Apr 07, 2025 Community Services Committee

[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

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WHICH IS 2:00. IF EVERYBODY PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS AND THE APRIL 7TH MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.

IF I CAN HAVE EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH THE CITIZENS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH, MURDER AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC NOTIFICATION OF THIS MEETING HAS BEEN PUBLISHED, POSTED AND DISTRIBUTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ]

AND IF I CAN GET A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. CAN I CALL THE VOTE ON THAT? ANY OBJECTION MOVING FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA? SEEING NO OBJECTION.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES- March 3, 2025 ]

MAY I GET A TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 3RD 2025 MEETING? OH DON'T EVERYBODY JUMP ON ONE MOTION. OKAY, SO THAT MAKES THE MOTION . I'LL SECOND 20 SECONDS. ANY OBJECTION TO THE APPROVAL

[6. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ]

GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS KEVIN DUKES.

I AM A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM OF ABADIE HERE IN BEAUFORT AND I'M SPEAKING TO YOU THIS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS MORNING I HAVE SUBMITTED A REZONING PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS PINE ISLAND, THE PINE ISLAND DOWNS ZONING PLAN INVOLVES VARIOUS SERVICES SECTORS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE, INCLUDING PARKS AND RECREATION, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND THE LADIES ISLAND SAINT HELENA FIRE DISTRICT.

WE HAVE PRESENTED A COMPREHENSIVE NARRATIVE TO ENSURE THAT ALL INFORMATION IS PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL AT THE SAME TIME FROM THE BEGINNING GUARANTEEING A TRANSPARENT AND FAIR EVALUATION OF THE PLAN INCLUDED WITH OUR APPLICATION IS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT SPECIFICALLY SECURES THE OBLIGATIONS OUTLINED IN THE DOWN ZONING APPLICATION GUARANTEEING COMPLIANCE AND ENFORCEMENT WITH THE PLAN.

SOME GENERAL SPECIFICS ABOUT THE PLAN FROM A COUNTY WIDE PERSPECTIVE THAT I'M SURE EVERYBODY WILL BE INTERESTED THERE'S A 66% REDUCTION IN DENSITY THE SITE THAT'S THE REMOVAL OF 100 HOMES FROM THE LANDSCAPE THAT IS ALSO LEADING TO A 60% REDUCTION IN TRAFFIC TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND A SAVINGS BASED ON THE NATURE OF THE PLAN OF $1,000,000 A YEAR TO OUR SCHOOLS FROM THE REDUCTION STUDENTS AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME RAISING REVENUES TO SCHOOLS BECAUSE OF THE NON PRIMARY RESIDENT TAX COLLECTION THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT 360 ACRES WILL BE PERMANENTLY PRESERVED OPEN SPACE THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION OF 90% OF FORMIDABLE DOCKS PROTECTING OUR WATERWAYS AND ENSURING THE SCENIC VIEWS ALSO A REMOVAL OF A MILLION SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT'S ROOFS, ROADS AND DRIVEWAYS ADDITIONALLY VERTICAL STRUCTURES ON 365 ACRES OF THE SITE WILL BE MOVED TO 150 FEET FROM THE NORMAL 60 FOOT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT PRESERVES THE SCENIC AGAIN AND PREVENTS RUNOFF INTO OUR SURROUNDING WATERWAYS. NOW IN ADDITION TO THOSE SPECIFIC BEAUFORT COUNTY WIDE THERE ARE SOME VERY SPECIFIC LOCAL BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY OF SAINT HELENA SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE PARCEL OF LAND UNDER CONTRACT IN THE CORNERS COMMUNITY WHICH WE ARE WILLING TO DONATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMUNITY AND RECREATIONAL CENTER.

IN ADDITION TO THE DONATION OF THE LAND WE PROPOSED CONTRIBUTING CLOSE TO $3 MILLION INITIALLY TO GO TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION AND FUNDING OF THAT COMMUNITY AND RECREATION CENTER SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS OF SAINT HELENA HAVE MADE VERY CLEAR IS SOMETHING THEY WANT. ADDITIONALLY OVERALL THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF OVER 100 MILLION IN PRIVATE INVESTMENT ONTO SAINT HELENA THE LARGEST THERE'S EVER BEEN AND IT WILL CREATE 35 TO 70 FULL TIME JOBS CLOSE TO WHERE INDIVIDUALS LIVE ON SAINT HELENA THE DOWN ZONING PLAN HAS BEEN GUIDED AND DEVELOPED THROUGH LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC AFTER AN EXTENSIVE THREE YEAR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INCLUDING OVER 2000 TOUCH POINTS,

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THANK YOU. THIS IS ALL PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION, IS THAT CORRECT FROM YOUR WHAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED THAT IS THAT IS THE APPLICATION WHICH HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THIS MORNING THERE'S PART OF THAT IS ALSO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WHICH IS AN ATTACHMENT AND WE'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO SEND ELECTRONIC COPIES EVERYBODY AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE A QUESTION.

I DIDN'T HEAR HIM. JUST ONE THING. I JUST IF OKAY WITH YOU THAT'S WHY I'M WE GOT 15 MINUTES OF MATH DIGEST CAN YOU ME ABOUT THE 90% STOCKS WHAT YOU SAY SO YES SO OUR PROPOSAL IS A REDUCTION IN DOCS FROM DIE OF A REDUCTION IN WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER A SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IN A RESIDENTIAL CONTEXT AND THAT'S OUR PLAN HAS EIGHT DOCS THIS IS 437 ACRES ALL OF WHICH IS ON MOST OF WHICH IS ON DOC APPLE WATER AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT REDUCTION COMES FROM. YOU'LL SEE IN OUR PLAN THERE IS A LETTER CRAIG REEVES WHO I'M SURE ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT RUNS THE WORKING UP VILLAGE CREEK AND HE'S WRITTEN A LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THIS PLAN PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE DOC ISSUE AND BECAUSE THOSE DOCS INTERFERE WITH HIS NAVIGATIONAL WATERWAY AND HE IS VERY, VERY HE WAS BEHIND THIS PLAN BECAUSE OF THOSE DOCKS AND REMOVAL OF THOSE DOCKS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I ALSO WANT TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT HE JUST MENTIONED MR. REEVES.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IT RECENTLY MR. REES WAS JUST ON FOX NEWS ABOUT THE TARIFFS AND SHRIMPING AND THIS HAS GONE TO A NATIONAL LEVEL ON NATIONAL TELEVISION.

SO I WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE SUBSTANCE. THANK FOR THAT.

THANK YOU TO JONES. ALL RIGHT, SINGH. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THOUGH? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. WE DO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME SET

[7. ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT – Audra Antonacci-Ogden, ACA ]

WORK. WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME OF THE OTHER NEWER ON THE COUNCIL AND MIGHT NOT KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS.

AND WE WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO.

OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE QUALITY SERVICES AND SUPPORT TO THE INDIVIDUALS WE SERVE AND FACILITATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO LIVE PRODUCTIVELY AND INCLUSIVELY IN THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE AS ADVOCATES FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND SPECIAL NEEDS HELPING THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR CAREGIVERS. THIS IS OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM.

ALL OF US HAVE BEEN WITH THE AGENCY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. WE'RE A DEDICATED GROUP OVER THERE. WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO CHILDREN AND ADULTS WITH SEVERE AND LIFELONG DISABILITIES AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT TO BRING THAT THAT IS LIFELONG.

ONCE YOU'RE PART OF US, YOU'RE WITH US. WE SERVE PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES RELATED DISABILITIES. HIGH RISK INFANT AND CHILDREN.

PEOPLE ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER AND PEOPLE WITH HEAD AND SPINAL CORD INJURIES.

LIKE ALL PEOPLE INDIVIDUALS SERVED BY DSS AND NEED TO BE SEEN FIRST AND FOREMOST AS VALUED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THEY WANT ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU AND I WANT FROM THE COMMUNITY. THEY WANT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THEY WANT TO LEARN.

THEY WANT TO GROW. THEY WANT TO EXPERIENCE LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP.

OUR AGENCY SERVES INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL AND RELATED DISABILITIES AND BECAME A COUNTY DEPARTMENT IN 1986 AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF DISABILITIES SPECIAL NEEDS AND OF COURSE OUR WHAT WE COUNSEL WE HAVE 113 STAFF ALL HAVE TB SCREENINGS AND OPTIONAL F HEPATITIS B VACCINATIONS. ALL OF US ARE TRAINED ANNUALLY IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT

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WE SERVE APPROXIMATELY 200 CHILDREN AGE BIRTH TO FIVE AND THEIR FAMILIES.

WE RECEIVE REFERRALS FROM HOSPITALS, PEDIATRICIANS US TEACHERS AND DAYCARE PROVIDERS AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES IN THE HOME AND IN THE COMMUNITY SETTINGS AND WE PROVIDE SUPPORT TO FAMILIES IN CRITICAL NEEDS. CHILDREN COMING OUT OF THE NICK YOU THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AND COORDINATE FOR A RELATED LIKE PHYSICAL OR SPEECH THERAPY AND SOME PICTURES OF OUR EARLY INTERVENTIONIST OUR NEXT PROGRAM WE CALL CASE MANAGEMENT THEY ARE THE GATEKEEPERS.

THEY PROVIDE REFERRALS, LINKER LINKAGE AND MONITOR SHIP OF SERVICE DELIVERY.

WE SERVE OVER 600 INDIVIDUALS IN THE ENTIRETY OF COUNTY FROM HILTON HEAD DOWN TO SHELDON AND OUT TO FRED CASE MANAGERS COLLABORATE WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES LIKE VOC REHAB, DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, MEDICAL PROVIDERS, FAITH BASED COMMUNITIES ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS IN OUR RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM WE BELIEVE THAT INDIVIDUALS SHOULD LIVE IN THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE PLACEMENT POSSIBLE STAFF REPRESENT TO ENSURE SAFETY AND MEET THE INDIVIDUAL'S NEEDS. THEY CANNOT MEET ON THEIR OWN AND WE'RE ALWAYS PROVIDING TRAINING. THAT'S THE KEY OF OUR SERVICES IN RESIDENTIAL IS TO PROVIDE TRAINING IN THE HOPES THAT SOMEONE CAN MOVE TO A LESS RESTRICTIVE PLACEMENT. WE CURRENTLY SERVE 51 INDIVIDUALS.

FOUR OF THOSE ARE IN 11 HOMES SERVE INDIVIDUALS AS A FAMILY UNIT.

ONE HOME IS AN INDIVIDUAL LIVES IN OUR OWN HOME WITH SUPPORTED STAFF AND THEN WE HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS THAT RESIDE IN THEIR OWN APARTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY HAVE A STAFF TRAINED TO SUPPORT AS THEIR NEEDS. AND THESE ARE SOME OF OUR HOMES LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND OUR ADULT DAY. WE CURRENTLY SERVE 93 INDIVIDUALS. THEY RECEIVE A VARIETY OF SERVICES AND THE COMPLEXITY THE DIVERSITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS WE SERVE REQUIRES US TO ADJUST DAILY ON WHAT KIND OF SERVICES WE SUPPORT FOR OF THE INDIVIDUALS WE'VE BECOME LIKE THEIR FAMILY.

THEY REALLY LIGHT UP WHEN THEY SEE US AND WE REALLY LIGHT UP WHEN WE SEE THEM THEY ARRIVE EVERY MORNING. 65% OF THE INDIVIDUALS WE SUPPORT IN THE DAY PROGRAM ARE INDIVIDUALLY EMPLOYED AND ARE SOME OF OUR LOVELY FOLKS IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT AND ON SOME OUTINGS THEY'VE BEEN TO RECENTLY. HOW ARE WE FUNDED? DISABILITY AND SPECIAL NEEDS IS PRIMARILY FUNDED THROUGH MEDICAID WAIVER BILLING.

THERE ARE ALSO SOME PROGRAMS THAT ARE SOLELY STATE FUNDED FAMILY SUPPORT AND WHAT IS A.

PRIOR TO 1981 MEDICAID FUNDED SERVICES WERE PRIMARILY AVAILABLE IN INSTITUTIONAL SETTINGS SO PEOPLE WERE IN INSTITUTIONS NURSING HOMES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES NECESSARY FOR THEM TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WERE NOT AVAILABLE UNDER A WAIVER PROGRAM A STATE CAN WAIVE THOSE MEDICAID REQUIREMENTS OF LIVING IN AN INSTITUTION AND THAT ALLOWS THE STATE TO PROVIDE CARE FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE BE ELIGIBLE AND WE PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE WITH THREE OF THE HOME AND COMMUNITY BASED WAIVER SERVICES. AGAIN, THIS IS HOW AN INDIVIDUAL WOULD APPLY FOR SERVICES FOR BIRTH TO THREE THEY WOULD CALL WAITING AT AGE THREE AND UP THEY WOULD CALL THE INTAKE ELIGIBILITY. BUT THE KEY WE WANT TO BRING UP HERE IS THAT THE PROCESS TO RECEIVE A WAIVER CAN TAKE MANY, MANY YEARS. THERE ARE EXTENSIVE WAITING LISTS IN SOUTH CAROLINA YEARS, YEARS MORE THAN 20,000 PEOPLE ARE ON WAITING LISTS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AT POINT. IF I MAY INTERJECT JUST FOR A MOMENT.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN DO TO HELP ALLEVIATE THAT AND COORDINATE WITH OUR STATE DELEGATES OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO IF YOU MEET WITH YOUR STATE DELEGATES, LET THEM KNOW OF THE PROBLEM. LET THEM KNOW THAT THE WAIVER MEDICAID SITUATION IS VERY, VERY HARD FOR OUR FAMILIES TO NEGOTIATE. 20,000 PEOPLE IN SOUTH CAROLINA ARE WAITING LIST TO RECEIVE SERVICES AND THERE IS LITTLE MOVEMENT.

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ANY IDEA HOW MANY OF YOU COULD TELL ME IF I DID MY MATH CORRECTLY? 543. CAN I SAY ONE THING. TIMING IS PERFECT.

WE HAVE A COUPLE REPS HERE FROM THE MS. ORGANIZATION THAT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT GRANTS THAT WE MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR. I HOPE THEY'RE HERE TAKING NOTES RIGHT.

AND MAYBE THEY CAN HELP AS WELL. I MEAN THEY GET THE FEDERAL DOLLARS GOING TO SHARE WITH US HOW WE CAN DO THAT. MAYBE THIS IS ANOTHER WAY WE CAN YOU. WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANTED TO SPEAK WITH Y'ALL TODAY IS THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL IN A PUBLIC SETTING TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE TO AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. THIS IS FANTASTIC AND YOU'RE SITTING WITH ANOTHER GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS TOO FROM BEAUFORT JASPER.

HOUSING TRUST THAT PUT THEIR THINKING CAPS ON AS WELL. I MEAN THEY'RE QUITE CREATIVE SO THANK YOU. OH YOU'RE WELCOME. BUT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY ONE IN SIX CHILDREN IDENTIFIED WITH SOME SORT OF DISABILITY. SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS A DISABILITY, THEY'RE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE IN YOUR SUNDAY SCHOOL, AT YOUR BASEBALL GAME. THE PREVALENCE OF AUTISM IN THE GENERAL POPULATION IS ONE IN 36 AND IT'S NEARLY FOUR TIMES MORE COMMON IN BOYS THAN IN GIRLS. WE COLLABORATE WITH COUNTY, COSEY KAZU, COASTAL ENVIRONMENTAL MEMORIAL HOSPITAL ALL SORTS AGENCIES TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RAMPING SERVICES AROUND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED US, SHE SAYS.

WE ARE THE ONLY DISABILITY AGENCY IN SOUTH CAROLINA THAT IS A COUNTY DEPARTMENT AND THAT IS THANKS TO THE WORK THAT WAS DONE BY COUNTY COUNCIL MANY YEARS AGO TO ABSORB US THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF COUNTY AS A DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD, A NON-GOVERNMENT TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS WE HAVE A HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE.

THEY PROTECT THE PEOPLE RECEIVING TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE BEST QUALITY SERVICES SHOULD THERE BE A NEED FOR SOMETHING LIKE AN INVASIVE PROCEDURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OUR FOLKS CAN'T PERHAPS ARTICULATE AS WELL AS OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ABLE FOUNDATION THAT SUPPORTS US. THERE ARE IF I WERE 1C3 ORGANIZATION THAT MEETS NEEDS OF MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND OTHER PLACES.

SO MOVING FORWARD IN OUR DAY PROGRAM WE WANT TO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, WE WANT TO INCREASE COMMUNITY INCLUSIVITY AND PROMOTE THE INDEPENDENCE OF OUR INDIVIDUALS . FOR A RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE SELF-DETERMINED CHOICES LIFESTYLES AND INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND FOR OUR CASE MANAGEMENT EARLY INTERVENTION WE WANT CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY AND SERVE MORE ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND INCREASE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS WITH THE LOCAL PROVIDERS.

THERE ARE CONSTANT AND CONTINUOUS CHANGES IN FEDERAL AND STATE GUIDELINES.

WE STRUGGLE WITH WORKFORCE STABILIZATION. WE WANT TO SEE EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR STAFF AND WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES IN AND WHAT WE DO. IF YOU UNDERSTAND YOU RELATE. IF YOU RELATE YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE MORE SENSITIVE TO THE NEEDS OF THE INDIVIDUALS WE SERVE AS CLIENTS STATED TO OUR DAY PROGRAMS DIRECTOR TERRY THAT I HAVE A DIFFERENT ABILITY NOT A DISABILITY SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT OUR INDIVIDUALS VERY STRONG OPINIONS AND HOW YOU CAN HELP PROMOTE THE PRESENCE AND IMPORTANCE OF THE SERVICES AND PROVIDES PERHAPS VOLUNTEER ON A BOARD OR COMMITTEE AND AGAIN WE WANT TO THANK YOU COUNTY COUNCIL FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU DO TO SUPPORT COUNTY CITIZENS WHO HAVE INTELLECTUAL AND RELATED DISABILITIES.

THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE AND SHARE WITH WHAT YOU DO. ARE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NOT A QUESTION, JIM, JUST A STATEMENT. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE WORK OF THE FOR SIX YEARS NOW. THEY HAVE AN EXCEPTIONAL PROGRAM IN RESIDENCES THAT THEY'VE CREATED FOR THE NAVY FOR PEOPLE IN PROGRAM WITHIN THOSE PICTURES CAME UP AND WENT PRETTY QUICKLY BUT IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF THE EXPERIENCE THERE IS REALLY EXCEPTIONAL SAY IT'S A DEPARTMENT THAT WE CAN BE QUITE PROUD OF AND I OFFER MY CONGRATULATIONS THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO COME BY AND VISIT DAY PROGRAM AT SOME POINT IN TIME PERHAPS VISIT OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMES AND SEE MEET OUR INDIVIDUALS YOUR CONSTITUENTS AS WELL IN EVEN INTERVIEW QUESTIONS AND THOSE.

I'M GLAD YOU OFFERED THAT BECAUSE I ACTUALLY GOT AN IMPROMPTU TOUR WHEN I WAS DOING SOME WORK OVER THERE AND IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE OUR FACILITY AND PROGRAM.

QUESTION ABOUT THE MEDICAID AND WHEN YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY IS THE CHICKEN AND THE

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SO THAT'S PROBABLY A WAITING LIST TO VISIT. I WOULD IMAGINE SOCIAL SECURITY'S WAITING LIST PRETTY HIGH AS WELL. LIKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH, THANK YOU. OLDER IS ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOUR ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR REPORT? NO SIR.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A FEW MEMBERS OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM WE HAVE BILL LOVE.

HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT. WANDA SHE'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND SHEREE SCOGGINS SHE IS THE FOR CASE MANAGEMENT AND EARLY INTERVENTION.

[8. SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES PRESENTATION ON COEXISTING WITH WILDLIFE - First Sgt. Juston Gantt, SCDNR ]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE. NEXT IS ITEM EIGHT WHICH IS A PRESENTATION FROM SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES ON COEXIST WITH WILDLIFE I BELIEVE FIRST SERGEANT NAT, IS THAT CORRECT? GANTT SORRY.

GOOD MORNING SIR. THANK I'M JUST GOING TO INTRODUCE JUSTIN GANTT.

HE IS A FIRST SERGEANT FOR REGION FOUR. HE'S GOING TO TALK TO YOU FOR A FEW MINUTES AND MOSTLY WITH THE PUBLIC WHO ARE WATCHING ONLINE ON WITH WILDLIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEN HE'LL BE AVAILABLE. ANSWER ALL THE TOUGH QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, JOHN. APPRECIATE GOOD AFTERNOON. LIKE YOU SAID MY NAME JUST AGAIN DRAFT FOR BEAUFORT FOR SOUTH CAROLINA NATURAL RESOURCES I I KNOW IT'S THIS TIME OF YEAR IS USUALLY SEASONAL WHEN WE HAVE THE ALLIGATOR MATING SEASON I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY A BIGGER AND SOMETHING YEAH SO THESE SIGNS HERE WOULD BE WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE ACROSS SOME OF THE PONDS OR AREAS THAT ALLIGATORS WOULD KIND OF HAVE HABITATS AT OR THEY'VE BEEN THERE OR THE HABITAT IS POSSIBLY SUSTAINABLE ENOUGH TO HAVE ALLIGATORS IN IT WHICH IS USUALLY ANY TYPE OF BODY OF WATER.

IT COULD BE FRESHWATER MANY MANY ANY SALTWATER BRACKISH OR MARSH AREA SO SO THEY GOT A LOT OF ABUNDANCES SO PRETTY MUCH WHAT HAPPENS IS A LOT OF TIMES THE THE ALLIGATORS THIS TIME OF YEAR DURING MATING THE SMALLER ONES WILL GET KIND OF PUSHED OUT BULLY PERCEIVED BY THE ADULTS SO THEY KIND OF TEND TO MOVE AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

SO YOU MAY SEE SOME PLACE THAT YOU'RE NOT NORMALLY LIKELY TO SEE THEM LIKE THIS PARKING AND SUCH AND AS OF NATURE WE DO HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR AS FOR THE NUISANCE ALLIGATORS IF IT'S IN A PUBLIC AREA THAT DOES NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF OR HANDLED THE STATE HAS A CONTRACT WITH A WILDLIFE NUISANCE OPERATOR THAT WOULD COME OUT TO ANOTHER AGENCY THEY WILL CONTACT THEM.

THEY'LL HAVE TAGS THEY CAN THEN REMOVE ALLIGATOR IF IT'S DEEMED TO BE HARM TO THE PUBLIC AND HOW THAT KIND OF COMES ABOUT OCCURS IS THAT A LOT OF SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S THERE'S LOCATIONS WHERE THOSE ALLIGATORS ARE AT IT COULD BE PEOPLE COULD BE FEEDING THEM COULD BE DUMPING CARCASSES FOR FISH OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE AND .

THEY JUST GET ASSOCIATED WITH THE HUMANS GAME WITH FOOD. SO THAT'S WHEN THE AGGRESSION KIND OF COMES ABOUT. SO FOR THE MOST PART THEY'RE NOT DANGEROUS.

YOU NEED TO BE AWARE THE DISTANCE YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN FROM ANY BODY OF WATER CAN POSSIBLY HAVE AN ALLIGATOR IN ITS OR YOU ASSUME THAT THERE IS IN THERE SO I BELIEVE ON OUR WEBSITE ONLINE IF YOU GO NORTHERN SC DOT GOV CLICK ON NUISANCE YOU CAN CLICK ON SPECIES THAT GOES FOR ANY TYPE OF SPECIES THAT WE MAY HAVE LIVES IN THAT STATE YOU CAN CLICK ON ALLIGATOR SPECIFICALLY AND IT'LL SHOW YOU THERE'S A BROCHURE FOR NUISANCE ALLIGATORS TO INSPECT WHAT TO DO. SOME QUESTIONS LIKE Q&A IS ON THERE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED. IT GIVES YOU KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE WITH THAT. ALSO IF THERE'S A NUISANCE ALLIGATOR SAY IN A SUBDIVISION YOU CAN CONTACT THE APIARIES ANYTHING LIKE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE TAGGED. IF THEY DON'T THEY CAN CONTACT .

OUR SOUTH EAST ALLIGATOR COORDINATOR WHICH BE OUT OF THE WEB CENTER IN HAMPTON AND THEY CAN ACCUMULATE TAGS THROUGH THEM JUST TO KEEP ON HAND BEFORE IT BECOMES AN ISSUE THAT WAY WOULD YOU HAVE TO CONTACT SOMEBODY THEY CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE IT REMOVED.

OKAY. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE? OKAY. SO I LIVE IN A VERY BIG WAY. YOU'RE PROBABLY USED TO SUN CITY HILTON HEAD. YES, MA'AM. AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ALWAYS GET IS CAN YOU GET RID THESE ALLIGATORS SO YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT? WE KNOW WE CAN'T. RIGHT. AND WHAT WHAT DO YOU DO? WE KEEP TELLING PEOPLE THEY SEE A BIG I JUST A BIG GIANT ALLIGATOR LYING IN THE STREET JUST LIKE CHILLIN OUT. RIGHT. AND SO PEOPLE WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY SEE THAT THE BEST THING TO DO IS KEEP YOUR DISTANCE FROM IT IF THEY'VE BEEN HERE LONG BEFORE WE WERE SO GIVE THEM THEIR SPACE A LOT OF TIME YOU SEE THEM ON LAND THEY ARE GOING TO BE SUNBATHING SO THEY GOT THEY ARE REPTILES SO THEY GOT TO GET THEIR BODY TEMPERATURES

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THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO KIND OF HANDLE THAT TYPE OF SITUATION LIKE A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE DEAL WITH IS USUALLY THE PRIVATE SECTOR YOU KNOW SO IF YOU HAD TERMITES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN YOUR HOUSE YOU'D CALL IT IT'S A PROBLEM YOU CALL IT YOU'D CALL A LIKE PEST CONTROL COMPANY SO THERE'S THERE'S NUISANCE WILDLIFE AND OPERATORS THAT HAD THE SAME TYPE OF COMPANIES THAT COME HERE AND TRAPPERS GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.

THEY CAN MOVE LIKE BATS OR ANY TYPE OF ANIMAL MAYBE GET IN YOUR ATTIC OR CRAWL SPACES SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE UTILIZED FOR. SO BECAUSE OF DUE TO ALL OF THE GROWTH AROUND US PARTICULARLY HARTVILLE AND ALL THE CLEAR CUTTING WE'RE SEEING MORE COYOTES AND FERAL PIGS WHICH PEOPLE ARE NOT FOND OF EITHER BECAUSE RUN YOUR LAWN SO DOES DNR DO ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE? THERE'S CERTAINLY THERE'S NOT THERE'S NOT A CLOSED SEASON ON FERAL PIGS. SO AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN THE COUNTY OR SUPPLY ORDINANCE THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY IS AN AREA YOU CAN ACTUALLY HUNT OR YOU CAN HAVE SOME TRAP OUT TRAP THERE AND THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO KIND OF ERADICATE THEM BECAUSE THEY DO POPULATE PRETTY I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY FERAL HOGS IN BEAUFORT ON THIS SIDE BUT IF THEY COME IN OVER CLOSER SAVANNAH RIVER WAY THEY USUALLY ARE I THINK THERE ARE SOME FERAL HOG POPULATIONS OVER THERE SO THAT WOULD BE A WAY YOU CAN KIND OF ERADICATE SOME OF THESE FOR BEING A PRIVATE TRAPPER IF IT'S IN LIKE A NEIGHBORING AREA.

WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THOSE RIGHT. AND THE COUNTIES WILL BE THE SAME WAY YOU CAN HAVE A DROP OR SOMETHING NOT GOING TO MOVE AND IT'S NOT A SEASONAL NEWS AS WELL. SO YOU CAN YOU CAN YOU CAN REMOVE THEM AS WELL.

OH AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY LAST QUESTION BUT WE RECENTLY RECEIVED SOME ABOUT EXPANDING FENCING ALONG WATERWAYS YOU KNOW, BODIES OF WATER.

DOES THE FENCE ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING? ARE THEY ABLE TO CLIMB THEY ARE ABLE TO CLIMB OR DIG UNDERNEATH THE FENCE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. I MEAN UNLESS VERY TALL YOU KNOW THERE'S ALLIGATORS IN PARTICULAR. RIGHT? RIGHT YEAH.

ALLIGATOR. ALLIGATOR THEY COULD BURROW UNDERNEATH OR YOU KNOW, CLIMB OVER IT AND BE TO ESSENTIALLY IF YOU'RE ABOVE OUR WATER IS AN ASSUMPTION OF RISK THERE'S TO BE A GATOR AND YOU GOT TO WATCH OUT, RIGHT? YEAH.

IN REGARDS TO FENCING OR NOT SO YOU COULD IN THERE YOU KNOW AND AT THAT POINT IF IT'S AN AREA THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE THEIR DESERT AS NUISANCE TAGS COULD POSSIBLY COMING OUT DID YOU EVER THINK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GOOD THINKING SO YOU KNOW THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE THE

[9. DETENTION CENTER UPDATE - John Robinson, ACA ]

ALL RIGHT NOW WE'RE MOVING INTO ITEM WHICH IS A DETENTION CENTER UPDATE FROM ASSISTANT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR JOHN ROBINSON. OKAY, THANKS SO MUCH, FIRST SERGEANT. APPRECIATE IT. ALSO I'D LIKE TO THANK COLONEL GRANT COLONEL GRANT IN THE ROOM TODAY. EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON MANY OF YOU GOT TO TOUR THE DETENTION CENTER AND SEE WHAT SOME OF THE OPERATION IS LIKE AND I THINK THAT WAS A VERY INFORMATIVE GROUP. SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU ATTENDING AS WELL AS AS COLONEL BRANDT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ONE OF OUR AC DC REQUIREMENTS THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TOUR OUR FACILITY SO WE GET TO CHECK BOX OFF.

SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD FOR US THIS MORNING. OKAY.

SO I'VE PREPARED A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THANK YOU SIERRA THIS MORNING TO OR THIS AFTERNOON JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE ARE. SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF FIRST I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OPERATIONAL SECURITY THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MISSION OF THE DETENTION CENTER. I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY CURRENTLY SO PROJECTS THAT WE WERE FUNDING IN THE FUTURE AND THEN I'M GOING TO SHARE SOME PHOTOS WITH YOU ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW.

FINALLY I'LL END WITH ADDRESSING SOME INFORMATION THAT SHARED IN THE MEDIA RECENTLY. SO SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT.

SO FIRST OPERATIONAL SECURITY THE SECURITY OF DETENTION CENTER IS VERY IMPORTANT.

SO AS I SHARE INFORMATION WITH YOU TODAY, SOME OF THE THINGS I MAY I MAY OFFER YOU WILL BE VAGUE. I WON'T OFFER A LOT OF DATES, NUMBERS AND THOSE KINDS

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SO IF YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION, FINE, YOU CAN ASK ANYTHING YOU WANT BUT I MAY OR MAY NOT GIVE A SPECIFIC ANSWER. IF I DON'T I'M AVOIDING THAT SPECIFIC ANSWER SO THAT WE DON'T DAMAGE OPERATIONAL SECURITY AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THAT AFTER OR THE KERNELS HERE SO ANYTHING REALLY HARD SHE KNOWS ALL THE ANSWERS.

ALL RIGHT. THE MISSION STATEMENT. SO THERE ARE FOUR MAIN PILLARS HERE FOR THE DETENTION CENTER THAT IS TO PROVIDE A SAFE, SECURE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR INCARCERATED GUESTS. PERSONS ADMITTED TO THE FACILITY B OF B VARIOUS BY SORRY BY VARIOUS AGENCIES WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM TO COMPLY WITH STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATION CONCERNING THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY, THE PERFORMANCE OF STAFF'S OFFICIAL DUTIES TO PROVIDE PROGRAMS FOR INMATES IN THE AREAS RE SOCIALIZATION EDUCATION, SELF-ESTEEM AND SELF-HELP AND TO PROVIDE QUALITY FOR ALL THE STAFF IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE AND FEDERAL GUIDELINES AND ACCREDITATION STANDARDS. SO THAT IS THE MISSION OTHER THAN THE TYPO THERE THAT IS ON OUR WEBSITE SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE MISSION THE MISSION IS TO PROTECT THE SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE OF STAFF AND OUR GUESTS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE FIRST COUNTY DETENTION CENTER MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM STANDARD FOR LOCAL DETENTION CENTER FACILITIES IN SOUTH CAROLINA.

SO THERE'S A MINIMUM STANDARDS BOOK THAT WE MEASURE PERFORMANCE AGAINST AND WE COMMONLY MEET OR EXCEED THAT THE MAXIMUM POPULATION IN DETENTION CENTER IS 255 INMATES. OUR AVERAGE DAILY POPULATION AS WHEN I WROTE THIS WAS 203 THAT CHANGES ROUTINELY EVERY DAY IF YOU WERE ON THE TOUR TODAY I TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE NUMBER OF INMATES THAT COME AND GO EVERY DAY AND THAT AVERAGES ABOUT 22 INMATES OR 22 NEW GUESTS THAT ARRIVE OR LEAVE EVERY SINGLE DAY ABOUT 70 PEOPLE A WEEK COME AND GO FROM OUR FACILITY TO MANY CLIQUES. ALL RIGHT. ACTIVE PROJECTS GOING ON RIGHT NOW THIS MORNING WE SHOWED YOU SOME OF THE WORK AND OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEM SO THIS IS THE WATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY WE HAVE A STUCCO REPAIR.

I THINK SOMEONE ASKED ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING HAS SOME HOLES, SOME DAMAGE IN THE STUCCO THAT IS IN THE BID PROCESS RIGHT NOW IT HAS BEEN FOR A WHILE WAS VERY EXPENSIVE SO WE HAD TO REALLY DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE, MAKE SURE WE HAD THE PROPER PRODUCT AND THE PROPER PRICE INTERIOR THERE IS AN INTERIOR GYM THAT HAS NOT BEEN IN SERVICE FOR QUITE A WHILE. THERE'S A CONVERSION PROCESS FOR THAT OR CONVERSION OF THAT GYM INTO SOME HOUSING SPACE THAT'S IN THE BID PROCESS. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT INTERIOR RENOVATION PHASE ONE THIS MORNING. YOU SAW CORRECTIONS OFFICERS MUSTER ROOM. SO THERE'S A MUSTER ROOM UPGRADES SOME OF UP FIT OF THE CORRECTIONS OFFICERS LOCKER AS WELL AND SOME ADMIN SPACES IMPROVEMENTS FOOD PORTS, FOOD ARE IN THE IN SOME OF THE CELL DOORS THEMSELVES. IT'S A SLOT THAT ALLOWS A CORRECTIONS OFFICER TO SERVE A MEAL A DOOR AND IT HELPS OF COURSE INCREASE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR INMATES AND OUR CORRECTIONS OFFICER. SO THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE PROJECTS THAT UNDERWAY IN THE BID PROCESS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE FOR THIS YEAR'S WORK SOME PLANNED PROJECTS INTO RENOVATIONS PHASE TWO. SO PHASE TWO IS SOME OF THE WORK INSIDE THE HOUSING UNITS. THERE'S ALL THIS WORK CAN COINCIDE WITH ONE ANOTHER.

SOME OF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSING UNIT, SOME OF IT'S INSIDE OF THE HOUSING UNITS.

SO IT WILL HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME INSIDE THE HOUSING UNIT THIS IS PAINTING THE SURFACE IS INSIDE THE INSIDE THE HOUSING UNITS UPGRADING OR REPLACING THE CEILING TILES DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT INSIDE THE HOUSING UNIT TO IMPROVE THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE FOR INMATES THERE ARE SOME ROOF REPAIRS PLANNED OUR FACILITIES TEAM IS ALWAYS WORKING ON THIS BUILDING IN ONE PLACE FOR ANOTHER AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB JASON AND HIS CREW LED BY THEIR FRANK THEY STAY ON TOP OF THESE THINGS. THIS IS REALLY WHAT OUR FACILITY HAS NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME. IN THE PAST THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE TO THE DETENTION CENTER AND HONESTLY WE PAID THE

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THERE'S A MUCH LONGER LIST IF I BROUGHT OUR FACILITIES FOLKS UP HERE THEY WILL GO THROUGH A LOT MORE GOING ON. SO HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENED RECENTLY OUR FACILITIES TEAM THERE WAS SOME SOME DRAIN PROBLEMS IN THE FACILITY. THIS WAS THE KITCHEN.

IF YOU WERE ON THE TOUR WITH US THIS MORNING YOU SAW THE HALLWAY OUTSIDE THE KITCHEN AREA. THIS IS WHERE THE PROBLEM BEGAN WAS DRAINAGE WATER BACKING UP IN THE IN THE DRAINS AND THAT KITCHEN AREA THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE HEALTH OF ANYONE IN THAT IN BUILDING SO OUR FACILITIES WORKED WITH PROCUREMENT AND DID A AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT TO PROCURE A PLUMBING AGENCY A COMPANY SEVERAL COMPANIES TO COME IN AND MANAGE THIS WORK. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FOUND IN THE DETENTION CENTER WITH THE PLUMBING THE MOMENT YOU BREAK A HOLE, THE CONCRETE THE FIRST TIME TO REPAIR THIS PROBLEM THREE FEET AWAY FROM THAT PROBLEM IS ANOTHER PROBLEM AND THEN THREE FEET AWAY FROM THAT PROBLEM IS ANOTHER PROBLEM. SO THIS IS THIS IS A GIFT THAT HAS NOT STOPPED GIVING. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE REPAIRS AS WE AS WE FIND THEM.

BUT JUST KNOW THAT EVERY TIME WE FIX SOMETHING THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT IS THE NEXT EMERGENCY AS IT COMES TO THIS DRAIN SYSTEM. SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FIRST PICTURE HERE IS JUST A BIG MOUNTAIN OF DIRT. SO IN THE KITCHEN AREA WE HAD TO MOVE ALL THE APPLIANCES OUT OF THE SPACE. WE HAD TO CUT THROUGH CONCRETE.

THEY HAD TO DIG DOWN ABOUT THREE FEET AND WHAT WE FIND THERE IS CAST IRON PIPE IN THE WHEELBARROW YOU SEE A FEW FEET OF CAST IRON PIPE. THAT PIPE SHOULD LAST MUCH LONGER THAN 33 YEARS. SO THAT DETENTION CENTER IS 33 YEARS OLD.

HOWEVER, THE SOIL THAT IT'S BURIED IN AND THIS TO ALL OF IT THE SOIL THAT IT'S BURIED IN IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE SALT MARSH AND MANY YEARS AGO BEFORE THAT SITE WAS THE HIGH THIS WAS A SULFUR MINING AREA. SO THERE IS GREAT POTENTIAL THAT THERE'S SOME CHEMICAL SOMETHING LEFT BEHIND IN THE SOIL THAT HAS CAUSED SOME OF THIS PLUMBING TO DEGRADE MUCH FASTER THAN IT SHOULD HAVE SOME AREAS THE CAST IRON PIPE ALSO FIND STANDING WATER YOU OUR GUESTS IN THE DETENTION CENTER DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE THERE SO THEY TYPICALLY THEY FIND EVER NEW CREATIVE WAYS TO DAMAGE OUR FACILITY AND MUCH OF THAT DAMAGE IS DONE BY THE PLUMBING. ANY TIME THERE'S DAMAGE IN THE PLUMBING THAT CAUSES A CLOUD WE HAVE STANDING WATER STANDING WATER IN CAST IRON PLUMBING IS NOT A GREAT THING THAT WATER NEEDS TO KEEP MOVING OR IT SITS IN ONE PLACE AND RUSTS AND MAKES MORE DAMAGE.

IT'S REALLY BAD AND WHAT YOU SEE THOSE LITTLE GRAY PIPES GOING BACK AND FORTH THAT'S ELECTRICAL. SO OUR PLUMBERS HAD TO TUNNEL YOU SEE THAT BIG TUNNEL THEY HAD TO CUT ALL ALL THAT FLOOR AND TUNNEL UNDERNEATH AS FAR AS THEY COULD GET TO REPLACE THAT PLUMBING. SO THIS THIS WAS THE REPAIR THAT STARTED PROBABLY MONTHS AGO AND THAT HAS ALL BEEN COMPLETED REPAIRED WITH SCHEDULE 40 PVC ALL PUT BACK TOGETHER NEW FLOORS AND IF YOU WENT IN THE KITCHEN TODAY OR PEEK THROUGH THE WINDOW, YOU COULD SEE THAT ALL OF THAT WORK IS IS FINISHED. BUT THAT AND THERE'S THOSE TWO SPOTS IN THE HALLWAY THAT WE THAT WE WALKED BY THOSE WERE DUG UP.

HERE'S THE PROJECT HAPPENING NOW THIS IS INSIDE OF HOUSING UNIT THIS IS TUESDAY MORNING THE MORNING THAT THE OF THE CONSTRUCTION BEGAN THIS IS A LITTLE VIDEO AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE VIDEO IS A AUDIO'S GOOD SO I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT WHEN THERE WHEN THE VIDEO IS OVER AT SHORT ALL RIGHT SO IN THAT VIDEO YOU SEE THOSE WERE THE SHOWER UNITS THAT WERE TILE BEFORE EACH OF THE SHOWER PANS THEMSELVES WERE WERE LEAKING UNDERNEATH THE SHOWER PAN IS A FOOT VALVE WITH A TRAP IN THERE THEY WERE JUST COMPLETELY ROTTED OUT. THE ONLY WAY TO REPAIR THOSE WAS TO REMOVE ALL THE TILE AND THEN REMOVE THE SHOWER PANS AND I'LL CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT YOU SAW THOSE STAFF MEMBERS THAT

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I KNOW THERE WAS A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT TALKED ABOUT MURIATIC ACID.

NOT TRUE. THERE IS NO MURIATIC USED IN THIS PROCESS AT ALL.

MURIATIC ACID IS USED TO CONCRETE. WE'RE NOT ETCHING ANYTHING.

WE'RE USING JACKHAMMERS SO. THE ONLY CHEMICAL THAT WAS USED IN THERE WAS DILUTED HOUSEHOLD BLEACH JUST TO DISINFECT THE TILE AGAIN THAT TILE IT'S WHEN IT'S CHISELED THAT WAY BECOMES RAZOR SHARP. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO WERE THE PLUMBERS CONSTRUCTION WORKERS AND WHEN I SAY STAFF MEMBERS NOT COUNTY STAFF WERE AS BEST PROTECTED AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S VERY SHARP. THE NEXT VIDEO YOU'LL SEE THIS IS AGAIN OUR CONSTRUCTION CREW AFTER THE TILE HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THERE'S A LITTLE VIDEO THERE AS WELL. THERE YOU GO. NOW THE AMOUNT DUST.

SO AGAIN ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WAS SHARED IN THE MEDIA WITH THAT THERE WAS SOME TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DUST. I'M CERTAIN THERE WAS SOME DUST CREATED BUT THIS WAS NOT CLOUDS OF DUST AS YOU CAN SEE. SO HERE'S THE AFTERMATH OF THAT.

THIS IS THE FLOOR OF ONE OF THE SHOWER UNITS THAT WITH THE TILE REMOVED THEN YOU CAN SEE THE CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT WAS DONE AS WELL AS THE BACK THE FIXTURES THEMSELVES ARE STAINLESS STEEL FIXTURES. THEY'RE MOUNTED TO THE WALL AND REMOVED AS A AS A WHOLE UNIT AND THEY'LL BE REPLACED THAT WAY. HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT.

MANY OF YOU WHO WENT THIS MORNING KIND OF STOOD RIGHT IN THAT AREA.

SO AS EACH OF THOSE FLOOR PANS WERE REMOVED, A MOUNTAIN OF DIRT HAD TO BE DUG OUT TO ACCESS THAT PLUMBING AND REPAIR THAT THE SAME THING HAPPENED HERE THOSE.

PLUMBERS WENT THROUGH THAT WENT THROUGH THE FLOOR. THEY OUT A BIG PIECE OF FLOOR AND THEN THEY TUNNELED UNDERNEATH TO GET AS AS THEY COULD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY REPAIRED ANY DAMAGED PLUMBING UNDERNEATH. THE LAST THING THAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS ANY WORK AND DO IT HALFWAY. WE'D BE RIGHT BACK THERE IN A FEW MORE MONTHS TRYING TO FIX IT AGAIN. SO WE MADE SURE THAT WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND DID THE BEST REPAIR POSSIBLE THAT WILL LAST US AS LONG AS POSSIBLE ALL RIGHT. HERE'S JUST A FEW MORE PICTURES OF THEM PUTTING THEM BACK IN.

YOU CAN SEE THEY USE THOSE SCHEDULE 40 PVC TO PUT BACK IN AND THEN REFILLED THOSE HOLES.

THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS YOU YOU WHO TOURED TODAY WOULD SEE SAW WE HAD CUSTOM MADE FLOOR PANS BUILT FOR EACH OF THE SHOWERS. THESE ARE CONNECTED AND THEY'RE SOLID FLOOR PANS THEY WON'T LEAK. SO THIS WAS AS OF THIS MORNING THE WORK THAT WAS GOING ON INSIDE THE THE LAST PHASE OF TO FINISH THIS IS TO PUT IN THE SOLID WALL PANELS AND THEN PUT THE FIXTURES BACK IN. SO THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO COMPLETING THIS PROJECT AND THIS IS JUST IN A SINGLE UNIT. THIS IS SIX SHOWERS IN ONE HOUSING UNIT SINCE THEN AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS KIND OF WORK THERE 20 MORE SHOWERS IN THE BALANCE OF THE OTHER HOUSING UNITS THAT NEED THE SAME TYPE OF WORK.

AND THIS IS A VIEW FOR FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WEREN'T THERE THIS MORNING THIS IS INSIDE THE HOUSING UNIT. I TOOK THIS PHOTO WITH MY BACK TO THE SHOWERS AND WHAT I WANT YOU TO SEE IS WHERE THE INMATES WERE IN THAT SPACE ON TUESDAY SO DURING THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION THERE WERE SOME INMATES STILL IN HOUSING UNIT. THEY WERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR ALL WAY IN THE BACK. SO THE CENTER VIEW IS WHERE THOSE INMATES WERE AS FAR AWAY FROM THE CONSTRUCTION AREAS. WE COULD POSSIBLY GET THEM. I WANT TO ADDRESS ONE MORE THING THE DOORS THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT THE CELLS THEMSELVES AND NOT HAVING PROPER VENTILATION AND OR MAYBE DUST BEING IN THERE. THE CELLS OUR DETENTION CENTER AREN'T LIKE MAYBERRY. THE BARS THAT GO UP AND DOWN THERE ARE SOLID DOORS WITH SOLID WINDOWS IN EACH OF ROOMS HAS ITS OWN AIR CONDITIONING. THE THE HOUSING UNIT ITSELF AS INDEPENDENT VENTILATION THAT'S ISOLATED FROM OTHER HOUSING UNITS.

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I APPRECIATE THE TOUR OF IT LOOKED A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENT FROM THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN THERE SO. GOOD GOOD. MR..

MR. GLOVER WAS TELLING ME THAT WHEN IT OPENED. HE WAS THERE FOR A VISIT AND GOT GOT RELEASED. YES. WITH THE BOOK ME OUT OR WHATEVER STARTS TO GET OUT. YEAH. YOU TALKED ABOUT REPAIRS THAT ARE BEING DONE CURRENTLY. YES. AND YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE. YES, SIR. DETENTION CENTER WITH POLICE MINISTER. THE REPAIR THAT YOU'RE DOING NOW OR YOU ATTEMPTING TO DO IMMEDIATELY IS TO RESTORE THAT FACILITY FOR HOW LONG AND? THE FINAL QUESTION I HAVE ON THAT IN REGARD TO THAT IS THAT DETENTION CENTER OR BEING ON A LIST TO BE REPLACED X12 YEARS FROM NOW? YES, SIR. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE I'LL ADDRESS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE DETENTION CENTER FIRST WE TALKED ABOUT THAT DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING. WE TALKED ABOUT TWO MAJOR REASONS WE NEED TO BEGIN NOW CONSIDERING THE FUNDING TO REPLACE THAT DETENTION CENTER. ONE OF THOSE IS THE THE CONDITION OF THE FACILITY ITSELF. WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIND ISSUES THAT ARE VERY COSTLY TO REPAIR . AND THE OTHER IS THE CAPACITY OF THE FACILITY EVEN TODAY WITH I THINK OUR AVERAGE POPULATION WAS 203 AND EVEN IN ONE HOUSING UNIT WITH FIVE CELLS OUT OF SERVICE FOR WHATEVER THAT MOVES US TO LIKE 245.

WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF THAT FACILITY. IN 2008 WE HAD WE WERE HAD 308 INMATES. WE HAD INMATES TO A TWO PERSON CELLS EVERYWHERE IN THAT DETENTION CENTER. IT IS NOW IS THE TIME US TO CONSIDER WHAT THE FUTURE NEEDS ARE AND THE FUTURE NEEDS OF COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW. OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTINUES TO GROW THEIR TEAMS. THEY CONTINUE TO CRACK ON CRIME IN BEAUFORT COUNTY AND EVERY CRIMINAL THEY CATCH COUNTY ENDS UP IN THAT FACILITY. SO REDUCTION OF CRIME WOULD BE GREAT. REDUCING RECIDIVISM WOULD BE EXCELLENT BUT WE WE GET A LOT OF REPEAT CUSTOMERS AND THE POPULATION IS GROWING IN IT WAS ASSUMING THAT ONCE THAT REPLACEMENT IS CONSIDERED BEING CONSIDERED IS GOING TO BE ON DIFFERENT SITE.

YES, SIR. THERE WERE SOME PLANS THERE WERE SOME WORK DONE.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATES TEN, 15 YEARS AGO WHERE WE WANT TO SAY MAYBE 2008 WHERE WE LOOKED AT THIS DETENTION CENTER AND LOOKED AT OPTIONS TO GROW THE DETENTION CENTER ON THE SITE.

IT BECOMES VERY LIMITED. THIS THE WHOLE COMPLEX HERE IS ABOUT 12 ACRES THERE, SIX ACRES OF IT A PARKING LOT AND WE'RE BUILDING ANOTHER ONE NOW BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING. THE COMPLEX ITSELF CANNOT CANNOT REASONABLY HOUSE SIZE OF A DETENTION CENTER WE NEED FOR THE FUTURE. AND SO FOR ALL FOR OUR FUTURE PLANNING THEY WOULD TALK AT SOME TIME ABOUT A REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER.

YES SEVERAL COUNTIES. IS THAT SOMETHING PRACTICAL? IS IT? WELL, I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. PRACTICAL IT IS IT IS PRACTICAL PRACTICAL IN THE SENSE THAT THERE IS CERTAINLY A COST SAVINGS WHEN YOU JOIN WITH MULTIPLE COUNTIES. HOWEVER, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE MORE HOLISTIC PICTURE FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY A REGIONAL DETENTION CENTER IN OUR REGION IS NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS THE

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IT WELL MIGHT BE CLOSE TO COUNTY BUT ON THE FRINGE OF COUNTY SOMEWHERE NORTH OF I-95 THAT WOULD BE VERY PROHIBITIVE TO ALL THE LAW IN THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED AREA.

SO WE HAVE WAY THE KIND OF ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS AND LOOKED AT THOSE OPTIONS AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO REPLACEMENT WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT. AND OTHER COUNTIES HAVE LOOKED AT THE SAME THING BECAUSE THEY'RE CERTAINLY SOME EFFICIENCY WHEN WE WHEN WE DECIDE TO WORK TOGETHER. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS THAT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF OF EFFICIENCY. MAYBE IT DOESN'T MAYBE IT ISN'T THE BEST THING.

MY FINAL QUESTION YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS. MISS GRANT IS HERE SO SHE MAY OF THE 255 NUMBERS AS THERE HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE CONSIDERED AND LIFE IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD LONGEVITY RIGHT THAT'S IN THE DETENTION CELL YOU TALK ABOUT ABOUT A COHORT COHORT OF ABOUT 78 AND OLD IS THE DIFFERENCE. PEOPLE ARE THERE FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS OR FOR A LONG TIME.

WELL, I WILL LET COLONEL GRANT ADDRESS THAT, BUT OUR DETENTION CENTER IS DESIGNED FOR PRETRIAL INMATES. SO THE LARGEST PART OF OUR INMATE POPULATION PRETRIAL INMATES. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LONG TERM INCARCERATION FOR CONVICTED INMATES? NO, WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE DETENTION CENTER.

BUT WATCH HOW MANY CITY GOES TO MAYBE SOMEBODY IS THERE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE THEY HADN'T BEEN COMING FOR COURT YET? IS THE COURT SYSTEM BEHIND AND WE DO HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF INMATES THAT ARE THERE TO GO TO COURT.

WHEN YOU SAY A FRAME WE HAVE INMATES WAITING THREE FOUR YEARS.

LIKE HE SAID, IT IS PRETTY LOW IN THERE ON THE DOCKET JUST WAITING TO GO TO COURT IN THIS JAIL WE ABOUT 20% OF INMATES. SO I SAY YES. OKAY.

THANK YOU THEN JUST A FOLLOW UP. YES, COLONEL.

YES, SIR. GO AWAY. THIS IS YOUR BIG I LEARNED A COUPLE LOT TODAY. A COUPLE OF THINGS I LEARNED ONE.

THE DETENTION FACILITY IS 33 YEARS OLD. I ALSO LEARNED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE YOUR 30TH YEAR THERE, CORRECT? YES.

WELL, LISTEN I THINK WE SHOULD APPLAUD HER. THANK YOU MR. DID A GREAT JOB GIVING US ALL THE HIGHLIGHTS. WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR THINGS THAT ARE MOST CRITICAL TO YOU THAT YOU'VE LEARNED OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO THINK ABOUT? THE FIRST THING MENTAL HEALTH. MENTAL HEALTH. YES, WE HAVE A LOT OF WITH MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS. OKAY. YES.

I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE NUMBER ONE IN MENTAL HEALTH WE HAVE. YES.

SOMEBODY HERE OR SOMEBODY HERE WE CAN WE'LL TAKE A NOTE OF THAT.

BUT YEAH AND GET TOGETHER AND FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO THERE BUT THANK YOU.

YES. WHAT ELSE GO AHEAD. I THINK THE POPULATION THAT ARE COMMITTING THE CRIMES ARE YOUNGER SO WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNGER ADULTS COMMITTING MORE VIOLENT CRIMES. SO THAT DEFINITELY SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE AS WELL.

IT'S FUNNY CATHERINE MEAD AND I WERE WALKING AROUND AND SOMEHOW WE GOT TALKING ABOUT OUR YOUTH AGAIN FOR SOME REASON WE'RE ON THAT AND IS THAT TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM YOU WITH MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOLS NOW THAT BRING KIDS IN THERE AND ACTUALLY PUT ON THE JUMPSUIT I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT PLEASE GIVE IT TO THEM SO THAT'S WHAT THE SOLICITOR'S OFFICE WE BRING THEM IN AND WE GIVE THEM SPILL ON WHY THEY SHOULDN'T COME TO JAIL AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY LIKE YOU PUT THEM IN A JUMPSUIT. YEAH, WE DO.

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GREATLY APPRECIATED. I JUST HAD A QUESTION. YES MA'AM.

WE KNOW THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS A REVOLVING DOOR BETWEEN YOUR FACILITY AND THE HOSPITAL.

HAVE YOU HAD I THINK I KNOW ANSWER I'M NOT SURE Y'ALL ARE COORDINATING BETTER WITH THE HOSPITAL. OH, DEFINITELY. AND DID YOU GET A COUNSELOR TO WORK? YES, THAT A LITTLE BIT THE PUBLIC AND WE DO HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR IN-HOUSE. FROM BEFORE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH BEFORE MEMORIAL. AND THE GREATEST THING ABOUT HAVING THAT CONTRACT IS THAT THIS MEMORIAL THEY SERVE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT WE SERVICE SO THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SAME GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS. SO IT MAKES IT MUCH. WE'RE CLOSE WITH RUSSELL BAXLEY. IF YOU TALK WITH THEM, LET THEM KNOW ASK THEM TO COME TO US AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO. SOUNDS GREAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT STAND. WE DO HAVE A FEW OF THE PRESIDENT PRESENTATIONS GET THROUGH. JOHN THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. THANK YOU ALL.

AND JOHN OLSEN, THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE THAT CAME UP IN THE MEDIA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE IN ASSURING THE PUBLIC THAT YOU ARE.

[10. PRESENTATION ON AVAILABLE RESOURCES BY THE MACE TEAM - R.J. Heape and Noah Longest, Congresswoman Nancy Mace's Office ]

SO NO WHEN YOU DO THIS WE'RE NOT WANT TO LEARN HOW WE CAN DO IT.

AND BY THE WAY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, HANK, ADDRESS THIS. WE'RE HIRING A GRANT WRITER AS WE SPEAK HERE AT SITE. SO MY THING IS OUR WORK HERE OUR WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN WHO HAS A GRANT WRITER I THINK WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO HEAR ABOUT STORMWATER TODAY BUT I BELIEVE THIS ORGANIZATION RIGHT HERE HAS OTHER GRANTS THAT WE CAN PROBABLY GET TO.

YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT WE LISTEN TO THE KERNEL ABOUT AND MAYBE DSN SO AGAIN NO I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT WITH A LOT BUT I THINK YOU'RE PREPARED YES FAIR SO GOING IN THAT THE REASON WHY OUR OFFICE IS BIG INTO GRANTS IS WE'RE THE 10TH FASTEST GROWING DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY OUT 435 THERE'S SOME SERIOUS GROWTH AND THERE WAS EVEN A RECENT STUDY FROM NOAH OUR DATA FROM NOAH FOR A COASTAL REGION FROM JASPER HORRY COUNTY WHERE THE FASTEST GROWING COASTAL REGION ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS IN THE ENTIRE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY MORE THAN FLORIDA MORE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE. SO WITH THAT KIND OF GROWTH COMES A LOT OF NEEDS THAT COULD BE INFRASTRUCTURE YOUR TRIP TRANSIT, STORM WATER, A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE TO TACKLE AND THE CONGRESSWOMAN DOES NOT EARMARK FOR FISCAL REASONS. WE'RE REALLY ACTIVE IN THE GRANT PROCESS. THE MINDSET IS IF THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE SHOULD COME TO OUR DISTRICT AND WE BELIEVE IT SHOULD COME TO OUR DISTRICT BASED OFF OF THAT GROWTH. AND SO SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF HOW WE CAN HELP WITH THESE PROJECTS IS THE CITY OF HAND-IN-HAND POLICE CHIEF HE REACHED OUT TO US AND HE WAS YOU KNOW WHAT SOME OF THIS GROWTH THEY NEED HELP WITH EQUIPMENT IT WAS GAS MASKS OTHER ITEMS LIKE THAT AND HE REACHED OUT TO US AND ASKED IF WE KNEW OF ANY GRANT PROGRAMS AS A FEDERAL OFFICE WE'RE AFFORDED A RESEARCH DATABASE WHERE WE CAN RESEARCH AND LOOK INTO WHAT IS AVAILABLE FEDERALLY THE VERY LEAST WE CAN LET YOU KNOW THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE. THIS IS WHAT'S CHANGING AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT YOU IN THAT PROCESS. SO RESEARCHING THERE'S A PROGRAM CALLED 1033 A SURPLUS PROGRAM WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND YOU CAN LOG ON TO IT AND ALMOST ACTS AS AN AMAZON LIST WHERE YOU JUST GO THROUGH YOU GO THROUGH YOUR STATE OFFICER AND THEY CAN PULL SOME OF THESE FUNDS BUT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR AND ONCE YOU GET IN IT'S FREE SO WE LET THE CITY OF HAND TO HAND KNOW THAT THEY APPLY WE GOT THEM IN TOUCH WITH THE

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ANOTHER EXAMPLE DEVO BANG. SO CONSERVATION WE'RE A COASTAL DISTRICT THAT'S A BIG ITEM HERE AS THE LARGEST SEABIRD ESTUARY IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE OFF OF ONE MILL IN CHARLESTON COUNTY THEY REACHED OUT TO US AND SAID HEY, WHAT IS WHAT IS WHAT CAN YOU GUYS DO? AND WE RESEARCHED WE GOT IN TOUCH WITH NEF WITH WHICH IS A IS AN ACT CHARTERED BY CONGRESS UNDER THE AGENCY NOA AND REACHED OUT TO THEM AND WORKED WITH THE NIF WITH AS A FEDERAL OFFICE WE CAN BE MORE EMPOWERED TO REACH OUT TO THESE AGENCIES AND WORK WITH THEM AND FOUND A GRANT THAT WAS ELIGIBLE FOR THIS GROUP APPLIED WE WE WROTE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM REPRESENTATIVE NATION THEY GOT STUDY TO FUND THIS AND THE STUDY WAS GOING FIND THE EROSION PATTERNS TO HOPEFULLY REBUILD THAT SEABIRD ESTUARY. SO THAT'S SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF HOW WE CAN HELP IN THE GRANT PROCESS FOR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE AN ARM OF FLOOD FINDER TOOL THAT THE GRANT STRIDER FROM THE CITY OF CHARLESTON WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GIVE US AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL THAT LETS US KNOW WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE.

TOOLS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL BUT JUST OFFER SOME OF THE RESEARCH HERE YOU KNOW WITH STORMWATER EPA PROGRAMS, THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING WHICH IS THROUGH THE STATE OFFICE 80% OF FEDERAL FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED TO THE STATE OFFICE ON BEHALF OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO THOSE CONTACTS AT THE STATE LEVEL WE'RE OFTEN MEETING WITH WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM ON ALMOST A WEEKLY BASIS AND YOU'RE TRYING TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THEIR PROGRAMS. SO WE DO HAVE THOSE CONTACTS AND WE REACH OUT TO THEM.

SO IF THE YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNTY OF BEAUFORT OR A51C3 OR ANY GROUP REACHES OUT TO US IN THAT SPHERE, WE'LL CALL THAT PERSON AND SEE WHAT THEY MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR.

THERE'S THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING INNOVATION ACT.

THIS IS A LOAN PROGRAM SO I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT GRANTS.

WE CAN ALSO SUPPORT LOANS, CONTRACTS AND ITEMS AND A LOT OF THE STUFF WITH AGAIN AS I WAS SAYING EARLIER ABOUT 80% OF THE FEDERAL FUNDS ARE THROUGH THE STATE OFFICE IN OF STORMWATER AND SOME OF THOSE FEMA GRANTS THE STATE MITIGATION OFFICER IS THE IS THE CONTACT THAT HAS LOT OF THIS INFORMATION. SO CREATING THAT PIPELINE AGAIN WHERE WE'RE MEETING THESE CONTACTS YOU'RE HAVING THAT PIPELINE OPEN WITH THEIR STATE OFFICE OR IS SUPER IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF THESE GRANTS. SO THAT'S THAT'S OUR SUPPORT WITH PROJECTS AND GRANTS AND REALLY JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZES WE TRY TO BE A CUSTOMER SERVICE ADVOCATE WITH ANYTHING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BUT JUST GRANTS AND LOANS AND CONTRACTS AND ALSO WE MEET WITH WELL THERE'S MAYORS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND COUNTY AND STATE OFFICES FOR GRANTS ALSO FIVE AND SEE THREE THAT HAVE BEEN YOU KNOW A 523 FOR ONLY A WEEK OR TWO THEY HAVE TWO PEOPLE WORKING OUT OF THEIR OFFICE.

WE ALSO WORK WITH THEM GETTING IN TOUCH WITH GRANT WRITERS PRIVATE GRANT RESOURCES AS A FEDERAL OFFICE WE CAN ONLY SUPPORT FEDERAL GRANTS FOR THE HOUSE ETHICS BUT WE CAN STILL REACH OUT AND AGAIN GIVE THEM THOSE RESOURCES, CONNECT THEM WITH CHAMBERS OR MAYBE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN CHARLESTON COUNTY AND BEAUFORT COUNTY PARTNERING THEM FOR FOR PRAGMATIC STANDPOINT ACTIVITIES MAYBE, EVEN JOINT APPLICATIONS. SO IF YOU GUYS KNOW OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS COULD USE OUR HELP FEEL FEEL FREE TO LEAVE THE MAN WITH YOUR ROOMMATE YOU KNOW WITH MY OR WITH RJ OR CALLING OUR OFFICE LINE HAPPY TO HELP AND ONE THING I DIDN'T TOUCH ON TOO MUCH WITH THE SUPPORT WITH GRANT APPLICATION WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS ONE IS TRYING TO FIND THOSE GRANT PROGRAMS BUT ALSO THE LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM REPRESENTATIVE MAYS TO HELP WITH THE APPLICATION LETTING HER KNOW SO WHEN SHE'S IN WASHINGTON AND SHE'S HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS AN ITEM THAT MEANS A LOT TO HER AND HER DISTRICT AND SUPPORTING IT VERBALLY WITH THOSE CONTACTS AND ALSO JUST REACHING TO THE AGENCY ON TIMEFRAME WINDOWS YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS FIELD FOR GRANT PROGRAM. SO THAT'S THE GENERAL SUMMARY HOW WE CAN HELP WITH LOCAL PROJECTS AND YOU KNOW WHY IT MEANS A LOT OUR DISTRICT IS WHAT I SAID EARLIER WITH IS THAT GROWTH COULD I INTERJECT WITH ONE QUESTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS A COUNCIL I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE HAPHAZARD EVERYBODY SHOOTING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

MR. MOORE DOES IT MAKE THAT NOAH AND HIS TEAM WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOU IN WHATEVER WE CAN FACILITATE HELP WITH? I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT. I THINK I'VE BEEN READING A LOT ON WHAT THESE TWO HAVE SENT ME. I THINK AN AWFUL LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.

I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE DONE THE RIGHT WAY AND IF IF IT MAKES SENSE TO BE COORDINATED THROUGH YOUR OFFICE SO WE DO THINGS THE PROPER WAY YOU LET ME KNOW AGAIN IS NEW BUT THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT THERE THAT WE CAN PROBABLY GET. YEAH ABSOLUTELY THEY CAN WORK THROUGH OUR OFFICE. NOAH I THINK FROM THIS FOLLOW UP RJ MEET WITH MR. MOORE AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO THIS IS CRITICAL TO US. THIS COUNTY OFTEN GOES FOR PENNY REFERENDUMS AND WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT A CAPITAL I'D LIKE TO SEEM I LIKE THIS EFFORT

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I THINK WE SHOULD BE AGGRESSIVE ON IT AND KNOW DID YOU HAVE ANY THING ELSE THAN THIS THE LAST THING TOO IS OUTSIDE OF LOCAL PROJECTS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO HERE THE DISTRICT OFFICES WE HAVE OFFICE HERE IN BEAUFORT AND ALSO IN DANIEL ISLAND, CHARLESTON COUNTY IS WE DEAL WITH CASEWORK TOO SO THIS IS FOR YOU FOR COUNCIL AND OTHER GROUPS WE WORK A LOT WITH VA, IRS PASSPORTS IF ANYONE HAS A PASSPORT YOU GUYS ARE TRAVELING AND YOU YOU'RE NOT HEARING BACK FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. YOU'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH APPLICATION PROCESS CALL OUR OFFICE. WE HAVE CASEWORKERS THAT WORK ON THESE ISSUES AND YOU CAN'T PROMISE ANYTHING JUST JUST LIKE WITH THE GRANT PROJECT.

BUT WE DO HAVE CASEWORKERS THAT CAN WORK ON THESE CASES AND GET YOUR PASSPORT FOR YOU AND WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING A LOT NOT PASSPORTS, VA CLAIMS AND ISSUES WITH THE VA IS ANY FEDERAL AGENCY. WE'RE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON IT .

WE HAVE CASEWORKERS IN OUR CHARLESTON AND BEAUFORT OFFICE. WE HAVE ONE IN BEAUFORT, TWO IN CHARLESTON THAT WORK ON ISSUES LIKE THAT AND THAT'S KIND OF OVERALL A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE DO IN THE DISTRICT NOW EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT GOES ON IN WASHINGTON.

IT'S A BUNCH OF , YOU KNOW, MADNESS AND CRAZINESS HERE IN DISTRICT.

IT'S BUTTONED UP AND WE'D LIKE TO THINK WE CAN MOVE NEEDLE MORE THAN THEY CAN IN WASHINGTON BECAUSE OF THAT CRAZINESS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS COMING IN THE SERVICES? NO, I APPRECIATE IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO ASK ABOUT IS YOU IF YOU STICK AROUND FOR THE NEXT PRESENTATION WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH THE HOUSING TRUST HAVING FUNDED ANY ANYTHING IN THAT REGARD AS FAR AS ASSISTING WITH AFFORDABLE THAT IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR DISTRICT THAT'S ONE OF THE FIVE PILLARS OF ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES AND SO WHAT WE DO THERE WE'RE WE'RE MEETING WITH GROUPS WHETHER IT'S THE HUMANITIES FOUNDATION IN CHARLESTON HABITAT IN THESE GROUPS THAT THE CHAMBER THAT TACKLE THIS ISSUE. SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE SUPPORTED WITH THAT WAS WE MET WITH THE HUMANITIES AND THEY REACHED OUT TO US WITH THIS VISION OF BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN CHARLESTON AND WE CONNECTED THEM WITH LIVE CHECK THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT AND THAT'S ON FEDERAL DOLLARS AND WROTE THE LETTER OF OF SUPPORT FOR THAT APPLICATION THEY WERE AWARDED IT FOR $1,000,000. SO THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS HAVE TO WRITE THE GRANT.

BUT THAT WAS HOW WE WORKED ON THAT ISSUE. AND SO THAT'S THAT IS ONE OF THOSE WAYS I THINK YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.

I'M SURE EACH ONE OF THESE GRANTS AS DIFFERENT DEADLINES BUT ARE THERE MAJOR DEADLINES THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING QUARTERLY BASIS? I MEAN WHAT WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING ON TOP OF YEAH SO WHAT THE GRANT LANDSCAPE RIGHT NOW THERE IS A LOT OF CHANGE SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR HANDS ON SO WE WILL LET YOU KNOW AND ONE THING I FORGOT THE MENTIONS WE ARE GOING TO A GRANTS NEWSLETTER FROM OUR OFFICES WITH HOPEFULLY KIND OF GET EVERYTHING MORE ORGANIZED AND JUST BE THE RECENTLY AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE RECENTLY USDA PUT OUT THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE THAT COMING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S SOME FREEZES THERE SO THAT'S SOMETHING NEW WE TO MAKE SURE OUR DISTRICT KNOWS SO THE GRANTS NEWSLETTER IS ONE OF THOSE WAYS AND WE'LL LET YOU KNOW THOSE TIMEFRAMES AND IF YOU EVER HAVE A QUESTION REACH OUT OUR OFFICE BECAUSE AGAIN WE HAVE CONTACT WITH THESE AGENCIES AND WE CAN ALWAYS ASK BUT THE GRANTS NEWSLETTER HOPEFULLY WHAT IS ORGANIZED AND THANK SO MUCH FOR FIXATING ON THE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU GUYS. ONE COMMENT IF I MAY WE HAVE OFFERED AND ACCEPTED THEY'VE ACCEPTED THE GRANT WRITER POSITION WILL BE ON BOARD ON MAY FOUR SO WAY TO GO.

GOOD. MORGAN I'M CONNECTED WITH ALL SO WE CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

IT SOUNDS BETTER. HOPEFULLY STREAMLINE YOU. JUST LASTLY THE LAST THING IS YOU SENT US A GREAT MANY THREE PAGES OF GRANTS IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP AND LET US KNOW LIKE CHAIRMAN SAYING WHAT IS YOUR TIMEFRAME? WE DON'T WANT TO MISS ANY OF THIS. YOU HAVE TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING WITH THIS.

ALL RIGHT, SIR OR JAKE, THAT YOU'RE GOOD. WE DID WE COVER EVERYTHING? I THINK SO. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING GO. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

[11. UPDATE FROM THE BEAUFORT JASPER HOUSING TRUST - Claude Hicks, Executive Director ]

ALL RIGHT. MOVING IN TO THE NEXT UPDATE FROM THE VIEW FOR JAZZ FOR HOUSING. I BELIEVE MR. HIGGS IS HERE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AND THE ONE YEAR THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH OVER 100 ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS BUT NOT THIS ONE. SO IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

IT WORKS. SO WHEREVER WE GO PEOPLE ASK US WHAT IS THE WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT IS YOUR FOCUS? WHAT IS YOUR MISSION? OUR MISSION IS VERY SIMPLE.

IT IS TO CREATE AND PRESERVE WORKFORCE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO IN OUR FIRST YEAR IS TO WORK WITH DC ON A GRANT THAT THE COUNTY HAD GIVEN THEM TO TRY AND PURCHASE SOME TOWNHOMES IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO RENT THESE TOWNHOMES AT A REASONABLE RATE. 21 UNITS WERE PURCHASED OUTSIDE OF HILTON HEAD IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY.

MR. EDWARDS IF I MAY INTERJECT FOR A MOMENT, I BELIEVE THAT UPDATES WILL BE GIVEN TO US BY CD. IS THAT CORRECT? SO IF YOU HAVE OTHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WELL THIS IS JUST WHAT WE DID. OKAY.

THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DID. YEAH I DIDN'T WANT TO DUPLICATE ANY EFFORTS FOR TIME SO PURCHASE PRICES FOR ME IN 772 381 THEY GOT ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH GRANTS AND OTHER FUNDS TWO UNITS ARE CURRENTLY LEASED BY AC DC TO PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.

17 REMAINING UNITS HAVE LEASES THEM CURRENTLY OUR JOB IN OUR CONTINUING JOB WAS TWOFOLD ONE WAS TO BE THE FISCAL AGENT FOR THOSE FUNDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FUNDS CAME FROM YOU AND THEY WERE USED FOR WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR. AND SECOND IS TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WHICH WE PROVIDE TO MR. MOORE ON HOW THAT PROCESS IS GOING AND TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO. WHY HOUSING MATTERS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IMPACTS, ECONOMIC GROWTH WITHOUT PLACES FOR WORKERS TO LIVE THERE IS NO ECONOMY QUALITY OF LIFE. THERE ARE DOZENS OF STUDIES THAT DIRECT FOR HOUSING CONDITIONS DIRECTLY TO HELP DIRECTLY TO ECONOMIC STABILITY DIRECTLY TO ISSUES AND PURCHASES THAT PEOPLE MAKE ON A DAILY BASIS IF HOUSING COSTS ARE EXTRAORDINARY, THEY HAVE LESS DISPOSABLE INCOME TO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES REGIONAL COLLABORATION THIS IS THE BEST EXAMPLE THAT I HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME OF REGIONAL COLLABORATION THE FACT THAT YOU ALL THIS THAT YOU DID THAT IT IS A SUCCESS WAS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO SENATOR DAVIS GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDS BECAUSE THIS WAS A REGIONAL APPROACH CURRENTLY IN THE UNITED STATES THERE'S 8.2 MILLION UNITS SHORT OF HOUSING ESTIMATED TO BE 10 MILLION UNITS SHORT BY 2035. THERE WERE SOME THAT GO WELL BEYOND THIS BY AT LEAST 20%. WHAT'S THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THE HOUSING SHORTAGE FOR SOUTH CAROLINA OVER 515. $1 BILLION IN LOST ECONOMIC OUTPUT, 2.67 BILLION LESS IN PERSONAL INCOME AND NEARLY 43,000 JOBS NOT GENERATED BECAUSE OF LACK OF ABILITY TO HOUSE WORKERS AND TO HOUSE EMPLOYEES. WE LOOK AT HOUSING AVAILABLE IN BEAUFORT COUNTY.

WE HAVE YET TO REBOUND BACK TO THE BUILDING PERMIT NUMBER THAT WE SAW IN 1993 TO 2000.

WHAT DOES IT COST TO ME COST WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE COST BURDENED IN THE NATIONAL DEBT? IF YOU LOOK ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT THEN YOU SEE THAT 6.3 THAT IS THE NUMBER OF RENTERS IN THE UNITED WHO PAY MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME IN RENT ON AN ON A MONTHLY BASIS IN STATE WE ARE NOT DOING MUCH BETTER THAN THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF COST BURDENED FAMILIES. WE HAVE LOST A LOT OF COSTS FOR AN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PAYING 50 TO 60% OF THEIR INCOME IN RENT OR HOUSING PAYMENT. THIS WAS A SLIDE PROVIDED TO US BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE. THEY THEY LOOK ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO SEE HOW MANY HOUSES IN ANY PARTICULAR AREA WERE ACCESSED BY SOMEONE WHO IS NOT SPENDING MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME. I'M SAD TO YOU THAT FOR THE LAST 21 YEARS THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT QUALIFIED WITHOUT SOMEONE SPENDING MORE THAN 30% IS ZERO.

THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US IN A FOUR AND A EXCUSE ME A FORUM RECENTLY AND I WOULD THINK AND I THINK ALICE WOULD PROBABLY CONCUR. EVERY PERSON IN THERE WAS STUNNED. THERE WAS ABSOLUTE SILENCE BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT SAYS IS AS WE CONTINUE GROW WE ARE CLOSING THE DOORS TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO BE HERE AT THE MOST. WE CANNOT HOUSE THEM. THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY.

THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO RENT. LAST WEEK THE NEW HOUSING AFFORDABILITY INCOME LIMITS CAME OUT FROM HUD. EVERY SINGLE LIMIT ROSE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.

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IF LOOK AT A THREE BEDROOM HOME OR APARTMENT THEY ARE QUESTIONING ABOUT $3,000 WHICH MEANS THAT THAT FAMILY IMMEDIATELY GOES ABOVE 30% OF THEIR INCOME FOR HOUSING.

IF WE LOOK AT THIS AREA, BEAUFORT COUNTY IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE. THOSE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T QUALIFY FOR TAX CREDIT HOUSING BUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T ALSO FOR A MORTGAGE BECAUSE THE HOUSE COSTS TOO MUCH.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE ON THAT AM I PERCENTAGE.

THAT IS A GROWING AREA. WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO DON'T QUALIFY FOR EITHER ONE ARE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE WITH NOWHERE TO LIVE. WHAT IS OUR LOCAL CALL TO ACTION? WANT TO PARTNER YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVEN THAT PARTNERSHIP WORKS ON BASIS ON A COUNTY BASIS ON AN INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITY.

WE WANT TO EXPAND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ACCESS AND REDUCE OUR COSTS WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN OUR OFFICE. WE HAVE TEN THAT HAVE WALKED IN IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS WITH GAPS CREATED BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COSTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND REGULATION AND MUNICIPAL REQUIREMENTS. SO WE WANT TO TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE IN SOME WAY THAT MAKES SENSE. WE WANT TO OVERCOME RESISTANCE AND BUILD PUBLIC SUPPORT.

THERE IS I HAVE DEVELOPED OVER 250 DEALS IN THE LAST 30 YEARS AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A SINGLE COMMUNITY THAT HAS WANTED WORKFORCE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

NOT ONE. THE WAY THAT YOU OVERCOME IT IS BY REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHO IS LIVING THERE. THEY ARE YOUR NURSES, YOUR TEACHERS, YOUR FIREMEN, YOUR POLICEMEN. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THESE APARTMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY COST OVERBURDENED. HOW CAN WE HELP THEM THE MOST? WE ARE GOING TO FACILITATE COOPERATION THROUGH 2025 SOLUTIONS FOR THEM CALLED BLUEPRINT FOR CHANGE.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN SEPTEMBER IS WE'RE GOING TO BRING TOGETHER PRIVATE PUBLIC FOR PROFIT AND NONPROFIT BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS, REGIONAL REPRESENTATION AND GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATION FINANCE REPRESENTATION TO SAY TELL US WHAT ARE THE TOP THREE THINGS YOU THINK WE COULD DO AND WE'LL COME BACK BEFORE THE COUNTY AND SAY HERE'S WHAT THEY SAID CAN WE DO ANY OF THESE? ARE THEY ACHIEVABLE? WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE SUPPORTED US WITHOUT RESERVATION AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, NOW THAT THE THE TAX ACCOMMODATION TAX A PERCENTAGE CAN BE USED, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD COME WHAT THE COUNTY DO WOULD TAKE THAT AS A 15% OF MAXIMUM 15% MAXIMUM. WHAT WOULD WORK WITH THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION? WE WE CERTAINLY HOPE SO BUT WE CERTAINLY HOPE SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO US DIRECTLY WITH THEIR NEEDS.

THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY FOR US TO TO HELP TRY AND FIGURE OUT IF IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO, IF IT QUALIFIES FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA. AS A SCREENING SCREENING BODY OVERCOME IT. SO IN THAT REGARD I'VE ASKED OUR CFO BECAUSE WE DID TALK LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE LAW SETTING ASIDE MAXIMUM 15% STATE AID TAX, 50% LOCALLY TAX WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN 150,000 FROM EACH TIMES TWO YEARS SO THAT 600,000 BUT I I'M CHECKING WITH OUR CFO TO SEE IF WE SET THAT ASIDE.

I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER BUT WE MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO SET ASIDE FOR HOUSING FROM THE COUNCIL. THAT WOULD BE A HUGE HELP ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER IN THIS AREA THERE ARE A LOT OF SMALL DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE STRUGGLED TO GET FINANCING, WHO STRUGGLED TO GET INVESTMENT. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO USE UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS.

MR. HICKS, YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT RESONATED WITH ME. YOU SAID THAT OVERALL DURATION ESSENTIALLY IS CREATING AN ISSUE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAYBE STREAMLINE PROCESS OR LIMIT THAT OVERHEAD? I THINK THAT ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES IS TIME. SO IN SOMETHING SIX MONTHS A DEVELOPER IS NORMALLY ALREADY TAKING OUT A LOAN TO MOVE PRE-DEVELOPMENT COSTS.

THE INTEREST CLOCK ON THAT CONTINUES TO RUN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE AREA TO LOOK AT. CAN WE REDUCE THE TIME BETWEEN AN APPLICATION AND THE TIME

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BUT THE BIG QUESTION THERE IS WHERE YOU PUT SOMETHING THAT'S IN PROXIMITY TO THE HOSPITAL THAT DOESN'T COST YOU A FORTUNE. SO THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS I THINK REGULATORY QUESTIONS ARE THE ONES THAT WE SHOULD WE SHOULD SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT . NO, NO, NO. WELL, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE ,THERE'S ONE GOOD QUESTION. MR. HICKS. THE WAS ESTABLISHED ON A $7 MILLION COMMITMENT FROM SEVERAL AGENCIES AND MUNICIPALITIES IN WHERE WE OWN THAT.

ARE WE STILL ON TARGET TO REACH ANOTHER 7 MILLION OR DO WE HAVE SOME MUNICIPALITIES LIKE COUNTY MAY BE BEHIND IN MAKING THOSE PAYMENTS? SO THAT COMMITMENT WAS MADE OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. RIGHT. THE ISSUE THAT WAS CREATED LAST YEAR WAS WAS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT WAS STRUCTURED.

SO THERE WERE SEVERAL OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE TRUST THAT HELD BACK THERE FUNDS UNTIL THAT PROBLEM GOT RESOLVED. THAT PROBLEM WE HOPE IS RESOLVED NOW AND WE'LL BE SENDING OUT ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET CAUGHT UP AND THEN NEW BUILDINGS START IN JUNE. SO EVERYONE THERE'S NO ONE THAT SAID I MADE A COMMITMENT AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. WHAT THEY SAID IS I WANT THE IDEA TO BE FINISHED AND CHANGE BEFORE WE DO IT. SO THERE ARE ONLY THREE ENTITIES.

JENNIFER CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT HAVE NOT YET PAID. THEY PAID THEIR INITIAL INSTALLMENT BUT THEY DIDN'T PAY THEIR SECOND INSTALLMENT WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE 2024 INSTALLMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

IT'S MY FIRST PICTURE OF YOU FOR RECENTLY APPROVED DOING REHAB.

THEY DID? HOW MUCH DID THEY ALLOCATE FOR THAT? SO THERE WAS AN INITIAL ALLOCATION OF $50,000 TO BE USED WITHIN CITY OF BEAUFORT FOR HOME REPAIR. WE ATTENDED A WORK SESSION WHERE WE WERE ASKED WHAT WE DO.

I AGREED TO TAKE BEFORE OUR BOARD A REQUEST FOR $100,000 TO COME OUT OF OUR STATE ALLOCATION TO MATCH THEIR $150,000 FOR A $250,000 POOL. WE'RE WORKING ON THE APPLICATION AS NOW THERE WILL BE FOUR PEOPLE AT 80% OF OR BELOW.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HIT THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT AND WE'RE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO FIX. WE WANT TO FIX THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PRESENT SAFE AND HEALTHY OR SAFETY AND HEALTH ISSUES. BUT THAT'S WELL ON ITS WAY.

RIGHT. OWNER OCCUPIED. RIGHT.

OWNER OCCUPIED. YEAH. SO WITH OUR TAX MONEY IF WE WERE TO GIVE IT TO THE TRUST WE COULD FIX HOMES LIKE THAT. COULD BECAUSE INSTEAD OF I MEAN, EVERYBODY THINKS OF US JUST BUILDING AND MORE AND MORE.

WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CURRENT STOCK TO SOME DEGREE AND I'M JUST GOING OFF THE RAILS. MR. MOORE BUT WE HAVE ALL THOSE PROPERTIES WE OWN ANY THOSE PROPERTIES WE CAN DONATE OR YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME IMPACT. SO I'LL GET MR. MOORE OFF THE HOOK. I'M MEETING WITH HANK TOMORROW MORNING.

OH. WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THAT LIST TO SEE HOW WE COULD BEST UTILIZE THOSE PROPERTIES INCLUDING THE ONE NEAR THE HOSPITAL.

INCLUDING THE ONE NEAR THE HOSPITAL. YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK, MR. GRANT . THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR NO CONCERNS? OKAY. MR. YATES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. PLEASE LET US KNOW WHEN YOU GET HELP.

[12. UPDATE FROM THE COASTAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION (CCDC) – Claude Hicks, Executive Director ]

MOVING ON TO NUMBER 12 IS THE UPDATE FOR THE COASTAL COMMUNITY CORPORATION ONCE AGAIN HAS MR. HICKS LISTED BUT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A TYPO. MR. MACALLAN, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE SPEAKERS FOR THIS? YEAH, IT'S I'D LIKE TO WELCOME TO COUNCIL THIS EVENING DAVE WETMORE. KEN CAMPBELL AND DWAYNE RANDALL ,DAVE AND KEN OR MEMBERS OF THE COASTAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD. WAYNE IS A PARTNER WITH DAVE BENNETT AND A BUSINESS THAT IS HOUSING IN SOUTH CAROLINA. SO I'M COMPLEMENTING THE PRESENTATION BY MR. HICKS. THESE GENTLEMEN ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF AFFORDABLE AND THEY'RE HERE TODAY TO TELL US ABOUT THE SUCCESS THEY HAD WITH THE MONEY THAT THE COUNTY

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SO WHAT DAVE IS GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION AND KEN CAMPBELL AND DWAYNE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS AS THEY FINISH THIS THIS PRESENTATION.

SO DAVE. THANK YOU, LARRY. MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE I APOLOGIZE I'VE GOTTEN ME SO MY VOICE IS MUCH DEEPER THAN NORMAL BUT I IS VERY ABLY DEMONSTRATED WE HAVE A HOUSING PROBLEM WE'VE HAD THE HOUSING PROBLEM IN BEAUFORT COUNTY FOR I THINK IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A MAJOR ISSUE 18 YEARS AGO NOTHING WAS HAPPENING AND SO A GROUP OF LOCAL BUSINESS PEOPLE SOME OF US ARE RETIRED WE LOOK PRETTY YOUNG BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY RETIRED AND SOME COMMUNITY LEADERS, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

AND SO WE DECIDED THAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE SUPPORT OF THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN OF HILTON AND OTHER TOWNS HERE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY RAISE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS AND GO OUT AND BUY PROPERTIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR AND DEDICATED THEM TO WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR 99 YEARS. NOW THIS WASN'T SOMETHING UNIQUE OR NOVEL.

IT'S BEEN TRIED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, OTHER COMMUNITIES DID THIS.

THEY FAILED TO PRESERVE THEM FOR 99 YEARS THOUGH IN FACT ASPEN DID THIS.

I THINK THEY HAD A 15 YEAR LIMIT ON IT AND AS SOON AS THAT PROPERTIES THE 15 YEARS WAS UP WHOEVER OWNED THE PROPERTIES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THEY WERE OFF THE MARKET.

SO EVERY TIME WHEN WE BUY A PROPERTY IT'S COVENANT IT FOR 99 YEARS AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING COME IT'S GOING TO COVER MY ISSUE THAT'S CERTAINLY FOR SURE.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE CAME TO YOU I THINK WE WERE HERE IN AUGUST BUT I CAN'T MY MEMORY IS NOT THAT GREAT ANYMORE AND WE ASKED YOU FOR $600,000 AND WE SAID WE THINK WE CAN TURN THAT INTO A MULTIPLE OF THAT AND BUY PROPERTIES. AND SO WHAT WE DID WITH THAT WE ACTUALLY WITH YOUR MONEY WE ACTUALLY GENERATED $5.35 MILLION THROUGH ALTRUISTIC INVESTMENTS. WE WENT TO INDIVIDUALS AND SAID WE WILL GIVE YOU A 3% RETURN ON YOUR MONEY IF YOU WILL TRY AND HELP SOLVE THE HOUSING PROBLEM. WE ALSO OFFERED PRIVATE MORTGAGES AT 6% SO THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL HAD $500,000 OR MORE WE WOULD GIVE THEM A PRIVATE MORTGAGE 6%. THAT USED TO SOUND LIKE A GREAT RETURN AND THEN IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE A GREAT RETURN AND NOW PROBABLY TODAY IT SOUNDS A PRETTY GOOD RETURN IT.

THE MARKET REALLY WASN'T GOOD FOR US WHEN WE STARTED DOING THIS BECAUSE MORTGAGE RATES INSTEAD OF BEING 3% WERE 7% AND IT MAKES IT VERY HARD TO DO. WE ALSO WERE SUCCESSFUL IN RAISING MONEY FROM PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS PURE DONATIONS SO WE APPEALED TO PEOPLE THAT HAD OUR RMDS. PEOPLE OF OUR AGE HAVE REQUIRED MINIMUM DISTRIBUTIONS FROM THEIR IRAS. WE MADE AN APPEAL IF YOU IF YOU GIVE THOSE MONEYS TO CHARITY THAT MONEY IS NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR TAXABLE INCOME IN THAT YEAR IT'S A WIN WIN.

WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF THE LOWCOUNTRY WHICH SUPPORTED US WITH AN ALTRUISTIC INVESTMENT. SO BETWEEN $600,000 THAT BEAUFORT COUNTY GAVE US IN THE $600,000 THAT HILTON THAT GAVE US WE GENERATE IT OVER TEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WE BOUGHT 17 UNITS ON THE ISLAND. WE OWNED 23 OUT OF THE ISLAND IN BEAUFORT COUNTY EXCUSE ME AND INCORPORATED BEAUFORT COUNTY. SO WE ALSO WE WANT PEOPLE TO BUY THESE UNITS SO WE HAVE A PHANTOM EQUITY PLAN. IF YOU CONTRIBUTE A PORTION OF YOUR RENT FOR FIVE YEARS WE'LL GO INTO A PHANTOM EQUITY PLAN.

THAT MONEY CAN BE USED TO PURCHASE EITHER YOUR UNIT OR ONE OF OUR OTHER UNITS IF IT'S AVAILABLE. I NEED WATER. THERE'S HERE'S ONE RIGHT HERE.

I'M SORRY. SORRY. BALANCE SEEMS TO SHOW FROM THE STANDPOINT WE DID EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO. WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THIS MONEY. WE MATCH IT WITH PRIVATE FUNDS AND WE PUT THE MONEY TO WORK RIGHT AWAY. WE EVENTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO GET INTO BUSINESS WE'RE BUYING

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RAISING MONEY IS NOT EASY BUT PEOPLE DO REALIZE HOUSING IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM AND THAT IT AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIFE AND POSSIBLY THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.

IF WE DON'T HAVE THE WORKERS THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO TAKE CARE OF US.

I'M TALKING ABOUT HOSPITAL. WE'RE TALKING NURSES, FIREMEN, TEACHERS.

THAT DOES AFFECT YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE IN HILTON HEAD IN THEY CANNOT HIRE A NURSE UNLESS THEIR MOTHER OR FATHER OR GRANDPARENTS LIVE ON THE ISLAND. THEY CAN'T DO THAT EVEN. DON'T EVEN TRY.

AND SO THE SAME PROBLEM EXISTS. IT'S A BAD PROBLEM AND PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THIS BUT YOU HAVE TO GET THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE WILLING TO INVEST THEIR FUNDS BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE THIS WORK IS YOU HAVE TO GET LOW INTEREST FUNDS OR DONATIONS.

OTHERWISE WE CAN'T BRING THE RENTS DOWN LOW ENOUGH THE PEOPLE.

YOU SAW THAT THERE'S NOBODY IN THE LAST 30 YEARS THAT CAN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OVERALL SO IT'S A DIFFICULT PROBLEM SO WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WE'RE CASH FLOW AND WE PAID ALL WE ALL OF OUR OBLIGATIONS THIS YEAR. WE'RE BUILDING EQUITY PRESUMABLY PROPERTY VALUES ARE INCREASING. THEY MAY NOT BE NOW BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO GET INTO THE WHERE WE COULD POTENTIALLY PARTNER WITH A DEVELOPMENT AND THAT IT AND RIGHT NOW WHO IS THERE NOT ONLY A LOCAL DEVELOPER THEY ARE INVOLVED ACROSS THE COUNTRY A RECOGNIZED DEVELOPER OF WORKFORCE HOUSING TO US WITH A PROPOSAL FOR THE DEVELOPMENT A PROJECT CALLED LORAL BAY WHICH I THINK YOU'VE GOTTEN IT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE THE MARINE AIR FORCE BASE AND THEY OWN THE PROPERTY ALREADY AND WERE ATTEMPTING TO QUALIFY FOR A PROGRAM CALLED THE SMALL RENTAL DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A STATE PROGRAM AND IN ORDER TO SUCCESSFULLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS PROGRAM IT HELPS TO HAVE A NONPROFIT ASSOCIATED WITH WE'RE A 523 CORPORATION AND HELPS TO HAVE 10% LOCAL FUNDING SO IN ORDER TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS PROGRAM AND WE'VE ALREADY MET THE THE FIRST QUALIFICATION NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FOR THE FINAL QUALIFICATION AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME OF THE MONEY FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.

WE HAVE NOT BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN ACQUIRING ANY FUNDS FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY.

THE HISTORY AND FACT WELL I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON IT BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WE ARE NOT.

MOST OF THE MONEY GOES ELSEWHERE PROBABLY BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE REPRESENTATION. WE DON'T HAVE LOBBYISTS. WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE WORKING FOR US. I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE ANY LOBBYISTS SO IT'S A 13.5 ACRE PROJECT. THE FIRST PHASE WOULD RESULT IN THE DEVELOPMENT 39 UNITS.

THAT'S APPROXIMATELY THE $12 MILLION PROJECT OF ROUGHLY 300,000 APIECE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS, WE AVERAGE ABOUT 250,000 FOR THE UNITS THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT PURCHASED FAR.

THOSE ARE ALL OLD UNITS. SOME OF THEM ARE 40 YEARS OLD. SOME OF THEM ARE OLDER THAN THAT NOW WE UPGRADE THEM AND ALL BUT THEY'RE STILL NOT GOING TO COMPARABLE TO WHAT THIS IS THERE'S A LOT OF CREDIT GIVEN IN THE SCORING FOR THIS PROGRAM STATEWIDE BASIS.

IF YOU HAVE 10% LOCAL PARTICIPATION AND AS A RESULT OF THAT IT'S A $12 MILLION PROJECT WE'RE ASKING FOR A MILLION TO AND THAT GIVES A MUCH BETTER CHANCE OF GAINING SUPPORT FROM THIS PROGRAM. AND WE ALSO NEED $45,000 TO FUND THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT COSTS . SO YOU MIGHT ASK ME WHY ARE YOU GUYS ASKING FOR MONEY? WELL, AS SOON AS WE ACQUIRE FUNDS ENOUGH FUNDS TO ACQUIRE A UNIT, WE BUY IT.

WE HAVE NO WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY CASH FUNDS AVAILABLE. YOU YOU KNOW, WE JUST KEEP GENERATING WE TRY AND RAISE MONEY AND THEN WE GO OUT AND BUY IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE TOLD YOU WE WERE GOING TO DO AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

THIS WOULD GIVE US OPPORTUNITY TO PUT 39 UNITS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING NORTH OF THE BROAD AND

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SO THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR ADDITION TO WHAT IS IT BEAUFORT COUNTY.

DUANE IS PARTNER IN THE PROJECT AND HE'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'LL BE GLAD TO TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT D.C. OR IF I RUN OUT KEN COULD TALK TO YOU BUT WE DID EXACTLY WHAT WE TOLD YOU WE WERE GOING TO DO AND WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS IN 40 UNITS.

WE'D LOVE TO HEAR MORE. I HOPE WE CAN. WE'D LIKE TO DO 50 A YEAR.

IF WE COULD DO THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OVER TEN YEARS IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT. THIS IS A PROJECT COULD CAN MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DENT AND IT'S IT'S A VERY IT'S A QUICKER PROJECT. DOING HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET IF THIS COMES TO FRUITION? YEAH, THE APPLICATIONS FOR THIS FINANCING THROUGH THE SMALL RENTAL DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WHICH IS DONE THROUGH SOUTH CAROLINA STATE HOUSING AUTHORITY APPLICATIONS ARE DUE IN JUNE AND THEN THROUGH A BIT OF A PROCESS THE BASICALLY THE AWARDS WOULD BE MADE SOMETIME TO MID NEXT YEAR AND THEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD START RIGHT AFTER THAT. SO FIGURE 12 MONTHS FOR CONSTRUCTION SO YOU COULD YOU COULD BE AVAILABLE BY YEAH EARLY TO MID 2027.

DAVE CAN I GET JUST A CLARIFICATION THAT GENTLEMAN WITH REGARD TO THE ASK YOU THE YOU HAVE A $12 MILLION PROJECT YOU REALLY NEED SHOW A COMMITMENT FROM A LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR 10% BUT WHEN YOU GET THAT 10% YOU NEED YOU NEED 45,000 FOR DUE DILIGENCE THEN YOU NEED A $1.2 MILLION COMMITMENT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE MONEY BY JUNE IT BE NEXT YEAR BUT WHEN YOU GET THAT COMMITMENT THEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO FILE FOR A GRANT FROM STATE SO THAT ALL OF THE MONEY THAT YOU SPEND IS 12 MILLION WILL BE REIMBURSED TO USE. YOU CAN START THE NEXT PART OF THE PROJECT WITH THE MONEY COMING FROM THE STATE IS THAT CORRECT. MY BASED ON THAT THE WAY THE S&P PROGRAM WORKS THAT MILLION TO WOULD BE A IT WOULD BE A PERMANENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT SO THERE MAY BE OTHER SOURCES THAT CDCR OR SOMEONE ELSE MAY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT COULD EFFECTIVELY THAT BUT THE MILLION TO THAT WOULD BE COMMITTED AND REIMBURSED TO US REIMBURSED IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO APPLY FOR A GRANT TO REIMBURSE FOR THE ENTIRE COST OF THE PROJECT SO YOU CAN START THE NEXT PORTION OF THE PROJECT .

IT'S POSSIBLE I'M PERSONALLY NOT FAMILIAR THAT YEAH SORRY DAVE ALAN WOLF ME THAT THE LOCAL COMMITMENT OF FUNDS THAT GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO FILE THE APPLICATION FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF THE TOTAL SO THAT TOTAL COST CAN THEN BE USED TO FUND THE NEXT.

SO THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO I'M THE VICE CHAIRMAN. ALAN WOLF IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE GROUP. HE CANNOT BE HERE BECAUSE THE HERITAGE THAT THEY WORK ON THE HERITAGE STUFF BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROGRAM. SO WHEN I WALKED IN AND ASKED I JUST CONFIRMED THAT WITH HIM AND HE HAD THE LOOK ON HIS FACE THAT SAID I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT SO I'LL BRING IT UP SO EARLY. SO I IT WAS THE WAY THE PROGRAM WAS SOLD TO US SO I MEAN IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THAT'S TRUE IT SEEMS A LITTLE ILLOGICAL TO ME.

I MEAN SOMEBODY JUST DOESN'T NORMALLY GIVE YOU MONEY FOR THEIR SAKE.

I MEAN YOU MIGHT I MEAN I THINK THE PROJECT STANDS ON ITS OWN. I MEAN IF YOU WERE TO IF YOU WERE TO GRANT 1,000,002 THAT'S 40 UNITS THAT'S THAT THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL.

NOW I'M TO I'M GOING TO PURSUE THIS BUT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GO UNDER THAT I DIDN'T GET THE LOOK THAT I EXPECTED IN WE WEREN'T ABLE TO CONFIRM IT WITH DAVID SO I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. BUT THE PROJECT STANDS ON ITS OWN.

THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. I BELIEVE IT'S A CHANCE TO PUT IN IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IF WE DON'T DO PHASE ONE WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO PHASE TWO. SO MAYBE I CAN PHRASE IT A DIFFERENT WAY. WE SEEM TO ME THAT WE MAKE APPLICATION FOR REIMBURSEMENT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GOVERNMENT LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITMENT FOR THAT MONEY, YOU CAN'T EVEN FILE THE APPLICATION. WE CAN FILE IT BUT WE'D LOSE THERE'S A THERE'S A SCORING MECHANISM AND IF YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT THEN YOU GET DOWNGRADED AND LAST YEAR I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICATIONS ONLY THREE WERE APPROVED AND BY THE ENTIRE PROGRAM SO THE ONLY THREE OR THERE'S LOTS OF MONEY THERE THAT THE MILLION TO JUST MAKES IT THE APPLICATION FOR THE PROJECT FAR MORE COMPETITIVE AND A MUCH GREATER LIKELIHOOD OF IT BEING SUCCESSFUL AT RECEIVING THE BALANCE OF THE FUNDING THROUGH THIS S&P PROGRAM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

BEFORE YOU GO TO I WANT TO SAY WE GOT 20 MINUTES BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING AND WE STILL HAVE

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I WANT TO MAKE SURE DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO RIGHT. BUT I WANT TO HAVE YOU A QUESTION I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO THROUGH CLAUDIA THE BEAUFORT TRUST FUND. I LOVE THE THIS IS TAX SEASON YOU SHOULD BE PUTTING OUT THERE EVERYBODY SHOVELING THERE ARE R&D TO THE CHARITY I MEAN I TELL I DO TAXES THERE AND WE ALWAYS SAY YOU CAN GIVE YOUR ARMS TO THE CHURCH YOU CAN GIVE IT TO THIS.

THIS WOULD BE THE TIME FOR YOU TO BRING IT. SO THAT'S A GREAT THING TO DO AND I'M GLAD YOU DID IT AND YOU'RE SEEING THE 1.2 MILLION WHENEVER YOU GET THROUGH THE TRUST FUND WOULD NOT BE REIMBURSABLE TO THE COUNTY. NO, IT WOULDN'T COME TO THE COUNTY IN ANY WAY. IT WOULD BE AN INVESTMENT GOT IT OR A GRANT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THE OTHER QUESTION ARE THERE ANY OF THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO CUT THE SHORTAGE ONE MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING AS GOOD ON THERE AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION I KNOW WE CAN KEEP GOING ON ABOUT IT BUT SO THE NEXT SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO GO BACK TO FINANCE WITH THE PROPOSED NO HE'S GOT TO GO THROUGH THE HOUSING TRUST. THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH I THINK OUR COUNTY COUNCIL PRESENTATION AND FINANCE COMMITTEE WERE PROBABLY THE BEST PLACE TO DO IT ESPECIALLY WHEN HIS ASKING HAS A MONETARY AMOUNT ATTACHED TO IT LIKE THAT . YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YEAH, THANK YOU. OH, AND LIKE I SAID, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF SHORT ON THAT. LET'S GET TO THE CLASS PRESENTATION.

[13. PRESENTATION ON UNITED WAY'S 211 SYSTEM - Dale Douthat, President & CEO of United Way of The Lowcountry ]

SHARING THIS ITEM 13 IS A PRESENTATION ON THE UNITED WAY'S 2.1 SYSTEM DEALS HERE THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE UNITED WAY OF THE LOW COUNTRY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. DO YOU MIND IF I HAD THESE OUT? YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THINKING 60 YEARS THAT YOU SERVED HERE. I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO SAY OVER 40 YOU KNOW NONE OF US ARE FREE SO I'D WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STANDING HERE TO GIVE YOU THE PACKET ON UNITED IT'S A GENERAL PACKET THE STUFF ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THAT IS WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO. THE STUFF ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE FOLDER IS WHAT WE DO WHAT WE'RE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE FOLDER. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THIS LITTLE PACKET THE REST OF IT YOU CAN READ ON YOUR OWN BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT SAYS AND WHAT MR. HICKS AND MR. WETMORE SAID AND WHAT YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW IS IT'S EXPENSIVE TO LIVE HERE IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY. 34% OF HOUSEHOLDS IN BEAUFORT COUNTY CANNOT LIVE HERE WITHOUT SOME FORM OF ASSISTANCE TO ONE HELPS PEOPLE FIND THAT ASSISTANCE 211 IS A PHONE NUMBER THAT PEOPLE CAN REMEMBER MUCH LIKE 911 THAT THEY CAN CALL AND THEY CAN FIND THE ASSISTANCE THEY NEED WHETHER IT'S RENT, CHILD CARE ASSISTANCE, FOOD, WHATNOT. THIS IS AN ONGOING THAT OPERATES THREE 6524 SEVEN.

EVEN IN A DISASTER WHEN HIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STATE WHICH IS WHERE OUR CALL CENTER ACTUALLY IS 211 WAS DOWN FOR 20 MINUTES BECAUSE OUR CALLS GOT PICKED UP BY NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA WITHIN 20 MINUTES DURING THE LEAN 17,000 PEOPLE WERE HELPED THROUGH THE 211 SYSTEM. IT'S A VERY CRITICAL SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AGAIN, 34% OF HOUSEHOLDS CANNOT LIVE HERE WITHOUT SOME FORM OF ASSISTANCE AS 34% OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT COULD UTILIZE THE SYSTEM IF NEEDED IN DISASTER THAT NUMBER GOES THROUGH THE ROOF. RIGHT.

BECAUSE EVERY EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO FIND INFORMATION THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND RESOURCES. FOR MANY YEARS THIS SERVICE HAS BEEN PAID FOR BY THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. THIS WAS RECENTLY THAT FUNDING WAS RECENTLY PULLED FROM US AND OUR UNITED WAY DOES NOT HAVE IT IN BUDGET TO CARRY THE BURDEN THAT IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT $10,626 PER YEAR CURRENTLY I SAY CURRENTLY BECAUSE THE YEARS OF CALL VOLUME INCREASES THE COST IS GOING TO INCREASE. CURRENTLY THAT COST IS $10,626. WE COULD REALLY USE YOUR HELP IN COVERING THE COST OF THAT SERVICE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT

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YEAH IT THE FUNDING ENDED IN OCTOBER OKAY AND OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTS APRIL ONE.

OKAY. AND HOW LONG IS IT COUNT EVEN FUNDING IT TO MY KNOWLEDGE SINCE THOUSAND AND EIGHT A LONG TIME SINCE 2008 AND I GOT HEADS UP AND WE GOT NO EXPLANATION.

SO IT WAS KIND OF A GUT PUNCH. OKAY. SO IS THIS AN ANNUAL AMOUNT? 10,626 YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND I KNOW ONCE AGAIN THIS IS IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE BUT I WANTED EVERYONE TO BE AWARE OF THAT SERVICE, BE AWARE THAT THE FUNDING WAS PULLED FROM IT. I BELIEVE KNOW I TALKED TO A PINKY OR CFO.

I THINK SHE'S LOOKING INTO POSSIBLE ACCOUNTS TO MAYBE COVER THAT.

YEAH. DOES THIS NEED ANOTHER JUST PRESENTATION FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT INTO A FINANCE COMMITTEE ON THIS OR IS THIS BELOW A THRESHOLD CAN BE HANDLED INTERNALLY IF WE WANT TO DO THIS IT'LL BE PART OF THE YEAH WE RECOMMENDED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE REQUEST. OKAY. ON A WEDNESDAY SO JUST FOR DALE SAKE WOULD MEAN FUNDING WOULD COME IN JULY BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT THE NEXT BUDGET FOR EVERYTHING ON THIS ONE JUST SO YOU COULD TAKE WITH THAT. GOT IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

THANK HIS BUDGET RUNS APRIL HE SAID ALL IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE SAYING NON THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 347 A

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.