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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:07]

OH THERE'S A DOWNSIDE WE A CALL NATURAL RESOURCE COMMITTEE TO ORDER AS THOUGH IT YOU WOULD RISE WITH ME AND I DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF YOUR FLAG THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE REPUBLIC IS STATES ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU.

STATEMENT OF COMPLIANCE WITH FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT OF NOTIFICATION SENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE MEDIA ABOUT TIME AND PLACE OF AND THE AGENDA OF THIS MEETING.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

THE CHAIR WILL NOW GET A TEN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES I MEAN TO APPROVE THE AGENDA THAT'S BEFORE US. SO MR. DAWSON THIS MOTION I'LL MAKE THE SECOND MRS..

HARWOOD A SECOND IN A DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY REASON YOU

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - March 3, 2025]

HAVE OKAY IT IS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE THE APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 3RD TWO 2025 MINUTES EACH YEAR WITHIN THE TWO IN A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES DONE ALL SPEAK AT ONCE WITH YOU MR. DAWSON ANYBODY SECOND I'LL SECOND THAT ANY DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY REASON YOU'RE HERE OKAY.

IN TERMS WHAT YOU'RE VOTING WITH YOU OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD]

YES, SIR. WE DOWN TO NUMBER ITEM NUMBER SIX WHICH IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND I HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT A MR. KEVIN DUKES.

MR. DUKES YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

MR.. MY NAME IS KEVIN DUKES AND REAL SAY ATTORNEY THE LAW FIRM OF HARVEY AND BETTY. WE WERE JUST HERE WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES SO I'LL TRY NOT TO THINGS BUT I KNOW MR. CHAIRMAN YOU WEREN'T HERE SO SOME THINGS MAY REPEAT FOR YOUR BENEFIT IF NOTHING ELSE. BUT FIRST LET ME START BY CONGRATULATING ROLAND CRITICAL AND THE OPA AND THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAMS ON THE TWO PROJECTS THAT THEY TONIGHT AND TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THOSE PROJECTS AS A TREMENDOUS AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE NORTH WICHITA POINT BEING THE FIRST PROJECT THAT RULING CRITICAL HAD IT'S IT'S TAKEN A WHILE BUT IT'S GOOD TO GET IT DONE SO AS I MENTIONED IT COMMUNITY SERVICES THIS MORNING WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR A DOWN ZONE A REZONING TO DOWN ZONE THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS PINE ISLAND UNDER THE PANEL AND DOWN ZONING PLAN 100 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WHERE HOUSES WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE LANDSCAPE PERMANENTLY REMOVE AND THAT WILL RESULT.

ONE THING I DID MENTION IS THAT WILL RESULT IN A DENSITY EQUIVALENT OF ACTUALLY WHAT'S ON LIMIT ISLAND SO NATURE PRESERVE BASICALLY ONE UNIT PER TEN ACRES AND SO I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THIS DOWN ZONING PLAN WITH THE GOALS OF RURAL AND CRITICAL AND THE GREEN SPACE PROGRAMS AND THROUGH A MARKET BASED PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP EVERYTHING THOSE INITIATIVES AIM TO ACHIEVE THE KEY POINT WITHOUT SPENDING A SINGLE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND IN FACT IN OUR PLAN WHICH I MENTIONED NOT ONLY ARE WE NOT ASKING FOR ANY TAXPAYER DOLLARS BUT WE'RE MAKING INVESTMENTS INTO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY ON SAINT HELENA THROUGH THE PROPOSED TRANSFER OF THE PARCEL OF LAND IN THE CORNERS AND THE DONATION OF INITIALLY $3 MILLION WITH A DEFINED REVENUE STREAM GOING FORWARD TO FUND A COMMUNITY AND RECREATIONAL CENTER. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU MEMBERS KNOW IS PROBABLY A TOP OF THE LIST FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON SAINT HELENA AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. I KNOW THEY COME TO A LOT OF THE MEETINGS LOOKING FOR THAT. IN ADDITION THAT INITIAL INVESTMENT THERE WILL ALSO BE AN $100 MILLION PRIVATE INVESTMENT INTO THE ISLAND. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT IS THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN THE SAINT HELENA. IT WILL CREATE 35 TO 70 PERMANENT JOBS HUNDREDS OF PART TIME FULL TIME EQUIVALENT JOBS DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THAT WILL MAKE IT THE EMPLOYER ON SAINT HELENA AND WE JUST HEARD FROM DC ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING JOBS LOCATED CLOSE TO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND WHILE THIS PLAN REDUCES DENSITY BY 66% AND REDUCES TRAFFIC BY 60%, WHAT ALSO REDUCES TRAFFIC IS ALLOWING FOLKS TO WORK CLOSER TO THEIR HOME WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE THOSE TRIPS. AND SO FOR PLACES LIKE LADY'S ISLAND, THE CITY OF BEAUFORT, THE TOWN OF PORT ROYAL THERE'S DOWNSTREAM AREAS.

THIS PROJECT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE AND I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT AND SO WE HAVE PRESENTED A COMPREHENSIVE

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NARRATIVE THAT'S NOW IN THE PUBLIC THAT'S WITH EVERYBODY HERE AND I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TRANSPARENCY WE WANTED TO GIVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THE INFORMATION. WE WANTED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ALL OF THE INFORMATION AT THE SAME TIME AT THE BEGINNING FOR TRANSPARENT AND PROCESS. ADDITIONALLY WE'VE INCLUDED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH OUR PLAN AND THAT IS KEY THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS HOW TO GO ABOUT THAT.

WE'D ASK FOR Y'ALL TO ENGAGE WITH US, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN LOCK IN THESE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE TREMENDOUSLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU THAT AND JUST TO FINISH UP JUST A COUPLE OF THE ITEMS 360 ACRES OF PRESERVE OPEN SPACE, A 90% REDUCTION IN FORMIDABLE DOCKS PROTECTING 30,000 FEET OF SHORELINE ALONG VILLAGE CREEK EDDINGS CREEK IN THE MORGAN RIVER THE REMOVAL OF 1 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND THAT ALONG WITH MOVING VERTICAL STRUCTURES AS I MENTIONED BEFORE BACK TO 150 FEET ON 365 ACRES FROM 60 FEET WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT FROM RUNOFF AND PRESERVE SCENIC VIEWS FROM BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ADJOINING WATERWAYS AND LANDS AND SO I THANK YOU I'M GONNA YOU TO WRAP UP I UNDERSTAND.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. HONESTLY, GIVEN WHAT YOU AND GRACE PERIOD RIGHT NOW I UNDERSTAND AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT I WANT IT AND I WILL CLOSE BY SAYING THAT THIS HAS BEEN DEVELOPED THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S FROM BEFORE THAT'S OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.

AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A PLAN DEVELOPED TO TRY TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY TO GARNER A BROAD BASE OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND ON SAINT HELENA AND BEAUFORT COUNTY AS A WHOLE . THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE EXTRA TIME.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. NEXT MR. MIGHT BE SEEN HE WAS TO INTRODUCE A DOCTOR AND I CAN READ WRITING HERE SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WELL THE MEDICAL FIELD WE MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T READ OR WRITE OR RUNNING SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M HERE NOT TO SPEAK. I WILL HEAR SHORTLY SPEAK ABOUT GREENSPACE BUT.

I'M REAL PLEASED THAT THIS COMMITTEE YOUR COMMUNITY SIR TO INTRODUCE DR. ANDREW BRIDGES.

DR. BRIDGES IS THE PRESIDENT CEO OF THE WILDLIFE FOUNDATION AT THE MOORES PLANTATION.

MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT BUT I AM REAL PLEASED TO INTRODUCE HIM TO YOU.

DR. BRIDGES IS INVOLVED IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT INNOVATIVE WILDLIFE HABITAT LAND MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS GOING ON EVERYTHING FROM LAND STEWARDSHIP.

HE'S A RESOURCE FOR THE COUNTY AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING TODAY JUST A VERY QUICK INITIAL FACE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE YOU'LL HEAR MORE FROM DR. BRIDGES OVER TIME AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BEING INVOLVED MANY OF YOU I'VE ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE TO BE OUT THERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD WE TAKE GREAT PLEASURE, MR. DAWSON THAT WE'RE IN YOUR DISTRICT, WE'RE PROUD OF WORK THAT WE DO AND WITH THE INVESTMENTS THAT THE COUNTY'S UP IN THAT AREA OF THE PORT OF THE NORTHERN COUNTY WITH THE AIR SPACE AND ETC. I WANTED EVERYONE JUST TO HAVE A CHANCE THAT WILL TELL YOU THAT DR. BRIDGES COMES FROM A BACKGROUND ATTENDED UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, TEXAS A&M AND VIRGINIA TECH AND HE A PRODUCT OF THE WILBUR WILDLIFE FOUNDATION BASED IN TEXAS WHICH IS A REALLY INTERNATIONALLY ACCLAIMED WILDLIFE REFUGE EXCUSE ME WILDLIFE FOUNDATION AND AND SO I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT DR. BRIDGES WILL BRING A NATIONAL FOCUS ON ON INNOVATIVE IDEAS FOR LAND STEWARDSHIP MANAGEMENT CONSERVATION, PARTICULARLY WITH THE FACT THAT WE REALLY HAVE A UNIQUE ECOSYSTEM HAVING A SALTWATER, BRACKISH WATER, FRESHWATER UPLAND COMPONENT WHICH IS QUITE A UNIQUE IS PART OF THE COASTAL .

SO JUST AS A COURTESY ONE OF THE COUNCIL THE COMMITTEE JUST TO MEET DR. BRIDGES AND LOOK FORWARD INTERACTIONS IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT, DR. BRIDGES, YOU HAVE A IF YOU ARE OF HIS TIME IF YOU WANT TO JUST SAY SOMETHING, I PROMISE TO BE WITH DID YOU COME IN FROM CHARLESTON TO I'M SORRY? OH, NO, MA'AM.

I JUST CAME DOWN FROM NEMOURS JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO. OKAY.

WELL, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. OKAY, SIR CHAIRMAN GLOVER, WE RODE IN A TRUCK TOGETHER OVER AT COTTON HOPE TOO NOT TOO LONG AGO. YOU REMEMBER THAT, OKAY? YES, SIR BUT BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WARM WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION, MR. CHANG AND AND JUST ONE OTHER ADDITION I NOTICED THAT HE ONE OF THE THINGS HE MISSED AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AT NEMOURS IS A LOT OF YOUTH EDUCATION AS WELL AND ADULT EDUCATION.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER PRIMARY COMPONENT OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON OUT THERE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE. WE NOW HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC TOURS THAT ARE AVAILABLE NOW SO IF FOLKS WANT TO COME OUT LEARN MORE ABOUT CONSERVATION SO

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THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF THOSE YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR DOING THOSE ONCE A MONTH SO LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL OUT THERE REAL SOON. THANK YOU.

I DO GET INVITED IN FROM DR. ADAMS WITH PEN CENTER TO JOIN YOU OVER ON WEDNESDAY BUT I CAN'T OH YOU CAN'T GET STUCK HERE I'M SORRY FOR WORKSHOP TIME YOU WANT TO COME? YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME JUST JUST LET ME KNOW, OKAY? THANK YOU, MRS. SMITH.

OH, IS THE ROB IS HERE OKAY? OH, THAT'S RIGHT. I'M SORRY I TOOK OFF ALREADY.

[8. PLASTICS ORDINANCE UPDATE]

OH, THAT'S YES. YEAH. MOVING DOWN TO NUMBER EIGHT BUT WE HAD NUMBER SEVEN NO. OH YEAH AND I'M ALSO TO BE ADDRESSING THE PLASTIC BAG ORDINANCE SO GO AHEAD. YOU OKAY AND ALL RIGHT, I GUESS THAT COMES FIRST.

OKAY. WELL I WANTED TO GIVE AGAIN AT THE OF THIS COMMITTEE GIVE AN UPDATE OF THE PLASTIC BAG ORDINANCE AND THE REVISIT THAT IS CURRENTLY GOING ON IS REMEMBER LAST YEAR COUNCIL THIS COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL THE PLASTIC BAG ORDINANCE AND BASICALLY OF REMANDED IT BACK TO STAFF TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT THE YOU KNOW THE SCOPE IT THE IMPACTS AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE YOU WE CONSULTED OTHER COMMUNITIES BECAUSE YOU KNOW ARE SEVERAL COMMUNITIES IN COASTAL CAROLINA THAT HAVE ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO OURS AND HAVE ORDINANCES THAT HAVE A BROADER SCOPE THAT YOU KNOW, ALSO RESTRICT THE USE OF OTHER TYPES ITEMS THAT ARE OFTEN FOUND YOU KNOW IN OUR AND ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. AND SO WE TALKED TO THE CITY OF CHARLESTON AND SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE NOW. OH GOOD GOOD.

SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED FROM TALKING TO CHARLESTON COUNTY IS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH A RATHER EXTENSIVE OUTREACH PROCESS WHICH INVOLVED DOING A SURVEY BOTH OF RESIDENCE OF THE CITY OF CHARLESTON BUT ALSO BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE BUSINESSES ARE BEARING BRUNT OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THEM.

YOU KNOW HEARD ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS AND IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING WHAT WE LEARNED THEM, YOU KNOW. BUT LET ME GO BACK TO THE SLIDES HERE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID LOCALLY IS THAT WE BROUGHT IN WE DEVELOPED A WORKING GROUP WHICH BROUGHT IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING OUR KEEP KEEP BE FOR COUNTY OUR RECYCLING AND WASTE MANAGEMENT STORMWATER COMMUNICATIONS AND SO WE HAVE THIS WORKING GROUP AND ACTUALLY THEY THEY'VE BEEN VERY ENTHUSIASTIC WHICH IS IT'S NICE TO WORK WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO EXCITED ABOUT DIVVYING UP THE TASKS. YOU KNOW IT HAS A BROAD BASE. WE ALSO HAVE SOME CITIZEN MEMBERS AND SO BASICALLY WE BROUGHT THIS IDEA FOR THEM OF THIS SURVEY AND SO THE COMMITTEE DEVELOPED THIS SURVEY AND I THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO THIS GROUP THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE THAT THAT IS ONLINE ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT THE CUT OFF DATE WAS APRIL 1ST.

YEAH. SO WE'RE NOW IN THE POINT WHERE WE ARE COMPILING INFORMATION.

WE HAVE SOME INITIAL FINDINGS THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE RESULTS SO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU KNOW WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THE SURVEY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED FROM TALKING TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS IS ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO TRY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF WASTE THAT GOES INTO YOU KNOW, THE ROADS OR OUR WATERWAYS AND THEY'RE NOT ALL OUTRIGHT BAN, YOU KNOW.

SO THERE ARE YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR PLASTIC BAG KNOW IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T ALLOW YOU KNOW, SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS OF A CERTAIN SIZE CERTAIN THICKNESS. BUT OTHER RESTRICTIONS MAY INCLUDE HAVING AN ORDINANCE THAT LET'S SAY FOR STRAWS OR FOR PLASTICS OR PLASTIC WHERE THE THEY REQUIRE TO BE ON REQUEST, YOU KNOW AND SO WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM TALKING TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS IS THAT THAT REGULATION IS ACTUALLY WITH MANY BUSINESSES CAUSE FOR ONE THING IT'S NOT TELLING A CONSUMER WHETHER CAN HAVE SOMETHING OR NOT BUT IT'S PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE CONSUMER TO ASK FOR STRAW WHICH PERSONALLY I LIKE I DON'T USE STRAWS IS NOTHING. IT'S JUST I DON'T YOU KNOW, LIKE STRAWS BUT I GET OFFERED ONE AND SO THE MINUTE I'M OFFERED ONE IT'S SORT OF LIKE WELL IT'S YOURS NOW AND YOU

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KNOW SO ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES THIS IS THAT IT REDUCES WASTE BUT IT ALSO REDUCES COSTS BUSINESSES AND SO THEY'VE KIND OF FOUND A WIN WIN SITUATION WITH MANY BUSINESSES IN CHARLESTON COUNTY. AND SO THESE ARE THE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KIND OF PICKED UP ON. AND SO WE DEVELOPED A SURVEY THAT TAKE ON THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLASTICS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER REGULATING EVERYWHERE FROM PLASTIC BAGS STYROFOAM CUPS, THOSE CLAMSHELL CONTAINERS YOU SEE OFTEN AND TAKE OUT AND PLASTIC STRAWS AND PLASTIC FORKS, KNIVES, SPOONS AND PUT THAT TOGETHER IN A SURVEY LOOKING REALLY VERY SIMPLY WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE REDUCED? WHAT TYPES OF REGULATION DO YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE REDUCTION OF THAT ITEM? AND SO WE HAVE BUSINESS SURVEY AND A CONSUMER SURVEY THAT PART OF THIS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COMPILED THE IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE TAILORED IT TO THE NEEDS EACH OF THEM AND SO WE DEVELOPED THE SURVEY PUT IT OUT THERE WE DID A LOT OF OUTREACH WITH DIFFERENT INDUSTRY GROUPS. YOU KNOW, WE DEVELOPED A LITTLE CARD WITH A QR CODES, YOU KNOW, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THE SURVEY AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME INITIAL DEADLINES WE EXTENDED APRIL 1ST AND I WOULD SAY SOME THE INITIAL DATA COMING BACK IS ARE ACTUALLY APRIL 3RD OH SO WE GOT 6062 CONSUMER RESPONSES WHICH WE WERE ABOUT IN 138 BUSINESS RESPONSES. AND SO WITH THIS INFORMATION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND IN GENERAL AND WE'RE STILL COMPILING THE INFORMATION IS THAT THERE'S A MUCH GREATER DEGREE SUPPORT FOR HAVING RESTRICTIONS BANS ON PLASTIC BAGS AND THE CLAMSHELL CONTAINERS AND PERHAPS STYROFOAM CUPS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO STRAWS AND THE PLASTIC FORKS, KNIVES AND SPOONS THE PUBLIC WAS MORE AND THE BUSINESSES MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF THE STRATEGY OF HAVING IT BY REQUEST.

AND SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEING THIS OVERALL TREND IN THE DATA WHICH I THINK IS VERY HELPFUL AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT NEXT STEPS WE'RE LOOKING AT WE NEED TO FINISH OUR ANALYSIS.

WE'D LIKE TO BRING BACK RESULTS AND THEN DEVELOP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THOSE BUT WE'RE KIND OF SEEING THAT TREND IS CERTAIN ITEMS PEOPLE ARE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF YOU KNOW RESTRICTING OR BANNING AND OTHERS BY TRYING TO REDUCE BY NOT HAVING THEM GIVEN OUT PEOPLE DON'T NEED THEM. SO WITH THAT I ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M SURE I'D LIKE TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THAT WORKING GROUP.

THEY DID A LOT MORE HARD WORK. I'M SORRY THAT JULIAN'S HERE TOO BUT I UNDERSTAND.

CONGRATULATIONS ARE IN ORDER FOR HER GOOD. BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST WORKING GROUPS I'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF SITTING IN ON WAS JUST LISTEN TO IT.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB. YEAH YOU SAID THE STRAWS IN THE THE UTENSILS.

YES THEY WOULD ONLY GET THOSE THAT REQUEST FAST. YES.

SO YOU REMEMBER THAT. YEAH I'M IN A RESTAURANT AND I'M CARRYING OUT FOOD AND THEY SOMETIMES THEY YOU DO YOU NEED UTENSILS? I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I'M TAKING HOME USING MY OWN. YEAH IF THEY SAY STRAWS I NEVER USED TO LIKE YOU I NEVER STRAWS . YEAH SO I MEAN A LOT OF TIMES ESPECIALLY FAST FOOD PLACES THEY JUST PUT IT IN THE BAG. OH YEAH RIGHT YEAH YOU KNOW OR THEY'LL GIVE YOU THE WITH THE STRAW IN IT AND SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS IT WOULD BE BY REQUEST SO YOU WOULDN'T AUTOMATICALLY OH ALL RIGHT AND SO YOU KNOW THE BENEFIT OF THAT KIND OF THE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT IS THAT BUSINESSES STAND ARE SEEING THE COSTS THAT THEY'RE PUTTING INTO THOSE ITEMS. SO RIGHT THERE'S KIND OF A WIN WIN SITUATION YOU KNOW FOR THOSE ITEMS AND YOU SAID SOME OF THE CLAMSHELLS OH YEAH IT'S ALMOST UBIQUITOUS TAKE OUT FOOD OR IN THE STYROFOAM CONTAINER AND THOSE ARE YOU KNOW THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WE SEE VERY OFTEN YOU KNOW ON THE ROADSIDES IN THE WATERWAYS. AND SO THAT'S AN ITEM THAT WE'VE SEEN MORE SUPPORT HAVING RESTRICTIONS RIGHT. YOU KNOW ON THOSE OKAY BECAUSE IN MY DISTRICT THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT PICKS UP TRASH TO 78 AND THEY SAID THE MAJORITY OF THE TRASH IS THERE STYROFOAM CUPS AND THE STYROFOAM CONTAINERS. SO WE'RE SAYING MAYBE NOT USING

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THOSE ANYMORE BUT WHAT BE WHAT WOULD GO TO THE CARDBOARD TYPE? THAT'S WHAT I WELL THEY THAT'S WHAT I HEAR FROM RESTAURANTS LIKE AN OLD TOWN LIKE IN A CARDBOARD BOX YEAH I MEAN THERE ARE ITEMS OUT THERE I THINK THEY THEY HAVE LIKE LIKE A COMPRESSED CARDBOARD.

I'VE SEEN THOSE I'VE SEEN CUPS THAT HAVE LIKE A DOUBLE THICKNESS OF THE OF THE CARDBOARD SO THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE BENEFITS OF THE PEOPLE LIKE THIS ARE FROM CUPS BECAUSE THEY DON'T SWEAT AS MUCH YOU KNOW THE DRINK STAYS COLD LONGER BUT YEAH SO THERE THERE ARE ITEMS THAT YOU OTHER ITEMS OUT THERE THAT YOU KNOW BUSINESSES USE SO WHERE DOES THIS GO FORWARD? WELL I GUESS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IS REVISING THE SURVEY AND THEN WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE WITH, YOU KNOW MORE DETAILED RESULTS OF THE SURVEY. AND THEN I THINK WHAT WE THINK THE COMMITTEE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS NEXT STEPS BE GIVEN WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED JUST THE BEST OF GO AHEAD.

YES. WHEN YOU SAY REVISING THE SURVEY, ARE YOU GOING TO RE SURVEY EVERYONE? OH NO, NO NOT REVISING THE SURVEY FINALIZING RESULTS AND THEN REVISING THE ORDINANCE. I'M SORRY. YEAH YEAH I HEARD THE SAME THING BUT I MIGHT HAVE SAID THAT I IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTION ? OKAY, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT. WE ARE A CREATURE OF HABITS AND AND ONCE WE GET TO DOING STUFF IT'S HARD FOR US TO CHANGE. YEAH. SO I JUST YOU KNOW BUT YOU SOMETIMES CHANGE IS NECESSARY SO WHATEVER WE TO DO THIS, MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, MOVE IT, MOVE THIS PROJECT ALONG. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME AROUND. LET'S GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME MOVING FORWARD YOU KNOW TELL YOU IF YOU WANT TO SAY NO. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR IT I THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW YOU TOOK CARE NUMBER EIGHT TO YOU READ IT. UH, THERE WAS A PLASTIC YEAH. SO YOU TOOK IT THE WAY.

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT]

OH, OKAY. WELL, I THINK I WAS ASKED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE SO LOCO GROUP COMMITTEE. YES, SIR. YOU OH, OKAY.

SO YOU TO DO THAT NOW. YES. OKAY.

YEAH AND I'LL BE BRIEF ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS BUT A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO THE SO COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER A SUBCOMMITTEE CALLED SO LOCO GROWTH COMMITTEE AND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT IS TRYING TO TAKE ALL THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND WITH THE GOAL POSSIBLY ADOPTING A MORE SHARED LAND USE VISION.

YOU KNOW, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE SUCH THINGS AGREED UPON GROWTH BOUNDARIES WE HAVE A SIMILAR AGREEMENT THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND SO THAT WAS OF THE CHARGES GIVEN TO THIS COMMITTEE WE MET AS STAFF THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS ON OUR OWN AT THE STAFF LEVEL AND WE REALIZED THAT WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THAT WAS A GOOD WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL BUSY, WE'RE ALL WE REPRESENT OUR OWN JURISDICTIONS AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH PLAN YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MET THE NEEDS OF ALL THE JURISDICTIONS WE ALSO SAW THE NEEDS OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THOSE WHO SIT SO LOCO THAT IT WOULD REALLY BENEFIT THEM TO BE PART THE PROCESS. AND SO WHAT WE PITCHED TO THE SO LOCO COMMITTEE AT THEIR LAST MEETING IN MARCH AND I'VE JUST A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW BUT SO WE DO HAVE STAFF REPRESENTING THE SUBCOMMITTEE BUT WE ALSO BROUGHT IN A LOT OF REGIONAL PARTNERS ESPECIALLY THOSE INVOLVED IN THE PROVISION OF OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES.

SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT FROM THE BEAUFORT JASPER WATER SEWER AUTHORITY WE HAVE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE, THE AIR STATION, THE MILITARY AND THEN ALSO THE CENTRAL LANDSCAPE REALLY LOOK IN THE LOWCOUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS LOOKING AT YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE THINGS COMPELLING US TO WORK TOGETHER AS A REGION AND HOW WOULD THAT BENEFIT US AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE THE CONSEQUENCE IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT? AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT I THINK IT'S OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING POPULATION GROWTH AND NOT JUST BEAUFORT COUNTY, OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR JASPER COUNTY THEY ARE THE ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COMMUNITIES OR COUNTIES IN THE COUNTRY. THEY'RE THE FASTEST GROWING IN THE STATE BECAUSE OF COURSE THEY'RE STARTING FROM A LOWER POPULATION.

SO THEY'RE KIND OF WHERE BEAUFORT COUNTY WAS, YOU KNOW, 25 YEARS AGO.

SO WE'RE SEEING THIS INCREDIBLE GROWTH AND AT THE TIME IT USED TO BE A FACTOR OF BEAUFORT

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COUNTY. IT'S MUNICIPALITIES NOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT GROWTH IS MOVING WESTWARD INTO JASPER AND HARTVILLE BUT IT IS STILL IMPACTING THE COUNTY EITHER IT'S IMPACTING OUR SERVICES, OUR ROADS AND SO THIS THIS NEED TO WORK TOGETHER IS SOMETHING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY COMPELLING FOR ALL OF US JUST GIVING A SNAPSHOT OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMIT ACTIVITY. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF PERMIT ACTIVITY AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE TOTAL WAS. I APOLOGIZE.

BUT AS YOU COULD SEE, HARTVILLE CITY OF HARTVILLE IS NOW REALLY TAKING THE LEAD IN NUMBER OF PERMITS. COUNTY AND BLUFFTON ARE, YOU KNOW, TRAILING BEHIND IT'S INTERESTING CITY OF BEAUFORT AND I THINK ALL OF US KNOW ANECDOTALLY JUST BY DRIVING BY BUT THEY'RE SEEING A VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

SO WE'RE SEEING SIGNIFICANT GROWTH JUST IN THIS SNAPSHOT OF 2023.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IN THE ASK THE QUESTION HOW LONG DID THIS CONTINUE? THAT'S WHERE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE REGION YOU IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM FOR FUTURE GROWTH IN TERMS OF APPROVED OR ENTITLED DEVELOPMENT.

SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IS THIS TREND OF MOVING WESTWARD IN THE EIGHTIES.

YOU KNOW, HILTON HEAD EIGHTIES AND NINETIES HILTON HEAD ISLAND WAS TAKING OFF IN THE MAIN LANDS IN THE BLUFFTON AREA WAS BEGINNING TO BE SUBDIVIDED. WE HAD THE GROWTH OF SUN CITY BUT WE'VE SEEN WESTWARD MOVEMENT AND SO BEAUFORT COUNTY YOU KNOW IN THE OKATIE AND BLUFFTON AREA WE MAY HAVE AND THIS IS JUST TAKING ALL THE THE SUBDIVISIONS KIDS THE CAPACITY WITHIN THOSE AND THE VACANT LOTS ABOUT 2500 OR SO ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS WHEN YOU GO TO BLUFFTON THAT NUMBER IS HIGHER WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REMAINING UNITS ALLOWED IN BUCKWALTER PALMETTO BLUFF NEW RIVERSIDE THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL ROUGHLY 5000.

BUT WHEN YOU GO OVER TO JASPER COUNTY THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW 35,000 ROUGHLY.

SO THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE CAPACITY IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW PERMITTED DEVELOPMENT PERMITTED ENTITLED LAND FOR THIS GROWTH. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY FOR NECESSARILY IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT, YOU KNOW, COMPELS US TO TRY TO HAVE A MORE OF A SHARED LAND USE VISION. I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH TRANSPORTATION. YOU KNOW, THE MORE GROWTH MEANS THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE FAILING INTERSECTIONS, FAILING ROADWAYS WHERE THESE ARE NEED TO BE WIDENED.

WE'RE STRUGGLING, YOU KNOW, WITH HOW TO FUND ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO I DON'T WANT TO DWELL ON THAT. THIS IS INTERESTING IN THE BEAUFORT JASPER WATER SEWER AUTHORITY IS REALLY LOOKING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT IN ORDER JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED GROWTH.

YOU KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT INVESTING A LOT MORE MONEY IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS THAN THEY HAVE THE LAST TEN YEARS, YOU KNOW, IN THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THEIR WATER.

SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS DEFINITELY IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS PAID THROUGH RATE PAY, YOU KNOW, RATE PAYMENTS OR CONNECTION FEES OR CAPACITY FEES. BUT IT DEFINITELY ADDS TO THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE MILITARY, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATION WITH THE THREAT OF ENCROACHMENT AND SO DEFINITELY A PARTNER AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE YOU KNOW WE'RE A MILITARY COMMUNITY WE ALSO SEE THEM AS A MAJOR DRIVER OF OUR OUR ECONOMY.

AND SO WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW THEIR THEM BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATIONS AND CONTINUE THEIR MISSION IN AND THIS SPILLS OVER INTO OTHER AREAS LIKE YOU KNOW WE HAVE A NURSING SHORTAGE IN THE STATE SO ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE COMPOUNDED WHEN YOU'RE IN A HIGH GROWTH AREA WHICH YOU IS ANOTHER REASON THAT COORDINATING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING WORKFORCE HOUSING IN AREAS WHERE MAKES SENSE THAT ARE THAT ARE NEAR AREAS OF EMPLOYMENT SO WITH ALL THIS THIS IS WHAT WE ASKED THE LOCAL GROWTH COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER WE HAVE A REAL YOU KNOW A TRACK RECORD OF REGIONAL IN OUR AREA GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE SOUTHERN REGIONAL AND NORTH AND REGIONAL PLANS THAT WE DID ABOUT A DECADE AND A HALF AGO WHICH LED TO SOME

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REALLY GOOD COOPERATION AMONG OUR MUNICIPALITIES REALLY SO LOOK SO LOCO IS AN OUTGROWTH OF THOSE EFFORTS. WE HAVE THE SOUTHERN LOWCOUNTRY STORMWATER MANUAL, WE HAVE THE JOINT LAND USE STUDY THAT WE DID THE MILITARY. SO ALL WE HAVE THIS GREAT TRACK RECORD AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO THE SELECT COMMITTEE IN APRIL IS SOME SORT OF REGIONAL GROWTH WORKSHOP THAT WILL ENGAGE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAKEHOLDERS SOMETHING WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE AN INDEPENDENT FACILITATOR REALLY KIND OF WORK YOU HOW THE ELECTED OFFICIALS STAKEHOLDERS WORK THROUGH SOME KNOW SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME EXERCISES THAT WOULD HELP YOU KNOW PUT TOGETHER WHAT WOULD THIS REGIONAL FRAMEWORK LOOK LIKE AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING KNOW AND THEN END PRODUCT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A ROADMAP TO GUIDE FUTURE GROWTH. IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAY BE A STANDALONE DOCUMENT NOT TALKING ABOUT A FULL BLOWN PLANNING EFFORT YOU KNOW LIKE A REGIONAL PLAN LIKE WE DID IN THE NORTHERN BUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD GUIDE US TO JOINT DECISIONS WHETHER BE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS THAT AGREE ON SHARING MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS OR GROWTH BOUNDARIES THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT WE'RE PUTTING THE BURDEN OF WHAT THAT VISION LOOKS LIKE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STAKEHOLDERS WHO PARTICIPATE IN THE EVENT SO THE COMMITTEE ASKED STAFF TO LOOK AT TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT WHAT WOULD LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF COST ? IS THIS A ONE DAY EVENT, A TWO DAY EVENT AND EVEN LOOKING AT HOW THAT COSTS MIGHT BE SHARED AND SO THERE SEEM TO BE A POSITIVE PERCEPTION OF THE IDEA AND SO NOW IT'S YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THE NEXT MEETING THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WITH THAT WILLING TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTION FOR MR. LAWSON? YES, SIR. WONDERFUL PRESENTATION GIVING A FORECAST OF WHAT THE GROWTH IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. CONNIE, WHY CAN'T WE HAVE PRESENTATION AND USE MINISTER? YES. YOU KNOW, PRETTY DRAMATIC WITH STATISTICS MORE THAN ONE NUMBER OF 45,000 ADDITIONAL AND WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR THAT? WELL, I KNOW WHAT YOU PROVE BUT WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME FOR BUILD? YEAH AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY YOU KNOW THERE'S ESPECIALLY IN HARTSFIELD THERE'S DIFFERENT MARKETS SO IT'S IT'S REALLY HARD TO GAUGE WHAT THE TIME FRAME IS ONE OF THE SOME OF THOSE APPROVED NUMBERS ARE TO THE GEORGIA SOUTH CAROLINA STATE LINE AND ARE MORE BUILDING OFF OF THE GROWTH THAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE POLAR PORT WENTWORTH AREA. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS TIMED WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO EXIT THREE IS A YOU KNOW SO THAT'S A NUMBER THAT WE CAN GET A LITTLE MORE OF A HANDLE ON. IT'S REALLY HARD TO GAUGE KNOW AND I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MOVE HERE AND I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY AND WHETHER THESE TRENDS WILL CONTINUE YOU PROJECTION IS THE NEXT CENSUS FOR COUNTY 2030 THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WELL I'M THINKING YEAH I HEAR NUMBERS SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 210,000 FOR COUNTY, OUR GROWTH IS ACTUALLY WE'RE STILL GROWING THAT BUT THE CURVE IS JUST STARTING TO LEVEL OFF A LITTLE MORE BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDING US IT WILL BE BIGGER.

YES. PERCENTAGE WISE, YEAH. OKAY.

THE THINGS THAT I WILL BECOME MORE PREPARED WITH THOSE NUMBERS NEXT TIME.

ANY OTHER QUESTION FOR MR. I HAVE A COMMENT. YES, SPEAKING I MEAN TALKING ABOUT GEORGIAN AND POOLER AND THAT AREA I THINK I READ THAT ONE IN EIGHT JOBS OR IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA'S RELATED TO THE SAVANNAH PORT AND THE ONE IN BRUNSWICK WHICH IS SCARY WHEN YOU THINK THAT ALL THOSE JOBS AND THE PEOPLE GOING TO LIVE IN SOUTH CAROLINA EVEN WORK AT THE SAVANNAH PORT OR BE ASSOCIATED WITH US IS SCARY ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE GROWTH THAT WILL COME WITH IS AND AS OUR CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE IT SAYS IT'S GETTING AND HARDER TO GET TO SAVANNAH THE GROWTH IS BETWEEN HERE IN SAVANNAH AND CERTAINLY IN THE YOU START GOING TO THE CHARLESTON AIRPORT RIGHT AND THE OF THE HYUNDAI PLANT AND BRYAN COUNTY THE EXPANSION OF THE GROWTH WITH THAT IS GOING TO EXACERBATE THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT WE'RE

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GOING TO NEED AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. YEAH IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS THE CLOSER YOU ARE TO THE STATE LINE IT DOESN'T THE DIRECT IMPACT A 170 ISN'T THIS GREAT ALTHOUGH IT MAY LEAD TO MORE PEOPLE FROM BEAUFORT GOING BACK AND FORTH BUT THE ARGENT WEST AND ARGENT EAST THOSE ARE ONES THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH.

YOU KNOW, JUST IN TERMS OF ANY OTHER QUESTION THE COMMENT YOU MADE EARLIER ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE GROW WE REALLY HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DEVELOP THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO HANDLE THE GROWTH BEFORE THE GROWTH COMES. SO TO ME THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD FOCUSING ON BUT ONE OF THE COMMENTS I WOULD MAKE YOU HAVE THE NEXT IN YOUR LAST SLIDE PRESENTATION THE CHARRETTE BRINGING THOSE ALL THESE ENTITIES TOGETHER THE ELECTED OFFICIAL COMING TOGETHER TO TALK I WOULD HOPE THAT PART OF YOUR STRATEGY WOULD BE TO IF YOU HAVE BREAKOUT SESSIONS TO AT THE TABLE ALL THE ALL OF EVERYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW EACH OTHER SITTING DOWN OH YEAH YOU KNOW COUNTIES MUNICIPALITIES VARIOUS AREAS SITTING DOWN AT A TABLE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. SO YOU GET A FEEL FROM EACH ENTITY THE PROBLEM THEY EXIST THAT THEY HAVE AND THE IMPACT IS GOING TO HAVE ON THE TOTAL REGION IN. A LOT OF TIMES WE GO TO THESE MEETINGS AND EVERYBODY FROM THE SAME COUNTY TOGETHER TRY TO DO ALL YOU CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT'S A REALLY

[9. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY AND TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROCUREMENT BY THE OPEN LAND TRUST FOR A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY KNOWN AS TROTTER’S LOOP - PIN# R200 004 000 0285 0000, R200 004 000 059A 0000, R200 004 000 065B 0000, R200 004 000 065A 0000, R200 004 000 065C 0000, R200 004 000 065D 0000, R200 004 000 0065 0000, R200 004 000 066A 0000, R200 004 000 0066 0000, R200 004 000 0067 0000, R200 004 000 0057 0000, R200 004 000 057C 0000, R200 004 000 057D 0000, R200 004 000 073A 0000, R200 004 000 073C 0000, R200 004 000 071A 0000, R200 004 000 0058 0000, R200 003 000 0016 0000 (FISCAL IMPACT: ($310,000 from the Green Space Program Fund Account #4706-10-0000-54400 Land Acquisition) - Mike McShane, Green Space Committee Chair]

COMMON I'LL MAKE IT JUST OKAY OKAY WE'LL MOVE THE AGENDA RIGHT ALONG THEM TO ITEM NUMBER NINE AND THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY AND TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROCUREMENT BY THE OPEN LAND TRUST FOR A COURSE AVIATION EASEMENT AND PROPERTY LOCATED IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY KNOWN AS THE TROTTER'S LOOP.

AND THERE IS THINK EIGHT DIFFERENT PARCEL IN THAT ONE 1818 PARCEL IN THAT ONE SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT PARCEL NUMBER BUT NOT TO EXCEED THE IMPACT OF $310,000 AND THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT A MOTION MS. BROWN I'LL SECOND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AN SECONDED ON FOR DISCUSSION DR. MR. MACHETE .

GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A PRIVATE LANDS CONSERVATION NEEDS BUT WE'VE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT FINDING A REALLY NICE BALANCE PUBLIC ACCESS AND PUBLIC BENEFIT IN AN AREA UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE THIS FAMILY IS EXERCISING ON A VOLUNTARY WILLING BASIS NEGOTIATION OF CONSERVATION AND THE GREENSPACE RECOMMENDS THAT ON THOSE 55 ACRES AS I SAID, 18 PARCELS.

I ASK YOU TO THINK A MOMENT THIS FAMILY REALLY WORKED TO BRING THOSE 18 PARCELS TOGETHER. THAT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT THAT DEMONSTRATES FRANKLY A HUGE SOMEONE IS BEING ENGAGED IN TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER REAL LIKE THAT FOR A RECREATIONAL PURPOSE. THAT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT MADE BY THAT FAMILY AND I'M PLEASED THAT THE FAMILIES ALSO PARTICIPATING IN THE 60% LEVEL VALUE OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT SO ASKING GREENSPACE TO PARTICIPATE AT LESS THAN OF THAT VALUE OF THE $310,000 IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FROM GREENSPACE ASK FOR YOU TO TO ACCEPT THAT AND THE COUNCIL AT YOUR EARLIEST CONVENIENCE. OKAY MR. MCGOWAN DO YOU CARE TO MAKE COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO WITH ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, WE SAT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION IT'S A VERY VALUABLE AND COMPLEX PIECE OF LAND AS DR. MCSHANE POINTED OUT IT'S COMPILED OVER THE YEARS AND THE PEOPLE WHO ON IT ARE MAKING A VERY GENEROUS OFFER THAT WE REALLY THINK WE SHOULD PROCEED ON USING THE USING THE ABILITY OF GREENSPACE TO LEVERAGE THEIR POSITION AND USE LESS OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN THE BANK TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING BY PARTICIPATING MORE FULLY WITH GENEROUS OWNER. SO YEAH I MEAN I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT EVERYBODY THERE ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTED IT AND SO DO I AND THANK YOU MCSHANE FOR THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. IT'S TELLING THAT.

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YES. I DON'T SEE THE BALANCE IN THE GREENSPACE FUND.

WE ASK THAT ON EVERY ACE. DO YOU HAVE THAT OR MAY I TURN IT? YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO AND KEEP I DON'T KNOW I COULD GIVE YOU AN APPROXIMATE WE HAVE A A GREENSPACE MEETING ON FRIDAY THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA FOR FRIDAY IS TO GET A DETAILED REPORT ON WHERE WE ARE IN GREENSPACE I CAN GIVE YOU SOME HOLISTIC NUMBERS THAT I THINK WE'LL ADDRESS SO $111 MILLION COLLECTED WE SPENT COMMITTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A 12 TO 14 MILLION AND THERE SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE STILL SOMEWHERE NORTH OF 95 MILLION.

OKAY IN THE FUND BUT I CAN I WILL HAVE THAT DETAILED INFORMATION ON FRIDAY KNOWING THAT STAFF WAS OUT TODAY THE THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT INFORMATION SHARED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS RIGHT AFTER THE GREENSPACE MEETING SO WE KNOW YOU HAVE ADEQUATE FUNDS SO THEN YES. YEAH. OKAY THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY.

THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION PLEASE BY REASON THE HAND IT IS UNANIMOUS.

[10. A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY AND TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROCUREMENT BY BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR FEE SIMPLE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY KNOWN AS THE NORTH WIDGEON TRACTS (PIN# R600 007 000 001A 0000, R600 007 000 0011 0000, R600 007 000 0010 0000, R600 007 000 0009 0000, R600 007 000 0008 0000, R600 007 000 0007 0000, R600 007 000 0006 0000, R600 007 000 0005 0000) (FISCAL IMPACT: $250,000 from the Green Space Program Fund Account #4706-10-0000- 54400 - Land Acquisition) - Mike McShane, Green Space Committee Chair]

THANK YOU. NUMBER TEN THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PRESENT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A DOCUMENT NECESSARY TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROCUREMENT BY THE COUNTY FOR FEE SIMPLE REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN UNINCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY KNOWN A NORTH REGION TRACKS AND THAT'S EIGHT I BELIEVE TRACTS IN THAT AS WELL THE EIGHT TRACKS NOT TO EXCEED FROM GREENSPACE 250 A QUARTER OF MILLION DOLLARS YES IS THAT A MOTION? I NEED A MOTION FIRST I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. OKAY SECOND SECOND OKAY SECOND. OKAY NO, NO MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. SO THIS IS SORT OF INTERESTING TO WHAT YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT HERE FROM ROB. THINK THIS THIS COUNTY TOOK A LEADERSHIP ROLE BEFORE OTHER COUNTY IN THE STATE ON CREATING A RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM POINT TO 2000 2000 SO 25 YEARS AGO HAD WE SAID TO YOU 2425 YEARS AGO THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE 40 SOMETHING THOUSAND UNITS MANY OF YOU WOULD HAVE LEFT? WELL, HERE WE ARE.

YEAH. AND SO THIS COUNTY FRANKLY IS SOMEONE WHO'S NOT A RESIDENT COUNTY BUT BENEFITS FROM YOUR WISDOM HERE IN THIS COUNTY IS IS REALLY SET THE STANDARD YOUR FIRST PROJECT WAS WHICH IN POINT THE CONSERVATION BANK WAS ALSO ONE OF ITS FIRST PROJECTS AT THE STATE LEVEL SO TONIGHT GOING TO HEAR A REQUEST BOTH FROM GREENSPACE AND RURAL CRITICAL LANDS TO FOLLOW BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE FUNDS.

BUT I THINK THIS IS THE MOST ELOQUENT WAY THAT YOU STARTED THE PROGRAM AT RURAL CRITICAL LANDS TWO IN THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LANDS PROGRAM TO HAVE THAT EVOLUTION GO TO GREENSPACE GOING FORWARD WHO'S ON THIS PROJECT FOR PUBLIC ACCESS TO BE DETERMINED AND WORK WITH YOUR STAFF IT'S ADJACENT OBVIOUSLY TO THE THE CURRENT PASSIVE PART OF THE CONSERVATION BANK BANK HAS ALREADY MADE A COMMITMENT OF THE SAME AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION ON THE ACCEPTANCE FROM GREENSPACE OF A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS AND YOU'LL TO ULTIMATELY THE JOINT BETWEEN RURAL CRITICAL LANDS GREENSPACE THE STATE CONSERVATION BAY IS FOR $2.7 MILLION 2.2 FROM RURAL CRITICAL LANDS THAT LEAVES A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY RURAL CRITICAL LANDS FOR A DECISION YOU ALL MAKE ON HOW YOU WANT TO TAKE THE 100 PLUS HUNDRED AND 70 ROUGHLY THOUSAND DOLLARS 250,000 FROM GREENSPACE AND HUNDRED 50,000 BE MATCHED BY THE STATE AND IT IS AND THEN THINK ABOUT ESPECIALLY WHERE IT'S LOCATED IT'S THE CENTER OF YOUR COUNTY ALONG A VERY BUSY CORRIDOR THAT SEEMED GROWTH PRESSURES ON BOTH SIDES AND AT THE SAME TIME THE WISDOM COUNTY HAS DEMONSTRATED AND WILL AGAIN ABOUT HOW YOU'RE WILLING TO INVEST IN YOUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND THAT IS GOING TO A TREMENDOUS ROLE. AND WHAT YOU SAW EARLIER TODAY ,THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THE YOU HAD THE WILLINGNESS AND FRANKLY THE COURAGE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IS NOW BEING HEARD ACROSS THE STATE THAT COUNTY IS WILLING TO INVEST IN ITS NEIGHBORING COUNTIES TO HELP KNOW THIS REALLY I THINK IS AN ELOQUENT WAY AS I SAY TO TRANSITION RURAL CRITICAL LANDS INTO GREENSPACE GOING FORWARD WITH THE FACT THAT IT WAS THE

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FIRST AND NOW THE LAST I DON'T THINK WE COULD HAVE SCRIPTED THAT 25 YEARS AGO BUT IT'S CERTAINLY WORKED REALLY WELL. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND RECOMMEND THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION GREENSPACE TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. ANY QUESTION ON THIS THIS IS ONE YES, SIR. JUST THE QUESTION WAS ASKED EARLIER HOW MUCH IS IN GREENSPACE AS OF LAST WEDNESDAY THERE'S $105,818,858.48. AND THAT IS THAT'S WHAT'S IN BANK. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMMITMENTS OUT THERE THAT WILL BETTER DO. THAT'S WHY SUGGESTING IS PROBABLY BETWEEN 95 AND 98 MILLION IS IN TERMS OF WHAT'S NOT BEING COMMITTED. THANK YOU.

YOU LOOK AT THAT TO PUT THAT BACK ON THE SCREEN FOR A SECOND, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED ANY OTHER COMMENTARY OTHER THAN TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHERE IT IS THAT WE BOUGHT IT IS BEING ADJACENT TO THE OTHER PART THERE AND THE LAND SURROUNDING THAT WELL BY THE STATE THAT THAT'S CORRECT CERTAINLY MARSH OWNED BY STATE SURROUNDING IT IS I THINK IT'S THE GENERAL PRINCIPLE IS THAT UNLESS YOU CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU'RE KINGS GROUND OWNERSHIP IS PRESUMED OWNERSHIP OF THE STATE. SO THAT BEING SAID YOU'VE GOT TREMENDOUS WATER QUALITY ASPECTS THAT ARE BEING PRESERVED IN THAT AREA NOT TO MENTION THE SCENIC ASPECT AND THEN TO THINK ABOUT THE PUBLIC ACCESS BE TO ENJOY THAT ON A RECREATIONAL BASIS. PICTURE WORTH THOUSAND WORDS YOU KNOW IT'S A IT'S ALMOST ALL WE'LL HAVE ALMOST ALL OF LEMON ISLAND ON THE CONSERVATION AND I CONSIDER THAT REALLY THE TRANSIT PLACE FOR NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BROAD THE TRUE TRANSITION YOU KNOW WHAT SHOULD THE ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER YOU KNOW DIFFERENT WORLD THE PLACE THAT IT'S A CENTER POINT FOR YOU'RE IT IS YEAH AND ANY ANY OTHER QUESTION I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S DEFINITELY WITH THE WITH THE PASSIVE PARK HAS BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS FOR FOR SOME YEARS YOU KNOW OH NO YOU CALL YOU CALL FOR THE QUESTION NO NO OH NO NOTHING. OKAY.

I'M SORRY IF NO OTHER I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AT THE VERY END BUT I'LL SAY THAT WE'LL WE'LL CARRY THIS MOTION SO THAT YOU CAN TALK AS YOU NO I MEAN ABOUT THIS THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW PLEASE INDICATE BY REASON YOU HEAR THOSE IN OPPOSITION SO YOU WANT TO TALK NOW? NO.

[11. AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF TAX MAP SERIAL NUMBERS TMS R600 007 000 001A 0000, R600 007 000 0005 0000, R600 007 000 0006 0000, R600 007 000 0007 0000, R600 007 000 0008 0000, R600 007 000 0009 0000, R600 007 000 0010 0000, AND R600 007 000 0011 0000, ALSO KNOWN AS NORTH WIDGEON FEE (Fiscal Impact: $2,200,000 plus closing costs from Beaufort County Rural and Critical Land Preservation Program Bond Referendum Account # 4500-80-0000-54400) - Amanda Flake, Natural Resources Planner ]

OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE DONE.

NO, NO, NO. WE GOT INTO THE OH WHICH IS NUMBER 11.

YES, NUMBER IS ALL ALL RELATED BUT AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PURCHASE OF TAX MAPS NUMBERS T OF 600 IS SEVERAL OF THOSE ALSO KNOWN AS NORTH REGION AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIRD IS NORTH RIDGE IN A FEW MINUTES AGO AND IT HAS A FISCAL IMPACT OF $202.2 MILLION AND THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PUT THIS ON THE FLOOR . SO OKAY.

MR. PASS AND THIS SECOND MR.. MR.. DAWSON SECOND IS ON THE FLOOR.

IT'S SLEEP YES. YES GO AHEAD. I DON'T MR. MCSHANE DID A WONDERFUL JOB AND I'M JUST HERE ON BEHALF OF ROME CRITICAL TO ASK FOR THE TO PUT 2.2 MILLION SHARE FROM ROME CRITICAL TO BY NORTH COLLISION WITH THE $250,000 COMING FROM GREENSPACE AND 250,000 COMING FROM THE SOUTH CONSERVATION BANK ONLY WELLS AND THEN THIS THAT 70 SHARED WITH YOU IS THE BUDGET WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT ONCE IF THIS GETS APPROVED THE 2.2 MILLION WILL BE LEFT IN ROME CRITICAL IS $172,826 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION TAB THANK YOU OKAY? I KNOW YOU HAVE ANSWERED THIS NEXT QUESTION WAS NOTED THAT WAS IT SO YOU'VE DONE THAT ANY OF THIS ANY OF MISS FLAKE AT THIS TIME? NO. THIS IS COMING DOWN TO THE END OF THE RULE AND CRITICAL AND PROBLEM EXPENDITURES ETC. AS AS IT LEADS TO ITS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.

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AND SO BEFORE WE CARRY THE OUT AS LITTLE SAID THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF AND CONTRACTORS OF THE RURAL AND CRITICAL LAND PROGRAM ALL THE LAND TRUST FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING IN BEING THE LEADER LIKE MR. MAY SHADE SAID OF HIM IS SEE ITSELF YOU SEE IT BECOME AN ENVY OF SOUTH CAROLINA IN NOT ONLY SOUTH CAROLINA BUT THE NATION AT ONE TIME FEDERAL FUNDS TO PROTECT MILITARY BASE WAS AVAILABLE BUT THERE WAS ONLY A FEW PROGRAMS AND FEW COUNTIES THAT COULD ACTUALLY MEET THE CRITERIA BEFORE IT WAS ONE OF THEM AND WE GOT A LOT OF FUNDING BECAUSE BY DEFAULT SO WE APPRECIATE NOW A LOT OF OTHER AREAS ARE DOING THE SAME THING AND IN COMPETING STUFF BUT WE GOT A LOT OF PROPERTY THE CONSERVATION BECAUSE AGAIN ESPECIALLY AROUND THE GREAT SEAL AREA STILL IF NO OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS I HAVE SOMETHING YES ABOUT THIS YOU WOULDN'T CARRY THE MOTION FOR US AND COME BACK OR YOU WANT TO KNOW BEFORE WE DO THE MOTION YOU'RE GOING THOSE ARE THE TABLE THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW TO APPROVE THE $2.2 MILLION UP TO $2.2 MILLION FOR THE NORTH REGION PROPERTY.

PLEASE INDICATE REASONING HERE. OKAY. OKAY MR..

YOU GO BACK TO THAT NUMBER YOU'RE AUTHORIZING HERE WHAT POINT IS 2.2 MILLION PEOPLE IS COMING OUT OF THE RULE AND COULD CLOSING COSTS GET YOU OKAY? IT IS UNANIMOUS. OKAY THAT'S IT. OKAY.

YOU THANK YOU. THE BARREL LANDING FEE IS THAT THE SMALLER TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THE BARREL LANDING FEE IS 438,000. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONLY LIKE 144,000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT NOW COSTING THEM THE AMOUNT. YEAH THE PURCHASE PRICE WAS 435,000 AND THEN PURCHASE PRICE YES. WAS 435,000 AND THEN THERE WAS SOME CLOSING COSTS. IT EQUATED TO ABOUT 30 $400 OH SO THE TOTAL COST THERE INCLUDES THE CLOSING COSTS AT THE TIME OF CLOSING. SO THAT'S A LOT WE BOOK A STAFF MEMBERS PARENTS IS THAT THAT IS THE LOT THAT WE PURCHASED FROM MICHAEL MICHAEL WHO MICHAEL OR YOUR FRIEND MR. ALL YES. AM I CORRECT YES? OKAY ALL RIGHT THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE RIGHT. OKAY. NO OTHER ITEMS I HAVE SOME THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IF I COULD VISIT YEAH BECAUSE YOU HERE AT THE FIRST ME RIGHT I THINK WE SHOULD ENTERTAIN AND GIVE IT TO OUR STAFF AND ATTORNEY AND LET THEM LOOK AT IT. IT'S GONE TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

OH IT HAS. YEAH, YEAH. OH OKAY THEN THEN WHAT HAPPENS.

IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN. OH THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THE REZONING. OKAY THE TICKET IT YOU'RE YEAH WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON OKAY I NEED NO OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WE EXHAUSTED IT THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED OKAY THANK YOU. IS 53 AND

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