUTURE, OR AN ADDITIONAL EVENT.

MM-HMM .

MATCH UP.

OKAY.

SHOULD WE GET, WE'LL, WE'LL DECIDE TO WATER OUT AS WE, WHEN WE ROLL THROUGH.

UM, YES.

CAN WE TAKE, CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK? ABSOLUTELY.

LET'S DO THAT.

WHERE'S RUSH FIVE? YOU CAN ACTUALLY OUTSIDE AROUND THE CORNER.

FIRST PUSH ON THE LEFT.

I THINK I MUST.

HEY GUYS, I'M ADAM FARBER WITH BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARIES, AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR NEW STREAMING SERVICE CALLED HOOPLA.

IT'S A FREE SERVICE FROM BEAUFORT COUNTY LIBRARIES.

ALL YOU NEED IS A LIBRARY CARD, AND IT'S AVAILABLE ON IOS, ANDROID, AND DESKTOP COMPUTERS.

I HAVE AN IPAD AND WE'LL DOWNLOAD THE HOOPLA APP.

YOU CAN GET UP TO 10 TITLES PER MONTH FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT US@BEAUFORTCOUNTYLIBRARY.ORG.

I'M, I'M NOT GEOGRAPHICALLY, UH, YEAH, I'M FOCUSED ON THE SUBJECT, RATHER.

OKAY.

WHERE ARE YOU? 16? YES.

UH, YEAH.

FREEDOM ARTS DISTRICT.

I, I'M GONNA MAKE A STATEMENT.

STEP COURT.

WE DECIDE THAT WOULD BE 8 4 3 LINE SLATE.

AND COME, COME BACK TO IT.

COME BACK.

I'M GONNA MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT FREEDOM ARTS AND STEP OUTTA THE ROOM.

UM, JONATHAN GREEN IS A LOCAL ARTIST WHO'S GROWN UP AND PERCEIVED TO BE THE FORMER SCHOLAR ARTIST IN SOME OF SOUTHERN STORIES EXPERIENCE.

UH, HE WANTS TO BRING HIS COLLECTION TO BEAUFORT AND HAVE A MUSEUM HERE.

HE'S REACHING OUT TO USCB AND THEY'RE IN DISCUSSIONS, UH, USCB AND FACILITIES TO DO THAT.

THE FREEMAN'S ARTS DISTRICT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY ONE, ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS THAT SOUTHEASTERN BALLET DOES, UH, A PERFORMANCE OF JONATHAN GREEN OFF THE WALL AND ONTO THE STAGE.

THIS OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF FOR A DATE IN MARCH.

THE EXPECTATION THEY HAD WAS THAT THE ATAC PROCESS WOULD'VE WORKED OUT.

I HAD PREVIOUSLY COMMITTED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO ADVANCE THE IDEA OF A JONATHAN GREEN MUSEUM IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE USCB IN THIS AREA

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OR SO THAT FUNDING WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE CAPITAL COMMITMENT WE HAD MADE FOR THAT MUSEUM AND FUNDED THAT PRESENTATION.

ANITA, I THINK HE WENT TO THE PRESENTATION WAS AWESOME FOR THAT EVENT ON SATURDAY NIGHT, ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO.

SO FOR THAT REASON, THEY HAVE ALREADY PAID THESE EXPENSES OUT OF THE CAPITAL COMMITMENT.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT ON THAT NEED THAT I'M GONNA STEP OUTTA HERE BECAUSE I'M CONFLICTED ON THIS ONE.

RIGHT.

I'LL BE OUTSIDE YOU GUYS.

WHATEVER YOU NEED.

AND, AND, AND, AND THE SAME AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I HAD TO SAY IN REFERENCE TO THE, UM, USCB CENTER FOR THE ARTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE, UH, SCHEDULED.

AND SO WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE WOULD'VE BEEN DONE WITH THIS FUNDING CYCLE, UM, AND, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WASN'T, UM, ANYWAY, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, IT NEEDS TO BE REIMBURSED.

UH, THIS, THIS CHALK IT OFF.

THIS WAS THE SECOND YEAR.

UM, AND WITH THAT VALET BEING ADDED TO IT, I MEAN, IT TOOK IT TO ANOTHER TOTALLY DIFFERENT, ANOTHER, ANOTHER LEVEL.

AND I ONLY SEE IT GROWING MORE AND MORE AND BRINGING MORE PEOPLE HERE.

UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR US AND I THINK WE'LL GET A GOOD RETURN ON THAT.

IS THIS THE ONE THAT ONLY PRESENTED ONE DOCUMENT THAT ONLY DID WHAT NOW? UH, UH, I WROTE HERE THE ONLY PRESENTED ONE DOCUMENT REQUEST OF 37 1.

AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SPENDING, SPENDING 50,000 FOR ONE DAY EVENT DURING THE CHALK IT UP FESTIVAL.

IS THAT A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT, IS MY QUESTION? I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT BECAUSE I SEE IT ONLY GROWING.

I CAN EASILY SEE IT GOING INTO AN EXTRA DAY.

UM, BRINGING PEOPLE IN ON THURSDAY AS OPPOSED TO FRIDAY BECAUSE OF THE OVERFLOW.

PLEASE DOCUMENT.

OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I HAVE 30.

WHAT'S THE 37? 5 37 1 THEY WERE ASKING FOR 50.

RIGHT? 50.

GOOD ENOUGH.

THEY GET FUNDING LAST YEAR, LAST TIME, UM, THEY GOT IN CYCLE ONE FOR THE CHALK IT UP FESTIVAL.

THEY GOT CHO AND THEY GOT 50,000 AND THEN FOR CHALK IT UP.

YES.

YEAH.

AND THIS TIME, BUFORD CITY PAID FOR CHALK IT UP.

SO THEY ASKED FOR SOMETHING IN THE, THE FALL YOU GAVE IT TO THEM AND THEN NO, WE GAVE THEM CHALK IT UP IN THE FALL.

YES.

WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.

I DON'T THINK, DID, DID WE GET, I DON'T THINK WE DIDN'T GIVE THEM THEIR FULL ASK.

SHE'S LOOKING AT IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY, I DON'T HAVE IT PULLED UP WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.

BUT THEY WERE AWARDED 50,000 WHAT, IN THE FALL CYCLE ONE? YES.

AND THEN THEY ADDED TO, THEY HAD ANOTHER EVENT.

OTHERS WHAT THEY ASKED FOR IN THE FALL, NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR US TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THAT EVENT.

THEY HAVE 20,000 FROM BUFORD CITY FOR CHALK IT UP.

THEY'RE DOUBLING THE, WHAT IS HAPPENING.

I LOOKED AT BUFORD CITY.

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MULTIPLE ENTITIES FUNDING AN EVENT IF IT'S GONNA BENEFIT, UH, EACH OF THOSE ENTITIES, IT'S, WE PAID 'EM 50,000 IN THE FALL.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE AWARDED.

THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED THEIR FINAL, UM, WHAT WAS THEIR ASK? LET ME, AND DID THEY ASK FOR THIS TO BE, UH, AWARDED IN THE FALL AND WAS DENIED AND NOW THEY'RE COMING BACK? OR IS THIS SOMETHING TOTALLY NEW THAT WASN'T CONSIDERED AS IT BEFORE OR AFTER THE FACT? IT WOULD BE NICE IF ALL THE ATECS WERE AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE I HAD TO DIG THIS UP FROM BEAUFORD CITY.

I TRIED, GOT PLUGGED IN AND I TRIED BUILT IN IT.

THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT TIMES.

IT'S WHATEVER FITS INTO THE CAMPER.

YES.

WHICH IS WHY THEN I ASKED YOU, WHEN THEY PRESENT THEIR RECEIPTS, HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY DIDN'T PRESENT IT TO BUFORD HILL AND BUFORD? RIGHT.

YOU DON'T, WELL, THE QUESTION IS, IS IT BECAUSE THEY NEED A LARGE AMOUNT OF FUNDING, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES? OR ARE THEY DOUBLE DIPPING? I MEANING SAME INVOICES FOR THE SAME AND MONEY.

THAT'S THE KEY.

YOU DON'T WANNA PAY.

YOU PAID TWICE.

REIMBURSED TWICE, CORRECT.

OF THE SAME EXPENSE.

MM-HMM .

HOW ABOUT THEY REQUESTED 50,000 FOR CYCLE ONE AND THEY GOT IT? WELL, THEY, WE TRIED TO FIND THE NARRATIVE.

DID THEY EXPLAIN WHY THEY DIDN'T PUT THIS EVENT IN THAT APPLICATION SINCE THE SAME TIME? YES.

IT'S A NEW EVENT.

CHALK IT UP.

UNLESS ANITA, WOULD THEY HAVE GOTTEN THIS PERFORMER ON A SHORT NOTICE OR PROBABLY.

PROBABLY.

POSSIBLY.

I MEAN, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT.

I

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DON'T KNOW THAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

POSSIBLY.

COULD YOU BECAUSE OH, BECAUSE BECAUSE INITIALLY, UM, I DIDN'T, IT WAS, HE WASN'T ON THERE.

I MEAN THAT THE PLEA WASN'T ON THERE.

AND THEN, UM, AND THEN I FOUND OUT THAT, THAT HE WAS COMING.

MM-HMM.

I THINK THEY HAD BUSES.

PEOPLE CAME BY BUSES TO THE, TO THE SHOW.

YEAH.

I THINK WHAT I RECALL, WE, SO WE FUNDED THE CHALK IT UP EVENT IN THE, IN ROUND ONE OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THIS REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE OFF THE WALL AND ON THE STAGE WITH JONATHAN GREEN, WHICH IN THEIR EXEC, IN THEIR, IN THEIR, UH, NARRATIVE, THEY WRITE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING 37,100 TO SUPPORT THAT PROMOTION.

MM-HMM .

I MEAN THAT PRODUCTION SPECIFICALLY.

SO IT'S UNIQUE TO, IT'S UNIQUE TO THE CHOCOLATE UP EVENT.

JUST HAPPENED TO BE AT THE SAME TIME IN CONJUNCTION.

AND THEN, I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THIS THOUGH, BECAUSE THEN IT SAYS , THE ASK IS 37 1, THAT'S, BUT THEN THEY PUT 50 NO, THAT THE ASK IS 50.

IS IS IS 50.

RIGHT.

BUT THEY, THE, THE 37 IS, IS IS PART OF THE ASK.

AND THEN IT'S SAYING THE ESTIMATED EXPENSES ARE 47,100.

SO I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT VARIANCE IS.

UH, BUT I'M HEARING TOO, THIS EVENT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT LAST APPLICATION.

NO, THEY ASKED FOR CHALK IT UP.

CHALK IT UP.

YEAH.

THAT WAS FOR CHALK IT UP.

BUT, BUT THE, BUT THE, UM, BUT THE VALET, I DON'T THINK IT WAS, I DON'T SEE IT IN THERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

COULD YOU FOLLOW UP THE CHOCOLATE UP APPLICATION? THE PAST ONE OR THE YEAH, THE PAST ONE.

THE ONE WE JUST DID.

OH.

BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS THEY ASKED FOR 50,000, WE GAVE 'EM 50,000.

IS THAT WHAT THE TOTAL THEY NEEDED? BECAUSE BEAUFORT CITY JUST GAVE 'EM 20 GRAND MORE.

THERE GOES TO BRIAN'S QUESTION.

YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET.

THIS IS WHAT DRIVES ME CRAZY.

'CAUSE EVERYTHING'S WELL, ARE WE LOOKING AT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE GAVE SOMEBODY COMPARED TO WHAT WE GIVE THEM? ARE WE, ARE WE, NO, I'M LOOKING AT, IS THERE A DOUBLE DIP? DOUBLE DIP.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THEY WERE ASKED FOR 50.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE EVENT WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WE FINISH IT.

THEN THEY GO TO BUFORD FOR SOMEWHERE.

I GET IT JUST DONE BEFORE.

AND IT WAS, THIS IS CYCLE TWO APPLICATION RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

THE EVENT HAPPENED BEFORE.

THIS IS THE NEW ONE.

JONATHAN GREEN.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT SAYS THEY MISSED THE SUBMISSION DEADLINE THE FIRST ROUND, BUT THEY SUBMITTED HER CHALKED IT UP.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I THINK THIS EVENT WAS A LATER ENTRY INTO THEIR PROGRAM.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

NOTIFICATION OF THE CYCLE TWO, I THINK .

OKAY.

SO WITNESS THIS EVENT 29TH.

4, 6 5.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THEIR, IT SAYS THEIR TOTAL BUDGET AND REQUEST A GRANT BUDGET IS FOR THEIR EXPENSES OF 47,100.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY REQUESTED 50 IF THEIR RIGHT.

YEAH.

EXPENSES ARE ONLY 50 OR THEIR EXPENSES ARE LESS THAN WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

YEAH.

AND THAT, THAT 47 500 IS EXCLUSIVELY RELATED TO THIS PRODUCTION OF THE VALET.

IT, IT, IT IS NOT RELATED TO THE CHOCOLATE UP EVENT.

CORRECT.

IT'S UNIQUE.

WE HAVE THIS SMITH LAST, UM, AWARD.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE A FINAL REPORT FROM THEM YET 'CAUSE IT JUST HAPPENED.

SO THAT, I THINK THEY EMAILED ME AND ASKED ME WHEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT BY.

SO THEY WERE ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT.

BUT MY QUESTION WAS ON THE CHALK IT UP APPLICATION WAS 50,000 THEIR WHOLE BUDGET OR DID THEY PUT THEIR ASKING FOR BLUFFTON, BUFORD CITY, THEY WERE ONE 3000 LAST YEAR.

THEY GOT, THEY WERE GIVEN 50.

NOW THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE OTHER 15,000.

SO YOU GOT 30,000 FOR CHUNK IT UP.

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30.

SHE SAID 50.

THEY GOT 50 FOR THE CHO UP.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THEIR BUDGET FOR THIS, THIS CYCLE.

NO, FOR CHALK IT UP 3000 AND THEIR BUDGET FOR THAT WAS, I, THEIR TOTAL EXPENSES FOR CHALK IT UP WAS OVER 72,000.

BUT THE, THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT JONATHAN GREEN THERE.

OH.

BUT THEY GOT 50 FROM THE COUNTY AND 20 FROM THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T BE .

ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE ON JONATHAN GREEN.

DOES ANYBODY WANNA FUND IT OR NOT? I DO.

I DO.

OKAY, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I COME, I'LL COME BACK AT THIS POINT.

BUT, BUT IS IT, IS IT, IS IT ACCURATE BRYSON, THAT THAT THE FOR FOR CHALK IT UP LAST TIME THEY GOT 50 FROM US AND 20 FROM THE CITY.

OH, WE'RE MOVING ON.

YES.

FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.

YES.

YEAH, I JUST WANNA ASK THAT QUESTION.

OKAY.

JUST CLARIFY.

OKAY.

WE DONE DID CHALK IT UP 50,000 FALL.

GOT, OR HE'S CUS HIMSELF, SO, NO, SORRY.

OKAY, NOW YOU'RE ON WHATEVER THE LAST ONE IS.

GIVE HER TWO 50 COMMITTEE ARY.

I'M GONNA REC I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF.

YOU'RE NOT 250 YEARS OLD.

NEIL 251 TO BE EXACT.

OH, .

THIS WAS MARIE'S.

YEAH, THIS WAS MY, UH, UM, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS MARKETING, PROMOTION, PRODUCTION AND PUBLICITY AND SUPPORT OF THE 25TH.

UM, THE EVENT FOR FOURTH JULY.

SO THEY CALLED THE APPLICATION WELL DESIGNED APPLICATION AND I DON'T KNOW, UM, I'M LOOKING TO SEE THE DATA.

THEY ASKING ABOUT 47,960.

I'M LOOKING TO SEE AND PART THIS GOES TO SALARY TOO.

ON THE DATA GOES TO SALARY.

AND WE, SO I DON'T KNOW.

I'M JUST SAYING, UH, NOT FUND THE WHOLE THING.

BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING.

AND THEY WERE AWARDED FUNDS IN CYCLE ONE, BUT YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED THAT THEY COME BACK.

YEAH, BECAUSE THEY REQUEST, I WOULD SAY GIVE BUT NOTHING UNTIL THING.

SO A PARTIAL.

SO EVIDENTLY THEY NEED MATCHING FUNDS.

WHICH, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS IN ADDITION TO 32 5 WE GAVE 'EM.

BUT ALSO THEY'RE ASKING 20,000 FOR VETERANS DAY, MEMORIAL DAY EVENTS ON BEFORD, HILTON, HEAD BLUFF AND AROUND SUN CITY KIND OF CONVOLUTED APPLICATION.

YEAH, BUT THE MA BUT THE, BUT THE MATCH IS 27,960.

THAT'S THE YEAH.

RIGHT.

THE MATCH.

I'M FAVOR FUNDING SOMETHING HERE.

SEVEN.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, KEN, THE ENTIRE THING.

WE COME, WE'LL COME BACK AND DISCUSS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

HAVE THAT PLACE NOW ABOUT LUNCH.

EAT.

IT'S JUST YOU.

THAT'S ONLY 10.

30, 30.

GOTTA GO BACK.

OKAY, NOW ONE.

OKAY, SO WE WERE, UH, WE'RE NO ONE HILTON HAD.

SO SPANISH MOSS, UH, NUMBER NUMBER TWO, THE KIDS IN PARKS PROGRAM FOR SPANISH MOSS, THE REQUEST WAS 20, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE $10,000 ADMIN.

UM, ADMIN, YES.

SO I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE AWARD 10 ON THIS ONE WITH THE CALL OUT BEING THAT WE WEREN'T, WE, WE WERE FUNDING, WE'RE NOT FUNDING THE ADMIN, BUT THE BALANCE, YOU WANNA TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? 'CAUSE YOUR NOTES HAVE TO REFLECT YOUR VOTE.

THAT'S WHAT JOHN .

SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE.

I SECOND THAT AND VOTE.

YEAH.

ALL IN FAVOR.

OH, OKAY.

DISCUSSION.

YES.

FOR ME.

YES.

SO 10 ON THAT? YEAH.

OKAY.

OR 10 ON.

OR 10 ON ON SPANISH MOSS.

MM-HMM .

UH, KIDS ALONG THE TRAIL.

UM, NUMBER THREE, FRIENDS OF SPANISH MOSS TRAIL, UH, OVER, UH, FUNDING THEIR MARKETING BUDGET OF 20,000.

YEAH, I WOULD, AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL MOTION AGAIN ON THIS ONE TO FUND THE FULL AMOUNT OF 20,000 A SECOND.

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WE GAVE THEM 20,000 IN ROUNDS.

ONE WE DID THEN WELL, THE SAME THING.

YES.

THE DISCUSSION, I GUESS IS, UH, I, IF IT'S IS I THINK THAT, AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE CBB ON THIS.

YES, THEY DO.

I BELIEVE SO MY QUESTION, WHY DIDN'T THEY ASK FOR 40,000? AND I TOOK THEM BECAUSE THEY THINK WE'RE NOT GONNA LOOK BACK.

THEY DIDN'T THINK YOU HAD THAT MUCH MONEY AVAILABLE.

I CAN ASSURE YOU NEXT YEAR THAT WON'T BE A PROBLEM.

YEAH.

NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

I, I'M, I KNOW THAT'S A REASON I DON'T SEE, REASON NOT NOT TO, UM, FUND IT.

SO I'M IN AGREEMENT FOR FUNDING THE FULL AMOUNT OF 20.

I'M OKAY WITH IT.

IS THERE A MOTION ADDITIONAL? I'M GONNA, I MOTION 20 ON THE APPLICATION FOR MARKETING.

EXPANDING SECOND.

AYE.

SECOND.

I SECOND.

DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

I SUGGEST YOU WRITE DOWN THAT WE MAY ONLY HAVE ONE ROUND NEXT YEAR.

DON'T YOU COME? I'M SORRY.

I WAS HOPING WE WOULD SAY MATH.

SO WE ABSOLUTELY ARE GONNA HAVE ONE.

.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YOU'RE ON FOR ART CENTER.

UM, I WOULD SAY THEY ASKING FOR 40.

I THINK THAT WE, IN DISCUSSION, WE SAID THEY GET SOMETHING.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD FUND THE WHOLE 40,000.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD? UM, I'M SAY I WOULD'VE CUT THAT HALF 20.

I THINK, THINK I WROTE NOTE.

THEY'RE GETTING FUNDING.

WE SHOULDN'T USE THAT AS BASE EITHER, BUT THEY GOT MONIES.

I, I'M OKAY WITH CUTTING IT TO 20.

ANYBODY ELSE WANNA MAKE YOU A MOTION? SAME HERE.

I MOVE THAT WE, WE WE UM, CUT THE FUNDS TO 20, THE ASKING FUND TO 20,000.

SECOND DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OKAY.

THERE'S 20,000 PARTS CHAIR.

AHA.

BAHA'S FUNDING OF THE, UH, YEAR E FIREWORKS.

FIREWORKS.

MM-HMM .

I MOVE, I MOVE THAT WE GIVE THE FUNDING THE FULL AMOUNT.

I SECOND THAT SECOND.

OKAY.

DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OKAY.

THERE'S 2024 THAT EVENT.

NEXT UP IS THE, UH, PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATIONS, UM, THE DOCK RENOVATION 52.

THEY ASKED FOR 52,510.

I MOVED THAT WE FUND AMOUNT.

I SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ABSTAINED, RIGHT? UH, I'M SORRY, MARIE, YOU'RE IN.

OH AND YEAH.

YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S 52.

FIVE 10.

AND THAT IS AWARDED THE BEAUFORT HISTORY MUSEUM.

UM, .

JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.

SOMEBODY ELSE GOT SOMETHING.

WAS THAT ONE WITH A STAIRCASE? YEAH.

YES.

NO STAIRCASE AND $60,000 TO I SAID NO, NOTHING.

YEAH.

AN APRIL MOTION.

UH, WE , I DON'T KNOW, BE THE ONE SAYING NO.

WHAT THIS THE, WELL SOME, SOME, SOME OF YOU VOTED TO FUND IT OR YOU WOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT SOME, SOME, SOME FUNDING.

I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF GIVING THEM $30,000 PROVIDED THEY DO THEIR MARKETING THROUGH THE CV.

I LIKE THAT IDEA.

I SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DEDICATED FOR MARKETING AND NOT FOR THE .

EXACTLY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT AND DID WE GET A VOTE ON THAT? NOT YET.

UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S A, THE MOTION SECOND $30,000 DEDICATED MARKETING.

THEY USE THE CDB ALL IN FAVOR.

$30,000 OF MARKETING ONLY THROUGH THE CBB IS THE MOTION.

AYE.

OKAY.

30,000 THERE

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FOR MARKETING THROUGH CB PRESENTATION.

I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING.

I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO GIVE 'EM THE FULL AMOUNT.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE A STRONG RECOMMENDATION HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, CONTINUING OUR SORT OF ARBITRARY COMPONENT.

I'D RECOMMEND 20.

THAT'S A MOTION.

YES.

FOR 15,000 MARKETING, I FOR 35 NUMBER.

YEAH, I KNOW.

BUT 15,000 MARKETING.

YEAH.

YOU WANNA LIMIT 15,000 MARKETING.

I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION IF I HAVE A SECOND.

WHAT ELSE? I LIKE THE 20.

I LIKE THE 20.

SO I'M WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT EXTRA? WHAT ELSE ARE THEY ASKING FOR? MARKETING AND THE TRAVEL THEATER.

OH, MITCHELL THOUGH.

OH YEAH.

TWO FOR THE, TO HELP FUND THEIR TWO CELEBRATIONS.

UH, AI SAW FOR $18,000.

OH, THAT'S ONE UNION.

HE HAD THAT ALREADY.

AND THEN IT'S JUNETEENTH.

YEAH.

AND THEN IT'S THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AND THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.

AND CHRISTMAS LIGHTS.

AND WHY DON'T THEY USE THE CBB? THEIR MARKETING IS IN COLUMBIA.

YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

WHICH CB.

BUT THEY USE, THEY SHOULD USE OURS.

WELL, ALEX DOES MARKET OUR CDS NOT ON .

OH, THEY COULD USE THE CHAMBER THEN.

WE, WE GIVE THEM PLENTY OF MONEY DOWN THERE.

THEY'RE A DMO.

WHY DON'T WE GIVE 'EM $20,000? PROVIDE ITS LIMITING TO MARKETING OWNED.

AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO USE THE FOLKS IN CLUB IN NEXT YEAR, WE CAN TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION.

MY VIEW IS WE'RE SORT OF GONNA WEAN THEM OFF TO UPCOMING THEIR OWN ENTITY ANYWAY, BECAUSE IT COULD BE BIG ENOUGH A SECOND.

I, THAT'S MY MOTION.

OKAY.

DISCUSSION ONE HERE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

A.

OKAY.

SO 20,000 TO BE USED FOR MARKETING.

UH, LET'S SEE.

I THINK WE'RE ON GOAL OF TRAVELING THEATER.

I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF SO I'LL STEP, OKAY.

THIS IS THE PLAY AS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OVERALL REVOLUTION CELEBRATION.

UM, I, THIS IS THE ONE FOR MARKETING 15,000.

SO I, I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION ABOUT THIS THAT I WASN'T SURE ON.

SO DO THEY, DOES THIS GROUP CURRENTLY OWE US ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY PREVIOUS GRANTS? THEY PAID UP.

THEY JUST, THEY WERE AWARDED FUNDS IN CYCLE ONE AND HAVE NOT REQUESTED THE SECOND HALF OF FUNDING YET.

SO I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A REPORT FROM CYCLE ONE YET.

BUT THAT WAS FOR A DIFFERENT EVENT AND SOME OF THOSE EVENTS JUST HAPPENED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.

RIGHT.

THOSE DOCUMENT .

BUT SO THERE, SO THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S NOTHING CURRENTLY OVERDUE OR OWED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.

WE FIXED ALL THAT IN CYCLE ONE.

I SAID I WOULD SAY FUNDED.

THEY HAD EVEN, THEY HAD A FEW, UM, MISSING, SO I WOULD SAY FUNDED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST GOING OVER THE GRAY, GRAY AREAS AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

WELL WHAT ABOUT THEIR PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENT? HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GUYS GONNA TELL HIM THAT BEFORE WE REQUIRE IT? I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.

I THINK ALL OF THAT WAS DONE RIGHT BECAUSE ALL THE ALL THE, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK.

THEY PAID BACK, SHE SAID 50,000, RIGHT? THEY PROVIDED A STATEMENT OF, OF ACTIVITY AND THEY, YEAH.

UM, AND THEIR FINANCIAL REPORT.

OKAY, GOOD.

I SAID FUND AND THE NEXT CYCLE FOR THESE THINGS IF IT'S NOT DONE.

SO MARIE, YOU MOTIONED, UM, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, FUND THIS EVENT, THIS UM, TRAVELING, GOING FOR TRAVELING THEATER AT WHAT? UH, FULL, FULL UH, ASK 25,000.

YES.

25 CLAIMS. I'LL SECOND THAT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OKAY, OUR NEXT BACK IS BACK.

OH, I NEED, YEAH ANITA, UM, IF YOU CAN HEAR US, WE NEED YOU BACK.

OKAY.

THE SYMPHONY YOU DECIDED ZERO I YEAH.

OKAY.

SAID NO, THAT ONE.

YEAH, WE SAID NO.

THAT ONE? YEAH.

OKAY.

NOW THAT ONE.

NOW YOU'RE, YEP.

YEAH, PLEASE COME BACK.

YES.

OH, OKAY.

WAS THAT ONE THAT UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT ENCOURAGING TO ADD SOME SOME OF THE PARTS THIS WAY?

[01:55:01]

YEAH.

ENCOURAGING TO HAVE SOME STUFF IN OTHER SPACES WHEN THEY APPLY THE NEXT TIME.

YEAH, WE DIDN'T SAY THAT.

CAN'T SAY THAT.

WELL THEIR, THEIR PERFORMANCES ARE SET FOR THIS YEAR.

AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA KICK INTO THE TWO YEAR ONE.

YEAH, THEY, THE THOUGHT WAS THAT IF WE SOME MONEY ENCOURAGED THEM TO DO THAT, DO IT NEXT.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE STILL ON THE LIST.

I THOUGHT WE SAID THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL TO PROPO TO MOVE IT OUT TO THE COUNTY AND THEN WE FUND IT.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THEY'RE GONNA FUND IT IF YOU GIVE 'EM MONEY, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK TO NEXT YEAR.

WELL I THINK THE LIKELIHOOD IS THAT IT, WE DIDN'T FUND INTO THE LAST CYCLE AND WE DON'T FUND 'EM NOW THEY'RE GONNA CONTRACT AND FOCUS MORE EXCLUSIVELY ON HILTON HEAD.

THEY, I'M NOT DEBATING THAT.

I'M JUST DEBATING WHETHER OR NOT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE PERFORMANCES ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY WHERE WE MIGHT ON UNITED WAY BOARD, WE HAD FOLKS ARE PROVIDING NEEDS, PROVID PORTION COUNTY GET THEM DO A BIGGER PORTION OF COUNTY SETTING UP ANOTHER PROGRAM SETTING UP IN THIS COUNTY.

SO I'M JUST SUGGESTING TO WE SAY ENGAGED WITH THESE PEOPLE, ENCOURAGING THEM TO APPROVE OR NOT.

THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.

NO APPLICATION TARGET GROUP.

UM, THEY'RE TARGETING, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

WE COULDN'T HEAR THAT APPLICATION.

TARGET THE TARGET AREA OF PERFORMANCE.

SO THEIR TARGET AREA IS I GUESS GEOGRAPHICALLY WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN.

SO YES.

WHICH INSIDE THE AUDITORIUM ON, ON THE SCHOOL PLUS A CONCERT ON HILTON HEAD CONCERT IN BL.

SO WE'RE GONNA FUND THEM PARK UPON THEM TO ENCOURAGE 'EM TO BRING IT OVER THERE.

HOW THEY, WHAT THEY DOING NOW.

HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE THEIR THINKING IN THE FUTURE? ARE YOU GONNA TELL THEM TO MARKETING THIS AREA? THEY CAN MARKET SAY OR HOW'S THAT? HOW WOULD THEY KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO EXPAND THEIR MARKETING MM-HMM .

WELL THE WAY IN WHICH I WOULD PROPOSE WE WOULD DO IT WOULD, WE WOULD SAY TO THEM THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEY EXPAND BEYOND JUST DOING AUDITORIUM CONCERTS AND PARK.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT EXPANDED BECAUSE OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS THE COUNTY TO CREATE HEADS AND BEDS AND SEATS AND RESTAURANTS AND OTHER PORTION OF THE COUNTY AS WELL.

SO WE'D LIKE FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM.

IF NOT, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FUND.

SO WE SHOULD I WOULD SAY 15,000.

WHAT I PUT DOWN THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

THEY'RE ASKING FOR A THEY'RE YEAH, THEY'RE ASKING FOR 25, RIGHT? CORRECT.

I I WAS, I WAS THINKING LIKE 10,000 AND, AND THAT BUT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, CONNECT THEM WITH BAJA OR WHOEVER WE NEED TO, TO TRY TO SAY, HEY, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU BRAINSTORM DOING SOMETHING IN NOR IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY FOR THE FUTURE.

NOT THAT THIS, NOT THAT IT WOULD BE, THESE FUNDS WOULD BE ATTENTION UPON THAT.

BUT, SO THE NEXT, NEXT TIME MAYBE WE TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AND SYNERGIZE FOR SOMETHING BIGGER AND SEE IF THEY TAKE ACTION ON THAT.

AND THAT WOULD INFLUENCE, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY INFLUENCE FUTURE GRANTS.

NOW KEN, IF THEY DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING ON DUSKY, THAT WOULD BE OKAY TOO.

DOESN'T HAVE, OF COURSE.

ABSOLUTELY.

I I ALMOST SAID BOTH BUT THEN I FIGURED DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE BUT YES, OF COURSE THE FU OR THE NORTHERN PART OF THE TOWN.

OH SURE.

WHAT WAS THEIR APPLICATION FOR? WHAT WERE THEY GONNA USE THE FUNDS FOR? THEIR USUALS.

THEY'RE DOING THESE CONCERTS ON HILTON HEAD AND GLOVES.

IT'S OUTSIDE AND, AND THESE GUYS RECEIVED MONEY FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS THAN WE DID AND I GUESS ALL UPSET ABOUT THAT.

IRRITATING COMPLAINTS FOLKS ON COUNTY COUNCIL.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WHAT THEY ASKING TO USE IT FOR ADVERTISING OR TO PAY FOR THE COST OF THE EVENT.

THEY WANT MATERIALS IN THE HOTELS.

THIS IS WHERE AND THEY PUT THEIR ARTIST, JUDGES AND MUSICIANS IN THE MARRIOTT MEMBER CHILDREN.

ALRIGHT, SO DO YOU WANT TO FUND PUTTING PEOPLE IN HOTELS IN ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY? I'M HAPPY TO LIMIT IT.

SPECIFICALLY.

MARK DOCK.

THEN HOW MUCH DID THEY ASK FOR FOR MARKETING? I DON'T HAVE THAT.

I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA FIND, THEY DIDN'T BREAK IT UP THOUGH.

THEY GET DOLLARS FROM HILTON HEAD AND BLUFFTON ATEX AND THE SOUTH CAROLINA PERFORMING ARTS COMMISSION.

OKAY.

BUT YOU CAN FOCUS ON THEIR APPLICATION, WHAT THEY ASK FOR AND ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT ASK AND TO WHAT EXTENT ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH WORKS? UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE, IT PROBABLY THEIR BUDGET AND THEIR MARKETING EXPENSES.

OH, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

BUT THEY, THEY'RE 131,000 IN MARKETING EXPENSES.

BUT APPLICATION SPECIFICALLY BEFORE THE BOARD.

WHAT ARE THEY ASKING? IT'S ON THEIR APPLICATION.

[02:00:01]

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND THEIR BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR.

BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MARKETING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ELSE.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THEM DO PERFORMANCES IN UNINCORPORATED.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MARKETING IT.

WE ARE, THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT PHRASING IT IS WE'RE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO WANNA SUPPORT YOU.

THE HUGE THING WE'D LIKE YOU TO DO IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN DO THOSE THINGS INCLUDED IN FUTURE APPLICATIONS, WE'LL CONSIDER IF YOU DON'T DO THOSE THINGS WE'LL CONSIDER ANY FUTURE APPLICATIONS THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.

THEN WE LOOK AROUND FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.

AND WHERE WOULD THEY GO WITH THE 15 AND GIVE THEM WE'RE DO IT.

IF I DO IT AND WE FIND IT IN THIS APPLICATION, MY RECOMMENDATION IS SPECIFICALLY MARKETING ADVERTISING.

BUT THEY HAVE TO ADVANCE FOR THAT IN THE APPLICATION.

WHICH IS WHAT? RIGHT.

GENERAL MARKETING AND ADVERTISING OR AN UN INCORPORATED GENERAL.

OKAY.

THEIR APP WAS FOR SE ADVERTISING.

SO THEY HAVE BROADCASTING FOR ADVERTISING, AIRPORT ADVERTISING AND DIGITAL MARKETING THAT TOTALS 120 OR $102,000 THAT THEIR TOTAL REQUEST IS ONLY FOR 25.

YEAH.

OF THAT.

THAT'S 'CAUSE WE ALWAYS GIVE 'EM 25.

I KNOW.

SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR $25,000 IN MARKETING AND ADVERTISING IN THIS APPLICATION IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S WHAT I SEE HERE.

OKAY.

SIX ASK FITS WITHIN THAT.

SO KID, THEY'VE ASKED FOR 25 MARKETING ADVERTISING.

UH, IT'S THE MENU OF EVENTS OF ACTIONS AND YOU INVEST EXPENDITURES IT, PRICE OUTLINE.

YOU HAD SUGGESTED 10.

I WAS OKAY WITH 15.

WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? BUT IT IS CONDITIONED UPON, NOT CONDITIONED, BUT IT IS INCLUDING A STATEMENT THAT WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO MORE IN OTHER AREAS.

RIGHT.

ENCOURAGES WORD, REMEMBER CONCOURSE TO ELEG SPRING REQUIRED THEM TO COME OUT HERE.

WHAT, WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE MOTION WAS THAT YOU WOULD COUCH IT.

THAT IF THEY WERE TO ASK FOR MONEY IN THE FOR EVENTS THAT WERE OUT IN RURAL COUNTY OR NORTH OF BROAD, THEN WE WOULD ENTERTAIN A UH, LARGER GRANT.

YEP.

RIGHT? WHAT HE SAID.

YEAH.

I'M FINE WITH 15.

SO KEN, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.

WOULD YOU LIKE IT AND BE A 10? I'LL GO WITH 10 BECAUSE I WOULD SAY 10.

YOU MAKE A MOTION.

I CONCLUDE THAT THIS GROUP, THIS GROUP WE AWARDED 10,000 I SECOND AND YEAH.

10,000 FOR WITH THE CAVEATS.

FOR MARKETING.

FOR MARKETING AND PROMOTION.

AND THE EXPECTATIONS TO DO MORE THE FUTURE.

YES.

YES.

MORE LIKELY TO HELP THEM.

YES.

THE EXPECTA, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT I WOULD SAY THE EXPECTATION IS IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU COME BACK, YOU SHOULD BE OUT PART OF THE COUNTY.

JUST LIKE WE DO WITH CONCOURSE TELECON.

WE DID IT TO THEM.

WE SAID THEY'RE GONNA BE A PAIR OF ISLAND OR WHATEVER.

IF I REMEMBER THAT'S WHY WE GAVE THEM MONEY.

SO THE CONDITION WAS THESE GUYS SHOULD COME OUT HERE.

WHICH I CAN'T, I MEAN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DUSKY AN ORCHESTRA.

TAKING THE FERRY TO THE ROADS ARE TOO LIMITED.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

LEMME TELL THIS I MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO TAKE? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THAT'S OKAY.

A MOTION.

SECOND.

UH, MORE AGAIN.

10.

10.

IT'S 10.

ALL IN FAVOR OF 10 A.

YOU'RE IN FAVOR? I IN FAVOR? YES.

OKAY.

I'VE SEEN PEOPLE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD MAKE A MOTION AND THEN ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE .

THAT'S NOT THE EXTENT WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT.

I KNOW.

I'M JUST POINTING IT OUT.

I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY, NEXT UP IS THE, THE UCSB CENTER FOR THE ARTS PERFORM.

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA.

SANTA BARBARA UNIVERSITY.

DID I SAY THAT? I'M SORRY.

TELL ONLY ONE HA.

THAT'S FUNNY.

UH, OKAY, SO NOW THAT'S BEEN CORRECTED.

UH, THE ASK IS 15,000.

I MOVED THAT GIVE, I, I MOVED THAT WE GIVE THEM THE TOTAL 15.

IS THAT, THAT WAS YOUR MOTION.

THAT'S THE MOTION I MADE.

I'LL SECOND THAT DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION.

OKAY, THE NEXT UH, NEXT ASK WAS FROM THE CAROLINA BRIGHT SANCTUARY GROUP FOR WINGS OVER BUFORT $42,000 ASK, UM, LARGELY ASSOCIATED WITH BRINGING IN THE, A VERY RENOWNED EXPERT IN THIS AREA AND CORRESPONDING EVENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

ANYBODY HAVE

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ANY THOUGHTS HERE? WHAT DID APPLICATION SAY? WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY, WHAT ARE THEY DOING AS MARKETING CONCERN? WHAT, HOW ARE THEY MARKETING AGAIN? UM, LET'S SEE HERE.

HERE SLIDE.

UM, THEY HAVE THEIR KEYNOTE SPEAKER FOR 17,000.

PRETTY STIFF.

UM, OPENING AND FUNDING TO A TERM.

UM, OPENING CLOSING EVENTS.

10,000.

RENTAL OF EVENTS.

15,000 FUNDING HAS BEEN PLEDGED TO HELP OFFSET THE COST OF SUCCESS.

DO THEY CHARGE RESIDENT? THIS EVENT IS IN SUB THOUSAND.

A GOOD TIME OF THE YEAR.

THEY APPLIED LAST YEAR.

THEY APPLIED IN CYCLE ONE.

AND WOULD THEY GET SOMETHING? UM, I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BACK LET THEY GOT 11 TWO.

YEAH.

CURRENT.

SO FOR THE SAME MASK? NO, IT WAS FOR THEIR FIRST FESTIVAL.

OKAY.

THAT THEY PULLED IN 94 PEOPLE AND THEIR FISCAL AGENT IS THE UNDER, IT WAS A ECOTOURISM FESTIVAL FOR THE FIRST ONE.

I MOVED IT.

WE FUNDED.

'CAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GROW.

AND IT'S WHAT, 20 YEAR? IS IT OCTOBER? MM-HMM .

SEPTEMBER 20.

FEBRUARY 20 MEMBER.

I AGREE.

I MEAN, I AGREE.

I THINK THIS IS ONE YOU GOT LOOK AT A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST THE ISOLATED EVENT.

I MEAN, THIS IS A, A, A SPACE OF TOURISM THAT HAS GOT GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH.

SO THESE PEOPLE MAY COME BACK.

THEY AS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT KIND OF CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF BIRDS HERE THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR.

SO YOU COULD HAVE THE SAME PERSON, YOU KNOW, THE SAME GROUP GETTING INTRODUCED, BUT COME BACK MULTIPLE TIMES.

MM-HMM .

UM, YOU KNOW, KNOWING LIKE NOW THAT THEY KNOW THEY LOVE THE AREA AND THERE'S THINGS TO DO AND THE BIRDING IS GREAT.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THIS FULLY, BUT I TOLD THEM NOT ASK FOR 2000.

I YEAH.

DO THEY, I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD, SHOULD, UM, SHOULD FUND IT IN FULL.

DO THEY HAVE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING OVERALL? ANYBODY KNOW THEY ARE COLLABORATING WITH HUNTING ISLAND, SPRING ISLAND FOR OTHER FUNDING.

THEY HAVE 15,000 ALREADY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE FROM I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID.

SO THEY ALREADY HAVE 15,000.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

SO, OKAY, GOOD.

SO THEN WE WOULD, THIS WOULD NOT BE THE EXCLUSIVE FUNDING FOR THIS EVENT.

THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET SOME OTHER, SO, UH, WHAT IS, WHAT DOES EVERYBODY THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF? AREN'T THEY USE THE MONEY TO PUT PEOPLE UP IN HOPE HOTEL AND STUFF TOO? YEAH.

IT'S SPEAKER HOTEL.

YEAH.

ONLY ONCE A WEEK.

THE SPEAKER IS 17 GRAND.

WELL, I WOULD SAY FUNDING NOT 40,000.

I WOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE PAYING THE SPEAKER.

HIS LODGING IS PLAYING TABLES, CHAIRS, PORTA PATTIES.

AND THEY'RE HOPING TO DRAW 400 PEOPLE.

MARIE, DID YOU HAVE A, DID YOU HAVE A DOLLAR RECOMMENDATION? IT'S A HUNDRED BUCKS A PERSON.

YEP.

ARE YOU GONNA RECO THAT MONEY FROM, UH, I KEEP SAYING THAT.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S A LONGER TERM INVESTMENT THAN JUST LOOKING AT IT IN VACUUM AT ONE EVENT.

MM-HMM .

IT'S BUILDING A, IT'S BUILDING A SPACE OF TOURISM.

MM-HMM .

UH, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S MY VIEW.

I MEAN, I, IT, IT, YOU'RE, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT, JUST IN THE VACUUM, IT'S A BIG, IT'S A BIG NUMBER, BUT WE CAN ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE OVER TIME.

I'M JUST FROM MARKETING OF THAT WAY.

2000 RENTALS.

I DON'T SEE EXACT.

SO THIS, YEAH, THIS ACTUALLY DOESN'T INCLUDE MARKETING SPECIFICALLY IN THEIR HIGH LEVEL BUDGET, BUT WE AWARDED MARKETING DOLLARS FOR THEM IN ROUND ONE AND THEY HAVE THE CV, UH, CVB HELPING THEM TO MARKET.

SO A LOT OF TIMES YOU, IN ORDER TO NEED THE MARKETING DOLLARS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE MONIES TO PRODUCE THE EVENT.

AND SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THEY NEED THE MONEY TO

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PRODUCE THE EVENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MARKETED.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE, UM, UP AND RISING, UH, TOURIST TREND, EVERYBODY INTO THE OUTDOORS LIFE NOW AND, AND GREEN EATING AND GREEN LIVING AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THIS IS A WIN-WIN FOR US BECAUSE A LOT OF PLACES DON'T HAVE THE BIRDS AND, UH, THE CLIMATE TO GO ALONG WITH BIRDING.

BIRDING IS AN UP AND COMING.

UM, UH MM-HMM .

SO BANG FOR BUCK.

WILL YOU EVER GET THAT $53,000 BACK AGAIN? YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR RETURN INVESTMENT.

AND WHY AREN'T THEY CHARGING FOR SOME OF THIS? WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? THEY GOT A BIG EXPENSIVE SPEAKER.

AREN'T THEY CHARGING SOME ADMISSION FEE? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF THE TOURISM DOLLARS FOR THE TOURISM TO PAY THAT TAXES IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNING TOO, FOR LESS IMPORTANT PEOPLE.

I'M SOUNDING LIKE JONATHAN HERE.

YEAH.

THAT.

YEAH.

THE REASON THAT IN PLACE IS BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME PEOPLE BE ABLE TO GET TO SPRING ISLAND, BRA ISLAND AND WATER PLANT.

ISLAND.

ISLAND, THE PINKY WILDLIFE REFUGE, POUND METAL BLUFF TO SEA BIRDS AND STUDY BATS.

THE EVENT IS A CAPSTONE FOR THIS.

THEY, WELL, ARE THEY STILL TO, THERE ARE SOME CHICKEN SALES.

SEE, MY OVERALL CONCERN WITH ALL OF THESE IS YOU FUND 'EM, FUND THEM, FUND THEM, EVERYTHING'S FREE.

AND FOR 400 PEOPLE, THAT'S A HEFTY PRICE BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S FREE.

THEY CAN GET THE RETURNING FROM TO THE APEX.

WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE STAYING.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE STAYING, WHAT THEY'RE DOING YET.

OTHER TOURISTS ARE PAYING FOR THEIR ENJOYMENT.

I STILL STAND ON MY EMOTION.

SO EVERYBODY'S CONSIDERED EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, YOU FEEL, HOW YOU FEEL.

DO YOU, YOU WANNA PROMOTE IT AND HOPE IT'S, UH, SUCCESSFULLY DONE AND THAT IT GROWS.

I, I STILL THINK, I THINK IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT.

I THINK IT'S A SEED INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING TO GROW.

AND SO I STILL, UH, PUT THE MOTION IN THAT WE FUND IT.

IT'S STILL THERE.

WE JUST NEED TO VOTE AT SOME POINT.

I MOTION WE, UH, FUND THE FULL AMOUNT.

UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY, THAT WAS ALREADY THE MOTION ON THE TABLE.

OH, MY APOLOGIES.

.

OKAY.

ANY, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

2000 BY 2000.

YOU NEED TO VOTE TO VOTE.

YOU GUYS HAVE TO VOTE.

OKAY.

SO THAT WAS JUST, JUST TWO IN FAVOR FORWARD TWO.

YES.

WE NOT AT A POINT OF DISCUSSION.

I DID HAVE A POINT.

HE ASKED IT IN MORE DISCUSSION.

WE SAID ANYTHING.

YEAH.

NOW HE SAW THE VOTE.

IT'S A WAY TO MOVE IT A SECOND.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, YOU JUST DON GO, THEN YOU CAN BRING UP ANOTHER MOTION.

YEAH, THAT'S UP TO YOU.

SOUNDS LIKE IT FAILED.

TWO TO THREE.

OKAY.

WHO, WHO SAID THREE VOTE? I GUESS THOSE THREE PEOPLE.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY BULLS.

I'M ABSTAINED TWO.

IT'S TWO TO TWO AGAINST.

SHE DIDN'T VOTE.

I DIDN'T VOTE.

I DIDN'T BECAUSE I, I, I QUESTION AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT THIS POINT.

IF THAT'S FAILED YOU, THAT'S FAILED.

SO NOW YOU CAN MAKE ANOTHER MOTION IS WHAT YOU CAN DO.

OR YOU CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER.

IF YOU WANNA MAKE MORE MOTION.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

I THINK WE GOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SEE WHAT OUR RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT WAS.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE KEY.

WE WANT TO INVEST SOME, BUT MAYBE NOT THE ENTIRE 42.

SO WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION WE GOT ABOUT WHAT THEY BROUGHT BACK FROM, FROM WHAT WE GAVE THEM ON THE FIRST BROUGHT ME ANYTHING THEY HAD 97 PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY, SO MY VIEW ON THAT IS MORE BROAD, RIGHT? THAT I DON'T, I'M NOT, I'M NOT THINKING OF THIS AS THE, THE, THE METRICS OF THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS THOSE 97 PEOPLE.

I'M, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT IT LIKE THIS IS A, UM, POTENTIALLY VERY SIGNIFICANT AVENUE OF, OF NEW TOURS.

TOURS TO COME TO THIS MARKET.

WE'RE UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO SERVE THEM, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT, IT'S A FANTASTIC PLACE FOR BIRDING.

WE'VE GOT THE WETLANDS AMENITY, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND SEE.

AND THEN OF COURSE ALL KINDS OF OTHER WONDERFUL GREAT THINGS TO DO THAT PEOPLE THAT LIKE THE BIRD

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PROBABLY LIKE TO DO AS WELL, LIKE KAYAK AND OTHER OUTDOOR THINGS.

SO I, I, I, AND, AND WHAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION DURING THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL WAS THE NOTION THAT THAT THESE, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIRDS ARE HERE THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT TYPES OF THE YEAR.

UM, SO IF YOU COME, ONCE YOU AND YOU LIKE THE AREA, YOU MIGHT BE VERY LIKELY TO COME MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR BECAUSE THE EXPERIENCE WILL BE DIFFERENT.

SO, UM, SO I, I'M, I'M I I VIEW THIS AS MORE AND THEN WE'VE GOT ONE OF A COURT, AGAIN, IF YOU BELIEVE THE PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE MOST RENOWNED SPEAKERS IN THIS WHOLE SPACE IS GOING TO BE HERE.

SO YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD TRACK INCREMENTAL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IF HE'S USING HIS SOCIAL MEDIA TO SAY HE'S COMING AND THINGS LIKE THAT JUST ADDS CREDIBILITY THAT THIS IS A GREAT REGION FOR, FOR THIS ACTIVITY.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT.

DOESN'T, DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE WORD DOLLAR AMOUNT MAKES SENSE.

I DID LIKE THE FACT THAT, THAT, THAT THEY DID RAISE $15,000.

THIS IS A $67,000 EVENT AND THEY RAISED 15 SEPARATELY.

SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE FUNDING TO COME FROM THESE FUNDS.

UM, SO ANYWAYS, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I WAS KIND OF VIEWING THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

I'M, I'M NOT FALLING ON MY SWORD ON IT, SO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO OTHER, ANOTHER, UM, MOTION IF SOMEBODY HAS ONE.

WELL, I, I'M LOOKING AT, I'M HEARING EVERYTHING.

I, I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, 22,000 AWARD AND 22,000 TAKE HALF OF THIS.

AND I CAN GO AHEAD.

SO 25, 22, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO WHY DON'T YOU GUYS TO MAKE PROMOTION IF YOU DID 25, THAT COULD BE 10,000 FOR THE OPENING AND CLOSING EVENTS AND THEN THE 15,000 FOR THE RENTALS OF EVENTS.

AND THEN JUST CUT OUT THE COST THAT THEY ASKED FOR THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER.

AND THAT'S ALL I DID WAS CHECK OUT.

WELL, I THAT WE GO, UH, WITH 25 GRAND DEDICATED FOR WHAT USES FOR WHAT SHE JUST MENTIONED.

MENTIONED THAT AGAIN OF THE, SO THEY'RE CUTTING OUT THE KEYNOTE SPEAKER.

KEYNOTE SPEAKER.

SO IT'S FOR OPENING AND CLOSING EVENTS AND THEN THE RENTAL FOR EVENTS THAT'S PROVIDED IN APPLICATION.

IS THAT YOUR MOTION? YES.

25.

IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND.

THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? I'LL, I'LL VOTE FOR THAT.

AYE, DID, DID MARIE VOTE? SHE DID.

I DID.

I DO.

SO WE'RE 4 0 1 GREAT.

GOOD.

13.

THIS, THIS WAS MINE.

JUST SHOW ME MANY ENTRY, UH, PIECES OF INFORMATION.

AND SO, UH, OPEN.

I THINK IT'D BE BIG HIGHLY AND TRY TO ENCOURAGE HER TO DO STUFF AND WORK WITH THE SPORTS COUNCIL, BUT WE DON'T OH, SO YOU MAKE A MOTION THEN WELL HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION.

NO, YOU MAKE THE MOTION SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION YOU COULD TALK ABOUT IT, MAKE A MOTION.

BUT SINCE, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOT SECOND MATCH, THAT'LL DISCUSS.

I'M, I'M ALWAYS, THAT'S WHAT HE MAKES ME DO.

EXCEPT FOR IT'S ALL ALREADY ON THE TEAM.

ALL DISCUSS.

DID WE COME UP WITH TWO PEOPLE THAT WAS GONNA TALK WITH HER? YOU, UH, ME AND ANITA.

YEAH.

AND I, AND YOU KNOW ME.

I'LL BE QUIET ANITA.

ALL TIME .

OKAY.

AND THE BE WHERE WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE THE WELL, I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE HER TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO FUND FIRST, WHETHER IT'S BASEBALL OR SOCCER OR VOLLEYBALL OR BASKETBALL.

ONCE SHE FIXES THAT START, SHE NEEDS TO NARROW THAT DOWN AND DO SOMETHING.

TRY TO DO ALL OF THAT APPROACH.

FOCUS.

WHAT WAS THAT? FOCUS ON ONE SPORT.

SHE NEEDS TO FOCUS ON ONE SPORT.

YES.

AND LOCATION.

NECESSARILY ONE SHE HAD, BUT SHE GOTTA ORGANIZE IF SHE CAN.

OTHER THAN THAT, START WITH ONE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I'M NOT, I'M JUST SAYING ONE FOR THIS FIRST ONE.

YEAH.

UNTIL SHE, UNTIL SHE BUILDS UP HER NETWORK OF PARTNERS TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE IT.

BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA EITHER BE THE COUNTY OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OR POSSIBLY BOTH.

OKAY.

SO WE GOT A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION IN THE OTHER DISCUSSION.

WOULD, WOULD JUST, WOULD SOMEBODY REPEAT THE MOTION? MOTION? WE NOT FUND THEM, BUT WE MEET WITH HER AND ENCOURAGE HER TO GET READY TO DO STUFF IN THE FUTURE.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION?

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NO.

ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

OKAY.

NEXT IS THE FAVOR.

COURT.

FAVOR COURT.

OH, 'CAUSE YEAH, WE ALREADY ARE NO, ON GOLD MUSEUM.

YEAH.

FAVOR COURT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

THEY ASKED FOR 15,000 TO FUND THE SOUTHERN BLUES LINE DANCE FESTIVAL.

MM-HMM .

WHICH HAS A CELEBRITY IN THIS SPACE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, CORRECT? YEAH.

AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER FESTIVAL THAT HAS POTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF GROWTH.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

NEW WAYS TO BRING PEOPLE IN AND THE FACT THAT IT'S, UM, IT WAS OCTOBER, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

YEAH.

OCTOBER.

OCTOBER.

YEAH.

WHICH IS, UH, WE NEED THE PEOPLE COMING IN AND THIS WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE POTENTIALLY WHERE IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD, WE COULD TRY TO GET THIS IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE COUNTY.

EITHER AS A RIGHT.

MOVE IT OR DO ANOTHER ONE.

WHERE'S THE AT SO SCHEDULED TO BE IN HILTON HEAD.

RIGHT.

SHUTTER COAT OUT IN THE OPEN, NOT IN A BAR.

UNDERSTANDING.

AND THEY ALSO DIDN'T APPLY FOR HILTON HEAD.

THEY TEXT, THEY NEED TO BE CURTIS FROM THERE.

THIS IS A, SHE, SHE'S DOING A SERIES OF THESE UP THE COAST.

AND THIS CYCLE HAPPENED TO FIT IN IN FUNDING SOMETHING UP HERE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

MORE FUNDING EVENT IN A BAR.

OH NO, IT'S OUTSIDE.

THINK THAT TODAY'S IMPORTANT AND THE 15, ONLY FOUR ADVERTISEMENT I HAD IN MIND GIVING HER SOMETHING LIKE $5,000.

LET HER COME UP WITH THE OTHER 10,000 IF SHE WANTS TO HAVE THE EVENT.

IF NOT, SHE WON'T SUBMIT FOR REIMBURSEMENT.

WELL THAT COULD BE USED AS LOGIC FOR A LOT OF THESE THAT YOU GAVE FULL FUNDING FOR.

THAT IS CORRECT.

IT COULD, BUT ALL OF THEM ARE NOT NEW.

ALL OF THEM.

NOT FOR FIRST TIME.

BUT THAT IS, WELL THE BURGER ONE IS RELATIVELY NEW.

WELL ALL WILL BE NEW AT SOME POINT.

SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE NEW EVENTS, RIGHT? AND WE SHOULD STOP FUNDING THINGS LIKE, UH, THE EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN EXISTING FOR A WHILE 'CAUSE THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL.

SO WE SHOULD STOP THAT.

THAT THERE'S RECENT EVENTS WILL STOP HAPPENING AND THEN TOURISM WILL DRIVE.

IT WON'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT HAVE MONEY.

THEY'LL KEEP GOING.

THEY WON'T STOP.

SO THEY ARE ASKING FOR STATE REQUIRE THE NATIONAL RECORDING ARTIST AND DJ, WHICH IS 15,000 RENTAL OFFENSE, TABLE CHAIRS, SOUND SYSTEM, 15,000 ARMED SECURITY FOR 1500.

VENUE RENTAL, 750 MARKETING PROMOTIONS, 10,000 IN INSURANCE OF 1800.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO CUT DOWN THAT BASED ON, UM, BUT THEY'RE ONLY ASKING FOR 15,000.

THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY FOR.

YEAH.

YOU, YOU SAID 10,000 FOR MARKETING, RIGHT? YES MA'AM.

YES.

LET'S DO THE 10,000 FOR MARKETING.

10 DAYS.

FIFTH DAY OF LINE MARKETING.

IS THAT A MOTION? I I MOVED THAT WE, I MOVED THAT WE AWARD $10 FOR MARKETING FOR THIS, FOR THE, WHAT IS IT? UM, LOW COUNTRY SOUTHERN BLUES BLIND DANCE FESTIVAL.

I SECOND ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT IS THE FREEDOMS ART DISTRICT, UM, STEP OUT WHILE YOU GUYS DO THIS.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS FOR THE, UH, THE ARE OFF THE WALL BALLET.

YOU GUYS DIDN'T SOUND LIKE YOU'RE IN FULL SUPPORT.

I SAID THIS ORGANIZATION REQUIRED THE MATCHING FUND.

AM I RIGHT? NO.

ON THE NOW? NO, THAT'S THE NEXT ONE.

THIS WAS THE BALLET THAT OCCURRED DURING THE C CHALK UP EVENT.

UM, I BELIEVE THE EXPENSES WERE LIKE 47.

I'M NOT SURE WE, WE WEREN'T CLEAR WHY THE REQUEST WAS 50.

I DON'T THINK WE HEARD CORRECT OF THAT.

47,000 REQUESTED.

WHAT, WHAT WAS, UH, MARKETING, UM, STRATEGY.

I, LET'S LOOK AT THAT.

UM, PULL THAT BACK UP.

IT'S THE SAME ONE THAT DID THE CHOCOLATE LATCHING GOT MONEY LESS AND THEY DID IT DURING CHOCOLATE THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

SO BOTH EVENT WILL BE SIMULTANEOUSLY, I THINK, I THINK WE NEED TO FUND THEM,

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REIMBURSE THEM, UM, AS A MOTION AT LEAST.

YEAH, I, I, I SO MOVED THAT WE DO 47,000, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE OFF THE WALL THAT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S BRIGHT.

WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE Y'ALL LOUDER.

SORRY.

OH, TWO HOURS LATER.

WE'RE MAKING YOU LOUD .

IT WAS, IT'S BEEN AT THE LOUDEST.

YOU NEED A SECOND ON THAT? COULD YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION, ANITA? YEAH, I, I MOVED THAT WE DO 47,047.

SECOND DISCUSSION.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I'M IN FAVOR.

TAKE A VOTE.

I'LL GO ALONG WITH THAT.

YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DID COME BACK.

AND THAT'S FOR WHAT THEY HAD IN THEIR APPLICATION, CORRECT? YES.

BOARD MADE FAMOUS COMING BACK.

I THINK YOU'LL DO QUITE WELL.

WELL, THEY ALREADY HELD IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THE FINAL, THAT'S THE DOOR YOU OPEN TWICE THE FINALS.

THE BEFORD COUNTY TWO 50 COMMITTEE.

COUNTY TWO 50.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WHAT THIS THE ONE THAT NEEDS SOME MATCHING FUNDS? YEAH.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS THE MATCHING FUNDS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND WHAT DID WE DECIDE ABOUT THE GULLAH MUSEUM? WE TOOK THAT OFF COMPLETELY.

'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T CORRECT.

THEY DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED 7,000.

SO THEY HAVE 20,000 FOR THOSE VETERAN DAY AND MEMORIAL DAY EVENTS WITH NO BUDGETED AMOUNTS AS OF YET.

YEP.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GOT 20,000 OUT OF THEIR YEAH.

TOP OF THEIR HEAD.

I LIKE THE IDEA, I LIKE THE IDEA OF FUNDING THEIR NEED, UH, FOR THE MATCH TO GET THEM THE LARGER GRANT.

HOW MUCH IS THAT? YEAH, 27 9 60.

THAT'S THE NUMBER I HAVE RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

IS THAT THE MOTION? 27 9 60? YES.

I'LL SECOND.

AND DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

YOU KNOW CRAIG, WHEN YOU WRITE THIS UP, I WOULD SUGGEST FOR THEIR VETERANS DAY MEMORIAL DAY EVENTS, THEY SHOULD PAIR UP WITH CAROLINE FURMAN FROM OUR VETERANS OF PARIS.

THEY LISTED THEY'RE GONNA HOLD IT IN SUN CITY.

WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE EVENTS, SO THERE WOULD BE NO COST.

WE HAVE 'EM EVERYWHERE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY PUT 20,000.

OH, OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

PUT A FLAG ON EVERY GRAVE IN THE NATIONAL CEMETERY.

AND YOU HAVE A VETERANS GRAVE.

BUT WE GET OUR PRINTOUT WITH A TOTAL ALLOCATION.

THIS YES.

TELL YOU YES.

SO WE ARE AT, FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN VOTED ON AWARDING 332,470.

AND THAT'S LEAVING 207,000 TO 80, BUT THAT'S FINE.

2 0 7 7 2 87 80 IS WHAT'S LEFT OVER.

AND THIS OTHER MONEY IT'S GONNA USED FOR THE NEXT CYCLE.

IT ROLLS OVER OVER, IT'LL BE THE FIRST MONEY USED IN THE NEXT CYCLE.

OKAY.

WHAT WAS THIS LAST DISCUSSION RELATED TO? WHAT WAS THE APPLICATION ASKED FOR? UM, THEY ASKED FOR MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE, THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION.

WELL, THE MATCHING FUNDS WERE THE MATCH STATE FUNDS FOR THE 250 ANNIVERSARY.

20,000 WERE NOT FUNDING WAS FOR AN EVENT TO BE HELD IN SUBSID AND ELSEWHERE FOR, UM, AND FOR MEMORIAL.

THAT EVENT.

SO YOU'RE NOT FUNDING PUTTING THE FLAGS ON THE GROUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, NO, NO.

THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

OKAY.

THIS IS OUR COUNTY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE QUALIFY AND QUALIFY THE STATE LAWS ASKING THIS IS SPECIFICALLY THE MATCHING FUNDS MATCHING, GIVING THEM, I THINK IT, I'M NOT EVEN SURE IT'S MATCHING RIGHT.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A SMALL, MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT THAN THEIR, THAN THEIR, THAN THE GRANT THEY WILL GET BECAUSE THEY RAISED THAT AMOUNT I THINK.

YEAH.

SO IT'S BETTER THAN MATCHING, RIGHT? THE MATCHING FUNDS.

IS THERE A LIMIT ON THE USE? UH, IS THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THEIR APPLICATION? 'CAUSE IF YOU'RE EXCLUDING 20,000, YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHAT YOU'RE NOT FUNDING THAT'S DONE TO BE USED FOR.

SO I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT IN THIS ONE BECAUSE IF THE STATE HAS A REQUIREMENT, SAID YOU GOTTA USE IT THIS WAY.

WE DON'T WANNA CREATE A CONFLICT THAT PREVENTS GETTING NO, HE'S SAYING MAKE SURE IT'S YOU THAT 20,000 THAT YOU DIDN'T WITH THE FUND.

SO YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T SUBMIT INVOICES COVERING THAT.

WE NEED TO TELL 'EM THAT 20,000 IS NOT INCLUDED.

BUT I DON'T WE WANNA TELL 'EM ABOUT 27,009 60 BEING USED IN A WAY, PERHAPS.

NO, IT'S IN AN APPLICATION.

IT'S JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE

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CLEAR THAT WE DON'T REIMBURSE THEM FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU DON'T WANT HUNDRED VETERANS OF MEMORIAL.

WE'RE IN GREEN.

WELL THINK DOING THE SAME REASON THE GUY WOULD PUT 60,000 PARKING WITH NEED TO GET INVOLVED.

SOME ONE PROBLEMS. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE BOTH ON EACH OF 32.

FOUR 70 IS THE TOTAL.

YES.

TOTAL.

DOES ANYONE WANNA GO BACK AND REVISIT ANY SUBSET OF THAT? IF NOT, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT AMOUNT.

SECOND, RECOMMEND THAT FOR COUNTY COUNCIL.

I GOT A MOTION.

WE GOT A SECOND.

OKAY.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

IT IS CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT NO ONE IS VOTING FOR ANYTHING PARTICULAR TO WHICH THEY HAVE RECUSED THEMSELF DURING THE DISCUSSIONS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

DO I NEED TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING LESS THAN THE TOTAL NEWS? NO, JUST SAYING THAT.

EXCLUDE VOTING.

ANY SPECIFIC AMOUNTS? YOU HAD A, YOU WROTE DOWN WHO RECUSED GLEN, RIGHT? YES.

GOT IT.

THE PROCEDURES IS TO GO TO FINANCE.

YOU'LL ON THE AGENDA? YES, BUT WE HAD AND WHAT DID, WHAT DID WE GIVE? SAY THAT AGAIN, ANITA.

WHAT DID WE GIVE THE USCB CENTER FOR THE ARTS? DID WE GIVE THEM 15? 15,015? THAT WAS THEIR, THAT WAS THEIR REQUEST.

YES.

TOTAL FUNDING.

KEN, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE YOU TO DRAFT YOUR, UH, MEMO? WILL YOU HAVE IT DONE BY UH, NOON.

BY NOON? CAN I SEE THE, UH, CAN I SEE THE OTHER, UH, SAMPLE? YES.

I'LL GET ALL OF THAT TO YOU TODAY AND I'LL SEND YOU THE NOTES THAT I'VE TAKEN TOO.

AND TO HELP YOU OUT, I WILL TRY TO WORK ON THE A IS AND THE ORDINANCE THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPANY THIS GOING FORTH WORKING WITH BRYSON.

BUT I NEED ALL THE NUMBERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

SO THE NUMBERS, THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE HAD IN THE FALL, THE AMOUNT THAT WE AWARDED ON UPDATE, THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAD HERE TO AWARD.

AWARD AND THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO AWARD BASED UPON NICK'S MOTION JUST A MINUTE AGO.

OKAY.

I NEED ALL THAT.

I'LL TRY TO PUT THAT INTO THE ORDINANCE TO GET IT READY.

ALL OF WHICH HAS TO BE DONE TODAY.

BECAUSE TAB WANTS TO RUSH THIS, UH, FOR TOMORROW'S AGENDA REVIEW.

YEAH.

IF WE, IF WE DON'T PUT IT ON TOMORROW'S AGENDA, IT'S GOTTA WAIT A WHOLE MONTH TO GO TO FINANCES.

WE'LL TRY TO GET IT DONE.

THE AGENDA, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE HIS PRESENTATION.

MAKE THE COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THE AGENDA.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE ABOUT MONDAY.

I NEED TO HAVE THE A IS AND THE ORDINANCE TODAY THAT I'LL WORK WITH BRYSON TO GET DONE, UH, BY TOMORROW MORNING.

WE JUST NEED YOUR, UH, MEMO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, HOPEFULLY BY FRIDAY.

SO IT GETS THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THAT AHEAD OF TIME AND PREPARE FOR THE MEETING.

AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN THE CIVILIAN WORLD, WHAT IS AN A IS OH YEAH, I WAS GONNA TELL YOU.

AGENDA ITEM SUMMARY.

ONE PAGE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

OKAY, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

AND WHO WILL BE PRESENTING AT FINANCE COMMITTEE? OUR CHAIR.

VICE CHAIR OR, AND ALONG WITH DICK IS WHAT I HEARD.

AND WHOEVER YOU WANT, THE VICE CHAIR OR HIS DESIGNATE OR THE CHAIR WHO DECIDES TO JOE UP? HE DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN MEETING.

AND WHAT'S THE DATE, WHAT IS THAT DATE OF THE PRE MONDAY? MONDAY.

IF ALL MONDAY.

MONDAY.

WHERE AND WHEN? I THINK THERE AT TWO O'CLOCK.

MONDAY.

MONDAY AFTERNOON, THE 21ST OF APRIL AT THE ARTHUR HORN BUILDING ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

AND IT'S EITHER AT TWO O'CLOCK OR FOUR O'CLOCK.

IT'S TWO O'CLOCK FRIDAY.

SO TWO O'CLOCK.

WE'LL HAVE YOU OUTTA THERE NO LATER THAN MIDNIGHT.

BRION.

IF YOU COULD JUST GET ME THAT ADDRESS.

YES, SIR.

AND THEN, AND WHATEVER YOU SEND, UM, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE INFORMATION THAT WAS JUST REQUESTED, JUST COPY ME SO I HAVE EVERYTHING.

OF COURSE.

ANYTHING THAT'S, UNLESS IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO COPY ME.

OKAY.

THAT'LL DO THAT AS SOON AS I .

THAT'S GREAT.

THEN THE, AND THEN THE PREVIOUS MEMOS THAT I'M TRYING TO REP, YOU KNOW, UM, USE AS INSPIRATION WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

ALRIGHT, ARE WE, UH, ARE WE READY TO ADJOURN? A MOTION TO ADJOURN? IS THERE A MEETING DATE SET FOR THE NEXT GO ROUND? IS THAT ALL SAID? NO, IT'S IN AUGUST.

THEY HAVEN'T SET IT YET.

WOULD YOU LIKE US TO SET IT THEN IT UP? HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SET IT.

SOME AT SOME POINT YET TO DETERMINE DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION.

YEAH, RIGHT.

UH, MAKING THEM AVAILABLE AND THEN MEETING, IF YOU'RE GOING DO WORKSHOPS, ALL OF THAT STUFF BE DISCUSSED.

UH, YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER ADMINISTRATOR THAT MEETING WORKING IT OUT ADMINISTRATIVELY ONLINE, WHICH MIGHT BE FEASIBLE.

THIS CASE THAT THE CHAIR IS NOT HERE.

UM, AND TRY TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHAIR SCHEDULE AS WELL.

UH,

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I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE OUR TRAINING SESSION ON AUGUST 5TH AND HAVE OUR FUNDING SESSION ON AUGUST 29TH.

EXCUSE ME.

OUR SUBMITTAL DATES AUGUST 29TH AND THEN THAT FUNDING SESSION SOMETIME SEPTEMBER.

SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

MEET ON FIFTH AND TRAIN.

OKAY.

THEY GOT UNTIL 29TH TO SUBMIT.

THEN WE WILL HAVE THEM ON THE 29TH OF SEPTEMBER, AUGUST.

AND THEN REVIEW 'EM IN MID-SEPTEMBER.

SAY, WELL ON UM, TUESDAYS.

YEAH.

YOU JUST WANT ONE WORKSHOP, NICK? OR TWO? WE ONLY HAD ONE TRAINING SESSION FOR, WE DID TWO FOR THE LAB FOR CYCLE ONE.

THIS WILL BE CYCLE ONE.

WELL THAT WE DID TWO FOR CYCLE ONE AND TWO.

WE DID ONE FOR EACH CYCLE.

NO, TWO FOR SITE ONE.

WE DID A, WE DID A MORNING AFTER.

DO WE NEED TO DO IT AGAIN? IT'S ANOTHER WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND BACK? UM, I THINK THAT PEOPLE APPRECIATE HAVING AN OPTION OF MORE THAN ONE DAY, BUT WE ONLY GIVE THEM ONE PRESENTATION DAY.

SO IT'S AS LONG AS WE LET THEM KNOW IN ADVANCE, THEN IF WE ONLY WANNA OFFER ONE, THEY JUST HAVE TO SEND SOMEBODY.

YEAH.

AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY HAVE TO BE THERE IN ORDER TO BE RIGHT.

YEAH.

MAKE IT CLEAR.

SO, OKAY, THIS IS MY QUESTION.

SO SINCE THEY ATTENDED THIS YEAR'S WORKSHOPS, THOSE ARE NO FOR NEXT YEAR'S, THEY HAVE TO RETENT AND COME BACK.

ALRIGHT, WELL WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THE CHAIRMAN, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THOSE ARE 10 BASIS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS OR, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS? , DO YOU THINK 24 DAYS IS LIKE FOR THEM TO COME TO TRAINING AND THEN PREPARE THEIR APPLICATIONS IF THEY , THAT'S, THAT'S SHORT FOR NEW PEOPLE.

YEAH.

SOMEBODY THAT'S NEW AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY GOTTA TALK TO C, B, B, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

I THINK THAT'S SHORT.

IT'S THREE AND A HALF WEEKS.

WHY DON'T WE PUSH IT OUT TO SEPTEMBER 10TH THEN? YEAH, TAKE IT AFTER LABOR DAY.

I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU'RE A NEW EVENT AND YOU'VE NEVER DONE THIS, LIKE THE LADY WITH THE SMOKE, IS THAT THE FIRST TIME SHE CAME? IS THAT THE DATE AFTER LABOR DAY? IT'S A TUESDAY.

NO, YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANNA MEET THE DAY.

IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT'S A WEDNESDAY.

IT'S A WEDNESDAY GRANT DEADLINE.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING? NO, THE WORKSHOP.

WORKSHOP.

OKAY.

SO SO THE WORKSHOP, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AUGUST 5TH, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND THE LABOR DEADLINE GRANT DEADLINE WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 10TH.

SO JUST, OKAY.

DEADLINE.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE CAN OPEN THE GRANT AUGUST 4TH AND PE I MEAN YOU HAVE TO ATTEND.

NO, WE'LL OPEN IT THE FIFTH AFTER THE, THE DIRECT, RIGHT.

SO FIFTH TO THE 10TH AND THEN SOMEWHERE, 10 DAYS, TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT WE BEGIN, WE HAVE OUR SESSION, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

SO SOMEWHERE AROUND SEPTEMBER 23RD, WHICH IS A TUESDAY.

IT GOOD I MY HOLDING OUT.

OKAY.

OKAY, WE GO.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S GREAT.

TUESDAY, ARE WE ADJOURNED? WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

THANKS FOR WATCHING BEAUFORT COUNTY TV.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING THE GRAND OPENING OF WHITEHALL PARK.

I'M STEPHANIE NAJE, THE BEAUFORT COUNTY PASSIVE PARKS MANAGER, AND I AM SO THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EVERYBODY.

IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

I KNOW.

AND I AM VERY HAPPY AND

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PROUD OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE HERE AND ALL OF THE CITIZEN INPUT WE'VE GOTTEN DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS.

AND, UM, I DO WANNA GIVE SOME BRIEF THANKS TO A FEW FOLKS BEFORE I TURN THIS OVER TO OUR DISTINGUISHED GUEST, COUNCILMAN NEW YORK GLOVER AND CITY OF BEAUFORT, MAYOR STEVEN MURRAY.

SO FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UM, MAMIE AND MODS FOR, UM, PROVIDING OUR REFRESHMENTS AND COFFEE TODAY, AND ALSO THE FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL PARK FOR THEIR DONATION IN THE, UM, IN THE PROVIDING OF THOSE REFRESHMENTS.

SO THAT IS REALLY GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I ALSO WANNA THANK, UM, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER PAUL SUMMERVILLE.

HE'S BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL DURING THE ENTIRE ACQUISITION PROCESS.

UM, WITHOUT HIM, I THINK THE, THE VISION HERE WOULD BE, UH, QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT.

AND ALSO ALICE HOWARD FOR HER SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE AS THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE CHAIR.

SHE'S BEEN, UM, A REALLY GREAT SUPPORT OF PASSIVE PARKS.

ALSO IN GENERAL, I ALSO WANNA THANK ERIC GREENWAY.

HE'S THE BEAUFORT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

HE HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS GUIDANCE TO ME PERSONALLY IN MY CAREER HERE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND WITH HIS LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT, I'VE, I'VE BEEN REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PARTNERING ORGANIZATIONS THAT I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE SHOUT OUT TO THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AND ALL OF THEIR WONDERFUL STAFF, WHEREVER THEY'RE KIND OF HIDING IN THE BACK FOR THEIR MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE OPEN LAND TRUST WHO HAS COMMITTED TO, UM, PROVIDING ASSISTANCE WITH THE TREE HEALTH ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL PARK FOR ALL OF THEIR PROMOTION AND VOLUNTEERING ACTIVITIES ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, WITHOUT PARTNERING AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS, MY JOB WOULD BE MUCH, MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.

SO THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE FOLKS.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I CANNOT LEAVE OUT MY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM WITHOUT THEM.

LITERALLY NONE OF THIS WOULD BE HERE RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT INCLUDES THE BEAUFORT COUNTY CAPITAL PROJECTS DEPARTMENT, OUR, UM, CONTRACTORS, WOODEN PARTNERS FOR THEIR PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION OVERSIGHT SERVICES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, NICK'S CONSTRUCTION, WHO DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB AND PAID ATTENTION TO ALL OF THE TINY DETAILS THAT I GREATLY APPRECIATE THEM FOR.

SO THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU GUYS TOO.

SO WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM COUNCILMAN NEW YORK GLOVER AND CITY MAYOR STEVEN MURRAY.

AND I WILL INTRODUCE MR. GLOVER FIRST.

THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.

UM, I WANNA CONTINUE IN THE SAME VEIN, UM, THAT STEPHANIE STARTED, JUST TO ADD A FEW OTHER PEOPLE OF THANK YOU.

UM, SHE'S NAMED SOME OF THE PEOPLE ONE OF THE KEY, UH, GROUPS, UH, OF PEOPLE.

AND I, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS, UH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA EXPECT THIS FROM ME, UH, BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY SAID THAT I DON'T LIKE THEM AT ALL.

BUT I WANT TO THANK OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR BEFORD COUNTY .

UM, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.

THEY DO A GOOD JOB, A GREAT JOB REALLY FOR US.

BUT I JUST DON'T LIKE LAWYERS.

SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY MADE SURE THAT EVERY INCH OF PROPERTY THAT WE PURCHASE IS YOURS.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THAT.

UM, YEAH, I'M GOING TO, UM, QUOTE, UM, PRESIDENT BIDEN, UM, WHEN HE SAID, THIS IS A BIG FREAKING DEAL.

, THIS IS A BIG FREAKING DEAL.

UM, BEAUFORT COUNTY HAS PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY FOR YOU.

UM, WHATEVER IS SAID AND DONE FOR THE FUTURE, UM, THIS PROPERTY IS THE CITIZENS OF BEAUFORT COUNTY.

AND FOR THAT WE THANK YOU, UM, FOR THIS.

UM, WE, WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP HERE BETWEEN THE CITY OF BEAUFORT AND THE COUNTY.

AND IN THAT PARTNERSHIP, UM, THE COUNTY OWNS THE PROPERTY, OKAY? UH, WHICH MEANS THAT IT COULD NEVER BE CLAIMED BY THE CITY, BUT THE CITY IS GONNA MANAGE IT.

AND SO, UH, THE EXPENSE OF MAINTAINING IS ALL OF THE CITY.

BUT, UM, IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.

ONE

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OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY, UM, WANTED WAS A BOARDWALK.

AND THEY CAME TO THE COUNTY FOR THAT BOARDWALK.

AND, UH, WE APPROPRIATED FUNDS FOR THAT.

AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

AND WE APPROPRIATED MORE FUNDS FOR THAT.

SO WE HAVE A LOVELY BOARDWALK THAT CONNECTS DOWNTOWN BEAUFORD WITH THIS PARK HERE.

AND FOR THAT, UM, IT MAKES A GOOD PARTNERSHIP.

I CALL THIS PARK, UH, THE CONNECTOR.

IT CONNECTS THE SPANISH MOSS TRAIL TO HUNTING ISLAND.

YOU MAY NOT SEE THAT NOW, BUT THIS HERE IS CENTRAL TO THAT CON CON, THE CONNECTION, THE CONNECTIVITY.

WE HAVE A PLAN FOR PATHWAYS ALL OVER THIS COUNTY, AND THIS IS A CONNECTOR IN THE MIDDLE OF YEE AND HUNTING ISLAND.

UM, AND I, THAT'S WHAT I SEE.

THAT'S WHAT I ENVISION, UH, COMING BEFORE US.

UM, I'M GONNA ALLOW, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, PAUL SUMMERVILLE AND SOMEONE ELSE, UM, LARRY, UM, WHITE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON MY BEHALF.

SO IF PAUL, YOU WOULD COME FIRST AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS BECAUSE WITHOUT PAUL'S LEADERSHIP, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

AND I WANNA PERSONALLY SAY TO HIM NOW, THANK YOU.

WELL, THIS IS A, CERTAINLY AN UNEXPECTED PLEASURE.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

IT KIND OF REMINDS ME, UH, YEARS AGO THERE WAS A KIND OF A STANDING JOKE IS HOW TO BECOME A MILLIONAIRE.

FIRST THING YOU DO IS GO OUT AND EARN A MILLION DOLLARS .

WELL, IF YOU WANNA HAVE A 10 ACRE PARK, THE FIRST THING YOU GOTTA DO IS COME UP, COME UP WITH 10 ACRES.

IT TURNS OUT THERE WERE SOME OBSTACLES TO THAT.

QUITE A FEW ACTUALLY.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKED VERY HARD TO OVERCOME THOSE OBSTACLES.

SO WE COULD OWN THIS PROPERTY JOINTLY WITH CITY OF BEAUFORT TO MAINTAIN IT.

AND, UM, AND HERE WE ARE TODAY.

UM, I HAVE SUCH A SENTIMENTAL ATTACHMENT TO THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY, MY GRANDFATHER AND I USED TO COME HERE ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS AND SIT OUT ON THE SEA WALL.

MY GRANDFATHER WAS A PHILATELIST.

NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT MEANS.

A PHILATELIST IS A STAMP COLLECTOR.

AND, UH, SIT OUT ON THE WALL OUT THERE AND SWAP STAMPS WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNED THIS PROPERTY.

I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS NAME.

HE WAS AN OLDER GUY IN 1950, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW OLD HE'D BE TODAY.

AND SO I DEVELOPED A REAL WARM SPOT IN MY HEART FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPOT.

AND, UH, WHEN IT WAS TIME TO EITHER DEVELOP IT OR NOT, UM, I JUST COULDN'T, I JUST COULDN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO I WENT INTO ACTUALLY WITH A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.

AND, UH, WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET THIS 10 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE.

AND TODAY IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ONE, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SPOTS IN THE WHOLE COUNTY, I THINK.

SO THANK EVERYONE WHO WORKED HARD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, AND I'M GLAD I WAS A SMALL PART OF IT.

AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU, PAUL.

UM, I'M GONNA ASK, UM, LARRY WHITE, UM, WHO'S WITH THE FEL BURN FOUNDATION, WHO WAS VERY GRACIOUS, UM, IN MAKING A DONATION, A LARGE DONATION, UH, TO THIS CALL.

SO MR. WHITE, IF YOU WOULD COME AND JUST MAKE SOME REMARK AND CLOSE US OUT, UM, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITE.

GOOD MORNING.

ONE THING THAT STRIKES ME AS WE GATHER HERE, THIS PLACE LOOKS A LOT BIGGER IN PERSON THAN IT LOOKED ON THOSE PLA UH, AND IT'S A, IT'S A WONDERFUL REALITY, UH, TO REACH.

I AM WITH THE FELDEN FOUNDATION.

WE ARE A GRANT MAKING PRIVATE FOUNDATION WITH HEADQUARTERS IN OCALA, FLORIDA.

AND I WAS REMINDED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE, UH, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, MAKE A GRANT, UH, TO ASSIST IN THE PURCHASE OF THIS PROPERTY BY THE COUNTY.

UH, UH, FELDEN TAKES A LOT OF PRIDE IN WHAT THAT HAS PRODUCED.

UH, AND IT WAS REALLY PRODUCED BY THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND ALL OF YOU AND ALL OF THE PARTNERS WHO CAME TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UH, UH, CARTER AND I HAVE BEEN IN BEAUFORT FOR A LITTLE OVER 10 YEARS.

UH, WE FEEL LIKE, UH, WE'VE LIVED HERE FOREVER AND WE, UH, ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE LONG RANGE BROAD PERSPECTIVE VIEW THAT THE COUNTY BRINGS TO PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS.

AND WE ARE VERY, VERY GLAD TO

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BE A PART OF IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW WE'RE GONNA HEAR A FEW WORDS FROM CITY OF BEAUFORT MAYOR STEVEN MURRAY.

THANK YOU.

WELL, GOOD MORNING, FAM.

WHAT A, WHAT AN EXCITING DAY IT IS.

I, UM, SOME OF THE GRAY HAIRS THAT YOU SEE ON ME ARE PROBABLY A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT, .

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE, THE CUSSING, THE FUSSING, THE SUING THE PUBLIC MEETINGS, HERE WE ARE.

AND I'LL BE CANDID AND SAY THAT WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE THOUGHT, THE COMMENTS THAT I WOULD MAKE THIS MORNING, I, I STRUGGLED A LITTLE BIT GIVEN HOW SORT OF DISJOINTED AND SAUSAGE MAKING THE PROCESS TO GET HERE TODAY HAS BEEN.

BUT I WAS COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE, LOOKING AT OUR GREAT CONNECTOR, SEEING ALL OF YOU, MANY OF WHO I CONSIDER CLOSE FRIENDS AND PEOPLE I'VE ADMIRED AND RESPECTED FOR A LOT OF MY LIFE, THERE WAS A REALIZATION THAT ALL OF THAT WAS WORTH IT BECAUSE THIS PARK WILL OUTLIVE ALL OF US AND MY GRANDKIDS AND MAYBE GREAT-GRANDKIDS, GRANDKIDS, WILL CRAB FROM THAT DOCK AND KICK A BALL IN THIS PARK.

AND SO TO ALL OF THE PARTNERS INVOLVED, AND THERE ARE SO MANY, AND I THINK STEPHANIE DID A GREAT JOB, AND YORK AS WELL, OF NAMING PEOPLE THAT EACH LIFTED A HAND.

AND AS THE GOOD BOOK SAYS, MANY HANDS MAKE LIGHT WORK.

AND SO I'M GRATEFUL TO, TO EACH OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO BRING THIS AMAZING ASSET TO BEAR.

UM, I DO WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO STEPHANIE AT THE, AT THE COUNTY FOR HER HARD WORK, NOT JUST ON THIS PARK, BUT OPENING UP SO MANY OF OUR PUBLIC LANDS ACROSS THE COUNTY, WHICH I THINK CITIZENS NEED GREATER ACCESS TO.

AND I DON'T THINK WITHOUT HER LEADERSHIP WE'D BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

I ALSO GOTTA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY SQUAD.

SO WE GOT CITY MANAGER SCOTT MARSHALL AND, UH, FORMER MAYOR BILLY KEISLING WAS A INSTRUMENTAL PART OF THIS PROJECT, UH, WHEN I WAS JUST A, A COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, BUT I'VE GOT MAYOR PRO, TIM MIKE MCFEE HERE, COUNCILMAN MITCH MITCHELL.

UH, COUNCILMAN NEIL LIPITZ IS HERE WITH US AND CARDBOARD, UH, COUNCILMAN JOSH TI.

UH, AND THEN I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN, UH, PHIL CROMER AND COUNCILWOMAN NAN SUTTON.

WERE ALSO A PART OF THIS, OF THIS PROJECT.

GOTTA GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT TO MY DOWNTOWN DIRECTOR, LINDA ROPER, WHO'S DOES EVERYTHING AND JESSICA IN DOWNTOWN OPERATIONS.

AGAIN, MANY HANDS MAKE, MAKE LIGHT WORK.

AND I CAN'T FORGET THE FEARLESS LEADER OF FRIENDS OF WHITEHALL, PAUL BUTER, WHO WAS ABSOLUTELY DOGGED IN HIS APPROACH, , BUT ALWAYS WITH A SMILE, ALWAYS WITH CIVILITY, AND ALWAYS WITH RESPECT FOR WHOEVER HE WAS IN FRONT OF ADVOCATING FOR.

WE NEED MORE PAUL BUTER IN THE WORLD.

ALRIGHT, AND I GOTTA THANK COUNTY COUNCIL, UH, FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND THEIR INVESTMENT IN THIS PARK.

AND I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH ONE OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES, AND THAT'S A GREEK PROVERB THAT SAYS THAT A SOCIETY GROWS GREAT WHEN OLD MEN PLANT TREES WHO SHADE THEY KNOW THEY SHALL NEVER SIT UNDER.

AND SO AGAIN, WHILE ALL THE CUSSING AND FUSSING AND SUING AND HAND RINGING AND NAME CALLING, IT WAS WORTH IT.

AND TODAY, I'LL LEAVE HERE AND I HOPE EACH OF YOU DO TOO, WITH A GREATER COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY IN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER AND LEVERAGE OUR INDIVIDUAL RESOURCES, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH AMAZING THINGS THAT WILL PRODUCE SHADE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME LONG PAST OUR TIME HERE.

AND HOW AMAZING IS THAT? I HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL BEAUFORT DAY.

AND

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AS ALWAYS, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I OR ANYONE FROM TEAM BUFORT CAN EVER DO FOR YOU, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW DRUM ROLL.

WE'VE GOT BIG SCISSORS FOR MR. GLOVER AND MS. MURRAY TO COME AND CUT OUR BEAUTIFUL BLUE RIBBON.

ACT LIKE WE LIKE EACH OTHER, .

ALL RIGHT, 1, 2, 3.

WOO.